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1DCB_int_010.4254And,1.0269
3 1.2741were you born and grew up in DC?2.9387 
4DCB_se1_ag3_f_013.0786Born and raised.3.9786
5DCB_int_014.6862What neighborhoods?5.4462
6DCB_se1_ag3_f_015.7260Uh,6.8311
8 7.0083I was right th-7.6937 
10 7.8661there off of uh, where Benning Road turns into Southern Avenue.11.0266 
12 11.3436Hillside Road.12.4114 
13DCB_int_0112.7099Mm-hm.13.2554
14DCB_se1_ag3_f_0113.3254That area.14.0854
15DCB_int_0114.1647Does it have a specific name- I don't really- It's16.1732
16DCB_se1_ag3_f_0116.3178I don't [think it- No, it's-]`18.0944
17DCB_int_0116.5976[/that area./]17.7773
18DCB_se1_ag3_f_0118.3042It- They usually try to incorporated all of that with Benning [Heights.]22.2537
19DCB_int_0121.5775[Heights.]22.2816
20DCB_se1_ag3_f_0122.7048[S- And so- ]23.8396
21DCB_int_0122.7421[Oh, but] Benning Heights [is not that far] [down]25.9595
22DCB_se1_ag3_f_0124.3383[/Since we're fr-/]25.0092
24 25.2404[down-]26.0020 
25 26.4010So, I don't [what they call our area.]28.7425
26DCB_int_0127.3825[Okay, we'll call it Benning Heights], [but you on the Northeast] side, [right?]30.6012
27DCB_se1_ag3_f_0129.2185[<clears throat>]29.7761
29 30.2975[No, I'm in]30.7463 
30 30.8460[on the DC-] on the Southeast [side.]32.3511
31DCB_int_0130.9639[You on the S-]31.4082
33 31.9567[You on the] Southeast side. Okay.33.1807 
34DCB_se1_ag3_f_0133.3621Where you walk across the street and Maryland is [on the other side.]36.1569
35DCB_int_0135.3319[Oh, the other side.] Okay, so you're down by um,37.8434
36DCB_se1_ag3_f_0137.8479You know where um,38.7818
38 39.0833it used to be called Antoinette Gardens when we were coming up, but it's called Highline Ridge now?42.8052 
40 43.4671The apartment complex that [sit on the-]45.2417 
41DCB_int_0144.8090[And it's a] high rise.46.0353
42DCB_se1_ag3_f_0146.4070Not necessarily a high rise,48.2521
44 48.5785but48.9095 
46 49.2903say for instance you're going up Benning Road.50.7726 
47DCB_int_0150.7863Mm-hm.51.1146
48DCB_se1_ag3_f_0151.1127You know where Benning Road turns into Southern Avenue, [where you] bare right like you going up the hill?54.6919
49DCB_int_0152.8864[Mm-hm.]53.2384
51 54.6511Mm-hm.55.0953 
52DCB_se1_ag3_f_0155.2495Soon as you bare right,56.4644
54 56.6186make that very first right hand turn. That's Easy Place.59.4860 
55DCB_int_0160.0935Oh, okay.60.8913
56DCB_se1_ag3_f_0160.9095It's a hidden street. <laugh>62.6684
57DCB_int_0162.7727No, I know because um, one of my friends lives, if you keep going down Southern, right where you cross the line?67.7346
58DCB_se1_ag3_f_0167.7300Mm-hm.68.0972
59DCB_int_0168.0519There's like a Chinese restaurant or some rib place?71.1958
60DCB_se1_ag3_f_0171.2548Johnny Boys?72.2431
61DCB_int_0172.2340Yes, [she lives right] next door to that. That-74.4418
62DCB_se1_ag3_f_0172.5740[Okay.]73.1815
63 74.6276[Okay, in that apartment complex. That's Penn] Southern.77.1188
64DCB_int_0174.7500[the apartment complex right there-]76.5476
66 77.1142Mm-hm.77.6628 
67DCB_se1_ag3_f_0177.6356[<laugh>]78.7236
68DCB_int_0177.8895[Okay so you up] on this side? [So you're not] very far from here at all. What, like, [five, ten- five minutes] if that?83.2865
69DCB_se1_ag3_f_0179.4490[Yes.]79.9159
71 80.7636[No, not at all.]81.8109 
73 82.2348[Yes.]82.6700 
74DCB_int_0183.6719[Um,]84.1932
75DCB_se1_ag3_f_0183.6991[Yes.]84.1660
76DCB_int_0184.5604alright.84.8868
78 85.3447And where'd you go to school?86.6820 
79DCB_se1_ag3_f_0187.0175I went-87.5479
81 87.8676Elementary school I went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/.89.6356 
82DCB_int_0189.7580Mm-hm.90.1161
83DCB_se1_ag3_f_0190.4063And that's over on New Jersey Avenue, Northwest.92.5642
84DCB_int_0192.8588I93.2079
86 93.6046used to tutor there.94.7380 
87DCB_se1_ag3_f_0194.7380<laugh> And high school, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and /RD-SCHOOL-5/.99.9582
88DCB_int_01104.8362Perfect.105.5071
90 105.7361And what do you do now?106.4478 
91DCB_se1_ag3_f_01107.7580My field of choice is customer service rep.110.7500
93 111.2079I'm a customer service rep.112.6292 
94DCB_int_01113.8985Perfect (really quietly).114.5740
96 115.8796And where your mother and father born here?117.7927 
97DCB_se1_ag3_f_01118.3572No, my dad was born and raised in New York,121.5170
98DCB_int_01121.4943Hm.121.7255
99DCB_se1_ag3_f_01121.8887the Bronx.122.5551
100DCB_int_01122.6956Oh.123.0583
102 123.3167Mm-hm.123.7247 
103DCB_se1_ag3_f_01123.9582And my mom was born and raised in Petersburg, Virginia.127.4263
104DCB_int_01129.8222And what do they do?130.5113
105DCB_se1_ag3_f_01131.4905Well my mom,132.3111
107 132.7055before she passed, she was um,134.8634 
109 135.9356quality assurance coordinator137.6311 
110DCB_int_01137.7625Mm-hm.138.1796
111DCB_se1_ag3_f_01138.2975for JB Johnson Nursing Home.140.2290
113 141.7180And my dad is a retired postal service worker.145.4354 
114DCB_int_01147.3145Perfect.147.7316
116 147.9628How did-148.2574 
118 148.4478How did you guys end up here?149.6492 
119DCB_se1_ag3_f_01150.5785My-150.8777
121 151.2132Okay.151.6258 
123 151.8343[<laugh>]154.2393 
124DCB_int_01152.8271[Uh-oh. It's sound like it's a story.] And that's what this whole thing is about. [When I ask] you questions, and it makes you think of a story,157.5260
125DCB_se1_ag3_f_01155.3591[Okay.]155.9121
126DCB_int_01157.8751please feel free to tell it.158.8316
127DCB_se1_ag3_f_01158.7863Mm-hm. This is the story that I got. [<laugh>]161.2864
128DCB_int_01160.5119[<laugh>]161.2864
129 161.5132Now, if it's true or not-162.6873
130DCB_se1_ag3_f_01162.7009My dad and my mom's cousin were in the military together.166.7924
132 167.4679And168.2703 
134 168.6465he- my dad went to Norfolk170.8271 
136 171.5593for a weekend or something with my mom's cousin.174.1116 
138 174.5377And they met then.175.5940 
140 176.1924How they ended up in Petersburg was because DC- I mean how they ended up in DC was DC181.1498 
142 181.3719is almost like a middle point between New York and Petersburg.184.9012 
143DCB_int_01185.4996Oh.186.2385
144DCB_se1_ag3_f_01186.2793So they made it convenient for both [of 'em.]188.7727
145DCB_int_01188.4644[So he was] in the Navy?189.3439
146DCB_se1_ag3_f_01189.8358No, he was in the Army.190.7244
147DCB_int_01190.9012[He was in the Army.]191.4679
148DCB_se1_ag3_f_01190.9148[Airborne], [jumping out of] planes.192.5423
149DCB_int_01191.6175[Oh, okay.]192.0572
150 192.6737Oh. Mm-mm. [I'm good, thank you]195.9151
151DCB_se1_ag3_f_01193.6711[<laugh>]195.9500
152DCB_int_01196.0444I'm okay with that.196.9782
154 197.2865Um,197.8305 
156 198.1433so do you remember your childhood home?200.2196 
157DCB_se1_ag3_f_01200.8452We still live in my childhood [home.]202.5158
158DCB_int_01202.3164[Oh], so this- Okay. So tell me about that neighborhood and how have you seen that neighborhood change, like over the last twenty years or so?208.4297
159DCB_se1_ag3_f_01208.5022Okay. Well, when we were coming up, the neighborhood was full of kids.212.0474
160DCB_int_01212.2559Mm.212.3828
161DCB_se1_ag3_f_01212.7092We were those kids that could go outside-215.4044
163 215.5631I mean play, rip and run- And this is218.0111 
165 218.4599my childhood, so219.5298 
167 220.1169we had not a care in the world.221.6265 
169 221.9212Where versus now, you know, a lot of kids have a lot of cares that-224.4282 
171 225.0062So we would go out,225.8358 
173 226.0398play. All of us that grew up together are still really really close. We [consider] each other family.231.9764 
174DCB_int_01230.4662[Mm.]230.9027
175DCB_se1_ag3_f_01232.5974And over the last couple of years,235.0137
177 235.6983we've seen a lot of the residents that had been there since the early seventies, they've either passed on241.3900 
179 241.7346or they've gotten older and [their] kids are back in the house.244.5476 
180DCB_int_01243.0334[Mm.]243.2873
181DCB_se1_ag3_f_01245.0916Um, the newest people on our block actually just moved in249.7701
183 250.5929maybe about three weeks ago.251.7807 
184DCB_int_01252.2793Hm.252.6511
185DCB_se1_ag3_f_01253.0545Um, whereas though, prior to then,255.1445
187 255.8358um,256.4524 
189 256.8740the newest neighbors have been there f- within the last five years.259.8751 
191 260.5052So there- Th- More kids are coming back to the [neighborhood slowly] but surely.264.2567 
192DCB_int_01262.5612[/Mm-hm./]263.2049
193DCB_se1_ag3_f_01264.7327Whereas though,265.3447
195 265.6258at one point in time, as we grew up,267.4663 
197 267.9038there weren't any more kids there.269.2502 
198DCB_int_01269.4271Oh cause y'all were the- [y'all were the kids]271.9703
199DCB_se1_ag3_f_01270.2068[We were the kids], yeah.272.0066
200 272.2423[So.]272.6503
201DCB_int_01272.4962[And] how many-273.1626
202 273.4369How- How do you feel like as a ne- Are you s- guys still close knit, or do you feel like with278.4418
204 278.6820some of the newer people coming in, it's-280.5113 
206 280.6700the neighborhood is-281.5204 
207DCB_se1_ag3_f_01281.5298They come in and they end up blending [right with] the neighborhood.284.5415
208DCB_int_01283.2767[Right in.]283.7572
209 284.9132Cool.285.4255
210DCB_se1_ag3_f_01285.4595Whereas though when were coming- When we were like,287.3409
212 287.5767in our teens, we would do block parties. You know, it was- It's almost like-291.6885 
214 292.4614Where we live it's Easy Place, and then we get to the end of Easy Place,296.2287 
216 296.6684Forty Sixth Street runs [there, so] that was part of our community.300.4335 
217DCB_int_01298.4116[Mm-hm.]298.8241
218DCB_se1_ag3_f_01300.6919And then you go up, and if you turn l- left or right, that's Reed Terrace and that was part of our community. So they had a306.6828
220 307.1498community308.3511 
222 309.6273organization called Easy Place Community Square,312.1796 
224 313.0953where we incorporated and got everybody out, and316.3209 
226 316.6292the neighbors will decorate their front yards. We would319.4762 
228 319.8207block off the street, have a good time. DJ, ponies, you name it, we had it.324.1887 
230 324.6103And that was up until, I wanna say,327.3711 
232 327.6908<ts> <ts>328.1169 
234 328.6292they stopped doing it329.6855 
236 330.2068early330.6783 
238 330.9140two thousand.332.1018 
239DCB_int_01332.6322Why?332.8906
240DCB_se1_ag3_f_01333.4187Oh, well nobody knows.334.6790
242 334.9284I guess people got tired of336.0527 
244 336.6420soliciting help and338.0202 
246 338.2514you know, some of the dynamics changed where neighbors just341.0644 
248 341.4679were getting older and didn't want to do it anymore.343.4444 
249DCB_int_01344.2287[Do you-]344.5778
250DCB_se1_ag3_f_01344.2514[Um-]344.5460
251DCB_int_01344.9405Do you feel like,346.4750
253 347.4089especially that neighborhood, because gentrification is happening all over [DC], and it's351.8902 
254DCB_se1_ag3_f_01350.9994[Right.]351.4663
255DCB_int_01352.0897starting to push its way over this way. Do you feel like that is effecting your neighborhood?356.6775
256DCB_se1_ag3_f_01357.0130No, because all of the residents that are still there are staying firmly in-361.7255
258 362.6276staying right in DC.363.9500 
259DCB_int_01364.2574Really?364.5793
260DCB_se1_ag3_f_01364.5929And365.2321
262 365.7263it's home.366.2657 
264 366.7100[It's] no way that they gonna push us out.368.5732 
265DCB_int_01366.7372[Mm-hm.]367.0001
266DCB_se1_ag3_f_01368.7614That's why369.4868
268 369.7860even now,370.6836 
270 371.0145my dad still lives in our h- in the house.372.6919 
272 373.2132But373.5487 
274 373.7572I refuse to leave DC.375.1399 
275DCB_int_01375.8404Mm.376.0670
276DCB_se1_ag3_f_01375.9673Because you're not gonna push [me] out of my city <laugh>. [And that's what] they're trying to do. They're trying to push us out381.0085
277DCB_int_01377.1784[Hm.]377.3928
279 378.6353[/that's right/]379.2586 
280DCB_se1_ag3_f_01381.4913to PG County, Charles County.383.5812
282 383.9892I refuse to go. I- I- I tried Maryland.386.7772 
284 387.9265It's nothing like DC.388.8385 
286 388.9782[<laugh>]389.9711 
287DCB_int_01389.4180[<laugh> Why do you say] that? Because you know, it's interesting. When I talk to people who are from Maryland, they're like, oh I'm from the DMV, you know. We know DC. And when I talk to people from DC, they're like, uh, no. They are not real DC people.398.8543
288DCB_se1_ag3_f_01398.7818No, they're not.399.6567
289DCB_int_01399.6318How do you s- Why do you feel like it's different? Like why is this your city?403.1951
290DCB_se1_ag3_f_01404.9019Just the love you get from it. I mean, I guess cause I grew- actually grew up in the city,410.3783
292 410.8271I have a deep love for DC. <laugh>413.6945 
294 414.2884I- That's one of the reasons- I went to school in Atlanta.416.5596 
295DCB_int_01416.8815Mm-hm.417.2397
296DCB_se1_ag3_f_01417.2737I got my two year Associate's degree. I couldn't wait to get back home.420.4017
298 421.2495A- I came back home, and422.8860 
300 423.2850I'm here. <laugh>424.6065 
301DCB_int_01424.3980And Atlanta's another chocolate-ish kind of city.427.5034
302DCB_se1_ag3_f_01427.9114Yeah, [but-]428.9450
303DCB_int_01428.3964[But it's] a different feel.429.6772
304DCB_se1_ag3_f_01429.6092It's a different feel. It's a little more southern.432.0708
305 432.9367And433.6394
307 433.9250I didn't know it.434.7500 
309 434.9087I knew home.435.6594 
311 435.8540[That's all I knew was] home. <laugh> So I came on back home.439.3039 
312DCB_int_01435.8993[Mm.]436.7062
314 439.1588You said, I got to get back home.440.5778 
315DCB_se1_ag3_f_01440.3919Mm, [yes.]441.1159
316DCB_int_01440.9042[So] how did you end up back at your house? Cause when you left to go to Atlanta, how'd you end up back?445.6711
317DCB_se1_ag3_f_01446.1471When I came back home, I had no place to go. I didn't leave home until I was- How old is my son? /RD-NAME-1/ is seven.452.0066
319 452.9450I didn't leave home home until I was like thirty six, thirty seven. I stayed home all that time.457.9930 
321 458.9132And at that point it was just time for me to spread my wings.461.6991 
322DCB_int_01462.0028And to see something different, do something different, and come back to the place you call home.465.4119
323DCB_se1_ag3_f_01463.6348[Mm-hm.]464.1018
324 465.4128Yep.465.8018
325DCB_int_01465.8902What's your best-466.8105
327 467.2729thinking about like, these block parties- I want you to tell me in- in as much detail as you can recall, like your best memory473.4316 
329 473.7761of kind of your neighborhood,475.5079 
331 475.8116probably when you were a little younger,477.3213 
333 477.7361um,478.2393 
335 478.7334and hanging out on the stoop, or hanging out or having a party, like give me some detail.483.4210 
336DCB_se1_ag3_f_01483.4210Well,483.8925
337 484.3436<laugh>484.8694
339 485.2684what we used to do, is have surprise water fights.488.1698 
341 489.1671Somebody, <laugh>490.3028 
343 490.5294would just go in the house and get a pitcher of water and come back out and dump it on somebody.493.9214 
