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1DCA_int_020.1720Alright.0.8061
3 1.1372Okay how about, when you were a youngster, what kind of games did you play?4.5680 
4DCA_se1_ag4_m_025.3597Well5.7990
6 6.1114when I was youngster?7.0393 
7DCA_int_027.0440Yeah.7.4310
8DCA_se1_ag4_m_027.6828Well I used to uh8.7086
10 9.7053play marbles, you know.11.0715 
11DCA_int_0211.1182Yeah.11.5985
12DCA_se1_ag4_m_0212.3212And uh13.0952
14 13.4123I did play a little um14.5454 
16 15.7659um16.3768 
18 16.7824we called it17.6171 
20 17.8642uh the thing you throw, Jacks! You know, [with a little] ball and21.2728 
21DCA_int_0220.0698[Yeah.]20.4382
22DCA_se1_ag4_m_0221.6820little jack, catch 'em up22.7312
24 22.8990one at a time, then24.0647 
26 24.4331then if you get the whole bunch,25.6595 
28 25.8646then you went again.26.8147 
29DCA_int_0227.1784Is that right?27.7146
31 27.9664How about tag? Do you ever play that?29.6078 
32DCA_se1_ag4_m_0229.8129Tag?30.2513
34 30.4424Yeah, you it and what not, like [that?]32.2097 
35DCA_int_0231.7341[Yeah.] How do you play that?32.9231
36DCA_se1_ag4_m_0233.2670Oh, you just run and34.6985
38 34.8291if I35.3047 
40 35.4119touch you like this here,36.3725 
41DCA_int_0236.3678Uh-huh.36.7875
42DCA_se1_ag4_m_0236.9554then you It!37.6035
43DCA_int_0238.3775Yeah.38.6387
44DCA_se1_ag4_m_0238.7925Then you got to run someplace or what not.40.5167
46 41.3840Not all over the place, just, you know43.1325 
48 43.6082[ordinary.]44.3771 
49DCA_int_0243.6082[Yeah]43.9000
50DCA_se1_ag4_m_0244.8054/Usually there isn't-/ let's say in the block like that, /put/ it like that.47.4306
51DCA_int_0247.7010Uh-huh.48.1922
53 48.3492[That's] very good. How did they decide who's gonna be it when they started the game?52.0504 
54DCA_se1_ag4_m_0248.4200[Uh-huh.]48.7314
55 53.1135Well,53.7290
57 54.5310when they started the game?55.7263 
58DCA_int_0255.7263Yeah.56.0704
59DCA_se1_ag4_m_0257.4815Uh,57.9804
61 58.6752well the kids usually, they /is/ making up stuff they hear, somebody say something like that and62.6713 
63 63.0758[then they] pick it up.63.8592 
64DCA_int_0263.0758[Mm-hm.]63.4862
65DCA_se1_ag4_m_0264.3208It's like marbles.65.0389
67 65.5192See then you shoot like I said, it's color to 'em.67.3627 
68DCA_int_0267.6211Yeah.67.9242
69DCA_se1_ag4_m_0267.9242Eh, and it's where you play Four Corner Knuckles. You shoot it [from here.]70.9844
70DCA_int_0270.4620[Yeah.]70.9341
71 72.6186You ever73.1950
73 73.6123have any rhymes that you use, like one potato, two potato, anything like that?77.2148 
74DCA_se1_ag4_m_0277.3676/Aw! You would- exactly ?? [the- the bags], the- definite-/80.7765
75DCA_int_0278.9501[Yeah, yeah.]79.4285
76DCA_se1_ag4_m_0280.9473Yeah!81.7403
77DCA_int_0281.8098What'd they do?82.6198
78DCA_se1_ag4_m_0283.1850Oh you sposta83.9154
80 84.3527Hop, skip, like this you know, and uh-86.2623 
81DCA_int_0287.0955Uh-huh.87.5378
82DCA_se1_ag4_m_0287.5229and uh88.0645
83 88.8346who would get over the line89.9328
85 90.0756would win.90.9303 
87 91.2930That's all.91.9241 
89 92.4856I'm just /ordinary/ now I don't know.93.8272 
90DCA_int_0294.4961[Yeah.]94.7961
91DCA_se1_ag4_m_0294.5377[I'm not] using no words, know what I mean like I sh-96.5617
92 96.6984should though, I mean, maybe I can, but98.0302
93DCA_int_0298.0396[Yeah that- that's good.]99.2272
94DCA_se1_ag4_m_0298.2618[I'm not. Just /ordinary/.]99.5203
95DCA_int_0299.8036Yeah, that's good. That's great, that's great. You-102.3693
97 102.9924How about uh, do you watch a lot of TV?105.2135 
98DCA_se1_ag4_m_02106.3315Not here, not lately.107.9563
100 108.4830I used to109.0992 
102 109.2420few years ago but110.2110 
103DCA_int_02110.4105Is that right?110.9398
104DCA_se1_ag4_m_02110.9398I have111.3626
105 111.5427one now but I mean it's112.7352
107 112.9041broke.113.3364 
109 113.6246It's- it like a heirloom /it's a-/.115.7563 
110DCA_int_02115.9988[Uh-huh.]116.2987
111DCA_se1_ag4_m_02116.1734[My] sister, she deceased you know,118.3339
112 118.6967we don't get it fixed, I don't care if it cost one dollar, two dollar, whatever it cost.121.9700
114 122.7401We just you know, we just uh124.0466 
115DCA_int_02125.1439Uh-huh.125.6122
116DCA_se1_ag4_m_02125.6619let it set there.126.4833
117DCA_int_02127.1265Yeah very good. How about uh,128.8793
119 129.0767movies. You go to the movies at all?130.6047 
120DCA_se1_ag4_m_02130.6097No! Last picture I saw /unintelligible/132.9601
122 133.8335<ts>133.9360 
124 134.9066I was135.3836 
126 135.9930near Maryland,136.8018 
128 136.9233anyways, Washington area, but138.6084 
130 139.6419it's still you know it's in the- it's in the District in the Maryland side.142.7214 
132 143.3177And that was for adults only.145.3401 
133DCA_int_02145.6283Uh-huh.145.9711
134DCA_se1_ag4_m_02147.1924The name of the picture was-148.1960
136 148.8568what the name of the picture now?150.1351 
138 151.3612Woman in the House something, anyway.152.8414 
139DCA_int_02153.9122What was it about?154.5691
140DCA_se1_ag4_m_02155.0121Oh, sexual acts.156.4781
141DCA_int_02157.1487Uh-huh.157.6903
142DCA_se1_ag4_m_02157.7536Mm-hm.158.1724
143DCA_int_02158.7904/Ho/?158.9575
144DCA_se1_ag4_m_02158.9347One- one colored guy and a white guy together160.7450
145 161.5251and they had this white girl with them, but they was buddies like,164.1433
147 164.4888[all], like three be buddies.166.1355 
148DCA_int_02164.5534[Uh-huh.]164.8116
149 166.2042Right.166.3940
150DCA_se1_ag4_m_02166.8307We come for, where they call, what not you know, like you uh,169.2342
152 169.7658/you go in on subject, like in here today/, ya see?171.8543 
153DCA_int_02172.0962Yeah.172.4076
154DCA_se1_ag4_m_02172.5898And uh you gotta,173.4745
156 173.6720you represent yourself, I represent myself, and she represent herself.176.1315 
157DCA_int_02176.7504Uh-huh.177.0238
158DCA_se1_ag4_m_02176.9660But one female in the whole crowd178.6356
159 178.7996so179.2945
161 180.5375then they got in to this little place down somewhere in the South there and uh183.2356 
163 184.2393by George, then they185.3722 
164DCA_int_02185.8194Uh-huh.186.1510
165DCA_se1_ag4_m_02186.1909just uh186.8418
167 187.4410shot him down and shot him down, and what not like that.190.0915 
169 191.8145But it was- it's sexy, but they- they- anyway the sheriff194.3387 
171 195.1883tooked advantage of the lady,196.6045 
173 197.3250lady in the cell.198.3486 
175 198.5986/That something/?199.2616 
177 199.4753He got some stuff in the cell.201.0355 
178DCA_int_02201.3622Is that right?202.1082
179DCA_se1_ag4_m_02202.1455Yeah!202.8345
181 203.3101After he kill the two boys,204.5970 
183 204.8488white boy and the colored boy.205.7997 
184DCA_int_02206.4452Huh.206.6755
185DCA_se1_ag4_m_02207.1605But it's sure how things happen.208.3449
187 209.1888/you know in them-/209.8650 
189 210.0701Them kind of towns, like /what that-/211.6042 
190DCA_int_02212.0239Uh-huh.212.3456
191DCA_se1_ag4_m_02212.3771It's re- realistic, I mean, it's uh very nice.214.7832
193 215.5246But uh..215.9207 
194DCA_int_02216.5364Where are you from originally? You from [Washington?]218.4343
195DCA_se1_ag4_m_02217.9353[Me?]218.3177
196 219.2817I'm born here.219.9065
197DCA_int_02220.3822Is that right?221.0571
199 222.0748Guess you've seen a lot of change, since you've come up?224.1882 
200DCA_se1_ag4_m_02224.1774I have.224.8667
201 226.3029Really have.226.8505
203 227.7484/I was born up in the hos- um/229.2265 
205 229.3897/Home/ Packer Hospital th-230.5776 
207 230.8014/New York Avenue and uh/231.9527 
209 232.2936Kirby and uh Morgan Street234.1242 
211 234.7975That's a playground now.235.8931 
213 237.0930I seen a lot.237.8366 
214DCA_int_02238.3728Is that right?238.9716
215DCA_se1_ag4_m_02240.4199I mean when I was coming up, when I was youngster,242.2326
217 242.7496say about say,243.6408 
219 244.8485fourteen or245.7521 
221 246.3872seventeen years old,247.4131 
222DCA_int_02247.4270Uh-huh.247.8980
223DCA_se1_ag4_m_02248.0321you couldn't go to /Dunbar School/249.4209
225 249.7060less you was250.3962 
227 250.5757light-skinned251.2425 
229 251.4290or had a252.0865 
231 252.7368you know a,253.2570 
233 253.5114family background.254.5998 
234DCA_int_02254.8096Is that right?255.5137
235DCA_se1_ag4_m_02255.5452But a poor guy like me had to go to Armstrong.258.0539
237 258.1937That's more like- like a trade.259.7231 
238DCA_int_02260.3014Yeah.260.5905
239DCA_se1_ag4_m_02260.7443But see uh /Dunbar/ was different.262.8844
241 264.0912I gotta be Miss So and So and So's son,265.7815 
243 265.9410you know, or So and So and So on's daughter.267.6723 
244DCA_int_02267.8879Yeah.268.1818
245DCA_se1_ag4_m_02269.4850/I'm's-/ Am I talking you to death?270.9864
246DCA_int_02271.4571Huh?271.7651
247DCA_se1_ag4_m_02271.8397Am I talking you to death?272.7910
248DCA_int_02272.8376No, no /that's what/ I want you to talk [/inaudible/.]275.6367
249DCA_se1_ag4_m_02274.7065[Yeah! Uh.] [<laugh>]276.9771
250DCA_int_02275.8987[Yeah, you keep talking.] You're a good talker.277.9292
251DCA_se1_ag4_m_02278.0216[Yeah.]278.3658
252DCA_int_02278.2501[How] about the best movie you ever saw?280.2120
253DCA_se1_ag4_m_02281.1339Uh281.5549
255 283.2709the one I saw that was Audie Murphy, that's To Hell and Back.286.1222 
257 286.5244/They was in the Service/, you [know.]288.0198 
258DCA_int_02287.7834[Uh-huh.]288.3709
259DCA_se1_ag4_m_02288.3430You- you- you know that picture? Well- uh, [/we did/.]290.9542
260DCA_int_02290.1689[Yeah, I know, we] talked about it.291.3460
261DCA_se1_ag4_m_02291.9602Oh that's when he was in the /Serv-/, he went there as a Buck Private, see?294.8991
262DCA_int_02295.5180Uh-huh.295.8593
263DCA_se1_ag4_m_02296.0729And from there, he just uh297.6358
