Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DCB_int_01	0.2748	Where were you born?	0.9042
2	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1.6830	Here. Um, Southeast Washington DC.	4.2522
3	DCB_int_01	6.4613	What neighborhood	7.1560
5		7.8089	do you claim?	8.5456
6	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	9.1331	Uh I was actually	10.6346
8		10.7791	born and raised in	11.9029
10		12.3913	A Street	13.0628
12		13.4032	off of Alabama Avenue.	14.8906
13	DCB_int_01	21.8838	Have you lived anywhere else?	22.9283
14	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	23.9204	Um,	24.5452
16		25.3845	yeah maybe like, eight blocks	27.1751
18		27.3383	down	27.8139
20		28.0564	um,	28.5180
22		29.1009	in /Park Lane/.	29.9775
23	DCB_int_01	33.5994	But no- But you've always lived in the city?	35.2303
24	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	35.2070	Yes, [always] on this side.	36.8623
25	DCB_int_01	35.7245	[Mm.]	35.9530
26		40.0517	Um, do you- and you just graduated	41.6744
28		41.9530	[from high] school? Where'd you graduate from?	43.4078
29	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	42.0090	[Yes.]	42.5032
30		43.7296	/RD-SCHOOL-7/ High School.	45.6880
31	DCB_int_01	48.5965	Where'd you go to middle school?	49.6083
32	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	50.0746	/RD-SCHOOL-2/.	50.8813
34		51.4688	/Yes./	52.3268
35	DCB_int_01	55.8368	Um, do you currently work?	57.4782
36	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	57.9678	Yes.	58.4620
37	DCB_int_01	58.3595	What do you do?	58.8164
38	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	59.1930	I have a internship at the Department of Energy.	61.6690
39	DCB_int_01	66.0463	What do you do there?	66.5359
40	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	67.0908	Photography.	67.8555
42		68.0140	It's a photography internship.	69.7300
44		70.5180	[So] I'm taking passport pictures	73.1840
45	DCB_int_01	70.5273	[Really?]	71.0263
46	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	73.6783	and working on, um,	75.0947
48		75.2593	Photoshop Six.	76.5460
50		77.1615	So,	77.5858
52		77.8598	basically getting comfortable,	79.0022
54		79.3565	and they're hav- they have me shooting with a Nikon uh,	82.2709
56		83.0076	B three hundred.	83.7630
58		84.4193	I normally shoot with a Cannon, but they're teaching me how to use the Nikon.	88.0144
60		88.8257	And other than that,	90.0428
62		90.1908	um,	90.7317
64		91.3565	we have energy meetings,	92.7088
66		93.0492	just learning about	93.8512
68		94.4947	different forms of energy	95.8236
70		96.6804	like	96.9835
72		97.7529	coal and the way it's used and	99.9957
74		100.1776	solar panels, things of that nature.	101.8784
75	DCB_int_01	102.3027	So what do you want to do?	103.3659
76	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	103.8088	Uh, I want to be a photographer.	105.4175
78		106.0517	[And-]	106.6252
79	DCB_int_01	106.2196	[And how] did the Department of Energy- That just seems like it's-	109.2260
80		109.5757	How does- How are they related?	111.3196
81	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	111.8745	Uh, I actually got the internship	114.0707
83		114.9835	through Miss /RD-NAME-4/,	116.8020
85		117.1518	and she came to	118.8770
87		119.8737	um,	120.4053
89		120.6058	Art Night.	121.1654
91		121.5431	And that's a DCPS,	123.2730
93		124.1916	art show	124.8910
95		125.4821	that's hosted in um,	126.8716
97		127.8974	Gallery Place	128.9652
99		129.3616	in the Pepco Building.	130.4247
100	DCB_int_01	130.6812	Mm-hm.	131.0775
101	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	131.2780	And-	131.8236
102	DCB_int_01	132.2281	Seventh Street.	132.9089
103	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	132.9975	Yes.	133.5571
105		133.9907	And	134.7601
107		135.1797	there we have students from DCPS, and their teachers submit their art work.	140.1586
109		140.9746	And	141.4222
111		141.6693	my teacher from my high school, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/,	144.0521
113		144.7224	he submitted five of my pieces.	146.4710
115		147.2310	So	147.8605
117		148.7418	one of 'em	149.6231
119		149.8971	was a um,	150.7317
121		150.9089	a live auction piece	152.1026
123		152.8020	And the other four were um,	154.5087
125		155.2641	were on the wall,	156.0987
127		156.8390	and	157.3565
129		158.6435	they were being um, bidded- bidded on	160.9283
131		161.7478	by just like, different government workers and people who were interested.	165.6460
133		166.7791	And the highest one was the um, live auction piece, and it sold for six hundred and fifty dollars.	172.1077
135		172.6625	And the other one fell- I mean,	174.4519
137		175.8555	not very close but	177.3569
139		177.5901	not too far under that range.	179.4879
141		180.0509	And all the money	180.8716
143		181.0768	that was collected that night	182.4617
145		182.6342	goes back into DCPS	184.1823
147		184.4480	um,	184.9843
149		185.1708	art	185.4366
151		185.6184	programs	186.2887
153		186.6245	for art supplies.	187.7109
154	DCB_int_01	188.9186	So what did you take a picture of that was six hundred and fifty dollars?	193.1094
155	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	193.1421	Uh, the one that went for six hundred and fifty dollars was	196.4993
157		196.6672	of my school building.	198.1174
159		198.5918	Uh, /RD-SCHOOL-4/ recently	200.8953
161		201.5295	um-	202.2149
163		204.0369	They got-	204.6245
165		204.8716	They had the school rebuilt,	206.2845
167		206.8440	and we have some fantastic um, architecture now.	209.7350
169		210.2374	And I took a picture from the inside of the school building of our cafeteria.	214.0564
171		214.7092	And	215.2827
173		215.9204	it was facing	217.0255
175		217.6829	outside-	218.4523
177		218.6342	in the outside, uh, we have a courtyard	220.9283
179		221.3993	in the middle our school.	222.4193
181		223.3612	And	223.7949
183		223.9907	the way the windows curve,	226.0937
185		227.0076	it makes like a- a cool picture. And I t-	229.9068
187		230.0933	took that shot from the-	231.2077
189		231.6833	the cafeteria,	232.5553
191		233.2081	and I named it Window Wave and it sold.	235.8695
193		237.2590	I was the first person to actually take that picture I think	239.8551
195		240.3633	because the school-	241.4218
197		241.6456	Well, we were the first class-	243.5994
199		243.8652	class of twenty fifteen to graduate out of the new building.	246.5918
201		247.2726	And	247.7622
203		248.0979	we went into the building half way through the school year.	250.6066
205		251.6231	So-	252.1220
206	DCB_int_01	252.2514	Oh so you started at the old [school],	253.8555
207	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	253.6783	[Yeah, and-]	254.5409
208	DCB_int_01	254.2378	[and] then-?	255.3010
209		255.5248	What?	255.8792
211		256.0004	January or so, somewhere thereabouts, you moved into the new school?	259.0722
212	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	258.9509	Yes.	259.4871
213	DCB_int_01	260.3031	Cool. Okay, so,	261.7533
215		262.2522	that's kind of jumping way ahead, but let's go there for a minute. So tell me about high school.	265.9581
216	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	267.0585	High school for me- I mean I went to the same school for nine years.	270.2981
218		270.6478	I mean, not nine years- Since ninth grade, but for four years.	273.3196
220		273.9118	And	274.4014
222		274.7791	when I first got there,	276.0194
224		276.6991	of course, um, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School is in Ward Eight,	279.7346
226		280.3035	so	280.8304
228		281.1242	a lot of people pass judgement on it.	283.3192
230		283.7529	I mean	284.3637
232		285.5854	back	285.8838
234		286.0797	maybe	286.7791
236		287.3375	two thousand and four,	288.8156
238		289.4638	it was not the best school,	290.9606
240		291.3756	and it still isn't the best school.	292.8864
242		293.3468	Um,	293.7572
244		294.0696	mainly because it's like the neighborhood	295.9301
246		296.6062	kids	297.3523
248		297.8792	are the ones that	299.1335
250		299.8318	are	300.4333
252		300.7410	/majorily/- like um,	302.2472
254		302.5363	the majority in school.	303.6833
256		304.3734	So, they come from broken homes	306.3167
258		306.7177	and	307.2120
260		307.6037	some have like, behavior issues.	309.9818
262		310.1962	And it's not	310.7791
264		311.7012	any type of um,	312.9835
266		314.0280	standardized tests to get in the school or anything like that.	316.4667
268		316.9050	So,	317.4273
270		317.8924	when people get kicked out of some schools, they come to our school, or at least that's how it used to be.	321.9818
272		322.5553	And they	322.8211
274		323.0729	come to our school, and they get into fights and things like that.	326.5316
276		327.1937	And	327.7393
278		328.2475	a lot of violent things	329.5765
280		329.8924	did happen.	330.7690
282		332.0840	And now it- The school has changed	334.2988
284		334.5506	from me-	335.2501
286		336.3960	From the time I came and graduated,	338.0653
288		338.3824	I think it got better and better every year in my opinion.	340.9936
289	DCB_int_01	341.1615	What's the biggest change you saw in- in your four years?	344.0327
290	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	344.2565	In my four years, the biggest change I seen	346.3781
292		346.8118	was the um,	347.8889
294		349.0208	automotive program. I been in-	350.6482
296		350.8160	a part of the automotive program when I was in high school for	353.6744
298		354.1069	all four years.	355.5197
300		356.1679	And	356.7368
302		357.8139	your freshman year, you can't	359.1521
304		359.9903	be a automotive student	361.8788
306		362.3637	because they say you're too um,	364.4294
308		364.8444	like, playful, childish,	366.6991
310		366.9602	juvenile	367.6410
312		368.0840	to be around cars	369.3103
314		369.4688	and	369.8652
316		370.2429	things of that nature.	371.1335
318		371.6033	But I did their summer internship,	373.4218
320		374.5456	um,	375.2543
322		375.9305	ninth grade summer.	376.9610
323	DCB_int_01	377.3049	Mm-hm.	377.6219
324	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	377.5846	And	378.1535
325		378.7410	the summer internship	379.8601
327		381.2683	with applying for and going through it, you get class credits	384.6198
329		384.8436	for- if you take the class during the school year.	386.7274
331		387.3383	So my first time ever taking a class was during the summer time, and then when I went	390.8296
333		391.0022	tenth grade year,	391.8881
335		392.5456	I took the class. And then eleventh grade-	395.0278
337		395.4914	I mean tenth grade summer I did the summer time- I did the summer time internship again,	399.4222
339		399.8372	and I got credits for it, but	401.3993
341		402.2468	it actually started off as	404.0093
343		404.9932	um-	405.7626
345		406.7511	It was a lawnmower, like maintenance	409.2805
347		409.8601	type of class,	410.8300
349		411.1797	[and they taught you-]	412.2009
350	DCB_int_01	411.1797	[So it's /like you/ developing] skills.	412.6159
351	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	412.5879	Yeah, [it-] it just taught you how to um-	414.7317
352	DCB_int_01	413.0437	[Mm.]	413.3422
353	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	414.9695	Well way back in the day, they just taught you how to fix lawnmowers	417.4595
355		418.1729	in the class,	419.0076
357		419.3095	and like, work hands on- do hands on work.	421.4311
359		422.2238	And I thought, wow, some guy had	424.0983
361		424.9330	uh, the idea that it should be automotive shop	427.2586
363		427.4964	for the students to uh, work on cars.	429.6880
365		429.9025	And that's what they created	431.3247
367		431.5660	uh, through the help of um,	433.0255
369		433.8881	Darcars and Toyota.	435.6740
371		437.0029	And they invested a lot of money into the program and made a internship and paid students-	441.6134
373		441.9678	I mean, more than um,	443.7490
375		443.9717	minimum wage and more than summer jobs	446.2005
377		446.3777	pay students- I'm-	447.5155
379		447.8605	pay their workers, their summer workers.	449.7956
381		450.5032	So,	450.9788
383		451.5664	you get the experience	452.9513
385		453.7999	and you get paid	455.2629
387		455.8458	a l- nice amount of money	457.3192
389		457.6456	and you learning, and if you	459.2030
391		459.7812	really interested in it, you can get a internship	462.0894
393		462.5545	and	463.0814
395		463.2493	possibly work for Darcars after you finish high school.	466.4714
396	DCB_int_01	467.7911	Mm.	468.0753
398		468.2934	Did you see a lot of- I know you talked about there was some violence, what do you think was the- like the most violent thing you saw	474.0148
400		474.1815	while you were in school?	475.8368
401	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	476.1912	In school?	477.0352
403		477.5807	[Uh-]	478.2242
404	DCB_int_01	477.9538	[Like] at school.	478.9237
405		479.9157	We'll talk about the neighborhood in a minute.	481.3892
406	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	482.2611	Maybe uh, like a brawl.	484.0330
408		484.8024	Just like a lot of kids fighting at the same time.	487.1771
410		487.8555	I mean-	488.4337
411	DCB_int_01	488.5502	But it was just fists. There was no guns or knives or [nothing.]	490.8089
412	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	490.4853	[Yeah], it was just fists. And this was um,	492.9369
413		493.8788	possibly	494.4663
415		495.2403	ninth-	496.1543
