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1	DCA_int_01	0.3997	Okay /RD-NAME-2/. First of all, what kind of games did you play when you were about ten or so?	4.5295
3		4.7984	Do you remember?	5.5755
4	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	6.4268	Oh boy.	7.0420
6		7.6934	/Let's/ see. The main thing was	9.1562
8		9.5912	lot of bike racing.	10.5735
10		10.9108	[We used to]-	11.4924
11	DCA_int_01	10.9743	[Oh yeah?]	11.4679
12	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	11.6585	s- race around the block a lot.	13.0075
14		13.6215	And sometimes we play go carts. That was a lot of fun too. We didn't do that	16.6517
16		16.9792	as often because they were a lot harder to make.	19.1297
17	DCA_int_01	19.4553	[Mm-hm.]	19.8415
18	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	19.5580	[Took a lot] more time to do it, and I wasn't	21.2295
19		22.3340	as stable. I didn't have that much uh,	24.0398
21		24.7906	stick /unintelligible/ in the beginning.	26.4866
23		26.8727	So I just rode bikes, you know. It was a lot of fun.	28.7788
24	DCA_int_01	28.9987	Mm-hm.	29.3702
25	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	29.5266	And	29.9078
27		30.2793	other than that, we'd	31.0955
29		32.0223	I don't know, Follow the Leader a lot.	33.5130
31		34.1630	Hide and Go Seek with-	35.1160
33		35.9029	We	36.2255
35		36.6947	made up a lot of games, you know. Just, something that seemed like it might be fun at the time.	40.6517
37		41.1894	We'd do that, and you know	42.4601
39		43.2012	/get over with/.	43.8854
40	DCA_int_01	43.9881	What kind of stuff did you make up? Do you remember any of them?	46.3780
41	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	46.8228	Oh, boy!	47.5217
43		47.8296	Let's see.	48.3037
45		52.4318	Mm.	52.7348
47		53.6683	A lot of it wasn't really-	54.9928
49		55.4700	It was variations of Follow the Leader in most [cases. We-]	58.6175
50	DCA_int_01	57.8013	[Mm-hm.]	58.4025
51	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	59.8296	I don't know. Somebody go beat their head up against a tree or something, [you know.]	62.5892
52	DCA_int_01	62.0076	[<laugh>]	62.5843
53	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	63.0144	And	63.3712
55		63.8551	roll down hills, and uh,	65.3751
57		65.9078	we'd race a lot.	66.7436
59		67.2159	We didn't	67.7095
61		68.3791	skate as much. W- when I got older, I don't know, I stopped	71.0330
63		71.6683	skating, when I	72.7093
65		73.1914	got around ten.	74.0321
67		74.2520	I don't know, I just	74.9607
69		75.4005	forgot about it because /there's-/	76.4611
71		76.7202	got intrigued by my bicycle a lot.	78.3135
72	DCA_int_01	78.4827	Mm-hm.	78.7711
73	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	78.7809	It was more fun to work with, gave me a little bit more of a challenge, but	81.5130
74	DCA_int_01	81.6840	Mm-hm.	82.2070
75	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	82.7153	I don't know. We-	83.5803
77		84.2450	it wasn't really that much. We go with- You know, I go over my friend's house and	87.4396
79		89.4630	play different things. You couldn't really	90.9342
81		91.1621	remember exactly what they were, we just	92.8385
83		93.1611	played around.	93.6254
84	DCA_int_01	94.6029	How about um,	95.4142
86		95.8149	these go carts. They weren't these motorized things /you have nowadays/?	99.0276
87	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	98.9949	No, we	99.7622
88		100.4090	improvised	101.2187
90		101.6683	a lot in these things. Like, one board, uh,	104.1542
92		104.6919	with uh-	105.1904
94		106.4953	In most cases, we /won/- We'd take about four pieces of wood, and that was	109.8610
96		110.1445	most you needed.	110.9646
98		111.4396	We'd tear up an old wagon or something,	113.1356
100		113.4093	and	113.6879
102		114.1229	the axles from that, and we	115.4896
104		115.9734	get wheels from just about any where.	117.4054
106		117.7182	Let's see, uh,	118.6908
108		119.2969	a favorite- the favorite place,	120.9097
110		121.5238	/let's see/, baby carriages	122.8141
112		123.0926	were the best place. They didn't last too long because they were kind of frail in most cases, but	126.9684
114		127.7095	they were in	128.0516
116		128.3644	easy-	129.0633
118		129.7085	in easy access. And we got 'em easily. So we just,	132.5578
120		133.2256	you know, anything we could pick up and put on.	135.0877
121	DCA_int_01	135.2344	Mm-hm.	135.6742
123		136.7690	How did you work the bicycle races? Did you have a starter and-	139.6245
124	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	139.7584	Well, [they were usually relays.] They were usually [relays, and the] person who didn't have a bike, or the person too little	145.0906
125	DCA_int_01	139.9441	[/inaudible/.]	141.3908
127		142.3585	[Oh.]	142.8619
128	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	145.8219	would be the starter for the thing.	147.2554
130		147.7182	But, let's see, they were normally two groups in a round,	150.0691
132		150.5609	and three people in each group.	152.2960
134		153.0438	And	153.4299
136		153.8160	one person ride around a block,	155.2382
138		155.9616	then he'd hit the other person's hand. He'd ride around, you know, and we go /along/.	159.1415
140		159.5325	Then the last person on last leg, you know, the big thing,	161.9176
142		162.1815	would [finish it.]	162.8169
143	DCA_int_01	162.3263	[Mm.]	162.7515
144		163.1357	Mm-hm.	163.5685
146		163.6997	/Well that/ sounds like fun.	164.7310
147	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	165.7036	/Oh I know./ <laugh>	166.5295
148	DCA_int_01	166.0017	<laugh>	167.0378
149		167.2333	How'd you play Hide and Seek?	168.5463
150	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	169.9001	Well,	170.2911
152		170.5159	usual. There's uh-	171.8013
154		174.2646	One person would be chosen or something, in most cases. Or somebody want	177.9968
156		178.3927	to go looking for everybody else.	179.9420
158		180.8151	/Uh/,	181.0741
160		181.6459	we'd hide in different places. You know, all around.	183.8258
162		184.0212	Like, it was a	184.6077
164		184.9939	church being built	185.9713
166		186.6702	uh, not too far from me.	188.1445
168		188.7652	And everybody hide	189.6205
170		189.8746	in the foundation of it. And it	191.4093
172		191.6390	got kind of obvious after a little while, you know, where everybody was.	194.4182
174		194.9607	But	195.2539
176		196.3194	I- It wasn't really anything other than usual. We just	198.6527
177	DCA_int_01	198.6440	Mm-hm.	199.0440
178	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	199.4847	hid, you know. (laughing)	200.1200
179	DCA_int_01	200.8531	Yeah.	201.2441
181		202.3340	When some of the adults that are going to listen to this you know, will forget how you play, so.	206.7652
182	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	206.8336	<laugh>	207.2099
183	DCA_int_01	207.5081	That's why I'm trying to- Even though you say it's the usual some people might not know what the usual is (laughing).	211.7975
185		212.3559	So, how- how would you start out?	213.9430
187		214.6273	Say you're going to just start a game of Hide and Seek. What all would you [/do/?]	217.3429
188	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	217.2501	[Oh,] okay.	217.8610
189		219.2686	Let's-	219.7182
191		220.7299	S- sometimes someone would	222.2939
193		222.4992	maybe someone did something wrong, and we have something on her.	225.0829
195		225.9333	And nobody wanted to uh, be the person looking out there, you know, for the other people.	229.5000
197		230.1151	So we threaten him with uh-	231.4690
199		231.9186	Say	232.3438
201		232.8375	he	233.1649
203		233.4386	threw the trash he was supposed to take out. He threw it in, you know, d-	236.3497
205		236.8140	Instead of putting it in a trash can, he just kind of threw it in the trash can and everything, got all over the place.	240.3477
207		240.7662	We'd threaten to tell his mother or something like that, so he'd agree to be the um,	243.5960
209		243.8746	you know, the proxy for the thing.	245.0769
210	DCA_int_01	245.4302	Mm-hm.	245.8281
211	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	245.8281	And then	246.5334
212		247.2403	he'd-	247.7095
214		248.3497	he'd go,	249.2099
216		249.4348	and he'd find a spot d-	250.6621
218		250.7866	Most of the time, we'd just	251.7813
220		251.9299	go /to/ a tree, and put his head on the tree and cover his eyes.	254.3114
222		255.3223	And he'd start counting to twenty,	256.7593
224		257.4386	and at the end of twenty, he say, re-	258.9804
226		259.0678	ready or not, here I come.	260.1689
228		260.6381	And he'd	260.9753
230		261.2295	come after us.	262.1532
232		263.5901	I don't h- itn- we'd- most- most of the time we stay- stay /open/. If you found a good spot, you know, you just stay there because everybody else is in uh, church.	270.2223
233	DCA_int_01	270.2890	Mm-hm.	270.7729
234	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	270.8004	So, if you're	271.6557
236		272.7310	uh, inventive, you'll find some place you know, decent to hide, and he-	276.2792
238		276.8591	he'll look all around. He'll yell for	278.3791
240		278.7163	the most part, and he'll find somebody	280.7544
242		281.2333	and play around with them.	282.3086
244		282.9666	And, you know, he'll say, I know you're there,	284.6039
246		284.9411	so come on out.	285.7280
248		286.6957	And most- most of the time, we just stay there, and he'll come in after you.	289.5286
250		289.6606	Then if you run back, and if you make it to the tree before he tags you,	292.4758
252		293.0525	you don't have to be it. But if he tags you before you	295.2452
254		295.6850	come out, you're it.	296.4622
255	DCA_int_01	297.1904	Hm. Good.	297.8795
257		298.5198	Is there any other way of picking the first guy to be it? Besides uh, having something on him?	302.6576
258	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	302.8825	Uh, there was a poem we used to do.	304.4465
260		304.8326	I forgot exactly wh-	305.9958
262		306.3623	uh,	306.7582
264		308.7896	oh boy. I forgot the poem.	310.0750
266		312.6245	It was- oh it was- it was a long- it wasn't- there- there were a couple of them. Uh	315.9088
268		317.3164	engine, engine, number nine,	318.5432
270		318.6733	/screaming/ on Chicago Line.	319.8708
272		320.3400	If the train should jump the track, do you want your money back?	322.5051
274		322.8374	And you go all the way around.	323.7758
276		324.0202	I just remembered it.	324.7973
278		325.7339	And,	326.2911
280		326.6283	we go around. The last person /in/	328.5002
282		329.4239	would um,	330.0593
284		331.8219	be the	332.3791
286		332.5941	person who had to go through the whole thing.	334.8032
287	DCA_int_01	336.0869	Great.	336.5267
289		337.1621	Do you remember any of the others? Was there any about- one about potatoes or	340.1120
291		340.8727	/that you do/?	341.6781
292	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	342.3110	Mm,	342.8560
294		344.2911	there may have been. Th- there were a lot of 'em. I can't remember 'em all now for some reason. I don't know.	348.2384
296		348.6636	Tired or [something.]	349.5091
297	DCA_int_01	349.3185	[You can't] remember more?	350.3693
298		350.5012	<laugh>	351.5130
300		352.2705	Well you're doing well.	353.1770
302		355.2647	Did you ever play any games with bottle caps?	357.2784
303	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	359.1258	Collected 'em	359.7367
305		360.0055	a lot times (laughing).	360.9324
