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1 | ATL_int_01 | 1.0768 | Okay. | 1.6027 |
3 | | 2.0306 | S- uh, /RD-NAME-3/ here, | 3.7733 |
5 | | 4.1342 | and I'm the interviewer, and I'm- well, | 6.6193 |
7 | | 6.8396 | I'm with, um, | 7.8193 |
9 | | 8.9020 | Mr. /RD-NAME-1/. Um, | 10.2167 |
11 | | 10.5570 | /RD-NAME-1/ can you give us | 11.6552 |
13 | | 11.8206 | your full name? | 12.6760 |
14 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 13.0923 | Uh, /RD-NAME-4/. | 14.3864 |
15 | ATL_int_01 | 14.7164 | /RD-NAME-4/, and | 16.0775 |
17 | | 16.2176 | we are now about to conduct this | 18.2430 |
19 | | 18.4028 | somewhat interview conversational piece for, | 21.1391 |
21 | | 22.1548 | uh, | 22.7168 |
23 | | 23.1860 | a good bit of m- | 23.9697 |
25 | | 24.1553 | time. | 24.6451 |
27 | | 24.9428 | So | 25.4877 |
29 | | 25.5564 | without further ado let's, um, | 27.1883 |
31 | | 27.2510 | get all the way into it. | 28.5106 |
33 | | 29.6552 | Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ | 30.5097 |
35 | | 30.8087 | /RD-NAME-1/ | 31.3037 |
37 | | 32.0564 | don't you got a stage name, | 33.3506 |
39 | | 33.4317 | um, | 33.9589 |
40 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 34.0002 | Yeah, DJ /RD-NAME-4/. You already know what it is, man. [DJ to] the world, taking over the world. | 38.7112 |
41 | ATL_int_01 | 36.8396 | [okay.] | 37.2934 |
42 | | 39.0927 | World take over DJ. Okay. | 41.2237 |
44 | | 41.3440 | Nah, that's- that's real real cool, | 43.0665 |
46 | | 43.2676 | you know. | 43.7213 |
48 | | 44.1441 | Um, I'm | 44.9278 |
50 | | 45.1959 | probably gonna be segueing to a bunch of different stuff if that's cool with you. | 48.8809 |
51 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 49.2470 | Yeah, that's fine. | 49.9183 |
52 | ATL_int_01 | 50.0667 | Okay, cool, cool. So, um, | 51.7372 |
54 | | 54.0739 | what's your race or nationality? What do you identify as? | 57.1918 |
55 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 57.3671 | Um, most days I'm a Mexican, but- [uh], | 59.7646 |
56 | ATL_int_01 | 59.5068 | [<laugh>] | 60.6256 |
57 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 59.8526 | [<laugh>] | 60.1306 |
59 | | 60.5225 | [no], I'm a African American. | 61.9854 |
60 | ATL_int_01 | 62.0885 | Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. And, um, | 64.8211 |
62 | | 65.7491 | what's your age? | 66.6668 |
63 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 67.0381 | Twenty-seven years old. | 68.7897 |
64 | ATL_int_01 | 68.9804 | Cool, cool, cool. | 70.1147 |
66 | | 70.3828 | Um, | 71.1923 |
68 | | 72.0997 | and | 72.7390 |
70 | | 73.7018 | where were you born? | 74.4442 |
71 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 74.9753 | Decatur, GA. | 76.1560 |
72 | ATL_int_01 | 76.5994 | Decatur, GA. [Okay.] | 78.5586 |
73 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 78.0069 | [Yes, sir.] | 78.7957 |
74 | ATL_int_01 | 79.0484 | So, um, | 80.0266 |
76 | | 80.5989 | is it cool to assume that you been living in Georgia | 83.1510 |
78 | | 83.2851 | predominantly | 84.1407 |
80 | | 84.2217 | your whole life? | 84.9556 |
81 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 85.1670 | I have. | 85.9132 |
82 | ATL_int_01 | 86.2792 | Great, great, great. Okay, so, um, | 88.9087 |
84 | | 91.0793 | growing up in Georgia, | 92.8773 |
86 | | 93.3413 | you know, | 93.8501 |
88 | | 93.9824 | let's start with maybe | 95.7440 |
90 | | 96.7957 | middle school or something like that. What was, um, | 99.6807 |
92 | | 99.7597 | growing up in middle school in Decatur, Georgia or wherever | 103.1257 |
94 | | 103.2804 | you was in Georgia in particular? | 104.9546 |
95 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 106.0528 | How was it growing up in middle school? | 107.7387 |
96 | ATL_int_01 | 107.7312 | Yeah, what school you went to? | 108.8009 |
97 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 109.0430 | Um, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School. | 110.8618 |
98 | ATL_int_01 | 110.9851 | [Okay.] | 111.4254 |
99 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 111.0679 | [U- um], | 111.9220 |
100 | | 112.9757 | uh, I would say, you know, life in there was- was cool as a African American male. Um, | 117.8621 |
102 | | 118.3983 | I'd say it was more not tailored towards, uh, I wish education just in school-wise would've been a little more, | 125.0221 |
104 | | 125.5016 | um, I guess hands on. We would've learned a lot of more. | 128.5783 |
106 | | 128.9134 | Um, we- | 129.5395 |
108 | | 129.6854 | I wouldn't say- | 130.6664 |
110 | | 131.3830 | I definitely wouldn't say we were passed along, but we could've been, uh, | 134.7587 |
112 | | 135.4599 | you know, ha- | 136.2178 |
114 | | 136.6922 | <exhale> what is the words? We could've been | 138.7442 |
116 | | 139.0638 | tightened down on a little more, but I think we still got good knowledge and understanding. | 143.3366 |
118 | | 143.5790 | Um, a lot of real world situations came in at the time. | 147.2382 |
120 | | 147.5527 | Um, | 148.2281 |
122 | | 148.9448 | just going to the middle school that I went to, /and it/ made people kind of look at things in life differently. | 153.7535 |
124 | | 154.2436 | Um, | 154.8004 |
126 | | 155.2645 | but it w- it was- you know, we weren't- it wasn't the hood, but it was majority African Americans. | 160.6200 |
128 | | 160.8932 | Um, so it was like the a- it was like the middle class. The middle class at that point in time was- | 165.4909 |
130 | | 165.8105 | I'd say was still around in the early two thousands. Um, now it's kind of fading to more | 170.6762 |
132 | | 171.0732 | either poverty or rich. Um, I'd say that was probably the last days of the middle class. So, | 175.6207 |
134 | | 176.0421 | um, | 176.6579 |
136 | | 176.7603 | m- like I said, it was just kind of being a middle class African American, | 180.4297 |
138 | | 180.6978 | you know, you had a lot of people who went e- either way, either they went up to the upper class or they went to the lower class. | 186.2544 |
139 | ATL_int_01 | 186.5895 | Mm. | 186.9710 |
141 | | 187.5265 | That's- that's very very interesting cause | 189.7950 |
143 | | 190.4756 | I be feeling that way sometimes personally | 192.7957 |
145 | | 193.2546 | just from my life like, dang, maybe like | 195.2795 |
147 | | 195.8208 | almost ten, twenty years ago, things looked totally different than the way they look kind of right now. | 201.4238 |
149 | | 202.1108 | [Um], | 202.7764 |
150 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 202.1507 | [Yeah, that quick.] Correct. | 203.3058 |
151 | ATL_int_01 | 204.4039 | and I didn't know that that's how | 205.9034 |
153 | | 206.2792 | it was rocking over in /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle. | 208.6303 |
155 | | 209.0943 | M- so | 209.7130 |
157 | | 209.9760 | was that school kind of, um, | 211.6052 |
159 | | 212.1710 | fairly new at that time? | 213.9239 |
160 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 214.1302 | [Oh, no.] | 214.6767 |
161 | ATL_int_01 | 214.2642 | [Or has that] al- always been [around?] | 216.0378 |
162 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 215.9141 | [Nah], that school was very old. Uh, that sc- /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School's been up, I know it, probably since like the sixties at least, | 222.0945 |
163 | ATL_int_01 | 222.3163 | [Wow.] | 223.0381 |
164 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 222.4400 | [maybe the seventies.] So yeah, that school is very old. Um, | 225.5115 |
165 | ATL_int_01 | 225.6198 | Mm-hm. | 226.1044 |
166 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 226.7231 | Yeah, definitely was a aged school. | 228.4812 |
167 | ATL_int_01 | 228.8525 | Okay, but, um, you left | 230.5834 |
169 | | 231.2331 | old ass /RD-SCHOOL-3/ School to end up going into like | 234.3743 |
171 | | 234.4673 | new facility /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School? | 237.3671 |
172 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 237.8157 | Um, well I w- originally /went in to/ /RD-SCHOOL-2/ because /RD-SCHOOL-3/ wasn't built at the time. | 241.9802 |
173 | ATL_int_01 | 242.1658 | [Mm-hm.] | 242.5370 |
174 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 242.4030 | [Um], so when I did go into high school, yes, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School. | 245.8213 |
175 | | 246.1255 | Um, it was a brand new facility. I would say, um, | 249.0681 |
177 | | 249.2898 | it definitely was a new vibe. Uh, we had a- we had a interesting principal when I first started, | 253.8218 |
179 | | 254.0936 | a man by the name of Dr. /RD-NAME-2/. | 255.9188 |
181 | | 256.3416 | Um, | 257.0290 |
183 | | 257.1024 | definitely he- he kind of | 259.1567 |
185 | | 260.0293 | embodied what now I wish that more of- of the b- | 263.3573 |
187 | | 263.8780 | the educators would have kind of | 266.2895 |
189 | | 266.7329 | went towards. Um, I do understand, you know, he was very tough, very, uh, strict in what he did. | 272.1452 |
191 | | 272.5061 | But now just being a- a eld- not a elderly man cause I'm definitely not elderly, but being a older man, I kind of see where his message was going at the time, | 280.0838 |
193 | | 280.4189 | kind of just tried to get our heads on straight. Um, we did a lot of different things that most schools in DeKalb County didn't do. | 285.7590 |
195 | | 286.1250 | Um, it was because of the fact that I do see now too as well, um, when I first started /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School, | 291.5373 |
197 | | 291.9291 | it was actually, um, only ninth and tenth graders there. | 294.3523 |
199 | | 294.7442 | So he was able to handle a less amount of kids. He didn't have the typical | 299.6563 |
201 | | 300.1770 | a thousand, | 301.5072 |
203 | | 301.6708 | fifteen hundred high school in DeKalb County. He maybe only had | 305.3006 |
