Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DCA_int_01	0.3752	Can you remember what kind of games you used to play when you were a kid?	4.0672
2	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	4.2960	Yes.	5.0280
3	DCA_int_01	4.8563	Around about ten years old or so.	6.7589
4	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	6.7532	Yes.	7.4875
5	DCA_int_01	7.7216	What were they?	8.6020
6	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	8.5700	Hide and go seek,	9.9501
7		10.7870	We um, used to play kickball,	12.9392
9		13.0201	baseball,	14.0045
11		14.1217	football,	14.9518
13		15.0742	eat the peg.	16.2427
15		17.2111	Let me see now um	19.4152
16	DCA_int_01	20.6928	Eat the peg?	21.7322
17	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	21.6140	Yes, [that's a-]	22.6748
18	DCA_int_01	21.9880	How do you play that? /??/	24.0752
19	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	22.8084	[that's a game] you play with uh, sharp objects such as a screwdriver	27.1563
20		28.5029	or a knife,	29.6037
22		30.9279	and uh you would uh,	32.6128
24		33.0481	it was a sort of around the world game you know you start at one point,	36.3297
26		36.8002	s- sticking the screwdriver into the ground,	39.0888
28		39.4786	if you fail to stick the screw- screwdriver into the ground,	42.6757
30		43.3044	then it was the other person's turn,	45.2830
32		45.4157	and he would start	46.4229
34		46.7428	from his uh,	47.9996
36		49.0319	and just throwing it into the ground,	50.9810
38		51.1794	just	51.7861
40		51.9275	throwing it on the shoulder,	53.3715
42		53.6044	knee	54.3315
44		54.5093	foot	55.1029
46		55.4624	head	56.1139
48		56.4749	and chin,	57.3718
50		57.5849	and what have you.	58.6370
52		58.8396	The first one who completed the game	60.7625
54		61.1801	well,	61.9203
56		62.4107	the other one would eat the peg.	64.0535
58		64.2325	Other words they would uh	65.6242
60		66.8397	stick the screwdriver	67.7428
62		67.8213	as far down in the ground as they could-	69.2820
64		69.3635	as it would go	70.1718
66		70.2442	and um,	70.9698
68		71.1149	he would try to get it out with his teeth.	72.7026
69	DCA_int_01	72.7156	Oh.	73.5094
70	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	74.4167	So in that way he would eat the peg.	75.9096
71	DCA_int_01	78.1890	How did you uh, play hide and seek?	80.1351
72	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	80.7286	Hide and seek you would uh,	82.5732
74		83.6108	select a candidate	84.7992
76		84.8656	to uh,	86.0658
78		87.9300	select a candidate	89.2260
80		90.1849	to	90.8122
82		91.0535	cover himself	91.9156
84		92.3927	by uh well placing his	94.2039
86		94.5764	forearms over his eyes	96.3731
88		97.0846	and uh,	97.8507
90		98.0076	against the lamp post, up against the lamp post	100.0872
92		101.0057	and all the others would	102.0131
94		102.1337	well,	102.6895
96		103.0808	run and hide.	103.9675
97	DCA_int_01	103.9750	Mm-hm.	104.5657
99		105.1815	How did you pick the guy to	106.7532
101		107.5402	face against the lamp post, how-	109.1685
102	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	109.1267	It was a hot potato thing, you know.	110.8130
103	DCA_int_01	111.3245	How does that work?	112.2494
104	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	112.3018	Well you know you	113.4512
106		114.9319	you put your all-	115.7605
108		115.8548	all-	116.1987
110		116.2710	ea- no everyone in the games would	117.7490
112		117.8334	put their hands together	118.9973
114		119.1680	you know, one on top of the other,	120.7601
116		121.7499	and they would just sing,	122.9588
118		123.0046	hot potato hot potato,	124.8477
120		124.9893	I forget the lyrics behind it but you know,	127.0660
122		127.2803	it was this sort of thing.	128.2395
124		128.4868	and the last one out	129.5424
126		129.6932	would be it.	130.4334
128		130.7791	And it,	131.3596
130		131.4306	he would be the candidate,	132.6604
132		133.1184	for	133.5406
134		133.6010	you know,	134.1801
136		134.4515	covering his face,	135.4469
137	DCA_int_01	135.7545	how did he get out-	136.7951
139		136.9450	I mean how did the first one get out of it	138.7895
141		139.0020	/inaudible/	140.1790
143		140.6307	[How did they-]	141.7000
144	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	140.6368	[Well uh,]	141.6759
145	DCA_int_01	141.9660	Do you remember how they-	143.0501
146	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	143.0277	Yeah,	143.5574
147		143.6671	it was a lyric	144.4694
149		144.6202	they- they went,	145.3200
151		145.3622	hot potato, hot potato,	147.2925
153		148.4025	I just can't get the rest of it anyway,	150.4473
155		150.5608	it would go all the way around,	151.7813
156	DCA_int_01	151.7371	Uh-huh.	152.2465
157	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	152.2137	and wherever it stopped, he was eliminated.	154.1863
158		154.5081	all the way around each candidate til	156.3462
160		156.3929	they got to the last one, the last one was it automatically [it.]	159.1316
161	DCA_int_01	159.0230	[I] see,	159.7965
162		160.3983	and what did you do when- when everyone hid?	162.4025
163	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	163.0694	Well,	163.6908
165		163.8175	you tried to find them.	165.0870
166	DCA_int_01	166.3933	How does it work though when you find them?	168.4831
167	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	168.7232	Well when he [finds you],	170.0322
168	DCA_int_01	169.0858	[/inaudible/]	170.4108
169	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	170.4732	right, when he finds one of 'em,	172.2655
171		172.8548	everyone is hiding,	173.9853
173		174.3749	when he finds one,	175.7739
175		177.5600	then he would try to make it back	179.3029
177		179.5072	to the base, which would be the lamp post, a tree, or	182.4489
179		182.8732	what have you,	183.5858
181		184.0435	before the-	184.7837
183		184.8519	the other guy	185.7879
185		186.3720	touches the thing, he would try to touch the lamp post or the base	189.2208
187		190.1404	before the other	191.0459
189		191.1357	uh kid did.	191.9411
191		192.7765	and which one of us	193.8382
193		194.0976	you know,	194.6646
195		194.7430	touch first,	195.7627
197		196.4342	if- if um- if the other guy	198.1975
199		198.3102	would touch first	199.3058
201		199.5951	then he would be uh,	200.8359
203		200.9283	well	201.4362
205		201.5195	say free.	202.2766
206	DCA_int_01	202.4439	Mm-hm.	203.1316
207	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	204.2656	But if	204.8850
209		205.3877	the person who was it touched it	206.8737
211		207.0526	first	207.6810
213		207.8148	then	208.3034
215		208.4904	the other person	209.4733
217		209.6426	was a candidate for being it.	211.2337
218	DCA_int_01	211.3075	Oh, I see.	212.4093
220		214.0522	What about kickball?	215.2567
221	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	215.7065	Uh, kickball you would select a team	218.2535
223		218.6235	we had ver- uh, very large teams you know,	221.1051
225		221.5874	sometimes as much as uh	223.4937
227		223.5600	nine, ten, eleven guys on the team, [you know.]	226.1482
228	DCA_int_01	225.7555	[Mm-hm.]	226.1342
229	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	226.7258	Most of the time- I was a pretty big kid,	229.0782
231		229.1689	you know,	229.8136
232	DCA_int_01	229.8831	Mm-hm.	230.3973
233	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	230.4317	and uh,	231.2340
235		231.9096	well most kids my age were rather small, you know	234.8542
236	DCA_int_01	234.4251	Mm-hm.	234.9439
237	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	235.4627	and I used to uh	236.7174
239		236.8441	well,	237.4362
241		237.7489	take a few guys against maybe	239.9258
243		240.4683	well	240.8664
245		240.9328	twice	241.6265
247		242.1755	the number of my team,	243.3597
249		243.8183	and we would play.	244.7094
250	DCA_int_01	244.8318	[Mm-hm.]	245.4169
251	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	245.0007	[simply] because they would say I was a little larger	247.4739
252		247.5101	[you know,]	248.0913
253	DCA_int_01	247.5162	[Mm-hm.]	248.1315
254	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	248.8131	a little stronger.	249.7303
255	DCA_int_01	249.7167	Mm-hm.	250.3451
256	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	250.3863	Well,	250.9204
258		252.0392	the opposite team would get the field,	253.7584
260		253.8971	and we would do this by uh,	255.5603
262		256.4268	flipping a coin most times, you know	258.3621
264		258.7492	or	259.3489
266		259.7741	selecting a candidate from each side to race another	262.8508
267	DCA_int_01	262.7541	Mm-hm.	263.2668
268	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	263.1402	race the other,	263.8037
269		264.0317	whoever would win, you know	265.4131
271		265.6544	they would	266.3800
273		266.4990	say who was- who would be on the field and who would be up	268.6827
275		268.7550	at uh	269.5431
277		270.5346	you know,	271.0292
278	DCA_int_01	270.8504	Mm-hm.	271.4234
279	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	271.4174	to kick first.	272.4129
280		273.3894	Anyway,	274.2580
282		275.5188	the opposing team would be in the field,	277.4795
284		278.3199	while the other team would be	280.0313
286		280.2985	um,	280.8238
288		281.8729	ready to kick,	282.8200
289	DCA_int_01	282.8918	Mm-hm.	283.5826
290	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	283.1270	you know.	283.7859
291		283.8992	And you form a- a- semi-formal line	286.2792
293		287.1144	you know,	287.6259
295		287.9456	one right behind the other	289.2004
297		289.7372	okay,	290.5215
299		290.9136	we would have something like a pitcher,	292.7654
301		293.1476	someone at first base,	294.7077
303		295.4218	no no no wait a minute, a pitcher,	297.1517
305		297.4306	and everyone else	298.5248
307		298.7933	was in the outfield to catch the ball.	300.6204
309		301.2686	If the pitcher-	302.2941
311		302.3725	you know if	303.0459
313		303.2653	the pitcher	303.8879
315		303.9651	pitched the ball,	304.9166
317		305.5757	you had three chances to kick it.	307.4753
319		309.0431	Okay you have three fouls,	310.7683
321		310.8588	and you're out.	311.6497
322	DCA_int_01	311.9627	Mm-hm.	312.4815
323	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	312.3488	That's the way we played it we made up our own rules	314.4517
324	DCA_int_01	314.4517	Mm-hm.	314.7555
325	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	314.9991	you know,	315.6318
327		316.1151	and if we	316.8028
329		316.8570	pitch the ball and it was kicked-	318.4858
331		318.9442	and it was kicked by the high or pop ball,	320.9426
333		321.4404	a fly pop,	322.1820
334	DCA_int_01	322.2608	Mm-hm.	322.8094
335	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	322.6107	and someone caught it	323.6033
336		324.1188	then you were out	324.8487
338		324.8909	and if the other person had changed bases	327.0517
340		327.2329	if he-	327.7525
342		327.9085	by any chance he was on a base	329.4846
344		329.6639	if he didn't get back to the same base,	331.4620
346		331.9743	then he would be out because we would	333.4922
348		333.6803	just throw the ball at him	335.1721
349	DCA_int_01	335.0780	Mm-hm.	335.5582
350	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	335.4782	and if it touched him he would be out.	336.8970
351		337.4733	But if it didn't he was safe, as long as he got away from the ball.	340.3939
353		340.6748	It was something like dodgeball.	342.3636
354	DCA_int_01	342.1635	Mm-hm.	342.7556
355		343.7110	Mm, that's different.	344.7035
357		344.8315	Not everybody plays it just that way [<laugh>]	346.9899
358	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	346.7044	[Right.]	347.3927
359	DCA_int_01	347.0700	You just add your own /unintelligible/ to it	349.3339
360		349.7992	Uh let's see what else we got here.	351.8484
362		352.7606	Um,	353.2810
