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1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.3209 | Um, what's your birthday /RD-NAME-2/? | 1.5893 |
2 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1.7152 | July seventh, nineteen eighty. One sixteen PM. | 4.3217 |
3 | DCB_int_01 | 4.9419 | Okay. [Um], great. One sixteen [to be exact.] Do you remember which uh, bassinet you were placed in? | 11.6493 |
4 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 5.6142 | [<laugh>] | 6.3645 |
6 | | 8.0555 | [Mm-hm.] | 8.5265 |
8 | | 11.5947 | I was third from [the left at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Southeast DC.] | 15.5150 |
9 | DCB_int_01 | 12.5774 | [<laugh>] | 15.5104 |
10 | | 16.1305 | And what's your hometown? | 17.5574 |
12 | | 17.7812 | /Of/ [DC.] | 18.4433 |
13 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 18.2102 | [Washington] DC. | 18.9504 |
14 | | 19.1136 | Yup. | 19.3188 |
15 | DCB_int_01 | 19.8690 | Um, what neighborhood do you kind of claim as your own? | 22.6201 |
16 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 22.8999 | Deanwood. | 23.3988 |
17 | DCB_int_01 | 23.6227 | Deanwood. | 24.2399 |
18 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 24.2568 | Mm-hm. | 24.6205 |
19 | DCB_int_01 | 27.8088 | And you've lived here all your life? | 28.9932 |
20 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 29.1396 | Yup. | 29.3895 |
21 | DCB_int_01 | 31.0437 | Um, have you lived any other places, including college? | 34.0140 |
22 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 34.1072 | Um, ten years in Baltimore, Maryland, | 36.3501 |
24 | | 36.8525 | um, | 37.6126 |
26 | | 39.7995 | and a six month span in Richmond, Virginia. | 43.6545 |
27 | DCB_int_01 | 50.5918 | Where'd you go to school? | 51.3145 |
28 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 51.9440 | Uh, started at /RD-SCHOOL-5/ University during that six month span. | 55.7944 |
30 | | 56.3819 | Didn't quite pan out, | 57.5710 |
32 | | 58.0093 | came back home and got my uh, two year from /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Community College. | 63.0254 |
34 | | 64.2238 | Have not | 64.6808 |
36 | | 65.3009 | finished beyond there. | 66.3687 |
38 | | 66.5914 | It's a goal. | 67.1789 |
39 | DCB_int_01 | 72.9691 | And what's your current- I'm- | 74.2281 |
41 | | 74.5078 | I'm not sure what your status is on your current occupation situation? | 77.8232 |
42 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 77.8558 | <laugh> | 78.3967 |
43 | DCB_int_01 | 78.4060 | <laugh> | 79.2873 |
44 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 79.2815 | So I'm currently the program [director] | 81.9300 |
45 | DCB_int_01 | 81.6223 | [Okay.] | 82.3170 |
46 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 82.4523 | at the /RD-WORK-7/ | 84.1589 |
48 | | 84.3920 | /RD-WORK-10/. | 86.1935 |
49 | DCB_int_01 | 87.4404 | And | 88.2145 |
51 | | 88.6201 | now I'm gonna ask some- a few questions about your parents, and then we'll get started kind of- this is just a | 92.9517 |
53 | | 94.0373 | background. | 94.6061 |
55 | | 95.5154 | <ts> Where was your father born? | 96.5599 |
56 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 96.9598 | Father was born in Cordele, Georgia. | 98.6198 |
57 | DCB_int_01 | 99.1653 | Whoa! [That's my] neck of the woods! [Exit ninety nine.] | 102.3874 |
58 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 99.9906 | [Mm-hm.] | 100.4709 |
60 | | 101.0771 | [Mm-hm.] | 101.8731 |
61 | | 102.5448 | Yup. | 102.8292 |
63 | | 103.1556 | Cordele, Georgia. | 104.5312 |
64 | DCB_int_01 | 104.5824 | Whatchu know about [Georgia?] | 105.9720 |
65 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 105.5990 | [<laugh>] | 106.9232 |
66 | DCB_int_01 | 106.0839 | [Where was your mom] born? | 107.3102 |
67 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 107.4968 | Winston Salem, North Carolina. | 109.0775 |
68 | DCB_int_01 | 109.7245 | Oh. Okay, that's a story. I'll get that in a [moment.] | 112.3310 |
69 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 111.9440 | [Yup.] | 112.2564 |
70 | | 112.6761 | Just starting to get to know my father's side of the family, too. | 115.1463 |
72 | | 115.3748 | [/I just-/] | 115.8737 |
73 | DCB_int_01 | 115.4773 | [What did your father] do or what does he do? | 116.9135 |
74 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 117.0907 | Uh, he's a janitor for DC public schools. | 119.3895 |
75 | DCB_int_01 | 119.3895 | So he's here? | 120.0843 |
76 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 120.1251 | Yup. | 120.3582 |
78 | | 120.9971 | Mm-hm. Yeah, most people don't- | 122.5078 |
80 | | 122.9741 | because he is not as spoken of as th- my mother, the [queen], | 126.4806 |
81 | DCB_int_01 | 126.0843 | [As queen.] Mm-mm. | 127.3934 |
82 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 127.4400 | um- | 128.0042 |
84 | | 128.2234 | I remember when I went away to school, | 130.1165 |
86 | | 130.2424 | and I had a friend of mine's, oh, I guess your mom's gonna have to get a boyfriend now. | 133.5193 |
88 | | 134.3073 | Hey, no my dad lives at home. | 135.8368 |
90 | | 136.3730 | [So he's very c-] | 137.1284 |
91 | DCB_int_01 | 136.4383 | [Are your parents married?] | 137.5673 |
92 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 137.5387 | Yeah. | 137.8418 |
93 | | 138.4293 | Married, uh, | 139.4260 |
95 | | 139.7198 | thir- um- uh- I'm thirty five- | 141.4358 |
97 | | 141.7109 | Thirty one [years.] | 142.7181 |
98 | DCB_int_01 | 142.3031 | [No] | 143.1517 |
99 | | 143.4361 | clue, /RD-NAME-2/. | 144.2321 |
100 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 144.2428 | Thirty one years. | 145.1183 |
101 | DCB_int_01 | 145.1369 | No clue. | 145.7804 |
102 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 145.8410 | Yeah. | 146.2327 |
103 | DCB_int_01 | 146.8342 | What? | 147.3658 |
104 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 147.3845 | Yeah. | 147.8414 |
106 | | 148.1818 | He is um- | 149.2123 |
108 | | 149.8045 | So there's two sides of it. He's very quiet, very quiet reserved person. | 153.1933 |
109 | DCB_int_01 | 153.0674 | /You know/ you didn't get that from him. | 154.2518 |
110 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 154.3217 | No. | 155.1377 |
111 | DCB_int_01 | 155.1937 | Mm-mm. | 155.5341 |
112 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 155.4688 | Um, | 156.0936 |
113 | | 156.3034 | but then we have had- | 157.9763 |
115 | | 158.6058 | Our, you know, relationship has had its | 161.3615 |
117 | | 161.7998 | journey, | 162.3734 |
118 | DCB_int_01 | 162.4375 | Mm-hm. | 162.7732 |
119 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 162.7546 | and because of that, | 163.6592 |
120 | | 164.0649 | /and/ I don't always speak of | 165.9906 |
122 | | 166.8533 | my father. So, | 167.7998 |
124 | | 168.4573 | we at a | 168.8164 |
126 | | 169.4027 | decent place | 170.1488 |
128 | | 170.4192 | now, | 170.7177 |
130 | | 170.8529 | but | 171.0534 |
132 | | 171.8274 | I don't speak of him as much because he just wasn't as much of a part. | 174.6765 |
133 | DCB_int_01 | 175.1556 | As mom. | 175.7291 |
134 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 175.7851 | Nah. | 176.0555 |
135 | DCB_int_01 | 176.2933 | What did mom do? Cause I- Mom's retired now, [right?] | 178.4663 |
136 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 178.2331 | [Yup.] She was a- uh, executive assistant for DC public schools [for thirty-] | 182.4799 |
137 | DCB_int_01 | 181.6266 | [Mm, so y'all] all up in [DPS?] | 183.5104 |
138 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 183.1140 | [Oh yeah.] | 183.5290 |
139 | DCB_int_01 | 183.7715 | I mean [DCPS.] | 184.6461 |
140 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 184.4663 | [DCPS.] Yup. | 185.2496 |
141 | | 185.3802 | Thirty seven years. | 186.3407 |
143 | | 186.8245 | She worked all over the place, superintendent's office, the board of education's office, local schools. | 192.2779 |
145 | | 192.9038 | Did a little bit of everything. | 193.7291 |
146 | DCB_int_01 | 194.3773 | So, | 195.1700 |
148 | | 195.3985 | alright. So let's- let's back up. | 196.8160 |
150 | | 197.5714 | First of all, | 198.1869 |
152 | | 198.3582 | Cordele and Winston [Salem.] | 200.0789 |
153 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 199.9017 | [Mm-hm.] | 200.4659 |
154 | DCB_int_01 | 200.7363 | Um, | 201.7249 |
156 | | 202.3031 | that's the seventy five eighty five corridor. They | 204.3547 |
158 | | 204.5774 | kind of ain't really that connected. How'd your parents meet? | 206.9088 |
159 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 207.7155 | They met uh, through my | 209.6460 |
161 | | 209.8651 | uh, mother's sister. | 210.9329 |
163 | | 211.7991 | And my father | 212.7410 |
165 | | 213.1000 | was friends with a mutual friend, | 214.6574 |
167 | | 214.9092 | and when they moved here to DC- | 216.6205 |
169 | | 217.0670 | Uh, my mom moved to DC when she was six or seven, | 220.4756 |
171 | | 221.1470 | and uh, they | 222.4387 |
173 | | 222.7872 | met through some mutual friends, went out on a date, and | 225.1094 |
174 | DCB_int_01 | 225.7637 | [The rest-] | 225.9875 |
175 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 225.7948 | the rest was [history.] | 226.5782 |
176 | DCB_int_01 | 226.1678 | [And here you] are. | 226.8859 |
177 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 227.0538 | Here I am. | 227.5481 |
178 | DCB_int_01 | 227.6320 | [Um], okay. So they met in DC. | 229.5519 |
179 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 227.7206 | [Yup.] | 227.9864 |
180 | | 229.6079 | [Mm-hm.] | 229.8504 |
181 | DCB_int_01 | 229.8690 | Okay. | 230.2560 |
182 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 230.3540 | [Yeah.] | 230.5405 |
183 | DCB_int_01 | 230.4985 | [So] how- how did mom come to- Was it | 232.2797 |
184 | | 232.7041 | like, | 233.0072 |
186 | | 233.3382 | grandma and grandpa decided y'all was coming to DC? | 235.3841 |
187 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 235.3934 | Yeah, they- they moved there from Winston Salem. Like I said, she was about six or seven, | 238.6201 |
189 | | 239.0351 | um, just to pursue new opportunities, new things, | 242.1768 |
191 | | 242.5731 | and landed in DC. And- | 244.3404 |
193 | | 244.4756 | and my mom is one of | 246.7138 |
195 | | 248.4379 | five. | 249.0534 |
197 | | 249.5290 | One of five, | 250.1026 |
199 | | 250.6714 | and uh, they just, you know, wanted to seek some new opportunities | 254.2094 |
201 | | 254.8156 | and came to DC. | 255.5244 |
202 | DCB_int_01 | 255.6922 | How'd dad end up here? | 256.6808 |
203 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 256.9605 | Um, same deal. | 258.0377 |
205 | | 258.2009 | Um, my dad is one of sixteen. | 260.5312 |
207 | | 261.2399 | [<laugh>] Yeah. | 263.7672 |
208 | DCB_int_01 | 262.1627 | [Hm. Wow.] | 263.1032 |
209 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 264.0143 | And um, just in search of some new opportunities, to do some new things. And he ended up coming up with a friend of his | 270.7697 |
211 | | 271.3887 | and [was-] | 272.1441 |
212 | DCB_int_01 | 271.7012 | [Oh this was a] decision he made as an adult. | 273.5010 |
213 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 273.5010 | Yeah yeah [yeah. So he was-] | 274.8206 |
214 | DCB_int_01 | 273.8974 | [Oh he didn't do this as a] child. Okay. | 275.3196 |
215 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 275.4128 | Yeah, he was a little bit- | 278.0322 |
217 | | 278.3027 | Let's see. | 278.9042 |
219 | | 279.0114 | When they- | 279.5803 |
221 | | 282.4107 | Twenties | 283.4400 |
223 | | 283.6685 | when they met. | 284.1908 |
224 | DCB_int_01 | 284.9322 | Okay. | 285.3238 |
225 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 285.2959 | Yeah, met- | 285.8135 |
226 | | 285.9580 | mid to late twenties when they met. | 287.2030 |
228 | | 287.6926 | And um- | 288.5086 |
230 | | 289.5892 | Yeah cause they were all family- All my other | 291.3938 |
232 | | 291.6876 | family on his side is basically still down south. | 293.6879 |
234 | | 294.3641 | He's a- | 294.6252 |
235 | DCB_int_01 | 294.6578 | [Cordele?] | 295.1587 |
236 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 294.9831 | [one] of | 295.4121 |
237 | | 295.7105 | three who came up north | 297.1327 |
239 | | 297.6689 | in Cordele. | 298.3450 |
241 | | 298.4802 | [Cordele], | 299.1843 |
242 | DCB_int_01 | 298.4849 | [In Cordele.] | 299.1890 |
243 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 299.5807 | Raleigh, | 300.3920 |
245 | | 300.9411 | um, | 301.5519 |
247 | | 303.0767 | couple other places down around about | 304.9745 |
249 | | 305.2823 | those parts. | 306.0610 |
250 | DCB_int_01 | 307.0577 | So have you traveled a lot? Like, | 309.0347 |
252 | | 309.1793 | have you- do you go | 310.3310 |
254 | | 310.5175 | down South and see them? Are you | 312.3174 |
256 | | 312.5506 | pretty much | 313.4494 |
258 | | 313.9203 | whatever's happening around the District that's what's happening. | 316.3433 |
259 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 316.2965 | Yeah, that's basically what's happening. We had our first family reunion for that side of that family | 321.4264 |
260 | | 321.8787 | last July. | 322.7041 |
262 | | 323.2450 | Uh, first time I had seen | 324.8490 |
264 | | 325.0064 | them- | 325.5986 |
266 | | 325.9063 | I've only been down South once before and I was | 328.5455 |
268 | | 328.7554 | four. | 329.3336 |
270 | | 329.6553 | Three or four. | 330.3034 |
272 | | 330.7872 | /Had/- And it was the only time I met my paternal grandfather | 333.5570 |
274 | | 333.8368 | uh, it was during that time. He died not too long after I- we- that visit | 336.8910 |
276 | | 337.2022 | uh, when I was three. | 338.0649 |
278 | | 338.6757 | Uh, but hadn't seen any of that part of the family with the exception of | 342.4340 |
280 | | 342.9364 | one uncle and his wife who moved to New Jersey, | 345.5896 |
282 | | 346.0419 | and one uncle and his wife who had moved to Ohio. | 349.3468 |
284 | | 349.9343 | Other than that, hadn't seen any of these folks in- | 352.3264 |
286 | | 352.6714 | from- | 353.0398 |
288 | | 353.3056 | almost thirty years | 354.5226 |
290 | | 355.1043 | until last July, | 356.2141 |
292 | | 356.6477 | uh, which was an interesting experience. | 358.6388 |
293 | DCB_int_01 | 358.8346 | Where was it? | 359.4688 |
294 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 359.6133 | Uh, in Raleigh. | 360.5879 |
296 | | 361.2302 | Um, and then we're planning for the next one which is this- No, next summer, | 364.7740 |
298 | | 365.1657 | which will be here in the DC area. | 366.7231 |
300 | | 367.4214 | So [now I get to help host.] I'm on the- | 369.1746 |
301 | DCB_int_01 | 367.6545 | [Oh you on the committee?] | 368.5824 |
302 | | 369.5896 | You [always on the committee. You d- You- You the eternal] on the [committee man.] | 373.8877 |
303 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 369.8181 | [I'm on the committee. /I get trapped in-/] | 372.1822 |
305 | | 373.2768 | [Mm-hm.] | 373.9110 |
306 | DCB_int_01 | 374.2700 | Mm-hm. Any [/the/ committee], you the- | 375.9393 |
307 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 374.7721 | [But it's interesting.] | 375.6409 |
308 | | 376.2704 | Yeah, I mean it's interesting just like, [reconnecting] | 378.4731 |
309 | DCB_int_01 | 378.0796 | [Then with] it- yeah. | 379.2216 |
310 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 379.2288 | with family. And I [think especially-] Yeah. Especially because | 382.6295 |
311 | DCB_int_01 | 379.9716 | [After thirty years.] | 380.9694 |
312 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 383.3056 | my relationship with my father is what it is, | 385.9576 |
314 | | 386.1022 | and has not always been the best, | 388.2145 |
315 | DCB_int_01 | 388.2611 | Mm-hm. | 388.6434 |
316 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 388.6761 | reconnecting with that part of the family was | 390.7930 |
318 | | 391.7851 | weird at first. | 393.1979 |
320 | | 393.6456 | Um, but refreshing. | 394.8424 |
322 | | 395.3242 | And I remember sitting- We had the little banquet that night, and | 397.9949 |
324 | | 398.2887 | they actually went through the lineage. And to be in a room and- | 401.2123 |
326 | | 401.8278 | and to be- feel connected, | 403.0215 |
328 | | 403.4633 | was, you know, the- All the other stuff from me and my father went out the window | 406.9699 |
330 | | 407.2869 | because I realized the connect- | 408.6205 |
332 | | 408.9364 | the connection that I had with, | 410.5218 |
334 | | 410.7876 | you know, | 411.0627 |
336 | | 411.4218 | eight | 411.6176 |
338 | | 411.9580 | generations of people. | 413.1657 |
340 | | 413.6506 | And they're tracing and going back and looking and seeing that this and this and this and this. | 417.2166 |
342 | | 417.6689 | So, | 418.0513 |
344 | | 418.4709 | it was interesting. | 419.2963 |
346 | | 419.6320 | Humbling, I'll say. | 420.6345 |
347 | DCB_int_01 | 420.9364 | So, okay. So let's go back to your childhood kind of here. | 424.5036 |
349 | | 425.0678 | Um, do you remember your neighborhood? Where you grew up- the house or apartment that you grew up in? And how was like- how was- | 430.7647 |
351 | | 431.0584 | And how many brothers and sisters do you have? I don't think- | 433.0996 |
353 | | 433.3188 | Are you an only [child?] | 434.1022 |
354 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 433.7105 | [I am an] only child [by] birth. | 435.7575 |
355 | DCB_int_01 | 435.1327 | [Mm.] | 435.3192 |
356 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 436.6714 | Only child by birth- And that was- I had a weird | 438.7744 |
358 | | 439.6732 | upbringing in the sense that | 441.0721 |
360 | | 442.7554 | most of my life, school, church, [everything] else, | 446.5032 |
361 | DCB_int_01 | 445.7159 | [Mm.] | 446.0461 |
362 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 446.8622 | was inside the city, | 448.1492 |
364 | | 448.6248 | but we always lived right outside of DC in | 451.1568 |
366 | | 451.9100 | <ts> Chillum, Maryland, which is maybe like- | 453.9533 |
367 | DCB_int_01 | 454.2164 | [Mm-hm.] | 454.5257 |
368 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 454.3497 | [it was, you] know, right across- | 455.5714 |
369 | | 456.0050 | right across the Eastern Avenue, | 457.6592 |
371 | | 458.2467 | right across that line. | 459.1750 |
373 | | 459.5430 | Um, | 459.9953 |
375 | | 460.1678 | and so I was- it was a weird thing. | 461.6366 |
377 | | 462.0936 | The elementary school I went to- | 464.2374 |
379 | | 464.5778 | Um, if DCPS ever found this out, they would probably send me a really big tuition bill, | 468.4480 |
381 | | 469.0437 | Um, I wasn't supposed to go to cause I wasn't a DC resident. | 471.6689 |
383 | | 472.3497 | Uh, [but I went.] | 473.3374 |
384 | DCB_int_01 | 472.7647 | [Which elementary] school? | 473.6040 |
385 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 473.8045 | [/RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary on Division Avenue. | 475.8317 |
387 | | 476.6011 | Um, | 477.3145 |
389 | | 477.5244 | in Northeast and Deanwood. | 478.6994 |
391 | | 479.2216 | Um- | 479.8092 |
393 | | 480.5587 | [/Had this humble history/.] | 481.7792 |
394 | DCB_int_01 | 480.6592 | [But I've seen Division Avenue], so I think | 482.2511 |
395 | | 482.5638 | if I just | 483.1874 |
397 | | 483.4824 | follow that little- | 484.1958 |
398 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 484.3217 | [Mm-hm.] | 484.6155 |
399 | DCB_int_01 | 484.4942 | [I] probably would- Okay. | 485.2799 |
400 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 485.2651 | Yup. So it's kind of like, in the middle of the hill. | 487.2442 |
401 | | 487.9203 | Um, | 488.5731 |
403 | | 489.0394 | because my mother worked at /-WORK-1/ Elementary School, which is around the corner, | 493.2582 |
405 | | 493.6918 | she had a relationship, | 494.6804 |
407 | | 494.8389 | um- she actually went to the principal at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 497.3149 |
409 | | 497.7113 | and just flat out asked, | 499.0799 |
411 | | 499.3468 | can my son come? /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was a historic school, | 501.8508 |
413 | | 502.3590 | great leadership, /RD-NAME-5/, | 504.4655 |
415 | | 504.6707 | the greatest principal that ever walked the face of the Earth, | 506.6291 |
417 | | 507.1746 | um- | 507.7482 |
418 | DCB_int_01 | 507.7715 | What made him so great? | 508.7833 |
419 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 509.1564 | Just | 509.7439 |
421 | | 509.9526 | he was | 511.3328 |
423 | | 511.9623 | what you think of when you think like, old school teacher and [administrator.] | 515.1284 |
424 | DCB_int_01 | 514.4600 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 515.3522 |
425 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 515.5574 | Um, he was a- a- | 516.8537 |
427 | | 517.0008 | he's like a grandfather type. | 518.2794 |
429 | | 518.6804 | He didn't play any games, | 520.1165 |
430 | DCB_int_01 | 520.2751 | [Like /RD-NAME-2/?] | 521.0177 |
