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1DCA_int_030.4882What kind of games did you play when you were a child?2.6009
2DCA_se1_ag3_f_013.5167Oh, the usual childhood games,5.7553
4 5.9481hopscotch,6.8293 
6 7.1716uh,7.6674 
8 8.1110basketball,9.1063 
10 9.2834baseball,10.2029 
12 11.1719uh, kickball.12.6708 
14 13.2010Uh, we used to play uh,14.4403 
16 14.8888dolls,15.6285 
17DCA_int_0315.6403Mm.15.8881
19 16.4508Mm-hm.16.7498 
20DCA_se1_ag3_f_0116.7340dressing up.17.3675
21DCA_int_0318.0629Mm-hm.18.6255
22DCA_se1_ag3_f_0118.8891Uh,19.8451
24 20.4589used to like to hunt snakes21.8673 
26 22.2018and uh,22.9729 
28 23.3614catch bugs.24.2309 
29DCA_int_0324.6519Oh wow.25.3246
31 25.7732Well we've got a lot to talk about.26.9692 
32DCA_se1_ag3_f_0126.4656<laugh>26.6780
33DCA_int_0327.4059Well let's see, you started with hopscotch. Could you explain how hopscotch was played when you were a child?32.5432
34DCA_se1_ag3_f_0132.7477Well, uh, we used uh,34.6431
36 34.9500up to eight numbers,36.3427 
38 37.6991and we would either use a piece of glass or a small pen,41.7042 
39DCA_int_0341.9954Mm-hm.42.4321
40DCA_se1_ag3_f_0142.4714and42.8885
42 43.6390we would throw from one block to the other and try not to step in that block.47.9129 
43DCA_int_0348.0336Mm-hm.48.6159
45 49.4844Uh, let's see. What else did you say?51.5538 
47 52.9663Playing dolls, what kind of- how did you play dolls55.6406 
49 55.9160and such?56.4550 
50DCA_se1_ag3_f_0156.4078Well, I was fortunate57.9225
51 58.1429enough to have a doll house59.9005
53 60.7267that was built for me out in my back yard,62.9024 
54DCA_int_0362.9024Mm-hm.63.4453
55DCA_se1_ag3_f_0163.4808and the girls- little girls would come over65.5453
57 65.9151and uh, we'd bring our dolls over.68.1498 
58DCA_int_0368.7469Mm-hm.69.1285
59DCA_se1_ag3_f_0169.3292And we played.70.3717
61 70.5567We'd take the clothes off and give 'em a bath, [and]73.3186 
62DCA_int_0373.0982[Mm-hm.]73.6050
63DCA_se1_ag3_f_0173.9667feed 'em,74.5254
65 75.0251and two or three days later, <laugh>76.6696 
67 76.8073the food was really smelly.78.3093 
68DCA_int_0378.3812[<laugh> I can imagine.]80.3433
69DCA_se1_ag3_f_0178.7671[<laugh>]80.3945
70DCA_int_0380.4928/unintelligible/81.2993
72 81.7203Um, did you ever play Hide and Seek?83.7544 
73DCA_se1_ag3_f_0184.6544[Yes.]85.1343
74DCA_int_0384.9612[Okay], what was your version of Hide and Seek?87.1408
75DCA_se1_ag3_f_0187.9120<laugh> Oh boy! [<laugh>]91.5581
76DCA_int_0389.5044[<laugh>]90.3739
77DCA_se1_ag3_f_0191.5581Well, some days it was pretty good, and then some [days it was-] <laugh>95.2647
78DCA_int_0394.0279[<laugh>]94.8974
79 96.8016Uh, what- what was the best age?99.0442
81 99.7514For you w- when you were a child. What was your best age?102.4542 
82DCA_se1_ag3_f_01102.5369Between five and seven.105.2309
83DCA_int_03105.4434And why was that?106.3482
84DCA_se1_ag3_f_01107.4459Well, that was my uh, first time going out to school, and this was a big adventure.112.5084
85DCA_int_03112.4966Mm-hm.113.0592
86 113.8058Mm-hm.114.4195
88 114.6399Any other reasons?115.6352 
90 115.9185Did you have any responsibilities or anything like that?118.0391 
91DCA_se1_ag3_f_01118.9086No,119.4830
93 120.2689[uh,]120.9495 
94DCA_int_03120.4577[?]120.8315
95DCA_se1_ag3_f_01122.1731I would-122.6019
97 122.7397did get a chance to go a- a lot of places125.7592 
99 126.5589at that age, more so than I was-128.6087 
101 129.4024when I was older because130.9801 
103 131.4562uh, they had special rates for children.133.6122 
104DCA_int_03133.6673Mm-hm.134.1748
105DCA_se1_ag3_f_01134.4768And uh,135.2833
107 135.5823this meant a big saving for my family.138.1986 
108DCA_int_03138.3048Mm-hm.138.7691
110 139.7399Um, did you ever play Mother May I?141.8874 
111DCA_se1_ag3_f_01144.3037Mm, not too [much.]145.8961
112DCA_int_03145.6365[Is that] a Washington game?146.9151
113 147.9695More or less?148.7367
114DCA_se1_ag3_f_01149.1341Not to my knowledge, I don't think so.151.1396
115DCA_int_03151.4898Are there any games that you used to play that were153.3822
117 153.5553you know, more or less154.2753 
119 154.8959played here in Washington?156.2847 
120DCA_se1_ag3_f_01158.8381Well really, I don't [know.]160.5564
121DCA_int_03160.0299[That you know of.]160.6823
122DCA_se1_ag3_f_01160.8279I- I really couldn't say.162.5472
123DCA_int_03163.3813Uh-huh.163.8259
125 164.6162Um,165.1862 
127 166.1106did you ever play um,167.9205 
129 168.3769um,169.0339 
131 169.7018what's that game?170.5005 
133 170.7483Tag, I think. You know, Tag.172.3535 
134DCA_se1_ag3_f_01172.4991Yes.173.0342
135DCA_int_03173.1915Tag, now how'd you play Tag?174.8007
136DCA_se1_ag3_f_01175.6810Well,176.3184
138 176.9282the last ones that said, not it,178.7380 
140 179.7137they were the ones that had180.9323 
142 181.1448to tag someone else,182.8484 
143DCA_int_03182.8916Mm-hm.183.2890
144DCA_se1_ag3_f_01183.3638make them it,184.1703
146 184.8814And this went on and on and on,186.5771 
147DCA_int_03186.6440Mm-hm.187.0532
148DCA_se1_ag3_f_01187.0099until we got tired.188.0446
149DCA_int_03189.0479Now, when you're selecting the one who's gonna be it, did you ever have any192.4186
151 192.7334um, rhymes to say or194.9002 
153 195.1677any kind of chants or whatever?197.1074 
154DCA_se1_ag3_f_01197.1709No.197.7250
155DCA_int_03197.6679/You/ choose the one that's [gonna be it.]199.1689
156DCA_se1_ag3_f_01198.6968[We ain't] really have to say not it real quickly, [and the last one that] said it,202.5436
157DCA_int_03201.2532[/That's good./]202.1148
158DCA_se1_ag3_f_01203.0157they were [it.]203.6138
159DCA_int_03203.4367[Mm-hm.]203.8262
160 204.0544Mm-hm.204.4557
162 204.8334If-205.0734 
164 205.2662if you played, say on teams,206.9884 
166 207.3779how did you choose208.5818 
168 209.0854you know, who's going to be the captain or any-211.1539 
170 212.2004or who's going to be first, or something [like that.]214.1046 
171DCA_se1_ag3_f_01213.8607Uh,214.7538
172 215.5122usually, we would uh, either draw straws218.7147
174 219.5055or uh,220.6189 
176 220.8894the last hand on the bat if it was [baseball.]224.0919 
177DCA_int_03223.5805[Mm-hm.]224.0801
178DCA_se1_ag3_f_01225.3421Or we would um,226.9512
180 228.3776put,228.6033 
182 228.9026you know, make fists,229.8941 
183DCA_int_03230.3898Mm-hm.230.7036
184DCA_se1_ag3_f_01230.6377and do it in that fashion.232.0622
185DCA_int_03232.0622Mm-hm.232.4088
187 233.6701Mm-hm.234.1343 
189 235.0038Uh, let's see. What was another game you told me about?238.2526 
191 241.3833You /knew/ hopscotch-242.5518 
192DCA_se1_ag3_f_01242.9689[Basketball.]243.9800
193DCA_int_03243.0397[dolls, basketball,] okay.244.7550
