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1DCB_int_010.5018Mkay. And what's your birthday?2.3110
2DCB_se1_ag3_f_032.7946Four three, seventy-two.4.7240
3DCB_int_016.7023And where were you born?7.8503
4DCB_se1_ag3_f_038.2177Washington DC.9.1829
5DCB_int_0110.1890What neighborhood do you call like, your neighborhood?12.3619
6DCB_se1_ag3_f_0313.7421I wanna say14.6280
8 15.0699anywhere Uptown.15.9860 
9DCB_int_0116.1563Uptown? [So we'll just put] Uptown.17.7650
11 17.7744Yup.18.0355
12DCB_int_0119.1033Um, and you've lived here all your life?20.8099
14 22.4687Have you lived anywhere else?23.6391 
15DCB_se1_ag3_f_0324.0401[Um, yeah.]24.5591
16DCB_int_0124.0401[Even temporarily.]24.9207
17DCB_se1_ag3_f_0324.8193[I've] lived in26.0172
18 27.1791Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.29.0190
19DCB_int_0129.6348How long?30.1241
22 31.4623Let's see,31.9426 
24 32.7202I wanna say maybe like three years.35.5132 
25DCB_int_0138.0638And where'd you go to school?38.9171
26DCB_se1_ag3_f_0339.6108Uh, I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/41.8583
28 45.1891High School in DC.46.6739 
29DCB_int_0149.2105And what do you do now?50.0032
32 51.5735I am52.4121 
34 52.6692<ts>52.7252 
36 53.0050an entrepreneur.53.9648 
38DCB_se1_ag3_f_0355.0054I do fitness for56.8838
40 58.0166children,58.7439 
42 60.6183and adults too, but mostly for children.62.2737 
43DCB_int_0168.6829And where were your parents born?70.4454
44DCB_se1_ag3_f_0371.9282I think both of them were born in [Washington] DC, mm-hm.74.3996
46 75.5875You deep DC.76.6319
48DCB_int_0177.2445And what about your parents? What do they do?78.7489
49DCB_se1_ag3_f_0379.4716My mom is deceased.80.8379
51 82.0433And my dad, he works for a state senator in Florida.85.9846 
52DCB_int_0193.7697/Okay/ so that's that.94.7039
54 94.9024Mkay.95.4573 
56 95.9552So tell me a little bit about,97.8354 
58 98.2970um,98.7679 
60 99.4895growing up in DC. So you're a100.8441 
62 101.0576Uptown girl?101.8584 
65 103.2012do you remember like your first house as a little girl?105.4160
67 106.5433Or [your first-]107.1644 
69 107.9562<ts>108.0914
71 108.4964Let's see, when I was young,110.7353 
73 111.5408I lived with my grandparents up until113.3479 
75 114.4831maybe five years old.116.7554 
77 116.9622Maybe up to about five years old.118.3149 
79 118.9723And then went to live with my dad in Maryland for a while.121.0706 
81 121.4343<ts>121.5276 
83 122.2410Then,122.7959 
85 123.4522went to live in Harrisburg with my mom for three years. And then we came back to DC.126.8328 
87 127.6209So,128.0079 
89 128.4264mostly Uptown. Everywhere Uptown,130.0398 
91DCB_se1_ag3_f_03130.6040[DC.] Um,131.5599
92 132.4458growing up here was fun,133.7654
94 135.0512you know.135.6108 
96 136.3055<ts>136.3755 
98 136.5573It was safer,137.3920 
100 138.7955because139.7001 
102 140.3471we didn't have all this stuff going [on, you] know.142.9304 
104DCB_se1_ag3_f_03143.3360And then,143.8396
106 144.8468I like the,145.6628 
108 146.1105what is it? Take a village to raise a child, [so everybody] knew everybody's kid so.149.9811 
110DCB_se1_ag3_f_03150.3522You know, if you got in trouble by the time you got home,152.1478
112 152.4342somebody know.153.1391 
114DCB_se1_ag3_f_03154.1190You know, your parent,154.7031
116 154.9250yeah, uh-huh, found out you did /such and such/, but.157.3784 
118 157.6955It was pretty much safe. Um, we could stay outside until the street lights came on and,161.9451 
120 162.6836you know, didn't have to worry about anything.164.2690 
122 164.7586But my-165.1689 
124 166.1563my years, growing up in DC was fun.168.4690 
125DCB_int_01169.1359So you grew up at a time-171.1724
127 172.7672so, right after the riots?175.1029 
128DCB_se1_ag3_f_03175.1964Probably yeah.176.0359
131 177.0757but when you were small did that seem to affect- did you-179.2894 
133 179.5226did you [feel that?]180.4878 
134DCB_se1_ag3_f_03179.8676[I don't-]180.3214
135 180.5997No.181.0333
137 181.7502I don't remember nothing about the riots. [<laugh>]184.0933 
140DCB_int_01185.3069So when you say it was safe, you felt like-187.2886
142 187.7595like did you play game, did you stay [outside with your fr- Tell me about your friends, or] what y'all did in the neighborhood.192.3793 
143DCB_se1_ag3_f_03189.3126[Yeah, we stay outside.]191.0242
144 192.6125We- Okay this was like194.2507
146 194.9812maybe- especially like in the summer time so,196.7438 
148 198.4679our day would consist of, you get up in the morning, you eat your breakfast about nine,201.8731 
150 202.0583ten o'clock you outside,203.3112 
152 203.7731until about twelve, with your grandparents til you come back in and eat lunch.206.8413 
154 207.2492Then you go right back outside208.7718 
156 209.3581and you stay out there til about- I guess it g- got dark about eight,212.6128 
158 213.2050whenever the street lights came on. I mean, and we could be all over the neighborhood,216.5145 
160 216.9156you know,217.3259 
162 217.5311um,218.0766 
164 218.4870playing,218.9859 
166 219.5657jump rope, double-dutch whatever going to the rec.221.8384 
168 222.3840Um,222.8876 
170 223.7689it was just fun.224.6082 
172 225.3729You know once in a while,226.4780 
174 226.8546you know, you get that treat to McDonald's.228.6189 
176DCB_se1_ag3_f_03229.8854Cause, you know, we always had home cooked meals.231.7063
178DCB_se1_ag3_f_03232.2935So you going to McDonald's, oh we going to McDonald's? Okay.235.1394
180 235.6756Uh,236.4123 
182 237.5454yeah it was just- it was just fun.239.0943 
183DCB_int_01239.6239Who were your friends?240.7617
185DCB_int_01241.4005[Do you remember?]242.0486
186DCB_se1_ag3_f_03242.7954Yeah. <laugh>243.5361
188 244.0257I had- um,245.0282 
190 245.3908shoot, most of 'em was my cousins.246.8130 
192DCB_se1_ag3_f_03247.6435Cause we kind of all- almost all lived in the same building.250.0164
194 251.0096<ts> We lived on, uh, /RD-ADDRESS-3/-252.5565 
196 252.9810was it-253.2559 
198 253.3679no, /RD-ADDRESS-6/.254.6211 
200 255.0957<ts>255.1958 
202 255.5221So,256.0600 
204 256.7345we had the neighborhood kids around there, then we had friends in the building.259.8670 
206 260.3098Uh,261.2517 
208 263.3348it was just- it was just fun.265.2606 
210 266.1326Um,266.7769 
212 269.0504yeah, some of my friends was mostly friends from school, from elementary school. When, you know, we used to be outside.274.2728 
214 274.8062<ts>274.9539 
216 275.1215Um,275.8523 
218 276.9109The boys used to like to tease us278.7341 
220 279.0791and everything. We'd play, you know,280.6505 
222 280.9764jump rope, or we doing cheers.282.7524 
224 283.0282And it so funny cause the boys knew all the cheers. So they [would do] the cheers with us, yeah.286.4594 
226 286.6459<laugh>287.3681
227DCB_se1_ag3_f_03287.4869So funny.288.1415
229 288.4726Um,288.9440 
231 289.6896it was just fun, you know. It wasn't-291.4662 
233 292.8959it- /?/293.5301 
235 294.1118it was just fun times.295.3241 
236DCB_int_01295.3195Did you see any like-296.8302
237 296.9422<clears throat>297.5437
239 299.0766especially when you were a little bit older, this [might have] been like, late seventies early eighties,303.3851 
241DCB_int_01303.7723did you see any of,304.8353
243 305.4368um,305.7760 
245 306.0424when the drugs started to come in, or the neighborhood started to change a little bit?309.5297 
246DCB_se1_ag3_f_03309.6556Well when I was- um, I wanna say like maybe the early eighties,314.5831
248 314.9655by that time,315.7442 
250 316.0195my mom was living in Southeast so,317.7585 
252 318.4920I lived with her319.9303 
254 320.7743out there for,321.8794 
256 322.7653most of my whole323.6337 
258 324.4009middle school325.0630 
260 325.7298term. So that- I guess that's like three years.327.9074 
262 328.5555And that's when you started seeing330.0010 
264 330.7646a lot of changes, as far as like, you know, the drugs and stuff like that. Um,334.7793 
266 336.2686<ts>336.3436 
268 336.8485I wanna say as far as like the killings, when I moved back with my grandparents,340.3503 
270 340.7516in the late eighties, that's when all the- I wanna say like around eighty344.2451 
272 344.6016seven, eighty-eight that's when346.0966 
274 346.4949a lot of murders started taking place. Um, cause I guess the drug game started getting real heavy and [stuff.]351.4970 
275DCB_int_01351.1520[Mm], mm-hm.351.9633
278 352.9006And353.4042 
280 353.9236started losing354.6900 
282 355.0699friends around that time, male friends anyway357.6369 
284 358.1359around ti- around that time.359.7073 
286 360.3915So,360.8812 
288 361.9816<exhale> I'm'a say it was dangerous, but it's not364.2539 
290 364.8213as da- it wasn't as dangerous as it is now. It's like367.7414 
292 369.1193the kids,369.8607 
294 370.1079they're just like, out of control.371.5627 
296 372.7739When we were coming up, we were taught to respect our elders, regardless.376.8493 
298 377.3135Even in high school,378.3891 
300 378.8765you never-379.5526 
302 379.8184Like, if I go to these high schools now, cause I do my fitness,382.6617 
304 383.2782<ts>383.3424 
306 383.6082and384.1901 
308 384.8485it's the way that the kids just talk to the- the faculty.387.6929 
310 388.2851Like,388.6970 
312 388.9892you know, they curse at 'em within their conversations, like they're cursing using curse words, but that's392.8955 
314 393.1846like a casual conversation. And I'm just looking at the teachers like, you really let them talk to y'all like397.1842 
316 397.6412that? And,398.2754 
318 398.8955I mean, it's just like400.0006 
320 400.7187crazy.401.3073 
322 402.0232And I just look back on my time when I was in high school,404.4501 
324 405.3945we ain't never do that.406.3457 
326 406.8260We were focused.407.8305 
328 408.0791I mean, we would come to school, we'd wanna dress up.410.2427 
330 411.0214You know, we had,412.0239 
332 412.4996our mind on what we gonna do,414.0989 
334 414.1966you know, when we get ready get out of high school.416.5245 
336 416.8862Um,417.5250 
338 417.9866I mean, we had fun,419.3482 
340 419.8367and it-420.2330 
342 420.4662we didn't have to use curse words, we didn't have- you know, disrespect our-423.1939 
344 423.4001our- our teachers, our adults like that.425.5067 
346 425.8600Even getting on the bus,426.9977 
348 427.6505you know, back then,428.5738 
350 428.9655you know, we'd be loud and stuff, but we would never be431.0405 
352 431.4131disrespectful.432.2015 
354 433.0070I'm scared to even catch434.0795 
356 434.5458the- the metro,435.6276 
358 436.0846the bus,436.7677 
360 436.9603or whatever.437.6140 
362 438.4475And I have a ten year old and I'm like, I'll be taking you to school all the way up into high school442.4856 
364 443.6595because it's- it's dangerous.445.4970 
365DCB_int_01445.4713It is. Especially recently.447.4411
366 447.7370There's been s- I- and I don't watch the news for this reason, there's been so many things,451.5291
368 451.6897and I don't take public transportation if I can help it.454.2384 
370DCB_int_01454.6861[So many] things.456.0896
371DCB_se1_ag3_f_03456.2736I'm just like, oh my god you got females getting raped on the train.459.8374
373 460.1638I'm like, where they do that?461.1016 
375 461.2686How does this stuff462.1869 
377 462.4534occurring? Like,463.6459 
379 464.5784it's just crazy. And a lot of /'em/ are these young467.5441 
381 468.8905black males doing this.470.6035 
383 470.7030Um,471.2266 
385 471.8095even some of the young girls are like, out of control.474.0943 
387DCB_se1_ag3_f_03475.1050You know, I'm just like-476.3177
389 477.4784You know, my friends and I often talk about trying to, you know,479.8984 
391 480.8438do like, you know, some kind of mentoring482.6484 
393 482.9515program or s- you know, something like that to try to reach these kids cause it is just-486.7273 
395 487.6738it's awful.488.1634 
397 489.0820It's [awful and scary] and I'm scared for my child.491.2969 
399 492.2377So let's go back. Like, you talked about-494.3530
401 494.5738<clears throat> Because I- as you're-496.0100 
403 496.1929now that you're in the schools,497.5287 
405DCB_int_01497.8466[let's talk] a little bit about499.1796
406 500.4992going-501.0774
408 501.6696comparing what you did,503.0405 
410 503.2923now and then.504.3636 
