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2DCB_se2_ag4_f_051.2559<clears throat>2.4496
3DCB_int_013.0278Miss /RD-NAME-2/,3.7645
5 4.6272if could you tell me5.4711 
7 6.1519<clears throat>6.4923 
9 8.4123your birthday?9.0791 
10DCB_se2_ag4_f_059.8811March twelfth, nineteen fifty four.11.9561
14DCB_int_0118.4550Where were you born?19.1078
15DCB_se2_ag4_f_0519.8481Indianapolis, Indiana. Mm.21.5780
18 27.8065what neighborhood do you-28.8183 
20 29.2147do you claim as your neighborhood or the /leighborhood/ you live in?31.8527 
23 34.5619Trinidad.35.2473 
25 36.0400<clears throat>36.9202 
27 40.4919[North-]40.9396 
28DCB_int_0140.4919[/And how/-]40.8277
31 41.3779In Northeast Washington.42.8327 
32DCB_int_0145.9063And how long have you been in DC?47.4064
33DCB_se2_ag4_f_0548.6602Since nineteen sixty six.50.4869
34DCB_int_0153.3452Um, and besides Indianapolis55.1871
36 55.3445and55.9273 
38 56.0952Trinidad neighborhood, what other neighborhoods or other places have you lived?59.3511 
39DCB_se2_ag4_f_0559.6495Um, Parkland.60.5582
41 62.4000Southeast DC.63.7051 
43 67.2390And Hillcrest.68.1459 
45 71.2427S-71.4199 
47 71.8488Southeast DC.73.7082 
49 74.6827That was it.75.3076 
50DCB_int_0177.3313What about [school?]78.0960
51DCB_se2_ag4_f_0577.5551[<clears throat>]77.8955
52 79.2932Um,79.8807
54 81.0464which one?81.7226 
56 82.8370Elementary was /RD-SCHOOL-4/.84.9306 
58 90.8502Junior High was /RD-SCHOOL-4/.92.5242 
60 97.4797High School was /RD-SCHOOL-5/.99.8858 
61DCB_se2_ag2_f_01100.3054I knew you was gonna be [/inaudible/.]102.4037
63DCB_int_01110.8832And what about-112.5945
65 112.8510what do you- what do you- what is your occupation?114.6449 
68 116.3657I'm a, um, program coordinator118.6971 
70 119.2240<clears throat>119.5597 
72 120.2872for a third party inspection company.122.8226 
73DCB_int_01129.9417And where were your parents born?131.1914
74DCB_se2_ag4_f_05133.3958Um, both of 'em were born in Roanoke, Virginia. R-O-136.4173
76 136.5665A-136.9722 
78 137.0841N-137.4292 
80 137.5458O-K-138.2452 
82 138.4224E. Virginia.139.7082 
83DCB_int_01140.8786And what did your parents do?142.0023
86 143.9468my dad was, um,145.9880 
88 147.7878He coached, um,149.0888 
90 149.2193basketball in high school151.1171 
92 151.2559in, uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/-152.3237 
94 152.7527/RD-SCHOOL-5/ High School in Roanoke.155.4758 
96 156.9353And my mother,159.5547 
98 162.2872she used to work at a hotel. I don't remember what she did. I don't know if she was cleaning up or something. [She wasn't] doing much.168.2125 
100 168.2918<laugh>169.2305
103 171.6806So172.3754 
106 175.9087<clears throat>176.4449 
107DCB_int_01176.4636you moved here in nineteen sixty six. So you were179.4432
109 179.8675what?180.1146 
111 180.5203Twelve181.0321 
113 181.2466[ish?]181.7875 
117 184.0956when you first moved here- tell me about185.7556 
119 185.9141moving here and how- and what-187.2932 
121 187.4704what you remember about being like, when you189.2842 
123 189.4859first got to DC.190.5561 
124DCB_se2_ag4_f_05191.3138It was scary.192.3111
126DCB_se2_ag4_f_05194.0177Because I came from Virginia where people spoke to everybody. Everybody knew everybody. I didn't know nobody and nobody spoke200.9607
128 201.2732when I got here.202.1918 
130 203.1418Um,204.0418 
132 207.3384The- the girls my age,209.4729 
134 209.6128um, didn't like me because I was light skinned.212.6157 
136 213.5156Um,214.2011 
138 214.6569it was crazy.215.7387 
140 217.7391It was real crazy. I grew up in- in the n-219.9866 
142 220.5030in the building across from me, everybody in there was real dark but pretty.223.7484 
144 224.4292But they- I mean I can't help my skin color. It was just crazy.228.1444 
145DCB_int_01229.1842[So when you-]229.6272
147DCB_int_01229.8603when you moved here- where'd you- where'd you move to? Where was your first house?232.8154
148DCB_se2_ag4_f_05233.7247In Parkland.234.4941
149DCB_int_01234.6759In Parkland?235.3940
151DCB_int_01236.8209And what do you remember about it? Do you remember the neighborhood? Do you remember, like, some of the other people? I know you said people across from you were really, like, they were dark and pretty, but do you remember, like,244.7327
153 246.1817was it a lot of kids? Did you play [outside a lot?]248.3546 