194 245.0973Did you play it the girl's version or just boy's version or what?248.4248
195DCA_se1_ag3_f_01248.4012Well,248.9795
196 250.5021in my uh,251.4531
198 251.6893childhood, I was the only253.1883 
200 253.6014child254.2151 
202 254.4748period.254.9981 
204 255.6433So um,256.5156 
206 256.8266it was a lot of boys in my neighborhood,258.9983 
207DCA_int_03259.2855Mm-hm.259.7183
208DCA_se1_ag3_f_01259.7891and this seemed to be the same in uh,262.5146
210 263.5454the majority of the families at the time that I was growing up.266.4362 
212 266.5857There was just267.1837 
214 267.3017one child- /even if it/ was only one girl, so we had to play with the boys.271.7031 
215DCA_int_03271.6246Mm-hm.272.1596
216DCA_se1_ag3_f_01272.2068And I think it was about-273.4934
218 274.1032about274.4022 
220 274.5478four girls275.2835 
222 276.0418out of the whole bunch, so we played with the [boys.]278.3041 
223DCA_int_03277.8005[Mm-hm.]278.3119
224 278.5323Mm-hm. I did the same thing.280.1021
225DCA_se1_ag3_f_01280.1099<laugh>280.9401
226DCA_int_03281.1919Well what was um-282.4853
228 282.8512How was it playing basketball?284.6295 
230 284.7515/?/285.1882 
231DCA_se1_ag3_f_01285.5816Rough. [<laugh>]288.1143
232DCA_int_03286.2337[Rough. <laugh>]287.6225
233 288.6809Did you ever get to play the important290.2821
235 290.6087spots, uh, on the team, like292.4647 
237 292.8857center or anything like that?294.1604 
239 294.6561Or-295.0535 
240DCA_se1_ag3_f_01296.3351[uh hm]296.9607
241DCA_int_03296.5363[or did you just]297.0905
242 297.2912do well to keep up? [<laugh>]299.4039
243DCA_se1_ag3_f_01298.1056[Yeah, that's all.]299.4039
244DCA_int_03299.6596[Uh-huh.]300.3285
245DCA_se1_ag3_f_01299.6793[You know,]300.3363
246 300.5566we had to rock 'em and sock 'em.301.8825
247DCA_int_03301.9996Mm-hm.302.4441
249 302.6448Were you very athletic?303.6638 
250DCA_se1_ag3_f_01305.4224Oh, I was pretty rough306.7758
252 306.9362[to be a girl.]307.7506 
253DCA_int_03306.9834[Mm-hm.]307.4398
254 307.7702Mm-hm.308.2310
256 308.3291Hm.308.6161 
258 308.7223Mm-hm.309.1355 
260 309.6666Um,310.0561 
262 313.7062can you remember any- Did you ever jump rope?315.6969 
263DCA_se1_ag3_f_01316.0589Yes.316.5153
264DCA_int_03316.7700Okay, can you r-317.6671
266 317.8638remember any of those318.9772 
268 319.1424rhymes that you used to say while jumping rope?321.5227 
269DCA_se1_ag3_f_01322.6351Yes, um,324.2521
271 324.8791<ts>324.9412 
273 325.4482let me think.326.4357 
275 328.1343Gee whiz, can't uh-329.6984 
277 331.0379Oh, um,332.0451 
279 333.8145one we used to play was uh, down in Mississippi where the boat goes push.338.5162 
281 338.6732Used to play that.339.5223 
282DCA_int_03339.6324Mm-hm.340.2934
283DCA_se1_ag3_f_01340.6750[And um-]341.8476
284DCA_int_03340.8953[Can you say the whole thing?]341.9812
285DCA_se1_ag3_f_01342.5428[Well, that was- that was] the rhyme. [Down in Mississippi] where the boat goes push, and the one behind you347.9979
286DCA_int_03342.5625[/Hard to remember/.]343.6625
288 344.5139[That-]344.9349 
289DCA_se1_ag3_f_01348.4984would push. You know, they had to come in the rope350.8984
291 351.0715just as you would say, push, then352.8960 
292DCA_int_03352.9511Yeah.353.4272
293DCA_se1_ag3_f_01353.4822whoever was first,354.7609
295 354.9576they would say it, and then the one that was behind 'em, they had to push them when they said, the boat goes push.360.3467 
296DCA_int_03360.4883Mm-hm.360.8267
297DCA_se1_ag3_f_01360.7912And then they had one uh, that would say, one, two,364.1935
298 364.6223and then the next one would come along, and say 'three, four'367.3990
299DCA_int_03367.3430Mm-hm.367.7609
300DCA_se1_ag3_f_01367.8278and you couldn't lose time. You [had to keep] up.370.3536
301DCA_int_03369.5550[Right.]369.9130
302 371.1484Mm-hm.371.5300
304 372.4182Uh,372.7290 
306 372.9375can you remember any more?374.0667 
308 375.2194They're all coming back to me now.376.6751 
309DCA_se1_ag3_f_01376.6318I- <laugh>377.3675
310 377.8795Well, uh,378.9679
312 379.2315we had one that uh,381.1199 
314 381.6471would say um-382.9258 
316 384.6048Oh gee, this is so hard (laughing) to [think of.]387.2880 
317DCA_int_03386.6231[<laugh>]387.1227
318DCA_se1_ag3_f_01388.5696Um,389.2699
320 392.1498I really can't think of any more.393.7265 
322 393.9901Not-394.3363 
324 394.5291You know, not in /rhymed [and] uh, to think/ of the whole rhyme.398.0297 
325DCA_int_03395.9612[Mm-hm.]396.3986
326 398.0454Mm-hm.398.5097
327DCA_se1_ag3_f_01398.8126We had one that you would say the names of the month,401.5509
329 401.9129and then you would tell- We had one that you would tell the name of your lover.405.3426 
330DCA_int_03405.6888Oh, wow. [<laugh>]406.8259
331DCA_se1_ag3_f_01406.2633[<laugh>]407.1603
332DCA_int_03407.2341How old were you? [<laugh>]408.3475
333DCA_se1_ag3_f_01408.0353[<laugh>]408.8314
334 409.7363Um-410.2202
335DCA_int_03412.7097Do you watch television very much?414.2441
337 415.0120Now?415.3456 
338DCA_se1_ag3_f_01415.5817As much as I can, yes.417.3404
339DCA_int_03417.4545Hm.418.0210
341 418.4371Well, do you have any particular, you know, TV shows, that you-422.6311 
342DCA_se1_ag3_f_01422.7373[Yes.]423.5781
343DCA_int_03422.8032[/unintelligible/]423.6530
344DCA_se1_ag3_f_01423.9284Um,424.7743
346 425.4510I love Missions Impossible.427.4131 
347DCA_int_03427.4065/Oh yes./427.9788
348 428.3299Can you-428.7430
350 429.0066can you remember uh- an episode, like431.0053 
352 431.2649one of your favorite episodes or one432.8544 
354 433.3020you know, that you can tell me the whole story about.435.2219 
355DCA_se1_ag3_f_01436.0875Oh, gee whiz.437.3425
357 437.4763<laugh>438.0428 
358DCA_int_03438.0930Did you see it last night?439.1553
359DCA_se1_ag3_f_01439.1789I saw part of it last night441.6850
361 442.0273because I came in on the late part.444.1312 
363 445.0951Uh, I did see one, um,447.4006 
365 447.9812<ts>448.0499 
367 449.2370this has been about two weeks ago, uh-451.7195 
369 452.6943Cinnamon453.2844 
371 453.6346was, uh, captured,455.0116 
372DCA_int_03455.9283Mm.456.2430
373DCA_se1_ag3_f_01456.1919and they tried to uh,457.9151
374 458.3351break her459.0826
376 460.0780um,460.5462 
378 462.3206and um,463.0524 
380 463.6888make her tell464.7117 
382 465.2035why she was uh,466.9739 
384 467.2493stealing some things from the safe.469.3296 
385DCA_int_03469.4122Mm-hm.469.9197
386DCA_se1_ag3_f_01470.3289And uh,471.1433
388 471.3991her uh, companions472.8902 
390 473.6761attempted to uh,474.8131 
392 475.0570get her free and eventually they did.477.1501 
393DCA_int_03477.1737Mm-hm.477.6300
394DCA_se1_ag3_f_01478.4641And then uh-479.2656
396 479.5215Oh yes, I remember last week's too. It was about this uh, fella that had made this germ culture485.1072 
