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1DCA_int_010.4515What kind of games did you play1.8190
3 2.3422when you were a kid, say about uh3.9998 
5 4.4129ten or so?5.2724 
7 5.8082Do you remember?6.5784 
8DCA_se2_ag2_m_027.2035Well, when I was a kid,8.3965
10 9.7192really I didn't play too many games.11.1871 
12 12.0969You know, cause I really wasn't interested in 'em.13.6261 
14 14.2233Cause there's so many other things around now that um,16.5563 
16 16.7837besides games.17.5037 
18 18.0730And they are so far out in suburban areas, you know, the kids around there didn't care too much for playing,21.6283 
20 22.2199but mostly we went hunting, you know, for rabbits.24.4592 
22DCA_se2_ag2_m_0224.6407Know, catch snakes and keep 'em for pets.26.5216
23DCA_int_0126.8788Oh yeah?27.3532
24DCA_se2_ag2_m_0227.3197Yeah. [<laugh>]28.4193
25DCA_int_0127.9002[You keep snakes?]28.6369
26DCA_se2_ag2_m_0228.5588Go swimming, you know, and things like that.30.2834
27 30.6225But far as go, like games,31.8169
29 32.1908seriously we didn't take no games /in/, except for like34.2224 
31 34.3396ball, like34.9535 
33 35.1433what boys usually play.36.1591 
35 37.0576That's about it.37.6214 
36DCA_int_0138.2507Did you ever play any,39.0376
38 39.4841well39.8246 
40 40.3269did you ever know of kids playing games, where one kid had to chase the others or anything?44.2145 
41DCA_se2_ag2_m_0244.3956Oh yeah, s-45.2161
43 45.3165ah, yeah we had that played that. Um47.0118 
45 47.2128hide, go seek, kickball,48.5690 
47 48.8821basketball, football,50.1708 
49 50.8517and we used to go horseback riding.52.6880 
50DCA_int_0152.7536[Oh really?]53.3396
51DCA_se2_ag2_m_0252.8484[That's more of] a sport,53.7191
52 53.9089you know,54.2772
55DCA_int_0155.9126Did you have to pay, or did you have friends that had horses or wha-?58.5525
56DCA_se2_ag2_m_0258.5525No what it was, where we was living at was a stable out there.61.3864
57DCA_int_0161.8050[Oh, that's just] lovely [as a] kid.63.7361
58DCA_se2_ag2_m_0261.8329[And people owned]62.4970
60 62.8542<laugh>63.4793 
61 63.8198and so we was fortunate65.0365
63 65.8793until you know, they had to tear the stable down, and it got moved.68.4118 
64DCA_int_0169.4387They let you ride for free?70.6834
66DCA_int_0171.3643Or for work? Or what?72.5028
67DCA_se2_ag2_m_0272.5866No, just free.73.2366
69 73.4158That's /unintelligible/ we ride cause knew him very well.75.2921 
71 75.4595Th- his son was one of the fellas.76.8660 
72DCA_int_0177.4688I always had to shovel out the horse [manure <laugh> to earn my ride.]81.2864
74DCA_int_0182.4291How'd you play hide and go seek?83.8747
77 85.2532somebody stand at a tree or somewhere and then count to ten, you know, and everybody go and hide.89.2815 
79 89.4657And then someone come and find you.90.5652 
82 91.7317Then what [happens /they] go find you/?93.3279 
83DCA_se2_ag2_m_0292.1782[And then-]92.5689
85 93.3056well if they catch you and get back to the base before you do, you it.96.3962 
87DCA_se2_ag2_m_0297.1832And if not, well, you safe.98.6790
90 100.6045How'd you pick the first person to be it?102.3793 
92 103.3491When you first start out playing?104.6218 
93DCA_se2_ag2_m_02105.0067Well what we did, everybody start hollering, I'm not it, you know?107.8587
95 108.4001And then we start picking109.3434 
97 110.2852who didn't mind being it, <laugh>111.9596 
99 112.4842you know?112.8470 
100DCA_int_01113.8684Did you ever use rhymes or s-115.4758
102 115.5707something?116.4637 
103DCA_se2_ag2_m_02116.4637No, I didn't.117.1446
104 118.1087Never.118.4771
106 118.8399Like nursery school rhymes, and things? I don't know 'em.120.8101 
109 122.2277Never learned 'em, huh?123.0761 
110DCA_se2_ag2_m_02123.1709No, they had 'em in school but um124.6276
112 125.4076we didn't k- /??/ too much with 'em you know?127.2774 
113DCA_int_01128.3657I don't mean so much those, but like, uh, you know, one potato, two potato.132.1428
115 132.3549Did you ever hear that one?133.5437 
116DCA_se2_ag2_m_02133.6051Yeah, three potatoes, go, something like that.135.3186
118 135.9437Then Mary had a little lamb,137.2608 
120 137.7297[feet was white as snow.]138.5445 
121DCA_int_01137.9013[Or uh]138.3087
123 138.4985engine, engine?139.3078 
124DCA_se2_ag2_m_02140.0501engine, engine, number nine?141.0101
126DCA_se2_ag2_m_02141.8975I heard that one, and142.8072
128 142.9523then- had one uh144.0072 
130 145.4806uh145.8155 
132 147.0085so long ago. <laugh> It's kind of hard to remember <laugh>150.2066 
134 150.7256[back that far.]151.2949 
135DCA_int_01150.7256[Can you /use/] any of those that you remember perfect?152.9791
136 153.2470/unintelligible/153.8051
139 154.7874We didn't pick anything like that.156.1381 
140DCA_int_01156.5008How in the [world do you] play kickball?158.0134
142 158.6440Kickball. Well it, uh, it was more than one way of playing.161.3942
144DCA_se2_ag2_m_02161.9579Someone roll the ball and the other person kick it you know, run to a base, you know, and he had someone on his side.166.7187
145 167.0076Was two different teams,168.1238
147DCA_se2_ag2_m_02168.6429you know, and it was similar to baseball /only you can use/ your foot.171.2940
149DCA_se2_ag2_m_02172.2651And then you was allowed to through the ball at the person and hit them before you get to the base.175.5902
152 176.5948Instead of throwing to the-?177.4934 
153DCA_se2_ag2_m_02177.6664Yeah, to the uh, to the other guy.179.2403
154DCA_int_01180.8031What were some variations in that? Do you remember?183.6872
157 186.2726It's /?/ now <laugh>188.1857 
159 188.6699Boy you /got me/ going way back. [<laugh>]190.9470 
163 192.5278That's way back.193.1628 
165 194.1172Um,194.4297 
167 194.6418I can't remember exactly what was what you know, and- now a days, you know, because actually, I didn't play it too much199.3733 
169DCA_se2_ag2_m_02199.7975with the kids at all.200.7407
171 200.8858Mostly I kept to myself.202.0244 
173DCA_se2_ag2_m_02202.5881You know?202.9621
174 203.5802Because uh, what it was, I had a dog for one thing.206.1643
175DCA_int_01206.3538Oh yeah?206.9178
176DCA_se2_ag2_m_02206.8899And I spent most of my time with the dog, or I caught snakes for a pet,209.8144
178DCA_se2_ag2_m_02210.1718[and] I usually keep them, you know, occupied with my time.212.6874
179 213.2623But other than that, far as go playing like with all the kids, I didn't even spend too much time with 'em.216.4269
182 217.6157What did you do with the snakes?219.1659 
183DCA_se2_ag2_m_02219.6626Oh, well,220.3100
184DCA_int_01220.3491Once you-220.8179
185DCA_se2_ag2_m_02220.7565keep 'em.221.0412
186 221.8672Well if my mother didn't um run me out the house with them right away,224.8295
188 225.3541well I'd play with 'em for awhile, you know,226.9224 
190 227.3075because uh227.9382 
192 228.1447they wasn't poisonous.229.1214 
194DCA_se2_ag2_m_02229.5624There was only a few of 'em was poisonous, and the ones that was poisonous we'd pop the head off232.7032
196 233.2613or put 'em over some fire and burn 'em.234.8632 
198 235.4659[Looking for they legs.]236.3422 
199DCA_int_01235.4827[How could you tell?]236.2585
200DCA_se2_ag2_m_02237.1850Pardon me?237.5134
201DCA_int_01237.5143How could you tell wha- which?238.7352
202DCA_se2_ag2_m_02238.7296Oh [you can tell by the different] species of uh snakes because I read a lot of reptile books.242.8765
204 243.0885Oh.243.4681
205DCA_se2_ag2_m_02243.8029You know?244.2997
207 244.4001[And so that's why-]245.1034 
208DCA_int_01244.4057[What kind of poisonous] snakes are there around here?246.6416
209DCA_se2_ag2_m_02246.9550The only ones they had around here at- at that time, was um-249.4079
211 250.2535what was those snakes?251.1744 
213 253.6064It wasn't a black snake cause they're none poisonous snakes.255.5878 
215 256.8547Um257.8259 
217 258.1161I don't even remember the name of the snakes now,259.6677 
219 260.3207but it was [way out there.]261.3588 
221DCA_se2_ag2_m_02262.3174I don't think it was a Copperheads.263.4392
223 265.1973Well anyway, it was one right out here in Maryland266.8494 
225DCA_se2_ag2_m_02267.5289cause usually if you ask someone who was living out here, if they not an adult, they gonna tell you the exact name of 'em you know.271.6367
227DCA_se2_ag2_m_02271.8711But they got rid of all them.272.7920
228 273.2274But other than that, the rest of 'em was nothing but garden snakes you know?275.5324
230 276.3682Or a black snake.277.1608 
231DCA_int_01278.1040How- what did you feed them? How would you keep them alive?280.0072
233 280.2583Or how long could you keep 'em alive?281.6704 
236 282.7685you can keep alive long time, all you have to do is really284.3759 
238 284.5155feed 'em insects,285.5592 
240 285.7601mice,286.4354 
242 286.8261any small animal, you know?288.1879 
243DCA_int_01288.2158Oh yeah? Did you feed 'em mice alive or dead?290.2851
245DCA_int_01291.3846Oh yeah?291.8590
247DCA_int_01292.3055How did that w- what was that like? How did it get 'em?294.3929
248DCA_se2_ag2_m_02294.4543Well, what it is, they, know after they eat the mouse.296.7747
250 296.9087They just lay there and let the food digest in their uh body.299.3979 
251DCA_int_01300.3300Do the mice ever fight back or something?302.1215
254 303.4443They try their best to get away though.304.5424 
257 306.0382So you used to watch it?307.2382 
258DCA_se2_ag2_m_02307.3107Yeah, we used to watch 'em308.3042
260 308.5330very very closely, you know,309.9060 
262 310.1795and you actually can see as the mouse,312.3157 
264 313.2757you know, as he digesting the mouse, you know, the way his skin moves and everything.316.4682 
266 317.1044And within about318.0588 
268 318.5821one or two days319.5309 
270 319.7039the mouse is gone.320.5467 
273 322.3718They didn't have to eat too often, at that rate then?324.4536 
274DCA_se2_ag2_m_02324.5150Ha, no they didn't. [<laugh>] But when they did, they ate a lot.327.1814
276 327.4158Uh-huh.327.9461
278 329.3358Swallow 'em whole or?330.3683 
279DCA_se2_ag2_m_02330.5413Yeah, swallow 'em whole.331.3785
281 332.2548They didn't believe in biting off some, and saving some for later. [<laugh>]336.3389 
283 336.8803They don't own a refrigerator or [anything. <laugh>]339.4700
