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1DCA_int_010.5407Uh what kind of games did you play when you were a kid about ten, do you remember?4.3465
2DCA_se2_ag3_m_034.6738About ten?5.3659
3DCA_int_015.4259Yeah.5.8671
4DCA_se2_ag3_m_036.8009I would say7.3628
6 7.6204leap frog8.3033 
8 9.2332uh mumblety-peg10.1078 
10 11.2301baseball,11.8913 
12 12.6177football,13.3220 
13DCA_int_0115.8019[What's mum-] mumblety-peg?17.2125
14DCA_se2_ag3_m_0315.9740[uh,]16.6024
15 17.3306Pardon?17.8226
16DCA_int_0117.7028How did you play mumblety-peg?19.0307
17DCA_se2_ag3_m_0319.2122With an ice pick.19.8920
19 20.5123You uh,21.0406 
21 21.1126put it on your hand and you22.0835 
23 22.2448do like that22.6138 
25 22.6872stick it in the ground.23.5595 
27 24.4889another way you stand up and25.8373 
29 26.1224it has various phases.27.1452 
30DCA_int_0127.3945Mm-hm.27.8530
31DCA_se2_ag3_m_0327.8066The m-28.0582
32 28.1428ma- the28.7831
34 28.8591main point of the game is to put the point of the ice pick in the dirt.31.7765 
35DCA_int_0132.4770Mm-hm.32.9106
37 33.4782Well how- how did you34.4940 
39 35.2543win or?35.9553 
40DCA_se2_ag3_m_0336.6579Well uh,37.2994
41DCA_int_0138.0858Or.38.1976
42DCA_se2_ag3_m_0338.1026the final as I remember the final uh40.2331
43 41.0694phase of it was to stick the-42.3117
45 42.5101stand up43.0304 
47 43.2144and throw the43.8298 
49 43.8722point44.2324 
51 44.3244of the-44.8229 
53 45.0808by twirling45.7331 
55 45.8531the ice pick46.3654 
57 47.1497three times47.8594 
59 47.9094into the ground48.4770 
61 48.8027Had to hit three times in a row49.8881 
63 50.2434standing up.50.7760 
64DCA_int_0152.1800Were you a certain distance away or?53.6593
65DCA_se2_ag3_m_0354.6092No you were55.2592
67 55.3087right [yea- just like] we're sitting here,56.8848 
68DCA_int_0155.5539[/??/]56.0754
69 56.9508[Uh-huh.]57.4013
70DCA_se2_ag3_m_0356.9655[the ground] was right in front of us58.1481
71 58.4957so you just stood up and59.4687
73 59.6621threw it60.0030 
75 60.1364down, more or [less.]60.9927 
76DCA_int_0160.6741[Okay.]61.0395
77DCA_se2_ag3_m_0361.0408Straight down.61.5961
78DCA_int_0162.8512And if it fell over it didn't count?64.5056
79DCA_se2_ag3_m_0364.4146Uh you missed.65.2593
80 65.7464Yes.66.0213
81DCA_int_0167.9457What was the first game you said? I forget.69.5944
82DCA_se2_ag3_m_0371.7677Uh, Mumblety-peg I-72.7862
83DCA_int_0173.8219[I think you ment-] leap [frog yeah] how does that go?76.0111
84DCA_se2_ag3_m_0373.8485[Leap frog.]74.4532
86 74.7693[Leap frog.]75.2047 
87 76.4981Well one person77.4719
89 77.6587bends over in front of you and you uh,79.1393 
91 79.2529approach him from the rear80.1989 
93 80.4969and put your hands on his back and81.6435 
95 81.7075jump over his82.5079 
96DCA_int_0182.4916Mm-hm.82.6831
97DCA_se2_ag3_m_0382.9801body.83.2447
98DCA_int_0183.6579Mm-hm.84.1226
99DCA_se2_ag3_m_0384.8024Then this continues, then he does and however many play and then he just-87.7918
101 88.2520keep going.88.8083 
102DCA_int_0189.4115How did you work uh baseball? How did you pick sides92.3276
104 92.6523for baseball?93.4186 
105DCA_se2_ag3_m_0393.6815Usually uh, take a bat94.9996
107 95.9840and uh96.7793 
109 97.0725two people97.6110 
111 97.7383you know98.1545 
113 98.5067they98.9149 
115 99.1710swing the bat to- grab it100.3944 
117 100.5411and somebody swings the bat and whoever102.1491 
119 102.4300lets go103.0395 
121 103.6345he has first choice.104.5281 
123 105.4036So then105.8998 
125 106.0679he choose first then whoever was the other /per-/ person108.3783 
127 108.4252choose second and alternate109.5537 
129 109.8178like that.110.2416 
130DCA_int_01111.4026But how did you decide who was112.7813
132 113.0673gonna be up first?114.2364 
133DCA_se2_ag3_m_03115.0045Well whoever115.6996
135 116.2370won the116.8068 
137 116.8832first choice.117.5396 
138DCA_int_01118.1989Oh, [he got the] first [choice for the] team?120.0956
139DCA_se2_ag3_m_03118.5223[Auto-]118.8793
141 119.2587[automat-]119.7397 
142 120.1431Yes120.4831
143DCA_int_01120.6833And [also the] first choice for122.0754
144DCA_se2_ag3_m_03120.9292[and]121.2795
145DCA_int_01124.1211What position? Did you use all positions?126.0853
146DCA_se2_ag3_m_03126.9386As many boys as we had.128.1950
148 128.6114Sometimes we didn't have eighteen boys we'd have130.4283 
150 130.5803ten or131.1129 
152 131.2446five or six or- whatever amount of boys we had we just play with w- whatever we had.134.6785 
153DCA_int_01135.4363Was there any certain positions you left out if you didn't have enough?138.2685
154DCA_se2_ag3_m_03140.0546Any certain positions we left out if we didn't have enough- nine players?143.4375
155DCA_int_01143.3554Yeah suppose you had only s-144.6363
156 144.7271seven or eight players.145.8967
157DCA_se2_ag3_m_03146.0549Well we'd always have a pitcher, a catcher,147.5421
159 147.7439a first baseman,148.6558 
161 149.1686second baseman,150.0901 
163 150.5932/a third ba-/ well,151.4857 
165 151.6337at least five men152.4853 
167 152.6989we'd have153.1824 
169 153.2134you know like that.153.8737 
171 154.3659Then we'd just uh155.4504 
173 155.5345w- well the156.1643 
175 156.2068infielders go in the outfield or something like that.157.7810 
177 159.7967But we leave the outfield160.8350 
179 161.5015more or less spacey.162.5179 
181 163.9881Who could hit the ball that far you know [<laugh>]166.8877 
182DCA_int_01165.1286[<laugh>]166.4405
183 167.3819Is it hardball you play or [softball?]169.2380
184DCA_se2_ag3_m_03168.8799[Softball] mostly.169.7830
185 170.4568At ten or eleven like that.171.4976
186DCA_int_01171.7854Yeah.172.1410
188 173.5246Uh173.7946 
190 174.9671did you-175.5302 
192 176.0236Where did you play football?177.3355 
193DCA_se2_ag3_m_03178.0205Well we lived in the Northeast section of Washington179.9746
195 180.5406and we had plenty of fields out there.181.8332 
196DCA_int_01181.8412Oh you actually got- got to play out in the grass?184.2292
197DCA_se2_ag3_m_03184.2063Oh yes, plenty of fields.185.4007
198DCA_int_01185.7193Did you ever play tackle?186.8773
199DCA_se2_ag3_m_03187.2560Oh yes,187.7671
201 188.4085tackle,188.7984 
203 188.9884touch,189.5370 
205 191.3821depends on the192.1411 
207 192.7627you know the ground193.6277 
209 193.7232and the194.3675 
211 194.4945playmates, some wanna play tackle or some wanna play touch so.196.6213 
213 197.0677You have most wanna play touch, you play touch, you wanna-198.8137 
215 199.0264most wanna tackle,199.7266 
217 199.8010tackle.200.2334 
218DCA_int_01200.2614Mm-hm.200.7778
220 201.6500Oh good.202.1703 
222 202.8786Did you ever play any games where kids-204.6883 
224 204.7760kids had to chase each other?206.2527 
225DCA_se2_ag3_m_03206.7246Oh tag?207.4081
226DCA_int_01207.6810Yeah, [did you play tag?]208.7415
227DCA_se2_ag3_m_03208.0532[Yeah.]208.5534
228 208.7461Oh sure.209.2102
230 209.8060Follow the leader,210.5974 
232 210.9868things like that.211.6370 
233DCA_int_01212.0993How does tag work?212.9342
235 213.2070There's different ways of playing it, how did you play it?215.5479 
236DCA_se2_ag3_m_03215.8651Well,216.1696
238 216.3887tag we just um217.3723 
240 219.0615How did we play it?219.8008 
242 220.0339[It's been a long time <laugh>]221.1494 
243DCA_int_01220.0562[<laugh>]220.9325
244DCA_se2_ag3_m_03222.5141Let me see as I223.4837
246 223.6066remember it, we just uh224.9010 
248 226.2038somebody was it226.8902 
250 227.1124and then uh you had to227.9970 
252 228.1363catch somebody, tag them to make them it,229.7174 
253DCA_int_01229.9097Mm-hm.230.3393
254DCA_se2_ag3_m_03230.3505and whoever was tagged last that was it until they could tag someone else.233.0191
256 233.4452A matter of running and tagging.234.4773 
257DCA_int_01234.6308Mm-hm.234.9958
259 235.7831Okay the first236.4665 
261 237.2083person that was it, how /did they decide to be/-239.4838 
263 239.7085when you were just starting out for the [/day/?]241.2572 
264DCA_se2_ag3_m_03240.8080[Now this I] don't remember.241.9036
265 242.2446I really don't remember.243.1689
266DCA_int_01244.0156Don't remember any rhymes they might have used?246.2597
268 247.1114Didn't they use rhymes?248.6303 
269DCA_se2_ag3_m_03248.6793No,249.1129
271 249.2132I can't think of any off hand.250.4027 
272DCA_int_01250.5803Mm-hm.250.9993
274 252.1491Good.252.5932 
276 253.3876Do you watch television?254.3151 
277DCA_se2_ag3_m_03254.7629I, personally yes.255.8845
278DCA_int_01255.9498Very much? What's your favorite show?257.6746
279DCA_se2_ag3_m_03258.3217Baseball, actually [<laugh>]260.6828
280DCA_int_01259.4601[Oh you watch baseball?]260.6321
281 261.3311Follow the Senators?262.2782