398 485.6421<ts>485.7468 
400 485.9138[from this deadly bacteria], yeah.488.1288 
401DCA_int_03485.9767[/I remember that one./]487.1570
402 488.2105Mm-hm.488.7613
403DCA_se1_ag3_f_01488.8085And um,489.7881
405 490.3404<ts>490.4026 
407 490.7245they- their- their mission was to destroy the bacteria,493.9782 
408DCA_int_03494.1080Mm-hm.494.4531
409DCA_se1_ag3_f_01494.4414and which they did.495.6296
410DCA_int_03496.4480Mm-hm. How'd they go about it?497.7856
411DCA_se1_ag3_f_01498.3522Well, um,499.6928
413 500.1851<ts>500.2439 
415 500.3616you know, the uh, fella Greg Morrison,502.4822 
417 503.4151had um,504.3196 
419 505.1251made all of the substitutes506.8838 
421 507.1474through this uh, duck508.6936 
423 508.9768that he had uh,510.0578 
425 511.2066cut in the wall.512.3869 
427 513.6616And uh,514.7031 
429 515.7419in this lab, you know, I like- You're in an- in an atomic lab. You519.1608 
431 519.3723work with the /arms/.520.6588 
432DCA_int_03520.6746Mm-hm.521.1782
433DCA_se1_ag3_f_01521.4103Well, this fella would push the /arms/, and of course they- they would pick up the subsitute instead of the real [thing, and they would] switch 'em!528.3809
434DCA_int_03527.1298[Oh yeah.]527.7475
435 528.6760Mm-hm.529.1953
436DCA_se1_ag3_f_01529.3714And um,530.2330
438 530.6304can't think of the little shark nosed guy's name,532.7193 
440 532.7978but uh,533.4080 
442 534.2657he was the guinea pig,535.9368 
444 537.7309and um,538.8207 
446 540.2007they thought that he was really being effected by uh-543.2104 
448 543.7298by the uh-544.5717 
450 545.6369bacteria, but he wasn't [because] it had been [substituted.]548.6624 
451DCA_int_03546.7779[Mm-hm.]547.3051
453 548.1274[Mm.]548.5208 
454 548.7923Mm-hm.549.2880
455DCA_se1_ag3_f_01549.5073And uh, soon as the same /duck/,551.4666
457 552.0646uh, they had put this explosive in,554.2000 
459 555.5023and it looked like a culture but it wasn't, [and this is how] the uh, culture was destroyed.559.9183 
460DCA_int_03557.5481[Mm-hm.]557.9927
461DCA_se1_ag3_f_01560.0001[And the man's] uh-561.3400
462DCA_int_03560.1713[Mm-hm.]560.6907
463DCA_se1_ag3_f_01561.7063His whole set up was563.0045
465 563.8617blown up.564.7273 
466DCA_int_03565.5446It's amazing how they do those [things.]567.1302
467DCA_se1_ag3_f_01566.8076[Mm.]567.1931
468DCA_int_03567.6416And they never fail either!568.8400
469DCA_se1_ag3_f_01568.8534[No- <laugh>]570.3906
470DCA_int_03569.0754[/Don't they/ <laugh>]570.1203
471 570.9888Um,571.4333
473 571.7992do you have any other favorite TV shows?573.6484 
474DCA_se1_ag3_f_01574.7382Um,575.4531
476 575.9844well I sit down and watch a lot of things with the children. I'm not particularly [interested in 'em.]579.9187 
477DCA_int_03579.1043[Mm-hm.]579.7102
478 580.2679[Mm-hm.]580.7518
479DCA_se1_ag3_f_01580.3190[And that's] uh, That Girl582.1996
480 582.9417and uh, Bewitched,584.4758
481DCA_int_03584.6530Mm-hm.585.1333
482DCA_se1_ag3_f_01585.5483and on Monday nights I like to look at the Big- Big Valley. That is one of my589.4173
483DCA_int_03589.3940Mm-hm.589.9023
484DCA_se1_ag3_f_01590.5318programs.591.3664
485DCA_int_03591.3478Ah,591.7208
486 591.9808/Did you/ go to the movies very much?593.5102
487DCA_se1_ag3_f_01593.7060No.594.2982
488DCA_int_03594.6200You ever go to plays?595.8556
489DCA_se1_ag3_f_01596.1074No, I uh, have gone to some of the children's matinees out at Shady Grove, but-601.1842
490DCA_int_03601.1982Mm-hm.601.7064
491DCA_se1_ag3_f_01602.1401nothing for myself.603.1799
493 603.8455My children love [those things.] <laugh>606.1397 
494DCA_int_03604.5233[/inaudible/]605.5043
495 606.5687What kind of things do you them to see?608.4991
496DCA_se1_ag3_f_01608.5877Well, they like musicals.610.4156
498 611.0486Uh, like they want to see the Sound of Music three time.613.5995 
499DCA_int_03613.6878Mm.614.0561
501 614.3779It was worth it. <laugh>615.3664 
502DCA_se1_ag3_f_01615.9260And um,617.1278
504 617.7484<ts>617.8040 
506 618.1210they like live plays619.7484 
507DCA_int_03619.7531Mm-hm.620.2240
508DCA_se1_ag3_f_01620.4012because during the summer when I can take them to the uh, children's shows, they like to go.625.6738
509DCA_int_03625.7204Mm-hm.626.1354
510DCA_se1_ag3_f_01626.8115And it's going to be quite costly, but I plan to take them to see Charlie Brown.631.1655
512 632.1401/Going to [look at that/.]633.1006 
513DCA_int_03632.4312[/Oh./]632.8072
514 633.6357That's- that's really nice.634.9740
516 635.0812/That's good for 'em./636.0884 
518 636.8345Um,637.3754 
520 637.7391do you have a pet now?638.9095 
521DCA_se1_ag3_f_01639.0773[No.]639.5483
522DCA_int_03639.4084[/unintelligible/]640.9449
523DCA_se1_ag3_f_01640.0740[Can't have]- We can't have pets in the house.642.2936
524DCA_int_03642.6480Oh, allergies?643.4500
525DCA_se1_ag3_f_01643.6411Yes.644.1401
526DCA_int_03644.2520Okay. <laugh>645.3291
528 645.6357/Good thing, explains-/ Have you ever had any bad experiences with them?648.4428 
529DCA_se1_ag3_f_01649.4173[No]-650.0422
530DCA_int_03649.5899[/You or-/]650.4152
531DCA_se1_ag3_f_01650.4758I owned a651.5110
533 651.9446police dog652.8574 
535 654.2703when I was655.0863 
537 655.3754a child,656.1634 
538DCA_int_03656.3033Mm-hm.656.7929
539DCA_se1_ag3_f_01656.9141and he died from old age.658.5695
540DCA_int_03658.9880How long did you have him?660.1490
541DCA_se1_ag3_f_01661.0443Oh,661.6505
543 662.4338ever since I could remember, you know, [from being] a little tot.666.0558 
544DCA_int_03664.7408[Mm-hm.]665.2304
545DCA_se1_ag3_f_01667.2728And uh, when he died, he was about uh,670.1218
547 671.0672about twelve years old. We had to put him to sleep.673.6132 
548DCA_int_03673.6551Mm-hm.674.1914
550 675.5063I bet that was pretty sad.677.1185 
551DCA_se1_ag3_f_01677.8972Well I didn't go, so it [didn't]-679.7764
552DCA_int_03679.3614[Oh.]679.8696
553DCA_se1_ag3_f_01680.1168<laugh>680.6136
555 681.0028You know,681.4970 
557 681.8176It's just like he had ran away.683.1668 
558DCA_int_03684.2703Yeah.684.9091
560 686.1074I guess it was like a member of the family. I've never had a pet myself,689.0672 
562 689.3936but uh, you know, I can remember people telling me about how they cried when their dogs died [/you know/]694.8549 
563DCA_se1_ag3_f_01694.4471[Well], no. He was more or less my protection697.6598
564 698.1587because um-699.2498
565DCA_int_03700.0379In other words, you didn't love him!701.4729
566DCA_se1_ag3_f_01701.8366Oh! <laugh> I loved him.704.3126
568 704.6297But- Um- I'm not saying I was a little devil, but707.9100 
570 708.1585<laugh> I used to do quite a few things,710.8498 
572 711.3571and I c-712.1358 
574 712.2699I could never get a spanking with him around. [<laugh>]715.8277 