417		496.3641	Well,	496.6719
419		497.1055	not ninth because I didn't see too many fights in the ninth grade. /Unintelligible/.	501.1797
421		501.5621	I was on the fourth floor, so	503.0169
423		503.6557	a lot of people that fought were upperclassmen, and they were on	506.8300
425		507.2357	like the first and second,	508.6905
427		509.2442	maybe even um, third floor. Like um,	511.7669
429		512.8533	tenth graders	513.6227
431		514.4667	will get into fights sometimes.	515.8003
433		516.2841	But	516.7457
435		518.0373	my senior year,	519.1518
437		519.5434	uh, twenty fifteen,	521.1801
439		522.1395	walking through the hallway going to class- I think it was my first period class.	526.1916
441		526.6765	I was walking past the bathroom,	528.6105
443		529.0488	and I seen these two guys- They were like in a um,	531.7859
445		532.2522	just getting into a altercation. They were arguing.	534.4379
447		535.2120	And I'm not sure what it was about, maybe like uh	538.4247
449		539.3014	neighborhood related.	540.3867
450	DCB_int_01	541.7712	Mm-hm.	542.0155
451	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	542.0606	So,	542.7507
453		543.7859	a guy was uh, was telling the other one to um, the other student, to step into the bathroom.	548.3870
455		548.9139	He wanted to I guess, fight,	550.1123
457		550.3175	but he didn't want to do it in front of everybody.	551.9961
459		552.3587	He was telling him to step into the bathroom,	553.8695
461		554.4616	and this of course made the other guy really angry	556.8490
463		557.2116	cause he wanted to like- like, why do you want me to step into the bathroom?	560.1166
465		561.1797	So	561.6180
467		562.5599	um,	563.2582
469		563.8877	after awhile of just	565.1467
471		565.3099	talking and	566.5083
473		567.0212	arguing,	567.6787
475		569.5333	uh, one of the guy's friends, or	571.7529
477		572.0140	family member that went to the school?	573.6320
479		573.9071	He just <hitting noise>	574.5413
481		574.8490	hit the other kid,	575.7956
483		576.0836	and they- Of course, they started fighting.	577.6130
485		578.2565	And during the time of them fighting, one of them- the guys pulled out um,	581.6557
487		582.3960	a razor blade.	583.2913
489		583.9301	It was-	584.6761
491		585.7952	It was like,	586.4387
493		589.3612	I'm not sure what type of uh, razor it was,	591.8465
495		592.0843	but when he pulled it out,	593.2407
497		594.0556	um,	594.7410
499		594.9369	the blade came out,	596.1586
501		596.4663	and it fell on the floor.	597.8605
503		598.3128	But had that not happened,	599.6464
505		599.8318	someone	600.4240
507		600.5918	possibly could have got stabbed.	601.9441
509		602.6155	And,	603.2030
511		603.5015	I mean, of course security was rushing	605.4599
513		606.0323	to the fight but,	607.1887
515		608.3497	not in time. I don't think they would have got there in time if that razor blade had not fal- fell out of um,	613.9767
517		614.5036	his hand	615.2543
519		615.7673	or	616.2335
521		617.4727	just uh,	618.2235
523		619.5990	just a thing that he had in his hand.	621.4642
524	DCB_int_01	624.1582	Did you see a lot of neighborhood	626.0327
526		626.3544	beefs going on? Like, not even just at school, just in general?	629.6639
528		629.8924	D- Is that something that you see often?	631.4778
529	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	632.0233	Yeah, and most of the time it's at school.	634.4061
531		635.2454	I mean, uh,	636.5172
533		638.0513	my neighborhood-	639.3150
535		639.9911	I mean I wasn't really born- I was born in a neighborhood,	642.5079
537		642.9695	but	643.3985
539		644.1119	my neighborhood got torn down	645.7020
541		646.0750	uh,	646.7884
543		647.3935	maybe like,	647.9996
545		649.3379	six years, seven years prior to me being born,	652.2196
547		652.6392	so	653.1708
549		654.5965	just growing up	655.5477
551		656.1679	in that neighborhood,	657.5388
553		658.7092	like being from somewhere, it's something that I couldn't like,	661.4871
555		661.7296	hold on to because my neighborhood was torn down.	664.4107
557		664.7651	And they made um,	665.9075
559		666.7270	condos.	667.6083
561		668.3031	They turned 'em into uh, condominiums, so.	670.3594
563		672.5172	I moved,	673.3006
565		673.6083	and when I moved, I moved into another neighborhood, Parkland,	677.6371
567		677.8831	not too far from where I was born and raised,	679.8275
569		680.2705	and	680.7601
571		681.6740	there, I didn't really relate with a lot of neighborhood kids. Cause I used to like to,	686.1539
573		686.6668	and still do uh, to this today, like to skateboard,	689.3795
575		689.6033	and things of that nature, so I didn't have too many things in common with	692.6155
577		693.1797	my um-	693.8885
579		694.7558	Just- just the-	695.4319
581		695.9810	the kids in my neighborhood-	697.1933
583		697.5337	the young males in my neighborhood. So, I used to always go up the street	700.1123
585		700.7558	to um, find people to	702.2000
587		702.4473	hang outside and play with.	703.8601
589		704.4383	And I found a group of kids to skateboard with and ride my bike and things of that nature.	709.3332
591		709.8648	So,	710.2798
593		711.4035	that kept- that- that- that kept me out of like, just being	714.2747
595		715.6596	in the mix	716.6109
597		716.7974	or	717.4269
599		717.5901	getting down with my neighborhood-	719.5007
601		719.7385	I mean the neighborhood that I moved to, just didn't getting down with those type of	723.0352
603		723.3476	individuals that was from there.	724.9283
605		725.8418	So,	726.2848
607		726.9236	that-	727.2174
609		727.3946	th- th-	727.9355
611		728.3132	Me moving kept me out of a lot of trouble,	730.4534
613		730.9093	and me skateboarding kept me out of a lot of trouble.	733.2547
614	DCB_int_01	733.6790	Mm, cause that wasn't something everybody did, so you had to find a spec- a- a	736.9534
616		737.2357	close group of friends and it wasn't a very big group.	739.3713
617	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	740.4018	Yeah, some people from my neighbor- neighborhood that I moved to- Some people didn't like it.	743.9631
619		744.3594	I mean,	744.8817
621		745.4365	I would never be	746.5137
623		747.3110	down there as often,	748.7565
625		749.2450	so when I go out to skateboard, it was always	751.6044
627		752.3551	uh-	752.9613
629		753.2970	/Either what-/	753.9359
631		754.3975	I had one neighborhood friend that skateboarded with me,	756.5599
632	DCB_int_01	756.9415	Mm-hm.	757.2207
633	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	757.3060	and he knew a lot of people in the neighborhood, so I- I think he kind of kept me safe.	761.7766
635		762.2801	But	762.5319
637		762.7231	once I got old enough to just go outside and go up the street and wander off, I started going up the street- up the hill	769.2920
639		769.7536	to a m- um,	770.7328
641		770.9380	another neighborhood	772.0151
643		772.7612	where	773.3802
645		773.9631	a lot of my friends uh,	775.5531
647		775.7769	well people that became my friends had	777.7307
649		777.9032	same or common interests	779.4175
651		780.0983	just as me, so.	780.9110
652	DCB_int_01	780.8257	Which neighborhood was that?	781.6977
653	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	781.9728	Uh, this was Henter- Henson Ridge, and they call it H and R.	785.1109
655		785.8185	And between Henson Ridge and um,	788.0614
657		788.5370	fifteenth place, one five.	790.1270
659		791.0352	And that's up the street from um,	792.4807
661		793.0122	Parkland,	793.7909
663		794.0427	where I was uh, where I moved to.	795.8706
664	DCB_int_01	796.4663	The Parkland right here [right?] Yeah, okay.	798.4107
665	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	797.4082	[Yes.]	797.7859
666	DCB_int_01	799.0215	So,	799.4878
668		799.7490	let's back up a little bit cause I just- I was really interested when you talked about the um, photography and- and /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	805.2920
670		805.6604	Um, <clears throat>	806.8308
672		807.5815	were your parents- where were your parents born?	809.3382
673	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	809.9351	My parents uh- my mom is from-	812.1593
675		812.5277	She's from	813.0825
677		813.2831	Greensboro, North Carolina.	814.5840
678	DCB_int_01	815.0317	Mm-hm.	815.4954
679	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	816.8863	And my father's from- He-	818.2852
681		818.7142	He's from here also, Southeast Washington DC.	820.9580
682	DCB_int_01	820.9580	Hm.	821.1675
684		821.3370	Kay.	821.6062
686		822.6765	And what do your parents do?	824.1546
687	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	824.9193	Um,	825.5768
689		826.1585	My mom, she passed away when I was five months.	828.9003
690	DCB_int_01	828.9835	Mm.	829.2627
691	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	830.0707	Um,	830.7863
692	DCB_int_01	830.7863	Sorry to hear that.	831.2450
693	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	831.8053	not sure of her job title.	833.5014
695		834.1869	My dad, he wasn't really	836.1500
697		836.7468	in my life.	837.6607
699		838.4348	Uh,	839.1575
701		839.8465	I was basically raised my grandparents.	841.8142
702	DCB_int_01	842.4904	Okay. [What did they do?]	843.5861
703	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	842.8587	[My grandfather] and grandmother. Um,	844.7845
704		846.0050	my grandmother, she was like uh-	848.1406
706		851.5994	I mean, growing up she just took care of the family.	853.7396
707	DCB_int_01	854.0101	Mm-hm.	854.3411
708	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	854.6442	Just took care- I mean I had a lot of- It was a lot of like, knuckleheads in my family.	858.3967
710		858.8210	Uh,	859.4412
712		859.9821	if you can imagine just like, what was going on in our neighborhoods.	863.2263
714		863.5994	My uncles and cousins, she-	865.8562
716		866.5510	they were just	867.0079
718		867.3250	getting into different things,	868.7845
720		869.0445	trying all different things, so she	870.4853
722		870.9190	kind of kept them all together just trying to keep the family together.	873.8426
724		874.5689	And my grandfather, he moved um-	877.1055
726		878.3645	He came here from North Carolina	879.9405
728		880.2110	also,	880.7845
730		881.8558	and	882.4294
732		884.0520	he used to work on the trash cr-	885.2224
734		885.6561	trash truck.	886.2623
736		886.4301	Um,	886.9011
738		888.8863	he worked on a trash truck, and then	890.6536
740		892.0991	he went to um,	893.1948
742		893.8139	the Army.	894.4573
743	DCB_int_01	895.3433	Hm.	895.6324
744	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	896.1593	So,	896.7095
746		897.5582	those are the two people who raised me growing up.	899.9258
747	DCB_int_01	900.3921	Are you an only child?	901.2920
748	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	902.0194	Uh no. My father has	904.1643
750		905.0958	me- including- including me, he has four kids. I have	908.6815
752		909.5908	three older brothers.	910.5549
753	DCB_int_01	910.7026	Three so- but you're the baby.	912.0517
755		912.2755	[Does your- does your] mom have any other kids or were you her only child?	915.2224
756	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	912.2801	[Yeah.]	912.7558
757		915.3343	I was the um, baby. I have- have one older sister on my mother's side.	919.0355
758	DCB_int_01	919.3899	Okay.	919.7909
759	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	919.7443	Yeah.	920.1873
760	DCB_int_01	920.2805	So you have four older siblings, and y- but you're the baby on both [sides? So were you] spoiled?	924.7931
761	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	923.4408	[Yes.]	923.9677
762		925.4039	Um, a bit much,	927.3996
764		927.7167	but I still kind of-	929.1704
766		930.4294	I still kind of- I wasn't um,	932.1453
768		932.7655	spoiled to the point where it effected like,	935.4082
770		935.6320	my behavior	936.4667
772		936.7791	cause I still was outside, and I still seen	939.0359
774		939.7400	what was realistic.	940.7554
775	DCB_int_01	941.8605	When you say that, what do you mean you were outside, you saw what was realistic? Like what did you see,	946.3089
777		946.7647	and how early did you realize like,	948.6998
779		948.9796	what was going on around you?	950.1873
780	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	951.7027	Uh,	952.4208
782		953.4735	I just always	954.2242
784		954.5086	like, just	955.3200
786		955.5251	be in different neighborhoods. I was never in just my neighborhood.	958.6539
788		959.3616	I had cousins that lived in um- I mean relat- like,	962.2479
790		962.6256	it was	963.1385
792		963.8846	close	964.4441
794		964.6679	together	965.2135
796		965.4968	within the same community, but just branched off in different neighborhoods.	969.1851
798		969.5442	So growing up,	970.2576
800		970.8580	I seen	971.7206
802		972.5273	just like,	973.0262
804		973.1661	homeless people m-	974.1173
806		974.2945	downtown.	975.0406
808		975.7727	This- this is when I started skateboarding downtown,	978.1916
810		978.6672	and I seen homeless people,	979.9262
812		980.2339	and just like,	980.9007
814		981.1805	a lot of just like, um,	982.6819
816		982.9326	people that didn't have much,	984.4014
818		984.9050	that was just outside on the streets.	986.4204
820		986.7888	Uh, you'll see the same	987.9965
822		988.6435	just like the same kids,	989.9734
824		990.0981	my age,	990.9003
826		991.5298	no shirt on walking around, and they may have the same pants on for maybe three days.	995.6040