205 | | 305.7182 | three to four hundred kids that he could control. | 308.0266 |
207 | | 308.3720 | Um, and it kind of- it started off as good because the majority of the people that I know that did last, | 313.4248 |
209 | | 313.7550 | um, that started from the beginning, you know, are doing something with their selves. | 316.9413 |
211 | | 317.3177 | But then, you know, it just kind of got- | 319.4972 |
213 | | 320.1726 | that whole thing seemed to get- kind of got washed by the wayside, and it just kind of turned into the area | 324.6516 |
215 | | 324.9610 | more than just the greatness of the school. | 326.5490 |
216 | ATL_int_01 | 327.1213 | Wow, okay. | 328.5278 |
218 | | 328.6429 | See, um, | 329.4105 |
220 | | 329.9711 | it's been a while since I personally been | 331.8325 |
222 | | 331.9243 | back to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, almost probably about ten years now. | 334.7093 |
224 | | 335.1636 | [So] | 335.5114 |
225 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 335.3723 | [Mm.] | 335.6117 |
226 | ATL_int_01 | 336.0278 | I w- I would defer to you f- as far /as/ knowing, | 338.7243 |
228 | | 338.9099 | you know, how the kids and that culture | 340.9413 |
230 | | 341.4362 | is over there right about now. | 343.3528 |
231 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 343.9356 | Um, yeah. I actually- because I DJ as well, um, I work actually with, uh, one of the | 348.5227 |
233 | | 348.6826 | g- uh, she was a previous coach over there, Coach /RD-NAME-2/. | 351.5080 |
235 | | 351.8379 | Um, I actually DJ a lot of the, uh, | 354.0381 |
237 | | 354.6723 | talent shows, and, um, I've actually done some things for the basketball team, | 358.4102 |
239 | | 358.8536 | um, | 359.5084 |
241 | | 359.8023 | music-wise. So I do still go up there occasionally. I haven't been up there maybe in about a year or two now, | 364.6474 |
243 | | 364.9104 | um, but just kind of keeping my ear to the streets. Um, I have friends | 368.2603 |
245 | | 368.5387 | who have kids who are, | 370.3329 |
247 | | 370.6165 | um, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School, and, you know, they just kind of said the culture's just completely different | 375.6626 |
249 | | 376.0184 | from- | 376.4300 |
251 | | 376.5393 | they didn't- they don't- but of course they wasn't there to know what our culture was. But them telling me the culture of what it is now, | 382.1885 |
253 | | 382.5598 | it's completely different from how it was when I was in school. | 385.4154 |
254 | ATL_int_01 | 385.8227 | Mm. | 386.1424 |
256 | | 386.3538 | Okay. | 386.8848 |
258 | | 387.4918 | Just to, um, segue away from the school system for a second, | 391.3020 |
260 | | 391.7351 | um, | 392.4775 |
262 | | 393.5588 | tell me a little bit | 394.8323 |
264 | | 395.6521 | about | 396.1574 |
266 | | 396.4203 | your parents. Like where were they born and raised? | 398.5895 |
267 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 398.8937 | Uh, my mother was born in Cleveland. My dad was born in | 402.4152 |
269 | | 402.7709 | Detroit. Um, both of them met in Cleveland, | 405.2753 |
271 | | 405.6826 | and they moved down to Atlanta. | 407.2603 |
272 | ATL_int_01 | 407.7655 | Okay, that's what I'm talking about. So | 409.8949 |
274 | | 410.5548 | they was up in there living the good life up in Cleveland and Detroit, | 414.5801 |
276 | | 415.3535 | and they came down to old | 417.1618 |
278 | | 417.9558 | Georgia. | 418.6467 |
279 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 418.9368 | [ATL.] | 419.6118 |
280 | ATL_int_01 | 418.9834 | [Or-] | 419.1993 |
281 | | 419.6472 | or was the good life- | 420.7708 |
283 | | 420.8562 | was it that- that good of a life up in Cleveland and | 423.4570 |
285 | | 423.5694 | Detroit cause I know it's- it's kind of different | 425.8635 |
287 | | 426.3688 | all around. | 427.0803 |
288 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 427.1713 | [Um], | 427.6935 |
289 | ATL_int_01 | 427.2257 | [Did you b-] | 427.7309 |
290 | | 427.8070 | did you ever ask about that? | 429.1825 |
291 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 429.3938 | I mean, I've asked. My parents are divorced, so of course I can't ask questions that- for them to be together so much. | 435.1006 |
292 | ATL_int_01 | 435.1223 | Mm-hm. | 435.4803 |
293 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 435.6001 | Um, but from what I was told, I mean, Cleveland is just very cold. | 439.2195 |
295 | | 439.4979 | [Um, it did] not have a lot of progressing things going on at the time. | 443.4031 |
296 | ATL_int_01 | 439.6886 | [<laugh>] | 440.1166 |
297 | | 443.4361 | Mm. | 443.6434 |
298 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 443.7012 | Um, I think they came down in like the late eighties, mid eighties, | 448.4044 |
300 | | 448.8684 | maybe- maybe even early seventies, probably like | 451.7144 |
302 | | 452.1939 | in the eighties some time, /though/. | 453.5382 |
304 | | 454.0796 | Um, | 454.7756 |
306 | | 455.3025 | and when they came down, Atlanta, Georgia was jumping. Um, Freaknik was just about to get started, you [know, the kind of-] | 461.1881 |
307 | ATL_int_01 | 460.5266 | [/Ay/, okay.] | 461.4665 |
308 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 461.5387 | the- the times of Atlanta. It was nice and hot. The prices of living was cheaper. | 466.0486 |
310 | | 466.3992 | Um, there were more jobs here. So that's kind of really w- it w- it- what it really was. | 470.5600 |
312 | | 470.8745 | Um, they kind of get n- wanted to get away from their family members, so | 474.0027 |
313 | ATL_int_01 | 474.2450 | [Mm-hm.] | 474.5647 |
314 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 474.4100 | [they started] something brand new. | 475.7144 |
315 | ATL_int_01 | 476.1785 | Ah, digging that. | 477.2495 |
317 | | 477.3250 | So, um, | 478.0950 |
319 | | 478.5127 | you got any plans on | 479.9357 |
321 | | 480.1007 | what you gonna do with your | 481.3998 |
323 | | 481.4794 | family life as far as | 482.9610 |
325 | | 483.0236 | staying in the area or branching out | 485.1262 |
327 | | 485.2448 | from here? | 485.6624 |
328 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 485.7347 | Um, I would definitely say that I'm looking into branching out. Um, I'm currently a | 489.8579 |
330 | | 490.2033 | single man, so I'm not | 491.8686 |
331 | ATL_int_01 | 491.9511 | [<laugh>] | 492.3430 |
332 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 492.1935 | [worried] a- so much about family life at the moment. | 494.6270 |
333 | | 494.8436 | Um, when that situation does come, um, of course I don't think I would definitely want them in this area. | 499.5752 |
335 | | 499.9722 | Uh, definitely the- the- the- the | 501.3167 |
338 | | 502.5952 | East Atlanta area has definitely become a | 505.0751 |
340 | | 505.2762 | not so great area to raise a child. | 507.7341 |
341 | ATL_int_01 | 508.1622 | [Mm.] | 508.4559 |
342 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 508.2075 | [Um], so I would say raising a child-wise, I'd definitely go | 511.6526 |
343 | | 512.0253 | to another area. But, um, at that moment I don't have those issu- I don't have those type thoughts. So, | 517.0957 |
344 | ATL_int_01 | 517.2813 | [Mm.] | 517.6526 |
345 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 517.5185 | [um], family-wise, just it's something that's not really in my head at the moment. | 521.0076 |
346 | ATL_int_01 | 521.2860 | Nah, cool, cool, cool. | 522.6214 |
348 | | 522.8792 | Feel the same exact way | 524.0186 |
350 | | 524.5758 | <laugh> even though I do got a girl, still, | 526.6793 |
352 | | 526.8715 | you know. | 527.2369 |
353 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 527.2674 | Right, until- yeah, until other responsibilities are placed in. | 531.2578 |
354 | ATL_int_01 | 531.3105 | Definitely, definitely. | 533.1932 |
356 | | 533.5954 | What you call it again? Um, | 534.9978 |
358 | | 536.3744 | how about siblings? | 537.4970 |
360 | | 537.6774 | Do you have any? | 538.4095 |
361 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 538.8375 | Um, I have stepbrothers. Um, all of my brothers are older than me. My dad had previous kids, | 543.5163 |
362 | ATL_int_01 | 543.5612 | [Mm-hm.] | 543.8672 |
363 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 543.7671 | [um], before he had me. | 544.9509 |
364 | ATL_int_01 | 545.0946 | [Mm-hm.] | 545.4008 |
365 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 545.3015 | [Um], | 545.9614 |
366 | | 546.2351 | three brothers, uh, | 547.6629 |
368 | | 548.6270 | all of them are actually- well two of them are f- college football coaches, and one works | 552.9101 |
370 | | 553.3071 | in- uh, | 554.2506 |
372 | | 554.5033 | for the airport's | 555.9019 |
374 | | 556.2446 | aviation- some of the stuff with flying the planes. I- I don't know the exact title. | 560.4569 |
375 | ATL_int_01 | 560.8075 | Oh, okay. | 561.4731 |
377 | | 561.5815 | And what's your, um, | 562.5591 |
379 | | 562.6880 | relationship with them? | 563.9139 |
381 | | 564.0287 | Cool? Not so cool? | 565.1473 |
382 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 565.6474 | Um, it's- it's alright. We have a relationship. Um, they're a lot older, so of course that b- uh, builds a rift in one. | 572.3486 |
383 | ATL_int_01 | 572.5113 | [Mm-hm.] | 572.8523 |
384 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 572.7972 | [Um], and then because of just family issues, how years go down the line, pe- of course people build rifts for so many other situations. | 579.1907 |
385 | | 579.6083 | Um, but it's still all love. I still definitely love all of 'em. | 582.5729 |
387 | | 582.9067 | Um, you know, | 583.7316 |
389 | | 583.9430 | whenever they need me, if they know they really need me, they can get in touch with me. But, | 587.3510 |
