LineSpeakerSt TimeContentEn Time
1DCA_int_050.4330Okay,1.0506
3 1.3895could you tell me what kind of games you played when you were younger?3.8266 
4DCA_se3_ag2_m_024.3991<ts>4.4972
6 5.0644Hopscotch,5.9621 
8 7.3393kick the can.8.2237 
10 10.5027<ts>10.6047 
12 11.3070Uh,12.1039 
14 13.2605hide and seek,14.2942 
16 15.8503devil and the pitchfork.17.0967 
18 23.0459Marbles.23.7312 
19DCA_int_0527.5424Mm think that's enough.28.8070
21 29.1431Um, how did you play kick the can?30.6016 
22DCA_se3_ag2_m_0232.6105Well it was not33.3259
24 33.4439generally played with34.4594 
26 34.8956girls and boys.36.1442 
28 37.6126<ts>37.6846 
30 38.2559And one person39.3924 
32 40.6739was considered it.41.5623 
34 41.8104I don't-42.2066 
36 42.3547<clears throat> I don't recall how43.4632 
38 44.1499he was chosen to be it.45.2945 
40 47.1914But at any rate,47.8849 
42 49.1655this person that was it,50.1699 
44 50.3020his job50.9703 
46 52.6049was to go out and try to find everybody.54.4578 
48 55.1079The game is basically like hide and seek.57.0288 
50 58.9755Based on that principle60.2341 
52 61.1845and um,61.8648 
54 62.9391the person who was it he would have to go out64.4959 
56 64.6439and try to find the people who were hiding.66.3647 
58 68.1720Upon finding one of the persons who was- who was hiding,71.4813 
60 72.3083you would have to run back to the base.74.0337 
62 75.5196And the base was where the can was.77.1170 
64 78.1569Tap the can three times79.5209 
66 80.8479until where he s-81.7524 
68 81.9364/it seems/ the cert-83.1978 
70 83.6504the person and84.6029 
72 86.1076that was it.86.8039 
74 89.6356Now if the person90.5120 
76 91.8327didn't beat92.5820 
78 93.4078the person who was it back to the can,95.5968 
80 97.3601then he would be in jail.98.6047 
82 98.8488We put him in jail.99.6451 
84 102.2396However if the person103.4613 
86 104.3537beat the-104.8380 
88 105.1701the person who was it back to the can who was able to kick the can,108.1385 
90 109.0103he could run and hide again.110.2869 
92 111.0793And all those persons who had been put in jail113.2403 
94 114.6234uh,115.2514 
96 115.7319were able to116.5562 
98 116.6723run out of jail117.6007 
100 117.7448and hide again all over.118.9670 
102 120.4319So120.8921 
104 120.9881it- it- it could be a pretty122.7425 
106 124.3127rough spot for a person who was it who126.1696 
108 126.3576couldn't run too fast.127.6222 
109DCA_int_05127.7601<laugh>128.7548
110DCA_se3_ag2_m_02129.1448Uh,129.6834
112 130.7175and you couldn't go too far off-132.4041 
114 132.6716off from your post133.8260 
116 134.7144because if you did,135.7829 
118 136.0510maybe somebody was in the other direction.137.9799 
120 138.6700They would come and kick the can.139.9807 
122 141.9374And uh, <clears throat>142.9058 
124 144.7547the game was um,145.8952 
126 147.2663generally played at night a- as I remember.149.6009 
127DCA_int_05150.3117Mm.150.8063
128DCA_se3_ag2_m_02151.0132Uh,151.5532
130 153.3001a lot of times you never found people.154.9494 
131DCA_int_05155.3170<laugh>156.1974
132DCA_se3_ag2_m_02156.9830as I said it was157.7994
134 158.0235played with boys and girls.159.3021 
136 159.9502But um,160.6929 
138 162.5200it was a game where163.5360 
140 163.8126most of the time fellas would try to /grand/166.0576 
142 167.1926in that167.6299 
144 168.0410they could become the hero and save everybody.170.3661 
146 170.7961That is, give everybody a chance to172.2287 
148 172.7868run and hide again.173.5872 
150 175.0799And175.5012 
152 175.8202the way that176.2722 
154 176.7625um,177.2947 
156 178.8314another person became it180.1601 
