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1DCA_int_020.5631Okay.0.9921
2DCA_se2_ag2_m_011.3372Yeah.1.6123
3DCA_int_021.6391Okay, /RD-NAME-2/, uh, when you were younger, what kinds of games did you used to5.7238
5 6.3113play? You know, with the kids in the neighborhood? Can you remember any types of games you played?10.4601 
6DCA_se2_ag2_m_0110.4228Well the games we played were um,11.9427
7 14.0366usual games of a child, Cowboys and Indians16.5721
8DCA_int_0217.0803[Mm-hm.]17.4627
9DCA_se2_ag2_m_0117.2622[and] um,17.7611
10 18.4419and then we grew older we just changed to uh,20.4842
12 21.9845building our own little carts, and stuff like this you know.24.1761 
13DCA_int_0224.4885Mm-hm.24.8475
14DCA_se2_ag2_m_0125.3558Then25.7428
16 28.0172oh,28.4462 
17DCA_int_0231.3884[How about-]31.7801
18DCA_se2_ag2_m_0131.3931[I'm not a-]31.7764
19DCA_int_0232.0075How about marbles? You ever play [/inaudible/?]33.9286
20DCA_se2_ag2_m_0133.3271[Yeah, this is] it.34.1944
21DCA_int_0234.7306Kay, how would you play that?35.7564
22DCA_se2_ag2_m_0137.9107Well um,38.5395
24 38.9913it's just-39.4856 
26 39.6908if you hit a marble- hit the marble,41.0850 
27DCA_int_0241.4254Mm-hm.41.6818
28DCA_se2_ag2_m_0141.6772and knock out the ring or whatever you have- you know, whatever circle you had or square, whatever you had- then it was yours.46.1724
29 47.0383And47.2808
31 47.4300just like a-47.9942 
33 48.1248it's more so-48.8242 
35 49.0014Well now-49.4631 
37 49.6045now that I look at it, it's more so like gambling, you know?51.5789 
38DCA_int_0251.7281Uh-huh.52.0685
39DCA_se2_ag2_m_0152.1571Because you- we- whatever you won, you kept.53.8460
41 54.5771<laugh>54.9408 
42DCA_int_0255.3092<laugh>56.0692
43DCA_se2_ag2_m_0157.0007[So that's] the type of game we played and uh,58.5021
44DCA_int_0257.0053[Good.]57.3597
45DCA_se2_ag2_m_0159.5186well um,60.1714
47 61.6029my /pirents/- parents were strict, so I didn't-63.3644 
49 64.1291I couldn't go out that much.65.2948 
50DCA_int_0265.4627Uh-huh.65.8963
51DCA_se2_ag2_m_0165.9942This is- was66.6983
53 67.3465when I was younger.68.0039 
54DCA_int_0268.3432Uh-huh.68.6696
55DCA_se2_ag2_m_0168.9913When I s- When I grew older, then I-70.4508
57 71.8357I started moving around more.73.1180 
58DCA_int_0273.7755How about uh, tag? Or uh, Hide and Seek? Play any of those?77.0617
59DCA_se2_ag2_m_0178.2927Not much.78.9175
61 79.3418It was more of with the fellas.81.4887 
62DCA_int_0281.8773Mm-hm.82.2037
63DCA_se2_ag2_m_0182.3249This was it.82.7819
65 83.4114Mostly with the fellas.84.2507 
67 85.0714Basketball.85.9126 
69 87.0893I didn't play any baseball cause I didn't like it.88.7073 
71 88.8887Football was alright.90.0036 
72DCA_int_0290.3579Mm-hm.90.6657
73DCA_se2_ag2_m_0191.0947But basketball was the main sport I played.92.6507
74DCA_int_0293.0380Is that right?93.6068
76 93.7514You play a lot of /?/?94.7959 
77DCA_se2_ag2_m_0194.8285A lot of it.95.3974
78DCA_int_0295.7191You ever- You play in school too?97.2252
79DCA_se2_ag2_m_0197.2486I ran track in school.98.3304
80DCA_int_0298.6836Is that right?99.1732
81DCA_se2_ag2_m_0199.2711Yeah.99.5136
82DCA_int_0299.6488Oh, very good.100.5394
84 101.5000Uh,101.8544 
86 102.4325say when you were playing tag when you were a little younger, Hide and Go Seek,105.6255 
88 105.7421did you have any you way you could decide who was gonna be it to begin the game?109.0061 
89DCA_se2_ag2_m_01111.2944Mm,111.7560
91 112.0685none that I can recall right off hand but113.6911 
93 114.6517um, we counted-115.7335 
95 116.2359Well,116.5996 
97 116.8048whoever-117.2851 
99 117.7933whoever118.4695 
101 118.6373the majority decided who was-119.8917 
103 120.1341who's gonna count and then uh,121.1600 
105 122.0914then somebody s-122.5810 
107 122.9960call ten.123.9099 
108DCA_int_02124.2037[Mm-hm.]124.5674
109DCA_se2_ag2_m_01124.4462[Count] to ten, then we'd go out and find-126.1714
110 126.3673whoever we found first was it.127.7568
112 128.4737Then everybody was-129.3597 
114 129.5789He told everybody who was- who he tagged.131.5140 
115DCA_int_02131.9802Mm-hm.132.3626
116DCA_se2_ag2_m_01132.6377Then from then on,133.5470
118 133.7044just kind of rotated whoever he caught.135.0519 
120 135.4809You could-135.7654 
122 136.0032You could catch a man many times, or the same person138.3067 
123DCA_int_02138.5445Mm-hm.138.8802
124DCA_se2_ag2_m_01139.2299but uh,139.7055
126 141.1872you would uh,141.7374 
128 142.3715that's w- that's the way the game would go.143.7564 
129DCA_int_02145.0667Mm-hm.145.5050
131 145.7195Alright, good.146.2462 
133 146.8701How about uh,147.7001 
135 149.7471did you have any rhymes150.8849 
137 151.1879you ever used to decide who was gonna be it? Like when I was young we used to use, one potato, two potato, three potato, four. You ever use any [of those?]158.3977 
138DCA_se2_ag2_m_01158.1298[No.] We never used anything like that.159.7467
139DCA_int_02160.2177Uh-huh.160.6363
141 161.2015Okay how about uh,162.2554 
143 163.4537you watch a lot of television now?164.7220 
144DCA_se2_ag2_m_01167.0251Mm, not much.168.2544
