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1DCB_int_010.5696So if you could say your name,1.7575
3 1.9610your age, and where you're from.3.1510 
4DCB_se2_ag3_f_013.1889Okay,3.5792
6 3.8829/RD-NAME-5/ I'm thirty-four,5.6635 
8 6.6430in a week.7.1269 
10 7.5473And I'm from Seat Pleasant, Maryland.9.0101 
11DCB_int_019.1288And happy early birthday.10.6369
12DCB_se2_ag3_f_0110.6469Thank you.11.2536
13DCB_int_0111.2809Um, okay so we were just talking about Seat Pleasant so we're gonna back up again.15.1822
14DCB_se2_ag3_f_0115.1922Okay.15.5492
15DCB_int_0115.5993Um, so tell me about17.1207
17 17.2809your neighborhood in Seat Pleasant.18.6697 
18DCB_se2_ag3_f_0118.8165Okay, my neighborhood is actually called /Booger-/20.6984
20 20.8652Booker T21.4925 
22 22.0063homes development. And, um, my grandmother and grandfather moved there25.6841 
24 25.9310from Virginia in nineteen sixty-three to start their family.28.8521 
26 29.4010Um, they had five children of which my mother is the second oldest,32.8118 
28 33.2356and nine grand children,34.3333 
30 34.5001of which I'm the oldest.35.5011 
31DCB_int_0136.1225And- um, and you were talking about how your family's a community so can you- I'm sorry, the recorder was messed up, can you tell me about that again?42.7565
32DCB_se2_ag3_f_0142.8332Okay.43.1168
34 43.5272Yeah, the- the- the neighborhood is just like one big family.46.7170 
36 47.0974wherein everyone was kind of interactive with each other as far as child rearing.51.4124 
38 51.7527When it goes back to like, it takes a village, it really was a village because,55.0501 
40 55.4839you know, if you saw your neighbor trash out, you would take their trashcan around back for them. Or59.9749 
42 60.3361if you saw a neighbor, you know, bringing groceries from the car, you would- you would help that person.64.2341 
44 64.7003And it was just like, almost second nature that66.8799 
46 67.1969we did those things for each other.68.7556 
48 68.9720Um,69.4102 
50 69.8695so growing up in that neighborhood taught me a sense of family72.5762 
52 72.9000and community.73.6778 
54 74.0911We have very very strong roots.75.7394 
55DCB_int_0176.0931And so your mom lived in that house and then she said she met your [dad.]80.8111
56DCB_se2_ag3_f_0180.5549[She met] my dad in the Air Force.81.9496
57 82.3733And then we moved to an apartment complex that was maybe like five blocks85.7374
59 86.1412from the house that she originally grew up in, and we stayed there for a while.89.6111 
61 89.9215Then they separated and we moved back into our family home.92.7518 
63 93.1922And I stayed there until94.6670 
65 95.0740I was eighteen and graduated from high school.96.8199 
66DCB_int_0197.2403Okay,97.5596
68 97.7441so let me- Since you mentioned high school, we're gonna go back to childhood but I wanna talk about high school for a minute.102.0750 
69DCB_se2_ag3_f_01102.1259Okay.102.4350
70DCB_int_01102.6597Um, what high school did you go to?104.0177
71DCB_se2_ag3_f_01104.0211I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/.105.1487
72DCB_int_01105.5859And I know in DC and the DC area, high- like, your high school is a big deal.109.8094
73DCB_se2_ag3_f_01109.8094Oh yeah.110.2520
74DCB_int_01110.2813So,110.6216
76 110.7951first of all, tell me about112.1869 
78 112.4634why-113.1252 
80 113.5011first of all tell me about why high school is such a big deal in this area [and then] tell me about your high school and like118.3200 
81DCB_se2_ag3_f_01116.3981[Okay.]116.7217
82DCB_int_01118.5602what it's known for.119.4687
83DCB_se2_ag3_f_01119.4944Okay,119.8195
85 120.1826um, high school kind of defines you. And certain high schools have certain reputations. Like124.5702 
87 124.9272Largo was a high school in Maryland that was the fashion school.127.8309 
89 128.1612I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ that was more of the- like a academic school.131.2809 
91 131.7814Um, so just depending on your neighborhood, you know, high schools are just- just- it's a huge thing. It's like almost137.2575 
93 137.6479your identifier like, I went to so and so. And it c-139.7875 
95 140.0244it connects you to other people, almost like141.8395 
97 141.9930a military,142.7637 
99 143.1775you know, sort of thing.144.0625 
101 144.2927Um, /RD-SCHOOL-4/, actually my mom146.3480 
103 146.6550was the first class that integrated /RD-SCHOOL-4/149.1107 
105 149.4511I wanna say nineteen seventy-five. I might be off a year or two.153.5259 
107 153.8195But they were actually the first African Americans to integrate,156.2427 
109 156.6998um, /RD-SCHOOL-4/.157.9076 
111 158.4848<ts>158.5716 
113 158.6617And159.4512 
115 160.2499from that point161.1961 
117 161.4210of her class to mine,162.7465 
119 163.1535um, I think we were the- actually the last class.165.0254 
121 165.3123And after my class of ninety-eight, they went back to neighborhood schools, cause, you know, they had the bussing in the seventies to170.5816 
123 170.8886do the integration.171.9096 
125 172.1798And after the class of ninety-eight, they went back to going to neighborhood schools because it was difficult176.8285 
127 177.1321for parents to be active in the schools because they were so far.180.1348 
129 180.6898And a lot of parents in my neighborhood they didn't have cars, so183.3857 
131 183.6259how could you go to PTA's or how could you go to a football game186.7265 
133 187.1602when Seat Pleasant and /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is like fifteen mile189.9763 
135 190.1698difference.190.9027 
137 191.4811So, [they decided-] yeah, so they decided to- to, you know, allow us to go back to our neighborhood schools,196.8104 
138DCB_int_01191.8556[/Yup/.]192.1763
139DCB_se2_ag3_f_01197.1274which was good because it allowed us to be kind of interactive in the schools200.4982
141 200.7985as a community and also for the parents.202.8605 
143 203.4519/RD-SCHOOL-4/ was known for, um,205.7775 
145 206.0844actually our baseball,207.2756 
147 207.7561which is where I met my- my husband, /RD-NAME-3/- my ex-husband, /RD-NAME-5/. So we were like a great baseball team.213.1355 
149 213.6727That's pretty much it, as far as /RD-SCHOOL-2/. We didn't have like a huge reputation217.0768 
151 217.5339in sports or fashion or the arts or anything, it was just mainly baseball. It was all about baseball222.6297 
152DCB_int_01223.1135[S-]223.3371
153DCB_se2_ag3_f_01223.1235[at] /RD-SCHOOL-2/. <laugh>223.7808
154DCB_int_01223.8209So now you talk about, um, that it was a baseball school. What- what defined you in high school?228.9767
156 229.4138How were [you in] high school?231.2156 
157DCB_se2_ag3_f_01229.9109[Um,]230.6322
158 231.8195very mature.232.5368
160 232.6236<laugh> I've always kind of been a little bit ahead of my time, so.236.0978 
162 236.5783In high school I was very mature, what defined me was239.2776 
164 239.6746I think my ability to kind of be a chameleon242.0053 
165DCB_int_01242.2413[Mm-hm.]242.6621
166DCB_se2_ag3_f_01242.3847[and blend] with different people.243.9463
167 244.1932One thing that really sticks out about high school is my first job, my first real job that I ever got248.7518
169 249.2022was, um,250.0030 
171 250.2799I was an assistant editor for the judiciary committee.252.5196 
173 252.8966And I actually got that s- that job from high school. The House of Representatives called my high school and asked for258.1484 
175 258.5763a top senior,259.6140 
177 259.9777you know, like a recommendation for a senior that could, you know-262.4553 
179 262.5535would graduate and then move on to- to that position265.0901 
181 265.5406in Capitol Hill and-266.8351 
183 267.2489So high school was very instrumental268.9614 
185 269.1474for me in just career development,271.4205 
187 272.2012<ts> um, I think.272.8919 
189 274.5769Can I stop? (whispered)275.0297 
191 278.3981/I'm like/ I wanted to say something else but I had a little brain fart, so.280.9706 
192DCB_int_01281.0707It's okay.281.6112
193DCB_se2_ag3_f_01281.6579It happens.282.2326
194DCB_int_01282.6297Um,283.1035
196 283.2703so it's so funny because one of the questions I had was- Um, you said it was very influential for you so,289.0334 
198 289.9176um,290.3370 
200 290.5416when you left high school- So what was- what kind of was your trajectory from when you left high school, and then your next step was working with the judiciary [committee.]297.8028 
201DCB_se2_ag3_f_01297.5892[Mm-hm.]298.0623
202DCB_int_01298.0997And then what happened?298.8738
203DCB_se2_ag3_f_01299.0949Then after that I joined the Army.300.7565
205 301.0701My family is like military. My mom and dad's military, my uncles, aunts,305.0206 
207 305.3510it's just something that we do.306.4395 
209 307.0901Um,307.5373 
211 307.8375and so it was just my turn to serve and so I joined the US Army.311.2872 
213 311.7914And I was there for four years, stationed in Germany. And it was- that was a wonderful experience.316.3500 
215 316.8672And I think that going to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ and319.3237 
217 319.6440being exposed to different ethnicities322.1598 
219 322.4201kind of prepared me for going into the Army because you have people325.0868 
221 325.3504from different, um, economic backgrounds, different races,328.7137 