391 | | 587.7274 | um, just kind of how family life is. Like I said, I'm so worried ab- | 590.7042 |
393 | | 590.7887 | I'm not so- I'm so focused on | 592.8045 |
395 | | 593.2737 | what I got going on, the fact that they got they own lives in another state doing other things, um, | 598.4023 |
397 | | 599.1757 | you know, we just all individuals right now. They have a closer bond because they share the same | 603.3557 |
399 | | 603.6857 | mother and father, and they around the same age. Me, who's being the only child by my mother, | 608.0410 |
401 | | 608.4019 | um, and raised like a only child, I kind of just more to myself. | 611.6088 |
402 | ATL_int_01 | 611.9542 | That makes a lot of sense. I can dig that. | 614.1699 |
404 | | 614.6442 | Let's see. Um, | 616.1084 |
406 | | 616.5209 | back- | 617.0310 |
408 | | 617.1545 | going back to the school thing, um, | 619.3295 |
410 | | 621.0979 | I guess more so | 622.1806 |
412 | | 622.4281 | high school. How did you get to school? | 624.7689 |
413 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 625.6594 | How'd I get to school? Um, well | 627.4640 |
415 | | 627.7630 | because technically th- the area that I lived in was never /RD-SCHOOL-3/ area, | 631.4223 |
416 | ATL_int_01 | 631.5092 | [Mm.] | 631.9011 |
417 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 631.7625 | [um], so | 632.8659 |
418 | | 633.1752 | it was close enough where I could get there in a short amount of time, | 637.2934 |
420 | | 637.6079 | but it wasn't- | 638.4479 |
422 | | 638.5153 | that wasn't my school I was supposed to be in. | 640.7581 |
423 | ATL_int_01 | 640.9231 | [Mm.] | 641.2582 |
424 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 641.1705 | [So] typically, um, my beginning years, um, | 644.2790 |
425 | | 644.3763 | friends kind of- uh, | 645.9538 |
427 | | 646.2528 | I was always a- I would say not a cool kid, but I always had friends who d- | 649.7681 |
429 | | 649.8658 | were in the right place at the right time. | 651.7218 |
431 | | 652.0311 | Um, kind of had, you know, people start picking me up | 654.4277 |
433 | | 654.4980 | and taking me to school. | 655.6440 |
435 | | 656.0255 | Um, I wasn't never too far /cau-/ f- of some days moms would pick me up and take me. | 660.4647 |
437 | | 660.8242 | Um, once I got to about like the tenth, eleventh grade though, it was just about time to take MARTA. | 664.9695 |
439 | | 665.2582 | [Um, I took] MARTA for I'd say maybe | 667.7986 |
440 | ATL_int_01 | 665.5257 | [/??/] | 665.9719 |
441 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 668.4998 | all of my eleventh grade year. | 670.3559 |
443 | | 670.7271 | [Um], and then, uh, | 672.6039 |
444 | ATL_int_01 | 670.9231 | [Wow.] | 671.2788 |
445 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 672.9428 | tenth grade- I mean, excuse me, when I was a senior, | 675.0463 |
446 | ATL_int_01 | 675.1175 | Mm-hm. | 675.3817 |
447 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 675.3931 | of course I did what every senior in high school does. I got me my own car and- | 678.6554 |
448 | ATL_int_01 | 678.7520 | [<laugh>] | 679.6594 |
449 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 679.1542 | [n- <laugh> and] it was on from there. | 680.7731 |
450 | ATL_int_01 | 680.8762 | Okay. That was a pretty | 682.4384 |
452 | | 683.0107 | good question then cause I n- I don't know. I- a lot of people just be like, oh yeah, I just took the cheese bus. | 687.8816 |
453 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 688.1755 | Uh, I mean, I t- I | 689.3032 |
455 | | 689.4661 | t- I took the cheese, but the cheese was m- | 692.1299 |
457 | | 692.1900 | was more in- like when I was younger, [like middle school] and high school. | 695.9594 |
458 | ATL_int_01 | 694.5061 | [Definitely.] | 695.1462 |
459 | | 696.0989 | [Mm-hm.] | 696.4779 |
460 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 696.2720 | [Actually] in middle school I could walk to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle school, so I never really had to take the cheese, but, | 700.8344 |
461 | ATL_int_01 | 700.8800 | That's [convenient.] | 701.7016 |
462 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 701.3652 | [yeah, the cheese] was just elementary school pretty much. | 703.8141 |
463 | ATL_int_01 | 703.9482 | Nice, nice. Um, | 705.5155 |
465 | | 705.9795 | did you have any, um, favorite subjects or- | 708.8823 |
467 | | 709.4893 | or some subjects you didn't like | 711.1747 |
469 | | 711.3595 | as much? | 712.1188 |
470 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 712.1856 | Um, I was always a social studies and science person. I love social studies and science, knowing about the history | 717.4330 |
472 | | 717.7424 | and knowing about like, uh, you know, the | 719.9336 |
474 | | 720.7675 | p- t- stuff with plants, life, | 722.8504 |
476 | | 723.1649 | um, you know, | 724.0105 |
478 | | 724.4075 | biospheres, uh, | 726.4492 |
480 | | 727.0820 | different- the rainforests, deserts. I've always just like interested in stuff like that. Um, language arts, | 732.5162 |
482 | | 732.7726 | I mean, I can read very well, but I just wasn't the- | 735.4691 |
484 | | 736.1548 | I didn't like the literature that they had us reading, so [I think that's more what made] me didn't like language arts. | 741.4176 |
485 | ATL_int_01 | 738.8702 | [Mm.] | 739.9641 |
486 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 741.8249 | Um, and math, I just never- never been the best at math, so | 746.3348 |
487 | ATL_int_01 | 746.5601 | [Mm.] | 746.8860 |
488 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 746.6475 | [it wasn't] my favorite subject, but, | 748.3250 |
489 | | 748.5673 | hey, I got B's and C's, so I got [enough to pass.] (laughing) | 751.7161 |
490 | ATL_int_01 | 750.7726 | [<laugh>] | 751.6079 |
491 | | 752.0513 | Yeah, that's more than enough, for [real.] | 753.6185 |
492 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 753.5343 | [Right.] | 754.1131 |
493 | ATL_int_01 | 754.1800 | Let's see. Um, | 755.5727 |
495 | | 757.3088 | this says friendship group. Is there a group of people | 760.4126 |
497 | | 760.7323 | you hang around | 761.6294 |
499 | | 761.7944 | with | 762.2326 |
501 | | 762.6644 | or whatever? | 763.2057 |
502 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 763.8296 | Um, yeah. I had multiple g- groups of friends. Actually, um, like I said, I was a- | 767.3159 |
504 | | 767.4317 | kind of a | 767.9911 |
506 | | 768.0996 | g- a cool kid or whatever you could say. Um, | 770.6803 |
508 | | 771.3505 | I would play baseball, so I had a baseball, um, | 774.4698 |
510 | | 775.4274 | clique of folks that I hung around with. Um, | 778.0208 |
511 | ATL_int_01 | 778.1262 | [Mm-hm.] | 778.4900 |
512 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 778.4178 | [as] well I just had some folks that I knew since middle school, | 781.2366 |
513 | ATL_int_01 | 781.4996 | [Mm-hm.] | 781.8244 |
514 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 781.6440 | [um], and kind of guys that I grew up with. I had that group of friends. | 785.2015 |
515 | | 785.4954 | I had a group of friends that were just associated with the neighborhood that I stayed in. | 789.7114 |
517 | | 790.1548 | Um, and then I would say I kind of just met friends organically throughout school. | 795.1804 |
519 | | 795.6135 | Um, so I had many groups of friends, but I would say the main people were the people who I played baseball with | 801.1288 |
521 | | 801.5104 | and the ones who I grew up with from the middle school. | 803.9285 |
523 | | 804.2430 | to the high school. | 805.0459 |
524 | ATL_int_01 | 805.6079 | Uh, cool, cool, cool. I guess, um, | 808.0999 |
526 | | 808.1675 | you know, other than baseball, what would y'all do together? | 810.7740 |
527 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 812.0049 | The middle school friends? | 813.2732 |
528 | ATL_int_01 | 813.4073 | [Uh, /unintelligible/] | 814.5518 |
529 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 813.5722 | [I mean, the- talking about the baseball] friends? | 815.0726 |
530 | ATL_int_01 | 815.2994 | middle school, high school a- | 816.8432 |
532 | | 817.0060 | and- [and the- uh], | 817.9739 |
533 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 817.4999 | [Oh, just what] we would do. | 818.5772 |
534 | ATL_int_01 | 818.7422 | [yeah.] | 819.1237 |
535 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 818.9916 | [Um], I mean, we would kick it. We would chill. I have a group of friends, um, especially during the summer time, like we played baseball, so | 825.4537 |
536 | | 825.7888 | literally we would kick it and watch baseball, the Braves, um, | 829.1851 |
538 | | 830.0203 | uh, the whole day then get on the video game and play a while, | 833.2840 |
540 | | 833.6088 | um, go outside, you know, | 835.4171 |
542 | | 835.8657 | /it's-/ just enjoy the- enjoy the sunshine of course when we were younger. | 839.5366 |
544 | | 839.7789 | Um, once we got older, it start more of going to different places | 843.3557 |
546 | | 843.6496 | versus just being outside. But when we were outside in middle school and stuff- I mean, when we were in middle school, | 848.1595 |
548 | | 848.5308 | you know, you could just be outside, and you could find anything from | 851.4859 |
550 | | 851.5599 | playing a sport to | 852.8809 |
552 | | 853.6233 | kicking it on somebody's porch to | 855.8094 |
554 | | 856.5931 | doing a billion things. Um, once we got older, like I said, it was more | 859.8502 |
556 | | 860.1838 | going to the movies, going to the mall, uh, | 863.4335 |
558 | | 864.1553 | you know, different hang out spots, um, | 866.4534 |
560 | | 866.8246 | more than anything. | 867.7321 |
561 | ATL_int_01 | 868.0414 | Nah, definitely, | 869.0356 |
563 | | 869.1860 | definitely feel you on that. | 870.8500 |
565 | | 871.3862 | Let's see. What about, um, | 873.1185 |