364		354.0253	did you watch TV very much?	355.7668
365	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	356.0779	I used to when I was a kid I don't have too much time to watch TV anymore.	360.0659
366	DCA_int_01	360.1718	What kind of programs do you like?	361.8640
367	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	362.2968	Well, now	363.4273
369		363.6254	let's see,	364.4149
371		365.0101	I really couldn't say right now but at the time I could tell you.	367.5977
372	DCA_int_01	367.5466	Oh yeah.	368.2989
373	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	368.6271	At that time I would- I would watch	370.2278
375		370.3639	uh, such things as cartoons and uh,	373.5320
377		373.8135	I hated news- news broadcasts at that time,	375.9105
378	DCA_int_01	375.4462	Mm-hm.	376.1519
379	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	376.0145	at that time,	376.8911
380		377.1406	[I just hated them.]	378.1090
381	DCA_int_01	377.1406	[/unintelligible/]	378.3971
382	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	378.2451	and you know,	379.0614
383		379.5017	and commercials,	380.4355
385		380.5475	that were all the	381.4488
387		381.7721	humorless- humorless ones. You know the very fun- funny ones?	385.1577
388	DCA_int_01	385.1177	Mm-hm.	385.6379
389	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	385.5499	I loved those.	386.2942
390	DCA_int_01	386.4783	Yeah.	386.8945
391	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	386.5343	You know like,	387.3811
392		387.5936	Three Stooges	388.4542
394		388.5781	sort of thing or	389.5521
395	DCA_int_01	389.3704	Mm-hm.	390.0107
396	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	389.8187	Phyllis Diller	390.6575
397		390.7471	you know.	391.3474
399		392.8469	Well, I used to watch well,	394.8583
401		395.9843	Hawaiian Eye and	397.7592
402	DCA_int_01	397.7292	/inaudible/	399.3387
403	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	399.1859	Yeah.	399.7222
404	DCA_int_01	399.6741	Is that one on anymore?	400.7466
405	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	400.6346	No I haven't seen that one anymore.	402.5023
406		403.3638	uh, Sky King	405.3666
407	DCA_int_01	405.3889	Mm-hm.	406.0463
408	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	405.9972	you know, Humpty Dumpty and uh Buster Brown	408.8199
409	DCA_int_01	408.7800	Mm-hm.	409.6430
410		410.5648	Oldies.	411.1571
411	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	411.1491	Yeah oldies see I was young then.	413.1440
412	DCA_int_01	412.8059	Mm-hm.	413.5662
413	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	413.5502	Yeah.	414.1745
414	DCA_int_01	414.0384	Uh,	414.5594
415		415.4071	do you remember a TV program	417.3575
417		417.5681	uh that you saw recently that you could tell me the story of?	420.7225
418	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	421.2526	TV program.	422.7013
419	DCA_int_01	424.6410	/inaudible/	426.4293
420	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	427.3862	Let's see.	428.4507
422		432.1753	I don't pay too much attention /to them/ anymore.	434.3329
423	DCA_int_01	435.0966	/Let's try again/ what kind of stories do you remember?	438.2299
425		438.3541	/That's one way to do it/.	439.4179
427		440.2517	Do you go to the movies?	441.2602
428	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	441.7292	Movies?	442.5216
430		442.7137	Well,	443.2899
432		443.4020	the last movie I went to was uh, Sidney Poitier's uh	447.1578
434		449.2315	what was it,	450.2430
436		450.3520	uh,	451.1807
438		452.3770	it wasn't Guess Who's Coming to Dinner	454.5814
440		455.3038	it was uh,	455.9639
442		456.2372	To Sir With Love	457.4078
443	DCA_int_01	457.3048	Mm-hm.	458.0202
444	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	458.5942	so then	459.4426
445	DCA_int_01	459.4237	Can you tell me what that was about?	460.7903
446	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	461.1394	Sure it was about uh,	462.7270
448		464.1968	a black teacher	465.6408
450		465.9657	in France	467.0702
452		467.3424	teaching uh,	468.6230
454		468.8150	well	469.5203
456		469.8075	predominately	470.8960
458		471.0721	white kids or	472.1286
460		472.3047	French kids you know	473.5692
461	DCA_int_01	473.4572	Mm-hm.	474.2416
462	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	474.0335	light complexion.	475.2660
463	DCA_int_01	475.2870	Mm-hm.	475.9095
464	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	476.6106	and uh	477.6512
466		477.8752	well,	478.6691
468		479.8713	they gave him a rough time, you [know.]	481.8015
469	DCA_int_01	481.2479	Mm-[hm.]	482.0682
470	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	482.1603	And he started off as being a nice guy.	484.3213
472		484.4814	Even the staff-	485.3938
474		485.5219	the staff members gave him a rough time, you know.	488.1937
475	DCA_int_01	487.7084	Mm.	488.3967
476	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	489.4917	And he tried to get along with his uh,	491.7569
478		492.0771	class	492.9002
479	DCA_int_01	492.9094	Mm-hm.	493.4914
480	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	493.3576	you know	493.9498
481		494.1740	cause he had an uh- roughly, uh-	496.3335
483		496.9113	rough necks	497.7184
485		497.8237	you know, even the girls.	499.1647
486	DCA_int_01	499.2804	Hm.	499.9407
487	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	501.1372	But	501.7177
489		503.8745	who managed to uh	505.1711
491		505.3152	get through to 'em, you know	506.9435
492	DCA_int_01	506.4037	Mm-hm.	507.1719
493	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	507.4762	stop 'em from jiving around, playing in class	510.0695
495		510.6688	to learning, you know, something.	512.3204
497		513.5502	And then he conducted some	515.2554
499		515.5831	projects	516.5468
501		516.7196	you know and strategy	518.4597
502	DCA_int_01	518.5445	Mm-hm.	519.2488
503	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	519.1368	and he used it	520.1918
504	DCA_int_01	520.0652	Mm-hm.	520.8663
505	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	520.8816	and I think he did pretty well.	522.7972
507		523.4428	At the end uh,	524.8998
509		525.4437	one of his students the one who gave him a very rough time I think they had a boxing match	529.4775
511		529.6056	he was a rough guy you know	531.0623
512	DCA_int_01	530.7261	Yeah.	531.3428
513	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	531.5905	he was a white kid	532.5658
515		532.9553	he was big for his age like I said you know,	535.2193
516	DCA_int_01	535.1804	Mm-hm.	535.7609
517	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	535.7086	I said I was	536.6606
518		536.8771	and like	537.6455
520		537.7736	the rest of th- of the class looked up to him as being you know	541.1129
522		541.8715	rough guy yeah	543.2255
524		543.7763	or a leader.	544.7211
526		545.9694	And uh, he would give him such a rough time til one day they almost got into a uh,	550.4290
528		550.6607	pushing match	551.8217
530		552.1654	and so uh,	553.5861
532		554.0222	think the next period he had to teach 'em gym, he had to take 'em to gym you know and	558.0786
534		558.6644	teach 'em some gymnastics,	560.2767
536		560.8414	and while he was in gym uh,	562.7861
538		563.1144	they were boxing everyone wanted to box.	565.4002
540		565.6998	and he had to teach 'em how to box well these guys already knew how to [box],	569.1912
541	DCA_int_01	568.7572	[<laugh>]	569.6018
542	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	569.5896	most of 'em better than he.	571.0887
543	DCA_int_01	571.0462	Mm-hm.	571.7182
544	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	572.4069	Anyway the biggest one	573.9777
546		574.1858	said well why won't you box me, you know.	576.6109
548		577.7234	And everyone you know,	579.0876
550		580.3966	helped it	580.9902
551	DCA_int_01	581.0369	Mm-hm.	581.7093
552	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	581.2610	you know, helped the situation by you know,	583.3523
553		583.5021	yeah, come on let's	584.6457
554	DCA_int_01	584.4945	Mm-hm.	585.2419
555	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	585.0548	see you all box.	586.2535
556		586.6395	and they box and uh, the guy gave him a rough time at first, a very rough time.	590.8975
558		591.1167	as a matter of fact he was almost at the point where-	593.6139
560		593.7420	where I thought he was gonna lose you know	595.5188
561	DCA_int_01	595.2627	Mm-hm.	595.9473
562	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	596.3191	until he	597.4148
564		597.5677	managed to slip a lucky one in	599.6488
566		599.9368	hitting the kid in the stomach	601.3054
568		601.4895	knocking his breath out, you know.	603.2847
569	DCA_int_01	602.7861	Mm-hm.	603.5439
570	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	604.7372	He was	605.0093
572		605.2174	gagging and gasping for air for about a hour, even when he went back to class.	609.1982
574		610.3558	And so then after that	612.1626
576		612.5328	after he got through to him	613.8134
578		614.0535	and this- this girl, the leader of the girls	616.2625
580		616.5186	and everything I think	617.6392
582		617.7672	kind of cooled down	618.8803
583	DCA_int_01	618.6956	Mm-hm.	619.3502
584	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	619.1919	and the kids really learned, you know.	621.0886
585		621.6491	And he was commended by the faculty by some members,	624.5487
587		625.8431	some were still uh, prejudice you know,	627.8440
589		628.0361	toward him.	628.7564
591		630.0370	But I think he did a pretty good job,	631.5956
593		631.8830	and the picture was very nice.	633.4315
594	DCA_int_01	634.4441	/Sounds like a great movie./	635.7087
595	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	635.6607	It was.	636.2530
596		636.5091	As a matter of fact I recommend it.	638.1055
597	DCA_int_01	638.5420	Is it still playing around?	639.8525
598	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	639.9004	Yes, uh it was- it was up on uh,	641.9705
600		642.5439	New Hampshire	643.6498
602		644.0646	forget the theater but it- it's in uh	646.4403
604		647.2821	it's in Maryland.	648.2126
605	DCA_int_01	648.2286	Mm-hm.	649.0529
606	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	649.2531	What's the part in Maryland, grandma?	650.8521
607	misc	651.3821	/Langley Park, is that the part?/	652.8387
608	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	652.6146	Langley Park.	653.7031
609	DCA_int_01	658.0813	Have you ever had a pet or do you have one now?	660.5832
610	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	660.4432	<ts> Sure I used to	661.8556
611		662.0511	love dogs,	662.9770
613		663.0916	had to have me a dog.	664.4717
615		665.3326	I think every- every one of my dogs	667.5313
617		667.7639	the one I called my own	669.3647
619		669.6208	got killed	670.3145
621		670.4532	one way or- or another, you know.	672.3195
622	DCA_int_01	672.2140	How did they get killed [exactly?]	673.9428
623	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	673.5746	[Well I] used to run around the block and they used to chase me I used to love when they'd chase me you know	677.7205
624		677.8806	especially when- while they were small you know.	680.1228
626		682.0946	And uh,	682.8791
628		683.2919	something always led them astray and they would run out in the street and get smashed.	687.7412
629	DCA_int_01	687.6623	Mm-hm.	688.4053
630		690.6717	What kind were they?	691.8457
631	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	692.3044	Cocker spaniel, you know,	694.7055
633		694.8976	and some- most mixed breeds but I had a few	697.4620
635		697.8110	cocker spaniels.	698.7451
636	DCA_int_01	698.7856	Mm-hm.	699.2563
637	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	699.2837	Some caught very bad cold you know cause I couldn't bring 'em in the house.	703.1237
