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1DCA_int_010.0115You remember the kinds of games you played as a kid?2.2847
3 3.0645Say about ten years old?4.3725 
4DCA_se2_ag3_m_025.3718Um, about ten? Uh6.9071
6 8.0087yeah,8.6557 
8 9.3306played9.8027 
10 10.7076basketball,11.4875 
12 12.4877baseball, I /did/ really like.14.0491 
13DCA_int_0114.3054Mm-hm.14.7880
14DCA_se2_ag3_m_0214.7810And,15.3825
15 17.5088and18.4425
17 20.6449Ice Pick,21.1799 
19 21.2674what you call mumblety peg, you know.23.1040 
20DCA_int_0123.0569Mm.23.3237
21DCA_se2_ag3_m_0224.7252And uh25.5051
23 27.3411Hide and Go Seek.28.4069 
25 31.2501Uh, that's about the onliest games I really liked.33.1692 
26DCA_int_0133.2251Good.33.4629
28 34.3792Uh, how about Hide and Go Seek, how did that work?36.6174 
29DCA_se2_ag3_m_0238.1693Well um38.8442
31 40.1871one person taking-41.2678 
33 41.9419hide they face, you know,43.1659 
35 43.3722behind a tree or something.44.5787 
37 45.2886And uh45.9881 
39 46.7391the rest go out and hide. If you can-48.3513 
41 49.2501if you can get back to the tree before51.1622 
43 51.2811he get back to the tree. In other words, he's counting you know?53.9179 
44DCA_int_0154.0578Mm-hm.54.4215
45DCA_se2_ag3_m_0254.9977And uh, if you can get back to the tree before he can, then you safe. But if he catches you58.6173
47 58.7187off base and he see's you, then uh60.5084 
49 60.7497you're out.61.1973 
50DCA_int_0161.7499Good.62.0227
52 62.5857Uh how do you pick the guy that's gonna hide his eyes?64.9175 
53DCA_se2_ag3_m_0266.7255Uh67.6313
55 69.0433well he just uh,69.8756 
57 70.7324when the game first started uh72.6663 
59 73.2705what he do is he taking uh74.5260 
61 74.7953/kind of old game to me/.75.6975 
62DCA_int_0176.1137Then you tag 'em?76.7642
63DCA_se2_ag3_m_0277.0606Yeah,77.5607
65 77.7810yeah.78.2111 
67 79.3652Well n- n-80.0332 
69 80.1136just like playing um81.2852 
71 81.5125who gonna be first up at bat, you know.83.3266 
72DCA_int_0183.3473Uh-huh.83.6539
73DCA_se2_ag3_m_0283.7323They take a stick and84.6556
75 85.1312goes up to bat, [and] whoever86.7005 
76DCA_int_0186.1087[Right.]86.3860
77DCA_se2_ag3_m_0286.8544you know, can hold on then,88.4456
79 88.9108that's it.89.4458 
80DCA_int_0191.2425Uh, do you remember ever using any rhymes93.9528
82 94.1347on people's toes or on their hands?96.1649 
84 97.1414You know, like Tarzan was in a tree and he fell out, anything like that?100.3195 
85DCA_se2_ag3_m_02103.0682Uh, no sir. No rhymes.104.5502
86DCA_int_01104.5991Didn't use those?105.3370
87DCA_se2_ag3_m_02105.6308No sir.106.0644
88DCA_int_01106.5645Okay uh107.4738
90 108.0718how about mumblety peg? How do you play that?109.9175 
92 111.3968[With the ice pick?]112.2256 
93DCA_se2_ag3_m_02111.4422[W-]111.9493
94 112.3690well uh113.2818
96 113.5816you get in the uh,114.5923 
98 115.0050you get in a tree box, you know,116.5158 
100 117.1802and117.5474 
102 118.0502you just throws the ice pick up.119.4351 
104 120.3828It's all kind of ways you gotta use it on your hand, you know?122.8439 
106 123.2951Throws it up,123.9560 
108 124.3652and it sticks,125.0506 
110 125.3129you-125.6137 
112 125.7676you uh-126.2782 
114 126.3796you go all the way127.1200 
116 127.4838and long as the ice pick stick uh- in a ways129.6870 
118 129.8164and in a- um130.6662 
120 131.1445sequence you hold it on your hand, see?132.8581 
121DCA_int_01132.8441Mm-hm.133.6065
122DCA_se2_ag3_m_02134.1311Uh134.7291
124 135.5221and anytime-136.3160 
126 136.5398anytime you miss from sticking then it's the other guy's go, you know?139.5508 
127DCA_int_01139.7350Mm-hm.140.0750
128DCA_se2_ag3_m_02139.9704And whoever taken140.8404
129 141.5224what you call the last of it, is Spank the Baby.143.9844
131 144.5676Whoever goes out with Spank the Baby then he wins the game.147.1590 
132DCA_int_01147.4420Oh.147.8301
134 148.0505Good.148.4142 
136 149.5816Uh149.9628 
138 150.2458you say you really liked baseball?151.7146 
139DCA_se2_ag3_m_02152.0888Oh yeah, mm-hm.152.9981
140DCA_int_01153.3015Where did you play baseball? Did you- were you on a155.2844
142 155.6971organized team, or156.7812 
144 157.3127just a bunch of kids getting together?158.8332 
145DCA_se2_ag3_m_02159.2458Well uh, I played for uh, um, Francis, the school I used to go for in Georgetown.163.5675
147 163.7353For-163.9836 
148DCA_int_01163.8330Oh really?164.2914
149DCA_se2_ag3_m_02164.4523Uh-huh.164.8230
150DCA_int_01165.0678What [position] were you?166.2238
151DCA_se2_ag3_m_02165.4524[Yeah.]165.8336
152 166.6091Uh, short stop.167.5044
153DCA_int_01169.2565[Pretty good hitter?]170.0644
154DCA_se2_ag3_m_02169.3579[And-]170.0713
155 170.3022yeah, I was a170.9876
157 171.2009pretty good hitter.171.7596 
159 172.0464And uh172.7353 
161 172.8472I played for All Star in- when I was in the Service.175.1554 
162DCA_int_01175.3617No kidding.175.9702
163DCA_se2_ag3_m_02176.0183Mm-hm.176.4485
164DCA_int_01177.1584Competition's pretty tough in the Service.178.6867
165DCA_se2_ag3_m_02178.8615Yeah, it was.179.6099
166DCA_int_01180.9205Were there any professionals in it?182.5921
168 182.8999[Sometimes /unintelligible/.]184.9038 
169DCA_se2_ag3_m_02183.1097[Yeah, uh-huh.]184.0959
171 184.4631Some were- were- were-185.6863 
172 186.0815were very good sandlotters anyway, if not /profse-/188.7043
174 188.9317professional.189.5332 
175DCA_int_01189.5918Mm-hm.190.0779
177 191.2284And you were on the All Star192.5679 
178DCA_se2_ag3_m_02192.7847Mm-hm.193.1869
179DCA_int_01193.4154team /??/.194.2628
181 195.4102Did you ever think about going into professional?197.4630 
182DCA_se2_ag3_m_02197.7743No. Uh, I wasn't that good. [<laugh>]201.9980
183DCA_int_01200.3054[<laugh>]201.7707
184 202.8924You're a lot closer to it than I am.204.7494
186 206.3791Did you have pretty good teams in high school?208.2912 
187DCA_se2_ag3_m_02208.5220Yeah,208.8228
189 209.0011pretty good. Uh-huh.209.9908 
190DCA_int_01212.5044Oh, that's alright.213.6865
192 215.3022Did you ever play marbles?216.5262 
193DCA_se2_ag3_m_02217.3786Mm-218.0746
195 218.2354I never did like the game too much.219.7042 
197 219.9071I- I uh played but221.1206 
199 222.0605I didn't have too keen an eye on223.4628 
201 224.0329keeping the marbles in the ring, you know, keep me a226.4241 
203 226.9382lead shooter in the rings, so I never did mess with it. Any game I wasn't too good at, I didn't like it at all you know?231.8648 
204DCA_int_01232.0117Yeah.232.3824
205DCA_se2_ag3_m_02232.3754[<laugh>]233.9247
206DCA_int_01233.5050[I think] most people feel that way.235.4705
207 236.2424Do kids around here, as far as you know, play any games with bottle caps?240.0220
208DCA_se2_ag3_m_02241.4139Wait, who's them?242.0818
209DCA_int_01242.1903Bottle caps.243.0156
211 243.7946Off of pop bottles, or anything?245.5152 
212DCA_se2_ag3_m_02246.6693Not as I knows of.248.6513
214 249.3822Uh, only thing they get bottle tops in there for is they get they um252.8436 
216 253.1338pictures out the- out the uh back of it. You know? [All the] ball players and256.5156 