575DCA_int_03714.9184[Mm-hm. I see.]716.0841
576DCA_se1_ag3_f_01716.7742[Oh oh]718.3969
577DCA_int_03716.8255[Oh yeah, I didn't think about that.]718.4937
578DCA_se1_ag3_f_01718.8248So I wouldn't worry about it.720.4148
579DCA_int_03720.4661Mm-hm.721.1329
580DCA_se1_ag3_f_01721.3940/Huzzah/.722.0701
581DCA_int_03723.8094Um,724.2897
583 725.1838let's see. Back to the good ol' school days.727.1655 
585 727.3101Did- did you go to school /near/ here?728.7276 
586DCA_se1_ag3_f_01728.8582Yes.729.3291
587DCA_int_03729.3757Mm-hm. What schools did you go to?730.7500
588DCA_se1_ag3_f_01731.0206I went to Payne732.3449
590 732.9417and Lovejoy.733.9676 
592 734.8535I went to Brown and Langley, and I went to /unintelligible/.738.0837 
593DCA_int_03738.2330Mm-hm.738.8158
595 739.7764Um,740.3406 
597 740.5551let's see.741.4084 
599 741.7523I never went to any of those schools, but I am familiar with them.744.9471 
601 745.5852Um,746.0795 
603 747.4597let's see. Let's start at-748.3643 
605 748.6289at-748.8854 
607 749.1978Payne or-749.7060 
609 749.8319What- When did you leave Payne?751.4686 
610DCA_se1_ag3_f_01751.8836I started there753.0866
612 754.1626at the age of four,755.5568 
613DCA_int_03756.2143Uh-huh.756.7412
614DCA_se1_ag3_f_01756.7878and I /sbees-/758.5318
616 758.8209See-759.3151 
618 759.7534I went up760.4575 
620 760.7502to the fourth grade because they were two crowded763.1702 
621DCA_int_03763.3474Mm-hm.763.8323
622DCA_se1_ag3_f_01763.8090so I had to to take- do the fifth and sixth grade over at [Lovejoy.]767.1651
623DCA_int_03766.6989[Mm-hm.]767.1512
624 767.2724Which one did you like best?768.5873
625DCA_se1_ag3_f_01769.1181Oh I loved770.0422
627 770.1727to go to Payne school.771.5250 
629 771.9773Uh, that was773.1978 
631 773.5102in my neighborhood,774.6833 
633 775.2495and it was around my friends.777.1892 
634DCA_int_03777.2312Mm-hm.777.8514
635DCA_se1_ag3_f_01778.2605So, um,779.1372
637 780.3059although making new friends is782.3825 
639 782.9468you know, always a new adventure, it-784.7035 
640DCA_int_03784.6569Mm-hm.785.1139
641DCA_se1_ag3_f_01785.8553Old friends are the best.787.2168
642DCA_int_03787.2075Yeah, [right? <laugh>]788.3919
643DCA_se1_ag3_f_01787.3800[<laugh>]788.3732
644DCA_int_03789.1706Um,789.6602
646 790.0041what kind of things did you-791.2957 
648 792.1397did you take in um,793.5572 
650 794.0049let's say Junior High School.795.3851 
651DCA_se1_ag3_f_01796.4844Well,797.2211
653 797.9951let's see that was more of a general thing. I think it was uh-802.0192 
655 802.8341I would say to me, it was uh,805.3800 
657 806.0095dec- a deciding point then.808.3410 
659 808.7921It would-809.2677 
661 809.4076It was the course- The courses that I took helped me decide what I wanted to do.813.7954 
663 814.4284You know, [for Senior] High,815.7480 
664DCA_int_03814.7362[Mm-hm.]815.2817
665 815.7900Mm-hm.816.2842
666DCA_se1_ag3_f_01816.5733and how I wanted to prepare myself.818.3965
667DCA_int_03819.8607Like what- What were your most821.2258
669 821.4822influential courses?823.0490 
670DCA_se1_ag3_f_01823.0909Uh,823.6645
672 824.0422the Commercial Art,825.1892 
674 826.0227um,826.9134 
676 828.7972the Typing,829.7764 
677DCA_int_03830.3779Mm-hm.830.8582
678DCA_se1_ag3_f_01830.8069and uh, the language832.6207
679 833.6874I did take834.2936
680DCA_int_03834.5594Mm-hm.835.1422
681DCA_se1_ag3_f_01835.1189um,835.6411
682 836.0841Latin.836.5831
683DCA_int_03837.2032Mm-hm.837.6742
684DCA_se1_ag3_f_01838.3771And I continued on with that.839.9532
685DCA_int_03839.9392Mm-hm.840.4288
686DCA_se1_ag3_f_01840.5827/but/.840.9977
687DCA_int_03841.4576Well,841.8556
689 842.5038um,842.9747 
691 845.5475Those were your most influential courses. Do you think the teachers had anything to do with it?849.7068 
692DCA_se1_ag3_f_01850.6103No.851.2631
693DCA_int_03850.9413[Those] are just your [interests.]852.2330
694DCA_se1_ag3_f_01852.0324[No.]852.5221
695 853.1329It's my interests.854.0422
696DCA_int_03855.3664Did you have-855.9539
698 856.3398Did you like them? Or you857.3890 
700 857.6781not like them, or?858.5920 
701DCA_se1_ag3_f_01858.7878Well, really I don't think that um,861.2172
703 862.3911that was the most uh,864.0418 
705 864.4148impressive thing.865.5386 
707 866.1447Uh,866.5551 
709 867.3105the thing that I wanted to do869.1045 
711 869.9625uh, I did it.871.0256 
713 871.3894You know, I went in to see what I could absorb, not-874.6347 
715 875.1698I mean the teacher d- didn't have anything to do [with it. You know, whether] I liked or disliked her879.9213 
716DCA_int_03877.3147[Mm-hm.]877.9536
717 880.2839[Mm-hm.]880.7641
718DCA_se1_ag3_f_01880.4004[The thing] of it881.0393
719 881.2258that I wanted to was to master the subject,883.9256
721 884.6437and that [was it.]885.6322 
722DCA_int_03885.1799[Right.]885.5856
723 886.5450So you got- You887.6314
725 887.9205stay fairly motivated anyway?889.9302 
726DCA_se1_ag3_f_01890.1634[Yeah.]890.8162
727DCA_int_03890.2240[/??/]890.7975
728 891.1892Where do you think you got that from?892.7500
729DCA_se1_ag3_f_01893.9951I haven't the faintest idea.895.6726
731 895.8099<laugh>896.3919 
733 896.9747I mean-897.3198 
734DCA_int_03897.3431Where does a person get motivated for things?899.6874
735DCA_se1_ag3_f_01901.6178I really think it depends on how well you905.9677
737 906.1933grow,906.7505 
739 908.9001especially emotionally.910.7500 
740DCA_int_03911.0626Mm-hm.911.4496
741DCA_se1_ag3_f_01911.4496It's how well you grow it-912.6853
742 913.4033You really can reach the point where you said, I know where I'm going and know what I want to do, then919.2448
744 919.8929I think you've reached the peak of your life.921.8829 
745DCA_int_03924.5967D- What about your- do you think your parents926.7836
747 927.8327[/played some part?/]929.0812 
748DCA_se1_ag3_f_01928.0845[No.]928.8760
749 929.1651Uh, my mother and father930.6386
751 931.1655were separated,932.4711 
753 932.6903and my mother uh,934.5088 
755 934.9833never went passed grade school.936.9883 
756DCA_int_03937.0303Mm-hm.937.4733
757DCA_se1_ag3_f_01937.3660So she wasn't any help to me at all.939.7674
758DCA_int_03940.4051Well you see what I'm [saying.] [A lot of] people have had942.7692
759DCA_se1_ag3_f_01941.0579[I-]941.3796
761 941.4496[I-]941.7620 
762DCA_int_03943.1422disadvanages. You know, like maybe your parents didn't finish uh, high school, or something. Who knows.947.5895
764 947.7807And yet, they948.8018 
766 949.2785from somewhere,950.2268 
768 950.8442you know,951.3338 
770 952.1999reaches-952.7595 
772 953.0253you know, tried for a goal, you know, that's a little higher up,956.0935 
774 956.7416you know.957.2452 
775DCA_se1_ag3_f_01957.2219Well, um,958.7500
