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1DCA_int_010.5204Okay I'm gonna try to take you way back and ask you3.2303
3 3.8025what kinds of games that did you play when you were a little boy?6.8060 
5 7.5605You remember that?8.4467 
6DCA_se2_ag4_m_0110.9388Baseball and12.3598
8 13.6623running.14.2984 
9DCA_int_0114.7228Mm-hm.15.3988
11 16.6272Was there a game that you remember playing where19.0419 
13 19.6545uh one kid would have to chase the other kids?21.9545 
14DCA_se2_ag4_m_0126.1111Yes such as27.2757
16 28.1257we called it28.8750 
18 29.3142hi spy.30.5828 
19DCA_int_0130.6657Hi spy, how did you play hi spy?32.6544
20DCA_se2_ag4_m_0133.0555Um33.5154
21DCA_int_0133.5477Do you remember?34.2570
22DCA_se2_ag4_m_0135.7885running from one37.1691
24 38.2376sudden spot to another.39.9982 
25DCA_int_0140.5622Mm-hm.41.1609
26DCA_se2_ag4_m_0142.1869[and tagging] uh43.7674
27DCA_int_0142.1869[And what did you-]43.1669
28DCA_se2_ag4_m_0144.7159one out45.4439
30 45.6659so.45.9670 
31DCA_int_0145.9341Mm-hm.46.4194
32 46.9665Did one kid have to be it?48.3185
34 50.3017Did one kid have to chase the other or how did that work?52.8150 
35DCA_se2_ag4_m_0154.4092Well sometimes it would be56.1399
37 56.3141several of us playing and57.8101 
38DCA_int_0157.8106Huh.58.2866
39DCA_se2_ag4_m_0158.2267t- called it tag.59.5708
40DCA_int_0159.9876Uh-huh.60.6142
42 61.5158What happened if somebody got tagged?63.3811 
43DCA_se2_ag4_m_0164.7733They called him out.65.9506
44DCA_int_0166.2377Oh.66.6739
46 66.8820Mm-hm.67.4007 
48 69.3168Uh how did you-70.1314 
50 71.3981did you play any games where w- a bunch of kids had to hide and one kid had to go find him?76.1135 
51DCA_se2_ag4_m_0177.1196Yes.77.6916
52DCA_int_0178.2682What's that called?79.1468
53DCA_se2_ag4_m_0183.2438Ah h- hi- uh85.6145
55 86.8111hi spy I think [uh.]88.6240 
56DCA_int_0188.3798[Uh-huh.]89.0732
57 89.6604How did that work, do you remember?91.3010
59 93.1418Same way as the other one?94.2818 
60DCA_se2_ag4_m_0194.3859Well you're supposed to hide behind a bush and they find you.97.5994
61DCA_int_0197.8995Uh-huh what happens if they find you?99.6683
62DCA_se2_ag4_m_01102.1591Uh102.7244
64 102.8411y- you get so many counts104.7704 
65DCA_int_01105.5503Mm-hm.106.1716
66DCA_se2_ag4_m_01106.9926for that.107.5499
67DCA_int_01109.8299Good.110.3219
69 111.2903Um,111.8997 
71 114.0234let's see uh,115.0207 
73 117.4623what are your favorite TV programs?119.5663 
74DCA_se2_ag4_m_01121.6683The news.122.4166
75DCA_int_01122.8883The news?123.5737
77 123.8328What you were watching right, just now.125.6536 
78DCA_se2_ag4_m_01125.6096That's right.126.3900
79DCA_int_01126.9662Um,127.4929
81 128.3165let's see,128.9271 
83 130.7096uh you do ever watch any131.9998 
85 132.1879stories- programs with stories on it?134.5850 
87 135.3190Like uh-136.4133 
89 136.9037uh Mission Impossible138.5664 
91 140.1052or um140.9072 
93 141.6795Bonanza or any of those?143.1442 
94DCA_se2_ag4_m_01144.1343Once in a while.145.1783
95DCA_int_01145.9431Do you remember one uh-147.3753
97 148.4318one story program that you could tell me about?151.2305 
99 153.1156Any of those stories?154.2969 
100DCA_se2_ag4_m_01155.9548Not particularly.157.2468
101DCA_int_01157.5395Uh-huh.158.2849
103 160.0543Do you go to movies?160.9823 