639		704.9424	As a matter of fact I think one of my dogs froze	707.2223
640	DCA_int_01	707.5144	Uh-huh.	708.0307
641	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	708.0659	froze to death.	709.0789
642	DCA_int_01	710.3230	They do anything that was funny or [/unintelligible/]	713.2588
643	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	711.8418	[<ts> Sure], yeah, I used to play with 'em all the time stick my hand /on down in the mouth/. You know their little teeth?	716.9180
644	DCA_int_01	717.1092	Mm-hm.	717.6810
645	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	717.5254	Sharp as spikes you [know and]	719.1885
646	DCA_int_01	718.6366	Mm-hm.	719.0502
647	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	719.3342	sort of tickle instead of hurt, [you know.]	721.4197
648	DCA_int_01	720.9249	[Mm-hm.]	721.2939
649	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	722.3756	but as they get a little older you know it begins to	724.9048
651		725.1289	hurt [you know]	726.1898
652	DCA_int_01	725.5291	[Mm-hm.]	726.2692
653	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	726.3775	as the teeth get stronger and you know, harder.	728.8477
655		730.1603	And uh I used to stick my hand all /though that- up in the-/ you know and then	734.0501
657		734.3863	take a string and	735.4588
659		735.8269	tease him with it until he grab the string and then you know make him growl [you know]	739.7322
660	DCA_int_01	739.1084	[Mm-hm.]	739.6449
661	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	740.2810	until I made him mean and I had to have a mean dog, [everyone else had] one.	744.4910
662	DCA_int_01	743.2768	[<laugh>]	744.1474
663		744.9279	Mm-hm.	745.3318
664	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	745.3941	So uh	746.3083
666		746.6346	I used to get him to a point you know I used to like him you know I	749.1467
668		749.6440	if I shook or wore pants or something they would think I wanted to play with 'em you know they see my pants [dangling and]	754.5423
669	DCA_int_01	753.9007	[Mm-hm.]	754.4542
670	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	754.9026	away they go biting at my pants you know	757.0461
672		757.3197	and my socks.	758.2267
673	DCA_int_01	758.0774	Mm-hm.	758.9148
674		760.1521	/inaudible/	762.2014
676		764.8647	What did you study when you were in grammar school?	767.1896
678		767.5300	/inaudible/	768.2862
679	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	768.1943	Yeah.	769.0535
680		769.9872	Well I was on the general track.	771.6315
682		772.0550	We had a- we have a- we had a track	773.6455
684		773.8238	the you know track system in schools	775.8424
686		776.0648	which they don't have now	777.4566
688		777.5215	/??/ now.	778.6781
690		779.3812	Well I was on a general track I took English,	782.4505
692		783.2790	general English you know,	784.7810
694		785.0906	mathematics,	786.1036
696		786.3872	business and	787.5685
698		787.7078	typing, all business courses	789.6206
700		790.0637	everything relating to business,	791.5924
702		792.9371	I had	793.6787
703	DCA_int_01	793.6787	Mm-hm.	794.2257
704	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	793.8735	you know.	794.5805
705		795.5463	I took those courses.	797.0120
706	DCA_int_01	797.1178	Was that in grammar school /inaudible/?	799.2066
708		799.6310	or high school?	800.3073
709	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	801.0236	I was in grammar through- from grammar through high.	803.3443
710	DCA_int_01	803.3955	Really?	803.8716
711	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	803.8518	Yeah.	804.3945
712		804.9243	It-	805.2524
714		805.3565	it's anything relating to uh	807.0907
716		807.2293	business you know.	808.3258
717	DCA_int_01	808.1733	They had that /?/ in grammar [school?]	810.0706
718	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	809.4704	[Yeah.]	810.0625
719	DCA_int_01	810.3508	Most schools don't /have that/.	812.0952
720	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	812.3678	When you- when you say grammar school I'm sure you mean uh junior high?	815.1136
721	misc	815.9403	[You know or elementary.]	817.3480
722	DCA_int_01	816.1644	[Yeah and]-	817.0700
723		817.5410	yeah elementary and junior high.	819.6729
724	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	819.7100	Elementary and junior high well I think that	821.5705
726		821.7458	elementary's- my elementary education was uh	824.2491
728		824.7552	somewhat of a stepping stone, you know	826.5720
729	DCA_int_01	826.5720	Mm-hm.	827.1688
730	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	827.5725	but it- it was still the things they gave us w- you know they were related to business	831.9610
731	DCA_int_01	831.9773	Mm-hm.	832.6130
732	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	832.5776	business concepts, you know.	834.1870
733	DCA_int_01	834.1870	Mm-hm.	834.6607
735		835.7871	Mm.	836.3603
737		836.9264	What do kids do after school when they're uh when they're in grammar school?	840.7229
738	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	841.0485	When you say grammar school a- again I ask [you]	843.0014
739	DCA_int_01	842.5772	[In] elementary school.	843.6590
740	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	843.6590	elementary.	844.4183
741		845.3224	Well,	846.0749
743		846.1469	on the way home we had a ball	847.9158
745		848.2519	you know just before we departed from one another.	850.6218
746	DCA_int_01	850.6218	Mm-hm.	851.2937
747	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	852.3626	used to play tag and uh	853.9531
749		854.2815	yeah tag	855.3714
751		855.5541	/unintelligible/	856.5946
753		856.7387	you know you had to tag the person and say I'll see you tomorrow and he didn't want you to tag him he wanted to tag you [back and then run] you know	862.6741
754	DCA_int_01	861.4874	[<laugh>]	862.2054
755	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	863.0990	get away.	863.6214
757		864.5505	And	865.3765
759		865.8631	came home together, change clothes and the first one out-	868.7284
761		869.5688	first one out would go	870.9855
763		871.1295	find another guy to play with you know	872.9973
765		873.1520	for his play mate.	874.0130
766	DCA_int_01	874.2325	Mm-hm.	874.8406
767	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	875.7532	And we used to build skate trucks and uh	878.7177
769		879.3817	anything that would move you know	880.9515
771		881.7268	or we would	882.3958
773		882.5832	build anything	883.5337
775		884.0399	and the kids don't do it anymore.	885.4534
777		886.3690	Dull you know.	887.2495
778	DCA_int_01	887.2495	Mm.	887.9681
779	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	888.0018	Used to always have something going	889.3198
781		889.4406	Cowboys and Indians and anything you know	891.8888
783		892.1359	we'd make our own horses.	893.5719
785		894.6238	with wooden sticks you know and put saddles on 'em and	897.5524
787		897.9053	put	898.1934
789		898.2735	things like	898.9890
791		899.0739	kids have on their bicycles	900.6194
792	DCA_int_01	900.5946	Yeah.	901.2259
793	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	901.4670	draping things you know,	902.5197
794	DCA_int_01	902.4274	Mm-hm.	903.0781
795	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	904.1162	make our own horses.	905.1916
797		905.6184	Make cardboard faces	906.9677
799		907.9875	it was unique but it was good.	909.4282
801		909.7699	/Say a lot [better]/	910.9776
802	DCA_int_01	910.3910	[Mm-hm.]	910.9776
803		911.5307	So, kids don't do that these days?	913.1956
804	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	913.2644	I- I don't understand when kids just don't do it these days you know.	916.5204
806		916.7572	I think kids uh	917.9386
808		919.1743	these days uh	920.2868
810		920.3829	they look for things	921.4154
812		921.5114	destructive instead of you know constructing things you know they	924.8409
814		925.7402	try to	926.1623
816		926.5005	tear up everything you [know.]	927.8118
817	DCA_int_01	927.5714	[Mm-hm.]	927.8574
818	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	928.4668	If you buy a kid a toy	929.7265
820		930.2197	he'll play with it	931.1630
822		931.5963	he'll play with it	932.3726
824		932.7916	but if another kids have a- has a toy of the same kind	935.4249
826		935.5770	he'll break his,	936.5054
828		936.7455	and wanna play with the other kid's toy.	938.2374
829	DCA_int_01	939.0827	Mm.	939.6429
831		939.8590	Kids are funny.	940.9039
832	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	941.0996	Yeah ki- k- kids are funny that way.	942.9122
833	DCA_int_01	943.5407	What do kids do once they're teenagers in high school after school's out?	947.7267
834	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	948.1858	Teenagers in high school?	949.3558
835	DCA_int_01	949.3599	Uh-huh.	949.7546
836	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	950.2095	Well when I was a teenager in high school I used to come home and do my homework afterwards I used to jump over to the playground where they had [recreation]	956.8458
837	misc	956.4972	[/unintelligible/]	956.7998
838	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	957.0888	recreational facilities such as checkers	959.9861
840		960.9225	boxing,	962.1851
841	misc	966.6292	/Give me that book/.	967.4871
842	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	969.2333	<laugh> boxing uh,	970.6411
844		971.9613	football,	972.8027
846		973.2512	and we had tournaments you know like in the Summer time	975.9824
848		976.4342	the uh- recreational fac- uh department would buy watermelons and uh you know luncheons and everything	983.3013
850		983.4407	and we- we would- we would have to- uh we would have to	986.0152
852		987.0504	you know	987.5146
854		988.6271	compete with each other	989.9387
856		990.2489	you know	990.7973
858		990.9292	such as racing and	992.7060
860		992.8341	we had racing squads everyone who wanted to race- wanted to run, we had to run all the way around the playground	997.6421
862		998.7970	and uh	999.4508
864		999.6166	they would pick 'em by one two three and four	1002.1345
866		1002.6709	first winner second winner third winner fourth winner and a fifth.	1005.9043
868		1006.2246	You know.	1006.8168
870		1007.0090	They would get a slice of watermelon,	1008.8085
872		1009.5702	the biggest [slice] you [know.]	1011.0669
873	DCA_int_01	1010.1095	[Oh.]	1010.3250
875		1010.6588	[Uh-huh.]	1011.3539
876	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1011.9154	Everybody wanted to get into this you know	1013.9370
878		1014.0604	everybody would b- be running around the block and	1016.5348
880		1016.8565	it was a lot of shoving you know, pulling and	1019.5571
882		1020.0660	Tripping and [whatnot <laugh>.]	1021.6747
883	DCA_int_01	1020.5142	[<laugh>]	1021.6229
884		1021.7467	[Anything] goes.	1022.5736
885	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1021.7985	[<laugh>]	1022.2752
887		1022.5551	Yeah, yeah anything goes.	1024.0499
888	DCA_int_01	1024.7618	/inaudible/	1025.9909
889	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1026.5118	And uh	1027.3682
891		1027.4856	let me see now,	1028.6145
893		1028.8168	work,	1029.5512
895		1032.2159	sixteen	1033.0286
897		1033.2084	you know til about the age of [sixteen] /???/	1035.2253
898	DCA_int_01	1034.1288	[Yeah.]	1034.6339
899		1035.2493	Fourteen to sixteen-	1036.5515
900	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1036.5930	From fourteen-	1037.1947
901	DCA_int_01	1037.0102	fourteen to eighteen.	1038.2427
902	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1038.2880	fourteen to eighteen?	1039.4213
904		1039.8034	Well I- I would say yeah work	1041.4114
906		1041.7512	work, try to find work	1043.0478
908		1043.1758	cutting grass anything to make some money.	1045.2395
