Line | Speaker | St Time | Content | En Time |
1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.4754 | And birthday? | 1.2215 |
2 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1.7717 | Twelve twenty three, | 2.9001 |
4 | | 2.9934 | nineteen eighty three. | 4.2605 |
5 | DCB_int_01 | 6.7925 | And where were you born? | 7.6178 |
6 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 7.7950 | <ts> | 7.9116 |
8 | | 7.9815 | Was born and raised in Washington DC. | 10.2617 |
10 | | 10.7222 | Um, more specifically, | 12.0837 |
12 | | 12.2143 | I was, uh, born in Columbia Hospital For Women, | 15.4084 |
14 | | 16.0740 | which is now | 16.8434 |
16 | | 17.1465 | a Whole Foods. | 18.2609 |
18 | | 18.5827 | Nope, Trader Joes. | 19.7531 |
19 | DCB_int_01 | 21.5110 | And what neighborhood did you grow up in? | 22.9320 |
20 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 23.1698 | I grew up east of the river. | 24.5780 |
22 | | 24.6759 | Um, | 25.2308 |
24 | | 25.4873 | <ts> | 25.6225 |
26 | | 25.6971 | there was a | 26.8349 |
28 | | 27.5389 | uh, housing | 28.4249 |
30 | | 28.7175 | uh, area called Stanton Hill Apartments. | 31.5013 |
32 | | 31.6365 | Now it's called Stanton Glen. | 32.8675 |
33 | DCB_int_01 | 39.5389 | And have you lived in the District all your life? | 41.3470 |
34 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 41.5102 | <ts> | 41.6967 |
36 | | 41.9345 | I- | 42.4101 |
38 | | 42.8391 | I've- | 43.3474 |
40 | | 44.7836 | DC has been my home base all of my life, | 47.5340 |
42 | | 47.6501 | but I've bounced around a bit. | 48.9184 |
43 | DCB_int_01 | 49.5572 | What are some other places you lived? | 50.9421 |
44 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 50.9607 | <ts> Um, I lived in Baltimore for a while, | 53.2491 |
46 | | 53.4263 | and | 54.1210 |
48 | | 54.4241 | there was a while when I was on tour, | 56.2846 |
50 | | 56.4572 | uh, | 56.8209 |
52 | | 56.9654 | performing, | 57.5949 |
54 | | 58.0600 | and I wasn't really | 59.1325 |
56 | | 59.3423 | living anywhere. I was just kind of everywhere. | 61.1749 |
57 | DCB_int_01 | 62.1447 | And how many years would you say you were doing that? | 64.6767 |
58 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 65.1745 | <ts> | 65.2351 |
60 | | 65.3050 | Uh, that was about a year. | 66.3355 |
61 | DCB_int_01 | 66.6853 | That was about a year? And how [long] did you live in Baltimore? | 68.4292 |
62 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 67.4453 | [Yeah.] | 67.6365 |
64 | | 68.3965 | <ts> | 68.5411 |
65 | | 68.6343 | I lived in Baltimore for about a year as well. | 70.2897 |
66 | DCB_int_01 | 70.3818 | Okay. | 70.7268 |
68 | | 76.3352 | Um, where'd you go to school? | 77.4263 |
69 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 78.6666 | Which- uh, | 79.5479 |
71 | | 79.7297 | <laugh> which level? | 80.7369 |
73 | | 81.1613 | Um- <laugh> | 82.0472 |
74 | DCB_int_01 | 82.2279 | Let's [go through 'em.] | 83.0486 |
75 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 82.4424 | [I went-] | 83.0253 |
76 | | 83.3144 | Okay. | 83.6594 |
78 | | 83.8972 | Cool. | 84.1677 |
80 | | 84.3915 | Alright well, | 85.3194 |
82 | | 85.4546 | we'll start | 85.9302 |
84 | | 86.0748 | from the beginning. | 86.8209 |
85 | DCB_int_01 | 86.9794 | Okay. | 87.4970 |
86 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 87.6077 | I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School. | 89.0859 |
87 | DCB_int_01 | 89.1232 | Mm-hm. | 89.4535 |
88 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 89.3834 | <ts> | 89.4356 |
89 | | 89.4636 | Um, | 90.2050 |
91 | | 91.0070 | and then, after /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 92.7416 |
93 | | 93.2079 | went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Junior High School, | 94.7641 |
95 | | 95.3050 | which recently got knocked down. | 96.7832 |
97 | | 97.2728 | <ts> | 97.3520 |
99 | | 97.3847 | Um, | 98.1168 |
101 | | 98.6856 | then, | 99.2125 |
103 | | 99.5669 | I went to | 100.4992 |
105 | | 100.9063 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 101.6874 |
106 | DCB_int_01 | 101.9392 | Mm. | 102.2843 |
107 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 102.2003 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/, | 103.3194 |
108 | | 104.1074 | and /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 105.4877 |
110 | | 106.1393 | And then closed out | 106.9460 |
112 | | 107.0766 | high school | 107.8180 |
114 | | 107.9812 | at | 108.4708 |
116 | | 109.0443 | /RD-SCHOOL-14/ High School. | 112.1405 |
117 | DCB_int_01 | 117.8840 | And then | 118.6441 |
119 | | 119.0719 | did you go to college? | 119.9532 |
120 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 120.4381 | I went to college for a little bit. | 121.6645 |
122 | | 122.0188 | Um, | 122.6623 |
124 | | 122.8349 | for a stint | 123.6042 |
126 | | 123.8782 | I attended /RD-SCHOOL-8/. | 126.5454 |
128 | | 127.1003 | I- as well as /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 128.3872 |
130 | | 130.1498 | But | 130.3363 |
132 | | 130.7595 | <ts> | 131.0019 |
134 | | 131.2118 | it wasn't for me. Um, | 132.8205 |
136 | | 133.2262 | I didn't | 133.6085 |
138 | | 133.7577 | actually want to be there | 135.4923 |
140 | | 135.7488 | at | 135.9539 |
142 | | 136.1626 | either- either one of those times. | 137.8553 |
144 | | 138.3915 | Um, | 138.9557 |
146 | | 141.0680 | I felt like if I had a break- | 142.4331 |
148 | | 142.5916 | if I had taken the break, | 143.9019 |
150 | | 144.1583 | um, and had a gap year, | 145.6691 |
152 | | 146.2100 | I actually would have finished | 147.7243 |
154 | | 147.8689 | school. | 148.3072 |
156 | | 148.9087 | But | 149.0766 |
158 | | 149.4729 | I neve- | 149.8226 |
160 | | 150.0931 | I had been in school non-stop. | 151.6411 |
162 | | 151.9163 | I never, you know, missed anything for real, | 154.0239 |
164 | | 154.5496 | and I never got that break. | 155.5848 |
166 | | 155.8646 | So, | 156.1537 |
168 | | 157.2914 | I wanted it. | 157.7717 |
170 | | 157.9815 | <laugh> I demanded it! | 159.0633 |
171 | DCB_int_01 | 159.3151 | And you took it, and that's okay. | 160.6662 |
172 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 160.7362 | Yep yep yep. | 161.3237 |
173 | DCB_int_01 | 161.3470 | Um, | 161.6687 |
175 | | 162.4894 | what do you currently do? | 163.4081 |
176 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 163.5852 | <ts> | 163.6971 |
178 | | 163.7391 | Uh, I am the Youth Health Educator under Social Mobilization | 167.5428 |
180 | | 168.0604 | for /RD-WORK-5/. | 169.5945 |
182 | | 170.0935 | Um, | 170.6763 |
184 | | 171.0307 | <ts> | 171.1240 |
186 | | 171.3897 | also, uh, | 172.4436 |
188 | | 173.0766 | known as the /RD-WORK-6/. | 174.8904 |
190 | | 175.5246 | Uh, we work | 176.5364 |
192 | | 177.1333 | to provide HIV prevention education for youth thirteen to twenty-four. | 180.9557 |
194 | | 181.4546 | Um, | 181.7857 |
196 | | 181.9489 | I s- | 182.1960 |
198 | | 182.7416 | more specifically | 183.6648 |
200 | | 183.8875 | do- uh, I plan events, | 185.7200 |
202 | | 186.1257 | uh, geared around HIV testing. | 188.2287 |
204 | | 188.5737 | <ts> | 188.6297 |
206 | | 188.6390 | Uh, | 189.0400 |
208 | | 189.2172 | but | 189.4224 |
210 | | 190.4284 | I plan | 191.4356 |
212 | | 191.6361 | cultural | 192.4661 |
214 | | 192.5780 | and fun | 193.2681 |
216 | | 193.4826 | events, | 194.1214 |
218 | | 194.4292 | uh, where we offer HIV testing | 196.3270 |
220 | | 196.6616 | uh, in hopes of normalizing, | 198.4894 |
222 | | 198.6480 | uh, testing. | 199.2681 |
223 | DCB_int_01 | 199.8408 | Gotcha. | 200.4618 |
225 | | 201.3151 | Um, | 201.8141 |
227 | | 202.3818 | what about your parents? | 203.7107 |
229 | | 203.9112 | Where were they born? | 204.7692 |
230 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 205.1562 | Uh, as far as I know, | 207.6695 |
232 | | 207.9761 | my father was born in the area. | 209.8459 |
234 | | 210.5640 | Um, | 211.2308 |
236 | | 211.9489 | <ts> | 212.0375 |
238 | | 212.1867 | he currently resides in Maryland, | 214.3456 |
240 | | 214.4937 | um, | 215.0159 |
242 | | 215.8832 | near New Carrollton. | 216.8811 |
243 | DCB_int_01 | 217.1049 | Mm-hm. | 217.5589 |
244 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 217.3854 | <ts> | 217.4855 |
245 | | 217.8696 | Um, my mom, | 219.1519 |
247 | | 219.3291 | I believe was born in Shenandoah, | 221.4403 |
249 | | 221.7667 | Virginia, | 222.4847 |
251 | | 222.7272 | and then moved up here shortly after. | 225.2778 |
253 | | 226.3491 | Most of my family's from Shenandoah, Virginia. | 228.4241 |
254 | DCB_int_01 | 228.9883 | Gotcha. | 229.3474 |
256 | | 229.5805 | And what did you parents do? | 230.4851 |
257 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 231.0354 | Uh, my mom | 232.1591 |
259 | | 232.5776 | at- works as a patent clerk, | 234.0791 |
261 | | 234.5127 | uh, | 235.0769 |
263 | | 235.3800 | for the, | 236.2193 |
265 | | 237.0960 | uh, /RD-WORK-7/, | 238.6289 |
266 | DCB_int_01 | 238.6103 | [Mm-hm.] | 238.9553 |
267 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 238.8434 | [US] Gov. | 239.6361 |
268 | | 240.1863 | Um, my father | 241.5339 |
270 | | 241.9769 | is currently- um, | 243.8280 |
272 | | 245.2864 | he's- he's | 246.1770 |
274 | | 246.7552 | healing from a stroke, | 248.1168 |
276 | | 248.3639 | and so | 249.0027 |
278 | | 249.2965 | not really working right now. | 250.4436 |
279 | DCB_int_01 | 252.8112 | So let's talk about- we're gonna go | 254.4805 |
281 | | 255.1146 | from the | 255.9633 |
283 | | 256.8434 | beginning. | 257.5568 |
284 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 257.9252 | <ts> Okay. | 258.3262 |
285 | DCB_int_01 | 258.6713 | Um, | 259.5619 |
287 | | 262.7362 | your childhood home, | 263.8273 |
289 | | 264.5967 | Stanton Hill, | 265.3367 |
290 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 265.6038 | Stanton Hill. | 266.2800 |
291 | DCB_int_01 | 267.1100 | tell me about it. | 267.8327 |
292 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 268.4377 | Um, | 269.0766 |
294 | | 271.0083 | the apartment was cool. | 272.5178 |
296 | | 272.8955 | Um, (laughing) | 273.6509 |
298 | | 274.4377 | like, uh, | 275.3470 |
300 | | 275.5895 | who- who lived there? I had | 277.1888 |
302 | | 278.1862 | my mom, | 278.9869 |
304 | | 279.7709 | grandmother, | 280.5170 |
306 | | 280.7455 | great-grandmother, and my uncle. | 282.5174 |
308 | | 283.2774 | Um, | 283.9116 |
310 | | 287.8040 | believe it was a | 289.9862 |
312 | | 290.4152 | two-bedroom and a den. | 292.2477 |
314 | | 293.6303 | And | 294.4894 |
316 | | 295.3707 | me and my mom slept in the same room. | 297.2172 |
318 | | 299.8459 | I believe my grandmother | 301.4080 |
320 | | 301.7531 | and | 302.5504 |
322 | | 302.8255 | great-grandmother slept in the same room for a while | 305.4356 |
324 | | 306.3775 | until she passed. | 307.5712 |
326 | | 308.5970 | No, | 309.0493 |
328 | | 309.9108 | there were three bedrooms. | 311.3936 |
330 | | 312.6759 | I had to think that | 313.3754 |
332 | | 313.5339 | through. | 313.8510 |
334 | | 314.1681 | Yeah, there were three bedrooms | 315.6509 |
336 | | 315.9773 | and a den. | 316.4948 |
338 | | 316.9833 | My uncle slept in the den. | 318.0511 |
340 | | 319.1562 | Um, | 319.9023 |
342 | | 320.8861 | third floor | 321.7255 |
344 | | 324.7179 | corner. | 325.2914 |
346 | | 328.0041 | And it was- uh, | 328.8760 |
348 | | 329.1278 | like I enjoyed my- my | 330.8298 |
350 | | 331.5805 | early childhood. | 332.6017 |
352 | | 332.8115 | Like that was real cool. | 333.9166 |
354 | | 334.0694 | Um, | 334.6149 |
356 | | 335.0346 | I really | 335.7060 |
358 | | 335.9718 | enjoyed having s- all that family around me. | 338.6950 |
360 | | 339.2219 | Um, I was a only child. | 340.4809 |
362 | | 341.6967 | My | 342.6246 |
364 | | 344.1214 | uncle | 344.7789 |
366 | | 345.1892 | was kind of wild. | 346.1813 |
368 | | 346.7175 | Like- | 347.0346 |
370 | | 347.1465 | or- he still is kind of wild, | 348.6992 |
372 | | 348.8205 | but he is less wild now. | 350.1914 |
374 | | 351.7907 | <ts> | 351.9027 |
376 | | 352.0507 | Yeah. | 352.3958 |
378 | | 352.6056 | Stanton Hill, | 353.2771 |
380 | | 354.9277 | it- | 355.0956 |
382 | | 355.2774 | I imagine cause I- I don't have actual facts on this, | 358.4482 |
384 | | 358.8481 | but like, | 359.3750 |
386 | | 360.0045 | I know it was- it was jie, | 361.5153 |
388 | | 361.6411 | thugly. | 362.2287 |
390 | | 362.7602 | There were- there times when like, you know, | 364.5963 |
392 | | 364.9263 | you c- you had to play the game of, uh, | 366.6853 |
394 | | 366.7781 | cherry bomb, firecracker or gun. | 368.7929 |
396 | | 369.2685 | You never know which one b- | 370.2897 |
398 | | 370.7362 | was which. | 371.3190 |
400 | | 371.8972 | Um, not at that age. | 372.9930 |
402 | | 373.6038 | Um, | 374.1494 |
404 | | 374.8209 | but it was- it was alright. | 375.7954 |
406 | | 376.5916 | I was alright. | 377.0206 |
408 | | 378.1863 | Um, | 378.7226 |
410 | | 379.6924 | coming out | 380.1820 |
412 | | 380.3173 | of Stanton Hill Apartments, | 381.7628 |
414 | | 382.5730 | there was like the Bruce Place | 385.0256 |
416 | | 385.3334 | sort of neighborhood, | 386.5458 |
418 | | 387.3058 | and then, | 388.1171 |
420 | | 389.1465 | <ts> | 389.2444 |
422 | | 389.3237 | oh man. | 390.0791 |
424 | | 390.1956 | It was a project that they knocked down like about ten- | 393.0587 |
426 | | 393.5856 | ten years ago. | 394.4669 |
428 | | 395.1045 | Um, so I don't remember where that is, but it was right across the street from Turner Elementary. | 398.7043 |
430 | | 399.1426 | My mom was like, no, | 400.1638 |
432 | | 400.5310 | you are not going to Turner Elementary. | 402.0091 |
434 | | 402.4847 | It's too much. | 403.1935 |
436 | | 403.6458 | The bamas is crazy. | 404.6623 |
438 | | 405.0260 | I was like, | 405.3431 |
440 | | 405.5063 | you right. | 405.8747 |
442 | | 406.7921 | I'm not going to Turner | 407.6641 |
444 | | 408.0045 | cause those bamas are crazy. | 409.1189 |
446 | | 409.8556 | Um, | 410.7789 |
448 | | 411.6275 | <ts> | 411.7441 |
450 | | 412.2232 | yeah. | 412.5543 |
452 | | 413.0719 | Other things, | 413.8319 |
454 | | 415.1888 | there was a cut that you could take through the woods, | 417.5949 |
456 | | 418.0507 | and it would open up | 418.8994 |
458 | | 419.1418 | to | 419.7014 |
460 | | 419.9159 | a playground. | 420.6992 |
462 | | 421.7344 | And the playground had this | 423.7068 |
464 | | 423.8187 | ridiculously large, or at least, at the time it seemed ridiculously large, | 428.2193 |
466 | | 428.6577 | um, steel rocket. | 430.4342 |
468 | | 431.0859 | It looked kind of like a bomb pop. | 432.5407 |
470 | | 433.3334 | And I would hop into the- | 435.0960 |
472 | | 435.1892 | into the rocket and try to climb all the way to the top. | 437.0393 |
474 | | 437.4729 | Remember being a little kid | 438.5827 |
476 | | 438.7505 | and being scared to go all the way to the top. | 440.4851 |
478 | | 440.7136 | And then getting a little bit older, maybe around seven, | 442.8108 |
480 | | 443.3237 | um, | 443.6641 |
482 | | 444.1583 | and then | 444.4801 |
484 | | 444.8205 | climbing all the way to the top and just kind of hanging out there and that being my spot. | 448.3083 |
486 | | 449.6594 | Um, | 450.2656 |
488 | | 451.6178 | and then, | 452.6017 |
490 | | 453.0120 | a little bit later as a child, | 454.2792 |
492 | | 454.8900 | I came back | 455.5335 |
494 | | 455.6408 | and that joint was knocked down. I was like, oh no. | 457.4966 |
496 | | 458.2800 | Where did the bomb pop go? | 459.6882 |
498 | | 460.3631 | Um, | 460.9973 |
500 | | 462.4568 | but they had closed down that neighborhood back there | 464.5498 |
502 | | 464.8722 | by then. | 465.4550 |
504 | | 466.4191 | And so | 466.8574 |
506 | | 467.2864 | that was Stanton Terrace. | 468.8718 |
508 | | 469.6691 | They shut that down, | 470.5411 |
510 | | 471.2265 | and so there was no reason to even have all that stuff back there. | 473.9718 |
511 | DCB_int_01 | 475.1702 | What's there now? | 475.7717 |
512 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 476.2287 | <ts> | 476.3546 |
514 | | 476.4152 | Um, | 477.1752 |
516 | | 477.5518 | there's some houses. | 478.6254 |
518 | | 479.2677 | I hear it's mixed income, | 480.2423 |
520 | | 480.9977 | so. | 481.2681 |
522 | | 481.8883 | Um, and that's been there for about | 483.5716 |
524 | | 484.3538 | I th- I feel like it may have been seven years. It may actually be longer. | 488.0002 |
526 | | 488.4059 | Cause my concept of time is kind of skewed now. | 490.7528 |
528 | | 491.2398 | Um, | 491.6268 |
530 | | 491.8739 | I hit thirty, | 492.5174 |
532 | | 493.0396 | and was like, oh wait, | 493.9676 |
534 | | 495.1659 | what year is this? | 496.0099 |
536 | | 496.1533 | And when (laughing) did this happen? | 497.7480 |
538 | | 498.4894 | So, | 498.7552 |
540 | | 499.4500 | yeah. | 499.7297 |
541 | DCB_int_01 | 500.1587 | So | 500.4851 |
543 | | 500.6577 | you were the only child. | 501.7150 |
545 | | 501.8735 | Did you- | 502.5357 |
547 | | 502.7175 | I know you had your big bomb pop, | 504.1350 |
549 | | 504.6386 | [did you] have | 505.5199 |
550 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 504.6526 | [Mm-hm.] | 504.9557 |
551 | DCB_int_01 | 505.7484 | any other neighborhood kids that you played with or | 507.6450 |
553 | | 507.9528 | was it mostly grown-ups that you hung around? | 509.6501 |
554 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 509.8086 | Um, I didn't hang out with a lot of neighborhood kids, | 513.2825 |
556 | | 513.5436 | just cause them- | 514.1405 |
558 | | 514.2978 | they- | 514.4750 |
560 | | 514.7614 | like I said, they were jie, | 516.1090 |
562 | | 516.2116 | they were jie wild. | 517.0369 |
564 | | 517.5440 | Um, | 518.1222 |
566 | | 519.2180 | unfortunately, | 520.0900 |
568 | | 520.2672 | they were the kids that didn't have like, | 522.1743 |
570 | | 522.5147 | a lot of folks | 523.2747 |
572 | | 523.4554 | looking out for them. | 524.2901 |
574 | | 524.7704 | So | 525.3579 |
576 | | 526.6682 | they were just doing stuff that I didn't really care for. | 528.8924 |
578 | | 529.1477 | So, | 529.4939 |
580 | | 530.6351 | yeah. | 530.9709 |
582 | | 531.5584 | And | 532.3045 |
584 | | 533.5868 | hm, | 533.8805 |
586 | | 534.9157 | I hung out a lot with my cousins. | 536.4766 |
588 | | 536.6258 | Like a lot- | 537.1201 |
590 | | 537.5397 | a lot of my cousins and the kids from school. So I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, | 541.3353 |
592 | | 541.7026 | and /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 542.8123 |
594 | | 543.0035 | was | 543.7542 |
596 | | 544.0573 | in close proximity to two other, | 546.2162 |
598 | | 546.7012 | uh, major neighborhoods. | 548.5139 |
600 | | 548.9382 | Um, | 549.5118 |
602 | | 550.0060 | Woodland Terrace and | 551.7453 |
604 | | 552.4650 | <ts> | 552.5418 |
606 | | 552.6312 | what was it? It's Woodland, | 553.9124 |
608 | | 554.4766 | it's right there. | 555.2460 |
610 | | 555.9920 | No, it's Woodland Terrace is right here, | 558.8504 |
612 | | 559.3715 | and | 560.3321 |
614 | | 560.7051 | <ts> | 560.8543 |
616 | | 561.4978 | what it- Langston Lane. | 562.4397 |
618 | | 563.0132 | That's what it was. | 563.8012 |
620 | | 564.1510 | Uh, Langston Lane and Woodland. | 565.5032 |
622 | | 565.9404 | And so, | 566.4346 |
624 | | 566.5652 | all of my | 567.3905 |
626 | | 568.2625 | classmates | 569.0692 |
628 | | 569.1604 | f- in elementary school, were from those two communities. | 571.9917 |
630 | | 572.3694 | And for a while, | 573.0408 |
632 | | 573.3392 | there was a time in the nineties that was ridiculous. | 575.4282 |
634 | | 575.6940 | Like, | 575.9411 |
636 | | 576.6499 | Woodland Terrace is right here. | 578.0430 |
638 | | 578.6258 | Langston Lane is right here. | 579.8428 |
640 | | 580.3977 | But they got beef. | 581.1857 |
642 | | 581.8525 | So, | 582.3701 |
644 | | 582.5706 | they ended up | 583.2094 |
646 | | 583.3435 | shooting | 584.0383 |
648 | | 584.1269 | at the ice cream truck every day. | 585.8009 |
650 | | 586.3697 | It was just real nonsense. And my church was right here, | 588.5986 |
652 | | 589.0964 | and my school was there. | 589.9590 |
654 | | 590.3321 | So it was just all | 591.3066 |
656 | | 591.3952 | kind of ridiculous. | 592.1972 |
658 | | 592.5796 | But | 592.7521 |
660 | | 592.8547 | those were my friends. They l- | 593.9505 |
662 | | 594.0391 | they lived in these two neighborhoods. | 595.6419 |
664 | | 595.8611 | And, | 596.4766 |
666 | | 597.2833 | <ts> | 597.3486 |
668 | | 597.3812 | um, | 597.8941 |
670 | | 598.0433 | you know, | 598.3744 |
672 | | 599.6753 | We ended up going our separate ways toward junior high school and high school because | 603.7636 |
674 | | 604.2811 | they were into stuff that | 605.3210 |
676 | | 605.6241 | I was not getting into. | 606.7198 |
678 | | 607.2421 | Um, a whole lot of thug and gang and this that and the third. | 611.0319 |
680 | | 611.7406 | Um, | 612.0903 |
682 | | 612.3421 | now I know they are just mimicking what they were seeing, | 614.4953 |
684 | | 614.7797 | like seeing in the household. | 615.9454 |
686 | | 616.3837 | Um, | 616.8640 |
688 | | 617.7220 | it was one boy who, | 619.0276 |
690 | | 620.1642 | he would like, | 621.1667 |
692 | | 622.4723 | put white-out | 623.1391 |
694 | | 623.2883 | on the desk, | 623.9505 |
696 | | 624.3142 | and then scrape the white-out, | 625.5483 |
698 | | 625.6886 | and then snort the white-out. | 626.8077 |
700 | | 627.3439 | And it's like, | 627.8941 |
702 | | 628.4816 | you know, | 628.8687 |
704 | | 629.0132 | that's learned behavior. | 630.1696 |
706 | | 630.4494 | That's not something that you just wake up one day and be like, ooh, this is gonna be funny. | 633.9454 |
708 | | 634.3744 | Nah, like, | 635.3210 |
710 | | 635.9411 | yeah. | 636.2722 |
712 | | 636.6312 | So | 637.1442 |
714 | | 638.1455 | that's kind of the stuff that | 639.3765 |
716 | | 640.5329 | we were dealing with at that time frame. | 642.8644 |