158 181.4265was that if the person who was it183.0312 
160 183.5995caught everybody,184.4995 
162 185.4495the first person who had gotten caught187.0389 
164 187.4723he would be the person who was it.188.6608 
165DCA_int_05189.2971Oh but he had to catch everybody [else first?]191.2225
166DCA_se3_ag2_m_02190.7498[He had to catch] everybody first.191.9624
167DCA_int_05192.4930/inaudible/ beat you?194.4644
169 195.3744Um, how'd you play devil and the pitchfork?197.3824 
170DCA_se3_ag2_m_02200.1830Uh,200.6364
172 202.5059everybody sat down203.5904 
174 204.2039on the step or something.205.3552 
176 206.8258And one person would say something like uh,208.8239 
178 209.8764<clears throat> devil and the pitchfork-211.1844 
180 211.7172fork, riding through the air,213.3500 
182 216.4418and had something to do with colors.218.1651 
184 219.7298You had to name some colors, I don't remember I just remember that part.222.3895 
185DCA_int_05222.5815Mm-hm.223.2298
187 224.0102I see.224.5665 
188DCA_se3_ag2_m_02224.5264Then you had to guess colors.225.6990
189DCA_int_05226.3439Mm-hm.227.0242
191 228.4627Um,229.3871 
193 229.7793how'd you play um, marbles?231.3939 
194DCA_se3_ag2_m_02232.8946Well,233.3692
196 234.8035you drew a box in the dirt236.2561 
198 237.6752and you had238.7717 
200 239.2119X number of people playing.240.5051 
202 241.7177And they decided242.7017 
204 244.1206how many marbles they wanted to play for and each person put in246.6538 
206 247.5046that number of marbles,248.5806 
208 249.2974that is, put 'em in the box.250.5220 
210 251.3424Then they251.8666 
212 252.1308drew another line253.2587 
214 253.6265oh,254.1558 
216 254.7270an X255.1270 
218 255.6394n- number of feet away from the box.257.9457 
220 259.6585And260.0547 
222 260.2166the person who261.0610 
224 261.4612/the- that- that-/262.4136 
226 262.6177<clears throat> well,263.1179 
228 263.3100once you got to that line,264.4847 
230 265.1327well you shot from that line.266.2713 
232 266.9535The person who came closest to the box268.8744 
234 270.9498uh,271.5698 
236 272.4145was the person who went first.273.7158 
237DCA_int_05274.4138[Mm-hm.]274.9178
238DCA_se3_ag2_m_02274.7380[And] um,275.1502
239 276.0506you determine276.8550
241 277.2591who would go when by278.4677 
243 278.9177who was closest to the box.280.4064 
244DCA_int_05281.0027I see.281.7030
246 282.6693Um,283.1735 
248 284.3381you don't remember a- um, do you remember any of the rhymes that you used to say when you were young?288.1007 
249DCA_se3_ag2_m_02293.2494<ts>293.3415
251 294.0668Jack be nimble, Jack be quick,295.6808 
253 296.3091Jack jumped over the candlestick.297.8377 
254DCA_int_05298.2798Mm, you remember any others?300.0638
255DCA_se3_ag2_m_02302.2595Little Miss Muffet,303.1448
257 303.6041sat on her tuffet,304.6654 
259 305.0786eating her curds and wheys.306.5273 
261 307.8245Along came a spider,309.5213 
263 310.5463and sat down beside her,311.9950 
265 313.5342and frightened Miss Muffet away.314.8301 
266DCA_int_05315.1589<laugh> <sigh> Oh, you remember any others?319.4155
267DCA_se3_ag2_m_02320.7325Um,321.3768
269 324.4687hi diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle, the cow jumped over the moon.327.9140 
271 330.0885Um,330.7285 
273 331.3755that's all I think I remember of that one.332.7849 
274DCA_int_05333.1443Mm-hm.333.7766
275DCA_se3_ag2_m_02333.9607Um,334.5370
277 337.4075Jack and Jill went up the hill338.7580 
279 339.8665to fetch a pail water,341.2362 
281 341.5611Jack fell down and broke his crown,343.3179 
