LineSpeakerSt TimeContentEn Time
1DCB_int_010.4056And where were you born?1.5736
2DCB_se1_ag1_m_012.0923Washington DC.2.8877
3DCB_int_013.2719And what neighborhood?4.0042
4DCB_se1_ag1_m_014.7995Congress Heights.5.5318
5DCB_int_016.1050Congress Heights?6.7203
6DCB_se1_ag1_m_016.7894Yes.7.2546
7DCB_int_018.2840And where's that?8.6952
8DCB_se1_ag1_m_019.1514Uh,9.6047
10 10.2289up the street.10.7582 
11DCB_int_0111.6215[Southeast?]12.1835
12DCB_se1_ag1_m_0111.6875[/I would say-/] yeah.12.4548
13DCB_int_0113.8994Have you lived in any other neighborhoods?15.4121
14DCB_se1_ag1_m_0115.7812No.16.1654
15DCB_int_0116.2885Have you lived anywhere else besides DC?17.7471
16DCB_se1_ag1_m_0118.1163Uh, when I was three I m- moved to Pennsylvania.20.4549
17DCB_int_0120.7664For how long?21.3006
18DCB_se1_ag1_m_0121.9549Uh, for a year.22.7563
19DCB_int_0128.8159Cool.29.1972
21 29.8964Um, currently you are a senior? No- or did you [graduate?]33.0568 
22DCB_se1_ag1_m_0132.6816[I'm a-]33.0087
23 33.1108I'm a graduate.33.7921
24DCB_int_0133.9031Okay.34.2452
26 34.6294What- where'd you go to school?35.4494 
27DCB_se1_ag1_m_0136.0460/RD-SCHOOL-6/.36.8860
28DCB_int_0137.3636/RD-SCHOOL-2/.38.1139
30 38.3090Cool.38.7877 
32 41.2202And-42.6099 
34 43.4683so what are your plans now?44.4197 
35DCB_se1_ag1_m_0144.9238Uh,45.3951
37 46.4095I want to-46.7817 
39 46.8988I'm47.1449 
41 47.4179going to pursue48.1593 
43 48.3484IT.48.7990 
45 50.6894And I'm'a start a, uh,51.7267 
47 53.5856a non-profit54.9776 
49 56.6559program57.1856 
51 57.3492called Big Brother.58.1039 
52DCB_int_0161.4910And what is Big Brother?62.3524
53DCB_se1_ag1_m_0163.0097[It's bas-]63.4059
54DCB_int_0163.0547[Or what do] you /want it/ to be?64.0362
55DCB_se1_ag1_m_0164.5854it's basically from ages six to66.5633
57 66.7704twenty-five,67.3376 
58DCB_int_0167.5417Mm-hm.67.9690
59DCB_se1_ag1_m_0168.1689showing68.6903
61 69.1954that69.5075 
63 70.8491all young black men shouldn't72.4968 
65 72.6468go to the streets73.4692 
67 73.8114they first answer.74.6727 
69 75.3300Or they first try.76.0954 
71 76.9957So basically it is78.4004 
73 79.3007a mentoring program80.2852 
75 81.3000from,81.7507 
77 82.2961you would be in the mentoring program from six to eighteen-84.3820 
79 84.7991ages six85.4684 
81 85.5855to85.9066 
83 86.0567eighteen,86.6300 
85 87.1612then from eighteen88.0376 
87 88.1186to twenty five you have the chance to be a mentor.90.1565 
88DCB_int_0190.9457Ah so it's kind of a full cycle92.4944
89DCB_se1_ag1_m_0192.7706Uh-huh.93.1037
90DCB_int_0193.2268thing. [I'm gonna] clip this here so I can turn your volume up.95.8500
91DCB_se1_ag1_m_0193.5089[And one-]93.8356
92 96.2911And once you in college we will try to do99.2294
94 100.0007uh, a scholarship.101.0981 
95DCB_int_01101.7955[For the-]102.2277
96DCB_se1_ag1_m_01101.8796[For all] your years.102.8289
97 103.3472As long as you still participate in the program.105.3521
98DCB_int_01105.8353Cool.106.3515
100 106.6455And how do you um- where do you think you're gonna get your-109.3095 
102 109.4338your guys from? You wanna do it in the DC area or you wanna go-112.0450 
103DCB_se1_ag1_m_01112.0780Yeah I'm gonna start from112.9724
105 113.1794DMV area.113.9114 
106DCB_int_01114.0678Okay.114.4069
107DCB_se1_ag1_m_01114.4039DC.114.7941
108 115.0943Perhaps.115.7116
109DCB_int_01115.9796And then116.4743
111 116.5589what is your um,117.9035 
113 118.3416what do your parents do?119.3080 
114DCB_se1_ag1_m_01120.1274Uh, my mom121.4000
116 122.5435she's a security guard.123.7890 
117DCB_int_01130.7761Mm-hm.131.0851
118DCB_se1_ag1_m_01131.1962And my dad131.8265
120 132.1386is a maintenance worker.133.1231 
121DCB_int_01133.5973Oh.133.9575
123 134.7588And where were they born?135.6052 
124DCB_se1_ag1_m_01136.3014Washington DC.136.9281
126 137.7480[I mean my mom-]138.3272 
127DCB_int_01137.7750[Oh both were-]138.3693
128DCB_se1_ag1_m_01138.4533[my mom] was Washington D- I think my dad was North Carolina.140.6826
129DCB_int_01138.4533[Mm-hm.]138.8160
130 149.0509We'll see how this goes, we may have to move just cause of the-151.6817
132 152.3134if I can pick you up, I think it's picking you up154.1832 
134 154.3212fine though.154.7805 
136 155.1166Okay.155.3807 
138 155.6628So,156.0201 
140 156.7433tell me a little bit about Congress Heights, um, your family160.8761 
142 161.2453um,161.7239 
144 162.4428your neighborhood.163.3550 
145DCB_se1_ag1_m_01164.7478Uh, well,165.4878
147 165.7502basically166.7256 
149 167.4129as of today, Congress Heights has lost in170.3216 
151 170.4657a month171.2097 
153 171.9504I would say three weeks we had lost two,173.8351 
155 174.4633we had two killings there,175.6878 
157 176.7881as of right now. But growing up in Congress Heights it was-179.2252 
159 180.3616it was fun181.1420 
161 181.9943but it was difficult183.1717 
163 183.8391cause it was still184.8115 
165 184.9676a185.3077 
167 186.1237neighborhood against neighborhood187.2922 
169 187.3883type of188.0966 
171 189.0531beef and190.0774 
173 190.9218I n- my191.7778 
175 191.8741parents grew up around there so I was193.6109 
177 193.7508pretty- I was safe but I wasn't safe.195.3356 
178DCB_int_01195.7515Mm-hm.196.0836
179DCB_se1_ag1_m_01196.7679Uh, I had /began before the street life/ for- to age fourteen200.2616
181 201.1417because of the situations that happened around there.203.1097 
183 204.0629Uh,204.7216 
185 206.4240my grandmother207.5173 
187 209.9412was a alcoholic.210.9359 
189 211.8619She's uh, clean now for about214.0667 
191 214.3748three- three years now.215.7388 
193 216.9919And my mom217.7403 
195 218.2285raised us-218.9048 
197 219.0649raised me and my three brothers220.2574 
199 220.5853as a single parent.221.5733 
201 221.8179My dad was locked up for seven years.223.8899 
203 224.9871Uh-225.7114 
204DCB_int_01228.0082Are you the youngest, oldest?229.4128
205DCB_se1_ag1_m_01229.3728I'm the oldest.230.0491
206DCB_int_01230.3690You're the oldest, so how old are your brothers?232.0130
207DCB_se1_ag1_m_01232.2539Uh, /RD-NAME-2/233.2992
209 233.8306he's234.3708 
211 234.4709twelve,234.9391 
213 235.5365/RD-NAME-2/ is ten.236.3875 
214DCB_int_01237.5720And then238.6766
216 239.1528y-239.3489 
218 239.4929that's239.7516 
220 239.9210two.240.2463 
222 240.3732Y- it's- there's three of you total.241.5658 
223DCB_se1_ag1_m_01242.1057Yeah.242.3977
224DCB_int_01242.5939Oh, oh, oh, oh okay I was- added244.2237
226 244.3548four.244.6509 
228 244.7750I w- I don't know why I was adding it. Okay.246.2236 
230 246.6796And247.4479 
232 248.2363so do you think,249.2367 
234 249.8569especially in this neighborhood you said that252.0899 
236 252.2257it was just a lot going on, but that was the neighborhood your parents grew up in,255.5352 
237DCB_se1_ag1_m_01255.5070Mm.255.8391
238DCB_int_01256.1713how do you feel like being a young black man259.1313
240 259.7208and seeing kind of this-261.3055 
242 261.6814this neighborhood and this going on around you?263.8984 
243DCB_se1_ag1_m_01264.9188Um, I was scared,265.8974
245 266.1593/I'm/ still am,266.8837 
247 266.9994because267.8158 
249 268.4041my268.9494 
251 269.1484cousin got killed269.8368 
253 269.9648in front of my house.270.8852 
255 272.4137Yeah.272.7550 
257 273.0460He got killed,273.5742 
259 273.7143he got shot seven times.275.1709 
261 275.9430My uncle got killed276.9035 
263 277.3075in the same place.278.2881 
265 279.6285It's-279.9231 
267 280.0847it was-280.3448 
269 280.4208it's hard281.0328 
271 281.3332growing up281.9052 
273 282.2695around there it's hard growing up in any283.8663 
275 284.0341DC neighborhood284.8874 
277 285.5308because you don't know286.6153 
279 286.8234what's gonna happen.287.4757 
281 287.6598You have to live-288.3161 
283 289.1922you have to live day by day290.4869 
285 291.6851in291.9332 
287 292.3814terror.292.9694 
289 293.1537/Like,/293.8591 
291 294.0301every person you see they will say, be safe before the end of a conversation.297.0487 
293 297.4194That shouldn't be happening.298.2998 
294DCB_int_01298.8841Why do you feel like that?299.9726
295DCB_se1_ag1_m_01300.4125Because301.1552
297 301.4490the way our generation is,302.9196 
299 304.2901it's304.8461 
301 305.0224more the streets and306.3270 
303 306.4230peer pressure307.0353 
305 307.1674that gets to a lot of us.308.1919 
307 309.7923And310.3326 
309 312.0172like,312.2894 
311 312.9777when I talk to my grandfather about it- what's happening,314.8630 
313 315.8187he said back when they used to be kids the neighborhood used to watch k-318.7601 
315 318.9998watch you.319.4717 
317 320.2123Like, somebody else parent can get on you.322.0011 
318DCB_int_01322.3692Mm-hm.323.0678
319DCB_se1_ag1_m_01323.0575And now it's not like that,324.0900
320 324.2701if somebody else parent get325.3826
322 325.4906to you325.9200 
324 326.3587/it's gonna be/ another altercation327.4854 
326 327.7554that's trying to solve that first altercation.329.4002 
327DCB_int_01329.5281Yup.329.8722
329 332.0411Do you think that332.8975 
331 333.1855<clears throat> your mom had it really rough?334.9055 
332DCB_se1_ag1_m_01335.5985Yeah.336.0598
334 337.0790She moved out my grandma house at f-339.2080 
336 339.3479at the age of fourteen,340.8526 
338 341.6770got pregnant with me at sixteen.343.2583 
340 344.6901So it was hard.345.5665 
342 347.4351She had it hard, sh- she still do.349.0018 
344 349.8721I just wanna help her now351.0486 
346 351.4248cause I'm old enough to understand what's going on now.353.6408 
348 354.8980And help my little brothers, that's why I wanna start this program.357.1540 
349DCB_int_01359.0837Um, are you the first one in your family to graduate from high school?361.6966
350DCB_se1_ag1_m_01361.8807Uh, no,362.2449
352 362.3409my- me and my cousin graduated this-363.6455 
354 363.7616this year.364.3007 
355DCB_int_01364.6098Oh [okay.]365.1901
356DCB_se1_ag1_m_01364.9139[My little] cousin.365.5102
357 365.6343Yeah.365.9556
358DCB_int_01366.0905Cool.366.5427
360 366.9149But367.1842 
362 367.3948out of like your-368.4001 
364 368.6514your-368.9461 
366 369.2157neither your mom or dad graduated from high school?371.1797 
367DCB_se1_ag1_m_01371.3325No.371.7912
368DCB_int_01372.0088No?372.2649
370 373.1453Um, are you going to college?374.6213 
371DCB_se1_ag1_m_01375.1500Uh,375.5753
373 376.0384not as of right now but I hope to.378.1871 