909	DCA_int_01	1045.2888	Mm-hm.	1045.8446
910	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1046.4788	Just you know, make some money you can go to the swimming pool well the other times you had to pay to get in you know the movies	1051.4279
912		1051.7480	and movies	1052.5520
914		1052.8925	yes.	1053.4528
915	DCA_int_01	1054.6027	Yeah kids /??/ at that age.	1056.1548
916	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1056.4516	Mm-hm.	1057.1830
917	DCA_int_01	1059.3117	Have you ever had a teacher that hollered a lot?	1061.5967
918	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1062.2971	Screamed at the kids?	1063.2095
919	DCA_int_01	1063.2672	Yeah.	1063.5780
920	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1063.7459	Yeah yeah yeah.	1065.2026
922		1066.6593	As a matter of fact in all I think	1068.6155
924		1070.1569	from the third grade	1071.4921
926		1071.8056	no not the third grade,	1073.2121
928		1074.8763	but the fourth grade	1076.0450
930		1077.2804	to sixth grade	1078.3535
932		1079.6074	I had teachers who screamed a lot,	1081.4724
934		1082.6137	but after then uh	1083.8122
936		1084.4545	I don't know.	1085.0307
938		1086.8877	Either you learn- either you wanna learn or you just didn't stay in class, you know.	1090.4912
940		1091.3165	They would just eliminate you.	1092.6139
941	DCA_int_01	1092.7715	Mm-hm.	1093.1901
942	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1093.2509	Put you in SAC which is social adjustment class.	1096.7276
944		1097.3659	I never was in SAC.	1098.7170
945	DCA_int_01	1098.6054	Mm-hm.	1099.1148
946		1101.9724	What did the teachers holler at back in the earlier days?	1105.1739
948		1105.3820	Tell me what did they- what- what set them off <laugh>	1108.0712
950		1108.2873	What was /that/?	1109.0028
951	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1109.7975	We used to play little	1110.9280
953		1111.3663	silly games you know, everybody was informed	1114.1247
955		1114.5145	you know	1115.2227
957		1115.3549	except the teacher,	1116.4317
959		1117.8858	and we- you know she used to be writing things on the board you know	1121.3049
961		1122.0860	such as arithmetic and uh English and	1124.8922
963		1125.6319	some wise guy might throw a spit ball and hit her in the head you know something like that.	1130.1140
965		1130.8663	or put a banana peel or	1132.5019
967		1132.6055	needles in her chair you know thumbtacks?	1134.7078
968	misc	1134.9191	/inaudible/	1136.9959
969	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1136.5914	<laugh>	1137.3636
970		1138.8169	I remember this guy one time he put uh	1141.5206
972		1143.1309	was it a pin?	1144.2731
974		1145.1508	Or it was a tack,	1146.8429
976		1147.4986	he put a tack- he taped it to her chair	1149.4447
978		1149.7716	you know	1150.3478
980		1150.4254	and when you- that kind of tape in back then- in tho- at that time was uh sort of yellow	1155.2130
982		1155.8198	you know	1156.4424
983	DCA_int_01	1156.3722	Mm-hm.	1156.9164
984	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1157.1646	it just wasn't like the tape- it's not like the tape	1160.0724
986		1160.5261	that we have now,	1161.5667
988		1161.8229	transparent	1162.8620
990		1163.4423	other kinds it was real dark,	1164.9864
992		1165.5340	and he put tape over it	1167.0027
994		1167.2522	and she didn't see it.	1168.4447
996		1168.5088	you know, cause they had all- I think it was uh	1170.8903
998		1171.0300	brown chairs then.	1172.1301
999	DCA_int_01	1172.0385	Mm-hm.	1172.7337
1000	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1173.5832	And when she sat down	1175.1884
1001	DCA_int_01	1176.0884	<laugh>	1177.0099
1002	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1177.3664	yeah I think she almost lost it. I think she did lose her head for a few minutes until she caught herself and I think she	1182.2300
1004		1182.7317	and she excuse- sku- she excused the whole class that day	1185.5137
1006		1186.3013	she was, you know	1187.3098
1008		1188.5425	asked us all to go home	1189.6372
1009	DCA_int_01	1189.8551	Mm-hm.	1190.4138
1010	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1190.6236	cause when she sat down on it and she made such a loud noise and screamed	1194.7335
1012		1194.9136	everyone looked first	1196.0172
1014		1197.0560	and then when she took it out then everyone began to laugh cause everyone was informed before she even got in the class,	1202.4096
1015	DCA_int_01	1202.2664	Mm-hm.	1202.9066
1016	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1202.8535	you know.	1203.4267
1017		1204.1340	And she just couldn't take it and th-	1205.4947
1019		1205.6227	first she wanted to know	1206.6517
1021		1206.8427	who did it.	1207.4809
1023		1208.4632	It was quiet then.	1209.4804
1025		1210.3584	nobody knew,	1211.4135
1027		1211.6150	you know	1212.3073
1029		1212.4874	it's a lot of smiling faces but [nobody] knew.	1214.8245
1030	DCA_int_01	1214.0704	[Mm-hm.]	1214.4144
1032		1214.8139	Mm-hm.	1215.4021
1033	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1216.2466	And I-	1216.6636
1035		1216.7334	I think this set her off.	1217.8073
1036	DCA_int_01	1218.1675	Mm-hm.	1218.9518
1038		1219.7202	Did you ever get yelled at	1221.0524
1040		1221.1849	individually/??/	1223.1268
1041	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1224.6960	What do you mean [/??/]	1225.7249
1042	DCA_int_01	1225.2963	[Did] the teacher ever	1226.4248
1043	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1227.1131	[Yeah.]	1227.6814
1044	DCA_int_01	1227.5006	[/inaudible/]	1229.1674
1045	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1228.1856	[Yeah.]	1228.8980
1046		1229.1782	Yeah.	1229.7036
1048		1229.8265	Yeah I was a trouble maker back then.	1231.3312
1049	DCA_int_01	1231.3446	Really?	1232.0543
1050	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1232.1530	As a matter of fact I think I was uh	1234.3865
1052		1236.5284	I w- I think I was brought up at a few PTA meetings	1239.4614
1054		1239.5618	you know.	1240.2729
1055	DCA_int_01	1240.3355	<laugh>	1240.9089
1056	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1241.2641	Yeah.	1241.9651
1058		1242.2966	I was uh [well]	1243.8733
1059	DCA_int_01	1243.1770	[You hit] the big time <laugh>	1245.3527
1060		1247.4964	Was it fair do you think?	1248.8925
1062		1249.0011	Now that you look back on it [were the teachers] who have yelled at you-	1252.1093
1063	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1250.2524	[Fair?]	1250.9403
1065		1252.0052	Yeah,	1252.6133
1066		1252.6855	as a matter of fact if I were-	1254.3298
1068		1254.5078	if I were you know at the time	1256.3393
1070		1256.7009	if she would have put me in her place	1258.8473
1072		1259.0140	you know	1259.6424
1074		1260.3666	I think I would have beat the living [daylights out of myself.]	1262.8976
1075	DCA_int_01	1261.6660	[<laugh>]	1263.1420
1076	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1263.0667	you know	1263.4589
1077		1263.5549	cause we did some rotten things back then.	1265.3138
1078	DCA_int_01	1265.3691	Mm-hm.	1266.2007
1079	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1266.2416	I mean I was rotten too you know just a mean kid.	1269.2589
1081		1269.9072	Anything mean I thought of it,	1271.5428
1082	DCA_int_01	1271.7721	<laugh>	1272.5674
1083	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1272.4684	and would introduce it to the rest of the [class you know]	1274.9096
1084	DCA_int_01	1274.2348	[<laugh>]	1275.1607
1085	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1275.5954	to get volunteers to help	1277.1656
1087		1277.3776	or you know	1278.2180
1088	DCA_int_01	1278.1300	Mm-hm.	1278.8019
1089	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1278.8503	decide with me	1279.8807
1091		1279.9868	so I could go ahead and do it you know.	1281.5716
1092	DCA_int_01	1281.2834	Mm-hm.	1281.8915
1093	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1282.4840	And most of us guys I think it was about three or four you know of us	1285.8857
1095		1285.9657	we used to sit back and	1287.3357
1097		1288.3348	at that time at that stage	1290.1412
1099		1290.5894	we were uh w- what they call uh	1292.7822
1101		1295.2555	uh the bad guys you know	1296.6938
1102	DCA_int_01	1296.7387	Mm-hm.	1297.2274
1103	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1297.2024	we were the bad guys	1298.4038
1104		1299.6335	and we used to invent everything.	1301.5132
1106		1301.7521	We kept the class	1303.0739
1108		1304.2307	in laughter	1304.9836
1109	DCA_int_01	1305.6767	<laugh>	1305.9060
1110	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1305.9836	jolly mood you know	1307.2215
1111	DCA_int_01	1307.3547	Mm-hm.	1308.0455
1112	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1308.2353	and everything was nice	1309.5923
1114		1310.1287	and I liked that.	1311.1670
1116		1311.7169	But after I- I don't know after I graduated from grade school	1314.7823
1118		1315.1985	to McFarland	1316.2115
1120		1316.6632	things changed cause we had a assistant principal name uh	1320.1822
1122		1321.1588	/RD-NAME-1/, right?	1322.2347
1123	misc	1322.2519	Yes.	1322.5908
1124	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1322.6795	/RD-NAME-3/ and uh	1324.0107
1126		1324.6005	he just didn't go for this kind of thing you know.	1326.3986
1127	misc	1326.3933	I don't blame him.	1327.1496
1128	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1327.2257	[/RD-NAME-3/ had uh] a paddle	1329.4878
1129	misc	1327.4075	[/inaudible/]	1328.7624
1130	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1329.8694	which was uh yea long	1331.7157
1132		1333.1960	big holes in it.	1334.2206
1133	DCA_int_01	1334.2986	Uh-huh.	1334.9720
1134	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1336.2115	and I think it was old but it would	1338.1881
1136		1338.3485	Ugh.	1339.0669
1137	DCA_int_01	1339.5516	<laugh>	1339.8163
1139		1340.1253	He used it on the kids?	1341.1813
1140	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1341.1847	Yeah he used it on me once, once.	1343.3562
1142		1343.8889	Just	1344.3925
1144		1344.6928	once.	1345.2291
1146		1345.4692	That's all he- that's all I needed was one time.	1347.8035
1148		1348.1880	And I'll never forget that, I saw him down	1350.0195
1150		1350.1409	on Roosevelt the other week.	1351.5802
1151	DCA_int_01	1351.6490	Mm-hm.	1352.2679
1152	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1352.3813	He's older now but I remember you know	1354.4992
1153	DCA_int_01	1354.5508	Mm-hm.	1355.2025
1154	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1355.3700	/unintelligible/	1356.6018
1155	DCA_int_01	1356.6534	Mm-hm.	1357.4058
1157		1359.0225	Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had?	1361.2661
1158	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1361.4724	Sure.	1361.9778
1160		1362.9443	/RD-NAME-4/ in high school,	1364.9193
1162		1365.4523	/RD-NAME-2/ in grade school,	1367.2676
1164		1369.2292	I have to think about junior high school.	1371.4090
1165	DCA_int_01	1372.8906	What was it that made those two stand out?	1375.2764
1166	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1375.9720	Yes.	1376.4230
1167	DCA_int_01	1376.4444	/Something about them?/	1377.1642
1168	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1377.4287	/RD-NAME-3/ she was kind she- she had	1380.0174
1170		1380.9045	brilliant	1381.4549
1172		1381.5241	teaching techniques you know the way she taught	1383.6894
1173	DCA_int_01	1384.0613	Mm-hm.	1384.6185
1174	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1384.9737	As a matter of fact when I was in uh	1387.0345
1176		1387.2042	what was it, first grade Ma?	1388.5410
1177	misc	1389.3813	Mm-hm.	1389.7787
1178	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1389.7787	/RD-NAME-2/?	1390.4047
1179	misc	1391.3021	At that school?	1392.2267