265 298.6596/elevate us up/ but he never /got over hiding sorrow/.301.0003 
267 302.1335But he did all the damage.303.2946 
269 303.4520/He like to say, I'm ready to die, or what happened,/305.4384 
271 305.8953/is took chances that worked for the little guy or what not/.308.5578 
273 309.3960Come back safe,310.1794 
275 310.6736and he come back here,311.5036 
277 311.6630United States, /with a California Moon Star/314.0058 
278DCA_int_02314.5867[/Is that right?/]315.6727
279DCA_se1_ag4_m_02314.7397[/on our way- on our way] believe it or not, Hey Boy! No/.316.9907
280DCA_int_02317.0980Uh-huh.317.4678
281DCA_se1_ag4_m_02317.5549But anyway I'm just saying,318.5295
283 318.8838/that's how you learn this up/.319.9983 
285 320.3946Yeah, he's a-321.0941 
287 321.3354most decorated uh322.7978 
289 323.1866Army boot soldier.324.7393 
290DCA_int_02325.0704Uh-huh.325.4154
291DCA_se1_ag4_m_02325.4620It was a colonel, or what not,326.5951
293 326.8003or a general.327.8856 
295 329.4477That was that the-330.2124 
297 330.3383/They's called it the/331.0657 
299 331.1450To Hell and Back!332.2687 
300DCA_int_02333.2433Hm.333.6213
301DCA_se1_ag4_m_02333.9322The Nazis and gangster pictures too, what not. Like I used to love all them.336.9911
303 337.1403Fine pictures you know.338.1708 
304DCA_int_02338.3433Is that right, tell me about some of those [gangsters.]340.4685
305DCA_se1_ag4_m_02339.9690[I- I like the]- like uh341.6342
306 342.4549uh343.1158
308 344.0776George Raft?344.7723 
309DCA_int_02345.0323Yeah.345.4007
310DCA_se1_ag4_m_02345.7504Now I ain't talking about the-346.7677
312 348.9319that was uh Scarface, the- that- that was, there.351.3497 
313DCA_int_02351.3365Uh-huh.351.8091
314DCA_se1_ag4_m_02352.8555And uh,353.4874
316 353.7456he's have a-354.3989 
318 354.9305/Officer of the Peace took a hand, threw up the hand ?? here/357.0521 
319DCA_int_02357.3214Uh-huh.357.7543
320DCA_se1_ag4_m_02357.8296And they shoot a man down, like oh, that was good.359.8617
322 360.3243Gangster pictures you know.361.4481 
323DCA_int_02361.4403Yeah.361.7934
324DCA_se1_ag4_m_02361.7934/I was young, young man/, I like all that stuff.363.9695
325 364.4731And uh,364.9336
327 366.0632uh,366.4059 
329 366.9351Paul Muni he was uh, well he was a leader, like369.2575 
331 369.5779you know, the boss.370.5712 
333 371.7321And like he wanna get you bumped off, he don't do it hisself.374.3901 
335 375.9089He gets somebody else to do it for him.377.4057 
337 378.6543/And Joe ??? foolish ? pistol, he's up there, like, up where he do/.382.1434 
338DCA_int_02382.7845Is that right?383.4979
339DCA_se1_ag4_m_02383.4886Mm-hm.384.1834
340 384.5704Now, know385.8014
342 386.8180Al Capone?387.6479 
343DCA_int_02387.8344Yeah.388.3007
344DCA_se1_ag4_m_02389.4280Well now, he a- he died a natural life. He live in Miami Florida.392.4309
346 392.5708/I- now I saw his home/.393.6666 
347DCA_int_02394.1131Is that right?394.6091
348DCA_se1_ag4_m_02394.5700Miami beach, that's right.395.6518
349 396.1787/I was chauffering then all them/397.4798
351 397.7350[years ago.]398.3320 
352DCA_int_02397.8717[/Tell us about that/.]398.6783
353DCA_se1_ag4_m_02399.9836Yeah the White House, like you see, the white- the white house down there on Pennsylvania Avenue, that's where he live at, Al Capone.405.0417
355 405.8659Wearing twenty-five dollar shirts in the penitentiary.408.4538 
357 408.6823Twenty five dollar, like your shirts you got on, twenty five dollars.411.2935 
358DCA_int_02411.2935Dude this shirt ain't no twenty five [dollars.]413.3394
359DCA_se1_ag4_m_02412.6027[No I'm just saying], I know. [<laugh>]414.9621
360DCA_int_02413.7124[<laugh>]415.0227
361DCA_se1_ag4_m_02415.3025Am I talking too loud?416.2910
362DCA_int_02416.3609No, you talking good.417.4894
363DCA_se1_ag4_m_02417.5080I don't know I just-418.2907
365 418.5001[I- I- I- I- I-]419.3410 
366DCA_int_02418.5234[You- You- You's a] good talker.420.2906
367DCA_se1_ag4_m_02420.0388/I never been, you got a good/ gift of gab, you know. I can422.3703
368 422.7293[/know a few things/]423.5109
369DCA_int_02422.7293[You sure are a good one.]423.4972
370DCA_se1_ag4_m_02424.2343Only thing about me425.1580
372 425.4602is425.9683 
374 426.3559my eyes are bad.427.4290 
375DCA_int_02427.9576Is that right?428.5592
376DCA_se1_ag4_m_02429.2842I broke two /pair of glasses/ but I put 'em in a hip pocket.431.5119
378 431.9502/Just/432.4492 
380 433.5919/but still having the case/,435.0642 
382 435.3495well like you have in your pocket.436.4954 
383DCA_int_02436.5514Yeah.436.8918
384DCA_se1_ag4_m_02438.1927I had put 'em in my hip pocket, sat on 'em, break 'em.439.8434
386 440.1604Now this is my third eye, /actually they good/.442.1748 
387DCA_int_02442.5980Now do you use that to read? Your [magnifying [glass?]445.2512
388DCA_se1_ag4_m_02444.4532[M- yeah.]445.0515
390 445.1999Uh-huh.445.5170 
391 447.4567I mean I can see ordinary but /I mean/ like we just /ya know/451.4988
393 452.5708it gets blurry, you know, too long, you know.454.6166 
394DCA_int_02454.6959Is that right?455.2974
396 455.5306Do you have trouble reading then?456.8222 
397DCA_se1_ag4_m_02457.3538No I can read very good.458.7013
398DCA_int_02460.5141How about when you were younger, did you have a pet?462.8767
399DCA_se1_ag4_m_02463.3211Oh!463.9926
401 464.1791Dogs,464.9531 
403 465.3029and cats.466.3100 
404DCA_int_02466.5420Oh tell me about them.467.7078
405DCA_se1_ag4_m_02468.0015Oh, well468.7035
407 469.2187Well one of 'em was named Vanilla, that's my little kitten.471.4101 
408DCA_int_02471.8577Oh tell me about your little kitten now.473.6798
409DCA_se1_ag4_m_02473.6798Oh, shucks.474.7243
410 475.8575/Wasn't nothing- no, it wouldn't-won't bigger than this here/, you know.478.7867
411DCA_int_02479.0055Uh-huh.479.4592
412DCA_se1_ag4_m_02479.8243I used to play with it, and wrestle with it, and everything like that.482.3516
414 482.5754I was- I was probably about484.1049 
416 485.3814I say about nine years old.487.0054 
418 488.6985Then I like chickens.490.0256 
420 491.2377Then they had chickens, in- in- in the same city /limit/ Washington DC494.7759 
421DCA_int_02495.0865Mm-hm.495.3539
422DCA_se1_ag4_m_02495.3215you were allowed to have pets, you know like a chicken in your yard and what not like that.498.1274
423DCA_int_02498.3139Yeah.498.7010
424DCA_se1_ag4_m_02499.0507Mm-hm.499.7221
426 500.2630But no, not now, I mean- I mean that was then.502.5327 
428 502.7239Goats and everything.503.7828 
429DCA_int_02504.2528Yeah.504.8362
431 505.0227You like horses? Pretty good [/inaudible/?]506.9176 
432DCA_se1_ag4_m_02506.5754[Horses?] Yeah, but I go- can't ride 'em, I'm scared.508.6073
433DCA_int_02509.6159Is that right? [How /??/?]510.5477
434DCA_se1_ag4_m_02510.0761[I'm allergic] to a horse. I don't know why.511.8853
435 512.7153But I- I will /catch him/ by his, you know, by his514.5616
437 514.9465foot,515.1622 
439 515.3953something like that.515.9229 
440DCA_int_02516.4496Uh-huh.516.7939
441DCA_se1_ag4_m_02517.3118Aw, but I- I- I can't get on his back.519.1792
442DCA_int_02520.2576Is that right?520.8119
443DCA_se1_ag4_m_02524.0625Now, what else you want to know?525.1583
444DCA_int_02525.5500How about your [school?]526.3800
445DCA_se1_ag4_m_02526.2075[I used] to take a-527.1109
446 528.2813uh, huh?529.0320
447DCA_int_02529.2139How about your school? /Yeah, yeah/ what were you gonna say?531.5873
448DCA_se1_ag4_m_02531.5873Well I was talking about a bicycle. They get a three wheel bicycle. One wheel in front, two wheels behind.535.9328
449 536.4729I used to break it down and call it a racer.538.0790
451 538.7985/unintelligible/541.6662 
453 543.4742/Well like you- likely to be a lot/545.1477 
455 545.4191like you know, with the old empty cars, something like that/.547.6755 
457 547.9919I get behind that- like to drive549.5019 
459 549.7693<driving noise>550.2717 
461 550.3730they ain't go nowhere, just- just,551.7210 
463 552.0708/fooling with the wheel/ <laugh>553.2566 
464DCA_int_02553.5888Yeah.554.0223
465DCA_se1_ag4_m_02554.3556then I wound up being a good driver555.8778
467 557.2093after about557.8621 
469 558.7982thirty one years.559.9452 
470 559.9452\Ad561.1016
471 561.1016And that was, not this- this- but it's June now, but last year.564.4283
473 565.6608Never had a mark on my permit, nothing. Not even stop a si- uh, stop sign.569.9693 
475 570.9054Just,571.3064 
477 571.7447you know just uh572.4734 
479 573.7498well, just574.8222 
481 575.2746they got lights now you know.576.5149 
482DCA_int_02576.5604Yeah.576.9754
483DCA_se1_ag4_m_02577.0593Yeah, before they had stop lights you couldn't hardly see 'em578.9291
485 579.3395especially if you /was in the country, or Maryland, Virginia/, what not.581.5776 
487 582.1780But anyway582.7282 
489 584.0087/never had no marks, but no points there not yet anyway, but different/586.9339 
491 588.3356now.588.7795 
493 589.0453I was in /teenage then/590.0805 
494DCA_int_02590.8708Uh-huh.591.4421
495DCA_se1_ag4_m_02592.1321I remember one time I stole a Model T Ford!594.0486
496DCA_int_02594.3996Is that right?595.0222
497DCA_se1_ag4_m_02595.1572Yeah! A Model T got the596.4908
499 596.7519pretty little pedals you know.597.7207 
501 599.0974/unintelligible/600.1151 
503 600.7056where the /viaduct is/601.7225 
504DCA_int_02601.8147Uh-huh.602.3043
505DCA_se1_ag4_m_02602.6680and uh603.2602
507 603.6099me and three more other guys together you know.605.3538 
509 605.5310You know how devilish [boys are.]607.1479 
510DCA_int_02606.2806[Yeah yeah.]607.1619
511DCA_se1_ag4_m_02607.8613So we say, I wanna ride- wanna ride /in that/ automobile.610.5332
512DCA_int_02610.6943Mm-hm.611.0663
