Line | Speaker | St Time | Content | En Time |
1 | DCA_int_01 | 0 | She's got us | 0.7800 |
3 | | 1.2064 | on the air now. | 1.9796 |
5 | | 2.5831 | Not really. | 3.0919 |
7 | | 4.1049 | But uh- | 4.5763 |
9 | | 4.6785 | uh | 5.0726 |
11 | | 5.2397 | first question is what kind of | 6.3470 |
13 | | 6.4343 | games | 6.8408 |
15 | | 6.9111 | did- | 7.0708 |
17 | | 7.3152 | did you | 7.6194 |
19 | | 7.7491 | play when you were a kid, coming up | 9.0634 |
21 | | 9.4001 | around ten years old or so? | 10.8421 |
23 | | 11.1289 | You remember? | 11.5504 |
24 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 12.1166 | Oh, | 12.2338 |
26 | | 12.4183 | football, mostly | 13.5735 |
27 | DCA_int_01 | 13.9875 | Mm-hm. | 14.2868 |
29 | | 14.6534 | Anything else? | 15.2644 |
30 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 16.0630 | I- I played | 16.8287 |
32 | | 17.2452 | golf occasionally, | 18.3126 |
34 | | 18.4522 | but I never developed | 20.1294 |
36 | | 20.3382 | you know | 20.7621 |
38 | | 20.8295 | professional status. | 21.9518 |
39 | DCA_int_01 | 22.5558 | Mm-hm. | 22.9474 |
41 | | 23.7878 | Well how bout the | 24.3215 |
43 | | 24.7904 | sort of | 25.1396 |
45 | | 25.2473 | kid- | 25.4443 |
47 | | 25.7012 | kiddish games that the children play? Did you ever play any of those? | 29.2905 |
49 | | 30.1085 | Like the game where one kid hides his eyes and everybody else hides | 33.3687 |
50 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 33.5675 | Oh well | 34.3687 |
52 | | 34.6281 | we used to play | 35.3469 |
54 | | 36.6288 | hide and go seek quite frequently. | 38.4665 |
56 | | 38.9005 | You know, in my younger years, you know. | 40.6072 |
57 | DCA_int_01 | 40.7748 | Mm-hm. That's what I mean. | 41.7848 |
59 | | 42.1315 | Yeah. | 42.3260 |
61 | | 42.7275 | Were you /down when you/ | 43.4825 |
63 | | 44.7943 | were little | 45.5624 |
65 | | 45.8168 | kid. | 46.0762 |
67 | | 47.2633 | How do you play hide and s- hide and go seek? | 49.2435 |
68 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 50.7978 | Well, it- | 51.3844 |
70 | | 52.3770 | sometime it would be at least twelve or | 54.7662 |
72 | | 55.5852 | eleven kids there | 57.1440 |
74 | | 57.9537 | We would- | 58.4483 |
76 | | 59.0568 | as soon as the sun go down we would | 60.8175 |
78 | | 61.1049 | always team up, and uh | 62.8527 |
80 | | 65.1281 | they would choose. We would toss a coin. | 67.1832 |
82 | | 68.2466 | Though, and those days it was a | 69.9261 |
84 | | 70.7106 | soda cap. | 71.5037 |
85 | DCA_int_01 | 71.8379 | Mm-hm. | 72.3866 |
86 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 72.6958 | And uh, if it came up with the cork, | 75.2107 |
88 | | 76.5475 | or if it came up with the top | 78.0090 |
90 | | 78.0938 | whichever one hit. | 79.1113 |
91 | DCA_int_01 | 79.4527 | Mm-hm. | 79.8461 |
92 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 79.5951 | It was just like tossing a coin. | 81.1025 |
93 | | 81.2322 | Uh, | 81.7110 |
95 | | 84.6439 | whichever side you choose | 86.4346 |
97 | | 86.5753 | that would be the one that | 87.7325 |
99 | | 88.0268 | would be | 88.5704 |
101 | | 88.7999 | it | 89.0513 |
103 | | 89.3087 | they called it. | 89.9820 |
105 | | 90.1716 | And it would | 91.1342 |
107 | | 91.4036 | have to be | 92.0670 |
109 | | 92.4062 | the one that go | 93.2651 |
111 | | 93.4496 | seek out the others, you know. | 94.7266 |
112 | DCA_int_01 | 95.2603 | What happens if you find somebody? | 96.8315 |
113 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 97.3467 | Well then they would be it. | 98.9065 |
114 | DCA_int_01 | 100.0347 | The first one you find? | 101.2867 |
115 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 101.7905 | No. | 102.3491 |
117 | | 102.5586 | It would go through a stage. | 104.0799 |
119 | | 104.7034 | The last one it would have to /catch/ the last one. | 107.0787 |
120 | DCA_int_01 | 107.4977 | Mm-hm. | 107.9167 |
122 | | 109.4180 | Mm that's good. | 110.0166 |
123 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 111.1253 | Something similar to tag and swimming, you know. | 113.7965 |
124 | DCA_int_01 | 114.3072 | Well how is that- | 114.8060 |
126 | | 115.1202 | how does that work? | 115.5193 |
128 | | 115.7088 | Tag and swimming? | 116.4770 |
129 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 116.6216 | [Yes.] | 117.0207 |
130 | DCA_int_01 | 116.9458 | [How] do you play it swimming? | 117.8337 |
131 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 118.9669 | Well, if- | 119.6653 |
133 | | 119.7850 | but- uh- say if you have seven, eight guys, uh | 122.6979 |
135 | | 124.3499 | or, sometimes it'd be | 125.4972 |
137 | | 125.6518 | girls, | 126.1863 |
139 | | 126.4548 | and | 126.8688 |
141 | | 127.6962 | you say well, uh | 128.7692 |
143 | | 130.5410 | you're it. | 131.1295 |
145 | | 131.9690 | And he- he lose the toss up, | 134.0026 |
146 | DCA_int_01 | 134.0225 | Mm-hm. | 134.4608 |
147 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 134.6460 | well everybody who jumps in the water, well the first one he tag | 137.4325 |
149 | | 137.7146 | would be it. | 138.3132 |
150 | DCA_int_01 | 138.5526 | Mm-hm. | 138.8668 |
151 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 139.0264 | And | 139.4005 |
153 | | 139.9862 | then | 140.4002 |
155 | | 140.5448 | when he | 140.9339 |
157 | | 141.2232 | gets another one | 141.9913 |
159 | | 142.1010 | he would be it. It just keeps on til it | 143.8069 |
161 | | 144.6604 | materialized, | 145.5233 |
162 | DCA_int_01 | 146.0283 | Mm-hm. | 146.4081 |
163 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 146.4710 | and the group would be finished, you know. And then they organize again, you know. | 149.7419 |
164 | DCA_int_01 | 150.8365 | That's interesting. | 151.4699 |
166 | | 152.5822 | Can you play that running too? | 153.9240 |
168 | | 154.0936 | Or- | 154.2532 |
169 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 154.7779 | Oh sure, | 155.3765 |
171 | | 155.7406 | sure, sure. | 156.4190 |
172 | DCA_int_01 | 157.3118 | Was there any other ways of picking people to be it in these games beside flipping the bottle cap? | 162.2159 |
173 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 163.8221 | No, that's | 164.6563 |
175 | | 164.7298 | that's basically uh, | 165.9918 |
177 | | 167.4742 | you know [for-] | 168.3022 |
178 | DCA_int_01 | 167.8234 | [Did you ever] use any rhymes? | 169.1951 |
179 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 170.4470 | No. | 170.8261 |
180 | DCA_int_01 | 170.8561 | Uh, Tarzan was in a tree and he fell out. | 173.0059 |
181 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 175.6056 | Well once upon a time they- | 177.2549 |
183 | | 177.8402 | they'd use a thing | 178.7230 |
185 | | 178.8278 | called eenie meenie miney moe, | 180.4199 |
186 | DCA_int_01 | 181.1482 | Mm-hm. | 181.4225 |
187 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 181.6120 | you know. | 181.8964 |
189 | | 182.1358 | Something like that, but | 183.3379 |
191 | | 184.1509 | most of the time in- | 185.0238 |
193 | | 185.2083 | in these events, we just | 186.6782 |
195 | | 187.4838 | take the soda cop | 188.5103 |
197 | | 188.7258 | uh | 189.1698 |
199 | | 189.3892 | top and | 189.8930 |
200 | DCA_int_01 | 190.0726 | Mm-hm. | 190.4417 |
201 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 190.4467 | flip it. | 190.8357 |
202 | DCA_int_01 | 191.9830 | Sounds like a quick and easy way. | 193.4205 |
203 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 193.6599 | Yeah. | 194.0839 |
204 | DCA_int_01 | 195.0865 | What would you | 195.5104 |
206 | | 195.7299 | do a team two? | 196.6178 |
208 | | 197.5306 | Two people against each other, and | 198.9830 |
210 | | 199.9457 | the one was left? | 200.7039 |
212 | | 200.8136 | Or how would that work if you had twelve? | 202.1703 |
213 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 203.1330 | Well, it had odds. | 204.6843 |
214 | DCA_int_01 | 204.9496 | Mm. | 205.4392 |
215 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 205.7626 | It had odds. | 206.6946 |
216 | DCA_int_01 | 209.4238 | Okay. | 209.9625 |
218 | | 210.8204 | Um, | 211.2893 |
220 | | 214.0287 | Do you have any favorite TV programs? | 215.8542 |
221 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 216.8219 | Yes. | 217.2858 |
222 | DCA_int_01 | 218.2495 | What are some of those? | 219.2670 |
223 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 221.2273 | Well | 221.6413 |
225 | | 221.9705 | I definitely believe in | 223.5726 |
227 | | 223.7122 | Outcasts. | 224.6151 |
229 | | 226.9544 | Uh | 227.7475 |
