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1DCA_int_030.5403/RD-NAME-1/ what kind of games did you play when you were a child?3.1216
2DCA_se3_ag2_f_013.6938Hopscotch,4.6702
4 5.1037baseball,5.8560 
6 8.6333d- um,9.4613 
8 12.2703pick up sticks.13.1547 
9DCA_int_0313.3000How do you play pick up sticks?14.5320
10DCA_se3_ag2_f_0115.7142<ts>15.7962
12 18.2595Well sticks are thrown down19.9569 
14 20.3885on the ground,21.2190 
15DCA_int_0321.5992Mm-hm.22.0634
16DCA_se3_ag2_f_0123.5093in such a way24.5418
18 25.6223that they're26.2356 
20 26.6350th-26.7471 
22 28.5839uh,29.5253 
24 29.7165mixed30.3087 
25DCA_int_0330.5891[Mm-hm.]30.9373
26DCA_se3_ag2_f_0130.7772[or] jumbled.31.5896
27DCA_int_0331.7857Mm-hm.32.1604
28DCA_se3_ag2_f_0132.3500And you try to33.4385
30 34.0720pick up the stick35.2133 
32 36.8853in such a way that you don't38.1298 
34 38.7824um, bother the others.40.2751 
35DCA_int_0340.3884Mm-hm.40.7365
37 41.2448Mm-hm.41.6994 
39 42.1612Um,42.5734 
41 42.6734what i- what other um,44.2054 
43 44.3924games did you mention before?45.7650 
45 46.4625Are there any that you have uh, teams?48.4434 
47 48.8328You play with teams?49.8635 
48DCA_se3_ag2_f_0150.1214Baseball.50.7537
49DCA_int_0350.7937Oh baseball. Explain how baseball is played.53.3029
51 55.7815<laugh> [Your version back] in the old days okay?58.7269 
52DCA_se3_ag2_f_0156.1177[<laugh>]57.3463
53 59.4333<ts>59.5333
55 60.5089Um,61.1892 
57 62.2417a ball is thrown63.5463 
59 64.0078to um,65.2838 
61 66.4452the66.8694 
63 68.0499ca- Let's see.68.7342 
65 69.5466The catcher.70.1389 
66DCA_int_0370.5393Mm-hm.71.0754
67DCA_se3_ag2_f_0172.0280Um,72.6843
69 73.2806<ts>73.3146 
71 73.9049the person74.5132 
73 74.7696um,75.1898 
75 75.2818in front of the76.0902 
77 77.7670base78.4233 
79 78.9188tries to hit the ball.80.4833 
80DCA_int_0380.6877Mm-hm.81.1199
81DCA_se3_ag2_f_0182.1603When the ball is hit83.4654
83 83.5295this is known as a84.9770 
85 85.7213home run?86.3056 
86DCA_int_0386.5937Mm-hm.87.0059
87DCA_se3_ag2_f_0187.8663And you run88.6027
89 88.8668from base to base.90.2274 
90DCA_int_0390.3247Uh-huh.90.7369
92 91.0890Well every time you hit the ball though it's not gonna be a home run is it?93.7145 
93DCA_se3_ag2_f_0194.0547No.94.5829
94DCA_int_0394.7150Okay.95.1312
96 95.8438So.96.1960 
98 97.8333<laugh>98.2421 
99DCA_se3_ag2_f_0198.9283<ts>98.9783
101 99.5535Um,100.1098 
103 101.3956it's the job of the102.8285 
105 103.3167catcher103.9210 
107 105.5058to105.9620 
109 106.7876catch the ball while the person is running.108.8845 
110DCA_int_03109.0938Mm-hm.109.5621
111DCA_se3_ag2_f_01111.1028And if they catch it112.2633
113 112.7035the person is automatically out.114.3203 
114DCA_int_03114.6767Mm-hm.115.0209
115DCA_se3_ag2_f_01116.1974[I-]116.5055
116DCA_int_03116.3575[Did you-] did you ever uh, jump rope when you were a child?119.1840
117DCA_se3_ag2_f_01119.6132<ts>119.6592
119 119.7643I tried to.120.5618 
120DCA_int_03120.6059Tried to? What kind of jump rope games did you play?123.0430
121DCA_se3_ag2_f_01129.3545Mm.129.6261
123 131.2055Doctor doctor.132.2780 
124DCA_int_03132.6421Oh.132.9102
126 133.2464Yeah that's a good thing. Well it- So give me some of the rhymes and things that you- you know, that you did while you were jumping rope.139.0254 
128 139.4889Did you remember any of those?140.5849 
129DCA_se3_ag2_f_01145.1700Doctor doctor,146.4460
131 149.1210who will I marry, doctor, lawyer, Indian chief.152.0743 
132DCA_int_03152.2658Uh-huh.152.7078
134 154.2747You remember an- another one?155.5281 
136 161.3186Like uh, did you ever- uh, did you ever have some that you did while you were playing double dutch for instance?165.8739 
137DCA_se3_ag2_f_01174.5071One, two, three, four,176.1537
139 176.7825here we go.177.5601 
140DCA_int_03177.8643[<laugh>]179.4170
141DCA_se3_ag2_f_01177.9803[<laugh>]178.7167
142DCA_int_03180.0844Oh you making 'em up now. [<laugh>]181.7731
143DCA_se3_ag2_f_01181.2329[<laugh>]182.3614
144DCA_int_03182.6788Did you ever play hide and seek?184.0274
145DCA_se3_ag2_f_01184.6329[Yes.]185.1131
146DCA_int_03184.9130[Okay] explain how- how hide and seek is played.187.4062
147DCA_se3_ag2_f_01188.5510<ts>188.6470
149 189.8454Um,190.3841 
151 192.5460the kids start out together.194.2588 
153 195.8648One person is standing at a tree,198.2048 
155 199.5027um,200.0310 
157 200.1430you count-200.7433 
159 200.9714He has his face202.3761 
161 202.5774turned away from the other [kids.]204.4324 
162DCA_int_03204.3083[Mm-hm.]204.7737
163DCA_se3_ag2_f_01205.1847While he's counting, the others run and [hide.]207.9220
164DCA_int_03207.7671[Mm-hm.]208.2045
165DCA_se3_ag2_f_01209.3438When he turns around he210.6845
167 210.7605tries to find the other kids.212.3593 
168DCA_int_03213.8644Mm-hm.214.2685
170 215.2130Is there something he says you know to-217.2333 
172 217.4774/Uh/217.8742 
174 218.6379while the other kids are hiding?220.0506 
175DCA_se3_ag2_f_01221.5254He just counts.222.5619
176DCA_int_03222.6299Mm-hm.222.9941
177DCA_se3_ag2_f_01223.8926Counts from one to ten.225.1492
178DCA_int_03225.1652Uh-huh.225.6134
179DCA_se3_ag2_f_01225.9098And within this time limit um,227.8427
181 228.3470the kids are supposed to hide.230.2528 
182DCA_int_03230.2771Mm-hm.230.6172
184 230.9774Uh do you-231.7778 
186 232.0939/?/ how do you uh, pick which one's gonna be it?234.9284 
188 235.2046You know from235.9379 
190 236.4251Uh236.6400 
192 236.9620/thoughts and things/237.8378 
193DCA_se3_ag2_f_01238.6384You take turns.239.8110
194DCA_int_03240.9758Well how do you start with the first one? How do you know which one of the group is gonna be the first?244.7747
196 245.8103How do you pick 'em?246.4986 
198 249.6955Do you remember how you used to do that?251.0241 
199DCA_se3_ag2_f_01251.9205No I don't.252.7008
200DCA_int_03253.6456You just uh, wh- whoever said one first w- what was the first one [/out of- was it/]259.4036
201DCA_se3_ag2_f_01258.2991[Yeah I suppose that's] how it went.259.8158
202DCA_int_03260.6161Um,261.0403
204 262.3311did you ever play um,264.1911 
206 264.9415Simon Says?265.8388 
