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1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.3518 | And what's your birthday Miss /RD-NAME-1/? | 2.0398 |
2 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 2.0910 | March twenty third, nineteen fifty. | 4.0914 |
3 | DCB_int_01 | 6.0592 | Perfect. | 6.6438 |
5 | | 7.8019 | Pisces. | 8.4268 |
6 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 9.2474 | Aries. | 9.7114 |
7 | DCB_int_01 | 9.7137 | Aries. [You-] | 10.3712 |
8 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 10.1194 | [Mm.] | 10.3386 |
9 | DCB_int_01 | 10.6556 | [/After-/ The day-] Mm. [You the day-] Uh-huh. | 12.9120 |
10 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 10.6603 | [On the cusp.] | 11.2817 |
12 | | 11.8167 | [Mm.] | 12.3763 |
13 | | 13.2424 | [<laugh>] | 13.7693 |
14 | DCB_int_01 | 13.4336 | [And] um, where were you born? | 15.3296 |
15 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 15.7417 | Winston Salem, North Carolina. | 17.5086 |
16 | DCB_int_01 | 19.1118 | When did you move to DC? | 20.1318 |
17 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 20.6050 | <ts> | 20.7425 |
19 | | 20.9350 | In nineteen fifty f- six- fifty five. | 24.9405 |
21 | | 25.4289 | Fifty five, yes, cause I was five. | 27.4946 |
22 | DCB_int_01 | 30.1711 | And what neighborhood | 31.1804 |
24 | | 31.3683 | do you call home? | 32.1963 |
26 | | 33.5272 | Like as your childhood home, as you were growing up. | 35.6722 |
27 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 36.5488 | Lincoln Park. | 37.5500 |
28 | DCB_int_01 | 37.5595 | Lincoln Park. [Where is Lincoln] Park? | 39.0563 |
29 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 38.3055 | [Mm-hm.] | 38.8882 |
30 | | 39.2474 | It's in um, Northeast, | 40.7302 |
32 | | 40.9867 | on the Northeast side of Lincoln Park. | 42.7213 |
34 | | 43.9465 | That's my- | 44.5340 |
36 | | 44.9817 | the longest time, but we moved around a lot, and we were there the longest. | 48.3389 |
37 | DCB_int_01 | 48.5534 | In the [Lincoln Park-] Okay. | 49.5548 |
38 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 48.8554 | [Mm-hm.] | 49.3474 |
39 | | 49.6201 | Mm-hm. | 50.0211 |
40 | DCB_int_01 | 50.1470 | And then um, | 51.6018 |
42 | | 52.4318 | <ts> | 52.5297 |
44 | | 52.5997 | you've been here since you moved here- Since you were five, you- | 54.7306 |
46 | | 54.9171 | you've always lived here since then? | 56.1703 |
47 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 56.1796 | Yes. | 56.6273 |
48 | DCB_int_01 | 56.6739 | Okay. | 57.0469 |
50 | | 57.2101 | And have you lived in any other place, um- | 60.0312 |
52 | | 60.6374 | What other neighbor- or what other neighborhoods have you lived in? | 62.9257 |
53 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 63.3780 | Um, | 63.8256 |
55 | | 64.2360 | you mean within DC? | 65.5090 |
56 | DCB_int_01 | 65.6302 | Yes, ma'am. | 66.0825 |
57 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 66.1105 | <ts> | 66.1757 |
59 | | 66.5907 | I've lived in every | 67.6714 |
61 | | 67.9045 | section of city, | 68.9630 |
63 | | 69.1076 | every- | 69.4480 |
65 | | 69.5412 | Northeast, Southeast, Southwest, Northwest, | 72.2830 |
67 | | 72.8659 | and um- | 73.6201 |
68 | DCB_int_01 | 73.6248 | That's gonna be great. I wanna hear s- I'm gonna ask you some questions about [that.] | 76.4691 |
69 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 76.2220 | [Okay.] | 76.7722 |
70 | | 76.8841 | Um- uh- after- Especially after my father passed in nineteen sixty, | 80.7159 |
72 | | 81.2521 | and we moved quite a bit. Um, | 83.1406 |
74 | | 84.3483 | then um, | 85.4149 |
76 | | 87.2801 | I lived in Northwest with my mom and it was- | 89.4530 |
78 | | 89.5882 | and my stepdad, and then after I graduated, | 91.8299 |
80 | | 92.9583 | then I moved to Maryland. | 94.0970 |
81 | DCB_int_01 | 94.2873 | What school did you go to? | 95.2572 |
82 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 95.6722 | I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High [School, in] uh, s- nineteen sixty eight. | 99.4421 |
83 | DCB_int_01 | 97.3403 | [Mm-hm.] | 97.9931 |
84 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 100.9960 | Then I did two years at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ University, | 103.5500 |
86 | | 104.9164 | and | 105.4946 |
88 | | 106.0961 | that's it. | 106.3852 |
89 | DCB_int_01 | 107.8027 | What'd you study while you were at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? | 108.9964 |
90 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 109.2098 | <ts> | 109.3450 |
92 | | 109.4895 | I was a Voice major. | 110.5900 |
93 | DCB_int_01 | 110.9304 | A Voice ma- | 111.5117 |
94 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 111.5692 | [Mm-hm. <laugh>] Yup. | 113.5882 |
95 | DCB_int_01 | 111.8723 | [Oh.] | 113.1313 |
96 | | 115.3030 | So you still sing? | 116.1190 |
97 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 116.7439 | I ha- I can't now. I've had surgery that | 118.9634 |
99 | | 119.1825 | t- messed up my voice, so I'm not able to sing now, but | 121.8532 |
101 | | 122.7672 | I did some singing back in my day. [<laugh> Yes, yes.] | 127.0850 |
102 | DCB_int_01 | 125.0287 | [Really? Okay.] | 126.7586 |
103 | | 127.1678 | So now I know you're retired, but what did you do | 129.3780 |
105 | | 129.9609 | before you were retired? | 131.1033 |
106 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 131.0706 | <ts> | 131.2012 |
107 | | 131.6022 | I was administrative assistant in um, DC public schools, | 134.9073 |
109 | | 136.6090 | so. | 137.0193 |
110 | DCB_int_01 | 141.5459 | And what about your parents? What- where was your father born? | 144.6139 |
111 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 144.6001 | <ts> | 144.7400 |
112 | | 145.0279 | He was born in Pensacola, Florida. | 146.9537 |
113 | DCB_int_01 | 147.0096 | Oh, I know [Pensacola.] | 148.7069 |
114 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 148.1987 | [Mm-hm.] | 148.8468 |
115 | | 149.0007 | Mm-hm. | 149.5136 |
116 | DCB_int_01 | 150.4509 | And what about [Mom?] | 151.3242 |
117 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 151.0792 | [And] Mom was in the- | 152.2076 |
118 | | 152.3895 | from Waycross, Georgia. | 153.7137 |
120 | | 154.5251 | <laugh> | 155.1499 |
121 | DCB_int_01 | 155.2945 | You are Southern- You know both of tho- Well [Pensacola is a little] far, but [Waycross is about] | 159.6460 |
122 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 157.5502 | [<laugh>] | 158.2496 |
124 | | 158.8231 | [Uh.] | 159.5878 |
125 | DCB_int_01 | 160.0728 | an hour from my house. | 161.4716 |
126 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 161.5696 | [Really?] | 162.3110 |
127 | DCB_int_01 | 161.5836 | [/And-/] | 161.7421 |
129 | | 161.9379 | [I'm- I'm] from Valdosta. | 163.1212 |
130 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 163.5781 | Okay. | 164.1750 |
131 | DCB_int_01 | 164.4734 | [Mm. So I know Waycross.] | 166.2826 |
132 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 164.4781 | [Oh, well that's good. <laugh>] | 166.6510 |
133 | DCB_int_01 | 166.4645 | [We go] that way when we're going up um- | 168.6700 |
134 | | 169.1352 | Actually when I'm driving here, [I go over] | 171.0376 |
135 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 170.3662 | [Mm-hm.] | 170.8278 |
136 | DCB_int_01 | 171.4106 | past Waycross to get up to ninety five. | 173.4064 |
137 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 173.5229 | [Okay.] | 174.1944 |
138 | DCB_int_01 | 173.9892 | [Mm-hm.] | 174.4928 |
139 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 174.4648 | Okay. | 175.0664 |
140 | DCB_int_01 | 175.0524 | And we used to [play them] a lot at ba- in football, and | 177.6977 |
141 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 175.3357 | [That's r-] | 175.7693 |
142 | DCB_int_01 | 177.8956 | [they're one of our] big rivals. [Um,] | 180.0778 |
143 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 177.9003 | [Mm-hm.] | 178.4785 |
145 | | 179.3364 | [Mm-hm.] | 179.7404 |
146 | | 180.1058 | Mm-hm. | 180.6141 |
147 | DCB_int_01 | 180.6141 | cause they were a pretty big | 181.5500 |
149 | | 181.7973 | football program. | 182.7625 |
150 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 182.9117 | Okay. | 183.3454 |
151 | DCB_int_01 | 183.3454 | What'd your dad do? | 184.0734 |
152 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 184.5297 | He was a preacher. | 185.3318 |
154 | | 185.5929 | [<laugh>] | 186.0638 |
155 | DCB_int_01 | 185.5975 | [Oh!] | 185.8975 |
156 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 186.6980 | Yup. | 187.1818 |
158 | | 187.4849 | His- his work though was he was a- uh, in the cleaning business. | 190.9587 |
160 | | 191.6908 | /Mm-hm./ | 192.1897 |
161 | DCB_int_01 | 192.7819 | And what about Mommy? | 193.8795 |
162 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 194.1377 | She was a house m- | 195.8536 |
164 | | 196.0821 | mother at- a stayed at home mother. | 197.9286 |
165 | DCB_int_01 | 202.3059 | So, | 202.6463 |
167 | | 203.2059 | let's talk about when you moved to DC. What prompted you guys to move here? | 207.0842 |
168 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 208.4691 | Well, I think it was just for | 210.4089 |
170 | | 210.7295 | um, | 211.1876 |
