LineSpeakerSt TimeContentEn Time
1DCA_int_050.0063Did you play when you were younger?1.3005
2DCA_se3_ag2_m_032.4484Oh uh3.3070
4 3.3968basketball,4.5614 
6 4.8917football, baseball, marbles,6.8966 
8 8.4533hide and go seek,9.5946 
10 11.3228root the peg,12.3508 
11DCA_int_0513.2517What?13.5679
12DCA_se3_ag2_m_0313.9021root the peg.14.6160
13DCA_int_0515.1007How'd you play root the peg?16.2393
14DCA_se3_ag2_m_0317.0096[That's a-]17.4938
15DCA_int_0517.0616[What is] it?17.6336
16DCA_se3_ag2_m_0317.8740it's a game you put the uh19.1386
18 19.2248peg in the ground and you try to root up with your21.2853 
20 21.4338teeth,21.9180 
22 23.7130and if you don't root it right then you have to eat the dirt.25.9770 
23DCA_int_0527.1767You have to27.6554
25 27.7810eat the dirt? [Did you] really eat the dirt?29.4178 
26DCA_se3_ag2_m_0328.3253[Mm.]28.7214
27 29.4258Yeah you had to, it was a part of the game.31.3467
28DCA_int_0531.9790Oh.32.6111
30 33.2036How'd you play hide and go seek?34.4569 
31DCA_se3_ag2_m_0335.6430Well36.1992
33 36.2592um,37.0236 
35 37.3237the person that was seeking the people they39.0851 
37 39.2027counted to a certain number and40.6401 
39 41.9760uh42.6894 
41 42.8764the43.0525 
43 43.1125other43.4967 
45 43.5768p-43.6928 
47 43.9489people uh44.6703 
49 45.1036they45.5318 
51 45.6558hid and46.2001 
53 46.7764the last man that47.9729 
55 48.1532uh was48.8015 
57 48.9135found,49.5378 
59 50.7064was supposed to be the winner of the-52.2111 
61 52.5533that-52.8586 
63 53.0476that53.3776 
65 53.4418particular game you know.54.6423 
66DCA_int_0555.5048I see.56.2169
68 57.0856Um how'd you choose who was it when you were playing hide and go seek?60.0189 
69DCA_se3_ag2_m_0360.9495Uh61.7602
71 62.6583I don't remember really.63.7663 
72DCA_int_0566.4883Um67.0697
74 67.2167did you ever play anything like red rover red rover?70.0940 
75DCA_se3_ag2_m_0370.8103Maybe by a different name but not by that name.72.8233
76DCA_int_0573.3897Um did you play mother may I?75.1626
78 75.9789Or [something like /inaudible/]78.3322 
79DCA_se3_ag2_m_0376.3431[Yes, right]77.2395
81 77.3556[we played that.]78.0239 
82DCA_int_0578.5323How did you play that?79.4896
83DCA_se3_ag2_m_0380.1370Well you had somebody up81.3276
85 81.5357uh last person82.9264 
87 83.2965or the83.8245 
89 83.9488person first in the first game was the86.2460 
91 86.8143one that you ask87.7276 
93 87.9769about a certain89.1982 
95 89.6017amount of moves and91.1324 
97 91.4067if you didn't say may I then you had to either go back or stand in that94.4734 
99 94.6362position.95.0884 
100DCA_int_0595.4467Mm-hm.96.0990
102 97.4516Um,98.0090 
104 98.3822when you play football do you have a regular team or is it just a group of kids from the neighborhood [or?]103.2004 
105DCA_se3_ag2_m_03103.0844[Mm]103.3645
106 103.5366both.104.1352
107DCA_int_05104.6653[Both?]105.0146
108DCA_se3_ag2_m_03104.8453[Sand] lot105.3816
109 105.4856and organized you know in high school.108.0138
110DCA_int_05108.2671Mm-hm.108.7954
111DCA_se3_ag2_m_03108.8114Mm-hm.109.3514
112DCA_int_05109.2676Um what was the sandlot team like?111.5876
113DCA_se3_ag2_m_03112.5531Group of guys from the community and-114.2116
114DCA_int_05115.3566[/??/] a sponsor or?117.1694
115DCA_se3_ag2_m_03115.3766[That's all.]116.0086
116 117.3175No no.117.9378
118 118.0499this was just a119.0432 
120 119.1904plain ordinary game that you got up120.8614 
122 121.0174you know121.3775 
124 121.5297on the spur of the moment.122.3821 