345 494.2559And this is what we did as kids.496.0852 
347 496.5430So then next thing you know, you got all the kids scurrying in the house to get something or going to the side, getting a water hose, or502.5113 
349 503.1868we503.4361 
351 503.6084bike riding up and down the streets, skating up and down the streets. And then,507.1762 
353 507.3734we had a lady that lived next do- still lives next door to my dad,510.5241 
355 511.0500that511.3764 
357 511.6122she would get some of us neighborhood kids and take us on bus rides.515.2412 
359 515.4316She- We'd ride from516.6511 
361 517.0092our side of town all the way up to Georgetown.519.1785 
363 520.2710We'd go to the GC Murphy's up Georgetown,523.2767 
365 523.4172the Woolworth's. I mean, little things like that,525.7769 
367 526.2892and I'm noticing now n-527.6356 
369 527.8487kids nowadays, they don't-528.8687 
371 529.0092They don't do that. I even see that with my niece and nephew.531.6182 
372DCB_int_01531.8812Mm.532.2212
373DCB_se1_ag3_f_01532.8377I'm like, y'all crazy.533.9303
375 534.1751Get out, explore. That's how you gonna know things.536.3783 
377 536.8180I remember us when we became teenagers,539.9031 
379 540.2431getting-540.5105 
381 540.8007having our summer jobs, getting our checks.542.7364 
383 543.2442We would543.9500 
385 544.3572get on the bus- get on the W four, catch it up to Alabama and /??/ Road, and get on the thirty two bus and catch that all the way up Georgetown550.5340 
387 550.6836to go shopping, to hang out.552.1433 
389 552.6193Or on a Saturday,553.5668 
391 554.2060when the Senator was open, we'll get our little movie money, go down there and spend all day at the Senator.559.6258 
392DCB_int_01559.7527What's the Senator?560.4690
393DCB_se1_ag3_f_01560.7183The movie theater that used to be right there on Benning Road.563.3953
394DCB_int_01563.7081I did not know that.565.0500
395DCB_se1_ag3_f_01565.0455You didn't know that? Oh, child, we saw [the /same/-]567.2873
396DCB_int_01567.0198[Cause I'm] not from DC, [so-]568.3934
397DCB_se1_ag3_f_01568.1396[Yeah], well- it- You know where the Subway is next to the Downtown Locker Room?571.9295
398DCB_int_01573.1581I think [so.]573.9500
399DCB_se1_ag3_f_01573.7270[It's a] Subway and a Beauty and Barber Supply that sits right there.576.6964
400DCB_int_01576.7372Mm-hm.577.1407
401DCB_se1_ag3_f_01577.3674That used to be the Senator.579.2397
403 580.4614And if you look at the top of the billboard- They didn't tear the whole front583.2359 
405 583.5396portion of the- of the building down,585.2079 
407 585.5026but if you look586.2484 
409 586.4161at the very top of587.3727 
411 587.5223those two locations, you'll see it still says senator.590.3692 
413 590.7319And that was our neighborhood movie theater.592.8377 
415 593.1777For about593.5585 
417 593.7671a dollar fifty to two dollars, you could go down there and see two movies.596.9359 
418DCB_int_01597.3507Oh, no, honey. You can't even get a [/inaudible/.]599.5449
419DCB_se1_ag3_f_01599.0598[No, you] can't [nowadays.]600.8143
420DCB_int_01600.0980[You can barely play] pacman for a dollar.601.9522
421DCB_se1_ag3_f_01601.9567Mm-hm. So those are things that we did. I remember where Unity Health Clinic,606.3556
423 606.5287right there on [Minnesota Avenue] used to be a Giant.608.6753 
424DCB_int_01607.1362[Mm-hm.]607.4580
425 609.9038Really?610.3073
427 610.4705[And then-]611.0825 
428DCB_se1_ag3_f_01610.4750[Yes.]611.1097
429DCB_int_01611.2366So then they closed before Safeway opened?613.1906
430DCB_se1_ag3_f_01613.2858They closed long before Safeway opened. There used to be a Giant um-617.0100
432 618.0391trying to think.619.0500 
434 620.1834You know right there on Benning Road where they tore the Popeye's down?622.7198 
435DCB_int_01623.1369Mm, up this way? [Uh-huh.] [By- pass] the Denny's.625.5668
436DCB_se1_ag3_f_01623.8985[Yes.]624.2249
438 624.5695[That used-]625.0636 
440 625.5306Yes, that used to be Gino's627.8721 
441 628.0262Fried Chicken.628.7833
443 629.6855Um, at the top of Coral Hills where632.4508 
445 632.6503the Shoppers is now?633.8834 
446DCB_int_01634.9102/I don't know./635.3409
447DCB_se1_ag3_f_01635.6855At the very [t-]636.3383
448DCB_int_01635.9665[Go-] keep going [up.]637.0364
449DCB_se1_ag3_f_01636.8233[Keep] going up. [At the very] top of Coral Hills, that used to be a Giant and a CVS.640.8060
450DCB_int_01637.5079[Mm-hm.]637.9204
451DCB_se1_ag3_f_01641.3364When CVS- Before CVS became CVS it was called People's,644.7138
453 645.2782People's Drug [Store.]646.4369 
454DCB_int_01646.1350[Mm-hm.]646.8876
455DCB_se1_ag3_f_01646.9420Um,647.7036
457 648.3745Trying to think of what else has changed.650.1562 
458DCB_int_01650.5642Cause there's another People's- If you651.7882
460 651.9628go down like, New York and um- <ts>654.1343 
462 654.7145Is it New York and P? Or go passed P?656.9813 
464 657.2079Like, go passed Flor- Like, toward [Florida?]659.3863 
465DCB_se1_ag3_f_01659.0598[Yeah] it's a lot of CVS' along the line, but661.0908
466 661.5578these are things that we saw change, you know, over the years.664.6518
468 665.3772Um, I remember when-667.6711 
470 668.6322Where the laundromat is,669.7927 
472 669.9673um, right there at the corner East Capitol and Benning Road?672.4335 
474 672.8913And the Benco Shopping Center?674.2740 
475DCB_int_01674.2695Mm-hm. Mm-hm.674.9405
476DCB_se1_ag3_f_01675.1354That used to be676.4021
478 676.6020a grocery store.677.5495 
479DCB_int_01678.7281Wow.679.2167
480DCB_se1_ag3_f_01679.2676Where um, Kipp DC is [now?]682.1985
481DCB_int_01681.7406[Mm-hm.]682.2030
482DCB_se1_ag3_f_01682.4342That used to be what we used to call The Market.684.5559
484 684.7735We used to can go down there,685.9748 
486 686.3420and it was different little- e- sh- stands inside of there. We could shop for hair goods,690.7055 
488 691.0500t shirts.691.9340 
490 692.3466You- they had a place in there that had the best f-694.3164 
492 694.6110ch- steak and cheese.695.8351 
494 696.2884I mean these are all the things that we saw-698.3738 
496 698.5234You know, we've seen change over the years.700.5014 
498 700.9238The um, corner store that sits right there next to703.2540 
500 703.4036Kipp used to be704.4236 
502 704.7591a People's Drug Store.705.8607 
504 706.5249And if you go further up Benning Road,708.1932 
506 709.1951on709.6575 
508 709.9295the left hand side, right there- I think that's Benning Road and H,712.4388 
510 712.9510that used to be713.8260 
512 714.4154the only black owned715.8207 
514 716.7364record store717.6613 
516 718.1622on this side of town, and it was called Anne's Record Shop.720.7327 
518 721.8524And then722.6322 
520 722.9518where the hair braiding place is now, that used to be a cleaners.725.8441 
522 726.5241And then,727.4852 
524 727.6620the twenty four hour store729.3122 
526 729.5276used to be an actual Seven Eleven.731.4135 
527DCB_int_01732.5332[Mm.]732.9412
528DCB_se1_ag3_f_01732.7278[<laugh>]734.4082
529DCB_int_01733.4943[So this neighborhood] has changed. [What do you-]735.4165
530DCB_se1_ag3_f_01734.9722[It has] changed dramatically.737.3908
531DCB_int_01737.6673And do you foresee it changing it even more?739.5306
533 740.2559Like,740.5551 
535 740.7705not even just like, the people, but I'm just saying like, as we continue to build. Cause it seems like they started building in the middle, and now they just expanding out, expanding out, expanding out.748.9148 
537 749.7671Or you think it's kind of at a point where it's gonna stand still?751.9884 
538DCB_se1_ag3_f_01752.0202I think it's gonna be the point where it stands still cause a lot of756.0028
540 757.0591Ward Seven and Ward Eight758.9903 
542 759.2669are those lost wards where761.5767 
544 762.0391we're the last to get everything.763.8570 
546 764.5324/When- didn't/- And the sad part about it is Ward Eight is even767.1505 
548 767.3999last to get768.0753 
550 768.7644what [we get.]769.5714 
551DCB_int_01769.0409[/inaudible/] Yeah.770.1471
552DCB_se1_ag3_f_01770.6186So,771.3122
554 771.5593I mean- And to me,772.6609 
556 772.9465the change,773.8577 
558 776.2967I don't think it will be accepted well.778.0398 
559DCB_int_01778.6972Why not?779.1188
560DCB_se1_ag3_f_01779.2049Because779.9439
562 780.4924in these areas, you have a lot of places what they consider to be affordable housing.785.5359 
563DCB_int_01785.7489Mm-hm.786.2884
564DCB_se1_ag3_f_01786.5287And if you come in and you're remodeling and rebuilding, where-789.7769
566 789.9310where are the people that can't791.2230 
568 791.4905afford792.2204 
570 793.0183market rent- Where are they gonna go?794.8180 
571DCB_int_01794.8996Right.795.2487
572DCB_se1_ag3_f_01795.5638You gonna push them out796.6201
574 796.9873somewhere else.797.8895 
576 798.5967Or the ra- the rate of homelessne- ness is gonna go up.801.9106 
577DCB_int_01802.5793Yeah,802.9184
579 803.0679and it's already rough. Like, if you think about805.7482 
581 805.9295where you can get really fresh produce or808.1260 
583 808.7425you know, fresh food, like [beside] at the grocery store- It's811.5668 
584DCB_se1_ag3_f_01810.6057[Yeah.]810.8777
585DCB_int_01811.8343limited.812.3828
586DCB_se1_ag3_f_01812.7546And um, actually our church did a um-815.4180
588 815.6628They had a study group with someone from GW818.9178 
589DCB_int_01819.2261Mm-hm.819.5615
590DCB_se1_ag3_f_01819.5865about820.1214
592 820.5657the changes821.3953 
594 821.6265in the dy- The changes in dynamics within Ward Seven.824.8090 
596 825.3870And I was telling her where- Like a lot of these government agencies-829.9794 
598 830.3375DHS for- is the prime [example]- I've really have a833.1686 
599DCB_int_01831.8948[/example/]832.4388
600DCB_se1_ag3_f_01833.3681big problem with them834.4425
602 835.1679because835.6983 
604 836.1698you go over there- That's the one right there on Alabama Avenue.838.7244 
606 839.4769You go over there,840.2975 
608 840.8188and841.2903 
610 841.9386you're trying to get assistance,843.2442 
612 843.4097but the attitude-844.2242 
614 844.9782You got to deal with the attitude, and I actually had to tell somebody in there,848.3919 
616 848.6458Ma'am, you don't know my circumstance.850.2982 
618 850.8014You don't know what prompted me to get to where I am. I'm not one of these lazy individuals out here855.8948 
620 856.3164that's just looking for a handout, I lost my job.858.4244 
621DCB_int_01858.7417Mm-hm.859.2540
622DCB_se1_ag3_f_01859.2948So, that's why I'm here for this.860.9314
624 861.0629I don't have to come here f-862.1985 
626 862.4932for the attitude.863.4497 
628 864.1796And864.4516 
630 865.0696these are things that you have to incur within our community. And like you said, the fresh fruit.869.5223 
632 870.0935You go look at the Safeway down there on- on Minnesota Avenue,873.1717 
634 873.9492it's terrible.874.8130 
636 875.4497And that's one of the only grocery stores that we have within the Ward Seven community on this side.880.3073 
638 880.6292So,881.1052 
640 882.0391if we don't go there, we have to have a car to go884.5642 
642 884.8271elsewhere.885.4527 
643DCB_int_01885.5593Mm-hm. Cause I go there,887.6764
645 887.9348you know sometimes just to get some bananas or something, and I'm just like, really?891.1694 
647 891.3779And then it's one line for fifty people.893.9031 
648DCB_se1_ag3_f_01893.9257Mm-hm.894.2884
650 894.5740Mm-hm.894.8505 
651DCB_int_01894.8777It's895.1996
653 895.5586[awful.]896.3077 
654DCB_se1_ag3_f_01895.5749[And I-] I live in- I live in Mayfair897.9450
655 898.8619right over here um,900.5689
657 900.9404<ts>901.0878 
659 901.3415off of Kenilworth Avenue,902.3895 
660DCB_int_01902.6023Uh-huh.902.9584
661DCB_se1_ag3_f_01903.1508and903.6298
663 903.8099I shouldn't have to leave outside of my community to go to the grocery store.906.9240 
665 907.4233But I do. I find myself traveling to Laurel or I'm going out to Forestville.911.3694 
667 911.7695You know, somewhere like that.913.0058 
669 913.1449So,913.5952 
671 913.7221in those aspects, when we were coming up, we had more grocery stores and [things like] that that we could choose from,919.1408 
672DCB_int_01917.3069[Mm-hm.]917.7531
673DCB_se1_ag3_f_01919.7179and920.2214
675 920.7986it was better.921.7360 
677 921.8864You know, it was a lot better. Now, they just giving us what they feel like925.2635 
679 925.4231we should have.926.1845 
681 927.0646And927.5927 
683 927.8413if we don't voice our opinion, it's never gonna [change.]930.1173 
684DCB_int_01929.6957[That's the-] Yep.930.7354
685 931.0056That's- That's the one thing [/gotta/.]932.3650
686DCB_se1_ag3_f_01932.0494[And if] you look up and you see933.7471
687 933.9027corner store after corner store after corner store after corner store,938.1957
689 938.7687come on now.939.3705 
690DCB_int_01939.7389Mm-hm.940.2342
691DCB_se1_ag3_f_01940.2710Not everybody is in the business of going to grab something943.5816
693 943.7535quick to eat.944.5231 
695 944.6868[I cook.] <laugh>945.6897 
696DCB_int_01944.7032[Right.]945.0961
697 945.7061Mm-hm.946.1645
698DCB_se1_ag3_f_01946.2259You can look at my son and tell947.3352
700 947.4744I cook. So,948.7638 
702 949.2336you know, it's just things that950.6130 
704 950.8832they don't have to offer, but952.2791 
706 952.7498I'm not going anywhere <laugh>.953.9164 
707DCB_int_01954.2388Right.954.5990
708DCB_se1_ag3_f_01954.8160[<heavy breathing>]967.2866
709DCB_int_01954.8160[How do you- How did you- Cause I- I know your son. I know /RD-NAME-1/, and I- The reason- And it's so funny how I know him because]960.1937
711 960.5744[um,]960.9715 
713 961.5036[I do attendance, and I check attendance and things like that. So I see his name often, and I think y'all, um- The DC Trust-]967.2948 
714 967.8392You were part of the DC Trust program,969.8491
715DCB_se1_ag3_f_01970.0241[Mm-hm.]970.4580
716DCB_int_01970.2083[and] so,970.8182
717 971.0351I have to check their and send their attendance records in so I- I know /RD-NAME-1/, and I al- When I go over there, I say, hey Ch- You know, he probably doesn't know me, but I always say something. And when he lost his tooth it was so funny to me. [I thought it was so cute.]981.3935
718DCB_se1_ag3_f_01980.4275[<laugh>]981.9462
719DCB_int_01982.0321Anyway,982.4783
721 982.8017um, how did you come to Boys- How did you come984.9180 
723 985.1503to bring him to the Boys and Girls Club? Was it here when you guys were987.8478 
725 988.2081younger?988.5519 
726DCB_se1_ag3_f_01988.5560No, but I did go to the Boys and Girls Club up in Georgetown every summer cause my mom worked at Georgetown University.994.8493
728 995.2641So therefore, she had to /pus/-996.9741 
730 997.2238put me somewhere, and998.7671 
732 999.1396that's where I got a lot of expo-1000.5108 
734 1000.9325Here's where I got a lot of exposure to everything.1003.2606 
735DCB_int_011003.5267Mm.1003.7273
736DCB_se1_ag3_f_011003.8050Um,1004.2594