1180	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1392.3401	I-	1392.8170
1181	misc	1392.9189	Musta been third.	1394.0198
1182	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1394.6456	No /RD-NAME-2/ was uh,	1395.8799
1184		1396.4220	well maybe [the second] grade.	1397.9791
1185	misc	1396.8302	[Third grade.]	1397.8432
1186	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1398.5326	I know who I had for third grade, /RD-NAME-2/	1400.6058
1188		1400.8001	for my third grade.	1401.6780
1189	misc	1401.6646	/inaudible/	1408.2948
1190	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1408.5345	Yeah I know that's when I was going through that change.	1410.7711
1192		1411.1401	But anyway it was /RD-NAME-2/ and she had brilliant teaching techniques and she would-	1414.6882
1194		1415.4293	I don't know she had the whole class	1417.3856
1196		1417.7344	wanting to do everything that she asked you know.	1420.3161
1197	DCA_int_01	1420.3867	Hm-hm.	1420.8085
1198	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1420.9460	Just something about her.	1421.9121
1200		1423.2255	And she [was-]	1423.8222
1201	DCA_int_01	1423.5242	[What] did she do that was /so good/?	1425.1975
1202	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1425.4278	I don't know she was a	1426.5487
1204		1427.0938	well I think- the way I think about now she was a	1429.5910
1206		1429.7821	real good looking chick you know she was	1431.6184
1208		1432.0860	real nice looking you know	1433.2669
1210		1433.5279	[and that helped.]	1434.5380
1211	DCA_int_01	1433.8961	[Was there a specific way she was teaching? <laugh>]	1435.8650
1212	misc	1434.8205	[/What's/ she gonna do about you but you were nothing but kids then.]	1437.3376
1213	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1436.8094	[Yeah I wa]- we weren't nothing but kids you know we just you know, yeah	1439.9093
1214	misc	1437.5381	[<laugh>]	1439.1850
1215	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1440.3392	but she was nice looking	1441.7464
1217		1442.3775	well she's old now so but she was a nice looking chick you know and	1446.0563
1219		1447.4945	just anything she said and- an- you know	1449.8817
1221		1449.9916	we would go along with it.	1451.5496
1223		1454.6324	Everyone else went along with it	1455.9801
1225		1456.7259	and we went along with everything she said	1458.5862
1227		1458.8475	you know.	1459.3495
1229		1459.8877	But she was kind.	1461.0319
1230	DCA_int_01	1461.0877	Mm-hm.	1461.7031
1231	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1462.2085	If you didn't have lunch money	1463.4772
1233		1464.3294	she'd buy you lunch.	1465.3034
1234	DCA_int_01	1465.4299	That's [/inaudible/]	1466.8391
1235	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1465.9742	[She'd] take you to lunch, right.	1467.5459
1236	misc	1468.0348	/inaudible/	1469.9714
1237	DCA_int_01	1469.9921	How about the one in high school, she [was /inaudible/]	1472.5372
1238	misc	1472.1748	/inaudible/	1472.4523
1239	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1472.5493	/RD-NAME-4/ uh she was oh she was nice too she was brilliant she wasn't [as pretty], you know.	1478.3600
1240	misc	1477.1255	[Yeah.]	1477.4498
1241		1478.5974	/inaudible/	1479.6109
1242	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1480.1099	She was [kind, it was the-]	1482.1570
1243	misc	1480.4079	[/inaudible/]	1483.0056
1244	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1483.9419	you know, the sort of thing that you-	1485.7748
1246		1486.6792	you look for in a- in a-	1487.7517
1248		1487.8718	in a teacher you know.	1489.1083
1250		1490.2569	She's a- she was a ideal teacher,	1491.8692
1251	DCA_int_01	1492.0806	Mm-hm.	1492.4642
1252	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1492.5621	especially in high school you know	1494.1251
1254		1494.5070	during those rough years.	1495.7622
1256		1497.3403	And I don't know it was the way she taught.	1499.2429
1258		1499.7975	The way she taught,	1500.6741
1260		1501.1101	a person wanted to learn, you know.	1503.4312
1262		1503.6793	A lot of these teachers you know they just teach and say well if you learn it, you learn it, if you don't, you don't	1508.6390
1264		1508.7591	but she was more concerned	1510.2307
1265	DCA_int_01	1510.2513	Mm-hm.	1510.6598
1266	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1510.6598	with you	1511.4809
1267		1511.8515	individually and- and- and learning you know.	1513.9858
1269		1515.0689	And you learn	1516.1139
1271		1516.5576	from her	1517.2513
1273		1517.5209	everyone in that class I don't think anyone pulled any F's	1520.3118
1275		1520.7064	a few pulled C's	1521.8633
1277		1522.0670	I think I pulled B, B, B, B in	1524.7620
1279		1525.4501	you know	1526.0538
1281		1526.6426	history	1527.3494
1282	DCA_int_01	1527.8699	/inaudible/	1529.9641
1283	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1528.7450	[history]	1529.3826
1285		1529.5882	yeah and government and you know these sort of things	1532.3254
1286		1532.4374	economics.	1533.2697
1287	DCA_int_01	1533.5339	Mm-hm.	1534.0275
1288	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1534.0542	She's a counselor now	1535.2486
1289	DCA_int_01	1535.4068	Oh yeah? Good for [her.]	1537.0956
1290	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1536.5193	[and the]- and uh	1537.3799
1291		1537.8239	my graduating class recommended her as	1540.3909
1293		1541.1296	counselor	1541.7524
1295		1542.0820	or for counselor	1542.9017
1296	misc	1543.0670	Really?	1543.5410
1297	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1543.6908	and she's now a counselor.	1545.0316
1298	misc	1545.7101	Well I think that- Well [I think /unintelligible/]	1547.2880
1299	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1546.7402	[Senior] counselor.	1548.1363
1300	DCA_int_01	1548.2771	Mm.	1548.8402
1301	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1549.0032	She's good.	1549.6331
1302	DCA_int_01	1550.1420	[/inaudible/]	1552.2724
1303	misc	1550.8635	[Three by, two by]	1552.2793
1304	DCA_int_01	1553.1515	Did you ever have one that you just couldn't stand?	1555.3722
1305	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1556.1130	One	1556.6016
1307		1556.9133	<laugh> that I just couldn't stand?	1558.2586
1308	DCA_int_01	1557.9778	<laugh> A lot of 'em, huh?	1559.7944
1309	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1559.9147	/RD-NAME-4/ in	1561.8115
1311		1562.0197	eighth grade I couldn't stand him,	1563.5589
1313		1564.8452	no one could stand that man.	1566.4285
1315		1567.0795	We were informed by the kids who had him the year- the previous year you know	1570.7150
1316	DCA_int_01	1570.8138	Mm-hm.	1571.4068
1317	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1571.4245	saying,	1572.1878
1319		1572.5368	you don't want that guy you know.	1573.9775
1320	DCA_int_01	1573.6281	Mm-hm.	1574.1054
1321		1575.5890	What did he do that was so /?/	1576.9629
1322	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1576.8888	He was just mean.	1577.9865
1323		1578.5744	He was downright mean	1580.1043
1324	DCA_int_01	1580.1749	Mm-hm.	1580.4678
1325	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1580.5051	you know.	1581.1404
1327		1582.3521	And we would do his homework	1583.7912
1329		1584.8628	and uh	1585.6392
1331		1585.7753	well we gave him a lot of trouble I go- I have to admit	1588.2687
1332	DCA_int_01	1588.3605	Mm-hm.	1588.9318
1333	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1589.7851	you know we gave him a lot of trouble well he was mean and he deserved it	1592.5251
1335		1593.2828	even now I'll say he deserved it.	1594.8358
1337		1600.2801	Even now I'll say he deserved it you know	1602.0661
1339		1603.4985	because	1604.3870
1341		1605.1709	he would put the- the lesson on the board and he would go through it you know we would all go through it, then he would stop	1610.3435
1343		1611.5895	and if someone you know would	1613.1743
1345		1614.8599	you know daze	1616.0670
1347		1616.9684	be in a daze or b- be day dreaming	1618.9290
1349		1619.0198	you /knows/ you know, as some kids do [they have problems] at home and everything	1622.7995
1350	DCA_int_01	1620.8323	[Yeah.]	1621.5327
1351	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1623.0681	which I understand now I didn't then you know I thought they was doing this- doing it for fun you know	1626.7763
1353		1627.0620	wanted some attention.	1628.0596
1355		1629.4151	He would get up	1630.3264
1357		1630.5971	and ask the person to come up in front of the class he would	1633.1423
1359		1633.1983	push 'em and shove 'em, do anything you know.	1635.3673
1361		1635.4474	pinch	1636.0076
1363		1636.2477	ooh he used to	1637.1083
1365		1637.6484	swell people's arms up	1639.1371
1367		1639.2411	you know with those red marks	1640.7754
1369		1640.8954	and his- his fingernails were real long	1642.6993
1371		1642.7843	and he would just	1643.3526
1373		1643.4726	pinch you.	1643.8993
1375		1644.9853	And every time you said, ow	1646.4103
1377		1647.8736	he'd pinch you that much harder and- and- and twice as many times as he started to pinch you.	1652.2613
1378	DCA_int_01	1652.4024	/inaudible/	1654.8506
1379	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1655.1316	Alright.	1655.9560
1381		1659.9899	He	1660.4809
1383		1660.5930	/??/ excuse me	1661.6655
1385		1662.9141	he would never	1663.6397
1387		1663.7384	approach the bigger boys.	1665.0813
1388	DCA_int_01	1665.7955	/inaudible/	1667.1035
1389	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1667.1308	Yeah I think that's wh- he would never approach 'em	1669.2632
1391		1669.3413	they could do anything.	1670.4950
1393		1671.4062	And he would take like some big boy would	1673.6673
1395		1674.1756	you know when I say big boy it was some big fellas you know	1676.8038
1396	DCA_int_01	1676.8088	Mm-hm.	1677.4212
1397	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1677.6172	almost in manhood.	1679.0786
1399		1679.9784	It was at- at that time you know at the education level of uh you know negroes were poor you know	1684.5805
1401		1684.7166	it was just	1685.3769
1403		1686.2053	on a	1686.7553
1405		1687.9101	poor capacity	1688.8580
1406	DCA_int_01	1688.9695	Mm-hm.	1689.5987
1407	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1689.6578	that's what it was.	1690.5460
1409		1691.9469	And uh	1692.9105
1411		1693.6437	he wouldn't say anything to them he would- he would	1695.5056
1413		1695.9407	they do something	1696.7447
1415		1696.8692	he get one of us for it you know.	1698.2972
1417		1698.3658	The smallest guy in the class he ask him	1699.9694
1419		1700.0975	why did you do that, knowing he didn't do it you know,	1702.1464
1421		1702.2425	come up here.	1702.8095
1423		1703.6431	and pinch him and everything and the bigger guys would laugh you know	1706.5151
1425		1707.3729	he would make the other guy cry, the smaller guy cry	1709.5963
1427		1709.7500	he was happy.	1710.4401
1429		1712.1087	Yeah.	1712.6336
1431		1713.1516	And the girls resented this thing you know.	1715.3056
1432	DCA_int_01	1716.4227	/inaudible/	1717.6693
1434		1720.0244	/inaudible/	1728.6445
1435	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1725.6031	[That's right that's right.]	1727.0616
1436	DCA_int_01	1729.5625	Was there a bunch of kids when you were that age	1733.0655
1438		1733.3777	when you were ten years old, twelve /around there/	1736.1149
1440		1736.3870	that you hung around with you know	1738.1561
1442		1738.3159	always the same bunch [/inaudible/ in your group?]	1741.9952
1443	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1739.5540	[Sure.]	1740.3479
1445		1740.6826	[Sure.]	1741.2471
1447		1741.6830	[Yeah] I think I had about	1743.1952
1448		1743.6839	three or four gangs	1745.0771
1449	DCA_int_01	1745.2607	Mm-hm.	1746.0290