828		996.2568	[But] they just walking around and I just say hey to 'em,	999.3996
829	DCB_int_01	996.2568	[Mm.]	996.4853
830	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	999.9405	but they just look like-	1001.0969
832		1001.5248	Oh you can just see that they just out there	1003.4785
834		1003.6977	in the streets just looking for something.	1005.4975
836		1006.3928	And I'm not sure	1007.3627
838		1008.1309	if they have a home or	1009.9075
840		1010.3038	what type of environment they live in,	1012.0804
842		1012.7694	but this is just the things that kept me	1014.5319
844		1015.1894	kind of- kind of focused.	1016.8308
846		1017.9860	Uh, needless to say,	1019.1331
848		1019.7299	I seen	1020.5273
850		1022.1173	uh,	1022.7095
852		1025.0398	just like, a lot of-	1026.2615
854		1027.1428	a lot of people just like, struggling.	1028.9660
856		1029.9545	So even in my um,	1031.3441
858		1031.9304	family, I didn't have everything I needed.	1034.6023
860		1035.5442	So,	1036.0291
862		1036.6948	my grandfather had a government job, and	1039.2967
864		1039.6464	he used to always try to get my family members jobs and things like that	1043.3243
866		1043.7999	in the same building.	1045.0215
868		1045.5997	Uh, he worked on Bolan Air Force Base,	1047.4929
869	DCB_int_01	1047.7727	Mm-hm.	1048.2016
870	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1048.0711	so he's always tried to get relatives	1050.5133
871		1050.8910	in my family a job	1052.1500
873		1052.5650	or just let them know what's out there.	1054.4861
875		1055.4128	Just help them out	1056.2522
877		1056.6159	because I mean,	1057.8096
879		1058.4670	after high school, most of my family members just	1060.8964
881		1061.3616	try to get like, small jobs	1063.0215
883		1063.5438	just to um, contribute to uh-	1065.7260
885		1066.2110	If they have families, the families they have.	1068.3361
886	DCB_int_01	1069.5951	Did you guys- Did all of your family, were you guys close? Like did you all live in the same, like within	1075.0122
888		1075.3619	the same area or the same vicinity of each other or were you kind of spread out throughout the city?	1078.9244
889	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1079.1611	No, we always lived together like, uh,	1081.7023
891		1082.2199	just within like the same- within a f-	1084.4348
893		1085.0118	five minute drive maybe,	1086.7558
895		1087.4272	ten minute walk.	1088.4810
897		1089.1059	So,	1089.6001
899		1089.9965	I mean I didn't come up with-	1091.7812
901		1092.0983	with living	1092.8817
903		1093.7956	with like, a big house with a lot of my family members in it,	1096.9430
905		1097.1424	but it seemed that way	1098.0936
907		1098.4014	because my aunt, she used to always	1100.3365
909		1100.8214	drive over to the house and	1103.1855
911		1103.5994	this way my cousins an- um-	1105.4365
913		1105.9681	Like in the mornings, I remember growing up,	1107.7773
915		1108.6120	um, going to school in the mornings,	1110.6299
917		1111.4552	my aunt,	1112.0241
919		1112.6442	she worked on Bolan Air Force Base,	1114.4488
921		1114.6948	and she had three um,	1116.5926
923		1116.9749	three kids, my cousins.	1118.3085
925		1118.7422	And waking up,	1119.9265
927		1121.3522	I used to wake up for school,	1122.6718
929		1123.0682	and I used to have to open the door	1124.4111
931		1124.7981	come downstairs to open the door for my um, my three cousins	1127.3907
933		1127.7393	because she had to leave out for work at six o'clock.	1130.3178
934	DCB_int_01	1130.6582	Mm-hm.	1131.0732
935	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1130.9333	So she used to drop um, my cousins off at our house	1133.9537
936		1134.3921	so that	1134.7371
938		1135.1987	within like, the next hour, hour and a half they can go to school from our house while she go to work	1139.4500
940		1139.9631	at six.	1140.7138
942		1141.3619	So,	1141.8422
944		1142.3598	I mean every morning I see my cousins	1144.3275
946		1144.8253	and	1145.3569
948		1146.6439	my um, my uncle, he used to uh-	1149.0546
950		1150.2809	Well, my other cousin- my older cousin,	1152.3548
952		1152.5273	he used to live with us.	1153.6744
954		1153.8189	My grandmother, um-	1155.1525
956		1155.7120	He was kind of back and forth out of jail	1157.6646
958		1158.2149	at um, one time in his life.	1159.8142
960		1160.4204	And	1161.0033
962		1161.9918	to keep him just like, stable my-	1163.9817
964		1164.2102	my grandmother would let him li- live with us. So he moved in with us,	1167.5628
966		1168.2098	and	1168.8160
968		1169.6553	he was just like, in the living room,	1171.2780
970		1171.6977	and I was	1172.7188
972		1173.4696	just back and forth, in and out of my room going to school	1176.1356
974		1176.8770	and just things like that. After school,	1179.1432
976		1179.4276	I would come home,	1180.3975
978		1180.9699	and my cousins that went to school with me in the mornings,	1184.9287
980		1185.7354	or just went to school, they would all come back to my house.	1188.4573
982		1189.2034	And my aunt after work, she would be at my house sometimes.	1192.2110
984		1192.6260	So, we all	1193.5714
986		1194.2242	were together,	1195.1335
988		1195.9401	but kind of	1196.6536
990		1197.1199	just in different locations at the same time.	1199.0118
991	DCB_int_01	1199.0585	Right, but it was kind of every day, y'all saw each [other, touch base. It was never] like, you didn't see them for weeks and weeks.	1204.8871
992	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1201.1101	[Yeah, every day.]	1202.3831
993		1205.1191	Nuh-uh. [It was never that] way. [Unless-]	1207.1055
994	DCB_int_01	1205.4641	[It was like,]	1206.0470
996		1206.5506	[the next day.]	1207.1241
997	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1207.4319	Unless my godmom would come pick me up. I have uh, a godmother.	1210.7752
999		1211.2357	She used to always- She- She lived in Wa- She- She lived- She- She fro- She's from here	1215.3343
1001		1215.5955	but she moved to Waldorf,	1216.8160
1002	DCB_int_01	1217.0212	Mm-hm.	1217.3336
1003	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1217.3196	and she's always	1218.2242
1004		1219.2780	picked me up on the weekends	1220.7608
1006		1221.1991	and take me	1221.9965
1008		1222.3788	to her house	1223.2228
1010		1223.4455	and with my god um,	1224.9982
1012		1225.5205	my godsisters and brothers.	1226.8681
1014		1227.2597	So,	1227.6607
1016		1228.0384	I got to be over there on the weekends, and that helped me	1230.4294
1018		1230.7511	get away from it all. Like, just not be	1232.9986
1020		1233.2504	just in Southeast my whole life. Used to travel,	1235.7999
1022		1236.6672	uh, Disney World, Busch Gardens, things like that.	1239.8846
1024		1240.2529	She had different um, timeshares in resorts	1242.9236
1026		1243.4039	that she used to take us on,	1244.5417
1028		1244.8308	so that gave me another-	1246.2016
1030		1246.8300	a- an- another just like, definition of family cause when I went over there, we had to do chores,	1251.5908
1032		1252.1131	and	1252.7332
1034		1253.9537	we just had to wake up a certain time.	1256.3225
1036		1256.9986	You could't sl- like, just sit around in the house.	1259.5900
1038		1260.2662	Uh,	1260.7931
1040		1261.0262	she took like, your education was like,	1263.0872
1042		1264.0011	very important. Like Cs to her was a F,	1266.5599
1044		1267.0122	used to always have to have As and Bs.	1268.6582
1046		1269.0639	This influenced me	1270.0757
1048		1270.4488	um,	1271.0596
1050		1271.4175	uh, she had like uh-	1272.2895
1052		1272.6019	Over there was like a more strict lifestyle,	1274.5137
1054		1275.0872	and she always gave me	1276.4208
1056		1276.6994	more room because I wasn't like	1278.5553
1058		1278.8583	her blood child,	1279.8655
1060		1280.5044	but I still learned from these type of things.	1282.7892
1062		1283.1564	Uh, she had her kids in young Marine programs,	1285.8189
1064		1286.5137	and	1287.1618
1066		1287.3903	just like JROTC uh, in high school	1290.1449
1068		1290.6252	and things like that. So getting-	1292.1406
1070		1292.4904	getting out of the neighborhood going over there and traveling	1294.8964
1072		1295.4921	and just	1296.1776
1074		1297.1754	doing chores.	1298.3878
1076		1298.6582	It just like, gave me structure. And then wh- i- it made me want more	1302.4713
1078		1303.1241	than what I had	1304.0241
1080		1304.7049	or what I seen	1305.6374
1082		1306.1597	just on- on a regular basis	1308.2102
1084		1308.5879	throughout the week.	1309.2174
1086		1309.9681	So to go over there on the weekends,	1311.5722
1087	DCB_int_01	1311.9825	[You went over] there like every weekend? [Almost?]	1313.9258
1088	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1311.9872	/it like ?/.	1312.4721
1090		1313.3569	[Yeah, every] weekend, and she used to come pick me up.	1315.4505
1091		1316.4904	Every weekend.	1317.3357
1093		1317.5209	Like, all I have to do is call her and pack my bag	1319.8558
1095		1319.9864	for the weekend and she would come.	1321.4086
1096	DCB_int_01	1322.2339	So that was like your other cousins sort of- Even though they weren't really your cousins [cousins], /they like/	1326.3175
1097	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1325.4875	[Yeah, they]-	1325.9677
1098		1326.4154	They- they were more like my sisters and brothers. E- Ev- Even- even my cousins, like, we were all so close, they were like my sisters and brothers,	1332.0563
1100		1332.2149	so.	1332.5553
1101	DCB_int_01	1332.8910	Now for your	1333.6744
1103		1334.0567	siblings, like your older sister from your mom and then your dad's-	1337.2834
1105		1337.4828	your um, older [brothers], did you live with them at all, or- ?	1340.5650
1106	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1338.7045	[Mm-hm.]	1338.9936
1107		1340.6815	No my sister uh, she uh- I lived with my sister growing up,	1343.2648
1109		1343.4641	and	1343.8558
1111		1344.6252	she was uh- she was always in the house.	1346.5743
1113		1347.2364	Uh,	1347.7167
1115		1348.8253	I was never in the house,	1349.8325
1117		1350.3221	[so- Yeah. So] I-	1352.2339
1118	DCB_int_01	1350.3221	[/Cause you was always doin- dow Waldorf]	1351.8515
1119	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1352.7002	I talk to her when I'm in the house but other than that I'll be outside all the time.	1356.9050
1120	DCB_int_01	1357.3853	[Mm.]	1357.6277
1121	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1357.3899	[All] the time.	1358.0894
1122		1358.6349	And	1359.0965
1124		1359.3483	as far as my brothers,	1360.4430
1126		1360.6155	I only know one of 'em. He um,	1362.4433
1128		1363.3573	I grew up	1364.0847
1130		1364.9520	uh, going over to my father house maybe a couple times,	1367.7299
1132		1368.1496	and seeing two of my brothers.	1369.8515
1134		1370.1826	One of 'em I haven't seen in like, I don't- Forever.	1372.9617
1136		1373.5947	But	1374.0050
1138		1374.4200	one of my brothers, he um, growing up, he used to come pick me up	1377.5488
1140		1377.8053	take me and my um,	1378.8358
1142		1379.2030	my first cousin,	1380.2149
1144		1380.4433	which is like my brother- He used to take to us like- I remember one time he took us bowling,	1384.1690
1146		1384.8067	and we had a ball.	1385.7019
1148		1386.4667	And he used to take me out, just take me out, just riding around with him.	1389.6234
1149	DCB_int_01	1389.9749	Mm.	1390.1992
1150	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1390.1912	But most of the time, he wouldn't be doing but- so much, but just like hanging around by the stores with his friends,	1395.4929
1151		1395.8566	or he j- j- just take me out with him.	1397.2788
1153		1397.8418	And I probably just be sitting out there with him or sitting in the car	1401.7587
1155		1402.1317	for a few minutes or hours,	1403.7859
1157		1404.3268	and then he'd bring me back in the house but he's always come pick me up at o- some point in time	1408.2576
1159		1408.6295	before he um-	1409.6926
1161		1410.5180	He got locked up.	1411.3433
1163		1412.4158	And	1413.1432
1165		1414.2343	one of my um,	1415.1062
1167		1415.7439	my brothers, like these are my older brothers. They're like in their thirties.	1419.0173
1169		1419.4975	One of 'em uh, he- he's in the Navy. The one I didn't see	1422.5319
1171		1423.1195	so often.	1423.8609
1172	DCB_int_01	1424.3411	Mm.	1424.5883
1173	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1424.5323	And the one that's um, he's like close to my age,	1427.1995
1174		1428.4573	um,	1429.2034
1176		1431.2970	I haven't really seen these guys like,	1433.1809
1178		1433.5014	so mu- We wasn't real close,	1435.2967
1180		1435.6277	but	1436.0614
1182		1436.6722	like,	1436.9986
1184		1437.2691	I know that	1437.8519
1186		1438.1923	th- they're my brothers,	1439.5667
1188		1439.9211	so	1440.3641
1190		1441.2640	we-	1441.6557
1192		1441.8888	I mean one of 'em-	1442.6163
1194		1443.2924	He was more around me than the other two,	1445.8838
1196		1446.3921	but it kind of worked out. I learned from- I learned different things from these type of situations	1450.8999
1197	DCB_int_01	1451.3243	What do you think- What lesson did you take	1452.9330
1199		1453.4692	from interacting with your brothers or not having them in your life all- like you wanted them to, what lesson did you take	1458.4060
1201		1458.7744	from that?	1459.1288
1202	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1460.3038	Uh,	1461.0592
1204		1461.9638	it wasn't	1462.5001