374DCB_int_01378.5713And you wanna do IT?379.7398
375DCB_se1_ag1_m_01379.8039Yeah I'm'a [do] IT.380.6523
376DCB_int_01380.1720[A-]380.3041
377 380.7763and then381.5207
379 381.6124what do you wanna do specifically like383.5213 
381 383.9575there- cause that's a big field.385.0297 
382DCB_se1_ag1_m_01384.9980I know, I wanna do385.9073
383 386.0422uh, the-386.5702
385 386.8544some computers.387.8264 
387 388.1831It's like, I wanna work at- no, like I just wanna do everything.390.3881 
388DCB_int_01391.8806I mean computers is a good job, you're always gonna have a job.394.1977
390 394.5054Like394.7627 
392 395.1457that's- technology is really [booming.]397.5057 
393DCB_se1_ag1_m_01397.1386[Yeah.]397.5228
394 397.5949In the school I was doing- I was in the uh,399.5998
396 399.8838computer science class so I learned how to do coding so402.7009 
398 403.3611that really got me interested in it.404.9904 
399DCB_int_01405.2899So,405.7141
401 405.9462let me ask you a couple different questions407.5708 
403 407.7228kind of based on that.408.7233 
405 409.4432Thinking about- have you- so you haven't really lived anywhere else outside of Congress Heights413.8533 
407 413.9573but414.2775 
409 415.4177you've traveled to other neighborhoods417.0905 
411 417.3266and then you've gone to418.5912 
413 418.9912um-419.3554 
415 419.5832So tell me kind of what do you see that's different from421.9443 
417 422.2284where you live versus423.8852 
419 424.0812like some of the other425.0376 
421 425.1657neighborhoods,426.0741 
423 426.3619do you see a difference? Are you allowed to go into other [neighborhoods?]429.2993 
424DCB_se1_ag1_m_01429.1281[Oh] yeah.429.6644
425 429.9755I'm allowed to go in other neighborhoods because my family's mostly433.2450
427 433.6009spread out through DC, [so.]435.1856 
428DCB_int_01434.9615[Okay.]435.3737
429DCB_se1_ag1_m_01436.0257Yeah.436.3499
431 436.4499It's different but it's437.4779 
433 437.7345still the same, it's not-438.7270 
435 439.4313The environment different,440.3876 
437 440.5876the way it look is different but441.7281 
439 442.2323in general it's still the same.443.2208 
441 443.8249Like you still have to watch over your shoulder.445.6257 
443 445.9137The people you grew up with, you still gotta be careful who your friends is.448.9551 
445 449.3629Cause like,449.8109 
447 450.8436DC is a cycle451.9241 
449 452.0320and I don't think it's gonna break.453.2887 
450DCB_int_01454.2891What do you mean?454.9824
451DCB_se1_ag1_m_01455.1453It's like,455.6347
453 457.0862if you grew up with somebody458.1947 
455 458.6148and y'all get into it,459.5068 
457 460.2514or if you more successful than them, you have to watch out.462.8486 
459 463.3204Maybe they might try and rob you or they probably try to kill you,465.8576 
461 466.3258or stuff like that.467.0301 
463 467.1582Like, I don't think467.8862 
465 468.2824that cycle's gonna break.469.3589 
467 470.2233Cause I don't-470.6675 
469 470.8356everybody wants the same goal but nobody else trying to reach it.473.3485 
470DCB_int_01474.8092So do you see-475.8332
472 477.7141I wanna talk about your high school in a minute,479.5181 
474 480.0112um, cause I've heard some interesting stories about /RD-SCHOOL-2/,482.1199 
476 482.6561but do you see-483.9087 
478 484.9375<ts>484.9971 
480 485.3372are turf wars like486.2616 
482 486.6218real? Do you see that [happening?]488.2903 
483DCB_se1_ag1_m_01487.8021[Mm.] Yeah.488.9701
484DCB_int_01489.5269[Can you tell] me a little bit about it?490.6994
485DCB_se1_ag1_m_01489.5989[It's-]489.8470
486 491.1193well,491.5435
488 491.8277it's a hood on hood situation.493.6103 
490 494.1687Like this neighborhood495.2771 
492 495.4612I guess Parkland is497.0218 
494 497.4940beefing with a hood that's r- literally right down the street.499.8991 
496 500.2070Twenty second500.9323 
498 501.0994is literally-501.8037 
500 502.4557only thing that separate 'em is the Boys and Girls Club504.3046 
502 504.4247and these row houses- town houses.506.0597 
504 506.9214Other than that507.5577 
506 507.9379it's basically508.8383 
508 508.9904nothing that separates them.510.0588 
509DCB_int_01511.2034And what- what happens? Like,512.5399
511 512.8080you know.513.3146 
512DCB_se1_ag1_m_01513.3282It's either you-514.6488
514 515.3930you get jumped,516.1294 
516 517.4859you get shot at518.1902 
518 518.3223or you get-518.7356 
520 518.8465you get robbed.519.7665 
522 521.0991It's just a lot of stuff can happen.522.8285 
524 523.7724Like I heard people got kidnapped.525.3343 
526 526.3108It just a lot.527.0214 
527DCB_int_01528.2196So how do people come like-529.6196
529 530.0987and do we have kids here at this club from both neighborhoods? Or is it mostly one [neighborhood?]535.1409 
530DCB_se1_ag1_m_01534.6807[It's mostly]535.5010
531 535.6170one, it's mostly one.536.5717
532DCB_int_01536.8374Is it537.1016
534 537.3897Parkland or Twenty second?538.3857 
535DCB_se1_ag1_m_01538.8182It's uh- some of it's majority Parkland but541.5315
537 541.8753it's people from my neighborhood who comes down here.543.9163 
539 544.3123And my cousin545.1097 
541 545.2846she's from-546.3381 
543 547.1055/I mean/ she's don't really claim nothing548.8823 
545 549.2142but549.5543 
547 550.0226she's uh, Forestville she comes down here.551.9434 
549 552.4954It's like,553.0197 
551 553.0997a mixture.553.7610 
553 555.0366But555.2527 
555 555.9888But I say /live it/ like,556.9501 
557 557.3054going around South Forestville is different you can see it's559.4424 
559 559.6422different.560.0384 
561 560.9508Because561.5921 
563 562.0153it's nothing, it's a lot of things that separate563.9326 
565 564.6921neighborhoods.565.3694 
567 565.7486/Like/ I don't live out there566.4729 
569 566.5530personally I don't know what happens but567.8246 
571 568.2618when I go out there it's like you feel more safe.570.1737 
572DCB_int_01572.1153[Mm.]572.6235
573DCB_se1_ag1_m_01572.3834[Other] than573.1395
574 574.0359getting dropped off at your house or-576.2969
576 576.6451or your neighborhood wondering like,577.8216 
578 578.4376what's gonna happen if I get out the car.579.9503 
580 580.5550Like-580.7722 
582 581.0468s- stuff like that.581.7829 
583DCB_int_01582.4952And do you see that often like people are just in fear?585.0484
584DCB_se1_ag1_m_01585.6084Yeah.586.0326
586 586.8930When you in fear587.9455 
588 588.0495or when you scared you do589.0820 
590 589.5699things that you usually wouldn't do.590.9059 
592 592.2392Like,592.5659 
594 593.1315I saw people who got bullied all they life and now595.9368 
596 596.4887they carry guns597.3651 
598 597.5252just-598.0495 
600 598.7698/?/599.1285 
602 599.2340they're just being scared.600.1273 
603DCB_int_01601.0466Wow.601.3119
605 602.2071And so- okay.603.2439 
607 603.9875Wait a minute.604.3637 
609 604.5838Let me back up.605.2001 
611 606.4486So do you feel like it was a time personally like, /RD-NAME-2/ you were like, oh my God I'm gonna die,610.8986 
613 611.1145like, something's gonna happen to me right now?612.7433 
614DCB_se1_ag1_m_01613.0714Yeah.613.4208
615DCB_int_01613.8314When? Can you tell me about it?615.0447
616DCB_se1_ag1_m_01615.2800I say616.2365
618 617.5291beginning of the summertime.618.5536 
619DCB_int_01618.8734[What happened?]619.4241
620DCB_se1_ag1_m_01619.0095[This summer.]619.4937
621 620.4942Seeing people just621.4386
623 621.9348/I say/622.3388 
625 622.4871drop like flies like623.6957 
627 624.5998just dying left and right.625.9564 
629 627.2968Or627.6728 
631 627.9891I think, oh what if I get locked up for being630.1456 
633 630.2940in the wrong place at the wrong time or hanging with the wrong people.632.7380 
635 633.8354That's why I really come down here to get away from everything.636.4575 
637 637.2168/That's like/ I got people down here I can talk to.639.0301 
639 639.9419That's really what my640.7702 
641 640.9182program is around like,642.2627 
643 643.2032if you don't643.6738 
645 644.2033feel safe at home or if you have something going on at home that you really don't wanna talk about648.1127 
647 649.1374then you have someone to talk to.650.2720 
649 652.1506Yeah.652.4453 
650DCB_int_01653.4231How did you- so how did you end- how did you start coming here? How did you start coming to the Boys and Girls Club?657.9377
651DCB_se1_ag1_m_01658.1129Well,658.5756
653 659.1854I had had AAU practice down here.661.1948 
655 661.9743I used to told- I used to tell /RD-NAME-4/ I'm'a come down here, I'm'a come down here and stay.665.2090 
657 665.9119So one day he locked me out the gym667.7159 
659 668.6366and he made me call my mom and signed me up670.7455 
661 671.1219for me to come down here.672.3752 
663 672.5985And672.9707 
665 673.3109ever since that day I been coming down here.674.7956 
666DCB_int_01674.8116And [when was that?]675.5849
667DCB_se1_ag1_m_01675.0797[Non stop.]675.5917
668 676.0919Say like three years ago.677.1947
669DCB_int_01677.5806So you've been- okay, so you've been coming down here for that long.679.4693
670DCB_se1_ag1_m_01679.6614Mm-hm.679.9575
671DCB_int_01679.9335And680.5578
672 680.8019what do you feel like681.9505
674 683.2546has been-684.2831 
676 685.0875so you've had lots of experiences686.7082 
678 686.7880in those three years, what do you think has been like the most influential or like the best experience you've had?692.0133 
679DCB_se1_ag1_m_01692.7865Uh, my senior year693.6109
681 693.8790cause I had a lot694.6594 
683 695.3277like-695.6158 
685 696.3240I had a lot more opportunities697.7206 
687 697.8326like698.1246 
689 699.0570the three years has been a way700.5697 
691 700.6617different change701.5221 
693 702.3622with me.702.7744 
695 704.2431Uh, the first year I was really-705.7878 
697 706.5077in basketball like I was kind of hanging outside later than what I usually do.709.8597 
699 711.1056Uh,711.5896 
701 713.0185my second year me coming down here714.6478 
703 715.3994uh, my grades started getting better.716.7834 
704DCB_int_01717.3042Mm.717.5123
705DCB_se1_ag1_m_01718.1326My third year, like my grades got better,719.9726
707 720.1212/I went in/720.6452 
709 720.8695more opportunities721.8775 
711 722.9264like723.1465 
713 723.4625my mindset changed724.9785 
715 725.2433as- when I hit eighteen726.4033 
717 726.9201as of when I was728.2647 
719 729.0888younger. Fourteen, f-730.4454 
721 730.6175bef- between fourteen and eighteen, I'm732.5621 