412 504.6573So you said you moved to Southeast for a while. So tell me a little bit- before we talk about school, tell me a little bit about the difference between510.1412 
414 510.6340living in Uptown and then living in [Southeast.]513.2965 
415DCB_se1_ag3_f_03512.8379[It was a] big [difference.]514.8126
417DCB_se1_ag3_f_03516.3822I so love Uptown.518.0842
419 518.5939I don't know, Uptowns is like-520.1405 
421 520.9985I mean, I wanna say both522.1625 
423 522.3962sides had their, you know, similar issues, but Uptowns is more525.7305 
425 526.4436calmer.527.0778 
427 527.6362I don't wanna say uppity cause they would say Uptowns like uppity, or whatever.530.5784 
429 530.9150But, um,531.7434 
431 533.0719Southeast is just a little rough. And in the area I lived in, I lived-536.5971 
433 537.2359I- I lived on, uh,538.7793 
435 539.1710where was that? /RD-ADDRESS-5/.540.6247 
437 540.9479<ts>541.0475 
439 541.1374So I was in between-542.5007 
441 543.4224We were543.9232 
443 544.0837not544.5146 
445 544.9705too far from where like, all the546.6760 
447 547.2080drug stuff happens. I wanna say maybe a block away,550.3550 
449 550.6907you go up the hill, you make that left turn,552.7879 
451 553.2169bam, you right in it.554.2987 
455 557.7854yeah I've seen a lot of stuff living /over to/ Southeast (laughing).560.0189 
457 560.5132Just a lot of-561.2219 
459 561.5810Yeah,561.9866 
461 562.5602it was way different,563.5476 
463 564.1024way different. Um,565.4360 
465 567.7582yeah, I- Uptowns is l- a lot more calmer.569.9878 
466DCB_int_01570.7926Did you play outside and stuff like you did- Well, you were [older then.]573.4411
468 573.6882yeah we were older, but574.8026
470 575.4123we did.575.9493 
472 576.1066We'd stay out in our front-577.6412 
474 578.2287like in the front yard,579.1461 
476 579.4127um, in the building where we lived in.581.0591 
478 581.4928Um,582.0337 
480 582.7273and that was it, no further. But like, when I lived Uptown, we can go all over.586.1079 
482DCB_se1_ag3_f_03587.7900And /we/ didn't have to worry about anything. You know, I'll tell, grandma we going such and such place.591.8141
484 592.1545Alright,592.6778 
486 593.5067you know.594.2049 
488 594.9977And it was just a bunch of us, you know.596.5178 
490 597.0914But-597.5250 
492 597.8328And it wasn't that we're /not/598.6954 
494 599.0731real far, but599.9206 
496 600.1351like I said, everybody knew,601.3521 
498DCB_se1_ag3_f_03601.8650[everybody's], you know, child or whatever.603.4364
499 603.8188Um,604.3643
501 606.2283but yeah, Southeast it just w- <laugh>608.5318 
503 609.8980I was just glad those three years was up.611.3446 
505 611.8241<laugh>612.1387 
508 613.6736And then you came back here, cause /RD-SCHOOL-3/'s here, [so you came] back [here.]616.4819 
511 616.0035[Uh-huh I came] back here, move with my grandparents.618.1099 
512 618.4791Um,619.0250
514 619.6222at- by that time they had moved on, uh,621.7594 
516 622.3085/RD-ADDRESS-5/.623.2622 
518 623.9397<ts>624.0039 
520 624.2158And624.8227 
522 625.5997that's when, um, I moved back with them,627.3773 
524 627.8782got enrolled to,628.8961 
526 629.5929uh, /RD-SCHOOL-3/.630.6204 
528 631.6319And I had631.9465 
530 632.2580good time at /RD-SCHOOL-3/.633.1134 
532 633.8847Good years, good [years.]635.0342 
535 634.9571[so] now think about- And do you go into- I'm sorry, I'm'a move [this over] cause mine j- my sweater [is doing all] what it wants to do right now.640.3246 
538 638.6613[<laugh>]639.2232 
539DCB_int_01640.8480Do you feel like-641.9300
541 642.1998So you go into the high schools now.643.7278 
543 644.2760How do you feel like your high school was- your high school experience was647.9622 
545 648.1163then versus kind of what you're seeing [these days?]650.6509 
547 650.8604My high school experience I wanna say was the bomb.653.5640
549 653.9333<ts>654.0200 
551 654.9800/But when/ I go in these schools,656.7557 
553 657.2200and it's like- and I guess, I don't know because of my height or whatever I still look young, cause I'm over forty.662.1873 
555 663.5539And it's like, the kids just look at you like,665.3232 
557 666.4566you know.667.0699 
559 668.4654I'm just like, okay. <laugh>670.3599 
561 672.1741It's just like no respect at all from s- from most of 'em.675.2781 
563DCB_se1_ag3_f_03675.9136I mean, all you hear walking down the hall is,678.0745
565 678.3828you know, F this, you know,679.9112 
567 680.2676you [know, just] a lot of [cursing.] And I'm just like-682.3911 
570 681.3773[Cursing.]681.7851 
571DCB_se1_ag3_f_03682.7805and I'm like, even the principal letting them get away with this? I'm like, I don't understand. It- it has to be686.9792
573 687.8718<sigh>688.4562 
575 689.4934like,689.8401 
577 690.2255I don't know, more discipline or something, [or]692.6668 
579DCB_se1_ag3_f_03693.0723something because694.2411
581 694.9507/it-/695.1305 
583 695.8337these schools are off the [chain.]697.2851 
585 698.0557[Yes.]698.6176
586DCB_se1_ag3_f_03698.3447[And], you know,699.1397
587 699.3163I mean, the DC public schools, the charter schools, I've been702.4213
589 702.8741you know, to a lot of 'em, and I'm like,704.1007 
591 704.9548y'all just talk like- I mean, y'all just706.4915 
593 706.7452/actually/ let them walking down the hall just talk like this.708.9640 
594DCB_int_01710.0300And not say anything.710.9965
595DCB_se1_ag3_f_03710.9856Not say anything. They talk like that with each other, they talk like that with the713.7823
596 714.2158staff. And I'm like,715.4328
598 717.1012when I was in high school,718.3374 
600 719.0123w- uh,719.4185 
602 719.7984our teachers didn't tolerate that stuff.721.5940 
604DCB_se1_ag3_f_03723.0145[I mean.]723.7932
605DCB_int_01723.9810what made your high school experience so great? Like was it things you did or what kind of things you did? [Was it the people?]729.9020
607 730.6681probably some of the friends I had. I was mostly quiet733.0695
609 734.0429<ts>734.1039 
611 734.2869in school,734.9549 
613 735.4769laid back.736.1480 
615 737.1241<ts> Um,737.7117 
617 738.1291but I did try to get myself involved in, you know, certain things, you know, to741.2759 
619 741.7819make it fun for myself, make it interesting. And I had good friends and744.6943 
621 745.0057still good friends with a lot of 'em746.4430 
623 747.0896now.747.5190 
625 747.7530Um,748.3374 
627 749.6635yeah, and /it's like/ even,751.1053 
629 752.6016like when I got into the school, I had some friends I would call my cousins, you know, they would look out for me.756.7874 
631 757.1085You have any problems though, you know, come to me, or whatever.759.2149 
633 759.5668Um,760.1929 
635 761.9204it was-762.6750 
637 764.6645everybody was kind of, you know, friendly to each other. You know, you had your768.1323 
639 768.7456kids that had their beef with each other /whatever/ but770.7461 
641 770.9952it wasn't771.6085 
643 772.2475nothing where I feared773.4595 
645 774.3796coming to school.775.2433 
647DCB_se1_ag3_f_03775.7763Like I would walk to school every day. I would walk from /RD-ADDRESS-5/ all the way down779.1979
649 779.5640to, which was that, /RD-ADDRESS-3/781.4039 
651 782.4185every morning. Um,783.8429 
653 785.1112walk home every evening, you know, afternoon.787.7025 
655 789.0819Um,789.5957 
657 791.9461my- my whole high school experience was-793.7828 
659 794.5438was really awesome.795.4640 
661 797.0446<ts> It was awesome. Um,798.3603 
662DCB_int_01799.3814[How'd you meet-]800.0414
663DCB_se1_ag3_f_03799.4071[teachers were bomb.]800.3864
664DCB_int_01800.4956how'd you meet the friends who were your frie- like, some of the friends that still you close to today?804.6463
665DCB_se1_ag3_f_03805.3043Most of 'em were in my home room.806.6850
669 809.1947and then, you know, we had to switch classes so, you know,811.1053 
671 811.5644lot of us were in the same classes within,813.4448 
673 814.0709you know.814.3214 
675 814.7163That's mostly how I met815.4612 
677 816.1131my f- good friends.817.1534 
679 817.5098I had a f-818.1681 
681 818.5020maybe wa- I wanna say about821.2911 
683 822.2929maybe two- no,823.8309 
685 823.9658maybe about four good friends825.3208 
687 825.9489<ts>826.0163 
689 826.2989while in high school.827.5242 
693 829.5869the funny thing is-830.6562 
695 830.8732Cause I used to teach preschool,832.2250 
697 832.5397I taught preschool for twenty years up until two thousand thirteen.835.3525 
699 835.6351<ts>835.7121 
701 836.0493And a lot of the children that I taught838.1383 
703 838.8640were from839.3168 
705 840.6268classmates. And they're like, oh,842.4988 
707 842.9053we went to school together, da da da da da. You know, then we started becoming close, you know, after that.847.3878 
709 847.9016Um,848.4635 
711 850.3117th- that- that's just-851.2943 
713 851.4227yeah,851.6539 
715 851.8433that was funny cause I'm like, wow I taught almost all my classmates' [kids.] (laughing)856.7902 
717DCB_se1_ag3_f_03857.9814[Oh man.]859.0025
718DCB_int_01858.3764[But you also had a] little boy at the same time, [so that probably] was-861.9232
720 862.2636Yeah, so863.2622
722 863.6924my son,864.5787 
724 864.9993I actually, um,866.2500 
726 867.4223<ts>867.5218 
728 868.1801adopted him when he was two.869.5654 
730 870.2897So I actually got him when he was871.9016 
732 872.0814two months old.873.0126 
734 873.5026His- um,874.3470 
736 874.8608his birth mother's cousin and I worked together.877.1342 
738 877.8823And878.5245 
740 879.2296so the birth m- um,880.4787 
742 880.7259<ts>880.8223 
744 881.3328the881.9525 
746 882.8548cousin,883.5095 
748 884.0300she asked me,884.7416 
750 884.8925you know, would I wanna get him, because she didn't have any more space in her house.888.0938 
752 888.8291Cause he also has a older brother from the birth mother, she had the older brother.891.6792 
754 892.4626And I was like, sure. You know, it's sposta been temporary.894.5979 
756 894.7264So I was like, yeah sure,895.8277 
758 896.2965I'll get him.896.8424 
760 897.6182<ts>897.6856 
762 897.9938And, um, so we worked everything out, and, you know, had to take the foster care classes and all this stuff. And I would go visit him cause at the time he was at St. Anne's Infant Home.905.0727 
764 905.9637<ts> /So/ I would go visit him and-907.4231 
766 908.2740So he was born December two thousand five, I got him that February.912.4288 
768 912.9640<ts>913.0571 
770 913.3011Um,913.8887 
772 914.4956And that was all she wrote.915.3227 
774 915.6792When he was like six months old, I decided to917.9268 
776 918.3539put in a petition919.3006 
778 919.7667to adopt him920.5630 
780 920.9021because, um,921.9938 
782 922.8544<ts>922.9314 
784 923.0374of the mother's and father's, you know,925.2467 
786 925.8887background, mental,926.7255 
788 926.8764you know, background or whatever.927.9392 
790 928.4337And, you know, I just want him to have a stable,930.6365 
792 931.5452you know, home.932.2078 
794DCB_se1_ag3_f_03933.0755And, um,933.6888
796 934.3599so we did that, you know, going back and forth to court for two years, and937.5355 
798DCB_se1_ag3_f_03938.6067finally <sigh> adopted him June nineteenth, two thousand eight.941.9846
800 943.3589<ts>943.4649 
802 943.7860and that was the best day of my life.945.4865 
804 947.0149So,947.3906 
806 948.3732Yeah.948.7225 
807DCB_int_01948.8773And so what-949.5879
809 950.3370being a mom [is] crazy.953.2911 
811DCB_int_01953.5576You get to do things,954.6718
813 955.0988all the things you had to do but now you do them as- on the [other side as a parent.] So what has been some of their like, craziest things that you've had to do like961.8697 
814DCB_se1_ag3_f_03957.2328[Oh my god.]958.2700
815DCB_int_01962.1617as- as momma?963.2887
816DCB_se1_ag3_f_03964.3631Ooh, let's see, the craziest things?966.8227
818 967.3172I feel like everything I do is crazy.968.8604 
820 969.9425Taxi cab.970.9539
821DCB_se1_ag3_f_03971.0342Oh man,972.2142
823 973.3011taking him to- he-974.3980 
825 974.6131cause he's involved in a lot of sports.976.6424 
827 977.3232So,977.6796 
829 977.9525he became involved in sports when he was five years old.980.1645 
831DCB_se1_ag3_f_03980.7351So from then on that was just non-stop.982.4402
833 983.2975Football,984.0713 
835 984.2094basketball,984.8921 
837 985.0603baseball, wrestling,986.5791 