307		361.2745	I had	361.6655
309		362.7261	a lot of	363.1611
311		363.3908	bottle caps and baseball cards.	365.1209
313		365.3800	I-	365.6341
315		365.7710	we didn't really play many games with them though.	367.8219
317		368.7358	Uh,	369.1757
319		369.7475	we weren't /in/	370.2803
321		370.4807	genius I guess <laugh>. We didn't- we	372.6800
322	DCA_int_01	371.4826	<laugh>	372.1522
323	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	372.9097	uh- When they started uh,	374.4670
325		374.8434	on the Coke bottle caps, we had, uh, football players.	377.8116
327		378.5316	/I saw/-	379.1083
329		379.4798	I don't know. I still have-	380.3888
331		380.6479	I have the majority of mine now, but I don't use 'em anymore. They just sitting in cedar chest.	384.2695
333		384.8151	I don't- I had	385.3918
335		386.6039	well over	387.1415
337		387.3566	three hundred of 'em. [I had just] about every one you could have.	389.7221
338	DCA_int_01	388.2558	[Mm.]	388.6420
339	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	390.0544	My baseball cards were about the same. /Only I/	392.1738
341		392.5403	died out of them	393.3126
343		393.4787	a lot sooner because	394.4513
345		394.8961	I don't know. I don't like baseball as much as I used to.	396.9830
347		397.1376	So I just	397.9539
349		398.1787	/kind of- I don't- discarded 'em/.	399.3468
351		399.9088	That's about it.	400.5149
352	DCA_int_01	401.2920	Do you ever go watch the Senators anymore?	403.2030
354		404.0565	Or [did you?]	404.6234
355	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	404.2862	[I did,] not too long ago. <laugh> Uh, wh- when I went to watch when they	407.6194
356		408.0740	playing the Red Sox, and they won.	409.8561
358		410.2129	So, it was okay.	411.1953
359	DCA_int_01	411.8795	/Good./	412.2070
361		413.4337	My wife's a Senator's fan, and I'm a White Sox fan.	415.9196
363		416.2666	We're rooting for the last two /teams/ (laughing).	418.4953
364	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	418.3829	I don't know. I- I'd-	419.2920
365		420.0935	I	420.7436
367		421.4113	like the Senators. I just	422.6528
369		423.6302	sympathetic toward 'em. <laugh> [And that's- that's] about it because I-	426.7289
370	DCA_int_01	425.0965	[Yeah.]	425.4826
371	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	427.1865	and I have to be realistic	428.1738
372	DCA_int_01	428.4377	[Yeah.]	428.9167
373	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	428.4719	[to how seriously] how much /they are to do/ you know. Well y-	431.2773
374		431.5315	you may go to see Howard or something. Now that he's on his /spree/,	434.2813
375	DCA_int_01	434.6479	[Yeah.]	435.0780
376	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	434.8238	[which] he just dropped. [And]	436.4074
377	DCA_int_01	435.8306	[Mm-hm.]	436.3389
378	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	437.2480	I don't know. It's not that much to be excited about the Senators,	439.4602
380		439.8708	and baseball in itself isn't really a	441.7378
382		442.2949	exciting game, as far as I'm concerned. It's fun to play, but watching it, sitting there for	446.6234
384		447.0926	a couple hours, it doesn't do very much [for you. You just] sit there and nothing happens.	450.6849
385	DCA_int_01	448.8326	[<laugh>]	449.3066
386	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	450.9146	In football you know, everything's moving all the time.	452.9656
388		453.4005	You have something to do.	454.2705
389	DCA_int_01	455.4826	Do you like to watch football?	456.5627
390	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	457.9196	Yeah, a lot more so.	459.0193
392		459.8844	Watching football is ev-	461.1014
394		461.8785	could be considered more for the- more fun then playing it.	464.6185
396		465.3517	But um,	465.9430
398		467.5070	I don't-	467.9811
400		468.2988	I enjoy playing it more because, I don't know,	470.2178
402		470.5355	there's something about me. I just like the game.	472.4367
403	DCA_int_01	472.6077	Mm-hm.	472.9596
404	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	473.0085	But football, I like the action involved /in it's/-	475.0270
406		475.3820	It's always going, you know. You don't-	476.8874
408		477.3712	you don't get a chance to sit there and contemplate too long what's going to happen. Y-	480.4916
410		480.6465	/always- uh- sometime-/	481.7212
412		481.9631	Even-	482.2382
414		482.7272	even if your team is uh, on defense, it can be fun /cause/ something	486.2098
416		486.4019	spectacular may happen, interception or something.	488.5414
418		488.8819	In baseball,	489.6635
420		490.1918	I doubt seriously if anything spectacular's gonna happen when the Senators are out in the field, you know?	494.0368
421	DCA_int_01	491.8406	<laugh>	492.4431
422		494.0368	[Mm-hm.]	494.4822
423	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	494.2595	[Maybe] a stop here or something, by the short stop /cause you can't tell./	497.3972
424	DCA_int_01	497.8294	Yeah. Do you play football?	499.4100
426		499.5497	In school or	500.5103
428		501.0211	just informally?	502.1897
429	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	502.3600	Well,	502.8140
431		503.0716	I play at school. This year I didn't do very much.	505.2897
433		505.8005	Though in JV this year, I need the experience really.	508.1610
435		508.9557	It helped a lot.	509.7940
437		510.5799	Um,	510.9903
439		511.8532	that's about it. My football career's	513.7569
441		514.3289	kind of in the dumps now. N- next year-	516.6124
442	DCA_int_01	515.4030	<laugh>	515.8440
443	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	517.2177	next year during summer camp hope to bring it up a lot because I haven't	519.9641
445		520.3701	really accomplished what I should have been accomplishing in it.	522.7279
447		523.4554	In track-	524.1365
449		524.6998	So far in track,	525.7913
451		526.1232	I've done my best,	527.2016
453		527.6470	and because in basketball- I was on the Varsity basketball team- I didn't do	530.7192
455		531.2955	that much in it, you know. I-	532.4962
457		532.6621	I was a	533.0813
459		533.7652	second team. I-	534.7257
461		535.2235	/I sink/-	535.6427
463		535.9352	I guess I was about the eighth man on the team,	537.5769
465		538.0310	which wasn't	538.4545
467		538.9681	too bad,	539.4833
469		540.1382	but it wasn't that good either.	541.2647
471		541.8323	And uh,	542.4392
473		542.9850	I don't know, I need	543.7797
475		544.2365	lot more experience than I got-	545.6119
477		545.9830	n-	546.2188
479		546.5331	than I got. I should have been on JV.	548.2752
481		548.9433	But,	549.2751
483		549.9066	I've learned now. So next year,	551.5090
485		551.8234	I should come up, you know,	552.7883
486	DCA_int_01	552.7683	Mm-hm.	553.1311
487	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	553.1463	a superstar and all that.	554.1811
489		554.2728	<laugh>	554.8884
490	DCA_int_01	554.9785	Does your school field pretty good athletic teams?	557.1966
492		558.4235	Does it [/inaudible/?]	559.7726
493	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	558.6854	[In most c- yeah I-] I would consider our school fair	561.2905
494		561.8799	in	562.2729
496		562.5654	athletics.	563.3600
498		563.6788	In basketball, our school doesn't	565.2244
500		566.4977	well, our league /period/- Our- our school was okay for our league, I th-	569.4406
502		569.6327	We got third in our league this year,	571.1084
504		571.4911	/uh/ second in a tournament,	572.7442
505	DCA_int_01	571.5153	/Oh/.	571.7553
506	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	573.2550	but	573.4957
508		574.5169	um,	574.8530
510		575.4250	overall in the city, our school is-	577.0738
512		577.8030	our league is ranked rather low.	579.4271
513	DCA_int_01	579.6586	Oh yeah?	580.1477
515		581.4357	Do you ever play- Is there a,	582.7308
517		583.5954	like the top team of your league playing another league or anything /right now/?	587.5346
518	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	587.7853	Oh no, we,	588.6542
520		589.4794	in off league games a lot	590.9945
522		591.3219	we uh,	591.9812
524		592.9096	play a few Catholic schools. Like, we play Gonzaga this year.	595.7520
525	DCA_int_01	595.9660	Oh.	596.4026
526	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	596.7519	We didn't do as well as we should have, but	598.2911
528		598.9509	you kn- It helps a lot to play a school	601.2125
530		601.6666	considered a lot better than you are,	603.4028
532		603.5993	and if you beat 'em, you know, [you're in]	604.9353
533	DCA_int_01	604.6035	[That's a] good [/inaudible/]	605.6252
534	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	605.1929	[good shape.]	605.7605
535	DCA_int_01	608.1488	What are your favorite TV programs?	610.1732
536	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	611.8280	Oh, I don't have as many	612.9239
538		613.1378	anymore. I don't watch TV as much	615.2276
540		615.5944	/except/	615.9961
542		616.7296	NFL Action,	617.9259
544		618.1835	uh,	618.5197
546		620.4742	Wide World of Sports.	621.6749
548		623.1070	Let's see,	623.6266
550		625.0309	and Frank McGee reporter's pretty good sometimes.	627.3188
551	DCA_int_01	627.4757	Mm-hm.	627.9216
552	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	628.2051	I don't watch the news as much anymore because I'm not home	630.4609
554		630.7621	in time to see it in most cases.	632.3864
556		634.6175	[Uh-]	635.2446
557	DCA_int_01	634.6786	[Are there any] adventure stories or comedies or anything like that that you ever watch?	638.5673
558	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	639.6894	Well now I just-	640.6151
560		640.9628	If something's on the TV I'll watch it in most cases,	643.6347
562		644.3902	but now I-	644.8675
564		645.0424	I stay out a lot more.	646.0799
566		646.4189	And-	646.7333
568		647.6545	and I have a lot more homework to be doing.	649.3923
570		649.9948	Therefore, TV suffers.	651.4444
571	DCA_int_01	651.7877	<laugh>	652.5169
573		652.9710	That's the right way around I guess. <laugh>	654.8135
574	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	654.8179	I don't know. It- I'm debating it-	656.6037
576		656.7345	[but it's-] it's there.	657.7853
577	DCA_int_01	656.8438	[<laugh>]	657.4098
578		658.1215	Mm.	658.4228
580		659.9029	Are there any um,	660.7718
582		661.5708	story programs that you've watched recently that you can tell me about?	665.5774
584		666.3327	We're interested in finding out what kind of stories people remember.	669.4486
585	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	671.3130	Oh boy.	672.1460
587		675.2802	Mission Impossible. I just remember the one show I watch all the time.	678.4965
589		679.0074	Uh,	679.2955
591		679.4833	I think that's-	680.1601
593		681.0988	it's funny when it really makes you think, and the whole-	683.2557
595		683.4958	on the whole TV, I don't-	684.5814
597		685.2058	uh- Let's see. Last w-	686.1314
599		686.5811	yesterday-	687.2535
601		689.6490	yesterday	690.2864
603		690.8017	they were trying to	692.0155
605		692.5219	stop slavery in uh,	694.0807
607		694.7165	this country in the m-	695.7470
609		695.9827	Middle East,	696.7206
611		697.2664	and they had a corrupt ruler,	698.5544
613		699.3152	which is normally the case, but	700.6530
615		701.0066	they had a	701.4005
617		701.5448	corrupt ruler.	702.2597
619		702.7793	And someone supplying with slaves- That's the only	704.9275
621		705.3887	nation in the world that	706.4628