776 959.4776there isn't anyone that I can say that961.4033
778 961.6785inspired to me do anything.963.4877 
779DCA_int_03964.1113Mm-hm.964.5590
780DCA_se1_ag3_f_01964.8574I um,965.7480
782 966.7272spent uh,967.7624 
784 968.2520the majority of my time alone970.0798 
785DCA_int_03970.3550Mm-hm.970.7500
786DCA_se1_ag3_f_01970.9553by me being an only child,972.6433
787DCA_int_03972.6480Mm.972.9930
788DCA_se1_ag3_f_01973.0023and um,974.0561
790 974.7183my mother was quite strict976.4855 
792 976.8154so I had to resign myself979.5712 
794 980.2660to doing one thing or the other.982.2897 
796 983.4356And uh, this is what I did.985.1049 
798 986.8535And so I can put my finger on it988.6243 
800 989.0952and can really tell you [about it.]990.4661 
801DCA_int_03990.1304[Mm-hm.]990.4754
802 992.1168Some- I don't know. That's993.9213
804 994.3936amazing to me. <laugh> I always wonder996.7873 
806 997.5292you know what- [what things influence] people.999.5110 
807DCA_se1_ag3_f_01997.9862[Mm-mm.]999.0587
808 1000.7175Nothing really did. I mean I- I knew I had to get it1004.1168
810 1004.6856because of the fact that my mother was so strict.1007.1446 
811DCA_int_031007.4542[Mm-hm.]1008.0045
812DCA_se1_ag3_f_011007.7480[You] know I couldn't go anywhere. So I knew I had- I had to get it, I wouldn't dare1012.1591
813 1012.6056bring a poor mark home.1014.7412
815 1015.7624You know, I had to bring-1016.8022 
817 1017.5996A m-1017.9027 
819 1018.0519You-1018.2757 
821 1018.4237Anything I did,1019.5382 
823 1019.9578the best was expected of me.1021.6385 
824DCA_int_031021.6450Right.1021.9687
825DCA_se1_ag3_f_011022.4105So I just made up my mind, I was gonna do it.1024.8248
826DCA_int_031024.8248Mm-hm.1025.3517
828 1025.7200Mm-hm.1026.3915 
830 1027.3334Um,1027.7846 
832 1029.6555what did you1030.6289 
834 1031.0206do after school. Say, a typical-1033.1003 
836 1033.5292back in the good old days of Payne,1035.2965 
837DCA_se1_ag3_f_011035.9773Hm.1036.3503
838DCA_int_031036.1906[like] what was a typical day after school?1038.2735
839DCA_se1_ag3_f_011039.9489Uh,1040.6390
841 1040.8861well before I got to the fourth grade,1043.9159 
843 1044.8112um,1045.3427 
845 1045.8463I played.1046.5691 
847 1047.0587You know, we didn't have1048.3363 
849 1048.9740a great deal of- of uh, homework,1051.4873 
851 1052.9922and uh, I played.1054.4622 
853 1055.6921And1056.1723 
855 1057.0070to me, um, school wasn't too difficult.1059.6928 
856DCA_int_031059.8980Mm-hm.1060.3783
857DCA_se1_ag3_f_011061.6594And um,1062.5081
859 1064.0075if we had a little assignment, it didn't take me more than a half an hour or forty five minutes, and I was through.1069.5526 
861 1070.7416And uh,1071.4037 
863 1072.6709I- I did like to sew.1074.3635 
865 1074.7132I used to1075.4500 
866DCA_int_031075.6038At that [age?]1076.2972
867DCA_se1_ag3_f_011075.8790[sew a] few fingers. <laugh>1078.1278
868 1078.4810But uh, I'd get a blouse or something made.1080.8251
869DCA_int_031081.3287That's very [good.]1082.3219
870DCA_se1_ag3_f_011081.8790[Mm-hm.]1082.5318
871DCA_int_031082.5131That's very good.1083.5203
872 1084.0798Did you um- Were you a good child?1086.3112
874 1087.0023When you were [/little/?]1087.7344 
875DCA_se1_ag3_f_011087.5899[No], I did all the little things1089.4457
876 1090.4144you know, that uh, children do.1092.4941
878 1093.2262I [was a little]1094.1121 
879DCA_int_031093.5665[Mm-hm.]1093.8743
880DCA_se1_ag3_f_011095.1752devil I [suppose.]1096.5679
881DCA_int_031096.1626[Mm-hm.]1096.7082
882DCA_se1_ag3_f_011096.7805Or devilish at times,1098.2291
883DCA_int_031098.3215Mm-hm.1098.7613
884DCA_se1_ag3_f_011098.8006you know.1099.1655
885DCA_int_031099.9349So you weren't- you weren't really bad?1101.7395
886DCA_se1_ag3_f_011101.9260No, I wasn't goody goody either. [<laugh>]1105.1142
887DCA_int_031104.0045[Okay. <laugh>]1104.9744
888 1105.4267Um,1105.9349
890 1106.4851did you ever have a teacher that hollered at you?1108.3911 
891DCA_se1_ag3_f_011109.4309No.1109.8319
892DCA_int_031109.8180Were you hollered at very much?1111.1282
893DCA_se1_ag3_f_011111.6225No.1112.0841
894DCA_int_031112.1121/not at all/.1112.8582
895DCA_se1_ag3_f_011112.9654No, uh, not unless it was a group thing,1115.8180
897 1116.4941but not individually, [no.]1118.0748 
898DCA_int_031117.6318[Mm-hm.]1118.3126
899 1118.5977Mm-hm.1118.9901
901 1119.5716Did you ever have a teacher that uh,1121.8926 
903 1123.4620that1123.6157 
905 1123.9629just didn't like yourself. I mean, it wasn't necessarily she didn't like you, but1127.6862 
907 1128.3076you just couldn't stand her for any reason.1130.0935 
908DCA_se1_ag3_f_011130.2007I [have never uh, disliked] anyone to that point.1133.1268
909DCA_int_031130.4991[/unintelligible/]1131.7488
910DCA_se1_ag3_f_011134.2190[Never.]1134.8578
911DCA_int_031134.4847[That's] very good. Very [/inaudible/.]1136.3359
912DCA_se1_ag3_f_011135.6365[I have] never met a person like that.1137.7768
913 1139.3657I must say. And if, I1141.3194
915 1141.7997do meet someone and um,1144.0099 
917 1144.8154if the feeling is leaning toward that way, I-1147.1609 
919 1147.7810I do my very best to-1149.7488 
921 1150.4575to change it.1151.3563 
923 1152.2003You know, to divert that because I think it's uh-1155.1659 
925 1155.4317It's horrible to hurt any- You know, to uh,1157.8646 
927 1158.2003hate anybody.1159.1935 
928DCA_int_031160.4898That's [pretty good] considering your talking about teachers.1163.2211
929DCA_se1_ag3_f_011160.8022[Um.]1161.1333
930 1163.6221<laugh>1164.7459
931DCA_int_031164.4614You [know, /they're just people/.]1166.4385
932DCA_se1_ag3_f_011164.8858[Well, they can be pretty rough. <laugh>]1167.5016
933DCA_int_031166.8302[Yeah.]1167.5250
934DCA_se1_ag3_f_011167.5996[But uh-]1168.4529
935DCA_int_031167.6509[But usually-] almost everybody I ask,1169.8786
936 1170.6992you know, has [at least] one teacher that they remember1173.0587
937DCA_se1_ag3_f_011171.1049[Um.]1171.4966
938DCA_int_031173.9400you know, that they just didn't like at all.1175.6430
939DCA_se1_ag3_f_011175.9205Well, some of them are pretty arrogant,1178.4572
941 1179.1659but uh,1179.8654 
943 1180.6289I look upon this as uh,1182.4170 
945 1183.1655this is their- Like they use the slang- This is their hang up.1185.9683 
946DCA_int_031185.9948[Mm-hm.] Mm-hm.1187.1978
947DCA_se1_ag3_f_011186.1972[You know.]1186.6804
948 1187.2771They just can't help it.1188.4708
949DCA_int_031188.7226Mm-hm.1189.2728
950DCA_se1_ag3_f_011190.2893But uh- uh- um- Everybody doesn't look at things the way I do.1193.9019
951DCA_int_031194.4101Yeah [I think <laugh>]1195.8056
952DCA_se1_ag3_f_011194.8251[<laugh>]1195.7860
953 1196.0640[<laugh>]1196.4269