223 328.9406different parts of the country.330.2593 
225 330.6798It's almost like, uh, the same melting pot that is Washington DC was kind of like the Army.334.7258 
227 335.1808So I think, you know, being from this area337.2970 
229 337.6073and then also, you know, my school allowed me to be able to again be that chameleon342.1283 
231 342.4162and be able to kind of just blend and fit in,344.5316 
233 345.1321um, in that345.9596 
235 346.1498st- highly stressful environment.347.5979 
236DCB_int_01348.8132So, okay I had a different question but I wanna go back to something you just said, [right.] So DC353.1941
237DCB_se2_ag3_f_01351.9830[Okay.]352.2566
238DCB_int_01353.7046is this melting pot.354.9066
239DCB_se2_ag3_f_01355.0801Absolutely.355.6911
240DCB_int_01355.8576Now think about DC and the area when you-358.2159
242 358.8938maybe fifteen, twenty years ago,360.5463 
244 361.0401and now think about it now.362.2413 
246 362.9553What have you seen, how- and have you- have you seen this transition?366.6864 
248 367.0534How do you feel about it?368.3102 
249DCB_se2_ag3_f_01369.5659Um, DC had a nickname of Chocolate City.371.7180
251 372.2894And my new nickname for DC is diversity city375.0053 
253 375.1188because it's so much diversity in DC where377.6106 
255 377.9991as it used to be predominantly African American in a lot of381.4558 
257 381.8762areas in DC. Like for example where we are on Benning Road.385.2133 
259 385.6173H Street was predominantly African American owned businesses and there's just been,389.5945 
261 390.1759um, just this trend of change.392.4181 
263 392.6917And I think now it's more young professional entrepreneurs396.1918 
265 396.5263that are from different races and not just African Americans.400.1098 
267 400.5335And401.1007 
269 402.0758I don't really know how I feel one way or another about it. I appreciate405.3557 
271 405.6727being able to go out locally.407.7780 
273 408.1626And have that diversity of restaurants or diversities of night clubs and just hang out spots.412.9751 
275 413.3610Whereas before where we did- didn't really have as much because it was predominantly African American.417.6973 
277 417.9863So I do appreciate the- the cultural change420.6230 
279 421.0268that this whole trend has brought to the city.423.4258 
281 423.8595And- um, and I see a lot of clean up which is good, a lot of abandoned buildings and abandoned428.4181 
283 428.7751restaurants are being, you know, rejuvenated and r- and431.5778 
285 431.7113whole neighborhoods are like433.1936 
287 433.5573being rejuvenated, so that's exciting.435.5859 
289 435.8995Just to be a part of that change where it's kind of like438.1693 
291 438.5396a new breath is being breathe into the body of DC, so.441.7894 
293 442.2866It's exciting.442.8352 
294DCB_int_01443.1508So let's /?/ let's go back cause, I mean, I'm sure you remember as a kid some of these abandoned buildings [when they] were at their448.6902
295DCB_se2_ag3_f_01447.6526[Mm-hm.]447.9603
296DCB_int_01448.9739thriving point.449.6517
298 449.9757So what were some of your favorite451.5539 
300 451.9543activities or places to go or places to hang out when you were younger?455.4678 
301DCB_se2_ag3_f_01455.7881Union Station was the spot to be <laugh>458.2947
303 458.7284when I was younger.459.5325 
305 459.6793Um, which Union Station is in- is in Northeast DC actually not too far from where we are now.464.3213 
307 464.7751And, you know, you would dress up on a Saturday, put your best clothes on and get fly as we call it,469.8142 
309 470.2046And get on the subway and just hang out in Union Station.472.5635 
311 472.6670There was a movie theater there,474.1684 
313 474.5696pizza parlor,475.6841 
315 475.7975um, you name it, it was there. You know, if you wanted to shop,478.6570 
317 479.0715you know, catch a movie, um,481.0438 
319 481.6841<ts>481.7541 
321 481.9176eat or just hang out and look for boys, which is what we did. <laugh>484.9939 
322DCB_int_01484.9506<laugh>485.4577
323DCB_se2_ag3_f_01485.4043So that was the s- that was the spot.486.8566
324 486.9800Um, another-487.7975
326 488.0911another hot spot was Crystal's Skating Rink, which is actually on Branch Avenue, and this is in Prince George's County.493.1669 
328 493.7608Um,494.1045 
330 494.2846just outside of DC, Southeast DC, and that was another496.9973 
332 497.2575like, hot spot. You would do the same thing, on Saturday morning you would clean the house up,500.7951 
334 501.0821because we couldn't go out if we didn't clean up.502.5235 
336 502.6336That was the rule, you know, you clean up first504.2118 
338 504.5797and do all your chores and then, you know, you would get your best outfit and hop on the subway and just-508.9773 
340 509.4477and just hang out.510.2517 
342 510.4028But510.7131 
344 511.3537I think that back then,512.6383 
346 512.9119the difference that I see now with the young- younger people and- and when I was a teenager is that we were more active.517.9777 
348 518.3347We went bowling, we went skating, um, we didn't mind walking places.521.6679 
350 522.0291We didn't have a pick up and drop off person, like524.1412 
352 524.3781cause a lot of parents didn't have a car so we walked.526.5607 
354 526.8238We walked to the swimming pool in the summertime. If it's- it's a mile, like, we were young.530.1679 
356 530.5549Now I just see more of532.1629 
358 532.3600kids being more introverted.534.0971 
360 534.5730You know, being inside on computers and536.9385 
362 537.2923we were just more interactive I think back then. And that's the one thing that I-541.0501 
364 541.2637that I can say542.0277 
366 542.3881from the past fifteen years that I don't like as far as545.1975 
368 545.4744the trend with young people. I think that they're just more introverted.548.4581 
370 548.8218And I think that really hurts them in terms of550.6570 
372 550.9139being communicators.552.0807 
373DCB_int_01552.4062Mm.552.6297
374DCB_se2_ag3_f_01552.5797And knowing how to- Especially, you know, in a- in-554.7551
375 556.1398in the work force, just being out and being a team player. I think if you're559.4638
377 559.8509always alone or if you're relying on electronics, then when it comes time to be a team player,564.8032 
379 565.1168and be vocal and kind of roll your sleeves up,567.1255 
381 567.2756that's like a skill that's lis- that's lacking569.4577 
383 569.9682now.570.2425 
384DCB_int_01571.0401Hm.571.3270
386 571.6207So, it's interesting. Let me573.2156 
388 573.4191jump in.574.1398 
390 574.5035Um,574.9127 
392 575.1408I didn't know this about Union Station. I [wanna go back.]577.5206 
393DCB_se2_ag3_f_01577.0167[Oh yeah.]577.8135
394DCB_int_01578.2479[Because I think] of Union Station like, oh let me go I can get on the train [or I] can- you know, that's my pass through point for the subway. Like I had no clue587.2016
395DCB_se2_ag3_f_01578.3447[<laugh>]578.9542
397 582.0958[Uh-huh.]582.4993 
398DCB_int_01587.5353that Union Station- Cause I'm not from DC obviously, so590.2079
400 590.3981I had no clue that Union Station was like, the spot.592.9253 
401DCB_se2_ag3_f_01592.9172/Ugh/ the spot.593.9190
402 594.2360That is [the spot.]595.0735
403DCB_int_01594.5797[Wow.] (whispered)595.0237
404DCB_se2_ag3_f_01595.3671And then you know about go go.596.5115
406 596.7651So that is the [heartbeat-]598.0664 
407DCB_int_01597.6226[Tell me about] go go because I've heard different stories [about it.]600.2894
408DCB_se2_ag3_f_01600.1225[Okay.]600.5144
409 600.9333<ts>601.0067
411 601.1235Now this is just from- from- from my position.603.1988 
413 603.3457Go go is the heartbeat of the city.605.7113 
415 606.2727Um,606.8099 
417 607.0034and it's just something that's kind of inbred and it's like the love for the Washington Redskins.610.6503 
419 611.0273If you're from DC,612.0127 
421 612.3061you've heard of, danced to, or been to a go go. It's just615.4358 
423 615.7294you have to.616.3967 
425 616.9673Um,617.3977 
427 617.5545and I think that618.5660 
429 618.9467it connects us also, like if you wanna go back to about the communities.622.5168 
431 622.9005The DC area is very like, neighborhood focused.625.6006 
433 625.9977And so when you do go to a go go it's-627.9629 
435 628.0797it's like, repping, repres- they call it repping, representing your neighborhood. So,631.5373 
437 631.8509you may have, you know, people from Southeast and then you'll have Seat Pleasant and you'll have Landover and all these different636.7303 
439 636.9934sections of the city that go out together in groups.640.4434 
441 640.7904And you just- you represent your neighborhood, um,643.2046 
443 643.7641<ts> there you may like get a shout out from who's ever646.2632 
445 646.5702performing. But647.6238 
447 648.0149I think go go is something that- that connects us, the music651.2456 
449 651.6059as a city.652.3834 
451 652.8538And-653.4544 
453 653.7046and that spans generations because my grandmother used to go see Chuck Brown.656.9853 
455 657.5525And658.0764 
457 658.6269rest in peace Chuck Brown, the godfather.660.3461 
459 660.6597And I went to go see Chuck Brown, and my younger sister knows about Chuck Brown, so, I mean, it's just like a generational thing.666.1784 
461 666.5830Like again I compare it to the level the Redskins at.668.9420 
