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1DCA_int_050.4478What kind of games did you play when you were younger?2.9424
2DCA_se3_ag2_f_023.3481[<laugh>]7.2125
3DCA_int_053.3761[<laugh>]7.2078
4DCA_se3_ag2_f_027.9959Well I used to play jump rope10.1688
6 11.6178and um,12.9374 
8 13.6648mumblety peg,14.9518 
10 15.5533<ts>15.7072 
12 16.4812and um,17.5304 
14 17.8696let's see.18.7509 
16 19.0959What else?19.9066 
18 20.6767Uh, Mummy and Daddy.22.8216 
20 24.5224Uh,25.1472 
22 28.5978I can't think of any others.30.4291 
23DCA_int_0530.3778Hm.30.7325
24DCA_se3_ag2_f_0230.9187[I used] to pretend a lot though.32.5315
25DCA_int_0530.9187[How-]31.2451
26 32.9990Uh-huh. How'd you play um, mumblety peg?35.1086
27DCA_se3_ag2_f_0236.4355Uh, you take a knife, and you throw it into the ground.39.3522
29 42.1831And uh,43.0025 
31 43.4477you43.7951 
33 43.9465try to make it stick into the ground. At least that was my version of it.47.3207 
34DCA_int_0547.4632Mm-hm.47.9797
36 48.3582Well could you tell me exactly what mumblety peg is?50.7716 
37DCA_se3_ag2_f_0251.6300No I have not the slightest idea.53.7495
38DCA_int_0554.7960What do the words mean?56.3099
40 56.7330I've never heard of that [before.]58.0989 
41DCA_se3_ag2_f_0257.9965[I don't] know, it's an English game.59.7491
42DCA_int_0561.1180Oh I see.62.0130
43DCA_se3_ag2_f_0262.1555Uh, I63.1396
45 63.5348think we adopted it from them some years ago or something.66.6117 
46DCA_int_0568.9306How do you play jump rope? <laugh>71.0056
47DCA_se3_ag2_f_0271.1927Oh well you just jump up and down, and you turn the rope!74.2251
48DCA_int_0574.9765[<laugh>]78.4097
49DCA_se3_ag2_f_0276.2144[That machine couldn't possibly be on (laughing).}78.3963
50DCA_int_0578.7481[<laugh> Did you play] uh, Double Dutch?80.9913
51DCA_se3_ag2_f_0278.7659[<laugh>]79.6476
52 81.6147Oh yes, I loved that.83.0296
53DCA_int_0583.3736Um, do- do you remember any of the rhymes that you said when you played Double Dutch?87.1441
54DCA_se3_ag2_f_0287.1716<ts>87.2649
56 87.8610Let's see. Um,89.6377 
58 90.3947There was D- I- S- H,92.6261 
60 93.1009which was Dish, you know. You just kept uh, saying that until you missed.97.0451 
62 97.8822And uh,98.8441 
64 99.7124let's see.100.3625 
66 102.7493Oh there was one that I used to like but I can't remember all of it so I won't say.106.8130 
67DCA_int_05107.4994Mm-hm.107.8734
68DCA_se3_ag2_f_02108.4200Um-108.7585
69DCA_int_05110.8068Um,111.4525
71 111.7953could you112.3742 
73 112.5969uh, explain to me exactly how you played Double Dutch? Say I never played it before or anything, you were just explaining to me how you played it.118.7792 
74DCA_se3_ag2_f_02120.0009Well uh, first of all, you need either very long rope123.7224
76 124.0252that you can double124.9960 
78 125.8999or126.3886 
80 126.6558two single ropes.128.0362 
82 128.7754Then you need uh, one person on one end and another person on the other end.133.6947 
84 134.4562And they135.1018 
86 135.4180turn both ropes simultaneously,137.7146 
88 137.9016you see?138.3291 
90 139.1885And uh, then someone140.7737 
92 140.9607runs in,141.8112 
94 142.3055and they jump up and down143.5824 
96 143.8496trying to miss both ropes at the same time.146.2408 
97DCA_int_05146.6193I see.147.3540
99 148.2089Um,149.0327 
101 149.3300did you ever say any rhymes like, engine engine number nine, or anything like that?153.1327 
102DCA_se3_ag2_f_02153.3287Yes, come to think of it, I did.155.1633
103DCA_int_05155.7544Do you remember it?156.6672
104DCA_se3_ag2_f_02157.3797Let's see;158.3415
106 162.3792engine, engine number nine,164.4008 
108 164.8149riding down Chicago Line.166.8087 
110 167.6592If the train should jump the track,169.3691 
112 170.0014do you want your money back? That's the way I remember it.172.3559 
113DCA_int_05172.5029[Yeah.]172.9838
114DCA_se3_ag2_f_02172.7478[Yep.]173.0730
115 174.2172Mm-hm.174.5646
116DCA_int_05174.5467Um,175.1612
117 175.5486when you were- Did you ever play Hide and Seek?177.4322
118DCA_se3_ag2_f_02177.8853Yes, uh-huh.178.8828
119DCA_int_05179.2880Um, how did you play that?180.7174
120DCA_se3_ag2_f_02181.3185Oh dear.182.0013
122 182.5965Uh, well,183.4336 
124 184.0782first of all,184.8485 
126 185.0623we would have to um-186.7054 
128 187.1195I don't remember exactly how we did it. It would be189.4829 
130 189.8569someone would call, first, second, something like that. And whoever was last in uh,194.3143 
132 195.9964calling the places197.3590 
134 197.8488would be it.198.5746 
135DCA_int_05199.1668Mm-hm.199.6344
136DCA_se3_ag2_f_02199.6923And it would have to hide its face202.0423
137DCA_int_05202.1982<laugh>202.4742
138DCA_se3_ag2_f_02202.4386or its eyes.203.3737
139 203.9749And uh, the others would run and hide.206.0321
141 206.9082[And um,]207.6073 
142DCA_int_05206.9082[Mm-hm.]207.5405
143DCA_se3_ag2_f_02208.1996we had various hiding places- under the bed, in the closet,211.1028
145 211.5704outside, in the basement,213.1055 
147 214.3657um,215.0559 
149 215.3409even under cars some people hid.217.3670 
150DCA_int_05217.8646Mm.218.2342
151DCA_se3_ag2_f_02218.9689[And uh,]219.7615
152DCA_int_05218.9912[Uh-]219.3875
153DCA_se3_ag2_f_02220.4250then uh,221.3022
155 221.9256whoever was found first223.8474 
157 224.8768by it225.4200 
159 225.6249would have to replace226.8138 
161 227.8869him or her228.9334 
163 229.1427as it.229.7774 
164DCA_int_05230.8025I see.231.4048
166 231.9335Did you have any other ways of deciding who was it?234.4450 
167DCA_se3_ag2_f_02235.5571Not that I can recall. I'm sure there must have been some.238.5984
168DCA_int_05238.9813Mm-hm.239.5914
170 240.4374[How-]240.8416 
171DCA_se3_ag2_f_02240.4597[But uh], it's been so long since I was a child, you know.243.5801
172DCA_int_05243.7716Mm-hm.244.2569
174 244.7200Did you ever play any games with bottle caps?247.1153 
175DCA_se3_ag2_f_02248.1699Bottle caps.249.2119
177 251.0910Uh, I used to collect them.252.4723 
178DCA_int_05253.2763Mm-hm. Why'd you collect 'em?254.6350
179DCA_se3_ag2_f_02256.2775Oh I don't know. I guess because they- <laugh>259.8567
181 260.1272Because they reminded me of money,262.2967 
183 262.9914I think.263.6558 
184DCA_int_05264.8561<laugh> I see.266.3255
186 266.8643Um, did you ever play Mother May I?268.7493 
187DCA_se3_ag2_f_02271.2760Uh, if that's the same as274.1392
189 274.3930Giant Step-275.3671 
190DCA_int_05275.7145Yeah, /[somewhat] similar/. [Mm-hm.]277.3976
191DCA_se3_ag2_f_02276.0440[Is it?]276.4314