231 | | 230.5367 | The Big Valley, | 231.5343 |
233 | | 234.7615 | /"Prairie Mason"/. | 235.5047 |
234 | DCA_int_01 | 236.3886 | Mm-hm | 236.7776 |
236 | | 237.6755 | What about "The Outcasts" then? | 239.2595 |
238 | | 240.1345 | Can you tell me sorta what that's | 241.5761 |
240 | | 241.7407 | like? | 242.1846 |
241 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 243.4076 | Well to be frank with you, it's more like uh, | 246.0014 |
243 | | 247.7601 | I don't know, it's- | 248.7597 |
245 | | 249.9628 | it's a togetherness thing. | 251.3444 |
247 | | 251.5381 | You see two people striving to | 253.7287 |
249 | | 253.9481 | do one thing, | 254.9008 |
251 | | 255.6799 | and | 256.2137 |
253 | | 257.0067 | similarly it's just like out here in the street everyday. | 259.5805 |
255 | | 260.4085 | When we try- try to get together and | 262.1104 |
257 | | 263.7464 | something pulls apart, but | 265.3875 |
259 | | 265.9112 | these people s- | 266.5547 |
261 | | 266.7741 | keep | 267.0086 |
263 | | 267.2540 | together | 267.9931 |
265 | | 268.6451 | regardless, you know. | 269.8028 |
266 | DCA_int_01 | 270.0794 | Mm-hm. | 270.4843 |
267 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 270.3016 | It's togetherness. | 271.3989 |
268 | DCA_int_01 | 271.6455 | Mm-hm. | 271.8935 |
270 | | 272.7212 | Do you remember a | 273.6046 |
272 | | 273.6694 | episode, or | 274.6321 |
274 | | 275.3903 | one show that you saw that you thought was | 277.2059 |
276 | | 277.3705 | better than the others, that you remember better? | 279.2809 |
277 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 280.6224 | Yes, I | 281.5065 |
279 | | 281.6462 | can remember one but | 283.0079 |
281 | | 283.0977 | I can't give you the date | 284.4827 |
283 | | 284.9432 | really | 285.3522 |
285 | | 285.4220 | because it was back in the winter time, but- | 287.7025 |
286 | DCA_int_01 | 288.2063 | Can you remember what happened? | 289.2388 |
287 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 289.7625 | I really | 290.5667 |
289 | | 291.2440 | thought that uh, | 292.0720 |
291 | | 293.3000 | well I knew that this man was really | 295.3301 |
293 | | 296.6519 | together with this | 297.6495 |
295 | | 298.5453 | fella | 298.9094 |
297 | | 299.0092 | by being a | 299.8771 |
299 | | 300.1564 | racial thing, you know. | 301.2837 |
300 | DCA_int_01 | 301.3435 | Mm-hm. | 301.6927 |
302 | | 303.2399 | Well what happened on that one that you remember? | 305.2650 |
304 | | 305.3648 | Can you remember the | 306.1178 |
305 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 307.0308 | [Well] | 307.5745 |
306 | DCA_int_01 | 307.1598 | [story?] | 307.5772 |
307 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 310.9523 | I can give you a brief | 312.1095 |
309 | | 312.2142 | episode of it, | 313.3415 |
311 | | 313.4213 | thing that I seen or- | 314.6683 |
313 | | 316.0859 | I remember they came into town | 318.2363 |
315 | | 318.8542 | and | 319.3505 |
317 | | 321.2843 | this is a fugutive thing, you know. | 323.2595 |
318 | DCA_int_01 | 323.2795 | Mm-hm. | 323.5538 |
319 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 323.5438 | They were bounty hunters. | 324.8158 |
320 | DCA_int_01 | 324.9953 | Mm-hm. | 325.3146 |
321 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 325.6687 | And | 326.3038 |
323 | | 328.2235 | the minute they got into town, the d- | 329.8181 |
325 | | 330.0741 | the dude they- they were hunting for | 332.0343 |
327 | | 333.5766 | somebody ambushed him, | 335.0630 |
329 | | 335.5019 | and killed him, | 336.1354 |
331 | | 337.6168 | and | 338.3002 |
333 | | 338.6942 | the sheriff got shot | 339.9113 |
335 | | 341.2191 | the same time. | 342.3383 |
337 | | 343.3520 | And he knew | 344.6807 |
339 | | 345.3042 | these two fellas had bounty hunters, and he knew they were | 348.0536 |
341 | | 348.2431 | capable | 348.8267 |
343 | | 349.1060 | of taking care of themselves. | 350.7322 |
344 | DCA_int_01 | 350.7510 | Mm-hm. | 351.2563 |
345 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 352.0250 | I mean | 352.5487 |
347 | | 352.6335 | even | 353.1223 |
349 | | 353.4216 | if one was black or white, | 354.8432 |
351 | | 355.5614 | he deputized the black one. | 357.4851 |
352 | DCA_int_01 | 357.4752 | Mm-hm. | 357.8499 |
353 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 359.4730 | And uh | 360.2860 |
355 | | 362.9945 | this man wanted | 363.8773 |
357 | | 364.0369 | to | 364.3462 |
359 | | 364.6854 | take over this town and make it wholesome again, | 367.3693 |
361 | | 367.8986 | and uh | 368.6817 |
363 | | 373.6307 | the white fella told him he was crazy, you know. | 376.0100 |
365 | | 376.5587 | So | 377.0275 |
367 | | 378.2256 | well you know, they live in a town was /pall/ white. | 380.8094 |
369 | | 381.4079 | And back in those days when the west was really like that | 384.4965 |
370 | DCA_int_01 | 384.6874 | Mm-hmm | 385.0941 |
371 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 385.1798 | it seemed crazy for a colored man try to rule the whole | 388.1358 |
373 | | 388.4619 | town, that were white. | 389.8036 |
375 | | 390.6929 | S- | 390.8969 |
377 | | 391.0366 | But | 391.5155 |
379 | | 393.2563 | down the line, he deputized this white fella. | 395.7852 |
380 | DCA_int_01 | 396.0171 | Mm-hm. | 396.3037 |
381 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 396.4544 | And | 396.9084 |
383 | | 399.0782 | he came in | 399.9760 |
385 | | 400.6623 | on the scene, and | 401.6919 |
387 | | 402.4550 | he really | 402.9897 |
389 | | 403.2741 | produced. | 403.9674 |
391 | | 404.8752 | He showed that he was a part of- | 406.4863 |
393 | | 406.6409 | he was | 407.0898 |
395 | | 409.0012 | in other words, what they call this day, a soul brother. | 411.8044 |
396 | DCA_int_01 | 412.0128 | Mm-hm. | 412.3570 |
397 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 412.5714 | So | 413.0852 |
399 | | 413.3994 | you know | 413.6937 |
401 | | 416.3433 | that | 416.5478 |
403 | | 416.9768 | took care of this thing pretty nice you know. | 419.0468 |
404 | DCA_int_01 | 421.5717 | How bout "The Big Valley"? | 422.6441 |
406 | | 422.7538 | Do you remember an episode of that? | 424.2103 |
407 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 425.6568 | Oh I've watched "The Big Valley" for years. | 428.0777 |
409 | | 429.4985 | I seen one, I think I seen 'em [all]- | 431.4488 |
410 | DCA_int_01 | 431.2060 | [<laugh>] | 431.9373 |
411 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 432.3466 | [all of 'em was] | 433.4699 |
412 | DCA_int_01 | 432.3892 | [/unintelligible/] | 433.5316 |
413 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 434.3727 | yeah. | 434.5822 |
414 | DCA_int_01 | 436.2183 | You can't remember the story of one of them? | 437.8952 |
415 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 438.9876 | Of "The Big Valley"? | 440.0600 |
416 | DCA_int_01 | 440.1868 | Mm-hm. | 440.5446 |
417 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 443.3869 | Well, | 443.8658 |
419 | | 444.1910 | to be discrete, I say | 445.6475 |
421 | | 445.8071 | I seen one where | 447.1244 |
423 | | 448.3609 | the son, | 449.1613 |
425 | | 451.0436 | he was similar to a outcast is- | 453.1934 |
427 | | 455.1555 | His father, | 456.1554 |
429 | | 457.0020 | well he was uh | 458.0096 |
431 | | 459.8401 | whatcha call it, a | 460.7280 |
433 | | 461.5061 | illegitmate child. He wasn't born by his mother, | 464.1412 |
435 | | 464.2654 | and | 464.5298 |
436 | DCA_int_01 | 464.4771 | Mm-hm. | 464.8254 |
437 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 466.1908 | they | 466.5050 |
439 | | 467.0969 | finally | 467.6672 |
441 | | 468.1510 | accepted him as a son | 469.8525 |
443 | | 469.9327 | and a brother, you know. | 471.1248 |
445 | | 471.7533 | And | 472.2244 |
447 | | 474.8010 | this man, | 475.5791 |
449 | | 476.9966 | this son | 477.6501 |
451 | | 477.7944 | he had | 478.4082 |
453 | | 479.1265 | killed this other man's son in a | 481.1815 |
455 | | 481.5207 | fair duel. | 482.2589 |
457 | | 482.8485 | And this- | 483.4171 |
459 | | 483.5802 | this man he had | 484.5843 |
461 | | 484.8985 | cash money. | 485.6171 |
463 | | 486.0659 | He was | 486.6695 |
465 | | 487.4241 | in the millions, | 488.2804 |
467 | | 488.4500 | and uh | 489.0136 |
469 | | 490.2666 | he hired this | 491.3340 |
471 | | 493.4489 | gun-slinger to come shoot him down so. | 495.6610 |
473 | | 497.9440 | by doing so | 498.9316 |
475 | | 500.8629 | this man s- saved his life when he first came to town. They had other | 505.4070 |
477 | | 505.8609 | people looking for him to kill him. | 507.6615 |
478 | DCA_int_01 | 508.0463 | Hm. | 508.3225 |