172 | | 212.3615 | to try to do better. | 213.3174 |
174 | | 213.5459 | It- | 213.7883 |
176 | | 213.8816 | have a better life, | 214.9354 |
178 | | 215.3970 | you know? | 215.7887 |
180 | | 216.2970 | Um, | 216.6141 |
182 | | 216.9346 | he w- Like I said, he was a | 217.9605 |
184 | | 218.1563 | minister that did a lot of traveling and preaching. | 220.3945 |
186 | | 220.7023 | Like Evangelistic | 221.6162 |
188 | | 221.8773 | minister. | 222.3529 |
189 | DCB_int_01 | 222.5907 | Gotcha. | 222.9160 |
190 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 222.9393 | And so he did a lot of preaching and so- | 225.1960 |
192 | | 226.1008 | I think my mom got tired of him being gone so much, so [we kind of- Yeah.] | 229.6804 |
193 | DCB_int_01 | 228.8239 | [She said, we're gonna] go too. | 229.9838 |
194 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 230.1097 | Yeah. | 230.4548 |
196 | | 231.1728 | And so we came here and um, | 233.3271 |
198 | | 233.7887 | lived with my aunt and uncle. | 235.2715 |
200 | | 235.9698 | Well he was a preacher too, | 237.1076 |
202 | | 237.2428 | <laugh> so | 238.3432 |
204 | | 238.8748 | we all lived in- in Northwest DC, up off of Georgia Avenue. | 242.7320 |
206 | | 243.4713 | And uh, | 244.0541 |
208 | | 244.5391 | was my sister, | 245.4437 |
210 | | 246.1011 | /RD-NAME-2/, my younger- | 247.1398 |
212 | | 247.2517 | my younger brother, | 248.3195 |
214 | | 248.7019 | /RD-NAME-2/, | 249.2941 |
216 | | 250.2733 | and my mother and father, | 251.8167 |
218 | | 251.9096 | so. | 252.2492 |
219 | DCB_int_01 | 252.5628 | And you all lived in one [house?] | 253.8019 |
220 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 253.5921 | [In one] house. | 254.2822 |
221 | | 254.4221 | Mm-hm. All- | 254.8091 |
222 | DCB_int_01 | 254.7858 | Did it feel cramped? Or did you feel like you had- | 257.0054 |
223 | | 257.1546 | You didn't even realize it? | 258.1944 |
224 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 258.5010 | I didn't realize it, no, cause | 260.0724 |
226 | | 260.7578 | uh, it was a good size house. It was on Crittenden Street in Northwest. | 264.2410 |
227 | DCB_int_01 | 264.1105 | Mm-hm. | 264.6514 |
228 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 264.7586 | And um, | 265.3357 |
230 | | 265.9045 | uh- | 266.1517 |
232 | | 267.4526 | I don't even remember what room I was in, but I do remember that | 270.2037 |
234 | | 270.6047 | there was a big | 271.2529 |
236 | | 271.5408 | living uh, room. | 272.6832 |
238 | | 273.3003 | It kind of had it like the french doors between that and the dining area, | 276.7633 |
240 | | 277.2377 | and so it was always | 278.5527 |
242 | | 278.6692 | open and | 279.3687 |
244 | | 279.9142 | airy and | 280.6044 |
246 | | 281.0567 | f- f- | 281.3131 |
248 | | 281.5043 | It was fun. | 282.0872 |
249 | DCB_int_01 | 283.1538 | Do you remember | 283.9791 |
251 | | 284.0724 | the neighborhood? Do you feel like you had- Like, | 286.1294 |
253 | | 286.3013 | you know, neighbors back then are not the kind- | 288.1245 |
255 | | 288.3716 | like | 288.5581 |
257 | | 288.6887 | [how we /talk/] about [neighbors today.] Do you remember your neighbors, the other people on your street? Maybe the other kids on your street? | 293.8074 |
258 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 288.7062 | [That's true.] | 289.2890 |
260 | | 289.5641 | [That is true.] | 290.3055 |
261 | | 294.8087 | I don't remember the children that much. | 296.9837 |
263 | | 297.0889 | Um, | 297.5132 |
265 | | 298.4505 | I just remember my brother and I and my um- | 301.3928 |
267 | | 302.3195 | my cous- my uh, nephew- | 304.0821 |
269 | | 304.1847 | my | 304.4645 |
271 | | 304.6044 | s- | 304.7302 |
273 | | 304.8328 | What is it? My ch- | 305.4856 |
275 | | 306.0265 | sister's children. | 307.3310 |
277 | | 307.5175 | That'd be my cousins. <laugh> | 308.8415 |
278 | DCB_int_01 | 308.9956 | [Your sister's] ch- | 309.7744 |
279 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 309.1962 | [My- huh?] | 309.6671 |
280 | DCB_int_01 | 309.9189 | That would [be your niece] and nephew. | 310.8768 |
281 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 310.0635 | [Yeah, w-] | 310.5670 |
283 | | 310.7909 | Nieces and m- Yeah. There you [go. I was] tryna find that word. | 312.9545 |
284 | DCB_int_01 | 311.8960 | [Mm-hm.] | 312.1991 |
285 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 313.5735 | Yeah, they would come over, and uh, we were all kind of close in age, so | 317.5649 |
287 | | 317.8913 | I remember playing with them. I don't remember | 319.6574 |
289 | | 319.8719 | kids in the neighborhood. | 320.7812 |
291 | | 321.3594 | But I do remember that w- the- the houses were um, | 323.8913 |
293 | | 324.2783 | like, | 324.4602 |
295 | | 324.5581 | connected. You could | 325.4394 |
297 | | 325.6154 | stand on your porch and see down to other porches. | 328.3665 |
299 | | 328.5531 | That kind of neighborhood, | 329.5323 |
301 | | 329.9193 | houses. | 330.4882 |
303 | | 330.9684 | And uh, | 331.6201 |
305 | | 333.2987 | I don't remember much else about that. | 334.9261 |
306 | DCB_int_01 | 335.1359 | Did you- | 335.4530 |
308 | | 335.6861 | Do you- | 336.1198 |
310 | | 336.2224 | Have you ever- Have you s- passed by there? Is that house still there? Have they [torn it] [down?] | 340.0961 |
311 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 339.1635 | [Mm-hm.] | 339.5972 |
313 | | 339.8210 | [It's still] there. | 340.4971 |
314 | DCB_int_01 | 340.7069 | It's still [there. Do people] still live in it or is it condemned now? Or /it's [livable]/- | 344.3662 |
315 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 341.1079 | [Mm.] | 341.6488 |
317 | | 343.8859 | [No, it's-] it's a very vibrant neighborhood. It's up in the Petworth neighborhood. | 347.8120 |
318 | DCB_int_01 | 347.9846 | Mm-hm. | 348.3446 |
319 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 348.4322 | And uh, | 349.0990 |
321 | | 350.0910 | it was considered | 350.9644 |
323 | | 351.0889 | k- s- then was kind of like a | 352.3479 |
325 | | 352.4878 | good area. | 353.1639 |
327 | | 353.3084 | <laugh> You [know, cause it's kind of] going /toward up/ in Northwest. | 356.0398 |
328 | DCB_int_01 | 353.8680 | [Right, and now-] | 354.5600 |
329 | | 356.3242 | [Mm-hm.] | 356.7255 |
330 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 356.5620 | [So] that was considered a decent area | 358.7536 |
331 | | 358.8515 | to live [in.] | 359.3504 |
332 | DCB_int_01 | 359.1592 | [And] now /if you have/ that area, that's- | 360.8845 |
333 | | 361.0839 | uh- | 361.4056 |
335 | | 361.5828 | right up- | 361.8393 |
337 | | 362.1004 | So Columbia Heights, | 363.3687 |
339 | | 363.5785 | [um, Brightwood], | 364.6743 |
340 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 363.5832 | [Mm-hm, a little further] up. [Yup.] | 365.3784 |
341 | DCB_int_01 | 364.9587 | [Petworth-] | 365.4810 |
342 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 365.5463 | Mm-hm. | 366.1058 |
343 | DCB_int_01 | 366.1571 | Um, [so they] now | 367.7786 |
344 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 366.7388 | [Mm-hm.] | 367.1445 |
345 | DCB_int_01 | 368.4128 | um- | 368.7159 |
347 | | 369.5039 | Gentrification has reached | 370.8701 |
349 | | 370.9774 | that area. | 371.6115 |
350 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 371.6990 | [Okay.] | 372.2597 |
351 | DCB_int_01 | 371.9939 | [Like] Georgia Avenue, you know, you can drive up Georgia and you see | 375.0283 |
352 | | 375.2101 | big Safeway with the [condos and the-] | 377.9146 |
353 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 376.4225 | [Oh yes. Oh-] | 377.7607 |
354 | DCB_int_01 | 378.1338 | [Especially] where the Metro [is.] | 379.5500 |
355 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 378.1664 | [I have-] | 378.4882 |
357 | | 379.3403 | [Mm-hm.] | 379.8532 |
358 | | 380.0817 | I haven't uh- Last time I went through there, | 382.1800 |
360 | | 382.4878 | the Metro was there. | 383.4670 |
362 | | 384.2597 | And uh, it's- it's really changed <laugh> from when I lived in that area. | 387.6671 |
363 | DCB_int_01 | 388.0122 | So where did you go next? | 389.7234 |
364 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 389.7468 | Okay, next we went to um, | 391.4207 |
366 | | 392.0444 | Perry Place | 393.0003 |
368 | | 393.1868 | off of Fourteenth Street, | 394.5857 |
370 | | 395.2292 | which was like, | 396.1664 |
372 | | 397.3916 | in that- You know, that- Going up that way it was like, | 399.5365 |
374 | | 399.7930 | alphabets, that's how I [remember] the area. So, | 401.8480 |
375 | DCB_int_01 | 400.7396 | [Mm-hm.] | 401.0380 |
376 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 402.3343 | Perry Place was in the alphabet s- s- alphabet before Crittenden, | 405.6951 |
378 | | 405.8163 | so we're d- we're down a little further into- toward town. | 408.4928 |
380 | | 409.2890 | And um, | 409.9139 |
382 | | 411.0190 | we lived in the house of this old preacher. | 413.4530 |
384 | | 413.9706 | He was old, | 414.7248 |
386 | | 415.2844 | creepy kind of person (laughing). | 416.5573 |
388 | | 417.0703 | And he- (laughing) | 417.7277 |
390 | | 418.1147 | His name was Reverend Flood. I'll never forget it. | 420.3891 |
392 | | 420.7248 | And uh, we- we lived there | 422.4221 |
394 | | 423.5272 | upstairs. | 424.8095 |
