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1DCA_int_010.1748The first thing I'll ask is1.7545
3 3.0741what sort of games you played as a child, if you can remember.6.8265 
4DCA_se3_ag3_m_047.2602Well I played basketball9.1953
6 9.9647and f- and uh, baseball when I was a child.12.9385 
7DCA_int_0114.6824Uh,15.1766
9 17.6935how do you play basketball?19.2322 
11 19.4654How many [/inaudible/?]21.3818 
12DCA_se3_ag3_m_0419.9341[Well you have a-]20.6746
14 21.2606a /basket/ on the post22.8786 
15 23.3997and23.9966
17 24.3836when you throw the ball into the /bastet/, you call a /goal/.27.8621 
18DCA_int_0127.9507Mm-hm.28.4403
20 29.1619How do you score?29.9406 
21DCA_se3_ag3_m_0431.1530How- how did I [score?]32.4073
22DCA_int_0132.0547[Yeah.]32.4002
23 32.9855I mean,33.4611
25 34.4589how do you count the points?35.6189 
26DCA_se3_ag3_m_0435.6795Uh t-36.0898
28 36.2763twenty one was a game.37.8757 
29DCA_int_0137.9037Uh-huh.38.3420
31 38.9715How do you get a point?39.8901 
32DCA_se3_ag3_m_0440.3051Well, every time you throw the ball42.1784
34 43.0550into the /basket/44.1508 
35DCA_int_0144.6667[Is that one point?]45.5395
36DCA_se3_ag3_m_0444.7243[That- th- that's one point.]46.3517
37DCA_int_0146.0122[Yeah.]46.3122
38 46.5371/Gee, I'm not an/athlete so I don't know (laughing)48.7753
39DCA_se3_ag3_m_0448.8172Uh-huh.49.4560
40DCA_int_0149.4933any of these things.50.3746
42 51.4797Did you ever play any little kid52.9765 
44 53.1572games where people chased each other or anything like that?56.1555 
46 56.4399Do you remember?57.2746 
47DCA_se3_ag3_m_0458.2631Well, we played Going Around the /Merryberry/ Bush.61.2182
48DCA_int_0161.2882Oh, how did that work?62.4119
49DCA_se3_ag3_m_0462.4119Well,62.9528
50 63.6056you g-64.0300
52 64.4823About twelve kids hold hands and put two in the ring and they call that going around the /Merryberry/ Bush.70.4216 
53DCA_int_0170.4403Mm-hm.71.0325
55 72.1971What was the- Was there a73.3441 
57 73.9317aim in that? Or something you had to accomplish?76.2489 
58DCA_se3_ag3_m_0476.2398Well, it was our aim-77.6935
59 78.2017Uh, at the end of it,79.8104
61 80.0669a boy and a girl was always in the ring,82.3097 
62DCA_int_0182.4216Oh!82.7061
63DCA_se3_ag3_m_0482.6361and the boy would get a kiss from a [girl you see?]84.9105
64DCA_int_0184.1784[<laugh>]85.5773
65 85.8850Ah, that sounds like fun.87.4284
67 87.9460What age kids would play that game?89.5209 
68DCA_se3_ag3_m_0489.4416Uh, well I myself- When I- We was in school at that time,92.5052
69 92.8829it was around93.7922
71 94.2818eight and nine and ten.95.9826 
72DCA_int_0195.9779Uh-huh.96.4955
73 98.5425Did you ever play Tag?99.7782
74DCA_se3_ag3_m_04100.3843No, uh, we didn't.101.5955
75DCA_int_01103.6519Um.104.0406
77 107.0344Did you play anything108.0339 
79 108.5936called Kick the Can?109.7964 
80DCA_se3_ag3_m_04110.3047[No.]110.8736
81DCA_int_01110.7337[Oh], you didn't?111.4098
82 113.3018How about baseball? Were you ever in a baseball game? [/inaudible/]117.0041
83DCA_se3_ag3_m_04115.8944[Oh yes, when I] was in school, we had /a lot/ baseball games.119.8240
84DCA_int_01119.7168Uh-huh.120.3649
85 120.7146Did you play for the school team?122.2907
86DCA_se3_ag3_m_04122.3047E- Yes.123.3678
87DCA_int_01125.9732What position did you play?127.4374
88DCA_se3_ag3_m_04127.4374I always /payed/ first base.129.1673
89DCA_int_01129.2932Oh.129.7782
91 130.1745Get a lot of action /then/.131.3810 
92DCA_se3_ag3_m_04131.3538Oh, y- yes.132.5235
93 133.6565And- and during the summers, you know, the community would have a team, and we would travel137.7727
95 138.0758to various counties and various little villages and play140.7383 
97 141.1487when school was out.142.0439 
98DCA_int_01142.1885Uh-huh.142.8180
100 143.3810Was your team pretty good?144.6260 
101DCA_se3_ag3_m_04145.1017Well,145.9876
103 146.2347sometime it was good, and sometime it was kind of bad.149.1630 
104DCA_int_01149.1619Mm-hm.149.6981
105DCA_se3_ag3_m_04149.6795Makes me think of the Washington Senators. [You know, they win] sometime, then again they down.154.0859
106DCA_int_01151.5120[<laugh>]152.0156
107 154.1547Mm-hm.154.7935
109 155.1759They're not doing too bad now.156.5468 
110DCA_se3_ag3_m_04156.5277No!157.1623
111 157.8431But when they first started, I w- /a little dull/ after three games you know.162.0105
112DCA_int_01161.9639Yeah. Mm-hm.163.0632
113 163.7125Now you think you got troubles. I'm a White Sox fan.166.2398
115 167.2598[<laugh>] At least I was [last year.]170.6544 
116DCA_se3_ag3_m_04167.6941[You are?]168.5124
118 168.9338[<laugh>]169.4560 
120 169.8628[<laugh>]170.4098 
121 171.0159Well since I've been here,172.6268
123 173.5909I go along with the Senators since the Senators here.176.2696 
124DCA_int_01177.2466I think my wife is ready to switch [/unintelligible/. <laugh>]180.7100
125DCA_se3_ag3_m_04179.3251[<laugh>]180.6260
126DCA_int_01181.5368What's wrong with the White Sox? /You seem like some/ baseball [/?/.]184.8888
127DCA_se3_ag3_m_04184.5429Well,185.3344
128 187.8477in- in games,189.3003
130 189.6896they just have the good years and bad years. That's the only way I can see it.192.8405 
131DCA_int_01192.8685Mm-hm.193.3768
132DCA_se3_ag3_m_04194.2534You know, there are other years the White Sox have been good.196.8087
133DCA_int_01196.8989Mm-hm.197.4535
135 198.0945You think these new guys that they got are going to help them eventually? Like Tommy Davis and them?202.8734 
136DCA_se3_ag3_m_04202.9163I- I kind of think so.204.2157
137DCA_int_01204.3649Mm-hm.204.8126
139 204.9991You would think so. Wh- a-206.5518 
141 207.0274The pitching isn't holding [up to] me.208.8914 
142DCA_se3_ag3_m_04208.1547[Mm-hm.]208.5790
143 209.2878But /owing to their/ background, they should bring it out.212.2394
144DCA_int_01212.4026Mm-hm.212.8502
146 213.1580Yeah.213.6103 
148 214.9194How high do you think the Senators are gonna get this year?217.3581 
149DCA_se3_ag3_m_04219.3636<laugh>220.0439
151 221.0360[<whew>]222.2857 
152DCA_int_01221.6888[<laugh>] If you had to guess.223.2081
153DCA_se3_ag3_m_04223.1945That's a sixty four dollar question.224.8502
154DCA_int_01224.9173/inaudible/225.3310
