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1ATL_int_011.0768Okay.1.6027
3 2.0306S- uh, /RD-NAME-3/ here,3.7733 
5 4.1342and I'm the interviewer, and I'm- well,6.6193 
7 6.8396I'm with, um,7.8193 
9 8.9020Mr. /RD-NAME-1/. Um,10.2167 
11 10.5570/RD-NAME-1/ can you give us11.6552 
13 11.8206your full name?12.6760 
14ATL_se0_ag1_m_0513.0923Uh, /RD-NAME-4/.14.3864
15ATL_int_0114.7164/RD-NAME-4/, and16.0775
17 16.2176we are now about to conduct this18.2430 
19 18.4028somewhat interview conversational piece for,21.1391 
21 22.1548uh,22.7168 
23 23.1860a good bit of m-23.9697 
25 24.1553time.24.6451 
27 24.9428So25.4877 
29 25.5564without further ado let's, um,27.1883 
31 27.2510get all the way into it.28.5106 
33 29.6552Mr. /RD-NAME-2/30.5097 
35 30.8087/RD-NAME-1/31.3037 
37 32.0564don't you got a stage name,33.3506 
39 33.4317um,33.9589 
40ATL_se0_ag1_m_0534.0002Yeah, DJ /RD-NAME-4/. You already know what it is, man. [DJ to] the world, taking over the world.38.7112
41ATL_int_0136.8396[okay.]37.2934
42 39.0927World take over DJ. Okay.41.2237
44 41.3440Nah, that's- that's real real cool,43.0665 
46 43.2676you know.43.7213 
48 44.1441Um, I'm44.9278 
50 45.1959probably gonna be segueing to a bunch of different stuff if that's cool with you.48.8809 
51ATL_se0_ag1_m_0549.2470Yeah, that's fine.49.9183
52ATL_int_0150.0667Okay, cool, cool. So, um,51.7372
54 54.0739what's your race or nationality? What do you identify as?57.1918 
55ATL_se0_ag1_m_0557.3671Um, most days I'm a Mexican, but- [uh],59.7646
56ATL_int_0159.5068[<laugh>]60.6256
57ATL_se0_ag1_m_0559.8526[<laugh>]60.1306
59 60.5225[no], I'm a African American.61.9854 
60ATL_int_0162.0885Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. And, um,64.8211
62 65.7491what's your age?66.6668 
63ATL_se0_ag1_m_0567.0381Twenty-seven years old.68.7897
64ATL_int_0168.9804Cool, cool, cool.70.1147
66 70.3828Um,71.1923 
68 72.0997and72.7390 
70 73.7018where were you born?74.4442 
71ATL_se0_ag1_m_0574.9753Decatur, GA.76.1560
72ATL_int_0176.5994Decatur, GA. [Okay.]78.5586
73ATL_se0_ag1_m_0578.0069[Yes, sir.]78.7957
74ATL_int_0179.0484So, um,80.0266
76 80.5989is it cool to assume that you been living in Georgia83.1510 
78 83.2851predominantly84.1407 
80 84.2217your whole life?84.9556 
81ATL_se0_ag1_m_0585.1670I have.85.9132
82ATL_int_0186.2792Great, great, great. Okay, so, um,88.9087
84 91.0793growing up in Georgia,92.8773 
86 93.3413you know,93.8501 
88 93.9824let's start with maybe95.7440 
90 96.7957middle school or something like that. What was, um,99.6807 
92 99.7597growing up in middle school in Decatur, Georgia or wherever103.1257 
94 103.2804you was in Georgia in particular?104.9546 
95ATL_se0_ag1_m_05106.0528How was it growing up in middle school?107.7387
96ATL_int_01107.7312Yeah, what school you went to?108.8009
97ATL_se0_ag1_m_05109.0430Um, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School.110.8618
98ATL_int_01110.9851[Okay.]111.4254
99ATL_se0_ag1_m_05111.0679[U- um],111.9220
100 112.9757uh, I would say, you know, life in there was- was cool as a African American male. Um,117.8621
102 118.3983I'd say it was more not tailored towards, uh, I wish education just in school-wise would've been a little more,125.0221 
104 125.5016um, I guess hands on. We would've learned a lot of more.128.5783 
106 128.9134 Um, we-129.5395 
108 129.6854I wouldn't say-130.6664 
110 131.3830I definitely wouldn't say we were passed along, but we could've been, uh,134.7587 
112 135.4599you know, ha-136.2178 
114 136.6922<exhale> what is the words? We could've been138.7442 
116 139.0638tightened down on a little more, but I think we still got good knowledge and understanding.143.3366 
118 143.5790Um, a lot of real world situations came in at the time.147.2382 
120 147.5527Um,148.2281 
122 148.9448just going to the middle school that I went to, /and it/ made people kind of look at things in life differently.153.7535 
124 154.2436Um,154.8004 
126 155.2645but it w- it was- you know, we weren't- it wasn't the hood, but it was majority African Americans.160.6200 
128 160.8932Um, so it was like the a- it was like the middle class. The middle class at that point in time was-165.4909 
130 165.8105I'd say was still around in the early two thousands. Um, now it's kind of fading to more170.6762 
132 171.0732either poverty or rich. Um, I'd say that was probably the last days of the middle class. So,175.6207 
134 176.0421um,176.6579 
136 176.7603m- like I said, it was just kind of being a middle class African American,180.4297 
138 180.6978you know, you had a lot of people who went e- either way, either they went up to the upper class or they went to the lower class.186.2544 
139ATL_int_01186.5895Mm.186.9710
141 187.5265That's- that's very very interesting cause189.7950 
143 190.4756I be feeling that way sometimes personally192.7957 
145 193.2546just from my life like, dang, maybe like195.2795 
147 195.8208almost ten, twenty years ago, things looked totally different than the way they look kind of right now.201.4238 
149 202.1108[Um],202.7764 
150ATL_se0_ag1_m_05202.1507[Yeah, that quick.] Correct.203.3058
151ATL_int_01204.4039and I didn't know that that's how205.9034
153 206.2792it was rocking over in /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle.208.6303 
155 209.0943M- so209.7130 
157 209.9760was that school kind of, um,211.6052 
159 212.1710fairly new at that time?213.9239 
160ATL_se0_ag1_m_05214.1302[Oh, no.]214.6767
161ATL_int_01214.2642[Or has that] al- always been [around?]216.0378
162ATL_se0_ag1_m_05215.9141[Nah], that school was very old. Uh, that sc- /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School's been up, I know it, probably since like the sixties at least,222.0945
163ATL_int_01222.3163[Wow.]223.0381
164ATL_se0_ag1_m_05222.4400[maybe the seventies.] So yeah, that school is very old. Um,225.5115
165ATL_int_01225.6198Mm-hm.226.1044
166ATL_se0_ag1_m_05226.7231Yeah, definitely was a aged school.228.4812
167ATL_int_01228.8525Okay, but, um, you left230.5834
169 231.2331old ass /RD-SCHOOL-3/ School to end up going into like234.3743 
171 234.4673new facility /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School?237.3671 
172ATL_se0_ag1_m_05237.8157Um, well I w- originally /went in to/ /RD-SCHOOL-2/ because /RD-SCHOOL-3/ wasn't built at the time.241.9802
173ATL_int_01242.1658[Mm-hm.]242.5370
174ATL_se0_ag1_m_05242.4030[Um], so when I did go into high school, yes, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School.245.8213
175 246.1255Um, it was a brand new facility. I would say, um,249.0681
177 249.2898it definitely was a new vibe. Uh, we had a- we had a interesting principal when I first started,253.8218 
179 254.0936a man by the name of Dr. /RD-NAME-2/.255.9188 
181 256.3416Um,257.0290 
183 257.1024definitely he- he kind of259.1567 
185 260.0293embodied what now I wish that more of- of the b-263.3573 
187 263.8780the educators would have kind of266.2895 
189 266.7329went towards. Um, I do understand, you know, he was very tough, very, uh, strict in what he did.272.1452 
191 272.5061But now just being a- a eld- not a elderly man cause I'm definitely not elderly, but being a older man, I kind of see where his message was going at the time,280.0838 
193 280.4189kind of just tried to get our heads on straight. Um, we did a lot of different things that most schools in DeKalb County didn't do.285.7590 
195 286.1250Um, it was because of the fact that I do see now too as well, um, when I first started /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School,291.5373 
197 291.9291it was actually, um, only ninth and tenth graders there.294.3523 
199 294.7442So he was able to handle a less amount of kids. He didn't have the typical299.6563 
201 300.1770a thousand,301.5072 
203 301.6708fifteen hundred high school in DeKalb County. He maybe only had305.3006 
205 305.7182three to four hundred kids that he could control.308.0266 