1206		1462.9512	no, like I- I- I didn't lack anything	1465.2594
1208		1465.9961	or I didn't really blame them for anything.	1468.0711
1210		1468.7740	I just	1469.2263
1212		1469.3895	picked up like different experiences	1471.4226
1214		1471.7443	from it. Like when I seen- Like when I started to see his face, I will remember him or	1476.4200
1216		1476.8350	started to call him and talk to him about certain things,	1479.4696
1218		1479.9219	but I didn't really-	1480.7798
1220		1481.3103	I wa- I was never around them to pick up	1483.1101
1222		1483.7956	on like,	1484.4344
1224		1485.1245	just like, different things.	1486.5887
1226		1487.3569	So I just took away as much as possible, just like, from the interactions I had with 'em	1491.6188
1228		1491.8752	growing up.	1492.2809
1229	DCB_int_01	1494.4060	Okay.	1494.8490
1231		1495.1894	Um, how did you start coming to the Boys and Girls Club?	1497.3996
1232	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1498.4255	Oh it's crazy because	1499.9817
1234		1500.4993	I came to the Boys and Girls Club -	1502.0707
1236		1502.2432	I um-	1503.1059
1238		1503.9685	I actually rejoined not too long ago,	1506.0423
1240		1506.4247	but when I first- first started coming down here,	1508.7095
1242		1509.0592	it was because one of my um, elementary school friends.	1511.8605
1244		1512.2522	And he was kind of like my brother. We used to always hang around.	1515.0779
1246		1515.4649	Um, we went to elementary school together,	1517.7439
1248		1518.1169	and after school he lived right across the street from my elementary school. Um, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School.	1522.5922
1249	DCB_int_01	1522.6015	Mm. Oh, down the street?	1523.6646
1250	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1523.6926	Yes.	1524.1962
1252		1524.7185	We went to that school before it got remodeled,	1526.7748
1254		1527.3204	and he used to live directly across the street,	1529.6786
1256		1530.0750	so after school I used to go over his house.	1532.1593
1258		1532.7002	And sometimes we would leave and go to my house,	1535.0270
1260		1535.3009	but his grandmother worked in the ARC	1536.9096
1262		1537.2127	side of the Boys and Girls Club. The Boys and Girls Club and the ARC is connected,	1540.6539
1264		1541.2869	along with the Covenant House.	1542.4807
1266		1542.9003	Uh, his grandma worked in the ARC,	1544.4997
1268		1544.6909	and we used to always come-	1545.6794
1270		1546.0851	come in and just do our homework.	1548.1636
1272		1548.9376	We would come in- I started	1550.0194
1274		1550.4158	just- just hang out with him, so	1552.0944
1276		1552.7659	of course like,	1553.7766
1278		1554.7977	it didn't stop at just me going over his house. We just	1557.7540
1280		1558.0757	went to school. I went over his house and then we went to the Boys and Girls Club or the ARC.	1562.4624
1282		1562.9660	But	1563.2784
1284		1564.1270	when we used to hang around in his grandmother office,	1566.4340
1286		1566.6672	and then	1567.3946
1288		1567.8376	he used to be like, okay.	1568.8494
1290		1569.3250	He would say bye to his grandma and then he would say, I'm going to the Boys and Girls Club. And we'll just-	1573.1894
1292		1573.7210	just walk right up- r- like,	1575.0825
1294		1575.4882	open the door, and then go-	1577.0316
1296		1577.4781	go across to the other side, [and] then we on the um, in the Boys and Girls Club.	1581.3110
1297	DCB_int_01	1578.8257	[Right.]	1579.1521
1298	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1581.6747	And there we played like video games	1583.6693
1300		1584.3408	and	1584.9656
1302		1585.6091	I didn't do much because at the time, I wasn't a teenager, and	1589.1948
1304		1589.7206	I couldn't get into the te- the Teen Center.	1591.6091
1306		1591.9355	That's what I always wanted to do. I wanted to go in the Teen Center	1594.3555
1308		1595.0585	for some reason.	1595.9258
1310		1596.2428	It was like a pool table back then,	1598.1220
1312		1598.4764	and things like that. It was a game room. I used to always play uh,	1601.4500
1314		1601.8045	different games and like, bumper table- Um,	1604.1779
1316		1604.3831	bumper pool	1605.0965
1318		1606.0757	and	1606.5467
1320		1607.6367	I paid uh, after awhile, I paid a twenty dollar club fee.	1611.2737
1322		1612.1550	And his mom used to	1613.0363
1324		1613.4968	take me home after we leave the club,	1615.1288
1326		1615.6837	so she um, got my	1617.5069
1328		1617.9359	grandparents involved.	1619.3802
1330		1619.9537	And they end up uh, paying	1621.6650
1332		1622.1593	the club- the member fee.	1623.3064
1334		1623.7866	And I came down and got my ID,	1626.0050
1336		1626.8723	and	1627.3946
1338		1628.3878	I used to always come down,	1629.6095
1340		1629.8473	but	1630.1131
1342		1630.4161	after awhile, my friend moved.	1632.0144
1343	DCB_int_01	1632.5713	Mm-hm.	1632.8157
1344	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1632.8630	And after he moved,	1634.2945
1346		1634.8774	I ended up um,	1635.9079
1348		1636.8953	I went to middle school,	1638.1169
1350		1638.4294	and I met new friends.	1639.6091
1352		1640.2526	So,	1640.7422
1354		1641.0686	they wasn't really coming down to the club. I didn't have anybody to influence me to	1645.0888
1356		1645.3266	continue to go the club, and I thought there was no reason to come to the Boys and Girls Club	1648.8658
1358		1649.2703	after my friend left.	1650.2681
1360		1650.8090	So I had nobody to really	1652.0680
1362		1652.4271	go with and the people that- the- the new friends I met at um,	1655.4953
1364		1655.9371	middle school,	1656.6319
1366		1657.3126	they didn't go to the Boys and Girls Club, so I kind of forgot about it.	1660.1850
1367	DCB_int_01	1660.4650	Mm-hm.	1660.9735
1368	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	1661.7832	But	1662.1236
1370		1663.4199	um,	1663.9375
1372		1664.9633	after like, not being in the Boys and Girls Club,	1667.0476
1374		1667.7739	I was just like,	1668.4826
1376		1669.1308	in the neighborhood up the street from where I lived and with my friends, like the group of us, we used to always skateboard.	1674.7578
1378		1675.2101	We was up the street skateboarding or I'd be at my friend house playing video games.	1679.1595
1380		1679.6200	Or we be like making skate videos like, um, editing our skate videos- the- the videos that we record throughout the day,	1685.8671
1382		1686.3940	and putting them together, watching a movie	1688.6789
1384		1689.2990	or something like that at my friend's house.	1691.1362
1386		1691.6713	But	1692.0257
1388		1692.3288	um, last year, my junior year of high school,	1694.4644
1390		1695.4529	my um, cousin-	1696.6233
1392		1696.9730	Because-	1697.5466
1394		1698.0770	When I was going to elementary school, my cousin used to play um-	1700.8094
1396		1701.4482	He was in um-	1702.3389
1398		1703.1409	He was in middle school when I was elementary school, and he used to play basketball	1706.4784
1400		1706.7302	come down here and play basketball for the um, the club team,	1709.1036
1402		1710.2728	and	1710.7438
1404		1712.1380	uh, my junior year last year,	1713.8026
1406		1714.6140	he came down and played basketball. He was like, I'm going to play basketball.	1717.6530
1408		1718.0774	And I was like, where you playing basketball at?	1719.5322
1410		1719.8819	And he said, The Boys and Girls Club.	1721.3740
1412		1721.8532	So I'm like, well I haven't been down there in a long time.	1723.7276
1414		1724.2639	You going down there to play basketball? I'm coming down there with you.	1726.4181
1416		1726.9590	So	1727.3740
1418		1728.0024	um,	1728.5992
1420		1730.1193	I just came in. And there was just like, a welcoming feeling when I came in, and I- I was coming in to just like, play basketball,	1737.1778
1422		1737.9565	and	1738.5021
1424		1739.4440	every since the first time, like, that welcoming feeling- I just- I just felt that same welcoming feeling just over like again and again and again	1746.2961
1426		1746.8184	because like,	1747.4619
1428		1748.2545	um,	1748.8094
1430		1750.1384	uh-	1750.4927
1432		1751.2983	It- it was a way for me and my-	1752.5293
1434		1752.8463	my cousin to just like, bond and connect, through like playing sports	1756.3249
1436		1756.7725	and working out.	1757.5745
1438		1758.2355	And then,	1758.9349
1440		1759.1914	I w-	1759.5831
1442		1759.9235	I got out the house.	1761.1358
1444		1761.3550	Uh, my friends-	1762.5067
1446		1763.5034	My friends that I was skateboarding with, one of 'em moved to Texas um,	1767.5089
1448		1768.1523	not too long ago so he was gone. We used to always be in his house um,	1771.6530
1450		1772.7068	watching these skate videos and watching movies	1775.5885
1452		1775.8998	and playing the video games, so I didn't have too much	1778.5157
1454		1779.1871	to do besides be outside and skateboard by myself or with one of my other friends	1783.9515
1456		1784.4830	that um,	1785.3597
1458		1786.1663	I was skating with back in the day.	1787.5605
1460		1788.4174	So, being down here, I just um,	1790.3152
1462		1792.0498	I ended up just- just meeting and running into different like, r- r-	1795.2194
1464		1795.7883	um, resources.	1797.2338
1466		1797.4576	So, I just come down- I starting coming down	1800.1049
1468		1800.2961	um, b- became a active member.	1802.5390
1470		1803.0006	I met	1803.3783
1472		1803.9099	a lot of positive people	1805.3041
1474		1805.9511	um,	1806.4500
1476		1806.9349	on just like,	1807.6064
1478		1808.1986	the multiple trips down here over the time,	1810.1477
1480		1810.6979	and	1811.1502
1482		1811.4661	it gave me a place just to like, just get out of the-	1813.4758
1484		1813.8022	t- t- to get out of the house. Um,	1815.4389
1486		1816.0964	I used to fall asleep	1817.3227
1488		1817.5687	a lot	1817.9837
1490		1818.4314	just trying to do my homework in the house	1820.2592
1492		1820.6322	or maybe I couldn't focus because my grandfather, my sister was um,	1823.9836
1494		1824.4826	arguing	1825.0655
1496		1825.3360	sometimes, and	1826.5063
1498		1826.6742	I couldn't really focus	1827.8726
1500		1828.6466	just in the house	1829.5559
1502		1830.0397	and like, just trying to just lay down like-	1831.9375
1504		1832.1986	Most of the time, I did my homework in the house,	1834.0218
1506		1834.4787	I would lay down and over wh- over um, a period of time, I would fall asleep.	1838.7628
1508		1839.5835	And when I would wake up, I wouldn't w-	1841.0709
1510		1841.3496	I either wouldn't want to do it anymore,	1843.3313
1512		1843.9561	or	1844.5670
1514		1844.7768	I'd just forget about it.	1846.0684
1516		1846.8844	So coming down here gave me resources of- just having like um,	1850.5996
1518		1850.9167	a computer, like computer access,	1852.6093
1520		1853.2621	uh, I didn't like	1854.4127
1522		1854.7717	using the library computers because it's um, it's timed.	1857.5741
1524		1858.0917	And after you run out of the um-	1859.7657
1526		1859.9884	after that time period is over,	1861.5411
1528		1861.8722	if you're not finished, your stuff possibly can be deleted.	1864.6280
1530		1865.5279	And if	1866.1749
1532		1866.7065	you are finished, you just stuck in that scuffle, just trying to hurry up and save it.	1870.4228
1534		1870.7492	Hurry up and save it.	1871.4859
1536		1872.4080	So,	1872.9210
1538		1873.7323	I didn't really like uh, staying	1875.5555
1540		1875.8912	after hours after school was over to	1878.1329
1542		1878.6458	type up /exays/-	1879.6530
1544		1879.9608	essays either.	1880.7954
1546		1881.4203	So it gave me the resources of having a computer	1883.5792
1548		1884.2169	and just being around positive people.	1886.1053
1550		1886.3711	And then after awhile, I started like, just joining um,	1889.2761
1552		1889.9651	programs.	1890.7717
1554		1891.2893	And even in programs that I just listened /on/ I learned stuff, like money- like how to manage your money,	1896.7298
1556		1897.3173	and they had a um,	1898.7115
1558		1899.0939	Image Makers photography	1900.4694
1560		1900.6186	program	1901.1549
1562		1901.7459	that	1902.0910
1564		1902.4360	gave me	1903.2147
1566		1903.8116	the opportunity t- to just like,	1905.6954
1568		1907.1968	like /extend/ my art.	1908.9256
1570		1909.4385	S- s- I did um, photography in h- in high school	1912.7912
1572		1913.7972	during um,	1914.7764
1574		1915.0655	during school time.	1915.9235
1576		1916.4877	So after school was over,	1918.2363
1578		1918.9299	uh, I can take what I learned in class down here to Image Makers, the photography program at the Boys and Girls Club	1925.2994
1580		1925.7739	and tell my club members what I learned about photography in school.	1929.5741
1582		1929.9985	And they're learning from me, and we're learning at the same time.	1932.3754
1584		1932.8230	And	1933.2986
1586		1933.7976	with this, I'm still	1935.1218
1588		1935.4762	focusing on photography, and I'm still doing photography so it-	1938.5246
1590		1938.9210	photography became like,	1940.1753
1592		1940.8234	um,	1941.2711
1594		1941.4109	a art,	1941.9332
1596		1942.1384	for me but it became like, twenty four seven.	1944.1609
1598		1944.3894	Like from just me	1945.3313
1600		1945.5598	taking pictures on my phone	1947.0332
1602		1947.6534	to coming down here and using the different Nikon and Cannon cameras	1951.3546
1604		1951.6251	to being in school	1952.6695
1606		1953.1638	uh, using a Cannon camera.	1954.7818
1608		1955.3496	And they having the same computer I had at school, working on um-	1959.7280
