Line | Speaker | St Time | Content | En Time |
1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.5292 | And, | 1.2921 |
3 | | 1.5454 | were you born in DC? | 2.5739 |
4 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2.8299 | I was born in DC at Georgetown University Hospital. | 5.5632 |
5 | DCB_int_01 | 5.9512 | Oh, | 6.1633 |
7 | | 6.3434 | woop woop. | 6.8716 |
8 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 6.8917 | [Mm-hm.] <laugh> | 8.8125 |
9 | DCB_int_01 | 7.1518 | [GU.] | 7.6880 |
10 | | 8.9086 | Um, | 9.7090 |
12 | | 9.8569 | what do you consider your neighborhood that you- what do you call home- your neighborhood that you call home? | 14.0102 |
13 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 14.8750 | In DC [the neighborhood] I call home is Deanwood. | 17.0280 |
14 | DCB_int_01 | 15.5113 | [Mm.] | 15.7874 |
15 | | 17.0960 | Deanwood. | 17.6283 |
17 | | 19.2009 | And have you lived here all your life? | 20.3809 |
18 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 21.1656 | I've n- | 21.7619 |
20 | | 21.8780 | I've lived here the majority of my [life.] | 23.6028 |
21 | DCB_int_01 | 23.4706 | [And] | 23.9519 |
22 | | 24.1229 | where are some other places you lived? | 25.4882 |
23 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 25.5716 | I've lived in Richmond, Virginia. | 27.0683 |
24 | DCB_int_01 | 28.3527 | How long? | 28.8194 |
25 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 29.5613 | I lived there | 31.0620 |
27 | | 31.5296 | five, six years. | 34.0231 |
28 | DCB_int_01 | 35.0596 | Anywhere else? | 35.6209 |
29 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 35.8598 | That's it. | 36.1705 |
30 | DCB_int_01 | 36.9842 | So yeah, the majority. | 37.8566 |
31 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 38.0087 | Mm-hm. | 38.2368 |
32 | DCB_int_01 | 38.3008 | Um, | 39.0915 |
34 | | 39.4814 | any other neighborhoods besides Deanwood? | 41.1582 |
36 | | 41.3381 | Have you moved around a lot? | 42.4866 |
37 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 43.0869 | Um, I grew up in Deanwood, | 44.3656 |
38 | DCB_int_01 | 44.4194 | Mm-hm. | 44.7036 |
39 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 44.8516 | in DC. | 45.5290 |
41 | | 45.9121 | Um, | 46.5068 |
43 | | 47.3927 | after I came back to DC- | 49.5199 |
45 | | 49.9297 | um, the DC area, I lived in | 51.8906 |
47 | | 52.0746 | Riverdale, | 52.6786 |
49 | | 53.9635 | Bladensburg, | 54.8555 |
50 | DCB_int_01 | 55.4881 | Mm-hm. | 55.8882 |
51 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 56.8287 | Brentwood, | 57.5290 |
53 | | 58.7336 | and now Cheverly. | 59.6002 |
54 | DCB_int_01 | 62.1189 | Perfect. | 62.5909 |
56 | | 63.3314 | And | 64.1917 |
58 | | 64.4558 | where'd you go to school? | 65.2641 |
59 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 66.1285 | High school or [college?] | 67.3330 |
60 | DCB_int_01 | 67.1169 | [High] school and college. | 68.1974 |
61 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 68.3454 | High school I attended St. Patrick's Academy | 70.6224 |
63 | | 70.8906 | in Northwest DC. | 72.0711 |
65 | | 73.7518 | College I attended Virginia Commonwealth University. | 76.3170 |
66 | DCB_int_01 | 76.4639 | <ts> | 76.5359 |
68 | | 76.6650 | [VCU.] | 77.6534 |
69 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 77.4732 | [Mm.] | 77.6773 |
70 | | 77.8374 | [<laugh>] | 78.3416 |
71 | DCB_int_01 | 77.8774 | [Shaka Smart.] | 78.5934 |
72 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 78.5537 | [<laugh>] | 79.4311 |
73 | DCB_int_01 | 78.6778 | [Loved him.] | 79.2701 |
74 | | 79.6743 | But he- now he's in Texas. | 80.8788 |
76 | | 81.5350 | Um, and what's your occupation? | 83.5265 |
77 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 84.1681 | My occupation is executive | 86.8813 |
79 | | 87.0693 | assistant | 87.6573 |
81 | | 88.1178 | at Boys and Girls Clubs of Greater Washington. | 90.0347 |
82 | DCB_int_01 | 92.6677 | And where was your father born? | 94.3124 |
83 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 94.4325 | My father was born in Rich | 96.0292 |
85 | | 96.2332 | Square | 96.7614 |
87 | | 97.0696 | North Carolina. | 97.8682 |
88 | DCB_int_01 | 99.3625 | Rich | 99.9548 |
90 | | 100.1669 | Square? | 100.8472 |
91 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 100.8511 | [Yes.] | 101.4834 |
92 | DCB_int_01 | 101.3273 | [And] w- | 101.6406 |
93 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 101.8195 | [It's-] | 102.1555 |
94 | DCB_int_01 | 101.8235 | [where-] | 102.1197 |
95 | | 102.2037 | is [that near-] | 102.8704 |
96 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 102.3158 | [it's about as] big as this room. | 103.8325 |
97 | | 104.2765 | It is very North | 105.9053 |
99 | | 105.9773 | and very East | 107.2338 |
101 | | 107.8541 | um, in the state. | 108.8034 |
103 | | 109.1587 | so it's about | 110.1631 |
105 | | 110.4151 | an | 110.5592 |
107 | | 110.6953 | hour from Emporia, Virginia. | 112.6162 |
108 | DCB_int_01 | 113.0722 | Gotcha. | 113.3949 |
110 | | 113.5685 | Okay so it's not- it's- yeah, yeah, yeah, you're at the top. | 116.2097 |
111 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 116.3016 | [Mm-hm.] | 116.8336 |
112 | DCB_int_01 | 116.3256 | [Kind of close] to the border, okay. | 117.7403 |
113 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 117.8503 | Mm-hm. | 118.3663 |
114 | DCB_int_01 | 118.4386 | Mommy? | 118.8188 |
115 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 119.2468 | My mother was born in Taylors, South Carolina. | 121.3598 |
116 | DCB_int_01 | 121.6839 | Oh, okay. | 122.4799 |
118 | | 123.0845 | They liketa be neighbors. | 124.1890 |
119 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 124.3930 | <laugh> | 125.3854 |
120 | DCB_int_01 | 126.2018 | Um, what did your dad do? | 127.3045 |
121 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 128.5387 | My father | 129.9393 |
123 | | 130.5636 | um, | 130.8397 |
125 | | 131.0118 | who's now retired, | 131.9385 |
127 | | 132.2844 | was | 133.2088 |
129 | | 133.3889 | a- | 134.0652 |
131 | | 135.1455 | a janitorial supervisor. | 136.6855 |
132 | DCB_int_01 | 138.7431 | Where? | 139.0485 |
134 | | 139.6513 | at different places? Was it one company that he was | 142.1925 |
136 | | 142.3085 | for the most part? | 143.0379 |
137 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 143.2930 | Um, | 143.8010 |
139 | | 145.3018 | two major companies. | 146.1418 |
141 | | 146.2422 | One he worked for um, | 148.0911 |
143 | | 148.5391 | Architect of the Capitol. | 149.7417 |
144 | DCB_int_01 | 150.1878 | Mm. | 150.4399 |
145 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 151.0802 | So he was the s- | 152.1247 |
147 | | 152.4489 | janitorial supervisor for the senate office- all the senate office buildings. | 156.1328 |
149 | | 156.7626 | And he retired | 157.8791 |
151 | | 157.9912 | as the | 158.8699 |
153 | | 160.6443 | um, janitorial supervisor and grounds | 163.8201 |
155 | | 164.0697 | keeper supervisor at Gallaudet University. | 166.3148 |
156 | DCB_int_01 | 166.5988 | Oh. | 167.5589 |
158 | | 170.0521 | I love them. | 170.7044 |
160 | | 170.8365 | I've- I've taken classes there, just did a presentation there not too long ago. | 174.1580 |
162 | | 174.9021 | Um, and what about Mom? | 176.2027 |
163 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 176.6229 | My mother uh, retired also, worked for department of the Army as | 181.2051 |
165 | | 181.5451 | an insurance benefits examiner. | 183.2598 |
166 | DCB_int_01 | 186.8793 | Perfect. | 187.4676 |
168 | | 188.0117 | Alright so that's all I'm gonna write, no more writing for me. | 190.2246 |
170 | | 191.4652 | Alright so let's kind of back up | 192.9539 |
171 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 193.2220 | [Okay.] | 193.6140 |
172 | DCB_int_01 | 193.3181 | [And let's] like- like get into | 194.6661 |
173 | | 195.3309 | so you were | 195.8671 |
175 | | 196.1152 | Deanwood, | 196.8259 |
176 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 197.0195 | [Mm-hm.] | 197.4037 |
177 | DCB_int_01 | 197.1636 | [So what] do you remember- | 198.2689 |
178 | | 198.6323 | First of all do you have siblings? Are you an only child? | 201.0254 |
179 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 201.1813 | I'm an only child. | 201.8853 |
180 | DCB_int_01 | 202.7889 | I did not know that, that's why I love doing this because | 205.3368 |
182 | | 206.0552 | I've known /RD-NAME-2/ for three years, | 207.2758 |
184 | | 207.9361 | never heard her story. | 209.0246 |
186 | | 209.0966 | I've known you for- it's been what, | 210.4132 |
187 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 210.7333 | Almost a year? | 211.2253 |
188 | DCB_int_01 | 210.8413 | n- almost a year? Yeah you kidding, ooh you [hitting that mark.] | 213.6666 |
189 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 213.0423 | [Mm-hm.] | 213.5196 |
190 | | 213.7026 | [Mm-hm.] | 214.2069 |
191 | DCB_int_01 | 213.9587 | [Feels] probably like | 214.7028 |
192 | | 215.0950 | lots of years. | 215.8714 |
194 | | 216.1675 | Amen. | 216.5435 |
196 | | 216.9119 | Um, | 217.7559 |
198 | | 218.0524 | but | 218.4926 |
200 | | 218.5965 | uh, so I love to get to know this. Okay so you're an only [child.] | 221.7300 |
201 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 221.6139 | [Mm-hm.] | 222.0312 |
202 | DCB_int_01 | 222.2086 | <ts> | 222.2916 |
204 | | 222.7638 | And you grew up- | 224.0444 |
206 | | 224.3070 | Did you live in a house, a townhouse, an apartment? | 227.2083 |
207 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 227.2843 | We lived in a single family house. | 228.6489 |
208 | DCB_int_01 | 228.8209 | [Oh, okay.] | 229.4492 |
209 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 228.9850 | [My parents] s- well my father still in the house, yeah. | 231.1058 |
210 | DCB_int_01 | 231.3499 | Oh. | 231.6461 |
212 | | 231.8382 | [So you still-] | 232.3864 |
213 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 231.8542 | [Mm-hm.] | 232.2463 |
214 | DCB_int_01 | 232.5145 | do you go back to- oh, [obviously.] | 233.9638 |
215 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 233.3388 | [I was in Deanwood] last night at his house. | 235.2878 |
216 | | 235.6878 | [<laugh>] | 236.6162 |
217 | DCB_int_01 | 235.6918 | [Perfect, okay so describe-] describe like your neighborhood, your house and what do you remember like the kids you used to play with. | 241.4541 |
218 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 241.8863 | [Mm-hm.] | 242.3945 |
219 | DCB_int_01 | 242.1184 | [Um], | 242.5186 |
220 | | 242.8227 | tell me a little [bit about that.] | 244.0147 |
221 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 243.2910 | [So-] | 243.8392 |
222 | | 244.3314 | Well when I was growing up in the sixties and seventies, Deanwood | 247.4328 |
224 | | 247.5528 | w- | 247.6369 |
226 | | 247.7329 | was more like | 249.1055 |
228 | | 249.3414 | the suburb of DC. | 250.7661 |
229 | DCB_int_01 | 250.7220 | [Mm.] | 251.0142 |
230 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 250.9101 | [A] suburb more so than inner city. | 253.1912 |
231 | | 253.5832 | Um, actually where I grew up right on the border across from | 256.8087 |
233 | | 256.9447 | Maryland. | 257.4033 |
234 | DCB_int_01 | 257.5449 | Mm-hm. | 257.9171 |
235 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 257.9571 | So, | 258.2518 |
237 | | 259.5739 | less than half a block away | 260.7263 |
239 | | 260.8383 | was Eastern Avenue, | 261.9949 |
241 | | 262.1429 | and then across Eastern Avenue was | 263.4956 |
243 | | 263.5834 | PG County. | 264.2437 |
245 | | 264.7199 | Um, | 265.0826 |
247 | | 265.6203 | so it was quiet. | 266.6768 |
249 | | 267.8493 | Uh, my street didn't even have s- | 269.3419 |
251 | | 269.5100 | sidewalks on it | 270.4424 |
253 | | 270.9346 | until after I moved away to college. | 272.8275 |
255 | | 273.5798 | So it was- it was very quiet s- uh, | 275.9609 |
257 | | 276.2207 | our block was nothing but single family homes. | 278.6218 |
259 | | 279.0700 | Um, | 279.6502 |
261 | | 279.7782 | our house was the last house | 282.0473 |
263 | | 282.6675 | in that block- on that street to be built. | 285.0526 |
265 | | 285.9289 | Um, so it was the newer one it was built- | 288.2379 |
267 | | 288.7260 | we moved in it when I was four. | 289.9874 |
269 | | 290.7949 | So and we still own the house still, | 292.4476 |
271 | | 292.5797 | our fam- | 292.9038 |
273 | | 293.0919 | the family house. | 293.8443 |
275 | | 294.4364 | And um, | 295.5369 |
277 | | 295.8329 | I just remember it just being really really quiet, | 298.1460 |
279 | | 298.6783 | there were not a lot of children. | 300.9713 |
280 | DCB_int_01 | 301.6555 | Mm. | 301.9436 |
281 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 301.8876 | Um, | 302.4930 |
282 | | 302.7994 | <ts> | 302.8369 |
284 | | 302.8860 | maybe | 303.5953 |
286 | | 303.6803 | in our block there was only | 305.5328 |
288 | | 306.8217 | two other houses that had | 307.9142 |
290 | | 308.3703 | kids my age or around my age. | 310.2111 |
292 | | 310.7353 | And I was the youngest. | 311.5807 |
293 | DCB_int_01 | 312.3158 | Did you play with them? | 313.0118 |
294 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 313.5364 | Um, | 314.4568 |
296 | | 314.9010 | <ts> | 314.9460 |
298 | | 315.1451 | the kids next door, no. | 316.4256 |
300 | | 316.9178 | They were | 317.8223 |
302 | | 317.9503 | um, a little older, | 319.1869 |
303 | DCB_int_01 | 319.2988 | Mm-hm. | 319.5950 |
304 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 319.8472 | and um, | 320.8395 |
306 | | 320.9476 | not considered a good influence for me. | 323.2166 |
307 | DCB_int_01 | 324.0569 | Okay. | 324.4931 |
308 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 324.5171 | Mm-hm. | 324.9613 |
309 | DCB_int_01 | 325.2174 | So what did you do to fill your | 327.0103 |
311 | | 327.2221 | time like, | 328.1625 |
313 | | 328.2306 | you know? | 328.6066 |
314 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 329.5632 | Um, | 330.1115 |
316 | | 330.6797 | I was very studious. | 332.7327 |
318 | | 333.3367 | I was just talking with | 335.5457 |
320 | | 335.7058 | /RD-NAME-2/ | 336.1460 |
322 | | 336.2500 | today, | 336.6983 |
324 | | 337.2185 | um, cause sh- | 337.7027 |
326 | | 337.8467 | we were talking about movies and TVs, when I was growing up I was not allowed to watch TV | 341.8293 |
328 | | 342.3686 | on | 342.9489 |
330 | | 343.4970 | weekdays or school days I could only watch TV on the weekends. | 346.3904 |
332 | | 346.7584 | I was not allowed to be on the phone past eight o'clock at night. | 349.4837 |
334 | | 350.1517 | So it was mostly | 351.0041 |
336 | | 351.1082 | reading, listening to music. | 352.8130 |
337 | DCB_int_01 | 353.7534 | So now, | 354.3015 |
339 | | 354.3856 | the sixties so, | 355.4459 |
341 | | 355.8821 | TV was- | 356.9088 |
342 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 357.3228 | [Black and white?] | 357.8671 |
343 | DCB_int_01 | 357.4869 | [it was-] | 357.8671 |
344 | | 357.9591 | [Mm-hm.] | 358.4113 |
345 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 358.0952 | [<laugh>] | 359.0071 |
346 | DCB_int_01 | 359.0476 | It- it was just getting it's | 360.6122 |
348 | | 360.7843 | go. | 361.2485 |
349 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 361.3165 | Uh-huh. | 361.6127 |
350 | DCB_int_01 | 361.5767 | Um, do you remember like any- | 363.0974 |
351 | | 363.6735 | What used to be your favorite TV show and like when you- | 366.5148 |
353 | | 366.8068 | you guys got your n- | 367.8175 |
355 | | 368.0394 | color TV and like- | 369.4040 |
357 | | 369.8961 | [Do you remember] that? | 370.7845 |
358 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 369.9242 | [Mm-hm.] | 370.5164 |
359 | | 370.8486 | Mm-hm. | 371.1887 |
361 | | 371.7929 | I do. | 372.1210 |
363 | | 372.4332 | I remember. | 373.0175 |
365 | | 373.3936 | Um, and I remember the time when we had both black and white and color TVs [cause], yeah. | 377.6235 |
366 | DCB_int_01 | 376.9311 | [Mm.] | 377.2273 |
367 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 378.1956 | Um, | 378.7279 |
369 | | 379.6643 | it was- like I said I wasn't allowed to watch TV during the week, only on the weekends or if I could sneak in | 384.6145 |
371 | | 384.9504 | like | 385.1184 |
373 | | 385.2145 | sit next to my father while he was doing something I would watch TV. | 388.3758 |
375 | | 388.8400 | But the TV shows that I remember | 390.7849 |
377 | | 391.2091 | um, are- I was just talking about this today- are like, Bewitched, | 394.8467 |
378 | DCB_int_01 | 395.0908 | Mm-hm. | 395.5921 |
379 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 395.7510 | um, | 396.4953 |
381 | | 396.6074 | I Dream of [Jeannie,] | 397.7118 |
382 | DCB_int_01 | 397.5517 | [Yup.] | 397.9799 |
383 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 398.1370 | <ts> | 398.2090 |
385 | | 398.8123 | Brady Bunch which came later, Gilligan's Island, | 401.7577 |
387 | | 402.1977 | um, that kind of thing. | 402.9821 |
389 | | 403.4542 | The only thing that I was allowed to watch on my own | 406.3916 |
391 | | 406.5915 | was Roots when Roots came out because my father felt that was something educational and I needed to know about. | 411.0736 |
393 | | 411.5216 | Um, | 411.9017 |
395 | | 412.0098 | but other than that it was no TV for me. | 414.0547 |
396 | DCB_int_01 | 414.8911 | And then- So where'd you go to ele- elementary school? Were you in the neighborhood or did you go [outside the neighborhood?] | 419.0409 |
397 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 418.1338 | <ts> | 418.1798 |
399 | | 418.2438 | [I started-] | 418.7758 |
401 | | 418.8766 | [I] started off in the neighborhood, it was- | 420.3813 |
402 | | 420.5174 | um, the school was uh, /RD-school-2/ Elementary School, | 423.0385 |
404 | | 423.1985 | which was in the neighborhood. | 424.1389 |
406 | | 424.6271 | I was there up until sixth grade and then I transferred to /RD-SCHOOL-5/, | 429.8631 |
408 | | 430.5536 | um, | 431.0539 |
410 | | 431.3380 | which is down on New York and New Jersey Avenue. | 433.3549 |
411 | DCB_int_01 | 433.4307 | [Mm-hm.] | 433.8229 |
412 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 433.6068 | [And then] from there I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 435.2814 |
413 | DCB_int_01 | 435.5237 | Okay. | 435.9519 |
415 | | 436.1920 | So, | 437.1044 |
417 | | 437.2885 | very much it seems Catholic school, | 440.0416 |
418 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 440.1377 | [Mm-hm.] | 440.7364 |
419 | DCB_int_01 | 440.1737 | [religious] | 440.8500 |
420 | | 440.9181 | type education? | 441.8274 |
421 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 442.1465 | Right. | 442.3705 |
422 | DCB_int_01 | 442.3906 | Was that a- | 442.6948 |
424 | | 442.9749 | that was- was that your choice? [Or] | 444.7754 |
425 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 444.3394 | [No.] | 445.0887 |
426 | DCB_int_01 | 444.9357 | [your] parent's choice and why did- | 446.3603 |
427 | | 446.4844 | do you know why they- | 447.1487 |
428 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 447.4487 | Mm-hm. | 447.8074 |
430 | | 448.5292 | Um, it was not my choice it was their, we're not Catholic. | 450.9503 |
432 | | 451.4783 | Um, | 452.0437 |
434 | | 452.1386 | my parents wanted | 453.8114 |
436 | | 453.9115 | a better life and a better education for me | 456.0364 |
438 | | 456.2405 | than they had. | 456.9246 |
440 | | 457.6970 | And at the time, the m- | 459.1977 |
442 | | 459.8900 | we called it junior high school, they called it middle school, junior high school | 462.7152 |
444 | | 462.7952 | it [was-] | 463.1113 |
445 | DCB_int_01 | 462.9313 | [It was just] seventh and eighth grade at that point. | 464.5200 |
446 | | 465.6604 | [Sixth grade was] still with the little people. | 467.0404 |
447 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 465.8085 | [Si-] | 466.1846 |
449 | | 467.0289 | Right. | 467.4491 |
450 | DCB_int_01 | 467.4371 | Mm-hm. | 467.8133 |
451 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 468.0214 | And | 468.2255 |
453 | | 468.3175 | at- | 468.4922 |
455 | | 468.5696 | during that time the- the junior high school in our neighborhood was | 471.8351 |
457 | | 471.9269 | notor- it was- | 472.6873 |
459 | | 472.9834 | had a really bad reputation. | 474.4961 |
461 | | 475.0284 | So um, | 476.0288 |
463 | | 476.4450 | they j- | 476.8852 |
465 | | 478.0136 | took me out of there and put me in the Catholic school for a better education and a better opportunity. | 481.9033 |
466 | DCB_int_01 | 482.5914 | So when- now | 483.4527 |
468 | | 483.5558 | going back to your parents for a minute, | 485.1726 |
469 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 485.3046 | Mm-hm. | 485.6248 |
470 | DCB_int_01 | 485.9449 | um, | 486.6811 |
472 | | 487.2734 | were they- did they graduate from high school? Did they have the opportunity to do that or did they stop? Or did they- were they able to go to college? | 493.5843 |