738 1004.5951I remember being in a Monopoly tournament, winning a [gold medal.]1007.9384 
739DCB_int_011007.7664[<laugh>]1009.3521
740DCB_se1_ag3_f_011008.3927[I remember us going] swimming. I remember us going1010.7956
741 1011.0576on nature hikes through the woods. I re- I mean,1013.4635
743 1013.8319these are all the things that I remember so,1015.6371 
745 1016.0014the experience that I had with the Boys and Girls Club, is what drew me here.1020.1634 
746DCB_int_011020.4581Mm-hm.1020.7692
747DCB_se1_ag3_f_011020.6955And not only that,1021.8048
748 1022.0300the aftercare is affordable.1023.5926
749DCB_int_011023.8628[Mm-hm.]1024.2681
750DCB_se1_ag3_f_011024.0634[Whereas] though, when he was at Arts and Technology,1026.3189
751 1026.7200<ts>1026.8756
753 1027.4108first of all, they didn't give vouchers.1028.9786 
754DCB_int_011029.5353Hm.1029.7727
755DCB_se1_ag3_f_011029.6581Second of all,1030.4154
756 1031.2913y-1031.4674
758 1031.9176y- I was paying three hundred and thirty six dollars a month1034.6633 
760 1035.1873just for aftercare.1036.5258 
762 1037.4345And1038.0117 
764 1038.3668for fifty dollars a month here,1039.9019 
766 1040.1188he gets exposed to a whole lot more1041.7562 
767DCB_int_011042.4111Mm-hm.1042.8941
768DCB_se1_ag3_f_011042.9750versus1043.4539
770 1043.6136yeah,1043.9329 
772 1044.0966you got- They fed him in the evenings. I can do that.1046.7450 
774 1046.9825I can cook, so- <laugh>1048.1276 
775DCB_int_011047.6672[Right <laugh>.]1048.5497
776DCB_se1_ag3_f_011048.6188You know, they fed him in the evenings, and1051.1567
778 1051.9017they did homework. They do that here.1053.1912 
779DCB_int_011053.5023Mm-hm.1053.8584
780DCB_se1_ag3_f_011054.4796And,1054.7456
782 1054.9094like I said I- my experience coming up was always a good one, so I wanted him to have, you know, that same-1059.7550 
783DCB_int_011059.7836So you went to Jelleff?1060.9953
784DCB_se1_ag3_f_011061.1918[Yes.]1061.7116
785DCB_int_011061.2081[with Bob.]1062.0432
786DCB_se1_ag3_f_011062.6081I don't remember who. It's been so long. [I'm for-]1064.8792
787DCB_int_011064.2403[Oh, but he's] been there for like forty ye-1066.0578
788 1066.2748He's probably been there longer than you've been alive.1068.4525
789DCB_se1_ag3_f_011068.5589He probably [was-]1069.6181
790DCB_int_011069.4380[The] little old- He's like a old- Well, he probably wasn't so old then, but1072.6799
791 1073.2980like, kind of a lanky white guy,1075.2863
793 1075.7572and he's still- If you see him, you'll be like, yep, I [remember. Cause he start- I] think he was the pool guy at first.1080.5096 
794DCB_se1_ag3_f_011077.8817[<laugh>]1078.6840
795DCB_int_011080.7379And then he moved to do like,1082.3343
797 1082.6577games and then [soccer] or something he used to do- And now he's like- He's been there [forever.]1086.8933 
798DCB_se1_ag3_f_011083.6237[Mm-hm.]1083.9635
800 1086.6150[And just] like I send /RD-NAME-1/ here during spring break,1089.3248 
801DCB_int_011089.3084Mm-hm.1089.7997
802DCB_se1_ag3_f_011089.8365I was there during [spring break.]1091.5302
803DCB_int_011090.7156[Spring break.]1091.5424
804DCB_se1_ag3_f_011091.7594You know? And it- it-1092.6681
806 1092.9629it's just a good experience. And I tell1094.9359 
808 1095.4066any of my friends that have kids,1097.0594 
809DCB_int_011097.0512Mm-hm.1097.3336
810DCB_se1_ag3_f_011097.3745Get 'em to the Boys and Girls Club.1099.0651
811DCB_int_011099.1388It's a life changing- And I've never- I didn't, you know, know about the Boys and Girls Club, and I had one right up the street.1104.3037
813 1104.6107But I was really involved in school,1106.2358 
814DCB_se1_ag3_f_011106.2685Mm-hm.1106.6165
815DCB_int_011106.6236so I didn't go, you know, after school. I usually was at school until seven or eight o'clock.1110.2709
816DCB_se1_ag3_f_011110.2750Mm-hm.1110.6843
817DCB_int_011110.9094And so,1111.5726
819 1111.8990um, I didn't know much about Boys and Girls Club til I moved here, and I was like, Oh my goodness. Like, it literally was probably-1118.0463 
821 1118.5662From here to Seven Eleven1119.8925 
823 1120.0849was the distance it was from- from my house.1121.8857 
824DCB_se1_ag3_f_011121.9064[Wow.]1122.4959
825DCB_int_011122.3145[And didn't] know anything about it.1123.8375
826DCB_se1_ag3_f_011123.8743And see that was one- Cause um,1125.7696
828 1125.8924/RD-NAME-2/ school, Arts and Technology, ended up closing.1128.4825 
829DCB_int_011128.9451Mm.1129.2152
830DCB_se1_ag3_f_011129.4772And I felt as it was time for him to have a change of scenery.1132.8297
831DCB_int_011133.0989Mm-hm.1133.4959
832DCB_se1_ag3_f_011133.4755And one of the reasons why I chose DC Prep where he goes to school at1137.8135
833 1138.0140was because1139.0333
835 1139.5859they still picked up1140.4906 
837 1140.7239from the Boys [and Girls Club.]1142.1506 
838DCB_int_011141.3870[Mm-hm. They have the bus] [after school], that brings 'em here. Mm-hm.1144.1204
839DCB_se1_ag3_f_011142.5240[Mm-hm.]1142.9251
840 1144.5298And I d- I mean, and I trust all the staff member here. They love /RD-NAME-1/ to death, even though they drive- He drives 'em crazy, but1150.3823
842 1150.9186I- I- I trust 'em.1152.1016 
844 1152.2448I really do,1152.9489 
846 1153.1577and I know that they will look out for him.1155.2770 
847DCB_int_011155.5595Mm-hm.1155.9320
848DCB_se1_ag3_f_011155.9115And that- that's important to me.1157.3688
849 1157.5775[And-]1157.8559
850DCB_int_011157.5939[It's like] another family.1158.9028
851DCB_se1_ag3_f_011158.9028Yeah, and even my dad,1160.2659
852 1160.5647he said, oh,1161.1583
854 1161.4571I st- Cause when they send him the donation request,1164.3061 
856 1164.6530he said, oh, I make sure I give to them because /RD-NAME-1/ goes there. So he gives back in his own [way too as well],1170.8453 
857DCB_int_011169.8175[/Way/ Mm-hm.]1170.9149
858DCB_se1_ag3_f_011171.3734which is good.1172.1552
859DCB_int_011172.3804So do you have- Okay, let's1173.6452
861 1173.7803before we go back- I want to go back to /RD-NAME-1/ for a minute, but I want to go-1176.5692 
863 1176.9722Do you have brothers and sisters?1178.2043 
864DCB_se1_ag3_f_011178.3598I have one brother.1179.3586
865DCB_int_011179.7270Oh so it's just two of y'all.1180.7617
866DCB_se1_ag3_f_011180.8067Yeah.1181.2119
867DCB_int_011181.2733I talked to another lady she has- It was fifteen of them.1183.8154
868DCB_se1_ag3_f_011183.9791Jesus.1184.6995
869DCB_int_011184.8182I said,1185.3749
871 1185.6359I can't imagine. [I'm- I'm a] one and one. Yeah. I'm the younger sister,1189.1399 
872DCB_se1_ag3_f_011186.5528[It's just-]1187.1382
873DCB_int_011189.4305and I [have a older brother.]1190.2164
874DCB_se1_ag3_f_011189.6024[I'm- And I'm-] I'm the youngest of the- It's [seven years] between me and my brother. [<laugh>]1195.2503
875DCB_int_011191.3493[w- w- w-]1191.9526
877 1192.2785[Oh my- It's seven years between me and my brother!]1194.3129 
879 1195.2299Ah!1195.7088 
880 1196.1621That's great.1196.6370
881DCB_se1_ag3_f_011196.7229[Yeah-huh.]1197.1773
882DCB_int_011196.9767[So I] know how it is to be the little sister, and like I don't- I don't- Mm-mm- And yeah- Always getting him in trouble cause I never got in trouble for anything. It was always his fault.1203.5702
883DCB_se1_ag3_f_011203.6071Well we had our fair share.1205.1871
884DCB_int_011205.4900Oh okay. [I'm sorry f-]1207.1182
885DCB_se1_ag3_f_011206.2790[But he used to just] torture me.1207.8959
886DCB_int_011208.4895Yeah, [that's the-] that's-1209.8076
887DCB_se1_ag3_f_011209.0789[He-]1209.4760
888DCB_int_011210.0859Mm-hm.1210.4543
889DCB_se1_ag3_f_011210.4912Let me see. He's burned my ear tryna curl my hair.1213.2286
890DCB_int_011214.2397[<laugh>]1215.9121
891DCB_se1_ag3_f_011214.4771[Um, he burnt] my leg tryna put creases in some socks. [<laugh>]1221.0092
892DCB_int_011218.8479[<laugh>]1220.8700
893DCB_se1_ag3_f_011221.9947See, my mother- my mother when we were coming up,1224.3075
895 1224.6022she1225.3472 
897 1225.5396went to school at night,1226.7349 
898DCB_int_011226.9150[Mm-hm.]1227.4635
899DCB_se1_ag3_f_011227.0542[and]1227.2998
900 1227.7449that's how she finally earned her Bachelor's degree.1230.0577
902 1230.3074And I think it was in1231.3308 
904 1232.0021eighty seven or eighty eight, she earned her Bachelor's degree.1234.2402 
906 1234.9361So of course,1235.7588 
908 1236.1887I had to stay home with my brother.1237.5845 
909DCB_int_011237.6213Mm-hm.1238.1412
910DCB_se1_ag3_f_011238.3244I know this so- may sound gross, but he sat on my head and farted before. I mean he's1243.0482
911DCB_int_011243.1782[So he did] all them little- big brother stuff.1245.2494
912DCB_se1_ag3_f_011243.1823[done-]1243.5630
914 1245.2413Yes!1245.7693 
915 1245.9658But1246.2278
917 1246.4283if something was to happen or somebody messes with me,1249.2109 
919 1249.5015he was on it,1250.0664 
921 1250.6804dead on it. Cause I remember1252.1663 
923 1252.6657one of the girls we grew up with,1253.8364 
925 1254.7892she smacked me in my face.1256.1318 
927 1256.5903It didn't hurt that bad1257.8592 
929 1258.4814but I saw my brother standing over there, so [I /crowd/]1261.0020 
930DCB_int_011260.2963[Oh.]1260.6204
931DCB_se1_ag3_f_011261.2803real loud. <laugh>1262.1972
933 1262.5329And he came to my rescue. [<laugh>]1264.9059 
934DCB_int_011264.3412[You /made/ it-] You made it- [It di- It might not even hurt.]1266.4943
935DCB_se1_ag3_f_011265.3563[<laugh>]1266.4984
936DCB_int_011266.8608[Ah!]1267.5709
937DCB_se1_ag3_f_011266.8873[<laugh>]1267.5709
938DCB_int_011267.7387You had to fall out.1268.5124
939DCB_se1_ag3_f_011268.5206I was like, [ah!] I remember it like [it was yesterday. <laugh>]1272.3100
940DCB_int_011268.7621[Do the whole, act it all up.]1270.1129
942 1270.9551[<laugh>]1272.3100 
943DCB_se1_ag3_f_011272.7890I remember we used to camp outside at night1275.4404
945 1276.3288in the front yard.1277.3398 
947 1278.1954One, two o'clock in the morning, we outside [with our /home made/-]1281.0679 
948DCB_int_011280.0896[And see kids don't do-]1281.0556
949 1281.2071They can't do that today.1282.2182
950DCB_se1_ag3_f_011282.2959No they- You can't, but1283.9702
952 1284.9485like, /RD-NAME-1/- I make him go outside.1286.9041 
954 1287.4281He is not one of those kids that has to have video games.1290.6445 
956 1291.0907Cause actually he's been punished from his video games since January, and he hasn't even aksed for it.1295.7613 
958 1296.4807He would rather go outside,1297.7210 
960 1298.1917and I'm like this, goodbye.1299.4443 
962 1299.6162Go ahead. Cause that's what we did.1301.1103 
963DCB_int_011301.2076Mm-hm.1301.7806
965 1302.0344We don't have enough of that.1303.3443 
966DCB_se1_ag3_f_011303.4098[Mm-mm.]1303.9215
967DCB_int_011303.6759[Kids] will sit in front of a TV all day.1305.5793
968 1305.8127Don't know nothing about a bike,1307.3303
970 1307.8584double dutch, [hopscotch.]1309.4343 
971DCB_se1_ag3_f_011308.4928[He actually taught] hisself how to ride his bike1311.0799
972 1312.5075one day (laughing).1313.1133
973DCB_int_011314.2635Did he have a lot of accidents?1315.7699
974DCB_se1_ag3_f_011315.9296No!1316.4003
975DCB_int_011316.6572Really?1317.0911
976DCB_se1_ag3_f_011317.0155He just happened to take his bike outside one day- No, what happened was his tire was flat, so he was like, mom!1322.1382
977 1322.6039The man said that he can um,1324.8962
979 1325.3096fix your t- fix my tire for me.1327.3195 
981 1327.7237So I said, what man?1328.9845 
983 1329.7827So I walked over there-1331.4733 
985 1332.8518I'm tryna turn my [phone off.]1334.0389 
986DCB_int_011333.6950[Oh, it's] okay.1334.4973
987DCB_se1_ag3_f_011334.5301I walked over there to him and um-1337.2481
989 1340.7019walked over there and was like, he's not over here bugging you is he? He was like, no, my- I'm'a come out here with my son, and1346.1165 
991 1346.4481I-1346.6405 
993 1346.7919/I have to/ do all the little boys' bikes. So,1348.4825 
995 1348.7148the guy was like, I'm'a tighten up his training wheels, too.1350.8557 
997 1351.1627/RD-NAME-1/ was like, I don't want my training wheels on! So I said,1353.8517 
999 1354.1703well just keep 'em on for right now. So the next day, he went outside with his bike. He come back in the house. Mom, one of my training wheels came off.1360.2398 
1001 1360.5018He took it off.1361.2386 
1002DCB_int_011361.5047[<laugh>]1363.0929
1003DCB_se1_ag3_f_011361.9018So (laughing),1362.4912
1004 1363.3713I said, [well-]1364.2473
1005DCB_int_011363.8492[But it] came off. [Mm-hm.]1365.4666
1006DCB_se1_ag3_f_011365.2164[I said], well, guess what?1366.7514
1007 1367.3818If1367.8280
1009 1367.9795that happened,1368.6099 
1011 1368.7859I don't know how you gonna ride your bike cause I'm not buying no more training wheels /w-/.1371.5970 
1013 1372.4771So then the next day1373.4022 
1015 1373.6437he went back out there.1374.5484 
1017 1374.9792The other one mysteriously came off, and he was like, ma, I know how to ride my bike now. I said, no you don't.1379.7255 
1019 1380.2168Yes I do. So then,1381.6403 
1021 1381.8122where the walk way is, my bedroom window is right there. He was right there on his bike on the walk way.1385.8718 
1023 1386.2975So I said, /RD-NAME-1/, you don't know how to ride your bike. He said, yes I do. I said, let me see.1390.1699 
1025 1390.6529He got on his bike and took off. My heart just melted cause I was like, that's not my baby anymore! <laugh>1395.8587 
1026DCB_int_011395.8547Growing up.1396.4441
1027DCB_se1_ag3_f_011396.6846I was like, wow.1398.3179
1029 1398.6535So then he gets on the phone and calls Dad.1400.2008 
1031 1400.6962I need a bigger bike.1401.6172 
1032DCB_int_011401.8945Uh! <laugh>1402.6190
1033DCB_se1_ag3_f_011402.9834So now he- he got a bigger bike.1404.5962
1034DCB_int_011405.1447Well he,1405.6400
1036 1405.9061Ay.1406.1558 
1037DCB_se1_ag3_f_011406.2202And I want one that switch gears, too. I said, okay.1409.1184
1038DCB_int_011409.1102Oh, wow.1409.9330
1039DCB_se1_ag3_f_011410.3751He's fancy.1411.0300
1040DCB_int_011410.9519Mm-hm.1411.4803
1041 1411.8313It wasn't just the regular little give me something. Mm-mm.1414.0417
1042DCB_se1_ag3_f_011414.0376[Mm-mm.]1414.4552
1043DCB_int_011414.2464[I got]- I- It need to be this color with this and this and this.1417.1886
1044DCB_se1_ag3_f_011417.2295Mm-hm.1417.8230
1045DCB_int_011417.8230And he's seven now.1418.9201
1046DCB_se1_ag3_f_011418.8832S- He's seven. [He'll be-]1419.7646
1047DCB_int_011419.4604[And he's] been going to the Boys and Girl- for a year and a half? Two years?1422.4977
1048DCB_se1_ag3_f_011422.8365Two-1423.0411
1050 1423.3236Two years.1423.9581 
1051DCB_int_011423.9703Two years.1424.5680
1052DCB_se1_ag3_f_011425.1697Getting ready to go into his third year.1426.7989
1053DCB_int_011426.8275Okay.1427.3147
1055 1427.5552Oh, he one of our long termers.1429.1025 
1056DCB_se1_ag3_f_011429.1802Mm-hm.1429.5978
1057DCB_int_011429.5814Mm-hm.1430.0521