145DCA_int_02169.4160Uh, are there any programs you171.0807
147 171.2299particularly like when you watch it?172.7127 
148DCA_se2_ag2_m_01173.8038Oh in- now or w- then?175.4171
149DCA_int_02175.7377Uh, now [yeah.]176.3486
150DCA_se2_ag2_m_01176.2646[Now], huh.176.9641
151 178.6847Well I usually like179.4587
153 179.6499to watch uh,180.3727 
155 180.7923Joey Bishop181.4720 
157 181.7657because they have a whole lot of-182.5444 
159 182.7030a variety of uh,183.5376 
161 183.7055people in it.184.3303 
162DCA_int_02184.4609[Mm-hm.]184.8059
163DCA_se2_ag2_m_01184.6520[The] type of people I like to see185.8084
164 185.9623like uh, Lou Rawls,187.1467
166 187.2866people like this.188.0500 
168 188.4605Uh, I like- I like jazz.189.9759 
169DCA_int_02190.6008[Mm-hm.]190.8899
170DCA_se2_ag2_m_01190.7453[So] uh, this type of show that-192.2776
171 192.9136that type of people come on193.8309
173 194.1108that time of night.194.6703 
175 195.6915So uh,196.2182 
176DCA_int_02196.7686Mm-hm.197.1603
177DCA_se2_ag2_m_01198.6198so this199.0721
179 199.4311/tind/ of shows I like and some201.3744 
181 203.2442may- maybe uh,204.3027 
183 204.6653Bonanza on205.4218 
185 205.6025weekends.206.3019 
186DCA_int_02206.5118[Mm-hm.]206.8195
187DCA_se2_ag2_m_01206.5631[On Saturday] and Sunday, ma- majority of time I'm out.208.4935
188 208.7733I'm playing a guitar or something like that.209.9763
189DCA_int_02210.4146Uh, did you play the [guitar?]211.7293
190DCA_se2_ag2_m_01211.2913[Yeah], I play a little bit, yeah.212.5351
191DCA_int_02212.7822You play in a jazz band or anything?214.2184
192DCA_se2_ag2_m_01214.3583No, I- Like I say, I just got to Service so I'm216.4006
194 216.9835tryna get together with my music and everything.218.7263 
195DCA_int_02219.3558Mm-hm.219.8640
197 220.6520That sounds pretty good.221.6732 
199 222.5638How about uh,223.4265 
201 223.9056movies, see?224.7729 
203 225.1786Go to the movies quite a bit?226.2977 
204DCA_se2_ag2_m_01226.7033No, depends on what's playing and who's playing.229.4078
205DCA_int_02229.6456Uh-huh.230.0500
207 231.3744Can you remember a-232.5541 
209 233.2489Say if somebody ask you what the best movie235.3752 
211 235.5652you've ever seen was, what would you say it was?237.7381 
212DCA_se2_ag2_m_01239.1417Well um,239.7432
214 241.4311it'd be a close thing between The Good, Bad and Ugly and uh,244.3070 
216 244.5495For a Few Dollars More.245.4214 
217DCA_int_02246.0509Uh, could you tell me [what The Good] Bad and the Ugly was about, I didn't see that myself249.3558
218DCA_se2_ag2_m_01246.6804[/That's what I'd say/.]247.1001
219 249.6355Well [um],250.1671
220DCA_int_02249.9153[Just]250.1997
221 250.3863kind of describe it for me.251.5567
222DCA_se2_ag2_m_01251.9110Well both of 'em were their own same basic thing-254.2040
223DCA_int_02254.5258[Mm-hm.]254.8568
224DCA_se2_ag2_m_01254.5491[Bounty] hunters.255.2625
225DCA_int_02255.7987Mm-hm.256.1904
226DCA_se2_ag2_m_01256.2464And um,257.0624
228 259.8123well,260.1667 
230 260.5537this fella, he-261.3791 
232 261.9433they had a set up262.5262 
234 263.0670whereas263.4990 
236 264.4192he would uh- he would turn 'em in265.9569 
238 266.1341for the bounty266.8009 
239DCA_int_02267.0760[Mm-hm.]267.3651
240DCA_se2_ag2_m_01267.0853[in each] county.267.7241
241DCA_int_02268.0412Mm-hm.268.3350
242DCA_se2_ag2_m_01268.6054And then when they were about to hang him,269.9577
244 270.5825he would270.8809 
246 271.1607um-271.7995 
248 271.9849They had a way272.4605 
250 272.7822that he would-273.1366 
252 273.2205He was a marksman. He would274.2510 
254 274.7500shoot the rope,275.3468 
255DCA_int_02275.6872Mm-hm.275.8924
256DCA_se2_ag2_m_01275.8411and he would ride past the o-277.0488
257 277.1968other fella'd be following the horse, and they would ride off.278.9594
258DCA_int_02279.2159<laugh>279.5236
259DCA_se2_ag2_m_01279.5236And they would do this280.3769
260 281.2209all- you know,281.7851
262 282.1115on and on.282.7737 
263DCA_int_02283.0161[Mm-hm.]283.3752
264DCA_se2_ag2_m_01283.0301[On and] on283.6223
265 283.8310to um-284.3377
267 285.5514until they found about some type of gold287.3095 
268DCA_int_02288.0276Mm-hm.288.3540
269DCA_se2_ag2_m_01288.6431that was hidden,289.2120
271 289.3600and um-289.9056 
273 290.4978that everybody was after. Then another f- uh, person292.9691 
275 294.2095was brought into the picture.295.1980 
276DCA_int_02295.8263[Mm-hm.]296.2040
277DCA_se2_ag2_m_01295.8310[Well he was] seen you know,296.9827
278 297.5283off and on during the pictures298.6474
280 298.7593and makes his presence known.299.9157 
281DCA_int_02300.2234Mm-hm.300.4939
282DCA_se2_ag2_m_01300.8156Then uh,301.1607
284 302.0128later on in the movie, he would- came out more.304.0319 
286 305.4121And305.7572 
288 306.0416all three of 'em were after the gold.307.6410 
289DCA_int_02308.1621[Mm-hm.]308.4745
290DCA_se2_ag2_m_01308.3019[Then um,]308.7169
291 311.4914the two fellas who were312.6011
293 312.9695partners in-313.6503 
295 314.1621[<laugh>]314.5304 
296DCA_int_02314.1900[Mm-hm.]314.4791
297DCA_se2_ag2_m_01314.7589in this uh,315.3418