473 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 494.1764 | They graduated from high school. | 495.7931 |
474 | DCB_int_01 | 495.7850 | Mm-hm. | 496.1263 |
475 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 496.2372 | Um, I was the first person in my family | 498.2061 |
477 | | 498.2861 | on both sides to go to college | 499.7066 |
479 | | 499.9867 | in my family. | 500.7951 |
480 | DCB_int_01 | 500.9151 | And your | 501.2153 |
482 | | 501.3233 | parents by the time they graduate- were they here for high school or did they move here later after like when they were grown? | 506.1735 |
483 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 506.3174 | My mother was here from high school, | 507.8541 |
484 | DCB_int_01 | 507.8101 | Okay. | 508.0822 |
485 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 508.1102 | um, | 508.6625 |
487 | | 509.2067 | my mother's parents died when she was eleven | 511.0707 |
489 | | 511.4956 | in South Carolina so | 512.6962 |
491 | | 512.8521 | her older sister who was twenty years older than her brought her to DC, | 516.2816 |
492 | DCB_int_01 | 516.2416 | That's [how she ended up here], okay. | 517.5302 |
493 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 516.4258 | [and raised her.] | 517.2022 |
494 | | 517.9664 | Um, | 518.3105 |
496 | | 518.3986 | my father | 519.5991 |
498 | | 519.9992 | came here | 520.6915 |
500 | | 521.0237 | right after high school. | 522.0321 |
502 | | 522.6443 | Um, he had older brothers | 524.0850 |
504 | | 524.2689 | who had | 524.8492 |
506 | | 525.3134 | moved here, | 525.9694 |
507 | DCB_int_01 | 526.1578 | [Mm-hm.] | 526.5764 |
508 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 526.2539 | [and so] | 526.6592 |
509 | | 526.8101 | they brought him up here. | 527.8506 |
510 | DCB_int_01 | 528.5267 | [Gotcha.] | 529.0307 |
511 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 528.7828 | [And then] my mother's | 529.9873 |
512 | | 530.1074 | older sister | 531.0238 |
514 | | 531.2039 | knew my father's family, | 532.5245 |
515 | DCB_int_01 | 532.6164 | [I was just gonna say how'd they meet, mm-hm.] | 534.2778 |
516 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 532.6486 | [and then they got in-] | 533.5569 |
518 | | 533.7810 | [and they got introduced that way.] | 535.2016 |
519 | DCB_int_01 | 535.4537 | Okay. | 535.8671 |
521 | | 536.4141 | So um, | 537.6421 |
523 | | 538.1028 | do you have other family in this area? | 539.7402 |
524 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 541.3321 | Um, | 542.0961 |
526 | | 542.4366 | I did. | 543.0169 |
528 | | 544.2493 | Um, | 545.0177 |
530 | | 545.1417 | I had an aunt. | 545.7684 |
532 | | 545.9261 | Well my parents are still here. | 546.9466 |
533 | DCB_int_01 | 547.0586 | Mm-hm. | 547.3187 |
534 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 547.4908 | I had an aunt, the- the one that r- raised my mother. | 550.0799 |
536 | | 550.3999 | She died about six years- six, seven years ago. | 552.7490 |
538 | | 553.7333 | Uh, my father's siblings all | 556.4586 |
540 | | 556.5466 | moved back to North Carolina. | 558.0813 |
542 | | 558.4153 | [Except for him.] | 559.1156 |
543 | DCB_int_01 | 558.4273 | [So it's just you] guys [here?] | 559.8759 |
544 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 559.5718 | [Mm-hm.] | 560.0920 |
545 | DCB_int_01 | 560.1921 | Now | 560.5162 |
547 | | 560.6763 | are you s- guys still really tight? | 562.2450 |
548 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 562.4370 | [Yes.] | 562.8532 |
549 | DCB_int_01 | 562.5731 | [Like your] family I know you have | 564.0417 |
550 | | 564.5380 | um, | 564.9993 |
552 | | 565.2462 | sons. | 565.8425 |
553 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 565.9305 | [Mm-hm.] | 566.2865 |
554 | DCB_int_01 | 566.1746 | [And] then your | 566.7869 |
555 | | 566.9149 | parents- so you guys are still really really [close?] | 569.2440 |
556 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 569.0758 | [Yes.] | 569.4958 |
557 | DCB_int_01 | 569.5480 | Do you get together for like Sunday dinner, | 571.3528 |
559 | | 571.5568 | football games, do y'all go out? | 573.6618 |
561 | | 573.9218 | Do y'all have any family traditions that y'all still- | 575.9391 |
563 | | 576.3189 | or that y'all are creating or trying to | 577.8696 |
565 | | 578.2317 | keep alive? | 578.9570 |
566 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 580.0164 | Um, | 581.2170 |
568 | | 581.3810 | not so much. | 582.0292 |
570 | | 582.0972 | I mean we do get together, there are things we will do as a family | 585.7949 |
572 | | 586.2429 | um, especially where my children are involved. | 588.6640 |
573 | DCB_int_01 | 588.7080 | Mm-hm. | 589.0587 |
574 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 589.0722 | Um, | 589.9806 |
576 | | 590.2877 | <ts> | 590.3357 |
578 | | 590.5218 | typically Chri- the | 591.6933 |
580 | | 591.8454 | family tradition that we have is Christmas, Christmas is at my house. | 595.0347 |
582 | | 595.2828 | So everyone comes to my house for [Christmas.] | 597.6482 |
583 | DCB_int_01 | 597.0475 | [Because you have the] baby- [I mean they're not] really babies but- | 599.2966 |
584 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 597.9880 | [Because I-] | 598.4133 |
585 | | 599.3166 | Right, | 599.6487 |
587 | | 599.7968 | [because-] | 600.3331 |
588 | DCB_int_01 | 599.8728 | [but you have] the youngest. | 600.9835 |
589 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 601.0293 | Right. | 601.3199 |
590 | DCB_int_01 | 601.6415 | So it's still a big deal for- | 602.9301 |
591 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 603.0702 | [Right it's an] all day Christmas thing in my house. [Yeah.] | 605.7472 |
592 | DCB_int_01 | 603.1941 | [for them.] | 603.5863 |
594 | | 605.5191 | [Gotcha], okay. | 606.4515 |
595 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 606.7917 | [Mm-hm.] | 607.2690 |
596 | DCB_int_01 | 606.8237 | [So let's go back] to high school | 608.0002 |
597 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 608.0403 | [Okay.] | 608.2923 |
598 | DCB_int_01 | 608.1282 | [because] I think that before I | 610.1730 |
599 | | 610.2851 | jump to your family I kind of wanna talk a little bit more about- | 612.8021 |
601 | | 612.9063 | about you. | 613.5225 |
603 | | 614.4068 | So tell me about | 615.2272 |
605 | | 616.1116 | what you remember. | 616.9280 |
607 | | 617.1719 | DC high school is a big deal. Where [you go to high] school, who you associate with, | 621.4178 |
608 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 619.0247 | [Mm-hm.] | 619.5049 |
609 | DCB_int_01 | 621.7219 | that kind of is a | 622.8024 |
611 | | 622.9504 | big part of your identity. | 624.2990 |
613 | | 624.7271 | So | 625.3885 |
615 | | 625.5475 | going to Catholic school, was it a big school, small school, what was your favorite subject, who- | 629.5694 |
617 | | 629.7053 | who did you hang out with? | 630.8738 |
618 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 631.5660 | It was small. | 632.4785 |
620 | | 632.6345 | My graduating class was sixty three. | 634.5434 |
622 | | 635.1636 | And it was all girls school so there were only sixty three in my graduating class and that was in nineteen eighty one. | 639.4773 |
624 | | 640.3057 | So um, | 641.5684 |
626 | | 641.9035 | <ts> | 641.9415 |
628 | | 642.0464 | I | 642.5746 |
630 | | 642.8188 | wasn't really part of the in-crowd. | 644.1835 |
632 | | 644.2633 | I was a dork, I was a geek. | 645.3748 |
634 | | 645.5969 | <laugh> | 647.0325 |
635 | DCB_int_01 | 647.0084 | Which are now the [coolest kids.] | 648.6132 |
636 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 647.6728 | [<laugh>] | 648.0009 |
638 | | 648.1170 | [Which are- are] now the coolest kids you know I | 650.2259 |
639 | | 650.7142 | was | 651.4785 |
641 | | 651.8105 | um, | 652.4732 |
643 | | 652.8990 | you know | 653.0911 |
645 | | 653.2152 | very thin | 654.2557 |
647 | | 654.7918 | and- and young, my birthday doesn't come until December so I was always the youngest | 658.6409 |
649 | | 658.7815 | in- in- | 659.3429 |
651 | | 659.4338 | in my class. | 660.2192 |
653 | | 660.6543 | Um, | 661.1025 |
655 | | 661.2545 | also | 662.0069 |
657 | | 662.2590 | which is very interesting, when I was growing up | 664.7160 |
659 | | 664.9001 | in- even in elementary school | 666.4448 |
661 | | 666.9408 | not so much in high school but more so in elementary school in the neighborhood school, | 670.3464 |
663 | | 671.0307 | um, | 671.4029 |
665 | | 671.8308 | my father's family | 673.0474 |
667 | | 673.8277 | as far as complexion wise starts off | 676.0448 |
669 | | 676.2089 | really light skin and then [as they] | 678.0576 |
670 | DCB_int_01 | 677.6855 | [Mm.] | 678.0217 |
671 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 678.2297 | grow older, | 679.2621 |
673 | | 679.5663 | we get darker. | 680.4826 |
675 | | 680.8147 | So I was extremely light | 682.6636 |
677 | | 682.8237 | when I was a child. | 683.7121 |
679 | | 684.2242 | And | 684.8045 |
681 | | 684.8925 | very skinny. | 685.8169 |
683 | | 686.4371 | And | 687.1134 |
685 | | 687.1894 | um, so I was like an outcast because I was made fun of because I was the white girl at the school. | 691.7114 |
686 | DCB_int_01 | 692.4636 | [In a all black school.] | 693.5010 |
687 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 692.4716 | [Because all the-] | 693.1960 |
688 | | 693.5200 | In a all black school. | 694.4244 |
690 | | 694.7246 | And so I- you know I had a lot of- | 696.8055 |
692 | | 697.2576 | of you know, | 698.2181 |
694 | | 698.5582 | harassment [<laugh>] | 700.1908 |
695 | DCB_int_01 | 699.7626 | [Mm.] | 700.2440 |
696 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 700.4990 | because of that, just because of the whole complexion color thing. | 703.3523 |
698 | | 703.7764 | Um, it wasn't so much a big thing in | 706.1164 |
700 | | 706.2294 | um, | 706.6254 |
702 | | 707.0778 | high school because | 708.3663 |
704 | | 708.8105 | there- it was mixed, there [were] | 710.2831 |
705 | DCB_int_01 | 709.9830 | [Mm-hm.] | 710.4352 |
706 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 710.4272 | all races | 711.8259 |
707 | | 711.9998 | you know a mixture of diverse | 713.7598 |
709 | | 713.9047 | people there, | 714.5930 |
711 | | 714.7970 | so. | 715.1316 |
712 | DCB_int_01 | 715.2651 | So going back do you real- like | 716.6377 |
714 | | 716.7818 | do you- can you remember some moments where you felt that kind of ostracism like you felt like- | 721.5559 |
715 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 722.0681 | Oh it was every [day.] | 723.0121 |
716 | DCB_int_01 | 722.5723 | [Like did you] know- | 723.5568 |
717 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 723.9489 | [<laugh>] | 724.8955 |
718 | DCB_int_01 | 724.0209 | [You know cause at a point] kids like learn racism like at a point when they realize, | 728.5789 |
719 | | 728.9230 | hey wait, | 729.5473 |
721 | | 729.6954 | what? | 730.0996 |
723 | | 730.5715 | Something's happening. | 731.5240 |
725 | | 731.8762 | The- you know [they don't] | 732.6605 |
726 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 732.4564 | [Mm-hm.] | 732.8686 |
727 | DCB_int_01 | 732.9607 | come out necessarily like that but then they have that epiphany. | 735.8060 |
729 | | 737.2624 | What- | 737.7426 |
731 | | 737.8867 | like | 738.1720 |
733 | | 738.2749 | tell me some things that would happen | 739.8309 |
735 | | 740.5078 | once you kind of realized this was happening to you. | 742.8529 |
736 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 743.1129 | Oh it was- it- it- you know it was nothing subtle about it, [cause kids ca-] | 746.1903 |
737 | DCB_int_01 | 745.5820 | [Oh it was pretty- okay.] | 746.3864 |
738 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 746.4783 | kids can be really | 747.5228 |
740 | | 747.8469 | nasty | 748.4432 |
741 | DCB_int_01 | 748.4672 | Mm-hm. | 748.7073 |
742 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 748.6753 | you know. | 748.9554 |
743 | | 749.3835 | So it was nothing subtle about it, I was called the white girl | 751.3982 |
745 | | 751.5924 | you know between the shape of my nose and my complexion and I had really long hair. | 755.4542 |
747 | | 755.8381 | And again my f- | 756.5888 |
749 | | 756.6985 | my father | 757.5429 |
751 | | 757.7030 | making su- My parents | 758.8075 |
753 | | 759.0996 | both grew up very poor. | 760.1436 |
754 | DCB_int_01 | 760.5162 | Mm-hm. | 760.8495 |
755 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 761.2365 | So, | 761.6167 |
757 | | 762.0489 | uh, my father | 763.2595 |
759 | | 764.0977 | made it | 765.3263 |
761 | | 765.7105 | his goal | 766.6147 |
763 | | 766.6908 | that we would do better. | 767.7673 |
765 | | 767.8793 | I would do better. | 768.6997 |
767 | | 769.0317 | You know um, | 769.8264 |
769 | | 769.9562 | so it w- from | 771.0927 |
771 | | 771.6049 | age eight I was getting perms and going to the b- | 773.8699 |
773 | | 774.1780 | sitting all day Saturday getting beauty sal- in the beauty salon. | 777.0273 |
775 | | 777.4513 | Had this long hair, | 778.6999 |
777 | | 778.7839 | long straight hair and like I said with my complexion, with | 781.0621 |
779 | | 781.1809 | the shape of my nose, | 782.2654 |
781 | | 782.7295 | you know kids would call me the white girl, kids would you know- | 785.0025 |
783 | | 785.0986 | I wouldn't get to play with the other kids because | 787.5106 |
785 | | 787.8317 | you know, they made fun of me. | 789.0603 |
786 | DCB_int_01 | 790.1246 | Do you ever feel like it was to your advantage like you- | 792.4976 |
788 | | 792.7057 | Because | 793.1110 |
790 | | 793.5021 | I'm thinking about | 794.2101 |
792 | | 794.3385 | back to the sixties and seventies and | 796.4633 |
794 | | 796.5794 | this ch- city was- | 797.6318 |
796 | | 798.7563 | there was a lot of- like, that was during the Civil [Rights and then as we're] | 801.7336 |
797 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 801.0213 | [Mm-hm.] | 801.9306 |
798 | DCB_int_01 | 801.9176 | getting- | 802.2083 |
799 | | 802.3658 | going through the Civil Rights do you ever feel like it was | 805.1470 |
801 | | 806.3155 | <ts> | 806.3876 |
803 | | 806.4635 | hard beyond high school but then was it ever an advantage like you were able to do something because you looked a certain way? | 813.0944 |
804 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 814.6590 | No. | 815.0644 |
805 | DCB_int_01 | 815.4873 | No you [never got-], okay. | 816.3717 |
806 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 815.8114 | [N-] | 816.1196 |
807 | | 816.3757 | No. | 816.8479 |
809 | | 816.9480 | I think the opposite. | 817.9644 |
810 | DCB_int_01 | 818.4565 | [Really?] | 819.0248 |
811 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 818.9488 | [Yes.] | 819.5754 |
812 | DCB_int_01 | 819.8011 | Why do you say that? | 820.5134 |
813 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 820.6574 | I think the opposite because | 822.5103 |
815 | | 822.6463 | um, | 823.2226 |
817 | | 827.4923 | within my own race, | 828.8110 |
818 | DCB_int_01 | 828.9810 | Mm. [Mm-hm.] | 829.8334 |
819 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 829.5013 | [um], | 830.1999 |
820 | | 830.7177 | being out- being light skinned was the outcast. | 833.3549 |
822 | | 833.7070 | You know, | 834.1672 |
824 | | 834.3593 | it was- it was | 835.8480 |
826 | | 836.1920 | not being | 837.5566 |
828 | | 837.8808 | all in one race or the other. | 839.8095 |
830 | | 840.0457 | Even though | 840.6019 |
832 | | 841.3341 | obviously | 841.8904 |
834 | | 841.9824 | I'm black, I'm African American. | 843.3911 |
836 | | 843.9312 | But it was just m- | 844.7405 |
838 | | 844.8917 | uh, kids making a lot of fun of me and calling me white and making me you know just, | 849.7458 |
840 | | 850.8460 | we won't be bothered with you because you're not dark enough. | 852.9590 |
841 | DCB_int_01 | 853.1191 | Mm. | 853.5071 |
842 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 854.2516 | But then | 854.9838 |
844 | | 855.2881 | um, I started working when I was sixteen. | 857.2290 |
845 | DCB_int_01 | 857.4410 | Mm-hm. | 857.8383 |
846 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 858.3893 | And um, because of the school I went to, | 861.1706 |
848 | | 861.5626 | you know | 861.8067 |
850 | | 861.9348 | my after school job | 863.1994 |
852 | | 863.4275 | was in the government. | 864.6641 |
854 | | 864.9800 | So I started of in the Department of Interior | 867.1089 |
856 | | 867.4171 | then I worked in the /RD-WORK-3/for a while. | 869.2179 |
858 | | 870.6064 | An- and I've noticed all- | 871.9871 |
860 | | 872.6914 | most- | 872.9114 |
862 | | 873.0034 | especially my young | 874.0000 |
864 | | 874.5161 | adult life | 875.4286 |
866 | | 875.7087 | that | 876.2860 |
868 | | 877.3773 | white people are more | 879.2062 |
870 | | 879.5501 | comfortable | 880.2264 |
872 | | 881.3189 | with | 881.7191 |
874 | | 882.0392 | darker skin black people. | 883.1646 |
875 | DCB_int_01 | 884.4803 | Why do you think that is? | 885.4487 |
876 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 885.8529 | It's- I- y- you know, | 887.0294 |
878 | | 887.8257 | I don't really- | 888.6461 |
880 | | 888.9662 | I can't really say. | 889.8466 |
881 | DCB_int_01 | 889.9665 | Mm-hm. | 890.2587 |
882 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 890.2067 | But I mean if it- but it's- it's- it's- | 892.2916 |
883 | | 892.8639 | it's just- | 893.3600 |
885 | | 894.2004 | it's- | 894.6166 |
887 | | 896.0491 | With them it was a little more subtle. | 897.6539 |
889 | | 898.2660 | Um, | 898.8287 |
891 | | 899.1544 | but I saw | 900.3470 |
893 | | 901.3113 | you know | 901.5486 |
895 | | 901.8075 | promotions, saw raises, saw who was treated differently, | 905.3051 |
897 | | 905.6412 | who was treated um, a little more friendly. | 907.9901 |
898 | DCB_int_01 | 909.3508 | I have never heard that. | 910.5414 |
900 | | 910.6352 | And I guess | 911.3756 |
902 | | 911.8758 | because usually I'm thinking | 913.2425 |
904 | | 914.6810 | if you're lighter | 915.7335 |
906 | | 915.8375 | [you're close- yeah.] | 917.2781 |
907 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 915.8495 | [You look m-] | 916.4177 |
909 | | 917.0460 | [Well I] think that's the [problem.] | 918.2985 |
910 | DCB_int_01 | 917.8103 | [And that was-] it was- | 918.6147 |
911 | | 918.7746 | [it was too close to] home, there was too much ambiguity? | 921.1573 |
912 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 918.7907 | [Well maybe that it-] | 919.6230 |
913 | DCB_int_01 | 922.1281 | And so now this is very clear this is | 923.9969 |
915 | | 924.1569 | too nebulous for me right here [so I'm not sure what to do.] | 926.9369 |
916 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 925.6696 | [<laugh>] | 927.4184 |
917 | DCB_int_01 | 927.2023 | [Like] cause she ain't really white, | 928.6350 |
918 | | 928.9270 | but is she really black? So do you feel like there was some of this kind of- | 931.7909 |
919 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 931.8521 | It's like when you have a- | 932.6627 |
921 | | 933.1127 | uh, well maybe I do- maybe I do think- have an opinion about it, | 936.1461 |
923 | | 936.5181 | um, | 936.9248 |
925 | | 937.0784 | that | 937.6146 |
927 | | 938.0988 | if you have a darker skin person | 939.6069 |
929 | | 939.9875 | you know, like you said you know this person | 941.9684 |
931 | | 942.3005 | i- is black, African American. | 943.9565 |
933 | | 944.1814 | Where you have one who's light skin, like I said I was a lot lighter | 946.7414 |
935 | | 947.0305 | in my- up until | 948.0870 |
937 | | 948.3071 | maybe about ten, | 949.1151 |
939 | | 949.3556 | fifteen years ago. | 950.2209 |
941 | | 950.5281 | Then there's that question of | 952.5249 |
942 | DCB_int_01 | 953.0331 | Mm. | 953.3611 |
943 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 953.7055 | Hm. | 954.0935 |
945 | | 954.7378 | Maybe <laugh> you [know.] | 956.3506 |
946 | DCB_int_01 | 956.0024 | [Right.] | 956.3426 |
947 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 956.7227 | You know. | 957.1321 |
949 | | 957.3869 | So um- | 958.3193 |
951 | | 959.3237 | And what's funny is I had | 960.7283 |
953 | | 960.9925 | a girlfriend | 961.8609 |
955 | | 962.2530 | about twenty years ago | 963.5216 |
957 | | 964.2017 | who | 965.1061 |
959 | | 965.7424 | was mix- | 966.3371 |
961 | | 966.4667 | was- she was | 966.9070 |
963 | | 967.2431 | mixed races and | 968.3956 |
965 | | 968.7797 | who went through the same things, we could relate on the same things about how we felt we were treated by different people. | 973.5458 |
966 | DCB_int_01 | 974.4620 | [Hm.] | 974.7221 |
967 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 974.5302 | [Just] because of the way we looked. | 975.7902 |
968 | DCB_int_01 | 976.0028 | And so now thinking [about-] | 977.3193 |
969 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 977.1472 | [Did you] want all this? [<laugh>] | 979.2894 |
