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1DCB_int_010.5514Alright. So,1.5357
3 2.0981your name is /RD-NAME-4/.4.9255 
4DCB_se1_ag2_f_015.9050That's me.6.6499
5DCB_int_017.5316Um,8.0218
7 8.4512what's your birthday?8.9757 
8DCB_se1_ag2_f_019.5267June twenty six.10.6440
10 12.0719[Nineteen] eighty seven.12.9802 
11DCB_int_0112.0833[/What year?/]12.4482
12 13.1094Nineteen eighty seven.14.2267
14 15.6090Um,16.3615 
16 16.5097what's your home town?17.2128 
17DCB_se1_ag2_f_0117.8018Washington, DC.18.5961
18DCB_int_0119.2497What neighborhood?19.9604
19DCB_se1_ag2_f_0120.4079I'm from Uptown.21.4301
20DCB_int_0121.7113Uptown.22.1104
22 22.3954What is Uptown?23.5545 
23DCB_se1_ag2_f_0125.4461It's-25.8299
25 26.4531W-26.7686 
27 27.0080[I-]27.3158 
28DCB_int_0127.0118[Like-]27.2512
29 27.4640Descri- Cause I- I keep people- hearing people say it, but I don't like, know [/inaudible/.]31.2367
30DCB_se1_ag2_f_0130.7313[So Uptown] is-32.2324
31 32.3768Do you know where33.6651
33 34.0603the Convention Center is?35.0902 
34DCB_int_0135.4009Mm-hm.35.7467
35DCB_se1_ag2_f_0136.0812Uptown is from the Convention Center up.38.2701
37 39.4292Up Georgia Avenue.40.2225 
38DCB_int_0140.8762Up Georgie Avenue.41.8072
39DCB_se1_ag2_f_0142.0162[And it stops-]42.8371
40DCB_int_0142.0238[Like, close to Howard?]43.1829
41DCB_se1_ag2_f_0143.6010Goes past Howard,44.8854
43 45.5039past uh- It stops at Silv- the S- Silver Spring line.48.4112 
44DCB_int_0148.9508So-49.2472
46 49.5237but there are other places included in Uptown. So like, Columbia Heights is [Uptown?]52.7273 
47DCB_se1_ag2_f_0152.6741[Yeah], all that's Uptown.53.5330
48DCB_int_0154.1068Oh, okay. So I'm'a put Uptown. And you've lived here all your life?56.7699
49DCB_se1_ag2_f_0158.2862Majority of my life, yeah.59.1982
50DCB_int_0159.3949Where'd else did you live?60.2842
51DCB_se1_ag2_f_0160.3944I lived in Maryland, too.61.3255
52DCB_int_0161.6713What part of Maryland?62.3477
53DCB_se1_ag2_f_0162.7886In Forestville.63.8298
55 64.1405District Heights.64.7714 
56DCB_int_0164.8626Mm. Mm-hm.65.4972
58 69.1825Um,69.8438 
60 70.4062education.71.0067 
61DCB_se1_ag2_f_0172.8802Majority in a city.73.7695
62DCB_int_0174.1600[/??/]74.4260
63DCB_se1_ag2_f_0174.2664[I did] go to75.3266
64 76.0221a couple Maryland schools though.77.2192
65DCB_int_0177.5688But you went to the- the city, and then did you go college?79.7530
66DCB_se1_ag2_f_0179.9734Mm-hm.80.2205
67DCB_int_0180.2091Where'd you go to college?80.9995
68DCB_se1_ag2_f_0181.0793UDC.81.4745
69DCB_int_0181.7672Oh!81.9268
71 82.4740You really are like a hometown [girl.]83.9979 
72DCB_se1_ag2_f_0183.6597[<laugh>] I am.84.8178
73DCB_int_0184.8634And your current occupation?86.2543
74DCB_se1_ag2_f_0187.1588Volunteer coordinator for the /RD-WORK-4/, Greater Washington.90.3463
75DCB_int_0194.3242Um,94.9931
77 95.1603what about your parents? Where was your mom born?96.8020 
78DCB_se1_ag2_f_0197.1934My mom was born here.98.1207
79DCB_int_0198.3212And what about your dad?99.0014
80DCB_se1_ag2_f_0199.3397He was born in South Carolina.101.2284
81DCB_int_01101.3766In South Carolina.102.2431
82DCB_se1_ag2_f_01102.5433Yeah.102.9756
83DCB_int_01104.1233What does your mom do?104.7503
84DCB_se1_ag2_f_01105.4002<ts>105.5636
86 105.6814She's deceased.107.0457 
87DCB_int_01107.5055Hm.107.7563
89 108.4774I'm so sorry.109.1539 
90DCB_se1_ag2_f_01109.9709It's okay. Her birthday was yesterday.111.2668
91DCB_int_01111.8825Oh!112.3423
93 113.5689And what about your dad?114.4505 
94DCB_se1_ag2_f_01114.9028He lives in Atlanta.115.6590
95DCB_int_01116.6205And do you know what he does?117.4755
96DCB_se1_ag2_f_01118.1738H- He teaches basketball.119.7054
97DCB_int_01119.9752Mm.120.3476
98DCB_se1_ag2_f_01121.3547[At elementary] school.122.1983
99DCB_int_01121.4269[?]121.6321
100 126.1611Alright.126.5867
102 127.4332So,127.6993 
104 127.8361now we got all the basic, kind of just like129.6868 
106 130.3898information there.131.3817 
108 132.9997Alright, so now we're going to get into questions about you.135.0100 
110 135.2571Just the little background information.136.8380 
111DCB_se1_ag2_f_01137.1230Okay.137.4004
112DCB_int_01137.5135Um, so where do you currently live? Uptown?139.6264
113DCB_se1_ag2_f_01139.8582No.140.1091
114DCB_int_01140.4131No. Okay.141.0173
115DCB_se1_ag2_f_01141.2415I live down the street. <heh>142.2258
116DCB_int_01142.8177Oh.143.0685
117DCB_se1_ag2_f_01143.2357[So like five] minutes away.144.3834
118DCB_int_01143.2889[Are you-]143.6044
119 144.8053Northeast or Southeast?145.7477
120DCB_se1_ag2_f_01145.7059Southeast.146.3406
121DCB_int_01146.4584You live Southeast. [What]-147.5025
122DCB_se1_ag2_f_01147.1567[Mm-hm.]147.5063
123DCB_int_01147.6089Is it a neighborhood specifically?148.9466
124DCB_se1_ag2_f_01149.6611<ts>149.8283
126 151.2800<sigh> [I don't think so.] I- Well-153.7340 
127DCB_int_01151.7807[Does it have a name?]152.6167
128DCB_se1_ag2_f_01154.4941Probably uh,155.6950
130 157.8070Simple City.158.5062 
131DCB_int_01160.2353[I've heard-]160.8852
132DCB_se1_ag2_f_01160.3759[Now I'm] not from Southeast.161.9949
133DCB_int_01162.4310Okay. Me neither. I'm not even from [DC so]- Mm-hm.164.9581
134DCB_se1_ag2_f_01164.0727[Mm, okay.]164.6085
135 165.8094[/But yeah./]166.3604
136DCB_int_01165.8094[So]166.4782
137 166.7557um, but-167.4996
139 167.8606You were very quick to say you're not from Southeast. Why?170.0078 
140DCB_se1_ag2_f_01170.2244[Cause] it's just- it's different.171.8091
141DCB_int_01170.2358[What-]170.5398
142DCB_se1_ag2_f_01171.9982It's different-172.7468
144 172.9406Since I moved173.6437 
146 173.7387over here, it's so different than living Uptown.175.7642 
147DCB_int_01176.5243Like what?176.9870
148DCB_se1_ag2_f_01178.3627[The- The- The-]179.5294
149DCB_int_01178.3741[Like, because I really don't-]179.5408
150DCB_se1_ag2_f_01179.7118The people.180.4300
152 181.3411The182.5192 
154 183.3629neighborhood, like184.5562 
156 184.9286all of that.185.5633 
157DCB_int_01186.2730Can you give me an example, like187.4586
158DCB_se1_ag2_f_01187.5461It's- [It's- It's-] It's more apartments189.8414
159DCB_int_01187.8007[talk about your neighborhood-]188.6367
160DCB_se1_ag2_f_01189.9858on this190.6091
162 190.9815s- on this side of town192.0142 
163DCB_int_01192.1244[And it was more-]193.0251
164DCB_se1_ag2_f_01192.4513[versus]193.4393
165 194.3894uh, actual houses like uh, townhouses196.7142
167 197.4173or197.7897 
169 198.0063what do you call them?198.5346 
171 198.7132Row homes.199.3592 
172DCB_int_01199.4998Mm-hm. [So you used] to live in a row house,201.4722
173DCB_se1_ag2_f_01199.9407[Uptown.]200.4423
175 201.4332Mm-hm.201.8247 
176DCB_int_01201.9463but now you live in apartment?203.0977
177DCB_se1_ag2_f_01203.1357Mm-hm.203.5120
178DCB_int_01203.7476Mkay.204.1618
180 204.6369And we talk about the people. What's different about the people?206.6919 
181DCB_se1_ag2_f_01207.1137They ratchet.207.8129
182DCB_int_01208.0486They wretched. Give me-208.7896
184 209.1430Okay. Wait a minute.209.8575 
185DCB_se1_ag2_f_01210.1615[It's- It's- It's- [always]212.1481
186DCB_int_01210.1615[See-]210.4199
188 211.4907[The Southeast] mental- Or the [Southeast /?/.]213.9760 
189DCB_se1_ag2_f_01213.1552[Yeah. It's-] It's always- I214.8957
190 216.2857It's sirens. It's217.6234
192 217.8932people218.4936 
194 218.8281out all hours of the night.220.6864 
196 223.1214It's just223.6345 
198 224.2463confusion. But it- it- it w- it used to be worse226.3317 
200 226.5863around here.227.1146 
202 227.9696I know that,228.3763 
204 228.7297but it's getting better. But229.8698 
206 230.1206it's just different. It's an adjustment.231.5485 
207DCB_int_01231.7500How long have you lived in Southeast?233.7375
208DCB_se1_ag2_f_01234.0529Since January.234.6762
209DCB_int_01234.9650Oh you just moved over [here.]235.9901
210DCB_se1_ag2_f_01235.7317[Mm-hm.]236.0015
211DCB_int_01236.1231From236.5754
213 236.8946[Uptown.]237.2936 
214DCB_se1_ag2_f_01237.0732[Uptown.] Mm-hm.237.7496
215DCB_int_01237.9853Okay, how long did you live in Uptown?239.3724
216DCB_se1_ag2_f_01242.5903Uh,242.8981
218 243.1907majority of my life. Excluding the years that I was in-245.9183 
220 246.6024in District Heights.247.3853 
221DCB_int_01248.0313Oh, so that was like your childhood [/home/.]249.9162
222DCB_se1_ag2_f_01249.5590[Yeah.]249.9428
223DCB_int_01250.0948Okay so let's go back then for a minute.251.8040
225 252.0586Let's talk about your childhood and like, growing up in that neighborhood.254.7986 
226DCB_se1_ag2_f_01255.0029[Okay.]255.4286
227DCB_int_01255.1397[Cause I] think that's always-256.6446
228 257.4047DC is not what it-258.2370
230 258.4460DC is now- is not what DC was. [So]261.7285 
231DCB_se1_ag2_f_01260.9950[No, it's not.]261.7475
232DCB_int_01261.9337E- And you've been in the same house for a long time [before you] moved out.264.9473
233DCB_se1_ag2_f_01264.1150[Mm-hm.]264.4875
234DCB_int_01265.2086So tell me a little bit about266.4893
236 266.7933what you remember about your neighborhood as a child.269.1571 
237DCB_se1_ag2_f_01269.1533<ts>269.3357
238 270.1784Everybody Uptown rode bikes.271.6187
239DCB_int_01271.9911Mm-hm.272.2761
240DCB_se1_ag2_f_01272.4547That's how we got around.273.2072
242 274.4414Um,275.1406 
243DCB_int_01276.1629[/Keep your head/] back for me.277.2536
244DCB_se1_ag2_f_01276.1667[all of my f-]276.7823
246 277.2384I'm sorry.277.5994 
247 277.7058[All of my friends]278.6711
248DCB_int_01277.8350[Your good.]278.3784
249DCB_se1_ag2_f_01279.1575live on the same street. I lived on Seventh Street.280.9427
250DCB_int_01281.1441[/And what?/]281.4785
251DCB_se1_ag2_f_01281.2771Seventh and /RD-ADDRESS-2/.282.6262
252 283.8499That's a284.3515
254 284.6546strip,285.1866 
256 285.8441too.286.1291 
258 286.2659It used to be real bad, but it's not.287.7556 
259DCB_int_01288.2231What is that close by?289.4496
260DCB_se1_ag2_f_01289.9094[/RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue.]290.5555
261DCB_int_01289.9094[/Like-/]290.3693
262 290.8139Oh, okay. [Okay.]291.5056
263DCB_se1_ag2_f_01291.3573[It's] close to /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue.292.3986
264 293.0067Um,293.6793
266 296.1105either296.9618 
268 297.2240either I was up top, on Seventh and /RD-ADDRESS-3/299.4424 
270 299.8263all the neighborhood kids or I was down bottom302.0190 
272 303.1933uh, at the playground304.2564 
274 304.4579at the elementary school /RD-SCHOOL-2/.305.8640 
275DCB_int_01307.0876So,307.3005
277 307.5057close to /RD-WORK-3/.308.7256 
278DCB_se1_ag2_f_01308.9412Yeah, it's not- it's not far at all. I could walk to /RD-WORK-3/311.4950
279DCB_int_01311.3240Mm-hm. Cause I know we [get]-312.1943
280DCB_se1_ag2_f_01312.0385[from] my old house.312.7187
281DCB_int_01312.5553But /RD-SCHOOL-1/-312.9847
282 313.0987/RD-SCHOOL-2/ made me realize [where you were] now.[Okay], now I'm-315.7960
283DCB_se1_ag2_f_01314.2873[Oh yeah.]314.8497
285 315.1917[Yup.]315.3970 
286DCB_int_01316.0658I know-316.4990
288 317.1869Got- Kind of have my [bearings.] Okay.318.5018 
289DCB_se1_ag2_f_01317.8595[Yeah.]318.1902
290 319.5915/Right there/.320.0780
292 320.9064Mm.321.5449 
293DCB_int_01321.5487And everybody rode bikes.322.7761
294DCB_se1_ag2_f_01322.9472Mostly everybody rode bikes (whispered).324.2421
295DCB_int_01324.4321Did you ride [bikes?]325.3100