431 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 520.2937 | [um, but he-] Like /RD-NAME-2/. | 522.0085 |
432 | | 522.2277 | He was a /RD-NAME-2/ for elementary school kids. | 524.2514 |
434 | | 524.4192 | It was a little [toned down.] | 525.4404 |
435 | DCB_int_01 | 524.7456 | [That's intense.] | 525.8886 |
436 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 525.7295 | [It was a little-] But he was a little toned down, so it wasn't, you know, | 528.1589 |
437 | DCB_int_01 | 528.1682 | Oh, [okay.] | 528.6765 |
438 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 528.4760 | [so] like, /uh/, | 529.5753 |
439 | | 529.9763 | but [there was-] | 530.6949 |
440 | DCB_int_01 | 530.1162 | [I need you not] to be six and having /RD-NAME-2/ [/or I will/] | 532.4646 |
441 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 531.9254 | [<laugh>] | 533.0305 |
442 | | 533.4222 | But it was good. I mean, | 534.5366 |
444 | | 534.7080 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was the first school to do all day pre kin- all day kindergarten | 539.0864 |
446 | | 539.4781 | in DC public schools. It was the first school to do | 542.6011 |
448 | | 543.0077 | a mandatory uniform policy | 544.5943 |
450 | | 545.0072 | um, in the city schools. | 546.2941 |
452 | | 546.7872 | Um, a lot of firsts. And then- some issues with, you know- | 549.8601 |
454 | | 550.2984 | I think at that time, | 551.5481 |
456 | | 551.9211 | a uniform- | 552.8257 |
458 | | 553.0996 | uniform policies | 554.6664 |
460 | | 554.8576 | were different than where I kind of look at them now, | 556.8253 |
462 | | 557.1704 | but there was a sense of unity and a sense of pride | 559.3095 |
463 | DCB_int_01 | 559.8155 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 560.7083 |
464 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 559.9250 | [that Mr. /RD-NAME-2/] taught. | 561.1513 |
465 | | 561.4777 | I mean, from the kindergarten | 562.8533 |
467 | | 563.2869 | through sixth grade, | 564.1496 |
469 | | 564.2848 | there was pride about | 565.3701 |
471 | | 565.5380 | tuck your shirt in. | 566.5358 |
473 | | 566.6804 | Where's your tie? | 567.5663 |
475 | | 568.0932 | Iron your blouse. | 569.2683 |
477 | | 569.7486 | And he corralled the community around that. There was a community around Deanwood that wrapped its r- arms around /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 575.0305 |
479 | | 575.5760 | and um, | 577.0122 |
481 | | 578.0229 | he led them. | 578.7503 |
483 | | 578.9088 | And he was- he was the | 580.2844 |
484 | DCB_int_01 | 580.4849 | Mm. | 580.7142 |
485 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 580.7119 | the shepherd | 581.3395 |
486 | | 581.8092 | of a big flock. | 582.6100 |
487 | DCB_int_01 | 582.6660 | Have you gone- I don't know if he's still alive [now, but] | 585.3145 |
488 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 584.8629 | [/Yeah./] | 585.1754 |
489 | DCB_int_01 | 585.7256 | have- Did you ever go back and reconnect, even after you, | 588.8905 |
490 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 589.7812 | [Yeah.] | 590.1542 |
491 | DCB_int_01 | 589.8091 | [you know.] | 590.1542 |
492 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 590.5226 | So my connection to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ still stays extremely strong. | 593.3669 |
494 | | 593.8286 | Um, | 594.3508 |
496 | | 594.6085 | <ts> | 594.7553 |
498 | | 595.2449 | let's see. | 595.8511 |
500 | | 596.0889 | My fifth grade year, he retired | 597.7676 |
502 | | 597.8981 | [as] principal from- Well he left | 599.9346 |
503 | DCB_int_01 | 597.9429 | [Mm.] | 598.1066 |
504 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 600.3170 | to take a job with the central office as a area superintendent | 603.6929 |
506 | | 604.1079 | cause he was the bomb. | 604.8400 |
508 | | 605.6374 | And so, I think- | 607.3480 |
510 | | 607.6505 | I can't remember how many years later, but he did eventually pass. | 610.8260 |
512 | | 611.1851 | And so there was a reunion of sorts where ever- everyone came back together. His protege, | 615.4924 |
514 | | 615.8981 | uh, was a nam- a lady by the name of /RD-NAME-5/, | 618.1212 |
516 | | 618.2750 | and she became principal my sixth grade year. | 620.2101 |
517 | DCB_int_01 | 620.2101 | That name sounds very [familiar.] | 622.0427 |
518 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 621.4831 | [She is]- she was the female /RD-NAME-5/. | 624.9838 |
519 | | 625.6366 | Uh, to this day, I can pick up my phone and call | 628.7119 |
521 | | 629.1291 | uh, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ and | 630.6434 |
523 | | 631.1004 | talk for hours and ask | 632.6065 |
525 | | 633.1707 | um- | 633.6556 |
527 | | 633.8235 | She- | 634.5789 |
529 | | 636.2331 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/- /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was a family, | 637.9257 |
530 | DCB_int_01 | 638.3920 | [Mm.] | 638.7480 |
531 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 638.4013 | [and I was] there for eight years cause I started pre K all the way through sixth grade. | 641.9125 |
532 | DCB_int_01 | 642.0745 | Hm. | 642.3776 |
533 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 642.7227 | And so | 643.6273 |
535 | | 644.1569 | I spent a lot of time with both- | 645.4598 |
537 | | 645.6463 | both of them. | 646.2245 |
539 | | 646.5416 | And so when he left, and she stepped in, there was a natural | 649.0677 |
541 | | 649.5807 | transition. | 650.4153 |
543 | | 650.6205 | So much so, that when I went | 652.4157 |
545 | | 652.9146 | to /RD-SCHOOL-5/ University after graduating high school | 655.7299 |
547 | | 656.1169 | and was not prepared to go away to school, was not prepared for college life, and told my mom, | 660.2191 |
549 | | 660.6248 | excuse my language, you have to come get me the hell out of here, | 662.9795 |
551 | | 663.5624 | I came back home. | 664.7188 |
553 | | 665.3483 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was the first place that I went. | 666.7460 |
555 | | 667.1517 | And Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/, who was still the principal said, | 669.1381 |
557 | | 669.4272 | come on, we gonna give you a job, and we gonna help you sort it out. | 671.7866 |
559 | | 672.2517 | First time I worked- | 673.0631 |
561 | | 673.5200 | had a- had a- other than like a summer job, had a working job, | 676.4250 |
563 | | 676.6255 | and I was the office clerk | 677.6840 |
565 | | 678.2471 | at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 678.8288 |
567 | | 679.3102 | But it was there | 680.4383 |
569 | | 680.9655 | that I learned | 682.1610 |
571 | | 683.2690 | that I had this thing in me to work with kids | 685.5633 |
573 | | 686.4153 | because in the office, | 687.6883 |
575 | | 687.8328 | teachers would send | 688.8354 |
577 | | 689.5348 | the bad | 690.2004 |
578 | DCB_int_01 | 690.2051 | The [kid, yeah.] | 691.3642 |
579 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 690.6154 | [children.] | 691.0491 |
580 | | 691.7718 | And so out of that, | 692.7883 |
582 | | 693.1474 | was born the Conflict Resolution and Peer Mediation Program | 696.2330 |
584 | | 696.4232 | at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 697.0484 |
586 | | 697.5014 | and Peace Day and the Peace March and the Peace Rally | 701.0172 |
588 | | 701.3296 | in our community. | 702.2098 |
590 | | 702.6994 | [And-] | 703.2776 |
591 | DCB_int_01 | 702.6994 | [Why did I not-] Why am I [surpri- or not surprised that you had a hand] in that. | 706.4017 |
592 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 703.9304 | [<laugh>] | 705.9479 |
593 | | 706.4390 | <laugh> | 706.9566 |
594 | DCB_int_01 | 706.9693 | Like, why? | 707.5022 |
595 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 707.6094 | But I mean, it goes back- even when I- when we graduated my sixth grade year, I got prin- the principal's award from Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ and when she made her remarks- and I'll never forget this- she said I was the only student who- who had ever written her a memo. | 717.5018 |
597 | | 718.4530 | Sixth grade, wrote her a memo cause we wanted to do a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles play | 722.1262 |
599 | | 722.6065 | at school. And I wrote out the schedule, and this is what we wanna do. Do we have your approval? | 727.1796 |
601 | | 727.9817 | And so it was the only child that had ever written her a memo. | 729.7489 |
603 | | 730.4856 | Um, | 730.9613 |
605 | | 731.3191 | so all- it- there was a- | 732.9372 |
607 | | 734.0143 | I understood then | 735.2127 |
609 | | 735.4645 | what community looked like | 736.7095 |
611 | | 737.0642 | and what a school | 738.1083 |
613 | | 738.8532 | should [look like.] | 739.4534 |
614 | DCB_int_01 | 739.0870 | [Look like.] | 739.4548 |
615 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 739.7159 | A | 739.8931 |
617 | | 740.0796 | school that was a hub in the community. | 741.9681 |
619 | | 742.4530 | Oddly enough, | 743.3203 |
621 | | 743.5907 | right across from the school was Tabernacle Baptist Church, | 746.2195 |
623 | | 746.7790 | which is where | 747.5857 |
625 | | 748.8960 | before and after care, vacation bible school, summer camp- | 751.5620 |
627 | | 753.7862 | I'm forgetting something else. | 754.7561 |
629 | | 755.5441 | All- all of that | 756.5500 |
631 | | 757.1470 | happened at the same time, so I started pre school, | 759.9774 |
633 | | 760.4064 | at Tabernacle's Child Development Center at three. | 763.0584 |
635 | | 763.7345 | And so it was a natural- They had a great partnership with /RD-SCHOOL-2/, so you had | 767.1618 |
637 | | 767.6001 | these two entities in this community, | 769.8091 |
639 | | 769.9956 | church and school, | 771.0028 |
641 | | 771.9447 | that was this beautiful picture, | 773.5255 |
643 | | 773.8274 | and | 774.4382 |
645 | | 775.7858 | you know, all of that stayed with me today and what community should look like, so. | 779.2224 |
647 | | 779.5534 | And I still /have-/ | 780.1923 |
649 | | 780.5222 | Now, /RD-SCHOOl-2/ has changed, broke my heart. | 782.7697 |
651 | | 783.1008 | When I went back, | 784.0753 |
653 | | 784.4903 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was the la- one of the last open space schools | 787.9516 |
655 | | 788.4246 | in DC to be converted | 790.0985 |
657 | | 790.3691 | to rooms. | 791.3243 |
659 | | 792.3030 | Um, | 792.7227 |
661 | | 793.2169 | I was fine with the open space school. We learned great. | 796.0007 |
663 | | 796.2720 | Apparently, | 796.8400 |
665 | | 796.9892 | children today don't do so well | 798.5500 |
666 | DCB_int_01 | 798.7273 | Right. | 799.0258 |
667 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 798.9838 | and | 799.4967 |
668 | | 800.0003 | children don't do so well | 801.2360 |
670 | | 801.3712 | in um- | 802.7328 |
671 | DCB_int_01 | 803.0965 | We had a open space high school, and it was- | 805.1050 |
673 | | 805.6506 | [but-] | 805.9863 |
674 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 805.6974 | [It's-] | 805.9123 |
675 | | 806.7417 | Yeah, different- different strokes, different folks, I guess. | 808.9240 |
677 | | 809.8985 | But um, | 810.5500 |
679 | | 811.0398 | now they have | 812.5738 |
681 | | 812.8023 | um, | 813.3386 |
683 | | 814.1639 | closed it in. | 814.8447 |
685 | | 815.3949 | There's new leadership, | 816.2762 |
687 | | 816.9139 | but when I walked | 818.1215 |
689 | | 818.4899 | into- and I had gone back a couple times. | 820.8913 |
690 | DCB_int_01 | 820.9222 | Mm-hm. | 821.1929 |
691 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 821.2131 | I went- so, | 822.1270 |
693 | | 822.4382 | I went back to work there. | 823.8185 |
695 | | 824.7277 | Uh, I worked there for two years, | 827.0545 |
697 | | 827.8367 | and then I went back to s- went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Community College full time. | 830.8023 |
699 | | 831.3292 | But when I uh, | 832.5882 |
701 | | 832.8913 | <laugh> needed some money, she said- Mrs. /RD-SCHOOL-2/ said, come on back. [You can] work and go to [school.] | 836.3221 |
702 | DCB_int_01 | 835.1843 | [<laugh>] | 835.3708 |
704 | | 836.1021 | [<laugh>] | 836.2287 |
705 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 836.6251 | So I worked there total for four years, | 838.2618 |
707 | | 838.4670 | and you know, enjoyed it, | 839.8052 |
709 | | 840.4009 | great starting pl- point for me. | 842.0283 |
711 | | 842.4060 | Um, | 842.9609 |
713 | | 843.8188 | but when I went back, | 845.3902 |
715 | | 845.9684 | maybe within the last | 847.1563 |
717 | | 847.4221 | three or four years, | 848.6624 |
719 | | 848.9922 | it's a different place. | 849.8515 |
721 | | 851.1151 | And I knew it was different from the moment I walked on the- the grounds. | 854.1589 |
723 | | 854.4666 | When you come up Division Avenue, there's- there's- uh- You're coming up Division from Eastern, | 858.8066 |
725 | | 859.1423 | and when you get to the apex of the hill, the school is like, right there [as you're coming] down. | 862.7561 |
726 | DCB_int_01 | 861.9308 | [Mm.] | 862.1965 |
727 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 863.1618 | And so there's this big open area walkway, and these big steps that walk down. | 866.8676 |
729 | | 867.3899 | When you can walk on a property, | 868.7048 |
731 | | 868.9053 | and feel | 869.9871 |
733 | | 871.3662 | different, | 871.8418 |
735 | | 872.4293 | [like], | 872.9142 |
736 | DCB_int_01 | 872.4433 | [You know.] [Mm.] | 873.5344 |
737 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 873.3479 | [so] this not my school. | 874.5602 |
738 | | 875.8414 | [And as I walked-] | 876.6508 |
739 | DCB_int_01 | 875.8554 | [Why do you think it's different?] | 876.9048 |
740 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 877.4921 | People are different. | 878.3407 |
741 | DCB_int_01 | 878.3967 | Yeah- well, | 879.0448 |
743 | | 879.5158 | I think that's a lot of [places.] | 880.8400 |
744 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 880.3807 | [The people] are different. And there- there are a couple of teachers who are there that I worked with. | 884.1589 |
745 | | 884.7977 | There's maybe one or two that were there as- that who taught me, | 887.9918 |
747 | | 888.7040 | but it's a different | 889.9210 |
749 | | 890.7184 | mindset from the people within the building | 892.5649 |
751 | | 893.4229 | and then the people that are coming into the building. [And-] | 895.5946 |
752 | DCB_int_01 | 895.1563 | [Do you feel like] the pride is different? There's a la- [sig- lack] of- [lack of?] Mm. | 899.0172 |
753 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 896.9282 | [There's no pride.] | 897.5997 |
755 | | 898.0007 | [Yeah.] | 898.4530 |
756 | | 899.2816 | The um- | 900.0885 |
758 | | 901.1890 | the days of Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ and Miss /RD-NAME-2/, I mean everybody | 903.8655 |
760 | | 904.3691 | took pride | 905.1618 |
762 | | 905.4275 | in /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 906.1864 |
764 | | 906.3590 | I mean, awards all over the place. | 908.2521 |
766 | | 908.7324 | Visits all over the place. [When you] walked in, there was a sense that | 912.3042 |
767 | DCB_int_01 | 910.3731 | [Mm.] | 910.6917 |
768 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 913.1284 | these children knew. | 914.3684 |
770 | | 915.0541 | And you were- | 915.6696 |
772 | | 916.1033 | you were expected. | 917.1952 |
774 | | 917.7260 | It- it was /RD-NAME-2/ ish. | 919.5713 |
775 | DCB_int_01 | 919.6599 | Mm-hm. | 920.0436 |
776 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 920.0990 | In kindergarten, you were expected | 922.0706 |
778 | | 922.1825 | to | 922.6069 |
780 | | 923.0592 | carry yourself a certain way, | 924.6900 |
782 | | 925.1610 | and you know, without- | 926.7650 |
784 | | 927.6603 | without reminding you to- | 928.7747 |
786 | | 928.8913 | reminding you that you were a black | 930.8113 |
788 | | 931.1004 | youth, | 931.5946 |
790 | | 932.0749 | Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ gave you the type of pride that said to you as a black youth, pick your head up. As a black [youth] | 937.4081 |
791 | DCB_int_01 | 937.2356 | [Mm.] | 937.5760 |
792 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 937.9770 | you know, speak this way, carry yourself this way, without ever | 941.1711 |
794 | | 941.6560 | saying, hey, you black boy. | 943.1187 |
796 | | 943.5527 | He just | 944.0889 |
798 | | 944.7930 | exuded what | 945.9960 |
800 | | 946.3224 | it looked like. | 947.0872 |
802 | | 947.6840 | Uh, we had character and values assemblies where we talked about truth and honesty. | 953.0371 |
804 | | 953.6047 | Um, | 954.0652 |
806 | | 955.1190 | third grade, my teacher looked at me and said, you're gonna do the I Have A Dream speech | 958.8260 |
808 | | 959.2166 | for MLK. | 960.1829 |
810 | | 960.4056 | Okay, | 960.9232 |
812 | | 961.1050 | cool. | 961.5294 |
814 | | 962.1542 | Um, | 962.6811 |
816 | | 963.4979 | I mean there were moments like that, [that gave] you | 966.3963 |
817 | DCB_int_01 | 965.1609 | [Mm.] | 965.6382 |
818 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 966.8019 | the type of confidence. You know, I stepped it on the little stool. She said, when you stand up there, you wait for everybody to be quiet. And my mother will tell you just- I stood there almost a minute. | 974.5878 |
820 | | 975.6883 | Third grade, stood there with my little suit on. | 977.7166 |
822 | | 978.0093 | Almost a minute. | 978.7413 |
824 | | 979.2309 | Until everybody stopped talking. | 981.0466 |
826 | | 981.1520 | Cause that's what Miss /RD-NAME-2/, my third grade teacher said. Don't open your mouth | 984.0943 |
828 | | 984.4802 | until everybody stops talking. | 985.7625 |
830 | | 986.0190 | Almost a minute. | 986.6969 |
832 | | 988.1546 | I say to you today- and somebody has a recording, we can't find out who it is. Somebody has a recording | 993.5018 |
834 | | 994.0380 | of that. | 994.4623 |
836 | | 994.5882 | But the- the sense of pride and awareness | 997.1610 |
838 | | 997.4314 | that that gave me | 998.5692 |
839 | DCB_int_01 | 998.7557 | [Mm-hm.] | 999.1101 |
840 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 998.9609 | [has] stayed with me | 1000.5602 |
841 | DCB_int_01 | 1000.6861 | [Mm-hm.] | 1001.1198 |
842 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1000.9939 | [to] this day. | 1001.7446 |
843 | | 1002.0384 | These people /trug/ me all across the city to the point- | 1004.9422 |
845 | | 1005.4085 | I said, I love Doctor King, but I don't want to have this dream [anymore.] I don't want to say this speech no [more. This man] getting ready to come out his grave and tell me to be [quiet] | 1012.5183 |
846 | DCB_int_01 | 1008.0652 | [<laugh>] | 1008.2424 |
848 | | 1009.4741 | [<laugh>] | 1010.1402 |
850 | | 1012.3038 | [<laugh>] | 1012.7095 |
851 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1012.9706 | and s- read somebody else's words. | 1014.7134 |
853 | | 1015.2682 | But it built something in me | 1016.9469 |
855 | | 1017.3572 | um, | 1018.0333 |
857 | | 1019.3063 | that I don't- | 1019.8425 |
859 | | 1020.1305 | we don't- it's not there. That | 1021.6366 |
861 | | 1021.8371 | energy is not there in that school anymore. | 1023.7349 |
862 | DCB_int_01 | 1024.2251 | [Mm.] | 1024.5798 |
863 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1024.4017 | [And I] walked around and- and | 1025.6374 |
864 | | 1026.1678 | you just didn't feel it. | 1026.9045 |
865 | DCB_int_01 | 1027.0071 | You didn't feel it. | 1027.6133 |
866 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1027.6180 | Mm-mm. | 1028.0236 |
867 | DCB_int_01 | 1028.1029 | Where'd you go after /RD-SCHOOL-2/? | 1029.2966 |
868 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1029.6696 | Um, so I- I actually went legit and went to Prince George's County [schools.] | 1033.6086 |
869 | DCB_int_01 | 1033.2030 | [<laugh>] | 1033.7252 |
870 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1034.2148 | Um, | 1034.7697 |
872 | | 1035.3106 | I [auditioned for-] | 1036.3924 |
873 | DCB_int_01 | 1035.5577 | [No longer going] rogue. | 1037.0326 |
874 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1037.0093 | No. No more rogue- no more- I'm telling you, DCPS is gonna track me down and send me like a eighty thousand dollar tuition bill | 1042.1047 |
875 | | 1042.6968 | uh, for eight years of school there. | 1044.2869 |
877 | | 1044.6786 | Um, | 1045.2008 |
879 | | 1045.4340 | but I went to- | 1046.1987 |
881 | | 1046.4820 | I auditioned for /RD-SCHOOL-4/. | 1047.8808 |
883 | | 1048.2772 | It was a magnet school, | 1049.2797 |
885 | | 1049.8719 | and- cause I was, you know, in my art world and been introduced to all these things at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 1054.5150 |
887 | | 1054.9296 | and I wanted to do theater and | 1056.1967 |
889 | | 1056.7035 | all of that. | 1057.2273 |
891 | | 1058.0272 | And /RD-SCHOOL-4/ said, yeah, your audition- | 1060.2005 |
893 | | 1060.5969 | Your Raisin in the Sun monologue was cute. But we good. We don't want you to come to our school. | 1064.3387 |
895 | | 1064.4732 | I said, okay. | 1065.0820 |