217DCA_int_01255.2116[Mm-hm.]255.5673
218DCA_se2_ag3_m_02257.2037I think they have football players and258.8438
220 259.0642when the season,260.0294 
222 260.2707you know, whatever season is in.261.6687 
224 262.7248And um263.3124 
226 263.8474they save them up, and I guess they get a prize for 'em when they take them back to the store if they get so many.267.7424 
227DCA_int_01268.0480Oh.268.3252
229 269.5155You ever heard of a game called Skelzies?271.4066 
231 272.7985Did you ever hear of that /RD-NAME-1/?273.9351 
232DCA_se2_ag3_m_02273.9455[No.]274.5191
233DCA_int_01274.2148[/unintelligible/]274.9912
234misc274.9973/unintelligible/275.9206
236 276.3857Bottle tops in New York, yes.278.2217 
237DCA_int_01279.2324What do [they do?]279.9450
238misc279.4763[Like] little blocks.280.5640
239DCA_int_01281.1585Mm-hm.281.5502
240misc281.8544And uh, try to pluck each283.4142
242 284.8856top off of the block,285.9103 
244 286.1096and that's it.286.6762 
245DCA_int_01287.2182Oh.287.5470
247 288.7701Kids we interviewed in New York last week had a game called Skelzies. I never could understand, s-293.1687 
249 293.7632something about throwing bottle caps in a box or something.296.0434 
250misc296.1098Mm, no I never heard of it.297.2464
251DCA_se2_ag3_m_02297.4484<laugh>297.9764
252DCA_int_01298.9347I never did either.299.8719
254 300.9875Okay, Mr. /RD-NAME-1/, uh, what's your favorite TV303.4102 
256 303.8229show? Do you have a favorite?305.1063 
257DCA_se2_ag3_m_02305.8932Uh306.4807
259 306.9520yeah. McHale's Navy.308.2144 
261 308.2774[<laugh>]309.1517 
262DCA_int_01308.4697[Oh yeah?]309.2006
263DCA_se2_ag3_m_02309.5329[<laugh>]311.0437
264DCA_int_01309.9246[/inaudible/]310.9562
265 312.1164Do you remember an episode that happened?314.0539
267 314.8197Uh in that that was particularly funny that stuck in your mind?317.7088 
269 318.8791One ?-319.1344 
270DCA_se2_ag3_m_02319.0994Uh,319.7219
271 321.1899uh, ye- well all of 'em is very funny323.3162
273 323.4455really because uh324.5681 
275 325.1688Binghamton, he's always trying to get McHale <laugh> out the Navy or off his [post or] something. You know, and all of 'em is real funny.331.4803 
276DCA_int_01329.4309[<laugh>]329.8816
277DCA_se2_ag3_m_02332.1658But um332.7568
279 333.2280let's see. One that stuck in my mind was uh335.4068 
281 336.5434where he's um-337.8373 
283 338.6163he's up there taking a bath, you know? It was in- in this um341.5400 
285 341.7323uh342.0436 
287 342.1170combat zone.343.0289 
288DCA_int_01343.2246Mm-hm.343.5486
289DCA_se2_ag3_m_02343.7808And he had got him a bathtub from somewhere you know?346.6765
291 347.2701And he's /a bit/ taking this bath in this bathtub and-349.9385 
293 350.5295and, uh, McHale came in. He got so excited352.9766 
295 353.7425that-354.0328 
297 354.3300that uh,354.9001 
299 355.0470his uh355.5925 
301 355.7464assistant took and hit the bathtub and he took and roll out all the way in the street in his bathtub. <laugh>360.6206 
303 360.8261<laugh>361.6969 
304DCA_int_01363.0922What happened after that?364.1799
305DCA_se2_ag3_m_02365.3366Oh it was a big mess, you know.366.7809
307 367.3649And uh367.9769 
309 368.1868they um,368.7883 
311 369.7561and they uh uh370.8787 
313 371.0850Admiral, he came along /about/ the same time he was out there with no clothes and [everything on], you know.375.5291 
314DCA_int_01374.4205<laugh>375.1549
315DCA_se2_ag3_m_02376.1411And he was getting some kind of /cane/377.7568
317 378.3408McHale always went out open though. <laugh>381.2041 
318DCA_int_01381.4000Yeah, he never-382.1134
320 382.2848Binghamton always gets the worst of it.384.4417 
322 384.8718How about movies?385.8370 
324 386.3756Do you-387.0156 
326 387.3505can you remember a movie that was especially good?389.7215 
327DCA_se2_ag3_m_02390.4455Uh391.1554
329 392.7527well um393.4661 
331 394.0467this one I just went to see not too long ago.396.0191 
332DCA_int_01402.0031/??/402.5218
333DCA_se2_ag3_m_02404.5889Uh405.1800
335 408.0048cause I- I very seldom go the movie. I mostly watch TV all the time, you know.411.6480 
337 412.2600But we did go see a picture um-414.0296 
339 415.1373you know that picture down at the uh416.8404 
341 418.0225Lowe's Palace?419.0332 
343 422.4036About uh two weeks ago.423.8051 
344misc425.1830/Moose/.425.8824
345DCA_se2_ag3_m_02428.4240I know there was a lot of shooting in it.429.6235
346DCA_int_01430.6552It wasn't the Wild Bunch, was it?431.6973
347DCA_se2_ag3_m_02431.7848Yeah, the Wild Bunch.432.6232
349 432.7526That's it.433.2457 
351 433.4695Mm-hm.433.9871 
353 434.4208The Wild Bunch.435.2776 
354DCA_int_01436.1729That's the one /RD-NAME-1/ was gonna tell me about.437.8681
355DCA_se2_ag3_m_02438.0185<laugh>438.6025
357 439.1586Oh man, that thing was440.2042 
359 440.4700deadly.441.0576 
361 441.4178Mm!441.7630 
362DCA_int_01441.8226What did they do?442.4660
363misc442.5290<laugh>443.7006
364DCA_se2_ag3_m_02444.0992Oh, they took-444.8196
366 444.8931hm, at the end of the picture it was just too much shooting and /there was/ too much killing, you know.448.2530 
367DCA_int_01448.3899Uh-huh.448.7404
368DCA_se2_ag3_m_02449.1413And uh449.9456
370 450.1205it kind of make you sick on your stomach for a little bit. <laugh>452.3299 
372 452.4592Did you see it /RD-NAME-1/?453.0782 
373misc453.0258/unintelligible/ [Yeah I saw it.] <laugh>455.4625
374DCA_se2_ag3_m_02453.9805[<laugh>]454.5680
375 455.5184Goodness456.1374
377 456.3123gracious.456.8613 
379 457.3230Blood splattering every which way, you know.459.1835 
381 459.9660And uh460.5675 
383 461.9593And uh, um463.2113 
385 464.1092I mean they was even shooting women and everything in the picture you know.466.6167 
387 466.7426<laugh>468.1345 
388DCA_int_01468.2147Mm-hm.468.6280
390 469.8612How does it start?470.6411 
392 471.1692What was the story of it?472.2953 
393DCA_se2_ag3_m_02472.6371Uh473.1687
395 473.9241well he was gonna rob his train when-475.4908 
396misc476.5155No, bank.477.2534
397DCA_se2_ag3_m_02477.6617Yeah, rob the bank.478.4381
399 478.6199Yeah.479.1340 
400misc479.1970[And they] /train/480.1167
401DCA_se2_ag3_m_02479.2357[Uh-huh.]479.6699
402misc480.1972uh, the, uh this fella's-481.8723
404 482.1022was482.5044 
406 484.1446uh, a agent485.4386 
408 485.8652for this486.4317 
410 487.0814train company, or whatever it is.488.3998 
411DCA_se2_ag3_m_02488.4208Yeah, well anyway, they was in the bank already when the picture started, you know,491.6583
413 492.1234and they was up on top of this roof waiting for him to come out.494.6344 
415 495.6162And by the time they was coming out, this um497.8579 
417 498.3615uh498.7637 
419 498.8476church chorus was coming down the street singing.501.0954 
421 502.0327And shoot, they didn't care about that. When they came out of there, they just started shooting.505.3227 
423 506.0990And everybody went.507.3650 
425 507.4699<laugh>509.2535 
427 509.5709Shotguns and /glasses/, /unintelligible/ take you.512.0574 