296DCB_se1_ag2_f_01325.1314[I] did.325.6368
297DCB_int_01325.6482Mm.325.8686
298DCB_se1_ag2_f_01326.1423I rode bikes. Um,327.5446
300 329.7516<ts>>329.8542 
302 330.7282ever- everybody around there were friend-332.8070 
304 333.0645I'm still friends with a lot of people I'm-334.7252 
306 334.8772I used to be friends with, too.335.9375 
307DCB_int_01336.4809Did you337.0205
309 337.4500um,337.8680 
311 338.2775were you an only child?339.3340 
312DCB_se1_ag2_f_01339.5088No.339.9344
314 340.2688[I have]340.7097 
315DCB_int_01340.2840[You had] siblings?341.0669
316DCB_se1_ag2_f_01340.9795two older siblings and one younger one.343.0924
317DCB_int_01343.7452Did you all play together or were you uh- the age [differences-?]346.0519
318DCB_se1_ag2_f_01345.6529[No, we did-] we didn't grow up together. Me and my brother did.347.7544
319DCB_int_01348.1753Oh, okay.348.5630
321 349.0000And that's your younger [or older] brother? Okay that's your [younger brother.]351.6678 
322DCB_se1_ag2_f_01349.8931[Mm-hm.]350.3225
324 351.0977[My younger brother.]351.7476 
325DCB_int_01351.8920And how old is- How old is he?353.4948
326DCB_se1_ag2_f_01353.6772He's twenty five.354.4144
327DCB_int_01354.4562So he's what? Two years younger- [three years] younger than [you.]357.1126
328DCB_se1_ag2_f_01355.9307[Three year-]356.4058
330 356.7136[Mm-hm.]357.1278 
331DCB_int_01357.1962So did you all play together or you all had different [groups of friends?]359.3234
332DCB_se1_ag2_f_01358.6774[Yeah, we-] We played together. We kind of360.5942
333 360.7980had- The older we got, the more362.8264
335 363.3660our group of friends like,364.7531 
337 365.0837dispersed. Like, it wasn't-366.3758 
339 367.6670Younger? Yeah we had the same friends.369.3619 
340DCB_int_01369.4265Mm-hm.369.7913
341DCB_se1_ag2_f_01369.7951But370.0687
343 370.1941we still have the same friends now.371.4824 
345 371.8055But he- We just went in two different paths.373.6721 
346DCB_int_01373.7617Mm.374.0049
348 374.4077So, what did you all do as kids? Like in a neighborhood, you were at the playground. What'd you all do? Like what kind of games- [What did you-]379.5713 
349DCB_se1_ag2_f_01379.1419[We walked] around. We did a lot of walking. I w- I remember a lot of walking382.8956
350 383.0666Uptown.383.5797
352 383.9217And riding bikes.384.7806 
354 384.9782And just385.6318 
356 385.8750chilling on my friend's porch.387.7248 
357DCB_int_01388.7813Hm.389.0131
359 389.3666And- Hold on, I'm gonna pause for one second. /Your collar./391.4178 
360DCB_se1_ag2_f_01391.5660Okay.391.8662
362 392.1626<clears throat>392.7593 
363DCB_int_01394.0514Okay. So I'm sorry.394.8912
365 395.1344You rode bikes,396.2175 
367 396.4218um, and you all walked [around.]397.6569 
368DCB_se1_ag2_f_01397.1894[We did a lot] of walking.398.4359
369 398.7133Mm-hm.399.1922
370DCB_int_01399.0934Just up and down the street?400.0244
371DCB_se1_ag2_f_01400.6933Around the neighborhood.401.4495
373 402.2011Cause Uptown is different neighborhoods, too.404.2342 
374DCB_int_01404.7510Okay. Like, what's in different [neighborhoods?]406.6616
375DCB_se1_ag2_f_01406.1457[Um,]407.1861
376 407.7105<ts>407.8967
378 409.5764<ts> it's /T-Mob/, which is Truesdell.411.6704 
380 412.3459That's down-413.1085 
381DCB_int_01413.1174I never heard it called that.414.2230
382DCB_se1_ag2_f_01414.1206/T-Mob/ um,415.8307
383 416.1908fifty two hundred.417.3499
384DCB_int_01417.5551What's fifty two [hundred?]418.4938
385DCB_se1_ag2_f_01418.2354[It's-] it's in the same area as /T-Mob/.420.1013
386DCB_int_01420.4395Okay, so these are neighborhood, [like-]421.7649
387DCB_se1_ag2_f_01421.6433[These] aren't neighborhood-422.3501
388 422.6922It's [different- N-]423.9729
389DCB_int_01423.0494[In the neighborhood.]423.9805
390DCB_se1_ag2_f_01424.0907[Neighborhoods] within a neighborhood, but a- this neighborhood is all together.427.2211
391DCB_int_01424.0907[Diff-]424.5201
392DCB_se1_ag2_f_01427.6012[So it's-]428.1028
393DCB_int_01427.6316[Okay, so these like] turfs kind of.429.1479
394DCB_se1_ag2_f_01429.1251Yeah.429.4861
395 429.6837[Exactly.]430.2234
396DCB_int_01429.6837[Okay.]430.2234
397 430.4324So we had /T-Mob/, fifty two hundred,432.8446
398DCB_se1_ag2_f_01432.9814[Mm-hm.]433.6503
399DCB_int_01433.1676[what else?]433.6541
400DCB_se1_ag2_f_01434.2355CRT.435.0412
402 435.1704That's /Crittenden/ Street.436.1204 
404 436.6857Uh,437.2634 
406 438.6163/Fourth and Delafield/439.7526 
408 440.4699and-440.9069 
409DCB_int_01440.9449Why does that sound familiar (whispered)? I think somebody else was telling me about [that.]443.3961
410DCB_se1_ag2_f_01443.2175[That's] Uptown, too.444.0953
411DCB_int_01444.2397Was- Now,445.1100
413 445.4929were these-446.5266 
415 447.8263certain people could go on certain streets? Was it like,450.2812 
417 450.7135gang- I won't say gang, but was it like, most definitely this is my turf, you can't [come over here.]454.8368 
418DCB_se1_ag2_f_01454.2402[<ts> Yeah.] Sometime- Well, it- it didn't used to be like that,456.8690
419 457.1312but457.4999
421 457.7355like, I'm'a say about five, six years ago,460.2931 
423 461.1320it got really v- really violent up there.463.7428 
425 464.3166And,464.9171 
427 465.3456like, from466.3032 
429 466.5312CRT up,467.8537 
431 468.9406everybody was together, but CRT down,471.3566 
433 472.0293everybody was together.472.9340 
434DCB_int_01472.9888[When you say it got violent, like-]474.1346
435DCB_se1_ag2_f_01473.1314[They were kind of- They were kind of] like beefing.474.9213
436DCB_int_01475.6614Ah, [okay.]476.5963
437DCB_se1_ag2_f_01476.1820[And] from477.2195
438 477.4323one side of Georgia Avenue478.8346
440 479.1881to the other side of Georgia Avenue, they were beefing too.481.3077 
441DCB_int_01482.1741Okay, so like what was- like what was it-484.4315
443 485.0272What- What caused the violence? Was it drugs, was it just like, [this my] neighborhood, like what-490.2744 
444DCB_se1_ag2_f_01488.4322[I think it was-]489.1505
445DCB_int_01490.6051[what was the-]491.0611
446DCB_se1_ag2_f_01490.6203[I think drugs] had a lot to do with it. It was drugs. It was493.4515
447 493.5199uh,494.1241
449 494.3246just people not liking each other.495.7269 
451 497.0760It was a lot of-497.8246 
453 498.1439it was a lot of hood beef.499.0027 
454DCB_int_01499.9899Mm, and so now,501.6126
456 501.7836think- Okay, let's fast forward, and I want you to think about your neighborhood when you were there505.7843 
458 506.5292um- So that was as a kid. Did you see- did you realize like it was violent and all that as a-511.1190 
460 511.4306[as like, a] little person?512.5897 
461DCB_se1_ag2_f_01511.4382Mm-hm.511.8448
462DCB_int_01513.0267You did?513.4979
463DCB_se1_ag2_f_01513.4952Mm-hm.513.8428
464DCB_int_01513.9758And then as you got older, and you were kind of, you know- Some of your friends may have been doing some of this, or you like saw like, your neighborhood people- You were more aware of like-521.8795
465DCB_se1_ag2_f_01521.8795Yeah, [cause most] of m- Honestly, most of m-524.1207
466DCB_int_01522.1683[What was-]522.6699
467DCB_se1_ag2_f_01524.2651m- the neighborhood people,525.8118
469 526.6745I'm- I'm still friends with a lot of the girls.529.1057 
471 529.3375But most of the guys, are either531.5151 
473 531.7469dead or in jail.532.6095 
474DCB_int_01533.3687Because of what was [going on.]534.6304
475DCB_se1_ag2_f_01534.2883[Because] of what's going on- And my brother included. My brother- He got in a lot of trouble537.6630
476 538.3993being Uptown.539.3874
478 540.6300He went to jail a couple of times.541.8461 
480 543.6921So.544.1139 
481DCB_int_01544.2014So it was like,544.7752
483 545.1704violence. Violence like stabbing, shooting-547.4620 
484DCB_se1_ag2_f_01548.4675Yeah, one of my friend- my friend /RD-NAME-2/, he was murdered551.2233
486 551.5501like three or four years ago. He got stabbed.553.5187 
488 554.1676Um, my brother's555.3229 
490 555.4597best friend, he was556.8392 
492 557.2724killed on Mother's Day.558.6966 
493DCB_int_01559.4604Recently?560.0533
494DCB_se1_ag2_f_01560.1939Uh, three years [ago.]561.3530
495DCB_int_01561.1401[Oh], three years ago.561.9002
496DCB_se1_ag2_f_01561.8090Mm-hm.562.3106
497 563.9438<ts>564.0654
499 564.5587Somebody just got k- k-565.8591 
501 566.2544A friend of mine567.1512 
503 567.9902uh, /RD-NAME-1/. He got killed570.7264 
505 571.0228in February,571.8284 
507 572.1249right on /RD-ADDRESS-5/.573.1537 
508DCB_int_01573.3324So do you see a difference between-575.6772
510 576.1180because I know like- You know, we talk about the ratchet in Sa- Southeast,578.7506 
512 579.1003and but Uptown is supposed to be this whole thing. It's supposed to be [all-]582.6307 
513DCB_se1_ag2_f_01582.1633[Prestige /and that/.]583.1390
514DCB_int_01582.7818[Yes.] Hoity toity.584.0017
515 584.3513But are you seeing some of the same things586.7265
517 587.1322that you saw in Uptown- some of the same violence. Are you seeing that in Southeast? Or do you feel like it was worse in Uptown or-?592.5856 
518DCB_se1_ag2_f_01592.6454It's actually worse in Southeast.594.4544
519DCB_int_01594.5418It's worse. [Okay.]595.5298
520DCB_se1_ag2_f_01595.1498[It's worse.]595.7008
521 596.3583Um,597.0613
523 597.5392it's not-598.0713 
525 598.5197it's not ordin- It's not out of the ordinary to hear somebody601.3167 
527 601.4345getting killed around602.0958 
529 602.3114here,602.6307 
531 602.7827around these parts. But603.9189 
533 604.6866when you hear about Uptown, it's like oh my God. Can't believe such and such got killed607.9729 
535 608.5049because it's like-609.4702 
537 611.5632I guess Uptown's set in- in this-613.1783 
539 613.5470on this pedestal,614.3526 
540DCB_int_01614.7212Mm-[hm.]615.2343
541DCB_se1_ag2_f_01615.0747[on] a standard.616.0703
542 616.4542Like616.8608
544 617.4907they got617.8897 
546 618.2850the best of the best things, or620.2155 
548 621.0820this, that, and the third, but it's still-622.6391 
550 623.1446When it all boils down to it,624.3302 
552 624.7977people getting hurt. People losing their lives.626.1810 
553DCB_int_01626.9553Do you feel like- Okay.628.0156
555 628.4792So I don't want to like, dwell on this, but I think it's really interesting cause I haven't heard a lot of people talk about that- Like lived633.6618 
557 633.7302you know, they'll talk about oh everything was perfect,635.9078 
558DCB_se1_ag2_f_01636.3629[Oh.]637.1039
559DCB_int_01636.3705[but]637.1267
560 637.5790outside of like, what you see on TV for DC. You see, you know, you hear about ,and then the last two years I've been here as an adult,643.6547
562 644.0423like violence and things that happened,646.0070 
564 646.2797um, and you're talking about some of this live stuff.648.9057 
566 649.3883Do you feel like650.9085 
568 651.7778um,652.3668 
570 653.3815the city is unsafe?654.8598 
572 655.3234Or do you feel like it's a relatively safe city, there are just certain parts.658.7389 
573DCB_se1_ag2_f_01658.9517I think it's safe. Um,660.5137
575 661.4780It's gotten a lot safer.662.5991 
576DCB_int_01663.4389Why?663.7353
578 664.1420Why do you believe that?665.0312 
579DCB_se1_ag2_f_01665.2925<ts>665.4787
581 665.6687Because a lot of people-668.4087 
583 669.1916Honestly?669.9441 
585 671.1858I think people are getting older672.3335 