463 669.2890If you're a Washingtonian or,671.0740 
465 671.4352you know, a Prince Georgian, or even Northern Virginia,674.0644 
467 674.3414you have gone to a go go675.5392 
469 675.9062in your lifetime. And it's just something that's in us.678.2794 
471 678.4929I'll tell you a funny story. I was in the- the army, all the way in Germany.682.3166 
473 682.8104And so I'm missing home, and so I'm like, you gotta send me some go go CDs.685.9243 
475 686.2179So my family sent me over some go go CDs and I'm playing it in my dorm.689.6321 
477 690.0825And I'm getting knocks on my door and it's like, people from the area693.1855 
479 693.4124that's like, I didn't know you were from DC. And it's-695.3042 
481 695.6179it was just like,696.5062 
483 696.7165we're coming to /join this/ room, and they hung out in my room and we listened to go go.700.0724 
485 700.3326And then everybody else is like, what701.8942 
487 702.2178is that?703.0820 
489 703.1988What are you listening to?704.3232 
491 704.7503So, it- it's definitely a- a connector I think for- for folks in this area.708.7850 
492DCB_int_01708.7817Who's your favorite group?709.7159
493DCB_se2_ag3_f_01709.7059<ts>710.0463
494 710.5100Rare Essence is my favorite group.711.9948
495DCB_int_01712.3118Rare Essence, tell me about them.713.5905
496DCB_se2_ag3_f_01713.6439<ts>713.7540
498 714.1911Rare Essence is, um, a very well known go go band. They've had some commercial success.719.2268 
500 719.6439I- not as much as Chuck Brown. He's been the biggest, um,722.4566 
502 722.9872crossover723.8013 
504 723.9181act that we've had in that genre.725.7207 
506 726.2145Um, but Rare Essence is kind of what I would consider grown and sexy.729.4076 
507DCB_int_01729.8221Mm-hm, [mm.]730.4534
508DCB_se2_ag3_f_01729.9589[It's not] as rough731.5071
509 731.9175as the new go go music is and, you know, it's just kind of chill so it fit my personality.736.7122
510DCB_int_01737.2369<ts> Cool.737.6272
512 737.9442My, um, boyfriend loves, uh,740.0896 
514 740.6035I think it's Backyard.741.8613 
515DCB_se2_ag3_f_01742.3260Backyard.743.0530
516DCB_int_01743.0567And743.8641
518 744.3079the What Band.745.1954 
519DCB_se2_ag3_f_01745.2555Okay.745.6225
521 745.7993Mm-hm.746.1230 
522DCB_int_01746.0696And so I hear a lot of748.1917
523 748.5529that. All the time.749.8441
524DCB_se2_ag3_f_01749.8408<laugh> /Well that-/ we'll have to go out to a go go, /RD-NAME-2/.752.1831
525DCB_int_01752.4099Okay, we gon- we-753.4042
527 753.6078we're gonna do it. Let's- let- we need to plan a date.755.7807 
529 756.0043And756.8417 
531 757.1120we gonna do it.757.6403 
532DCB_se2_ag3_f_01757.7026I [need you-] I need you to get the whole experience.759.8025
533DCB_int_01757.9261[/We gonna-/]758.1997
534 759.8914The whole- okay, what's the whole experience? Do I need to wear the boots and-762.6983
535DCB_se2_ag3_f_01762.7717No, [I mean], the whole experience, it's just the music is intoxicating and I think because it's so percussion driven.768.6382
536DCB_int_01763.2922[Okay.]763.6392
537 768.7650Mm-hm.769.1365
538DCB_se2_ag3_f_01769.1087It just-769.8227
539 770.8137it almost to me is like772.3552
541 772.7364African drums. Like it just-774.3379 
543 775.0419it touches your soul. I can't really explain it, it's something you have to experience.778.8305 
545 779.1067And once you experience it,780.3880 
547 780.5782you'll get it.781.1554 
548DCB_int_01781.3122Where are the top- like, where are some good go go spots?783.5811
549DCB_se2_ag3_f_01783.6345Now that I don't know because I'm not a clubby anymore. <laugh>786.8985
550DCB_int_01786.9886/Oh/.787.1621
551DCB_se2_ag3_f_01787.3389Um, I'm a ex-wife and so I was really domestic for a long period of time and I just-791.5738
553 791.8775I don't go out as much as I used to.793.3186 
555 793.6025But I do know that Adams Morgan was really popular796.4063 
557 796.7397for different go go bands. And they play all over,798.7750 
559 798.9252um, all over the city and Maryland, so.800.7836 
561 801.2007It's just a matter of going on the website and checking it out. But I think we should do it.804.2845 
562DCB_int_01804.3479We should-804.6616
564 804.9452I- we-805.4390 
566 805.6959one night we were in U- we were on U Street, we were having dinner,809.1566 
568 810.0677and we walked into,811.7226 
570 812.1463um, I can't remember the name of the lounge.814.7631 
572 815.2369It's across from Ben's Chili Bowl but I can't remember the name.817.6359 
574 817.9962And they had a go go band. And I lo- We went ins- Marlee?821.3603 
576 821.4571Marlee and-822.3012 
578 822.4814I can't remember the name of the group but it's Marlee something.824.9572 
579DCB_se2_ag3_f_01824.9805Mm-hm.825.2850
580DCB_int_01825.3475And so we went back the next week to hear her sing. I mean, she was really good. It was- they were a really good group.830.0684
581DCB_se2_ag3_f_01830.0863Okay.830.3933
582DCB_int_01830.5134Um,831.0672
584 831.3809so I- I did enjoy them.833.1901 
586 833.5805Um,834.1844 
588 834.6416So go go e- I'm- it's growing on me. When I was here for college it- I was like, [mm.]839.8808 
589DCB_se2_ag3_f_01838.7530[What is that?]839.5091
590DCB_int_01840.1344But now it's like, okay, okay lemme get some [congos going.]844.0816
591DCB_se2_ag3_f_01843.1440[Yeah.]843.9800
592DCB_int_01844.4895Um, so I- I feel you on the go [go, I do.]847.2809
593DCB_se2_ag3_f_01846.7083[And they do a lot] of covers, they cover a lot of [like], R and B songs,850.4249
594DCB_int_01848.9071[Mm-hm.]849.2441
595DCB_se2_ag3_f_01850.8064um, that you hear on the radio, and so852.7550
597 853.2288that makes it a little relatable for folks that have never heard of it.855.9848 
599 856.0949Because you-856.4995 
601 856.7897you do know the song, so.858.0410 
602DCB_int_01858.4714Right.858.7776
603DCB_se2_ag3_f_01859.0486I think there are really some talented people.860.7503
605 860.9004Um, and I really-861.7716 
607 862.0123I'm surprised that it didn't take off863.5638 
609 863.7373the way that I thought it would have, because it's-865.5424 
611 865.9395it's really, uh, a unique genre of music. And even though I know it's just869.7340 
613 870.1177kind of a Washin- Washington DC area thing,872.9671 
615 873.3942when I've let other people hear it from other- you know, other regions they- they've k- enjoyed it, so.878.0428 
616DCB_int_01879.0472It- it- like I said, it grew on me. Like, I- I do enjoy- Especially like some of the nice, subtle884.0463
617DCB_se2_ag3_f_01884.1096[Mm-hm.]884.5624
618DCB_int_01884.2464[go go] music, [I really] enjoy like just listening like, okay, [/?/]888.2378
619DCB_se2_ag3_f_01884.9671[Mm-hm.]885.3175
621 887.4737[The jazzy-] the jazzy- I call it like, jazzy go go, I like that.890.7836 
622DCB_int_01890.8904The jazzy [go go?]891.8547
623DCB_se2_ag3_f_01891.4910[Mm-hm.]891.8714
624DCB_int_01892.3126So, um, yes894.0143
626 894.1477<sigh> that's a very good-895.3581 
628 895.6792Because I think about896.7532 
630 896.8737like /when/ this girl was singing and, um, she did like an Adele cover,900.6049 
632 900.8551and then she did, um, <ts>902.6835 
634 903.2774ah, what's that group?904.4085 
636 905.3470Ugh.905.7173 
638 907.5725Mm.907.8627 
640 908.2231Mm mm, it was a popul- Oh,909.9848 
642 910.1358anyway.910.5529 
644 910.8231But it was like she just- it was a mix. And then they did an original song,913.9161 
645DCB_se2_ag3_f_01913.9061[Mm-hm.]914.3139
646DCB_int_01914.1297[to kind of] spice it up, you know, so people would not be like- Cause me, I wouldn't know their [music.]918.5314
647DCB_se2_ag3_f_01918.3646[Mm-hm.]918.7850
648DCB_int_01918.8184But they mixed it up. And then like, some I've heard like they do like some hip-hop [covers and then] they do-923.4237
649DCB_se2_ag3_f_01922.3193[Oh yeah.]922.7706
650DCB_int_01923.6873and then they'll flow into their [thing. And I'm like], okay I can get down with this. [We went out to a-]927.9281
651DCB_se2_ag3_f_01925.0052[Mm-hm.]925.5491
653 927.1707[It's unique.]927.9094 
654DCB_int_01928.4161like a little929.2215
656 929.5705club930.2779 
658 930.5181lounge place.931.4657 
660 931.9095And it was really really fun.933.1640 
662 933.5252Like it was like, okay this is [not too bad], it's- alright I can- I can vibe with- It wasn't- you know, cause it wasn't like938.7036 
663DCB_se2_ag3_f_01935.1768[It's okay.]935.9609
664DCB_int_01938.8504ten year olds either.939.5426
665DCB_se2_ag3_f_01939.5277Exactly.940.2025
666DCB_int_01940.3627And I940.7163
668 940.8298w- am glad it was like, adult, it was like over [twenty-five, and it] wasn't like, the little-944.8115 
669DCB_se2_ag3_f_01943.3589[Okay.]943.7390
670 945.2474Teeny boppers. [<laugh>]946.3794
671DCB_int_01946.2225[Right.] Cause that can be mm, [you know.]948.3212
672DCB_se2_ag3_f_01948.0977[It's a] little nerve wracking.949.2694
673DCB_int_01949.2888It is. So besides- Okay, so,950.8170
675 951.5299<ts>951.6253 
677 951.7312um,952.1316 
679 952.4594you talked about Union Station and now we talked about go go and now we gotta set a go go date.956.5134 
681 956.8003Um,957.4376 
683 958.0015what are some of the like959.4170 
685 959.6306rest- Cause DC has like, fifty million restaurants. What are your favorite restaurants even growing up as a kid and even now?966.7817 
687 967.1420[Or places] to hang out968.2856 