429 512.2987Shotgun take and pick up a /kid/ clean- throw him clean across the street, /wasn't it Frank?/516.1021 
430DCA_int_01516.2329<laugh>516.5662
431DCA_se2_ag3_m_02516.6658The whole /head/'ll [be laying] off /at the end of the street/.518.7667
432DCA_int_01517.2007[/unintelligible/]517.5617
433DCA_se2_ag3_m_02519.5641Mm!519.8648
434misc519.7774They showed all of it,520.4838
435 520.7881you know,521.3092
437 521.4071it was really something.522.3933 
438DCA_se2_ag3_m_02522.5218It sure is.523.2003
439DCA_int_01523.6689What happened after the bank robbery?524.8649
440DCA_se2_ag3_m_02526.0749Well, you know, they was tryna get away from then on, and they was after 'em.529.0467
442 529.7846And this guy uh,531.2044 
444 531.7316I think he used to run with the gang before,533.9454 
446 534.5853and uh they put him on it.536.4420 
448 536.9975Anyway537.5816 
450 537.9942they- he was going-539.0469 
452 539.1937going back to jail he didn't catch 'em, you know?541.1478 
454 541.6514And that was all his uh intention was to just-544.3162 
456 544.6660just catch 'em and most of 'em was his buddies, you know.546.7459 
457DCA_int_01546.7962Mm-hm.547.1722
458DCA_se2_ag3_m_02547.7041But they um548.4420
460 548.8407uh549.3513 
462 550.2632they got m- mixed up with these Mexicans552.2986 
464 553.0330in Mexico, and uh554.2316 
466 554.9835and555.3892 
468 556.0187they wanted the gun. They wanted some guns from another train, and559.4136 
470 560.1655and uh,560.9943 
472 561.5329and so they say they would get 'em for 'em, you know?563.7445 
474 563.8996These banks had been robbed, the bank- well they tried to rob the bank. I don't think they got away with no money because they dropped all the money, you know, getting out of town.569.2774 
476 570.4420And so, they needed some money, so they said they would /give/ 'em so much gold573.9383 
478 574.1866they'd uh, get these rifles for 'em.575.7113 
480 576.7212And so this train's coming by, and they578.7285 
482 579.4105all taken-580.0959 
484 580.2008hijack the train,581.5569 
486 581.7177got the rifles,582.7669 
488 583.3474and then n-584.1098 
490 584.1868then the Mexican government didn't want to pay, didn't want to give them the gold. [<laugh>]588.2426 
491DCA_int_01587.3717[<laugh>]588.1146
492DCA_se2_ag3_m_02588.4769/Thought/ he was keeping the rifles out of town, sending them on back to the /time/, you know.591.6410
494 591.9173As they /unintelligible/ and they'll them so much gold, you know?593.9631 
495DCA_int_01593.9782Uh-huh.594.3142
496DCA_se2_ag3_m_02595.2632And this young boy596.5782
498 597.4982that was with they uh598.4561 
500 598.5366with these uh bandits, you know.599.9241 
502 600.4207Uh600.9732 
504 601.8056he uh,602.5295 
506 603.1765he's seen his girlfriend going with one of the605.2284 
508 605.3928high- high up uh, you know,607.2568 
510 607.9204one of the one's that um,609.0220 
512 610.3160uh uh611.2812 
514 611.5854one of the colonels or something, anyway. He was high ranking in the [Mexican government.]614.7600 
515misc613.9766[He was] trying to take over.615.3440
516DCA_se2_ag3_m_02615.8686Yeah.616.3792
518 616.9833And617.3226 
520 617.4555he took and618.0150 
522 618.2283shot the girl619.1226 
524 619.6167while he was- she was sitting in his arms you know?621.7630 
525misc622.1246/unintelligible/622.5745
526DCA_se2_ag3_m_02622.8647<laugh> And boy he didn't- he really didn't like that you know?625.6450
528 626.0533But they got him off the hook, but627.2773 
530 627.7739then when628.3999 
532 628.7146they came back to get the money for the gold,630.3933 
534 631.1723uh631.7183 
536 632.2179uh the boy- the young boy came in last.634.6619 
538 635.2142And so they kept him in town, then they drug him off.637.7986 
540 637.9280Yeah,638.2007 
542 638.3861took638.5679 
544 639.0541drug him all down639.9240 
546 640.4066through town on- in his car. Uh I think that was about the first car was ever made in Mexico. [<laugh>]644.8157 
547DCA_int_01644.3244[<laugh>]645.3647
548DCA_se2_ag3_m_02645.3892But he- it was, you know, it was really-647.0084
550 647.0923it was really nice in the648.1275 
552 648.4344they was just drag him all around649.6724 
554 649.7458town. Anyway it was this big celebration cause they had got these guns anyway, you know.653.4310 
555DCA_int_01655.3684Was that the end?656.0958
556DCA_se2_ag3_m_02656.8582No, well um657.9099
558 659.4068uh660.1132 
560 661.1519at the end it was all this shooting started, you know.663.6725 
562 663.7634When they try to go and rescue this665.4001 
564 665.5400young boy back from uh667.1373 
566 667.4626they got tired, you know,668.4907 
568 668.5747and dragging him around the street cause he's almost dead anyway.671.1171 
570 671.9066But it was-672.3857 
572 672.4731gonna try to get him back you know. These uh, friends of his, you know, that had675.5428 
574 676.0988you know, got the guns for this uh Mexican government, and uh678.5049 
576 679.9204and uh, uh when they681.2143 
578 681.8823start- when they came in, /they's in/683.8093 
580 684.7911and they say well, we want685.8962 
582 686.3159whatever his name was, I done forgot his name.687.9246 
584 688.5226Anyways he said689.5604 
586 690.1759this is how the colonel say well I'm'a give it to him.692.3651 
588 693.2044So he took and walked over there,694.4975 
590 694.6689took his knife out and took him,695.8404 
592 696.2426cut his throat and shoved him too <laugh>, say698.5429 
594 698.8262and that's when the shooting start.699.9662 
596 700.8510And then on, it was just blasting, you know.702.8016 
598 704.1410And uh704.7355 
600 705.5119she- when the-706.1519 
602 706.3897when the posse got there707.5953 
604 707.7667everybody was just about dead. [<laugh>]710.3127 
605DCA_int_01709.5433[<laugh>]710.4001
606DCA_se2_ag3_m_02710.6449/Only/ about- about one or two guys left, wasn't it?712.3627
607misc712.3883/unintelligible/713.2083
608DCA_se2_ag3_m_02713.2914So they ain't had nothing to get- take and pick up nowhere, you know?715.6589
609DCA_int_01715.7101<laugh>715.9394
610DCA_se2_ag3_m_02717.0815They was laying all over the place.718.5223
611DCA_int_01718.5637That's something else.719.2952
613 721.0674Okay, good. Uh what about -722.4697 
614DCA_se2_ag3_m_02722.5082Now I told you about it, you don't want to go see it. <laugh>726.3018
615DCA_int_01728.0189Did you- did you like it, or did you think [/inaudible/?]730.2807
616DCA_se2_ag3_m_02729.6477[Oh] it was alright til the end. I think there was just too much killing at the end, you know?733.0679
617DCA_int_01735.4172Okay.735.9278
619 736.2006Um736.5363 
621 739.3367do you remember uh another TV show that- that you liked? Do you remember the episode of that?743.8996 
623 745.4041Um, I don't know746.3129 
625 746.8407The Mod Squad, The Outcasts?749.2564 
626DCA_se2_ag3_m_02749.7880Oh yeah. I- I- I dig The Mod Squad too yeah.752.1932
628 753.2563Yeah um753.9802 
630 754.3125I watched /that/ um755.6554 
632 755.8582just about every week.756.5751 
634 757.3751But uh757.9172 