1058DCB_se1_ag3_f_011430.1831And he's doing a be- He's gonna be here. Uh-huh. [He's gonna be a-]1432.8357
1059DCB_int_011430.9404[/He gonna be l-/]1431.9065
1061 1432.3035[He's gonna be a]1432.8357 
1062 1432.9994junior staff. [/unintelligible/]1434.7708
1063DCB_se1_ag3_f_011434.2510[That's right.]1434.9878
1064DCB_int_011435.0287That's right. We need a- [We] need especially black males. Like,1438.7036
1065DCB_se1_ag3_f_011436.1421[Mm-hm.]1436.6088
1066DCB_int_011439.1293not even just Boys and Girls- Like I'm just saying, the state of [black males right now-]1442.9730
1067DCB_se1_ag3_f_011441.6795[And see, a lot of times] he gets a chance to have that interaction with males.1446.8853
1068DCB_int_011447.0245Mm-hm.1447.3970
1069DCB_se1_ag3_f_011447.3847Yeah, my dad is around. My dad is seventy three.1449.7129
1070 1450.6421My brother is around, but he works all the time.1453.3110
1071DCB_int_011453.3601Mm-hm.1453.7449
1072DCB_se1_ag3_f_011453.5893So,1454.2238
1073 1454.6321and /RD-NAME-2/ father does not step up to the plate like he should1458.6519
1075 1459.0479as a father1459.9566 
1077 1460.1327of a young black male.1461.3311 
1078DCB_int_011461.3279Mm-hm.1461.8314
1079DCB_se1_ag3_f_011461.9624So, a lot of the interaction that he gets between here and church1465.5145
1081 1466.6606is the only [interaction he gets] with a male. So,1468.9652 
1082DCB_int_011467.4097[/interaction he-/]1467.9299
1083DCB_se1_ag3_f_011470.3437like I tell /Mr. Jack/, take him under your wing.1472.0425
1085 1472.3045[<laugh>] And he was like, that's my boy. I'm'a make sure he alright. I said, and if you need to jack him up, go ahead. Cause guess what? It takes a [village.]1478.6769 
1086DCB_int_011472.4846[Mm-hm.]1472.9635
1088 1478.1869[Village.]1478.6769 
1089DCB_se1_ag3_f_011479.2295And1479.8271
1091 1480.4852between here and church,1482.3845 
1093 1482.9330that's my village.1483.8950 
1094DCB_int_011483.9073What church do you go to?1484.7178
1095DCB_se1_ag3_f_011484.7587Pilgrim Rest Baptist Church, right off Sheriff Road.1487.0950
1097 1488.6996It's um, right up the street from D- Uh, First Baptist Church of Deanwood.1492.4277 
1098DCB_int_011492.6119Okay.1492.9394
1099DCB_se1_ag3_f_011493.2218Forty six eleven Sheriff Road.1494.8142
1100DCB_int_011494.9615Okay, I'm'a have to come visit. I [always like to ask] where [people go.]1498.1296
1101DCB_se1_ag3_f_011496.3441[Please!]1496.9336
1103 1497.6376[Our Family] and Friends Day is August second.1499.7744 
1104DCB_int_011500.2492Okay.1500.6668
1105DCB_se1_ag3_f_011500.7650Um,1501.1211
1107 1501.3493both seven forty five and eleven ser- eleven o'clock service. I got to sing in both of those services. It's gonna be dynamic.1506.1509 
1109 1506.7394Cause we're gonna have a um, pastor from /Rafting/ Creek, South Carolina come up and preach1511.1193 
1110DCB_int_011511.6382[Okay.]1512.1867
1111DCB_se1_ag3_f_011511.6392[for Family and] Friends Day, so please come out.1513.6030
1112DCB_int_011513.7135/Say/- I- I- I like to do the early, so I'll probably come to the seven forty five.1517.5900
1114 1518.0761Um,1518.6819 
1116 1519.0831so1519.5743 
1118 1519.7053let me ask you this. W- Are you close to any of your other family? I know you have your dad,1523.5930 
1120 1523.8140do your um- aunts, uncles?1525.8444 
1121DCB_se1_ag3_f_011526.1514Well my mom was a only child,1527.9934
1122DCB_int_011528.2585Oh!1528.6719
1123DCB_se1_ag3_f_011529.2286and my dad has1531.4923
1124DCB_int_011533.0636/Sorry./1533.5174
1125DCB_se1_ag3_f_011533.6403two brothers and a sister.1535.3022
1127 1536.9764They're not as close1538.3004 
1129 1538.5841as I think family should be.1540.8150 
1131 1541.1753They're close, but they're not real close cause1543.1237 
1133 1543.3110one uncle lives in North Carolina and another one is in Michigan, and then1546.2542 
1135 1546.8723my aunt is in Kansas.1548.6202 
1136DCB_int_011549.0694Oh, so y'all kind of- geographically they're spread out, [so-]1551.8611
1137DCB_se1_ag3_f_011551.4027[Yeah.]1551.8652
1138 1552.2418But1552.4956
1140 1552.7330they come down every s- Like when my great aunt passed in New York, um,1556.4939 
1142 1557.2430the middle of1557.8406 
1144 1558.0698last summer,1558.7207 
1146 1559.1996my uncles were here.1560.2465 
1147DCB_int_011560.4144Mm-hm.1560.7091
1148DCB_se1_ag3_f_011560.7050My aunt didn't come down, but my uncles were here.1562.4815
1149 1562.8295So we got a chance to spend time with them, and1565.1863
1151 1565.3500/RD-NAME-1/ got a chance to, you know, interact with them.1567.8061 
1153 1568.3546But like as far as my cousins and things like that are concerned,1571.7838 
1155 1572.3078my mother had cous- her cou- her first cousins, and we grew up with their children,1577.2639 
1156DCB_int_011577.6078[Mm-hm.]1578.1666
1157DCB_se1_ag3_f_011577.8984[and then] we always had extended family cause my godmother is here. She had five girls,1582.6580
1158 1583.1902and um,1584.2667
1160 1584.8971I do have1585.5029 
1162 1585.6902m- one of my girlfriends,1586.9305 
1164 1587.0984we say we're sisters1588.2200 
1165DCB_int_011588.3141[Mm-hm.]1588.7726
1166DCB_se1_ag3_f_011588.5884[Cause] we've been friends since she was three and I was six. So that's my [sister.1592.0340
1167DCB_int_011591.5998[Sister, yeah.]1592.3901
1168DCB_se1_ag3_f_011592.4433So1592.8404
1170 1593.0737her and I sometimes are each other's backbone. We're each other's support system, too, as far as1598.6029 
1172 1598.9631anything is concerned.1600.3181 
1173DCB_int_011600.7806And do-1601.2268
1175 1601.4059Do you all like get together, do family stuff? [Like go to] [reunions],1605.3315 
1176DCB_se1_ag3_f_011603.6491[I do f-]1604.1485
1178 1604.9221[I- I-]1605.3315 
1179DCB_int_011605.5116Sunday dinner?1606.3180
1180DCB_se1_ag3_f_011606.4275No, I do Sunday dinner every Sunday at my house.1608.7976
1181DCB_int_011608.9777Okay, I'm [coming over.]1609.8817
1182DCB_se1_ag3_f_011609.3011[Um-]1609.7800
1183 1610.1894Please do.1610.7493
1184DCB_int_011610.7493Mm-hm.1610.9712
1185DCB_se1_ag3_f_011610.9637And- I-1611.4952
1186 1611.7449People like, well why do you cook so much?1613.7169
1188 1614.1180Because1614.4864 
1190 1614.7198I grew up1615.3051 
1192 1615.5098in a family- with my mom.1616.9138 
1194 1617.3344If you come past,1618.5338 
1196 1619.4548and it's Sunday,1620.8916 
1198 1621.1331I can offer you a meal.1622.1688 
1199DCB_int_011622.3560Mm-hm.1622.7572
1200DCB_se1_ag3_f_011622.8063And I'm a firm deliver in Sunday dinner because Sunday starts your week off,1626.2652
1201DCB_int_011626.4290Mm-hm.1626.9161
1202DCB_se1_ag3_f_011626.9775so I do two meats, the fresh vegetable,1629.5390
1204 1629.7477a starch, maybe two starches depending on /?/ in the day,1632.4412 
1206 1632.6786that's how I-1633.3499 
1207DCB_int_011633.8974Okay- Amen. So I- Yes.1635.5062
1209 1635.6740/Cut me a little ?/1637.1926 
1210DCB_se1_ag3_f_011637.2868[<laugh>]1638.8780
1211DCB_int_011637.6992[Thank you. Yes.]1639.3898
1212 1639.9137Um,1640.3026
1214 1640.6465alright so let's talk a little bit about school if you don't mind for a few minutes. Um, so you went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/,1647.0805 
1215DCB_se1_ag3_f_011647.1802Mm-hm.1647.5293
1216DCB_int_011647.6190/RD-SCHOOL-2/, and then /RD-SCHOOL-3/.1649.3634
1218 1650.1575Tell me a little bit about1651.4224 
1220 1651.9505school. Did you have a favorite teacher? What was your favorite subject?1655.2365 
1221DCB_se1_ag3_f_011655.4452My favorite teacher at elementary school was Miss /RD-NAME-4/.1659.5304
1223 1660.8352She was1661.4370 
1225 1661.6375the1662.4521 
1227 1662.5995best eighth grade teacher cause she cared about her kids,1665.6726 
1228DCB_int_011665.8855Mm.1666.1110
1229DCB_se1_ag3_f_011666.0042and we cared about her.1667.2322
1230 1667.7398And she's actually the principal over at1670.3596
1232 1670.5755um-1671.2264 
1234 1671.5457<ts>1671.7217 
1236 1672.4749I can't think of the name of the elementary school, but it's on- right on Minnesota Avenue.1676.5877 
1237DCB_int_011676.6369/?/1676.9602
1238DCB_se1_ag3_f_011677.4433No.1677.6889
1239DCB_int_011677.9713Pass-1678.4625
1240DCB_se1_ag3_f_011678.4912Minnesota and1679.3303
1242 1679.8502uh, Eli Place.1681.0567 
1243DCB_int_011681.7526Oh um, mm-hm.1683.3368
1245 1684.0777I can see it.1684.8309 
1246DCB_se1_ag3_f_011684.8513I can see it too, but I can't [think of the name.]1686.9584
1247DCB_int_011686.1725[Think of the name.]1686.9625
1248 1687.6502Yup.1687.8549
1249DCB_se1_ag3_f_011688.0063But that's the school that she's at, and she impacted all of our lives cause she's one that-1693.3636
1251 1694.5384She just didn't accept- When it came down to her kids, she just didn't accept no for an answer.1699.3062 
1252DCB_int_011699.5723Mm-hm.1699.8507
1253DCB_se1_ag3_f_011700.3623And her heart was there.1702.0845
1255 1702.7764And actually after our class left, she left the school <laugh>.1705.8833 
1256DCB_int_011706.5414[Oh], and then that's when she- And so she's been principal since then, or did she do some other things [and then come back?]1711.5926
1257DCB_se1_ag3_f_011706.5506<laugh>1706.7225
1259 1710.9009[I think she's been] principal since then.1712.9670 
1260DCB_int_011713.0735Oh so she's been there for a [minute.]1714.5921
1261DCB_se1_ag3_f_011714.1541[Mm-hm.]1714.5962
1262 1715.0506[Mm-hm.]1715.3985
1263DCB_int_011715.1570[Okay.]1715.6687
1264 1715.9593Yeah, I can see it just as plain as day.1717.7318
1265DCB_se1_ag3_f_011718.2383What [is the name?] (whispering)1719.0857
1266DCB_int_011718.4553[Can't think of the] name of the place.1719.8798
1267DCB_se1_ag3_f_011722.3758Mm.1722.5968
1268DCB_int_011722.7728It'll probably come to me, [just when] you're [not even] thinking about.1725.3476
1269DCB_se1_ag3_f_011723.6979[Uh-huh.]1724.2628
1271 1724.3529[I-]1724.6558 
1272DCB_int_011725.7283Did you have a favorite subject?1726.7598
1273DCB_se1_ag3_f_011728.6172Mm, no.1729.0716
1274DCB_int_011729.4113[No?]1729.6733
1275DCB_se1_ag3_f_011729.4154[I wa-]1729.8043
1276 1730.1850<sigh>1730.4388
1277DCB_int_011731.2697Did you [/you didn't like sch-/?]1732.2685
1278DCB_se1_ag3_f_011731.4089[School wasn't] my big-1732.7556
1279 1733.0944It wasn't my big- I- I did it because I had [to],1735.6364
1280DCB_int_011735.4440[Mm-hm.]1736.1317
1281DCB_se1_ag3_f_011736.2504but it wasn't one-1737.2001
1283 1737.6012anything that I enjoyed1738.7914 
1285 1739.0493until I got to /RD-SCHOOL-5/.1740.7644 
1286DCB_int_011741.5667Why?1741.8451
1287DCB_se1_ag3_f_011742.3404I was on a pom squad.1743.4579
1288DCB_int_011744.5171So it wasn't even school that you- [You liked all the extra curricular- It wasn't even the school that you] was like, oh [God.]1749.5592
1289DCB_se1_ag3_f_011745.8925[<laugh>]1748.4222
1291 1749.2931[And then] part of the reason, my brother graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, too,1751.8228 
1292 1752.0807when it was all boys.1753.1081
1294 1753.3988I was the second graduating class1755.0269 
1295DCB_int_011755.5468[/That it was-/]1755.9889
1296DCB_se1_ag3_f_011755.6532[um], of coed.1756.5988
1297 1757.4830Do you remember Coach /Battle/?1758.8215
1298DCB_int_011759.3209Mm-hm.1759.5870
1299DCB_se1_ag3_f_011759.9953He1760.3146
1301 1760.6421was the first graduating class1762.0625 
1303 1762.2958from /RD-SCHOOL-2/1762.8198 
1304DCB_int_011763.9905[Okay.]1764.6209
1305DCB_se1_ag3_f_011764.1297[in the co ed]1764.8706
1306 1764.9965in- uh- when we went coed. So he came out in ninety, and I came out in ninety one.1768.6151
1307DCB_int_011768.8934Mm, okay.1769.8840
1309 1770.4847I didn't realize he was that old. Like, I didn't realize- I thought- Not old, like, oh, he's old but I didn't realize- thought we were closer in age.1776.7753 
1311 1777.1846Um,1777.8068 
1313 1778.3062but we're ten years- Okay.1779.5343 
1315 1779.7144Alright.1780.2056 
1317 1780.5484And did-1781.1359 
1319 1782.0589so you were on the pom squad. What was your favorite1784.3962 
1321 1784.6173moment of that- I m- Just being a part of something, was it a competition you all went [to?]1789.4506 
1322DCB_se1_ag3_f_011789.2050[We] did band competitions. We went to Florida and did a band competition,1794.1202
1323 1794.6523and we loved our band director, Miss Nines.1798.6505
1325 1799.0967She was a feisty white lady (whispering) [<laugh>]1802.0890 
1326DCB_int_011801.7654[<laugh>]1802.6480
1327DCB_se1_ag3_f_011802.7552that didn't take no for an [answer] again,1804.7323
1328DCB_int_011803.9833[/Answer./]1804.2166
1329DCB_se1_ag3_f_011805.0680and when it came down to her kids,1806.8896
1331 1807.0656she was involved.1808.2599 
1333 1809.1809You know, in every aspect. If our grades was slipping, she would pull us by the shirt collar and say, look, get it together, else you're gonna be off my team.1816.7285 
1335 1817.2644So she made sure that her kids were1819.6924 
1337 1820.1205on top of their [game.]1821.2605 
1338DCB_int_011820.6977[And you did it all] through high school? Nine through twelve?1822.7526
1339DCB_se1_ag3_f_011822.8335No.1823.2715
1341 1823.5621Uh, eleventh and twelfth [grade. Yeah.]1825.3796 
1342DCB_int_011824.9416[Eleventh and] twelve.1825.8626
1343DCB_se1_ag3_f_011826.2105[Yeah.]1826.6117
1344DCB_int_011826.2310[Okay.] Cause I know like, ours you can't- You have- Not in ninth grade, you can't do it. You have to be-1830.1882
1345DCB_se1_ag3_f_011830.0811Y- We could have, but when we were um,1832.4638
1346 1834.7848a all girls school they didn't have [a pom] squad.1837.0512
1347DCB_int_011836.1790[Have it.]1836.6127
1348 1837.0603Gotcha.1837.4986
1350 1837.6199[Okay.]1838.0628 
1351DCB_se1_ag3_f_011837.8250[Yeah], and I wasn't one1839.2332
1352 1839.5585that was built f- to be a cheerleader.1841.0553
1354 1841.3117My rhythm is not1842.1930 
1356 1842.4401the [best.]1842.9391 
1357DCB_int_011842.5847[Hm.]1842.7945
1358 1843.1676Mm-hm.1843.4240
1359DCB_se1_ag3_f_011843.5825[<laugh>]1845.4244
1360DCB_int_011843.5965[Oh I understand. I understand. I was-] Mm-mm.1845.8056
1361 1846.3651I made dance team one year, and everybody was like, what? I was like, I don't know. They musta- was looking at somebody else, but I made it.1852.2299
1362DCB_se1_ag3_f_011846.3745[Yeah.]1846.9294
1364 1852.2159Yeah.1852.6822 
1365DCB_int_011852.7289Um, so I understand that.1854.0158
1367 1854.2303You're not [coordinated. Two left feet.]1856.1001 
1368DCB_se1_ag3_f_011855.0836[And then I was the-] I was the one that-1857.2192
1369 1857.4559I want to say a class clown,1859.0040
1371 1859.7314[but I] believed in having [fun.]1861.5965 
1372DCB_int_011859.7500[Mm.]1860.2443
1374 1861.2701[/What./]1861.6525 
1375 1861.8810You were the class clown [<laugh>.]1863.7189
1376DCB_se1_ag3_f_011862.7250[And I never spent] money- my own money on lunch.1865.4050
1377 1866.2490I used to go around with a cup every day (laughing),1868.3240
1379 1868.9383that put [on the side of it] (laughing),1870.4258 
1380DCB_int_011869.3161[<laugh>]1870.2884
1381DCB_se1_ag3_f_011871.2091The poor, the needy, the greedy-1872.4821