723 732.6863a totally different person.733.7028 
724DCB_int_01734.1627What do you think changed it?735.2227
725DCB_se1_ag1_m_01736.0356I say736.5436
727 737.4760me getting tired of it like739.1968 
729 739.4449seeing my cousin get locked up,740.8816 
731 741.3255come home and get locked up.742.4460 
733 743.2619Or come down here,744.1157 
735 744.2307seeing /RD-NAME-4/745.1351 
737 746.1835or just coming down here period.747.3501 
739 747.4520It's just seeing like how happy the kids is when they see me.749.7811 
741 750.7173Like750.9854 
743 751.2135it just changed me.751.9788 
744DCB_int_01753.3622So I heard you went to this program last week, tell me a [little bit about] it and like756.9236
745DCB_se1_ag1_m_01755.7633[Yeah.]756.1727
746DCB_int_01757.3438how did you get the opportunity? What- how did you get into the program?760.5376
748 760.6650[Tell me] about the [program.]761.8176 
749DCB_se1_ag1_m_01760.6692[We-]760.8639
751 761.5054[uh],761.7816 
752 762.1737well my cousin /RD-NAME-3/763.4924
754 763.7185my little cousin /RD-NAME-3/764.6949 
756 765.3589she766.0203 
758 766.1433was in the- going to the program,767.4756 
760 768.5641and /RD-NAME-4/ aksed me770.0055 
762 770.1289do I wanna go to the program.771.5455 
764 772.0496Was like, yeah sure,772.9700 
766 773.2502but I didn't know if he was gonna be gone774.8022 
768 775.2228from Wednesday to Saturday I thought it was a one day thing.777.4278 
770 778.1442So when I went there778.9966 
772 780.2727and it was new for me,781.1420 
774 781.5773I had dressed in business casual I really wasn't-783.8704 
776 784.1384I'm not used to dressing up.785.2997 
777DCB_int_01786.4713[So what] happened? How'd you-787.6559
778DCB_se1_ag1_m_01786.5233[Uh,]786.8515
779DCB_int_01787.7997how'd you like788.6280
781 788.7721dress and-789.5205 
782DCB_se1_ag1_m_01789.7806Uh,790.2392
784 791.1931I d- it was /not like/792.6786 
786 792.9179when I dress like that I like,794.0944 
788 794.2542I like it now like I can go to a store like,796.2392 
790 796.6874oh I can come back and buy this.797.8559 
792 800.0325But800.2925 
794 800.4127the program is basically801.8093 
796 803.0619it's a leadership program804.1059 
798 804.7665about your dream like,805.8107 
800 805.9108what you want to do806.7712 
802 807.1754to start807.6116 
804 808.0598or808.4200 
806 808.5480not start809.0387 
808 810.2607yeah start within your community like if you got drug problem if you got813.5541 
810 814.3822a high814.9595 
812 815.2386rape815.5587 
814 815.9749rate816.2390 
816 816.7112uh, thing817.3779 
818 817.7196in your neighborhood,818.3559 
820 818.7400it's-819.0307 
822 819.2441like, it shows you820.1806 
824 820.5127what steps you can do821.5088 
826 822.2291and they show you822.7613 
828 822.9494important people like823.8458 
830 823.9539I met a lot of democrats and republicans.826.1709 
831DCB_int_01826.4348Mm.826.7629
832DCB_se1_ag1_m_01827.2031So that really changed it828.6938
834 829.2561from829.6523 
836 830.3046Congress Heights to /how I start/.831.8493 
838 832.7574They showed- they-833.6138 
840 834.2581t-834.3702 
842 834.6703it's different telling you-835.7425 
844 836.3388telling-836.6148 
846 837.0151it's different from people telling you what they been through839.4002 
847DCB_int_01839.9722[Mm.]840.3524
848DCB_se1_ag1_m_01840.0202[and see how] they is now.841.0647
849DCB_int_01841.6170Mm-hm.842.0410
850DCB_se1_ag1_m_01842.4092So it was really-843.3216
851DCB_int_01843.7215What do you think was the most touching story that you heard at the program?847.2402
852DCB_se1_ag1_m_01848.0834Uh, I'll say849.3280
854 849.7362touching story I had was851.1365 
856 851.7728/this du-/852.1850 
858 852.4091/RD-NAME-2/852.9174 
860 853.0974he was the f- he was the coolest dude I met.855.5146 
862 856.1586Because he was- he's857.2711 
864 857.4232uh,857.7673 
866 858.8315what you call it when you run your own business? Uh,861.2833 
868 861.3807architect. No not an architect.862.9813 
870 863.9296I forgot what it's called when [you ha-]865.2563 
871DCB_int_01864.9461[When you-]865.2554
872 865.3543oh, entrepreneur.866.2467
873DCB_se1_ag1_m_01866.1987Yeah he's a entrepreneur.867.2952
874 867.9110And he said he made his first869.9343
876 870.1119company- he f- made his first million and run this company872.3851 
878 873.0453in six months.874.0858 
880 875.2180Then he said like875.8983 
882 876.0904last year- last month he made- he j-878.5131 
884 878.7556he just879.2330 
886 880.1319/Ow-/880.3480 
888 880.5681/they-/880.8242 
890 881.5485/?/ fourteen million.882.9432 
892 883.4614So it was like,883.9881 
894 884.9498that's-885.2831 
896 886.1384I'm not used to hearing those numbers.887.4810 
897DCB_int_01888.0673[Mm.]888.5699
898DCB_se1_ag1_m_01888.1271[So it was like] new I was like,889.4438
899 889.9982mister you a millionaire,891.1582
901 891.9206you could be doing something important893.3213 
903 893.6173/owing/894.0775 
905 894.9179something you can be anywhere else but you decided to talk to us and that really did change me.898.6275 
906DCB_int_01899.4996Wow cause you felt like900.6961
907DCB_se1_ag1_m_01900.7879[/Right./]901.2279
908DCB_int_01900.8762[he cared about your] situation and [what you were] doing.903.8755
909DCB_se1_ag1_m_01901.5763[Yeah.]901.9684
911 902.9529[Uh-huh.]903.3571 
912DCB_int_01904.6137Do you think that,905.6577
914 906.3582um-906.8822 
916 908.7952that-909.0272 
918 909.2794that something that you can do910.7714 
920 911.1481can change kind of your neighborhood and can change how people look at you and how people915.2681 
922 915.5739receive you even though you're still young?917.5388 
923DCB_se1_ag1_m_01918.0908Yeah, I say in my neighborhood I know a lot of people920.3118
925 920.4559and920.7428 
927 921.3402I know a lot of older people922.4348 
929 922.5927cause my family /grew up/ like923.7933 
931 924.3853I can get a event started and I can have a lot of people come out.927.1690 
933 928.1868And since I'm929.0352 
935 929.1152from929.4273 
937 929.5674like, the young age I can get931.2802 
939 931.3961a lot of931.8188 
941 932.2725my people I hang with933.2490 
943 933.6009to come out934.1982 
945 934.9455and bring they friends.936.0820 
947 937.4707It just-938.1109 
949 939.1830I'll say Congress Heights growing up there is uh,941.0839 
951 941.8283it's a good thing942.5776 
953 942.8324that I can s-943.4378 
955 943.5648do a program or do something that945.1794 
957 945.5657a lot of people946.0699 
959 946.2060do946.4581 
961 947.2702but it's a bad thing because948.5108 
963 948.6068I have to watch my back constantly.950.4108 
965 951.2959Like that's the951.8282 
967 952.1442only952.4349 
969 952.6884bad thing about it.953.4288 
970DCB_int_01953.9690So how d- how-954.6970
972 954.8773how early did you feel like you had to kind of956.9823 
974 957.0899watch your back like how old were you when you realized like, dang I gotta like check and make sure ain't nobody gonna roll up on me?963.2208 
975DCB_se1_ag1_m_01963.1767Uh,963.4941
976 963.6727twelve.964.2005
977DCB_int_01964.9653What happened when you were twelve?966.2459
978DCB_se1_ag1_m_01966.2656Uh, my first time getting jumped for being from that neighborhood.968.8988
980 969.9113Me and my best friend.970.9593 
982 972.8819Yeah,973.2020 
984 973.5622walking from Congress Heights station and going home.975.7672 
985DCB_int_01976.5996[The Metro station?]977.4182
986DCB_se1_ag1_m_01976.6018[And]976.8860
988 977.2782[yeah.]977.6115 
989 977.7301And then getting jumped978.4714
991 978.8582for being from that hood-979.8791 
993 979.9951that neighborhood.980.5866 
994DCB_int_01982.7081And983.1108
996 983.5605like some guys just came and like just was [like-]985.9819 
997DCB_se1_ag1_m_01985.2804[/Just-/ they was] like, uh,986.7321
998 987.4380where you guys- where y'all from?988.7647
1000 989.1948That's what a lot of989.8471 
1002 990.0472DC people say.990.8396 
1004 991.3834We was like, we from Congress Heights, and they was like,993.0842 
1006 993.2883oh we beefing with them,994.1727 
1008 994.4368and they jumped us.995.2292 
1009DCB_int_01996.1855Like they robbed you, [or did they] beat you up?998.5026
1010DCB_se1_ag1_m_01997.4180[Yeah.]997.9062
1011 998.5225Yeah beat us up.999.3108
1013 999.4869Rob-999.8551 
1015 1000.0512robbed us.1000.6022 
1017 1001.1274Took our cell phones,1002.3581 
1019 1002.8082we was twelve and they had to been like,1004.2722 
1021 1004.3848at least like sixteen.1005.4813 
1022DCB_int_011006.5816And it was the two of you guys and how many of them?1008.4016
1023DCB_se1_ag1_m_011008.5263I would say about like seven.1009.7148
1025 1011.1513Yeah.1011.5835 
1027 1012.5720So that's when we had like-1013.9333 
1029 1015.4010that's when we started hanging out1017.0218 
1031 1017.2696with older people like,1018.3629 
1033 1018.7863we would be hanging with a certain crowd1020.1970 
1035 1020.4191it won't happen again.1021.3431 
1037 1021.7315Made me feel safe.1022.7915 
1039 1023.6204So yeah.1024.2071 
1040DCB_int_011025.2129So, okay.1025.9395
1042 1026.3773So now-1026.9936 
1044 1027.3897where'd you go to middle sc-1028.4221 
1046 1028.5341you went- where'd you go for mi- elementary, middle, and then1031.0141 
1047DCB_se1_ag1_m_011031.0670[Uh],1031.4592
1048DCB_int_011031.0950[we'll talk] about high school.1032.0555
1049DCB_se1_ag1_m_011032.1395I went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/1033.1342
1050DCB_int_011033.9444You went to-1034.5177
1051DCB_se1_ag1_m_011034.7926/RD-SCHOOL-4/ Elementary School.1036.3613
1052DCB_int_011036.4172Okay.1036.7894
1054 1037.2736Where is that?1037.7018 
1055DCB_se1_ag1_m_011038.0020Uh, I'll say you know where the new1040.1750
1057 1040.7988Eagle Academy at1041.5722 
1059 1041.9514on Wheeler Road? Is that Wheeler Road? Yeah, Wheeler Road.1044.2482 
1060DCB_int_011044.9805That sounds familiar.1046.0218
1062 1046.3931I [think so.]1047.0491 
1063DCB_se1_ag1_m_011046.5132[Yeah.]1046.8934
1064 1047.8337Well,1048.2058
1066 1048.4059it was old McGoney.1049.5585 
1068 1050.4469Well, /RD-SCHOOL-4/ now is a Somerset.1052.3636 
1070 1052.4355It's a middle school now.1053.3838 
1072 1054.8845Building that was there was a elementary school and I went there, /I was sent/ to uh,1058.0700 
1074 1058.3779kindergarten1058.9101 
1076 1059.2383sixth.1059.7116 
1077DCB_int_011059.8344Mm-hm.1060.3504