125DCA_int_05122.6262Uh-huh what was the other?123.7662
126DCA_se3_ag2_m_03124.1389Organized.124.8352
127DCA_int_05124.9072Organized well125.6872
129 125.9357how was that organized?126.9864 
130DCA_se3_ag2_m_03126.9784It was played in high school with uh equipment129.3984
131 130.1439um,130.9039
133 131.1043referees, coaches132.5030 
134DCA_int_05132.9613Mm-hm.133.5933
135DCA_se3_ag2_m_03133.7497/and under a name/134.6151
136DCA_int_05135.2864I see.136.0128
138 136.7772Um,137.3759 
140 138.5100uh back to the hide and seek game,140.4630 
142 140.9072well any game where you had to choose someone to pick did you- do you remember any rhymes that you would say?145.3314 
144 145.9198Like um, engine engine number nine, or148.5290 
146 149.0613something like that?150.0426 
147DCA_se3_ag2_m_03151.3305Anything with a-152.1068
148DCA_int_05152.2570A [rhyme.]153.0293
149DCA_se3_ag2_m_03152.4490[a rhyme?]153.2077
150DCA_int_05153.2435Yeah.153.6835
152 156.9272When you play [jump rope.]158.2918 
153DCA_se3_ag2_m_03157.5835[Yes we] play hide and go seek.159.4955
154 161.0173We had a little different name its called /niner niner baseball, Jack gonna have a see saw/165.2032
155DCA_int_05165.5115[<laugh>]165.8466
156DCA_se3_ag2_m_03165.6396[are you] ready?166.6075
157DCA_int_05167.3564<laugh>168.2044
158DCA_se3_ag2_m_03167.6565Yeah.168.1779
159DCA_int_05169.2714Um,169.8674
161 171.4004let's see,171.8591 
163 171.9967<clears throat> do you watch much TV now?173.7495 
164DCA_se3_ag2_m_03174.4139No.174.9221
165DCA_int_05175.3505No?175.7507
166DCA_se3_ag2_m_03176.4390[No.]176.9072
167DCA_int_05176.5350[Well] when you do watch,177.9837
168 178.1038do you have any favorite TV shows?179.5724
169DCA_se3_ag2_m_03180.7532Sports, any type of sports.182.6465
171 183.3384/Main-/183.7105 
173 183.8226mainly the major sports.185.2732 
174DCA_int_05186.7341Oh what about um187.8515
176 188.0468you watch soap opera often?189.5787 
177DCA_se3_ag2_m_03189.5995Yes.190.2048
178DCA_int_05190.2198<laugh> [you do?]192.2131
179DCA_se3_ag2_m_03191.4403[Mm-hm.]192.1163
180DCA_int_05192.8411Which ones do you watch?194.0437
181DCA_se3_ag2_m_03194.3819<clears throat>194.9685
183 195.7225I used to like Love of Life197.2753 
185 198.0837and As the World Turns.199.6354 
186DCA_int_05200.4349I see, did you um- so what was um going on when you were watching?204.3368
187DCA_se3_ag2_m_03205.2092Um,206.0705
189 211.5004uh I- I remember but it would uh have to go into detail to really explain.215.2962 
191 215.4763[Mm.]215.9710 
192DCA_int_05215.5003[Well that's] good.216.3607
193DCA_se3_ag2_m_03220.7369Well I don't remember the221.7676
195 221.8635exact names of the222.9601 
197 223.0481program I remember these two because they came on behind each other around226.0036 
199 226.0476three thirty or four o'clock in the afternoon.227.9583 
200DCA_int_05228.1806Mm-hm.228.6248
201DCA_se3_ag2_m_03229.2392And uh230.1276
203 230.8520it was a matter of I think one232.5247 
205 232.5808had uh233.3691 
207 234.1056where the young girl was uh236.2146 
209 236.9891thrown to the237.8575 
211 237.9215professor of uh239.2742 
213 239.7744a college and240.8011 
215 242.3057they had a little243.2301 
217 243.9865uh244.6918 
219 244.9549thing going and246.0136 
221 247.9745some uh-248.9429 
223 250.3357she250.7679 
225 251.1961had a baby and she was married to another guy because he was the- actually the younger guy and the foolish of the two.256.6027 