839 987.0145what else he did? Uh,988.2507 
841 989.4934something else he did, I don't know. He did a-991.3589 
843 991.5773a lot of sports.992.2451 
845 992.7030Um, now he's a author.994.0677 
847 994.8929He became a author,995.8883 
849 996.4952um,996.9800 
851 998.2002October two thousand fifteen.999.5636 
853 999.9778<ts>1000.0484 
855 1000.4145So his book is doing well.1001.6989 
857 1002.2383And his movie just came out today,1003.9915 
859 1004.3190He did a short movie for his book,1005.5922 
861 1005.7241just came out today on YouTube.1007.0695 
865 1007.8626[/RD-WORK-7/]1008.9800 
866DCB_int_011009.9851[I'll have to go watch it.]1011.1269
867DCB_se1_ag3_f_031010.0332[His second book]1010.9933
869 1011.1269is coming out in July.1012.2218 
870 1014.1966<laugh>1014.5562
872DCB_se1_ag3_f_031015.6800[Yeah], so.1016.4374
873 1017.1397It was like,1017.6824
875 1018.3856I had to kind of put myself on the back burner1020.8452 
877 1021.5002<ts>1021.5612 
879 1021.7282with my, you know, business, trying to build my business, and I just been promoting him, promoting him.1025.4131 
881 1026.0392Um,1026.4855 
883 1027.1053but in the process of that, he was like, mom you should, you know,1029.5186 
885 1030.1480do a book. Cause I had a book that I did when I was1032.4791 
887 1032.8002working- uh, finishing up my bachelor's degree.1034.6337 
889DCB_se1_ag3_f_031036.0099And I was like, well, okay, I said, let me send it to the publisher see how she like it, whatever.1039.8823
891 1040.7383So my book came out1041.9071 
893 1043.7888in April.1044.2594 
895 1045.3718Mm-hm, it's a little children's book.1046.9227 
898 1048.2218so,1048.6392
900 1049.3135yeah.1049.7631 
901DCB_int_011049.7502So what's his book about?1050.8036
902DCB_se1_ag3_f_031051.0089His book is about1052.1689
904 1052.8218<ts>1052.9053 
906 1053.8815a superhero, superheroes. Uh, it's called /RD-WORK-7/.1057.3236 
908 1057.8181So if you look at the book, you think, okay it's just a fireman. But it's not what you think.1061.5479 
910 1062.2094So, him and his best friend in the book,1065.0383 
912 1065.4082<ts>1065.4886 
914 1065.9232um,1066.3856 
916 1066.6746discover they had super powers1068.0879 
918 1069.3140when they were like nine or ten or something like that. So they decide to use their superpowers1073.0278 
920 1073.2461for good.1073.8626 
922 1074.5112So they have, uh,1075.4906 
924 1075.7153two arch enemies1076.7846 
926 1077.1911<ts>1077.2810 
928 1077.5636which are,1078.3856 
930 1078.6360what is it, the- uh, the Destroyer,1080.5819 
932 1080.9126and Bang.1081.5837 
934 1081.9208So, in the book,1082.7525 
936 1083.2264that's what they're doing, defeating their- um,1085.1315 
938 1086.1644<ts>1086.2383 
940 1086.6814their arch enemies. <laugh>1088.0750 
942DCB_se1_ag3_f_031089.5925It's really cute, and he wrote it1090.9346
943 1091.2461actually when he was eight years old.1092.6782
945 1093.2786And1094.0107 
947 1094.8103I remember the day he wrote it,1095.9874 
949 1096.5172he was like, here Ma, I wrote a book. I said, okay,1098.4310 
951 1099.3846put it to the side.1100.1810 
953 1101.7305<ts>1101.8301 
955 1102.0773That was the worst thing I ever did, but.1103.5223 
957 1104.1998My girlfriend, she wrote a book,1105.6030 
959 1106.0364and she was like, my book is out, you know,1107.8750 
961 1108.3181da da da. I was like, okay. I said, well, you know what, I said, /RD-NAME-2/ wrote a book.1111.8115 
963 1112.2291I said, but you know what, I never read it. She said, what? Whatchu mean you ain't read it? I said, well let me get it right now, so.1117.3814 
965DCB_se1_ag3_f_031118.4282[I] picked it up and I started reading, I said,1120.0259
966 1120.4723well, dang.1121.0824
968 1121.5704I said,1122.0103 
970 1122.3154this book is good. So I1123.4360 
972 1123.8727emailed her the book.1124.8199 
974 1125.6842<ts>1125.7760 
976 1126.1704And she said, girl you need to send this to my publisher.1128.3089 
978 1128.7071She gave me the publisher information,1130.2869 
980 1130.5695I emailed it to the publisher, the publisher got back with me just like that.1133.4709 
982 1133.9268She said, now how old is this boy? Cause at the time he was nine then.1136.8777 
984 1137.6759Uh,1138.4177 
986 1138.7548you sure he's nine years old1140.0392 
988 1140.3956for him to write this book?1141.3975 
990 1141.6640I was like, yeah. She said, you need to get his IQ checked, she was like, cause this is really good.1144.8447 
992 1145.1337She said, I wanna publish this book.1146.3378 
994 1146.7585<ts>1146.8580 
996 1146.9736So I was like, okay. So I had to find a illustrator, whatever. So we got his1150.5614 
998 1150.7002art teacher at his school1151.8522 
1000 1152.2190to [do the illustrations.]1153.4681 
1004 1156.1801and then, you know, the book came out in October, that was all she wrote.1159.1406 
1006 1159.2979And he [just been going-]1160.2805 
1007DCB_int_011159.5291[Did they buy some books] for the club?1160.9184
1010 1161.6310Um, /?/ mm-hm, the club actually bought like-1164.0582 
1012 1165.0956I think they bought like, five books.1166.7750 
1014 1167.1847[Mm-hm, I think] one is, um, sitting out there.1169.1466 
1018 1169.9365Um,1170.3860 
1020 1170.7938so,1171.2209 
1022 1171.5355the funny part was1172.7862 
1024 1174.1993January, before his book came out,1176.2094 
1026 1177.7635um,1178.3222 
1028 1179.2746was it January two thousand fifteen,1180.7837 
1030 1181.2879he met, uh,1182.0617 
1032 1182.6140President Obama here.1183.5901 
1034DCB_se1_ag3_f_031185.6695That was like the highlight1186.8208
1036 1188.0906of his life.1188.8580 
1038 1189.4617And I didn't know1190.5438 
1040 1190.9374that he was gonna meet him. You know, they didn't tell the kids tell the parents, it was, you know, a surprise.1194.3250 
1042 1194.7135So when I came to pick 'em up,1195.7402 
1044 1196.0107<ts>1196.0718 
1046 1196.1520one of the police officers was like, are you /RD-NAME-2/'s mom?1198.4241 
1048 1198.7709And I was like, yeah.1199.6828 
1050 1200.1099He was like,1200.4419 
1052 1200.6654oh my god, your son got to meet the President. I was like,1203.1763 
1054 1203.5571the President who?1204.2475 
1056 1205.2911He's like, the President of the United States. I said, are you serious?1207.4809 
1058 1207.9401He was like,1208.4668 
1060 1209.1526I sat over there1210.1062 
1062 1210.6360and I listened to their whole conversation. He said, your son1212.9640 
1064 1213.7924is very gifted1214.6915 
1066 1215.2168and your son is very intelligent. He said, he even had1217.8562 
1068 1218.2094President Obama in awe like,1219.7314 
1070 1221.1365wow, wait a minute, how old is this kid?1222.8480 
1072 1223.4934I was like, really? He said, their conversations is just like-1226.0814 
1074 1226.9567He was like, yeah you got a special one [right there. I] was like, oh okay.1230.4502 
1076DCB_se1_ag3_f_031231.9048So that been like, the highlight1233.3337
1078 1233.9938of his life. Um,1235.3392 
1080DCB_se1_ag3_f_031236.5369so even on the- um,1237.8764
1082 1238.1411<ts>1238.2053 
1084 1238.3254when we did the books, on the back of the book it has a picture of him1241.0470 
1085DCB_int_011241.4516[Sitting next to- Mm-hm.]1242.7039
1086DCB_se1_ag3_f_031241.5576[with Pres- mm-hm,]1242.7114
1087DCB_int_011242.8066I [use that picture.]1243.9680
1090 1243.0635[with President Obama], mm-hm, so.1245.1783 
1091 1245.8815Yeah, and then, um,1247.2365
1093 1247.5190we sent- uh,1248.6140 
1095 1248.8805he sent some gifts to President Obama. I think we had a, uh-1251.4139 
1097 1251.8782It-1252.0099 
1099 1252.3535the kids went back to the White House for an event1254.2832 
1101 1254.9768and1255.5323 
1103 1255.7314he took one of his books,1256.8127 
1105 1257.3484um, and somebody, uh,1258.8512 
1107 1259.2108I think a representative said they'll make sure he get it or whatever.1261.7539 
1109 1261.9337<ts>1262.0204 
1111 1262.3177And he- he end up getting a personal letter from President Obama,1265.1401 
1113 1265.8177thanking him for the gifts and remember his time with him at the Boys and Girls Club and everything.1269.8044 
1115 1270.5204And he was like, Ma,1271.6378 
1117 1271.8851look,1272.4566 
1119 1272.6718he didn't sign1273.6415 
1121 1274.3158sincerely.1275.0575 
1123 1275.3195He said,1275.9039 
1125 1276.0966your friend,1276.9154 
1127 1278.2351President Barack Obama. I said, okay.1280.5277 
1129DCB_se1_ag3_f_031280.7929[He] said, so1281.5315
1130 1281.7113you know what that mean.1282.5429
1132 1283.0727That's like my best friend, w- he said, your friend.1284.9736 
1134 1285.3043I said, [okay, he said], so you know when he get out of office I'm'a have to go find out where he live at. I said, I know. (laughing)1289.9557 
1138DCB_se1_ag3_f_031293.9489Right, [right.]1294.8993
1139DCB_int_011294.4048[your friend's] here, I'm here.1295.5640
1142 1296.4502So- and it was so funny cause right after he got that letter-1298.9965 
1144 1300.0998So h- he got the letter like, on the weekend, that Saturday. Then Monday,1303.1470 
1146 1303.3108I'm sitting in here, I get a phone call,1304.9516 
1148 1306.1030<ts>1306.1769 
1150 1306.4498from the White House.1307.3378 
1152 1308.1580So,1308.5369 
1154 1308.9287I'm like, okay. They were like, yes, um,1311.2277 
1156 1311.4319<ts>1311.5058 
1158 1311.7305we wanna invite you and /RD-NAME-2/ to the White House, uh,1315.2465 
1160 1315.9208you know, uh, for a special event or whatever.1318.3599 
1162 1318.6553Um,1319.3649 
1164 1320.3218<ts>1320.3732 
1166 1320.5209you know,1320.9022 
1168 1321.0539President Obama appreciate the gifts and stuff that, you know, you gave and everything. /I/ was like- I was like, oh, okay.1326.0874 
1170 1326.6300So,1327.1020 
1172 1327.6897I think during- I think it was Christmas, right before Christmas,1330.3246 
1174 1330.9250a week before Christmas. So we got to get, um,1333.5837 
1176 1334.3055<ts>1334.3859 
1178 1334.4879the special tour of the White House with the, you know, Christmas decorations and everything.1338.6525 
1180 1339.3300So, it was like, unfortunately President Obama wasn't there.1342.0613 
1182 1342.3310But1342.6938 
1184 1343.0791it was still nice.1343.9565 
1185DCB_int_011344.4021[Wow. Okay] /RD-NAME-2/.1346.3369
1187 1346.4410Yeah.1346.8784
1188DCB_int_011347.1108Uh-oh, in twenty, thirty years we might see /RD-NAME-2/ in the White [House, President] /RD-NAME-2/.1351.0089
1190 1351.0346So he's very into politics and stuff like that. More than I am, like,1354.6842
1192 1355.4034but yeah.1355.8390 
1193DCB_int_011356.2351I'm'a have to talk to /RD-NAME-2/, I need to interview /RD-NAME-2/ [now.]1358.5566
1194DCB_se1_ag3_f_031358.2644[No, for] real, [cause] that-1359.3947
1196 1360.1961I remember1361.0599
1198 1361.4452when I first started coming here, it was like three- when I first started here. Because [remember everybody] left,1365.7530 
1200 1365.9007[Exactly.1366.6039
1201DCB_int_011366.0227[So it was like it was] just three of us, so I was here [every day.]1368.3667
1203DCB_int_011368.9929And I would just rem- He would always come to Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s desk,1371.4094
1205DCB_int_011371.5828[and make sure]. And she would ask him, do you have any homework, [and he'll say yes or no], and he'll do his little stuff.1375.7250
1207DCB_int_011375.9786Then he'll go play, he'll come back, or he'll get a book.1378.4466
1209 1378.7580I mean, he was always- But you could tell he was very intelligent. Even like- [Cause it- he was about] six at that point, [six, seven.]1384.8030 
1210DCB_se1_ag3_f_031382.5373[Oh my god.]1383.2566
1212 1384.1769[Yeah.]1384.6009 
1213DCB_int_011385.4452And so, um,1386.6873
1215 1386.8998that's great. I'm s- [congra- I'm-] I'm looking forward to reading it.1389.9103 
1216DCB_se1_ag3_f_031387.8052[Oh yeah.]1388.3383
1217 1389.9360Yeah.1390.4145
1218DCB_int_011390.4498Um, [and I'll have] to talk to him, too.1392.6365
1220 1392.7296Yeah [he's]1393.5227
1222DCB_se1_ag3_f_031393.9208very intelligent, he's been on the honor roll,1396.1576
1224 1397.0663uh, this year, cause he set a goal for hisself this year.1399.7796 
1226 1400.0878<ts>1400.1488 
1228 1400.9824Before school started, he said Ma,1402.4851 
1230 1402.5975my goal1403.3424 
1232 1403.8112is to make honor roll1404.9543 
1234 1405.9016this year1406.4860 