156 226.5511How high do you hope? <laugh> [/inaudible/]229.0550 
157DCA_se3_ag3_m_04228.1085Well I hope it- e- end up in first place.230.8409
158DCA_int_01230.8363Hm.231.2513
159DCA_se3_ag3_m_04231.9495Because I've been in Washington twenty two years.234.2848
161 234.6973I never seen a pennant won here, and I hope we get in first place.238.2748 
162DCA_int_01238.1202Mm-hm.238.5793
163 239.6142Oh, the way they're going now, they just might [surprise everybody.]242.7102
164DCA_se3_ag3_m_04241.8384[Yeah.]242.6031
165 243.5057Well, when it gets-244.2694
167 244.3704The weather get hot,245.4012 
169 245.6774it always a change there.247.0866 
170DCA_int_01247.3093[Mm.]247.6366
171DCA_se3_ag3_m_04247.3184[You know], last year, they was doing good. Soon as the weather got hot,250.3412
172 250.7594they went down for awhile.252.0572
173DCA_int_01251.9947Mm-hm.252.3175
174 253.2266They did pretty well in the /Grapefruit League/.255.1903
175DCA_se3_ag3_m_04255.1449Oh yes, they did excellent.256.9950
176DCA_int_01257.4439Mm-hm.257.8712
178 259.0076They won all our Nat- games with the National League teams, too.261.9304 
179DCA_se3_ag3_m_04261.9713Yes, they did.262.8350
180DCA_int_01264.5476Surprised me.265.4522
181DCA_se3_ag3_m_04266.5518It surprise everyone [I think. <heh!>]268.8553
182DCA_int_01267.8108[<laugh>]268.8786
183 269.6282/Everyone/ thinks the National League's supposed to be good.272.1601
185 273.9151Who was the best player275.1288 
187 276.4595that you remember on the Senators since you've been here?279.3958 
189 281.8768In your opinion.282.7860 
190DCA_se3_ag3_m_04286.9952I can't call his name right now, but I know him so well. But I can't call his name.291.4580
191DCA_int_01291.6080What did he play?292.5217
192DCA_se3_ag3_m_04292.9796Uh- uh- first base.294.1979
193DCA_int_01294.5524Mm-hm.295.0797
195 296.5238Yeah- When was this?297.8117 
197 298.2771Sometime ago, or [recently?]300.2289 
198DCA_se3_ag3_m_04299.5536[Uh], just before the old Senators went to Minnesota.303.2063
199DCA_int_01303.1472Oh.303.4654
200 304.7143Not Killebrew was it?305.8916
201DCA_se3_ag3_m_04307.4281Was that Killebrew p- played first base?309.6509
202DCA_int_01309.8236I think he did, I don't know310.9518
203DCA_se3_ag3_m_04310.9680Uh-huh.311.5635
205 313.3590It could have been.314.4136 
206DCA_int_01316.3682Hm.316.6410
208 317.8581Do you ever watch TV?318.9127 
209DCA_se3_ag3_m_04319.2309Oh yes.320.0764
210DCA_int_01320.5037What's your favorite?321.3719
211DCA_se3_ag3_m_04321.7935/Ed Sullivan's/ program.323.2345
212DCA_int_01323.8436Oh yeah?324.2845
214 325.2982What-325.5301 
216 325.8664Could you tell me about one time when-327.4029 
218 328.3154that it was particularly good on that?329.8545 
219DCA_se3_ag3_m_04332.1065[Uh],332.6156
220DCA_int_01332.2611[What] he had on?333.1656
221DCA_se3_ag3_m_04333.3020his twenty year anniversary.335.0101
222DCA_int_01335.2828Oh, who all did he have on there?336.9692
223DCA_se3_ag3_m_04337.2329Oh he had lots of stars on.339.3557
225 340.3001Uh- U-340.5955 
227 340.8956Jack Paar,342.2229 
229 343.1184uh,344.0366 
231 345.8174I can't call all those stars but I think that was really good.349.3395 
232DCA_int_01349.6039Mm-hm.350.1358
234 351.1494Do you ever watch any of their stories?352.8620 
235DCA_se3_ag3_m_04353.4257No, I don't watch an- any of the stories, but I do watch the news.357.3713
236DCA_int_01357.5020Oh.357.8930
237DCA_se3_ag3_m_04360.9386[N-] In the news,362.6750
238DCA_int_01361.0021[Oh yeah.]361.4248
239DCA_se3_ag3_m_04363.2830I think Chet Huntley and David Brinkley is may favorite news.366.7422
240DCA_int_01366.9104Uh-huh.367.3468
242 368.5185Think they do a good job?369.7322 
243DCA_se3_ag3_m_04369.8685Yes, and David Brinkley's from North Carolina, and that's what make me like him so [well.]374.2415
244DCA_int_01373.6752[<laugh>]374.8642
245 375.7859Your home state.376.7950
246DCA_se3_ag3_m_04376.8450Y- yes.377.5632
247DCA_int_01379.9224Do you go to movies?380.7724
248DCA_se3_ag3_m_04381.4032No, I don't go to the movie.383.0760
249DCA_int_01383.7987Hm.384.0806
251 384.8715Well, can't ask you about a movie you've seen then. [<laugh>]387.3160 
252DCA_se3_ag3_m_04386.8841[<laugh>] No, I don't go to the movie.388.9206
253 389.4570The last time I went to the movie, I went to see Gone With the Wind. You know how many years it's been ago.394.2606
254DCA_int_01394.6970They just /revised/ that.395.7879
255DCA_se3_ag3_m_04395.8743Right, and I want to see it397.2471
257 397.5960when they revise it here.398.8597 
258DCA_int_01399.1824Uh-huh.399.6143
260 400.3916What was that about?401.2098 
261DCA_se3_ag3_m_04402.6553Well, you know Clarke Gable,405.2225
262DCA_int_01405.2316Hm.405.4816
263DCA_se3_ag3_m_04407.5499I can't think of all those stars, but it was really [good. I really enjoyed Gone with the Wind.]411.6679
264DCA_int_01410.4807[What's the story] of Gone with the Wind?412.6308
265 414.2400Do you /inaudible/?415.3491
266DCA_se3_ag3_m_04415.4718Well, it's-416.2173
268 417.0299I can't417.6026 
270 417.9117recall the story of it now.419.7709 
271DCA_int_01419.9618Mm-hm.420.4846
273 422.8517Do you have a pet?423.6609 
274DCA_se3_ag3_m_04425.1746No, I don't have a pet.426.3246
275DCA_int_01426.7053Did you have one when you were a kid?428.0781
276DCA_se3_ag3_m_04428.3554Yeah, we had dogs.429.7191
277DCA_int_01429.8827Oh yeah?430.3509
279 431.0646What kind?431.7465 
280DCA_se3_ag3_m_04432.5283Well we had the hound and the beagles.434.8864
282 435.7910See they was for hunting.436.9774 
283DCA_int_01436.9819Mm-hm.437.5183
284DCA_se3_ag3_m_04438.0320When I was growing up, I was a great hunter.439.8673
285DCA_int_01440.0264Oh were you?440.6537
286DCA_se3_ag3_m_04440.7401Oh yes.441.4492
287DCA_int_01441.7356What kind of stuff did you hunt?442.9220
288DCA_se3_ag3_m_04442.9811Well we hunt squirrels, rabbits [and]445.3585
289DCA_int_01445.0346[Hm.]445.3755
290DCA_se3_ag3_m_04446.1665coons447.1665
291DCA_int_01447.2302Mm.447.5074
292DCA_se3_ag3_m_04447.5302at night and possum- We go to hunt at night for those.450.4939
293DCA_int_01450.6246Mm-hm.451.0110
295 451.9747How did you do that? What's- what's that like?453.8930 
296DCA_se3_ag3_m_04454.4566Well, the dog455.8840