282DCA_se2_ag3_m_03262.5112Now I do.263.0161
283DCA_int_01264.6008My wife does too.265.7966
285 266.6617We're from Chicago and267.9105 
287 268.0426I follow the White Sox and my wife has already left us.270.7519 
288DCA_se2_ag3_m_03270.7038Yeah well in Washington on television mostly you see is [Washington, that's about]-274.2029
289DCA_int_01272.9638[Yeah that's what I was gonna say.]274.3842
290DCA_se2_ag3_m_03274.4005yeah.274.7607
291DCA_int_01276.6055What do you think of277.5648
293 277.6980Frank Howard?278.5747 
294DCA_se2_ag3_m_03279.0256I think [he's]279.9981
295DCA_int_01279.4098[/presently/] <laugh>280.6344
296DCA_se2_ag3_m_03280.7268Well I think as he says he's a streak hitter282.4758
297DCA_int_01282.4872Mm.282.9194
298DCA_se2_ag3_m_03282.8674and think this will uh, you know cool down,284.7365
299 284.8098I don't think he'll continue it.285.8497
300DCA_int_01286.0371Mm-hm.286.6858
301DCA_se2_ag3_m_03287.2758I think he'll have a pretty good average288.3742
303 288.4142at the end of [the season.]289.1845 
304DCA_int_01288.7412[/??/]289.1374
305DCA_se2_ag3_m_03289.4121Yes.289.6962
306DCA_int_01290.8568What do you think his chances of taking the home run292.8247
308 293.6851leadership?294.2796 
309DCA_se2_ag3_m_03294.5495Sixty one or better.295.4780
310DCA_int_01296.1325No not that, but I mean the [/inaudible/.]298.0622
311DCA_se2_ag3_m_03297.0426Oh you mean the [/?/ season?]298.0413
312DCA_int_01298.0622Yeah.298.2245
313DCA_se2_ag3_m_03298.2001No I think it's very good.299.0816
314DCA_int_01300.2791Is he way out front now?301.6772
315DCA_se2_ag3_m_03301.6545Yes <laugh>302.7482
316 302.8449plus he's a strong boy.304.0174
317DCA_int_01306.1273Who would you say is the best all around308.0255
319 308.1604player on the Senators?309.3688 
321 310.6536[All around.]311.4808 
322DCA_se2_ag3_m_03310.8257[All around] player on the Senators?312.7228
323DCA_int_01312.5947You know defensive, [offensive.]314.5053
324DCA_se2_ag3_m_03314.3835[Well I] have to agree with the uh vote that they took in Washington uh317.0828
325 317.2851during the Winter, be Paul Casanova the best all around athlete.319.7360
326DCA_int_01320.0183Mm-hm.320.5466
327DCA_se2_ag3_m_03320.5386But so far this year he hasn't uh322.5370
328 322.8506you know323.2381
330 323.6914added up to his potential.324.8315 
331DCA_int_01326.9980Nobody he steals many bases on him.329.2696
332DCA_se2_ag3_m_03329.2231That's for sure.329.9294
333DCA_int_01329.9154I can remember that from White Sox playing the Senators.332.8331
334 333.8974The time they tried to steal his /??/336.6107
335DCA_se2_ag3_m_03335.9104Oh he's as good defensively this [year]337.5714
336DCA_int_01337.3141[Yeah.]337.4819
337DCA_se2_ag3_m_03337.7034as he has been338.5800
339 338.7599uh y- oh, you know for the last year.340.2566 
341 340.6130But he just hasn't341.3836 
343 341.5614start hitting yet342.6049 
345 343.0021that's all.343.5704 
346DCA_int_01346.3251Who do you think the steadiest pitcher is?348.1203
347DCA_se2_ag3_m_03348.6929The steadiest?349.6734
348DCA_int_01350.4835The one who's gonna win most games.352.0007
349DCA_se2_ag3_m_03352.3429Pascual.352.8055
350DCA_int_01353.3768Think so?353.9072
351DCA_se2_ag3_m_03353.8891I think so.354.5145
352 355.9620I think he's uh-356.9378
354 357.1040above the rest and then Joe Coleman I give him a chance, he's359.5102 
356 360.2177very good.360.5991 
357DCA_int_01361.7544Is this his first season or363.0480
359 363.2031second?363.6544 
360DCA_se2_ag3_m_03363.6513Uh Coleman? Second full season.365.4174
361DCA_int_01368.6259Think they'll-369.2785
363 369.7998think they'll finish higher than the cellar?371.5423 
364DCA_se2_ag3_m_03371.9928Yes. [<laugh>]374.3018
365DCA_int_01372.6266[Yeah they really ought to <laugh>]374.7716
366DCA_se2_ag3_m_03374.8636I think they're375.5640
368 376.1337much better than a cellar team.377.3863 
369DCA_int_01377.5959Yeah, sure.378.7046
371 380.1371You have any ideas who's gonna be the pennant winner in the American League?383.2225 
372DCA_se2_ag3_m_03384.3392Ah we have a pretty good race there.386.5042
374 386.6563I don't know.387.4249 
376 389.0856I have an idea who's gonna win it390.4383 
378 390.4943I mean I think it's between Minnesota,391.8889 
380 392.0312Detroit and Baltimore.393.1237 
381DCA_int_01393.3078Mm-hm.393.9361
382DCA_se2_ag3_m_03394.6724[Two of those.]395.2207
383DCA_int_01394.7765[I think] Cleveland's gonna stick it out.396.4237
384DCA_se2_ag3_m_03396.6136No.397.2042
386 397.7141Not Cleveland.398.4586 
387DCA_int_01398.4492<laugh>399.1748
388DCA_se2_ag3_m_03398.7385No. <laugh>399.7501
389DCA_int_01400.2540Most of the experts would agree with you.402.1493
391 403.2596What else do you watch on [TV] bes-404.8964 
392DCA_se2_ag3_m_03404.1800[/Care for one?/]404.7163
393DCA_int_01405.0484no thanks405.6327
395 406.3210besides baseball?407.1454 
396DCA_se2_ag3_m_03407.4390Well I like uh408.5315
398 408.8317some variety shows, Dean Martin I410.6125 
400 410.8996like his show very much.412.0294 
401DCA_int_01413.5968Are there any um414.2891
403 414.3892adventure stories or stories that you watch?417.2046 
405 418.9983Like Mannix or?420.3073 
406DCA_se2_ag3_m_03421.6075[Well actually I don't sit down and look] at TV that often.424.3890
407DCA_int_01421.7210[/inaudible/]423.3222
408DCA_se2_ag3_m_03425.2294You said do I watch TV, yes426.6861
410 426.7501but uh427.3024 
412 427.5104uh habitually just sit there in front of the box no I don't.430.1599 
414 430.3800<laugh>431.2444 
416 431.3284I watched-432.0648 
418 432.1530I have watched Mannix433.4857 
420 433.6257but not434.0019 
422 434.3060to any great degree.435.2345 
424 436.1311And uh436.9212 
426 436.9751Big Valley437.7308 
428 437.8119I've seen that quite a few times.439.3406 
429DCA_int_01439.3061Mm-hm.439.8303
430DCA_se2_ag3_m_03441.2790[And]442.0017
431DCA_int_01441.2790[Can-]441.8832
432DCA_se2_ag3_m_03442.1794/Pardon?/442.6036
433DCA_int_01442.9317Can you remember a certain um444.5205
435 444.8729episode of The Big Valley that struck you that you could tell about?448.3305 
437 448.7869See we're interested in getting450.0409 
439 450.9051story451.5974 
441 451.7535lines that people have found interesting so can you tell454.9992 
443 456.1358one of those that you recall?457.6378 
444DCA_se2_ag3_m_03460.1926Hm well,461.1090
446 461.3651only vaguely.462.2095 
448 462.4857I remember one where it was uh this464.5624 
450 465.5020uh adopted son of theirs466.8987 
452 467.5630was at a great quandary about who was his father, what his father was or something like that471.1722 
454 471.6518and it seemed that some woman in some473.1405 
456 473.3286distant town from where they live474.6812 
458 475.1149had some information pertaining to this477.0558 
460 477.5028and uh478.3068 
462 478.7313it was a big to-do about it but finally it worked out480.9287 
464 481.0724pretty well.481.5412 
466 482.0600And I'll say it's not- very vague- it's not very clear483.9447 
468 484.0648but I remember that particular episo-485.5174 
470 485.5735episode.486.0951 
471DCA_int_01486.3378Did you like that one?487.2724
472DCA_se2_ag3_m_03487.5386Well I thought it was [interesting]488.5472
473DCA_int_01488.0668[Good story?]488.7471
474DCA_se2_ag3_m_03488.6471yes.489.0128
475DCA_int_01489.1673Interesting.489.7156
476DCA_se2_ag3_m_03489.7446One finding his heritage you know and491.5725
477DCA_int_01491.5524Yeah.491.8326
478DCA_se2_ag3_m_03491.7966who it is and492.4322
479 492.4984what and why and so forth and so.493.9851
480DCA_int_01494.6996That's good.495.2380
482 496.2443How about movies, do you go to movies?498.2732 
483DCA_se2_ag3_m_03499.2072Well499.7474
485 499.8270not very often.500.8269 
487 501.4002The last one I saw was Valley of the Dolls.503.0369 
488DCA_int_01503.4454What was that about?504.5942
489DCA_se2_ag3_m_03505.6384Well the dolls themselves were507.3363
491 507.6035dope507.8882 
493 508.0437tablets you know508.7838 
495 509.0034pills like that509.8325 
496DCA_int_01509.6765I510.1191
497DCA_se2_ag3_m_03510.2727and uh511.0678
498DCA_int_01510.8930haven't [seen that.]511.5933
499DCA_se2_ag3_m_03511.1852[it was]511.6155
500 511.6989these girls were512.8062
502 514.9526at various times516.1011 
504 516.1587wrapped up in them517.0725 
506 517.2217and they517.8007 
508 517.8740affected- the dolls, the pills519.3890 
510 519.5682affected their lives520.5767 
512 521.1369very much,521.7450 
514 522.0622very much.522.5802 
515DCA_int_01524.0865What happened to them?524.9254
516DCA_se2_ag3_m_03525.5832What happened to them?526.2996
517DCA_int_01526.2996Yeah.526.7158