154DCB_se2_ag4_f_05247.6225[It was a bunch] of kids around there.249.8700
155 250.4750It was a bunch of kids.251.8086
157 252.4428Um, we didn't jump double dutch in Roanoke.255.1659 
159 255.7208So when I got here, that was the first thing I had to learn how to do. And then I was better than they were so,261.0141 
161 261.4131that was, you know, that [wasn't good.]263.5770 
163 263.8319<laugh>264.1304
165DCB_int_01265.7437So they let- you couldn't play no more with them?267.2312
166DCB_se2_ag4_f_05267.3711No they wouldn't let me play with them no more. Say I took too long.270.0977
167DCB_int_01270.8485So, <laugh> [cause you wouldn't get out.]273.0307
168DCB_se2_ag4_f_05271.8696[They wouldn't-]272.9934
169DCB_int_01274.0554[So- <laugh>]275.0019
171DCB_se2_ag4_f_05276.1210Jump all day.277.0863
174DCB_int_01278.5737[So when you couldn't] play double dutch anymore280.2710
175 280.4611what did you do?281.2631
176DCB_se2_ag4_f_05281.8226Played basketball and baseball.283.6551
177DCB_int_01284.6250With the boys?285.3897
180 286.6476I was a tomboy.287.6967 
183DCB_int_01291.1006So tell me about your favorite292.6820
185 292.9460basketball game as- growing up, as a kid.295.4702 
186DCB_se2_ag4_f_05295.7437Oh, that was in school.297.0820
188 298.2326We used to beat everybody.299.5755 
190 301.0303And301.7297 
192 302.2240my thing was- at the time,303.9679 
194 305.0299most of the girls on the team were much taller than I am,308.2520 
196 308.9981so I could get to the basket better cause I could go under them312.0558 
198 312.5034and get to the basket.313.6598 
200 314.5224It [was good.]315.6555 
201DCB_int_01314.6670[So you played basketball] for- oh, cause your dad coached.317.4496
203DCB_int_01317.8972So when you all moved to DC, did he continue [to coach?]320.2753
204DCB_se2_ag4_f_05319.7950[No, my dad,] he rolled out when I was about three. He was gone.323.0228
205DCB_int_01323.0206Oh, he was go- okay. [Alright.]324.3215
206DCB_se2_ag4_f_05324.1490[Yeah] my mother remarried325.6505
207 325.7624in, um,326.5504
209 327.8013sixty five I guess.329.6459 
211 330.6666And331.8044 
213 333.8409my stepfather lived in Roanoke, but he moved to DC,337.4860 
215 338.1634and338.9421 
217 339.4912I saw him one day and told him where my mother was. Big mistake.343.1376 
219 343.6971They got back together, and then we moved up here.346.1871 
220DCB_int_01347.8319Gotcha, so that's how you got to DC.349.5992
223DCB_se2_ag4_f_05351.1986It was Stepfather.352.3130
226 353.5149And so,354.0837 
228 354.2096how long did you stay in Parkland?355.6696 
229DCB_se2_ag4_f_05357.1426Let me see. I got there in the sixth grade. I left there when I was360.5733
231 360.7226eighteen.361.4033 
233 361.5619Seventeen.362.3313 
235 363.0354Eighteen.363.6042 
237 363.8968[Yeah, about eighteen.]365.0195 
238DCB_int_01364.0367[So your whole childhood] in-365.6408
239 365.8972your whole childhood life in DC was in Parklands?368.4432
243 371.2910and that area right now is notoriously known for drugs and violence. Is it- was it like that then?376.5834 
246 379.2821I didn't even know380.2846 
248 380.4105anything about marijuana til I was, like, eighteen.383.4589 
250 384.7832I think I smoked my first joint when I was eighteen.387.4746 
252DCB_se2_ag4_f_05388.4517Didn't even know what it was. Didn't even know what I was doing.390.7832
253DCB_int_01391.8967So why'd you do it?392.5224
254DCB_se2_ag4_f_05392.5224On the basketball court. Cause the fellas was doing it.395.1512
255DCB_int_01396.0371And you wanted to be just one of the [guys?]397.5199
256DCB_se2_ag4_f_05397.3567[Ju-] I was one of the guys.399.1846
257DCB_int_01399.7814So let's talk about-400.7500
259 401.0672let's talk about school because I think school-403.6178 
261 404.6110let's think about middle school cause that's when you were- you moved here right?407.3423 
263 407.5617[/Is at your/ middle] school?408.4661 
265 408.8997Mm-hm.409.2868
267 409.5572Um, /RD-SCHOOL-1/.410.2753 
270DCB_int_01412.1766So tell me about middle school a little bit.413.7247
271DCB_se2_ag4_f_05416.0999Middle school was difficult for me because I was, I guess419.9188
273 421.1684in a way,421.8900 
275 422.1325um,422.8553 
277 423.1537more mature than the kids my age. I wanted to dress nice. They were wearing jeans and all of that stuff, and I liked to wear skirts and stockings.431.0049 
279 433.2745And the boys liked434.2258 