298DCA_int_02315.5050[Yeah.]315.7195
299DCA_se2_ag2_m_01315.5190[scheme] they had going,316.4142
300 317.8644uh,318.3354
302 319.0244end up killing the fella319.9056 
304 320.1387at the end. Well,320.8428 
306 321.5516it was like a circle.322.4096 
307DCA_int_02322.6334[Mm-hm.]323.0484
308DCA_se2_ag2_m_01322.6381[They had it at a] circle, and everybody was supposed to draw /on it/ everybody.324.8902
309DCA_int_02325.2633Mm-hm.325.5011
310DCA_se2_ag2_m_01325.9895And uh,326.4791
312 327.7335this other fella, the one who was the marksman,329.2722 
314 329.6825he gave the-330.4986 
316 331.5943his friend, supposedly,332.6796 
318 332.9268the gun,333.2951 
319DCA_int_02333.7101[Mm-hm.]334.0319
320DCA_se2_ag2_m_01333.8780[which was] uh, loaded-335.0251
321 335.2489wasn't loaded.335.8644
322DCA_int_02336.6851<laugh>337.0488
323DCA_se2_ag2_m_01337.0581So /therefored/ he wouldn't have to draw against but one man,339.0340
325 339.1786and that was the man in front of him.340.0272 
326DCA_int_02340.4329<laugh>340.6054
327DCA_se2_ag2_m_01340.8712And then when other fella341.9623
329 342.8844found out he- when he- after everything was over when he found out about it,345.2112 
331 346.4888he wa- you know, he was kind of mad. Then the-348.2934 
333 348.5312then the fella put him up on top of this uh-350.2413 
335 351.8221on this cross,352.5868 
336DCA_int_02352.8059Mm-hm.353.0950
337DCA_se2_ag2_m_01353.1976which is where his gold and set the g-354.5545
339 354.6711two bags of gold right in front of him.356.0500 
341 356.9314And had a rope on his neck,358.0132 
343 359.4121so if he moved,360.4379 
344DCA_int_02361.4859Mm-hm.361.7844
345DCA_se2_ag2_m_01361.9243he would hang himself.362.8496
347 363.8407Then when- after he uh,365.0810 
349 365.7012at the f- he was riding off and he stopped367.6177 
351 368.5817about-368.8848 
353 369.2718I wanna say about-369.7894 
355 370.5588about a hundred yards or so.371.5240 
356DCA_int_02371.8084Mm-hm.372.1115
357DCA_se2_ag2_m_01372.1395Then he uh,372.6711
359 372.9136shot the rope and373.7342 
361 374.1947out with the picture.374.8988 
363 375.2532And he just rode on off and-376.3863 
365 377.0484And the movie- And the music dramatized it all the way through. I think that's what sold the picture because the music-380.9143 
367 381.0807the music they had uh,382.0645 
369 382.6567dramatized the picture.383.6079 
371 383.8318And that's helped it a lot.384.5778 
372DCA_int_02385.6258Hm.385.8916
374 386.0875Good.386.3206 
376 387.6262Mkay-387.8827 
378 387.9806Uh, any other movies you can think of? What's the latest movie you saw?391.1747 
379DCA_se2_ag2_m_01392.3066The latest-393.0620
381 394.7313Uh,395.3002 
383 398.0875A Stranger in Town.399.1086 
384DCA_int_02399.5236What was that about? I didn't see that one either.401.6047
385DCA_se2_ag2_m_01401.9716Well um,403.0674
387 404.0641it was on the same principle. It was-405.7101 
389 405.8081It was just a follow up-406.6987 
391 407.0904a poor one at that though.408.1349 
392DCA_int_02408.2289<laugh>408.7874
393DCA_se2_ag2_m_01409.2351A [follow up] uh,410.1250
394DCA_int_02409.4481[/??/]409.7226
395DCA_se2_ag2_m_01411.7154of uh, The Good, Bad and Ugly, it was- be bad. But the character they had in there, I guess he was- It was a new- tryna put a new character in it.417.4598
397 418.0231He just didn't work out. He didn't- He seemed420.0111 
399 420.9578more like uh,422.1581 
401 422.4942Doctor Doolittle type.423.4551 
402DCA_int_02423.6634[Mm-hm.]423.9521
403DCA_se2_ag2_m_01423.8811[And they] had him playing a role like that.425.2301
404 426.1200And it just didn't get anything out of it because he didn't s-428.2907
406 429.0906He didn't even appeal.429.9758 
407DCA_int_02430.3213Mm-hm.430.6574
408DCA_se2_ag2_m_01431.2112So therefore you didn't pay too much attention to the movie cause I took somebody else to see it.434.3853
410 434.8066Cause they wanted to see it,435.5166 
411DCA_int_02435.8338Uh-huh.436.1178
412DCA_se2_ag2_m_01436.5674and I didn't get to enjoy it. I just went- I lay up there and went to slep- You know, dozed off cause I didn't dig it.440.7498
413DCA_int_02440.7735<laugh>441.4077
415 442.4586Did you see uh, Gone With the Wind?444.2809 
416DCA_se2_ag2_m_01444.9436No.445.4075
418 445.9546No I haven't.446.4232 
419DCA_int_02446.1865[Uh] I [suppose-]447.1176
420DCA_se2_ag2_m_01447.0054[That] was before my time. <laugh>448.3639
421DCA_int_02448.3781Well they got it back in town now.450.0301
423 450.1673<laugh>450.5413 
425 450.8943<laugh>451.3440 
427 452.0729Okay.452.6551 
429 457.0904How about when you were uh,458.4137 
431 458.8729younger, did you ever have a pet or anything?460.7378 
433 460.8704Dog? Cat?461.6940 
434DCA_se2_ag2_m_01461.8360Yeah. I have a- I had a-463.4974
436 463.9735quite a few dogs.464.9459 
437DCA_int_02465.2137Is that right?465.6066
439 466.3450What kind?466.8514 
440DCA_se2_ag2_m_01467.0550Uh, split.467.8786
442 468.3803I had a white one and a black one.470.1433 
443DCA_int_02470.4327Mm-hm.470.8019
444DCA_se2_ag2_m_01472.1556And uh, both of 'em473.6609
446 473.8265<laugh> ran away.474.9247 