567 | | 873.6444 | your first job? | 874.8664 |
568 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 875.6346 | My very first job was at Red Lobster. I was a bus boy. The Red Lobster on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road. | 881.4644 |
569 | ATL_int_01 | 881.7635 | [<laugh>] | 882.6798 |
570 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 882.0264 | [Um, I] graduated high school, | 884.6906 |
571 | ATL_int_01 | 884.7679 | Okay. | 885.2526 |
572 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 885.4087 | and, uh, | 887.1912 |
574 | | 888.5287 | it was just pretty much time for me to get a job. I had certain situations going on in life, | 892.6550 |
576 | | 893.0313 | um, where I needed some extra dollars in my pocket. | 895.7522 |
578 | | 896.0152 | I got my graduation money from high school. I was able to stack that up, get ready to go to college. | 900.5626 |
580 | | 900.9376 | So I worked, um, the summer of- | 904.7323 |
582 | | 905.2634 | what was that? Two thousand eight at Red Lobster on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road. | 907.7729 |
583 | ATL_int_01 | 908.1699 | Oh, cool, cool, cool. | 909.6908 |
585 | | 910.2889 | So, um, | 911.2427 |
587 | | 912.5884 | we talking about /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road. | 914.4750 |
589 | | 914.6322 | We talking about /RD-ADDRESS-3/. | 916.3198 |
591 | | 917.0726 | You know, this some | 917.9279 |
593 | | 918.0576 | born and raised type of stuff. | 919.9636 |
595 | | 921.7321 | Do you feel like, um, that East Atlanta area | 925.3088 |
597 | | 925.5099 | have a, | 926.2936 |
599 | | 927.2062 | um, particular type of dialect, and you can possibly tell | 931.2470 |
601 | | 931.5460 | who's from that area when they talk? | 933.5207 |
602 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 934.4694 | Um, I would say maybe because I've been here my whole life, m- | 939.1295 |
604 | | 939.1966 | I can't | 940.0311 |
606 | | 940.5518 | because it sounds normal to me. | 943.0000 |
607 | ATL_int_01 | 943.1490 | [Mm-hm.] | 943.5563 |
608 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 943.3965 | [Um], but I would definitely say that when I go to other states, | 946.9282 |
609 | | 947.1190 | definitely people can tell that I'm from the South, | 949.7419 |
610 | ATL_int_01 | 949.9585 | [<laugh>] | 950.4380 |
611 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 950.1183 | [um, particularly] Atlanta. People [can kind] of really tell especially how- when, uh, you say Atlanta, | 954.2739 |
612 | ATL_int_01 | 951.7612 | [/??/] | 952.1030 |
613 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 954.7276 | [um, people kind] of know that, alright, he's from Atlanta if he say it like that. | 959.0056 |
614 | ATL_int_01 | 955.3295 | [<laugh>] | 956.1905 |
615 | | 959.0571 | Uh-huh. | 959.4812 |
616 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 959.5249 | Um, | 960.3344 |
618 | | 960.9634 | now, | 961.5562 |
620 | | 961.6636 | this side of town versus maybe like the west side, the south side, or the north side, | 966.2275 |
622 | | 966.6925 | I don't think it's a difference. Um, I just think the person may be more a little different versus the way they talk. | 972.1295 |
624 | | 972.5214 | Um, the west side do kind of got a real slang, hood | 976.4797 |
626 | | 977.2530 | very like, | 978.3461 |
628 | | 980.3606 | uh, real h- | 981.4017 |
630 | | 981.7542 | typical African American | 983.8047 |
632 | | 984.1553 | stereotyped /would/ of a Black man would be in Atlanta. | 987.3369 |
633 | ATL_int_01 | 987.3446 | [<laugh>] | 988.9592 |
634 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 987.8368 | [Um], | 988.3714 |
635 | | 989.2891 | [that's how they're- that's] the what- what sh- what people on the TV shows, | 993.1907 |
636 | ATL_int_01 | 989.5216 | [/You think so./] | 990.2493 |
637 | | 993.2749 | [Mm-hm.] | 993.5497 |
638 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 993.5001 | [a] lot of times, that's kind of what that more portrays. | 996.9125 |
639 | | 997.1600 | That side- now not saying that side hasn't built, um, | 999.9428 |
640 | ATL_int_01 | 1000.1438 | [Mm-hm.] | 1000.4480 |
641 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1000.3243 | [great] people because shi- u- shit, the f- | 1002.6393 |
642 | | 1002.8919 | previous mayor of Atlanta, | 1004.2943 |
644 | | 1004.6191 | um, | 1005.3255 |
646 | | 1005.8153 | [Kasim Reed, he] went to I think Mays High School. | 1009.0466 |
647 | ATL_int_01 | 1005.9166 | [/?/ /okay./] | 1006.8749 |
648 | | 1009.2734 | [Mm.] | 1009.5570 |
649 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1009.3611 | [Um], it was one of those high schools on the west side, so not to say that they don't have, you know, | 1013.8865 |
650 | | 1014.2165 | very prestigious people, but at the same time, the typical person from there | 1018.0510 |
652 | | 1018.4635 | has a very hood, slang, country dialect. | 1021.3095 |
653 | ATL_int_01 | 1021.5879 | Real heavy, right? | 1022.5263 |
654 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1022.6139 | Very, very. | 1023.4337 |
655 | ATL_int_01 | 1023.5523 | I- I- I think that's very very famil- um, interesting | 1027.1291 |
657 | | 1027.3765 | because | 1028.2234 |
659 | | 1028.3039 | I done did a few folks | 1029.7061 |
661 | | 1029.8063 | from the East Atlanta area, | 1031.3967 |
663 | | 1031.9364 | and, um, | 1032.9366 |
665 | | 1034.2448 | you're here born and raised. I'm here born and raised and stuff like that, | 1037.5342 |
667 | | 1038.0034 | but I don't | 1038.7201 |
669 | | 1039.0243 | necessarily think I have the most | 1041.3307 |
671 | | 1041.4379 | Atlanta, | 1042.2814 |
673 | | 1042.5237 | you know, | 1043.0198 |
675 | | 1043.1114 | dialect in some- certain people eyes and stuff like that. When I go out of town, | 1047.1419 |
677 | | 1047.7348 | or if I'm just around certain people, they might be like, | 1050.2354 |
679 | | 1050.6994 | where you from? I'm from Atlanta. | 1051.7911 |
681 | | 1052.8377 | /What/, really? | 1053.6781 |
682 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1054.0906 | [Right.] | 1054.4206 |
683 | ATL_int_01 | 1054.2195 | [<laugh>] I'm like, yeah, nigga, what the fuck? | 1056.0859 |
684 | | 1056.5456 | [But, um], | 1057.4056 |
685 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1056.6557 | [Hm.] | 1056.8370 |
686 | ATL_int_01 | 1058.1623 | I d- I- I- I get what you're saying with the west side, | 1061.2886 |
688 | | 1061.3569 | you know, not to stereotype, but it do seem like, you know, | 1064.3582 |
690 | | 1064.8635 | theirs come out a little bit more | 1066.7712 |
692 | | 1067.2197 | than others | 1068.2251 |
694 | | 1068.8541 | at times and stuff like that. What do you- what do you even think, | 1072.0346 |
696 | | 1072.1370 | just if you had to | 1073.3435 |
698 | | 1073.8693 | take a stab at it, is the reasoning | 1075.7175 |
700 | | 1075.8157 | behind | 1076.4665 |
702 | | 1076.6470 | all of that? | 1077.1728 |
703 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1077.9153 | Uh, I mean, I- | 1079.0105 |
705 | | 1079.0749 | the- the level of income. The west side is typically the poorer place. Um, [the original-] | 1083.6086 |
706 | ATL_int_01 | 1083.0125 | [Mm.] | 1083.5424 |
707 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1083.9308 | the original projects of Atlanta, the Bowen Homes, the | 1087.3903 |
709 | | 1087.7705 | Fourth Wards, Mechanicsville, all that stuff is the west side of Atlanta, or a least where the west side of Atlanta begins to start. | 1094.4149 |
710 | ATL_int_01 | 1094.7758 | [Mm-hm.] | 1095.0852 |
711 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1094.9099 | [Um], | 1095.4977 |
712 | | 1095.9359 | so a lot of that poverty | 1098.7097 |
714 | | 1098.9933 | raised a certain amount o- a certain a- | 1101.4461 |
716 | | 1102.1009 | type of people. Again, the east side | 1104.0034 |
718 | | 1104.5396 | was more | 1106.0798 |
720 | | 1106.5593 | middle class than the west side, uh, | 1109.2506 |
722 | | 1109.5084 | so you had a c- a few more people who- | 1112.0334 |
724 | | 1113.0904 | who I would say went more proper, took the business route a little more, [um, saw a little] more life, saw a little more outside of two-eighty-five | 1120.1909 |
725 | ATL_int_01 | 1116.9793 | [Mm.] | 1117.5485 |
726 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1120.4230 | at a earlier age than versus the west side people. | 1123.4480 |
728 | | 1123.7316 | So the west side people were typically | 1125.7321 |
730 | | 1126.1703 | like I said, just the more hood, the more- | 1128.4337 |
732 | | 1130.1338 | the more that way because there's just- that's the m- that's the p- that's the pri- uh, cost of living around there. It was a lot of hoods, a lot of projects, | 1136.3658 |
734 | | 1136.7112 | a lot of | 1137.6393 |
736 | | 1139.7996 | crazy stuff going on on that side of town. | 1141.9636 |
737 | ATL_int_01 | 1142.6081 | That's- um, | 1143.4691 |
739 | | 1144.6601 | that's interesting that you said the- the two-eighty-five thing cause, um, | 1148.5720 |
741 | | 1150.3044 | um, somebody | 1151.2000 |
743 | | 1151.2712 | sent me, um, | 1152.4595 |
745 | | 1152.7276 | a couple of tracks of their music, | 1154.4895 |
747 | | 1154.7215 | wanted me to engineer it and whatnot. | 1156.6395 |
749 | | 1156.8870 | Um, | 1157.4300 |
750 | | 1157.4300 | Um, | 1157.5149 |
751 | | 1157.5149 | I said I'll check it out. | 1158.5575 |
753 | | 1159.1078 | Really didn't have time to, but I l- I let him know. | 1161.3026 |
755 | | 1161.4113 | But, um, as I'm checking out the music, | 1163.6191 |
757 | | 1164.9276 | um, I'm giving | 1166.0427 |
759 | | 1166.1169 | them my little feedback | 1167.2839 |
761 | | 1167.3973 | or whatever. And basically | 1168.7791 |
763 | | 1169.4531 | word for word this is what I said. | 1170.9844 |
765 | | 1171.6701 | Checked out all the tracks, | 1173.2839 |