1450	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1746.1171	yeah I was rough you know like I said I was a rough kid.	1749.6813
1451	DCA_int_01	1749.8203	Mm-hm.	1750.3253
1452	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1750.3344	I don't know what changed me you know	1751.9973
1454		1752.6136	cause a l- a lot of the kids I used to hang with	1754.6866
1456		1754.8386	still hanging on the corners you know.	1756.4974
1457	DCA_int_01	1756.4217	Mm-hm.	1756.9431
1458	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1757.3733	doing nothing,	1758.3297
1459	DCA_int_01	1758.3258	Mm-hm.	1758.9237
1460	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1758.6699	don't wanna work	1759.6974
1461		1760.1746	nothing.	1760.8698
1462	DCA_int_01	1763.1014	Was there one kid well maybe it was you, one kid that was the leader?	1766.9973
1464		1767.2863	/Anyone/ looked up to?	1768.3860
1465	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1768.4800	Me.	1768.9586
1466	DCA_int_01	1769.3858	/inaudible/	1769.9538
1467	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1770.3628	Yeah.	1770.5309
1468	DCA_int_01	1770.6010	What was it about you, you were the biggest?	1772.7010
1469	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1772.7329	No I wasn't that big then and th- that's- you know during junior high school years /um/	1776.6915
1471		1777.2629	fellas caught up with me	1778.3905
1473		1778.4634	some- most passed me.	1779.7785
1474	DCA_int_01	1779.9201	Mm-hm.	1780.7045
1475	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1781.8492	Well I w- just wouldn't let anyone	1783.8181
1477		1783.9142	I think I had a- it was a occasion	1785.5962
1479		1785.9951	when I was in Boy Scouts I was coming from a Boy Scout meeting	1788.7519
1480	DCA_int_01	1788.8291	Mm-hm.	1789.2427
1481	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1789.8178	and a larger boy	1790.9538
1483		1791.4218	used to take my money.	1792.5898
1484	DCA_int_01	1792.9105	Hm.	1793.4317
1485	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1794.1270	He knew	1794.7433
1487		1794.8315	No this w- this is the question he asked he said, hi how you doing, I said, hi how you doing, keep walking	1799.0895
1489		1799.2575	he'll follow me say, where do you live?	1800.8719
1491		1801.3866	And I thought he was a friend you know I thought he was a friendly type guy you know so I told him where I lived	1805.5386
1493		1806.6132	and he knew where I lived and it was fa- you know it w- it was a long ways	1810.0068
1495		1810.1909	away from where he was and where we were then.	1812.6285
1497		1813.8914	Then he would punch on me and take my money you know.	1816.1801
1499		1818.3575	I don't know I resented this.	1819.6499
1501		1820.4545	I re- I resented that and um	1822.2743
1503		1822.4396	I wouldn't let anyone take anything from me it was-	1824.8887
1505		1824.9368	there were occasions in school where	1826.8350
1507		1826.8924	guys used to try to take your lunch money or	1828.8733
1509		1828.9813	fractions of your lunch money	1830.3067
1511		1831.0143	you know	1831.4609
1513		1832.0228	and I would just	1832.6424
1515		1833.5756	put everything else aside and just go ahead and fight 'em	1835.6825
1517		1835.9607	you know.	1836.4167
1519		1837.4734	But nine times out of ten I won.	1839.0160
1520	DCA_int_01	1839.0981	Mm-hm.	1839.6204
1521	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1839.6744	Some big guys, you know.	1840.8610
1523		1842.2813	The ones I didn't beat they d-	1843.7507
1525		1843.8233	you know	1844.3580
1527		1844.6797	they wouldn't fight me no more we were friends	1846.6806
1529		1846.8408	and I just got around.	1848.5231
1531		1850.3304	I started getting you know	1851.6359
1532	DCA_int_01	1851.7550	Mm-hm.	1852.2403
1533	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1852.3073	being looked up to and uh	1854.0333
1535		1854.6124	Well I- I liked it at the time	1856.2073
1536	DCA_int_01	1856.3599	Mm-hm.	1856.8630
1537	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1857.2351	superiority I guess.	1858.6139
1538	DCA_int_01	1859.4201	/inaudible/	1860.3523
1539	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1860.6568	Yeah yeah I liked it you know	1862.5924
1541		1862.6804	/RD-NAME-4/	1863.6654
1543		1863.8890	/RD-NAME-4	1865.2559
1545		1866.9624	/RD-NAME-3/, /RD-NAME-4/	1869.1741
1547		1869.2755	his brother	1870.1970
1549		1870.5321	/RD-NAME-3/	1871.5479
1551		1871.6366	oh	1872.0445
1553		1872.3945	I could name a million of 'em	1873.6102
1554	DCA_int_01	1873.6102	<laugh>	1874.1510
1555	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1874.4354	you know.	1875.1234
1556	DCA_int_01	1875.1638	Were they mostly the same age as you?	1877.0207
1558		1877.5409	Were they mostly the same age as you were?	1879.4712
1559	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1879.5930	Yeah uh well I think I was	1881.2015
1561		1881.3855	yeah mostly	1882.2660
1563		1882.5221	either my age or older.	1883.5374
1564	DCA_int_01	1883.7466	Mm-hm.	1884.4430
1565	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1888.6449	Believe me I- I wasn't the oldest	1890.2245
1567		1890.8942	But I uh I used to tell them that [you know.]	1892.9308
1568	DCA_int_01	1892.5206	[<laugh>]	1893.6927
1569	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1894.2157	but they didn't know	1895.0966
1571		1895.3202	cause uh	1896.0221
1572	DCA_int_01	1897.1451	/inaudible/	1898.3902
1573	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1898.5245	Yeah that's right it helps you /??/ and I used to always be swinging I used to give uh	1902.4255
1575		1903.0466	you know we had these clubs you know	1904.7393
1577		1905.1544	gangs we used to go	1906.2588
1579		1906.3870	uptown and fight	1907.5568
1581		1908.6680	I don't know why	1909.5004
1583		1909.5644	you know just one of those things you know.	1911.2492
1584	DCA_int_01	1911.2400	Mm-hm.	1911.6400
1585	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1911.7127	You wanted to fight it was a time when you had to go to a party and crash it.	1915.0785
1586	DCA_int_01	1915.1378	Mm-hm.	1915.7561
1587	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1916.3064	You had to go to a party every week and crash it.	1919.2916
1589		1919.6307	If you didn't,	1920.4311
1591		1921.2635	she didn't know about it	1922.1076
1593		1922.6641	if you didn't then you weren't	1924.1589
1595		1924.3689	well in the in-crowd [you know.]	1926.1278
1596	DCA_int_01	1925.4470	[Mm-hm.]	1926.3148
1597	misc	1927.3752	Well, it's a good thing I didn't know about it	1928.7975
1598	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1929.6249	We used to go all uptown but I knew I- I had to be home at a certain time	1933.7708
1600		1933.8508	so I would	1934.5474
1602		1934.8353	use a phony excuse every time to get away from 'em you know	1937.9975
1604		1938.2105	but they would go for it	1939.3070
1606		1939.3790	cause I used to always do it in such a	1940.9914
1608		1941.2839	smooth [way and they used to call me] cool all the time you know and they some of 'em- most of 'em still do you know.	1946.2958
1609	DCA_int_01	1941.7561	[<laugh>]	1942.7851
1610		1946.2958	Mm-hm.	1946.7003
1611	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1947.2280	But I was cool with my stuff.	1948.6134
1612	DCA_int_01	1948.7435	Mm-hm what kind of excuse did you give?	1950.7017
1613	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1950.7517	I say man I say listen I say I gotta leave I say you know and they ain't gotta go with me I say I'm going by myself I gotta	1956.2657
1615		1957.6277	go somewhere [<laugh>]	1959.2560
1616	DCA_int_01	1958.5937	[<laugh>]	1959.5566
1617	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1959.5781	you know	1960.1004
1619		1961.0589	they say okay uh	1962.0913
1621		1962.1953	yeah okay I'll see you	1963.3915
1623		1963.5074	see you some other time I say okay I get out and I walk all cool you know I walk cool as I can and	1968.2144
1625		1968.3139	as long as they didn't see me you know and then	1969.8400
1626	DCA_int_01	1969.8400	Mm-hm.	1970.1195
1627	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1970.2233	when I got to a point	1971.0882
1629		1971.4559	you know where they didn't-	1973.0469
1631		1973.1766	where they didn't see me	1974.1094
1633		1975.3485	I'd make it home.	1976.1983
1635		1977.0380	I don't care where I was	1977.9308
1637		1978.0661	I'd make it home.	1978.7079
1638	DCA_int_01	1978.7821	Mm-hm.	1979.1774
1639	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1979.3503	Cause I knew at a certain time that door would lock	1981.4393
1640	DCA_int_01	1981.6315	<laugh>	1982.7269
1641	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1983.1282	and no one would let you in, [you know.]	1985.8173
1642	DCA_int_01	1984.9317	[Mm-hm.]	1985.8441
1643	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1987.5010	and if- even if someone let you in	1989.4117
1645		1989.5581	if they let you in too late	1991.0006
1647		1991.8391	then you w- you would wish	1993.4500
1649		1993.5760	that you wouldn't have	1994.5468
1651		1994.9846	come here you know.	1996.1231
1652	DCA_int_01	1996.1772	Mm-hm.	1996.9855
1653	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	1997.9220	[So uh]	1998.9040
1654	DCA_int_01	1997.9275	[/inaudible/]	2000.1726
1655	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2000.5127	yeah,	2001.1482
1656	misc	2002.0227	/unintelligible/	2003.1688
1657	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2003.2633	I had my share	2004.8944
1659		2004.9921	I had my share of beatings, whippings whatever you wanna call 'em.	2007.8789
1661		2007.9349	I had my share of 'em cause I was a	2009.7722
1663		2010.4241	drastic kid I used to always be into something.	2012.6546
1665		2012.7292	even at school.	2013.6411
1666	DCA_int_01	2013.7936	Mm-hm.	2014.6311
1668		2014.7649	/inaudible/ uh group like when you were doing all this stuff?	2018.3669
1670		2018.4547	What would a new kid	2019.6953
1672		2020.1035	/moved into/ the neighborhood or something like that wanted to get into [your gang?]	2023.3009
1673	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2022.6647	[Oh that was] lovely w- w- we would have to uh	2025.6501
1674		2025.7409	initiate this kid you know	2027.4432
1676		2027.9954	he would have to become one of us or he's	2030.1490
1678		2030.2604	excluded from the rest of us you know.	2031.9343
1679	DCA_int_01	2031.9283	Hm.	2032.2255
1680	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2032.6135	He was all	2033.4262
1682		2033.5660	you have to pay	2034.2943
1684		2034.4223	protection fees and	2036.0409
1686		2036.6714	what have you	2037.4051
1687	DCA_int_01	2037.4477	Mm-hm.	2037.8449
1688	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2038.6833	you know.	2039.1583
1689	DCA_int_01	2039.2115	How would he get in, h- how could he?	2040.7035
1690	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2040.8763	Well he could get in and we would-	2042.5891
1692		2042.9012	would	2043.2916
1694		2043.4615	punch him in the chest or	2045.1086
1696		2045.7105	<laugh>	2047.5273
1698		2047.5834	First we would use all this propaganda to get him to wanna join you know tell him what we did you know	2053.5422
1700		2053.7838	you know	2054.3976
1702		2055.1924	give him the low down you know we would give parties you know	2058.0221
1704		2058.7836	certain times you know we may	2060.4264
1706		2060.5524	have to fight these guys	2062.3459
1708		2062.8175	you know	2063.3120
1710		2064.1516	and like he might be called you know any time we come around we give you the signal you know you have to go.	2068.9712
1711	DCA_int_01	2069.0259	Mm-hm.	2069.6008
1712	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2069.6902	You know.	2070.2228
1714		2070.3945	If you don't then we're gonna get you.	2071.8062
1715	DCA_int_01	2071.9928	Hm.	2072.4905