105 161.7711Been to the movies162.6151 
107 163.1334recently?163.8494 
108DCA_se2_ag4_m_01164.7581Not for some time.166.0208
109DCA_int_01166.1663Mm-hm.166.7866
111 167.8350Do you remember the best movie you ever saw?169.8564 
112DCA_se2_ag4_m_01172.5530It's been so long I just couldn't recall it [right now.]175.8063
113DCA_int_01175.2827[/inaudible/]176.0849
114DCA_se2_ag4_m_01176.3098Huh.176.5511
115DCA_int_01178.2372Do you have a pet now or179.4959
117 179.8097did you ever have a pet as a child?181.5865 
118DCA_se2_ag4_m_01182.0281Beg pardon?182.6964
119DCA_int_01182.8805Did you ever have a pet as a child or do you have one now?185.4885
120DCA_se2_ag4_m_01185.9219Pet?186.2966
121DCA_int_01186.5342Yeah, a dog or something?188.2769
122DCA_se2_ag4_m_01190.9139No.191.6158
124 192.1361Not particularly no.193.4647 
125DCA_int_01193.4327Mm-hm.194.0430
126 197.4882Uh what did you study in school, do you remember?200.0333
128 201.6915Elementary school?203.2248 
129DCA_se2_ag4_m_01205.1451Mathematics and history and207.7740
131 207.8901/geogr-/208.5128 
133 208.6441uh209.0161 
134DCA_int_01210.1168Mm-hm.210.7608
135DCA_se2_ag4_m_01210.7691spelling,211.6091
137 211.7034/inaudible/212.3597 
138DCA_int_01214.1261Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot?216.1381
140 217.3436Always yelling at the kids?218.7569 
141DCA_se2_ag4_m_01220.7105I didn't understand.221.8199
142DCA_int_01221.8431Did you ever have a teacher that hollered at- at the kids that you remember?225.2286
144 226.7427A teacher that was known for hollering at the kids and everything?230.0901 
145DCA_se2_ag4_m_01230.6141No <laugh>231.6875
147 232.7471you're going back to over sixty five [years ago] now so uh236.7458 
148DCA_int_01234.9559Yeah.235.3881
149DCA_se2_ag4_m_01236.8208no I'll say no.238.3514
150DCA_int_01238.6574Mm-hm.239.4547
152 240.8000Do you remember the best teacher you ever had?242.8133 
153DCA_se2_ag4_m_01243.5693Yes.244.1426
154DCA_int_01244.9254What was good about her?246.1134
155DCA_se2_ag4_m_01248.2949She was uh249.4523
157 251.0998exact251.8477 
159 255.4255/spunctuous/256.4149 
160DCA_int_01257.2941Mm-hm.257.8835
161DCA_se2_ag4_m_01258.3386When she said anything she'll mean it.260.3706
162DCA_int_01260.5172Mm-hm.261.2506
164 261.4016Mm-hm.261.8630 
166 264.1205Do you think that's a good way to be for a teacher?266.3579 
167DCA_se2_ag4_m_01267.4301I think so.268.4234
168DCA_int_01268.5901Mm-hm.269.3354
170 271.0312Good.271.4754 
172 272.0074You ever have a teacher that you couldn't stand?274.1570 
173DCA_se2_ag4_m_01275.5531No I276.6704
175 276.8671always got along with them pretty good.278.8200 
176DCA_int_01279.1921Well that's good.280.1228
178 284.5240Uh284.8507 
180 285.4964is there a group of people that you287.5204 
182 288.1257used to associate with as a child?290.2670 
183DCA_se2_ag4_m_01292.6249Very few, most- most all of 'em dead.295.6198
184DCA_int_01296.0745Mm-hm.296.6745
186 297.4669How about um when you were working was there a group that300.1241 
188 301.2961that you302.1161 
190 302.6928went with?303.4261 
192 304.3135Stayed with?305.0509 
193DCA_se2_ag4_m_01306.5402When I was working?307.7015
194DCA_int_01307.8085Yeah.308.2247
195DCA_se2_ag4_m_01309.1532<clears throat>309.6891
197 310.0856There's310.5549 