897 | | 1065.8182 | [Um-] | 1066.4199 |
898 | DCB_int_01 | 1066.2138 | [Which] monologue did you do? | 1067.1380 |
899 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1067.6375 | I did uh, | 1068.6356 |
901 | | 1068.9654 | mama I want- | 1069.7724 |
903 | | 1069.9140 | I- It's okay. I want her to have some pearls. | 1072.0872 |
905 | | 1072.5261 | [I- it's-] what's wrong with [my wife can't have pearls.] | 1075.0999 |
906 | DCB_int_01 | 1072.5400 | [Mm.] | 1072.7885 |
908 | | 1073.6311 | [My wife having some pearls.] | 1075.1144 |
909 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1075.8219 | So, did it and poured my little heart out, | 1077.7970 |
911 | | 1078.0447 | didn't get into /RD-SCHOOL-2/. I ended up going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 1080.5153 |
913 | | 1081.0433 | Um, | 1081.6804 |
915 | | 1082.0272 | right in like, Largo, in that area. | 1084.1520 |
916 | DCB_int_01 | 1084.1400 | Mm. [Mm-hm.] | 1085.3515 |
917 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1084.5969 | [And um,] | 1085.3543 |
918 | | 1085.6516 | I guess- | 1085.9985 |
920 | | 1086.4557 | /Damn/- I guess I was a little rogue there too | 1088.0272 |
922 | | 1088.3245 | cause it | 1088.6785 |
924 | | 1088.8625 | wasn't my neighborhood school so we used my cousin's address. | 1091.5030 |
925 | DCB_int_01 | 1091.5420 | <laugh> | 1092.0420 |
926 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1092.0062 | Hope I ain't get nobody in trouble by saying this, but | 1093.8219 |
927 | | 1094.0877 | anyway, | 1094.4520 |
929 | | 1094.9145 | went there, and still had- but it was the place I was supposed to [be.] | 1097.8569 |
930 | DCB_int_01 | 1097.6181 | [Be.] | 1097.8717 |
931 | | 1098.4557 | And [why you say] that? | 1099.1778 |
932 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1098.5902 | [Be.] | 1098.8875 |
933 | | 1099.2627 | Um, | 1099.9524 |
935 | | 1101.0678 | It was- I had a more authentic experience, | 1102.7385 |
937 | | 1103.1585 | and I j- I jokingly talk about /RD-SCHOOL-2/ p- you know, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ taught you | 1106.3679 |
939 | | 1106.7269 | the theater where you | 1107.6702 |
941 | | 1107.9377 | perform with your hands. Look the sun | 1109.8479 |
943 | | 1110.2210 | is in the sky. It shines on the flower. | 1113.3253 |
945 | | 1113.7124 | And all that, you know. I had a different experience at- at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. I grew as a leader, | 1118.2553 |
947 | | 1118.7832 | and again a principal. I had a- I ha- there was a culture in that school | 1122.5025 |
949 | | 1123.2980 | that was different, | 1124.0300 |
951 | | 1124.2412 | that was nurturing. | 1125.1915 |
953 | | 1125.4590 | Uh, /RD-NAME-6/ was my seventh grade principal. | 1128.1583 |
955 | | 1128.5448 | /RD-NAME-5/. | 1130.1853 |
957 | | 1130.4524 | Doctor /RD-NAME-5/ was my eighth grade principal. | 1132.9117 |
959 | | 1133.6156 | She didn't take no stuff. | 1134.6715 |
961 | | 1134.9671 | Uh, and at a point where I was starting to, I guess, feel myself | 1137.6772 |
963 | | 1138.1374 | a little bit, she helped get that | 1139.5452 |
965 | | 1139.9816 | [in line.] | 1140.6644 |
966 | DCB_int_01 | 1139.9957 | [Mm.] | 1140.2884 |
967 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1141.3543 | Um, | 1141.8189 |
969 | | 1141.9878 | but again, nurtured opportunity | 1143.9095 |
970 | DCB_int_01 | 1143.9259 | [Mm.] | 1144.2734 |
971 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1144.1444 | [for] me | 1144.6724 |
972 | | 1145.2566 | to lead, to speak, | 1146.8615 |
974 | | 1147.7344 | et cetera, to do these things that I try to help give kids now, that I love | 1152.1365 |
976 | | 1152.3054 | you know, doing so much with 'em now. | 1153.7626 |
978 | | 1154.3750 | Um, | 1154.8466 |
980 | | 1155.7546 | and then because of the art experience there, I was ready to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ gr- uh, | 1159.5795 |
982 | | 1160.9240 | interview for /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School. | 1162.1840 |
984 | | 1162.5175 | Got into the both- | 1163.5382 |
986 | | 1163.9112 | the theater and the TV production apart- departments. | 1166.1497 |
987 | DCB_int_01 | 1166.5087 | I'm not [surprised] | 1167.6139 |
988 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1167.3604 | [<laugh>] | 1168.3486 |
989 | DCB_int_01 | 1167.8488 | [at either of] those. | 1168.7498 |
990 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1168.7712 | Yup. | 1169.0060 |
992 | | 1169.1943 | Stuck with theater, | 1170.2632 |
994 | | 1170.4040 | um, loved it. | 1171.6992 |
996 | | 1172.3679 | Um, | 1172.9733 |
998 | | 1173.2901 | but got to my junior year | 1175.0032 |
1000 | | 1175.6015 | and realized that my life was not gonna be an artist- I wasn't gonna be- live a life as an artist. | 1181.0595 |
1002 | | 1181.5523 | And I loved everything that- from that point, | 1183.9315 |
1004 | | 1185.8321 | dance, vocal music, | 1187.5874 |
1006 | | 1188.0591 | theater, everything that it had taught me. | 1189.7626 |
1008 | | 1189.9385 | Discipline, | 1190.5932 |
1010 | | 1191.1985 | expression, | 1192.1348 |
1012 | | 1193.1651 | pride, | 1193.8294 |
1014 | | 1194.1717 | all of that was great, but I realize | 1196.1990 |
1016 | | 1196.5369 | it was not gonna be my life. I'm not going to Broadway. I'm not- | 1199.2284 |
1017 | DCB_int_01 | 1199.2003 | <laugh> | 1200.0566 |
1018 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1200.0732 | This is not what I'm gonna do. Uh, I ain't about that life. | 1202.2623 |
1020 | | 1202.5157 | But this was also around the time where I was wrestling with my call to ministry | 1206.2210 |
1022 | | 1206.9108 | and having all these spiritual moments | 1209.9236 |
1023 | DCB_int_01 | 1209.9799 | Mm-hm. | 1210.5537 |
1024 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1210.5034 | and you know, from the Bible that fell off my shelf | 1213.6288 |
1025 | | 1214.1427 | and the fell open to Jeremiah chapter one, and I know the path that I have for you, | 1219.6288 |
1027 | | 1219.8963 | thoughts to prosper you, and I'm like, I don't know what that means. | 1222.4330 |
1029 | | 1222.9187 | And had grown up in church, and but still just wrestling with all of that, [so] | 1226.0652 |
1030 | DCB_int_01 | 1225.7062 | [Mm-hm.] | 1226.1638 |
1031 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1226.7762 | now the | 1227.6561 |
1033 | | 1228.4471 | path was turning from art to, | 1230.2139 |
1035 | | 1230.5166 | alright, let's go save the world. | 1231.8611 |
1037 | | 1232.4383 | Let's go, you know- we gonna go preach the word. | 1234.4726 |
1039 | | 1235.1792 | So much so that in my eleventh grade year, I completely lost my mind and thought that I was gonna save the world | 1240.2032 |
1041 | | 1240.5175 | with a one point oh GPA. | 1242.3899 |
1043 | | 1243.5584 | Yeah, junior year was my rough year. I went from a | 1245.9940 |
1045 | | 1246.9469 | two two | 1247.7423 |
1047 | | 1248.1224 | to a one three | 1249.1783 |
1049 | | 1249.8048 | to a one point oh. | 1251.0859 |
1051 | | 1252.0881 | And the fear of God through my five foot mother, | 1255.7088 |
1053 | | 1256.3820 | <ts> said, let it drop again. | 1258.0081 |
1055 | | 1258.8835 | And at the time was trying to start | 1260.6152 |
1057 | | 1261.0657 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/'s first Christian Club. We gonna start the Christian Club! | 1263.7969 |
1059 | | 1264.2289 | And my mother- And again, another- | 1266.5237 |
1061 | | 1266.9179 | I've been surrounded my great women, | 1268.3468 |
1063 | | 1269.0578 | present company included. | 1270.0081 |
1064 | DCB_int_01 | 1270.3301 | <ts> [Thank you.] | 1271.0275 |
1065 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1270.7668 | [Um,] | 1271.4044 |
1066 | | 1272.0950 | Doctor | 1273.0023 |
1068 | | 1273.4517 | /RD-NAME-5/ | 1274.4946 |
1070 | | 1274.7692 | was my | 1275.3675 |
1072 | | 1276.2755 | tenth through twelfth grade principal at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 1278.2562 |
1074 | | 1278.9812 | And I remember the day sitting in her office in- | 1281.0484 |
1076 | | 1281.2541 | with my mother. | 1281.8980 |
1078 | | 1282.3978 | What- what Christian Club you starting, | 1283.6930 |
1079 | DCB_int_01 | 1284.5237 | [<laugh>] | 1285.9458 |
1080 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1284.9038 | [<laugh> with that.] That's not gonna work. | 1287.0296 |
1081 | DCB_int_01 | 1287.9121 | [Jesus ain't nowhere in that is he? mm-mm.] | 1290.2843 |
1082 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1287.9262 | [And so-] | 1288.6935 |
1084 | | 1288.9226 | [No, he wasn't.] | 1289.9253 |
1086 | | 1290.1858 | [Mm-mm.] I think he was sitting over in the corner just you know sipping his tea or- or [saying no, or-] | 1294.5641 |
1087 | DCB_int_01 | 1293.7291 | [<laugh>] With them loa- with them wafers. | 1295.8517 |
1088 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1295.8972 | Mm- [With them wafers. He was] breaking bread [for me, and] he was getting that cup together cause I needed something. | 1300.8402 |
1089 | DCB_int_01 | 1296.1365 | [Mm-mm.] | 1297.0798 |
1091 | | 1297.7907 | [<laugh>] | 1298.4876 |
1092 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1301.4396 | Um, and I think everybody has that moment | 1303.5514 |
1094 | | 1304.1286 | but | 1304.5087 |
1096 | | 1304.6988 | that just was where mine was, and I was just gung ho. | 1307.0595 |
1098 | | 1307.4537 | I was making, and I still have them. I have to | 1309.4599 |
1100 | | 1309.7414 | bring you one. | 1310.1990 |
1102 | | 1310.7340 | These things called spiritual vitamin. | 1312.4586 |
1104 | | 1312.9046 | I mean I was serious. I was gonna be- It was me | 1314.8545 |
1106 | | 1315.1853 | and my little purple Bible that fell off the shelf and the Lord and we was gonna go save | 1319.4044 |
1108 | | 1319.7705 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School. | 1320.6614 |
1110 | | 1321.1431 | Um, and every night- my mama bought me a- this a old Apple, | 1325.0524 |
1112 | | 1325.2918 | old, like old- the little box Apple computer | 1327.8215 |
1114 | | 1328.1849 | that had the rainbow apple on it. | 1329.6843 |
1116 | | 1329.8431 | Funny, | 1330.1303 |
1118 | | 1330.6160 | the irony of that. | 1331.5663 |
1120 | | 1332.3125 | Um, | 1332.8999 |
1121 | DCB_int_01 | 1333.2909 | [<laugh>] | 1336.2569 |
1122 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1334.1708 | [<laugh>] | 1335.8277 |
1123 | | 1336.8413 | [So I would print- <laugh>] | 1338.6292 |
1124 | DCB_int_01 | 1337.0384 | [I love you /RD-NAME-2/. I love] you. | 1339.1149 |
1125 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1339.4247 | I would print these- I made these little things on Print Shop, | 1342.1444 |
1127 | | 1342.8413 | and there was a little greeting card thing, but it was a spiritual vitamin. And every- on the front, | 1347.0437 |
1129 | | 1347.7432 | it said, | 1348.4893 |
1131 | | 1348.7920 | You were- you were destined for greatness. | 1351.1361 |
1133 | | 1351.6358 | Here's your daily spiritual vit- I was | 1353.4238 |
1135 | | 1353.6702 | proud of my title. /unintelligible/ Here's your daily spiritual vitamin from Minister /RD-NAME-4/. | 1358.0089 |
1137 | | 1358.3398 | I'd started a group from New Faith [Ministries.] | 1361.4255 |
1138 | DCB_int_01 | 1360.5949 | [<laugh>] | 1361.4819 |
1139 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1361.8409 | I had the date [on it.] I put little star stickers on it. | 1365.5998 |
1140 | DCB_int_01 | 1362.5190 | [<laugh>] | 1363.0417 |
1141 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1366.0459 | and inside, there will be a scripture at the top and a little message. It was like the little daily bread, | 1370.5650 |
1143 | | 1371.1634 | and on the back I'd have a [little quote.] | 1372.7558 |
1144 | DCB_int_01 | 1372.1655 | [Like the little people] at the Metro giving out a little [card.] | 1374.6110 |
1145 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1374.0520 | [Passing 'em out.] | 1374.7278 |
1146 | | 1375.0094 | E- Every morning, my junior, my senior year. And people got mad | 1379.1369 |
1148 | | 1379.5874 | when I ran out. They- I mean, were [upset, teachers and students.] | 1383.2272 |
1149 | DCB_int_01 | 1381.7344 | [Oh wow, you had a following.] | 1383.6112 |
1150 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1383.6182 | We had the, you know, and it was- And I didn't realize until | 1386.7185 |
1152 | | 1387.1994 | I graduated | 1388.2975 |
1154 | | 1389.2689 | how- | 1389.6289 |
1156 | | 1389.8172 | what the impact was. | 1390.9187 |
1158 | | 1391.2918 | And not until a year ago, | 1392.9179 |
1160 | | 1393.5232 | one of my friends took a picture | 1395.1422 |
1162 | | 1395.5223 | of one she kept from the last- my last day. | 1398.2280 |
1164 | | 1398.6433 | Last day I did a whole sheet. | 1400.1227 |
1165 | DCB_int_01 | 1400.1356 | <laugh> You had [to give the-] | 1401.6014 |
1166 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1401.0437 | [I said we gonna] go out in style. | 1402.7558 |
1167 | | 1403.4326 | And she took a picture that she still had it, | 1405.4147 |
1169 | | 1406.1356 | and posted it on Facebook, and she's like, I still have this. Remember you know, when we- when you did these. | 1410.4814 |
1171 | | 1410.8545 | That you know- that m- made a difference. Blah blah blah blah blah. | 1413.3068 |
1173 | | 1414.7427 | So I think it was around that time I was really grappling with, | 1417.1220 |
1175 | | 1417.6570 | Yeah, art thing is cool but that's not what I wanna do. | 1420.5034 |
1177 | | 1420.6794 | I want to help people. | 1422.0239 |
1179 | | 1422.4110 | Um, | 1422.8827 |
1181 | | 1424.5228 | and that's, you know, that's kind of where my head was even when I graduated. | 1428.1607 |
1183 | | 1428.5096 | And I think cause I grappled with that so much I didn't know what I wanted to do was- when I got to | 1432.8343 |
1185 | | 1433.3692 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/ I was like all over the place, like | 1435.6733 |
1186 | DCB_int_01 | 1435.6250 | Mm. | 1435.9393 |
1187 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1436.5298 | okay. | 1436.9803 |
1189 | | 1437.4097 | I went down there a little happy [Christian.] | 1438.9768 |
1190 | DCB_int_01 | 1438.6301 | [But aren't] there theological- Isn't it a [theological school?] That's what- okay. | 1441.6781 |
1191 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1440.3266 | [Mm-hm.] | 1441.0586 |
1192 | | 1441.6851 | Mm-hm. | 1442.2694 |
1194 | | 1442.5509 | But see- and the- and the other side of this was [much as I was doing all that], | 1445.3758 |
1195 | DCB_int_01 | 1444.4049 | [Well that's more] theoretical, [theological as] well. | 1447.1994 |
1196 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1446.3477 | [Yeah.] | 1446.6917 |
1197 | | 1447.2065 | And I was a little rebel. | 1448.0793 |
1199 | | 1448.4102 | I was a little rebel. I never [liked-] | 1449.9165 |
1200 | DCB_int_01 | 1449.5294 | [Obviously. Using people's address and stuff, right. | 1452.2843 |
1201 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1450.5146 | [Little bit still are. <laugh>] | 1452.2773 |
1202 | | 1453.0375 | I didn't w- I didn't- | 1454.2764 |
1204 | | 1455.6631 | I didn't- as much as I grew up in the church, | 1457.4255 |
1206 | | 1457.6156 | I didn't want | 1458.3970 |
1208 | | 1458.9249 | to be | 1459.7203 |
1210 | | 1459.9174 | churchy. | 1460.5316 |
1212 | | 1461.5320 | And even it's gotten- | 1462.5597 |
1214 | | 1463.0243 | I don't wanna say worse, but it's gotten worse now, | 1464.8263 |
1216 | | 1465.0798 | and I didn't want- | 1465.8893 |
1218 | | 1466.3186 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/ is where black Baptist preachers go for school. | 1469.6226 |
1219 | DCB_int_01 | 1469.7775 | Mm-hm. | 1470.1362 |
1220 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1470.1365 | You are a black Baptist preacher, you go to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 1472.5791 |
1222 | | 1472.7973 | You don't go anywhere else. | 1473.6561 |
1224 | | 1474.4119 | And that- | 1474.9470 |
1226 | | 1475.8761 | I didn't want that. | 1476.5518 |
1227 | DCB_int_01 | 1477.9033 | [How'd you end up there?] | 1478.9170 |
1228 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1478.1075 | [I didn't want that.] | 1478.7351 |
1229 | DCB_int_01 | 1479.9940 | Cause you wanted to be the black Baptist /trea/- | 1481.5311 |
1231 | | 1481.7212 | preacher but not really? | 1482.8590 |
1232 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1482.8860 | Yeah. | 1483.3754 |
1234 | | 1483.5584 | And I don't- | 1484.0090 |
1236 | | 1484.1460 | It's funny. I don't even remember who | 1486.0644 |
1238 | | 1486.8765 | suggested it, | 1487.7564 |
1240 | | 1487.9535 | but I went for a visit and went- It was a nice school. | 1490.2342 |
1242 | | 1490.6847 | Nice campus, it was small enough. I didn't wanna do a big school. | 1493.3311 |
1244 | | 1494.0591 | Uh, as crazy as I am, I'm still very much a introvert, | 1496.8747 |
1246 | | 1497.4168 | so the idea of a big campus freaked me out. | 1499.3225 |
1247 | DCB_int_01 | 1499.3692 | What color are you? | 1500.1013 |
1248 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1501.2276 | Green. | 1501.6781 |
1250 | | 1502.5721 | Yeah. | 1502.8395 |
1251 | DCB_int_01 | 1503.5435 | What's your second color? | 1504.2826 |
1252 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1504.7216 | Blue. | 1504.9398 |
1253 | DCB_int_01 | 1505.1158 | Mm-hm. | 1505.6015 |
1254 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1505.6930 | Yeah. | 1505.9394 |
1255 | DCB_int_01 | 1506.0380 | Yup. | 1506.2632 |
1256 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1506.8967 | So I didn't wanna go to- like, they were like, you can go to VCU. | 1508.9803 |
1258 | | 1509.1601 | Ooh. | 1509.7200 |
1260 | | 1509.8742 | That was- | 1510.5290 |
1262 | | 1510.7498 | and I remember walking | 1511.6792 |
1264 | | 1512.3477 | up Broad Street from /RD-SCHOOL-5/ | 1514.2967 |
1266 | | 1514.4454 | to VCU on some days. | 1516.4374 |
1268 | | 1517.2487 | Too much. | 1517.7142 |
1270 | | 1518.5589 | Too much. Cause | 1519.3754 |
1272 | | 1521.0507 | I don't know. I'm- I'm introvert- And I'm realizing more and more what- /that does not-/ | 1524.1928 |
1274 | | 1524.9671 | that's not shy, that there's a difference of [what that-] | 1527.2062 |
1275 | DCB_int_01 | 1526.7903 | [Right.] | 1527.1070 |
1276 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1527.6913 | You know [it really mean-] | 1528.4488 |
1277 | DCB_int_01 | 1527.8814 | [It's just the way] you charge. I think I have learned that I'm more introverted too like, | 1532.1849 |
1278 | | 1532.7340 | extroverts really feed off people, | 1534.8061 |
1279 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1534.8624 | Yeah. | 1535.1158 |
1280 | DCB_int_01 | 1535.2988 | and they need that to like, charge them whereas introverts, you can still be very- but at the end of the day you need to recharge [by being] alone. | 1541.7214 |
1281 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1540.8261 | [Yup.] | 1541.1721 |
1282 | | 1541.7798 | Yup. | 1541.9534 |
1283 | DCB_int_01 | 1542.2491 | And I realize I'm very much that. | 1543.8329 |
1284 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1543.8400 | Yup. | 1544.0441 |
1285 | DCB_int_01 | 1544.1427 | Like I can be Miss sunshine at the office, but when I go home, | 1546.7558 |
1286 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1546.7272 | Mm-hm. | 1547.0947 |
1287 | DCB_int_01 | 1547.2566 | I just need it like- | 1548.2280 |
1288 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1548.2091 | Yeah. | 1548.5237 |
1289 | DCB_int_01 | 1548.5729 | I- I play my TV with like, the captions, so I can have the volume really low. [Like I don't] need all that. | 1552.6416 |
1290 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1551.6702 | [Yeah.] | 1552.1845 |
1291 | | 1552.8554 | The noise. | 1553.3270 |
1293 | | 1553.5945 | The people meter. When- And I know- | 1555.3965 |
1295 | | 1555.8611 | I know when my people meter is getting low. | 1558.4938 |
1296 | DCB_int_01 | 1558.5456 | Mm-hm. | 1559.0173 |
1297 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1559.0243 | And I tell the teachers a lot, um, okay, if we doing drop offs, then we need to go ahead and go now cause in about a hour, | 1564.9258 |
1299 | | 1565.3340 | I don't need to be around people. | 1566.5377 |
1301 | | 1566.7208 | And it's not personal. As now that- that meter's gonna be at zero | 1570.3037 |
1303 | | 1570.7850 | and either, one, you're not gonna like me, | 1572.9390 |
1305 | | 1573.5443 | um, | 1574.1708 |
1307 | | 1574.6073 | or you probably not gonna like me. | 1576.0503 |
1309 | | 1576.2500 | And | 1576.6583 |
1311 | | 1576.8624 | I ain't gonna really care cause at that point | 1579.0798 |
1313 | | 1579.4528 | [I don't have anything left.] | 1580.6354 |
1314 | DCB_int_01 | 1579.4528 | [You reached that point.] | 1580.5650 |
1315 | | 1580.7762 | Mm-hm. | 1581.2689 |
1316 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1581.5787 | And then I'm empty and I don't- | 1582.8480 |