1236 1407.5539for almost the whole school year. I said, okay,1409.2879 
1238 1410.4599<ts>1410.5176 
1240 1410.6525So he didn't- he almost made it the, um, first semester,1413.3934 
1242 1413.7081first report card session.1414.7773 
1244 1415.5512But the last two,1416.3699 
1245DCB_int_011416.9351He made it.1417.4969
1248 1418.5084Like, his second- his third report card is like, almost1421.1016 
1250 1421.8851all A's.1422.6172 
1252 1423.5034I'm like, oh my god, you better work, /RD-NAME-2/.1425.5250 
1254DCB_se1_ag3_f_031426.4369[I said], see?1427.1305
1255 1427.6475Cause you know how boys are sometimes, you know, they get in their,1429.8791
1257 1430.2599I don't wanna do that /?/.1431.0530 
1259 1431.2425I said, you see why Mommy push you?1432.6842 
1261 1432.8865He was like, yeah. I said, but this is a goal that you set for [yourself.]1435.7667 
1262DCB_int_011435.5130[Self], right.1436.2516
1263DCB_se1_ag3_f_031436.7589I said, and you-1437.4897
1265 1437.6567you know, you completed that goal.1439.0470 
1267 1440.6268So he was so proud of [himself.]1442.0140 
1269 1442.7846Ex- So now he's going into fourth grade?1445.0438
1271 1445.1883[Fifth] grade.1445.6283 
1274 1445.5993F- yeah, he'll be in fifth grade next year.1447.4520 
1275 1447.8791It'll be his last year of elementary.1449.2598
1277 1449.6727<cries>1450.2250 
1278DCB_int_011450.5076Ooh, you gonna have a middle [schooler. Are you] ready for that?1452.8862
1281 1452.8612Girl I'm not.1453.7571 
1282DCB_int_011453.9818Is he your only [son? Only child? Only child.]1456.4032
1283DCB_se1_ag3_f_031454.7030[He's my only son, my only child,]1456.6585
1284 1456.8094yeah.1457.2044
1286 1458.0360I never had /any-/ And, you know, he's going through the puberty [thing now.]1461.8975 
1288DCB_se1_ag3_f_031462.3342So, you know, we-1463.1819
1290 1463.8144I'm like, oh I can't, I don't know. [<laugh>]1467.3016 
1293 1467.0498[I love] you but I wanna hit you right [now cause you're getting on my nerves.]1469.8484 
1296 1469.6571[Yes.]1470.4117 
1298DCB_se1_ag3_f_031470.9447Just this morning. I'm just like,1472.7159
1302 1475.0117[But he's-] he's a very sweet child.1476.5915 
1303 1477.0539He's very sweet, he's very caring.1478.9072
1305 1479.8943That's one thing I love about him.1481.0470 
1307 1482.0713<ts>1482.1677 
1309 1482.3089And1482.6172 
1311 1482.8098just like me, cause I always teach him to give back, so he always love,1485.4319 
1313 1486.0195you know, giving back. So even with his book, um, sales,1488.8452 
1315 1489.2337he gives- um,1490.1745 
1317 1490.3896he's gonna give, uh, some of his proceeds to1492.7356 
1319 1493.1177St. Anne's Infant Home.1494.1420 
1322 1495.2497I love that.1496.0507 
1324 1496.3126I love that.1497.3252 
1326DCB_int_011497.7081[That is] wonderful.1498.7998
1328 1499.0438We had a- um,1499.9557
1330 1500.3699he had to do something for his school, we had, uh, lemonade day.1503.0029 
1332DCB_se1_ag3_f_031503.7659So, they had to pick, um,1505.4645
1334 1506.3956<ts>1506.4502 
1336 1506.6108somewhere they wanna donate their money to, you know, some of or all of it.1509.6952 
1338 1510.0966So we made like,1510.6553 
1340 1512.0264about forty-five dollars, so he donated1513.7603 
1342 1514.4346all the forty-five dollars to1515.7145 
1344 1516.1512The Boys and Girls Club.1517.0470 
1345DCB_int_011517.9718But, see, you're teaching him young, [the importance] of- Because somebody gave so that he could have different [experiences.]1523.7948
1348 1523.2879[And that's what I] told him.1524.3154 
1349DCB_int_011524.5144And [now he's making-]1525.7638
1350DCB_se1_ag3_f_031524.7264[I said, did you every no-] yeah, I said, you ever notice every time you give,1528.1191
1351 1528.7998I said, you- you get1529.9493
1353 1530.3956something even more spectacular1532.2130 
1355 1532.8681back?1533.4054 
1357 1534.7291I said, but you're not doing it for that reason, you just, you know, [giving because] you want to, but,1538.3761 
1359DCB_se1_ag3_f_031538.6850did you ever no- He was like, you know what, Ma? He was like, you right.1540.9314
1361 1542.2736He said, I never really did notice that, he said, but,1544.1841 
1363 1544.6176he said, you know, I like giving.1545.8237 
1365 1547.0567I was like, that's so good. He's [so funny.]1548.9094 
1367 1549.7410Do you have any family traditions? So1551.5860
1369 1551.7337do you have a big family that's still in the area?1553.9911 
1372 1554.7135a lot of my family here.1555.5922 
1373DCB_int_011555.7378Oh okay, do [y'all have like] family traditions, or?1558.3053
1375 1558.4177<exhale> Now, before1560.0777
1377 1561.4938all the- the fun relatives passed like my aunts and my- my mom, my un-1565.5558 
1379 1565.9686We used to have like,1566.9415 
1381 1567.4681big cookout1568.2130 
1383 1568.5617like every year, you know, get1570.1287 
1385 1570.3470the family together during Christmas and1571.9461 
1387 1572.7135stuff like that. So,1573.8052 
1389 1574.0300it's really been hard,1575.2116 
1391 1575.9489<ts>1576.0035 
1393 1576.4980so.1577.1145 
1395 1577.7149Usually everybody try to depend on me and I'm like, I can't do everything cause I'm tired.1580.9811 
1397 1581.1205You know, do everything.1582.0677 
1399 1582.5140But like with my siblings now, um, since my mom passed, it's been about seven years,1586.7396 
1401 1587.7177<ts> I'll try to do,1588.6778 
1403 1589.2140um,1589.7213 
1405 1589.8369like either something for Christmas or1591.4103 
1407 1591.8117for Thanksgiving.1592.7397 
1409DCB_se1_ag3_f_031593.1461[So] either me or one of my other sis- uh, one of my other sisters.1596.5080
1410 1596.9094So, and1597.7218
1412 1597.9176we had, uh, was it Christmas at my house?1600.1480 
1414 1600.8415We had Christmas at my house, I was not expecting them to stay all day.1603.4922 
1416DCB_se1_ag3_f_031605.0787I said we gonna have Christmas breakfast.1606.5879
1418 1607.5608They ain't leave my house until like, one o'clock in the morning. I said, wait a minute didn't I say we just gonna have breakfast? I end up1612.7869 
1420 1613.2879making breakfast, making [dinner.]1615.1566 
1422DCB_se1_ag3_f_031615.6222But we had such a good time.1617.2855
1424 1618.0195<ts>1618.1030 
1426 1618.3406I loved it, we had a good time. /RD-NAME-2/ was just like,1620.2993 
1428 1620.7103we need to do this a lot, Ma.1622.1231 
1430 1622.3755He said, I love having my aunts and uncles and cousins over. I was like, yeah it was fun.1625.9878 
1431DCB_int_011626.0392How many of them are y- how many brothers and sisters do you have?1628.8199
1432DCB_se1_ag3_f_031628.8764It's- uh,1629.7577
1434 1630.1512I'm the eldest of seven.1631.4843 
1435DCB_int_011632.2222Oh okay. And how many kids? So I know he had a lot of kids to play with.1635.7607
1438 1637.4580it's just he- it's him,1638.9511 
1440 1640.0910uh,1640.6401 
1442 1640.7910my nephew, well, now I have two nephews.1642.6577 
1444 1643.0759Um,1643.6057 
1446 1644.9415so my two nephews and my niece. My niece wasn't-1647.3131 
1448 1647.5347/??/ she wasn't able to make it cause she was still with her dad.1650.1484 
1450 1650.6846But1650.9993 
1452DCB_se1_ag3_f_031652.1103yeah, it was-1653.3156
1454 1653.5957it was /fine./1654.1191 
1455DCB_int_011654.1319It was fun?1654.6328
1456DCB_se1_ag3_f_031654.9025It was fun.1655.4356
1459 1657.9337tell me a little bit about1659.3324 
1461 1659.5732your business. Cause I've-1660.9154 
1463 1661.0920well, [just] tell- I'll let you tell me [about it.]1663.0988 
1466 1662.7906[Okay.]1663.1020 
1467 1663.4970Well, my business is called /RD-WORK-9/1666.7773
1469 1667.2236and1667.9300 
1471 1668.7970I started it in1670.7075 
1473 1671.0016two thousand thirteen.1672.3576 
1475 1672.4883<ts>1672.5975 
1477 1672.8030Um,1673.3521 
1479 1674.1484two thousand eleven1675.8470 
1481 1676.8617I started on my mission to lose weight.1678.7516 
1483 1679.1690Um,1679.7544 
1485 1679.8562I was having some issues.1681.1117 
1487 1681.5933Uh,1682.0589 
1489 1682.2355so let me back track a little bit.1683.3035 
1491 1683.6021I couldn't-1684.0484 
1493 1685.8433before I got /RD-NAME-2/1686.9254 
1495 1687.2594I found out I couldn't have children.1688.5373 
1497 1689.3292<ts1689.3870 
1499 1689.6631So I had to, uh, end up getting a hysterectomy cause I had, uh, reoccurrences with fibroids and stuff like that.1694.7236 
1503 1696.1769So, um,1697.3521 
1505 1698.5787two thousand eleven-1700.4571 
1507 1701.7466no, two thousand seven I had my hysterectomy.1704.6332 
1509 1704.8837<ts>1704.9415 
1511 1705.5323So,1705.9256 
1513 1706.2387after that I still had like all this weight on me or whatever,1708.9411 
1515 1709.5190and just having problems like,1710.7328 
1517 1710.9254you know, losing weight.1711.7041 
1519 1712.3800Um,1712.8777 
1521 1713.4512went to a doctor, found out I had a fatty liver.1715.4163 
1523 1716.1099Put me on a diet, uh,1717.6575 
1525 1718.2182/told me/, you know, things I c-1719.2585 
1527 1719.4897shouldn't eat or whatever.1720.3342 
1529 1720.8512So I started with that, I started going to a weight loss clinic, um,1724.1071 
1531 1725.2521called Decalo1726.0227 
1533 1726.4723and1727.0984 
1535 1727.4869you know, started on my journey.1728.5723 
1537 1729.1020<ts>1729.1695 
1539 1729.5837Then I was trying to find the right, uh,1731.7530 
1541 1732.7356exercise for me,1733.7856 
1543DCB_se1_ag3_f_031735.2626uh, as far as, you know, working out.1737.0279
1545 1737.2714Cause a lot of things I was doing just wasn't working.1738.9282 
1547 1739.6860So two of my girlfriends,1741.1695 
1549 1742.0878<ts>1742.1456 
1551 1742.2227uh, started up this,1743.6663 
1553 1743.7723uh,1744.2475 
1555 1744.5911exercise called go go fitness.1746.2383 
1557 1747.4071So I started going to the classes on Saturdays, cause at the time it was just on Saturdays and1751.5062 
1559 1752.2865I was just going like every Saturday, I just found myself just going, just going.1755.3016 
1561 1755.6535And then eventually,1756.6007 
1563 1757.5287um, I made up a routine1759.2562 
1565 1759.7860and eventually they made me a part of1761.5900 
1567 1761.9874<ts>1762.0420 
1569 1762.1159their, um,1762.8030 
1571 1763.6250fitness group.1764.2255 
1573DCB_se1_ag3_f_031765.1309So that's how I started out with fitness.1766.5443
1575 1766.9182So then I end up going to get my Zumba, um,1769.2365 
1577 1769.6282license.1770.3314 
1579 1771.3782And1772.0525 
1581 1773.2264I started teaching, uh,1774.3310 
1583 1774.7227go go fitness class down here.1776.3410 
1585 1776.5048I taught, uh,1777.3172 
1587 1777.4007h-1777.5452 
1589 1777.6511here for1778.3929 
1591 1779.1571almost three years.1779.9649 
1593DCB_se1_ag3_f_031781.0246Yeah, about three years.1782.2319
1595 1782.5658Um, it was just adults at the time, then I started doing it for the kids, too.1786.0902 
1597 1786.7677Um,1787.3649 
1599 1788.7617so my business1789.8084 
1601 1790.2259the reason I started my business, because I was on the mission to lose weight,1793.4805 
1603 1793.8530my mom,1794.5883 
1605 1794.7456she had diabetes. Um,1796.5662 
1607 1797.6214she didn't pass exactly of the diabetes, but,1800.3892 
1609 1800.9736you know, that's part [of,]1802.0846 
1610DCB_int_011801.9144[Of] it.1802.2671
1611DCB_se1_ag3_f_031802.4635you know, her illness.1803.3272
1613 1803.6824And1804.2507 
1615 1804.6103before she died, a year before she died, she was like, baby1807.4809 
1617 1807.7121<ts>1807.7988 
1619 1808.2644I want you to get yourself together,1809.6246 
1621 1810.3631she said, cause I don't want you to be like me.1811.9622 
1623 1812.7970She said, you know, I know it's /???/ thing is going on with me that I don't know,1816.0420 
1625 1816.4177but the issue is- she said, but1817.6667 
1627 1818.1644I just want you1819.1020 
1629 1819.4970to be healthy and be around,1821.1153 
1631 1821.5571you know, for1822.3611 
1633 1822.7002your son.1823.2012 
1635 1823.9622I was like, okay. And I never forgot about that.1826.1199 
1637 1826.2406So,1826.6902 
1639 1827.4608I was like, you know what,1828.3085 
1641 1828.6264I said, I'm gon- I'm gonna start my business.1830.7232 
1643 1831.9144It-1832.0685 
1645 1832.1925the funny part is my business became1834.0773 
1647 1834.3342final on my birthday1835.6475 
1649 1836.8869in two thousand [thirteen. I was like, yes], I got everything in the mail.1840.2250 