688DCB_se2_ag3_f_01967.1988[Um],967.6359
689DCB_int_01968.5801and eat?968.9571
690DCB_se2_ag3_f_01969.3075as a kid970.0782
692 971.4037I had an allowance, so McDonald's.973.2421 
693DCB_int_01973.4857[<laugh>]974.6802
694DCB_se2_ag3_f_01974.1463[As an adult] The Oceanaire when someone else is paying.976.7931
695 977.2602Um,977.7812
697 977.9142and- a- I- you know, I really-979.1921 
699 979.3389Morton's, Morton's Steakhouse981.0272 
701 981.3942was a favorite, Ruth Chris is a favorite.983.7539 
703 984.2145Um, The Oceanaire, of course Ben's Chili Bowl.987.2892 
705 988.0157Oh,988.2926 
707 988.4961<ts> right down the street, Horse and Dickie,990.1377 
709 990.4647which is the famous fish spot that992.4166 
711 993.0606they used to have a line wrapped around two blocks just for996.0390 
713 996.4047a fish sandwich because they were that good,998.5301 
715 999.0539um, at one point.1000.1830 
717 1000.4394So we have like little hole in the wall spots that are really really popular,1003.6325 
719 1004.1697um, in the city. And then, you know, some I would say four, five star restaurants that are actually nice too, so.1009.3174 
721 1009.7193It just really depends on the mood for me1011.6420 
723 1011.9089as far as, you know, what I want. But1013.6606 
725 1014.1511I know that I can go to a mom and pop and really get some great food in DC.1017.8280 
727 1018.2058I- it's almost like New York because it's a lot of variety,1020.8368 
729 1020.9452um,1021.3222 
731 1021.5091as far as food.1022.4300 
733 1023.4676So those are my favorites but I'm- I'm so open, I'll go anywhere. <laugh>1027.3022 
734DCB_int_011027.4724So let me ask you this because I- I've heard about this Horse and Dickie, I've never had food from there.1032.3212
736 1032.8851Um,1033.4991 
738 1034.6001where are some other- So, besides them cause I know they're very [close. People] from the office still get stuff from [there, right?]1039.6425 
739DCB_se2_ag3_f_011037.5438[Mm-hm.]1037.9227
741 1039.2321[Oh yeah],1039.6066 
742 1039.7793oh yeah.1040.1363
743DCB_int_011040.2865And then where are some other1041.9014
745 1042.0891like kind of-1043.0266 
747 1043.1835Cause I like the little hole in the walls, I think that's the best experience.1046.7608 
748DCB_se2_ag3_f_011046.7670Keith and Sons, um.1048.3919
749DCB_int_011048.6396Where's that?1049.0533
750DCB_se2_ag3_f_011049.3002That's actually in Seat Pleasant near my house on MLK, which is probably1052.8804
752 1053.0239two miles from here.1053.8656 
754 1054.2726Um, they've been in business for about1055.6773 
756 1055.8308thirty years.1056.7316 
758 1057.6058Um, so I actually grew up on them, I would walk up to Keith and Sons. And they do soul food.1061.9142 
760 1062.3179They're very very popular,1063.7326 
762 1063.9628um, in the area as well.1065.3075 
764 1065.4409Kind of like Horse and Dickie1066.9666 
766 1067.3136are with fish they are with soul food.1070.0196 
767DCB_int_011070.0763Mm-hm.1070.3781
768DCB_se2_ag3_f_011070.6035Um, Levi's is another soul food spot.1073.1450
770 1073.5205Um, and then of course we have the carry outs, we have our Chinese carry outs that we love.1077.1774 
772 1077.8380Um,1078.3485 
774 1078.8665that are on every corner.1080.0449 
776 1080.8951[<laugh>]1081.6959 
777DCB_int_011081.2722[Two on] some [corners.]1082.5522
778DCB_se2_ag3_f_011082.1230[Yeah], sometimes [two on one corner.]1083.9981
779DCB_int_011083.0739[<laugh>]1083.8959
780DCB_se2_ag3_f_011084.5362Um, and it's- so I really would say like growing up, those are the places that I would go because it was inexpensive. So I probably would go to1090.4528
782 1090.8331Like a Keith and Sons and go grab1092.6349 
784 1092.9452a burger as opposed to McDonald's because it was like a real burger. Like,1096.3962 
786 1096.6730a house burger. If you ever seen Eddie Murphy Raw.1098.7416 
788 1099.1487[Like a house] burger.1099.8727 
789DCB_int_011099.1487[Mm-mm.]1099.5318
790DCB_se2_ag3_f_011100.3232You gotta wa-1100.7636
792 1101.1406[I'm'a get] you hip, /RD-NAME-2/.1102.0215 
793DCB_int_011101.1840[I'm sor-]1101.4855
794 1102.0816I'm sorry, I'm1102.7831
795DCB_se2_ag3_f_011102.8898Like,1103.1366
796DCB_int_011103.1468[/inaudible/]1104.5114
797DCB_se2_ag3_f_011103.3136a house burger.1104.2941
798 1104.5715A burger that your mom makes that she put-1106.2985
800 1106.7436puts eggs in it1107.7120 
802 1108.7097and onions and1109.5639 
804 1109.8775like a homemade1111.0119 
805DCB_int_011111.3889[Like-]1111.7924
806DCB_se2_ag3_f_011111.5091[burger.]1112.0778
807DCB_int_011112.3766yes like-1113.0973
809 1113.1940Okay.1113.6278 
810DCB_se2_ag3_f_011113.8714Like one of those burgers. So if you just want that- that down home1117.4757
812 1117.9028grandma just cooked dinner sort of feel you would go to Kei- you definitely would go to Keith and Sons.1121.9342 
813DCB_int_011122.7650Hm.1123.0074
815 1124.6769So d- okay, so most of your experience probably was in,1127.5171 
817 1128.5214um, PG,1129.2978 
819 1129.4256[Prince George's] and DC.1131.1652 
820DCB_se2_ag3_f_011129.4390[Mm-hm.]1129.8555
821DCB_int_011131.2975Were you- did you do a lot of dabbling in northern Virginia?1133.8908
822DCB_se2_ag3_f_011133.9809No.1134.2291
823DCB_int_011134.7683No?1135.0519
824DCB_se2_ag3_f_011135.5091It was kind of unspoken that you did not go into Virginia.1138.8632
826 1139.0333Um,1139.6139 
828 1139.7674Virginia is-1140.6582 
830 1141.2121was a little different than Maryland and DC in terms of young black folks hanging out.1145.7607 
832 1146.2378You would get-1146.8778 
834 1147.0219it was a lot of racial profiling.1148.4659 
836 1148.7236Um, even in the malls, like Pentagon City,1150.9933 
838 1151.5405or, um,1152.5148 
840 1153.4724I forget the other mall that's-1154.7936 
842 1154.9104that's in Alexandria. But it was a lot of racial profiling in Alexandria, and we just did- we did not hang out there.1160.5100 
844 1160.9538Once I got older,1162.2324 
846 1162.4461and I had a car, you know, I would drive, but as a teenager on the subway,1165.8060 
848 1166.2031going to northern Virginia you just didn't do it.1167.8981 
849DCB_int_011168.0424So are there boun- Like, DC you- I know you talked a lot it's like it's neighborhoods, but are there boundaries like,1172.4867
851 1172.8604are there very clear boundaries?1174.6763 
852DCB_se2_ag3_f_011175.0867It- <sigh> well, one thing about- this is just Washington DC,1178.7736
854 1179.1507for a person that lived in Maryland,1180.5695 
856 1180.6730if you a Washingtonian you would stay way out in Maryland. For some reason,1184.2097 
858 1184.7469people that lived in DC during the time that I grew up thought that Maryland was just this far place.1189.5958 
860 1190.0129And then I'm like, I'm from Seat Pleasant like I can literally spit from my house to your houses, like,1194.2879 
862 1194.6749just that one line, just that boundary line.1196.7936 
864 1197.0572So for me, it was kind of acceptable.1198.9165 
866 1199.1935But maybe for a person that lived in Bowie like where I went to high school, they really didn't go into DC because1203.8447 
868 1204.1224to them it was dangerous.1205.9075 
870 1206.5014Um, and then DC they didn't go into- they didn't go out maybe past Landover1210.7564 
872 1210.9966because of public transportation. How would they get there? They didn't have a car.1213.9037 
874 1214.2164Their parents didn't have cars, so we rely heavily on public transportation.1217.8875 
876 1218.1744And if a bus didn't go there, neither did you.1220.0396 
878 1220.8237And that was kind [of the-]1221.6445 
879DCB_int_011221.2774[Hm.]1221.6278
880DCB_se2_ag3_f_011221.9856the unspoken rule.1223.1234
882 1223.6973Um, and then certain places you just did not go1225.7193 
884 1225.8194like, you know, in DC in the nineties.1227.4810 
886 1227.9381Um, I would say I lost probably seventeen friends to- to-1232.2464 
888 1232.4066gun violence, to street violence.1234.0657 
890 1234.6963And certain neighborhoods you just did not go in for any reason1238.5853 
892 1238.8604at all.1239.3842 
894 1239.5177It was just that dangerous.1240.6763 
896 1241.1668And I ca- I do see a change, um,1243.1120 
898 1243.5491in that which is a good thing,1244.8552 
900 1245.3509as far as the crime in- in these neighborhoods where you can't even walk into a neighborhood without,1249.9361 
902 1250.3732you know,1250.9538 
904 1251.0606a person harassing you like, why are you here, who are you here to see?1254.3466 
906 1254.7416So that whole1256.2495 
908 1257.1240I guess, um,1258.0882 
910 1258.9065era has kind of died off which is1260.6315 
912 1261.0186a good thing, because DC was very very dangerous at one point.1264.0644 
914 1264.3293It really was.1264.9799 
915DCB_int_011264.9933So do you feel like- You said you lost about seventeen [friends, and then] do you feel like there was every a time where you were like, oh my god this is it, I'm gonna die?1271.6985
916DCB_se2_ag3_f_011267.7159[Mm-hm.]1268.0279
917DCB_int_011271.8107[Or so-]1272.1852
918DCB_se2_ag3_f_011271.8875[Uh-huh.]1272.3413
919DCB_int_011272.5348and-1272.7089
921 1272.8718Tell me about it.1273.2755 
922DCB_se2_ag3_f_011273.2521Absolutely.1273.9462
923 1274.0830Um,1274.6368
925 1275.4877I was in a car1276.3207 
927 1276.6696with some friends1277.7907 