207 308.3720Um, and it kind of- it started off as good because the majority of the people that I know that did last,313.4248 
209 313.7550um, that started from the beginning, you know, are doing something with their selves.316.9413 
211 317.3177But then, you know, it just kind of got-319.4972 
213 320.1726that whole thing seemed to get- kind of got washed by the wayside, and it just kind of turned into the area324.6516 
215 324.9610more than just the greatness of the school.326.5490 
216ATL_int_01327.1213Wow, okay.328.5278
218 328.6429See, um,329.4105 
220 329.9711it's been a while since I personally been331.8325 
222 331.9243back to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, almost probably about ten years now.334.7093 
224 335.1636[So]335.5114 
225ATL_se0_ag1_m_05335.3723[Mm.]335.6117
226ATL_int_01336.0278I w- I would defer to you f- as far /as/ knowing,338.7243
228 338.9099you know, how the kids and that culture340.9413 
230 341.4362is over there right about now.343.3528 
231ATL_se0_ag1_m_05343.9356Um, yeah. I actually- because I DJ as well, um, I work actually with, uh, one of the348.5227
233 348.6826g- uh, she was a previous coach over there, Coach /RD-NAME-2/.351.5080 
235 351.8379Um, I actually DJ a lot of the, uh,354.0381 
237 354.6723talent shows, and, um, I've actually done some things for the basketball team,358.4102 
239 358.8536um,359.5084 
241 359.8023music-wise. So I do still go up there occasionally. I haven't been up there maybe in about a year or two now,364.6474 
243 364.9104um, but just kind of keeping my ear to the streets. Um, I have friends368.2603 
245 368.5387who have kids who are,370.3329 
247 370.6165um, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School, and, you know, they just kind of said the culture's just completely different375.6626 
249 376.0184from-376.4300 
251 376.5393they didn't- they don't- but of course they wasn't there to know what our culture was. But them telling me the culture of what it is now,382.1885 
253 382.5598it's completely different from how it was when I was in school.385.4154 
254ATL_int_01385.8227Mm.386.1424
256 386.3538Okay.386.8848 
258 387.4918Just to, um, segue away from the school system for a second,391.3020 
260 391.7351um,392.4775 
262 393.5588tell me a little bit394.8323 
264 395.6521about396.1574 
266 396.4203your parents. Like where were they born and raised?398.5895 
267ATL_se0_ag1_m_05398.8937Uh, my mother was born in Cleveland. My dad was born in402.4152
269 402.7709Detroit. Um, both of them met in Cleveland,405.2753 
271 405.6826and they moved down to Atlanta.407.2603 
272ATL_int_01407.7655Okay, that's what I'm talking about. So409.8949
274 410.5548they was up in there living the good life up in Cleveland and Detroit,414.5801 
276 415.3535and they came down to old417.1618 
278 417.9558Georgia.418.6467 
279ATL_se0_ag1_m_05418.9368[ATL.]419.6118
280ATL_int_01418.9834[Or-]419.1993
281 419.6472or was the good life-420.7708
283 420.8562was it that- that good of a life up in Cleveland and423.4570 
285 423.5694Detroit cause I know it's- it's kind of different425.8635 
287 426.3688all around.427.0803 
288ATL_se0_ag1_m_05427.1713[Um],427.6935
289ATL_int_01427.2257[Did you b-]427.7309
290 427.8070did you ever ask about that?429.1825
291ATL_se0_ag1_m_05429.3938I mean, I've asked. My parents are divorced, so of course I can't ask questions that- for them to be together so much.435.1006
292ATL_int_01435.1223Mm-hm.435.4803
293ATL_se0_ag1_m_05435.6001Um, but from what I was told, I mean, Cleveland is just very cold.439.2195
295 439.4979[Um, it did] not have a lot of progressing things going on at the time.443.4031 
296ATL_int_01439.6886[<laugh>]440.1166
297 443.4361Mm.443.6434
298ATL_se0_ag1_m_05443.7012Um, I think they came down in like the late eighties, mid eighties,448.4044
300 448.8684maybe- maybe even early seventies, probably like451.7144 
302 452.1939in the eighties some time, /though/.453.5382 
304 454.0796Um,454.7756 
306 455.3025and when they came down, Atlanta, Georgia was jumping. Um, Freaknik was just about to get started, you [know, the kind of-]461.1881 
307ATL_int_01460.5266[/Ay/, okay.]461.4665
308ATL_se0_ag1_m_05461.5387the- the times of Atlanta. It was nice and hot. The prices of living was cheaper.466.0486
310 466.3992Um, there were more jobs here. So that's kind of really w- it w- it- what it really was.470.5600 
312 470.8745Um, they kind of get n- wanted to get away from their family members, so474.0027 
313ATL_int_01474.2450[Mm-hm.]474.5647
314ATL_se0_ag1_m_05474.4100[they started] something brand new.475.7144
315ATL_int_01476.1785Ah, digging that.477.2495
317 477.3250So, um,478.0950 
319 478.5127you got any plans on479.9357 
321 480.1007what you gonna do with your481.3998 
323 481.4794family life as far as482.9610 
325 483.0236staying in the area or branching out485.1262 
327 485.2448from here?485.6624 
328ATL_se0_ag1_m_05485.7347Um, I would definitely say that I'm looking into branching out. Um, I'm currently a489.8579
330 490.2033single man, so I'm not491.8686 
331ATL_int_01491.9511[<laugh>]492.3430
332ATL_se0_ag1_m_05492.1935[worried] a- so much about family life at the moment.494.6270
333 494.8436Um, when that situation does come, um, of course I don't think I would definitely want them in this area.499.5752
335 499.9722Uh, definitely the- the- the- the501.3167 
338 502.5952East Atlanta area has definitely become a505.0751  
340 505.2762not so great area to raise a child.507.7341 
341ATL_int_01508.1622[Mm.]508.4559
342ATL_se0_ag1_m_05508.2075[Um], so I would say raising a child-wise, I'd definitely go511.6526
343 512.0253to another area. But, um, at that moment I don't have those issu- I don't have those type thoughts. So,517.0957
344ATL_int_01517.2813[Mm.]517.6526
345ATL_se0_ag1_m_05517.5185[um], family-wise, just it's something that's not really in my head at the moment.521.0076
346ATL_int_01521.2860Nah, cool, cool, cool.522.6214
348 522.8792Feel the same exact way524.0186 
350 524.5758<laugh> even though I do got a girl, still,526.6793 
352 526.8715you know.527.2369 
353ATL_se0_ag1_m_05527.2674Right, until- yeah, until other responsibilities are placed in.531.2578
354ATL_int_01531.3105Definitely, definitely.533.1932
356 533.5954What you call it again? Um,534.9978 
358 536.3744how about siblings?537.4970 
360 537.6774Do you have any?538.4095 
361ATL_se0_ag1_m_05538.8375Um, I have stepbrothers. Um, all of my brothers are older than me. My dad had previous kids,543.5163
362ATL_int_01543.5612[Mm-hm.]543.8672
363ATL_se0_ag1_m_05543.7671[um], before he had me.544.9509
364ATL_int_01545.0946[Mm-hm.]545.4008
365ATL_se0_ag1_m_05545.3015[Um],545.9614
366 546.2351three brothers, uh,547.6629
368 548.6270all of them are actually- well two of them are f- college football coaches, and one works552.9101 
370 553.3071in- uh,554.2506 
372 554.5033for the airport's555.9019 
374 556.2446aviation- some of the stuff with flying the planes. I- I don't know the exact title.560.4569 
375ATL_int_01560.8075Oh, okay.561.4731
377 561.5815And what's your, um,562.5591 
379 562.6880relationship with them?563.9139 
381 564.0287Cool? Not so cool?565.1473 
382ATL_se0_ag1_m_05565.6474Um, it's- it's alright. We have a relationship. Um, they're a lot older, so of course that b- uh, builds a rift in one.572.3486
383ATL_int_01572.5113[Mm-hm.]572.8523
384ATL_se0_ag1_m_05572.7972[Um], and then because of just family issues, how years go down the line, pe- of course people build rifts for so many other situations.579.1907
385 579.6083Um, but it's still all love. I still definitely love all of 'em.582.5729
387 582.9067Um, you know,583.7316 
389 583.9430whenever they need me, if they know they really need me, they can get in touch with me. But,587.3510 
391 587.7274um, just kind of how family life is. Like I said, I'm so worried ab-590.7042 
393 590.7887I'm not so- I'm so focused on592.8045 