518DCA_se2_ag3_m_03526.6357One finally committed suicide,528.2856
519 529.1959one529.6298
521 529.8762I think530.5912 
523 530.6725was going531.3982 
525 531.4969off her rocker at the end of the picture,533.2217 
527 533.6341and the other one534.4465 
529 534.5145straightened up and535.6233 
531 536.1393presumably536.6891 
533 536.7728lived happily ever after.537.9363 
534DCA_int_01538.0804Mm-hm.538.6928
536 540.7016Do you- do you remember what541.9142 
538 542.1983happened in between?543.4551 
540 544.7517This a plot line or545.9538 
542 546.0938anything?546.7061 
543DCA_se2_ag3_m_03547.3809Well one was a-548.3097
545 549.0327the one that is-549.6469 
547 549.8851uh wound up550.5814 
549 550.8295uh551.3374 
551 551.6019going insane552.3754 
553 553.1686she was a famous movie actress.554.4269 
555 555.2745So uh most of it was556.4030 
557 556.4591through-556.8748 
559 557.1434about her life and558.3842 
561 558.5400what she went through to start,559.9521 
563 560.3171what she went through,561.3055 
565 561.3856why she was,562.3579 
567 562.5849and her final collapse.563.9084 
569 564.8868Another one was um566.0479 
571 566.7643she was sort of in the567.8339 
573 568.5561show business569.2789 
575 569.9445but more or less was a model,571.2854 
577 571.9136she had a mother that always made her breasts- had to be s- you know a certain way and everything else,576.1876 
579 576.5908and she wound up doing uh nudey pictures in France for some guy,579.5081 
581 579.9778and she married some581.1446 
583 581.3945fella who was a582.1068 
585 582.3149promising singer583.1363 
587 583.8076and he had some disease584.9483 
589 585.0736so we- he was institutionalized586.9675 
591 587.4042and she went overseas and start making these pictures.589.2691 
593 590.2390And uh finally she came back and592.4754 
595 593.5460things didn't go too well for her and she's the one that finally committed suicide.596.8461 
596DCA_int_01596.9198Hm.597.3508
597DCA_se2_ag3_m_03597.9883The other girl, she started out from a599.7530
599 599.8451little town in Connecticut,600.9060 
601 601.9916went to New York,602.6519 
603 602.8920and got this um604.0196 
605 605.3839a job with a606.2643 
607 606.4284legal firm.607.0763 
609 607.9881And she got involved emotionally with um610.2535 
611 610.7774one of the611.3739 
613 612.4516partners of the legal firm,613.6533 
615 614.5153and they had a615.3124 
617 615.4598set-to here and a set-to there and he had a set-to with the movie star and618.8028 
619 619.2830she finally-620.1092 
621 620.9680well she found out about the movie star and-622.4127 
623 622.5127and her622.9713 
625 623.1290friend, her fella,624.0088 
627 624.5528and she uh625.3128 
629 625.7184started taking the626.4668 
631 626.7189pills too.627.3357 
632DCA_int_01627.4793Oh [no.]628.0330
633DCA_se2_ag3_m_03627.6833[But she] finally straightened up628.7936
634 628.8746packed up and went back to Connecticut and she630.5834
636 630.6569presu- she's the one pro- uh presumably hap- lived happily ever after.633.4166 
637DCA_int_01634.0387Oh that's good.634.9167
639 636.1308Is there one movie that you would call the best one you've ever seen?639.1051 
640DCA_se2_ag3_m_03641.9506Uh well,642.7778
642 644.8947saw quite a few I remember very well.646.6330 
643DCA_int_01646.8238Mm-hm.647.4881
644DCA_se2_ag3_m_03647.7243It was Gone With the Wind was a very good one,649.4396
646 650.2029Shane was a very good one.651.6135 
647DCA_int_01652.5907Yeah I saw that I was-653.9172
649 654.5451it was quite a while ago did they revive it or656.7554 
651 656.9022was it [/a revival/]658.1228 
652DCA_se2_ag3_m_03657.1305[It- well it was on] TV not too long ago.659.1274
653DCA_int_01658.7633/Oh yeah./659.3568
654DCA_se2_ag3_m_03659.7570Um.660.5102
655DCA_int_01660.8737What was it about? I don't remember too much about it.663.1348
656DCA_se2_ag3_m_03663.5390Well I don't remember too well either it's a665.1687
658 665.3133Western665.9257 
660 666.2297picture.666.6739 
662 667.0141He was a667.6744 
664 668.2546you know668.5948 
666 669.1873cowboy.669.7155 
668 670.4319/All in that/670.8801 
670 670.9681order.671.4202 
672 671.6539and it all takes place in Western towns and674.0982 
674 674.5913fast with the gun, and675.8158 
676 675.9974hard676.5663 
678 676.8578fighter and677.6742 
680 678.1464nice guy all the way around you know he was a680.1313 
682 680.4557good guy, lot of the681.5120 
684 681.5802people were bad guys [in the West those days <laugh>] like most Westerns I mean,685.2421 
685DCA_int_01682.3313[<laugh>]683.8520
687 684.8900Yeah.685.3422 
688DCA_se2_ag3_m_03686.6935not a real thick plot.687.7020
689DCA_int_01688.1117Yeah.688.6002
691 689.7564Good.690.2352 
693 691.3113Have you ever had a691.9910 
695 692.3271a pet?693.1877 
696DCA_se2_ag3_m_03693.8118I, a pet?694.8901
697DCA_int_01693.9128/unintelligible/ yeah.695.2207
698DCA_se2_ag3_m_03696.1559As a boy we had dogs, yes.697.8509
699DCA_int_01699.0772What-699.3486
701 699.5494what did you do with them?700.5929 
702DCA_se2_ag3_m_03701.6144What did we do with them?702.5108
703DCA_int_01702.4590Mm-hm.703.0076
704DCA_se2_ag3_m_03704.5600[Nothing but play with them.]705.8559
705DCA_int_01704.5920[How did you take care of them?]705.9952
706DCA_se2_ag3_m_03706.2527No my father took care of them707.3476
708 707.7977f- mo- f- f- mother or father.709.3184 
709DCA_int_01709.2944Mm-hm.709.7746
710DCA_se2_ag3_m_03710.3216And I just played with 'em711.4528
712 711.8250Ran and712.6094 
714 713.1056swimming hole with 'em and [you know] baseball and715.5713 
715DCA_int_01714.3157[Oh.]715.0064
716DCA_se2_ag3_m_03715.9324like that.716.3046
717DCA_int_01716.6487Did they actually go in the water?718.0328
718DCA_se2_ag3_m_03718.6259Well, [yes]719.3453
719DCA_int_01718.8420[/Yeah/]]719.3982
720DCA_se2_ag3_m_03719.3902dogs go in the water sure. <laugh>722.0194
721DCA_int_01722.3783Not too often then, I don't recall ever seeing dogs in the water very often.726.3949
722DCA_se2_ag3_m_03726.4190Oh yes.726.9443
724 727.4036Dogs go in the water.728.1989 
725DCA_int_01728.1640Hm.728.5882
726DCA_se2_ag3_m_03728.6522You get to laughing and playing, went729.8728
728 729.9488old swimming hole out in Maryland,731.2157 
729DCA_int_01731.3817/??/732.0258
730DCA_se2_ag3_m_03731.5658not far from the District line732.6992
731DCA_int_01732.9359Mm-hm.733.3241
732DCA_se2_ag3_m_03733.4121and they- we'd go out there and jump in the hole and735.2000
734 735.2530they'd735.5171 
736 735.5491splash in the water,736.6100 
737DCA_int_01736.7937Mm-hm.737.1979
738DCA_se2_ag3_m_03737.1018you know shake it all over you,738.1192
739 738.2186you think you dried off and they739.4559
741 739.5632make sure you740.2155 
742DCA_int_01740.0834<laugh>741.5463
743DCA_se2_ag3_m_03740.2955wet again. <laugh>741.6031
744DCA_int_01742.3832That's pretty good, were they mixed breed dogs or were they mostly745.2646
745DCA_se2_ag3_m_03745.5797Well one was a bull and the other one was uh just a747.4837
747 748.1208mongrel, you know748.9568 
748DCA_int_01748.8012Mm-hm.749.3180
749DCA_se2_ag3_m_03749.3454just another dog just a dog that's all.750.9128
750DCA_int_01751.9749They ever do anything amusing or753.5956
752 754.4440funny that [you remember?]755.5765 
753DCA_se2_ag3_m_03754.9162[The most amusing] thing was the756.3219
754 756.4411bulldog you know he's kind of big and mean,758.0779
756 758.1699and the other little mongrel he was a759.5949 
758 759.6894I don't know what he was just a760.5471 
760 760.6298mongrel761.0260 
761DCA_int_01761.0315Mm-hm.761.4611
762DCA_se2_ag3_m_03761.4717and he was a little thing762.5682
764 763.0779he used to go out and pick all the fights in the neighborhood with the big dogs and the big dog had to come along and rescue him <laugh>768.0242 
765DCA_int_01766.7704<laugh> No kidding.768.7781
766DCA_se2_ag3_m_03768.5905It was-768.8022
767 769.2435So help me. <laugh>770.9911
768DCA_int_01769.9306<laugh>771.1395
769DCA_se2_ag3_m_03771.3527Go and fight everything in the neighborhood and the big dog have to come along and-773.6898
771 773.7338and774.0357 
773 774.3208take him home.774.8955 
774DCA_int_01774.8666/Gee whiz/ that's funny. You had them both at the same time?777.7836
775DCA_se2_ag3_m_03778.2576Yeah both at the same time.779.3981
776DCA_int_01780.3826What'd you call 'em?781.1097
777DCA_se2_ag3_m_03781.9355Jack was the bulldog, Raymond was the783.5972
779 783.7244little dog.784.2236 
780DCA_int_01784.3314Mm-hm.784.9309
782 785.6094That's interesting.786.4004 
784 787.1822What did you study in school, say elementary school, you remember?790.5557 
785DCA_se2_ag3_m_03791.9246Reading,792.4688