447DCA_int_02475.4312Is that right? <laugh>477.2137
449 478.0704That's [funny.]478.5722 
450DCA_se2_ag2_m_01478.3544[My] father didn't like but one of 'em.479.8786
451 481.5333And uh,482.1392
453 483.5450he stayed with us for a long time.484.8041 
455 485.6183And this one day, he just walk on off.487.2966 
456DCA_int_02488.0161Is that right?488.4847
457DCA_se2_ag2_m_01488.5510Yeah.488.9155
459 489.1663My father had a- He had brought a boxer.490.8088 
460DCA_int_02491.7650Uh-huh.492.0632
461DCA_se2_ag2_m_01493.1188And after you paid all that money for that,494.5699
463 495.3841he just, you know,496.2598 
465 496.9603that was his favorite.497.8218 
467 499.3602Thoroughbread boxer /for him/.500.8208 
469 502.1651So the other dog we just neglected.503.3248 
470DCA_int_02503.8123[Mm-hm.]504.1910
471DCA_se2_ag2_m_01503.9165[And it-] The whole family504.8490
472 505.3270wanted this dog but my father didn't like it. So uh,507.4835
474 507.8432the dog for some reason, he just walked on off one day and never came back.510.9058 
475DCA_int_02511.5826Hm.511.8533
477 513.5924How about um,514.5059 
479 514.9272school when you were younger?516.2325 
481 516.6170Can you-517.0099 
483 517.5286What did you study, you know?518.8019 
485 519.7628A- Any520.4065 
487 520.6242[subjects you can] remember you liked or anything?522.8868 
488DCA_se2_ag2_m_01520.6337[Well,]521.3532
489 523.8930Well I- While I was in school, I- I drew a lot526.1698
490DCA_int_02527.2207Yeah.527.5851
491DCA_se2_ag2_m_01527.6325because I um-528.3141
493 530.2244That's one thing I liked.531.2231 
495 531.3178I really liked it.531.9142 
497 532.9556And um,533.7839 
499 534.7401the lady who535.2466 
501 535.5191kept us536.0919 
503 536.5510after school,537.2847 
505 537.7675[she was a] artist.538.5674 
506DCA_int_02537.7959[Mm-hm.]538.0515
507DCA_se2_ag2_m_01539.3721And she had some um-540.3945
509 542.3617some pictures on exhibition down uh,543.9379 
511 544.5106s-544.7615 
513 545.0124Washington, uh-545.5804 
514DCA_int_02545.5993Oh down [at the mall there or wherever] it is?547.4170
515DCA_se2_ag2_m_01545.9875[Uh, yeah, I- Yeah.]547.0099
517 547.2040I was gonna- Yeah. She has a m-548.1439 
518 548.6173pictures down at the exhibition down there.549.9994
520 550.8751And um, well,552.1815 
522 553.3365we had nothing to do but all day555.0007 
524 555.3793til our mothers got home,556.1935 
526 556.9792was to sit up and draw558.2762 
528 558.8679[all day.]559.4406 
529DCA_int_02559.0146[Mm-hm.]559.3791
530DCA_se2_ag2_m_01560.3475So after awhile,561.2184
532 561.4620it's-561.6080 
534 561.7912you know, it just caught on.562.7378 
535DCA_int_02562.8278Yeah.563.1071
536DCA_se2_ag2_m_01563.1828And uh, in school, this was-564.2951
538 564.9531They would take me out of class to uh,566.3522 
540 566.6220draw something for school or something like- like that.568.6242 
541DCA_int_02569.3248[Mm-hm.]569.7366
542DCA_se2_ag2_m_01569.3390[So]569.6940
543 570.3851from uh,571.0458
545 572.7167elementary to junior high school, this is all I- mostly what I did, you know what I mean? Cause I had a art teacher who uh,577.0194 
547 577.5921had me draw578.2623 
549 579.7959background for the school plays and stuff like [this. And he would]582.5555 
550DCA_int_02582.1105[Mm-hm.]582.5744
551DCA_se2_ag2_m_01582.7638take me home, and you know, be-583.8477
553 584.3333go back and work on school plays and stuff like that.586.2550 
555 587.3390And I, you know-587.8123 
557 587.9875Me and him just were close together on /art/.589.5365 
559 590.2812This was just what I did all day long. He'd take me out of class /any day/.592.6858 
560DCA_int_02593.2585Hm.593.4668
562 594.8726Very interesting.595.7226 
564 597.0859What uh- Any other courses you liked besides art that you can remember?600.9484 
565DCA_se2_ag2_m_01602.9155Dra- Uh, well,604.3402
567 604.5816it's- it's al- always related to art [because it's] Mechanical Drawing.608.1496 
568DCA_int_02606.7874[Uh-huh.]607.1850
569DCA_se2_ag2_m_01608.6348I had to free hand in that too609.7438
571 610.5248because uh, when I went to uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior High,612.7253 
573 613.7294I uh-614.4942 
575 615.6350I was in this class,616.5248 
577 617.6863and um, they said Mechanical Drawing. Dr- The last word hit me, drawing. So I went on in there621.6397 
579 622.5438and uh,623.1686 
581 623.5757and the teacher said uh-624.4987 
583 624.6502Well he said he like the way I did it.625.8599 
584DCA_int_02626.4043[Mm-hm.]626.7319
585DCA_se2_ag2_m_01626.6599[He] said- Well uh,627.1663
586 627.3367this is all I did628.0562
588 628.5154the whole t- uh, whole time. While everybody's working on630.8395 
590 631.3676sheet metal, something like that. He said he just wanted me to draw. I would draw plans for him and stuff like this.635.3721 
591DCA_int_02635.8928Hm.636.1957
593 636.7022How about- What do kids generally- What do they do after school?639.6539 
595 640.6574Anything?641.3390 
596DCA_se2_ag2_m_01642.1342Well it wasn't too much to do after school unless you played ball, something like that.646.2408