970 | DCB_int_01 | 978.1997 | [I did, no this is great.] | 979.5683 |
971 | | 979.6801 | This is great because you have to think [about] | 981.5935 |
972 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 981.3609 | [<laugh>] | 982.3053 |
973 | DCB_int_01 | 982.0852 | [um-] | 982.5775 |
974 | | 983.0657 | We'll talk about [other stuff but-] but sometimes you kind of go off and that- | 985.9950 |
975 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 983.8821 | [Mm-hm.] | 984.4207 |
976 | DCB_int_01 | 986.2149 | that's what makes it exciting, everybody's different cause everybody has different [experiences.] | 989.6045 |
977 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 989.1323 | [Mm-hm.] | 989.5925 |
978 | DCB_int_01 | 990.1006 | And so | 991.0570 |
980 | | 991.5573 | thinking about the city | 992.9746 |
982 | | 993.4501 | in nineteen sixties and seventies, especially | 996.3672 |
984 | | 996.6674 | now we're in the seventies when you're experiencing a lot of this and [we're-] | 999.8128 |
985 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 999.5167 | [Mm-hm.] | 1000.0647 |
986 | DCB_int_01 | 1000.2929 | you know we got the | 1001.2534 |
988 | | 1001.3574 | I'm Black and I'm Proud and we got | 1003.2823 |
990 | | 1003.3982 | chocolate city but we [still have a lot of] racial tension. | 1006.4036 |
991 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1004.7229 | [Mm-hm.] | 1005.3522 |
993 | | 1006.3675 | [Mm-hm.] | 1006.9478 |
994 | DCB_int_01 | 1006.8477 | How do you feel like- | 1008.0041 |
995 | | 1008.1842 | As a high schooler now cause you're very ware- aware, | 1010.7654 |
997 | | 1011.0014 | the city you kind of explore you know you're not just at home you're | 1013.8907 |
999 | | 1013.9948 | in high school now you're working, | 1015.3714 |
1001 | | 1015.9195 | how do you think the city around you | 1018.0553 |
1003 | | 1018.6446 | um- | 1019.1779 |
1005 | | 1019.6490 | How do you feel like your experience was influenced by this? Like at- at work place, you could see that you were having these issues but as you were [navigating through] DC. | 1027.2147 |
1006 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1026.0157 | [Mm-hm.] | 1026.5877 |
1007 | DCB_int_01 | 1027.6444 | um, maybe with your friends or church or whatever you were doing, | 1031.2580 |
1009 | | 1031.5260 | do you feel like you had the- that same kind of, | 1033.5607 |
1011 | | 1034.2191 | uh, she- I'm not really sure if she's white or black let me stay away from her, do you feel like you were embraced? | 1038.5955 |
1012 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1039.0493 | [No.] | 1039.5946 |
1013 | DCB_int_01 | 1039.1212 | [Kind of-] | 1039.4013 |
1014 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1039.8655 | I felt like I was | 1040.8620 |
1016 | | 1041.1021 | always put off. | 1042.2026 |
1017 | DCB_int_01 | 1042.7987 | Really? | 1043.1909 |
1018 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1043.1909 | Yeah. | 1043.6471 |
1019 | | 1044.1234 | Yeah. | 1044.5047 |
1021 | | 1044.9237 | I felt like I was always put off. | 1046.3283 |
1022 | DCB_int_01 | 1046.8165 | Why? | 1047.0806 |
1024 | | 1047.6649 | Like why- like and how like as you- not even just- let's take out | 1050.7462 |
1026 | | 1050.8421 | school from it but [let's look at the other] | 1052.6549 |
1027 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1051.7425 | [Right.] | 1052.3679 |
1028 | DCB_int_01 | 1053.1832 | [arenas.] | 1053.7632 |
1029 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1053.6913 | [Well] | 1054.1166 |
1030 | | 1054.1755 | c- because- b- well- | 1055.3622 |
1032 | | 1056.3685 | Um, | 1056.8488 |
1034 | | 1058.2373 | by other women | 1059.6293 |
1036 | | 1060.0900 | [especially], | 1060.8344 |
1037 | DCB_int_01 | 1060.4262 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 1061.1465 |
1038 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1061.9307 | who were not | 1062.4921 |
1040 | | 1062.6711 | you know, | 1063.0673 |
1042 | | 1063.8917 | extremely put off. | 1065.1402 |
1044 | | 1065.5963 | Um, | 1066.0525 |
1046 | | 1066.2726 | by men, | 1067.0970 |
1048 | | 1067.3811 | it was- | 1067.8854 |
1050 | | 1068.0815 | it was crazy because | 1069.7102 |
1052 | | 1070.4183 | we were still in that- | 1071.5850 |
1054 | | 1071.7629 | that era where | 1073.1796 |
1056 | | 1073.6918 | it was cool | 1074.5322 |
1058 | | 1074.8562 | for | 1075.3685 |
1060 | | 1075.6446 | a dark skin black man | 1076.9892 |
1062 | | 1077.1692 | to have a light skin wife. | 1078.5418 |
1064 | | 1078.7659 | And if you look at a lot of | 1080.6388 |
1066 | | 1081.1629 | um, | 1081.7696 |
1068 | | 1082.0633 | especially the college educated people from the six- | 1084.4963 |
1070 | | 1084.6204 | men from the sixties | 1085.8248 |
1072 | | 1085.9850 | and the seventies, | 1086.7770 |
1074 | | 1087.0334 | they have | 1087.5400 |
1076 | | 1088.3140 | light skin wives. | 1089.2580 |
1078 | | 1090.7190 | And so it was like that thing that was sought after. | 1093.4403 |
1080 | | 1094.0964 | But then on the other hand, | 1095.7170 |
1082 | | 1095.9651 | I faced | 1096.7131 |
1084 | | 1096.8175 | more | 1097.8469 |
1086 | | 1098.9144 | um, | 1099.3810 |
1088 | | 1102.0116 | just put off-ness or more just being pushed away or not being embraced | 1106.4136 |
1090 | | 1106.5454 | by other b- by | 1107.3618 |
1092 | | 1107.7060 | black women. | 1108.2820 |
1093 | DCB_int_01 | 1109.6549 | Mm. | 1109.9935 |
1094 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1110.4392 | And it- and it- and it's crazy, it- it's crazy because | 1112.7642 |
1096 | | 1113.1003 | I could care less. | 1114.3283 |
1097 | DCB_int_01 | 1114.5929 | Mm-hm. | 1114.9130 |
1098 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1115.5894 | But [then,] | 1116.9020 |
1099 | DCB_int_01 | 1116.4818 | [And w- were] most of these women dark skin [or darker skin?] | 1119.1228 |
1100 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1118.3625 | [Yes.] | 1118.9468 |
1101 | | 1119.1509 | Yeah. | 1119.4630 |
1103 | | 1119.7472 | Yeah. | 1119.9513 |
1104 | DCB_int_01 | 1120.8035 | But that was the [whole- that was] during the time of the paper bag test, that was during the time- | 1125.2054 |
1105 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1121.4127 | [Yeah.] | 1121.8329 |
1106 | DCB_int_01 | 1125.4335 | So [all of those] things- so I think in- | 1127.0342 |
1107 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1125.7336 | [Right.] | 1126.1498 |
1108 | DCB_int_01 | 1127.1782 | ma- ha- maybe there's a sense of envy or jealousy because you were light skin? Do you think that may have played into it? | 1132.9528 |
1109 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1133.0077 | <ts> | 1133.0497 |
1110 | DCB_int_01 | 1133.2218 | Or maybe they just was being bitchy and they just didn't [wanna-] | 1135.6378 |
1111 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1135.2536 | [It could] be both. | 1136.1860 |
1112 | DCB_int_01 | 1136.7423 | and they didn't wanna talk [to you.] | 1137.9396 |
1113 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1137.6467 | [It could] be both. | 1138.6134 |
1114 | DCB_int_01 | 1139.4154 | Um, | 1139.9316 |
1116 | | 1140.2837 | <ts> | 1140.3437 |
1118 | | 1140.4237 | Okay [so you were in high-] so- But you didn't feel this at school this was kind of more outside of the walls /of [your s-/ because your school's] a very diverse [place.] | 1146.9987 |
1119 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1141.0159 | [Mm-hm.] | 1141.6572 |
1121 | | 1145.2258 | [Right.] | 1145.7661 |
1123 | | 1146.6904 | [School] was very diverse it was nothing | 1148.3272 |
1124 | | 1148.4752 | but girls. | 1149.2179 |
1126 | | 1149.4474 | [It was a all] girl school and it was very | 1150.8401 |
1127 | DCB_int_01 | 1149.5156 | [Mm-hm.] | 1149.7969 |
1128 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1150.9641 | diverse you know there white, there were black, there were Latinos, | 1153.6134 |
1130 | | 1154.0255 | um, | 1154.4377 |
1132 | | 1154.5136 | everybody was there. | 1155.3941 |
1133 | DCB_int_01 | 1155.3500 | But it didn't feel catty? | 1156.3025 |
1134 | | 1156.5865 | Like it wasn't just | 1157.3265 |
1136 | | 1157.4309 | girl fights all the time, it was- it was not- | 1158.7715 |
1137 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1158.8035 | [No.] | 1159.1997 |
1138 | DCB_int_01 | 1159.0476 | [Was] it really cohesive? | 1160.1716 |
1139 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1160.8163 | It was- it- | 1161.6127 |
1141 | | 1162.5491 | it wasn't- | 1163.8591 |
1143 | | 1165.1901 | I'm not gonna say it was catty it was just | 1167.1990 |
1145 | | 1167.5872 | different | 1168.0264 |
1147 | | 1168.1275 | groups of- | 1168.9598 |
1149 | | 1169.0319 | of girls. | 1169.6642 |
1150 | DCB_int_01 | 1169.7481 | [Mm.] | 1169.9882 |
1151 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1169.7881 | [You had] the girls who were | 1172.3093 |
1152 | | 1172.9933 | uh, | 1173.5416 |
1154 | | 1174.5701 | you know | 1174.9783 |
1156 | | 1175.0983 | I'm not gonna say they were bullies but they were | 1177.0272 |
1157 | DCB_int_01 | 1176.9992 | Mm. | 1177.2473 |
1158 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1177.2153 | you know more masculine who were rough and | 1180.1045 |
1159 | | 1180.3645 | that definitely wasn't me. | 1181.4690 |
1161 | | 1181.8852 | And you know | 1182.5645 |
1163 | | 1182.6546 | I was | 1183.1576 |
1165 | | 1183.3099 | very smart because my father made sure I was smart [<laugh>] you know. | 1187.5317 |
1166 | DCB_int_01 | 1186.5232 | [Mm-hm.] | 1186.9354 |
1167 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1187.8076 | So um, | 1188.7520 |
1169 | | 1189.0482 | you know I- I hung around those people. | 1191.0891 |
1171 | | 1191.3651 | You know. | 1191.6252 |
1173 | | 1191.8773 | And then you had the ones that were just- | 1193.9982 |
1175 | | 1195.3908 | just out doing things that they shouldn't have been doing | 1197.7279 |
1177 | | 1198.0840 | also. | 1198.5762 |
1179 | | 1199.0564 | So yeah I was the l- it was in a little geek squad. | 1201.0333 |
1180 | DCB_int_01 | 1201.2573 | [You were] | 1201.5414 |
1181 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1201.3413 | [<laugh>] | 1201.5214 |
1182 | DCB_int_01 | 1201.6895 | [the little geek squad?] | 1202.4899 |
1183 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1201.7615 | [<laugh>] | 1203.0902 |
1184 | DCB_int_01 | 1202.7420 | [Do you-] do you- did you have a best friend in high school? | 1205.0460 |
1185 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1205.1229 | There were five of us. | 1206.3114 |
1186 | DCB_int_01 | 1206.3714 | Oh tell me about y'all's little | 1207.4759 |
1187 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1207.6990 | <ts> [there were fi-] | 1208.5816 |
1188 | DCB_int_01 | 1208.0642 | [group.] | 1208.4644 |
1189 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1208.6636 | there- there were just five of us and- | 1209.9470 |
1191 | | 1210.0318 | and there was nothing really | 1211.4534 |
1193 | | 1212.3660 | special about us it was just | 1214.2107 |
1195 | | 1214.7589 | five- it was like maybe one or two- | 1216.6403 |
1197 | | 1216.9880 | one I knew before I got there. | 1218.4487 |
1198 | DCB_int_01 | 1218.6246 | Mm-hm. | 1218.9326 |
1199 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1219.5650 | So we- | 1220.1613 |
1201 | | 1220.2374 | we- you know [we were /then-/] | 1221.3987 |
1202 | DCB_int_01 | 1220.8095 | [How'd you know her?] | 1221.4178 |
1203 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1221.8540 | I met her at | 1223.6228 |
1205 | | 1223.9788 | a summer camp that I had been [to] | 1225.7757 |
1206 | DCB_int_01 | 1225.4995 | [Hm.] | 1225.6836 |
1207 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1225.9277 | in Virginia in the mountains. | 1227.4645 |
1209 | | 1228.0486 | And uh, | 1228.7648 |
1211 | | 1228.9009 | so we ended up at the same high school together so we instantly | 1232.0103 |
1213 | | 1232.2704 | clicked | 1232.5705 |
1215 | | 1232.6745 | because we already [knew each other.] | 1233.9838 |
1216 | DCB_int_01 | 1233.2348 | [Mm-hm.] | 1233.9231 |
1217 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1234.3153 | And then I think maybe I met one or two others or she met- and so the f- | 1238.1489 |
1219 | | 1238.3129 | the five of us would be really f- | 1239.5694 |
1221 | | 1239.7655 | close [friends.] | 1240.5619 |
1222 | DCB_int_01 | 1240.3658 | [Do you] remember doing a lot of things with them together as a group? Or | 1243.6761 |
1223 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1243.9272 | [Just] during school. | 1244.9939 |
1224 | DCB_int_01 | 1243.9352 | [did y'all-] | 1244.2033 |
1225 | | 1245.1517 | Just hanging out [at school.] | 1246.1637 |
1226 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1245.7840 | [Yeah] just during school because | 1247.5528 |
1227 | | 1247.6408 | again, | 1248.0808 |
1229 | | 1248.1651 | I lived in Deanwood, | 1249.1695 |
1231 | | 1249.3696 | school was downtown. | 1250.4181 |
1233 | | 1251.0421 | Cause [school was] at- /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was at Ninth and G. | 1253.7514 |
1234 | DCB_int_01 | 1251.2822 | [Gotcha.] | 1251.5876 |
1235 | | 1254.2596 | [Okay.] | 1254.5998 |
1236 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1254.5276 | [So] all of us had to catch the Metro bus to school. | 1257.4570 |
1237 | | 1257.9011 | Um, and also while I was in high school is when | 1260.5263 |
1239 | | 1260.6462 | Metrorail opened up. | 1261.7547 |
1240 | DCB_int_01 | 1261.9828 | Mm-hm. | 1262.4310 |
1241 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1262.4911 | So um- | 1263.3875 |
1243 | | 1263.7635 | <ts> | 1263.8436 |
1245 | | 1264.0197 | so it was like we caught the subway and the bus to school so we all lived in different areas. | 1268.3056 |
1246 | DCB_int_01 | 1268.5575 | Gotcha okay [so it wasn't] like y'all just [hung out around] town doing [stuff?] | 1272.4593 |
1247 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1269.1658 | [So-] | 1269.5498 |
1249 | | 1270.5584 | [Hung out at-] | 1271.2708 |
1251 | | 1272.1512 | [No] you know after school we- since we were downtown we would hang out | 1275.1524 |
1252 | | 1275.5045 | some there I remember we used to go to Kemp Mill Records all the time | 1278.1137 |
1254 | | 1278.4859 | cause it was right up the street. | 1279.5463 |
1256 | | 1280.0703 | Um, it was a record store. | 1281.0028 |
1258 | | 1281.3069 | <ts> And they always played music there. | 1283.4159 |
1260 | | 1283.5519 | So we'd go in there for a few minutes or we'd go to- it was- used to be called | 1287.1895 |
1262 | | 1287.4855 | People's Drug Store. | 1288.3499 |
1263 | DCB_int_01 | 1288.4019 | [Mm-hm.] | 1288.7406 |
1264 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1288.5580 | [Now] it's [CVS it was] People- we'd /whole/ hang at the drug store. | 1291.2700 |
1265 | DCB_int_01 | 1289.3102 | [Mm-hm.] | 1289.6824 |
1266 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1291.6473 | Um, so it would be | 1292.3757 |
1268 | | 1292.5277 | things like that, in the morning we might go to the waffle house cause it was | 1295.0128 |
1270 | | 1295.1248 | couple of waffle houses down there and get french fries. | 1297.9620 |
1271 | DCB_int_01 | 1298.7823 | For [breakfast?] | 1299.4786 |
1272 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1299.1624 | [For breakfast.] <laugh> | 1301.0753 |
1273 | DCB_int_01 | 1301.3394 | Did [your] dad let you do a lot of like | 1303.0082 |
1274 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1301.4595 | [<laugh>] | 1301.6328 |
1275 | DCB_int_01 | 1303.3521 | going out | 1304.0468 |
1277 | | 1304.1401 | and hanging out with your friends outside of just | 1306.0734 |
1279 | | 1306.1894 | like right after school like, | 1307.3020 |
1280 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1307.4699 | [N-] | 1307.7700 |
1281 | DCB_int_01 | 1307.5660 | [it's a] Saturday, can I go hang out with my friends? | 1309.5109 |
1282 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1309.8830 | I had to be- | 1311.6478 |
1284 | | 1313.1763 | it had to be known where I was going, | 1315.2256 |
1286 | | 1315.4212 | when I'd be back, | 1316.5698 |
1288 | | 1316.6488 | when- it was very controlled. | 1318.2185 |
1289 | DCB_int_01 | 1318.2545 | Mm-hm. | 1318.5627 |
1290 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1318.5427 | It was very controlled, yeah. | 1320.2515 |
1291 | DCB_int_01 | 1320.3953 | Did you ever have one of those just | 1321.6999 |
1293 | | 1321.7879 | wild child moments like I'm'a just | 1323.4532 |
1295 | | 1324.0130 | buck the system because I'm'a just | 1325.5617 |
1297 | | 1325.7696 | be a kid and I'm'a do what I wanna do? | 1327.4543 |
1298 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1328.0306 | Not so much. | 1328.9070 |
1300 | | 1329.1871 | I had maybe a couple but not really wild. | 1331.5402 |
1301 | DCB_int_01 | 1332.0883 | Gimme what do you feel like was [your kind] of rebellious- | 1335.0816 |
1302 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1333.5929 | [So-] | 1333.8810 |
1303 | DCB_int_01 | 1335.1576 | like what did you do in high school that you were like, ooh, | 1337.8067 |
1305 | | 1337.9108 | if my parents only knew. I mean back then it was a big deal, now [it probably] don't even matter but- | 1342.2727 |
1306 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1340.9320 | [Right.] | 1341.3963 |
1307 | | 1342.3247 | Right. | 1342.5820 |
1309 | | 1342.9008 | Like uh, if my parents knew- | 1344.7537 |
1311 | | 1345.7780 | So our- our um, | 1347.0426 |
1313 | | 1347.3148 | brother school | 1348.0601 |
1315 | | 1350.7762 | was uh- we considered our brother school Gonzaga even [though it] wasn't. | 1354.2217 |
1316 | DCB_int_01 | 1353.4934 | [Mm-hm.] | 1353.9616 |
1317 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1354.5377 | Notre Dame was there but we would | 1355.9755 |
1319 | | 1356.0675 | like steal their guys. [<laugh>] | 1358.4841 |
1320 | DCB_int_01 | 1358.2800 | [And they] went with it. | 1358.9443 |
1321 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1358.9203 | You know. | 1359.5496 |
1322 | | 1359.8319 | So we would um, | 1360.7919 |
1324 | | 1361.0965 | /I- and I would-/ I did a lot of after school activities like drama club and- and in the [choir and that kind of stuff.] | 1366.2908 |
1325 | DCB_int_01 | 1365.2503 | [That doesn't surprise me.] | 1366.2636 |
1326 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1366.8549 | And um, | 1367.7029 |
1328 | | 1368.1794 | s- and it was a way not to go home | 1369.6161 |
1329 | DCB_int_01 | 1369.7161 | [Mm-hm.] | 1370.0803 |
1330 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1369.8682 | [before] I started working. | 1370.9047 |
1331 | DCB_int_01 | 1370.9086 | Right. | 1371.1487 |
1332 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1371.5168 | And so um, there was this drama club that I was in after school and then the guys from | 1377.0913 |
1334 | | 1377.4912 | Gonzaga would- | 1378.3076 |
1336 | | 1378.5998 | would come over | 1379.3931 |
1338 | | 1379.6442 | to- | 1380.0764 |
1340 | | 1380.2885 | Like we did a- | 1380.8112 |
1342 | | 1381.0209 | a production of | 1382.4335 |
1344 | | 1383.0776 | um, | 1383.5978 |
1346 | | 1383.7739 | <ts> West Side Story. | 1384.6543 |
1347 | DCB_int_01 | 1384.8864 | Mm-hm. | 1385.4037 |
1348 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1385.4627 | So- | 1386.0787 |
1350 | | 1386.3390 | and yes I was Maria. | 1387.3995 |
1351 | DCB_int_01 | 1387.3554 | Mm-hm. | 1387.7556 |
1352 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1388.0077 | Of course. <laugh> | 1389.8006 |
1354 | | 1390.1847 | [/unintelligible/] | 1391.3053 |
1355 | DCB_int_01 | 1390.2166 | [I'm not surprised.] | 1391.2571 |
1356 | | 1391.5252 | [I'm not surprised.] | 1392.4386 |
1357 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1391.5733 | [And so then we know that] | 1392.5199 |
1358 | | 1392.6938 | to- f- for the guy roles we'd have guys from Gonzaga come in or whatever. | 1395.8791 |
1360 | | 1396.2313 | And so it would be cool | 1397.5433 |
1362 | | 1397.7199 | you know | 1398.0560 |
1364 | | 1398.2601 | my fa- if my parents only knew I'm riding the subway with these boys, | 1402.1458 |
1366 | | 1402.5459 | just riding | 1403.3102 |
1368 | | 1403.7783 | to one- | 1404.3185 |
1370 | | 1404.4426 | to the end of the line, coming back. | 1405.9073 |
1372 | | 1406.1514 | Cause back then it was only two lines. | 1407.9794 |
1374 | | 1408.2204 | It was the red line, | 1409.2168 |
1376 | | 1409.5368 | <ts> and then there was the | 1410.5675 |
1378 | | 1410.8534 | orange | 1411.6058 |
1380 | | 1411.7057 | slash blue [line.] | 1412.7782 |
1381 | DCB_int_01 | 1412.3540 | [Bl- mm-hm.] | 1413.0143 |
1382 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1413.1584 | And I would just ride the orange line back and forth, back and forth just hanging out with boys. | 1417.3011 |