193 277.0281[Yes,] well that's what we used to play.279.0897 
194 279.5350[And uh], Red Light. I just [remembered another one. <laugh>]282.5837
195DCA_int_05279.5707[Uh-huh.]280.0961
197 281.1993[<laugh>]283.1433 
198 283.3345Aw.283.8132
199DCA_se3_ag2_f_02283.4557Yeah.283.8800
200DCA_int_05284.6280Um,285.5275
202 286.7287let me see.287.5748 
204 288.7013Oh um, do you watch much TV now?291.1148 
205DCA_se3_ag2_f_02291.9731Not very much. It bores me.293.9547
206DCA_int_05294.6359Oh my.295.3306
208 295.8471Um, well, when you do watch, what-298.2472 
210 298.4911what do you usually watch?299.7111 
212 300.1564Preferably.300.8956 
213DCA_se3_ag2_f_02301.0337Well I watch Julia so that I can laugh.303.9317
215 306.2291I watch uh,307.7475 
217 307.9568Mod Squad,309.1146 
219 310.2979so that I can see all the credits to our race.312.7648 
221 313.8424And then I love uh,316.1301 
223 316.8916Carol Burnett.317.7554 
224DCA_int_05318.6816[Hm.]319.0646
225DCA_se3_ag2_f_02318.6950[Yes.]319.2872
226DCA_int_05319.3540Mm-hm.320.0130
227DCA_se3_ag2_f_02320.2579Uh-huh.320.7121
228DCA_int_05321.0762Did you remember um,322.4165
230 322.7549an episode /in one ??/ stories. You know, shows that you can tell me about.326.4553 
231DCA_se3_ag2_f_02330.1679Um,330.7557
233 332.2685now on The Carol Burnett Show, um, I enjoy her uh,336.5032 
235 338.2699the little spoof on a serie- the daytime o- soap box operas. Uh-343.1191 
237 345.1040uh-345.7541 
239 346.2306What is it? Um,347.4284 
241 348.6307As the Stomach Turns she calls it.350.6468 
243 350.8516Yeah.351.1811 
244DCA_int_05351.4528Huh?351.9025
245DCA_se3_ag2_f_02352.3745Th- this is her version of uh, a soap box [opera. Uh-huh], and she calls it As the Stomach Turns.358.6742
246DCA_int_05355.3791[Oh, oh. Uh-huh.]356.4433
248 358.5496Mm-hm.358.9325 
249DCA_se3_ag2_f_02359.4312And uh-360.2283
250DCA_int_05360.1361[<laugh>]361.7946
251DCA_se3_ag2_f_02360.5133[it- <laugh>]361.2257
252 361.9238it's a take off on soap box operas, and they uh, you know-366.6883
254 369.4569They go overboard and uh-371.0912 
255DCA_int_05370.8596Mm-hm.371.3138
256DCA_se3_ag2_f_02371.8214And uh,372.7343
258 373.2987in one particular episode, she had this colored fella who knocked on the door.378.1612 
260 379.1665And um,380.1907 
262 381.3618she says, oh, how wonderful.384.0291 
264 384.3085It's a Negro.385.5820 
265DCA_int_05385.8403<laugh>386.6106
266DCA_se3_ag2_f_02386.8066And then uh,388.1291
268 388.8148he tel- You know, she's treating him very nicely and everything.391.5745 
270 392.0554So,392.5675 
272 392.9816<ts> he uh-393.8900 
274 395.5944He pulls out a gun,396.5874 
276 397.0059and he tells her, give me all your money.398.4309 
278 399.2769So she says, oh certainly! I'd be very happy to. It's so nice to meet someone who isn't a credit to his race.405.6835 
279DCA_int_05405.6613[<laugh>]411.6613
280DCA_se3_ag2_f_02407.5037[I enjoyed that one.]408.7683
281DCA_int_05411.8105Aw.412.2905
283 412.7659On um, <laugh> Mod Squad, do you remember any of the incidents- I mean, episodes on /there/?417.7487 
284DCA_se3_ag2_f_02418.6515Well I remember one that Sammy Davis was on that one. That was not too long ago.423.6699
285DCA_int_05424.0963Mm-hm.424.5594
286DCA_se3_ag2_f_02424.5505And um,425.5613
287 426.8036he played the part of a priest.428.7095
289 430.6320A pretty hip priest, you know.432.4933 
290DCA_int_05432.8229Course.433.3216
291DCA_se3_ag2_f_02433.8559Yes, and uh,435.0181
293 435.7295it seemed that he was uh, quite [able to uh], relate440.0978 
294DCA_int_05438.0405[? <laugh>]439.1894
295DCA_se3_ag2_f_02440.4228to the neighborhood children, you know,442.1762
297 442.4033[in their] own language, and443.8505 
298DCA_int_05442.4122[Mm-hm.]442.7506
299DCA_se3_ag2_f_02444.7455uh, he had very good rapport with them.447.0043
301 448.0173[And someone] was trying to kill him because uh, they- He had made a confession to him that he had killed someone.453.7515 
302DCA_int_05448.1731[Mm-hm.]448.5872
303 454.2858[Mm.]454.8692
304DCA_se3_ag2_f_02454.4818[And] that's what the story revolved [around.]456.8461
305DCA_int_05456.6147[Mm-hm.]457.2470
306 457.8649Mm, something like um,459.1161
308 459.9087nearly trying to get rid of um,461.9660 
310 462.4959Black Nationalists and ch- um, need to work.465.3135 
311DCA_se3_ag2_f_02465.4292Yes, [isn't that awful.]467.0545
312DCA_int_05465.7498[Because they're trying to]467.0545
313 467.2282get, you know, black people off the dope and the Mafia doesn't like it.470.6158
314DCA_se3_ag2_f_02470.9572<ts>471.0224
316 471.1278Yeah.471.5820 
317DCA_int_05471.9605Um,472.6730
319 473.7016let's see. Did you have uh,474.9117 
321 475.0453a pet? Or do you have a pet now?476.9546 
322DCA_se3_ag2_f_02477.9975Yes, I have a pet now.479.7698
324 481.0021I've never had a pet before.482.8501 
325DCA_int_05485.2279Um, what kind is it?486.3189
326DCA_se3_ag2_f_02486.9323Uh, [it's a poodle.]488.2325
327DCA_int_05487.4399[Or what is it?]488.2459
328 488.6823A poodle?489.3680
329DCA_se3_ag2_f_02489.3012Yes.489.8623
330DCA_int_05490.0048Oh.490.9488
332 491.2338Does it ever do anything funny or- <laugh>493.6818 
333DCA_se3_ag2_f_02493.7040Oh, it's always doing something funny. [<laugh>]496.4604
334DCA_int_05495.9617[<laugh>]497.2040
335DCA_se3_ag2_f_02497.6983He chews up everything.499.4472
337 499.7589He doesn't bark.500.9433 
339 501.2640He's a male.502.1456 
341 502.6087[And-]503.1520 
342DCA_int_05502.6176[He doesn't] bark?503.7709
343DCA_se3_ag2_f_02503.7253No,504.2018
344 504.3532very rarely does he bark.505.6935
345DCA_int_05506.2278Oh.506.6954
346DCA_se3_ag2_f_02507.1718And uh, he doesn't have a vicious bone in his body.510.3367
347DCA_int_05510.6084<laugh>513.4315
348DCA_se3_ag2_f_02513.4360He has a difficult time distinguishing males516.3782
350 516.5163from females.517.5137 
351DCA_int_05517.8566/inaudible/519.0811
352DCA_se3_ag2_f_02520.2255Uh,520.8489
354 521.2842but other than that, he's a normal red blooded American dog.524.2810 
355DCA_int_05524.7619Oh yeah.525.3720
356DCA_se3_ag2_f_02525.5323Mm-hm.525.8930
357DCA_int_05525.8974<laugh> Oh, tell me about your school?529.3384
359 530.3715You know, when you were um, younger. I mean, elementary school, junior high [school.]534.1286 
360DCA_se3_ag2_f_02533.8971[Elementary] school, let's see. I hated my first grade teacher. I liked my second grade teacher.539.3374
361 540.5174I hated my third grade teacher.542.3609