1318 | | 1583.2706 | I've been in a place where I'm trying to operate on fumes. That- that's not fun. | 1586.7199 |
1320 | | 1586.9381 | That's not a fun place. | 1587.9588 |
1321 | DCB_int_01 | 1588.7920 | So at /RD-SCHOOL-5/ you just didn't- | 1590.2421 |
1323 | | 1590.6715 | [It's six months, first semester.] | 1592.4354 |
1324 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1590.6799 | [/It wasn't a g-] | 1591.1959 |
1326 | | 1591.6426 | [Yeah.] | 1592.1452 |
1327 | | 1592.5968 | [It wasn't a fit.] | 1593.1716 |
1328 | DCB_int_01 | 1592.6195 | [Was it? Ish?] | 1593.6530 |
1329 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1593.8725 | The other thing was is that, you know, my mom raised me | 1596.9418 |
1331 | | 1597.4585 | pretty close knit. | 1598.2145 |
1333 | | 1598.7186 | And I'm a mama's boy, [if that-] if that hasn't been | 1601.1708 |
1334 | DCB_int_01 | 1599.6884 | [You are.] | 1600.2122 |
1335 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1601.3155 | noted [/or something/.] | 1602.3960 |
1336 | DCB_int_01 | 1601.8050 | [Oh you know I was] wondering. I couldn't [quite decide.] | 1605.0029 |
1337 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1603.7063 | [<laugh>] | 1605.2354 |
1338 | | 1606.0353 | I am. So I- I don't s- I'm not a brat because she taught me how to stand on my own | 1610.9765 |
1340 | | 1611.4902 | um, | 1611.9362 |
1342 | | 1612.2901 | but I was r- I was raised very close knit, | 1614.1306 |
1344 | | 1614.7365 | very kind of under the wing. | 1616.1594 |
1346 | | 1616.7965 | And | 1617.3982 |
1348 | | 1618.2238 | so the college | 1619.3449 |
1350 | | 1619.5714 | freedom | 1620.1802 |
1352 | | 1621.0267 | caught me of guard. | 1622.2868 |
1354 | | 1622.6336 | Um, and I lost a little bit of my mind, got down and you know, for the first time you're | 1626.9489 |
1356 | | 1627.3736 | able to | 1628.0319 |
1358 | | 1628.2585 | be free and confront and do and oh, okay. | 1631.4935 |
1360 | | 1632.0245 | So I was doing more | 1634.0434 |
1362 | | 1634.9168 | freedom and e- exploring | 1636.8918 |
1364 | | 1637.0617 | than I was | 1638.1536 |
1365 | DCB_int_01 | 1638.0994 | Mm. | 1638.3401 |
1366 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1638.5524 | studying | 1639.1683 |
1368 | | 1639.7842 | and working, | 1640.7115 |
1370 | | 1641.7026 | which didn't do so well for me. I went down and I remember my god mother went with us, | 1645.2179 |
1372 | | 1645.6780 | she pro- was proclaiming across the campus, this is little minister right here! I was like, okay, don't do that. | 1650.5029 |
1374 | | 1651.3028 | Um, [and then I was-] | 1652.7605 |
1375 | DCB_int_01 | 1652.3222 | [Cause I gotta see] these people on Monday. | 1653.6176 |
1376 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1653.6035 | Mm. | 1654.0565 |
1377 | DCB_int_01 | 1654.3467 | [Hush.] | 1654.9327 |
1378 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1654.3609 | [But then I was] in my little thing- I was putting my little | 1656.4704 |
1379 | | 1656.9772 | spiritual vitamin sheets on my door | 1658.7611 |
1381 | | 1659.2141 | and- and | 1659.9786 |
1383 | | 1660.6865 | then I had to take those down cause it wasn't lining up | 1663.3524 |
1385 | | 1663.5506 | too much with what what [was going on.] | 1665.1575 |
1386 | DCB_int_01 | 1664.4213 | [Was going on on] the other side [of the door.] | 1666.1839 |
1387 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1665.5964 | [Mm.] | 1666.1769 |
1388 | DCB_int_01 | 1666.3184 | [Mm.] | 1667.0263 |
1389 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1666.3255 | [Mm-mm.] | 1667.0476 |
1390 | | 1667.6676 | And so that- | 1668.6303 |
1392 | | 1669.7417 | And it's probably the first time I really looked at me | 1671.9928 |
1394 | | 1672.3397 | and | 1672.6299 |
1396 | | 1672.9201 | started to see | 1674.0032 |
1398 | | 1675.1258 | and make choices for myself. I went to college cause | 1677.8937 |
1400 | | 1678.1698 | that's what you supposed to [do when] you [graduate high] school. | 1680.2864 |
1401 | DCB_int_01 | 1679.0476 | [To do.] | 1679.3665 |
1403 | | 1679.7242 | [Yeah.] | 1679.9649 |
1404 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1680.7931 | And I never s- at any point said, hey, | 1682.9451 |
1406 | | 1683.2991 | this is what I wanna do to do this. I went cause that's what you supposed to do when you graduate high school. | 1687.6189 |
1407 | DCB_int_01 | 1687.9895 | So let me ask you a question. This kind of getting off t- Do you feel like you | 1690.9414 |
1409 | | 1691.2245 | give that message now, like | 1692.8781 |
1411 | | 1693.6426 | look, do what you wanna do. Do you but do something- [but] do you. | 1697.2812 |
1412 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1696.5287 | [Yeah.] | 1696.7843 |
1413 | | 1698.9418 | <cough> | 1699.4231 |
1415 | | 1699.6143 | I think- | 1700.2372 |
1417 | | 1701.7592 | I think I give it | 1702.5379 |
1419 | | 1702.6724 | without saying it, | 1703.6705 |
1420 | DCB_int_01 | 1703.8870 | Mm-hm. | 1704.2905 |
1421 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1704.5170 | but I think I also try to give it | 1705.7913 |
1423 | | 1706.2939 | with saying that. | 1706.8319 |
1425 | | 1707.2920 | I think I give it by saying it just cause this the life I live | 1709.5360 |
1427 | | 1710.2126 | um, in a lot of ways, and I think the older I get- Just turned thirty five- | 1713.4477 |
1429 | | 1713.6105 | Woo woo. | 1713.9857 |
1431 | | 1714.7290 | [Um-] | 1715.2316 |
1432 | DCB_int_01 | 1714.7290 | [And July] babies [are the best.] | 1716.5463 |
1433 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1715.5968 | [That's right.] Yes we are. | 1717.2674 |
1434 | | 1718.1452 | I think the more- the older I get | 1719.5964 |
1436 | | 1719.8158 | and the- the more I'm liberated | 1722.0032 |
1438 | | 1722.4958 | in that sense of knowing who you are and being who you are and doing something with your life | 1728.9843 |
1439 | DCB_int_01 | 1729.3311 | [Mm-hm.] | 1729.7983 |
1440 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1729.4798 | [and knowing] that your existence is your existence, | 1733.0440 |
1441 | | 1733.4298 | not anybody else's, and that your life should not look like everybody else's life. | 1737.4123 |
1443 | | 1738.3326 | That's my message more and more. | 1740.0528 |
1445 | | 1740.1773 | I struggle with the fact that I hadn't finished school and I look- and I get frustrated sometimes, and I look around and I say, what these people are doing this and they /going/ this and, | 1746.8710 |
1447 | | 1747.6568 | why is it not- | 1749.0513 |
1449 | | 1749.3061 | what is the- <clap> | 1750.2193 |
1451 | | 1750.7573 | what is the thing with me for why it's such an issue? There are other people that work and go to school. There are other people that take care of sick parents and go to school. | 1758.1377 |
1453 | | 1758.7436 | It's always been this thing. And I- for the longest time I couldn't figure it- | 1762.2052 |
1455 | | 1762.8918 | [I still] haven't quite figured it. | 1764.3775 |
1456 | DCB_int_01 | 1762.9479 | [Out.] | 1763.1896 |
1457 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1764.7931 | I'm at a point now where I want to do it | 1766.8672 |
1459 | | 1767.1150 | for me, | 1767.8725 |
1461 | | 1768.8210 | and so figuring out how to get around whatever it is that's blocking it. | 1771.7913 |
1463 | | 1772.5639 | But it's about me | 1773.3557 |
1465 | | 1773.7380 | wanting to do it, to deepen | 1775.4086 |
1467 | | 1775.7979 | my own knowledge base | 1777.4090 |
1469 | | 1778.4213 | [and to-] | 1779.0796 |
1470 | DCB_int_01 | 1778.5770 | [And that's the only] time you're gonna do it, when you wanna [do it. Not when] everybody else says you should | 1782.2368 |
1471 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1780.5379 | [Yeah.] | 1781.0051 |
1472 | | 1782.2905 | Yeah. | 1782.6445 |
1473 | DCB_int_01 | 1782.9064 | or whatever the case may be. Because guess what? | 1784.9168 |
1475 | | 1785.0867 | They can say all you- You know, people can say, oh, you need to lose weight. | 1788.3330 |
1477 | | 1788.6374 | Alright, but until you want to get into the gym, [until you] want to eat right, | 1791.6247 |
1478 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1790.6336 | [Yup.] | 1790.9168 |
1479 | DCB_int_01 | 1791.9645 | you still gonna [not lose weight or] whatever it is that you want to do, you have- there has to be something deep down. | 1798.0585 |
1480 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1792.7998 | [/They ain't gonna do it./ Yeah.] | 1793.9961 |
1482 | | 1798.0564 | Right. | 1798.3892 |
1483 | DCB_int_01 | 1798.4742 | Otherwise, we'll find every- we'll- we'll make an excuse [to make an excuse.] | 1802.0311 |
1484 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1801.1754 | [Yeah.] | 1801.6568 |
1485 | | 1802.0319 | Yup. | 1802.3788 |
1486 | DCB_int_01 | 1802.9664 | [Until] like, your just, I'm tired of making [excuses. Like], it's a waste of my time. | 1807.1382 |
1487 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1802.9876 | [Yeah.] | 1803.4265 |
1489 | | 1805.5643 | [Yeah.] | 1806.0599 |
1491 | | 1807.1258 | Yup. | 1807.3807 |
1492 | | 1807.7417 | Yup. | 1808.0178 |
1494 | | 1808.4496 | And I think I- I s- I'm seeing the | 1810.2830 |
1496 | | 1810.6936 | connect with | 1811.6251 |
1498 | | 1812.0357 | you know, going and living the life that I wanna live | 1814.6903 |
1500 | | 1814.9168 | for myself, and doing what I wanna do for me. | 1816.8777 |
1502 | | 1817.0192 | Then it's- I see it as a part of that, and I hadn't made that connection before. | 1819.9116 |
1504 | | 1820.3009 | And I used to beat myself op- | 1821.3203 |
1506 | | 1821.6601 | beat [myself] up over that. | 1823.0830 |
1507 | DCB_int_01 | 1821.7946 | [Mm-hm.] | 1822.1969 |
1508 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1823.6634 | But I realize my journey's my journey | 1825.3524 |
1509 | DCB_int_01 | 1826.0459 | Wh- | 1826.1654 |
1510 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1826.1169 | [and that it's not a bad thing that I] got it | 1828.1910 |
1511 | DCB_int_01 | 1826.5002 | [whatever it is. Yup.] | 1827.6450 |
1512 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1828.4742 | at this point and this person got it at that point. | 1830.4675 |
1514 | | 1830.8002 | I got it. | 1831.3948 |
1515 | DCB_int_01 | 1831.7842 | [Mm-hm.] | 1832.2797 |
1516 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1831.8974 | [So], let's get it. | 1832.7965 |
1517 | DCB_int_01 | 1833.4265 | And- but the thing is- one thing that I think is so beautiful about your story | 1837.2617 |
1519 | | 1837.7275 | is | 1838.4425 |
1521 | | 1839.8512 | look how many people you've touched and changed like, | 1842.7931 |
1523 | | 1843.2816 | along the way. | 1844.0461 |
1525 | | 1844.3222 | The things- it was so funny I was talking to /RD-NAME-3/ earlier, | 1846.5025 |
1527 | | 1846.9697 | and | 1847.4723 |
1529 | | 1848.3755 | she cried | 1849.2603 |
1531 | | 1849.4302 | when she talked about you. | 1850.4496 |
1533 | | 1850.7115 | Like, | 1851.1079 |
1535 | | 1851.3628 | tears. | 1851.9149 |
1537 | | 1852.4388 | And she was just saying how much- she said the thing that made it so important for her | 1857.5893 |
1539 | | 1857.9432 | was when you were | 1859.2670 |
1541 | | 1859.6068 | interviewing her, something about listening. | 1861.2179 |
1543 | | 1861.5576 | And she said, | 1862.1027 |
1545 | | 1862.7398 | you don't know what that means when somebody just | 1864.9626 |
1547 | | 1865.1608 | listens. And she said you could have said everything else under [the sun but when] you said that, it was done. | 1869.7663 |
1548 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1867.9399 | [<laugh>] | 1868.4638 |
1549 | DCB_int_01 | 1870.3892 | Ink was dry for her. | 1871.5183 |
1550 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1871.5714 | /Right./ | 1871.9183 |
1551 | DCB_int_01 | 1872.0357 | And I think that that's what is so amazing about your journey, is | 1876.6370 |
1553 | | 1876.9131 | how many people- how many- at nineteen oh one- | 1880.1664 |
1555 | | 1880.3646 | Even- not even- even before, I can't even talk about that, but over the last three years that you've been here, | 1884.8922 |
1557 | | 1885.2886 | how many kids' lives have you changed | 1887.5256 |
1559 | | 1888.5804 | drastically, for whatever path they may have been on | 1891.9611 |
1560 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1891.9399 | Uh. | 1892.2018 |
1561 | DCB_int_01 | 1892.3293 | or whatever pa- you know what I mean? Like, | 1894.1627 |
1563 | | 1894.6087 | oh no, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, it [doesn't matter] | 1896.5500 |
1564 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1895.9649 | [<laugh>] | 1896.5737 |
1565 | DCB_int_01 | 1896.8639 | if Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ had a two point three but Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ said, I need to go to college. | 1900.2193 |
1566 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1900.2314 | Right. | 1900.5379 |
1567 | DCB_int_01 | 1900.8210 | Or Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ said, I need to have a job. | 1902.5500 |
1569 | | 1902.8710 | And how many of them went to get a job? | 1904.8035 |
1571 | | 1905.1575 | Or went to college or | 1907.1396 |
1573 | | 1907.4935 | you know, still tryna do what they do because Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ said it. | 1910.5416 |
1574 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1910.5305 | Right. | 1910.7453 |
1575 | DCB_int_01 | 1910.7752 | And I think that- | 1911.8017 |
1577 | | 1912.1415 | you can't put a price on that. You can't- | 1914.4038 |
1579 | | 1914.6940 | you can't quantify that. [You can't] say, oh well, she did /at this/, you did that. | 1919.7696 |
1580 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1916.4071 | [Yeah.] | 1916.7799 |
1581 | | 1920.7153 | Yeah. | 1920.9843 |
1582 | DCB_int_01 | 1920.9984 | Yeah, but look how many people you've touched along the way. | 1923.3274 |
1583 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1923.7096 | That's why- I- | 1924.4812 |
1585 | | 1924.6441 | there are a lot of things sometimes in my life that don't make sense, that are, you know- and I have | 1928.6832 |
1587 | | 1929.5044 | prayed and cried and kicked and [screamed, and /with] god, like, for real, this is- this is what's going on. | 1935.0301 |
1588 | DCB_int_01 | 1931.2175 | [<laugh>] | 1932.0144 |
1589 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1936.2901 | There are parts of my life I- I can't understand, can't figure out. | 1939.1117 |
1591 | | 1940.0603 | This | 1940.3434 |
1593 | | 1940.5345 | part of my life has always made sense. At the moment (snaps) that I realized it, | 1943.9324 |
1595 | | 1944.5666 | at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 1945.2745 |
1597 | | 1945.8974 | and said, hey | 1946.7894 |
1599 | | 1947.1858 | Ms. /RD-NAME-2/, I really wanna start this peer mediation program cause these kids are wild. They keep coming in. Teachers keep sending them to me, and | 1952.8531 |
1601 | | 1953.4052 | they just sitting and looking. | 1954.4600 |
1603 | | 1954.8635 | <clears throat> From that point, | 1956.3430 |
1605 | | 1956.8993 | through | 1957.5223 |
1607 | | 1957.8408 | youth ministry and | 1959.4831 |
1609 | | 1960.2264 | after school programs and mentoring programs and | 1963.2674 |
1611 | | 1963.4373 | working /about/- and then I mean just all of these experiences that- that I've had, | 1967.0192 |
1613 | | 1967.5572 | working with- it makes sense, | 1968.8144 |
1615 | | 1969.2745 | you [know.] | 1969.6222 |
1616 | DCB_int_01 | 1969.4373 | [Mm-hm.] | 1969.8087 |
1617 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1969.8762 | At the end of the day, | 1971.0017 |
1619 | | 1973.5219 | even this transition | 1974.5846 |
1621 | | 1974.7537 | for me | 1975.2816 |
1623 | | 1975.8337 | back | 1976.2868 |
1625 | | 1976.5487 | here | 1977.0938 |
1627 | | 1977.5751 | to teen world | 1978.6795 |
1628 | DCB_int_01 | 1979.4552 | [Cause you left the teens.] [You went to the little people.] | 1981.8833 |
1629 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1979.4581 | [makes sense.] | 1980.2935 |
1631 | | 1980.6515 | [I left the teens, went] to the little [people-] | 1982.6991 |
1632 | DCB_int_01 | 1982.2939 | [That didn't] work [out.] | 1983.2070 |
1633 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1983.1845 | And went to the little people slash grown people, | 1985.1853 |
1634 | | 1985.3660 | and that- | 1985.7342 |
1636 | | 1985.9649 | that didn't [work out.] | 1986.7577 |
1637 | DCB_int_01 | 1986.2268 | [Yeah, it's the grown] people that sometimes you got to check more than the little people. | 1989.1858 |
1638 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 1989.5256 | And- and I had- I said this to | 1991.3095 |
1640 | | 1991.7201 | one of our partners, | 1992.7719 |
1642 | | 1993.9753 | if passion | 1994.8319 |
1644 | | 1995.5185 | and pay | 1996.3043 |
1646 | | 1996.7502 | is not enough to motivate you | 1998.3642 |
1648 | | 1999.3948 | I don't have anything else to give you. | 2000.6186 |
1649 | DCB_int_01 | 2001.1079 | [Mm.] | 2001.4606 |
1650 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2001.3180 | [I] don't. | 2001.7804 |
1651 | DCB_int_01 | 2001.8229 | Mm-hm. | 2002.2264 |
1652 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2002.8777 | And I- I struggle- | 2004.1094 |
1654 | | 2004.4038 | And I thought I wanted to be- | 2006.4496 |
1656 | | 2006.9522 | I thought I wanted to- this next phase, I wanted my life to be, alright, | 2010.2764 |
1658 | | 2010.6232 | let's train the trainer. | 2012.0036 |
1660 | | 2012.2655 | Let's get with these | 2013.7309 |
1662 | | 2013.8795 | first- | 2014.4529 |
1664 | | 2014.9839 | uh, these first responders of youth development, let's train adults. | 2019.5397 |
1666 | | 2019.9928 | I don't wanna do that | 2020.8706 |
1668 | | 2021.1396 | because- and not- well I don't- I don't say I don't wanna do that. Uh, let me take that back | 2024.7044 |
1670 | | 2025.1575 | cause I love | 2025.9362 |
1672 | | 2026.2122 | training and [teaching, like] I love to go to workshops and | 2029.1471 |
1673 | DCB_int_01 | 2026.8847 | [Mm-hm.] | 2027.2882 |
1674 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2029.6497 | once I stop being crazy and lazy and | 2031.6813 |
1676 | | 2031.8158 | to run with this idea that I have, | 2033.4865 |
1678 | | 2033.9224 | you know, I'm'a get a chance to go and train, | 2035.7983 |
1680 | | 2036.0744 | but | 2036.4071 |
1682 | | 2036.8531 | I think in this role as a supervisor and a manager of | 2039.9466 |
1684 | | 2040.4816 | staff, | 2041.2037 |
1686 | | 2041.7913 | I've struggled with that. | 2042.8743 |
1688 | | 2044.4175 | Passion and pay drive- w- pay doesn't even drive me. | 2047.0055 |
1690 | | 2047.2533 | This is clearly ain't a place for [pay to drive] you. | 2049.0513 |
1691 | DCB_int_01 | 2048.4708 | [Amen.] | 2049.0088 |
1692 | | 2049.4052 | Pay [ain't] | 2050.0859 |
1693 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2049.8300 | [<laugh>] | 2050.7573 |
1694 | DCB_int_01 | 2050.4459 | [driving] you nowhere. | 2051.2670 |
1695 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2051.5289 | Passion drives me here | 2052.9064 |
1697 | | 2053.0834 | but- | 2053.3453 |
1699 | | 2053.9399 | And I know that that works for me, but if passion and the fact that this is your job | 2058.1448 |
1701 | | 2058.9630 | doesn't drive you, I- | 2060.4905 |
1703 | | 2061.2283 | And I've strugg- I don't know what else to give you. | 2062.9485 |
1704 | DCB_int_01 | 2063.0900 | [ Mm-hm.] | 2063.5077 |
1705 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2063.2387 | [I can't] coach you | 2064.4421 |
1706 | | 2064.9064 | to | 2065.2674 |
1708 | | 2065.4231 | care. | 2065.9753 |
1709 | DCB_int_01 | 2066.1381 | Mm-hm. | 2066.5487 |
1710 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2067.1009 | You have to bring that with you. | 2068.5733 |
1712 | | 2069.0405 | I can't coach you to say, | 2070.4138 |
1714 | | 2071.0763 | /even if I-/, you know, this is my job. This is what I'm getting paid to- even though the circumstances are not perfect in this particular | 2076.8144 |
1716 | | 2077.2603 | organization but | 2078.2301 |
1718 | | 2080.1698 | this is where you are. | 2081.3944 |
1720 | | 2081.7201 | And if it's not where you gonna- where you don't wanna be, | 2083.5930 |
1722 | | 2083.7771 | then leave. | 2084.5770 |
1723 | DCB_int_01 | 2084.6903 | Right. Get on board or get out. | 2086.0919 |
1724 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2086.0919 | Don't stay and be a blockade to | 2089.3311 |
1725 | | 2090.0319 | [the young person that needs] you to listen | 2092.4388 |
1726 | DCB_int_01 | 2090.2231 | [Or a cancer.] | 2091.4123 |
1727 | | 2092.5096 | Mm-hm. | 2093.3449 |
1728 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2093.7171 | or to hear or to bring your resources or to care. | 2096.8814 |
1730 | | 2098.6653 | Like, li- and then- you know- and then, I guess the other struggle for me is that | 2102.2301 |
1732 | | 2103.2991 | now not only do I not know what to give you, but now you pissing me off. | 2106.4533 |