1384 | | 1417.8043 | You know, my father would have a fit if he knew that. [<laugh>] | 1421.3338 |
1385 | DCB_int_01 | 1421.1097 | [And see-] | 1421.4739 |
1386 | | 1421.5459 | and see but that and- | 1422.7024 |
1388 | | 1422.8222 | and it's so funny like | 1423.8707 |
1390 | | 1423.9788 | c- because you're like the girls who kind of did their- | 1426.5960 |
1392 | | 1427.3202 | the whatever they were doing the way out stuff, and then hearing like | 1430.5669 |
1394 | | 1430.8817 | you know, I was riding up and down with the boys, like, | 1433.1656 |
1396 | | 1433.6189 | you know it's so funny how our /perceptin-/ our perception of what's like | 1437.2926 |
1398 | | 1437.5326 | being the [bad girl-] | 1438.7971 |
1399 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1438.0408 | [Ba-] | 1438.2289 |
1401 | | 1438.3249 | [Exactly] it's totally different. | 1440.1338 |
1402 | DCB_int_01 | 1440.1537 | Mm-hm. | 1440.5018 |
1403 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1440.4618 | [Now.] | 1440.7939 |
1404 | DCB_int_01 | 1440.5859 | [Because] now, | 1441.5703 |
1405 | | 1441.8384 | you know, I heard of something on the radio this morning I | 1443.8873 |
1407 | | 1444.0473 | could've | 1444.4540 |
1409 | | 1444.7076 | died, like this | 1445.8001 |
1411 | | 1446.1321 | boy's talking about how he's gonna have sex with his girl for the first time. | 1449.3655 |
1413 | | 1449.7057 | I was like, w- | 1450.3660 |
1415 | | 1450.4460 | this is why we have- | 1451.8546 |
1417 | | 1452.1147 | I emailed /RD-NAME-3/ I said, | 1453.2272 |
1419 | | 1453.5354 | this is why /RD-NAME-2/ is so important. | 1454.9559 |
1420 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1455.0519 | Mm-hm. | 1455.5121 |
1421 | DCB_int_01 | 1455.6362 | Because we have stuff like this playing on the radio. | 1457.6291 |
1422 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1457.6169 | Mm-hm. | 1458.0409 |
1423 | DCB_int_01 | 1458.6253 | Those were the [days.] | 1459.5053 |
1424 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1459.3697 | [Mm-hm.] | 1460.0060 |
1425 | DCB_int_01 | 1459.5858 | [And I wasn't] born, | 1460.4942 |
1426 | | 1460.7103 | but | 1461.0104 |
1428 | | 1461.5147 | hearing stories I- I | 1463.0514 |
1430 | | 1463.3474 | know that those were the days. | 1464.6040 |
1431 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1464.5600 | Yeah. | 1464.9601 |
1432 | | 1465.1122 | For me being rebellious was | 1467.1490 |
1434 | | 1467.4652 | I had a little boom box- | 1468.8759 |
1436 | | 1469.8222 | you know I had a little boom box, playing it on the metro bus. | 1472.5555 |
1438 | | 1472.9475 | And that was like taboo back then, you just didn't do that. | 1475.4326 |
1439 | DCB_int_01 | 1475.5244 | [Mm-hm.] | 1476.0327 |
1440 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1475.7605 | [You know] and for me- | 1476.8170 |
1441 | | 1477.1812 | for me it was- | 1478.1176 |
1443 | | 1478.2377 | it was rebellious for me one, s- I'm sitting in the back of the bus, | 1481.1709 |
1445 | | 1481.3190 | which | 1481.6832 |
1447 | | 1482.0673 | wasn't | 1482.5447 |
1449 | | 1482.6636 | where I was supposed to be. | 1484.0482 |
1450 | DCB_int_01 | 1484.3603 | Mm-hm. | 1484.6936 |
1451 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1484.6152 | <ts> | 1484.6532 |
1452 | | 1484.7157 | And then I'm- I'm blasting music. | 1486.5852 |
1454 | | 1486.7531 | You know, and it was just like, yeah that's me I'm blasting music back here, I'm cool. | 1490.9351 |
1456 | | 1491.5872 | And I wasn't, but now that's nothing. | 1493.6322 |
1457 | DCB_int_01 | 1493.7763 | Right. | 1494.1004 |
1458 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1494.1363 | But back then you could get- you would- | 1495.4609 |
1460 | | 1495.5409 | you would get put off the bus | 1497.3858 |
1462 | | 1498.0860 | for something like that. | 1498.8303 |
1463 | DCB_int_01 | 1499.5386 | And see now we don't. | 1500.4679 |
1464 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1500.5750 | Yeah. | 1500.8952 |
1465 | DCB_int_01 | 1501.3074 | So think about- I want you to kind of- let's um- | 1503.4964 |
1467 | | 1505.4851 | So you graduated. | 1506.4584 |
1468 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1506.8537 | Yes. | 1507.3219 |
1469 | DCB_int_01 | 1508.1103 | <ts> | 1508.1983 |
1471 | | 1508.2944 | And | 1509.3667 |
1473 | | 1509.5348 | you said goodbye to all your little friends, or maybe not. | 1512.1440 |
1475 | | 1512.3159 | Do you still keep in contact with them? | 1513.4625 |
1476 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1514.3088 | No. | 1514.6289 |
1477 | DCB_int_01 | 1514.6809 | [No?] | 1514.9249 |
1478 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1514.7530 | [Not] r- not [so much.] | 1515.7170 |
1479 | DCB_int_01 | 1515.2612 | [Oh yeah /you said/] goodbye. | 1516.1176 |
1480 | | 1516.4737 | So how did you- | 1517.2900 |
1482 | | 1517.3901 | From high school did you go straight to | 1518.9988 |
1484 | | 1519.1149 | uh, [college?] | 1519.8232 |
1485 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1519.6991 | [Mm-hm.] | 1520.0993 |
1486 | DCB_int_01 | 1520.2713 | And so what was that like when you left, right? Because you had been- | 1523.5646 |
1487 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1523.7728 | Oh I w- | 1524.3651 |
1489 | | 1524.4531 | I went wild. | 1525.1694 |
1491 | | 1525.4815 | I went wild I was seventeen, | 1526.9942 |
1493 | | 1527.5144 | I came from this very protective home, | 1529.5371 |
1495 | | 1530.0273 | um, | 1530.3154 |
1497 | | 1530.3835 | you know I came from a home where I had stuff and you know when I was sixteen I got my license I had | 1535.3135 |
1499 | | 1535.4696 | open access to a car but I still had to be home | 1538.3829 |
1500 | DCB_int_01 | 1538.4269 | [Mm-hm.] | 1538.8111 |
1501 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1538.7231 | [at] a certain [time, I still /had-/] | 1540.4519 |
1502 | DCB_int_01 | 1539.2433 | [It was open as much as it] was | 1540.8359 |
1503 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1541.2761 | [Y- yeah.] | 1542.0365 |
1504 | DCB_int_01 | 1541.2841 | [closed.] | 1541.9364 |
1505 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1542.8689 | <ts> | 1542.9209 |
1507 | | 1542.9909 | So, | 1543.4816 |
1509 | | 1543.7303 | here I am, | 1544.3586 |
1511 | | 1544.6147 | seventeen, | 1545.4240 |
1513 | | 1548.0951 | without my parents. | 1549.1674 |
1515 | | 1550.4320 | in down- /when/ the city of Richmond. | 1552.1766 |
1517 | | 1554.3656 | They put me in a dorm room | 1555.7702 |
1519 | | 1556.0584 | and they put me in a triple. | 1557.2229 |
1521 | | 1557.4469 | Now dorm rooms are nothing like they were back then it was- | 1559.9080 |
1523 | | 1560.0361 | it was like | 1561.0726 |
1525 | | 1561.4725 | a room, | 1562.0568 |
1527 | | 1562.1488 | you had a roommate and then there was a centralized bathroom. | 1564.9021 |
1529 | | 1565.3383 | Well they put me, | 1566.2107 |
1531 | | 1566.4068 | an only child | 1567.2671 |
1533 | | 1567.7033 | in a triple. | 1568.2835 |
1535 | | 1568.7116 | [<laugh>] | 1573.1276 |
1536 | DCB_int_01 | 1570.5084 | [Mm.] | 1570.9046 |
1538 | | 1572.0852 | [Mm-hm.] | 1572.7905 |
1539 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1573.5097 | One of my roommates smoked weed all the time, | 1575.9227 |
1541 | | 1576.8591 | the other one drank all the time. [<laugh> Here's me.] <laugh> | 1582.3294 |
1542 | DCB_int_01 | 1579.5041 | [And here's goody goody two shoes in the middle.] | 1581.2001 |
1544 | | 1582.0453 | [Okay, so-] | 1582.9377 |
1545 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1582.7016 | [<laugh>] | 1584.9185 |
1546 | DCB_int_01 | 1583.1338 | [Mm.] | 1583.6445 |
1548 | | 1584.6384 | [Which one] did you decide to- did you decide to go either of those routes? | 1587.4717 |
1549 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1587.4666 | <ts> | 1587.5166 |
1550 | | 1587.6807 | W- and here's funny, | 1588.7311 |
1552 | | 1589.0363 | I um- | 1589.5696 |
1554 | | 1590.2807 | um, | 1590.7890 |
1556 | | 1590.8610 | I ended up being better friends with | 1592.8099 |
1558 | | 1592.8938 | I- | 1593.0059 |
1560 | | 1593.1659 | one- | 1593.5941 |
1562 | | 1593.7222 | one girl from Hampton, she w- | 1595.1028 |
1564 | | 1595.2669 | the black girl | 1595.8392 |
1566 | | 1595.9431 | that was smoking weed all the time, the other one was white | 1598.2082 |
1568 | | 1598.4722 | she was from Poughkeepsie, New York. | 1599.9327 |
1569 | DCB_int_01 | 1600.2168 | Mm-hm. | 1600.5330 |
1570 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1600.9452 | And | 1601.5334 |
1572 | | 1602.6059 | I think that | 1603.6499 |
1574 | | 1604.0905 | um, the one from Hampton was- | 1605.7993 |
1576 | | 1605.9114 | got depressed because she was away from home and you know she [just] spent her time | 1610.2372 |
1577 | DCB_int_01 | 1609.2607 | [Mm.] | 1609.4846 |
1578 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1610.3331 | sitting on her bed looking out the window getting high. | 1612.4980 |
1580 | | 1613.6426 | And so she- she wasn't really interacting with us a lot, she would but | 1617.3922 |
1582 | | 1617.9123 | it was always me and the other one going some place and | 1620.2574 |
1584 | | 1620.4535 | [and you know] hanging out and we had a couple classes together and it was just yeah. | 1624.5231 |
1585 | DCB_int_01 | 1620.5641 | [Mm.] | 1621.0308 |
1586 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1624.8232 | So she and I | 1625.6076 |
1588 | | 1626.1597 | the other girl from New York | 1627.1162 |
1590 | | 1627.4924 | we [hung out a lot.] | 1628.2990 |
1591 | DCB_int_01 | 1627.6164 | [Y'all got close? Mm-hm.] | 1628.8977 |
1592 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1628.6209 | [Yeah.] | 1628.9690 |
1593 | DCB_int_01 | 1629.7173 | And so what else did you- | 1631.3740 |
1595 | | 1631.7341 | /?/ | 1632.0742 |
1597 | | 1632.1863 | Okay that was your freshman year, went [crazy.] | 1634.2152 |
1598 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1633.6870 | [Mm-hm.] | 1634.1616 |
1599 | | 1634.6033 | I did, I went crazy. | 1635.8606 |
1601 | | 1636.2520 | Um, I got introduced to the world of sororities and fraternities. | 1639.3894 |
1602 | DCB_int_01 | 1639.3373 | Mm-hm, that's what I was just about to [ask.] | 1640.9300 |
1603 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1640.8419 | [So] I became a Sigma Dove | 1643.0828 |
1604 | DCB_int_01 | 1643.1749 | [Mm-hm.] | 1643.5775 |
1605 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1643.3229 | [as a] freshman. | 1644.0993 |
1606 | | 1644.4675 | I did a- | 1644.8568 |
1608 | | 1645.0958 | I'm- | 1645.3359 |
1610 | | 1645.7641 | One thing that I've done constantly- | 1647.7730 |
1612 | | 1648.1449 | consistently in my life | 1649.5776 |
1614 | | 1649.7137 | is | 1650.1456 |
1616 | | 1650.4420 | I'm the first to do a lot of [things.] | 1652.4829 |
1617 | DCB_int_01 | 1652.2628 | [Mm-hm.] | 1652.6255 |
1618 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1653.0911 | Um, | 1653.4511 |
1620 | | 1653.8674 | being | 1654.5918 |
1622 | | 1654.9158 | um, | 1655.2880 |
1624 | | 1655.4281 | a Sigma Dove the sweethearts of the Sigma, | 1657.1809 |
1626 | | 1657.5410 | freshman didn't do that. | 1658.4655 |
1628 | | 1659.3938 | I was a freshman | 1660.1871 |
1630 | | 1660.4301 | and I did it. | 1660.9624 |
1632 | | 1661.2945 | You know even in my | 1662.6111 |
1634 | | 1662.7992 | career, in my job, I've been the first to do a lot of things. | 1665.9726 |
1636 | | 1666.3246 | So um, so I | 1667.6172 |
1638 | | 1667.7252 | became a Sigma Dove, was hanging out with the Sigmas , | 1670.2424 |
1640 | | 1670.6665 | and uh, | 1671.6708 |
1642 | | 1671.7462 | going to all the parties and just having a good time. | 1674.8562 |
1644 | | 1675.8006 | My f- | 1676.5930 |
1646 | | 1677.0532 | first- | 1677.6732 |
1648 | | 1678.0175 | <laugh> | 1678.7058 |
1650 | | 1679.1901 | my first | 1680.2826 |
1652 | | 1680.3826 | um, | 1680.9933 |
1654 | | 1682.0913 | <ts> | 1682.1713 |
1656 | | 1682.4835 | semester- | 1683.3399 |
1658 | | 1684.3442 | Now we coming from somebody who in high school in Catholic school made straight A's. | 1688.1420 |
1659 | DCB_int_01 | 1688.1777 | Mm-hm. | 1688.8457 |
1660 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1688.9981 | My grades | 1690.4061 |
1662 | | 1690.6469 | my first semester, | 1691.8154 |
1664 | | 1692.1476 | two B's, two D's, two F's. | 1694.0563 |
1665 | DCB_int_01 | 1694.6446 | Okay. | 1695.2926 |
1666 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1695.3328 | [Yeah.] | 1695.7861 |
1667 | DCB_int_01 | 1695.4328 | [How was] Daddy? | 1696.1212 |
1668 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1696.4293 | Mm. | 1697.4538 |
1670 | | 1697.6419 | He was actually very calm about it. | 1699.8549 |
1671 | DCB_int_01 | 1700.2630 | [Mm.] | 1700.7752 |
1672 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1700.3950 | [Very] calm about it. | 1701.7764 |
1673 | | 1702.1636 | Um, he had a talk with me | 1704.0525 |
1675 | | 1704.6247 | and um, and- and my father's not a calm person | 1707.9701 |
1677 | | 1708.1862 | or rational person, there were a couple of things he was- he would be calm or rational about, | 1712.2934 |
1679 | | 1713.0364 | but um, he just | 1714.0408 |
1681 | | 1714.8451 | brought the grades into my room, | 1716.1777 |
1683 | | 1717.0220 | and said | 1717.5142 |
1685 | | 1717.6703 | you know, it's costing us a lot of money | 1719.0629 |
1687 | | 1719.3149 | to send you to school. | 1720.0576 |
1688 | DCB_int_01 | 1720.2193 | Mm-hm. | 1720.5595 |
1689 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1720.7076 | And I expect better. | 1721.7160 |
1691 | | 1722.5523 | I said, | 1722.8523 |
1693 | | 1723.0084 | okay. | 1723.3510 |
1695 | | 1723.8408 | And so I did better. | 1724.6674 |
1697 | | 1724.9813 | Because I knew <laugh> | 1726.4820 |
1698 | DCB_int_01 | 1726.4300 | That | 1726.7781 |
1699 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1726.7701 | I had to [do better.] | 1727.8666 |
1700 | DCB_int_01 | 1727.3344 | [Mm-hm.] | 1727.7786 |
1701 | | 1728.1785 | [Otherwise you weren't gonna be there.] | 1729.3252 |
1702 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1728.3506 | [But it was just like-] | 1729.3431 |
1703 | | 1729.4751 | Right it was- or you know- | 1730.9478 |
1705 | | 1731.0478 | /?/ | 1731.1559 |
1707 | | 1731.2559 | or the other thing me- I had to come back [home if I] didn't, I couldn't come back home. | 1734.4226 |
1708 | DCB_int_01 | 1732.8566 | [Mm-hm.] | 1733.3446 |
1709 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1735.0576 | So um, yeah so that was pretty funny. | 1736.9945 |
1711 | | 1737.1944 | That- And I straightened up and did better. | 1738.9931 |
1713 | | 1739.1313 | But it was like seventeen, | 1740.6127 |
1715 | | 1741.0120 | in a new city, | 1741.8844 |
1717 | | 1742.1805 | by myself, | 1743.1329 |
1719 | | 1743.4491 | unsupervised, | 1744.4175 |
1721 | | 1744.7457 | I was all over the place. | 1745.8382 |
1723 | | 1746.1462 | [<laugh>] | 1748.0431 |
1724 | DCB_int_01 | 1747.4508 | [What do you feel like] was your | 1748.6615 |
1725 | | 1749.0433 | um- | 1749.5716 |
1727 | | 1749.9277 | So okay that wa- Wait, your freshman year you were Sigma Dove and [then] | 1752.9353 |
1728 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1752.6850 | [Mm-hm.] | 1753.4890 |
1729 | DCB_int_01 | 1753.0372 | [when'd you become-] | 1753.9696 |
1730 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1754.0614 | A Zeta? | 1754.5376 |
1731 | DCB_int_01 | 1754.5496 | Mm-hm. | 1754.8698 |
1732 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1755.0939 | In my junior year. | 1755.8102 |
1733 | DCB_int_01 | 1755.9703 | Okay. | 1756.2769 |
1734 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1756.5385 | Yeah. | 1756.8772 |
1735 | DCB_int_01 | 1756.9387 | Um, so | 1757.9432 |
1737 | | 1758.2513 | how was like your sophomore year? Was it shaped by kind of your experience with the- | 1761.8369 |
1739 | | 1762.2050 | with the Sigmas [or was it-] | 1763.2010 |
1740 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1762.7493 | [It was.] | 1763.4016 |
1741 | DCB_int_01 | 1763.4375 | was it still different? Were you s- | 1764.8741 |
1743 | | 1765.1863 | finding something else? | 1766.5629 |
1745 | | 1767.1511 | Like | 1767.3591 |
1746 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1767.3392 | [No.] | 1767.7033 |
1747 | DCB_int_01 | 1767.4952 | [other] activities or was that your pretty much [your main-] | 1769.9161 |
1748 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1769.3640 | [That was it.] | 1770.1053 |
1749 | | 1770.4645 | That was it. | 1771.0365 |
1751 | | 1771.2807 | Yeah. | 1771.5929 |
1753 | | 1772.0251 | Yeah I couldn't- my parents did not want me to work, they wanted me to focus on school | 1775.3785 |
1755 | | 1775.5506 | because you know I was like I said the first person in my s- in my family to go to college so I had to do well. | 1779.8365 |
1756 | DCB_int_01 | 1780.0804 | Right. | 1780.3886 |
1757 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1780.7888 | And my father was paying for it so I had to do well. | 1782.8368 |
1759 | | 1783.7499 | So um, | 1784.6663 |
1761 | | 1784.7374 | all in | 1785.1515 |
1763 | | 1785.2276 | the activities I did they were with the D- with the Doves. | 1787.6546 |
1765 | | 1787.7676 | I was a Sigma Dove and I did | 1789.1643 |
1767 | | 1789.4324 | pretty much everything with them. | 1790.4809 |
1768 | DCB_int_01 | 1791.3892 | And so then you became | 1793.1340 |
1770 | | 1793.2699 | a Zeta. Were- [how- were your] parents excited about that or | 1795.9672 |
1771 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1793.9623 | [Uh-huh.] | 1794.4145 |
1772 | DCB_int_01 | 1796.1873 | did they not really understand it? W- How was that | 1798.4841 |
1773 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1798.7242 | [My father] understood it more than my mother because by then my father was at Gallaudet. | 1802.8501 |
1774 | DCB_int_01 | 1798.8123 | [kind of telling-] | 1799.4722 |
1775 | | 1803.1982 | Okay [so he was in] the college life, [or] | 1805.2870 |
1776 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1803.5183 | [So-] | 1804.1506 |
1778 | | 1805.0029 | [Ri- s- right.] | 1806.4555 |
1779 | DCB_int_01 | 1805.3710 | [seeing college around] him. | 1806.6076 |
1780 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1806.7597 | So when I | 1807.9202 |
1782 | | 1808.1482 | was allowed to come home because you had to ask to come home when you were pledging, cause pledging back then was a lot different than it is now. | 1814.2629 |
1784 | | 1814.6830 | Um, but I was allowed to come home for Thanksgiving | 1816.8040 |
1786 | | 1817.1040 | and um, for a couple of days then I had to go back, | 1819.5026 |
1788 | | 1819.9692 | but back then | 1820.8856 |
1790 | | 1820.9736 | you know, | 1821.3056 |
1792 | | 1821.4659 | we all wore trenchcoats with our little | 1823.3587 |
1794 | | 1823.8388 | emblem on our jacket and a certain hat and a certain way we had to dress and so when I came home | 1828.7609 |
1796 | | 1829.3131 | and | 1829.8134 |
1798 | | 1830.0854 | I was given an assignment, | 1831.3760 |
1800 | | 1831.6941 | cause I was on line | 1832.6426 |
1802 | | 1832.7586 | when I came home, | 1833.3829 |
1804 | | 1833.5468 | [that's what- that's what it was, I was] on line when I came home, | 1835.7589 |
1805 | DCB_int_01 | 1833.5629 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 1834.6233 |
1806 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1836.2641 | and um, | 1836.9643 |
1808 | | 1837.1164 | they gave me an assignment I had to go to- to the Zeta headquarters and so I had to- | 1840.6260 |
1810 | | 1840.9379 | to dress like a Archonian and- | 1842.4289 |
1812 | | 1843.5614 | and um, | 1844.3058 |
1814 | | 1844.5995 | and go there, and when I was walking out the door | 1846.7565 |
1816 | | 1847.0685 | my mother's like, why are you dressed like that? My father's like, I've seen them dressed like that at work, when he's at work. | 1852.9711 |
1818 | | 1853.3113 | So um, | 1854.1086 |
1820 | | 1854.2436 | yeah. | 1854.5277 |
1822 | | 1854.6678 | It wa- they were cool, they were- | 1856.2164 |
1824 | | 1856.4525 | they didn't have any problems putting up the funds for it or whatever I needed to do it because that meant that- | 1861.3988 |
1826 | | 1862.0948 | They saw that as | 1862.8548 |
1828 | | 1863.2834 | being- | 1863.5875 |
1830 | | 1863.7836 | me being more successful. | 1865.0802 |
1832 | | 1866.0525 | [/For them/] | 1866.4767 |
1833 | DCB_int_01 | 1866.1646 | [Mm, so for] them- That's so interesting because a lot of parent- | 1868.6858 |
1834 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1866.6088 | [so.] | 1866.9450 |
1835 | DCB_int_01 | 1868.7857 | You know, | 1869.1739 |
1837 | | 1869.4740 | if you're not really | 1870.3064 |
1839 | | 1870.4303 | into kind of the Greek system and Greek life, | 1873.6438 |
1840 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1873.7958 | [Mm-hm.] | 1874.5721 |