718 | | 643.4881 | Um, | 644.0150 |
720 | | 645.7775 | I hung out a lot at the church. | 647.1205 |
721 | DCB_int_01 | 647.8665 | [Which] church? | 648.5193 |
722 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 648.0530 | [I-] | 648.1929 |
723 | | 648.6546 | Uh, /RD-CHURCH-7/. | 650.0942 |
725 | | 650.2248 | Um, still there, | 651.4278 |
727 | | 651.6050 | it's on, uh, | 652.4210 |
729 | | 652.5889 | Ainger Place. | 653.3163 |
731 | | 654.7385 | I never knew if they pronounced it Ainger or anger. | 657.5724 |
732 | DCB_int_01 | 658.1413 | [<laugh>] | 658.9573 |
733 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 658.5190 | [because] | 659.4142 |
734 | | 660.2349 | in the nineties, we were saying | 661.5685 |
736 | | 662.7470 | Ainger Place, | 663.7496 |
738 | | 664.2998 | but now I hear people, and the bus, | 666.4401 |
740 | | 666.6919 | saying anger Place. | 668.0056 |
742 | | 668.4440 | But it's not spelled anger, as in I'm angry, | 671.2417 |
744 | | 671.7593 | it's spelled differently. | 672.9856 |
746 | | 673.3948 | Um, | 674.0010 |
748 | | 674.5932 | <ts> | 674.6911 |
750 | | 674.7610 | anyway. | 675.2087 |
752 | | 676.6448 | I digress. | 677.4096 |
754 | | 677.6147 | <laugh> | 678.1137 |
755 | DCB_int_01 | 678.2023 | What- | 678.4214 |
757 | | 678.5939 | how was church? | 679.5685 |
758 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 679.8051 | <ts> | 679.9637 |
760 | | 680.1875 | Church was interesting | 681.5351 |
762 | | 681.7216 | because that's where like, | 683.3723 |
764 | | 683.7873 | I would have like, little crushes on folks, | 685.7083 |
766 | | 685.9077 | and, | 686.6072 |
768 | | 687.3905 | you know, | 687.8195 |
770 | | 688.3744 | to varying levels of rejection | 689.9831 |
772 | | 690.2815 | I was met. | 690.8224 |
774 | | 691.5452 | Um, or introduced. | 693.0175 |
776 | | 693.6190 | Um, | 694.5609 |
778 | | 695.1904 | but, uh, yeah. <laugh> | 697.0089 |
780 | | 697.6093 | <laugh> It's funny like- no, | 699.0128 |
782 | | 699.2740 | like, | 699.8335 |
784 | | 700.5283 | th- this all shows up in the poetry, so | 702.8830 |
786 | | 703.0462 | you know, I'm okay now. | 704.3973 |
787 | DCB_int_01 | 704.6025 | [<laugh>] | 706.8733 |
788 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 705.0688 | [Um, <laugh>] | 706.2718 |
789 | | 708.0577 | where was I? Um, | 709.1197 |
791 | | 709.4414 | so yeah like, uh, church was very interesting cause I'd been in church | 712.7288 |
793 | | 713.2790 | since like- | 714.0204 |
795 | | 714.5520 | they said since I was three, | 715.8283 |
797 | | 716.1828 | but | 716.4859 |
799 | | 716.6771 | I | 716.9615 |
801 | | 717.1481 | kind of remember since I was six. | 718.9619 |
803 | | 720.0857 | <ts> | 720.1650 |
805 | | 720.2349 | And | 721.2281 |
807 | | 722.0476 | a lot of folks thought I would be a preacher | 723.6330 |
809 | | 723.8801 | or like a pastor or something like that. | 725.8432 |
811 | | 726.2909 | Um, and I guess in some ways I am, | 728.3414 |
813 | | 728.6958 | um, | 728.9942 |
815 | | 729.2833 | in a different type of church. | 730.5889 |
816 | DCB_int_01 | 730.5749 | [Mm-hm.] | 730.9096 |
817 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 730.8314 | [Uh], the church of the open mics | 732.4541 |
818 | | 732.6499 | and | 733.2514 |
820 | | 733.3820 | all of that. | 733.9683 |
822 | | 734.6771 | Um, | 735.5397 |
824 | | 737.0972 | yeah. | 737.4609 |
826 | | 737.8805 | That's interesting. | 738.9483 |
828 | | 739.2269 | Uh, I was in church all the time though. So, | 741.0641 |
830 | | 741.4978 | Monday | 742.4816 |
832 | | 743.0972 | my mother had- no, | 744.2442 |
834 | | 744.4168 | Monday was karate | 745.4099 |
836 | | 746.1036 | at first. | 746.7890 |
838 | | 747.2273 | And then I think it changed to Tuesday or Thursday, I don't remember what day. | 749.9924 |
840 | | 750.6860 | S- | 750.8119 |
842 | | 750.9751 | we're talking twenty-eight years ago. | 752.1828 |
844 | | 753.1900 | I can't do that. | 753.8102 |
846 | | 754.2765 | Um, | 754.6309 |
848 | | 754.7241 | anyway. | 755.0598 |
850 | | 755.6427 | One day | 756.3375 |
852 | | 756.5893 | <ts> | 756.6359 |
854 | | 756.7012 | was bible study. | 757.9310 |
856 | | 758.1642 | Tuesday was youth bible study. | 760.0060 |
858 | | 760.3651 | Um, I remember Wednesday was youth choir. | 762.9810 |
860 | | 763.2596 | Uh, Thursday, I don't remember. I think that was my mom's bible st- | 767.4515 |
862 | | 767.5588 | uh, | 767.9551 |
864 | | 768.2023 | choir rehearsal. | 768.9670 |
866 | | 769.5347 | And then Friday was family fun nights | 771.9967 |
868 | | 772.4304 | where, uh, | 773.3303 |
870 | | 773.9924 | sometimes we would have some video games on a old black and white TV. | 777.8848 |
872 | | 778.3138 | We're playing- | 778.8966 |
874 | | 779.3769 | we're playing Mario One | 780.7571 |
875 | DCB_int_01 | 780.8119 | <laugh> | 781.5860 |
876 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 781.6419 | on this jont. | 782.2341 |
878 | | 782.3880 | And I'm like, son. | 783.5584 |
880 | | 784.0014 | I'm like, yo. | 784.5889 |
882 | | 784.9013 | Like, | 785.2324 |
884 | | 785.6147 | it was wild | 786.2815 |
886 | | 786.5287 | cause Mario had been out for like two years before | 789.2367 |
888 | | 789.7729 | I | 790.2718 |
890 | | 790.3604 | really ever played it right? | 791.6427 |
892 | | 791.8292 | This was like- that was like eighty-five. | 793.3762 |
894 | | 793.4881 | I- I v- vividly remember | 794.9336 |
896 | | 795.1061 | the first time I played Mario. | 796.1786 |
898 | | 796.7568 | Um, | 797.5168 |
900 | | 798.3048 | but then | 799.0416 |
902 | | 799.3762 | we're talking like, | 800.2481 |
904 | | 800.7284 | seven, eight years later, | 802.2765 |
906 | | 802.8966 | and I got a color TV in my room. | 804.6592 |
908 | | 805.2596 | Why we playing Mario, the first [Mario, on this-] | 808.4910 |
909 | DCB_int_01 | 807.7449 | [<laugh>] | 808.4024 |
910 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 809.0785 | TV had to have been about | 811.2934 |
912 | | 812.2621 | thirteen inches maybe, | 813.7682 |
914 | | 814.1972 | black and white jont. | 815.2370 |
916 | | 815.7129 | We all huddled around it, tryna play Mario. | 817.9977 |
918 | | 818.5246 | I'm like, son, this is- | 819.5831 |
920 | | 820.1520 | we got to do better. <laugh> [Like we- we can do better.] | 822.9206 |
921 | DCB_int_01 | 821.3940 | [<laugh>] | 823.3292 |
922 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 823.3729 | We can do | 824.0630 |
924 | | 824.3754 | better. | 824.6867 |
926 | | 825.1821 | Um, | 825.7510 |
928 | | 826.6789 | but yeah. | 827.0426 |
930 | | 827.4203 | That was that. And then Sunday, we were back in church. | 829.7226 |
932 | | 829.8811 | Um, Saturday was kind of my only day that I wasn't in- | 832.3618 |
934 | | 832.5576 | in the church, some way, shape, or form. | 834.1197 |
935 | DCB_int_01 | 835.5967 | So let's move a little bit from elementary school. That was great. | 838.3012 |
936 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 838.4411 | [Yeah.] | 838.8048 |
937 | DCB_int_01 | 838.4411 | [Uh], | 838.8048 |
938 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 838.9400 | [<laugh>] | 839.6627 |
939 | DCB_int_01 | 839.3830 | [That was] great. | 840.0078 |
940 | | 840.7527 | Um, | 841.1957 |
941 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 841.1590 | Oh yeah. Let's [get] to this awkward phase. | 844.8840 |
942 | DCB_int_01 | 842.7671 | [so we-] | 843.0562 |
943 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 845.0228 | [<laugh>] | 845.5497 |
944 | DCB_int_01 | 845.0566 | [<laugh>] | 846.4263 |
945 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 846.0066 | [I already] know where we're going, okay. | 847.4661 |
946 | | 847.5687 | Continue. | 847.9651 |
947 | DCB_int_01 | 848.2215 | N- well go- | 848.8137 |
949 | | 849.0748 | go where you want us to go. | 850.2872 |
950 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 849.3453 | [<ts>] | 849.4045 |
952 | | 850.2452 | Oh, no no no. I- | 851.1172 |
953 | | 851.4716 | I- I like being asked the question. | 853.1257 |
955 | | 853.3682 | <laugh> [It's- yeah.] | 854.6505 |
956 | DCB_int_01 | 853.7596 | [So let's talk about | 854.6738 |
957 | | 855.1075 | middle school and high school. | 856.5017 |
958 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 856.6742 | [<laugh>] | 857.1918 |
959 | DCB_int_01 | 856.8374 | [Um], | 857.3550 |
960 | | 857.7129 | because we had | 858.3564 |
962 | | 858.4543 | a few different high schools. | 859.7863 |
963 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 859.7646 | Mm-hm. | 860.0630 |
964 | DCB_int_01 | 860.4780 | Um, so let's talk about /RD-SCHOOL-1/ first. | 862.5483 |
965 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 863.0099 | Okay. | 863.3457 |
967 | | 863.9414 | [/RD-SCHOOL-1/-] | 864.7061 |
968 | DCB_int_01 | 864.3051 | [Where is] it? | 865.0838 |
969 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 865.6900 | Well, | 866.1003 |
971 | | 866.2308 | it was- <laugh> [um-] | 868.2981 |
972 | DCB_int_01 | 867.7743 | [Oh] | 867.9981 |
973 | | 868.3012 | Right. | 868.5063 |
974 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 868.9027 | Yeah, it was | 870.0218 |
976 | | 870.2118 | near Eastern Market, | 871.1211 |
978 | | 871.2376 | so | 871.8392 |
980 | | 872.2169 | across the bridge. Um, | 874.0820 |
982 | | 875.2897 | I wanna say it was eight o one | 877.0278 |
984 | | 877.2097 | Eighth Street? | 877.8765 |
986 | | 878.1096 | Nope. | 878.3847 |
988 | | 878.5386 | /RD-ADDRESS-3/ | 879.4012 |
990 | | 880.1706 | /RD-ADDRESS-7/, | 881.4296 |
992 | | 881.9041 | Southeast. | 883.0092 |
994 | | 883.5920 | Um, | 884.0863 |
996 | | 884.4080 | that | 884.6692 |
998 | | 885.0282 | would have been- | 885.5411 |
1000 | | 885.6763 | nope. | 885.8722 |
1002 | | 888.3657 | /Inaudible./ | 888.8973 |
1004 | | 889.7879 | /RD-ADDRESS-3/. | 890.5806 |
1006 | | 891.4385 | That would have been it. | 892.1453 |
1008 | | 892.6789 | Um, | 893.4109 |
1010 | | 894.8273 | first school where | 896.4687 |
1012 | | 897.2520 | we | 898.0494 |
1014 | | 898.8934 | as a class moved, | 900.5522 |
1016 | | 900.9299 | and it wasn't- | 901.4521 |
1018 | | 901.6153 | and the teachers didn't move. | 902.9256 |
1020 | | 903.1308 | So in elementary school, the way it worked for us, | 905.2477 |
1022 | | 905.6942 | um, | 906.1139 |
1024 | | 906.3843 | we would stay | 907.1724 |
1026 | | 907.2983 | in one classroom, | 908.2821 |
1028 | | 908.6552 | and then different types of teachers would come to us. So, | 911.0601 |
1030 | | 911.1627 | oh, it's music class, | 912.5009 |
1032 | | 912.8553 | my music teacher comes to my class, | 914.6785 |
1034 | | 914.7857 | and we talk about music and stuff. | 916.2499 |
1036 | | 916.7348 | Oh, it's, you know, | 918.2818 |
1038 | | 918.4263 | PE. | 918.9998 |
1040 | | 919.3915 | Our musi- our PE teacher comes to our class, | 921.8162 |
1042 | | 921.9328 | covers the health stuff, and then we all go outside. | 923.9705 |
1044 | | 924.3657 | Oh it's- you know, | 925.0931 |
1046 | | 925.6573 | so | 926.2775 |
1048 | | 926.5339 | for | 927.1821 |
1050 | | 927.3826 | junior high school, | 928.3618 |
1052 | | 929.0472 | we- | 929.9798 |
1054 | | 930.1046 | it was the opposite, it was inverted. | 931.7382 |
1056 | | 932.0443 | We would have, um, | 933.1634 |
1058 | | 934.1473 | all of my class would move together | 936.1745 |
1060 | | 936.3983 | to the next class and then to the next class. | 938.4267 |
1062 | | 938.7624 | And that was the first experience with that. And that was kind of- | 940.9264 |
1064 | | 941.2664 | kind of wild. | 941.9099 |
1066 | | 942.4216 | Um, | 942.9765 |
1068 | | 944.2355 | I was in | 945.1448 |
1070 | | 945.5318 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s, | 946.9540 |
1072 | | 947.2104 | uh, class, one o six. | 948.9812 |
1074 | | 949.7459 | And Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s class was one of the gifted and talented classes. | 953.3772 |
1076 | | 953.8155 | And we didn't know- | 955.0978 |
1078 | | 955.4941 | so they- they had | 956.7251 |
1080 | | 956.9396 | GT, | 957.5551 |
1082 | | 957.8442 | um, in elementary school, | 959.3550 |
1084 | | 959.9833 | <ts> | 960.0859 |
1086 | | 960.1745 | and, | 960.7154 |
1088 | | 961.5174 | you know, | 962.0583 |
1090 | | 963.1308 | like, there- | 963.5878 |
1092 | | 964.0074 | I was in GT | 965.2990 |
1094 | | 965.4249 | for like a few sessions, | 967.0605 |
1096 | | 967.2190 | and then I was just tired of being around that group. | 969.9188 |
1098 | | 970.3711 | And so I left. | 971.6616 |
1100 | | 972.1186 | Um, but I did- | 973.0884 |
1102 | | 973.2983 | I | 973.4988 |
1104 | | 973.7179 | got | 973.9371 |
1106 | | 974.4174 | put in a program called Project Two Thousand, | 976.3525 |
1108 | | 976.8700 | um, which was all about | 978.0451 |
1110 | | 978.3983 | <ts> | 978.4729 |
1112 | | 978.5196 | uh, helping folks that would graduate in the class of two thousand and beyond, | 981.8489 |
1114 | | 982.3665 | um, | 983.0053 |
1116 | | 983.1766 | to remain in high school- | 984.5709 |
1118 | | 984.7620 | remain in school | 985.7086 |
1120 | | 985.9884 | so that they can graduate and go to college. | 987.5691 |
1122 | | 988.1380 | Um, | 988.8048 |
1124 | | 990.0300 | so I did that in elementary school. | 991.6900 |
1126 | | 992.1749 | Move forward to junior high school, | 994.0540 |
1128 | | 994.5297 | I'm in the gifted and talented middle- like in the g- | 997.4521 |
1130 | | 997.6760 | gifted and c- | 998.2961 |
1132 | | 998.4220 | talented | 999.1961 |
1134 | | 999.7276 | homeroom, | 1000.4970 |
1136 | | 1001.1778 | and there were two of us. It was one o five and one o six. | 1003.8298 |
1138 | | 1004.2682 | Um, and then the rest were | 1005.7090 |
1140 | | 1006.3525 | I guess considered the standard? | 1007.8446 |
1142 | | 1008.1139 | And I never understood that. | 1009.4988 |
1144 | | 1009.8112 | Um, | 1010.1889 |
1146 | | 1010.6971 | now | 1011.1121 |
1148 | | 1011.2800 | with | 1011.4292 |
1150 | | 1011.6390 | different perspective, | 1012.6183 |
1152 | | 1013.0566 | um, | 1013.4249 |
1154 | | 1013.6674 | it's interesting. | 1014.5242 |
1156 | | 1014.7760 | I'll- | 1015.0651 |
1158 | | 1015.1677 | I'll leave it at that | 1015.9290 |
1160 | | 1016.0350 | cause I imagine we'll talk about that later. | 1017.5738 |
1162 | | 1018.2312 | Um, | 1018.8934 |
1164 | | 1021.5790 | <ts> | 1021.6891 |
1166 | | 1022.8650 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s class | 1024.0261 |
1168 | | 1024.2918 | was where | 1025.0799 |
1170 | | 1026.7154 | I learned I | 1027.7832 |
1172 | | 1028.7671 | didn't | 1029.4339 |
1174 | | 1029.9188 | always | 1031.1778 |
1176 | | 1031.6709 | fit in | 1032.4263 |
1178 | | 1033.2330 | with the rest of my class. | 1034.9070 |
1180 | | 1035.3966 | In | 1035.6857 |
1182 | | 1035.7976 | elementary school, I didn't fit in with the rest of my class always, | 1039.1211 |
1184 | | 1039.3589 | but I didn't know. | 1040.2169 |
1186 | | 1041.3919 | Like I just kind of was like, oh, | 1042.7068 |
1188 | | 1043.2990 | do do do do do. | 1044.0451 |
1190 | | 1044.5429 | Where | 1045.0232 |
1192 | | 1045.1491 | in junior high school, I started realizing, | 1046.9536 |
1194 | | 1047.0842 | oh shit, | 1047.6390 |
1196 | | 1048.0867 | I don't fit in, | 1048.8347 |
1198 | | 1049.1871 | this is (laughing)- | 1049.7513 |
1200 | | 1050.2118 | this is | 1050.6594 |
1202 | | 1051.1630 | not me. | 1051.6620 |
1204 | | 1052.2169 | Um, | 1053.0096 |
1206 | | 1054.0214 | and | 1054.9120 |
1208 | | 1055.5835 | one of my best friends liked- | 1056.9952 |
1210 | | 1057.7739 | funny enough, | 1058.3707 |
1212 | | 1058.5852 | the second day of school, I end up fighting this dude. | 1061.0985 |
1214 | | 1061.6348 | Um, | 1062.1803 |
1216 | | 1062.9719 | went by the name, | 1063.6107 |
1218 | | 1063.7459 | or, goes by the name /RD-NAME-1/. | 1065.0515 |
1220 | | 1065.7090 | Um, | 1066.4038 |
1222 | | 1066.7628 | and I ended up fighting him, | 1067.6814 |
1224 | | 1068.1698 | and then we became like, best friends, | 1070.1516 |
1226 | | 1070.4500 | and played video games and were like, the dorky like, | 1072.8561 |
1228 | | 1073.1731 | pair. | 1073.4716 |
1230 | | 1074.2165 | Um, | 1075.0371 |
1232 | | 1077.6577 | things I remember about junior high school. | 1079.2711 |
1234 | | 1079.7327 | Um, | 1080.1104 |
1236 | | 1080.2771 | a lot of judgement | 1081.5314 |
1238 | | 1082.5479 | based on outfits | 1083.7416 |
1240 | | 1084.3991 | <ts> | 1084.4830 |
1242 | | 1084.5063 | and like, | 1085.1265 |
1244 | | 1085.2338 | clothing. | 1085.8353 |
1246 | | 1086.4263 | Um, | 1086.7061 |
1248 | | 1086.8227 | a lot of talk about | 1087.7273 |
1250 | | 1088.0257 | masturbation. | 1088.9023 |
1252 | | 1089.2660 | More particularly, the phrasing | 1091.2104 |
1254 | | 1091.3690 | beat your dick. | 1092.2769 |
1256 | | 1092.9439 | Um, | 1093.4148 |
1258 | | 1093.5174 | I remember in junior high school, | 1095.1588 |
1260 | | 1095.4152 | not knowing | 1096.1799 |
1262 | | 1096.3198 | what | 1096.5996 |
1264 | | 1096.7488 | the hell I was supposed to do | 1098.5489 |
1266 | | 1098.9066 | when trying to masturbate (laughing). | 1100.4500 |
1268 | | 1101.1308 | And so | 1102.0261 |
1270 | | 1102.6043 | th- I remember like, | 1103.6394 |
1272 | | 1104.5382 | t- oh God (laughing). | 1105.4288 |
1274 | | 1105.7552 | Here we go! It's share time! [Because] you're getting the stories. | 1109.0472 |
1275 | DCB_int_01 | 1107.5365 | [<laugh>] | 1107.7136 |
1276 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1109.4704 | Um, | 1109.9927 |
1278 | | 1110.1139 | I remember | 1110.7480 |
1280 | | 1110.9019 | being in junior high school | 1112.0443 |
1282 | | 1112.5293 | and | 1113.1028 |
1284 | | 1113.3593 | youngins were like, | 1114.0027 |
1286 | | 1114.1053 | oh well you got to have sex before | 1115.9938 |
1288 | | 1116.4683 | uh, | 1116.9439 |
1290 | | 1117.0418 | you can nut in 'em. | 1117.7785 |
1292 | | 1118.2075 | Like- like, that was a phrase that like- folks were like, yo, | 1121.1778 |
1294 | | 1121.4622 | you have to have sex before you can like, | 1123.3635 |
1296 | | 1123.4382 | ejaculate | 1124.3055 |
1298 | | 1124.4314 | into a young lady | 1125.5318 |
1300 | | 1125.8395 | because then | 1126.4970 |
1302 | | 1126.6742 | they can get pregnant. | 1127.4518 |
1304 | | 1127.8248 | It was like, | 1128.4450 |
1306 | | 1128.8973 | whoa. Like, | 1129.9837 |
1308 | | 1130.5666 | that's nuts. | 1131.2147 |
1310 | | 1131.7743 | Literally. | 1132.2592 |
1311 | DCB_int_01 | 1132.7963 | [<laugh>] | 1134.1742 |
1312 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1132.7986 | [And- uh,] | 1133.7778 |
1314 | | 1133.9177 | [and for] me, I was like, | 1134.9762 |
1315 | | 1135.1021 | I'm not even thinking about u- | 1136.4264 |
1317 | | 1137.3963 | Wasn't thinking about sex. | 1138.4407 |
1319 | | 1138.7007 | Had crushes. | 1139.6753 |
1321 | | 1140.2395 | Was like, oh she's pretty, | 1141.1954 |
1323 | | 1141.8901 | but like not interested in like, putting anything in anyone else. | 1145.2369 |
1325 | | 1145.7918 | Um, | 1146.2954 |
1327 | | 1147.5171 | so that was- | 1148.1279 |
1329 | | 1148.2818 | that was | 1148.6642 |
1331 | | 1149.0605 | k- kind of shock | 1150.1330 |
1333 | | 1150.2438 | there. | 1150.7473 |
1335 | | 1151.3022 | Um, | 1152.3933 |
1337 | | 1152.6405 | <ts> | 1152.7664 |
1339 | | 1152.9669 | <ts> | 1153.1161 |
1341 | | 1153.3446 | <ts> | 1153.4889 |
1343 | | 1153.8342 | yeah. | 1154.1000 |
1345 | | 1154.4870 | Masturbation was a whole | 1156.0211 |
1347 | | 1156.7986 | thing. | 1157.1484 |
1349 | | 1157.5400 | Like not knowing | 1159.0042 |
1351 | | 1159.2327 | how to beat my dick. | 1160.7434 |
1353 | | 1161.1351 | And thinking like, (laughing) | 1162.2076 |
1355 | | 1162.6867 | do you like, | 1163.3116 |
1357 | | 1163.5867 | smack it? Like, what the f- | 1164.8410 |
1359 | | 1165.1860 | like, | 1165.3959 |
1361 | | 1165.7503 | but not feeling comfortable asking a health teacher or anybody else. | 1170.0669 |
1363 | | 1170.2255 | And | 1170.7710 |
1365 | | 1171.5497 | like you know, masturbation is one of those things we don't really talk about. | 1174.5060 |
1367 | | 1175.1064 | And | 1175.9784 |
1369 | | 1176.5845 | yeah like- | 1177.2140 |
1371 | | 1177.8901 | like, | 1178.1886 |
1373 | | 1178.3191 | I don't- | 1178.7574 |
1375 | | 1179.6667 | I wouldn't feel comfortable | 1181.0178 |
1377 | | 1181.1717 | with a junior high school student | 1182.6871 |
1379 | | 1182.8736 | asking me. | 1183.6383 |
1381 | | 1184.9346 | [You know (laughing), like,] | 1186.0817 |
1382 | DCB_int_01 | 1185.3015 | [<laugh>] | 1186.2589 |
1383 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1186.4816 | How do I beat my dick? | 1187.2603 |
1385 | | 1188.0483 | And | 1188.3001 |
1387 | | 1188.4680 | I teach health | 1189.4985 |
1389 | | 1189.6104 | education. <laugh> | 1190.6782 |
1391 | | 1190.9579 | Like [I talk about sexual] health | 1192.7334 |
1393 | | 1192.9012 | every day. | 1193.4934 |
1395 | | 1194.1276 | Um, | 1194.6731 |
1397 | | 1195.7456 | and so | 1196.4823 |
1399 | | 1196.6549 | yeah. I guess | 1197.6061 |
1400 | DCB_int_01 | 1198.2491 | <laugh> | 1198.4660 |
1401 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1198.4676 | it would depend on the forum | 1200.0903 |
1403 | | 1200.4353 | [cause I] could- I could be like, look this- | 1202.2632 |
1404 | DCB_int_01 | 1200.5472 | [Mm-hm.] | 1200.9109 |
1405 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1202.7901 | <laugh> Just saying it out loud is just weird. | 1205.2929 |
1407 | | 1205.4281 | Anyway. | 1205.8385 |
1409 | | 1206.1042 | Anyway. | 1206.6265 |
1411 | | 1208.3564 | Yeah. | 1208.6129 |
1413 | | 1208.7528 | That was a whole confusing situation there | 1210.7473 |
1415 | | 1211.0877 | um, as a- as a junior high student. | 1212.7291 |
1417 | | 1213.2746 | Um, | 1214.0860 |
1419 | | 1215.8346 | I saw | 1216.6914 |
1421 | | 1217.0598 | the separation between the gifted and talented | 1219.7129 |
1423 | | 1220.2538 | and | 1221.0325 |