283 344.1703Jill came tumbling after, was a something like that.346.5594 
284DCA_int_05347.0180Yeah.347.5820
286 347.8024Do you remember any of the ones that you said when you were jumping rope?349.9714 
288 350.5449Or playing351.5582 
290 352.0176you know, outdoor games?353.3442 
291DCA_se3_ag2_m_02359.5887Mm no.360.2647
292DCA_int_05362.4005Do you watch much TV now?363.7405
293DCA_se3_ag2_m_02364.1853No.364.6399
294DCA_int_05365.6552Oh um,366.3565
296 366.5836when you do watch what are some of your favorite shows?368.8621 
297DCA_se3_ag2_m_02369.1986Outcasts, FBI,370.9973
299 372.1898Mission Impossible,373.2280 
301 375.3193Honeymooners.376.0916 
302DCA_int_05378.6426Mm.379.0801
304 380.4247Um, do you remember an episode in any of them that you can383.3060 
306 383.7126tell about?384.3820 
307DCA_se3_ag2_m_02385.3214Well it was was in- with The Honeymooners387.6707
309 389.4839where um,390.2002 
311 392.4391uh,392.9513 
313 393.8450Ralph had394.4716 
315 395.4817found some money396.4262 
317 397.2124that was counterfeit,398.0808 
319 399.1785but he didn't know it at the time.400.5465 
321 402.8974And he was going around splurging,405.1681 
323 406.6896and he had been warned by his wife408.5705 
325 409.9290<ts>409.9891 
327 410.0761Alice410.5763 
329 411.6488not to be too hasty in spending the money.413.7898 
331 415.3358But as usual Ralph416.5157 
333 417.3007was Ralph and418.1050 
335 418.6166he had to do his thing.419.6371 
337 421.1778And uh,421.9061 
339 422.6409he had Norton working for him,424.1875 
341 426.0517and Ralph went out and bought427.3090 
343 427.7444new furniture,428.7409 
345 429.9639new clothes, had a phone installed,432.5491 
347 433.2134he was giving away money.434.4881 
349 435.5049Had435.8329 
351 436.0251gotten his436.6011 
353 436.8215uh,437.4028 
355 438.0301mother-in-law on his side439.5308 
357 440.6491because she wanted some of the money.442.2018 
359 443.5997And uh,444.3000 
361 445.8866finally446.3972 
363 447.4913came into the light that448.5860 
365 449.2293the money was counterfeit.450.3979 
367 451.7345And uh,452.5625 
369 454.1670<ts>454.2631 
371 455.0504uh,455.6726 
373 457.7615some poli-458.3575 
375 458.6539well,458.9913 
377 459.2382Ralph thought the police were coming to get him,461.1569 
379 462.4381but462.6981 
381 463.1184instead some gangsters came,464.7512 
383 465.9564and knew th- and found out that he had the money.467.9345 
385 469.2071And uh,469.9324 
387 473.0227before the gangsters left that is,474.7715 
389 475.4736uh, police came476.6141 
391 477.9280and locked the gangsters up.479.1906 
392DCA_int_05480.2869Hm.480.5242
393DCA_se3_ag2_m_02480.8671And uh,481.6755
395 482.4639then Ralph had to-483.5026 
397 484.8662to uh,485.6266 
399 487.3846uh,487.9219 
401 489.0752satisfy his conscience.490.5979 
403 492.0966And he didn't know how to do that and493.9134 
405 495.1925his wife Alice was just496.4410 
407 496.5531her usual self,497.7455 
409 498.7005placing more burden on his conscience.500.5614 
411 501.8940And he was trying to502.8316 
413 503.4559tell her he was sorry but he didn't really know how.505.6690 
415 507.0800And uh,507.8284 
417 510.0993it was funny because he had to give everything back that he had512.7245 
419 513.3408bought513.7569 
421 514.3892and uh,515.0279 
423 516.6801the phone hadn't been working properly and518.8508 
425 520.3550the phone rang and521.3355 
427 521.7855the lady522.3538 
429 522.8460operator asked him uh, was the phone working alright,525.3736 
431 527.1418he said that it was.528.2636 
433 529.8243Then he530.1903 
435 530.5504swallowed a couple of hard times and said,532.7515 