623		706.7422	still has, uh, legal slavery.	708.4058
625		709.4100	And they went through this	710.4491
627		710.8973	whole	711.2946
629		711.7094	big deal, you know. I-	712.8708
631		713.5694	I didn't see the end of it, but	715.1587
633		715.6258	I- I went to sleep for s- (laughing)	717.6240
635		718.0912	But uh,	718.7068
637		719.0037	there was this	719.4752
639		719.9337	big deal of um, all these scientific things. Th- they had-	723.0714
641		723.7918	they got one of their f- uh,	725.0886
643		725.5907	employees	726.3591
645		726.5977	set up as a slave,	727.8508
647		728.0385	and he was captured.	728.9816
649		729.4663	And he got in and took photographs of the thing,	731.4922
651		732.8441	and	733.2545
653		734.4029	/uh just/- They duplicated it,	736.0969
655		736.7213	and they used the photographs later on to uh,	738.8111
657		740.1865	um,	740.7366
659		741.7103	incriminate the uh,	742.8794
661		743.6866	person who was supplying this corrupt ruler with the slaves.	746.4853
663		748.0119	That's- And,	748.8982
665		750.6840	uh,	751.0491
667		751.5572	most of the stuff they do there is s- so weird. They-	753.9134
669		754.4242	they have ways of uh,	756.0877
671		756.6117	putting things together out of nothing,	758.2343
673		758.5269	that	758.7059
674	DCA_int_01	758.9984	Hm.	759.3302
675	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	759.5180	kind of shocks you. Like	760.6357
677		760.9239	the person who was set up as a slave,	762.7009
679		763.4519	he went in with	764.3198
681		764.8432	this robe on,	765.8430
683		766.4586	and he,	766.8909
685		767.1834	you know, he looked like a slave.	768.3623
687		768.9458	From that he came out, u-	770.3910
689		770.8669	They had it planned so he could break out. He had a	772.8361
691		773.2465	key in his mouth when he walked in.	774.8794
693		775.3625	He had a uniform on,	776.6462
695		777.1963	not on, but uh,	778.2835
697		778.5979	inside of his belt on his	780.0387
699		780.2336	tunic or whatever.	781.0588
701		781.5784	And he had	782.0980
703		782.4560	a camera	783.2244
705		783.5432	that he could switch and make into a gun- make it look like a gun rather.	786.6590
707		787.1742	And the camera-	787.8772
709		788.0475	First he had the camera, took the photographs with it, and	790.2917
711		791.4865	then he	791.8619
713		792.5256	uh,	792.9579
715		794.3550	kind of, I don't know, he	795.3855
717		795.7610	put everything together. /Then he/ ended up as a	797.6456
719		797.8639	guard, and he looked like one of the guards that thought they were guarding him.	800.5185
721		801.1937	And he	801.5517
723		801.8312	broke out of his um-	803.1628
725		803.5776	He didn't really break out. He had	804.9486
727		805.3241	a way of opening up the uh,	807.0095
729		807.8244	door, so he could get out. And he	809.5141
731		809.8939	walked out	810.5358
733		811.3217	and pretended-	812.4160
735		813.3023	I don't know. He just kind of blended in with the rest of the people, and he	815.8129
737		817.3831	he talked his way out of the uh, jail	819.2693
739		819.5575	and down to his friends where he met 'em and took the information that he had, and it	822.6750
741		823.1187	went on like that. I [couldn't r- <laugh>]	824.7080
742	DCA_int_01	824.2964	[Mm-hm.]	824.6767
743		824.8428	Mm-hm. [/Sounds/] intense.	826.4862
744	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	825.0573	[Forgot the rest.]	825.9349
745	DCA_int_01	827.9914	How about /movies/- <clears throat> movies. Is there a movie that you recall?	831.0942
746	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	831.6530	Uh,	832.3691
748		834.6991	I don't know. M- movies don't	835.8867
750		836.2010	leave	836.6726
752		838.0960	that much for lasting impression on me too much.	840.2513
754		840.5787	There was, uh-	841.4520
756		841.7751	Let me see.	842.3121
758		843.5347	Sure there's one.	844.4297
760		845.3974	A couple of 'em when I come out of- and I'm real psyched about 'em, but I,	848.5062
761	DCA_int_01	848.4188	<laugh>	849.0476
762	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	849.2528	forget it after I get out.	850.6309
764		850.9409	/Because- I don't-/	851.8098
766		852.2027	I just k- finished cramming for an algebra [assignment,]	854.4601
767	DCA_int_01	854.0016	[<laugh>]	854.7788
768	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	854.8094	so that's still on my [mind. That doesn't] help too much.	857.4537
769	DCA_int_01	855.7509	[<laugh>]	856.5018
770	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	859.2656	Oh boy.	860.1607
772		864.5690	I don't know. I haven't been to many movies lately.	866.5889
773	DCA_int_01	866.7120	Mm-hm.	867.0879
774	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	867.2613	I used to go often.	868.3922
776		868.7764	This year,	869.4270
778		869.9684	I've been to a lot of movies, I just can't remember exactly which ones I went to. There-	873.5034
780		873.6824	they were enjoyable for the first couple of weeks.	875.8262
782		876.3327	The adventure ones don't stick with me at all.	878.1911
783	DCA_int_01	878.4618	[<laugh>]	878.9814
784	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	878.7543	[The James] Bond ones, you know. They're	880.3742
785	DCA_int_01	880.4004	Yeah.	880.7017
786	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	880.7497	nice to go look at and all, but they don't really stay.	883.1333
787	DCA_int_01	883.4568	Yeah.	883.7060
789		885.4592	How about a pet? Do you have a pet?	887.1140
790	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	888.4921	No we had a dog, but he um,	890.3172
792		891.2123	died	891.5790
794		892.3948	a coup-	892.8218
796		893.2846	about a year ago.	894.1753
798		894.6644	He was	895.0791
800		895.3629	pushing up there in age, so	896.7645
801	DCA_int_01	896.7165	Hm.	896.9959
802	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	897.3714	I don't know. He was- I was pretty close to him for a little while.	899.8280
804		900.1380	It was more so my- My brother's	901.6181
806		901.7840	a little closer to him than I was though,	903.6555
808		903.8302	so it affect him a lot more. And he was younger when he died.	906.2709
809	DCA_int_01	906.4860	Mm.	906.7876
810	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	907.0393	So, he,	907.5022
812		907.9213	you know.	908.3361
814		908.9021	It was almost like taking someone from him, and-	911.0765
815	DCA_int_01	912.2204	What was the dog like? What- what kind was it?	914.7730
816	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	915.4629	Well	915.8253
818		916.1266	the dog was,	917.0120
820		917.7028	<laugh>	918.2092
822		918.4494	he was a little bit of everything really. He was a, uh-	921.1592
824		921.3469	he was a hound,	922.2027
825	DCA_int_01	922.5302	Mm-hm.	922.9930
826	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	923.4908	but um,	924.2417
828		924.6768	well-	925.0086
830		925.3142	The first one we had ran away.	926.7900
832		926.9865	He was a German Shepard.	927.9951
834		928.1610	He was-	928.4710
836		928.5889	He d- he ran away as a little puppy.	930.0123
838		930.2333	The one that I'm talking about	931.4821
840		931.9449	was a hound dog,	932.8007
842		933.4600	and he had a broken tail.	934.7131
843	DCA_int_01	935.1917	Hm.	935.3795
844	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	936.6632	And he um,	937.4367
846		939.8505	well, he was-	940.5578
848		941.1325	he was	941.5168
850		941.6652	homely kind of. [<laugh> He-]	943.4161
851	DCA_int_01	942.6476	[<laugh>]	943.3375
852	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	943.5733	he looked-	944.0885
854		944.8351	He- he was r- he's real nice, you know-	946.5631
856		946.9904	s- The thing is he wouldn't bite anybody	948.5317
858		948.6801	b-	948.9377
860		949.2608	partly because he didn't have the-	950.3917
862		950.8747	felt like he didn't have the time. He always walked around, you know, kind of lazy most of the time.	954.2996
864		955.3239	And he	955.6994
866		956.0312	loved water, for one thing, you know. Like /f- if you're/	958.0424
868		958.2607	/watering the lawn/	958.9811
870		959.5051	he'd hop in it.	960.1741
871	DCA_int_01	960.1906	[<laugh>]	960.5268
872	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	960.3315	[That] could have-	960.8804
873		961.3286	That could have been the reason he died, so I think	963.3108
875		963.8610	he got a little too wet one day,	965.1446
877		965.3542	and it was a little too much for him.	966.5200
879		967.2928	But uh,	967.8298
881		969.7494	I don't know. He was-	970.4043
883		971.7928	If you looked at him, you-	973.0066
885		973.2582	I mean s- some dogs- You may have met dogs like this, but	975.5897
887		975.9696	kind of look at 'em, and you see a person in 'em somehow. The-	978.7237
889		979.6880	almost as if they're talking to you.	981.0841
890	DCA_int_01	981.9016	Mm-hm, yeah.	982.7016
892		984.2491	Very interesting.	985.0830
894		986.5414	Tell me about your school.	987.8075
896		988.2660	What do you study?	989.2091
898		989.8319	Stuff like that.	990.6833
899	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	990.6920	Oh, I could tell you /unintelligible/. [<laugh>]	992.9319
900	DCA_int_01	991.7530	[<laugh>]	992.7922
901	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	993.4645	Uh,	994.0933
903		994.6986	well,	995.2138
905		995.4496	at the beginning of the year,	996.3010
907		996.8075	I started off with five majors.	998.4404
909		999.7443	And as the year progressed,	1001.1415
911		1001.7178	because one of my majors was a	1002.9753
913		1003.4076	tenth grade subject,	1004.4031
915		1004.7261	Biology,	1005.2850
917		1005.9951	they suggested that I drop it and take it-	1007.8205
919		1008.3005	and continue it next year.	1009.5405
921		1010.0413	So, I continued with History,	1011.6739
923		1012.1673	English, Algebra Two,	1013.5951
925		1015.1014	and World H- and- Let me see.	1016.7546
927		1017.1574	History, English, Algebra Two.	1018.7893
929		1019.6145	French. <ha!> Can't forget that [one.]	1021.7160
930	DCA_int_01	1021.5558	[<laugh>]	1022.2763
931	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1022.9268	Uh-	1023.3241
933		1023.9616	/I came one on pretty good..../	1025.3064
935		1026.5857	in	1026.9646
937		1028.1996	English,	1028.7541
939		1028.9811	comparatively, I- you know, I guess I get around a C plus.	1031.5616
941		1032.0926	It should have been better,	1033.2060
943		1033.4418	but I started off real bad. Uh,	1035.2625
945		1036.1008	didn't really- I didn't work enough-	1037.5750
947		1038.7451	I didn't	1039.2865
949		1040.0463	get what the teacher had to offer.	1041.7185
951		1042.7604	And m-	1043.2931
953		1043.5813	Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, my teacher, really	1045.1269
955		1045.8604	got on me about that a lot of times about not	1047.9808
957		1048.1817	putting out what I should be putting out.	1049.9107
959		1050.5176	Next year, I think I know a little better.	1052.1200
960	DCA_int_01	1052.3651	Mm.	1052.6187
961	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1053.0456	And Algebra,	1053.9129
963		1054.4543	it wasn't-	1055.0656
965		1055.4891	it's no real sweat	1056.3885
967		1056.6025	to uh,	1057.0566
969		1057.4233	doing algebra. You just do it. It's nothing to	1059.3166
971		1059.9759	concentrate on. If you know it, you know it. If you don't, you don't.	1062.9100
973		1063.0017	So that's not really much to talk about .	1064.8077
975		1066.1351	In History,	1067.1786
977		1068.3241	we had the weirdest teach-	1069.7415