284DCA_se2_ag2_m_02338.2979[<laugh> No.] <laugh>340.0448
285DCA_int_01340.6853How about the dog? What-what kind of dog was it?343.3922
286DCA_se2_ag2_m_02343.5931Well the dog I had, I had more than one breed of dog.346.0489
288 346.3614Each dog I had was a Pedigree dog, except for one I [had]348.9218 
289DCA_int_01348.5191[Oh really?]348.9618
290DCA_se2_ag2_m_02349.1172was a mix breed.349.9488
292DCA_se2_ag2_m_02350.8920But then uh, I found out that out of all the dogs I had, the mix breed was the best one.354.2408
293DCA_int_01354.2617No kidding.354.9482
294DCA_se2_ag2_m_02355.0933Yes, he was easier to train for one thing.357.1974
296 357.7500And then like, if we left him out, and went out of town, he took care of himself.360.4011 
297DCA_int_01360.4346No kidding.361.1936
299DCA_int_01362.3252[What was his] name?363.5643
301 363.7094oh, we called him Keno.364.6861
303 365.5958K-e-n-o.366.3270 
305DCA_se2_ag2_m_02367.5158And so uh368.3362
307 368.7535to me, he was a beautiful dog cause he was- uh he was a mixed breed with German Shepard and Boxer.372.4092 
309DCA_se2_ag2_m_02373.2129And he was trained to uh baby-sit374.9889
310DCA_int_01375.3053No [kidding?]375.9667
311DCA_se2_ag2_m_02375.6240[little] kids376.3089
312 376.4654across the street up by the light.377.7435
314 378.1007He /???/ open the door379.3788 
316 379.6578or ring the doorbell.380.5453 
318DCA_se2_ag2_m_02381.6057And so he was very well trained because uh we had him for five years.384.4452
320 384.6405before he caught stimples and we had him put b-386.1195 
322 386.3372you know, put him away.387.0963 
324 388.0060And I thought more him than I did any dog <laugh>.390.6948 
325DCA_int_01390.8455Sure that's pretty smart for dog to do all that.393.5189
328 394.8751He even worked for a living where I- he was living <laugh>.396.9779 
330DCA_se2_ag2_m_02397.5416Yeah, a watch dog for a gas station399.1881
332 399.6792at night.400.2429 
333DCA_int_01400.4439<laugh> [Impressive.]402.3247
334DCA_se2_ag2_m_02400.5220<laugh> [It sounds-]402.3790
335 402.5803sounds incredible. But it really was true though.404.6298
336DCA_int_01404.7742No kidding.405.3617
337DCA_se2_ag2_m_02405.4321And if you could see the owner of the gas station now, he would tell you the same thing,408.0764
339DCA_se2_ag2_m_02408.6581and when the dog was there he wasn't allowed to go inside at all.411.1473
342 412.2845Was he a big dog?413.2389 
343DCA_se2_ag2_m_02413.6128Yeah he was very large.414.6454
345 415.3040I don't care too much for a small dog.416.5653 
347DCA_se2_ag2_m_02417.0900I like a larger dog for this reason:418.6025
349 418.9137if they don't bite,419.7620 
351 419.9462well they could scare devil out of somebody though,421.4196 
353 422.1005give them the impression that they will bite, [you know], that's a lot of protection.424.7014 
355DCA_se2_ag2_m_02425.4884But a smaller dog, they so small,427.0721
357 427.5800just can't have no fun with 'em.428.7241 
360 430.5101I think I agree with you.431.4533 
361DCA_se2_ag2_m_02431.5147You know, cause if you start wrestling with them you might hurt 'em, you know?433.7624
363DCA_se2_ag2_m_02434.5607And that's the only thing about it.435.3923
366 436.5923Do you think Keno would have uh bit somebody if he tried to rob the gas station?439.7010 
367DCA_se2_ag2_m_02439.9857I know he would have. [<laugh>]441.2214
368DCA_int_01440.7155[<laugh> He was a real watch dog.]442.8196
369DCA_se2_ag2_m_02441.5501[I know this for a fact.]442.5126
371 442.7638Yeah.443.1154 
372 443.5340And he was the type of dog, like he if he know someone445.5209
374 446.1795and um446.6427 
376 447.0725you tell him come over go with you somewhere at night,449.0078 
378 449.2032he'll go with you.449.7613 
380 450.8106And he will protect you,451.9045 
382 452.0552you know. If someone come tryna bother you, he'll watch out for you, you know.454.2207 
384DCA_se2_ag2_m_02455.2184Because uh455.8435
386 456.1114he was trained very well457.1439 
388 457.5737cause I spent all my time with him. I didn't even, you know, go to parties, or nothing like that.460.8275 
391 462.2438How'd you go about training him?463.5386 
392DCA_se2_ag2_m_02464.2865Well I started out when he was a puppy you know, house breaking him,466.9264
394 467.3395and then after that468.0315 
396 468.3776you know, I start /turning around/ the front door you know.470.3017 
398 470.9882And then watch very closely, he put his foot up on a paw- his paw up474.1081 
400 474.6104you know, and try to get him up there to reach the doorbell, and as he got larger he was able to reach it you know?478.1420 
402 478.5662When he was able to reach it, I stopped pushing it with the paw,480.6480 
404 481.0833and every time he pushed the doorbell, we'll open the door on the other side.483.7456 
406 484.3916And so it got so he was in a habit485.8037 
408 486.0772you know? When he wanted to get in, he ring the doorbell.487.8408 
410 488.2650We know to answer.489.0464 
412 489.6213That's great.490.4640
413DCA_se2_ag2_m_02490.7919And then if the door was unlocked,492.1259
415 492.2375you know, he could turn the doorknob with his mouth494.0514 
417 494.4477[to come in.]494.9444 
418DCA_int_01494.5155[No kidding.]495.0634
419DCA_se2_ag2_m_02496.3118He was easy to train, but497.5062
421 498.0462I tell you, like a- a Pedigree dog,499.7038 
423 499.8657they a little difficult.500.6638 
424DCA_int_01500.9819Oh yeah?501.5512
425DCA_se2_ag2_m_02501.6572Yeah, they say they're easier, but they're not.503.3763
427DCA_se2_ag2_m_02503.9846The uh Pedigree dog wouldn't take care of themselves.505.8418
429 506.5171They got no mixed breed.507.6390 
430DCA_int_01509.2687What else did- was he trained to do?511.0603
431DCA_se2_ag2_m_02511.7077He was trained to kill.512.4891
434DCA_int_01514.3407Did you do that on [purpose?]515.4234
435DCA_se2_ag2_m_02514.9658[He almo-]515.4737
436 515.8309yes, I did516.4281
438 517.0587because around the area where I /had/ was living at518.8782 
440 519.2633everyone had a dog520.0433 
442 520.2498was trained to kill.521.1373 
444DCA_se2_ag2_m_02521.8963And most of the boys used to put their dogs up to fight each other,524.1511
446 524.4190make bets,525.0330 
448 525.9483and so uh, after I had him.527.4594 
450 527.9450First time I was seen him fight, scared me half to death cause I thought he couldn't fight, you know? <laugh>531.4947 
452 532.0361But end up, this man's dog- he had a Boxer and he stick his dog on534.8867 
454 535.1267Keno,535.6234 
456 536.4550and536.8513 
458 536.9852I thought for sure the dog was gonna kill Keno but538.7266 
460 538.9275uh the dog didn't cause Keno got to his throat first.541.1433 
462DCA_se2_ag2_m_02542.0907But I end up making him let it go though before he killed him.544.0553
463DCA_int_01544.3480Gee whiz.544.9318
464DCA_se2_ag2_m_02544.9427But mostly I was scared half to death.546.3269
467 547.6850And then I had no trouble about that guy no more, you know?549.4454
469DCA_se2_ag2_m_02550.4054Then Keno kind of got a name for himself behind that you know?552.9504
470DCA_int_01553.0621I guess he would. Hm.554.0667
471DCA_se2_ag2_m_02554.0946Cause guys used to come around seeking for him you know?556.0522
473 556.5769Bring their dogs, stick their dogs on him.558.3405 
475 559.3340But he took care of hisself pretty [well.]560.5396 
477 561.3433Well how would you train a dog, I mean, you couldn't let him practice on [anybody <laugh>]565.2432
479 565.4965No you [couldn't.]566.1194
480DCA_int_01565.7678[for someone to kill.]566.5492
481DCA_se2_ag2_m_02566.5380All you do is567.1854
482 567.2736get a dummy.568.0282
484 568.8542That's all.569.3733 
486 569.9412And keep telling him, attack,571.0072 
488 571.2528but you, you can use yourself as a target.572.7151 
490 573.2539You know, put your arm up,574.2611 
492 575.2043show him some of the ways that a person would be mean to him577.7145 
494 578.0438because a dog know they master not gonna hurt him,579.7238 
496DCA_se2_ag2_m_02580.5721and then he'll know to attack,581.8446
498 582.3246attack your arm, or go for your throat, go anything.584.5404 
500 585.1641Then if you get him used to a command,587.0059 
502 587.5026you just get a dummy and put it in front him588.9649 
504 589.1435and say, attack!589.9695 
506 590.9239and constantly keep pushing that in his mind.592.3932 
508DCA_se2_ag2_m_02592.7532And he get what you mean.593.8304
511 594.9969He gets so you go for the dummy.596.1913 
514 598.1838Although a lot of people had um,599.5889 
516 599.7842different ways of training their dogs.601.3023 
518 602.2623Like some of the guys603.0381 
520 603.5125what they did, they gave the dog gun powder.605.3320 
522DCA_se2_ag2_m_02606.4753Some of the guys beat the dogs607.8589
524 608.5305to make 'em mean.609.3658 
526DCA_se2_ag2_m_02609.8179And which, I think is wrong because it's cruelty to the animal, you know?612.5137
528 612.8639And the dog don't know any better,613.9690 
530DCA_se2_ag2_m_02614.7615just to go on, by command.616.1624
532DCA_se2_ag2_m_02617.9317But I [didn't have-]618.4675
533DCA_int_01618.0879[It's] much better your way.619.2042
534DCA_se2_ag2_m_02619.8070Yeah, I never had beat him.620.5926
536DCA_se2_ag2_m_02621.8818Except for uh, my mother used to spank him,623.7739
538 624.4994because he had a bad habit of pulling clothes off the line.626.3189 
539DCA_int_01626.6259Uh oh. <laugh>628.0310
540DCA_se2_ag2_m_02627.6961[And whenever] he pull clothes off the line, he knew he did wrong629.6551
541 629.7891so the first thing he did was ran631.1174
543 631.3351[<laugh>]631.9251 
545DCA_se2_ag2_m_02632.1979because he knew she was gonna get next to him.633.7406
547DCA_se2_ag2_m_02634.3490Except for one day she caught /unintelligible/ you know, and she put his head between her legs and spanked him.637.8191
548 638.5837And after that639.3149
550 639.5828he didn't do it no more.640.2637 
553 641.0562That was enough.641.6702 
555DCA_int_01642.8454Yeah, that's great.643.6147
557 644.2585We had a dog, but it couldn't do all that stuff.646.3012 
559 647.2054You gotta really spend time with 'em,648.2882
561 648.5505all your time.649.1532 
563DCA_se2_ag2_m_02649.6374And you have to really show the dog that you really love him you know,651.4458