1078DCB_se1_ag1_m_011060.9549/And I-/ middle school I went to Jefferson.1062.5116
1079DCB_int_011063.0556Mm-hm.1063.5476
1080DCB_se1_ag1_m_011064.1921Which is over there in the Southwest.1065.7048
1082 1066.6211Yeah I got jumped from-1067.6985 
1084 1068.3018yeah.1068.6939 
1086 1069.7943Uh, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ my high school year.1072.1085 
1088 1072.2753Nine through twelve.1072.9596 
1089DCB_int_011073.1957So tell me about /RD-SCHOOL-2/.1074.2119
1091 1074.5801How was-1075.0721 
1093 1075.5285like,1076.0728 
1095 1076.2009are there a lot of-1077.3782 
1097 1077.6975because1078.0375 
1099 1078.1056it's not just people from Southeast South, it's [a lot of] people from everywhere.1081.4271 
1100DCB_se1_ag1_m_011079.9982[Yeah.]1080.4075
1102 1081.4109Well /RD-SCHOOL-2/ I was like, I knew people going there so I was okay and I'm a f-1085.7088 
1103 1085.8966I'm a1086.2046
1105 1086.5930people's person so1087.5770 
1107 1088.3617it didn't matter which neighborhood I was in like,1090.2985 
1109 1090.5064they knew me like,1091.4148 
1111 1091.9470they wouldn't say, oh /RD-NAME-2/ not with them.1093.1036 
1113 1094.2800They be like,1094.7082 
1115 1095.8005even though he from that neighborhood he- we-1097.7094 
1117 1097.8574they know I'm not gonna do nothing because I want better for myself.1100.1707 
1118DCB_int_011100.5103Mm.1100.9263
1119DCB_se1_ag1_m_011101.0746Like, this year I met a freshman1102.6630
1121 1103.6635that-1103.9168 
1123 1104.6880from a neighborhood that1105.5644 
1125 1105.7004my1106.0406 
1127 1106.2527neighborhood don't like.1106.9729 
1129 1107.7292But they looked at me was like, oh he not1109.2980 
1131 1109.6140do that.1110.0340 
1133 1110.2062He's not gonna be that1110.9169 
1135 1111.4228person.1111.8350 
1137 1113.3354But1113.5635 
1139 1113.6876always had to show-1114.6356 
1141 1115.2643I didn't have to show them but1116.1767 
1143 1116.3325they knew1116.8539 
1145 1117.4450that1117.6530 
1147 1118.1814if you come at me a certain way I'm gonna protect myself.1120.1134 
1148DCB_int_011120.6782Right.1121.0156
1150 1121.9949Did you- what- did you see a lot of gangs and-1123.8282 
1152 1123.9196and stuff at the school?1124.7800 
1153DCB_se1_ag1_m_011125.2121Yeah, but-1125.5522
1155 1125.8604in sc- in school?1126.7623 
1157 1127.8573Uh,1128.2733 
1159 1129.7738it really was like a neighborhood sit somewhere else /with/ neighborhood like-1132.6071 
1160DCB_int_011133.0231So it would be segregated by neighborhoods?1134.8258
1161DCB_se1_ag1_m_011134.8800Yeah but some people from1136.0600
1163 1136.1923one neighborhood-1136.8083 
1165 1137.3448like I be from a neighborhood1138.5774 
1167 1138.7574in-1139.0520 
1169 1139.4417and1139.8459 
1171 1139.9459I'm friends with you,1140.6622 
1172DCB_int_011140.9262Mm-hm.1141.2184
1173DCB_se1_ag1_m_011141.2584so like1141.6906
1175 1141.8066I be like,1142.2400 
1177 1142.5989that's not gonna happen in school, you know like,1144.0595 
1179 1144.1316if it happen outside of school it's different.1145.6889 
1181 1146.1561But in school like we'll be cool, we even play basketball.1148.5534 
1183 1149.1815I play basketball with people1150.4181 
1185 1151.9063from neighborhoods that beef years ago1153.9834 
1187 1154.9356that's still happening,1155.8680 
1189 1155.9481I'll play basketball but1157.1686 
1191 1158.7052on the court it was not like that, it was like1160.8220 
1193 1161.6744um,1161.9544 
1195 1162.8188I'm playing basketball it wasn't like, oh,1164.5148 
1197 1164.8758if he touch me the wrong way1166.1011 
1199 1166.2043I'm'a- we gonna fight.1166.9366 
1201 1167.5526It wasn't like that.1168.1929 
1202DCB_int_011168.7852What was your favorite subject in school?1170.2652
1203DCB_se1_ag1_m_011171.0141Uh, my favorite subject1172.1946
1205 1172.2947is history.1173.3807 
1206DCB_int_011173.5431Hi- why?1174.1874
1207DCB_se1_ag1_m_011174.7874I don't know it like-1175.7278
1209 1176.2001I like hearing the history about1177.7614 
1211 1177.8645how far DC came and just how the world change.1180.4658 
1212DCB_int_011180.6738So what do you think- okay that's interesting that you talk about how1183.2270
1214 1183.4869like DC-1184.3153 
1216 1184.7635um,1185.2701 
1218 1185.5477what did you learn about like DC culture?1187.3924 
1219DCB_se1_ag1_m_011188.2488Uh,1188.6581
1220DCB_int_011189.0852That you thought was interesting.1190.0656
1221DCB_se1_ag1_m_011190.6819well,1191.3459
1223 1192.5504it's just like how DC changed over time.1194.7034 
1225 1196.0597From1196.6237 
1227 1197.3203being dirt roads to this1198.8250 
1229 1200.2775gravel now and it just how1202.4465 
1231 1202.6065it changed from1203.3148 
1233 1203.8148riding horses and carriages to1205.8957 
1235 1206.2719cars like,1207.1123 
1237 1207.8886and how the houses was.1209.1046 
1239 1209.6290How the first landlines was connected.1211.8628 
1241 1212.9224It just-1213.4467 
1243 1214.0069it's different cause you1214.8670 
1245 1216.2157like-1216.5118 
1247 1217.0560like if you tell me a story1217.9645 
1249 1218.1125I can imagine it like I can see it.1219.9334 
1250DCB_int_011219.9412Mm.1220.3266
1251DCB_se1_ag1_m_011220.7016But now if I look out there now like,1222.1543
1253 1222.6262it's different.1223.1945 
1255 1224.2990So that's why I like reading about1225.5756 
1257 1226.4517history.1226.8999 
1258DCB_int_011228.1323Do you feel1229.0728
1260 1229.3809a certain pride about DC like,1231.3618 
1262 1231.5058this is my city?1232.6103 
1263DCB_se1_ag1_m_011234.5870Uh,1235.1590
1265 1236.6717I would say1237.4041 
1267 1238.0964no.1238.6486 
1268DCB_int_011239.3768Why not?1239.7329
1269DCB_se1_ag1_m_011240.2771Cause like,1240.9134
1271 1241.1415if you come to DC1242.2722 
1273 1243.0903like from a different place you're like, oh DC is like where the Governor's at and all that,1246.7120 
1275 1246.8958President.1247.3104 
1277 1248.1762Then you actually see DC,1249.7570 
1279 1250.7013like,1250.9294 
1281 1251.2935go around the neighborhoods, I'm not just- not talking about1253.3582 
1283 1254.7549on the DC, Maryland1255.9949 
1285 1256.2234area I'm talking about1256.7797 
1287 1257.0918in DC.1257.9160 
1288DCB_int_011258.2002Mm-hm.1258.5682
1289DCB_se1_ag1_m_011258.9725If you go around the neighborhoods you'll be like, oh no I don't wanna be in DC.1261.6378
1290DCB_int_011262.2139Mm-hm.1262.6192
1291DCB_se1_ag1_m_011263.5342Like,1263.8624
1293 1265.5311I know people1266.2085 
1295 1266.4434who came from New York1267.7961 
1297 1268.4521and1269.0014 
1299 1269.6887Wisconsin who came down here.1271.0013 
1301 1271.6656Friends that I know play basketball with.1273.3462 
1303 1274.9187They were like, I ain't- we ain't coming back to DC.1276.7493 
1304DCB_int_011278.0600[Mm.]1278.7280
1305DCB_se1_ag1_m_011278.2361[They was like], never coming back here again.1279.9201
1306 1281.6775I say we still- my like,1282.9621
1308 1283.6341my friend1284.2784 
1310 1284.7066stayed over my house for a weekend and was like, I can't do it.1286.9517 
1312 1287.7799Like, [I can't] come back, cause he-1289.1004 
1313DCB_int_011287.8880Why?1288.2533
1314DCB_se1_ag1_m_011289.8207he heard so much shooting.1291.3131
1316 1292.5577Like he heard-1293.1190 
1318 1293.3021he heard it all.1294.0144 
1320 1295.2748He heard people,1296.0672 
1322 1297.6517uh,1298.1436 
1324 1298.7281fighting everyday.1300.0568 
1326 1300.9530Saw people- he saw people get stabbed,1302.7304 
1328 1303.6860all in a matter of1304.5927 
1330 1305.1107three days.1305.6666 
1332 1306.2791He h- he saw a lot what I face1308.2040 
1334 1308.9602in three days.1309.6162 
1336 1310.9250So1311.3290 
1337DCB_int_011311.5773[And that's what you] deal with everyday.1312.8657
1338DCB_se1_ag1_m_011311.6572[yeah.]1312.0613
1339 1313.2938Yes.1313.7300
1340DCB_int_011315.2145So how do you stay positive? How do you stay strong in that because that seems really1319.2523
1342 1320.1727hard.1320.8890 
1344 1321.0248Like, it's hard to see like your friends getting killed or1323.7058 
1346 1323.8218drugs or [whatever you] see1325.4066 
1347DCB_se1_ag1_m_011324.4541[Yeah.]1325.0064
1348DCB_int_011325.5226every day.1326.0666
1349DCB_se1_ag1_m_011327.0352I think of my little brothers like,1328.3245
1351 1329.7204the faster I reach my goals the faster they can get out.1332.2935 
1353 1333.3896[That's what] keep me positive and /RD-NAME-4/1335.5866 
1354DCB_int_011333.3936[Mm.]1333.6817
1355DCB_se1_ag1_m_011336.0588won't let me.1336.8041
1357 1337.1592Like,1337.4393 
1359 1337.8875even if I w-1338.3757 
1361 1338.8279thought about doing something stupid1339.9645 
1363 1340.8327he'd put his foot in my throat real quick.1342.4052 
1365 1342.8734Like-1343.1814 
1366DCB_int_011345.0222Why do you respect him so much?1346.5209
1367DCB_se1_ag1_m_011346.8468Because-1347.5081
1369 1349.6561I'll say I respect him a lot because it just1351.9492 
1371 1352.7853whatever you go through he won't-1354.1493 
1373 1355.5863he won't down talk you.1356.6468 
1374DCB_int_011357.1070Mm-hm.1357.5952
1375DCB_se1_ag1_m_011358.2996Like,1358.6197
1377 1360.0720say if1361.1586 
1379 1362.0049I just1362.5289 
1381 1362.6732came from j- fighting.1363.9975 
1383 1364.7018Come down here1365.3658 
1385 1365.6583if I tell him,1366.2705 
1387 1367.5511he would be like- he will talk you, he would- he won't1369.7080 
1389 1370.1602yell at you but he'll talk to you about it like he1372.1971 
1391 1373.1134will1373.5188 
1393 1374.4018show you that it's not1375.1591 
1395 1375.8624f- good to fight but if it comes down to it1378.0513 
1397 1378.4595if you had to protect yourself it's different but now,1380.6797 
1399 1381.6204like I got in a altercation a couple days ago,1383.8964 
1401 1385.3341and he was like, that's not-1386.3906 
1403 1386.7146cause1387.0173 
1405 1387.1708people don't fight with their hands no more.1388.4322 
1407 1389.6877Like,1389.9038 
1409 1390.0439people1390.5212 
1411 1390.7000d- either you gonna get shot or you gonna get stabbed.1392.5534 
1413 1394.3936Like1394.6778 
1415 1395.2420that's why I respect him and it's that1396.6467 
1417 1397.5668don't matter1398.1668 
1419 1399.6118what you been through1400.3480 
1421 1400.5280you can feel at home.1401.7766 
1423 1402.4006And1402.8086 
1425 1404.1334I would say1404.6974 
1427 1405.7062you might not /think of him/ like, oh,1407.2026 