586DCB_int_01672.9871Mm-hm.673.2684
587DCB_se1_ag2_f_01674.0398and from,675.0621
589 675.2436when I probably was in middle school or high school,677.5541 
591 678.5118it weren't- it wasn't679.5759 
593 680.0994that many people going to college.681.6385 
595 682.0489Now and I see a lot of682.8166 
597 683.1966people actually684.2759 
599 684.9599caring about685.7494 
601 685.8900themselves and their lives and687.5176 
603 687.6724what they're going to do688.4818 
605 690.5862opposed to back then.691.6085 
606DCB_int_01692.8702Mm-hm.693.1894
608 693.8621Do you feel like-695.0591 
610 695.8373Do you see696.5213 
612 696.9469in the last697.8552 
614 698.0794ten, fifteen years, do you see the city has like really really changed a whole lot?701.5291 
616 701.8750Or do you feel like it's still the same, just703.7751 
618 703.9005dealing with the same kind of problems705.5223 
620 705.9821um, just people are getting more mature and really starting to care about themselves or do you see like709.8318 
622 709.9829the city itself has changed?711.4004 
623DCB_se1_ag2_f_01711.3510The city has changed.712.5138
624 713.2131Like, especially physically. Like, it's so many-715.5493
626 716.9212My dad- My dad comes up here once a year, but every time he comes, he's like, oh my God. It looks so different.722.3661 
627DCB_int_01723.2173Hm.723.5289
628DCB_se1_ag2_f_01727.4137<ts> A lot of people are moving away.728.4266
629DCB_int_01729.2199They're moving out of the city?730.1433
630DCB_se1_ag2_f_01730.1395Mm-hm.730.4968
631DCB_int_01731.6292Yeah, I know like, PG is the new733.4648
633 733.8182Ward Nine.734.7407 
634DCB_se1_ag2_f_01734.7407Yeah, it is.735.6718
635DCB_int_01735.6718Like-735.9682
636DCB_se1_ag2_f_01736.1544It is.736.7055
637DCB_int_01736.7663Black people are getting kicked out.738.0280
638DCB_se1_ag2_f_01738.3092[They are.]738.9780
639DCB_int_01738.3092[I mean-]738.9780
640DCB_se1_ag2_f_01739.3875But then-740.1628
642 740.3642Okay.740.8810 
644 741.4549A lot of people are going to Maryland,742.7660 
646 743.1308but Maryland don't really want744.4751 
648 744.8134all this745.4290 
650 745.7102foolishness going on in their city either.747.6066 
651DCB_int_01748.0512Right.748.3763
653 749.5932And so people are displaced.751.0905 
654DCB_se1_ag2_f_01751.2235[Mm-hm.]751.9075
655DCB_int_01751.2463[Um,]751.9075
656 752.0519and I think-752.7474
658 753.5901What I've seen,754.5972 
660 755.0114and it's so interesting like, being able to talk to somebody who's been here. Like,757.6070 
662 757.7780cause I've only been here a couple years as an adult. As a college student, I- you know, you don't pay attention. [You live in your little] bubble. You doing what [you do and that's it.]763.3293 
663DCB_se1_ag2_f_01761.2011[Mm-hm.]761.7636
665 762.6680[Mm-hm.]763.3293 
666DCB_int_01763.7768But as an adult,764.7078
668 764.9321and then working um, like um, in this neighborhood,767.9419 
670 768.4464it's very very interesting to see like, how the neighborhood has shifted. Like with the building of those new apartments,774.1040 
672 774.3548Now they're starting to like tear this area [down.]776.7642 
673DCB_se1_ag2_f_01776.4184[Mm-hm.]777.2355
674DCB_int_01777.2164Like gentrification is [really changing-]780.0467
675DCB_se1_ag2_f_01778.6862[It's real- It is.] It's scary. I-781.1146
676 781.5820It- It really really really really bothered me at first.784.3743
677DCB_int_01784.4655Why?784.8303
678DCB_se1_ag2_f_01785.3814Because786.3162
680 788.0482it is still a lot of good people here,790.0433 
682 790.4044but790.7578 
684 793.1814you're soliciting people794.9638 
686 795.5338with795.9252 
688 796.5865higher education,797.3883 
690 799.0613better799.4851 
692 799.6904background- Not better, but a different801.5677 
694 801.8185background. It's- It's getting too expensive to live in the city.804.2535 
695DCB_int_01804.5690Mm-hm.804.9946
696DCB_se1_ag2_f_01805.4772It's so expensive.806.4159
698 806.6249Even on this end,807.6662 
700 807.8477it's still very very expens- I wanted to809.6908 
702 810.0062actually move, U- back Uptown but I can't afford it.812.0460 
704 812.3120I can't afford to move Uptown.813.3115 
706 814.3452And it's funny that you say815.6091 
708 815.8242like,816.1465 
710 816.4087you notice the diff- Like with this club.818.2623 
712 818.7146This club, and this club's kids820.8009 
714 821.4090are so different from822.6241 
716 823.0877Clubhouse Six and their kids.824.5050 
718 824.8891And FBR and their kids.826.5232 
720 827.0733It's so different,827.7003 
722 828.0841and i- it depends on the area.829.5549 
723DCB_int_01830.3947Mm-hm.830.8127
725 833.7000I think834.3727 
727 834.5323like, looking at835.6115 
729 835.9574Clubhouse Six, <clears throat>837.6172 
731 837.8186it's a lot838.4494 
733 838.5672more diversity there.839.9771 
735 840.2621I think [especially as Columbia] Heights is changing,842.6744 
736DCB_se1_ag2_f_01840.7790[Mm-hm.]841.2160
737DCB_int_01843.1152you see a lot more um,845.2320
739 846.2723<ts>846.5041 
741 846.6903Latinos coming [into the Club], and in that community,849.5101 
742DCB_se1_ag2_f_01847.7924[Yeah.]848.1344
743DCB_int_01849.7723but you see a lot of-850.7452
745 850.9200I won't- Like not necessarily old money like they're not rich rich, but they're like854.7042 
747 855.0576middle class, upper middle class856.8390 
749 857.3254and-857.8276 
751 857.9166But they've been in this community all their lives. They've been- /RD-WORK-4/ has been a part of their861.3081 
752DCB_se1_ag2_f_01861.5922[Mm-hm.]862.1090
753DCB_int_01861.8620[community] so they- Their kids go- They went there. [Their kids] go there.865.2480
754DCB_se1_ag2_f_01864.1421[Right.]864.4006
755DCB_int_01865.6043You know, um,866.6418
757 867.4246whereas here, it's the same kind of thing, but it's still like, the socioeconomic status really hasn't shifted.872.1454 
758DCB_se1_ag2_f_01872.1439It hasn't.872.7327
759DCB_int_01872.8505Like it's still mostly874.6974
761 875.1269working class, maybe lower middle class,877.6911 
763 878.0407but for the most part, it's still like the same neighborhood kids, their families881.6804 
765 881.9807from back [then, and now]- You know.883.8086 
766DCB_se1_ag2_f_01882.6533[Mm-hm.]883.1245
767 884.1886[I noticed that too.]884.9905
768DCB_int_01884.1886And /they'll/ kids will come here in twenty years.886.7947
769 888.1476So, it's- Hopefully if we're still here in twenty years. Amen.890.8648
770DCB_se1_ag2_f_01891.4757<ts> /Hey yeah./891.8937
772 892.0951God willing.892.6728 
773DCB_int_01892.8362Amen.893.1972
774DCB_se1_ag2_f_01893.4518[<laugh>]894.5619
775DCB_int_01893.5810[Um,]894.1891
776 894.5919so,895.2037
778 895.6208what high school did you go to?896.7305 
779DCB_se1_ag2_f_01897.1593<ts> I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/898.9537
781 899.3185and to /RD-SCHOOL-3/.900.3484 
783 901.0961So.901.3858 
784DCB_int_01901.6661Mm,901.8903
785DCB_se1_ag2_f_01901.9055[<laugh>]902.7340
786DCB_int_01902.2476[Mkay.] So you one of the people that sm- So, okay. How as that experience first of all, being a person that moved all around? Cause you know, high school's a big deal.908.6311
787DCB_se1_ag2_f_01908.6501So, this is how it went.910.0144
789 910.1426I went-910.6595 
791 910.8647I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/-912.0922 
793 912.3734I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/.913.7035 
795 913.7947Though both of those were914.7448 
797 915.2569um,915.7623 
799 916.1613Southeast917.0696 
801 918.1793elementary schools.918.9013 
802DCB_int_01919.0191Mm-hm.919.3042
803DCB_se1_ag2_f_01919.8885I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and then I moved922.5715
805 922.9667and went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ in Maryland.924.7756 
806DCB_int_01925.2915So how did you go to a Southeast elementary school but you lived in927.9939
807 928.0755Uptown?928.4814
808DCB_se1_ag2_f_01928.4799That's-928.8106
809 929.1450I don't know.929.4604
810DCB_int_01929.5241That's how the- Just how the school [was- Oh.]930.9264
811DCB_se1_ag2_f_01930.7972[No], no, no, no. My mom did that.932.0132
812 932.2223My mom [did that.]933.0469
813DCB_int_01932.5225[Oh your mom? Okay.]933.4041
814DCB_se1_ag2_f_01933.2901[Mm-hm.]933.6702
815 934.2849Um,934.8017
817 935.6340I think it was like, more convenient for whoever was going to pick me up,938.1383 
819 938.6286or whatever. But939.6243 
820DCB_int_01939.7487Mm.939.9273
821DCB_se1_ag2_f_01940.0413um,940.5012
823 941.2004and then I went to go live with my942.3760 
825 942.4898aunt942.8383 
827 944.6577in um,945.5888 
829 947.1431I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. And I went to949.0964 
831 949.5211/RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School and /RD-SCHOOL-2/.951.6987 
833 952.8996So, it was very very different- I'm sorry (whispered).955.3422 
835 955.4828It was different.956.3759 
837 956.9003It was like a culture shock because958.5002 
839 958.9363I'm from the city,959.7885 
841 959.9032but,960.2094 
843 961.1823I went to Maryland, and I got accustomed to the Maryland lifestyle.963.8729 
845 964.1760Then I came back to the city.965.7417 
846DCB_int_01966.4067So what's the Maryland lifestyle? Like, what made it so d- Cause that seems like it's just down the street.969.8602
847DCB_se1_ag2_f_01970.6887It is, but it's so different.972.3093
849 972.7446[Like, they] get- they c-973.5591 
850DCB_int_01972.7484[/Like how?/]973.1513
851DCB_se1_ag2_f_01974.5830Me and my friends-975.5065
853 975.7573Me and the people I grew up around, we call Mary-977.7031 
855 978.4394guys from Maryland, Maryland Mikes.980.0621 
856DCB_int_01980.3851Mm-hm.980.7537
857DCB_se1_ag2_f_01980.8943Cause they green and, you know.982.7033
859 982.9845They just have a certain983.9145 
861 985.2523swag to them.986.0846 
863 986.8598But it was different because988.5979 
865 990.3285when I got to Eastern, it was992.3921 
867 992.5289just really really993.8162 
869 994.5725ghetto and995.7886 
871 996.2370for it to be the pride of Capitol Hill, it was not the pride of Capitol Hill.999.2687 
872DCB_int_011000.7128Mm.1000.9370
873DCB_se1_ag2_f_011000.9218Now, I came in,1002.2215
874 1002.4115and I f-1002.7802
876 1003.2542I really felt1004.1093 
878 1004.4475like I was the smartest person at school because1007.1248 
880 1008.1139they1008.6003 
882 1009.1969didn't learn half of what I already knew1011.4619 
884 1012.1041yet.1012.3626 
886 1014.0755<ts>1014.2275 
888 1014.5696And w-1014.9458 
890 1015.0954The reason I went, I uh-1016.7281 
892 1016.8839had /RD-SCHOOL-3/ which is Uptown-1018.5779 
894 1019.0568I had to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ because1020.4971 
896 1020.6871a credit of mine in Maryland didn't count1022.6974 
898 1023.0043in DC so I had to take n- a night school class.1025.2085 
900 1027.8069So but, yeah that's why I said that.1028.9888 
902 1029.3384And when I got to Eastern, it was1030.5317 
904 1030.6229drinking. It was smoking. I could not believe where I was- I was like, oh my God. Ma, you need to get me out of this school.1036.4326 
906 1036.6606But I got used to it.1037.6449 
908 1038.2520<ts> I got used to it.1038.9094 