479 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 508.4805 | And he saved his life, | 509.7724 |
481 | | 509.9420 | and | 510.2562 |
483 | | 510.6054 | they gave him uh | 511.5182 |
485 | | 512.0519 | shelter in their home, | 513.3338 |
487 | | 513.4445 | treated him like he was a | 514.9010 |
489 | | 515.2152 | emperor, | 515.8627 |
491 | | 516.3874 | what's | 516.5420 |
493 | | 516.8613 | /what so for/. | 517.5695 |
495 | | 518.3527 | And | 518.8365 |
497 | | 519.1856 | later | 519.6196 |
499 | | 520.4064 | he found out that this fella was the one that he | 522.8827 |
501 | | 523.5158 | had been sent to kill. | 524.9278 |
502 | DCA_int_01 | 525.1123 | Mm. | 525.2719 |
503 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 526.1508 | So he played it as long as he could so finally | 529.0357 |
505 | | 530.6699 | they had a show down in town one day. | 532.6351 |
507 | | 533.0900 | He | 533.4891 |
509 | | 533.7684 | figured that only way he could get this boy to draw on him | 536.2624 |
511 | | 536.4818 | was to | 537.2849 |
513 | | 537.7936 | harass his sister which he's- | 539.3309 |
515 | | 539.6402 | was deeply in- | 540.3983 |
517 | | 541.4059 | in love with, | 541.9945 |
519 | | 542.3935 | family-wise you [know.] | 543.6804 |
520 | DCA_int_01 | 543.3961 | [Mm-hm.] | 543.7502 |
521 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 544.2793 | So, | 544.7179 |
523 | | 545.6816 | he did so, | 546.5195 |
525 | | 547.0233 | and the boy didn't draw, | 548.1805 |
527 | | 549.3597 | and | 549.8714 |
529 | | 550.0809 | he | 550.3004 |
531 | | 551.1045 | just beat him | 551.7828 |
533 | | 552.4013 | up and down the street. | 553.3839 |
535 | | 553.6483 | His sister was screaming please don't draw, please. | 555.9029 |
537 | | 556.3069 | So | 556.6111 |
539 | | 557.2795 | he didn't, | 557.8092 |
541 | | 557.9788 | and | 558.3180 |
543 | | 560.1412 | as time | 560.8669 |
545 | | 561.6200 | came to pass | 562.5578 |
547 | | 562.8521 | his mother went into town and offered him a reward not to k-kill her son, | 567.0231 |
548 | DCA_int_01 | 567.1549 | Mm-hm. | 567.4750 |
549 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 568.2101 | which wasn't | 568.9134 |
551 | | 569.0581 | actually her son, | 570.2951 |
553 | | 570.6003 | out of birth, | 571.6428 |
555 | | 571.9820 | but | 572.3062 |
557 | | 572.4808 | as an adopted kid t- they had accepted him. | 575.2192 |
559 | | 575.8377 | So | 576.3913 |
561 | | 577.0108 | they- he gave him a whole lot of money | 579.0010 |
563 | | 579.3202 | and | 579.7392 |
565 | | 580.2031 | at the end | 580.8416 |
567 | | 582.1095 | they were supposed to meet | 582.9525 |
569 | | 583.0422 | to shoot it out. | 583.7256 |
571 | | 583.8802 | Sh- | 584.0847 |
573 | | 584.8112 | so, when they sh-sh- got ready to shoot it out, it was the sa-same fella that hide him. | 588.9031 |
575 | | 590.1411 | He shot | 590.8893 |
577 | | 591.0189 | this man, | 591.7821 |
579 | | 592.3707 | and | 592.8445 |
581 | | 593.5578 | for him, | 594.2659 |
583 | | 595.4093 | cause he seen a gun flash | 597.0154 |
585 | | 597.9332 | and | 598.4570 |
587 | | 599.4945 | the son of the w- | 600.3424 |
589 | | 600.9868 | woman I was talking about, uh Barbara Stanwyck, as it is, | 604.0744 |
591 | | 605.2515 | he shot | 605.8850 |
593 | | 606.4187 | this fella | 607.0023 |
595 | | 607.4273 | but he thought he was drawing for his protection, | 609.7916 |
596 | DCA_int_01 | 609.9238 | Mm-hm. | 610.2878 |
597 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 610.5547 | but he was actually drawing to save him because | 612.8492 |
599 | | 613.1235 | this man wanted him dead. He thought this other guy was riding out on the whole deal. | 616.7139 |
600 | DCA_int_01 | 617.6286 | Hm. | 617.8431 |
602 | | 619.1898 | That's quite a | 619.6886 |
604 | | 620.5875 | complicated plot | 621.5801 |
606 | | 621.7546 | there, for awhile [there.] | 623.3059 |
607 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 623.1862 | [Indeed.] | 623.7348 |
608 | DCA_int_01 | 625.1065 | What about movies? Have you gotta favorite movie | 627.4419 |
610 | | 627.6763 | that you've seen you could talk about? | 629.3523 |
611 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 630.6441 | Well, | 631.0881 |
613 | | 632.6204 | to tell the truth, I uh | 634.0120 |
615 | | 635.1941 | I went to see The Wild Bunch. | 636.8052 |
616 | DCA_int_01 | 636.9100 | Mm-hm. | 637.2891 |
618 | | 639.0907 | Frank was gonna tell about that one. | 640.8315 |
619 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 640.9362 | It was a tough [thing.] | 641.9089 |
620 | DCA_int_01 | 641.7094 | [Haveta] ask him. | 642.2431 |
621 | | 642.7519 | <laugh> | 643.7495 |
622 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 642.9514 | It's a tough thing. | 643.7844 |
623 | DCA_int_01 | 644.5276 | What happened in the -? | 645.3408 |
624 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 646.8230 | Well, | 647.2869 |
626 | | 648.7384 | actually I can't ex- state | 650.1481 |
628 | | 650.9081 | state it | 651.4069 |
630 | | 651.6174 | as it was stated on film because uh, | 654.1463 |
632 | | 655.2187 | they stated that uh | 656.3161 |
634 | | 656.7201 | if you wasn't over 18 you couldn't be- | 658.9706 |
635 | DCA_int_01 | 658.8110 | <laugh> | 659.4146 |
636 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 659.7887 | be admitted, you know, but | 661.4097 |
638 | | 661.4796 | you know. | 661.9385 |
640 | | 662.4522 | Quite a few was admitted anyway. | 664.1691 |
641 | DCA_int_01 | 664.3187 | Mm-hm. | 664.6878 |
642 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 665.2315 | It was- | 665.7203 |
644 | | 666.4486 | it was- | 666.9224 |
646 | | 667.7255 | that's about the best movie I've seen in | 669.6209 |
647 | DCA_int_01 | 670.0077 | [Mm-hm.] | 670.2663 |
648 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 670.0159 | [quite awhile.] Everything was | 671.5772 |
649 | | 672.0610 | right straight to the point. | 673.1334 |
650 | DCA_int_01 | 673.4812 | Mm-hm. | 673.7982 |
652 | | 674.6846 | What was the story about? | 675.7670 |
653 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 678.9154 | Well, | 679.2596 |
655 | | 681.2398 | they were professionals. | 682.6165 |
656 | DCA_int_01 | 682.9327 | Mm-hm. | 683.2403 |
657 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 683.6051 | Back in the old days, | 684.8421 |
659 | | 686.1589 | you know bank robbers and things like that, | 688.2588 |
661 | | 688.8384 | but they already had a name /ekstablished/. | 691.3523 |
663 | | 692.5373 | So, okay these uh | 694.1955 |
665 | | 697.8526 | officers, they enter | 699.2685 |
667 | | 699.6283 | this city. | 700.3516 |
669 | | 700.8404 | They all, it was about | 701.8589 |
671 | | 702.5323 | eight of 'em on horseback, | 703.9539 |
673 | | 704.7220 | but they already had | 705.8094 |
675 | | 706.1037 | people planted there, waiting you know. | 708.0799 |
677 | | 708.7982 | They had civilian clothes on, but these | 710.6686 |
679 | | 711.2722 | eight that entered, | 712.3380 |
681 | | 713.0828 | they had regular military uniforms on. In the old days | 716.5155 |
683 | | 716.7250 | with they | 717.1490 |
685 | | 717.4682 | washed out hat type [things.] | 718.9347 |
686 | DCA_int_01 | 718.6322 | [Mm-hm] | 718.9617 |
687 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 720.0031 | And they enter, | 720.7662 |
689 | | 722.3175 | and | 722.7714 |
691 | | 724.2548 | time they got there, | 725.3701 |
693 | | 725.4998 | and entered the bank, | 726.4226 |
695 | | 727.1717 | they had this | 727.8601 |
697 | | 728.3040 | the- this reception waiting on 'em, | 729.9168 |
699 | | 730.0166 | for 'em on top of the roof. | 731.2785 |
701 | | 731.3983 | They- they were bounty hunters. | 732.9096 |
702 | DCA_int_01 | 733.4615 | Mm. | 733.6687 |
703 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 733.9920 | And | 734.4319 |
705 | | 734.9108 | they went in the bank, | 735.8235 |
707 | | 736.0580 | so they | 736.5019 |
709 | | 737.5244 | got the little money | 738.5520 |
711 | | 738.6467 | that they thought they were getting, | 739.9935 |
713 | | 741.0519 | and when they came out, | 742.0694 |
715 | | 743.0221 | got ready to get out of there, uh | 745.0273 |
717 | | 746.2543 | they discovered | 746.9078 |
719 | | 747.1631 | they | 747.3826 |
721 | | 747.5921 | could see the gleam from rifles on rooftops, so | 750.3804 |
723 | | 750.5051 | they said well we can't make it. | 751.6698 |
725 | | 752.4526 | So that's about that time church meeting was /turning out/. | 755.2239 |
727 | | 756.4352 | So this man, well he was very /??/ conman. | 759.3796 |