979		1070.1716	uh-	1070.4697
981		1071.0415	Our teacher	1071.7013
983		1071.8235	lectured us	1072.5615
985		1073.4999	everyday	1074.1597
987		1074.8666	and	1075.1745
989		1075.6486	everyday- except for Friday's when we had tests-	1077.9066
991		1078.8157	and uh, most of the time	1080.0327
993		1080.6418	I didn't	1081.0524
995		1081.4238	bother to listen to him because	1082.9194
997		1083.2468	he was lecturing	1083.9408
999		1084.1323	straight from the book.	1084.9721
1001		1085.8981	So he's-	1086.3325
1003		1086.5136	in most cases I'd-	1087.5532
1005		1088.2515	Sometimes I'd come with my book,	1089.7463
1007		1090.6289	and look as if I was listening,	1092.1134
1009		1092.7651	and other times I just	1093.6961
1011		1094.5599	come and	1095.0823
1013		1095.5323	kind of stare.	1096.3547
1015		1096.8442	Think about something, see if I had a game that day,	1098.8666
1017		1099.5441	I go into a trance, [you know.]	1101.2924
1018	DCA_int_01	1100.7752	[<laugh>]	1101.3079
1019	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1101.7165	Dream up what I might be doing at-	1103.2560
1021		1103.4319	in a f-	1103.7319
1023		1103.9129	hour from there or something.	1105.1284
1025		1105.6094	Then after that, I have French.	1106.9180
1027		1107.9732	And that was my worst [subject.]	1109.4299
1028	DCA_int_01	1108.9696	[<laugh>]	1109.4816
1029	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1109.7661	/??/	1110.1851
1031		1110.5316	I don't know. I must have a complex against it. I just can't seem to	1113.1695
1033		1115.2625	do it somehow.	1116.0176
1035		1116.4624	I'm coming along with it.	1117.6700
1037		1117.9323	And-	1118.0969
1039		1118.4331	I think I found out my trouble.	1119.9279
1041		1120.3262	I started off-	1121.1952
1043		1121.5262	my teacher didn't really start me off in a way	1123.9088
1045		1124.5346	I should have been started.	1125.6260
1047		1125.9156	In- when I start- I started in the	1127.3536
1049		1127.5501	fifth grade,	1128.3829
1050	DCA_int_01	1128.7689	Hm.	1129.0327
1051	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1129.1879	and	1129.5499
1053		1130.6103	I don't know. My teacher-	1131.5827
1055		1132.0327	I didn't really like my teacher that much. It may not- It	1134.2050
1057		1134.5050	probably wasn't her fault as much as it was mine, but	1136.7221
1059		1137.2600	I had a dislike for the language to begin with.	1139.3031
1061		1140.0841	And the other teachers I met didn't	1141.5305
1063		1141.7529	help it too much until	1143.0460
1065		1143.3150	a teacher I just had.	1144.3452
1067		1144.8874	She was a	1145.3529
1069		1145.7408	real good teacher. She expressed herself	1147.5253
1071		1148.1906	perfectly, and she	1149.1630
1073		1149.3234	knew how to relate it you, so you f- you listened to her most cases.	1152.7630
1075		1153.8680	And you know, a type of person you learn from easily.	1155.9731
1077		1157.2527	Let's see and what else.	1158.1052
1078	DCA_int_01	1158.2233	<laugh>	1158.4550
1079	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1158.5249	That's [about it.]	1159.1076
1080	DCA_int_01	1158.8703	[/Sounds] good/.	1159.6397
1081		1160.1609	In elementary school, what did kids do after school was out?	1163.0486
1083		1163.3502	Usually?	1163.9419
1084	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1165.9384	Oh,	1166.4660
1086		1167.7985	elementary school, did a little bit of everything most of the time.	1170.2399
1088		1170.9433	I would go over someone's house because it was no such thing as homework, so you go over and play.	1175.1724
1089	DCA_int_01	1176.9776	What would you play?	1177.7693
1090	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1178.9929	Well, we'd play kickball a lot.	1180.7205
1092		1181.1498	And baseball.	1181.9360
1094		1182.1533	I think those /two big games/ (tape distortion).	1183.4774
1096		1183.7205	Like we have	1184.3476
1098		1184.5225	uh	1184.8015
1100		1185.1151	of the John Burroughs Elementary,	1186.5324
1102		1187.3496	and there's a fence-	1188.4565
1104		1189.4237	uh, enclosed area. I guess it's around a	1191.5961
1106		1192.4063	hundred feet long. It's- it's something like that. And we play kickball /over/ in the area,	1196.2545
1108		1196.7252	and we see who can get the most uh-	1198.3526
1110		1198.6009	In the course of a year-	1199.9077
1112		1200.3646	of a school year in most cases, you see who could get the most balls over the fence, you know.	1204.0215
1113	DCA_int_01	1203.9956	Mm-hm.	1204.4198
1114	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1204.4249	Some people end up f- around five hundred,	1206.2230
1116		1206.3679	you know, home runs, and all that stuff.	1207.9375
1118		1208.8144	I- I think I end up with around four hundred or something like that. And a person	1212.0659
1120		1212.4590	who won had close to a thousand.	1214.1659
1122		1214.7090	So, you know.	1215.2780
1124		1216.0124	And when they win,	1217.0159
1126		1218.0847	/??/ prize has this big	1219.4915
1128		1219.7864	six scoop ice cream cone. When they get that, you know, everybody pitches in a penny, and they buy him one.	1224.3103
1129	DCA_int_01	1224.4344	/Hm/.	1224.7810
1131		1226.0896	You think kids do about the same thing nowadays?	1228.4740
1133		1228.6189	Roughly? [/inaudible/]	1229.8499
1134	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1229.2890	[Uh] probably so.	1230.3808
1135		1230.6083	<laugh>	1230.9187
1137		1231.2290	I can't really see any reason to change it. It wasn't really-	1233.3859
1139		1234.8186	It didn't seem to be anything, you know, set- planned- It just kind of happened.	1237.9667
1141		1238.5680	So I don't think it changed that much.	1240.1650
1142	DCA_int_01	1240.6046	What does a guy your age do?	1242.1357
1144		1242.8941	In his free time.	1243.8458
1145	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1244.9010	Well,	1245.4648
1147		1245.9199	my social life is missing a lot, unfortunately.	1248.3727
1149		1248.7647	Last year, I went to a	1249.7973
1151		1250.4439	public school. This year I'm going to a private school.	1252.4921
1153		1252.9731	Made a big difference. My social life was cut down completely.	1255.7185
1154	DCA_int_01	1255.7385	Mm.	1256.0747
1155	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1256.3592	Probably because of the work I have.	1257.9367
1157		1258.6712	Probably because the people. I think mainly	1260.6264
1159		1260.8591	because the people are so	1261.8315
1161		1262.2900	widely spread.	1263.1796
1163		1263.6348	Every uh-	1264.3350
1165		1265.0003	In public schools, you know, everyone's in a area. You-	1267.7416
1167		1267.9227	they live in, and they're required to go their school.	1270.1242
1169		1270.7139	Or either they	1271.2673
1171		1271.7690	have friends who live in the school with- who live near them,	1274.5602
1173		1275.2740	or go to the same school. So you	1276.9705
1175		1277.5705	associate with the people almost-	1279.1636
1177		1280.4412	at least	1280.9617
1179		1281.4272	fifteen hours of the day almost. You see 'em going home with 'em, you come to school with 'em, you stay at school with 'em, you study with 'em.	1287.1097
1181		1288.0615	In some cases, the people go home and eat with 'em, and go to parties with 'em on Saturday and the weekend.	1292.4114
1182	DCA_int_01	1292.6758	Mm-hm.	1293.0168
1183	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1292.9600	But in the-	1293.3993
1184		1293.7595	in the private school	1294.8405
1186		1295.4250	you-	1295.7457
1188		1296.3767	everyone lives in	1297.3595
1190		1297.8612	all facets of the city and [everything], and if you're	1300.5955
1191	DCA_int_01	1299.2848	[Mm-hm.]	1299.6257
1192	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1300.9782	not blessed to be old enough to drive,	1302.7886
1194		1302.9386	or you don't have a car,	1303.9782
1196		1304.3196	you're	1304.7023
1198		1304.8834	left out of a lot of things.	1306.3691
1199	DCA_int_01	1306.4229	Mm. Yeah.	1307.2566
1200	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1308.5952	And my sports	1309.5108
1202		1309.7952	help me a lot on that because I got to know a lot of people that I wouldn't have known	1313.1502
1204		1313.6157	had I just been a Freshman just sitting down. You know, [just coming to the] school to learn, like a lot of my friends are.	1318.6226
1205	DCA_int_01	1316.1709	[Mm-hm.]	1316.7864
1206	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1319.1431	And they don't know as many people as I do because	1321.4655
1208		1321.8793	they don't know the people that have the cars, who can come out, pick them up when they're going to a party or something	1325.9739
1209	DCA_int_01	1326.1239	Mm.	1326.4601
1211		1328.7256	Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot?	1330.6497
1212	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1332.4271	I didn't	1332.9237
1214		1333.3064	have- Oh, yes I did.	1334.8064
1216		1335.3185	Uh,	1335.6288
1218		1336.0322	the teacher gave my best grade hollered a lot.	1338.0546
1220		1338.2286	But most of my teachers have been	1339.5786
1222		1340.0234	kind of quiet. I've had teachers who've	1341.6062
1224		1341.7613	bothered me, who hollered a lot. But they weren't my teachers.	1344.4387
1226		1344.7749	But in the third grade,	1345.6853
1228		1345.9335	I had a lady named Mrs. /RD-NAME-3/.	1347.5680
1230		1348.6025	And	1348.9697
1232		1349.7902	I ended up- In my second report card I got straight A's from her. She was-	1352.8471
1233	DCA_int_01	1352.8523	Hm.	1353.1057
1234	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1353.5299	she was six feet tall. The only lady I've ev- [I've ever] seen that big.	1356.8919
1235	DCA_int_01	1355.5686	[<laugh>]	1356.0178
1236	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1357.4228	And she was-	1358.3745
1238		1358.7158	I'd say she was around one ninety.	1360.1227
1240		1360.8986	Sh- and she-	1361.5917
1242		1362.2124	I don't know. She scared me. The [first time I] walked in, I looked up at her	1365.0139
1243	DCA_int_01	1363.4617	[Mm.]	1363.7415
1244	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1365.4329	and said, /you're not/-	1366.1880
1246		1366.6070	This lady must been business.	1367.9414
1247	DCA_int_01	1368.0139	<laugh>	1368.3294
1248	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1368.3449	I hadn't been used to anybody you know, quite that big and dominating	1371.3844
1250		1371.7464	in the third grade	1372.6464
1252		1373.3085	because	1373.6861
1254		1374.0792	my teachers have been little for one thing. And they've been	1376.5807
1256		1376.7928	quiet and you know, meek, and at /worst dishonest/ so-	1379.6841
1258		1380.7082	so motherly and everything.	1381.9755
1260		1382.8839	And she c- and she started us off as a whirl, you know. She-	1385.5891
1262		1386.1477	everybody you need such and such	1387.6528
1264		1387.8752	for the class tomorrow.	1389.0637
1266		1389.4716	If you don't have it, you have to deal with me.	1391.1009
1268		1391.5612	And nobody really wanted to deal with her, [so they] had it.	1393.7802
1269	DCA_int_01	1392.9611	[<laugh>]	1393.2890
1270	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1394.4248	[And]	1394.8076
1271	DCA_int_01	1394.4248	[Hm.]	1394.8076
1272	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1395.0197	it helped me a lot. I got-	1396.0386
1274		1396.3748	I was well disciplined in that class, whereas after I left,	1399.0593
1276		1399.7834	I started up with my old habits again.	1401.4263