227 257.9515And uh258.6198 
229 259.2761I- I remember them but it260.5035 
231 260.5767really would-261.0890 
233 261.1570I'd have to go into detail to262.5617 
234DCA_int_05262.5417Mm-hm.263.0933
235DCA_se3_ag2_m_03262.9470tell you about it.263.5982
236DCA_int_05263.6142Um have you seen any- any movies recently?265.9436
237DCA_se3_ag2_m_03266.3376Yes.266.9363
238DCA_int_05266.8619<clears throat> What was the last one you saw?268.5979
239 268.7569/Do you know?/269.3156
240DCA_se3_ag2_m_03270.7438Uh the last complete movie I saw was uh The Killing of Sister George.275.2101
241DCA_int_05277.0269Last complete movie?278.3475
242DCA_se3_ag2_m_03278.0175Right.278.3762
243DCA_int_05278.8098And you mean that how?279.9377
244DCA_se3_ag2_m_03280.1546Well I saw about a fourth of uh282.4986
246 282.9279A Lion in the Winter the other night but the cameras went out285.4731 
248 285.5492you know286.0158 
250 286.3215right at the goody part.287.4575 
251DCA_int_05287.6503/inaudible/ [<laugh>]289.9354
252DCA_se3_ag2_m_03289.0230[Right.]289.3870
253 289.9634Right.290.3356
255 290.8438And I [was not on U] Street either.292.2611 
256DCA_int_05291.0940[<sigh>]291.6467
257 292.3025<sigh>292.7928
259 293.0489well um,293.8342 
260DCA_se3_ag2_m_03293.1810<clears throat>293.9237
261DCA_int_05294.2135what was The Killing of Sister George about?296.1304
263 296.7027[/inaudible/]297.1669 
264DCA_se3_ag2_m_03297.0028[Very] good picture, um298.6437
265 299.0078based on-299.9492
267 300.1305course the um301.1358 
269 302.1234previews and the name would304.1085 
271 304.3326tend to uh305.7273 
273 306.4816make you come to the movie but then when you get to the movie you find out The Killing of Sister George is really310.9518 
275 311.4201concerned with uh312.8047 
277 313.6892uh the what the decharacterization of a316.8585 
279 317.6252particular person.318.6305 
280DCA_int_05321.7012Um322.3212
282 322.7078Well you know give us the plot and how it developed.325.6243 
283DCA_se3_ag2_m_03327.8683Um328.8167
285 328.9208the plot was uh330.6474 
287 331.4901that the main character I forget her333.3189 
289 333.9112name or what her335.0298 
291 335.4820film name was, was336.5927 
293 336.7386that uh-337.4666 
295 338.0894well her film name was George I remember that340.2304 
297 340.3405and uh George341.4911 
299 342.1594in this picture played the part of a homos-344.2848 
301 344.6646well uh345.4432 
303 346.0092a346.2625 
305 346.5156homosexual or347.8122 
307 348.0403lesbian whatever you wanna call her,349.5043 
309 350.1092and uh she351.2266 
311 351.5061was living with a younger girl and353.0581 
313 353.6351she was a actress354.9499 
315 355.8722and the356.8495 
317 357.7190supposedly main character of a TV serial360.4465 
319 360.9307and she thought herself to be this- to be so363.1974 
321 364.1443uh much in demand that they could not write her out,367.5281 
322DCA_int_05368.0574Mm-hm.368.4000
323DCA_se3_ag2_m_03368.2884and the writers decided370.0231
324 370.6175she did not carry the major portion of the rating-373.6981
326 373.8291TV rating on that series so they decided to write her out.377.0451 
328 377.7951And she found out378.6540 
330 378.7321about middle ways of the picture that they were gonna write her out and these things382.3714 
332 382.9456made it very difficult for her384.7256 
334 385.3128uh385.9891 
336 386.0492in her daily life and also she was losing388.5304 
338 389.1328her389.7275 
340 390.6935partner391.5695 