729 | | 759.9503 | So William Holden | 760.9079 |
731 | | 761.2670 | actually p- | 761.8032 |
733 | | 762.0426 | and | 762.3586 |
735 | | 762.5453 | William | 763.0001 |
737 | | 763.1581 | uh | 763.5699 |
739 | | 764.3359 | William Holden and Ernest Borgnine | 766.2472 |
741 | | 766.4291 | and um | 767.0228 |
743 | | 770.0534 | I can't think of the name of the last fellow, | 771.6870 |
745 | | 771.8306 | but they features, they was on the side by side | 774.2772 |
747 | | 774.6315 | and uh | 775.5699 |
749 | | 777.0119 | Cary Grant, | 777.7636 |
751 | | 778.7326 | he was | 779.4029 |
753 | | 779.5969 | one of the opposed ones that was | 781.4938 |
755 | | 781.6375 | seeking, | 782.2694 |
757 | | 782.6764 | you know, | 783.0690 |
759 | | 783.3371 | for him, | 783.8398 |
761 | | 785.2331 | and uh | 785.9644 |
763 | | 789.5909 | they waited til this | 790.6394 |
765 | | 790.7495 | church turned out. | 791.7310 |
767 | | 792.3974 | And | 792.7038 |
769 | | 792.9337 | the people come down the river. | 794.4801 |
771 | | 795.4855 | I mean the street, excuse me. | 796.8883 |
772 | DCA_int_01 | 797.1829 | /??/ | 797.6192 |
773 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 798.1858 | It's uh | 798.8810 |
775 | | 799.0246 | stating, | 799.5896 |
777 | | 800.6477 | shall we gather at the river | 802.2228 |
779 | | 802.3378 | singing this song. | 803.2666 |
780 | DCA_int_01 | 803.3799 | Mm-hm. | 803.7185 |
781 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 803.9464 | So when they got him | 804.6129 |
783 | | 804.7278 | right in front of this uh- | 806.1354 |
785 | | 807.9787 | it's a railway express building that they was taking, | 810.4827 |
787 | | 810.7852 | and | 811.2832 |
789 | | 813.4855 | they said let's go. | 814.3808 |
791 | | 816.1437 | So all of 'em | 816.9432 |
793 | | 817.1778 | broke out | 817.8098 |
795 | | 817.9726 | in the street, and | 819.1791 |
797 | | 819.6292 | everybody starts shooting. | 820.7399 |
799 | | 820.8740 | They killed a lot of innocent people, | 822.4731 |
801 | | 823.0294 | women | 823.5848 |
803 | | 824.1593 | and everything else. | 825.3453 |
805 | | 826.5101 | And | 826.8788 |
807 | | 827.8133 | they left this one | 828.8858 |
809 | | 829.3598 | specific idiot | 830.4274 |
811 | | 830.7434 | to guard | 831.4669 |
813 | | 832.2133 | I think it was three womens and | 833.7214 |
815 | | 834.6129 | oh | 834.9384 |
817 | | 835.3598 | a fella, young fella, and a old man. | 837.5478 |
819 | | 838.0342 | He told him say if they holler, kill 'em, | 839.8315 |
821 | | 839.9369 | you know. | 840.3160 |
823 | | 841.2018 | So uh | 841.8481 |
825 | | 843.2414 | After they shot up the whole town, I mean people just laying in the street just like Vietnam I guess. | 848.2216 |
826 | DCA_int_01 | 848.2798 | Mm-hm. | 848.5779 |
827 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 849.2414 | And | 849.6818 |
829 | | 850.8644 | it was five of 'em that got away, | 852.7199 |
831 | | 853.6566 | that | 853.8768 |
833 | | 854.1067 | l-lived to uh | 855.4281 |
835 | | 855.6818 | get away | 856.3425 |
837 | | 856.6681 | out of the whole bunch that were. | 858.0901 |
839 | | 859.4699 | And | 860.0779 |
841 | | 861.2031 | after- after they got away, | 862.9841 |
843 | | 864.8044 | this fella that they told to kill these if they said anything, well he was left holding the whole bag by hisself. | 869.9847 |
845 | | 871.0246 | So | 871.6997 |
847 | | 872.4179 | he made one mistake. He looked out the window and all of 'em ran. He went out and shot all of 'em. | 876.9576 |
849 | | 877.5465 | So, | 877.9678 |
851 | | 878.0301 | by the way they had | 879.0307 |
853 | | 879.7148 | the /??/ was getting itself together, they can't even | 881.8363 |
855 | | 882.2059 | investigate. | 883.1922 |
857 | | 884.2024 | They found him so they shot him | 886.0074 |
859 | | 886.9602 | two times. So he fell | 888.6263 |
861 | | 889.2066 | and he act like he was dead. | 890.5663 |
863 | | 891.7536 | And | 892.1175 |
865 | | 894.6560 | out of nowhere he just came to life again and shot about five or six more of 'em just like that. | 899.2091 |
867 | | 899.9321 | So | 900.4252 |
869 | | 901.0581 | then the hunt was on. | 902.1545 |
871 | | 902.2599 | This man | 902.9302 |
873 | | 903.2366 | that was pursuing them, that | 904.5532 |
875 | | 904.7160 | was charge of the railroad, | 906.3965 |
877 | | 907.0581 | he was uh, he had some connection with the president and | 910.3330 |
879 | | 910.8022 | This fella | 911.3767 |
881 | | 912.5794 | and really s- way he r- | 913.9439 |
883 | | 914.2359 | remembered how they had treated him down there so he told him say if you don't get 'em say | 918.0661 |
885 | | 918.4597 | I'm'a send you back so. | 919.8338 |
887 | | 920.6381 | That was Cary Grant's g- job to | 922.5819 |
889 | | 922.7208 | go | 923.0799 |
891 | | 923.2618 | seek them out so | 924.3390 |
893 | | 925.2305 | it was a chase. | 926.3077 |
895 | | 927.4855 | Morning, noon, and night, | 928.5867 |
897 | | 928.8261 | you know. | 929.2283 |
898 | DCA_int_01 | 929.4284 | Mm-hm. | 929.7548 |
899 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 930.5028 | So finally they chased him across the border. | 932.9302 |
901 | | 933.2892 | They got across the border, | 934.5867 |
903 | | 936.3113 | and the fella that was with 'em, one of 'em was Spanish. | 938.9924 |
905 | | 939.6914 | When he came to his home land | 941.4772 |
907 | | 942.2299 | he found that the girl that he was supposed to marry had went off | 945.3802 |
909 | | 945.7728 | with uh | 946.3617 |
911 | | 947.3288 | this bandit. | 948.0518 |
913 | | 948.3591 | And uh | 948.9241 |
915 | | 949.3646 | he had taken her | 950.3891 |
917 | | 951.4041 | but to come to find out, | 952.4814 |
919 | | 952.7926 | the bandit hadn't really taken her. She wanted to go. She was tired of | 955.8529 |
921 | | 956.7243 | the old way of life. She- | 958.1750 |
922 | DCA_int_01 | 958.2373 | Mm. | 958.3597 |
923 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 958.7495 | and the city where they were, | 960.0470 |
925 | | 960.6320 | which was a little small town, | 962.1833 |
927 | | 962.6956 | she had everything you know, | 963.8630 |
928 | DCA_int_01 | 963.7877 | Mm-hm. | 964.0953 |
929 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 964.6825 | clothes | 965.3444 |
931 | | 966.0575 | and things she wanted to uh | 967.5321 |
933 | | 967.8864 | consume. | 968.5806 |
935 | | 969.8877 | Some water, | 970.5771 |
937 | | 970.7399 | anything, you know. | 971.6065 |
939 | | 972.9863 | So | 973.6470 |
941 | | 973.8673 | uh | 974.3317 |
943 | | 977.3968 | he came to this town after they ran across the border. He seen her. | 980.8535 |
945 | | 981.0259 | So he tried to talk to her. | 982.5676 |
947 | | 982.8309 | He tried to express his love to her | 984.6139 |
949 | | 984.7086 | and all that. | 985.1922 |
951 | | 986.9349 | And she snatched away from him and went up | 988.5331 |
953 | | 988.6920 | and sit where all the | 989.9129 |
955 | | 990.2442 | Mexico gentlemen /was were/, | 992.2264 |
957 | | 992.9062 | so she was | 993.8303 |
959 | | 994.8883 | making the passionate love to him. | 996.6272 |
961 | | 996.7134 | Uh, you know, | 997.7332 |
962 | DCA_int_01 | 997.9407 | Mm-hm. | 998.2640 |
963 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 999.3227 | and he couldn't take it. He jumps up and he shoots her. | 1002.2050 |
964 | DCA_int_01 | 1002.7613 | Hm. | 1002.9480 |
965 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1004.0348 | And when he shoots her, they thought that he was tryna assassinate the gentlemen | 1007.3480 |
967 | | 1007.7837 | because blood was all over him. | 1009.3263 |
969 | | 1009.5082 | They had magnums, | 1010.5615 |
971 | | 1010.7147 | forty four magnums. | 1011.7441 |
973 | | 1011.8207 | They make quite a hole. | 1012.8453 |
974 | DCA_int_01 | 1013.0638 | Mm-hm. | 1013.3193 |
975 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1014.1485 | And after that | 1015.0725 |
977 | | 1015.6183 | yeah- all these men ran down there and grabbed this girl | 1018.0265 |
979 | | 1018.3234 | so | 1018.7208 |
981 | | 1020.1772 | the other four | 1020.9720 |
983 | | 1021.1491 | told 'em say f- | 1021.7428 |
985 | | 1021.8816 | you know, hold it, say. | 1022.9732 |
987 | | 1023.5909 | He wasn't tryna kill the gentlemen, say he | 1025.4762 |
989 | | 1027.1807 | was in love with this girl, and | 1028.5021 |
991 | | 1029.3074 | he was trying to uh, | 1030.4708 |
993 | | 1031.7539 | you know he just went off behind them. | 1033.2238 |
995 | | 1033.9036 | She doing the same to him right in front of his present. | 1036.4756 |