207DCA_se3_ag2_f_01267.1785No.267.6519
208DCA_int_03267.6960[/Did you/]268.1382
209DCA_se3_ag2_f_01267.9001[Never] played [that.]268.7601
210DCA_int_03268.4508Never?268.9372
211 269.4189Can you remember any of those games like that like mother may I or-272.7362
212DCA_se3_ag2_f_01273.6830[Yes.]274.2353
213DCA_int_03274.1112[Mm-hm] how- how did you play mother may I?276.3162
214DCA_se3_ag2_f_01277.4140Um,278.2566
216 280.1675if it's the same game that I have in mind it's283.0568 
218 283.7636something similar to um, red light.286.8170 
220 287.9086And um,288.9792 
222 289.6155the person290.3879 
224 291.6096is ask a question.292.9583 
225DCA_int_03293.5105Mm-hm.293.9547
226DCA_se3_ag2_f_01294.3149And um,295.1793
228 296.2750<ts>296.3591 
230 297.8639the one who is the leader299.3606 
232 300.0769you um,300.8813 
234 301.4268ask the person302.3472 
236 303.0247is it alright for you to answer the question.305.0954 
237DCA_int_03305.6259Mm-hm.306.0232
238DCA_se3_ag2_f_01306.1775And you say,306.7988
240 307.2900mother may I.308.2380 
241DCA_int_03308.4545Mm-hm.308.9132
242DCA_se3_ag2_f_01309.0348And if the person says you can,310.7796
244 310.8809you go uh, ahead with your answer.312.7457 
245DCA_int_03312.8098Mm-hm.313.2472
246DCA_se3_ag2_f_01314.0996If not you're314.9240
248 314.9990supposed to just keep quiet.316.5019 
249DCA_int_03316.5979Mm-hm.317.0582
251 318.2227Um,318.6389 
253 320.3597did you320.8799 
255 321.3715ever- You know uh, when I was trying to get you to- to say your rhymes,325.3216 
257 325.6378sometimes when you know kids will put their feet in, they go around like this you know and say something like, eenie meenie miney moe you know to pick333.0525 
259 333.7208which one is gonna be it [or]335.5109 
260DCA_se3_ag2_f_01335.3188[Mm-hm.]335.7870
261DCA_int_03335.6910[something] like that. Do you remember any of those?337.7790
262DCA_se3_ag2_f_01341.3018No.341.7725
263DCA_int_03341.8873None? Okay.342.8197
265 343.3680Um,343.7682 
267 346.2345/?/ Did you ever uh, watch TV very much?349.0681 
268DCA_se3_ag2_f_01349.7084[Yes.]350.3137
269DCA_int_03349.9325[/as a child?/] What kind of- what kind of TV shows do you watch?352.7298
270DCA_se3_ag2_f_01352.7768<ts>352.8509
272 353.5194Well one of my favorite ones was uh, Hopalong [Cassidy.]357.0567 
273DCA_int_03356.8582[Oh] yeah.357.4795
274 358.6913Mm-hm.359.1339
275DCA_se3_ag2_f_01359.5557And uh, The Cisco Kid.361.5157
276DCA_int_03361.6526Mm-hm.362.0288
277DCA_se3_ag2_f_01362.2212And of course The Three Stooges.363.9225
278DCA_int_03364.4702Mm-hm.364.9156
280 366.0863Well, tell me- Can you remember any of those- any of The Three Stooges? Any of those shows?370.7405 
282 371.2647Remember what they were about?372.3287 
283DCA_se3_ag2_f_01373.2697<ts>373.3362
285 374.2064Well um,375.2508 
287 376.8269The Three Stooges were378.1756 
289 378.5557clowns.379.5743 
290DCA_int_03379.8585Mm-hm.380.3707
291DCA_se3_ag2_f_01381.0950Um,381.8665
293 383.6143I believe it was Moe, he was always386.1555 
295 387.2514um,387.7796 
297 390.4011the dunce of the group.391.5216 
299 391.7898And they were392.3260 
301 393.1024trying to play393.9027 
303 394.0308pranks on him and it395.2045 
304DCA_int_03395.2156[Mm-hm.]395.6290
305DCA_se3_ag2_f_01395.4046[just] seemed like this poor fella397.0854
306 397.4628never quite made [it.]398.6513
307DCA_int_03398.5433[Mm-hm. <laugh>]399.2366
308DCA_se3_ag2_f_01399.0275[<laugh>]400.0661
309 402.0271Um,402.5557
311 407.4181I remember408.1945 
313 409.4631one particular410.5556 
315 410.8231incident um,412.0529 
317 412.6256<ts>412.6924 
319 412.7843they was supposed visit this414.3495 
321 414.4950old house415.4939 
323 415.9515and um,416.7372 
325 417.8642the house was supposed to be haunted.419.6307 
326DCA_int_03419.9112Mm-hm.420.2960
327DCA_se3_ag2_f_01420.7124So,421.0777
329 421.8364the other two422.7164 
331 422.9215Stooges um,424.3504 
333 425.0510they didn't wanna go in this house at first,427.0288 
335 427.5051so they sent old Moe again.429.2368 
337 430.0997So when he gets in there431.4087 
339 431.7561he's frightened by a ghost and433.5162 
341 433.9420finally he runs out435.1817 
343 436.0141and they436.4589 
345 436.5693try all kinds of things, try to get him to go back in the house.439.3640 
346DCA_int_03439.4271[Mm.]439.7947
347DCA_se3_ag2_f_01439.4996[Cause they] don't wanna go.440.5303
348DCA_int_03441.3656Mm-hm.441.7322
350 442.8807Okay.443.3633 
352 443.5179Uh- <laugh>444.1424 
354 445.6117Uh, do you watch much television now?447.6714 
356 448.5196Between studies?449.3902 
357DCA_se3_ag2_f_01450.0636<ts>450.1725
359 450.2671[Yes, I try] to.451.4878 
360DCA_int_03450.6033[/inaudible/]451.1793
361 451.5842Uh-huh well what are some of your favorite shows?453.4705
362DCA_se3_ag2_f_01454.2121<ts>454.2704
364 454.7358Well, I like the stories that come on.456.9558 
365DCA_int_03457.0416Oh you [/inaudible/ <laugh>]458.8576
366DCA_se3_ag2_f_01457.6308[The soapbox. <laugh>]458.6913
367 459.1235Soapbox [opera type thing.]460.9123
368DCA_int_03459.9839[Uh-huh.Which-]460.7403
369 461.1204which ones?461.7847
370DCA_se3_ag2_f_01462.2321<ts>462.3101
372 462.8442Well one of my favorite ones is464.7833 
374 464.8535As the World Turns466.2662 
375DCA_int_03466.3163[Mm-hm.]466.6805
376DCA_se3_ag2_f_01466.4564[and] um,467.5497
377 468.8818<ts>469.0219
379 471.1188um,471.7362 
381 471.9072what was the other?472.8476 
382DCA_int_03474.6217[Mm.]474.7718
383DCA_se3_ag2_f_01474.6638[Search] for Tomorrow.475.8822
384DCA_int_03475.8962Mm-hm.476.2624
385DCA_se3_ag2_f_01476.7500<ts>476.8011
387 477.3023Guiding Light um,478.9941 
389 481.0821As the World Turn- uh, As the World Turns.483.5566 
390DCA_int_03483.5326Uh-huh you said that one. D- do you watch Another World?486.0958
391DCA_se3_ag2_f_01486.5240Yes [that's it, Another World.]488.5227
392DCA_int_03487.2215[Mm-hm. That's the one I want] you to tell me, what's happening in that now? <laugh>490.6831
393DCA_se3_ag2_f_01491.8289Um,492.5292
395 493.1015the last time I saw it494.6982 
397 495.4579Bill had been in an accident497.2147 
398DCA_int_03497.4508Mm-hm.497.9068