636 759.4000it's not none of my favorites, so.760.8338 
638 762.6970Mm, let me see.763.7566 
640 764.3546A episode765.2814 
641DCA_int_01768.0363Did you see it Tuesday?769.1099
642DCA_se2_ag3_m_02769.9309Mm.770.6548
643DCA_int_01771.8210/about that?/772.2597
644DCA_se2_ag3_m_02773.1518No, I- I didn't see it Tuesday.774.7946
646 777.2531But uh777.8616 
648 781.5713I had to go way back anyway.783.0287 
649DCA_int_01783.0720Mm783.3240
651 783.4274Well it's783.9555 
653 784.4066probably pushing too far back. You've given me two good ones anyway.787.5541 
655 788.4310Okay uh789.1409 
657 789.5501do you have a pet?790.2985 
659 790.8755Or did you ever have a pet?792.0331 
660DCA_se2_ag3_m_02793.1548Yeah, I had a dog794.2424
662 794.3019one time.794.8894 
664 795.2881But it's been a long time ago.796.4946 
665DCA_int_01797.0673Was it when you were a youngster?798.2178
666DCA_se2_ag3_m_02798.4032Yeah, mm-hm.799.1446
667DCA_int_01799.6797What did- did he ever do anything that was funny that you remember?802.2492
668DCA_se2_ag3_m_02802.6304Well he was very smart, for his- not too have too much class you know.805.5532
670 805.9554He wasn't no806.4205 
672 806.5569uh806.9486 
674 807.0325Pedigree or nothing like that, you know?808.5153 
675DCA_int_01808.5811Uh-huh.808.9904
676DCA_se2_ag3_m_02809.4176But uh, he was taking a810.6512
678 811.3821uh811.9137 
680 812.0816before /crossing/ this street wait for the light and all that.814.1869 
681DCA_int_01814.2638[No kidding, really?]815.2150
682DCA_se2_ag3_m_02814.3512[Wait for other people.]815.2685
683 815.3436Yeah.815.7632
685 815.9381Wait for other people to start walking before he'll walk across the street.818.9352 
686DCA_int_01819.2486No kidding.819.8126
687DCA_se2_ag3_m_02820.1023He died of old age, you know.821.4278
689 821.6516We had to put him to sleep822.5259 
691 822.6408but822.7624 
693 822.9316uh cause he got too old.823.9597 
695 824.4799But he was just an ordinary dog, you know?826.1446 
696DCA_int_01826.3201Mm-hm.826.6657
698 826.9699How old was he?827.6589 
699DCA_se2_ag3_m_02828.5288Oh, about829.1898
701 830.7670about sixteen, seventeen years.832.6800 
702DCA_int_01832.7131Mm-hm.833.1398
704 834.3927Did he know any tricks?835.5118 
706 835.9420Anyone ever teach him any?837.0750 
707DCA_se2_ag3_m_02837.2945No, I never teach him none, but at the time uh, um840.3440
709 841.8758mm842.6128 
711 843.9208mm, uh, I mean, you know,845.5645 
713 845.7953like I say he didn't have too much class, no way. We just kept him around the house for mostly his849.7043 
715 850.3197uh850.5610 
717 850.6625pet uh, he was kind of mean too though, but you know.853.1481 
719 855.0602Nothing- nothing very extraordinary about him.857.2424 
720DCA_int_01857.7102Good.858.0675
722 859.4736Okay, uh do you remember what you studied in elementary school?862.4069 
724 863.6379Subjects?864.5227 
725DCA_se2_ag3_m_02865.3297Oh, I liked the History866.5956
727 866.7180most of all you know.867.6868 
729 868.7525And uh869.3086 
731 870.3367and Geography. I like that pretty good.872.3371 
733 873.9415Uh874.8123 
735 875.3333other than that876.0643 
737 876.1762let me see.876.7637 
738DCA_int_01878.5884Anything with numbers?879.9138
739DCA_se2_ag3_m_02881.2987Uh, I mean we did <laugh> some numbers <laugh> cause I never was good at it. {<laugh>}885.7847
740DCA_int_01885.4274[<laugh>] Yeah.886.1474
741DCA_se2_ag3_m_02886.2043Arithmetic, that's one thing I wasn't good at at all.888.8508
742DCA_int_01889.0171Mm-hm.889.3438
744 891.1511Okay uh892.0289 
746 892.9102what was there about History that894.3126 
748 894.9840fascinated you?896.2630 
749DCA_se2_ag3_m_02897.1479Oh, I guess uh, uh898.7881
751 899.1378the nouns, the pronouns, and the uh901.6654 
753 901.7703compositions.902.6618 
754DCA_int_01902.8684Mm-hm.903.3161
756 903.9729Good.904.2033 
758 905.9660Um906.5256 
760 907.3824what about in uh high school?908.9002 
762 909.6337What did you take there?910.5115 
763DCA_se2_ag3_m_02911.2319Uh911.8265
765 912.4594most time I stayed in the shop, the electrics /they/-914.6058 
767 915.3193I took /electrics/ there- there because, um,917.3896 
769 917.6379you know it was um918.5681 
771 919.1058it was on- on the schedule for me to take it, but I didn't like it, but I really921.9386 
773 922.1484you know922.4806 
775 922.8924got interested in that uh924.1444 
777 924.6935as I taking it.925.3404 
779 926.3301And uh926.8337 
781 927.7631I got to-928.1653 
783 928.3017uh, know it928.9696 
785 929.2529pretty good because that's what they put me in when I went into the Service. They [uh]932.5779 
786DCA_int_01932.0603[Oh really?]932.6303
787DCA_se2_ag3_m_02932.7282Mm-hm. In uh933.4836
789 933.9907in the /?/ section.934.9420 
791 935.5784But, I mean, it wasn't nothing much to it like uh, a line get knocked out or something, you know, up on-940.0679 
793 940.6476up on a line, we had to go up there and fix it and things like that you know.943.3509 
795 943.8615Wasn't no big thing.944.8093 
797 945.7806And uh946.3017 
799 946.6199hook up947.0326 
801 947.5047you know947.8684 
803 948.1272from- like we run new lines from new companies and places like that.951.4871 
804DCA_int_01951.6757Mm-hm.952.1301
806 954.1655Mm-hm. Good.954.7775 
808 955.3192Were you in the Army, or?956.2249 
809DCA_se2_ag3_m_02956.9209Army.957.3650
810DCA_int_01960.1514What did uh,960.8648
812 961.1376kids when you were961.9245 
814 962.6624a youngster, what they do when school was out?964.4905 
816 965.9978Say first /around/?967.1764 
817DCA_se2_ag3_m_02967.7534Yeah well mostly- everybody come home, change clothes and then get on- go to the basketball court and play basketball.973.2842
818DCA_int_01973.4095Mm-hm.973.7296
820 973.9626Was this in high school or elementary school?975.7392 
821DCA_se2_ag3_m_02976.4491In-976.8828
823 977.3890in high school.978.1934 
824DCA_int_01979.2110Do the kids do anything different in elementary school?981.5157
825DCA_se2_ag3_m_02982.2038Well982.6164
827 982.7248what do you mean, now?983.6656 
828DCA_int_01984.0992Yeah, no, when [you were /inaudible/]985.4467
829DCA_se2_ag3_m_02984.6693[When I was coming up?]985.5261
830 986.2911Uh986.7212
832 988.9489well them hoodlums was.990.2149 
834 990.3120[<laugh>]992.1130 
835DCA_int_01990.7316[<laugh>]992.1270
836DCA_se2_ag3_m_02992.2634<laugh>993.4839
838 994.5007I- in995.3470 
840 995.5044we, like me and /RD-NAME-1/ here, we did live in a kind of a ghetto area, you know? <laugh>1000.1653 
842 1000.6934We stay in a little /mischief/ <laugh>1003.4526 
844 1003.8400when we wasn't on the playground playing, but we try and stay on the playground most of the time, you know,1007.8862 
846 1007.9736playing. I did anyway, and /RD-NAME-1/ did too.1009.9557 
848 1010.7320/So there/.1011.1202 
849DCA_int_011012.8644Were you1013.2876
851 1014.4731were you in the Eighteenth Street Comanches?1016.3476 
852DCA_se2_ag3_m_021016.4840Yeah.1017.0995
853DCA_int_011018.5989It's a friend of yours from way back?1020.1027
854DCA_se2_ag3_m_021020.3825Mm-hm. Long time.1021.4282