909DCB_int_011040.9426And so, what- Okay. Describe a typical day like in high school. Like, what it was- Like when you walked [in or-]1045.6198
910DCB_se1_ag2_f_011045.2017[I'm trying to think] of that movie. I- Not The Substitute.1047.3859
911 1047.7052[It was-]1048.1346
912DCB_int_011047.7052[On-]1048.1346
913DCB_se1_ag2_f_011048.3588Uh- (snapping).1049.2139
914DCB_int_011048.9099One Eight Seven?1049.6889
915 1050.2171Or-1050.6732
916DCB_se1_ag2_f_011050.6542[One Eight Seven [too]!1051.5320
917DCB_int_011051.2394[It's-] Mm.1051.8627
918DCB_se1_ag2_f_011051.8361And uh1052.5458
919DCB_int_011053.1918Dangerous Minds.1053.9937
920DCB_se1_ag2_f_011054.0735Dangerous Minds too. [<laugh>]1056.1978
921DCB_int_011055.6506[Oh that's not] the one you were- [Lean on Me?]1057.2646
922DCB_se1_ag2_f_011056.6301[No.] Lean on Me!1057.6182
923DCB_int_011057.6030Mm.1057.9716
924DCB_se1_ag2_f_011058.1806It was just like that.1059.1193
926 1059.4271Like1059.6931 
928 1059.8414books-1060.5178 
930 1060.6698It w- They had no books. They h- They didn't have anything. And it was just like, /geesh/.1064.9100 
932 1065.2824It was no teachers.1066.7873 
934 1067.7326It was no- You know, cause you have teachers and you have educators.1070.7007 
936 1071.3923Teachers came to get paid.1072.6607 
938 1074.0896And I remember one- one of my English teachers, she was like,1076.5407 
940 1077.1630I don't care what y'all do, cause I'm still gonna get paid.1078.8352 
942 1079.4850So either y'all gonna learn, or y'all not gonna learn.1081.5096 
944 1081.7452I'm like, what do you mean, you're still gonna get paid? I want to learn.1084.3028 
946 1084.6182This is important.1085.4619 
948 1085.8875But people really-1086.6047 
950 1088.9800I got introduced to-1090.3367 
952 1091.5518Well,1091.9661 
954 1092.2625I knew the Uptown girl gangs, but1093.8662 
956 1094.2310it was a lot- It was girl gangs from all over the city in Eastern.1097.6313 
958 1097.7301Cause people from y-1098.5375 
960 1098.6916all of the city went to Eastern.1099.8355 
962 1100.3713From Uptown and um,1101.8259 
964 1103.4904s- the South side, Northeast1104.9877 
966 1105.3944and Southwest.1106.0860 
967DCB_int_011106.9857So, Uptown- Okay. So, Uptown is only talking about Northwest, right?1110.0221
968DCB_se1_ag2_f_011109.9423Uptown is Northwest.1110.9219
969DCB_int_011110.9637And then,1111.7237
971 1112.3166the rest n-1112.9550 
972DCB_se1_ag2_f_011113.0538[Northeast-] Northeast is like1115.3834
973DCB_int_011113.0538[the other- Mm-hm.]1113.9735
974DCB_se1_ag2_f_011115.5611um-1116.0513
976 1117.0622This is considered Northeast. [Northeast], Trinidad, uh, Brookland,1121.6216 
977DCB_int_011118.1414Right.1118.4873
978DCB_se1_ag2_f_011122.0586all that's Northeast. Southwest is like down by1125.0570
980 1125.9415the Nat Stadium1126.9296 
981DCB_int_011127.1272Mm-hm.1127.4844
982DCB_se1_ag2_f_011127.5870and all of that.1128.0621
983DCB_int_011128.4801And then Southeast is1129.3580
985 1129.8245across the river.1130.6871 
986DCB_se1_ag2_f_011130.9797Across the river.1131.7018
987DCB_int_011131.7626Mm-hm.1132.1692
988DCB_se1_ag2_f_011132.3402Like by um,1132.9103
990 1134.5216Third World and all that.1135.8128 
991DCB_int_011136.3942Third World?1137.1352
992DCB_se1_ag2_f_011137.1884Thir-1137.5153
994 1137.6901Third World's Third Street.1138.9746 
996 1140.2277It's really- Barry Farms, you heard of Barry Farms? MLK.1143.7202 
998 1145.1519Which, I think that's gonna be the last1147.8805 
1000 1148.8230to get1149.5071 
1002 1149.6999a makeover,1150.5208 
1004 1151.2238but I think that's going to be the biggest makeover.1152.6641 
1006 1152.9910I'm gonna be sad to see that one.1154.1851 
1007DCB_int_011155.5248You gonna be sad- Why?1156.2469
1008DCB_se1_ag2_f_011157.0867Because I know that1158.5650
1010 1160.2514it's not gonna be that many black people in the city.1161.9501 
1011DCB_int_011163.6602That's gonna take the last bit of chocolate out of [Chocolate City?]1166.2587
1012DCB_se1_ag2_f_011165.6544[Yeah, it's not] gonna be Chocolate City anymore- Don't nobody even call it Chocolate [City anymore.]1169.0167
1013DCB_int_011168.3792[I know, we like] swirl right now.1169.9554
1014DCB_se1_ag2_f_011169.9782Yeah. Oh, it's bigger than swirl.1171.4831
1016 1172.0038We got a little shr-1172.6612 
1018 1173.2883pinstripe.1173.8051 
1019DCB_int_011174.6098We just a little-1175.2673
1020DCB_se1_ag2_f_011175.2559[Mm-hm.]1176.0045
1021DCB_int_011175.7271[Mm.]1176.0539
1022 1176.2515Just a drizzle.1176.9508
1023DCB_se1_ag2_f_011177.0610Yeah.1177.4524
1024DCB_int_011177.6652Mm, we like the little fudge on a sundae?1179.3069
1026 1180.1687[On the ice cream su-]1181.1567 
1027DCB_se1_ag2_f_011180.1801[But the little bit of- The little bit of-]1182.0650
1028DCB_int_011181.3315[Little bit of-] Not a lot- [not] the extra [fudge.]1183.3875
1029DCB_se1_ag2_f_011182.3386[The-]1182.5248
1031 1183.0607[Uh-uh.]1183.5661 
1032 1183.7485You got to pay extra for- [<laugh>]1185.8709
1033DCB_int_011184.5494[<laugh>]1186.6054
1034 1186.7954Okay, let's go back to [the girl gangs] at Eastern. Okay.1189.2380
1035DCB_se1_ag2_f_011187.5289[Okay.]1187.9355
1036DCB_int_011189.5649I'm sorry.1189.9753
1038 1190.2185<ts> So-1190.8075 
1039DCB_se1_ag2_f_011191.1382It was so many girl gangs at Eastern.1192.4949
1041 1193.4934And I was cool with all of 'em though.1194.6943 
1043 1195.3365I didn't-1195.6558 
1045 1195.7850I didn't run with a clique at all.1197.0657 
1047 1197.6699[I never-]1198.1259 
1048DCB_int_011197.6737[So you just] kind of navigated through all [of /those/.]1199.8693
1049DCB_se1_ag2_f_011199.5501[/Yeah./] And I- and I think that that's1201.1576
1050 1201.2944like now, that's how I know so many people.1203.9649
1052 1205.7854It was Most Wanted. It was YBS. It was um,1209.0907 
1054 1209.7595<ts>1209.8964 
1056 1210.7666uh, who else?1211.8991 
1058 1212.7694Yellow Brick.1213.3964 
1060 1213.9503It was so many-1214.8320 
1062 1214.9308so many girl gangs.1216.3027 
1063DCB_int_011217.1995[And] what is- Okay. U-1218.4916
1064DCB_se1_ag2_f_011217.2109[S-]1217.4884
1065DCB_int_011218.9657Not that you were in the gang, but like that you knew about the gangs, like what did you have to do- You know, how did you get in?1225.1798
1067 1225.4138I- Obviously you can't get out, so how did you get in? Like what-1228.1804 
1069 1228.7115what was the1229.1220 
1070DCB_se1_ag2_f_011229.2702[I think-]1229.8364
1071DCB_int_011229.4944[privilege] of being in the [gang?]1230.9005
1072DCB_se1_ag2_f_011230.7523[Some] of 'em, they were f- They used to fight, but1233.6053
1073 1234.0044most- like, m- I know most W- Most of the Most Wanted hunnies were related.1237.9719
1075 1238.4919They were-1238.7686 
1077 1238.9826related.1239.3260 
1078DCB_int_011239.2801Mm, like fam- Okay.1240.2672
1079DCB_se1_ag2_f_011240.2672Mm-hm.1240.7099
1080DCB_int_011241.6376Hm.1241.8170
1082 1242.4577So,1243.0984 
1084 1243.3547was there ever a time- Especially because your high school was doing a lot-1246.4902 
1086 1246.6952Was there ever a time you felt like just-1248.5199 
1088 1248.7966Not even unsafe, but you felt like scared for your life. You were like, oh my God.1252.3178 
1090 1252.5575Something's gonna happen, and I'm'a get caught up.1254.4231 
1091DCB_se1_ag2_f_011256.0718<ts>1256.2513
1093 1256.5861I don't know.1257.1653 
1095 1258.1635I was- I was never scared. Only when they said the sniper was1261.0952 
1097 1261.3925r- riding around out Eastern.1262.8225 
1099 1263.1915[That's it.]1263.6990 
1100DCB_int_011263.2018[Oh that was] what? Two thousand two?1264.7035
1101DCB_se1_ag2_f_011265.5736[That's when I] got to Eastern, yep.1266.8037
1102DCB_int_011265.5839[I think.]1265.9939
1103 1267.1728Mm-hm.1267.5725
1105 1267.9006That was [my s-]1268.5464 
1106DCB_se1_ag2_f_011268.2337[That's it.]1268.7770
1107DCB_int_011269.2332second year in college. I remember that. And I had just come from that Home [Depot, you know the] one?1273.0196
1108DCB_se1_ag2_f_011272.2201[For real?]1272.7429
1109DCB_int_011273.2913Was it um,1273.9217
1111 1274.0806<ts>1274.1882 
1113 1274.4394not Ty- Is it Tyson's Corner?1275.7464 
1115 1276.2384Not Tyson's [Corner, but-]1277.2481 
1116DCB_se1_ag2_f_011276.6741[/???/]1277.2584
1117DCB_int_011277.4839The other place. Mm-hm. But I had just went to that Home Depot a couple days before.1280.9936
1118DCB_se1_ag2_f_011281.2140Oh yeah yeah yeah. Somebody did- They-1282.9259
1120 1283.2180[Uh-]1283.6845 
1121DCB_int_011283.2180[Over]1283.6947
1122 1283.8229Alexan- Not Alexan- Um, Fairfax Way.1286.1075
1123DCB_se1_ag2_f_011286.3279I don't know Virginia [like that.]1287.5632
1124DCB_int_011287.1378[Okay.]1287.5529
1125 1287.9476[Mm.]1288.2295
1126DCB_se1_ag2_f_011287.9630[<laugh>]1288.1987
1127DCB_int_011288.4499Mkay. I- Yes.1289.4135
1129 1289.6851[Most-] Most DCers-1291.7199 
1130DCB_se1_ag2_f_011289.8645<laugh>1290.3155
1131DCB_int_011292.2056Like Virginia is another world. Even though it's right across-1294.5633
1132DCB_se1_ag2_f_011294.6658Right across the brid- It [is.]1295.8831
1133DCB_int_011295.6806[It's] another [world.]1296.6647
1134DCB_se1_ag2_f_011296.3008[But it-]1296.6750
1135 1296.8903Even- It's-1298.0268
1137 1298.4779You got-1299.1288 
1139 1300.8100I guess wherever you're from1302.6039 
1141 1302.7884in a five to ten mile radius,1304.9103 
1143 1305.0577that's what people conform to and identify with.1308.4046 
1145 1308.8864Like,1309.2196 
1147 1309.7578n- Even now, like you said it- it- It's the ninth- Some of Maryland is the- The outskirts of DC, some of Maryland is the ninth ward right?1315.5893 
1148DCB_int_011315.6303Mm-hm.1315.9019
1149DCB_se1_ag2_f_011315.9942But if you go down in Waldorf and Bryans Road, it's [totally] [different.]1319.6627
1150DCB_int_011318.9042[Hm.]1319.1297
1152 1319.3706[Different.]1319.7243 
1153DCB_se1_ag2_f_011319.9549It's totally different. Just like in1321.3952
1155 1321.7283Arlington and Alexandria. It's totally different.1323.7067 
1156DCB_int_011324.7101So when you- Okay. When you think about DC,1326.7808
1158 1327.0514does all of DC-1328.1585 
1160 1328.8031Do all four1329.4540 
1162 1329.6283quadrants1330.4842 
1164 1330.9814and all eight wards, does that all make up DC?1333.4724 
1166 1333.9900Um, and then when you think about DMV, where does that- Where do those boundaries kind of stop? [Cause people talk about the area-]1339.7344 
1167DCB_se1_ag2_f_011338.4787[I don't- I don't-] I don't identify with DMV.1340.9491
1168 1341.2138I'm not from the DMV.1342.0237
1169DCB_int_011342.2287You just from DC.1343.1359
1170DCB_se1_ag2_f_011342.9411I'm from DC <laugh>.1343.8095
1171DCB_int_011343.8624And that's what a DC person would say.1345.4264
1172DCB_se1_ag2_f_011345.5641[Yeah.]1345.8152
1173DCB_int_011345.6820A D- A person from Maryland be like, no, I'm from the area. I'm from [the DMV.]1349.5261
1174DCB_se1_ag2_f_011348.7162[Right. Right. <laugh>]1350.5512
1175DCB_int_011349.8746[You can tell.]1350.5563
1176 1350.7498You can always tell if somebody's from1352.5181
1177DCB_se1_ag2_f_011352.6411[Maryland or Virginia.]1353.4150
1178DCB_int_011352.8153[DC.]1353.2869
1179 1353.7584Mm-hm.1354.0711
1180DCB_se1_ag2_f_011354.1890Cause they always say DMV.1355.0398
1181DCB_int_011355.1372Mm-hm.1355.4806
1183 1355.7727The ar-1356.0495 
1185 1356.2494But DC people don't say that.1357.3668 