787 792.5249arithmetic um,793.9175 
789 796.3294well spelling,797.1177 
791 800.0648uh801.4094 
793 801.4975elementary school.802.3579 
795 808.0262I really don't know much further than that.809.8430 
796DCA_int_01810.4753That's810.8352
798 811.2157most of the basic subjects, huh?812.7126 
799DCA_se2_ag3_m_03812.5565Yeah.812.9483
800 813.9051Writing of course.814.8235
801DCA_int_01814.7935Mm.815.1999
802 815.2978Mm-hm.815.6539
803DCA_se2_ag3_m_03815.7820Penmanship.816.2982
804DCA_int_01818.1886What about uh when you got to high school?819.7458
805DCA_se2_ag3_m_03822.1919High school I had822.9219
807 823.1566English,823.9410 
809 824.7013biology,825.4603 
811 826.1940Latin,827.0691 
813 828.9795Uh829.6158 
815 829.9440math,830.4922 
817 831.9369sociology,832.7365 
819 836.9597mm history,838.4675 
821 840.8214phys-ed,841.4137 
822DCA_int_01841.6498Mm-hm.842.0060
823DCA_se2_ag3_m_03842.1781uh,842.9211
825 844.5714high school.845.2437 
826DCA_int_01846.4883Well that's good enough.847.5056
827DCA_se2_ag3_m_03847.7011That's about it.848.3454
829 849.2978We had some chemistry,850.2022 
831 850.3263you know as you850.7985 
833 851.0546go from grade to grade you change from biology to chemistry like that.853.5870 
834DCA_int_01855.8198What did the uh kids- let's go back to around858.3249
836 859.2308ten years old or so again, what did the kids do after school?861.9722 
838 862.8900After school was out what would they do?864.6455 
839DCA_se2_ag3_m_03866.5439Huh866.9285
841 867.3163not much867.8142 
843 867.8954just uh go home,869.0811 
845 869.5615change your clothes, get something to eat,870.9099 
847 871.5505go out and play.872.1876 
848DCA_int_01872.4469Mm-hm what would they play?873.8229
849DCA_se2_ag3_m_03874.7522Well anything you know875.6846
851 875.7526skip rope um,877.2973 
853 877.9791well,878.3942 
855 879.4598uh baseball um,880.7124 
857 881.5528tag, anything you know.882.7167 
858DCA_int_01882.4987Mm-hm.882.9050
859 883.4271Did you play their884.2398
861 885.0799[kids games?]885.8766 
862DCA_se2_ag3_m_03885.2615[Mumblety-peg?]885.8738
863 886.1299Huh?886.6676
864DCA_int_01886.7024Did you play their kids games?887.8562
865DCA_se2_ag3_m_03887.7041Play the kids games, yeah.888.6525
866DCA_int_01888.5605Mm-hm.889.2608
867 890.3013Good.890.7333
868DCA_se2_ag3_m_03891.9983Cause we used to have uh girls with us we used to play dodgeball and894.8355
870 895.0997as well as skip rope895.9197 
872 895.9921we used to-896.4698 
874 896.5299anything you know897.2662 
875DCA_int_01897.2622Mm-hm.897.5904
876DCA_se2_ag3_m_03897.5664just the girls do we did they- if we played ball, they played ball, so.900.3600
877DCA_int_01900.6107Mm.901.0149
879 902.0554There weren't certain games that girls would play and boys wouldn't?904.6749 
881 905.3104Or were there?905.9266 
882DCA_se2_ag3_m_03906.4229Well you see the girls play more hopscotch or something like that908.6574
883DCA_int_01908.7214Mm-hm.909.0776
884DCA_se2_ag3_m_03909.0136and the boys play more mumblety-peg,910.2776
885DCA_int_01910.5118Mm-hm.910.9907
886DCA_se2_ag3_m_03910.7799but as far as uh911.6274
887 912.2085skipping the rope and913.0397
889 913.2438dodgeball and914.0801 
891 914.5644tag and915.2232 
893 915.4048baseball915.9416 
895 916.0278like that,916.3852 
897 916.8041well boys played more football than the girls,918.4920 
898DCA_int_01918.2943Mm-hm.918.7863
899DCA_se2_ag3_m_03918.8146but the girls played baseball.919.7042
900DCA_int_01919.8590Mm.920.1714
902 921.0118Hm.921.4399 
904 921.6521That's interesting.922.4405 
906 923.4969What about when you were a teenager,925.0091 
908 925.2272what would you do after school was out?926.9680 
910 928.3982High school.929.2321 
911DCA_se2_ag3_m_03930.0589Uh930.7193
913 931.3598junior high you mean,932.1011 
915 932.1881or high school?932.6804 
916DCA_int_01932.6884High school.933.4634
918 934.1010I guess you were too old for tag and that but-936.3345 
919DCA_se2_ag3_m_03936.1542Yeah well936.9814
920 937.2947high school well938.2752
922 938.8795uh the first year939.8940 
924 940.0200after school I drilled,941.3160 
925DCA_int_01942.4694Drilled?942.9621
926DCA_se2_ag3_m_03943.0056Yeah,943.4058
928 943.4538cadet corps.944.0664 
929DCA_int_01944.3557Oh.944.7704
930DCA_se2_ag3_m_03944.9520Yeah.945.3282
932 945.7283And uh when I got home it was uh time to947.8544 
934 948.5339get the uniform off and hit the books950.1708 
935DCA_int_01950.2587[Mm-hm.]950.9843
936DCA_se2_ag3_m_03950.5028[you know]950.9381
937 951.0710uh may have some chores to do you know something to do around the house953.4321
939 954.8383and955.4465 
941 956.7206that was it,957.2140 
943 957.4449study, you know that's-958.4454 
945 958.7656that was it.959.1705 
947 959.7955Not too much uh960.7098 
949 961.0001play in the afternoons961.9485 
951 962.3702a- you know with drilling,963.2106 
952DCA_int_01963.5187Mm-hm.963.9829
953DCA_se2_ag3_m_03963.9829You don't get home from drill til around965.2905
954 965.3758oh five, something like that.966.4643
955DCA_int_01967.3167What was this cadet corps in connection with did you do regular drill or?971.0304
956DCA_se2_ag3_m_03971.8337Well Washington, DC has this uh973.3464
958 973.6786high school cadet corps.974.5580 
959DCA_int_01974.6991Oh I didn't know they did.975.6755
960DCA_se2_ag3_m_03975.6795Yeah and they um976.6272
962 977.3645drilled same as um,978.6518 
964 979.1133it's sort of an ROTC.980.1113 
965DCA_int_01980.3619Mm-hm.980.7741
966DCA_se2_ag3_m_03980.5980You see in college ROTC,981.8586
967DCA_int_01981.6680Mm-hm.982.0360
968DCA_se2_ag3_m_03982.1362it's something like that.982.8575
970 983.4848you have uniforms, you have uh your captains, your lieutenants, your regular officers and everything, your flag987.6122 
972 987.7043sergeants and988.5344 
973DCA_int_01988.4716Hm.988.8558
974DCA_se2_ag3_m_03988.9638you take basic military training.990.5660
975DCA_int_01990.7607Hm.991.1608
976DCA_se2_ag3_m_03991.8011You know your992.3134
978 992.3694formations, your marching, your994.1702 
980 995.8472just996.2318 
982 996.4835regular996.8877 
984 997.0078basic997.3679 
986 997.5200military training.998.2083 
987DCA_int_01998.2764Hm998.6740
989 998.8809that's interesting, I was on a drill team in college that's how come I'm interested1002.5065 
990DCA_se2_ag3_m_031002.5465<laugh>1003.1677
991DCA_int_011003.1948in that.1003.6215
992DCA_se2_ag3_m_031003.5220Yeah we started in tenth grade.1004.7225
993DCA_int_011004.9906Mm-hm.1005.6176
995 1006.0952Did you do uh1006.9398 
997 1007.7387tricky stuff or was it just /the straight/1009.7931 
999 1010.1773military-1011.0393 
1000DCA_se2_ag3_m_031010.1973This was strictly up to the uh1011.9661
1001 1012.4503outfit,1012.8305
1003 1012.9145I mean if you were advanced enough in your learning1015.1495 
1005 1015.4612to try the tricky stuff you could try the tricky stuff1017.2607 
1006DCA_int_011017.3783Oh.1017.8025
1007DCA_se2_ag3_m_031017.5622but it wasn't compulsory.1018.5098
1008DCA_int_011018.5829Mm-hm.1019.0791
1010 1019.7554You ever do any of that?1020.8845 
1011DCA_se2_ag3_m_031021.6805With the rifle yeah1022.5129
1012DCA_int_011022.4169Twirling [/and that kind of stuff?/]1023.6954
1013DCA_se2_ag3_m_031022.7330[yeah with the rifle yeah.]1023.7215
1014DCA_int_011023.8775/inaudible/ that's fun, I really enjoyed that /inaudible/1027.6174
1016 1028.6920Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot?1030.3522 
1017DCA_se2_ag3_m_031032.6793Uh1033.4076
1018DCA_int_011034.9658Grade school or in your high school?1036.6626
1019DCA_se2_ag3_m_031037.3044No if I say so myself I was a pretty good student.1039.5855
1020DCA_int_011039.7738<laugh>1040.7055
1021DCA_se2_ag3_m_031039.9939<laugh> I didn't uh need a lot of hollering so-1042.7351
1022 1043.3554so I got along with my teachers pretty well.1044.9692
1023DCA_int_011044.8696Mm-hm was there one that hollered at the kids in general or?1047.6829
1024DCA_se2_ag3_m_031047.9110Oh we used to have a geography teacher that uh1049.3879
1026 1049.7681used to get very disgusted with1050.7771 
1028 1051.4409some members of the class and1052.5641 
1030 1052.9270she'd1053.2971 
1032 1053.3392raise her voice1053.9662 
1034 1054.0195yes.1054.3476 
1035DCA_int_011054.8039What was it usually about do you remember?1056.6673
1036DCA_se2_ag3_m_031057.3693Misbehavior or1058.7030
1038 1058.9781failure to get your lessons or bring in proper homework or1061.7442 
1040 1062.4959things of that nature.1063.2607 
1042 1063.8726something the child had done,1064.9851 
1044 1065.0893not the teacher.1065.8295 
1045DCA_int_011067.0582Was it mostly fair1068.0495
1047 1068.2508what she yelled about or do you think she was1070.0736 