598 646.7615You know, without any money, you couldn't do too much.649.1850 
599DCA_int_02649.5333Mm-hm.649.9262
600DCA_se2_ag2_m_01650.5273So we played- we played ball652.5390
602 654.9578and went to um,655.8315 
604 656.0682parties occasionally.657.2468 
605DCA_int_02657.5450Mm-hm.657.9426
606DCA_se2_ag2_m_01658.1036Uh-658.5201
607DCA_int_02661.0762Very good.661.6584
609 662.5794Uh,663.0291 
611 664.2692Can you remember when you were younger, did you ever have a666.7590 
613 667.1472teacher that hollered a lot you could668.7593 
615 669.2657remember?669.9758 
616DCA_se2_ag2_m_01670.3734I- I remember one like that,672.1342
618 672.4419but I don't remember her name.673.6658 
620 674.9723And uh,675.5024 
622 676.7284now I think about it, she was crazy. <laugh>678.8328 
623DCA_int_02678.7306<laugh>679.5211
624 679.9167Wh- wh- what would- what'd she holler about all the time?682.4775
625DCA_se2_ag2_m_01683.2775Oh you know how boys are, mischief and everything.685.9140
627 686.2244And we get into a lot of trouble.687.5164 
629 688.4822And uh, she would holler,689.3816 
631 689.5425I don't know why you have boys- You know, she would [holler] /like that/.692.1384 
632DCA_int_02691.4264[Mm-hm.]691.7483
633DCA_se2_ag2_m_01693.9095But uh, once you get older, you know how- you realize how them people are.696.5997
635 698.2102Eccentric.698.7119 
637 698.8113<laugh>699.1947 
638DCA_int_02699.2657<laugh>699.9474
640 700.7615Can you remember a best teacher that you ever had?702.9957 
641DCA_se2_ag2_m_01704.2670Well quite a few.705.2894
643 706.9319Some of 'em uh,707.8313 
645 708.3614they try to help you. That's what I appreciated. You know, when you uh-711.1332 
647 712.0326when you really didn't- you c- didn't care anything about the class therefore you didn't try to do too much in it.715.9282 
649 716.5936But they would try to s- You know,717.8382 
651 718.7662get your interests719.3769 
653 719.6703going in it.720.3425 
654DCA_int_02721.0194[Mm-hm.]721.3554
655DCA_se2_ag2_m_01721.1424[Then]721.4548
656 722.6173once you start understanding things a little bit more, you would uh,725.1213
658 725.7839be able to appreciate it more.726.7922 
660 727.3589Therefore, you would get interested again and you would try to achieve something in it.729.7391 
661DCA_int_02730.1935Mm-hm.730.5390
662DCA_se2_ag2_m_01730.6006But uh,731.0597
664 733.1086so teacher was dull,734.1818 
666 734.3427then the class- subject was dull and you didn't get anything out of it. The grades were low.737.3579 
668 738.0821And this- s- s- I think this is the way you can tell uh,740.1723 
669DCA_int_02740.3569Mm-hm.740.6693
670DCA_se2_ag2_m_01740.8397you know,741.1758
672 741.3367on how teachers-742.0657 
674 742.8798teachers is going743.5946 
676 744.0821or how good she is about her grades745.5306 
678 745.7510she give out.746.3049 
679DCA_int_02748.6810Mm-hm.749.1639
681 749.4621Good.749.6893 
683 750.2573Did- How about a teacher you-751.5779 
685 751.7936you just couldn't stand him?753.1048 
687 753.3225Any that you754.0894 
689 754.3639/unintelligible/?755.0313 
690DCA_se2_ag2_m_01755.0313I- None of them bothered me that much.756.7496
691 758.1345Didn't make any difference cause I uh-759.3225
693 760.2598I had so many diversion761.3579 
694DCA_int_02761.7366[Mm-hm.]762.0821
695DCA_se2_ag2_m_01761.8739[that] uh,762.2431
696 762.6833<laugh>763.1803
698 763.5712<laugh>763.8883 
699DCA_int_02764.1865/??/764.6031
701 765.7344Did you766.3734 
703 767.6325ever play a /tick/-768.5697 
705 768.6880trick on a teacher you can remember off hand?770.7877 
707 771.2657Like771.6113 
709 772.2598generally [kids /inaudible/.]774.0395 
710DCA_se2_ag2_m_01772.8278[Mm, no. I wasn't that] mischief. But /other/ fellas did, and uh, I was-776.5226
711 776.7687I was more of a- When I was young I was more of a quiet type.778.9556
712DCA_int_02779.2254Mm-hm.779.6230
713DCA_se2_ag2_m_01779.9449I didn't uh,780.5981
715 781.1120mess around too much.781.9072 
716DCA_int_02784.8798How about now, is there a group of people you786.9436
718 787.3081go around with or?788.3798 
719DCA_se2_ag2_m_01788.6220Yes.788.9675
721 790.3402Most of 'em are married.791.3579 
723 793.2513And um,793.9046 
725 794.6078most are older crowd.795.6397 
726DCA_int_02797.3106[Mm-hm.]797.6798
727DCA_se2_ag2_m_01797.3153[And uh], like,798.0821
728 798.2951people who um,799.1519
730 799.4528dig jazz like I do and like to go to uh,801.5166 
732 801.9426theaters and see802.7520 
734 802.9461jazz artists and stuff like this.804.4040 
736 805.2513This is the type of people I hang with.806.4753 
737DCA_int_02807.4314Hm.807.6870
739 809.4526Do uh, any of them810.7212 
741 810.9700speak any other languages or anything?812.8255 
742DCA_se2_ag2_m_01813.3841Not that I know of.814.3071
743DCA_int_02815.9165Are most of them uh, Negro or817.7294
744DCA_se2_ag2_m_01818.7451[Yeah most of 'em are] Negro.819.8006
745DCA_int_02818.7735[/or white/?]819.4361
746 820.4586Mm-hm.820.7710
748 821.6514Okay good. How about uh,823.1282 
750 824.0209in the group of people you go around with, is there any-826.2834 