298 456.1022would tree-456.8284 
300 457.1022would-457.5375 
302 458.5012the possum.459.2694 
304 459.7785Then [the]-460.2467 
305DCA_int_01459.9921[Get started.]460.8649
306DCA_se3_ag3_m_04460.6740then the possum would go up the tree,462.4241
307 463.0548and someone would climb the tree464.8776
309 465.1549and catch the possum. See a possum won't bite you.467.3322 
310DCA_int_01467.7459[/Oh, it won't?/]468.5857
311DCA_se3_ag3_m_04467.8414[But a coon]-468.8096
312 470.1722Uh- When he would go up the tree, you always have to shoot him because coon will tear you all to pieces.474.6542
313DCA_int_01474.8758No kidding.475.5031
314DCA_se3_ag3_m_04475.5031Mm-hm.475.9486
315DCA_int_01476.0349They're vicious huh?476.9577
317 477.4350They look so cute. [<laugh>]479.3078 
318DCA_se3_ag3_m_04478.6851[<laugh>] Yes, but they'll tear you all to pieces.481.2931
319DCA_int_01482.7705What did you do with a possum when you caught it?484.7569
320DCA_se3_ag3_m_04485.2297Uh, we carried him home and-486.7786
322 487.6696and put him up and feed him for over a month. See, then he'll be ready to kill.491.8289 
323DCA_int_01491.9050Oh I [see.]492.6641
324DCA_se3_ag3_m_04492.2823[And see], then you skin him,493.7233
325 494.0960and you sell his hide.495.2643
327 495.7461And at that time, back in the countries his hide would always sell for six or eight dollars.499.9134 
328DCA_int_01500.0724No [kidding.]500.7134
329DCA_se3_ag3_m_04500.3361[See] you cure his hide.501.6998
330DCA_int_01502.2044Oh.502.5998
331DCA_se3_ag3_m_04502.4589Now the coon hide,503.8090
332 504.2033you get504.6715
334 504.8670um, thirty five506.1398 
336 506.6216to forty dollars507.5444 
338 507.7489/you know/.508.3217 
339DCA_int_01507.7899<whistle> That's not bad.509.3899
340DCA_se3_ag3_m_04509.1933Mm-mm.509.7434
341DCA_int_01510.6480Hm.510.8571
343 512.4889That's what-513.0708 
345 513.8163what I missed out on [growing] up around cities all the [time.]516.7335 
346DCA_se3_ag3_m_04514.8163[Uh-huh.]515.1663
348 516.2789[Um.]516.7607 
349 517.0608Well there are lots of people518.4836
351 519.0199went out519.4200 
353 519.7518for520.1291 
355 520.6746the mink hunting,521.6280 
357 521.9371but522.2826 
359 522.6508n- n- That was a little rough because you had to be so particular, you couldn't leave your scent when you set your trap.527.8999 
361 528.3908Now lots of people did catch the minks,530.3591 
363 531.1228and- and- they got good money for those hide when they killed 'em proper.534.5627 
364DCA_int_01534.8264Mm-hm.535.3991
366 536.0264Do they have mink down in North [Carolina?]537.7947 
367DCA_se3_ag3_m_04537.4447[Oh yes.] Yes, find ['em in the] swamps540.2437
368DCA_int_01539.2474[/Oh really/?]539.7944
369DCA_se3_ag3_m_04540.9846in- on the rivers. You know, North Carolina joins Dismal Swamp.545.0110
370DCA_int_01545.6019Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's right.547.1883
371DCA_se3_ag3_m_04547.2929You know in History, you read a lot [about Dismal] Swamp.549.8294
372DCA_int_01548.8748[Uh-huh.]549.2748
373 549.8464Yeah.550.1782
375 551.5556/Noted./552.0556 
377 552.9920Well how do these dogs get-554.0875 
379 554.6557get on the trail of these animals?556.7411 
380DCA_se3_ag3_m_04557.2956Well, when we leave home, we would go out into the forest,560.4367
382 560.9094and they just walk around and run around til they pick up564.0039 
383DCA_int_01564.4403Mm-hm.564.7858
384DCA_se3_ag3_m_04564.7676the scent of the track.565.8994
385 566.1904/Seen/, then they would trail.567.6768
386DCA_int_01568.4348How do you train one of those dogs? Or do they just do it by [instincts?]571.7759
387DCA_se3_ag3_m_04571.3531[Well,] I think it's just a573.0032
388 573.5703instinct of a dog.574.8067
389DCA_int_01574.8021Hm.575.0567
390 575.9931There's nothing you can do to train 'em?577.5250
391DCA_se3_ag3_m_04577.5250N- I don't think so. It's just a i- instinct.580.0649
392 581.5877But- but- I will say, now when a dog was small when you raise 'em,585.2879
394 585.5697see they'll follow the older dog and [the older] dog teach 'em quite a bit.589.5597 
395DCA_int_01587.5596[I see.]587.9232
396 589.8597So they learn from the-591.2041
397DCA_se3_ag3_m_04591.3177Yes.592.0223
398DCA_int_01592.2859/Oh boy./592.7996
400 593.5860Yeah, that's interesting.594.8088 
401DCA_se3_ag3_m_04594.8088Mm-hm.595.3042
402DCA_int_01595.3042I wished I could have done [that.]596.7214
403DCA_se3_ag3_m_04596.4998[Yeah.]597.1271
404DCA_int_01596.8896[<laugh>]597.4350
405 598.0851Never had the /chance/.599.2351
407 600.3943Thirty five dollars for a coon skin.602.2580 
408DCA_se3_ag3_m_04602.4160Oh- oh-602.8569
410 603.1751When it's cured [proper.]604.2479 
411DCA_int_01604.0524[When it's] cured right?604.9297
412DCA_se3_ag3_m_04604.9297Mm-hm.605.3343
413DCA_int_01606.8980/Hm./ Oh that's more /??/ fascinating to me.609.6833
415 612.1880Uh,612.5835 
417 613.3153what did you study in school?614.7745 
418DCA_se3_ag3_m_04615.4689[Uh],615.9643
419DCA_int_01615.5325[/That you remember./]616.3598
420DCA_se3_ag3_m_04617.1689well my favorite subject was History.619.2417
421DCA_int_01620.0236No kidding.620.5054
422DCA_se3_ag3_m_04620.5782Uh-huh.621.1180
423DCA_int_01622.6226What was so exciting about that?624.2272
424DCA_se3_ag3_m_04625.1091Well,625.8000
426 626.2546i- in History-627.3671 
428 628.1535See, w- when I was in s- school, George Washington had passed over a hundred years.632.8163 
430 633.2345You read about his life. Abraham Lincoln's life636.5255 
432 637.0846and637.6710 
434 638.0120Thomas Jefferson639.2018 
436 639.7245and lot of the great640.9246 
438 641.3383inventors that invented s- things that s- meant a lot to us today.644.7237 
440 645.0328I just enjoyed reading about it.646.6510 
441DCA_int_01646.7556/inaudible/647.6465
443 649.3409Wha-649.6091 
445 649.8273Where did the Dismal Swamp exactly fit into history? I know I've heard the name, but I can't654.5366 
447 654.8503place it in History.656.0901 
448DCA_se3_ag3_m_04656.3901Uh, well, you know north of Virginia658.5539
450 658.8539i- is known as tide water.660.7812 
452 661.3529Uh, uh, w- well,662.9438 
454 663.4711you know Dismal Swamp664.8439 
456 665.3894had some of the worst grizzly bear667.5566 