1425 | | 1221.5128 | the- | 1221.8113 |
1427 | | 1222.6075 | what folks would consider the standard class, | 1224.7337 |
1429 | | 1225.1021 | when | 1225.7782 |
1431 | | 1227.1025 | a whole group of my peers went to wood shop | 1230.4773 |
1433 | | 1231.0741 | and a- | 1231.7036 |
1435 | | 1232.0673 | and my class ended up getting typing and technology courses. | 1235.4981 |
1437 | | 1236.2115 | Um, | 1236.9063 |
1439 | | 1237.7782 | yeah. | 1238.2772 |
1441 | | 1239.1305 | That's when I noticed, I was like, | 1240.3428 |
1443 | | 1240.6727 | damn, I wanna take wood shop. | 1241.8151 |
1445 | | 1241.9644 | Like, | 1242.1602 |
1447 | | 1242.2535 | that sounds like a fun course. | 1243.4192 |
1449 | | 1243.7456 | oh but no, that's not your track, /RD-NAME-2/. | 1245.2051 |
1451 | | 1246.1423 | What? | 1246.3148 |
1453 | | 1246.5468 | <laugh> | 1246.7334 |
1455 | | 1247.0971 | So, I'm not supposed to like, | 1248.9715 |
1457 | | 1249.7503 | fuck with saws and all this stuff. | 1251.7366 |
1459 | | 1252.4396 | Why? | 1252.8499 |
1461 | | 1253.0178 | Why am I not allowed to do that? | 1254.5659 |
1463 | | 1254.9203 | And then, | 1255.3166 |
1465 | | 1255.5078 | why can't | 1256.3191 |
1467 | | 1256.4730 | /RD-NAME-2/ who is in, | 1257.9511 |
1469 | | 1258.6121 | uh, | 1259.2603 |
1471 | | 1259.8058 | class A- | 1261.0042 |
1473 | | 1261.3026 | what was it, B thirty s- | 1262.3658 |
1475 | | 1262.6875 | B thirty-four, | 1263.4615 |
1477 | | 1263.8346 | why couldn't they, um, | 1265.5266 |
1479 | | 1265.8758 | take | 1266.1928 |
1481 | | 1266.5286 | technology class? Why can't they take | 1267.9601 |
1483 | | 1268.1279 | uh, typing? | 1268.7528 |
1485 | | 1269.2843 | And I started thinking about that like, why are they keeping us separate? | 1271.8017 |
1487 | | 1271.9737 | What [is going] on there? | 1272.9715 |
1488 | DCB_int_01 | 1272.1610 | [Mm.] | 1272.4679 |
1489 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1273.4425 | Um, | 1274.1326 |
1491 | | 1275.2051 | that's when I started to question the school system and | 1277.8357 |
1493 | | 1278.0390 | this that and the third. | 1278.7757 |
1495 | | 1279.3539 | Um, | 1279.8388 |
1497 | | 1280.3471 | joined the junior high school choir, | 1281.9045 |
1499 | | 1282.5049 | <ts> | 1282.6168 |
1501 | | 1282.6774 | and that was fun. | 1283.5494 |
1503 | | 1284.1555 | Um, | 1284.6125 |
1505 | | 1285.0228 | sang, | 1285.6430 |
1507 | | 1286.3238 | and I was in | 1287.2377 |
1509 | | 1287.3123 | the church choir. | 1288.1237 |
1511 | | 1288.5748 | And so that followed me into junior high school. | 1290.4866 |
1513 | | 1291.0462 | Um, | 1291.6197 |
1515 | | 1292.4310 | and that was one of those moments where I felt | 1294.1179 |
1517 | | 1294.2717 | connected | 1294.8453 |
1519 | | 1295.0131 | to other folks | 1295.7918 |
1521 | | 1296.1928 | cause | 1296.8317 |
1523 | | 1297.3539 | music, no matter | 1298.4590 |
1525 | | 1298.6875 | what kind of music, | 1299.5455 |
1527 | | 1300.6261 | like, | 1301.0784 |
1529 | | 1301.2043 | usually the vibe will bring | 1303.7596 |
1531 | | 1303.8668 | together certain groups of people. | 1305.4709 |
1533 | | 1305.9698 | And so the- the choir groups, we were all kind of chill. | 1309.2653 |
1535 | | 1309.6943 | Um, and they were sort of like-minded. | 1311.3216 |
1537 | | 1311.9185 | Um, | 1312.4163 |
1539 | | 1313.3302 | there was heavy emphasis on wearing Jordans at the time, | 1315.9601 |
1541 | | 1316.3051 | and | 1316.9253 |
1543 | | 1317.1351 | I remember in the- the music group, there weren't many people wearing Jordans. | 1321.0772 |
1545 | | 1321.7223 | And I felt | 1322.2119 |
1547 | | 1322.4917 | good | 1322.9113 |
1549 | | 1323.0465 | cause I didn't | 1323.6900 |
1551 | | 1323.9372 | wear them either. | 1324.5946 |
1553 | | 1324.8406 | Like I didn't have money for it. | 1325.8944 |
1555 | | 1326.8317 | Um, | 1327.4192 |
1557 | | 1329.2237 | <ts> | 1330.6679 |
1559 | | 1332.2628 | [yeah.] | 1332.5519 |
1560 | DCB_int_01 | 1332.2674 | [Did you have] a favorite subject? | 1333.6570 |
1561 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1334.4497 | Favorite subject, | 1335.2657 |
1563 | | 1337.8012 | English. | 1338.3560 |
1565 | | 1338.7617 | My homeroom | 1339.4332 |
1567 | | 1339.6244 | class, | 1340.1932 |
1569 | | 1340.6642 | uh, was- | 1341.9325 |
1571 | | 1342.6168 | my homeroom teacher Miss /RD-NAME-2/, she was a English teacher. | 1344.7944 |
1572 | DCB_int_01 | 1344.9203 | Mm. | 1345.1581 |
1573 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1345.4705 | And | 1346.3704 |
1575 | | 1346.8927 | she was one of those teachers who, | 1348.5060 |
1577 | | 1349.2416 | looking back at it now, | 1350.4260 |
1579 | | 1350.9203 | um, she was very human with us. | 1352.7714 |
1581 | | 1353.2004 | Um, whenever | 1354.7240 |
1583 | | 1355.0831 | her then boyfriend, | 1356.3607 |
1585 | | 1356.7757 | um, | 1357.3492 |
1587 | | 1357.4658 | would like, | 1358.0580 |
1589 | | 1358.2818 | be out of town, she would be sad. | 1360.0106 |
1591 | | 1360.0899 | And we would see that, and it would be a thing. | 1361.7965 |
1593 | | 1362.1369 | Um, when he would come back in town, | 1363.7642 |
1595 | | 1363.9135 | you would notice. She'd be | 1364.9486 |
1597 | | 1365.1771 | visually giddy. | 1365.8952 |
1599 | | 1366.3352 | Um, and like, oh, like, that's what's up. And like, | 1368.3495 |
1601 | | 1368.5034 | that's- | 1368.8951 |
1603 | | 1369.4173 | that humanity | 1370.2380 |
1605 | | 1370.5737 | um, | 1371.0214 |
1607 | | 1371.2265 | resonated with me. | 1372.1684 |
1609 | | 1372.6289 | Um, | 1373.3517 |
1611 | | 1374.8671 | yeah. | 1375.2308 |
1613 | | 1375.8743 | And I'll | 1376.2147 |
1615 | | 1376.3779 | talk a bit about that a little bit later too. | 1378.1358 |
1617 | | 1378.4984 | Um, she was the first teacher | 1380.0837 |
1619 | | 1380.5081 | that | 1380.9510 |
1621 | | 1381.0583 | straight up told me- | 1382.0328 |
1623 | | 1382.4618 | like, I- I got | 1383.2685 |
1625 | | 1383.4270 | detention for something, | 1384.6487 |
1627 | | 1384.8854 | and I just | 1385.6268 |
1629 | | 1385.8319 | did not wanna do the work. | 1387.2262 |
1631 | | 1387.3474 | This was eighth grade. | 1388.4665 |
1633 | | 1388.8162 | Just was done. I was like, I'm fucking through with this shit. | 1390.9865 |
1635 | | 1391.6128 | Everybody | 1392.0185 |
1637 | | 1392.2096 | joning on me. I'm | 1392.9744 |
1639 | | 1393.2588 | angry and | 1393.8696 |
1641 | | 1394.0561 | <grumbles> and | 1394.6577 |
1643 | | 1394.8302 | hormones and | 1395.6369 |
1645 | | 1395.9586 | didn't know they were hormones at the time. | 1397.6221 |
1647 | | 1398.0464 | Uh, I was like, <grumbles> this is | 1399.5992 |
1649 | | 1399.9069 | bullshit. | 1400.2193 |
1651 | | 1400.4059 | <grumbles> | 1400.7556 |
1653 | | 1401.2405 | And then Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 1402.3503 |
1655 | | 1402.6243 | um, | 1403.0439 |
1657 | | 1403.2398 | she put me- she made me stay after school, | 1405.1096 |
1659 | | 1405.8277 | and | 1406.6577 |
1661 | | 1407.7488 | like, | 1408.0612 |
1663 | | 1408.2372 | she /would just-/ | 1408.8900 |
1665 | | 1409.0439 | <laugh> | 1409.2864 |
1667 | | 1409.5522 | she had this real heart-to-heart moment with like, | 1411.8463 |
1669 | | 1412.1820 | /RD-NAME-2/, | 1412.6437 |
1671 | | 1413.8933 | why? | 1414.3736 |
1673 | | 1414.6849 | Like, what- | 1415.2118 |
1675 | | 1416.0884 | what is going on? | 1416.8811 |
1677 | | 1416.9977 | Like, | 1417.4406 |
1679 | | 1417.7437 | you're a smart kid. | 1418.6157 |
1681 | | 1419.1426 | Uh, | 1419.4550 |
1683 | | 1419.5669 | why don't you just- | 1420.6989 |
1685 | | 1421.0253 | why are you not doing the homework? | 1422.7226 |
1687 | | 1422.8624 | Like, why are you not doing homework? | 1424.2940 |
1689 | | 1424.5644 | It's like, cause I don't feel like it, | 1425.6509 |
1691 | | 1425.9726 | and I'm frustrated. | 1426.8151 |
1693 | | 1427.0439 | I don't wanna be here. | 1428.0185 |
1695 | | 1428.2469 | And she was like, /RD-NAME-2/, | 1429.0163 |
1697 | | 1429.8743 | do the homework, | 1430.6390 |
1699 | | 1431.4643 | and you get to leave. | 1432.4517 |
1701 | | 1433.4309 | This is a means to an end. | 1434.9137 |
1703 | | 1435.5246 | You do the work, | 1436.5131 |
1705 | | 1437.0680 | so that you can go. <laugh> | 1438.7408 |
1707 | | 1439.0999 | Like, | 1439.3936 |
1709 | | 1439.5195 | finish your work. | 1440.2376 |
1711 | | 1440.5967 | Just make it through school, | 1441.9256 |
1713 | | 1442.3872 | and the rest | 1443.3245 |
1715 | | 1443.6835 | is | 1443.9400 |
1717 | | 1444.6989 | the process of you just figuring it all out, | 1446.5687 |
1719 | | 1446.6992 | how it applies. | 1447.5526 |
1721 | | 1447.9955 | I was like, yeah, | 1448.8535 |
1723 | | 1449.2125 | I hear you, | 1449.8327 |
1725 | | 1450.5730 | but ah, hormones still, | 1452.3728 |
1727 | | 1452.6153 | right? | 1452.9557 |
1729 | | 1453.7297 | <ts> | 1453.8417 |
1731 | | 1453.9489 | But it got through. | 1454.6204 |
1733 | | 1455.1426 | <ts> | 1455.2032 |
1735 | | 1455.2545 | Um, | 1456.0694 |
1737 | | 1457.4636 | and then the- | 1458.0511 |
1739 | | 1458.1817 | the next year | 1459.0676 |
1741 | | 1459.2401 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ wasn't with us anymore. | 1460.6856 |
1743 | | 1461.0773 | She- um, | 1461.9726 |
1745 | | 1462.1813 | she | 1462.6429 |
1747 | | 1463.0719 | left the school. I think | 1464.4335 |
1749 | | 1464.9837 | her and her husband got married. I remember that. | 1467.2732 |
1751 | | 1468.1580 | Um, she was really excited when he proposed, and | 1470.7272 |
1753 | | 1471.0723 | we all were really excited for her too. | 1472.5877 |
1755 | | 1473.2592 | Um, | 1473.7628 |
1757 | | 1474.0740 | and when she found out she wasn't coming back to the school the next year, we all wrote letters to her. | 1477.9769 |
1759 | | 1478.5877 | Um, | 1479.1659 |
1761 | | 1480.1778 | yeah. | 1480.4529 |
1763 | | 1480.8714 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ holds a very | 1482.1397 |
1765 | | 1482.2749 | special place in my- | 1483.5059 |
1767 | | 1483.8370 | in my | 1484.1681 |
1769 | | 1484.7043 | teacher | 1485.1519 |
1771 | | 1485.3245 | land. | 1485.7861 |
1773 | | 1486.3725 | Um, I appreciate her. | 1487.6338 |
1774 | DCB_int_01 | 1487.9299 | Have you had any contact with her since? | 1489.5130 |
1775 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1489.4322 | <ts> | 1489.5153 |
1776 | | 1491.2172 | I think we may be friends on Facebook, | 1494.9091 |
1778 | | 1495.4360 | but the last name changed, | 1497.1100 |
1780 | | 1497.2592 | and so I wouldn't know. | 1498.3698 |
1782 | | 1498.9087 | Um (laughing), | 1499.8319 |
1784 | | 1500.2796 | and | 1500.4987 |
1786 | | 1500.6153 | again, it's been years. So like, trying to remember- | 1503.5343 |
1788 | | 1503.6602 | I'm'a- I'm'a look her up. | 1504.5974 |
1790 | | 1505.2258 | Um, I remember | 1506.2936 |
1792 | | 1507.1422 | <ts> | 1507.2168 |
1794 | | 1507.2774 | right around when I was graduating I was looking for her as well, just to be like, oh yeah, like, I did it, | 1511.7620 |
1796 | | 1512.0045 | I did it. | 1512.3122 |
1798 | | 1512.4661 | You know? | 1512.7552 |
1800 | | 1513.2774 | Um, | 1513.8463 |
1802 | | 1514.0142 | and I think we- we got back in contact for awhile. | 1516.7500 |
1804 | | 1517.3703 | She's- | 1517.8086 |
1806 | | 1518.3029 | last time I checked she was still in the- | 1519.6598 |
1808 | | 1519.8463 | the DMV area. | 1520.8675 |
1810 | | 1521.8467 | But | 1522.0519 |
1812 | | 1522.7362 | yeah. | 1523.0393 |
1814 | | 1524.3262 | Yeah. | 1524.5314 |
1815 | DCB_int_01 | 1525.0769 | So when you left | 1525.7904 |
1817 | | 1525.9256 | junior high, | 1526.5737 |
1819 | | 1527.0307 | [after] all your- | 1527.7814 |
1820 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1527.0354 | [Well-] | 1527.2125 |
1821 | | 1528.5123 | ninth grade. | 1529.0766 |
1822 | DCB_int_01 | 1529.2677 | Mm-hm. | 1529.7107 |
1823 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1529.7060 | Um, that's a- | 1530.4801 |
1824 | | 1530.6573 | well- | 1530.9371 |
1825 | DCB_int_01 | 1531.2774 | Oh [junior high was still-] | 1532.3686 |
1826 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1531.5619 | [I- I still-] | 1532.1525 |
1827 | | 1532.4758 | still had ninth grade, | 1533.6602 |
1829 | | 1533.7581 | um, and that's when- | 1535.2584 |
1831 | | 1535.6687 | oh my gosh, I don't remember her | 1537.9582 |
1833 | | 1538.1634 | name. | 1538.6856 |
1835 | | 1539.8374 | Um, but it was a different teacher for my ninth grade year, | 1542.5854 |
1837 | | 1543.1049 | and while she as alright, | 1544.5038 |
1839 | | 1544.9747 | she wasn't like, | 1546.0089 |
1841 | | 1546.7781 | she wasn't Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 1547.7340 |
1843 | | 1548.1350 | so I wasn't cool with that. | 1549.2075 |
1845 | | 1549.8044 | Um, (laughing) cause I knew Miss /RD-NAME-2/ cared, | 1551.5716 |
1846 | DCB_int_01 | 1551.9901 | [Mm-hm.] | 1552.5294 |
1847 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1552.0600 | [and I knew Miss] /RD-NAME-2/ cared about all of us | 1553.9159 |
1848 | | 1554.4847 | as much as I knew she cared about me. | 1556.4572 |
1850 | | 1557.1473 | Um, | 1557.8607 |
1852 | | 1558.5077 | where- | 1559.0766 |
1854 | | 1559.7807 | I think it was Miss /RD-NAME-2/ or Miss | 1561.9302 |
1856 | | 1562.1214 | /RD-NAME-2/ or something. | 1563.1566 |
1858 | | 1563.3804 | <ts> | 1563.5343 |
1860 | | 1564.3958 | Miss | 1564.8667 |
1862 | | 1565.1278 | insert name, | 1565.9485 |
1864 | | 1566.1490 | um, I did not feel that she cared as much for us. | 1569.6229 |
1866 | | 1569.9027 | Um, | 1570.4809 |
1868 | | 1571.8553 | that was also | 1573.5432 |
1870 | | 1573.6971 | one of the years- I got jumped | 1575.5949 |
1872 | | 1576.1999 | outside of my school. | 1578.2469 |
1874 | | 1578.9697 | I was hanging out on a basketball court, | 1580.6064 |
1876 | | 1581.0307 | waiting on a friend of mine who was playing basketball, | 1583.2351 |
1878 | | 1583.7946 | and some youngins was walked up, | 1584.9044 |
1880 | | 1585.0863 | and like hit me upside the head | 1586.5551 |
1882 | | 1586.8908 | <ts> | 1586.9841 |
1884 | | 1587.0540 | with a- | 1587.5996 |
1886 | | 1588.3025 | it was like, | 1589.0019 |
1888 | | 1590.2423 | newspaper | 1591.1189 |
1890 | | 1591.3987 | that they wrapped up | 1592.4245 |
1892 | | 1592.7649 | and then taped up, | 1593.8747 |
1894 | | 1594.7268 | and like, just | 1595.5335 |
1896 | | 1595.9765 | hit me upside the head with it. | 1597.1096 |
1898 | | 1597.6645 | And so I got up, | 1598.4805 |
1900 | | 1598.9421 | and I fought for awhile, | 1600.7127 |
1902 | | 1600.9740 | but it was like seven of 'em. | 1602.2580 |
1904 | | 1602.7925 | And that's not an exaggeration | 1604.1587 |
1906 | | 1604.6250 | cause I know how sometimes when you get hit upside the head | 1607.1139 |
1908 | | 1607.4496 | things get blurry. | 1608.3309 |
1910 | | 1608.6386 | Nah, it was at least seven of them. | 1610.4665 |
1912 | | 1610.9048 | Um, | 1611.3478 |
1914 | | 1613.3470 | and I ran back into the- uh, into the school, and they're like, why are you in here? Blah blah blah! And I'm like, yo, I just got jumped. | 1619.0999 |
1916 | | 1619.3890 | Like why the hell are y'all treating me like I'm a criminal? | 1621.4826 |
1918 | | 1621.8044 | Y'all know me! | 1622.5458 |
1920 | | 1622.9095 | My homeroom right there! | 1623.8887 |
1922 | | 1624.0507 | Like come on. | 1624.6616 |
1924 | | 1624.9880 | Look out for the cookout! | 1625.7433 |
1926 | | 1626.5967 | Um, | 1627.2681 |
1928 | | 1627.7904 | and so they went out there and tried to find the dudes. Of course they were gone by the time. | 1631.4169 |
1930 | | 1632.2469 | Um, | 1632.9464 |
1932 | | 1633.7158 | and I remember | 1634.4758 |
1934 | | 1634.6343 | a Marine | 1635.4117 |
1936 | | 1635.7954 | was over there doing some drills, | 1637.4962 |
1938 | | 1637.9858 | and he didn't stop and help. | 1639.5665 |
1940 | | 1640.1308 | And that's when I started having issue with the military | 1642.1591 |
1942 | | 1642.5963 | cause I'm like, you a mother fucking Marine. | 1644.1024 |
1944 | | 1644.3962 | Like you the | 1644.8531 |
1946 | | 1645.0443 | biggest, | 1645.4127 |
1948 | | 1645.5526 | baddest, | 1646.1401 |
1950 | | 1646.5271 | hoorah. Y'all go hard. This that and the third. Jump into | 1649.5895 |
1952 | | 1649.6874 | plane. Jump out of a plane. Shoot people. | 1651.9163 |
1954 | | 1652.5318 | <ts> | 1652.6390 |
1956 | | 1652.7463 | You couldn't stop | 1653.4737 |
1958 | | 1653.6322 | like a couple of youngins that were beating up another teenager? | 1656.6386 |
1960 | | 1656.9790 | For real? | 1657.4080 |
1962 | | 1657.8743 | So | 1658.2287 |
1964 | | 1659.2638 | that was a thought. | 1659.8280 |
1966 | | 1660.1720 | Still hold some resentment | 1661.2258 |
1968 | | 1661.3517 | toward that. | 1661.8413 |
1970 | | 1662.2376 | Um, | 1662.7878 |
1972 | | 1663.8929 | <ts> | 1663.9909 |
1974 | | 1664.1261 | yeah. | 1664.4525 |
1976 | | 1664.9607 | So that's junior high. | 1665.8700 |
1978 | | 1666.0694 | <ts> | 1666.1533 |
1980 | | 1667.3097 | Nope. | 1667.6314 |
1982 | | 1667.9812 | Um, prom. | 1669.1702 |
1984 | | 1669.5992 | Ninth grade prom. | 1670.6250 |
1986 | | 1672.3025 | I didn't ask anybody. | 1673.4636 |
1988 | | 1673.5895 | I wore a black silk shirt. | 1675.0023 |
1990 | | 1675.5572 | I fell head over heels | 1677.5389 |
1992 | | 1677.6404 | for the his girl who I danced with. | 1679.6967 |
1994 | | 1680.1537 | Um, we danced, and then ended up dancing with each other for the rest of the night. | 1683.5996 |
1996 | | 1684.0798 | She | 1684.6068 |
1998 | | 1684.9833 | is, uh, known affectionately | 1687.1329 |
2000 | | 1687.6924 | in my memory as Lavender Girl. | 1689.5203 |
2002 | | 1690.0192 | <ts> | 1690.0938 |
2004 | | 1690.2559 | And | 1691.1325 |
2006 | | 1691.2444 | I remember | 1691.7340 |
2008 | | 1692.6153 | being like, | 1693.2122 |
2010 | | 1693.9163 | a weird writer and writing like, | 1695.7674 |
2012 | | 1696.1871 | comic books sch- scenes involving me and Lavender Girl like, being superheroes. | 1700.0888 |
2014 | | 1700.3452 | <ts> | 1700.4105 |
2016 | | 1700.4898 | Alright? | 1700.7696 |
2018 | | 1700.9188 | <ts> | 1701.0400 |
2020 | | 1701.3944 | Move forward. | 1702.1171 |
2022 | | 1703.1465 | [<laugh>] | 1703.5289 |
2023 | DCB_int_01 | 1703.1605 | [Do you still] know Lavender Girl? | 1704.4058 |
2024 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1704.5780 | No idea. Never knew her name. | 1706.2427 |
2026 | | 1706.4245 | Um, | 1707.4690 |
2028 | | 1707.8187 | like, | 1708.2104 |
2030 | | 1708.8994 | like, legit like, we danced with each other at, | 1710.8718 |
2032 | | 1711.1376 | uh, ninth grade prom, | 1712.4851 |
2034 | | 1712.6110 | and | 1713.3944 |
2036 | | 1716.2889 | yeah. | 1716.5920 |
2038 | | 1716.9277 | That's a pattern, | 1717.7251 |
2040 | | 1717.8790 | um, | 1718.6670 |
2042 | | 1719.1333 | in my- | 1719.9679 |
2044 | | 1722.7272 | yeah, | 1722.9883 |
2046 | | 1723.1049 | that is a pattern. | 1723.7982 |
2048 | | 1724.2100 | Um, | 1725.0866 |
2050 | | 1725.6928 | at least now I know people's names. | 1727.3423 |
2052 | | 1727.5848 | Um, | 1728.1444 |
2054 | | 1728.5360 | and it's never- it's never sexual. | 1730.4665 |
2056 | | 1730.7136 | Like, | 1731.1706 |
2058 | | 1731.7954 | one night stands or anything like that. | 1733.5662 |
2060 | | 1733.9252 | It's always | 1734.6340 |
2062 | | 1734.8438 | a really intense | 1736.2380 |
2064 | | 1736.5924 | like, | 1736.8675 |
2066 | | 1737.0820 | moment of togetherness | 1738.9040 |
2068 | | 1739.2677 | that does not involve that type of intimacy. | 1741.4453 |
2070 | | 1741.7950 | It's always a moment of intimacy though. | 1743.4970 |
2072 | | 1743.8094 | Um, | 1744.4797 |
2074 | | 1744.6476 | be it- | 1745.1092 |
2076 | | 1746.2936 | um, | 1747.1189 |
2078 | | 1747.3474 | I went to a conference | 1748.5411 |
2080 | | 1748.7789 | in two th- | 1750.4715 |
2082 | | 1751.0159 | ninety-nine. | 1751.6874 |
2084 | | 1752.4521 | <ts> | 1752.5500 |
2086 | | 1752.6713 | Yeah, I went to a conference in ninety -nine, | 1754.5970 |
2088 | | 1755.1986 | and | 1755.9819 |
2090 | | 1756.5636 | there was a young lady. | 1757.4863 |
2092 | | 1758.2842 | We- uh, | 1759.0163 |
2094 | | 1759.5665 | we ended up playing like, Jenga for hours or something like that. | 1762.3456 |
2096 | | 1762.9180 | And then, | 1763.6734 |
2098 | | 1764.0977 | afterwards, | 1764.9464 |
2100 | | 1765.1003 | we were all just hanging out in the youth lounge, | 1766.8815 |
2102 | | 1767.2032 | and we just laid next to each other, | 1768.6207 |
2104 | | 1768.8014 | and we shared like, | 1770.3355 |
2106 | | 1770.8158 | just | 1771.2308 |
2108 | | 1771.8323 | stories of, | 1772.7696 |
2110 | | 1772.9468 | uh, perseverance | 1774.2477 |
2112 | | 1774.7175 | and struggle. | 1775.3563 |
2114 | | 1775.8506 | And we just shared those stories for like, | 1777.8090 |
2116 | | 1778.4173 | hours, | 1779.2312 |
2118 | | 1779.7441 | hours, and then just fell asleep in each other's arms. | 1782.0975 |
2120 | | 1782.6713 | And woke up and never saw her again. | 1785.2735 |
2122 | | 1785.8747 | I remember she had | 1787.0206 |
2124 | | 1787.3750 | a tattoo under her belly button that said, boys lie. | 1790.1308 |
2126 | | 1791.1659 | <ts> | 1791.2918 |
2128 | | 1791.8514 | And I was like, damn. | 1792.6662 |
2130 | | 1793.0999 | Like, that's- | 1793.7480 |
2132 | | 1794.1537 | I never wanna be the reason for that tattoo. | 1796.8768 |
2134 | | 1797.5296 | Um, | 1798.0565 |
2136 | | 1800.0511 | yeah. | 1800.3542 |
2138 | | 1801.3474 | Or | 1801.7204 |
2140 | | 1802.2706 | the young lady, um, | 1803.6462 |
2142 | | 1803.8700 | in two thousand three | 1804.9180 |
2144 | | 1805.1325 | who I met at a different conference in Dallas, Texas. | 1807.7904 |
2146 | | 1808.2380 | <ts> | 1808.3639 |
2148 | | 1808.5831 | And | 1809.3804 |
2150 | | 1811.6874 | we actually got snowed-in. It was the blizzard of o three, | 1814.3546 |
2152 | | 1814.8209 | and | 1815.5785 |