281 434.8646girls with435.4754 
283 435.7319dresses on versus pants at the time.438.1286 
285 438.9213And then you had the- the little boys that always wanted give you a jacket if you had his name on it.444.3198 
287 444.7943Your name on it, that mean you go together. Now if you pull the stitching out and his name is gone, he see you-449.8442 
289 450.2032it's no conversation. We broke up. We don't need talk about it.453.0045 
291 454.7764You know?455.4758 
293 455.8815Or we put his name on our tennis shoes.457.8248 
295 458.1791You get tired of him, you take it off.460.4826 
297 460.5945We broke up.461.5084 
298DCB_int_01463.4471Did you have a lot of jackets?464.7737
300DCB_int_01465.3495[And] a lot of tennis shoes?466.3800
304 467.2861/Ch-/467.5224
306DCB_int_01469.1160So you were a tomboy, but you were also a girly girl if you wearing the skirts [and dresses.]473.0282
307DCB_se2_ag4_f_05472.2914[Yeah.] Yeah.473.4245
308 473.7789But see, when you see me with the girls with the dresses and the- and the stockings on- see we wore nineteens then.479.2287
310 480.1566You wanna see a pair?480.9166 
312 481.3212I'm just kidding.482.0206 
314 482.6501We wore Nineteens and /Miller ?/. That was the style then.485.5551 
316 486.0120So486.4457 
318 486.6136they look better with a skirt on.488.3619 
320 488.9578And see everybody490.2774 
322 490.7670wore 'em,491.4618 
324 491.7369you know?492.3991 
326 493.7641But they look better with a skirt on. See when you bow legged and you got the fish nets on,497.8628 
328 498.7395they got the pretty legs, see?500.2071 
330DCB_int_01502.2448That's what worked for you. [That's what got all the boys?]504.5250
331DCB_se2_ag4_f_05503.1634[That- it worked.]504.1100
333 504.5203And then when you see me on the basketball court, it's like, that's not the same little girl with the long hair510.2452 
334 511.3305that we saw earlier looking prim and proper. Now she done change [into something] else.516.3947
336DCB_se2_ag4_f_05517.9087You know?518.6175
338 519.6526Go out, fight with the boys. We did everything.521.8955 
339DCB_int_01522.6462Were you good?523.2524
340DCB_se2_ag4_f_05523.6429I w- I was damn good.525.1863
341DCB_int_01526.4080At basketball and fighting?527.6903
342DCB_se2_ag4_f_05527.9794Basketball, fighting and basketball- uh, baseball.530.9252
343DCB_int_01531.6619Tell me about your best fight.532.9219
344DCB_se2_ag4_f_05534.1986Oh, Lord.535.3689
346DCB_se2_ag4_f_05536.7853This girl, /RD-NAME-4/,538.5199
348 540.6882she went to g-541.9320 
350 542.0859her and her family was543.5221 
352 543.7692in the military, and she left.545.6810 
354 546.5984And she had this boyfriend that would carry her books everyday, so I said, sure he can carry mine, too.551.2520 
356 552.1799So she left and553.4855 
358 553.7455/RD-NAME-2/ w- his name was /RD-NAME-2/.555.6013 
360 555.9883He would carry my books to school. Now I lived at Twenty First and Mississippi. I was going to560.2164 
362 560.6361/RD-SCHOOL-2/ at Fourth and Mississippi. We had to walk.563.5877 
364 565.4237She came back.566.4263 
366 567.8485I heard you was messing with my boyfriend, and pushed me.570.9633 
368 571.3118Me and this girl fought every day for four days.573.8065 
370 575.1681From Twenty First and Mississippi to Fourth and Mississippi, every day.578.5289 
372 579.7645And every time I would see her, because she had pushed me, I would go push her again and we would start fighting.584.5475 
374 585.9837And we would fight almost twenty blocks.588.1473 
376 590.6548[<laugh>]591.7832 
379DCB_int_01593.1354So who won?593.9514
380DCB_se2_ag4_f_05594.6882Who you think?595.6989
382DCB_se2_ag4_f_05596.2771[Me. <laugh>]600.0260
384DCB_se2_ag4_f_05600.6357That's why I kept- I could intimidate her, you know?603.7475
386 604.7158Which /now/ was wrong but,606.4410 
388 607.0938I knew she couldn't beat me.608.3610 
389DCB_int_01610.7904Did he continue carrying your books?612.6462
392DCB_se2_ag4_f_05614.6629And actually,615.5559
394 616.0968from then- one of-617.3254 
396 617.6093That had to be n-618.2877 
398 618.5675thirty years ago, forty years ago.620.8080 
400 621.4836I got a, um, text from him623.3995 
402 624.0476couple months ago,625.1550 
404 625.7542and he said,626.5959 
406 627.5419um,628.2413 
408 629.4607he said something630.5815 
410 631.1084about the fight. I said-632.3324 