855DCA_int_011022.3331And what about nowadays? Do1023.6900
857 1024.0082uh, young kids in elementary school do anything different?1026.7395 
859 1026.9065that what they did when you were coming up?1028.3299 
860DCA_se2_ag3_m_021028.5152Well uh, um1029.9071
862 1030.0120like my kids now they come home from school and uh1032.4207 
864 1033.1621uh1033.8265 
866 1034.0119I just got 'em1034.7568 
868 1035.1974a couple of bicycles uh1036.7598 
870 1037.0536back in June, and they1038.4315 
872 1038.5434jumps on the bicycle and go riding mostly.1040.7807 
874 1041.5116And they go down to the playground too mostly, and swing on swing, cause they ain't but ten and eight you know.1045.3724 
875DCA_int_011045.4300Mm-hm.1045.7740
876DCA_se2_ag3_m_021047.2041So they still in uh1048.2463
878 1048.9099elementary.1049.6128 
879DCA_int_011050.6847Good.1051.0175
880DCA_se2_ag3_m_021051.1166But it's not- I don't think it's too much different.1053.0750
882 1053.7526Uh1054.2702 
884 1054.6304from the time when we was coming up. Only thing uh1056.7007 
886 1056.9875it's a lot of bad kids now, really, you know.1058.8821 
888 1059.7774And uh1060.1656 
890 1060.6447they don't- they don't play uh1062.0820 
892 1062.8086like we used to play on the playground you know.1064.4243 
894 1065.0328Most of 'em have bicycles and ride bicycles. I see m- you know, all in the street now.1068.8543 
895DCA_int_011069.1406Mm-hm.1069.5566
897 1070.8267Oh, that's good.1071.5262 
899 1072.8892Did you ever a teacher that hollered a lot that you can remember?1075.8478 
900DCA_se2_ag3_m_021077.0185What? At the class, uh [at a certain- certain person?]1079.9981
901DCA_int_011078.4558[/inaudible/]1080.0471
902 1080.6407Either one.1081.1863
903DCA_se2_ag3_m_021082.2354Yeah we had uh1083.3300
904DCA_int_011083.7672Mostly an individual.1084.9877
905DCA_se2_ag3_m_021085.0113Uh1085.6443
907 1085.8367this is Miss /RD-NAME-3/, uh1087.0921 
909 1087.4593/unintelligible/1088.4001 
911 1089.7981in high school,1090.5815 
913 1090.9906the music teacher.1091.9034 
915 1092.7602She used to holler cause she had good lungs anyway, by being a -1095.2458 
917 1095.6725a music teacher <laugh>.1097.7638 
919 1097.9168<laugh>1099.1968 
921 1099.7178And boy she's1100.7040 
923 1100.7950old and kind of crabby, too, you know.1102.8260 
924DCA_int_011102.8225Mm-hm.1103.3156
925DCA_se2_ag3_m_021103.4310So she used to do a /unintelligible/ scream in it1105.3474
927 1105.4838uh,1105.8300 
929 1105.8965children you know especially, when they wasn't doing no work1107.8820 
930DCA_int_011110.0223Did- d-1110.5224
932 1110.6448uh1111.0645 
934 1111.4876did you ever get it personally?1112.8926 
935DCA_se2_ag3_m_021113.3333Yeah, I- I've got it personally too,1115.3336
937 1115.5260you know.1115.9142 
938DCA_int_011116.8928[/inaudible/]1117.3852
939DCA_se2_ag3_m_021117.0289[Like] uh1117.6934
940 1118.5607like uh- like I said she's being old, and1121.0646
942 1121.7737and sometimes she would wait1123.1621 
944 1123.8825maybe uh, we came in- came in the room1125.8156 
946 1125.9380from another class about.1127.0151 
948 1127.4627She'd be about1127.9031 
950 1128.0084ten minutes before she come in the room and1129.4802 
952 1129.5943everybody be in the room in an uproar. You know how you [first come] to class and the teacher's not in there, you [know.]1133.8827 
953DCA_int_011132.0200[Mm-hm.]1132.3293
955 1133.7196[Mm-hm.]1134.1052 
956DCA_se2_ag3_m_021134.5533Well now you gonna take it and uh1135.8193
958 1136.3089be talking or something and she'll come in and scream about you.1138.7744 
959DCA_int_011139.7146Mm-hm.1140.0777
961 1141.8843[/inaudible/]1142.5992 
962DCA_se2_ag3_m_021141.9594[But wh-] generally when she screamed she put up for /down/, she meant business, and we all got quiet.1146.6308
963 1146.9001<laugh>1148.3715
964DCA_int_011150.0851Was it fair? What she hollered about or do you think it just-1152.7421
965DCA_se2_ag3_m_021152.7281Yeah it was- it was- n- nine times out of ten it was fair.1155.4804
966DCA_int_011155.5480Mm-hm.1155.9334
968 1158.0115What about the best /peacher/, teacher you ever had?1160.4875 
970 1161.2595Do you remember any that stick out as-1163.0456 
971DCA_se2_ag3_m_021162.9752Yeah um1164.0048
972 1164.5049when I first came uh1166.0367
974 1166.6898uh, junior high school,1167.8054 
976 1168.4174there was this um1169.5435 
978 1170.3749Science teacher, Miss /RD-NAME-2/.1172.0676 
979DCA_int_011172.4989Mm-hm.1172.8256
980DCA_se2_ag3_m_021173.1797Uh, she um1174.3337
982 1175.0008well1175.4065 
984 1175.5149uh I guess being a Science teacher too, she1177.4838 
986 1177.6657showed you every little thing cause I ain't know nothing about no Science, then, you know.1181.3333 
988 1181.9279I mean never heard of it,1182.9665 
990 1183.1659even the grade of Science, you know.1184.8402 
992 1185.6165And she had all the /experiments/ she used to go through, and she was taking1188.4073 
994 1189.0254sat right down with you, if you don't understand, you know, and just running right through1191.9141 
996 1192.1274to you. And so you- so she really uh was outstanding teaching1195.4523 
998 1195.8615at Science-1196.5085 
1000 1196.8232Science class, you know.1197.8051 
1002 1198.3227Miss /RD-NAME-2/. You know her Frank?1199.3858 
1003misc1199.9698No, I didn't know her.1200.9420
1005 1201.3687I didn't go to Francis.1202.2150 
1007 1202.5184[/inaudible/]1203.2318 
1008DCA_se2_ag3_m_021202.6653[Uh-huh.]1203.0500
1009 1203.3123Oh yeah.1203.9592
1010DCA_int_011205.1448You think that's uh1206.2744
1012 1207.1338something that would make a good teacher?1208.5851 
1014 1209.0643Taking time to explain-1210.0679 
1015DCA_se2_ag3_m_021210.1414Yeah. Uh-huh. It really was.1211.7912
1016DCA_int_011213.3160What about the worst teacher you ever had?1215.3338
1018 1215.4484Was there ever one?1216.2073 
1019DCA_se2_ag3_m_021216.5150Oh yeah, I had,1217.1165
1020DCA_int_011217.1165stand.1217.6796
1021DCA_se2_ag3_m_021217.9663there was um1218.6343
1023 1219.8784Mr. /RD-NAME-1/.1220.6162 
1025 1221.5326Uh1222.4733 
1027 1222.7706he was uh-1223.5470 
1029 1224.3539he was uh uh-1225.2912 
1031 1225.6024like I say like, elec-1226.3368 
1033 1226.4103uh1227.0048 
1035 1227.2951Electric teacher over there.1228.3337 
1037 1229.6128And1229.9905 
1039 1230.1630he just1230.6620 
1041 1230.8333take and if you got really mean in class, he'll take and hit you with his fist /like he be-/ <laugh>1236.3402 
1043 1236.6701like he be fighting Joe [Louis- <laugh>]1238.7125 
1044misc1237.7790[<laugh>]1239.0947
1045DCA_se2_ag3_m_021239.1461it was like Joe Louis [be fighting. <laugh>]1242.6153
1046misc1240.0974[/unintelligible/]1242.6153
1047DCA_se2_ag3_m_021243.8219Oh he was rough,1244.6985
1049 1245.5751and uh1246.4657 
1051 1246.9880I think that's when I really lost,1248.4288 
1053 1248.5967really lost disinterest in school, you know.1250.5912 
1054DCA_int_011250.7136Mm.1250.9269
1055DCA_se2_ag3_m_021250.9037But I only- I only took one subject from him, and me and him never did have it1253.8972
