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1DCA_int_010.4641Okay, uh, do you remember what kind of games you played as a child of about ten or so? Around that age?7.0337
2DCA_se2_ag1_m_028.3220Well, um9.1530
4 11.0042tag,11.5758 
6 11.8160hopscotch, and13.3593 
8 15.0873Blind Man's Bluff, and16.8110 
10 17.0512other little games like that.18.5901 
11DCA_int_0118.7528How'd you play Blind Man's Bluff?20.3885
12DCA_se2_ag1_m_0220.8062You'd21.2239
14 21.4657put on a uh22.4507 
16 22.8008blindfold,23.6186 
18 24.2210and everybody-25.4346 
20 25.7028usually you play it inside-27.2945 
22 27.6051and everybody would uh28.8890 
24 29.1792hide somewhere.30.1729 
26 30.4983And you would just walk around and try to find them,33.0133 
28 33.4602blindfolded.34.2517 
29DCA_int_0135.3377What happened when you found them?36.4326
30DCA_se2_ag1_m_0236.9632<ts>37.0395
32 37.2504Well the37.9232 
34 38.2002first person that you caught, they would be 'it' next time.40.8587 
35DCA_int_0142.0503How did you pick the first person to be blindfolded when you started out?45.2585
36DCA_se2_ag1_m_0246.2830Yeah well,47.0568
38 47.4174I don't know. One way would be everybody put their feet in a circle and,50.7135 
40 51.2323there would be a little52.1513 
42 52.6701like52.9076 
44 54.1695a poem, not a poem, but something that you'd say and,57.1666 
45DCA_int_0157.1930Mm-hm.57.5276
46DCA_se2_ag1_m_0257.7998last one out would be 'it'.59.1101
47DCA_int_0159.5498Hm, do you remember any of those things that you'd say?61.9127
48DCA_se2_ag1_m_0262.8503No, I don't know.63.8968
50 64.1826I never said any.65.2906 
51DCA_int_0165.3082<laugh>65.8710
52DCA_se2_ag1_m_0266.1552It was, kind of, you know, just a rhyme where68.3581
54 69.2419like /unintelligible/ something like Tarzan was in the tree, and he fell out.72.8634 
56 73.1712And then that person would be out, and they wouldn't have to be it.75.8313 
57DCA_int_0175.9762[Mm-hm.]76.4348
58DCA_se2_ag1_m_0276.1683[And] then the last one out would be it.77.7292
59DCA_int_0178.0253Mm-hm.78.4113
61 79.0263Did you ever use Engine, Engine?80.4773 
62DCA_se2_ag1_m_0280.9874<laugh> No sir.82.0778
63DCA_int_0182.5775How about uh One Potato, Two Potato?85.1717
64DCA_se2_ag1_m_0286.2577I think s-86.8381
66 86.9129not that, but something similar I think. I don't remember what it [was.]90.2617 
67DCA_int_0189.8792[Do you] remember it by any chance?91.5852
68DCA_se2_ag1_m_0291.7040No, I don't.92.5306
69DCA_int_0192.7620Okay, how about tag? How do you play tag?95.1395
70DCA_se2_ag1_m_0296.1477Well96.8072
72 97.3305you just-97.8625 
74 98.0236everyone just runs around, and you try to catch 'em and tag 'em.100.9827 
76 101.9764Sometimes you may have like-103.4318 
78 103.7776you may have104.5163 
80 104.7977two people on a side or something,106.5648 
82 107.4227and they try to tag everyone else.109.1805 
83DCA_int_01109.2383Mm-hm.109.6010
85 110.2219And what happens when they get tagged?111.8708 
86DCA_se2_ag1_m_02112.4556Then they're on their side, and they have to help catch the other [ones.]115.7077
87DCA_int_01115.4656[Oh] mm-hm.116.2043
88 117.5193How'd you pick the person to118.8868
90 119.3308run around and chase people. In that same way or?121.5893 
91DCA_se2_ag1_m_02121.7256Yes, the same ways.122.9655
92DCA_int_01122.9213Mm-hm.123.2746
93 124.8678Did you ever play any game where- outside- where127.4962
95 128.2920when a bunch of the kids hid from the others?130.3639 
96DCA_se2_ag1_m_02132.4510Like Hide and Seek?133.5722
97DCA_int_01133.6118Yeah.133.8624
98DCA_se2_ag1_m_02134.1878Ha, yeah. I probably did. I really can't-136.2835
100 136.8991you know we just kind of make games up as we went along.140.0913 
101DCA_int_01141.3208Do you know how kids play hide and seek?143.1588
102DCA_se2_ag1_m_02145.0055I think- well145.9245
104 146.5032one closes his eyes while everybody else hides, and then he149.5371 
106 150.1088goes and looks for 'em.151.6081 
107DCA_int_01151.7432Mm-hm.152.1258
109 152.2880Then what happens when he finds them?154.0292 
110DCA_se2_ag1_m_02155.0186Oh,155.6385
112 156.6410n-157.0895 
114 158.2048I don't know. Well they just have to wait until everyone else is found I think.161.5508 
115DCA_int_01164.1347When he finds them, they can't stay hidden or-?166.2144
116DCA_se2_ag1_m_02166.2584No, they have to come out and167.7534
118 168.0903stand up.168.9213 
119DCA_int_01169.4626I see.169.9519
121 171.9289Okay, uh173.1468 
123 174.1345what kind of TV programs do you like to watch?176.4429 
124DCA_se2_ag1_m_02178.0434Just about any.179.0224
126 179.9061I don't know. I like180.4294 
128 181.4231I even look at cartoons and183.3993 
130 184.2178somethings like Mission Impossible,186.3285 
132 187.1391Combat, and188.1970 
134 188.9975just about any program.190.4820 
135DCA_int_01192.6761Do you remember a193.4939
137 193.8954a time when you saw Mission Impossible that196.3152 
139 196.9791you enjoyed that you could tell me about?198.9123 
141 200.1126We're interested in getting stories that people like.202.6012 
142DCA_se2_ag1_m_02204.7294Well205.3669
144 207.7133let's see. Well the last one that was- I really- I don't even know any of that.211.3276 
146 211.7129/Men,/212.3637 
148 212.9177I don't know their names but214.2280 
150 215.3536there was a uh216.2682 
152 216.5436president of one country, and they had to uh218.9707 
154 219.9152get him out of the country because, uh221.6265 
156 221.8288his-222.2992 
158 223.2210the next top man was gonna assassinate him or something.226.0922 
160 226.6198And uh227.1211 
162 227.4141n- u- their mission was to229.0322 
164 229.5774uh, go in and keep him from being assassinated.232.0887 
166 232.9834And then there was234.1091 
168 234.3201quite a big plot around that.235.9294 
169DCA_int_01237.4683How all did they do it?238.7293
171 239.0716What happened? Do you remember the [details?]240.8040 
172DCA_se2_ag1_m_02240.5842[Well,] um241.6834
173 243.0773the uh, the lady that plays on there,245.2010
175 245.3869she uh,246.0656 
177 247.3187there was a man, an American,248.9324 
179 249.0935in the country,249.8605 
181 250.5181and he had been sick or something and she was253.0332 
183 253.3453uh,253.6145 
185 253.9477s- supposed to be his wife, but sh- of course, she really wasn't.256.9097 
187 257.4877And257.9881 
189 258.4970she went into the country259.9612 
191 261.1238and,261.7052 
193 262.5230I don't know, for some reason263.6706 
195 263.8949they tried to make it264.7655 
197 264.9827look like there was another266.2764 
199 266.5754uh secret mission or something.268.3782 
201 268.9381And269.2860 
203 269.4466y- she f-269.9786 
205 270.1897was gonna try to poison him, but she wasn't gonna really do it.272.6196 
207 273.1560And she wanted to get caught,274.6026 
209 274.7697and she did.275.4776 
211 276.2323And276.7424 
213 276.8963after that277.5426 
215 279.3454she uh,280.0137 
217 280.5238they kind of,281.2756 
219 281.4191the uh282.0127 
221 282.2282man who was gonna assassinate him start getting nervous and everything285.2577 
223 285.8205because of the uh other287.1220 
225 287.5073the other people in the country and everything /there/,289.6618 
227 290.1631and they were messing up his um291.5701 
229 292.0509<ts>292.1271 
231 292.8920plans for the293.8417 
233 294.0484assassination.295.1759 
235 296.0446So uh, he tried to assassinate him298.1058 
237 298.3778but298.5932 
239 298.7427he was stopped by the299.9299 
241 300.3476men from Mission Impossible.301.7019 
242DCA_int_01302.0513Mm.302.2896
243DCA_se2_ag1_m_02302.3746And that's about all I remember from that.303.9384
244DCA_int_01304.2022That's good /though/.305.2223
246 305.2970That's exactly what we like.306.4182 
248 307.1130Do you uh307.9484 
250 308.5140have- have you seen a movie309.8595 
252 310.1321that you310.5410 
254 310.8048recall,311.2533 
256 311.5097recently?312.1679 
258 312.2866That you could do the same thing with?314.0410 
259DCA_se2_ag1_m_02314.3823Uh, let's see. I haven't been in a movie for quite awhile.316.9809
261 322.1194I saw322.7481 
263 323.2670James Bond: You Only Live Twice. That's probably about the last one I saw.327.3018 
265 327.7327/RKO Keith/328.8431 
