Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DCB_int_01	0.4473	And your birthday?	1.3892
2	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1.6270	January twenty third	2.7228
4		2.9513	nineteen ninety two.	3.6647
5	DCB_int_01	6.0556	And where were you born?	7.3472
6	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	7.9394	Southeast Washington DC.	9.1937
7	DCB_int_01	11.6546	And	12.3773
9		12.8063	what do you consider your neighborhood- your childhood neighborhood or neighborhoods?	16.1823
10	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	16.3828	Woodland.	16.8957
11	DCB_int_01	17.1382	Woodland?	17.5065
12	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	17.6884	Mm-hm.	17.9215
13	DCB_int_01	19.1933	And how many years did you live in DC?	21.3709
14	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	21.8885	<ts>	22.0470
16		22.2522	Um, from nineteen ninety two until	24.9975
18		25.6643	um,	26.1119
20		26.2565	late	26.5689
22		26.7368	nineteen nineties.	27.8512
24		28.0051	Um,	28.3455
26		28.5366	I wanna say we moved about two thousand.	30.0101
27	DCB_int_01	30.3214	Around two thousand.	31.0255
28	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	31.2307	Mm-hm.	31.4405
29	DCB_int_01	31.5804	Perfect.	31.9581
31		32.5922	And where other places- or what other places have you lived?	35.1242
32	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	35.9110	Um- I-	36.3727
34		36.6478	Woodland,	36.9602
36		37.0581	my whole life.	37.5617
38		37.8275	Um, [/or-/]	38.4523
39	DCB_int_01	37.9627	[/Woodland/, and] then-	38.7554
40	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	39.1564	From-	39.4082
42		39.9258	/that area-/ I-	40.6392
44		41.0123	Af- after that? [When I moved to Virginia?]	42.5639
45	DCB_int_01	41.7805	[Mm-hm, after that.] Mm-hm.	42.8203
46	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	42.8296	Um, I lived in Virginia	43.7156
47	DCB_int_01	43.8555	[Just- Okay.]	44.4337
48	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	43.8881	[my whole /lifed/.] Mm-hm.	44.7041
49	DCB_int_01	45.8792	Um,	46.5087
51		47.2827	where'd you go to school?	47.8609
52	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	49.1887	All of the schools?	49.9161
53	DCB_int_01	49.9208	Mm-hm.	50.1819
54	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	50.3637	Okay.	50.6202
56		50.8767	Um,	51.3942
58		51.8465	starting out in DC I went to a Catholic school. I'm not sure the name of it. I cannot remember. Um,	56.5876
60		56.7274	but it	57.3383
62		57.4502	is off of um,	58.8630
64		59.3562	Randolph Street.	60.0463
66		60.7644	And then after that,	62.0840
68		62.3171	when we moved to Virginia, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Elementary School.	64.8864
69	DCB_int_01	64.9190	Mm-hm.	65.2909
70	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	67.4871	And then I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Middle School.	68.7647
72		72.3960	And then I went to	72.8856
74		73.0488	c- uh,	73.4591
76		73.6923	/RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School.	74.4943
78		77.3153	And that was for ninth grade,	78.4146
80		79.3426	and then I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School where I graduated.	81.6973
81	DCB_int_01	81.9771	/RD-SCHOOL-3/?	82.5087
82	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	82.6346	Mm-hm.	82.8910
83	DCB_int_01	85.2866	And then [/??/]	86.1119
84	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	85.9487	[Uh], /RD-SCHOOL-2/ University for my bachelor's.	87.4828
85	DCB_int_01	89.1755	Hence, that's where you met	90.3074
87		90.4986	/RD-NAME-3/	90.7923
88	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	91.0162	[Mm-hm.]	91.2773
89	DCB_int_01	91.1374	[cause she] also went to /unintelligible/-	91.8322
90	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	91.8322	[<laugh>]	92.4197
91	DCB_int_01	92.2658	[Now] I understand that, uh, connection.	93.6927
92		94.1123	Occupation?	94.6532
93	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	95.4599	I'm a	96.0894
95		96.2794	/RD-WORK-7/.	97.2586
96	DCB_int_01	98.8487	/These little flies/.	99.8885
97	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	102.0603	Um, and I am a /RD-WORK-13/	104.9886
98	DCB_int_01	110.8533	By who?	111.2963
99	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	111.6507	/RD-WORK-13/	113.4785
100	DCB_int_01	117.9211	I will get that off the recording.	119.2314
102		119.5252	And your dad was born in?	121.6596
103	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	122.0420	Southeast Washington [DC.]	123.3756
104	DCB_int_01	123.0445	[DC.]	123.3290
105	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	123.5994	Mm-hm.	123.8559
106	DCB_int_01	124.4014	And your mom?	124.9843
107	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	125.3981	DC.	125.6977
108	DCB_int_01	126.9649	And	127.6130
110		127.8228	what does your dad do?	128.5736
112		128.7088	I know I just talked to him, but-	129.7906
113	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	129.7160	<laugh> [He's a plumber. <laugh>]	131.4226
114	DCB_int_01	130.1030	[<laugh>]	131.4319
115		132.4659	Um, and what does your mom do?	133.6223
116	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	133.8135	Um, she's a stay at home mom.	134.8254
117	DCB_int_01	137.1382	Cool.	137.4133
119		138.7644	Alright, so I'll type all that up.	140.3591
121		141.9025	So,	142.2942
123		143.0589	as much as you can remember, I want you to tell me a little bit about	146.7088
125		147.3243	growing up	148.1636
127		148.4574	um,	149.1335
129		149.3713	Woodland Terrace.	150.1489
130	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	150.3587	Okay.	150.7084
131	DCB_int_01	150.7923	Um,	151.4918
133		152.0420	if you can remember your house, your siblings, your [family.]	154.6392
134	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	154.1869	[And would] you like me- Cause basically we moved in two thousand, but we went-	157.9814
135		158.1166	we were	158.6342
137		158.8906	in DC cause my grandmother still lived there until about	161.5205
139		161.8131	four or five years ago.	163.0115
141		163.4311	So, you want me to keep all of that my mind of my time in [/of in DC/?]	166.2056
142	DCB_int_01	165.6367	[Most definitely.] I [mean you] tell me what you want.	167.5019
143	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	166.4247	[Okay.]	166.7325
144	DCB_int_01	167.6557	The [whole point] is about telling stories, kind of your experience,	170.3031
145	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	167.7991	[Okay.]	168.1768
146		170.5549	[Okay.]	170.8953
147	DCB_int_01	170.7041	[and] it's actually great that you moved out- And kind of what you remember, [what stuck out] to you, [so that's-] that's actually- I'm really excited to hear that part too.	176.8207
148	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	173.7292	[Oh yes.]	174.1908
150		174.5452	[<laugh>]	174.9695
151		176.9932	Okay.	177.3056
153		177.4688	Um, so we lived with my grandmother the majority of the time while we lived in DC.	181.0068
155		181.4638	And I can't remember	183.3476
157		183.6320	the	184.2475
159		185.2221	address or anything cause I [was too] young. Um, but it was a townhouse type community, and she lived in the first	190.7045
160	DCB_int_01	186.0742	[Mm.]	186.2608
161	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	190.8910	set of townhouses.	191.7851
163		192.2794	Um,	192.6897
165		193.0674	and the earliest I remember,	194.4057
167		194.5502	um, is that it was a safe environment when I was younger.	197.2547
169		197.7385	And I don't know if I perceived it as safe because I was so young, [um], but when I took /RD-NAME-1/ back	202.5366
170	DCB_int_01	200.9000	[Mm-hm.]	201.2404
171	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	202.7884	about a month ago, like	204.4333
173		205.0161	I called my brother, and I'm like, it looks so different.	206.9652
175		207.1098	Like, it looks unsafe.	208.3268
177		208.8906	But as a child, I'm like,	210.0144
179		210.1589	we went	210.5040
181		210.6345	every holiday.	211.4738
183		211.9075	Um, Fourth of July, we would be outside, literally	215.0923
185		215.2170	until one o'clock in the morning cause we were so young,	217.2127
187		217.5391	um, playing with my cousins, everything.	219.2691
189		219.7727	Um,	220.1690
191		220.7752	so	221.3021
193		221.9771	I-	222.1776
195		222.3314	I do remember though,	223.6744
197		223.9308	there are times when	224.8401
199		224.9660	we heard gunshots,	226.0618
200	DCB_int_01	226.2156	Mm.	226.4208
201	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	226.4441	but	226.7845
203		227.0725	we were too young to equate it with	228.7464
205		229.4179	it [being]	229.8329
206	DCB_int_01	229.5438	[something] going on.	230.3085
207	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	230.4204	worrisome.	230.9613
209		231.4229	Um,	231.8613
211		232.3882	I remember that when we did move, we moved into	235.3806
213		235.6697	a high rise type apartment	237.2364
215		237.5349	building. Um, and I only remember that because my brother dropped me on my head.	241.1008
217		242.1792	I remem- /while/ we were living there, someone was killed.	244.2169
219		244.7892	Um, and	245.7871
221		245.9969	we were in the car	247.1020
223		247.2233	watching uh, the person	248.4823
225		248.6128	/start/ to run	249.1397
227		249.4382	to the apartment.	250.2868
229		250.7613	And um, I think he made it maybe up three steps before they got him.	254.0020
231		254.6548	Um,	255.1677
233		255.5827	and at the time I didn't know what was going on, but [I talked] to my mother about it	258.7663
234	DCB_int_01	257.7172	[Mm.]	257.9083
235	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	258.9715	as I got older.	259.7129
237		260.1605	Um, and we moved after that. We	261.8671
239		262.2448	couldn't live there anymore.	263.0316
241		263.4607	Um,	263.8664
243		264.1182	and about	264.4865
245		265.3398	I wanna say a month later that building actually caught on fire.	267.6060
247		268.0910	Um,	268.4780
249		268.7379	don't remember what it was. I couldn't tell you the name or anything.	271.0041
251		271.8994	After we moved from there	273.1351
253		273.4148	is when we moved to Virginia.	274.5386
255		275.8011	So going back,	276.7943
257		276.9855	uh, still safe environment. Literally, I perceived it as a okay environment until I literally took /RD-NAME-1/ back	282.3840
259		282.5705	a month ago.	283.0974
261		283.6289	Um,	284.0346
263		284.1605	and when I look at it now I see,	285.7319
265		286.1236	you know, the drugs	287.0830
267		287.4187	crackheads,	288.1788
269		288.6311	um,	289.1440
271		289.3259	but	289.7269
273		290.1232	it still feels like home to me.	291.4008
275		291.8625	Like even though we were there, I was on the phone with my dad. He was telling me to get out of southeast.	295.3632
277		295.8388	I didn't feel	296.9346
279		297.5081	worried,	297.8905
281		298.3136	whereas when I take friends back, they're like, oh my gosh. There's black people everywhere. They feel unsafe.	302.6688
283		303.1491	And I don't know if it's cause I grew up there,	304.6633
285		305.1436	I view it as they're black.	306.6031
287		306.7430	I'm black. They're not gonna hurt me.	307.9647
289		308.2398	[Um],	308.5942
290	DCB_int_01	308.2444	[Hm.]	308.5429
291	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	308.6874	unless you c- you know, you're being nosy or something like that.	311.0316
293		311.5120	Um-	311.9316
295		312.5798	I'm sorry. I don't know if I'm answering your [question fully.]	314.3517
296	DCB_int_01	313.7548	[Mm, most] [definitely.]	314.8739
297	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	314.6408	[But] um,	315.1491
298		315.7366	yeah. So,	316.3894
300		317.1250	it was	317.6985
302		318.7663	okay for me	319.4378
304		319.5777	growing up there.	320.2538
306		320.4076	Um, I don't feel like it hindered me.	322.4687
308		323.5586	The only thing that I know hindered me is when we came to Virginia,	325.8248
310		326.2025	me and my brother were behind.	327.6107
312		328.2623	And of course, when we were in DC, we didn't know we were behind. [We were actually advanced] when we were in DC.	331.7595
313	DCB_int_01	330.1601	[/Actually advanced/.]	331.0274
314	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	332.2724	But I actually had to go through a reading program that first year	335.0504
316		335.4514	of being in DC- um, Virginia. Uh, second grade.	337.8388
318		338.3470	Uh, full year. I had to meet with a reading teacher every single day	341.5027
320		342.0109	because I wasn't reading at a second grade reading level.	344.3284
321	DCB_int_01	344.7154	Mm.	344.9952
322	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	344.9532	And um,	345.6480
323		346.0665	I remember the times where the teachers were-	348.0622
325		348.5238	little undertones.	349.4471
327		349.6056	It's cause she's from DC.	350.7201
329		351.1677	She wasn't learning when she was in DC.	352.6878
331		353.2089	And my mom's thinking- You know, I attended a Catholic school, a all girl's Catholic school, and my brother's the one that was in the public school	358.1329
333		358.3183	because they didn't have a boy's Catholic school at the time.	360.0436
335		361.2466	So,	361.6616
337		362.2864	I guess those things have stuck with me.	364.1562
339		364.4535	Um,	364.9151
341		365.8664	knowing that DC treats	367.4891
343		367.9833	children very different than Virginia does. Um, especially little black children.	371.0364
345		371.5306	Um,	371.9456
347		372.6544	and I've learned to not do that to other children, especially to my little cousins that are falling behind. You know, you never	377.5167
349		377.6985	tell a child	378.3560
351		378.6124	that they're falling [behind.]	379.8108
352	DCB_int_01	379.4937	[Mm.]	379.8854
353	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	380.3191	Um,	380.7247
355		381.3635	it made me work that much harder,	382.5899
357		382.8545	of course.	383.4187
359		383.5959	Um, and I- I equate that to me	385.3725
361		386.5335	giving my all	387.2190
363		387.3496	when it came to school work.	388.3614
365		389.1110	Never again will I be labeled as b-	390.9155
367		391.0880	being [behind],	391.8248
368	DCB_int_01	391.4657	[Mm-hm.]	392.0346
369	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	392.0766	so.	392.3610
370	DCB_int_01	393.0605	What's your favorite subject?	394.1796
372		394.8499	Like in [school, what do y-]	395.8058
373	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	395.1716	[<sigh> Hm.]	395.9690
374	DCB_int_01	396.1042	what do you remember like,	396.9388
376		397.3492	being	397.9740
378		398.2165	like, oh I love to go to this [class.]	400.1283
379	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	399.6200	[Well],	399.9557
380		400.1749	it changed [um, as I] grew up. When I was younger actually uh,	403.7222
381	DCB_int_01	400.9758	[<laugh>]	401.7451
382	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	403.8621	math was my favorite subject. Um, for some reason me and my siblings, math has never been a problem. We've all	408.8409
384		409.0741	exceed- uh, excelled in math. Uh, whereas my mother, she cannot stand math.	412.5013
386		412.9011	But um,	413.5027
388		413.7405	always had A's in math, um, all of us.	415.6523
390		416.2538	Uh, but I say about middle school is when I	419.1529
392		419.2928	more so preferred science,	420.8409
394		421.0507	um, [because] the biology	422.6921
395	DCB_int_01	421.6010	[Hm.]	421.8248
396	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	423.1397	of how	423.6340
398		423.7785	we can come	424.4920
400		424.6074	from	425.0037
402		425.4887	a woman has always amazed me, that	427.6709
404		427.9973	for nine months, a child grows inside someone, so	430.4313
406		431.0270	that was amazing to me. And in general, anything coming from life.	434.0486
408		434.6268	Um,	435.0371
410		435.5221	and then off- also that was a time when I begin to question,	438.3233
412		439.1207	did we come from a god?	440.1279
414		440.4403	Did we we come from	441.3309
416		441.5128	basically dinosaurs, like they're telling us in school.	443.3908
418		443.9177	Um, and it's because I had a student in my class that was a atheist,	446.2025
420		446.3657	and I was in middle school, didn't know any better.	447.9930
422		449.0970	My mother's a Catholic, which my father may have told you. She's Catholic. He's Baptist.	452.6221
424		453.2423	We [never]-	453.8298
425	DCB_int_01	453.3962	[He didn't.]	453.8345
426	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	454.0478	Okay. We never attended church. They shouldn't have been married to begin with. Um,	457.1114
428		457.6289	and- Whereas my grandfather was a Mason.	459.9138
430		460.4687	And	461.0084
432		461.7684	of course [you know, that is-]	462.7523
433	DCB_int_01	462.1741	[Y'all had a lot] going on.	463.2466
434	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	463.2746	Yeah, so they never wanted to force religion upon us.	466.2915
436		466.8172	So I	467.6845
438		467.8244	literally to this day have never walked foot in a church to attend church services with my parents	471.9278
440		472.0816	as a whole.	472.4920
442		473.0830	Um, I always went with friends.	474.2441
444		474.4679	They said, you know, if you wanna go, go with friends.	476.4123
446		477.1491	And I'm thankful for that	477.9464
448		478.2297	because I think it led all of us to finding God by ourselves. All four of us believe in God.	482.2071
450		482.9346	And	483.3262
452		483.4708	never once was it- was it forced upon us.	485.1296
454		485.2928	My little brother? Goes to church with his friends.	486.9388
456		487.3212	I went to church with my friends.	488.5335
458		489.0698	Um,	489.4568
460		490.4209	but all of that	491.2602
462		491.8151	coming together	492.6404
464		492.7710	made me really-	493.4844
466		494.2771	Well let me find out where science is coming from,	496.2542
468		496.4535	and about that.	497.0783
470		497.4747	Um, when I went to high school-	499.1533
472		500.3657	Hm. What was it?	501.1444
474		501.6247	I'd say at that point in time,	503.2322
476		503.4887	I think literature	504.4912
478		504.6870	was	505.1393
480		505.6523	my	506.0812
482		506.4589	big thing.	506.9485
484		507.2563	Um, and I think because the school I was at, uh, when we went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School,	510.7523
486		510.8736	they offered more AP classes in literature.	512.9532
487	DCB_int_01	513.2470	[Mm-hm.]	513.7086
488	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	513.4148	[So] I had to read a lot more.	514.6831
489		515.6705	Um,	516.0575
491		516.6544	and I learned of course, at a very young age that	518.8739