2154 | | 1816.2605 | we were- we weren't able to fly back to DC because we were covered in snow. | 1820.1727 |
2155 | DCB_int_01 | 1820.6437 | [Mm-hm.] | 1821.2032 |
2156 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1820.6670 | [And so we] stayed, | 1821.7301 |
2157 | | 1822.7268 | um, in Dallas for a extra week. | 1824.7972 |
2159 | | 1825.2961 | And I had met her, | 1826.5131 |
2161 | | 1826.9841 | um, she ran an infinity group at this conference, | 1829.4449 |
2163 | | 1829.9905 | and she told- | 1830.6013 |
2165 | | 1830.7878 | like, | 1830.9697 |
2167 | | 1831.5526 | it was for the- the goth and other kids, right? | 1833.7954 |
2169 | | 1834.2291 | And so | 1834.5415 |
2171 | | 1834.9087 | punk goth /RD-NAME-2/ | 1836.0278 |
2173 | | 1836.3355 | walks into this, uh, infinity group, | 1838.1820 |
2175 | | 1838.5551 | and I'm like, oh this is cool. Like it's a bunch of like-minded folks, and we're all doing HIV prevention work, and it's great. | 1843.5386 |
2177 | | 1844.3592 | And | 1844.9794 |
2179 | | 1845.0960 | it's being led by | 1846.4704 |
2181 | | 1846.6336 | this | 1847.1092 |
2183 | | 1847.7060 | young lady who's younger than me | 1849.5199 |
2185 | | 1849.9489 | in this situ- I was like, | 1850.9654 |
2187 | | 1851.3804 | what? | 1851.5250 |
2189 | | 1853.3657 | I don't even remember. | 1854.2050 |
2191 | | 1856.3173 | Nope. | 1856.5178 |
2193 | | 1858.8294 | Was it t- | 1859.1838 |
2195 | | 1859.4729 | it was definitely two thousand three. | 1861.1236 |
2197 | | 1862.9281 | She was sixteen? | 1864.6814 |
2199 | | 1867.0769 | No. | 1867.5339 |
2201 | | 1868.0422 | She was seventeen. | 1869.7161 |
2203 | | 1870.5123 | Cause I was gonna be | 1872.0511 |
2205 | | 1873.0618 | nineteen that year. | 1875.3338 |
2207 | | 1875.6369 | Yeah. | 1875.9575 |
2209 | | 1876.7781 | Um, | 1877.5009 |
2211 | | 1878.2703 | and so | 1878.7832 |
2213 | | 1880.1634 | sh- I walk in, | 1880.9561 |
2215 | | 1881.1799 | and it's this | 1881.5110 |
2217 | | 1881.8560 | gorgeous young lady, | 1882.7781 |
2219 | | 1883.2584 | um, | 1883.6824 |
2221 | | 1883.8133 | leading this workshop. | 1885.0163 |
2223 | | 1885.6225 | And she's talking about like, | 1886.7649 |
2225 | | 1886.8908 | you know, what are you looking forward to at the f- | 1888.2943 |
2227 | | 1888.4704 | at the conference and this that and the third. And have you ever been out- out of your town before. I'm like, yeah, | 1893.1706 |
2229 | | 1893.5529 | but | 1893.8094 |
2231 | | 1894.2011 | not like- I've never been to- you know, this is the furthest south I've ever been, but it's blah blah blah. | 1898.1028 |
2233 | | 1898.6810 | And | 1899.1939 |
2235 | | 1899.3991 | she had | 1899.7709 |
2237 | | 1899.8922 | each of us write a s- uh, secret. | 1901.5149 |
2239 | | 1901.9998 | Um, something that, you know, | 1903.5432 |
2241 | | 1904.0795 | we had been hiding, and we were looking forward to sharing | 1906.7408 |
2243 | | 1906.8434 | during the conference. | 1907.6314 |
2245 | | 1908.1723 | And | 1909.0256 |
2247 | | 1910.2660 | her secret was, I have a crush on somebody in this room. | 1913.0713 |
2249 | | 1913.4916 | I was like, oh that's interesting. | 1914.6293 |
2251 | | 1914.7785 | Right? | 1914.9930 |
2253 | | 1916.2333 | We end up hanging out | 1917.3384 |
2255 | | 1917.7628 | after the snowed-in situation, | 1919.4962 |
2257 | | 1919.6874 | and | 1920.3122 |
2259 | | 1920.4428 | it was so wild. Like, we | 1922.4572 |
2261 | | 1923.0493 | talked about | 1923.7022 |
2263 | | 1923.8269 | music and how she was in a ska band, and | 1927.0676 |
2265 | | 1927.9116 | we ended up kissing. And | 1930.1265 |
2267 | | 1930.4144 | I went back to her place, | 1931.9019 |
2269 | | 1932.2703 | and we just read poetry to each other, | 1934.2567 |
2271 | | 1934.4245 | even though her mom left us two glasses of wine sitting out. | 1937.2537 |
2273 | | 1937.6175 | And I was like, that's weird. It's a set up. It's a trap. | 1940.0328 |
2275 | | 1940.5458 | Your mom's tryna get us. | 1941.6415 |
2277 | | 1942.1953 | Um, | 1943.0486 |
2279 | | 1943.2910 | yeah, it was wild. | 1944.1583 |
2281 | | 1944.4661 | And | 1944.7785 |
2283 | | 1946.2147 | saw her again. So, | 1947.7022 |
2285 | | 1948.3352 | you know, | 1948.6103 |
2287 | | 1948.7968 | Dallas, Texas, | 1949.5522 |
2289 | | 1949.9345 | DC. | 1950.3915 |
2291 | | 1950.5920 | Like, no way that we could ever make that work. | 1952.4525 |
2293 | | 1953.0120 | Um, | 1953.7395 |
2295 | | 1953.8654 | so | 1954.5088 |
2297 | | 1954.9833 | come to find out, I worked with one of her cousins. | 1957.5572 |
2299 | | 1957.9862 | And so | 1958.6530 |
2301 | | 1959.0447 | her cousin would come to me and be like, /RD-NAME-2/, | 1960.5648 |
2303 | | 1961.0066 | /RD-NAME-2/ was asking about you. Blah blah blah blah. | 1962.8438 |
2305 | | 1963.0396 | Leave me alone. Don't tell me. <whine> blush blush blush. | 1965.6463 |
2307 | | 1966.0845 | <ts> | 1966.2337 |
2309 | | 1966.3585 | And | 1966.9926 |
2311 | | 1967.8786 | she ended up coming up here for a conference | 1969.7950 |
2313 | | 1970.5318 | like two thousand eight, | 1971.7301 |
2315 | | 1971.9586 | two thousand nine? | 1972.7986 |
2317 | | 1973.1372 | And it was just like old times. It was crazy. | 1975.6949 |
2319 | | 1976.1727 | Um, | 1976.7509 |
2321 | | 1977.2778 | she's a DJ now. | 1978.2477 |
2323 | | 1978.5496 | I keep up with her, | 1979.4123 |
2325 | | 1979.7200 | um, through Facebook and | 1981.1655 |
2327 | | 1981.3194 | you know. | 1981.5852 |
2329 | | 1981.8883 | She's doing well. | 1982.6064 |
2331 | | 1983.1799 | I'm happy for her. | 1983.7954 |
2333 | | 1985.1372 | <ts> | 1985.2631 |
2335 | | 1985.6128 | Yeah. | 1985.8413 |
2337 | | 1986.0604 | I have intense | 1986.8391 |
2339 | | 1987.0583 | ass moments like that. | 1988.4525 |
2341 | | 1988.9374 | Um, | 1989.7255 |
2343 | | 1990.1684 | and they happen fairly often. | 1991.7060 |
2345 | | 1991.8879 | Not often, | 1992.6480 |
2347 | | 1992.9417 | that's a lie. | 1993.5106 |
2349 | | 1994.0375 | It's like every couple of years, | 1995.5296 |
2351 | | 1995.9341 | um, this really intense moment of intimacy. | 1998.2190 |
2353 | | 1998.7552 | Um, | 1999.2728 |
2355 | | 2000.6343 | and I think it's because I personally | 2002.1311 |
2357 | | 2003.8879 | want to create spaces of intimacy | 2006.0515 |
2359 | | 2006.5784 | for all | 2007.5389 |
2360 | DCB_int_01 | 2007.6185 | Mm-hm. | 2007.9518 |
2361 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2008.0414 | so that I can be a part of them, | 2009.7620 |
2363 | | 2010.3775 | and | 2011.2355 |
2365 | | 2011.9256 | I feel like, | 2012.6577 |
2367 | | 2012.8722 | we as a community, | 2014.2151 |
2369 | | 2014.6009 | um, | 2014.9367 |
2371 | | 2015.1045 | don't have | 2015.9345 |
2373 | | 2016.2423 | intimacy outside of romantic, | 2019.0400 |
2375 | | 2019.4970 | uh, interest and outside of sexual situations. | 2022.4941 |
2377 | | 2022.9137 | And so | 2023.5526 |
2379 | | 2023.7297 | we lose a certain level of compassion for each other as humans, | 2026.9413 |
2381 | | 2027.4542 | so. | 2027.7340 |
2383 | | 2029.6178 | Yeah. | 2030.2100 |
2385 | | 2031.3897 | <laugh> | 2031.9913 |
2386 | DCB_int_01 | 2032.4937 | So there's like five | 2033.4776 |
2388 | | 2033.7200 | different things I wanna ask you | 2034.9231 |
2389 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2035.0396 | [Word.] | 2035.3660 |
2390 | DCB_int_01 | 2035.2448 | [but] | 2035.4640 |
2391 | | 2035.7670 | I know we're- | 2036.4478 |
2393 | | 2036.8302 | we're at the | 2037.3478 |
2395 | | 2037.4923 | high school part of the story, and I [kind of wanna get-] cause I think this is really fascinating that you went to | 2041.6551 |
2396 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2038.9273 | [Mm-hm.] | 2039.3470 |
2397 | DCB_int_01 | 2042.7416 | high schools like, all over the city, | 2044.3130 |
2398 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2044.5077 | Yeah. | 2044.8294 |
2399 | DCB_int_01 | 2045.1651 | which is cool. | 2045.9765 |
2400 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2046.7459 | Yeah. [<laugh>] | 2048.4385 |
2401 | DCB_int_01 | 2047.4966 | [But there's some other things I wanna] ask you, so let's do the high school part, and then I wanna ask you about the | 2051.3330 |
2402 | | 2051.4542 | artsy part | 2052.2003 |
2404 | | 2052.4288 | [and] | 2052.7832 |
2405 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2052.4847 | [Okay.] | 2052.8158 |
2406 | DCB_int_01 | 2052.9184 | so many just- | 2053.6785 |
2408 | | 2054.1354 | oh, you're just so good. | 2055.1193 |
2409 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2055.3944 | [Aw], | 2055.7441 |
2410 | DCB_int_01 | 2055.4016 | [Okay.] | 2055.7670 |
2411 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2055.8700 | yay. | 2056.1498 |
2412 | DCB_int_01 | 2056.4062 | Um, so let's talk about high school. First of all, you started at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2059.1795 |
2413 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2059.5013 | Yeah, started at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2060.4572 |
2415 | | 2060.7229 | So | 2060.9934 |
2417 | | 2061.6042 | high school, | 2062.3316 |
2419 | | 2062.7222 | with all those different locations, this sounds really interesting. | 2065.2868 |
2421 | | 2065.6785 | I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ for two days. | 2066.9374 |
2422 | DCB_int_01 | 2067.1100 | [<laugh>] | 2068.1218 |
2423 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2067.3851 | [The second day of school], I jumped out the window and said, I'm not going back. | 2070.6713 |
2424 | | 2072.0049 | That's the most interesting part about it. | 2073.8001 |
2426 | | 2074.0752 | [Um], | 2074.6627 |
2427 | DCB_int_01 | 2074.0834 | [Why?] | 2074.4704 |
2428 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2075.6827 | cau- like, | 2076.3915 |
2430 | | 2076.9371 | so, | 2077.3101 |
2432 | | 2077.5852 | as I mentioned with /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, | 2079.4084 |
2434 | | 2079.8001 | um, there were two different crews. | 2081.8319 |
2436 | | 2082.0185 | There was that Langston Lane | 2083.3800 |
2438 | | 2083.5432 | and Woodland, and they were right across from each other. | 2085.7161 |
2440 | | 2085.9994 | And way back then, they had beef. | 2087.8599 |
2442 | | 2088.2376 | Um, | 2088.8904 |
2444 | | 2089.8929 | and | 2090.3732 |
2446 | | 2090.6903 | by the time I got to high school, | 2091.9586 |
2448 | | 2092.0927 | they didn't really have beef anymore, | 2093.5988 |
2450 | | 2094.0418 | but they were | 2095.2355 |
2452 | | 2095.3474 | the- | 2095.7577 |
2454 | | 2095.9536 | pretty much the baddest folk | 2098.0752 |
2456 | | 2098.2372 | in all- | 2098.7875 |
2458 | | 2098.8854 | whatever school they're from. | 2100.3542 |
2460 | | 2100.7039 | Like, whatever school you go to, | 2101.9862 |
2462 | | 2102.4525 | if | 2102.7229 |
2464 | | 2102.8861 | somebody was there from Langston Lane or Woodland, | 2105.3423 |
2466 | | 2105.6454 | they were probably the most powerful thug within the jont. | 2108.3359 |
2468 | | 2108.7836 | <ts> | 2108.8628 |
2470 | | 2109.0260 | Um, | 2109.6648 |
2472 | | 2109.9633 | and then | 2110.5310 |
2474 | | 2110.6849 | I knew them. | 2111.4869 |
2476 | | 2112.1024 | So, there would al- there was- | 2113.8044 |
2478 | | 2114.1214 | like, I got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 2115.3384 |
2480 | | 2115.7907 | and I'm taking senior- | 2116.7875 |
2482 | | 2117.7900 | I was taking senior courses at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ as a tenth grader. | 2120.2333 |
2484 | | 2120.6810 | <ts> | 2120.7602 |
2486 | | 2120.8535 | Um, | 2121.5623 |
2488 | | 2121.7674 | like, | 2122.1684 |
2490 | | 2122.6196 | I'm walking into class, and they're like, oh, what grade you in? | 2125.4546 |
2492 | | 2125.6038 | I'm like, oh, I'm in tenth. | 2126.6012 |
2494 | | 2127.0633 | Oh nah, that- | 2127.8560 |
2496 | | 2128.0367 | you can't be in the right class. And then they call my name on roll call, and it's like, okay, yeah. | 2131.7904 |
2498 | | 2132.0561 | This doesn't seem right for me, | 2133.4690 |
2500 | | 2134.0099 | um, even though I'm in your class. | 2135.8692 |
2502 | | 2136.3449 | Um, then | 2137.5339 |
2504 | | 2138.8209 | like, I would see | 2139.9155 |
2506 | | 2140.0414 | all the youngins that I used to go- | 2141.6454 |
2508 | | 2141.7807 | go to school with, and | 2142.9604 |
2510 | | 2143.2122 | it- | 2143.3800 |
2512 | | 2144.3033 | they would be like, yo /RD-NAME-1/, you- you coming to- uh, | 2146.4342 |
2514 | | 2146.6196 | oh yeah, you don't need to go to class. Come to | 2147.9951 |
2516 | | 2148.4195 | blah blah blah blah. This that and the third. Meet me over here. Blah blah blah. | 2150.8302 |
2518 | | 2150.9841 | Nah, I'm good. | 2151.6928 |
2520 | | 2151.8001 | Like, | 2152.0239 |
2522 | | 2152.3771 | I didn't wanna be associated with that anymore | 2154.3635 |
2524 | | 2154.7086 | cause I knew where that led. | 2156.1028 |
2526 | | 2156.5364 | Um, | 2157.0540 |
2528 | | 2157.6415 | <gasp> | 2157.8094 |
2530 | | 2158.2279 | story. | 2158.7455 |
2532 | | 2159.2258 | Um, | 2159.7573 |
2534 | | 2159.8692 | I have to go back to elementary school. | 2161.6318 |
2536 | | 2161.9396 | It's those formative, | 2162.8349 |
2538 | | 2162.9887 | uh, memories. | 2163.7721 |
2540 | | 2164.1964 | Um, | 2164.9320 |
2542 | | 2165.5988 | I had a dude that would bully me | 2167.6785 |
2544 | | 2168.0795 | fairly often. | 2168.9701 |
2546 | | 2169.3105 | He was quite the asshole. | 2170.7331 |
2548 | | 2171.4030 | And | 2172.2283 |
2550 | | 2172.7179 | he ended up getting shot. | 2173.8510 |
2552 | | 2174.3732 | <ts> | 2174.5178 |
2554 | | 2174.8488 | at | 2175.0447 |
2556 | | 2175.2125 | a | 2175.3851 |
2558 | | 2175.6136 | different | 2176.2011 |
2560 | | 2176.6289 | elementary school. | 2177.9019 |
2562 | | 2178.6340 | Um, | 2179.3660 |
2564 | | 2179.5619 | I think he was in sixth grade. | 2180.9794 |
2566 | | 2181.4364 | He was picking up his little brother | 2182.9040 |
2568 | | 2183.1745 | and got hit by a stray bullet. | 2184.5500 |
2570 | | 2185.3754 | Um, | 2185.9069 |
2572 | | 2187.2172 | and that's when I realized | 2188.9740 |
2574 | | 2189.1558 | no matter whether you're in the right place | 2191.9116 |
2576 | | 2192.3266 | at the right time, | 2193.5296 |
2578 | | 2194.0227 | it can still be the wrong situation. | 2196.3169 |
2580 | | 2197.1515 | Um, | 2197.8417 |
2582 | | 2198.2613 | cause he was actually doing everything that he was supposed to be doing, | 2201.5428 |
2584 | | 2202.3495 | and he got shot. | 2203.1609 |
2586 | | 2204.0515 | And | 2204.6297 |
2588 | | 2204.7416 | it wasn't | 2205.3245 |
2590 | | 2205.4270 | karma | 2205.9913 |
2592 | | 2206.1626 | for him being a asshole toward me. | 2208.2283 |
2594 | | 2208.8764 | It was just | 2209.7618 |
2596 | | 2211.3944 | the situation. | 2212.3678 |
2598 | | 2212.5357 | He happened to be there. | 2213.5149 |
2600 | | 2214.1071 | And | 2214.6480 |
2602 | | 2215.5992 | I | 2215.6831 |
2604 | | 2216.7229 | didn't cry | 2217.7943 |
2606 | | 2218.0414 | f- | 2218.2279 |
2608 | | 2218.4984 | at his | 2219.0719 |
2610 | | 2219.7200 | funeral. | 2220.3775 |
2612 | | 2221.0396 | I know I went. | 2221.9302 |
2614 | | 2222.6950 | I don't like funerals. | 2223.8840 |
2616 | | 2224.1580 | I- | 2224.3445 |
2618 | | 2225.5009 | I really don't like funerals. They're- | 2227.3054 |
2620 | | 2227.4546 | they're too often for me, | 2228.6810 |
2622 | | 2229.3524 | and so I don't go. | 2230.4342 |
2624 | | 2231.0626 | Um, | 2231.5708 |
2626 | | 2232.7738 | that's that anxiety thing. | 2233.9629 |
2628 | | 2234.5131 | <ts> | 2234.6064 |
2630 | | 2234.7929 | Um, | 2235.4131 |
2632 | | 2236.8341 | yeah. | 2237.1045 |
2634 | | 2237.3377 | So fast forward. | 2238.1304 |
2636 | | 2238.5081 | I knew where that had- | 2239.9116 |
2638 | | 2240.1401 | where that went. | 2241.0120 |
2640 | | 2241.5203 | Um, | 2242.2337 |
2642 | | 2242.6382 | so | 2243.3703 |
2644 | | 2243.5382 | by the time I got to high school, | 2244.8298 |
2646 | | 2245.7158 | I kn- | 2246.0701 |
2648 | | 2246.2846 | I didn't know everything, but I knew enough to be like, I don't need to be here at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 2250.4521 |
2650 | | 2250.7039 | and I jumped out of the window and left. | 2253.9913 |
2652 | | 2254.4191 | I mean it was the first floor window, wasn't | 2256.1630 |
2654 | | 2256.3868 | dangerous | 2257.0303 |
2656 | | 2257.1562 | or anything. | 2257.7531 |
2658 | | 2258.4152 | Um, and I went home. | 2259.8700 |
2660 | | 2260.5450 | And then the next day, I went | 2261.6035 |
2662 | | 2261.7760 | to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 2262.6526 |
2664 | | 2263.0256 | And so | 2263.5759 |
2666 | | 2264.6157 | Woodland | 2265.3384 |
2668 | | 2265.8269 | all went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 2266.9833 |
2670 | | 2267.3843 | Langston Lane | 2268.0418 |
2672 | | 2268.2469 | all went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2268.9184 |
2674 | | 2269.7018 | And so (laughing) | 2270.5084 |
2676 | | 2270.9561 | I went from Langston Lane | 2272.3363 |
2678 | | 2273.0626 | to /RD-SCHOOL-5/ where all the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ folks were, | 2275.1609 |
2680 | | 2275.5992 | and | 2276.5970 |
2682 | | 2277.9446 | yeah. Like I was there for a day. | 2279.7993 |
2684 | | 2280.2516 | Like one day. | 2280.9231 |
2686 | | 2281.4313 | And then the next week, I started at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2283.4597 |
2688 | | 2283.9213 | Um, | 2284.2524 |
2690 | | 2284.3864 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ I didn't know | 2285.4076 |
2692 | | 2285.5009 | anybody. | 2286.1071 |
2694 | | 2286.2796 | I knew a few- | 2286.8531 |
2696 | | 2286.9883 | well, | 2287.1982 |
2698 | | 2287.3940 | that's a lie. | 2287.8230 |
2700 | | 2288.1074 | I knew a few folks from junior high school. | 2290.1824 |
2702 | | 2290.4937 | So like, s- a few folks from /RD-SCHOOL-1/. | 2291.9159 |
2704 | | 2292.1490 | I heard that Lavender Girl went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ as well. | 2295.1426 |
2706 | | 2295.5296 | But | 2295.7441 |
2708 | | 2296.7035 | by then, | 2297.3470 |
2710 | | 2297.6687 | you know, | 2298.1024 |
2712 | | 2298.2050 | she was no longer Lavender Girl. | 2299.7297 |
2714 | | 2299.8696 | I would never see her in that lavender dress again. I don't know, | 2302.4704 |
2716 | | 2303.0812 | um, | 2303.3657 |
2718 | | 2303.5895 | cause that- that was how I recognized her. | 2305.4919 |
2720 | | 2306.1261 | Um, | 2306.8302 |
2722 | | 2307.8374 | <ts> | 2307.8980 |
2724 | | 2308.0425 | but | 2308.2804 |
2726 | | 2308.5916 | my friend /RD-NAME-1/ | 2309.3470 |
2728 | | 2309.5289 | uh, went to junior high school. I mean, went- | 2311.3894 |
2730 | | 2311.5432 | that I went to junior high school with | 2312.6623 |
2732 | | 2312.9234 | also went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2313.8654 |
2734 | | 2314.3864 | And | 2315.3097 |
2736 | | 2316.4661 | I met some of my lifelong friends at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2319.1613 |
2738 | | 2319.5250 | Um, | 2320.1078 |
2740 | | 2320.5357 | <ts> | 2320.6336 |
2742 | | 2321.1092 | my boy /RD-NAME-1/, | 2321.9905 |
2744 | | 2322.2096 | my boy /RD-NAME-2/, | 2323.0070 |
2746 | | 2323.5292 | they both went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ too, | 2324.8115 |
2748 | | 2324.9794 | but they were a year ahead of me. | 2325.9913 |
2750 | | 2327.0439 | In chemistry class- | 2328.0651 |
2752 | | 2328.6293 | <ts> | 2328.6853 |
2754 | | 2329.1376 | oh! | 2329.3427 |
2756 | | 2329.4593 | <claps> | 2329.5619 |
2758 | | 2330.0515 | Over the summer | 2330.8908 |
2760 | | 2331.0307 | before | 2331.6415 |
2762 | | 2331.7907 | going to high school, | 2332.7201 |
2764 | | 2333.2771 | I picked up Wu Tang Clan's, uh, Killer Bees mix tape, right? | 2337.2125 |
2766 | | 2337.6555 | <ts> | 2337.7453 |
2768 | | 2337.8887 | So it was like, | 2338.4389 |
2770 | | 2338.7548 | I'm bumping Killer Bees. | 2340.0744 |
2772 | | 2340.3728 | I'm like, | 2340.7738 |
2774 | | 2341.5153 | yeah. Like, | 2342.1121 |
2776 | | 2342.2846 | this my shit. | 2342.9607 |
2778 | | 2343.2872 | You know, boom boom boom. | 2344.1451 |
2780 | | 2344.4564 | I walk into chemistry class, right? | 2345.8273 |
2782 | | 2346.3262 | <ts> | 2346.3775 |
2784 | | 2346.4754 | And, uh, | 2347.1236 |
2786 | | 2347.5759 | I sit down. | 2348.5691 |
2788 | | 2348.6530 | I had this one song- Ghost Face Killer, | 2350.4902 |
2790 | | 2350.8574 | um, he had adlibs on this one song where he's like, | 2353.5153 |
2792 | | 2353.8370 | Nah nah (singing), | 2354.5504 |
2794 | | 2356.3911 | nah nah. (singing) | 2357.1605 |
2796 | | 2357.4729 | Right? | 2357.7154 |
2798 | | 2358.1024 | So | 2358.4987 |
2800 | | 2358.6713 | I had that adlib stuck in my head. I'm sitting in the back of chemistry class, and I go, | 2362.6674 |
2802 | | 2362.9227 | <ts> | 2363.0393 |
2804 | | 2363.6035 | Nah nah. (singing) | 2364.2796 |
2806 | | 2364.8858 | And | 2365.2028 |
2808 | | 2366.1867 | from just that | 2367.1473 |
2810 | | 2367.2732 | the dude next to me is like, | 2368.2291 |
2812 | | 2368.7502 | youngin! | 2369.1092 |
2814 | | 2369.5335 | Oh my gosh! | 2370.2703 |
2816 | | 2370.7086 | Was that- | 2371.0303 |
2818 | | 2371.7577 | was that- | 2372.0142 |
2820 | | 2372.2940 | you know the Wu! | 2373.1240 |
2822 | | 2373.4457 | I was like, | 2373.8280 |
2824 | | 2374.3491 | what? | 2374.6196 |
2826 | | 2375.2491 | Yeah, that was- that was | 2376.3495 |
2828 | | 2376.5034 | Wu Tang Clan | 2377.2954 |
2830 | | 2377.4173 | off of Killer Bees. He was like, youngin, you know Killer Bees! | 2379.8793 |
2832 | | 2380.9926 | Youngin, you know Killer Bees! | 2382.0744 |
2834 | | 2382.2796 | Youngin, who are you? <laugh> | 2383.3101 |
2836 | | 2383.5619 | <laugh> And | 2384.2333 |
2838 | | 2384.4245 | so | 2384.8209 |
2840 | | 2385.0307 | that's /RD-NAME-1/. | 2385.7027 |