399DCA_se3_ag2_f_01498.4673And499.0116
401 499.1356he had had an operation,500.6283 
403 502.0914and he was in a-502.8037 
405 502.9278he was in a coma.504.0723 
407 505.8885And they were trying to see when he would come out of this coma.508.6938 
408DCA_int_03508.8019Mm-hm.509.1660
409DCA_se3_ag2_f_01509.1820That's the last time I [saw it.]510.3266
410DCA_int_03510.1585[Mm-hm.]510.5772
411DCA_se3_ag2_f_01510.6208I don't know what's happened since then.512.2936
412DCA_int_03512.3136Mm-hm. What else was going on? Um,514.3829
414 514.9591they usually have several stories going on all at [once.]517.2002 
415DCA_se3_ag2_f_01515.4088<ts>515.4639
417 517.0573[Um,]517.7573 
418 519.7887<ts> I can't think of the girl's name, you know the one that's married to the young doctor.523.5196
419DCA_int_03525.7695Um,526.1377
421 528.2252Oh.528.4653 
422DCA_se3_ag2_f_01528.4813[She's very] spoiled.529.9260
423DCA_int_03528.5293[/inaudible/]529.1416
424 530.0780Oh yes, uh-huh.530.9436
425DCA_se3_ag2_f_01531.1287<ts>531.1887
427 531.8671Well she is still533.1836 
429 533.5518trying to talk her husband int-535.3698 
431 535.4539trying to536.0546 
433 536.1867find out if he can accept his- this residency at Boston.539.5051 
434DCA_int_03539.6732Mm-hm.540.1519
435DCA_se3_ag2_f_01540.7677<ts>540.8257
437 541.5913Which is kind of stupid because he can't accept it now.544.3883 
439 544.9811<ts>545.0307 
441 545.6704And of course she's also um,547.6073 
443 548.6724trying to interfere549.8510 
445 550.6053with um,551.3937 
447 551.5935her sister-in-law.552.5019 
449 553.3123And um, this relationship- I can't remember the guy's name but um,556.9917 
451 557.4583he's rather wealthy and he's a very young guy.559.6874 
453 560.3406<ts>560.3887 
455 560.8448She's trying to get in that.562.0354 
457 563.4830And of course the mother is very disgusted565.6900 
458DCA_int_03565.7220Yeah.566.0022
459DCA_se3_ag2_f_01565.9441with all of it.566.7481
460DCA_int_03567.3830Mm-hm.567.8382
461DCA_se3_ag2_f_01568.3144But she's trying to be quiet.569.6451
463 569.9278She's trying not to interfere.571.2705 
464DCA_int_03571.6401Mm-hm.572.1264
466 572.7807Well what about Bill's mother?573.9852 
467DCA_se3_ag2_f_01574.6110<ts>574.6811
469 574.8913They haven- the last time I saw it they didn't show her.577.4405 
470DCA_int_03577.4630Mm-hm.577.9603
472 578.8699Okay, um,580.0619 
474 580.3578do you ever h- watch any night time shows?582.5148 
475DCA_se3_ag2_f_01584.2239<ts>584.3170
477 585.0733Well,585.4915 
479 585.6096if-585.9920 
481 586.3281When I get a chance to I usually watch The Tonight Show.589.5286 
482DCA_int_03590.0019Mm-hm.590.4259
484 591.1695Well, can't get you to tell much of an episode of that but593.9619 
486 594.2482do you ever watch some of the movies that come on television?596.5372 
487DCA_se3_ag2_f_01597.4090Um, when I get a chance [to.]598.9857
488DCA_int_03598.8457[Mm-hm.]599.1938
489 599.5500Do you have a particular one that stands out in your mind?601.9363
490DCA_se3_ag2_f_01605.1602Mm.605.5562
491DCA_int_03606.6369Or maybe a movie you've seen recently.608.4169
493 610.0536/inaudible/610.8620 
494DCA_se3_ag2_f_01610.3057<ts>610.3623
495 611.1611Um,611.8705
497 612.5701the last movie I saw614.0517 
499 614.1598uh, was /Finigan's/ Rainbow.616.0917 
500DCA_int_03616.2807Mm-hm.616.7620
501DCA_se3_ag2_f_01617.7534And this had um,619.0059
503 620.2000<ts>620.2670 
505 620.4631Fred Astaire and621.6077 
507 621.7196Petula Clark.622.7100 
508DCA_int_03622.7180Mm-hm.623.1072
509DCA_se3_ag2_f_01624.8440And um-626.0886
511 627.0096<ts>627.0917 
513 627.2598Well the funniest thing I remember seeing in the whole movie630.0251 
515 630.8738was-631.3111 
517 631.8222there was this old632.9587 
519 633.7671Southern634.4915 
521 634.9858congressman.635.7742 
523 637.4753And he had638.1476 
525 638.3316certain views about Negroes.640.2405 
526DCA_int_03640.4859Mm.640.7740
527DCA_se3_ag2_f_01641.8945And um,642.9630
529 643.5075<ts>643.5615 
531 643.9937they were talking one day and she was right over the pot of gold.647.6804 
533 648.5031And I don't know if you know the story about the leprechaun651.3884 
535 652.0000and when you're over the pot of gold but you're supposed to get your wish.655.5777 
537 656.2482<ts>656.3042 
539 656.7736So she said, I just wish you could turn black,659.1572 
541 659.7495so you could see what it's like to be black.661.8537 
542DCA_int_03662.3083[Oh wow.] <laugh>663.2848
543DCA_se3_ag2_f_01662.3123[You know.]662.7105
544 663.8655So this old senator turns black.665.9945
546 666.5707<ts>666.6248 
548 667.4456So uh,668.3921 
550 668.5066he was so upset, he just runs in the woods and everybody's looking for him.672.8089 
552 673.4802<ts>673.5402 
554 673.9105So finally he meets up with these um,676.1895 
556 676.2716three colored guys who are singers.678.1089 
557DCA_int_03678.1849Mm-hm.678.6236
558DCA_se3_ag2_f_01679.1078So he joins with them and they go from place to place singing.682.6776
560 683.7721So finally they come back to this little village,685.9351 
562 686.7760and he says um,688.2840 
564 688.9687I can see the issue now from both sides.691.6711 
566 692.3772You know.692.6993 
567DCA_int_03692.9094Mm-hm.693.3236
568DCA_se3_ag2_f_01694.0599So uh, finally near the end of the picture um,697.4760
570 697.7946the old guy is698.8551 
572 698.9416turned back699.4598 
574 699.6059into a white man.700.5803 
575DCA_int_03700.6056[Mm-hm.]700.9767
576DCA_se3_ag2_f_01700.9097But I thought it was very funny because uh,703.0737
577 703.7747I thought about Wallace.705.1558
578DCA_int_03705.4300Yes.706.0402
579DCA_se3_ag2_f_01706.5445And I was wondering what it would be like for him [to be]709.1121
580DCA_int_03708.7900[Mm-hm.]709.3160
581DCA_se3_ag2_f_01709.2454black [you know for a while] since he has so many views.712.0044
582DCA_int_03709.6656[Mm-hm.]710.3923
584 711.9584That's right.712.6264 
585 713.1159Well I d- I didn't know that movie was that interesting. <laugh>715.7226
586DCA_se3_ag2_f_01715.7937<laugh>716.5541
587DCA_int_03716.6323That is pretty good.717.5185