513DCA_se1_ag4_m_02611.2221/cause it would be- where I was living back then-]613.6422
515 614.6680uh six twelve con- er- uh616.6917 
517 617.0880e- L Street.617.8341 
519 619.3670Uh.619.7214 
521 619.8333/Garage around another/ /unintelligible/ /out of tune or something/622.5611 
523 623.3200/I like going and tinkering something, banging on something, something like that, you know. Mechanical in-/627.1716 
525 627.2482/inclined, I don't know what I was doing, but anyway I was, yeah whatever/. /unintelligible/632.3089 
527 632.7426/That's why I come up like that/.634.1741 
529 634.4003/Broyeah!/635.5241 
530DCA_int_02635.7798Is that right?636.5211
531DCA_se1_ag4_m_02637.6446So638.1948
533 638.6378/then we put the bicycle down/. Am I walking too fast? I mean I mean [talking too fast?]642.0219 
534DCA_int_02641.5929[You're talking great.] You're talking, you're great talker.644.2368
535DCA_se1_ag4_m_02643.8497<laugh>644.7403
536 645.4444Uh646.0879
538 646.1905then we had um647.0998 
540 648.6047<cough> excuse me.649.6632 
542 651.0481A bicycle see, /inaudible/ /break it down/.653.3609 
544 653.6069And they make a /racer/.654.7073 
546 655.1736/They go and like uh/656.1668 
548 656.6051and maybe a little girl behind you658.1579 
550 658.3864who get on-659.1744 
552 659.4075put your head on his shoulder,660.8237 
554 661.0291ride.662.0083 
556 663.0761Oh that was so fun.663.9853 
557DCA_int_02664.0926That's cool.664.7267
558DCA_se1_ag4_m_02664.6988Now I'm an old man. I can't walk to the end of the block hardly.667.1550
559DCA_int_02667.3741Shoot you ain't no old man.669.2346
560DCA_se1_ag4_m_02671.2816/I can make it, I mean/ but you know I just-673.6539
562 674.1482lot of things I see today, like this guys doing now, I mean youngsters what not678.1536 
564 679.0244we never had nothing like that.680.3860 
565DCA_int_02680.7450Is that right?681.3325
566DCA_se1_ag4_m_02681.3885Mm-mm.681.9341
568 682.7081/You know whatever/683.5474 
570 683.7794they go to store now,685.3508 
572 685.7565and- and- the guy had uh687.0901 
574 687.2859a little basket of apples around here, that pick up a apple like that.689.8831 
576 690.6047And he gonna tell your mother.691.9430 
578 692.2647And you get a whipping, better not tell the father, cause the father whip you again.695.2331 
579DCA_int_02695.6147Yeah.696.1383
580DCA_se1_ag4_m_02696.3856And he whip you, but now you can't touch a child.698.3533
582 700.2371He gonna tell you, you're not my father, you're not my mother,702.5313 
584 702.8379you know?703.3974 
586 703.8637It's different.705.0574 
588 705.8501We didn't do nothing like that.707.0065 
589DCA_int_02707.7007Is that right?708.1360
590DCA_se1_ag4_m_02708.2375No, sir.709.4347
592 709.8264Not nothing like that.710.7124 
594 712.0693But it's- it's a funny thing, it's714.2375 
596 715.9616I don't know.716.6611 
598 717.2533Right now you know I'm scared to go out in the street at night time?719.4821 
599DCA_int_02719.5754How come?720.4054
600DCA_se1_ag4_m_02721.4767I ain't looking for nothing but I mean, seeing is- /someone stop to help you, you don't know what's happening/ you gotta walk you gotta look around.726.6618
602 727.2389And in the day time.728.0456 
603DCA_int_02728.4186Somebody's /jumping/ you?729.8501
604DCA_se1_ag4_m_02729.8455Hm?730.1252
605DCA_int_02730.3211Somebody [/take it and run with it/]732.0603
606DCA_se1_ag4_m_02730.7034[Yeah] goodness.732.4555
607 733.0431Eh- /do you know what it is, catch a guy that's got money/735.6496
609 736.3164they catch the guy that don't have no money.737.9857 
610DCA_int_02738.1151Yeah.738.7586
611DCA_se1_ag4_m_02738.7773Then when you don't have no money, /well they whip you now, cause you don't have it/.741.3465
612DCA_int_02741.3978Yeah.741.8828
613DCA_se1_ag4_m_02741.8967So there you go <laugh>.744.3121
614DCA_int_02744.3681Well that's the truth.745.4021
615DCA_se1_ag4_m_02745.4207That's the- that's the God's truth, okay.747.5004
617 749.5567Now,750.0184 
619 750.5022what else?751.1736 
620DCA_int_02750.6141/inaudible/ school, when you [went to school?]753.0341
621DCA_se1_ag4_m_02752.3160[When I went to school?]753.2859
622DCA_int_02753.1600Yeah, what did you study and all that?754.7920
623DCA_se1_ag4_m_02754.8247What did I major in, or what?755.8692
625 756.0743I /ain't/ no major in nothing in particular but this757.9477 
627 758.2134ordinary common sense, I put it that a way.760.0087 
628DCA_int_02760.2232Uh-huh. Well what subjects did you study?762.3809
629DCA_se1_ag4_m_02762.5301I'm a good writer.763.9284
630DCA_int_02763.9284Hm?764.3871
631DCA_se1_ag4_m_02764.2824I can write.764.9502
632DCA_int_02765.1087Is that right?765.7895
634 766.3164You study anything else?767.5707 
635DCA_se1_ag4_m_02767.6069No, I ain't no- no.769.1130
637 769.7611/What about/ History you mean?771.0481 
638DCA_int_02771.2486Yeah like that.772.3584
639DCA_se1_ag4_m_02773.1884/Now you call me back now, I don't know too much/775.4814
641 775.9570way back now, let me see.777.0761 
642DCA_int_02777.3885Uh-huh.778.0413
643DCA_se1_ag4_m_02779.2163Uh.779.8785
644DCA_int_02780.3110Well tell me this. You ever have a teacher who used to holler a lot at you?783.5144
645DCA_se1_ag4_m_02784.2838I had um785.4402
647 785.8319/RD-NAME-2/786.8237 
649 787.2016That was uh788.1668 
651 789.3419yeah that was790.1532 
653 790.3444First and uh L.791.9065 
655 792.4229/I was at Jones school, where there's a little white thing at/794.4233 
657 795.0528/probably air conditioner with the corner over by that school now/797.3935 
658DCA_int_02797.4530Uh-huh.797.8494
659DCA_se1_ag4_m_02798.4788That was Jones school /that didn't, First Street right here/.800.9315
661 801.0668Where we at right now?802.0413 
663 803.0438Yeah.803.3889 
665 803.7794/That was bound to go in/.804.9498 
666DCA_int_02805.0524Uh-huh.805.5840
667DCA_se1_ag4_m_02805.7751/First Street and K/.807.0248
669 807.6776Still a school up there now, but I mean- it's- it's no concern what building it was.811.7751 
671 812.5165Young boys, uh, /?? what they- by the police car/, and another building next to it. Anyway, we're there at the Jones, /RD-NAME-3/,819.4771 
673 819.8908/RD-NAME-3/.820.9039 
675 821.2583/I was in Seven B then/822.5022 
676DCA_int_02822.7120Hm-hm.823.0897
677DCA_se1_ag4_m_02823.2296After I went to Armstrong.824.5976
679 825.2533/I told you I didn't go to Dunbar/.826.4610 
680DCA_int_02826.5915/Why's-/827.1324
682 827.4122yeah right.827.7759 
683DCA_se1_ag4_m_02827.7934Cause I had to be Miss So and So and So and So and So. Oh you had to830.2554
685 830.9269well, say, they had a preference there.832.8480 
687 834.0743You know you gotta be a doctor's son or doctor's daughter or what not.837.0901 
689 837.9527/Well I'm the uh, working man now/.839.7479 
691 840.7679/And well, then what you- you can rent there if you're qualified now/.843.4444 
692DCA_int_02843.8712Mm-hm.844.0366
693DCA_se1_ag4_m_02844.0366But I- /that was why they did't want you in particular/.845.9426
694 846.9265So I went to the Armstrong School to learn a trade.849.7662
696 850.3257Now850.9692 
698 851.7479uh852.6012 
700 855.4351like History, and uh I forget now.857.4681 
702 857.7852Lot of things.858.5360 
704 859.9710I'll tell you some of the things, but it may be back-861.5937 
706 862.1485further back than you would choose.863.4681 
707DCA_int_02863.4635No no! Go ahead. [This is interesting to me]865.4649
708DCA_se1_ag4_m_02864.6141[<laugh>]865.5840
709 866.3160Um866.7730
711 867.0248/I can't ever seem/.868.2978 
713 869.1697You see when you uh, you ask a person a question,871.2762 
715 871.7378you got to think, you know.872.8592 
716DCA_int_02872.8592Yeah873.2013
717DCA_se1_ag4_m_02873.4864When I come in, /somebody walk in this house,/ oh, how are you feeling?875.8132
719 876.3156/well that's hard. I get to the next halfway the block I said/879.0155 
721 879.4351I think I seen that fella somewhere before you know.881.4402 
722DCA_int_02881.6500Yeah.881.9578
723DCA_se1_ag4_m_02881.9764Then it come to me, they /down there, you know on ???/884.3067
725 884.4373/you- you- round the corner now you know?/885.9434 
726DCA_int_02885.9760Yeah.886.7407
727DCA_se1_ag4_m_02886.9783<ts>887.1651
729 887.2490That's the way it goes.888.1722 
730DCA_int_02888.2888How about when school was out? What did you used to do when you were a kid?892.1719
731DCA_se1_ag4_m_02892.3397/Got out?/892.8620
732DCA_int_02893.1138Yeah.893.3236
733DCA_se1_ag4_m_02893.2723When the school [let out?]894.3308
734DCA_int_02893.8412[When you was] coming up?894.8237
735DCA_se1_ag4_m_02895.1037Alright.895.7378
737 896.1015I'll put like it this here, second to third grade.898.0087 
739 899.4308Cause I skipped the first grade, I never went to Kindergarten.901.2995 
740DCA_int_02901.4347Was there a-902.3347
741DCA_se1_ag4_m_02902.3347first grade first, then first to the third.904.5915
742 905.4390/That's how much I had up here/.906.9265
743DCA_int_02907.0477Is that right?907.7984
744DCA_se1_ag4_m_02907.8731/RD-NAME-3/, I had. I had uh /RD-NAME-3/, then I had a /RD-NAME-2/ behind that.910.6428
746 911.0392Then Miss911.7339 
748 912.5674um913.0710 
750 913.7378/RD-NAME-3/914.5911 
752 915.0108All the women teachers.916.5216 
754 917.4355Uh, /RD-NAME-3/ was the principal.919.1410 
756 919.4767/They had over at the/ Jones school, the921.3559 
758 921.7056same old school up on L street and First street.923.8912 
759DCA_int_02923.9475/Is that right?/924.5158
760DCA_se1_ag4_m_02924.6374Mm-hm.924.9871
762 925.2622I was sitting on that side, on that side926.9782 
764 927.2486across from what do you call it there? Terrell?929.3236 
766 929.7572That high [school over there.]930.7551 
767DCA_int_02930.1722[Oh yeah.]930.8237