1841 | DCB_int_01 | 1874.1799 | [it's like] what is all- th- it's just a social thing it's [doesn't- th-] not even thinking kind of /of this/ big picture. | 1879.0900 |
1842 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1876.6209 | [Right.] | 1877.0796 |
1844 | | 1879.0821 | Right. | 1879.3502 |
1845 | DCB_int_01 | 1879.8423 | [/inaudible/] | 1880.3345 |
1846 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1879.8543 | [Because and then] I sat down and said, | 1881.0823 |
1847 | | 1881.3830 | you know, these are the things that Zeta Phi Beta um, | 1885.2486 |
1849 | | 1885.6367 | you know focuses on | 1887.0014 |
1851 | | 1887.3575 | and these are their community service projects, | 1890.3468 |
1853 | | 1890.7349 | these are the different [countries that they are in] just showing them things and they were l- yeah, they were really really cool with it. | 1896.3972 |
1854 | DCB_int_01 | 1891.6673 | [So you were selling it, mm-hm.] | 1893.3300 |
1855 | | 1896.6734 | Okay so then [after you-] that was your junior year, | 1899.5293 |
1856 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1897.6418 | [Yeah.] | 1898.0540 |
1857 | | 1899.5706 | [Uh-huh.] | 1899.9107 |
1858 | DCB_int_01 | 1899.7907 | so how did that shape- | 1900.9693 |
1859 | | 1901.6836 | That was fall, | 1902.3399 |
1861 | | 1902.7199 | so spring and then your full senior year, how did [that shape your] experiences | 1906.6857 |
1862 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1905.2331 | [Mm-hm.] | 1905.8494 |
1863 | DCB_int_01 | 1907.0018 | and then kind of overall looking at college like- | 1909.7831 |
1864 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1910.2150 | Right so then after | 1911.6597 |
1866 | | 1912.2560 | I think- | 1912.7522 |
1868 | | 1913.0003 | a- | 1913.1083 |
1870 | | 1913.2284 | the- another thing I did, I was the first neophyte | 1915.8175 |
1872 | | 1916.0176 | at our school to then become dean of the next line. | 1918.7761 |
1874 | | 1919.9471 | So | 1920.3393 |
1876 | | 1920.7195 | um, you know and then it was a time we weren't even gonna have a line | 1924.0035 |
1878 | | 1924.3571 | um, because we decided late and w- and we didn't have enough time to do it but | 1928.6629 |
1880 | | 1929.0190 | you know I showed them how we could do it and how I moved these girls and got these girls on line, got all the paperwork we needed they didn't think | 1934.9856 |
1882 | | 1935.1256 | that we could get, | 1935.8579 |
1884 | | 1936.1340 | and then I became dean of that line. | 1937.7114 |
1886 | | 1938.3389 | So it- which was really- | 1939.6355 |
1888 | | 1940.2317 | you know, | 1940.5598 |
1890 | | 1940.8720 | i- it gave me- | 1942.0285 |
1892 | | 1942.4367 | it gave me respect because it's something else I had done an- | 1945.5660 |
1894 | | 1945.6940 | and um, | 1946.6824 |
1896 | | 1947.1666 | it's something they didn't think | 1948.3792 |
1898 | | 1948.5513 | [could be-] | 1948.8274 |
1899 | DCB_int_01 | 1948.6913 | [Could] be done? | 1949.2876 |
1900 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1949.2556 | Right. | 1949.6196 |
1901 | | 1950.1399 | And um- and it was interesting cause w- while I was on line and then when I became dean of the next line I spent a lot of time over at Virginia Union. | 1957.3249 |
1903 | | 1957.9630 | Cause they- cause | 1958.6833 |
1905 | | 1958.9835 | at Vi- | 1959.3076 |
1907 | | 1959.6238 | Virginia Union, | 1960.4081 |
1909 | | 1960.5322 | as in HBCU had- | 1962.0169 |
1911 | | 1962.4731 | all the | 1963.0198 |
1913 | | 1964.1417 | sororities and fraternities had | 1965.8946 |
1915 | | 1966.2146 | rooms, their own | 1967.3151 |
1917 | | 1967.5592 | rooms. | 1968.2845 |
1919 | | 1968.8197 | So that w- so | 1969.6881 |
1921 | | 1969.9722 | I spent a lot of time in the Zeta room | 1971.4929 |
1922 | DCB_int_01 | 1971.7529 | Mm-hm. | 1972.1811 |
1923 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1972.1731 | over there. | 1972.7454 |
1924 | | 1973.1135 | which is | 1974.0460 |
1926 | | 1974.3500 | insulated and | 1975.6346 |
1928 | | 1976.2949 | not | 1976.7375 |
1930 | | 1977.7194 | many people know about it | 1978.9360 |
1932 | | 1979.5002 | and can go there. | 1980.7402 |
1934 | | 1981.1649 | So it was- it was just weird, it was like every week I was over at Virginia Union | 1984.7185 |
1936 | | 1985.1826 | while I was pledging. | 1985.9910 |
1938 | | 1986.3310 | And then when I became dean, | 1987.4035 |
1940 | | 1987.9998 | back over at Virginia Union. | 1989.3798 |
1941 | DCB_int_01 | 1989.4724 | [Mm.] | 1990.2137 |
1942 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1989.7125 | Back over at Virginia Union, so. | 1992.0456 |
1943 | | 1992.5257 | Yeah. | 1992.8830 |
1944 | DCB_int_01 | 1993.3460 | And what- | 1993.8581 |
1946 | | 1994.3545 | So then- Okay. | 1995.5402 |
1947 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 1995.6550 | [Mm-hm.] | 1996.2150 |
1948 | DCB_int_01 | 1995.8791 | So that was your senior year- that was your junior year going into your senior year then you graduated. | 2000.8092 |
1949 | | 2001.6615 | And then what happened next? | 2003.2743 |
1950 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2003.9665 | I didn't graduate on time. | 2005.0390 |
1951 | DCB_int_01 | 2005.4111 | Okay. | 2005.7711 |
1952 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2005.8753 | I didn't graduate on time, one of um, | 2007.7599 |
1954 | | 2007.9082 | the worst things for me | 2009.6810 |
1956 | | 2009.9610 | is | 2010.3532 |
1958 | | 2010.5092 | math. | 2011.1439 |
1960 | | 2011.4217 | Any type of math whatsoever it's just a deficit it doesn't compute in my brain. | 2015.7195 |
1962 | | 2016.4637 | And- | 2017.0040 |
1964 | | 2017.0960 | and I knew this, I've always known this. | 2019.2090 |
1966 | | 2019.6691 | And so I waited til my senior year | 2022.4304 |
1968 | | 2023.1186 | to take algebra one oh one. | 2024.7232 |
1970 | | 2025.3035 | Because I knew | 2026.1475 |
1972 | | 2027.1242 | and I failed it. | 2027.7565 |
1974 | | 2028.2127 | [<laugh> And I failed it.] | 2029.5940 |
1975 | DCB_int_01 | 2028.5408 | [Mm. Okay.] | 2029.1411 |
1977 | | 2029.2732 | [Mm.] | 2029.4853 |
1978 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2029.8334 | So it kept me from [graduating.] | 2031.2900 |
1979 | DCB_int_01 | 2031.1259 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 2031.7579 |
1980 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2031.5301 | [So then] I had to make that call home to my father, | 2033.5274 |
1981 | | 2033.7630 | <laugh> | 2035.3430 |
1982 | DCB_int_01 | 2035.3956 | That's a lot of calls home to [Daddy /that uh-/] | 2037.1044 |
1983 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2036.3921 | [D- you know], | 2037.5086 |
1984 | DCB_int_01 | 2037.1885 | [Mm-hm.] | 2037.7285 |
1985 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2037.7447 | um- | 2038.4531 |
1986 | DCB_int_01 | 2038.8371 | Was he as calm this time? | 2039.9937 |
1987 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2039.9696 | He was. [He was like I said] there are certain things | 2043.0229 |
1988 | DCB_int_01 | 2040.9501 | [Okay.] | 2041.4621 |
1989 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2043.6792 | um, I can remember | 2045.1552 |
1991 | | 2045.6360 | uh, cause my father's v- | 2046.8405 |
1993 | | 2046.9925 | /has a/ hot head, hot temper, very- | 2048.9454 |
1995 | | 2049.1575 | father's a very mean man. | 2050.2380 |
1997 | | 2050.6781 | Um, but there was certain | 2051.9507 |
1999 | | 2052.1788 | things that | 2053.1953 |
2001 | | 2053.8194 | would happen that he would be- totally be calm. | 2055.8324 |
2003 | | 2056.3805 | My mother was good at wrecking cars. | 2058.0573 |
2005 | | 2058.5814 | And you know <laugh> [was good-] | 2061.2254 |
2006 | DCB_int_01 | 2059.6427 | [<laugh> Just wreck 'em.] | 2061.2275 |
2007 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2061.7509 | In the sixties and seventies were wrecking cars and whenever she got in a accident, | 2066.3688 |
2009 | | 2066.6287 | he remained calm, he was cool. | 2068.7447 |
2011 | | 2069.0779 | Either got the car fixed or just | 2070.5912 |
2013 | | 2071.1147 | got another car. | 2071.8240 |
2015 | | 2073.8919 | And [um], | 2074.7202 |
2016 | DCB_int_01 | 2074.2640 | [Hm.] | 2074.6187 |
2017 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2074.8003 | you know so when I call home- | 2076.1910 |
2019 | | 2076.5969 | And at that point | 2077.5373 |
2021 | | 2077.6253 | I w- had- | 2078.1096 |
2023 | | 2078.6578 | I had already started working. | 2080.0231 |
2025 | | 2080.2666 | So I went to school for chemical dependency rehabilitation. | 2083.1838 |
2027 | | 2083.6359 | So I was already working at two different places as- | 2086.5812 |
2029 | | 2086.8172 | as a chemical dependency counselor | 2088.4100 |
2031 | | 2088.5740 | while finishing up | 2089.3824 |
2033 | | 2089.5985 | school | 2089.9707 |
2035 | | 2090.0987 | by then. | 2090.5241 |
2037 | | 2091.0150 | Um, | 2091.4417 |
2039 | | 2092.0675 | because I had done my- | 2093.2601 |
2041 | | 2093.3480 | my um, | 2094.0013 |
2043 | | 2094.3445 | internship | 2094.9965 |
2045 | | 2095.3409 | at a couple places and then they hired me | 2097.1536 |
2046 | DCB_int_01 | 2097.3337 | [Right.] | 2097.6779 |
2047 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2097.3737 | [part time] so then- | 2098.3182 |
2048 | | 2098.6383 | you know so they cou- my parents couldn't argue with that because that was a job working in- | 2101.8957 |
2050 | | 2102.1557 | jobs working in my [field.] | 2103.3144 |
2051 | DCB_int_01 | 2103.0280 | [field.] | 2103.2961 |
2052 | | 2103.4362 | So that's what you had been working for [these four years] or these four and a half years since you've been in school. | 2107.3100 |
2053 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2104.8408 | [Right.] | 2105.2410 |
2054 | | 2107.4180 | Right. | 2107.6580 |
2056 | | 2107.9742 | So | 2108.5343 |
2058 | | 2108.6423 | I /had/ got my grades, | 2109.6268 |
2060 | | 2109.8829 | and I remember I was at one of my jobs when I called him to say, | 2112.5441 |
2062 | | 2112.7841 | got my grades and I didn't- | 2114.4649 |
2064 | | 2114.6410 | you know, I failed math. And so he was really calm then he said, | 2117.3581 |
2066 | | 2117.7063 | what do you wanna do? | 2118.3676 |
2068 | | 2119.1388 | I said, I wanna take it over in summer school. | 2120.9115 |
2070 | | 2121.4078 | And he said, | 2122.0358 |
2072 | | 2122.2922 | find out how much it's gonna cost and let me know. | 2123.8169 |
2074 | | 2125.3054 | And I did it and I passed and | 2126.5700 |
2076 | | 2126.6981 | so | 2126.9222 |
2078 | | 2127.2343 | [with the-] | 2127.5730 |
2079 | DCB_int_01 | 2127.2463 | [Do you think] he was really calm because you were the first one to go to college and it wasn't- | 2131.3560 |
2080 | | 2131.4841 | there was- | 2131.8722 |
2082 | | 2132.0483 | he didn't wanna push you out like- like | 2133.7910 |
2084 | | 2133.9570 | say forget it /but/ he wanted you to finish it? | 2135.8973 |
2085 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2136.4781 | I was going to finish there was no question [it was ju- <laugh>] | 2139.4635 |
2086 | DCB_int_01 | 2138.3030 | [And you think that's why he kind of was] like, let me back up? | 2140.4720 |
2087 | | 2140.5479 | [And back off] a little bit? | 2141.6159 |
2088 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2140.6079 | [Yeah], | 2141.1039 |
2089 | | 2141.6764 | yeah. | 2142.0646 |
2091 | | 2142.4085 | [Yeah.] | 2142.7845 |
2092 | DCB_int_01 | 2142.4885 | [Yeah.] | 2142.8312 |
2093 | | 2143.5890 | Um, so when you finished [kind of what-] | 2145.7620 |
2094 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2145.1898 | [Mm-hm.] | 2145.5485 |
2095 | | 2146.1022 | What happened? | 2146.6304 |
2096 | DCB_int_01 | 2146.6064 | Mm-hm. | 2146.9584 |
2097 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2147.0907 | I finished school, | 2148.0351 |
2099 | | 2148.2591 | I stayed in Richmond. | 2149.1195 |
2101 | | 2150.1438 | Um, | 2150.6601 |
2103 | | 2150.7521 | and I | 2151.4204 |
2105 | | 2151.5045 | at one time | 2152.3368 |
2107 | | 2152.9570 | had four jobs. | 2153.9503 |
2109 | | 2154.2096 | They were all part time jobs, | 2155.7269 |
2110 | DCB_int_01 | 2155.8102 | Wow. | 2156.2024 |
2111 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2156.3505 | um, two of 'em were | 2157.5270 |
2113 | | 2157.6270 | counseling | 2158.3034 |
2115 | | 2158.9475 | which didn't pay much money but it was what I wanted to do. | 2161.2409 |
2116 | DCB_int_01 | 2161.4166 | Mm-hm. | 2161.7565 |
2117 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2161.8488 | Um, another job I worked at | 2164.3459 |
2119 | | 2164.4899 | Traveler's Insurance they had the Medicare contracts so I was processing Medicare claims. | 2168.8596 |
2121 | | 2169.3719 | Um, and then | 2171.2327 |
2123 | | 2171.6609 | I l- | 2172.0251 |
2125 | | 2172.4013 | I worked at | 2173.2577 |
2127 | | 2173.5257 | a bank, I worked at um, | 2175.5466 |
2129 | | 2175.9106 | I can't even remember the name of the bank now. | 2177.1112 |
2131 | | 2177.6114 | Um, but I worked there from four in the morning to twelve noon | 2180.9288 |
2133 | | 2181.3529 | processing credit cards, that's when credit cards were | 2184.2383 |
2135 | | 2184.3222 | um, when you payed credit card [they sw-] | 2185.7708 |
2136 | DCB_int_01 | 2185.4147 | [And they swiped /the little-/] | 2186.3071 |
2137 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2186.0470 | [swiped] your card and it was that little s- | 2187.3676 |
2138 | | 2187.5876 | [rectangular piece.] | 2188.4920 |
2139 | DCB_int_01 | 2187.6156 | [Imprint, mm-hm.] | 2188.5880 |
2140 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2188.8241 | And so I processed those. | 2190.2688 |
2142 | | 2190.5088 | So um, yeah I would | 2191.7013 |
2144 | | 2191.8134 | work on the weekends, I was single, I had my own place, I had a car, | 2195.1629 |
2146 | | 2195.6190 | and uh, so I just worked. | 2197.0950 |
2148 | | 2197.2917 | That's all I wanted to do was work. | 2198.3922 |
2150 | | 2198.9004 | So I worked all the time. | 2199.7648 |
2151 | DCB_int_01 | 2200.0247 | Was it- did you wanna work cause you wanted to like | 2201.6174 |
2153 | | 2201.9256 | get money, save up money? Or did you just want to work cause you just loved like | 2204.8990 |
2154 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2205.0949 | I just [wanted to work.] | 2205.7589 |
2155 | DCB_int_01 | 2205.3470 | [being on your] own? | 2206.0110 |
2156 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2206.1074 | I just wanted to be on my own and I just wanted to work. | 2207.7480 |
2158 | | 2208.7045 | And I didn't wanna come back home. | 2209.5729 |
2160 | | 2210.6853 | [<laugh>] | 2211.9973 |
2161 | DCB_int_01 | 2210.9854 | [Mm.] | 2211.2227 |
2163 | | 2211.3576 | [Okay so how] do we- | 2212.3941 |
2164 | | 2212.4701 | how do we- | 2213.0794 |
2166 | | 2213.2743 | how do we end up [back here like] kind of what was the path of | 2216.2516 |
2167 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2214.2548 | [Back home?] | 2214.7710 |
2168 | DCB_int_01 | 2216.5277 | fifteen jobs | 2217.6082 |
2169 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2217.9124 | [<laugh>] | 2218.9057 |
2170 | DCB_int_01 | 2218.0524 | [to coming back?] | 2218.7231 |
2171 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2219.2450 | [So], | 2219.7052 |
2172 | DCB_int_01 | 2219.3930 | [<laugh>] | 2219.9372 |
2173 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2219.9292 | on the job /that/ I work at the bank, | 2221.4219 |
2174 | DCB_int_01 | 2221.5739 | Mm-hm. | 2221.8461 |
2175 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2221.8220 | from four in the morning | 2222.8025 |
2176 | | 2223.1545 | to- | 2223.8469 |
2178 | | 2223.9829 | to noon, | 2224.7231 |
2180 | | 2224.8113 | I met my first husband. | 2226.1999 |
2181 | DCB_int_01 | 2226.3838 | Mm-hm. | 2226.7971 |
2182 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2226.8001 | He worked five- | 2227.9446 |
2184 | | 2228.5927 | five to two. | 2229.2772 |
2186 | | 2229.7212 | Five to one. | 2230.1894 |
2188 | | 2230.9858 | And um, met him | 2232.3464 |
2190 | | 2232.9107 | and then we got married | 2234.3313 |
2192 | | 2235.1995 | in eighty seven. | 2236.6075 |
2194 | | 2237.3605 | I met him in eighty six, we got married in eighty seven, | 2239.5975 |
2196 | | 2240.0176 | my daughter was born in eighty eight. | 2241.7264 |
2198 | | 2242.5226 | Um, | 2243.2990 |
2200 | | 2243.5991 | he had lost his job | 2244.8005 |
2201 | DCB_int_01 | 2245.4039 | [Mm-hm.] | 2245.7680 |
2202 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2245.6730 | [and] so we couldn't afford | 2247.4528 |
2203 | | 2248.4052 | to s- | 2249.1176 |
2205 | | 2249.5016 | stay together once | 2250.6782 |
2207 | | 2251.1663 | I went into labor and had | 2252.3228 |
2209 | | 2252.4549 | the baby cause then I couldn't work. | 2253.9869 |
2211 | | 2254.6718 | So. | 2254.9958 |
2213 | | 2255.8563 | Um, | 2256.3525 |
2215 | | 2257.1128 | so the plan was that- | 2259.1274 |
2217 | | 2259.9420 | my daughter was born in October, | 2261.5427 |
2219 | | 2262.2589 | the plan was that in November around | 2264.2278 |
2221 | | 2264.3759 | Thanksgiving | 2265.1199 |
2223 | | 2266.3286 | um, the baby and I moved back home. | 2267.9453 |
2225 | | 2268.9137 | While he got- | 2269.4260 |
2227 | | 2269.6741 | found a job and got on his feet. | 2271.1068 |
2229 | | 2271.2987 | The cool thing was that as we were packing up, | 2273.4947 |
2231 | | 2273.8598 | he did find a job. | 2275.0844 |
2233 | | 2275.4765 | But by then | 2276.1769 |
2235 | | 2276.2889 | all our money was gone | 2277.2854 |
2237 | | 2277.6295 | from him not working. | 2278.5059 |
2239 | | 2279.0499 | So um, | 2279.8703 |
2241 | | 2279.9354 | the plan was that | 2280.9068 |
2243 | | 2281.5031 | um, I left in November, | 2282.7356 |
2245 | | 2283.0717 | by February the baby and I were supposed to go back to Richmond. | 2285.6929 |
2246 | DCB_int_01 | 2285.9929 | Mm-hm. | 2286.2956 |
2247 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2286.4771 | And that didn't happen, | 2287.2865 |
2249 | | 2287.4096 | so I ended up being here, staying here and then he and I got divorced. | 2290.6389 |
2250 | DCB_int_01 | 2291.3151 | So how long were you married, a year? | 2292.6357 |
2252 | | 2292.7838 | A year and a half? Two years? | 2293.7211 |
2253 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2293.6842 | Fifteen months. | 2294.4766 |
2254 | DCB_int_01 | 2295.9371 | Okay. | 2296.2011 |
2256 | | 2296.8896 | But you have a daughter, | 2297.6779 |
2258 | | 2297.9900 | and that's a great thing. | 2298.9344 |
2259 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2298.9464 | And a daughter. | 2299.5427 |
2260 | DCB_int_01 | 2299.4867 | So now you came back home, [were you] | 2301.4156 |
2261 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2300.9271 | [Mm-hm.] | 2301.3966 |
2262 | DCB_int_01 | 2301.5314 | at home with mom and [dad?] | 2302.7940 |
2263 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2302.6239 | [Mm-hm.] | 2303.2039 |
2264 | | 2303.3802 | For a year. | 2303.9896 |
2265 | DCB_int_01 | 2304.5328 | <laugh> | 2305.0490 |
2267 | | 2305.1771 | [How was that?] | 2305.9614 |
2268 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2305.1891 | [One year.] | 2305.8854 |
2269 | | 2306.0054 | It- it wasn't good. | 2307.4421 |
2271 | | 2307.5580 | It wasn't good. <laugh> | 2309.1147 |
2273 | | 2309.6387 | It wasn't good on a n- | 2310.8513 |
2275 | | 2310.9874 | on lots of levels, one, | 2312.3687 |
2277 | | 2312.6842 | I didn't wanna be at home. | 2313.6646 |
2279 | | 2313.7925 | I [was raised] to be independent, be on my own, not to | 2317.3022 |
2280 | DCB_int_01 | 2313.9286 | [Right.] | 2314.2206 |
2281 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2317.5822 | rely on anyone. | 2318.7089 |
2283 | | 2318.9148 | That's how I was raised, to be self sufficient | 2321.5960 |
2285 | | 2322.0440 | and um, | 2323.2966 |
2287 | | 2323.5367 | to do | 2324.2010 |
2289 | | 2324.3411 | whatever I need to do | 2325.2651 |
2291 | | 2325.4096 | on my own. | 2326.0058 |
2292 | DCB_int_01 | 2326.4219 | Mm-hm. | 2326.9192 |
2293 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2327.1262 | The other thing is that two mothers in one household do not work. | 2330.5597 |
2294 | DCB_int_01 | 2330.5956 | Mm-hm. | 2331.0049 |
2295 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2331.0758 | <laugh> | 2332.0883 |
2297 | | 2332.6846 | And the other is that I was right back in this situation | 2335.8420 |
2299 | | 2336.2061 | with | 2336.9927 |
2301 | | 2337.1105 | my father | 2337.8998 |
2303 | | 2338.2267 | and | 2338.9854 |
2305 | | 2339.2392 | um, | 2339.7512 |
2307 | | 2339.9075 | his own issues and being nasty and mean. | 2342.8167 |
2309 | | 2343.1329 | So I had to get the hell out of Dodge as quick as I can. | 2345.5220 |
2310 | DCB_int_01 | 2345.5620 | Right. | 2345.8742 |
2311 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2345.8822 | So soon as I came back, | 2347.1948 |