395 593.2737what I got going on, the fact that they got they own lives in another state doing other things, um,598.4023 
397 599.1757you know, we just all individuals right now. They have a closer bond because they share the same603.3557 
399 603.6857mother and father, and they around the same age. Me, who's being the only child by my mother,608.0410 
401 608.4019um, and raised like a only child, I kind of just more to myself.611.6088 
402ATL_int_01611.9542That makes a lot of sense. I can dig that.614.1699
404 614.6442Let's see. Um,616.1084 
406 616.5209back-617.0310 
408 617.1545going back to the school thing, um,619.3295 
410 621.0979I guess more so622.1806 
412 622.4281high school. How did you get to school?624.7689 
413ATL_se0_ag1_m_05625.6594How'd I get to school? Um, well627.4640
415 627.7630because technically th- the area that I lived in was never /RD-SCHOOL-3/ area,631.4223 
416ATL_int_01631.5092[Mm.]631.9011
417ATL_se0_ag1_m_05631.7625[um], so632.8659
418 633.1752it was close enough where I could get there in a short amount of time,637.2934
420 637.6079but it wasn't-638.4479 
422 638.5153that wasn't my school I was supposed to be in.640.7581 
423ATL_int_01640.9231[Mm.]641.2582
424ATL_se0_ag1_m_05641.1705[So] typically, um, my beginning years, um,644.2790
425 644.3763friends kind of- uh,645.9538
427 646.2528I was always a- I would say not a cool kid, but I always had friends who d-649.7681 
429 649.8658were in the right place at the right time.651.7218 
431 652.0311Um, kind of had, you know, people start picking me up654.4277 
433 654.4980and taking me to school.655.6440 
435 656.0255Um, I wasn't never too far /cau-/ f- of some days moms would pick me up and take me.660.4647 
437 660.8242Um, once I got to about like the tenth, eleventh grade though, it was just about time to take MARTA.664.9695 
439 665.2582[Um, I took] MARTA for I'd say maybe667.7986 
440ATL_int_01665.5257[/??/]665.9719
441ATL_se0_ag1_m_05668.4998all of my eleventh grade year.670.3559
443 670.7271[Um], and then, uh,672.6039 
444ATL_int_01670.9231[Wow.]671.2788
445ATL_se0_ag1_m_05672.9428tenth grade- I mean, excuse me, when I was a senior,675.0463
446ATL_int_01675.1175Mm-hm.675.3817
447ATL_se0_ag1_m_05675.3931of course I did what every senior in high school does. I got me my own car and-678.6554
448ATL_int_01678.7520[<laugh>]679.6594
449ATL_se0_ag1_m_05679.1542[n- <laugh> and] it was on from there.680.7731
450ATL_int_01680.8762Okay. That was a pretty682.4384
452 683.0107good question then cause I n- I don't know. I- a lot of people just be like, oh yeah, I just took the cheese bus.687.8816 
453ATL_se0_ag1_m_05688.1755Uh, I mean, I t- I689.3032
455 689.4661t- I took the cheese, but the cheese was m-692.1299 
457 692.1900was more in- like when I was younger, [like middle school] and high school.695.9594 
458ATL_int_01694.5061[Definitely.]695.1462
459 696.0989[Mm-hm.]696.4779
460ATL_se0_ag1_m_05696.2720[Actually] in middle school I could walk to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle school, so I never really had to take the cheese, but,700.8344
461ATL_int_01700.8800That's [convenient.]701.7016
462ATL_se0_ag1_m_05701.3652[yeah, the cheese] was just elementary school pretty much.703.8141
463ATL_int_01703.9482Nice, nice. Um,705.5155
465 705.9795did you have any, um, favorite subjects or-708.8823 
467 709.4893or some subjects you didn't like711.1747 
469 711.3595as much?712.1188 
470ATL_se0_ag1_m_05712.1856Um, I was always a social studies and science person. I love social studies and science, knowing about the history717.4330
472 717.7424and knowing about like, uh, you know, the719.9336 
474 720.7675p- t- stuff with plants, life,722.8504 
476 723.1649um, you know,724.0105 
478 724.4075biospheres, uh,726.4492 
480 727.0820different- the rainforests, deserts. I've always just like interested in stuff like that. Um, language arts,732.5162 
482 732.7726I mean, I can read very well, but I just wasn't the-735.4691 
484 736.1548I didn't like the literature that they had us reading, so [I think that's more what made] me didn't like language arts.741.4176 
485ATL_int_01738.8702[Mm.]739.9641
486ATL_se0_ag1_m_05741.8249Um, and math, I just never- never been the best at math, so746.3348
487ATL_int_01746.5601[Mm.]746.8860
488ATL_se0_ag1_m_05746.6475[it wasn't] my favorite subject, but,748.3250
489 748.5673hey, I got B's and C's, so I got [enough to pass.] (laughing)751.7161
490ATL_int_01750.7726[<laugh>]751.6079
491 752.0513Yeah, that's more than enough, for [real.]753.6185
492ATL_se0_ag1_m_05753.5343[Right.]754.1131
493ATL_int_01754.1800Let's see. Um,755.5727
495 757.3088this says friendship group. Is there a group of people760.4126 
497 760.7323you hang around761.6294 
499 761.7944with762.2326 
501 762.6644or whatever?763.2057 
502ATL_se0_ag1_m_05763.8296Um, yeah. I had multiple g- groups of friends. Actually, um, like I said, I was a-767.3159
504 767.4317kind of a767.9911 
506 768.0996g- a cool kid or whatever you could say. Um,770.6803 
508 771.3505I would play baseball, so I had a baseball, um,774.4698 
510 775.4274clique of folks that I hung around with. Um,778.0208 
511ATL_int_01778.1262[Mm-hm.]778.4900
512ATL_se0_ag1_m_05778.4178[as] well I just had some folks that I knew since middle school,781.2366
513ATL_int_01781.4996[Mm-hm.]781.8244
514ATL_se0_ag1_m_05781.6440[um], and kind of guys that I grew up with. I had that group of friends.785.2015
515 785.4954I had a group of friends that were just associated with the neighborhood that I stayed in.789.7114
517 790.1548Um, and then I would say I kind of just met friends organically throughout school.795.1804 
519 795.6135Um, so I had many groups of friends, but I would say the main people were the people who I played baseball with801.1288 
521 801.5104and the ones who I grew up with from the middle school.803.9285 
523 804.2430to the high school.805.0459 
524ATL_int_01805.6079Uh, cool, cool, cool. I guess, um,808.0999
526 808.1675you know, other than baseball, what would y'all do together?810.7740 
527ATL_se0_ag1_m_05812.0049The middle school friends?813.2732
528ATL_int_01813.4073[Uh, /unintelligible/]814.5518
529ATL_se0_ag1_m_05813.5722[I mean, the- talking about the baseball] friends?815.0726
530ATL_int_01815.2994middle school, high school a-816.8432
532 817.0060and- [and the- uh],817.9739 
533ATL_se0_ag1_m_05817.4999[Oh, just what] we would do.818.5772
534ATL_int_01818.7422[yeah.]819.1237
535ATL_se0_ag1_m_05818.9916[Um], I mean, we would kick it. We would chill. I have a group of friends, um, especially during the summer time, like we played baseball, so825.4537
536 825.7888literally we would kick it and watch baseball, the Braves, um,829.1851
538 830.0203uh, the whole day then get on the video game and play a while,833.2840 
540 833.6088um, go outside, you know,835.4171 
542 835.8657/it's-/ just enjoy the- enjoy the sunshine of course when we were younger.839.5366 
544 839.7789Um, once we got older, it start more of going to different places843.3557 
546 843.6496versus just being outside. But when we were outside in middle school and stuff- I mean, when we were in middle school,848.1595 
548 848.5308you know, you could just be outside, and you could find anything from851.4859 
550 851.5599playing a sport to852.8809 
552 853.6233kicking it on somebody's porch to855.8094 
554 856.5931doing a billion things. Um, once we got older, like I said, it was more859.8502 
556 860.1838going to the movies, going to the mall, uh,863.4335 
558 864.1553you know, different hang out spots, um,866.4534 
560 866.8246more than anything.867.7321 
561ATL_int_01868.0414Nah, definitely,869.0356
563 869.1860definitely feel you on that.870.8500 
565 871.3862Let's see. What about, um,873.1185 
567 873.6444your first job?874.8664 
568ATL_se0_ag1_m_05875.6346My very first job was at Red Lobster. I was a bus boy. The Red Lobster on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road.881.4644