954DCA_int_031196.0640[/inaudible/]1197.0167
955DCA_se1_ag3_f_011196.6558[I] found this as I was1197.8700
956 1198.0647passing along the way.1199.4403
957DCA_int_031199.4403Mm-hm.1199.9951
959 1201.1003Did you ever have a- a favorite teacher?1203.1939 
960DCA_se1_ag3_f_011204.3958Oh yeah.1205.1045
961DCA_int_031205.4356And who was that?1206.1583
962DCA_se1_ag3_f_011206.1583My second grade teacher was my favorite teacher. I will never forget her. I1210.9693
963 1211.3750just fell in love with her,1212.8391
965 1213.4220and I think she fell in love with me too1215.5343 
967 1215.8875because uh, we um,1217.3423 
969 1217.6874would be together even1218.9744 
971 1219.3847after school hours. She was1221.1846 
973 1221.3524very much like a mother to me.1222.7500 
974DCA_int_031222.8947Mm-hm.1223.5102
976 1225.0303W- w- what was it about her that you-1227.0727 
978 1227.5203you- you- think, um, you know. What's your [opinion of her?]1230.0861 
979DCA_se1_ag3_f_011229.8506[Well], to me she was my ideal lady.1232.5224
980DCA_int_031233.0587Mm-hm.1233.6555
981DCA_se1_ag3_f_011234.6103She just uh- She just said,1236.4101
983 1236.7552and she did, and her tone of voice was just the way1239.7674 
985 1240.2559you know, I wanted1241.3890 
987 1242.0884to be talked to, and [she treated] me the way I wanted to be treated.1245.4690 
988DCA_int_031243.4267[Mm-hm.]1243.8650
989DCA_se1_ag3_f_011246.1999So this is it.1246.8994
990DCA_int_031249.7297Well maybe that was your1250.9887
992 1251.3198deciding influence in [life.]1252.9926 
993DCA_se1_ag3_f_011252.7688[No.] Uh, she never told me what to do.1255.2544
994DCA_int_031256.1261Mm-hm.1256.6483
996 1257.5343Did you ever-1258.1171 
998 1259.0672obviously you probably wanted to be very much like her.1261.9116 
999DCA_se1_ag3_f_011263.4970I don't think so either.1264.6616
1001 1265.5242Um,1266.1397 
1003 1267.7251I don't know how to describe this feeling, but1270.0192 
1005 1271.5895anything I wanted to do,1273.5852 
1007 1274.3639you know,1274.9561 
1009 1275.1659if uh,1276.0705 
1011 1277.4216I felt real about it,1278.4941 
1013 1278.9184you know, I1279.5526 
1015 1280.0608would attempt to do it. I'd go right along. You know, I was1282.7500 
1017 1283.4496an individual person.1284.9604 
1018DCA_int_031284.9930Mm-hm.1285.5059
1019DCA_se1_ag3_f_011286.3126Mm.1286.7369
1020DCA_int_031288.2932Well that's very good. Um-1289.5708
1022 1290.4661The most different answers I've [ever had. <laugh>]1293.2825 
1023DCA_se1_ag3_f_011291.9349[Yeah well my- my daughter's] like that.1293.9260
1024DCA_int_031293.9528Mm-hm.1294.4984
1025DCA_se1_ag3_f_011294.5030Uh,1294.9740
1027 1295.3423I will try to guide her1297.2028 
1029 1297.6645about things that I notice that she's1299.4877 
1031 1299.7523a pretty strong person,1301.2524 
1033 1301.5382and she knows exactly what she wants to do, and she goes right along and she does it.1305.9260 
1035 1307.1325And um,1307.7900 
1037 1308.1071I might even holler at her about1310.0515 
1039 1310.2240something I feel that she's doing wrong,1312.2570 
1041 1312.7408well she'll stop,1313.7620 
1043 1314.1117but she'll fix1315.0909 
1045 1315.3800some way to get around,1317.0680 
1047 1317.4783you know, [doing this] particular thing that I don't want her to do.1320.9254 
1048DCA_int_031318.1346[Mm-hm.]1318.6989
1049 1322.0888[Mm-hm.]1322.5877
1050DCA_se1_ag3_f_011322.4245[And] she does it.1323.1986
1051DCA_int_031323.4877How old is she?1324.0892
1052DCA_se1_ag3_f_011324.4203She's ten.1325.1745
1053DCA_int_031326.3979Ten? [<laugh>]1327.5013
1054DCA_se1_ag3_f_011326.6619[Yeah, she does] it.1327.9069
1055DCA_int_031328.7276And- [and you have another] one?1330.0146
1056DCA_se1_ag3_f_011329.0167[/inaudible/]1329.6392
1057 1330.1207Nine.1330.6009
1058DCA_int_031330.8854Nine. [Nine and ten's nice.]1332.4335
1059DCA_se1_ag3_f_011331.4076[Mm-hm.]1332.1117
1060DCA_int_031332.6246/inaudible/1334.0188
1062 1334.2986Is- is she um-1335.5250 
1064 1335.6648two girls or?1336.7500 
1065DCA_se1_ag3_f_011336.8201No. It's a boy and a girl.1338.2563
1066DCA_int_031338.2469Mm-hm.1338.7086
1067 1340.0748Mm.1340.3825
1069 1340.9654That's very nice. I'd like some day to have children.1343.3890 
1070DCA_se1_ag3_f_011343.3563<laugh>1344.1817
1071DCA_int_031345.1469Um,1345.7344
1073 1347.5949is there a group of uh, people or friends1350.8239 
1075 1351.4550that you1352.1214 
1077 1353.2638socialize with most of the time?1355.4503 
1078DCA_se1_ag3_f_011357.0023No, um,1358.1447
1080 1359.5902I only have one friend,1361.3330 
1082 1361.6128/Lily, a real old/1362.6666 
1084 1362.8858very good- good friend,1364.7136 
1086 1365.1892and I grew up with her.1366.5834 
1087DCA_int_031366.8341Mm-hm.1367.3050
1088DCA_se1_ag3_f_011367.7107And,1368.5174
1090 1369.5712we um,1370.4991 
1092 1371.2405go out on Saturdays.1372.5648 
1094 1372.7641We will do our shopping or we'll1375.3940 
1096 1375.5665take the children and go1376.9328 
1098 1377.2498various1377.7348 
1100 1377.9446places.1378.5916 
1101DCA_int_031378.6103Mm-hm.1379.1512
1103 1379.7340Mm-hm.1380.1817 
1104DCA_se1_ag3_f_011380.1024This is it.1380.7412
1105DCA_int_031382.2846Well, that's- that's good. Well-1383.6648
1107 1383.9819um, between the two of you, which one do you think is the1386.7599 
1109 1387.8603um,1388.3919 
1111 1389.3618the leader or more less. And don't be modest if [it's you. /??/] You know, [honestly.]1394.3872 
1112DCA_se1_ag3_f_011391.6781[No.]1392.3449
1114 1392.7179[I- I think] we break even.1394.4711 
1115 1394.6670[<laugh>] Yeah.1395.8280
1116DCA_int_031395.0074[Really?]1395.4199
1117DCA_se1_ag3_f_011395.9819I really [do.]1396.7500
1118DCA_int_031396.4517[I] can't imagine [two women] breaking even.1398.5224
1119DCA_se1_ag3_f_011397.2817[<laugh>]1397.7343
1120 1398.5873I really think we break even1400.1634
1122 1400.7789because uh,1401.6648 
1124 1402.1720sometimes she'll call up,1403.5988 
1126 1403.9112and she'll say uh,1405.5059 
1128 1405.8790well, let's go uh,1407.3245 
1130 1407.7907out to some place like Kleins [today.]1409.9625 
1131DCA_int_031409.4729[Mm-hm.]1409.9299
1132DCA_se1_ag3_f_011410.3682And I'll tell her, well I don't have to any money, so I'll window shop. She said, well there's something I want to get.1415.4496
1133DCA_int_031415.8319Mm-hm.1416.3402
1134DCA_se1_ag3_f_011416.4474And if uh,1417.5992
1136 1418.0095I want to go out. She says, I don't have any money. I'll window shop.1421.1745 
1138 1421.7853We'll go.1422.5034 
1140 1423.5059Or, uh, if we have to go some place that's uh, takes- takes a long1428.1723 
1142 1428.4568drive or a great1429.6505 
1144 1429.7810length of time,1430.7649 
1146 1431.2312uh, she and I both drive.1432.9833 