768DCA_se1_ag4_m_02931.2669But wasn't nothing like that then. There's houses all through there now.933.9900
769DCA_int_02934.5216Is that right?935.0671
770DCA_se1_ag4_m_02935.0345[Uh-huh.]935.6034
771DCA_int_02935.2024[Quite a bit] different, huh?936.3634
772DCA_se1_ag4_m_02937.7938Well I did go to school.939.0248
774 939.5051They give me a big pickle,940.9972 
776 941.1324sour pickle /piece of ??/.942.8237 
778 943.6539/Took down in there/944.6704 
780 945.0108that was my lunch.946.1019 
781DCA_int_02946.5029Is that right?947.4029
782DCA_se1_ag4_m_02947.4402Yes, sir.947.9904
784 948.3634Now from- from school, /it was direct home/.950.8989 
786 952.2138Then I had to, you know, tend to the house chores like955.7658 
788 956.0549cut wood or bring the coal in from the, you know, from the yard.959.3376 
790 960.5068Then I ask, could I go out?962.5865 
792 963.9760And I was seventeen years old, I didn't know what a girl was.966.6281 
794 967.0757I kn- I knew they was a girl, but I mean968.6424 
795DCA_int_02968.6984<laugh>969.1507
796DCA_se1_ag4_m_02969.1553you know.969.7289
798 969.9527Well actually-970.3164 
799DCA_int_02970.3749/Messing around/.971.1697
800DCA_se1_ag4_m_02971.1626no, no, what?!972.3121
801 972.6467/They say, he's a little boy!/974.0922
803 974.4373and I'm a big old dude. I'm bigger than I am now.976.3630 
804DCA_int_02976.6848Is that [right?]977.2816
805DCA_se1_ag4_m_02976.8853[Seventeen] years old, that's right.978.6106
806 980.1435So now, what else?981.2160
807DCA_int_02981.7475How about your best teacher. You ever remember a best teacher?984.3448
808DCA_se1_ag4_m_02984.3996Oh /RD-NAME-3/.985.1969
810 985.9663[/RD-NAME-3/]986.6891 
811DCA_int_02986.0642[What's so good] about her?987.2206
812DCA_se1_ag4_m_02987.6263Well uh988.3864
814 989.2024we had uh- had the same /corner that uh/991.7472 
816 992.6611well it was a pageant. Well no it was a play.994.8014 
817DCA_int_02995.0531Mm-hm.995.5894
818DCA_se1_ag4_m_02995.6826That was at uh996.7504
820 997.6632well see there's Tenth and U Street.999.1927 
822 1000.3770Now this is years now.1001.5707 
824 1001.7433See I was a youngster now. Now, I'm- I'm up in my teens now see.1004.9082 
825DCA_int_021004.9502Yeah.1005.4444
826DCA_se1_ag4_m_021006.7454And uh1007.4495
828 1010.7777sh- uh cause Duke Ellington's band then in that time.1014.3075 
830 1015.0524/I didn't know where they live/ /unintelligible/1017.5144 
832 1018.2371/And I didn't sleep with that lady/.1019.6500 
834 1020.0650/RD-NAME-3/1020.5861 
836 1020.7679I know her la- I know it was /RD-NAME-2/ was her last name. /RD-NAME-3/. Uh my teacher, I used to keep /me at the school, after everybody- all kids go home/.1027.3275 
838 1027.6539/I got to stay up there with her/.1029.2206 
840 1029.9026And I used to kiss her and everything like that.1031.4693 
842 1031.5509[/Yeah, I was] a young boy. Yeah! I was something, oh man I was [terrible.]/ [<laugh>]1036.9245 
843DCA_int_021031.5976[Yeah?]1032.1151
845 1035.0434[Ooh.]1035.6403 
847 1035.6980[/inaudible/]1037.0103 
848DCA_se1_ag4_m_021037.2350/But I didn- I- no, I know, was just ?? I don't understand it/.1040.2974
850 1040.5771/It's alright/1041.3698 
851DCA_int_021040.5771/Uh-huh/.1041.3698
852DCA_se1_ag4_m_021041.7604/Now, when it had this play up at Tenth and U/1044.1339
854 1044.4370/Pythian Temple, that's what is name of the place/.1046.3528 
856 1046.6901/Used to be a/1047.2912 
858 1047.6529/Club pool what do you call it, years ago/1049.4564 
860 1049.6110anyway. I went up there,1050.6178 
862 1051.0528and I saw her.1051.9032 
864 1052.1720I don't know what-1052.6412 
866 1052.7781what dawned on me, but I s- know that lady.1054.7379 
868 1055.9922And she said, /RD-NAME-2/.1057.5757 
870 1058.7487/RD-NAME-2/? That's me. I had a look around /unintelligible/ I don't know no /RD-NAME-2/.1063.4389 
872 1063.7321Forgot my own name.1064.7976 
873DCA_int_021065.1245[Is that right?]1065.4519
874DCA_se1_ag4_m_021065.2375[That] was her, her and her husband.1066.7868
875 1067.4955And we danced together. After I got to be a young man.1069.9423
876DCA_int_021070.5995Huh.1070.7603
877DCA_se1_ag4_m_021070.7603Now, I got ideas, now, you know.1072.5326
878 1073.6617Ask for a date.1074.4779
879DCA_int_021075.3460You asked for a date?1076.1622
880DCA_se1_ag4_m_021076.1622Oh yeah.1076.7096
881 1078.4642And we did.1079.2316
882DCA_int_021079.9384/Is that [right?]/1080.5181
883DCA_se1_ag4_m_021080.4370/[She's] oh my! I hear you've grown!/1082.2013
884 1082.7194you know, like that.1083.4770
885DCA_int_021083.4983[Uh-huh.]1083.9228
886DCA_se1_ag4_m_021083.7764[I'm] a big boy now you know.1084.8601
887 1085.5090<laugh> [/unintelligible/]1087.0652
888DCA_int_021086.2084[So did you go out with her?]1086.9729
889DCA_se1_ag4_m_021087.6295Huh?1088.0380
891 1089.1348[Huh?]1089.5693 
892DCA_int_021089.3604[/inaudible/]1089.7387
893 1090.2541You went out with her then?1091.1722
894DCA_se1_ag4_m_021091.2853Uh, not that- the same night. I mean, [but /I had made arrangements to phone her] and what not/ like that.1095.6382
895DCA_int_021093.0870[Yeah. Yeah /that's what you've said/]1094.5461
896DCA_se1_ag4_m_021096.3616Then uh we got together.1097.5590
898 1098.5934She say, I wouldn't have ever thought /of this yesterday, but I used to/ kiss you when /unintelligible/1101.8631 
900 1102.5375and made love.1103.5639 
901DCA_int_021103.9531/Is that right?/1104.6425
902DCA_se1_ag4_m_021104.6960Yeah.1105.2532
904 1105.6246I wouldn't- I wouldn't- I wouldn't now, if I see her, I wouldn't know her right now if I see her.1109.5053 
906 1110.1144Happened so many years ago so.1111.5122 
908 1112.3675/Hard to know/.1113.2912 
910 1113.8631Aw, twenty or th-1114.8650 
912 1114.9823twenty five, maybe thirty years ago.1116.4681 
914 1117.8641/I don't know about you, but uhhh I was a/ big old boy. I'd eat like a horse.1120.7281 
915DCA_int_021121.0660Is that-?1121.2698
916DCA_se1_ag4_m_021121.2698/Now I eat a slice of bread probably and/1123.4731
917 1123.9961have a cup of coffee something like that, that's all.1125.7213
919 1126.7868/???/1127.5248 
920DCA_int_021127.8767How about a teacher you- you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand? Who was [/really gripey/?]1131.8924
921DCA_se1_ag4_m_021131.5600[Oh], /RD- NAME-3/ was one.1133.1876
922 1133.9140The one that- in the Jones school.1135.8055
924 1136.2209/First and L/1137.7946 
926 1138.6793/What did she do?/1139.3977 
928 1139.5248/What made me angry was she cracked a couple of my knuckles/.1141.5513 
929DCA_int_021141.6833Is that [right?]1142.6021
930DCA_se1_ag4_m_021142.2062[With a- with a] ruler, you know, like [a rule-?]1143.9901
931DCA_int_021143.5394[Yeah.]1144.0733
932DCA_se1_ag4_m_021145.8180/That's way they did that in them days/.1147.2532
934 1147.4053Then they say, oh, you take a knuckle /home/, you carry a note home to your parents.1150.8949 
936 1151.8724Then you get another whipping.1152.7375 
938 1153.9740That's right.1154.2868 
940 1155.2283So,1155.8881 
942 1156.2987but she was /the teacher/ you know.1157.5645 
943DCA_int_021157.5547Yeah.1157.9946
944DCA_se1_ag4_m_021158.2976But I don't sit down and look at no TV or1160.1695
946 1160.6320picture, something like that, nothing like that.1162.1862 
948 1162.7972I'm here to learn!1163.7258 
950 1164.3612Well1164.8548 
952 1164.9037course your knuckles was hit with a ruler.1166.5361 
954 1167.5753I was a big ol' boy, crying <wails> I was crying like this, you know.1170.2781 
955DCA_int_021170.5567/Crying like that?/1171.1887
956DCA_se1_ag4_m_021171.1920/Unintelligible/ honest to goodness, I really did learn.1174.1765
957DCA_int_021174.6457How about uh,1175.6183
959 1176.1461did you ever play [a trick] on the teacher?1177.7248 
960DCA_se1_ag4_m_021176.7375[Excuse me.]1177.0845
961 1179.0230No, I's- I's a-1180.3329
963 1181.1833I have brought her apple,1182.4589 
965 1182.8841like that,1183.3875 
967 1184.2557but I never played no tricks, nuh-uh1185.7073 
969 1186.0641no.1186.5675 
971 1187.1344No tricks.1188.0972 
972DCA_int_021188.3416Yeah.1189.0503
974 1189.1578Never [put a tack] in a teacher's chair?1191.3358 
975DCA_se1_ag4_m_021189.4364[I didn't.]1190.0180
976 1191.6633<laugh> No, I didn't.1192.9145
978 1193.1246But I wo- I would /share the-/1194.1754 
980 1194.3367then I tell you what happened.1195.6514 
982 1197.1745Boys wear their hair uh1198.1862 
984 1198.2791/skinhead?/, you know. Like used to call it a mammy haircut. Your mother cut your hair with the scissors.1202.0522 
985DCA_int_021202.0815Yeah.1202.5410
986DCA_se1_ag4_m_021203.9565You going to school like that too, they had these patches on they pants.1206.9232
988 1207.0503[You know, and uh /patch/.]1208.2086 
989DCA_int_021207.0649[/unintelligible/]1208.2135
990DCA_se1_ag4_m_021208.3877Yeah.1208.8129
992 1209.7415So1210.2058 
994 1210.6163I used to go <spit noises>1211.5450 
996 1212.0826throwing spit balls.1213.0601 
997DCA_int_021213.0747Yeah yeah yeah.1213.6514
998DCA_se1_ag4_m_021214.3552<choo!>1214.7462
1000 1215.6682They look,1216.0592 
1002 1216.4355/they got to be rid of them, bald heads you know/. <laugh>1219.6612 
1004 1220.3730That was fun then, you know.1221.9663 
1006 1222.3182But otherwise it's-1223.4032 
1008 1224.2390I don't /do anything/ too bad /I don't know ???/.1226.2037 
1010 1227.0524I got locked up /but I ??? quit-/1228.3769 
1012 1228.5137drinking though /so maybe a little drunk/.1229.8577 
1013DCA_int_021229.8577Uh-huh.1230.1754
1014DCA_se1_ag4_m_021230.1999Tryna to make it home something like that, but1231.6221
1016 1232.6125/you know all that/ kinds of stuff.1233.6584 
1017DCA_int_021233.6437/Is that right?/1234.4013