437 533.5918would you come and take it out tomorrow?535.3326 
439 538.0163And uh,538.8416 
441 541.2430his wife Alice told him542.6004 
443 543.0783that543.4210 
445 544.5550not to worry about everything you know.546.2684 
447 548.1333Said uh,548.8896 
449 551.2731you can give most of the stuff back.552.7651 
451 554.0476She said, but554.5850 
453 554.8600I don't know what you're gonna do about those clothes because you're the only elephant in New York. <laugh>559.1598 
454DCA_int_05559.4159<laugh>560.6045
456 562.5432Um, what school did you go to?564.4765 
457DCA_se3_ag2_m_02564.9061Cardozo.565.6945
458DCA_int_05565.8546Cardozo?566.4226
460 566.8977Um, could you tell me something about it, how'd you like it,569.4679 
462 569.7502the teachers, um-570.7782 
463DCA_se3_ag2_m_02571.9072Well,572.2979
465 574.0306I didn't574.5079 
467 575.0391particularly575.8697 
469 577.2939like it577.8702 
471 578.0183um,578.5553 
473 580.0672it was always like, congested.581.6245 
475 582.5416A lot of people running around583.9469 
477 585.2761with585.5521 
479 586.9260false values I guess you might say, not really knowing589.8794 
481 590.8177what they should be doing.592.0822 
483 593.1600And uh,593.8002 
485 595.4822I got caught up into it myself.597.1382 
487 599.3178One of the best parts about uh,601.0987 
489 601.8756high school was602.7930 
491 603.8217the sports part, you know.605.4625 
493 606.5648I liked to-607.1931 
495 607.5173I liked608.0999 
497 608.6378playing609.1445 
499 609.8676basketball, running track,611.5303 
501 612.9822football,613.7129 
503 615.1931baseball.615.8734 
504DCA_int_05617.6102I see, what did you study?618.9588
505DCA_se3_ag2_m_02619.6416What did I study?620.3602
506DCA_int_05620.4139Mm-hm.620.8621
507DCA_se3_ag2_m_02623.0992Well,623.5312
509 625.5113I had started to take uh, a uh,627.3713 
511 628.0645technical course.629.0778 
513 630.0793Because I knew that uh,631.5920 
515 632.7005my parents didn't have the money to send me to college.635.0816 
517 636.7854And uh,637.5137 
519 638.0900well I really never thought about going to college anyway.640.6713 
521 641.9702Fact I never thought I'd finish high school.644.0112 
523 645.7378So um,646.5978 
525 647.7397<ts>647.8238 
527 648.6311anyway, one of my teachers650.0605 
529 651.5829decided that I should652.6354 
531 653.3437change my-654.1339 
533 654.3540m- my major655.5314 
535 655.6907you know.656.0908 
536DCA_int_05656.2989Mm-hm.656.7949
537DCA_se3_ag2_m_02657.2126And uh,657.9489
539 658.4611take a658.9118 
541 659.5937college660.0857 
543 660.7040preparatory course.662.0406 
545 663.7934And uh,664.4978 
547 666.1483well,666.5045 
549 667.1368that's what I did.667.9448 
550DCA_int_05668.8754I [see.]669.6208
551DCA_se3_ag2_m_02669.3116[And]670.0170
552 670.6523the courses were related to uh,672.6732
554 674.3770preparing you for675.3855 
556 676.3059college.676.8459 
557DCA_int_05678.3000I see.679.0094
559 679.5806Uh, what did the kids do after school?681.5073 
561 682.2637/inaudible/683.3842 
562DCA_se3_ag2_m_02683.3602Do you mean at school?684.5848
563DCA_int_05684.9141No after school. Well, you know a- right after school when you fir- first came out or689.5129
565 690.2630you know when you were on your way home.691.8718 
566DCA_se3_ag2_m_02692.7906Oh.693.1668
568 694.2913Well,694.6873 
570 695.3838after you found out who was gonna fight696.9519 
572 697.9336who wasn't gonna fight,698.9816 
574 700.0210you try to find out701.0010 
576 701.9299where the, you know, the basketball game, who was gonna play basketball.705.1033 
578 705.9330And things like that.707.1943 