588DCA_se3_ag2_f_01717.5687It's pretty funny.718.3891
589DCA_int_03718.4371Uh-huh.718.9293
591 719.7060Um,720.1342 
593 721.3107did you ever have a pet when you were723.0587 
595 724.1132/home?/724.4664 
596DCA_se3_ag2_f_01724.7625<ts>724.8425
598 725.0346I [had-]725.5088 
599DCA_int_03725.2527[Do you] have one now?726.1832
600DCA_se3_ag2_f_01726.6286I had a dog but that was for a very728.9487
602 729.4646short729.8048 
604 730.1849period of time and then I had a goldfish [once.]732.8834 
605DCA_int_03732.7378[Mm-hm.]733.1400
606 733.4294Tell me about your dog, how did you get him and what was his name?736.0266
607DCA_se3_ag2_f_01735.5261<ts>735.5711
608 736.0778Well he was given to me by a friend of my father's who I call Uncle Tommy.740.4313
609DCA_int_03740.6700Ha!741.0124
610DCA_se3_ag2_f_01741.6624And uh,742.7269
612 744.2260the main thing I remember about this little dog is that he was white and real fluffy.748.7441 
613DCA_int_03748.8565Mm-hm.749.2578
614DCA_se3_ag2_f_01749.6941<ts>749.7551
616 750.6050And um,751.7936 
618 752.4002I think I must have had him about two weeks.754.9027 
620 755.8741And then suddenly he was gone, well757.6830 
622 758.6114at the time my parents told me760.5043 
624 760.7736uh, that he got sick and died.762.7265 
626 762.9478[You know.]763.2840 
627DCA_int_03763.0078[Mm.]763.5052
628DCA_se3_ag2_f_01763.7722But later on I found out he made so much racket766.6335
630 767.0451and ruckus you know,768.1576 
632 768.7419and the neighborhood we were living in it was disturbing the neighbors so772.1696 
634 772.2859my parents gave him away.773.7386 
635DCA_int_03774.1948Oh.774.8711
637 775.1392They didn't even ask [you?]776.2770 
638DCA_se3_ag2_f_01775.9156[No.]776.5891
639DCA_int_03776.5971How did you feel about that?777.7977
640DCA_se3_ag2_f_01778.0948<ts>778.1989
642 778.4900Well I didn't find out until I was much older you know, I believed them782.1347 
644 782.7322before when they told me you know that he had died.784.7602 
645DCA_int_03784.9495[Mm-hm.]785.6499
646DCA_se3_ag2_f_01784.9535[And so it- it] made me sad.786.5983
647 787.3026You know I cried.788.1011
648DCA_int_03788.5934Mm-hm.789.1120
650 789.9472Oh that was a sad [story. <laugh>]792.2643 
651DCA_se3_ag2_f_01791.0597[<laugh>]791.4759
652 792.4564<laugh>793.0806
653DCA_int_03793.8250Okay um,794.7210
655 795.9084now we're gonna talk about school /and things./798.3455 
657 798.6589Not Howard but799.5032 
659 799.8954back in the old days when you were at- What uh, elementary school did you [go to?]802.9769 
660DCA_se3_ag2_f_01801.1259<ts>801.1794
662 802.1363<ts>802.1899 
664 802.6246[Well I] I went to two.803.8851 
665 804.9881<ts>805.0581
667 805.1462From the first806.1627 
669 806.7294to the fifth grade I went to a school which is called Mott Elementary810.5981 
671 810.8242which is on [Fourth Street.]812.0668 
672DCA_int_03811.5445[Oh yeah.]812.3072
673 812.5807Mm-hm.813.0329
674DCA_se3_ag2_f_01813.3105<ts>813.3656
676 813.8213And then814.5041 
678 814.6061in the815.2674 
680 815.4065sixth grade I transferred to Brightwood Elementary School,818.5889 
681DCA_int_03818.7536Mm-hm.819.2202
682DCA_se3_ag2_f_01819.9815which is on uh, Nicholson Street.821.8956
684 822.5884I belie- I believe it's Nicholson [Street.]824.2292 
685DCA_int_03823.9130[Mm-hm.]824.4333
686 826.3919Well what uh,827.1927
688 827.3107what was school like back in those days?829.2576 
689DCA_se3_ag2_f_01831.2915<ts>831.3495
691 832.0458Well,832.5421 
693 833.2149when I went to Mott834.2693 
695 834.3554I didn't live in that835.5116 
697 835.9438area and so837.0743 
699 837.5846it was kind of hard for me839.0645 
701 839.5512to make friends with the kids841.0679 
703 841.2184because I was more or less an outsider.843.5135 
704DCA_int_03844.3115Why were you an outsider?845.2960
705DCA_se3_ag2_f_01845.8142Well the kids were um,847.2221
707 848.1350rough848.5572 
709 848.6312you know used to fighting and uh,850.7934 
711 852.8577uh, fussing with one another and I- I hadn't been used to this, I was rather timid you know.858.0302 
713 858.2344One of these little lady [type things.]859.9552 
714DCA_int_03859.2949[Mm-hm.]859.8692
715DCA_se3_ag2_f_01860.9637And uh, after I had been there for a while I had to learn to fight and take care of myself, and after I got used to this you know,868.6163
717 868.8304things were [alright.]869.6051 
718DCA_int_03869.4867[Mm-hm.]869.9947
719DCA_se3_ag2_f_01871.2300And at Brightwood um,872.9580
723 873.5823this was a different type of thing entirely.875.6585   
725 876.8035Uh,877.3137 
727 877.4802the kids came from a different type of879.8746 
729 880.2560home life.881.1604 
731 881.7091They were used to more things and-883.1978 
732DCA_int_03883.6225Was this a better section of town [/inaudible/]885.4153
733DCA_se3_ag2_f_01885.0156[Yes] it was in a better section of town.887.0505
734DCA_int_03887.0770Mm-hm.887.5852
735DCA_se3_ag2_f_01888.0354But um,888.8678
737 889.4905I think889.9308 
739 890.4070both schools had their points you know, I think I needed Mott893.6454 
741 894.3577to really um,895.5043 
743 895.7808show me both sides [you know because]897.6657 
744DCA_int_03896.9834[Mm-hm.]897.5677
745DCA_se3_ag2_f_01898.0964I think I was too much of a little lady really.900.7046
747 901.0202<laugh>901.2903 
748DCA_int_03901.9411Well I think that that's- that's a pretty good point.904.1481
750 904.7508What did you do uh,906.0428 
752 906.3848say after907.4714 
754 907.6451school hours you know three o'clock, what was your-910.2993 
756 910.6715what did you do after /inaudible/911.8148 
757DCA_se3_ag2_f_01911.3215<ts>911.4116
759 911.7547Well when I went to913.0735 
760 913.1495Mott,913.5947
762 913.7648it was right up the street from Howard and916.2357 
764 916.7589my- since my father worked at Howard I would just go up and stay with him.920.8084 
765DCA_int_03921.0158Mm-hm.921.4745
766DCA_se3_ag2_f_01921.8052<ts>921.8572
768 922.5776And um,923.5060 
770 925.4271I've always926.3715 
772 927.0518been sort of um,928.2804 
774 930.2695<ts>930.3456 
776 930.7528mischievous.931.5092 