1277	DCA_int_01	1401.6953	Hm.	1401.9901
1278	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1401.9746	But	1402.2125
1279		1402.8798	in that class, I worked <laugh> to the best of my abilities is because she was over there staring at me every second.	1407.5744
1280	DCA_int_01	1408.5002	What did she holler about?	1409.5354
1281	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1410.7682	She hollered about almost anything.	1412.5657
1283		1412.9640	If-	1413.3157
1285		1414.6483	The main thing, if two boys- Say	1416.7224
1287		1417.0276	you and your friend	1417.8345
1289		1419.2000	are-	1419.5672
1291		1419.9034	got a seat together in class. You know how	1421.8360
1293		1422.1774	kids go in and they're looking for seats the first day of school.	1424.8411
1295		1425.2497	You naturally go and sit next to your friend.	1426.8532
1297		1427.8365	So,	1428.2693
1299		1428.9668	If sh- she realized this, and she'd	1430.6737
1301		1430.9478	wait the first week, and she'd let the murmuring and everything go on for about a week.	1434.6028
1303		1435.3941	And suddenly one morn- Monday morning,	1437.7062
1305		1438.2435	she came in, and everyone was murmuring.	1439.8619
1307		1440.6319	She just stared at us. All of a sudden she just	1442.3180
1309		1442.6491	let /ouff/ a	1443.2853
1311		1443.4870	real big scream.	1444.4594
1313		1444.8990	Everybody shut up, you know.	1446.4127
1315		1447.0230	And this kind of shocked us,	1448.2001
1317		1448.6471	and	1448.9937
1319		1449.1488	she decided	1449.8212
1321		1450.0540	right then and there she was going to set up a room plan.	1452.1695
1323		1453.1740	And if she uh-	1454.4331
1325		1455.0797	if anyone	1455.9072
1327		1456.5745	caught talking,	1457.3865
1329		1457.8055	she'd	1458.3124
1331		1458.6984	meet 'em in the cloak room where she had a	1460.3018
1333		1460.5398	yard stick.	1461.2484
1334	DCA_int_01	1461.2898	<laugh>	1461.6415
1335	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1461.5949	And you know you	1462.1898
1336		1462.6553	didn't want to go back there to find out what she did with the yard stick.	1465.0035
1338		1465.9844	So everybody-	1466.8999
1340		1467.4120	not everybody, but a few-	1468.7050
1342		1468.9585	Myself, and a friend of mine	1470.3550
1344		1471.6359	flew notes across the room,	1473.2342
1346		1473.5600	you know, when she turned her back, we'd	1474.7548
1348		1474.9979	make an airplane and fly a note across the room.	1476.8496
1350		1477.2305	That was another one of her pet peeves. She had to get us for that. She-	1479.8167
1352		1480.6908	Oh,	1480.9908
1354		1481.1667	I don't know. She'd- First she'd hit us with the yard stick. Then she'd ask to go and stand in the hall until she	1486.0527
1356		1486.3371	decided we were ready to come back in again.	1488.3544
1358		1488.7164	Or if we decided we were ready to come back in again.	1490.9749
1360		1491.6007	Let's see. What else did she really	1492.9610
1362		1493.6386	get mad about?	1494.3576
1363	DCA_int_01	1494.7145	Was it fair most of the time, or do you think she was being [/inaudible/?]	1497.3453
1364	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1497.2677	[Uh],	1497.6919
1365		1497.8884	at the time I didn't think it was fair, but	1499.7591
1367		1499.9165	when I think about it,	1500.9556
1369		1501.4005	we did some weird- pretty weird things. We weren't as-	1503.5710
1371		1504.4620	as bad as a lot of kids I know, but we did some really	1507.7015
1373		1508.2313	you know, stupid things that she had a right to yell.	1510.1587
1375		1510.4638	She was real emotional [about those things], you know.	1512.8017
1376	DCA_int_01	1511.7724	[<laugh>]	1512.1397
1377		1513.7276	What about the best teacher you ever had? Can you think of	1516.3160
1379		1517.4498	who that would be?	1518.3601
1380	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1519.0998	Aw, I've been lucky in my-	1521.0394
1382		1522.2944	My best teacher	1523.4789
1384		1525.4392	would probably be my French teacher /of/ this year.	1528.0357
1386		1528.3719	The-	1528.5788
1388		1528.8252	No, I don't know. The teacher I-	1530.2011
1390		1530.5218	I most enjoyed listening to is my English teacher-	1533.2217
1392		1533.8579	is uh, Mister /RD-NAME-2/.	1534.8976
1394		1535.8215	And	1536.1474
1396		1537.3836	he-	1537.8439
1398		1538.5474	he- I don't know. He was another person who had a way of expressing himself. He had a type of voice for being a teacher. It wasn't	1544.1058
1400		1544.4965	monotone. You know, where every-	1545.9067
1402		1546.2222	everything's on a set-	1547.3187
1404		1547.5515	You must have heard peop- people lecture	1549.1446
1406		1549.5635	where their voice just goes, you know, bah, and it never really change.	1553.2081
1408		1553.5495	But	1553.7926
1410		1554.1702	he had some way of	1555.0081
1412		1555.4788	raising his voice to hit this peak of perfection, and then bringing it down to show this	1559.6769
1414		1559.8838	you know, descent, and so on.	1561.4251
1416		1561.8027	And he was	1562.2475
1418		1562.4751	a lot of fun to listen to,	1563.7889
1420		1564.1768	and then	1564.7199
1422		1564.8318	again, he made you think a lot.	1566.1042
1424		1566.2646	That was-	1566.5387
1426		1566.7146	the big thing- We did a lot of a writing in his class. He	1569.4301
1428		1570.3766	almost taught me /on he/-	1571.4369
1430		1571.6949	taught me /to know/	1572.5885
1432		1573.1769	to write. Because at first, I really didn't-	1575.2264
1434		1576.0850	I thought I knew how to write,	1577.2281
1435	DCA_int_01	1577.4124	[<laugh>]	1577.8676
1436	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1577.4176	[and then all] of a sudden, I-	1578.4986
1437		1579.1296	He	1579.5331
1439		1580.1279	showed me- pointed out all these little mistakes I was making. I had no idea	1583.1537
1441		1583.5708	there were such things as, you know,	1585.0242
1443		1585.8260	/apostry/ and all that stuff- /apostrophe/.	1588.0604
1445		1589.3173	But I don't know. I've	1590.3602
1447		1590.5982	learned a lot in his class.	1591.9239
1449		1592.4085	The one who-	1592.9309
1451		1593.3395	I think who's gonna have the most effect-	1595.4188
1453		1595.8326	on long range will probably be my French teacher	1597.9203
1455		1598.4686	cause she woke me up to a language that I hadn't really	1600.7651
1457		1601.4634	cared about. I	1602.2393
1459		1602.9098	was really thinking about dropping it	1604.1511
1461		1604.3529	this year.	1604.8391
1463		1605.4598	I didn't really want to continue it, but they advised because I had	1608.7390
1465		1609.2699	years before- you know, a few years experience at it, to continue the language.	1612.4819
1466	DCA_int_01	1612.7640	Mm-hm.	1613.1800
1467	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1613.6095	Other than that,	1614.2405
1469		1614.5716	I don't know. I was- This teacher really woke me up to it. She made me	1617.2128
1471		1618.0610	want to continue, whereas I would have quit I think, had another teacher taught me.	1622.1150
1472	DCA_int_01	1622.3987	Hm.	1622.6160
1474		1623.4332	Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand?	1625.3087
1475	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1627.0590	Uh,	1627.6849
1477		1631.1433	I don't think so.	1632.2450
1479		1632.8450	Eh, I normally get along with all of my teachers	1635.0466
1481		1635.4500	because of-	1636.0345
1483		1637.0017	I don't know why. I- I've had teachers who are	1639.2000
1485		1639.3707	not teaching me	1640.4827
1487		1640.7362	who I couldn't stand at all.	1642.1722
1489		1642.5860	But normally any-	1643.5325
1491		1644.0860	The teachers I've had	1645.0894
1493		1646.1239	I've normally liked. I can't really think of one I didn't really like that much.	1649.7586
1494	DCA_int_01	1651.6357	Were you ever in a class where the kids played a trick on the teacher?	1654.3597
1495	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1654.9730	Quite often.	1655.5131
1497		1656.1441	Uh-	1656.5528
1498	DCA_int_01	1656.7079	Can you tell me about some?	1658.1924
1499	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1658.6147	Oh,	1659.0510
1501		1660.6112	this year,	1661.5836
1503		1661.9767	a fr- (laughing)	1662.9905
1505		1663.2232	a friend of my	1664.1657
1507		1665.3180	uh,	1665.7215
1509		1666.4851	spilled	1667.1575
1511		1667.8144	uh, let's se-	1668.6730
1513		1668.8437	uh- Our teacher had a	1669.7902
1515		1670.0851	Mustang.	1670.6747
1517		1671.9833	Not our teacher, but a teacher at the school had a Mustang.	1674.3659
1519		1675.4572	And for some reason, he had a -	1676.9676
1521		1677.1745	a hate for something, or just	1679.0158
1523		1680.0536	want to have a lot of fun,	1681.0829
1525		1681.4139	so he	1681.8329
1527		1682.5051	spilled syrup	1683.4673
1529		1684.0932	in her bucket seats.	1685.2104
1531		1686.1137	And it was a lot of fun. [You know, she] came out, and	1688.2834
1532	DCA_int_01	1687.0298	[<laugh>]	1687.3965
1533	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1688.4671	looked at it	1689.0878
1534	DCA_int_01	1689.3589	<laugh>	1689.7188
1535	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1690.2464	I thought she was gonna sit in it. He wanted her to sit in it,	1692.2514
1537		1692.7893	and she started- It hardened,	1694.1186
1539		1694.7704	and she started to scrape it off, you know, and	1696.8600
1541		1697.1445	I didn't think she'd be that stupid really. It- All you have to do is	1699.9408
1542	DCA_int_01	1698.6891	<cough>	1699.0926
1543	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1700.1477	put hot water [on it, you know, it'll] melt.	1701.7615
1544	DCA_int_01	1700.8977	[Oh yeah.]	1701.4098
1545	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1702.0460	She started scraping it off and half her seat was coming up [with it.]	1704.8372
1546	DCA_int_01	1704.4441	[<laugh>]	1705.7423
1547	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1705.8458	It was-	1706.1975
1549		1706.8234	I don't know. It was-	1707.6820
1551		1708.1320	it was funny at the moment, but when she- when I started to see it-	1710.8249
1553		1711.0214	And the car was almost brand new and everything, you [know.]	1713.2300
1554	DCA_int_01	1713.0283	[Yeah.]	1713.3800
1555	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1713.7487	It started to get kind of sickening.	1715.3197
1557		1715.6610	Then a lot of other things have happened. You know like	1717.6143
1559		1717.8574	the big thing about putting a frog in a	1719.6108
1560	DCA_int_01	1720.2522	[Yeah.]	1720.8574
1561	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1720.4384	[teacher's] seat or something like that. That always happened, and	1723.1623
1562		1724.0158	when they first came out with these	1725.5158
1564		1725.7382	s-	1725.9968
1566		1726.4158	uh, snakes	1727.4813
1568		1727.9882	that look real, you know /jinger/,	1729.4552
1570		1730.3604	Everybody managed to put one on a teacher's desk somewhere, you know. It's- it was something big, and	1734.7466
1572		1735.2638	it kind of died out though.	1736.3448
1574		1736.8653	Jokes now are getting a little more elaborate.	1738.6195
1575	DCA_int_01	1738.6291	<laugh>	1738.8567
1576	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1739.5963	See, what else can I think of?	1741.0239
1577	DCA_int_01	1741.6272	How do the teachers usually react to these things? Are they good sports or they get mad or what?	1746.7944
1578	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1746.9082	Most of 'em are	1747.7564
1580		1747.9582	good sports, except for	1749.3011