266DCA_int_01330.1362Do you remember what he did in that?331.6011
267DCA_se2_ag1_m_02332.3655Well um333.1309
269 333.9792in the-334.3177 
271 334.5904I don't- the very first part335.9958 
273 336.1365he was supposed to have been killed.337.7897 
275 338.2558They-338.4845 
277 338.8802again they-339.3682 
279 339.5881the secret agents and everything set it up341.5915 
281 341.8861to make it look as if he were343.0557 
283 343.3327gonna be killed. And then344.4188 
285 345.1179they um345.6951 
287 346.5585printed it in all the newspapers and everything,348.5239 
289 348.8801so that all the other secret spies would think that he was dead.351.6985 
291 352.1146And what they really did, they put him on a353.6887 
293 353.9570ship,354.4758 
295 355.0210and they sailed out to sea, and they were gonna give him like a,357.2107 
297 357.5565I guess what they give the Naval officers359.4735 
299 359.7286type burial.360.4673 
301 360.9861And361.4610 
303 362.5058they uh, had him in a,363.7072 
305 364.3789I don't know if you call it a casket or what but,366.3136 
307 366.8632and then367.1924 
309 367.3687they just dropped it into the sea,368.9986 
311 369.2272but he had on a breathing370.7666 
313 371.4814outfit.372.0008 
315 372.6348And a submarine picked him up and took him to shore, and375.5704 
317 376.1728then he uh376.7928 
319 376.9027they put him on a mission to uh-378.4768 
321 380.3043there was a381.0339 
323 381.4300a man. And I think it-382.6494 
325 383.1184he went to Texas or somewhere.384.7349 
327 385.0427There was this man, and I don't know what he was trying to do, /it/ looks like he was trying to take over the world or something389.2286 
329 389.6447because he had390.3658 
331 390.6736hundreds of men and391.8206 
333 391.9684tanks and things.392.9468 
335 393.3117And393.8658 
337 394.1823Bond had to394.9606 
339 395.1129stop 'em395.7856 
341 395.9703from um396.5815 
343 396.7749succeeding in his mission.398.2215 
345 399.3633And400.1034 
347 400.5899the man401.3286 
349 401.4737that he was stalking, he-402.8411 
351 403.0698he flew to another country,404.6219 
353 405.1320and his forces were there406.5418 
355 406.6341because,407.0386 
357 407.1925and then uh408.0411 
359 410.2528Bond,411.0047 
361 411.2493I don't know, somehow he412.4981 
363 413.0477just413.5841 
365 413.6589made him blow the whole thing. He-415.1450 
367 415.6991I don't know,416.2882 
369 416.5768he-416.9902 
371 417.7157I think he uh418.4587 
373 419.1366contacted his-420.3758 
375 421.4883well whoever he was working for,423.1909 
376DCA_int_01423.5006Mm.423.6817
377DCA_se2_ag1_m_02423.6500and424.1820
378 424.5865he- he gave them the location of where they were.427.0224
380 427.4078And then I think planes came in and429.1797 
382 429.5359dropped bombs on 'em or something, you know.431.2256 
384 432.3204But, that took about three [hours of the plot], but I don't know435.3559 
385DCA_int_01433.8829[<laugh>]434.3533
386DCA_se2_ag1_m_02435.8527exactly what happened.436.6310
387DCA_int_01437.3169That's great.437.8489
389 440.0150You like those ad-440.8944 
391 441.0351adventure things.442.2443 
392DCA_se2_ag1_m_02442.2619Yes.442.8159
393DCA_int_01442.8355/?/443.1358
395 443.5618I do too.444.4104 
397 446.0373You have a pet?446.9386 
398DCA_se2_ag1_m_02447.7697No.448.3809
400 448.6435Not h-449.0009 
401DCA_int_01448.9421Did you ever have one?450.0721
402DCA_se2_ag1_m_02450.2919Well when I was about six, we had a452.3101
404 452.6795small puppy for a couple of weeks, and then455.1198 
406 455.9492later on we had a small puppy457.8311 
408 458.1521called Snowball.459.4580 
410 460.5908And we had that for462.4727 
412 463.0003I don't know, about six months, and464.4865 
414 464.8455other than that all we've had is goldfish.466.8061 
415DCA_int_01466.7299Huh.466.9110
416 468.0213What happened to the dogs?469.2468
417DCA_se2_ag1_m_02470.0753Well um470.9855
419 472.1428the first one473.0618 
421 473.6911/I mean/ I was so little, and I don't even remember what happened to it. We kept them477.0746 
423 477.4879for awhile, and either he got lost or something or480.0733 
425 480.6917maybe m- I don't know, maybe my father482.4769 
427 482.8066did some-483.3826 
429 483.5277gave him away or something. I don't know. Because we were485.6339 
431 486.8590real small then, and487.9319 
432DCA_int_01488.2569Oh.488.4729
433DCA_se2_ag1_m_02488.4729we really, you know, we couldn't take care of a dog or anything. We just played with him.491.7485
434DCA_int_01492.0491Mm-hm.492.5113
436 494.1916What about the other one?495.3172 
437DCA_se2_ag1_m_02495.9459The other one though,496.8957
439 497.1711well we kept him,498.1472 
441 498.4990kept her for quite awhile.499.9808 
443 500.8162And then, I- my mother say we have to get rid of her,503.6066 
445 503.8177and we did. [<laugh>]505.4446 
446DCA_int_01504.9470[<laugh>]505.5230
447 506.4691Did they do anything to irritate your mother or?508.6226
449 509.3123The second one?509.9367 
450DCA_se2_ag1_m_02510.4118Mm, no I don't think so.512.0516
452 512.9266I don't know. Maybe she just didn't like [dogs too] much.515.4401 
453DCA_int_01514.2881[<laugh>]514.8992
454 515.5717Uh-huh.515.9970
456 517.0933Did it ever do anything funny that you remember?519.2411 
457DCA_se2_ag1_m_02521.3788Well, not funny. But I remember something that523.6740
459 523.7619happened one day, but-525.3696 
461 525.9456well526.3193 
463 526.7151I don't know. I had my fishing rod on the528.2452 
465 528.3639back porch and,529.3664 
467 529.5539she was out there playing around, and531.3215 
469 531.9854she got hooked her. And you know the hook was still on the rod and,534.7112 
471 535.6509she was um-536.5303 
473 536.7325the dog just kept yelling and yelling, and my mother had to go snatch the hook out of her, and that wasn't too pleasant I guess.542.1776 
474DCA_int_01542.1776Oh.542.4254
476 543.0020Great.543.4114 
478 545.7183Uh546.4076 
480 546.8995what do you study in- in school?548.5660 
482 549.4058The year that you just finished?550.7073 
483DCA_se2_ag1_m_02551.4004Mm551.7521
485 551.9874English,552.9613 
487 553.2647Algebra Two,554.3771 
489 554.9224Chemistry,555.7930 
491 556.6663and French Two,558.0162 
493 558.2009and then a few minor subjects,559.9113 
495 560.5884Mechanical Drawing and Journalism.562.5611 
496DCA_int_01562.7373Mm-hm.563.1559
498 563.6955What's your favorite?564.5485 
500 565.7431/If you have a favorite/.566.7677 
501DCA_se2_ag1_m_02567.3522It used to be Math and Science, but569.4143
503 569.9156seeing it's getting harder and harder, uh571.9118 
504DCA_int_01573.3525Mm-hm.573.7718
505DCA_se2_ag1_m_02573.7146seems like I do better in- in the subjects I575.9862
506 576.4435care least for.577.4152
507DCA_int_01577.6746<laugh>578.3646
509 578.9174That's frustrating.579.9229 
511 581.0323What did you study in uh, elementary school?583.3187 
512DCA_se2_ag1_m_02584.4427Um j-585.0803
514 585.2342things like585.8586 
516 586.1048Spelling, Reading,587.6481 
518 588.3209Mathematics, and589.6279 
520 591.6485English History, and592.6986 
522 593.0328things like that.593.7979 
523DCA_int_01595.3501What did uh596.1793
525 597.1229kids in elementary school do after school was out?599.7773 
527 600.2010As you remember.600.9008 
528DCA_se2_ag1_m_02601.5465Well,601.8719
530 602.2852I was a Patrol Boy, so603.9297 
532 604.1715I would604.6552 
534 604.9102get out about605.7139 
536 606.4519three fifteen, three twenty I guess, and608.5844 
538 609.2726I'd go home, and610.4488 
540 610.6290then I had a small part time job612.6061 
542 613.1909where I just go in the grocery store and help615.0596 
544 615.2179man out for a little while.616.5799 
546 617.4490So I do that, and then618.6261 
548 618.9405I don't know. I'd619.4725 
550 619.6792go play. We'd play football or baseball or something for,623.0676 
552 623.3798til it got dark,624.1976 
554 624.5318and then we had to go in.625.5695 
555DCA_int_01625.7482Mm-hm.626.2152
557 627.1904How- how did you get to be a Patrol Boy?628.9125 
558DCA_se2_ag1_m_02630.2419Well, when I was in the fourth grade632.0490
560 633.0411uh, they just634.2679 
562 634.5493one- I guess one of the sixth graders came around.636.6422 