1383 1872.7246The poor, the needy1873.8110 
1385 1874.1841and greedy fund. Please help me get my lunch. And I would get my lunch that way every day. [<laugh>]1880.0628 
1386DCB_int_011878.7577[/Oh ma-/ somebody] else ge]- /Amen/.1880.7856
1387DCB_se1_ag3_f_011880.7576<laugh>1881.9500
1388 1882.2952Every day, and then1883.3537
1390 1883.8526my favorite subject in high school,1885.8064 
1392 1886.4125Mr. /RD-NAME-3/.1887.4244 
1394 1888.0714Um,1888.6356 
1396 1889.1252he taught Social Justice.1890.7526 
1397DCB_int_011891.3867Mm.1891.8437
1398DCB_se1_ag3_f_011891.8204And1892.7063
1399 1893.7496he impacted everybody's lives cause we were able to o-1897.1862
1401 1897.8437He opened our eyes to a lot of things, be it the Civil Rights Movement,1901.5402 
1403 1902.0158apartheid over in South Africa,1904.4778 
1405 1905.0642um- We had to do a three dimensional tour of DC1908.6919 
1407 1909.2795where1909.8623 
1409 1910.6177we could either start over at Arlington Cemetery and walk from Arlington Cemetery1915.4007 
1411 1915.9509back over to DC or start in DC and end at Arlington Cemetery where we would have to1920.6826 
1413 1922.3846pick something up at each one of the landmarks.1924.4724 
1414DCB_int_011924.3745Mm-hm.1924.9060
1415DCB_se1_ag3_f_011924.9480H- Um, we had to do a shaving of a certain name on the um-1929.7508
1417 1930.1273What wall is that? Is that the AIDS Wall1932.1044 
1419 1933.4100that's downtown?1934.3939 
1421 1935.0234I can't remember which wall it is. The Vietnam Memorial,1937.5438 
1422DCB_int_011937.5109Mm-hm.1937.9319
1423DCB_se1_ag3_f_011938.2863we w- had to do a rubbing from off of there.1940.6290
1425 1940.7609Um,1941.1866 
1427 1942.2532we had to meet at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.1946.1701 
1429 1946.7623It was just so many things,1947.9500 
1431 1948.2579and that gave us an opportunity to see DC on foot1951.8670 
1432DCB_int_011952.3892Mm-hm.1952.8882
1433DCB_se1_ag3_f_011952.9488because we couldn't catch the bus to each one of those locations. We had to walk it.1956.7013
1435 1957.3914So that opened [our eyes.]1958.5944 
1436DCB_int_011958.0255[And you ain't have your] cell phone where you can [take a picture and a] selfie.1961.1485
1437DCB_se1_ag3_f_011959.6004[Exactly.]1960.5470
1438 1961.3770And then um,1962.4075
1440 1962.8598we worked at soup kitchens.1964.2866 
1442 1964.7016We [had to]-1965.0781 
1443DCB_int_011964.7154[Mm.]1965.4152
1444DCB_se1_ag3_f_011965.1514[It was] mandatory for us to volunteer at the soup kitchens.1967.7500
1445DCB_int_011967.7640As part of the [class?]1968.8551
1446DCB_se1_ag3_f_011968.6826[As] part of the [class],1969.7831
1447DCB_int_011969.6059[Wow.]1970.0255
1448DCB_se1_ag3_f_011970.0861so that gave us an opportunity to see1972.7149
1450 1973.6801life on the other [side.]1974.9531 
1451DCB_int_011974.5545[Side] Mm-hm.1975.4567
1452DCB_se1_ag3_f_011976.1887Um, what else did we do (whispering)?1977.5363
1454 1978.8734He used to give-1979.6521 
1456 1979.9505He used to just do crazy stuff. He was just like,1982.4685 
1458 1982.7716weird. <laugh>1983.7415 
1460 1984.3139But everybody that came through his class,1986.8365 
1462 1987.0090learned1987.7318 
1464 1987.9090something.1988.7250 
1466 1989.4326And my brother even had him,1990.7708 
1468 1991.1299and he graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ in eighty four,1993.0044 
1470 1993.7691[so]1994.4545 
1471DCB_int_011994.3265[Wow.]1994.7295
1472DCB_se1_ag3_f_011995.1435a lot of the teachers, <laugh>1996.2812
1474 1996.7568that my brother had-1997.7174 
1475DCB_int_011997.9878You had 'em [too? And then-] And you were his little sister?2000.1421
1476DCB_se1_ag3_f_011998.4821[Uh-huh.]1998.9624
1478 2000.0255[Uh-huh.]2000.4965 
1479DCB_int_012000.2633[Mm-hm.]2000.7343
1480DCB_se1_ag3_f_012001.0887And they used to say, we feel so sorry for you. <laugh>2005.0183
1482 2005.9229But yeah, Social Justice was like the best class.2009.6941 
1483DCB_int_012009.7733And so, the fact that you got to do DC like that, right? Being a native, I think sometimes we forget-2014.4910
1485 2015.8060We-2016.1371 
1487 2016.5287Like the monuments and all, that's like a very touristy thing2019.4978 
1489 2019.7403but do you feel like a lot of natives take advantage of that? Like, do you think a lot of 'em go down and hang out [at the Washing-]2025.1260 
1490DCB_se1_ag3_f_012024.5851[No.]2025.0280
1491 2025.4699They don't take-2026.2253
1493 2027.0366take-2027.3350 
1495 2027.7221They don't take advantage of it.2029.0277 
1496DCB_int_012029.4706And why not?2030.2027
1497DCB_se1_ag3_f_012030.8322M-2030.9488
1499 2031.1959They just- I mean some of 'em2033.0413 
1501 2033.3257aren't taught to go and do those types of things.2035.9416 
1503 2036.3892Some of 'em are just taught to just2038.4491 
1505 2038.6216accept the city for what it is.2040.2629 
1507 2040.8691But if they get out, and they see the beauty that's within the city,2043.9735 
1509 2044.2952[I think] a lot of people would appreciate it a lot more.2046.9111 
1510DCB_int_012044.2999[Mm-hm.]2044.6076
1511 2047.0463I agree.2047.5266
1512DCB_se1_ag3_f_012048.9115[And uh, I really] do. But,2050.5796
1513DCB_int_012048.9115[I agree.]2049.7000
1514DCB_se1_ag3_f_012051.3117they don't.2052.0112
1516 2052.3935It's sad.2053.0883 
1518 2053.5732I look around at-2054.3752 
1520 2054.5944sometimes at some of these kids2056.4398 
1522 2056.9060that are2057.4423 
1524 2057.6148our future, and I just2059.1244 
1526 2059.2636get sick to my stomach2060.6270 
1528 2061.1726because I'm like,2061.9688 
1530 2062.2532these are the people that's gonna have to take care of us when we get older.2065.1023 
1532 2065.7318That's why I refuse to allow my son to be2069.0040 
1534 2069.3210any old thing out here.2070.5241 
1535DCB_int_012070.8458Mm-hm.2071.2002
1536DCB_se1_ag3_f_012071.1349He might try his hand in getting over, but2073.5072
1537 2073.8196it's not gonna happen.2074.9480
1539 2075.8386It's not gonna happen. You know how- well-2077.5779 
1541 2077.9090I mean, a lot of people might say that this is petty. I m- He's not allowed to say, yeah.2081.6241 
1543 2082.0485What is yeah?2082.7246 
1544DCB_int_012083.0510I love that.2083.5359
1545DCB_se1_ag3_f_012083.6991It's yes.2084.6410
1546DCB_int_012084.6131Mm-hm.2084.9954
1547DCB_se1_ag3_f_012085.3300And if he say's, yeah to me, I'm like, what do you say? Oh, yes Mommy. <laugh>2089.3634
1549 2089.7970Ye- I mean, it's certain things that we have to instill in our kids. And [if we] don't instill it, [then nobo-] The streets are gonna get 'em, [and]2096.5991 
1550DCB_int_012093.2138[Right.]2093.5915
1552 2094.3609[Then nobody else-]2095.4380 
1554 2096.0488[Mm-hm.]2096.6224 
1555DCB_se1_ag3_f_012097.2892that's why I try to- Between here and church I try to keep him involved in something.2101.6199
1557 2102.2447He sings in a choir at church too,2104.0033 
1559 2104.2299so I try to keep him as busy as possible.2106.7013 
1560DCB_int_012106.7339If you could give on piece of advice,2108.8975
1562 2109.4512either thinking about something that you could do over,2111.9365 
1564 2112.5987or2113.3960 
1566 2113.6945if you- Like, you said, you looking at kind of our youth today- If you could give one piece of advice, what would it be and why?2119.0417 
1567DCB_se1_ag3_f_012120.5991Go to school and get your education2122.7242
1569 2123.7081because that is the only way that we are gonna be able to progress as a society2128.7848 
1571 2129.2185is through education.2130.6360 
1572DCB_int_012131.0696Mm.2131.4706
1573DCB_se1_ag3_f_012131.7271There are so many programs, so many opportunities within the city2136.4401
1575 2136.8038that we don't take advantage of.2138.3799 
1576DCB_int_012138.7203Mm-hm.2139.0887
1577DCB_se1_ag3_f_012139.4792Like,2140.0387
1579 2140.4724I r- lost my job in December. I could have sat at home and did nothing all day,2144.8835 
1581 2145.3731but I went and took free classes from UDC Work Force Development. I got a cert- I got my certification in Front Desk.2151.4326 
1583 2151.8709I was gonna go back and do Leasing and Property Management cause that's where I want to go next with my customer service experience,2157.5736 
1585 2157.9222but then I ended up getting the temp position that I have now.2160.2117 
1587 2160.9670But2161.3168 
1589 2161.5499once I'm finished this temp assignment,2163.0141 
1591 2163.2321I'm still gonna go back [to school], and2165.1019 
1592DCB_int_012164.3931[/Back in-/]2164.9107
1593DCB_se1_ag3_f_012165.5682I did free- Buy Back, office- Free computer classes. It's no reason why anybody in this city should not know how to work a computer.2172.3469
1595 2173.0603Because there are programs out there that we need to take advantage of.2177.0506 
1597 2178.1837We get a lot more advanta-2179.3168 
1599 2179.6805more things to do here in DC than you do in Maryland.2182.5470 
1601 2183.3770Maryland offers nothing.2184.6056 
1603 2185.4240[Take] advantage [of it.]2186.5431 
1604DCB_int_012185.4240[That's]-2185.6975
1606 2186.4079[That's right.]2186.8555 
1607 2187.0514Everything comes to DC.2188.5610
1609 2188.6542[Everything.]2190.0251 
1610DCB_se1_ag3_f_012188.6822[Yeah, take it.]2189.8386
1611 2190.2210Take- If they offering it,2191.5313
1612DCB_int_012192.0209[Take it.]2192.6037
1613DCB_se1_ag3_f_012192.0488[take advantage] of it cause like/RD-NAME-2/2194.0807
1614 2194.2952um-2194.8827
1616 2195.6008/RD-NAME-1/ has2196.3049 
1618 2197.7691four older sisters,2198.7763 
1620 2199.3999and two of his older sisters2200.8107 
1622 2200.8766I raised through foster care.2202.2956 
1624 2203.1862And2203.7551 
1626 2204.4545I used to tell them,2205.3232 
1628 2205.4184I hate the situation that y'all are in,2207.4749 
1630 2207.8946but y'all are in the best situation that anybody could aks for.2211.1773 
1632 2211.4419Go to school, get your education. Get those grades-2213.2418 
1634 2213.6008They will pay for four- any four year [institution.]2216.1654 
1635DCB_int_012215.3960[/?/]2215.6572
1637 2215.9882[Mm-hm.]2216.5011 
1638DCB_se1_ag3_f_012216.5384If it's Princeton that you want,2218.0434
1640 2218.4258guess what? You can do [Princeton.]2220.5147 
1641DCB_int_012219.8666[Princeton.]2220.4681
1642 2220.6826Yup.2221.0183
1643DCB_se1_ag3_f_012221.1629Take advantage of what they giving you because2223.3346
1645 2223.6004guess what? Hindsight is twenty twenty, and that's when the /woulda shoulda couldas/ are gonna set in.2227.9050 
1647 2228.0722Want to know how? Cause I'm the /woulda coulda shoulda/.2230.4491 
1649 2231.0180I came back home.2231.9132 
1651 2232.5241<ts>2232.6826 
1653 2233.3074I went to UDC.2234.2354 
1655 2235.0887Started out going to school full time,2236.9647 
1657 2237.6288not working.2238.1927 
1659 2238.3869My mother and them was like, we don't want you to work. We want you to focus on your education.2241.6855 
1661 2242.3745But they wasn't putting the money in my pocket cause I could go party now!2245.3168 
1662DCB_int_012245.5499Mm.2245.8437
1663DCB_se1_ag3_f_012246.0442So2246.7576
1665 2247.8662f-2248.0714 
1667 2248.1630I started2248.8827 
1669 2249.4936going to school full time, and I was working full time.2252.0395 
1671 2252.7716I was going to school on2254.8781 
1673 2255.1578Tuesdays and Thursdays from eight o'clock in the morning to eight o'clock at night.2258.5198 
1675 2259.4524I was working Sunday, Monday, Wednesday,2261.5215 
1677 2261.7827Friday and Saturday.2262.9904 
1679 2264.3706So [eventually]2265.4664 
1680DCB_int_012264.8730[Mm.]2265.1959
1681DCB_se1_ag3_f_012266.4474<ts>2266.5133
1683 2266.5796after awhile, I got tired of doing that.2268.3562 
1685 2269.1909School2269.8716 
1687 2269.9929became part time.2271.1306 
1689 2271.4559Work became full time.2272.9294 
1691 2273.8060So eventually,2274.8272 
1693 2275.1536you know what happens.2276.1701 
1695 2276.3473School became nonexistent at all,2278.3838 
1696DCB_int_012278.6729Mm-hm.2278.9900
1697DCB_se1_ag3_f_012279.0506and2279.6195
1699 2281.0743w- at- at the age that I'm at now,2282.9301 
1701 2283.1388that's where the /woulda coulda shouldas/,2284.6403 
1703 2284.9433you know, set in. I thought I was on top of the world,2287.2095 
1705 2287.8297and here it is,2288.8229 
1707 2289.1994I- I'm the lowest thing on the totem pole now2291.2464 
1709 2291.9645because I don't have that2293.5033 
1711 2293.6758degree behind [my name.] I don't have those credentials that they're looking for.2297.4003 
1712DCB_int_012294.4405[Mm.]2294.7763
1713DCB_se1_ag3_f_012297.7174Yes, I have the experience, but they don't want to pay me the money because I don't have that degree.2301.5678
1715 2301.9781Or I don't have2302.9620 
1717 2303.2138what exactly they're looking for in way of education.2306.0582 
1719 2306.5664So I'm fighting with-2307.7916 
1721 2307.9781I have2308.5563 
1723 2308.7102seventeen plus years of customer service experience,2311.8996 
1725 2312.8182but they want you to have a degree in something else.2314.9340 
1727 2315.7034So, I have to accept a job pay of seventeen dollars a hour when I know my potential2320.4724 
1729 2320.8268to make much more,2322.1184 
1730DCB_int_012322.5287Mm.2322.7899
1731DCB_se1_ag3_f_012322.9018but I don't have that.2323.8297
1733 2324.2913So I- I told them, take advantage of whatever educational opportunities that there are afforded out here,2329.6199 
1735 2329.8297take advantage of 'em.2330.6877 
1737 2331.2554Because that's the only way that we gonna be able to get ahead,2333.4749 
1739 2333.7267[if you just] keep going to school. And of course, they didn't listen.2336.3100 
1740DCB_int_012333.7267[Mm-hm.]2334.2956
1741DCB_se1_ag3_f_012336.5338<laugh>2336.9022
1743 2338.2159<sigh> One of 'em dropped out2339.7127 
1745 2341.2002eleventh grade year,2342.4872 
1746DCB_int_012342.8835Mm. So close.2344.0061
1747DCB_se1_ag3_f_012344.6822and the other one, she graduated from high school.2348.6364
1749 2349.9268And she started- I don't know what happened cause I actually ended up having them removed from my house,2353.6945 
1751 2354.2773but um,2355.3778 
1753 2356.6309she started going to UDC but I don't know what happened2359.3168 
1755 2359.4893but she's not in school anymore.2361.2705 
1757 2361.9455So, I'm just like, y-2363.4050 
1759 2363.6335y'all blew it2364.6220 
1761 2365.1396because free- free! Nobody has to pay for [anything.]2369.1392 
1762DCB_int_012368.6869[You ain't gonna] be in debt.2369.8200
1763DCB_se1_ag3_f_012370.0112Exactly! [You don't have to worry about] going out here getting a- a loan. None of that.2374.9364
1764DCB_int_012371.1582[And debt is real.]2372.1374
1765DCB_se1_ag3_f_012375.8060So,2376.3655
1767 2378.2074I just tell anybody, get your education.2380.1833 
1769 2380.9993Do what you got to- <laugh>2381.6801 
1770DCB_int_012381.7920Do.2382.0904
1771DCB_se1_ag3_f_012382.1930[Do what you got to] do.2383.2328
1772DCB_int_012382.1930[/You know-/]2382.7292