1049 1070.4693unjust?1071.1398 
1050DCA_se2_ag3_m_031073.5457Well nine times out of ten I wasn't involved in it1075.4091
1051DCA_int_011075.4493<laugh>1076.3777
1052DCA_se2_ag3_m_031075.4546so I mean <laugh> I couldn't say I mean but I uh do know that she treated me fair so I can imagine that she was treating them fairly as she could1081.0559
1053 1081.3535before she hollered1082.1285
1054DCA_int_011082.3980Mm-hm.1082.8742
1055DCA_se2_ag3_m_031083.4225like that.1083.8667
1056DCA_int_011084.8994I mean she did- did she ever holler that you remember1087.0951
1058 1087.4088about something the kid didn't do or anything like that just to be grouchy?1090.7023 
1059DCA_se2_ag3_m_031090.6515No one of her favorite statements used to be I got mine you have yours to get1093.3130
1060 1093.5758and you can sit there and play around all you want, you know, you don't have t- to get to work if you don't want to, I have mine1098.1019
1062 1098.1742and you have yours to get.1098.9506 
1064 1099.7749which I thought was fair.1100.5340 
1065DCA_int_011100.6741Mm-hm.1101.0343
1066DCA_se2_ag3_m_031101.2264I mean, she worked hard to get where she was and I didn't think that the kids should be in there just1104.6759
1068 1104.9150you know raising Cain and1105.8554 
1070 1106.0836disrupting everybody else.1107.1401 
1071DCA_int_011107.2441Mm-hm.1107.9044
1072DCA_se2_ag3_m_031108.2686So in my estimation she was fair.1109.7172
1073DCA_int_011109.7895/?/ fair.1110.4498
1075 1110.8340Okay.1111.2742 
1077 1111.7024What about the best teacher you ever had?1113.6383 
1079 1114.3811Do you remember that?1115.1863 
1080DCA_se2_ag3_m_031117.4265The best1118.0708
1081DCA_int_011118.4004[Mm-hm.]1119.1328
1082DCA_se2_ag3_m_031118.5885[teacher?]1119.0648
1083 1120.7377You mean the most efficient or the one I like the most? <laugh>1123.6838
1084DCA_int_011122.9908Well let's take 'em both, let's take the one you like the most first.1125.6930
1085DCA_se2_ag3_m_031126.5459I had a Latin teacher in high school1128.1060
1087 1128.3187that I1128.7509 
1089 1129.5195liked1129.8557 
1091 1130.2118very much.1130.7227 
1093 1131.4644You know1131.8301 
1095 1132.0422she was a very good teacher and1133.6949 
1097 1133.9470/so what and so on/1134.6785 
1099 1136.1788Ah the most efficient teacher, pardon?1137.7650 
1100DCA_int_011137.7730What was there- there about this Latin teacher that1140.0621
1102 1141.2827put her above the others?1142.5989 
1103DCA_se2_ag3_m_031143.3891Well she uh1144.1457
1105 1144.4898explained1145.1822 
1107 1145.6424and she1146.3547 
1109 1146.7509was always available1147.6433 
1111 1147.9782you know if you had difficulty or1149.3395 
1113 1149.5869you know- she was always available,1150.6995 
1115 1151.3600and she did it with a smile1152.4571 
1117 1152.9407with1153.1408 
1119 1153.2609/a thought of uh/1153.9972 
1121 1154.0412you know grumbling1154.7376 
1123 1156.0797and she just seemed to be a dedicated teacher,1158.0928 
1125 1158.2767and she helped her students1159.8174 
1127 1160.1338all get grades that were1161.5922 
1129 1162.1587the maximum instead of just passing like that.1163.8683 
1131 1164.0425She helped them as much as she possibly could.1165.7097 
1132DCA_int_011166.5384Were you good in Latin?1167.5805
1133DCA_se2_ag3_m_031168.2525Mm, pretty good.1169.0782
1134DCA_int_011170.9059What about the one that would- taught1172.7171
1136 1173.1350most efficiently?1174.1450 
1138 1176.6035Or would it be the same one?1177.8321 
1139DCA_se2_ag3_m_031179.2035Well,1179.7465
1141 1179.7945/now the one that's-/ was the most efficient I think was uh1182.3289 
1143 1182.4745a little rough <laugh>1184.9316 
1144DCA_int_011183.2548<laugh>1184.6596
1145DCA_se2_ag3_m_031185.3240actually I mean1186.4066
1147 1186.5726uh he was a male teacher and he was a1188.2908 
1149 1188.4134science teacher1189.1129 
1151 1189.2153in fact1189.6235 
1153 1190.2157and he just nearly-1191.3206 
1155 1191.5779he d-1192.0901 
1157 1192.1501was more or less the same as this other teacher but he was just1193.8989 
1159 1194.5152less uh1195.4759 
1161 1195.7280cooperative, less uh helpful1197.2607 
1163 1197.3728and /so what so on/1198.0411 
1165 1198.2652but he did give it to you to the point1199.8299 
1167 1199.9247of1200.2408 
1169 1200.5089you should have it,1201.3814 
1171 1201.5814if you just pay attention /so what and so on/1203.1917 
1173 1203.4438he was more he-1203.9488 
1175 1204.2789taught more like a college teacher than a high [school teacher like] that,1206.4799 
1176DCA_int_011205.6676[Mm-hm.]1206.2678
1177DCA_se2_ag3_m_031207.2005and I think he was very efficient.1208.2817
1178DCA_int_011208.3570Hm.1208.7372
1180 1210.0698Felt that you learned stuff from him?1211.6270 
1181DCA_se2_ag3_m_031212.1162Well I think if you didn't you just plain had to1214.2273
1183 1214.3280form a dislike for him and you know just one of those mental blocks or something like that.1217.5135 
1184DCA_int_011217.7365Mm-hm.1218.7370
1186 1219.2773Did most of the kids feel about him the way you did you know that he was1222.2175 
1188 1222.7431kind of rough but a pretty good teacher?1224.5426 
1189DCA_se2_ag3_m_031224.6360I think most of 'em thought1225.6724
1191 1225.8125of him as a good teacher.1227.1549 
1193 1227.7389They didn't think that he was rough because I didn't have a great1229.6632 
1195 1229.8653love for science, for biology that's why /he was strict/1232.4620 
1196DCA_int_011230.9671<laugh>1232.4813
1197DCA_se2_ag3_m_031232.8843and he was just uh1234.1102
1199 1234.4662I mean he just1235.0747 
1201 1235.3548made it worse that's all <laugh>1237.1196 
1202DCA_int_011236.2180<laugh>1237.2280
1203DCA_se2_ag3_m_031237.7079No I think all of 'em thought he was a good teacher though.1239.2753
1204DCA_int_011239.1941Mm-hm.1239.7906
1205 1241.7808Was there a teacher that- another teacher besides this biology teacher that you just couldn't stand?1246.1200
1207 1246.3084Didn't like at all?1247.5666 
1208DCA_se2_ag3_m_031250.4225Mm1251.1868
1210 1251.8351uh,1252.3924 
1212 1255.9147no, I had one who didn't like me so much but I could get along with uh1258.9537 
1214 1259.1122just about all of 'em.1259.8349 
1215DCA_int_011260.4528Why was that?1261.1132
1217 1261.7376Do you [remember?]1262.4020 
1218DCA_se2_ag3_m_031261.9818[Well in my] uh fifth year Latin,1263.8321
1219 1264.3709I was the only boy in a class with twenty one,1266.3286
1221 1266.4761[And I think he uh] resented this <laugh> I really think he resented it, you know.1270.9053 
1222DCA_int_011266.4801[Oh no] <laugh>1269.3437
1223DCA_se2_ag3_m_031271.2650[So does-]1272.2112
1224DCA_int_011271.3078[That was a man] teacher?1272.5218
1225DCA_se2_ag3_m_031272.4963A man teacher1273.0846
1226 1273.1606yeah.1273.4814
1228 1274.1386And I think he liked to play with the girls you know1275.4912 
1230 1275.7633/you know/ whatever you wanna do with 'em, /a male uh might/1277.8190 
1232 1278.2219interfere with his uh- uh his1280.0839 
1233DCA_int_011278.8822<laugh>1279.4221
1234DCA_se2_ag3_m_031280.2191teaching or something.1281.2030
1235DCA_int_011281.2035<laugh>1282.0641
1236DCA_se2_ag3_m_031282.1760Well he didn't have any great love for me but I got along with him pretty well you know1284.8092
1237DCA_int_011284.7627Mm.1285.2010
1238 1285.5230Good.1285.8989
1240 1287.1518Were you ever in a class where the kids played a1289.0674 
1242 1289.4623practical joke or a trick on the teacher?1291.5623 
1243DCA_se2_ag3_m_031293.4524Mm not that I recall.1295.0473
1244DCA_int_011295.4093No?1295.8389
1245DCA_se2_ag3_m_031295.7975Never.1296.2227
1246DCA_int_011297.0103Or put any tacks on the seat or anything?1298.8951
1247DCA_se2_ag3_m_031298.5990No no no.1299.9066
1248 1300.0277They'd play with each other you know but not with the teacher.1301.9728
1249DCA_int_011302.1889Mm-hm.1302.8291
1250DCA_se2_ag3_m_031303.2093Pulling chairs out from behind one another and1304.9378
1251DCA_int_011304.8541Oh yeah?1305.4026
1252DCA_se2_ag3_m_031305.3866all this, yeah.1306.2268
1253 1306.4791But that's with each other1307.3208
1255 1307.3995not with a [teacher.]1308.1788 
1256DCA_int_011307.7637[Not with] a teacher.1308.6761
1257DCA_se2_ag3_m_031308.5400Right.1308.8362
1258DCA_int_011309.6340What else would they do to each other do you remember?1311.7891
1259DCA_se2_ag3_m_031312.2847Oh they would do anything1313.3297
1261 1313.3812uh1313.7734 
1263 1313.8495you know kids in1314.9180 
1265 1314.9940elementary you know stick balls and1316.8308 
1267 1317.0804uh rubber bands <laugh>1320.0205 
1268DCA_int_011319.8364Yeah I remember [some of that] stuff.1321.5213