396 | | 425.1033 | Um, | 425.6302 |
398 | | 425.7514 | it was enough room so my mother, my father, my | 428.0025 |
400 | | 428.0966 | sister and my s- younger brother. | 429.7464 |
402 | | 430.3899 | Well that's where | 431.4903 |
404 | | 431.8214 | our younger brother passed away. He was five | 434.1190 |
406 | | 434.2169 | at the time. | 434.9071 |
408 | | 436.5950 | Which I still don't, to this day- don't know what he died of. | 439.4895 |
410 | | 439.6947 | He just died as far as I always knew. He just died. | 442.6603 |
411 | DCB_int_01 | 442.7256 | Hm. | 443.0380 |
412 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 443.6349 | And | 444.1431 |
414 | | 444.3669 | took a toll on my dad. He was not | 446.1190 |
416 | | 446.7019 | /good after that/. | 447.3454 |
417 | DCB_int_01 | 448.4645 | And so did- | 449.0800 |
419 | | 449.2665 | did you guys- | 449.8447 |
421 | | 449.9426 | Did your parents have any more kids? Or after- after your brother died, it was just you and your sister at that point. | 454.1940 |
422 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 454.1987 | Right. Everybody else was grown. There were other children and ther- there was seven of us all total. | 458.6879 |
423 | DCB_int_01 | 459.0749 | [Oh, okay.] | 459.8769 |
424 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 459.1635 | [But we were the youngest], the- | 460.5064 |
425 | | 460.6696 | the three [of us were the youngest.] | 462.2550 |
426 | DCB_int_01 | 460.9914 | [Gotcha, okay. So those were the-] | 462.1711 |
427 | | 462.6514 | the three of you [guys grew up together and] then there was a older [bunch.] | 465.2101 |
428 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 463.3730 | [Mm-hm.] | 464.0444 |
430 | | 465.0516 | [Right.] [Exactly.] Mm-hm. | 467.0147 |
431 | DCB_int_01 | 465.7137 | [Gotcha. Okay.] | 466.3945 |
432 | | 467.0520 | Oh, so that's why your sister's kids who were around your [age, that they were] older. I [see what you're saying.] | 470.9071 |
433 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 469.0279 | [Mm-hm.] | 469.7553 |
435 | | 470.4501 | [Right.] | 470.8371 |
436 | | 471.1449 | [Mm-hm.] | 471.7930 |
437 | DCB_int_01 | 471.1589 | [Okay.] | 471.5599 |
438 | | 471.8443 | And so, | 472.1660 |
440 | | 472.2686 | then that's when you lived over in- and you had the preacher. | 474.6327 |
441 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 475.0477 | [Mm-hm.] | 475.5500 |
442 | DCB_int_01 | 475.1864 | [Now], | 475.5641 |
443 | | 475.7180 | at that point, were you really big into- was your family big into church still? Cause your dad was still a preacher, [so] | 480.5208 |
444 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 480.3063 | [Mm-hm.] | 480.7586 |
445 | DCB_int_01 | 480.7679 | is that how he met this man? | 482.2589 |
446 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 482.5807 | I- I'm not sure how, but [I'm- I'm] assuming so. | 485.4204 |
447 | DCB_int_01 | 483.9982 | [Okay.] | 484.3992 |
448 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 485.5556 | [Mm-hm.] | 486.0592 |
449 | DCB_int_01 | 485.5556 | [Mm-hm.] | 486.0592 |
450 | | 486.1653 | Now, did you- where did your dad | 487.3403 |
452 | | 487.5408 | pastor? | 487.9931 |
454 | | 488.1237 | Did he [pastor or he was a minister?] | 489.6018 |
455 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 488.3801 | [Did he- No, he never pa-] Yeah, just a minister, and he would go to different- different churches, | 492.3296 |
456 | | 493.0477 | um, and p- speak and preach and | 495.5086 |
458 | | 495.8396 | t- teach. I mean, he- he was- | 497.3504 |
460 | | 497.9473 | My dad only went to third grade, | 499.7347 |
462 | | 500.6413 | and- | 501.2101 |
464 | | 501.3454 | but he was | 502.1241 |
466 | | 502.2886 | so smart, so intelligent. | 504.3669 |
468 | | 504.7668 | I mean, he had- | 505.5222 |
470 | | 505.6900 | Universities wanted him to come and | 507.5692 |
472 | | 507.7930 | teach classes. | 508.6743 |
474 | | 509.0846 | Cause he never- He was just anointed. | 510.7015 |
476 | | 510.8647 | He was anointed | 511.8620 |
478 | | 512.1610 | preacher, | 512.5340 |
480 | | 512.8977 | and he could | 513.3594 |
482 | | 513.7604 | give that Word like nobody. | 515.1732 |
484 | | 515.3597 | [<laugh>] | 516.1058 |
485 | DCB_int_01 | 515.7701 | [Do you remember] a specific sermon | 518.0304 |
486 | | 518.1796 | or a specific talk that you saw that just really touched you from him? Like, | 521.9193 |
488 | | 522.2597 | I know probably a lot. You saw him [speak a lot, but is there that one time you] remember like, | 525.7930 |
489 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 523.5688 | [Mm, mm-hm.] | 525.2008 |
490 | DCB_int_01 | 525.9655 | man, that's my daddy. | 527.1218 |
491 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 530.5433 | <ts> | 530.6413 |
493 | | 530.7392 | I don't think I remember | 532.3526 |
495 | | 532.8561 | what it was he talked about, | 534.2317 |
497 | | 534.7773 | I just r- | 535.2855 |
499 | | 535.4243 | I can see him right now. I remember one time that | 538.2966 |
501 | | 538.8981 | the Spirit hit him, and he just walked | 540.9545 |
503 | | 541.0885 | kind of walked the pews, as they used to say. | 543.3687 |
504 | DCB_int_01 | 543.5459 | Mm-hm. | 543.9282 |
505 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 543.9189 | You know, I remember- I can see him coming down out of the pulpit, | 547.0978 |
506 | | 547.3217 | and going- | 548.1703 |
508 | | 548.7765 | I mean he could pre- | 549.6898 |
510 | | 549.8303 | Oh he could just like, fire and just | 551.9489 |
512 | | 552.5954 | work everybody up. You know, he was just that kind of peo- I can see that. | 555.8396 |
514 | | 556.4178 | I c- I don't remember exactly what it was he talked about, but I remember- I can see him | 560.5993 |
516 | | 561.0096 | in the- | 561.3174 |
517 | DCB_int_01 | 561.5738 | Coming out the [pulpit] | 562.7769 |
518 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 562.1474 | [Mm-hm.] | 562.6463 |
519 | | 562.7909 | Mm-hm. | 563.2851 |
520 | DCB_int_01 | 563.4763 | and really connecting with [the congregation.] | 565.5500 |
521 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 564.6607 | [Mm-hm.] | 565.1643 |
523 | | 565.4056 | That's right. | 565.9651 |
524 | DCB_int_01 | 566.2822 | Do you feel like you see that in preachers today? Or do you kind of miss that old timey- | 571.1410 |
525 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 571.9698 | [I have seen it.] | 572.8977 |
526 | DCB_int_01 | 571.9745 | [Has it changed?] | 573.0003 |
527 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 573.2941 | I have seen it. Um, | 574.6417 |
529 | | 576.0732 | I've seen it in my son on occasion. | 577.9418 |
530 | DCB_int_01 | 579.7324 | When he's- | 580.2873 |
531 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 580.5251 | When he was preaching. He can- | 581.9286 |
533 | | 583.7600 | <sigh> | 584.1750 |
535 | | 584.7625 | It's- it- it's a- | 585.5365 |
537 | | 585.7744 | Sometime it give me the | 586.6929 |
539 | | 586.8935 | quivers how he- | 588.0825 |
541 | | 588.4229 | I can look at him and see my dad. | 590.3195 |
542 | DCB_int_01 | 591.1262 | Mm. | 591.4293 |
543 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 591.5319 | And um, | 591.9609 |
545 | | 592.6323 | <ts> | 592.7023 |
547 | | 593.1825 | that's a awesome thing. | 594.2270 |
549 | | 594.9778 | Mm. | 595.0664 |
550 | DCB_int_01 | 596.1377 | And | 596.9583 |
552 | | 597.2381 | do you think- | 598.1474 |
554 | | 598.3759 | And maybe that was God's gift to you, | 600.6301 |
556 | | 600.8472 | you know, is to give him that spirit. Because [I believe] a lot of young people have old spirits. Like I have a [old spirit.] | 606.6392 |
557 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 603.3640 | [Mm.] | 603.7277 |
559 | | 606.1151 | [Mm-hm.] | 606.7260 |
560 | | 606.8134 | [Mm-hm.] | 607.2517 |
561 | DCB_int_01 | 606.8181 | [I feel like] I'm about seventy three. | 608.4361 |
562 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 608.4827 | <laugh> | 609.4013 |
563 | DCB_int_01 | 609.4573 | Um, | 609.8396 |
565 | | 611.0846 | maybe seventy six. | 612.2224 |
566 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 612.3156 | Okay- <laugh> | 612.9580 |
567 | DCB_int_01 | 612.9300 | Um, | 613.2144 |
568 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 613.6201 | [Okay.] | 614.1050 |
569 | DCB_int_01 | 613.8626 | [but-] but I think young people | 615.7137 |
570 | | 616.1101 | sometimes can inhabit that | 617.9569 |
572 | | 618.4648 | like, | 618.6642 |
573 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 618.7248 | Mm-hm. | 619.0512 |
574 | DCB_int_01 | 619.0605 | maybe as their grandfather [or their] [grandmother] | 621.6345 |
575 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 620.4314 | [Mm-hm.] | 620.9117 |
577 | | 621.1962 | [Mm-hm.] | 621.6251 |
578 | | 621.8629 | [I agree.] | 622.4411 |
579 | DCB_int_01 | 621.8629 | [And they-] | 622.1987 |
580 | | 622.7769 | Do s- Does he have a lot of the same [mannerisms?] | 624.7819 |
581 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 624.2690 | [Oh], Lord, yes. | 625.6108 |
582 | DCB_int_01 | 625.6108 | [Mm-hm.] | 626.0771 |
583 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 625.7413 | [He's] got that | 626.5060 |
584 | | 626.8558 | dry sense of humor | 627.9422 |