564DCA_int_01651.6100Oh yeah.652.1780
565DCA_se2_ag2_m_02652.1992and after that dog realize that, that dog will do anything for you.654.4422
566DCA_int_01657.1373Next dog I get, I'll-658.5549
567DCA_se2_ag2_m_02658.8507Pardon me?659.2526
568DCA_int_01659.3084next dog I get, I'll try to work with like that.662.1771
570DCA_int_01662.4562[Cause] then you have a valuable animal, then your-664.3189
571DCA_se2_ag2_m_02664.3245Yeah, and you have an animal that will take care of you.666.2501
573 666.6854Because um, I have a dog right now.668.6444 
575 668.8063It's a German Shepard,669.7216 
577 670.3690but due to the fact I'm living in an apartment, my cousin have to keep him.672.5911 
579DCA_se2_ag2_m_02673.9006And then at the time, I don't know,675.0782
581 675.2680I think /Wesley/ have seen my dog.676.4624 
583 677.5382because um678.2526 
585 678.4144what happened, I brought her down here to the office.680.0553 
587 680.6413She's okay,681.4283 
589 681.8078you can come up to her and pet her,682.9730 
591 683.5157talk to her, play with her684.5594 
593 685.3338but when we in the apartment,686.3217 
595 687.1365you can go in the kitchen,688.1635 
597 688.5653you can walk around the living room,689.7262 
599 690.1225but don't go near the bedroom690.9820 
600DCA_int_01691.7509Mm, yeah.692.3871
601DCA_se2_ag2_m_02692.6215cause she will get you, know?693.7266
603 694.3350And then don't touch the baby, don't touch the baby, or my wife696.7014 
605DCA_se2_ag2_m_02697.4214[at all.] <laugh> Only way you can touch the baby if we give you the baby.700.3558
606 700.9585Then you can't rock the baby, nothing like that702.5436
608 702.8338cause, so she'll attack you.703.8161 
610DCA_se2_ag2_m_02704.8319And then if I have her in a car706.2942
612 706.4770with me,706.8956 
614 707.2975don't come near the car at all.708.5365 
616DCA_se2_ag2_m_02709.0500I have to get out the car and come and see you.710.3727
618DCA_se2_ag2_m_02712.1643And so, I mean, she's pretty well trained, you know.714.3061
619DCA_int_01714.5238Did you work with her yourself? Or did your [cousin teach her?]716.8009
620DCA_se2_ag2_m_02716.2149[Yeah. I work] with her mostly.717.7274
621 718.2130And then, now my cousin have her, he working with her now720.1664
622DCA_int_01720.3516Mm yeah.720.7488
623DCA_se2_ag2_m_02720.8348because uh, she was getting to be a little too vicious723.0896
625DCA_se2_ag2_m_02724.0998towards everyone, you know.724.9705
627DCA_se2_ag2_m_02725.9863And then when we go different places no one now727.9663
629 728.1337allowed to walk close to us at all,729.7188 
631 730.2769which is very bad for her.731.6236 
634 735.0028Yeah, I guess they can go too far too maybe.737.3191 
636DCA_int_01739.5404What did you study when you were in elementary school?741.6892
637DCA_se2_ag2_m_02742.7259Well when I was in elementary school744.0152
639 744.2608I had a lot of math when I was in class,746.1919 
641 746.5379which, that's one of the things I major in748.3853 
643 749.2560was Math,749.7567 
645 750.0862Art,750.6220 
647 751.2862then English,752.0006 
649 752.1736Grammar,752.5866 
651 753.2954you know.753.6805 
653DCA_se2_ag2_m_02754.1270And then we had a lot of History.755.3995
654 756.9051The basic things that you really study in school, you know.759.0651
657 760.0641What about high school?761.4203 
658DCA_se2_ag2_m_02761.8389Senior High or Junior High?762.9942
659DCA_int_01763.2119Senior High.763.8468
660DCA_se2_ag2_m_02764.1761Well Senior High, I had mostly business subjects765.9900
662 766.7379cause, you know, mostly office work.768.3341 
664 769.1992And then I had a little typing,770.5652 
666 771.1959then I had you know, a little bit of everything.772.9205 
668 773.4340And then I had mostly uh, Art, because uh they let you sign up for some of your classes at the school I was attending [at the] time.778.6009 
670DCA_se2_ag2_m_02779.4213And so the classes I picked was Math.781.1961
672 781.4975/Now when I went/ to Trigonometry.782.9040 
674 783.4900You know, just got a touch of that,784.7068 
676 785.8719and then I had Commercial Art and Interior Decorating.788.1881 
678DCA_se2_ag2_m_02789.0885Then time I was in there, cause those was the main things I was interested in.791.5815
680DCA_se2_ag2_m_02792.4061And then one of the things that you take in high school whether you want to take it or not,795.1019
682 795.2526is Cadet.795.7884 
683DCA_int_01796.2572Oh yeah.796.8488
684DCA_se2_ag2_m_02796.8934Yeah, they get you ready for military service you know, which is good.799.5166
686 799.9394So some of the guys I know, something what it's like,802.0157 
688 802.8082but yet still it's a little rougher when you get in there.804.4714 
690DCA_se2_ag2_m_02804.9737You know?805.3253
691DCA_int_01805.3644I'm sure it is.806.0380
693 806.3069Have you ever been in?807.2718 
695DCA_int_01809.2141Neither have I.810.0513
697DCA_int_01811.6363What did the kids after school was out813.6833
699 814.0070in elementary school?815.2349 
701 815.3465Say in junior high?816.5632 
702DCA_se2_ag2_m_02817.1381Uh, elementary and junior high?818.3213
704 818.9464Well819.4096 
706 820.0459what I did /when ??/ s- /??/ elementary,822.2156 
708 822.7793I'm'a speak for myself <laugh> I can't [speak for anyone else.]824.8878 
709DCA_int_01824.3086[/That's all you can do/]825.6846
710DCA_se2_ag2_m_02826.1169But what we used to do, once we got out of school828.0076
712 828.1583we'd go down to the playground, play for awhile you know.830.0782 
714 830.7145And then someone always had a record player or something, you know,832.8744 
716DCA_se2_ag2_m_02833.4639and we used to dance,834.4494
717 835.1446and then I had a certain hour I had to be in the house,837.2711
719 837.6283about eight o'clock in the evening.839.4255 
721 839.6041And then /behind that/ I had to do my homework, and then to bed.841.6300 
723 842.0152That's elementary, and then when I got to junior high school,843.8723 
725 844.4416mostly what I did was party845.5690 
727 846.0825[after school]846.7857 
729DCA_se2_ag2_m_02847.2155every day <laugh> just [about.]848.6220
731DCA_se2_ag2_m_02849.1466I go partying and oh and then, if I didn't party,851.5228
733 852.1368I had the dog, you know, with me,853.6939 
735DCA_se2_ag2_m_02854.3656something like that.854.9776
736 855.8371But other than that,856.4957
738 858.3585nothing [else.]858.8887 
739DCA_int_01858.6208[What] about high school?859.5808
740DCA_se2_ag2_m_02860.0887High school,860.6635
742 860.8310I was in uh861.5286 
744 861.7128during the whole time I was in high school, I work.863.2859 
746DCA_se2_ag2_m_02864.3346You know, at Top's Drive-in?865.5402
748 866.0090And, I didn't get off until about four in the morning.867.9904 
749DCA_int_01868.0406Oh my gosh.869.2852
750DCA_se2_ag2_m_02869.3968So I actually had enough time to get home,871.1382
752 871.3600do my homework,872.0912 
754 872.8391get a couple hours of sleep,873.8214 
756 873.9888and get back to work.874.6921 
757DCA_int_01874.8986Gee whiz, how'd you take it? [<laugh>]877.2929
759 877.4269I took it-877.9850
761 878.1957I took it up until about879.1707 
763 879.2661a half in the semester in the twelfth grade.880.9975 
765 881.6672Then I had to cut it lose.882.6216 
766DCA_int_01882.7946Mm-mm. Geez, a wonder you lasted that long.885.1723
768DCA_int_01885.7737When did you go to work?886.7894
769DCA_se2_ag2_m_02887.0964I started working soon as I went into the tenth grade.888.8378
770DCA_int_01889.5131I mean when, what time of the day?891.2042
771DCA_se2_ag2_m_02891.5837Oh, I was supposed to be there at893.6084
773 894.1771four o'clock, but was no way, excuse me,895.7627 
775DCA_se2_ag2_m_02896.2204was one- no way possible for me to make it,897.9394
776 898.3915cause I was work- going to uh /RD-SCHOOL-4/, which is over on Seventeenth and East Capital Street,902.3193
778 903.0504and then I had to go out all the way to Arlington, Virginia,905.1378 
780 905.5062Fortieth and /Oakley/ Road,906.6615 
782 907.2741and so they let me come in at five, you know.909.1494 
784 909.8917And so I just worked a little later911.2479 
786 911.7670[than usual.]912.4256 
787DCA_int_01911.8395[You worked] from five til four the next morning?913.8320
789DCA_int_01914.1390Every day?914.8409
794 917.9999Well see, it's something I wanted to do because um,920.6621 
796 921.3276for the clothes that I like, my father refused to pay the money for924.0597 
798DCA_se2_ag2_m_02924.6346because at the time I was in high school, I liked forty dollar shoes, fifty dollar shoes.928.2495
800 928.7298And my father said that was too much to pay for shoes,930.7335 
802 931.5874and so I932.3130 
804DCA_se2_ag2_m_02932.5976]decided to] do-933.2786
805 933.5186I just decided to do one thing- work for my money,935.3771
807 935.6059my clothes, you know.936.4766 
809 936.9385And that's what I did.937.6138 
811 938.2110At least that way I was clean everyday when I went to school and had money in my pocket.940.8007 
813 941.1579<laugh>941.5039 
816 942.6313/inaudible/943.2588 
818 943.7183That kind of shot your day after school.945.1136 
821 946.6429I didn't mind.947.2233 
824 948.9535Um949.2717 
826 950.8609was there ever a teacher anywhere, at any of the schools you went to that hollered a lot954.5222 
828 955.4487at kids?956.2803 
829DCA_se2_ag2_m_02956.6208Uh, yes there was.957.7649
831 958.3384I had a Government teacher.959.4937 
833 960.2584She yelled a lot at the kids.961.8379 
835 962.4630But one thing I'm'a say for her, she was a very good teacher.964.4945 
836DCA_int_01964.8312Oh yeah?965.3581
837DCA_se2_ag2_m_02965.5528Cause when you go out that classroom,967.0169
839 967.4086whether you want to or not, you learned something.969.0500 
841DCA_se2_ag2_m_02969.7867One way or other, you know?970.7426
843DCA_se2_ag2_m_02971.6554But she was a very good teacher, she yelled a lot.973.3200
845 973.4646And then when I was in elementary school, I had one teacher,975.4370 
847 976.4768and she was hateful.977.5213 
849 977.8885<laugh>979.6884 
851 979.7743That was in kindergarten, though.981.0966 
852DCA_int_01981.1526Oh no.981.7784
855 982.2250that's one teacher I do remember, her name, everything.984.7931 