2313 | | 2347.5774 | um, | 2348.1374 |
2315 | | 2349.1794 | you know I was there exactly a year. | 2350.8728 |
2316 | DCB_int_01 | 2351.6325 | And you were like, I'm done. | 2352.5245 |
2317 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2352.6409 | And then I moved out. | 2353.6094 |
2319 | | 2354.3057 | And then | 2354.7739 |
2321 | | 2354.8818 | moved into Riverdale. | 2355.7622 |
2323 | | 2356.8226 | [Yup so I start-] so I c- so what happened was I came home in November, | 2359.6039 |
2324 | DCB_int_01 | 2356.9267 | [And so-] | 2357.3533 |
2325 | | 2359.6238 | Mm-hm. | 2359.9559 |
2326 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2360.4392 | um, by February was you know, | 2362.8693 |
2328 | | 2362.9972 | uh, | 2363.4694 |
2330 | | 2363.7776 | it was determined that I wasn't going back to Richmond, | 2366.3161 |
2332 | | 2366.8349 | so I found a job and started working. | 2368.6236 |
2334 | | 2369.9482 | And [so] then by- | 2370.6764 |
2335 | DCB_int_01 | 2370.0641 | [And-] | 2370.2561 |
2336 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2370.7725 | from February to November is when I saved up all my money and then | 2374.1071 |
2338 | | 2374.8784 | my daughter and I moved out. | 2375.8468 |
2339 | DCB_int_01 | 2377.3434 | And then how did that- | 2378.2180 |
2341 | | 2379.0919 | and then what did you do for | 2380.5893 |
2343 | | 2381.2369 | the next /span?/ | 2382.3574 |
2345 | | 2382.6056 | Because how- then you | 2384.0701 |
2347 | | 2384.3663 | worked for a w- long time. | 2385.7089 |
2348 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2385.7469 | Mm-hm. | 2386.2111 |
2349 | DCB_int_01 | 2386.4471 | Um, | 2387.2884 |
2351 | | 2387.4796 | and then you got remarried. | 2388.6481 |
2352 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2388.9601 | Mm I- | 2389.9926 |
2354 | | 2390.0967 | I met | 2390.9233 |
2356 | | 2391.5453 | the twins' father. | 2392.6058 |
2357 | DCB_int_01 | 2392.8897 | Okay. | 2393.2390 |
2358 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2393.4059 | <ts> We didn't- we were planning to get married but [we didn't get ma-] | 2395.9311 |
2359 | DCB_int_01 | 2395.0867 | [And no one got ma- Okay.] | 2395.9791 |
2360 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2396.0432 | [Right.] | 2396.2313 |
2361 | DCB_int_01 | 2396.1272 | [Mm-hm.] | 2396.4073 |
2362 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2396.7555 | Um, so we- we um, | 2399.2048 |
2364 | | 2399.7446 | <ts> | 2399.8287 |
2366 | | 2399.9287 | we m- | 2400.3329 |
2368 | | 2400.4690 | moved in together when I was pregnant with the twins, | 2403.1222 |
2370 | | 2403.8503 | and then we separated | 2405.5111 |
2372 | | 2405.6391 | when the twins were like a year and a month old. | 2407.7401 |
2373 | DCB_int_01 | 2408.8045 | And then you're like, alright. | 2409.9151 |
2375 | | 2410.5333 | So | 2411.0055 |
2377 | | 2411.4377 | um, | 2412.0510 |
2379 | | 2412.1339 | and then what did you do? Now how did you get from- | 2414.6152 |
2381 | | 2415.5833 | So you were working at the bank and then what was the jo- you were just working at- | 2418.2214 |
2383 | | 2418.3035 | whatever | 2418.7497 |
2385 | | 2418.9488 | [payed the bills] | 2419.7892 |
2386 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2418.9968 | [When I was a-] | 2419.4690 |
2387 | DCB_int_01 | 2420.2494 | after your daughter was born? | 2421.4659 |
2388 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2422.1141 | Oh. | 2422.3782 |
2389 | DCB_int_01 | 2422.3502 | Or are you working in your field? | 2423.4769 |
2390 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2424.0950 | No. | 2424.4832 |
2392 | | 2425.2113 | I was working in my field | 2426.7040 |
2394 | | 2426.9905 | and at the bank up until | 2428.8090 |
2396 | | 2429.4411 | my daughter was born. | 2430.1575 |
2397 | DCB_int_01 | 2430.1335 | Mm-hm. | 2430.5377 |
2398 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2430.4976 | When I was living in Richmond. | 2431.4083 |
2399 | DCB_int_01 | 2431.4661 | Right. | 2431.7582 |
2400 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2432.1064 | When I came back home | 2433.4788 |
2402 | | 2433.9430 | um, | 2434.5723 |
2404 | | 2434.7834 | I thought I was going back to Richmond so I didn't get a job | 2437.2847 |
2406 | | 2437.5405 | until it was | 2438.1379 |
2408 | | 2438.3809 | obvious I wasn't going back. | 2440.1017 |
2410 | | 2440.2096 | So then I started looking for a job, | 2441.6390 |
2412 | | 2442.1522 | and I ended up- | 2443.2647 |
2414 | | 2443.4968 | started off working | 2444.5813 |
2416 | | 2444.6756 | at | 2444.9997 |
2418 | | 2445.1038 | a hospital | 2445.7961 |
2420 | | 2446.8164 | in billing | 2447.4951 |
2422 | | 2447.8609 | in um, | 2448.7613 |
2424 | | 2449.6937 | Doctor's Hospital in Arlington, | 2451.3704 |
2426 | | 2451.4825 | it's [called something] else now. | 2452.5283 |
2427 | DCB_int_01 | 2451.6865 | [Mm.] | 2451.9146 |
2428 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2453.1591 | Um, | 2453.5818 |
2430 | | 2453.7314 | so, | 2454.1716 |
2432 | | 2454.2837 | I did that. | 2454.8730 |
2434 | | 2455.6882 | And then from there I started working for | 2458.5775 |
2436 | | 2459.2497 | Group Health Adminis- | 2460.3297 |
2438 | | 2460.5302 | Group Health Association, GHA they're no longer. | 2462.9633 |
2440 | | 2463.4914 | And they were the first HMO in the DC area. | 2466.0846 |
2442 | | 2466.8449 | So I worked for them | 2468.1195 |
2444 | | 2469.5940 | ooh almost ten years. | 2470.8986 |
2446 | | 2471.2428 | And then they decided to pull up out of the area | 2473.6159 |
2448 | | 2474.0479 | and | 2474.3401 |
2450 | | 2474.5082 | laid everybody off. | 2475.6167 |
2451 | DCB_int_01 | 2476.1968 | So how did you get- | 2476.9771 |
2453 | | 2477.1371 | because now you do- I mean it's still | 2478.8545 |
2455 | | 2478.9340 | administration | 2480.0580 |
2457 | | 2480.1425 | [um], | 2480.4012 |
2458 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2480.1465 | [Mm-hm.] | 2480.7305 |
2459 | DCB_int_01 | 2480.5147 | but it's a little different but I also know you do event [planning, like how did] you [kind of-] | 2484.1883 |
2460 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2482.9796 | [Mm-hm.] | 2483.5129 |
2462 | | 2483.8280 | [How did I] get there? | 2484.6043 |
2463 | DCB_int_01 | 2484.5643 | All that | 2485.1446 |
2464 | | 2485.3167 | [kind of came] together. | 2486.3131 |
2465 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2485.3247 | [So-] | 2485.7007 |
2466 | | 2486.5851 | so when I left Richmond and came back here | 2489.0823 |
2468 | | 2489.4663 | um, | 2490.0237 |
2470 | | 2490.2387 | it ended up I wasn't going back to Richmond that wasn't my plan and my | 2493.6123 |
2472 | | 2493.7161 | idea. | 2494.2203 |
2474 | | 2494.6445 | And so I didn't want | 2496.1212 |
2476 | | 2496.3293 | to | 2496.9656 |
2478 | | 2497.8059 | be a counselor | 2499.0606 |
2480 | | 2499.5105 | because I felt | 2500.2268 |
2482 | | 2500.3709 | that | 2500.7751 |
2484 | | 2501.2873 | I had needed to get my own life straight | 2502.9561 |
2486 | | 2503.3042 | and my own emotional state straight | 2505.0371 |
2488 | | 2505.3409 | before I start- I could help other people | 2507.2138 |
2489 | DCB_int_01 | 2507.4578 | [Mm-hm.] | 2507.8645 |
2490 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2507.5218 | [with their] issues. | 2508.4899 |
2491 | | 2509.0267 | And so I just- um, I didn't wanna do that | 2511.5197 |
2493 | | 2512.3761 | until I got myself straight. | 2513.4444 |
2495 | | 2513.5565 | So I just /start-/ went through | 2515.5118 |
2497 | | 2515.6453 | back then you didn't /know/ on the internet | 2517.2421 |
2499 | | 2517.3942 | cause there wasn't- | 2518.0368 |
2500 | DCB_int_01 | 2518.2065 | Internet. | 2518.6226 |
2501 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2518.5466 | <laugh> [You know], | 2519.5750 |
2502 | DCB_int_01 | 2519.2429 | [Right.] | 2519.5189 |
2503 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2519.7791 | I was in the Washington Post | 2520.7858 |
2505 | | 2520.8995 | looking for jobs, and I found | 2522.2962 |
2507 | | 2522.4082 | the job at the hospital. | 2523.4127 |
2509 | | 2523.7248 | And that's what I did to pay the bills. | 2525.4536 |
2511 | | 2525.7935 | And then I found the job at GHA. | 2527.5349 |
2513 | | 2527.8665 | And so I was processing | 2529.1972 |
2515 | | 2529.7514 | claims- | 2530.4117 |
2517 | | 2530.5076 | insurance claims [again.] | 2531.5743 |
2518 | DCB_int_01 | 2531.3440 | [Mm-hm.] | 2531.6533 |
2519 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2531.9923 | In the hospital I was doing billing. | 2533.4530 |
2521 | | 2534.1931 | Um, insurance [billing] so it was all that so I had that- | 2536.5582 |
2522 | DCB_int_01 | 2534.9134 | [Billing.] | 2535.2694 |
2523 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2536.6782 | got that training when I was in Richmond to do | 2538.8672 |
2525 | | 2539.3593 | um, | 2539.7355 |
2527 | | 2540.2317 | ICD-9 coding and CDT coding and so that's what I did to pay the bills. | 2544.4775 |
2529 | | 2544.9497 | And um- | 2545.9982 |
2531 | | 2546.7905 | and so from | 2548.1872 |
2533 | | 2548.5631 | there, | 2549.4115 |
2535 | | 2550.1879 | when they laid everybody off I found a job | 2553.0932 |
2537 | | 2553.1892 | as an executive secretary for | 2555.4622 |
2539 | | 2556.3785 | th- | 2556.5424 |
2541 | | 2557.4909 | Nope. | 2557.7430 |
2543 | | 2557.8430 | I'm sorry let me back up. | 2558.7394 |
2545 | | 2559.3197 | (makes rewind noise) | 2560.0681 |
2546 | DCB_int_01 | 2560.0736 | [<laugh>] | 2562.4292 |
2547 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2560.4322 | [So-] | 2561.3046 |
2549 | | 2561.6088 | [so after GHA] laid us all off | 2563.6655 |
2550 | | 2564.0618 | I- | 2564.6391 |
2552 | | 2565.4302 | um, someone told me about | 2567.2390 |
2554 | | 2567.3711 | the DC | 2568.4196 |
2556 | | 2568.5156 | Dislocated Workers Program | 2570.0683 |
2558 | | 2570.9806 | [Which], if you had been on your job for two years in DC or you worked in DC and you got laid off due to no fault of your own, | 2577.6595 |
2559 | DCB_int_01 | 2571.0060 | [Hm.] | 2571.3750 |
2560 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2578.1917 | at that time, | 2579.0361 |
2562 | | 2579.6122 | there was ten thousand dollars | 2581.1850 |
2564 | | 2581.3570 | for you to- | 2582.6577 |
2566 | | 2582.7895 | education expenses for you if you wanted to be retrained in a different field. | 2586.4312 |
2567 | DCB_int_01 | 2587.4515 | [Mm.] | 2588.1118 |
2568 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2587.5475 | [I don't know if it still] exists or not | 2588.9042 |
2569 | | 2589.2563 | but it was there then. | 2590.6963 |
2571 | | 2591.1890 | And so while um, I was out and- and | 2594.8028 |
2573 | | 2594.9186 | getting | 2595.3348 |
2575 | | 2595.9110 | you know the severance package, | 2597.1556 |
2577 | | 2597.8800 | I enrolled in this computer school. | 2599.5927 |
2579 | | 2599.9407 | And I learned | 2600.4289 |
2581 | | 2600.5329 | everything about computers that I could, I learned | 2602.6619 |
2583 | | 2602.8820 | all- everyth- all the- | 2603.9665 |
2585 | | 2604.0666 | the Office pro- | 2604.8389 |
2587 | | 2605.0149 | Suite programs. | 2606.0394 |
2589 | | 2606.6076 | Um, | 2607.0158 |
2591 | | 2607.1159 | I | 2607.5583 |
2593 | | 2608.0962 | learned C p- C+, C++ and Visual Basic. | 2611.0776 |
2595 | | 2612.2516 | And um- | 2613.2020 |
2597 | | 2613.4112 | and it was all payed for. | 2614.4352 |
2599 | | 2614.8118 | You know. | 2615.2040 |
2600 | DCB_int_01 | 2615.4841 | [And that was a big deal at that-] cause computers were the thing at that [point like you know] | 2619.6291 |
2601 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2615.4881 | [I took every class.] | 2616.8848 |
2603 | | 2619.0408 | [Right.] | 2619.4730 |
2604 | DCB_int_01 | 2619.8611 | they weren't just kind of whatever. | 2621.1137 |
2605 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2621.1137 | Right. | 2621.4057 |
2606 | | 2622.0220 | So um- | 2623.1385 |
2608 | | 2623.2506 | and this was in the nineties, this was in the mid-nineties so I did that, | 2626.3600 |
2610 | | 2626.7960 | and then um, | 2628.2767 |
2612 | | 2628.8449 | from there, | 2629.7383 |
2614 | | 2630.1815 | I found | 2631.5542 |
2616 | | 2632.3503 | the job as an executive secretary for this guy who- | 2635.4878 |
2618 | | 2635.5718 | it was a small office and he owned it hisself. | 2637.5625 |
2620 | | 2638.2408 | But he | 2639.2212 |
2622 | | 2640.4218 | did | 2641.0551 |
2624 | | 2641.3862 | environmental consulting | 2642.9590 |
2626 | | 2643.4790 | for this group | 2644.3954 |
2628 | | 2644.9196 | of peop- | 2645.4079 |
2630 | | 2645.6360 | group of guys in Belgium and Japan | 2647.5529 |
2632 | | 2647.9370 | which was wonderful for me, | 2649.4137 |
2634 | | 2649.7976 | because then I got exposure to international things. | 2653.0695 |
2635 | DCB_int_01 | 2653.3952 | [Mm.] | 2653.7794 |
2636 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2653.4352 | [So] I got ex- and you know I | 2655.1485 |
2637 | | 2655.4401 | became exposed to | 2656.7607 |
2639 | | 2657.0808 | the Japanese and- and | 2658.6095 |
2641 | | 2658.7135 | the | 2659.0417 |
2643 | | 2659.2178 | businessman who would come. | 2660.2740 |
2645 | | 2660.8062 | And the Belgians | 2661.7347 |
2647 | | 2661.8627 | who were my favorite because they always brought me candy and chocolates. | 2664.7721 |
2649 | | 2665.2203 | Oh [my god.] | 2665.6565 |
2650 | DCB_int_01 | 2665.4444 | [<laugh>] | 2666.8249 |
2651 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2666.8289 | The | 2667.0502 |
2653 | | 2667.2811 | best chocolates. | 2668.0745 |
2655 | | 2668.4015 | Uh, which is now I would not- I would very rarely eat Hershey chocolate now because I've been exposed to | 2673.3035 |
2656 | DCB_int_01 | 2673.3195 | Mm. [Mm-hm.] | 2674.1239 |
2657 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2673.6277 | [Better stuff] so the l- | 2674.7384 |
2658 | DCB_int_01 | 2674.5041 | [It's hard] to | 2675.1084 |
2659 | | 2675.2004 | have [like little hamburger] when you have this- Mm. | 2677.7616 |
2660 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2675.5646 | [You know], | 2676.2326 |
2662 | | 2676.6531 | [Godiva's slumming] for me. | 2678.2818 |
2663 | | 2678.4657 | [You know. <laugh>] | 2680.1345 |
2664 | DCB_int_01 | 2678.5697 | [Mm. Mm-hm.] | 2680.1425 |
2665 | | 2680.6347 | [I'm so sorry you gotta struggle /RD-NAME-2/ so sorry.] | 2683.0197 |
2666 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2680.8148 | [<laugh> You know it's a- it's a] struggle, struggle, somebody gotta do it. | 2684.4642 |
2667 | | 2684.9726 | But um, | 2685.4128 |
2669 | | 2685.5927 | so from there, | 2687.0247 |
2671 | | 2688.1978 | um, I only worked for him about seven | 2689.9786 |
2673 | | 2690.1347 | eight months [cause] he was a tyrant. | 2691.8040 |
2674 | DCB_int_01 | 2690.7670 | [Mm-hm.] | 2691.0872 |
2675 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2692.2875 | And- <laugh> and um, | 2693.5981 |
2677 | | 2693.8882 | so from there | 2694.6365 |
2679 | | 2694.9727 | I | 2695.5220 |
2681 | | 2695.7050 | went to | 2696.6864 |
2683 | | 2696.8256 | the place I came | 2697.7060 |
2685 | | 2698.1819 | from before I came here | 2699.2865 |
2687 | | 2699.4705 | which was National Childr- | 2700.9752 |
2689 | | 2701.3034 | Children's Alliance. | 2702.2798 |
2691 | | 2702.6920 | And I was there for sixteen years. | 2704.3448 |
2693 | | 2704.8768 | And from there I- I started off as | 2707.7221 |
2695 | | 2708.1863 | um, | 2708.7666 |
2697 | | 2709.0385 | executive assistant, | 2709.9478 |
2698 | DCB_int_01 | 2710.1790 | Mm-hm. | 2710.4963 |
2699 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2710.8553 | and then my- | 2711.6966 |
2701 | | 2712.3360 | it's like the more they figured out I knew or things I could do, my position kept evolving. [It was a small] non-profit, smaller than this one. It was- | 2719.7190 |
2702 | DCB_int_01 | 2717.2620 | [Mm-hm.] | 2717.6887 |
2703 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2719.8031 | it's a national non-profit but there were only- | 2721.8360 |
2705 | | 2722.2402 | and it's | 2722.6095 |
2707 | | 2723.5448 | sixteen people at the- | 2724.8052 |
2709 | | 2724.9212 | at- | 2725.0893 |
2711 | | 2725.4254 | /at this./ | 2725.9694 |
2713 | | 2727.6345 | Yeah. | 2727.9411 |
2715 | | 2728.1227 | Only | 2728.3947 |
2717 | | 2728.4989 | sixteen people was the highest number of employees we had [at one time.] | 2731.4281 |
2718 | DCB_int_01 | 2730.8797 | [Oh okay yeah] it's tiny. | 2732.0643 |
2719 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2732.3844 | Uh-huh. | 2732.7646 |
2721 | | 2733.0567 | Well um, so | 2734.1314 |
2723 | | 2735.0654 | from | 2735.8538 |
2725 | | 2736.1659 | executive assistant I moved into like | 2738.4470 |
2727 | | 2738.5510 | uh, | 2738.8910 |
2729 | | 2739.4274 | administrative coordinator, | 2740.6240 |
2731 | | 2740.8839 | office manager and- and did all that kind of stuff. | 2743.4851 |
2733 | | 2743.9733 | And then I moved into | 2745.7346 |
2735 | | 2746.2862 | helping with our conference. | 2747.7942 |
2737 | | 2748.1871 | So- | 2748.5911 |
2739 | | 2749.5437 | so I already had some event planning experience from doing family things. | 2753.4694 |
2740 | DCB_int_01 | 2753.5612 | Mm-hm. | 2753.9172 |
2741 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2754.0495 | <ts> And um- | 2755.3588 |
2743 | | 2755.9824 | and then I just- | 2756.8628 |
2745 | | 2757.0589 | I'm just | 2757.6071 |
2747 | | 2759.1517 | well coordinated I guess so I'm good at coordinating things and so I just kept- | 2764.1779 |
2749 | | 2764.6819 | And I'm good at making relationships and building [relationships] and I'm good at negotiating contracts and so it- my position just kept evolving, evolving, | 2772.3452 |
2750 | DCB_int_01 | 2766.9069 | [Right.] | 2767.3896 |
2751 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2772.6853 | and so I went from | 2773.6014 |
2753 | | 2773.8659 | administrative coordinator | 2775.3392 |
2755 | | 2775.6065 | the | 2776.0947 |
2757 | | 2776.1947 | um, | 2776.6990 |
2759 | | 2777.1472 | event | 2777.5554 |
2761 | | 2777.8995 | management coordinator. | 2779.2155 |
2763 | | 2779.8684 | Uh-oh. | 2780.2286 |
2764 | DCB_int_01 | 2780.2246 | Okay well let me- | 2781.1890 |
2765 | | 2781.4369 | Somebody's calling us, hold on. | 2782.9576 |
2766 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2783.0056 | [<laugh>] | 2784.8505 |
2767 | DCB_int_01 | 2784.0701 | [We'll tell 'em that you're] not available. | 2785.6848 |
2768 | | 2789.1242 | Boys and Girls Club, this is Minnie how may I help you? | 2791.4335 |
2770 | | 2794.5226 | Um, | 2795.3039 |
2772 | | 2795.6749 | just one m- do you know /RD-NAME-2/ extension? | 2798.5868 |
2773 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2799.0604 | I don't rem- (whispered) | 2799.7528 |
2774 | DCB_int_01 | 2801.2332 | Okay, I | 2802.6138 |
2776 | | 2802.9660 | um- | 2803.6367 |
2777 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2804.3987 | Transfer to the front desk? | 2805.5232 |
2778 | DCB_int_01 | 2806.2355 | Yes ma'am just one moment. | 2807.7049 |
2779 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2809.5928 | The front desk? | 2810.2542 |
2780 | DCB_int_01 | 2810.3292 | I don't know how to [/transfer./] | 2811.3496 |
2781 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2810.8574 | [Two three-] Uh, transfer, | 2812.1507 |
2782 | DCB_int_01 | 2812.4221 | Uh-huh. | 2812.7795 |
2783 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2813.2983 | Two three zero one. | 2814.3428 |
2785 | | 2819.0167 | Transfer. | 2819.4649 |
2787 | | 2824.0430 | Transfer? | 2824.4072 |
2789 | | 2825.3874 | There you go. | 2825.7115 |
2791 | | 2827.2363 | <laugh> | 2827.8202 |
2792 | DCB_int_01 | 2829.1130 | See? | 2829.3571 |
2794 | | 2829.4972 | That's why you the- | 2830.3279 |
2796 | | 2831.5501 | you the little person [cause I don't] know how to do [that.] | 2833.3208 |
2797 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2832.4663 | [See.] | 2832.7224 |
2799 | | 2833.1506 | [/There] you go./ | 2833.5348 |
2800 | DCB_int_01 | 2834.0831 | Alright um- | 2835.1084 |
2801 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2835.1876 | And so yeah, so then my- it just kept | 2836.8163 |
2803 | | 2837.0564 | evolving and /volving./ | 2838.0889 |
2805 | | 2838.4249 | And then um, | 2839.6615 |
2807 | | 2840.2977 | so then they wanted | 2841.0590 |
2809 | | 2841.3021 | I had the choice of s- | 2842.1328 |
2811 | | 2842.4147 | of staying | 2843.1920 |
2813 | | 2843.7392 | you know | 2843.9951 |
2815 | | 2844.1754 | as the | 2844.8957 |
2817 | | 2845.0478 | assistant to | 2846.1603 |
2819 | | 2847.0646 | the CEO | 2847.8809 |
2821 | | 2848.2491 | executive director or | 2849.5105 |
2823 | | 2849.8058 | moving to | 2850.4805 |
2825 | | 2851.0622 | full time event planning and that's what I wanna do so I- I | 2854.2196 |