586 | | 628.3339 | that, | 628.5064 |
588 | | 628.6277 | you know, he can make you laugh, and he's looking at you, and you falling out at something he said. | 633.1444 |
590 | | 633.6438 | And my dad could do that from- | 635.0287 |
592 | | 635.1266 | even did it at his sermons sometime. | 636.7913 |
594 | | 637.0384 | I do remember that. | 638.0164 |
596 | | 638.1936 | Yeah he could make- he- he- | 639.5738 |
598 | | 639.8490 | He'd put humor in his messages, and that's the same thing /RD-NAME-2/ does. It's humor in his messages. | 644.9863 |
600 | | 645.3967 | But you get it. | 646.2033 |
602 | | 646.5251 | It's real. | 647.2382 |
604 | | 647.4437 | I mean | 647.8027 |
606 | | 648.6980 | you know God is so- [working with him.] | 650.5433 |
607 | DCB_int_01 | 649.8066 | [/In session/] him, [yeah.] | 651.1542 |
608 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 650.8231 | [Mm-hm.] | 651.3547 |
609 | DCB_int_01 | 651.5039 | So you said your dad passed. | 653.0958 |
610 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 653.0986 | Yeah he passed in nineteen sixty. | 654.9311 |
612 | | 655.6294 | He uh- | 656.2227 |
614 | | 656.5154 | he had a heart attack. | 657.5878 |
616 | | 658.0122 | Um, | 658.3759 |
618 | | 659.4110 | when we lived in Lincoln Park, | 660.9486 |
620 | | 661.2937 | it was a- | 661.6574 |
622 | | 661.8439 | one of those big old brownstone type houses | 664.3732 |
624 | | 665.0360 | and | 665.4831 |
626 | | 665.5696 | three floors. | 666.3955 |
628 | | 667.1258 | And at one point, | 668.0817 |
630 | | 668.4081 | our whole family lived in that house. | 670.3603 |
632 | | 670.9681 | All of my brothers, | 672.1307 |
634 | | 673.0279 | all- It was two brothers, | 674.2776 |
636 | | 674.9723 | three sisters, | 675.9445 |
638 | | 676.7676 | two sisters with all | 677.7514 |
640 | | 677.8866 | three- | 678.2084 |
642 | | 678.6001 | Each one had three kids, <laugh> | 679.9045 |
644 | | 680.0631 | they were there. | 680.6086 |
646 | | 681.4106 | Um, | 681.7977 |
648 | | 682.4924 | uh, my uncle and his wife, | 683.9240 |
650 | | 684.0498 | my mother, my father and that- | 685.3788 |
652 | | 685.6061 | We all lived in that uh- We loved- | 687.6951 |
654 | | 687.9329 | Oh we had so much | 688.7536 |
656 | | 688.8468 | great times in that house. | 690.1151 |
658 | | 690.8006 | Just, | 691.1270 |
660 | | 691.4476 | you know, just | 692.3615 |
662 | | 692.5667 | being together. | 693.3733 |
664 | | 693.4853 | Cooking that- He c- He- | 694.3153 |
666 | | 694.6510 | He was a wonderful cook. He- | 696.2084 |
668 | | 696.7726 | Oh he could go in the refrigerator and j- just look and | 699.2381 |
670 | | 699.3267 | pull stuff out and <exhales> be so good. | 701.4333 |
672 | | 702.1991 | But he'd | 702.4870 |
674 | | 702.6176 | tear that kitchen up when w- when he- | 704.1610 |
676 | | 704.2869 | when he- | 704.7019 |
678 | | 704.8651 | w- | 705.0703 |
680 | | 705.3687 | When we finished eating, we knew | 706.7862 |
682 | | 706.9401 | who was in the kitchen | 707.7607 |
684 | | 707.9193 | cause /it w-/ | 708.3991 |
686 | | 708.7295 | flour on the floor, this and that. He s- said, okay y'all get in here, clean up this kitchen. | 713.1965 |
688 | | 713.6582 | He did- He had done all the damage, but we had to do the w- work [cleaning it up.] <laugh> | 717.8210 |
689 | DCB_int_01 | 716.6366 | [/unintelligible/ Mm-hm.] | 717.4992 |
690 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 718.6044 | But uh, | 719.0660 |
692 | | 719.2665 | we- we- we had | 720.4136 |
694 | | 720.5342 | parties in the basement. | 721.7367 |
696 | | 721.8626 | You know, and he- he loved to dance, and | 724.0028 |
698 | | 724.4924 | he was just- | 725.1825 |
700 | | 725.4530 | Oh. | 725.8960 |
701 | DCB_int_01 | 725.6768 | /Inaudible/ | 726.3145 |
702 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 727.8672 | When he passed, | 728.9956 |
704 | | 729.5645 | something went out of me. | 730.6510 |
706 | | 731.6209 | I love- I just- | 732.7267 |
708 | | 734.1810 | He was up here. | 734.8977 |
710 | | 735.9655 | And so | 736.4924 |
712 | | 737.5136 | it was hard, | 738.2690 |
714 | | 738.3809 | but um, | 738.9580 |
716 | | 740.1843 | those are- Some of the best memories were in that house. | 742.9706 |
718 | | 743.7934 | Mm. | 744.1757 |
719 | DCB_int_01 | 744.9580 | And so what happened after you guys moved from- | 747.2428 |
721 | | 747.8676 | So you moved | 748.5904 |
723 | | 748.8561 | out soon after he [passed.] | 750.3809 |
724 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 750.1291 | [S- Yes], soon after he passed, and um, | 751.9698 |
725 | | 752.7205 | my- one of my older brothers helped | 754.9587 |
727 | | 755.1079 | my mother, you know. He s- | 755.9240 |
729 | | 756.0359 | stepped in and s- | 756.9591 |
731 | | 757.4709 | So we moved to | 758.6133 |
733 | | 760.1474 | G Street in Southeast, which is over off of um, | 763.2016 |
735 | | 763.5595 | Minnesota Avenue. | 764.5480 |
737 | | 765.5972 | Over near that uh, Fort Dupont | 767.2711 |
739 | | 767.3784 | [Park.] | 768.0732 |
740 | DCB_int_01 | 767.9333 | [Mm. Mm.] | 768.7306 |
741 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 768.2504 | [Mm, over in that] area. | 769.3275 |
742 | | 770.1284 | And um, | 770.7998 |
744 | | 772.6090 | that was a fun house. It was big house and | 775.2923 |
746 | | 776.8604 | a brother- One of my brothers and | 778.6929 |
748 | | 779.1919 | my older- | 779.5803 |
750 | | 779.9939 | two of my older sisters, my mother, | 781.9489 |
752 | | 782.2169 | and me. | 782.5433 |
754 | | 782.8558 | Yeah. | 783.0889 |
756 | | 784.1194 | And we had fun in that house. Um, | 785.7234 |
758 | | 786.9778 | why we moved, I don't know. I was a- I was- | 789.1309 |
760 | | 789.3640 | When my father died I was ten, so when we left that house, I was | 792.9541 |
762 | | 793.0466 | twelve. | 793.6248 |
764 | | 795.1495 | So I- You know, I didn't know all the goings on and stuff. I was still too young to | 799.2480 |
766 | | 799.7553 | be- | 799.8999 |
768 | | 800.0118 | but I | 800.2636 |
770 | | 800.3848 | just know that | 801.2825 |
772 | | 801.6811 | we moved, and when we were there, I went to um, | 804.0872 |
774 | | 805.4103 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 805.7413 |
776 | | 806.0025 | Well when I was at- when we were at | 807.3407 |
778 | | 807.5226 | Lincoln Park, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School. | 810.2037 |
780 | | 810.7493 | And uh- | 811.4780 |
782 | | 811.8905 | um, | 812.2385 |
784 | | 812.4175 | that's- | 812.6553 |
786 | | 812.8791 | that's the biggest | 813.7044 |
788 | | 813.9469 | chunk of school that I can remember. I went there from third grade to sixth grade. | 817.6060 |
789 | DCB_int_01 | 817.8532 | Mm. | 818.1284 |
790 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 818.6506 | And then um, | 819.5832 |
792 | | 820.2826 | on G Street I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and that's where I | 822.5726 |
794 | | 822.7528 | was promoted from, then | 823.8968 |
796 | | 823.9978 | I went to junior high school. | 825.3574 |
798 | | 826.0075 | So | 826.4785 |
800 | | 826.5810 | by that time, | 827.5789 |
802 | | 827.8866 | we moved to | 829.0151 |
804 | | 829.9232 | um- | 830.3568 |
806 | | 831.1402 | where was it? | 831.6727 |
808 | | 832.6836 | N Street, Southwest. | 834.3250 |
810 | | 836.4687 | I don't remember what that was near. That was- | 838.5484 |
812 | | 839.4903 | I don't have a whole lot of memories o- of that house except it was a- | 842.2636 |
814 | | 842.4175 | a spooky house. We all | 843.5505 |
816 | | 843.6997 | thought it was haunted. <laugh> | 844.9867 |
817 | DCB_int_01 | 845.4623 | Oh. | 845.7287 |
819 | | 845.9315 | Huh. | 846.1600 |
820 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 846.2270 | Yeah, cause it was- | 847.0011 |
822 | | 847.1585 | it was kind of dark. It was on the ground floor. | 849.6588 |
824 | | 850.4178 | We did have upstairs bedrooms, yeah. | 852.1571 |
826 | | 852.7679 | And but we could never | 853.8672 |
828 | | 854.6226 | lock | 854.8511 |
830 | | 855.0190 | the front door. | 855.7883 |
832 | | 856.9681 | We don't know why. We- | 858.2923 |
834 | | 858.5954 | we just never could, | 859.5500 |
836 | | 859.7786 | and it sold. | 860.4221 |
838 | | 860.9863 | The day that we moved cause we didn't- we weren't there long, | 863.8587 |
840 | | 864.7866 | and so the day we moved, we could lock the door. | 866.7858 |
841 | DCB_int_01 | 868.1008 | [Hm.] | 868.4551 |
842 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 868.1054 | [And so-] <laugh> And we was- | 869.5789 |
843 | | 869.9939 | you know, the- just weird little things were happening there, lights would come on and off and | 873.8909 |
845 | | 874.5297 | stran- You know, so we said, well- | 876.4742 |
847 | | 876.7446 | Well I guess | 877.0943 |
849 | | 877.2191 | they said, we gotta get out of here. We gonna go [somewhere else.] <laugh> Yeah. | 880.6323 |
850 | DCB_int_01 | 879.3594 | [/You can/ go somewhere else.] | 880.3059 |
851 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 881.7048 | And so I was- I was supposed to go to /RD-SCHOOL-1/- I did go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ uh, Junior High School for like, | 887.3318 |
853 | | 888.0405 | a month. | 888.6094 |
855 | | 889.5688 | And then um, | 890.5760 |