569ATL_int_01881.7635[<laugh>]882.6798
570ATL_se0_ag1_m_05882.0264[Um, I] graduated high school,884.6906
571ATL_int_01884.7679Okay.885.2526
572ATL_se0_ag1_m_05885.4087and, uh,887.1912
574 888.5287it was just pretty much time for me to get a job. I had certain situations going on in life,892.6550 
576 893.0313um, where I needed some extra dollars in my pocket.895.7522 
578 896.0152I got my graduation money from high school. I was able to stack that up, get ready to go to college.900.5626 
580 900.9376So I worked, um, the summer of-904.7323 
582 905.2634what was that? Two thousand eight at Red Lobster on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road.907.7729 
583ATL_int_01908.1699Oh, cool, cool, cool.909.6908
585 910.2889So, um,911.2427 
587 912.5884we talking about /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Road.914.4750 
589 914.6322We talking about /RD-ADDRESS-3/.916.3198 
591 917.0726You know, this some917.9279 
593 918.0576born and raised type of stuff.919.9636 
595 921.7321Do you feel like, um, that East Atlanta area925.3088 
597 925.5099have a,926.2936 
599 927.2062um, particular type of dialect, and you can possibly tell931.2470 
601 931.5460who's from that area when they talk?933.5207 
602ATL_se0_ag1_m_05934.4694Um, I would say maybe because I've been here my whole life, m-939.1295
604 939.1966I can't940.0311 
606 940.5518because it sounds normal to me.943.0000 
607ATL_int_01943.1490[Mm-hm.]943.5563
608ATL_se0_ag1_m_05943.3965[Um], but I would definitely say that when I go to other states,946.9282
609 947.1190definitely people can tell that I'm from the South,949.7419
610ATL_int_01949.9585[<laugh>]950.4380
611ATL_se0_ag1_m_05950.1183[um, particularly] Atlanta. People [can kind] of really tell especially how- when, uh, you say Atlanta,954.2739
612ATL_int_01951.7612[/??/]952.1030
613ATL_se0_ag1_m_05954.7276[um, people kind] of know that, alright, he's from Atlanta if he say it like that.959.0056
614ATL_int_01955.3295[<laugh>]956.1905
615 959.0571Uh-huh.959.4812
616ATL_se0_ag1_m_05959.5249Um,960.3344
618 960.9634now,961.5562 
620 961.6636this side of town versus maybe like the west side, the south side, or the north side,966.2275 
622 966.6925I don't think it's a difference. Um, I just think the person may be more a little different versus the way they talk.972.1295 
624 972.5214Um, the west side do kind of got a real slang, hood976.4797 
626 977.2530very like,978.3461 
628 980.3606uh, real h-981.4017 
630 981.7542typical African American983.8047 
632 984.1553stereotyped /would/ of a Black man would be in Atlanta.987.3369 
633ATL_int_01987.3446[<laugh>]988.9592
634ATL_se0_ag1_m_05987.8368[Um],988.3714
635 989.2891[that's how they're- that's] the what- what sh- what people on the TV shows,993.1907
636ATL_int_01989.5216[/You think so./]990.2493
637 993.2749[Mm-hm.]993.5497
638ATL_se0_ag1_m_05993.5001[a] lot of times, that's kind of what that more portrays.996.9125
639 997.1600That side- now not saying that side hasn't built, um,999.9428
640ATL_int_011000.1438[Mm-hm.]1000.4480
641ATL_se0_ag1_m_051000.3243[great] people because shi- u- shit, the f-1002.6393
642 1002.8919previous mayor of Atlanta,1004.2943
644 1004.6191um,1005.3255 
646 1005.8153[Kasim Reed, he] went to I think Mays High School.1009.0466 
647ATL_int_011005.9166[/?/ /okay./]1006.8749
648 1009.2734[Mm.]1009.5570
649ATL_se0_ag1_m_051009.3611[Um], it was one of those high schools on the west side, so not to say that they don't have, you know,1013.8865
650 1014.2165very prestigious people, but at the same time, the typical person from there1018.0510
652 1018.4635has a very hood, slang, country dialect.1021.3095 
653ATL_int_011021.5879Real heavy, right?1022.5263
654ATL_se0_ag1_m_051022.6139Very, very.1023.4337
655ATL_int_011023.5523I- I- I think that's very very famil- um, interesting1027.1291
657 1027.3765because1028.2234 
659 1028.3039I done did a few folks1029.7061 
661 1029.8063from the East Atlanta area,1031.3967 
663 1031.9364and, um,1032.9366 
665 1034.2448you're here born and raised. I'm here born and raised and stuff like that,1037.5342 
667 1038.0034but I don't1038.7201 
669 1039.0243necessarily think I have the most1041.3307 
671 1041.4379Atlanta,1042.2814 
673 1042.5237you know,1043.0198 
675 1043.1114dialect in some- certain people eyes and stuff like that. When I go out of town,1047.1419 
677 1047.7348or if I'm just around certain people, they might be like,1050.2354 
679 1050.6994where you from? I'm from Atlanta.1051.7911 
681 1052.8377/What/, really?1053.6781 
682ATL_se0_ag1_m_051054.0906[Right.]1054.4206
683ATL_int_011054.2195[<laugh>] I'm like, yeah, nigga, what the fuck?1056.0859
684 1056.5456[But, um],1057.4056
685ATL_se0_ag1_m_051056.6557[Hm.]1056.8370
686ATL_int_011058.1623I d- I- I- I get what you're saying with the west side,1061.2886
688 1061.3569you know, not to stereotype, but it do seem like, you know,1064.3582 
690 1064.8635theirs come out a little bit more1066.7712 
692 1067.2197than others1068.2251 
694 1068.8541at times and stuff like that. What do you- what do you even think,1072.0346 
696 1072.1370just if you had to1073.3435 
698 1073.8693take a stab at it, is the reasoning1075.7175 
700 1075.8157behind1076.4665 
702 1076.6470all of that?1077.1728 
703ATL_se0_ag1_m_051077.9153Uh, I mean, I-1079.0105
705 1079.0749the- the level of income. The west side is typically the poorer place. Um, [the original-]1083.6086 
706ATL_int_011083.0125[Mm.]1083.5424
707ATL_se0_ag1_m_051083.9308the original projects of Atlanta, the Bowen Homes, the1087.3903
709 1087.7705Fourth Wards, Mechanicsville, all that stuff is the west side of Atlanta, or a least where the west side of Atlanta begins to start.1094.4149 
710ATL_int_011094.7758[Mm-hm.]1095.0852
711ATL_se0_ag1_m_051094.9099[Um],1095.4977
712 1095.9359so a lot of that poverty1098.7097
714 1098.9933raised a certain amount o- a certain a-1101.4461 
716 1102.1009type of people. Again, the east side1104.0034 
718 1104.5396was more1106.0798 
720 1106.5593middle class than the west side, uh,1109.2506 
722 1109.5084so you had a c- a few more people who-1112.0334 
724 1113.0904who I would say went more proper, took the business route a little more, [um, saw a little] more life, saw a little more outside of two-eighty-five1120.1909 
725ATL_int_011116.9793[Mm.]1117.5485
726ATL_se0_ag1_m_051120.4230at a earlier age than versus the west side people.1123.4480
728 1123.7316So the west side people were typically1125.7321 
730 1126.1703like I said, just the more hood, the more-1128.4337 
732 1130.1338the more that way because there's just- that's the m- that's the p- that's the pri- uh, cost of living around there. It was a lot of hoods, a lot of projects,1136.3658 
734 1136.7112a lot of1137.6393 
736 1139.7996crazy stuff going on on that side of town.1141.9636 
737ATL_int_011142.6081That's- um,1143.4691
739 1144.6601that's interesting that you said the- the two-eighty-five thing cause, um,1148.5720 
741 1150.3044um, somebody1151.2000 
743 1151.2712sent me, um,1152.4595 
745 1152.7276a couple of tracks of their music,1154.4895 
747 1154.7215wanted me to engineer it and whatnot.1156.6395 
749 1156.8870Um,1157.4300 
750 1157.4300Um,1157.5149
751 1157.5149I said I'll check it out.1158.5575
753 1159.1078Really didn't have time to, but I l- I let him know.1161.3026 
755 1161.4113But, um, as I'm checking out the music,1163.6191 
757 1164.9276um, I'm giving1166.0427 
759 1166.1169them my little feedback1167.2839 
761 1167.3973or whatever. And basically1168.7791 
763 1169.4531word for word this is what I said.1170.9844 
765 1171.6701Checked out all the tracks,1173.2839 
767 1173.5159and they sound good.1174.6605 
769 1174.8976You're talented.1175.7057 
771 1176.3502My only critique from you1177.9073 
773 1178.2063from what I heard1179.2065 
775 1179.6602is that1180.2222 
777 1180.8667it sound like you haven't spend a day outside of I-two-eighty-five.1184.4022 