997 | | 1038.0077 | So | 1038.5008 |
999 | | 1039.0514 | they took him and they beat him up. | 1040.5308 |
1001 | | 1041.3467 | So they made a- | 1042.0351 |
1003 | | 1043.1028 | they made a deal | 1044.0508 |
1005 | | 1044.2135 | to hijacks | 1045.1424 |
1007 | | 1046.1909 | this uh | 1046.8851 |
1009 | | 1047.8675 | cargo train, | 1048.7916 |
1011 | | 1049.2416 | it had rifles. | 1050.4194 |
1013 | | 1051.8414 | Sixteen boxes to- | 1053.3313 |
1015 | | 1053.7957 | to the /maximum/ I think. | 1054.9639 |
1017 | | 1056.1274 | And | 1056.5008 |
1019 | | 1056.5822 | anyway | 1057.1854 |
1021 | | 1058.3355 | their sort of release of the fella that's /?/, | 1060.7102 |
1023 | | 1061.0693 | that shot | 1061.5959 |
1025 | | 1061.7348 | this girl. | 1062.3572 |
1026 | DCA_int_01 | 1062.3907 | Mm-hm. | 1062.8168 |
1027 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1063.2429 | So they gave him- | 1064.1238 |
1029 | | 1065.2070 | say they didn't need you | 1066.0878 |
1031 | | 1066.5330 | so they let him go. | 1067.3805 |
1033 | | 1068.5487 | So they rode off. | 1069.6211 |
1035 | | 1070.3249 | So they really hijacked the train. | 1072.0638 |
1037 | | 1073.0741 | They made it to the uh | 1073.9981 |
1039 | | 1075.2452 | the pursuiter | 1076.0472 |
1041 | | 1076.6314 | who | 1076.8324 |
1043 | | 1077.4606 | uh- | 1078.0495 |
1045 | | 1079.8449 | they made him look read bad | 1081.1807 |
1047 | | 1081.2812 | cause they | 1081.8845 |
1049 | | 1082.2818 | took the train and | 1083.2346 |
1051 | | 1083.6617 | derailed it. | 1084.5043 |
1053 | | 1084.8538 | Not derailed it but uh | 1086.3141 |
1055 | | 1090.0543 | you know, took it apart. | 1091.1650 |
1057 | | 1091.2820 | And | 1091.5035 |
1059 | | 1091.6821 | one, the end of it was going this way and the other part was [steering there], with with the people that had to protects it and they was gone with the rifles you know. | 1098.2518 |
1060 | DCA_int_01 | 1094.1622 | [<laugh>] | 1094.6744 |
1061 | | 1098.3141 | <laugh> | 1098.9221 |
1062 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1099.5302 | So anyway | 1100.3154 |
1064 | | 1102.5091 | after that | 1103.1985 |
1066 | | 1103.5289 | they carried the guns on his back. | 1104.8120 |
1068 | | 1105.3626 | So they had a welcome committee set up for him when they got back. | 1108.3894 |
1070 | | 1108.8730 | The whole Spanish army was there, but this man was thinking all the time | 1112.1909 |
1072 | | 1113.2164 | he wasn't expecting to find uh | 1115.4810 |
1074 | | 1116.3991 | a water cooler machine gun on- on this train | 1119.5111 |
1076 | | 1119.7266 | but he did. He found it. | 1120.8230 |
1078 | | 1121.7374 | And uh he had ammo for it, so he set it up on the wagon | 1124.7834 |
1080 | | 1125.1185 | just to protect hisself against | 1126.5692 |
1082 | | 1126.8038 | his pursuor, | 1127.6082 |
1084 | | 1127.9231 | uh whoever | 1128.7114 |
1086 | | 1129.2463 | was coming | 1129.8777 |
1088 | | 1130.2839 | to get the rifle, so when it got there in this passage, | 1132.8746 |
1090 | | 1133.6429 | well, | 1133.9687 |
1092 | | 1134.9943 | well just like any /?/, they had people all around. | 1137.4810 |
1094 | | 1138.1321 | Spanish, that is. | 1139.1577 |
1096 | | 1139.3105 | And | 1139.6001 |
1098 | | 1140.6184 | they was gonna take the | 1141.6761 |
1100 | | 1141.7565 | weapons | 1142.3840 |
1102 | | 1142.4925 | and | 1142.9068 |
1104 | | 1142.9872 | not give 'em the gold that they bargained for, see. | 1145.5371 |
1105 | DCA_int_01 | 1145.4602 | Mm-hm. | 1145.7379 |
1106 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1146.4428 | So when they got in this canyon | 1148.0998 |
1108 | | 1149.4712 | this one trooper | 1150.3198 |
1110 | | 1150.6134 | came up, | 1151.1563 |
1112 | | 1152.0862 | and he say you got the rifle? So he say yeah we got a rifle. | 1155.3961 |
1114 | | 1156.1973 | And he say come on in. He said no, you come to me. | 1158.5695 |
1116 | | 1160.1869 | So he came up there, so he told 'em what he would do so. | 1162.8220 |
1118 | | 1163.9522 | He had also- | 1164.9455 |
1120 | | 1165.2512 | was smart enough to | 1166.2526 |
1122 | | 1167.8662 | tie a | 1168.5097 |
1124 | | 1168.6746 | few sticks of dynamite together. | 1170.4120 |
1126 | | 1171.3258 | He said well if you come to this wagon | 1173.4453 |
1128 | | 1174.3783 | without the gold | 1175.1787 |
1130 | | 1176.5388 | say | 1176.9330 |
1132 | | 1177.2185 | I will blow this thing up. | 1178.4371 |
1134 | | 1178.7388 | So he lit it. | 1179.4345 |
1136 | | 1179.9131 | So he let it burn and so long so the guy say okay. | 1182.6729 |
1137 | DCA_int_01 | 1182.9263 | Mm. | 1183.2440 |
1138 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1184.3058 | Say don't do it, | 1185.0096 |
1140 | | 1185.4775 | so he cut it. | 1186.3148 |
1142 | | 1187.1942 | So he went back | 1188.0549 |
1144 | | 1188.3565 | and they made a bargain | 1189.3861 |
1146 | | 1189.8929 | that | 1190.1101 |
1148 | | 1190.3876 | he sends so many cases of rifles | 1192.5360 |
1150 | | 1193.5495 | and | 1194.0281 |
1152 | | 1194.3619 | the people that he sent with the rifle come back with so many | 1196.7710 |
1154 | | 1197.5118 | pouches of gold. | 1198.5042 |
1156 | | 1199.1929 | So they did so, | 1200.1662 |
1158 | | 1200.7815 | but at last | 1201.7436 |
1160 | | 1202.0372 | that they sent | 1202.7008 |
1162 | | 1203.9596 | was this | 1204.3939 |
1164 | | 1204.5468 | Spanish fella | 1205.5040 |
1166 | | 1206.6108 | and one of the troopers that was with them. | 1208.5734 |
1168 | | 1209.7639 | And when he sent him with him, | 1211.3565 |
1170 | | 1212.3869 | the guy there with the ri- <stutter> he told him to say um | 1215.0131 |
1172 | | 1216.7715 | we got the rifle so they throw | 1218.4647 |
1174 | | 1218.9875 | two sacks of gold | 1220.0855 |
1176 | | 1220.2544 | to one fella. | 1221.0427 |
1178 | | 1221.1271 | They didn't even throw it to the Spanish fellow | 1222.8251 |
1180 | | 1223.2233 | that was riding with the | 1224.2408 |
1182 | | 1224.6832 | outlaws. | 1225.5551 |
1183 | DCA_int_01 | 1225.3345 | Mm-hm. | 1225.7119 |
1184 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1226.2485 | So he said what is this? | 1227.3907 |
1186 | | 1228.9512 | So he said | 1229.5946 |
1188 | | 1230.0853 | that was fif- | 1230.9049 |
1190 | | 1231.0546 | that was sixteen | 1232.1016 |
1192 | | 1233.0140 | boxes of rifles. See we only received fifteen. | 1235.5679 |
1194 | | 1237.1693 | He said well, somebody else musta stole 'em. He said no, say he stole 'em. | 1240.5638 |
1196 | | 1241.0946 | That was the one that shot his girlfriend, | 1242.9053 |
1197 | DCA_int_01 | 1242.7235 | Mm-hm. | 1243.0475 |
1198 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1243.1908 | killed her. | 1243.5407 |
1200 | | 1245.8308 | So he looked around, | 1247.0035 |
1202 | | 1249.7633 | so he say well he's a thief. | 1251.3680 |
1204 | | 1251.9921 | So they took him. | 1252.7281 |
1206 | | 1254.6465 | He rode back with his gold so | 1256.4322 |
1208 | | 1256.6494 | they split up | 1257.2889 |
1210 | | 1257.8367 | the gold. They buried half of it, and they just kept enough for spending you see. | 1261.5568 |
1212 | | 1261.9035 | You know procedures. | 1262.7159 |
1214 | | 1264.6786 | So they thought about this. This man had r- ridden with them all these years | 1268.1743 |
1216 | | 1269.2723 | as a young boy. | 1270.3059 |
1218 | | 1271.5494 | So they went back to this camp. | 1273.0978 |
1220 | | 1273.6207 | They couldn't get out because the pursuers were still there, they could s- | 1276.8985 |
1222 | | 1277.1285 | take | 1277.4181 |
1224 | | 1277.8042 | high glasses- spy glasses and see 'em, | 1279.8955 |
1226 | | 1281.0015 | and when they got back | 1282.0110 |
1228 | | 1283.8578 | they /?/ 'em, they was | 1284.9316 |
1230 | | 1285.0563 | having a fiesta. They had | 1286.5524 |
1232 | | 1287.4702 | this machine gun mounted. They had rifles. | 1290.0040 |
1234 | | 1290.2935 | You know, they was into something, you know. | 1292.0993 |
1235 | DCA_int_01 | 1292.0993 | Mm-hm. | 1292.4090 |
1236 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1293.0171 | Fifteen, sixteen cases of rifles is a lot of rifles. | 1295.6112 |
1237 | DCA_int_01 | 1295.3672 | Mm yeah. | 1295.7912 |
1238 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1296.7863 | And they was built | 1297.6591 |
1240 | | 1298.0009 | something like M1s, | 1299.3362 |
1241 | DCA_int_01 | 1299.5692 | Mm-hm. | 1299.9368 |
1242 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1300.0320 | American style. | 1300.9369 |
1244 | | 1302.0147 | And | 1302.4652 |