1018DCA_se1_ag4_m_021235.8529As old as I am.1236.9232
1019DCA_int_021238.5050Ahh, that's good.1239.5069
1021 1240.1960/What/ a good life, huh?1241.4325 
1022DCA_se1_ag4_m_021241.6574Oh it wasn't so bad. But all I'm saying now I just can't get around like I used to.1244.7500
1024 1245.4091Leg had been busted two times in football.1247.8235 
1025DCA_int_021248.1314You played [/unintelligible/] football?1249.6221
1026DCA_se1_ag4_m_021248.6397[/unintelligible/]1249.2165
1027 1249.9447Yeah I used to be /a hundered and ninety eight pounds, man/.1251.6682
1029 1252.6799I was too big for my heigth, you know, cause1254.9916 
1030DCA_int_021255.5293Uh-huh.1255.9593
1031DCA_se1_ag4_m_021255.8647See I'm not as tall as you are.1256.9644
1032 1257.1697Cause you weight about1258.2596
1034 1258.6163a hundred and,1259.3006 
1036 1259.5107ooh, I'll say a hundred and eighty is alright for you- you /got/ the heighth you know.1262.4805 
1037DCA_int_021262.5343I weigh two hundred.1263.6633
1038DCA_se1_ag4_m_021264.5137/Unintelligible/.1266.2341
1039 1266.2341<laugh> You do?1267.3044
1041 1267.8109But you solid though.1268.8031 
1043 1269.1501[Yeah.]1269.6779 
1044DCA_int_021269.2039[I'm six feet two.]1270.3769
1045DCA_se1_ag4_m_021270.8558That's what I- yeah. Well six feet two, huh?1272.8157
1047 1273.0552That's good, nice /heighth/.1274.1646 
1049 1274.2752I wish I was your heighth.1275.2283 
1050DCA_int_021275.3994How big are you you?1276.2107
1051DCA_se1_ag4_m_021276.4160Me? I'm about five eight and a half.1278.1803
1053 1279.4755A hundred and sixty five, b- b- bu- between a hundred and sixty five and seventy two.1283.5010 
1055 1285.1138But uh1285.8616 
1057 1286.1384if I was your heighth /man/,1287.2869 
1059 1287.5606oh my goodness. I go and whip bunches of guys around my weight.1289.7111 
1060DCA_int_021290.3475<laugh> /Tell me/?1291.0454
1061DCA_se1_ag4_m_021291.0014/Big ghetto?/ old man like me, know what I say?1292.6583
1062 1292.9155oh there go Pops.1294.0983
1064 1294.5626Cause I get a little grey hair down here, [you] know, or a little bit up here.1297.1920 
1065DCA_int_021295.7747[Yeah.]1296.0923
1066DCA_se1_ag4_m_021297.5732I said, boy, respect them grey hairs though.1299.3798
1068 1300.7092Come up- s- I come up- come up- come up-1302.1314 
1070 1302.4296I come up the right way and /unintelligible/ the poor people that brought me in1306.3241 
1072 1306.9829a right way, you know?1307.9750 
1073DCA_int_021308.0386Yeah, that's good.1308.9945
1074DCA_se1_ag4_m_021308.9525She's telling all us kids to school as far as you could.1311.4824
1075 1312.0543All of us.1312.4013
1077 1312.8558Every one of 'em.1313.5938 
1078DCA_int_021313.9017Is that right?1314.4296
1079DCA_se1_ag4_m_021314.4247I'm the dumbest thing in the whole bunch.1316.3161
1080DCA_int_021316.7307Aw, I bet not1318.1365
1081DCA_se1_ag4_m_021319.9262That's right.1320.3954
1083 1320.5567I almost didn't- I almost can tell-1322.4432 
1085 1324.3573before you say /I want you to tell what's happening/. I- I- what kind of- I- I- what kind of mind is that1327.8323 
1087 1328.0473sposta be?1328.5685 
1088DCA_int_021328.7835That's a pretty good mind.1330.1032
1089DCA_se1_ag4_m_021330.5919I don't know. I ain't no/unintelligible/1332.4980
1091 1332.6544when them kind of thing like /that up/?1333.8421 
1092DCA_int_021333.8891/Yeah/.1334.3046
1093DCA_se1_ag4_m_021334.9008<laugh> You know what I'm talking- you- you- /explain it better than I can/ can't you?1338.2194
1094DCA_int_021338.2390Yeah, you're a good [man.]1339.3093
1095DCA_se1_ag4_m_021339.1187[I- I-] mean it's nice [talking to you cause]-1341.0851
1096DCA_int_021340.0211[/inaudible/]1341.0768
1097DCA_se1_ag4_m_021341.2625[huh?]1341.6584
1098DCA_int_021341.2723[Sure], you're a good man.1342.5284
1099DCA_se1_ag4_m_021342.8851Oh I ain't nothing now. I'm a-1344.2732
1100DCA_int_021345.1822How about when you g- a group of guys you go around with now?1348.4013
1101DCA_se1_ag4_m_021349.0513No, I ain't know no guys.1350.1070
1103 1350.5567That's the only /unintelligible/1351.7981 
1105 1351.9038See he live in the same house I live in.1353.4287 
1106DCA_int_021353.7561Is that right?1354.4013
1107DCA_se1_ag4_m_021355.4668Oh,1355.6574
1109 1355.8186uh that- that- /goes/ right there.1357.4217 
1111 1357.7718Well he my buddy, he call me p-1358.8666 
1113 1359.1697son you know.1359.9077 
1114DCA_int_021360.1520Uh-huh.1360.5968
1115DCA_se1_ag4_m_021361.0464But I mean he's1361.7356
1117 1362.0141nice neighbor.1362.6788 
1119 1363.2458But I just speak1364.0815 
1121 1365.8441by myself all the time, I don't be with nobody.1367.7795 
1123 1369.2898No sir.1369.9838 
1125 1371.3505Now, my wife, m- we seperated, uh,1373.3983 
1127 1373.5938I'm going into the family affairs now.1374.9672 
1128DCA_int_021375.2556Uh-huh.1375.8421
1129DCA_se1_ag4_m_021376.2850Oh, say about sixteen years,1378.0005
1131 1378.3231tried it four times.1379.6280 
1133 1380.5811It's no more,1381.2604 
1135 1381.4266but we /unintelligible/ like you and I do it, now she-1383.8099 
1137 1384.5772what's your name?1385.3104 
1138DCA_int_021385.5450Walt.1385.9946
1139DCA_se1_ag4_m_021386.3563Waldo?1386.8646
1140DCA_int_021386.9330Yeah.1387.2653
1141DCA_se1_ag4_m_021387.7834Waldo.1388.2477
1143 1388.3437/RD-NAME-2/ is mine.1389.0915 
1144DCA_int_021389.1843/RD-NAME-2/, great.1390.1569
1145DCA_se1_ag4_m_021390.3133Hey.1390.6750
1147 1390.8216Like I said, /oh well how are you?/ You know.1392.8157 
1149 1393.8061/Oh boy, what not, you know/1395.4238 
1151 1395.7561That's the way I am, with her, right today. And her boyfriend, too.1398.4394 
1152DCA_int_021398.9428She has a boyfriend?1400.1060
1153DCA_se1_ag4_m_021400.6027Yeah.1401.2088
1155 1401.2625/unintelligible/ Everybody live better than me, I ain't had nothing.1405.8469 
1157 1406.7347You know this gentleman here called /RD-NAME-2/?1408.2449 
1158DCA_int_021408.4844Yeah.1408.7532
1159DCA_se1_ag4_m_021410.0190Uh1410.7131
1161 1412.1335he knew us way way back years ago.1413.9987 
1162DCA_int_021414.6848Mm-hm.1415.0758
1163DCA_se1_ag4_m_021415.5547See,1415.9506
1165 1416.8646but he has changed.1418.5654 
1166DCA_int_021418.9742Is that right?1419.5949
1167DCA_se1_ag4_m_021419.7855Yeah, he's a preacher now.1421.2468
1168DCA_int_021421.5498Is that right?1422.3416
1169DCA_se1_ag4_m_021423.2067So now you- I go to church every now and then, but I ain't ready yet.1426.5729
1171 1427.8186See I ain't gon- I say before I die, want to be a preacher.1430.7500 
1173 1431.3994And I can talk!1432.3866 
1174DCA_int_021432.7972You sure can.1434.0239
1175DCA_se1_ag4_m_021434.1803<laugh> Am I worrying to death?1435.8500
1176DCA_int_021435.9038You a good talker.1438.1098
1177DCA_se1_ag4_m_021438.1765But I mean- no, /I'm not kidding/ but uh1439.8626
1179 1440.8792uh, d- but like I s- but I- I- I- really I- see I always down sit in the chair after church and talk to /boys/ after twelve o'clock you know?1448.6045 
1180DCA_int_021448.6760Uh-huh.1449.3407
1181DCA_se1_ag4_m_021449.3358And uh, just different little thing we used to do years back and,1452.0484
1182 1452.3954they remind me of something you know.1453.9300
1184 1454.9937Once you come on and chat, say when I get ready.1456.9585 
1186 1457.2126I say- cause I say I want to be a preacher before I die.1459.8665 
1188 1460.0766I want to be it.1460.7500 
1190 1461.1550But if I get to be a preacher,1462.5430 
1192 1462.8900then I'm ready to die! I ain't ready to die yet!1464.6691 
1193DCA_int_021464.6740Is that [right?]1465.3890
1194DCA_se1_ag4_m_021465.1040[<laugh>]1466.5392
1195 1466.8226Excuse me, I'm loud, ain't I huh?1468.1471
1196DCA_int_021468.1569No, you're a good man.1469.2713
1197DCA_se1_ag4_m_021469.2713[Oh man I-]1469.9653
1198DCA_int_021469.7453[How about uh]1470.5420
1199 1470.7668the guys you go around with, uh1472.4610
1201 1472.6711any of 'em speak any other languages or anything?1475.2664 
1202DCA_se1_ag4_m_021475.4668Uh, we had one boy down in North,1477.4755
1204 1477.7687uh, the /? Street/ down here1479.5753 
1206 1480.7581and uh1481.2370 
1208 1482.1412he just spoke- speak a little Spanish.1483.4950 
1210 1484.0864But I never, I didn't learn no kind of language.1485.9174 
1211DCA_int_021486.1667Yeah.1486.5577
1212DCA_se1_ag4_m_021486.6017No, uh-huh.1487.2517
1213DCA_int_021487.2468How about the guys you go around with, most of them [are] Negro or what?1491.5020
1214DCA_se1_ag4_m_021489.3026[/Which guys here?/]1490.0553
1215 1491.5264White? Oh, all of 'em.1492.4697
1217 1493.1540My bosses.1494.0679 
1219 1494.6642Before I even quit the man, I- I- I'd move sections.1497.2869 
1221 1498.3622/Man running behind me, acts like I was-/ my mother used to work for his father!1501.9642 
1222DCA_int_021502.3828Uh-huh.1502.6907
1223DCA_se1_ag4_m_021502.7102And it-1503.0768
1225 1503.2821/minding my business like you/- he's a Jewish1504.9585 
1227 1505.1637fella, but1505.6085 
1229 1506.1901damn niggers, damn niggers1507.9740 
1231 1509.0963Come on boy, say my heart bleed for you. What you mean when your heart bleed for me?1512.3807 
1233 1512.6544Cause I was drinking.1513.8127 
1235 1514.4365Don't nobody know what I had on my mind, but I'm just saying.1516.4355 
1237 1517.0269Good man.1517.6965 
1238DCA_int_021518.0728Mm-hm.1518.5958
1239DCA_se1_ag4_m_021518.5615See I'm a dry cleaner. I mean I take care all the1520.6320
1240 1520.7738/machinery work, anything/ what?1522.8363
1242 1523.2273That's all I want is- all I want to do man.1525.5830 
1244 1526.2606I take your /unintelligible/ make it turn- turn it pink.1528.8363 
1245DCA_int_021529.4081Shoot! I'm [/unintelligible/.]1530.8108
1246DCA_se1_ag4_m_021530.0581[<laugh>]1532.0815
1247 1532.4903Oh, oh, I'm-I'm-I'm loud /isn't I, huh/?1534.0054