342 391.6561which was a girl392.8665 
344 393.9492and uh394.7175 
346 395.1497this395.5884 
348 395.6459actually was the396.3623 
350 396.8145combination of397.8630 
352 398.7175the title of the picture, The Killing of Sister George.401.2066 
353DCA_int_05402.0912Okay.402.6715
355 404.0121Um404.6881 
357 405.1548could you tell me about school?406.5874 
359 407.1437You know when you were young just elementary school and junior high school.410.1011 
360DCA_se3_ag2_m_03411.6720Uh,412.6627
362 414.7815yes I415.9740 
364 416.7465can tell you some about it I uh419.1119 
366 420.4082went to a421.4469 
368 422.5033about422.8807 
370 423.0276three or four different423.9841 
372 424.8644elementary schools within the North East section but my school that I remember most was my high school that I finished at Spingarn.432.7406 
373DCA_int_05433.4327Mm-hm.434.1074
375 437.3127Let's see uh what [did /??/]438.8054 
376DCA_se3_ag2_m_03438.1931[After] transferring back and forth440.3251
377DCA_int_05440.5044Mm-hm.440.9604
378DCA_se3_ag2_m_03440.8164through all the other441.9138
379 442.0650schools within the area I finally finished at /?/445.3407
381 446.0450somehow or another at [Spingarn.]447.8130 
382DCA_int_05447.4098[<laugh>]448.6818
383DCA_se3_ag2_m_03449.1786/inaudible/449.8733
384DCA_int_05449.9590<sigh>450.3872
386 450.6073What did you study when you were in school?452.4362 
388 452.6523You know453.1646 
390 453.2687any, um, time from454.8294 
392 455.0295elementary through uh you know high school457.2762 
394 457.4327you can talk about /any of it that you want/459.1775 
395DCA_se3_ag2_m_03459.1936Oh I studied all460.2825
397 460.3458subjects I even took a trade462.1657 
398DCA_int_05462.7774[Mm.]463.2897
399DCA_se3_ag2_m_03462.9074[in brick] masonry.464.2416
400DCA_int_05465.0465Really?465.5107
402 466.9594What was that like?467.7687 
403DCA_se3_ag2_m_03469.4647Well it was uh470.6292
405 470.7293a matter of learning the basic uh472.9413 
407 476.9544things to brick laying,478.8072 
409 479.6758blueprint reading,480.9084 
411 482.5972uh how different buildings are put up,484.6273 
413 485.6598what type of bonds are used in487.9689 
415 488.3811the bricking489.0717 
417 489.2335of the building,489.9855 
418DCA_int_05491.9579I see.492.7659
419DCA_se3_ag2_m_03492.6982and so forth.493.5426
420DCA_int_05494.1610Um what did you kids495.4410
422 495.7497you know do after school?496.9617 
424 497.8778Say when you were younger not499.0314 
426 499.5437high school, when you were younger.501.2583 
427DCA_se3_ag2_m_03503.3815In high school?504.2881
429 504.9844[In high school-]505.8831 
430DCA_int_05504.9964[No not in high] school, saying elementary junior high school.508.0338
431 508.4021High school is a separate question.509.9788
432DCA_se3_ag2_m_03510.6951Well um,511.6138
434 513.3145we all had different little jobs,515.0873 
436 515.3115delivering /papers-/ papers, working at517.4445 
438 518.5492uh519.3598 
440 519.6297wood yards,520.6883 
442 520.8262delivering521.3862 
444 521.6506/coals/522.5151 
446 523.2955or coal, or524.8642 
447DCA_int_05525.2123Coal?525.7448
448DCA_se3_ag2_m_03525.9929coal yes, coal and wood527.7377
450 527.8177a coal and wood truck.529.3104 
451DCA_int_05530.0209Hm.530.4051
453 531.5216I see.532.2176 
455 532.8702Um,533.6369 
457 535.7037did you ever have a teacher who hollered a lot?537.6090 
458DCA_se3_ag2_m_03538.2889Definitely.539.0302
459DCA_int_05539.1114<laugh> What was she like?541.1964