493		519.3635	reading	519.7226
495		519.8625	is my key	520.4209
497		520.5468	to going anywhere in life.	521.5586
499		521.9363	Uh, so that came back with me at that point in time.	523.9973
500	DCB_int_01	524.3890	What was [your favorite] book?	525.3076
501	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	524.5429	[And-]	524.7714
502		526.2681	I love the uh, Series of Unfortunate Events,	528.3840
504		528.6124	and I know that	529.1813
506		529.5823	I [shouldn't cause] I'm	530.3983
507	DCB_int_01	529.8714	[Mm?]	530.0346
508	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	530.5475	twenty three now,	531.2050
510		531.3356	but I love the Series of Unfortunate Events. Um, and I started reading that when I was- I think that was the first book that the	536.6035
512		537.0325	lady	537.4008
514		537.5769	um, picked out for me to read and we went through that book, um,	540.2254
516		540.6404	because it helped me- She actually had me reading	542.7061
518		542.8739	books that a older child	543.8252
520		544.0117	should have been reading in middle school	545.0316
522		545.7498	to have me learn the bigger words.	547.2186
523	DCB_int_01	547.6569	[Mm.]	548.0066
524	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	547.7875	[Um],	548.1232
525		548.2678	so yeah, that's my uh, favorite book. And I've love Harry /Pottah/- Harry Potter of course. Um,	551.6572
527		551.7871	Read all the books. I've seen all the movies.	553.3259
528	DCB_int_01	553.5217	I just couldn't-	554.2165
530		554.6175	I couldn't get into it past like,	556.1236
532		556.5281	the second one,	557.3535
534		557.8151	but I need to give it another chance. I [need to go back.]	560.3890
535	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	559.7129	[I think- Did] you watch the movie	561.2050
536		561.3729	before you read it?	562.0164
537	DCB_int_01	562.1877	I did.	562.7146
538	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	562.8499	That's why.	563.3115
540		564.1461	[And I don't-]	564.5751
541	DCB_int_01	564.1461	[But I wasn't] even a fan of the- I mean the first movie was great. The second one, I was like, alright I'm-	567.9324
542	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	568.0816	[Mm-hm.]	568.3661
543	DCB_int_01	568.1329	[This is] not-	568.5899
544	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	568.9058	And I've noticed everyone that I've talked to that has watched the movie first,	571.5637
546		572.0113	cannot read the book. Our little brother,	573.3123
548		573.5128	uh /RD-NAME-2/,	574.0257
549	DCB_int_01	574.5328	[Messed it up?]	574.9991
550	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	574.5701	[uh, watched] the movie first.	575.7078
551		576.0995	Um, and the- the rest of us, we read the books, so.	578.2818
553		578.9625	I would-	579.3589
555		579.7308	And you might have to read- What books have you read? Cause you might have to go and read the third book.	583.5217
556	DCB_int_01	584.1279	No, I only read the first one.	585.2050
557	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	585.2190	Okay.	585.5081
559		585.6200	You might have to	586.4127
561		587.3814	skip the two- first two, and go read the third book.	589.4751
563		589.6103	Cause that was my favorite book,	590.6967
565		591.0465	so.	591.3123
566	DCB_int_01	591.9790	Okay. I'm'a give it a go again. I really am cause I- I wanna get into it.	595.5870
567	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	595.8621	[Yeah.]	596.1465
568	DCB_int_01	595.8621	[I love] reading, but [it didn't] work out for me.	597.8019
569	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	596.7480	[Mm-hm.]	597.0185
570	DCB_int_01	597.9091	[Okay.]	598.2075
571	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	597.9511	[Yeah.]	598.1935
572	DCB_int_01	598.5934	So then you graduated from c- high school.	600.3327
573	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	600.4772	I went to college. Um,	601.8388
575		602.3051	and I wouldn't even necessarily say I had a favorite subject,	604.8219
577		605.0644	um,	605.4607
579		605.6286	but I love political science. It's what I majored in.	607.2466
581		607.4191	Um, I love politics.	608.5382
582	DCB_int_01	608.6455	How- Wait. For- Before you even go there, how did you get	610.6831
584		610.8638	from	611.5120
586		611.7638	your high school, how did you decide to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/?	613.4378
587	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	614.1652	Okay.	614.4403
589		614.9765	Um,	615.4428
591		616.0257	both my parents- I am the first person	617.6192
593		617.7731	in my whole family to go to college.	619.1860
595		619.4984	Um,	619.8201
597		620.0253	literally, not even immediate family, the whole family.	621.9231
599		622.5235	And um,	623.6938
601		624.6497	my mother	625.1720
603		625.3585	had me	625.9274
605		626.0906	at a very young age. Um,	627.4428
607		628.0816	by the time my mom was twenty one, she had four children.	630.0436
609		630.8549	And	631.5450
611		631.7735	I promised that I would never	632.9905
613		633.4102	let her down. Like ever.	634.5199
615		634.7146	Like she literally sacrificed her whole	637.1254
617		637.2839	being to-	637.9927
618	DCB_int_01	638.0066	What number are you?	638.6973
619	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	639.2470	I'm the second child.	639.9837
620	DCB_int_01	639.9126	You se- Okay.	640.4302
621	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	640.4022	Well,	640.6727
622		640.9711	technically I'm the third child. My mom's oldest son /RD-NAME-3/ passed away	644.2818
624		644.5149	[um], when he was three. And I- I couldn't give you the details cause I don't	647.2952
625	DCB_int_01	644.5149	[Okay.]	644.7620
626	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	647.4420	wanna talk about it cause it upsets her.	648.8269
628		649.3025	Um, but I know that he was born	650.7760
630		650.9532	um-	651.3635
632		652.8732	I wanna say that he-	654.2347
634		654.7523	Something happened with oxygen,	655.9693
636		656.1698	and it	656.7294
637	DCB_int_01	656.5382	[Hm.]	656.7480
638	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	657.1770	effected his brain development.	658.5060
640		658.7379	Um, so	659.7824
642		660.7803	she was	661.4378
644		661.7455	sixteen at the time, so they took him from her	664.0210
646		664.4582	cause they felt like she couldn't take care	665.7265
648		665.9456	of him,	666.2814
650		666.4679	and she was still in DC at the time.	667.5543
652		668.0859	And	668.7341
654		669.0884	she said something along the lines of he stopped breathing twice.	672.2161
656		673.0741	Got him	673.4564
658		673.6989	back to breathing, and then the third time he wasn't with her.	676.3148
660		676.4535	He was on the bus somewhere with them,	677.9923
662		678.3420	and he stopped breathing, and they called her and told her that her child had passed.	680.8646
664		682.0397	I don't remember /RD-NAME-3/, but I know that /RD-NAME-2/ and I	684.7430
666		685.1627	were born	685.7502
668		686.4916	while he was still alive, and I [think]	688.2775
669	DCB_int_01	687.8625	[Mm.]	688.2029
670	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	688.6773	he passed when she was pregnant with /RD-NAME-2/.	690.4586
672		690.9248	But I'm not	691.3352
674		691.7315	positive.	692.2724
676		692.6734	Um,	693.1211
678		694.5561	so she had all four of us by the time she was twenty one.	696.3653
680		696.6031	Um, I'm the only girl,	697.6896
682		698.0766	and I	698.9625
684		699.3029	naturally had to take care of	700.6820
686		701.0131	all of my brothers. Like I've always been the more mature one. The one that's,	704.0486
688		704.3051	maybe we shouldn't do that.	705.3076
690		705.8298	Um, but I just promised that I would never- She didn't finish	708.3140
692		708.4865	um,	708.7477
694		708.8922	high school.	709.3352
696		709.8528	And I was like, I would never let her down.	711.4988
698		711.7925	Like I need to be that one to go further, to show her that it wasn't in vain basically.	715.7875
700		716.9346	Um,	717.3029
702		717.9837	wanted to go to law school, still wanna go to law school.	720.0342
704		720.5378	But I'd attended uh,	722.0999
706		722.4496	law program through George Mason	724.2542
708		724.4069	while I was living in Woodbridge.	725.8337
710		726.1415	[Um, because] Caroline County is in Farmville. Not Farmville. Um,	729.0884
711	DCB_int_01	726.2534	[Mm.]	726.4586
712	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	729.6515	<ts>	729.7960
714		730.0292	Caroline County, Virginia, that's down by King's Dominion.	731.8570
716		732.2860	So when I was still up here,	733.3212
718		733.6289	I went through that program.	734.6361
720		735.0931	Um,	735.5128
722		735.9651	all three years,	736.6552
724		737.0364	and basically I'm like, okay, yeah. I definitely still wanna be a lawyer.	739.6802
726		740.2491	So when I was at	741.1351
728		741.4242	/RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School, I went to another	743.0224
730		743.1996	law program for uh,	744.7010
732		745.1487	I wanna say two weeks in Louisiana.	746.9812
733	DCB_int_01	747.3309	Mm-hm.	747.6247
734	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	747.6200	Um, and that was	748.4034
735		748.6027	intense program where we actually did mock	750.8875
737		751.1533	inter- uh, interviews, mock trial, everything.	753.6620
739		754.1935	And I loved it,	754.9431
741		755.1390	loved all the learning.	755.9456
743		756.4399	Um,	756.7896
745		757.5217	so I applied to go to George Mason.	758.9112
747		759.1071	I got into George Mason,	760.2728
749		760.5468	uh, but	761.2742
751		761.8011	the-	762.2254
753		762.9622	/RD-NAME-3/, my girlfriend at the time,	764.4869
755		764.9252	did not get into George Mason.	766.1469
757		766.6074	She got into Virginia State, which I got into Virginia State as well,	769.1766
759		769.6569	and she was interested in /RD-SCHOOL-2/ for some reason. I didn't know why.	772.2262
761		772.8499	So we all take a trip down to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ with two other friends,	775.2373
763		775.3818	and we fall in love	776.3892
765		776.5337	with /RD-SCHOOL-2/'s campus. Like, it's beautiful.	778.2543
767		778.7053	George Mason is a good school,	780.1881
769		780.9248	educational wise, but it's not beautiful.	782.8180
771		783.4055	It's-	783.7832
773		784.0910	You can get lost there,	785.0316
775		785.5306	whereas we went to	786.5098
777		787.0321	/RD-SCHOOL-1/ University, we were greeted as soon as we got there. The black students are running up to us saying, oh my gosh. Like, you're gonna love it here.	793.1487
779		793.7642	They gave us dinner, fed my mom,	795.7506
781		796.0490	fed my little brother, and at the time, /RD-NAME-2/ was about	798.2627
783		798.4632	ten I wanna say.	799.1254
785		799.7222	Let /RD-NAME-2/ go on his own little tour, and I'm like,	802.0863
787		802.3055	this is home. This is family.	803.6565
789		804.2021	And like, we're really big on family,	805.7548
791		805.8947	whereas when I went to George Mason,	807.3356
793		807.9184	I'm at the back of the tour crowd. Like,	809.6845
795		810.1461	she- If I wanted to ask a question, she couldn't hear me,	811.9087
797		812.1139	so.	812.5615
799		813.4894	Whereas when I went into /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and I got in, th- /RD-SCHOOL-2/ only had four thousand students, and that included the grad students as well.	818.2351
801		819.0511	So,	819.4708
803		820.0070	I'm like, this is home for me,	820.9291
805		821.3581	so.	821.5866
807		822.1088	Um,	822.5052
809		823.6989	said forget George Mason.	824.9159
810	DCB_int_01	824.9952	<laugh>	825.9651
811	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	825.9417	Even though I got in, and that's where I literally I wanted to go from sixth grade up until	829.7315
812		829.8668	applying.	830.2864
814		830.6221	But	830.8973
816		831.3309	I haven't regretted it.	832.0816
818		832.2437	I enjoyed /RD-SCHOOL-2/. Um, it- it- it's a PWI, as you probably already know.	835.6243
820		836.2025	Um, we had our	837.3822
822		837.8019	issues with racism,	838.7531
824		839.3861	but	839.7498
826		840.1368	I was always raised to be strong minded, and	842.0486
828		842.6734	don't worry about the fact that	843.9557
830		844.4733	you got racist people	845.3581
832		846.0809	everywhere,	846.4725
834		846.7477	so.	847.0880
836		847.5543	But yeah, um-	848.1559
837	DCB_int_01	848.4916	What do you think was the- I- I'm sorry, just to keep going back to [that one, um, but what do you] think was the-	852.9761
838	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	851.1949	[Oh no, you're fine. You're fine]	852.2244
839	DCB_int_01	854.4729	If you can think about kind of your experiences while at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and you said it was	857.7871
841		858.0715	you know, you had your issues with racism. What do you feel like was that moment that you're like, oh my God. I can't believe that really just happened.	863.3861
842	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	863.4867	<laugh>	863.7218
844		864.3280	We-	864.9808
846		865.3259	we were very close knit. I mean one of those friends that I went with, um- her name was /RD-NAME-2/-	868.8650
848		869.2649	Uh, she went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ with me. Um,	871.6523
850		871.9647	/RD-NAME-3/ actually didn't get in to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, even though we went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ partially for her.	875.6099
852		875.8197	So she went to State for one year.	876.8549
854		877.2932	But	877.6150
856		877.7548	/RD-NAME-2/ went,	878.3890
858		878.5569	uh, /RD-NAME-3/ went, and we were all at the same high school for three years together.	881.8431
860		882.2860	Um, and /RD-NAME-2/ who we met while we were at /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	884.7527
862		885.1864	Um, it's about two o'clock in the morning, and they have this really old restaurant called Macadoos,	889.7782
864		889.9507	and we went to Macadoos. And we're out	891.3729
866		891.6387	freshman year, playing, two o'clock in the morning.	893.4700
868		893.9410	Um, cause it's that freedom that none of us have ever had!	896.2957
869	DCB_int_01	896.0766	[Mm. Mm-hm.]	896.9159
870	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	897.0931	And we're walking back on Main Street.	898.8359
872		899.7695	This truck speeds past us.	901.3771
874		902.0393	We're walking,	902.7760
876		902.9719	literally, across the street. Speeds past us	905.1436
878		905.4654	within-	906.0855
880		906.5751	closer than me and you are right now,	908.0113
882		908.6361	almost hit us, and yells out the window,	910.3987
884		910.6354	niggers.	911.1296
886		912.3233	And I had never	914.0253
888		914.2118	been in fear of my life until that very	916.2495
890		916.4955	point in time. Cause I'm like, if they were to pull over, there's nothing we can do right now to defend ourselves.	921.3402
892		921.7366	We have some pepper spray.	922.9338
894		923.0923	That's what we have.	923.7358
896		924.6637	And /RD-NAME-2/ here with us, that's from the inner city,	927.1724
898		927.5501	so.	928.0397
900		929.5213	We can't defend ourselves right now,	930.9062
901	DCB_int_01	931.0274	[/Wow/.]	931.3305
902	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	931.1114	[so I] guess that was like the,	932.6501
903		933.3029	oh my gosh. Like, I can't believe	935.1856
905		935.6519	that just happened.	936.5098
907		936.9155	[So-]	937.3025
908	DCB_int_01	936.9202	[That it's still] happening in whatever- what- [two thousand] some- two thousand- [not too long ago.]	941.1250
909	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	939.0278	[Yeah.]	939.3869
911		940.4313	[At the time it was] two thousand ten.	941.9829
912	DCB_int_01	942.0575	Yeah.	942.2907
913	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	942.4446	So, and I'm just-	943.7409
915		944.5102	I couldn't fathom that something like that would of really happened, and I'm just like, wow.	947.7871
917		948.1088	Um, went home,	949.3538
919		949.7642	and it wasn't to the point of	950.6734
921		950.8133	tears- Like I didn't have a tear moment until later on, but I-	953.4094
923		953.5773	In regards to my life, in regards to, I can't believe that just happened,	956.8180
925		957.3822	that was that moment	958.2728
927		958.3929	cause I- Like I said, I was in fear of my life, and	960.6031
929		961.9367	like, wow.	962.4496
931		962.7714	So, and all along, you know, we deal with racism while we were at Walmart. Uh, my roommate freshman year was Caucasian,	968.2911
933		968.5848	and everywhere we would go, we would get looks.	970.3894
935		971.4047	Why are you with her? Cause obviously we don't know anyone. We're gonna everywhere together. We're gonna to Walmart together. We're gonna go to dinner together.	976.8230
937		977.5400	Looks.	977.9550
939		978.3466	Dirty looks.	978.9435
941		979.3911	Everywhere,	979.7782
943		980.2911	so.	980.5848
944	DCB_int_01	981.0138	So	981.2656
946		981.5081	going back and I- You may not even think-	983.3768
948		983.6192	<clears throat>	983.8710
950		984.1788	I don't know if you remember cause you were quite young,	985.8434
952		986.2444	but thinking about your time in DC, and actually as you go back with your-	989.3861
954		989.6146	um, when you were going back to visit your grandmother,	991.3492
956		991.9833	that time.	992.6781
958		993.3775	Then when you moved to Virginia,	994.5899
960		994.9431	um, Woodbridge, and then when you went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/,	996.7337
962		997.2233	do you feel like, at different points you saw racism,	999.8252
964		1000.0863	and do you feel like you saw it differently?	1001.7358
965	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1001.8244	Mm-hm.	1002.0902
966	DCB_int_01	1002.2114	And how- how did it kind of manifest itself in each of those environ- well, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, we know but in the other two?	1006.8732
967	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1006.9198	Mkay.	1007.2182
969		1007.3395	Um, and my minor while I was at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was /Writer- Confessional Writing/.	1010.3657
971		1010.4962	[Um], and I wrote a paper about an identity crisis that I had because of	1014.6404
972	DCB_int_01	1010.5289	[Mm.]	1010.7434
973	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1014.8782	where I came from. I went from DC where there's black people everywhere,	1018.1796
975		1018.9711	never had to really worry about my race.	1021.3911
977		1021.6243	Like I- I-	1022.0206