1651DCB_se1_ag3_f_031840.7741Like, I was like, oh my god I can't believe this. But my business is because my mom.1844.5406
1653 1845.2457<ts>1845.3035 
1655 1845.5282So- and,1846.5301 
1657 1846.8672I wanted to help,1847.5255 
1659 1849.1695um,1849.7314 
1661 1850.0910families learn how to1851.5539 
1663 1851.9103eat healthy together, work out together.1854.0970 
1665 1854.5787Um,1855.1727 
1667 1855.9176and let them know that1856.6003 
1669 1856.7544you know, fitness is not, uh,1858.5911 
1671 1859.4067nothing to be scared of or strenuous.1861.7218 
1673 1861.9337You know,1862.3768 
1675 1863.6471just have fun with it, we just dancing.1865.1851 
1677 1865.4002Dancing,1866.0521 
1679 1866.1966you know,1866.5792 
1681 1868.3158stre- you know,1869.1269 
1683 1869.2457gives you-1869.6599 
1685 1869.9521makes you stress free, and,1871.4645 
1687 1872.4759you know, just have fun with your family. It's things that you could do.1874.7685 
1689 1875.3838So that's my whole1876.5558 
1691 1877.3585vision for- um, and mission for1880.0878 
1693 1880.5534my business is to1881.7177 
1695 1882.5558reach a lot of families, um,1884.4920 
1697 1885.2883show 'em that you can do this together1886.7332 
1699DCB_se1_ag3_f_031887.4319[as a] family.1888.1833
1700 1888.7837But my main focus1889.9686
1702 1890.3892is really on children because it's so many-1892.7204 
1704 1893.6888so many obese kids, and I mean1896.7938 
1706 1897.6800like from1898.4988 
1708 1899.0209three and up.1899.6311 
1710 1900.4915Cause I've had some in my class1902.0039 
1712 1902.3218when I used to teach.1903.1342 
1714 1903.9690So I would start doing the dance with 'em and they g- and they love it.1906.5044 
1716 1907.1690So now I go to daycares,1909.0025 
1718 1909.1598um, you know, I do clubs and the YMCA's or whatever, I go to different places, they'll call me1913.6057 
1720 1914.0360to come, I do summer camps.1915.3429 
1722 1916.1328<ts>1916.2002 
1724 1916.6626And I have two daycares that I do.1918.5622 
1726 1918.7805Oh my god, I love those kids.1920.0777 
1728 1920.5241I love 'em, I have one I do on Wednesday and one on Friday.1922.6626 
1730 1923.0916And when I come in there, they just can't wait for me. I can't even get through the door good.1926.2440 
1732DCB_se1_ag3_f_031927.6319They like, we gonna dance, we gonna dance.1929.3613
1734 1929.9360And1930.4787 
1736 1930.6039they just have fun.1931.6122 
1738 1932.1709But they don't know that they're being healthy, you know, at the same [time.]1934.8649 
1740DCB_se1_ag3_f_031935.6599And I love it.1936.9828
1742 1937.2622Um,1937.8262 
1744 1939.2915I- I love it, I just love to see the smiles on the kids face and,1942.2989 
1746 1943.4002you know, I'm not a drill sergeant,1944.7392 
1748 1944.9543you know what I'm saying.1945.7924 
1750 1946.1263You know,1946.6208 
1752 1946.9439I say follow this routine, but kids gonna do what they wanna [do anyway], so I follow their lead.1951.0923 
1753DCB_int_011949.1466[Do, mm-hm.]1949.7374
1754DCB_se1_ag3_f_031951.9851And that's what a lot of1952.7223
1756 1952.8443adults don't understand sometimes, when you1954.8415 
1758 1955.1755working with children,1956.0200 
1760 1956.4823it's not all about what you1957.6704 
1762 1957.8213trying to do.1958.3961 
1764 1958.7030Sometimes you gotta follow those kids' lead in order to reach them.1961.3745 
1766DCB_se1_ag3_f_031962.3282And then y'all come together with a happy medium.1964.3895
1767 1966.2058So.1966.5943
1768DCB_int_011966.7227Do you use go go music in most of your-1968.4759
1769DCB_se1_ag3_f_031968.4277I do, uh, all types of music,1970.1970
1770 1970.5791everything.1971.1311
1772 1971.7113Go go, R&B, whatever1974.6910 
1774 1975.1309is popular, you know, I try to find out what the kids1977.4268 
1776 1977.8590like.1978.3663 
1778DCB_se1_ag3_f_031979.0149And I'm like, oh okay. So1980.6140
1780 1980.8002I was like, /RD-NAME-2/ you gotta teach me how to do this dance cause I don't know.1983.2341 
1782DCB_se1_ag3_f_031984.2186So I could, you know.1985.1787
1784 1985.7663And most of the time I just had the kids teach me, but, you know,1987.9144 
1786 1988.3929I try to do everything1989.5411 
1788 1989.8750to their liking because they're not gonna do it.1991.3842 
1789DCB_int_011991.6314If it- they don't like it.1992.5465
1791 1993.2947And even with adults,1994.2837
1793 1994.9073<ts>1994.9589 
1795 1995.0338it depend on, um,1996.4113 
1797 1996.5172you know, the type of group1997.4099 
1799 1997.5640I have, so,1998.4149 
1801 1998.8227I have1999.1823 
1803 1999.3493music for everybody.2000.3190 
1805 2000.4654I did a all, uh,2001.7723 
1807 2002.2925gospel, um,2003.5190 
1809 2004.2351<ts>2004.3378 
1811 2004.4888event one time,2005.2786 
1813 2005.4906all my music was just gospel music.2007.2919 
1815 2008.3246And it was fun, that was something different, that was a challenge for me.2010.6566 
1817 2011.0764And it turned out real nice.2012.2066 
1818DCB_int_012013.1044So I wanna go to go go for a minute [because] I remember2016.2644
1820DCB_int_012016.6589I think I came to your class once, but I was- well, I was watching your class [because I was-]2020.7015
1822DCB_int_012020.9571so Miss /RD-NAME-2/ I think could come to your class [cause there was] nobody at the front [desk.]2023.8939
1825 2023.6672[Mm-hm.]2024.1378 
1826DCB_int_012024.5117Um, and I was just like-2025.9746
1828 2026.1961and I didn't really know about go go cause I had just moved here.2029.2308 
1830 2029.6158So tell me a little bit about go go, like what is that-2032.3695 
1832 2033.2268tell me a little bit about the music and like, why2035.4071 
1834 2035.8085people in DC-2036.6176 
1835DCB_se1_ag3_f_032037.0241Oh man, well, you know,2038.7516
1837 2039.4934Chuck Brown he's the godfather of go go.2042.0167 
1839 2042.6741<ts>2042.7287 
1841 2043.2425Um,2043.9970 
1843 2044.5654so it all started with him.2045.8401 
1845 2046.2447But, you know, that's what I grew up on,2047.9962 
1847 2048.2984you know, the go go music. And2050.4915 
1849 2051.1401I don't know, I think it's just like2052.0874 
1851 2052.2383the-2052.4534 
1853 2052.6750the-2052.9443 
1855 2053.7057the sound of it, the beat of it. And it's just like when-2056.0195 
1857 2056.4851when you're together2057.4934 
1859 2057.8626with other people and2059.3043 
1861 2059.5323it's just- You know, depending on what the song, cause most of go go's like, call and response and stuff like that, so it's just like-2064.8163 
1863 2065.5355I don't know and it's just the- the- the music just put you like in a little groove,2069.2044 
1865 2069.6282you know, everybody chill, laid back or whatever.2072.7910 
1867 2073.5893I don't know, j-2074.0709 
1869 2074.3246go go is- /I don't-/ it's just DC's music.2076.2126 
1871 2076.5080It's always been DC's music.2077.9112 
1872DCB_int_012078.1732Do [you have a favorite] band?2079.4191
1874 2079.9103<ts>2079.9714
1876 2080.2989My favorite band,2081.5800 
1878 2081.8819I think I have two.2082.6332 
1880DCB_se1_ag3_f_032083.5195My two favorite bands right now is Subtle Thoughts,2087.1947
1882 2087.7374um,2088.3410 
1884 2088.8933<ts>2088.9961 
1886 2089.8855ooh lord, what is the daggone name of the other group? Um,2092.9433 
1888 2094.8131It was right on tip of my tongue.2096.0011 
1890 2098.2314Let it Flow.2098.9186 
1892 2101.0410I wanna say I had one more.2102.3458 
1894 2104.3117Of course the Chuck Brown Band.2105.7011 
1896 2107.0025So those about my2108.2638 
1898 2108.9342three favorites right now.2110.4498 
1899DCB_int_012111.4099And tell me a little bit about2113.0739
1901 2113.7474are they2114.1649 
1903 2114.4506different, are they similar?2115.9071 
1906 2116.9122They play the same music but their sound is different,2119.3882 
1907DCB_int_012120.0461Give [me- like, whatchu- mm-mm], tell- explain it to me.2122.2507
1908DCB_se1_ag3_f_032120.1636[you know what I'm saying.]2121.0755
1909 2122.4626So it's like,2123.4520
1911 2124.7777every go go,2125.4938 
1913 2125.9369uh, band have-2127.2502 
1915 2128.0934You know, they might do like the same similar songs but its- it's- it's the sound so it comes-2132.2115 
1917 2133.0145Meaning the sound is, they develop their own like, go go sound, and then the singers2137.9690 
1919 2138.1424really make it come to life.2139.3613 
1921 2139.7241So,2140.2058 
1923 2140.8672each singer will sing the song2142.8612 
1925 2143.2786differently.2143.8887 
1927 2144.6240So that's what make2145.3497 
1929 2145.7370the sound different,2146.6328 
1931 2147.8562so.2148.2322 
1932DCB_int_012148.8163Is there something different between like kind of new go go versus old go go? Someone was telling me like, the older stuff is different from kind of what they [do now.]2156.2869
1933DCB_se1_ag3_f_032155.8245[The older] stuff-2157.1538
1934 2158.0163the older stuff was more- uh,2160.2319
1936 2162.3434more faster I think,2163.7048 
1938 2163.9489I think the beat was more faster,2165.5715 
1940DCB_se1_ag3_f_032166.0360but you could still dance to it.2167.3747
1941 2167.6094Like I don't know if you ever heard of, what is it? Uh, Chuck Brown's Bustin Loose?2171.2975
1943DCB_se1_ag3_f_032172.4021Cause I think, uh, that might've been the first go go song he did.2174.8488
1945 2176.1062So, that sound was like a little fast or whatever.2178.5498 
1947 2178.9961But now,2179.6897 
1949 2180.2291the sound as we- you know, the years started going,2183.5158 
1951 2184.0296the sound- the beat started getting, um,2186.6594 
1953 2188.0356<ts>2188.0837 
1955 2188.2828I wanna say more2189.0888 
1957 2189.8947not slower, but it slowed down a little bit.2192.2580 
1959DCB_se1_ag3_f_032192.7255But then,2193.5058
1961 2194.7613when Backyard Band came in, they had like this bounce beat. So you had like this-2198.6284 
1963 2199.6535this,2199.9489 
1965 2200.2186you know, ongoing bounce beat or whatever going on.2202.8420 
1967 2203.1149I didn't care too2203.8406 
1969 2204.1167much <laugh> for a [bounce beat.] (laughing)2206.2443 
1971DCB_se1_ag3_f_032206.8929But that was just, you know, the youngins. Um,2208.8869
1973 2209.6575and then it's-2210.0364 
1975 2210.4397it's kind of going back2211.5860 
1977 2211.8301to,2212.3503 
1979 2213.9878you know, the slower beat,2215.1213 
1981 2215.2819but then you still got the- uh,2216.6658 
1983 2217.1301the fast, the percuss- So it's like kind of mixed now.2219.3456 
1987 2221.8887cause you still had the old school bands out there like Sugar Bear,2224.7067 
1989 2225.3007uh,2225.9718 
1991 2226.9543what's the other one? Um,2228.2237 
1993 2229.1429it's so many of 'em.2230.0484 
1995 2231.9846I can't, it's so- it's so many go go bands I can't even-2234.1360 
1997 2234.7095Yeah.2235.0370 
1998DCB_int_012235.2778I got to see Sugar Bear, uh, he did halftime I think at one of the Wizards games.2239.8887
2000DCB_int_012240.6131And I was like, oh okay.2241.9746
2001DCB_se1_ag3_f_032241.9200I think I saw that, uh, on YouTube.2243.7920
2002 2244.1516But I used to go see him. When I used to come and teach class,2246.7280
2004 2247.8397uh, on Wednesdays, I would leave here2250.0039 
2006 2250.3764on Wednesdays and go right down to the meeting place- I mean, not the meeting place, um,2254.0003 
2008 2254.4562<ts>2254.5590 
2010 2254.8126what was it called? Martin's on, uh, Ninth and U.2257.1117 
2012 2257.5227And would go see him2258.2708 
2014 2259.0383every Wednesday.2259.7594 
2015DCB_int_012260.7002So you sti- Okay, so2261.8305
2017 2262.0264tell me about your f-2263.1406 
2019 2263.3172first go go that you can remember going to, like2265.4022 
2021 2265.6856your first go [go.]2266.9090 
2022DCB_se1_ag3_f_032266.7131[I] was2267.7952
2023 2269.0571in high school,2270.1131
2025 2271.2938and the first go- I think it was at Wilmer's Park.2273.9243 
2027 2274.9897And I wanna say that's /only/ either way out in Maryland or Virginia, I don't know.2278.0902 
2029 2278.7420And it was, uh,2280.1773 
2031 2281.4809Junk Yard Band,2283.1442 
2033 2285.0149I think2285.3681 
2035 2285.5190Rare Essence,2286.9511 
2037 2288.8122and another band, I can't remember what other band it was.2291.4934 
2039 2292.0232<ts>2292.0777 
2041 2292.4245But my um- my aunt took me, my sister, and my cousin,2295.9296 
2043 2297.2590dropped us off, we had a good time.2299.0186 