929 1277.9175and we were in a neighborhood, you know, just kind of hanging out.1280.8537 
931 1281.4184And1282.0624 
933 1282.2993all of a sudden,1283.2107 
935 1283.5238you know, it was just like, gunfire.1284.9585 
937 1285.5791And I'm thinking it's like maybe a- Cause it sounds like a firecracker.1288.4319 
939 1288.8064But1289.2569 
941 1289.6473not that many firecrackers.1291.4523 
943 1291.8494And so I'm ducking, I'm like telling my girlfriend, you know, we need to duck. And at that moment,1296.2095 
945 1296.5615I think kind of changed my life and the- and the course of my life1299.7946 
947 1300.2526because I used to like hanging out like with bad guys. But1303.1120 
949 1303.2755after that night1304.5200 
951 1305.0372of experiencing that where I literally thought,1307.6773 
953 1307.9609I don't know where these bullets are coming from, I don't know where they're-1310.5972 
955 1311.1707who they're directed to,1312.4384 
957 1312.6963but I know that I'm in the middle of it and I should not be, I really don't have a reason to be here, why am I here?1317.0773 
959 1317.4910And so I started to question myself1319.2659 
961 1319.5872and the direction that my life was going in, and it was kind of like a turn around point,1322.9538 
963 1323.4977[uh, for me.]1324.3706 
964DCB_int_011323.5143[How old were you?]1324.3706
965DCB_se2_ag3_f_011324.7430Like sixteen.1325.4204
966DCB_int_011325.8575Mm.1326.1346
967DCB_se2_ag3_f_011326.4814/Up/ like sixteen and-1327.5324
969 1327.8461Because it was cool to hang out in DC even though I was from Maryland1331.0300 
971 1331.4737and know like /??/ right there on the District line, hanging out in DC was cool.1335.8547 
973 1336.1558DC kids were cooler.1337.7207 
975 1338.2812Um, they- they could stay out later, they dressed different. They had, you know, more freedom1342.9566 
977 1343.3870than we did. And so hanging out in DC was like the thing to do, but it was just so dangerous in the nineties.1349.3837 
979 1349.7807So it is a blessing1350.9385 
981 1351.1387that I am still here and able to-1353.0639 
983 1353.4776to talk about it because a lot of my friends are not.1355.8403 
984DCB_int_011356.6983So do you feel like-1357.9101
986 1359.2207<ts> Okay, so that was kind of the1360.5821 
988 1360.7130like,1360.9713 
990 1361.2535whoa moment. What do you feel like has been your1363.2679 
992 1363.7026like, most1364.3629 
994 1364.5968fondest memory growing up1366.1091 
996 1366.3994in this area. Because, I mean, even though they have that-1368.2979 
998 1368.4147you know we have the-1369.0253 
1000 1369.1487the bad [memories, the scary] memories,1370.7302 
1001DCB_se2_ag3_f_011369.8894[Uh-huh.]1370.2198
1002DCB_int_011370.9538there are still all the good ones that kind of like make you smile [and just-]1374.3312
1003DCB_se2_ag3_f_011373.9108[Oh yeah], I'm smiling now, I'm thinking about the skating ring, I'm thinking about,1377.4309
1004 1377.8146you know, just going to the go gos and, um,1380.6082
1006 1380.9051hanging out with my friends and then,1382.6935 
1008 1382.9605you know,1383.4376 
1010 1383.5877the band members in the go gos. It was kind of the it thing to- if you knew a band member. And that [means that]1388.2665 
1011DCB_int_011387.9228[Mm.]1388.2631
1012DCB_se2_ag3_f_011388.5200they would shout you out, or it was kind of like a- um,1390.9399
1014 1391.3369an acceptance sort of thing.1392.5615 
1016 1392.8951And I had that, and I was very popular1394.6869 
1018 1394.8604growing up.1395.3275 
1020 1395.6178So I'm just, you know, reminiscing in my head about1397.8708 
1022 1398.2011just those little days where, you know, like I said, we may have walked to the swimming pool1401.7279 
1024 1402.2350and hung out and had fun, and- and we weren't scared.1404.7884 
1026 1404.9385You know, and we- it was actually just enjoying a childhood,1407.3775 
1028 1407.5043so.1407.7332 
1030 1408.0982There's definitely some good memories, um, as well as bad.1410.9318 
1032 1411.0620And more- more good than bad.1412.2231 
1034 1412.6235[More good than-]1413.3253 
1035DCB_int_011412.7903[Oh that's always] good.1413.6654
1036 1414.1450So,1414.4820
1038 1415.4704now let's fast forward a little bit. So you were in the Army.1418.0963 
1039DCB_se2_ag3_f_011418.1130Mm-hm.1418.4300
1040DCB_int_011419.1640And then so- um,1420.9165
1042 1421.1735how-1421.5238 
1044 1421.8641what was the path after that?1423.3386 
1045DCB_se2_ag3_f_011424.1297After Army was marriage. <laugh> I came home,1426.9199
1047 1427.3002actually my dad passed away and I came home.1429.2722 
1049 1429.4290Um, I didn't re-enlist.1430.4400 
1051 1430.9171Because as the oldest I just felt so responsible to come back and kind of be a leader to1435.5991 
1053 1436.0863my younger siblings. Um, so I came back to the states,1438.8431 
1055 1439.3403and, um,1440.5048 
1057 1441.0586I got married.1441.7326 
1059 1442.5734I married my high school sweetheart from /RD-NAME-4/ that played baseball. <laugh>1446.0710 
1061 1446.7483And, um,1447.4457 
1063 1447.6892we bought a cleaning franchise, I was a business owner1450.3058 
1065 1450.9599for a while. And, um, enjoying married life and just,1454.5067 
1067 1454.9805you know,1455.5378 
1069 1456.0182kind of putting down my own roots.1457.6272 
1071 1458.8584Um, and unfortunately that n- didn't work out.1461.1862 
1073 1461.7154And then after that I was just kind of in a- a period of like a hiatus, just like, what're you gonna do, what do you wanna do?1468.1149 
1075 1468.5595And I always would talk to my ex-husband about me either starting a non-profit1472.6001 
1077 1473.0672or working for a non-profit. That's been like, my passion since1476.8651 
1079 1477.3155I can remember, you know, just always being of service. Because like I said, that's1481.2358 
1081 1481.5271coming from the neighborhood that I came from, joining the military, that's just what I've always done was give back.1486.0357 
1083 1486.7631And, um, I felt that I really had a story to share1490.0229 
1085 1490.3632with a lot of young girls. And then also to just show them that you can come from1494.1888 
1087 1494.5648very humble beginnings but that doesn't mean that you have to be a product of your environment.1498.8265 
1089 1499.1568And you can get out and, you know, you can join the military.1501.8594 
1091 1502.2131Or you can get married, you don't have to just be, you know,1504.9666 
1093 1505.6606a baby's mama.1506.4313 
1095 1506.5748You know, you can be a wife. You can /?/ you can be a business owner.1509.4843 
1097 1509.8088Even though all of these things didn't necessarily1511.9342 
1099 1512.2078work for me,1513.3489 
1101 1513.6158I was able to experience them. And I think that1515.8513 
1103 1516.5795it makes me relatable.1517.5772 
1105 1518.4714And then I got the job at the Boys and Girls Club, and1520.4867 
1107 1520.6902here I am.1521.2904 
1108DCB_int_011522.0716So,1522.5629
1110 1523.7307<ts>1523.8408 
1112 1523.9342um,1524.4814 
1114 1524.6349what do- okay, so what do you do at the Boys and Girls Club? Do you [like it?]1528.1054 
1115DCB_se2_ag3_f_011527.6687[<laugh>]1528.1016
1116 1528.3126<laugh>1529.0233
1117DCB_int_011529.4304<laugh>1529.7574
1118DCB_se2_ag3_f_011529.7407Sorry.1530.3488
1119DCB_int_011531.0653[Tell me how you really] feel, okay. [<laugh>]1532.8670
1120DCB_se2_ag3_f_011531.0853[Um],1531.6692
1122 1532.6402[I] am the executive as- the executive administrative assistant to the regional vice presidents,1537.6459 
1123 1538.2831/RD-NAME-1/ and /RD-NAME-1/.1539.0088
1125 1539.1573Um,1539.5811 
1127 1540.0415I love my job.1540.8531 
1129 1541.5672I like that I'm making a difference even if it's from the background and not necessarily right1546.1683 
1131 1546.5095out front and directly interacting with the children because what I do is very important1550.8437 
1133 1551.2541in terms of, um,1552.7864 
1135 1552.9799grants that we receive and-1554.6182 
1137 1555.1120and how our board members, um, fundraise for us. So it's a very important job, it's highly stressful.1560.2256 
1139 1561.5057Um, I love my coworkers. I think my work environment1564.5262 
1141 1565.3369makes me work harder.1567.3923 
1143 1567.7460Because I'm not just working hard by myself, I can look to my left or my right and see a person working1572.8818 
1145 1573.3589equally as hard if not harder.1575.1940 
1147 1575.6778Um, and it- it gives you a reason to get up in the morning because it's like, you're not doing it alone.1580.3813 
1149 1580.8203And if you ever are in a position where you're drowning, the organization that I work for1584.9952 
1151 1585.4423we help each other.1586.3832 
1153 1586.9671I mean, and it's like, we help each other until we get it right.1589.4737 
1155 1589.8441It's not like, okay I'm just gonna show you this and then I'm going back over to do my thing. No, I'm gonna stay there with you1594.4402 
1157 1594.7931until we figure it out together.1596.1878 
1159 1596.5515And that's1597.0286 
1161 1597.3155been very different for me, I've never worked in an environment where people cared1601.0000 
1163 1601.3236so much about one another,1602.6582 
1165 1602.9252just as much as they do about the mission, so.1605.0191 
1167 1605.4209It's a- it's a great-1606.3285 