458 667.8748I think668.3748 
460 668.6930in- anywhere we have in this country.670.9249 
461DCA_int_01671.1976Hm.671.4249
462DCA_se3_ag3_m_04671.5431Not speaking of the foreign country,673.2841
464 673.5921an- and I think674.4830 
466 675.1467uh, those animals that676.5240 
468 676.7877Dismal Swamp had, that's why made it go down in History.679.9867 
469DCA_int_01680.2822Mm-hm.680.8504
471 681.6413Mm-hm.682.0913 
473 683.1687I didn't think there was grizzly- Boy, I'm learning more things today. <laugh>686.1404 
475 686.4540I didn't know there was- They were that far east. I thought-689.1723 
476DCA_se3_ag3_m_04688.6405O- Oh yes. Now you take north of about691.2668
477 691.6804two hundred and ten miles from here,693.3351
479 693.7896and when you would go through695.0715 
481 695.3579Petersburg and go four sixty through Suffolk,697.6614 
483 697.9750you had to go through the heart of Dismal Swamp.699.9115 
484DCA_int_01700.2206Hm.700.4252
486 701.4570They're all gone now, aren't they? The bears?703.5333 
487DCA_se3_ag3_m_04703.7469I-703.9651
489 704.5106uh- I don't think so [because]706.3470 
490DCA_int_01705.6925[Really?]706.0288
491DCA_se3_ag3_m_04706.6243I was down there September,708.1562
493 708.5642and the people were telling me709.8961 
495 710.3143they still see those bears.711.8825 
496DCA_int_01712.2371Gee whiz712.7507
497DCA_se3_ag3_m_04712.7917Yes.713.4280
498DCA_int_01713.8372Hm.714.0644
500 715.2361Incredible.715.9725 
502 716.9453Y- I don't- Guess I never learned much about [animal ?],720.0722 
503DCA_se3_ag3_m_04719.7988[Mm.]720.0625
504DCA_int_01720.6830but I thought they were all out west.722.3524
505DCA_se3_ag3_m_04722.5109Oh no.723.6766
506DCA_int_01723.7454/Wild America./724.5892
507DCA_se3_ag3_m_04724.7106No you take i-725.7411
509 726.5804Right near here. We have the deers and everything, but you don't have any bears around here.731.5173 
511 731.6992Th-731.8204 
513 732.1328Now Dismal Swamp is the nearest place I can tell about the bears.735.9284 
514DCA_int_01736.8552Do people hunt them there or is it [too dangerous?]739.4291
515DCA_se3_ag3_m_04738.3100[Oh- oh- uh- uh-] Well740.1985
516 740.5622when they go bear hunting, they always go on horseback.,742.8738
517DCA_int_01743.0976Mm-hm.743.5173
518DCA_se3_ag3_m_04743.5080because too dangerous, and they always carry the745.7788
519 746.0306high power rifles because747.7839
521 747.9925if you just shoot a bear with a ordinary shot gun,750.9628 
523 751.5690unless you have buckshot753.0378 
525 753.5973he'll grab up leaves and stop hisself from bleeding and come for you.756.6038 
526DCA_int_01756.9488Mm.757.2752
528 758.2964/Mkay/. Did you ever hunt759.5787 
530 759.8760[/inaudible/?]760.7433 
531DCA_se3_ag3_m_04760.3096For bear hunting?761.0044
532 761.2888Oh no.761.9649
533DCA_int_01762.4312Mm.762.7996
535 766.3236What else did you study besides history /inaudible/?769.3498 
536DCA_se3_ag3_m_04769.5177Well you know North Carolina /at/ that day,771.8620
538 772.2723you had history, E- English,774.5385 
540 775.0747uh,776.0633 
542 776.3897Spelling and- and-777.9750 
544 778.9578and we had two foreign languages so you could take Latin, uh,783.8585 
546 784.9578uh, French.785.9183 
548 786.6131Well, I taken Latin but I can't recall too much of it now. It's been so many years.791.8903 
549DCA_int_01792.4499Mm, remember any of the French?794.3104
550DCA_se3_ag3_m_04795.4668Uh- uh- I didn't take French. [I took Latin.]797.5826
551DCA_int_01796.7712[Oh you didn't.] You took Latin [instead of French.]798.8089
552DCA_se3_ag3_m_04798.0209[Uh-huh.] Yeah, see, you had a choice of two.800.4922
553 801.3455See you had to take802.0730
555 802.9298one of the subjects to graduate from high school.805.1027 
556DCA_int_01805.4384Mm-hm.806.0120
558 807.4808Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot anywhere809.6805 
560 810.0256along the line?810.8322 
561DCA_se3_ag3_m_04810.7903Well,811.6669
562 812.6415uh, all my teachers was pretty nice.814.9717
564 815.7738Uh, now my English teacher, I m- mind her very much because820.2303 
566 820.6360<sneeze>821.8064 
568 822.0069she had us all823.0281 
570 823.5177/boys/,824.3897 
572 824.9119and825.4155 
574 827.8330she always was on me because I was very mischievous, but831.3814 
575DCA_int_01831.3954Oh yeah?831.8710
576DCA_se3_ag3_m_04832.4446after years pass, I mind her very much for it.835.3251
577DCA_int_01835.7308Mm-hm.836.1877
579 836.6120Mm-hm.837.0643 
581 837.7265What did she holler about? Do you remember?839.6709 
582DCA_se3_ag3_m_04839.7642[Uh, n- n-] not getting my lesson.841.6188
583DCA_int_01839.8936[/inaudible/]840.4158
584 841.7820Oh.842.0525
586 844.6217Was it fair or845.4564 
588 845.7035do you think she was picking on you?847.1945 
589DCA_se3_ag3_m_04847.2551Well,847.9126
591 848.5048it- it- it wasn't a pi-849.7778 
593 850.1182pick.850.5005 
595 850.6591She was trying to help me,852.1512 
597 852.6023and at that age, you know, I didn't want to hear it.855.4094 
598DCA_int_01855.4241<laugh>856.4679
600 856.6591Hard for kids to understand that.858.3610 
601DCA_se3_ag3_m_04859.2085Well, n- n- no longer than860.7193
603 861.0737two weeks ago, I saw her at my sister's funeral,864.0253 
605 864.4298and I told her865.1992 
607 865.9173how much I minded her for it then. At that time I couldn't see it but I saw it870.1046 
609 870.4718now.870.8261 
610DCA_int_01870.8728Mm-mm.871.3297
612 872.6354No kidding.873.2136 
614 875.4517Uh could- What- Who was the best teacher you ever had? Would that be the one?879.0830 
615DCA_se3_ag3_m_04879.3021Yes, I- I- I'm going to say880.9108
617 881.2559Miss /RD-NAME-3/.882.4110 
619 882.8914Now she's married, and it's /RD-NAME-3/.885.2835 
620DCA_int_01885.6798Mm-hm.886.2534
622 888.1127What was there about her besides her trying to correct you?891.0783 
624 891.5819/inaudible/892.4306 
625DCA_se3_ag3_m_04892.1974Well,892.9761
626 893.4751now894.0719
628 894.4391she would always take895.8287 
630 896.5188more interest897.5260 
632 897.8244in not only me, all the children than some of the other teachers that I've had.901.5163 
633DCA_int_01901.8100Mm-hm.902.3509
635 904.2767That's really important.905.3818 