580 707.4921And if it were a Friday night where the party was.709.9255 
581DCA_int_05710.8497I see.711.6924
583 712.6529Um,713.3493 
585 715.0861did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot?717.0322 
586DCA_se3_ag2_m_02718.4911<ts>718.5661
588 718.9343No,719.4065 
590 719.6106not really.720.2669 
591DCA_int_05721.5555No?721.8877
592DCA_se3_ag2_m_02722.2016No.722.6338
593DCA_int_05723.0500Hm.723.6943
595 724.3986Did you um,725.2070 
597 725.5976ever have a teacher that you couldn't stand?727.2024 
598DCA_se3_ag2_m_02727.6065Plenty of them.728.2548
599DCA_int_05728.5350<laugh>729.2443
601 729.7728Could you tell us- tell me about one?731.4335 
602DCA_se3_ag2_m_02733.4985Well,734.0012
604 734.9616this one735.6099 
606 736.9764he was a man, he was very738.5491 
608 739.8617uh,740.4139 
610 741.6345sarcastic and he picked on people.743.5505 
612 744.6777And uh,745.3879 
614 747.4328he didn't really holler at you but749.0616 
616 750.2600he'd ask you to give book reports. <clears throat>752.3169 
618 754.0017And754.3937 
620 754.7359seems as if he had read every book that was out.756.8208 
622 758.1353And he expected you to be able to tell exactly what was in the story,761.5008 
624 762.5391and he would ask you763.3635 
626 764.1078what was the theme and765.3404 
628 766.2226what was the significance of this768.4077 
630 768.5575particular character,769.7922 
632 770.6225and all that type of stuff.771.9505 
634 772.8854And it would make me nervous,774.4640 
636 775.7947and it made everybody else nervous.777.2394 
638 778.0142Nobody wanted to give a book report.779.6429 
640 780.1231And he used to make girls cry.781.7445 
641DCA_int_05782.6275Mm.782.9345
643 783.6312Well do you think that um,785.1660 
645 785.5681this was fair, what he was trying to do?787.4388 
647 787.5588/What he was saying?/788.3376 
648DCA_se3_ag2_m_02790.4082I don't know.791.0055
650 792.9661Depends upon what his purpose was.794.6228 
652 796.3900I think that he could have done it another way.798.1908 
653DCA_int_05799.6379I see.800.3059
655 800.8545Do you remember your favorite teacher?802.3185 
656DCA_se3_ag2_m_02808.6703Yes.809.0743
657DCA_int_05809.9429/inaudible/811.8896
658DCA_se3_ag2_m_02812.7494She was a woman in the third grade.814.4388
660 816.9948<ts>817.0909 
662 817.1739She was real nice.818.0579 
664 819.1240Uh,819.6323 
666 821.0908The main thing that stands out in my mind is she was pretty.823.4481 
667DCA_int_05824.0333<laugh>824.8857
668DCA_se3_ag2_m_02824.8977And all the other teachers was pretty- you know, pretty sad.827.3669
669DCA_int_05827.8071Mm-hm.828.3924
670DCA_se3_ag2_m_02829.0461And uh,829.7408
672 832.1195I expected her to be833.5115 
674 834.5070not so nice because she was pretty I guess.836.8561 
676 837.9286And uh,838.6868 
678 839.8033she was just real friendly with the students.841.6126 
679DCA_int_05842.6985Mm, was she a good teacher um, in the classroom do you remember?846.0800
680DCA_se3_ag2_m_02846.9330No I just remember her.848.1610
681DCA_int_05848.8844Oh I see.850.1457
683 851.3667Uh, is there a group of kids uh- not kids now but uh, a group of people that you hang around with?856.2148 
684DCA_se3_ag2_m_02857.3753No.857.9687
685DCA_int_05859.0980No?859.5382
686DCA_se3_ag2_m_02859.6822I've left that bag.860.9588
687DCA_int_05861.7552Oh well when you were younger was there a group that you hung around with?864.8464
688DCA_se3_ag2_m_02865.2786Yeah.865.7280
689DCA_int_05866.4610Well what were they like?867.4037
691 868.4539What [did you do?]869.3433 
692DCA_se3_ag2_m_02868.8181[Tough guys.]869.7105