857DCA_se2_ag2_m_02985.3620I will never forget her because she spank my hands987.2645
859DCA_se2_ag2_m_02988.2670a couple of times. And then if you raise your hand to go to the bathroom, she say, no.991.1382
860DCA_int_01991.4226Oh man.992.2946
861DCA_se2_ag2_m_02992.3692And then if you do something in your clothes, then she'll spank you, know?994.7799
863 995.3616Then send you home to your parents.996.7325 
866 997.5567she kind of like and old witch. [<laugh>]999.7032 
867DCA_se2_ag2_m_02999.0873[She really was.] <laugh>1000.1551
868DCA_int_011001.8372You think-1002.3128
870 1002.4481do you think it was fair,1003.5392 
872 1003.9635what she punished the kids for?1005.4137 
873DCA_se2_ag2_m_021005.7727[No, it wasn't.]1006.4162
875DCA_se2_ag2_m_021007.3022No, it wasn't. She was just evil like that. It was a very old lady, you know?1010.4951
877 1011.1852And what it is, now that I'm older,1012.8312 
879 1013.2462I think what it was was her patience.1015.0636 
881 1015.4553You know?1015.9262 
883 1016.7888I don't think she had much patience with the kids at all.1018.8872 
884DCA_int_011020.2802Used it up years ago.1021.5718
885DCA_se2_ag2_m_021021.8423Oh, years ago. I thought she was the most hateful woman around.1024.5701
887DCA_se2_ag2_m_021025.1436If I had a brick, she woulda got it. [<laugh>]1028.6350
889 1031.6554I guess if I were to ask you if you ever had a teacher you couldn't stand, she would be it?1034.9800
890DCA_se2_ag2_m_021035.7541Yeah, she'd be the only one because all my other teachers I got along with them fine.1039.0869
892DCA_se2_ag2_m_021039.8516I never had any trouble with my teachers.1041.2272
893DCA_int_011042.9944Did you- were you ever in a class where the kids played a trick on a teacher? A practical joke?1047.1899
894DCA_se2_ag2_m_021047.3904Yes I was <laugh>,1048.6866
896 1049.1763several classes.1050.0657 
898 1050.1077[<laugh>]1051.4086 
901DCA_int_011052.4624[/inaudible/ ask this question.1053.4606
902DCA_se2_ag2_m_021053.8660well, in one of the classes,1055.2509
904 1055.3488well, we had our thugs1056.7651 
906 1057.1149in the classroom.1057.7583 
908 1058.5604And they was kind of smart but they /were/ thugs,1060.1504 
910 1060.6400and what they used to do sometime, they um1062.4714 
912 1063.0729/I mean/ the cushion in the teacher's chair, in the morning, they got in there and took it apart1065.8986 
914 1066.2716and put tacks under there.1067.3208 
916 1068.6253And we had to stay out the class for a whole week behind that1070.8821 
918 1071.2922cause no one wouldn't tell,1072.3885 
920DCA_se2_ag2_m_021073.1669and then another time was-1074.9796
922 1075.3667was someone brought some bees-1076.6769 
924 1076.8028/bumble/ bees in the room1077.7261 
926 1078.3602and let 'em loose.1079.1483 
929 1081.7350And so the teachers got us about that.1083.5349
931DCA_se2_ag2_m_021084.6447But other than that1085.2882
933 1085.5202everything is pretty nice.1086.6579 
935 1087.1708And then we had1087.8236 
937 1088.0008a few teachers that, well1089.1199 
939 1089.3064one teacher that is particular1090.6587 
941 1091.4933that everyone was really crazy about.1092.9144 
942DCA_int_011093.3154Aw yeah?1093.9589
945 1094.8541And that was one of my homeroom teachers, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/1096.9058 
947DCA_se2_ag2_m_021097.7440who was at /RD-SHOOL-5/.1099.2128
949 1100.2853because during the time she was there1101.9313 
951 1102.5934she did the things she had to do.1104.1555 
953 1104.3921And I think uh1105.3247 
955 1105.4972at our age that we realize that1106.8774 
957 1107.3297when we was bad1108.1178 
959 1108.4255she punish us.1109.1949 
961 1109.7591When we was good1110.3500 
963 1110.8398she reward us.1111.6371 
965DCA_se2_ag2_m_021112.2946You know?1112.7049
966 1113.1805And the kids thought so much of her that um1115.1763
968 1115.7171every time her birthday came, well she always got a1117.3573 
970 1117.5205surprise birthday party there at [school.]1119.4370 
971DCA_int_011118.8728[No kidding.]1119.5116
972DCA_se2_ag2_m_021119.9126Yeah, and gifts.1120.5887
974 1121.4968And right to this [day, now], I1122.7642 
976DCA_se2_ag2_m_021122.8957see a lot of kids who I know who went to school with me.1124.9707
978 1125.2458They go back and see her now.1126.2437 
980DCA_se2_ag2_m_021126.5813I even go back there every now and then and see her.1128.0436
981DCA_int_011130.0008She the best teacher you ever had?1131.8147
984 1132.8907no, she's really no contest really.1134.5740 
986 1134.8071[<laugh>]1136.2106 
988DCA_se2_ag2_m_021136.7609Another one of my teachers who I think very highly of was uh, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ She's also at /RD-SCHOOL-1/,1140.7791
990 1141.0822Junior High teacher.1141.9169 
992 1142.6536And uh, she was my English teacher.1144.1084 
994DCA_se2_ag2_m_021144.9804She taught me awful lot. I learned a lot from her.1146.8071
996 1147.4926And then like if I did wrong on my paper or something like that,1150.0385 
998 1150.5468got disgusted, she always said to me,1152.2674 
1000 1152.5833try at first and don't succeed, try try again, which is something that I never forgot.1155.6561 
1002DCA_se2_ag2_m_021156.2204And uh1156.7752
1003 1157.2369I did what she said.1157.9736
1005DCA_se2_ag2_m_021158.8537And seeing like I'm beginning to succeed now, in life <laugh>.1161.4044
1007DCA_se2_ag2_m_021161.9779Things getting better for me instead of worse.1163.8104
1009DCA_se2_ag2_m_021165.1289And I really think highly of her for that.1166.4904
1012 1167.8567What is there that makes a teacher good?1169.9037 
1014 1170.4341Or another teacher might be poor?1172.7702 
1015DCA_se2_ag2_m_021173.1899Well one of things is the personality of the teacher.1175.3721
1017 1175.5633The teacher getting with the students,1177.0309 
1019 1177.6138you know?1178.0568 
1021 1178.5650Getting interested in what some of the students are interested in, you know, and1181.4187 
1023 1182.1869you know, really putting theirself out with 'em, you know?1184.4298 
1025 1184.9147Instead uh, you walk in the classroom, like one of my teachers told me,1188.0389 
1027 1188.5646say um,1189.0869 
1029 1190.0288you- I got my diploma, you have to get yours.1192.1970 
1031 1193.3290The one who wrote the book gotta A, the one who teach the book get the B, and you can't get no higher than a C.1197.0033 
1032DCA_int_011197.6129<laugh> Shoot.1199.3848
1033DCA_se2_ag2_m_021199.4128[I have had several teachers that tell me that.]1200.8676
1035DCA_se2_ag2_m_021201.2733And of one 'em wasn't kidding.1202.3131
1037 1202.5463The highest grade was in his classroom1204.1725 
1039 1204.4709was a D plus.1205.4035 
1041DCA_se2_ag2_m_021206.2708I got a D minus, and I was grateful for that,1208.6022
1043 1209.2271you know?1209.6048 
1044DCA_int_011209.7136Gee whiz.1210.6156
1045DCA_se2_ag2_m_021211.6926And so um,1212.6485
1047 1213.4785I mean the teachers,1214.3038 
1049 1215.3845some of 'em, I say this, uh, for 'em:1216.9792 
1051 1217.8931they really feel like they doing the right thing you know?1220.2898 
1053 1220.7701But some of 'em really have to be cruel towards some of the students1223.3475 
1055 1223.5387cause some of the students are cruel towards the teachers.1225.6090 
1057 1226.4903And then again, I'm not too sure about that.1228.3217 
1059 1228.5315[<laugh>]1229.5387 
1061DCA_se2_ag2_m_021229.6087But it's a /for reason/,1230.4573
1063 1230.7651like I told you, the two teachers who I was speaking of,1232.6862 
1065DCA_se2_ag2_m_021233.4229okay they had the same type of students that some of the other teachers had.1236.0376
1067 1236.3780I mean guys who was really bad,1237.8142 
1069 1238.2152who wouldn't listen.1238.9986 
1071 1239.7062But yet still,1240.5036 
1073 1241.0211those guys respected them1242.1123 
1075DCA_se2_ag2_m_021242.7324very highly,1243.3199
1076 1243.8282and didn't give them the trouble that uh1245.2457
1078 1246.0186they gave other teachers.1247.0025 
1080 1247.8232And so I really think it r-1248.9236 
1082 1249.1521falls on their personality.1250.4950 
1084DCA_se2_ag2_m_021251.1478And then the high interest in the student is in the work1253.1517
1085 1253.7625because some of the teachers can sit in there and preach the whole book to you and everything else,1257.1711
1087 1257.5290and it be boring as I don't know what.1258.6854 
1089 1259.0538Next thing you know, everyone going to sleep, you know,1260.7884 
1091DCA_se2_ag2_m_021261.6137and then if you say something to 'em, well, they feel1263.6934
1093 1264.6807like uh you're against them,1265.6973 
1095DCA_se2_ag2_m_021266.1076[you] know?1266.5086
1096 1267.4039Because I felt that way myself,1268.7281
1098 1268.8809know, several times against some teachers.1270.5129 
1100 1271.4594And so,1272.0889 
1102 1272.4340I think one of the good qualities is their personality,1274.6773 
1104DCA_se2_ag2_m_021275.4777that carry a long way.1276.6341
1106 1277.0258And regardless of the race or1278.8630 
1108 1279.3572how poor a child is or1280.7981 
1110 1281.2131how the child is dressed when they come to school,1282.7414 
1112 1283.5714if you go ahead and try to be nice to that child and try to help that child1286.3924 
1114 1286.9240they will love you, know?1287.6980 
1116DCA_se2_ag2_m_021288.6108And they will learn something and try to do better.1290.2521
1117DCA_int_011292.0287Well I'm sure that's true.1293.1431
1119 1294.3497Do you watch TV very much?1295.7392 
1120DCA_se2_ag2_m_021296.9329I used to watch TV uh pretty often, but here lately I don't even have the chance really to watch it, you know?1301.9491
1122 1302.5459Since my wife, you know, she works over time1304.4530 
1124 1305.0033at night and I have the baby.1306.7320 
1126DCA_se2_ag2_m_021307.5294And so you know how much uh time [I have for TV now.]1309.9486
1128 1310.5685I don't know now, but I'm gonna find out.1312.3170
1130DCA_int_011314.4153[My wife's] expecting1315.6883
1132DCA_int_011315.8888[in the fall]1316.6022
1133DCA_se2_ag2_m_021315.8981[the programs I]1316.6302
1134 1316.7515do like to look at on TV comes on1318.2704
1136 1318.5362late at night, you know?1319.4921 
1138DCA_se2_ag2_m_021320.4153And like, earlier programs I like to look at is like, My Favorite Martian, something that's fiction.1324.5315