363 543.3183And I despised my sixth grade teacher.545.4724 
364DCA_int_05546.5900[Hm.]546.9552
365DCA_se3_ag2_f_02546.6212[<ts>]546.8973
366 548.0951Um-548.7764
367DCA_int_05548.7408What happened with fourth or fifth grade? <laugh>551.2912
368DCA_se3_ag2_f_02551.5584Well I had a pretty nice teacher in those grades. [Yes.]555.3611
369DCA_int_05554.7199[Mm.]555.2231
370DCA_se3_ag2_f_02555.8677Yes, as a matter of fact, I did.557.4262
371DCA_int_05557.6845Uh-huh.558.1609
372DCA_se3_ag2_f_02558.2767But uh, you only remember the extremes [I think.]561.3091
373DCA_int_05560.8905[Yeah.]561.4115
374 562.0516What did you um, study in school?563.8818
375DCA_se3_ag2_f_02565.4447Uh, when? Which school?567.2203
376DCA_int_05567.0022Still talking about elementary.568.3781
377DCA_se3_ag2_f_02568.3514[Elementary school?]569.3666
378DCA_int_05568.8234[Mm-hm.]569.2197
379DCA_se3_ag2_f_02571.1300Um,571.6510
381 572.5137well572.9056 
383 573.7249the standard Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, uh-576.8241 
385 578.4138I liked History best.579.8733 
387 580.3096I hated Geography.581.6054 
388DCA_int_05583.7206Hm.584.2148
390 585.2112Um,585.7945 
392 586.2799what do the kids do after school?587.9141 
393DCA_se3_ag2_f_02588.5509In elementary [school?]589.6997
394DCA_int_05589.4103[Mm-hm.]589.8956
395DCA_se3_ag2_f_02593.3633Mm- <laugh>595.1000
397 595.4874That's a very good question.597.1205 
399 599.1421Um,599.6586 
401 600.4201I guess whatever other kids do [now. <laugh> We weren't that] much different I don't guess,605.1791 
402DCA_int_05602.2714[<laugh>]603.4247
403DCA_se3_ag2_f_02605.5487except that we didn't rob any stores or anything like that.608.3618
404DCA_int_05608.5221<laugh>610.7839
406 610.9517Oh.611.5412 
408 612.1557Um,612.7835 
410 613.6552well, did you um-614.9510 
412 615.2672Yeah, go right home or did you stay in playground after school or?618.6736 
413DCA_se3_ag2_f_02618.5935No. I went right home after school.621.0993
414 621.4689That was a must.622.4664
415DCA_int_05622.8226Mm.623.3124
417 623.4460And then what did you do?624.6427 
418DCA_se3_ag2_f_02625.8005Well um,626.9271
420 627.4525after battling with my mother about changing my clothes,630.5558 
422 631.9622um,632.5411 
424 633.5697I usually did what the boys did.635.1861 
426 635.3954I'd ride bicycles,636.8281 
428 637.4560uh, climb trees,638.8586 
430 639.0768[skate,]639.6423 
431DCA_int_05639.1347[<laugh>]639.6824
432DCA_se3_ag2_f_02639.9941yeah. (laughing)640.6531
433DCA_int_05640.7066Mm.641.1252
434DCA_se3_ag2_f_02641.1474Yeah, this was my pack, you know.642.9230
435DCA_int_05643.7067Hm.644.3168
437 645.4745Um, did you ever have a teacher who hollered a lot?647.8657 
438DCA_se3_ag2_f_02650.3538Yes.651.1420
440 651.3468I had one that called us names and everything.653.6835 
442 653.8170That was my sixth grade teacher.655.5537 
443DCA_int_05655.8164Mm.656.3463
444DCA_se3_ag2_f_02656.6357[Mm-hm.]657.0009
445DCA_int_05656.8628[/Who/] was he like or she like?658.2967
446DCA_se3_ag2_f_02659.0615Oh uh,659.9832
448 662.0672she was a shrew.663.1314 
450 664.0754That's [what she] was.665.1473 
451DCA_int_05664.2446[Hm.]664.5474
452DCA_se3_ag2_f_02666.7728Um,667.2581
454 667.4763actually, she was a pretty poor excuse for a teacher if you want to know the truth about it.671.3667 
456 673.6113Um,674.2436 
458 677.3016her whole attitude678.8780 
460 679.2075toward the children was negative680.9441 
462 681.1534completely. You would think that she hated kids.683.6139 
463DCA_int_05684.3228Oh.684.6345
464DCA_se3_ag2_f_02686.3444And uh, she had her preferences.688.5875
466 688.8369Um,689.3089 
468 689.6072<clears throat>690.0258 
470 691.4463those who were fairer, she was uh-693.6505 
472 694.2817fair in complexion-695.5018 
473DCA_int_05695.9337[Mm.]696.4013
474DCA_se3_ag2_f_02696.1430[she] liked a little better than she did the darker ones.699.1487
475DCA_int_05699.3791Yeah.699.7977
476DCA_se3_ag2_f_02699.8378And they700.4701
478 700.6126fared a lot better in her classroom.702.6431 
479DCA_int_05704.2372Hold over from the old days?705.6566
480DCA_se3_ag2_f_02705.7590Mm-hm.706.2667
481DCA_int_05707.1305Um,707.7450
483 708.1903did you ever have um- or- You remember who your favorite was /unintelligible/?713.5906 
484DCA_se3_ag2_f_02713.7331Uh, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/.715.1357
486 715.9317I had her the second half of the sixth grade because I moved.719.8146 
487DCA_int_05720.1040Mm.720.7185
488DCA_se3_ag2_f_02721.2128And uh,721.9643
490 722.8459she was a gem.723.7276 
492 724.1373She really was.725.1792 
493DCA_int_05726.5107Mm.726.9960
494DCA_se3_ag2_f_02726.9070She was-727.3701
495 727.5382sh- <laugh>728.2952
497 728.6737Well she was a little uh, sensitive730.8734 
499 731.2474for teaching I think because she would cry at the drop of a hat.734.4435 
501 735.2985But- <laugh> But she was a beautiful woman, and she [was really] interested in the children.740.5073 
502DCA_int_05738.8330[Hm.]739.0601
503 740.7254Mm-hm.741.2509
504DCA_se3_ag2_f_02741.6962So I remember her most of all, [I think.]744.2343
505DCA_int_05743.8202[Mm-hm.]744.2655
506 744.7097The teacher that hollered a lot, did you think that her hollering was fair?748.1953
508 748.5214Or748.9399 
509DCA_se3_ag2_f_02749.1403[Oh good heavens], no.750.3515
510DCA_int_05749.2205[you know]-749.7192
511 751.0896<laugh> [Well, you know, why would she holler at you?]754.8745
512DCA_se3_ag2_f_02752.7906[<laugh>]754.8656
513 755.6137I think she was slightly psychotic,757.7767
514DCA_int_05757.8524<laugh>758.2176
515DCA_se3_ag2_f_02758.2665if you want to know the truth about it.760.1768
517 761.0051But as I said, I think she just didn't particularly care for children.764.6019 
518DCA_int_05765.0383Mm-hm.765.5682
520 766.6369Mm.767.0599 
522 768.3991Um, did you have- ever have a teacher that you just couldn't stand?771.2000 
523DCA_se3_ag2_f_02771.8501That was her.772.5047
524DCA_int_05772.8910That was her. [<laugh>] Aw.776.8051
525DCA_se3_ag2_f_02773.2873[<laugh>]774.9749
526DCA_int_05777.1791Did the kids in your class ever play a trick on the teacher?779.6015
527DCA_se3_ag2_f_02781.8892Not that I can remember.783.3097
529 784.6589I can't remember any particular tricks that were played787.6011 
531 788.2824on any teachers.789.5916 
532DCA_int_05790.2239Um, well what were your junior high school and say, high school days like? Whichever one you prefer, you know /junior high school/.796.5659