2842 | | 2386.1265 | Um, | 2386.8341 |
2844 | | 2387.2724 | /RD-NAME-1/ | 2387.9392 |
2846 | | 2388.0651 | is- | 2388.8205 |
2848 | | 2390.9141 | /RD-NAME-1/ is underground hip-hop | 2392.7688 |
2850 | | 2393.1045 | purist personified. | 2394.8251 |
2852 | | 2395.2681 | Like- | 2395.8696 |
2854 | | 2396.2520 | or he was at that time. | 2397.7386 |
2856 | | 2398.1964 | Um, | 2398.9320 |
2858 | | 2399.5895 | I would say now, | 2400.6946 |
2860 | | 2401.0490 | he is what | 2402.0235 |
2862 | | 2402.1261 | a hip-hop purist who has matured | 2404.2897 |
2864 | | 2404.4762 | sounds like and looks like. | 2405.9065 |
2866 | | 2406.4661 | Um, | 2407.0629 |
2868 | | 2407.8044 | /RD-NAME-1/- /RD-NAME-1/ is- | 2408.8115 |
2870 | | 2409.2172 | /RD-NAME-1/ became one of my best friends, | 2411.3144 |
2872 | | 2411.6874 | um, | 2412.4008 |
2874 | | 2412.7226 | and he's one of my ride or dies. Like, | 2415.0074 |
2876 | | 2415.3151 | I could hit /RD-NAME-1/ up right now, even though we haven't talked in a couple of months, and be like, yo, | 2418.8345 |
2878 | | 2419.0629 | I'm coming over. | 2419.5945 |
2880 | | 2419.8650 | He be like, yeah, alright. | 2420.9421 |
2882 | | 2421.2778 | I'll get the ramen right, | 2422.3083 |
2884 | | 2422.4191 | and I'll | 2422.7315 |
2886 | | 2422.8574 | put on some kung-fu flicks. Like, that'll- that's- that's us. | 2425.7577 |
2888 | | 2426.2427 | Um, | 2427.0074 |
2890 | | 2427.7395 | and then | 2428.2559 |
2892 | | 2428.9507 | in front of /RD-NAME-1/, | 2430.2283 |
2894 | | 2430.6526 | uh, was | 2431.5992 |
2896 | | 2431.7391 | /RD-NAME-2/. | 2432.2427 |
2898 | | 2432.6623 | And /RD-NAME-2/ was kind of the womanizer, | 2435.0206 |
2900 | | 2435.4496 | though he's really | 2436.6666 |
2902 | | 2436.8485 | a incredible dork. This- | 2438.7369 |
2904 | | 2439.0260 | like, so I'm pretty dorky. | 2440.4715 |
2906 | | 2440.6802 | I l- I own my dorkdom. Like, I'm a Nintendo, | 2443.8183 |
2908 | | 2444.2800 | kung-fu movie | 2446.0489 |
2910 | | 2446.5077 | <ts> | 2446.7222 |
2912 | | 2447.0299 | and poetry dork, right? | 2448.9837 |
2914 | | 2449.4593 | Uh, /RD-NAME-2/ is a- | 2451.3944 |
2916 | | 2451.5669 | well I was a raver dork too. | 2453.2071 |
2918 | | 2453.4822 | /RD-NAME-2/ is a | 2454.5081 |
2920 | | 2454.9417 | EDM raver | 2456.5924 |
2922 | | 2457.0447 | um, | 2458.0286 |
2924 | | 2459.0579 | <ts> | 2459.1465 |
2926 | | 2459.2677 | like, uh, | 2460.0698 |
2928 | | 2460.4241 | action figure- | 2461.0396 |
2930 | | 2461.3427 | both of them collect action figures. | 2462.9747 |
2932 | | 2463.0820 | And I believe still to this day, | 2464.6860 |
2934 | | 2464.8947 | do so. | 2465.3144 |
2936 | | 2465.8180 | Um, | 2466.5267 |
2938 | | 2466.9790 | that's like- | 2467.4640 |
2940 | | 2467.6225 | that- | 2467.8183 |
2942 | | 2467.9769 | that beca- they became my crew, | 2469.7768 |
2944 | | 2470.2011 | uh, in- in high school at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2472.7039 |
2946 | | 2473.2075 | Um, | 2473.7717 |
2948 | | 2473.9349 | I joined the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ choir. | 2475.1286 |
2950 | | 2475.8036 | And, uh, | 2476.7222 |
2952 | | 2476.8527 | that would then be my last choir. | 2478.4568 |
2954 | | 2479.0303 | Um, | 2479.6645 |
2956 | | 2480.4432 | <ts> | 2480.5224 |
2958 | | 2481.2172 | we sang at Christmas in Washington | 2483.2957 |
2960 | | 2483.9019 | <ts> | 2484.0045 |
2962 | | 2484.1677 | and that was really cool | 2485.5805 |
2964 | | 2485.9582 | cause we'd sung with Christina Aguilera and, | 2489.0113 |
2966 | | 2489.4216 | uh, | 2490.1444 |
2968 | | 2490.2889 | Kenny Loggins and a bunch of folk. | 2492.8582 |
2970 | | 2493.4830 | And that was cool. | 2494.1964 |
2972 | | 2494.5357 | Um, | 2494.9134 |
2974 | | 2495.0626 | I left the choir | 2496.1490 |
2976 | | 2497.7437 | at the end of that school year, and I retired my- uh, <laugh> | 2500.6907 |
2978 | | 2501.1278 | my choir robe cause I figured nobody else could, | 2503.3567 |
2980 | | 2503.7950 | uh, fit it, | 2504.3173 |
2982 | | 2504.5084 | so I was like, I'm'a take this jont with me. | 2506.2057 |
2984 | | 2506.6009 | And | 2506.9786 |
2986 | | 2507.4636 | number twenty-six | 2508.4335 |
2988 | | 2508.6060 | choir robe from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ still sits in my closet today. | 2511.7301 |
2990 | | 2512.3689 | Um, | 2512.9973 |
2992 | | 2513.9065 | <ts> | 2513.9812 |
2994 | | 2514.0604 | I left /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 2515.2541 |
2996 | | 2515.5339 | because | 2516.5597 |
2998 | | 2517.1659 | I dig into hooking school a lot, | 2519.9532 |
3000 | | 2520.4521 | um, and not going. | 2521.4826 |
3002 | | 2522.5924 | Um, and whenever there was a bomb threat, | 2524.2337 |
3004 | | 2524.4984 | ha, | 2524.8994 |
3006 | | 2525.2537 | bomb threats were an event | 2526.3822 |
3008 | | 2526.6340 | at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. There were bomb threat- there was a bomb threat like once a week | 2529.6509 |
3010 | | 2529.8467 | at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 2530.3829 |
3012 | | 2530.8481 | Don't know why, | 2531.5895 |
3014 | | 2531.9858 | people just didn't wanna go to class, they would call a bomb threat. | 2534.2380 |
3016 | | 2534.6110 | Whatever. | 2534.9747 |
3018 | | 2535.4037 | Right? | 2535.6415 |
3020 | | 2536.3305 | <ts> | 2536.4657 |
3022 | | 2536.8014 | So | 2537.2677 |
3024 | | 2538.6480 | /but/ we would | 2539.5805 |
3026 | | 2539.7064 | all be taken out to the football court, | 2542.6802 |
3027 | | 2542.6802 | \ad | 2543.0905 |
3028 | | 2543.0905 | and so here are the bleachers. The bleachers are, | 2545.5199 |
3030 | | 2545.8650 | <ts> | 2545.9536 |
3032 | | 2546.1681 | uh, sitting | 2547.3151 |
3034 | | 2547.7721 | up against where the school, | 2549.4916 |
3036 | | 2549.6221 | uh, would be. So like, it's the wall up against the school. | 2552.2660 |
3038 | | 2552.7509 | And then | 2553.4131 |
3040 | | 2553.8047 | there's the court | 2554.8527 |
3042 | | 2555.2817 | that you can run across, | 2556.3915 |
3044 | | 2556.6806 | and then there's more bleachers, | 2557.9955 |
3046 | | 2558.1634 | and there's a fence. | 2559.0866 |
3048 | | 2559.5856 | And then there's freedom. | 2560.8994 |
3050 | | 2561.5195 | And so | 2562.0651 |
3052 | | 2562.1723 | the bomb threat would happen. | 2563.4267 |
3054 | | 2564.0002 | Everybody would be sitting there patiently waiting, | 2566.2057 |
3056 | | 2566.5590 | um, on the bleachers. | 2567.7340 |
3058 | | 2567.8692 | And then that one brave soul would start | 2569.9023 |
3060 | | 2570.1028 | running across the field. | 2571.1241 |
3062 | | 2571.6089 | And then everybody else would go too. | 2573.4889 |
3064 | | 2573.8879 | And then the goal was get across the fence and outrun the police before | 2577.7395 |
3066 | | 2577.9994 | like, | 2578.3258 |
3068 | | 2578.6709 | you got | 2579.0206 |
3070 | | 2579.3657 | caught. | 2579.6314 |
3072 | | 2580.2376 | Um, | 2580.8531 |
3074 | | 2582.3452 | I remember one day, | 2583.4643 |
3076 | | 2584.0647 | I was the brave soul that | 2585.4636 |
3078 | | 2585.7713 | darted out there. | 2586.6200 |
3080 | | 2587.0443 | Um, | 2587.4779 |
3082 | | 2587.6551 | I got across the gate, | 2588.7043 |
3084 | | 2589.4737 | and I ran down the street, | 2590.8667 |
3086 | | 2592.0464 | uh, cut through a alley, got away from the cops, | 2594.2473 |
3088 | | 2594.8861 | and it happened to be free ice cone day- | 2597.0206 |
3090 | | 2597.3470 | I mean ice cream day at Ben and Jerry's, | 2599.0956 |
3092 | | 2599.4360 | so I went to Ben and Jerry's and got ice cream. | 2601.2825 |
3094 | | 2602.9740 | Delinquent, hood | 2603.7620 |
3096 | | 2603.9019 | /RD-NAME-2/ stories. | 2604.9231 |
3098 | | 2606.2147 | Boom. | 2606.5224 |
3100 | | 2606.9981 | Um, so there was- there was that. | 2609.1139 |
3102 | | 2609.2957 | Um, | 2610.0511 |
3104 | | 2611.2774 | it was a bittersweet moment when I left | 2613.1846 |
3106 | | 2613.3245 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ though because I was finally starting to connect with folks. | 2616.4474 |
3108 | | 2616.8951 | Um, so that was interesting. | 2618.5691 |
3110 | | 2618.9514 | Like, leaving the school. | 2620.3037 |
3112 | | 2620.6662 | Um, we had to write- | 2621.8553 |
3114 | | 2622.6806 | oh! | 2622.9604 |
3116 | | 2623.2681 | My teacher, uh, | 2624.5131 |
3118 | | 2624.7229 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 2625.4923 |
3120 | | 2625.7115 | my English teacher, | 2626.6441 |
3122 | | 2627.0952 | um, | 2627.8086 |
3124 | | 2628.2936 | she | 2629.0443 |
3126 | | 2629.4453 | had us | 2630.2893 |
3128 | | 2631.3431 | write | 2632.1451 |
3130 | | 2632.4051 | a paper | 2633.5195 |
3132 | | 2633.7014 | on | 2634.4614 |
3134 | | 2635.8650 | what we will be doing over the summer | 2637.9633 |
3136 | | 2638.6009 | or, uh, | 2639.0066 |
3138 | | 2639.5009 | things you wanna leave this class with. | 2641.3381 |
3140 | | 2641.6971 | And I remember writing that- um, | 2643.6462 |
3142 | | 2644.4331 | that | 2644.8341 |
3144 | | 2646.3029 | I was sad to leave that class because I was just starting to get | 2649.8374 |
3146 | | 2650.1824 | to know folks and that I knew that I wouldn't be coming back to that school in the fall. | 2653.8099 |
3148 | | 2654.4245 | Um, | 2654.9328 |
3150 | | 2655.0727 | and so, | 2655.5483 |
3152 | | 2656.2232 | it was a real like, touching sort of moment where some of my classmates were | 2659.0629 |
3154 | | 2659.2355 | really starting to be like, oh, | 2660.3919 |
3156 | | 2660.5224 | like, dang, like, little /RD-NAME-2/, like, | 2662.4249 |
3158 | | 2662.5123 | you started to mess with us, and | 2663.7573 |
3160 | | 2664.1583 | we started messing with him. | 2665.0070 |
3162 | | 2665.5945 | Um, I had a zero period | 2667.1706 |
3164 | | 2667.5052 | class | 2668.0146 |
3166 | | 2668.2372 | that would start at seven forty-five, | 2670.0931 |
3168 | | 2670.5174 | but that meant that I left school at half a day, | 2672.7043 |
3170 | | 2673.3338 | so | 2673.9586 |
3172 | | 2674.9320 | being a tenth grader with a half a day schedule was kind of cool. | 2677.3800 |
3174 | | 2678.0655 | Uh, | 2678.4805 |
3176 | | 2679.4166 | and I was in greenhouse and garden club. | 2681.1605 |
3178 | | 2682.0091 | And I learned how to plant | 2683.3381 |
3180 | | 2683.5479 | stuff and | 2684.3592 |
3182 | | 2684.5038 | plant trees and | 2685.5891 |
3184 | | 2686.6895 | I did that with /RD-NAME-1/. | 2687.6408 |
3186 | | 2687.8040 | That was cool. | 2688.3728 |
3188 | | 2688.8531 | <ts> | 2688.9697 |
3190 | | 2689.2868 | Um, | 2689.6598 |
3192 | | 2689.8836 | /RD-NAME-1/ came out, | 2690.5737 |
3194 | | 2690.7509 | uh, to me, that was gay | 2692.4855 |
3196 | | 2692.7455 | in tenth grade. | 2693.6548 |
3198 | | 2694.3076 | And I was able to help support him | 2696.0608 |
3200 | | 2696.4199 | with | 2696.6577 |
3202 | | 2696.9701 | a myriad of things that he would come across, um, | 2699.8319 |
3204 | | 2700.3868 | come | 2700.6340 |
3206 | | 2700.8205 | in the future. | 2701.4593 |
3208 | | 2701.8976 | Uh, | 2702.2893 |
3210 | | 2702.4711 | so yeah. | 2702.8722 |
3212 | | 2703.4597 | That was- that was cool. | 2704.3258 |
3214 | | 2705.0066 | Um, | 2705.3610 |
3216 | | 2706.3076 | eleventh grade- | 2707.0163 |
3218 | | 2707.4593 | and I'll | 2708.0328 |
3220 | | 2708.3452 | put eleventh and twelfth grade together cause | 2710.3596 |
3222 | | 2710.5963 | it's all pretty fast. | 2711.5568 |
3224 | | 2712.0651 | Um, | 2712.6246 |
3226 | | 2713.3054 | I was at /RD-SCHOOL-7/, | 2715.0307 |
3228 | | 2715.1659 | also known as /RD-SCHOOL-6/, | 2716.3969 |
3230 | | 2716.8947 | um, | 2717.2771 |
3232 | | 2718.0511 | for eleventh grade, | 2718.9883 |
3234 | | 2719.4686 | and | 2720.0142 |
3236 | | 2720.4338 | it was decent. Like that was the first time I've | 2722.5963 |
3238 | | 2723.0579 | felt- I really felt- | 2724.0464 |
3240 | | 2724.2982 | I really felt like I | 2725.2868 |
3242 | | 2725.7577 | fit in | 2726.2193 |
3244 | | 2727.6928 | in a school straight up, | 2729.1185 |
3246 | | 2729.3796 | like off the break. | 2730.2533 |
3248 | | 2730.5500 | Just like, oh, | 2731.1982 |
3250 | | 2731.7111 | this is | 2732.0888 |
3252 | | 2732.3732 | all gifted and talented! | 2734.0612 |
3254 | | 2734.4611 | <laugh> Like, the whole damn school. | 2736.6904 |
3256 | | 2737.1003 | Um, (laughing) | 2738.0981 |
3258 | | 2739.1193 | and so, I didn't feel like anybody was being left behind, | 2742.1209 |
3260 | | 2742.5547 | um, within | 2743.6971 |
3262 | | 2744.0049 | the school. | 2744.6763 |
3264 | | 2745.2312 | Now whether that was like, | 2746.8108 |
3266 | | 2747.2304 | you know, like, oh, all the- | 2748.9371 |
3268 | | 2749.0956 | all of these kids are now leaving | 2750.9701 |
3270 | | 2751.5156 | everybody else in the DCPS, | 2753.2771 |
3272 | | 2753.8086 | that's a whole nother conversation. | 2755.4267 |
3274 | | 2755.9722 | Um, | 2756.2893 |
3276 | | 2756.3872 | but | 2756.5970 |
3278 | | 2756.9001 | being at /RD-SCHOOL-6/ was the right thing for me. | 2759.2817 |
3280 | | 2759.7807 | Um, | 2760.3915 |
3282 | | 2762.0142 | and I guess, | 2762.7929 |
3284 | | 2763.3431 | at that time, it- | 2764.1591 |
3286 | | 2764.3491 | yeah, | 2764.5963 |
3288 | | 2764.8434 | fuck it, | 2765.1651 |
3290 | | 2765.3237 | it was important that I be out of | 2767.0443 |
3292 | | 2767.2635 | my environment | 2768.0155 |
3294 | | 2768.2007 | that I was in. | 2768.7929 |
3296 | | 2769.4877 | Um, | 2770.2057 |
3298 | | 2771.5009 | <ts> | 2771.6268 |
3300 | | 2771.7620 | still was kind of ostracized <laugh> cause | 2774.5597 |
3302 | | 2774.8908 | I'm the little one. | 2775.8327 |
3304 | | 2776.2932 | Um, like I'm fi- | 2777.5662 |
3306 | | 2777.8739 | for those who don't | 2778.7365 |
3308 | | 2778.9091 | know and haven't seen me, | 2780.3219 |
3310 | | 2780.6343 | I'm five three. | 2781.6462 |
3312 | | 2782.0286 | Um, I'm actually five two point five but I claim five three as mine. | 2785.9489 |
3314 | | 2786.4711 | Um, | 2787.1379 |
3316 | | 2787.3384 | for anyone who listens to this in the future. | 2789.3983 |
3318 | | 2790.1117 | Um (laughing), | 2791.0676 |
3320 | | 2792.1541 | <ts> | 2792.2567 |
3322 | | 2792.3546 | and yeah. | 2793.0493 |
3324 | | 2793.3618 | Uh, | 2793.7616 |
3326 | | 2793.8875 | that- | 2794.0507 |
3328 | | 2794.2978 | it all happened real fast. | 2795.8086 |
3330 | | 2796.0744 | Um, | 2796.6853 |
3332 | | 2797.3241 | <ts> | 2797.3987 |
3334 | | 2799.3431 | who was my- | 2801.5522 |
3336 | | 2802.3915 | <claps> | 2802.5500 |
3338 | | 2802.7692 | how could I ever forget? | 2803.8417 |
3340 | | 2805.3151 | It was | 2806.1684 |
3342 | | 2806.3911 | Miss | 2807.3563 |
3344 | | 2807.9159 | /RD-NAME-2/- | 2808.5687 |
3346 | | 2808.8298 | /RD-NAME-1/- Miss /RD-NAME-2/. | 2809.9069 |
3348 | | 2810.2147 | Um, | 2811.0214 |
3350 | | 2811.5996 | Miss /RD-NAME-4/. | 2812.9693 |
3352 | | 2813.7853 | She had a humanities course | 2815.4733 |
3354 | | 2815.6831 | that changed my life. | 2817.1240 |
3356 | | 2817.6928 | Um, | 2818.5695 |
3358 | | 2818.8061 | she taught humanities | 2820.2376 |
3360 | | 2820.6480 | and our course- | 2821.4779 |
3362 | | 2821.5852 | uh, our- | 2822.4059 |
3364 | | 2822.6297 | our course | 2823.2359 |
3366 | | 2823.3757 | book | 2823.6788 |
3368 | | 2823.9213 | <ts> | 2823.9773 |
3370 | | 2824.1545 | was actually Takaki's A Different Mirror, | 2826.5221 |
3372 | | 2827.1515 | and so her whole class, | 2828.7102 |
3374 | | 2829.0633 | instead of taking English that year, we took humanities. And her whole course was built around | 2833.2541 |
3376 | | 2833.3520 | building compassion | 2834.3313 |
3378 | | 2834.6530 | for other cultures, | 2835.8793 |
3380 | | 2836.1673 | uh, through | 2837.2910 |
3382 | | 2837.6874 | learning. | 2838.1723 |
3384 | | 2838.6200 | And so we read Takaki's A Different Mirror, | 2840.6763 |
3386 | | 2841.1006 | and then | 2841.7814 |
3388 | | 2842.2559 | after every chapter, | 2843.4496 |
3390 | | 2843.7993 | we would have a project. So, we would read a poem and then have to, | 2847.0027 |
3392 | | 2847.4317 | uh, look at it | 2848.1405 |
3394 | | 2848.2839 | from all the different like, cultural, | 2850.3215 |
3396 | | 2850.5127 | uh, | 2851.0303 |
3398 | | 2851.7437 | viewpoints. | 2852.4152 |
3400 | | 2852.7696 | Um, we watched | 2854.1078 |
3402 | | 2854.6103 | Soylent Green, | 2855.7107 |
3404 | | 2855.9672 | um, and we had to relate that | 2858.5364 |
3406 | | 2858.7183 | to the beliefs of Native American culture | 2861.5009 |
3408 | | 2861.8739 | or indigenous people's culture, | 2863.4173 |
3410 | | 2863.8556 | um, | 2864.6810 |
3412 | | 2865.3851 | and how | 2866.1078 |
3414 | | 2866.2291 | if we | 2866.9227 |
3416 | | 2867.3284 | completely wipe out | 2868.3635 |
3418 | | 2868.4521 | all of | 2869.2728 |
3420 | | 2869.4033 | Earth's res- resources and don't live by the land, | 2872.0612 |
3422 | | 2872.4529 | then we end up having to eat each other in cracker form. | 2875.2961 |
3424 | | 2875.8556 | Um, | 2876.6017 |
3426 | | 2877.3105 | yeah. Have you- | 2877.6882 |
3428 | | 2877.8409 | Soylent Green is a really good one. | 2879.2444 |
3430 | | 2879.4776 | Like, I would- I would definitely see that one. | 2881.1982 |
3432 | | 2881.7531 | Um, | 2882.3732 |
3434 | | 2883.0773 | <ts> | 2883.1286 |
3436 | | 2883.2498 | it was a bunch of stuff. It was really, | 2884.5776 |
3438 | | 2884.6802 | really good. | 2885.1558 |
3440 | | 2885.5941 | Um, | 2886.1071 |
3442 | | 2886.5267 | and that's another teacher that had that heart to heart with me. | 2888.8488 |
3444 | | 2889.3058 | Um, | 2889.9493 |
3446 | | 2891.0439 | it wasn't that I didn't do the work in her class. She just recognized that like, | 2894.9934 |
3448 | | 2895.5716 | there was more to me. | 2896.4948 |
3450 | | 2896.9180 | And she pulled me over and was like, /RD-NAME-2/, | 2898.5034 |
3452 | | 2898.7365 | there'll be a time | 2899.4919 |
3454 | | 2899.7997 | when everyone thinks you're crazy, | 2901.1053 |
3456 | | 2901.5949 | and | 2902.1265 |
3458 | | 2903.3237 | in this world, | 2904.3775 |
3460 | | 2905.3147 | if you | 2905.7297 |
3462 | | 2906.0422 | don't | 2906.2567 |
3464 | | 2906.3732 | think that | 2907.4410 |
3466 | | 2907.5996 | things- | 2908.2244 |
3468 | | 2909.4449 | How did she put it? | 2910.2143 |
3470 | | 2911.0723 | Sh- she let me know folks would think that I'm- | 2912.9747 |
3472 | | 2913.1146 | that I'm crazy, | 2913.8374 |
3474 | | 2914.4004 | but | 2914.8387 |
3476 | | 2915.2817 | you have to be crazy to survive in this world | 2917.5106 |
3478 | | 2917.6598 | and not think that things are going crazy. | 2919.6182 |
3480 | | 2920.6196 | And it's like- | 2921.3890 |
3482 | | 2921.6408 | like she- | 2922.1350 |
3484 | | 2922.8018 | she really saw | 2923.8137 |
3486 | | 2924.4330 | my struggle | 2925.6415 |
3488 | | 2925.8420 | to like, | 2926.4762 |
3490 | | 2927.0066 | not- | 2927.3284 |
3492 | | 2927.6035 | my struggle in being comfortable with me not fitting in. | 2930.2147 |
3494 | | 2930.6996 | <ts> | 2930.7882 |
3496 | | 2930.8488 | Um, | 2931.4643 |
3498 | | 2931.9726 | yeah. | 2932.3503 |
3500 | | 2932.9180 | And by that time, there was a new goth crowd and | 2936.0841 |
3502 | | 2936.2660 | like, some of the underclassmen, | 2937.5092 |
3504 | | 2937.9633 | um, were more extreme than I was. | 2940.2982 |
3506 | | 2940.4335 | And so that was | 2941.0769 |
3508 | | 2942.2520 | kind of welcoming. | 2942.9887 |
3510 | | 2943.4923 | Um, | 2944.1265 |
3512 | | 2945.1651 | <ts> | 2945.2351 |
3514 | | 2945.3284 | yeah. | 2945.6687 |
3516 | | 2946.1630 | Yeah. | 2946.4894 |
3518 | | 2947.1982 | Yeah. | 2947.4033 |
3520 | | 2948.1634 | Um, | 2948.7696 |
3522 | | 2949.2079 | high school prom, | 2950.5508 |
3524 | | 2952.1210 | graduated. Oh man, I missed like, | 2953.8743 |
3526 | | 2954.2380 | twenty days of | 2955.4737 |
3528 | | 2955.5856 | school in senior year | 2956.9367 |
3530 | | 2957.0159 | cause that's when I got into shoplifting. | 2958.3868 |
3532 | | 2958.9231 | And, | 2959.6365 |
3534 | | 2960.2054 | uh, I stole my whole prom outfit, | 2961.9400 |
3536 | | 2962.3864 | like- | 2962.6289 |
3538 | | 2963.5801 | <ts> | 2963.7294 |
3540 | | 2964.3355 | I didn't- | 2965.0629 |
3542 | | 2966.6530 | anytime- something I noticed, | 2968.0565 |
3544 | | 2968.3398 | anytime I was shoplifting, | 2969.5708 |
3546 | | 2969.7154 | I would get away with stuff that I actually needed. | 2971.4826 |
3548 | | 2971.7391 | So if I was stealing clothes, | 2973.1426 |
3550 | | 2973.4457 | stealing food, | 2974.3316 |
3552 | | 2975.0812 | that would be- those would be things that I would get away with. | 2977.2821 |
3554 | | 2977.7111 | Um, the one time I tried to steal a game, I got caught, | 2980.3130 |
3556 | | 2980.7828 | <ts> | 2980.8667 |
3558 | | 2980.9880 | and I n- hadn't s- haven't shoplifted aga- | 2983.5339 |
3560 | | 2983.7297 | s- ever since. | 2984.4805 |
3562 | | 2985.0633 | Um, | 2985.8094 |
3564 | | 2986.1125 | so yeah. | 2986.6802 |
3565 | DCB_int_01 | 2987.2164 | Why did you turn to shoplifting? | 2988.4428 |
3566 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2989.6085 | Money. | 2989.9302 |
3568 | | 2990.3359 | Um, my mother was struggling with money. | 2992.4482 |
3570 | | 2992.7408 | Um, | 2993.3563 |
3572 | | 2993.5848 | she hadn't always worked at the /RD-WORK-7/. | 2996.6530 |
3574 | | 2996.8115 | Um, | 2997.2498 |
3576 | | 2997.9400 | and then, | 2998.5461 |
3578 | | 2998.8434 | after she got the job, | 3000.0138 |
3580 | | 3000.5500 | like, | 3001.0163 |
3582 | | 3001.1329 | there were some cutbacks and furlough and all that stuff | 3004.0565 |
3584 | | 3004.2291 | at that time, | 3004.9134 |
3586 | | 3005.2864 | and so I wasn't able to get new clothes for school. | 3007.2728 |
3588 | | 3007.7997 | Um, | 3008.5084 |
3590 | | 3009.6695 | and then so some of it was just trying to keep up with the Joneses and this that and the third. | 3013.2075 |
3592 | | 3013.8790 | Um, | 3014.4292 |
3594 | | 3015.6882 | but yeah, | 3016.0892 |