1429 1408.0310I can't talk to /RD-NAME-4/ cause he gonna go tell somebody about it.1410.5681 
1431 1411.0082But it's not that.1411.7605 
1433 1412.2328What you tell him is confidential.1413.5692 
1435 1414.5135Like that's why I respect him because it's a lot of people1416.5985 
1437 1417.3946who need1417.9949 
1439 1418.1467people like that1418.8070 
1441 1418.9510in- in a world and it's1420.1750 
1443 1421.8324not a lot of people you can do that to-1423.3448 
1445 1424.1412you can't talk to.1424.8465 
1447 1426.1141Like I can talk to my little cousin too.1427.6105 
1449 1428.7030Like at first I didn't even know that was my cousin when I first came down here.1431.0041 
1451 1432.6964But now I can talk to her1433.8012 
1453 1434.4012even though she my little cousin1435.5452 
1455 1436.4582she been through more I'll say educational experience than I have been.1439.8916 
1457 1440.6237So it's- I can talk to her about1442.1444 
1459 1443.4687the streets and what not to do and she can talk to me about school and what to do.1447.3022 
1460DCB_int_011447.8905[Right.]1448.2625
1461DCB_se1_ag1_m_011448.1106[So] yeah.1448.7066
1462DCB_int_011449.0190So y'all kind of share [informa- or exchange] information.1451.7203
1463DCB_se1_ag1_m_011450.3636[Yeah.]1450.8759
1464DCB_int_011452.0483What do you feel like is a piece of advice you gave her like kind of1454.7216
1466 1455.3574um,1456.0747 
1468 1456.8261to protect yourself like,1458.1387 
1470 1458.6269cause it's- it's real.1459.6514 
1471DCB_se1_ag1_m_011459.7952Yeah.1460.2298
1473 1460.3234Sh-1460.6436 
1475 1460.7396I- she had a incident where she actually got jumped coming down here.1463.6356 
1477 1465.1975And1465.6297 
1479 1465.7854I know how our family is like,1467.5502 
1481 1468.7468her sister came down here ready to fight, her mom did, it's just not-1471.7161 
1483 1473.5247And we had to- /RD-NAME-4/1475.0172 
1485 1475.1093and myself had to calm them down and tell 'em,1477.2143 
1487 1478.0143after they calmed me down first,1479.5711 
1489 1479.6791well,1480.0511 
1491 1480.6634I told 'em1481.2354 
1493 1481.4678like,1481.6919 
1495 1481.8840it's not-1482.2720 
1497 1482.6362It's gonna be another problem.1483.6482 
1499 1484.5491Cause they know how she look1485.4974 
1501 1485.6255and if y'all go around there1486.7940 
1503 1486.9060with her1487.4140 
1505 1487.8902it's gonna be a different thing.1488.9849 
1507 1490.6394But1490.8835 
1509 1490.9875now I just tell her protect herself at all times, don't-1493.4767 
1511 1494.5849like,1494.8690 
1513 1495.7454if you see a group of people coming or you see1498.6066 
1515 1499.1866something that does-1500.1431 
1517 1500.5072about to be playing1501.4232 
1519 1502.4281like just1503.1108 
1521 1503.8844find the quickest way1504.7528 
1523 1505.3290to get out the situation.1506.3215 
1524DCB_int_011508.7945How did you feel when you graduated from high school?1511.1516
1525DCB_se1_ag1_m_011512.1358It's a big /relieval/ it was like,1514.0645
1527 1514.6608a lot of weight came off of my shoulders.1516.5097 
1529 1517.5657But now in- being a,1518.6302 
1531 1518.7223um,1519.0396 
1533 1519.2825I'll say a young man who wanted1520.7759 
1535 1521.2394to be successful,1522.0278 
1537 1522.4599it's a whole different1523.7084 
1539 1524.2607ball game cause I don't have-1525.3052 
1541 1526.1053first of all I gotta finds a way1527.3733 
1543 1527.5499to provide for myself.1528.6662 
1544DCB_int_011529.1144Mm-hm.1529.5226
1545DCB_se1_ag1_m_011529.8707And yeah.1530.7111
1547 1531.2114It just-1531.6876 
1549 1532.3956it was different.1532.9439 
1550DCB_int_011533.3161Do you work now?1533.9884
1551DCB_se1_ag1_m_011534.6367No but I'm looking for jobs now,1536.4007
1553 1536.7655as of right now.1537.2617 
1555 1537.6099I'm doing SYEP1538.8145 
1556DCB_int_011539.1343[Mm-hm.]1539.4625
1557DCB_se1_ag1_m_011539.2184[right now], Summer Youth1540.2188
1558 1540.3309Employment1540.8431
1560 1541.4232right now, but I'm also looking for jobs.1543.1739 
1561DCB_int_011543.9401What do you wanna-1544.4855
1563 1544.6765kind of what do you wanna work in now? Like if you can get into-1547.7098 
1565 1547.8018you wanna try to get into IT now or you [wanna try] something else [before you do that?]1551.4512 
1566DCB_se1_ag1_m_011549.7505[Uh],1550.0587
1568 1550.7870[I'm'a wait- I'm'a] wait til March like,1552.4718 
1569 1553.4960I'm'a work until March and then do IT.1555.6173
1570DCB_int_011556.5171So you just wanna kind of get any kind of job just to kind [of bring some money] in. [Are you still] staying at home?1560.6670
1571DCB_se1_ag1_m_011558.5060[Yeah just-]1559.2504
1573 1559.6506[Uh-huh.]1560.0266 
1574 1561.0309Yeah.1561.3671
1575DCB_int_011561.8153That's good.1562.3555
1577 1562.9638That's you got1563.5321 
1579 1563.6640you know [that support] system.1564.9246 
1580DCB_se1_ag1_m_011563.9815[Mm-hm.]1564.3483
1581DCB_int_011565.2366How did your mom feel when she saw you graduate?1567.3086
1582DCB_se1_ag1_m_011568.0256She was happy.1568.6269
1584 1569.4663She- I'm the first one to come out the household to graduate.1571.8434 
1585DCB_int_011572.1074Mm-hm.1572.5476
1587 1572.8677And what about your little brothers?1574.2424 
1588DCB_se1_ag1_m_011574.8922<laugh> They made me cry.1576.6410
1590 1577.5134Like1577.7496 
1592 1577.9256they-1578.3979 
1594 1579.2543like, I'm proud of you,1580.1423 
1596 1580.3343all that.1580.7237 
1597DCB_int_011582.3313Do you remember-1583.2957
1599 1583.6039so thinking back cause it's about what, f-1585.5612 
1601 1585.7127six year gap between you and your youngest brother-1587.8017 
1603 1588.3256or your younger brother,1589.3741 
1605 1590.2465what did you do as a child? Do you remember d- like, did you jump rope, hopscotch? Well I guess that's more girl [stuff.]1595.3086 
1606DCB_se1_ag1_m_011594.9563[Yeah.]1595.4016
1607DCB_int_011595.4645Did [you like]1596.1432
1608DCB_se1_ag1_m_011595.6526[Uh-]1596.1446
1609DCB_int_011596.4970do jacks?1597.9577
1610DCB_se1_ag1_m_011598.0057Basketball.1598.6577
1612 1598.8019That's-1599.1901 
1613DCB_int_011599.3180[Basketball.]1599.8834
1614DCB_se1_ag1_m_011599.3302[that's what] we all have in common all three of us.1601.3229
1615 1601.7429Or sports in general.1602.7335
1617 1603.9519[Like-]1604.3761 
1618DCB_int_011604.0599[And you just] reffed the game.1605.3045
1619DCB_se1_ag1_m_011605.6325Yeah. <laugh>1606.3849
1621 1606.8251And [/there's reffing/]1607.6744 
1622DCB_int_011606.9850[And how'd you get into] that? Is that just something you do for the little kid- like [how did you get] into1611.2168
1623DCB_se1_ag1_m_011610.0823[Mm.]1610.5905
1624 1611.6347[Well],1612.0414
1625DCB_int_011611.7588[being a] ref?1612.4654
1626DCB_se1_ag1_m_011613.1114basically whatever like1614.4640
1628 1615.2243that's gonna help the kids I'll do it.1616.6369 
1629DCB_int_011617.2649Mm-hm.1617.6691
1630DCB_se1_ag1_m_011618.4215Like if you tell me I'll1619.9182
1632 1620.5863take the kids outside it can be ninety degrees I'm'a complain but I will still do it.1623.9319 
1634 1624.6681Like it's just like whatever benefits the kids that's what I'm'a do.1627.0214 
1636 1627.4571And basketball1628.2931 
1638 1629.3658it's a lot of people way out of1631.0798 
1640 1631.2946problems at home or sports period.1632.9370 
1641DCB_int_011633.6994Mm-hm.1634.0807
1643 1635.6563Do you think-1636.3484 
1645 1636.6765do you think you see some of these little kids and you think about yourself when you like, oh I remember1641.1746 
1647 1641.3464when I was- I wish I had Boys and Girls Club?1643.4874 
1648DCB_se1_ag1_m_011643.4873Yeah when I was younger I wasn't here like, I ain't even know this existed.1646.5445
1649 1647.5690But1647.8291
1651 1648.2531now I'm saying like,1649.3117 
1653 1650.0939a lot of people-1650.7542 
1655 1650.8863a lot of kids here1651.6956 
1657 1652.9309the way how they behave here and stuff it's like1654.5317 
1659 1656.2482they need1656.8082 
1661 1657.4262guidance now1658.5428 
1663 1658.7428because when they get older,1659.6473 
1665 1660.2796your attitude's gonna get worse.1661.5209 
1667 1662.8108The streets gonna1663.7908 
1669 1663.8953grab you cause your attitude's worse.1665.6406 
1671 1666.9686Like1667.2407 
1673 1668.6532yeah, that's gonna be your first option.1669.9777 
1675 1670.9702Cause if you get into it with your mother she put you out.1673.0547 
1677 1673.8711Only way you-1674.4874 
1679 1674.8275you have is the streets.1676.0081 
1680DCB_int_011676.3320Mm.1676.6322
1681DCB_se1_ag1_m_011676.9604So,1677.2925
1683 1677.4966a lot of-1677.8807 
1685 1678.0768I'll say a lot of kids here need to-1679.4368 
1687 1679.8976/not a-/ a lot of the teens here1681.1782 
1689 1681.4180just need to get their life1682.6825 
1691 1683.2507together.1683.7921 
1693 1684.1832Find out what they wanna do1685.2317 
1695 1685.4678and /unintelligible/ at a young age1687.0045 
1696DCB_int_011688.0847So you said your dad was locked up for what, seven years?1691.0571
1697DCB_se1_ag1_m_011691.2619[Mm-hm.]1691.6261
1698DCB_int_011691.4220So what kind of relationship do you have with your dad?1693.5390
1699DCB_se1_ag1_m_011693.5510Right now1694.1752
1701 1694.4512I live with my dad1695.2036 
1703 1695.5477so it's like1696.0600 
1705 1696.3841we have a bond cause I can understand why1698.8240 
1707 1699.3772he was locked up,1700.1536 
1709 1700.3137but I still don't1701.4822 
1711 1702.4464defeat the purpose that1703.3708 
1713 1703.5749he was gone in my life seven years.1705.1776 
1714DCB_int_011705.6076Mm.1705.8357
1715DCB_se1_ag1_m_011706.6561It's1706.9134
1717 1707.0242like, you wanted to provide for us but you did it the wrong way.1709.4413 
1718DCB_int_011710.3655Was it drugs?1711.2099
1719DCB_se1_ag1_m_011711.2139Yeah.1711.4780
1720DCB_int_011714.0948Do you see that often in like-1715.6195
1722 1716.3238do you see that as a kind of a l-1717.5841 
1724 1717.6682a lot in your neighborhood or [even just]1719.4370 
1725DCB_se1_ag1_m_011719.0328[Uh-huh.]1719.3930
1726DCB_int_011719.5290around DC do you see [drugs] as like a big-1721.8181
1727DCB_se1_ag1_m_011720.6375[Yeah.]1721.0175
1728 1722.3140A big thing.1723.1580
1730 1724.3390It's a big thing because1725.5163 
1732 1726.2876a lot of people1727.1769 
1734 1727.9524who hang around with-1728.7511 
1736 1730.1734way like a story my father told it was like one day-1732.4902 
1738 1732.9984how he got into it he was like one day his best friend1735.4478 