460DCA_se3_ag2_m_03544.1639Oh,545.0265
462 546.9252she had her good points I think I see them more so now than what550.1492 
464 550.4650then you know.551.3410 
465DCA_int_05552.3080Then you think that in some ways her hollering was justified?555.4014
466DCA_se3_ag2_m_03556.6541Not really but uh558.1628
468 558.3189she thought it to be.559.2454 
469DCA_int_05560.9782Well what type of things did she holler about?562.9783
470DCA_se3_ag2_m_03564.5040Anything that displeased her.565.9440
471DCA_int_05565.9967<laugh>567.1580
473 568.8321I see.569.5924 
475 570.3810Um,571.1213 
477 571.5495well do you remember your favorite teacher?573.4482 
478DCA_se3_ag2_m_03575.9537Yes.576.4019
479DCA_int_05577.2324What was she like?578.2929
480DCA_se3_ag2_m_03578.6891It was a he.579.5477
481DCA_int_05580.2699He. <laugh>582.4909
482DCA_se3_ag2_m_03585.0582Well he was my eighth grade teacher587.2472
484 587.5514also my588.3638 
486 588.8842football,589.6605 
488 589.7406basketball coach591.2813 
489DCA_int_05591.1172<sigh>591.8536
490DCA_se3_ag2_m_03592.0456and592.7220
491DCA_int_05592.5019[Now] I can see [why-]593.4352
492DCA_se3_ag2_m_03593.2805[the] leader594.0209
493 594.3308or in charge of the safety patrol597.0721
495 597.5124of which I was a lieutenant.598.7821 
497 598.8791so he was my favorite.599.9916 
498DCA_int_05600.4438Oh I see.601.5038
499DCA_se3_ag2_m_03601.8245And he gave me good grades.603.1098
500DCA_int_05603.2773<laugh>604.5084
502 604.6832As a classroom teacher what was he like?606.5160 
503DCA_se3_ag2_m_03607.0951Beautiful.607.5433
504DCA_int_05608.8561What does that mean?610.0366
505DCA_se3_ag2_m_03610.2567He knew what he was doing.611.2687
506DCA_int_05611.7134Mm.612.1737
508 613.6424Um did you ever have a teacher that you really couldn't stand that didn't really like you at all?617.5931 
509DCA_se3_ag2_m_03617.9566Yeah.618.4526
510DCA_int_05618.7570Yeah.619.1993
512 619.9136Did um the kids in the class ever play a trick on the teacher?622.7602 
513DCA_se3_ag2_m_03625.1482Hm.626.2928
515 627.3773No I don't remember629.0773 
517 629.4862any.629.9224 
518DCA_int_05630.7330Never. [<laugh>]632.3772
519DCA_se3_ag2_m_03632.0015[No.]632.4802
520DCA_int_05632.5578Thumb tacks on the chair, spit balls?634.6525
521DCA_se3_ag2_m_03636.4297No no637.2501
523 637.3501uh I don't remember any.638.4941 
524DCA_int_05643.0351Uh was there a bunch of kids that you hung around with when you were younger?646.1031
525DCA_se3_ag2_m_03646.3888Yes.646.8355
526DCA_int_05647.5413Uh what type of things did you do?649.1381
528 649.2421Or what- where- first of all, where um651.2888 
530 651.6853you know where was this group? Was it in your neighborhood or?654.2213 
531DCA_se3_ag2_m_03654.2686Yes in the neighborhood655.4332
533 656.7338and also uh657.9271 
535 658.3007same kids I went to school with because the660.2461 
537 660.7018school was located in my neighborhood not far from my house.663.3045 
538DCA_int_05663.7233I see.664.3633
540 664.5437What type of things did you do?665.8685 
541DCA_se3_ag2_m_03668.1896Uh at what time?669.6983
543 669.7543High school?670.7108 
545 671.0070Before high [school?]671.9405 
546DCA_int_05671.7193[<clears throat>] Any time the group that you remember most.674.3486
547DCA_se3_ag2_m_03675.1391Uh675.7828
549 675.8862the group that I remember most were the people that um678.6021 
551 680.2375were of age between the ages of maybe um683.5935 
553 683.7174fifteen and nineteen685.2021 