1733 | DCB_int_01 | 2106.7648 | I mean now you- <laugh> | 2107.6214 |
1734 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2107.9753 | Cause these- these kids mean- even the- the little people sometimes- I'll struggle with tryna figure out how to reach the little people, | 2113.5364 |
1736 | | 2114.1310 | and I'm, you know- it's a challenge. | 2115.9574 |
1738 | | 2116.2335 | But I love these- I love young people, | 2118.9135 |
1740 | | 2119.5794 | so don't- | 2120.0764 |
1742 | | 2120.6511 | don't come and n- don't do that. Cause now it's personal. | 2124.1769 |
1744 | | 2124.6073 | And this- this is very personal for me. That's why my fr- my friends- | 2127.3439 |
1746 | | 2127.7262 | some say, you are crazy. I am, | 2129.4676 |
1748 | | 2129.9065 | and I get that, | 2130.5790 |
1750 | | 2131.0928 | but I'm okay with it | 2132.1759 |
1752 | | 2132.7847 | because you kind of need that to do this work | 2135.0287 |
1754 | | 2135.2482 | the right way, | 2136.0764 |
1756 | | 2136.7247 | you know? Well you don't make time. Well, | 2138.6573 |
1758 | | 2138.8626 | <clap> | 2139.0678 |
1760 | | 2139.2448 | okay. | 2139.7899 |
1761 | DCB_int_01 | 2141.1844 | Do you [think] that's why you still- well I don't know if you single but | 2143.7016 |
1762 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2141.2977 | [/Th-/] | 2141.4818 |
1763 | DCB_int_01 | 2144.2184 | not married? | 2145.2307 |
1764 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2145.2165 | Yeah. | 2145.6837 |
1765 | DCB_int_01 | 2146.2996 | Cause you here all the time. | 2147.7295 |
1766 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2147.7295 | I am, and I think that's a big part- | 2149.4214 |
1767 | | 2149.6096 | I think that's a big part of it. | 2150.6856 |
1769 | | 2151.0395 | I'm- | 2151.3581 |
1771 | | 2151.8324 | I think as much as I give, | 2153.4959 |
1773 | | 2154.5365 | and I say that as humbly as I can. I know I- I try and give a lot. | 2158.4553 |
1774 | DCB_int_01 | 2159.0358 | You [do] give a lot. | 2160.0906 |
1775 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2159.2340 | [/At the-/] | 2159.5809 |
1777 | | 2160.0622 | <laugh> | 2160.4587 |
1778 | | 2160.9088 | At the end of the day, I like going home to r- recharge, and it's just me. | 2164.6239 |
1780 | | 2165.3048 | Um, | 2165.7295 |
1782 | | 2165.9844 | I recently had uh, one of my godsons who now stays with me | 2170.1084 |
1784 | | 2170.5544 | uh, graduate, and he's getting ready to go to school in the fall. | 2173.7866 |
1786 | | 2174.2821 | And because he has an internship, uh, with Department of Energy, | 2178.0764 |
1788 | | 2178.6639 | this is a little easier for him to be in DC. | 2181.0466 |
1790 | | 2181.2307 | So I said, alright, well you can- you can hang. | 2183.0216 |
1792 | | 2184.0552 | That's been a big adjustment | 2185.4143 |
1794 | | 2185.9777 | because now I- | 2186.9971 |
1796 | | 2187.2448 | I'm good with not having to say, | 2189.3897 |
1798 | | 2189.8145 | oh, you know, hey let's plan | 2191.7936 |
1800 | | 2192.2042 | what are we doing for dinner. | 2194.1155 |
1802 | | 2194.6111 | I'm fine with going home and not having to have that conversation and not have to say- and not have to think, | 2199.6979 |
1804 | | 2200.2500 | oh wait, there's two of us. | 2201.7862 |
1805 | DCB_int_01 | 2202.0009 | [Mm-hm.] | 2202.3459 |
1806 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2202.1543 | [And people], you know, it would be great- companionship would be cool! | 2205.1599 |
1807 | | 2205.5280 | But it takes more work than I want to [put in right] now. | 2208.2534 |
1808 | DCB_int_01 | 2207.3473 | [/???/] | 2207.8837 |
1809 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2208.7418 | And I'm okay with that. | 2209.7795 |
1810 | DCB_int_01 | 2210.0819 | [Mm.] | 2210.3839 |
1811 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2210.1688 | [It's all you] need- you need- you need some love. | 2211.9456 |
1812 | | 2212.6040 | I'm good. | 2213.1703 |
1813 | DCB_int_01 | 2213.2977 | [<laugh>] | 2213.5384 |
1814 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2213.7437 | I'm good. [I- Just cause I don't have-] just cause I'm not dating somebody doesn't mean I'm void of love, like | 2218.4270 |
1815 | DCB_int_01 | 2214.3666 | [/inaudible/] | 2215.1949 |
1817 | | 2218.3208 | Mm-hm. | 2218.8093 |
1818 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2219.2482 | mm, I still- I still have that, | 2220.9471 |
1820 | | 2221.0816 | but | 2221.4143 |
1822 | | 2222.6431 | I'm just not at that place where I wanna put that | 2224.7172 |
1824 | | 2224.9013 | work | 2225.3897 |
1826 | | 2225.6163 | into- | 2226.3383 |
1828 | | 2227.2840 | that's work. | 2227.9494 |
1830 | | 2228.6573 | Relationships are work, | 2229.9032 |
1832 | | 2230.6889 | and I'm already in like, eighty relationships at one time right now, so I don't really have time for eighty one. | 2235.5665 |
1834 | | 2236.0093 | And I'm okay w- and right now I'm okay with- /I thi-/ I would like to think at the point where | 2239.8220 |
1836 | | 2240.2821 | I do want to /add/ | 2241.7474 |
1838 | | 2242.1863 | I'm either gonna d- | 2243.0287 |
1840 | | 2243.4322 | subtract some | 2244.4020 |
1842 | | 2244.5861 | or I'll make room. | 2245.3364 |
1844 | | 2246.0272 | But that person has to understand. | 2247.7616 |
1845 | DCB_int_01 | 2249.7720 | This is what you- you coming with the other eighty. | 2251.5276 |
1846 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2251.7299 | All of this. | 2252.5723 |
1847 | DCB_int_01 | 2252.9302 | Mm-hm. | 2253.3175 |
1848 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2253.6129 | You know. | 2254.0306 |
1850 | | 2254.4412 | And I don't know if that means I gotta- I got to be in a relationship with somebody that's in youth development, that gets it, | 2258.5369 |
1852 | | 2259.3156 | or [is in human] services and gets it. That's a lot that you bring home. | 2262.5365 |
1853 | DCB_int_01 | 2259.5563 | [Ooh.] | 2260.1155 |
1854 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2262.8805 | Last serious relationship I was in, you know, | 2265.0254 |
1856 | | 2265.6554 | girlfriend, | 2266.2571 |
1858 | | 2266.7880 | oddly enough. | 2267.4605 |
1860 | | 2268.2675 | Um, | 2268.9683 |
1862 | | 2270.4024 | we both were in youth work, | 2271.7474 |
1864 | | 2272.1934 | and | 2272.8163 |
1866 | | 2274.1755 | we got that. And that was a good part | 2276.0768 |
1868 | | 2276.2608 | of- that was a good part of us | 2277.8182 |
1870 | | 2278.2359 | because we got it. | 2279.6375 |
1871 | DCB_int_01 | 2279.7932 | Mm-hm. | 2280.2817 |
1872 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2280.5011 | We can come home and talk about the- the good and the bad and cry about the bad and celebrate the good and go | 2285.7012 |
1874 | | 2286.2180 | you know, show up for each other's kids at events and programs and like, who was that? Oh. Oh, okay cool. Yeah, [/well/ you go.] I don't know your name little boy, but | 2293.7087 |
1875 | DCB_int_01 | 2291.8994 | [Mm.] | 2292.2463 |
1876 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2294.1405 | good job. [I'm proud of you for getting] that award cause you broke your foot and you still ran it- across the track or [whatever.] | 2299.3010 |
1877 | DCB_int_01 | 2294.4166 | [<laugh>] | 2295.4501 |
1879 | | 2298.8875 | [<laugh>] | 2299.3264 |
1880 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2300.1547 | You know, <clears throat> | 2301.1103 |
1881 | DCB_int_01 | 2301.1316 | [<laugh>] | 2302.1155 |
1882 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2301.6271 | [but it's-] | 2302.1297 |
1883 | | 2302.3845 | it was a good- | 2303.4110 |
1885 | | 2304.4587 | that was a good part of that, | 2305.9918 |
1887 | | 2306.4449 | so. | 2306.8413 |
1888 | DCB_int_01 | 2306.9404 | So I want to ask you a little bit about community | 2308.8871 |
1890 | | 2309.1986 | um, | 2309.8711 |
1892 | | 2310.5548 | cause I feel, personally. DC is a very unique place. | 2313.8678 |
1893 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2313.8678 | [Mm-hm.] | 2314.3704 |
1894 | DCB_int_01 | 2314.1226 | [Um], especially cause you did go away to Baltimore, | 2316.7064 |
1895 | | 2317.3972 | um, which I am realizing and I've learned that it is a very different world [cause I'm thinking] /eight/ to forty five minutes away, well how different can they be? It's a very different [world], | 2324.5228 |
1896 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2320.5049 | [Mm.] | 2320.9225 |
1898 | | 2322.8763 | [Mm.] | 2323.4709 |
1900 | | 2324.2679 | [Mm-hm.] | 2324.7281 |
1901 | DCB_int_01 | 2324.8767 | um, and people have very strong feelings about that. | 2327.1066 |
1902 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2327.2411 | Yeah. | 2327.5101 |
1903 | DCB_int_01 | 2327.7366 | So, when you were in Deanwood, that's Northeast and you | 2330.0343 |
1905 | | 2330.5228 | now work- and you live in [Southeast], | 2332.5261 |
1906 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2332.3987 | [Yup.] | 2332.6535 |
1907 | DCB_int_01 | 2333.0146 | like, you don't live far from here. | 2334.4799 |
1908 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2334.5011 | Mm-mm. | 2334.9046 |
1909 | DCB_int_01 | 2334.9654 | How do you see the community like, | 2336.5652 |
1911 | | 2336.7422 | the people, | 2337.7899 |
1913 | | 2338.4766 | like, how the city's changing. How do you | 2340.9046 |
1915 | | 2341.2556 | see that and then how do you feel about it? | 2343.2165 |
1916 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2343.7262 | I think, | 2344.1226 |
1918 | | 2344.5332 | like when I think back to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I remember people who- I mean, there were families in the community who were there for years, | 2352.8103 |
1920 | | 2353.2061 | decades. | 2354.0768 |
1922 | | 2354.6006 | And so, uh, Miss /RD-NAME-2/ who lived on | 2357.3614 |
1924 | | 2359.3123 | /RD-ADDRESS-8/ | 2361.5067 |
1926 | | 2361.6554 | which was a block and half away from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 2364.2604 |
1928 | | 2364.9046 | uh, and who always passed out the little butter cookies with the | 2368.2429 |
1929 | DCB_int_01 | 2368.4695 | The little [s- with the hole and you put the finger in it. <laugh> <clap> <clap>] | 2371.3577 |
1930 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2368.7456 | [ring around it that you put on your finger on it. Yup!] | 2371.2515 |
1931 | | 2371.5105 | She would pass those out with | 2372.6927 |
1933 | | 2373.0466 | sweet Kool Aid. I never understood the connection. Like cookies and milk, | 2376.7418 |
1935 | | 2377.0857 | yeah. But not cookies and Kool Aid. | 2378.8696 |
1937 | | 2379.4006 | Uh, but she always passed those out after school, | 2381.4959 |
1939 | | 2381.9561 | and nobody's mother said, well are you- who is this lady? | 2385.1528 |
1941 | | 2385.6342 | Who is this house you going to? Where'd those cookies come from? | 2388.7772 |
1943 | | 2389.5813 | There was a sense of- | 2390.7139 |
1945 | | 2391.0466 | that we were connected | 2392.1722 |
1947 | | 2392.7809 | when there was an issue. | 2393.9207 |
1949 | | 2394.0339 | Perfect example. | 2395.3681 |
1951 | | 2395.5388 | Fifth grade year, | 2396.6714 |
1953 | | 2397.2236 | uh, | 2398.0235 |
1955 | | 2398.2005 | we were welcomed by Miss /RD-NAME-1/, who was a new teacher, | 2401.3335 |
1957 | | 2401.9635 | but she would not be with us long | 2403.7828 |
1959 | | 2404.4341 | because in her third week, Miss /RD-NAME-1/ decided that she wanted to curse | 2408.4945 |
1961 | | 2408.9971 | at the fifth grade class of /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School, | 2411.9207 |
1963 | | 2412.4274 | many of whom had been together since | 2414.7705 |
1965 | | 2415.5704 | pre kindergarten and even at Tabernacle | 2418.2180 |
1966 | DCB_int_01 | 2418.3849 | <laugh> | 2418.7672 |
1967 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2418.7560 | across the street. | 2419.7134 |
1968 | | 2420.3458 | This was a community of parents, | 2422.2925 |
1970 | | 2422.8093 | students. | 2423.7791 |
1972 | | 2424.1755 | We had been sleepovers. We had been- I mean, friends, Chuck E. Cheese, the whole nine. | 2428.7330 |
1974 | | 2429.7295 | That night, | 2430.4303 |
1976 | | 2431.5317 | every child must have gone home and told their parents because that night at [Tabernacle], | 2435.6304 |
1977 | DCB_int_01 | 2435.3260 | [<laugh>] | 2436.1259 |
1978 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2436.1330 | every parent was in the church | 2438.3316 |
1980 | | 2438.5652 | hall | 2439.0820 |
1982 | | 2439.3793 | to meet. | 2439.8324 |
1984 | | 2440.3916 | And the next morning, | 2441.3709 |
1986 | | 2441.8569 | every parent | 2442.5153 |
1988 | | 2442.8834 | was in the principal's office. | 2444.5015 |
1990 | | 2444.8626 | By the afternoon, Miss /RD-NAME-1/ was gone. | 2446.9438 |
1992 | | 2448.3029 | I- I- that moment- I always tell people that story. That moment stood out to me because I had never seen a group of parents or people | 2454.5011 |
1994 | | 2454.9046 | move and shift something so quickly. | 2456.9263 |
1996 | | 2457.8536 | Every child must have gone home and said, Miss /RD-NAME-1/ uh, lost her mind and cussed at us. | 2461.8715 |
1998 | | 2462.4307 | A- and I may- I r- I can visually see | 2464.8659 |
2000 | | 2465.2552 | sitting in the basement of Tabernacle, these parents in this huddle, | 2468.6997 |
2002 | | 2469.2307 | in these chairs, | 2470.4341 |
2004 | | 2470.7526 | and, you know, what took less than a hour | 2472.8126 |
2006 | | 2473.1707 | and then everybody showed up the next morning. | 2474.8980 |
2008 | | 2476.1226 | Nobody said, oh, well just get out. I gotta go to work. | 2478.3171 |
2009 | DCB_int_01 | 2479.7405 | Mm-mm. | 2480.3741 |
2010 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2480.7776 | [Just get out, I gotta go get my coffee.] | 2482.6960 |
2011 | DCB_int_01 | 2480.8059 | [So it was a sense of- it was concern], yeah. | 2483.1703 |
2012 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2484.0198 | No. | 2484.5436 |
2014 | | 2484.7277 | This woman is crazy. | 2485.7582 |
2016 | | 2485.9635 | She cussing at our kids. She got to go. | 2487.6554 |
2018 | | 2488.4199 | And they didn't leave until that woman was gone. Miss /RD-NAME-1/ was gone | 2491.1736 |
2020 | | 2492.0202 | that afternoon. | 2492.7988 |
2022 | | 2493.2661 | Out. | 2493.6554 |
2024 | | 2494.4978 | Before there was principal autonomy | 2496.8763 |
2026 | | 2497.2061 | in the schools, | 2498.1405 |
2028 | | 2498.3741 | Miss /RD-NAME-1/ was gone. | 2499.2731 |
2030 | | 2501.2552 | There was a- a- a connectedness, a belonging, a protection, | 2505.0112 |
2032 | | 2507.3189 | and then people moved. | 2508.6752 |
2034 | | 2509.1707 | And I think all of the societal ills that we've dealt with | 2511.4997 |
2036 | | 2511.9527 | from the crack ep- epidemic to the violence | 2514.6356 |
2038 | | 2515.0928 | to gentrification that has split the community | 2518.1368 |
2040 | | 2518.4128 | and sent people running every which away. | 2520.7347 |
2042 | | 2521.2132 | Older people passing- | 2522.7493 |
2044 | | 2523.1245 | f- uh, older people retiring and moving down south, | 2525.7437 |
2046 | | 2526.1684 | all of that. | 2526.7631 |
2048 | | 2527.4397 | You drive through Deanwood now it's a different f- It's a whole different feel. It's a different vibe. | 2530.9225 |
2050 | | 2531.5596 | And | 2532.0976 |
2052 | | 2532.2463 | I see that in- even in Southeast. It's not- | 2535.0325 |
2054 | | 2536.1509 | And I moved here particular- specifically | 2538.1613 |
2056 | | 2538.6498 | because this is where I serve. | 2540.4237 |
2058 | | 2541.0962 | So I wanted to be able to live in the same place. That was important for me to have that connection. | 2545.1748 |
2060 | | 2545.9777 | And find people that care | 2547.2448 |
2062 | | 2548.7102 | at all- I didn't find businesses that cared, | 2550.8480 |
2064 | | 2551.1312 | that said, oh well you at the /RD-WORK-5/ down the street? Oh, well let's work with you on this and that. | 2555.2411 |
2066 | | 2556.0622 | I didn't find people, and I still don't. | 2557.4285 |
2068 | | 2558.2821 | The kids that we serve in- in /RD-WORK-3/, | 2560.6181 |
2070 | | 2561.2552 | are not coming from the community. | 2563.4214 |
2072 | | 2564.2113 | They're not. | 2564.7068 |
2074 | | 2566.4766 | And I [think that that-] | 2567.4039 |
2075 | DCB_int_01 | 2566.7314 | [Why?] | 2567.1491 |
2076 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2567.5879 | I think that that says a lot about what we look at | 2570.1193 |
2078 | | 2570.7635 | as community. | 2571.8394 |
2080 | | 2572.1863 | The fact that we can | 2573.2694 |
2082 | | 2573.6800 | have Parkland | 2574.9400 |
2084 | | 2575.5600 | here at nineteenth, and then two blocks over | 2578.2925 |
2086 | | 2578.9367 | at twenty second have a deuce deuce, | 2580.9329 |
2088 | | 2581.2981 | and there's a beef. Y'all two blocks apart from each other, | 2583.6908 |
2090 | | 2584.4482 | but Parkland kids won't walk up twenty second street. | 2586.7984 |
2092 | | 2587.7866 | Twenty second kids won't walk through Parkland. | 2589.8041 |
2094 | | 2590.0164 | At all. | 2590.5544 |
2096 | | 2591.4181 | It's a death- | 2592.0127 |
2098 | | 2592.3525 | death war- or death threat if you do. | 2594.3175 |
2100 | | 2594.6502 | If I drive the Club bus up twenty second, kids duck down on the seat, they're telling me to go the other direction. | 2600.5350 |
2102 | | 2602.8871 | It's a breakdown of what family and community | 2606.0060 |
2104 | | 2606.8342 | mean, and we aren't- | 2608.2146 |
2106 | | 2608.7102 | and I think there's a lot of [issues for them.] | 2610.5068 |
2107 | DCB_int_01 | 2609.9631 | [Where'd that beef] come from? Like, cause I've heard you talk about this before but I didn't realize it was like, too- like, I didn't realize- I knew, but I didn't know. | 2616.8763 |
2108 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2617.0645 | Yeah. | 2617.4751 |
2110 | | 2617.6096 | This bee- And I- I mean, it's- it's been here I think as long as the Club has been here cause | 2621.5809 |
2112 | | 2621.9702 | um like, /RD-NAME-1/ | 2623.0462 |
2114 | | 2623.1565 | um, | 2623.6945 |
2116 | | 2623.9635 | /RD-NAME-2/ | 2624.7869 |
2118 | | 2625.1245 | used to talk about, you know, | 2626.6606 |
2120 | | 2627.2623 | how they used to try and go and stand in between | 2630.5644 |
2122 | | 2631.2590 | uh, | 2631.8961 |
2124 | | 2632.0306 | factions between- from both communities. | 2634.3949 |
2126 | | 2634.8875 | Um, and I think it started with | 2637.1386 |
2128 | | 2637.2802 | a- a violent act. Somebody might have been killed | 2639.8216 |
2130 | | 2640.3029 | in Parkland by somebody from twenty second, and then it's just gone back and forth, back and forth. | 2644.3491 |
2132 | | 2644.6181 | I think the same with- with Parkland and then Congress Park, which is | 2647.8166 |
2134 | | 2648.2396 | two blocks over on the other side of the Giant. | 2650.2217 |
2136 | | 2651.1774 | Uh, that whole little shopping center, that community on the other side, | 2653.9989 |
2138 | | 2654.3458 | you know. You- if you from Congress Park, you don't necessarily- | 2657.2482 |
2140 | | 2657.7295 | are not necessarily welcome in Parkland. | 2659.5530 |
2142 | | 2659.9140 | And- and it's- it's weird to see | 2661.8678 |
2144 | | 2662.2500 | Parkland just kind of dropped in the middle | 2664.1330 |
2146 | | 2664.5507 | of all of this | 2665.8078 |
2148 | | 2667.3793 | /interestingness/. | 2668.9579 |
2150 | | 2669.8428 | Um, | 2670.3666 |
2152 | | 2671.1778 | and when I moved here, | 2672.3600 |
2154 | | 2672.6077 | the only stipulation I gave the rental office was I didn't wanna live | 2675.5101 |
2156 | | 2676.0127 | on Stanton Road, on the one way street | 2677.6709 |
2158 | | 2679.2377 | because I- | 2679.6766 |
2160 | | 2679.9173 | I drove past- and then you talked about Joe Clarke- that one way street felt like East Side High | 2684.4551 |
2162 | | 2684.7210 | prior to Joe Clarke. | 2685.6342 |
2164 | | 2687.3048 | [When you would] drive up the street, the en- the | 2689.2303 |
2165 | DCB_int_01 | 2687.3233 | [Mm.] | 2687.6047 |
2166 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2689.5883 | energy, and I'm a big reader, | 2691.4006 |
2168 | | 2691.9739 | spiritual person- big reader of energy | 2694.2356 |
2170 | | 2694.8622 | that comes out of people and places | 2696.9900 |
2172 | | 2697.4076 | and the ground | 2698.6748 |
2174 | | 2699.5030 | and- and- and all- I think all of that- | 2702.4945 |
2176 | | 2703.8041 | the- the drugs, | 2704.9296 |
2178 | | 2705.2552 | the violence, the blood that's on these grounds, all that stuff just talks | 2709.4076 |
2180 | | 2709.9527 | and speaks. And when you come up that street, | 2712.4657 |
2182 | | 2712.6498 | there's so- | 2713.6709 |
2184 | | 2714.0556 | and the street is two blocks, | 2715.7962 |
2185 | DCB_int_01 | 2716.3916 | Mm-hm. | 2716.9013 |
2186 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2717.4888 | but it is the most- | 2719.1878 |
2188 | | 2720.2467 | I can't even really think of the word. It's the most- | 2722.6903 |
2190 | | 2724.0693 | it's heavy, like your heart gets heavy coming up those- up- up those two blocks. | 2728.0731 |