752 827.3106any one person that's kind of a leader?829.0856 
754 831.6586Mm-mm?831.9710 
755DCA_se2_ag2_m_01832.0515Mm, no.833.1165
756DCA_int_02833.1213Any kind of-833.7650
757DCA_se2_ag2_m_01833.7934Nuh.834.3661
759 836.4043Everybody's doing something837.6444 
761 837.8858different so everybody leading his own way.839.9117 
762DCA_int_02841.2655[Mm-hm.]841.5211
763DCA_se2_ag2_m_01841.4434[And] like um,842.3806
764 842.8587I mean coming to music, I play the guitar so844.5532
766 845.2301I'm you know,845.9685 
768 846.2052[that leader] in that. Then somebody else is-847.8714 
769DCA_int_02846.2099[Mm-hm.]846.5933
770DCA_se2_ag2_m_01848.8729has um,849.7060
772 851.7271a wider range of c- uh,853.0762 
774 853.4596of records and knows854.6646 
776 854.8350what's happening.855.3367 
778 855.8196So he's the leader in that field.856.9508 
779DCA_int_02857.3106Mm-hm.857.6183
780DCA_se2_ag2_m_01857.8975And I have one fella who's very educated, so he's the leader in that field.860.5699
781DCA_int_02860.8918Yeah.861.1237
782DCA_se2_ag2_m_01861.1474It's [you know it vary-] Yeah, they varies on what the subject is, then you a leader in that.865.0194
783DCA_int_02861.2799[It depends on-]862.1509
784 866.2812[Mm-hm.]866.8539
785DCA_se2_ag2_m_01866.3806[/Wake up/.]866.9249
786DCA_int_02868.5816Very good.869.2112
788 869.9354Uh, say if you uh-871.5779 
790 872.3427Well you were in Vietnam huh?873.8480 
791DCA_se2_ag2_m_01873.8764Yeah.874.3166
792DCA_int_02874.5059For- for how long?875.4289
793DCA_se2_ag2_m_01875.5615Year.875.9358
794DCA_int_02876.7638And what was it like over there?878.1397
796 878.7309/?/879.0054 
797DCA_se2_ag2_m_01879.2989Cold sometimes. Well it w- what I mean cold, when it rained you were cold, and-884.2623
799 885.5971and um, <sigh>886.6148 
801 887.5236just miserable. You were- Most-889.1140 
803 889.2844I think what it was-890.1108 
805 890.7545The worst part of it was you- you were892.1651 
807 892.5911homeless- You'd be lonely.893.6088 
808DCA_int_02894.0253Mm-hm.894.4160
809DCA_se2_ag2_m_01894.7164You know what I mean? And you couldn't get that uh-896.4895
811 897.7580You couldn't communicate898.6763 
813 899.4763as freely with uh,900.6738 
815 901.1756you know, fellas over there902.2102 
817 902.9344as you could903.5498 
819 903.7202you know, with your people back home, or whoever you communicate, whoever you [tell your] troubles to.907.1424 
820DCA_int_02906.4040[Mm-hm.]906.6975
821DCA_se2_ag2_m_01908.3191So um,909.1285
823 910.4349but you did have uh,911.3816 
825 914.1155had some diversion or action to where you are.916.3497 
827 916.8514You could get away sometimes. You go down to the village or something like that.919.4359 
828DCA_int_02919.6442Uh-huh.919.9877
829DCA_se2_ag2_m_01920.1108And to listen to the Viet- uh, Vietnam band.923.0502
831 923.5946<laugh>924.0443 
832DCA_int_02924.0490<laugh>924.9152
833DCA_se2_ag2_m_01925.3412And they played uh-926.5936
835 928.0657They never- they never- they don't sound-929.6987 
837 930.1910The sound is strange. You know [/unintelligible/.]932.1581 
838DCA_int_02931.7132[Uh-huh.]932.0114
839DCA_se2_ag2_m_01932.4658They play all this uh, Vietnam [something something.]934.8467
840DCA_int_02934.3355[Yeah.]934.7687
841 935.7240/Yeah/.936.0745
842DCA_se2_ag2_m_01936.3377Yeah but um-937.4785
843DCA_int_02938.1629Different music. Wha- what uh,939.8054
845 941.1118uh-941.6514 
847 942.0537what uh,942.7827 
849 943.5542department were you- were you with [anyway?]945.3557 
850DCA_se2_ag2_m_01945.2515[I was] with the Artillery.946.5390
851DCA_int_02947.1213Artillery. [Did you see] a lot of action or?949.0652
852DCA_se2_ag2_m_01947.7319[Yeah.]948.1815
853 949.6374Aw, actually very- it was- it was-951.5545
855 951.7060it was unforeseen enemies far as we were concerned.953.6656 
857 954.3046[Mm-hm.]954.5981 
858DCA_int_02954.5081[You] never saw 'em uh?955.4643
859DCA_se2_ag2_m_01955.5759Oh we saw 'em, you know, but like, when they were capturing us like this but uh,958.4065
861 960.5271unless you, you know- you c-961.7767 
863 962.3569What-962.5983 
865 963.3083what happened they would attack. You know, I mean shoot y- But you would hardly see 'em because-966.5034 
867 966.9815because of the terrain,968.1960 
869 968.3664dense and everything.969.0527 
871 969.7344And you would hardly see 'em.970.6479 
873 971.2396But uh, you would-971.8549 
875 972.0727you didn't feel effect <laugh>973.1566 
877 973.8051definitely.974.2244 
878DCA_int_02974.8303Hm.975.0953
880 976.1083Did you have any close call?977.6183 
881DCA_se2_ag2_m_01978.8868Oh you know,979.3696
883 979.5428couple of times.980.4705 
884DCA_int_02981.3225What happened then?982.2787
885DCA_se2_ag2_m_01982.6574Well I was standing983.5378
887 983.6514with two fellas,984.4655 
889 984.7117then a mortar came in t- hit both of 'em.986.6835 
891 987.1521And then I was standing right in the middle of it, and nobody- It didn't even catch me,989.8502 
892DCA_int_02990.3898Is that right?991.0193
894 991.2162They were both killed or992.3475 