767 | | 1173.5159 | and they sound good. | 1174.6605 |
769 | | 1174.8976 | You're talented. | 1175.7057 |
771 | | 1176.3502 | My only critique from you | 1177.9073 |
773 | | 1178.2063 | from what I heard | 1179.2065 |
775 | | 1179.6602 | is that | 1180.2222 |
777 | | 1180.8667 | it sound like you haven't spend a day outside of I-two-eighty-five. | 1184.4022 |
778 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1184.8508 | Mm. | 1185.2890 |
779 | ATL_int_01 | 1185.7324 | <laugh> And bruh laughed. He was like, appreciate it. I'm- I'm tryna work on that, | 1188.9586 |
781 | | 1189.2834 | you know. | 1189.7170 |
783 | | 1189.8126 | But, um, | 1190.5775 |
785 | | 1191.2117 | which it's nothing wrong with that, | 1192.7069 |
786 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1193.3702 | [Right.] | 1193.7438 |
787 | ATL_int_01 | 1193.4867 | [but, you] know. | 1194.2110 |
788 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1194.8452 | We- we just in Atlanta, I think because one, | 1198.2635 |
790 | | 1198.6141 | um, I think it's the Mecca right now of African American | 1202.1908 |
792 | | 1202.5053 | urban culture. | 1203.5623 |
793 | ATL_int_01 | 1203.6977 | [Mm-hm.] | 1204.0487 |
794 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1203.9190 | [Um], so we feel that | 1206.6183 |
795 | | 1206.8214 | because it's like a- it loo- it seems like it's a melting pot which it is | 1211.1967 |
797 | | 1211.4325 | a melting pot of so many places down here in Atlanta. | 1214.1083 |
798 | ATL_int_01 | 1214.2488 | [Mm-hm.] | 1214.5553 |
799 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1214.4486 | [Um], | 1215.1447 |
800 | | 1215.5056 | people feel that if you can- if you s- | 1218.3966 |
802 | | 1219.1442 | if you sound like what's hot- what's Atlanta quote unquote hot, | 1222.9956 |
804 | | 1223.2740 | then you s- then you'll- it'll be what the rest of the world, like it'll be what /it-/ whatever, | 1227.3096 |
806 | | 1227.6705 | which we have to understand especially as people who are doing, uh, | 1231.2989 |
808 | | 1231.4690 | uh, art | 1232.2888 |
810 | | 1232.5363 | cause that's what music is. You just being creative and doing your art. | 1235.5665 |
812 | | 1235.9738 | Like | 1236.3966 |
814 | | 1236.6699 | your art gotta be bigger than that. You don't want just | 1239.9438 |
816 | | 1240.2480 | the people in- /insi-/ i- in Atlanta to buy your music even if you say Georgia, | 1245.0622 |
818 | | 1245.3560 | you have people across the world just- I mean, I understand that folks maybe like the Migos | 1249.8505 |
819 | ATL_int_01 | 1249.8970 | Mm-hm. | 1250.1910 |
820 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1250.2218 | and Future, um, but they have a style that they kind of created on there. | 1254.1182 |
822 | | 1254.6183 | And I wouldn't say that some of it hasn't been | 1256.7631 |
824 | | 1258.4491 | /?/ | 1258.6536 |
826 | | 1258.7596 | a t- stolen, or | 1260.6183 |
828 | | 1261.1854 | copied a little bit from other people, | 1263.0322 |
830 | | 1263.2461 | but their style and their flow is their own and that's kind of what- | 1267.1184 |
832 | | 1267.9124 | they're the more Atlanta- | 1269.5262 |
834 | | 1269.8407 | they're the originators right now sadly enough. | 1272.2007 |
836 | | 1272.4585 | [Um], | 1272.9431 |
837 | ATL_int_01 | 1272.7833 | [<laugh>] | 1273.5515 |
838 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1273.5876 | Future has his own lane. [Uh, the Migos] have their own lane. | 1277.7263 |
839 | ATL_int_01 | 1275.6682 | [/??/] | 1276.2137 |
840 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1277.9893 | T.I. has their- his own lane. | 1279.8660 |
842 | | 1280.2372 | Um, I'm a- | 1281.3921 |
844 | | 1281.6035 | OutKa- well, people don't really go to the OutKast [lane too much these days.] | 1285.2215 |
845 | ATL_int_01 | 1283.8243 | [They don't, but they-] that's as Atlanta as it [gets.] | 1287.0725 |
846 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1286.9797 | [Right], [because the- right, and] Kilo Alis and the Pa- and well not Pastor Troy cause he's definitely not Atlanta. He's more g- he's Augusta. | 1293.9851 |
847 | ATL_int_01 | 1287.3303 | [/unintelligible/] | 1288.6914 |
848 | | 1294.1838 | [Mm-hm.] | 1294.5360 |
849 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1294.3872 | [Um], | 1294.7894 |
850 | | 1295.0781 | but those originators from- originally from Atlanta, that's kind of where- | 1299.1034 |
852 | | 1300.0572 | because you- you do see it where Future, you know, th- hi- he kind of- it's more musical. | 1304.9797 |
854 | | 1305.2478 | He has a lot of great production. He has a lot of great beats. He [raps on so many different] things. Right, | 1310.5878 |
855 | ATL_int_01 | 1308.6543 | [Dungeon Family.] | 1309.8684 |
856 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1310.7528 | because he gets if from that Dungeon Family, | 1312.6811 |
857 | ATL_int_01 | 1312.7413 | [Mm-hm.] | 1313.0651 |
858 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1312.9183 | [from] the Kilo Ali days, from the days when Atlanta was more, | 1316.6961 |
859 | | 1317.0003 | um, | 1317.5777 |
861 | | 1318.8822 | I would say it was definitely lyrical, but it was definitely a vibe. It was a beat. It was a feel. | 1323.8613 |
862 | ATL_int_01 | 1324.0589 | Mm-hm. | 1324.3811 |
863 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1324.3886 | Um, | 1325.0008 |
865 | | 1325.5923 | and even | 1326.3620 |
867 | | 1326.4561 | to go all the way down to the Migos, um, they still now are definitely even more progressing. | 1331.3410 |
869 | | 1331.6490 | They have that young urban culture. | 1333.7938 |
871 | | 1334.2269 | They got that kind of | 1335.5959 |
873 | | 1335.6604 | already swag with them, but you can see now that they're getting a little older, they're making more music, | 1339.9279 |
875 | | 1340.2321 | it's becoming to sound more | 1341.8922 |
877 | | 1342.1088 | musical, more instruments, more- um, | 1345.5412 |
879 | | 1345.9794 | more thought out than just trapping out the bando. | 1348.5934 |
880 | ATL_int_01 | 1349.0678 | Nah, I- I- I definitely definitely agree on that. | 1352.1702 |
882 | | 1352.7683 | You know, | 1353.3580 |
884 | | 1353.5475 | um, | 1354.2377 |
886 | | 1354.8976 | I like to say, | 1355.8295 |
888 | | 1356.2110 | you know, people been /Atlantanized/ | 1358.0001 |
890 | | 1358.2321 | for real for real, especially just | 1359.7994 |
891 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1359.8384 | Right. | 1360.1274 |
892 | ATL_int_01 | 1360.3305 | all over the world. | 1361.4479 |
894 | | 1361.9893 | Do you feel like, um, | 1363.7629 |
896 | | 1365.3406 | the influence of the music alone | 1368.5358 |
898 | | 1369.2370 | is affecting, | 1370.3764 |
900 | | 1371.0106 | you know, the people around in the area that talk this way, or do you think it's the people around this area talking of- this way that affected the music | 1378.5780 |
902 | | 1378.9131 | to be | 1379.4170 |
904 | | 1379.7057 | in that type of | 1380.6441 |
906 | | 1381.1751 | space? | 1381.9485 |
907 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1382.3919 | Um, I definitely think that how the people are | 1386.1233 |
909 | | 1386.5564 | affected | 1387.4845 |
911 | | 1387.9124 | the music because that's really what this area is. | 1391.5871 |
913 | | 1392.0254 | But I think that when it comes to music, | 1394.8869 |
915 | | 1395.2942 | it's more of what got pushed more | 1398.4946 |
917 | | 1398.7627 | than certain things. It's not that there's other people in Atlanta | 1402.3769 |
919 | | 1402.6811 | who are not making trap music that are great artists, that make great music, | 1407.1962 |
921 | | 1407.5984 | but it's not getting that constant radio push. It's not getting that constant, | 1411.6804 |
923 | | 1412.0310 | uh, you know, | 1412.7271 |
925 | | 1412.7918 | videos and things like that. Um, | 1414.9492 |
927 | | 1415.3757 | which at this point in time now so understandable cause it's- it's almost like it's- it's function is- | 1420.2119 |
929 | | 1420.5625 | is already placed in our head that | 1422.4585 |
931 | | 1422.7266 | that's what we- that's what we gonna enjoy. | 1424.8423 |
933 | | 1425.0802 | We get | 1425.5726 |
935 | | 1426.0624 | sucked in by the TV and all the stuff. | 1428.7472 |
937 | | 1429.0617 | Um, | 1429.7216 |
939 | | 1430.3919 | so it's kind of that. | 1431.8369 |
941 | | 1431.9116 | I will say that words are very powerful, | 1434.7575 |
943 | | 1435.0462 | um, and especially in African American culture, | 1437.5829 |
945 | | 1437.9696 | um, we tend to- | 1439.9326 |
947 | | 1441.4123 | <ts> we tend to move towards people who give strong words, | 1445.2998 |
949 | | 1445.6335 | um, whether it be | 1447.0256 |
951 | | 1447.3556 | a Martin Luther King, a Malcolm X, a President Obama, | 1450.6862 |
953 | | 1450.8770 | a Future, | 1451.6748 |
955 | | 1452.0254 | um, | 1452.6647 |
957 | | 1453.0875 | whoev- if- if y- if- if we can feel your words, that's kind of where the group of the people go from even Earth, Wind and Fire. | 1460.0104 |
959 | | 1460.4524 | People really felt those words, so | 1462.7894 |
961 | | 1463.1193 | that's the kind of words that the people | 1466.0361 |
963 | | 1467.4437 | of the times are d- are- are- | 1469.2689 |
965 | | 1470.1594 | are moving towards, so that's what the times look like. | 1472.7631 |
966 | ATL_int_01 | 1474.4027 | Wow. | 1475.0678 |
967 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1475.4325 | It was a lot of love- think about it, in- in the seventies and eighties, it was a lot of love music, | 1480.1449 |
968 | ATL_int_01 | 1480.3697 | [Mm-hm.] | 1480.6759 |
969 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1480.4388 | [so] of course there was a lot of more love. Don't get me wrong, seventies and eighties had its time with | 1484.6652 |