1740 1736.4636had a thousand dollars,1737.8843 
1742 1738.0524he was like,1738.5230 
1744 1740.0773you only1740.6786 
1746 1741.7018fourteen, whatchu doing with a thousand dollars?1743.3231 
1748 1743.9425/He was/ like,1744.4190 
1750 1744.9870I was selling weed and selling1746.3777 
1752 1747.0760crack and selling like1748.0920 
1754 1748.3843different drugs and all that.1749.7770 
1756 1750.6253My father's like,1751.2776 
1758 1751.4137oh,1751.7459 
1760 1752.7718I might have a child1753.6528 
1762 1753.7448so I /had to/ hurry up and get money.1755.3766 
1763DCB_int_011755.9953[Mm-hm.]1756.4246
1764DCB_se1_ag1_m_011756.1113[And that's when] he1756.5767
1765 1756.7036fell too.1757.2278
1766DCB_int_011758.6845Yeah.1759.1287
1768 1759.8848And how long did he do that?1761.0934 
1769DCB_se1_ag1_m_011762.8499Mm-mm.1763.4952
1771 1764.1585Til I was1765.4144 
1773 1765.7873what,1766.0792 
1775 1766.8437/think/ he got locked up when-1767.6001 
1777 1767.7402when I was eight.1768.3121 
1778DCB_int_011770.1450Hm.1770.4651
1779DCB_se1_ag1_m_011770.4491Yeah.1770.8838
1780DCB_int_011772.0376And what-1772.4058
1782 1772.7659what message-1773.5903 
1784 1773.7944if you could leave one message1775.3111 
1786 1775.7991to your little brothers or to some of the kids here1778.6804 
1788 1779.1923or even people your age, what would you say to them? Like what would that message be?1783.0661 
1789DCB_se1_ag1_m_011783.9863Chase your dreams early.1785.2943
1791 1786.3554Like don't let nobody hold you back.1787.9718 
1793 1788.1519And don't let nobody1789.1839 
1795 1789.4485get1789.6446 
1797 1789.8407in your skin1790.5170 
1799 1790.9612about what you wanna do.1792.0133 
1801 1792.3134If you wanna go to a specific college as1794.4664 
1803 1794.5705of1794.8478 
1805 1795.6670/a age range/1796.5112 
1807 1796.6873just go.1797.2796 
1809 1797.8399No matter /as if/ close or far.1799.3766 
1811 1800.2447I would tell little kids1801.4453 
1813 1802.4657like, listen to your parents cause at the end of the day those the only person-1805.1384 
1815 1805.3548only people that's gonna care about you.1806.7792 
1817 1807.2354Listen to your family.1808.2007 
1819 1809.5204And just1810.1738 
1821 1810.3048chase your dreams like chase what you wanna do1812.4141 
1823 1813.2778because nothing is handed to you in this world, you gotta take it.1816.0591 
1824DCB_int_011816.5750Mm.1816.9592
1826 1817.8316So let's talk a little bit about your family, I know you talked about your1820.2927 
1828 1820.5045brothers and your mom and your1821.6685 
1830 1821.7691dad,1822.1573 
1832 1822.3334<clears throat> do you have other family here?1823.8001 
1834 1824.6425Like,1825.0145 
1836 1825.2785[aunts], [uncles?]1826.5671 
1837DCB_se1_ag1_m_011825.5706[An-]1825.7387
1839 1826.3430[Yeah]1826.7775 
1840 1827.0190aunts,1827.4899
1842 1828.1238uncles,1828.8531 
1844 1829.4841yeah.1829.7775 
1845DCB_int_011829.9202C- lot of cousins? Do [y'all get] together regularly like do y'all watch the basketball games together [or do y'all do] like Sunday [dinner?]1835.5225
1846DCB_se1_ag1_m_011830.9327[Yeah.]1831.1808
1848 1834.0341[Uh],1834.5143 
1850 1835.2104[well]1835.5584 
1851 1835.8987my two uncles on my mom's side,1837.5595
1853 1838.6957mm one of my uncles live in Pennsylvania and one of my uncles live in Delaware so I barely see them.1842.7868 
1854DCB_int_011842.8814Mm-hm.1843.1975
1855DCB_se1_ag1_m_011843.4776Well one of my aunts she live in my neighborhood, well my mom's neighborhood.1846.7912
1857 1848.0955And1848.3355 
1859 1848.4675/it was/ like,1848.8599 
1861 1849.3041every once and a while.1850.1004 
1863 1851.1607I see her like every weekend.1852.3460 
1865 1852.5013Or every other weekend,1853.4253 
1867 1853.6215everybody get together at my grandma house1855.2423 
1869 1856.0105and just1856.4691 
1871 1856.6108talk.1856.9029 
1873 1857.2310Find out1857.7550 
1875 1857.9594what's the problem, stuff like that.1859.2447 
1877 1859.7762But we do have social media and stuff I can keep contact in.1862.4932 
1879 1863.3935[Yeah.]1863.8217 
1880DCB_int_011863.5215[What's your] favorite social media site?1864.8421
1881DCB_se1_ag1_m_011865.2904Uh, Instagram.1866.3065
1882DCB_int_011866.7708Why?1867.0869
1883DCB_se1_ag1_m_011867.6072Cause1868.0554
1885 1868.3355like1868.5968 
1887 1869.0478most of my family put up pictures of my little cousins and all that so I can see 'em.1872.2890 
1889 1872.8613Even though I ain't meet 'em yet, I can see 'em.1874.5386 
1890DCB_int_011874.9180Mm-hm.1875.2753
1891DCB_se1_ag1_m_011875.3781But yeah.1875.9263
1892DCB_int_011876.8667What do you think1877.7231
1894 1878.3634um-1879.0088 
1896 1880.2040so you have- okay so y'all get together, y'all just talk,1882.8172 
1898 1882.9933where does your grandma live?1883.8577 
1899DCB_se1_ag1_m_011884.6818Uh, literally right across the street from my mom.1886.6747
1900DCB_int_011886.9148Oh okay, in the same [neighborhood.]1888.7197
1901DCB_se1_ag1_m_011888.4032[Yeah.]1888.7874
1902DCB_int_011888.7954Okay.1889.1581
1904 1889.6758Um,1890.2225 
1906 1890.5602so now you live with your dad,1891.9536 
1907DCB_se1_ag1_m_011892.0567Mm-hm.1892.3207
1908DCB_int_011892.3648in-1892.7035
1910 1892.8250in Congress Heights, where does your mom l-1894.2297 
1911DCB_se1_ag1_m_011893.9775[Oh] no, my dad1894.7899
1912 1894.9977lives1895.2964
1914 1895.4259uh, in-1895.9942 
1916 1896.2903in Northeast.1896.8626 
1917DCB_int_011897.0427Oh your dad lives in what neighborhood?1898.4040
1918DCB_se1_ag1_m_011898.6434/RD-ADDRESS-3/.1899.2237
1919DCB_int_011899.7317So-1900.0758
1921 1900.4800Okay wait a minute.1901.2813 
1923 1901.7046So is that-1902.2646 
1925 1902.8771That's also different [right? If] you-1904.7740 
1926DCB_se1_ag1_m_011903.9176[Yeah.]1904.3442
1927DCB_int_011905.3380h- s-1905.6300
1928DCB_se1_ag1_m_011905.8662[It's uh-]1906.2184
1929DCB_int_011905.9342[So are] you there all the time or you with your mom- how- you split time?1908.9073
1930DCB_se1_ag1_m_011908.8993I'm1909.3167
1931 1909.5156mostly here1910.5201
1933 1910.6522at the [/RD-WORK-4/]1911.7055 
1934DCB_int_011910.8429[Mm-hm.]1911.1463
1935DCB_se1_ag1_m_011912.3525then I'll probably go home1913.7372
1937 1914.7816for a little while,1915.4098 
1939 1915.6419or I'll probably go see my little brother stay at my mom house.1917.6588 
1941 1918.0550So I'm not-1918.6110 
1943 1919.1152it's like a1919.5514 
1945 1919.6875even thing,1920.2958 
1947 1920.4318I'm not with really more one place more than the other.1922.4328 
1948DCB_int_011922.7769So how do you-1923.3716
1950 1923.5730okay,1923.8892 
1952 1924.0933do you-1924.4853 
1954 1925.2538is it different when you go to your dad's neighb- [like],1927.4534 
1955DCB_se1_ag1_m_011927.1667[Yeah] [<laugh> different.]1928.5270
1956DCB_int_011927.8667[How is that?] Like, [cause you not] from that area.1930.2678
1957DCB_se1_ag1_m_011928.9272[It's like-]1929.3726
1959 1930.2438It's more1930.7265 
1960 1930.8001qu-1930.9842
1962 1931.0762it's quiet because I-1931.9486 
1964 1932.1723I went around there when I was little so1933.8491 
1966 1934.3093like,1934.5214 
1968 1934.6815now I'm not little but1935.6739 
1970 1935.9341I know a lot of people there too.1937.1354 
1972 1937.3184So it's not1937.9707 
1974 1938.6590like, oh he new f- he a new face, I'm not a new face but it's just that-1941.5710 
1976 1943.2846I'm a cool person like I'm not1944.6996 
1978 1944.9214gonna1945.3387 
1980 1946.1139come around somebody else neighborhood and start problems1948.2429 
1982 1948.8429because that's not1949.5069 
1984 1949.6673why I came, I came to live my life and1951.6510 
1986 1952.9605get through my life like.1954.2892 
1988 1955.8217Well,1956.1804 
1990 1956.4019something on social media about DC,1958.3125 
1992 1958.9430it was like,1959.5030 
1994 1961.4079DC1962.1679 
1996 1962.7485is like-1963.5126 
1998 1963.7607I'm trying to remember.1964.5034 
2000 1967.0222If you don't live your life you've got to survive your life.1969.5151 
2002 1970.8077Like,1971.1158 
2004 1971.2436you can't just walk around the neighborhood.1973.3926 
2006 1974.8533You can't just go anywhere you want to in DC you have to-1976.9623 
2008 1977.5581like, oh I can't go in that neighborhood cause certain things, like,1979.7431 
2010 1979.8472you have to be1980.4685 
2012 1980.9077aware twenty four seven even in-1982.7850 
2014 1983.3164even when you in your house /you gotta/ be aware.1985.1270 
2015DCB_int_011986.1738Do you feel like that's true?1987.3584
2016DCB_se1_ag1_m_011988.9348Yes,1989.5351
2018 1989.6271I do.1990.0898 
2019DCB_int_011990.1751Even when you're at home you don't even feel safe?1991.7999
2020DCB_se1_ag1_m_011992.4642No, cause a lot of things, stray bullets,1994.5011
2022 1996.0656uh,1996.5618 
2024 1997.8264breaking and entering like stuff like that.1999.6397 
2026 2000.7154You stay gotta be aware.2001.7114 
2027DCB_int_012002.9202Wow.2003.2615
2028DCB_se1_ag1_m_012004.5169Like one time2005.7132
2030 2006.5736/mm/ somebody tried to break in my grandad's house.2008.3216 
2032 2010.9233Yeah that's how serious it is.2012.5687 
2033DCB_int_012013.5923And this- t- this happens- this is not anything2015.9203
2035 2016.0294out of the n- ordinary like [this could] happen any2018.1500 
2036DCB_se1_ag1_m_012017.2140[Nope.]2017.4780
2037DCB_int_012018.2620random Tuesday?2019.2740
2038DCB_se1_ag1_m_012019.4986Yeah any day it can just happen.2020.9279
2040 2022.8242Like you have to change up your schedule like2024.7495 
2042 2025.5651if they know you get off at a certain time2027.0298 
2044 2027.9300you have to make sure someone in your house.2029.3033 
2046 2030.2070Like you can't just leave here like you can't just go out of town.2032.3710 
2048 2033.7284Be gone a month2034.8689 
2050 2034.9970and think you gonna come home2036.1772 
2052 2036.2693and think your stuff gonna be there.2037.3458 
2054 2039.2384Like you probably come home2040.5441 
2056 2040.6430and your stuff is gone.2041.6675 
2058 2043.4880Like2043.7962 
2060 2044.0483yeah.2044.3643 
2061DCB_int_012044.3845Why do you feel like it's like- okay I know we not- I- so we gonna move off of that but that's just so interesting to me like to hear2050.0588
2063 2051.0513you say this cause this is not something you just started noticing either I'm sure you did- you've noticed this all your [life.]2056.0613 