1056 1253.8972\to1254.2983
1057 1254.2983too bad cause he used to live right next door to me.1256.2136
1058DCA_int_011256.3208Oh really?1256.8524
1059DCA_se2_ag3_m_021256.9363Up there on Eighteenth Street there.1258.2093
1061 1259.6361And uh so1260.5547 
1063 1261.3836well I took and started staying out of school1263.4259 
1065 1263.6404myself, you know.1264.5403 
1066DCA_int_011264.5410Mm-hm.1264.9703
1067DCA_se2_ag3_m_021265.3563I think it was around about the ninth grade. It was alm- it was almost graduating time anyway.1268.7171
1069 1269.7103And uh1270.3445 
1071 1271.0999and he-1271.6361 
1073 1272.4102see my mama, she was working uh,1274.0970 
1075 1274.3907she didn't know I was staying out at the time, see,1276.3190 
1076DCA_int_011276.5937Mm-hm.1276.9576
1077DCA_se2_ag3_m_021277.0486so1277.4916
1079 1277.6268she- he told me to tell /me/ and bring my mama to1279.8592 
1081 1280.7171bring my mama to school you know,1282.2326 
1083 1282.6569after I stayed out so long.1283.7480 
1085 1284.8753And so I told1285.7473 
1087 1285.9291my mama the teacher wanted to see her at school.1287.9746 
1089 1288.4331So she said, don't he live right next door? I told her, yeah, so she said, I'll go right next door. I ain't got time to [walk and go to school. <laugh>]1294.6243 
1090DCA_int_011292.6146[<laugh>]1294.6662
1091DCA_se2_ag3_m_021295.1558So she went over- went over next door and he still wanted her to come to school, so she could talk to the principal and all that, you know.1301.1698
1093 1303.0478So I think he was very mean in a way, you know,1305.5052 
1094DCA_int_011305.7340Mm-hm.1306.1894
1095DCA_se2_ag3_m_021306.4704far as teachers go.1307.6594
1096DCA_int_011308.4370Were you ever in a class where the kids played a trick on the teacher?1311.1601
1098 1311.9994At some point?1312.9553 
1099DCA_se2_ag3_m_021314.2470Uh1314.7412
1101 1315.0059no.1315.8871 
1103 1316.7358Not really, but uh, like uh1318.4005 
1105 1319.3563writing something on the board about 'em,1320.9604 
1107 1321.4628you know,1322.1296 
1109 1322.6565where they would read it but they wouldn't know who done it, like1324.7455 
1111 1324.8947like that, you know?1325.6315 
1112DCA_int_011326.3810How would they react to that mostly?1328.2555
1113DCA_se2_ag3_m_021329.2114Who, the teachers?1329.8969
1114DCA_int_011330.0647Yeah.1330.4144
1116 1330.8481Like getting [mad or just laugh it off ] or what?1332.8345 
1117DCA_se2_ag3_m_021331.4636[Oh yeah, they- they]1332.5687
1118 1333.2017well- well, most of 'em, I mean1334.9130
1120 1335.0809the ones that we played a trick on in school like that, we're writing something on the board about them you know, they'd come up1339.4861 
1122 1339.9524erase the board, and1341.0062 
1124 1341.6031they will be mad but they wouldn't say too much you know.1343.6454 
1125DCA_int_011343.7823Mm-hm.1344.1823
1127 1345.2437How about uh1346.1063 
1129 1347.0669did anyone ever play the old thumb tack trick1349.0206 
1131 1349.6921backside?1349.9625 
1132DCA_se2_ag3_m_021350.1211Put tacks in their seat?1351.1143
1134 1352.8664[No.]1353.3653 
1135DCA_int_011352.9829[Put something] in the drawer, like a snake?1354.7502
1136DCA_se2_ag3_m_021355.2678[<laugh>] No, no.1357.2075
1137DCA_int_011355.9252[/inaudible/]1356.3682
1138DCA_se2_ag3_m_021357.9524Not in none of my classes that I been in.1359.7290
1139DCA_int_011360.0740Okay.1360.6149
1141 1361.9718Um1362.3029 
1143 1364.4047Was there a group of kids that you used to associate with as a kid?1367.8553 
1145 1368.9546Sort of your group?1369.9190 
1146DCA_se2_ag3_m_021372.6010Oh yeah, uh-huh.1373.5335
1148 1376.1343Uh, you mean uh1377.1042 
1150 1377.9761us buddy buddies we run [together, yes.]1379.9206 
1151DCA_int_011379.1838[Yeah.]1379.7201
1152DCA_se2_ag3_m_021380.0465It's around about three1381.1096
1153DCA_int_011381.2530/Special/.1381.5701
1154DCA_se2_ag3_m_021381.5701or four.1382.2509
1155 1382.6705Mm-hm.1383.0855
1156DCA_int_011383.5518Who were they?1384.2186
1158 1385.0812You remember their [names?]1385.9625 
1159DCA_se2_ag3_m_021385.4589You want-1385.8599
1160 1386.0231call the name?1386.6620
1161DCA_int_011386.9452Yeah, can you still recall the [names?]1388.7451
1162DCA_se2_ag3_m_021388.2182[Uh]1388.9596
1163 1389.5518[uh-]1390.1020
1164DCA_int_011389.6404[At least their first] name?1390.5590
1165DCA_se2_ag3_m_021390.7502Ralph1391.4969
1167 1393.2670and1393.6913 
1169 1393.9151Warren1394.5912 
1171 1395.9528and uh1397.0486 
1173 1399.3929and1400.0830 
1175 1400.3161was it-1400.7451 
1177 1401.7430a guy named /RD-NAME-3/.1403.1885 
1178DCA_int_011403.4823Mm-hm.1403.8330
1179DCA_se2_ag3_m_021404.0465About four of us.1404.7133
1180DCA_int_011405.0401Mm-hm.1405.4305
1181DCA_se2_ag3_m_021406.6332[Wa-]1407.0016
1182DCA_int_011406.8151[Was this] when you were in high school or-1408.2139
1183 1409.0346[elementary?]1409.9718
1184DCA_se2_ag3_m_021409.0906[from kids on up.]1409.9159
1185DCA_int_011410.2784All the way through.1411.0991
1186DCA_se2_ag3_m_021411.2483Mm.1411.6727
1187DCA_int_011413.1135Okay, did any of those uh1414.4191
1189 1415.3890any of those guys that you named speak any foreign [language?]1418.1902 
1190DCA_se2_ag3_m_021420.7548I think uh1421.5802
1192 1421.7480/RD-NAME-1/1422.1024 
1194 1422.5967did speak uh French.1424.2555 
1195DCA_int_011424.6285Mm-hm.1425.0605
1196DCA_se2_ag3_m_021424.9037He but the onliest one though.1425.8782
1197DCA_int_011426.6243Did he learn1427.3097
1199 1428.1351in school or1428.8613 
1201 1429.2483at home or where?1430.2229 
1202DCA_se2_ag3_m_021431.0529At school I guess.1432.0601
1204 1432.2839Mm-hm.1432.8015 
1205DCA_int_011434.9173Were there any white kids in that group?1436.5306
1206DCA_se2_ag3_m_021437.4306Mm-mm.1437.8083
1207DCA_int_011439.1325Was there one person1440.2097
1209 1440.5256when you were a kid, that you remember, that everyone considered the leader?1443.6684 
1211 1443.9761And listened to more than, than the rest?1446.7692 
1212DCA_se2_ag3_m_021447.2856Oh yeah, in my gang, mm-hm.1448.4280
1214 1449.5938Uh.1450.1067 
1215DCA_int_011450.0228What was there about him?1450.8854
1216DCA_se2_ag3_m_021452.0744I- it- a cat named Ray, I forget he's-1453.8918
1218 1455.0529He- he was very smart anyway you know,1457.2211 
1219DCA_int_011457.4496Mm-hm.1457.9485
1220DCA_se2_ag3_m_021458.2423and uh1458.9464
1222 1461.2021and everybody just seemed you know1462.4704 
1224 1463.8180take him as a leader because uh he was1465.7473 
1226 1465.8825pretty smart you know.1466.8430 
1227DCA_int_011467.1042Mm-hm.1467.4958
1229 1468.9413Do you remember how he showed his brains?1470.8193 
1230DCA_se2_ag3_m_021472.9923Well by um1473.9808
1232 1475.9718I don't know, everything seemed like he did just came out [right you know?]1478.9689 
1233DCA_int_011478.4844[<laugh>]1478.9470
1234DCA_se2_ag3_m_021479.1741<laugh>1481.3004
1235DCA_int_011482.4650Uh, how would- uh what if someone new moved into the neighborhood?1485.7570
1237 1486.5077Uh1486.8388 
1239 1487.1652was there anyway that they could have gotten into your group?1489.2109 