555 686.6467and uh687.2670 
557 688.5737we played basketball689.8823 
559 689.9464together and against each other691.5277 
561 691.5791and uh692.4151 
563 693.1600went to movies694.1325 
565 694.9249together695.5572 
567 698.1144you know we just did everything almost together you know because then700.9158 
569 702.0564women were not really of uh703.8292 
571 704.4135an immediate matter.705.4341 
572DCA_int_05708.0354In this group um709.3200
574 709.8884if someone new711.1610 
576 711.3091moved into your neighborhood,712.6331 
578 713.0739um what would they have to do to become a member of your group?715.6219 
579DCA_se3_ag2_m_03715.9674It was not a matter of being a member717.5754
581 717.6562no,718.0828 
583 718.6726it was not uh719.6380 
585 720.0274anything that you had to do to become a member.721.8763 
586DCA_int_05722.8048Well um723.5781
588 724.7817in this- well was it725.9764 
590 726.4465just an informal group I understand that but728.7256 
592 729.4580say if someone completely new731.2249 
594 731.6931came in732.4131 
596 732.6096and they wanted to you know hang around with the rest of you, what would this person have to be like?736.9937 
597DCA_se3_ag2_m_03738.4145Um739.1558
599 741.8982I guess the only thing he had to do was not make a fool of himself you know745.8141 
601 745.9661that was the only thing you know.747.3769 
602DCA_int_05749.8842Um do you have a group that you hang around with now?752.0616
603DCA_se3_ag2_m_03753.9063Yes.755.3869
604DCA_int_05757.0317What is um, your group like now?758.7797
605DCA_se3_ag2_m_03760.8256Really just the same people that I uh762.7986
607 762.9986grew up with.763.6466 
608DCA_int_05765.8481Do you um766.7068
610 767.1648do any767.7434 
612 767.8851different things now I mean do you party together or?770.2263 
613DCA_se3_ag2_m_03771.0107Yeah771.3600
615 771.4829definitely772.0954 
617 772.2346mm-hm.772.6806 
618DCA_int_05774.0563You usually take in um the cultural /inaudible/778.2157
620 778.3113another group /inaudible/780.2070 
621DCA_se3_ag2_m_03780.2454No780.8176
623 780.8817I um,781.5603 
625 783.6590mainly these things are done individually yeah.786.4263 
626DCA_int_05786.8566Mm-hm.787.6166
628 788.3333Um do any of the people in your group speak a foreign language?791.1693 
630 792.1392/Nay-/ naturally?793.2899 
632 793.3635/You know?/793.5892 
633DCA_se3_ag2_m_03795.2287No.795.9074
634DCA_int_05797.1357Um any members of your group white?799.7250
635DCA_se3_ag2_m_03802.8446Not the immediate group, no.804.5406
636DCA_int_05804.6054Mm-hm.805.3148
638 805.9941Um806.5104 
640 806.6865in your group is there any person that everyone tends to listen to or809.8918 
642 810.3063accepts more or less as the leader not really you know as the boss of the group but814.7363 
644 814.9266/inaudible/ most of the group?816.9372 
645DCA_se3_ag2_m_03816.9195No.817.4848
646DCA_int_05817.8247No.818.3438
648 819.9951Um820.9205 
650 821.8280if you could do it all over again, would823.7410 
652 824.0011there be anything in your life that you'd like to change?826.3502 
653DCA_se3_ag2_m_03828.6874A few things of which I will not830.0961
655 830.4202tell you.831.0525 
656DCA_int_05831.4727<laugh>832.4687
658 832.9535Okay.833.6361 
660 834.5963Um835.2576 
662 837.8420well,838.6260 
664 838.9865is there something that you- is there anything in general I mean that you could tell me?842.9745 
665DCA_se3_ag2_m_03847.3688Mm,848.4533
667 849.5778maybe I might uh851.0465 