778 932.8443And so I would stop the students you know on my way up the hill and936.7461 
780 937.0582my father had told me to mind my own business and come directly to his office.941.7976 
781DCA_int_03941.9118Mm-hm.942.3921
782DCA_se3_ag2_f_01942.5922And there was one particular incident that I remember um-946.0121
784 947.0095To get to my father's office,948.6973 
786 949.3676you had to go past the flag pole.951.5386 
788 952.7629and these students were c-953.7793 
790 954.1280all circled around the flag pole, talking you know.956.8717 
792 957.6745And suddenly this guy said, oh damn.959.8355 
794 960.4783You know.960.7324 
795DCA_int_03960.9185Mm-hm.961.3105
796DCA_se3_ag2_f_01960.9925So I jumped in between them you know and said, you don't say things like that [underneath the flag.]965.8617
797DCA_int_03964.7412[<laugh>]965.5956
798DCA_se3_ag2_f_01967.8675You know and one thing led to another and the crowd grew971.0830
800 971.4837and grew, you know everybody was out there and this one guy said, that's right little girl you tell 'em, [you know.]976.3636 
801DCA_int_03975.8558[<laugh>]976.7623
802DCA_se3_ag2_f_01976.8243And this is all I needed, you know.978.5936
804 979.3184So finally uh, someone in the crowd recognized who I was they went over to get my father.984.7466 
806 985.4934And uh, he986.5439 
808 986.7359came to get me, he987.8449 
810 988.0810picked me up like a989.0199 
812 989.6322piece of luggage you know [and just]991.2269 
813DCA_int_03990.8512[Mm-hm.]991.3575
814DCA_se3_ag2_f_01991.3595carried me away, he was so disgusted.993.2243
816 994.5294And uh,995.3298 
818 995.4143finally995.9665 
820 996.3167we got to his office you know he was real quiet998.9311 
822 999.1869for a long time.1000.2254 
824 1001.0383I didn't know what to expect.1002.2548 
826 1002.3489It frightened me to death and then finally he just broke out in a laugh, you [know.]1005.7009 
827DCA_int_031005.5948[Mm-hm.]1006.0068
828 1007.7087Well that's pretty [good /?/]1009.0954
829DCA_se3_ag2_f_011008.3830[<laugh>]1009.3355
830DCA_int_031010.6866My goodness.1011.4759
832 1012.0556Um,1012.4933 
834 1012.9735did you ever have a teacher that hollered-1014.6423 
836 1015.2586hollered a lot at the kids?1016.5632 
837DCA_se3_ag2_f_011016.5726Yes um,1018.3094
839 1018.7416this was at Mott.1019.6500 
841 1019.8101I had a teacher1020.8296 
843 1021.2369by the name of Miss /RD-NAME-1/.1022.8611 
845 1024.8207And she was a-1025.9514 
847 1026.7868a giant for a woman to me because she was about1029.2621 
849 1029.3862six feet something, and she was huge you know.1031.8873 
851 1032.6009And1032.9931 
853 1033.0992since both of my parents are small people I h-1036.0246 
855 1036.1779I had really1036.9739 
857 1037.1183never seen anyone so big.1039.0796 
858DCA_int_031039.1214Mm-hm.1039.6056
859DCA_se3_ag2_f_011039.7737And it frightened me you know and she'd yell at the kids,1042.2009
861 1042.3090children! You [know.]1043.5370 
862DCA_int_031043.3196[Mm-hm.]1043.9319
863DCA_se3_ag2_f_011044.5162And you know I'd just sort of shake-1045.8269
865 1045.9229sit there and sort of shake [you know.]1047.7078 
866DCA_int_031047.2248[Mm-hm.]1047.7794
867DCA_se3_ag2_f_011048.8735So I- I never will forget her.1050.5775
868DCA_int_031050.6784Did she ever yell at you?1051.6308
869DCA_se3_ag2_f_011052.1464Oh yes.1052.9788
870DCA_int_031053.1428[Why?]1053.4470
871DCA_se3_ag2_f_011053.3349[Because] uh, I had a tendency of chewing gum, I've always liked gum.1057.1348
872 1058.0965And she'd say take the gum out of your mouth you know and1061.0138
873DCA_int_031061.1933[Mm-hm.]1061.7415
874DCA_se3_ag2_f_011061.2022[I'd sit] there and pretend like I took it out and I'd still be chewing all the while [and she'd yell] at me for that.1066.2707
875DCA_int_031064.9261[Mm-hm.]1065.5824
876 1066.9042/But/1067.1043
878 1067.2283Did you ever consider her unfair about her yelling and her hollering at1071.3335 
880 1071.8606you and the other kids?1072.9020 
881DCA_se3_ag2_f_011073.7107No not really because uh, when she did yell it was for a good reason.1077.9689
883 1078.8946You know and I was always devilish [in class you know so]1081.8279 
884DCA_int_031080.4873[Mm-hm. Mm-hm.]1081.8319
885DCA_se3_ag2_f_011082.2062as a consequence I was always getting yelled at.1084.5085
886DCA_int_031084.4845Mm-hm.1084.9725
887 1085.1020[<laugh>]1086.8708
888DCA_se3_ag2_f_011085.2769[<laugh>]1086.5895
889DCA_int_031087.4111What was the uh, best teacher you ever had?1089.4520
890DCA_se3_ag2_f_011090.1375Um,1090.9059
892 1091.2461her name was Miss /RD-NAME-2/.1092.6547 
894 1092.9280I had her when I went to Brightwood in the sixth grade.1095.4092 
896 1096.3428<ts>1096.4048 
898 1097.0441And um,1098.0325 
900 1099.1343she was good, she had a way with the kids.1101.5729 
901DCA_int_031101.7127Mm-hm.1102.1529
902DCA_se3_ag2_f_011102.8812And she made you really work.1104.9902
904 1106.0331You know you- you found yourself uh,1107.9620 
906 1108.2861reading and1109.0968 
908 1110.2852looking up things, it w- it was her whole approach.1112.8824 
909DCA_int_031112.9827Mm-hm.1113.4789
910DCA_se3_ag2_f_011113.5830She's died since then [though.]1115.0417
911DCA_int_031114.7635[Mm-hm.]1115.2755
912 1115.9001Um,1116.3681
914 1116.6037what did she1117.3611 
916 1117.4962motivate the kids or did she make them herself?1120.1374 
917DCA_se3_ag2_f_011120.3295Yeah she introduced us in the sixth grade to a lot of things that1124.0195
919 1124.1195you'd have you know when you got older.1126.0696 
920DCA_int_031126.2657Mm-hm.1126.9377
921DCA_se3_ag2_f_011127.2301Um, we studied Spanish.1129.1590
923 1130.3399And um, she told us about different countries like France and Germany.1134.7831 
925 1135.0953And she'd bring in pictures.1136.5760 
927 1138.0230And um,1138.9324 
929 1139.5527she would read poetry to the class.1142.1059 
931 1142.7674So I- I really enjoyed that.1144.5242 
932DCA_int_031143.9251[Mm-hm.]1144.6185
933 1145.4498That's interesting.1146.2142
935 1146.6704Uh,1147.0068 
937 1147.3950who was the one- the one teacher that you just couldn't stand?1150.9006 
939 1151.9094In all your [years.]1152.9058 