1148 1433.4309And we'll share the driving distance. [/But/ we like] to take the children to see things.1438.2384 
1149DCA_int_031435.4267[Mm-hm.]1435.9069
1150 1441.1189Well let's see.1441.9629
1152 1442.1494I guess you don't belong to a group now.1443.3606 
1154 1444.5357I mean, you know, some people travel in-1446.1956 
1155DCA_se1_ag3_f_011446.5640Yeah, well, uh, I don't live in that area now, but1449.8141
1157 1450.1253I used to work with the uh,1451.6314 
1159 1451.9718/RD-WORK-4/1453.0909 
1160DCA_int_031453.3614Oh!1453.6551
1161DCA_se1_ag3_f_011453.7064[/RD-WORK-2/]1454.3454
1162DCA_int_031453.7950[/inaudible/]1455.3571
1163DCA_se1_ag3_f_011454.5711[Mm-hm.]1455.1799
1164 1455.9568<ts>1456.0222
1166 1456.3258I used to work with them,1457.6734 
1168 1458.4055and um,1459.4033 
1170 1459.6738then I moved out of the area, and I started um,1462.5461 
1172 1463.0159buying a home.1464.0185 
1173DCA_int_031464.5081Mm-hm.1465.0723
1174DCA_se1_ag3_f_011465.5292And I-1466.4525
1176 1467.0960I was divorced then, but I've remarried, so1469.7760 
1178 1470.0698you know, I've moved downtown now,1471.8370 
1179DCA_int_031471.7997Mm-hm.1472.2893
1180DCA_se1_ag3_f_011472.5831and I live in an apartment building. And I know it's something going on in the uh, /Sure/ Project,1477.5199
1182 1477.9442but since I work the long hours that I do,1480.4482 
1184 1481.0439you know, I don't get a chance to participate.1483.1982 
1185DCA_int_031481.9345[Mm-hm.]1482.4754
1187 1482.6526[Mm-hm.] Mm-hm.1483.6038 
1188 1483.8929What did you do up there- there at /RD-WORK-4/?1486.0294
1189DCA_se1_ag3_f_011486.8434Well, um,1488.0604
1191 1488.3029they had um,1489.4546 
1193 1490.8442things going on up at the uh, school,1493.6206 
1195 1494.1537um, /RD-WORK-2/'s School, that uh- like bake sales.1497.9073 
1197 1498.4249They had um,1499.7946 
1199 1501.0443where the parent would give free time.1503.3571 
1200DCA_int_031503.7814[Mm-hm.]1504.2151
1201DCA_se1_ag3_f_011504.0006[They] would have uh,1505.1698
1202 1505.7573special lunch1506.8065
1204 1507.0863sales.1507.9302 
1206 1508.6390Uh, during the summer1509.9959 
1208 1510.6755uh, the church at Meridian- Yeah, it's /RD-CHURCH-7/-1513.9396 
1209DCA_int_031514.0188Mm-hm.1514.4665
1210DCA_se1_ag3_f_011514.6157They had this uh, day camp1516.2710
1212 1517.8553uh,1518.5267 
1214 1519.4593project going on during the summer,1521.3478 
1216 1521.9711and I would1522.5695 
1218 1522.8108uh,1523.1139 
1220 1523.2910be a helper1524.0138 
1221DCA_int_031524.1817Mm-hm.1524.6480
1222DCA_se1_ag3_f_011524.5221with that.1525.0676
1223DCA_int_031525.1795Mm-hm.1525.5852
1224DCA_se1_ag3_f_011526.1074And [um]-1526.8069
1225DCA_int_031526.6530[You] had your children at that time?1528.3223
1226 1528.5450When you were up there?1529.3377
1227DCA_se1_ag3_f_011530.3495Uh,1530.9277
1228DCA_int_031531.1376[Were they involved] in the program or-?1532.8162
1229DCA_se1_ag3_f_011531.1422[just um-]1532.1746
1231 1532.8115just sometimes because of my1534.7500 
1232 1535.0066daughter liked to go um,1536.9371
1234 1538.3173stay with her cousin,1539.2872 
1236 1539.9726and my son had asthma.1541.4309 
1238 1542.0837[Well, he still has] asthma, and he couldn't mix with1544.8628 
1239DCA_int_031542.0931[Mm-hm.]1542.7226
1240DCA_se1_ag3_f_011545.2498everything1546.1125
1241DCA_int_031546.1405Yeah. Mm-hm.1547.2499
1242DCA_se1_ag3_f_011547.4026and everybody. [So uh,]1549.1356
1243DCA_int_031548.4319[Mm.]1548.8972
1244DCA_se1_ag3_f_011549.9251just as [um-]1551.0009
1245DCA_int_031550.7334[Do you know] /RD-NAME-3/ up there?1551.9896
1246DCA_se1_ag3_f_011552.3152Sure.1552.8212
1247DCA_int_031552.7863Uh-huh. <laugh>1554.3216
1248DCA_se1_ag3_f_011553.2341Used to live right across the street from her.1555.0602
1249DCA_int_031556.3163She live on Seaton Place [right?] Yes, I used- I used to be up there. No, I can't be talking about this on tape.1562.3862
1250DCA_se1_ag3_f_011557.2861[Yeah.]1557.8327
1251DCA_int_031562.6945I used to work up there- well,1564.0902
1253 1564.4391in connection with /RD-WORK-8/.1566.8918 
1254DCA_se1_ag3_f_011566.6359[Mm-hm.]1567.1186
1255 1567.4908Well I was there from uh,1569.2645
1257 1569.7240sixty one until sixty five.1572.1141 
1258DCA_int_031572.8745When was that- No, I didn't even come to work there til sixty six. [/inaudible/]1577.0384
1259DCA_se1_ag3_f_011575.9975[Mm-hm.]1576.6895
1260DCA_int_031577.2579Mm-hm.1577.6372
1262 1577.9573I really enjoyed that.1579.0041 
1264 1579.5100You know, [it was very-]1580.5742 
1265DCA_se1_ag3_f_011579.9578[It is] really intereseting. I mean you- you have uh-1584.0563
1266 1584.5448you really have something to keep you occupied.1586.9815
1267DCA_int_031586.9510Mm-hm.1587.3522
1268DCA_se1_ag3_f_011588.1606And it's [not like you] go and you1590.6130
1269DCA_int_031588.4921[Mm-hm.]1589.0969
1270DCA_se1_ag3_f_011590.8026meet the normal humdrum,1592.5338
1272 1592.9002you know.1593.4178 
1273DCA_int_031593.2944[That's] for sure. That's for sure.1594.9622
1274DCA_se1_ag3_f_011595.5369Each- each family has an-1597.1499
1276 1597.4698has an individual problem,1599.1330 
1277DCA_int_031599.1446Mm-hm.1599.5517
1278DCA_se1_ag3_f_011599.9879and it's nothing similar to the other.1601.9651
1279DCA_int_031602.0873That's- that's-1602.6267
1280DCA_se1_ag3_f_011602.5860And uh, it- it gets you out and-1604.4586
1281DCA_int_031605.5286Mm-hm.1606.1276
1283 1606.8022That's very true. I grew quite1608.0642 
1285 1608.4713attached to a lot of the children. I worked mostly with the children /??/.1611.6276 
1286DCA_se1_ag3_f_011611.8370Mm-hm.1612.2964
1287DCA_int_031614.2680Well,1614.7357
1289 1615.7276that's interesting to know.1617.2861 
1291 1618.2500Um,1618.9130 
1292DCA_se1_ag3_f_011621.0880[Well-]1621.6172
1293DCA_int_031621.1229[did you]- did you um, ever-1623.5305
1294 1624.5424Have you ever been much of a joiner? I mean,1626.9370
1296 1627.9256seems to me that-1628.7165 
1298 1629.0654My impression is that you were more or less the independent child1632.9793 
1300 1633.6059you know, in the past. Did you ever have a lot of uh- a group that you went around with most of the time?1638.4684 
1302 1638.8608Or were you mostly-1639.7820 
1303DCA_se1_ag3_f_011639.7820No because uh,1641.3682
1304 1641.4826see,1641.9960
1306 1642.1988my uh-1642.8860 
1308 1643.5722I feel that my freedom was really limited to1646.3753 
1310 1647.0615um,1647.7419 
1312 1648.8722<ts>1648.9769 
1314 1649.2409I'll give you a for instance.1650.7877 
1316 1651.0068Now,1651.5671 
1318 1652.8250uh,1653.7479 
1320 1654.7889at the age of sixteen, I still had to be in the house by nine.1658.8699 
1321DCA_int_031659.2886Mm.1659.7788
1323 1660.0110I see.1660.5342 
1324DCA_se1_ag3_f_011661.5102And uh,1662.4813