1773DCB_se1_ag3_f_012383.4940Education, education, education.2385.0886
1774DCB_int_012385.1073It's important.2385.8131
1776 2385.9231It-2386.0660 
1778 2386.2602People don't realize- Cause that's the one thing. Once you get it, can't nobody take that away [from you.]2390.4089 
1779DCB_se1_ag3_f_012389.9053[Exactly. Exactly.]2391.9243
1780DCB_int_012390.6700[They can steal your phone.] They can steal your car. They can break into your house. But once you get that, they cannot take that out your [mind.]2396.6047
1781DCB_se1_ag3_f_012396.1011[Mm-hm.]2396.5767
1782 2397.2156And I t- It's- It's funny. I look back at2399.8314
1784 2400.3432the group of girls that2401.4623 
1786 2401.7188I used to run with.2402.8006 
1788 2403.4627I was always that one that was on top of my game, making money.2406.8608 
1790 2407.3224Now all of 'em surpassing me. <laugh> And I'm like, okay.2410.5352 
1792 2411.7335It's time for me to get on my game.2413.4623 
1793DCB_int_012413.6209Talk about your friends a little bit, when you talk about the group of girls you used to run with.2416.7963
1794DCB_se1_ag3_f_012417.4584<sigh>2417.8128
1796 2418.6043They were2419.3877 
1798 2420.7493I was what they considered from the private homes.2422.9642 
1800 2423.2952They was from the projects2424.5449 
1802 2424.8888down in Simple City.2425.9799 
1804 2426.4229I don't know if you heard it- [That's where they] grew up at.2428.2927 
1805DCB_int_012427.0710[Mm-hm.]2427.5140
1806DCB_se1_ag3_f_012428.9548But2429.3698
1808 2429.7930those were my homies. They still are. Those are my-2432.3902 
1810 2432.6933Those are my girls!2433.6632 
1812 2434.0129Even though we came from two separate sides of the track,2436.1205 
1814 2436.3572that never2437.0007 
1816 2437.7841was a barrier for us.2439.2016 
1818 2439.9430You know, cause like I used to2441.0015 
1820 2441.2672tell th- And I think they got a lot of their work ethics from me because they used to say, are you serious? You're still at work?2446.6797 
1822 2446.8289Oh, uh-huh.2447.4444 
1823DCB_int_012447.5422<laugh>2447.8719
1824DCB_se1_ag3_f_012448.1532I'm not gonna sit at- Whatever has to happen is gonna happen after I get off of work, but I'm going to work. I will party2453.5750
1826 2454.0308one, two o'clock in the morning, but guess what? I'm gonna get up and go to work. It's no calling in.2457.3694 
1827DCB_int_012457.7192[Mm-hm.]2458.0735
1828DCB_se1_ag3_f_012457.8777[It-] it w- That wasn't an option.2459.5657
1829 2459.9096So now- And they're the s-2460.9401
1831 2461.0893exact opposite. I mean, I'm still that way but you know, they that-2464.1295 
1833 2464.3486the2464.5445 
1835 2464.9175direct opposite, but I used to tell them all the- get- Get up off your butt! Do a job. Don't let no- Ain't no man gonna take care of you always.2470.7823 
1836DCB_int_012470.9735Mm-hm.2471.3232
1837DCB_se1_ag3_f_012471.2533That's gonna get tired after awhile,2472.7021
1838 2473.0333and don't no man want no woman that's just gonna sit home and do nothing all day.2476.1994
1840 2476.8476So by all means, get up.2477.8501 
1842 2478.0914[Do what you got to do.] One of 'em is um,2480.0545 
1843DCB_int_012478.1380[/And do something/]2478.7769
1844DCB_se1_ag3_f_012481.6958a leasing2482.2880
1846 2482.4792specialist for Arlington Federal2484.9401 
1848 2485.2805Government2485.7467 
1850 2485.9519Housing Authority.2486.8285 
1852 2487.4860Um,2487.9430 
1854 2488.4372my best friend is now2490.2418 
1856 2490.7815a GM for Lucky Strike.2492.3902 
1858 2493.3088Um,2494.8103 
1860 2495.2439those two are the only ones.2496.3665 
1862 2496.8375Course my sister, she's in home health care.2498.9778 
1864 2499.9710Um, my girlfriend Shawnie, I saw her2502.3304 
1866 2502.5717work the system.2503.5323 
1868 2504.0685She was a single mother of two2506.0269 
1870 2506.7776on public assistance, but she used public assistance2509.5742 
1872 2509.9612to the best of her ability.2511.0990 
1874 2511.5000She started working-2512.7321 
1876 2512.8201Her daughter might have been2513.9807 
1878 2514.7116two at the time.2515.7717 
1880 2515.8962Her youngest daughter was two at the time.2517.4347 
1882 2518.0922And she did the welfare to work program.2520.3386 
1884 2521.1312And she got2521.6655 
1886 2521.7901a job2522.3250 
1888 2522.4166at2522.6731 
1890 2522.8050Virginia Hospital Center2524.3533 
1892 2524.8429out in Virginia in the human resources department. She's now2527.6815 
1894 2528.1851the human resources-2529.4860 
1896 2529.8078Head of human resources over there.2531.7848 
1898 2532.1858So2532.5262 
1900 2532.8282the system,2533.4437 
1902 2533.6535if you use it, it'll [work for you.]2535.5373 
1903DCB_int_012534.6863[Work. Mm-hm.]2535.4667
1904 2535.5513As a hand-2536.1975
1905DCB_se1_ag3_f_012536.1715And when I say she took advantage- And I think that's part of the reason why when I did have to go and sign up for TANF in January,2542.6098
1906 2543.7289I said, I can make it work for me.2545.2059
1907DCB_int_012545.5089Mm-hmm.2545.8447
1908DCB_se1_ag3_f_012545.8726Cause the lady-2546.5394
1910 2546.7539I was feeling kind of bad about going because I'm like,2549.2672 
1912 2550.3106Welfare, me?2551.1312 
1914 2551.2805No! I'm not sup- It's a humbling experience because it makes you realize,2555.2066 
1916 2556.0366you know,2556.4236 
1918 2557.8773it's things that you need to change.2559.3834 
1920 2560.1621It's things that you should have done better.2561.8641 
1922 2562.0448Once again, the [hindsight] is always twenty twenty,2564.0219 
1923DCB_int_012562.5950[Hm.]2562.8188
1924DCB_se1_ag3_f_012564.6607but I was feeling some type of way because that2566.7536
1926 2566.8489wasn't2567.2703 
1928 2567.3655the place where I should have been.2568.8002 
1930 2569.4483I'm- I'm- Like I said, I've always been one to work. I've been working since I was2572.6331 
1932 2572.9828seventeen, eighteen years old.2574.4003 
1933DCB_int_012574.4971Right.2574.8748
1934DCB_se1_ag3_f_012574.9214So, to have to go and do something like that, it opens your eyes to a whole lot.2580.2546
1936 2580.7023But the lady was like, /RD-NAME-3/,2582.0685 
1938 2582.2737<ts>2582.4695 
1940 2582.5674I know2583.2762 
1942 2583.6912that2584.2227 
1944 2586.1754you have a-2586.6090 
1946 2586.7162y- you know, you have reservations about coming down here. She was like, but do you know that you're in the best predicament that you possibly can because2592.9354 
1948 2593.3691TANF will pay for your four year degree.2595.1643 
1950 2597.3931They will pay for it.2598.4190 
1952 2598.9747They pay al- [an- uh-]2600.4342 
1953DCB_int_012599.8000[I did not] know that.2600.6440
1954DCB_se1_ag3_f_012600.7140Yes!2601.1896
1956 2601.7072You- They give you five years to be on the system,2603.9022 
1958 2604.9607and2605.3011 
1960 2605.6368if you can obtain a four a year degree within those five years,2607.9356 
1962 2608.2527they're-2608.6491 
1964 2608.8263they will pay for it as long as it's an accredited school within the District of Columbia.2612.9238 
1966 2613.3108So you can go to Howard. You can go to Trinity. You can go to UDC. You can go to GW. You can go to Georgetown.2618.3782 
1968 2618.8678They will pay for it.2620.3320 
1969DCB_int_012620.8216Amen! I love that.2622.3918
1970DCB_se1_ag3_f_012622.4012I- You love it? I love it too.2624.1591
1971DCB_int_012624.7513I love that.2625.9123
1972DCB_se1_ag3_f_012626.3553[Yes.]2626.9801
1973DCB_int_012626.3553[Um],2626.9801
1974 2627.4919yes m'am? Can we help you?2628.6670
1976 2629.1985[I mean- I mean we're almost done. Can-] Thank you. Thank you. It's not your turn.2632.4999 
1978 2633.8323Yes.2634.3779 
1979DCB_se1_ag3_f_012635.2452[<laugh>]2636.4249
1980DCB_int_012635.2452[<laugh>]2636.4249
1981DCB_se1_ag3_f_012636.6394But yeah-2636.9704
1982DCB_int_012636.9005See, she come in here messing with [my stuff.]2638.7936
1983DCB_se1_ag3_f_012637.8844[<laugh>] Yeah, but they pay for it.2639.9629
1984DCB_int_012640.8208<ts> I did not know that.2642.4155
1985DCB_se1_ag3_f_012642.5927And they-2643.2502
1987 2643.4227while they are paying for it,2644.7656 
1989 2644.9417they will pay you2646.2473 
1991 2646.6110to go to school.2647.5482 
1992DCB_int_012648.4901So you in a- That's a good situation [to be in.]2651.5945
1993DCB_se1_ag3_f_012650.8531[How-]2651.5991
1994 2652.3219And after she said that, it made me feel a little bit [better.]2654.6953
1995DCB_int_012654.3363[Better.]2654.7326
1996DCB_se1_ag3_f_012655.1184Um,2655.4927
1998 2655.6186how they do it now,2656.8356 
2000 2657.9209they make you2658.9607 
2002 2659.3244go to job readiness class.2661.0590 
2003DCB_int_012661.6372Oh, excuse me.2662.3087
2004DCB_se1_ag3_f_012662.2900They make- It's okay.2663.0547
2005 2663.2634<laugh> They make you go to um,2666.1031
2007 2667.2735job readiness-2668.0629 
2009 2669.4686Okay.2669.7810 
2011 2670.3126Depending upon w-2671.0746 
2013 2671.1647Once you do the assessment, cause they give you a s- assessment once you go in-2674.0522 
2015 2674.5174Depending upon where you score at on the assessment,2676.5923 
2017 2676.8395they'll tell you you need skill classes [to get up] to par2680.3133 
2018DCB_int_012679.4227[Mm.]2679.8377
2019DCB_se1_ag3_f_012680.6992or you're ready2681.4313
2021 2682.1354to go to work.2683.0633 
2023 2683.4503So, and then they assign you a vendor.2685.3388 
2025 2685.5813So, if you go to the vendor for at least thirty hours a week,2688.7669 
2027 2689.0773they give you extra seventy five dollars in a-2690.9145 
2029 2691.0683a week in addition to the monthly stipend that they already give you.2694.5504 
2031 2695.7534All you got to do is get off your lazy butt and go [do it.]2697.5719 
2032DCB_int_012697.2642[And go] to work.2697.9123
2033DCB_se1_ag3_f_012698.2667They hadn't even assigned me to a vendor but guess what? I was getting up going to-2701.5837
2035 2701.7188um-2702.2990 
2037 2702.9937What is the name of it?2703.9636 
2039 2704.1781I can't think of the name of the-2705.2646 
2041 2705.4686the-2705.7064 
2043 2706.2939program I was going to.2707.4830 
2045 2708.0845That extra seventy five dollars came in handy.2710.0615 
2046DCB_int_012710.0802Mm-hm.2710.5465
2047DCB_se1_ag3_f_012710.7365That's gas.2711.4899
2048DCB_int_012711.5012I was just- Cause gas is ex-2712.7695
2050 2712.9934[/It ain't cheap./]2714.0565 
2051DCB_se1_ag3_f_012713.1845[Yeah, that- I mean],2714.2244
2052 2714.4062and I'm like, okay.2715.6699
2054 2717.0909How can y'all not take advantage of this?2719.3711 
2055DCB_int_012719.2218Mm-hm.2719.6741
2056DCB_se1_ag3_f_012720.8166And then even when I started going to UDC, as long as I had somebody sign off on my time sheets over there at the Work Force Development building,2727.1150
2058 2727.4227I was still getting my money.2728.3413 
2060 2729.8230And that's how they do it.2730.8908 
2062 2731.6555And2732.0145 
2064 2732.1591when I say people they don't take advantage of it,2734.4579 
2066 2734.6491they don't at [all.]2736.4431 
2067DCB_int_012736.2240[And it's] to better themselves.2737.5576
2068DCB_se1_ag3_f_012737.5716Yeah, and then the- the thing about it is they have2740.2341
2070 2740.3868different locations to do the Work Force Development. I went to PR Har- Over- PR Harris over on South Capitol Street,2746.6106 
2072 2747.1095but they have a Work Force Development office right here on2749.5772 
2074 2749.6638East Capitol Street at the old Shadd Elementary school.2752.0988 
2075DCB_int_012753.1282So it's not even like you got to go anywhere out the [way.]2755.6601
2076DCB_se1_ag3_f_012755.2228[<ts> And when] I say they offer so many things,2757.9776
2077 2758.6013HVAC,2759.5618
2079 2759.7996um,2760.3778 
2081 2760.8861leasing and property management, customer service rep,2763.4927 
2083 2764.0382uh, front desk representative,2765.9354 
2085 2766.0359um-2766.4991 
2087 2767.0679They even have a program where you can do hospitality up at Bertie Backus.2771.1655 
2089 2771.7297Um-2772.4291 
2091 2772.7322What else? (whispered)2773.2311 
2093 2774.0005Computer classes.2775.3481 
2095 2775.7631You can go to be a um,2777.3351 
2097 2778.2659<ts>2778.7415 
2099 2779.3337dialysis technician,2781.0730 
2101 2781.3341um, home health [aid.]2783.3940 
2102DCB_int_012783.2121[So that's] a range of stuff.2784.3685
2103DCB_se1_ag3_f_012784.3219They have- When I say so many things,2787.4787
2104 2787.6465um, carpentry,2789.4173
2106 2790.3265uh- What else? Electrician.2792.8725 
2108 2793.0450I-2793.1942 
2110 2793.3714It's so many things that they offer2795.6877 
2112 2796.0095that-2796.2053 
2114 2797.1799When I see classes half empty,2798.9797 
2116 2799.2129they crazy.2800.0522 
2118 2800.2003I- I just don't get it.2801.2867 
2120 2802.0887And [then not only] do they offer classes during the day, but they offer classes at night [too.]2806.3040 
2121DCB_int_012802.2566[Wow.]2802.9747
2123 2806.0242[To fit] anybody- To2807.2867 
2124 2807.5059really get you [into- mm.]2808.9747
2125DCB_se1_ag3_f_012808.0794[That's why I'm] gonna go and do that leasing property management because2811.5766
2126 2811.8797if I can get that certification2813.4370
2128 2813.7110under my belt2814.4478 
2130 2814.9794accomp- m-2815.6135 
2132 2815.7814along with2816.4001 
2134 2816.4867this2816.7363 
2136 2816.8264front desk one that I already have and my customer service experience,2819.9768 
2138 2820.2753I can live,2820.7369 
2140 2821.3477you know, way on2822.1591 
2142 2822.3549what my salary would be.2823.6092 
2143DCB_int_012823.8750Mm-hm, [cause you'll have] more /in there/- [You can] bargain. Say, no, look. This is what I bring to the table.2828.7326
2144DCB_se1_ag3_f_012824.4194[And-]2824.7132
2146 2825.3800[Mm-hm.]2825.9675 
2147 2828.7932Right.2829.2922
2148DCB_int_012829.2222Yup, [and people] don't do that enough. Like,2831.2727
2149DCB_se1_ag3_f_012829.5766[It-]2829.8097
2150DCB_int_012831.9395build your skills because people will pay you.2834.7279
2151DCB_se1_ag3_f_012834.8585[Mm-hm.]2835.3621
2152DCB_int_012835.1802[You] know, saying if you have x, y, and z people will be like, hey. Look.2839.0462
2153DCB_se1_ag3_f_012839.1053And I'm [going-]2839.7534
2154DCB_int_012839.4503[We need to] keep her.2840.2990
2155DCB_se1_ag3_f_012840.3596Not only am I gonna do that, I'm gonna go back to Byte Back2843.4219
2157 2843.5991and do um,2844.8208 
2159 2845.7814office track2846.6906 
2161 2846.9051where-2847.2455 
2163 2847.4180I'm good with um, Word,2849.3380 
2164DCB_int_012849.4499Mm-hm,2849.7530
2165DCB_se1_ag3_f_012850.0514and I'm good with-2851.4363
2167 2852.7606Word and it's another one that I'm good with (whispered)-2854.7750 
2169 2854.9137But as far as2856.2006 
2171 2856.8628Power Point and Excel, I'm not good with but they offer all of those in one class.2861.1142 
2173 2861.4592And once you complete the class, they give you a free computer.2864.0472 
2175 2865.0916What more can you ask [for.]2866.5651 
2176DCB_int_012866.2154[For.]2866.5511