2045 2300.3286That was like our first go- And it was outside, that was2302.3017 
2047 2302.7324my first go go, so I had to be2304.3475 
2049 2305.0764around sixteen.2306.1777 
2051 2307.0916Yup, I was around sixteen.2308.4048 
2053 2309.8177That was the first [go go I went to.]2311.0731 
2054DCB_int_012310.2351[So what happens] at a go go? Like, kind of if you [can] tell me like-2313.4737
2055DCB_se1_ag3_f_032312.4828[You just-]2312.8006
2056 2314.1383Just dancing.2314.8983
2058 2315.6378Cause once the music start,2316.8548 
2060 2317.6062you just automatically start dancing.2319.0511 
2062 2319.6888And that's basically what- <laugh>2320.7163 
2064DCB_se1_ag3_f_032321.7888That's basically what it is. [I mean, and you would dan- it- it's] v- it's really good [exercise.]2325.8782
2065DCB_int_012322.7424[That's a good exercise session.]2324.1585
2067 2325.3452[<laugh>]2326.1126 
2068DCB_se1_ag3_f_032326.6617I mean, that's all you doing is just-2328.1153
2070 2328.3089you just dancing. Like Soul Train.2330.0974 
2074 2332.0163you just dancing.2332.9090 
2076 2333.8755And2334.4181 
2078 2335.0603it's something about the- the congos, I think the-2337.3195 
2080 2337.6663the beat for the congos,2339.0984 
2082 2339.4869it's like really get your adrenaline flowing, it's like-2342.2195 
2084 2342.6273/I don't know/.2343.1795 
2086 2344.7291/I don't know/.2345.3331 
2088 2345.5704[<laugh>]2345.9011 
2089DCB_int_012345.5704[When you talk] about- you said the call and response, like how did- how does that work? Like what did- what happens like,2350.2892
2090 2350.5397what do they say that makes you respond back?2352.5498
2093 2353.5323okay so for example,2355.0383 
2095 2356.0581Chuck Brown, he'll say- um,2357.6250 
2097 2358.0071every time he come on,2359.0603 
2099 2359.4841wind me up, Chuck,2360.9901 
2101 2362.1319wind me up, Chuck.2363.4998 
2103 2363.9172Um, and then he- he used to do a lot of songs where it's like call and response.2367.2170 
2105 2367.6278So he'll say something, if I say such and such then you say such and such.2371.0988 
2107 2371.2305So it's like stuff like that.2372.5727 
2109 2373.0916Um,2373.7723 
2111 2374.5429what's another?2375.0576 
2113 2377.7089Junk Yard Band they had Sardines and Pork and [Beans.]2380.1961 
2117 2382.2415Uh,2383.1053 
2119 2384.1873Sugar Bear had something.2385.4300 
2120DCB_int_012387.5158He did one this- the last when I saw him.2389.7860
2122 2389.8883I can't [remember what it was.]2391.3140 
2123DCB_se1_ag3_f_032390.4278[I can't remember what song] it was.2392.0451
2124 2392.5361He had a- he had a lot of call and response songs.2394.8512
2126 2395.3264Um,2395.9943 
2128 2398.3210<ts>2398.3755 
2130 2398.6613yeah that's2398.9696 
2132 2399.2618basically it, um.2400.6751 
2133DCB_int_012401.2365And what about when they do like the neighborhood2403.2923
2135 2403.5163type thing?2404.2323 
2136DCB_se1_ag3_f_032404.3242<ts> Oh when they shout out- (laughing) the shout outs?2406.0195
2138 2406.4659<laugh>2406.7773 
2140 2407.6539So they might say, uptown, uptown.2410.0686 
2142 2410.5393Uh,2411.2072 
2144 2411.4223what's the other one?2412.1156 
2146 2413.0567Uh,2413.5940 
2148 2416.2696what- oh, how would it go?2417.4829 
2150 2418.0709So if they singing a song,2419.4131 
2152 2419.6186we like, Northwest in the house, hear me now.2422.9098 
2154 2423.3035Or Southeast, so they'll go through all the-2425.1594 
2156 2425.7952And then2426.3218 
2158 2426.7938they also do like the, uh,2428.2484 
2160 2428.6742<ts>2428.7609 
2162 2428.9342what we used to call it? The, um, display, where they put the people on display.2431.9558 
2164DCB_se1_ag3_f_032433.1984/unintelligible/ so like, Sugar Bear, he g- if he see me and my girlfriend, he be like,2436.6971
2166 2437.0149/RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/ cause we used to come see him all the time.2440.5695 
2168 2440.9246So, you know, if you get your name called you like, oh he call my name, I'm on display.2445.0057 
2170 2445.4039You be press to get on display.2446.9837 
2172 2447.6246So, um,2448.6168 
2174 2448.8961yeah that's the fun part too about the go go. Cause you trying to get your name on display, you trying to get your-2453.4994 
2176 2453.8590your hood2454.7260 
2178 2455.0406on display, or whatever little gang whatever you was in (laughing)2459.1108 
2180 2459.3645on display, but yup.2460.5108 
2182 2460.9315So [that was like the main-]2461.9782 
2183DCB_int_012461.0503[And so that mean you knew] the band, people like- you kn- you [were in.]2464.0621
2184DCB_se1_ag3_f_032463.5323[Yeah], yeah you were here, or, you know,2465.9650
2185 2466.3053yeah, he know me, he know me, so.2468.4502
2187 2468.6236Mm-hm.2469.3878 
2188DCB_int_012469.6993It's so funny, my boyfriend was showing me a YouTube clip,2472.1833
2190 2472.7516um, of2474.1600 
2192 2475.6993ah, I can't remem- maybe it's Backyard,2477.4159 
2196 2478.8737um,2479.3168 
2198 2479.6379they- they put him on display. He was so excited, like he's like, now listen, you gotta listen, cause this is my- [watch, watch], just listen.2484.9058 
2200DCB_int_012485.2204And he's like, yeah, yeah.2486.3989
2202DCB_int_012486.6172[And I was like], okay, [okay.] (laughing)2488.2965
2203DCB_se1_ag3_f_032487.6190[Yup, yup.]2488.3137
2204DCB_int_012488.8315But he was very ex- And then like when they do the different,2491.3425
2206 2491.6122um,2492.0335 
2208 2492.2223I g- what is it? Repping your n- repping?2494.3103 
2209DCB_se1_ag3_f_032494.5907[Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh.]2496.8640
2210DCB_int_012494.6677[Like when they doing your neighborhood?]2496.4466
2211 2496.8865And so for /here/ they would just-2498.3379
2213 2498.6397it- separate neighborhoods? Or is it just Uptown? Like I know like, [some s-]2501.8173 
2214DCB_se1_ag3_f_032501.3324[Someti-] they'll say Uptown but then they'll start saying like the separate neighborhoods in Uptown.2505.3589
2216DCB_se1_ag3_f_032505.7025Just like, all parts of the, um,2507.0921
2217 2507.1847DC area,2507.8494
2219 2508.2379so yeah.2508.9283 
2221 2509.2686So like, they2509.8466 
2223 2510.1356might say Northeast, they might say Trinidad,2512.3254 
2225 2512.6709Southeast, they might say, uh,2514.4306 
2227 2514.9700<ts>2515.0599 
2229 2515.6700Mississippi Avenue or something like that.2517.2112 
2231DCB_se1_ag3_f_032517.4489[Yeah], stuff like that, mm-hm.2519.0864
2232DCB_int_012519.2264Okay, [alright], alright.2521.3489
2236 2522.4374let me ask you this, /what/?2523.6736 
2238 2524.8797like,2525.2618 
2240 2525.4801<clears throat> recently I was hearing some-2527.2140 
2242 2527.6892some of the like,2528.5626 
2244 2529.3204maybe around your age2531.0402 
2246DCB_int_012531.5026and a little older saying they don't really go to go gos anymore cause they've gotten a little more dangerous.2536.6664
2248DCB_int_012537.0916Do you feel like that?2537.9168
2249DCB_se1_ag3_f_032538.1448It depends on where you going to.2539.3425
2251 2539.6411See, I go to2540.5209 
2253 2540.7103the grown and sexy go gos. I don't do all the crazy little Backyard and2545.1691 
2255 2545.5415all that stuff cause you tend to have a lot of youngins, you know,2548.5502 
2257 2549.3003for that2549.7563 
2259 2549.8526bounce beat stuff, I can't do that.2551.3232 
2261 2551.6379<ts>2551.7181 
2263 2552.0039Um,2552.5305 
2265 2553.0218but I have noticed that Backyard is2554.5213 
2267 2554.8283calm- trying to calm down a little bit off the bounce beat.2557.3682 
2269 2557.8113Cause they did the uh, Hello remix.2560.2869 
2271DCB_se1_ag3_f_032560.5843[I really like] that.2561.3122
2272 2562.0420But yeah, I go to2563.5062
2274 2564.1741like I said, the grown and sexy ones, honey. I can't do- (laughing)2566.5727 
2276 2567.6053Like, Subtle Thoughts, um,2569.5854 
2278 2570.0425what's the other one I said? Um,2571.6704 
2279DCB_int_012572.4892Was it Let it Flow?2573.3519
2280DCB_se1_ag3_f_032573.3324Let it Flow.2574.3278
2281 2574.7420So, you know, and they do like a lot of, um, grown and sexy R and B,2578.5759
2283 2579.0916you know, stuff, and2580.3984 
2285 2581.1113yeah I just stick with those types.2583.0828 
2287 2583.2787Mm-hm.2583.7693 
2288DCB_int_012583.8823Mm, d- are- w- uh, jazz?2585.8269
2290 2585.9939[Do they infuse jazz in-]2587.3099 
2291DCB_se1_ag3_f_032586.0292[They do, uh-huh, they do all-] they do all of that.2588.2704
2292 2588.5819Mm-hm, they infuse all the jazz,2590.0300
2294 2590.5021R and B, um,2592.2283 
2296 2592.5975they might even do some of the little, uh,2594.3892 
2298 2594.9929Caucasian music that be on the radios, yeah, they- yeah.2598.1673 
2299DCB_int_012598.4627And add a [twist to it?]2599.8081
2300DCB_se1_ag3_f_032599.0085[And a- oh my] god, yes.2600.5723
2301 2600.7264They will hook it up.2601.3846
2302DCB_int_012601.4874Who was it? Marlee? Marlee in the Mixx? Or Marlee in the Mixx? Or something like that.2606.0188
2306 2607.8791<ts>2607.9562 
2308 2608.0801I heard them, they were- we went to a2609.8108 
2310 2610.1640like a little spot on U Street2611.6547 
2312DCB_int_012611.8819[and] they were performing. And we went back, just to see-2614.4507
2314DCB_int_012614.7127[Like I really] like- Cause it-2615.9714
2315 2616.1416I think it's more like kind of the grown and [sexy like you called it.]2619.0796
2316DCB_se1_ag3_f_032618.0039[Mm-hm, mm-hm.]2619.2048
2317DCB_int_012619.4970Because it was-2620.1770
2319 2620.5875it was an older crowd, probably like, you know,2622.9884 
2321 2623.4613thirties, forties, [fifties, like that age] group, it wasn't like no [teenagers and stuff.]2627.7948 
2324 2624.9672[Mm-hm.]2625.5227 
2326 2626.9086[Mm-hm, exactly.]2628.2566 
2327DCB_int_012628.3567And just2628.8833
2329 2629.1434drinks and food [and they were performing, it was]2632.0236 
2330DCB_se1_ag3_f_032630.5369[Exactly, and just chilling.]2631.9956
2334 2633.5829another band2634.3952 
2336 2634.6328I do like is- um,2635.9742 
2338 2636.5177and I think they do a little bit of both, they do a little bit of everything, it's called Black Alley.2639.9842 
2340 2640.7163And Black Alley is managed by, um, a friend of mine2643.7314 
2342 2644.1681<ts>2644.2259 
2344 2644.4346that I was in this program with named /RD-NAME-2/.2646.6393 
2346 2647.2140And2647.8530 
2348 2648.0874I started going to see2648.9897 
2350 2649.3044them, uh, I wanna say about four years ago2654.1131 
2352 2654.9512down at U Street2655.9112 
2354 2656.2580at Indulge.2657.1475 
2357 2658.4017That's where I was.2659.2782 
2358DCB_se1_ag3_f_032659.7663And when I first saw the- and the- and the female singer, she is the bomb.2663.4223
2360 2664.0356I'm a singer myself.2664.9379 
2362 2665.2911But she is the bomb.2666.0983 
2364 2667.1534<ts>2667.2048 
2366 2667.4842The whole band is just like the bomb, but she just-2670.4434 
2368 2671.3617I don't know it-2671.8370 
2370 2672.2255it's just her.2673.0443 
2372DCB_se1_ag3_f_032674.0654Their band-2674.6934
2374 2674.8893and they've been doing a lot- they've been doing really great.2677.5053 
2376 2677.9429Like, they've got to play with some famous- um,2680.9246 
2378 2682.1030<ts>2682.1576 
2380 2682.3278some famous celebrities and stuff like that2684.5545 
2382 2684.7746like2685.1727 
2384 2685.8920on the big stage and [everything.]2687.6021 
2386DCB_se1_ag3_f_032688.0773They're doing really good, I- I like Black Alley.2690.2736
2387DCB_int_012690.7296So talking about U Street,2691.8643
2389 2692.6613cause-2692.9953 
2391 2693.8462So you remember when U Street- Kind of talk about2696.5132 
2393 2697.7186if you remember it changing, right? So like when it was live, then it went down, now it's-2702.5048 
2394DCB_se1_ag3_f_032703.2337Yeah I don't know what is going with-2704.5361
2396DCB_se1_ag3_f_032706.1416[I don't know what's] going on with U Street now. It's like2708.4599
2397 2709.2305I guess because the change of dynamics2712.9379
2399 2714.0489<ts>2714.1452 
2401 2714.4856I wanna say gentrification going on.2716.3447 
2403 2718.4402Yeah, [so.]2719.4260 
2404DCB_int_012719.0085[Tell me some] earlier memories of it.2720.7579
2405 2721.1663Like,2721.4476
2407DCB_int_012722.0397when you were younger.2722.9227
2408DCB_se1_ag3_f_032724.1384I don't remember too much about U Street when I was younger cause I don't think-2727.4264