3596 | | 3016.2885 | like | 3016.6942 |
3598 | | 3018.4661 | yeah. | 3018.8112 |
3600 | | 3019.2868 | That was also the same time that I found out about /RD-WORK-4/ | 3022.9040 |
3602 | | 3023.0159 | and became a peer educator, | 3024.4801 |
3604 | | 3024.5967 | and so I started making my own money. | 3026.3033 |
3606 | | 3026.7556 | Um, | 3027.3105 |
3608 | | 3027.5483 | and then spending that | 3028.4809 |
3610 | | 3029.3144 | on | 3029.7760 |
3612 | | 3029.9812 | I don't know. | 3030.5174 |
3614 | | 3030.6340 | I don't even remember now. | 3031.6691 |
3616 | | 3032.1867 | Um, (laughing) for real. | 3033.2032 |
3617 | DCB_int_01 | 3033.3711 | How'd you find out and why were you interested? | 3035.3004 |
3618 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3035.7760 | There was a young lady | 3036.6759 |
3620 | | 3036.9650 | <ts> | 3037.0163 |
3622 | | 3037.0583 | who I thought was flirting with me | 3038.4758 |
3624 | | 3038.7416 | um, | 3039.0820 |
3626 | | 3039.1939 | at my new school | 3040.0705 |
3628 | | 3040.2279 | in junior high- Uh, at uh, | 3041.5708 |
3630 | | 3041.7760 | /RD-SCHOOL-6/, | 3042.5547 |
3632 | | 3042.9837 | and | 3043.6365 |
3634 | | 3043.9582 | her name was /RD-NAME-4/. | 3045.0307 |
3636 | | 3045.4923 | <ts> | 3045.5809 |
3638 | | 3045.7208 | And I thought she was cute. | 3046.9273 |
3640 | | 3047.0626 | I thought she was flirting. | 3047.8879 |
3642 | | 3048.3215 | <ts> | 3048.3775 |
3644 | | 3048.5081 | She was like, yo, you should come with me to this spot called Freestyle. | 3050.8908 |
3646 | | 3051.3757 | So I went with her, | 3052.1311 |
3648 | | 3052.7408 | and lo and behold, she was doing outreach. | 3054.5081 |
3650 | | 3054.7412 | <laugh> | 3055.3847 |
3652 | | 3055.7344 | And it just like, got me in the door. | 3057.0540 |
3654 | | 3057.2918 | Um, | 3057.6835 |
3656 | | 3057.7896 | that same day they were doing interviews for peer educators | 3060.6759 |
3658 | | 3061.1376 | to use poetry, hip hop, and art | 3062.7556 |
3660 | | 3063.0913 | to promote HIV | 3064.2232 |
3662 | | 3064.3771 | uh, prevention. | 3065.0253 |
3664 | | 3065.5102 | <ts> | 3065.6268 |
3666 | | 3065.6921 | And I interviewed | 3067.1422 |
3668 | | 3067.3147 | and I got the gig. | 3068.6390 |
3670 | | 3069.2732 | And that's when I realized my | 3071.5195 |
3672 | | 3071.6501 | art | 3071.9065 |
3674 | | 3072.4008 | could benefit me | 3073.7997 |
3676 | | 3074.2193 | um, | 3074.8115 |
3678 | | 3075.0074 | and benefit my community. | 3076.3270 |
3680 | | 3076.8667 | Um, | 3077.4356 |
3682 | | 3078.3728 | and my- | 3079.0863 |
3684 | | 3079.7484 | Ah, | 3079.9442 |
3686 | | 3080.0888 | this is | 3080.2940 |
3688 | | 3080.4851 | perfect segue. | 3081.1379 |
3690 | | 3081.4177 | My- uh, | 3082.1405 |
3692 | | 3082.4191 | my growth | 3083.2164 |
3694 | | 3083.3423 | as a HIV advocate and ev- | 3085.2728 |
3696 | | 3085.3754 | educator | 3086.0142 |
3698 | | 3086.4059 | <ts> | 3086.4898 |
3700 | | 3086.6250 | is almost | 3087.2965 |
3702 | | 3087.4364 | directly parallel with my growth as a performing artist, and uh, | 3091.1003 |
3704 | | 3091.2401 | you know, | 3091.6132 |
3706 | | 3091.8929 | published | 3092.2893 |
3708 | | 3092.4758 | guy | 3092.9048 |
3710 | | 3093.0260 | and all that stuff. | 3093.6975 |
3712 | | 3094.1440 | Um, they go hand in hand. | 3095.6548 |
3714 | | 3096.3122 | And yeah. | 3098.3266 |
3716 | | 3098.8442 | Oh! | 3099.0447 |
3718 | | 3099.7814 | So | 3100.0401 |
3720 | | 3100.1906 | we go | 3100.5123 |
3722 | | 3100.6755 | all the way back to elementary school. | 3102.6992 |
3724 | | 3103.1469 | Um, fourth grade, | 3104.3033 |
3726 | | 3104.6996 | there was a group that came to my school and spoke about, | 3107.6641 |
3728 | | 3108.0977 | um, | 3108.6480 |
3730 | | 3108.8205 | good touch bad touch. | 3109.9489 |
3732 | | 3110.4012 | And at the end of their presentation, they mention | 3112.2384 |
3734 | | 3112.5123 | there's this thing | 3113.3097 |
3736 | | 3113.5289 | that's gonna be really affecting DC heavily, | 3115.8696 |
3738 | | 3116.2287 | um, | 3116.7602 |
3740 | | 3116.9141 | in about ten years, | 3118.0519 |
3742 | | 3118.4750 | and it's called HIV. | 3119.6687 |
3744 | | 3120.1397 | And | 3120.9510 |
3746 | | 3121.2681 | <ts> | 3121.3707 |
3748 | | 3121.4919 | we, uh, just wanna let y'all know, like, be safe around, | 3124.5321 |
3750 | | 3124.8994 | um, the good touch bad touch, that- | 3126.3169 |
3752 | | 3126.6526 | all that. | 3127.0303 |
3754 | | 3127.2401 | Alright? | 3127.4220 |
3756 | | 3127.9722 | Sixth grade, they came back | 3129.3991 |
3758 | | 3129.5296 | and gave the whole HIV one O one | 3131.7620 |
3760 | | 3131.9345 | scenario and like, | 3133.1469 |
3762 | | 3133.6878 | you know, | 3134.0422 |
3764 | | 3134.4199 | <ts> uh, the four fluids- | 3135.8572 |
3766 | | 3135.9633 | uh, what they recognized as the four fluids at the time. | 3138.5267 |
3768 | | 3138.9091 | Um, | 3139.7018 |
3770 | | 3140.5318 | sex, | 3141.2452 |
3772 | | 3141.4037 | all of that. | 3142.1859 |
3774 | | 3142.3771 | Um, | 3142.8201 |
3776 | | 3143.0113 | mind you, | 3143.4356 |
3778 | | 3143.7807 | I wasn't interested in it at all, | 3145.3707 |
3780 | | 3145.8650 | but | 3146.1121 |
3782 | | 3146.5924 | based on information that I gained in seventh grade, apparently some of my other classmates were- | 3151.5805 |
3784 | | 3152.1447 | um, | 3152.5084 |
3786 | | 3152.6157 | were interested in sex. Uh, | 3153.8793 |
3788 | | 3154.3631 | but I was interested in what this thing was that's gonna be like | 3157.7624 |
3790 | | 3158.1168 | wiping people out in ten years, | 3159.6742 |
3792 | | 3160.0425 | um, within my community. | 3161.1139 |
3794 | | 3161.6594 | Cause I was like, dang yo. Like, | 3163.0303 |
3796 | | 3163.5246 | my Uncle /RD-NAME-1/, | 3164.2706 |
3798 | | 3164.4059 | like, (laughing) | 3164.9887 |
3800 | | 3165.3478 | you know, | 3165.9586 |
3802 | | 3166.4144 | all- | 3166.6429 |
3804 | | 3166.7641 | all my friends. Like, | 3167.8319 |
3806 | | 3167.9625 | f- it's- it- | 3168.5820 |
3808 | | 3168.7925 | if it's really this thing, like it's gonna be a big deal. | 3170.7602 |
3810 | | 3171.9213 | And so, in junior h- I mean in high school, | 3173.8599 |
3812 | | 3175.1469 | excuse me, | 3175.5992 |
3814 | | 3176.0608 | uh, when I started hanging out at Freestyle, | 3178.0938 |
3816 | | 3178.3585 | uh, the youth center that was ran by /RD-WORK-4/, | 3180.7319 |
3818 | | 3181.3054 | um, | 3181.9442 |
3820 | | 3183.4690 | it all came full circle. | 3184.5757 |
3822 | | 3185.0346 | Was like, oh, | 3185.6874 |
3824 | | 3186.1071 | so | 3186.4614 |
3826 | | 3186.8531 | I can | 3187.5945 |
3828 | | 3188.1587 | get paid | 3188.9468 |
3830 | | 3189.7581 | to share my | 3190.7222 |
3832 | | 3190.8434 | art | 3191.2258 |
3834 | | 3191.7993 | and travel all over the place | 3193.4873 |
3836 | | 3194.1587 | and talk about this HIV thing that has bothered me | 3197.4589 |
3838 | | 3198.1444 | since I even heard of it | 3199.3707 |
3840 | | 3199.5246 | <laugh> like, | 3200.2473 |
3841 | DCB_int_01 | 3200.2380 | Mm. | 3200.4338 |
3842 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3200.4245 | in fourth grade. | 3201.2265 |
3843 | | 3201.6648 | And so that was kind of a- a ah ha moment for me. | 3204.6526 |
3845 | | 3205.0210 | Um, | 3205.7344 |
3847 | | 3207.2778 | yeah. | 3207.6182 |
3849 | | 3208.0414 | So I graduated, | 3209.0393 |
3851 | | 3209.9065 | stop shoplifting, | 3211.1049 |
3853 | | 3211.8743 | um, | 3212.3406 |
3855 | | 3212.4805 | oh, | 3212.6716 |
3857 | | 3213.3711 | the time that I got caught | 3214.5881 |
3859 | | 3215.3423 | and- | 3216.2936 |
3861 | | 3216.7599 | uh, | 3217.4313 |
3863 | | 3218.0328 | yeah. | 3218.2893 |
3865 | | 3218.6064 | The time that I got caught, I didn't have them call my mom. | 3220.5170 |
3867 | | 3220.6009 | I had them call my supervisor at /RD-WORK-3/, | 3222.4101 |
3869 | | 3223.2961 | and | 3224.0748 |
3871 | | 3224.4711 | she, | 3225.0214 |
3873 | | 3226.0834 | uh, | 3226.7222 |
3875 | | 3226.8014 | told our executive director, and they drove over. | 3229.2215 |
3877 | | 3229.5246 | It was our new ED's first day, | 3231.2498 |
3879 | | 3231.8222 | <ts> um, | 3232.5683 |
3881 | | 3232.6569 | and so he- | 3233.0299 |
3883 | | 3233.1791 | he pulls up and he's like, what am I getting myself into? | 3235.9245 |
3885 | | 3236.4851 | And, uh, | 3237.4597 |
3887 | | 3238.7828 | I was reading Othello, | 3239.8040 |
3889 | | 3240.5360 | <laugh> [and (laughing)], | 3241.3287 |
3890 | DCB_int_01 | 3240.8811 | [<laugh>] | 3241.3287 |
3891 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3241.8556 | he's like, | 3242.3592 |
3893 | | 3242.6856 | what | 3242.9328 |
3895 | | 3243.2079 | have I gotten myself into? | 3244.7921 |
3897 | | 3245.2864 | Um, | 3245.9998 |
3899 | | 3246.5967 | and he was asking me why was I shoplifting. I'm just like, I need money. | 3249.7026 |
3901 | | 3250.3081 | And | 3251.0868 |
3903 | | 3252.0800 | he said, well, | 3252.9986 |
3905 | | 3254.5315 | I'm gonna go out on a limb | 3255.8232 |
3907 | | 3256.3967 | and believe that you are not | 3258.1127 |
3909 | | 3258.2992 | this like | 3258.9053 |
3911 | | 3259.8974 | crazy shoplifting kid, | 3261.3196 |
3913 | | 3261.7299 | that | 3261.9537 |
3915 | | 3262.1263 | there is more to you, | 3263.2080 |
3917 | | 3263.6604 | and if | 3264.1500 |
3919 | | 3264.2805 | you are willing | 3265.1012 |
3921 | | 3265.4871 | to | 3266.0011 |
3923 | | 3266.8020 | take on the responsibility, I am willing to see what's up | 3270.0427 |
3925 | | 3270.2945 | when you graduate. | 3271.0173 |
3927 | | 3271.5302 | <ts> | 3271.6094 |
3929 | | 3271.6887 | So | 3272.0280 |
3931 | | 3272.0979 | I graduated | 3272.8673 |
3933 | | 3273.2077 | in O one, | 3273.8465 |
3935 | | 3274.7138 | and | 3275.5531 |
3937 | | 3275.9448 | I interviewed | 3276.7328 |
3939 | | 3276.9566 | couple months later, | 3277.8612 |
3941 | | 3278.0664 | and I got the job. | 3278.9559 |
3943 | | 3279.5807 | <ts> | 3279.6786 |
3945 | | 3280.1915 | And the rest is history. | 3281.5578 |
3947 | | 3282.1173 | Um, | 3282.7002 |
3949 | | 3283.3856 | I've been with- | 3284.5922 |
3951 | | 3285.5154 | well- | 3285.7719 |
3953 | | 3286.4620 | <ts> | 3286.5506 |
3955 | | 3286.6811 | well, | 3286.8630 |
3957 | | 3287.3852 | we're living the history. | 3288.3225 |
3959 | | 3288.7328 | Um, | 3289.0685 |
3961 | | 3289.3297 | I had been with /RD-WORK-4/ from two thousand one to two thousand four. | 3292.9590 |
3963 | | 3293.4319 | Um, that's when the | 3294.3644 |
3965 | | 3294.5370 | infamous Bush cuts came, | 3295.8659 |
3967 | | 3296.2518 | um, when everything went abstinence only, | 3298.5179 |
3969 | | 3299.0682 | and, | 3299.8049 |
3971 | | 3300.0287 | uh, I lost my job then because we didn't have funding. | 3302.3555 |
3973 | | 3302.7414 | <ts> | 3302.8113 |
3975 | | 3303.0072 | Um, | 3303.5714 |
3977 | | 3303.7252 | I then | 3304.2941 |
3979 | | 3304.4107 | went on tour dancing for awhile. | 3306.3365 |
3981 | | 3306.8867 | That's a whole nother story. | 3308.0524 |
3983 | | 3308.5045 | Um (laughing), | 3309.3765 |
3985 | | 3310.4012 | came back | 3311.3850 |
3987 | | 3311.5203 | to, | 3312.2278 |
3989 | | 3312.8399 | uh, DC | 3314.0895 |
3991 | | 3314.4206 | in two thousand five, | 3316.0001 |
3993 | | 3316.3125 | joined /RD-WORK-3/, | 3317.5015 |
3995 | | 3317.9993 | um, | 3318.7174 |
3997 | | 3319.2909 | and while I was with /RD-WORK-3/, | 3321.4125 |
3999 | | 3321.7576 | I did HIV prevention education and outreach, | 3324.6532 |
4001 | | 3325.1464 | um, | 3325.8831 |
4003 | | 3326.6105 | in partnership | 3327.3100 |
4005 | | 3327.4778 | with /RD-WORK-4/. | 3328.8301 |
4007 | | 3329.2824 | And then when I left | 3330.4656 |
4009 | | 3330.8899 | /RD-WORK-3/, | 3331.8225 |
4011 | | 3332.1209 | I joined /RD-WORK-6/ | 3333.9674 |
4013 | | 3334.4897 | um, doing water education, | 3336.0366 |
4015 | | 3336.2697 | uh, | 3336.5215 |
4017 | | 3336.6195 | aquatic education programs at Anacostia Park as a park ranger. | 3339.7436 |
4019 | | 3340.2472 | <ts> | 3340.3405 |
4021 | | 3340.4850 | And then | 3341.0585 |
4023 | | 3341.1565 | came back to /RD-WORK-4/ in O eight. | 3342.8433 |
4025 | | 3344.0650 | Now, | 3344.5219 |
4027 | | 3344.6338 | /RD-WORK-4/ doesn't exist. | 3346.0001 |
4029 | | 3346.1306 | Um, we are a part of- | 3348.1345 |
4031 | | 3348.4609 | our programs got | 3349.4914 |
4033 | | 3349.6173 | absorbed into /RD-WORK-5/, | 3351.8042 |
4035 | | 3352.4990 | um, | 3353.3523 |
4037 | | 3353.7848 | and I am | 3354.9925 |
4039 | | 3355.5147 | fighting to keep | 3356.3680 |
4041 | | 3356.5079 | our programs | 3357.6317 |
4043 | | 3358.1446 | ali- | 3359.3523 |
4045 | | 3359.4864 | well, | 3359.7475 |
4047 | | 3359.9667 | <ts> | 3360.0459 |
4049 | | 3360.2604 | I won't say alive | 3361.4028 |
4051 | | 3361.7619 | because our programs are still going to live. | 3364.8533 |
4053 | | 3365.1506 | Um, I'm trying to keep | 3366.2231 |
4055 | | 3366.8759 | our core base of youth, | 3368.7970 |
4057 | | 3369.4732 | um, and our core target | 3370.8487 |
4059 | | 3371.1285 | audience | 3371.8139 |
4061 | | 3372.2651 | invested | 3373.0811 |
4063 | | 3373.4495 | as things change. | 3374.7597 |
4065 | | 3375.3566 | That's the best way to put it. | 3376.1726 |
4066 | DCB_int_01 | 3378.3630 | Why do you- | 3378.8573 |
4068 | | 3380.6525 | why do you care? | 3381.6364 |
4070 | | 3381.8695 | Like, | 3382.3218 |
4072 | | 3383.9480 | because it's clearly | 3384.7500 |
4074 | | 3384.9972 | passion there. I mean, | 3385.9484 |
4076 | | 3386.7224 | no doubt about that. | 3387.8742 |
4078 | | 3389.7195 | [And not just] because of Uncle /RD-NAME-1/, right? | 3391.4541 |
4079 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3389.7213 | [So-] | 3390.1392 |
4080 | | 3391.8038 | Yeah, I mean like, you know, Uncle /RD-NAME-1/, he alright. | 3394.1679 |
4082 | | 3394.3078 | He be alright. | 3394.9047 |
4084 | | 3395.0632 | Like, | 3395.4537 |
4086 | | 3395.8687 | /you know/ as far as I know of he doesn't have HIV, | 3397.8924 |
4088 | | 3397.9950 | but he be- he be alright. | 3398.8950 |
4090 | | 3399.1701 | Um, | 3399.8602 |
4092 | | 3400.1120 | <laugh> he funny. | 3401.1331 |
4094 | | 3402.1392 | Why do I care? | 3402.8200 |
4096 | | 3403.3329 | Cause somebody got to. | 3404.6152 |
4098 | | 3405.0162 | Like, somebody has to. | 3406.8627 |
4100 | | 3407.4537 | And | 3408.3397 |
4102 | | 3409.7992 | I was- | 3410.2655 |
4104 | | 3410.9836 | I told this to my folks at /RD-WORK-5/ | 3413.8547 |
4106 | | 3413.9760 | when, um, | 3414.7640 |
4108 | | 3414.9505 | I was going for a promotion. | 3416.1489 |
4110 | | 3416.7597 | Um, | 3417.3612 |
4112 | | 3418.2565 | I was committed to /RD-WORK-4/ | 3420.2931 |
4114 | | 3420.5868 | because /RD-WORK-4/ was committed to me. | 3422.4986 |
4116 | | 3422.9369 | Um, | 3423.5711 |
4118 | | 3424.1912 | they reached out | 3425.0026 |
4120 | | 3425.1460 | and said, look, | 3425.9340 |
4122 | | 3426.3257 | you don't have to go to jail. <laugh> | 3428.7038 |
4124 | | 3429.2074 | Like, | 3429.5944 |
4126 | | 3429.7529 | this can be | 3430.6669 |
4128 | | 3430.7928 | a way for you. | 3431.7720 |
4130 | | 3432.1951 | Um, | 3433.0205 |
4132 | | 3433.3422 | <ts> | 3433.4355 |
4134 | | 3433.6826 | and | 3434.4986 |
4136 | | 3434.7411 | I've been doing that | 3435.8975 |
4138 | | 3436.0980 | ever since with the youth that I work with. | 3438.7174 |
4140 | | 3439.2350 | Um, | 3439.9297 |
4142 | | 3440.4520 | like, | 3440.9742 |
4144 | | 3442.0374 | I took my first flight | 3443.2171 |
4146 | | 3443.5796 | outside- | 3444.0040 |
4148 | | 3444.1345 | I took my first flight period | 3445.5707 |
4150 | | 3445.8272 | with /RD-WORK-2/- uh, with /RD-WORK-4/ um, when we flew to Denver, | 3448.8907 |
4152 | | 3449.4875 | um, | 3450.2511 |
4154 | | 3450.4190 | for a conference. | 3451.4261 |
4156 | | 3451.9157 | I took | 3452.3774 |
4158 | | 3452.4846 | a young man | 3453.4312 |
4160 | | 3453.5991 | on his first flight ever. | 3455.1005 |
4162 | | 3455.5610 | Um, I flew him- | 3456.8946 |
4164 | | 3457.1091 | I flew with him out to | 3458.7970 |
4166 | | 3460.3731 | San Francisco for a conference where he spoke | 3462.8479 |
4168 | | 3462.9645 | and knocked the audience | 3464.5173 |
4170 | | 3464.8157 | alive, you know? | 3466.1120 |
4172 | | 3466.6016 | Um, | 3467.5388 |
4174 | | 3468.6428 | and so | 3469.0718 |
4176 | | 3469.1977 | those type of parallels are what I really live for. | 3471.6224 |
4178 | | 3472.1679 | Um, | 3472.6715 |
4180 | | 3473.1798 | maybe it's something that was in me- instilled in me from like, church, and | 3478.2472 |
4182 | | 3478.7834 | having that sense of like, oh, | 3480.3304 |
4184 | | 3480.4609 | good deeds are what you should do. | 3482.1009 |
4186 | | 3482.6711 | Um, | 3483.2167 |
4188 | | 3483.4498 | maybe it's the fact that I've received so many services | 3486.5169 |
4190 | | 3486.9692 | over time. | 3487.8551 |
4192 | | 3488.3401 | Um, | 3489.1468 |
4194 | | 3491.0912 | maybe | 3491.7067 |
4196 | | 3491.8454 | it was | 3492.7593 |
4198 | | 3493.0018 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/ stopping and talking to me about, | 3495.6224 |
4200 | | 3495.7809 | you know, | 3496.1633 |
4202 | | 3496.8907 | l- | 3496.9828 |
4204 | | 3497.1460 | having this- | 3498.0739 |
4206 | | 3498.2604 | having school be a means to an end so I can be free. | 3500.9556 |
4208 | | 3501.5338 | Um, maybe it was | 3503.4409 |
4210 | | 3503.8454 | Miss /RD-NAME-1/- | 3504.5868 |
4212 | | 3504.7920 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/'s class, | 3506.0650 |
4214 | | 3506.2608 | you know, having compassion for all people, | 3508.1726 |
4216 | | 3508.8440 | um, | 3509.5155 |
4218 | | 3509.7522 | but | 3510.0413 |
4220 | | 3510.9086 | there's- | 3511.1184 |
4222 | | 3511.5474 | there's al- I feel like there's always been something that's drawn me | 3515.1052 |
4224 | | 3515.5983 | to | 3516.3164 |
4226 | | 3517.0997 | helping others. | 3518.3401 |
4228 | | 3518.7737 | Even though | 3519.5618 |
4230 | | 3519.8975 | I personally | 3520.9560 |
4232 | | 3521.3698 | don't like being around a lot of people (laughing), | 3523.7525 |
4234 | | 3524.2748 | I don't want to see anybody hurt | 3526.7415 |
4236 | | 3527.8081 | cause I've seen hurt, | 3529.4261 |
4238 | | 3529.9810 | and I know how hurt feels. | 3532.0094 |
4240 | | 3534.9832 | Yeah. | 3535.5101 |
4242 | | 3536.0836 | <laugh> Like, | 3536.9323 |
4244 | | 3539.2404 | there's so much hurt, and I d- wanna- I just wanna be | 3541.9344 |
4246 | | 3542.7457 | part of | 3543.8928 |
4248 | | 3544.8814 | the not hurt. | 3545.7813 |
4250 | | 3546.1159 | <laugh> Whatever the opposite of not hurt. | 3549.1468 |
4252 | | 3549.3426 | <laugh> Or whatever the opposite of hurt is, | 3551.5295 |
4254 | | 3551.8734 | um, the part of the healing, | 3553.2414 |
4256 | | 3554.1069 | and- and if you're not in a process of healing, | 3556.4057 |
4258 | | 3556.5456 | part of your well being, | 3557.8454 |
4260 | | 3557.9433 | your ongoing well being. | 3559.0811 |
4262 | | 3560.3960 | So, | 3560.6385 |
4263 | DCB_int_01 | 3561.8089 | [So], | 3562.2052 |
4264 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3561.9674 | [yeah.] | 3562.2006 |
4265 | DCB_int_01 | 3562.3311 | talk about being a performer. | 3564.0786 |
4267 | | 3564.3817 | Or- or | 3564.8153 |
4269 | | 3564.9179 | art. | 3565.2443 |
4271 | | 3565.5334 | Because even you were just, what? | 3566.7924 |
4273 | | 3567.0115 | Crocheting? | 3567.5902 |
4274 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3567.6970 | Mm-hm. | 3567.9534 |
4276 | | 3568.1166 | Speaking of, I'm like, is it still in my lap? | 3569.7673 |
4278 | | 3569.8687 | Did I- | 3570.1578 |
4280 | | 3570.3257 | Okay. | 3570.5775 |
4281 | DCB_int_01 | 3570.6521 | [Um], | 3571.3282 |
4282 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3570.6941 | [/Okay (whispering)./] | 3570.9599 |
4283 | DCB_int_01 | 3571.8318 | like, | 3572.0277 |
4285 | | 3572.8623 | that's just | 3573.2913 |
4287 | | 3573.4592 | unique to me. | 3574.1633 |
4289 | | 3574.2752 | I [mean] | 3574.6062 |
4290 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3574.3731 | [Hm.] | 3574.5876 |
4291 | DCB_int_01 | 3574.9175 | a lot of people crochet, but I mean | 3576.3583 |
4293 | | 3577.0531 | how did you get into crocheting, | 3578.5219 |
4294 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3578.8157 | [Oh] [gosh.] | 3579.9861 |
4295 | DCB_int_01 | 3578.8250 | [art] | 3579.1841 |
4297 | | 3579.3986 | [/or/] | 3579.6084 |
4298 | | 3580.0514 | [poetry], dancing, I mean | 3581.6729 |
4299 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3580.1446 | [This story.] | 3580.6715 |
4300 | DCB_int_01 | 3582.6335 | you are a Renaissance man right here. | 3584.2655 |
4301 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3584.4007 | Uh, | 3584.9323 |
4303 | | 3585.4219 | thank you. | 3585.8275 |
4305 | | 3586.6529 | Um, | 3587.2542 |
4307 | | 3587.4444 | <ts> | 3587.5144 |
4309 | | 3587.7055 | where did it start? | 3588.4050 |
4311 | | 3588.8992 | Um, | 3589.3795 |
4313 | | 3589.7759 | so | 3590.1582 |
4315 | | 3590.2981 | the earliest would be dance. | 3591.8462 |
4317 | | 3592.1819 | Um, | 3592.8767 |
4319 | | 3593.6682 | <laugh> | 3594.0553 |
4321 | | 3595.3749 | I was the kid in the ballet class (laughing) | 3598.4244 |
4323 | | 3598.7042 | I was the boy in the ballet class | 3601.0578 |
4325 | | 3601.5987 | in elementary school, | 3603.2853 |
4327 | | 3603.7996 | and like, they made these | 3605.1938 |
4329 | | 3605.5656 | super glittery shirts. | 3607.8598 |
4331 | | 3608.2981 | And all the girls were wearing tutus, and they were trying to get us to wear tights. | 3612.1438 |
4333 | | 3612.6195 | And I was just like, | 3613.3236 |
4335 | | 3614.0137 | nah. | 3614.6758 |
4337 | | 3614.7504 | Like- (laughing) | 3615.5804 |
4339 | | 3616.1726 | like no. | 3616.7368 |
4341 | | 3617.0119 | Um, | 3617.4875 |
4343 | | 3617.6263 | but | 3617.8501 |
4345 | | 3618.0972 | I'd al- I've- I love motion. | 3619.8085 |