979		1022.4636	I- I- people think I'm joking. Like, we didn't know that we were black	1025.6052
981		1026.2627	until we moved to Virginia.	1027.2839
983		1028.1978	That- [Those] conversations never occurred.	1029.9091
984	DCB_int_01	1028.4589	[Mm.]	1028.6361
985	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1030.1143	There was no reason for them to.	1031.1063
987		1031.5819	Um, and then digging even further,	1033.5543
989		1033.7595	I know I have pretty eyes. I know that I look like I'm biracial. I know this.	1037.0770
991		1037.5213	Um,	1037.8990
993		1038.0249	and you don't have the option to meet my brothers, but	1040.0393
995		1040.7714	we all look like we're siblings. You can tell we're all related, but we all look very different.	1044.1322
997		1044.2524	[And I'm] the one that has hazel eyes,	1045.9311
998	DCB_int_01	1044.3177	[Mm.]	1044.5182
999	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1046.0803	light skin, was even lighter when I was a child.	1048.1832
1001		1048.9433	So moving to Virginia,	1050.2011
1003		1051.4321	second grade,	1052.0943
1005		1052.2481	that very- very same teacher	1053.5771
1007		1055.0028	told me as I'm filling out	1056.4762
1009		1056.6907	my	1057.0917
1011		1057.2689	forms to take my test,	1058.6725
1013		1058.9849	why are you marking	1059.9174
1015		1060.0387	African American?	1060.8500
1017		1061.9074	I'm black.	1062.4016
1019		1062.5275	What do you mean why am I	1063.2363
1021		1063.3529	/barking/ African American?	1064.6818
1023		1064.9895	Well you need to mark other,	1066.3418
1025		1066.4630	or you need to mark Caucasian and Black.	1068.3037
1027		1069.8518	And I'm like, well my mommy says	1072.1972
1029		1072.4024	that I need to mark Black.	1073.4644
1031		1074.6161	Like full fledged argument with this lady	1076.4906
1033		1077.1014	[in second grade.]	1077.9268
1034	DCB_int_01	1077.1061	[And you're eight.]	1077.9268
1035	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1078.1926	In second grade! When I'm about to take a test.	1080.3550
1037		1081.4834	Um,	1081.9357
1039		1082.2015	so	1082.9289
1041		1083.1294	she gets offended, and I'm guessing assuming that my mother is Caucasian since she's about to call my Caucasian mother.	1088.0943
1043		1089.4325	Um,	1089.8895
1045		1090.3791	and I couldn't tell you cause I- I still- I was supposed to aks my mother how that conversation went. I don't know how it went,	1094.8450
1047		1095.1201	but the teacher called her,	1096.0853
1049		1096.6309	and we didn't really talk about it again-	1098.3410
1051		1098.7933	about the race thing.	1099.5767
1053		1099.8798	[It was just] come home,	1100.9662
1054	DCB_int_01	1099.8844	[Mm.]	1100.1968
1055	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1102.9433	you know you're black.	1103.9260
1057		1105.0871	You know you're my child. You know you're beautiful.	1106.8496
1059		1107.0501	That's it.	1107.3672
1061		1107.6936	That was the extent of our conversation.	1109.2790
1063		1109.9773	Fast forwarding	1110.7840
1065		1112.1082	to- Cause that was right when we moved to Virginia,	1114.1599
1066	DCB_int_01	1114.3360	Mm-hm.	1114.6577
1067	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1115.3338	I guess second grade-	1116.6861
1069		1117.0638	Well I don't even remember how it was, but about	1119.1154
1071		1119.8522	ninth grade, I wanna say, is the next time th-	1122.0239
1073		1122.2151	that identity came up in racism.	1123.8285
1075		1124.3927	Um, my cousin /RD-NAME-2/ was over,	1126.2205
1077		1126.4583	and I overheard them talking	1128.4109
1079		1128.6301	about our relatives.	1129.7166
1081		1130.0196	Cause til this time, like, I'm honestly believing that I'm black.	1132.2951
1083		1132.9468	I'm just black, and I'm just lighter than everybody else, and I just have hazel eyes for no reason.	1136.4580
1085		1137.8428	I hear them talking about my mother's	1140.1452
1087		1141.1337	mother's	1141.8564
1089		1142.1782	mother. So my mother's	1143.2087
1091		1143.5025	grandmother,	1143.9081
1092	DCB_int_01	1144.0107	Mm-hm.	1144.3371
1093	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1144.5376	and they're	1145.0121
1095		1145.2079	Caucasian is what I	1146.0519
1097		1146.1965	overhear.	1146.6068
1099		1147.6326	So I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna sit on the steps. Cause if I come upstairs, obviously they're gonna stop talking.	1150.5609
1101		1152.0379	Apparently,	1152.7933
1103		1153.0451	these Caucasian relatives	1154.4673
1105		1154.9476	decide that they're gonna accept that my great grandmother	1158.1079
1107		1158.5602	is getting married to a black man, and she has	1160.2854
1109		1160.4859	biracial children.	1161.2134
1111		1161.8708	So they tell her to get	1162.9246
1113		1163.1147	her	1163.6322
1115		1164.2338	nigger	1164.8772
1117		1165.6839	man and her porch monkeys	1167.2693
1119		1167.8055	off their property.	1168.5563
1121		1169.4224	And that was the extent of the	1170.9239
1123		1171.0824	relations with our Caucasian family.	1172.6818
1125		1173.3859	And	1173.6703
1127		1173.8289	from that point forward,	1174.9386
1129		1175.7255	I guess my family just took upon that we're not Caucasian. We're just gonna identify that we're black.	1179.7123
1131		1180.5982	Furthermore,	1181.3396
1133		1182.8166	I talked to my dad about it.	1183.7818
1135		1184.4533	And I'm like, okay, so what am I?	1185.6517
1137		1186.1692	Cause obviously I am	1187.1997
1139		1187.4084	part Caucasian in there somewhere.	1188.6254
1141		1189.2782	So that's when I sit down with him and find out that we are	1191.3952
1143		1191.7403	Cherokee Indian as well	1192.7941
1145		1192.9701	on his side of the family and on my mother's side of the family.	1195.4881
1147		1196.0196	And I'm like, well y'all have me going on my whole life not knowing what I am. I'm just thinking I'm just lighter than everybody else, and	1201.1523
1149		1202.3321	fine. And I'm like, and people are telling me,	1204.1506
1151		1204.8594	You're biracial. Like, we can see that you're biracial.	1207.1617
1153		1207.4881	And I'm like, no. Like,	1208.5605
1155		1209.1248	which one is it?	1209.6936
1157		1210.4164	Um,	1210.8127
1159		1211.0494	so that- that was really rough for me.	1212.8026
1160	DCB_int_01	1212.8912	Mm.	1213.1384
1161	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1213.1244	And it's- it's still	1214.5885
1162		1214.9336	to this	1215.3859
1164		1215.6330	point in time- And I think, like I said, it's cause when I was younger	1217.9540
1166		1219.3855	we never	1220.0103
1168		1220.1222	talked about	1220.7564
1170		1220.9009	image in my home. Like, of course my father tells me I'm beautiful every day, but never	1224.8446
1172		1225.8331	realizing that I have pretty eyes. It wasn't until I moved to Virginia that it was a constant-	1230.2011
1174		1230.4856	In the course of a week, two, three people, oh you have beautiful eyes. What are you mixed with? What are you?	1234.9293
1176		1235.6556	And it's like, do we really live in a society where we have to do that? It's-	1238.4300
1178		1238.6491	Everything's about race.	1239.6330
1180		1239.8149	Everything's about skin color. Everything's about eye color. Everything's about hair.	1242.5648
1182		1243.9823	Um, next incident	1245.2320
1184		1245.4745	is when uh, vacationing	1246.9992
1186		1247.4271	in North Carolina, cause that's where we typically go to vacation.	1249.8658
1188		1250.4486	Um, there of course, there's racist people everywhere.	1252.3837
1190		1253.0913	So,	1253.7442
1192		1253.9866	having those conversations where	1255.7352
1194		1256.3461	my older brother, who is darker in skin tone,	1259.2277
1196		1259.6416	gets	1260.0519
1198		1260.3177	dirty looks	1261.0265
1200		1261.2456	more so than I do.	1262.1828
1202		1262.6771	Cause I guess they assume that I'm partially mixed with white, so they accept me more than they would accept him.	1266.4389
1204		1267.1384	And that's still a	1267.8937
1206		1268.5186	issue that we have with my brother now. Like, he feels like he's the black sheep of the family	1271.4888
1208		1271.9400	cause he's darker. Like he is	1273.6793
1210		1274.0616	your- about your complexion.	1275.0548
1211	DCB_int_01	1275.2413	Mm.	1275.5211
1212	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1275.5164	And	1276.0107
1213		1276.2019	I'm the lightest out of all of them, but	1277.9260
1215		1278.2338	my two brothers that are	1279.2270
1217		1279.8005	younger	1280.2202
1219		1280.4440	are	1280.7004
1221		1281.0035	like a- in between us basically.	1282.4817
1223		1283.1613	Um, so I guess that would be	1284.5975
1225		1285.4414	the extent of my	1286.2994
1226	DCB_int_01	1286.5932	[Is your mother fair] skinned?	1287.7356
1227	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1286.6072	[race issues.]	1287.3486
1228		1288.8127	No, my mom is about one shade lighter than you. I don't know why I'm so light.	1292.3880
1230		1292.6118	I honestly don't know.	1293.4558
1231	DCB_int_01	1293.5444	Mm.	1293.7076
1232	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1293.6750	Um,	1294.0620
1233	DCB_int_01	1294.3091	[Cause my] mom's really fa- Like, my mom looks white.	1296.3597
1234	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1294.3278	[and-]	1294.5703
1235	DCB_int_01	1296.4809	So,	1296.8726
1236	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1296.9658	Mkay, [and it's- it's cause our skin.]	1298.4486
1237	DCB_int_01	1297.2876	[and I'm- But my dad's like-]	1298.4533
1238		1298.8030	is African, so	1299.9734
1240		1300.1599	it-	1300.3138
1241	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1300.4537	[Okay.]	1300.8034
1242	DCB_int_01	1300.6402	[I] can understand where I but-	1301.8094
1243	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1302.1545	Yeah, and I don't- I don't know.	1303.3342
1245		1303.7352	Um,	1304.1455
1247		1304.6118	I have one other cousin /RD-NAME-3/	1306.0900
1249		1306.2718	who looks just like me.	1307.4049
1251		1308.0426	[We have]	1308.5229
1252	DCB_int_01	1308.0426	[/Because/ you're] fair sk- [Like, fair skin.] Mm-hm.	1310.0570
1253	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1308.9285	[fair skin],	1309.7166
1255		1310.0430	hazel eyes, and I don't- And I guess it's just a mixture of	1312.7847
1256		1312.9153	genes. And that's what I love about black people. Like,	1314.6441
1258		1314.9425	[you don't know what they're gonna come out looking like. I- I- Yeah.]	1317.0641
1259	DCB_int_01	1314.9425	[All different colors. Yeah. I love that.]	1317.1108
1260	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1317.1994	And it- it's amazing. It's beautiful. Um,	1318.8780
1262		1319.3338	our hair, everything. I love it.	1320.5835
1264		1321.0078	Um, and	1321.8331
1266		1322.4486	it's through writing that paper	1323.7542
1268		1323.9454	that I- I really came to resonate with my identity. Cause I- I literally have had identity crisis majority of my life. Like, where do I	1330.4630
1270		1330.9200	fit in?	1331.3711
1272		1331.5856	Um, [being picked] on,	1332.8679
1273	DCB_int_01	1332.0053	[/?/]	1332.4156
1275		1332.8399	Mm.	1333.2363
1276	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1333.9311	and I mean I don't-	1334.8776
1278		1335.0268	I don't have nice hair. My mother,	1336.4817
1280		1336.6169	um,	1336.9992
1282		1337.4317	actually looks Ethiopian.	1338.5229
1284		1339.0404	Her hair is like	1339.9404
1286		1340.2621	jet black,	1340.9056
1288		1341.0035	long, curly	1341.9594
1290		1342.1692	hair.	1342.4723
1292		1342.9946	Um, but we	1343.5530
1294		1343.7628	got my father's hair. We got the brown genes.	1345.7352
1296		1345.8658	Um, so my hair is- It's manageable, but it's not her hair.	1348.7754
1298		1349.4504	But it's	1350.0566
1300		1350.9891	the constant,	1351.8378
1302		1351.9823	what are you mixed with?	1353.0688
1303	DCB_int_01	1353.7636	Mm.	1354.0806
1304	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1354.1040	Where are you- why are you playing with us? You need to be over there playing with them.	1357.6466
1306		1358.2808	So,	1358.7890
1308		1359.8708	and it's-	1360.2252
1310		1360.4525	Well where do I fit in	1361.3758
1312		1361.5017	in this	1361.9074
1314		1362.1312	whole	1362.4622
1316		1363.1430	/mex/ of things- mess of things. Um, and like, I said, it was just weird cause growing up in DC,	1367.5903
1318		1368.3363	we never had reason to	1369.9544
1320		1370.1502	realize what color we were. We never talked about	1372.0900
1322		1372.2905	our race,	1372.7614
1324		1373.0587	so.	1373.3058
1325	DCB_int_01	1373.8561	So, let me go back. Cause you talked about playing, and that-	1376.1502
1327		1376.4953	Because I- Race, we could talk [about all day. Um],	1378.7288
1328	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1377.6377	[<laugh>]	1378.6962
1329	DCB_int_01	1378.9981	cause I think it's just so fascinating- Especially like,	1380.8446
1331		1381.7679	so I'm not from DC. I'm from Georgia,	1383.3392
1332	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1383.6283	[Okay.]	1383.9454
1333	DCB_int_01	1383.6283	<clears throat>	1383.9454
1334		1384.1040	so	1384.4117
1336		1384.6029	race is a- a-	1385.2557
1338		1385.5297	And then I had a bad incident with a police officer yesterday.	1388.0570
1339	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1388.3600	Oh, I'm sorry.	1389.0268
1340	DCB_int_01	1389.0268	Um,	1389.5864
1342		1390.0200	and so it's just like, really on my mind, but I don't want us to focus just [on that.]	1392.8120
1343	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1392.5135	[<laugh>]	1392.8632
1344	DCB_int_01	1392.9658	But	1393.2596
1346		1393.6559	when you talked about	1394.3274
1348		1394.6958	playing, like as kids- So	1396.5330
1350		1396.7241	you and your	1397.3303
1352		1397.6789	two brothers are close in age?	1399.5254
1354		1399.7212	Or [relatively?]	1400.4719
1355	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1399.8798	[Uh, all of us are.]	1400.6212
1356		1400.7890	[/RD-NAME-2/'s] twenty four. I'm twenty three. /RD-NAME-2/'s twenty two.	1403.5401
1357	DCB_int_01	1400.8030	[Oh.]	1401.1061
1358		1403.6462	[Okay.]	1403.9913
1359	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1403.6602	[And /RD-NAME-2/'s] fifteen.	1404.7607
1360		1404.8679	So he's a little	1405.6839
1361	DCB_int_01	1405.8005	[So what did y'all] do- what did y'all do as like, kids? Like, what kind of game- do you [remember like, playing on the] stoop?	1410.5508
1362	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1405.8052	[far off.]	1406.1316
1364		1409.3385	[And that was-]	1410.0333
1365		1410.6534	And that's- Yeah, I was about to um,	1412.3414
1367		1412.4533	go into that uh, when I came back to that. When I went back, like- And I actually almost broke down. They removed the stoops from in front of my grandmother's house. Like, we literally would jump	1420.1413
1369		1420.3977	all the way around	1421.1613
1371		1421.3478	the complex	1422.1125
1373		1422.3037	on the stoops.	1423.0451
1375		1423.2596	Um, and there was this really big playground behind my grandmother's house.	1426.1926
1377		1426.6390	Um, and my father wouldn't let me get out the car,	1428.2011
1379		1428.4249	so I couldn't even go behind to see if the playground was still back there.	1430.9989
1381		1431.4605	Um,	1431.8708
1383		1432.0806	but there was a really big playground, and it had this	1433.7954
1385		1433.9540	big	1434.2338
1387		1434.3736	like arc.	1434.9752
1389		1435.5233	And the arc was- It was monkey bars, but as it came over, it would flip to where you could crawl up this way, and then you eventually were on top of the monkey bars and had to figure out how you were gonna get back down.	1444.2725
1391		1445.4173	Um, we played	1446.0694
1393		1446.1927	back there. Um, we would always walk to the candy lady's house.	1448.7569
1395		1449.4618	Um, and that's- I really miss the candy lady's house. Um,	1452.1795
1396	DCB_int_01	1452.3822	With the penny candy?	1453.2369
1397	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1453.2986	[Mm-hm.]	1453.7171
1398	DCB_int_01	1453.3030	[Mm-hm.]	1453.9506
1399	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1454.3383	Um, and she had these little like, snow cone things. I don't even know what it was. Um, but it's not like the snow cones up here. Like,	1460.2150
1401		1460.3736	I don't know how to explain it.	1461.1182
1403		1461.4750	But you know, uh, bag of candy for a quarter.	1463.7434
1405		1463.8976	Like a full bag of candy for a quarter.	1465.4748
1406	DCB_int_01	1465.8361	[Hm.]	1466.1577
1407	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1465.8493	[Um],	1466.1885
1408		1466.3295	and I really miss that, but uh, we	1467.9729
1410		1468.1271	just went for walks. There's a pool down the street from my grandmother's house.	1471.2061
1412		1471.7083	Um,	1472.1753
1414		1472.9199	riding bikes.	1473.8055
1416		1474.1535	Um, my dad was a-	1475.5017
1418		1477.1532	We had our issues now, but	1478.9551
1420		1479.0873	back at that time, like he was a very	1480.7042
1422		1480.9151	hands on,	1481.7301
1424		1482.5540	outside,	1483.2986
1426		1484.0608	playground or	1485.4794
1428		1485.9112	you know, we're gonna	1486.9730
1430		1488.1134	just	1488.4923
1432		1488.7347	w- walk	1489.3823
1434		1490.0520	and explore	1490.7745
1436		1491.0829	today,	1491.3781
1438		1491.5323	type thing.	1491.9464
1440		1492.4179	Um, but I say like,	1493.3739
1442		1493.5583	if I really think about it, majority of our time was spent	1496.1357
1444		1496.2811	jumping on those stoops.	1497.2459
1446		1497.7790	And I don't know why it entertained us for hours, but we would literally [jump from stoop to stoop. <laugh>]	1502.4265
1447	DCB_int_01	1500.3117	[Cause you were kids, and that's what we do- They] do s-	1502.8406
1448	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1503.2547	[Yup.]	1503.6248
1449	DCB_int_01	1503.2547	[Kids are] the weirdest [little creatures.]	1505.0164
1450	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1504.1315	[Stoops.]	1504.6778
1452		1504.9283	And actually, we would play on the clothing lines, now that I think about it.	1507.8493
1453		1508.0167	[Um],	1508.4705
1454	DCB_int_01	1508.2370	[Mm-hm.]	1508.7216
1455	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1508.7657	the line wasn't there anymore, but the	1510.4531
1457		1510.5412	bar was still there.	1511.4620
1459		1511.8050	Um, and I was very flexible as a child, so I would literally grab on and spin	1515.4398
1461		1515.5631	around	1516.0698
1463		1516.3121	the thing constantly.	1517.3959
1465		1518.0253	Um,	1518.4747
1467		1519.6334	and that's how I know now that things have changed so much to what we're afraid of. Like, my parents would	1523.9945