564 636.8137Probably the637.5172 
566 637.6519uh, captain of the Patrol Force at the time.639.8196 
568 640.4968And they asked uh641.8598 
570 642.2863who wanted to be a Patrol Boy, and643.8456 
572 644.2370you just sign up on a sheet.645.7847 
574 646.3871And then they647.2753 
576 647.3984let you-647.9040 
578 648.0667the teachers I guess have to recommend you649.9392 
580 650.2636before you could do it though.651.4105 
581DCA_int_01652.2598What- what were your duties? You know,654.0451
583 654.3461what do they do?655.1753 
584DCA_se2_ag1_m_02655.8154Just to uh656.5321
586 656.9674keep the children from getting hit by cars mostly.659.8590 
587DCA_int_01660.0921Uh-huh.660.4988
589 660.9054Did you have a post, or?662.4939 
590DCA_se2_ag1_m_02663.3238Well, yes, I had- I was um664.9666
592 665.1161on the m-665.4899 
594 665.7097corner, right in front of the school,667.2794 
596 667.4773and we had a crossing guard there, so669.3328 
598 670.1307it really wasn't-670.8614 
600 671.2172oh- we just would uh-672.7213 
602 673.5611the crossing guard would674.6691 
604 675.3382give us signals when to let the children across and-677.9831 
606 678.8886Then we'd wave 'em across and680.4232 
608 680.6034hold 'em back when we were told to.682.3955 
609DCA_int_01682.7522Mm-hm.683.2049
611 684.0163You didn't have any authority over the cars or?686.0251 
612DCA_se2_ag1_m_02686.4503No, we weren't-687.1296
614 687.2127we weren't supposed to.688.2313 
615DCA_int_01688.1741[<laugh>]688.9509
616DCA_se2_ag1_m_02688.3600[<laugh>]689.3125
617 689.4250But, you kn- once and awhile the uh691.1502
619 691.4386crossing guard wouldn't show up, and693.1199 
621 693.6184one patrol boy would694.7523 
623 695.2637get brave enough to walk out in the street and try to stop the cars or [something.]698.6360 
624DCA_int_01698.1522[<laugh>]698.6067
625DCA_se2_ag1_m_02699.1541And a couple of days later you wouldn't see him on Patrol Force anymore though.702.6273
626DCA_int_01702.7543Oh really?703.4484
627DCA_se2_ag1_m_02703.6243Yeah, because I don't know- we weren't supposed to705.7112
628DCA_int_01705.7839Uh-huh.706.0794
629DCA_se2_ag1_m_02706.1169stop traffic or anything.707.6547
630DCA_int_01707.7092Oh.708.1265
632 709.0867Get in trouble that way /now/.710.4356 
633DCA_se2_ag1_m_02710.4112Yes.710.9772
634DCA_int_01710.9867<laugh>711.4299
636 712.3711Ah, that's really something.713.5227 
638 716.1228Uh,716.5285 
640 716.8022do you think kids do about the same thing now after school as they did when you were-?720.9740 
641DCA_se2_ag1_m_02721.3457Yes I think so.722.1375
642DCA_int_01722.2108Oh, interesting.723.0661
644 724.2293What about at your age now? How, how do kids spend their time?727.5852 
646 728.1864/When they're out of school/?728.9503 
647DCA_se2_ag1_m_02729.7259Mm, going into the730.9840
649 731.0779theater and731.8037 
651 733.4826staying around the house a lot.734.9928 
653 735.3105Mm,735.5646 
655 736.0240probably going out on dates and things.738.4171 
657 740.1473And..740.5383 
658DCA_int_01742.2733Okay.742.8989
660 743.0828Uh, what about teachers? Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot?746.1033 
662 746.6604That you can remember?747.7357 
663DCA_se2_ag1_m_02749.5960Mm, no I don't think so. Most of my teachers haven't been too bad.752.6898
664DCA_int_01752.9924Mm-hm.753.4117
665DCA_se2_ag1_m_02753.6184Some of them were a little hard on you, but755.5765
667 755.7720you know, they never really hollered at you or anything.758.1326 
668DCA_int_01758.2952Mm-hm.758.6717
670 759.4864How would they be hard on you?760.8500 
671DCA_se2_ag1_m_02761.3272Homework. [<laugh>]762.9889
672DCA_int_01762.2589[<laugh>]762.7593
673DCA_se2_ag1_m_02763.5412They give you a, say, 'here's a half hour's worth of homework' or something and767.1970
675 767.5911take you about three hours to do it and769.5168 
676DCA_int_01769.5109Oh /?/.770.0303
677DCA_se2_ag1_m_02770.0153if you didn't show up with it next day in class, you either got a zero773.1824
678 773.7866or else you'd have to774.8081
680 775.1600come in and775.9371 
682 776.3867make it up or something.777.5939 
683DCA_int_01777.7731Mm-hm.778.3116
685 781.1502Uh, what about the best teacher you ever had?783.5465 
687 786.2200Nominate somebody for [/that award/.]787.9213 
688DCA_se2_ag1_m_02787.3897[<laugh>]788.5040
689 789.2176Well, I /don't really know/.790.3026
691 791.8990Best teacher.792.8716 
693 794.9635Well, I guess, each one was best in his own way.797.7720 
694DCA_int_01797.9789Mm-hm.798.4042
695DCA_se2_ag1_m_02798.4513I mean,798.7495
697 799.1600I don't know799.6634 
699 800.6116which one I learned the most from, I really couldn't say either.803.3077 
701 803.5520I don't know, I- I'll say my Chem Study teacher this year. He seemed like-806.9879 
703 808.1609it was a809.0357 
705 809.3565hard course to begin with but811.3152 
707 811.8540he812.3183 
709 812.6507we c- uh, at the end of the year we did learn something.815.4159 
711 815.8599At least what the formula for salt was or [something.]818.7973 
712DCA_int_01818.1570[<laugh>]819.4278
713DCA_se2_ag1_m_02819.5402But819.7846
715 820.0778I don't know. I think820.8011 
717 821.8746I've always liked science mostly anyway but824.4356 
719 825.2763I l- I think I learned quite a bit there, and he was-827.3965 
721 827.5080he was always prepared and everything,829.6341 
723 830.9048put a lot of work into the course.832.6301 
724DCA_int_01834.1972Would you say that's an uh-835.1698
726 835.8296main ingredient for a person to be a good teacher?838.1413 
728 838.8482[What] goes into a [good teacher?]840.2900 
729DCA_se2_ag1_m_02838.8891[Uh]839.1482
731 839.8453[preparation?]840.8081 
732 841.9909Well, I don't- well there's843.3349
734 843.8139this particular teacher, he had um,845.7573 
736 846.1434the way I understand it847.0232 
738 847.1893he had started teaching there three years ago,849.5451 
740 850.1120and the uh850.7327 
742 850.9509course doesn't really change from year to year.853.2235 
744 853.7221So the854.1864 
746 854.5040uh, one of the teachers told me856.1267 
748 856.2733for the- f- his first year,858.0701 
750 858.8423he would859.2186 
752 859.3359spend about860.0740 
754 860.1815three hours in the evening just preparing for the course the next day,863.2703 
755DCA_int_01863.5024Hm.863.7836
756DCA_se2_ag1_m_02864.1727But uh864.7837
758 865.2920then you know, the next year, he wouldn't have to- he would just save his notes868.6203 
760 869.0633from the869.6058 
762 870.1483prev- from the year before and then871.8491 
764 872.0642use those872.8217 
766 872.9977because873.4278 
768 874.1462um, each day in class he would have his notes that he had from877.3750 
770 877.7416the year before and878.7044 
771DCA_int_01878.7962Mm-hm.879.1631
772DCA_se2_ag1_m_02879.4620once in a while he would mention that last year we were a chapter882.3878
774 882.5882ahead of this or something.884.0251 
775DCA_int_01884.1082Mm-hm.884.6800
777 885.9361What other things would a teacher have to do to be888.2117 
779 889.1695[/inaudible/.]889.9860 
780DCA_se2_ag1_m_02889.2822[/Know/.]889.7514
781 890.1717Besides preparation, I think he has to892.2087
783 892.8011understand the students and,894.4953 
785 896.3631well896.8462 
787 897.0075he has to897.6819 
789 898.4444be willing to help them899.7085 
791 899.8111when they need help and901.1307 
793 902.2695cooperate with them, you know, /inaudible/.904.3368 
794DCA_int_01905.5498That's good.905.9978
796 906.8423Did you ever have a teacher that you just didn't like for anything?909.6673 
797DCA_se2_ag1_m_02911.7915No, I- I don't know. I always seem to get913.6194
799 913.9762along pretty well with915.1981 
801 916.1169most of the teachers, but then I don't know, sometimes at-918.6028 
803 919.5168a lot of the students wouldn't do your homework, and they just couldn't stand the teacher but923.4201 
805 924.2363usually I just do what he said, and not bother with it927.2763 
807 927.4327[because] I remember like my Biology teacher in ninth grade,931.3361 
808DCA_int_01927.5475[Mm-hm.]927.9001
809DCA_se2_ag1_m_02932.1277a lot of, you know, either933.4131
811 933.5793most of the students d-934.7083 