636DCA_se3_ag3_m_04906.2619It really is.907.3158
637DCA_int_01907.9779Did you ever have a teacher that you just couldn't stand?910.0995
638DCA_se3_ag3_m_04910.6404Oh- uh- Oh yes. [Oh yes.]912.9847
639DCA_int_01912.0195[<laugh>] What were they like?914.1970
640DCA_se3_ag3_m_04915.0690Well it was pretty miserable. I had a teacher when I was in the elementary school919.0723
642 919.3569/that just started at the school/.920.5875 
644 920.8859I was left handed,921.8337 
646 922.2068and she always whipped me923.6056 
647DCA_int_01923.7490Hm.924.0241
648DCA_se3_ag3_m_04925.3064for writing left handed. She always wanted me to write right handed.928.5798
650 929.4751And to the day, I'll never forget that I remember her for that.933.0504 
651DCA_int_01933.1949Hm.933.4793
652DCA_se3_ag3_m_04935.1720And I remember those days936.6863
654 937.0453when937.3391 
656 937.7960she got angry and wouldn't even let me go to the blackboard. At that time, you know, you had blackboards942.6769 
658 943.2225a- to write. All the other classes go to the /back/ board and write. I couldn't because I couldn't write in my right hand.949.1106 
659DCA_int_01949.2691Hm.949.6561
661 950.1318/Oh, that's nasty./ <laugh>951.9783 
663 952.5565Mm-hm.953.1160 
665 954.4671When you were955.3997 
667 955.7820back in your mischievous age,957.6006 
669 957.8524did you or any of the kids in the class ever play any tricks on the teacher?961.1852 
670DCA_se3_ag3_m_04962.9897No.963.8617
672 964.0389We didn't ever play any tricks on the teacher because966.3937 
674 966.7189our teachers were very strict. [<laugh>]969.5633 
675DCA_int_01968.2670[<laugh>]968.9897
676 970.3653Mm-hm.970.8875
678 972.1034Never put tacks on their chairs?973.8380 
679DCA_se3_ag3_m_04973.7214Oh no.974.3742
680DCA_int_01974.3602<laugh>974.7846
681DCA_se3_ag3_m_04974.7566<laugh> No [indeed.]976.2114
682DCA_int_01975.4187[Wouldn't think of it] then huh?976.8176
683DCA_se3_ag3_m_04976.7756No.977.4471
684DCA_int_01977.8423Mm-hm.978.4811
686 978.9101Good.979.2132 
687DCA_se3_ag3_m_04980.4209But the kids in the classroom, we played tricks on them, put tacks in the chairs and-985.4277
689 985.8800and pinned their coat987.2555 
691 987.8337down to the seat. They go to get up, they [have to take the whole chair up.]991.2971 
692DCA_int_01989.8656[<laugh>] That's funny.993.8664
693 994.2953Did you ever do any other things like that?996.1325
694DCA_se3_ag3_m_04996.1780Uh, that's about all in school.998.2810
695DCA_int_01999.7405Mm, good.1000.3979
697 1001.9320When you were1002.4110 
699 1002.8681that age or older even, was there a bunch of kids that you always hung around?1006.7943 
700DCA_se3_ag3_m_041007.1487Oh yes. Th- the kids that lived in my community.1010.2716
702 1010.6167See we always went around together.1013.1440 
703DCA_int_011013.4797Mm-hm.1013.9880
705 1014.9194Do you ever see any of 'em any more?1016.4861 
706DCA_se3_ag3_m_041016.7986No. As the years pass by,1019.0041
708 1019.5403you never see 'em anymore.1020.8075 
709DCA_int_011021.5955Is there a group of adults that you associate with now?1024.2860
710DCA_se3_ag3_m_041024.2580Now?1024.9202
711DCA_int_011025.7723[More or less.]1026.4485
712DCA_se3_ag3_m_041026.0241[N-]1026.2060
713 1026.8168No, the man live the next door to me,1029.7591
715 1030.0715we still see1030.7710 
717 1030.9994quite- quite a bit, but1032.5137 
719 1033.0686now1033.9079 
721 1034.5794at fifty, see, I don't get around like I used to.1037.9600 
722DCA_int_011041.0270Were they all colored kids that you would play with?1043.4751
724 1043.8563[/inaudible/]1044.8868 
725DCA_se3_ag3_m_041043.8854[Uh- uh in the country], when I was growing up, no see,1047.0457
726 1047.3674in the country where I growed up,1049.3165
728 1049.6709a white person live here, a Negro live there.1052.5934 
730 1053.2695And it wasn't as much in the country as it was in the city when I first left.1057.8193 
731DCA_int_011058.0199Hm.1058.3043
733 1060.8596Okay, /unintelligible/.1062.1232 
735 1063.8660Uh, did any of-1064.7706 
737 1065.3721besides what they learned in school- did any of1067.6616 
739 1068.2293the kids speak any foreign languages?1070.1784 
740DCA_se3_ag3_m_041070.2204Oh, no. Just what they learned in school.1072.5518
741DCA_int_011072.5984Mm-hm.1073.2699
743 1074.4438Oh, very good.1075.4510 
745 1076.9151Was there one kid1078.1415 
747 1078.4632that was looked up to as the leader that you remember?1081.2318 
748DCA_se3_ag3_m_041081.4370Oh- oh yes. You know, that's always the1083.6099
750 1084.0809case. See, in any community, there is one kid that1087.9406 
752 1088.1831you look up to and follow most.1090.0995 
753DCA_int_011090.9015Who was that?1091.7548
754DCA_se3_ag3_m_041092.0894Uh- uh- Well, that was um,1093.5349
756 1094.3183a boy that u-1095.2882 
758 1095.9130His name was /RD-NAME-4/.1097.4797 
759DCA_int_011097.6744Oh yeah?1098.1873
761 1098.9287What was he like that made him such a good leader?1101.3255 
762DCA_se3_ag3_m_041101.8990Well,1102.6124
763DCA_int_011102.7530<clears throat>1103.1393
764DCA_se3_ag3_m_041103.1533he's a fine person and1105.2318
766 1105.5769see, he- he liked to sing.1107.2742 
767DCA_int_011107.6519/inaudible/1108.2161
768DCA_se3_ag3_m_041107.9270In the- At- During that time, we always had quartets and had /courses/ and everything.1112.6307
769 1113.1436And he could sing better I thought, and so1115.8155
771 1116.5091uh, he- he always organized those things and the other things, we always1121.5870 
773 1121.9868leave it to him to organize because uh,1124.3416 
775 1125.0364he- he worked1125.6472 
777 1126.1228pretty good i- in the community. On things like that.1128.8028 
778DCA_int_011128.9054Mm.1129.2365
780 1131.0188It was partly his uh, singing ability.1132.8596 
781DCA_se3_ag3_m_041132.8782Yes.1133.6616
782DCA_int_011134.4065If a new kid moved into the-1135.7634
784 1136.0385into the community, could he get into the bunch or1138.5425 
786 1139.3632would he have to be initiated?1140.9334 
787DCA_se3_ag3_m_041141.4137Well, in the country, until I-1143.0923
789 1143.3674I was twenty one when I left there.1145.1067 
791 1145.5217See, you didn't have new people to move in.1147.8380 