857 | | 891.7091 | I was um- | 892.5904 |
859 | | 892.8468 | When we moved to- from S- | 894.3110 |
861 | | 894.4928 | Southwest, we moved to | 895.8439 |
863 | | 896.5807 | Potomac Avenue, Southeast. | 898.2173 |
864 | DCB_int_01 | 898.5437 | Mm-hm. | 898.9121 |
865 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 899.6395 | Um, | 899.9566 |
867 | | 900.5022 | over by DC General. | 901.8569 |
869 | | 903.2987 | And | 903.9236 |
871 | | 904.2733 | we were at the end of that street, | 905.5468 |
873 | | 905.8913 | and um, | 906.3296 |
875 | | 906.9020 | the DC morgue was at the- | 908.2776 |
877 | | 908.4268 | that- | 908.7345 |
878 | DCB_int_01 | 909.2474 | Oh. | 909.5319 |
879 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 909.5785 | at [the end of the] street. | 910.6417 |
880 | DCB_int_01 | 909.6904 | [Okay.] | 910.1241 |
881 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 911.0893 | Potomac Avenue, I think it was Eighteenth that went that /fars/. | 913.6947 |
883 | | 914.3708 | And there was a cemetery behind our house (laughing). It was- | 917.3970 |
885 | | 917.9473 | But it was a beautiful row house, | 919.6434 |
887 | | 919.7507 | and uh, | 920.3149 |
889 | | 920.7718 | a nice- | 921.3415 |
891 | | 921.4386 | in the inside was nice. We had fun times there. It was my m- | 924.2550 |
893 | | 924.8239 | my mother, my sister /RD-NAME-2/, and then me | 926.8558 |
895 | | 927.0609 | and her- | 927.7082 |
897 | | 928.3292 | uh- | 928.6137 |
899 | | 929.1359 | older brother's wife /RD-NAME-2/. | 930.8586 |
901 | | 931.5082 | So it was just us. | 932.7299 |
903 | | 933.4153 | And at that house, I went to um- | 935.5742 |
905 | | 936.5721 | ended up going to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Junior High School. | 938.7532 |
907 | | 940.1381 | I loved that school. I- It was a good school. | 942.7446 |
908 | DCB_int_01 | 942.7481 | Why'd you love that school? | 943.8766 |
909 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 945.2754 | I liked the building. It w- it- it- | 947.1313 |
911 | | 947.3970 | it- | 947.5929 |
913 | | 948.0265 | it was- | 948.5441 |
915 | | 948.8612 | the- | 949.1445 |
917 | | 949.9045 | It was something about being inside that school building. It was just- | 952.8888 |
919 | | 954.1105 | It was just a | 954.6560 |
921 | | 954.9078 | good place to be. It was a good feeling when I was in there. | 957.4531 |
923 | | 957.9003 | And I did well in all- all of my classes. | 960.2877 |
925 | | 960.3763 | I did well. | 961.0664 |
927 | | 961.6434 | I liked my teachers. | 962.8138 |
929 | | 963.5878 | And I met | 963.9982 |
931 | | 964.1287 | um, | 964.6790 |
933 | | 965.7934 | a lifelong friend. We still friends, | 967.9041 |
935 | | 968.0025 | and I was there at the seventh grade. | 969.9003 |
937 | | 970.0541 | <laugh> | 970.3386 |
939 | | 970.8841 | And she and I w- She was- She came- When I was in the ninth, she came /near/ in the seventh. | 975.2148 |
941 | | 975.9376 | And | 976.3665 |
943 | | 976.5810 | um, | 977.0054 |
945 | | 977.7095 | we became f- We still friends. | 979.1969 |
946 | DCB_int_01 | 979.5362 | What's her name? | 979.9885 |
947 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 980.2169 | Her name's /RD-NAME-3/. | 981.2288 |
948 | DCB_int_01 | 981.5086 | [/RD-NAME-2/-] | 981.9142 |
949 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 981.7044 | [/RD-NAME-3/.] | 982.1847 |
950 | | 982.9681 | She's a minister now, and uh, | 984.6747 |
952 | | 985.8812 | we- our b- birthdays are two days apart. And we just like kindred spirits | 989.4716 |
954 | | 989.6349 | type thing. | 990.2410 |
956 | | 990.5861 | But uh- | 990.9918 |
957 | DCB_int_01 | 991.1398 | And do you get together often? | 992.3626 |
958 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 992.6832 | Not often, but when we do, it's- it's real. | 995.2105 |
960 | | 995.6628 | [You know?] | 996.0918 |
961 | DCB_int_01 | 995.6675 | [You can always] [share a lot] of [memories and-] | 997.5500 |
962 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 996.1991 | [I can't-] | 996.5768 |
964 | | 996.9999 | [Oh yeah.] | 997.8113 |
965 | | 998.0071 | Yes indeed. | 998.8231 |
967 | | 999.3267 | Cause back then we- we did get together | 1001.3784 |
969 | | 1001.8587 | when um- | 1002.2970 |
971 | | 1004.1004 | Let me back track a little bit. | 1005.4153 |
972 | DCB_int_01 | 1005.8723 | /Inaudible/ | 1006.3712 |
973 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1006.6463 | Oh [whoops. Sorry, okay.] | 1007.9426 |
974 | DCB_int_01 | 1006.8468 | [/This./ No you fine.] I'm'a move it to this side. | 1009.1689 |
975 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1009.2564 | Okay. | 1009.7040 |
976 | DCB_int_01 | 1010.3335 | I think that'll help. | 1011.0842 |
978 | | 1011.2987 | That way you can- There you go. | 1012.4411 |
979 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1012.4598 | Okay. | 1012.9867 |
981 | | 1014.6933 | So let's see. I'm gonna go back to when we were on Potomac Avenue. | 1018.0401 |
982 | DCB_int_01 | 1018.0784 | Mkay. | 1018.4691 |
983 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1018.7582 | Um, | 1019.1313 |
985 | | 1021.7833 | I went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Junior High- Yes, I used to walk- | 1024.2640 |
987 | | 1025.0567 | walk up uh, | 1025.9473 |
989 | | 1026.7108 | Pennsylvania Avenue. I | 1028.0444 |
991 | | 1028.1657 | remember that street, | 1028.9910 |
993 | | 1029.6811 | walking into /RD-SCHOOL-1/. | 1030.5531 |
995 | | 1031.6488 | We used to step out of- | 1032.9824 |
997 | | 1033.3636 | at lunch time, and go over to Eastern Market and | 1035.5508 |
999 | | 1035.7604 | <laugh> | 1035.9609 |
1001 | | 1036.1474 | get (laughing) | 1036.4831 |
1003 | | 1037.0100 | us potato chips out of this big barrel. <laugh> | 1039.8952 |
1005 | | 1040.2123 | That was fun. | 1040.9677 |
1007 | | 1041.4946 | Um, | 1042.0868 |
1009 | | 1044.0918 | uh yeah. So I met- When I met | 1045.8019 |
1011 | | 1045.8905 | my friend /RD-NAME-3/, | 1047.0842 |
1013 | | 1049.0846 | um, we w- | 1049.8167 |
1015 | | 1049.9100 | we had b- | 1050.4835 |
1017 | | 1050.5721 | I had- | 1050.8614 |
1019 | | 1050.9720 | My mother and I had joined this church. Uh, Shiloh Baptist Church? | 1054.1413 |
1020 | DCB_int_01 | 1054.0401 | Mm, [mm-hm.] | 1054.9214 |
1021 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1054.4738 | [Mm-hm.] | 1054.9168 |
1022 | | 1055.6022 | So | 1056.1198 |
1024 | | 1056.5395 | this was the uh- this was- I s- think I skipped a point, | 1059.3780 |
1026 | | 1059.7790 | but anyway, I'll go back. But- | 1061.1779 |
1028 | | 1061.3131 | but | 1061.5229 |
1030 | | 1061.6302 | we had met | 1062.2177 |
1032 | | 1062.3902 | and uh- at Shiloh Baptist Church and | 1064.3522 |
1034 | | 1065.0003 | while I wa- while we were there, | 1066.5484 |
1036 | | 1067.1313 | we'd all discovered that we sang- | 1068.6922 |
1038 | | 1068.8227 | all of us sang. We were in the youth choir and everything. | 1071.2708 |
1040 | | 1071.9003 | And so /RD-NAME-3/ and her sister | 1074.0359 |
1042 | | 1075.0244 | and | 1075.4720 |
1044 | | 1075.7087 | two- | 1076.1284 |
1046 | | 1076.3848 | uh, two other sets of sisters | 1078.3153 |
1048 | | 1078.5810 | and I. We got together and formed a group called the Uniques. | 1081.5500 |
1050 | | 1082.3662 | And we sang- | 1083.4153 |
1052 | | 1084.2593 | we sang. <laugh> | 1085.3131 |
1054 | | 1085.6488 | We were really good. | 1086.7539 |
1056 | | 1086.9626 | We were really good. | 1087.9838 |
1058 | | 1088.1610 | I mean we | 1088.7112 |
1060 | | 1088.8231 | traveled around and | 1090.0635 |
1062 | | 1090.7676 | went f- | 1090.9168 |
1064 | | 1091.0613 | to different churches and | 1092.4866 |
1066 | | 1093.1118 | were on the radio and- | 1094.4221 |
1068 | | 1095.7417 | But, um, we were together the /?/ for like fourteen years. | 1098.6234 |
1070 | | 1099.2191 | Mm-hm. | 1099.8159 |
1072 | | 1100.1284 | And so | 1100.6832 |
1074 | | 1101.3314 | that was a highlight | 1102.1614 |
1076 | | 1102.3759 | of being at that church. | 1103.6115 |
1078 | | 1103.7888 | Shiloh, I learned n- a whole lot | 1105.3461 |
1080 | | 1105.5595 | being at Shiloh church, | 1106.8328 |
1082 | | 1108.4785 | learned a lot. | 1109.1919 |
1084 | | 1109.4623 | Um, | 1109.8074 |
1086 | | 1110.4322 | my singing | 1111.1689 |
1088 | | 1111.8952 | really grew /up/. | 1112.5807 |
1090 | | 1112.7345 | <sigh> I kind of thought I might make a- | 1114.3665 |
1092 | | 1114.4878 | try to make a career out of it, but | 1116.0172 |
1094 | | 1117.6667 | Uh, | 1117.7646 |
1096 | | 1117.8626 | just the singing part I was good at. But the other part of the music, the training, the- | 1122.1757 |
1098 | | 1122.7073 | the theory, the- all that stuff was too much for me. I wasn't ready for all of that, and so uh, | 1127.9519 |
1100 | | 1128.2550 | I lost interest in it, and- /and then I/ | 1129.9372 |
1102 | | 1130.0631 | dropped out. | 1130.5124 |
1104 | | 1131.7184 | And I just worked. | 1132.7361 |
1106 | | 1133.0147 | And uh, | 1133.6115 |
1108 | | 1134.6362 | I started /RD-WORK-5/, | 1136.4408 |
1110 | | 1136.5946 | and | 1137.1262 |
1112 | | 1137.9376 | that's where I retired from. | 1139.0147 |
1113 | DCB_int_01 | 1140.2597 | Now you worked- | 1141.1596 |
1115 | | 1141.3170 | I remember- | 1141.9418 |
1117 | | 1142.0724 | Well one thing that I know /RD-NAME-2/ talked a lot about | 1144.5857 |