2410 2727.8406Only thing I remember about U Street is when my grandfather used to take us down to Ben's Chili Bowl.2731.8686 
2412 2733.6608Cause he liked to go down there and get his half smokes or whatever.2736.2379 
2414 2736.6457<laugh>2737.4677 
2416 2738.0553That's probably the only thing I remember about U Street.2740.4892 
2418 2741.1815<ts>2741.2329 
2420 2741.3324Um,2741.9084 
2422 2743.8562but as I got older,2745.2947 
2424 2746.1842you know, started going down there to, you know, little functions and stuff like that.2749.1948 
2426 2749.6604Um,2750.2961 
2428 2750.7970but I say over the past2751.7443 
2430 2752.0705two years since a lot of-2755.0149 
2432 2755.9044you know, they've been doing a lot of construction and2758.3383 
2434 2758.8424a lot of,2759.3292 
2436 2759.6278you know,2759.9385 
2438 2760.1737changes been happening,2761.5094 
2440 2763.1631<ts>2763.2080 
2442 2763.5259um,2764.1299 
2444 2765.9553it's been a little different.2766.9315 
2446 2768.1805But it seems like- I don't know, it's like,2770.0245 
2448 2771.4480you know, both races are trying to get along together, so it's like2774.7874 
2450 2774.9672you kind of can party in the same2776.4635 
2452 2776.9856vicinity sometimes.2778.7195 
2454 2779.3649So I could see-2780.2287 
2456 2781.9305you know, I could see that now,2783.7819 
2458 2784.2925but2784.5494 
2460 2785.3682I don't know.2785.7348 
2462 2787.4521It's just- it's-2788.0011 
2464 2788.5265it's still a little2789.2842 
2466 2789.5957different.2790.0477 
2467DCB_int_012790.3952Is Indulge open or is it closed?2792.5273
2468DCB_se1_ag3_f_032792.5241That's a good question.2793.4617
2469DCB_int_012793.9433Cause when I was on U Street, uh, a few weeks ago-2796.7516
2470DCB_se1_ag3_f_032796.8801I don't know if they still- are they still Indulge, did they change their name?2799.9241
2471DCB_int_012799.9177Maybe, cause they're right across- they're not too far from Ben's, right? They're- [it's right across and] then go like, [down a] door or something like that?2805.4906
2472DCB_se1_ag3_f_032802.4306[I think they're right across the s-]2803.5833
2474 2804.2640[Yeah.]2804.6140 
2475 2806.0011I'm'a have to ride past there today and find out.2807.9810
2478 2809.0374I'm- cause I'm'a go back that way cause I'm'a go over [to,]2811.1530 
2480DCB_int_012811.3493uh, Benning Road, so I'm'a- I'm'a [ride back. Cause] last time I was there we were at, um, Alero.2816.4535
2482 2816.8227Okay.2817.2497
2483DCB_int_012817.3301And- but I rode that way to get to Alero.2819.7884
2485DCB_int_012819.9104[<clears throat>]2820.4241
2486 2821.3296And I didn't-2822.1356
2488 2822.7071Cause it- there's some construction going [on]2824.3499 
2489DCB_se1_ag3_f_032824.0416[Mm, yeah.]2824.9214
2490DCB_int_012824.6453[next to it.]2825.4737
2492DCB_int_012825.6503[I don't know if] it's condos or if they're building [a new-]2827.7727
2493DCB_se1_ag3_f_032827.4099[Oh god.] (whispered)2828.1992
2494DCB_int_012829.4328Why you [say-]2829.8448
2495DCB_se1_ag3_f_032829.7089[It's] like every- /I was tell- s-/2830.9066
2496 2831.5893Every time I turn around it's like they building up condos2834.6397
2498 2835.9883everywhere.2836.7589 
2500 2837.5315And it's so much construction in DC, it's driving me crazy. It's like every time I turn around,2840.9993 
2502 2841.6833<sigh> I gotta do a detour here or I got- I- I can't take it no more.2844.7484 
2504 2845.5448And now,2846.1677 
2506 2846.9608I live over off of /RD-ADDRESS-3/2848.3543 
2508 2849.1173by the other Boys and Girls Club, I live a half block up.2851.1338 
2509DCB_int_012851.4741Oh, that's where I'm going now.2852.5341
2510DCB_se1_ag3_f_032852.6525Mm-hm, I live a half a block up.2854.1167
2512 2855.4030And when I say I miss living Uptown so bad (laughing)2857.5191 
2514 2858.6429it's just like,2859.1984 
2516 2859.3943over there it's just like so much going on, like I don't even let my son go outside over there.2863.1466 
2518 2863.4260That's why we up here all the time.2864.8516 
2520 2866.5329It's just so2867.4416 
2522 2868.9443different.2870.0039 
2524 2870.7328Like,2871.3493 
2526 2871.8053it's just too many things going on over there. It's- it's- it's2874.5879 
2528 2874.7998dangerous.2875.6026 
2530 2877.4938Like, too many things and I'm just like,2879.6083 
2532 2880.4498ooh. Cause I bought a condo over there.2882.4438 
2534 2883.8984I just go in my little condo,2885.4544 
2536 2886.1319shut my door. (laughing)2887.2204 
2538 2888.6814But it's just2889.7314 
2540 2889.8277like,2890.3736 
2542 2890.7255if I wanted my child to go outside and play, I would not let him2893.7567 
2544 2894.4535out2894.6622 
2546 2894.8934over there.2895.3236 
2548 2896.0108We'll go up here, go to the2897.3131 
2550 2897.6535parks or the playgrounds up this way,2899.5319 
2552 2900.1580cause it's safer2900.9194 
2554 2901.1213to me.2901.4707 
2558 2904.1018/it just/2904.3984 
2560 2904.5429too many things going on over on that side of town.2907.1245 
2561DCB_int_012908.1938Why do you think that's so? Like why is it [such a big difference?]2910.7645
2562DCB_se1_ag3_f_032909.6952[I don't know.]2910.6906
2563 2910.8833I don't know.2911.4516
2565 2911.7888And the crazy part is2913.0885 
2567 2914.6883a lot of, um,2915.6696 
2569 2915.8173my friends or2916.9860 
2571 2917.2815people I went to school with2918.3892 
2573 2919.8245that lived up here,2920.8296 
2575 2921.5443they live on that side,2922.8994 
2577 2923.0182because the cost of living Uptown is so,2925.7989 
2579 2926.5310so2927.1622 
2581 2927.3356expensive.2928.1263 
2583 2928.7420Even with these new condos they building up,2930.7681 
2585 2931.6447you gonna have to have at least three jobs2933.3292 
2587 2934.5654just to pay the-2935.1948 
2589 2935.3938pay the rent.2935.8434 
2591 2936.2158My mortgage is less than what the-2937.7378 
2593 2938.1007what the rent is up here.2939.1634 
2595DCB_se1_ag3_f_032942.0874I was like, shoot I can't move back up here cause I ain't gonna be able to afford that.2944.8116
2597 2945.9746Two thousand dollars, almost two thousand dollars for a one [bedroom.]2949.1604 
2598DCB_int_012948.6269[Bedroom], right.2949.5773
2599 2949.7924Right right right. Don't [go for-]2950.8925
2601 2951.0787f-2951.1751
2603 2951.2810yeah,2951.6824 
2605 2951.9585for an efficiency it's like fifteen hundred do-2953.9493 
2607 2954.3689I was like, are you serious?2955.5954 
2609 2957.1526That's crazy.2957.9746 
2611 2958.2507So,2958.6867 
2613 2960.1420I feel like that's justification right there cause you pushing all the African Americans2964.5526 
2615 2966.2929out on to this side or into Maryland or whatever,2969.4255 
2617 2969.9040where it's cheaper for them to live,2971.0149 
2619 2971.5126but then you got all this stuff2972.8356 
2621 2973.0250going on2973.8984 
2623 2974.1039on this2974.5181 
2625 2974.7287side of town, not just Northeast but Southeast.2977.2237 
2627 2977.3553You know, it's just-2978.4181 
2629 2979.3654it's crazy.2980.0814 
2630DCB_int_012981.3645It's a lot.2981.9139
2632 2982.3182[/It's-/]2982.7484 
2633DCB_se1_ag3_f_032982.3310[It is-]2982.7484
2634 2983.3007it is- it's just too much going on. They not making it affordable2986.4539
2636 2987.3035for2987.9361 
2638 2988.5558African Americans up here.2989.7470 
2640DCB_se1_ag3_f_032991.9099But even so on the Benning Road side I see a lot of them.2994.8737
2641DCB_int_012996.4406On [Minnesota Avenue.]2997.6287
2642DCB_se1_ag3_f_032996.7874[It's a lot] of 'em.2998.1315
2643 2998.8347Even in the worst pla-2999.6856
2645 2999.9168Twenty-first Street, and, you know, Twenty-first Street used to be off the chain.3002.4888 
2647 3003.5002And I see a lot of them3004.8199 
2649 3004.9856over there. I said, wait a minute,3006.3374 
2651 3006.8191my girlfriend used to live on Tenth and G,3008.7553 
2653 3009.6255uh, Northeast.3011.0383 
2655 3011.6567She said she was last person- before she bought her house,3013.8691 
2657 3014.1259she was the last3014.9929 
2659 3015.1695black person in the building.3016.2452 
2661 3017.7691And she lived over there since she was young, since she was little.3020.0842 
2663 3020.5145Her mom passed and everything,3021.8438 
2665 3022.2291and she was still there.3023.0651 
2667 3024.6585She said she was the last African American3027.3333 
2669 3027.9273in her building.3028.9310 
2671 3029.2618And them people- When I say my girlfriend lived there for a long time,3031.9943 
2673 3032.3507everybody in the building was African American.3034.1026 
2675 3034.4751And they lived there for a long time, they got pushed out.3036.4755 
2677 3038.1837So you don't see nothing around there but the Caucasians.3040.9645 
2680 3043.1209So no longer Chocolate City?3044.4278 
2683 3046.5843I see a lot of vanilla.3047.4705 
2685DCB_se1_ag3_f_033049.3938No longer Chocolate City.3050.5525
2687 3052.4494<ts>3052.5265 
2689 3053.0402[And not-]3053.4589 
2690DCB_int_013053.0980[Do you feel] like that makes it safer?3054.7420
2691 3054.9154Or [do you feel] like it-3055.9461
2693 3057.0539I don't think so. I think it just-3058.7589
2695 3060.5108to me,3060.9988 
2697 3061.5319I think it make it racist.3062.9559 
2700 3064.6401I do.3065.0948
2702 3066.1191I do.3066.5012 
2703DCB_int_013067.0727Because of everybody getting pushed out?3068.5337
2706 3069.7025And they- and I- and I think they3071.3067 
2708 3072.5461<ts>3072.6296 
2710 3072.8127make it unaffordable3074.0746 
2712 3074.7135on purpose,3075.4553 
2714 3077.4833<ts>3077.5411 
2716 3077.6888for the people to live, especially Uptown.3079.5191 
2718 3080.6204For African Americans.3081.9337 
2720 3083.4831<ts>3083.5864 
2722 3083.7370They have a- you know, they have to have a certain amount where they-3085.9172 
2724 3086.6461that has to be affordable, uh,3088.7429 
2726 3089.2971rent.3089.6985 
2728 3091.4356Um,3091.9236 
2730 3092.0681a- you know, a small portion.3093.3943 
2731DCB_int_013093.4232Like section [eight-ish stuff like that.]3095.4833
2732DCB_se1_ag3_f_033094.6067[Yeah, something like that], yeah.3096.0388
2733 3096.6168But3096.9539
2735 3098.2672even if somebody that has a good job,3099.8712 
2737 3101.6599you know what I'm saying.3102.5686 
2739 3103.0342And they might wanna purchase one of these,3104.7296 
2741 3104.9062you know, luxury con-3105.6736 
2743 3105.9979They can't afford it.3106.8135 
2744DCB_int_013107.8044Several hundred thousands.3109.2493
2746 3109.6443If not close to [a million.]3111.5516 
2747DCB_se1_ag3_f_033110.7296[You know,]3111.5269
2748 3112.6742it's ridiculous. I'm like, wait a minute.3114.7452
2750DCB_se1_ag3_f_033117.2080Cause even the one that, um-3118.6465
2752 3120.1865What's that new- uh,3121.2140 
2754 3121.7984I think those little apartments right there on Minnesota.3124.1585 
2755DCB_int_013125.2586[Um, three] tree or something like that.3127.1113
2756DCB_se1_ag3_f_033125.4448[Right before you get-]3126.0934
2757 3127.1145Yeah.3127.5118
2759 3128.0103Cause I looked into the, uh,3129.4810 
2761 3129.8566rent for those, I was like, goodness gracious.3132.0806 
2763DCB_se1_ag3_f_033133.1466[How] they expect for people to live?3134.7360
2764DCB_int_013134.8709I looked into the rent for those, too.3136.4346
2766 3137.0113Yup.3137.2714 
2768 3137.5507Like, thirteen hundred for like a3139.5576 
2770 3140.1163studio [maybe.]3141.9819 
2772DCB_int_013142.6388Um, fifteen hundred or something like that for a two bedroom.3145.4581
2774 3145.6764Which is better than other places in- [but still.]3148.2567 
2776 3148.5136I'm like, you could buy a house and pay less than that.3150.4081
2777DCB_int_013151.3104I was reading- a friend of mine posted an article on Facebook saying you have to make at least thirty dollars an hour to have a one bedroom3157.2012
2779 3157.5287in DC.3158.1805 
2780DCB_se1_ag3_f_033158.3732That is so true. /RD-NAME-2/ was talking about that, uh, on Friday.3161.0852
2782 3162.5590I was like, that is so true.3163.6315 
2785 3164.4920And so that's- you know, that's someone forty-five, fifty thousand dollars a year,3168.4819 
2787 3168.8480and not everybody's making forty-five, fifty thousand dollars a year to-3172.7782 
2788DCB_se1_ag3_f_033173.1141Yeah, minimum wage ain't even that.3174.5269
2789DCB_int_013175.3168Mm-mm, what, twenty-five, thirty thousand?3177.5420
2791DCB_int_013178.1456And you barely like-3179.5957