940DCA_se3_ag2_f_011152.8338[Uh,] this was my third grade teacher.1155.9312
941 1156.0855Her name was Miss- she- well she was Miss /RD-NAME-2/ at the time.1159.7813
943 1161.0031And uh,1161.8127 
945 1161.8915she just wasn't interested in teaching, she'd come in you know,1165.5864 
947 1166.1439She'd ha- it seemed like she just had this attitude, [she didn't wanna be] there in the first place.1169.9536 
948DCA_int_031168.1910[Mm-hm.]1169.0055
950 1169.9158Mm-hm.1170.3877 
951DCA_se3_ag2_f_011170.7103She'd dye her hair every day it seemed like her hair was a different color.1174.1919
953 1175.5559And uh,1176.5523 
955 1176.7124one thing I remember about her w- on one particular occasion she was sitting at her desk,1181.7689 
957 1183.3920she1183.9123 
959 1184.0163took off her stockings1185.8833 
961 1186.0034and proceeded to paint her toenails you know well you can imagine everybody just sitting there you know looking- especially the little boys you know they were looking you know they'd never seen anything like that.1194.9420 
962DCA_int_031195.8024What kind of teacher was that?1197.1437
963DCA_se3_ag2_f_011198.3481She was really something.1199.6747
965 1199.9088Yeah [she did that.]1200.7452 
966DCA_int_031200.0409[Did you all ever] play tricks on her?1201.5015
967DCA_se3_ag2_f_011202.5782<ts>1202.6263
969 1202.8344No.1203.3286 
971 1203.8718Nobody ever did [anything to her.]1205.6807 
972DCA_int_031204.6882[Were you afraid of her] or what?1206.1329
973DCA_se3_ag2_f_011208.1061Oh no she just wasn't the kind you'd think of playing a trick on I mean you never knew exactly what she was gonna do I mean she was so weird you know.1215.4048
974DCA_int_031215.3968Uh-huh.1215.8421
975 1216.2815I see what you mean.1217.1775
977 1218.0223Um,1218.4050 
979 1220.3877in those days was there ever uh, a group of uh, kids that you hung around with?1225.1631 
980DCA_se3_ag2_f_011226.7921Not at Mott1227.7361
982 1228.1287particularly I ha- well I had about1230.3218 
984 1230.4821just maybe two f-1231.3585 
986 1231.5066girls that I would hang around with.1233.1473 
987DCA_int_031234.4021[Mm-hm.]1235.0264
988DCA_se3_ag2_f_011234.4781[And uh,]1235.6306
989 1236.4091well both of 'em were fa-1237.4256
991 1237.6097fat1237.9779 
993 1238.0819you know I was just sort of in between.1239.8067 
995 1240.5923Sort of Laurel and Hardy [business.]1242.3029 
996DCA_int_031242.0302[Mm-hm.]1242.5395
997DCA_se3_ag2_f_011243.5549And um,1244.5793
999 1246.6603they weren't very popular at school.1248.6896 
1001 1249.3390People would um,1250.3755 
1003 1250.7969pick on them. One particular girl had very long braids and the kids would pull her braids all the time.1255.8833 
1005 1257.0222And then um,1258.0978 
1007 1258.2578her father would give her a lot of money1260.1707 
1009 1260.4429you know all the t- I think at the time she got a dollar a day, well at this [time,]1263.9897 
1010DCA_int_031263.8056[Mm.]1264.0898
1011DCA_se3_ag2_f_011264.4099you know that [was a lot of money.]1265.8579
1012DCA_int_031264.8541[/That is a lot/ yeah.]1266.1461
1013DCA_se3_ag2_f_011267.0415So I- I don't know whether I was hanging around with her to get a penny or [two or what it was.]1272.1922
1014DCA_int_031271.0317[<laugh>]1272.5970
1015DCA_se3_ag2_f_011273.6249<laugh>1274.3012
1016DCA_int_031275.3998Well what about your group now?1276.8265
1018 1277.1338/The-/ Do you have a particular group that you hang around with?1280.2178 
1019DCA_se3_ag2_f_011279.7586<ts>1279.8206
1020 1280.8881Well um,1281.8285
1022 1283.8095I1284.2617 
1024 1284.7299am a member of the international grou- um, club [at school.]1288.0835 
1025DCA_int_031287.3671[Club at school] uh-huh.1288.5557
1026DCA_se3_ag2_f_011288.5539<ts>1288.6059
1027 1289.1562And uh, I like1290.4575
1029 1290.7071people from different countries, I don't like to hang around with any particular clique1294.9210 
1031 1295.5075as such, you know I think for a person to grow you need1298.3768 
1033 1298.7231to be exposed to a variety of people1300.7737 
1035 1301.4856as such, [you know.]1302.3202 
1036DCA_int_031301.9858[Mm-hm.]1302.5991
1037 1303.3997But uh, do- You must have some people that you're- you have m- closely more related [with.]1308.7952
1038DCA_se3_ag2_f_011307.7848<ts>1307.8368
1040 1308.3710Well-1308.8513 
1041DCA_int_031309.1958Maybe Veronica?1310.4524
1042DCA_se3_ag2_f_011310.1743[Well] there's two girls really, Veronica1312.6857
1043 1312.8277and another1313.6956
1045 1313.8053friend of mine named Anita1315.1099 
1047 1315.3300you know and I-1315.8743 
1049 1316.0544I think the three of us are pretty [close.]1317.8413 
1050DCA_int_031317.6332[Mm-hm.]1318.1452
1051 1318.5697Mm-hm.1319.0737
1053 1319.8835Uh,1320.3621 
1055 1320.5958well my next question's supposed to be1322.2446 
1057 1322.7509<clears throat> do any of the people in the group speak a foreign language?1326.1857 
1059 1327.1745So I- [I mentioned your-] your uh, international club /is/1330.6581 
1060DCA_se3_ag2_f_011327.7427[Oh yes.]1328.6031
1061 1330.6801[Yes.]1331.4054
1062DCA_int_031331.1323[/?/] Mm-hm.1332.0243
1063 1332.6942Um,1333.1529
1065 1333.9249are there any white friends or any people that you associate with who-1337.7401 
1067 1338.8256Members of the other race?1340.0550 
1068DCA_se3_ag2_f_011340.7465No not in that particular club, no.1342.9315
1069DCA_int_031343.6380Mm.1343.9300
1071 1345.0950/Boy that's Howard ??/1346.6390 
1072DCA_se3_ag2_f_011346.6597<laugh>1348.1284
1073DCA_int_031348.9047Is there um,1349.8167
1075 1349.9344any particular one1351.8214 
1077 1352.5938of- Say, let's take uh,1354.1345 
1079 1354.6510you know, you and Veronica and Anita,1356.4222 
1080DCA_se3_ag2_f_011356.6439[Mm-hm.]1357.2202
1081DCA_int_031356.7840[Which one] of you seems to be the-1359.0013
1082 1359.4695the spokesman or the one that the others- other two listens to?1362.9575
1083DCA_se3_ag2_f_011363.7567I'd say Veronica.1364.9453
1084DCA_int_031365.1213Veronica?1365.9573
1086 1366.3320Well why?1366.9363 
1088 1367.1044Why do you say that?1367.8327 
1089DCA_se3_ag2_f_011367.7807<ts>1367.8659