1186DCB_se1_ag2_f_011357.4014Mm-mm.1357.7960
1187DCB_int_011357.9857Ever.1358.3188
1188DCB_se1_ag2_f_011358.5802Mm-mm.1358.9749
1189DCB_int_011359.1440Mm.1359.4567
1191 1359.8513`1360.3331 
1193 1360.5945So you had the Maryland Mikes. What was the D- Like, the DC guys?1363.7826 
1195 1363.9453Di- Do they have a name like,1365.4215 
1197 1365.6829were they- You know, cause they were tougher or-1368.0303 
1198DCB_se1_ag2_f_011368.4762Tougher.1369.0144
1200 1369.7410Uh, no.1370.3816 
1202 1370.8019It just /like/-1371.5195 
1203DCB_int_011371.3042It was just the dudes.1372.3754
1204DCB_se1_ag2_f_011372.6112Some-1372.8931
1206 1373.4415Yeah.1373.8311 
1207DCB_int_011374.6922Mkay.1375.1278
1209 1375.6301Alright, so, what made you- Okay. So let's transition from high school and the1379.1500 
1211 1379.6062gangs. So when you- Oh. One other question. When you went to Roosevelt,1382.6661 
1213 1383.7412did you only go to the night class there or did you just transfer totally to Roosevelt?1386.7508 
1214DCB_se1_ag2_f_011386.7508<ts> No I just went to the night school.1387.9031
1215DCB_int_011388.1388And then you went to Eastern in the day [time.]1389.7534
1216DCB_se1_ag2_f_011389.4561[Right.]1389.8046
1217DCB_int_011390.6593Wow (whispered).1390.9873
1219 1391.2077Uh, how was that?1391.9868 
1220DCB_se1_ag2_f_011392.3046/I'd rather had/ went to Roos during the day.1394.5085
1222 1395.6105Only because it was like, down the street from my house.1397.5108 
1223DCB_int_011397.5057That's what I thought. If you were-1398.5683
1224DCB_se1_ag2_f_011398.5666And all my friends went there.1399.5610
1225 1399.9197All my neighborhood friends went to Roos.1401.2831
1226DCB_int_011401.3754And you went to [Eastern f-]1402.7131
1227DCB_se1_ag2_f_011402.2928[Mm-hm. My] brother went to Roosevelt1404.1265
1228 1404.3469and MacFarland and all of that.1405.6949
1230 1405.8589Well I-1406.1510 
1232 1406.3458MacFarland closed now [I think.]1407.7707 
1233DCB_int_011407.4990[They] closed- Yeah they [closed.] Cause we used to um-1409.8055
1234DCB_se1_ag2_f_011408.2935[Yeah.]1408.7394
1235DCB_int_011410.3732Only reason I know MacFarland is because when I worked at Six,1413.3664
1236DCB_se1_ag2_f_011413.8380[Oh.]1415.1245
1237DCB_int_011413.8482[we did a- We did a middle] school program there,1416.2367
1238DCB_se1_ag2_f_011416.8300[Yeah they closed now.]1417.7269
1239DCB_int_011416.8402[and like our kids] traveled, and they came over to the Club and stuff like that.1420.2179
1240 1420.6331Mm-hm. But they- I think they closed what? A year and a half ago.1423.0472
1241DCB_se1_ag2_f_011423.6046Oh [okay.]1424.2811
1242DCB_int_011423.9736[It's] recent. In the last1425.3267
1243 1425.4856couple years, [they closed.] Um,1427.2744
1244DCB_se1_ag2_f_011426.1007[Mm-hm.]1426.6645
1245DCB_int_011427.8433So1428.3405
1247 1429.4566wait. I'm still confused. How did you get to Eastern and your brother was at Roosevelt?1432.5216 
1248DCB_se1_ag2_f_011433.1726<ts>1433.4340
1250 1433.5518Because for like, a good six months,1436.7079 
1252 1437.6817we were living in Northeast.1439.2193 
1253DCB_int_011441.0748So you all moved, and then you all moved back to Uptown?1442.9289
1254DCB_se1_ag2_f_011442.9187We- We were on1445.1175
1255 1446.1682/RD-ADDRESS-7/.1447.1215
1257 1448.6335We were on /RD-ADDRESS-8/. That's Uptown, off Missouri Avenue.1451.0054 
1258DCB_int_011451.0823Okay.1451.3590
1259DCB_se1_ag2_f_011451.6409And then we moved to1453.3682
1261 1454.5419Northeast cause my mom got a1455.7926 
1263 1456.0424three bedroom instead of a1456.9138 
1265 1457.0624two bedroom that she originally had1458.4565 
1267 1459.4509Uptown.1459.9942 
1268DCB_int_011460.1736Okay.1460.5631
1269DCB_se1_ag2_f_011460.7117But then she did not like it.1461.8342
1271 1462.1097The landlord was on some shady stuff,1464.1189 
1273 1464.2727so we moved1464.6571 
1275 1464.9954back Uptown to Seventh Street.1466.1742 
1276DCB_int_011467.0865Okay.1467.4505
1278 1468.1321Now I got you.1469.0086 
1279DCB_se1_ag2_f_011469.0893Right.1469.3046
1280DCB_int_011469.5660Now that [makes sense.]1470.5887
1281DCB_se1_ag2_f_011469.9402[And my brother was] in1470.9499
1282 1471.1498uh,1471.5086
1284 1471.8673he was- At the time, he was in1473.3947 
1286 1473.6510middle school.1474.2045 
1288 1474.3224He was about to be in middle school.1475.2911 
1289DCB_int_011475.5513Mm-hm.1475.8793
1291 1476.0023So high school hadn't- So, by the time you all moved back and got settled, that's how he ended up going to Roosevelt.1480.3590 
1292DCB_se1_ag2_f_011480.4205Right.1480.8203
1293DCB_int_011481.2405[But you had already been to Eastern.]1482.7257
1294DCB_se1_ag2_f_011481.3738[Cause he went- He went to-] He went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/-1484.1352
1295 1485.0988He went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and /RD-SCHOOL-3/.1487.7486
1297 1487.8819[So] he is-1488.7378 
1298DCB_int_011487.9229[Mm.]1488.1740
1299DCB_se1_ag2_f_011489.4951[He all the way-]1490.3972
1300DCB_int_011489.5003[He Northwest all] the way.1490.7765
1301DCB_se1_ag2_f_011490.6945All- Yes.1491.5094
1302DCB_int_011491.6017That neighborhood.1492.4115
1303DCB_se1_ag2_f_011492.3141He has that tattooed on his-1493.8877
1304 1494.8871on his ass.1495.5022
1306 1496.2031Uptown. He got1497.0078 
1308 1497.1616UP town.1498.1713 
1309DCB_int_011499.0887Okay.1499.4988
1310DCB_se1_ag2_f_011499.9703No, that's not cute.1500.7955
1311DCB_int_011501.3593Okay.1501.6976
1313 1502.0500Yes ma'am.1502.5625 
1314DCB_se1_ag2_f_011502.7522Mm.1503.0648
1315DCB_int_011503.0136I mean, well he love his [neighborhood.]1504.3974
1316DCB_se1_ag2_f_011504.2591[He] do.1504.6537
1317DCB_int_011505.7967And his neighborhood love him.1507.0883
1319 1508.0468Was he in a gang?1508.8259 
1320DCB_se1_ag2_f_011509.1526He was.1509.6652
1321DCB_int_011509.8138Mm.1510.0701
1323 1510.8645How was-1511.2592 
1325 1511.8230[/Well-/]1512.0741 
1326DCB_se1_ag2_f_011511.8332He still- He- I mean he still [aff- affiliated.]1514.1294
1327DCB_int_011513.0018[Yeah I guess you don't get out.] Yeah, you don't really.1515.0520
1328DCB_se1_ag2_f_011516.2347He still <sigh> get in trouble with them1518.0594
1330 1519.0589at twenty five.1519.6791 
1331DCB_int_011521.1962Well, I think you have to grow out of these things. There is something that comes and-1524.7161
1332DCB_se1_ag2_f_011525.9360<ts> I think if you've been to jail enough times, you would think that you would get it,1529.7891
1334 1530.8295but not my- my brother's very hard headed.1532.4543 
1335DCB_int_011533.6998But it could go either way right? Either you go and you have this experience, like you know what, I need to stop getting into trouble or you go and it makes you harder. Like, look1540.8127
1336DCB_se1_ag2_f_011541.7032[Yeah.]1542.0159
1337DCB_int_011541.7135[they] didn't do nothing to me, so I'm'a keep- you know what I mean? Like it's-1544.0507
1338 1544.2506i- Either you gonna really1545.5883
1340 1545.7575go on the straight and narrow afterwards1547.1926 
1342 1547.5770or you just going buck wild and be like [what?]1549.7182 
1343DCB_se1_ag2_f_011549.3030[Yeah.]1549.7541
1344 1549.9437My brother is a hood ninja.1551.3430
1345DCB_int_011551.9221Okay.1552.3476
1347 1552.5833And- and what is a hood ninja?1553.7827 
1348DCB_se1_ag2_f_011554.2337I don't say the N word.1555.0743
1350 1555.4574Alright?1555.8060 
1351DCB_int_011555.8829Mm-mm. Mkay, so I got you. I got [you.]1558.3072
1352DCB_se1_ag2_f_011558.0561[So I] substitute it with ninja.1559.2964
1353DCB_int_011559.7167Okay, little hood-1560.7674
1355 1560.9929I'm not e-1561.4081 
1357 1561.7297You know, I appreciate that. I might have to adopt that if you don't mind.1564.4052 
1358DCB_se1_ag2_f_011564.4155That's fine.1565.0152
1359DCB_int_011565.0920Great, thank you. [I might e- I] might-1566.6861
1360DCB_se1_ag2_f_011565.6251[Take it and run with it.]1566.4158
1361 1567.7765[<laugh>]1569.2065
1362DCB_int_011568.4633[/I might run off./]1569.1809
1363 1569.5807Uh, okay. So how did you end up going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/?1571.8923
1364DCB_se1_ag2_f_011573.4555Well,1573.8810
1366 1574.4947first I went-1575.1969 
1368 1575.4993I was online. University of Phoenix. [Cause after] high school I didn't- I was so turned off of school.1580.1994 
1369DCB_int_011577.2471[Hm.]1577.4470
1370DCB_se1_ag2_f_011580.6094I1580.8606
1372 1581.0438didn't go back to school for like two to three years.1583.4733 
1374 1585.0212So I was a late1586.3794 
1376 1587.1944first time college student.1588.4642 
1378 1589.5303But I didn't- My mom was sick, so I didn't want to go away.1592.3442 
1379DCB_int_011592.9131Mm.1593.0823
1380DCB_se1_ag2_f_011593.7383So I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/.1594.7532
1381DCB_int_011596.4126How was that experience?1597.5555
1382DCB_se1_ag2_f_011597.7042It was fun.1598.2936
1384 1599.1188It was- Then that- It was like1601.4086 
1386 1601.9878<ts> the thirteenth grade.1603.2794 
1387DCB_int_011603.9201<laugh>1604.4604
1388DCB_se1_ag2_f_011604.4685Because everybody I knew from all over the place1607.1645
1390 1607.6860that wanted to better themselves, they went /RD-SCHOOL-3/.1609.9156 
1391DCB_int_011610.5358And it's- it's- Do you feel like it's a different world? Like, cause it's in the middle of like- Cause it's by- You went to the Van Ness like1616.0034
1393 1616.2802right [off Van-] mm-hm.1617.3705 
1394DCB_se1_ag2_f_011616.4134[Yeah, Uptown.]1617.0849
1396 1617.3360Mm-hm.1617.7153 
1397DCB_int_011618.0023Um,1618.5559
1399 1618.8480but it's kind of like this concrete jungle kind of thing. Like, it's this big-1622.2398 
1400DCB_se1_ag2_f_011622.5627Mm-hm.1622.9274
1401DCB_int_011622.8241In the middle [of just everything.]1624.1468
1402DCB_se1_ag2_f_011623.3469[Have you]- Have you ever seen the old Wood- You saw the old Woodson?1626.4478
1403 1626.8425It remind me- me of the old Woodson high school.1628.9837
1404DCB_int_011628.9785Mm-hm. I don't think I did- I may have and not even known [I s- saw it.]1632.5664
1405DCB_se1_ag2_f_011631.7873[Yeah. It looked like a-] a jail. They called it a jail.1634.4269
1406 1634.8152But it looked like uh, it looked like that.1636.6501
1408 1637.1114But yeah- That was- It was fun. It was1639.6639 
1410 1641.1746um-1641.8409 
1412 1642.1895Even going on the train, riding the train up there,1644.5369 
1414 1645.2494it was like, okay.1646.6435 
1416 1646.9549You can tell we about to hit Silver Spring or get close to Silver Spring because1650.5888 
1418 1650.9732it's like not a lot of black people on this train no more1653.3361 
1420 1654.2113going up the Van Ness.1655.2466 
1421DCB_int_011655.5439Mm-hm.1656.0308
1422DCB_se1_ag2_f_011656.6510But it was a good experience. I met a lot of good people.1658.6909
1424 1659.0651I met my son's dad there.1660.2388 
1426 1661.8111[Well actually], I met him through my brother, but we went to school together1664.5071 
1427DCB_int_011661.8111[?]1662.1698
1428DCB_se1_ag2_f_011665.0196too.1665.2554
1429DCB_int_011665.5321At /RD-SCHOOL-2/ or /RD-SCHOOL-1/1666.3881
1431 1666.5829or at [/RD-SCHOOL-3/?]1667.3402 
1432DCB_se1_ag2_f_011667.0070[/RD-SCHOOL-3/]1667.5093
1433DCB_int_011667.5811/RD-SCHOOL-3/. Okay. So you didn't know him in high school.1669.5134
1434DCB_se1_ag2_f_011669.6774Mm-mm.1670.0977