2192 | | 2729.5242 | And, I mean I think it' just- | 2731.1453 |
2194 | | 2731.5813 | It's an example of | 2732.5936 |
2196 | | 2732.9829 | the breakdown | 2733.8253 |
2198 | | 2734.4907 | um, of | 2735.7649 |
2200 | | 2736.3566 | a community, of a people. | 2738.0626 |
2202 | | 2738.6573 | I mean, you have to- I think it goes back to systemic things that were | 2741.3968 |
2204 | | 2741.9136 | put in us | 2742.6356 |
2206 | | 2742.7772 | during slavery | 2743.8149 |
2208 | | 2744.3529 | and Jim Crow | 2745.4006 |
2210 | | 2745.6766 | and all those things that just | 2746.9933 |
2212 | | 2747.3614 | are bearing fruit. | 2748.3460 |
2213 | DCB_int_01 | 2748.8268 | Mm. | 2749.1312 |
2214 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2749.4114 | Um, | 2750.1617 |
2216 | | 2751.1032 | bearing fruit now. | 2752.2005 |
2218 | | 2752.8376 | It's just- [it's broken.] | 2754.1189 |
2219 | DCB_int_01 | 2753.4464 | [Do you have kids] from both? | 2754.6356 |
2220 | | 2755.1636 | Like, | 2755.4468 |
2222 | | 2755.9565 | is the Club kind of a neutral ground or is- is it like exclusively serving one- | 2760.4516 |
2223 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2761.0999 | It used to be neutral. | 2762.3407 |
2225 | | 2762.5298 | Um, | 2763.0041 |
2227 | | 2763.2165 | <clears throat> | 2763.6342 |
2229 | | 2763.9810 | we predominantly | 2764.9154 |
2231 | | 2765.0853 | serve Parkland | 2766.0835 |
2233 | | 2766.5719 | from kids that come in the community of Parkland, Congress Park, | 2769.0962 |
2235 | | 2769.8607 | um, but | 2770.6040 |
2237 | | 2771.0358 | I don't- we don't have any from twenty second. Covenant House | 2773.3056 |
2239 | | 2773.9423 | gets kids from twenty second. | 2775.0112 |
2241 | | 2775.3935 | But what was beautiful about | 2776.8093 |
2243 | | 2777.3756 | um, | 2778.0694 |
2245 | | 2779.3831 | when we did our Balling at the Art | 2780.7281 |
2247 | | 2781.0820 | series- | 2781.8111 |
2249 | | 2782.4695 | and this was before I knew all of this, about the beef. I just said, hey, | 2785.7896 |
2251 | | 2786.3033 | y'all our partners. | 2787.5634 |
2253 | | 2787.7262 | Y'all got some guys. We got some guys. Let's play ball. | 2790.3809 |
2255 | | 2791.3406 | Didn't know anything about the beefing issue. | 2792.8555 |
2257 | | 2793.1316 | We went six weeks | 2794.2359 |
2259 | | 2795.0358 | practicing, | 2795.8145 |
2261 | | 2796.1684 | having these games, | 2797.3081 |
2263 | | 2797.9211 | never issue. | 2798.6856 |
2265 | | 2799.4218 | Kids from twenty second and Parkland in one place. | 2801.9277 |
2267 | | 2802.6002 | Dapped each other up after the game. | 2804.0420 |
2269 | | 2804.3883 | We crossed from every- every- all three games we won, | 2806.4058 |
2271 | | 2806.9792 | dapped each other up. | 2807.7346 |
2273 | | 2807.8768 | We sat down- | 2808.7489 |
2275 | | 2808.9229 | the la- the last- after the last game- that Saturday- that next day, | 2811.8607 |
2277 | | 2812.2429 | Saturday morning, we sat down with Chick Fil A | 2814.0693 |
2279 | | 2814.5365 | and talked about what it meant to be | 2816.5440 |
2281 | | 2817.1174 | young black men | 2818.0235 |
2283 | | 2818.2642 | in Southeast. | 2819.0712 |
2285 | | 2819.6092 | No issue. | 2820.1826 |
2287 | | 2822.0626 | So it can work. | 2822.7705 |
2288 | DCB_int_01 | 2824.1934 | What do you feel like is the | 2825.8428 |
2290 | | 2826.4711 | male- | 2827.3364 |
2292 | | 2827.7370 | see because Southeast, if you think about DC, it's the roughest part of the- the city- | 2832.3100 |
2294 | | 2832.6852 | uh, that's the perception, | 2833.9069 |
2296 | | 2834.3529 | um, | 2835.0820 |
2298 | | 2835.3014 | especially Ward Eight. Oh, | 2836.8517 |
2300 | | 2837.1774 | like, | 2837.6587 |
2302 | | 2838.0835 | you gonna get shot up if you [just walk] over there. [You know, if you] [cross that] line- | 2841.7975 |
2303 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2839.2840 | [Mm-hm.] | 2839.7228 |
2305 | | 2840.3033 | [Yup.] | 2840.6785 |
2307 | | 2840.8767 | [<clears throat>] | 2841.3014 |
2308 | DCB_int_01 | 2842.2925 | Um, what do you think is the perception or what does it mean to be a black male in ward eight? | 2848.5403 |
2310 | | 2848.6960 | Or not even just male- I won't even just say- but to be a black person in ward eight. In- in this time, | 2854.0164 |
2312 | | 2854.3774 | in DC as- as gentrification is running rampant, like | 2857.4993 |
2314 | | 2858.0768 | what does that mean? | 2859.2094 |
2315 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2859.2802 | To be feared. | 2860.1084 |
2316 | DCB_int_01 | 2861.4039 | Because you're from [Southeast?] | 2862.5224 |
2317 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2862.3100 | [Yeah.] | 2862.7347 |
2318 | | 2864.7351 | Um, | 2865.5563 |
2320 | | 2868.5719 | yeah. | 2869.0391 |
2322 | | 2870.4095 | That you are going to | 2871.8819 |
2324 | | 2872.6960 | do something dangerous | 2874.4587 |
2326 | | 2875.0220 | or bad | 2875.7441 |
2328 | | 2877.4855 | just by your presence. | 2878.6040 |
2330 | | 2878.9013 | <clears throat> | 2879.4039 |
2332 | | 2880.4233 | Um, | 2881.1382 |
2334 | | 2883.0041 | I think about | 2883.9810 |
2336 | | 2885.6658 | uh- we took the teens to go see Fruitvale Station | 2888.4188 |
2338 | | 2888.6997 | when it [came out], | 2889.3652 |
2339 | DCB_int_01 | 2888.9404 | [Mm.] Mm-hm. | 2889.8819 |
2340 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2890.5119 | and then caught the train back on the green line. | 2893.6709 |
2342 | | 2894.9829 | And on the train, | 2896.9579 |
2344 | | 2897.3119 | uh, eight or nine of the teens left with me. | 2899.5954 |
2346 | | 2900.2932 | There was a group of White and Asian people who got on around | 2904.9471 |
2348 | | 2905.9494 | Navy Yard. <clears throat> | 2907.6129 |
2350 | | 2909.0004 | And I don't think they realized I was the chaperone or the staff person with them | 2913.1740 |
2352 | | 2913.4289 | cause I was standing up. I'm standing by the door, the- the teens are all o- hucked up over here. | 2917.2627 |
2354 | | 2917.6379 | This group gets on to the right, | 2919.2731 |
2356 | | 2919.5704 | <clears throat> | 2920.0093 |
2358 | | 2920.6111 | and the comments that they started making | 2922.1118 |
2360 | | 2922.4516 | in earshot of the group, | 2923.6621 |
2362 | | 2925.2731 | oh, look at them, oh, they think that- | 2927.5030 |
2364 | | 2928.5719 | they think that- | 2929.6709 |
2366 | | 2929.9494 | um- | 2930.4520 |
2368 | | 2931.4643 | oh, what did they say? | 2932.5119 |
2370 | | 2933.1066 | Oh- those- those- those kids, they- they must be going back to Anacostia. | 2936.8201 |
2372 | | 2937.8748 | Oh they're laughing. They're talking so loud. Oh, they're this, they're that. | 2940.8763 |
2374 | | 2942.4803 | And | 2943.3652 |
2376 | | 2944.1651 | they were just being teens. | 2945.1491 |
2377 | DCB_int_01 | 2945.2241 | /Mm-hm/. | 2945.6387 |
2379 | | 2945.9914 | Doing a lot, going through some things. [Okay.] | 2948.0839 |
2380 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2947.6804 | [Yeah.] | 2948.0343 |
2381 | DCB_int_01 | 2949.7333 | Um, | 2950.0801 |
2383 | | 2950.3208 | so continue on. | 2951.0004 |
2384 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 2952.1047 | But yeah, and so, | 2953.0462 |
2386 | | 2953.8361 | they were just being teens, | 2954.8838 |
2388 | | 2955.2236 | having fun, talking, laughing, | 2956.7314 |
2390 | | 2957.1844 | nothing inappropriate. | 2957.9631 |
2392 | | 2959.0462 | And | 2960.0202 |
2394 | | 2960.6785 | uh, I don't remember who it was, one of the teens, saw my response, | 2963.6163 |
2396 | | 2964.4587 | because on my face, | 2965.8998 |
2398 | | 2966.6148 | the disdain and | 2968.3279 |
2400 | | 2968.5615 | frustration. | 2969.3119 |
2402 | | 2971.0574 | And not only are they saying these things, they're looking | 2973.3510 |
2404 | | 2974.1297 | at the teens | 2975.1915 |
2406 | | 2976.1259 | as if | 2976.8197 |
2408 | | 2977.3477 | being black, | 2978.5369 |
2410 | | 2979.1245 | and being young | 2980.1651 |
2412 | | 2980.5757 | on the train in a group | 2982.6427 |
2414 | | 2983.2415 | means that you are thugs and about to do something to them. | 2986.9792 |
2416 | | 2988.9442 | And you know, | 2989.9565 |
2418 | | 2990.5652 | there was a big part of me that wanted to | 2992.2713 |
2420 | | 2992.8730 | say something, | 2993.7083 |
2422 | | 2994.2604 | but in that moment, I felt if I did, | 2996.8088 |
2424 | | 2997.3439 | one I had the hands on my s- on my shirt, | 2999.1844 |
2426 | | 2999.5596 | had the- I was branded. | 3000.7984 |
2427 | DCB_int_01 | 3000.9867 | Mm-hm, [mm-hm.] | 3001.6736 |
2428 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3001.3193 | [So I had the] logo, and I didn't think that what I was getting ready to say was /getting ready/ to represent the organization at its best. | 3006.1755 |
2429 | | 3006.6115 | I wasn't gonna- I wasn't gonna be professional about it, | 3008.5440 |
2430 | DCB_int_01 | 3009.1811 | Mm. | 3009.5492 |
2431 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3009.8536 | and so I opted not to say anything. | 3011.2694 |
2433 | | 3012.7903 | But we had a very serious conversation | 3015.0945 |
2435 | | 3015.6836 | that night | 3016.2446 |
2437 | | 3016.7355 | with them, | 3017.4158 |
2439 | | 3018.4116 | and oddly enough, that- that was | 3020.5896 |
2441 | | 3021.9781 | right before we went to go to the Hill | 3024.3836 |
2443 | | 3025.2251 | to go visit Congressman Maxine Waters. | 3028.2306 |
2445 | | 3029.9137 | And so, | 3030.9306 |
2447 | | 3033.1296 | I guess it was like a week or so in between that. | 3034.9600 |
2449 | | 3035.6823 | The morning of the visit, | 3037.2532 |
2451 | | 3038.4002 | um, | 3039.2278 |
2453 | | 3039.4311 | the | 3040.2026 |
2455 | | 3041.7735 | French State Department | 3043.6669 |
2457 | | 3043.9584 | released a | 3045.3259 |
2459 | | 3045.5013 | travel warning to its residents | 3047.3737 |
2461 | | 3047.9207 | who were visiting the US. | 3049.2742 |
2463 | | 3050.5966 | And in it they said to avoid certain areas, | 3053.6823 |
2465 | | 3054.9095 | Union Station, I remember, | 3056.7158 |
2467 | | 3057.8870 | and I remember they said Southeast | 3059.3737 |
2469 | | 3059.7735 | and Anacostia | 3060.8675 |
2471 | | 3061.1831 | to avoid | 3062.0566 |
2473 | | 3062.9963 | at all. | 3063.6205 |
2475 | | 3063.8028 | Union Station you can go to in the daytime, | 3065.4018 |
2477 | | 3066.0329 | but don't go to Union Station at night. | 3067.3233 |
2479 | | 3068.4423 | But Southeast and wa- and Anacostia, | 3070.5041 |
2481 | | 3070.7846 | don't go to in the daytime, | 3072.2644 |
2483 | | 3073.1760 | late in the midnight hour. | 3074.8118 |
2485 | | 3075.2839 | Not- don't ever go | 3076.4200 |
2487 | | 3076.6654 | at all. | 3077.1774 |
2489 | | 3077.8366 | And /RD-NAME-2/ saw that, | 3078.8464 |
2491 | | 3080.0636 | read that article | 3081.0034 |
2493 | | 3081.1997 | that morning | 3081.8589 |
2495 | | 3081.9992 | when we were here early getting ready to go see the Congresswoman, | 3084.6571 |
2497 | | 3085.4745 | and it started this conversation about | 3086.9122 |
2499 | | 3087.0524 | redefining what it means to be from Southeast | 3089.4018 |
2501 | | 3090.2153 | as a black | 3090.8745 |
2503 | | 3091.3023 | youth, as a black person to be from Southeast, | 3093.7537 |
2505 | | 3094.2797 | which started this whole- I think what may have even made the- laid some of the groundwork for [Our Lives Matter] | 3099.0945 |
2506 | DCB_int_01 | 3098.3792 | [That's right, mm-hm.] | 3099.0454 |
2507 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3099.7187 | because everything that they did now they wanted to | 3102.1942 |
2509 | | 3102.3906 | prove | 3102.9867 |
2511 | | 3103.9023 | to people | 3104.7509 |
2513 | | 3105.9781 | that great things come out of this- | 3107.3807 |
2515 | | 3107.5841 | this part of the city, | 3108.6080 |
2517 | | 3108.9586 | that they are not their | 3110.1758 |
2519 | | 3110.9332 | environment. | 3111.5994 |
2521 | | 3112.7215 | Um, | 3113.2896 |
2523 | | 3114.2854 | and the- sadly enough they had to prove that to some of the people that were in the environment | 3117.3961 |
2525 | | 3118.1184 | and in the community, and what that meant to f- | 3119.8085 |
2527 | | 3119.9768 | to them, | 3120.6501 |
2529 | | 3121.0678 | to the young people who chose to come to the Club | 3123.4732 |
2531 | | 3124.5181 | who had friends who didn't choose to come to the Club | 3127.3023 |
2533 | | 3128.3231 | because they made other choices | 3130.0553 |
2535 | | 3130.2446 | that were not always positive choices, | 3132.2714 |
2537 | | 3133.0779 | and what that meant for them to stand up and say, yup, | 3135.1085 |
2539 | | 3135.5223 | I'm gonna be different | 3136.6514 |
2541 | | 3137.8857 | because that's what I wanna do. | 3139.1199 |
2543 | | 3139.3623 | That's who I choose to be. | 3140.5475 |
2545 | | 3141.4802 | Um, | 3142.0763 |
2547 | | 3142.3148 | <clears throat> | 3143.1423 |
2549 | | 3144.0750 | so, I mean, it- it's- it's this whole notion that | 3146.7789 |
2551 | | 3149.6051 | to be from Southeast doesn't mean anything /?/. It's the same as you. | 3153.5433 |
2553 | | 3154.1114 | [Tryna figure out-] | 3154.7636 |
2554 | DCB_int_01 | 3154.1184 | [So let me ask you] this because | 3156.1732 |
2555 | | 3156.5870 | especially- I don't know a lot about, | 3159.5433 |
2557 | | 3160.1044 | mm, that's not true. | 3160.9880 |
2559 | | 3161.3948 | But I don't have the- | 3162.3064 |
2561 | | 3162.8745 | the d- I'm a southern girl, you know. Um, | 3164.9963 |
2563 | | 3165.5504 | I know | 3166.1114 |
2565 | | 3166.7987 | about sitting on the porch shelling peas [like], | 3168.7903 |
2566 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3168.3625 | [<laugh>] | 3168.7973 |
2567 | DCB_int_01 | 3168.9306 | you know? But that's- that's- so if somebody asked me about | 3171.1927 |
2569 | | 3171.4732 | what was it like growing up in the South, | 3173.1844 |
2570 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3173.3457 | Mm-hm. | 3173.6612 |
2571 | DCB_int_01 | 3173.7174 | and | 3174.5028 |
2573 | | 3174.7202 | you know, some of the racial tensions that I felt in the South | 3177.5269 |
2575 | | 3177.7187 | that were still very alive, [even] covertly. Like, | 3180.7763 |
2576 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3179.4438 | [Right.] | 3179.7516 |
2577 | DCB_int_01 | 3181.2291 | very much running deep. | 3182.4563 |
2579 | | 3182.7579 | I can talk about that, but I can't talk about DC in that way. | 3186.0820 |
2581 | | 3186.4747 | What do you feel like- | 3187.8182 |
2583 | | 3188.0426 | so that was on the flip s- um, that was on one side. Like, | 3190.7005 |
2585 | | 3190.9950 | being in DC and the perception that it's dangerous and- I mean it is. There are some parts, | 3196.0763 |
2587 | | 3196.2517 | but that's anywhere. | 3197.0368 |
2588 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3197.0371 | Right. | 3197.4228 |
2589 | DCB_int_01 | 3197.7945 | But let's take it on the flip side, | 3199.3303 |
2591 | | 3199.6288 | how do you feel like- | 3200.8070 |
2593 | | 3201.6696 | I won't just say your men, your young men, but all your kids were affected by all of the events, | 3206.9402 |
2595 | | 3207.5293 | Ferguson, Eric, all that, like | 3209.9979 |
2597 | | 3210.2784 | how do you feel like your kids were affected | 3212.3371 |
2599 | | 3212.5966 | when all they could see were | 3214.4059 |
2601 | | 3214.9950 | like, | 3215.2896 |
2603 | | 3215.9979 | kids that look like them | 3217.4145 |
2604 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3217.4566 | Mm-hm. | 3217.8930 |
2605 | DCB_int_01 | 3218.1057 | getting shot, getting killed, Trayvon Martin, like that whole- | 3220.7215 |
2607 | | 3220.9600 | Once that kind of- the ripple of, I think, | 3222.5449 |
2609 | | 3222.7062 | starting with Trayvon like, kind of, | 3224.4984 |
2611 | | 3224.6387 | and starting that whole eighteen, twenty four month period of just [ridiculousness.] | 3229.8493 |
2612 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3229.3303 | [Yeah.] | 3229.8493 |
2613 | | 3230.5405 | It um- | 3231.3049 |
2615 | | 3232.5813 | one of the things that I- I recognized was | 3234.9657 |
2617 | | 3235.7410 | uh, an increase in their | 3237.1436 |
2619 | | 3237.4171 | pride and their participation in the Club. | 3239.8225 |
2621 | | 3240.9376 | Um, | 3241.6459 |
2623 | | 3242.5826 | and it t- it took me | 3243.8800 |
2625 | | 3244.2026 | until now | 3245.0581 |
2627 | | 3245.1914 | to really see that. | 3246.0259 |
2628 | DCB_int_01 | 3247.0748 | Hm. | 3247.3974 |
2629 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3247.6008 | And | 3248.3091 |
2631 | | 3248.7649 | what I think about- think back to is | 3251.5070 |
2633 | | 3251.9137 | the same pride I had at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 3253.5407 |
2635 | | 3254.0075 | And- and the place | 3255.2698 |
2637 | | 3255.7257 | that that was a- a safe haven and a sanctuary and | 3258.4397 |
2639 | | 3258.7623 | that was a place where I was built up. | 3260.2950 |
2641 | | 3261.2698 | I think it meant more to them | 3262.5672 |
2643 | | 3264.1522 | because they understood that there were people who devalued their lives | 3267.4802 |
2645 | | 3268.8548 | just because they were black, | 3270.1592 |
2647 | | 3270.6711 | who didn't care about | 3272.0847 |
2649 | | 3272.8350 | how police interacted with them, | 3275.4158 |
2651 | | 3276.2012 | and there was this sense of clinging. | 3278.3582 |
2653 | | 3279.7397 | Um, | 3280.2587 |
2655 | | 3280.4831 | we spent more time together talking | 3282.6290 |
2657 | | 3283.1099 | outside of programs. | 3284.4353 |
2659 | | 3284.9192 | <clears throat> We had longer nights. | 3286.5462 |
2661 | | 3287.3737 | The night that the um- | 3289.1620 |
2663 | | 3291.3119 | um- the night that the Ferguson uh, | 3294.0610 |
2665 | | 3294.4257 | <ts> | 3294.6501 |
2667 | | 3295.6218 | verdict was announced, [I was actually] | 3297.6556 |
2668 | DCB_int_01 | 3296.9402 | [Mm-hm.] | 3297.3470 |
2669 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3297.7607 | in the middle of doing drop offs, | 3299.0862 |
2671 | | 3299.5561 | and I had | 3300.1592 |
2673 | | 3300.3555 | one alum | 3301.2321 |
2675 | | 3301.4254 | on the bus that I was taking home and | 3303.2628 |
2677 | | 3304.5742 | one current student- | 3305.8997 |
2679 | | 3306.2714 | current member. | 3306.8254 |
2681 | | 3307.8182 | And I remember | 3309.0104 |
2683 | | 3309.2628 | listening- we had it on the radio. We listened to the prosecutor talk, | 3311.9067 |
2685 | | 3313.0218 | and | 3313.3093 |
2687 | | 3313.8252 | I personally- we had pulled over /?/ to drop one of the kids at the metro station- I pulled over. | 3317.5701 |
2689 | | 3318.0259 | And I'm just listening, but I was kind of in the zone, but- and they're ask- they're talking. The two of them are talking on the bus, | 3322.7496 |
2691 | | 3323.2545 | and I hear them, | 3324.2644 |
2693 | | 3324.9766 | but because I'm processing this myself, I- I'm just kind of in my own little world. | 3328.9810 |
2695 | | 3330.3064 | But the fact that that moment was shared | 3333.4872 |
2697 | | 3334.6233 | and so many other moments were shared | 3336.7834 |
2699 | | 3337.2080 | and so many more times they stepped up | 3339.3119 |
2701 | | 3340.1114 | and came out, | 3341.0020 |
2703 | | 3342.7412 | you know, I saw that cling, that- | 3344.3371 |
2705 | | 3344.7088 | That this was their place | 3346.5883 |
2707 | | 3347.0231 | of worth, | 3347.8786 |
2709 | | 3348.7833 | of value | 3349.7301 |
2711 | | 3350.6667 | and again, I just- I | 3352.4620 |
2713 | | 3352.8337 | go on all of my experiences that- | 3354.9937 |
2715 | | 3355.7200 | And it takes you to- in moments like that to realize, | 3358.3498 |
2717 | | 3359.2755 | the worth of your experiences. | 3361.1269 |
2718 | DCB_int_01 | 3361.1901 | Mm-hm. | 3361.7511 |
2719 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3362.6808 | This is their /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 3363.9220 |
2721 | | 3365.8997 | This is their, you know, I've had the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 3368.3441 |
2723 | | 3368.8771 | High School office | 3370.5813 |
2725 | | 3371.0862 | experience with a team | 3372.7973 |
2727 | | 3373.4605 | who I've had to pull him up | 3374.7158 |
2729 | | 3374.9963 | and say, | 3375.6976 |
2731 | | 3376.4691 | this is what you not gonna do | 3377.7594 |
2733 | | 3378.5238 | under my watch. | 3379.6898 |
2735 | | 3381.4452 | It's just not gonna happen like that. | 3382.8968 |
2737 | | 3383.5701 | Um, | 3384.1171 |
2739 | | 3385.0748 | so I watched them just- | 3386.3721 |
2741 | | 3386.8561 | and as I'm thinking back to that t- period of time, | 3389.0301 |
2743 | | 3389.9137 | they stepped up more. | 3390.8254 |
2745 | | 3391.6358 | They were more active. | 3392.4984 |
2747 | | 3393.6696 | They reached out more. | 3394.7636 |
2749 | | 3395.2194 | There were [more] conversations. There were more | 3397.1059 |
2750 | DCB_int_01 | 3395.4125 | [Mm.] | 3395.5365 |
2751 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3397.6078 | text messages. There were more- | 3399.1787 |
2753 | | 3399.9291 | And not specifically about what was happening. | 3402.8543 |