1248DCA_int_021534.2449Huh?1534.5772
1249DCA_se1_ag4_m_021534.6750/Talking about, I think we got a bottle back here/.1536.2292
1251 1536.3514[<laugh>]1538.4561 
1252DCA_int_021536.3514[<laugh>]1537.6936
1253DCA_se1_ag4_m_021538.8324But I mean, I just enjoy talking to you, you know I just-1540.6945
1254DCA_int_021540.7483No, you good man.1541.9017
1255DCA_se1_ag4_m_021541.9066Mm-hm.1542.3465
1256DCA_int_021542.3172How about if you-1543.0405
1257DCA_se1_ag4_m_021543.0063And uh1543.4364
1258 1543.5439not now I /unintelligible/1545.4580
1260 1545.8881we had one fellow around /the little/ New York Avenue. He was a white fellow.1548.5860 
1262 1550.2997He can't walk too-1551.2234 
1264 1551.4140too good you know.1552.2205 
1266 1552.8216So I come by,1553.7502 
1268 1554.2585be looking for him. You know.1555.8745 
1270 1556.4805And uh, I don't go in the house though. I've been in the yard, sat on the porch and have a drink with him.1560.3954 
1271DCA_int_021560.4687Uh-huh.1560.9770
1272DCA_se1_ag4_m_021561.0845/He send me to the store/.1562.1646
1274 1562.3925/Go over there, he give me/ five dollar, ten dollar, twenty dollar, /whatever it is just to come back/1565.5938 
1276 1566.6909Count your money, now.1567.7504 
1278 1568.4952/These kid steal/.1569.6242 
1279DCA_int_021570.2862Hm-hm.1571.1915
1280DCA_se1_ag4_m_021572.4247I don't know why. That's why I don't have nothing against him.1574.6858
1281DCA_int_021574.8764Yeah?1575.4140
1282DCA_se1_ag4_m_021576.2156Can't do it.1577.0709
1284 1577.8138I mean /any- anybody over it/1579.1920 
1286 1579.6448/anybody will shi-/1580.6178 
1287DCA_int_021580.8471[Uh-huh.]1581.4629
1288DCA_se1_ag4_m_021580.8931[<creaky voice>]1581.4079
1289 1581.7317/Pick up something but I mean e-/1582.8363
1291 1583.4668like them guy go and look for something like that, and grab people, I can't do that.1586.2704 
1292DCA_int_021587.7561How about if uh, you had to do it all over again, if you had to [live- /unintelligible/]1591.7345
1293DCA_se1_ag4_m_021591.2360[Oh, if I haded] to live my life over again?1593.0768
1294DCA_int_021593.2381Yeah.1593.6926
1295DCA_se1_ag4_m_021594.9340Probably not o- ah-1595.7160
1297 1596.1412sitting here. I'd be owning the whole building.1597.9007 
1298DCA_int_021599.2736[/unintelligible/]1599.8642
1299DCA_se1_ag4_m_021599.6975[Cause I] supposed to be in business for myself, but I just messed up- then I was an entertainer.1603.1529
1300 1603.7718That's where I got so much-1604.6369
1302 1604.8520maybe a little g- gift of gab.1606.3035 
1303DCA_int_021606.6701Is that- what'd you do?1607.8724
1304DCA_se1_ag4_m_021607.8773Sing.1608.4882
1305DCA_int_021608.7033Yeah. What kind of song?1610.4463
1307 1610.8520Soul-1611.1599 
1309 1611.4140soul music I bet.1612.4306 
1310DCA_se1_ag4_m_021612.5296No. /it was New Orleans/ jazz.1613.8382
1311DCA_int_021614.2341Mm-hm.1614.9428
1312DCA_se1_ag4_m_021614.9183And a little blues.1616.1140
1313DCA_int_021616.4805Little blues-1617.4287
1314DCA_se1_ag4_m_021617.4287<imitates music>1618.8118
1315 1619.1360<imitates music>1622.8847
1317 1622.9726Mm!1623.3392 
1319 1623.7009That kind of stuff.1624.4926 
1320DCA_int_021624.7939[Yeah!]1625.3818
1321DCA_se1_ag4_m_021625.2386[Them] sounds man, yeah!1626.9932
1322 1627.1203[<laugh>]1628.7935
1323DCA_int_021627.6990[Man, you're good at that!]1628.8651
1324DCA_se1_ag4_m_021628.8798Wait a minute.1629.4125
1326 1629.6178Now you got the other stuff now, they got the you know the s-1631.8789 
1328 1632.1672the soul songs. /I'd- I'd- now/ I like 'em too now!1635.1713 
1329DCA_int_021633.3783[Yeah.]1633.6882
1330DCA_se1_ag4_m_021636.0897But I mean I'm just saying what I was doing that time.1638.2275
1332 1638.9199We had a1639.7312 
1334 1640.0978<ts> washboard,1641.1095 
1336 1642.2416kazoo, little horns you blow through like that /b-b- cost about five cents/.1645.4331 
1337DCA_int_021645.6204Uh-huh.1645.9989
1338DCA_se1_ag4_m_021646.3077Had one of them1647.1804
1340 1647.6942And had a guitar and a piano, and then they had a bass. I add the bass /player, and I went to play [??]/.1652.7771 
1341DCA_int_021652.2004[Uh-huh.]1652.7332
1342DCA_se1_ag4_m_021653.6698Yeah.1653.9044
1344 1654.3687And that's really- we're called the Washboard Blues.1656.7097 
1345DCA_int_021657.2278Is that right?1657.9463
1346DCA_se1_ag4_m_021657.8876This lady l-1658.5230
1347 1658.6256that same one that stuck her head in the door, she knew who I was.1661.0578
1348DCA_int_021661.4341Is that right? You're a- [/in a band/] huh?1663.9121
1349DCA_se1_ag4_m_021662.9199[That's right.]1663.5993
1351 1663.8730Oh yeah. I've been on1665.1437 
1352 1665.6471uh1666.0674
1354 1666.3002Art Brown had the kiddie program, that was down on F Street there, between uh1670.0978 
1356 1670.9091oh I say Twelfth, Thirteenth street over here.1672.8721 
1358 1674.0793And uh1674.6413 
1360 1674.8270you heard- you heard i- I know you heard of him /call him uh/1677.1730 
1362 1679.4683What is his name?1680.3774 
1364 1680.5045/Unintelligible/ program too.1682.2151 
1366 1683.7253Um1684.2238 
1368 1685.3657Arthur Godfrey.1686.1868 
1369DCA_int_021686.4556Oh yeah sure. Just heard him on the radio comin over here.1689.1339
1370DCA_se1_ag4_m_021689.1584Alright, now he's in Virginia, that's his home. He got his own station and everything like that- I imagine- that's what I heard, but years ago.1694.2591
1372 1694.7429Well him and I was-1695.7840 
1374 1696.1096was all us, we had a thing called1697.9766 
1376 1698.4263Going Native1699.2620 
1378 1699.4135in Washington DC, all Washington talent.1701.4027 
1380 1702.1145We was only colored boys on that thing.1703.6687 
1381DCA_int_021703.8153Is that right?1704.4605
1382DCA_se1_ag4_m_021704.4800That was the Fox Theater, but now it's- it's uh1706.2249
1384 1706.9775Capital Theater, you call it, on F Street you know.1708.8379 
1385DCA_int_021708.9894Yeah.1709.3950
1386DCA_se1_ag4_m_021709.3168Call it Capital.1710.3090
1387 1710.5876But now I- I didn't. Then it was the Fox Theater.1713.1877
1389 1714.4420/They- they would-/ Arthur Godfrey. He was the Master of Ceremony, /and what not of one of these shows/.1717.5406 
1390DCA_int_021717.6775Mm-hm.1718.1027
1391DCA_se1_ag4_m_021718.2102Just like uh, Art Brown, with the kiddie program, well he had a thing called Going Native every year.1722.9737
1393 1723.2376Had a show down at Fox Theater.1724.5132 
1395 1725.2170Now it's Loew's Capitol now, that's what it is.1727.2924 
1397 1728.4361Arthur Godfrey.1729.2767 
1399 1729.4966Great man, he wouldn't know who I was. /unintelligible/ walking up to see him, get to talking about it,1733.3804 
1401 1733.6834then it'll come to him.1734.7831 
1403 1735.1447I could tell him exactly what he did on the stage and everything.1737.4272 
1404DCA_int_021737.8426Is that right?1738.3695
1405DCA_se1_ag4_m_021738.4135Yes sir!1739.1946
1406DCA_int_021739.8838Yeah, he was a big man [in television for a while.]1742.1418
1407DCA_se1_ag4_m_021741.1741[I w-]1741.8827
1408 1742.3910Oh yeah.1743.4400
1410 1745.0822/Being there- being there now, I mean anywhere/1747.2523 
1412 1748.0782But I mean then he was, /sort of/ like you would be, you know, ordinary coming up.1750.9796 
1414 1751.5074Tryna get together, what happened.1752.8955 
1416 1753.2669The ideas he has then,1754.8113 
1418 1755.4125with people getting today, together now today. But he had a good idea- mixing the colored and the white together.1760.5719 
1419DCA_int_021760.8211Yeah.1761.5933
1420DCA_se1_ag4_m_021761.9746That's what he had.1762.7988
1422 1763.3266And we were so good1764.5387 
1424 1764.9004til1765.3891 
1426 1765.5944they had to /fold us then,/1766.9384 
1428 1767.4223I mean from Washington group,1768.6577 
1430 1768.8232there was some other couple of1770.1819 
1432 1770.7928outfits over there /from out/ Southeast1772.4204 
1433DCA_int_021772.4643Uh-huh.1772.9775
1434DCA_se1_ag4_m_021773.1535but1773.4712
1436 1773.8377/we have to know/.1774.6577 
1438 1775.4928Got it.1776.1477 
1440 1776.8857That was the Washboard Blues.1778.2933 
1442 1778.7723/Now me running my big mouth off/.1780.2238 
1444 1780.6424/Unintelligible/1783.4624 
1446 1783.7214/Boarding house is falling down/.1784.8504 
1448 1784.9971[<laugh>]1786.3998 
1449DCA_int_021785.2268[Yeah.]1785.8573
1450 1786.6033Oh I'd like to see you do [one of those routines.]1789.0421
1451DCA_se1_ag4_m_021787.9180[Huh?]1788.4703
1452 1789.0470Oh yeah.1790.1271
1454 1790.6941I got some stuff home now.1792.2140 
1456 1793.5368<cough> Excuse me1794.3676 
1458 1794.7293Uh1795.2718 
1460 1795.5357you know like ?1796.2982 
1462 1797.6080/unintelligible/ memorandum too, but I mean1800.0646 
1464 1800.4703just little sketches you know, little jokes and what not like that.1803.1046 
1466 1803.6618Original, what I had1804.7694 
1468 1805.0334figured out my own self.1805.9424 
1470 1806.2552All nice and clean, no more- no messy stuff.1808.7869 
1472 1809.0557You say it anywhere, put it that way. You can say it in church.1811.5905 
1474 1811.7811Now.1812.1624 
1475DCA_int_021812.1624Sure.1812.8857
1476DCA_se1_ag4_m_021813.0225/Yeah I got it on/.1813.7605
1478 1814.5328All that kind of stuff. I just-1815.9306 
1480 1816.3100Sometime I get to myself- you ought to see me when I go to the bathroom, man I /feel it/1818.8222 
1482 1819.0714<hums> you might think I'm crazy in there, you know, cause I be humming to myself.1823.8202 
1484 1824.3530And I better not hear no piece on that radio like an old time song, you [know.]1827.8035 
1485DCA_int_021827.5200[Yeah.]1827.9599
1486DCA_se1_ag4_m_021828.4420Man I had a fit.1829.4390
1488 1830.5436Oh yeah.1831.6921 