970 | | 1485.0209 | the drugs and, you know, a lot of crazy stuff going on, | 1488.3709 |
972 | | 1488.5925 | um, just with- especially with this time in America. | 1490.8456 |
974 | | 1491.1756 | But it was- | 1492.1397 |
976 | | 1492.5522 | killings were going on, but it was a more peaceful time. You didn't have to worry about, | 1496.3713 |
978 | | 1496.7270 | you know, uh, | 1497.4540 |
980 | | 1497.9283 | a nine- a nine year older- | 1499.8346 |
982 | | 1500.2729 | a nine n- excuse me, nineteen year old going into a church, going [into-] | 1504.1758 |
983 | ATL_int_01 | 1503.9235 | [Ah], [yeah.] | 1504.6385 |
984 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1504.3975 | [shooting] up a concert, doing- you know. | 1506.3760 |
985 | | 1506.5874 | Now you did have some crazily racially based things, | 1509.5541 |
986 | ATL_int_01 | 1509.5575 | Mm-hm, | 1509.8687 |
987 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1509.8789 | um, that [were-] | 1510.9956 |
988 | ATL_int_01 | 1510.5663 | [t-] | 1510.7313 |
989 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1511.3912 | you know, we- we do understand that that's what the times were, and it- it definitely isn't right. But | 1516.4645 |
990 | ATL_int_01 | 1516.5522 | Mm-hm. | 1516.9595 |
991 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1518.1449 | I just think that thi- these times are more violent because of things like that. It- i- it's- it's the music. It's the s- it's the different things like that, | 1525.2937 |
993 | | 1525.6237 | um, | 1526.2424 |
995 | | 1526.7941 | when it comes to that much. | 1527.8562 |
996 | ATL_int_01 | 1528.4439 | So, um, | 1529.3757 |
998 | | 1530.1646 | you know, | 1530.7936 |
1000 | | 1532.0671 | you got a interesting, um, | 1533.7427 |
1002 | | 1534.5264 | job being a DJ, | 1536.2625 |
1004 | | 1537.5824 | and you got those feelings of what you feel like | 1540.4336 |
1006 | | 1541.3551 | how the music could affect people and what you like to listen to and | 1544.9023 |
1008 | | 1545.4128 | what they might | 1546.1365 |
1010 | | 1546.2184 | ha- | 1546.5769 |
1012 | | 1546.6490 | like to listen to. But I guess | 1548.6028 |
1014 | | 1549.0669 | I don't know. I don't wanna assume, | 1550.4280 |
1016 | | 1550.8353 | as a DJ | 1551.9438 |
1018 | | 1552.2738 | it's not about what you like or listen to. | 1554.3638 |
1020 | | 1554.5038 | It's about what | 1555.3917 |
1022 | | 1555.5670 | the people who- | 1556.5699 |
1024 | | 1556.6753 | what | 1556.9487 |
1026 | | 1557.3251 | supposed to like or whatever. What's your thoughts on | 1559.5000 |
1028 | | 1560.2058 | just that in particular? | 1561.5257 |
1029 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1561.7805 | Um, interestingly enough, | 1563.3973 |
1031 | | 1563.5520 | I'm very biased when it comes to DJing. | 1566.1491 |
1033 | | 1566.4739 | Now don't get me wrong, I do understand that there are certain songs | 1569.7169 |
1035 | | 1569.9644 | that, um, just because they're hot they need to get played. | 1572.9947 |
1037 | | 1573.2937 | But, | 1573.7931 |
1039 | | 1573.9732 | I- whe- when I DJ, my goal is not to make you really listen | 1578.3811 |
1041 | | 1578.7730 | to the song so much. I want you to dance. I want you to feel the vibe. | 1582.6502 |
1043 | | 1582.9750 | So | 1583.6232 |
1045 | | 1587.1859 | I would say | 1588.2583 |
1047 | | 1588.5883 | the songs that are like, uh, s- for example, there's a guy named SixNine out of New York. | 1592.6291 |
1049 | | 1592.8714 | He's has a very hot song, but I've probably maybe played that song | 1596.4378 |
1051 | | 1596.7008 | once or twice ever in my life. | 1598.6652 |
1053 | | 1598.9023 | Um, and the two times that I did play it, I didn't get the vibe. I didn't get the feel. | 1602.8091 |
1055 | | 1603.1390 | Um, so I just don't play it anymore. | 1604.9333 |
1057 | | 1605.2993 | Uh, | 1606.0830 |
1059 | | 1606.5934 | and now, if there's a special request, or someone needed it, and they were paying me, of course I would play it. | 1611.3973 |
1061 | | 1611.7943 | But I just feel that | 1613.1090 |
1063 | | 1614.1092 | just because as- a- | 1615.4600 |
1065 | | 1615.7694 | we have a responsibility as a DJ to kind of curate what's going on | 1620.3773 |
1067 | | 1620.8465 | in the music culture. So if I constantly keep playing it, | 1623.7375 |
1069 | | 1624.0107 | that's the only reason that people are remembering it. [Like] | 1626.4495 |
1070 | ATL_int_01 | 1626.3305 | [Mm-hm.] | 1626.6422 |
1071 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1626.7227 | there's certain songs that- | 1628.1767 |
1073 | | 1628.4241 | I mean, because especially Atlanta, we party from Monday to Monday. | 1631.9442 |
1074 | ATL_int_01 | 1632.2496 | [Mm-hm.] | 1632.6207 |
1075 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1632.2675 | [So] if you go out one night, | 1634.2952 |
1076 | | 1634.5633 | you- you listening to s- music the next night, you on Instagram the next night, | 1639.1197 |
1078 | | 1639.4548 | and, | 1640.2367 |
1080 | | 1640.3260 | uh, you done went out let's say a night after that as well too, | 1643.3616 |
1082 | | 1643.6761 | and then the other night you was working, and you was listening to the radio, | 1646.4551 |
1084 | | 1646.7218 | and every single night, you heard w- it just happened to be one song in particular, | 1650.9547 |
1086 | | 1651.2125 | um, | 1651.9137 |
1088 | | 1652.1921 | you're gonna constantl- that song is gonna get stuck with you [regardless of] how- | 1656.7640 |
1089 | ATL_int_01 | 1655.8846 | [Mm-hm.] | 1656.2463 |
1090 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1657.6714 | regardless of how much you don't want it to or n- on- or not. If you constantly listen to it, | 1662.4598 |
1092 | | 1662.7176 | you will remember the words. You will remember the melody. You will remember the flow, | 1666.4954 |
1094 | | 1667.0677 | and it's either gonna stick to you one way or another. You either gonna like it, or you're gonna dislike it. Most people, | 1671.6138 |
1096 | | 1671.8767 | because it's all a similar flow, | 1673.7070 |
1098 | | 1674.0164 | like it, so | 1675.1249 |
1099 | ATL_int_01 | 1675.3724 | Mm. | 1675.7797 |
1100 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1675.9240 | if we sit up here and constantly keep playing the BS, then | 1679.8565 |
1102 | | 1680.1143 | [eventually] | 1681.0166 |
1103 | ATL_int_01 | 1680.1315 | [<laugh>] | 1680.5525 |
1104 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1682.2024 | BS is what's gonna run. So that's why | 1684.7635 |
1106 | | 1685.0213 | like I d- I- I personally- like I have no Famous Dex. | 1688.1303 |
1107 | ATL_int_01 | 1688.4345 | [Mm.] | 1688.8057 |
1108 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1688.5943 | [Um], I don't- I n- I ta- I have one Famous Dex song, that Pick It Up I think is actually pretty [dope.] | 1692.9135 |
1109 | ATL_int_01 | 1692.7161 | [Okay], I [like that.] | 1693.5284 |
1110 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1693.3156 | [Um], | 1694.1199 |
1111 | | 1694.3932 | I don't have many XXXTentacion. I have him on the Roll In Peace track. | 1697.9597 |
1113 | | 1698.3702 | [Um], | 1699.1211 |
1114 | ATL_int_01 | 1698.3930 | [/??/ good] on [that.] | 1699.5459 |
1115 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1699.4124 | [SixNine], I don't. I- like I said, I have the one song of his, | 1703.0058 |
1116 | | 1703.2533 | the Gummo, um, even though he has Billboard tracks. | 1706.0942 |
1117 | ATL_int_01 | 1706.2179 | [Yeah.] | 1706.5530 |
1118 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1706.4241 | [Big] shoutout to them, you know. They're making money and doing whatever they should do in their crowd. | 1711.0682 |
1119 | | 1711.3878 | Um, | 1712.0065 |
1121 | | 1712.3365 | Billboard has to do with a lot of | 1714.0607 |
1123 | | 1714.2184 | people that are not African American, | 1715.9545 |
1124 | ATL_int_01 | 1716.2535 | [Mm-hm.] | 1716.6248 |
1125 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1716.3824 | [so] when it comes to that, you know, hey, | 1718.6317 |
1126 | | 1718.7218 | that mean white people is loving your stuff. That doesn't mean our culture is loving your stuff. | 1722.3103 |
1127 | ATL_int_01 | 1722.4443 | Mm-hm. | 1722.8825 |
1128 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1722.9238 | Um, | 1723.4497 |
1130 | | 1724.0890 | so, like I said, I feel that | 1725.9489 |
1132 | | 1726.1860 | I- I- I feel like I'm gonna play what's gonna- | 1728.3360 |
1134 | | 1728.5938 | what I enjoy | 1729.4858 |
1136 | | 1730.0913 | [when I play] music. I- sadly enough, I'm very biased. | 1732.7171 |
1137 | ATL_int_01 | 1730.1302 | [Mm.] | 1730.4675 |
1138 | | 1733.1089 | Sadly enough, very biased. Um, | 1735.3105 |
1140 | | 1736.9383 | Childish Gambino | 1738.4748 |
1142 | | 1738.6707 | and | 1739.3822 |
1144 | | 1739.7225 | CyHi the Prynce are both | 1741.4703 |
1146 | | 1741.9498 | Atlanta artists, | 1743.2608 |
1147 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1743.2719 | [Mm-hm.] | 1743.6498 |
1148 | ATL_int_01 | 1743.5273 | [probably] more so East Atlanta [artists], | 1745.8050 |
1149 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1745.7796 | [Mm-hm.] | 1746.1762 |
1150 | ATL_int_01 | 1746.4391 | but when I listen to 'em | 1747.7534 |
1152 | | 1747.8437 | and hear 'em talk, | 1748.9022 |
1154 | | 1749.2786 | I don't really hear, | 1750.5985 |
1156 | | 1750.8408 | you know, that Atlantaness. I'm- I'm hearing like some New York type of stuff coming from CyHi. | 1756.9285 |
1158 | | 1757.2481 | Childish Gambino, I'm hearing just some | 1759.1300 |
1160 | | 1759.7333 | extra left field, that don't [even sound] like a nigga that coulda possibly | 1763.1605 |
1161 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1761.1446 | [Right.] | 1761.4745 |
1162 | ATL_int_01 | 1763.3410 | been around the same trap area as some of these other people. | 1766.6716 |