2793 3179.8237It's- it's tough, [it's tough.]3181.4450 
2794DCB_se1_ag3_f_033180.6778[It's really diff-] Because I remember when I first3183.1378
2795 3183.4970started when- my very first apartment,3185.8723
2797 3186.4145I was nineteen.3187.5640 
2799 3188.8709As a matter of fact, my very first apartment was over on Fiftieth and J, Northeast.3191.9650 
2801 3192.2315I paid four hundred dollars for rent3193.6122 
2802DCB_int_013196.1553You might get [a room.]3197.0884
2803DCB_se1_ag3_f_033196.4815[for my one] bedroom.3197.6122
2804 3198.2154And I had a nice size apartment.3199.4131
2806 3200.1292My second apartment3201.2369 
2808 3202.1989<ts>3202.2471 
2810 3202.4879I think my cousin and I had together,3203.9393 
2812 3204.8255over in Maryland by PG Plaza.3206.6782 
2814 3207.0892Our rent /still was-/ We had a two bedroom,3208.7878 
2816 3209.1108and that was like, five sixty.3211.0214 
2818 3213.0346Then when I moved from there,3214.0686 
2820 3214.2375my other apartment I paid,3215.8975 
2822 3217.1177I had a one bedroom, four fifty.3218.5691 
2824 3220.3351And before when I3221.4737 
2826 3221.7049moved out that apartment3222.8351 
2828 3223.4260and I moved on, uh, Georgia and Dahlia,3225.5034 
2830 3225.7860before I bought my condo, I lived over3227.1558 
2832 3227.3774Georgia and Dahlia for maybe like, four or five ye-3229.0053 
2834 3229.4388I was only paying3230.3475 
2836 3231.0507like five,3231.7700 
2838 3232.0910five hundred.3232.6722 
2840DCB_se1_ag3_f_033236.5177So I'm like,3237.3557
2842 3237.8663what is the reason for these3239.4159 
2844 3240.3695rents being so3241.5608 
2846 3242.1131[high?]3242.9211 
2848DCB_se1_ag3_f_033243.4392Can't nobody afford that.3244.6228
2850 3245.0466I remember back in the day, you could get a three bedroom for like eight hundred dollars.3248.6397 
2853 3252.4209[Now that's what?]3253.1516 
2854DCB_se1_ag3_f_033252.4884[I'm like, it's almost] like two thousand dollars.3254.6782
2856DCB_se1_ag3_f_033257.6310And then you wonder why you got so many homeless people.3259.8948
2858 3260.5980N- everybody should be able to live in a home,3262.9773 
2860 3263.2168no one should be homeless.3264.4819 
2862 3265.8530That's how I feel.3266.5819 
2864 3267.0154No one should be homeless3268.3447 
2866 3268.9535in the United States of America, period.3270.8429 
2868 3273.7025And with DC, all this money you generating from all these ticket sales, I mean, ticket, um,3279.2819 
2870 3280.0686that you giving people and whatever else you getting money,3282.5526 
2872 3283.6282you got millions of dollars.3284.7617 
2874 3285.5741You can build3286.6626 
2876 3287.3099at least three or four places3288.9347 
2878 3289.2782for people to be able to3290.6814 
2880 3291.0828live affordably.3292.1456 
2882 3293.6631And not charge no fifteen hundred,3295.7149 
2884 3296.3090two thousand, three thou-3297.5323 
2886 3297.8181Uh-uh.3298.2928 
2888 3300.7870Cause it should be no reason that these families3303.2626 
2890 3303.5356should be living in shelters, living in hotels.3305.7884 
2892 3307.7888You know, it's- it's crazy, and that's- I had to tell my son that3310.3479 
2894 3310.7801please be grateful3311.6631 
2896 3312.6521about what you have cause it's kids out here who don't have3314.8452 
2898 3315.3140any3315.7346 
2900 3315.9883thing.3316.4443 
2902 3316.8488When I say anything, they living on the street, not even in a building.3319.3971 
2904 3319.7342On the street.3320.7746 
2906DCB_se1_ag3_f_033321.6576[Don't have] no food,3322.8745
2907 3324.0420don't have none of the luxuries that you have.3325.9879
2909DCB_se1_ag3_f_033327.7346So please be grateful and thankful.3329.3902
2911 3330.2796I said, because me, I'm not gonna see3332.2383 
2913 3332.6879us on the street.3333.4328 
2915DCB_se1_ag3_f_033335.3324I said I will have to do what I have to do by any means necessary3338.3700
2917 3338.8613to make sure we have a roof over our head3340.5843 
2919 3340.8700and foods in- food in our belly and clothes on your back.3343.1916 
2921 3344.3250So please be grateful.3345.3975 
2924 3347.3292It's- it's- it's a lot.3348.7326 
2926 3348.9218[Do you feel-]3349.6571 
2927DCB_se1_ag3_f_033348.9925[It's- it's sad.]3349.9012
2928DCB_int_013350.3411do you feel like3351.3397
2930 3353.0819you are at a point where3355.1273 
2932 3356.1998you feel like it's- for you it's stable and you don't have to- you know, you're not trying to say, okay well, we gonna-3362.6750 
2934 3362.9030we can't stay here, or we gotta be moved out3365.0209 
2936 3365.4319cause you in a good place?3366.7195 
2939 3367.3553Um, I'm not gonna say necessarily that3370.0333 
2941 3370.6645my income is stable.3371.9618 
2943 3372.8672Cause I'm still, you know, working on building my [business.]3375.2379 
2944DCB_int_013374.8002[Business], right3375.4906
2945DCB_se1_ag3_f_033375.6800But I still have-3376.7525
2947 3377.2521Because my mom taught me how to be a good hustler,3379.3296 
2949 3379.7406<laugh>3380.4759 
2950DCB_int_013380.6590Have that side hustle.3381.5784
2951DCB_se1_ag3_f_033381.5901you know what I'm saying, she taught me how to survive.3383.6342
2953 3385.4163I'm'a make sure that we stable,3386.8805 
2955DCB_se1_ag3_f_033387.1823[you know what I'm] saying, so.3388.4490
2956 3388.9728You know, I be struggling,3390.1448
2958 3390.4627I said, but I- I- what I do, I just keep my faith in God,3393.1541 
2960 3393.9645I pray every day,3395.1592 
2962 3395.3324you know, Lord,3396.1705 
2964 3396.9315please, you know, bless my finances so I'll be able to do X, Y, Z for my son or whatever.3401.7787 
2966 3402.5558I- I just keep the faith.3403.9411 
2968DCB_se1_ag3_f_033404.8324That's all I can do. I don't complain,3406.9057
2970 3407.1686I ain't cussing nobody out.3408.5269 
2972 3409.6507I just stay humble3410.6269 
2974 3410.7489with everything, because I know3412.5759 
2976 3413.0916something gonna happen.3413.9040 
2979 3414.5397always, [always.]3415.7984 
2980DCB_se1_ag3_f_033415.6026[And I'm] very good with, you know, trying to- you know, with marketing myself, um, but like I said had to put my3420.0773
2981 3420.5879business a little bit on the back burner cause I was promoting him,3423.0282
2983DCB_se1_ag3_f_033423.2658[So I'm] trying to find3424.2388
2984 3424.5310a healthy balance3425.6342
2985DCB_int_013425.8205[Between] the two, [mm-hm.]3426.9765
2988 3426.4627[with-]3426.6264 
2990 3426.8062[between] the two.3427.5672 
2991 3428.1388But, you know, as a mother, you gon- you gonna3430.3672
2992DCB_int_013430.9792Push your kid.3431.6920
2995 3432.4498you know what I'm saying, [that's what we do.]3434.0200 
2996DCB_int_013433.1980[Exactly, that's] what you-3434.2755
2997 3434.8291that's3435.1558
2998DCB_se1_ag3_f_033435.5709But [one thing I love] about him, because he promotes me and I be promoting him.3438.8127
3001 3438.8094[<laugh>]3441.7250 
3002DCB_se1_ag3_f_033439.1594[It is so funny, I'm like, oh my gosh.]3441.4888
3003DCB_int_013442.1745Y'all promoting each [other and]3443.5283
3005DCB_int_013443.6888You trying to do it for him, and [he trying to do it for] you and it's just all working out.3447.0860
3007 3447.1021[Yes.]3447.6961
3008DCB_int_013447.5131[So have] you seen-3448.4411
3009 3448.8167What do you- what's your goal? Like what ultimately- like what d- when you say, I've arrived, this is-3453.4392
3011 3453.6736this is what I3454.5521 
3013 3454.8026consider success, what is that for you?3456.5943 
3014DCB_se1_ag3_f_033456.7709For me, with my business, I would say that3460.0140
3016 3460.7544I have arrived when3462.1544 
3018 3463.0021I have3463.7310 
3020 3464.2480X amount of contracts under my belt.3466.1617 
3022DCB_se1_ag3_f_033466.8893And also that I have reached,3468.6746
3024 3469.4484um,3469.9590 
3026 3471.0732families and- and- and- and children3473.8140 
3028 3474.2957with their weight loss goals, or their- you know, their healthy3477.0314 
3030 3477.4521goals. That's,3478.4346 
3032 3478.5457you know.3478.8475 
3034 3479.5219I'm just one of those people,3480.7741 
3036 3481.9365yes I wanna make money,3483.0025 
3039DCB_int_013484.6067But the mission.3485.4521
3040DCB_se1_ag3_f_033485.7787the mission,3486.5140
3042 3486.6906you know what I'm saying, is- is more important.3488.6626 
3044DCB_se1_ag3_f_033489.9003[Because], you know, I still have a mission for myself, I'm still working on myself,3493.1016
3045 3493.5159you know what I'm saying. So,3494.4952
3047 3494.8452I always tell 'em, I'm like, I'm not where I wanna be, but we have a goal.3497.9778 
3049 3498.4306You know what I'm saying, we do this together,3500.0688 
3051 3501.2337you [know.]3501.6961 
3053 3502.3723I saw the- um, the board in the back3504.7260
3055DCB_int_013505.5576with the /?/ I was like, I love this, [I love-]3508.1938
3057DCB_int_013508.3319cause it- it really-3509.4769
3059 3509.7787Just like I was- you know,3510.9272 
3061 3511.0760we talk to the staff,3511.9975 
3063 3512.4278what we do here is great, but if- if- if the same kinds of lessons and things like that aren't happening once they leave here,3518.0392 
3065 3518.5113it's all for naught. [Like,]3519.9080 
3067DCB_int_013520.8219because they're here for two hours, they're at home for ten [hours.]3524.1271
3069DCB_int_013524.9094That's five times more at home, so if you not- you know, if you not saying, let's drink water [or let's go for a] walk or,3530.9608
3071DCB_int_013531.2145you know, let's make sure that we,3532.9021
3073 3533.2714um, are good citizens, [or we study] and we3536.0136 
3075DCB_int_013536.1869do the thing,3536.7264
3077 3537.0892it doesn't matter.3537.8085 
3079DCB_int_013538.6228And so that's gr- I love the fact that it's- it's not simply like, okay that's what you did here, or [did-]3543.3473
3081DCB_int_013543.5034No, but we're doing- we're embracing these things, [I love that.]3546.2403
3083DCB_int_013546.5558[I love it, I love-]3547.9975
3084DCB_se1_ag3_f_033546.6585[I do too, I do too.]3547.9532
3085DCB_int_013548.6012So I'm'a ask you a unhealthy [question]3550.2305
3087DCB_int_013550.6099cause- cause we talking about-3551.8099
3089 3552.1191So,3552.4498 
3091 3552.6136<clears throat>3553.0599 
3093 3553.8466[one of] the things [that DC] is known for is mumbo sauce.3557.6503 
3096 3554.6204[<laugh>]3555.2755 
3097 3557.7691Yes.3558.5205
3098DCB_int_013558.4819So tell me a little bit about-3559.6764
3099 3559.8081Do you like mumbo sauce?3560.7938
3100DCB_se1_ag3_f_033560.7906I don't like mumbo [sauce.]3562.2227
3101DCB_int_013562.0512[Okay], tell me why.3563.0948
3103 3563.8879I don't know, I just never been-3565.5512
3105 3565.7888I mean, I tasted it before, it's okay, but I'm just like3567.7667 
3107 3567.9787not a big mumbo sauce3569.6599 
3109 3570.4916eater3570.8676 
3111 3571.5576on my chicken and stuff.3572.5749 
3113 3573.3622But a lot of people like it, I don't know what the3575.5861 
3115 3576.3567craze is about it, but.3577.8081 
3117 3578.9865[Yeah, that's a big thing.]3580.0493 
3118DCB_int_013579.1021[Now where- where do you] get it from?3580.5927
3121 3581.7113the mumbo [sauce?]3582.5269 
3123DCB_se1_ag3_f_033583.2493I don't know, I thought it was something that the Chinese people made up.3586.1135
3125 3587.3388The Asian people made up.3588.2796 
3127 3588.7613But,3589.1594 
3129 3590.7713I don't know, apparently3591.9016 
3131 3593.3613that's supposed to be a black thing I guess.3595.2526 
3133 3595.8980I don't know.3596.4888 
3135 3596.7424I'll have to do some research.3597.9016 
3136DCB_int_013598.1874Me t-3598.4499
3138 3598.5971I'm still learning. I ask people about it, but it's-3601.1434 
3140DCB_int_013603.0057Like you can't buy it in stores. [You just have to] go-3605.4994
3141DCB_se1_ag3_f_033604.4044[<laugh> Right.]3605.0755
3142 3605.5989It's something that-3606.4081
3144 3607.4131I don't even know what it's m- what the ingredients are of the mumbo sauce, to tell you the truth.3611.1346 
3145DCB_int_013611.2939Me neither.3611.6979
3147 3612.1030[Nobody does.]3613.0760 
3149DCB_int_013613.2718It's kind of a mystery, [cause if you go to] one place it's-3615.8245
3151DCB_int_013616.5200thick, if you go to [another place it's-]3618.8608
3152DCB_se1_ag3_f_033617.4962[Right, and it's just l- yeah], so I don't know.3620.7039
3153 3621.1856But I never- yeah, I wasn't a big mumbo sauce.3623.4865