1326 1663.5790I couldn't be out uh, anywhere after dark, whether it was nine o'clock or not, but if I went any place, I had to be in by nine.1671.3297 
1327DCA_int_031671.2831Mm-hm.1671.8996
1328DCA_se1_ag3_f_011672.0624And uh, like1672.7620
1330 1672.9614girls would have pajama parties. I couldn't [go to those,]1676.7148 
1331DCA_int_031675.2377[/inaudible/]1676.8253
1332DCA_se1_ag3_f_011676.9881and, if you went to a party, it's ridiculuous to think you were going to be home by nine.1681.3774
1333DCA_int_031681.5519Right.1681.9299
1334DCA_se1_ag3_f_011681.9415So those were limited, too.1683.6047
1335DCA_int_031685.7492[Well.]1686.3075
1336DCA_se1_ag3_f_011685.7899[So] after- <laugh>1687.2322
1337 1687.7381after uh,1688.8431
1339 1689.8317those childhood days, I've-1691.6461 
1341 1692.0823I really started mixing.1693.6278 
1342DCA_int_031693.6103Mm-hm.1694.0523
1343DCA_se1_ag3_f_011694.0401You know, going out.1694.9493
1344 1696.4590And I d- I didn't start to work until I was twenty one.1699.8442
1346 1701.8155<laugh> Well, that was a luxery.1704.7438 
1347DCA_int_031701.8341<laugh>1702.7574
1348 1704.7904Yes, [I'd say so], too.1706.4830
1349DCA_se1_ag3_f_011705.2753[<laugh>]1706.0820
1350DCA_int_031707.4191Um,1707.9833
1352 1709.7786do you have any associates that speak foreign languages?1712.7721 
1353DCA_se1_ag3_f_011715.4475Mm.1716.4966
1355 1717.0189Let me think.1718.4166 
1357 1720.9812Uh,1722.0117 
1359 1724.0401yes.1724.6789 
1361 1726.0952Yes. I will answer yes.1727.8252 
1362DCA_int_031727.9044Mm-hm.1728.4640
1364 1729.1075Uh, do you have any white friends or [associates?]1731.6548 
1365DCA_se1_ag3_f_011731.4284[Yes.]1731.7828
1366DCA_int_031731.9927Mm-hm.1732.4963
1368 1733.2656Um,1733.8112 
1370 1737.5497how are you regarded among people? I mean how to people take you in generally? Do they1741.8349 
1372 1742.1893um,1742.7535 
1374 1743.2140sort of1744.0440 
1376 1744.8506believe what you have to say, and can you1747.3873 
1378 1747.6297tell if they respect you more or less?1749.9367 
1379DCA_se1_ag3_f_011750.7201Yes, I will answer yes to that.1753.0795
1380DCA_int_031753.0375Mm-hm.1753.7183
1381 1755.1580Um,1755.6663
1383 1757.6900when you were a child,1758.7904 
1385 1759.6017what did you want to be?1760.8020 
1387 1762.9252Professionally.1763.8671 
1388DCA_se1_ag3_f_011765.1215Uh,1765.8535
1390 1766.2079I didn't have a profe-1767.7134 
1392 1767.9358um,1768.6874 
1394 1769.4288a thought1769.9930 
1396 1770.5852about being anything professionally really.1773.3632 
1398 1774.7201I uh, just wanted to uh,1776.6085 
1400 1777.0888at that point, I just wanted to grow up1779.0006 
1402 1779.6476and be independent, and you know,1782.3055 
1404 1783.5085well-1784.0680 
1406 1785.7502well when I- I know, when I was smaller, I used to say I'd grow up, and I'm going to be a lady. [<laugh>]1791.6988 
1407DCA_int_031791.0041[<laugh> Mm-hm.]1792.0813
1408DCA_se1_ag3_f_011791.9865Cause that was anything, too.1793.9604
1409DCA_int_031794.6785Well, um, well what do you now?1796.4737
1410DCA_se1_ag3_f_011797.3958I am a secretary to one of the buyers1800.1376
1412 1800.7997for a chain of stores.1802.1574 
1413DCA_int_031802.0723Oh I see. [Well that sounds pretty interesting.]1804.7480
1414DCA_se1_ag3_f_011803.3818[<laugh>]1804.3004
1415DCA_int_031805.0605Uh1805.3514
1416DCA_se1_ag3_f_011805.3056Not really. It sounds [big. <laugh>]1808.1539
1417DCA_int_031806.3913[It isn't? Oh- Yeah, sounds good anyway <laugh>.]1809.0088
1418 1809.9134[Sounds real] good.1810.8040
1419DCA_se1_ag3_f_011810.0952[Ah.]1810.3564
1420 1811.2516Oo.1812.8743
1421DCA_int_031812.8588Um,1813.4246
1422 1816.1745what was I gonna- Oh.1816.9423
1424 1818.3241Is there anything in your past that you1820.8525 
1426 1822.0952would rather have done over again if you had the chance?1824.9956 
1428 1826.4026Is there anything that uh,1827.9045 
1430 1828.6548you wish you had done.1829.8205 
1431DCA_se1_ag3_f_011830.6132No.1831.2567
1433 1832.2546Uh,1832.9074 
1435 1833.5310even with the shortcomings and the misgivings, I1836.9583 
1437 1837.4246wouldn't want to relive my life, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere than what-1841.1118 
1438DCA_int_031841.3309[/You're ??/]1842.2915
1439DCA_se1_ag3_f_011841.6153[where I am] now. And1842.9489
1440 1843.6857/what I'm in now./1844.6929
1441DCA_int_031844.9388Very good.1845.4937
1442DCA_se1_ag3_f_011845.4844/Bip/.1845.7455
1443DCA_int_031846.7807Very good.1847.4988
1445 1848.1979Um,1848.5903 
1447 1850.9482what's your favorite holiday?1852.2678 
1448DCA_se1_ag3_f_011853.8951What is my [favorite holiday?]1855.6157
1449DCA_int_031854.6412[Mm-hm. Mm-hm.]1855.6017
1450DCA_se1_ag3_f_011856.3292Uh,1857.0006
1452 1857.7082Christmas I think.1858.8833 
1453DCA_int_031858.9113Of course. [<laugh>]1860.8743
1454DCA_se1_ag3_f_011859.4335[<laugh>]1860.9163
1455DCA_int_031861.6437I knew that. And why?1863.1906
1456DCA_se1_ag3_f_011864.3564Well, um,1865.8858
1458 1866.5666to me, Christmas is family time,1869.1439 
1460 1870.4123and1870.8786 
1462 1871.4755it's uh, the closeness and the spirit.1873.9934 
1464 1874.4597You know everybody's uh, rushing around1876.7854 
1466 1877.6107to get things for everybody [else, and]1880.1706 
1467DCA_int_031879.5505[Mm-hm.]1880.0820
1468DCA_se1_ag3_f_011880.6964you know, you have more company then,1882.7387
1470 1883.4941then you do any other time.1885.1075 
1472 1886.9202[And] everybody's in a gay mood.1888.7574 
1473DCA_int_031886.9342[Uh]-1887.5683
1474 1890.1189What- what- Is there anything special that you-1892.6276
1476 1892.8363you- your family1894.1046 
1478 1894.6175uh, does1895.6900 
1480 1896.3614Christmas.1896.8382 
1481DCA_se1_ag3_f_011898.7340No,1899.3352
1483 1899.4797except we stay home and enjoy each [other.]1902.2134 
1484DCA_int_031902.0024[Mm-hm.]1902.4640
1485DCA_se1_ag3_f_011903.2240Mm.1903.5131
1486DCA_int_031904.1147What kind of-1904.7302
1488 1904.8223you know, like1905.4098 
1490 1905.7595decorations or anything?1907.1957 
1491DCA_se1_ag3_f_011907.2423Well, we have a [tree.]1908.6692
1492DCA_int_031908.0164[Are you much on] that? <laugh>1909.4199
1493DCA_se1_ag3_f_011909.4852We have a tree, and uh, lights in the window. And uh, my children love to go to the tree and get candy and-1915.8162
1495 1916.5145and cookies. I1917.4471 
1497 1917.7129have an old fashioned tree-1919.0511 
1499 1919.2563put lots of junk on it.1920.5060 
1500DCA_int_031920.5899[Mm-hm.]1921.2240
1501DCA_se1_ag3_f_011920.8230[/May/.]1921.3406
1502DCA_int_031921.3546Very good. <laugh>1922.3758
1503DCA_se1_ag3_f_011922.3711Like that.1922.9540
1504DCA_int_031924.4729Um,1924.9672
1506 1925.1677let's see now. Okay.1926.4267