693DCA_int_05871.1318<laugh>871.9398
695 872.9591What type of things did you do?874.3077 
696DCA_se3_ag2_m_02876.6780Well,877.0700
698 878.6029parties,879.4309 
699DCA_int_05881.6267/inaudible/883.0947
701 885.2188/So you were saying-/ you were telling me about the um, people that you hung around with.888.4003 
702DCA_se3_ag2_m_02889.6821Well we went to parties and890.9187
704 891.8591hung out on the corner,892.8614 
706 894.2220played pinball machines.895.5666 
708 897.8301And898.3303 
710 898.9306things of that nature.899.7790 
711DCA_int_05901.6971Well what were they like? Um, when you said tough guys /?/905.4967
712DCA_se3_ag2_m_02908.4051Uh,908.7532
714 910.0248<ts> Liked to fight.910.7942 
716 912.1326Liked a lot of excitement, that's what it was.914.0175 
717DCA_int_05914.7538[Mm-hm.]915.3861
718DCA_se3_ag2_m_02915.0900[And] uh,915.6943
719 916.5347always trying to do something917.7960
721 918.0812for excitement.918.9176 
722DCA_int_05919.4498Were these um, kids in your neighborhood or were they-921.7835
723DCA_se3_ag2_m_02921.8916Neighborhood.922.5291
724DCA_int_05922.7452Neighborhood?923.4078
726 924.5022<ts>924.6082 
728 925.1165Um,925.8644 
730 926.3086what-926.6113 
732 927.1610In this group was um, there anyone that seemed to be a leader that930.2917 
734 930.9400everyone seemed to listen to?932.2480 
735DCA_se3_ag2_m_02932.6912Yeah.933.1366
736DCA_int_05933.5877And who was that? Do you remember?935.0083
737DCA_se3_ag2_m_02935.1684/Hawk/.935.5258
738DCA_int_05936.5829Um, why did937.6002
740 938.0435this person seem to be the leader?939.7233 
741DCA_se3_ag2_m_02940.4431He was the baddest and the biggest.941.9998
742DCA_int_05942.2639<laugh>943.1363
744 944.8790I assume he could beat everybody else.946.6318 
745DCA_se3_ag2_m_02946.6438Right.946.9959
746DCA_int_05949.0175Um,949.7415
748 950.1540um, are there any people, one in your group now952.7964 
750 953.5106you know-953.9388 
752 954.4270you know I'm sure you have several /inaudible/ friends or whatever.956.7441 
754 957.1781Do any of the people speak a foreign language naturally, you know as their native tongue?960.7958 
755DCA_se3_ag2_m_02960.7558No.961.1158
756DCA_int_05961.6574No, are there any whites in your group?963.3414
757DCA_se3_ag2_m_02963.5155No.963.8836
758DCA_int_05969.9895If you want- If someone new971.6463
760 972.1517came into town973.1362 
762 973.6484and they wanted to be a good friend of yours, what would they have to do?976.6372 
764 977.5733And what would they have to be like?978.9179 
765DCA_se3_ag2_m_02986.6645Uh,987.3045
767 988.4271well I don't like squares.989.8478 
768DCA_int_05990.9603What's a square?991.8499
769DCA_se3_ag2_m_02993.6028Someone who994.3614
771 996.1898really isn't aware997.1742 
773 997.7345what's going on.998.5949 
774DCA_int_051002.7559You mean1003.2841
776 1003.8176what's going on-1004.6136 
778 1005.7043as far as you're concerned, what's going on in the world or what?1008.3815 
779DCA_se3_ag2_m_021008.8577What's going on1009.7981
781 1010.0801basically in uh- in this particular environment not necessarily in the world.1013.8070 
782DCA_int_051014.7035I see.1015.3478
783DCA_se3_ag2_m_021015.3678Knowing how to cope with uh,1017.0264
785 1017.5706everyday situations.1018.9519 
786DCA_int_051019.8196Mm-hm.1020.4159
788 1021.8218Well would this person have to do anythi- any particular thing1024.9090 
790 1025.3773to become /friends ??/1026.5519 
791DCA_se3_ag2_m_021028.3679Mm,1029.1745
793 1030.0246not particularly.1031.0691 
795 1032.7363Uh,1033.3246 
797 1034.1169we'd have to have certain things in common obviously.1036.3632 