1469		1524.4218	let us spin around it. Like, not worry that it's concrete under us.	1527.9156
1471		1528.3297	And it's like-	1528.9554
1473		1529.5759	It was- Everything was fine then, you know.	1531.0519
1475		1531.2633	No worry	1531.7392
1477		1531.9110	in the world.	1532.4617
1478	DCB_int_01	1532.9375	And now, everything [is-]	1534.1888
1479	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1534.0698	[Mm-hn.]	1534.4355
1480	DCB_int_01	1534.5979	You can't even walk outside.	1535.7698
1481	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1535.9020	[No.]	1536.3117
1482	DCB_int_01	1535.9328	[Like]	1536.2720
1483		1536.4923	Southeast is-	1537.3515
1485		1537.9462	I mean you probably don't even remember- I don't know if you were aw-	1540.1050
1487		1540.5853	Not that you don't remember, you may just not have been aware because you were eight,	1543.5453
1489		1543.7832	[six.]	1544.2943
1490	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1543.7876	[Mm-hm.]	1544.1445
1491		1544.3780	<laugh>	1544.6908
1492	DCB_int_01	1544.7481	Um, but like turf wars. Like, that's what your dad talked a lot about was the [turf wars.] [You do?]	1549.3426
1493	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1548.1046	[And I do.]	1548.6069
1495		1548.8492	[I do remember.]	1549.4968
1496		1549.7083	Um,	1550.0828
1498		1550.2282	cause my mom is um,	1551.8363
1500		1552.3738	from- What i- It's something with a d,	1553.8711
1502		1554.6069	where's she actually from.	1555.8317
1503	DCB_int_01	1556.3295	In D- Deanwood?	1557.2856
1504	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1557.6072	Yes.	1558.0434
1506		1558.3958	That's where my mother grew up.	1559.4400
1508		1559.9196	And my father's from Woodland.	1561.2061
1510		1561.5277	And there's Berry Farms.	1562.7260
1511	DCB_int_01	1563.3517	That [is very much-]	1564.4223
1512	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1563.4706	[And I r-]	1564.1755
1513		1564.5544	And I do remember cause I- I was a nosy child, very very nosy [child.]	1567.7392
1514	DCB_int_01	1567.4880	[<laugh> That's great.]	1569.2415
1515	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1567.8669	[So I remember them going] back and forth	1569.9156
1516		1570.1799	um, constantly uh, cause	1571.8932
1518		1572.7831	the family is so	1573.9947
1520		1574.1621	dispersed that	1575.0917
1522		1575.4354	when they moved, you know, even though you're from Deanwood,	1577.7874
1524		1578.1707	or-	1578.3646
1526		1578.6730	Whatever, it's- it's Deanwood right?	1579.7215
1527	DCB_int_01	1579.7171	Mm-hm.	1579.9859
1528	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1580.2238	You	1580.9155
1530		1581.2591	moved to Berry Farms, so you resonated with them.	1583.8843
1532		1584.5981	So you know, f- fighting with family, your own family.	1586.8538
1534		1587.5015	So, I- I do remember	1588.8805
1536		1589.2367	constantly you know, getting killed from it, like,	1591.5762
1538		1591.7700	and then my- my Uncle /RD-NAME-2/, my mother's	1593.5323
1540		1594.0081	older brother was actually murdered	1595.5678
1542		1595.7654	in DC.	1596.2280
1544		1596.8624	And it's-	1597.6422
1545	DCB_int_01	1598.4000	Was it a turf thing?	1599.2591
1546	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1599.4618	Mm-hm.	1599.7173
1547	DCB_int_01	1600.6640	Wow.	1600.9547
1548	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1601.3557	Still don't know,	1601.9725
1550		1602.2148	to this day,	1602.6598
1552		1602.8404	who killed him.	1603.3338
1554		1603.4704	Shot seventeen times in cold blood.	1605.2415
1556		1606.8452	Yup.	1607.1052
1557	DCB_int_01	1607.3072	When was this?	1607.9813
1558	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1608.2941	He was eighteen at the time.	1609.6114
1560		1609.8405	Um,	1610.2590
1562		1613.7037	I wanna say	1614.5452
1564		1614.6950	it was about	1615.4352
1566		1616.2590	ninety three or ninety four.	1617.5808
1567	DCB_int_01	1618.2064	Wow.	1618.6425
1569		1618.9950	[Yeah.]	1619.4003
1570	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1619.0032	[Mm.]	1619.4217
1571	DCB_int_01	1620.0341	And it still- They still exist.	1621.5277
1572	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1621.6819	Mm-hm.	1621.9903
1573	DCB_int_01	1622.3031	Um,	1622.8891
1575		1623.7526	so I work at /RD-WORK-4/ too, and th-	1625.1580
1577		1625.4217	there's one /RD-WORK-1/ in Southeast, and so	1627.1180
1579		1627.2501	kids-	1627.5806
1581		1628.4617	A lot of the neighborhood from both	1629.8011
1583		1630.0081	turfs come to the /RD-WORK-1/,	1631.3519
1585		1631.8843	but when they take kids home on this street,	1633.4528
1587		1633.5894	the other kids have to duck down. And when they go on the other street- It's just crazy.	1636.4487
1588	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1636.4355	And my mom was asking /RD-NAME-1/ how that goes. Um, cause /it's on/ Benning Road,	1639.7304
1589		1639.9991	and there's two Benning Roads,	1641.2107
1591		1641.3561	[so] when they said Benning Road, I didn't know which one it was. And /RD-NAME-1/ actually took me past it so I could find out which one it was.	1646.2018
1592	DCB_int_01	1641.6116	[/Hm/.]	1641.8363
1593	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1646.6556	Um, but she asked, you know, how are the kids playing together?	1649.2065
1595		1649.8139	The same /unintelligible/, and it's-	1650.6289
1597		1650.8316	They're too little	1651.3911
1599		1651.7171	to-	1652.0299
1601		1653.2724	Here, they know they can play here, but when they go home, it's, we go our separate ways.	1657.3141
1602	DCB_int_01	1657.5145	Yeah.	1657.7436
1603	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1657.8229	And it's crazy to watch these kids grow up,	1659.4486
1605		1660.0346	and they turn around and kill each other	1661.3210
1606	DCB_int_01	1662.0430	Yup.	1662.2104
1608		1662.6245	[/inaudible/.]	1663.5850
1609	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1662.6421	[because of what they're being] told by someone else.	1664.6688
1610	DCB_int_01	1665.5367	Do you f-	1666.0213
1612		1666.2681	Have you been- Okay.	1667.2549
1614		1668.1487	So I remember coming to DC when I was a-	1670.2590
1616		1670.4793	eleven,	1670.9551
1618		1671.3605	and we went to the monuments and all [the] museums,	1673.8579
1619	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1673.0208	[Mm-hm.]	1673.3116
1620	DCB_int_01	1674.5540	but when it's in your back yard,	1675.9110
1622		1676.2018	do you ever play tourist? Have you ever played tourist?	1679.0303
1624		1679.2675	Or is that like, oh, the-	1680.2544
1626		1680.3910	the monuments and museums, they're right there. I don't need to go to that.	1682.6688
1627	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1683.0124	We- No.	1683.7570
1629		1684.0654	Um,	1684.5148
1631		1684.9333	I actually didn't go	1686.2676
1633		1686.3954	to the monuments, and I may not remember it. I- I seriously doubt that they took us actually,	1690.4355
1635		1690.8628	but	1691.1668
1637		1691.5495	I didn't go	1692.1663
1639		1692.2324	to the monuments until I was in middle school.	1693.8757
1641		1694.1974	When I was in Virginia, we took a trip back	1695.5984
1643		1695.8407	to go	1696.2989
1645		1696.4311	to monuments um, and I've been telling my parents I'm gonna take /RD-NAME-2/.	1699.2766
1647		1699.8625	Um,	1700.3075
1649		1700.4881	cause	1700.9728
1651		1702.5538	in my family, education was import- important, but those	1705.8801
1653		1706.0211	structural things, the materialistic things, weren't important.	1709.2587
1655		1709.7345	They never took us to go see	1711.4131
1657		1711.5894	the Lincoln Memorial,	1712.7789
1659		1712.9419	never took us to walk on the mall. They never took us to stand where Martin Luther King Junior stood,	1717.0563
1661		1717.6995	type things.	1718.3075
1663		1718.7569	So no,	1719.4574
1665		1719.6380	I- I didn't know what any of that stuff was	1721.3254
1667		1721.6508	um, literally until I moved	1723.0827
1669		1723.4880	to Virginia, and I heard	1724.3075
1671		1724.4793	the, you're from DC, and you never-	1726.2637
1673		1726.4575	No, I haven't,	1727.3563
1675		1727.6949	so.	1728.0738
1676	DCB_int_01	1728.1443	[<laugh>]	1730.4573
1677	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1728.7831	[Um, <laugh> sorry.] <laugh>	1730.5366
1678		1730.9551	Um,	1731.3473
1680		1732.4223	but I do realize the beauty in those things, and I love museums.	1734.7699
1682		1734.9417	And	1735.2589
1684		1735.4880	I love	1735.8625
1686		1735.9991	taking walks and love the cherry blossoms and everything.	1737.9156
1688		1738.3870	But no, they never	1739.2367
1690		1739.7390	took us to any of that stuff. Um,	1741.2942
1692		1741.7259	they took us to a couple like, basketball games, like the Wizards and	1744.2857
1694		1744.7703	the um-	1745.3431
1696		1745.9636	<ts>	1746.0826
1698		1746.3205	the Harlem Globe Trotters. And they would always take us to the circus.	1748.7393
1700		1749.3340	That [was fun.]	1749.7129
1701	DCB_int_01	1749.4838	[Hm.]	1749.6997
1702		1750.7130	Did you-	1751.1266
1704		1751.3601	Okay. So going- Did you-	1752.7258
1706		1753.1796	Did you talk to your grandmother a lot?	1754.5718
1707	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1754.8935	Mm-hm.	1755.1975
1708	DCB_int_01	1755.6072	Do you remember her telling you [stories?]	1757.2549
1709	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1756.6816	[<laugh>]	1757.0340
1710		1757.2764	Mm-hm.	1757.5407
1711	DCB_int_01	1757.4922	What are your- some of your [fondest like, memories of her] storytelling?	1759.9859
1712	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1758.1707	[<laugh>]	1759.3074
1714		1759.9330	Um,	1760.3427
1715		1761.0345	and my mom says that she's lying, but my grandmother [swore that she went to a segregated school.]	1765.6907
1716	DCB_int_01	1763.3733	[<laugh>]	1765.3999
1717	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1766.0299	Um,	1766.4617
1719		1767.2019	and that-	1767.8011
1721		1767.9949	Cause she's	1768.4839
1723		1769.2323	a little lighter- She was a little lighter than me actually.	1771.0298
1724	DCB_int_01	1771.2237	Mm.	1771.5277
1725	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1771.6775	Um,	1772.0872
1727		1772.8054	and	1773.2680
1729		1773.6248	they swear that she looked just like me when she was a child, but I don't know.	1776.3910
1731		1776.7787	But	1777.1664
1733		1777.2942	she was picked on obviously.	1779.0521
1735		1779.2503	Um,	1779.6645
1737		1779.8055	cause you know, going to a segregated school,	1781.6112
1739		1781.8843	where should she fit in?	1782.8272
1740	DCB_int_01	1783.3250	[Mm-hm.]	1783.9418
1741	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1783.4308	[Um],	1783.7083
1742		1784.1930	especially in DC where people are typically darker in skin tone in DC.	1787.8667
1744		1788.3866	So, where should she fit in? Um, she said that	1790.8979
1746		1791.0961	she was beat up in school. The teachers would beat the crap out of her.	1794.7479
1748		1795.3911	Um-	1795.8449
1749	DCB_int_01	1796.7437	Because she was lighter?	1797.5323
1750	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1797.8055	<ts>	1797.9332
1752		1798.5016	She said she felt like she was picked on.	1799.6368
1754		1799.9416	Mm-hm.	1800.2456
1755	DCB_int_01	1800.3866	Hm.	1800.5452
1756	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1801.1047	And um-	1801.9595
1758		1803.1182	I'm tryna remember what else	1803.9993
1760		1804.2108	she said.	1804.7174
1762		1805.0076	Um,	1805.4350
1764		1806.5056	but	1806.7347
1766		1806.9726	my grandmother	1808.1048
1768		1808.9507	didn't grow up in DC.	1810.0918
1770		1811.5848	Um,	1811.9989
1772		1812.6333	my grandmother, I wanna say	1814.3692
1774		1815.2724	grew up in North Carolina? I think that's where she met my grandfather,	1818.5628
1776		1818.7082	and then they moved to DC later.	1820.1930
1778		1820.9904	[Um],	1821.3913
1779	DCB_int_01	1820.9992	[I think that's] what your dad said. [/Yeah/.]	1822.4663
1780	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1821.9993	[Yes.]	1822.4619
1781		1822.9069	Um,	1823.4482
1783		1824.4307	and I remember her um-	1826.0652
1785		1826.7349	Cause my grandmother was an alcoholic, so it depend on the day	1829.2814
1787		1829.8271	um,	1830.1090
1789		1830.5981	what she was feeling that day, I guess you could say.	1832.5851
1791		1833.0521	And	1833.6116
1793		1834.4046	sometimes, and you know, it was like, ab- about the growing up hard,	1837.7876
1795		1838.0740	[growing up] a woman,	1839.0829
1796	DCB_int_01	1838.2855	[/Hm/.]	1838.4881
1797	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1839.7173	um, cause my grandmother I guess was born in about	1841.7918
1799		1842.8844	nineteen	1843.5894
1801		1844.0299	thirty or nineteen fortyish?	1845.3120
1803		1845.8011	Um,	1846.2681
1805		1846.5060	so always telling me, you know, you got to be a young lady,	1848.7963
1807		1849.3515	um,	1849.7920
1809		1849.9683	and to this day, I remember, and I tell people all the time. My grandmother drunk beer,	1853.2631
1811		1853.3953	but she would pour	1854.1134
1813		1854.2544	the beer into a glass.	1855.3735
1815		1856.8098	Always drunk out a straw.	1857.7834
1817		1857.9993	Never put her lips on the rim of a cup.	1859.7478
1819		1860.3910	Um, and she would yell at me for it.	1861.6599
1821		1861.8097	Like, you're a young lady.	1862.8494
1823		1863.2459	Why are you doing that? You shouldn't do that.	1864.6734
1825		1865.9230	And I- I guess it confused me because I guess my family grew up in DC, but she didn't grew up in DC. She grew	1871.0230
1827		1871.3401	i- up in the South somewhere.	1872.4266
1828	DCB_int_01	1872.8509	[Mm-hm.]	1873.2053
1829	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1872.9908	Not- not positive. I think it was North Carolina.	1875.1625
1830	DCB_int_01	1875.3257	I think [that's what he said.]	1876.2210
1831	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1875.5869	[/In the South.]	1876.1977
1832		1876.5008	Um,	1876.8598
1834		1877.6292	and I wanna say cause her /lan/-her last name	1879.4617
1836		1879.6144	was uh- her maiden name was /RD-NAME-3/,	1881.2418
1838		1881.4236	so I think she grew up	1882.6686
1840		1882.9391	wherever the /RD-NAME-3/ farm is, I think is where she's from.	1885.4571
1842		1886.2486	But um,	1886.8594
1844		1887.7174	you know, and then	1888.4775
1846		1888.5847	of course, depending on the day, she would tell me- she would remember that her relatives that are older than her were actually slaves.	1895.2235
1848		1896.1841	According to her, I don't know if she was telling the truth, but they were slaves so.	1899.9972
1850		1900.3795	You know, she was that first generation coming out of slavery is what [she was tryna say.]	1903.8161
1851	DCB_int_01	1903.1155	[<laugh>]	1903.8103
1852	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1904.1553	Um,	1904.5703
1854		1904.9480	and it was just hilarious to us, /that/	1906.6313
1856		1906.8272	um-	1907.1956
1858		1907.9043	And	1908.4825
1860		1908.6504	just education was important to her. Like, I- My fondest memories of her are her-	1912.8225
1862		1913.2935	She lived in a three level townhouse, so we would literally go all the way up to the top	1916.3185
1864		1916.4771	and count every single one of those steps	1918.1044
1866		1918.9624	back and forth until we learned how to count.	1920.5618
1868		1920.9721	That's how all of us- like, literally it's how all /bran/ ch- /RD-NAME-1/ children learned how to count	1924.4122
1870		1924.9950	the [steps.]	1925.4800
1871	DCB_int_01	1925.2608	[Mm-hm.]	1925.8577
1872	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1926.1095	Um, and I remember and I aksed /RD-NAME-2/, cause /RD-NAME-2/ was	1928.4911
1874		1928.6310	three when she passed,	1929.6102
1876		1929.7687	and he still remembers	1930.7059
1878		1930.8458	that that's how he learned how to count	1931.9183
1880		1932.1748	steps.	1932.6131
1882		1933.0654	so.	1933.4058
1883	DCB_int_01	1934.6216	Wow.	1934.9527
1885		1935.4889	And she-	1935.7874
1887		1936.0392	Uh-	1936.5101
1889		1936.7666	Did- She just passed a couple years ago- a few years [ago /right/?]	1938.8882
1890	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1938.4545	[Two thousand] and	1939.4151
1891		1939.6611	eleven.	1940.1973
1892	DCB_int_01	1940.3978	Mm-hm.	1940.7522
1893	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1940.7615	Mm-hm.	1941.0273
1894	DCB_int_01	1941.0646	I remember your dad	1941.6941
1896		1941.8666	was saying it was a few years ago.	1943.4473
1898		1943.8530	Um, do you remember the story about	1945.4664
1900		1946.0155	your mom's car? Your mom's brand new car?	1948.3469
1901	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1949.1116	It depends on which one. She had a lot of <laugh> [cars.]	1951.6762
1902	DCB_int_01	1951.0840	[Um],	1951.5363
1903		1952.1647	<ts>	1952.3792
1905		1953.0273	think it was a-	1953.9039
1907		1954.2303	Was it an Escalade or something that got keyed up.	1956.4219
1909		1959.5869	I don't know if you were in the car. It may have been just your dad and your mom.	1962.1235
1910	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1962.6690	Mm-mm.	1963.0934
1912		1963.3953	I remember a-	1964.0621
1914		1964.2299	a car being keyed up.	1965.4610
1916		1965.6242	Um,	1966.1044
1918		1966.9391	I remember	1967.8950
1920		1968.5525	her having a lot of issues with the woman in the neighborhood.	1970.9574
1922		1971.2744	Um, because she was younger,	1972.3516
1924		1972.5987	she had no business being with my father.	1973.9836
1926		1974.1701	Um, I'm pretty sure he probably told you that [too.]	1975.8196
1927	DCB_int_01	1975.6704	[He] didn't, so [I didn't- He didn't-]	1977.1299
1928	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1976.3838	[<laugh>]	1977.0972
1929	DCB_int_01	1977.3211	You know what? He talks- He talked about your mom-	1979.6991
1931		1980.0069	about-	1980.4172
1933		1981.9688	Excuse me, about them meeting, but he didn't talk a lot about-	1984.4029
1934	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1984.6733	And that's- that's debatable too.	1985.9370
1936		1986.4219	Um,	1986.7623
1937	DCB_int_01	1986.7576	[<laugh>]	1988.6216
1938	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	1987.0421	[so according to him, when we were] children, what he would tell us when he was putting us to bed,	1990.8887
1939		1991.3448	he was walking down the street,	1992.5152
1941		1992.6504	and he saw my mother getting off the bus.	1994.2020
1943		1994.6543	And that was the woman he was gonna marry.	1996.1884
1945		1996.7852	So my father was thirty five, and my mother, sixteen.	1999.7042