2827 | | 2854.6198 | manage and coordinated all the | 2856.2998 |
2829 | | 2856.4605 | conferences, meetings, events, | 2859.0297 |
2831 | | 2859.2056 | and it was cool because I got to travel. | 2860.9584 |
2833 | | 2861.6987 | And I'm just traveling, | 2863.2434 |
2835 | | 2864.9560 | s- | 2865.2641 |
2837 | | 2865.4562 | about eight times a year. | 2866.4335 |
2839 | | 2867.0930 | And um- cause we were a national organization so we'd ha- so every January I was in San Diego | 2872.1911 |
2841 | | 2872.3151 | for a conference and a board meeting. | 2873.9125 |
2843 | | 2874.2240 | You know um, | 2875.1284 |
2845 | | 2875.3005 | I got to go to Hawaii | 2876.3370 |
2847 | | 2876.7409 | because of another conference with this job and then I represented | 2879.8024 |
2849 | | 2880.1545 | our organization | 2881.1590 |
2851 | | 2881.2790 | at | 2881.4871 |
2853 | | 2882.0472 | other | 2882.5194 |
2855 | | 2883.0876 | um, | 2883.5303 |
2857 | | 2884.2402 | domestic violence and | 2885.8609 |
2859 | | 2885.9690 | child abuse organizations so | 2887.9379 |
2861 | | 2888.1777 | it was a- it- | 2888.6260 |
2863 | | 2888.7031 | it was really fun. | 2889.5664 |
2865 | | 2890.2427 | It was fun. | 2890.7589 |
2866 | DCB_int_01 | 2891.0751 | So | 2891.5153 |
2868 | | 2891.6393 | before we come to how you- | 2893.0000 |
2869 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2893.3639 | Got [here?] | 2893.7881 |
2870 | DCB_int_01 | 2893.5960 | [here-] | 2894.0282 |
2871 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2894.1122 | Mm-hm. | 2894.4324 |
2872 | DCB_int_01 | 2895.4329 | It's interesting that you talk about travel because like I said one of the things is looking at like culture and life in DC. | 2901.3545 |
2873 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2901.5394 | Mm-hm. | 2901.7981 |
2874 | DCB_int_01 | 2901.9756 | And I think when you go away, | 2903.5476 |
2876 | | 2903.7764 | you're able to kind of realize | 2905.2850 |
2878 | | 2905.6972 | what's unique, | 2906.6546 |
2880 | | 2906.7816 | what do you love about the city, what do you hate about the city. | 2909.0229 |
2881 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2909.1547 | [Mm-hm.] | 2909.7070 |
2882 | DCB_int_01 | 2909.3348 | [So tell] me how do you view | 2911.5158 |
2883 | | 2912.4400 | DC? | 2913.0493 |
2885 | | 2913.4485 | Do you view it as, I love this city I wanna stay here forever and ever, | 2917.4806 |
2887 | | 2918.0263 | I wish this would change, or | 2919.8992 |
2889 | | 2920.2233 | you know, this is great this is not so great, | 2921.8241 |
2891 | | 2921.9799 | what are your | 2922.4252 |
2893 | | 2922.6082 | feelings, opinions, | 2924.0249 |
2895 | | 2924.3371 | what gets your goat | 2925.3934 |
2896 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2925.6816 | [<laugh>] | 2926.4660 |
2897 | DCB_int_01 | 2926.1138 | [about] this city? | 2927.0062 |
2898 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2927.2704 | I'm not in love with the city. | 2928.8870 |
2900 | | 2928.9870 | I'm not | 2929.6153 |
2902 | | 2929.8594 | like, I'm gonna stay here the rest of my life, I'm not- | 2931.8841 |
2904 | | 2932.6646 | I'm not- | 2933.1259 |
2906 | | 2933.7689 | don't have that opinion either. | 2935.0262 |
2908 | | 2935.4937 | Um, | 2936.0337 |
2910 | | 2936.5542 | before the twins were born- | 2937.8788 |
2912 | | 2938.1428 | and I was thirty eight when the twins were born and now they're thirteen so | 2941.5559 |
2914 | | 2942.1404 | a lot of what | 2943.1365 |
2916 | | 2944.2494 | I may have want- and- and I'm not with their father anymore | 2947.1387 |
2918 | | 2947.3988 | and I wanna make sure they stay- | 2948.6241 |
2920 | | 2948.9633 | we stay somewhere where they | 2950.2039 |
2922 | | 2950.2959 | have that exposure | 2951.3564 |
2924 | | 2951.8286 | um, to their father. | 2952.8033 |
2926 | | 2953.8573 | Um, my retirement city was New Orleans. | 2956.1015 |
2927 | DCB_int_01 | 2956.5065 | Mm. [/Okay./] | 2957.1145 |
2928 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2956.8187 | [That's where I was] gonna be. | 2958.1393 |
2929 | DCB_int_01 | 2957.2269 | [/? that's-/] | 2957.6111 |
2930 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2958.5795 | That's where I was gonna be I was gonna be in- | 2960.0599 |
2932 | | 2960.1720 | in New Orleans | 2960.8963 |
2934 | | 2961.2685 | um, | 2961.7725 |
2936 | | 2962.0168 | and | 2962.4330 |
2938 | | 2962.6651 | this was like twenty years ago I had made that decision [so it had] nothing to do with Katrina and the levees and nothing like that I was in love with | 2969.2079 |
2939 | DCB_int_01 | 2965.1741 | [Mm.] | 2965.5381 |
2940 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2969.6961 | the Garden District of New Orleans and that's where I was gonna retire. | 2973.1215 |
2942 | | 2975.3105 | Then | 2976.2838 |
2944 | | 2976.5870 | I | 2977.1632 |
2946 | | 2977.3313 | ended up | 2978.1557 |
2948 | | 2978.3678 | in | 2979.1762 |
2950 | | 2979.3803 | Tucson | 2979.9523 |
2952 | | 2980.1844 | for | 2980.6646 |
2954 | | 2981.1048 | work [a couple] of times /and was like,/ | 2982.7656 |
2955 | DCB_int_01 | 2981.6131 | [Mm-hm.] | 2981.9252 |
2956 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2983.1097 | mm-mm. | 2983.5498 |
2958 | | 2984.1742 | I'm retiring in Tucson. | 2985.8629 |
2959 | DCB_int_01 | 2985.8629 | <laugh> | 2986.0549 |
2960 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 2986.0750 | This is where I'm going. | 2987.2836 |
2962 | | 2987.6317 | No allergies, | 2989.1842 |
2964 | | 2989.3042 | I only had to deal with monsoon season three weeks out of the year, | 2992.8539 |
2966 | | 2993.1620 | I got mountains, I got horses cause I love horseback riding, | 2997.3078 |
2968 | | 2997.6317 | I got all this going on, | 2998.8563 |
2970 | | 2998.9964 | I'm going to Tucson. | 3000.0448 |
2972 | | 3000.7092 | /I-/ well. | 3001.8217 |
2974 | | 3002.1578 | I don't know where I'm gonna end up. | 3003.4904 |
2976 | | 3003.7783 | I don't know. | 3004.4026 |
2978 | | 3004.5707 | Um, | 3005.0320 |
2980 | | 3005.6032 | DC, I'll be happy to move away from this area | 3008.8767 |
2982 | | 3009.8129 | at some point. | 3010.6302 |
2984 | | 3010.8493 | Even if it is after- the twins are thirteen, | 3013.4105 |
2986 | | 3013.8107 | after they're in college or whatever they're gonna do with their lives. | 3016.2756 |
2988 | | 3016.8879 | Um, | 3017.3961 |
2990 | | 3018.0564 | I've seen a lot of changes in this city from the sev- | 3021.0897 |
2992 | | 3021.2178 | from the sixties. | 3021.9858 |
2994 | | 3022.2261 | I mean I was here when the riots were going on. | 3024.2032 |
2995 | DCB_int_01 | 3024.2110 | [Right.] | 3024.4712 |
2996 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3024.3071 | [I] remember | 3025.2915 |
2997 | | 3026.1758 | when the riots were going on I was | 3028.1808 |
2999 | | 3028.2886 | three. | 3028.6087 |
3001 | | 3029.2610 | And I remember the fires | 3031.0584 |
3003 | | 3031.3300 | and | 3031.8022 |
3005 | | 3031.9022 | at that time we hadn't moved to Deanwood the house hadn't been built yet, it was being built. | 3036.1398 |
3007 | | 3036.7122 | And we lived at Fourteenth and Chapin Northwest. | 3040.0097 |
3009 | | 3040.1576 | [So there] was a Safeway there on Fourteenth Street and some other businesses. | 3044.4155 |
3010 | DCB_int_01 | 3040.1616 | [Mm-hm.] | 3040.6469 |
3011 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3044.8516 | I remember my father | 3046.3763 |
3013 | | 3046.4804 | walking us down Four- | 3047.5008 |
3015 | | 3047.6169 | walking me down- | 3048.4413 |
3017 | | 3048.8612 | sorry. | 3049.2666 |
3019 | | 3049.7016 | Um, Chapin Street to Fourteen, | 3051.4864 |
3021 | | 3051.8586 | and then two blocks over there was a Safeway. | 3053.7955 |
3023 | | 3054.3316 | And | 3054.8770 |
3025 | | 3055.1160 | I remember him putting me on his shoulders and we watched that Safeway burn down. | 3058.6174 |
3027 | | 3059.6298 | And my mother was livid. | 3060.6623 |
3029 | | 3060.7864 | Because you know it was dangerous, and he had her child out there. | 3064.3239 |
3031 | | 3064.5800 | So I remember the riots, I remember you know | 3067.7652 |
3033 | | 3068.2014 | the fires, the looting, I remember that. | 3070.8266 |
3034 | DCB_int_01 | 3071.3669 | Even as a young [child?] | 3072.5552 |
3035 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3072.2591 | [I remember] that cause I remember seeing it, it was so | 3075.3885 |
3036 | | 3075.4966 | overwhelming, now I don't remem- | 3076.9052 |
3038 | | 3077.1732 | there are things from me being four and five I don't remember. | 3079.9705 |
3039 | DCB_int_01 | 3080.4225 | [But that's vivid.] | 3081.3665 |
3040 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3080.4745 | [Um, but there] are f- some things from- | 3083.1077 |
3041 | | 3083.7080 | from living at that apartment when I was young I do remember. | 3086.8093 |
3042 | DCB_int_01 | 3086.8612 | [Mm-hm.] | 3087.3199 |
3043 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3086.9012 | [There are some] things I did I do remember. | 3088.7701 |
3044 | | 3089.1263 | Um, but that's one of the things I definitely remember those. | 3091.7595 |
3045 | DCB_int_01 | 3092.3275 | And how do you feel like- | 3094.0163 |
3047 | | 3094.2324 | thinking about- So this is- now we're | 3096.2133 |
3049 | | 3096.3093 | thirty years later, | 3097.2658 |
3051 | | 3097.6018 | thirty five years later, | 3098.7405 |
3053 | | 3099.5027 | [and l-] | 3100.1230 |
3054 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3099.5067 | [Oh we're longer] than that. | 3100.8520 |
3055 | DCB_int_01 | 3101.2312 | looking- | 3101.5792 |
3057 | | 3102.4038 | [Oh well you were four.] | 3103.3198 |
3058 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3102.4278 | [We're almost fifty. <laugh>] | 3106.0975 |
3059 | DCB_int_01 | 3103.5443 | [Yeah okay.] | 3104.0886 |
3061 | | 3104.2126 | [My bad.] | 3104.6768 |
3063 | | 3104.7849 | [My math was off. I'm sorry.] | 3106.1935 |
3064 | | 3106.6815 | Uh, okay. | 3107.5859 |
3066 | | 3107.6860 | So forty f- [seven-ish years later.] | 3110.1951 |
3067 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3108.6424 | [Mm-hm, f- uh-huh.] | 3110.0791 |
3068 | DCB_int_01 | 3110.7914 | Um, | 3111.3477 |
3070 | | 3112.0319 | you know | 3112.4441 |
3072 | | 3112.8723 | it used to be chocolate city. | 3114.2529 |
3074 | | 3114.5209 | Now we see a very- | 3115.8942 |
3076 | | 3116.5578 | Kind of how do you see the city | 3118.0705 |
3078 | | 3118.7186 | physically changing | 3119.9986 |
3079 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3119.9552 | [Mm-hm.] | 3120.5394 |
3080 | DCB_int_01 | 3120.0952 | [demographically] changing? | 3121.8200 |
3081 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3121.8921 | Mm-hm. | 3122.3001 |
3082 | DCB_int_01 | 3122.2842 | How do you feel like that's affecting the city especially like, | 3124.4733 |
3083 | | 3124.7571 | the same- your childhood home, | 3126.4025 |
3085 | | 3126.6700 | how many people can say | 3127.8314 |
3087 | | 3128.2948 | their family still owns their childhood [homes?] | 3130.5297 |
3088 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3130.4456 | [Right] because it's- it- | 3132.0824 |
3089 | | 3134.1811 | it's nothing- | 3135.1598 |
3091 | | 3135.3177 | DC is nothing | 3136.5622 |
3093 | | 3136.9744 | like it was when I was a child. | 3138.8671 |
3095 | | 3139.0471 | It's nothing, the buildings are all different, | 3141.3002 |
3097 | | 3141.7524 | um, things you know | 3143.2331 |
3099 | | 3143.4489 | streets are different, they look different, people who live here are different. | 3146.9626 |
3101 | | 3147.3427 | It's hard to find someone who is originally from DC. | 3150.7882 |
3103 | | 3151.2084 | It's- DC is now full of transplants | 3153.0533 |
3105 | | 3153.3051 | who can't park. | 3154.2651 |
3107 | | 3154.6417 | They don't know how to parallel park. | 3155.6897 |
3109 | | 3155.9583 | because they're coming from places where /you/ just pulled in parking. | 3158.3675 |
3111 | | 3158.6594 | So | 3158.9460 |
3113 | | 3159.0876 | you know [back in the day], | 3160.6323 |
3114 | DCB_int_01 | 3159.5318 | [I'm one of those.] | 3160.3361 |
3115 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3161.2606 | people's bumpers were not torn up the w- I hate come park- | 3164.2778 |
3117 | | 3164.3979 | /bringing/ | 3164.8219 |
3119 | | 3164.9341 | my vehicle into the city because | 3166.5389 |
3121 | | 3166.6827 | people don't know how to park, they feel like parallel parking | 3169.5560 |
3123 | | 3169.9922 | you- you know, | 3170.8446 |
3125 | | 3171.2568 | when you bump somebody's car, | 3172.5454 |
3127 | | 3172.6375 | that's when you stop | 3173.3495 |
3129 | | 3173.4776 | and pull forward | 3174.1539 |
3130 | DCB_int_01 | 3174.6071 | Mm. | 3174.7302 |
3131 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3174.7892 | when you're parking and it's like- | 3176.3779 |
3133 | | 3176.7761 | [<laugh>] | 3177.3695 |
3134 | DCB_int_01 | 3176.9792 | [Be like, no] that's not- | 3177.9379 |
3135 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3177.9437 | [Yeah.] | 3178.4637 |
3136 | DCB_int_01 | 3178.1438 | [Mm-mm.] | 3178.5118 |
3137 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3178.7198 | So um, but it's full of transplants it's full of- like you said it was chocolate city, it was you know- | 3183.4918 |
3139 | | 3184.2381 | you know we were in the city, | 3185.7728 |
3141 | | 3186.4111 | and everyone else was on the suburbs. Now it's | 3188.3840 |
3143 | | 3188.4760 | we've moved out of the city because | 3190.3129 |
3145 | | 3190.7408 | we can't afford to live here anymore. | 3192.5195 |
3147 | | 3193.7102 | You know | 3193.9916 |
3149 | | 3194.3745 | homes | 3194.9892 |
3151 | | 3195.6269 | in bad neighborhoods | 3196.9955 |
3153 | | 3197.1115 | cost a million dollars. | 3198.4075 |
3155 | | 3198.7243 | That is crazy. | 3199.8888 |
3157 | | 3200.8570 | That is crazy, I remember um, | 3202.5938 |
3159 | | 3203.4462 | maybe about fifteen years ago | 3205.1550 |
3161 | | 3205.6873 | my aunt lived in Sh- | 3206.6077 |
3163 | | 3206.6915 | the Shaw neighborhood. | 3207.5879 |
3164 | DCB_int_01 | 3207.6920 | Mm-hm. | 3208.1093 |
3165 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3208.2722 | And there were these three houses on R Street | 3212.3461 |
3167 | | 3212.8063 | between | 3213.4784 |
3169 | | 3213.6064 | like Rhode Island and R cause R kind of is like diagonal. | 3216.7519 |
3171 | | 3217.3642 | And | 3217.7042 |
3173 | | 3217.9763 | there were these three houses on the left hand side, | 3220.2414 |
3175 | | 3220.6216 | and I looked up those houses and they were like a million point two. | 3223.9349 |
3176 | DCB_int_01 | 3225.2915 | Wow. | 3225.6476 |
3177 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3226.2439 | And Rhode Island and R street | 3227.8086 |
3179 | | 3228.4007 | ten years ago, ten, fifteen years ago. | 3230.2535 |
3181 | | 3230.3976 | And it's- that's just crazy. | 3231.5749 |
3183 | | 3231.9823 | And um- | 3232.9610 |
3185 | | 3233.7029 | I mean I like | 3234.8535 |
3187 | | 3234.9995 | the- | 3235.5555 |
3189 | | 3235.8199 | the- | 3236.0280 |
3191 | | 3236.4602 | the- | 3237.0495 |
3193 | | 3237.2245 | you know the building and development that's being done with | 3239.7336 |
3195 | | 3239.8736 | like the whole little | 3240.9581 |
3197 | | 3241.4461 | condos and- and apartments and they're very pretty and- | 3245.3359 |
3199 | | 3245.6841 | and they look really nice, | 3246.9086 |
3201 | | 3247.5367 | but who can afford to live in 'em? | 3248.9893 |
3202 | DCB_int_01 | 3249.4295 | Mm-hm. | 3249.8495 |
3203 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3250.4140 | You know, an- and I know people who have been forced out of their homes because now | 3254.7558 |
3205 | | 3255.1039 | you know it's been re- their neighborhood has been rezoned and taxes have gone up | 3259.6380 |
3207 | | 3259.7298 | and they just cannot afford to live in the city anymore. | 3262.9553 |
3209 | | 3263.2274 | And that's a shame. | 3263.9958 |
3210 | DCB_int_01 | 3264.4838 | [Mm.] | 3264.6719 |
3211 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3264.6198 | Because most of the people who are being moved out are | 3266.4887 |
3212 | | 3266.9609 | elderly people. | 3267.8182 |
3213 | DCB_int_01 | 3268.0894 | Mm-hm. | 3268.4961 |
3215 | | 3269.1218 | And that's why when you said your dad- | 3270.5418 |
3217 | | 3270.7506 | that | 3270.9867 |
3219 | | 3271.2908 | you know | 3271.6268 |
3221 | | 3271.9231 | you guys still have your family home | 3273.3197 |
3222 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3273.4596 | Right. | 3273.7717 |
3223 | DCB_int_01 | 3273.8717 | shocked me, I mean I love that. | 3275.5878 |
3224 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3275.7966 | [Right well], | 3276.4289 |
3225 | DCB_int_01 | 3275.8767 | [But it's-] | 3276.3993 |
3226 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3276.7771 | we- it was built in the sixties, | 3278.5819 |
3228 | | 3279.6168 | and they built it and it's been paid off. I mean | 3281.8899 |
3230 | | 3282.2593 | that was one thing my father was about, | 3284.3753 |
3232 | | 3284.5763 | money and | 3285.6648 |
3234 | | 3285.7529 | having more than what he came here with, my father always worked two jobs even when he didn't have to. | 3291.1072 |
3236 | | 3291.6632 | And so | 3292.6277 |
3238 | | 3292.8478 | the house was paid o- they got a thirty year mortgage and that house was paid off in thirty years, there was no second mortgage on it there was nothing. | 3299.5588 |
3240 | | 3299.7826 | He was determined | 3300.5990 |
3242 | | 3300.9952 | that | 3301.2953 |
3244 | | 3301.7075 | he paid his bills and paid 'em on time. | 3303.4603 |
3245 | DCB_int_01 | 3303.8805 | Mm-hm. | 3304.3608 |
3246 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3304.3608 | So, | 3304.8181 |
3247 | | 3305.1609 | you know for the past twenty | 3308.2790 |
3249 | | 3309.4869 | three years | 3310.5269 |
3251 | | 3311.1514 | that house has been payed for | 3312.3079 |
3253 | | 3313.1243 | and it's his. | 3313.8216 |
3254 | DCB_int_01 | 3314.7651 | [Mm-hm.] | 3315.1212 |
3255 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3315.0052 | [Now] my parents are separated | 3316.0777 |
3256 | | 3316.4336 | Um, [they been separated] for over twenty years but | 3318.5186 |
3257 | DCB_int_01 | 3316.6137 | [Oh okay.] | 3317.0379 |
3258 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3319.0428 | they'll never get divorced. | 3320.1873 |
3260 | | 3320.8476 | And | 3321.6240 |
3262 | | 3322.0680 | um, | 3322.5293 |
3264 | | 3322.6802 | you know, my mother | 3323.4936 |
3266 | | 3323.6047 | moved out | 3324.1569 |
3268 | | 3324.3690 | and bought a condo not far from here | 3325.8657 |
3269 | DCB_int_01 | 3326.0610 | Mm. | 3326.2971 |
3270 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3326.4179 | and um- | 3327.2845 |
3272 | | 3327.5024 | But I mean we still all go to the house, my mother- you know we're- | 3330.0595 |
3274 | | 3330.1352 | we're all welcome there. | 3331.2942 |
3276 | | 3331.7069 | But | 3332.0310 |
3278 | | 3332.1271 | m- | 3332.2631 |
3280 | | 3332.3792 | that house is still in my parents' name. | 3333.7529 |
3282 | | 3335.1175 | And it's payed for free and clear. | 3336.7303 |
3283 | DCB_int_01 | 3338.1908 | And [that's just] amazing [to me like-] | 3339.8375 |
3284 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3338.3629 | [/But-/] | 3338.5909 |
3286 | | 3339.2713 | [Uh-huh. <laugh>] | 3341.0281 |
3287 | DCB_int_01 | 3340.0277 | [and] | 3340.2558 |
3289 | | 3340.3478 | [you don't hear-] I mean like that's a really- | 3342.1606 |
3290 | | 3342.2404 | that's a very unique | 3343.5330 |
3292 | | 3343.9212 | kind of story because you do hear | 3346.1302 |
3294 | | 3346.5824 | you know, I had to sell my house, or I had to move away, for whatever reason but | 3350.4161 |
3296 | | 3350.6522 | gentrification is a real thing like it- it's- it's- it's knocking on people's doors literally and figuratively like | 3356.7468 |
3298 | | 3356.9081 | now. | 3357.3763 |
3299 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3357.4363 | Mm-hm. | 3357.9406 |
3300 | DCB_int_01 | 3358.0526 | As we speak. | 3358.8730 |
3301 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3358.8330 | [Mm-hm.] | 3359.5930 |
3302 | DCB_int_01 | 3359.1051 | [And so] to hear that- and I know | 3361.2181 |
3303 | | 3361.8984 | you know | 3362.2877 |
3305 | | 3362.7010 | um, | 3363.2493 |
3307 | | 3363.3814 | as more and more time it's gonna come | 3364.9061 |
3309 | | 3365.2422 | farther and farther across the river you know it was slow to- | 3367.6729 |
3311 | | 3367.8632 | to [really branch] and | 3369.1398 |
3312 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3368.0393 | [Mm-hm.] | 3368.5435 |
3313 | DCB_int_01 | 3369.2518 | come | 3369.5520 |
3315 | | 3369.9482 | cross that water [but now it's-] it's here. | 3372.0651 |
3316 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3370.7725 | [Right.] | 3371.3379 |
3318 | | 3372.0331 | Right. | 3372.2532 |