1610		1960.3575	Well they didn't have-	1961.3041
1612		1961.8345	did- didn't have Photoshop on the computers down at the Boys and Girls Club	1965.2524
1614		1965.4949	but I could still	1966.0917
1616		1966.4741	tell club members	1967.9476
1618		1968.2542	how to use it, and what I learned in Photoshop and that I was using Photoshop.	1972.1663
1620		1972.5534	And they had iPhoto that I used in school so,	1975.2101
1622		1975.8535	I was just doing the same things in school when I came down here along with doing my homework	1980.1423
1624		1980.5619	and knocking other things out.	1981.9701
1626		1982.4411	And over that time, I f- I um,	1984.2363
1628		1984.5067	found a mentor, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/.	1985.9836
1630		1986.4360	And	1986.8930
1632		1987.7883	uh, it's crazy cause we was just talking about um, how we met not too long ago.	1991.7925
1634		1992.4127	And	1992.8976
1636		1993.0655	it was just me	1993.8629
1638		1994.1613	playing basketball, and	1995.8166
1640		1996.5720	I just learned his name, just from the other club members calling him Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, and I started calling him Mr. /RD-NAME-2/.	2002.6140
1642		2003.0336	And then after awhile, we starting playing around with him um,	2005.9515
1644		2006.3431	asking me just about-	2007.5741
1646		2007.9798	just about the money situation. Like my m- um,	2010.6458
1648		2010.9816	my member fee.	2011.7463
1650		2012.4830	And	2012.9726
1652		2013.6488	we was talking about that, and	2015.2435
1654		2015.6993	he got the money.	2016.5386
1656		2017.2007	And we just clicked. He started helping me out	2019.9938
1658		2020.6699	um,	2021.3880
1660		2022.3521	/little bit/. He just always	2023.8069
1662		2024.1100	just stayed a extra fifteen minutes, maybe fifteen or thirty minut-	2027.5559
1664		2027.7319	minutes	2028.3008
1666		2028.7111	waiting for me.	2029.5598
1668		2029.8722	Being the last person	2031.0006
1670		2031.6907	um, out the Boys and Girls Club	2033.5512
1672		2033.7226	some nights	2034.4920
1674		2034.7391	tryna type my essay	2035.9235
1676		2036.3758	or finish my essay	2037.5042
1678		2038.0078	before um,	2039.0057
1679		2039.0057	0	2039.2330
1680		2039.2330	it was due.	2039.9278
1682		2040.6225	So he helped me out	2041.8442
1684		2043.1545	with that part,	2043.9752
1686		2044.7119	and just like-	2045.3740
1688		2046.8463	just him	2047.4199
1690		2047.9561	living not too far from where I live, we both lived up the street.	2051.1642
1692		2051.7039	So I can always call him,	2053.2101
1694		2053.6624	or if I needed to talk to him, I can just	2055.4482
1696		2055.8166	leave my house and walk a block down the street	2058.0117
1698		2058.5572	and go to his house. So he was always open,	2061.2897
1700		2062.0498	0	2065.7230
1702		2066.3478	that really helped me	2067.3457
1704		2068.2456	just like, having a mentor	2069.9836
1706		2070.4547	and just like,	2071.1774
1708		2071.8442	just different type of mentors cause I looked up- I mean, you can find a mentor	2075.9836
1710		2076.4826	in	2076.9909
1712		2077.9654	uh,	2078.3758
1714		2079.2011	just a person that's on the street	2080.5254
1716		2080.7772	and that's doing-	2081.5186
1718		2082.0210	/doing illegal/ things.	2083.2520
1720		2083.5877	Or you can just um,	2084.9680
1722		2085.3037	have multiple mentors where you learn from	2087.4207
1724		2087.9138	your older friends. Cause I had a older friend,	2090.1333
1726		2090.8188	uh,	2091.3690
1728		2091.8026	growing up.	2092.5534
1730		2092.7352	I used to always learn from him,	2093.9044
1732		2094.4453	but I thought everything he did was right.	2095.9002
1734		2096.1193	And that the only-	2096.8141
1736		2096.9773	the only way to do things until I met Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, and I'm like, oh,	2100.3661
1738		2100.8324	well,	2101.1961
1740		2101.7649	somethings he tell me are wrong.	2103.9239
1742		2104.2503	And it's possible that	2105.3927
1744		2105.6526	people that's older than you can be wrong sometimes.	2107.7883
1746		2108.2592	So.	2108.6369
1747	DCB_int_01	2108.7255	A lot of times	2109.5975
1748	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2109.5602	Yeah, it gave me a different n- n- different aspects on things.	2113.1215
1749	DCB_int_01	2114.0727	So,	2114.4550
1751		2115.8539	if you had to choose one of your-	2117.0989
1753		2117.7972	If you had to choose one experience and say, this was my best experience at the Boys and Girls Club, what would it be?	2122.2736
1754	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2123.9464	Ah,	2124.9816
1756		2126.3711	it's very hard to choose one.	2128.0451
1757	DCB_int_01	2128.0264	Okay, I'll give you two.	2128.8331
1758	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2129.7412	Mm,	2130.5946
1760		2131.8489	it probably would be	2133.2664
1762		2136.3894	maybe just like, going on a field trip. Uh, we have a lot of field trips.	2139.8632
1764		2140.3295	And the field trips are my favorite part of being down at the Boys and Girls Club.	2143.7230
1766		2144.1613	Uh, one of my favorite field trips was	2146.3482
1768		2147.0103	um,	2147.7144
1770		2149.8209	the Macy's um, window	2152.1011
1772		2152.3575	unveiling.	2153.0709
1774		2153.2854	Um,	2153.9382
1776		2154.1189	it was this-	2154.7065
1778		2155.8302	this past December.	2157.0799
1780		2157.4995	It passed, and	2158.7026
1782		2159.0010	we went up to	2159.8905
1784		2160.7344	Macy's	2161.7370
1786		2162.0494	um,	2162.8141
1788		2163.6441	with our cameras.	2164.8052
1790		2165.2516	It was like a um-	2166.3101
1792		2168.5996	It was-	2169.1452
1794		2170.7061	It was like a three layer trip	2172.4966
1796		2173.1634	where	2173.7556
1798		2174.4364	from the morning uh- I think from like eight o'clock to maybe twelve,	2178.1935
1800		2178.7018	we were out	2179.4292
1802		2180.1706	um, making Thanksgiving baskets for families who didn't have 'em.	2184.3148
1804		2184.9816	And families came in to get they baskets and they turkeys and things like that.	2189.5559
1806		2190.2308	And l- we were- They in there playing basketballs,	2193.0193
1808		2193.4669	um,	2193.9379
1810		2194.7585	making t shirts,	2196.0537
1812		2196.3614	just a whole lot of different activities,	2198.2219
1814		2198.6929	along with um,	2199.7607
1816		2200.5953	having-	2201.0709
1818		2201.3216	just having fun.	2202.1982
1820		2202.8976	So that was the first part of the day. Then after we left	2205.9099
1822		2206.5487	from um-	2207.5174
1824		2208.3055	from doing that- Of course I was taking pictures,	2210.5157
1826		2210.8094	and I got a lot of good pictures from that event.	2212.7725
1828		2213.2423	We left and we went to um, Macy's downtown	2215.9095
1830		2216.5576	Washington DC and	2218.3622
1832		2220.2215	we seen different performances from uh, people like um-	2223.4762
1834		2223.8866	I remember um,	2224.7912
1836		2225.2097	Mali Music, he was there. He performed,	2227.2567
1838		2227.8395	and my first time ever seeing him perform. It was amazing.	2230.5254
1840		2231.0057	And I got a lot of um,	2232.1143
1842		2232.5852	different pictures of him on stage along with um-	2235.9099
1844		2236.5673	It's a famous	2237.4999
1846		2238.2495	um,	2238.8417
1848		2239.1728	ballerina. She came from the /ARC/,	2240.7162
1850		2241.4809	and she performed-	2242.4088
1852		2243.2190	Well she didn't perform, she um- she was inside Macy's	2246.5903
1854		2246.9680	uh,	2247.5788
1856		2247.9285	giving her autograph and taking pictures.	2250.3801
1858		2251.0702	So	2251.5271
1860		2253.2944	after that event,	2254.1896
1862		2254.6186	we um,	2255.4626
1864		2255.8532	kept it moving and	2256.9956
1866		2257.2520	that event was uh,	2258.5063
1868		2258.6695	pretty cool to me because my high school band /RD-SCHOOL-4/ um,	2261.6631
1870		2262.5479	the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ um, majestic- majestic	2264.9726
1872		2265.3363	marching knights were there,	2266.6046
1874		2266.9963	and I got pictures of um, my high school band	2269.4805
1875	DCB_int_01	2269.5318	Hm.	2269.7789
1876	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2269.8675	while I was at the event.	2270.8514
1878		2271.6767	So- and I heard them perform which is amazing cause they're so good	2275.0189
1880		2275.7649	um, coming out of Ward Eight	2277.0519
1882		2277.2151	um, Southeast DC.	2278.7865
1884		2279.7412	So after that,	2280.5946
1886		2281.6484	we went to um,	2282.7022
1888		2283.3643	Maryland University,	2284.6046
1890		2284.8471	and it was for um-	2286.2635
1892		2287.0422	I think it was for like-	2288.3991
1894		2289.9891	We went to like this	2291.3041
1896		2291.9790	screening of this um-	2293.6484
1898		2294.0167	It was a video	2294.9378
1899		2294.9378	0	2295.5744
1900		2295.5744	about- It was based on, just music.	2297.8266
1902		2298.2847	Uh, where did music come from?	2300.0041
1904		2300.5455	And it went all the way back to just like, um,	2303.3261
1906		2304.4165	Africa	2305.0835
1908		2305.8544	and beating on congos and things of that nature.	2308.2062
1910		2308.6859	And they had like just	2309.9592
1912		2310.6479	a lot of people	2311.7610
1914		2312.8394	just like dancing	2314.2341
1916		2314.5492	and playing the congos	2316.1820
1918		2316.8187	And it was a um, a video premier.	2319.7065
1920		2319.9317	It was like a screening,	2320.8975
1922		2321.5212	and I just got to	2322.4221
1924		2323.6478	see just like,	2324.5660
1926		2325.0847	different culture,	2326.1891
1928		2327.1636	and just like,	2327.9432
1930		2328.4370	like face to face,	2329.5501
1932		2329.9919	what people who just like, had dreadlocks.	2332.2386
1934		2332.7367	And	2333.2911
1936		2334.2093	I mean,	2334.8590
1938		2335.8032	they wore just like-	2336.7030
1940		2336.8849	the- they were so natural,	2338.2622
1942		2338.6043	and they did like uh, natural dances	2341.1814
1943	DCB_int_01	2338.6043	Mm-hm.	2338.9891
1944	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2341.5961	and things like that. So, it was a learning experience and throughout this whole day, I got like,	2346.2780
1946		2347.0533	maybe	2347.7506
1948		2348.1394	eight hundred pictures,	2349.2135
1950		2350.7857	throughout the whole day,	2351.6909
1952		2352.1457	which was uh,	2353.1591
1954		2353.7558	really good for me cause I took 'em to school of f- course. I took 'em back to my photography teacher in school.	2358.7712
1956		2359.1686	And	2359.6364
1958		2360.1604	he said that they were amazing,	2361.8539
1960		2362.2914	and it was building my portfolio,	2364.0455
1962		2364.4559	and again it's expanding on my art	2366.4915
1964		2367.2841	and just giving me a love for um-	2369.5709
1966		2370.2412	a deeper love for photography.	2371.6878
1968		2372.2422	So that was like my favorite um,	2373.8014
1970		2374.6243	m- one of my favorite memories of just being down at the Boys and Girls Club.	2377.9062
1972		2378.7031	And	2379.3615
1974		2380.2753	another one	2381.1459
1976		2382.3532	uh-	2382.9769
1978		2384.2719	I think it had to be-	2385.5886
1980		2386.7136	It was a laser tagging uh,	2388.3031
1982		2389.3036	field trip	2390.1482
1984		2390.4254	that we went on.	2391.2700
1986		2391.7680	Over night laser tagging.	2393.1183
1988		2393.5904	It was crazy fun.	2394.8161
1990		2395.8859	We uh,	2396.6871
1992		2397.0325	went around about-	2398.1207
1994		2398.6827	I think it was about	2399.4580
1996		2400.2549	nine o'clock at night?	2401.4200
1998		2402.1043	And we got back	2403.1871
2000		2403.8227	around seven, eight o'clock that morning.	2405.8453
2002		2406.5773	But	2406.9151
2004		2408.4483	we went into the uh, laser tagging facility,	2411.4791
2006		2412.0768	and it was like this big laser tagging arena	2414.9700
2008		2415.6142	along with like uh,	2416.9136
2010		2417.6975	this course in um, I think it was	2419.6812
2012		2419.8154	Virginia.	2420.5127
2014		2421.1397	They had Tactical,	2422.1532
2016		2422.6902	which is like,	2423.3139
2018		2423.5305	it's like a Call of Duty type of laser tagging where you use like, more l- realistic guns,	2428.1291
2020		2428.5102	and it- th- th- they look realistic. And	2430.7321
2022		2431.2951	you-	2431.5507
2024		2431.9784	you do like, a mission.	2433.0482
2026		2433.2691	It's just not- just like, shooting lasers at each other.	2436.1926
2028		2436.5813	You just like-	2437.1790
2030		2438.1275	It's like a um, a assignment that you got to uh, achieve	2441.5231
2032		2442.0818	throughout the um, time period of a game.	2443.9432
2034		2444.6838	And then along with	2445.4677
2036		2445.7622	it being those two things there, it was um,	2448.3696
2038		2449.4210	like miniature golf,	2450.6857
2040		2451.4306	which was crazy, and then they had a um- [a- a-]	2453.8257
2041	DCB_int_01	2453.2800	[At night?]	2453.8517
2042	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2454.1668	Yeah.	2454.6259
2044		2455.1327	They had a miniature golf	2456.9257
2046		2457.0860	um, section	2458.1471
2048		2458.7697	in there. It was like, made out of like, wood	2461.6543
2050		2462.2996	and like, fake grass.	2463.7246
2052		2464.3212	It was like putt putt. It was real fun though.	2466.2485
2054		2466.9632	And um,	2468.2105
2056		2469.0594	they had beverages, and like, we brought lot of things to snack on.	2472.6446
2058		2474.0825	And	2474.9530
2060		2475.9958	it was one other thing that was there, that we did. Oh, um, they had a Xbox.	2480.3269
2062		2480.8640	And it was like a projector screen	2482.4741