2064DCB_se1_ag1_m_012055.9172[Yeah.]2056.2334
2065 2056.8693Well like /once ? around/2057.8457
2067 2058.0098that happened around my dad- around my grandfather's neighborhood2060.2588 
2069 2060.9629is2061.2390 
2070DCB_int_012061.3911And [what is- what's his] neighborhood?2062.6364
2071DCB_se1_ag1_m_012061.6112[the w-]2062.0834
2073 2062.5156uh,2062.7237 
2074 2062.8077Twenty first, [that's where he's at]2064.0077
2075DCB_int_012063.4320[Okay that's-]2064.0094
2076 2064.1484Oh [that's the Northeast] okay okay.2065.4930
2077DCB_se1_ag1_m_012064.4525[Yeah.]2064.7538
2078 2065.5207So2066.0607
2080 2066.4051a- a whole building2067.4838 
2082 2068.2298went out of power2068.9072 
2084 2069.1222I mean not-2069.5785 
2086 2069.6665the water2070.2588 
2088 2070.3708main,2070.7430 
2090 2070.8428/like the/ water pipes were messed up.2072.1361 
2091DCB_int_012072.2354Mm-hm.2072.5954
2092DCB_se1_ag1_m_012072.9117And they had to shut the building down2073.9562
2094 2074.0963and move 'em.2074.6589 
2096 2075.2365And people was coming2076.2530 
2098 2076.6892like,2076.8973 
2100 2077.4495even though there's nobody there there's chains on the door2079.6399 
2102 2080.7589and locks.2081.2443 
2104 2081.6030They was breaking the locks2082.7644 
2106 2083.0437and going in people house2084.1922 
2108 2084.5601taking things.2085.2445 
2109DCB_int_012087.7536So now think about how the city- I don't know if you're-2090.0024
2111 2090.1024like if you2091.0309 
2113 2091.3790notice or if you see how the city is changing cause you're2094.4282 
2115 2094.5082still fairly [young],2095.6389 
2116DCB_se1_ag1_m_012095.3046[Mm.]2095.6486
2117DCB_int_012096.0209um, but this used to be Chocolate City.2097.6181
2118DCB_se1_ag1_m_012097.9582[Yeah.]2098.2984
2119DCB_int_012098.0175[And now] like if you get out of ward seven and eight2100.4114
2120 2101.0387[it's very different.]2102.0760
2121DCB_se1_ag1_m_012101.1627[It's different.]2102.0831
2122 2102.2112Like2102.4233
2124 2102.6794Eighth Street over on the Northeast side is way different.2105.4927 
2126 2105.8606in the daytime you see2107.2930 
2128 2107.8493crackheads, you see people hustling.2109.5959 
2130 2110.5025Then at night it's2111.5145 
2132 2112.1670I say all vanilla like it's no really black people.2115.4805 
2134 2117.1128Like2117.4729 
2136 2117.7531and it's only-2118.2894 
2138 2119.1218like, only person I see black people2120.7524 
2140 2120.8783it's /when/ they stand there in front of Popeyes and those are crackheads or2123.7516 
2142 2124.1238homeless people asking for food.2125.2851 
2144 2126.0444That's the only time.2126.8191 
2145DCB_int_012128.6776And why do you think that is the case? Or do you see that anywhere else?2131.9829
2146DCB_se1_ag1_m_012132.5632Uh,2133.1605
2147DCB_int_012133.5153Like-2133.8035
2148DCB_se1_ag1_m_012134.0156I don't really go2135.0280
2150 2135.1321all like2135.6403 
2152 2136.0685/around/ but2136.9209 
2154 2137.8053now I don't2138.6666 
2156 2138.9095but-2139.1977 
2158 2141.0505I would say it's like that on Eighth Street because2142.7492 
2160 2143.4714I'll say-2143.9236 
2162 2145.6764but I'm not gonna s- speak every black person but2147.7891 
2164 2148.2973as me2149.0257 
2166 2150.1859I'll say2150.7742 
2168 2151.2104as my range-2152.1949 
2170 2152.2869or my age range what I see2153.3514 
2172 2153.9917is2154.3356 
2174 2154.9599black kids fear white people.2156.7447 
2176 2159.0455I would say from my opinion that's what we feel.2161.0415 
2178 2161.4705Because on Eighth Street like you can see a lot of teens2163.9796 
2180 2165.0398then when that's like2166.0185 
2182 2166.2524time it get dark,2167.1208 
2184 2167.5367you gonna be around your neighborhood,2168.7973 
2186 2169.6897be at a party somewhere,2170.8302 
2188 2173.2031Yeah that's the only two.2174.2084 
2190 2174.5837You not gonna be2175.1237 
2192 2175.2840roaming the streets.2176.1164 
2193DCB_int_012177.9969Do you feel like-2178.7649
2195 2179.2134you said2179.7217 
2197 2180.1739black people fear white teens? Or do [black teens] feel-2183.1189 
2198DCB_se1_ag1_m_012182.2706[No like-]2182.7988
2199 2183.2750black teens fear2184.4276
2201 2184.6076white2184.8916 
2203 2185.2239adults.2185.7442 
2204DCB_int_012186.7644Do you feel like a lot of that's2187.8729
2206 2188.0850because of what's happening in the new- with [all the police] and stuff?2190.6099 
2207DCB_se1_ag1_m_012189.6294[Mm-hm.]2190.1067
2208 2190.8220It's like2191.2353
2210 2191.4062a lot of things happening.2192.5785 
2212 2193.8031So they be like,2194.7004 
2214 2195.2197oh I'm not trying to be in that predicament.2196.7604 
2216 2198.3009Or2198.7275 
2218 2200.5256it be like, if it's a group of black kids walking dow- like I'll give example, if a group of black kids walking down Eighth Street2205.8557 
2220 2206.4639it's all white people.2207.3026 
2222 2207.9847They gonna be like-2208.4929 
2224 2209.3453they gonna feel2210.0706 
2226 2210.6816like2210.9618 
2228 2211.2219this not even they city no more.2212.4384 
2230 2212.8866They gonna feel like2213.5029 
2232 2214.1312new.2214.6299 
2234 2215.9154There's gonna-2216.3796 
2236 2216.7118the way their environment is is gonna make 'em wanna do something stupid like,2219.8013 
2238 2221.6742Oh let's rob him2222.6826 
2240 2223.2386because he got the new iPhone.2224.4986 
2242 2225.6637Like that's how it is, like2226.7962 
2244 2228.3927that's why2229.1340 
2246 2229.4652I say2229.9974 
2248 2231.3138black kid-2232.0901 
2250 2232.2302black teens fear white people.2233.8830 
2252 2235.0871Because I- I think they're jealous of their like2237.0920 
2254 2237.1721not success but2238.1045 
2256 2239.0449they're more successful s- than them.2240.4133 
2257DCB_int_012244.2511So2244.6352
2259 2245.5953let's- let's move away for that- from that for a second.2248.0284 
2261 2248.9005What's your favorite book?2249.8931 
2263 2249.9770Or your favorite TV show2251.1617 
2265 2251.3737and why?2251.8617 
2266DCB_se1_ag1_m_012252.0580<laugh>2252.5502
2268 2252.9941I /um-/ I like to laugh so I say like2254.9647 
2270 2256.1913I watch MTV or BET.2257.8201 
2272 2258.0762I like to laugh a lot.2259.1669 
2273DCB_int_012259.9491Do you have a favorite show2260.8455
2275 2260.9175on either of those channels?2262.0258 
2276DCB_se1_ag1_m_012261.9778Uh, Ridiculousness like,2263.3104
2277 2263.6225a video it's like2264.6065
2279 2265.5074basically like2266.1154 
2281 2267.1319they show videos from YouTube2268.3924 
2283 2268.4962that was funny2269.1445 
2285 2269.2245and they talk about it like stuff like that.2270.8365 
2286DCB_int_012272.3060Um,2272.8513
2288 2273.3462what do you think-2274.2546 
2290 2275.9754where- oh,2276.5101 
2292 2276.8915you said about going out,2278.1401 
2294 2278.5123do you listen to go go music?2279.5488 
2295DCB_se1_ag1_m_012279.9770No.2280.2928
2296DCB_int_012280.9091No?2281.1571
2297DCB_se1_ag1_m_012281.3053No.2281.6054
2298DCB_int_012282.0497Why not?2282.3698
2299DCB_se1_ag1_m_012282.4859It's not music to me.2283.4672
2300DCB_int_012283.8785It's not? Why not? That's very interesting.2285.4758
2301DCB_se1_ag1_m_012285.5910It's just-2286.2313
2303 2288.0361it's just drum- like music to me is like-2290.3199 
2305 2291.7333like my fav- one of my favorite artists2293.5101 
2307 2293.7943is Lyfe Jennings.2294.7307 
2308DCB_int_012294.9388Hm.2295.2149
2309DCB_se1_ag1_m_012296.1113Cause he2296.6916
2311 2298.2000he talk about what you been through2299.4286 
2313 2300.0969and how2300.5889 
2315 2300.9933he is now.2301.8013 
2317 2303.2579Like2303.5301 
2319 2303.6421one of my songs is Made Up My Mind.2305.4189 
2321 2305.9432They talk about2306.5475 
2323 2306.6515how2307.1117 
2325 2307.2158church people2307.9208 
2327 2308.9443talk about people2309.7723 
2329 2309.9327and they do the same thing.2310.8812 
2330DCB_int_012311.1851Mm-hm.2311.5812
2331DCB_se1_ag1_m_012312.2896So yeah I like2313.3562
2333 2313.5021old R and B2314.4065 
2335 2314.6627like2314.9627 
2337 2315.6268Sam Cooke,2316.3708 
2339 2316.5713Boyz II Men stuff like that.2318.0646 
2340DCB_int_012318.4888Okay you [trying to be] like nineties, trying to be.2322.2426
2341DCB_se1_ag1_m_012319.3083[<laugh>]2319.7885
2342 2322.6415[<laugh>]2322.9977
2343DCB_int_012322.8057[Early] two thousands.2324.6586
2344 2325.3428Um,2325.8907
2346 2326.6711so no go go,2327.6876 
2348 2327.8637what about2328.3799 
2350 2328.7241mumbo sauce?2329.5467 
2351DCB_se1_ag1_m_012330.1364[Yeah. <laugh>]2330.7686
2352DCB_int_012330.3564[That's a very DC thing, right? You can't get] that anywhere else. [Tell me about] where is your favorite place to get your mumbo sauce?2336.2590
2353DCB_se1_ag1_m_012331.2648[Yeah. Yeah.]2332.6261
2355 2333.4618[No.]2333.8100 
2356 2336.9952Mm just any carry out2338.5319
2358 2338.8801[place with- yeah] any carry out.2340.1567 
2359DCB_int_012338.9118[Any carry out?]2339.5811
2360 2340.3334So how do you order- how- what do you order when you2342.3143
2362 2342.4664get your-2342.8637 
2364 2343.3148how do you order it? Like if I was trying to go and order me some-2346.0200 
2365DCB_se1_ag1_m_012346.8070Uh,2347.2432
2367 2347.3473it's basically a topping.2348.5959 
2369 2349.2322Like if you want chicken you like, can I get chicken with mumbo sauce, or2352.0708 
2371 2352.5334you want some fries, I get mumbo sauce on that too.2354.5423 
2373 2354.8381It's like a topping, basically.2356.0847 
2374DCB_int_012357.5473And do you have a favorite carry out or just2359.7363
2376 2359.8960any of 'em?2360.5293 
2377DCB_se1_ag1_m_012360.8764Any carry out.2361.4311
2378DCB_int_012362.7173Um,2363.2215
2380 2363.6337and then2364.2937 
2382 2364.6302let me ask you this, do you feel like2366.7587 
2384 2366.8388there's anything other than like, mumbo sauce and go go that make DC unique?2371.4528 
2385DCB_se1_ag1_m_012372.7572Yeah.2373.0746
2386DCB_int_012373.4416What?2373.6657
2387DCB_se1_ag1_m_012374.7579Teens like-2375.3859
2389 2376.8429it's a v-2377.3551 
2391 2377.4992lot of talented teens2378.8298 
2393 2379.0439with gifts.2379.6639 
2395 2380.4321But they don't know how to use 'em.2381.6041 
2396DCB_int_012382.1969Mm.2382.6382
2397DCB_se1_ag1_m_012383.4895Like,2383.7589
2399 2384.2576I know people who can sing like2385.7703 
2401 2386.0144n-2386.3666 
2403 2386.5226like2386.8388 
2405 2387.2230anybody never heard2388.3433 