1435DCB_int_011670.2668Okay.1670.6256
1437 1671.1228But he knew your brother.1672.0556 
1438DCB_se1_ag2_f_011672.3734I met-1672.8859
1440 1673.0756I met him1673.9110 
1442 1674.7298right on- outside of my house.1676.3495 
1444 1676.7031My brother introduced me. He was one of my brother's friends at first.1679.1736 
1445DCB_int_011680.3614Got you.1680.7664
1447 1681.1098And1681.8888 
1449 1682.2425um, so what did you do? Like, what did you major in?1684.5438 
1450DCB_se1_ag2_f_011685.1538Criminal Justice.1685.8149
1451DCB_int_011686.2711Mm-hm.1686.8605
1453 1687.6025And now you not doing that at all.1689.1708 
1454DCB_se1_ag2_f_011689.4169Mm-hm.1689.7039
1456 1690.0576I'm still pursuing it.1691.1083 
1457DCB_int_011692.0616But on- Okay.1692.7535
1458DCB_se1_ag2_f_011692.8855Oh no, I'm not doing that at all. [Nothing- Not-] Nothing in my field, no.1696.1095
1459DCB_int_011694.1362[Not currently.]1694.8230
1460 1696.3196No.1696.5554
1461DCB_se1_ag2_f_011696.9142[/No./]1697.2678
1462DCB_int_011696.9142[Mm-mm.]1697.2678
1463 1697.9239But what do you ultimately do then, if you want to use that like-1701.2593
1465 1701.4746What's your ultimate [goal?]1702.7149 
1466DCB_se1_ag2_f_011702.2229[<sigh>]1702.7047
1467 1703.4581To be a youth advocate.1704.5601
1469 1706.1439Between a youth advocate1707.6187 
1471 1708.1825um-1708.7463 
1473 1709.3358Cause forensic science is1711.0784 
1475 1711.5448my minor.1712.0574 
1476DCB_int_011712.5289Mm. And that's a big-1714.1986
1477DCB_se1_ag2_f_011714.5368Yeah.1714.8341
1478DCB_int_011714.8136Yeah. It's a big deal.1715.9258
1479DCB_se1_ag2_f_011716.3102But um,1717.0176
1481 1717.2943my brother actually1718.4836 
1483 1718.6880inspired me to want to do youth advocacy because he got in trouble so much.1722.4390 
1485 1723.3257And he didn't really have-1724.7506 
1487 1725.0786What I noticed1725.8387 
1489 1725.9684him and his friends,1727.0917 
1491 1727.9528they didn't really have the resources to better themselves. Like, especially after they1732.0275 
1493 1732.1864got a record,1732.8783 
1495 1733.0565it's really nothing that1734.3635 
1497 1735.2450they [can] do for real.1736.5264 
1498DCB_int_011735.5269[Mm.]1735.7678
1499 1736.6955Yeah.1737.0441
1500DCB_se1_ag2_f_011738.8226But1739.1660
1502 1740.7024he inspired me.1741.3841 
1503DCB_int_011742.1836Mkay. So don't give up because1744.3158
1505 1744.6797just as it's just like him, I think it's you know, four or five more1748.1330 
1507 1748.8455that still need somebody to be the voice, [you know what I mean?] That are still in that age- that-1753.6211 
1508DCB_se1_ag2_f_011751.2852[Mm-hm.]1751.8439
1509DCB_int_011753.8210that age where they can change, and1755.6560
1511 1755.9122they wanna change.1756.8963 
1513 1757.2038Cause after a point,1757.9060 
1515 1758.1982you have to want it, and when you get older I think it's harder to want it.1761.3132 
1516DCB_se1_ag2_f_011761.3952Yeah.1761.7642
1518 1762.2102And that's- that's- And that's another like um,1764.4449 
1520 1764.6704dilemma is like okay,1765.9928 
1522 1766.6527now1767.1550 
1524 1767.4881you're not a youth1768.3851 
1526 1768.6824anymore. You're still young1769.8151 
1528 1770.2712but1770.6557 
1530 1771.0913is it adult advocacy. Like,1772.7417 
1532 1773.4016what are you doing?1774.1346 
1534 1774.8265Human development? Like what it- what do you- Where do you want to go? I was just having this conversation with my brother1779.1729 
1536 1780.3659about1780.7882 
1538 1780.8929this hood stuff1781.8164 
1540 1782.3853the other day.1782.8876 
1542 1783.5488Cause it's- it's frustrating.1784.6713 
1543DCB_int_011785.0198Mm, and- but it's real life.1786.1525
1544DCB_se1_ag2_f_011786.2589It's real life,1786.9047
1546 1787.1815and he really doesn't feel like he can go anywhere or do anything1790.0927 
1548 1790.5694because of where he's from1792.2044 
1550 1792.9054and what's the stigma attached to his name.1795.1606 
1551DCB_int_011796.7700Mm. And he doesn't want to leave.1798.1333
1552DCB_se1_ag2_f_011798.7830No, and I'm trying to get him to.1800.1105
1554 1801.0587Go down to North Carolina. Go ahead.1802.3401 
1555DCB_int_011802.8731[Mm-hm.]1803.2268
1556DCB_se1_ag2_f_011803.0218[His girlfriend] down there.1803.8675
1557 1804.4825I want him to go down there.1805.2257
1558DCB_int_011805.3064See? That might be a good- Just a fresh start.1807.5770
1560 1807.9614Do you think-1808.8328 
1562 1809.0942thinking about like, race. Cause I think1810.8419 
1564 1812.4757race is a big deal in this city- Just like we were joking about Chocolate City.1815.4023 
1566 1815.8636Do you think1816.7657 
1568 1817.7088the racial relations in this city are good,1821.2031 
1570 1821.6746they're not so good. Do you think there's still racism like, overtly?1826.0967 
1572 1826.5784You know, how do you feel1827.6702 
1574 1828.4851about blacks in this city1830.1253 
1576 1830.7352um,1831.2888 
1578 1831.6424and their rac- their relationship with whites,1833.9373 
1580 1834.1424their relationships with other races, other ethnicities.1837.7046 
1581DCB_se1_ag2_f_011838.2107Personally,1839.1589
1583 1839.4511um,1840.1635 
1585 1842.2035it's a culture block.1843.5156 
1587 1844.3562It's a culture block because1846.3999 
1589 1846.8356white people-1847.6147 
1591 1848.8294A lot of1849.4752 
1593 1850.2902home owners are- that are looking to buy-1853.3796 
1595 1853.9434Majority are not from1855.2709 
1597 1855.6348DC.1855.9884 
1599 1856.3882They're from out of town. They're fresh out of school,1858.4179 
1601 1858.7857and they're coming into the city.1860.5334 
1602DCB_int_011860.8102Mm-hm.1861.3023
1603DCB_se1_ag2_f_011861.3535And you got people who've been here, who's doing the right thing and1864.4749
1605 1865.2732just didn't get a good-1866.2317 
1607 1867.2260a good break in life,1868.5125 
1609 1868.7637and like,1869.1583 
1611 1870.7472oh, you coming in here. You take- trying to take everything1873.0524 
1613 1873.4727that we have that, you don't even know like, the depth of our story. This, that, and the third.1877.8447 
1615 1878.5046And then on the other /shoe/, they looking at like1880.1089 
1617 1881.1289you're not doing nothing with this city.1882.6563 
1619 1883.0304You're not valuing it,1884.3938 
1621 1884.8641like1885.2024 
1623 1885.4125y'all getting killed, and1886.9604 
1625 1887.6933you need to move up- Go ahead. Go /back down/ Maryland because we're coming and we're taking over everything.1892.6586 
1627 1894.7755But I do think it's a culture block.1896.1235 
1628DCB_int_011896.9692Hm.1897.1793
1630 1897.4138Do you see that in your daily interactions1899.2077 
1632 1899.5306or-1899.9612 
1633DCB_se1_ag2_f_011900.8479Not daily. I wouldn't say daily.1902.4009
1634DCB_int_011903.5490But just in certain things like,1905.1315
1636 1905.3314kind of-1905.6748 
1638 1905.8952Well gentrification we see it in the neighborhood- People moving out.1908.4835 
1639DCB_se1_ag2_f_011908.5040Mm-hm.1909.0576
1640DCB_int_011909.0320Um,1909.3856
1641 1909.5445but like, if you go to Walmart, or if you go to Safeway, you're not gonna feel1912.9568
1643 1913.7615like you being watched [or]-1915.1864 
1644DCB_se1_ag2_f_011914.9762[Mm-mm.] It's- it's actually- DC is so diverse.1918.3885
1645 1918.5782It's [becoming] so-1919.4188
1646DCB_int_011918.7166[Hm.]1919.0036
1647DCB_se1_ag2_f_011919.7980It's a lot of Hispanic and um,1922.7452
1649 1924.6660East African1925.6859 
1651 1927.4030cultures here. It's a lot of Ethiopians and Eritreans and1930.8421 
1653 1931.8762Spanish people, outside of white people.1933.9166 
1655 1936.1047I think it could be good,1937.1233 
1657 1937.2230but-1937.6988 
1658DCB_int_011938.8200We still got a ways to go.1939.7809
1659DCB_se1_ag2_f_011939.7835We still got a ways to go.1940.8496
1660DCB_int_011941.3981But I think it- I- I agree. Like, it is very diverse. That's the one thing-1945.3690
1661DCB_se1_ag2_f_011945.3485I like- I love th- I love that1946.6863
1662DCB_int_011946.7632Mm-hm.1947.0194
1663DCB_se1_ag2_f_011946.9938about it.1947.3526
1664DCB_int_011947.7780You can l-1948.5007
1666 1949.4643do- Like eighth street- If you just go down, you can1951.5286 
1668 1952.0309get Ethiopian food. You can get [Japanese-] I mean like, you can go down eighth street and have almost1957.6266 
1669DCB_se1_ag2_f_011954.3220[Thai food, yep.]1955.6853
1670DCB_int_011957.8470like fifteen [countries.]1959.1745
1671DCB_se1_ag2_f_011958.9131[And] eighth street did not used to look like that.1961.0197
1672DCB_int_011961.5681Mm.1961.8449
1674 1962.0448What was [it-]1962.5624 
1675DCB_se1_ag2_f_011962.3472[It] was so run down, and like-1964.4166
1676 1965.0983It's almost sad because1966.9537
1678 1967.3689I remember how1968.9321 
1680 1969.4344Columbia Heights used to look.1970.7260 
1682 1970.9093It used to look1971.5551 
1684 1971.9805run down and beat up.1973.1799 
1686 1973.5181And now they're building it up.1974.9276 
1688 1975.4915And1975.8605 
1690 1976.2295Columbia Heights, it was1977.3456 
1692 1977.5609majority Spanish people there,1978.8679 
1694 1979.0268and now they're- they have to move away becau- They can't afford the rent.1982.9119 
1695DCB_int_011983.4949Mm.1983.8793
1696DCB_se1_ag2_f_011983.9921You know? So, they're building that up even1986.6522
1698 1987.4210close to Silver Spring. It's like,1988.4871 
1700 1988.8100they c-1989.4251 
1702 1989.6301start at Silver Spring then moving their way down.1991.3715 
1704 1991.7918Or started on the outskirts,1993.4678 
1706 1993.6984like Virginia, and it just-1995.2002 
1708 1995.4872it's taken over.1996.2355 
1709DCB_int_011997.4029Yeah.1997.8847
1711 1998.2742What is your favorite or where are some of your favorite um, hang out spots?2002.2464 
1712DCB_se1_ag2_f_012004.1518<ts>2004.3517
1714 2005.9970Uptown.2006.3763 
1716 2006.5762<laugh>2007.2141 
1717DCB_int_012007.2141Like what?2007.5808
1718DCB_se1_ag2_f_012007.9396I used to2008.5649
1720 2008.8724like, hang out, like- What do you mean hang out?2010.8188 
1721DCB_int_012011.3775Like where do you- Like, okay. It's the weekend, where do you go?2013.4943
1723 2013.7301What'd you do for the fourth of July?2014.7859 
1724DCB_se1_ag2_f_012015.5291<ts> I was on /Clinton/.2016.3697
1726 2016.8348We went to a cook out.2017.3884 
1727DCB_int_012018.7261Which is totally not2019.7102
1729 2020.2125DC at all.2020.9455 
1730DCB_se1_ag2_f_012020.9352Mm-mm. It wasn't.2022.0115
1731 2022.1909I um-2022.9905
1733 2023.6094I didn't want to stay around2025.8083 
1735 2025.9979where I live2026.9051 
1737 2027.5202because I knew that it was gonna be a lot of people outside2030.4917 
1739 2031.3066doing a lot of-2032.0088 
1741 2032.2087Like,2032.5521 
1743 2032.8032<clears throat>2033.1672 
1745 2033.8232<ts>2034.0846 
1747 2034.3511even though2035.2891 
1749 2035.6428my a-2036.0733 
1751 2036.2668Uh, they just recently renovated my apartments. I'm like the first one in my apartment, but2040.6337 
1753 2041.6588outside of my apartment- outside of those bricks outside of my apartment, it's still a lot of2046.9419 
1755 2047.1161drug addicts,2047.9465 
1757 2048.1207junkies,2049.0074 
1759 2049.2932alcoholics,2050.2311 
1761 2050.8616kids running around with no parents.2052.9630 
1763 2053.6396And I have a son, so I d- I don't-2055.7769 