533DCA_se3_ag2_f_02798.9182I think I prefer high school800.8552
535 801.2738because um,802.2222 
537 804.7593<ts> I think I didn't start liking school until high school807.8719 
539 808.0722really.808.3916 
540DCA_int_05808.8014Mm.809.2066
541DCA_se3_ag2_f_02810.2486And um,811.1080
543 812.2569I just found that whole experience quite pleasurable.815.3283 
545 815.9606And I started taking- Well actually, I started taking a foreign language in the eighth grade,820.5370 
547 821.0447but I really got into it822.5319 
549 823.2978in high school.824.3710 
551 825.1758And uh, I really enjoyed it.826.8323 
553 827.1886I took Spanish.828.3419 
554DCA_int_05828.8985Mm-hm.829.4640
556 830.4971Um-830.8611 
557DCA_se3_ag2_f_02830.8639And I became more active in uh- uh-833.6902
559 834.4946thespian.835.4609 
560DCA_int_05836.0621Mm-hm.836.6187
561DCA_se3_ag2_f_02836.7556So um,837.5616
563 837.8555I enjoyed that.838.8039 
564DCA_int_05839.9528Um, in your elementary school, did you841.7874
566 842.1392go to one of those schools where they change classes?844.3645 
567DCA_se3_ag2_f_02844.8232In elementary school?846.0165
568DCA_int_05845.8785Uh-huh.846.2169
569DCA_se3_ag2_f_02846.4084No.846.8047
571 847.5918Mm-mm.847.8946 
573 848.2909We weren't that progressive. [<laugh>]851.6127 
574DCA_int_05849.8494[<laugh>] Aw.853.4930
575 854.0384Um, is there a bunch of people that you hang around with now?857.1154
576DCA_se3_ag2_f_02859.1459No.859.6224
578 860.1556Not really.860.8948 
580 862.8630I uh,863.5888 
582 866.1481I have several circles of friends. I'll put it that way.869.4967 
583DCA_int_05869.6525Uh-huh.870.2181
584DCA_se3_ag2_f_02870.5208Mm-hm.870.8637
585DCA_int_05870.7201Um, what do you do? You know,872.6972
586 872.9555with your friends?873.7481
587DCA_se3_ag2_f_02874.3181<ts> Well sometimes we go to parties.876.5837
589 877.8036Um,878.4314 
591 880.9162uh, let's see.882.3055 
593 883.3419We go to the movie, um,885.2922 
595 887.4430sometimes we go to cultural functions. [<laugh> If we find the time. <laugh>]894.5699 
596DCA_int_05889.7129[<laugh>] Aw.895.2289
597DCA_se3_ag2_f_02895.6430Listen to music896.7028
599 897.1659[of various] types.898.5018 
600DCA_int_05897.1971[Mm-hm.]897.6201
601 899.0673Mm.899.4903
602DCA_se3_ag2_f_02899.7564Mm-hm.900.2106
603DCA_int_05900.2195Um, have you been to the movies recently?902.3747
604DCA_se3_ag2_f_02903.3098Yes, as a matter of fact, I have.905.3759
605DCA_int_05905.3615<laugh> What was the last movie you saw?908.0288
606DCA_se3_ag2_f_02908.1757The Killing of Sister George. [<laugh>]913.1975
607DCA_int_05909.9747[Oh, yeah. <laugh>]913.1886
608 914.1682What was that about? <laugh>917.6092
609DCA_se3_ag2_f_02918.7090Well uh, um, it was a story.921.5901
611 922.5196It was a little confusing in the beginning,924.8351 
613 925.1112but it was more or less about um,927.3644 
615 929.6164an actress-930.7786 
617 931.4421Thank you-931.9987 
619 932.7869who um,933.7932 
621 935.5332had played a certain part so long938.0847 
623 938.9397that uh,939.8481 
625 943.1866she had started to actually live the part945.5456 
627 945.7905in a sense.946.7256 
628DCA_int_05947.0195Mm.947.4202
629DCA_se3_ag2_f_02947.4559She actually thought that she was this character that she portrayed,951.1507
630DCA_int_05951.7563Mm-hm.952.2327
631DCA_se3_ag2_f_02952.1748and then, too, she had a little953.9026
632 954.7352problem too. She was homosexual.956.8860
634 958.5636And um,959.3340 
636 959.9262she was a very960.7945 
638 960.9771uninhibited961.9256 
640 962.4421person,962.9943 
642 964.1643and uh, I think the story more or less was trying to show um-967.8691 
644 969.1326Well the character that she played was Sister George.972.3627 
645DCA_int_05972.4945Mm-hm.972.9398
646DCA_se3_ag2_f_02972.8997That was her name.973.9952
647 974.9559And uh, she had taken on the character of this person to [such an extent] that uh,979.8941
648DCA_int_05978.4380[Mm-hm.]978.9101
649DCA_se3_ag2_f_02980.8771they even called her982.2085
651 982.5870in uh-983.2728 
653 983.5533at the studio, they called her George. Well this986.0024 
655 986.3264served for dual purposes. [<laugh>]988.8423 
656DCA_int_05987.5643[<laugh>]988.7844
657DCA_se3_ag2_f_02989.2786But uh,990.0980
659 991.9270it showed her trials and tribulations at being canceled as this character that she had come so to love.998.0531 
660DCA_int_05998.2223Mm-hm.998.7522
662 1000.1326[Mm-hm.]1000.6766 
663DCA_se3_ag2_f_021000.2896[And it showed] that at the time that she lost uh,1002.8266
664 1003.4890her part as Sister George, she lost just about everything that she had been striving for.1008.5475
665DCA_int_051008.8449Mm-hm.1009.4369
667 1012.9681Did you enjoy it?1013.7507 
669 1014.8995The [movie?]1015.4072 
670DCA_se3_ag2_f_021015.2201[Yes] I enjoyed it. It was quite amusing.1017.1660
671DCA_int_051017.8518Hm.1018.1501
673 1018.6145[I saw it with a funny] audience, too. <laugh> Um,1022.8937 
674DCA_se3_ag2_f_021018.6234[Quite amusing.]1019.6065
675DCA_int_051024.4066let's see.1025.2527
677 1026.4416When you were um,1027.3411 
679 1027.8888say younger in high school and all, was there a group that you1030.4748 
681 1030.8711usually hung around with at that time? You know, close friends.1033.7655 
682DCA_se3_ag2_f_021034.3611No,1034.9088
684 1035.2561uh,1035.7058 
686 1036.4005i- even then I had uh,1038.4978 
688 1040.8434different circles of friends.1042.5582 
689DCA_int_051042.7403Mm-hm.1043.1722
690DCA_se3_ag2_f_021043.1322In other words, one day I may be with uh,1045.5145
691 1046.1813<clears throat>1046.5642
693 1048.1628say the people who lived in my immediate area.1050.5496 
695 1051.2609And then another day I might be with uh,1053.2291 
697 1054.0039people that I- I knew from school or people that I had met through other people.1057.8991 
699 1059.3151And uh,1059.9786 
701 1060.7668sometimes the groups would merge,1062.8808 
703 1063.0500but not uh,1064.0608 
705 1064.5907very often.1065.3076 
706DCA_int_051065.8420Um, what was the- what was the difference in your two groups?1068.2732
708 1068.7753I mean, you know,1069.4032 
710 1069.7550/between two groups/.1070.7791 
711DCA_se3_ag2_f_021071.8834Well uh,1072.8007
713 1074.8836one group was a little wilder than the other.1077.1902 
715 1077.7735Uh,1078.2233 
717 1080.8983one group went in for more cultural activities like going to a nice concert or um,1086.8062 
719 1087.7814<ts> a ballet or something like that.1089.8075 