412 632.4723N-632.6285 
414 632.7632yeah, you was fighting on my ex-girlfriend, /RD-NAME-2/. I said, no I was whooping her ass every day.637.6097 
416 637.9349He said, that's what I remember.639.2778 
423 646.7362[<laugh>]648.9417
425 648.9977[<laugh>]649.4453
427 649.7717You know, I'm'a come- I wanna come back to it.651.4783
429 651.6509But I wanna ask you- cause I totally forgot about653.7014 
431 653.8692asking you, kind of, about your family.655.2868 
433 655.9815So,656.3855 
435 656.5831<clears throat>657.1100 
437 657.4737when you were explaining your mom- so tell me a little bit about660.4101 
439 661.6831growing up.662.2800 
441 662.8349Your mom-663.6042 
443 663.8549was anybody in the house with you all?665.3097 
444DCB_se2_ag4_f_05665.9625My mom, my sister, and my brother. Then my mom had another baby, so I had two brothers and a sister.671.1660
445DCB_int_01673.3754Were you the oldest?674.1156
446DCB_se2_ag4_f_05674.9100No, I was next to the youngest.676.7123
448DCB_se2_ag4_f_05677.7795See after me, I was the baby for-679.5537
450 679.8778forever.680.6262 
452 680.7608I had a older sister, older brother, then me.683.2065 
454 683.6536Then she had my little brother685.0828 
456 685.5794when I was about thirteen.686.9770 
457DCB_int_01688.4162Oh, so similar to /RD-NAME-3/ and /RD-NAME-2/.690.7214
459 691.4500So he understands the str- you understand his struggle.693.8735 
460DCB_se2_ag4_f_05694.1766Oh yeah, that's my [buddy.]695.4123
461DCB_int_01695.1791[Mm-hm.] But you also understand her struggle. She was-697.1329
462 697.3707She was the baby. She was the only one,699.3478
464 699.5389then twelve years later, he come and pop up.701.4356 
466 703.0256So how did it feel to be dethroned?704.6810 
467DCB_se2_ag4_f_05705.9446Not too good.706.8900
469 709.1142But I had a messed up stepfather.711.1892 
471 712.3305You know, he wanted to play his little games at night with me, and715.5106 
473 716.0235I just told- I had a girlfriend that was being,718.2244 
475 718.7875um,719.3563 
477 720.1770sexually abused by her father.722.2940 
479 723.1379And I wasn't going through that. I just told him, I will cut your725.8086 
481 726.0931heart out and have it laying on the table when my mom get home from work at midnight.729.6882 
483 729.8654I ain't going through this with you.731.2537 
485 732.9184So I called and told my dad, and my dad called him and told him,735.9819 
487 736.8014if you touch my daughter again,738.5640 
489 738.8951I'm coming down there just to kill you. I'll be back in Milwaukee before your last breath.743.9929 
490DCB_int_01745.9116And he didn't bother you [anymore?]747.0354
492DCB_int_01748.2512And did your mom and749.0859
494 749.1885stepfather stay together for a-750.5034 
496 751.1236a long time?751.9629 
497DCB_se2_ag4_f_05752.9374Not really. I'd say maybe ten years.755.8646
499 757.4220Yeah, maybe about ten years.759.3254 
501 760.5077Because he was-761.6734 
503 761.9065he was messing with the lady that used to bring him home every day.765.1286 
505 766.1580And me and my brother- and they'd be767.5848 
507 767.7667drunk when they get there and me and- sometime me and my brother used to rob him and give my mother the money,772.6989 
509 773.2724his paycheck.774.0371 
511 777.8689That's what we did.778.7500 
512DCB_int_01780.8531Tell me about your siblings. Your older- your-782.7183
514 783.0493your older brother.783.7440 
515DCB_se2_ag4_f_05784.6755My older brother,785.8506
517 787.0918he got married young788.5318 
519 789.0167and left.789.8094 
521 791.0019And that marriage didn't last too long, and then he ended up out there on the streets on crack.796.4156 
523 796.6149Still on crack.797.7620 
525 797.9392He's sixty three years old.799.3147 
527 800.6716And, um,801.7523 
529 803.8180we still talk but we had some differences806.1074 
531 806.3825after my sister passed away last year808.6627 
533 810.5500because that meant that I had to be out in Bowie every day.814.9600 
535 815.4496Cause my mom and my sister lived together, so I had to come out there and take care of my mom while my sister was going through what she was going through.822.0837 
537 823.2028And my brother wasn't doing his part.825.2918 
539DCB_se2_ag4_f_05827.2537So we had some altercations.829.1236
540DCB_int_01831.0120[What about your younger sibling?]832.2384