2177 2866.7412Right, [and now you know what to] do-2868.0328
2178DCB_se1_ag3_f_012867.0349[You going to school-]2867.7717
2180 2868.0281You going to school [for free], and they gonna give you a free computer.2870.4855 
2181DCB_int_012868.6809[Yeah.]2869.0586
2182DCB_se1_ag3_f_012871.4460Take advantage of it.2872.2620
2183DCB_int_012872.4241That's great.2873.2168
2185 2873.6364That is great. And how long is the class?2875.2591 
2186DCB_se1_ag3_f_012875.7301Six weeks.2876.4622
2187DCB_int_012877.0264That is nothing.2877.8937
2189 2879.1235That is no- How often? Is like, once a week, twice a week?2881.9213 
2190DCB_se1_ag3_f_012882.1870When I did the beginners one and two-2884.0848
2192 2884.2562I did that just to2885.0069 
2194 2885.1935do something cause I knew all the stuff (laughing).2887.0819 
2196 2887.5576Um,2887.9725 
2198 2888.6020we went on Mondays- Mondays and Wednesdays.2891.2261 
2199DCB_int_012891.4686So just twice a week. That is [good.]2893.4363
2200DCB_se1_ag3_f_012893.0353[I did] that. I did my-2894.5041
2201 2894.6440on Mondays and Wednesdays I did that class, and then2897.1841
2203 2897.6924Monday though Thursday,2899.0959 
2205 2899.9119we were in-2900.8259 
2207 2901.3155I was in my class at UDC.2902.6526 
2209 2902.8531I would go to one from UDC from nine to one,2904.8395 
2211 2905.2638and then-2905.7534 
2213 2906.3316No, nine to twelve, and then at one o'clock, my computer class would start so I'd go from one to three to that.2910.8861 
2215 2911.3151That's my day.2912.1124 
2216DCB_int_012912.5181Mm-hm.2912.9844
2217DCB_se1_ag3_f_012913.3434Other than that, I be just sitting in the house looking crazy.2915.5945
2218DCB_int_012915.9675And the good thing about that is2917.5762
2220 2917.6695most jobs,2918.6393 
2222 2918.9518basic financial stuff, is Excel.2920.7458 
2224 2921.2028Most- When you give presentations, that's [Power Point.]2923.5482 
2225DCB_se1_ag3_f_012922.8814[Power Point.]2923.3990
2226DCB_int_012923.7534And then if you can type-2924.6906
2228 2925.0823You know what I mean? Like, you can run2926.9090 
2229DCB_se1_ag3_f_012926.9090Mm-hm.2927.3707
2230DCB_int_012927.3846the- You can manage the office or manage the business because those are your basic things. You got to be able to sell and market your product [and be able to] present about it.2934.9234
2231DCB_se1_ag3_f_012933.5152[Mm-hm.]2934.1307
2232DCB_int_012935.2405You got to make sure your books are right,2936.6580
2234 2936.9191and you got to just make sure you report- Do you know what I [mean?]2939.0721 
2235DCB_se1_ag3_f_012938.8344[Mm-hm.]2939.2494
2236DCB_int_012939.3427And that's great- I didn't know about that serv- That is awesome.2942.1824
2238 2942.5041And people don't take adv- Like you said. And sometimes I think it's ignorance and sometimes it's laziness. Sometimes they just don't know it's there,2947.9166 
2240 2948.1264but sometimes they know and they're just like, uh, I don't care, and that's the ones that really make me mad.2952.2100 
2241DCB_se1_ag3_f_012952.2100And then the thing about it is,2953.4909
2242 2953.5775a lot of the times2954.6300
2244 2955.4414the city won't let the people know about these [programs. You got to go and research] it for [yourself, but-]2959.5809 
2245DCB_int_012957.2494[Mm, that's- Mm-hm.]2958.4338
2247 2959.0959[Yourself.]2959.4550 
2248DCB_se1_ag3_f_012960.1124And not everybody is gonna do the research.2962.1921
2250 2962.5127You have some that you have to take by the hand2964.7182 
2252 2965.0959[and lead 'em] to [it.]2966.1264 
2253DCB_int_012965.0959[Mm.]2965.5342
2255 2965.9166[Mm-hm.]2966.3969 
2256DCB_se1_ag3_f_012966.4342And-2966.6953
2258 2966.9191And once you lead it to 'em, it's left up to them whether or not they gonna take it-2970.1508 
2260 2970.2478Some will, some [won't.]2971.4561 
2261DCB_int_012971.2125[Mm.]2971.4969
2262DCB_se1_ag3_f_012972.6720I know I did.2973.3220
2264 2973.3913I- I did the research cause I-2974.8461 
2266 2974.9362I-2975.1189 
2268 2975.3660Sitting at home was not a [option] for me,2977.1426 
2269DCB_int_012976.4230[Option.]2976.7522
2270 2977.5296[Kudos to you.]2978.4342
2271DCB_se1_ag3_f_012977.6088[and plus]2978.2290
2273 2978.3922um-2978.9051 
2274 2980.3087It was a dramatic effect on /RD-NAME-1/, too.2982.8255
2275DCB_int_012982.9980Mm.2983.3664
2276DCB_se1_ag3_f_012983.8746When he would see me- okay, Mommy just throwing on something to take me back-2986.7983
2278 2987.0256take me to school, and she coming back home so I'm'a act up in school so I can go back home with her.2990.9051 
2280 2991.3947No.2991.8144 
2281DCB_int_012992.4194[Mm.]2992.8857
2282DCB_se1_ag3_f_012992.4521[It's] not gonna happen.2993.6737
2283DCB_int_012993.7017[Mm-hm.]2994.1214
2284DCB_se1_ag3_f_012993.9209[Cause he] was used to Mommy getting up, dropping him off at school. She going to work, come back and picking him up, not going home.2999.0489
2285 2999.4359So once he saw that3001.1286
2287 3001.7581I was back doing some of the regular routines, he got a little bit3004.8962 
2289 3005.1608you know, [better of it because]3006.3265 
2290DCB_int_013005.6038[Mm-hm.]3005.9862
2291DCB_se1_ag3_f_013006.6343our situation3007.5156
2293 3007.9772can have a dramatic effect on our children3009.9543 
2295 3010.3914in so many ways. You might think-3012.2706 
2297 3012.5550Well I- at least I thought,3013.7860 
2299 3014.1731he's not paying attention to me. [You know, he's l-]3016.1828 
2300DCB_int_013015.6092[Oh. <gasp>]3016.5080
2301DCB_se1_ag3_f_013016.5080But he3017.0207
2302 3017.1420[clearly was.]3018.4280
2303DCB_int_013017.3893[Every little thing.]3018.8162
2304DCB_se1_ag3_f_013018.8768He clearly was, and I was like, okay. I got to do something about this.3022.9382
2306 3023.4872[And I did.]3024.1960 
2307DCB_int_013023.5199[Mm.]3023.9545
2308DCB_se1_ag3_f_013024.5783Cause that's my baby. He my only baby. <laugh>3026.7326
2309DCB_int_013027.0170Oh, he Momma's little [boy.]3028.9976
2310DCB_se1_ag3_f_013028.8158[And] I'm not- I knew when I was pregnant with him, I wasn't having any more kids.3031.8093
2311DCB_int_013031.9586You're done?3032.4761
2312DCB_se1_ag3_f_013032.6207Uh-uh.3032.9191
2313DCB_int_013033.3201<laugh> [I have] one. I understand. [I understand.]3036.4851
2314DCB_se1_ag3_f_013034.2935[If-]3034.6899
2316 3035.6318[If they would have tied] my tubes then-3037.8560 
2317DCB_int_013037.5156[<laugh> I understand.]3039.5952
2318DCB_se1_ag3_f_013038.4482[do you know-]3039.5300
2319 3040.0102They gonna tell me, no, we can't do that cause you only have [one and] you're [not married.]3043.9213
2320DCB_int_013042.7975[One.]3043.1053
2322 3043.3058[Mm-hm.]3043.8886 
2323DCB_se1_ag3_f_013044.6580I know what I'm'a have. <laugh> Let me have my moment3048.9467
2325 3049.3104cause he came early, and the lady when they were wheeling me in the d- labor and delivery room,3052.9510 
2327 3053.2587Well next time, you're gonna have to have a cerclage done. I said, there will be no next time.3056.9005 
2329 3057.3295So guess- Miss me with all of that.3059.2821 
2331 3059.4919[So it's] not gonna be a next [time. <laugh>]3062.9844 
2332DCB_int_013059.5898[Uh-huh.]3060.2006
2334 3061.0340[<laugh>]3062.9844 
2335 3063.4041I'm'a ask you a couple more things cause I don't want to take too much more of your time, but um,3067.7254
2337 3068.1358let's talk about a couple fun things. [So one of]- One big thing that's a DC thing is go go music.3074.3829 
2338DCB_se1_ag3_f_013069.8797[Okay.]3070.3739
2340 3074.3176Yes! [<laugh>]3079.0167 
2341DCB_int_013075.7305[Okay. Obviously you know what I'm talking about.]3078.2799
2342 3079.0540So tell me your experience with go go. How did you- What was your first time? What do you think about it? Do you like? Do you not like it- [Obviously you like it.]3086.9611
2343DCB_se1_ag3_f_013085.9213[I l- I love go go.]3088.2387
2344DCB_int_013087.3388[You love it.]3087.9543
2345DCB_se1_ag3_f_013088.7598Not-3089.1748
2347 3089.5945The go go now is not the go go3091.9959 
2349 3092.2616that I grew up on.3093.3807 
2350DCB_int_013093.5113Mm. What do you mean? Sh- Tell me the difference cause I've heard a lot of different things.3097.6601
2351DCB_se1_ag3_f_013097.9119<sigh>3098.4435
2353 3101.5339The lyrics.3102.8908 
2355 3105.3155The dances.3106.6071 
2357 3109.0913The atmosphere as a whole.3110.8538 
2358DCB_int_013111.5486Hm.3111.8424
2359DCB_se1_ag3_f_013112.0196We could go to the go go3113.9815
2361 3114.3778and everybody would party together.3116.4155 
2363 3117.0730You might have a fight here and there,3119.1841 
2365 3119.7110you might not.3120.3172 
2367 3121.2125But everybody was there to do the w- had one common goal, and that was to party.3125.7017 
2369 3126.6903I grew up with3127.9306 
2371 3128.1964my first- very first band- My brother worked at Crystal Skates,3131.8201 
2373 3132.5177and3132.9420 
2375 3133.4876they would have the go go bands on the back skating rink.3136.0336 
2377 3136.9650And Trouble Funk was my very first go go I went to. I may have been in like, the eighth grade.3142.9242 
2379 3143.5478But I was with my big brother, and we were partying.3146.1358 
2381 3146.4435Even though my mother came to get me at twelve o'clock,3147.9480 
2383 3148.3846[but- <laugh>]3149.6691 
2384DCB_int_013148.3846[<laugh>]3149.6691
2385DCB_se1_ag3_f_013150.3312Um,3150.9141
2387 3151.0819I remember3152.3782 
2389 3152.8911when I got a little older, maybe3154.3506 
2391 3154.6479twenty one, twenty two,3157.0167 
2393 3157.7767I remember Rhythms Night Club3159.4973 
2395 3160.1268out in Landover.3161.3613 
2397 3162.2100All ladies were free before eleven.3163.9725 
2399 3164.3269Of course me and my girlfriends were, one two three four and five in line3167.5525 
2401 3167.7483<laugh>3169.3104 
2403 3169.5016for the free one. I remember when they lost their liquor license but we could bring3174.1862 
2405 3174.3144alcohol in our water bottles.3176.5228 
2407 3177.4227And3178.3133 
2409 3179.1049we would just party. When I say party- Oh my God, we would just party.3183.2595 
2411 3183.9543I remember the East Side down Southwest.3186.8395 
2413 3187.3104I remember the Black Hole up Northwest.3189.6139 
2415 3189.7491I remember Triples Night Club that used to be on Branch Avenue.3195.1942 
2417 3196.5546<sigh> I remember when down Southwest when they built the Nat Stadium and all of [that.]3201.0404 
2418DCB_int_013200.7699[Mm-hm.]3201.2315
2419DCB_se1_ag3_f_013201.6745Um, the Mirage was down- That was one of the big night [clubs.]3205.4410
2420DCB_int_013204.9887[I've heard about] that before.3206.4342
2421DCB_se1_ag3_f_013206.9284I remember the Mirage.3208.6024
2423 3210.6763I remember the Ibex, up on-3212.7326 
2425 3212.9191in uh, Northwest that used to sit right on the corner of Georgia Avenue and New Hampshire Avenue.3218.5088 
2427 3220.1968Um-3221.7856 
2428DCB_int_013221.7856That's where the Georgia uh- Georgia Avenue metro station is now.3225.4274
2430 3226.1268Like right-3226.6257 
2432 3226.9930You [said Georgia] and New Hampshire-3227.8556 
2433DCB_se1_ag3_f_013227.1095[It's a-]3227.5432
2434DCB_int_013228.0095But right [somewhere in there- Mm-hm.]3229.7581
2435DCB_se1_ag3_f_013228.6250[Yeah, right up in that area.] Um,3230.3829
2436DCB_int_013230.9005[Cause we have a Club] over there.3232.0662
2437DCB_se1_ag3_f_013230.9284[I remember-]3231.5626
2438 3232.3308I remember3233.6178
2440 3234.6250<ts>3234.7462 
2442 3235.3850going to the3236.0285 
2444 3236.2850high schools,3237.1429 
2446 3237.4740Catholic schools,3238.3833 
2447DCB_int_013238.5733Mm-hm.3238.8671
2448DCB_se1_ag3_f_013239.0069where I went-3239.4919
2450 3239.9535They used to have the bands there.3241.4969 
2452 3241.9073We could party.3242.8398 
2454 3243.7584I remember home coming.3245.0721 
2456 3245.4779We had go go bands every year for home coming.3247.8746 
2458 3249.0963Um,3250.0755 
2460 3250.8298[<ts>]3251.0163 
2461DCB_int_013250.8437[So it] was a big thing- [It was DC It was-] It was-3254.3875
2462DCB_se1_ag3_f_013252.6156[Yeah!]3253.4596
2463DCB_int_013254.5787It was the [thing.]3256.0056
2464DCB_se1_ag3_f_013255.5579[Mm-hm.]3256.0102
2465 3256.1781Um, some of the be-3257.1748
2467 3257.6085We had, when we first went- go go first came about, you had Air Raid,3261.3388 
2469 3262.0417Trouble Funk,3263.0721 
2471 3263.4080Junk Yard.3264.4058 
2472DCB_int_013264.9327I know [Junk Yard.]3265.9819
2473DCB_se1_ag3_f_013265.2451[Um],3266.0518
2474 3266.8165<ts> it's not the same Junk Yard.3268.0009
2475DCB_int_013268.3215Oh, different- [Okay.]3269.2541
2476DCB_se1_ag3_f_013268.9277[How they] came up3269.7623
2477 3269.9395was3270.5457
2479 3271.3431they used to play in front of the subway stations3273.5486 
2481 3273.8004beating on-3274.6246 
2483 3275.5385You know the big paint buckets?3276.9933 
2484DCB_int_013277.1146Mm-hm.3277.4410
2485DCB_se1_ag3_f_013277.7907The white plastic [ones?]3279.0963
2486DCB_int_013278.7233[Mm-hm.]3279.1616
2487DCB_se1_ag3_f_013279.3668That's how they got their start.3280.3600
2488DCB_int_013280.4567And that's why they was called Junk [Yard.]3281.7903
2489DCB_se1_ag3_f_013281.4686[Mm-hm.]3281.9069
2490 3282.8721Um, Trouble Funk,3283.9073
2492 3284.4342Essence has always been [around.]3286.0635 
2493DCB_int_013285.7724[I know] Essence.3286.8169
2494DCB_se1_ag3_f_013287.0582Um,3287.9535
2496 3289.3897Northeast Groovers.3290.8398 
2497DCB_int_013290.9657Mm-hm.3291.5346
2498DCB_se1_ag3_f_013292.6945Who else?3293.7903
2500 3295.0400Um,3295.7907 
2502 3296.4761<ts>3296.7699 
2504 3297.4414I remember Fat Rodney used to3299.3827 
2506 3299.5109rap with one of the go go bands.3301.4494 
2508 3301.7487Um,3302.9424 
2510 3304.3122I'm trying to think.3305.0816 
2512 3305.3986I was a go go fanatic. Chuck Brown. [Oh!]3307.6573 
2513DCB_int_013307.2731[Mm!]3307.6928
2514 3307.8980<laugh>3308.2030
2515DCB_se1_ag3_f_013308.2943I remember,3309.1616
2517 3309.6745at one time,3310.6584 
2519 3311.0769if Chuck or Essence wasn't playing at the Cabaret,3313.4876 
2521 3313.6368I wasn't going. <laugh>3314.8911 
2522DCB_int_013315.1942Okay.3315.6512
2523DCB_se1_ag3_f_013315.7771I remember3316.5558
2525 3316.8251partying with Chuck right up front,3318.4385 
2527 3319.3710dancing, having a good time.3321.3528 
2529 3322.4008And when he died, I was just like, there go go go music down hill (whispering).3325.2638 
2531 3325.5016Um,3326.3502 
2533 3327.1802let me see. It was another- Before Bella Donna came along, there was another all girl group3331.4456 
2535 3332.0192um, go go band. I can't think of the name of it.3334.2807 
2537 3334.9463Um, there used to be a famous rapper that used to um,3337.2731 
2539 3338.1078rap with Essence called Stinky Dink.3339.9683 
2541 3341.3380<laugh>3342.8395 
2542DCB_int_013343.1146My go go is very [limited],3344.7186
2543DCB_se1_ag3_f_013344.1731[<laugh>]3344.7046
2544DCB_int_013344.8585[but I'm learning] more and more every day.3346.5884
2545DCB_se1_ag3_f_013344.8772[Uh-huh.]3345.6559