1169 1606.5328a great work environment, like I said. Our mission is outstanding, I believe in what we do.1610.8404 
1171 1611.6812Of course there are some changes, um, that I would like to see, but who wouldn't1615.2922 
1173 1615.7727anywhere? But I think that one thing that I can say,1618.3578 
1175 1618.7731is that we do identify problems that we have, and we try to collectively come up with a solution1623.4810 
1177 1623.9222from- from all levels. And it's not just the leadership that are saying, hey this is what you're gonna do. Like, I feel that we do have an input1629.3509 
1179 1629.8355in what goes on here. And that's just been very different than any other1633.3150 
1181 1633.7159work experience that I've had, so.1635.3650 
1182DCB_int_011636.0824What do you feel like has been your most rewarding moment,1638.5481
1184 1638.9185and then what do you feel like has been your most challenging moment at work?1641.9915 
1185DCB_se2_ag3_f_011642.7564<sigh> My most rewarding moment was, um,1645.1800
1187 1645.7526a few months ago, maybe six months ago, they-1648.3752 
1189 1648.5128we were doing res- restructuring our organization.1651.0953 
1191 1651.5324And my original position was the administrative analyst,1654.0816 
1193 1654.2092which kind of phased out.1655.4604 
1195 1655.8741And I had to1656.7683 
1197 1657.0720apply for another position.1659.0279 
1199 1659.5110Um, and I want- I wanna say this was challenging and rewarding, this is gonna be both.1663.0286 
1201 1663.4657Because, um,1664.3766 
1203 1664.6502I was competing again-1665.6612 
1205 1665.7788against a person that I admired1667.6940 
1207 1667.7907and I respected1668.7007 
1209 1669.0419and I had worked closely with1670.3732 
1211 1670.8370in the past. And, um,1672.4827 
1213 1672.7964she and I both1673.9042 
1215 1674.2745interviewed for the same position. Um,1676.4133 
1217 1676.8070I was1677.3809 
1219 1678.3226offered the position,1679.3303 
1221 1679.7106and she's moved on to do other things. Um, it was rewarding1682.9071 
1223 1683.2007for me in a sense that1684.7831 
1225 1685.2235they recognized the things that I had done in the past which is why they offered me the position.1689.4610 
1227 1689.9256And it was just challenging because1691.9475 
1229 1693.1020I wanted it but I wanted her to get it at the same time1695.5677 
1230DCB_int_011695.5611[Right.]1695.8146
1231DCB_se2_ag3_f_011695.7312[and,]1696.2793
1232 1696.4027you know, it was just almost like1698.3212
1234 1699.3456just take it I don't want it sort of thing because I knew that she was just as deserving1702.8999 
1236 1703.2602as I was. Um, so that was the most challenging thing that I've experienced here.1707.0639 
1238 1707.5344And then1708.2217 
1240 1709.2869it was humbling.1710.0109 
1242 1710.4447It was humbling because it taught me that1712.3098 
1244 1712.7102you can do stellar work but, you know,1714.8591 
1246 1716.2178Anybody's job is- is- is- [is up for] grabs. Like, it's not-1719.1774 
1247DCB_int_011717.6859[Mm.]1718.0029
1248DCB_se2_ag3_f_011719.5944my foot- my feet are not in cement here.1721.5565
1250 1722.0176And so that kind of made me1723.6067 
1252 1723.7093step it up even more in terms of1726.2500 
1254 1726.4408working outside of my job responsibilities and- and teaming up with other people1730.5634 
1256 1730.9004and making myself a viable member,1733.0266 
1258 1733.5063um,1733.9200 
1260 1734.1569of my team.1734.8109 
1261DCB_int_011736.2189Um,1736.5993
1263 1737.1498okay so let's not talk about work anymore.1738.9182 
1265 1739.2193Um, not that I don't like work, but1741.0444 
1267 1741.8686work is-1742.4558 
1269 1742.6126work is work.1743.2332 
1271 1743.3500<laugh>1743.9172 
1273 1744.1408[And-]1744.3410 
1274DCB_se2_ag3_f_011744.1441[Indeed.]1744.5645
1275DCB_int_011744.5011<laugh> and you do it all day,1745.6431
1276 1745.9767every day.1746.3638
1278 1747.0211Um,1747.4148 
1280 1747.8218so I know that you are now working on your college degree, right?1751.2185 
1281DCB_se2_ag3_f_011751.2118Mm-hm.1751.5088
1282DCB_int_011751.5563So tell me a little bit about that.1752.6607
1283DCB_se2_ag3_f_011753.0611Um, right now I'm going to school online for my associates degree.1757.4220
1285 1757.7365I've been going back to school for /about/ (laughing) three years now.1760.1221 
1287 1760.5125It's just1761.0564 
1289 1761.4901being a working adult1762.5612 
1291 1763.2860and then1763.9304 
1293 1764.1002I was married, I hadn't divorced yet. And then we had a business, it was just1767.5769 
1295 1767.7103overwhelming1768.5045 
1297 1768.8523for me to do all of that1770.1702 
1299 1770.3738and focus on school.1771.8819 
1301 1772.4658Um,1772.8929 
1303 1773.1631if one thing that Boys and Girls taught me- I know that we- we're- we're going past the [work], but I [just wanna say]1777.3247 
1304DCB_int_011776.4186[/Hm/.]1776.5829
1306 1776.8109[/??/]1777.2071 
1307DCB_se2_ag3_f_011777.5950they taught me how to prioritize.1779.6970
1309 1780.1374And now, um,1781.5788 
1311 1782.4105I think I'm more focused1784.0821 
1313 1784.4491and I'm able to prioritize, I'm able t- to do project management. So going back to school this last time1789.7117 
1315 1789.9586has been a lot easier on me1791.5303 
1317 1791.8972than it has in the past because I'm able to1794.0301 
1319 1794.4205like I said, prioritize my task and actually make time for school.1797.9209 
1321 1798.3710I'm thinking that, hey /RD-NAME-2/ you're smart, you know, it's online, it'll be easy. No it is not.1802.7995 
1323 1803.1898I think it's actually harder to go online than in the classroom because1806.2473 
1325 1806.6273you have to be able to be focused,1809.1264 
1327 1809.4534you have to be disciplined, you have to put in that time.1812.0468 
1329 1812.4138You don't have a teacher in- or instructor in front of you,1815.0263 
1331 1815.3166you're at home doing it. So the cell phone has to go off,1817.7523 
1333 1818.0701the TV has to go off, the home phone has to go off, you may even have to1821.5836 
1335 1822.6046eject people out of your space and like, look, I really- this is what I need to do, and commit yourself.1827.4201 
1337 1827.7838And it's kind of hard to do that when you're in a home environment1830.4038 
1339 1830.6474because there's so many distractions.1832.2689 
1341 1832.8395I'm- but I'm gonna do it, I am really focused on1835.6898 
1343 1836.1702getting /a/ degree1837.1445 
1345 1837.4748because I think that1838.5879 
1347 1839.6403I need it. And- and it's no way I can preach the importance of education to my family members,1844.3290 
1349 1844.7094and to the children that we work with if I don't have it myself I just believe in leading by example.1849.1011 
1351 1849.9420Um, and it's just time,1851.0855 
1353 1851.2899it's really time,1851.9539 
1355 1852.2275so.1852.5323 
1356DCB_int_011852.6146What are you getting your degree in?1853.8658
1357DCB_se2_ag3_f_011853.9767Business administration.1855.0578
1358DCB_int_011855.8752Gotcha.1856.3323
1360 1856.5893So, okay I know we said we were going away from work, but now that you brought that up. So is this your-1860.7308 
1362 1861.1946um,1861.8252 
1364 1861.9586I know you said you love your job, [is this] your be all end all? What- or what's your end goal?1865.7058 
1365DCB_se2_ag3_f_011863.2032[Mm-hm.]1863.4668
1366 1866.8843That-1867.6970
1368 1868.2289my- my book is still being written. Like, I'm not sure.1871.0850 
1370 1871.4629Um,1871.9066 
1372 1872.0835I love it here and I would like to grow in this organization,1875.0998 
1374 1875.3834but it just really depends on where we are as a organization. I can't1878.7541 
1376 1879.1011say what my- I would love to be /??/ actually. <laugh>1882.6713 
1378 1883.2260To be a CEO.1884.2603 
1380 1884.4138Um, but1885.0211 
1382 1885.3013it just really depends on- on1887.0197 
1384 1887.7704the organization and1889.2623 
1386 1889.5496how we are with our restructuring, that really depends on my future here1892.6493 
1388 1893.1431at the Boys and Girls Club. I would love to have a future here. I enjoy working in youth development.1897.5950 
1390 1897.9353I actually would like to be more involved on the program side,1900.5812 
1392 1901.2193um, as well as, you know, the support. But I would also like to be more involved1905.3233 
1394 1905.6403with the kids. More involved, um,1907.6764 
1396 1907.9167with the programming,1909.0778 
1398 1909.4114the volunteer piece of it. I would like to kind of do-1912.0373 
1400 1912.6146have a position where I'm kind of touching1914.7208 
1402 1915.0044all bases at once.1916.3357 
1404 1917.0631Um, because the children really make me get it. Like when I see them in the morning,1921.1278 
1406 1921.5082when they come through the office.1923.1999 
1408 1923.5735Um,1924.0707 
1410 1924.2509it's just like, this is why I'm doing it. It's a constant reminder of1927.5950 
1412 1928.0921why am I stressed out? Okay and I see those smiling faces and it's like,1931.3671 
1414 1931.6956we're doing it because you wanna give them1933.3147 
1416 1933.6817better opportunities.1934.9896 
1418 1935.4267Um, so1936.1241 
1420 1936.3343if I could have a position here where I kind of1938.8843 
1422 1939.1545touched on all of those- all of those- all of those pieces at once,1942.6691 