778ATL_se0_ag1_m_051184.8508Mm.1185.2890
779ATL_int_011185.7324<laugh> And bruh laughed. He was like, appreciate it. I'm- I'm tryna work on that,1188.9586
781 1189.2834you know.1189.7170 
783 1189.8126But, um,1190.5775 
785 1191.2117which it's nothing wrong with that,1192.7069 
786ATL_se0_ag1_m_051193.3702[Right.]1193.7438
787ATL_int_011193.4867[but, you] know.1194.2110
788ATL_se0_ag1_m_051194.8452We- we just in Atlanta, I think because one,1198.2635
790 1198.6141um, I think it's the Mecca right now of African American1202.1908 
792 1202.5053urban culture.1203.5623 
793ATL_int_011203.6977[Mm-hm.]1204.0487
794ATL_se0_ag1_m_051203.9190[Um], so we feel that1206.6183
795 1206.8214because it's like a- it loo- it seems like it's a melting pot which it is1211.1967
797 1211.4325a melting pot of so many places down here in Atlanta.1214.1083 
798ATL_int_011214.2488[Mm-hm.]1214.5553
799ATL_se0_ag1_m_051214.4486[Um],1215.1447
800 1215.5056people feel that if you can- if you s-1218.3966
802 1219.1442if you sound like what's hot- what's Atlanta quote unquote hot,1222.9956 
804 1223.2740then you s- then you'll- it'll be what the rest of the world, like it'll be what /it-/ whatever,1227.3096 
806 1227.6705which we have to understand especially as people who are doing, uh,1231.2989 
808 1231.4690uh, art1232.2888 
810 1232.5363cause that's what music is. You just being creative and doing your art.1235.5665 
812 1235.9738Like1236.3966 
814 1236.6699your art gotta be bigger than that. You don't want just1239.9438 
816 1240.2480the people in- /insi-/ i- in Atlanta to buy your music even if you say Georgia,1245.0622 
818 1245.3560you have people across the world just- I mean, I understand that folks maybe like the Migos1249.8505 
819ATL_int_011249.8970Mm-hm.1250.1910
820ATL_se0_ag1_m_051250.2218and Future, um, but they have a style that they kind of created on there.1254.1182
822 1254.6183And I wouldn't say that some of it hasn't been1256.7631 
824 1258.4491/?/1258.6536 
826 1258.7596a t- stolen, or1260.6183 
828 1261.1854copied a little bit from other people,1263.0322 
830 1263.2461but their style and their flow is their own and that's kind of what-1267.1184 
832 1267.9124they're the more Atlanta-1269.5262 
834 1269.8407they're the originators right now sadly enough.1272.2007 
836 1272.4585[Um],1272.9431 
837ATL_int_011272.7833[<laugh>]1273.5515
838ATL_se0_ag1_m_051273.5876Future has his own lane. [Uh, the Migos] have their own lane.1277.7263
839ATL_int_011275.6682[/??/]1276.2137
840ATL_se0_ag1_m_051277.9893T.I. has their- his own lane.1279.8660
842 1280.2372Um, I'm a-1281.3921 
844 1281.6035OutKa- well, people don't really go to the OutKast [lane too much these days.]1285.2215 
845ATL_int_011283.8243[They don't, but they-] that's as Atlanta as it [gets.]1287.0725
846ATL_se0_ag1_m_051286.9797[Right], [because the- right, and] Kilo Alis and the Pa- and well not Pastor Troy cause he's definitely not Atlanta. He's more g- he's Augusta.1293.9851
847ATL_int_011287.3303[/unintelligible/]1288.6914
848 1294.1838[Mm-hm.]1294.5360
849ATL_se0_ag1_m_051294.3872[Um],1294.7894
850 1295.0781but those originators from- originally from Atlanta, that's kind of where-1299.1034
852 1300.0572because you- you do see it where Future, you know, th- hi- he kind of- it's more musical.1304.9797 
854 1305.2478He has a lot of great production. He has a lot of great beats. He [raps on so many different] things. Right,1310.5878 
855ATL_int_011308.6543[Dungeon Family.]1309.8684
856ATL_se0_ag1_m_051310.7528because he gets if from that Dungeon Family,1312.6811
857ATL_int_011312.7413[Mm-hm.]1313.0651
858ATL_se0_ag1_m_051312.9183[from] the Kilo Ali days, from the days when Atlanta was more,1316.6961
859 1317.0003um,1317.5777
861 1318.8822I would say it was definitely lyrical, but it was definitely a vibe. It was a beat. It was a feel.1323.8613 
862ATL_int_011324.0589Mm-hm.1324.3811
863ATL_se0_ag1_m_051324.3886Um,1325.0008
865 1325.5923and even1326.3620 
867 1326.4561to go all the way down to the Migos, um, they still now are definitely even more progressing.1331.3410 
869 1331.6490They have that young urban culture.1333.7938 
871 1334.2269They got that kind of1335.5959 
873 1335.6604already swag with them, but you can see now that they're getting a little older, they're making more music,1339.9279 
875 1340.2321it's becoming to sound more1341.8922 
877 1342.1088musical, more instruments, more- um,1345.5412 
879 1345.9794more thought out than just trapping out the bando.1348.5934 
880ATL_int_011349.0678Nah, I- I- I definitely definitely agree on that.1352.1702
882 1352.7683You know,1353.3580 
884 1353.5475um,1354.2377 
886 1354.8976I like to say,1355.8295 
888 1356.2110you know, people been /Atlantanized/1358.0001 
890 1358.2321for real for real, especially just1359.7994 
891ATL_se0_ag1_m_051359.8384Right.1360.1274
892ATL_int_011360.3305all over the world.1361.4479
894 1361.9893Do you feel like, um,1363.7629 
896 1365.3406the influence of the music alone1368.5358 
898 1369.2370is affecting,1370.3764 
900 1371.0106you know, the people around in the area that talk this way, or do you think it's the people around this area talking of- this way that affected the music1378.5780 
902 1378.9131to be1379.4170 
904 1379.7057in that type of1380.6441 
906 1381.1751space?1381.9485 
907ATL_se0_ag1_m_051382.3919Um, I definitely think that how the people are1386.1233
909 1386.5564affected1387.4845 
911 1387.9124the music because that's really what this area is.1391.5871 
913 1392.0254But I think that when it comes to music,1394.8869 
915 1395.2942it's more of what got pushed more1398.4946 
917 1398.7627than certain things. It's not that there's other people in Atlanta1402.3769 
919 1402.6811who are not making trap music that are great artists, that make great music,1407.1962 
921 1407.5984but it's not getting that constant radio push. It's not getting that constant,1411.6804 
923 1412.0310uh, you know,1412.7271 
925 1412.7918videos and things like that. Um,1414.9492 
927 1415.3757which at this point in time now so understandable cause it's- it's almost like it's- it's function is-1420.2119 
929 1420.5625is already placed in our head that1422.4585 
931 1422.7266that's what we- that's what we gonna enjoy.1424.8423 
933 1425.0802We get1425.5726 
935 1426.0624sucked in by the TV and all the stuff.1428.7472 
937 1429.0617Um,1429.7216 
939 1430.3919so it's kind of that.1431.8369 
941 1431.9116I will say that words are very powerful,1434.7575 
943 1435.0462um, and especially in African American culture,1437.5829 
945 1437.9696um, we tend to-1439.9326 
947 1441.4123<ts> we tend to move towards people who give strong words,1445.2998 
949 1445.6335um, whether it be1447.0256 
951 1447.3556a Martin Luther King, a Malcolm X, a President Obama,1450.6862 
953 1450.8770a Future,1451.6748 
955 1452.0254um,1452.6647 
957 1453.0875whoev- if- if y- if- if we can feel your words, that's kind of where the group of the people go from even Earth, Wind and Fire.1460.0104 
959 1460.4524People really felt those words, so1462.7894 
961 1463.1193that's the kind of words that the people1466.0361 
963 1467.4437of the times are d- are- are-1469.2689 
965 1470.1594are moving towards, so that's what the times look like.1472.7631 
966ATL_int_011474.4027Wow.1475.0678
967ATL_se0_ag1_m_051475.4325It was a lot of love- think about it, in- in the seventies and eighties, it was a lot of love music,1480.1449
968ATL_int_011480.3697[Mm-hm.]1480.6759
969ATL_se0_ag1_m_051480.4388[so] of course there was a lot of more love. Don't get me wrong, seventies and eighties had its time with1484.6652
970 1485.0209the drugs and, you know, a lot of crazy stuff going on,1488.3709
972 1488.5925um, just with- especially with this time in America.1490.8456 
974 1491.1756But it was-1492.1397 
976 1492.5522killings were going on, but it was a more peaceful time. You didn't have to worry about,1496.3713 
