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1	DCA_int_01	0.5630	That's what this whole /??/ is supposedly about.	2.8930
2	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	3.0396	Yeah.	3.8204
3	DCA_int_01	4.9824	I'd like to ask you one more question about that, and then we'll move on to something else	8.4817
5		8.6503	You don't have to answer any of these cause they're not on the questionnaire.	11.2932
6	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	11.2712	[Okay.]	11.7257
7	DCA_int_01	11.5168	[But] uh, what do you- what do you think	13.3446
8		14.3783	of the white kids in your school now?	16.6496
10		17.1188	Are they	17.5293
12		18.3797	open-minded, do you find? Or?	19.8680
13	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	20.5424	[A majority-]	21.4868
14	DCA_int_01	20.6181	[/unintelligible/]	21.8497
15	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	21.9487	of the uh,	22.7075
17		23.7411	white kids at my school-	24.8518
19		25.3050	I would say the ones who play sports are the most open minded.	28.0249
21		28.6407	The others,	29.2382
23		29.6547	because they associate with me, and other	32.0080
25		32.5945	Negro students, and they	33.8482
27		34.2184	realize that	34.8255
29		35.5718	we're no- not that much diff- no different at all.	37.6480
31		37.9120	You know, we're just people.	39.1692
32	DCA_int_01	39.3072	Mm-hm.	39.7361
33	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	40.3666	Uh,	40.6818
35		40.8028	at our school- our school is extremely liberal. The people at our school,	43.7939
37		44.8336	uh-	45.0865
39		45.2478	unfortunately, they don't understand all the problems that are going on.	48.2082
40	DCA_int_01	48.0903	Mm-hm.	48.5118
41	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	48.6664	They are sympathetic with most of the cause.	50.8988
43		51.2323	Most-	51.5769
45		52.4090	The- This is- That phrase I just used as a phrase, I would have been shot down for at Southeast.	56.4471
47		56.7404	They hate to be	57.5051
49		58.3995	the- have sympathy for.	59.9134
51		60.4339	Uh,	60.7382
53		61.0058	that	61.3613
55		61.4700	s- excuse me- for whites to have [sympathy for] them, that's the big thing. They don't want sympathy, they want	66.3965
56	DCA_int_01	63.6583	[Mm-hm.]	63.9589
57	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	66.6774	people to help.	67.2822
59		67.9640	Help because they	68.8548
61		69.4303	feel deeply that it's- it's necessary	71.4780
63		71.6100	to help. It's- it's a	72.8013
65		73.2008	cause worth while, not	74.3298
67		74.4655	sympathy for someone, you know, sympathetic cause [because]	77.3636
68	DCA_int_01	77.0813	[Yeah.]	77.4076
69	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	77.9904	in most-	78.3130
71		78.6172	in the most cases- like	79.8035
73		80.1261	a few people at my school,	81.3981
75		82.1788	are- I feel are bi-	83.3665
77		83.5937	big put ons. They're	84.7984
79		85.3629	acting as if they accept me and	87.3753
81		88.1377	my fellow uh,	88.9250
83		89.3167	black students,	90.1928
85		90.7243	because	91.2741
87		91.7177	say a social status	93.0043
89		93.3402	uh,	93.6701
91		93.8277	requires this.	94.8026
93		95.0374	Th- um-	95.7228
95		96.3056	the social s-	96.9618
97		97.1121	the social code	98.1958
99		98.8409	is becoming now, where you-	100.3988
101		100.5087	because everything now is centered around	102.1253
103		102.3768	accepting the Negro as people,	104.0080
105		104.6275	the social code ha- wa- h- has required	106.6216
107		107.0931	that these people accept	108.1231
109		108.8893	um,	109.2008
111		110.0732	accept us socially. It's no- if not, you know,	112.3189
113		112.7148	we- when we come to their homes, it doesn't really matter as much.	115.5080
115		115.9355	But,	116.1664
117		117.2624	it seems to me a lot of people	118.5344
119		118.9193	give	119.2345
121		119.4874	big fake smiles because they're trying to	121.8321
123		122.3123	um,	122.6715
124	DCA_int_01	123.1906	Mm-hm.	123.6663
125	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	123.7015	uh,	124.1267
127		125.1994	uh, how can I say it?	126.1451
129		126.6253	They're trying	127.2998
131		127.6370	to impress. They're trying to impress	129.4392
133		129.7324	their neighbors with how liberal they really are. You know, twenty dollar this.	132.9215
135		133.2354	And their neighbors are doing it because they're trying to impress them, and so on and so forth. It's no real	137.5388
137		138.0103	big feeling of	139.0512
139		139.6415	these people aren't different.	141.0307
141		141.2140	It's just that these people are different, but we don't anybody to [know it, you know?]	144.5593
142	DCA_int_01	143.8620	[<laugh>]	145.1019