1424 1943.0283I think that that'd be the ideal position for me.1945.1145 
1425DCB_int_011946.2122Yeah I do like like you said the flexibility of it and- and, you know, we have to go beyond what's ris- listed on our job [description cause]1953.7404
1426DCB_se2_ag3_f_011953.2265[Mm-hm.]1953.6837
1427DCB_int_011954.1308I know even us, we have1955.5363
1429 1956.2103things that are not listed on our little bullet points. We are in the other duties as [assigned.]1960.4210 
1430DCB_se2_ag3_f_011960.2475[Yup.]1960.5519
1431DCB_int_011960.6746[That's their favorite category.]1962.0067
1432DCB_se2_ag3_f_011960.7213[/inaudible/]1961.8855
1433 1962.4672And it's gonna be there, on every job description.1964.5309
1434DCB_int_011964.6894[Mm-hm.] Because that's- that's gonna be-1966.3710
1435DCB_se2_ag3_f_011964.6927[Know that.]1965.1673
1436DCB_int_011966.5879You might have seven things but really we want you-1968.5573
1438 1968.7942/?/ other duties as assigned. This gonna be your major bullet [point right here], this is what we want you to do.1972.9716 
1439DCB_se2_ag3_f_011971.1865[Mm-hm.]1971.8004
1440DCB_int_011973.4654Um, and I- I will say that I know that you are a team player and, um,1977.9906
1442 1978.2375I know one thing that we have talked about is the whole mentoring piece. And this is actually k-1981.8952 
1444 1982.0054kind of helpful, cause I can kind of get a sense of who you are [and how-]1985.2852 
1445DCB_se2_ag3_f_011984.7947[Mm-hm.]1985.1329
1446DCB_int_011985.5330and how we want to- to grow. And I think- So,1988.3324
1448 1988.4758I'll ask you this question even though this has nothing to do with growing up in DC,1991.5502 
1450 1991.8499what do you feel like is the area that you want to like, grow the most.1995.5836 
1451DCB_se2_ag3_f_011996.0006Public speaking.1996.7180
1453 1997.1117Um, I think that I have,1998.3337 
1455 1998.7641excuse me,1999.1812 
1457 1999.9353very good ideas, but2001.5669 
1459 2001.7504sometimes when it comes to articulating those ideas,2004.9179 
1461 2005.4615um, I fumble and stumble.2007.2866 
1463 2007.4768and I don't want to- /that-/ I want to be at a place where2010.0001 
1465 2010.3571I'm communicating effectively.2011.9920 
1467 2012.4825And I think that2013.4701 
1469 2013.6703the reason why I m- reached out to you as a mentor is because I see you do that2016.8976 
1471 2017.0411on a- on a daily basis.2018.4491 
1473 2018.9529And2019.5402 
1475 2020.1207I read somewhere, I think it was Oprah,2021.8825 
1477 2022.3537or somewhere that successful people have mentors.2024.7394 
1479 2025.2399And if you see a person that's doing something2027.4754 
1481 2028.2670the way that you wanna do it,2029.4114 
1483 2029.9186reach out to 'em and say, hey, you know,2031.7437 
1485 2032.0040I wanna know how you do that,2033.2460 
1487 2033.6064and I wanna do the same.2034.6541 
1489 2035.1445And I think that it's important as women2037.2733 
1491 2037.6770that, you know,2038.7872 
1493 2039.2285we can do that to one another. Especially African American women, that we can pull one another up.2043.2499 
1495 2043.7470Or where, you know, I may have a strength2045.6723 
1497 2045.9734and that's your weakness that we can work together and team together, you know what I'm saying, to- to-2049.9806 
1499 2050.0907to make that be your strength as well.2051.6990 
1501 2052.4272And2052.9944 
1503 2053.7184like I said that would be one area that I can say I am lacking in.2056.9692 
1505 2057.4562Um,2057.8466 
1507 2058.1002I c- I write very well. <laugh>2059.9920 
1509 2060.2723I do my job well, but2061.6989 
1511 2062.1207m- sometimes my job requires me to speak,2064.4672 
1513 2064.8309my job requires me to instruct.2066.8662 
1515 2067.3300And I don't think that at this point, the point where I am now I'm doing that as effectively as I should be.2072.6460 
1517 2073.4668And I really want to.2074.3710 
1519 2074.9249So, one thing that I'm gonna do is join a toast masters club.2078.0220 
1521 2078.1388I found a toast masters club,2079.4634 
1523 2079.9372um, that's in my area, it's actually on Largo.2082.1093 
1525 2082.5306And it's like the fees are ridiculously low.2084.3924 
1527 2085.1665And I went on the website and actually reached out to them.2087.6118 
1529 2088.1669So I'm gonna go to one of their meetings in February and just kind of see what it's all about and2092.1408 
1531 2092.5311if it's something that would be helpful to me, but.2094.5406 
1533 2095.0811You know, I'm- I'm really proactive about making myself a better me.2098.7555 
1534DCB_int_012099.3361Mm.2099.6297
1535DCB_se2_ag3_f_012099.6297And sometimes you have to go outside the box to do that.2102.0154
1536 2102.5926You know, you have to tap into resources you're like,2105.0884
1538 2105.2527/well who/, that person? Yeah, that person.2107.2480 
1540 2107.5482Exactly that person,2108.7227 
1542 2108.9129so.2109.1431 
1543DCB_int_012109.1164The person that you would think not, or the person you're like, mm I really don't wanna deal with them, but they have some- they have that nugget or that kernel that I really [need.]2116.4310
1544DCB_se2_ag3_f_012116.2275[Mm-hm.]2116.8051
1545DCB_int_012116.9215And you're just like, alright let me suck it up,2118.5573
1547 2119.1812deal with it.2119.7184 
1549 2120.8462Knock, knock, knock, (knocking) excuse me.2122.2609 
1550DCB_se2_ag3_f_012122.5011Right? [Exactly.] <laugh>2124.1769
1551DCB_int_012123.0383[Um],2123.5455
1552 2124.2770and so actually what I'm going to do now is I'm gonna give you an assignment,2127.8326
1553DCB_se2_ag3_f_012128.0307[Okay.]2128.3276
1554DCB_int_012128.1474[I'll] e-mail it to you,2129.2051
1555 2129.4996that I want you to prepare for, um,2131.3714
1557 2131.4949we're gonna meet tomorrow.2132.4525 
1559 2132.6159We'll- I'll be in the office all day.2133.8819 
1560DCB_se2_ag3_f_012133.9139Me too.2134.2509
1561DCB_int_012134.4077So we'll just2135.0525
1563 2135.4295kind of2135.7996 
1565 2136.1435steal away and go somewhere. But [I'll prepare] an assignment-2138.3957 
1566DCB_se2_ag3_f_012137.4782[/Okay/.]2137.7506
1567DCB_int_012138.7494um, prepare an assignment for you for tomorrow, um,2141.5621
1569 2141.9167so that you can2142.6140 
1571 2142.9110uh, get ready. And that'll be our first2145.3400 
1573 2146.3209piece.2146.8456 
1574DCB_se2_ag3_f_012147.1092Okay.2147.3928
1575DCB_int_012147.8533Um,2148.3838
1577 2149.2079And then I guess- /Okay/ so let me go back2150.8428 
1579 2151.4734to-2151.9573 
1581 2152.1708I know, we- we have been [everywhere.]2153.6923 
1582DCB_se2_ag3_f_012153.1484[We kind of all over the place.]2154.7608
1583DCB_int_012153.8266[<laugh>]2154.4038
1584 2154.7942But that's okay because sometimes I think it's just, you know,2157.2799
1586 2158.5445nobody is2159.9559 
1588 2160.5273just one person or one2162.1655 
1590 2162.3824dimension right?2163.0797 
1591DCB_se2_ag3_f_012163.0764Mm-hm.2163.4568
1592DCB_int_012163.4267People have so many2164.8402
1593 2165.1818aspects.2165.8522
1595 2166.0368You were a wife, you were an employee, you are a student.2169.6369 
1597 2169.9339You're not just,2170.9516 
1599 2171.0250oh,2171.2963 
1601 2171.4696I'm just- I just work for the Boys and Girls Club. You have a life outside of that.2174.8962 
1602DCB_se2_ag3_f_012174.8962Mm-hm.2175.2619
1603DCB_int_012175.2366Your life doesn't stop2176.3482
1604 2176.5245just in this one year. You2177.9534
1606 2178.2837have had thirty-three years of-2179.8786 
1608 2180.3423you know, of [things], so.2181.9706 
1609DCB_se2_ag3_f_012180.8462[/Planning/.]2181.3527
1610DCB_int_012182.6679<ts>2182.8081
1612 2182.9916It- it's- it's more so even though we're all over the place I think it- it's really good because2186.8606 
1614 2187.4835you've helped me kind of understand more about /RD-NAME-2/ and- and you've given me like, some great stories about like, DC that I had no clue.2194.5716 
1616 2195.1284Like I really honestly had2197.0177 
1618 2197.2246no clue,2198.0821 
1620 2198.5559um,2199.0987 
1622 2199.4134some of- some of the things that-2200.9557 
1624 2201.1759like the life.2202.3036 
1626 2202.4805And I knew go go music was big but I [didn't know h-]2204.5159 
1627DCB_se2_ag3_f_012204.1055[/Oh yeah/.]2204.5292
1628DCB_int_012204.6660And I- I had no clue about Union Station, like [that Union Station was]2207.6456
1629DCB_se2_ag3_f_012206.5045[Wow.]2207.6669
1630DCB_int_012207.7598the [place to hang out.]2208.7708
1631DCB_se2_ag3_f_012208.1035[/??/] but I'll- if I find some old pictures-2210.3957
1632 2210.6860I wanna go dig around and see if I can find some old pictures because2213.9967
1634 2214.4905pictures are- are /what they say/ worth a thousand words. And if you could just see us at the go gos and at Union Station and it's just like,2221.0177 
1636 2221.6383I get it.2222.2122 
1637DCB_int_012223.4901Like I had no clue.2224.4044
1639 2224.5879[Hon- like-]2225.1618 
1640DCB_se2_ag3_f_012224.6012[Yeah.]2225.0453
1641 2225.4087Yeah.2225.8224
1642DCB_int_012226.1536And it's so funny because we have our annual formal,2228.4658
1644 2228.6894our senior ball at the Union Sta- at Union [Station.]2231.2163 
1645DCB_se2_ag3_f_012230.9082[Really?]2231.4253
1646DCB_int_012231.5722Mm-hm.2231.9945
1648 2232.2703Um, each year they deck it out with lights and everything, and I'm just like-2235.9072 