798DCA_int_051037.5616[Mm-hm.]1038.2082
799DCA_se3_ag2_m_021038.0218[But] beyond that uh, I would say no1040.7871
800 1040.9191he'd have to be a1041.5846
802 1042.5211pretty uh,1043.1691 
804 1043.6456reliable person.1044.7176 
805DCA_int_051045.6363Mm.1045.9125
806DCA_se3_ag2_m_021045.8623Trustworthy.1046.6048
807DCA_int_051048.2954Um, when you were younger what did you want to be when you grew up?1051.1133
808DCA_se3_ag2_m_021053.9752An architect.1054.6402
810 1055.7127<clears throat>1055.9848 
811DCA_int_051058.7605Um,1059.3565
813 1061.5670well what made you1062.2873 
815 1062.5967change your mind?1063.4647 
817 1063.6932Or why did you change your mind?1065.0778 
818DCA_se3_ag2_m_021067.9244Well,1068.4058
820 1071.5451I just realized it wasn't for me1073.3459 
822 1074.2263uh,1074.6865 
824 1075.6968when I started taking drafting.1077.4595 
826 1081.5213I didn't do too well in drafting.1083.0993 
827DCA_int_051084.0597I see.1084.7080
829 1085.1987Um, did your parents want you to be anything particular?1087.5878 
831 1087.7599When you were coming up?1088.6372 
832DCA_se3_ag2_m_021090.0221They just wanted me to be good at something.1091.9603
833DCA_int_051092.2164<laugh> Didn't make any difference?1094.5695
835 1095.8873Um,1096.5076 
837 1097.0771if you had all the money in the world or1098.7864 
839 1099.1460/unintelligible/ all the money in the world but1100.8148 
841 1102.3339um,1102.8582 
843 1103.0142say several billion dollars, what would you do?1105.2072 
844DCA_se3_ag2_m_021108.1300<ts>1108.2721
846 1109.6477Well,1110.1378 
848 1110.2938naturally I'd1111.0102 
850 1111.7385live1112.3279 
852 1113.7234better.1114.1634 
854 1115.4494I would uh,1116.3779 
856 1119.7025try to set up some type of program that uh,1122.5770 
858 1123.8576would uh,1124.7060 
860 1125.7637help the community.1126.7642 
862 1127.1323When I say the community I'm talking about the black community.1129.4376 
864 1130.5877So that uh,1131.7011 
866 1133.7396younger people could be better directed and better trained and better skilled.1137.8067 
868 1139.3120Uh,1139.8363 
870 1140.1444I'd try to help1140.8688 
872 1141.4909the welfare situation,1142.8655 
874 1145.0537cause often times people don't get enough money on the welfare as well as people, as our people, /are gonna/ get more than they need.1150.5587 
876 1151.4757But in most cases, in most /instances/ that I know,1154.4903 
878 1155.0386they don't get enough.1155.8906 
880 1157.7897So I'd try to1158.7710 
882 1159.5745shall I say break the corruption that's uh,1161.9941 
884 1166.1492causing some people to get1167.2297 
886 1167.7059more than what they're getting and1169.0025 
888 1169.7149not enough people1170.6673 
890 1170.9955to get what they need.1172.1680 
891DCA_int_051172.4912Mm-hm.1173.1432
893 1173.6877Um, what would you do for yourself personally?1176.0298 
894DCA_se3_ag2_m_021178.9178Uh, what do you mean?1179.8965
896 1180.1184Do you mean like buy something?1181.6511 
897DCA_int_051182.5527Yeah or you know what would1184.2215
899 1184.5816you do for your own self? Not you know, in helping others /inaudible/1188.3274 
901 1189.1434[/inaudible/]1190.1919 
902DCA_se3_ag2_m_021189.3475[Well I'd probably] buy1190.5961
903 1191.3804a nightclub,1192.1700
905 1192.5742a package store,1193.8068 
907 1194.1429a set of apartments,1195.3642 
909 1197.5885some real estate,1198.5152 
911 1199.5050stock.1199.9997 
912DCA_int_051201.0858Mm-hm.1201.5604
914 1203.3120I see.1203.9603 
916 1204.9066Um,1205.3988 
918 1205.6189in a1206.0151 
920 1206.2432day's work, what do you do?1207.7839 