2064		2482.8033	from like,	2483.2494
2066		2483.8860	uh,	2484.4318
2068		2484.8302	the top of this uh,	2486.3028
2070		2486.9092	platform	2487.8523
2072		2488.7012	that	2489.0433
2074		2489.7017	had the um,	2490.7152
2076		2491.0530	laser tagging inside of it.	2492.4206
2078		2492.8753	So you can sit on,	2494.0014
2080		2494.5471	like, it's kind of like this patio,	2496.1453
2082		2497.1112	if you will, and play the game	2498.6648
2084		2498.8209	from this uh, projector screen that's on the other w- side of the wall	2502.2598
2086		2502.6583	going like um,	2503.6718
2088		2504.9267	like uh, over top of the Tactical course.	2506.9624
2090		2507.2222	And we can play the uh, Call of Duty or NBA um,	2510.8506
2092		2512.1240	NBA uh, basketball game.	2513.9084
2094		2514.6826	So, between those f-	2516.5104
2096		2516.6576	four different activities- I mean, you can only imagine. Like, we had a blast that whole night.	2520.9920
2098		2521.4684	[And I thought-]	2522.3520
2099	DCB_int_01	2521.4771	[You stayed up all night?]	2522.4949
2100	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2522.5209	Yeah, I tried to, <laugh> until I- I- I eventually-	2525.9815
2102		2526.5911	Well I stayed up the whole night,	2527.8645
2104		2528.1763	but I fell asleep on the bus ride.	2529.9174
2106		2530.1643	We um-	2530.7577
2108		2531.1778	we left around six, seven o'clock, and we stopped at McDonald's before we uh,	2535.1873
2110		2536.0362	went home.	2536.7422
2113		2536.9709	And after eating man,	2538.7161
2114	DCB_int_01	2538.8287	<laugh>	2539.0843
2115	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2539.0713	I went-	2539.5174
2116		2539.9115	I went straight to sleep. And we still have the pictures of it.	2542.6878
2118		2543.4880	And	2543.8605
2120		2544.1896	[just li-]	2544.6011
2121	DCB_int_01	2544.2069	[I think I saw] a couple of those pictures. [Do you think the] club changed your life or saved your life?	2547.9404
2122	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2545.6189	[Yeah.]	2546.1473
2123		2548.1515	Yes,	2548.5673
2125		2548.8662	most definitely.	2549.6068
2127		2550.1222	Uh, I think the club saved my life	2551.8806
2129		2552.3614	because um,	2553.3576
2131		2554.8637	it's just like a lot o- j- It's	2555.9682
2133		2556.2887	like,	2556.5225
2135		2556.7304	just a lot of deaths in my neighborhood.	2559.2901
2137		2560.4022	Um, just my environment,	2562.1086
2139		2562.4508	just b-	2562.7973
2141		2563.1698	It- It's just from being at the wrong place at the wrong time.	2565.7414
2143		2566.5816	So the club just kept me out of the- out of the way	2569.0114
2145		2569.5788	of things. I mean I never had intent	2571.6263
2147		2571.7779	to just be in the streets,	2573.1336
2149		2573.8309	but I mean	2574.7188
2151		2575.0349	a lot of people who-	2576.1091
2153		2576.3895	who pass away ever- like,	2577.7365
2155		2578.3688	everyday- day to day, they-	2579.6682
2157		2580.1143	They don't have just like,	2581.3183
2159		2581.9626	no intent on just being somewhere	2584.2278
2161		2584.6999	d-	2584.9034
2163		2585.2239	doing something they had no business.	2587.0517
2165		2587.3581	They could just be walking around r-	2589.0559
2167		2589.3028	I mean, doing something	2590.4852
2169		2591.4467	uh, wrong place wrong time. And	2593.5029
2171		2593.6848	get killed.	2594.3129
2173		2594.4688	So,	2594.9279
2175		2595.9327	uh, I think the club just kept me	2598.0420
2177		2598.6906	out of the way.	2599.5655
2179		2601.3369	So.	2601.8220
2180	DCB_int_01	2603.3888	Do you- Two things.	2604.8137
2182		2605.2555	So who was this musician you were telling me about? I didn't know then- I don't know that musician.	2608.9413
2184		2609.2185	When you were saying that	2610.1268
2186		2610.5297	the first event when you all went- the three-	2612.3965
2188		2612.6866	the- the- the long day,	2614.1289
2190		2614.5534	and then you got to see some musician perform, who was it?	2616.7265
2191	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2616.1505	[A- u- o- Mali Music.	2617.5668
2192	DCB_int_01	2617.8223	Who is Mali Music?	2618.7838
2193	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2619.0004	Um, Mali Music is uh-	2621.7019
2195		2622.1697	I'm not sure where he's from.	2623.9584
2197		2624.3959	I think he's from the DMV though.	2626.1890
2199		2626.8246	But	2627.2230
2201		2627.7211	he has just like,	2628.7260
2203		2628.9555	uh,	2629.5532
2205		2629.7351	he's a	2630.1379
2207		2630.3025	different artist to me.	2631.9180
2209		2632.7139	Cause he has like this smooth type of rhythm,	2635.3862
2211		2636.0358	and he's like a um,	2637.7380
2213		2638.5858	R and B singer, if you will.	2640.1883
2215		2640.8120	And	2641.3880
2217		2641.8645	I heard his music	2642.9559
2219		2643.7951	that one time,	2644.9602
2221		2645.3846	and like, when I hear him on the radio station now,	2647.9746
2223		2648.3688	it just always rings a bell to me.	2649.9745
2225		2650.3903	And I still have um, amazing pictures of him being on stage and singing and stuff.	2654.5179
2227		2654.8547	And we actually took pictures inside with him, too, uh, as a group.	2658.1117
2229		2658.9303	So,	2659.4543
2231		2660.0033	I think he just like, um, a R and B singer.	2662.2208
2232	DCB_int_01	2662.4504	Do you listen to go go?	2663.3036
2233	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2663.8531	Uh,	2664.4763
2235		2664.6019	yeah my f-	2665.5028
2237		2665.6457	I mean I had cousins	2666.8108
2239		2666.9407	and things of that nature, and other mentors.	2669.4961
2241		2670.0375	Um, skateboarding-	2671.2329
2243		2671.7255	I used to skateboard- Well I still skateboard a lot.	2673.7309
2245		2674.0297	Like, growing up I used to skateboard a lot,	2675.3637
2247		2675.7838	and it's the skateboarder coming from the Southeast Washington Dc, uh-	2679.2000
2249		2679.5465	His name is uh, Darren Harper,	2681.2573
2251		2681.9059	and he's a amateur skateboarder.	2684.1538
2253		2684.6865	And he had like, a lot of different sponsorships and things of th- that nature,	2688.4838
2255		2689.0122	and the way he got 'em is just- just hard working.	2691.8145
2257		2692.1263	Like, he was just very hardworking.	2693.8187
2259		2694.2691	Uh, when he wasn't	2695.2480
2261		2695.8240	on his skateboard, I can imagine him just like, working out,	2698.7822
2263		2699.0280	just very aggressively.	2700.0761
2265		2700.5612	And the way he got sponsors is because he got like uh-	2703.3635
2267		2704.1160	I mean coming out of Southeast,	2705.5583
2269		2705.7618	skateboarding is not like, in our culture.	2707.8061
2271		2708.3475	We don't see it as often.	2709.6122
2273		2710.6463	So, he just had like, uh- he- he- he brung the element of like, a high /pop/	2715.7213
2275		2716.5139	to skateboarding, and that's what got him sponsored. He just	2719.1082
2277		2719.3291	always jumped high. Everything he did on the skateboard was very high,	2723.0788
2279		2723.5856	and in that way, he was very athletic.	2725.4696
2281		2726.0283	So um,	2726.9032
2283		2728.6129	I met with him,	2729.5008
2285		2729.9729	through like, one of my friends skateboarding. That was like his cousin.	2733.0210
2287		2733.6013	So me and my- m- me and my friend like, this was like uh-	2736.7501
2289		2737.2828	He went to uh, middle school with me,	2739.0315
2291		2739.7765	and I actually taught him how to skateboard	2741.8554
2293		2742.3578	cause I was the first person in my neighborhood to uh-	2744.7952
2295		2745.4015	Well when I went up the street	2746.4064
2297		2746.8698	to uh, Henson Ridge, I was the first person	2749.2941
2299		2749.6320	to skateboard.	2750.4549
2301		2750.8014	Because they never skateboarded. They uh, rode bikes and stuff.	2753.8375
2303		2754.2132	So I brung skateboarding up there, and I thought wow, I had the whole-	2757.1108
2305		2757.4616	like our whole neighborhood skating up there. It was about six of us.	2760.5584
2307		2761.3109	And	2761.7917
2309		2762.0948	some played basketball and stuff like that, but they were still	2764.7065
2311		2765.4634	skateboarding because it was cool to us. And	2768.3739
2313		2769.1189	it kept us out of trouble and stuff like that.	2771.5172
2315		2771.8334	But I met Darren Harper through	2773.3666
2317		2773.8214	one of my middle school friends that I taught how to skateboard, and he kept skateboarding with me and he progressed.	2778.5326
2319		2779.7756	And we started skating with Darren,	2781.0360
2321		2781.3695	and	2781.8113
2323		2783.4734	he uh,	2784.1967
2325		2784.6558	actually is a amateur skateboarder, and	2786.9339
2327		2787.3021	he does	2787.7828
2329		2788.1239	uh, /videotography/.	2789.3453
2331		2790.1162	And he has his own uh-	2791.8141
2333		2792.6110	He doesn't have his own go go band-	2794.3554
2335		2794.4896	I don't think so, but he's a part of a go go band and he plays the congos very well.	2798.2101
2337		2798.7558	And	2799.2236
2339		2799.6339	my god- my um- one of my- my godbrother	2802.2456
2341		2802.8866	that uh, lives in Waldorf,	2804.6147
2343		2805.2980	um,	2805.8957
2345		2807.5155	he had his uh, h-	2808.6590
2347		2808.8972	he formed his own go go band	2810.3524
2349		2810.5333	growing up	2811.1526
2351		2811.4471	uh,	2812.0188
2353		2812.7638	in	2813.3528
2355		2813.9808	uh, my godmother's house in Waldorf.	2816.5178
2357		2817.1675	She set up	2817.9471
2359		2819.0645	uh-	2819.6449
2361		2820.1603	In the garage, she allowed him to set up his own like, drum set that he	2823.7367
2363		2824.1352	worked and saved his money for.	2825.9759
2365		2826.4903	And his friends used to come over,	2828.1188
2367		2828.6342	and she was very supportive of them.	2830.0245
2369		2830.5615	And he's always just like-	2831.7743
2371		2832.6437	In the house, he had a keyboard.	2834.1640
2373		2834.7400	He used to play the keyboard, and then he got a drum set.	2837.0745
2375		2837.6202	So they formed a band,	2838.9705
2377		2839.3949	and I used to always listen to them.	2840.8199
2379		2841.1923	And I was into it, and	2842.8771
2381		2844.6562	just things like that-	2845.7216
2383		2846.3713	that kept me into like,	2847.3112
2385		2847.6403	go go and stuff. I used to always like to dance growing up.	2849.9997
2387		2850.3029	So,	2850.7014
2389		2851.3510	of course like uh, from here- like,	2853.4170
2391		2854.3958	down here a lot of people beat they feet and stuff like that, so	2857.2923
2393		2857.6907	I picked up on that, just like uh-	2859.7307
2394	DCB_int_01	2860.0458	They beat they feet? What does that [mean?]	2861.4404
2395	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2861.1459	[Yeah], that's just like a form of dance,	2863.3245
2396		2863.7229	and it's just like a lot of arm movement and	2865.8235
2398		2865.9697	foot motion.	2866.7450
2399	DCB_int_01	2867.9577	Mm.	2868.2089
2400	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2868.5511	Yeah, it's just like a uh,	2870.0367
2402		2870.5131	a-	2870.6777
2404		2870.9808	a lot of uh, different-	2872.3484
2406		2873.1583	different places have they own type of style of dance.	2875.7873
2408		2876.2291	So that's what D- DC had. They called it uh,	2878.9090
2410		2879.5197	beat your feet, and they got different groups that uh,	2882.2267
2412		2882.4898	perform and do- and do it.	2884.1919
2414		2884.9109	So.	2885.3700
2415	DCB_int_01	2885.8161	Have you ever been to a like a-	2887.2497
2417		2887.5399	a go go or a party out- outside of like your, godbrother's	2890.9258
2419		2891.6707	band playing, but like	2892.7708
2421		2894.0778	in the area?	2894.7664
2422	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	2895.2818	Yeah, uh, being down there they had like go gos.	2898.5302
2424		2899.1701	And I mean, we was-	2900.4435
2426		2900.9632	M- my uh, godbrother is about four years older than me, so	2904.4974
2428		2905.0464	he used to go out with his friends and stuff. So I met neighborhood-	2908.3467
2430		2908.5546	in the neighborhood of Waldorf, Charles County.	2911.0741
2432		2911.6676	Uh, my aunt lived in /Banister/ Circle.	2913.5603
2434		2913.9458	So I met a lot friends	2915.2798
2436		2915.5743	uh, riding my bike and stuff like that.	2917.5266
2438		2918.0896	So after awhile,	2919.0858
2440		2919.6965	um,	2920.3461
2442		2920.7013	they-	2921.0391
2444		2921.5188	M- my friends of course listened to go go music so they went to go gos and stuff like that, so I used to go and um-	2926.4823
2446		2927.4644	Like go out some nights, whenever my friend uh, mom used to let him go.	2931.2541
2448		2931.7349	I used to always uh,	2932.9779
2450		2933.4186	go out with him,	2934.2589
2452		2934.6183	as long as I checked in.	2935.8787
2454		2936.7493	Uh, that's something that I learned from my godmother, too. I got in the habit of uh,	2940.5119
2456		2940.9104	just contacting my folks,	2942.5216
2458		2942.8248	and letting 'em know where I'm /there/- w- w- w-	2944.7857
2460		2945.3487	where I am.	2945.8945
2462		2946.3925	/Cause that's/ um,	2947.3757
2464		2947.9691	just	2948.1813
2466		2948.3675	periodically throughout the day,	2949.9777
2468		2950.2592	like um,	2950.9132
2470		2951.1601	most of the time,	2952.0523
2472		2952.9878	uh-	2953.4945
2474		2954.5643	Every uh,	2955.4999
2476		2956.4300	hour or two that pass,	2957.6687
2478		2957.8982	I let them know- call 'em, let them know where I'm at,	2960.0421
2480		2960.4276	checking in.	2961.0296
2482		2961.5873	Uh,	2962.1157
2484		2962.2933	I used to,	2963.0642
2486		2963.7962	in Waldorf,	2964.8140