1649DCB_se2_ag3_f_012236.5879Mm, Union Station.2237.3686
1651 2237.4829[<laugh>]2237.8094 
1652DCB_int_012237.4829[Union S-] right, like,2238.5806
1653 2238.8843I mean, it's beautiful, it's, I mean, absolute g- like, transform the place. But I'm thinking like, why would they do Union Sta- But now I kind of understand the back story that Union Station was2246.5292
1655 2246.7961not simply just a2248.2575 
1657 2248.5779place of [transportation.]2249.8195 
1658DCB_se2_ag3_f_012249.6631[Right.]2250.2103
1659DCB_int_012250.3504But it's like, a place of2251.8719
1661 2252.9997activity [and life] and- and socializing.2255.8633 
1662DCB_se2_ag3_f_012253.8138[Oh yeah.]2254.2108
1664 2255.8199Mm-hm.2256.4134 
1665DCB_int_012257.1712Totally changed my viewpoint2258.3857
1667 2258.5192about Union [Station.]2259.4610 
1668DCB_se2_ag3_f_012259.0964[I forgot] one little piece2260.1841
1669DCB_int_012260.1942Mm-hm.2260.4444
1670DCB_se2_ag3_f_012260.3910that I wanted to give you.2261.2518
1671 2261.5121Um, and this just ties back into the community2263.6919
1673 2264.1288that I grew up in.2264.9662 
1675 2265.2165Uh, my grandmother is really2267.3294 
1677 2267.4929really heavily into politics, local politics,2270.0421 
1679 2270.4324um, in the county and in the state.2272.2175 
1681 2272.6855And one other thing that I wanted to mention is that I am a member of my Civic Association2277.1999 
1683 2277.7504and that2278.4477 
1685 2279.4829there's a lot of young folks on our Civic Association, you know, in the neighborhood where- where I live.2284.0774 
1687 2284.5645And they give back as well, they have that same spirit of- of community service.2288.6693 
1689 2289.0263You know, we door knock, we- we2290.9849 
1691 2291.2418pick people up and drive them to the polls if they don't have a ride to- to vote,2294.5959 
1693 2295.1898um, and make sure that they're registered to vote.2296.9916 
1695 2297.1426That's the first thing that we give our seniors before they graduate from high school2300.5826 
1697 2301.0831along with a college application is voter registration card. I mean, it's just something that you do.2305.7117 
1699 2306.0954It's expected of you. And last year-2308.5512 
1701 2308.7180well,2308.9937 
1703 2309.5421yeah before last,2310.4538 
1705 2310.7074I was an election judge, um,2312.3457 
1707 2312.8128in my area, in my district.2314.2142 
1709 2314.5245And I think we had maybe2316.3271 
1711 2316.4572seventy percent of our voters were first time voters.2319.4501 
1713 2320.3910So that just ties into2322.0835 
1715 2322.4872us being so community driven and like a family and just certain things are expected of you and you just do it without- without thought.2329.7484 
1717 2329.9920So I wanted to add that-2330.9730 
1719 2331.2632that piece to,2332.0273 
1721 2332.4077um, tie it to my community and2334.2870 
1723 2335.2379<ts> um, family life.2336.1914 
1724DCB_int_012336.9396And that's so in- And I-2337.9439
1726 2338.1341Because DC is2339.4554 
1728 2339.7298the political capital of the nation.2341.7017 
1730 2342.1622Um, how do you-2343.4968 
1732 2343.7170You know, and so I know2344.7881 
1734 2345.4195I wasn't here the first time Obama got elected but how was the city? How was,2349.7038 
1736 2349.9839I mean, even just leading up to the election and2352.4795 
1738 2352.9877just the pulse of the city and then when he got elected,2356.0407 
1739DCB_se2_ag3_f_012356.3376[It w-]2356.6409
1740DCB_int_012356.3443[and being] so heavily involved?2357.8558
1741DCB_se2_ag3_f_012358.0168it was2358.5006
1743 2358.9143absolutely2360.0154 
1745 2361.2866amazing.2361.9773 
1747 2362.1241And I have a story. (laughing)2363.4287 
1749 2363.9167Um, there was2365.0010 
1751 2365.5482a- a older lady, and I wanna say maybe2368.1574 
1753 2368.3443she was2368.9415 
1755 2370.1035ninety-seven or something, she was2371.8719 
1757 2372.1188way up there in age. And- um,2373.9239 
1759 2374.3076and so I'm helping her,2375.4529 
1761 2376.1602in her chair and helping her up to the polling station so that she can vote. And2380.3810 
1763 2380.8281she just started crying and she's like,2382.5339 
1765 2382.9844this'll be my last vote-2384.1855 
1767 2384.3457time voting, I'm sure.2385.7537 
1769 2386.3777And I'm sick2387.4387 
1771 2387.8966but2388.3771 
1773 2388.5873I got out of my bed2389.7718 
1775 2389.8719to come2390.5359 
1777 2390.6960and vote for Obama.2391.8605 
1779 2392.2575And then I saw a lot of young people2393.9600 
1781 2394.2603who were /our/ first time voters. And then2396.1755 
1783 2396.5325my husband at the time, you know, he had never voted,2398.8448 
1785 2399.1517but he voted for Obama.2400.3404 
1787 2400.7441And he was actually involved in- you know, with the outside, we call it working the polls where2405.1893 
1789 2405.4996you're handing out literature to help people understand who they're voting for giving 'em /backgou-/ background information,2410.3910 
1791 2410.7280transporting people back and forth. He was so heavily involved in it because2414.2322 
1793 2414.5792he really believed in what Obama stood for.2416.9983 
1795 2417.4187And I think that he2418.6507 
1797 2419.1011energized this whole city.2420.7194 
1799 2421.2366Um,2421.5969 
1801 2421.7270especially with young people that2423.2452 
1803 2423.6531who were like, oh my vote doesn't count, you know, they're-2425.9286 
1805 2426.0788you know, it doesn't matter if I vote or not, you know, they're gonna do what-2428.7614 
1807 2429.0483He really2429.8770 
1809 2430.2303made people believe that2431.7985 
1811 2432.1555your vote will count2433.2132 
1813 2433.3600and2433.8572 
1815 2434.2676I'm gonna do what I say I'm gonna do.2435.6998 
1817 2436.1235And I think that it was just excitement like, wow, you know, our first African American president.2440.9782 
1819 2441.3753And then, you know, he and his family and how they represent black love, it was just kind of like,2446.1374 
1821 2447.0717thank you. Like we finally have a image that is so positive and people can actually see2452.1341 
1823 2452.4878us being us instead of what they may see on the news or,2455.6550 
1824DCB_int_012456.0354[Mm.]2456.3824
1825DCB_se2_ag3_f_012456.1255[you know], a video game or video, music video. You're actually seeing us,2460.1369
1826 2460.3404how we are as a family.2461.6250
1828 2461.9620And what I found so funny was when Michelle brought her mother (laughing) <laugh>2465.0216 
1830 2465.5630to the White House.2466.3638 
1832 2466.7008And that's typical of- of- of African Americans and how we're so2469.8171 
1834 2470.0707family oriented.2470.9883 
1836 2471.1451I woulda did the same thing.2472.0635 
1837DCB_int_012472.1269[Mm-hm.]2472.4795
1838DCB_se2_ag3_f_012472.3271[Like], we're going to a new city, I need my mama.2474.1622
1839 2474.5425So, (laughing)2475.2065
1841 2475.6603he just really energized the whole city and he made it hot and sexy. He made DC like-2479.8085 
1843 2480.3190we've had more celebrities come here now2482.2676 
1845 2482.5178since Obama has been in office than ever2484.4171 
1847 2484.7608ever before.2485.5256 
1849 2485.9553I mean, he made it like, a new hot spot.2487.9372 
1851 2488.1808So,2488.5645 
1853 2488.6913thanks Obama.2489.3353 
1855 2489.5254<laugh>2489.8558 
1856DCB_int_012490.1869And then my last kind of fun question just cause you kept talking about the Redskins, and then I'll just have you, um,2494.7747
1858 2494.9224do a couple things for me.2495.8699 
1859DCB_se2_ag3_f_012495.9300Okay.2496.2637
1860DCB_int_012497.8185So,2498.5644
1862 2499.1965this whole thing, they fired the coa-2501.5254 
1864 2501.8132Okay, you already know where I'm going, what're your thoughts?2504.4224 
1865DCB_se2_ag3_f_012505.5202I- I'm on board with it. I say fire everyone from the-2508.6040
1867 2508.8275<laugh>2509.1979 
1869 2509.6584from the top to the bottom.2510.7635 
1870DCB_int_012510.8895Mm.2511.1498
1871DCB_se2_ag3_f_012511.2733We have not been to the Super Bowl since Doug Williams.2513.7799
1873 2513.9133However,2514.8075 
1875 2515.2112I think the Redskins have the most loyal fans in the NFL because we show up2519.5496 
1877 2519.9467every game.2520.8682 
1879 2521.2313We buy tickets, we buy the jerseys, you know, we're Redskin fever. But2525.5488 
1881 2525.9100I just really would like to see them2527.7390 
1883 2528.4858give us back what we give them.2529.9144 
1885 2530.2342And I think that a new coach is a great start.2532.4490 
1887 2532.5706And I have my fingers crossed, I say it every season, this is gonna be our year.2535.7370 
1889 2536.0206So I'm gonna say that again, this is gonna be our year. (laughing)2538.2737 
1891 2538.6741But we'll see.2539.3214 
1893 2539.4915We'll see. I'll still support 'em either-2541.0564 
1895 2541.1865either way.2541.6636 
1896DCB_int_012541.8505You'll go all the way.2542.6146
1897DCB_se2_ag3_f_012542.4903<ts>2542.5478
1898 2542.6613All the way.2543.5588
1900 2543.9896[We do.]2544.2799 
1901DCB_int_012544.0030[Mkay.]2544.3533
1902 2544.9606From2545.3677
1904 2545.5011fifteen L's to fifteen [W's, whichever] way it [goes.]2548.5039 
1905DCB_se2_ag3_f_012547.2670[Yup, it-]2547.7675
1907 2548.1612[whichever] way it goes, I'm- I'm'a be a Redskin2550.2858 
1908 2550.8872fan for life.2551.9895