143	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	145.0244	That's-	145.5711
144	DCA_int_01	145.9046	Yeah. [/unintelligible/]	147.1656
145	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	146.2199	Unfortunately, that's the feeling I get,	148.0073
146		148.2969	but	148.4802
148		148.6965	honestly, the majority of the students at our school are real good about this. They-	151.5300
150		152.2324	Most of 'em-	152.9252
152		153.7463	Unfortunately, this is another thing.	155.4691
154		155.8050	They-	156.0909
156		156.8937	they work more	157.8284
158		158.2206	in uh,	158.7521
160		159.0894	helping the Negro students, and it's poor people's campaign, you know,	162.2148
162		162.4017	trying to get food for the poor people.	164.0952
164		164.4678	They do more work in it, then	165.9560
166		166.3776	the middle class Negroes of our school do	168.2727
168		168.5586	because they feel	169.3100
170		170.2141	embarrassed	170.9362
172		171.6876	about	172.1165
174		172.6847	what their ancestors have done,	174.1546
176		174.7067	what's going on now, and they want somehow,	176.6532
178		176.8328	someway to help.	177.6795
180		178.1304	Therefore, they do a lot more toward this-	179.8666
182		180.3651	work-	180.6400
184		180.9149	in-	181.0579
186		181.2302	That's where majority of the students at our school are.	183.3768
188		183.7141	We don't really	184.3336
190		185.2170	recognize as much as-	186.5952
192		186.9128	Say at a public school, you would recognize that person was white. We don't	189.9222
194		190.0982	do it half as much,	191.1539
196		191.5241	but there still are a small minority	192.9120
198		193.5498	who	193.8211
200		194.4039	they're-	194.6642
202		194.8291	I don't think there's anyone at our school who would be	196.5446
204		196.7852	out and out prejudice.	197.9362
205	DCA_int_01	198.1488	Mm-hm.	198.4311
206	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	198.5593	You'd- he'd cover it up some way, but there are a small minority	201.4062
208		202.0550	who are kind of sly about it.	203.2720
210		203.8841	And it's	204.4376
212		204.5989	fairly obvious	205.4456
214		205.8439	who they are. You can	206.7273
216		206.9729	almost [tell just] by looking at 'em.	208.4098
217	DCA_int_01	207.2069	[Mm.]	207.4762
218		208.6822	Mm-hm.	209.0458
220		209.5278	That's interesting.	210.4250
222		211.8761	Uh, s- change the subject again.	213.8078
224		214.1377	What do you do around Christmas time? Say from the day before through the- through Christmas day at /supper/. What all did you do?	220.3121
225	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	220.9311	Well now,	221.6898
227		222.1810	the big thing with me is buying presents. [<laugh> /??/]	224.5513
228	DCA_int_01	224.0675	[<laugh>]	224.8556
229	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	225.1488	Used to be, I would	225.9772
231		226.2741	waiting for 'em, but [now]	227.4691
232	DCA_int_01	227.2052	[<laugh>]	227.6451
233	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	228.2412	I don't know. I have a lot of little cousins.	229.9201
235		230.5322	And (laughing) my immediate family takes up a lot of money.	232.9648
237		233.4340	In most cases,	234.2881
239		234.5740	the week before Christmas, I'm earning money,	236.5241
241		236.9040	trying to get all the money together I've been saving all year.	239.4002
243		240.2177	And then a couple of days b-	241.3577
245		241.4883	m-	241.5983
247		241.7412	before Chris- I'm buying the presents, and other- And after that, we're	244.7507
249		245.1062	setting up the	245.8687
251		246.3768	decorations and everything.	247.6268
253		247.9787	We set those up	248.7998
255		249.8665	I say about two or three days before Christmas.	252.3687
257		252.7683	We get everything together.	253.8240
259		254.7550	And then we just kind of wait.	256.1393
260	DCA_int_01	256.3079	Mm-hm.	256.6745
262		257.2060	What do you do on Christmas day itself?	259.0388
263	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	259.7485	Christmas day,	260.5586
265		261.4714	we	261.8783
267		262.1129	open our presents to begin with.	263.7440
269		264.4025	Then we	264.8974
271		265.0733	visit everybody.	266.0080
273		266.3453	And you go- It becomes a bore after a little [while, you know you go] to every-	268.9250
274	DCA_int_01	267.8248	[<laugh>]	268.4480
275	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	269.1811	every little relative- some of you've never heard of before. [But /they/-]	272.0402
276	DCA_int_01	271.3878	[<laugh>]	271.9853
277	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	272.3078	you- my mother just seems to know where they live and everything.	275.0117