1716	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2073.1133	And they th- you know we got over to 'em	2075.3602
1717	DCA_int_01	2075.4664	Mm-hm.	2076.2065
1718	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2076.9871	and uh we would- I would initiate because I was	2080.1508
1720		2080.2526	If I wasn't president	2081.6632
1722		2081.9494	which I was	2082.8593
1724		2082.9714	in most of 'em I was	2084.2789
1726		2084.9883	up there you know	2086.0528
1728		2086.1648	if I wasn't vice president	2087.4130
1730		2087.7283	then I was a war counselor you know	2089.4331
1731	DCA_int_01	2089.4331	Mm-hm.	2090.0731
1732	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2090.6816	something like that.	2091.5451
1734		2092.0585	Uh	2092.6869
1736		2092.8669	we all followed a pattern you know.	2094.5184
1737	DCA_int_01	2094.5023	Mm-hm.	2095.0592
1738		2096.1671	Did you have names for	2097.5443
1740		2098.0480	your	2098.6589
1742		2098.9444	clubs or?	2099.5257
1743	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2099.6268	Junior Twilights	2100.9074
1745		2101.0894	Dragons um,	2102.5969
1747		2102.9651	Baby Nuggets	2104.2147
1749		2105.1501	Baby /Lions/	2106.2748
1750	DCA_int_01	2106.6388	Mm-hm	2107.3705
1751	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2110.2884	Did I said Roman Nuggets didn't I?	2111.7577
1752	DCA_int_01	2112.2416	Junior Nuggets.	2113.2371
1753	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2113.5382	No I said Junior Twilight.	2114.9548
1754	DCA_int_01	2114.9548	Oh yeah /inaudible/	2116.7021
1755	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2116.6544	Roman Nuggets,	2117.9257
1756		2118.3192	I w- I went to live with my father for a year or so	2121.1666
1758		2121.6648	and it was then The Number Two Boys Club we used to box	2124.6822
1759	DCA_int_01	2124.5701	Mm-hm.	2125.1608
1760	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2125.2424	you had to be rough down there	2126.8838
1761	DCA_int_01	2126.8354	Mm-hm.	2127.5929
1762	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2127.8679	to get-	2128.3758
1764		2128.4281	to get-	2128.8649
1766		2129.0204	you know	2129.5166
1768		2129.5806	to get over	2130.3383
1770		2130.5731	you had to be rough you know.	2131.7820
1771	DCA_int_01	2132.1658	Mm-hm.	2132.8450
1772	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2133.0863	Where the O- was it the O Street no it K Street Market wasn't it Ma?	2136.3197
1774		2136.9602	K Street Market	2137.8019
1776		2137.9768	you know where that used to be?	2139.0573
1778		2139.6495	On K Street	2140.3379
1780		2140.4179	it was the big market where the museum is now	2142.4627
1782		2142.7870	the Wax Museum.	2143.5719
1783	DCA_int_01	2143.3520	I have only been here a few months	2144.3505
1784		2144.8654	Oh I know where that Wax Museum [is /inaudible/]	2147.0988
1785	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2146.1968	[/unintelligible/]	2147.0646
1786		2147.1973	big K Street Market in it	2148.9968
1788		2149.4383	and on Friday when kids were out of school they were down there	2152.6502
1790		2153.2349	We was stealing apples,	2154.7636
1792		2154.8356	chicken and	2155.9603
1794		2157.0126	what have you, you know.	2158.4073
1796		2160.2569	Sometimes we'd	2161.5689
1798		2161.8577	steal apples and	2163.0868
1800		2163.5304	they had wine and stuff up there w- I would never take any of it.	2166.9480
1801	misc	2166.9320	What was you doing in there?	2168.7649
1802	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2168.9329	I was living down there then Ma.	2170.2295
1803	misc	2169.9682	Oh.	2170.5488
1804	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2171.0775	I was living with Daddy then.	2172.0046
1805	DCA_int_01	2173.5246	Was there a certain area	2175.1485
1807		2175.7071	that you-	2176.4023
1809		2176.5155	which your group was responsible for?	2178.6561
1811		2179.0687	[/inaudible/] I know in Chicago, I- I come from Chicago, I know that's what it is	2184.7433
1812	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2179.3168	[Yeah.]	2180.2471
1813	DCA_int_01	2185.1115	all over the West side and all over the South side.	2187.5597
1814	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2187.6196	Well there- there was a school down there as I recall it was Walker Thomas	2191.4005
1816		2192.9901	and that was the boundary	2194.5108
1818		2194.5748	for us and we could go from uh	2196.9545
1820		2198.5526	from Ninth	2199.3637
1822		2201.5783	to Walker Thomas which is around First	2204.2282
1824		2205.9671	up to um	2207.1880
1826		2207.7679	what was it	2208.4442
1828		2209.2726	it was a large boundary do you know what Number Two Boys Club is?	2212.1679
1829	DCA_int_01	2214.4699	It doesn't matter exactly I just wanted to know if that's how you worked /?/	2218.0066
1830	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2218.2956	And uh	2218.9652
1832		2219.0373	well different members we used to wear jackets	2221.3156
1834		2221.7825	you know we had to pay dues.	2223.2280
1835	DCA_int_01	2223.8984	You guys were really organized.	2225.2138
1836	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2225.2591	Yeah	2225.9145
1838		2226.2355	really organized I mean these guys were fabulous you know they wanted to do this thing and we did it right.	2230.4806
1839	DCA_int_01	2230.4723	Mm-hm.	2231.2685
1840	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2231.9450	And after school or certain days you know we would hear about	2234.8103
1842		2234.8984	these guys coming up to the playground	2237.0229
1844		2238.0278	you know	2238.6707
1846		2238.9377	let's see who was it it was the Mau-Maus,	2241.2536
1848		2241.4509	uh	2242.1925
1850		2242.9396	Tag Alongs,	2244.3883
1852		2244.7404	uh	2245.3848
1854		2245.8690	few other gangs uh	2247.6482
1856		2247.9687	forget.	2248.6798
1858		2250.1876	Anyway they had a baby Mau Mau uh	2252.4816
1860		2253.0031	junior Mau Mau and a senior Mau Mau	2255.7096
1862		2255.9405	well at that time we- yeah we were the babies you know.	2258.8764
1863	DCA_int_01	2256.2207	/inaudible/	2257.2990
1864	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2259.9186	And the bigger guys would always put us up you know tell us when you know	2263.2870
1866		2263.5363	go on over to the playground	2264.9991
1868		2265.7213	and they'd give us stuff to go over there with.	2267.4289
1869	DCA_int_01	2267.8264	Mm-hm.	2268.4548
1870	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2269.5712	I think one guy got uh hurt real bad over there and that's when it was about time for me to move out the area	2274.4111
1872		2274.5523	you know.	2275.0452
1873	DCA_int_01	2275.0630	Mm-hm.	2275.6072
1874	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2278.2820	We used to throw bricks, bottles, you know first you used to meet,	2281.2687
1876		2282.9057	and we used to get some smart talk you know, exchange it	2285.9896
1878		2286.5688	from one gang to the other	2287.6018
1879	DCA_int_01	2287.6018	Mm-hm.	2288.1248
1880	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2289.3221	and if	2289.8823
1882		2289.9919	who- whoever was outnumbered	2291.5301
1884		2292.2810	which on occasions you know	2293.8686
1886		2294.2259	we always outnumbered	2295.5747
1888		2296.0987	most gangs you know.	2297.3932
1889	DCA_int_01	2297.4834	Mm-hm.	2298.1317
1890	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2298.9721	Well the one who was outnumbered	2300.8369
1892		2302.2112	would	2302.6234
1894		2302.8675	retreat	2303.6062
1896		2303.7159	you know we'll fight	2304.5794
1898		2304.6843	but retreat you know	2305.9426
1900		2306.0130	cause they knew they were terribly outnumbered you know they-	2308.3103
1902		2308.3901	w- wasn't much they could do you know but	2310.1185
1904		2310.3590	re-retreat.	2311.2708
1906		2311.6396	In the process of retreating we would throw bottles, bricks, anything if we catch a couple of 'em you know we	2316.6290
1908		2318.5043	beat 'em	2319.0238
1909	DCA_int_01	2319.1528	Mm-hm.	2319.6775
1910	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2319.7291	you know	2320.3386
1912		2320.4734	just	2320.8217
1914		2320.9536	beat 'em.	2321.4282
1915	DCA_int_01	2321.5619	Mm-hm.	2321.9715
1916	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2321.9299	I used to feel sorry for them guys sometime you know even though I was the leader you know	2325.7126
1917		2325.8919	I couldn't say anything.	2327.0620
1918	DCA_int_01	2327.2445	Mm-hm.	2327.7844
1919	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2327.8448	I w- sometime I wouldn't even punch on 'em you know	2329.9738
1921		2330.1314	I would give my smart	2331.5260
1923		2331.6761	sermon you know my lecture you know	2333.6571
1925		2334.2053	turn around look and	2335.2667
1927		2335.5019	hit one	2336.4723
1929		2336.9826	you know	2337.4789
1931		2337.5508	you would- you wouldn't give any warning.	2338.9527
1932	DCA_int_01	2339.3885	Mm-hm.	2339.8342
1933	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2340.5204	you w- you hit me first I'm'a hit you first you know I wouldn't say you hit me first	2344.2168
1935		2344.9625	as a matter of fact we didn't say too much I just	2347.0810
1937		2347.1370	exchanged some words turn around look and see if everybody was ready	2349.7553
1939		2350.4585	swing.	2351.2788
1940	DCA_int_01	2351.3470	Mm-hm.	2352.0421
1941	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2352.1473	And that started it.	2352.9798
1942	DCA_int_01	2353.0037	And that was it.	2353.6839
1943	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2353.6920	After that started then you know I could just bag back <laugh> [you know]	2356.6055
1944	DCA_int_01	2356.2133	[<laugh>]	2357.0739
1945	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2356.8456	and watch it.	2357.6155
1946	DCA_int_01	2357.5980	Mm-hm.	2358.3410
1947		2358.5024	What was your /inaudible/	2360.5864
1948	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2360.7061	Well it was uh	2362.2676
1949	DCA_int_01	2362.3629	Or is that a secret?	2363.6232
1950	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2363.6809	uh	2364.4448
1952		2364.5853	it was something like uh let's see	2367.0931
1954		2367.4855	well what do you- what do y'all wanna do man?	2369.3619
1956		2369.4944	You know	2370.2665
1958		2370.4548	guy say, what do you wanna do?	2372.0760
1960		2372.7839	I turn around look at everybody you know	2374.7208
1962		2375.7641	and then as I'm swinging I say, this is what I wanna do, and by that time I /??/ hit him you know.	2380.3834
1963	DCA_int_01	2380.5135	Mm-hm.	2381.0794
1964	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2381.8339	Everybody start fighting.	2383.4520
1965	DCA_int_01	2386.7081	Are these all black kids /??/	2388.5577
1966	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2388.6690	Mostly	2389.4991
1968		2389.6855	mostly.	2390.5461
1969	DCA_int_01	2391.4863	Were there any Caucasians around?	2393.2586
1970	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2393.2554	Sure sure, Number Two had a few Caucasians in it, beca- because they have Caucasian families down there- everybody down there	2400.0785
1971		2400.3281	I don't- regardless at that time	2402.0594
1973		2402.8012	I don't know w- it w- wasn't- it w- it was very few times when uh	2406.5875
1975		2407.6651	one kid would say to another kid you know,	2410.0876
1977		2411.8830	he's white man	2413.1359
1979		2413.2278	you know we wanna eliminate him you know	2415.5628
1981		2416.3012	like we don't even want him around here you know	2418.6798
1983		2418.9104	something like this	2419.9867
1985		2420.0789	wasn't like that.	2420.9673
1987		2421.5516	Cause he was poor	2422.6881
1989		2422.7470	and I was poor	2423.7049
1991		2424.1877	you know	2424.8190
1993		2424.9720	he had fun and we had fun, he was one of us you know he was on the our side you know.	2429.1980