1119 | | 1145.1452 | was | 1145.6255 |
1121 | | 1145.8680 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, | 1146.9673 |
1122 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1147.3310 | Mm. Mm. | 1147.8719 |
1124 | | 1148.3009 | <laugh> | 1148.8464 |
1125 | DCB_int_01 | 1148.8511 | and I wanna hear- | 1150.5297 |
1127 | | 1151.0287 | And I know you worked at a school not far from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, but you didn't work at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 1154.5294 |
1128 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1154.5620 | Mm-mm. | 1155.0050 |
1129 | DCB_int_01 | 1155.5086 | Um, | 1155.9609 |
1131 | | 1157.0520 | but I wanna- I want you to kind of talk about | 1158.8192 |
1133 | | 1159.3963 | being in school, | 1160.4594 |
1135 | | 1160.8931 | um, like- Cause you came through /RD-WORK-4/, [and then working] for /RD-WORK-4/. | 1164.6001 |
1136 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1162.9774 | [Mm-hm.] | 1163.3970 |
1137 | DCB_int_01 | 1165.2191 | And then, | 1165.7642 |
1139 | | 1165.9605 | also kind of- | 1166.7765 |
1141 | | 1167.3920 | Do you remember when he was in school? And like, | 1169.9379 |
1143 | | 1170.1944 | I mean I know you remember, but I [mean, do you] remember like, some of the- | 1173.0096 |
1144 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1171.4755 | [Mm.] | 1171.8579 |
1145 | DCB_int_01 | 1173.6391 | Tell me some funny stories about | 1175.3084 |
1147 | | 1175.4763 | him going through- Because that was a big part of what he talked about was /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary. That school really | 1180.7909 |
1149 | | 1181.0287 | changed his whole [outlook on everything.] | 1183.0291 |
1150 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1182.0079 | [<laugh>] | 1183.2342 |
1151 | | 1184.2263 | Yeah because um- | 1185.4526 |
1153 | | 1186.5204 | Let's see when he was three, I | 1188.4042 |
1155 | | 1188.4963 | put him in um, | 1189.4989 |
1157 | | 1190.2869 | day care. | 1190.8791 |
1159 | | 1191.3640 | And it was a church across the street from /RD-SCHOOL-2/. It was /RD-CHURCH-7/. | 1195.2669 |
1161 | | 1195.8766 | And they had a outstanding program, and he learned a- | 1198.4505 |
1163 | | 1198.5717 | did so well there. | 1199.6675 |
1165 | | 1200.0452 | And so | 1200.7213 |
1167 | | 1201.2762 | when time put him to | 1202.7159 |
1169 | | 1203.3567 | come out of that program, | 1204.5344 |
1171 | | 1204.7536 | go to school, | 1205.4903 |
1173 | | 1206.3389 | um, | 1206.7353 |
1175 | | 1207.7833 | I talked to his teacher and- about the program that they had at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 1210.8375 |
1177 | | 1211.1499 | with the tw- between the two places, and they | 1213.2482 |
1179 | | 1213.8859 | you know, | 1214.3568 |
1181 | | 1214.4967 | made | 1214.8418 |
1183 | | 1215.5319 | uh- | 1215.8816 |
1185 | | 1216.5437 | I had a- a kind of relationship with /RD-CHURCH-4/, so that | 1219.0477 |
1187 | | 1219.5422 | the kindergarten kids could come | 1221.0910 |
1189 | | 1221.2235 | to that school. | 1221.8769 |
1191 | | 1222.7722 | And so, I was working at | 1224.1618 |
1193 | | 1224.3809 | /RD-WORK-1/ | 1224.7228 |
1195 | | 1224.8227 | Elementary School, which was like, | 1226.4687 |
1197 | | 1226.7765 | four or five blocks away from | 1228.3526 |
1199 | | 1228.9447 | um, /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 1229.5229 |
1201 | | 1230.2364 | And I went in and talked- | 1231.4942 |
1203 | | 1231.7693 | Cause by this time, | 1232.9350 |
1205 | | 1233.3454 | we's living in Maryland. | 1234.4598 |
1206 | DCB_int_01 | 1235.0333 | Mm-hm. | 1235.4996 |
1207 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1236.9393 | And so I said, well, I kn- I- You know, working in school, and I knew about the residency and all of that stuff, | 1242.5208 |
1209 | | 1242.6327 | but I'd say, God, | 1243.5968 |
1211 | | 1243.8486 | hey I- | 1244.3615 |
1213 | | 1244.8091 | I can't send /RD-NAME-2/ just anywhere, /now I got/- You know, cause t- t- t- s- | 1247.9892 |
1215 | | 1248.7248 | t- He's my life. | 1249.4534 |
1217 | | 1249.5968 | <laugh> He was my life. | 1250.7112 |
1219 | | 1251.5086 | So | 1252.0355 |
1221 | | 1252.1241 | I went and talked to the principal, | 1253.5090 |
1223 | | 1253.7747 | and I explained to him | 1254.8892 |
1225 | | 1255.0419 | you know, I worked near by. And I would like | 1256.8884 |
1227 | | 1257.0703 | for him to be able to go there so i- I'd be close to him during the day and whatever. | 1260.7493 |
1229 | | 1261.3963 | So he was very kind, and he said, well yeah, okay, | 1263.7697 |
1231 | | 1264.0495 | we will work that out, and he did. | 1265.4810 |
1233 | | 1265.7607 | And /RD-NAME-2/ was able to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 1267.4849 |
1235 | | 1267.9185 | And so | 1268.6553 |
1237 | | 1269.7417 | that was the best thing I think coulda happened to him. | 1271.9519 |
1239 | | 1272.2131 | He- His- His pre-K teacher, | 1274.0677 |
1241 | | 1274.5760 | she was just great. She uh- What was her name? | 1277.0333 |
1243 | | 1277.2012 | Miss | 1277.6022 |
1245 | | 1278.1618 | /RD-NAME-1/. | 1278.5954 |
1247 | | 1279.8766 | And she uh- | 1280.9583 |
1249 | | 1281.0330 | she loved /RD-NAME-2/, and th- they had a good | 1283.0159 |
1251 | | 1283.2105 | connection and | 1284.0872 |
1253 | | 1285.2890 | all- all of his teachers, uh, eve- even from- | 1287.6578 |
1255 | | 1287.8163 | from pre-K he said, you know, /RD-NAME-2/ is | 1290.0685 |
1257 | | 1290.1757 | good. He | 1290.6280 |
1259 | | 1290.8006 | does all his work, | 1291.5500 |
1261 | | 1292.1237 | but he talks so much! | 1293.2008 |
1263 | | 1293.4946 | [<laugh> So,] | 1295.0613 |
1264 | DCB_int_01 | 1294.3619 | [<laugh>] | 1295.0706 |
1265 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1295.4483 | and he said, well | 1296.3623 |
1267 | | 1296.7714 | /it's a wonder he sees kids that-/ | 1298.5014 |
1269 | | 1298.6879 | pre-K teacher. But then the kindergarten teacher said- | 1300.9261 |
1271 | | 1301.6955 | she said, that /RD-NAME-2/, | 1302.8205 |
1273 | | 1303.5502 | he get all his work done, | 1304.6786 |
1275 | | 1304.7532 | then he all- Next thing, he's over there at that table, talking to somebody. Or he's over at this table to he- | 1309.5408 |
1277 | | 1309.7693 | to helping somebody, talking to somebody. | 1311.4433 |
1279 | | 1312.1101 | And he can be doing his work, and still doing something over here. | 1315.6061 |
1281 | | 1315.7040 | So you know, he's still like that, /and hm/ [multitask.] I said, boy go sit down, do what you supposed to do. | 1321.0617 |
1282 | DCB_int_01 | 1317.9515 | [Mm-hm.] | 1318.5391 |
1283 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1321.7180 | But anyway, he did- he did well al- | 1323.8967 |
1285 | | 1324.0028 | through all the wa- all the way through, and um, | 1325.9006 |
1287 | | 1326.4462 | first grade was Miss | 1327.8859 |
1289 | | 1328.6319 | uh- | 1328.9956 |
1291 | | 1329.5412 | Oh Lord. I can see her face. I can't think of her name now. | 1332.1804 |
1293 | | 1333.3683 | But anyway, she was tough. She loved /RD-NAME-2/ but she did not take no stuff off of him. | 1337.9613 |
1295 | | 1338.6234 | And so then sh- she turned out to be I think one of his favorite teachers. [<laugh>] | 1342.4505 |
1296 | DCB_int_01 | 1341.9515 | [Mm.] | 1342.4458 |
1297 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1342.6556 | [/Mm-hm./] | 1343.0613 |
1298 | DCB_int_01 | 1342.6556 | [That's usually] how it [is.] | 1343.8074 |
1299 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1343.7234 | [That's] right. | 1344.1944 |
1300 | | 1344.3856 | That's right. | 1344.8472 |
1302 | | 1345.6900 | And so, he came on up. Let's see, second grade, | 1349.5183 |
1304 | | 1350.5756 | I can't remember her name. She was a little white teacher. She was | 1353.4246 |
1306 | | 1353.9888 | kind of scary like- | 1355.0781 |
1308 | | 1355.2737 | like- | 1355.4343 |
1310 | | 1355.5229 | you know, she was in the school with all these black t- p- p- people, | 1358.2407 |
1312 | | 1358.4874 | children. She was- | 1359.4106 |
1314 | | 1359.8210 | didn't handle it too well, so she was gone after next year. | 1362.6514 |
1316 | | 1363.3077 | Third grade teacher was a Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 1365.6251 |
1318 | | 1366.2249 | and that's where /RD-NAME-2/ really | 1368.3343 |
1320 | | 1369.1118 | blossomed. | 1369.8719 |
1322 | | 1370.3662 | And she was | 1371.1728 |
1324 | | 1371.2754 | strong. She was tall, pretty young lady, and | 1373.8354 |
1326 | | 1374.6887 | he didn't like her at first. | 1375.9185 |
1328 | | 1376.4314 | And then sh- she kind of didn't like him. | 1378.1800 |
1330 | | 1378.6277 | And so you know, me, I'm up- I was always up there, you know. /His- didn't think some-/ He'd come home, /he didn't like-/ oh, I was up there uh, getting it straight. | 1385.2012 |
1332 | | 1385.3318 | You know, I don't mess with my child. I know. | 1386.8554 |
1334 | | 1387.3357 | <laugh> | 1387.8719 |
1336 | | 1388.2356 | So I went up there, and she wanted him | 1390.3945 |
1338 | | 1390.8795 | um, | 1391.2898 |
1340 | | 1392.1245 | to study for- | 1393.3520 |
1342 | | 1393.5362 | to- or to learn how to do the Martin Luther King speech | 1396.3292 |