199 311.1421quite a few of 'em that's living,312.5634 
201 312.9104I've been retired ten years.314.6832 
202DCA_int_01314.9113Mm-hm.315.6806
204 317.1321Now was there one person in that group that everybody looked up to as the leader?321.0414 
206 323.0701/And why?/323.5539 
207DCA_se2_ag4_m_01324.4088Well not particularly but it326.1737
209 326.7897sometimes it's always one328.6524 
211 329.6230that-329.8631 
213 331.0093that331.1934 
215 331.7016people decide.332.7469 
216DCA_int_01332.9358Mm-hm.333.4651
218 334.5045[You ever think about] what-335.5250 
219DCA_se2_ag4_m_01334.5886[So.]335.0768
220DCA_int_01335.8091what makes a person336.9577
222 338.8161uh become the type of person that others look up to?341.8561 
224 343.9559You have any ideas on that?345.6207 
225DCA_se2_ag4_m_01347.5893W- w- well,348.7899
227 351.0045I guess that could be measured out in353.3725 
229 353.4897more than one thing.354.7430 
230DCA_int_01355.1900Mm-hm.355.7740
231DCA_se2_ag4_m_01356.1504His356.6787
233 357.0388personality and-358.7028 
235 360.6840and his loyalty-362.3065 
237 362.3745/loyar/363.1109 
239 363.1869loyalty,364.3322 
240DCA_int_01364.2994Mm-hm.364.8877
241DCA_se2_ag4_m_01365.9202and his firmness.367.1065
242DCA_int_01367.9869Mm-hm.368.6872
244 370.2498Well that's good.371.0898 
246 375.5737If you could do your whole life over again what would you want to be?379.0593 
248 381.2980You ever think about that?382.4566 
249DCA_se2_ag4_m_01382.8144A preacher.383.5398
250DCA_int_01383.9549A preacher?384.6249
252 386.0015And how-386.5618 
254 387.2661<clears throat>387.7623 
256 388.8628what would you have to do to be a preacher?390.7548 
257DCA_se2_ag4_m_01396.0831Well there's several things you have to do I-398.8163
259 400.7650first you have to be a402.3316 
261 403.8523a good Christian404.9963 
262DCA_int_01405.4547Mm-hm.406.0733
264 410.3684Well that's good to hear /though/.411.5978 
266 412.6775I'm a church going man myself.414.7108 
268 417.3031/That's good/418.2756 
270 421.8549Did you wanna be a preacher back when you-424.1039 
272 424.7899back when you were younger?426.0525 
274 426.9664Or did that come on you later on?428.6992 
275DCA_se2_ag4_m_01429.2114<laugh>429.6954
277 430.1518I thought of it several times when I was young.432.7067 
278DCA_int_01433.1389Mm-hm.433.6949
279DCA_se2_ag4_m_01434.0353My father was a preacher.435.5326
280DCA_int_01435.7857Oh.436.2699
281DCA_se2_ag4_m_01437.8827But I never did438.9427
283 439.9132get into the440.7733 
285 443.5728ministry.444.3283 
286DCA_int_01444.6691Mm-hm.445.4264
288 448.9588When you were working um450.5081 
290 450.6353what was your job451.7567 
292 452.3721like, what did you do in a day's work?454.5590 
293DCA_se2_ag4_m_01458.2901<clears throat>458.7103
295 459.0425for the last459.7358 
297 460.7513forty years I worked462.0079 
299 463.4459mostly on the464.4864 
301 465.0266railroads,465.8680 
303 466.2312a dining car waiter467.4478 
304DCA_int_01467.8119Mm-hm.468.3626
305DCA_se2_ag4_m_01469.0461although I worked in470.4075
307 471.1391restaurants and hotels and473.3401 
309 476.0048various places.477.2494 
310DCA_int_01478.3396Well how does that work on a dining car? I've always wondered about that.481.7470
312 482.2910Um482.7177 
314 483.5476do they484.1089 