1140 1325.3709And1325.7672 
1142 1325.9817the reason why I do like to look at that and McHale's Navy is because nothing else is on.1329.1012 
1144DCA_se2_ag2_m_021329.7855You know?1330.3077
1146DCA_se2_ag2_m_021330.8999But later on in the evening, it's like uh, It Takes a Thief.1333.2593
1148 1333.9028I enjoy that very much.1334.9893 
1150 1335.1338Now, it's a new program just came on,1336.5315 
1152DCA_se2_ag2_m_021336.9792because uh actually, if you really look at it,1339.3013
1154 1340.0567it gives you a education1341.0872 
1156 1342.0652on how some thieves might operate,1344.0703 
1158 1344.4107pick pockets, and then that way, you know how to keep on the lookout1346.7934 
1161DCA_se2_ag2_m_021347.5861for yourself you [know?]1348.4429 
1163DCA_se2_ag2_m_021348.7414When people bump into you or something,1350.2288
1165 1351.0495and you- it's hard to believe some of the things that uh1353.3716 
1167 1353.8694the guy do in the picture.1354.9792 
1168DCA_int_011355.4082[Is that] an adventure story?1356.5319
1170 1357.0262Yes it is, but it's uh1358.4017
1172 1358.7561mostly, it's a lot of fiction in it1360.1025 
1174DCA_se2_ag2_m_021360.6621because uh,1361.3662
1176 1361.5853I feel it's fiction because um1363.2826 
1178 1363.9494it's impossible for some people to do some of the things that he do and get away with it, you know?1367.5993 
1179DCA_int_011368.0889Do you remember a story on that show that you could tell me?1370.7814
1181 1371.6689Uh, that impressed you? You know, one episode?1373.9304 
1182DCA_se2_ag2_m_021374.3920That impressed me?1375.1754
1183DCA_int_011375.2920Yeah, well that you remember.1376.7981
1184DCA_se2_ag2_m_021377.2446Ah, let me see now.1378.1818
1186 1380.2615Oh, I'm getting old and feeble-minded now, you know.1381.9541 
1188 1382.0474<laugh> [Very forgetful.] <laugh>1385.2543 
1190DCA_se2_ag2_m_021385.6833Well, let's see, he was on uh Monday night.1387.4925
1192 1388.2665It was a program on,1389.2912 
1194 1389.8041oh, it was one program where he was supposed to have stolen,1392.9189 
1196 1393.5624s- get some film,1394.7002 
1198 1395.2119some micro film,1396.1165 
1200 1396.5782of some secret information of the United States.1398.9935 
1202 1399.9401And, the part that really impressed me1401.7866 
1204 1402.1492was how1402.7833 
1206 1403.8278he was able to um1404.8863 
1208 1405.4225get the film from the guy without the knowledge of the guy g- knowing.1408.4056 
1210DCA_se2_ag2_m_021409.2729You know, and then the other thing he had a briefcase on his arm, that hooks on.1413.1944
1212DCA_se2_ag2_m_021413.6549He was able to get the briefcase off the guy's arm with a key,1416.3128
1213 1417.0961and the guy never knew the difference.1418.3831
1215DCA_se2_ag2_m_021419.2912Now all this happened in about1420.3823
1217 1421.4548fifteen seconds, you know, on a aeroplane.1424.2712 
1219 1424.6395<laugh>1425.0499 
1221 1425.7295And so I mean, you know, I really feel that it's impossible1428.3687 
1223DCA_se2_ag2_m_021429.3013because I know for myself if someone touched my1431.5208
1225 1432.4103uh wrist, you know, and I possessed something locked on there that's very valuable to me,1435.4971 
1227 1436.2245they not gonna get it off without me knowing <laugh>.1438.5409 
1229 1439.1377And so that's why I think r-1440.4620 
1231 1440.7604really amazes me, you know,1441.9681 
1233 1442.3877and1442.7235 
1235 1442.8960could it be true.1443.5675 
1237DCA_se2_ag2_m_021444.3963Cause really nowadays you can't say nothing that's impossible.1446.8257
1239 1446.9935<laugh>1447.6463 
1241DCA_se2_ag2_m_021448.3225You know?1448.7002
1243 1450.2471Then one of the other programs that I like to watch is Bonanza, which is a western,1453.8002 
1245 1454.6990you know.1455.1840 
1247 1455.8041And um1456.3030 
1249 1458.3081I forgot some of the other programs.1459.7604 
1251 1460.2852Really to tell the truth1461.3297 
1253 1461.6875if someone walk up to me now and say uh, what day and what channel do so and so pro- come on-1465.8002 
1255 1466.0194program come on? It could be something I watch.1467.5721 
1257 1468.0932I really couldn't tell 'em1468.9465 
1259 1469.5341because what it is, I just catch 'em, you know,1471.5578 
1261 1471.9914as they come on every now and then.1473.3716 
1263 1474.4103And then I Spy, I like that very much.1476.4130 
1265 1477.7256Mm. Okay.1478.4344
1267 1480.1822No thanks.1480.6903 
1269 1483.4132Can you remember a1484.1919 
1271 1484.5323episode of I Spy?1485.8053 
1272DCA_se2_ag2_m_021486.2378Oh yeah.1486.6668
1273DCA_int_011486.7833See, what we're trying to get is a story line that interests peoples.1489.6370
1274DCA_se2_ag2_m_021489.8515Yeah, this is one thing that interested me, uh, in I Spy,1492.7367
1276 1493.7392/where/ was this uh, one of the spies is Negro, the other is white.1497.2597 
1278 1498.1585And so the Negro s- spy, had a daughter,1500.3407 
1280 1501.3013which was a overseas daughter that he sent money and care too, and he went to see her,1505.0351 
1282 1505.8978which really surprised him. You know they were both as surprised to see each other, one was white and one was Negro.1510.5036 
1284DCA_se2_ag2_m_021511.5667And so uh1512.4993
1286 1512.9189the way that the uh,1513.9681 
1288 1514.7095the writer of the program wrote that, I think was very nice and very neat.1517.8651 
1290 1518.4060How she really love him, and he really love her,1520.9333 
1292 1521.3658and they seem to be very close just from mail,1523.5154 
1294DCA_se2_ag2_m_021524.2568you know?1524.5832
1295 1525.2966And I mean1525.8888
1297 1526.0520that part of it, I don't think is fiction at all because that's something that could be true.1529.7439 
1299 1530.6625You know it shows that a relationship between races can exist right now,1534.6388 
1301 1534.9885these days.1535.6366 
1303DCA_se2_ag2_m_021536.7324But some people think it's impossible because someone's skin is different,1539.9591
1305 1540.6761but it's something wrong with them.1541.8232 
1306DCA_int_011543.8574Yes, that's a good one.1545.2307
1308 1546.7647Have you seen a movie recently?1548.0143 
1309DCA_se2_ag2_m_021549.1801The last movie I seen was The Graduate.1551.1058
1310DCA_int_011551.4637Mm-hm. What was it about?1552.9139
1312DCA_int_011554.0889[You can leave out some parts. <laugh>]1556.1266
1313DCA_se2_ag2_m_021556.7281Well it was about a lady they call Mrs. Roger,1559.2636
1315 1559.8278and who's uh, husband1561.4598 
1317 1561.6090was a partner of this boy's father, and the boy was twenty years of age,1565.0957 
1319 1565.8605who never knew the difference between a male and female.1567.8888 
1321DCA_se2_ag2_m_021569.0918But yet still this lady, uh, she seduced the boy,1571.6786
1323 1572.7091and then come to find out that uh1574.4624 
1325 1575.0767she have a daughter,1576.0186 
1327 1576.6528and then the boy and the girl end up1578.0936 
1329 1578.3407running off with each other really.1579.6370 
1331 1580.1173Well actually before then she really messed the boy's life up, /and then/1582.7420 
1333 1583.3102The picture I think what the meaning of the picture was, to show1585.8842 
1335 1586.2106how some adults really can have a great influence on a younger person1589.1564 
1337 1589.9397because when she first started to influence the boy, the boy wasn't interested.1593.4742 
1339 1594.3497He tried his best to get away1595.5061 
1341 1596.1915cause he was really scared for th- for several reason,1598.6022 
1343 1598.7748that was his father's best friend's wife.1601.0351 
1345DCA_se2_ag2_m_021601.7066You know?1602.0237
1347 1602.3034And she was his elder, and he had respected her all his life,1604.9100 
1349DCA_se2_ag2_m_021606.0326but yet still she insisted on it, that she wanted the boy. She had practically forced the boy, you might as well say.1610.3271
1351DCA_se2_ag2_m_021611.0954And then it shows how someone that can be so bold also.1613.8791
1353DCA_se2_ag2_m_021614.6671You know,1615.1661
1355 1615.4225by bringing the boy into her house,1617.1665 
1357 1617.4637knowing that her husband was coming home,1618.8859 
1359 1619.5387and undressing in front of the boy1620.9982 
1361 1621.5624and locking the door1622.5136 
1363 1622.8121where he couldn't get out.1623.6327 
1365 1625.2589But, [<laugh>]1626.3601 
1366DCA_int_011626.1834[That's] pretty bold alright. [<laugh>]1628.6162
1367DCA_se2_ag2_m_021627.0588<laugh> [yes, it was.] And at the time, when the boy did get out,1630.5036
1368 1630.6574her husband pull up in a car,1632.0143
1370 1632.3827and that's when he made sure he got out- [out the room, you know,] and got downstairs.1635.7493 
1372DCA_se2_ag2_m_021636.5921And it showed the boy, how the boy1638.2288
1374 1638.3827really grew up1638.9749 
1376 1639.6044in a matter of weeks,1640.9193 
1378DCA_se2_ag2_m_021641.4229you know?1641.8239
1380 1642.2844And the boy just finished college and everything,1644.3407 
1382 1644.9189it's amazing.1645.5065 
1384 1646.6442But uh1647.1292 
1386 1647.8321far as go like1648.4010 
1388 1648.5315someone is really-1649.3802 
1390 1649.5201a boy is really that dumb in [life, you know <laugh>] w- went through [college.]1652.9047 
1393 1652.7608[College], yeah.1653.4422 
1395 1654.1025It's kind of hard to believe, [you know?] <laugh>1656.0097
1399 1658.3551But it-1658.8540 
1401 1659.1944it was a very good picture, though, and it had a very good reading to it.1661.7066 
1403 1662.1962Although if some people seen it, um, they thought it was a little on the dirty side.1666.0233 
1405 1666.5968But I think that goes by, how that person think,1668.9143 
1407DCA_se2_ag2_m_021669.4552you know if you think dirty everything will be dirty to you.1671.4556
1409 1672.0326But if you think there's some moral behind the story, well, you wouldn't think that way.1675.1661 
1412 1676.7468Yeah that's true.1677.7773 
1413DCA_se2_ag2_m_021678.3404And there was a moral behind that.1679.5667
1414DCA_int_011681.4645When you were a kid, was there a certain group of kids that you played with?1684.5921
1417 1686.1123I was always a loner.1687.1194 
1418DCA_int_011687.3013Same way, myself.1688.2385
1420 1690.2797What about now? Is there-1691.3802 