1269DCA_se2_ag3_m_031320.3969[/do almost anything/]1321.1333
1270 1321.8976But as I got older1322.9381
1272 1323.2663took that out of the classroom you know1324.5753 
1274 1324.6189took that recess or1325.6928 
1276 1326.0638ten thirty break or whatever it was1327.4844 
1278 1328.2048as you got o- they got older they didn't1329.8331 
1280 1330.6514play around, horse around too much in the classroom.1332.2826 
1281DCA_int_011333.1620Mm-hm.1333.7396
1283 1334.3626When you were uh1335.2551 
1285 1336.4450a small child again going back to elementary age,1339.3184 
1287 1339.7120was there a certain group of kids that you always played with sort of hung around,1343.0936 
1289 1343.2859did things with?1344.2931 
1290DCA_se2_ag3_m_031345.5429I would say so,1346.2366
1292 1346.3153yeah.1346.5896 
1293DCA_int_011347.0078Were they about your age?1348.0154
1294DCA_se2_ag3_m_031348.2124Yeah.1348.5085
1295DCA_int_011349.8051Was there one kid in this group that you looked up to as a leader?1352.5146
1296DCA_se2_ag3_m_031353.4230Never.1353.9072
1297DCA_int_011354.1754Hm.1354.5716
1299 1354.9637Everybody was kind of equal?1356.3351 
1300DCA_se2_ag3_m_031356.5112Everybody was1357.1275
1302 1357.1928/kwina/ kind of equal1358.1359 
1304 1358.1827right.1358.4817 
1305DCA_int_011359.2792Suppose a new kid came into the neighborhood and wanted to play with you,1362.7438
1307 1363.0479or join the group, how would he go about it?1365.2584 
1308DCA_se2_ag3_m_031365.7427It made us no difference.1366.5684
1310 1367.3794Fact I moved quite a few times when I was young so therefore I was always the new kid in the block <laugh>1372.1118 
1312 1372.4447so it just- so you know just1374.1137 
1314 1374.5499come on in and play1375.3183 
1316 1375.4596that's all.1375.7957 
1318 1376.5841Course you always1377.2909 
1320 1377.3485you know look at the new guy,1378.2809 
1322 1379.0655you know who is he, what is he like and all that but1380.7620 
1324 1381.7267no1382.2389 
1326 1382.3070trouble or anything.1383.1327 
1327DCA_int_011383.4077Didn't have to fight your way in or anything like that?1385.6383
1328DCA_se2_ag3_m_031385.6968No you just fought /???/1386.9376
1330 1387.6139you know you just get on the playground you might get in a fight1389.2506 
1332 1389.7909or d-1390.2271 
1334 1390.3672play1390.6429 
1336 1390.7353tag somebody- hits somebody too hard, you might get in a fight but1392.5282 
1338 1392.5937just to fight a new kid, no1394.0623 
1340 1394.7026no1394.9708 
1342 1395.0988nothing like that.1395.5790 
1343DCA_int_011396.1503There's no initiations or anything like that?1398.1465
1344DCA_se2_ag3_m_031398.1552No.1398.8755
1345DCA_int_011399.4918Mm-hm.1400.0519
1347 1401.3127In this group of kids that uh you hung around with were there any Caucasians?1405.1323 
1348DCA_se2_ag3_m_031407.3492At ten years of age?1408.3096
1349DCA_int_011408.2976Yeah.1408.6616
1350DCA_se2_ag3_m_031408.7018No.1408.9754
1351DCA_int_011409.9598What about later on?1410.9243
1352DCA_se2_ag3_m_031411.4485In junior high school we lived with a-1413.1015
1354 1413.7458well they had a1414.2146 
1356 1414.4942neighborhood store1415.2459 
1357DCA_int_011415.5747Mm-hm.1415.9502
1358DCA_se2_ag3_m_031415.9588and the son there1417.1474
1360 1417.4956was a Jew,1418.0615 
1361DCA_int_011418.3749Mm-hm.1418.7406
1362DCA_se2_ag3_m_031418.7631Caucasian,1419.3349
1363DCA_int_011419.3594Yeah.1419.7115
1364DCA_se2_ag3_m_031420.0077so I say1420.8175
1366 1421.5244he and I, we used to-1422.5852 
1368 1422.6691the whole neighborhood used to play together.1424.1088 
1369DCA_int_011424.1298Mm-hm.1424.6339
1371 1425.1743Was there a group of-1425.9855 
1373 1426.1547is there a group of people now that you1428.0156 
1375 1428.8615hang around with1429.7685 
1377 1430.5330when you're not working?1431.6941 
1378DCA_se2_ag3_m_031431.8951Caucasians?1432.9493
1379DCA_int_011432.9236No, anybody.1433.6906
1380DCA_se2_ag3_m_031434.8005No usually I'm with the family.1436.7016
1382 1436.9857I'm a family man and uh usually I'm either wi- either with1439.4963 
1384 1439.8830my immediate family or1441.5213 
1386 1442.1536the brothers and sister of the wife or the brother and sist- my own1444.6882 
1388 1444.8163people like that1445.4043 
1390 1446.0008very seldom I go1446.9238 
1392 1447.3669out1447.6150 
1394 1447.7231period, you know1448.4081 
1395DCA_int_011448.5067Mm.1448.6790
1396DCA_se2_ag3_m_031448.7035to mix with people1449.6062
1398 1450.1137to a party or1451.0981 
1400 1451.2262cabaret or something like that,1452.5222 
1401DCA_int_011452.2547Mm-hm.1452.8120
1402DCA_se2_ag3_m_031452.8884well then you have everybody there1454.0890
1403DCA_int_011454.2771Mm-hm.1454.6602
1404DCA_se2_ag3_m_031454.6413but other than that just to1456.0838
1405 1456.4116no.1456.6277
1406DCA_int_011456.8918Mostly your [family?]1458.0443
1407DCA_se2_ag3_m_031457.7162[Mostly] it's1458.2644
1408 1458.3765family.1458.7967
1410 1459.3704Course I have a large family.1460.4022 
1411DCA_int_011460.6150Oh yeah? How many kids do you have?1461.9196
1412DCA_se2_ag3_m_031461.9236I mean my1462.5681
1414 1462.8202[wife is] right,1464.1568 
1415DCA_int_011462.8402[Oh you mean your]1463.7044
1417 1464.1528relatives?1464.8799 
1418DCA_se2_ag3_m_031464.6411right, relatives right.1465.5735
1419DCA_int_011467.4066How many children do you have though?1468.9144
1420DCA_se2_ag3_m_031469.0713I have four children in school.1470.1801
1421DCA_int_011470.3842Oh that's a nice family.1471.7448
1423 1474.0899Ah let's see,1474.8214 
1425 1475.4267uh if you could start over again, is there anything you'd do differently?1478.7082 
1427 1478.9178Your education, decisions you've made,1480.9284 
1429 1481.8272your life?1482.6094 
1430DCA_se2_ag3_m_031482.8396I'd stay in school1483.6680
1432 1483.7936stay in university, in college1485.0421 
1434 1485.4103that's for sure.1486.0146 
1435DCA_int_011486.1922Uh-huh, think it would have been worth it?1487.8524
1436DCA_se2_ag3_m_031488.2226Yeah.1488.5587
1437DCA_int_011490.6917That was kind of rough at the time though?1492.1517
1438DCA_se2_ag3_m_031493.3692Well I made a mistake when I went in, I went in uh1495.3621
1440 1496.3586into the second half1497.1872 
1442 1497.2830of the course.1498.1634 
1444 1498.6851I [started in February] instead of uh1500.3859 
1445DCA_int_011498.8372[Oh.]1499.4135
1446DCA_se2_ag3_m_031500.5700September.1501.1156
1447DCA_int_011501.3223Oh.1501.7345
1448DCA_se2_ag3_m_031501.8575And as a uh counselor said I should be able to uh do the work, so what and so on, it didn't come quite that easily.1506.0829
1450 1506.5397Plus I had been married and uh had1508.0979 
1452 1508.2260other things on my mind, I'd had a break up in the marriage so I wasn't actually1511.5395 
1454 1512.0652applying myself1512.9897 
1456 1513.0697as I could.1513.7939 
1457DCA_int_011513.8421Mm-hm.1514.2983
1458DCA_se2_ag3_m_031514.2997So instead of frustrating myself I just dropped out.1516.3779
1460 1517.4094But if I had to1517.9377 
1462 1518.0697do it all over, plus I was twenty five years old1519.9163 
1463DCA_int_011520.1147Mm-hm.1520.8030
1464DCA_se2_ag3_m_031520.4188when I started.1520.9991
1465 1521.6756So if I had it to do all over again, I'd start1523.5925
1467 1523.6685when I came out of high school, I came out of high school when I was sixteen1526.0056 
1469 1526.0859almost seventeen,1526.8382 
1470DCA_int_011527.0463Mm.1527.5025
1471DCA_se2_ag3_m_031527.2824I'd start1527.8310
1472 1527.9387shortly after then,1528.8283
1474 1529.0993and then I think I could've breezed through1530.4750 
1476 1530.8363you know with more understanding and more anxiety and everything else.1533.5371 
1477DCA_int_011533.8537Mm-hm.1534.4202
1478DCA_se2_ag3_m_031534.5580So if I had to do it all over again I'd1535.7145
1480 1535.9601definitely1536.4761 
1482 1536.9406do that.1537.2968 
1483DCA_int_011538.3175What kind of a1539.0578
1485 1539.5020position would you have aimed at?1540.8706 
1486DCA_se2_ag3_m_031541.3844Business.1541.8566
1488 1542.9051I was taking uh business administration.1544.7612 
1489DCA_int_011545.0581Mm-hm.1545.6008
1491 1546.9431Good.1547.3393 
1493 1548.6239Um1549.1348 
1495 1550.4890What did you wanna be when you were a kid, do you remember?1552.8781 
1496DCA_se2_ag3_m_031553.7345A teacher.1554.1989
1498 1555.7877When I was in kindergarten I wanted to be a teacher.1557.4102 
1499DCA_int_011557.7806Mm-hm.1558.3156
1500DCA_se2_ag3_m_031558.3889I thought it was fascinating.1559.4214
1501DCA_int_011559.3348Mm-hm.1559.9111
1502 1560.8235Changed your mind as you got older?1562.1835
1503DCA_se2_ag3_m_031562.5645Yeah.1562.9327