1164 | | 1767.3044 | What's your- what's your | 1768.5111 |
1166 | | 1768.6102 | thoughts on that or just to elaborate more on that? | 1770.8929 |
1167 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1771.2763 | Uh, again, I think it's m- it is the- that melting pot thing, and it's- and it's for us- us to understand that | 1776.8980 |
1169 | | 1777.2071 | music is so much bigger. Like that is what's pushed on us. | 1780.9849 |
1171 | | 1781.2788 | There are- | 1782.3409 |
1173 | | 1782.7792 | you can listen to the radio right now in Atlanta, and there are probably at least five Migos songs played in a hour. | 1789.5732 |
1175 | | 1789.9083 | If [it's not a-] if it's not a Migos song, it's a song featuring a Migo. | 1792.8870 |
1176 | ATL_int_01 | 1790.0991 | [<laugh>] | 1790.4122 |
1177 | | 1793.2685 | [You gotta let me] check for [real /??/.] | 1795.2690 |
1178 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1793.3458 | [S-] | 1793.8872 |
1180 | | 1794.7173 | [Right, and- and] I mean it's- it's t- it's | 1796.3663 |
1181 | | 1796.4739 | probably gonna be like that. So | 1798.2992 |
1183 | | 1798.8303 | when you have artists who are from Atlanta who sound different, | 1802.8917 |
1185 | | 1803.1804 | they just don't get that respect because | 1805.8924 |
1187 | | 1806.5884 | that's n- that's not what's being pushed. That's not what these big labels- because that's o- | 1811.0829 |
1189 | | 1811.3149 | that's the only reason your songs get honestly in rotation in- in hip hop which a lot of folks don't know. | 1816.3353 |
1191 | | 1816.6137 | It's coming down from these labels. These labels are paying | 1819.1504 |
1193 | | 1819.3911 | top dollar to these r- uh, radio exec companies | 1822.5879 |
1195 | | 1822.7529 | to the top DJ's, and the top DJ's are just sending the music out to their crew, | 1827.1443 |
1196 | ATL_int_01 | 1827.4176 | [Mm-hm.] | 1827.7939 |
1197 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1827.6289 | [and] they're playing the stuff. But it's these- it's the- the m- the Migos tracks, the Cardi B's tracks, | 1832.8710 |
1198 | | 1833.1701 | the w- Future tracks, the whatever is hot at the time. | 1836.2636 |
1200 | | 1836.9596 | And typically tracks like the- uh, | 1839.3557 |
1202 | | 1840.4229 | the Childish Gambinos and CyHis where it might be more | 1843.7485 |
1204 | | 1844.1661 | lyrical or might be more eclectic, | 1846.8148 |
1206 | | 1847.4077 | there's just- that's [not what] the [companies are tryna fund.] | 1850.1661 |
1207 | ATL_int_01 | 1848.4337 | [/??/] | 1848.8256 |
1209 | | 1849.2896 | [/unintelligible/] This what's playing on /nine forty-five/ right now. | 1852.5622 |
1210 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1854.1553 | Um, this is actually Jacquees. Tha- actually this guy's actually literally from the same street | 1858.3147 |
1212 | | 1858.7581 | that, uh, was the same main street I was on- that I grew up on, /RD-ADDRESS-4/. | 1863.0670 |
1213 | ATL_int_01 | 1863.3454 | [Oh wow.] | 1863.8558 |
1214 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1863.5395 | [Um], | 1864.1858 |
1215 | | 1864.6601 | m- so I definitely love the fact that, you know, he's out there. Um, | 1868.6081 |
1217 | | 1868.9071 | he has a- he's been very talented since he was a kid actually, | 1872.6193 |
1219 | | 1872.9751 | um, | 1873.5732 |
1221 | | 1874.6803 | with his singing. So, um, | 1876.7478 |
1223 | | 1877.2530 | I definitely love the fact that that's a guy- like I said, I literally | 1880.2331 |
1225 | | 1880.6081 | p- saw him | 1881.6368 |
1227 | | 1881.7009 | at a wing spot when he was | 1883.3974 |
1229 | | 1883.9856 | thirteen, twelve years old with a group of other guys around, you know, singing to females, | 1888.6756 |
1230 | ATL_int_01 | 1888.7839 | [Mm.] | 1889.2530 |
1231 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1888.9746 | [him just] singing happy birthdays and stuff like that. So, um, | 1892.0062 |
1232 | ATL_int_01 | 1892.1609 | [That's tight.] | 1892.6189 |
1233 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1892.3134 | [I definitely] love seeing that because I know | 1894.3765 |
1234 | | 1894.6395 | that's he's on a larger scale right now. | 1896.5007 |
1235 | ATL_int_01 | 1896.6348 | It's tough for a singer out here right now | 1898.5537 |
1237 | | 1898.6621 | I would think. | 1899.3299 |
1238 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1899.8403 | I would think it is too. I just think it's a- more about the content in what you singing. Um, a lot of- a l- you have to kind of | 1905.8403 |
1240 | | 1906.0259 | still be hip hop. You gotta still sing about | 1908.9957 |
1241 | ATL_int_01 | 1909.2793 | Mm-hm. | 1909.7021 |
1242 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1909.8825 | sex, murder, drugs, and guns, [you feel what] I'm saying. [You can't] really- | 1914.2172 |
1243 | ATL_int_01 | 1912.3972 | [S-] | 1912.8045 |
1245 | | 1913.4644 | [Yeah.] | 1913.7635 |
1246 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1914.6039 | nobody's really singing about love anymore because love is so- | 1918.2940 |
1247 | ATL_int_01 | 1920.0573 | Mm. | 1920.4337 |
1248 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1921.1504 | love is so- is so | 1923.1482 |
1250 | | 1923.2239 | cliche r- now. | 1924.4797 |
1252 | | 1924.7271 | So many people are falling out of love. | 1926.9905 |
1254 | | 1927.2380 | You got the whole gay thing, so you- you know, that's a whole different type of love, | 1931.9491 |
1256 | | 1932.2842 | um, so many divorces, | 1934.1197 |
1258 | | 1934.3967 | and it's not cherished anymore. It's kind of more like, | 1937.3201 |
1260 | | 1938.1811 | alright, I'm more focused on my money or more focused on my life and my goals than- | 1942.8471 |
1262 | | 1942.9109 | than | 1943.5418 |
1264 | | 1943.7996 | being in love because being in love | 1945.8825 |
1266 | | 1946.7576 | doesn't seem to get people far these days, /it/ doesn't bring [people happiness.] | 1950.4801 |
1267 | ATL_int_01 | 1949.6397 | [<laugh>] | 1950.1656 |
1268 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1950.7843 | What brings people happiness is money, | 1952.4586 |
1270 | | 1952.7267 | [and] | 1953.4021 |
1271 | ATL_int_01 | 1953.0979 | [Mm.] | 1953.5052 |
1272 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1953.9795 | m- sadly enough it's running the world, so that's what's running | 1957.1194 |
1274 | | 1957.4700 | music. That's what's running businesses. | 1960.0053 |
1276 | | 1960.3198 | Um, that's why you don't get a lot of, you know, just | 1962.7637 |
1278 | | 1963.1998 | people | 1963.8270 |
1280 | | 1963.9456 | giving out- I mean, think about it. Sprint charges you literally- | 1967.2066 |
1282 | | 1967.7635 | or Comcast, or these m- | 1969.2627 |
1284 | | 1969.3585 | people, you feel what I'm saying, literally hundreds and thousands and thousands of dollars, | 1973.2633 |
1286 | | 1973.5005 | and they never say, hey, you know what? You payed your bill sixteen months in a row | 1977.6650 |
1288 | | 1977.9734 | on time | 1978.8921 |
1290 | | 1979.1396 | no matter what. You know what? The least we can do is this month, we're gonna give you fifty percent off. | 1982.9484 |
1292 | | 1983.2268 | This month we gonna take them- the- you know, [take it off.] | 1985.8202 |
1293 | ATL_int_01 | 1985.3922 | [Mm.] | 1985.9491 |
1294 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1986.1656 | Because if the- if it was a love thing and if it was appreciation for me- | 1989.6341 |
1296 | | 1989.8094 | [us doing business together], | 1991.3613 |
1297 | ATL_int_01 | 1990.0029 | [Mm.] | 1990.8767 |
1298 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 1991.5727 | that's what would happen. Because that's what you would do business with anybody. After so long, | 1995.8713 |
1300 | | 1996.0723 | you gonna be like, hey, you know what? Boom. | 1997.8460 |
1302 | | 1998.0419 | But that's not what | 1999.4855 |
1304 | | 2000.2279 | this country's built off. It's built off of- it's built off of money. It's ran off of money, so | 2004.6451 |
1306 | | 2004.9596 | if it ain't making dollars in they eyes, it just don't make sense. So- | 2008.1909 |
1308 | | 2008.6859 | and love don't make dollars. | 2010.1966 |
1309 | ATL_int_01 | 2011.1040 | Oh man, just some- | 2012.4342 |
1311 | | 2012.5424 | it was a lot of ways I coulda went with that, but | 2014.8354 |
1313 | | 2015.0726 | I'm- I'm gonna | 2015.8905 |
1315 | | 2016.0569 | go down this lane with it. | 2017.5164 |
1317 | | 2018.2279 | Love dollars- | 2019.5465 |
1319 | | 2019.9383 | but how do you feel about, | 2021.3871 |
1321 | | 2022.2790 | um, your experience within the Black community when it comes to business and clients and | 2028.1759 |
1323 | | 2028.6864 | patronizing them service-wise and I guess | 2032.0259 |
1325 | | 2032.7426 | as far as them paying | 2034.3409 |
1327 | | 2035.0730 | like how they wou- I guess pay Georgia Power with the rent or | 2038.5003 |
1329 | | 2039.0210 | some of these other people that might not really definitely don't have no type of love for them. What's your | 2043.5104 |
1331 | | 2044.2980 | [thoughts?] | 2044.7278 |
1332 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2044.3680 | [Um], | 2045.0360 |
1333 | | 2045.1043 | I would just say we are very brainwashed in that sense on who we pay | 2049.3203 |
1335 | | 2049.5832 | and the services that we allow. Um, it's kind of funny. Again on /RD-ADDRESS-4/, | 2053.4951 |
1337 | | 2053.8148 | there are multiple | 2054.7337 |
1339 | | 2054.8168 | fast food restaurants, horrible restaurants. I hate the f- hate that. | 2058.0412 |
1340 | ATL_int_01 | 2058.4134 | [Yeah.] | 2058.7171 |
1341 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2058.4555 | [But] there's one restaurant that's a Chick-fil-A on there, | 2061.2219 |
1342 | | 2061.4638 | um, and that Chick-fil-A has probably got the most business | 2064.3454 |