1582		1749.8494	the teacher who had the uh, syrup.	1751.6752
1584		1752.1717	She didn't like that too much-	1753.2484
1586		1753.3402	Oh!	1753.5528
1588		1754.1114	Here it is.	1754.7683
1590		1755.0043	Uh, <laugh>	1755.8681
1592		1756.5819	uh,	1756.8278
1594		1756.9851	AP	1757.4612
1596		1757.7250	English	1758.1750
1598		1758.9560	teacher at our school, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/,	1760.5594
1600		1761.6179	Uh- The Seniors-	1762.6782
1602		1763.4851	He has a car	1764.4316
1604		1764.5920	that he kind of cherishes (laughing). It's- it's real old.	1766.6247
1606		1767.2971	No, it's not real old. It's a Ford.	1769.0383
1608		1769.4728	I'd say it's around sixty two.	1770.7400
1610		1771.0969	And it's blue.	1771.7745
1612		1772.9590	And the Seniors decided,	1774.2210
1614		1774.6071	since they were leaving, you know, nothing was gonna happen to 'em,	1777.0846
1616		1777.9122	so they	1778.3157
1618		1778.7191	painted his car, you know, with 'the class of sixty eight' and all that mess it-	1782.3455
1620		1782.5758	It's m- it's happened so many times but they-	1784.8258
1622		1785.2861	It just had to happen at our school /they figured. Then they/ going to push the crowd on the	1788.0463
1624		1788.5945	football field, out, and had it announced over the PA system,	1791.1186
1626		1791.5635	will the-	1791.9437
1628		1792.1929	will the man with	1793.0272
1630		1793.3150	license plate such and such	1794.9645
1632		1795.1962	please come and get his	1796.0926
1634		1796.7701	nineteen sixty-two blue	1798.2701
1636		1798.8372	Ford Fairl- Fairlane off the football field?, you know. It was pretty good.	1802.5458
1638		1803.0785	Nice joke,	1803.7251
1639	DCA_int_01	1803.9475	<laugh>	1804.2992
1640	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1804.3147	as far it went. Gregory	1805.5490
1642		1805.7921	had a lot to do with it. [He-]	1807.3697
1643	DCA_int_01	1806.9301	[Oh yeah?]	1807.3904
1644	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1807.8663	Yeah. He was one of those.	1809.3507
1645	DCA_int_01	1809.7508	Mm-hm. What did the guy- what did the guy say? Do you know?	1812.5214
1646	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1813.4402	Um, Mister /RD-NAME-2/ took it /in all/- in good stride. They-	1815.5246
1648		1815.7936	N-	1816.0522
1650		1816.4246	I think it washed off pretty easily	1818.1832
1651	DCA_int_01	1818.1948	Uh-huh.	1818.5227
1652	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1818.4056	because they didn't- They used white wash I think.	1820.7158
1653	DCA_int_01	1820.7106	Oh.	1820.9951
1654	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1821.2899	And they taped a	1822.0451
1656		1822.5520	stripe-	1823.1520
1658		1823.5813	They used tape, and taped his car up pretty good, but other than that, it was okay.	1827.1121
1659	DCA_int_01	1829.1862	When you were a kid, was there a bunch of kids you always hung- hang arou-	1831.9154
1661		1832.3188	hung around with, say? (laughing)	1833.8565
1662	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1834.0257	/Unintelligible/	1834.7860
1664		1835.1636	Uh-	1835.5954
1665	DCA_int_01	1836.6184	Sort of your group?	1837.8119
1666	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1838.3944	Well in most cases it was. Once-	1840.2617
1668		1840.9134	once my group almost got called a gang.	1843.0703
1670		1843.4323	/Who were in it/ <laugh>	1844.2022
1672		1844.6459	Boy that-	1845.1115
1674		1845.7321	I don't know.	1846.2442
1676		1847.1649	When I was in second grade,	1848.4993
1678		1849.7130	we	1850.1164
1680		1850.8664	/unintelligible/	1851.2802
1682		1851.5336	I guess there around fifteen of us,	1853.1940
1684		1854.0319	and we did-	1854.7974
1686		1855.2836	Well, it- it- it could almost be called a gang, but it wasn't,	1858.0136
1688		1858.1448	you know-	1858.4782
1690		1858.7162	We didn't consider it a gang. It was just a group of boys.	1861.0696
1692		1861.5920	And	1861.9747
1694		1862.6368	there was another group of boys,	1864.2291
1696		1864.8630	and we	1865.3504
1698		1866.2866	uh,	1866.6590
1700		1868.2366	used to fight over little things. You know, like-	1870.2157
1702		1870.6502	Think we were called the Turkeys.	1872.1657
1704		1872.8898	And I forgot exactly what they were called,	1874.7570
1706		1875.2381	but	1875.5846
1708		1875.8907	we'd	1876.2034
1710		1876.3638	make up all k- kind of little jokes about 'em, and we'd uh-	1879.1982
1712		1879.4930	fight 'em.	1880.0155
1714		1880.6103	And a couple of times, we'd get caught by the principal or some teacher.	1883.8308
1716		1884.4152	They reprimand us, and	1885.4704
1718		1886.6600	talk to our parents and all that.	1888.3462
1719	DCA_int_01	1888.5583	Mm-hm.	1889.0824
1720	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1889.4874	But	1889.7719
1722		1889.9685	I don't know. It'd-	1890.6254
1724		1890.7598	Most cases,	1891.6340
1726		1892.0943	the friends I had	1892.8340
1728		1893.5529	were okay.	1894.2460
1730		1894.6010	They-	1894.9993
1732		1896.8820	they were-	1897.4096
1734		1898.6665	I don't know. Most of them thought about what they were going to do before they did it.	1901.5049
1736		1902.1249	Therefore, we didn't get in as much trouble as we could have gotten into in most cases, but they were okay.	1906.2835
1737	DCA_int_01	1907.4971	Did any of them speak any foreign languages?	1909.6747
1738	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1911.4438	Well, here	1912.2660
1740		1912.7057	at our school- at [my school now]-	1914.4883
1741	DCA_int_01	1913.4668	[/Inaudible/] this group.	1915.0676
1742	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1915.0883	Oh in this group?	1915.7607
1744		1916.7227	I don't think so. Maybe someone did.	1918.7865
1746		1919.3348	Oh, excuse me.	1920.2451
1748		1920.5639	We had a um,	1921.4070
1750		1922.7518	uh, a girl,	1923.9156
1752		1924.1897	/RD-NAME-7/	1925.7569
1754		1926.7016	and she spoke several sf- foreign languages well.	1929.3964
1756		1930.6843	But, she never really displayed her talents with us.	1933.4074
1758		1934.0238	N-	1934.2100
1760		1934.6238	Occasionally she might say something	1936.2479
1762		1936.9824	in uh- uh- Spanish or something, but	1938.8134
1764		1939.4994	other than that,	1940.1356
1766		1940.5804	she spoke /English/- English most of the time.	1942.5408
1767	DCA_int_01	1942.9804	Mm-hm.	1943.4925
1769		1943.7977	Were there any white kids in the bunch?	1945.6992
1770	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1946.8888	Well,	1947.3130
1772		1947.6388	in the beginning,	1948.3888
1774		1949.3664	uh,	1949.6871
1776		1950.0750	my neighbor was well integrated.	1951.5181
1778		1952.3076	And	1952.7783
1780		1953.2127	there were	1954.0041
1782		1954.2162	white kids,	1955.1627
1784		1956.0627	but as a uh-	1957.1541
1786		1958.2539	M- I guess by the time I was around the sixth- When I	1960.7522
1788		1961.1918	came to the sixth grade-	1962.3608
1790		1962.7383	my sixth grade year,	1963.7330
1792		1964.3813	I started realizing a lot of my white friends were	1966.7606
1794		1967.6088	gone.	1968.0433
1796		1969.2435	And now,	1969.8536
1798		1970.1640	the neighborhood's not half as integrated as it was, I would say.	1972.5724
1800		1972.8310	For every	1973.4724
1802		1973.9689	six Negro families, there may be two	1976.0948
1804		1976.4514	/of Caucasian/ families and that's about it. They're not-	1978.6325
1806		1979.2273	We-	1979.4549
1808		1980.0135	Unfortunately,	1981.0222
1810		1981.2342	the- some of the kids I hung around with didn't really	1983.3652
1812		1984.3409	know how to associate with uh white children,	1986.8857
1814		1987.5064	but we didn't-	1988.3495
1816		1988.6598	most of the time, we didn't really think about it.	1990.5510
1817	DCA_int_01	1990.6907	[Mm-hm.]	1991.0372
1818	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	1990.8717	[It was] just- They were there, and they were friends. And we played around with them just as we would anybody else.	1994.9010
1819	DCA_int_01	1996.0163	Was there one kid that was looked up to as the leader?	1998.2340
1820	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2000.0456	Well,	2000.6456
1822		2000.8525	it more or less fluctuated.	2002.0525
1824		2002.3370	Depending upon-	2003.2816
1826		2004.9730	In-	2005.3454
1828		2005.6764	The littlest kid in most cases,	2007.6316
1830		2008.1436	was the one- Let's see. /RD-NAME-3/.	2009.9521
1832		2010.3814	He was pretty-	2011.1314
1834		2011.7883	he was pretty tough on that.	2013.0917
1836		2013.2055	I don't know. He-	2013.9141
1838		2014.8917	he	2015.3365
1840		2015.9812	believed he was a genius, you know,	2017.7760
1842		2018.2053	and everybody else	2019.2035
1844		2019.4311	sol- uh- more or less went along with him cause he thought of some weird things to do.	2022.8442
1846		2024.2344	And, let's see, sometimes I'd	2025.7240
1848		2026.0240	make the, you know, top thing.	2027.3223
1850		2028.2048	But we didn't- It depended upon what you had	2030.2634
1852		2030.5324	to offer at that time, whether or not you were the leader. We didn't really	2033.3358
1854		2033.9288	uh,	2034.1867
1856		2034.3790	associate any one person as a leader.	2036.3753
1858		2036.5925	We just-	2037.0632
1860		2037.2494	If a person came /up with a/ ingenious idea	2039.4425
1862		2039.8563	we give him his chance ot be a leader you know, and he'd	2041.9847
1864		2042.1334	/Unintelligible/	2042.6371
1865	DCA_int_01	2043.2268	Was that mostly what you looked for? Uh-	2045.1457
1867		2045.6164	good ideas in a leader?	2047.1816
1869		2048.0248	You have to be big and strong or, what was it?	2050.2320
1870	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2050.8076	Well,	2051.2162
1872		2051.5058	we didn't really care that much about how big they were because in most cases,	2055.4091
1874		2055.7298	the little boys thought they could beat the bigger ones anyway, even if they couldn't.	2058.6211
1876		2059.0918	So we didn't really think about it. I was always a little bigger	2061.6916
1878		2062.3847	before-	2062.8968
1880		2063.0477	than my age.	2063.7916
1882		2064.6037	Uh,	2065.0278
1884		2065.9278	I don't- do- If- I think I was	2067.7052
1886		2068.3621	one of the	2068.8069
1888		2069.0345	biggest ones of my group,	2070.2500
1890		2071.0517	until suddenly, it's- when I got into seventh grade,	2073.3153
1892		2074.1119	I left my group,	2074.9756
1894		2075.2032	and start going for older people- uh- you know, people a lot older than I was	2078.3532
1896		2078.6015	at that time. You know s-	2079.5668
1898		2079.8720	eighth or ninth grade.	2080.7565
1900		2081.4444	And	2081.6978
1902		2082.1064	then I became small all of a [sudden.]	2083.9892
1903	DCA_int_01	2083.6867	[<laugh>]	2083.9402
1904	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2084.1238	You know?	2084.4030
1906		2084.9978	Lost that feeling of superiority, but we d-	2087.4786
1907	DCA_int_01	2086.3252	<laugh>	2087.3855
1908	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2087.9442	we didn't really	2088.6683
1910		2089.4131	um,	2089.7390
1912		2090.0131	capitalize on that	2090.9338
1914		2091.3353	biggest person being the	2092.5198
1916		2092.7112	big man, you know, the big leader. We didn't do it as much.	2095.1836
1917	DCA_int_01	2095.8249	What if a new kid wanted to get in?	2097.3767
1919		2097.8454	Start hanging with you. What would [he have to do?]	2100.0747
1920	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2099.4178	[It depends upon] what type of person	2101.4299