1947		2000.4025	So, and I tell him all the time, you had no business talking to my mother, but I- I wouldn't be here if you didn't.	2005.0980
1948	DCB_int_01	2005.5818	[<laugh>]	2006.7289
1949	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2005.5958	[But]	2006.0248
1950		2006.9527	apparently in the neighborhood, my father, of course, thirty five, have had numerous girlfriends in the neighborhood,	2012.0294
1952		2012.5097	so I remember her saying you know, she was constantly attacked,	2015.9183
1954		2016.1841	badgered.	2016.7530
1956		2016.8975	She's not from Woodland.	2017.8721
1958		2019.0226	You know? She's from Deanwood.	2020.2024
1959	DCB_int_01	2020.3283	So that's an- Yeah. First of all, you count- you crossing,	2022.6877
1961		2022.9908	not only just neighborhoods, you're crossing /qua-/ quadrants [so- and] wards. So she's ward seven,	2027.2468
1962	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2025.1719	[Mm-hm.]	2025.6661
1963	DCB_int_01	2027.5359	Northeast.	2028.1235
1965		2028.5058	That's ward [eight], Southeast. [That's a] whole lot. [That's a lot] going on [/with that/.]	2032.3422
1966	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2029.4419	[Mm-hm.]	2029.8569
1968		2030.2952	[<laugh>]	2030.6216
1970		2031.1112	[Yes.]	2031.5449
1972		2031.9506	[And she-] she constantly had to deal with that. And I remember that she constantly was calling my cousins coming up. Like I- They- they- <laugh> They were- I tell people my mother and my father are crazy, and they never- Cause they came to Virginia, and they calmed down.	2042.6123
1973		2043.1532	But	2043.4516
1975		2044.3096	they- I remember	2045.2655
1977		2045.3681	her calling my cousin /RD-NAME-2/, my cousin /RD-NAME-1/,	2047.8208
1979		2048.1647	my cousin /RD-NAME-2/. Like, coming to fight people because she was constantly attacked.	2051.8111
1981		2052.3753	Um,	2052.8089
1983		2053.4279	because that's not where she should have been.	2054.8221
1985		2055.3677	So	2055.8526
1987		2056.2070	um,	2056.5800
1989		2057.1443	that- that's what I do remember. I don't remember anyone keying the car up.	2059.6984
1991		2059.8849	But it could have happened. Um,	2061.4563
1993		2061.8853	and what I do remember,	2063.0790
1995		2063.3075	is my mom starting fights with people with golf clubs and what not, getting out the car with my cousin /RD-NAME-2/ fighting people with people cutting them off.	2070.0955
1997		2070.5898	Um,	2070.9441
1999		2071.6051	and that's just the difference in-	2073.1485
2001		2073.4330	in culture I guess you could say, and what's perceived as okay. And like, my mom literally has come all the way down.	2078.8548
2003		2079.2651	Cause I'm like five, six, remembering like sun roof- my cousin /RD-NAME-2/ and the sun roof,	2083.6855
2005		2083.8476	golf club. Like, I can't believe you just did that. Throwing cans and	2086.9018
2006	DCB_int_01	2087.5546	Oh, [wow.]	2088.1468
2007	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2087.7085	[<sigh>] craziness.	2088.7530
2008		2088.8789	Craziness.	2089.4897
2010		2089.7776	That's what I do remember.	2090.6030
2012		2090.7569	[And that's] only okay in DC.	2092.1697
2013	DCB_int_01	2090.7708	[/Huh/.]	2091.0273
2014		2092.3562	So she was- Okay. So,	2093.8344
2016		2094.0629	okay, now I'm getting a whole [different side, which is] great because	2096.5237
2017	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2095.1109	[<laugh>]	2095.8942
2018	DCB_int_01	2096.8967	he kind of left out a lot of details. He's like, yes,	2098.9764
2020		2099.1023	I w- something about he was getting off the bus, and she was getting off the bus,	2101.8208
2022		2102.4538	and he knew- Like, he didn't tell me the age difference,	2104.9671
2024		2105.1536	and he knew that	2105.9929
2026		2106.2307	um,	2106.6737
2028		2107.0467	she was fine, and this was who he was gonna [marry.]	2109.5169
2029	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2108.9900	[<laugh>]	2109.5402
2030	DCB_int_01	2110.2163	Um,	2110.5847
2032		2111.0930	and so now to kind of hear some more,	2113.2566
2033	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2113.1586	Mm-hm.	2113.4757
2034	DCB_int_01	2113.6657	filling in some of the meat	2114.8688
2035	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2115.0833	[Okay.]	2115.5169
2036	DCB_int_01	2115.0926	[behind] it.	2115.7967
2037	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2115.8620	Oh yeah, and I can- I can keep telling you the rest of that [s- that] story. [So],	2119.0794
2038	DCB_int_01	2117.6805	[Oh, okay.]	2118.1701
2040		2118.4172	[Mm-hm.]	2118.7390
2041	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2119.2845	he's from Woodland, still lives with my grandmother. At thirty five years of age, should not be living with my grandmother.	2124.3986
2043		2124.7763	So my mother comes over.	2125.8068
2045		2126.3792	My mother and my grandmother get into it.	2128.3702
2047		2128.9857	Um, I don't remember why they got into it, but they got into it.	2131.8394
2049		2131.9455	Um, but I guess they eventually worked it out cause my mother	2134.1044
2051		2134.2210	and my grandmother-	2135.0044
2053		2135.2049	my- my	2135.7924
2055		2136.0908	paternal grandmother had a great relationship.	2137.6855
2057		2138.2346	But I remember that when my mother went to go take my father to meet her mother,	2141.9929
2059		2143.0048	that was a different story.	2144.0759
2061		2144.4631	According to her, my grandmother pulled out a knife,	2146.5894
2063		2146.7619	and she was gonna stab my father.	2147.9090
2064	DCB_int_01	2148.2400	/Oh, [okay]/.	2148.9441
2065	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2148.4126	[Um, and it's]	2148.9581
2066		2149.1493	age difference.	2149.9933
2067	DCB_int_01	2150.1367	[Yeah.]	2150.5237
2068	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2150.1926	[Um],	2150.5937
2069		2152.1557	why are you,	2152.9811
2071		2153.0650	grown man, talking to my child? basically. Cause my mother was a child, and I can- I know she was a child.	2157.0180
2073		2157.5682	Um,	2157.9133
2075		2159.0790	and they just	2160.0629
2077		2161.0607	apparently- and if I do the math,	2163.2278
2079		2163.4749	I wanna say /RD-NAME-2/ was conceived	2165.1629
2081		2166.5711	the following year.	2167.3172
2083		2167.6238	So	2167.9968
2085		2168.2113	April I think is when they met?	2169.3024
2087		2169.8107	And /RD-NAME-2/ was conceived the	2171.0743
2089		2171.1956	next January-	2171.9696
2091		2172.1095	not January. Uh, /this/	2173.2472
2093		2174.0155	September, October	2174.8967
2095		2175.3397	um,	2175.6195
2097		2175.8293	ish of that year.	2176.6127
2099		2176.9484	So Robert was born	2178.0022
2101		2178.5758	following year over.	2179.4198
2103		2179.9921	So	2180.5190
2105		2181.9832	that- that's what I know from what he told me, from- well	2184.4452
2107		2184.6457	/mixing/ together what my mother [told] me. [Um-]	2186.8268
2108	DCB_int_01	2185.8523	[Mother.]	2186.1647
2110		2186.3698	[Getting both] [pieces, mm-hm.]	2187.6475
2111	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2187.0646	[Yes, but when] I was a child, like the story ended	2189.2702
2112		2189.5639	with the-	2190.0908
2114		2190.4825	and I mean, it's cause we're so little, we don't realize- Well obviously,	2192.9760
2116		2193.2231	something had to happen in between.	2194.6313
2117	DCB_int_01	2194.9251	Right.	2195.2515
2118	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2195.2841	Got off the bus,	2196.1748
2120		2196.3613	the woman he was gonna marry,	2197.5830
2122		2198.4258	story ends! He- he gets his bride	2200.4355
2124		2200.8039	is /[way] it end/. We're fine with that of course,	2202.8043
2125	DCB_int_01	2200.9624	[/Hm/.]	2201.3168
2126	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2203.4151	so.	2203.8161
2127	DCB_int_01	2204.1926	And did y'all live-	2205.0506
2129		2205.3024	As far as you can remember, or what you've been told, did-	2207.4567
2131		2207.6245	did y'all live with y'alls grandmother for awhile?	2209.3579
2132	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2209.3731	Mm-hm. We lived with my grandmother um,	2211.2138
2133	DCB_int_01	2211.3117	For a [long time.]	2212.0625
2134	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2211.5076	[until I was] five	2212.6174
2135	DCB_int_01	2213.0557	[Okay.]	2213.3681
2136	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2213.1629	[Um],	2213.5126
2137		2213.9789	at least.	2214.5525
2139		2214.8089	And then we moved into that apartment I was telling you about.	2216.8734
2140	DCB_int_01	2216.8921	And by then,	2217.8526
2142		2218.2350	it was	2218.6826
2144		2219.0790	three, not- It wasn't- Other- Your	2220.7809
2146		2221.0560	youngest brother hadn't been born yet.	2222.5004
2147	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2224.1697	D- /RD-NAME-2/.	2224.7199
2148	DCB_int_01	2224.8691	/RD-NAME-2/ [hadn't.]	2225.7691
2149	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2225.3308	[Yes], /RD-NAME-2/ was born in Virginia, [in Alexandria], [Virginia.]	2228.0759
2150	DCB_int_01	2227.0514	[Okay.]	2227.4244
2152		2227.8523	[Right.] Okay, [so]	2228.7475
2153	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2228.3885	[Mm-hm.]	2228.7522
2154	DCB_int_01	2228.9014	but the other f-	2229.4936
2156		2229.8107	the others of you are already born, so [it was]	2231.3401
2157	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2231.0743	[All of-	2231.5266
2158	DCB_int_01	2231.4753	[all of the-]	2232.1328
2159	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2231.8530	[All four] of [us.]	2232.6690
2160	DCB_int_01	2232.3706	[It was] the grandkids,	2233.5783
2161		2234.1647	your mom and dad,	2235.1252
2163		2235.5542	your grandma-	2236.2350
2165		2236.4075	who else lived there?	2237.0603
2166	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2237.6945	My	2238.4312
2168		2238.8416	brother- my dad's brothers.	2239.9875
2170		2240.1040	So my uncles, Uncle /RD-NAME-2/,	2241.6381
2172		2241.8993	[Uncle /RD-NAME-2/-]	2242.6743
2173	DCB_int_01	2241.9785	[So y'all had a house] full.	2243.1536
2174	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2243.3774	A house full.	2244.0582
2176		2244.2261	Litera- Cause /uh/, my grandmother lived in a	2245.8208
2178		2246.0434	big house, like a- She lived in the- And it's so weird in DC cause the one that conjoins	2251.0514
2180		2251.4384	the townhouses- the biggest townhouse.	2252.9853
2182		2253.7081	So if I had to explain, like you turn into Reynold's Place,	2256.5385
2184		2257.1493	and then	2257.7275
2186		2258.1087	it	2258.3652
2188		2258.5424	is like a-	2259.2651
2190		2261.3494	like a-	2261.7458
2192		2261.9370	How do I explain? Like, it comes like this.	2263.8010
2194		2264.7102	So it	2265.1672
2195	DCB_int_01	2265.3304	Kind of [like an 'L', 'V', 'L'],	2267.2935
2196	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2265.4936	[h- like a 'L'. Like a- a s- a-]	2267.3028
2197		2267.5033	[Yeah, like a] slanted ['L'.]	2268.9488
2198	DCB_int_01	2267.5126	kind of thing?	2268.1421
2200		2268.5431	[And so the one] that's in [the middle right there-]	2270.2066
2201	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2269.4139	[The one in the middle right] here is the one that my grandmother lived in, so this is the three level one that's the biggest house. And there was	2274.8369
2202		2274.9488	uh- like-	2275.3918
2204		2276.1087	eight or ten rooms in that house.	2277.6428
2206		2278.2449	So, three levels. Yeah, it was a really big house.	2280.4924
2207	DCB_int_01	2280.7769	Oh, okay. So [it didn't] feel cramped. It didn't feel like-	2283.4522
2208	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2281.1487	[And-]	2281.4192
2209		2283.4662	No, it didn't, but when I look at it now, I know we were cramped, [but I didn't-]	2286.6743
2210	DCB_int_01	2286.1101	[Yeah, cause you're] telling me all these people are in this one house.	2288.7947
2211	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2288.7388	Cause I remember that my- my cousins lived there at a point in time. My Uncle /RD-NAME-2/'s	2292.4225
2212		2292.7116	daughter, /RD-NAME-3/	2293.7827
2214		2293.9881	and um,	2294.8227
2216		2295.4336	/RD-NAME-2/ lived with us.	2296.4594
2218		2296.8184	And I remember all of us slept in one bed, one really big bed.	2300.2026
2220		2300.7062	And I remember, <laugh>	2301.8159
2222		2302.1190	because of course, it's time to go to bed, but we're packed like sardines so why are we going to bed? There- We're little.	2306.4217
2224		2306.8321	Um, and every night,	2307.6387
2226		2307.8719	my dad would, go to bed!	2308.8045
2228		2309.0796	Go to bed! and he would come in there and spank all of us.	2310.8188
2230		2311.2187	Um, and I'm saying spank cause it's what- We're in Virginia now, but he would whoop all of us.	2315.0376
2232		2315.4666	Um,	2315.7557
2234		2316.3152	it's time to go to bed.	2317.0100
2236		2317.6290	So,	2318.1140
2238		2318.7341	and I also remember that when we- And my mom's amazed that I remember, cause I remember little things from when I was like	2323.8668
2240		2324.5709	one, two and three,	2325.3636
2242		2325.6807	when it was just me and /RD-NAME-2/.	2326.7765
2243	DCB_int_01	2327.2661	[Hm.]	2327.4666
2244	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2327.3873	[Um], and she's telling me you know, /RD-NAME-3/ was there as well, but he didn't live with us.	2330.4777
2245		2330.8507	And I remember Mom and Dad had this little toddler bed, like tiny tiny toddler bed, and we slept right beside them in the bed.	2336.5150
2247		2337.4522	And I tell her like- And she's like, I can't	2339.1029
2249		2339.2241	believe you remember that. But I remember that we slept [right] beside them	2341.5043
2250	DCB_int_01	2340.8969	[Hm.]	2341.0928
2251	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2341.6290	in my grandmother's house. And we were in the room over from my grandmother.	2344.0724
2253		2345.4852	And then my uncles lived on the third floor	2347.3038
2255		2347.5311	with	2347.8528
2257		2348.3378	their children	2348.8134
2259		2348.9626	basically.	2349.4149
2261		2349.9558	Um, and then throughout the years, interchanging, in and out.	2352.6650
2263		2353.1452	Um,	2353.5462
2265		2353.8762	and when we lived in the-	2355.0372
2267		2355.3356	the high rise, we lived with my mother's	2356.9956
2269		2357.2614	family. My cousin /RD-NAME-1/, and I think my cousin /RD-NAME-2/ may have lived there at one point in time.	2360.6362
2271		2361.4615	Um,	2361.8999
2273		2362.7951	and then we-	2363.4759
2275		2363.7790	we lived with people, I wanna say until	2366.4590
2277		2369.1635	two thousand and- literally, until /RD-NAME-2/ was born, so until two thousand and-	2373.3403
2279		2374.4594	early two thousand, two thousand one, we lived with [people.]	2376.4924
2280	DCB_int_01	2376.3805	[And] what changed?	2377.1965
2281	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2378.4637	I think	2379.1351
2283		2381.4433	we moved to Virginia, and	2383.1639
2285		2383.7736	my um,	2384.6082
2287		2384.9113	mom I guess probably just got tired of living with people.	2387.0842
2289		2387.3827	Um, of course, you know, you're family but	2389.4390
2291		2390.8554	and you can deal with family	2391.8299
2293		2391.9372	for [so long, basically.] Um,	2393.7743
2294	DCB_int_01	2392.1377	[/So long/. Mm, yes.]	2393.4200
2295	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2394.3619	and my father's always wanted his own- Like he grew up in a cramped home, and I don't know if he went into details about	2399.3547
2297		2399.6251	him being in a foster home or anything. Did he tell you [about any of that?] Okay.	2402.1792
2298	DCB_int_01	2401.2746	[Mm-hm.]	2401.6943
2299	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2402.5849	So	2403.1445
2301		2403.6807	you want your own	2404.4128
2303		2404.5620	eventually. Like, [you] constantly having to share ten brothers and sisters. Like, you have to share everything.	2409.5968
2304	DCB_int_01	2405.3593	[Right.]	2405.6531
2305	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2410.0677	And he didn't want us to do that.	2410.9537
2307		2411.5832	So they found a townhouse. So we moved to- We- That's the first house- We lived in a townhouse on /??/ Place.	2416.4035
2309		2416.9024	Um,	2417.3500
2311		2417.6111	and	2418.1754
2313		2418.9774	I mean it was small.	2419.8528
2315		2420.2445	My brothers had to share a room,	2421.3496
2317		2421.6154	but	2422.0677
2319		2422.7252	it was our own, I guess you could say so.	2424.4691
2321		2425.6384	But I don't- I did- I don't really know exactly why, but I'm assuming that's why that they	2429.6018
2323		2430.0215	finally- And I mean my dad had	2431.6663
2325		2432.0767	been making	2432.7621
2327		2433.7413	enough- I guess once, like, there was a point in time- Cause my mom said my dad wasn't making a lot of money. Like he was making minimum wage when he started out as a plumber.	2439.5501
2328	DCB_int_01	2440.0631	[Hm.]	2440.3288
2329	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2440.0770	[And there] was a	2440.5293
2330		2440.7811	point in time when it shifted, and then he started making a lot more money than he was making.	2444.3331
2332		2444.9906	Um,	2445.3776
2334		2445.5315	so he went from making like seven dollars an hour to jumping to about like fourteen, fifteen dollars an hour,	2449.8622
2336		2450.3331	you know, and eventually coming to the point now where he's making over thirty something dollars an hour.	2454.1101
2338		2454.6638	So	2455.2094
2340		2455.5777	I don't know when it shift, but I'm assuming that probably coincided with them being able to	2460.2593
2342		2460.4225	move to Virginia cause Virginia's more expensive than living in DC of course.	2463.2983
2344		2463.6900	Um- Well at that time it was. Now	2465.1355
2346		2465.6018	it's	2465.7277
2348		2465.8863	reverse.	2466.2733
2350		2466.5344	But	2466.7069
2351	DCB_int_01	2467.5171	Right.	2467.7642
2353		2467.9135	[Now], DC, everybody's	2469.2610
2354	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2468.0160	[so.]	2468.2492
2355	DCB_int_01	2469.5082	being pushed out	2470.3242
2357		2470.4827	because it's so expensive.	2471.9002
2358	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2471.8956	Mm-hm.	2472.2873
2359	DCB_int_01	2472.5530	Um,	2473.1126
2361		2473.6850	do you feel like,	2474.6922
2363		2475.4615	kind of on the outside looking in,	2477.2801
2365		2477.6997	um-	2478.2919
2367		2478.7675	continuing to go back. Do you go into DC for any other reason? Like do you just go in, like, to hang out with your friends,	2483.4433
2369		2484.1054	um, or is it- Are you mostly like	2486.1653