978 1496.7270you know, uh,1497.4540 
980 1497.9283a nine- a nine year older-1499.8346 
982 1500.2729a nine n- excuse me, nineteen year old going into a church, going [into-]1504.1758 
983ATL_int_011503.9235[Ah], [yeah.]1504.6385
984ATL_se0_ag1_m_051504.3975[shooting] up a concert, doing- you know.1506.3760
985 1506.5874Now you did have some crazily racially based things,1509.5541
986ATL_int_011509.5575Mm-hm,1509.8687
987ATL_se0_ag1_m_051509.8789um, that [were-]1510.9956
988ATL_int_011510.5663[t-]1510.7313
989ATL_se0_ag1_m_051511.3912you know, we- we do understand that that's what the times were, and it- it definitely isn't right. But1516.4645
990ATL_int_011516.5522Mm-hm.1516.9595
991ATL_se0_ag1_m_051518.1449I just think that thi- these times are more violent because of things like that. It- i- it's- it's the music. It's the s- it's the different things like that,1525.2937
993 1525.6237um,1526.2424 
995 1526.7941when it comes to that much.1527.8562 
996ATL_int_011528.4439So, um,1529.3757
998 1530.1646you know,1530.7936 
1000 1532.0671you got a interesting, um,1533.7427 
1002 1534.5264job being a DJ,1536.2625 
1004 1537.5824and you got those feelings of what you feel like1540.4336 
1006 1541.3551how the music could affect people and what you like to listen to and1544.9023 
1008 1545.4128what they might1546.1365 
1010 1546.2184ha-1546.5769 
1012 1546.6490like to listen to. But I guess1548.6028 
1014 1549.0669I don't know. I don't wanna assume,1550.4280 
1016 1550.8353as a DJ1551.9438 
1018 1552.2738it's not about what you like or listen to.1554.3638 
1020 1554.5038It's about what1555.3917 
1022 1555.5670the people who-1556.5699 
1024 1556.6753what1556.9487 
1026 1557.3251supposed to like or whatever. What's your thoughts on1559.5000 
1028 1560.2058just that in particular?1561.5257 
1029ATL_se0_ag1_m_051561.7805Um, interestingly enough,1563.3973
1031 1563.5520I'm very biased when it comes to DJing.1566.1491 
1033 1566.4739Now don't get me wrong, I do understand that there are certain songs1569.7169 
1035 1569.9644that, um, just because they're hot they need to get played.1572.9947 
1037 1573.2937But,1573.7931 
1039 1573.9732I- whe- when I DJ, my goal is not to make you really listen1578.3811 
1041 1578.7730to the song so much. I want you to dance. I want you to feel the vibe.1582.6502 
1043 1582.9750So1583.6232 
1045 1587.1859I would say1588.2583 
1047 1588.5883the songs that are like, uh, s- for example, there's a guy named SixNine out of New York.1592.6291 
1049 1592.8714He's has a very hot song, but I've probably maybe played that song1596.4378 
1051 1596.7008once or twice ever in my life.1598.6652 
1053 1598.9023Um, and the two times that I did play it, I didn't get the vibe. I didn't get the feel.1602.8091 
1055 1603.1390Um, so I just don't play it anymore.1604.9333 
1057 1605.2993Uh,1606.0830 
1059 1606.5934and now, if there's a special request, or someone needed it, and they were paying me, of course I would play it.1611.3973 
1061 1611.7943But I just feel that1613.1090 
1063 1614.1092just because as- a-1615.4600 
1065 1615.7694we have a responsibility as a DJ to kind of curate what's going on1620.3773 
1067 1620.8465in the music culture. So if I constantly keep playing it,1623.7375 
1069 1624.0107that's the only reason that people are remembering it. [Like]1626.4495 
1070ATL_int_011626.3305[Mm-hm.]1626.6422
1071ATL_se0_ag1_m_051626.7227there's certain songs that-1628.1767
1073 1628.4241I mean, because especially Atlanta, we party from Monday to Monday.1631.9442 
1074ATL_int_011632.2496[Mm-hm.]1632.6207
1075ATL_se0_ag1_m_051632.2675[So] if you go out one night,1634.2952
1076 1634.5633you- you listening to s- music the next night, you on Instagram the next night,1639.1197
1078 1639.4548and,1640.2367 
1080 1640.3260uh, you done went out let's say a night after that as well too,1643.3616 
1082 1643.6761and then the other night you was working, and you was listening to the radio,1646.4551 
1084 1646.7218and every single night, you heard w- it just happened to be one song in particular,1650.9547 
1086 1651.2125um,1651.9137 
1088 1652.1921you're gonna constantl- that song is gonna get stuck with you [regardless of] how-1656.7640 
1089ATL_int_011655.8846[Mm-hm.]1656.2463
1090ATL_se0_ag1_m_051657.6714regardless of how much you don't want it to or n- on- or not. If you constantly listen to it,1662.4598
1092 1662.7176you will remember the words. You will remember the melody. You will remember the flow,1666.4954 
1094 1667.0677and it's either gonna stick to you one way or another. You either gonna like it, or you're gonna dislike it. Most people,1671.6138 
1096 1671.8767because it's all a similar flow,1673.7070 
1098 1674.0164like it, so1675.1249 
1099ATL_int_011675.3724Mm.1675.7797
1100ATL_se0_ag1_m_051675.9240if we sit up here and constantly keep playing the BS, then1679.8565
1102 1680.1143[eventually]1681.0166 
1103ATL_int_011680.1315[<laugh>]1680.5525
1104ATL_se0_ag1_m_051682.2024BS is what's gonna run. So that's why1684.7635
1106 1685.0213like I d- I- I personally- like I have no Famous Dex.1688.1303 
1107ATL_int_011688.4345[Mm.]1688.8057
1108ATL_se0_ag1_m_051688.5943[Um], I don't- I n- I ta- I have one Famous Dex song, that Pick It Up I think is actually pretty [dope.]1692.9135
1109ATL_int_011692.7161[Okay], I [like that.]1693.5284
1110ATL_se0_ag1_m_051693.3156[Um],1694.1199
1111 1694.3932I don't have many XXXTentacion. I have him on the Roll In Peace track.1697.9597
1113 1698.3702[Um],1699.1211 
1114ATL_int_011698.3930[/??/ good] on [that.]1699.5459
1115ATL_se0_ag1_m_051699.4124[SixNine], I don't. I- like I said, I have the one song of his,1703.0058
1116 1703.2533the Gummo, um, even though he has Billboard tracks.1706.0942
1117ATL_int_011706.2179[Yeah.]1706.5530
1118ATL_se0_ag1_m_051706.4241[Big] shoutout to them, you know. They're making money and doing whatever they should do in their crowd.1711.0682
1119 1711.3878Um,1712.0065
1121 1712.3365Billboard has to do with a lot of1714.0607 
1123 1714.2184people that are not African American,1715.9545 
1124ATL_int_011716.2535[Mm-hm.]1716.6248
1125ATL_se0_ag1_m_051716.3824[so] when it comes to that, you know, hey,1718.6317
1126 1718.7218that mean white people is loving your stuff. That doesn't mean our culture is loving your stuff.1722.3103
1127ATL_int_011722.4443Mm-hm.1722.8825
1128ATL_se0_ag1_m_051722.9238Um,1723.4497
1130 1724.0890so, like I said, I feel that1725.9489 
1132 1726.1860I- I- I feel like I'm gonna play what's gonna-1728.3360 
1134 1728.5938what I enjoy1729.4858 
1136 1730.0913[when I play] music. I- sadly enough, I'm very biased.1732.7171 
1137ATL_int_011730.1302[Mm.]1730.4675
1138 1733.1089Sadly enough, very biased. Um,1735.3105
1140 1736.9383Childish Gambino1738.4748 
1142 1738.6707and1739.3822 
1144 1739.7225CyHi the Prynce are both1741.4703 
1146 1741.9498Atlanta artists,1743.2608 
1147ATL_se0_ag1_m_051743.2719[Mm-hm.]1743.6498
1148ATL_int_011743.5273[probably] more so East Atlanta [artists],1745.8050
1149ATL_se0_ag1_m_051745.7796[Mm-hm.]1746.1762
1150ATL_int_011746.4391but when I listen to 'em1747.7534
1152 1747.8437and hear 'em talk,1748.9022 
1154 1749.2786I don't really hear,1750.5985 
1156 1750.8408you know, that Atlantaness. I'm- I'm hearing like some New York type of stuff coming from CyHi.1756.9285 
1158 1757.2481Childish Gambino, I'm hearing just some1759.1300 
1160 1759.7333extra left field, that don't [even sound] like a nigga that coulda possibly1763.1605 
1161ATL_se0_ag1_m_051761.1446[Right.]1761.4745
1162ATL_int_011763.3410been around the same trap area as some of these other people.1766.6716
1164 1767.3044What's your- what's your1768.5111 
1166 1768.6102thoughts on that or just to elaborate more on that?1770.8929 
1167ATL_se0_ag1_m_051771.2763Uh, again, I think it's m- it is the- that melting pot thing, and it's- and it's for us- us to understand that1776.8980