1343 | DCB_int_01 | 1396.4971 | [Mm-hm.] | 1396.9820 |
1344 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1396.6836 | [for] | 1397.0333 |
1345 | | 1397.6349 | the | 1397.9100 |
1347 | | 1398.0405 | um, celebration that year. | 1399.7282 |
1349 | | 1400.5527 | And they bumped heads so much, and h- you know, well he studied and everything, and h- | 1405.4056 |
1351 | | 1405.5641 | he studied them lines and he got up there and | 1407.8023 |
1353 | | 1408.3386 | killed it. <laugh> | 1409.4530 |
1355 | | 1409.6022 | I mean he was just | 1410.4695 |
1357 | | 1410.9533 | so good. He- he j- He was a little short thing. | 1413.3547 |
1359 | | 1413.9003 | And uh, they had to stand him on a box at the podium <laugh> cause he's so short. | 1417.9838 |
1361 | | 1418.7205 | And so the- | 1419.2801 |
1363 | | 1419.3780 | the auditorium was full of people. You know, how in between things they talk a little bit, | 1423.1596 |
1365 | | 1423.5921 | so he s- | 1424.1330 |
1367 | | 1424.2449 | got up | 1424.5713 |
1369 | | 1424.6739 | there, | 1425.0516 |
1371 | | 1425.2614 | ps- just got up on the box, | 1426.5484 |
1373 | | 1427.2385 | put his hands on the podium like this, and just looked. | 1429.7600 |
1375 | | 1430.7205 | It's like, | 1431.1169 |
1377 | | 1431.2614 | you know, he was the king up here. y'all better pay attention to me. | 1433.9939 |
1379 | | 1435.0279 | And he waited | 1435.7413 |
1381 | | 1435.9885 | a lo- I know a good minute, | 1437.6205 |
1383 | | 1437.8023 | good- maybe a good minute and a half. | 1439.2292 |
1385 | | 1439.7468 | And people started, you know, what's going on? And they saw him sitting there, so they got quiet, then he started out. | 1444.1241 |
1387 | | 1444.5531 | I say today my friends and <laugh> you know, he started that speech. | 1448.6221 |
1389 | | 1449.4340 | And he- | 1450.2546 |
1391 | | 1450.4272 | Oh man. It was awesome. | 1452.3529 |
1393 | | 1452.4695 | It was so good. | 1453.4042 |
1395 | | 1453.9885 | He didn't miss a word, | 1455.0842 |
1397 | | 1455.1962 | inflections, everything. It was perfect. | 1457.1219 |
1399 | | 1458.1105 | So | 1458.6187 |
1401 | | 1458.9207 | that j- got him going, so then, | 1460.6090 |
1403 | | 1461.3081 | from there, he did | 1462.2453 |
1405 | | 1462.4085 | speeches at | 1463.1919 |
1407 | | 1463.3877 | churches, at | 1464.2131 |
1409 | | 1464.3436 | other schools in the d- in the system, w- | 1466.7112 |
1411 | | 1466.8604 | called him, wanted him to do the speech. He just- | 1468.9867 |
1413 | | 1469.5975 | everywhere, a church, at different churches, not just our church, but different churches. And | 1474.2173 |
1415 | | 1475.0800 | so | 1475.5183 |
1417 | | 1475.6861 | that really got him um, | 1477.1550 |
1419 | | 1477.4289 | I think on his way to public speaking. | 1479.4473 |
1421 | | 1479.5319 | You know, and he | 1480.4878 |
1423 | | 1481.0427 | was not afraid. He wasn't nervous. He would get up there, and he wouldn't forget anything, and | 1485.2288 |
1425 | | 1486.0075 | I was just so proud of him. And I, | 1487.6022 |
1427 | | 1487.8027 | you know- And I was a kind of | 1489.0011 |
1429 | | 1489.1771 | mother, I didn't miss | 1490.5247 |
1431 | | 1490.7812 | anything. | 1491.3594 |
1433 | | 1491.4759 | And whatever he had to do, | 1492.8748 |
1435 | | 1493.5649 | I made time to go | 1494.6560 |
1437 | | 1494.7586 | w- be with him and | 1496.1330 |
1439 | | 1496.6459 | I- | 1496.8884 |
1441 | | 1496.9863 | I- | 1497.2847 |
1443 | | 1497.4060 | I don't regret | 1498.0215 |
1445 | | 1498.4085 | not one [minute.] | 1499.5043 |
1446 | DCB_int_01 | 1499.0380 | [So] let's go back | 1500.1851 |
1447 | | 1500.3016 | because we kind of skipped um, | 1502.0398 |
1449 | | 1504.2873 | you know, | 1504.8002 |
1451 | | 1505.1592 | how you got have /RD-NAME-2/. Like, | 1506.8565 |
1453 | | 1507.2657 | cause we skipped from | 1508.2870 |
1455 | | 1508.3941 | I think junior high, | 1509.6112 |
1457 | | 1510.1101 | [and your friend] /RD-NAME-3/, [and we went] to church and- | 1512.8144 |
1458 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1510.1147 | [Mm.] | 1510.6230 |
1460 | | 1511.4157 | [Mm-hm.] | 1512.0125 |
1461 | DCB_int_01 | 1512.9580 | and then [we] | 1513.3823 |
1462 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1513.2797 | [Oh], okay. | 1513.9185 |
1463 | DCB_int_01 | 1514.0677 | started- So, | 1514.8698 |
1465 | | 1515.0842 | let's go back to high school. | 1516.2686 |
1466 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1516.4132 | Okay. | 1516.9960 |
1467 | DCB_int_01 | 1517.9519 | You went to /RD-NAME-2/, and did [you-] | 1518.9900 |
1468 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1518.8227 | [Went] to [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] | 1519.6807 |
1469 | DCB_int_01 | 1519.1305 | [and did you] like it? | 1520.0351 |
1470 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1520.2822 | [Oh yes.] | 1520.9583 |
1471 | DCB_int_01 | 1520.3335 | [What was your favorite] subject? [Who was your favorite teacher] if you [remember?] | 1523.6022 |
1472 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1521.7510 | [I enjoyed it.] | 1522.8188 |
1474 | | 1523.3178 | [Uh-huh.] | 1523.8493 |
1475 | | 1524.6980 | Um, | 1525.2669 |
1477 | | 1527.4340 | My home room teacher was named /RD-NAME-5/, and I can see her now. She was | 1531.4814 |
1479 | | 1532.1284 | nice young lady, had- | 1533.0190 |
1481 | | 1533.2941 | wore hair straight, and | 1534.4551 |
1483 | | 1534.6137 | she had big eyes. <laugh> | 1535.8960 |
1485 | | 1536.4882 | And uh, sh- | 1537.2293 |
1487 | | 1537.2984 | I had her- She was my home room teacher all the way though high school. | 1540.2033 |
1489 | | 1540.6976 | Mm, | 1541.0333 |
1491 | | 1541.1732 | just /something/ I don't know how they did that, but that's how that happened. | 1543.7273 |
1493 | | 1544.2729 | But um, | 1544.8278 |
1495 | | 1545.4246 | my favorite s- | 1546.0961 |
1497 | | 1546.2173 | I w- I was kind of leaning toward business so I- I took um- | 1549.5140 |
1499 | | 1549.9651 | I was really good at English and um- | 1551.9515 |
1501 | | 1553.4903 | I w- did pretty good at Math too. | 1554.9824 |
1503 | | 1555.4243 | /Though but/ my favorite subject was En- | 1557.0703 |
1505 | | 1557.2008 | English. | 1557.7231 |
1507 | | 1558.4645 | And then uh, I got- | 1560.0312 |
1509 | | 1560.1478 | /towards/- sometimes um, | 1561.4336 |
1511 | | 1562.0584 | after my first year, I w- | 1563.2801 |
1513 | | 1563.4246 | I got into the um, | 1564.5857 |
1515 | | 1564.9914 | typing and | 1565.8447 |
1517 | | 1566.0265 | you know, all the stuff that could lead me into a | 1568.0258 |
1519 | | 1568.4035 | business | 1568.8698 |
1521 | | 1569.7091 | [career.] | 1570.1334 |
1522 | DCB_int_01 | 1569.9935 | [Mm-hm.] | 1570.4038 |
1523 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1570.6370 | Mm-hm. | 1571.0940 |
1525 | | 1571.9519 | And uh, | 1572.8565 |
1527 | | 1572.9486 | I was part of the um- | 1574.6692 |
1529 | | 1575.3733 | the | 1575.5645 |
1531 | | 1576.0401 | cheer- Uh, what was it called? | 1577.2385 |
1533 | | 1579.6434 | The Pep Club. | 1580.3195 |
1535 | | 1580.6786 | I was president of the Pep Club, | 1582.1567 |
1537 | | 1582.2779 | so we had the games and all, and we /would just/- | 1584.3296 |
1539 | | 1584.4742 | you know, be out there | 1585.2715 |
1541 | | 1585.6248 | doing our things. | 1586.4408 |
1543 | | 1586.9723 | Um, | 1587.3594 |
1545 | | 1587.9142 | I liked Chemistry, and I loved my Chemistry teacher. | 1590.6141 |
1547 | | 1591.3310 | Her name was uh, | 1592.2263 |
1549 | | 1592.8698 | Miss /RD-NAME-3/. | 1593.6578 |
1551 | | 1594.2640 | She like a fashion model, tall pretty lady. | 1596.5628 |
1553 | | 1596.7959 | She was very sweet | 1597.8952 |
1555 | | 1597.9931 | and very kind and | 1599.1169 |
1557 | | 1599.8350 | I did well in Chemistry. I liked- | 1601.6628 |
1559 | | 1601.9193 | I like Chemistry. | 1603.0057 |
1561 | | 1603.2750 | I like Science too /earlier/. | 1604.8418 |
1563 | | 1605.2521 | That's been a good subject for me, | 1606.6463 |
1565 | | 1606.8468 | did pretty good in /there/. | 1607.9659 |
1567 | | 1608.6514 | And um, | 1609.2296 |
1569 | | 1610.3941 | /My um-/ | 1610.7672 |
1571 | | 1610.9444 | <cough> | 1611.3221 |
1573 | | 1611.7231 | I was not among- | 1612.7256 |
1575 | | 1612.8935 | I was not one of the pretty girls. I always had | 1614.9964 |
1577 | | 1615.7134 | a issue with weight. | 1616.9350 |
1579 | | 1617.3034 | My weight | 1617.6997 |
1581 | | 1617.8350 | and I was short, | 1618.8002 |
1583 | | 1619.6115 | but | 1619.8680 |
1585 | | 1620.2737 | my personality was so- | 1621.8299 |
1587 | | 1621.9978 | I was always included in the- | 1623.4713 |
1589 | | 1623.6811 | in the in crowd. <laugh> If you wanna call it that, the in crowd. | 1627.2051 |
1591 | | 1627.6807 | And so, I was u- I was really popular, | 1629.8256 |
1593 | | 1630.0448 | and I would have th- little parties. | 1631.9100 |
1595 | | 1632.3156 | Um, | 1632.7353 |
1597 | | 1634.0444 | when um- | 1634.8371 |
1599 | | 1635.4386 | /What was it-/ we lived on um- | 1636.8328 |
1601 | | 1637.4297 | Mm- | 1637.6162 |
1603 | | 1637.6861 | When I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, we lived on Ninth Street, | 1639.8999 |
1605 | | 1640.6926 | right down- right next door to Shiloh. | 1642.6463 |
1607 | | 1643.2199 | They- | 1643.4390 |
1608 | DCB_int_01 | 1643.4437 | [Oh.] | 1643.8214 |