2370	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2486.6968	[Um],	2487.1165
2371	DCB_int_01	2486.8740	[Northern] Virginia kind of girl?	2488.0864
2372	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2489.0236	I go- I say in the course of a year, maybe three to four times a year.	2492.4963
2374		2492.8367	Um, and that could be just going to the /waff/,	2494.6599
2376		2495.0469	um,	2495.5179
2378		2495.6904	going to	2496.7069
2380		2497.1266	um,	2497.5462
2382		2497.8808	just	2498.2958
2384		2498.5849	walk around.	2499.3123
2385	DCB_int_01	2499.8626	[Hm.]	2500.0537
2386	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2499.8719	[Uh], walking down, uh, where	2501.7743
2387		2502.0168	um-	2502.3805
2389		2503.6104	What is that road?	2504.3005
2391		2504.9300	Uh, Pennsylvania Avenue down	2506.2729
2393		2506.3895	where the President's house is,	2507.7091
2394	DCB_int_01	2507.9096	Mm.	2508.0868
2395	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2508.0728	down just looking at like, the shops and everything.	2510.0720
2396		2510.6595	Um,	2511.1724
2398		2511.3310	we could go visit a family member. Actually, including visiting family members, probably like seven or eight times over the course of the year.	2516.3611
2399	DCB_int_01	2516.3984	You- So you still have a [lot of] family live in DC.	2517.9185
2400	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2516.7574	[Um]-	2516.9253
2401		2518.2542	Yes, there's only	2519.3733
2403		2519.7277	three family members that actually live in	2521.0333
2405		2522.1792	uh, Virginia now. All of our family still lives in DC.	2524.2915
2406	DCB_int_01	2524.7998	Oh, what [part?] They still live in Southeast?	2526.5064
2407	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2525.0842	[Um-]	2525.2941
2408		2526.6976	Mm-hm.	2527.0240
2410		2527.5125	[Um, my f-] my father's family does.	2529.4755
2411	DCB_int_01	2527.7503	[Mm!]	2528.2212
2412	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2529.6387	Um,	2530.0024
2414		2530.4361	all of his brothers actually. The only brother of his that does not live in Southeast DC anymore is my Uncle /RD-NAME-2/.	2535.3963
2416		2535.9791	Um, and I don't know if he told you, the oldest three have different father.	2539.1546
2417	DCB_int_01	2539.9834	[Mm-hm.]	2540.2492
2418	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2540.1559	[So], Uncle /RD-NAME-2/, Aunt /RD-NAME-2/, and Uncle /RD-NAME-3/, all have different	2543.6718
2419		2543.9562	fathers.	2544.4738
2421		2544.6650	They're /RD-NAME-2/,	2545.2432
2423		2545.8062	and	2546.3798
2425		2546.9859	my Uncle /RD-NAME-2/ and-	2548.3428
2427		2548.5014	Well actually all three of them live in Maryland.	2549.8863
2429		2550.0681	/Now that I think/- all three of them.	2551.0613
2431		2551.3259	Um, and it's cause of the g- age gap. Like there's a twenty year age gap,	2554.3661
2433		2554.9956	so my [dad-]	2555.6671
2434	DCB_int_01	2555.3547	[Oh], between the first three and the	2556.7862
2435		2556.9121	[next set.]	2557.6331
2436	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2557.1208	[The next] set.	2557.9461
2437		2558.1093	Mm-hm.	2558.4544
2439		2558.7435	Um,	2559.1538
2441		2559.3030	so they were able you know- they weren't caught up, you know, in the foster homes.	2562.8561
2443		2563.6943	My grandmother going through I guess like a- seriously, like a mid life crisis, what she went through.	2567.8583
2445		2568.7396	Sorry.	2569.0147
2447		2569.2560	Um, so	2570.0767
2449		2571.2284	they were able to- You know, my Uncle /RD-NAME-2/ joined the military.	2574.0681
2451		2574.3479	My Aunt /RD-NAME-2/,	2575.2432
2453		2576.1932	I wanna say started working for the US postal /sarv-/ service.	2579.5505
2455		2579.7557	And I don't know what my Uncle /RD-NAME-3/ does, and I was actually having a conversation with my parents about it. Like, I don't really remember my Uncle /RD-NAME-3/ growing up	2585.3407
2457		2585.5086	a lot. Like I know he was there,	2586.9028
2459		2587.4705	um, and I saw him because my- my f- father's brother just passed a couple months ago.	2591.2521
2461		2591.9748	Um, and he was at the funeral, and I was talking to /RD-NAME-2/ about it,	2594.3214
2463		2594.5336	and I'm like, I don't-	2595.0652
2465		2596.7998	I	2596.9397
2467		2597.1402	couldn't tell you anything about Uncle /RD-NAME-3/. Like, I honestly don't remember him	2599.9414
2469		2600.0907	growing up.	2600.4730
2470	DCB_int_01	2600.7714	Mm-hm.	2601.0932
2471	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2601.0792	And I told him that my extent of remembering is that he's over seven feet tall.	2604.0401
2472		2604.6277	And it was just a tall uncle.	2605.6209
2474		2605.7969	That's all.	2606.1699
2476		2606.3424	Tall uncle.	2606.8041
2478		2607.3869	So, uh, but he was never really there growing up.	2609.1915
2480		2610.3665	And I don't know if it's cause he felt a- a difference between-	2613.0838
2482		2613.4755	You know, we're big on, we're /RD-NAME-1/.	2614.8464
2484		2615.0143	And like you always hear- it's like, we'll never /defny/ the fact that we're /RD-NAME-1/.	2617.5369
2485	DCB_int_01	2617.8435	Hm.	2618.1513
2486	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2618.1419	He's /RD-NAME-2/.	2618.7341
2487		2619.3776	Um,	2619.8113
2489		2619.9232	[and-]	2620.5107
2490	DCB_int_01	2620.0864	[That changes] it.	2620.7718
2491	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2621.1402	Yeah.	2621.3733
2493		2621.7557	[So I] think	2622.7862
2494	DCB_int_01	2622.1147	[Hm.]	2622.3152
2495	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2622.9028	he felt like they were treated differently	2624.8647
2497		2625.3403	by	2625.8439
2499		2626.0537	my biological	2626.9910
2501		2627.1915	grandfather,	2627.6857
2503		2628.0355	who passed before I was born, so I couldn't tell you anything about the man cause I don't remember him.	2631.0745
2505		2631.7087	But	2632.0164
2507		2632.8091	you know there was that shift	2633.8350
2509		2634.0821	of,	2634.5484
2511		2634.9028	these are /RD-NAME-1/. These are /RD-NAME-2/,	2636.4730
2513		2636.9859	type thing.	2637.4056
2515		2637.8299	Um, but going back to what- what you were saying of course, um,	2640.2360
2517		2640.3712	visiting DC. Um, you know we go over to	2643.1724
2519		2643.6714	one of my um,	2644.5387
2521		2644.8091	cousins lived off of Benning Road, my mother's family.	2647.3504
2522	DCB_int_01	2647.8575	[Hm.]	2648.1233
2523	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2647.8762	[Um],	2648.2539
2524		2649.6201	and then my uncles, you know, they're- they're	2651.3640
2526		2651.6065	in and out of	2652.2873
2528		2652.4458	where they're	2652.8095
2530		2652.9576	living. You know, drugs and everything. And then my father had a- a-	2655.7506
2532		2656.8511	a brother- We believe was a brother, my Uncle um,	2659.3318
2534		2660.4590	/RD-NAME-2/. Uh, we- we didn't know it wasn't his brother.	2662.8278
2536		2663.0936	Um,	2663.4666
2538		2664.3852	[So we would] go to visit	2665.6710
2539	DCB_int_01	2664.4831	[Oh, okay.]	2665.1406
2540	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2665.8202	him	2666.1839
2542		2666.3005	of course, um, until he passed.	2667.6760
2544		2668.1890	But-	2668.5107
2545	DCB_int_01	2669.1029	And that's the one who just passed recently.	2670.4691
2546	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2670.4738	F- no. My Uncle /RD-NAME-2/ just passed [recently. Um-]	2672.8181
2547	DCB_int_01	2671.7969	[Oh, okay. Okay.]	2672.5383
2548		2673.0605	I remember your dad was talking, but I didn't know who.	2674.5154
2550		2674.7019	He didn't say names.	2675.5878
2551	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2675.7091	Oh, okay.	2676.1147
2552	DCB_int_01	2676.1614	Mm-hm.	2676.4738
2553	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2676.4691	Um, but he- he passed some years back.	2678.5336
2554		2678.7994	But um, definitely in and out to see family over the course of the year. Um, I say probably no more than ten times a year,	2684.1606
2555	DCB_int_01	2684.2445	Mm-hm.	2684.5709
2556	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2684.6828	but definitely at least seven,	2685.6807
2558		2685.8392	eight times a year, going to go visit family.	2687.5972
2559	DCB_int_01	2688.2220	If you could-	2688.7349
2561		2689.7363	Do you think you'll ever like, go back? Or you-	2692.0397
2562	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2692.0584	I want to move back to DC.	2693.2568
2564		2693.7044	Um,	2694.1427
2565	DCB_int_01	2694.2546	[Oh really?]	2694.7349
2566	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2694.2593	[I don't-]	2694.7302
2567		2694.9028	Yeah, I don't like living in Virginia. Like, this whole Virginia is for lovers is bull crap.	2698.2915
2568	DCB_int_01	2698.4781	[<laugh>]	2700.4132
2569	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2698.5620	Um, [especially since I'm homosexual.] Like, it's- No. Like,	2702.3518
2570		2702.6455	I'm like- That's where I'm accepted for who I am.	2704.5014
2572		2705.0563	Um,	2705.4386
2574		2706.0774	and it depends on where y- where you're going on where you'll	2708.4963
2576		2708.6315	be	2708.8542
2578		2709.0139	accepted.	2709.5362
2580		2709.7180	Um, and that's part of the identity crisis as well, which I wrote in the paper.	2712.5530
2582		2712.9261	Um, cause I didn't tell my parents until I was in high school,	2715.0978
2584		2715.6434	um, whereas I knew	2716.7345
2586		2717.1682	at a early age.	2717.8396
2588		2718.4551	But um,	2719.1312
2590		2719.7456	I guess, overall um,	2721.4849
2592		2721.9605	I- I-	2722.3661
2594		2723.0516	That- I feel like that's home	2724.1800
2596		2724.2966	even though I was only there until I was eight, actually living there.	2726.6922
2598		2726.9719	We- Even though we moved out- We were still there, and this is	2729.6484
2600		2729.8676	currently how often we go.	2731.0753
2602		2731.5498	We were	2732.0673
2604		2732.7435	in DC every weekend	2733.9092
2606		2734.3895	after we moved. Like, literally co- Like it was like we never moved from there, you know.	2737.4297
2607	DCB_int_01	2737.5043	Right.	2737.7827
2608	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2738.7062	So,	2739.1631
2610		2739.3683	and I- I don't wanna move to Southeast. I wanna move to Northwest, DC.	2742.0914
2612		2742.3992	It's where I would prefer to live at.	2743.6255
2614		2743.7829	Um, there's so much opportunity there, you know.	2745.5828
2616		2746.0024	I like that	2746.6319
2618		2746.8604	in DC you can- There's a store on every corner. Like you don't have to	2749.6384
2620		2749.8062	have a car.	2750.4450
2622		2750.7108	Gas is expensive. You can walk	2751.9838
2624		2752.1237	wherever you have to go.	2752.7905
2625	DCB_int_01	2753.9748	Yeah. Oh, most definitely. [I'm-] I personally don't like public transportation,	2757.2004
2626	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2755.1161	[Mm-hm.]	2755.4332
2627		2757.2471	<laugh>	2757.8672
2628	DCB_int_01	2757.9045	but	2758.1843
2630		2758.3988	it is-	2758.8371
2632		2758.9443	i-	2759.0609
2634		2759.2941	for DC, it makes the most sen- I live in Southern Maryland now, [so.]	2762.9275
2635	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2762.7435	[Mm-hm.]	2763.1678
2636	DCB_int_01	2763.2750	But DC, it makes the most sense. [Um, I] went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, so I know like	2767.1965
2637	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2764.9397	[Mm-hm.]	2765.2894
2638	DCB_int_01	2767.5824	I live- You know, I-	2768.4590
2640		2768.8507	Well I was in the bubble. I was mostly th-	2770.2776
2641	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2770.2682	[<laugh>]	2770.7765
2642	DCB_int_01	2770.5340	[It's a] bubble. Trust, it's a bubble.	2772.0028
2643		2772.7302	And so coming back here as an adult is so different. Like my eyes are open. I'm [just like],	2777.1588
2644	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2776.5993	[Mm-hm.]	2777.0236
2645	DCB_int_01	2777.8863	this is nothing like you see on TV.	2779.5043
2647		2780.6968	And they make it very much like, oh, it's this great-	2783.3873
2649		2783.5365	I mean it's great. Those-	2784.6929
2651		2785.0007	But,	2785.3364
2652	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2785.5264	/That's ??/.	2786.4124
2653	DCB_int_01	2785.5358	[it's real life outside] of	2786.9067
2654	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2787.3077	[Yes.]	2787.9232
2655	DCB_int_01	2787.3170	[these] six streets.	2788.6319
2656	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2788.7252	Mm-hm.	2789.1961
2657	DCB_int_01	2789.5365	And	2790.0681
2658	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2790.6556	Yeah.	2790.8701
2659	DCB_int_01	2790.8701	it just blew my mind.	2791.6348
2660	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2791.8482	And it's interesting talking to people that- You know, that's the nation's capital.	2794.7858
2662		2795.1449	Um,	2795.5598
2664		2795.7091	and then being an investigator now, I get to speak with	2798.8507
2666		2798.9719	you know, twenty people over the course of a week.	2801.0236
2668		2801.1262	And you know, telling them that I'm from DC,	2802.5064
2670		2802.9447	and it's- Once they got into the government, they never expected it to be like that.	2806.2636
2672		2806.4035	You know, cause they're from like	2807.4106
2674		2807.9236	everywhere but	2808.4318
2676		2808.6323	[DC.]	2808.9587
2677	DCB_int_01	2808.7629	[DC.] Mm-hm.	2809.5509
2678	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2809.6943	And it's like, literally, you can go one street over	2812.5480
2680		2812.7951	and be killed.	2813.4573
2682		2814.2873	So- And it- it's-	2815.5183
2684		2816.0300	And I- I always tell /RD-NAME-1/, you know if you're not from there,	2818.4874
2686		2819.3034	don't go where you're not supposed to be going. Know where you're going, and go there and come back.	2822.7015
2688		2823.2097	Cause it's not safe, depending on where you go.	2825.0190
2690		2825.5972	Um, but	2826.2360
2692		2826.7582	I could see myself moving back to Southeast if- /We/ know, once they're done cause	2830.2682
2694		2830.6133	it's gentrification. Like they're- they're cleaning it all out.	2832.9121
2696		2833.2568	Um, I give them maybe ten more years before they	2835.6022
2698		2835.7607	clean it [all up.]	2836.4182
2699	DCB_int_01	2836.1618	[Maybe] not even that long, [/but/ it's coming quickly.]	2838.6284
2700	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2837.1550	[Yeah, and it's- They're taking- Yeah.] They're taking back the nation's capital.	2840.3759
2701		2840.7862	Um, and it- /it's cause/ when my father was a child, you know there was-	2843.6819
2703		2843.8730	care free, no- Like, that was when DC began to boom,	2847.1173
2705		2847.4437	when he was a child.	2848.2923
2706	DCB_int_01	2848.4089	Mm-hm.	2848.8938
2707	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2848.9265	So it was safe. My grandmother	2850.5585
2709		2850.7625	worked at the Treasury, like	2851.8070
2711		2852.4878	everything was fine,	2853.0380
2713		2853.5323	so.	2853.8167
2714	DCB_int_01	2854.5441	And now it's just- it's so-	2856.0176
2716		2856.7438	Can you talk about what you see? Like how gentrification- how you feel like it's affecting-	2860.8379
2718		2861.1783	Do you think it's a good thing, a bad thing?	2862.9070
2719	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2863.4852	[Um-]	2863.8350
2720	DCB_int_01	2863.7091	[Cause] there's a very- You know, /variety of/ opinions.	2865.9799
2721	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2866.0079	And I think it depends, and I guess it- it- Cause I was actually speaking with someone about it, um,	2870.3246
2723		2870.6043	that-	2871.0193
2725		2871.2945	He's from DC as well, but none of his family lives there anymore,	2874.0316
2726	DCB_int_01	2874.1796	Mm.	2874.4827
2727	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2874.5387	whereas me, my family still lives in there, in these ghettos, in these projects.	2878.1011
2729		2878.6700	So it's directly and personally affecting them,	2881.0609
2730	DCB_int_01	2881.6111	Yeah.	2881.9096
2731	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2882.2220	but	2882.5717
2733		2884.3016	on the other side, I know that	2885.9150
2735		2886.3522	in those same projects, are where you have crack	2888.7302
2737		2889.0893	cocaine,	2889.6115
2739		2890.3576	where people are being killed every day.	2892.3999
2741		2893.0516	And I think that it's for the greater,	2895.1499
2743		2895.4763	however, I think in the same process,	2897.5280
2745		2898.5946	realize that these are real people that we're talking about	2900.9447
2747		2901.1686	[that you're-] you're literally	2902.4136
2748	DCB_int_01	2901.1732	[/Yeah/.]	2901.5323
2749	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2902.5581	putting out of their homes, and not giving them somewhere else to go.	2905.0423
2751		2906.2686	It's, we're gonna knock this down on this date.	2908.3203
2753		2909.4301	Be gone.	2909.8637
2754	DCB_int_01	2911.3780	Mm.	2911.5599
2755	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2911.6485	So people turn into the streets,	2913.3830
2757		2913.5975	/turning to life/, and I know my father probably didn't go into great detail. Like, one of my mother's sisters was a prostitute	2919.0007
2759		2919.9286	for over twenty years.	2921.0384
2761		2921.7611	And it's like you- you're pushing people back into that life because people don't know in Virginia there are still prostitutes walking around in DC.	2928.0502
2763		2928.1808	Everywhere.	2928.6331
2765		2929.8723	And it's cause	2930.4551
2767		2931.0986	they- they don't know.	2931.8214
2769		2932.1151	Sh!	2932.4788
2771		2933.1550	Um,	2933.6166
2773		2935.2801	yeah, they- they don't know,	2936.3619
2775		2936.6976	and	2937.1639
2777		2938.4648	you push people to that life, you know. You're pushing people back to the streets, back to selling drugs,	2942.4598
2779		2942.9214	back to selling themselves.	2944.0871
2781		2944.8938	Back to you know, even	2946.3253
2783		2946.8651	selling,	2947.3827
2785		2947.5272	you know, children	2948.4038
2787		2949.0380	you- [you-]	2949.6815
2788	DCB_int_01	2949.2478	[It's become-] Human trafficking [is] ridiculous.	2951.4580
2789	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2950.4742	[Yes.]	2950.8519
2790		2951.7145	Yeah, and it's- that's my worry,	2953.2661
2792		2953.5552	I guess in the- in the long run.	2955.1313
2794		2955.2805	Um, so I guess I'm just- I'm- I'm caught in the middle	2957.5979
2795	DCB_int_01	2957.8824	[Right.]	2958.3860
2796	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2957.8870	[of]	2958.2834