1489DCA_int_021832.4704Is that right?1833.1328
1490DCA_se1_ag4_m_021833.5622Now there's this stuff they playing now, you all call it uh rock and roll, whatever it is.1837.9414
1492 1839.3050You ain't got but two, three words, you about, about eight bars. The whole song is eight bars.1843.9072 
1494 1844.3226When I was doing our numbers,1845.9257 
1496 1846.2171we was- I mean1847.2875 
1498 1847.9766it was different.1848.7342 
1500 1849.0177You had to get that melody.1850.2884 
1502 1850.9922Wasn't no jive, like it is now.1852.5513 
1504 1853.2728All you get's /hollering/.1854.3481 
1506 1854.6853AH! oo.1855.5944 
1508 1855.7948WA! you know.1856.8016 
1509DCA_int_021856.7967Yeah.1857.2512
1510DCA_se1_ag4_m_021857.3685Don't say anything.1858.2092
1512 1859.1849Well you had to come up with a re- real melody then, son.1861.8143 
1514 1862.0880That's right.1862.6892 
1515DCA_int_021862.8790Is that right?1863.6536
1516DCA_se1_ag4_m_021863.7253Oh yeah. <laugh>1865.3413
1517DCA_int_021865.3266Hey, you're a good man.1866.5876
1518DCA_se1_ag4_m_021867.4771I can't do nothing now.1868.8456
1519DCA_int_021869.9777I'd be [interested]-1871.0773
1520DCA_se1_ag4_m_021870.6277[I still] can do my number though.1872.0597
1521DCA_int_021872.5045Is that right?1873.1105
1522DCA_se1_ag4_m_021876.4957Now what else you want to know about them uh youngster days now if you want to hear my younger days.1879.9463
1523DCA_int_021880.3617Yeah.1880.8602
1524DCA_se1_ag4_m_021880.8407Well now, you ain't no psychologist are you?1882.6577
1525DCA_int_021882.9747No I ain't no psychologist.1884.3188
1526DCA_se1_ag4_m_021884.3188<laugh> [You psyching me /now/.]1887.1550
1527DCA_int_021887.6242I wouldn't psych you dude!1888.6799
1528DCA_se1_ag4_m_021888.7043No I [mean-]1889.3152
1529DCA_int_021889.1344[I] wouldn't jive [you!]1890.3123
1530DCA_se1_ag4_m_021889.9311I won't- /and I'm'a-/ out- I just out- try to out talk you, I /got enough to tell you-/ talking to you, but I mean, I like to enjoy the conversation.1895.9702
1531DCA_int_021895.9799That's what I'm [doing.]1896.8206
1532DCA_se1_ag4_m_021896.6837[Because] uh1897.3435
1533 1897.5830you know uh-, you /go ??? right now-/ now I know a guy right now, and all he want is a bottle.1901.6280
1535 1902.1266Okay.1902.6055 
1537 1902.7521Well, that's- that's nice.1904.1060 
1539 1904.6369Some day you gonna get away from that stuff.1906.1374 
1541 1906.2889Now I got about two,1907.3934 
1543 1907.7307no one, two,1908.9721 
1545 1910.2948well another guy, a third guy.1911.8099 
1547 1912.2987Now I meet them guys and they had a fit because you-1914.5127 
1549 1914.7766you talk some in common, you know.1916.1873 
1550DCA_int_021916.2215Yeah.1916.6125
1551DCA_se1_ag4_m_021916.7298The other guys-1917.2869
1553 1917.5118well you know /unintelligible/ sixty cents.1921.4559 
1555 1922.1628I don't want to hear that stuff man.1923.4922 
1557 1924.2498Well get away from it!1925.1882 
1559 1925.5156My environment is very good but1927.1578 
1561 1928.0846people that you hang out with, most of my life is entertainment world.1931.3446 
1563 1931.9506But1932.4149 
1565 1932.4882Yeah.1933.1334 
1567 1933.6270But now, all I know that the older guy wanna1936.0201 
1569 1936.4013/they get- they get a box that got all them custom thing ??/1938.8694 
1571 1938.9673them girls.1939.6710 
1572DCA_int_021940.3730Is that right?1941.0084
1573DCA_se1_ag4_m_021941.0377Talk out of turn /man/.1942.1667
1575 1942.5471<laugh>1944.0493 
1577 1944.1754Wife and all of em.1945.0552 
1579 1945.5928I'm scared of 'em man. I'm scared- more /of them/ than I am you.1948.4013 
1581 1949.3397What?1949.7258 
1582DCA_int_021949.7111You ain't got to be scared of [me.]1950.8450
1583DCA_se1_ag4_m_021950.7131[No] I'm just saying, you know, you know.1952.4139
1584 1952.7102Man that /woman is double trouble/.1954.4111
1586 1954.4746No, I'm just saying you know,1955.5205 
1588 1956.0972well I mean more so than a man.1957.4657 
1589DCA_int_021957.6368Uh-huh.1958.0424
1590DCA_se1_ag4_m_021959.1941But, but she very nice.1960.7092
1592 1961.8529I remember that girl.1962.9623 
1594 1964.0553I was only- no I was nineteen years old then.1965.8001 
1596 1965.9565She was seventeen. That's when I married her.1967.5254 
1598 1967.8138Cause you my buddy, you getting married, I'll getting married too. I don't know what I was doing.1970.5996 
1599DCA_int_021970.7151Yeah.1971.4776
1600DCA_se1_ag4_m_021971.7219Just getting married cause you getting married, you know.1973.4423
1601DCA_int_021973.4374Yeah.1973.9457
1602DCA_se1_ag4_m_021974.0141And man, I had to work like a dog.1975.9789
1604 1976.0846And then,1976.5636 
1606 1976.7151kids I got now. My boy's bigger than I am!1978.6408 
1607DCA_int_021979.9702Is that right?1980.6269
1608DCA_se1_ag4_m_021980.6153Got a nice car and everything.1982.2068
1609 1982.5343Buying his home.1983.4336
1611 1984.3671You think they see me?1985.3397 
1613 1987.7981Can't get a /stamp/ from him.1989.2234 
1614DCA_int_021989.6046Is that right?1990.2644
1615DCA_se1_ag4_m_021990.2596But I still say, Hello Junior, you know.1992.0777
1616 1993.4120They'll come see me, but I'm not going to see them.1995.2430
1618 1995.8637My daughter, everybody /go somewhere else but here/1997.5889 
1620 1998.1119/unintelligible/ Well, Southeast.2000.7022 
1622 2002.5039Nice, hard neighborhood,2004.0777 
1624 2004.8206with the /government/ what not, you know.2006.4285 
1626 2007.3749See I go and say I want to sleep on your floor, sitting in a chair? Mm-mm.2010.3172 
1628 2011.6221But I took it. I got mine from the ground,2013.3850 
1630 2013.6803pick and a shovel. Now you got a machine now.2015.5352 
1632 2017.1969See I got mine from the pick and the shovel and a wheelbarrow.2019.4776 
1633DCA_int_022020.0002Is that right?2020.5285
1634DCA_se1_ag4_m_022020.6750/???/2021.6329
1636 2021.7466She was /??/ my home.2023.3386 
1638 2023.8452They had a lot of frame houses, nice to get-2025.5311 
1640 2025.8686keep them warm. We had no coal.2027.2566 
1642 2027.5450Go o- over there to the uh-2028.9281 
1644 2029.8274young man! I'm talking about.2031.0866 
1645DCA_int_022031.0866Uh-huh.2031.5655
1646DCA_se1_ag4_m_022032.6603That was the first child, the next one come,2034.2683
1648 2034.7424over there- over there to this2036.0180 
1650 2036.1824you know where the train?2036.9204 
1652 2037.1697You know where the2037.9565 
1653DCA_int_022038.0689Yeah.2038.2693
1654DCA_se1_ag4_m_022038.2693train run?2038.7141
1655 2039.3348Pick coal lump by lump.2040.4198
1657 2040.7766Steal it.2041.3635 
1659 2041.6808/They don't my kids warm/.2043.0377 
1661 2043.9468Not right now, I ain't got nothing.2045.1491 
1662DCA_int_022046.0728Hm.2046.4345
1663DCA_se1_ag4_m_022047.0014I'm just saying you know.2048.0322
1664DCA_int_022048.1353Yeah.2048.5165
1665DCA_se1_ag4_m_022048.5441I ain't putting no2049.4385
1667 2049.6682uh, bad story, and let you2051.1882 
1669 2051.4130feel sorry for me, but I'm gonna say how I did.2053.0601 
1671 2053.1285But yeah, the point2054.2477 
1673 2054.7493because right? Your mother and father live right now, you could say well2057.5547 
1675 2057.7942I know I've been gone for five, ten years but2060.0260 
1677 2060.1677I would drop by, or2061.2687 
1679 2061.3446send a little postcard or something.2062.6554 
1681 2063.2908They're ready to /left town/ when they see me.2064.8108 
1682DCA_int_022065.3484/Dern/.2065.9838
1684 2067.7513How many kids you got?2068.7810 
1685DCA_se1_ag4_m_022069.2468Four all together.2070.5078
1687 2071.1040They go to s-2071.9105 
1689 2072.1726well I count-2072.8666 
1691 2072.9888I don't count the other two-2074.0298 
1693 2074.2400the first two. They- they grown, you know.2076.2683 
1694DCA_int_022076.3465Yeah.2076.7668
1695DCA_se1_ag4_m_022077.2702The other one small ones.2078.5587
1697 2078.6809They ain't too small, but I mean, you know.2080.0787 
1698DCA_int_022081.5303That's good. How about uh2083.5244
1700 2084.0718were you ever in a situation where you thought 'uh-oh man, this is it. I'm gonna die now for sure.'2088.9232 
1701DCA_se1_ag4_m_022089.0405Me?2089.4413
1702DCA_int_022089.5341Yeah.2089.7981
1703DCA_se1_ag4_m_022089.8274Have I?2090.2624
1704DCA_int_022090.5245Yeah.2090.8324
1705DCA_se1_ag4_m_022091.1403I pray to die.2092.1178
1706DCA_int_022092.7287Is that right?2093.3055
1707DCA_se1_ag4_m_022093.4423That's right.2093.7747
1709 2094.9476I don't- I have nothing to live for, that's what I figure.2097.1306 
1711 2098.9047I asked the Lord to take me from this, stop me from drinking.2101.2213 
1713 2102.1531Everything.2102.7102 
1715 2104.5919And I told my mother at one time, I says that was2106.8303 
1717 2107.0747oh I say about six years ago2108.5165 
1719 2109.6095I didn't want to clamor over them. /Thirteen thirteen/ I never forget that.2112.3269 
1721 2113.7785I said, Mama I'm gonna die.2115.0768 
1723 2115.8881Aw boy, go on, what you talking about? She still think I'm a boy, you know. You're never too old for your parents you know?2120.1011 
1725 2121.0291So I say well uh,2122.0005 
1727 2122.6359tell everybody,2123.5938 
1729 2123.7649all my friends, my family, or whatever I've said or done2126.6289 
1731 2126.9057to forget me cause I'm gonna die.2128.1129 
1733 2128.4697They- they- they- I'm still living. Right now. I'm talking to you, ain't I?2131.0747 
1734DCA_int_022131.2538Is that right?2131.8403
1735DCA_se1_ag4_m_022132.5196I ask to die.2133.3847
1737 2133.6975I asked the doctor in the hospital, uh where was it?2136.1021 
1739 2136.5086Gallinger it was then, now it's DC General.2138.4383 
1741 2139.2576I ain't talking about Washington Center, wasn't no Washington Center then, know where the /capital/ place at?2142.0679 