813 934.9087just935.3468 
815 935.4983hated him.936.3047 
817 936.5882And then, ei- there were those that hated him, and then those that939.4669 
819 940.2586liked him, and would do what he say and then there were- there were those that943.3311 
821 943.4923just wouldn't do anything, you know.944.8559 
823 945.2469They didn't care, but946.1804 
825 947.2392then947.5960 
827 947.9088this year when I went to Sidwell949.4532 
829 950.4747you know, it's complete-951.7455 
831 951.9898completely different type of school and everything so954.5979 
833 955.2040/I know/ all the students,956.4454 
835 956.6262different environment and everything.958.2049 
837 959.1757Students are different and960.5686 
839 960.9205all the teachers961.9469 
841 962.6947seem to be more concerned with the students and.965.2264 
842DCA_int_01966.3364Huh.966.5924
844 968.2206What was there about the biology teacher that made so many of the kids dislike him?972.1092 
845DCA_se2_ag1_m_02972.4758Well um,973.3213
847 973.8589I don't know. I think975.0123 
849 975.2665he had been teaching high school before,977.7378 
851 978.2949and978.7788 
853 979.8785the change, I don't-980.8832 
855 981.0221in- when you-981.5353 
857 981.6379in high school,982.5275 
859 982.8745a lot of times the teachers just lecture.984.8803 
861 985.6341But985.8931 
863 986.1082uh,986.4943 
865 986.6751I don't know. In- in junior high school I think they kind of988.5910 
867 988.8678spoon feed you or something,990.5786 
869 991.1649and991.5950 
871 991.7709when he came in that was his first year there,994.0680 
873 994.4884and994.9509 
875 995.1219he didn't- he would just come in and lecture and things, and he wouldn't998.3574 
877 998.5285really go over the material sometimes.1000.5470 
879 1001.1219And students wouldn't understand what he was saying, and1003.7269 
881 1004.5138they just got fed up with it I guess, and1006.5959 
883 1006.8793didn't1007.3485 
885 1007.8208they just didn't want to do anything else, and1009.7123 
887 1010.2206then, I know once in awhile, he'd1011.9556 
889 1012.1804give tests and-1013.2948 
891 1013.7475like the very first test he gave us was a essay test and1016.6800 
893 1017.2469most students don't like to do those1018.7669 
895 1018.9558type tests because1019.9919 
897 1020.3780it's about five pages of1021.9029 
899 1022.0984writing without using books or anything [you know.]1024.3955 
900DCA_int_011024.0876[Mm.]1024.4346
901DCA_se2_ag1_m_021025.7475And,1026.5002
903 1026.9841I don-1027.3897 
905 1027.5363I don't know, I usually do better on essay tests though, so1029.9109 
906DCA_int_011029.8823Really?1030.1730
907DCA_se2_ag1_m_021030.4884I didn't mind that and then, I don't- once in awhile he'd give us test1033.8003
909 1034.5236and1034.9244 
911 1035.2469half of the1036.0827 
913 1036.1853questions on there would be things th- he had never taught us.1039.7064 
914DCA_int_011039.7612Hm.1040.0104
915DCA_se2_ag1_m_021040.2988But1040.5969
917 1040.8902because I remember sometimes he'd1042.7083 
919 1043.8179just put a lot of questions on there, and1045.8527 
921 1046.1375things that1046.7924 
923 1046.9146no one ever heard- heard of or anything just about.1049.3876 
925 1049.6351Like1049.8062 
927 1050.1043I remember one example was he gave us a test1052.3136 
929 1052.6702and it had the parts of the heart on it.1054.5568 
930DCA_int_011054.7994Hm.1055.0340
931DCA_se2_ag1_m_021055.0779And we hadn't studied the heart or anything,1057.2431
933 1058.0691and about the blood cells and1059.5274 
935 1060.1902I think that was a couple of chapters ahead of us.1062.4562 
936DCA_int_011062.5380/?/1062.8621
937DCA_se2_ag1_m_021063.0183But1063.2920
939 1063.4972I don't- usually he'd either throw the test away or1066.2831 
941 1067.2490he would1067.8013 
943 1068.3829put 'em on a curve or something because1070.5040 
945 1070.8217I don't know, not too many students failed,1072.9331 
947 1073.8111except the ones that didn't do anything.1075.4169 
948DCA_int_011075.6313Mm.1075.8600
950 1077.6575Were you ever in a class where the1078.8043 
952 1079.2050kids played a trick on the teacher?1080.9987 
953DCA_se2_ag1_m_021083.4522Well,1083.8530
955 1086.4855well1087.1062 
957 1087.2968last, this past summer at summer school in New Hampshire, um1090.8500 
959 1091.7182well I don- I don't know. It wasn't really a trick. They just took the teacher's car and1095.8530 
961 1096.2338put it-1096.5372 
963 1096.6594there was a big-1097.4159 
965 1098.3633all of the uh buildings led to one1100.4258 
967 1100.8999circle, like1101.6575 
969 1102.6203where- and each path from each building would just1105.0183 
971 1105.3115end up in one circle which was1106.9293 
973 1107.1003the center of everything around there.1108.9087 
975 1109.4103And they just moved his car from the uh, parking lot,1112.7484 
977 1112.9586down to the center of the1114.1325 
979 1115.1806whatever it was and1116.4220 
981 1117.4093left it there, and it j- it just looked kind of funny sitting out in the middle of nowhere1121.3632 
983 1121.4494kind of like.1121.9186 
985 1122.2412And then1122.7348 
987 1122.8814this year,1123.5070 
989 1123.6732just1124.3232 
991 1125.0221the week we got out of school just-1126.5519 
993 1127.2686j- just about a w-, two weeks ago I guess.1129.4614 
995 1130.0251they uh1130.5871 
997 1130.9959took1131.2909 
999 1132.0192the-1132.2195 
1001 1132.3124one of the counselors, they took his1134.1287 
1003 1134.3340Falcon1135.0378 
1005 1135.6976and they put it on the uh1136.9390 
1007 1137.3567track1137.9000 
1009 1138.7101over by the football field.1140.2656 
1011 1140.8765And they took adhesive tape1142.3623 
1013 1142.6165and1143.0612 
1015 1143.6624made a seven1144.5910 
1017 1145.0975and1145.3859 
1019 1145.9772taped that on the car, and put racing stripes out of adhesive tape on there,1149.9214 
1021 1150.4688which really wasn't too hard to get off but,1152.2558 
1023 1152.5686and they set it on the track like a racing [car or something, and]1155.6037 
1024DCA_int_011154.5431[<laugh>]1155.4962
1025DCA_se2_ag1_m_021156.0827then they pu- I think they put a smoke bomb in it or [something, you know], which would make a lot of smoke when you start it up to move it.1161.7455
1026DCA_int_011158.6872[<laugh>]1159.1780
1027DCA_se2_ag1_m_021162.3320But, he got- I-1163.5032
1029 1163.6644I don't know, he found out about that some way, and1166.0642 
1030DCA_int_011166.0535Mm.1166.2441
1031DCA_se2_ag1_m_021166.7016he took the smoke bomb out before he1168.6790
1033 1168.9753moved his car.1169.8111 
1035 1170.4367That was about the [funniest thing.]1172.4112 
1036DCA_int_011171.1514[/inaudible/ Yeah.]1172.3333
1037 1172.8071That is pretty good.1173.7064
1039 1174.5128How did these teachers react to these things?1176.8570 
1040DCA_se2_ag1_m_021177.4386Usually they just laugh. You know, they wouldn't- I don't know- they wouldn't get mad or anything1181.5471
1041DCA_int_011181.6773Mm-hm.1182.0728
1042DCA_se2_ag1_m_021182.1141because-1182.5625
1044 1183.3506but they just usually played practical jokes and things but1186.6643 
1046 1187.2490I don't know I think one time though the whole faculty got mad with something the seniors did just before the close of school.1193.0651 
1048 1193.4983They had a uh1194.2900 
1050 1195.0525a Wit Committee,1196.0886 
1052 1196.4802which would1196.9472 
1054 1197.2331play jokes on everybody, the whole school, not just the teachers.1200.6643 
1056 1201.2675And1201.7758 
1058 1203.2421for one thing, they uh1204.3662 
1060 1205.2099in f- in front of the school one day, they put-1207.2773 
1062 1207.7660put up a sign with, furnished apartments for rent.1210.7963 
1064 1211.3223I don't know if anybody came in to rent an apartment or anything but-1214.1375 
1066 1214.7777and then-1215.2812 
1068 1215.6575but1215.9361 
1070 1216.0534I th- the thing that the1217.0553 
1072 1217.3174faculty got mad about was1219.0270 
1074 1219.4875one day they took /all of the bells loose/.1221.4896 
1076 1221.9898So the uh1223.0211 
1078 1223.4152that day everyone was late for classes and everything.1226.1717 
1080 1226.6409And they had to announce every time my period was over.1229.0656 