3319 | | 3372.6654 | The only reason my aunt, the one that raised my mother, | 3374.9422 |
3321 | | 3375.6625 | /?/ um, | 3376.2159 |
3323 | | 3376.3909 | she died in two thousand seven. | 3378.9801 |
3325 | | 3380.6767 | And she was eighty five then. | 3381.8013 |
3326 | DCB_int_01 | 3382.0092 | [Mm-hm.] | 3382.2814 |
3327 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3382.0252 | [The] only reason she was able to still stay in the city | 3385.6709 |
3328 | | 3386.0709 | was because uh, we're members of | 3387.8357 |
3330 | | 3388.2599 | Asbury United Methodist Church. | 3389.7726 |
3332 | | 3389.8446 | So it's a big church and there's a lot of money in that church. | 3392.7416 |
3334 | | 3393.1100 | And they own | 3394.1825 |
3336 | | 3394.7225 | Asbury Dwellings which is on Rhode Island | 3397.0478 |
3338 | | 3397.4278 | Avenue near Seventh Street, Rhode Island and Seventh Street. | 3399.9848 |
3340 | | 3400.3890 | And so she was able | 3402.1058 |
3342 | | 3402.2018 | you know | 3402.5045 |
3344 | | 3403.0820 | to move into Asbury Dwellings | 3405.0589 |
3346 | | 3405.1550 | and pay minimal rent there. | 3406.8678 |
3348 | | 3407.1479 | Because she had been retired for so many years | 3408.9927 |
3350 | | 3409.2646 | that was the only way she was able to stay [in the city.] | 3411.2175 |
3351 | DCB_int_01 | 3410.5412 | [In the city.] | 3411.1705 |
3352 | | 3412.5702 | Yeah. | 3412.9141 |
3354 | | 3413.2865 | Wow. | 3413.6226 |
3356 | | 3413.9946 | So | 3414.5708 |
3358 | | 3414.9990 | how do you f- do- have you done- | 3416.6657 |
3360 | | 3416.7879 | have you been a tourist in your city? | 3418.3406 |
3362 | | 3418.6327 | You know a lot of people come from all over the world to do the monuments and the museums and- | 3421.9500 |
3363 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3422.2021 | [Mm-hm.] | 3423.1386 |
3364 | DCB_int_01 | 3422.3502 | [and you're down the street], do you- | 3423.6948 |
3365 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3423.9389 | [Mm-mm.] | 3424.4122 |
3366 | DCB_int_01 | 3424.0110 | [have you] done those things? | 3425.5474 |
3367 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3425.5076 | You know the last time I been in the Washington Monument I was in second grade, | 3428.7609 |
3368 | | 3428.8530 | I was eight years old. | 3429.4812 |
3369 | DCB_int_01 | 3430.0175 | Why? | 3430.2656 |
3370 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3430.8698 | Um, I guess because I take it for granted, | 3433.1068 |
3372 | | 3433.2789 | [because I've] grown up with it [and it's no] big deal. | 3435.6149 |
3373 | DCB_int_01 | 3433.3548 | [Mm-hm.] | 3433.6628 |
3375 | | 3434.7034 | [Mm-hm.] | 3435.0634 |
3376 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3436.0360 | When I was working at | 3437.2083 |
3378 | | 3437.3324 | National Children's Alliance and I was the | 3439.7855 |
3380 | | 3439.8856 | you know, the c- | 3440.4458 |
3382 | | 3440.6179 | coordinator of the conference, their annual conference, and so there would be five hundred people from across the united states coming in. | 3445.8881 |
3384 | | 3446.3603 | And they'd always call me about | 3448.1363 |
3386 | | 3448.3730 | if the cherry blossoms are blooming, will they be in bloom when [the-] | 3451.2570 |
3387 | DCB_int_01 | 3450.9462 | [Mm.] | 3451.2583 |
3388 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3451.6145 | when the- you know the conference is there, you know they asking me about those damn pandas, I'm like, I don't care about the damn [pandas.] | 3458.0532 |
3389 | DCB_int_01 | 3457.6889 | [<laugh>] | 3459.0376 |
3390 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3458.3973 | [And that's because I'm] here with it and I see it every day and I guess I take it for granted. | 3462.1870 |
3391 | | 3462.4832 | And every once in a while I'll stop | 3464.0636 |
3393 | | 3464.2077 | and take- | 3464.6439 |
3395 | | 3464.7880 | you know if I'm driving downtown for something | 3466.7889 |
3397 | | 3467.1891 | um, and go that way especially at night cause DC is [beautiful at] night. The monuments and all the white stone, it's just beautiful at night. | 3474.5202 |
3398 | DCB_int_01 | 3470.3303 | [Beautiful.] | 3470.7436 |
3399 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3474.8762 | And I'll stop and take a pause and | 3476.6610 |
3401 | | 3476.7890 | you know. | 3477.0732 |
3403 | | 3477.4413 | Um, I l- | 3478.1697 |
3405 | | 3478.2657 | my kids love the FDR memorial. | 3480.4707 |
3406 | DCB_int_01 | 3480.4185 | It's my favorite one. | 3481.4069 |
3407 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3481.7031 | Um, | 3482.0192 |
3409 | | 3482.1233 | love it so we'll go down there- | 3484.0482 |
3410 | DCB_int_01 | 3483.3598 | [I can sit at night] and sit in there [for hours.] | 3485.5609 |
3411 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3484.8245 | [And just walk] through it. | 3486.5973 |
3412 | DCB_int_01 | 3486.1211 | [Yup.] | 3486.3784 |
3413 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3486.7011 | And um- | 3487.5851 |
3415 | | 3487.8177 | and it gets me angry that they don't take care of it like they should. | 3490.7870 |
3417 | | 3491.2672 | Um, | 3491.8153 |
3419 | | 3492.0153 | you know FDR, | 3492.7717 |
3421 | | 3493.1519 | he should not be you know- | 3494.7286 |
3423 | | 3494.8847 | it's brass, he should not be all rusted up like that n- and- but- | 3498.6224 |
3425 | | 3499.3106 | And then they don't have all the fountains going [all the time] and that just makes me angry when they could take care of it. | 3504.2047 |
3426 | DCB_int_01 | 3501.2314 | [All the time.] | 3502.0157 |
3427 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3504.7488 | But um, | 3505.5011 |
3429 | | 3505.5971 | well Teddy Roosevelt Island's the same way too, they [don't take care] of that one [either /over there./] | 3509.3382 |
3430 | DCB_int_01 | 3507.6301 | [Mm-hm.] | 3508.0061 |
3432 | | 3508.3944 | [Yeah no it's really] bad. | 3509.6944 |
3433 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3509.6270 | Yeah. | 3509.9603 |
3434 | | 3510.5193 | Um, | 3510.9900 |
3436 | | 3511.1944 | <ts> but every once and a while I'll stop and I'll pause and I'll take a look you know I don't go into the Smithsonians, my kids do, | 3516.3029 |
3438 | | 3516.7512 | but I did that when I was growing up | 3518.5512 |
3440 | | 3518.9167 | and it's just like | 3519.6436 |
3442 | | 3520.1736 | again, | 3520.6190 |
3444 | | 3520.7063 | take it for granted because it's right there in my backyard and I | 3523.0485 |
3446 | | 3523.3110 | could care less about it and I don't like crowds and | 3525.5775 |
3448 | | 3526.0722 | mm-mm, I'm [sorry.] | 3527.1815 |
3449 | DCB_int_01 | 3526.8875 | [Yeah.] | 3527.1904 |
3450 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3527.2813 | <laugh> | 3528.4271 |
3451 | DCB_int_01 | 3528.4120 | My favorite time to go is like a random just afternoon | 3531.0920 |
3452 | | 3531.2590 | [like] | 3531.6022 |
3453 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3531.3700 | [Mm-hm.] | 3531.9909 |
3454 | DCB_int_01 | 3532.0818 | during the school- not during the summer but during like | 3534.2500 |
3456 | | 3534.3509 | the school year [when kids are-] | 3535.5977 |
3457 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3534.8557 | [Right.] | 3535.4816 |
3458 | DCB_int_01 | 3535.9511 | like in August or September. | 3537.3167 |
3460 | | 3537.4126 | Like no school trip is in September so | 3539.4822 |
3462 | | 3539.7901 | it's not gonna be a thousand kids running around. | 3541.8042 |
3463 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3541.8295 | Right. | 3542.3140 |
3465 | | 3542.4100 | And [that's the only thing.] | 3543.3034 |
3466 | DCB_int_01 | 3542.5917 | [You can do everything.] | 3543.4717 |
3467 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3543.6493 | I don't like crowds. | 3544.5882 |
3469 | | 3544.8002 | I stay away from crowds. And so when it's tourist season and all those | 3547.7431 |
3471 | | 3547.8643 | buses are down there and all those people are down there I stay away. | 3550.7694 |
3472 | DCB_int_01 | 3550.7795 | Oh [mm-mm.] | 3551.4156 |
3473 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3551.2137 | [You know] I have- | 3551.7163 |
3474 | | 3551.9305 | I know certain places where I can park, I can park legally | 3555.2345 |
3476 | | 3555.6507 | and | 3556.3978 |
3478 | | 3556.5822 | the- | 3556.7538 |
3480 | | 3556.9305 | near where I wanna go, | 3558.3489 |
3482 | | 3558.4549 | and those /are where/ | 3559.4191 |
3484 | | 3559.6361 | you know I'll do that so I don't have to deal with the crowds. | 3562.2005 |
3485 | DCB_int_01 | 3562.5867 | So one thing you said before we started the interview, | 3564.8785 |
3487 | | 3565.4741 | is about | 3566.1141 |
3489 | | 3566.6048 | you knew /RD-NAME-1/ wasn't here and- and we were talk- you said the mannerisms. | 3569.9895 |
3491 | | 3570.2621 | What about DC and DC people is unique? | 3573.6569 |
3493 | | 3573.8487 | Like | 3574.0254 |
3495 | | 3574.1769 | that you feel- | 3575.0299 |
3499 | | 3579.2274 | what do you mean by that? | 3580.0607 |
3500 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3580.6610 | And you know I don't | 3581.7036 |
3502 | | 3582.0895 | [even- I can't put my finger] on it, I think | 3584.3509 |
3503 | DCB_int_01 | 3582.1147 | [You can't put your finger on it.] | 3583.4878 |
3504 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3584.5428 | that | 3585.1687 |
3506 | | 3585.6155 | me being from DC, | 3587.2914 |
3508 | | 3588.3212 | you know | 3588.5745 |
3510 | | 3588.7048 | I'm a native- m- my mother says I'm a native Washingtonian | 3591.5035 |
3512 | | 3592.3066 | with | 3592.6448 |
3514 | | 3593.1345 | one parent from South Carolina, one parent from North Carolina, | 3596.1127 |
3516 | | 3596.6757 | um, and me living in Richmond | 3598.3970 |
3518 | | 3598.5080 | I've got a lot of Southern influence | 3600.5877 |
3520 | | 3600.8175 | within me. | 3601.3935 |
3522 | | 3601.6101 | And so | 3602.5994 |
3524 | | 3603.5232 | uh, it's just | 3604.6179 |
3526 | | 3606.4132 | I usually can tell | 3607.7239 |
3528 | | 3608.1497 | when someone- especially someone my age | 3611.2339 |
3530 | | 3611.6630 | or someone forty or over | 3614.0830 |
3532 | | 3614.7689 | I can usually tell | 3615.9169 |
3534 | | 3616.2378 | if they're from DC or not | 3617.4498 |
3536 | | 3617.7421 | or if they | 3618.2216 |
3538 | | 3618.5346 | you know migrated here from South or if they came from like the Ohio Valley here. | 3622.6421 |
3539 | DCB_int_01 | 3623.5901 | So let me ask you about two things that are | 3625.6900 |
3541 | | 3625.8869 | <clears throat> DC things. | 3627.3776 |
3543 | | 3627.8291 | Go go music? | 3628.5251 |
3544 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3629.5278 | So go go music was popular | 3631.2138 |
3546 | | 3631.3855 | actually when I was away in college. | 3633.0866 |
3547 | DCB_int_01 | 3633.6822 | So you didn't really get into [the go go scene?] | 3635.6143 |
3548 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3634.6856 | [I did- I mean I knew] about it, we listen- I listened to it some but it wasn't a big thing for me just because of the timing of it and that I wasn't | 3641.7350 |
3549 | | 3642.3345 | here when it was a big [thing.] | 3643.6652 |
3550 | DCB_int_01 | 3643.4047 | [When it] | 3643.6607 |
3551 | | 3644.1114 | blew up. | 3644.5909 |
3552 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3644.1416 | [When it blew] up I wasn't here. | 3645.7570 |
3553 | | 3646.2870 | Right. | 3646.5803 |
3555 | | 3646.7641 | So- | 3647.1908 |
3557 | | 3647.4456 | and for me | 3648.5056 |
3559 | | 3649.0760 | uh, of course I know who Chuck Brown is, father of go go and | 3652.2966 |
3561 | | 3652.4632 | l- liked the music, | 3653.7251 |
3563 | | 3654.7020 | but just because of the timing | 3656.1659 |
3565 | | 3656.4688 | I was more into his later | 3658.0648 |
3567 | | 3658.2961 | stuff | 3658.7050 |
3568 | DCB_int_01 | 3658.7958 | [Mm-hm.] | 3659.2358 |
3569 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3659.0054 | [than] the earlier stuff or the part where it really blew up. | 3661.5193 |
3570 | DCB_int_01 | 3662.1099 | So | 3662.4819 |
3572 | | 3662.7055 | do you still- But even now that- [I mean go go] still it- it's most definitely when you talk about DC that's- | 3667.6096 |
3573 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3664.2881 | [Mm-hm.] | 3664.9040 |
3574 | DCB_int_01 | 3667.7712 | either you love it or you hate it. [Like it's a] DC thing, | 3670.0780 |
3575 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3668.8161 | [Mm-hm.] | 3669.2454 |
3576 | DCB_int_01 | 3670.3355 | either you love it or you hate it. | 3671.3821 |
3577 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3671.5294 | [Mm-hm.] | 3671.9383 |
3578 | DCB_int_01 | 3671.8020 | [Um], | 3672.5491 |
3579 | | 3673.2962 | and | 3674.0268 |
3581 | | 3674.5480 | do you still appreciate it like even the stuff that- the later stuff? | 3678.2356 |
3582 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3678.2154 | Mm-hm. | 3678.5421 |
3583 | DCB_int_01 | 3678.7505 | Um, do you listen to it | 3679.9872 |
3585 | | 3680.1336 | often? | 3680.8756 |
3587 | | 3680.9867 | Not so often? | 3681.9206 |
3588 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3681.9508 | I don't- | 3682.3648 |
3590 | | 3682.9732 | an- and I'm a little different cause I'm not either the love or the hate, | 3686.0423 |
3591 | DCB_int_01 | 3686.1432 | [You kind of just right-] | 3687.1552 |
3592 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3686.2593 | [/I can say-/ I'm right in the middle.] | 3688.4097 |
3593 | DCB_int_01 | 3687.2941 | [just /?/] | 3687.7181 |
3595 | | 3687.8443 | [take it or leave] it? | 3688.6671 |
3596 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3688.7998 | If it's on, | 3689.7943 |
3598 | | 3690.0113 | I will listen to it. | 3691.0764 |
3600 | | 3691.4298 | Um, | 3692.1778 |
3602 | | 3692.4343 | I won't go- it comes on and then I'm like, I don't wanna hear that, it's not like that, or I go seek it out. | 3697.1370 |
3604 | | 3697.2374 | If [it's on or] if I'm at a party and it's playing, yes I'm gonna dance yes I'm gonna enjoy it, | 3701.6240 |
3605 | DCB_int_01 | 3697.4141 | [Mm mm-hm.] | 3698.1915 |
3606 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3701.9017 | but I don't seek it out. | 3702.7901 |
3608 | | 3703.6105 | And it was funny cause when I was in Chicago last weekend with my husband | 3706.4423 |
3610 | | 3706.8310 | and um, | 3707.5390 |
3612 | | 3707.7322 | they have house [music.] | 3709.1506 |
3613 | DCB_int_01 | 3708.9841 | [Mm-hm.] | 3709.4131 |
3614 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3710.0290 | You know, and my husband introduced me a few years ago to house music. | 3713.4702 |
3616 | | 3713.9057 | And I was like, | 3714.7057 |
3618 | | 3714.8574 | that's not right cause it's supposed to be go go, he was like, no you all have go go we have house, and so when um, | 3719.8405 |
3620 | | 3720.1855 | we were hanging out with some of his friends this weekend and we were at a bar and they were playing house music | 3724.8245 |
3622 | | 3725.3495 | and uh- | 3726.0588 |
3624 | | 3726.2052 | and so one of th- | 3727.1239 |
3626 | | 3727.2400 | the ladies asked me, | 3728.5222 |
3628 | | 3729.4863 | you're from DC? and I said, yeah, she goes, | 3731.5509 |
3630 | | 3731.7492 | do y'all have this? | 3732.5922 |
3632 | | 3732.7386 | No we have- I was proud to say, no we have go go. [<laugh>] | 3736.9372 |
3633 | DCB_int_01 | 3735.4190 | [Right?] | 3735.6916 |
3635 | | 3735.9490 | [At that moment like, no.] | 3737.0797 |
3636 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3737.2110 | No [we don't have this, we have go go.] | 3739.0282 |
3637 | DCB_int_01 | 3737.6098 | [No no. We don't have this.] | 3739.3462 |
3638 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3739.2503 | [It's] a little bit slower, and a little more- | 3741.2670 |
3639 | | 3741.3781 | you know have more beat to it than this kind of | 3743.4174 |
3640 | DCB_int_01 | 3743.9374 | This little <bass sounds> yeah. | 3745.9137 |
3641 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3745.0505 | [Like kind of like mindless], to me it's a little mindless [you know?] | 3748.4427 |
3642 | DCB_int_01 | 3747.9934 | [All I can] think about is like the | 3749.1999 |
3643 | | 3749.3614 | colorful lights just flashing | 3750.6134 |
3645 | | 3750.9414 | [like just] crazy. | 3752.3346 |
3646 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3751.0524 | [Yeah.] | 3751.7742 |
3647 | | 3752.4231 | Yeah. | 3752.8875 |
3648 | DCB_int_01 | 3752.9783 | That's what I think about when I think about house music whereas go go I think | 3756.1611 |
3650 | | 3756.5094 | percussion. I [think a lot] of like [congos] I think | 3759.2100 |
3651 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3757.1858 | [Yeah.] | 3757.7978 |
3653 | | 3758.0440 | [Yes.] | 3758.8213 |
3654 | | 3759.5028 | [Yes.] | 3760.0748 |
3655 | DCB_int_01 | 3759.7350 | [um], the cowbe- I think a lot of that is what | 3762.6350 |
3656 | | 3762.9757 | reminds me of [go go.] | 3764.6846 |
3657 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3764.1899 | [Mm-hm mm-hm.] | 3765.3992 |
3658 | DCB_int_01 | 3765.1742 | [Um], and then the other one, | 3766.6075 |
3659 | | 3766.8652 | mumbo sauce. | 3767.8212 |
3660 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3768.4579 | I'm not into m- | 3769.5180 |
3662 | | 3769.7452 | you know I'm on- again, I can take it or leave it. | 3772.0520 |
3664 | | 3772.7587 | I can take it or leave it. | 3774.1620 |
3666 | | 3774.5507 | Um, | 3774.9697 |
3668 | | 3775.3346 | And the thing about n- | 3776.6723 |
3670 | | 3777.4092 | back in the day | 3778.2692 |
3672 | | 3778.4441 | mumbo sauce was mumbo sauce, | 3780.0846 |
3673 | DCB_int_01 | 3780.2461 | Mm-hm. | 3780.6555 |
3674 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3780.7156 | now depending on what- which | 3782.3763 |
3676 | | 3782.4951 | restaurant you go to it'll be orange, it'll be brown, it'll be purple, it'll be light, it'll be dark, it's not | 3788.8503 |
3678 | | 3789.1366 | consistent anymore. | 3790.5046 |
3679 | DCB_int_01 | 3791.3173 | Is [there one] type of place you get it or [you can get it anywhere] now you feel like it's just- | 3795.5654 |
3680 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3791.5372 | [So.] | 3792.0016 |
3682 | | 3793.6927 | [No.] | 3794.2327 |
3683 | DCB_int_01 | 3795.8885 | well it used to be a specialt- it [used to be] | 3797.7007 |
3684 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3797.2137 | [It used to-] | 3797.5379 |
3685 | | 3797.9557 | Right. | 3798.3242 |
3686 | DCB_int_01 | 3798.2737 | something, now it's just, it [is what it is?] | 3800.4364 |
3687 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3799.7225 | [It's- it is] whatever they wanna call it. | 3801.7618 |
3688 | | 3801.8678 | You know what I'm [saying?] | 3802.7966 |
3689 | DCB_int_01 | 3802.3373 | [Mm.] | 3802.9026 |
3690 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3803.1779 | Um, so I was never really heavy into it | 3805.6614 |
3692 | | 3806.2217 | um, but every once in a while like if I was eating some- off of someone else's plate and they had it on their wings and stuff then I would | 3811.8224 |
3694 | | 3812.0155 | but | 3812.2224 |
3696 | | 3812.4409 | yeah. | 3812.7489 |
3697 | DCB_int_01 | 3813.4555 | [But you only] eat it on wings? | 3814.7326 |
3698 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3813.5413 | [/Um-/] | 3813.8038 |
3699 | | 3815.4343 | I only eat it on wings. | 3816.6476 |
3700 | DCB_int_01 | 3816.6963 | /Mm-hm./ | 3817.0069 |
3702 | | 3817.2212 | [No most] people only eat it on wings I don't see a lot of people doing a whole lot with mumbo- | 3820.7043 |
3703 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3817.2616 | [/?/] | 3817.5043 |
3704 | DCB_int_01 | 3820.8634 | maybe french fries. | 3821.7619 |
3705 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3822.3222 | [Yeah.] | 3822.8449 |
3706 | DCB_int_01 | 3822.4030 | [I think that's] the craziest thing I've seen is the | 3823.9830 |
3707 | | 3824.1294 | french frie- I- I don't- you don't do in on like | 3825.9617 |
3709 | | 3827.1708 | you know vegetables [and] | 3828.8265 |
3710 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3828.5741 | [Yeah.] | 3829.0461 |
3711 | DCB_int_01 | 3829.1294 | all that you just- your f- | 3830.1844 |
3713 | | 3830.3308 | wings primary and then maybe- | 3832.6321 |
3714 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3832.1355 | [Maybe french fries.] | 3833.2612 |
3715 | DCB_int_01 | 3832.9331 | [maybe] french fries if you feeling [adventurous.] | 3835.1238 |
3716 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3834.9825 | [Right.] | 3835.3718 |
3717 | DCB_int_01 | 3835.5781 | That's- that's | 3836.0915 |
3719 | | 3836.2445 | about all you could do. | 3837.0591 |
3720 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_02 | 3837.1228 | Right. | 3837.3716 |