895DCA_se2_ag2_m_01992.3475No, [they were in- They were] hurt pretty bad, had to go to the hospital.994.7994
896DCA_int_02992.6693[just injured?]993.2989
897DCA_se2_ag2_m_01995.6609Then when the ambulance came to take 'em up, they got- the ambulance got stuck in the mud.998.6693
898DCA_int_02998.9391<laugh> Is that right?1000.4633
900 1000.6432<laugh>1001.2207 
901DCA_se2_ag2_m_011001.7697Well it was- I w- we were mad-1003.6205
903 1003.7842mad as hell because uh,1004.9791 
905 1007.1260you know, these people were hurt. They were bad, know- you know. And once a person got hit, they were [hollering and all this] you know,1011.5829 
906DCA_int_021010.7735[Yeah.]1011.2279
907DCA_se2_ag2_m_011012.3213And then fella got stuck in the mud. Telling me how does that look, you know.1014.9768
908DCA_int_021015.6232<laugh> He finally get out then?1017.0622
910 1018.1036Geez.1018.5769 
911DCA_se2_ag2_m_011018.5248Yeah, they brought a truck around to get it out, but I- by that time, they had1021.0714
912 1021.2777enough three quarter around there to take 'em to the hospital.1023.4977
913DCA_int_021025.5520I suppose you were glad to leave [Vietnam?]1027.5258
914DCA_se2_ag2_m_011027.3980[Definitely.]1027.9925
915DCA_int_021030.1746Hm.1030.3970
917 1031.3579How about uh,1032.1673 
919 1032.4371say if you had to live your life over again, anything you'd do differently?1035.9379 
920DCA_se2_ag2_m_011038.0537Yeah, [definitely.]1038.9200
921DCA_int_021038.2620[/Say that-/]1038.9436
922 1039.4197Twenty two years.1040.4290
923DCA_se2_ag2_m_011040.7877[Definitely.]1041.3083
924DCA_int_021040.7971[Wha-]1041.0811
925 1042.5958What- what would you want?1043.3390
926DCA_se2_ag2_m_011043.4715I would uh, concentrate on more if I ever-1045.4528
928 1045.6185You know, from school on up, I would concentrate more1047.6870 
930 1048.7047in school1049.6230 
931DCA_int_021050.0727Mm-hm.1050.4182
932DCA_se2_ag2_m_011050.5318than I did.1051.3771
934 1054.3876Definitely.1054.9603 
935DCA_int_021056.5318What did you wanna do when you finished school?1058.4516
937 1058.9013When you were younger?1059.6350 
939 1059.8101Did you have any plans?1060.8325 
940DCA_se2_ag2_m_011062.3709Well as far as I know, art was-1064.0398
942 1064.6504Art was it.1065.2279 
944 1066.0184[But then] after uh,1067.0124 
945DCA_int_021066.0373[Mm-hm.]1066.3544
946DCA_se2_ag2_m_011067.2159got into drafting,1068.1105
948 1069.7605and I checked that out.1070.7971 
950 1071.2326It was nice, but then I checked on uh,1073.1639 
952 1075.5712higher- out of school was set up for it1077.6870 
954 1078.1272and um,1078.6290 
956 1079.4668how many years you would have to go.1081.0194 
957DCA_int_021081.4217Mm-hm.1081.8051
958DCA_se2_ag2_m_011082.4327to /acquire/ go, you know what I mean? Because if you didn't just wanna be a j- simple draftsman, you know what I mean?1086.8348
960 1087.3270You wanna, you know, obtain some goal.1089.2089 
961DCA_int_021089.6255Mm-hm.1089.9615
962DCA_se2_ag2_m_011090.7284And the only way to do this I can see- You can achieve this1092.7070
964 1093.2513was to go to uh, college for architectural engineering and drafting.1096.1509 
966 1098.2620And uh,1098.6700 
968 1099.4765I didn't wanna go /them years-/ All I wanted-1100.8681 
970 1101.0054I like drawing. This is my primary1102.9934 
972 1103.4289reason for going in this, [and uh],1104.8584 
973DCA_int_021104.5081[Mm-hm.]1104.8774
974DCA_se2_ag2_m_011106.1108well, you know, this crit- this uh- this our requirements for doing this. So uh,1109.6703
976 1110.4182so.1110.7022 
978 1111.7558<laugh>1112.0966 
979DCA_int_021112.5084Hm.1112.8164
981 1114.4964Uh,1115.0550 
983 1115.8218how about if somebody came up and said /RD-NAME-2/, here's all the money in the world. It's yours. What would you do with it?1120.9082 
984DCA_se2_ag2_m_011123.8126[Well]1124.2575
985DCA_int_021123.8315[If you-]1124.2954
986DCA_se2_ag2_m_011125.4551it would be hard to say.1126.3355
988 1126.9556First I would n-1127.9307 
990 1128.7448Depends on how much money- It's all the money in the world?1130.6808 
991DCA_int_021130.7829Yeah.1131.0859
992DCA_se2_ag2_m_011131.3367Then that makes /??/. What would everybody else have?1133.4100
994 1133.6135[<laugh>]1134.2431 
995DCA_int_021133.6135[<laugh>]1134.2667
996 1134.5649[Well yeah- <laugh>]1136.2528
997DCA_se2_ag2_m_011134.5791[<laugh>]1136.2859
998 1136.7403If this was all the money in the world, what would everybody else have? So then I w- I would be just l-1140.2715
1000 1140.7401It would not f- it would /be/ too much I could do because1142.6078 
1002 1142.8587nobody else would have none, so what it be worth- you know.1144.7378 
1004 1145.4147Then it would be something else wouldn't it?1146.3898 
1006 1146.5724<laugh>1147.0126 
1007DCA_int_021146.9416<laugh>1147.8504
1008 1148.4895That's one way to put it.1149.9521
1009DCA_se2_ag2_m_011150.2219[Uh-huh.]1150.5154
1010DCA_int_021150.3402[Okay], how about a couple million bucks?1152.2336
1011DCA_se2_ag2_m_011152.3898Check. That sounds more like it.1153.8410
1012DCA_int_021153.8362<laugh> Oh, okay.1154.6220
1013DCA_se2_ag2_m_011156.0657/Well then uh/1156.7331