669 852.2332be more inclined to have finished college.855.3038 
671 857.0355<whispers> /That's a lie/.858.1875 
672DCA_int_05858.6043Do you think that this would've um860.2123
674 860.3972presented any advantage for you?862.0945 
675DCA_se3_ag2_m_03862.2162Definitely.863.0522
676DCA_int_05863.6168Why?864.0970
677DCA_se3_ag2_m_03865.9099Well I think I'd be in a position to get-867.3385
679 867.4287to be making more money and that's really what the whole thing is about.870.7096 
680DCA_int_05871.4948Okay.872.3031
682 873.0395Um873.5621 
684 874.0800do you like yourself as you are now, as a person?876.8733 
685DCA_se3_ag2_m_03879.4907Uh I'm alright.880.7056
687 880.8739[<laugh>]881.9484 
688DCA_int_05881.0955[<laugh>]882.2861
689 883.3365Okay.884.0850
691 884.3291When you were younger what did you want to be when you grew up?886.9464 
692DCA_se3_ag2_m_03887.3447An architectural engineer.888.8260
693DCA_int_05889.2536Oh.889.8162
695 890.2120Okay.891.0160 
697 891.6647Um how long would it- do- um when you- uh at that time how long did you think it would take you to do that?896.4932 
698DCA_se3_ag2_m_03897.7938Well at the time it really um-899.8911
700 901.4516I really became very very interested in it I knew it would take at least five years from the brochures that I906.7263 
702 907.7627had read908.4471 
704 909.1434[from different schools]910.3394 
705DCA_int_05909.1696[/inaudible/]910.7527
706DCA_se3_ag2_m_03911.1204yes, uh.912.5372
707DCA_int_05913.4576Um914.1496
709 915.9148if you had all the money in the world,917.6036 
711 917.9859uh what would you do with it?919.2254 
713 920.4470Well not all the money in the world then you would never worry about any [of this but]923.7747 
714DCA_se3_ag2_m_03923.2104[Yeah.]923.7784
715DCA_int_05924.2589um if you had most of the money in the world.926.6998
716DCA_se3_ag2_m_03927.6827Well,928.2947
718 929.4035I um-930.4835 
720 932.1329I used to think about having a college in my name.934.8729 
722 935.6966So I'd build a college that uh would hold938.2980 
724 939.3625or939.9558 
726 940.4150would uh941.2443 
728 944.3549educate944.9391 
730 945.0313many people, I mean thousands of people,947.4326 
732 947.5145and then I'd be948.6391 
734 949.4434very satisfied with950.7274 
736 950.8302money in the bank and952.2909 
738 952.9192enough953.5536 
740 954.0098of the world nourishments for me.955.8858 
741DCA_int_05956.7991I see.957.4258
743 958.4840Um would you describe what you do in a day's work?961.3234 
744DCA_se3_ag2_m_03963.8407A night's work.964.6330
745DCA_int_05964.8371<laugh>966.1131
746DCA_se3_ag2_m_03966.6260See I work nights handling this mail.968.8546
748 971.3683And uh972.1657 
750 973.2553it's a matter of moving the mail from one place to another975.7140 
752 975.7925and so976.6098 
754 977.3795uh978.0278 
756 978.4360it's all laid out for you it's979.9527 
758 980.2948you could say maybe981.4961 
760 982.2558uh982.8452 
762 982.9962manual labor.984.0082 
763DCA_int_05984.4969I see.985.3534
765 986.3899Um how does your family celebrate the holidays?988.8885 
767 989.6255/?/ Christmas /??/991.2215 
768DCA_se3_ag2_m_03992.1947Well we try to get together, we994.0107
770 994.9281have lots of uh996.5348 
772 996.9330food and997.8356 
774 998.9921this is how we r-1000.0606 
776 1000.1527really remember1001.0673 
778 1002.0716the holidays.1002.9663 
780 1003.3883The main holidays.1004.7656 
781DCA_int_051005.2492I see.1005.9812
783 1006.4698Um for Christmas,1007.5831 