542 833.6035Uh,833.7107
544 834.2516Love him to death.835.3287 
546 836.1121That's my best friend, man. We were never close838.6680 
548 839.2771becau- Uh, the age difference.840.9650 
551 842.1354he's a boy. I'm a girl.843.6695
553 844.1125And I met my husband when I was seventeen. I was with him from seventeen til he died when I was fifty four.850.3282 
554DCB_int_01852.0464So we'll talk about that in a second.853.6738
557 855.1193and so,855.7907
559 856.1673but you're still very close with your youngest brother?858.2283 
561DCB_int_01859.6411Okay, and then you said your mom. So your mom is still living.862.0239
562DCB_se2_ag4_f_05862.3725Yeah, she's living with my younger brother.864.4055
563DCB_int_01865.0396In Bowie.865.5479
564DCB_se2_ag4_f_05865.9536N- No, he lives in Beltsville.867.5256
565DCB_int_01867.5891Oh, in Beltsville.868.4851
567DCB_int_01869.1512Did you have a really close relationship with your mom?871.0350
570 874.7781Mm-mm.875.2258 
573 876.8112Mkay.877.1376 
575DCB_int_01878.9934Alright, amen.879.8793
577 880.3445So when you were se- um, so in high school,882.6853 
579 883.4966um,884.0282 
581 884.2333you went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. Tell me about /RD-SCHOOL-2/.885.9913 
583DCB_se2_ag4_f_05888.9277/RD-SCHOOL-2/ was a good school.890.4711
585 890.9234We had good teachers except for, um,893.9439 
587 895.7624my history teacher.896.9794 
589 898.2244In my senior year,899.7480 
591 901.1329you know, um,902.5364 
593 903.2125anybody could teach you Black History then.905.3900 
595 905.5848I had a white906.1350 
597 906.4288teacher teaching me Black History, so I told her, you can't tell me nothing.909.7420 
599 910.9227You're white. You never lived in the black community. I really don't like [you,]914.8800 
601DCB_se2_ag4_f_05915.8374and I'm not coming in here anymore. So she failed me, and I needed919.2868
603 919.8883that920.0981 
605 920.2846class to graduate.921.7441 
607 921.8549So I had to graduate from summer school923.8599 
609 923.9905because of her.924.7552 
611 925.4826When I told my926.4152 
613 926.6950summer school teacher why I was there because they were like,929.8646 
615 930.2982you got all these As and Bs and Cs. How you get a F in Black History? And I told 'em why.935.0019 
617 935.4403They said, we gonna give you a A. Don't come back here no more.937.6785 
619DCB_se2_ag4_f_05940.8947It was just like that. And see, the only white people that went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ came from Bolling Air Force Base.946.1218
621 948.0651You know?948.5267 
623 949.0583And949.5013 
625 950.4199it wasn't a real violent school. We didn't have a lot of fights. It was no big problems there.955.8137 
627 956.3173School was good.957.5296 
629 957.8840It was fun, and you learned, you know.960.1583 
631 960.8764So961.4500 
633 961.5899I don't know.962.2706 
635 962.5877I don't know what happened to these kids now.964.4948 
636DCB_int_01964.6662Did you have a favorite subject or a favorite teacher? I know you didn't like this one, but did you have like-968.6996
637DCB_se2_ag4_f_05968.9934I loved music.970.1349
640 971.4554<snap>971.6000 
641DCB_se2_ag4_f_05971.6443[Because] we had a good choir,973.3812
643DCB_se2_ag4_f_05974.0200and we used to sing at different schools and go to different places and977.6005
645 977.7865got breaks from school, you know.979.5141 
647 979.8312See, I can't sing, girl, but I was on the choir.982.0361 
649 982.6237Hanging out with everybody else.984.0453 
651 985.1620Did it for three years, yes I did.988.0874 
653 989.8972You got breaks. [<laugh>]993.2125 
655DCB_se2_ag4_f_05995.8226Music and lunch.997.1888
659 1001.7340<laugh>1002.3822
662 1006.0472I- I- I can't say I didn't like English, math, and all of that. I was good at that too. I hated history.1011.7616 
664 1014.1910I mean, what's your point?1015.1003 
666 1016.6297They dead. It's over.1018.4424 
668 1019.3423Why you gonna tell me about it?1020.6143 
670 1021.3894Put that drama in my life?1022.7509 
672 1023.0866I don't care.1023.8840 
674 1025.0999That's the way I felt.1026.1585 
676DCB_se2_ag4_f_051026.9697I really felt that way.1028.1587
678 1028.8861I mean now I understand why we need history.1031.7247 
680 1032.3822But then I didn't. And, uh, my mother wasn't-1034.8535 
682 1035.0773my mother I think she grad-1036.4424 