1015 1157.7177I would1158.0159 
1017 1158.5081start uh,1159.0146 
1019 1160.0624business.1160.7025 
1021 1162.6810I would go into a lot of fields.1164.1200 
1022DCA_int_021164.5413Mm-hm.1164.9294
1023DCA_se2_ag2_m_011165.2824With that type of money, I would go to a lot of fields.1167.0906
1025 1167.7817So1168.2030 
1027 1169.4053by the time-1170.1673 
1029 1170.5981Let's say about five years,1171.5306 
1031 1172.3569I would be established in so many fields, and I would-1174.5287 
1032DCA_int_021174.5296Mm-hm.1174.8846
1033DCA_se2_ag2_m_011175.5331and um,1176.2091
1035 1176.5981I w-1176.9152 
1037 1177.2446You would run across a lot of interesting people, therefore1179.1427 
1039 1179.6066your ideas- You would have1180.8798 
1041 1181.1355a wider concept of life and people and-1183.5684 
1043 1183.9546and places and things.1184.8539 
1044DCA_int_021185.1805Mm-hm.1185.5071
1045DCA_se2_ag2_m_011185.6776I would travel abroad1186.8514
1047 1188.1389and meet different people.1189.2872 
1049 1190.2149And this is uh- So when I-1191.8385 
1051 1192.5485So I won't be one sided because a lot of people in America are one sided.1195.9420 
1052DCA_int_021196.2528Mm-hm.1196.6835
1053DCA_se2_ag2_m_011196.9249They don't have uh,1197.6823
1055 1198.5106insight that1199.1544 
1057 1199.6514a person who have- who has been abroad and stuff like this.1202.0540 
1059 1202.7593So I would go1203.5687 
1061 1203.9616like, for knowledge and wisdom.1205.2964 
1062DCA_int_021206.2099Hm.1206.4797
1064 1206.6123Very good.1207.1945 
1066 1207.7652How about uh-1208.5936 
1068 1210.5154How about the holidays? How do you usually spend the holidays? Any special-?1213.7368 
1069DCA_se2_ag2_m_011214.3333Well it depends on- depends on occasion. Christmas I'm home1217.0266
1071 1218.4277Uh, New Year's, party.1220.3569 
1073 1221.6728Fourth of July, picnic.1223.1118 
1074DCA_int_021223.6893Mm-hm.1224.1200
1075DCA_se2_ag2_m_011224.1105And Labor Day, you know, similar same thing.1227.0243
1076DCA_int_021228.4444Mm, very good.1229.3011
1078 1230.2194Uh,1230.6217 
1080 1232.1534how about when you were younger? How about uh, around the end of-1235.2869 
1082 1235.6183I guess is it October?1237.0052 
1084 1238.7451Halloween? Did you ever celebrate that?1240.4051 
1085DCA_se2_ag2_m_011240.7284No it's O- O- Yeah, October. Well-1242.6738
1087 1243.5238Well,1244.0966 
1089 1244.9391I was a good time.1246.1556 
1091 1246.7568That was a good time.1247.5662 
1093 1248.4797Go out Trick or Treating. Everybody was having a good time.1250.9113 
1095 1251.3651If somebo- If some- If some1252.4917 
1097 1252.9934older fella wouldn't come and grab your bag.1254.8490 
1098DCA_int_021255.3582[<laugh>]1256.3143
1099DCA_se2_ag2_m_011256.1013[It was] a good [time.]1256.9628
1100DCA_int_021256.6220[<laugh>]1257.3841
1101 1257.8432Yeah.1258.1651
1103 1258.4633That was kind of a common thing, huh?1260.3567 
1105 1261.8791Yeah.1262.1537 
1107 1262.2954Were you ever in a situation you thought, Man, this is it now. I'm'a go now.1265.9165 
1109 1267.1282I'm'a die now.1268.0500 
1110DCA_se2_ag2_m_011270.9508No.1271.7082
1112 1274.4800Hm.1275.5261 
1114 1278.0064It's hard to say.1278.7496 
1115DCA_int_021279.6185Like in Vietnam, when those two guys got hit, you- ?1282.3213
1116DCA_se2_ag2_m_011282.7473Well,1283.1544
1118 1283.2822well it happened so fast that1284.3472 
1120 1284.5460only thing I thought about1285.4312 
1122 1286.1345and th- and this powder was burning, so if- I knew if I went up1288.9319 
1124 1289.6041everybody was going up, so I took 'em over in the bushes.1291.8504 
1126 1293.0953And um,1293.8669 
1128 1295.1828so if they were gonna attack, they would be in the bushes and most likely as dark as it was,1298.5936 
1130 1299.1569they wouldn't be able to see 'em.1300.0657 
1132 1300.5059And I went back to the gun,1301.4966 
1134 1302.4324and that part I was burning. So w- they got that out, then they started firing back, and they were f-1306.1793 
1136 1306.7710were firing all around everything. They didn't know where- where this stuff was coming in at.1309.9783 
1137DCA_int_021310.2859Mm-hm.1310.6409
1138DCA_se2_ag2_m_011311.3746But all I knew- It had to be coming1312.7899
1140 1313.3106in-1313.4857 
1142 1313.9875Well I couldn't say.1314.9720 
1144 1315.2209Because it- Yeah, uh, nah. Then I couldn't say that either cause I-1317.7817 
1146 1318.6479it happened so fast.1319.6798 
1147DCA_int_021320.4324[Yeah.]1320.8490
1148DCA_se2_ag2_m_011320.5839[But uh-]1320.9152
1149DCA_int_021321.0620You didn't have a chance to get scared, huh? [<laugh>]1323.8385
1150DCA_se2_ag2_m_011323.1237[Nah, we didn't have a] chance to get scared.1324.5485
1151DCA_int_021324.9698[Mm.]1325.2538
1152DCA_se2_ag2_m_011325.1544[We were] mad more than anything else.1326.6502
1153DCA_int_021326.8963Hm.1327.1377
1155 1327.4812Yeah.1327.8220 
1157 1328.3333Well th- Sometimes people say oh, whatever's gonna happen gonna happen [anyhow.]1332.5791 
1158DCA_se2_ag2_m_011332.2194[This the] attitude you have?1333.4204
1159DCA_int_021333.9025Yeah.1334.2244