2407 2388.8634like they just sing.2389.8581 
2409 2390.6483But when it's time for them like,2391.7805 
2411 2391.9646if I be like, see you sing2393.2659 
2413 2393.8055in front of me they'd be shy.2394.7428 
2415 2396.1665Like, oh maybe I don't sound right to you.2397.6029 
2417 2397.9591Cause2398.2552 
2419 2398.4513DC got a lot of people-2399.6713 
2421 2399.8000like I feel as though2400.6361 
2423 2402.1288a lot of people wanna judge you2403.2853 
2425 2403.5294no matter what you is.2404.7260 
2426DCB_int_012405.1779Mm-hm.2405.7381
2427DCB_se1_ag1_m_012405.7542You can be successful they be like,2406.9301
2429 2408.2710oh look at him he-2409.1514 
2431 2409.6757he's successful but he's dirty, or s- he's successful but2412.2769 
2433 2413.0412he don't have um,2413.5146 
2435 2413.7333he-2414.1253 
2437 2414.7257he don't have no parents, like2415.7222 
2439 2416.0183whatever you do, somebody's still gonna judge you regardless.2418.4930 
2440DCB_int_012418.7793Right.2419.0714
2441DCB_se1_ag1_m_012419.8115That's what2420.3435
2443 2421.1362my generation fear.2422.1575 
2445 2423.7854It- you- they can say, I don't let nobody get to me I do what I want to,2426.7427 
2447 2427.5549but you do2428.4390 
2449 2428.9512and you don't know it.2429.7876 
2450DCB_int_012432.4085What- I heard that s- um, and I didn't-2434.6096
2452 2435.1618I didn't get to he- I didn't get to hear any details but I heard you gave some great speech?2438.6311 
2453DCB_se1_ag1_m_012439.1794<laugh>2439.6476
2455 2440.2036[Well it's- it wasn't] basically-2441.9876 
2456DCB_int_012440.3917[What'd you talk about?]2441.2024
2457DCB_se1_ag1_m_012442.3646it was my life like what I've been through.2443.9533
2459 2445.7779And basically2446.6143 
2461 2448.0987how I got to where I am now.2449.8235 
2462DCB_int_012450.9237So can you give me a little bit? Can you-2452.6997
2464 2452.8926can you tell [me- cause it] was what, two, three minutes long?2455.2977 
2465DCB_se1_ag1_m_012453.4409[Uh-]2453.9171
2466 2455.5416Yeah.2456.0018
2467DCB_int_012455.9538So2456.2484
2468 2456.4980if I was sitting in the audience can you give me the speech or2459.7235
2470 2459.8276what you remember, it don't have to [be exact word for word.]2462.1196 
2471DCB_se1_ag1_m_012460.8718[Alright well],2462.0523
2472 2463.1728it's basically2464.1770
2474 2464.2491I grew up from a2465.7416 
2476 2466.3217single parent mother with two brothers2468.4667 
2478 2468.5788trying to feed.2469.5592 
2480 2470.2115Uh, my mom went2471.4959 
2482 2471.7480sometime days without eating just for us to eat.2474.1488 
2484 2475.0212Uh,2475.3614 
2486 2475.8256I been in a- situations,2477.6576 
2488 2478.3628I2478.5387 
2490 2478.7269carried guns before,2479.8789 
2492 2480.0232I tried to sell weed just to provide for my little brothers.2482.8486 
2494 2483.7807And that's not2484.5900 
2496 2485.0013what I wanted to be.2485.8759 
2498 2487.0302And it just show you2487.7755 
2500 2488.2465like2488.5786 
2502 2489.5311the program that I was- I'm in2491.1977 
2504 2491.5557or I'll like thank the2492.9004 
2506 2493.4326Civic2493.8768 
2508 2494.4008Leaders Program2495.3452 
2510 2496.1376for2496.5656 
2512 2497.0220giving me the opportunity2498.0127 
2514 2498.8027to2499.1947 
2516 2499.5790be somebody.2500.3591 
2518 2501.8318Because2502.5601 
2520 2502.9843like2503.2725 
2522 2503.5566without2504.0969 
2524 2504.2487being-2504.8889 
2526 2505.3692without me being right here I would /be and be/2507.0305 
2528 2507.5262out my friends any time of night2509.4070 
2530 2510.1271or playing basketball2511.4637 
2532 2511.5397all day. It's not2512.6840 
2534 2513.6364like2513.9126 
2536 2514.2687one day I'm'a do this or2515.6574 
2538 2515.8772it's not a set plan it's,2517.1538 
2540 2517.8941oh /RD-NAME-2/ let's go this way, if I don't got nothing to do I'm'a go.2520.3393 
2542 2521.0672Like that's why I like to be down here because I'm not-2523.1083 
2544 2523.7564I'm never2524.3871 
2546 2524.6168sitting around.2525.2448 
2548 2526.4974So2526.8736 
2550 2527.0497yeah.2527.4163 
2552 2527.8260It's a lot of-2528.4263 
2554 2528.9385it's a lot of commotion around here.2530.3792 
2556 2530.6193Like2530.9675 
2558 2531.7861yeah.2532.0957 
2559DCB_int_012532.7398Besides basketball cause I know that's a big [thing, what else] do you do for fun?2536.0877
2560DCB_se1_ag1_m_012534.8287[Mm-hm.]2535.2754
2561 2536.9257Uh, I play chess.2537.8018
2563 2537.9859I like to play chess.2538.7623 
2564DCB_int_012539.3305Mm, how long you- have you played chess for a long time?2541.5759
2565DCB_se1_ag1_m_012541.8434Yeah I played chess since I was elementary school like I have awards for it.2544.7207
2567 2546.0931Uh-2546.6371 
2568DCB_int_012547.6818How'd you learn to play chess?2548.7912
2569DCB_se1_ag1_m_012549.9146A old mentor2550.7826
2570DCB_int_012552.7276[He just was want-] he- w-2553.9442
2571DCB_se1_ag1_m_012552.7279[taught me how.]2553.3346
2572DCB_int_012554.0762took the chess board out saying, we gonna play chess?2556.0092
2573DCB_se1_ag1_m_012556.4333No like we was playing in his class,2558.6704
2575 2559.2544he was like, that's not how you play.2560.5783 
2577 2561.7392He was teaching us- the whole class like, this is a pawn2564.7206 
2579 2565.2288this is a king, queen, knight,2567.0097 
2581 2567.5737rook,2567.8656 
2583 2568.6942and just showing like, he used it as-2570.3048 
2585 2571.7313of power.2572.4076 
2587 2573.1397It was like, us black people are pawns.2574.8485 
2589 2576.2531And it's like2576.7211 
2591 2576.9051every step we take2578.0259 
2593 2578.5703you have to worry about something2579.6393 
2595 2579.7304getting taken away.2580.6068 
2597 2582.1713And he used the rook as-2583.3518 
2599 2583.6880the rook2584.0600 
2601 2584.7522either you can move forward in life2586.0775 
2603 2586.1769or you can move back.2586.9452 
2605 2588.7140It was like and the-2589.2340 
2607 2589.3261the king and queen,2590.3247 
2609 2590.7227it's like a queen2591.5191 
2611 2591.8552is basically2592.7196 
2613 2594.7538your own.2595.3191 
2615 2595.5647You can move anywhere you want to.2596.9290 
2617 2598.1216It was like,2598.5403 
2619 2598.9780a lot of people trying to-2599.9953 
2621 2600.6467a lot of people think that they're kings and queens but they're really pawns.2603.5998 
2623 2605.2683And that's it that what they use it as.2606.6810 
2625 2606.7810And he showed me he's like,2607.7544 
2627 2608.4258oh,2608.7111 
2629 2608.9778like that's what I need to reach.2610.2063 
2631 2611.4029I need to reach the highest level before I can move any type of way.2613.9626 
2632DCB_int_012618.3615That's really interesting, I don't think I've heard it quite like that before.2621.9512
2634 2622.5432Um,2623.2953 
2636 2624.3238what else do you do?2625.0091 
2637DCB_se1_ag1_m_012626.3647Uh,2626.9410
2639 2628.5374That's [basically it.]2629.4739 
2640DCB_int_012629.0777[That's pretty much it?]2629.9301
2641DCB_se1_ag1_m_012629.5739[Yeah.]2630.0821
2642DCB_int_012630.6064Um,2631.1906
2644 2631.3787do you think there's something2632.6241 
2646 2634.2717like,2634.8319 
2648 2635.2441that I haven't asked you that you were like, oh I should tell her about that?2638.0854 
2649DCB_se1_ag1_m_012639.5058Oh another hobby I like to swim.2640.8904
2650DCB_int_012641.7588Mm.2642.1030
2651DCB_se1_ag1_m_012642.3869Yeah.2642.8029
2652DCB_int_012643.9596How'd you learn to swim?2644.7729
2653DCB_se1_ag1_m_012645.5443My grandmother.2646.3870
2655 2647.3369Uh, one day we went to the pool2648.9816 
2657 2650.0581on South Carolina2650.9688 
2659 2652.2309and she just threw me in.2653.2762 
2661 2653.7195And that was like2654.3809 
2663 2655.3200swim.2655.7294 
2665 2655.8563And I had to learn [like that.]2656.9768 
2666DCB_int_012656.5566[Oh okay.]2657.0019
2667 2657.1649How old were you?2657.8212
2668DCB_se1_ag1_m_012658.3091I was probably like2658.8011
2670 2659.5937four.2660.0564 
2671DCB_int_012662.0548[Oh okay.]2662.7589
2672DCB_se1_ag1_m_012662.0669[And that's how I learned how to swim.]2663.0073
2673DCB_int_012663.6833Wow.2663.9913
2675 2664.0835She just said, go in [there and]2665.6522 
2676DCB_se1_ag1_m_012665.3601[Yeah.]2665.7468
2677DCB_int_012665.8403do it.2666.1457
2679 2667.1727And you've been swimming ever since?2668.3572 
2680DCB_se1_ag1_m_012668.5213Mm,2668.8200
2682 2669.3257I think she threw me in there to show like,2670.8701 
2684 2671.4704at the end of the day it's just you.2672.7590 
2686 2673.0551Like,2673.3750 
2688 2673.4470nobody else can help you but you- but yourself.2675.4070 
2690 2676.1683And that's how I interpreted it like,2677.5766 
2692 2677.9328oh maybe I got-2678.9061 
2694 2679.5336Me screaming is not doing /nothing/ maybe I gotta slow down and think2682.2865 
2696 2683.0629what I gotta do.2683.6856 
2697DCB_int_012684.0113Hm.2684.6380
2699 2686.6603Is your grandmother still alive?2687.7616 
2700DCB_se1_ag1_m_012688.0169Oh nah, she passed.2689.2796
2702 2690.0256From being in the streets.2691.3022 
2704 2692.7748Yeah.2693.1322 
2705DCB_int_012693.4789She passed, what'd you say?2694.4593
2706DCB_se1_ag1_m_012694.6514She passed from the streets like,2696.3434
2708 2697.4567yeah.2697.7941 
2709DCB_int_012698.0247When?2698.4407
2710DCB_se1_ag1_m_012699.1853Uh,2699.6975
2712 2700.4779say like,2700.9352 
2714 2701.3620two years ago.2702.0583 
2716 2702.2024Three years ago.2702.7946 
2717DCB_int_012703.9672Hm.2704.4205
2719 2705.1795[I'm sorry to hear that.]2705.9678 
2720DCB_se1_ag1_m_012705.3396[I got a tattoo] to remember I was-2707.0844
2721 2707.8567I can't put rest in peace cause she's not gone.2709.8256
2723 2710.1015So.2710.4977 
2725 2712.6066Yeah.2712.9400 
2726DCB_int_012713.7429Gotcha.2714.2309
2728 2715.6998Um,2716.2265 
2730 2717.0802and is there any other thing you wanna-2718.6601 
2732 2719.2772that you can think about?2720.0865 
2733DCB_se1_ag1_m_012720.8579Mm.2721.5339
2735 2724.0271I'd like to leave one message for2726.0557 
2737 2726.2038people my age.2727.0718 
2738DCB_int_012727.2123Mkay.2727.6165
2739DCB_se1_ag1_m_012728.1007Find something that you would like.2730.4335
2741 2730.8697Find something that's different2732.0062 
2743 2732.1263from everybody else.2733.0107 
2745 2734.1790Because a trend's easy to set2736.0518 
2747 2737.7763but2738.1257 
2749 2739.2370your life is not a easy step.2741.1739 
2750DCB_int_012742.6623Mm.2743.4257