2547 3346.5873I'm trying to think-3347.4219 
2548 3347.5245Uh- Go go is just-3348.7509
2550 3349.3617If you hear go go, you know that's DC.3350.9191 
2552 3351.3434Point blank.3351.9030 
2554 3352.1641Now actually,3352.7481 
2556 3352.8208just this past weekend, DC did-3354.6716 
2558 3355.0120DC take over Miami,3356.3922 
2560 3357.0637where Back Yard band played in Miami.3359.0163 
2561DCB_int_013359.8276I did not [know that]!3361.4550
2562DCB_se1_ag3_f_013360.6390[They called it- They] had- It was-3362.1777
2563 3362.4528The weekend that just passed was called DC Take Over.3364.8531
2564DCB_int_013365.6831Wow. And why do- Is there anything else you can think of it that's like DC that other people- that's just not really-3371.6831
2565DCB_se1_ag3_f_013373.0167Chicken wings and mumbo [sauce.]3374.4482
2566DCB_int_013374.3223[Mumbo] sauce?3375.0543
2567DCB_se1_ag3_f_013375.0870<laugh>3377.2448
2568DCB_int_013377.4173I had no clue what that [was. I didn't] know go go,3380.5647
2569DCB_se1_ag3_f_013378.9141[<laugh>]3379.6788
2570DCB_int_013380.8865I didn't know mumbo sauce.3382.3273
2571DCB_se1_ag3_f_013382.7598Chicken wings and mumbo sauce.3384.3592
2572DCB_int_013384.8022Where did that come from?3385.7627
2573DCB_se1_ag3_f_013386.0099Your guess is as good as mine. [Cause I don't eat mumbo sauce. Give me so me hot sauce. <laugh>]3390.2146
2574DCB_int_013386.9410[mine- <laugh>]3389.6929
2576 3390.2006It's real- If they make it too sweet, it's not- If it's sweet and spicy, just the right- I like it.3395.6224 
2577 3395.9628But if it's too sweet, I'm just like, ew. I could this is [like sugar.]3399.3015
2578DCB_se1_ag3_f_013398.3969[And one of the big] landmarks that used to be in this area too, was um, the Chef's Table.3403.3244
2579DCB_int_013403.8606Mm-hm, yeah like a block or two from [here.]3406.0060
2580DCB_se1_ag3_f_013405.8564[Yes.] We used to-3407.3660
2581 3407.6411That was like3408.2193
2583 3408.5783the 'it' place to go.3410.1964 
2585 3410.9657It was like one of the fancy restaurants back in the day because that was like, one of the only restaurants that sold chitlins.3417.0497 
2587 3417.3901They had chitlins and pig feet on the f- buffet bar. [<laugh>]3422.5228 
2588DCB_int_013421.0063[Wow.]3421.5088
2589 3422.5507See that's what I know- I'm from down south, so that's what I know.3425.0721
2590DCB_se1_ag3_f_013425.1608Mm-hm.3425.9582
2591DCB_int_013425.9395Um-3426.2333
2592DCB_se1_ag3_f_013426.2240Chitlins,3426.8495
2593 3426.9049pig feet.3427.9213
2595 3428.3176<sigh?>3428.8725 
2597 3429.2875I eat chitlins. I eat- I don't eat pig feet, but I eat chitlins.3432.2659 
2599 3432.5317And I cook 'em.3433.0819 
2601 3433.3337[I eat pig tails.]3434.2710 
2602DCB_int_013433.3337[Oof. And your ha-] And your house be stank up.3435.6960
2603 3435.8346Mm.3436.4194
2604DCB_se1_ag3_f_013436.7039/RD-NAME-1/ eats all that stuff too, pig tails, [chitlins.]3439.1472
2605DCB_int_013438.5317[Oh okay. So he] don't even mind.3439.9959
2606DCB_se1_ag3_f_013440.1497Mm-mm.3440.5368
2608 3441.0170He don't [mind.]3441.7305 
2609DCB_int_013441.3388[He know], oh, Momma cooking some chitlins today.3443.5572
2610DCB_se1_ag3_f_013443.5525Mm-hm.3443.9302
2611 3444.1121And I feel sorry for when he gets older cause whoever his girlfriend or wife is gonna be, she's gonna have to know how to cook.3449.2001
2612DCB_int_013449.5758Mm-hm.3449.9069
2614 3450.5224She can't step. She can't half step with it.3452.3223 
2615DCB_se1_ag3_f_013452.3502Cause he's gonna come out and tell her, my mother don't cook-3454.0942
2617 3454.4940Mm, I'm going to my mother's house. [<laugh>]3457.1379 
2618DCB_int_013456.1773[Right?]3456.5457
2620 3456.8395[Oh I'm sorry], we doing a microwave meal? Oh, [mm-mm.] Mommy, I'm on my way. Thanks.3460.8904 
2621DCB_se1_ag3_f_013458.9611[Mm-mm.]3459.4367
2622DCB_int_013461.2168Um, okay.3461.9908
2624 3462.2240Last thing, what's your favorite television show and why?3464.5321 
2625DCB_se1_ag3_f_013468.0981I'm trying to think.3469.0679
2627 3470.2710What is it- Something that I-3471.6559 
2629 3472.4007<laugh>3472.8064 
2630DCB_int_013473.1980Or your favorite book.3474.0980
2631DCB_se1_ag3_f_013474.7554My favorite book-3475.4829
2633 3476.1730I have a favorite TV show too. But [my favorite] book is The Coldest Winter Ever3479.5617 
2634DCB_int_013477.3014[Oh.]3477.6604
2635DCB_se1_ag3_f_013479.8975by um, Sister Souljah.3481.5248
2636DCB_int_013482.8258Somebody just recommended I read that- It was [like a week ago.]3485.5804
2637DCB_se1_ag3_f_013484.6338[Aw!]3485.2680
2638 3485.7902[I have read it-]3486.7741
2639DCB_int_013485.7949[I have never read it.]3486.7927
2640DCB_se1_ag3_f_013486.9420I mean so many3489.2408
2642 3489.6698times.3490.4531 
2644 3490.9183It's just the plight of this little black girl that3493.0818 
2646 3493.5155was used to having it all, but then her family lost it all, and she had to get out there and fend for herself.3499.0119 
2648 3499.5248When I say good read? Aw, yes.3501.7350 
2650 3502.1360That one and um,3503.8042 
2652 3504.4384<ts>3504.6668 
2654 3505.4968a book by Tracy Brown called White Lines.3507.9122 
2656 3508.3494That book is [good too.]3509.6410 
2657DCB_int_013508.9369[/Do I know that?/ (whispered)]3510.0951
2658 3510.4990That sounds so familiar.3511.8046
2659DCB_se1_ag3_f_013511.8279I read [that-]3512.7372
2660DCB_int_013512.1916[What's that about?]3512.7838
2661DCB_se1_ag3_f_013512.9377Um, it was about a girl3514.4018
2663 3514.8530that g- I think she grew up from not having anything and then she ended up3518.3222 
2665 3518.9983marrying someone that was big in a gang.3521.4452 
2667 3522.1819And it talked about the trials and tribulations through all of that.3524.9330 
2669 3525.5532I used to- Before I had /RD-NAME-1/, I mean,3527.0860 
2671 3527.3519I was reading two or three books a week.3528.9979 
2673 3529.6880Um,3530.0284 
2675 3530.2056my favorite movie is The Color Purple.3531.8236 
2677 3533.4592<sneeze>3533.9208 
2679 3534.4897/RD-NAME-1/ [likes that] too3535.4083 
2680DCB_int_013534.7694[Woo-woo.]3535.1751
2681DCB_se1_ag3_f_013535.6274cause he watched it, and he embarrassed me in the store one day. He was about3539.1561
2683 3539.3426three.3539.6876 
2685 3540.3311Mom, we gonna go home and watch Purple Color? [<laugh>]3544.9800 
2686DCB_int_013542.9936[<laugh>]3545.0686
2687DCB_se1_ag3_f_013545.1980You don't (whispered) tell people we- I ain't got you watching (whispered) [Color Purple.]3547.6787
2688DCB_int_013547.4697[<laugh>]3548.9050
2689DCB_se1_ag3_f_013547.9725[<laugh>]3548.9050
2690 3550.1081<ts> But, The Color Purple,3551.3519
2692 3551.8742and I like3553.0166 
2694 3553.9678the little drama shows.3555.3154 
2696 3555.5532I like Love and Hiphop.3556.7749 
2698 3557.0022That- I mean, just to see their ratchetness and their drama.3560.2196 
2700 3560.8864Love and Hiphop. I like Empire.3562.9800 
2702 3563.5384I haven't watched any of the season of Power this year. I started watching it last night, but I like Power.3568.4624 
2704 3568.8343But for the- I like cooking shows.3570.4290 
2705DCB_int_013570.7275Mm.3571.0026
2706DCB_se1_ag3_f_013571.8652Cooking shows or,3572.9470
2708 3573.1335I'm a Tyler Perry fanatic.3574.4718 
2710 3575.3892I wake up on a Saturday, and I'm looking for his movies. I don't care if it's I Can Do Bad All By Myself, Daddy's Little Girl.3581.9394 
2712 3582.3451You name it,3583.0306 
2714 3583.1378if it's him, I'm gonna watch it.3584.8211 
2716 3585.4832Um-3585.8842 
2717DCB_int_013585.8936I just did a project on Meet the Browns, the play? [I did] a project on [Brown and] Will,3590.6999
2718DCB_se1_ag3_f_013588.3218[Uh-huh.]3588.6715
2720 3589.5994[<cough> <cough>]3590.3082 
2721DCB_int_013591.1428[um],3591.5159
2722DCB_se1_ag3_f_013591.2081[Mm-hm.]3591.5066
2723DCB_int_013591.7257and their interaction in the movie. It was- It was actually- Cause it made me look at it differently.3595.6311
2724DCB_se1_ag3_f_013595.6600Mm-hm.3596.0517
2725DCB_int_013595.9911Like studying it versus like, I'm just watching this hanging out with my friends and we [laughing] about it.3600.2798
2726DCB_se1_ag3_f_013599.5291[Right.]3599.9348
2727DCB_int_013600.7508But it was like, so funny cause as I was presenting like, a lot of my classmates hadn't seen it, so I'm presenting and their like, huh?3605.8881
2729 3606.2938What? And they busting out laughing, and I'm like,3608.3408 
2731 3608.8444oh cause you haven't ever seen this before.3610.5639 
2733 3610.8996Cracking up.3611.4965 
2734DCB_se1_ag3_f_013611.5198I remember- That was one of the memories I have3613.7347
2736 3614.0657before my mom passed. We went to go see Meet the Browns at Warner Theater.3617.2307 
2737DCB_int_013617.2680Mm! Mm-hm.3617.9960
2738DCB_se1_ag3_f_013618.0047Uh-huh.3618.5689
2740 3619.0912That and-3619.5854 
2742 3619.8139I'm trying to think, cause it was something that I did the other day and I was like, I remember when me and-3623.4032 
2744 3623.7483I remember- My mother is the one that took me to see The Color Purple3626.2056 
2745DCB_int_013627.5952[Wow.]3628.3086
2746DCB_se1_ag3_f_013627.6045[when it first came] out in nineteen eighty five. <laugh>3630.1353
2747DCB_int_013630.5726Wow.3631.0439
2749 3631.1285So how- You were what?3632.1543 
2751 3632.3315Eleven? Ten?3633.1475 
2753 3633.5019When it first came out.3634.2899 
2754DCB_se1_ag3_f_013634.7877How old am I now?3635.6317
2756 3635.7949I'm forty two now? Yeah.3636.9559 
2758 3637.1798It was about that.3637.7673 
2759DCB_int_013638.3735Mm-hm.3639.0822
2760DCB_se1_ag3_f_013639.0822Yeah, I was actually- No,3640.7142
2761 3641.0721I was twelve3641.9021
2763 3642.3591when it came out.3643.0352 
2764DCB_int_013643.2357Oh, so that's like a very r- Cause Celie was like,3645.4180
2766 3645.6931in the- the first part of it, she's about eleven, twelve.3648.8534 
2767DCB_se1_ag3_f_013648.9280Mm-hm. I love The Color Purple.3650.5460
2768DCB_int_013650.7698Where'd you first see it? Did y'all go to the movies to [see it?]3652.7830
2769DCB_se1_ag3_f_013652.4100[We went to] a movie theater up in Georgetown. I remember it was like,3655.5062
2770 3655.7673like it was yesterday.3657.0263
2772 3657.3900Cause my mother- That was my ace. We did our shopping together.3661.0865 
2774 3661.8512She taught me how to cook,3663.5345 
2776 3663.8003even though my dad did too, but she taught me how to cook.3665.9301 
2778 3666.6342She just taught me how to be a lady.3667.8932 
2780 3668.5880Some days it work, somedays it don't. [<laugh>]3672.6342 
2781DCB_int_013670.7224[/Amen/]3671.1747
2783 3671.3426[You know, we all have them days.] [We have 'em- Honey, I] understand.3674.4201 
2784DCB_se1_ag3_f_013672.9093[Mm-hm.]3673.7720
2786 3674.3968But like I tell any of these kids out here nowadays,3677.0860 
2787 3677.3706you have to be versatile3678.7181
2788DCB_int_013678.9233Mm-hm.3679.3057
2789DCB_se1_ag3_f_013679.5295in your interaction with anybody.3681.3527
2790DCB_int_013681.4180Yup.3681.7397
2791DCB_se1_ag3_f_013681.7584You have to get out here and be lily white with the best of 'em.3684.2565
2793 3684.9559And you can- It's okay for you to be ratchet and ghetto fabulous with your girlfriends but there's a time and a place for it.3689.8229 
2794DCB_int_013690.0980That's the key, the time and place. And knowing how3692.7512
2796 3693.0682cause guess what? As much as they playing the game,3695.0860 
2798 3695.6737we got to play the game too. And the problem is we don't realize that we getting played, and then we get [messed up.]3700.9241 
2799DCB_se1_ag3_f_013700.2153[But you know the] sad part about it is,3702.2285
2800 3702.9280it's our own kind that- that3704.4667
2802 3705.1475that3705.3807 
2804 3705.6464gets us3706.3832 
2806 3706.6898because I worked at the /RD-WORK-2/ in Croften. I was doing my training there,3710.6905 
2808 3711.8563and3712.3552 
2810 3712.6198the manager, she was3713.8135 
2812 3714.0001of African American descent, and3715.9725 
2814 3718.1967she was one of those ones that thought that she- Because she worked out in Croften, and she lived in that area- in Annapolis area, whatever, that she was a little bit better than3725.8042 
2816 3726.0747you know,3726.4011 
2817DCB_int_013726.4850[Mm-hm.]3726.9699
2818DCB_se1_ag3_f_013726.7648[I] was.3727.3383
2819 3728.0937So, I had a customer that came in-3730.1687
2821 3730.3785Rules are rules.3731.3146 
2823 3731.6643You know?3732.1539 
2824DCB_int_013732.7508/??/3733.0772
2825DCB_se1_ag3_f_013733.0632It all depends upon3734.4201
2826 3734.6719when-3735.2501
2828 3735.7024You know, sometimes we can bend 'em, sometimes we can't.3737.8835 
2829DCB_int_013738.0047Mm-hm.3738.2938
2830DCB_se1_ag3_f_013738.2845But this lady had clearly3739.7486
2831 3739.9864worn whatever it was. We couldn't take it back.3742.0381
2833 3742.6991So then the manager comes over and was like, I'll take her.3745.3523 
2835 3745.9258So she took her, and she ended up taking the stuff back.3747.9903 
2837 3748.1629First of all, you went against what I had already told her.3750.5176 
2839 3751.1891We in management, we got to stick together.3752.9190 
2840DCB_int_013753.0403Mm-hm.3753.4506
2841DCB_se1_ag3_f_013753.4040So if I tell her no, you need to tell her the exact same thing. I don't care if you're the store manager or not.3757.5295
2842DCB_int_013757.7300Right.3758.0937
2843DCB_se1_ag3_f_013758.4574But then she came back over, and she was like-3760.6618
2845 3761.1747<ts> Yeah, she aksed me were you from DC?3763.3150 
2847 3765.1242I said,3766.0101 
2849 3766.8810And how would she know anything like that?3768.7788 
2851 3769.7393She said, she could tell that you was from Southeast DC.3772.1930 
2853 3772.2727I said, you lying.3773.2866 
2855 3774.3824Because I know one- No way, shape, form, or fashion ever came out my mouth with anything slang3779.6037 
2857 3780.2705or anything hood.3781.2124 
2859 3781.3430I know how to present myself in front of anybody.3783.2011 
2861 3783.2905You had to have said something to her3785.0675 
2863 3785.4918cause you're the only one that I know have a problem with it.3787.9585 
2864DCB_int_013788.1730Mm-hm.3788.7279
2865DCB_se1_ag3_f_013789.2175And needless to say, a week later I quit.3791.2307
2867 3791.5804I couldn't do it.3792.4057 
2869 3793.8186Because we got to support each other. We got to be there for each other. We-3796.8308 
2871 3797.0022If we don't uplift each other,3798.6902 
2873 3799.2497[nobody else is gonna do it]!3800.7139 
2874DCB_int_013799.4735[Mm-hm. Nobody else is gonna] do it. Right. It starts within.3802.1827
2875DCB_se1_ag3_f_013802.1454That's why when /RD-NAME-3/ called me and was like, do you mind doing it? I said, not at all, especially if it's has- has anything with3807.6744
2876 3807.9029somebody furthering their education.3809.9068
2878 3810.6622I have no problem with it at all. [So if you need me again, let me know.]3814.4955 
2879DCB_int_013812.7139[Well I really appreciate it.]3814.4531