684 1036.6196dropped out in like the ninth grade, so what was she gonna tell me?1039.3660 
686 1040.8302My stepfather was crazy.1042.7140 
688 1043.6687He told me, I don't care how good you are in school. I'm not sending you to college.1047.4066 
690 1049.4542So I basically had to fend for myself, um,1052.8535 
692 1053.7768from the first day in DC on.1056.0884 
694 1057.6971Because he lied and told us, we gonna move to DC. Y'all going to private schools.1061.8879 
696 1062.5081/RD-NAME-2/, you- I know you gonna need a car, so you gonna have your own car, and this that and /all/- we ready to go to DC.1067.4076 
698 1068.7226That nigga worked out in, um,1070.9374 
700 1073.8879They called it Children's Center at the time, in Laurel, where bad kids went when they had problems. That's where they stored bad kids.1081.5479 
702 1082.1681And his thing to get me to straighten up was,1084.3643 
704 1084.7362you gonna end up out here where I work. And I'm like, shit. (breathy)1087.3847 
706 1089.3431And that's where- and, you know, n-1090.6178 
708 1091.0066all the government would supply all the k- uh, bad kids with their clothes out there.1094.9048 
710 1095.2452That nigga thought I was gonna wear that.1096.8994 
712 1098.4335From the- m- from the-1099.7344 
714 1099.9256<laugh>1100.1960 
716 1101.3618the plaid shirts and plaid pants and /?/ (laughing) <laugh>1106.9048 
718 1108.5123So I had to keep a connection with my dad to get money to wear nice clothes. And then when my sister graduated from high school1115.1791 
720 1115.7573and got a job, she bought my clothes.1117.9722 
722DCB_se2_ag4_f_051118.9887You know, cause my mother wasn't making that much.1121.1325
724 1121.8739So,1122.3215 
726 1123.7484it was crazy.1124.7836 
727DCB_int_011125.5809So once you left high school, what did you do?1127.3750
730 1129.4220Moved in with my boy- my husband.1131.4317 
731DCB_int_011132.2839Oh, cause that's- okay. So before we- Okay. So now you are married at this p- So how did you1135.8603
733 1135.9909meet him and how did y'all get mar- and like-1137.9400 
735 1138.9180how did you [decide to get married?]1140.3076 
736DCB_se2_ag4_f_051139.2584[I met him,]1140.2609
737 1140.8671um, this guy, /RD-NAME-4/ and his brother /RD-NAME-2/,1144.2197
739 1144.6849they used to hang over my girlfriend's house.1146.9371 
741 1147.4220They used to always say, you so pretty. Why you don't have no boyfriend? I told 'em, I don't even like men. They ain't right.1152.3682 
743 1153.3147So one of 'em said, if I introduce you to a guy that make good money,1156.6709 
745 1157.0719got his own house, got his own car,1159.5199 
747 1160.0235that just1160.6250 
749 1161.2825looking for somebody,1162.3876 
751 1162.9227you wanna meet him? I'm like, okay.1164.6200 
753 1165.6691So that's how I met him.1166.7882 
755 1168.0181And when I first met him, I was scared of him cause he was drunk all the time.1171.1236 
757 1172.5411My husband's smoking weed and1174.1171 
759 1174.5357drinking wine. And they- when they go to the liquor store, they do- they go- It was three of 'em.1178.7602 
761 1179.0354/RD-NAME-2/, /RD-NAME-2/,1180.0286 
763 1180.4844and /RD-NAME-2/.1181.1745 
765 1181.7340You would think they'd go in there and get1182.7552 
767 1182.9557three bottles of wine. They go in there and get nine of 'em. Three for /RD-NAME-2/. Three for /RD-NAME-2/. Three for /RD-NAME-2/.1187.6128 
769 1191.2778And all three of 'em on a Friday probably made a lot of money.1194.3169 
771 1194.9790And that's who I hung out with.1196.7136 
773 1197.9866And I stayed with him-1199.9905 
775 1200.3402Let me see. I had my daughter when I was twenty two.1203.0540 
777 1203.8793We got married when I was twenty six.1206.0651 
779 1207.3520Been together ever since.1208.8022 
782 1210.4004when you left, and y'all were married, where'd you move to?1212.9277 
783DCB_se2_ag4_f_051213.6785<clears throat> When I left where?1214.8878
784DCB_int_011215.5809When y'all got married, where was your first house toget- or-1217.6687
785DCB_se2_ag4_f_051217.8692Oh, we [lived on Florida Avenue.]1220.0655
786DCB_int_011217.9189[or when y'all met, when you left/.]1219.7251
787DCB_se2_ag4_f_051220.3934Florida Avenue Northeast.1221.8202
789 1222.1968/RD-ADDRESS-5/-1222.9568 
791 1223.1853What was that?1223.8661 
793 1224.5609/RD-ADDRESS-10/, wasn't it?1226.3747 