721 1090.4621<clears throat> And if I was in a mood for that, then uh,1092.9501 
722DCA_int_051093.8630[Mm-hm.]1094.2326
723DCA_se3_ag2_f_021093.8763[I'd be] with them.1094.9450
724 1095.4749If I was in a mood for1096.6505
726 1097.1258partying,1097.8160 
728 1098.1055I had another circle of friends.1099.6907 
729DCA_int_051099.7931Mm-hm.1100.3586
730DCA_se3_ag2_f_021101.0800So it would depend on what mood I was in as to which group I was with at any given time.1105.7010
731DCA_int_051105.9147Mm-hm.1106.4357
733 1106.8588Were the um, kids in your neighborhood very close?1108.8771 
734DCA_se3_ag2_f_021112.9359Uh, in a sense, yes.1114.7115
736 1116.4882But then there were cliques within the neighborhood as uh,1119.3675 
738 1120.1162within schools or anywhere else.1121.8172 
739DCA_int_051122.0042Mm-hm.1122.4717
740DCA_se3_ag2_f_021122.3293So.1122.6588
741DCA_int_051122.9348Oh that's true.1123.6963
742DCA_se3_ag2_f_021123.7052But for the most part, they stuck together1126.1231
743DCA_int_051126.4782Mm-hm.1126.9814
744DCA_se3_ag2_f_021127.0215as a neighborhood.1128.0679
745DCA_int_051128.5800Yeah.1129.1812
747 1129.5819Um,1129.9738 
749 1130.2454are there any people -1131.2462 
751 1131.9498/Excuse me/ - In your present group that speak a foreign language /now/?1135.0222 
753 1136.4294I mean, you know, as a native speaker.1137.9155 
754DCA_se3_ag2_f_021139.0154Uh, yes.1140.0128
756 1140.9428Spanish.1141.7049 
757DCA_int_051142.2649Uh-huh.1142.6924
759 1143.0308Are there any whites in your group?1144.4646 
760DCA_se3_ag2_f_021147.2165Um,1147.9156
762 1149.6734two1150.1053 
764 1150.2790that I can think of.1151.3833 
765DCA_int_051151.5614Mm-hm.1152.1181
767 1153.0086Um-1153.6142 
768DCA_se3_ag2_f_021154.2098They're bilingual, too. [<laugh>]1157.5584
769DCA_int_051155.9464[<laugh>] Um.1159.2772
770 1159.6067Is there any one person in the group that everyone seems to listen to or regards as a-1164.2055
772 1165.1628well, more or less a leader.1166.7692 
773DCA_se3_ag2_f_021166.9919Yes, me.1167.7177
774DCA_int_051168.9155Oh, w- why is that?1170.0911
775DCA_se3_ag2_f_021172.1160Well uh,1173.1358
777 1176.5244without sounding immodest, uh-1178.7097 
779 1179.4444I am very understanding, and I have certain insights into things that uh,1184.2791 
781 1185.9445people usually find helpful [in certain] s- [situations.]1189.9377 
782DCA_int_051188.1264[Mm-hm.]1188.5673
784 1189.0407[Um.]1189.4930 
786 1189.6482/Like what exactly/?1190.7525 
787misc1192.7875/Rowlie, who are you talking to?/1194.5909
788DCA_int_051193.3664[/We were talking about/] um, about-1195.7387
789 1196.1884We were talking about um,1197.6267
791 1198.7889Oh, the person that's a leader. You said that you were the leader <clears throat> more or less in your group.1202.8177 
792DCA_se3_ag2_f_021203.1917[Yes.]1203.8151
793DCA_int_051203.1962[Oh wait a minute.]1203.8864
794 1205.6586Um, we were talking about1207.2071
796 1207.5856um, you said you were the um,1209.0640 
798 1209.2733leader in your group. Why was that? [<laugh>]1212.2033 
799DCA_se3_ag2_f_021211.0589[Mm-hm.]1211.4953
800 1213.8319Uh,1214.4642
802 1216.0539as I said, because um,1217.8663 
804 1219.2723most people tend to think that I have1221.1959 
806 1221.3740a little insight1222.3403 
807DCA_int_051222.3047<laugh>1222.8658
808DCA_se3_ag2_f_021222.8346uh,1223.2086
809 1224.2361into matters dealing with life in general.1227.1394
810DCA_int_051227.2597Mm-hm.1227.7940
811DCA_se3_ag2_f_021228.0033[And they seem] to-1229.2768
812DCA_int_051228.0033[/inaudible/]1228.7336
813 1229.3692Well go on. I'm /inaudible/.1231.5690
814DCA_se3_ag2_f_021231.5912They seem to pay attention to what I say,1233.9067
815DCA_int_051234.5468Mm-hm.1234.9387
816DCA_se3_ag2_f_021234.8363be it right or wrong.1235.9584
817DCA_int_051235.9228<laugh>1238.2205
818DCA_se3_ag2_f_021238.0691So I- I- I don't really know why,1240.4514
819DCA_int_051240.8688Mm-hm.1241.1672
820DCA_se3_ag2_f_021241.1316but that- that's just my idea of it.1243.8256
821DCA_int_051244.8631Mm-hm.1245.2416
823 1245.4731/That's great/.1246.2212 
825 1246.5452Um, do they come to you with problems, this type of thing?1249.7201 
826DCA_se3_ag2_f_021250.3168Yes,1250.9268
828 1251.1717[quite a bit.]1251.8308 
829DCA_int_051251.3755[/Oh really?/]1251.8564
830DCA_se3_ag2_f_021251.9855[Mm-hm.]1252.3907
831DCA_int_051252.1503[Can you] tell us any of the juicy ones (laughing)? [<laugh> I mean no names. <laugh>]1259.9907
832DCA_se3_ag2_f_021254.5548[Oh, I wouldn't dare divulge any secrets. <laugh>]1259.9774
833 1261.0505Now some of my friends might listen to this and uh, recognize themselves.1265.4845
834DCA_int_051265.8541Oh okay. [<laugh>]1267.7822
835DCA_se3_ag2_f_021266.5042[<laugh>]1267.7020
836DCA_int_051268.6817Um,1269.2116
838 1269.7225if you were um,1270.7645 
840 1271.3122in your group- say your neighborhood group- If someone wanted to get in that was new, you know, a new kid moved into the neighborhood. What would they have to do?1278.2176 
842 1279.3441In order to be accepted into their group?1281.1776 
844 1281.4404Or what- You know, what type of group [/did you play in/?]1283.5599 
845DCA_se3_ag2_f_021282.8608[What do you mean, when] I was [younger?]1284.5663
846DCA_int_051284.4238[Yeah.] [Mm-hm.]1285.3856
847DCA_se3_ag2_f_021285.1140[Uh],1285.5726
848 1286.2528say elementary school age?1287.7980
849DCA_int_051287.9138Yeah, well, you know, any time when you were younger. Could have been elementary /inaudible/.1291.2552
850DCA_se3_ag2_f_021292.0761Oh.1292.6550
852 1293.0424Well, as far as I was concerned, they really didn't have to do anything except be themselves,1298.8167 
854 1298.9859and if I didn't like what they were1300.8491 
855DCA_int_051302.2098Mm-hm.1302.7798
856DCA_se3_ag2_f_021302.7798then uh, I would act accordingly.1304.6800
857 1305.2856But I can honestly say I don't I've ever discriminated1309.2264
859 1309.9957against anyone because of any uh,1312.3780 
861 1313.9588physical or1315.3602 
863 1316.7853mental1317.6580 
865 1318.6777uh,1319.2655 
867 1321.3484problems that uh- Well at least that I viewed as problems1325.3337 
868DCA_int_051325.6588Mm-hm.1326.0729
869DCA_se3_ag2_f_021326.0139because I thought that everyone had to uh,1328.4496
870 1329.0196do his own thing, [you know.]1330.6761
871DCA_int_051329.8835[<laugh>]1330.9121
872DCA_se3_ag2_f_021331.1392I've always felt this way, but now I'm glad I'm in style.1334.1705