1090 1368.9894Um,1369.6908
1092 1371.4670Veronica has a way about her, nothing really gets her down but so much you [know.]1375.9903 
1093DCA_int_031375.8582[Mm-hm.]1376.3902
1094DCA_se3_ag2_f_011376.6087Regardless of the situation, I mean she can always think of something funny to say about it you know she says, well I'm not gonna be bothered [with that girl you know or something.]1384.0103
1095DCA_int_031382.4846[Uh-huh.]1383.0489
1097 1383.2330[Mm-hm.]1383.8212 
1098 1384.0293[Mm-hm.]1384.5016
1099DCA_se3_ag2_f_011384.7601Whereas u- um,1386.3774
1101 1387.0412<ts> Anita and I tend to get down in the dumps a lot you [know.]1390.6065 
1102DCA_int_031390.4303[Mm-hm.]1391.0250
1103DCA_se3_ag2_f_011391.5725Whereas uh, she doesn't.1393.0692
1104DCA_int_031393.1504Mm-hm.1393.5757
1106 1394.5012I see. [/?/ She's more or less- yeah, she's more or less] like the leader of the [group or something] you know.1400.0069 
1107DCA_se3_ag2_f_011394.9644[She has this fighting quality about her you know.]1397.4456
1109 1398.9404[Yeah.]1399.5498 
1110DCA_int_031400.4731I see what you mean, so you realize that all of this she's gonna hear? [<laugh>]1404.5024
1111DCA_se3_ag2_f_011403.8350[<laugh>]1405.0515
1112DCA_int_031405.1346/??/1405.7440
1113DCA_se3_ag2_f_011406.3555<laugh>1406.8141
1114DCA_int_031408.0861Um, what does it take- what kind of qualities does it take for a person to become your friend or to1414.7236
1116 1415.0019say1415.3606 
1118 1415.8943get into your group,1417.0290 
1120 1417.2312your-1417.5005 
1121DCA_se3_ag2_f_011419.0000I think people that I feel that I can relate with1421.8256
1123 1422.0297and that1422.5219 
1125 1422.7741understand me as a person um-1425.1271 
1127 1427.7336<ts>1427.8035 
1129 1428.3717I don't like this business of uh,1430.7885 
1131 1430.9405being in a gang having to do things because everybody else is doing them, I1434.7724 
1133 1435.2838believe in the more individualized approach1437.9824 
1135 1438.3313to [things, you know.] If you want to do something do it because you want to do it.1442.0952 
1136DCA_int_031438.8417[Mm-hm.]1439.3099
1137 1442.1312Mm-hm.1442.5925
1138DCA_se3_ag2_f_011442.7127Not because everybody else is doing it.1444.4815
1140 1446.0905You know, [regardless of what it is.]1447.7359 
1141DCA_int_031446.4867[/inaudible/]1447.5392
1142 1448.5797Um,1448.9599
1144 1450.2256if-1450.5439 
1146 1451.3342if you had to do it1452.5648 
1148 1452.9703all over again,1453.9636 
1149DCA_se3_ag2_f_011453.9797Mm-hm.1454.4383
1150DCA_int_031455.0722uh, if you could say start back to the age of say, six,1459.1200
1151DCA_se3_ag2_f_011459.3166Mm-hm.1459.7447
1152DCA_int_031459.7007what would you change about your life up til your1462.2527
1153 1462.5713twenty one years? <laugh>1463.7970
1154DCA_se3_ag2_f_011464.4271<ts>1464.5112
1156 1465.1817Well uh, I think the main thing um,1467.8589 
1158 1469.4169I'd get my father to show me how to protect myself because uh,1472.6784 
1160 1473.1758like I say I was always the little lady you [know, sitting] around. I didn't know how to uh, fight or anything you know this just wasn't expected.1480.8590 
1161DCA_int_031475.7314[Mm-hm.]1476.2476
1163 1480.8190Mm-hm.1481.3070 
1164DCA_se3_ag2_f_011481.5273You were just to be1482.5708
1166 1482.7090a lady at all times and uh,1485.3583 
1168 1485.8465as a consequence like I say when I went to Mott I uh, had to learn these things.1490.2808 
1170 1491.1825You know [it's quite a] uh,1492.6478 
1171DCA_int_031491.3986[Mm-hm.]1492.0549
1172DCA_se3_ag2_f_011492.8152traumatic1493.3487
1174 1493.4447experience really you know when you're getting hit all the time you know and you [just not supposed] to do [anything.]1498.2788 
1175DCA_int_031496.8783[Yeah.]1497.4386
1177 1498.0348[Mm-hm.]1498.5349 
1178DCA_se3_ag2_f_011499.2806So I had to learn to hit too.1500.7533
1179DCA_int_031500.7286Mm-hm.1501.2329
1180 1501.7131I think maybe it helps you1502.9977
1182 1503.3859appreciate the people who have to live [/inaudible/]1506.3192 
1183DCA_se3_ag2_f_011505.2649[Yeah.]1505.8462
1184DCA_int_031506.7717Um,1507.1759
1186 1507.7162what-1507.9415 
1188 1508.4676w- what are you majoring in now?1510.2204 
1189DCA_se3_ag2_f_011510.5005Art [education.]1511.4552
1190DCA_int_031511.2852[Art] education.1512.0305
1191DCA_se3_ag2_f_011512.0775[Mm-hm.]1512.5522
1192DCA_int_031512.3136[Plan] to1512.8059
1193 1513.0260[teach?]1513.4181
1194DCA_se3_ag2_f_011513.3261[Be] a teacher, [yeah.]1514.1514
1195DCA_int_031514.0067[Uh-huh.]1514.3987
1196 1514.8551Would you-1515.3697
1198 1516.0467w- Have you ever considered changing your um, mind about uh, teaching?1519.9467 
1200 1520.2369Have you ever wanted to be something else?1521.8429 
1201DCA_se3_ag2_f_011523.1715Mm,1523.6717
1203 1524.3841ever since I can remember I've wanted to be a teacher.1527.4095 
1204DCA_int_031527.6289Mm-hm.1528.0411
1205DCA_se3_ag2_f_011528.0091Before I wanted to be an elementary school1530.1261
1206 1530.7103teacher and then1531.6730
1208 1532.2473when I got in high school um,1534.5284 
1210 1535.0178I developed an interest in art.1536.7346 
1212 1538.6115So I decided to change and be a art [teacher.]1541.2499 
1213DCA_int_031541.0018[Mm-hm.]1541.5191
1214DCA_se3_ag2_f_011542.1343[Mm-hm.]1542.5956
1215DCA_int_031542.3344[Why do you] think you got interested in art?1543.8271
1216 1543.9404/?/1544.2485
1218 1544.6967You had a certain /??/ or something?1546.2654 
1219DCA_se3_ag2_f_011545.1190[Well my-]1545.5753
1220 1546.4677well my father is an artist for one thing [and] I've always been around art and I guess it just sort of rubbed off on me.1553.3213
1221DCA_int_031548.8229[Oh.]1549.2216
1223 1553.2892[Mm-hm.1553.7615 
1224DCA_se3_ag2_f_011554.2820And1554.5461
1226 1554.7982in high school I found I really had an interest for it1557.1783 
1228 1557.2634and then my teacher1558.2438 
1230 1558.4891that I had you know encouraged me to continue with it.1561.0275 
1231DCA_int_031562.3401Well that's good, it's something I always wanted to do.1564.5971
1233 1565.3076Um, do you have a job or are you just full s-1568.0732 