1246 | | 1304.4326 | this man told him say, | 1305.7116 |
1248 | | 1307.1160 | to him, they was driving him around in an old antique car. | 1310.0318 |
1250 | | 1310.1404 | Dragging him. | 1310.8764 |
1252 | | 1312.0837 | Just dragging him. So they say, turn him a loose, I'll give you my part of the gold back. | 1315.8522 |
1254 | | 1316.8938 | So he said no, | 1318.1494 |
1256 | | 1318.3949 | say he stays. | 1319.5088 |
1258 | | 1321.4594 | So he say- | 1322.3120 |
1260 | | 1322.5059 | so the other one say, I'll give you my share of the gold. He says, no he stays. | 1325.9284 |
1262 | | 1327.8659 | So the other | 1328.6399 |
1264 | | 1329.4081 | general | 1329.9712 |
1266 | | 1330.2969 | say, | 1330.6991 |
1268 | | 1331.1294 | let's don't make trouble, say | 1332.2596 |
1270 | | 1332.5894 | we'll just go | 1333.2176 |
1272 | | 1334.1064 | get a drink you know. | 1335.0113 |
1274 | | 1335.1601 | They was drinking tequila, | 1336.2983 |
1276 | | 1336.4632 | wine. | 1336.9297 |
1278 | | 1338.0365 | So I mean, if you could see the way they was treating that fella, you know, they's | 1340.9443 |
1280 | | 1341.1776 | dragging him. | 1341.7446 |
1282 | | 1341.9900 | He wasn't dead, they was just dragging him. | 1343.6638 |
1284 | | 1344.6532 | But they say well | 1345.4093 |
1286 | | 1345.8678 | some- | 1346.2820 |
1288 | | 1347.6664 | you know to get that out of your st- out of your | 1349.5727 |
1290 | | 1350.5580 | thinking this. | 1351.1452 |
1291 | DCA_int_01 | 1351.1452 | Mm-hm. | 1351.5353 |
1292 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1351.9094 | So they all went and got a drink, | 1353.4867 |
1294 | | 1355.1317 | and in the meantime they | 1356.3141 |
1296 | | 1356.4749 | went, and | 1357.2150 |
1298 | | 1357.6019 | they got | 1358.0845 |
1300 | | 1359.8621 | pretty sh- pretty sharped up. | 1361.4829 |
1302 | | 1361.8529 | And they had their girls and things, so | 1363.9611 |
1304 | | 1364.7253 | later on | 1365.3527 |
1306 | | 1366.3099 | all of 'em came out, | 1367.3757 |
1308 | | 1368.9197 | and | 1369.3311 |
1310 | | 1371.2173 | then anybody realized what they were getting ready to do. | 1373.9713 |
1311 | DCA_int_01 | 1374.3512 | Huh. | 1374.5186 |
1312 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1375.0268 | So when they came out, all of 'em ran- | 1376.5068 |
1314 | | 1377.2307 | ran up to the horse. | 1378.3367 |
1316 | | 1380.6058 | They got the rifles. | 1381.8888 |
1318 | | 1382.2628 | They already had forty five though. | 1383.9729 |
1320 | | 1384.9784 | And they had forty fours | 1386.5823 |
1322 | | 1387.0416 | magnum, stuck in the bag. | 1388.4741 |
1324 | | 1389.4756 | Then they had another sack of caliber pistols stuck in the side, plus their knives. | 1394.3387 |
1326 | | 1395.3120 | They went up there, | 1396.2732 |
1328 | | 1397.4034 | and all f- | 1397.8940 |
1330 | | 1398.1603 | all four of 'em stood up and looked at the general. | 1400.4849 |
1332 | | 1400.7986 | They was partying, | 1401.6874 |
1334 | | 1401.9046 | soldiers all around . | 1403.3605 |
1336 | | 1405.0907 | So they told him they wanted | 1406.3334 |
1338 | | 1408.1038 | their companion, | 1409.1414 |
1340 | | 1409.6039 | and uh | 1410.1228 |
1342 | | 1411.8723 | the man said no. | 1413.2759 |
1344 | | 1414.4269 | So they said, we want him. | 1415.8910 |
1346 | | 1416.3936 | So everybody's tryna look. It was | 1418.2074 |
1348 | | 1418.6062 | a state of shock | 1419.4630 |
1350 | | 1419.5917 | to see somebody talk to the general like that. That's four mens and they got a whole army. | 1423.7028 |
1351 | DCA_int_01 | 1423.7069 | Mm-hm. | 1424.1694 |
1352 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1424.3463 | Plus all his lieutenants and | 1425.9028 |
1354 | | 1426.5825 | things around the table he was sitting. | 1428.4687 |
1355 | DCA_int_01 | 1428.4816 | Mm-hm. | 1428.7962 |
1356 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1429.5835 | So he said, okay. You want him? | 1431.0676 |
1358 | | 1431.3652 | So | 1431.6387 |
1360 | | 1431.9242 | you could see him | 1432.9257 |
1362 | | 1433.2120 | laying | 1433.7952 |
1364 | | 1435.1344 | on the floor. He was | 1436.3628 |
1366 | | 1437.5717 | You know of m- | 1438.0623 |
1368 | | 1438.4613 | a matter of days, he woulda died [anyway.] | 1440.5406 |
1369 | DCA_int_01 | 1440.1400 | [Mm-hm.] | 1440.5239 |
1370 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1441.6466 | Without medical care, they were just- | 1443.4765 |
1372 | | 1443.7025 | they was using him as a puppet, you know, | 1445.5646 |
1374 | | 1445.7255 | doing, do- doing that thing. | 1447.2618 |
1376 | | 1447.9496 | So he | 1448.3879 |
1378 | | 1448.5697 | picked him up, | 1449.2293 |
1380 | | 1449.4666 | stood him on his feet. So he looked, | 1451.2643 |
1382 | | 1451.7027 | and his eyes focus and he seeing his four friends. So I think he felt | 1455.1341 |
1384 | | 1455.8782 | good about dying like that. [He seeing] his four friends. | 1458.9798 |
1385 | DCA_int_01 | 1457.5044 | Mm-hm. | 1457.8937 |
1386 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1459.1165 | They had came back. | 1460.0737 |
1388 | | 1460.3311 | They hadn't deserted him. | 1461.3406 |
1389 | DCA_int_01 | 1461.5430 | Mm-hm. | 1461.9392 |
1390 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1462.9373 | The general | 1463.5526 |
1392 | | 1463.7384 | had a knife in his hand, a dagger. | 1465.4959 |
1394 | | 1466.2078 | He said, okay. You want him? | 1467.5833 |
1396 | | 1468.4480 | And he took his hand back like that, | 1470.3632 |
1398 | | 1470.9503 | cut his throat, | 1471.6984 |
1400 | | 1472.1730 | and you see blood that's splashed out like that. | 1474.7156 |
1402 | | 1475.5682 | And when they pushed him away, | 1477.1085 |
1404 | | 1480.4072 | I guess all four of 'em shot him at once. | 1482.5348 |
1406 | | 1482.6514 | He just- | 1483.1019 |
1408 | | 1483.7140 | his /just sits/ in the air, that's where they- that's how fast he shot him. | 1486.3282 |
1410 | | 1486.7987 | And everybody was so astonished and amazed about this thing | 1489.8279 |
1412 | | 1490.3226 | that they couldn't move. | 1491.3120 |
1413 | DCA_int_01 | 1491.6096 | Hm. | 1491.8751 |
1414 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1492.1164 | So another general came to the door that, | 1494.0106 |
1416 | | 1494.3091 | he was supposed to be the biggest general, | 1496.1430 |
1418 | | 1497.5868 | /??/ and shot him. | 1498.9663 |
1420 | | 1499.7715 | And when he shot him, | 1500.6482 |
1422 | | 1500.9418 | the fight was on. | 1501.8347 |
1424 | | 1502.5144 | When they got through, | 1503.6123 |
1426 | | 1503.9349 | I don't think it was a soldier in the villa. | 1505.7326 |
1428 | | 1506.9231 | But all of the- | 1507.6309 |
1430 | | 1507.7998 | all of them died that I guess that's the way they wanted it. | 1510.2942 |
1431 | DCA_int_01 | 1510.5770 | [Mm] | 1511.0170 |
1432 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1510.7245 | [All of] them died, right there. | 1512.4861 |
1433 | | 1513.4433 | So | 1513.8052 |
1435 | | 1515.1453 | that sums up that. | 1516.2473 |
1437 | | 1516.6334 | [But it was] very interesting. | 1518.2468 |
1438 | DCA_int_01 | 1516.7701 | [I think so.] | 1517.3573 |
1439 | | 1518.7617 | Mm-hm. | 1519.0794 |
1441 | | 1520.1331 | You must have left out the parts that was under eighteen <laugh> | 1524.3359 |
1442 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1523.8855 | <laugh> | 1524.3569 |
1443 | | 1524.7711 | Yes, I | 1525.4186 |
1445 | | 1525.8650 | I had better do that. | 1527.1000 |
1446 | DCA_int_01 | 1525.8811 | <clears throat> | 1526.2592 |
1447 | | 1527.6065 | Yeah. | 1527.8880 |
1449 | | 1528.4350 | Guess you have to. Well it sounds like an exciting movie. | 1530.9374 |
1451 | | 1533.0609 | Uh, what did you study in elementary school? What were the subjects they had | 1536.4038 |
1453 | | 1537.0111 | then? | 1537.1720 |
1454 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1538.6641 | In elementary school, I had | 1540.3178 |
1456 | | 1540.8769 | you know, normal basics. You know, you had the math, | 1543.7806 |
1458 | | 1544.3287 | English, | 1544.9719 |
1460 | | 1546.4157 | um, a small portion of algebra. | 1548.5473 |
1461 | DCA_int_01 | 1549.3524 | Mm-hm. | 1549.7707 |
1462 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1550.0040 | And uh | 1550.7641 |
1464 | | 1552.6825 | arithmetic | 1553.4788 |
1466 | | 1553.6317 | normally, | 1554.2912 |
1468 | | 1554.7023 | and history. | 1555.3538 |
1469 | DCA_int_01 | 1560.5789 | How about in high school? | 1561.8418 |
1470 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1562.7910 | In high school, I had | 1564.1021 |