873DCA_int_051334.4377[<laugh>] Aw.1338.4205
874DCA_se3_ag2_f_021335.1012[<laugh>]1336.7710
875DCA_int_051338.7203Well um,1339.5886
877 1339.9225predominately, what kind of kids, you know, were in your group?1342.3137 
879 1343.0396<ts> Basically.1344.1428 
880DCA_se3_ag2_f_021345.1246<ts>1345.2179
882 1345.5009Well um,1346.7032 
884 1348.4487until I entered uh-1350.2243 
886 1350.5271Well uh,1351.7695 
888 1353.6575in my close group,1354.9934 
890 1355.4865mostly black kids1356.9783 
892 1357.6106um,1358.0870 
894 1360.7978<ts>1360.8771 
896 1360.9670of, I would say,1362.6350 
898 1365.2328I suppose lower middle class.1367.3379 
900 1368.2419Uh,1368.9143 
902 1371.1630f- Uh, financially speaking, lower middle class.1374.4615 
904 1375.7038Um,1376.2649 
906 1378.4324I guess you found the same type of uh,1380.6766 
908 1381.0640kids that you would find in any uh, socioeconomic group.1384.6252 
910 1385.7874Um,1386.4732 
912 1388.4503we had some who were very easy to get along with,1391.2456 
914 1392.6260uh, those who were very hard to [get along with. <laugh>]1395.7330 
915DCA_int_051394.6698[<laugh>]1396.4900
916DCA_se3_ag2_f_021396.4544And uh,1397.3405
917 1399.2552<ts>1399.3671
919 1399.5583we had-1400.0924 
921 1400.6712But uh, truthfully speaking, uh,1403.1326 
923 1403.8139when I think about it, most of my1405.9201 
925 1406.4099friends were1407.5443 
927 1408.6219those who were interested in uh,1410.9819 
929 1412.2143I might say the better things in life.1414.5659 
930DCA_int_051414.7435Mm-hm.1415.3285
931DCA_se3_ag2_f_021415.9414I don't know whether that was purely accident or what1418.7678
933 1418.9816because most of my friends did go to college.1421.5687 
934DCA_int_051421.6092Mm-hm.1422.0382
935DCA_se3_ag2_f_021422.5573And uh, most of them did finish.1424.7871
936DCA_int_051424.9245Mm-hm.1425.4525
938 1426.5281That's great.1427.3386 
940 1428.7279Um,1429.2400 
942 1429.5372if you could do it all over again,1431.2070 
944 1431.4653would um, there be anything in your life that you would change?1434.7397 
945DCA_se3_ag2_f_021439.1365<ts> Yes.1440.2319
947 1440.3700Well, no.1441.1136 
949 1441.3841No,1441.8116 
951 1442.0254I was about to say that uh,1443.9178 
953 1445.8459I would have changed1447.4167 
955 1448.6858<laugh>1449.1266 
957 1450.3601the route1451.4020 
959 1451.8562that I took,1452.8003 
961 1453.3602as far as uh, going to1455.4308 
963 1456.9671college was concerned.1458.7516 
965 1459.2904I went to1460.4214 
967 1462.3317uh, a college here in the city, and I think uh, the only thing about that that I would change1467.4024 
969 1468.1238would be that I would have gone out of town.1470.4516 
970DCA_int_051471.0082/Mm-hm./1471.3511
971DCA_se3_ag2_f_021471.2887But1471.5915
972 1472.0858I don't think I would exchange the experi- the life experiences1476.5776
974 1477.8645that1478.1718 
976 1478.5681I probably would have missed1480.6699 
978 1481.4881by continuing straight through school.1483.7279 
979DCA_int_051483.7448Mm-hm.1484.1368
981 1485.8475Um,1486.3907 
983 1486.6702wait a minute.1487.4672 
985 1490.1434Um, you're in school now, right?1491.7776 
986DCA_se3_ag2_f_021492.2763Yes, uh-huh.1493.1391
987DCA_int_051493.1257What do you um, plan1494.3280
988 1494.5818to do when you finish?1495.6238
989DCA_se3_ag2_f_021497.7612Well uh, <sigh>1499.4967
991 1501.8479I plan to teach the slow learner for awhile,1504.0832 
992DCA_int_051504.6432/Mm-hm./1505.3289
993DCA_se3_ag2_f_021506.5401and then after that I'm not quite sure because there's so many things that I am interested in1512.1318
995 1513.0714as far as helping the so called1515.6096 
997 1515.7688underprivileged child.1517.4653 
998DCA_int_051517.7102Mm-hm.1518.2401
999DCA_se3_ag2_f_021519.6205And uh,1520.4309
1001 1521.3961I think um,1522.5227 
1003 1523.5068I have a sort of idea of overturning the system, which I probably will have to get out of my mind. [You know. <laugh>]1530.0514 
1004DCA_int_051528.8180[<laugh> Aw.]1531.8059
1005DCA_se3_ag2_f_021530.3542[But I- I just feel that it's] necessary, and I feel that there is nothing, absolutely nothing1536.1610
1006 1536.5293that can be done1537.6202
1008 1538.4251until the entire educational system in Washington DC is completely destroyed and rebuilt.1545.1078 
1009DCA_int_051545.4240Mm-hm.1545.9539
1010DCA_se3_ag2_f_021546.1320Now that may [sound]-1547.3298
1011DCA_int_051546.8533[Mm. <laugh>]1550.1663
1012DCA_se3_ag2_f_021547.6281[That may sound rather extreme.]1550.2808
1013DCA_int_051550.6372Aw.1551.0380
1014DCA_se3_ag2_f_021551.3319But um,1552.1824
1016 1552.4273[this is just the way I feel.]1554.0382 
1017DCA_int_051552.4584[Sounds like you /believe in/ Stokely Carmichael's] black [power <laugh>]1557.5247
1018DCA_se3_ag2_f_021555.1806[<laugh>]1557.4980
1019 1558.3975This is [purely] personal [uh],1560.7753
1020DCA_int_051558.9096[Aw.]1559.3059
1022 1560.0807[<laugh>]1561.0381 
1023DCA_se3_ag2_f_021561.2106because I have been on both sides of the fence I know exactly what goes on1565.7437
1025 1566.2335in the public schools here in the DC- in DC.1568.9531 
1027 1569.6210Um,1570.2222 
1029 1572.0033from the standpoint of a student1573.8146 
1030DCA_int_051574.1174Mm-hm.1574.5805
1031DCA_se3_ag2_f_021574.8432as well as that uh, of an insider1577.6218
1032DCA_int_051577.8444Mm-hm.1578.2897
1033DCA_se3_ag2_f_021578.4667in quotes.1579.3618
1034DCA_int_051579.5265<laugh>1580.8980
1036 1581.4190Um,1582.0424 
1038 1582.8840when you were younger what did you wanna be when you grew up?1585.4210 
1039DCA_se3_ag2_f_021587.0820Well I fluctuated um, back and forth between wanting to be a teacher and a nurse.1591.9523
1040DCA_int_051592.4065Hm.1592.9587
1041DCA_se3_ag2_f_021593.0967Then um,1594.0897
1043 1596.8672<ts> I decided when I got older that both positions were confining.1600.7617 
1045 1601.1275I needed something that I could move around in.1603.5499 
1047 1605.1084And uh,1605.8343 
1049 1606.5734when I was in high school, I did volunteer work at /RD-WORK-2/'s Hospital.1610.7670 
1050DCA_int_051611.5996Hm.1611.9871
1051DCA_se3_ag2_f_021612.6583And um,1613.3574
1053 1613.6513this was more or less to uh,1615.6373 
1055 1618.4371<ts>1618.6197 
1057 1619.0382find out whether um,1620.5032 
1059 1620.8283I could make it as a nurse1622.5382 
1060DCA_int_051623.2239Mm.1623.7093
1061DCA_se3_ag2_f_021623.7093because this had become pretty strong by the time I'd reached high school- my desire to become [a nurse.]1628.7756