1743 2142.3905Wasn't nothing like that then.2143.3044 
1745 2144.4952Anyway over at the DC General /I mean Gallinger, then/,2146.8118 
1747 2147.5487and I asked the doctor, g- give me a pill.2149.3680 
1749 2149.7834What do you mean? I say, gi- Let me die. I says, I'm in the room here myself.2152.8412 
1751 2153.2736Cause I'm in pain and misery.2154.4785 
1753 2155.1138And when my um2156.2945 
1755 2157.9272my uh2158.5748 
1757 2159.0247/lung/ pushing my ribs.2160.6300 
1759 2161.3093/See I used to sit like this here and fall out/.2162.7500 
1761 2163.2251cause I had high blood pressure.2164.4453 
1763 2165.4570And black out, just like that. <snaps>2166.5469 
1765 2168.0375Like I stay up like this you know, like this [here?]2169.9374 
1766DCA_int_022169.6938[Uh-huh.]2169.9385
1767DCA_se1_ag4_m_022170.5626<grunt>2170.8352
1769 2171.1393Keel over like that.2172.0337 
1771 2173.6319I do it- I don't do it now. I mean here lately, but2175.9174 
1773 2176.5088I know, I gotta take the /unintelligible/. I just won't go to the hospital, I won't give in.2180.2819 
1775 2182.4844I mean, no kidding! I actually- actually I- I actually need some attention.2186.2282 
1777 2187.4971You know?2187.9223 
1778DCA_int_022188.0787You can't die yet, you're not a preacher yet.2190.0826
1779DCA_se1_ag4_m_022190.3856I know, that's what I said!2191.9593
1781 2192.2459I- I- that's /how I go about to try to look at it/.2193.8479 
1783 2194.0587/No I ain't going in there, til I hear 'em singing/.2196.2096 
1785 2196.6349Then, they about go in.2197.9642 
1787 2198.9839/Unintelligible/2201.0318 
1789 2201.4716Boy came in, it was something around eleven o'clock. WUSDA coming in to broadcast us2206.5528 
1791 2206.8118/unintelligible/ I mean /I Street/.2209.1969 
1793 2210.1726/Unintelligible/ /you know, not your place here/.2212.3182 
1795 2213.1491/Nobody- nobody uh/2214.6006 
1797 2214.8401/not /RD-NAME-2/ I mean, uh /RD-NAME-5/.2216.6729 
1798DCA_int_022217.0866Oh, yeah yeah.2217.9614
1799DCA_se1_ag4_m_022218.2253But he go over /reaches out, touches you and/ left.2221.0649
1801 2221.2116Right there in the middle of the block that's where the church at.2222.7500 
1803 2223.0915Nice little church. In the basement.2224.7434 
1805 2225.4423Yeah, I'd get free work, /plenty of girls/ everything man.2227.8958 
1807 2228.3797But uh2228.7500 
1809 2229.2234[<laugh>]2231.6769 
1810DCA_int_022231.0445[Yeah, you]- you /the man/.2232.2096
1811DCA_se1_ag4_m_022232.3954Mm?2232.8499
1812DCA_int_022232.9183You're a good man.2233.9593
1813DCA_se1_ag4_m_022234.0766Nice.2234.6631
1815 2235.2967But um2236.0445 
1817 2236.8412Now yesterday, I was laying across the couch when this uh lady come in here /uh I can't think of her name/ I knew her mother.2242.4062 
1819 2243.4814Of course she's2244.1314 
1821 2244.3172/starting out/ but sh-2245.2898 
1823 2245.5097she- she's young you know.2246.9448 
1825 2247.8881And uh, but she remember me. Oh Brother /RD-NAME-2/! Brother /RD-NAME-2/. But I was trying to go some place or2252.4561 
1827 2252.9399be to a meeting or what not you know just.2254.5870 
1829 2255.6525/Unintelligible/ you know, she was going on.2257.2751 
1830DCA_int_022257.7296Yeah.2258.0424
1831DCA_se1_ag4_m_022258.6467And I tell my mother, she was- /she old, but I- who wouldn't pay to represent her/.2262.3367
1833 2263.1089But her last married name was /RD-NAME-2/, see.2265.2088 
1835 2266.1862But if I'm there, they-2267.3152 
1837 2267.3886I mean people know me in the neighborhood,2268.9330 
1839 2269.2458I'm there.2269.9056 
1841 2270.3828Otherwise, I'm all by myself.2271.9272 
1843 2272.5186I don't have nobody now,2273.6622 
1845 2273.8235with my one /? money/.2275.1822 
1846DCA_int_022275.5460/unintelligible/2276.9009
1847DCA_se1_ag4_m_022277.0719I got sisters and brothers /going in the street/ /like this here/2279.4570
1848DCA_int_022279.7062Is that right?2280.2683
1849DCA_se1_ag4_m_022280.2536And nieces and nephews, good God Almighty.2282.1744
1850 2282.7396But uh2283.6437
1852 2284.2156the idea about it, see I just uh-2286.0190 
1854 2286.8841now my brothers /make about/ eight uh, eight uh, eight sixteen.2289.5802 
1856 2290.3475/You know I don't know who to send to this here?/2291.8675 
1857DCA_int_022292.3172Is that right?2292.9134
1858DCA_se1_ag4_m_022293.3484I ain't got don't have but one one brother.2294.8373
1859DCA_int_022295.5118Hm.2295.8246
1860DCA_se1_ag4_m_022296.6310But I'm just saying.2297.6036
1862 2299.6466Brother's gonna ask you for so-2300.9595 
1864 2301.5020I'll try to2301.9859 
1866 2302.4404give you something.2303.1442 
1867DCA_int_022303.6102Hm-hm.2304.0194
1868DCA_se1_ag4_m_022305.1822You know?2305.5097
1870 2305.7327/[Well, after] you walk the street right now, anytime/2308.0298 
1871DCA_int_022305.7345[Yeah.]2306.0620
1872DCA_se1_ag4_m_022308.4648I'll see you2309.1197
1874 2310.1559/I say, I seen that fella before/.2311.7296 
1876 2312.5245Ain't nobody gonna bother you there.2313.6877 
1878 2314.0005I mean not, if I- if I'm around, I'm gonna get in there too.2316.5713 
1879DCA_int_022316.9789Yeah?2317.3142
1880DCA_se1_ag4_m_022317.3142<laugh> Yeah!2318.7500
1881DCA_int_022318.3046[Ok. Pretty good.]2319.9565
1882DCA_se1_ag4_m_022319.5704[Look here] wait a minute, let me finish talking now. I'm'a /talk you to death/ now.2322.1168
1883 2323.0063Um2323.5235
1885 2325.7794I was born here in Washington DC.2327.2510 
1886DCA_int_022327.4423Yeah.2327.7747
1887DCA_se1_ag4_m_022328.7912Course it's still a country, you know.2329.9251
1888DCA_int_022330.0327Yeah.2330.3601
1889DCA_se1_ag4_m_022332.2351Uh2332.7483
1891 2334.2830And I'll give you my background about the2336.0602 
1893 2336.5098younger days up-2337.1745 
1895 2337.3407little bit of it, you- you follow me, didn't you?2338.9676 
1896DCA_int_022338.9676Oh yeah.2339.4032
1897DCA_se1_ag4_m_022340.2536But I didn't give you all the- all the- you know, the2342.3894
1899 2342.8373fundamental points, but I gave you enough to2344.4502 
1901 2345.1197to carry on, you know. [Put] that away.2346.7668 
1902DCA_int_022345.8675[Yeah, that's right.]2346.7216
1903DCA_se1_ag4_m_022347.8852Uh2348.2379
1905 2349.1843like I said, I started in the first grade2350.7483 
1907 2350.9194and from there I jumped from first to third.2352.9574 
1909 2353.6825got a good memory.2354.4090 
1911 2355.3847But I forget sometimes, too, getting old now see? /When/ I get as old as you are, then I forget /to shut up/ see?2359.8207 
1913 2360.6369<laugh>2362.1227 
1915 2362.6408Well anyway,2363.2517 
1917 2364.3367anyway uh2365.0796 
1919 2365.7394well that's where I went to school, and like I say it was hard and so forth, /unintelligible/ years2369.3446 
1921 2369.4619And I /wasn't in my teen/ I was in my twenties then.2371.5879 
1922DCA_int_022371.9691Uh-huh.2372.2428
1923DCA_se1_ag4_m_022372.3437And um2372.8911
1925 2373.4922we had a little fun but2374.6945 
1927 2374.9878but then I /sit down sometimes myself and think about them/ things you know.2377.6123 
1929 2377.9429Now my /environemnt's actually/ it's no- it's not bad.2381.1637 
1931 2381.8480I mean far as I'm concerned.2382.9232 
1932DCA_int_022383.1676Yeah.2383.4755
1933DCA_se1_ag4_m_022383.8696I don't go for uh- uh-2384.7195
1935 2384.9251well I take care of myself, I mean I try.2386.6066 
1937 2387.4228Th- my friends too.2388.5127 
1939 2388.6104Whether they're right or wrong, I say, come on buddy /?/ buddy come on.2391.0670 
1941 2391.6388Man leave 'em alone. Man, leave 'em alone.2393.0611 
1943 2393.4619But I ain't gonna worry /unless/ /unintelligible/ /I just worry about me/ me.2396.1011 
1945 2397.3016By being careless.2398.6603 
1947 2399.8724Not careful. Careless.2401.5048 
1948DCA_int_022401.8403Yeah.2402.2948
1949DCA_se1_ag4_m_022402.3143Now, you follow me?2403.2625
1950DCA_int_022403.2723I'm following!2404.0543
1951DCA_se1_ag4_m_022404.0836<laugh> [Man!]2405.5645
1952DCA_int_022404.9956[<inaudible>]2405.3449
1953DCA_se1_ag4_m_022405.9848I could sit there all day long and talk you to death.2407.7443
1954DCA_int_022408.2917Yeah, you- you a good talker.2409.9691
1955DCA_se1_ag4_m_022410.0151Oh-2410.4208
1957 2411.0415so anyway, I ain't give you a chance to say nothing here.2413.1431 
1959 2413.8421[<laugh>]2415.4385 
1960DCA_int_022414.0700[/That makes a nice recording/]2414.9742
1961DCA_se1_ag4_m_022415.9761Anyway so2416.8216
1963 2417.6818uh, that's why this here uh2418.9232 
1965 2419.1089uh2419.8958 
1967 2420.0082forget this girl's name.2421.0133 
1969 2421.2185She can't even get- got me, because she says I'm a good talker. He's one too, but see, he gotta have a taste before he can talk. I can talk without anything.2427.7464 
1970DCA_int_022428.5088Yeah.2429.0220
1971DCA_se1_ag4_m_022429.0359Just gifted like that.2429.9066
1972DCA_int_022430.1852Yeah you sure are.2431.2360
1973DCA_se1_ag4_m_022431.2653I ain't talking no-2432.1451
1975 2432.3339am I talking foolish talk?2433.4336 
1976DCA_int_022433.7122No, you're talking sensible talk.2435.6085
1977DCA_se1_ag4_m_022435.9995Thank you.2436.4198
1979 2437.9300You got it all down on record, have you?2439.4238 
1981 2439.6633I got the mic on me.2440.7141 
1982DCA_int_022440.7434Sure, you get the mic on you. You good talker2442.8059
1983DCA_se1_ag4_m_022442.8108Huh?2443.1774
1984DCA_int_022443.2556You good talker.2444.1842
1985DCA_se1_ag4_m_022444.2593<laugh>2446.0152
1986DCA_int_022445.3358[Okay.]2445.9028
1987DCA_se1_ag4_m_022446.5968Oh, Lord have mercy! Well anyway, uh nice to meet you Mr.2449.6759
1988DCA_int_022449.9771No!2450.2704
1990 2450.4952I'm gonna, we're gonna turn this thing over here.2453.1833 
1992 2453.6442And then we'll2454.2667