794DCB_int_011227.7130Tell me about that house.1228.7570
795DCB_se2_ag4_f_051230.0293When I moved there, the house didn't have a shower.1232.9529
797 1234.5885The house was old,1236.2125 
799 1236.8922and he used to always say, well why you always gotta go out with your friends? I said, fix this house up like you want me to be here then.1243.1125 
801 1244.1372Girl, what I say that for? I looked up, they was tearing the house down. We was moving out.1248.8980 
803 1249.4202He had gutted.1250.5941 
805 1251.6853E-1251.8205 
807 1252.0303Plumbing, electrical, everything was just1254.2685 
809 1254.5389taken out of the house and all new stuff put in. All new furniture, everything.1258.0758 
811 1259.3557Now you gonna stay in the house. I said, a little bit. <laugh>1261.8755 
813 1262.0760[<laugh>]1262.8750 
817DCB_se2_ag4_f_051266.7937Always had a nice car,1268.3604
819 1268.5883you know.1269.1688 
821 1270.0781He was a good guy.1271.0060 
822DCB_int_011272.4066Do you feel like y'all were like-1273.9174
824 1274.9777That y'all had made it?1276.0198 
827 1278.8753He was the best. He was the best for me anyway.1281.6165 
829 1282.3229I mean, he wasn't perfect. He was perfect for me.1284.3763 
831DCB_se2_ag4_f_051285.2436I mean, I never-1286.5306
833 1287.3787You know he was one of the type, when we were just dating, he'd call me, say, okay it's payday. Come on, what- what do you need? Are your bills paid? What do you need to do?1294.7093 
835 1295.4064And I'm'a- you know, I was working too. I'm good.1297.9629 
837 1299.0540I think he liked the fact that1300.5447 
839 1300.9833he h-1301.3050 
841 1301.5382he already had,1302.5687 
843 1302.7412um,1303.3474 
845 1305.4958kids, and1306.3678 
847 1306.5217I didn't have any.1307.4729 
850DCB_int_011313.0206And so then,1314.0558
852 1314.9184that's when y'all got together.1316.0795 
854 1316.2019So then how'd you have your daughter?1317.5162 
856 1318.3229I mean I know you- how you had her,1319.5073 
858 1319.8121but I mean-1320.3810 
859DCB_se2_ag4_f_051320.5046Are you kidding me? I didn't do nothing. I was raped. [<laugh>]1325.5959
862DCB_se2_ag4_f_051327.9268Let me tell you, that was the most scariest thing to tell somebody because I felt like if you1332.6136
864 1333.1113have a baby, we should plan this together.1335.6480 
866DCB_se2_ag4_f_051336.7111You know?1337.2427
868 1337.9701And, when I found out that I was pregnant- Now I was on birth control. I don't know what happened.1342.8367 
870 1343.6903But anyway, I went for a physical, and they told me I was pregnant.1347.1164 
872 1348.3287So I left the doctors, went to the liquor store, got me a half a pint of Hennessy,1353.3954 
874 1354.4080put it in a cup,1355.4152 
876 1355.7090and all then-1356.3291 
878 1357.1467bout that much chaser, and I drunk it, so I could t- have the- t-1360.7764 
880 1361.7929just tell him, you know.1363.0099 
882 1364.3097You pregnant?1365.1723 
884 1365.5407Oh my God, I got to go call and tell the boys.1367.8302 
886 1368.5844With my baby? Y- rea- are you kidding me? I mean he was so happy.1372.4919 
888 1372.9862And I'm sitting here, like why am I drunk then?1374.8409 
890 1376.8040You know?1377.4661 
892 1378.1609It was just-1379.7043 
894 1379.9701that man loved me.1381.0146 
896 1383.2190I mean anything I did was fine, long as it was beneficial to the family. Me having his baby was just the ultimate.1389.7878 
898 1390.7764Only thing he said,1391.7882 
900 1391.8955just make sure it's not a girl.1393.4331 
904 1397.4432I couldn't help it.1398.3804 
906 1398.4923It was a girl.1399.4176 
908 1400.3144And sh- her mother.1401.9137 
910 1402.7158And it's just been crazy ever since.1404.9073 
912 1406.7853I mean he just-1407.9744 
914 1408.3008I don't care.1408.9256 
916 1409.2100I could be on the phone, like, I was talking to my mom one day, and I said, mom,1412.6921 
918 1413.2236you know they got white Christmas trees out now? I n- I need to get me one of these, but they so expensive. He say something like,1418.9019 
920 1419.3775get off the phone, I'm'a buy you one.1420.9282 
922 1423.2978Ma, I got to go. [<laugh> You know. (laughing)]1426.8929 
924DCB_se2_ag4_f_051428.1286Or I come home, /RD-NAME-2/, there's a new car- when the Cougar first came out?1431.6500
926 1432.7484I was like, it's a new car out, and I sure could use one.1436.3423 