1344 | | 2064.7011 | probably out of anything on /RD-ADDRESS-4/ in all honesty. Probably even bigger than the grocery store. That Chick-fil-A might bring in the most [business.] | 2070.9125 |
1345 | ATL_int_01 | 2070.8754 | [Damn], [/??/ I know-] | 2072.8820 |
1346 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2071.7890 | [Um], yeah, you know, it- it [could- the grocery store might] be because it's the grocery store. But that Chick-fil-A probably brings in the most business, | 2078.6294 |
1347 | ATL_int_01 | 2073.8256 | [<laugh>] | 2074.8619 |
1348 | | 2078.7377 | [Mm-hm.] | 2079.0780 |
1349 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2078.9130 | [and] they have | 2079.6709 |
1350 | | 2079.8494 | excellent service there. | 2081.2692 |
1352 | | 2081.4961 | Now don't get me wrong. There's sometimes where, | 2084.2582 |
1354 | | 2084.6088 | you know, situations happen where, you know, this- just situations in the area that it's in. | 2088.9589 |
1356 | | 2089.5312 | But it's all about a choice cause it's a mind set. | 2092.5371 |
1358 | | 2092.8567 | Those same people that's working in that Chick-fil-A | 2096.3665 |
1360 | | 2096.8356 | are the same people that's working in the Taco Bell across the street. There's no difference in really | 2101.1600 |
1362 | | 2101.4333 | the hiring process or the, you know, | 2103.6915 |
1364 | | 2103.9596 | the qu- | 2104.2859 |
1366 | | 2104.4224 | the qualifications you have to have. | 2106.3815 |
1367 | ATL_int_01 | 2106.4691 | [Mm-hm.] | 2106.8300 |
1368 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2106.7424 | [But] because of | 2108.3201 |
1369 | | 2109.0522 | how that standard of how that restaurant is ran, | 2112.5155 |
1370 | ATL_int_01 | 2112.6857 | Mm. | 2113.0827 |
1371 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2113.4075 | people | 2114.2376 |
1373 | | 2115.2790 | only expect certain stuff from that. | 2117.6189 |
1375 | | 2117.8762 | So if we kind of held their own- our- their own standard to our own businesses and stuff like that. | 2123.1506 |
1377 | | 2123.5153 | And a lot of things folks gotta understand, you feel what I'm saying, that | 2126.5469 |
1379 | | 2127.9338 | yes, i- | 2129.0114 |
1381 | | 2130.0463 | if we don't spen- if we don't spend our own dollar back, it doesn't matter | 2134.2380 |
1383 | | 2134.6453 | how much money we spend with the other folks because eventually we will be wiped out. | 2139.3358 |
1385 | | 2139.6657 | And that's kind of what it seems like they want us to do. And that's why a lot of Afri- well i- sadly enough, | 2144.4644 |
1387 | | 2144.7480 | a lot of African Americans with money, | 2146.7175 |
1389 | | 2147.0114 | they go move into another a- neighborhood because | 2149.8715 |
1391 | | 2150.0932 | the amount of money that's being recycled in a Black neighborhood | 2153.7164 |
1393 | | 2154.1031 | ain't nothing because the few Blacks that got a little bit of money, | 2157.2120 |
1395 | | 2157.5007 | they go to the white areas. They go to the- the north side of town to spend their money, | 2162.1860 |
1397 | | 2162.6397 | the s- uh, you know another side versus, | 2165.1970 |
1399 | | 2165.5204 | you know, us kind of saying, hey, let's build something on this side | 2168.9233 |
1401 | | 2169.1656 | and keep the money spending in our own neighborhood. | 2171.3878 |
1402 | ATL_int_01 | 2172.2062 | Wow. | 2173.0981 |
1404 | | 2173.4384 | You brought that shit | 2174.3855 |
1406 | | 2174.5258 | all the way down. | 2175.5007 |
1408 | | 2175.6245 | <laugh> | 2176.8464 |
1410 | | 2177.4689 | And I mean | 2178.3557 |
1412 | | 2179.0208 | from what I seen, it- it looks to be true | 2182.1246 |
1414 | | 2182.4494 | I mean I guess | 2183.3297 |
1416 | | 2183.6957 | I don't know. Chick-fil-A got some good branding when it comes to that cause | 2187.1575 |
1418 | | 2187.2385 | everybody just know a Chick-fil-A got some good ass service. | 2189.9845 |
1420 | | 2190.3093 | But I mean, | 2191.0466 |
1422 | | 2191.8612 | they real consistent with it, | 2193.3822 |
1424 | | 2193.7482 | um, | 2194.4494 |
1426 | | 2195.1248 | so it's not- you don't think it's more of a issue that the Black business | 2199.2790 |
1428 | | 2199.9441 | need to go above and beyond even more? Or is it the fact that | 2203.9701 |
1430 | | 2204.1336 | the- | 2204.6397 |
1432 | | 2205.2017 | the ec- | 2205.7244 |
1434 | | 2205.8542 | the- um, | 2206.7103 |
1436 | | 2206.8370 | they- | 2207.2496 |
1438 | | 2207.4026 | Black people are setting the bar too high for other Black people | 2210.8717 |
1440 | | 2211.3203 | as far as | 2212.3411 |
1442 | | 2212.7536 | they service and stuff that they don't even give that same type of consideration | 2217.1966 |
1444 | | 2217.5368 | to the white | 2218.2504 |
1446 | | 2218.3934 | or, | 2218.8211 |
1448 | | 2218.8946 | you know, other [categories?] | 2220.1185 |
1449 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2219.4586 | [I think that] we do kind of hold | 2221.8973 |
1450 | | 2222.2324 | in our heads for whatever reason other | 2224.4546 |
1452 | | 2224.6711 | businesses to a higher standard because there are businesses in | 2228.2066 |
1454 | | 2228.4593 | the East Atlanta area where- | 2230.2999 |
1456 | | 2230.6144 | um, | 2231.3001 |
1457 | ATL_int_01 | 2231.6442 | Mm-hm. | 2232.0721 |
1458 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2232.4897 | where, uh, | 2233.6601 |
1460 | | 2233.9798 | Black businesses- where they are thriving. Um, there's one in particular, a seafood spot. It's actually a house | 2238.7939 |
1462 | | 2239.0363 | that they turned into a restaurant called Wats Crackin, | 2241.6503 |
1464 | | 2242.0266 | um, on Candler Road. | 2243.9329 |
1466 | | 2244.1739 | [It's a Black businesses that] brings in lots of money. It's constantly bunking from when it's open to when it's closed. | 2250.9022 |
1467 | ATL_int_01 | 2244.2203 | [/inaudible/] | 2245.3505 |
1468 | | 2250.9538 | Mm-hm. | 2251.2683 |
1469 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2251.4539 | And | 2251.9685 |
1471 | | 2252.2533 | because they give out /goo-/ g- good quality, | 2254.4958 |
1473 | | 2254.7021 | you know, there is a wait time a lot of the time but [people understand] that | 2258.6449 |
1474 | ATL_int_01 | 2257.1858 | [<laugh>] | 2257.6653 |
1475 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2258.8408 | because of the amount of people | 2260.6557 |
1477 | | 2260.8980 | [that are there], right, and the quality of the food, the amount that they give you, the pricing is decently priced. | 2266.5010 |
1478 | ATL_int_01 | 2260.9338 | [And the quality.] | 2261.8951 |
1479 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2266.7639 | Like sometimes there is a wait, | 2268.4588 |
1481 | | 2268.7991 | and- but people still line up for it every day. | 2271.6090 |
1483 | | 2271.8977 | So who's to say why can't that be | 2273.9999 |
1485 | | 2274.3196 | on every Black business? Why- you know, from seafood to- | 2278.1143 |
1487 | | 2278.4804 | to burgers joints to breakfast spots to- | 2282.3458 |
1489 | | 2282.8047 | uh, we can have our own Italian spots. We can have our own Mexican spots. | 2286.1855 |
1491 | | 2286.4382 | There a lot of | 2287.2169 |
1493 | | 2287.3998 | you feel what I'm saying, there are | 2288.3149 |
1495 | | 2288.7428 | o- | 2288.9027 |
1497 | | 2289.3048 | we- Chinese food ain't no secret into what is- is cooking. Like | 2293.4436 |
1499 | | 2293.9076 | i- half of it's n- probably not even real | 2296.3669 |
1501 | | 2296.5989 | chicken half the time anyway, | 2298.3660 |
1502 | ATL_int_01 | 2298.5825 | [Yeah.] | 2298.8610 |
1503 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2298.6650 | [and all] it is is a different seasoning, chicken, and some rice. | 2301.9699 |
1504 | | 2302.1710 | You know, they have different lo meins and vegetables and stuff like that, but | 2305.6034 |
1505 | ATL_int_01 | 2305.9746 | [Anybody.] | 2306.4850 |
1506 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2306.1860 | [we-] right, we can cre- we can do that. I n- I have a partner actually that went to high school with me, | 2311.2322 |
1507 | | 2311.5003 | him and his dad own a Mexican restaurant. | 2313.6039 |
1509 | | 2313.9029 | Um, and it's a very successful res- Mexican restaurant. | 2316.6186 |
1510 | ATL_int_01 | 2316.6461 | I'm about to say, [we don't even] know who's actually behind there cooking that stuff. [/??/] | 2319.9596 |
1511 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2317.1188 | [Uh], | 2317.4229 |
1513 | | 2319.6296 | [right], [exactly, and lo- a- l-] I- well, the Chinese spots, a lot of 'em- | 2323.1399 |
1514 | ATL_int_01 | 2320.4443 | [<laugh>] | 2321.1764 |
1515 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2323.2979 | how they have it set up in Atlanta, you can see who's cooking it, | 2326.0598 |
1516 | ATL_int_01 | 2326.0813 | [Mm-hm.] | 2326.3943 |
1517 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2326.3456 | [um], cause the- how that open | 2328.0630 |
1518 | | 2328.1495 | format is, but | 2329.3875 |
1520 | | 2329.7124 | I mean, like I said, it's a Mexican restaurant. It's nothing but African Americans that work there. [They make] | 2333.8615 |
1521 | ATL_int_01 | 2333.5057 | [<laugh>] | 2334.6812 |
1522 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2333.9638 | [good money], great money. | 2335.3875 |
1523 | ATL_int_01 | 2335.4391 | Yeah. | 2335.8774 |
1524 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2336.9587 | So like I said, i- it's more of a mind thing, man. We kind of | 2340.5007 |
1526 | | 2341.4494 | will- i- i- i- it's- it's a mental thing. We- we hold other businesses to a higher standard, | 2346.7637 |
1528 | | 2347.1555 | and we don't wanna give ours the benefit of the doubt. | 2350.0259 |
1529 | ATL_int_01 | 2350.5106 | Mm. | 2350.8354 |
1531 | | 2351.1499 | [Okay.] | 2351.6810 |
1532 | ATL_se0_ag1_m_05 | 2351.2376 | [C-] | 2351.4129 |