2755 | | 3405.4802 | Um, | 3406.0483 |
2757 | | 3406.7776 | and- and my kids are spoiled | 3408.3555 |
2759 | | 3408.6851 | because just of- cause of the way we do things. | 3410.9332 |
2760 | DCB_int_01 | 3411.0443 | Mm. | 3411.2894 |
2761 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3412.0342 | So I don't wanna say that the neediness | 3414.5168 |
2763 | | 3415.1129 | increased but their need for | 3417.3891 |
2765 | | 3417.8309 | validation, | 3418.9389 |
2766 | DCB_int_01 | 3418.9529 | Mm-hm. | 3419.3807 |
2767 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3420.0470 | it stepped up. | 3420.8293 |
2769 | | 3421.1590 | And I find myself giving more, | 3422.9823 |
2771 | | 3424.5672 | /but/ okay with that | 3425.5490 |
2773 | | 3427.5306 | because they were reaching for that. And I mean, you could- you could sense it and see- | 3431.6753 |
2775 | | 3432.4467 | and I think a part of me wanted | 3434.3510 |
2777 | | 3434.9332 | them to know | 3435.8239 |
2779 | | 3436.0623 | it's okay. | 3436.7145 |
2780 | DCB_int_01 | 3436.9685 | Mm-hm. | 3437.3498 |
2781 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3438.6992 | I know you don't wanna talk about it and you're not- you haven't quite figured out how to verbalize what you're [feeling,] | 3443.7664 |
2782 | DCB_int_01 | 3443.3520 | [Mm.] | 3443.6304 |
2783 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3444.3836 | but I see you. | 3445.5477 |
2784 | DCB_int_01 | 3447.5574 | Feeling [that.] | 3448.1745 |
2785 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3447.9431 | [I] know you, | 3448.8828 |
2786 | DCB_int_01 | 3448.7905 | Mm. | 3449.1385 |
2787 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3449.0862 | and it's okay. | 3449.9909 |
2788 | | 3451.3483 | This is your safe space. | 3452.7719 |
2790 | | 3454.3608 | You don't h- you don't have to do anything to earn it. | 3456.5632 |
2792 | | 3457.2155 | This is your safe space. | 3458.4426 |
2794 | | 3459.3978 | Let's be goofy and crazy and wild | 3461.9264 |
2796 | | 3462.3147 | and dream big and be successful and | 3464.8231 |
2798 | | 3465.2425 | be mad at each other. Let's- let's be all of that cause this is | 3468.4079 |
2800 | | 3468.8823 | your space, and it's alright. | 3470.4126 |
2801 | DCB_int_01 | 3471.4936 | Mm-hm. | 3471.8375 |
2802 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3472.4763 | It's okay. | 3473.0168 |
2803 | DCB_int_01 | 3474.0961 | Um, | 3474.7489 |
2805 | | 3475.5913 | so I'm'a just- I'm'a change it totally, [lighten it] up a little bit. Um, | 3479.2835 |
2806 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3477.6084 | [Mm-hm.] | 3477.9147 |
2807 | DCB_int_01 | 3480.7770 | what do you do for fun? | 3481.9001 |
2809 | | 3482.1599 | Cause I know you spend a lot of [time at nineteen] oh one and dealing with the goings ons | 3486.6998 |
2810 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3483.4023 | [<laugh>] | 3484.1744 |
2811 | DCB_int_01 | 3486.8262 | of Boys and Girls- What do you do for fun? What do you do to let your hair down? | 3489.9568 |
2812 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3489.9990 | Listen to music. | 3490.8904 |
2813 | DCB_int_01 | 3490.8072 | /Mm./ | 3491.0027 |
2814 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3491.9768 | Um, I'm a music junky. I got the chance to go see Jill Scott this weekend. | 3495.7519 |
2815 | DCB_int_01 | 3495.8937 | I don't want to hear it. | 3496.5465 |
2816 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3496.6588 | <laugh> | 3498.2435 |
2818 | | 3499.3456 | Um, | 3500.0054 |
2819 | DCB_int_01 | 3500.2090 | <cough> | 3500.5810 |
2820 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3500.5529 | I'm a simple person. | 3501.6761 |
2821 | | 3502.2166 | Doesn't take a- it doesn't take a lot. | 3503.5222 |
2823 | | 3504.1172 | Um, | 3504.5735 |
2825 | | 3504.7700 | top- top things I love to do is sit in a room and listen to music. | 3507.6269 |
2827 | | 3507.9639 | /Loudly/ listen to music all day. | 3509.0027 |
2829 | | 3509.7030 | Um, | 3510.2997 |
2831 | | 3511.9844 | I think again that was just embedded. My mom went to Howard for music. | 3515.4169 |
2832 | DCB_int_01 | 3516.0961 | [/Um, w- uh, yeah/.] | 3517.1140 |
2833 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3516.1382 | [Um, she sang.] | 3517.6825 |
2834 | | 3518.3915 | Uh, she still will do a little something if you tell her. When I go home, | 3521.6836 |
2836 | | 3522.3629 | a lot of times when I go home, we'll sit with the old Baptist hymnal. | 3525.5567 |
2838 | | 3526.0481 | We will flip through and [n- not-] the- We have seen these [pages every visit] | 3529.0718 |
2839 | DCB_int_01 | 3526.8915 | [Mm-hm.] | 3527.2697 |
2841 | | 3528.2018 | [/Any/ line of the hymn.] | 3529.4158 |
2842 | | 3529.5211 | [Mm.] | 3530.2300 |
2843 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3529.5562 | [and go] | 3529.9773 |
2845 | | 3530.2300 | each hymn by hymn and just sing | 3531.5216 |
2846 | | 3531.9428 | cause it- that was a- just a part of | 3533.7959 |
2848 | | 3534.1663 | you know, | 3534.6015 |
2850 | | 3534.9876 | our upbringing. When I was younger, | 3536.9460 |
2852 | | 3537.6339 | there was a white, blue and orange Fisher Price | 3541.6615 |
2854 | | 3542.0756 | radio | 3542.6723 |
2856 | | 3543.3461 | that set on my | 3544.9817 |
2858 | | 3545.2344 | bed frame | 3545.7819 |
2860 | | 3546.0119 | at the head- on the headboard. | 3547.2122 |
2862 | | 3547.5715 | Had a little microphone on the side in case you wanted to get real extra and sing. | 3550.8202 |
2864 | | 3551.4925 | Every night that mus- that radio played | 3553.5843 |
2866 | | 3553.8089 | classical music, | 3554.5389 |
2868 | | 3555.2830 | every night. | 3555.6480 |
2870 | | 3557.3116 | Every night. | 3557.7047 |
2872 | | 3559.3667 | And so it was- it was embedded in me, | 3561.2338 |
2874 | | 3561.5287 | and the power | 3562.3499 |
2876 | | 3562.9255 | of the- I think the power of the art while I was s- while I was such a student of the arts, | 3566.6933 |
2878 | | 3566.9811 | it was put in me. | 3568.0130 |
2879 | DCB_int_01 | 3568.4412 | [Mm.] | 3568.8834 |
2880 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3568.5886 | [Um], | 3569.0449 |
2881 | | 3569.3099 | but music for me is- is such an escape. | 3572.0616 |
2883 | | 3572.7776 | And I'm eclectic like crazy. Like, you go through my playlist there's | 3576.0610 |
2885 | | 3576.4401 | gospel, there's reggae, there's | 3578.2090 |
2887 | | 3578.4196 | hip hop, there's | 3579.4585 |
2889 | | 3579.8726 | jazz, there's- | 3580.9817 |
2890 | DCB_int_01 | 3581.0870 | Are you a go go fan? | 3581.9768 |
2891 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3582.0681 | I am. (whispered) | 3582.8823 |
2892 | DCB_int_01 | 3583.5211 | [Who's your favorite] group? Let's talk about go go because go go is a [very-] it's a- but it's a very DC thing. [There's no go go in like], | 3591.0934 |
2893 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3583.5562 | [I am.] | 3584.1177 |
2895 | | 3586.3429 | [Go go is huge.] | 3587.7889 |
2897 | | 3589.0859 | [It is. It's like Mumbo Sauce.] | 3591.0934 |
2898 | DCB_int_01 | 3591.6059 | Iowa. | 3592.0762 |
2899 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3592.0621 | Mm-mm. It's like Mumbo Sauce. Go go and Mumbo Sauce go hand in hand, | 3594.8542 |
2900 | | 3595.7176 | go hand in hand. I went to Baltimore and they told me, we don't have Mumbo Sauce. What is that? And I wanted to leave. | 3599.6750 |
2902 | | 3600.3559 | But um, | 3601.4018 |
2904 | | 3602.6512 | <sigh> Northeast Groovers, | 3604.3499 |
2906 | | 3605.1080 | Junkyard, | 3605.9908 |
2908 | | 3606.3418 | Rare Essence, | 3607.3105 |
2910 | | 3608.0124 | Backyard Band, | 3608.9671 |
2912 | | 3609.1847 | Chuck Brown. | 3609.9919 |
2914 | | 3610.9396 | There's a different- there's a different go go back in the day, | 3613.3105 |
2916 | | 3613.5772 | and I remember /mart/- my aunt- | 3615.0654 |
2918 | | 3615.7954 | I have a aunt that lived on Drum Avenue, Capital Heights, | 3617.9557 |
2920 | | 3618.1663 | /in the- you know/ the right across the- the- the line. | 3620.4196 |
2922 | | 3621.0794 | And uh, my cousins used to- they were heavy, | 3623.7257 |
2924 | | 3624.0400 | like they had the big bamboo chair. | 3626.3494 |
2926 | | 3626.6933 | I was- it was a picture of me sitting in the big bamboo chair with all the go go posters on the wall, | 3630.8121 |
2928 | | 3631.1491 | and I would go to the their house, and I would listen to Groovers | 3633.3461 |
2930 | | 3633.6199 | cause I was too young at that time to go to the go gos. | 3636.2506 |
2932 | | 3636.6998 | Uh and I- oh I actually- it was weird. I only went to a couple of actual go gos, | 3641.1923 |
2933 | DCB_int_01 | 3641.5205 | Mm. | 3641.9417 |
2934 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3642.1382 | but I loved | 3643.3105 |
2936 | | 3643.5772 | the music and listened to- I still have- I have tapes. | 3646.3920 |
2938 | | 3646.9606 | Northeast Groovers Locket is the greatest go go song ever made in life. | 3651.1215 |
2940 | | 3651.5778 | It will- it will change your perspective on [everything.] | 3655.0929 |
2941 | DCB_int_01 | 3654.1663 | [We'll have to do that one then] cause I- I don't know if I've [heard it.] | 3656.7214 |
2942 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3656.3073 | [Oh.] | 3656.7495 |
2943 | | 3657.0092 | Yeah. | 3657.2830 |
2945 | | 3657.8866 | When I um- | 3658.6939 |
2947 | | 3659.1906 | another former | 3659.9838 |
2949 | | 3660.1874 | thing you didn't know about my former life, | 3661.7668 |
2951 | | 3662.1388 | I danced. I studied dance for eight years. | 3664.4622 |
2952 | DCB_int_01 | 3664.8273 | I got a glimpse of that at the [circus.] | 3666.3980 |
2953 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3666.1874 | [Did] you? [<laugh>] | 3668.2090 |
2954 | DCB_int_01 | 3667.1210 | [Yes, mm-hm.] | 3668.6161 |
2955 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3669.0934 | But uh, through /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 3670.3569 |
2957 | | 3670.6798 | uh, this group game up. | 3671.9169 |
2958 | DCB_int_01 | 3672.0119 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ changed [your life.] | 3673.3064 |
2959 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3672.5664 | [/RD-SCHOOL-2/, they did.] | 3673.5772 |
2960 | | 3673.6755 | They did. This group came up and- and they were from Palmer Park Rec Center | 3677.3116 |
2962 | | 3677.7522 | in PG County. | 3678.6858 |
2963 | DCB_int_01 | 3678.8472 | Mm-hm. | 3679.1491 |
2964 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3679.2473 | Um, | 3679.8229 |
2966 | | 3680.5600 | but they- the ladies came and said, we wanna teach dance. And we learned- | 3683.9169 |
2968 | | 3684.3418 | I remember I did my first tap dance to Slide Some Oil to Me from The [Wiz.] | 3687.9358 |
2969 | DCB_int_01 | 3687.7743 | [Mm], [yes!] | 3689.0238 |
2970 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3688.7851 | [And] I remember when they teach you the flap and you do the- the weird- | 3691.7527 |
2971 | | 3692.0054 | the- s- the weird flap | 3693.3532 |
2973 | | 3693.5076 | and the shuffle cause you first learning | 3695.3678 |
2975 | | 3695.9066 | um, | 3696.5313 |
2977 | | 3696.7630 | how to tap dance, and I st- | 3698.2230 |
2979 | | 3698.4126 | just stuck with it for eight years. We | 3700.0972 |
2981 | | 3700.3780 | transitioned from the school | 3702.1382 |
2983 | | 3702.6858 | and um, | 3703.5632 |
2985 | | 3703.7597 | went to Palmer Park. | 3704.8197 |
2987 | | 3705.3110 | And they didn't have any boys in their program, so me and four of my friends, we were the only boys that went | 3709.6755 |
2989 | | 3710.1458 | to their program, and two dropped off so it was only three of us, and we stayed. | 3713.5713 |
2991 | | 3714.1453 | I stayed for eight. | 3714.9174 |
2993 | | 3715.1912 | My boy, /RD-NAME-2/ who's a mentor here at the Club now | 3717.8375 |
2995 | | 3718.3148 | stayed for nine, and then my other friend /RD-NAME-2/ is still dancing. He's danced for Ailey and | 3722.9460 |
2997 | | 3723.7392 | done all sorts of stuff all over the place, but | 3726.1453 |
2999 | | 3726.7981 | the discipline that came with that- | 3728.4477 |
3001 | | 3728.9531 | what we did- we danced w- a lot of our choreographed pieces were to go go. | 3732.7700 |
3003 | | 3733.0929 | And one of my favorite ones was to Locket | 3734.7776 |
3005 | | 3735.3321 | by Northeast Groovers. | 3736.2727 |
3007 | | 3736.8483 | And it was- | 3737.3818 |
3009 | | 3737.5837 | there's a freedom- there was a freedom about go go that was just- | 3740.6372 |
3011 | | 3741.9428 | because it was percussion. | 3743.1572 |
3013 | | 3743.3731 | Go go ain't nothing but percussion and shout outs. | 3745.1561 |
3015 | | 3745.5141 | That's it. | 3745.8370 |
3017 | | 3746.1739 | Pure, true go go, | 3747.2689 |
3019 | | 3747.6831 | percussion and shout outs, nothing else. | 3749.2063 |
3021 | | 3749.5416 | There's a new go go that's- that's now, and the sound is different. | 3753.0654 |
3022 | DCB_int_01 | 3753.4809 | Mm-hm. | 3753.8713 |
3023 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3753.8937 | I can't quite bang with it, but | 3755.5783 |
3025 | | 3755.8996 | you know, the old school, | 3757.6194 |
3027 | | 3758.0124 | that pocket beat, | 3759.1145 |
3029 | | 3759.4936 | and there's something that just, when you hear it, | 3761.1993 |
3031 | | 3761.7101 | it was so fresh. Just like- | 3763.4579 |
3033 | | 3764.1107 | and it was- It was DC. It was nobody else ha- you couldn't go anywhere and hear go go. | 3768.3208 |
3035 | | 3768.7700 | You couldn't go visit other places and have | 3771.3812 |
3036 | DCB_int_01 | 3771.6199 | Mm-hm. | 3771.9217 |
3037 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3771.9217 | a Chuck Brown. And you, when you heard his voice, | 3774.8472 |
3038 | | 3775.2473 | it was something that was magic. He was like the Pied Piper, | 3778.0551 |
3040 | | 3778.4131 | where you heard Chuck's voice or you heard the sound. | 3781.5772 |
3042 | | 3782.1669 | You know, and it was- it was great. I remember when it- it started, | 3784.8553 |
3044 | | 3785.2819 | the actual go gos took turn- took a turn for the worse. I remember watching this- | 3788.8618 |
3046 | | 3789.3812 | Channel Seven, ABC Seven did this report. | 3791.4660 |
3048 | | 3792.2295 | I had to have been in | 3793.2684 |
3050 | | 3794.0054 | middle- | 3794.6091 |
3052 | | 3795.0022 | middle school going into high school, | 3796.3569 |
3054 | | 3796.7360 | and they started doing this- this investigative report about the wild stuff happening at the go gos. | 3801.6199 |
3056 | | 3802.2727 | Like sexual assaults and- | 3803.7328 |
3058 | | 3804.1102 | and all these other thing- and I think that was when you started | 3806.0054 |
3060 | | 3806.5389 | seeing that there was a turn | 3808.1183 |
3062 | | 3808.3359 | um, | 3808.9185 |
3064 | | 3809.6539 | from it. But it- it- | 3810.6858 |
3066 | | 3811.1631 | it still to this day is iconic. | 3813.5708 |
3068 | | 3813.9358 | D- and I said r- it is iconic as Mumbo Sauce. | 3816.2506 |
3070 | | 3816.6717 | You can't- Those two things you will not find | 3819.8866 |
3072 | | 3820.7500 | [successfully] [duplicated] anywhere else. People will try | 3824.1528 |
3073 | DCB_int_01 | 3820.8106 | [Nowhere else.] | 3821.4784 |
3075 | | 3821.7873 | [Mm-mm.] | 3822.1102 |
3076 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3825.1005 | on both fronts, | 3826.1955 |
3078 | | 3827.5276 | go go and Mumbo, | 3828.7138 |
3080 | | 3829.0999 | and fail, | 3829.6545 |
3082 | | 3829.8580 | epically fail, | 3830.7355 |
3084 | | 3831.2058 | because it's- it's- it's something in the- | 3832.9817 |
3086 | | 3833.9206 | that same energy I felt when I was in that school. | 3836.2090 |
3088 | | 3837.1215 | There was an energy that came with it that | 3838.9045 |
3090 | | 3839.3591 | you don't have it, you can't make it. | 3840.6156 |
3091 | DCB_int_01 | 3841.2249 | What is- what is- okay. Let's go to mumbo sauce, | 3843.4406 |
3093 | | 3843.6388 | cause I hear- | 3844.9838 |
3095 | | 3845.1396 | you know I am going to try to some | 3847.2178 |
3096 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3847.3523 | <laugh> | 3847.8371 |
3097 | DCB_int_01 | 3847.6851 | at some point. I really am. | 3849.2991 |
3098 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3849.3415 | Okay. | 3849.7238 |
3099 | DCB_int_01 | 3849.8158 | Um, I don't know when that's gonna be | 3851.7951 |
3100 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3851.8658 | <laugh> | 3852.1914 |
3101 | DCB_int_01 | 3852.2197 | Um- | 3852.9134 |
3102 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3853.1754 | You were gonna ask me what it is? | 3854.4850 |
3103 | DCB_int_01 | 3854.6336 | Mm-hm. | 3855.0442 |
3104 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3855.0513 | I don't know. | 3855.5468 |
3105 | DCB_int_01 | 3857.2316 | Mkay. | 3857.6422 |
3107 | | 3857.8304 | [Alright.] | 3858.1772 |
3108 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3857.9649 | [It's ketchup] | 3858.4816 |
3109 | | 3859.5718 | and something else. | 3860.2797 |
3110 | DCB_int_01 | 3860.7469 | Right it's like- | 3861.4619 |
3112 | | 3861.7663 | I think I had have it but didn't know that's what I was having. It's like a sweet hot | 3865.3948 |
3114 | | 3865.5930 | [something.] | 3866.0138 |
3115 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3865.8691 | [Uh-huh.] | 3866.2938 |
3116 | | 3866.6336 | It's like go go. | 3867.4760 |
3118 | | 3868.0919 | It's a little bit of everything, | 3869.1467 |
3120 | | 3870.0994 | and if you- you hear- if you ever like- like, youtube | 3872.6832 |
3122 | | 3873.0938 | interviews with Chuck Brown and you hear him talk about | 3875.4227 |
3124 | | 3875.9720 | what go go is and it's | 3877.5293 |
3126 | | 3877.6780 | salsa and merengue | 3879.1362 |
3128 | | 3879.5893 | and hip hop and pop and jazz | 3881.8333 |
3130 | | 3882.1277 | and big band. | 3883.1612 |
3132 | | 3884.1310 | And you had- | 3884.7398 |
3134 | | 3884.8672 | I mean you had young people walking around who didn't even realize that they were now | 3887.8404 |
3136 | | 3888.3259 | um, | 3888.9276 |
3138 | | 3889.4656 | you know, multi linguistic in music | 3891.3344 |
3140 | | 3891.4548 | cause they were listening | 3892.4317 |
3142 | | 3892.9201 | to all of these different things and exposed to all of these different- | 3897.0017 |
3144 | | 3897.3698 | and oh, you know, hey, hey that's go go! Nah, son, that's jazz. | 3900.5029 |
3146 | | 3900.9276 | And how much you know, the- the Latino culture influenced Chuck's | 3904.9838 |
3148 | | 3905.2953 | music. | 3905.7979 |
3149 | DCB_int_01 | 3906.1631 | [Mm.] | 3906.5170 |
3150 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3906.4038 | [And] how much that | 3907.5293 |
3151 | | 3907.6709 | was a part of that you- you know, | 3909.2991 |
3153 | | 3910.1414 | exposed to all those different things. | 3911.6563 |
3155 | | 3911.9436 | So Mumbo Sauce is just like, | 3913.1754 |
3157 | | 3913.4444 | go go. It's a little of this, | 3914.6478 |
3159 | | 3915.0088 | and really good Mumbo? Nobody knows what- what's in it. | 3917.4864 |
3161 | | 3918.2622 | Could be cornstarch. It could be this, could be that. | 3920.4637 |
3163 | | 3921.0371 | But the perfect- | 3921.7379 |
3165 | | 3922.0848 | the perfect ones are the perfect mix | 3924.7365 |
3167 | | 3924.9772 | of a lot of different stuff. | 3926.0390 |
3168 | DCB_int_01 | 3926.0107 | What- | 3926.3576 |
3169 | | 3926.6266 | where do you- where do you eat? | 3928.0777 |
3171 | | 3928.2122 | Where, like- | 3929.0334 |
3173 | | 3929.3803 | where do you get | 3930.4462 |
3175 | | 3930.5737 | said mumbo sauce? | 3931.7983 |
3176 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3931.9045 | See I'd go to carry out, | 3933.1221 |
3178 | | 3933.4477 | so now, | 3934.0353 |
3180 | | 3934.4529 | Hamilton's, | 3935.6351 |
3182 | | 3936.0286 | uh, down on fourteenth street, | 3937.6355 |
3184 | | 3938.3363 | uh, has now | 3939.6176 |
3186 | | 3940.0919 | delivered the district wing | 3941.7625 |
3188 | | 3942.2126 | with Mumbo S- And you know, Hamilton's real nice, refined | 3944.7611 |
3190 | | 3945.1221 | restaurant. I have not eaten this | 3946.7927 |
3192 | | 3946.9838 | yet, and there's a part of me that does not want to | 3949.1187 |
3194 | | 3949.7204 | because I think it's a cardinal sin. | 3951.4760 |
3196 | | 3952.0282 | Because unless you are getting it from an Asian | 3954.7719 |
3198 | | 3955.2462 | person, | 3955.8762 |
3200 | | 3956.3859 | which is odd because when it was first made, it was not made by Asians. It was made by African Americans cooking in | 3961.2391 |
3202 | | 3961.6426 | little small kitchens in- [in DC.] | 3964.1910 |
3203 | DCB_int_01 | 3963.3274 | [Little hole in the walls.] Mm. | 3964.7502 |
3204 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3964.7573 | And it still is. The best place to get it is little hole in the wall carry out. | 3967.6709 |
3206 | | 3968.2868 | Can't get it from a clean place. | 3969.3557 |
3208 | | 3969.6884 | Terrible thing to say, but | 3970.8777 |
3210 | | 3971.7737 | [you know.] | 3972.2410 |