2488		2965.2904	every hour have to come and check in	2967.0391
2490		2967.2210	to my godmother's house,	2968.4077
2492		2968.8365	and let her know what I'm outside doing.	2970.6859
2494		2971.0064	That I'm al- That I'm okay,	2972.5992
2496		2972.9847	and then I can c-	2973.5477
2498		2973.7383	come back outside. And sh- I make sure I get me some water or something to eat	2976.9303
2500		2977.3418	and then go back outside.	2978.4452
2502		2978.9649	And then as I got older, she let me uh, use my cell phone and call her	2982.3302
2504		2982.7882	and just let her know. So, that's something that I brung back to DC with me,	2986.3138
2506		2986.9981	uh, with me just	2987.9423
2508		2988.4393	riding my skateboard,	2989.9119
2510		2990.6482	not really doing anything uh, to get myself in trouble. I still checked in	2994.7877
2512		2995.1991	and things like that.	2996.1476
2513	DCB_int_01	2996.6544	Do you ever feel like it was a time when you talk-	2998.5298
2515		2998.8676	since you talk about trouble, do you ever feel like there was a time where you	3001.1620
2517		3001.3699	were afraid for like, your life? Or you felt like you were really unsafe?	3004.9777
2519		3005.6523	Like I know you talked about a lot of the neighborhood beefs and stuff like that. Do you ever feel like there was a time where you were like, oh my God.	3010.5801
2521		3010.9699	This is-	3011.5070
2523		3011.6326	Something's gonna happen to me.	3012.7067
2524	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3013.7332	Uh,	3014.5431
2526		3016.1792	it was a number of times .	3017.5738
2528		3018.1239	Like just uh,	3019.4059
2530		3019.8606	in my neighborhood, they had beef	3021.7653
2532		3021.9948	with the neighborhood as m-	3023.3158
2534		3024.2817	uh,	3024.8880
2536		3025.7153	probably like exactly	3026.8890
2538		3027.1391	two minutes away	3028.2955
2540		3028.6940	or like, a block or two away from us.	3030.5824
2542		3030.9765	So,	3031.4659
2544		3032.0376	of course that neighborhood and my neighborhood used to always fight,	3034.7479
2546		3035.5145	and just like,	3036.3894
2548		3036.9654	get into altercations	3038.3600
2550		3038.8137	which led to like	3039.8619
2552		3040.1347	one of the well known um,	3042.0361
2554		3043.1752	neighborhood males to uh, get shot and killed.	3045.9807
2556		3047.1068	So like,	3047.6352
2558		3048.2459	just like,	3048.8132
2560		3049.1294	I fear for my life- Well, just- just coming down	3052.2598
2562		3052.8618	the- the hill at night	3054.0528
2564		3054.2391	on my skateboard	3055.1876
2566		3055.7842	uh, after coming from maybe	3057.1702
2568		3058.1793	uh, one of the local	3059.7429
2570		3060.2626	neighborhood uh, skateboard spots that we used to um, skate.	3063.7568
2572		3064.3242	Or coming from downtown	3065.8790
2574		3066.3197	or Freedom Plaza	3067.5888
2576		3068.4333	or	3069.0613
2578		3069.6417	Shaw Skate Park	3070.6725
2580		3072.5555	uh downtown.	3073.4824
2582		3073.9328	After coming down on my skateboard, and of course my skateboard makes a loud noise, uh, it being	3078.2671
2584		3078.5314	night time or at night.	3079.7051
2586		3080.2249	I used to always just be	3081.3120
2588		3081.9357	kind of just like,	3082.6676
2590		3082.8582	paranoid,	3083.6724
2592		3084.1478	looking behind me	3085.2782
2594		3085.7027	and watching out just for people and cars and things like that because	3089.2629
2596		3089.6343	I w-	3089.9201
2598		3090.5048	I would never-	3091.2325
2600		3091.7998	I- I never knew if something would just happen to me just coming down the hill	3095.0385
2602		3095.4802	because I just know that like, it's- it's crazy people out there just in my neighborhood.	3099.1011
2604		3099.5645	And	3099.9749
2606		3100.4990	when it's the other neighborhood, it's trying to attack us,	3103.0933
2608		3103.5178	I mean they don't care.	3104.7261
2610		3104.9514	If they see somebody on a skateboard, they probably think it's funny to uh, shoot at 'em	3108.5114
2612		3108.9479	or knock 'em off their skateboard,	3110.5158
2614		3111.2553	things like that. And especially if you um,	3113.5422
2616		3113.7501	beefing with the neighborhood, you already assume that that person on the skateboard	3117.1240
2618		3117.4391	is from that neighborhood.	3118.5392
2619	DCB_int_01	3119.1673	Mm.	3119.3881
2620	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3119.5137	So,	3119.9295
2622		3120.3930	I fear for my life in that-	3121.9652
2624		3122.2500	in that type of way,	3123.2245
2626		3123.7052	and would like,	3124.3809
2628		3125.7408	uh- I know me and my friends, we always had each other's backs.	3128.3222
2630		3128.8972	So if anything would happen,	3130.3178
2632		3131.3139	we would just always alert each other	3133.2413
2634		3133.6517	walking around just always watch- watch my back.	3135.7306
2636		3136.2677	I didn't get into	3137.2292
2638		3137.4847	too many fist fights growing up,	3138.9833
2640		3139.7445	uh, just because it's like, when I see people behind me,	3142.6897
2642		3143.3090	or walking behind me, I /used/ to always cross the street.	3145.7594
2644		3146.4567	Uh, first things I did when I /bend/ the corner and they couldn't see me	3149.5058
2646		3149.8599	anymore is just like, run,	3151.4408
2648		3151.6487	just get um,	3152.4413
2650		3153.2642	a block or two ahead.	3154.4899
2652		3154.8494	Just so that I wouldn't be in their area anymore,	3157.0269
2654		3158.0620	and just things like that.	3159.4306
2656		3160.2276	Uh,	3160.6390
2658		3161.1144	other than that,	3161.7641
2660		3163.9426	uh,	3164.7439
2662		3165.7314	I don't think anything like	3166.9311
2664		3167.7356	bad	3168.3420
2666		3169.8665	really went to my- went through my mind. I was always positive um,	3174.0753
2668		3174.4695	always humble	3175.4829
2670		3176.4401	growing up.	3177.1114
2672		3177.8380	I didn't think I had to like,	3179.1503
2674		3179.5228	no crazy thing like carry a gun around on me	3181.6624
2676		3182.1475	or anything to protect myself.	3183.8453
2678		3184.3640	I didn't think about it	3185.4771
2680		3186.2220	that way,	3186.8977
2682		3187.2355	but it's a lot of uh, times I think back, and I could have uh, like, I could have ha- um,	3191.9250
2684		3193.3846	been dead	3194.1209
2686		3194.3711	just being wrong place wrong [time.]	3196.3287
2687	DCB_int_01	3195.9866	[Mm.]	3196.2724
2688	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3197.2599	I see it on the news all the time, just someone being-	3199.7417
2690		3200.4769	just someone being like just,	3201.9495
2692		3202.8417	somewhere where I walk past every day, and	3205.2715
2694		3205.9850	there they are, shot and killed.	3207.5745
2696		3208.3022	Or just situations that happen	3210.2988
2698		3211.1856	for nonsense, like over nonsense,	3213.2689
2700		3213.7020	that could have just easily happened to me,	3215.4821
2702		3215.9499	and I think about it.	3216.8334
2704		3217.9325	But I start- I- I- I just try to	3219.6259
2706		3220.2236	stay focused and stay humble.	3222.2420
2707	DCB_int_01	3222.9772	So now, you're eighteen. You just graduated from high school. What's next?	3226.1302
2708	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3226.4681	Uh, college. I will be attending um,	3228.3694
2710		3229.8886	Johnson C Smith	3230.9974
2712		3231.7553	um,	3232.3010
2714		3232.7601	within like, the next two weeks.	3234.3138
2716		3235.3837	And	3236.0854
2718		3236.5228	I want to major in	3237.9781
2720		3238.3289	Business Management,	3239.4896
2722		3239.9823	[and get like] a minor in Photography.	3241.6541
2723	DCB_int_01	3240.0040	[/Hm./]	3240.3331
2724	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3241.9790	But,	3242.2648
2726		3242.5853	most likely, I'm'a just get there and be undecided because I'm not	3245.6074
2728		3246.1921	very sure. It's not um,	3248.5006
2730		3249.5011	anything like- it- it- it's nothing-	3251.4187
2732		3251.5443	none of my ideas are uh,	3252.8047
2734		3253.2551	stone at this point.	3254.7147
2736		3255.3860	I'm still thinking about it.	3256.6020
2738		3257.2560	So	3257.6718
2740		3258.3431	um,	3258.8066
2742		3259.3479	I've been thinking about- as far as photography, I want to be a self taught photographer. I don't really want to	3263.7040
2744		3264.2194	waste any money	3265.1809
2746		3265.4754	on class	3266.4802
2748		3266.6795	or learning it in school	3268.0860
2750		3268.4455	when I can be um,	3269.5673
2752		3270.3599	just gaining some other skills	3272.5904
2754		3273.0961	while I'm in um, college.	3274.4647
2756		3274.9065	I want to be like, a self taught photographer,	3277.1024
2758		3277.7553	and then, other than that, I want to just uh,	3280.1981
2760		3280.6832	maybe do Business Management or Entrepreneurship	3283.5233
2762		3284.0430	or something like that.	3284.9569
2764		3285.4203	But, I think when I get there, I'm'a just	3287.4560
2766		3287.6595	have to	3288.0537
2768		3288.9892	figure things out	3289.9420
2770		3290.3611	as they come	3291.0584
2772		3291.7557	[up there.]	3292.2755
2773	DCB_int_01	3291.7990	[Are you the first] one in your family to go to college.	3293.8390
2774	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3293.8996	Yes, I'll be the first one in my family to attend um,	3296.8134
2776		3297.4717	college. My um,	3298.6585
2778		3300.0314	my grandfather went to college um,	3302.3215
2780		3302.7070	but didn't stay.	3303.5126
2782		3304.5867	So I think he went there for like- He was in college	3306.8508
2784		3307.4485	for like um,	3308.2628
2786		3309.7917	maybe like a trade school,	3311.6151
2788		3313.4504	or	3313.9875
2790		3316.4692	a community college	3317.7989
2792		3318.2786	for like a month	3319.3440
2794		3319.6645	before he stopped going. And he uh,	3321.4966
2796		3322.2632	got into the Service.	3323.3373
2797	DCB_int_01	3323.7247	[Mm-m.]	3323.9889
2798	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3323.8430	[Other] than that, uh,	3325.0211
2799		3325.2853	none of my- especially not none of my um,	3327.0913
2801		3327.8017	immediate family members, they haven't-	3329.9142
2803		3330.3386	n- none have um,	3331.4474
2805		3332.9243	went to the um, next level and like, furthered their education from um, high school.	3337.7741
2806	DCB_int_01	3338.7529	What's your favorite book or movie	3340.2851
2808		3340.9434	and why?	3341.3852
2809	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3342.6066	Uh,	3343.4901
2811		3344.2914	my favorite movie	3345.7758
2813		3346.7634	I would say,	3347.8462
2815		3348.9593	is	3349.8732
2817		3351.2451	Will Smith, the uh, Pursuit of Happiness.	3353.9174
2819		3354.4328	I just like that.	3355.3596
2821		3355.6195	It's just like,	3356.3471
2823		3357.9226	struggles and Will Smith in that movie went through to like trials and	3361.0107
2825		3361.4828	/contribulations/	3362.4746
2827		3362.9413	with just like	3363.6993
2829		3364.2796	getting his-	3365.0462
2831		3365.7609	his son to daycare every morning.	3367.4717
2833		3368.0900	And over top of that, he had a thousand more things to do	3371.1304
2835		3372.0443	where it was uh,	3373.5125
2837		3374.3604	getting to work on time in the morning,	3376.2314
2839		3376.9244	um,	3377.6217
2841		3379.1669	getting what he had at the time, uh, which was like a	3383.0692
2843		3383.5283	um-	3384.0654
2845		3384.6447	I'm not sure if it was a computer	3386.2082
2847		3386.7583	or something that /bass/-	3387.8627
2849		3388.4907	uh, getting that to work every morning,	3390.3606
2851		3390.6899	and getting his son dressed.	3391.9849
2853		3392.6519	And just all these	3393.7260
2855		3394.0075	different elements	3395.1293
2857		3395.7909	just like,	3396.2716
2859		3397.2158	came together within-	3398.5325
2861		3399.9054	within like,	3400.4468
2863		3402.3255	four house, five hours.	3403.9713
2865		3404.5473	And he had to blend all these things to make the- m- make sure that everything runs smoothly-	3409.0030
2867		3409.4968	smoothly um, throughout every day, in order to make it.	3412.2037
2869		3413.0559	So like,	3413.4803
2871		3413.7965	that inspired me,	3414.7017
2873		3415.3687	and just like just,	3416.1050
2875		3416.5121	seeing this movie and watching this movie	3418.2912
2877		3419.1271	uh,	3419.6771
2879		3421.4789	you see the will power that uh, Will Smith had.	3424.0332
2881		3424.7175	And like just,	3425.6010
2883		3426.8744	taking his son through a orphanage.	3428.7541
2885		3429.3767	And at the same time,	3430.7107
2887		3431.2174	studying so he can get	3432.8156
2889		3433.3700	a promotion at work.	3434.7419
2891		3435.0884	Uh,	3435.6038
2893		3437.0374	just like sitting in the hallway	3438.6746
2895		3439.4499	or bathroom,	3440.5446
2897		3441.0600	trying to uh, read a book	3442.4199
2899		3443.3468	when he didn't really have	3444.7328
2901		3445.2308	uh,	3445.7506
2903		3446.5811	the source of light,	3447.5469
2905		3448.1966	just things like that.	3449.1928
2907		3449.4526	Uh,	3450.0503
2909		3450.1499	I just like the drive that he had in that movie.	3452.2105
2911		3452.7432	And people do this on a regular basis.	3454.8092
2913		3455.0171	I mean,	3455.5152
2915		3456.0089	life is not like silver spoon for everybody,	3458.1864
2917		3458.5285	and people go through struggles,	3459.8452
2919		3460.1960	but that what makes people	3461.4910
2921		3462.1310	make it	3462.5381
2923		3463.2354	in life, like it-	3464.0583
2925		3464.4568	[without these struggles-]	3465.4226
2926	DCB_int_01	3464.5651	[Do you feel like you have] that same drive?	3466.2412