316 484.1839bring the food on all cooked or do they cook right on the train?487.2745 
317DCA_se2_ag4_m_01487.3590Cook it right on the train.488.7003
318DCA_int_01488.8213Oh yeah?489.3866
319DCA_se2_ag4_m_01489.7297They do bring it on now491.2457
321 491.6946I understand492.7413 
323 493.9472uh494.6715 
325 494.9476uh495.2556 
327 495.3238quite a bit496.0038 
329 496.1322but not all the din- all the d-498.0731 
331 498.5933dining cars.499.4433 
332DCA_int_01501.2162Isn't it hard to-502.2055
334 502.6206isn't it hard on 'em back there?504.0869 
336 505.0153Kitchen of the train moving or506.6641 
338 507.0082isn't it too bad?507.9215 
339DCA_se2_ag4_m_01508.6428No that's been going on for years and years until it512.2859
341 513.2464[uh.]513.8586 
342DCA_int_01513.2464[Yeah I] guess so.514.5890
343 516.5917Well what would you do say in a typical day518.8143
345 519.6147um519.9588 
347 520.9993on your job, what all did you do?522.6761 
349 525.8752Now would you have to spend a couple days on a train or528.3779 
351 529.4526how did that work?530.3940 
352DCA_se2_ag4_m_01530.8330Depend on you know what run you have.533.0383
353DCA_int_01533.2456Uh-huh.533.8190
355 535.6187What kind of runs were there?537.1147 
356DCA_se2_ag4_m_01537.9115Well there's long runs and short runs540.4189
357DCA_int_01540.8905Mm-hm.541.4108
359 541.9070What about a long run, how does that work?544.2497 
360DCA_se2_ag4_m_01545.4124Well,545.9846
362 546.7666<clears throat>547.0199 
364 547.6150long run you would uh549.3238 
366 550.5524sometime take551.8119 
368 553.5714th-553.8395 
370 553.9932three to five days co- com-555.9741 
372 556.1983to complete the round- round trip558.5396 
373DCA_int_01558.8590Mm-hm.559.3510
374DCA_se2_ag4_m_01559.4953and then some would560.7999
376 560.9560only take about three days.562.7168 
377DCA_int_01563.2170Mm-hm.563.8477
379 565.9879What would you do- say you were going on a long run568.3053 
381 568.7209when you get up in-569.4933 
383 569.6974in the morning570.4183 
385 571.2317what all would you have to do?572.5064 
386DCA_se2_ag4_m_01574.0088Well you'd have to go through the regular routine of uh577.1448
388 577.2743preparing, getting ready to serve.579.2768 
389DCA_int_01581.0374Mm-hm.581.5001
391 581.7737Mm-hm how does that work?582.9017 
392DCA_se2_ag4_m_01584.6009Well585.2012
394 585.3052you-585.6453 
396 586.6856you get up in the morning and uh588.5123 
398 589.5366you590.0808 
400 591.3494get ready to serve and593.1102 
402 595.1867depending on what your position will be597.6174 
403DCA_int_01598.5037Mm-hm.599.1280
404DCA_se2_ag4_m_01598.7679whether you be a-600.0317
405 603.7499a pantryman or605.2526
406DCA_int_01607.7411Mm.608.0171
407DCA_se2_ag4_m_01608.0293or assigned to different609.6333
409 610.1623things610.6676 
411 610.9866that611.3293 
412DCA_int_01611.1945Mm-hm.611.7838
413DCA_se2_ag4_m_01611.8228contain to the service.613.4655
414DCA_int_01613.9134Mm-hm.614.4694
416 615.7702Mm-hm.616.3756 
418 618.2872Did you ever have anything embarrassing happen620.2845 
420 620.4959to you like621.1442 
422 622.0166spilling something on somebody or anything like that?624.3966 
423DCA_se2_ag4_m_01626.1020Mm.626.5900
425 627.1985<clears throat>627.5027 
427 627.5757well very fortunate I- I didn't,630.1014 