785 1008.0627um1008.5029 
787 1008.7670let's say when you were younger. Did you1010.3778 
789 1010.6740all join in and decorating the tree, /type of thing or/1013.8860 
790DCA_se3_ag2_m_031013.9496Wh- when we could afford one.1015.3283
791DCA_int_051015.8425<laugh>1017.0012
793 1017.2671Okay.1018.0085 
795 1018.6099Um1019.2182 
797 1019.5463this may seem kind of funny but what would you like for Christmas this year?1022.5143 
798DCA_se3_ag2_m_031024.2466Um1025.1053
800 1027.9906for Christmas this year,1029.3079 
802 1031.4903I think I might be satisfied w-1033.5313 
804 1034.9479with uh1036.3399 
806 1039.3002maybe uh1040.3647 
808 1040.6488a suit or two and1042.1768 
810 1044.4207a car of the coming year.1046.0340 
811DCA_int_051047.1921I see.1048.0828
813 1048.5167Do you remember the best Christmas present you ever got?1050.6767 
814DCA_se3_ag2_m_031052.2206No I don't.1052.9126
815DCA_int_051053.4332No?1053.8226
816DCA_se3_ag2_m_031053.9695No.1054.3216
817DCA_int_051054.5038<laugh>1055.4798
819 1056.3007Um were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die?1060.4833 
820DCA_se3_ag2_m_031061.3212Oh yes.1062.0736
821DCA_int_051062.5418What happened? Could you describe it?1064.3458
822DCA_se3_ag2_m_031065.8194Well I'm not a churchgoer but at one time I was uh1069.3327
824 1069.5432about to be killed or could have been killed,1071.4699 
826 1072.2906uh while in a tractor-trailer1074.1955 
828 1074.5197but for some reason or another I screamed out all at once for1077.7593 
830 1077.8239the lord1078.5205 
831DCA_int_051079.0920<gasps>1079.5053
832DCA_se3_ag2_m_031079.8203and uh1080.6190
834 1080.7488at that very time I thought that I might die.1082.9238 
835DCA_int_051083.7824Mm.1084.3866
837 1085.2870Mm-hm.1085.8136 
839 1085.9209Um sometimes people say that whatever is going to happen is going to happen, what do you think about that?1091.0270 
840DCA_se3_ag2_m_031091.2820I don't understand.1092.1513
841DCA_int_051092.4266Sometimes people say that whatever is going to happen is going to happen, you know there's nothing that you can do about it it's predestination, predestiny, what do you think about that?1100.7426
842DCA_se3_ag2_m_031102.1935Well I have to ask you a question, is predestiny a linking to the bible?1106.4455
843DCA_int_051107.3260No it's just your feelings like some people feel that they cannot control their future1111.6073
845 1112.0504and that it's already set out, there's nothing they can do about it and however it goes [that's just the way it was meant to go.]1117.9459 
846DCA_se3_ag2_m_031116.5806[No I don't agree with that.]1117.9340
847 1118.5976No I do not agree.1119.5580
849 1121.1549I do not agree with predestiny.1122.6469 
850DCA_int_051123.4101Um well,1124.2545
852 1125.2830you know how is your general view- I mean do you agree in part with it or you know not at all? Do you think you can1129.7698 
854 1130.1974[/control/ your own] future?1131.5060 
855DCA_se3_ag2_m_031130.3055[Yes I think-]1131.1095
856 1131.5220right, you can.1132.5947
858 1132.6867for instance uh should I think that I would be killed at a certain moment I could-1136.8487 
860 1137.4169or at a certain1138.3448 
862 1138.4135street corner at a certain time I could very well lock myself into a room until this time has passed and1143.3699 
864 1143.8381predestiny is shot all through.1145.4448 
865DCA_int_051146.9917[Yeah.]1147.4199
866DCA_se3_ag2_m_031147.2158[It's] little bits.1148.3571