4347 | | 3620.2095 | Um, | 3620.8110 |
4349 | | 3621.5011 | I love- | 3622.3311 |
4351 | | 3623.3418 | like I love dance | 3624.5542 |
4353 | | 3624.6661 | because I personally feel | 3625.5847 |
4355 | | 3625.7712 | that's the most intimate | 3627.0675 |
4357 | | 3627.1934 | you can be physically with somebody | 3629.0399 |
4359 | | 3629.7568 | that's not like, sexual. | 3631.5381 |
4361 | | 3631.9950 | It can be- | 3632.6432 |
4363 | | 3633.6783 | it can be sexual, | 3635.2497 |
4365 | | 3635.3791 | but it's not sex. | 3636.5682 |
4366 | DCB_int_01 | 3636.7314 | [Mm.] | 3637.0792 |
4367 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3636.9412 | [Um], | 3637.5427 |
4368 | | 3637.8505 | and so | 3638.3261 |
4370 | | 3638.7271 | I've always felt that connection with motion, | 3640.5549 |
4372 | | 3640.8953 | um, and you can convey a lot of things with motion that | 3643.3515 |
4374 | | 3643.5660 | sometimes you can't convey with words. | 3645.1794 |
4376 | | 3645.5058 | Um, and body language is | 3646.8394 |
4378 | | 3647.4491 | a major | 3648.0926 |
4380 | | 3648.3024 | you know- | 3648.6847 |
4382 | | 3650.6571 | words. | 3651.2027 |
4384 | | 3652.6855 | Ha. | 3653.0912 |
4386 | | 3653.4444 | Um, | 3653.9340 |
4388 | | 3654.0972 | body lang- cause | 3654.8713 |
4390 | | 3654.9925 | you can't see ha on there. | 3656.6059 |
4392 | | 3657.0162 | Um (laughing), | 3657.6503 |
4394 | | 3658.0327 | body language | 3658.8720 |
4396 | | 3659.0073 | is | 3659.9852 |
4398 | | 3660.5309 | one of the major ways that people communicate. | 3663.4778 |
4400 | | 3664.0141 | And so | 3664.7321 |
4402 | | 3667.4308 | dance | 3667.9437 |
4404 | | 3668.3074 | is an extension of that. | 3669.4219 |
4406 | | 3669.9161 | Um, and I've always loved to dance. I've always loved to move. Michael Jackson was one of my | 3674.1629 |
4408 | | 3674.4613 | heroes. | 3675.4778 |
4410 | | 3675.7576 | Like I had a freaking- | 3676.9509 |
4412 | | 3677.2451 | I had the- the | 3678.1159 |
4414 | | 3678.2604 | Thriller jacket and the Bad jacket. | 3680.0183 |
4416 | | 3680.1396 | Like they're- | 3680.6571 |
4418 | | 3680.8064 | they're two different jackets, | 3681.9161 |
4420 | | 3682.1773 | and folks like to pretend like they're the same. | 3683.8158 |
4422 | | 3684.1625 | No. | 3684.3444 |
4424 | | 3684.7454 | They're two | 3685.3282 |
4426 | | 3685.7199 | very different jackets. Uh, one is more black. | 3688.0141 |
4428 | | 3688.1400 | One is more red. | 3688.9326 |
4430 | | 3689.1798 | And I had both | 3689.8408 |
4432 | | 3690.1299 | as a kid, | 3690.8340 |
4434 | | 3691.0484 | and I- | 3691.4261 |
4436 | | 3691.6733 | I looked up to him a lot. | 3692.8856 |
4438 | | 3693.3706 | Um, | 3693.9348 |
4440 | | 3695.5377 | and | 3696.0086 |
4442 | | 3696.3164 | still to this day, | 3697.2723 |
4444 | | 3697.5520 | when I think of people | 3699.0255 |
4446 | | 3699.3333 | who I consider musical geniuses, | 3701.4036 |
4448 | | 3701.7615 | um, | 3702.3304 |
4450 | | 3704.2328 | if you have worked with | 3705.6737 |
4452 | | 3706.2845 | Michael Jackson | 3707.1133 |
4454 | | 3707.2299 | or Bjork, | 3707.9527 |
4456 | | 3708.4609 | um, | 3708.9692 |
4458 | | 3709.2536 | you may automatically get a pass | 3711.0721 |
4460 | | 3711.1934 | into my musical | 3712.3451 |
4462 | | 3712.6156 | genius /patheon/. | 3713.5761 |
4464 | | 3714.1718 | <ts> | 3714.2511 |
4466 | | 3714.3164 | Um, | 3714.8852 |
4468 | | 3715.6360 | but Michael Jackson like, epitomized dance, | 3717.8369 |
4470 | | 3718.2752 | and | 3718.9280 |
4472 | | 3719.3803 | I- like I've been tryna pop lock and moon walk and break dance and all that, | 3723.4219 |
4474 | | 3723.8275 | um, from that | 3724.6249 |
4476 | | 3725.1658 | very young age. | 3726.2651 |
4478 | | 3726.6754 | Um, | 3727.2956 |
4480 | | 3728.2142 | <ts> | 3728.3074 |
4482 | | 3728.4613 | another thing that spawned from | 3730.3311 |
4484 | | 3730.4430 | my /RD-WORK-4/ connection | 3731.7626 |
4486 | | 3732.1112 | was becoming a break dancer. | 3733.4961 |
4488 | | 3734.0463 | Um, | 3734.7178 |
4490 | | 3735.3239 | <ts> | 3735.3799 |
4492 | | 3735.4918 | at the time, | 3736.1726 |
4494 | | 3736.6669 | /RD-WORK-4/ and the Freestyle youth center | 3738.9179 |
4496 | | 3739.2210 | was geared around using hip hop, | 3740.9229 |
4498 | | 3741.3706 | uh, | 3741.7809 |
4500 | | 3741.8975 | to spread HIV | 3743.1611 |
4502 | | 3743.3197 | information. | 3743.9863 |
4504 | | 3744.6148 | And so | 3745.4681 |
4506 | | 3746.2468 | they would have like, a small seminar and then a break dancing workshop | 3749.7020 |
4508 | | 3750.0692 | or a small seminar and then a capoeira workshop, | 3752.4986 |
4510 | | 3752.8157 | which worked | 3753.3379 |
4512 | | 3753.6690 | well for- | 3754.4244 |
4514 | | 3754.5783 | for both, um, | 3755.6869 |
4516 | | 3755.8314 | my self defense and, | 3757.3469 |
4518 | | 3757.7199 | uh, my break dancing. | 3758.8064 |
4520 | | 3759.1188 | So | 3759.5431 |
4522 | | 3759.9628 | I- | 3760.0933 |
4524 | | 3760.4244 | I started studying | 3761.5890 |
4526 | | 3761.7382 | both of those styles, | 3763.0391 |
4528 | | 3763.2676 | and | 3763.9064 |
4530 | | 3764.1116 | I picked it up. | 3764.6758 |
4532 | | 3765.3146 | <ts> And, | 3765.9721 |
4534 | | 3766.4057 | um, | 3766.8674 |
4536 | | 3767.0807 | my big break in dance | 3768.5355 |
4538 | | 3768.6801 | was, | 3769.4122 |
4540 | | 3769.8225 | uh, | 3770.2282 |
4542 | | 3770.3168 | there was open mic. | 3771.3379 |
4544 | | 3772.4757 | This is like, | 3773.0539 |
4546 | | 3773.3989 | two thousand | 3774.7081 |
4548 | | 3774.8293 | s- | 3775.2956 |
4550 | | 3775.3888 | five, two thousand six. | 3777.0395 |
4552 | | 3777.6877 | Um, | 3778.6622 |
4554 | | 3780.1858 | no. | 3780.5262 |
4556 | | 3780.7920 | Two thousand four, two thousand five. | 3783.3892 |
4558 | | 3783.7809 | Um, | 3784.5643 |
4560 | | 3785.7102 | there was a place | 3786.9272 |
4562 | | 3787.3702 | called Urban Energy. | 3788.5173 |
4564 | | 3788.9183 | Started in two thousand three, | 3790.1493 |
4566 | | 3790.7263 | fall of two thousand three, | 3791.9374 |
4568 | | 3792.4563 | and then, um, | 3793.5660 |
4570 | | 3794.6478 | they closed | 3795.2727 |
4572 | | 3795.5524 | in like, | 3796.1773 |
4574 | | 3796.7088 | two thousand- | 3797.1328 |
4576 | | 3797.2392 | the end of two thousand five. | 3798.7827 |
4578 | | 3799.4355 | Um, | 3800.2235 |
4580 | | 3802.7042 | they would have reiki and acupuncture and all k- | 3806.4613 |
4582 | | 3806.7038 | like, healing workshops, | 3808.0980 |
4584 | | 3808.5270 | and then, have worksho- like, uh, open mics and stuff like that. | 3811.8178 |
4586 | | 3812.2188 | Um, | 3812.8157 |
4588 | | 3813.4079 | and then massage courses and | 3814.7228 |
4590 | | 3814.8767 | all kinds of stuff. | 3815.5656 |
4592 | | 3816.0319 | So | 3816.5309 |
4594 | | 3817.3515 | I would | 3818.1909 |
4596 | | 3818.3494 | go to the open mic, | 3819.3846 |
4598 | | 3819.7949 | and there open mic ran from six PM | 3821.9852 |
4600 | | 3822.3117 | to six AM, | 3823.6266 |
4602 | | 3824.2002 | from s- that Saturday into that Sunday. | 3826.6296 |
4604 | | 3827.2544 | And so, | 3827.8792 |
4606 | | 3828.2604 | um, let me know if we're taking- if I'm taking up too much time, too. | 3830.7877 |
4608 | | 3831.2074 | Um, | 3831.8462 |
4609 | DCB_int_01 | 3831.9394 | This is great. | 3832.4664 |
4610 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 3832.7788 | okay. | 3833.0539 |
4612 | | 3834.0553 | Uh, we would do | 3835.0391 |
4614 | | 3835.1370 | the spoken word, | 3836.1349 |
4616 | | 3836.5313 | and then | 3837.3100 |
4618 | | 3837.9581 | like all go grab something to eat together | 3840.1019 |
4620 | | 3840.2604 | and then we would come back | 3841.1184 |
4622 | | 3841.2863 | and do some more spoken word. | 3842.5732 |
4624 | | 3842.8950 | Then we would put on The Matrix | 3844.1446 |
4626 | | 3844.4384 | and then like, wake up | 3845.5610 |
4628 | | 3845.7801 | and (laughing) talk about The Matrix or something like that. | 3847.8971 |
4630 | | 3848.1582 | Like that's- that was that type of environment. | 3849.9954 |
4632 | | 3850.4943 | And | 3850.9839 |
4634 | | 3851.6682 | I would break dance | 3852.6941 |
4636 | | 3852.8573 | on carpet | 3853.5754 |
4638 | | 3853.8038 | at that space, | 3854.8670 |
4640 | | 3855.2540 | um, | 3855.9628 |
4642 | | 3856.0980 | depending on what was going on. | 3857.3150 |
4644 | | 3858.5542 | So | 3859.2723 |
4646 | | 3859.4401 | they invited KRS One to come and do a | 3861.7250 |
4648 | | 3861.9348 | metaphysics lecture, | 3863.0119 |
4650 | | 3863.5563 | um, and he came. | 3864.6614 |
4652 | | 3864.9132 | And to intro him, | 3866.3028 |
4654 | | 3866.7178 | they had folks representing | 3868.1633 |
4656 | | 3868.2658 | the four core elements and then the- uh, | 3870.3956 |
4658 | | 3870.8200 | the four auxiliary elements of hip hop. | 3872.6432 |
4660 | | 3873.1048 | And I was the one representing break dancing, | 3875.1168 |
4662 | | 3875.4491 | and KRS One liked what he saw, | 3876.9226 |
4664 | | 3877.2723 | <ts> | 3877.3562 |
4666 | | 3877.5147 | and brought me on | 3878.9509 |
4668 | | 3879.2820 | to go on t- | 3880.2239 |
4670 | | 3880.4897 | so | 3880.8021 |
4672 | | 3881.5843 | <ts> | 3881.6636 |
4674 | | 3881.8128 | how- | 3882.1718 |
4676 | | 3882.3817 | oh, to go on tour. | 3883.3142 |
4678 | | 3883.5987 | So, | 3884.0183 |
4680 | | 3884.3261 | how serendipitous this was, | 3885.8555 |
4682 | | 3886.1819 | um, | 3886.7508 |
4684 | | 3887.5668 | that | 3888.1765 |
4686 | | 3889.3935 | there was a- uh, what was it? | 3891.1747 |
4688 | | 3891.7762 | I got | 3892.0887 |
4690 | | 3892.4384 | an- | 3892.7228 |
4692 | | 3893.0434 | a phone call | 3893.9852 |
4694 | | 3894.1578 | on Saturday | 3895.2163 |
4696 | | 3896.0743 | asking me | 3897.0209 |
4698 | | 3897.4871 | did I wanna go on the tour? | 3898.7555 |
4700 | | 3899.0632 | I said, yes, | 3899.7848 |
4702 | | 3899.9713 | but I have a job, | 3900.9878 |
4704 | | 3901.2070 | and I can't like, just up and leave. Right? | 3903.4032 |
4706 | | 3903.8462 | <ts> | 3903.9255 |
4708 | | 3904.0793 | That | 3904.5223 |
4710 | | 3904.6156 | Monday, | 3905.3978 |
4712 | | 3905.5283 | I got word that | 3906.7267 |
4714 | | 3907.1464 | the organization would have to let me go because of money issues. | 3910.4151 |
4716 | | 3910.7170 | That Wednesday I was on a train headed to LA. | 3912.8200 |
4718 | | 3913.8645 | It's like | 3914.1163 |
4720 | | 3914.3028 | everything happened | 3915.2027 |
4722 | | 3915.7529 | for a reason. | 3916.4057 |
4724 | | 3916.8814 | Um, | 3917.5575 |
4726 | | 3918.4889 | and that in its- | 3919.6033 |
4728 | | 3919.7292 | that train ride on its own was a different experience because that was supposed to only take | 3924.7547 |
4730 | | 3925.2536 | three days, | 3926.0743 |
4732 | | 3926.4380 | <ts> | 3926.5079 |
4734 | | 3926.6758 | uh, but it ended up taking | 3928.4524 |
4736 | | 3928.8056 | five days. | 3930.1532 |
4738 | | 3930.4563 | And so I missed my first gig in LA | 3933.3333 |
4740 | | 3933.6364 | and missed the tour bus, | 3934.8161 |
4742 | | 3935.1693 | and so I had to | 3935.8594 |
4744 | | 3936.0179 | rely on some friends who I knew | 3937.7152 |
4746 | | 3937.8784 | in LA | 3938.4427 |
4748 | | 3938.6665 | who I hadn't talked to in two years, | 3940.6995 |
4750 | | 3941.0994 | um, | 3941.9154 |
4752 | | 3942.1065 | who I met at a conference through /RD-WORK-4/. | 3945.2074 |
4754 | | 3945.7296 | It all c- | 3946.3544 |
4756 | | 3946.4990 | it's- | 3946.6715 |
4758 | | 3946.9000 | all works together. It all comes full circle. | 3949.2676 |
4760 | | 3949.6966 | Um, | 3950.2655 |
4762 | | 3950.6059 | I hadn't talked to them | 3951.7203 |
4764 | | 3952.0094 | in awhile. | 3952.6948 |
4766 | | 3952.8814 | They worked for a non profit | 3954.3910 |
4768 | | 3954.6428 | doing HIV prevention for the Asian American Pacific Islander community in LA. | 3958.5549 |
4770 | | 3959.1938 | They came and picked me up, | 3960.0646 |
4772 | | 3960.2604 | and then drove me from LA to Lake Tahoe, | 3963.0442 |
4774 | | 3963.4778 | um, overnight. | 3964.2519 |
4776 | | 3965.0259 | So | 3965.4886 |
4778 | | 3965.8734 | yeah. | 3966.0739 |
4780 | | 3966.4702 | From then, | 3966.9086 |
4782 | | 3967.1650 | got on tour, | 3967.8971 |
4784 | | 3968.2981 | and I'm break dancing. | 3969.4732 |
4786 | | 3969.5664 | Um, | 3970.2705 |
4788 | | 3971.0061 | we did Reno, Lake Tahoe, | 3973.2909 |
4790 | | 3973.6546 | Santa | 3974.6152 |
4792 | | 3974.7084 | Clara, | 3975.5524 |
4794 | | 3976.2006 | um, San Francisco, | 3978.4376 |
4796 | | 3979.2583 | Sacramento, | 3980.5825 |
4798 | | 3981.1980 | <ts> | 3981.3239 |
4800 | | 3982.5503 | few other gigs mixed in there. | 3984.3817 |
4802 | | 3984.8573 | Um, | 3985.2676 |
4804 | | 3985.4261 | but I | 3985.5754 |
4806 | | 3985.7059 | ended up | 3986.2188 |
4808 | | 3986.5313 | having to come back home, | 3988.0187 |
4810 | | 3988.5969 | um, | 3989.0912 |
4812 | | 3989.8408 | and I left after the Vegas show | 3991.5520 |
4814 | | 3992.0603 | because my mom had a cancer scare. | 3994.4524 |
4816 | | 3995.0399 | And so | 3995.5295 |
4818 | | 3995.6263 | left after the- | 3996.2185 |
4820 | | 3996.3257 | after the Vegas show | 3997.3142 |
4822 | | 3997.7992 | and headed back to DC, | 3998.8250 |
4824 | | 3998.9882 | took a bus from Vegas back to DC. | 4001.0912 |
4826 | | 4003.3888 | So yeah. | 4003.7805 |
4828 | | 4004.6665 | Dance. | 4005.1234 |
4830 | | 4005.5198 | Um (laughing), I still dance every now and then. | 4007.2684 |
4832 | | 4007.5237 | Um, | 4008.1252 |
4834 | | 4008.3257 | I might be dancing in a- a friend of mine's music video that's coming up. | 4011.4079 |
4836 | | 4012.0653 | Um, but | 4012.7601 |
4838 | | 4013.1506 | I let the- | 4013.5983 |
4840 | | 4013.7662 | the younger | 4014.3723 |
4842 | | 4014.9785 | folks | 4015.4075 |
4844 | | 4015.5520 | get all the [break dance now. Like, I'm-] | 4017.2773 |
4845 | DCB_int_01 | 4015.9577 | [<laugh>] | 4017.2773 |
4846 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4017.8742 | my knees hurt. | 4018.5410 |
4848 | | 4018.9635 | Like (laughing)- | 4019.3669 |
4850 | | 4019.8005 | like I- I c- | 4020.3857 |
4852 | | 4020.4790 | I- I'll still crush a youngin. | 4021.9606 |
4854 | | 4022.1227 | I've only lost | 4022.8547 |
4856 | | 4023.1485 | two battles in my- | 4024.3142 |
4858 | | 4024.4401 | my whole | 4024.9484 |
4860 | | 4025.9882 | time. | 4026.4498 |
4862 | | 4026.7483 | But | 4026.9628 |
4864 | | 4027.4850 | yeah. | 4027.7694 |
4866 | | 4028.4922 | That's that. | 4028.8466 |
4868 | | 4029.1112 | That's dance. | 4029.8512 |
4870 | | 4030.7292 | Um, | 4031.4240 |
4872 | | 4031.8297 | crochet, | 4032.5804 |
4874 | | 4032.8229 | that's a fun story. I met a young lady | 4035.2651 |
4876 | | 4035.7127 | actually | 4036.7945 |
4878 | | 4036.9157 | through another young lady that I was trying to date, | 4039.5736 |
4880 | | 4040.2217 | um, | 4040.8699 |
4882 | | 4041.1905 | and | 4041.9272 |
4884 | | 4043.0556 | she | 4043.9696 |
4886 | | 4044.1514 | did latch hook. | 4044.9161 |
4888 | | 4045.7555 | And so she would do latch hook, and she would just- | 4047.8894 |
4890 | | 4048.3282 | she would go to Walmart, | 4049.0929 |
4892 | | 4049.2655 | buy a latch hook kit, | 4050.0675 |
4894 | | 4050.4125 | and just like | 4050.9021 |
4896 | | 4051.0327 | do her latch hook. | 4051.6296 |
4898 | | 4051.8767 | She'd be in the latch hook zone, | 4053.3024 |
4900 | | 4053.7687 | and I'm just sitting here like, | 4054.8272 |
4902 | | 4054.9904 | okay, | 4055.3867 |
4904 | | 4055.9323 | alright. | 4056.3799 |
4906 | | 4056.9954 | <ts> | 4057.1260 |
4908 | | 4057.2845 | Well, uh- | 4057.9838 |
4910 | | 4058.2859 | and | 4058.4537 |
4912 | | 4058.5610 | so the way that- | 4059.4050 |
4914 | | 4059.5775 | like I could be sitting here, I could be crocheting and we'll talk, | 4062.0022 |
4916 | | 4062.1234 | this that and the third. | 4062.8695 |
4918 | | 4063.5876 | Her latch hook, she's | 4064.8734 |
4920 | | 4065.2837 | not talking at all. She's just | 4066.8272 |
4922 | | 4067.0370 | doing her. | 4067.5499 |
4924 | | 4067.8763 | And I'm like, well why'd you call me over here then? Like, like, we not gonna talk? We not gonna chat? | 4071.6661 |
4926 | | 4072.3049 | Like, | 4072.4821 |
4928 | | 4072.8878 | nothing? | 4073.2375 |
4930 | | 4073.3960 | Okay. | 4073.7551 |
4932 | | 4073.9089 | Cool. | 4074.2260 |
4934 | | 4074.7296 | Latch hook away. | 4075.3731 |
4936 | | 4075.7974 | But | 4076.0201 |
4938 | | 4076.1600 | I figured | 4076.7493 |
4940 | | 4077.4376 | if- | 4077.6894 |
4942 | | 4077.7873 | if she gonna latch hook, | 4078.9111 |
4944 | | 4079.0323 | then I'm gonna need to pick up a craft. | 4080.6970 |
4946 | | 4080.9301 | So I wanted to pick up knitting, | 4082.0527 |
4948 | | 4082.5517 | but | 4082.8547 |
4950 | | 4083.0786 | they didn't have any knitting kits, like, any, uh, | 4085.5686 |
4952 | | 4086.0209 | like, 'my first knit' | 4086.9861 |
4954 | | 4087.1400 | sort of kit, | 4087.7461 |
4956 | | 4088.3232 | [um], | 4088.9480 |
4957 | DCB_int_01 | 4088.3290 | [<laugh.] | 4088.6974 |
4958 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4089.0599 | available, | 4089.6987 |
4960 | | 4090.0205 | but they had | 4090.8784 |
4962 | | 4091.2701 | the crochet joint. | 4092.2447 |
4964 | | 4092.4172 | Right? | 4092.7156 |
4966 | | 4093.2472 | And I was like, | 4093.8301 |
4968 | | 4094.1646 | bet | 4094.4258 |
4970 | | 4094.5517 | I'm about to go ahead and get this crochet kit. | 4096.6406 |
4972 | | 4096.9857 | This was two thousand four. | 4097.9089 |
4974 | | 4098.5011 | Um (laughing), | 4099.4151 |
4976 | | 4099.8674 | I was like I'm'a go ahead and get this crochet kit, | 4101.7733 |
4978 | | 4102.4308 | and it was- | 4103.3028 |
4980 | | 4103.5965 | it- the kit was called, uh, | 4105.1773 |
4982 | | 4105.2938 | 'I taught myself how to crochet' | 4106.7393 |
4984 | | 4107.1672 | <ts> | 4107.2558 |
4986 | | 4107.3210 | and it came with, um, | 4108.5520 |
4988 | | 4108.6593 | about | 4108.9904 |
4990 | | 4109.1069 | seven crochet hooks. | 4110.8555 |
4992 | | 4111.3871 | And | 4111.8720 |
4994 | | 4112.0108 | I sat there, and I practiced, | 4114.0764 |
4996 | | 4114.3749 | and when she would latch hook, I would crochet and | 4116.6877 |
4998 | | 4117.3824 | make it happen. | 4118.0352 |
5000 | | 4118.5470 | Um, | 4119.0972 |
5002 | | 4119.2324 | then the relationship turned sour, | 4120.9810 |
5004 | | 4121.3680 | um, | 4121.8204 |
5006 | | 4122.1234 | so she fell off but | 4123.2938 |
5008 | | 4123.4337 | the crochet stuck around. | 4124.3430 |
5009 | | 4126.7106 | The lesson I learned from that | 4127.9696 |
5011 | | 4128.1794 | is that you learn something from every relationship. | 4130.5062 |
5013 | | 4131.1672 | <laugh> | 4131.4609 |
5015 | | 4131.6614 | And, uh, I- I- | 4132.4308 |
5017 | | 4132.7432 | yeah. | 4133.1116 |
5019 | | 4134.1421 | The r- | 4134.3379 |
5021 | | 4134.4918 | the rest is history. | 4135.4570 |
5022 | DCB_int_01 | 4135.9187 | What about poetry? | 4136.9247 |
5023 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4137.7827 | Woo! Started writing poetry- | 4139.7504 |
5025 | | 4140.9814 | so we go even further back. | 4142.6980 |
5027 | | 4142.9387 | Um, before | 4144.4401 |
5029 | | 4145.7224 | n- before | 4147.1213 |
5031 | | 4148.0958 | elementary. | 4148.8326 |
5033 | | 4149.4982 | I remember having composition books | 4151.8716 |
5035 | | 4152.0768 | at like three, | 4153.2425 |
5037 | | 4153.7508 | and just scribbling in them. | 4155.4096 |
5039 | | 4156.3263 | You know, I just- writing all this nonsense. | 4158.6737 |
5041 | | 4159.5783 | And | 4160.4316 |
5043 | | 4161.2464 | I knew for me, | 4163.0323 |
5045 | | 4163.2235 | they were letters to my father. | 4164.7716 |
5047 | | 4165.6762 | And | 4166.5610 |
5049 | | 4167.3677 | I | 4167.5822 |
5051 | | 4167.7920 | t- | 4167.8713 |
5053 | | 4168.3562 | you know like, | 4169.0183 |
5055 | | 4169.2235 | you would look at 'em and see like scribble scrabble, but to me | 4171.7974 |
5057 | | 4172.1145 | I knew I was writing to my dad. | 4173.5355 |
5059 | | 4174.0391 | Cause I hadn't seen him, | 4175.2328 |
5061 | | 4175.4706 | and I was like, | 4175.9696 |
5063 | | 4176.1141 | why am I not seeing you? Like, | 4177.4104 |
5065 | | 4177.5503 | What's going on? | 4178.2870 |
5067 | | 4179.1438 | Um, | 4179.8200 |
5069 | | 4180.7479 | so I feel like I've wanted to write | 4182.5571 |
5071 | | 4182.8462 | all my life, | 4183.6062 |
5073 | | 4184.0119 | um, at least since that, | 4185.3350 |
5075 | | 4185.6708 | uh, early experience. | 4187.0043 |
5077 | | 4188.1654 | Um, | 4188.9768 |
5079 | | 4190.6869 | yeah. | 4191.0273 |
5081 | | 4191.6474 | Me and my dad | 4193.3960 |
5083 | | 4193.7597 | have had a on and off relationship, | 4195.3638 |
5085 | | 4195.5923 | and I'll get back to writing | 4196.5610 |
5087 | | 4196.6822 | after | 4197.0226 |
5089 | | 4197.4190 | this tangent. | 4197.9319 |
5091 | | 4198.4075 | <ts> | 4198.4588 |
5093 | | 4198.5054 | Um (laughing), | 4199.1442 |
5095 | | 4199.6898 | me and my dad had an on and off relationship. | 4201.6902 |
5097 | | 4201.9699 | He left | 4202.4024 |
5099 | | 4202.5796 | when I was three. | 4203.3583 |
5101 | | 4203.8200 | <ts> | 4203.8713 |
5103 | | 4203.9272 | Um, | 4204.4588 |
5105 | | 4204.7712 | he came back | 4205.5325 |
5107 | | 4205.6571 | when I was twelve. | 4206.6737 |
5109 | | 4207.2565 | Um, | 4207.8067 |
5111 | | 4208.0481 | I left him, | 4209.2931 |
5113 | | 4209.9272 | uh, sorta. | 4210.7432 |
5115 | | 4211.0603 | Like, | 4211.3820 |
5117 | | 4212.5198 | <sigh> | 4212.8835 |
5119 | | 4213.9140 | so | 4214.4549 |
5121 | | 4214.6729 | my mom | 4215.6661 |
5123 | | 4216.6080 | was talking to me- | 4217.9789 |
5125 | | 4218.1048 | like he was on the phone, | 4219.1679 |
5127 | | 4219.8254 | and | 4220.4875 |
5129 | | 4220.7848 | he had to cancel on picking me up to go to a movie or something like that. | 4224.0209 |
5131 | | 4224.8648 | And | 4225.3125 |
5133 | | 4225.4384 | I said to my mom | 4226.5144 |