1995		2429.2700	If he wanted to be initiated he had to go through the same process and with maybe a little teeny bit more	2433.5255
1997		2433.6055	with some of the same process	2435.1171
1998	DCA_int_01	2435.1884	Mm-hm.	2435.5094
1999	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2435.5664	you know.	2436.1155
2001		2436.9459	It was the same ten licks in the chest	2439.2430
2003		2439.3870	you know if you had to stand there by yourself	2441.1895
2005		2441.3880	you had to want to do this thing you know.	2443.1732
2007		2443.6398	Some guys just had to carry uh	2445.5028
2009		2445.9369	who was it	2446.6142
2011		2447.0254	I forget the guy's name we used to have to carry him around after school	2449.9891
2012	DCA_int_01	2450.0428	Mm-hm.	2450.7023
2013	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2451.6223	on your back you know	2452.7325
2015		2453.6233	every- anywhere you wanna go like a- a free taxi cab service you know.	2457.1135
2017		2458.5803	Say	2459.0432
2019		2459.0765	take me home, you just grab his books	2461.0603
2021		2461.1844	and he- he grab your books and	2462.7822
2023		2464.1538	he jumps on your back and you take him home.	2466.2697
2025		2466.3789	If you didn't make it if you wanted to quit,	2468.0566
2027		2469.3883	it was alright you know	2470.5088
2029		2470.5969	you were just eliminated.	2471.8565
2031		2472.0455	but most guys /went through it/	2474.3530
2033		2474.8229	It's a good thing to wear those	2476.0197
2035		2476.0875	beautiful jackets in school you know and the girls just	2478.6983
2037		2478.9048	love that stuff.	2479.8077
2038	DCA_int_01	2479.8077	Yeah	2480.0930
2039	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2480.1934	Yeah.	2480.9901
2040	DCA_int_01	2483.0187	You know	2483.8793
2042		2484.4650	one	2485.1820
2044		2485.5215	uh one kid uh /inaudible/	2488.9726
2046		2489.4913	we were interviewing and used the term walkman, do you know what that means?	2492.3507
2047	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2492.4687	Yeah that's your buddy.	2493.8358
2048	DCA_int_01	2493.8029	Your buddy?	2494.5121
2049	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2494.6272	That's your buddy that's your partner.	2495.9682
2050	DCA_int_01	2496.1049	/That's right/	2497.0498
2051	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2497.1404	Yeah that's your walkman	2498.4335
2053		2498.4930	that's a old term now, now it's your boy	2500.7671
2055		2500.9582	yeah.	2501.6589
2057		2502.9193	So at a time it was my walkman now it's you know	2505.2355
2059		2505.8167	have you see- well have you seen my walkman?	2507.8252
2061		2508.1057	Same term	2509.0341
2063		2509.1702	term has changed to	2510.5939
2065		2510.7549	where's my boy	2511.6954
2067		2511.7554	you know	2512.3926
2069		2512.5318	my boy so and so	2513.9671
2071		2514.1727	my boy Edward or Jerry [or]	2516.2727
2072	DCA_int_01	2515.7735	[Mm-hm.]	2516.4498
2073	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2516.8940	my man so and so, my man so and so you know	2520.2556
2075		2520.5437	slang just	2521.5218
2077		2521.7923	[changes.]	2522.5832
2078	DCA_int_01	2521.8563	[/inaudible/]	2523.5340
2079		2525.5595	Is there a group now that you associate with	2528.2458
2081		2528.8331	maybe not to do the same things, but	2530.9488
2083		2531.3410	a group of people you're around a lot?	2533.4640
2084	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2533.5367	No not-	2535.0715
2086		2535.5058	I mess with girls most of the time you know uh	2538.3256
2088		2540.0279	Well	2540.7927
2090		2541.0924	mm- I think most of us are you know at-	2543.4724
2092		2543.7816	to a certain point in our lives man where we just say well	2547.1543
2094		2547.6396	I'm not getting anywhere by standing on this corner	2550.3026
2096		2551.0252	punching people in the nose you know getting punched	2553.8192
2098		2553.8585	you know	2554.5261
2100		2556.1184	there's gonna be some times when uh I'm- I'm getting older you know there's gonna be some times when I'm gonna wanna	2560.6346
2102		2563.3725	have somebody I can really talk to and then t- and it- you know and you reach a certain point you just can't talk to another fella like you can a girl you know.	2569.3506
2103	DCA_int_01	2569.3541	Mm-hm.	2570.1891
2104	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2570.7229	You can't get the- the assurance that uh	2572.9781
2106		2573.5962	he really wants to listen [you know or he's] really involved or concerned.	2577.6974
2107	DCA_int_01	2575.0289	[Mm-hm.]	2575.7812
2108	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2579.7911	Well with a girl I think you can tell.	2581.5558
2110		2582.6325	Girls.	2583.4568
2111	DCA_int_01	2586.2824	/inaudible/	2587.6800
2113		2590.0014	Well what do you wanna do when uh when you finish school, do you know?	2593.9322
2114	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2593.9472	Yes I-	2595.0494
2116		2596.1938	I- I dig math you know	2597.9600
2117	DCA_int_01	2598.1101	Really?	2598.5023
2118	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2598.5629	yeah I dig math uh	2600.2357
2120		2601.7326	I like math as complicated	2603.4944
2122		2603.5735	as it is	2604.5243
2124		2604.7420	it's	2605.2499
2126		2605.4383	interesting to me you know	2606.9360
2128		2607.1271	what you can do with numbers	2608.5629
2130		2609.1308	and words mind you cause I have to write- write a theme	2612.1306
2132		2612.3083	a essay	2613.0767
2134		2613.1247	tonight.	2613.7865
2136		2615.0216	Oh great.	2616.1849
2138		2616.4490	This is a um	2618.0933
2140		2618.3779	induction	2619.4722
2142		2620.9951	style essay.	2622.3535
2143	DCA_int_01	2623.8605	Are you in school now?	2624.7879
2144	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2624.8076	Yes I'm at /RD-SCHOOL-7/ part-time and I'm working for the /RD-WORK-7/.	2629.4046
2145	DCA_int_01	2629.3886	Mm-hm that's where I /called/	2630.6304
2146	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2630.7412	Yeah.	2631.3478
2147	DCA_int_01	2632.9450	So what do you do there?	2634.2236
2148	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2634.4017	Well I work with the machines such as duplicating machines uh	2639.0198
2150		2639.0920	Xerox 2400	2640.8200
2152		2641.3970	Multilith	2642.3926
2154		2643.0618	uh	2644.1909
2156		2646.7117	mimeograph machines and then we have a offset printing press	2650.4990
2158		2651.1218	a new one just came in and he- and the representative is in the process of uh	2655.8804
2160		2656.1243	showing us how to	2657.1692
2162		2657.2448	operate 'em.	2657.9781
2163	DCA_int_01	2657.9812	Mm-hm.	2658.5724
2165		2660.8065	What's the title of your job?	2662.3825
2166	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2662.7354	Well my title they gave me a off title which is a mail clerk	2665.9131
2168		2665.9691	and I don't	2666.7424
2169	DCA_int_01	2666.6894	/inaudible/ <laugh>	2667.9012
2170	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2667.2897	/I mean/ I don't	2668.3012
2171		2668.3382	touch mail.	2669.0711
2172	DCA_int_01	2670.4913	/inaudible/ responsible for the Xerox machine or the other machines	2678.6221
2174		2679.2393	/inaudible/	2681.3582
2175	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2681.3582	Yeah and- an- an- and deliveries also	2683.8479
2176		2684.4286	plus loading and un- no not loading but unloading trucks	2687.6765
2178		2687.7796	yeah loading and unloading you know its just	2690.0207
2180		2691.9015	I do all different types of menial task.	2694.4035
2181	DCA_int_01	2695.4501	What are you gonna do when you finish there?	2698.0319
2182	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2698.3074	Well I hope to major in uh	2700.1160
2184		2701.1408	computer science	2702.4904
2185	DCA_int_01	2702.4934	Mm-hm.	2703.2669
2186	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2704.2222	you know but I don't wanna start off as an operator	2706.9055
2188		2707.1518	key punch operator or um	2709.3664
2190		2711.2336	what's his name the operator	2713.9141
2192		2714.0109	/unintelligible/	2715.6088
2194		2722.5538	let me see operator	2724.1821
2196		2726.1290	that's your first step is operator you know key punch operator	2729.6547
2198		2730.4029	second step is uh	2732.2384
2200		2733.2843	well anyway I forget I'll get back to it I'll remember it.	2735.5574
2202		2735.6322	And then	2736.3087
2204		2736.8007	the high step is uh	2738.2694
2206		2738.3455	well one of the high steps is uh systems	2740.9809
2208		2741.8779	a- analyst	2742.8038
2210		2743.0146	you know	2743.5631
2212		2744.1191	you analyze a thing you know you go into Safeways and	2747.4685
2214		2747.5607	Safeway may call you in	2749.3167
2216		2749.6818	to- to analyze it's	2751.2215
2218		2751.5146	products you know	2752.6671
2220		2752.8192	you put everything in a	2754.2313
2222		2754.7349	different category you know you draw your little plans you know and then you give it to the	2759.1104
2224		2760.0734	programmer	2761.0225
2226		2762.3784	you know	2762.9909
2228		2763.0908	and the programmer a- arranges his thing then he gives it to the- he feeds it to the key punch operator.	2767.8944
2230		2768.3173	So it's a step by step process.	2770.3638
2232		2770.6519	I don't wanna start at the ground floor and work my way up.	2773.4876
2234		2774.8619	Takes too long.	2775.7856
2235	DCA_int_01	2775.8063	Mm-hm.	2776.1905
2236	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2776.1905	I'd rather try for the top	2777.7607
2237		2778.0954	and	2778.6381
2239		2778.8372	possibly if I can get to the top in a year you know when I get out I start	2782.5429
2241		2782.6710	at that level	2783.5386
2243		2783.9356	move myself up to the top	2785.2765
2245		2785.3285	it wouldn't take as long.	2786.5130
2246	DCA_int_01	2786.6731	Mm-hm.	2787.5775
2248		2788.0577	Well do you want, do you think you could	2790.2827
2250		2790.7229	start as what, a kind of systems analyst or would you start at what level?	2794.7385
2251	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2794.7649	Well if I uh major in it- in it you know	2797.3584
2253		2798.9589	if by any chance I receive a degree	2801.3041
2255		2801.4188	then I would be qualified	2802.9555
2257		2803.0596	for a systems analyst.	2804.6887
2258	DCA_int_01	2807.3417	Were you accepted /inaudible/	2811.2325
2259	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2809.2626	Yeah.	2809.9780
2260	DCA_int_01	2812.2694	You're lucky.	2813.1953
2262		2813.8541	I guess they had to turn down quite a few.	2815.6559
2263	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2815.6709	Yeah they had to turn down quite a few	2817.4429
2265		2818.8592	but	2819.3585
2267		2821.4604	no no no wait a minute let me say this	2823.6257
2269		2824.9956	no did you read the article in the Post?	2827.0085
2270	DCA_int_01	2827.2126	/inaudible/	2828.0715
2271	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2828.0610	Did you see the pictures?	2829.0856
2272	DCA_int_01	2829.4136	I think so.	2830.2228
2273	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2830.2862	My picture	2831.0145
2275		2831.0865	was included among the other two.	2832.5881
2276	DCA_int_01	2832.5228	Oh	2832.7308
2277		2834.2560	wait a minute, yeah.	2835.7841
2278	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2835.7075	Mm-hm.	2836.2082
2279	DCA_int_01	2836.1957	Now I remember.	2837.3364
2280		2837.4843	/inaudible/ yeah that's right.	2839.4130
2281	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2839.7093	And this was a	2840.8210
2283		2841.2701	publicity stunt	2842.5472
2285		2842.6307	you know	2843.2684
2286	DCA_int_01	2843.4407	Mm-hm.	2844.0053
2287	DCA_se2_ag1_m_05	2844.2397	because Congress was considering uh	2846.8969
2289		2847.3371	giving the /RD-WORK-7/ adequate funds to accommodate	2850.7432
2291		2851.0908	at least five thousand of the applicants.	2853.3229