2797		2958.7205	[what you need to do.]	2959.5972
2798	DCB_int_01	2958.8464	[You see the effects] of the [real life] people, but you also see like, it could be a good thing.	2963.5699
2799	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	2960.4458	[Mm-hm.]	2960.7955
2800		2963.5839	And I- And I- Reason why I say it could be a good thing because um, I went to Atlanta, Georgia in um,	2968.3250
2802		2968.9778	college for uh, s- uh, community service for a week.	2971.4153
2804		2971.9982	And they're further along in this gentrification process than DC is,	2974.9964
2806		2975.2995	and I'm seeing the positive that's coming out of it.	2977.0376
2808		2977.6811	Um, and I love black people, and people say I'm racist, but I'm not. But I j- I love my own race. I love what we've come to be	2984.3852
2810		2984.6043	as a society, where we're going, where we can be.	2986.5814
2812		2987.1969	So	2987.5979
2814		2987.7471	literally, the whole time I'm there- I'm there for a week- I see two white people the whole time I'm there.	2990.9541
2816		2991.5975	Black	2991.9752
2818		2992.1618	ran businesses, black owned businesses.	2994.0456
2820		2994.7625	And I see what it could be, what DC could be	2997.3131
2822		2997.6675	once	2998.2830
2824		2998.6187	they're done.	2999.1456
2826		2999.6679	And in my job, you know, seeing black people working in the DEA,	3003.2338
2828		3003.7048	things that I never knew. Like I- Literally seeing so many black people that have done so many positive things for their lives,	3008.9170
2830		3009.5276	and majority of them work in DC.	3011.3088
2832		3012.4501	So I'm like, what could we be in those ten years,	3015.0800
2834		3015.3691	[if we're] able to clean up these projects, and clean them up the right way,	3018.5025
2835	DCB_int_01	3015.4064	[Mm.]	3015.8167
2836	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3018.9863	and give people the right opportunities.	3020.7396
2838		3021.5509	And	3022.1664
2840		3022.8332	so many intelligent people, because m-	3024.5818
2842		3025.1822	And I mean, it may just be me, but my father's	3027.7001
2844		3028.1478	line, you know- We have intelligent people in our family, very very intelligent people.	3031.5972
2846		3032.4272	I was given the opportunity	3033.6861
2848		3034.0172	to go to school	3034.7493
2850		3035.8637	whereas	3036.4932
2852		3036.7112	still, I'm literally still the only one that has went to college and graduated.	3040.2317
2854		3041.2948	And it's- My other families weren't given the opportunity.	3043.7137
2856		3043.9142	You know, that little cousin I was telling you about that I lived with,	3045.8354
2858		3046.0405	I haven't spoken to her in over seven years. I don't know where my little cousin is.	3049.4946
2859	DCB_int_01	3050.0401	Mm.	3050.3106
2860	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3050.5204	Could be on the streets selling herself for all I know.	3052.6980
2862		3052.8565	Like I honestly don't know.	3053.7332
2864		3053.8637	And she's literally one year older than my b- my little brother.	3056.1800
2866		3056.8888	You [know],	3057.1825
2867	DCB_int_01	3056.9541	[/Wow- oh/.]	3057.5556
2868	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3057.3644	[seventeen] year old little girl,	3058.4882
2869		3058.8239	don't know where she is.	3059.6446
2871		3060.1423	Father doesn't know where she is.	3061.1635
2873		3062.9681	Like,	3063.2618
2875		3063.5975	craziness,	3064.2224
2877		3064.3856	so.	3064.8006
2879		3065.7098	And like I say- I- I r-	3066.4921
2881		3066.6179	I- I realize what they're going through. I resonate with a lot of them, cause like I said, that- my mom's sister,	3071.7587
2883		3071.8719	like a-	3072.1668
2885		3072.3428	having serious conversations with her. Like I can't believe that she was a prostitute.	3075.3178
2887		3075.9053	[Um, and it's] cause I- I mainly grew up in Virginia,	3078.2228
2888	DCB_int_01	3075.9939	[/Mm/.]	3076.4182
2889	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3078.6646	I was	3079.2381
2891		3079.4619	tainted by society. Like, I was very secluded. I didn't [know all these things.]	3082.7819
2892	DCB_int_01	3081.9100	[Yeah, you were in the bubble.]	3082.7959
2893		3083.0617	You [were in the bubble.]	3083.8730
2894	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3083.2109	[I- I was in the] [bubble.]	3084.1528
2895	DCB_int_01	3084.0164	[Mm-hm.]	3084.4687
2896	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3084.6692	[Um, and I had-]	3085.4293
2897	DCB_int_01	3084.8185	[That bubble will] get you.	3085.7837
2898	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3086.0168	And I had to be brought back out the bubble once I was old enough [to understand.]	3088.8379
2899	DCB_int_01	3088.1664	[You had to pop] it.	3088.9917
2900	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3089.1736	[Mm-hm.]	3089.5420
2901	DCB_int_01	3089.4114	[Mm-hm.]	3089.8171
2902	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3090.0456	Um, and having those conversations that, you know, and you know, being exposed, you know, she ended up	3093.7794
2904		3094.0265	getting Hepatitis B	3095.0524
2906		3095.4580	because of [the lifestyle] she- life that she lived.	3097.2428
2907	DCB_int_01	3095.8392	[Mm.]	3096.1517
2908	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3097.9189	Drugs,	3098.5344
2910		3098.9121	and it's just	3099.7095
2912		3099.9519	the environment she was in,	3100.7073
2914		3101.1923	so.	3101.4347
2915	DCB_int_01	3101.8206	Yeah, I- The- What I appreciate about your dad, was he was just really- His candor	3105.3318
2917		3105.5696	about like, kind of the drug game, and how	3107.6387
2919		3107.8299	like it just ran rampant through the neighborhood. [Like],	3110.4592
2920	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3110.3199	[Mm-hm.]	3110.6137
2921	DCB_int_01	3111.0753	you know, cause sometimes I know like, we're- It's a tape recorder, but	3113.8404
2923		3114.7159	like,	3115.1215
2925		3115.9189	I think sometimes we have to	3116.8188
2927		3116.9867	talk about the reality. Like, [all of] DC is not Capitol Hill.	3120.3626
2928	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3118.1524	[We do.]	3118.4695
2929	DCB_int_01	3120.7951	[Um- Even Capitol] Hill is not even Capitol Hill in [some cases.]	3123.4157
2930	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3120.8091	[N- <laugh>]	3121.5412
2932		3122.7769	[Mm-hm.]	3123.1452
2933	DCB_int_01	3123.5276	But I think it's important to realize, just because that's where you	3126.0397
2935		3126.3055	were, doesn't mean that's where you are, that's where you have to stay.	3128.6929
2936	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3128.9447	No.	3129.2012
2937	DCB_int_01	3129.2758	And I think that was really-	3130.2084
2939		3130.6560	It was great kind of hearing his story	3132.5305
2941		3132.7812	from the-	3133.5272
2943		3134.1147	being in that lifestyle, and then moving and- and	3136.2584
2945		3136.4602	really, you know, trying to better himself.	3138.1901
2946	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3138.2414	Yeah.	3138.4512
2947	DCB_int_01	3138.6646	And I think that that's what-	3139.7790
2949		3140.3852	those are the kinds of stories that just- I love to hear.	3142.6467
2950	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3142.7400	Yeah,	3142.9125
2952		3143.0477	and people are amazed	3144.2601
2954		3144.4128	that	3144.7065
2956		3145.0329	um- And we were amazed when we- Cause we didn't know when we were younger that my dad	3147.9239
2958		3148.1011	did drugs, was strung out on drugs. I didn't find out I think- And I was always mature, so I found out when I was about ten.	3152.7582
2959	DCB_int_01	3153.0986	Mm-hm.	3153.4250
2960	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3153.3644	Whereas, they couldn't tell my brothers until they were like fifteen, sixteen cause they couldn't handle it! Like, the would have broke down	3158.1147
2961		3158.5297	type thing.	3158.9074
2963		3159.4483	Um,	3159.8493
2965		3160.4089	but you know, realizing that I'm very thankful	3162.3615
2967		3162.6553	that-	3162.9770
2969		3163.5645	Where could we have been	3164.5577
2971		3164.7163	if my father didn't wake up	3166.0732
2973		3166.4462	and realize- Cause I don't know if he told you how long- He was using drugs until	3169.7883
2975		3170.0634	I was about ten,	3170.7023
2977		3171.1126	until- literally until /RD-NAME-2/ was born.	3172.6374
2979		3173.3694	And it was	3173.8824
2981		3174.0351	hidden from us.	3174.7998
2982	DCB_int_01	3175.4246	Mm.	3175.6158
2983	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3175.6065	And I thank them for hiding that from us, you know.	3177.6162
2984		3177.8260	Um,	3178.1664
2986		3178.7493	but	3179.1083
2988		3180.1901	you know, had- had he not woken up	3181.6904
2990		3181.8256	and realized that,	3182.7909
2992		3183.6535	you know- But there's another side to that, that I'm quite sure he didn't go into detail, um, cause I don't even think he realizes.	3188.4645
2994		3189.0660	He had to turn from one drug	3190.3156
2996		3190.6280	to [another hard] drug,	3191.4860
2997	DCB_int_01	3190.8752	[/Right/.]	3191.2062
2998	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3191.7332	[alcohol.]	3192.2041
2999	DCB_int_01	3191.8171	[Mm-hm.]	3192.3906
3000	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3192.8744	My father drinks alcohol every day.	3194.2313
3002		3194.9214	And it's [/inaudible/-]	3195.8447
3003	DCB_int_01	3195.5836	[/RD-NAME-2/] I- I got to get you on my list too sir.	3197.7984
3004	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3198.2915	He's from DC?	3198.9024
3005	DCB_int_01	3199.3454	[He is. He worked] at /RD-WORK-4/ like,	3201.9473
3007		3202.5814	[a long time]	3203.3834
3008	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3202.5861	[/Oh/.]	3203.0337
3009		3203.6632	No one [told me that he's from] DC.	3205.1682
3010	DCB_int_01	3203.9197	[in DC.]	3204.7124
3011	misc	3205.0335	/Talking/ me?	3205.6149
3012	DCB_int_01	3205.7277	Uh-huh.	3206.1008
3013	misc	3206.3059	[/inaudible/]	3206.9820
3014	DCB_int_01	3206.3199	[Aren't you from DC?]	3207.3924
3015	misc	3207.4996	[Yes.]	3207.8027
3016	DCB_int_01	3207.7421	[Like] you were born in DC.	3208.8752
3017	misc	3209.0291	Yes.	3209.3042
3018	DCB_int_01	3209.2762	Mm-hm.	3209.6259
3019		3209.8078	What [neighborhood did you] grow up in?	3210.9210
3020	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3209.9698	[/?/]	3210.3382
3021	misc	3211.2381	Southeast.	3211.8549
3022	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3212.4971	No one told me that. We're from [Southeast.]	3215.1083
3023	misc	3215.0011	[What] part?	3215.4627
3024	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3215.9010	Woodland.	3216.5025
3025	misc	3217.1635	Brookland?	3217.6123
3026	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3217.7510	Woodland.	3218.3805
3027	misc	3218.7349	Woodland? [That's why] you look familiar. My aunt is /RD-NAME-3/. I grew up in Woodland.	3221.7565
3028	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3219.2758	[Mm-hm.]	3219.6115
3029	misc	3222.0024	/RD-ADDRESS-8/.	3223.2987
3030	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3224.0448	Around the corner.	3224.5950
3032		3224.8422	[<laugh>]	3225.4307
3033	DCB_int_01	3224.8515	[See?] [So /RD-NAME-2/, when am- when am-] when am I gonna schedule [you?]	3227.6912
3034	misc	3225.3691	[/inaudible/ that's crazy.]	3226.7819
3035	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3227.4767	[Oh.]	3227.7565
3036		3227.9197	My dad is outside! You may know him.	3229.9888
3037	misc	3230.1287	Who's your dad?	3230.6043
3039		3230.7163	He [looked familiar, he smiled] at me. Like, <clap>	3232.4835
3040	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3231.0054	[/RD-NAME-3/.]	3231.7468
3041	misc	3232.6234	what's up? He was /at the dancing [school/.]	3234.3393
3042	DCB_int_01	3233.8964	[Was he-]	3234.3253
3043	misc	3234.5806	I ain't know, you know, back in the day, you see somebody dancing in front,	3237.6815
3045		3238.0032	old dude, you know about like,	3239.4907
3047		3239.7098	okay, let me- let me go /ahead/.	3240.8603
3048	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3240.8664	<laugh>	3241.7224
3049	misc	3241.7324	Nah, I gotta go sell /ducks/.	3243.1592
3050	DCB_int_01	3243.1825	Alright, go sell [some /ducks/.]	3244.5581
3051	misc	3243.9706	[/Call me/ next] week.	3244.7026
3052		3245.1923	Next week.	3245.8264
3053	DCB_int_01	3246.0304	That's	3246.3149
3055		3246.4734	No, seriously, yeah. Next [week will be good.]	3248.2686
3056	misc	3247.5552	[I'm serious, call me.]	3248.4598
3057		3249.0706	[/Let me know/.]	3249.8727
3058	DCB_int_01	3249.0846	[I-]	3249.3131
3059	misc	3250.9871	But call me.	3251.6026
3061		3251.9838	Cause I- Monday I have a-	3253.0516
3063		3253.2288	a meeting.	3253.6624
3064	DCB_int_01	3253.6111	No, Monday I'll be at a conference.	3255.2105
3065	misc	3255.3644	[Okay.]	3255.7328
3066	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3255.7328	<laugh>	3256.1478
3067	misc	3256.4369	Good talking to you.	3257.1176
3068	DCB_int_01	3257.5839	Okay, good. I'll send you a email.	3258.9164
3069	misc	3259.2987	Alright.	3259.5832
3070	DCB_int_01	3259.6111	Cool.	3259.9236
3072		3260.2127	Alright I'm sorry,	3260.7256
3074		3260.8608	but-	3261.0613
3075	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3261.1313	No, you're [fine.]	3261.8400
3076	DCB_int_01	3261.5602	[I-]	3261.7794
3077	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3261.9706	[<laugh>]	3262.2737
3078	DCB_int_01	3261.9706	[I knew-] only reason I knew he was from DC is because he used to work at /RD-WORK-4/	3265.6811
3079	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3265.7510	Okay.	3266.1054
3080	DCB_int_01	3266.3992	like fifteen, twenty years ago.	3267.7514
3082		3268.0312	Like, in DC, and then he moved, and his family's here, all that.	3270.6553
3084		3270.9537	Anyway,	3271.2754
3086		3271.5599	so,	3271.8303
3088		3271.9376	no, he-	3272.4971
3090		3272.6556	he-	3272.9914
3092		3273.1639	he was-	3273.5369
3094		3273.6628	he went into- he talked about drugs, and he talked about	3276.1248
3096		3276.5900	drinking, but he didn't really go [into-]	3278.7023
3097	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3278.4831	[<sigh>]	3278.7256
3098		3279.0893	Mm-hm. And I- I-	3279.9379
3100		3280.0778	I honestly- And it's- I have these conversations with him	3282.4746
3102		3283.0003	when he's vulnerable to have those conversations.	3285.5183
3103	DCB_int_01	3285.7095	[Mm.]	3285.9333
3104	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3285.8120	[And] I explain to him-	3286.9498
3105		3287.0757	cause, my father had a education, but his education stopped at high school.	3290.2966
3106	DCB_int_01	3290.8048	[Mm-hm.]	3291.2758
3107	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3290.8888	[So] he doesn't	3291.8680
3108		3291.9986	know, you know, the science behind things that I'm explaining to them	3295.0516
3110		3295.7743	where	3296.2919
3112		3297.5789	your body gets used to that something,	3299.7705
3114		3300.1575	and you have to pull that something from somewhere else.	3301.9376
3116		3302.2453	And he's found it in alcohol.	3303.4950
3117	DCB_int_01	3304.0498	[Mm-hm.]	3304.4182
3118	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3304.2690	[So] my father is a alcoholic.	3305.7891
3119		3306.1190	Um,	3306.5433
3121		3306.6786	and he raised us to be honest- it's why you found that he's very honest- was always raised to be very honest about anything. There's no need to hide anything.	3311.6772
3122	DCB_int_01	3311.9663	Yup, [he does] say- in fact he said-	3313.2894
3123	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3312.2263	[Um-]	3312.4594
3124	DCB_int_01	3313.5226	qu- um, [you almost quoted him directly.]	3314.8561
3125	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3313.7743	[<laugh>]	3314.9214
3126		3315.1686	[Mm-hm.]	3315.5649
3127	DCB_int_01	3315.3970	[Yup.]	3315.6022
3128	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3316.0359	And he- he honestly is a alcoholic. Um,	3318.5060
3130		3318.6832	and it's affected our lives	3320.2919
3132		3321.6115	more so here recently in the past five to eight years I wanna say.	3325.5459
3134		3325.8303	Um, it's gotten worse,	3326.9354
3136		3327.0893	and it's cause him and my mother are having problems.	3328.9731
3137	DCB_int_01	3329.3135	[Hm.]	3329.5886
3138	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3329.4767	[Um], and it's because she-	3330.9350
3139		3331.8256	And it's- it's realizing that- and I'm- I'm bringing this up because it- it relates back to where we're from-	3336.0642
3141		3336.2356	that eventually	3337.2614
3143		3337.9515	it- society will get you.	3339.0566
3145		3339.9426	And she had us at a early age, so	3341.9710
3147		3342.3755	/RD-NAME-2/'s about to be sixteen. She's ready to live her life now	3344.6463
3149		3345.4530	cause she didn't get to live it before. And that's what- I don't know what I would do if I was twenty three years old, and I had four babies,	3350.3899
3150	DCB_int_01	3351.1965	Yeah.	3351.4577
3151	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3351.9053	two of 'em in elementary [school already.]	3353.5513
3152	DCB_int_01	3353.0617	[So your mom's] what- forty-five-ish? [Somewhere thereabouts?]	3355.5692
3153	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3354.8744	[Forty seven.]	3355.5412
3154	DCB_int_01	3355.6997	Forty- Mm-hm.	3356.1847
3155	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3356.1800	Forty seven, and she's ready to live her life cause she- she couldn't.	3358.4602
3156		3359.8253	She- she honestly couldn't.	3360.8791
3158		3361.1682	So I'm sorry- I said forty seven. My mom's only forty two, sorry.	3363.3084
3160		3363.5276	She's forty two.	3364.0219
3162		3364.4322	Um,	3364.8239
3164		3365.2342	and she never got to experience prom,	3367.7417
3166		3368.5810	going out with the friends.	3369.8913
3168		3370.1478	She was at home	3370.8006
3170		3370.9358	with three babies.	3371.6725
3172		3372.0875	And during these times when, I don't remember,	3373.6158
3174		3373.7743	when he was out, strung out on drugs.	3375.3784
3176		3376.0079	I- we don't remember.	3376.8239
3178		3377.0151	She never-	3377.5280
3179	DCB_int_01	3378.6739	[She always found a way to make- Mm.]	3380.3899
3180	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3378.6879	[She wasn't that mom that said], your father's doing blah blah blah blah blah while I'm doing-	3382.8006
3181		3382.8985	we [never knew any of that.]	3384.1994
3182	DCB_int_01	3383.1969	[Keeping up the appearances], [yeah.]	3384.8884