1921		2102.6092	he	2102.9971
1923		2103.2195	appeared to us-	2104.1901
1925		2104.4218	appeared you know, to us, to be.	2105.7831
1927		2106.1814	We'd go over his house a lot.	2107.4486
1929		2108.4986	It was almost like joining a fraternity in most cases. He-	2110.9536
1931		2111.5639	he	2111.8122
1933		2112.2157	had a lot of weird things to do.	2113.7519
1935		2114.0984	So like,	2114.6156
1937		2114.9518	after he got finished eating, run a couple of miles around the block you know.	2118.0741
1939		2118.4568	And we'd time him and see how fast he did it in.	2120.4223
1941		2121.4723	But	2121.8706
1943		2122.1499	I don't know. We didn't really	2123.3428
1945		2125.1014	push him that hard to do anything. If he-	2126.9273
1947		2127.3410	if he wanted to	2128.2048
1949		2128.5928	be with us	2129.3841
1951		2129.6253	we'd welcome him in most cases because we weren't-	2131.5805
1953		2132.0098	there weren't that many	2132.8322
1955		2133.1943	people	2133.6960
1957		2134.1667	who really wanted to uh,	2135.3925
1959		2136.5803	be a decent group because a lot of people just go around and do all-	2139.4458
1961		2139.8699	all kinds of weird things. When I was younger, everybody	2141.9388
1963		2142.8576	didn't	2143.3852
1965		2143.5542	find all these weird things they do, you know.	2145.3611
1967		2145.9145	The- there weren't that many ways to get into trouble. You couldn't go around stealing and everything.	2149.1402
1969		2150.2156	But,	2150.5264
1971		2150.8264	I don't know. As I got older, it's- it was real easy to	2152.9005
1973		2153.0867	become separated.	2153.9970
1975		2154.2712	Even	2154.5918
1977		2154.9849	fifth- sixth grade it was easy to become separated because people started	2158.2520
1979		2159.5832	growing up all of a sudden. It-	2161.0347
1981		2161.9341	I don't know.	2162.5276
1982	DCA_int_01	2162.9052	Hm.	2163.1949
1984		2165.2483	/Oh s-/	2166.0190
1986		2166.2724	change things a little.	2167.7955
1988		2168.0228	Change the topic.	2168.8753
1990		2169.6946	Do you have any idea what you want to be when you finish your school?	2172.4983
1992		2172.9268	All your schooling?	2173.8927
1993	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2175.4651	Oh, I've had so many ideas. I would-	2177.7663
1995		2178.9456	/NASA Field of Architecture/.	2180.6563
1997		2181.6649	Uh,	2182.0994
1999		2182.9114	as far as I can say, that's	2184.3080
2001		2184.5924	what I've wanted to be for	2185.6528
2003		2186.2579	a couple of years now.	2187.3681
2005		2188.3349	But,	2188.6146
2007		2189.0543	a lot of-	2189.6672
2009		2189.8771	a lot of other things have popped up that I	2192.0905
2011		2192.9886	don't really know about, and I'm really uncertain as to what I wanna be.	2196.5368
2012	DCA_int_01	2196.5679	Mm-hm.	2197.1161
2014		2198.6109	What would it take to be an architect?	2200.2228
2015	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2201.5935	For one thing, I'd have to bring my math grade to a good solid B plus.	2205.1676
2017		2206.2467	And	2206.6918
2019		2207.5657	what an art-	2208.3364
2021		2209.2053	I don't-	2209.5260
2023		2209.8105	I like art a lot.	2210.7932
2025		2211.3519	That's one of the reasons I	2212.5001
2027		2212.9482	decided to go into it	2214.1620
2029		2214.4855	and	2214.8440
2031		2215.3275	advertising.	2216.1448
2033		2216.6827	I've done some- I've	2217.8465
2035		2218.6566	done some advertise- I've uh	2220.2911
2037		2220.6428	made some drawings for different	2221.8583
2038	DCA_int_01	2222.1842	Hm.	2222.4894
2039	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2222.7221	books and magazines.	2223.8497
2041		2225.0633	And I don't know.	2225.9374
2043		2226.1857	Through that,	2226.7340
2045		2227.1529	I got the idea in my head	2228.4615
2047		2228.8133	about being a-	2229.6512
2049		2229.9201	uh-	2230.2977
2051		2230.7219	architectural engineer or something.	2232.4372
2052	DCA_int_01	2232.4588	Mm-hm.	2232.7823
2053	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2232.6958	I don't know. /It's wise/ just to see.	2234.0924
2054	DCA_int_01	2235.7372	What kind of training would you need?	2237.4939
2055	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2237.9801	The training?	2238.6835
2056	DCA_int_01	2239.6921	Do you have to [go to school] /inaudible/-	2240.8066
2057	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2240.0128	[That's]-	2240.4612
2058		2240.8197	Yes (laughing).	2241.6990
2060		2241.8128	That's-	2242.1180
2062		2243.2249	I'd- Th- the- that's one of the reasons.	2244.9816
2064		2245.1781	The four more	2245.9902
2066		2246.1454	extra years- the two more extra years- Excuse me-	2248.4419
2068		2248.6953	required	2249.2281
2070		2249.9729	in college and the-	2250.9279
2072		2252.0451	/I would ??/	2252.6710
2074		2253.3382	I wouldn't be required I don't think,	2255.0658
2076		2255.2520	to take a language.	2256.4468
2078		2256.6208	That would help me a lot. I like that.	2258.2501
2080		2258.9018	But I would- I would be required to take	2260.5414
2082		2261.3121	uh,	2261.7828
2084		2262.6259	I'd have to take Intermediate Algebra over again.	2264.8378
2086		2266.0740	And	2266.4878
2088		2267.8326	I'm not sure what other, uh,	2269.2757
2090		2269.4548	Math courses I'd have to take, but that would be the stressed subjects.	2272.2120
2092		2273.0514	And I could take uh,	2274.4513
2094		2274.7720	Freelance Art	2275.6047
2096		2276.5649	and	2277.0304
2098		2277.2994	History of	2277.9615
2100		2278.1477	uh,	2278.4890
2102		2278.7683	Art.	2279.0890
2104		2279.6321	There will be a lot of courses.	2280.9563
2106		2281.1890	Seminars and stuff.	2282.2604
2108		2282.8785	/But that uh/	2283.4785
2110		2283.9647	gone to some of 'em. I've talked to some of my	2285.7261
2112		2285.9185	consorts about it, but	2287.0681
2114		2287.4146	I haven't really got any	2288.1543
2116		2288.3955	definite plans or	2289.4196
2118		2289.6265	have any real set knowledge as to what I would be required to do-	2292.6524
2120		2292.9602	/to do it yet/, but I'll probably find out	2294.8351
2122		2295.4591	next year, when they st- when I start thinking a little bit more about colleges. I'm not sure yet.	2299.3332
2123	DCA_int_01	2300.4061	Think you will shoot for college though?	2302.1118
2124	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2302.8693	Definitely am.	2303.7475
2125	DCA_int_01	2303.6416	<laugh>	2304.3858
2126	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2304.6564	Ah, that's-	2305.6045
2128		2306.6700	I have no question in my mind	2308.2095
2130		2308.8107	really.	2309.2554
2132		2309.6464	The only question (laughing) in my mind whether or not Uncle Sam wants me or not, [you know.]	2312.9583
2133	DCA_int_01	2312.6407	[<laugh>]	2313.1685
2134	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2313.3200	That's about it, but	2314.1509
2136		2314.9378	if I have my way about it,	2316.1694
2138		2316.8176	I'll definitely go to college.	2318.2546
2140		2318.8899	I don't-	2319.2711
2142		2319.5204	S- some people,	2320.6494
2144		2321.4461	it's not good to go to college, but	2323.0718
2146		2323.4041	as far as I'm concerned, I'm pretty sure the work in college couldn't be	2326.8791
2148		2327.6464	that much harder.	2328.5684
2150		2328.8176	It probably- it's-	2329.5214
2152		2329.6485	it'll probably be harder, but it-	2330.8362
2154		2331.0121	I should be	2331.5839
2156		2332.0043	prepared enough to go	2333.1430
2158		2333.9641	through it	2334.3600
2160		2334.8079	to make my mark on the world and so on. I can't do it without a college education.	2338.4481
2161	DCA_int_01	2338.8678	Mm-hm.	2339.2931
2163		2339.7115	You're probably right.	2340.6173
2165		2342.4647	Uh,	2342.9486
2167		2343.5204	here's a question for you to use your imagination. If you had all the money in the world	2347.7951
2169		2348.0933	that you wanted, what would you do with it?	2350.4419
2170	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2353.4823	Probably,	2354.2594
2172		2355.1392	I'd	2355.5009
2174		2355.8332	buy my way into politics	2357.2994
2176		2358.0509	somehow.	2358.6848
2178		2359.4335	Uh,	2359.8000
2180		2360.1764	I don't know all this mess that's been going on lately, I l-	2362.4539
2182		2362.9427	like to see really,	2364.1401
2184		2364.7248	what it would be like	2365.4579
2186		2366.1764	for me to have a chance to help some of these	2368.1607
2188		2368.6054	poor people and	2369.5291
2190		2370.0161	all the Civil Rights	2371.1695
2192		2371.3846	that's going on. All these disturbances, somehow,	2373.7476
2194		2374.7129	I'd-	2375.0600
2196		2375.8988	I'd use it some way to uh,	2377.3113
2198		2378.3230	help someone	2379.1441
2200		2379.3005	or see	2380.1460
2202		2380.3855	how I could get up	2381.3972
2204		2381.8419	far enough in the world so as I could	2383.4628
2206		2383.6876	have a big enough influence	2385.2418
2207	DCA_int_01	2385.2369	Mm.	2385.4862
2208	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2385.7990	on the world whereas my word would mean something.	2387.9397
2210		2388.4853	And	2388.7785
2212		2389.0327	my word could	2389.7267
2214		2390.1470	mean a difference of the life of someone here,	2392.1460
2216		2392.5077	or money f- or food for some little kid down the street or something like that.	2396.2839
2218		2396.8905	Uh-	2397.1047
2220		2397.9896	I don't know. I don't think I'd use it any	2399.6758
2222		2400.2873	big	2400.5782
2224		2400.9496	you know, blow up- b- build up a s- uh-	2402.9046
2226		2403.7110	perfect city or anything for all the-	2405.3630
2228		2405.7100	for all the poor people. I'd	2406.7499
2230		2407.2897	try and uh,	2408.2203
2232		2409.6035	get- S- somehow, get some position where- whereas I would be listened to.	2413.2331
2233	DCA_int_01	2413.3797	Mm-hm.	2413.8733
2234	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2413.7854	As-	2414.0248
2235		2414.2057	as a	2414.6895
2237		2415.0561	valid person with valid ideas	2417.0627
2239		2417.1870	and important ideas.	2418.5244
2241		2419.5263	I don't know, seems as if money,	2421.0952
2243		2421.6035	in most cases,	2422.6445
2245		2423.2163	or	2423.5634
2247		2424.6906	uh,	2425.1402
2249		2426.7876	I don't know,	2427.2565
2251		2427.4813	draw something, w-	2428.5931
2255		2431.4237	And	2431.7609
2257		2432.1128	/some money/ would you- uh, you know-	2433.6670
2259		2434.2535	It would kind of	2434.7863
2261		2435.1870	give me-	2435.6367
2263		2436.0961	not really power, but	2437.3064
2265		2438.7922	I couldn't really say a	2439.7355
2267		2440.1411	ability to be listened to and	2441.9739
2269		2442.5928	thought of seriously. Say like uh,	2444.5185
2271		2444.9144	James Brown.	2445.6670
2273		2446.1753	He's-	2446.6054
2275		2447.1870	I don't	2447.5487
2277		2448.2898	really like him that much though.	2449.6632
2279		2450.7238	I don't think he's militant enough for some cases, but-	2453.3141
2281		2453.5976	He's a little too	2454.3698
2283		2454.9056	all American boy for [me, but]	2456.4843
2284	DCA_int_01	2456.1373	[Yeah.]	2456.4843
2285	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2456.8801	uh,	2457.2320
2287		2457.6426	with his money	2458.4539
2289		2459.1675	he could-	2459.6855
2291		2460.4462	N- not- He couldn't, you know, just	2461.7463
2293		2461.8929	donate a million dollars to	2463.1294
2295		2463.6817	the people down who are poor because that's not doing anything, you know. There's still a	2466.9594
2297		2467.1353	couple of hundred million people who are still out poor.	2469.1099