1062DCA_int_051628.2012[Mm-hm.]1628.6910
1063DCA_se3_ag2_f_021630.1104And um,1630.8406
1065 1631.2815I think I'll always wonder whether I did the right thing by n-1634.3005 
1067 1634.8037uh, not going into nursing.1636.7085 
1068DCA_int_051636.7797/Are you really/?1637.4565
1070 1638.5074I think they need someone <clears throat> that1640.6582 
1072 1641.2860has your qualities as understanding and all. Some of these nurses are real- Well I can't say the word on the tape. [<laugh>]1649.9263 
1073DCA_se3_ag2_f_021647.1973[<laugh> Yeah, I've- I've] had a little difficulty /in- [anyway/]1651.7828
1074DCA_int_051651.4650Aw.1651.9540
1075DCA_se3_ag2_f_021652.3493[with that too.]1653.4167
1076DCA_int_051652.3626[On you're um,]1653.4167
1077 1653.7865job, would you describe what you um,1655.6166
1079 1655.9060do in a day's work?1657.0949 
1080DCA_se3_ag2_f_021657.6827<ts>1657.8787
1082 1658.5900Paperwork. [<laugh>]1661.1819 
1083DCA_int_051659.6142[<laugh>]1662.0766
1084DCA_se3_ag2_f_021662.4106No, well truthfully speaking, um,1664.6727
1086 1666.8758my job uh,1668.1226 
1088 1669.6588is basically one of1671.4468 
1090 1671.6146uh,1672.0578 
1092 1672.6055keeping1673.3892 
1094 1673.7588a child in school.1674.9656 
1096 1675.5211Supposedly at all costs.1677.5427 
1098 1678.3576Uh, we have some children who stay out of school because um,1681.8442 
1100 1682.8592<ts>1682.9478 
1102 1684.1140they don't have proper clothing1685.8952 
1104 1686.2292to wear.1686.8748 
1106 1687.6842We have some who stay out of school because they hate the teachers.1690.8502 
1108 1692.0346We have uh,1693.0009 
1110 1694.4515some who stay out of school because they find more interesting st-1697.1321 
1112 1697.4661things- more interesting things in the street to do.1700.3594 
1113DCA_int_051700.4707Mm-hm.1700.9605
1114DCA_se3_ag2_f_021701.8377And I think all this revolves around motivation.1705.1050
1115DCA_int_051705.0249/inaudible/ (whispered)1705.8442
1116DCA_se3_ag2_f_021705.8219True,1706.3162
1117 1706.7303and this comes from the home.1708.2310
1119 1708.7920So,1709.3353 
1121 1709.5045we try to work with the families1711.8857 
1123 1712.4690as well as working with the child in school.1714.8691 
1124DCA_int_051715.5905Mm.1716.0580
1126 1717.1435[/inaudible/]1719.4278 
1127DCA_se3_ag2_f_021717.3884[And um-]1717.8559
1128 1719.7707Yes, it could be a lot better1721.5474
1129DCA_int_051721.5863Mm-hm.1722.1162
1130DCA_se3_ag2_f_021722.3745uh, if it were not for the system holding it back.1725.3268
1132 1726.0838[This is another] reason why I say the system needs to be destroyed.1729.2843 
1133DCA_int_051726.2797[/Mm-hm./]1726.7472
1134 1729.4580Mm-hm.1729.9300
1135DCA_se3_ag2_f_021730.5445Um,1731.0120
1137 1732.6774but I think uh, the aims of the program1734.9428 
1139 1736.4212are very good.1737.2182 
1140DCA_int_051737.3474Mm-hm.1737.8862
1141DCA_se3_ag2_f_021738.3894And uh, as long as we have people who1740.8106
1143 1741.7680um, are understanding, or at least who attempt to understand the problems that these kids have,1747.2662 
1145 1747.6892the program will be a success.1749.3902 
1146DCA_int_051749.4437Mm-hm.1749.8400
1147DCA_se3_ag2_f_021750.1784Um,1750.6371
1149 1752.5373some people have no- As a matter of fact,1754.7549 
1151 1755.1824the majority of the people have no idea what these kids go through before they even get to school.1760.2361 
1152DCA_int_051760.6004Mm.1760.9923
1153DCA_se3_ag2_f_021761.3129Some of them uh, have been up all night.1764.1750
1155 1764.5179Some of them have no place to sleep period.1767.1139 
1157 1767.4612[Some of] them have uh,1768.9875 
1158DCA_int_051767.5447[/Oh./]1767.8253
1159DCA_se3_ag2_f_021770.5950um,1771.1872
1161 1771.5167no food to eat.1772.7813 
1162DCA_int_051773.2612Mm-hm.1773.8000
1163DCA_se3_ag2_f_021773.7465And if it were not for the free lunches at school, and the free breakfasts, they would have nothing to eat all day long.1779.7167
1164 1780.2422And it's pretty difficult for a child to learn1782.5889
1166 1784.1874um,1784.6416 
1168 1785.2951in a um,1786.1055 
1170 1786.2881classroom situation, as it is here,1789.1469 
1172 1790.5484or anywhere else for that [matter, on] an empty stomach.1793.4027 
1173DCA_int_051791.7863[Yeah.]1792.2005
1174 1793.4250Yeah, that's true.1794.3913
1176 1794.8766[Mm-hm.]1795.3041 
1177DCA_se3_ag2_f_021795.0815[Uh,] this is one of man's basic needs-1797.6659
1178DCA_int_051797.5963[Mm-hm.]1798.1351
1179DCA_se3_ag2_f_021797.7405[food.]1798.2375
1180 1798.6204And you'd be surprised at how many children1800.8157
1182 1801.2254don't1801.6662 
1184 1802.0970have the bare necessities as far as food is concerned.1805.2230 
1185DCA_int_051805.6326Mm.1806.1135
1187 1807.9114Um,1808.5170 
1189 1809.2428now this is going completely off the subject, but um,1811.9101 
1191 1812.5424how does your family celebrate1814.1087 
1193 1814.3670holidays, like Christmas and Easter.1816.5712 
1194DCA_se3_ag2_f_021819.2017Christmas? Or [any holiday?]1820.8671
1195DCA_int_051819.9855[Mm-hm.] Yeah, well any holiday, and then, you know.1822.8843
1196DCA_se3_ag2_f_021824.2825Well um,1825.1107
1198 1825.8265in different ways.1826.9798 
1199DCA_int_051826.0581<coughs>1826.8240
1200DCA_se3_ag2_f_021827.1624Um,1827.5765
1202 1829.1573whatever1830.0390 
1204 1830.8305we choose to do on a holiday, we usually do as a- as a family group,1835.0696 
1205DCA_int_051836.3332<clears throat>1836.7384
1206DCA_se3_ag2_f_021836.9165which is also, getting back to the other subject, rare1840.6747
1208 1840.9419among uh,1841.9391 
1210 1842.6017most of the children that I deal with every day.1845.0286 
1211DCA_int_051845.0241Mm-hm.1845.5585
1212DCA_se3_ag2_f_021845.8212Because there is no real uh, sense of family grouping.1849.6496
1214 1851.9072But um,1852.5350 
1216 1854.2528now1854.7559 
1218 1855.1879uh, say Christmas day1856.9824 
1220 1857.7750we always spend together.1859.3246 
1222 1859.9291The rest of the holiday we might do1861.5811 
1224 1861.7726whatever we choose to do.1863.1218 
1226 1864.3464Easter Sunday,1865.4140 
1228 1866.2645we spend together.1867.4267 
1229DCA_int_051867.8497Mm-hm.1868.4820
1230DCA_se3_ag2_f_021868.5577Um,1869.1188
1232 1871.1081what other holiday is there?1872.4345 
1233DCA_int_051873.3657Christmas and Easter, [/unintelligible/. <laugh>] Aw.1883.0842
1234DCA_se3_ag2_f_021874.4211<laugh>1874.9198
1236 1875.2938[E- Even Halloween! You know, we spend together. <laugh>]1882.2693 