3183	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3384.7858	[We] never knew.	3385.3267
3184		3385.6298	Um,	3386.0355
3186		3386.2080	and it's like, you lived your life. Let me go live mine. I got my children	3389.5466
3188		3389.6725	to eighteen.	3390.2647
3190		3390.9070	One, he's sixteen.	3391.9469
3192		3392.7302	He can take care of himself now.	3394.0219
3194		3394.6933	And he can't- my father	3396.1715
3196		3396.6599	was born in the fifties.	3397.8070
3198		3398.3199	He can't-	3398.7209
3200		3398.8841	a woman shouldn't be doing that.	3400.0918
3202		3400.5534	A woman should be at home taking- like, that's why I said my mother's a stay at home mom.	3403.2568
3204		3403.9469	She should be at home taking care of her children,	3405.5136
3206		3405.8633	so they're having that little	3406.8146
3208		3407.2995	crisis right now, and he's resorting	3408.8791
3210		3409.0329	to more and more alcohol.	3410.1008
3212		3411.0566	Because of that,	3411.5649
3214		3411.9379	so.	3412.1944
3215	DCB_int_01	3413.5933	Um,	3414.0969
3217		3414.5713	last thing cause I know- I know you all have some stuff to do, and I appreciate you [taking the time-]	3418.5513
3218	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3417.7328	[Oh, ask all the questions] that you [need to ask. You're fine.]	3419.7227
3219	DCB_int_01	3418.9778	[This is- this] is great.	3420.0596
3220	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3420.1248	[<laugh>]	3420.9723
3221	DCB_int_01	3420.1983	[No, this is-]	3420.8558
3222		3421.2381	And what I love is um,	3423.7374
3224		3424.1431	being able to- it was great talking to your dad first,	3426.5760
3226		3426.9397	um, because he was very much	3428.4085
3228		3429.1732	a lot more general.	3430.4182
3229	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3430.6141	Mm-hm.	3430.9498
3230	DCB_int_01	3430.9638	Um,	3431.2762
3232		3431.4441	he elaborated on certain things, but [other things] he just	3433.8210
3233	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3433.1169	[Mm-hm.]	3433.4200
3234	DCB_int_01	3433.9842	totally skimmed over, and so then	3435.4530
3236		3435.6162	for you- like some things, I- I- I've totally ac- actually forgot he said, and then for you to	3439.1449
3238		3439.3827	fill in all those detail-	3440.4132
3240		3440.9447	Great.	3441.3691
3241	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3441.5089	[<laugh>]	3442.4042
3242	DCB_int_01	3441.7281	[Absolutely wonderful.]	3442.4089
3243		3443.4569	Um,	3444.1283
3245		3445.2754	<ts>	3445.4200
3247		3445.6251	three things. One,	3446.6696
3249		3447.1639	what's your favorite-	3447.8913
3251		3448.0172	this is just crazy, but what's your favorite TV show or book? And why?	3451.1868
3252	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3451.6158	Um,	3451.9982
3254		3452.4878	my favorite book again, is the Series of Unfortunate [Events],	3454.8379
3255	DCB_int_01	3454.4882	[Mm-hm.]	3454.8519
3256	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3455.0430	um,	3455.4674
3258		3455.7005	and it's because it-	3456.4652
3260		3457.4526	at every hook,	3458.3246
3262		3458.9681	uh, the oldest	3459.8260
3264		3460.1058	s-	3460.2084
3266		3460.3576	sibling	3460.8798
3268		3461.0524	found a way	3461.6399
3270		3461.8812	to	3462.2169
3272		3462.3522	turn it around. And I don't know if it's cause I'm- n- as I gotten older, I realize that it resonated a lot with my life.	3466.8565
3273	DCB_int_01	3467.1643	Cause [you had to be] the older [sibling even though you weren't the oldest.]	3469.5878
3274	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3467.3636	[Um],	3467.7040
3276		3468.2169	[I had to be the oldest. Yeah.]	3469.5972
3277	DCB_int_01	3469.7977	[Right.]	3470.0728
3278	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3469.8769	[And I] had to always do what was in the best interest of me and my brothers.	3472.8659
3279		3473.0430	Always. And I still am to this day. Like I- I helped take care of he- his two children that he	3477.1126
3281		3477.3691	made. Like, I literally today was watching his youngest child.	3479.6585
3283		3480.1808	Um,	3480.5445
3285		3481.6485	and	3482.3059
3287		3483.3830	favorite /TVree/ show.	3484.4509
3289		3484.8798	Um,	3485.2482
3291		3485.7984	it depends. Like I like-	3487.0609
3293		3487.3640	like Law and Order type	3488.2640
3295		3488.6323	things, [so Law and] Order SVU is probably my favorite TV [show.]	3491.5513
3296	DCB_int_01	3489.0193	[Mm.]	3489.5416
3298		3491.4021	[It's] one of my [faves.]	3492.3393
3299	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3491.8264	[Honestly.]	3492.3720
3300		3492.7905	Um,	3493.2288
3302		3494.7815	and I like that,	3495.6721
3304		3495.7934	you know, there's no need to hide anything I said before. Like, face the facts	3499.5925
3306		3500.0495	and let's find a way to move forward.	3501.3411
3308		3501.9623	So I like those real life-	3503.6410
3310		3504.1259	things really could happen.	3505.2776
3312		3505.4781	Um, and I like helping people. I love giving back, um, and I actually started volunteering here with the cheerleaders.	3509.8088
3314		3510.1865	Um, I didn't know what the Boys and Girls Club was	3512.3128
3316		3512.7558	um, until I got a little bit older and really realized their mission, until I met /RD-NAME-1/.	3516.6155
3318		3516.9885	Cause /RD-NAME-1/ grew up in a Boys and Girls Club.	3518.4339
3320		3519.1101	And I think it's amazing that you're getting them at this age	3522.1679
3322		3522.7367	before it turns into problems. And then	3524.7138
3324		3524.9843	literally there's a child on the cheerleading squad-	3527.4311
3326		3528.0093	I have five to seven mind you-	3529.3849
3328		3529.6087	that's a bully.	3530.1170
3330		3530.6858	I was bullied.	3531.2780
3331	DCB_int_01	3532.4426	[Hm.]	3532.6664
3332	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3532.4519	[So it's]	3532.8856
3333		3533.4404	counteracting that now,	3534.4476
3335		3534.7787	explaining to her why she needs to stop it now.	3536.7045
3337		3537.3421	Before	3537.8084
3339		3538.1162	you have those incidents where those children are hurting themselves,	3540.8999
3341		3541.1238	killing themselves	3541.7812
3343		3542.0097	because of what you're doing	3542.9283
3345		3543.1241	to them.	3543.4505
3347		3544.1255	So, and you wouldn't believe six years old,	3545.8228
3349		3546.3730	looks like a little angel,	3547.4129
3351		3547.8698	bullying another six year old,	3549.0868
3353		3549.8504	so.	3550.1488
3355		3551.2213	Yeah, but that's- that's probably	3552.4243
3357		3552.5549	my favorite TV show.	3553.4175
3359		3553.6134	Um, and like I said, feel free- if you need to ask more questions, like I understand it's important. It's your dissertation [it's important stuff.]	3558.5269
3360	DCB_int_01	3558.0420	[No, no, no.]	3558.5269
3361		3558.6854	Uh- but this is- [This is great.]	3560.1309
3362	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3559.5248	[<laugh>]	3560.1123
3363	DCB_int_01	3560.2988	Um,	3560.7744
3365		3561.7478	are you familiar with go go?	3563.9720
3366	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3564.6715	Yes, I love go go.	3565.7066
3367	DCB_int_01	3566.1682	[Oh!]	3566.4014
3368	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3566.2009	[That's] my favorite music.	3567.2314
3369	DCB_int_01	3567.4820	Really?	3567.8129
3370	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3567.9996	Mm-hm.	3568.2934
3371	DCB_int_01	3568.3960	Why?	3568.6571
3372	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3568.6431	I love a variety of music. I love country music too,	3570.3684
3373		3570.4989	but I- I [love-]	3571.5388
3374	DCB_int_01	3571.0678	[I'm a fan of] country music as [well.]	3572.4946
3375	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3572.2335	[Yes], but I love-	3573.4179
3376		3573.5520	I love love love go go, and it's cause I love dancing.	3575.6549
3377	DCB_int_01	3577.3895	Why- um, do you have a favorite go go band or a song?	3580.0416
3378	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3580.4472	Um,	3580.8949
3380		3582.2798	let's see.	3582.8067
3382		3584.3454	I don't-	3584.6858
3384		3587.9627	I actually- I like the song Welcome to DC actually. I probably shouldn't like the song /but/ have you /seard/- heard the song Welcome to [DC?]	3593.2679
3385	DCB_int_01	3593.0115	[I have not] but I'm'a make note [to go listen to] it.	3594.9372
3386	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3594.1306	[Okay yes.]	3594.7600
3387		3594.9512	Please [listen to Welcome]	3595.8931
3388	DCB_int_01	3595.2263	[Let me- let me write] that [on my-]	3596.5599
3389	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3596.1309	[to DC.]	3596.7604
3390	DCB_int_01	3596.8350	my [notes.]	3597.5251
3391	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3596.9843	[Um],	3597.3386
3392		3598.2887	very very out there. Um, I [think]	3601.1144
3393	DCB_int_01	3600.8673	[/I'm sorry/.]	3601.3895
3394	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3601.6320	CCB is probably	3602.6299
3396		3602.8863	my [favorite.]	3603.5158
3397	DCB_int_01	3603.1754	[Mm], mm-hm.	3603.8129
3398	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3603.8551	Um,	3604.2747
3400		3604.3913	and it's a v-	3605.1047
3402		3605.4265	variety,	3606.2098
3404		3606.3730	and they're /areays/- always speaking the truth.	3608.0237
3406		3608.7651	In this new go go where they're just taking other songs and turning into go go music- it's like, no.	3612.7414
3408		3613.0771	It's speaking	3614.0284
3410		3614.1403	the truth. I love Chuck Brown.	3615.4692
3412		3615.9343	Um,	3616.2701
3414		3616.9835	and it's- I- I remember	3618.2471
3416		3618.5456	um- and that's why I can't- I can't complain	3620.5553
3418		3620.7698	at	3621.0589
3420		3621.4494	you know, what environment I was exposed to. Cause as I'm older, I'm remembering	3624.9466
3422		3625.2963	the late nights, and that's why my dad's dancing. Like, that's what we used to do all night.	3628.2794
3423	DCB_int_01	3628.6058	Mm-hm.	3628.8669
3424	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3628.8622	Like he would [literally-]	3629.7295
3425	DCB_int_01	3629.1747	[That's what he was just] [saying.]	3630.1585
3426	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3629.9207	[Yeah.] He would	3630.5222
3427		3630.6248	put me on his toes, like his feet,	3632.2708
3429		3632.7138	and we would dance all night.	3633.6837
3431		3633.8924	Literally. And with my uncles as well. That's- that's honestly what we did.	3636.8670
3433		3637.3569	And it's- I love music. Um, music	3639.7338
3435		3640.0789	speaks to the soul.	3641.0161
3437		3641.5430	Like I love the older music. Like you will	3643.4595
3439		3643.5294	l-	3643.6880
3441		3643.9071	catch me listening to all the old school. Like I love	3646.2701
3443		3647.1140	Marvin Gaye.	3647.7902
3445		3647.9161	Um, /RD-NAME-1/ was	3648.6202
3447		3648.7694	actually complaining the other night cause I'm listening to Marvin Gaye.	3651.2675
3449		3651.7012	And I'm like, this is	3652.5358
3451		3652.8203	our music,	3653.5850
3453		3654.0839	honestly.	3654.5409
3455		3655.0258	And I was telling her that they should have signed me up for jazz. Like I loved jazz. I loved /byue/-	3658.2234
3457		3658.3726	blues. Like I love all types of music.	3659.7948
3459		3660.3590	But	3660.6481
3461		3660.8393	yeah.	3661.0212
3463		3661.1424	I think	3661.4222
3465		3662.0144	CCB probably.	3662.8490
3467		3663.5287	[<laugh>]	3663.8131
3468	DCB_int_01	3663.5333	[Did you] um-	3664.3307
3469		3664.8809	Did you have any experience or do you have any experience from mumbo sauce?	3667.9677
3470	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3668.7045	I love Mumbo Sauce, too.	3669.6417
3472		3670.1628	[<laugh>]	3670.5731
3473	DCB_int_01	3670.3540	[Why?]	3670.7410
3474	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3671.5477	Um, I think the same thing, uh, speaking	3674.1543
3476		3674.3687	the truth. Um,	3675.3619
3478		3676.8343	and I love Rare Essence as well.	3678.0979
3480		3678.3777	Um,	3678.8533
3482		3679.5714	but I'm tryna think what's that song that Mumbo- I think it's called	3682.7224
3484		3682.8622	Anthem or something like that. I can't remember what the name of the song is that Mumbo Sauce sings.	3686.7371
3486		3687.3713	Um-	3687.8129
3487	DCB_int_01	3688.2467	Oh, you're talking about the group.	3689.1840
3489		3690.0653	[I was talking about the]	3690.8207
3490	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3690.0699	[Oh, you're talking about the-	3690.8766
3491	DCB_int_01	3691.0585	food.	3691.4688
3492	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3691.6553	[Oh yes. I love mumbo sauce] too. [Yes, I love-] And /RD-NAME-1/ doesn't-	3695.3332
3493	DCB_int_01	3691.7299	[But the group is great too.]	3693.4412
3495		3693.7338	[<laugh>]	3694.3820
3496	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3695.4358	<sigh>	3695.7902
3498		3695.9813	Told her- I said, you don't what mumbo sauce- You don't know what fried chicken is til you go to DC.	3699.2967
3500		3699.7665	Um-	3700.0882
3501	DCB_int_01	3700.0882	Where- where do you get your- your f-	3701.5943
3503		3701.7482	your best fried- your chicken wings and mumbo sau- [Where do you get] yours?	3704.8117
3504	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3703.9025	[And what]	3704.3734
3506		3704.7931	street is that? Um,	3706.1208
3507		3706.8436	and then it's this- cause I was so young that I could drive you there, but I don't remember the name of the street cause I was too little.	3711.6604
3509		3712.0742	But basically, where we would go to Reynold's Place	3714.7181
3511		3715.4082	is	3715.7859
3513		3716.1356	coming down that hill.	3717.2967
3515		3717.5333	And I don't know- Do you know where Reynold's Place is?	3718.9369
3516	DCB_int_01	3719.2213	I think-	3719.6736
3518		3720.4103	So you're off of- I think I do.	3722.6019
3519	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3723.8131	Cause let me- let me describe to you what's in that area cause maybe you'll remember it from there. This	3727.7626
3521		3727.8652	carry out that we went to, right behind it was like a- a type of Best Way type store. It was like a grocery store.	3733.3009
3523		3734.0097	Um,	3734.4900
3525		3734.6578	so you came- The carry out was right here and to the left, there was like a long	3738.9466
3527		3739.3336	driveway that she went down to the	3740.8770
3529		3741.0682	carry out- I mean the uh, grocery store.	3742.5172
3531		3742.9229	And to the left of that was some other restaurants.	3744.9046
3532	DCB_int_01	3745.0631	But up on the hill, are there like two big apartment- Like you [go into a set] of apartments [on one side] and there's [another-]	3749.7622
3533	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3747.5800	[Yes.]	3748.1348
3535		3748.7130	[Yes.]	3749.0814
3537		3749.4078	[Mm-hm.]	3749.7575
3538	DCB_int_01	3749.8648	I think I know where you're talking about.	3750.8626
3539	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3750.8720	Okay. And that's the carry out that we always went to. And we went to this other carry out, where the- the lady was killed actually,	3756.3777
3541		3756.4849	where we went to go get uh, fish sandwiches.	3758.1962
3543		3758.4154	I don't remember what it's called,	3758.9982
3545		3759.7058	[but-]	3759.8877
3546	DCB_int_01	3759.8877	Okay, well	3760.3913
3548		3760.5405	s-	3760.6757
3550		3760.7876	[Um,] when was the last time you had some mumbo sauce?	3762.9419
3551	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3760.8016	[Um-]	3761.1420
3552		3763.5621	I actually had mumbo sauce when I took /RD-NAME-1/ to DC	3765.4401
3554		3765.7711	um,	3766.1955
3555	DCB_int_01	3766.3353	Hm.	3766.4846
3556	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3766.6524	about a month ago.	3767.2959
3558		3767.5524	Um,	3767.9207
3560		3768.1539	and people from here don't like it for some reason. Say, I don't like sweet chicken, and it tastes funny, and no-	3772.5234
3562		3772.6944	Mm.	3772.9555
3564		3773.0674	They don't know what mumbo sauce is. Um,	3774.3730
3566		3774.8953	and the	3775.6227
3568		3775.8372	Top China out here has mumbo sauce, but it doesn't taste like the Mumbo sauce in DC.	3779.4078
3569	DCB_int_01	3779.8788	Is- okay. So now, let me ask you	3781.7066
3571		3782.0703	cause I've gotten	3782.6672
3573		3782.8945	a variety of	3783.7851
3575		3784.2701	answers.	3784.7410
3577		3785.1700	Now the carry out, is that different from like the Chinese	3788.0796
3579		3788.3548	restaurant?	3788.8723
3581		3789.2909	Or is that the same thing for you?	3790.5871
3582	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3791.2819	Like if I- when I equate the word carry out?	3793.4408
3583	DCB_int_01	3793.4362	Mm-hm.	3793.7532
3584	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3795.8970	And I say, no. It's different	3797.2959
3586		3797.6876	because of being in Virginia.	3798.8580
3588		3799.1937	The [Chinese] restaurant here- Chinese	3801.5625
3589	DCB_int_01	3799.2963	[Okay, so-]	3799.7532
3590	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3801.7571	here is	3802.5638
3592		3802.8622	strict Chinese food, and they sell	3804.8486
3594		3805.6367	fried chicken too.	3806.3314
3596		3807.0064	But the carry out in DC, you know, you had your- your fish sandwiches, your uh, fried chicken, your soul food, your collard greens.	3814.1768
3598		3814.6990	That's what was at our carry out.	3816.0933
3600		3816.5922	Um,	3816.9699
3602		3817.1144	and if- I think they sold tuna salad as well actually at that [carry out.]	3820.3587
3603	DCB_int_01	3819.9670	[<laugh>]	3820.3913
3604	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3820.7597	I (laughing) don't remember.	3821.7902
3606		3822.1818	Um,	3822.6015
3608		3822.7740	and then you know your french fries. And as a child, I didn't like french fries for some crazy reason, so I never ate the french fries.	3827.0488
3610		3827.5197	[Um-]	3827.9301
3611	DCB_int_01	3827.6363	[Mm.]	3827.9254
3612	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3828.4570	But I've noticed in DC too, you know, they have like, the crinkly	3830.7977
3614		3830.9236	french [fries.] Um, and out here they have the straight	3832.9695
3615	DCB_int_01	3831.1463	[Mm-hm.]	3831.5939
3616	DCB_se2_ag2_f_02	3833.1513	like	3833.4544
3618		3833.6596	shoe	3833.9767
3620		3834.3637	french fries. But I never	3835.5197
3622		3835.6134	liked them. I still don't like them to this day.	3837.0169
3624		3837.4599	Um,	3837.8830
3626		3838.5405	but you know, you add your hot sauce and your ketchup and all that stuff, but	3841.1611
3628		3841.8325	yeah.	3841.9817