1421DCA_se2_ag2_m_021691.5714I'm a [loner.]1692.2848
1422DCA_int_011691.9537[/inaudible/] friends? Still are a loner huh? <laugh>1694.3551
1424 1694.5603Although, I mean I know1695.6421
1426 1695.7622quite a few fellers, and I mean1697.2216 
1428 1697.6786as far as go like saying best friends, all of 'em are best friends.1700.2852 
1432 1701.8741Far as go like letting someone get1703.2310 
1434 1703.6413very very close to me,1704.5226 
1436 1704.9376no.1705.2826 
1438 1706.4950I don't trust no one that much,1707.5663 
1440 1707.6642[<laugh>]1708.2844 
1442DCA_se2_ag2_m_021708.7740regardless who they are,1709.5527
1444 1710.7511male or female.1711.6370 
1446 1712.1686<laugh>1713.3017 
1448 1716.4666And so1716.8956 
1450 1717.1241I mean I have guys who I go out with a lot now.1719.4509 
1452 1719.8834No,1720.3497 
1454 1720.6388and I had 'em before,1721.4082 
1456 1721.8232but I never go out with the same guy too much.1723.7070 
1458DCA_se2_ag2_m_021724.0986You know, we never go out together on double dates too much or anything like that1726.8999
1460DCA_se2_ag2_m_021727.6087because I like change and back and forth.1729.3293
1462 1729.6743Because I really don't want myself to get involved with 'em.1731.9254 
1464 1732.9186Cause once you get involved, anything liable to happen.1734.8910 
1466 1735.8981You know, and if something happen, then your feelings hurt1737.9440 
1468 1739.2729and everything backfire on you.1740.2288 
1471 1743.8414Were there, among any of these people that you were1746.4387 
1473 1747.1754more or less friendly with, there- were there any- ever any white people?1750.3450 
1474DCA_se2_ag2_m_021751.4268No, I'm this way.1752.4993
1476 1753.2314I'm not prejudice. I don't1754.1872 
1478 1754.3271care what race you are in,1755.3576 
1480 1755.5663I'm not prejudiced towards no one because all my life I was raised with white people.1758.6625 
1482DCA_se2_ag2_m_021759.2687White, Negro, and Spanish,1760.6302
1483 1760.9520all foreigners, just about all nationalities.1763.1780
1485DCA_se2_ag2_m_021763.8278And I go by this way.1764.8816
1487 1765.4785I don't care what race you are, if you do something to me,1767.3809 
1489 1768.7274then I hold that against you.1769.9537 
1491DCA_se2_ag2_m_021771.0681I won't be angry towards you, I'll continue to speak to you,1773.5068
1493 1773.8368talk to you,1774.5502 
1495 1775.2123but yet still in the back of my mind, I never forget it, you know?1777.4645 
1497 1777.6930Make sure it don't happen twice.1778.8913 
1499DCA_se2_ag2_m_021779.9300And then, like far as it go like um1781.5760
1501 1781.8278cause you're a white man, um1783.2733 
1503 1784.0986I don't have anything to say to you.1785.0732 
1505 1786.1678That's wrong to think1787.0211 
1507 1787.1086because um,1787.8371 
1509 1788.0330they say all men a-1788.6998 
1511 1788.8397are created equal,1789.6883 
1513DCA_se2_ag2_m_021790.3551and I found out that's true because uh, some people in my race are just as bad as the white man.1794.1496
1515 1795.0029Although some of the white men, I have found this out to be true,1797.5430 
1517 1797.9440will take more of advantage of you1799.3149 
1519 1799.9397than a Negro will,1800.8537 
1521 1801.1614but the thing about it, when they do take advantage of you,1803.4276 
1523 1804.1632they try to be nice about it.1805.1377 
1525DCA_se2_ag2_m_021806.4387You [know?]1807.0075
1526DCA_int_011806.7204[/I don't know/ if that's good or bad.1808.2152
1527DCA_se2_ag2_m_021808.3271And so like uh for instance, you find a lot of con men,1811.2869
1529DCA_se2_ag2_m_021812.1682of all races,1813.0495
1531 1813.3479and that had been tried so many times,1815.2084 
1533 1815.6782guys tryna con me, you know, into doing certain things.1818.1542 
1535 1818.6298And especially young ladies1819.8562 
1537 1820.4763try to con me, mostly for, you know, money or to buy them something.1823.7299 
1539 1824.3501And the first girl I ever bought anything for in my life was my wife.1826.7981 
1543 1828.1678Other than that,1828.6155 
1545 1828.8533I won't spend no money on no girl.1829.9630 
1547 1830.3780And then when a girl start conning me, or somebody tryna con me,1832.6489 
1549 1833.2073I move away from 'em, you know,1834.2518 
1551 1834.6947because the g- con game,1835.9817 
1553 1836.7278One way or the other,1837.7043 
1555 1837.8422I know.1838.2059 
1557 1838.7328[<laugh>]1839.1758 
1559DCA_se2_ag2_m_021839.3996Cause I start getting that round when I was ten,1840.8719
1561DCA_se2_ag2_m_021841.3988you know?1841.8418
1563 1843.1008And then mostly the reason why I said I didn't play with no kids when I was younger because when I was ten years old, everybody I swing with1848.4153 
1565 1849.1707was in they twenties.1849.9308 
1566DCA_int_011850.5743Gee whiz, that's quite a [difference.]1852.3543
1568 1852.5875And see I grew up fast.1853.8185
1570 1854.1123I learned a lot,1854.6485 
1572DCA_se2_ag2_m_021855.4458very fast,1856.0567
1574 1856.6908and then I have uncles and aunts1858.3264 
1576 1858.9046who was about1859.6973 
1578 1860.0143eight, nine, ten years older than I am,1861.5158 
1580 1861.9588who taught me the ropes,1862.7888 
1582DCA_se2_ag2_m_021863.1478[taught me]1863.6094
1583 1863.8554always look out for this, you know, look out for that.1865.7066
1585 1866.8770And that's why1867.5857 
1587 1867.9681little kids seem to l-1868.7701 
1589 1869.0312it's like kids to [me.]1869.9720 
1592 1871.3709You know I really [didn't have too much to say with 'em.]1872.9236
1593DCA_int_011871.9117[They were way behind.]1873.0029
1596 1874.2059And then like uh, for instance, once upon a time they had a place here in DC where teenagers really could go and uh1878.9143 
1598 1879.2640have theyself a ball.1880.0054 
1600 1880.8027It was nice.1881.5581 
1602 1882.2751And when I was supposed to be in bed at that time of night, I was out,1884.9100 
1604DCA_se2_ag2_m_021885.9634having me a ball, you know.1886.9286
1606 1887.3938The smallest one out there, but I was out [there. <laugh>]1890.4107 
1608 1895.4408Uh, if you could live your life over again, is there anything that you would change?1899.8566
1610 1900.6136That you'd /be willing/ to do different?1901.9823 
1611DCA_se2_ag2_m_021902.4247Well, if I could live my life over again, I could change something.1905.0592
1613 1906.2051It is to be-1907.0305 
1615 1907.2683not to be as poor as I was.1908.8070 
1617 1909.1381<laugh>1910.9520 
1619 1911.0079You know?1911.4602 
1621 1911.8694And try to contici-1912.7880 
1623 1913.0445/conticipate/ more so than1914.6298 
1625 1915.0355life than I did, you know,1916.3831 
1627 1916.7188with other kids,1917.5581 
1629 1918.1678then tryna grow up too fast.1920.0143 
1631 1921.3572Because I miss out on a lot of things in life.1922.9753 
1633 1923.5430You know, like a lot of things right now1924.8066 
1635 1925.3988don't interest me because I already done 'em, you know,1927.2500 
1637 1927.6417like a lot of the kids are doing.1928.7841 
1639 1930.1025it just don't interest me, [at all.]1931.6413 
1641 1932.2428You're past it.1933.3572
1644 1934.5043And then, I'm'a try to grow up a little slower than I did at first.1936.7833 
1645DCA_int_011938.0750What did you want to be when you g-1939.7909
1647 1940.2479yeah, what did you want to be when you finished school, when you were back at school?1943.4082 
1648DCA_se2_ag2_m_021943.5667[When I was back in school?]1944.4247
1649DCA_int_011943.5714[Did you have a goal] you were shooting for?1945.3712
1650DCA_se2_ag2_m_021945.4179Yes I did.1946.2712
1652 1947.4369I wanted to be a doctor.1949.4315 
1654 1949.6926<laugh>1950.6485 
1656 1950.8770You know?1951.2034 
1658 1951.9075But uh1952.4717 
1660 1952.6722really a veterinarian,1953.9812 
1662 1954.1678that's what I really wanted to be.1955.2403 
1664 1956.1356I really had my heart set on it.1957.2407 
1665DCA_int_011957.5018Yeah, your interest in animals and all.1959.1385
1667 1960.1119and I really lost that interest1961.7392
1669 1961.9724when that dog we had named Keno died.1963.7256 
1671 1964.0567When he died, I lost all interest in being a vet.1965.9032 
1673DCA_se2_ag2_m_021967.0584You know?1967.4688
1674DCA_int_011968.0610How did he die?1969.2966
1675DCA_se2_ag2_m_021969.6837What happened, he had stimples.1971.1758
1677DCA_se2_ag2_m_021972.5129And so, the doctor said that they had no cure for a dog with stimples cause1976.2992
1679 1976.6256he got that from being around other dogs,1978.1865 
1681 1978.8066and so he said we had a choice1980.3034 
1683 1980.7697either to let him live and suffer1982.3178 
1685 1983.1152or put him away.1983.8053 
1687 1984.4663And so we had him put away.1985.5853 
1689 1986.1962You know, to see the dog living1987.3433 
1691 1987.8981suffering very badly.1988.9007 
1694 1993.5391If you had all the money you wanted just dropped in your lap, what would you do with it?1997.4062 
1695DCA_se2_ag2_m_021998.8630I'd share a little bit of it1999.6650
1697 1999.8842with everybody.2000.4903 
1699 2002.2191Because I wouldn't want all the money2003.1983 
1701 2004.4107you find people with a lot of money are very unhappy.2006.7048 
1702DCA_int_012008.4196[You don't] think money would2009.4361
1704DCA_int_012010.4946would thrill you that much then?2012.1639
1705DCA_se2_ag2_m_022012.1499No, money can buy everything, except love,2014.2145
1706 2014.8486friendship,2015.4874
1708 2015.7439happiness.2016.4107 
1710 2017.1521And those the main things a man need in this world nowadays.2019.4649 
1711DCA_int_012019.7948That's true.2020.4663
1712DCA_se2_ag2_m_022021.3056Because so called friends,2023.0355
1714 2023.8422they'll be around while you got it, but when it's gone,2026.2098 
1716 2026.4243that's when you find out who your friends are, you know?2028.0292 
1718DCA_se2_ag2_m_022028.5692If they with you when you're down,2029.6510
1720 2030.6908those your friends.2031.5302 
1722 2031.7622But if they only with you when you up,2032.8906 
1724 2034.6811they just wanna use you.2035.6137 
1727 2038.9978Uh, what do you do in a day's work?2040.7651 
1729 2041.0681Describe what you would do on a typical day at the job.2043.8193 
1730DCA_se2_ag2_m_022044.4383Uh, like the job I'm on now?2045.7625
1734 2047.8515For2047.9914 