429 631.3541but631.6822 
431 632.0544I've seen it happen.633.2224 
432DCA_int_01633.5826Oh yeah?634.2093
434 635.9637What happens when somebody does that?637.7957 
435DCA_se2_ag4_m_01639.7330Well there's not much you can do uh641.8143
436DCA_int_01641.7259No I guess [/inaudible/]642.8993
437DCA_se2_ag4_m_01642.2958[so]642.6463
438 643.1505but uh643.9652
440 646.9977the railroads or the company649.3830 
442 649.7286usually650.5766 
444 651.3133take care of the652.3413 
446 653.1262ones that uh654.2427 
448 655.4529you spill something on.656.8015 
449DCA_int_01657.1697Mm-hm.657.7430
451 658.0541Mm-hm.658.5501 
453 661.0910Yeah that's good.661.9683 
455 664.7164Did you have a /?/ did you have your own place to sleep on a train?667.9897 
456DCA_se2_ag4_m_01668.9776Oh yes they carry a-670.4503
458 670.5704a dormitory car672.1010 
460 672.5393for the crew673.3500 
462 675.9166and uh676.5953 
464 676.9648we have beds and678.0734 
466 678.5096bunks678.9069 
468 680.9542sleep in.681.5064 
469DCA_int_01687.5885How does your family celebrate the holidays like Christmas and /?/691.2262
471 692.1344What do you do?692.8837 
472DCA_se2_ag4_m_01694.3749Uh we-695.0413
474 695.2695<clears throat>695.7441 
476 696.2619we usually celebrate the holidays698.7646 
478 699.0811very quietly,700.2654 
480 701.4299mostly home and702.9513 
482 705.6674and uh706.3954 
484 706.8239relaxing,707.8266 
486 709.3569maybe a few friends.710.7135 
487DCA_int_01711.0675Mm-hm.711.6035
489 712.5800Have any decorations?713.9166 
490DCA_se2_ag4_m_01717.7699Uh, decorations?719.1343
491DCA_int_01719.2983Yeah.719.6237
492DCA_se2_ag4_m_01721.3073I don't know just what you mean by that.723.3419
493DCA_int_01723.3458You know the tree and things like that.725.5565
494DCA_se2_ag4_m_01726.3070What?726.6271
495DCA_int_01726.4150Ever have a Christmas tree?727.5835
496DCA_se2_ag4_m_01727.5916Oh yes we put up a Christmas tree, yeah.730.0868
497DCA_int_01736.6705Well here's a more serious question,738.6110
499 739.3798uh were you ever in a situation where you thought you were gonna be killed or that you might die?743.5891 
500DCA_se2_ag4_m_01749.5715Well I don't- I wouldn't uh751.4301
502 754.0072I wouldn't say that I was in a situation756.7712 
504 758.0088where I thought I was about to be killed except761.0699 
506 763.2526the kind of work that I /fall on/ the railroad /you're/ subject get killed any time you know have a wreck or anything like that770.2454 
508 770.3933you know770.9391 
510 771.1696course you understand that when you take the job.773.7683 
511DCA_int_01773.9744Mm-hm.774.3866
513 778.7484Um779.1577 
515 781.0530sometimes people say that whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen and you can't do anything about it.785.7429 
517 786.5310Do you agree with that?787.4594 
518DCA_se2_ag4_m_01787.7275No I don't.788.6582
519DCA_int_01789.2603You think you can do something about it?790.8589
520DCA_se2_ag4_m_01792.0912Yes I think uh793.4958
522 794.1239a lot of things that795.3324 
524 795.7686that795.9807 
526 796.0568people796.6130 
528 797.7896uh798.2914 
530 798.3955huh,798.7048 
532 799.5840happen to confront-800.9577 
534 801.0599and801.1913 
536 801.4326uh be confronted with802.8500 
538 802.9745could be avoided.804.1614 
539DCA_int_01804.6648Mm-hm.805.1906