1472 | | 1564.2348 | algebra, | 1564.9193 |
1474 | | 1565.1365 | geometry, | 1565.9569 |
1476 | | 1566.8337 | English, history, | 1568.1689 |
1478 | | 1569.0216 | music, | 1569.6814 |
1480 | | 1570.4059 | science, | 1571.4475 |
1482 | | 1573.3096 | and uh | 1574.1180 |
1484 | | 1578.4262 | And I think that just about sums it up. | 1580.2810 |
1485 | DCA_int_01 | 1580.5424 | Mm-hm. | 1580.9607 |
1487 | | 1582.4005 | What about after school was out | 1584.1299 |
1489 | | 1584.7460 | when you were in elementary school? | 1586.0652 |
1491 | | 1586.3548 | What did you do as a child? | 1587.6940 |
1493 | | 1588.1525 | After school mostly. | 1589.4797 |
1494 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1590.4900 | I uh, enlisted | 1591.7247 |
1496 | | 1592.2636 | in the uh- | 1592.9594 |
1498 | | 1593.8201 | a- after uh | 1594.9221 |
1500 | | 1595.2325 | [high school you mean.] | 1596.8413 |
1501 | DCA_int_01 | 1595.2969 | [Everyday after school.] | 1596.8010 |
1502 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1597.2233 | You mean h- | 1597.7582 |
1504 | | 1597.9955 | high school uh? | 1599.0372 |
1505 | DCA_int_01 | 1599.1538 | Elementary school every day. | 1600.5462 |
1506 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1600.5059 | Oh well, | 1601.4430 |
1507 | DCA_int_01 | 1601.4430 | [At school /?/] | 1603.0035 |
1508 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1601.9820 | [I had to-] | 1603.0156 |
1509 | | 1603.6510 | I had chores such as um | 1605.6267 |
1511 | | 1608.5400 | getting uh | 1609.3790 |
1513 | | 1610.0018 | a little coal and the wood and stuff in, | 1612.0401 |
1514 | DCA_int_01 | 1612.6269 | Mm-hm. | 1613.1673 |
1515 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1613.6161 | et cetera, like that. | 1614.8721 |
1516 | DCA_int_01 | 1617.1574 | You living in Georgia at the time or? | 1618.8778 |
1517 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1620.8130 | Well, | 1621.5130 |
1519 | | 1622.4549 | I had uh | 1623.3814 |
1521 | | 1624.2616 | I had a /part/ of Georgia at that time. I migrated here at the age of thirteen. | 1628.3958 |
1523 | | 1630.1407 | And uh | 1630.9076 |
1524 | DCA_int_01 | 1636.8691 | Okay uh | 1637.9861 |
1526 | | 1638.6037 | what about in high school? What did kids do after school in high school? | 1641.8452 |
1527 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1643.8858 | Well uh, | 1645.1623 |
1529 | | 1645.9817 | I also had my job cut out in high school, now. In high school, | 1649.4458 |
1531 | | 1650.3054 | when I, | 1650.7944 |
1533 | | 1651.0888 | when we were out of school, I- I played | 1653.3907 |
1535 | | 1653.5332 | football | 1654.1874 |
1537 | | 1654.4023 | for the team. | 1655.1602 |
1539 | | 1655.8860 | I would- | 1656.4038 |
1541 | | 1656.8845 | every evening I would have to do that. | 1658.4863 |
1543 | | 1658.7385 | You know. | 1659.2172 |
1545 | | 1660.6996 | Like | 1660.9959 |
1547 | | 1661.1278 | practice, you know. | 1662.0173 |
1548 | DCA_int_01 | 1662.0224 | Mm-hm. | 1662.4033 |
1549 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1662.4085 | And usually on Fridays we would play | 1664.4725 |
1551 | | 1664.9677 | some team here or there, you know. We would travel you know. | 1667.8913 |
1552 | DCA_int_01 | 1667.9346 | Mm-hm. | 1668.2772 |
1554 | | 1671.3975 | What about today? Do you think kids do pretty much the same thing | 1674.3984 |
1556 | | 1675.5307 | as you did, or is it different? | 1676.8896 |
1557 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1677.7090 | Oh, it's entirely different. | 1679.1093 |
1559 | | 1680.5040 | Some of them | 1681.7650 |
1561 | | 1682.1768 | might participate in sports, but | 1684.1791 |
1563 | | 1685.8581 | you got, | 1686.2956 |
1565 | | 1686.4706 | in, in the District of Columbia, kids uh, | 1689.2758 |
1567 | | 1690.1508 | they just not like they used to be. | 1691.6497 |
1569 | | 1693.3740 | They | 1693.7961 |
1571 | | 1693.9299 | seek out the happenings | 1695.5153 |
1573 | | 1696.2307 | what you might say. I mean happenings range from anything you know | 1699.3921 |
1574 | DCA_int_01 | 1699.5568 | Mm-hm. | 1699.9480 |
1576 | | 1702.7954 | Hm, that's interesting to get your opinion. | 1704.5764 |
1578 | | 1705.5955 | Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot? | 1707.2992 |
1580 | | 1708.1177 | /?/ come on you were coming up through school? | 1710.0901 |
1581 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1711.7011 | Oh yes. | 1712.4526 |
1582 | DCA_int_01 | 1713.4357 | What did they holler about? | 1714.3983 |
1583 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1716.4479 | Well we had w- | 1717.3538 |
1585 | | 1717.4722 | uh | 1717.9766 |
1587 | | 1719.2178 | a mathematics teacher | 1720.7149 |
1589 | | 1722.2058 | If sh- | 1722.4531 |
1591 | | 1722.5544 | if you | 1723.2432 |
1593 | | 1723.4182 | didn't | 1723.9381 |
1595 | | 1724.9675 | comprehend on what she was trying to explain to you after she sit up there and tried to explain it to you, | 1730.1775 |
1597 | | 1731.0062 | Well she went off her rocker. | 1732.7151 |
1598 | DCA_int_01 | 1734.3364 | Did she ever yell at you for anything? | 1735.8034 |
1599 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1736.1479 | Oh, many times. | 1737.6729 |
1600 | DCA_int_01 | 1737.6008 | <laugh> | 1738.2339 |
1601 | | 1739.3097 | You think it was fair or was she | 1740.9413 |
1603 | | 1741.0700 | just grouchy? | 1741.8781 |
1604 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1742.5328 | No. | 1743.1608 |
1606 | | 1743.3667 | I think it was fair at | 1745.0189 |
1608 | | 1745.1734 | as I look at it in this day in time, I | 1747.5977 |
1610 | | 1748.9164 | being of age now, I st- see she wanted to get this thing to me, and | 1753.0033 |
1612 | | 1754.2077 | basically, she wanted to get it to me, she figured that was her main strike. You [know], was to do this. | 1759.6596 |
1613 | DCA_int_01 | 1758.4059 | [Mm-hm.] | 1758.7972 |
1614 | | 1759.8034 | Mm-hm. | 1760.1236 |
1616 | | 1761.7916 | But at the time you didn't feel like that? | 1763.8505 |
1617 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1763.8505 | No, I thought she was a crabby old woman. | 1766.2154 |
1618 | DCA_int_01 | 1768.1854 | How about the best teacher you ever had? | 1769.9767 |
1620 | | 1770.6715 | Did you ever | 1771.1245 |
1622 | | 1772.4164 | have [one that] was [/?/] | 1773.7187 |
1623 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1772.6532 | [Well] | 1773.0959 |
1625 | | 1773.2760 | [that was] my music teacher. | 1775.1558 |
1626 | DCA_int_01 | 1775.9793 | What was so good about her? | 1777.2044 |
1627 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1778.0176 | It was a m- he. | 1779.1294 |
1628 | DCA_int_01 | 1779.2735 | It was a he? | 1779.7780 |
1629 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1780.0971 | Yes. | 1780.5603 |
1630 | DCA_int_01 | 1781.8070 | What did he do that was | 1782.9342 |
1632 | | 1783.6188 | outstanding? | 1784.3137 |
1633 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1784.8387 | Well | 1785.3801 |
1635 | | 1787.7170 | you may look at it like this. | 1789.6420 |
1637 | | 1789.9560 | You seen these things | 1791.2325 |
1639 | | 1791.3715 | they call uh teacher's pet? | 1793.0701 |
1640 | DCA_int_01 | 1793.4149 | Mm-hm. | 1793.7907 |
1641 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1794.3579 | Well | 1794.7336 |
1643 | | 1795.0116 | I wasn't his teacher's pet, | 1796.8852 |
1645 | | 1797.0550 | but uh | 1797.6624 |
1647 | | 1798.6455 | it seems like he wanted me to learn | 1800.8753 |
1648 | DCA_int_01 | 1801.2468 | Mm-hm. | 1801.5873 |
1649 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1802.1569 | what he was trying to | 1803.4026 |
1651 | | 1803.9482 | do. | 1804.4320 |
1652 | DCA_int_01 | 1804.5906 | Mm-hm. | 1804.9514 |
1653 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1805.0908 | And he, | 1806.0379 |
1655 | | 1807.1662 | not like | 1807.6912 |
1657 | | 1807.9589 | the uh mathematics teacher, | 1809.9354 |
1659 | | 1810.1387 | he took another routine. He | 1812.2825 |
1661 | | 1812.9115 | used kindness more or less, | 1814.5895 |
1663 | | 1815.6138 | and that lured me | 1816.6535 |
1664 | DCA_int_01 | 1816.8697 | Mm-hm. | 1817.2763 |
1665 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1817.5131 | in his belief, | 1818.3984 |
1667 | | 1818.9553 | and I learned. | 1819.7892 |
1668 | DCA_int_01 | 1820.3810 | Hm. | 1820.6402 |
1670 | | 1822.3628 | Was there ever a teacher you just couldn't stand? | 1824.3753 |
1671 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1825.9977 | No, | 1826.5485 |