1082 1230.2412And, they said it cost about three hundred dollars to fix those bells, so I don't1234.3417 
1083DCA_int_011234.3446[Uh.]1234.6673
1084DCA_se2_ag1_m_021234.4835[think] they liked that.1235.4159
1085DCA_int_011236.8036Bet that was a little too much, huh?1238.3429
1086DCA_se2_ag1_m_021238.4307Yes.1238.9469
1087DCA_int_011239.9507When you were a- a youngster of around ten or so, was there a bunch of kids that1243.8149
1089 1244.1864hung around with and played with all the time?1246.2894 
1090DCA_se2_ag1_m_021246.8433Yes, usually. I don't know.1248.2900
1092 1249.3017Just uh,1249.8980 
1094 1249.9909most of the kids around the block1251.6770 
1096 1251.7894we just1252.4688 
1098 1252.9215I don't know, sometimes we'd-1254.3705 
1100 1255.4630you know, it wasn't, no- there weren't- I don't think there were any real gangs or anything, but1258.6692 
1102 1259.0584you'd always play with the same guys, and1261.1893 
1104 1261.5119like play baseball or something, and1263.3007 
1106 1263.7308you, like1264.4102 
1108 1264.9509I lived on1265.7378 
1110 1266.1776like1266.4318 
1112 1266.6175Tennessee Avenue, would play1268.2304 
1114 1268.5089Fifteen Street or something, you know.1270.1462 
1116 1270.5941Just a small game of baseball1272.2607 
1117DCA_int_011272.5331Mm-hm.1273.0621
1118DCA_se2_ag1_m_021273.3702over at the elementary school.1275.0808
1119DCA_int_011276.4084Were they the same age that you were?1278.5246
1120DCA_se2_ag1_m_021278.8814Yes, usually,1279.8247
1122 1280.1961but1280.4698 
1124 1280.6751a lot of times they are-1281.7161 
1126 1281.9996see I don't- I don't have any brothers, but1283.7475 
1128 1284.1483they would have older brothers that would come along and1286.4894 
1130 1287.6184elbow into the game, and <laugh>1289.1824 
1132 1289.5032you know, because they were bigger and everything.1291.1437 
1134 1292.1397So1292.5383 
1136 1292.6898I don't know, they just choose up sides, and1294.5666 
1138 1294.7572usually there would be some bigger ones there.1296.7420 
1139DCA_int_011296.6657Mm-hm.1297.0517
1140 1298.5871Did any of them speak any foreign languages?1300.7200
1142 1301.4253[/Naturally/.]1301.9638 
1143DCA_se2_ag1_m_021301.7133[N- no], I don't think so.1303.2124
1144DCA_int_011303.2505Mm-hm.1303.6398
1146 1305.6428Uh, what about now? Is there1306.9429 
1148 1307.7671a group that you associate with?1309.5070 
1149DCA_se2_ag1_m_021310.7191Well, I don't- the1311.9947
1151 1312.1951group that1312.7229 
1153 1312.8891around my- where I live at, that I used to1315.1600 
1155 1316.0446I guess you say play with, I don't- I don't know.1317.8872 
1157 1318.1267I stopped.1318.6301 
1159 1319.4836And they were getting a little too bad for me so1321.6830 
1161 1321.9029I don- I don't1322.6067 
1163 1322.9390bother with them much too more, but1324.5030 
1165 1325.0944at school, I have1326.3780 
1167 1326.5158friends that I'm usually with,1328.0495 
1169 1328.1619who you can usually find me with.1329.9410 
1171 1330.3564But1330.5910 
1173 1330.7407I don't- everybody at school is pretty friendly, so1333.0036 
1175 1333.9860you just about find me anywhere.1335.4452 
1176DCA_int_011335.5738Uh-huh.1336.0504
1178 1337.3565Are there any white kids in that younger group?1339.4972 
1179DCA_se2_ag1_m_021340.4573Um1341.0466
1181 1341.1883where I lived at, or at-1342.4053 
1183 1343.2148Well, no white children lived around there at all, I don't think.1346.1570 
1185 1346.3034But,1346.5369 
1187 1346.7609I really didn't see too many of 'em.1348.6252 
1188DCA_int_011349.2686What about now?1350.1825
1189DCA_se2_ag1_m_021350.7580Um, well the school I go to now, I think1352.9732
1191 1353.8041in my cl-1354.4346 
1193 1354.6625in my class, the tenth grade class, I think there are about four Negroes, and1358.2206 
1195 1358.9879about1359.4278 
1197 1359.6966eighty white children and1361.2068 
1199 1361.6987maybe um, one or two Chinese but1363.6145 
1201 1364.6995I don't kow.1365.4131 
1202DCA_int_011365.9767Oh, I see.1366.6820
1204 1367.6596Slight change /?/.1368.7299 
1205DCA_se2_ag1_m_021368.6761Yes, uh1369.2675
1206 1369.5461and1369.8638
1208 1370.1033uh, in junior high school,1371.4129 
1210 1371.6655/walked/ elementary school, it was1373.3046 
1212 1373.7329right in my neighborhood so1375.1356 
1214 1375.4923there were all Negroes there, and then1377.2421 
1216 1377.9801in junior high there were,1379.4159 
1218 1380.2412each class I had about1381.4190 
1220 1382.0251there were mostly Negroes, but there would be about1384.3271 
1222 1384.6936two or three white1385.4983 
1224 1385.7866children and then1386.7788 
1226 1387.2186the rest Negroes out of about thirty children.1389.5962 
1227DCA_int_011389.8853Mm-hm.1390.3440
1229 1391.6009Uh, in the1392.2716 
1231 1392.8668among the little kids, was there one kid that everyone looked up to as a leader?1396.9895 
1233 1397.8699Sort of looked to.1398.7611 
1234DCA_se2_ag1_m_021399.7025Mm, well1400.4957
1236 1401.2127I could pick an example in junior high possibly. Um,1403.7769 
1238 1404.1972not in elementary though.1405.3213 
1240 1405.9176Well, there was I don't know, a boy name- by the name of /RD-NAME-4/, and he was /about/1409.5911 
1242 1410.7297best athlete in the school in the seventh grade and,1413.7210 
1244 1414.3222he was better than most of the ninth graders too, you know. Like Super Boy or [something, and]1418.3232 
1245DCA_int_011417.8196[<laugh>]1418.3962
1246DCA_se2_ag1_m_021418.6947I don't know, he as1419.4913
1248 1420.7816pretty good athlete, and1422.0994 
1250 1422.3096he was a nice guy, too, you know. He wasn't1424.3183 
1252 1424.7582like a bully or anything, even though he was about the1427.4159 
1254 1427.5716strongest guy you know. He wasn't a bully.1429.3555 
1256 1429.7416He'd often- I remember there was one little guy, smallest guy in the school,1433.2783 
1258 1433.8257in the seventh grade, and1435.0378 
1260 1435.8442you know everybody would just joke around with him and pick on him and everything and1438.6625 
1262 1439.3663I don't know, /RD-NAME-2/ would-1440.4611 
1264 1440.8179he would kind of help everybody out.1442.4063 
1266 1443.6184And if anybody1444.6594 
1268 1444.8402you know would ever bother you or anything, he would1446.6419 
1270 1447.1307tell him to leave you alone and things, [but]1448.8755 
1271DCA_int_011448.6561[Mm.]1448.9182
1272DCA_se2_ag1_m_021449.1639you know, he wasn't a bully or anything, so I guess that's why everybody liked him. And1452.1385
1274 1453.0085he made basketball team and things like that in the seventh grade,1456.3515 
1276 1457.2343and he was about1457.7133 
1278 1457.9137n-1458.2900 
1280 1458.6419think in the upper ninety-five percentile in1461.1981 
1282 1462.0338in the uh1462.6882 
1284 1463.0122national1463.8557 
1286 1464.2509athletics.1465.5950 
1287DCA_int_011466.9684Real outstanding.1468.0485
1288DCA_se2_ag1_m_021468.3075Yes, pr-1468.8631
1290 1469.0584outstanding athlete.1470.3145 
1291DCA_int_011470.2260/Yeah/.1470.6216
1292DCA_se2_ag1_m_021470.7886I don't think they went-1471.5559
1294 1471.7807most of the people at school, they wouldn't-1473.3985 
1296 1473.7650they didn't care much about the1475.1921 
1298 1475.8942varying1476.5882 
1300 1476.9059s- scholarly students, /see/ more for the athletes at the time.1480.5076 
1301DCA_int_011480.7364Mm-hm.1481.0700
1303 1481.6466That's typical.1482.7495 
1304DCA_se2_ag1_m_021482.8619Yeah, but, I don't know in high school now though,1485.2225
1306 1485.5939it's kind of both ways. They look up to the athletes and the scholars.1489.1130 
1307DCA_int_011489.1034Mm-hm.1489.5133
1308DCA_se2_ag1_m_021489.8394And some /other/- some-1491.1492
1310 1491.5695some students there are both athletes and good scholars, [so.]1494.7397 
1311DCA_int_011494.1585[<laugh>]1494.6493
1312 1496.3780Good.1496.6258
1314 1497.3691Uh, if a new kid were to have moved into your neighborhood when you were ten, could they have1501.6781 
1316 1502.0788joined the bunch of kids you played with?1504.0493 
1317DCA_se2_ag1_m_021504.6887Yes, I think so.1505.4790
1319 1505.6601Should have been pretty easy because1507.1991 
1321 1507.8687I- I noticed recently1509.4864 