1609 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1643.6069 | [Shiloh] owns some of those row houses there, | 1645.7786 |
1610 | | 1646.3801 | and so- | 1646.9841 |
1612 | | 1647.7464 | Before we got there, now I got to back track, my mother married | 1650.7027 |
1614 | | 1651.0990 | my stepfather, | 1651.9838 |
1616 | | 1652.0957 | <cough> | 1652.3242 |
1618 | | 1652.6273 | /RD-NAME-4/, that was his name. | 1654.2033 |
1620 | | 1654.7349 | And he lived in one of those homes, and so | 1656.6654 |
1622 | | 1656.8239 | that's where we moved to. | 1657.8766 |
1624 | | 1658.8091 | And I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ there, so I used to walk up, | 1660.8748 |
1626 | | 1661.6209 | um- | 1662.0778 |
1628 | | 1663.0978 | What was that street? | 1663.7180 |
1630 | | 1663.9838 | Thirteenth Street, | 1664.7065 |
1632 | | 1665.4853 | Northwest, | 1666.3607 |
1634 | | 1666.4178 | yeah, | 1666.7209 |
1636 | | 1667.2805 | and walk up that hill to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 1669.0925 |
1637 | DCB_int_01 | 1669.2144 | [Mm-hm.] | 1670.1890 |
1638 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1669.6108 | [And uh-] | 1670.1843 |
1639 | DCB_int_01 | 1670.2589 | [That's a big] old [hill. Oh my goodness.] | 1672.8235 |
1640 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1670.3428 | [<laugh>] | 1670.6040 |
1642 | | 1671.0190 | [The- big old hill. <laugh> Yup.] | 1672.7676 |
1643 | | 1673.6069 | Yup, s- and so uh, | 1675.2109 |
1645 | | 1675.4103 | Yeah, I really liked | 1676.3382 |
1647 | | 1676.4408 | going to that school. And I made good friends in the neighborhood. I had a | 1679.7747 |
1649 | | 1680.1851 | real close friend around the corner and- | 1682.1004 |
1651 | | 1682.8698 | and um, | 1683.5552 |
1653 | | 1683.8629 | we used to walk together, it'd be about six of us walk- | 1686.1338 |
1655 | | 1686.2364 | we'd walk up that hill. | 1687.2296 |
1657 | | 1687.8532 | And um, | 1688.6273 |
1659 | | 1689.6065 | those were- those were good years, so I was- | 1691.3644 |
1661 | | 1691.6395 | And I would have- Oh I was gonna say, I would have | 1693.7600 |
1663 | | 1694.3102 | little parties. Now we li- The place we lived was a little apartment, and I mean it was little. It was just | 1698.6141 |
1665 | | 1698.7166 | like, me, my mother, my st- | 1699.8719 |
1667 | | 1700.0817 | and my stepfather. | 1700.9404 |
1669 | | 1701.9982 | And I would have parties in that place, and it would be like, | 1704.5674 |
1671 | | 1704.7761 | thirty kids in- <laugh> /packed up/ in this little apartment. (laughing) | 1708.0168 |
1673 | | 1708.3992 | And we would have a ball, and my stepfather, he would | 1710.8612 |
1675 | | 1710.9766 | be just as tickled cause I was home. | 1712.7578 |
1677 | | 1712.9956 | I was doing w- You know, doing it- | 1714.4225 |
1679 | | 1714.7442 | Well I was there doing it, | 1715.7141 |
1681 | | 1716.2131 | wasn't out in the streets somewhere he didn't know where I was, so it- | 1718.7112 |
1683 | | 1719.0330 | He would be happy about that. | 1720.3526 |
1685 | | 1721.0007 | But we'd have fun, and so | 1722.6840 |
1687 | | 1723.0699 | I was uh- When I think back on it, I say oh, | 1725.2894 |
1689 | | 1725.4246 | that's funny how I was | 1726.6323 |
1691 | | 1726.9308 | a part of the in crowd, but | 1728.3285 |
1693 | | 1728.5616 | I wasn't the girlfriend type | 1730.0957 |
1695 | | 1730.2542 | that the guys would be after, you know. | 1731.8117 |
1697 | | 1732.2593 | But | 1732.4738 |
1699 | | 1732.6230 | that was cool too. | 1733.3084 |
1701 | | 1733.4716 | <laugh> | 1734.1478 |
1703 | | 1734.4928 | <laugh> | 1735.5222 |
1705 | | 1736.1144 | So uh, I did well. Like I said, I got /the/ | 1738.8375 |
1707 | | 1738.9354 | school letters, | 1740.0674 |
1709 | | 1740.1991 | you know, um, | 1741.0291 |
1711 | | 1741.7180 | for- | 1742.0211 |
1713 | | 1742.1470 | for participating in different things and | 1744.4106 |
1715 | | 1744.5158 | certificates and | 1745.7188 |
1717 | | 1746.9358 | I did okay in high school. | 1748.3662 |
1719 | | 1750.0681 | I was in the Glee Club. I was | 1751.9053 |
1721 | | 1753.2611 | uh, | 1753.7600 |
1723 | | 1753.9232 | [pep ra-] | 1754.4734 |
1724 | DCB_int_01 | 1753.9605 | [And at that point], you were | 1755.2101 |
1725 | | 1755.3500 | with the Uniques, right? | 1756.5531 |
1726 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1756.6137 | [Yeah, with the Uniques in- in high school], yeah. | 1758.9171 |
1727 | DCB_int_01 | 1756.7442 | [/You were with the Uniques/ in high school, okay.] | 1758.4882 |
1728 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1758.9906 | Cause we started there- When I went to Shiloh, I was fourteen, | 1761.9422 |
1730 | | 1762.7582 | and | 1763.3318 |
1732 | | 1764.5570 | I think we got together when- uh- two years after that, | 1767.3733 |
1733 | DCB_int_01 | 1767.6904 | Uh-huh. | 1767.9655 |
1734 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1767.9702 | and so we- Like I say, we were together for like, fourteen years. | 1771.1145 |
1736 | | 1771.8439 | And um, | 1772.4221 |
1738 | | 1773.6391 | we traveled- We went around the city doing a lot of singing. We got hooked up with some other | 1777.8766 |
1740 | | 1777.9885 | groups | 1778.4314 |
1742 | | 1778.8371 | that was singing and | 1779.8350 |
1744 | | 1780.4132 | we had a little name. W- <laugh> People [kn-] | 1782.7260 |
1745 | DCB_int_01 | 1782.4462 | [People] knew [you.] | 1783.2622 |
1746 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1783.0244 | [Uh-hm.] [Mm-hm.] We- | 1784.3475 |
1747 | DCB_int_01 | 1783.5175 | [/Inaudible./] | 1783.9045 |
1748 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1784.8138 | we re- did really well and uh, | 1786.5111 |
1750 | | 1787.4716 | we just all grew up and everybody went their different ways. Some uh, got married. | 1791.4899 |
1752 | | 1792.0961 | Um, | 1792.4924 |
1754 | | 1793.1732 | I got married- | 1794.0125 |
1756 | | 1794.3856 | When did I get married? In nineteen seventy eight. | 1797.1355 |
1758 | | 1798.2500 | Ten years after my graduation. | 1799.8953 |
1760 | | 1800.2270 | <laugh> | 1800.4882 |
1762 | | 1801.3450 | And I married uh, | 1802.6116 |
1764 | | 1802.9304 | my husband /RD-NAME-2/. | 1804.4785 |
1766 | | 1804.5577 | <laugh> | 1804.8515 |
1768 | | 1805.6346 | So we were married thirty seven years, | 1807.7553 |
1770 | | 1808.8604 | and uh, | 1809.6718 |
1772 | | 1810.0774 | two years after we got married, | 1811.5836 |
1774 | | 1812.4182 | we had /RD-NAME-2/. | 1813.1829 |
1775 | DCB_int_01 | 1813.1864 | Wow. | 1813.6481 |
1776 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1815.0656 | And [uh-] | 1815.7557 |
1777 | DCB_int_01 | 1815.4200 | [So you're] still married? | 1816.5810 |
1778 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1816.8888 | Huh? Still married. | 1818.0825 |
1780 | | 1818.3238 | <laugh> Yeah. | 1819.9139 |
1782 | | 1820.8931 | And uh, | 1821.5972 |
1784 | | 1822.1147 | I had /RD-NAME-2/ at | 1823.1639 |
1786 | | 1823.3691 | Sibley Hospital. | 1824.3623 |
1788 | | 1824.7586 | I'll never forget. I had a | 1825.7740 |
1790 | | 1826.2123 | wonderful doctor. | 1827.2521 |
1792 | | 1827.4293 | <clears throat> | 1827.8303 |
1794 | | 1828.5204 | And uh, I had /RD-NAME-2/ by C section, so I w- | 1831.6434 |
1796 | | 1832.0118 | I was in there for a little while. I had a little- | 1833.7417 |
1798 | | 1833.8769 | complications. | 1834.8468 |
1800 | | 1835.0893 | I was in there for awhile, but | 1836.1011 |
1802 | | 1836.9859 | he was a g- And we came on home. He was a good baby. | 1839.9655 |
1804 | | 1840.1334 | <clears throat> | 1840.8328 |
1806 | | 1841.0193 | Didn't have m- | 1841.4577 |
1808 | | 1841.8354 | problems with him. | 1842.7213 |
1810 | | 1843.5315 | I remember one- <laugh> one thing. I was- | 1845.3827 |
1812 | | 1845.7650 | we were sitting in a rocking chair in his room | 1847.7747 |
1814 | | 1848.5068 | n- after I fed him and stuff was- | 1850.2216 |
1816 | | 1850.5294 | I used to talk to him a lot. I talked to him | 1852.4085 |
1818 | | 1852.8795 | b- before I had him. | 1853.9006 |
1820 | | 1854.2084 | You know, I'd sing to him, | 1855.3457 |
1822 | | 1855.4289 | talk to him. | 1855.9139 |
1824 | | 1856.6086 | So we- | 1857.1029 |
1826 | | 1857.2148 | This night- particular night, I was talking and he was just looking at me. | 1860.5628 |
1828 | | 1860.8099 | I was like, why is he looking at me like that? | 1862.7672 |
1830 | | 1863.4386 | And for about- | 1864.2313 |
1832 | | 1865.3504 | about fifteen minutes or so, | 1866.9358 |
1834 | | 1867.3496 | that boy just stared at me. | 1868.6692 |
1836 | | 1869.5832 | I got a little nervous. I didn't why- I- or what that [was about.] | 1872.8286 |
1837 | DCB_int_01 | 1872.1851 | [<laugh>] | 1872.9032 |
1838 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 | 1873.3730 | He finally stopped, but he did that. I- I've never forget that. | 1876.8002 |
1840 | | 1876.9214 | I was just holding him in my arm. | 1878.5068 |
1842 | | 1880.1190 | <ts> | 1880.2403 |
1844 | | 1880.6040 | So but- | 1881.0516 |
1846 | | 1881.2335 | And I never knew what that was about, but I never forget | 1883.8027 |
1848 | | 1883.9053 | that happened (laughing). <laugh> | 1885.0430 |
1850 | | 1885.8113 | But we've always been | 1886.9723 |
1852 | | 1888.0635 | [uh, super close.] | 1889.6815 |