2927	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3466.6180	Yes.	3467.1291
2929		3467.4236	I think I have that same drive,	3468.8172
2931		3469.2763	and	3469.5188
2933		3469.7614	sometimes I um-	3470.8788
2935		3471.3639	Well my generation has ran off with just like,	3473.4168
2937		3475.1569	cell phone and electronics nowadays so it's-	3477.5087
2939		3477.9721	it's kind of easily for m- it's- it's easier for me to get distracted,	3481.2800
2941		3481.8691	but I just got to learn to just stay focused.	3484.1992
2943		3484.6746	But, as long as I'm focused, yeah I have that same drive.	3486.9701
2944	DCB_int_01	3488.2218	So,	3488.5553
2946		3488.8714	if you could leave a piece of advice	3491.0143
2948		3493.0196	to your generation	3494.1154
2950		3494.8517	or	3495.2112
2952		3495.5696	you know, to the other kids at the Boys and Girls Club or-	3498.2246
2954		3498.9825	or the people in DC,	3500.2992
2956		3501.0820	what would that piece of advice be?	3502.5286
2957	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3503.5291	Uh,	3504.3347
2959		3505.5085	that piece of advice	3507.1370
2961		3508.5218	would be um,	3510.0594
2963		3512.8476	hard times doesn't last.	3514.7446
2965		3515.8621	Um,	3516.6070
2967		3518.9837	but like,	3519.5511
2969		3519.8326	well tough times don't last but- but tough people do.	3522.4097
2971		3523.0420	In the sense that like um-	3524.4702
2973		3526.1767	If you going through school, I mean try your best	3528.7883
2975		3529.2117	for	3529.8267
2977		3530.6280	the certain amount of hours you're in school	3532.4298
2979		3532.7113	or the certain amount of years your in school	3534.7426
2981		3535.0360	because after awhile you're gonna look up and you're not in school anymore.	3537.6910
2982	DCB_int_01	3537.8093	Mm-hm.	3538.2082
2983	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3538.5226	But people are like-	3539.6833
2985		3540.0331	I mean people complain about our school systems on this side,	3542.9306
2987		3543.6496	and	3544.3772
2989		3544.9879	what they go through on this side, but it's a lot of people out there that's willing to help and support us.	3549.4912
2991		3550.1539	Um,	3550.7126
2993		3552.1451	and they just don't know it because	3553.8299
2995		3554.2544	they don't look up at the bright side	3556.0865
2997		3556.3810	or they just don't open they mouths.	3558.1124
2999		3558.6797	And	3559.2081
3001		3560.2996	something that's said often but is very true is that uh, closed mouth don't get fed.	3565.0064
3002	DCB_int_01	3564.9978	Mm-hm.	3565.4309
3003	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3565.4352	And I learned that the hard way, with just being quiet.	3567.7567
3005		3568.3447	And	3568.7345
3007		3569.6050	not talking most of the time because I got a attitude,	3572.0521
3009		3572.4376	but	3572.7061
3011		3573.2908	that really	3573.8842
3013		3574.9746	um, affects	3576.3346
3015		3576.6334	the opportunities y- t-	3577.7075
3017		3577.9154	the opportunities that you're gonna get	3579.6685
3019		3580.3918	in life. And I got a lot of opportunities	3582.7695
3021		3583.2720	just by- just being positive	3585.1387
3023		3585.7786	and	3586.3330
3025		3587.5760	going into school	3588.9360
3027		3589.8022	and just being passionate about what I did,	3592.0577
3028	DCB_int_01	3592.2439	Mm-hm.	3592.6424
3029	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3592.7507	and just doing a lot of different things.	3594.6737
3030	DCB_int_01	3595.1848	Have you	3595.9081
3032		3596.6649	um-	3597.2886
3034		3598.1678	One thing I think as a photographer you may have, but a lot of people	3601.8190
3036		3601.9522	come to DC because of the monuments and the museums,	3604.8064
3037	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3604.8714	[Yeah.]	3605.1659
3038	DCB_int_01	3605.0663	[and] people who live here, like never go.	3606.9027
3039	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3607.1355	Yeah.	3607.4257
3040	DCB_int_01	3607.5513	Have you been a tourist in your own town?	3609.5652
3041	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3609.8901	Yes. Uh, today I actually um,	3611.9387
3043		3612.3458	had a tour, my first time being in the White House,	3614.3024
3045		3614.5536	inside the White House.	3615.6494
3047		3616.1302	Um,	3616.6153
3049		3617.0311	it was my first time. It was amazing.	3618.6855
3051		3619.1652	Uh, day before yesterday	3620.4169
3053		3620.8024	I was in the um,	3621.7249
3055		3622.1710	Eisenhower Building	3623.1715
3057		3623.6079	which is like the west wing of the White House.	3625.5049
3059		3626.1200	Um,	3626.6700
3061		3626.9645	I never been in there.	3627.9953
3063		3628.4371	It was actually for um-	3629.6672
3065		3631.3162	We was discussing the initiative um,	3633.4255
3067		3633.9236	that Obama curated uh,	3635.5088
3069		3636.0318	My Brother's Keeper.	3636.8980
3071		3637.3918	And we had a round house discussion	3639.0333
3073		3639.5183	on	3640.0641
3075		3640.6434	just like,	3641.1414
3077		3641.5746	different um,	3642.6270
3079		3643.6838	My Brother's Keeper, um, communities	3645.8624
3081		3646.4503	and	3647.0437
3083		3647.4552	how they're um,	3648.4687
3085		3650.2617	just	3650.8681
3087		3651.0154	installing	3651.9498
3089		3652.1534	um,	3652.7771
3091		3653.3921	STEM	3654.0547
3093		3654.6091	and	3655.1722
3095		3655.6096	the /??/ mentorship that	3657.2684
3097		3658.5667	kids and young people like me will have	3660.9532
3099		3662.2612	growing up.	3662.8459
3101		3663.7414	So, I think it's a- it- it-	3665.3395
3103		3665.6990	it's a real big part	3667.1673
3105		3667.8733	of	3668.5186
3107		3669.2408	being from Southeast	3670.6874
3109		3671.0079	and learning who you are and learning what you come from.	3674.0311
3111		3674.7533	I mean, I think it's-	3675.6715
3113		3677.2567	it's kind of crazy not to take advantage of	3680.2571
3115		3680.8894	seeing things like the White House when you live,	3683.0853
3117		3683.6050	I mean,	3684.1638
3119		3684.9120	literally a train ride away from it	3686.9736
3121		3688.0087	cause in a sense it open your mind up.	3689.7715
3123		3690.2393	And a lot of people who struggle	3691.7888
3125		3692.5380	just on, just like,	3693.5645
3127		3693.8894	the other side of the bridge. And when people s-	3695.8557
3129		3696.0073	think of Washington DC, they always think of	3698.2411
3131		3698.9211	uh, the president house	3700.3980
3133		3700.7618	and	3701.3162
3135		3702.1987	the memorials and the capitol,	3704.3772
3137		3704.9749	and if you don't learn about	3706.4951
3139		3706.7550	that type of stuff,	3707.8670
3141		3708.6163	then how can you	3709.8853
3143		3710.6520	make it out of your environment?	3712.2025
3145		3713.1629	Because it's possibilities,	3714.5489
3147		3715.4281	but I think um,	3716.4676
3149		3718.3592	before actually	3719.5546
3151		3720.5594	today	3721.1182
3153		3721.4906	and yesterday, I never been	3722.9589
3155		3723.3270	to um-	3724.1889
3157		3726.1369	to the White House or the Eisenhower um,	3728.5407
3159		3729.2596	Building.	3729.9136
3161		3730.7745	And	3731.3592
3163		3732.2644	it was like, kind of life changing for me. It uh,	3735.1099
3165		3736.4342	opened my eyes to a lot of things that were going on.	3739.0545
3167		3739.3793	Uh, I'm not really into politics,	3741.2547
3169		3741.5742	but it's nothing wrong with being into politics,	3743.4696
3170	DCB_int_01	3743.3846	[Mm.]	3743.5751
3171	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3743.7960	and it's a possibility	3745.0087
3173		3745.4592	for everyone to be into- to pol- uh, to politics,	3748.0958
3175		3748.4639	ending up broadening your horizon if you actually pick up the newspaper,	3751.5607
3177		3751.9971	and over time	3753.1318
3179		3753.5996	of just me reading newspaper, I picked up on different type of things.	3756.9692
3181		3757.5496	So,	3758.0476
3183		3759.8657	I mean, it's- it's good. I know a lot of family members-	3762.4730
3185		3762.8671	I did a lot of stuff that my family members	3765.1737
3187		3765.7593	um,	3766.2227
3189		3767.0369	can't say that they did.	3768.2107
3190	DCB_int_01	3768.3579	Hm.	3768.6005
3191	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3768.8463	So,	3769.3011
3193		3769.5219	that's pretty crazy to me.	3770.7563
3195		3771.7741	But	3772.1466
3197		3774.2299	I think I- I had a role, and I had a expectation of teaching my family	3778.3694
3199		3778.8241	about things like that or my um, younger cousins and	3782.0324
3201		3782.4309	nephews and nieces, things like that,	3784.3409
3203		3784.7177	so that they can achieve more than me	3786.3279
3205		3786.6397	when they grow up.	3787.5103
3206	DCB_int_01	3788.6797	Do you uh, eat Mambo sauce?	3790.3428
3207	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3790.6200	Yes.	3791.0878
3208	DCB_int_01	3792.0006	How do you- Okay. So how do I order-	3793.9669
3210		3794.5083	W-	3794.6902
3212		3794.9111	Do you have a favorite place you get it from?	3796.4616
3213	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3797.7296	Uh,	3798.4356
3215		3800.6401	in high school, I used to always go to Hong Kong, and that's the carry out maybe like a block or two down from my high school.	3806.1136
3216	DCB_int_01	3806.3477	Mm-hm.	3806.7026
3217	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3806.7070	And that's where everybody eats.	3808.3517
3219		3808.5813	Uh,	3809.1227
3221		3809.8460	I mean, if you go to-	3810.8205
3223		3812.2584	if you go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/,	3812.9990
3225		3813.2968	/RD-SCHOOL-7/ High School and you participate in um,	3816.8483
3227		3818.1174	after school	3819.0269
3229		3819.2337	um, activities,	3820.6976
3231		3820.9705	most likely you	3821.8411
3233		3822.2915	have had uh, Hong Kong.	3823.7511
3235		3824.6033	And so chicken /rings/ and maybe like fried rice	3827.6567
3237		3828.2631	and mumbo sauce.	3829.2419
3238	DCB_int_01	3830.2283	So what is mumbo sauce?	3831.3501
3239	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3831.7182	Mumbo sauce is like,	3832.9873
3241		3833.2255	um-	3833.7755
3243		3834.8973	I think it's	3835.6639
3245		3835.8101	like a mixture	3837.2047
3247		3837.3866	of like	3837.8457
3249		3838.1272	barbecue sauce	3839.2837
3251		3839.8684	and hot sauce	3840.9295
3253		3841.9202	along with uh,	3843.1763
3255		3844.6445	maybe-	3845.6537
3257		3847.5237	maybe some di- it- it- it's a mixture of sauces,	3849.9664
3259		3850.2826	but it doesn't taste like uh,	3852.4785
3261		3853.0881	just ketchup or just hot sauce.	3855.1064
3263		3855.3663	And it's not j- too hot.	3856.8692
3265		3857.7257	And it's not like too tangy either.	3859.5274
3267		3859.9909	So it's like-	3860.4586
3269		3860.7921	I mean it's a perfect mixture of sauce,	3863.3302
3271		3863.7275	like different sauces to me in my opinion,	3865.7155
3273		3866.2439	and it goes great on chicken.	3867.6169
3274	DCB_int_01	3867.9287	[<laugh>] What's your favorite place to hang out in DC?	3871.3060
3275	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3868.1843	[So.]	3868.5741
3276		3872.3887	My favorite place to hang out in DC?	3874.0606
3278		3874.6745	It has to be	3875.8959
3280		3877.0393	um, Freedom Plaza.	3878.6678
3282		3879.1183	Freedom Plaza because I like- I- I- I love to skateboard,	3881.9108
3284		3882.2573	and [the skate] scene down there is crazy.	3884.1326
3285	DCB_int_01	3882.5344	[/Mm./]	3882.7900
3286	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3884.6437	I mean, even though we not supposed to skate um,	3887.0291
3288		3887.4146	not supposed to skateboard	3888.5363
3290		3888.7615	o- on government property,	3890.1562
3292		3890.8145	but it's a lot of marble ledges	3892.3207
3294		3892.8751	and	3893.4294
3296		3893.8062	just things and names,	3895.3568
3298		3895.8029	important names	3896.9203
3300		3897.2398	and things that happened through history and /carvings and neat/ stones.	3900.3582
3302		3900.8952	But	3901.2807
3304		3901.7398	it's a smooth surface for uh, skateboarders	3904.4760
3306		3905.2470	to	3905.6454
3308		3906.5420	learn tricks	3907.7634
3310		3908.0568	and just ride around	3909.5424
3312		3910.0188	um,	3910.5689
3314		3910.7767	park police	3911.5823
3316		3912.1714	every so often chase you.	3913.3798
3318		3914.0457	And if you get caught, you can get fined,	3915.7955
3319	DCB_int_01	3916.1030	Hm.	3916.3065
3320	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3916.3932	or maybe even have your skateboard take- taken away,	3919.2907
3322		3919.8353	but	3920.1732
3324		3920.5240	it's a great way to meet new friends,	3922.3864
3326		3922.9104	and if you're a photographer, get pictures,	3925.3780
3328		3926.4089	and	3926.8983
3330		3927.4960	it's always cool. It's like there's always a um,	3929.7309
3332		3930.8386	just a good	3931.4969
3334		3932.8699	uh,	3933.1644
3336		3933.7275	a good mood. Every- every- everyone down at Freedom Plaza is um,	3937.4122
3338		3938.8588	is in a good mood most of the times. It's a good vibe.	3941.3449
3340		3942.2230	And	3942.9506
3342		3943.3058	good place to chill	3944.3669
3344		3944.5662	as long as	3945.3588
3346		3945.6489	you find some shade, and	3947.0349
3348		3947.5319	[the CVS across the street where you can get something] to drink,	3949.8621
3349	DCB_int_01	3947.5752	[<laugh>]	3949.3207
3350	DCB_se1_ag1_m_02	3950.3212	cause if not you gonna be hot.	3951.5122
3351	DCB_int_01	3951.5642	You gonna be hot. You gonna burn up.	3952.7942