1323 1509.7748every- I /only/1510.5519 
1325 1511.0486walk around the block about once a month or something, you know, /where/1513.7416 
1327 1513.9224and see 'em, see the1515.0759 
1329 1515.3594people I used to play with, but1516.6838 
1331 1517.7231I don't know, usually every time I go around there, there's1519.7684 
1333 1519.9224one new guy in the1521.2078 
1335 1521.5695neighborhood or something, and1522.7474 
1337 1523.6693I meet him, and then1524.7543 
1339 1525.1795I don't know.1525.8296 
1341 1526.6458But1526.8559 
1343 1527.0368usually, I don't- I think1528.0723 
1345 1528.3466in- just about anybody could start-1530.2314 
1347 1530.6028anybody in that neighborhood.1531.8514 
1348DCA_int_011533.3447Is there anything they would have to do1535.2606
1350 1535.5716special that-1536.2167 
1351DCA_se2_ag1_m_021536.3242Mm, no. Just1537.6536
1353 1537.8931hang around with everybody [else I guess.]1539.7931 
1354DCA_int_011539.2117[Mm-hm.1539.6883
1355DCA_se2_ag1_m_021540.7891Be like everybody else, you know. Do the same things, play /inaudible/ and everything.1545.3251
1356DCA_int_011547.7817Okay.1548.3878
1358 1548.8228Uh, do you have any idea what you might like to do when you're finished with school?1552.4766 
1359DCA_se2_ag1_m_021553.3223No idea at all.1554.4758
1361 1554.9743I don't know, I've-1555.7172 
1363 1555.9176I had to do a research paper last year, and1558.7229 
1365 1559.2783about twenty pages of what I wanted to do, and I didn't really know, so1562.7777 
1367 1563.5109I waited til the last minute, and then I just1565.7035 
1369 1565.8893picked any occupation and started writing on that, and1568.8902 
1371 1569.3691I just happened to pick dentistry, but I don't think I'd really like to be a dentist.1573.4174 
1372DCA_int_011573.4556Mm.1573.7891
1373DCA_se2_ag1_m_021574.1037Too much1574.7875
1375 1575.3056college for that.1576.3839 
1376DCA_int_011576.3742<laugh>1576.9460
1377DCA_se2_ag1_m_021576.9215I think about eight years or something.1578.5735
1378DCA_int_011578.6107Yeah, it's a grind.1579.9338
1380 1581.1224Do you plan to go on to college after you finish-?1583.1963 
1381DCA_se2_ag1_m_021583.2084Yes, I do.1584.0392
1383 1584.3060Hope so.1584.9143 
1384DCA_int_011585.9627Good.1586.2486
1386 1587.5734Um,1587.8260 
1388 1588.4205well,1588.7493 
1390 1590.3680what-1590.7621 
1392 1590.9501what all is involved- since you did the research you probably know- what all is involved in a dentist's training?1596.1995 
1394 1596.9939How long does it take, and what stages and /?/?1598.8367 
1395DCA_se2_ag1_m_021598.6736Well,1599.2133
1396 1599.7993I don't- well, after he gets through high school, I guess he has to go to a1602.4494
1398 1603.1007good college that1604.1634 
1400 1604.5051you know, that's known for its dentistry.1606.7792 
1402 1607.7221And he-1608.8085 
1404 1609.0632I don't know, probably at first,1610.3791 
1406 1610.6528it probably takes about as long as a doctor I believe,1612.7638 
1408 1613.1868but1613.3869 
1410 1613.6015first1614.2783 
1412 1614.5088two years or so, probably, is just book work and1617.4173 
1414 1618.1430learning about1618.9198 
1416 1619.2912the uh1620.0492 
1418 1620.6556I guess the instruments and1622.6060 
1420 1623.2428about the teeth and1624.4556 
1422 1625.0741things and,1625.7473 
1424 1626.2278/maybe/,1626.4422 
1426 1626.6448I don't know, they probably require to take courses on1629.1553 
1428 1629.7638how to get along with other people, too, and things, and how to treat children, and1633.0645 
1430 1633.7679because,1634.3258 
1432 1634.6836that brings up another point about my Biology teacher I think.1637.4588 
1434 1637.9985He wanted to be a teacher doing something else, and1640.6364 
1436 1641.2185he said the only reason he didn't take it was because uh1644.3234 
1438 1644.8912he had to go1645.6553 
1440 1646.0297take classes on,1647.2805 
1442 1647.6565well he said1648.4812 
1444 1648.8572to quote, uh1649.8032 
1446 1650.0760take classes on what to do when Johnny wet his pants [and things] like that. And he didn't want to be bothered with [that, so]1655.5922 
1447DCA_int_011652.9337[<laugh>]1653.2483
1449 1654.8304[<laugh>]1655.6263 
1450DCA_se2_ag1_m_021655.9682he didn't take that but1656.8293
1452 1657.1507I guess in dentistry school1658.4606 
1454 1658.8669they uh1659.3459 
1456 1659.8955even have courses like that, and1661.4771 
1458 1661.9574of course, the things about-1663.1520 
1460 1663.4127learning about teeth and1664.8318 
1462 1665.3472instruments, and1666.4751 
1464 1667.0672then, I guess they have about two years of1669.7572 
1466 1670.4692like a lab assistant or something, and1672.6523 
1468 1673.4505just working around other dentsits, and then1675.4032 
1470 1675.9611they probably get about1676.8647 
1472 1677.5000two years of experience or something, you know. Working1680.8003 
1474 1681.5743and1682.1746 
1476 1682.7022well like,1683.3814 
1478 1683.6118probably like a free clinic or something, you know,1685.8192 
1480 1686.3407where they don't charge you, but1687.9659 
1482 1688.0751you know, they are there for the experience.1689.8975 
1484 1690.4075And then I guess after that, they go out into the world on their own.1693.7087 
1485DCA_int_011695.4157That's good.1696.0086
1487 1697.2821If you had all the money in the world, what would you do with it?1699.8654 
1488DCA_se2_ag1_m_021701.3996Well, <heh>,1702.3699
1490 1702.8192uh, I don't know. I'd just1704.2965 
1492 1705.3819buy a boat,1706.3094 
1494 1707.2214big cruiser and1708.7290 
1496 1709.4850big fishing pole and1710.8878 
1498 1711.3950go out somewhere and1712.5714 
1500 1712.9353go fishing or something. I don't know.1714.7242 
1502 1715.7490Maybe1716.2766 
1504 1716.5701go on a,1717.1013 
1506 1717.4288I don't know, I've always seen on television all these1719.6105 
1508 1719.7856big hunting and fishing trips, and1721.7062 
1510 1722.0717I think I like to try one of those.1723.9516 
1511DCA_int_011726.1568Have you done fishing?1727.1091
1512DCA_se2_ag1_m_021727.9699Well,1728.4625
1514 1729.4071last summer,1730.3289 
1516 1730.4866this past summer, I used to fish just about1732.6029 
1518 1733.0032at least once or twice a week and-1735.0688 
1520 1735.4448because- I don't- my cousin-1736.8820 
1522 1737.2883he'd be about the only one that ever take me so1739.2228 
1524 1739.5381whenever I could1740.2719 
1526 1740.8397get him to take me, we'd1742.1314 
1528 1742.4406go fishing on Chesapeake Bay or somewhere.1744.9512 
1530 1745.1998He had a s- he bought1746.3459 
1532 1746.8311a small fishing boat and,1748.5290 
1534 1749.3455he- we'd go out on the bay and,1750.9282 
1536 1751.5133just1751.9660 
1538 1752.2745open it up, and go all across the bay or something.1755.0276 
1540 1755.4074A little sixteen foot1756.6684 
1542 1756.8686open1757.3783 
1544 1758.0028fishing boat, and.1759.1611 
1546 1759.8161I don't know, and then we'd just stop somewhere, and1761.8415 
1548 1762.5366I don't know I- he claims to know pretty-1765.1200 
1550 1765.4899quite a bit about fishing, but I don't think either one of us know [too much about it], but1769.1890 
1551DCA_int_011768.0842[<laugh>]1768.8324
1552DCA_se2_ag1_m_021769.7530you know, we just1770.7414
1554 1771.0364for the fun of it, go out. And1772.4796 
1556 1773.2298sometimes we catch fish, and we don't know what kind they are, and-1776.0319 
1557DCA_int_011776.0332<laugh>1776.7306
1558DCA_se2_ag1_m_021776.9550yeah- I don't- I remember one time we caught-1778.8652
1560 1779.4391w- well, I don't know what the scientific name for 'em are, but everybody on the1783.0654 
1562 1783.6476bay called 'em blow fish or something, and1785.7700 
1563DCA_int_011785.6797Mm-hm.1786.0237
1564DCA_se2_ag1_m_021786.2893I guess they call 'em that because1787.7144
1566 1788.0358right below the mouth there would be a big pouch, and they would just1790.9466 
1568 1791.1710blow up and1791.9047 
1570 1792.1837/I/ guess just fill it with air.1793.5057 
1572 1793.9098Like a big round bubble, and then they had1795.5861 
1574 1796.3283two big sharp teeth in the very front of their mouth, and they would1798.8278 
1576 1799.3917rub 'em together and make some funny noises and everything, and1802.2579 