279		275.6825	And we	276.0454
281		276.2617	hit every relative's house, and show this and show that, and exchange this and exchange that.	280.2045
283		281.2089	And then occasionally,	282.1839
285		282.5748	when my uh,	283.2932
287		283.5535	grandmother was alive,	285.0167
289		285.4559	we'd go	285.9105
291		286.1597	to her house, either one of 'em.	287.4267
293		287.8336	One of- My father's mother,	289.2302
295		289.5564	lives in Baltimore.	290.3701
297		290.7477	We'd go there,	291.4208
299		292.1393	and	292.5058
301		293.0960	occasionally, every other year-	294.5622
303		295.0351	Excuse-	295.5373
305		296.2911	Yeah, I think it would be about every other year,	297.7720
307		298.1458	we go to	298.5491
309		298.6957	Tennessee	299.4105
311		299.7074	where my uh,	300.5235
313		300.8204	mother's mother [is,]	301.9237
314	DCA_int_01	301.7928	[Mm-hm.]	302.0980
315	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	302.6532	and	302.9684
317		303.8738	that- that would be the big family reunion. Everybody'd be there.	306.5667
319		307.1862	My mother has the biggest family.	308.6634
321		309.2852	Nine kids, /yeah/.	310.2493
322	DCA_int_01	310.5022	<laugh>	311.1657
323	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	311.2463	And everybody brings	312.5183
325		313.0388	their husband and	314.1994
327		314.4817	their wives and all that and everybody gets together. And	317.1429
329		318.0763	it's a lot of fun.	318.7764
330	DCA_int_01	319.0843	Yeah. [/inaudible/]	320.5909
331	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	319.4399	[Boring sometimes], but it's a lot of fun.	321.2067
332	DCA_int_01	322.1097	/Right/.	322.3804
334		323.0785	Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or might die?	326.4655
335	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	328.9274	I don't really think so. W- wait a minute.	330.9618
337		333.5813	I've had feelings (laughing),	334.9449
339		335.4838	where I feel like I would collapse. Not really	337.3079
341		337.8268	die.	338.1678
343		338.6202	On-	338.9757
345		339.6099	In the boy scouts a couple of times,	341.4413
347		341.9105	I've uh,	342.6217
349		343.3804	been on certain trips whereas	344.8357
351		345.3475	you climb mountains.	346.5132
352	DCA_int_01	346.7588	[Uh-huh.]	347.2720
353	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	346.9824	[And it's]-	347.3123
354		347.4552	kind of frightening sometimes, especially when it's the first time.	349.9250
356		350.8226	And it's- I think I was	351.7903
358		352.1275	twelve-	352.6517
360		352.8276	twelve- No, I was thirteen.	353.9273
362		354.9413	And, it just so happened, I had been on two hikes before,	357.5989
364		357.9604	you know, just regular hikes. They weren't anything spectacular.	360.3944
366		360.9259	Then all of a sudden,	361.6957
368		362.1246	we decided we were going	363.2815
370		363.6444	to climb uh,	364.6048
372		364.9237	this cliff,	365.5835
374		366.4266	just off of Chesapeake Bay,	367.7536
376		368.2251	and I can't remember the name of it now,	369.6986
378		370.2082	but it-	370.5381
380		371.3518	it was a good	371.8797
382		373.0073	Uh, I'd say it was about a hundred and fifty feet up.	375.4999
384		376.5506	And it wasn't really straight up, but it wa-	378.1049
385	DCA_int_01	378.2620	Yeah.	378.4998
386	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	378.8599	it looked like it me on my way up there.	380.7220
388		381.6078	So the leader led the way, and I was somewhere in the middle,	383.9134
390		385.3013	and somehow,	386.1518
392		386.7749	I don't know- every time I looked back down,	388.3145
394		389.0329	I got that feeling as if something was gonna happen.	391.2236
395	DCA_int_01	391.3995	Hm.	391.6121
396	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	392.1693	I don't know. I made it up though,	393.3056
398		393.9691	and	394.3137
400		394.4590	then another time,	395.3277
402		395.7969	when I was going out for my hiking merit badge,	397.7727
404		398.6804	we were hi-	399.1642
406		399.6334	we had a hike. We had to do a fifty mile hike	401.7668
407	DCA_int_01	401.8988	Hm.	402.3386
408	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	402.4669	in a day.	403.1194
410		403.5579	Before that I'd-	404.3387
412		405.2258	I just remember. I've been playing baseball and football and	408.1839
414		408.5015	little bit of everything	409.2749
416		409.4948	that day,	409.9970
418		410.6055	and	410.9428
420		411.1480	all of a sudden I remember that	412.3247
422		412.5140	in-	412.7925
424		413.2104	uh, in order for my	414.3907
426		414.9846	last requirement for	415.9376
428		416.1392	my merit badge,	417.0153
430		417.6261	I'd have to	418.3262