1673 | | 1826.8727 | never. | 1827.4441 |
1674 | DCA_int_01 | 1829.8684 | Were you ever in a class where the kids played a trick on the teacher? | 1832.6726 |
1675 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1834.8674 | No, and m- | 1835.8093 |
1677 | | 1835.9586 | and in my time, you better not. | 1837.5439 |
1678 | DCA_int_01 | 1837.6675 | <laugh> | 1838.2903 |
1680 | | 1839.5781 | Teachers were tough then. | 1840.7414 |
1681 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1841.0090 | Oh they | 1841.4877 |
1683 | | 1841.6679 | had to, | 1842.1054 |
1685 | | 1842.5120 | they had to um, | 1843.4385 |
1687 | | 1844.9425 | they could beat you then. | 1846.1315 |
1688 | DCA_int_01 | 1846.3940 | Oh really? | 1846.8830 |
1689 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1847.5058 | Sure, | 1847.9999 |
1691 | | 1848.0874 | I mean | 1848.5610 |
1693 | | 1849.1220 | they could actually | 1849.8272 |
1695 | | 1850.0073 | whip you, | 1850.4294 |
1697 | | 1850.6929 | and you go home and tell you mother and she'd give you another one. | 1853.3798 |
1698 | DCA_int_01 | 1853.4879 | <laugh> | 1854.2136 |
1699 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1854.8776 | My parents, I know. | 1855.9843 |
1700 | DCA_int_01 | 1856.2159 | Mm-hm. | 1856.6585 |
1702 | | 1857.4265 | Did she use a strap or something? | 1858.9707 |
1703 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1859.8045 | Yes. | 1860.6384 |
1704 | DCA_int_01 | 1860.4231 | That'll work. | 1861.3378 |
1705 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1861.6163 | A strap. | 1862.1105 |
1706 | DCA_int_01 | 1862.5625 | Mm. | 1862.9233 |
1708 | | 1864.5358 | So the kids never put tacks on their seats or anything like that? | 1867.5624 |
1709 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1868.1131 | No. | 1868.5712 |
1710 | DCA_int_01 | 1869.0448 | Mm-hm. | 1869.5698 |
1712 | | 1871.5731 | Kay, when you were a- | 1872.4996 |
1714 | | 1873.1172 | a child, was there a group of kids that you | 1875.3202 |
1716 | | 1875.8092 | hung out with? | 1876.4475 |
1718 | | 1876.7151 | Were | 1877.0239 |
1720 | | 1877.4676 | always together with? | 1878.4302 |
1721 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1881.5185 | There were about four. | 1883.1296 |
1722 | DCA_int_01 | 1883.7894 | Can you still call their first names? | 1885.2821 |
1723 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1885.8277 | Yes. | 1886.5226 |
1724 | DCA_int_01 | 1888.5102 | What were they? | 1888.9881 |
1725 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1890.3686 | Bennett, | 1890.8473 |
1727 | | 1891.6039 | Freddy, | 1892.1392 |
1729 | | 1892.7363 | Ernest, | 1893.3797 |
1731 | | 1894.6047 | Harold, | 1895.1555 |
1733 | | 1895.8092 | and Jimmy. | 1896.3754 |
1734 | DCA_int_01 | 1896.6754 | Mm-hm. | 1897.1175 |
1736 | | 1898.7698 | Uh | 1899.0941 |
1738 | | 1899.3669 | did any of them speak any foreign languages? | 1901.4764 |
1739 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1902.6199 | At that time, no. | 1903.6391 |
1740 | DCA_int_01 | 1903.7429 | Mm-hm. | 1904.2511 |
1742 | | 1905.3026 | Were any of those white? | 1906.3063 |
1743 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1907.2586 | No. | 1907.7733 |
1744 | DCA_int_01 | 1908.8697 | Was there one of- one of those kids that everyone listened to and considered as a leader? | 1913.3899 |
1745 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1916.8705 | At that time, I would say no. | 1918.9448 |
1746 | DCA_int_01 | 1919.6173 | Mm-hm. | 1920.0044 |
1747 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1921.4463 | We all had our minds, | 1923.0636 |
1748 | DCA_int_01 | 1923.5458 | Mm-hm. | 1923.8745 |
1749 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1924.1702 | but | 1924.4482 |
1751 | | 1924.5665 | we usually, | 1925.2872 |
1753 | | 1925.8225 | if one suggested it, | 1926.9754 |
1755 | | 1929.0353 | or if the other suggested it, | 1930.5692 |
1757 | | 1931.3155 | we usually, | 1932.1391 |
1759 | | 1933.6678 | you know, | 1934.1259 |
1761 | | 1934.3009 | went along with the program. | 1935.7318 |
1762 | DCA_int_01 | 1936.6233 | It wasn't just one | 1937.6631 |
1764 | | 1938.1315 | person that always | 1938.9653 |
1765 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1939.5933 | [No.] | 1940.1234 |
1766 | DCA_int_01 | 1939.7220 | [had the best] suggestion? | 1940.7205 |
1767 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1940.8029 | No. | 1941.1168 |
1768 | DCA_int_01 | 1942.7392 | What about if a new kid wanted to get into that group? | 1945.3231 |
1770 | | 1945.5959 | What would he have to do? | 1946.5945 |
1771 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1948.8860 | Well, | 1949.3390 |
1773 | | 1950.0493 | it wasn't a violent group. | 1951.4648 |
1775 | | 1951.6912 | You | 1952.2317 |
1777 | | 1952.3707 | more or less had to be accepted. | 1954.0950 |
1778 | DCA_int_01 | 1954.4667 | Mm-hm. | 1954.7432 |
1779 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1955.9078 | If one said, oh | 1956.8353 |
1781 | | 1957.0608 | you know, he's alright | 1958.3630 |
1783 | | 1960.1079 | other ones usually | 1961.0962 |
1785 | | 1961.3752 | go along with the | 1961.9723 |
1787 | | 1962.1678 | program, but | 1962.9399 |
1789 | | 1965.5135 | we basically ah, just | 1967.4283 |
1791 | | 1968.5771 | just /as fine/, we- | 1969.7198 |
1793 | | 1971.2074 | we- | 1971.4956 |
1795 | | 1972.0978 | we would | 1972.5250 |
1797 | | 1973.2611 | just be together all the time. I don't know where, what it was. | 1976.2887 |
1798 | DCA_int_01 | 1976.4593 | [Mm-hm.] | 1976.8494 |
1799 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 1976.6335 | [We] would go fishing together. We'd go swimming together. | 1979.5366 |
1800 | | 1980.5927 | We'd play football together. | 1982.2862 |
1802 | | 1983.1303 | Baseball. | 1983.8715 |
1804 | | 1984.4171 | Softball. | 1985.2149 |
1806 | | 1986.0488 | We, | 1986.5223 |
1808 | | 1987.0535 | if we went to a playground | 1988.4844 |
1810 | | 1989.7301 | and they had a team, | 1990.7698 |
1812 | | 1991.4029 | or if we went to basketball court, and they had a team, | 1994.0650 |
1814 | | 1995.9952 | and they had uh | 1996.9320 |
1816 | | 1997.6166 | say twenty four or thirty others, | 1999.3306 |
1818 | | 1999.8618 | we would get our group | 2000.9736 |
1820 | | 2001.6170 | you know. | 2002.0236 |
1822 | | 2002.2192 | And wait til | 2003.0942 |
1824 | | 2003.3979 | this team lost and we would play them. | 2005.2149 |
1826 | | 2005.8410 | And we wouldn't split up among us. We just like that so, | 2008.5050 |
1828 | | 2009.1329 | what they call this day togetherness, you know. | 2011.1867 |
1829 | DCA_int_01 | 2011.1712 | Mm-hm. | 2011.5161 |
1830 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 2012.2573 | That's what we were. | 2013.0963 |
1831 | DCA_int_01 | 2013.4424 | Mm-hm. | 2013.9308 |
1833 | | 2015.5299 | So it would be pretty hard for another kid to- | 2017.4795 |
1834 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 2019.0690 | No, not actually. | 2020.2755 |
1836 | | 2020.4000 | Um, | 2020.8261 |
1838 | | 2021.1900 | we also- | 2022.1523 |
1840 | | 2023.8912 | one sport that we really cherished was fishing. | 2026.4287 |
1842 | | 2027.8516 | Float fishing, spinning, | 2029.3693 |
1844 | | 2029.5561 | any kind. | 2030.3077 |
1846 | | 2030.3987 | Uh | 2030.7530 |
1848 | | 2031.8398 | go spinning | 2032.5915 |
1850 | | 2032.7064 | is, wasn't- | 2033.6113 |
1852 | | 2033.7501 | it wasn't like it is now. | 2035.1635 |
1854 | | 2035.5752 | Mo- more so less than bait casting. | 2037.9452 |
1856 | | 2038.7160 | Uh | 2039.1756 |
1858 | | 2039.4485 | everybody | 2040.2193 |
1860 | | 2040.3400 | used to go there, and you go to the uh | 2042.8727 |
1862 | | 2043.1504 | to the lake you might see in 'em | 2044.5724 |
1864 | | 2044.9793 | kids there that went to school to- with you, | 2047.0773 |
1865 | DCA_int_01 | 2046.9537 | Mm-hm. | 2047.2210 |
1866 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 2047.5944 | whatever di- they didn't have to be with you, but if they came up and spoke, you know we spoke | 2051.7086 |
1868 | | 2052.0470 | but | 2052.2825 |
1870 | | 2052.4453 | the five of us would go there alone, you know. | 2054.4274 |
1871 | DCA_int_01 | 2054.6632 | Mm-hm. | 2055.0165 |
1872 | DCA_se1_ag3_m_01 | 2055.4281 | If somebody else say, you going fishing? We say yeah, if they want to go, they gotta bite. | 2059.4181 |
1874 | | 2060.5930 | Let's go, | 2061.2010 |
1876 | | 2061.2824 | [you know.] | 2061.6941 |
1877 | DCA_int_01 | 2061.3447 | [Mm-hm.] | 2061.7103 |