1736 2048.2199right now2048.9939 
1738 2049.3343things are slow,2050.1772 
1740 2050.3683and then so mostly what I do is2051.8838 
1742 2052.2242something like mail,2053.3395 
1744 2053.8981or I might Xerox sometime2055.5068 
1746 2056.3683or I2056.7647 
1748 2057.2683go out somewhere, get some airline tickets.2059.7769 
1750 2060.0054Really what you have to do, is look for work.2061.8985 
1752 2062.6901Yeah.2063.0724 
1754DCA_se2_ag2_m_022063.6926And but other than that, if it's very busy, I help in processing,2066.5649
1755 2066.8121do some filing2067.8426
1757 2068.3963and help with proposals and2070.0004 
1759 2070.0961try to decide on2071.0681 
1761 2071.4458how many proposals do we need for this year.2073.4136 
1763DCA_se2_ag2_m_022074.2984You know?2074.7833
1765 2075.2589How should we arrange these proposals?2077.2080 
1767 2077.6883So we could find 'em easily.2078.7981 
1769 2079.3856You know when it's time for the grant,2080.5782 
1771 2082.0097and uh, which is very interesting, you learn a lot,2084.0334 
1772DCA_int_012084.3225[Sounds like it's] pretty high level work.2086.1818
1773DCA_se2_ag2_m_022084.6302[you know?]2085.0918
1774DCA_int_012086.8719That part.2087.5574
1775DCA_se2_ag2_m_022087.8465Yes, it's high level work, but uh2089.3806
1777 2090.4390you don't get the high level money.2091.4416 
1780 2092.6481That's the only problem [right there, you know?]2094.7231
1781DCA_int_012093.6646[Yeah. <laugh>]2094.6671
1782DCA_se2_ag2_m_022095.1847[They-] what they going on by is how much education you had2097.5954
1784DCA_se2_ag2_m_022098.0699[in school.]2098.6621
1786 2098.7458Yeah.2099.0182
1787DCA_se2_ag2_m_022099.3942You know, if you had uh2100.7977
1789 2101.2127like for instance, as far as I went to school was high school,2103.3297 
1791 2104.0979to the twelfth grade,2104.9232 
1793 2105.6133and at the time, my parents,2106.8676 
1795 2107.7349they wanted me to go to college, but2108.9350 
1797 2109.0639my parents really couldn't afford it.2110.2284 
1799DCA_se2_ag2_m_022111.4921And so I didn't push the issue2113.0215
1801 2113.6324because before I go to college, I say well I'd rather wait,2116.1492 
1803 2116.9559and maybe one year I'll go back to school at nights, you know,2119.5391 
1805 2120.5136and major in some kind of trade or something,2122.1025 
1807DCA_se2_ag2_m_022122.4849which I did start school, you know, in Landscape Design and Small Property.2125.5111
1808 2126.6116And so um2127.4089
1810 2127.7668right after I finish high school2129.2683 
1812 2129.4641I moved out.2130.0936 
1814 2131.9121You know?2132.5976 
1815DCA_int_012132.6582Mm, yeah.2133.2317
1816DCA_se2_ag2_m_022133.2784Cause I wanted to see what it was like on the other side of the grass.2135.4934
1818DCA_se2_ag2_m_022135.8465It looks awfully green to me out there you know? <laugh>2138.1080
1820DCA_se2_ag2_m_022138.8634And, at the time I was at the age of eighteen then, when I moved out.2142.0330
1822 2142.7744Haven't been back home yet.2143.7536 
1824 2143.9168I'm twenty four.2144.6022 
1826DCA_se2_ag2_m_022145.8881No intentions on going back2147.0631
1828DCA_se2_ag2_m_022147.8465cause I feel once a young man get out there,2149.5671
1830 2150.4717supposed to [stay]2151.2644 
1832DCA_se2_ag2_m_022151.7948be able to stand his ground you know?2153.0678
1833 2153.6226And I think when a young man turn eighteen, if he's not going to college,2156.3738
1835 2156.9566he should be on his own2157.9813 
1837 2158.5109Right, I agree.2159.6133
1838DCA_se2_ag2_m_022160.1262because um2160.7790
1840 2161.1428he no more baby.2162.0054 
1842 2162.4437<laugh> You know, ain't mama and papa /sound educated/ for eighteen years, they tired of looking at you eating their bread.2167.1567 
1844DCA_se2_ag2_m_022167.5391[You know?]2168.1220
1845 2168.6022And meeting them at the bank, you know, on pay day saying uh, how about a couple dollars, Pop? you know?2172.5506
1847DCA_se2_ag2_m_022173.2174I mean that's not where it's at.2174.2945
1849DCA_se2_ag2_m_022175.7901But I-2176.0046
1851 2176.2611I've been very fortunate though.2177.3895 
1853 2178.6625I guess it through the people who I know and everything, you know,2180.8494 
1855 2181.5523because really I can't say what you call a rough life.2184.3267 
1857 2185.6930Because my life was pretty easy really.2187.1047 
1859 2187.2119<laugh>2187.9347 
1861 2188.0326To be honest with you, because my father and mother really broke they neck to try get me and my brother things we really wanted.2192.0567 
1863DCA_se2_ag2_m_022192.6862You know, until my taste got so expensive in high school on [clothes.]2195.8092
1865DCA_se2_ag2_m_022196.3221Then my dad kind of put his foot down you [know]2198.2059
1867DCA_se2_ag2_m_022198.8121and changed those things.2199.8787
1868DCA_int_012202.3827What do you do er uh2203.4319
1870 2203.9354in your family er, say when you were a kid, what did you do around Christmas time?2207.7859 
1872 2208.2102Say, from the day before through Christmas day, what all would you do?2211.3436 
1875 2213.7392only thing I did far as I was concerned, Christmas was just like another day to me.2216.8587 
1876DCA_int_012216.9461Oh yeah?2217.3518
1877DCA_se2_ag2_m_022218.3963Yeah after I found out it was no Santa Claus for real, it was just Mom and Dad,2221.4505
1879 2221.6463<laugh> you know?2222.3271 
1881 2222.8214And I found out at a very young age like seven.2225.0491 
1883 2225.1797[<laugh>]2226.3594 
1885DCA_se2_ag2_m_022227.0775And then after that,2227.7722
1887 2228.2012it was just another day.2229.0965 
1889DCA_se2_ag2_m_022229.5104You know, Mother and Father still gave me gifts and things, but I wasn't surprised because I had already picked out what I wanted you [know?]2234.8809
1891DCA_se2_ag2_m_022235.2586They say, oh, what do you like? you know, because I like games,2238.1402
1893 2238.5133to bait me just to say what I like so they could try to get it for me.2241.0406 
1895 2242.4616And so2243.0724 
1897 2243.4315it just seemed like ordinary days to me.2244.9049 
1898DCA_int_012246.0054Would there be any decorations?2247.4789
1899DCA_se2_ag2_m_022248.0699Well yeah,2248.8300
1901 2249.0025we always decorated a tree or something like that, you know.2250.8723 
1903 2251.5018But after I-2252.0101 
1905 2252.2712like I said, after I found out what it was,2254.2284 
1907 2254.9605I wasn't2255.3475 
1909 2255.4641too much interested in decorating trees or anything. I didn't see no sense in it, you know?2258.1826 
1911 2259.2550Cause my brother knew also <laugh>2261.1564 
1913 2261.3988what it was so I say it's a waste of time and money just to decorate a tree.2264.5276 
1915DCA_se2_ag2_m_022265.1420Because far as it go like having Christmas spirit, something I don't have.2267.6973
1917 2269.0215/Unintelligible/ I didn't have2270.4251 
1919 2271.6502up until a year ago.2272.5595 
1920DCA_int_012273.0678Oh yeah?2273.6273
1923 2274.2755<laugh>2274.8164 
1924DCA_int_012274.8117Now you got it again? [<laugh>]2276.4717
1925DCA_se2_ag2_m_022275.8189[Yeah], I developed it.2277.0685
1926DCA_int_012279.3149Did you-2279.8511
1928 2280.1635was it a day for visiting?2281.5717 
1930 2282.2245I mean did your relatives come around or would you go around to your relative's house or [anything like] that?2286.7604 
1932 2286.7930they came around visiting an awful lot,2288.2805
1934 2288.5323lot of my relatives did.2289.5383 
1936 2290.1398But far as it go, like me going visiting them?2292.1775 
1938 2292.5785No.2292.8583 
1939DCA_int_012293.3996/Oh really?/2293.9040
1940DCA_se2_ag2_m_022293.9215I don't like to go to people houses and sit.2295.7027
1942 2295.9207I can stay home and sit too well [<laugh> you know?]2298.0283 
1946 2299.4692I always, if there's no action there, I don't wanna go2301.7622 
1948 2302.3823cause if I go, I just run in and say, hello, you doing, and then that's it. I'm all ready to go you know.2306.2572 
1950DCA_se2_ag2_m_022307.3005And it's the same way right now,2308.6388
1952 2309.2450far as it go like2309.9491 
1954 2310.2242going to someone's house and sit down2311.9168 
1956 2312.2572blase, and you know?2313.3343 
1958 2314.3430I'm really not interested in that because for one thing,2316.7089 
1960 2316.9336you have to hold still too long,2318.0042 
1962DCA_se2_ag2_m_022319.2856it's too quiet,2320.0787
1964DCA_se2_ag2_m_022320.7395you know?2321.2065
1966 2322.2507And I guess it really is my nerves you know?2324.1143 
1968 2324.4089I just can't hold still that long.2325.5632 
1969DCA_int_012328.8367What was the best Christmas present you ever got?2331.2196
1970DCA_se2_ag2_m_022333.3211Oh boy. <laugh>2334.8014
1972 2335.4711Let me see,2335.9822 
1974 2336.9054yes I do remember.2337.7121 
1976 2339.1436The best Christmas present I ever got2340.4760 
1978 2341.5439was a handkerchief.2342.2899 
1980DCA_se2_ag2_m_022343.7028A handkerchief.2344.5188
1981 2345.3115To me.2345.8664
1983DCA_se2_ag2_m_022347.0123It was cheap2347.9262
1985 2348.0195but2348.3086 
1986DCA_int_012348.2992Got a story behind [that.]2349.4230
1987DCA_se2_ag2_m_022349.1246[And it was] a card along with it.2350.7426
1988 2351.5586And I receive it from my wife.2352.9097
1990 2353.3060At the time she was my fiancee,2354.7282 
1992 2356.3229and it [/really got next to me/.]2357.3954 
1994DCA_se2_ag2_m_022358.5507And then uh, it's another one that I receive also.2360.8681
1996 2361.0013It was two2361.4370 
1998 2361.5815very good ones.2362.0572 
2000 2362.5141It's when uh2363.2415 
2002 2363.4374I was renting a room with2364.2569 
2004 2364.4574this family,2365.1428 
2006 2365.8050and what is it, they treat me like I was their son.2367.9546 
2008 2368.2950You know, they let me have the use of the whole entire house,2370.3035 
2010 2370.5134the car.2371.0776 
2012 2371.6464I was just like I was back at home at Mom and Dad's, you know, really,2374.4442 
2014 2375.1389and at that Christmas2376.3500 
2016 2377.2081they gave me clothes you know,2378.3272 
2018 2378.7842sweater shirts. They knew my taste very well.2380.6400 
2020 2381.2509You know and2381.7218 
2022 2381.8104they gave me those things, which really shocked me2383.6511 
2024 2384.3692cause I really wasn't expect for them to do that.2385.8287 