1765 2057.8361He doesn't- I don't want him to know2059.6146 
1767 2061.6904how to be that- that kid. I don't want him to get caught up in that-2064.4005 
1769 2064.7337that lifestyle.2065.4461 
1770DCB_int_012065.5794Mm-hm.2066.0612
1772 2067.5681So you decided to- to leave out. But if you're going out with your girls, where do y'all go? Like if you're just having a girl's night2072.4719 
1774 2072.9588or you know, you're hanging out-2074.4144 
1775DCB_se1_ag2_f_012074.5528We like to go downtown.2075.4498
1776DCB_int_012075.9252And do what?2076.3762
1777DCB_se1_ag2_f_012076.8887<ts>2077.0835
1779 2077.3090Uh, we'll go to2079.1850 
1781 2079.9589a lounge or2081.4965 
1783 2081.7067a bar- I don't drink so I'll go with them and just hang out with them2084.8627 
1785 2085.3752at the bar or something.2086.1492 
1786DCB_int_012087.5228Um,2088.1789
1788 2090.6583okay. So I know you s- You a DC native so you can tell me about this, go go.2095.2918 
1790 2096.2387I- I didn't know anything about go go until [I came-]2099.1397 
1791DCB_se1_ag2_f_012098.3299[I love] go go.2099.4319
1792 2099.8391I- I just went to- <laugh> I went to go see Backyard uh-2103.7362
1793DCB_int_012103.7502That is like2104.2771
1795 2104.5662one of the most popular ones [in fact.]2106.1865 
1796DCB_se1_ag2_f_012105.7972[On Friday.]2106.6132
1797 2107.0923[On this past Friday.]2107.9176
1798DCB_int_012107.3721[Where?]2107.7125
1799DCB_se1_ag2_f_012108.5565They were actually at2109.6709
1801 2110.8366/Saint E's/, you- The old /Saint E's/?2112.4593 
1803 2112.7426The old mental hospital?2113.8337 
1805 2114.0855Off MLK?2114.8735 
1806DCB_int_012117.0511[I /do/. Mm-hm.]2117.9510
1807DCB_se1_ag2_f_012117.0558[They redid it,]2117.7261
1808 2118.0478and so they made it into a pavilion.2119.6239
1810 2119.9503And it was my first time going. It was so nice.2121.7268 
1812 2123.3635It was really really nice.2124.3334 
1813DCB_int_012124.1990So tell me about go go. Like,2125.4933
1814 2126.3466your experience, do you remember your f- like,2128.2444
1816 2128.5102first go go? [Or?]2129.9091 
1817DCB_se1_ag2_f_012129.7039[My] first go go was at the Black Hole2131.7917
1818 2132.1601Uptown2132.6824
1820 2132.8595by six forty.2133.5077 
1822 2134.8832It's- If you ride past it now I think it's like a dental- a dental office or something.2138.0668 
1823DCB_int_012138.6077Okay, well I'm not gonna go there.2139.5730
1824DCB_se1_ag2_f_012139.9460Yeah, it's like a dental office. Um, but my first go go was to go see Backyard. I wasn't even old enough, but I still went.2146.3237
1825DCB_int_012146.5522<laugh>2147.0651
1826DCB_se1_ag2_f_012147.2749When I got old enough to hang with my sisters, one of my sisters took me.2150.4818
1828 2151.4564And I always listened to it. I've always heard go go, like it's a-2154.0723 
1830 2154.2297Since I can remember, it's always2156.3933 
1832 2156.5751been in2157.5590 
1834 2158.0346my ear.2158.6408 
1836 2159.6340My mom was just listening to it. Everybody around me listened to go go.2162.3326 
1838 2163.4377I love go go.2164.0253 
1839DCB_int_012164.7294Where do you think it like-2165.7412
1841 2166.0058What (snap)2166.5701 
1843 2166.7379makes it so2168.2300 
1845 2168.8456addictive? Like, what makes it like-2171.1181 
1847 2171.2477You know? Cause when you listen to it, it just kind of like, your body just starts to [move.]2174.6404 
1848DCB_se1_ag2_f_012174.3233[Move.]2174.6031
1849 2174.8689I think [it's the] congos!2175.7688
1850DCB_int_012175.0787[I-]2175.3678
1851 2175.9180[Is it the co-]2176.4403
1852DCB_se1_ag2_f_012175.9367[<laugh>]2176.4263
1853DCB_int_012177.1584[It's the-]2177.5127
1854DCB_se1_ag2_f_012177.1677[It's the] congos, tambourine (clapping)2179.0317
1855 2179.9316<ts>2180.0622
1857 2180.5425and I don't think it gets2182.4776 
1859 2182.9672enough exposure. A lot of people from out of town,2185.3534 
1861 2186.0249they hate it.2186.5798 
1862DCB_int_012187.1300Mm.2187.3398
1863DCB_se1_ag2_f_012187.4238They hate it. [And I think] it's be- it's- it's an a- it's an acquired2190.4127
1864DCB_int_012187.8434[I understand.]2188.5522
1865DCB_se1_ag2_f_012190.6353ear2190.9990
1867 2191.3254[because they] don't- They didn't grow up on it.2193.4051 
1868DCB_int_012191.3348[Mm-hm.]2191.7311
1869DCB_se1_ag2_f_012193.6895If I wasn't from here I probably wouldn't like it either. I don't know,2195.9091
1871 2196.7985but I used to go-2197.7917 
1873 2198.8689What made me stop,2200.0486 
1875 2200.3050besides the fact that I was getting older,2201.8251 
1877 2202.0117and I felt like I was getting too- too old to listen to go go.2204.5285 
1879 2205.1347Um,2205.7315 
1881 2207.6013it2208.0863 
1883 2208.4022instigated a lot of the hood beefs2210.1321 
1885 2210.4352that was going on.2211.0740 
1886DCB_int_012211.6476Why?2212.0020
1887DCB_se1_ag2_f_012212.7154Because a lot of the-2213.8951
1889 2214.1131the band members2215.1762 
1891 2216.6031were2217.0507 
1893 2217.6009with the gangs,2218.3330 
1895 2218.5149like they be with the hoods, and2220.3754 
1897 2221.9503it was-2222.9528 
1899 2223.1813it was a lot of2224.2631 
1901 2224.4916instigating. Like, the lyrics- They would do c- They would cover songs2228.0529 
1902DCB_int_012228.5331Mm-hm.2228.9901
1903DCB_se1_ag2_f_012229.0367from [artists.]2229.9413
1904DCB_int_012229.6336[Art-] Mm-hm.2230.3097
1905DCB_se1_ag2_f_012230.6361But2231.0744
1907 2231.9184they'll throw something2233.6145 
1909 2234.0715provoking in there.2235.1020 
1910DCB_int_012235.3958Mm. Mm-hm.2236.1838
1911DCB_se1_ag2_f_012236.6921Like2237.0651
1913 2239.0317<ts>2239.2042 
1915 2239.6985okay I know for a fact-2240.9202 
1917 2242.6268Where I'm from, my street-2243.8578 
1919 2244.4581It's not my street, but it's my street. It where I- The street that I grew up on.2247.1626 
1921 2248.7014One of the Backyard songs is,2249.9977 
1923 2250.2763Don't ride through the KDY2251.7731 
1925 2252.7849meaning2253.2792 
1927 2253.4844if you're from where we don't like you from, like you're from a hood that we don't really2258.4679 
1929 2259.6569use to much-2260.8133 
1931 2261.6107mesh with?2262.2215 
1932DCB_int_012262.4442Mm.2263.0690
1934 2263.3068Don't come [over.]2263.9969 
1935DCB_se1_ag2_f_012263.8430[Don't] co- don't co- Don't ride through here2265.6009
1936 2266.1512because something will happen to you.2267.2842
1937DCB_int_012269.9363And they do a lot- Like they just kind of2271.6149
1939 2271.9693throw that stuff in. [Like, cause they] do a lot- I- They-2274.1236 
1940DCB_se1_ag2_f_012272.7247[Yeah.]2273.1304
1941DCB_int_012274.5794They do a lot of covers, but they do some original stuff,2276.8782
1942DCB_se1_ag2_f_012276.9108They do some [original stuff.]2278.0020
1943DCB_int_012277.4331[and a lot of that]2278.0719
1944 2278.3144has like2279.0698
1946 2279.7086undertones about like, their neighborhoods and-2281.9549 
1947DCB_se1_ag2_f_012282.0062[Mm-hm.]2282.4119
1948DCB_int_012282.2161[and I know] they do like a lot of shoutouts or what do they- They don't call them shoutouts. What do they call [them?]2285.6246
1949DCB_se1_ag2_f_012285.5314[They] do. They put 'em on-2286.4033
1950 2286.5281[Put you on.]2286.9151
1951DCB_int_012286.5374[I know.] Put you on. [That's the o-] Mm-hm.2288.5425
1952DCB_se1_ag2_f_012287.5633[Mm-hm.]2288.0668
1953DCB_int_012288.7943Like when they,2289.3585
1955 2289.7082like, oh I see you whatever [whatever.]2292.3847 
1956DCB_se1_ag2_f_012291.5687[Mm-hm.]2292.2588
1957DCB_int_012292.7706Throw it up, whatever. [Yup.]2293.9783
1958DCB_se1_ag2_f_012293.4933[Yup.]2293.9549
1959 2294.2627A hood sign, people getting it with shirts. It- it was- The go go was-2298.9571
1961 2300.1461It was like an adrenaline rush,2301.6382 
1963 2302.7713and I say was because at the time,2304.6225 
1965 2305.5726when I was younger-2306.4585 
1967 2306.8782Cause go go, it kind of got a little2308.5802 
1969 2309.3915sloppy. It wasn't as original and2311.8663 
1971 2312.1135not as good as it used to be.2313.8527 
1973 2314.8693And I think that came with the bounce beat.2316.4826 
1974DCB_int_012316.9897What's bounce beat?2317.8057
1975DCB_se1_ag2_f_012318.4072It's2318.7803
1977 2319.3678extra loud, extra fast.2320.8086 
1978DCB_int_012322.3742Mm,2322.8871
1980 2323.1389so you lose some of the kind of-2324.2860 
1981DCB_se1_ag2_f_012324.6171It's-2324.9108
1983 2325.0740It's-2325.5870 
1985 2325.6849What do you call it? I'm not a m-2327.0231 
1987 2327.4754really a music person.2328.5759 
1988DCB_int_012328.0117/I don't know./2328.5992
1989DCB_se1_ag2_f_012328.9104It's on the keyboard.2329.9456
1991 2330.6357They make up the beats on the keyboard instead of actually playing them.2333.0511 
1992DCB_int_012333.3402Oh, so it's kind of like a2334.9851
1994 2335.7451fabrica- It ain't real, like it's just we- we made it2338.7900 
1995DCB_se1_ag2_f_012338.8413[Yeah.]2339.3262
1996DCB_int_012338.9858[on this] little- And we [pushing a] preset [button.]2341.3441
1997DCB_se1_ag2_f_012339.9126[And it's-]2340.3789
1999 2341.0317[Right.]2341.3208 
2000 2341.5446And it's fast and it- it's loud,2344.1139
2002 2344.7107but2344.9765 
2004 2346.3369it was fun. The go gos used to be fun.2347.9036 
2006 2349.0461[I got] so many fights at the go go.2350.4449 
2007DCB_int_012349.0507[/I'm-/]2349.3958
2008 2351.5267So do you feel like it like, provoked people to like-2353.7917
2010 2353.9783Besides [even the] lyrics and stuff, but just2356.2817 
2011DCB_se1_ag2_f_012354.4818[Fight.]2354.8782
2012DCB_int_012356.6967the atmosphere, do you feel like that-2358.5386
2013DCB_se1_ag2_f_012358.7519It was awful. Mm-hm.2359.8897
2014DCB_int_012360.4679And that pushed people to like fight [and- Cause] I remember- I've been to a couple. They were, you know- It was chill. [It was]2366.0529
2015DCB_se1_ag2_f_012362.2817[Yeah.]2362.7294
2017 2365.7731[It was] the older- older bands though?2367.1953 
2018DCB_int_012367.9880<ts> No, I went to um,2370.2541
2020 2370.6447I think one was What.2371.6938 
2022 2372.1974What band.2372.8829 
2023DCB_se1_ag2_f_012373.1160Okay that's a older band.2373.9367
2024DCB_int_012374.0206Oh, okay. And then, I did go-2375.9650
2026 2376.1003Did I see Backyard?2377.1809 
2028 2377.6705I feel like I've [seen /them/.]2379.0647 
2029DCB_se1_ag2_f_012378.3933[See Backyard], What Band, Lissen Band, Familiar Faces,2381.8065
2030DCB_int_012381.0418[Northeast]2382.0676
2031DCB_se1_ag2_f_012382.0303Groovers, those are older [bands.]2383.8177
2032DCB_int_012383.4560[Oh] then okay yes. I'm the older [crowd.]2385.3398
2033DCB_se1_ag2_f_012385.1393[So] like TCB,2386.6454
2034 2386.7760CCB, UCB,2388.2122
2036 2388.5561MLB, TLB, those [are younger-]2390.7709 
2037DCB_int_012389.9829[All the B's.]2390.9948
2038DCB_se1_ag2_f_012391.2419Yeah.2391.5170
2040 2391.6569<laugh> Those are the younger,2394.0303 
2042 2395.1203more violent driven bands.2397.0367 
2043DCB_int_012397.6895Oh, no, I'm not- mm-mm.2398.8244
2044DCB_se1_ag2_f_012398.8413Yeah.2399.2236
2045DCB_int_012399.4195Mm-mm.2399.8391
2047 2400.3509Mkay.2400.8731 
2049 2401.0317Wow.2401.4793 
2051 2401.9689Um, do you feel like there are other things that are- Cause2404.0719 
2053 2404.2398like you said, go go is very unique to DC, are there other things that are unique to DC that like2408.1881 
2055 2408.3140you say. You know, if I went to2410.3050 