1240DCA_se2_ag3_m_021490.6892Oh yeah, uh-huh.1491.6684
1241DCA_int_011491.7570What would they have to do?1493.0766
1242DCA_se2_ag3_m_021494.4288Well uh1495.1376
1244 1496.5773uh, just come on in, you know, be a good-1498.2559 
1246 1498.5403be a good uh1499.4496 
1248 1499.8833maybe baseball player or basketball player and1501.8732 
1250 1502.0737play good, you could come right on in.1503.4865 
1251DCA_int_011504.1580What if a kid wasn't1505.0160
1253 1505.7807athletic?1506.3216 
1255 1506.4510Would he be out?1507.2109 
1257 1508.2835Or would he still have a chance to hang with you?1510.2466 
1259 1511.4123Suppose he couldn't dribble, or he couldn't-1513.1644 
1261 1513.6307couldn't hit a ball to save his soul.1515.4352 
1262DCA_se2_ag3_m_021515.6870<laugh>1517.1698
1264 1517.5382No, he- he couldn't go and come in then. [<laugh>]1521.1228 
1265DCA_int_011520.0026[<laugh>]1520.6641
1266 1521.5565But there was no initiation or anything?1523.3780
1267DCA_se2_ag3_m_021523.3004No, no, no initiation.1524.7972
1268DCA_int_011528.2559Uh1528.5543
1270 1529.8879well you're a little young to ask this question to but1532.2602 
1272 1532.6845I'll do it anyway, if you could1533.8036 
1274 1534.3212start over again and,1535.4589 
1276 1536.1071uh, what would you wanna be?1537.6913 
1277DCA_se2_ag3_m_021538.6425If I could1539.1974
1279 1539.3466uh1539.7197 
1280DCA_int_011539.9575Start back in school over again [/and come up/] again.1542.5967
1281DCA_se2_ag3_m_021541.4869[Yeah.]1541.9112
1282 1542.9546Uh1543.4302
1284 1543.9851a professional, um, baseball player.1545.9948 
1285DCA_int_011547.2724You would a- you would go for the-1548.3029
1286DCA_se2_ag3_m_021548.4381Yeah.1548.9604
1287DCA_int_011548.9825/inaudible/1549.2530
1288DCA_se2_ag3_m_021549.2343I really would.1549.8592
1289DCA_int_011552.2885That's good.1552.7781
1291 1553.9858Now what did you1554.7412 
1293 1555.0292wanna be actually1556.4280 
1295 1557.1135when you were coming up? Did you ever have a dream of1559.3470 
1297 1560.6247being a ball player or something else?1562.3814 
1298DCA_se2_ag3_m_021562.6332No, um1563.7616
1300 1565.1372Well I- I- I-1565.9858 
1302 1566.1957I did wanna be a-1567.3836 
1304 1567.9571a doctor1568.8664 
1305DCA_int_011569.1789Mm-hm.1569.5842
1306DCA_se2_ag3_m_021569.8875when I was coming up.1570.7082
1308 1570.9973That's the most important thing, but I never did go far enough in school. <laugh>1574.2555 
1309DCA_int_011574.2136Yeah, that's pretty rough.1575.9855
1310 1577.7154Okay1578.2050
1312 1578.4055uh1578.7599 
1314 1579.7053What is a-1580.2089 
1316 1580.4700I always am curious about this- what is the process1582.8940 
1318 1583.4496that these guys go through to get into professional baseball?1586.1949 
1320 1587.1135[Say /?/ you're pretty good in high school?]1588.7811 
1321DCA_se2_ag3_m_021587.1601[Well, they- they spend]-1588.4844
1322 1589.6548they- they spend uh quite a few years in the Minor,1592.7731
1323DCA_int_011592.8897[How do they get]1593.7243
1324DCA_se2_ag3_m_021593.1135[you know?]1593.6217
1325DCA_int_011594.3631into the [Minor to start] with?1595.8926
1326DCA_se2_ag3_m_021594.8947[Well- well]1595.6408
1327 1596.2330l- uh1596.7412
1329 1596.9546way I- uh-1597.9711 
1331 1598.5679the way I uh, heard about it was uh1600.3025 
1333 1601.4449uh, you gotta-1602.2936 
1335 1602.5174you gotta really know somebody, you know.1604.0877 
1336DCA_int_011604.2415Oh.1604.6472
1337DCA_se2_ag3_m_021604.8856And then you get a try out.1606.3055
1338DCA_int_011606.6995Mm-hm.1607.0169
1339DCA_se2_ag3_m_021607.7154you know,1608.0791
1341 1608.3868like um1609.1982 
1343 1610.2369I think the news give a try out every year, or something like that.1613.2258 
1344DCA_int_011613.3605Mm.1613.5340
1345DCA_se2_ag3_m_021614.1770I don't know what they still do it, I know they used to do.1615.7659
1347 1616.3255And uh1616.8477 
1349 1618.0134and you go have a try out, and then if-1619.7247 
1351 1620.0884if you gotta good,1620.8333 
1353 1620.9732you know,1621.3975 
1355 1622.0690a good backer,1622.9689 
1357 1623.4166somebody who's already in baseball and1625.1637 
1358DCA_int_011625.1493Mm-hm.1625.4386
1359DCA_se2_ag3_m_021625.6734just keep pushing you along, you know.1627.2109
1360DCA_int_011627.5493Mm-hm.1627.9146
1361DCA_se2_ag3_m_021628.6192That's the way you- most of the guys make it.1630.4191
1362DCA_int_011633.5654Uh1634.0364
1364 1634.2555if I could give you all the money you wanted in the world, what would you do with it?1637.8226 
1365DCA_se2_ag3_m_021640.6863Uh1641.1788
1366DCA_int_011641.5378Do you have any idea?1642.4797
1367DCA_se2_ag3_m_021644.3775I would just sit back and enjoy life. [<laugh>]1649.1279
1368DCA_int_011646.2975[<laugh>]1648.9413
1369DCA_se2_ag3_m_021649.5242Wouldn't hit a s-1650.0371
1371 1650.2411you wouldn't hit a1650.9732 
1373 1651.5701wouldn't hit a- a- a nothing at a snake or nothing.1654.1673 
1375 1654.2885[<laugh>]1655.3703 
1376DCA_int_011654.2885[<laugh>]1655.3703
1377DCA_se2_ag3_m_021655.4683He's coming to bite me, I wouldn't hit him. <laugh>1659.2860
1378DCA_int_011660.3585Well, how would you enjoy life?1661.6408
1380 1661.9206What would you buy? What would you spend money on?1663.9639 
1381DCA_se2_ag3_m_021665.4819Oh, I'll buy n-1666.3585
1383 1666.5124nice home1667.4449 
1385 1667.6921and uh,1668.3216 
1387 1669.7892and uh,1670.9083 
1389 1674.2003nice car, you know.1675.3975 
1391 1676.7311All uh- like I say I have all the luxury of life and just sit back and live good.1680.7179 
1392DCA_int_011680.7308Mm-hm.1681.1131
1394 1682.3814That's good.1682.9992 
1396 1684.6522Uh1685.1232 
1398 1685.2911what do you do in a day's work?1686.8806 
1399DCA_se2_ag3_m_021688.6938Wu-1689.0809
1400DCA_int_011689.0389What is your job, and what would be a typical day at work for you?1691.7307
1401DCA_se2_ag3_m_021692.5548Well see I drive truck, you know.1694.0367
1403 1695.3513And uh1695.9575 
1405 1696.3025delivering is mostly, you know,1697.9392 
1407 1698.3111a typical day at work.1699.2043 
1409 1699.3128You unders-1699.6728 
1411 1700.3861I live- I mean I work for a plastic company,1702.7935 
1413 1703.9159and it's not very hard-1704.9324 
1415 1705.2017very hard work cause all it's kind of light, you know.1707.7710 
1416DCA_int_011708.2033Mm.1708.4700
1417DCA_se2_ag3_m_021709.5382And uh1710.3449
1419 1711.0851I enjoy it really, because I get around and see a whole lot of the country, you know.1715.3097 
1420DCA_int_011715.3424Mm-hm.1715.7107
1422 1716.9965So, wha- wha- what would you do when you first get there?1719.3168 
1423DCA_se2_ag3_m_021720.5497Well [uh,]1721.2678
1424DCA_int_011720.8528[Can you describe] a day? Typical-1723.0257
1425DCA_se2_ag3_m_021722.8380When I first get there uh,1724.4234
1426 1724.6332I write up my um-1725.8502
1428 1726.8947I write up my stops first.1728.6153 
1429DCA_int_011728.7670Mm-hm.1729.0959
1430DCA_se2_ag3_m_021729.5328You know, line 'em up1730.6286
1432 1730.7871uh where1731.6964 