792DCA_int_011147.8660Mm-hm.1148.3090
793DCA_se3_ag3_m_041148.3043It was just the regular bunch.1150.3140
794DCA_int_011151.6884You think if anyone had moved in,1153.6422
795DCA_se3_ag3_m_041154.1970Well-1154.8545
796DCA_int_011154.9245would you have accepted them?1156.3889
797DCA_se3_ag3_m_041156.3326Uh, I'm sure we'd have been more than glad to have them with us.1159.2505
798DCA_int_011159.4790Mm-hm.1159.9452
800 1162.2347It's different sometimes in the city cause1164.3086 
802 1165.3018/if you have/ a group of kids, and if a new kid wants to get in, he's got to be-1168.7570 
803DCA_se3_ag3_m_041168.8223All together different [here.]1170.1885
804DCA_int_011169.4424[/inaudible./]1170.1512
805 1170.5697Take some kind of punishment or something.1172.5095
806DCA_se3_ag3_m_041172.5281Mm.1172.8778
807DCA_int_011173.1576Get beat up or-1173.9838
809 1175.9180Uh,1176.1885 
811 1176.8355well that's really good.1177.8427 
813 1179.3068If you could start your life over again, would you do anything different?1182.3966 
814DCA_se3_ag3_m_041183.1852W- Well,1184.1318
816 1184.4488when I was a little boy,1185.8337 
818 1186.1321I used to hear my forefathers and elderly men sit and talk.1189.4976 
820 1190.2996They said, if I had my life to live again, I would live it so much differently.1194.4158 
822 1194.6210Well, I was a little boy then, and I always said to myself then,1198.0249 
824 1198.3513I said, now when I get that age,1200.3086 
826 1200.6816I don't d- be able to say those words. I- I want to say1203.7078 
828 1203.9783that1204.2627 
830 1204.9015the days I've passed I lived it so well, I don't regret it.1208.3090 
831DCA_int_011208.5654Mm-hm.1209.0643
833 1209.4747And that's the way you feel now?1210.7243 
834DCA_se3_ag3_m_041210.7057Oh sure, that's the way I feel now.1212.4158
835DCA_int_011212.4997Oh, that's great.1213.2505
837 1213.5163That's good.1214.2110 
839 1215.5959What did you hope to be when you were a child /inaudible/?1218.7982 
840DCA_se3_ag3_m_041219.5396Well, when I was a child, I wanted to be a brick layer.1222.4903
841DCA_int_011225.1619Didn't turn out?1225.9219
842DCA_se3_ag3_m_041226.2810Well,1226.7799
843DCA_int_011226.8872Or were you a break layer?1228.0435
844DCA_se3_ag3_m_041228.0389Yes.1228.6870
845 1229.0741Uh- uh,1229.7642
847 1230.1733h- I- I-1231.4090 
849 1231.6375take this1232.1504 
851 1232.3836course in school when I came out of the service.1234.7103 
852DCA_int_011234.9528Oh.1235.3072
853DCA_se3_ag3_m_041235.3305And I learned to be a brick layer by trade.1237.3297
854DCA_int_011237.7774Hm.1238.1224
855DCA_se3_ag3_m_041238.1737Well the cold winter months,1240.0016
857 1240.6637you didn't work.1241.3200 
858DCA_int_011241.4879Oh yeah?1242.0055
859DCA_se3_ag3_m_041242.1873I know there was times I traveled from city to city.1244.8638
861 1245.5912Uh, you work1246.5145 
863 1246.7476two, three hours a day when it freezing.1248.7236 
865 1249.0546Well,1249.5769 
867 1250.1551I decided to look for something different.1251.7684 
869 1252.5052Course the money were good, but1254.0952 
871 1255.0826I looked at it this way, if I could get a inside job1258.3653 
873 1258.6217in twelve months,1259.5776 
875 1259.8061it'll amount to the same.1261.5489 
877 1261.8800See, in the summer,1263.0690 
879 1263.3488there's some time when you catch up with the carpenters or1266.2759 
881 1266.4811you have to wait for 'em to pour concrete.1268.4955 
883 1268.7706You walk around two or three days and1270.6311 
885 1271.0041so, the job I have now1272.7003 
887 1273.0173/amounts, uh/1274.1737 
889 1274.3183about as much as the average brick layer make.1276.3326 
890DCA_int_011276.4446Mm-hm.1277.0228
892 1277.4273Hm.1277.7024 
894 1278.4671That's interesting.1279.5675 
896 1280.7939What did you have to do to become a brick layer?1282.8642 
898 1283.2186Was there a school? You said you went to school?1285.2085 
899DCA_se3_ag3_m_041285.4556Yes.1285.9266
901 1286.5234Uh, the GI school here on fourteenth street.1289.1020 
903 1289.6802W- Well, it was just instructors there1291.9406 
905 1292.2250to teach you how to build corners,1294.1415 
907 1294.4819th- that teach you how to build a fireplace,1296.6117 
909 1297.1386and teach you how to lay bricks on the line and everything.1300.1228 
910DCA_int_011300.9377Mm-hm.1301.3247
912 1302.2246How long did it take?1303.1712 
913DCA_se3_ag3_m_041303.3064Uh, well, just three months.1305.3115
914DCA_int_011306.3093Hm.1306.6451
916 1308.9054What does a- What actually does a brick layer do?1311.5679 
918 1312.5518I know, lay bricks of course, but-1314.5231 
919DCA_se3_ag3_m_041315.1292Uh- Uh-1315.8100
920DCA_int_011315.9452What kind of different jobs did you get on?1317.9596
922 1318.1182When you were a brick layer.1319.1533 
923DCA_se3_ag3_m_041319.9402Oh, I worked in- You mean what cities I worked- brick [laying work?]1323.0690
924DCA_int_011322.7426[No, what] kind of things did you do? What kind of things did you build?1326.1185
925DCA_se3_ag3_m_041327.4556Uh- uh- We build houses and apartments.1329.6752
926DCA_int_011329.7451Mm-hm.1330.2534
927DCA_se3_ag3_m_041331.5951See, a brick layer,1333.1945
929 1333.4650see, he would go around and find a1335.1203 
931 1335.3721contractor that needed brick layers see?1337.6942 
932DCA_int_011337.7350Mm-hm.1338.1653
934 1339.5815You had to go around on your own?1341.0970 
935DCA_se3_ag3_m_041341.1250Oh- oh yes.1342.3700
937 1342.7523[See just]-1343.1766 
938DCA_int_011342.8875[You] didn't work for one company?1344.4110
939DCA_se3_ag3_m_041344.7282Uh- uh, no.1345.8613
940DCA_int_011345.8893Hm.1346.2903
941DCA_se3_ag3_m_041346.3509Uh,1346.8405
942DCA_int_011347.0410<clears throat>1347.4980
943DCA_se3_ag3_m_041347.9503just /yourself/,1348.7290
945 1348.9855it's this company1350.1232 
947 1350.4298had a large1351.3531 
949 1351.6468contract,1352.3276 
951 1352.6307well sometime it last a year and a half or so.1354.8129 
953 1355.2734Well,1355.8982 
955 1356.4391when uh,1357.0826 
957 1357.6888he finish his building,1358.9804 
959 1359.2415Let's say if he had a new building.1360.5984 
961 1360.9482It take from three to four months to get ready for brick layers, you know. For digging out the foundation,1365.5866 