1504DCA_int_011564.2333Well that's not unusual.1565.4598
1506 1567.8444Uh if you had all the money1569.9589 
1508 1570.2218that you wanted, if I could give you all the money1572.3327 
1510 1572.8030that you could possibly use1574.2455 
1512 1574.4957what would you do with it?1575.4231 
1514 1577.8603Use your imagination a little <laugh>1579.7716 
1515DCA_se2_ag3_m_031580.5055All the money?1581.4212
1516DCA_int_011581.4379Mm-hm.1582.1069
1517DCA_se2_ag3_m_031582.9028Well this is a pretty good time to ask me that with all those people down on the uh1585.8068
1519 1585.8842monument uh1586.7166 
1521 1586.7421reflecting pool <laugh>1588.4301 
1522DCA_int_011587.1303<laugh>1588.7470
1523DCA_se2_ag3_m_031588.7750I'd donate quite a bit of it to them to the /???/ that's for sure,1591.5138
1525 1592.6303and I would1593.1905 
1527 1593.3801uh1593.8053 
1529 1593.9364provide1594.4926 
1531 1594.7648very1595.4062 
1533 1595.7292well for my family,1596.6656 
1535 1596.8579house uh1597.7263 
1537 1598.1746and all the other1598.8709 
1539 1599.7713necessities and some luxuries for them.1601.6042 
1541 1603.3079And then I'm sure I would uh1604.6126 
1543 1605.0447save quite a bit1605.9532 
1545 1606.3455as well as donating to1607.3570 
1547 1607.4940worthy1607.9262 
1549 1608.1423causes.1608.5826 
1550DCA_int_011608.6306Mm-hm.1609.1868
1551DCA_se2_ag3_m_031609.4109I would definitely try to make my family very happy1610.9771
1553 1611.2052and comfortable.1611.7455 
1554DCA_int_011611.8816Mm-hm.1612.4316
1555DCA_se2_ag3_m_031613.1742And1613.6333
1557 1613.7266donate to others1614.5049 
1559 1614.5868and1615.0918 
1561 1616.2866save.1616.7468 
1562DCA_int_011618.2395Three big categories, huh?1619.5561
1563DCA_se2_ag3_m_031619.6881Pardon?1620.0887
1564DCA_int_011620.2084Three big categories.1621.2769
1565DCA_se2_ag3_m_031621.2809Yes.1621.7090
1566DCA_int_011622.8526Well that's good, a lot of people just think of themselves really.1625.4978
1568 1626.1101It's interesting to meet somebody that would1627.7218 
1570 1627.8658try to use it for someone else.1629.0824 
1571DCA_se2_ag3_m_031628.9583Well, I lost my mother when I was nine and my father wasn't very1632.0930
1572 1632.3399much around and so, people do it for me all my life so it's a natural1635.2147
1574 1635.5709thing with me.1636.0833 
1575DCA_int_011637.1318/inaudible/1638.3959
1576DCA_se2_ag3_m_031637.1358I like people and they've always treated me1638.4965
1577 1638.9007very nicely.1639.4724
1578DCA_int_011639.6758Hm.1640.0705
1580 1640.5241Great.1640.8618 
1582 1642.4905What do you do in a day's work?1643.9911 
1584 1644.1553When you get up,1644.9549 
1586 1645.1773how do you start?1646.2381 
1588 1646.5379What goes on?1647.3637 
1590 1647.8467I guess today would be kind of unusual as a day <laugh>1650.0700 
1591DCA_se2_ag3_m_031650.0317<laugh>1650.6412
1592 1651.3123Well,1651.8290
1594 1652.2182the first thing you do you know you get in your car and make sure it's pretty clean1654.9909 
1596 1655.7759you start your manifest that's your record your1657.8276 
1598 1657.9476trips for the day1658.7226 
1600 1660.0808and you1660.5902 
1602 1661.0453start your motor and you drive.1662.3224 
1603DCA_int_011662.5062Mm-hm.1662.8617
1604DCA_se2_ag3_m_031662.8103That's it.1663.2921
1605DCA_int_011663.5026Where do you go first?1664.7043
1607 1664.8072Do you go right to a hotel or?1666.1679 
1608DCA_se2_ag3_m_031666.9017Well,1667.6460
1610 1668.0582no.1668.3978 
1612 1668.6865I1669.1667 
1614 1669.6830live1670.0952 
1616 1670.8570in the second alphabet1671.7614 
1618 1672.2696up on the hill1672.8966 
1620 1673.0420Georgia Avenue1673.6343 
1622 1673.7223by Howard University,1674.6722 
1624 1675.4326and I go over to Fourteenth Street which is a good1677.0293 
1626 1677.1163hacking street1677.7366 
1628 1678.5290in the morning,1679.0332 
1629DCA_int_011679.2813Mm-hm.1679.7211
1630DCA_se2_ag3_m_031679.8776this is when I leave directly from home1681.2824
1631DCA_int_011681.3823Yeah.1681.8040
1632DCA_se2_ag3_m_031681.8825and I just cruise down Fourteenth street1683.1311
1634 1683.2912til I1683.5755 
1636 1683.6236pick up the first fare.1684.3318 
1638 1685.1002If I don't1685.6445 
1640 1685.7300pick up a fare before I get to a hotel1687.2070 
1642 1687.2929yeah1687.4862 
1644 1687.5647I'll go to a hotel or a business office or1689.5111 
1646 1690.0055something like that,1690.5047 
1647DCA_int_011690.6938Mm-hm.1691.1205
1648DCA_se2_ag3_m_031691.5142where people usually are1692.7140
1650 1692.8283moving around1693.5365 
1652 1693.7207and they use cabs1694.7627 
1654 1695.0653quite uh1695.6018 
1656 1695.7136a bit.1695.9977 
1657DCA_int_011696.2378Mm-hm.1696.6848
1658DCA_se2_ag3_m_031697.0584I don't head for the1697.7855
1660 1697.9469industrial centers that don't start until you know1699.8117 
1662 1699.8918later1700.2214 
1664 1700.3134or something like that, you know the sh- shopping area like that.1702.4664 
1665DCA_int_011702.5905Yeah.1703.0067
1666DCA_se2_ag3_m_031705.5934And right now I take my wife to work in the morning,1707.4350
1668 1708.0240and I take my daughter to school1709.3722 
1670 1709.9288after I let the wife out.1710.6852 
1672 1711.3857So I start1712.1781 
1674 1713.2226almost up1713.6468 
1676 1713.7028near Maryland District line1714.7513 
1677DCA_int_011714.8368Mm-hm.1715.2050
1678DCA_se2_ag3_m_031715.0809so I just come down Georgia Avenue1716.4416
1679DCA_int_011716.8177Mm-hm.1717.3257
1680DCA_se2_ag3_m_031717.5661and you just pick up1718.2304
1682 1718.2864any- as I said anybody that1719.4044 
1684 1719.5805hails a cab.1720.1768 
1685DCA_int_011720.4409Mm-hm.1720.9331
1686DCA_se2_ag3_m_031720.7225You have no idea where you're going or1722.2623
1687 1722.3272how long you1722.9368
1689 1723.0276take you to get there like [this you just]1724.5006 
1690DCA_int_011723.7359[Mm-hm.]1724.4040
1691DCA_se2_ag3_m_031724.8324start like that.1725.3911
1692DCA_int_011725.5129Mm-hm.1726.0702
1693DCA_se2_ag3_m_031725.8491And once you start rolling you just cruise1727.3061
1694DCA_int_011727.5459Mm-hm.1728.0219
1695DCA_se2_ag3_m_031728.0061like that.1728.3863
1696DCA_int_011729.7391Do you usually have to1730.7129
1698 1731.0117wait1731.4119 
1700 1731.6680very long between fares or does it usually keep busy?1734.6271 
1701DCA_se2_ag3_m_031735.0298Well that's like any business you1736.6189
1702DCA_int_011735.0378/inaudible/1736.4383
1704 1736.5945[Sometimes up, mm-hm.]1738.5074 
1705DCA_se2_ag3_m_031736.7586[have good days, you have bad days] slow days, fast days.1739.8236
1706DCA_int_011739.8895Mm-hm.1740.5034
1708 1740.9155Is there any particular kind of day like weather or anything that makes it good or bad?1744.8693 
1709DCA_se2_ag3_m_031747.4800Weather doesn't make it particularly1749.0401
1711 1749.2423good.1749.4824 
1713 1750.1387It can make it bad as well as good.1751.3593 
1714DCA_int_011751.5168Mm-hm.1752.0175
1715DCA_se2_ag3_m_031752.2372Like a snowy day, you have plenty of business.,1753.8729
1717 1754.1315rainy day you have plenty of business1755.3401 
1719 1755.3841but you can't move1756.0836 
1720DCA_int_011756.4606Mm-hm.1756.8968
1721DCA_se2_ag3_m_031757.1169so uh you have1758.1016
1722DCA_int_011758.1136[People /??/]1758.9916
1723DCA_se2_ag3_m_031758.2216[people crying] for a cab but you get the p- passenger,1760.8228
1724 1760.9629could take you half hour forty five minutes to make uh1762.9598
1726 1763.1882one trip.1763.6123 
1728 1763.9805So you- it's plenty of business1765.1771 
1730 1765.2211there1765.5492 
1732 1765.6093but you cannot1766.2135 
1734 1766.6578[handle it.]1767.1062 
1735DCA_int_011766.7353[You won't] get it.1767.5308
1736DCA_se2_ag3_m_031767.6397Right.1767.8598
1737DCA_int_011769.2044Huh I never thought of it that way.1770.6832
1738DCA_se2_ag3_m_031770.6881So good weather is better1771.7809
1740 1771.9847[for-]1772.4128 
1741DCA_int_011772.0847[Good] weather is better all [around?]1773.4613
1742DCA_se2_ag3_m_031773.1132[for hacking]1773.5294
1743 1773.6054all the way around yes.1774.4631
1744DCA_int_011774.4793Hm /inaudible/1775.4241
1746 1776.3442learn something new all the time <laugh>1777.8927 
1747DCA_se2_ag3_m_031777.7488You know you take like we have uh group riding in Washington,1780.1753
1748 1780.6704now if I can ride1781.5228
1750 1782.4632say from the Dupont Plaza where you saw me,1784.3511 
1751DCA_int_011784.3751Mm-hm.1784.8113
1752DCA_se2_ag3_m_031784.8953to the Mayflower1785.6757
1754 1785.8397with five people,1786.5961 
1756 1786.7041I pick up five people there and go to the Statler,1788.4209 
1758 1789.0067and five people there to the Dupont Plaza1790.3513 
1760 1790.5394a ride like this,1791.2184 