2299		2469.6475	He could use his money, and	2470.5272
2301		2470.9769	he could-	2471.4998
2303		2471.8939	When he says something,	2473.1207
2305		2473.9906	and get say a cor- a corporation of people	2476.3610
2307		2476.9818	all around the United States to decide to donate money. It's a big difference because	2480.3132
2309		2480.5967	they're-	2480.9241
2311		2481.1685	/want/ everybody together doing it. One- one person,	2483.5829
2313		2483.8175	no matter how much money they have, they can't	2485.4041
2315		2486.1666	uh,	2486.4598
2317		2486.7775	decide that,	2487.6035
2319		2488.3122	you know, sh- shape the ideas of,	2489.9348
2321		2490.5733	you know,	2490.8812
2323		2491.0474	the rest of the people.	2492.0493
2325		2492.3865	If	2492.5918
2327		2492.8215	the	2493.1196
2329		2493.5204	whole	2493.8039
2331		2494.1069	person-	2494.5761
2333		2495.1039	the whole United States so to speak, just	2496.8225
2335		2497.4335	gets together on this thing,	2498.5038
2337		2499.0268	and it-	2499.3884
2339		2500.2731	I don't know. Unfortunately, in our dec- a- on our economy,	2502.9301
2341		2503.6925	money seems to be the only whereas people would join together. We're j- you know, we're so hypocritical about the thing. Money's a big thing.	2509.6436
2342	DCA_int_01	2509.9613	/Mm. Yeah./	2510.7873
2343	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2510.8411	Money'll be	2511.6279
2345		2512.0238	the only way I think anybody really be recognized	2514.3894
2347		2514.7688	completely	2515.5410
2349		2516.5527	as having valid arguments,	2518.2682
2351		2518.5761	valid ideas, and having this	2520.2329
2353		2520.7688	valid arguments and ideas carried through by the rest of the people	2523.6133
2354	DCA_int_01	2524.0094	[Mm-hm.]	2524.4347
2355	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2524.1264	[or his] followers or whatever.	2525.6007
2356	DCA_int_01	2526.4902	If you had political power, do you know- do you have any idea what you would say and what you would do?	2530.8840
2358		2531.8206	What sort of programs you would	2533.2185
2360		2534.4110	[like to see?]	2535.2467
2361	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2534.4843	[If I had] political power, I would look into deeply	2537.3190
2362		2537.8273	all of the	2538.3405
2364		2538.5342	different um,	2539.3797
2366		2541.2663	struggles	2542.0189
2368		2542.2340	that have been going on.	2543.3190
2370		2544.0357	Of Mart- That's all these	2545.2624
2372		2545.5654	riots and everything. I- I kind of hate being an outsider	2548.5174
2374		2548.7911	looking in.	2549.3532
2376		2549.9526	I'd- I want- I would wanna get down deep in all these things because really	2553.0805
2378		2553.5986	unfortunately, I- I wanted- I /went there/-	2555.7882
2380		2556.1088	I'm in a few projects now whereas I	2557.8880
2382		2558.2155	get a chance to work with some of my people, who really- you kn- who are-	2561.1724
2384		2561.3972	were in this thing. They're right there.	2562.8274
2386		2563.7854	And I feel alienated.	2564.8411
2388		2565.2565	Uh,	2565.5644
2389	DCA_int_01	2565.8512	Mm.	2566.1179
2390	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2566.1509	I'm not	2566.6347
2392		2566.9475	the same type of person. I've been brought up in a sheltered life really	2569.7414
2394		2570.1226	compared- I- I'm not as bad as some of the people are	2572.9818
2396		2573.6855	uh,	2574.0423
2398		2574.9398	in my class,	2575.8733
2400		2576.0102	but	2576.2741
2402		2576.4207	the middle class Negro unfortunately	2578.3464
2404		2578.8254	just doesn't realize what's going on.	2580.7834
2406		2581.2624	And	2581.5410
2408		2583.2320	I don't know	2583.7159
2410		2583.9163	political power would enable me to	2585.4363
2412		2586.1578	/get/ down and find out. I could	2587.5166
2414		2588.4354	u- I could use my	2589.5302
2416		2589.7941	um,	2590.1949
2418		2590.8107	power to	2591.2750
2420		2591.5047	have investigations	2592.7499
2421	DCA_int_01	2593.1695	[Mm-hm.]	2593.4677
2422	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2593.2038	[of]	2593.4286
2423		2594.8313	such and such of these problems here and there.	2597.1528
2425		2597.9649	And	2598.2818
2427		2598.6026	I don't really- I couldn't really say what I'd do because I'm not	2601.4422
2429		2601.7628	prepared now	2602.5908
2431		2602.8351	to do anything. That's we- that's were the college educations comes in.	2605.5361
2433		2605.9222	Cause my ideas are so	2606.8801
2435		2607.4813	jangled. I can't get out most of the ideas I have unfortunately.	2610.3796
2437		2611.2673	But	2611.5019
2439		2612.0053	my ideas are, you know, they're kind of crammed up in my head,	2614.5712
2441		2614.9866	and	2615.3092
2443		2615.5438	/unintelligible/ (tape distortion)	2616.2476
2445		2616.6368	Like /in there/ I couldn't do much (tape distortion) because I'm too unstable, but	2619.0365
2447		2619.7110	after I /unintelligible/ (tape distortion),	2620.6103
2449		2621.0257	my ideas	2621.5829
2451		2622.0564	come together, and I see what I really want because right now I don't really know.	2625.4666
2453		2626.2584	But,	2626.5419
2455		2626.7765	with this political power	2628.1010
2457		2628.2605	I could express these ideas,	2629.8342
2458	DCA_int_01	2629.9725	Mm-hm.	2630.4140
2459	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2630.3963	and I could carry them through.	2631.4862
2460		2632.1313	And	2632.3562
2462		2632.6787	someone would, you know-	2633.9886
2464		2634.5684	someone-	2635.1793
2466		2635.3553	I would try and help someone to see the blunt of the thing.	2637.8283
2467	DCA_int_01	2638.7960	I think your thoughts on this are a lot more mature than some of the older fellas I-	2642.9681
2468	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2642.9681	Nah.	2643.5227
2469	DCA_int_01	2643.7159	/Though/ not necessarily from your school, but /you know/	2646.3778
2471		2646.7346	/inaudible/.	2647.6094
2473		2648.1764	Do you think there's a tension among	2649.7257
2475		2650.2731	your people these days between the haves and the have nots so to speak?	2654.0257
2476	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2654.5674	Uh, there [definitely is.]	2655.9176
2477	DCA_int_01	2655.0952	[/inaudible/]	2655.8137
2478	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2656.0619	The-	2656.3073
2480		2657.3996	the people	2658.2134
2482		2658.4755	who are-	2658.9643
2484		2659.3162	S- say for instance I have a friend	2660.8215
2486		2661.6230	who- His name is Mike.	2662.7032
2488		2662.9133	He's nineteen years old,	2664.1645
2490		2664.9007	and he's, uh,	2665.5459
2492		2666.0200	president	2666.5331
2494		2666.8313	of a club in southeast.	2668.4148
2496		2669.6855	And	2670.1352
2498		2671.4188	this club,	2672.0542
2500		2672.2546	the group of boys-	2673.3249
2502		2673.4569	th-	2673.6426
2504		2673.8381	they aren't really-	2674.5761
2506		2674.7374	they're-	2675.1870
2508		2675.3483	they're far from poor, but they're not middle class.	2677.9515
2510		2678.7335	Uh, they're, uh-	2679.4911
2512		2680.4001	<burp>	2680.6054
2514		2680.7423	Excuse me. They- they don't have the	2682.3551
2516		2683.4335	best things in life,	2684.6211
2518		2685.1538	and they	2685.5644
2520		2686.3953	manage to get into a lot of trouble.	2688.0130
2522		2688.7688	And they see	2689.2917
2524		2689.6143	the people in my class,	2691.0466
2526		2692.2882	as, uh, Uncle Toms,	2694.1768
2528		2694.3123	you know.	2694.6173
2530		2694.8274	They-	2695.1109
2532		2695.4090	they can't help but see it because	2696.9388
2534		2697.1196	people in my class	2698.0825
2536		2698.7911	say a- a- all these laws. They've been a lot of Civil Rights laws passed.	2701.9809
2538		2702.6847	So the majority of the people,	2704.3855
2540		2705.2261	in- of the middle class Negroes, seems to- s-	2707.2086
2542		2707.4726	think as if these uh-	2708.7726
2544		2709.1685	these laws are all that /un/necessary.	2710.9622
2546		2711.2359	They've done as much as they can. The- Meaning the white man- They've done as much as they can.	2714.7042
2548		2715.0365	Let's um,	2715.6964
2550		2716.9915	let them-	2717.4461
2552		2718.3142	Let's give 'em a chance to uh, find out, you know, give 'em a chance to accept us.	2722.1607
2554		2722.5810	But the people in the ghettos and everything, they don't want a chance to be accepted, they j- they	2726.7189
2556		2727.0659	they're sick of waiting, you know. They've been waiting [for so many] years.	2729.7931
2557	DCA_int_01	2728.8645	[Mm.]	2729.3092
2558	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2730.1481	And to begin with, they have nothing to lose.	2731.9418
2559	DCA_int_01	2732.2350	Right.	2732.5087
2560	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2732.5967	Uh,	2732.8948
2562		2733.2125	the- this- This has been said so many times, but not very many people	2736.6515
2564		2737.0083	really realize what little- how little they have to lose. I've heard people, um, in debates.	2741.2212
2566		2741.6855	People have s-	2742.1841
2568		2742.3827	ask	2742.7541
2570		2743.0865	why all these people down in	2744.5038
2572		2744.7286	downtown Washington are burning up everything,	2746.7227
2574		2747.1039	and why they're burning themselves out of homes. And in most cases, you should go see some of the homes they are living in, you know.	2752.4686
2575	DCA_int_01	2751.1490	<laugh>	2751.9798
2576	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2752.7227	About the size of this room, and	2754.1059
2578		2754.5097	rats and everything else running around. Twelve kids in the place.	2757.3151
2580		2757.5742	Not really much to lose, like the poor people's march,	2760.2183
2582		2760.9496	um,	2761.2575
2584		2761.6143	a lot of the people down there actually living better than they were in their own homes. That's-	2765.4118
2585	DCA_int_01	2765.4087	Mm.	2765.7059
2586	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	2765.6562	in a lot cases, that's the reason they're there.	2767.2966
2587		2767.6632	/Yeah/ because they have more-	2768.5429
2589		2768.9926	The	2769.2418
2591		2769.4520	march	2770.0629
2593		2770.2291	offers them- The- they're guaranteed food.	2772.4089
2595		2772.8519	They guaranteed a home at all costs- I mean, at all times, without cost,	2776.4735
2597		2777.1039	which is a big difference from what they had to suffer before.	2779.8538
2599		2780.2839	In a lot of cases,	2781.2858
2601		2781.8185	the-	2782.0482
2603		2783.0942	they were paying enough	2784.6661
2605		2784.9105	in their little dinky rooms	2786.6749
2607		2787.3591	to have a,	2788.0043
2609		2788.2877	not,	2788.6005
2611		2788.9769	you know,	2789.5340
2613		2789.7229	a normal apartment, but a halfway decent apartment somewhere else.	2792.7238
2615		2793.2320	Whereas	2793.7783
2617		2794.0092	it- you know, when you're s-	2794.9720
2619		2795.3923	say f-	2795.8615
2621		2796.3631	only forty five dollars a month,	2797.6876
2623		2798.2301	that's not that much really, but it's enough to	2800.4783
2625		2800.8840	do better than you're doing. I-	2802.1156
2627		2802.5146	one place had a seventy five dollar a month rent on it.	2804.6895
2629		2805.2760	It was	2805.5029
2631		2805.6603	two room apartment,	2806.7325
2633		2807.6562	and the apartment was a good hundred years old, you know, ready to fall down.	2811.1245
2635		2811.6866	It was unbelievable the cost they were making 'em pay.	2814.3160
2636	DCA_int_01	2814.4706	Yeah.	2814.7541
2638		2815.2033	Hm.	2815.4179