963 1365.9363pouring concrete1366.9015 
964DCA_int_011367.1160/Mm/.1367.4704
965DCA_se3_ag3_m_041367.5019to get ready for a brick layer.1368.7376
967 1369.0173And see, that's why1369.8706 
969 1370.1784you work from company to company.1371.7918 
970DCA_int_011371.9596I see.1372.5378
972 1373.2839Were you in union or anything?1374.7655 
973DCA_se3_ag3_m_041374.7702Oh, oh, no. I never joined a union.1376.5328
974DCA_int_011376.8079Mm.1377.2322
976 1377.7871You didn't join a union.1378.9575 
978 1380.0568Okay, here's a question that's going to test your imagination.1382.8452 
980 1383.2648Suppose someone were to give you all the money you ever wanted in the world.1386.6536 
982 1386.9008What would you do with it?1387.8100 
984 1388.7986Have you ever thought about that?1390.0296 
985DCA_se3_ag3_m_041391.4098Well,1392.2211
987 1393.4696I'm a1393.9359 
989 1394.5654kind of good Christian,1396.3093 
991 1397.3212uh,1398.2817 
993 1399.2924I would spread it amongst the needy.1400.8172 
994DCA_int_011401.9410Hm.1402.2207
995DCA_se3_ag3_m_041402.2814That's right.1402.8409
997 1403.4144That's right.1403.9320 
998DCA_int_011405.0546Do you know you would do it? How you-1406.8592
1000 1408.4399Would you give it an organization?1410.1232 
1001DCA_se3_ag3_m_041410.6350U- Uh,1411.4183
1003 1411.6002yes.1412.3183 
1005 1412.7379You know, different organization.1414.2068 
1006DCA_int_011416.4811Mm-hm.1416.9381
1008 1417.1386Do you have any in particular in mind?1419.1187 
1009DCA_se3_ag3_m_041419.7078Well, one.1421.1440
1011 1421.4273/I'm a fond of children/1422.6723 
1013 1423.4370Uh, you ever heard of the Catholics home they had had1426.8596 
1015 1427.4832for the-1427.9355 
1017 1428.3039the children that don't have fathers and mothers.1430.2577 
1018DCA_int_011430.2017Mm-hm.1430.6727
1019DCA_se3_ag3_m_041431.4840Well, th- that's the first place.1434.4858
1020DCA_int_011437.1343Okay, suppose you could give1438.2580
1022 1438.5285hundreds of thousands of dollars to1440.4578 
1024 1441.1432the needy and still had1442.2716 
1026 1443.1343a hundred thousand left over for yourself,1445.0787 
1028 1445.4040what would you do?1446.2433 
1029DCA_se3_ag3_m_041446.2293Well, that's the problem1447.7447
1030 1448.0432n- now.1448.8825
1032 1449.3768We have so many people in need and /unintelligible/ hunger right here in America1454.2250 
1034 1454.8405I don't think I would ha- have that much left.1456.7243 
1035DCA_int_011457.2233You wouldn't keep any.1458.1792
1036DCA_se3_ag3_m_041458.1640No indeed.1459.0267
1037 1459.2318Uh- uh- uh- uh- Enough to live on. Like I'd pick up the paper.1463.2139
1039 1463.6324Now right here in Mississippi I was reading about not long ago,1466.8592 
1041 1467.1949now they has /counters/ in Mississippi1469.1347 
1043 1469.4739but the average person only make three hundred dollars a year.1472.5048 
1044DCA_int_011472.4955Oh.1472.8125
1045DCA_se3_ag3_m_041473.3814That's right. Three hundred dollars a year.1475.3818
1047 1475.8143Now that's happening right here in Mississippi and Alabama.1478.5048 
1048DCA_int_011479.7778S- How can anybody ever make it?1481.5170
1050 1482.3878On that.1482.9847 
1051DCA_se3_ag3_m_041483.7774Well, i- it's pr- pretty rough.1486.2324
1053 1487.9833Uh, a few years ago, about three years ago, you know Mr Drew Pearson got a -1492.7523 
1055 1493.0321a lot of criticism1494.3179 
1057 1494.6536because he and Dick Gregory1496.2716 
1059 1496.6913loaded up /these here/ cargo planes, and- You might read about it- and send it down for [Christmas.]1500.7935 
1060DCA_int_011500.5231[Mm-hm.] /Yes, I did./1501.9219
1061 1502.7519Mm-hm. Yeah, that's right.1504.0202
1062DCA_se3_ag3_m_041504.1135Mm-hm.1504.5658
1064 1506.1407See I [always]1506.8541 
1065DCA_int_011506.4764[/Unintelligible/]1507.2365
1066DCA_se3_ag3_m_041507.2924had a tender feeling for the person that1509.1436
1068 1509.4793was a little bit unfortunate than I am.1512.0486 
1069DCA_int_011511.9915Uh-huh.1512.9008
1070 1516.3839What about your job here? What do you do in a day's work?1519.5349
1071DCA_se3_ag3_m_041519.7121U- Uh- I'm property and supply clerk.1521.7218
1072DCA_int_011522.1881Hm.1522.5658
1073DCA_se3_ag3_m_041522.8362And i- i- in a day's work, see, I issue supplies for all the local board.1527.8524
1075 1528.3606[After-]1528.7850 
1076DCA_int_011528.4166[Oh.]1528.7710
1077DCA_se3_ag3_m_041528.9295After I issue supplies,1530.4811
1079 1532.0711I- I have to put it on record.1533.5633 
1080DCA_int_011534.0762Mm-hm.1534.6311
1082 1535.7210How do you issue? Do you-1536.7422 
1083DCA_se3_ag3_m_041537.7447By reposition.1538.9338
1084DCA_int_011539.4840Mm-hm.1539.9503
1086 1540.4632You don't have to carry it or put it on a truck.1542.6396 
1087DCA_se3_ag3_m_041543.0127Uh- Uh, [no. See], all our local boards is right here in one [building.]1546.2580
1088DCA_int_011543.6095[/inaudible/]1544.0059
1090 1545.8337[Right /inaudible/.]1546.7773 
1091DCA_se3_ag3_m_041547.2979Now, if I w-1548.1652
1093 1548.4205was property and supply1549.5629 
1095 1550.0152clerk just for1551.1669 
1097 1551.4234the state of Maryland,1552.4166 
1099 1552.7756see,1553.2885 
1101 1554.0521I- I would have to mail it out to the various local board.1556.6260 
1102DCA_int_011558.2674What kind of supplies mostly? Office?1560.2853
1103DCA_se3_ag3_m_041560.9054Uh- Uh- Well, pencils, paper,1563.6146
1105 1564.7896a thousand and fifty different phones that you use1567.7587 
1107 1568.0385for local board, they have to be issued.1569.7591 
1108DCA_int_011570.1321Mm-hm.1570.6591
1110 1571.0601There's that many.1571.8232 
1111DCA_se3_ag3_m_041572.1640Oh, yes. We have eleven hundred and seven different phones1575.3954
1113 1575.7218that we use i- in state headquarters.1578.0288 
1115 1580.6027Don't like it would take that many phones to get a man in [Service, do it?]1583.8667 
1116DCA_int_011582.9110[<laugh>]1584.0568
1117 1584.6956Yeah, well,1585.4510
1119 1585.7820I guess it doesn't su-1586.5981 
1121 1587.1996s-1587.5400 
1123 1588.1694Um,1588.5098 
1125 1590.1360how did- do you celebrate Christmas?1592.5654 
1127 1594.2161How did you?1595.2746 
1128DCA_se3_ag3_m_041595.5019Well,1596.3272