5135 | | 4226.7195 | like, | 4226.9433 |
5137 | | 4227.4796 | <ts> | 4227.5961 |
5139 | | 4227.6987 | it's alright. I was just going for the money anyway, right? | 4229.9742 |
5141 | | 4230.5991 | And she repeated it to him, | 4231.9560 |
5143 | | 4232.6822 | and | 4233.5635 |
5145 | | 4233.7360 | he | 4234.4168 |
5147 | | 4234.8551 | was like, well damn. | 4235.6851 |
5149 | | 4236.1841 | And like, | 4236.7110 |
5151 | | 4236.7762 | I hadn't heard from him | 4237.7415 |
5153 | | 4237.9420 | like, after that. | 4238.7393 |
5155 | | 4239.2977 | And | 4239.8386 |
5157 | | 4240.7805 | I felt like | 4241.6805 |
5159 | | 4242.1980 | that was | 4242.5618 |
5161 | | 4242.9161 | betrayal from my mom, | 4244.2031 |
5163 | | 4244.4351 | but that was also on me too. Like, | 4246.2350 |
5165 | | 4246.3422 | I didn't really mean that. | 4247.6105 |
5167 | | 4248.2074 | Um, I was just frustrated cause he was canceling on me. | 4250.8547 |
5169 | | 4251.5495 | Um, | 4252.3375 |
5171 | | 4253.7411 | and | 4254.3659 |
5173 | | 4256.4269 | while | 4257.3397 |
5175 | | 4258.5567 | a younger me would have said, damn, Like, he overreacted. | 4261.7881 |
5177 | | 4262.1425 | Like, | 4262.3710 |
5179 | | 4262.8174 | it's not like blah blah blah blah, | 4264.2769 |
5181 | | 4264.6173 | but now, | 4265.4753 |
5183 | | 4266.1468 | as a father, | 4267.1414 |
5185 | | 4267.3265 | um, | 4267.6855 |
5187 | | 4267.8301 | who's not with his mom- | 4269.2464 |
5189 | | 4269.5122 | not with the mother of his child, | 4271.1163 |
5191 | | 4271.7737 | um, | 4272.3846 |
5193 | | 4272.7203 | if /RD-NAME-3/ | 4273.5829 |
5195 | | 4273.7834 | was to be like, | 4274.4397 |
5197 | | 4274.5656 | <ts> | 4274.6682 |
5199 | | 4274.7755 | I was just going for blah blah blah, I would be hurt too. | 4277.0183 |
5201 | | 4277.5079 | And so | 4278.1701 |
5203 | | 4278.5664 | I get that. | 4279.1773 |
5205 | | 4279.8347 | Um, | 4280.3476 |
5207 | | 4282.2117 | yeah. | 4282.5101 |
5209 | | 4283.0696 | Uh, he- | 4284.3519 |
5211 | | 4285.4384 | we ran into each other | 4286.5715 |
5213 | | 4287.0786 | when | 4287.7267 |
5215 | | 4288.1324 | I was sixteen. | 4289.2841 |
5217 | | 4289.7597 | I was on the train, | 4290.8975 |
5219 | | 4291.2239 | and I was with | 4291.8487 |
5221 | | 4292.1506 | /RD-NAME-1/ and a group of our friends, um, | 4294.4868 |
5223 | | 4295.1909 | the- the gay crowd, | 4296.3939 |
5225 | | 4296.7996 | as- uh, as, uh, | 4298.0399 |
5227 | | 4298.5330 | folks would like to say. | 4299.5355 |
5229 | | 4300.1464 | And | 4300.7432 |
5231 | | 4300.8365 | my dad (laughing), | 4301.6711 |
5233 | | 4302.6177 | he's looking at me, | 4303.6016 |
5235 | | 4303.9979 | and I realize it's him, and I'm like, oh shit. | 4305.8526 |
5237 | | 4306.0811 | That's my father. Right? | 4307.0603 |
5239 | | 4307.5592 | And so I go over, and I start talking to him. | 4309.0700 |
5241 | | 4309.4757 | He's like, if there's any- ever anything, you know, you need to tell me, like, you know, it's okay. | 4312.7339 |
5243 | | 4313.1582 | I was like, oh, it's all good. Blah blah blah. | 4314.8555 |
5245 | | 4315.3451 | And then like I go back over, and I'm chilling with the homies, | 4317.6055 |
5247 | | 4318.1184 | and then I realize, oh shit. | 4319.4846 |
5249 | | 4319.5825 | Like my dad was just saying he was okay with me being gay if I was. (laughing) | 4323.4190 |
5251 | | 4324.2816 | And I was like, that's what's up. | 4325.2701 |
5253 | | 4325.4333 | Like, (laughing) | 4326.0815 |
5255 | | 4326.4918 | you know, that's not the type of thing that | 4328.1192 |
5257 | | 4328.7475 | you would expect from your estranged father- | 4331.1349 |
5259 | | 4331.5173 | father | 4332.0582 |
5261 | | 4332.1701 | /that/ you haven't heard from in years. | 4334.2217 |
5263 | | 4334.5936 | You know, | 4334.8268 |
5265 | | 4335.2138 | so that was kind of cool. | 4336.0671 |
5267 | | 4336.2956 | Um, I helped him move | 4337.4169 |
5269 | | 4337.4939 | and then | 4337.9929 |
5271 | | 4338.6130 | we both kind of existed in our different worlds | 4341.0132 |
5273 | | 4341.3444 | knowing that we were okay with each other. | 4343.0743 |
5275 | | 4343.7691 | Um, | 4344.3612 |
5277 | | 4345.3964 | then for- la- a- | 4346.2171 |
5279 | | 4346.3383 | after I turned twenty-one, | 4347.4036 |
5281 | | 4347.7547 | I had just been thinking to myself, damn I would really like to have a beer with my dad, | 4350.5431 |
5283 | | 4350.6643 | just to like, | 4351.1959 |
5285 | | 4351.6296 | you know, | 4351.9793 |
5287 | | 4352.3523 | be like, look, | 4352.8967 |
5289 | | 4353.0366 | shit is all good, like, | 4354.1650 |
5291 | | 4354.2443 | you know, there was never any issue. | 4355.3074 |
5293 | | 4356.0908 | Um, | 4356.7669 |
5295 | | 4358.1938 | <ts> | 4358.2684 |
5297 | | 4358.4922 | but last year he had a stroke, | 4360.2629 |
5299 | | 4360.8132 | and I went | 4362.1561 |
5301 | | 4362.2960 | to the hospital when he was in the hospital, | 4363.9979 |
5303 | | 4364.4176 | and he hadn't talked to anybody else, | 4365.9319 |
5305 | | 4366.0298 | like he didn't | 4366.5381 |
5307 | | 4366.7572 | like say any words | 4368.1234 |
5309 | | 4368.4125 | to anybody else, and they thought that he couldn't talk anymore. | 4370.6134 |
5311 | | 4371.0879 | Um, but I walked in the door, | 4372.1650 |
5313 | | 4372.5194 | he started crying, | 4373.2328 |
5315 | | 4374.0768 | and I was like, I love you Dad, and he was like, I love you too. | 4376.3523 |
5317 | | 4376.9713 | And everybody was like, oh snap! | 4378.3702 |
5319 | | 4378.6546 | <laugh> And like, | 4379.4660 |
5321 | | 4380.1654 | I was like, yeah. | 4380.7669 |
5323 | | 4381.3778 | Um, and so | 4382.4829 |
5325 | | 4382.5983 | we- we talk every now and then. | 4384.0345 |
5327 | | 4384.4355 | Um, | 4384.9064 |
5329 | | 4385.5546 | he let me know the reason why he doesn't talk as much. | 4388.6554 |
5331 | | 4390.4401 | <sigh> | 4390.9064 |
5333 | | 4391.2655 | And it's | 4391.7644 |
5335 | | 4392.1095 | yeah. | 4392.4685 |
5337 | | 4392.9068 | So | 4393.4710 |
5339 | | 4393.9513 | <ts> | 4394.0585 |
5341 | | 4394.2964 | the- | 4394.8932 |
5343 | | 4396.1370 | his wife | 4397.2981 |
5345 | | 4398.8182 | and his three daughters | 4400.8326 |
5347 | | 4401.4516 | are | 4401.6474 |
5349 | | 4401.8200 | all | 4402.5893 |
5351 | | 4402.8924 | a lot | 4403.3867 |
5353 | | 4403.4753 | like his- | 4404.1141 |
5355 | | 4404.4265 | the mother, | 4405.0933 |
5357 | | 4405.2612 | like, | 4405.5270 |
5359 | | 4405.6808 | uh, his wife. | 4406.5656 |
5361 | | 4407.1252 | And so | 4407.7967 |
5363 | | 4407.8852 | they're- | 4408.5381 |
5365 | | 4408.7805 | they're all hyper talkative | 4410.7996 |
5367 | | 4411.5549 | and | 4412.3290 |
5369 | | 4413.4609 | don't wanna let him have a say in the scenario. Like, | 4416.5011 |
5371 | | 4416.9208 | they're- | 4417.2099 |
5373 | | 4420.3609 | he's not a- | 4421.0416 |
5375 | | 4421.8064 | I would say- | 4422.7483 |
5377 | | 4423.6389 | I don't wanna say he's a beta male, | 4425.3070 |
5379 | | 4425.7454 | but like, | 4426.2536 |
5381 | | 4426.4168 | he's not one to be like, | 4427.6805 |
5383 | | 4427.8996 | rah! and this that and the third and angry and like, all that like, | 4431.2884 |
5385 | | 4431.6614 | machismo. Like he's- | 4432.9857 |
5387 | | 4433.3168 | he's very similar to me | 4435.0933 |
5389 | | 4435.5689 | though I wouldn't say that I'm a beta either. | 4437.7640 |
5391 | | 4438.0997 | Um, | 4438.5893 |
5393 | | 4438.8738 | I'm | 4439.0743 |
5395 | | 4439.2748 | definitely | 4439.9043 |
5397 | | 4439.9929 | alpha male, | 4440.8229 |
5399 | | 4441.2192 | but I am a quiet leader. | 4442.7288 |
5401 | | 4443.2138 | Um, | 4443.7220 |
5403 | | 4443.8573 | and that's a- | 4444.3096 |
5405 | | 4444.9670 | there's a | 4445.3960 |
5407 | | 4445.5266 | big difference between being a beta and a follower | 4447.7461 |
5409 | | 4448.1973 | and | 4448.8093 |
5411 | | 4448.9900 | being like a quiet leader. | 4450.0764 |
5413 | | 4450.4168 | I think my dad is closer to that. | 4452.0395 |
5415 | | 4452.6970 | Um, | 4453.3591 |
5417 | | 4454.1984 | <ts> | 4454.2917 |
5419 | | 4454.4502 | but they're all alpha. | 4455.7547 |
5421 | | 4456.0671 | Like, | 4456.3375 |
5423 | | 4456.9484 | all of the women in that household are like, | 4458.5384 |
5425 | | 4459.3638 | yeah! | 4459.7928 |
5427 | | 4459.9513 | And you should be doing this | 4461.0692 |
5429 | | 4461.2324 | and | 4461.3350 |
5431 | | 4461.4376 | da da da da da! | 4462.0065 |
5433 | | 4462.2070 | And like, I walk in, | 4463.1069 |
5435 | | 4463.2701 | and I be like, look, | 4463.9276 |
5437 | | 4464.4359 | sis, | 4464.7809 |
5439 | | 4464.9068 | sis, | 4465.2332 |
5441 | | 4465.3498 | sis, | 4465.6435 |
5443 | | 4465.8580 | chill. | 4466.1844 |
5445 | | 4466.6636 | You, | 4466.8408 |
5447 | | 4467.5635 | respect to you. | 4468.2023 |
5449 | | 4468.5287 | Boom boom boom. | 4469.0416 |
5451 | | 4469.3074 | But | 4469.4846 |
5453 | | 4469.6945 | <ts> | 4469.7924 |
5455 | | 4470.1468 | I'm out. | 4470.3379 |
5457 | | 4470.5431 | <laugh> Like- like- | 4471.4430 |
5459 | | 4471.8907 | like it's just like, | 4472.7720 |
5461 | | 4473.5215 | you know, like there was a time where my | 4475.9323 |
5463 | | 4476.9068 | younger sister who is the eldest of the three | 4479.0786 |
5465 | | 4479.6101 | um, | 4480.2629 |
5467 | | 4481.0976 | <ts> | 4481.1862 |
5469 | | 4481.3447 | she was like, saying something about | 4483.0467 |
5471 | | 4483.4897 | how- Well, | 4484.0026 |
5473 | | 4484.3150 | like she | 4485.1019 |
5475 | | 4486.9717 | Facebook messaged the mother of my child, | 4489.1773 |
5477 | | 4489.3218 | this | 4489.5083 |
5479 | | 4489.6808 | all kinds of | 4490.4642 |
5481 | | 4490.5563 | disrespectful stuff, | 4491.5110 |
5483 | | 4491.9179 | and I was like, that's not your place. Like, | 4493.8110 |
5485 | | 4493.9276 | what are you doing? Like, no, that is not- | 4495.8627 |
5487 | | 4496.1938 | not okay. | 4496.8419 |
5489 | | 4497.3164 | Um, | 4498.0298 |
5491 | | 4498.9577 | and so | 4499.2701 |
5493 | | 4499.5359 | that's the type of household that he's in, and that's why he's not talking as much. | 4502.9247 |
5495 | | 4503.2837 | Um, and he talks to me. It's interesting. It's all weird. | 4506.2074 |
5497 | | 4506.8648 | Um, | 4507.4850 |
5499 | | 4509.1765 | but yeah. | 4509.5868 |
5501 | | 4509.9785 | So | 4510.3982 |
5503 | | 4511.1489 | I said | 4511.5592 |
5505 | | 4511.6945 | all of that, | 4512.7491 |
5507 | | 4513.6016 | coming back to the poetry. | 4515.2045 |
5509 | | 4515.5635 | Um, | 4516.3795 |
5511 | | 4517.3774 | so | 4518.0162 |
5513 | | 4518.6364 | I had always been interested in writing, | 4520.4689 |
5515 | | 4520.7615 | <ts> | 4520.8128 |
5517 | | 4520.9014 | um, and I always had this passion in writing. | 4522.7619 |
5519 | | 4523.2142 | And | 4523.8110 |
5521 | | 4524.1468 | in ninth grade, | 4525.0141 |
5523 | | 4525.2938 | <ts> | 4525.3778 |
5525 | | 4525.4570 | um, | 4525.8627 |
5527 | | 4525.9933 | that's when I got like, | 4527.1493 |
5529 | | 4527.3723 | you know, | 4527.7547 |
5531 | | 4528.2676 | the emo, | 4529.5965 |
5533 | | 4530.3379 | nobody ever likes me, and | 4531.7730 |
5535 | | 4532.0306 | I don't know who [has a crush on me], | 4533.6008 |
5536 | DCB_int_01 | 4532.6123 | [<laugh>] | 4538.6496 |
5537 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4533.8619 | [and so I'm writing poems about it], | 4535.4380 |
5539 | | 4535.7691 | [and I'm depressed], | 4536.6877 |
5541 | | 4536.9628 | [and blah blah blah] | 4537.5083 |
5543 | | 4537.7928 | [blah.] | 4538.0632 |
5545 | | 4538.5144 | [And I] | 4538.6729 |
5546 | | 4538.8268 | don't understand who I am! | 4540.4681 |
5548 | | 4540.8458 | Um, | 4541.3680 |
5550 | | 4542.7436 | and so that's when I became a poet. | 4544.7801 |
5552 | | 4545.3210 | Um, | 4546.1091 |
5554 | | 4547.3168 | and that sort of got more refined, | 4549.6482 |
5556 | | 4550.1098 | uh, throughout high school. | 4551.4376 |
5558 | | 4551.7920 | It was still very dark and | 4554.1934 |
5560 | | 4554.4825 | brooding and | 4555.8207 |
5562 | | 4556.6496 | angsty | 4557.2884 |
5564 | | 4557.8479 | teenage poetry, | 4558.8132 |
5566 | | 4559.3494 | but it was poetry none the less. | 4560.7949 |
5568 | | 4561.2192 | <ts> | 4561.2845 |
5570 | | 4561.3591 | Um, | 4561.9979 |
5572 | | 4562.5796 | <ts> | 4562.6682 |
5574 | | 4562.9946 | it would be | 4563.7220 |
5576 | | 4563.8246 | two thousand one | 4565.1023 |
5578 | | 4565.3587 | that | 4565.8343 |
5580 | | 4566.1095 | I start really hitting my- | 4567.5037 |
5582 | | 4567.6249 | my stride as the HIV education performer. | 4570.6080 |
5584 | | 4571.1815 | Um, | 4571.8437 |
5586 | | 4573.3218 | I was | 4573.6791 |
5588 | | 4573.7741 | part of a group | 4574.4083 |
5590 | | 4575.0926 | of youth | 4575.8246 |
5592 | | 4575.9179 | chosen by Advocates For Youth | 4577.6152 |
5594 | | 4578.1934 | to go | 4578.9954 |
5596 | | 4579.1539 | speak | 4579.5363 |
5598 | | 4579.6342 | at the UN. | 4580.5295 |
5600 | | 4581.5775 | And while I was in New York for the UN session, | 4585.0980 |
5602 | | 4585.6296 | um- Well, | 4586.1098 |
5604 | | 4586.3325 | that was supposed to happen September fourteenth, two thousand one. | 4589.0137 |
5605 | DCB_int_01 | 4589.4520 | Mm. | 4589.7644 |
5606 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4589.7691 | We know what happened that week. | 4591.1400 |
5608 | | 4591.7415 | Um, so | 4593.3135 |
5610 | | 4594.2443 | we ended up going up, | 4595.9369 |
5612 | | 4596.0022 | um, in two thousand two, | 4597.4011 |
5614 | | 4597.9886 | um, | 4598.7160 |
5616 | | 4599.4563 | and | 4600.3749 |
5618 | | 4601.5825 | yeah. | 4601.9229 |
5620 | | 4602.1887 | While I was up there, | 4603.1539 |
5622 | | 4603.3638 | I bought my first pair of raver pants, | 4605.0226 |
5624 | | 4605.2791 | and I hit a open mic. | 4606.4588 |
5626 | | 4606.8551 | And I was like, this is amazing! | 4608.1887 |
5628 | | 4608.7389 | Um, | 4609.1586 |
5630 | | 4609.6062 | this guy, /RD-NAME-3/, | 4610.8139 |
5632 | | 4611.3117 | um, who | 4612.6127 |
5634 | | 4612.8551 | ended up moving to New York, | 4614.0768 |
5636 | | 4614.4918 | um, | 4615.0840 |
5638 | | 4615.3265 | he was a student at | 4616.8268 |
5640 | | 4617.0692 | University of Maryland Col- | 4618.5987 |
5642 | | 4618.7712 | Maryland, College Park, | 4620.0861 |
5644 | | 4620.8042 | and he told me about another open mic | 4622.7393 |
5646 | | 4623.3117 | um, | 4623.8200 |
5648 | | 4624.0251 | that was happening up there. So | 4625.5406 |
5650 | | 4625.9369 | I joined him for that open mic, | 4627.6202 |
5652 | | 4628.1285 | and | 4628.9852 |
5654 | | 4629.1998 | I | 4629.5682 |
5656 | | 4629.7920 | ended up meeting this guy, | 4631.0650 |
5658 | | 4631.5825 | Droopy the Broke | 4632.4125 |
5660 | | 4632.8695 | Baller. | 4633.1633 |
5662 | | 4633.9746 | Wait. | 4634.4893 |
5664 | | 4636.0484 | Let's go back. | 4636.6966 |
5666 | | 4637.2282 | Um, | 4638.0302 |
5668 | | 4639.4104 | I- uh, | 4640.1938 |
5670 | | 4641.6847 | with /RD-WORK-4/, | 4642.8411 |
5672 | | 4643.3727 | I performed at Howard University's homecoming, | 4646.1331 |
5674 | | 4646.7242 | um, for one of their campus pals events. | 4649.1675 |
5676 | | 4649.6898 | And | 4650.4219 |
5678 | | 4651.3964 | I did- | 4651.8814 |
5680 | | 4652.0119 | one of the b- | 4652.3849 |
5682 | | 4652.7848 | like, I walk out on stage, | 4654.0811 |
5684 | | 4654.2210 | and | 4654.5987 |
5686 | | 4654.7479 | when I had like, low hair, | 4656.1561 |
5688 | | 4656.5897 | uh, they all thought I looked like Prodigy from Mobb Deep. | 4658.9760 |
5690 | | 4659.2744 | And so I came out, they were like, oh shit, it's Prodigy! | 4661.4660 |
5692 | | 4662.0255 | And I did a poem, | 4663.0234 |
5694 | | 4663.1306 | and everybody was like, oh that was tight. | 4664.2150 |
5696 | | 4664.7801 | And then immediately following me, | 4666.3515 |
5698 | | 4666.4634 | this guy, uh, /RD-NAME-4/ got up and did a poem. | 4669.1400 |
5700 | | 4669.6948 | And | 4670.2486 |
5702 | | 4670.3465 | it was called, The Surrogate Boyfriend. | 4671.9039 |
5704 | | 4672.5194 | And it was | 4673.1302 |
5706 | | 4673.2328 | all of the feelings that I had around like, | 4675.2192 |
5708 | | 4675.5270 | being that best guy friend, | 4677.2697 |
5710 | | 4677.5588 | all that stuff. And I was like, | 4678.4028 |
5712 | | 4678.5101 | yo! That is my life! | 4679.9602 |
5714 | | 4680.1887 | Right? | 4680.4172 |
5716 | | 4681.0560 | Um, | 4681.7368 |
5718 | | 4682.3476 | fast forward | 4683.0676 |
5720 | | 4683.3070 | two years later- | 4684.0764 |
5722 | | 4684.4028 | Who is messaging me? I'm sorry. | 4685.7224 |
5724 | | 4686.3752 | Um, fast forward two years later, | 4688.5761 |
5726 | | 4689.2371 | and | 4690.1137 |
5728 | | 4691.1209 | I'm at that open mic in College Park, | 4693.0420 |
5730 | | 4693.8580 | and | 4694.5248 |
5732 | | 4694.7382 | the feature happens to be | 4696.5893 |
5734 | | 4696.8924 | that guy, | 4697.7131 |
5736 | | 4697.8064 | /RD-NAME-4/. | 4698.5991 |
5738 | | 4699.1819 | And I w- he w- | 4699.8161 |
5740 | | 4700.0958 | like, he- I didn't recognize him, | 4701.5542 |
5742 | | 4701.8666 | but as soon | 4702.6593 |
5744 | | 4702.7992 | as, uh, he got up there, | 4704.4359 |
5746 | | 4704.7902 | he was like, yo, I'm'a do this poem. | 4706.2824 |
5748 | | 4706.5750 | I'm'a dedicate it to the brother in the back. Blah blah blah. | 4708.8132 |
5750 | | 4709.1629 | And he did it, | 4709.6525 |
5752 | | 4709.7597 | and I was like, <gasp> | 4710.6643 |
5754 | | 4710.7529 | oh snap! | 4711.3125 |
5756 | | 4711.4430 | This is the guy that I been telling everybody about. Blah blah blah blah, right? | 4713.6754 |
5758 | | 4714.7059 | So, | 4715.4287 |
5760 | | 4715.9136 | and it was | 4716.3612 |
5762 | | 4716.8369 | like- | 4717.2192 |
5764 | | 4719.4982 | and now realizing he remembered me. | 4721.7318 |
5766 | | 4722.3379 | And like what about | 4723.4151 |
5768 | | 4723.7601 | me | 4724.2311 |
5770 | | 4724.5097 | made him remember me, | 4725.6055 |
5772 | | 4725.9972 | um, in that situation? | 4727.4333 |
5774 | | 4727.6478 | It was like, wow, like, you're the star of the show, and you remember little /RD-NAME-2/ from | 4731.5588 |
5776 | | 4732.0298 | Howard. | 4732.5940 |
5778 | | 4733.1116 | Um, | 4733.7411 |
5780 | | 4734.7856 | <ts> | 4734.8742 |
5782 | | 4735.2379 | so | 4735.9886 |
5784 | | 4736.9247 | fast forward. | 4737.6941 |
5786 | | 4738.1324 | Um, | 4738.6220 |
5788 | | 4738.8551 | he ends up, | 4739.8343 |
5790 | | 4739.9742 | at the | 4740.1980 |
5792 | | 4740.3333 | end of | 4740.7203 |
5794 | | 4740.8089 | two thousand two, | 4741.7088 |
5796 | | 4742.0073 | hosting that same open mic | 4743.8526 |
5798 | | 4744.0578 | in Brookland, um, in DC. | 4746.0675 |
5800 | | 4746.4825 | And I become a regular. | 4747.5270 |
5802 | | 4747.9093 | And so like, I'm always there, | 4749.3630 |
5804 | | 4749.6241 | whenever he's running late, I'm- | 4750.9670 |
5806 | | 4751.0976 | I start | 4751.5452 |
5808 | | 4751.7364 | the hosting and doing the open mic. | 4753.4477 |
5810 | | 4753.8907 | Um, | 4754.5668 |
5812 | | 4754.9667 | and we made it official. I became a cohost | 4757.2188 |
5814 | | 4757.2981 | in two thousand four | 4758.3519 |
5816 | | 4758.6877 | when the venue moved from Brookland | 4760.3663 |
5818 | | 4760.5470 | to, | 4760.9620 |
5820 | | 4761.6614 | uh, | 4762.1510 |
5822 | | 4763.1442 | <ts> | 4763.2282 |
5824 | | 4763.2981 | U Street. | 4763.7691 |
5826 | | 4764.3146 | Um, this spot called Mocha Hut. | 4765.5549 |
5828 | | 4766.2544 | Mocha Hut is when | 4767.0739 |
5830 | | 4767.1998 | a lot of folks found out about Spit That. | 4769.0556 |
5832 | | 4769.5546 | Um, | 4770.0302 |
5834 | | 4770.3706 | Spit That is now recognized as the longest running open mic in DC. | 4773.3910 |
5836 | | 4774.0158 | Um, | 4774.6546 |
5838 | | 4775.1116 | we got like, a mayor's commendation and all that stuff for that. | 4778.5190 |
5840 | | 4779.1345 | So | 4779.5262 |
5842 | | 4779.6288 | that's pretty cool. | 4780.3982 |
5844 | | 4781.7784 | Um, | 4782.5991 |
5846 | | 4783.1073 | and we still host it to this day, | 4784.3943 |
5848 | | 4784.8846 | um, every Thursday. /RD-NAME-1/ actually was at my office earlier today, printing out stuff, | 4789.3283 |
5850 | | 4789.7899 | um, cause we're both make- | 4790.8752 |
5852 | | 4791.0151 | doing submissions so that we can- uh, | 4792.6518 |
5854 | | 4793.6357 | we can | 4794.3165 |
5856 | | 4794.5356 | get this- | 4795.0812 |
5858 | | 4795.2117 | this book money. | 4795.9578 |
5859 | DCB_int_01 | 4796.5442 | What time? | 4796.9872 |
5860 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4798.3720 | What time today? | 4799.0248 |
5861 | DCB_int_01 | 4799.2253 | [No], | 4799.4678 |
5862 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4799.2347 | [Or what] time- | 4799.7010 |
5863 | DCB_int_01 | 4799.6963 | /at/ Mocha Hut. | 4800.3165 |
5864 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4800.6382 | Oh! | 4800.8853 |
5866 | | 4800.9739 | Oh, well Mocha Hut doesn't exist anymore. | 4802.5209 |
5867 | DCB_int_01 | 4802.6701 | Oh. | 4802.8286 |
5868 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4802.9545 | Um, | 4803.5607 |
5870 | | 4803.9337 | we are now | 4804.6425 |
5872 | | 4804.8383 | at | 4805.1228 |
5874 | | 4805.2906 | seven thirty three Euclid Street. | 4807.6815 |
5875 | DCB_int_01 | 4808.0546 | Mm-hm. | 4808.3390 |
5876 | DCB_se2_ag3_m_02 | 4808.7167 | <ts> Um, it's the ECAC, | 4810.1715 |
5878 | | 4810.2694 | the Emergence Community Arts Collective, | 4812.1812 |
5880 | | 4812.6522 | um, right near Howard University, | 4814.5067 |
5882 | | 4815.5840 | across the street from Banneker High School. | 4817.2813 |
5884 | | 4817.9621 | <ts> | 4818.0507 |
5886 | | 4818.1952 | And, uh, | 4819.4682 |
5888 | | 4820.3437 | that starts at nine o'clock, | 4821.8265 |
5890 | | 4822.0363 | ends | 4822.5399 |
5892 | | 4822.9922 | whenever we get through all twenty plus names, | 4826.0042 |
5894 | | 4826.3903 | uh, that are on our open mic list. | 4828.0829 |