1235 1568.3392full time student?1569.6318 
1236DCA_se3_ag2_f_011569.8461<ts>1569.9241
1238 1570.4605Well uh, I have a job when I can get one really. <laugh>1574.3853 
1239DCA_int_031573.0046[Yeah okay. <laugh>]1574.2566
1240 1575.7044Alright well we'll change that subject. What uh- How do your family1579.1070
1242 1579.3583uh, spend1580.0890 
1244 1580.7630Christmas holidays?1581.8896 
1245DCA_se3_ag2_f_011582.4290Well we're usually together. It's just the three of us, my mother, my father, and myself. We usually have a quiet1587.8620
1247 1588.6801Christmas1589.4525 
1249 1589.5885um,1590.1299 
1251 1591.6018I have quite a few relatives,1593.1345 
1253 1593.9551but some of them you know you just don't wanna be bothered with.1596.8245 
1254DCA_int_031596.8084Mm-hm.1597.3247
1255DCA_se3_ag2_f_011597.6929And uh,1598.5252
1257 1600.6385I'm sure everybody has relatives like [that.]1602.7736 
1258DCA_int_031602.6748[Mm-hm.]1603.2899
1259DCA_se3_ag2_f_011603.9782Um,1604.5317
1261 1605.3240so it's just the three of us you know, we usually enjoy Christmas.1608.3374 
1262DCA_int_031608.5329Mm-hm. You exchange [gifts?]1609.9655
1263DCA_se3_ag2_f_011609.7854[We] exchange gifts?1611.2061
1264 1612.0366My mother usually1613.0571
1266 1613.1771makes a big turkey and pies and everything, usually sit there and eat1616.5368 
1267DCA_int_031616.6409[Yeah.]1617.0822
1268DCA_se3_ag2_f_011616.7089[you know.]1617.1451
1269DCA_int_031617.4332Mm-hm.1617.8479
1270DCA_se3_ag2_f_011618.4260Listen to records you know Christmas records and um,1621.5473
1272 1622.3227<ts>1622.3848 
1274 1622.7002we usually decorate the Christmas tree1624.6812 
1276 1624.8172the night before on Christmas Eve.1626.4540 
1278 1627.5117And you know we sit around1628.9010 
1280 1629.2417the f- well we have a fireplace in our basement so we usually1632.2671 
1282 1632.7915<ts>1632.8456 
1284 1632.9316light the fire, sit around, play a [record,]1635.0496 
1285DCA_int_031634.8698[Mm-hm.1635.3180
1286DCA_se3_ag2_f_011635.5541talk,1635.8622
1287DCA_int_031635.9983Mm-hm.1636.3743
1288DCA_se3_ag2_f_011636.5586drink, you know. <laugh>1638.0574
1289DCA_int_031638.0713Oh that- that s- that sounds nice. [<laugh>]1640.2384
1290DCA_se3_ag2_f_011640.1023[<laugh>]1640.9370
1291DCA_int_031641.8074That's the best part.1642.6238
1293 1643.0600[<laugh>]1643.4802 
1294DCA_se3_ag2_f_011643.3601[<laugh>]1643.7003
1295DCA_int_031643.8924What um-1644.5470
1297 1645.4934about Christmas gifts, what uh-1647.3983 
1299 1647.8945what would you like to have for Christmas?1649.7732 
1300DCA_se3_ag2_f_011650.6671<ts>1650.7631
1301DCA_int_031650.9882And why?1651.7471
1302DCA_se3_ag2_f_011654.0739[Mm.]1654.6702
1303DCA_int_031654.2660[Something you] can say on the tape. [<laugh>]1656.5843
1304DCA_se3_ag2_f_011655.5918[<laugh>]1657.7798
1305 1659.1295Let's- Well if possible- Let's see, I'd like an engagement ring for [Christmas.]1662.5812
1306DCA_int_031662.3851[Oh] okay.1663.3905
1307DCA_se3_ag2_f_011664.4564<ts>1664.6125
1309 1665.3658But uh, I don't know if that's possible though because you know finances and this kind of [thing.]1669.8723 
1310DCA_int_031669.5930[Mm-hm.]1670.2077
1311 1671.4631So you plan to get married?1672.7077
1312DCA_se3_ag2_f_011672.8477I'd like to [yes.]1674.0366
1313DCA_int_031673.6601[Mm-hm.]1674.1846
1314 1674.5208What about him? <laugh>1675.8334
1315DCA_se3_ag2_f_011675.9134Oh I [think he'd like to too.] <laugh>1677.9401
1316DCA_int_031676.4097[/inaudible/]1677.6022
1317 1679.1392Well what was the best Christmas present you ever got?1681.2242
1318DCA_se3_ag2_f_011682.2498<ts>1682.3579
1320 1682.9542Uh, it was a TV.1684.2155 
1321DCA_int_031684.7544Mm-hm that's pretty good.1686.1310
1322DCA_se3_ag2_f_011687.1915Um,1687.7981
1324 1689.1254<ts>1689.2034 
1326 1689.3097that's about the best one uh,1691.0305 
1328 1691.5987uh, I'd say my next favorite one was when I got a record player.1695.1490 
1330 1695.2666[Cause I]1695.6599 
1331DCA_int_031695.2666[Mm-hm.]1695.7828
1332DCA_se3_ag2_f_011696.1091had had a record player when I was little and that was1698.6962
1334 1699.1739just about on it's last legs.1700.8328 
1335DCA_int_031702.6096Well that sounds like the one I have [now.] <laugh>1705.1221
1336DCA_se3_ag2_f_011703.8982[<laugh>]1704.4144
1337DCA_int_031706.1426Um,1706.5839
1339 1708.3276were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or that you might die?1712.5978 
1340DCA_se3_ag2_f_011714.4931No not really die1716.0918
1342 1716.5501as such where I'd be dead, no.1718.4411 
1344 1719.5638I've been in a situation where1721.1485 
1346 1721.4126you-1721.6727 
1348 1721.8848you felt some time you know so bad until you wish you1724.9422 
1350 1725.6859would [die you] know.1726.7184 
1351DCA_int_031726.2222[Oh.]1726.4423
1352 1727.1106Oh well I- no I don't mean that, I mean have you ever been say uh-1730.5103
1353DCA_se3_ag2_f_011730.7264In an [accident] or something [like that?]1732.6756
1354DCA_int_031730.8988[/?/]1731.1989
1356 1732.2514[Or] close to one?1733.5621 
1357DCA_se3_ag2_f_011733.6801No.1734.1387
1358DCA_int_031734.2163Nothing like that?1734.9819
1359DCA_se3_ag2_f_011734.9939No.1735.3861
1360DCA_int_031735.3340Never had a brush with death? [<laugh>]1738.2954
1361DCA_se3_ag2_f_011736.9628[No, not yet. <laugh>]1738.3041
1362DCA_int_031738.8030Okay.1739.2123
1364 1739.7154Sometimes people say that you know what's gonna happen is gonna happen, how do you-1743.4222 
1366 1743.8105how do you feel about that?1744.8110 
1368 1745.6166[/inaudible/]1747.0612 
1369DCA_se3_ag2_f_011745.6674[I um,]1746.7559
1370 1748.9313I feel that1749.5156
1372 1749.6756God has one plan for you,1751.5690 
1374 1752.0789and you have another1753.1354 
1376 1753.3355for yourself and that1754.5320 
1378 1755.5288uh, the two1756.9528 
1380 1757.5097do not always coincide but1759.5466 
1382 1760.4224um,1761.0331 
1384 1762.8715in the long run,1763.9280 
1386 1764.1182God's plan will be better for you because uh,1766.6114 
1388 1767.3231he's not only1768.1795 
1390 1768.2875concerned with you and your desires but uh, other people too.1772.2894