1129DCA_int_011596.3972/inaudible/1597.0406
1131 1598.1924/Or Thanksgiving./1599.1763 
1132DCA_se3_ag3_m_041599.0270It's a great diff- At Christmas1600.7943
1133 1601.2559ever to my mother pass ei- eight years ago,1603.9499
1135 1604.3183I would always go to North Carolina1606.0389 
1137 1606.3326to spend Christmas with my mother.1607.8388 
1139 1609.1292But now, my wife and I,1610.6307 
1141 1610.9711our stepson is growing up now, you know.1613.2979 
1143 1613.5776When you get twenty years old, you know, it's no more fun. It always gone.1617.1252 
1145 1617.6146We just celebrate a quiet Christmas at home mostly now.1620.6117 
1146DCA_int_011620.6070Mm-hm.1621.2551
1147 1622.4861When you used to go1623.3208
1149 1623.6099to North Carolina,1624.8269 
1151 1625.6756uh,1625.9647 
1153 1626.8495what did you do to celebrate Christmas? Did you have decorations?1630.3886 
1154DCA_se3_ag3_m_041630.4166Well,1631.0647
1156 1631.6045in North Carolina, we had beautiful decoration.1634.5887 
1158 1635.2648Holly, Cedar and everything.1637.2046 
1160 1637.8714And w-1638.5930 
1162 1639.3064you know,1639.8193 
1164 1640.1644the mother,1640.9058 
1166 1641.0970when she get old, she just enjoyed1643.2419 
1168 1643.5916seeing us decorate for Christmas, and you know in N-1646.4908 
1170 1646.7986in- in the country, that's when we had that big dinner on Christmas day, and the whole family1652.8965 
1172 1653.6892come in and join.1654.7243 
1173DCA_int_011655.4972What did you have to eat?1656.7376
1174DCA_se3_ag3_m_041656.8028Well, chicken, turkey,1658.8359
1176 1659.3721you know down there we have hogs and cows, beef.1662.9847 
1178 1665.3907And most people around there, all they would kill a hog for Christmas1668.9940 
1179DCA_int_011669.2458Mm-hm.1669.8333
1181 1671.0970A real big feast.1672.1648 
1182DCA_se3_ag3_m_041672.0902Oh yes.1672.9575
1183DCA_int_011673.4832How many people would be there?1674.8821
1184DCA_se3_ag3_m_041675.8427Uh, well, it was six of us in our family.1678.7943
1186 1679.2373When some of 'em got married, see,1681.2645 
1188 1681.6375it was there husband and- and wives and some had children, and their children.1686.7515 
1189DCA_int_011686.9101Mm.1687.2738
1190DCA_se3_ag3_m_041687.8940And so you know, it was quite a few [people.]1689.9270
1191DCA_int_011689.5539[<laugh>]1690.5145
1192 1690.7476I guess there really was.1691.9600
1194 1693.1712Do your remember the best Christmas present you ever got?1695.5400 
1195DCA_se3_ag3_m_041697.3818Well the best Christmas present I ever got-1699.3810
1197 1700.0572When I was1700.7519 
1199 1701.2835twenty one years old1702.6451 
1201 1703.3025my father bought me a nineteen thirty Ford.1706.0117 
1203 1706.2483I think that's the happiest Christmas I ever witnessed.1709.2221 
1204DCA_int_011709.2221Oh yeah?1709.8842
1206 1710.5744Uh,1710.7888 
1208 1711.7447what was it? What did it look like?1713.2322 
1209DCA_se3_ag3_m_041713.3768It was a nineteen thirty Ford.1715.1019
1211 1715.4797Oh, i- it kind of looked like a buggy.1717.1852 
1212DCA_int_011717.6095Uh-huh.1718.0245
1213DCA_se3_ag3_m_041718.0292Uh-huh.1718.6074
1214DCA_int_011719.5166How long did you keep it?1720.6451
1215DCA_se3_ag3_m_041721.7921oh, I- I- I kept it until I went to the Army.1724.7519
1217 1725.0317Nineteen forty two.1726.2415 
1218DCA_int_011726.9575No kidding.1727.5077
1219DCA_se3_ag3_m_041728.0055Mm-hm, I [kept]-1729.2038
1220DCA_int_011728.9567[They really] built 'em in those days. ??1731.0737
1221DCA_se3_ag3_m_041731.5726I- it was almost four years.1733.4890
1222DCA_int_011733.6697Mm-hm.1734.0270
1224 1734.9910/Okay./1735.5051 
1226 1736.6496What did you do in the Army?1737.8518 
1227DCA_se3_ag3_m_041738.5285Uh- uh-1739.2921
1228DCA_int_011739.3110What branch were you in?1740.4073
1229DCA_se3_ag3_m_041740.7135Uh- I was in quartermaster.1742.4704
1230DCA_int_011744.3719What did you have to do?1745.4455
1231DCA_se3_ag3_m_041745.6648Huh, uh- Well,1746.6061
1233 1746.9907I- I- I worked in the /PS/.1749.1266 
1235 1749.9356Special Service.1750.9865 
1236DCA_int_011753.2046Hm.1753.4995
1238 1754.2782Interesting.1754.9322 
1239DCA_se3_ag3_m_041755.9945And I spent four years and eighteen days1758.4659
1241 1758.7683in the Service.1759.6113 
1242DCA_int_011761.3040That was during the war?1762.6649
1243DCA_se3_ag3_m_041762.6838That was during World War II when things was pretty hot.1765.1524
1244DCA_int_011766.1721Did you go overseas?1767.1550
1245DCA_se3_ag3_m_041767.1815No, spent four years and eighteen days in the United States.1769.9940
1246DCA_int_011771.5997You were lucky in a way.1772.6128
1247DCA_se3_ag3_m_041772.6091That was really luck.1773.6071
1248DCA_int_011774.3140Mm.1774.5673
1250 1778.0102Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die?1781.8917 
1251DCA_se3_ag3_m_041782.1827When I was in the Service?1783.2639
1252DCA_int_011783.4945Either in the Service or somewhere else.1785.3280
1253DCA_se3_ag3_m_041785.3695No.1785.8950
1255 1786.5140In the Service, I- I- I have never been in that situation.1788.9561 
1256DCA_int_011789.9012You never were in any danger or1791.4275
1257DCA_se3_ag3_m_041792.0475[No.]1792.6826
1258DCA_int_011792.2441[/kind of/ serious?]1792.9170
1259 1795.3846Sometimes people say that /what's evers/ gonna happen, it's gonna happen.1798.7151
1260DCA_se3_ag3_m_041798.8587Well, that's the way I feel.1800.3283
1261DCA_int_011800.3434Do you agree with that?1801.0882
1262DCA_se3_ag3_m_041801.0730Yes.1801.7989
1263DCA_int_011802.5020You don't think there's any point in trying to1804.6606
1265 1806.0886uh,1806.4817 
1267 1806.9240change the future?1808.1829 
1268DCA_se3_ag3_m_041808.7613No, I really don't.1809.8689
1269DCA_int_011810.6770Hm.1810.9794
1270DCA_se3_ag3_m_041810.9907Because I-1811.7317
1272 1812.4613We don't know about it, but I think your future's already mapped out.1815.7001 
1273DCA_int_011815.8891Mm-hm.1816.5317
1275 1817.2538Is this1817.5827 
1277 1818.0212part of your religious faith?1819.4577 
1278DCA_se3_ag3_m_041819.5182Oh, no.1820.3263
1280 1820.7912No.1821.2789 
1281DCA_int_011821.6380It's just something you-1822.5491
1282DCA_se3_ag3_m_041822.5415Y- Believe, that's right.1824.1519