3211 | DCB_int_01 | 3971.8658 | [But carry] out means something different, right? | 3973.4585 |
3212 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3973.5789 | It does. I mean- I mean carry out's Chinese food, so | 3976.0211 |
3214 | | 3976.5449 | [you gotta-] | 3977.0617 |
3215 | DCB_int_01 | 3976.6794 | [But it's not] just Chinese food. | 3977.6705 |
3216 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3977.7313 | It's not. | 3978.0852 |
3218 | | 3978.2693 | So it's Chinese and American food. | 3979.8125 |
3219 | DCB_int_01 | 3979.8691 | Mm-hm. | 3980.2443 |
3220 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3980.6903 | [And it's-] | 3981.2283 |
3221 | DCB_int_01 | 3980.7044 | [And I can get] my steak and cheese. [I can get] | 3982.8706 |
3222 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3982.2618 | [Oh yeah.] | 3982.8352 |
3223 | DCB_int_01 | 3983.2953 | fried [shrimp. I can] | 3984.7082 |
3224 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3983.7171 | [Five wings and fries.] | 3984.8214 |
3225 | DCB_int_01 | 3984.9559 | Mm. | 3985.4727 |
3226 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 3985.6851 | Ketchup, Mumbo Sauce, salt and pepper. | 3987.0725 |
3228 | | 3987.3486 | All day. | 3987.8300 |
3230 | | 3988.5945 | And you gotta order it just like- it's like going to Philly and getting a cheese steak. You- | 3991.4798 |
3232 | | 3991.7771 | there's a way that Philadelphians order a cheese steak that lets you know that they're from there. | 3995.6422 |
3233 | DCB_int_01 | 3996.2268 | Okay so how do I sound like | 3997.7912 |
3235 | | 3998.0744 | authentic DC when I order me some mumbo [Sauce.] | 4000.7466 |
3236 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4000.5025 | [Five wings with fries.] | 4001.7059 |
3237 | DCB_int_01 | 4000.9191 | [I mean-. | 4001.2036 |
3239 | | 4001.9224 | Five wings and [fries.] | 4003.2886 |
3240 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4003.0975 | [Yup.] | 4003.3382 |
3241 | | 4003.4727 | Ketchup, mumbo Sauce, salt and pepper. | 4004.7327 |
3242 | DCB_int_01 | 4005.1858 | Ketchup, mumbo Sauce, salt and pepper. | 4006.8989 |
3243 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4006.8989 | Yup. | 4007.1608 |
3244 | DCB_int_01 | 4007.9295 | But do I really need the ketchup if I'm'a got the mumbo sauce. | 4010.3788 |
3245 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4010.2938 | On your french fries. | 4011.3628 |
3246 | DCB_int_01 | 4011.9149 | But see now- now, wait a minute now, cause I've seen the kids when I was at Clubhouse Two. | 4015.6143 |
3247 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4015.6355 | [Mm-hm.] | 4016.0532 |
3248 | DCB_int_01 | 4015.9045 | [This is] when I first started working so I had no clue- | 4018.1627 |
3249 | | 4018.3397 | cause in college I didn't know about mumbo [Sauce.] | 4019.9137 |
3250 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4019.8516 | [Mm-hm.] | 4020.2126 |
3251 | DCB_int_01 | 4020.2011 | I knew a little bit about go go, couldn't stand it. | 4022.3527 |
3252 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4022.7540 | <laugh> | 4023.2141 |
3253 | DCB_int_01 | 4024.6087 | So I- every day, there w- it was this little | 4026.5029 |
3255 | | 4026.6798 | joint like, | 4027.2249 |
3257 | | 4027.3665 | down the street. | 4028.2160 |
3258 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4028.2372 | Mm-hm. | 4028.6478 |
3259 | DCB_int_01 | 4029.4831 | And, I can't remember what- | 4031.8899 |
3261 | | 4032.0711 | something it was called, but they would go | 4033.7771 |
3263 | | 4034.1452 | before they came to the Club, | 4035.6884 |
3265 | | 4036.1273 | and they would go | 4036.8493 |
3267 | | 4037.1042 | get they chicken wings and mumbo sauce [for they french] fries. But they put it in everything. | 4041.0796 |
3268 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4039.0338 | [Mm-hm.] | 4039.5435 |
3269 | | 4041.1079 | Mm-hm. | 4041.4477 |
3271 | | 4042.0565 | And I think- I mean- it- | 4042.8564 |
3273 | | 4043.2741 | of course, like it- with anything, there's always going to be variations. I know people who get it w- five wings and fried rice. | 4048.0913 |
3275 | | 4049.2882 | And they'll get mumbo sauce on the fried rice. I'm not quite with that game. | 4052.1381 |
3277 | | 4052.8035 | Um, | 4053.4548 |
3279 | | 4054.6653 | but | 4054.9626 |
3281 | | 4055.2953 | mumbo sauce had to be in the picture. | 4056.9134 |
3283 | | 4057.1824 | There was a place- it's no longer open. It's called Houng Pho | 4059.9149 |
3285 | | 4060.9484 | right near the DC | 4062.8781 |
3287 | | 4063.0975 | Eastern Avenue | 4064.2018 |
3289 | | 4064.4637 | border. PG DC border. | 4065.9786 |
3291 | | 4066.5803 | The best- | 4067.8616 |
3293 | | 4068.2693 | Houng Pho was open when I was in elementary school. | 4070.0602 |
3294 | DCB_int_01 | 4070.4637 | At [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] | 4071.1008 |
3295 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4070.7964 | [The-] at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. Yeah. | 4072.2122 |
3296 | | 4072.4104 | Right next to | 4073.7979 |
3298 | | 4074.0711 | [uh-] | 4074.6835 |
3299 | DCB_int_01 | 4074.4250 | [Was that] the golden years of your life? | 4075.7063 |
3300 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4075.8337 | It was. [I mean] those were good years. | 4078.1556 |
3301 | DCB_int_01 | 4076.3080 | [Mm.] | 4076.6053 |
3302 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4078.6794 | Those were- I mean, good years for so many reasons cause it- | 4080.7506 |
3304 | | 4081.8903 | it was family- it's- every- it was like family reunion every day. | 4085.4864 |
3305 | DCB_int_01 | 4085.7059 | Mm. | 4086.0528 |
3306 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4086.1914 | Like [black family reunion.] | 4087.5440 |
3307 | DCB_int_01 | 4086.4887 | [Everything you can remember] that was good in your life happened | 4088.8318 |
3308 | | 4088.9663 | while you were at [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] | 4090.1768 |
3309 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4089.6318 | [Yeah.] | 4090.0211 |
3310 | DCB_int_01 | 4090.3963 | Not to say other things weren't [good, but that- those were] golden years [for you.] | 4093.6638 |
3311 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4091.3348 | [No, no, no, but it was-] | 4092.5029 |
3313 | | 4093.2037 | [Those are-] Those eight years are years I will never- | 4095.9811 |
3314 | | 4096.7715 | I mean simple things. I can remember when we used to take spelling tests | 4100.1027 |
3315 | DCB_int_01 | 4100.7894 | Loved it. | 4101.3628 |
3316 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4101.4406 | on the half a sheet of paper, | 4103.0829 |
3318 | | 4103.4935 | and it wasn't a p- now, the teacher didn't have to tear it, | 4106.3576 |
3320 | | 4106.8248 | she ordered it from a magical paper store that sent | 4110.0528 |
3322 | | 4110.2976 | half sheets of paper. | 4111.7417 |
3323 | DCB_int_01 | 4111.7912 | <laugh> | 4112.3363 |
3324 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4112.6195 | And it was something special about spelling day when you got this half sheet of paper, | 4116.9134 |
3326 | | 4117.3169 | and you had to number it one to ten | 4119.3557 |
3328 | | 4120.1273 | and spell these ten words right. | 4121.6280 |
3330 | | 4121.8304 | They're- they're- they're visuals. They're photographs in my mind [I have] | 4126.1273 |
3331 | DCB_int_01 | 4125.4052 | [Kids know nothing] [about this.] | 4127.1183 |
3332 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4126.6299 | [of the school.] | 4127.2528 |
3333 | | 4127.3449 | Nothing. | 4128.0598 |
3334 | DCB_int_01 | 4128.2480 | [Nothing.] | 4128.9984 |
3335 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4128.6374 | [I remember] the open space, and the- the- the bulletin board and the chalk board that was the divider. | 4134.7011 |
3336 | DCB_int_01 | 4134.7365 | [Mm-hm.] | 4135.1683 |
3337 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4134.9984 | [And there] was another class on side of- of the chalk board but you would never know | 4138.0919 |
3338 | | 4138.3397 | cause you- you were so engrossed in what your teacher was doing. | 4141.0975 |
3340 | | 4141.8266 | It was right there. | 4142.5628 |
3342 | | 4142.8318 | I remember /RD-NAME-4/ | 4144.3043 |
3344 | | 4145.0475 | who was the- I don't even know what Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s title was, | 4147.8408 |
3346 | | 4148.5487 | but she was like the everything. You would have thought she was assistant principal. She was never that. She's like the program coordinator. | 4154.0602 |
3348 | | 4154.3363 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ had taught, | 4155.6672 |
3350 | | 4155.9999 | but by the time I got | 4157.2528 |
3352 | | 4157.9861 | there, she was no longer a teacher. She was this administrator. | 4160.5982 |
3354 | | 4161.3061 | Um, | 4161.8724 |
3356 | | 4163.2812 | next to Miss /RD-NAME-2/, Miss /RD-NAME-2/ was /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 4165.3594 |
3358 | | 4166.5204 | You had Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. You had /RD-NAME-5/. You had /RD-NAME-4/. | 4170.2834 |
3360 | | 4170.9418 | Uh, you had /RD-NAME-3/, | 4172.5487 |
3362 | | 4172.7681 | the librarian. | 4173.6884 |
3364 | | 4174.5095 | [Um-] | 4175.1467 |
3365 | DCB_int_01 | 4174.5095 | [I knew the li- I] | 4175.3490 |
3366 | | 4175.5543 | I was [wondering when the librarian was gonna] come in because | 4177.7771 |
3367 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4175.8333 | [Oh yeah, she was right there.] | 4176.8781 |
3368 | DCB_int_01 | 4178.0178 | you can't have a good school | 4179.8087 |
3369 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4179.8866 | Without [a librarian.] | 4180.9895 |
3370 | DCB_int_01 | 4180.1344 | [without a good librarian.] | 4181.2033 |
3371 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4181.2741 | /RD-NAME-3/. /RD-NAME-4/. And for some rea- You remember these people middle names. That's how you knew- | 4186.0191 |
3373 | | 4186.3680 | it was /RD-NAME-5/, | 4188.1519 |
3374 | DCB_int_01 | 4187.9082 | <laugh> | 4188.6728 |
3375 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4188.7648 | /RD-NAME-4/. [U- You] remember. | 4191.0584 |
3376 | DCB_int_01 | 4190.0390 | [/?/] | 4190.4354 |
3377 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4191.5256 | You remember these people's | 4192.9149 |
3379 | | 4193.1246 | um, | 4193.5750 |
3381 | | 4194.2976 | names. But /RD-SCHOOL-4/ had a- a friend, | 4196.7171 |
3383 | | 4197.7811 | and this was back in the day, where, you know, corporal punishment wasn't in the picture. | 4201.7262 |
3385 | | 4202.7249 | Her- her friend was called /RD-NAME-2/. | 4204.6508 |
3387 | | 4206.6312 | /RD-NAME-2/ was | 4207.3146 |
3389 | | 4207.4621 | about three yard sticks taped together. | 4209.8354 |
3391 | | 4211.3575 | And /RD-NAME-4/ would walk into the cafeteria. | 4213.9871 |
3393 | | 4214.8181 | She asked you be quiet, | 4216.1228 |
3395 | | 4217.4663 | and you didn't, /RD-NAME-2/ (whispered) | 4219.0893 |
3397 | | 4219.3845 | wham! | 4219.8970 |
3399 | | 4220.4375 | On the table. | 4221.0355 |
3401 | | 4221.6180 | I tell you you hear a pin drop, and I mean you can- I can- to to this day I can hear, | 4225.1282 |
3403 | | 4225.6687 | I told you be quiet! | 4226.5696 |
3405 | | 4227.2996 | /RD-NAME-2/ had a word where you knew she was cussing, but she couldn't cuss cause- so she didn't say a cuss word. | 4231.7029 |
3406 | DCB_int_01 | 4231.7805 | So [she wasn't like the other lady.] | 4232.9579 |
3407 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4232.0393 | [But she said, blame it.] | 4233.1831 |
3408 | | 4233.8044 | And you knew she was really saying the other [word], | 4235.9711 |
3409 | DCB_int_01 | 4235.6682 | [Mm-hm.] | 4236.1497 |
3410 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4236.3361 | but she said, blame it! | 4237.4311 |
3412 | | 4237.7386 | And I can hear her | 4238.8647 |
3414 | | 4239.2219 | now | 4239.7345 |
3416 | | 4240.2237 | saying it. | 4240.7363 |
3418 | | 4241.3498 | But as much as she did that, | 4242.6700 |
3420 | | 4243.2447 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ can say blame it | 4244.7948 |
3422 | | 4245.3306 | and be good. | 4245.9830 |
3423 | DCB_int_01 | 4245.9674 | But Miss [what's name-] | 4247.1556 |
3424 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4246.6353 | [Oh, Miss /RD-NAME-1/? | 4247.4585 |
3425 | | 4247.6216 | [No,] Miss /RD-NAME-1/ cursed at- | 4249.3379 |
3426 | DCB_int_01 | 4247.6216 | [Miss /RD-NAME-1/.] | 4248.1730 |
3427 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4249.8659 | at | 4250.2387 |
3429 | | 4250.5152 | us. | 4251.0899 |
3431 | | 4252.7363 | There was a pride built into /RD-SCHOOL-2/ students so strong, | 4255.5864 |
3433 | | 4256.0027 | it was almost a how | 4257.5170 |
3435 | | 4257.9286 | dare you? | 4258.6819 |
3436 | DCB_int_01 | 4258.9925 | [Mm.] | 4259.3109 |
3437 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4259.1090 | [Do you] know who we are? | 4260.3749 |
3438 | DCB_int_01 | 4260.5380 | Hm. | 4260.8253 |
3439 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4261.5864 | We are the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Eagles, | 4263.0666 |
3441 | | 4263.5248 | and you have [lost your mind. You cursed] at us. You got to go. | 4266.2988 |
3442 | DCB_int_01 | 4264.1771 | [<laugh>] | 4264.9615 |
3443 | | 4267.1748 | And she went. | 4267.7495 |
3444 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4267.7029 | She went. | 4268.1766 |
3445 | DCB_int_01 | 4268.4298 | Very quickly. | 4269.0200 |
3446 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4269.4549 | But I- I mean just- those were- those were | 4271.7769 |
3448 | | 4272.6467 | special y- <laugh> | 4273.6563 |
3450 | | 4274.0958 | I- I don't know why I remember this. My mom- | 4276.1383 |
3452 | | 4276.2470 | And I mean the parents were there. The- | 4278.1419 |
3454 | | 4279.0505 | They would have- when Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ left, they had a going away for him, | 4281.9441 |
3456 | | 4282.4179 | and I remember my mom bringing a rum cake | 4284.7787 |
3458 | | 4285.6640 | to school. And I thought it was the funniest thing cause she had= | 4287.9907 |
3460 | | 4288.4878 | rum cake, and I mean | 4289.8934 |
3462 | | 4290.1807 | this is one of them cakes where you- you spoon the rum over the cake three days- [once] a day for three [days.] | 4294.6431 |
3463 | DCB_int_01 | 4293.3706 | [Mm.] | 4293.5885 |
3465 | | 4294.2815 | [<laugh>.] | 4294.6415 |
3466 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4295.1168 | And so when you take this top off this cake, | 4297.0738 |
3468 | | 4298.4375 | okay, cool. | 4299.5791 |
3470 | | 4299.8044 | And of course no children ate the cake. It was for the staff and the- and the parents, | 4303.4311 |
3472 | | 4304.1813 | but I mean just- there were moments | 4306.1072 |
3474 | | 4306.8139 | that | 4307.3265 |
3476 | | 4308.5768 | only could happen in a family | 4310.3892 |
3477 | DCB_int_01 | 4310.5367 | [Environment.] | 4311.0511 |
3478 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4310.5618 | in a [community] environment. | 4312.2004 |
3479 | | 4312.7673 | The even- | 4313.7303 |
3481 | | 4314.7166 | I remember falling asleep. I remember I have horrible allergies. | 4318.1305 |
3483 | | 4318.8139 | I mean bad, | 4320.0642 |
3485 | | 4320.5302 | and one day it was so bad Miss /RD-NAME-2/ felt so bad for me. | 4323.8820 |
3487 | | 4324.6508 | Teachers and parents are- they not supposed to give no medicine to the children. | 4327.7339 |
3489 | | 4328.4997 | But because that's Miss /RD-NAME-2/ and she knows, and she knows Miss /RD-NAME-2/ was around the corner | 4332.4059 |
3491 | | 4333.1515 | Was it fine? Yup. They gave me Tylenol Allergy. I'll never forget. | 4336.5654 |
3493 | | 4336.7440 | I slept six hours | 4338.3438 |
3495 | | 4338.9418 | on the green leather sticky stinky [sofa] | 4342.6974 |
3496 | DCB_int_01 | 4342.0762 | [<laugh>] | 4342.7207 |
3497 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4343.0857 | in the main office. | 4344.1652 |
3499 | | 4344.3749 | And this one of them sofas with the wooden bench but the green | 4347.2141 |
3501 | | 4347.7578 | cushion that they had tied with [twine to the bench.] | 4351.0505 |
3502 | DCB_int_01 | 4349.5983 | [<laugh>] | 4351.0971 |
3503 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4351.9017 | And slept on there for six hours. | 4353.3539 |
3505 | | 4353.4704 | Tylenol knocked me out completely, | 4355.1556 |
3507 | | 4355.2721 | and that- /to this/ day I have never used Tylenol Allergy cause I was- I don't never wanna sleep like that, that hard. | 4359.8820 |
3509 | | 4360.5965 | But there were just- there were m- I mean, I could go on- there are pictures | 4363.4311 |
3510 | DCB_int_01 | 4364.0328 | /In just-/ | 4364.3384 |
3511 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4364.5307 | [in my] head | 4365.3384 |
3512 | DCB_int_01 | 4364.5714 | [Mm-hm.] | 4364.8922 |
3513 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4365.8820 | um, of those moments that | 4367.6915 |
3515 | | 4368.3593 | again were validating | 4369.7262 |
3517 | | 4370.5385 | and let you know that | 4371.6257 |
3519 | | 4372.6897 | you were special and somebody cared and your life meant something and | 4376.5230 |
3521 | | 4377.6413 | you know. | 4378.0373 |
3523 | | 4378.5887 | [I try] to use that. | 4379.4430 |
3524 | DCB_int_01 | 4378.6115 | [If you-] | 4378.8113 |
3525 | | 4379.5672 | if you could leave- that's what I was just gonna ask you- if you could leave, | 4382.1424 |
3527 | | 4382.9113 | a piece of advice, | 4384.0839 |
3529 | | 4384.8450 | and you do this on a daily basis, but if we could sum it up, put a bow on it, you could have a piece of advice | 4389.9364 |
3531 | | 4390.4412 | to the young people, to the old peo- to whomever, | 4393.8582 |
3533 | | 4394.3211 | like in today's time, thinking about all your journey and everything that's | 4399.1359 |
3535 | | 4399.7386 | up to this point. What would that piece of advice be? | 4401.9441 |
3536 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4402.1538 | Create moments that matter. | 4403.6915 |
3538 | | 4405.1981 | At the end of the day that's all we have. | 4406.7171 |
3540 | | 4408.5266 | We have moments that matter. | 4409.6526 |
3542 | | 4410.7476 | Moments that made you better. | 4412.4841 |
3544 | | 4413.5092 | Moments that helped you forgive. | 4415.6138 |
3545 | DCB_int_01 | 4416.1264 | Hm. | 4416.3671 |
3546 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4416.8020 | Um, | 4417.3534 |
3548 | | 4417.9172 | moments that | 4418.9967 |
3550 | | 4420.0063 | made you laugh. Like that | 4421.5750 |
3552 | | 4421.9400 | gut | 4422.4370 |
3554 | | 4422.6389 | wrenching | 4423.2757 |
3556 | | 4423.7184 | side hurting, tears down your [face], laugh, | 4427.2566 |
3557 | DCB_int_01 | 4426.1538 | [Face.] | 4426.5576 |
3558 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4427.9167 | that twenty years later you can think about it and still laugh just as hard. | 4431.5636 |
3560 | | 4432.3091 | Um, | 4432.7673 |
3562 | | 4433.1634 | create moments that matter | 4434.3438 |
3564 | | 4434.8564 | with people that you love, with | 4436.5929 |
3566 | | 4437.2530 | somebody that doesn't have what you | 4438.6664 |
3568 | | 4438.9848 | have. | 4439.4197 |
3569 | DCB_int_01 | 4440.3516 | I remember- | 4441.2291 |
3571 | | 4442.6472 | And it's so funny you talk about create moments that matter. | 4445.0003 |
3573 | | 4445.3808 | Every time I wear this shirt, | 4446.6700 |
3575 | | 4447.2447 | I always- when I'm traveling I try to wear it. | 4449.1598 |
3577 | | 4449.7189 | I- I'm very intentional | 4451.1556 |
3578 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4451.3886 | Mm-hm. | 4451.7381 |
3579 | DCB_int_01 | 4451.8235 | like, when I wear it. | 4452.7321 |
3581 | | 4453.7231 | But I remember one of the things | 4455.6413 |
3583 | | 4456.3946 | was just seeing | 4457.5828 |
3585 | | 4457.7924 | The Arc | 4458.6778 |
3587 | | 4459.9716 | filled with kids and people on a Saturday, | 4463.2644 |
3589 | | 4463.8779 | and I remember | 4465.0893 |
3591 | | 4466.0958 | the slide show. | 4467.2141 |
3592 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4467.4937 | Mm. | 4467.8665 |
3593 | DCB_int_01 | 4468.5033 | That thing touched me in a place that I can't even really talk about. | 4471.4311 |
3594 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4471.3767 | Yeah. | 4471.7029 |
3595 | DCB_int_01 | 4471.9405 | How- | 4472.5773 |
3597 | | 4473.1442 | I can't talk about what that meant and how that felt. I just felt- | 4476.6778 |
3599 | | 4477.0661 | I felt hurt | 4478.3892 |
3601 | | 4478.7792 | but I felt reverent- like I need to just- | 4480.7829 |
3603 | | 4481.4818 | This is a moment of reverence. Like I need to just realize | 4484.8258 |
3605 | | 4485.0278 | the struggle that we've had, | 4486.8217 |
3606 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_01 | 4486.7751 | Yup. | 4487.0547 |
3607 | DCB_int_01 | 4487.5439 | um, and how much we've overcome. | 4489.5009 |
3609 | &n |