1434 1731.8922the uh first stop1733.0812 
1436 1733.6677will be, you know,1734.4195 
1438 1734.9592and the second and the third and go on1736.4933 
1440 1736.6472uh something like about twenty five or thirty stops a day.1739.0346 
1441DCA_int_011739.2226Mm-hm.1739.5146
1442DCA_se2_ag3_m_021740.2983And uh1740.8527
1444 1741.4162I take and write-1742.0177 
1446 1742.1296you have to write 'em all up,1743.1881 
1448 1743.2580you know, on- on-1744.4191 
1450 1744.7082on a time sheet.1745.7137 
1452 1747.3276And uh1747.7706 
1454 1748.9177/he writes/ 'em up and then loads the truck up/1751.0299 
1456 1751.5895after that.1752.1724 
1458 1753.8405And-1754.3534 
1460 1756.3818and then I'm on delivery.1757.4076 
1461DCA_int_011757.9001Mm-hm.1758.2868
1463 1758.9219Somebody work with you, or?1760.1110 
1464DCA_se2_ag3_m_021760.2555Oh yeah.1760.8151
1466 1760.9876Yeah, around about1761.5658 
1468 1762.7408uh1763.4216 
1470 1764.6247twelve guys in the shop.1765.9571 
1472 1767.0809Got-1767.3373 
1473DCA_int_011767.3140I mean when you're brought on delivery or?1768.6149
1474DCA_se2_ag3_m_021768.7642Oh no. Uh-uh. [You by yourself.]1770.4515
1475DCA_int_011769.7387[Are you by yourself?]1770.4732
1476DCA_se2_ag3_m_021770.6142Uh-huh.1770.9557
1477DCA_int_011773.0756Good.1773.3196
1479 1774.5543How does your family celebrate1775.9775 
1481 1776.1980uh1776.4941 
1483 1776.6293the holidays? Christmas in particular.1778.6770 
1484DCA_se2_ag3_m_021779.8269Well um uh,1780.6942
1486 1780.7875Christmas Eve, everybody gets together, the whole family gets together1783.7146 
1488 1784.0084at uh-1784.6239 
1490 1785.2580at1785.5192 
1492 1785.7849uh1786.2233 
1494 1786.5543well, my mother's dead now,1787.8180 
1496 1788.0092and1788.3663 
1498 1788.4386we1788.7086 
1500 1788.9313got together at my mother's house before she died. She died in November.1791.6947 
1501DCA_int_011792.1899Okay.1792.4285
1502DCA_se2_ag3_m_021792.7968And we'd all1793.5522
1504 1793.7480go up there, you know,1794.7739 
1506 1795.2064bring presents and-1796.2555 
1508 1797.2441and everything and have a -1798.4424 
1510 1799.0906have a-1799.9672 
1512 1800.7412have a present-opening, you know.1802.7591 
1513DCA_int_011802.8897Mm-hm.1803.2564
1514DCA_se2_ag3_m_021804.3305And-1804.7548
1516 1806.4754and uh-1807.2109 
1517DCA_int_011808.7601And what about decorations?1810.3305
1518DCA_se2_ag3_m_021811.2118and yeah, well1812.0558
1520 1812.3356and1812.7412 
1522 1812.8531put up a Christmas tree and all that you know.1814.6114 
1523DCA_int_011814.5427Mm-hm.1814.8561
1524DCA_se2_ag3_m_021816.4284And uh1817.3144
1526 1818.4784after that everybody started boozing. <laugh>1819.9258 
1527DCA_int_011820.0434[<laugh>]1821.3700
1528DCA_se2_ag3_m_021820.3398[<laugh>]1822.8839
1529 1823.4767<laugh>1824.2050
1530DCA_int_011824.1863Was there a-1824.9790
1531 1825.8592was there a Christmas dinner?1827.1368
1532DCA_se2_ag3_m_021828.2689Oh yeah but uh1828.9880
1534 1829.5289i- i- it was would just1830.4148 
1536 1830.4988be you know, uh1831.4861 
1538 1831.6960like uh my sister and my mother was very old at the time you know,1834.1253 
1540 1834.8015and they would all bring food and everything like that up there for Christmas dinner, but they wouldn't1838.5185 
1542 1839.1071be around to eat it- eat that night.1840.7408 
1544 1840.9787Uh, Christmas Eve night.1841.9998 
1546 1843.0898And uh1843.6027 
1548 1844.3021Christmas day, well1845.2674 
1550 1845.8036everybody be so choked up over the gifts and everything, they won't be too hungry anyway.1849.3675 
1551DCA_int_011849.4760<laugh>1850.1446
1552DCA_se2_ag3_m_021850.0543<laugh>1850.6379
1553DCA_int_011851.9085Mm.1852.2410
1555 1852.4326Alright.1852.8046 
1557 1854.2936Uh, if you could pick, if you had a rich relative or something,1857.3653 
1559 1857.6404that asked you- this is a little early to ask this- but if they asked you what would-1860.7587 
1561 1861.5747what would you like for Christmas1863.0250 
1563 1863.3106what would you tell 'em?1864.3585 
1564DCA_se2_ag3_m_021866.3577Uh, a home.1867.3276
1565DCA_int_011868.8244You don't play around do you?1870.2373
1566DCA_se2_ag3_m_021870.1253<laugh>1870.9830
1567 1871.2469You rich, you can <laugh>1872.2119
1568DCA_int_011872.2445Yeah1872.6165
1569DCA_se2_ag3_m_021872.6818if you's rich you can afford it <laugh>1875.0902
1570DCA_int_011874.9259He can buy it for you.1876.1813
1571DCA_se2_ag3_m_021876.1207<laugh>1876.8528
1572DCA_int_011877.1232What was the best Christmas you ever got- Christmas present you ever actually got?1881.2114
1574 1881.4073That you remember.1882.1953 
1575DCA_se2_ag3_m_021882.4191A bicycle when I was uh1883.9299
1577 1884.4851about ten or eleven.1885.2903 
1578DCA_int_011885.4935Mm-hm.1885.8477
1580 1886.7171Was it American or English?1888.2279 
1581DCA_se2_ag3_m_021888.3195English bicycle.1889.2071
1582DCA_int_011889.7247That's what I always wanted but never got.1891.8172
1583DCA_se2_ag3_m_021891.8172<laugh>1892.5866
1584DCA_int_011893.3684/Well that's very-/1894.3279
1586 1895.9812Okay, a couple of little more serious questions.1898.9875 
1588 1899.7057Now were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or that you might die?1903.7566 
1589DCA_se2_ag3_m_021903.9618Mm-hm.1904.5166
1591 1905.7383Uh1906.1487 
1593 1906.6709when I was overseas and uh,1908.3915 
1595 1910.5586and we was up, like I said, we- I was in the /Y/ section you know.1914.3915 
1597 1914.8998We was up on the OP and uh1916.5866 
1599 1916.9223a lot of1917.3420 
1601 1917.5565uh1917.7849 
1603 1918.3258mortars started coming in.1919.6874 
1605 1920.3670Only reason I thought it- it was a couple guys got really hurt, and I- I got wounded myself, but uh1925.4822 
1607 1927.0711that's the only time I1928.0084 
1609 1928.1949ever thought I1928.8384 
1611 1929.6311heard the bells ringing. [<laugh>]1931.8646 
1612DCA_int_011930.8390[<laugh>]1931.6848
1613 1933.9618Sometimes people say1935.1694
1615 1935.3466well whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, there's nothing you can do about it.1938.4090 
1616DCA_se2_ag3_m_021938.4976Right.1938.8333
1617DCA_int_011938.9705What [you /inaudible/]1939.7837
1618DCA_se2_ag3_m_021939.1644[I believe in] that.1940.0364
1619DCA_int_011941.8409What if a guy says, well1943.0533
1621 1944.5361I can control1945.7538 
1623 1946.0682my future.1946.9223 
1625 1948.4378What would you-1949.0393 
1627 1949.2864what would you say to him?1950.3309 
1628DCA_se2_ag3_m_021951.2204I would say he's crazy.1952.3441
1629DCA_int_011952.4840<laugh>1953.3093
1630DCA_se2_ag3_m_021953.7989Cause I don't think nobody can control the future.1955.7900
1631DCA_int_011957.8965He says, I'm gonna plan this and plan that, and1960.4161
1633 1960.7548carry on my plan.1961.9595 
1634DCA_se2_ag3_m_021963.0805Well, you can plan, but it- it never really works out really.1966.4564
1636 1966.6849Never go along to plan.1968.1304 
1638 1968.3064Something always come up, you know,1969.9618 
1640 1970.5633to spoil it.1971.2487 
1641DCA_int_011971.9121Mm-hm.1972.3254