1578 1802.6945first time we caught one of those, we-1804.4952 
1580 1805.0049we were afraid to [take him off the line.]1806.7636 
1581DCA_int_011805.6235[<laugh>]1806.4729
1582DCA_se2_ag1_m_021808.1379But1808.4411
1584 1808.6351I don't know.1809.1203 
1586 1809.5326Fishing.1810.1027 
1588 1811.8916And then-1812.4131 
1589DCA_int_011812.5573[How did you] do fishing most of the time?1814.5207
1590DCA_se2_ag1_m_021812.6678[Yeah.]1813.0559
1591 1815.6188Well, I've only been fishing once this-1817.5897
1593 1817.8868this summer so far, but1819.2513 
1595 1819.7424we didn't have any luck, to tell the truth. But1821.8770 
1597 1822.3147Someone down there- I think there were a couple of1824.1828 
1599 1824.3782soldiers down there, from one of the1826.1015 
1601 1826.4351forts around here, and they couldn't take the fish back, so they gave us about1829.4429 
1603 1830.0614thirty Blue Gills, [and we took] those home.1832.6001 
1604DCA_int_011831.5109[Mm-hm.]1831.8255
1605DCA_se2_ag1_m_021832.8669And of course my cousin said we [caught 'em, but]1835.2269
1606DCA_int_011834.7027[<laugh>]1835.6272
1607DCA_se2_ag1_m_021835.6558w-1835.8845
1609 1835.9798actually we [didn't so] <laugh>.1837.7303 
1610DCA_int_011836.6041[<laugh>]1837.1331
1611 1838.2387That's [/??/.]1839.3347
1612DCA_se2_ag1_m_021838.6984[We didn't catch] anything that day, but1840.1961
1614 1840.7360I rememb- I think our best catch was1842.8402 
1616 1843.0343one day we went out on Wicomico River.1845.4175 
1618 1845.8701And we caught1846.5371 
1620 1846.8040eighty eight Perch I think that day, which1848.9021 
1622 1849.4972just small fish, you know, about1851.2368 
1624 1851.4976so big.1852.2071 
1625DCA_int_011852.4983[/??/] that's a lot.1853.6126
1626DCA_se2_ag1_m_021852.6195[But]1852.8863
1628 1853.5572yeah.1854.0484 
1629 1854.6973I think- we stayed out all day.1856.3285
1631 1856.6438But, I- they were really biting that day, and1858.7239 
1633 1859.5728I was using two hooks,1861.1036 
1634DCA_int_011861.3705[Huh.]1861.6225
1635DCA_se2_ag1_m_021861.3800[I] started counting,1862.4875
1636 1862.9423and I think about six or seven times in a row, I just throw out1866.3685
1638 1867.1811and set the line down and hold it between my knees, and then, I'd put the other two fish on the line.1871.9878 
1640 1872.4972And then by then, I'd just wind it up again, and I have two more fish to take off and put down and1876.9946 
1641DCA_int_011876.9764<laugh>1877.7283
1642DCA_se2_ag1_m_021877.7162I don't know, they were really biting good that day.1879.5839
1643DCA_int_011879.5617Yeah, that's terrific.1880.6149
1644DCA_se2_ag1_m_021880.6149And then one time we were on the Chesapeake Bay,1882.7555
1645 1883.4325I guess we're about-1884.1541
1647 1885.0819we weren't too far out because1886.5616 
1649 1887.2226I guess about three or four hundred yards from the shore.1889.7816 
1651 1890.5071And my cousin's, is just a small boat, and he's six foot four, and he weighs about two hundred and sixty pounds or something.1896.2984 
1653 1897.0867And1897.6567 
1655 1897.9941at the time, he only had one broken up rod that he was using,1901.2748 
1657 1902.1169and1902.7302 
1659 1903.0819we were catching Spot at the time off of blood worms, and1905.7904 
1661 1906.0572they were really biting good that day too. We were catching two at a time and,1909.1687 
1663 1909.6472we were only out,1910.2536 
1665 1910.5811out there about1911.2465 
1667 1911.5271five minutes or something, and between the two of us, we caught1914.2780 
1669 1914.5751about ten good size Spot.1916.4550 
1671 1917.1039But1917.3828 
1673 1917.6739I don't know. I think he was1918.9353 
1675 1919.6326little- got a little lazy or something, and1921.6680 
1677 1922.1107let his rod go, and two fish hit it at the same- they hit it at the same time, and it went into the water.1927.3440 
1678DCA_int_011927.5076Uh!1927.8412
1679DCA_se2_ag1_m_021927.8936And he wasn't about ready to give the rod up so1930.5861
1681 1931.4109then he- he just1932.3872 
1683 1932.5812dives in the water, and1933.9032 
1685 1934.2792he weighs /these/1935.2252 
1687 1935.4898like I said, six four, two hundred and sixty pounds, and1938.3096 
1689 1938.7463he goes under water, and then1940.2320 
1691 1940.6140I guess about ten seconds, he comes back up. And1943.1951 
1693 1943.5893he has his pole in his [hand, and]1945.4176 
1694DCA_int_011944.8267[<laugh>]1946.0133
1695DCA_se2_ag1_m_021946.3060he said he- I asked him how found it. He said he just dived in and start going down, and he1950.3919
1697 1950.8823hit it as he was swimming underwater.1952.8349 
1699 1953.6846And as he was climbing back into the boat,1955.9519 
1701 1956.5583you know, he1957.0556 
1703 1957.2898it's just a small boat, and when he put his hands up on the side to get in1960.4068 
1705 1960.7040water starts [rushing into the boat, and]1962.7900 
1706DCA_int_011961.5226[<laugh>]1962.8143
1707 1963.2206Oh [geez.]1964.0150
1708DCA_se2_ag1_m_021963.6390[I started] getting scared. I don't know what to do, and1965.9201
1709 1966.5536I don't know. He just-1967.4689
1711 1967.7422he made it back in the boat, and then1969.0763 
1713 1969.4948after he got back in the boat-1970.7864 
1715 1971.1745this was only about five minutes after we had been out there- he,1973.9012 
1717 1974.4194while he was in the water, he had got stung by about fifty jelly fish [I guess. /Uh/]1978.7492 
1718DCA_int_011977.9973[Ah!]1978.6158
1719DCA_se2_ag1_m_021979.2829So, he did- he didn't know what it was or anything. I think he thought it was a rash or something, and1982.9737
1721 1983.6105so he didn't want to fish anymore, so we went home.1986.2319 
1722DCA_int_011986.1462<laugh>1986.8753
1723DCA_se2_ag1_m_021987.5036That was [/that/ short fishing trip.] Yeah.1989.6966
1724DCA_int_011987.9225/inaudible/1989.1760
1725 1991.0611Did he get any bad effects from the stings?1993.4746
1726DCA_se2_ag1_m_021993.6141No, he just went home and bought,1995.1316
1728 1995.5061bought some kind of ointment or something and1997.6324 
1729DCA_int_011997.5763Mm-hm.1997.9670
1730DCA_se2_ag1_m_021999.1382applied it on his skin, and2000.7251
1731DCA_int_012000.7632Mm-hm.2001.0920
1732DCA_se2_ag1_m_022001.4771then he- I don't know. Next day, he was okay.2003.5449
1734 2004.1006Except I was just a little mad at him [for]2006.0957 
1735DCA_int_012005.9326[<laugh>]2006.1042
1736 2006.2837[For ruining /the trip?/]2007.3718
1737DCA_se2_ag1_m_022006.6233[because yeah, uh-] those fish were really biting that day too.2009.5099
1738DCA_int_012009.8308/big fish/2010.8925
1740 2011.6483Did you ever get caught in a storm or anything like that? Out in the [little boat?]2015.3535 
1741DCA_se2_ag1_m_022014.5227[/Yeah/.<exhale>]2015.7658
1742 2015.8689Well, not in the boat but2017.3243
1744 2017.6033one time,2018.2158 
1746 2018.3552I think that was2018.9878 
1748 2019.1355before he was sixteen, and I was about2020.8333 
1750 2021.5670I guess nine or ten then.2023.2347 
1752 2023.5682We went fishing2024.5566 
1754 2025.0782um2025.5026 
1756 2025.9310in Virginia, Charlottesville, or somewhere near there,2028.3142 
1758 2028.7084where he lived at the time.2030.0182 
1760 2030.6704And2031.1804 
1762 2031.9345he couldn't drive then, and he didn't have a car anyway,2034.6430 
1764 2035.1402so his father took us2036.7024 
1766 2036.8564somewhere2037.5477 
1768 2038.0935where we were fishing, and he was gonna come back and pick us up2040.5555 
1770 2041.0081I think around nine o'clock or something, after it got dark.2043.9735 
1772 2044.1978Dark.2044.7497 
1774 2045.2348And2045.7503 
1776 2046.4234um2046.7933 
1778 2048.3374we fished for awhile, and2050.0354 
1780 2050.4235then a storm did come up, and we didn't have any transportation, uh2053.9650 
1781DCA_int_012054.0263Oh.2054.3027
1782DCA_se2_ag1_m_022054.3106we were just out in the open, you know, and we got soaked.2057.0919
1783DCA_int_012056.8760<laugh>2057.5670
1784DCA_se2_ag1_m_022057.6740And then when we got in the car2059.3295
1786 2059.5842it was dark, so his father told us we had to2061.9007 
1788 2062.1554go home in our underwear that night and-2064.0816 