1762 1791.3798well I'll make a bundle.1792.2520 
1763DCA_int_011792.4363Mm-hm.1792.7964
1764DCA_se2_ag3_m_031792.8805But you get this once every ten years.1794.4435
1765DCA_int_011794.5895Mm. <laugh>1796.3023
1766DCA_se2_ag3_m_031794.8056So therefore usually you get one going to the end of the city1797.0906
1767 1797.3390for a dollar and fifty cents1798.3839
1769 1798.5676and by the time you get back you wasted an hour for a dollar and fifty cents.1800.9549 
1770DCA_int_011801.0487Mm-hm.1801.4209
1771DCA_se2_ag3_m_031801.3408So in this th-1801.9504
1772 1802.0413th- weather does not make1803.0859
1774 1803.1697business that1803.6339 
1776 1803.9863uh1804.4579 
1778 1804.6426that much1805.2709 
1780 1805.3149better.1805.6400 
1781DCA_int_011805.8311Yeah it makes sense now that you explain it.1807.6960
1783 1808.7340It really does.1809.5398 
1785 1810.9544How does your family celebrate Christmas?1812.9925 
1787 1813.2110So starting with the day before and going through Christmas Day what all would you do?1817.0448 
1788DCA_se2_ag3_m_031818.7030Well the children they uh mostly1820.7615
1790 1821.9580wrapping their own presents for1823.8330 
1792 1824.8636whomever they're giving them1825.9593 
1793DCA_int_011826.0601Mm-hm.1826.5507
1794DCA_se2_ag3_m_031827.0206and1827.5690
1796 1828.3094the wife and I we're just1829.3859 
1798 1830.0782making last uh1831.3468 
1800 1831.4428minute preparations like uh maybe shopping or1833.8362 
1802 1833.8922the tree or1834.6835 
1804 1835.1808something like that,1835.8077 
1806 1836.8550and the children go to bed1837.7780 
1808 1838.3117and we stay up and put up the tree and1839.9420 
1810 1840.7183decorate it1841.2785 
1812 1841.8188and1842.4559 
1814 1842.5632put the presents under and1843.8572 
1816 1844.3375try to get to bed.1845.0152 
1818 1845.1859If there's uh <laugh> any time left, we'll get to bed.1848.2944 
1819DCA_int_011845.2994Mm-hm.1846.2438
1821 1847.5404<laugh>1848.2472 
1822 1848.4409Uh-huh.1849.1041
1823DCA_se2_ag3_m_031848.7530But mostly just uh1849.5802
1824 1850.7421fixing up the1851.5040
1826 1851.5665tree and1852.1775 
1828 1852.2308presents1852.6910 
1829DCA_int_011852.6750Mm-hm.1853.2744
1830DCA_se2_ag3_m_031853.2593that's mostly-1853.8151
1831 1854.3920and the house.1855.1804
1832DCA_int_011855.1844Yeah.1855.5206
1834 1856.8612What happens the next day?1857.9801 
1835DCA_se2_ag3_m_031858.5142Christmas?1859.0860
1837 1859.9468Well,1860.4431 
1839 1861.6436you just get a big uh1862.6044 
1841 1862.7016charge out of seeing the smiley ha- smiling happy faces when they come downstairs, ooh eeh you know all like this <laugh>1868.5178 
1842DCA_int_011864.7120Uh-huh.1865.6244
1844 1866.6569Ooh. <laugh>1868.9816 
1845DCA_se2_ag3_m_031869.3862and unwrap the presents and1871.1494
1847 1871.2674you know laughing, talking,1872.7839 
1849 1872.8975so forth and so on,1873.6405 
1851 1873.7739that's about the1874.4121 
1853 1874.6143next day-1875.1345 
1855 1875.2786next morning,1875.8997 
1857 1877.0221and as the day goes on you know you might have1878.8667 
1859 1879.0566well naturally you have uh1880.1251 
1861 1881.0030conversations you might look at television, might sing a carol, you might1883.8763 
1863 1884.2324do anything til dinner's ready,1885.3452 
1865 1885.5857and you eat dinner,1886.2514 
1867 1887.2736and then1887.7901 
1869 1889.2390that's about the day.1889.9980 
1870DCA_int_011890.0036Mm-hm.1890.4607
1871DCA_se2_ag3_m_031890.7199Like that.1891.0721
1872DCA_int_011891.1601Relatives visit each other that day?1893.1396
1873DCA_se2_ag3_m_031893.5212Well1893.9014
1875 1894.0214/?/ all the relatives1895.5220 
1877 1895.6474have their own families,1896.6599 
1879 1896.8560so on Christmas Day itself1898.3319 
1881 1898.8529we not- may not see1899.8493 
1883 1900.3216many1900.6177 
1885 1900.8258uh people1901.4661 
1886DCA_int_011901.3840Mm-hm.1902.0590
1887DCA_se2_ag3_m_031902.0803but1902.3124
1889 1902.3645during the holidays1903.3529 
1891 1903.5170we always see just about all of them.1905.1778 
1892DCA_int_011905.3461Mm-hm.1905.8743
1893DCA_se2_ag3_m_031905.8823One will visit this hou- /??/ maybe everybody visit one house one night and then the next house1909.4360
1895 1909.6881so everybody sees everybody during the holidays,1911.7025 
1897 1911.9746but on Christmas Day itself,1913.1672 
1898DCA_int_011913.1474You don't spend it with [/them?/]1914.3798
1899DCA_se2_ag3_m_031913.8957[no] it's mostly family1915.0045
1900 1915.2283right.1915.4765
1901DCA_int_011915.9687Hm.1916.3550
1902DCA_se2_ag3_m_031916.5289Or maybe a friend might drop in,1918.0716
1903DCA_int_011917.8951Uh-huh.1918.4683
1904DCA_se2_ag3_m_031918.1352it's mostly friends will drop in on Christmas Day1919.8593
1905 1920.0175rather than family.1920.6982
1906DCA_int_011920.6886Mm-hm.1921.1167
1907DCA_se2_ag3_m_031921.3889Cause as I say everybody has a family with their own children and1923.9881
1909 1924.4023responsibilities and you know work and all this and1926.8099 
1911 1927.4159they spend most of their time home.1928.5393 
1912DCA_int_011928.8566Hm.1929.2007
1914 1930.7137Different people do it different ways, some people Christmas is a big family day1934.1502 
1915DCA_se2_ag3_m_031934.3994True.1934.8050
1916DCA_int_011934.7130/?/ for the big family not just their own.1936.9663
1917 1937.6984I think I like it better your way. <laugh>1939.7768
1918DCA_se2_ag3_m_031938.9484<laugh>1940.2241
1919DCA_int_011942.4463What was the best thing you ever got for Christmas, do you remember?1945.2951
1920DCA_se2_ag3_m_031948.4025Yeah when I was about uh1949.8554
1922 1950.2436fifteen years old,1951.1880 
1924 1952.1765my sister was taking care of me1953.3810 
1926 1953.7627my older sister1954.6111 
1928 1955.7676and naturally being sort of a1956.9962 
1930 1957.2525outsider you know and she had four children of her own,1959.3859 
1932 1959.6536I expected something you always get a token you know for Christmas so what and so on but uh she gave me a watch, wristwatch.1964.1539 
1933DCA_int_011964.2092Mm.1964.5387
1934DCA_se2_ag3_m_031964.7710And I was quite surprised and glad and everything else.1966.9275
1936 1967.1321I think that's the1967.7590 
1938 1968.5102most surprising if not the best1969.7988 
1939DCA_int_011969.8028Mm-hm.1970.2916
1940DCA_se2_ag3_m_031970.3790Christmas present I ever got.1971.2208
1941DCA_int_011971.3477Hm.1971.7787
1943 1972.1561Good.1972.5082 
1945 1973.8076Something a little more serious, were you ever in a situation where you thought that you might be killed or you might die?1979.1263 
1947 1980.3643You thought you were in danger of dying?1982.7054 
1948DCA_se2_ag3_m_031984.5025I was in World War II in France where a sniper was shooting at us every uh1987.6981
1950 1988.0096other minute.1988.6452 
1951DCA_int_011989.1101Oh yeah?1989.6557
1952DCA_se2_ag3_m_031990.0745I didn't think about dying I just realized I could be hurt1992.1643
1954 1992.3931but uh,1992.8372 
1956 1993.6176no I've never been in a situation where I actually thought I was gonna die.1995.4425 
1958 1995.6508No.1995.8869 
1960 1997.0114I mean I knew I was in situations where1998.3154 
1962 1999.0284I could be killed,1999.7127 
1964 2000.5025but I never thought about2001.2829 
1966 2002.1753dying,2002.5497 
1968 2002.9237that I'd be2003.3198 
1970 2003.6400killed, no.2004.2132 
1971DCA_int_012004.2965Mm-hm.2004.7407
1973 2006.2214Sometimes people say that2007.3505 
1975 2008.4707whatever's gonna happen in the future is gonna happen, you can't do anything about it, do you agree with that?2012.7446 
1976DCA_se2_ag3_m_032012.7289I'm pretty much of a fatalist in that way.2014.3416
1977DCA_int_012014.4977Mm-hm.2015.0912
1978DCA_se2_ag3_m_032015.3781I mean I'm not gonna go out here and try to be reckless to the point of trying fate,2018.8364
1980 2019.2854but I do believe that uh2020.7352 
1982 2021.6907very much what is gonna happen to you is going to2023.9077 
1984 2023.9838happen.2024.3049 
1985DCA_int_012024.6163Mm-hm.2025.1285
1987 2026.2010You wouldn't try to2027.0558 
1989 2027.4591change too much of -2028.7157 
1991 2029.0318of the future?2029.8721 
1993 2030.9847Would you?2031.3969 
1994DCA_se2_ag3_m_032032.5497You mean as far as day to day living is concerned?2034.2120
1995DCA_int_012034.9788Mm.2035.4082
1996DCA_se2_ag3_m_032035.5871Well,2036.0892
1998 2036.7851only thing that I do dangerous is drive and I'm not gonna stop driving <laugh>2041.0311 
1999DCA_int_012038.8781<laugh>2040.6989
2000 2041.1593Mm-hm.2041.6716
2001DCA_se2_ag3_m_032041.6956So no I2042.6229
2003 2043.8206wouldn't do anything to change the future, no.2045.5505