921DCA_se3_ag2_m_021209.5539Well I'm a salesman.1210.6526
922DCA_int_051211.1919Mm-hm.1211.7282
923DCA_se3_ag2_m_021211.9042And uh,1212.5045
925 1213.3209talk to people, try to1214.5433 
927 1215.7398interest them into buying clothes.1217.4566 
929 1218.6030/Interest them into buying ?/1220.3096 
930DCA_int_051220.5959Mm-hm.1221.0572
931DCA_se3_ag2_m_021221.3095Uh,1221.7308
933 1222.0378basically that's it.1223.0703 
934DCA_int_051223.7804I see.1224.4404
936 1225.7533Um, how does your family celebrate the holidays?1227.9864 
937DCA_se3_ag2_m_021231.9605Uh,1232.5047
939 1232.8569well normally they have a big dinner.1234.6097 
941 1236.3465And uh,1237.0265 
943 1237.9851mainly1238.4771 
945 1238.7654everything is centralized around the dinner.1240.5783 
946DCA_int_051241.7006I see.1242.3606
948 1242.7909Um,1243.2936 
950 1243.8394is Christmas or Easter a special holiday with your family?1247.6181 
951DCA_se3_ag2_m_021248.4554Christmas.1248.9956
952DCA_int_051249.5879Christmas is?1250.3999
953DCA_se3_ag2_m_021250.5804Mm-hm.1251.0057
954DCA_int_051250.9565What do you usually do on-1252.1149
955 1252.5991for Christmas?1253.3245
956DCA_se3_ag2_m_021254.7001Well as I said we have a big dinner and1256.7650
958 1258.7644there is m- more of a uh,1260.4804 
960 1261.8580<ts>1261.9321 
962 1262.1072uh,1262.6434 
964 1263.4976friendly giving spirit1264.8422 
965DCA_int_051265.8467[Mm-hm.]1266.3910
966DCA_se3_ag2_m_021265.9668[Which] sets it apart from Easter.1267.6916
967 1269.0454And uh,1269.8418
969 1272.0360often times1272.8222 
971 1272.9623we see more of our relatives at Christmas than we do at Easter.1275.7969 
972DCA_int_051277.3455I see.1277.9588
974 1278.6821Um,1279.1703 
976 1279.8325this may sound like a silly question but what do you want for Christmas this year?1282.9579 
977DCA_se3_ag2_m_021288.7082El Dorado.1289.4766
978DCA_int_051289.7647<laugh>1290.7652
980 1292.3810I see, nothing small.1293.7090 
982 1294.7220Um,1295.4264 
984 1295.8226were you in a si- in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die?1299.4461 
985DCA_se3_ag2_m_021300.0383Plenty of times.1300.9317
986DCA_int_051301.5495Oh, could you describe one of them?1303.2342
987DCA_se3_ag2_m_021304.3237<ts>1304.4038
989 1304.5348Couple of gang fights.1305.6233 
990DCA_int_051307.3019Well what happened?1308.1446
991DCA_se3_ag2_m_021309.7289A shooting.1310.3692
993 1310.6493And I didn't have a gun.1311.7746 
994DCA_int_051316.6259I see.1317.3194
996 1317.9317Well,1318.3224 
998 1318.9162I mean did the bullet whiz by your head or-1321.2242 
999DCA_se3_ag2_m_021321.4512No they were- uh, they were shooting at me I know that, and I was running you know.1324.7607
1000DCA_int_051325.3988Oh.1326.0255
1001DCA_se3_ag2_m_021326.1472Mm-hm.1326.6525
1002DCA_int_051326.7394And how did you feel?1327.7491
1003DCA_se3_ag2_m_021328.3974Frightened.1329.0267
1004DCA_int_051331.3240/Was that all?/1332.0213
1005DCA_se3_ag2_m_021332.9386Scared.1333.5319
1006DCA_int_051335.6438I see.1336.2038
1008 1336.5707Sometimes people say that whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, what do you think about that?1340.7926 
1009DCA_se3_ag2_m_021343.4517Depends1344.1290
1011 1346.5823upon what you're talking about uh,1348.2295 
1013 1349.8663I think that there are certain things that are1351.4870 
1015 1353.0582not within the1354.0747 
1017 1354.2708one's ability-1355.5113 
1019 1356.7399uh, well w- within one's ability to control.1359.9399 
1021 1360.6149And there are other things1361.5858 
1023 1362.8144that are.1363.2184 
1024DCA_int_051364.5182Mm-hm.1365.0728
1026 1367.0868Okay.1367.7355