1237DCA_int_051883.5829Mm-kay. Um,1884.7629
1239 1885.6517well you're a little old for this [question, but I ask anyway (laughing).]1888.7007 
1240DCA_se3_ag2_f_021887.0607[<laugh>]1888.4868
1241DCA_int_051889.1707<laugh> What would you like for Christmas this year? <laugh>1891.7279
1242DCA_se3_ag2_f_021893.5227Let's see.1894.3492
1244 1894.6862Um,1895.1270 
1246 1896.3287I think a million dollars. [<laugh>]1902.2623 
1247DCA_int_051898.6541[/That's beautiful./ <laugh>]1902.2591
1248DCA_se3_ag2_f_021903.1828[Yeah.]1903.6657
1249DCA_int_051903.2152[Oh], can't beat that.1904.5441
1250DCA_se3_ag2_f_021905.1461But uh, being [realistic] um-1907.5964
1251DCA_int_051906.4653[<sigh>]1906.7894
1252DCA_se3_ag2_f_021910.3311What do I want for Christmas this year?1912.4014
1254 1912.5083I think I might like a car.1914.7576 
1255DCA_int_051915.5938Mm, that's [realistic], huh? <laugh>1919.1907
1256DCA_se3_ag2_f_021916.2680[Because]-1916.7315
1258 1917.3594[Yes. You know, that- that's] probably uh, more attainable than a million dollars [right now.]1922.6409 
1259DCA_int_051922.0193[<laugh>]1923.1375
1260DCA_se3_ag2_f_021923.7015But um,1924.5247
1262 1924.9785I need one for my work1926.2255 
1264 1926.4783because um,1927.2724 
1266 1928.3095we have to travel back and forth, particularly at the school that I'm working.1932.0028 
1268 1933.1056Um,1933.5982 
1270 1935.1791the children live1936.0801 
1272 1936.5047in various1937.2760 
1274 1937.8554areas of the city,1938.9185 
1275DCA_int_051939.1583Mm.1939.5148
1276DCA_se3_ag2_f_021939.3755which means that it's difficult1940.9571
1277 1941.2164to get transportation back and forth.1943.1830
1278DCA_int_051943.5103Yeah.1943.9770
1280 1945.0887Um,1945.8634 
1282 1947.4313could you tell me about the best Christmas present you ever got?1950.1668 
1284 1952.1819<laugh> [A doll baby.] <laugh>1955.5972 
1285DCA_se3_ag2_f_021953.2158[<snort>]1953.9645
1286 1956.1191Uh,1956.6214
1288 1957.2859best Christmas present that I ever got.1959.7288 
1290 1963.2382I really can't remember. Maybe none of them really impressed me that [much.]1967.3057 
1291DCA_int_051967.1072[Oh]- ha!1967.6874
1292 1967.9661I'm sure your parents would love to hear /that/.1969.8318
1293DCA_se3_ag2_f_021969.4202[Yeah,] I'm [sure they would.]1970.7944
1294DCA_int_051969.9744[<laugh>]1970.7976
1295 1971.7400Um,1972.2391
1297 1973.0818were you ever in a situation where you thought you might die1975.4989 
1299 1975.6771or you might be killed?1976.8601 
1300DCA_se3_ag2_f_021977.7903Yes.1978.0691
1302 1978.8048[But I'm not] gonna tell you about it. [<laugh>]1983.0174 
1303DCA_int_051978.8081[Oh.]1979.1451
1305 1980.0259[/Oh come on!/ <laugh>]1985.4572 
1306DCA_se3_ag2_f_021985.6517<laugh>1986.5786
1307DCA_int_051987.3297That's not fair. <laugh>1989.2063
1309 1990.4151[/unintelligible/ <laugh>]1991.9962 
1310DCA_se3_ag2_f_021990.4248[/unintelligible/ (laughing)]1992.4667
1311 1993.0534Well I'll tell you about one of them.1995.1787
1312DCA_int_051995.2792Mm-hm.1995.7394
1313DCA_se3_ag2_f_021995.7816<ts> Um, <laugh>1997.5739
1315 1999.1256this summer I was in an automobile accident uh, coming back from uh-2003.8989 
1317 2006.8443coming back from Ohio.2008.5459 
1318DCA_int_052009.5150Mm-hm.2009.9104
1319DCA_se3_ag2_f_022010.2920Um,2010.8430
1321 2012.0195a man side swiped the car on the highway.2014.7996 
1322DCA_int_052015.2436/Mm-hm/.2015.7622
1323DCA_se3_ag2_f_022015.8497Um,2016.3489
1325 2017.3957and uh,2018.1736 
1327 2018.4386what happened?2019.3169 
1329 2019.6475Oh,2019.9522 
1331 2020.0948uh, the driver swerved2021.8126 
1333 2022.2695to avoid hitting the car,2023.8342 
1335 2024.7417and um,2025.4385 
1337 2025.8761we hit the uh-2027.0494 
1339 2028.6367They call them medians2029.8618 
1341 2030.0984or something, [in the middle] of the [highway.]2032.0293 
1342DCA_int_052030.4841[Oh, yeah.]2031.1388
1344 2031.4978[Mm-hm.]2031.9905 
1345DCA_se3_ag2_f_022032.7975And this- At the uh, s- rate of speed at2035.2704
1347 2035.4965the car was going,2036.5304 
1349 2037.1300um,2037.5157 
1351 2037.8625it turned it a-2038.6534 
1353 2039.0650it turned it around completely.2040.8695 
1355 2041.0704And uh, the car flipped on the other side of the uh, median.2044.2978 
1356DCA_int_052043.7468[Good] heavens.2044.9687
1357DCA_se3_ag2_f_022045.0335And we were going back in the way that we came on the wrong side of the [highway (laughing).]2049.5119
1358DCA_int_052048.7762[Oh! Ha.]2049.5962
1359DCA_se3_ag2_f_022050.0694And there was a2051.4533
1361 2052.8235ten ton truck bearing down on us you know.2055.3386 
1362DCA_int_052056.1999[Mm!]2056.4949
1363DCA_se3_ag2_f_022056.3555[But] it just so happened that uh, there was no car2059.7262
1364 2060.0625in the outside lane and the truck swerved2062.8337
1365DCA_int_052063.0378[Uh-huh.]2063.5046
1366DCA_se3_ag2_f_022063.0573[and missed] us.2063.9713
1367DCA_int_052064.9104[/Oh my goodness./]2065.9406
1368DCA_se3_ag2_f_022065.2118[But otherwise] we would have been crushed.2066.9717
1369DCA_int_052067.1338Mm-hm.2067.8015
1371 2068.7244Um,2069.3013 
1373 2069.5379sometimes people say that whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. /How do you/ think about that?2074.0260 
1374DCA_se3_ag2_f_022078.6341I don't know whether I can totally agree with that2080.9547
1375DCA_int_052082.2946Mm.2082.6026
1376DCA_se3_ag2_f_022082.5582because I feel that uh,2084.1691
1377 2088.1386we2088.9706
1379 2090.3645make2091.0548 
1381 2093.0578some of the things happen to us2095.0049 
1383 2095.6240that happen2096.2365 
1385 2096.6287to us.2097.2510 
1386DCA_int_052097.4098Mm-hm.2097.9859
1387DCA_se3_ag2_f_022099.1657And um,2099.8496
1389 2102.4805I don't know. I- I- I think I'm a little divided on this point really2106.0425 
1391 2106.3172because in a sense I believe in predestiny2109.2666 
1392DCA_int_052109.7106Mm-hm.2110.1676
1393DCA_se3_ag2_f_022110.8637and then in another sense I don't.2112.8245
1394DCA_int_052113.6672Mm-hm.2114.1599
1395DCA_se3_ag2_f_022115.0115Or I don't believe in it completely, I'll say that.2117.8150
1396DCA_int_052117.9860Mm-hm.2118.5208
1397DCA_se3_ag2_f_022121.0229Because I think I have been in some situations that I could have avoided2124.6133
1399 2124.7559by acting in another manner.2126.3991 
1400DCA_int_052126.8456Mm-hm.2127.4030
1401DCA_se3_ag2_f_022128.0869[So.]2128.5698
1402DCA_int_052128.0999[Yeah], I see what you're saying.2129.5859