1169 1777.2071music is so much bigger. Like that is what's pushed on us.1780.9849 
1171 1781.2788There are-1782.3409 
1173 1782.7792you can listen to the radio right now in Atlanta, and there are probably at least five Migos songs played in a hour.1789.5732 
1175 1789.9083If [it's not a-] if it's not a Migos song, it's a song featuring a Migo.1792.8870 
1176ATL_int_011790.0991[<laugh>]1790.4122
1177 1793.2685[You gotta let me] check for [real /??/.]1795.2690
1178ATL_se0_ag1_m_051793.3458[S-]1793.8872
1180 1794.7173[Right, and- and] I mean it's- it's t- it's1796.3663 
1181 1796.4739probably gonna be like that. So1798.2992
1183 1798.8303when you have artists who are from Atlanta who sound different,1802.8917 
1185 1803.1804they just don't get that respect because1805.8924 
1187 1806.5884that's n- that's not what's being pushed. That's not what these big labels- because that's o-1811.0829 
1189 1811.3149that's the only reason your songs get honestly in rotation in- in hip hop which a lot of folks don't know.1816.3353 
1191 1816.6137It's coming down from these labels. These labels are paying1819.1504 
1193 1819.3911top dollar to these r- uh, radio exec companies1822.5879 
1195 1822.7529to the top DJ's, and the top DJ's are just sending the music out to their crew,1827.1443 
1196ATL_int_011827.4176[Mm-hm.]1827.7939
1197ATL_se0_ag1_m_051827.6289[and] they're playing the stuff. But it's these- it's the- the m- the Migos tracks, the Cardi B's tracks,1832.8710
1198 1833.1701the w- Future tracks, the whatever is hot at the time.1836.2636
1200 1836.9596And typically tracks like the- uh,1839.3557 
1202 1840.4229the Childish Gambinos and CyHis where it might be more1843.7485 
1204 1844.1661lyrical or might be more eclectic,1846.8148 
1206 1847.4077there's just- that's [not what] the [companies are tryna fund.]1850.1661 
1207ATL_int_011848.4337[/??/]1848.8256
1209 1849.2896[/unintelligible/] This what's playing on /nine forty-five/ right now.1852.5622 
1210ATL_se0_ag1_m_051854.1553Um, this is actually Jacquees. Tha- actually this guy's actually literally from the same street1858.3147
1212 1858.7581that, uh, was the same main street I was on- that I grew up on, /RD-ADDRESS-4/.1863.0670 
1213ATL_int_011863.3454[Oh wow.]1863.8558
1214ATL_se0_ag1_m_051863.5395[Um],1864.1858
1215 1864.6601m- so I definitely love the fact that, you know, he's out there. Um,1868.6081
1217 1868.9071he has a- he's been very talented since he was a kid actually,1872.6193 
1219 1872.9751um,1873.5732 
1221 1874.6803with his singing. So, um,1876.7478 
1223 1877.2530I definitely love the fact that that's a guy- like I said, I literally1880.2331 
1225 1880.6081p- saw him1881.6368 
1227 1881.7009at a wing spot when he was1883.3974 
1229 1883.9856thirteen, twelve years old with a group of other guys around, you know, singing to females,1888.6756 
1230ATL_int_011888.7839[Mm.]1889.2530
1231ATL_se0_ag1_m_051888.9746[him just] singing happy birthdays and stuff like that. So, um,1892.0062
1232ATL_int_011892.1609[That's tight.]1892.6189
1233ATL_se0_ag1_m_051892.3134[I definitely] love seeing that because I know1894.3765
1234 1894.6395that's he's on a larger scale right now.1896.5007
1235ATL_int_011896.6348It's tough for a singer out here right now1898.5537
1237 1898.6621I would think.1899.3299 
1238ATL_se0_ag1_m_051899.8403I would think it is too. I just think it's a- more about the content in what you singing. Um, a lot of- a l- you have to kind of1905.8403
1240 1906.0259still be hip hop. You gotta still sing about1908.9957 
1241ATL_int_011909.2793Mm-hm.1909.7021
1242ATL_se0_ag1_m_051909.8825sex, murder, drugs, and guns, [you feel what] I'm saying. [You can't] really-1914.2172
1243ATL_int_011912.3972[S-]1912.8045
1245 1913.4644[Yeah.]1913.7635 
1246ATL_se0_ag1_m_051914.6039nobody's really singing about love anymore because love is so-1918.2940
1247ATL_int_011920.0573Mm.1920.4337
1248ATL_se0_ag1_m_051921.1504love is so- is so1923.1482
1250 1923.2239cliche r- now.1924.4797 
1252 1924.7271So many people are falling out of love.1926.9905 
1254 1927.2380You got the whole gay thing, so you- you know, that's a whole different type of love,1931.9491 
1256 1932.2842um, so many divorces,1934.1197 
1258 1934.3967and it's not cherished anymore. It's kind of more like,1937.3201 
1260 1938.1811alright, I'm more focused on my money or more focused on my life and my goals than-1942.8471 
1262 1942.9109than1943.5418 
1264 1943.7996being in love because being in love1945.8825 
1266 1946.7576doesn't seem to get people far these days, /it/ doesn't bring [people happiness.]1950.4801 
1267ATL_int_011949.6397[<laugh>]1950.1656
1268ATL_se0_ag1_m_051950.7843What brings people happiness is money,1952.4586
1270 1952.7267[and]1953.4021 
1271ATL_int_011953.0979[Mm.]1953.5052
1272ATL_se0_ag1_m_051953.9795m- sadly enough it's running the world, so that's what's running1957.1194
1274 1957.4700music. That's what's running businesses.1960.0053 
1276 1960.3198Um, that's why you don't get a lot of, you know, just1962.7637 
1278 1963.1998people1963.8270 
1280 1963.9456giving out- I mean, think about it. Sprint charges you literally-1967.2066 
1282 1967.7635or Comcast, or these m-1969.2627 
1284 1969.3585people, you feel what I'm saying, literally hundreds and thousands and thousands of dollars,1973.2633 
1286 1973.5005and they never say, hey, you know what? You payed your bill sixteen months in a row1977.6650 
1288 1977.9734on time1978.8921 
1290 1979.1396no matter what. You know what? The least we can do is this month, we're gonna give you fifty percent off.1982.9484 
1292 1983.2268This month we gonna take them- the- you know, [take it off.]1985.8202 
1293ATL_int_011985.3922[Mm.]1985.9491
1294ATL_se0_ag1_m_051986.1656Because if the- if it was a love thing and if it was appreciation for me-1989.6341
1296 1989.8094[us doing business together],1991.3613 
1297ATL_int_011990.0029[Mm.]1990.8767
1298ATL_se0_ag1_m_051991.5727that's what would happen. Because that's what you would do business with anybody. After so long,1995.8713
1300 1996.0723you gonna be like, hey, you know what? Boom.1997.8460 
1302 1998.0419But that's not what1999.4855 
1304 2000.2279this country's built off. It's built off of- it's built off of money. It's ran off of money, so2004.6451 
1306 2004.9596if it ain't making dollars in they eyes, it just don't make sense. So-2008.1909 
1308 2008.6859and love don't make dollars.2010.1966 
1309ATL_int_012011.1040Oh man, just some-2012.4342
1311 2012.5424it was a lot of ways I coulda went with that, but2014.8354 
1313 2015.0726I'm- I'm gonna2015.8905 
1315 2016.0569go down this lane with it.2017.5164 
1317 2018.2279Love dollars-2019.5465 
1319 2019.9383but how do you feel about,2021.3871 
1321 2022.2790um, your experience within the Black community when it comes to business and clients and2028.1759 
1323 2028.6864patronizing them service-wise and I guess2032.0259 
1325 2032.7426as far as them paying2034.3409 
1327 2035.0730like how they wou- I guess pay Georgia Power with the rent or2038.5003 
1329 2039.0210some of these other people that might not really definitely don't have no type of love for them. What's your2043.5104 
1331 2044.2980[thoughts?]2044.7278 
1332ATL_se0_ag1_m_052044.3680[Um],2045.0360
1333 2045.1043I would just say we are very brainwashed in that sense on who we pay2049.3203
1335 2049.5832and the services that we allow. Um, it's kind of funny. Again on /RD-ADDRESS-4/,2053.4951 
1337 2053.8148there are multiple2054.7337 
1339 2054.8168fast food restaurants, horrible restaurants. I hate the f- hate that.2058.0412 
1340ATL_int_012058.4134[Yeah.]2058.7171
1341ATL_se0_ag1_m_052058.4555[But] there's one restaurant that's a Chick-fil-A on there,2061.2219
1342 2061.4638um, and that Chick-fil-A has probably got the most business2064.3454
1344 2064.7011probably out of anything on /RD-ADDRESS-4/ in all honesty. Probably even bigger than the grocery store. That Chick-fil-A might bring in the most [business.]2070.9125 