2026DCA_se2_ag2_m_022386.4582You know?2386.9991
2027 2387.6798And I mean they really seemed like my parents.2389.1895
2029 2389.9449Right today they do.2390.9241 
2032 2391.7634That's great.2392.5468 
2033DCA_se2_ag2_m_022394.0004But I've always [been very fortunate,] you know.2395.7444
2035DCA_se2_ag2_m_022396.0941At Christmas time, I always receive a lot of gifts.2398.3323
2037 2399.0457I give quite a few because um2400.7278 
2039 2400.9423mostly who I give my gifts to- I don't give gifts to adults, very seldom.2403.6468 
2041 2404.0478Mostly to kids,2404.9524 
2043 2405.5073you know, my little brothers, or little cousins, or someone else's little kids2408.9287 
2045 2409.6888because I used to be a sucker. <laugh> Excuse the [expression!]2412.3500 
2047DCA_se2_ag2_m_022412.9983But I enjoyed it2413.8563
2049 2414.0148because um2414.8122 
2051 2415.1386to me, to see someone other b- somebody else's kids happy, make me very happy.2418.3042 
2053DCA_se2_ag2_m_022419.0403You know?2419.3433
2055 2420.0195And I used to spend my whole pay check.2421.4883 
2057DCA_se2_ag2_m_022423.5726Just [buying]2424.0947
2058DCA_int_012424.0100[Those] kids [appreciate] it too.2425.4086
2060 2425.5392And2426.0381
2062 2426.1267you know, just giving things to people kids.2427.6468 
2064 2427.8054Even right today,2428.5934 
2066 2429.4316if my wife don't catch me first, [you know?]2431.8842 
2068DCA_se2_ag2_m_022432.3552I spend my money cause right next door to me in the same apartment building is a little boy seven years old.2436.3408
2070 2437.2175His mother's2438.0288 
2072 2438.1454and father separated so, she take care of him.2440.3136 
2074 2440.7892But she- to me, she's cruel to the boy2442.7558 
2076DCA_se2_ag2_m_022443.6324because um2444.4065
2078 2444.5324the boy wanna go out and play with some of the other guys out, so as you know, ride the bicycle around.2448.3093 
2080 2448.8647She said, no, you stay in this house, you know?2450.6490 
2082 2451.2691And so um2452.2343 
2084 2452.6866I mean she spanks the boy a lot.2453.8710 
2086 2454.0844She spank him so bad til you can hear it through the walls just about.2456.9008 
2088DCA_se2_ag2_m_022458.1131And so what I do, he stays at my house a lot now.2460.2522
2090 2460.5740You know, spend the night and everything.2461.9262 
2092 2462.2293I take him out horseback riding,2463.7541 
2094 2463.9173things that he never done before,2465.0970 
2096 2465.7207and just to see the expression on his face, and the other kids around there,2468.6443 
2098 2468.9707how happy they be when I do these, make me feel very good.2471.0037 
2100 2471.2509Make me feel like I'm doing something,2472.1182 
2102 2472.4994you know?2473.0123 
2104 2474.1827And most people really think he's my little brother, cause he calls- he tells everybody I'm his brother.2477.8197 
2105DCA_int_012477.9414Mm-hm. [<laugh>]2479.5345
2107DCA_int_012480.4764Probably better than his brother.2481.6235
2109 2482.3229But little girls,2483.3674
2111 2483.8419I'll give 'em a gift, but as far as go like2485.3433 
2113 2485.5159playing with little girls and thing?2486.5137 
2115 2486.6303No.2486.9707 
2117 2488.1318Because um2488.9478 
2119 2489.5435when a girl's at a certain age2490.9563 
2121 2491.4506it's wise for a man not to2492.7515 
2123 2493.1386be too close to her.2493.8940 
2125 2494.7473If anything happen2495.7871 
2127 2496.5273you can be blame,2497.2687 
2129 2497.6698whether you was around when it happened or not,2498.9940 
2131 2499.4183you know?2499.8613 
2132DCA_int_012500.5654And it's just a smart thing /to do/.2502.0436
2134DCA_int_012505.1805Were you a- change and make it a little more serious for a moment2508.0886
2136 2508.2476were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or die?2511.2085 
2139 2514.6393let me see if I can remember.2515.6651 
2141 2517.1432Yes I was, once.2518.2852 
2143 2519.3441It was when I fell out of a two story window once.2521.4972 
2144DCA_int_012521.4663Oh my gosh.2522.2983
2145DCA_se2_ag2_m_022523.0966You know?2523.5955
2147 2524.3789And it was, I was just2525.6006 
2149 2526.0377jiving around,2526.7931 
2151 2527.4459my cousin and I,2528.1827 
2153 2528.4438doing something we wasn't supposed to be doing,2529.7028 
2155 2530.0385like playing baseball inside the house.2531.6892 
2157 2532.5553You know? On the second floor.2534.1314 
2159 2534.7142She was in the2535.3204 
2161 2535.4696hall2536.0012 
2163 2536.3509and the bedroom door, when you open it,2537.5586 
2165 2537.6694you could throw the ball way back and hit2539.4319 
2167DCA_se2_ag2_m_022539.7350the ball.2540.1314
2168 2540.7376And so when she um2541.7261
2170 2542.6820threw the ball this time,2543.6845 
2172 2544.0331I got ready to hit the ball,2544.9936 
2174 2545.2548and then I see well it might break the window pane if I swung the bat2547.9079 
2176DCA_se2_ag2_m_022548.3043so I dropped the bat to catch the ball, and when I went back like that2550.8864
2177 2551.4599I went through the window.2552.1267
2180 2552.8868Was the window closed?2553.8100 
2181DCA_se2_ag2_m_022554.0898No it was open.2554.7379
2183DCA_se2_ag2_m_022555.2555Cause in the summer time.2556.1648
2185 2556.7791I got the ball and /unintelligible/ get hurt.2558.4485 
2187 2559.0733But [on the way going down] a lot of thoughts running through my mind. <laugh>2563.3853 
2188DCA_int_012563.3294Weren't hurt at all, didn't break any bones?2565.1059
2189DCA_se2_ag2_m_022565.0406No, I wasn't hurt. I was shocked though.2566.7426
2190 2566.9151[You know?]2567.3208
2191DCA_int_012566.9711[Well I] guess.2567.7171
2192DCA_se2_ag2_m_022568.0844That's about all. I landed on my feet and everything. <laugh>2570.3179
2193DCA_int_012570.2653Oh my [/gosh/.]2571.2446
2194DCA_se2_ag2_m_022570.8122You know.2571.1386
2195 2572.9851But I was shocked more than I was anything else.2574.8537
2197DCA_se2_ag2_m_022575.7490But other than that, as far as go like2577.0313
2199 2577.3531being close to death or anything like that, no.2579.0550 
2201 2579.7078Because um2580.3500 
2203 2581.1522I really was never around the type of environment where2583.5629 
2205 2583.9033[I might]2584.3509 
2207 2584.5374feel like [something really] happened [to me.]2586.0669 
2209 2588.2106And that's all I have to say about that.2589.6095 
2212 2590.9151Sometimes people say that2592.0482 
2214 2592.4341whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. [There's no sense] fighting it.2595.2411 
2215DCA_se2_ag2_m_022594.1314[That's true.]2594.7795
2216 2595.3810That's right. It doesn't worry-2596.2996
2218 2596.4628it don't even worry me.2597.2602 
2220 2597.7160And then like um2598.5507 
2222 2599.2921a lot of people tell me, say,2600.2899 
2224 2600.8541you better not go out this time of night because somebody might2603.2322 
2226 2603.4141hurt you, or something like that.2604.3500 
2228 2604.8584And far as go like going to school and things, or certain areas a lot of kids wouldn't go through2608.6734 
2230 2609.6565because in order for us to get to school, we have to go through the rough areas. Guys who uh collect protection fees.2614.3509 
2232 2615.6519And so end up, I got to know all the hoodlums and thugs around the neighborhood,2618.6723 
2234 2618.9847so I can get through those areas for free [/unintelligible/ you know,]2621.9352 
2236DCA_se2_ag2_m_022622.0517without the fear of getting beat up.2623.4319
2238 2624.0288But yet still, right to this day, I don't care.2626.1831 
2240 2626.3136I'll walk through anywhere.2627.6519 
2242 2627.8419If a group of boys come down the street2629.0449 
2244 2629.2175I walk on past 'em.2630.0241 
2246 2630.4811It don't bother me because I feel this way:2632.3183 
2248 2632.8580it's the good Lord meaning for me to get hurt,2634.3500 
2250 2634.9563I'm gonna get hurt. You can't duck it.2635.9355 
2252DCA_se2_ag2_m_022636.7935But if you don't well,2637.8147
2254 2638.2577you can walk on through, and then if you show a person that you're not scared2640.7418 
2256 2641.4972and just ignore them but keep to yourself,2643.0406 
2258 2644.1504they not gonna bother you.2644.8452 
2260DCA_se2_ag2_m_022645.5528Because they don't know what you gonna do.2646.6719
2262DCA_se2_ag2_m_022648.3365But if you show a little bit of fear,2649.5909
2264 2649.9219which I did one time in my life,2651.3581 
2266 2652.1170boy you can really have it.2652.9843 
2268 2654.0008This one thing I did in my life,2655.2831 
2270 2655.7820was when I was in elementary school with this boy.2658.0109 
2272 2658.4014/He used to wait for me/ everyday, he was /waiting where I was/2660.8401 
2274 2661.4976and everyday /unintelligible/2662.5841 
2276 2663.1016I always ran home.2664.0995 
2278 2664.4434He was right behind me, ready to catch up with me and beat me up you know.2666.7888 
2280 2667.5769And so he chased me up for about a year and half2669.1576 
2282 2669.3301a year and half.2670.1042 
2283DCA_int_012670.3309Oh my god.2671.2182
2284DCA_se2_ag2_m_022671.6045And finally then one day, my father see me running.2673.6468
2286 2674.4815And he say, if you come running home again,2675.8757 
2288 2676.6299you gonna get a beating when you get home, every day that you run.2678.4158 
2290 2679.8706And so that next day, the boy came after me,2681.8664 
2292 2682.4014I started to run.2683.2594 
2294 2684.4858And I seen my father,2685.4836 
2296 2686.3136and so at that time, I stopped and turned around.2688.3688 
2298 2688.9750The boy caught me and raised his fists and got ready to hit me.2691.2318 
2300 2691.6235We got into a little scuffle.2692.9291 
2302 2693.5913End up I was able to beat the boy. [<laugh>]2696.0241 
2304DCA_se2_ag2_m_022696.4578And then it was my turn to do some b-2697.8567
2306 2698.0059do some chasing [for awhile, you know?]2699.7171 
2308DCA_se2_ag2_m_022700.0657But it really shocked me that I really could whip the boy.2702.3319
2310 2702.7049And ever since that day,2703.5209 
2312 2703.7681I never been afraid of anyone,2704.8685 
2314 2705.0317you know?2705.5120 
2316 2705.9725I never run from anyone, let nothing scare me like that.2707.8143 
2319 2710.7240/not/ for a year and a half.2711.9316 
2321DCA_int_012713.9542Must have been a great day.2714.9008