432		418.5608	be at	418.9347
434		419.5359	the uh,	419.9464
436		420.1517	camp. This is at	420.9325
438		421.0828	summer camp. I'd have to [be at] the camp w- with my leader-	423.9076
439	DCA_int_01	422.1591	[Mm-hm.]	422.4633
440	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	424.5417	my instructor rather,	425.5534
442		426.0249	by seven thirty.	426.9743
444		427.2529	Then we're going to have a night hike	428.4479
446		428.5212	of fifty miles.	429.5256
448		429.8262	You know, twenty five up and twenty five back.	431.8189
450		433.3584	On that trip-	434.0256
452		434.2382	That was one trip whereas-	435.4758
454		435.6701	we had to go over	436.5022
456		436.7588	a	437.0154
458		437.2939	rope bridge.	438.1480
460		438.2543	There were- one rope, and	439.6729
462		439.9758	two ropes hanging out.	440.9105
464		441.7096	And you have to walk across it,	442.9669
466		443.5594	and there was a stream running below it and it's	445.6378
468		446.0007	a good	446.4846
470		447.1297	seventy five foot drop. You know, rocky and everything.	449.5953
471	DCA_int_01	448.8585	/Jee/.	449.1408
472	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	450.0425	It was a little frightening.	450.8599
474		451.4501	I had an-	452.2162
476		452.4068	when- up- By the time I got to it, I was dead tired. [That was one] time I thought	455.9281
477	DCA_int_01	454.8614	[<laugh>]	455.2280
478	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	456.2690	I might not make it.	457.1524
479	DCA_int_01	457.2697	<laugh>	457.5116
480	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	457.9575	But I did it because everybody else was doing it,	459.6950
481	DCA_int_01	459.8196	Yeah.	460.0762
482	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	460.1678	and, who wants to be the only, you know, /unintelligible/ so I followed.	463.2420
484	DCA_int_01	465.0417	Sometimes people say whatever's going to happen is going to happen, [so why worry] -	469.2670
485	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	467.8710	[Yeah. I- I don't really] worry about it	469.6765
486		469.9365	as much s-	470.6060
488		470.7733	When- when you're real tired though,	472.2762
490		472.6852	/they say it's/ run through your mind real quick (laughing).	474.8077
492		475.2884	I don't really worry about	476.1930
494		476.3746	what's going to happen. I figure if I'm gonna go,	478.2402
496		478.9097	I'll go.	479.4510
497	DCA_int_01	479.6378	Mm.	479.8878
499		480.9965	Do you kind of agree with that statement?	482.6377
500	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	483.7666	Yes, very much so. I- I don't really feel as if-	486.3236
502		487.1564	For instance,	488.0004
504		488.4527	if I was drafted,	489.6207
506		491.0986	I'd-	491.4334
508		492.1095	really I wouldn't want to go because	493.8260
510		494.5204	I don't know. I don't mind being drafted, but um-	496.4287
512		496.5356	I'd	496.8312
514		497.0413	disagree with the war to begin with	498.7186
515	DCA_int_01	498.7684	Mm-hm.	499.1922
516	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	499.5448	like most people my age do, but a lot of people	502.0905
518		502.4538	seemingly don't /so we're there/.	504.0812
520		504.4908	But,	504.7258
522		505.0428	if I were drafted,	505.9794
524		507.2716	I'd	507.5244
526		508.4325	uh,	508.8670
528		509.1733	if- a- and- if I had a strong enough feeling	511.3486
530		511.8401	against being drafted,	513.0188
532		513.9376	I'd rather	514.6641
534		516.6187	um,	517.0318
536		518.7234	I don't know. I don't really	519.7419
538		519.9449	care about dying,	520.9728
540		521.5825	but	521.8567
542		522.1772	if I had a strong enough feeling against the draft,	523.9507
544		524.3923	instead of going over and being hypocritical about the thing,	526.9167
546		527.4224	and fighting because my sergeant says so	529.4985
548		530.2179	I'd probably just go into jail.	531.5849
550		532.1048	Which, I don't know which one I'd do now.	533.6326
551	DCA_int_01	533.7002	<laugh>	534.1917
552	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	534.2237	But I'm not really	535.0001
554		535.3486	afraid of dying. I figure I'll die anyway,	537.5530
555	DCA_int_01	537.6847	Mm.	537.8806
556	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	538.0266	and	538.2759
558		539.2303	I-	539.5401
560		539.7787	I'm fairly religious. I'm not, you know, extremely religious,	542.3708
562		542.9441	because, I don't know. I do a lot weird things I'm not [supposed] to be doing.	545.7213
563	DCA_int_01	544.8916	[<laugh>]	545.3047
564	DCA_se3_ag1_m_02	546.2555	But I do believe in God and if-	547.6515
566		548.6308	if God wants me to go, I figure I'll go when my time comes.	551.9957