1345ATL_int_012070.8754[Damn], [/??/ I know-]2072.8820
1346ATL_se0_ag1_m_052071.7890[Um], yeah, you know, it- it [could- the grocery store might] be because it's the grocery store. But that Chick-fil-A probably brings in the most business,2078.6294
1347ATL_int_012073.8256[<laugh>]2074.8619
1348 2078.7377[Mm-hm.]2079.0780
1349ATL_se0_ag1_m_052078.9130[and] they have2079.6709
1350 2079.8494excellent service there.2081.2692
1352 2081.4961Now don't get me wrong. There's sometimes where,2084.2582 
1354 2084.6088you know, situations happen where, you know, this- just situations in the area that it's in.2088.9589 
1356 2089.5312But it's all about a choice cause it's a mind set.2092.5371 
1358 2092.8567Those same people that's working in that Chick-fil-A2096.3665 
1360 2096.8356are the same people that's working in the Taco Bell across the street. There's no difference in really2101.1600 
1362 2101.4333the hiring process or the, you know,2103.6915 
1364 2103.9596the qu-2104.2859 
1366 2104.4224the qualifications you have to have.2106.3815 
1367ATL_int_012106.4691[Mm-hm.]2106.8300
1368ATL_se0_ag1_m_052106.7424[But] because of2108.3201
1369 2109.0522how that standard of how that restaurant is ran,2112.5155
1370ATL_int_012112.6857Mm.2113.0827
1371ATL_se0_ag1_m_052113.4075people2114.2376
1373 2115.2790only expect certain stuff from that.2117.6189 
1375 2117.8762So if we kind of held their own- our- their own standard to our own businesses and stuff like that.2123.1506 
1377 2123.5153And a lot of things folks gotta understand, you feel what I'm saying, that2126.5469 
1379 2127.9338yes, i-2129.0114 
1381 2130.0463if we don't spen- if we don't spend our own dollar back, it doesn't matter2134.2380 
1383 2134.6453how much money we spend with the other folks because eventually we will be wiped out.2139.3358 
1385 2139.6657And that's kind of what it seems like they want us to do. And that's why a lot of Afri- well i- sadly enough,2144.4644 
1387 2144.7480a lot of African Americans with money,2146.7175 
1389 2147.0114they go move into another a- neighborhood because2149.8715 
1391 2150.0932the amount of money that's being recycled in a Black neighborhood2153.7164 
1393 2154.1031ain't nothing because the few Blacks that got a little bit of money,2157.2120 
1395 2157.5007they go to the white areas. They go to the- the north side of town to spend their money,2162.1860 
1397 2162.6397the s- uh, you know another side versus,2165.1970 
1399 2165.5204you know, us kind of saying, hey, let's build something on this side2168.9233 
1401 2169.1656and keep the money spending in our own neighborhood.2171.3878 
1402ATL_int_012172.2062Wow.2173.0981
1404 2173.4384You brought that shit2174.3855 
1406 2174.5258all the way down.2175.5007 
1408 2175.6245<laugh>2176.8464 
1410 2177.4689And I mean2178.3557 
1412 2179.0208from what I seen, it- it looks to be true2182.1246 
1414 2182.4494I mean I guess2183.3297 
1416 2183.6957I don't know. Chick-fil-A got some good branding when it comes to that cause2187.1575 
1418 2187.2385everybody just know a Chick-fil-A got some good ass service.2189.9845 
1420 2190.3093But I mean,2191.0466 
1422 2191.8612they real consistent with it,2193.3822 
1424 2193.7482um,2194.4494 
1426 2195.1248so it's not- you don't think it's more of a issue that the Black business2199.2790 
1428 2199.9441need to go above and beyond even more? Or is it the fact that2203.9701 
1430 2204.1336the-2204.6397 
1432 2205.2017the ec-2205.7244 
1434 2205.8542the- um,2206.7103 
1436 2206.8370they-2207.2496 
1438 2207.4026Black people are setting the bar too high for other Black people2210.8717 
1440 2211.3203as far as2212.3411 
1442 2212.7536they service and stuff that they don't even give that same type of consideration2217.1966 
1444 2217.5368to the white2218.2504 
1446 2218.3934or,2218.8211 
1448 2218.8946you know, other [categories?]2220.1185 
1449ATL_se0_ag1_m_052219.4586[I think that] we do kind of hold2221.8973
1450 2222.2324in our heads for whatever reason other2224.4546
1452 2224.6711businesses to a higher standard because there are businesses in2228.2066 
1454 2228.4593the East Atlanta area where-2230.2999 
1456 2230.6144um,2231.3001 
1457ATL_int_012231.6442Mm-hm.2232.0721
1458ATL_se0_ag1_m_052232.4897where, uh,2233.6601
1460 2233.9798Black businesses- where they are thriving. Um, there's one in particular, a seafood spot. It's actually a house2238.7939 
1462 2239.0363that they turned into a restaurant called Wats Crackin,2241.6503 
1464 2242.0266um, on Candler Road.2243.9329 
1466 2244.1739[It's a Black businesses that] brings in lots of money. It's constantly bunking from when it's open to when it's closed.2250.9022 
1467ATL_int_012244.2203[/inaudible/]2245.3505
1468 2250.9538Mm-hm.2251.2683
1469ATL_se0_ag1_m_052251.4539And2251.9685
1471 2252.2533because they give out /goo-/ g- good quality,2254.4958 
1473 2254.7021you know, there is a wait time a lot of the time but [people understand] that2258.6449 
1474ATL_int_012257.1858[<laugh>]2257.6653
1475ATL_se0_ag1_m_052258.8408because of the amount of people2260.6557
1477 2260.8980[that are there], right, and the quality of the food, the amount that they give you, the pricing is decently priced.2266.5010 
1478ATL_int_012260.9338[And the quality.]2261.8951
1479ATL_se0_ag1_m_052266.7639Like sometimes there is a wait,2268.4588
1481 2268.7991and- but people still line up for it every day.2271.6090 
1483 2271.8977So who's to say why can't that be2273.9999 
1485 2274.3196on every Black business? Why- you know, from seafood to-2278.1143 
1487 2278.4804to burgers joints to breakfast spots to-2282.3458 
1489 2282.8047uh, we can have our own Italian spots. We can have our own Mexican spots.2286.1855 
1491 2286.4382There a lot of2287.2169 
1493 2287.3998you feel what I'm saying, there are2288.3149 
1495 2288.7428o-2288.9027 
1497 2289.3048we- Chinese food ain't no secret into what is- is cooking. Like2293.4436 
1499 2293.9076i- half of it's n- probably not even real2296.3669 
1501 2296.5989chicken half the time anyway,2298.3660 
1502ATL_int_012298.5825[Yeah.]2298.8610
1503ATL_se0_ag1_m_052298.6650[and all] it is is a different seasoning, chicken, and some rice.2301.9699
1504 2302.1710You know, they have different lo meins and vegetables and stuff like that, but2305.6034
1505ATL_int_012305.9746[Anybody.]2306.4850
1506ATL_se0_ag1_m_052306.1860[we-] right, we can cre- we can do that. I n- I have a partner actually that went to high school with me,2311.2322
1507 2311.5003him and his dad own a Mexican restaurant.2313.6039
1509 2313.9029Um, and it's a very successful res- Mexican restaurant.2316.6186 
1510ATL_int_012316.6461I'm about to say, [we don't even] know who's actually behind there cooking that stuff. [/??/]2319.9596
1511ATL_se0_ag1_m_052317.1188[Uh],2317.4229
1513 2319.6296[right], [exactly, and lo- a- l-] I- well, the Chinese spots, a lot of 'em-2323.1399 
1514ATL_int_012320.4443[<laugh>]2321.1764
1515ATL_se0_ag1_m_052323.2979how they have it set up in Atlanta, you can see who's cooking it,2326.0598
1516ATL_int_012326.0813[Mm-hm.]2326.3943
1517ATL_se0_ag1_m_052326.3456[um], cause the- how that open2328.0630
1518 2328.1495format is, but2329.3875
1520 2329.7124I mean, like I said, it's a Mexican restaurant. It's nothing but African Americans that work there. [They make]2333.8615 
1521ATL_int_012333.5057[<laugh>]2334.6812
1522ATL_se0_ag1_m_052333.9638[good money], great money.2335.3875
1523ATL_int_012335.4391Yeah.2335.8774
1524ATL_se0_ag1_m_052336.9587So like I said, i- it's more of a mind thing, man. We kind of2340.5007
1526 2341.4494will- i- i- i- it's- it's a mental thing. We- we hold other businesses to a higher standard,2346.7637 
1528 2347.1555and we don't wanna give ours the benefit of the doubt.2350.0259 
1529ATL_int_012350.5106Mm.2350.8354
1531 2351.1499[Okay.]2351.6810 
1532ATL_se0_ag1_m_052351.2376[C-]2351.4129