2057 2410.6221even Maryland- Maybe not so much Maryland or Virginia but2413.4001 
2059 2413.6239like North Carolina or California, I would not see this.2416.6035 
2061 2416.9625What's some other things that are like unique to DC?2419.0270 
2062DCB_se1_ag2_f_012419.1809Mm, probably candy ladies.2421.1253
2063DCB_int_012422.1045What?2422.4263
2064DCB_se1_ag2_f_012422.9345Candy lady's this-2423.8998
2066 2424.6307sell the /half/ sausage and the2426.4026 
2068 2427.2279uh,2427.7455 
2070 2428.2025the pickled egg and the sunflower [seeds.]2430.4640 
2071DCB_int_012429.5267[You know we had- we had] a- Okay, that's what you call her.2431.6425
2072 2431.7871We had one of those, but-2433.3631
2073DCB_se1_ag2_f_012433.3585The candy lady /will/ live next door to you. She sells cigarettes. [She sell] drugs. She'll sell beer. She sell- <laugh>.2439.0414
2074DCB_int_012435.9406[Mm-hm.]2436.4208
2075 2440.2864When I went to FBR one day, I was on some street,2443.4374
2077 2443.8430and the ice cream truck2445.2232 
2079 2446.1791was selling-2446.8086 
2080DCB_se1_ag2_f_012446.7713Weave?2447.2516
2081DCB_int_012448.1049I- I don't know what they [were selling.] I did not stop, but I saw people coming from the ice cream truck with2452.3563
2082DCB_se1_ag2_f_012449.1697[Oh.]2449.3562
2083DCB_int_012452.9828lots of things that were not ice cream.2454.7436
2084DCB_se1_ag2_f_012454.7087See?2455.0111
2085DCB_int_012455.2536Mm.2455.5800
2087 2456.1489Okay, yes. That may be a2457.8788 
2089 2458.2740<clears throat> you know, it's a2459.4257 
2091 2459.9060business.2460.5588 
2092DCB_se1_ag2_f_012460.9738Hm.2461.2209
2093DCB_int_012461.4401Portable.2461.9390
2094DCB_se1_ag2_f_012462.4007Yeah.2462.7550
2096 2463.0628I guess.2463.5058 
2097DCB_int_012463.5104Anything else?2464.4150
2098DCB_se1_ag2_f_012465.1693<clears throat>2465.9760
2100 2466.0972Hm.2466.6241 
2101DCB_int_012466.7733One /RD-NAME-3/ told me was mumbo sauce, like [that's a-]2469.3845
2102DCB_se1_ag2_f_012468.9462[Oh yeah, mumbo] Sa- I don't like mumbo sauce.2470.5549
2103DCB_int_012471.1833I've grown to like it.2472.1019
2104DCB_se1_ag2_f_012472.1065You [do?]2472.4422
2105DCB_int_012472.2790[It's] a little sweet though. I have to kind of2473.7385
2106DCB_se1_ag2_f_012473.8411It- [it depends on where you] get it from.2475.2540
2107DCB_int_012474.1349[temper it down.]2474.8109
2108 2475.3985[Mm.]2475.9441
2109DCB_se1_ag2_f_012475.5757[And I think] that's why I couldn't get-2476.7181
2110 2476.8569get with it because-2477.8501
2111DCB_int_012477.7408It wasn't consistent?2478.4422
2112DCB_se1_ag2_f_012478.9925Mm-mm.2479.4215
2114 2479.7385I think the best mumbo sauce I- I'm2481.1887 
2116 2482.0140gonna tell you Uptown, but it was Uptown downtown.2483.8780 
2117DCB_int_012484.9552Like it was mumbo sauce geographic2486.6664
2119 2487.2260discrimination here?2488.0000 
2120DCB_se1_ag2_f_012488.0513Yeah, cause one- some of 'em are too sweet and some of 'em too spicy.2490.9925
2121DCB_int_012491.6220Yes! That's the thing- you got to find the right mix, so /with the s-/ too sweet ones, I add hot sauce.2496.3024
2122DCB_se1_ag2_f_012496.2880Yeah.2496.6148
2123DCB_int_012496.6894Mm-hm.2496.9971
2124DCB_se1_ag2_f_012496.9039See I love hot sauce, [but I] don't like-2498.6198
2125DCB_int_012497.7852[Me too.]2498.1349
2126DCB_se1_ag2_f_012499.0488I don't like nothing sweet on my chicken or my french fries.2501.5376
2127DCB_int_012502.6567Okay so, no. Anything else? Obviously mumbo sauce [is not one of your] favorites.2506.6622
2128DCB_se1_ag2_f_012505.3752[Hm.]2506.0327
2130 2506.5771What else? I'm trying to think. I can't think right now.2508.6241 
2131 2509.5986Mumbo sauce, um, (whispered)2510.8576
2133 2511.3939I don't know. (whispered)2512.1492 
2135 2514.5542I'm'a come back to that. I'm still thinking.2516.1489 
2136DCB_int_012516.2934One other thing. The red lipstick.2517.8835
2138 2518.5957What's-2519.1273 
2140 2519.8034That's a big deal.2520.6008 
2141DCB_se1_ag2_f_012520.7034Really?2521.0811
2142DCB_int_012521.8784I mean2522.4380
2144 2523.0768like I don't see that as much2524.9360 
2146 2525.7381like when I travel,2526.6707 
2148 2526.9552but when I'm in DC-2527.8365 
2149DCB_se1_ag2_f_012528.2841You see it all the time?2529.0255
2150DCB_int_012530.0047You don't?2530.4337
2151DCB_se1_ag2_f_012530.4279I don't know- I- I don't-2531.6122
2152 2532.1392The lipstick,2533.1930
2154 2534.5126it's gotten bad.2535.6783 
2156 2536.0420Red in particular, I don't know, but2538.5029 
2158 2538.8153the light colored lipstick, the [chalk],2540.4206 
2159DCB_int_012540.0696[The] white looking-2541.6596
2160DCB_se1_ag2_f_012541.9068powdered donut color [lipstick. Uh-uh.]2544.5728
2161DCB_int_012543.2719[<laugh>]2544.5681
2162DCB_se1_ag2_f_012545.4308It's awful.2546.0836
2164 2547.2120What else do we do here that I don't really see nobody else doing?2549.7475 
2166 2552.5126/I don't know./ (I don't know intonation)2553.0441 
2167DCB_int_012553.2353What's the most ratchet thing you think you've seen?2555.5843
2169 2556.7733Cause I know you-2557.4448 
2171 2557.7805you- I always have to go to you for my little source of ratchetness2560.3812 
2173 2560.5025What's a- what's a pretty ratchet2562.1392 
2175 2563.0764thing you've seen in DC that you were like, really people? Let's get it together.2567.0667 
2176DCB_se1_ag2_f_012568.2697Mm.2568.8339
2178 2569.6033That's so much, Minnie.2570.5545 
2179DCB_int_012570.9649<laugh> Give me two or three.2572.2504
2180DCB_se1_ag2_f_012572.2845Okay.2572.7648
2182 2573.3418Um,2575.1557 
2184 2577.0441<ts>2577.2353 
2186 2578.0793I recently saw this girl that I know.2580.9645 
2188 2582.3400She2583.0162 
2190 2583.3146chased her daughter's dad in a car,2586.0272 
2192 2586.3863and he was in a car.2587.3002 
2194 2588.3867She got pulled over2589.7203 
2196 2590.9828because the police caught her,2592.0785 
2198 2593.1090and she got a five hundred dollar ticket,2595.0954 
2200 2596.4512and her daughter was in the backseat,2597.8687 
2202 2598.3863not in the carseat. And her daughter's not like- not even one.2600.7084 
2204 2601.5337Um,2602.1632 
2206 2603.1879so after she got the five hundred dollar ticket,2605.3049 
2208 2605.7758she dropped her daughter off like with a crackhead2608.3078 
2210 2608.8802to go2609.2439 
2212 2609.8081chase the baby daddy.2610.7826 
2213DCB_int_012613.3752Mm.2613.7762
2214DCB_se1_ag2_f_012614.1073Yeah.2614.4244
2215DCB_int_012615.2858Mkay, I hoped they worked2616.2837
2217 2616.6567through some [things.]2617.9763 
2218DCB_se1_ag2_f_012617.5940[Mm-mm-mm.]2618.6291
2219DCB_int_012618.7084Um,2619.4731
2220DCB_se1_ag2_f_012621.0714The most ratchet (whispered).2622.0319
2222 2622.6101<ts>2622.7826 
2224 2623.3562I don't [know.]2623.8271 
2225DCB_int_012623.6220[That's] pretty ratchet.2624.3121
2226DCB_se1_ag2_f_012624.5126[That is ratchet.]2625.1794
2227DCB_int_012624.5359[But let's take it] on the flip side. What do you think has been one of the like2627.1226
2228 2627.5050coolest,2628.2930
2230 2628.6661most amazing things that you've seen in DC that makes it different from other places? You know what I mean? Because like, each city has it's own [personality.]2635.3235 
2231DCB_se1_ag2_f_012634.6614[<clears throat>]2635.3608
2232DCB_int_012635.7572It's own pulse. It's own heartbeat. Like, what do you feel like has been something j- just amazing2639.9806
2234 2640.3117that you don't think you would have seen somewhere else?2641.9111 
2235DCB_se1_ag2_f_012642.2048<ts>2642.4333
2237 2643.9348Probably2644.7787 
2239 2646.4982all of2647.8784 
2241 2648.6478the politicians that come in and out of DC.2650.4372 
2242DCB_int_012651.4211Really?2651.7754
2243DCB_se1_ag2_f_012651.8734Mm-hm.2652.2744
2245 2653.0764And it's- it's so- it's so- It's funny and it's sad that2656.4337 
2247 2657.4490people from2658.4842 
2249 2658.8806DC, majority of the people from DC,2661.1794 
2251 2661.6736<clears throat>2662.3498 
2253 2663.1553have2663.4584 
2255 2663.8407never been downtown on the mall to see2666.7457 
2257 2667.5757anything.2668.0840 
2259 2668.2647They don't know,2668.9408 
2261 2669.2066and p-2669.7288 
2263 2670.0412and people who aren't from here, that's what they know. That's what they identify DC with.2674.1492 
2265 2674.7776But DC is a whole backstory, and2676.3770 
2267 2676.9365that's why I said that it was kind of sad that it's changing because2680.3125 
2269 2682.1765nobody's gonna get to see the people2684.1862 
2271 2684.4846of DC, only the people that moved here and2687.5278 
2273 2687.7023settled here.2688.3863 
2274DCB_int_012689.3422Hm.2689.7432
2276 2691.1001Yup.2691.4125 
2277DCB_se1_ag2_f_012691.4685Kind of sucks.2692.2285
2278DCB_int_012692.5025That's the one thing, I remember-2693.8221
2280 2694.1112It's so funny when you say the- the monuments and stuff cause I remember every time I would go home2698.1166 
2282 2698.7823and come back like for school,2700.0832 
2284 2700.5542I would always2701.4914 
2286 2701.7012get a window seat2702.7224 
2287DCB_se1_ag2_f_012703.2680<laugh>2703.7156
2288DCB_int_012703.6223so I could fly- When I flew into DC I could see the monu- I just thought it was beautiful [cause no] other place where you fly in and see that skyline. [Like nowhere.]2711.5190
2289DCB_se1_ag2_f_012707.4448[Mm-hm.]2708.1582
2291 2710.3812[Yeah.]2710.7263 
2293 2710.9688[No- /Nope/.]2711.7008 
2294DCB_int_012712.0506Um, I just thought it was the most beautiful th- Like every time, I don't care how many times I did it- I was always in awe.2716.5689
2296 2716.8895Like, [always.] I remember like I used to go jogging2719.5847 
2297DCB_se1_ag2_f_012717.0853[<laugh>]2717.8128
2298DCB_int_012720.1582at2720.4706
2300 2720.7784the Washington Monument. Because there's no other- Where else am I gonna go jogging with Lincoln and Washington? [You know what I mean?]2726.0416 
2301DCB_se1_ag2_f_012725.0717[Yeah, yeah.] It's- it's-2726.6012
2302 2727.6084And I think that that's- that's why a lot of people are coming here.2729.9666
2304 2730.7174It's a beautiful city.2731.7479 
2306 2732.8716It's a really beautiful city, and now2734.7135 
2308 2735.3791it sucks that2736.5728 
2310 2738.2608you're building it up now2740.2005 
2312 2741.8267opposed to2742.7360 
2314 2744.2141back then.2744.7224 
2316 2744.9555DC used to be so rundown.2746.1492 
2317DCB_int_012746.8755Hm.2747.1180
2318DCB_se1_ag2_f_012747.2346So rundown,2748.2790
2320 2748.5868like no one- nobody used to want to live here at all.2750.7084 
2322 2750.9789Oh you from DC?2751.9394 
2324 2752.3311You dirty.2752.9360 
2326 2753.5749You ghetto.2754.2138 
2328 2754.4562You from DC.2755.0857 
2330 2755.2443That's wh-2755.5567 
2332 2755.7106th-2755.8691 
2334 2756.2002Growing up, that's all I heard.2757.2446 
2335DCB_int_012759.7381But now DC is [like]2761.3468
2336DCB_se1_ag2_f_012761.1836[DC] is it.2761.9390
2337DCB_int_012762.0696[Yeah.]2762.4100
2338DCB_se1_ag2_f_012762.2748[Like] my- all my friends from like all over2764.4430
2339 2764.9501the country-2765.6216
2341 2766.1158<ts> you live in DC, you're so lucky. You get to see everything.2769.5524 
2343 2769.9767I don't, but okay.2771.4807 
2344DCB_int_012771.3605<laugh> You're like, not really.2773.3375
2345DCB_se1_ag2_f_012773.3049Not really.2773.9484