1789DCA_int_012064.0937<laugh>2065.1428
1790DCA_se2_ag1_m_022065.4460so we went-2066.0767
1792 2066.2283we got to his house, and we jumped out of the car and ran into [the house in]2069.1270 
1793DCA_int_012068.4842<laugh>2069.1573
1794DCA_se2_ag1_m_022069.7835soaking underwear.2070.8605
1795DCA_int_012070.9558Oh [geez.]2071.8517
1796DCA_se2_ag1_m_022071.6778[But] I do- that was about2072.6420
1797 2072.7572nine at the time.2074.0307
1798DCA_int_012074.0426Mm-hm.2074.4382
1799DCA_se2_ag1_m_022074.9039He was about sixteen I guess.2076.5352
1800DCA_int_012076.6970Mm.2077.0402
1802 2077.4850/Well you've had quite a/ [/inaudible/]2079.3312 
1803DCA_se2_ag1_m_022078.3219[<laugh> Yes.]2079.7712
1804DCA_int_012080.0016fishing adventures.2081.3297
1806 2081.9361How does your family celebrate Christmas?2083.9069 
1807DCA_se2_ag1_m_022085.4814Usu- well,2086.2972
1809 2087.2339a Christmas tree,2088.3983 
1811 2088.8652presents, and2089.8112 
1813 2090.0416surprises mostly. And then2091.7093 
1815 2092.6167usually my mother, she makes candy or something and2095.7579 
1817 2096.8028buy a lot of a presents and surprises for each other and2100.2757 
1819 2100.7526usually we go out somewhere and2102.8386 
1821 2103.3177visit our, you know, cousins and relatives and things. And2106.0223 
1823 2106.8895they come to our house, and we go to their house and2108.9612 
1825 2109.2523take presents back and forth, and2110.8168 
1827 2111.5506I don't know, I think the main thing though is2113.1637 
1829 2113.7458wait-2114.0612 
1831 2114.2552everyone gets up2115.1284 
1833 2115.3021Christmas, I don't even think anyone goes to bed. They just wait to about three or four o'clock, and2119.2195 
1835 2119.5288especially when we were little.2120.7659 
1836DCA_int_012120.7412Mm-hm.2121.1367
1837DCA_se2_ag1_m_022121.3784I remember- you know, we'd be- we'd get toys and things and2124.7478
1839 2125.6453you know, we'd tell Santa Claus what we wanted, and2128.2590 
1841 2128.9832of course my mother and father'd buy it. And2131.2706 
1843 2131.8589we want to see what they'd gotten.2133.4719 
1845 2134.0116We'd run downstairs about- right after- we'd wait for them. We'd2137.2863 
1847 2137.6418listen to 'em go out to the car and get it, and2139.9038 
1849 2140.3768we'd wait til they put it under the tree and go back upstairs. And then we'd run [downstairs and get /??/.]2144.8742 
1850DCA_int_012144.0698[<laugh>]2145.0462
1851DCA_se2_ag1_m_022145.5594about five minutes after they put it there.2147.3078
1852DCA_int_012147.3411<laugh>2147.8415
1854 2148.5612Didn't last long.2149.7255 
1855DCA_se2_ag1_m_022149.8710No. [<laugh>]2150.6897
1856DCA_int_012150.1909[<laugh>]2150.6055
1857 2151.5122What was the best thing you ever got for Christmas? Do you remember?2154.2833
1858DCA_se2_ag1_m_022156.0118Hm.2156.3089
1860 2158.0433Well,2158.6072 
1862 2158.9832let's see.2159.7048 
1864 2160.4849For Christmas? No.2161.7887 
1866 2162.4133Well, I don't know for Christmas,2163.9475 
1867DCA_int_012163.9359Or [for a birthday.]2164.9271
1868DCA_se2_ag1_m_022164.2447[just about,] well for my birthday, I remember I got a bicycle once. [Uh.]2168.0508
1869DCA_int_012167.8870[/Oh] yeah/?2168.3782
1870DCA_se2_ag1_m_022168.8682a English Racer. I never had a bicycle before and2171.7620
1872 2172.2532so my m- my mother, she bought an English Racer for me. And I broke that up in a couple of weeks, [but]2176.7627 
1873DCA_int_012176.4353[Ha!]2176.8355
1874DCA_se2_ag1_m_022177.3570I don't it all started when2178.6244
1876 2178.8306one little screw fell off.2180.3102 
1878 2180.6620And it was, I don't know, a JC Higgins and2182.6510 
1880 2183.1218some, uh2184.0435 
1882 2184.2012one of my neighbors had had one2185.8143 
1884 2186.6066before I had.2187.4819 
1886 2187.9125And he told me right after I bought it, that I shouldn't never gotten a JC Higgins because2192.0763 
1888 2192.3432the parts2193.0223 
1890 2193.1436are hard to replace and everything. So,2195.0053 
1891DCA_int_012194.9594/Oh yeah/?2195.2835
1892DCA_se2_ag1_m_022195.3207one screw fell off, and then the next thing I knew, the fender was off, and-2198.6234
1893DCA_int_012198.6719Hm!2198.9205
1894DCA_se2_ag1_m_022199.3147next thing I knew the tire was all2200.9581
1896 2201.2734broken up and everything.2202.5954 
1898 2203.3474The next thing /and/ the seat was gone and pretty soon it was no more bike left.2207.4385 
1900 2208.2207And then I remember I got a bicycle- I mean a uh2210.4887 
1902 2210.7798watch for Christmas2212.4877 
1904 2212.6817when I was about twelve, and2214.2827 
1906 2215.5440that was an,2216.7386 
1908 2217.1571I don't know, I kind of liked that too, so.2219.1667 
1909DCA_int_012219.0110Uh-huh, hm.2219.6448
1910 2220.9065/??/.2221.3116
1912 2222.3397Turn to something a little more serious.2224.3227 
1914 2224.6320Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die?2228.2966 
1916 2230.2076/Ch- you were/ about the end?2231.5801 
1917DCA_se2_ag1_m_022232.0886Mm,2233.1741
1919 2234.4878no I don't really think so, um.2235.9068 
1921 2236.3677Once I was in a car accident, which wasn't really2238.9814 
1923 2239.3270very much of a car accident. No one was hurt or anything. That's about-2242.1325 
1925 2242.8420I don't know, I guess that's about the closest I've ever gotten to it.2245.7589 
1926DCA_int_012245.7682Mm, /??/.2246.3925
1927DCA_se2_ag1_m_022246.3830But, oh! Once,2247.4083
1928 2247.6266well I don't know.2248.5181
1930 2248.9425We were coming back from the beach or something and,2251.0082 
1932 2251.5176I was sleep anyway. The next thing I knew /unintelligible/ just had a accident or something.2255.3623 
1934 2256.0172But2256.3628 
1936 2256.7609I don't know.2257.2157 
1938 2257.5176But2257.8083 
1940 2258.4952that w- it really wasn't anything serious. I don- I don't even know if it was2261.5334 
1942 2262.0306I don't even think we hit another car or anything. It probably just had a flat tire or something and went off the road and2266.4977 
1944 2266.9949maybe bumped into a tree or something.2268.7726 
1945DCA_int_012268.8095Mm-hm.2269.1526
1946DCA_se2_ag1_m_022269.6673And then, oh, and one other time2271.4824
1948 2272.2625I thought I was d- I. Well it wasn't, of course I2274.6032 
1950 2274.9974knew it wasn't anything serious gonna really happen, but2277.5929 
1952 2278.4457at the time it was happening, I was pretty afraid. I-2280.9320 
1954 2281.3201I remember when I was about2282.4177 
1956 2282.8607I guess about eight years old, and I was taking swimming lessons at the neighborhood swimming pool. And2287.4851 
1958 2288.2588the life guard told me to jump in the six feet, and I was about three feet tall.2292.0140 
1960 2292.4335And this was at the end of the course though, so2294.4029 
1962 2294.7781he said,2295.1844 
1964 2295.3966jump in,2296.0637 
1966 2296.2638and go to the bottom. And he had shown us how to2298.4348 
1968 2298.7198push off from the bottom and come back up to the top.2300.7634 
1970 2301.3191And I was about three feet tall, so2303.2050 
1972 2303.6598I jumped in, but I never reached the bottom. I was just kind of2306.8678 
1974 2307.1103hung there in the middle of the pool2308.7719 
1976 2309.4713drinking about2310.0492 
1978 2310.1887ten gallons [of water] I guess and2311.9534 
1979DCA_int_012310.6770[<laugh>]2310.9629
1980DCA_se2_ag1_m_022312.4203I don't know I finally2313.4270
1982 2313.5923got out, and2314.4457 
1984 2314.9794I didn't come back to swimming lessons [anymore.]2317.0269 
1985DCA_int_012316.6812[<laugh>]2317.4271
1986 2318.0135Gee whiz, that's really something.2319.9102
1988 2321.4658Sometimes when you talk about these things, people say, well whatever's gonna happen, is gonna happen.2325.3447 
1990 2325.6236[/Nothing gonna stop it/.] Do you agree with that or?2327.7157 
1991DCA_se2_ag1_m_022325.6276[Yeah.]2326.1900
1992 2328.0735Well, no not really. I don't know.2329.6805
1994 2330.0565Well2330.4143 
1996 2332.1464about this particular- I did learn to swim later on, I mean, but2335.2290 
1998 2336.2762I think, just about anything can be avoided. I mean, if2339.5243 
2000 2339.7244you take the necessary2341.4042 
2002 2342.6230uh steps to avoid it.2344.2258