928 1437.0744He said, well wait til the kids come home. We'll go get one.1439.8488 
930 1440.9388He didn't even know what it looked like.1442.2211 
932 1444.0536I went got me a black on black1445.4012 
934 1445.6996Cougar.1446.1333 
936 1447.0414He was just good. We were good together.1449.4241 
937DCB_int_011449.5127What year was that?1450.3334
938DCB_se2_ag4_f_051451.1960Um, nineteen seventy1453.4098
940 1454.8273four was when the Cougar came out.1456.8101 
941DCB_int_011458.2032So what was going on in the city?1459.7921
943 1460.0159Like, so you had- In your world, in your home,1462.8603 
945 1463.2100you had the good l- like l- you were living the good life. Y'all were comfortable, but [what was going] on around you?1467.7785 
947 1470.0633Um, that's when we s-1471.1311
949 1471.3911It started going into the drug selling.1473.7878 
951 1475.1401Um,1475.9421 
953 1477.8108but my kids weren't allowed to go1479.5360 
955 1480.5712away from hollering distance.1482.2965 
957 1483.8201You know?1484.3517 
959 1484.9205Um, like I said, he had the two kids and,1487.1867 
961 1487.9328um,1488.5949 
963 1489.4237they-1489.7362 
965 1489.8900I w-1490.1512 
967 1490.9951I was with him like four years before my daughter was born.1494.2058 
969 1494.6462So I'm tryna mould them into what they needed to be cause they was bad as I don't know what.1499.4665 
971 1500.6648But1500.9062 
973 1501.9833<clears throat>1502.2491 
975 1503.8811it was just a lot going on. Everybody partied out in front of they house, and1508.1698 
977 1508.8273all the k-1509.4055 
979 1509.5827That was the village raising the kid?1511.8535 
981 1513.0146I r- I grew up in that-1514.0439 
983 1514.2957that1514.5848 
985 1515.1024neighborhood.1515.8391 
987 1517.4432I see my neighbor's kids doing something wrong, beat they ass, call they mama.1521.4754 
989 1522.2774She'd get 'em,1523.0935 
991 1523.7369and to this day, they still call me and say, thank you for being who you were.1527.4008 
993 1527.9324You know?1528.4826 
995 1529.9260/I tell her, you telling-/1531.1265 
997 1531.9833<clears throat> if your kid come in my house and they do something wrong with my kids, I'm gonna beat them altogether.1537.6243 
999 1538.3843If I can't touch your kid, keep 'em out my house.1540.7857 
1001 1541.7043That's the way we did,1542.7534 
1003 1542.9528you know?1543.3818 
1005 1543.9040And it worked for us1545.0884 
1009 1546.8556um, as the years went on on Florida Avenue,1549.5974 
1011 1550.2071uh, the drugs got worse,1552.0117 
1013 1552.4546the kids- every time you turn the TV on, everything on the news- that's when they were killing five hundred kids a year in the city.1559.1960 
1015 1559.7882Just right here in DC.1561.1451 
1017 1562.0159Every kid looked like my children,1563.8485 
1019 1564.3287my boys.1565.2380 
1021 1565.8209And I'm like,1566.4037 
1023 1566.5425oh Lord, now I got to move.1568.4916 
1025 1568.8739I mean I remember nights,1569.9464 
1027 1570.4080I'd be- We'd be up in the, um,1572.3757 
1029 1572.9435arch1573.3864 
1031 1573.5543of the bedroom,1574.5475 
1033 1575.0698and the gunshots were so close, me and my husband both would hit the floor.1578.8001 
1035 1580.6501It was terrible.1581.5733 
1037 1582.3008And, um,1583.5877 
1039 1584.3524what was that night?1585.1731 
1041 1585.8527Two thousand1587.2391 
1043 1589.2846three or four I think,1590.3711 
1045 1590.7255that's when we moved to Southeast.1592.4921 
1047 1593.2330They ain't no ambulances, no nothing.1595.4152 
1049 1596.1053But,1596.6182 
1051 1598.1232um, the city was in an uproar. I even still remember like it was yesterday when King got killed, when everybody went up1604.5988 
1053 1604.7200Eighth Street and,1605.4428 
1055 1606.0816um,1606.6598 
1057 1606.7717broke into everything, and1608.1333 
1059 1608.5576I mean, just tore up the black neighborhoods. They did not go up Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue and1613.6483 
1061 1613.9374do-1614.3011 
1063 1614.7068taking nothing from them white people1616.0999 
1065 1616.8926that they say killed King.1618.5153 
1067 1618.9396Why are you tearing up your own neighborhood? Then they can't even get to the store. They got to go across town. They ain't go no car.1624.1702 
1069 1624.6785Tryna get to the grocery store, tryna get to the cleaners, tryna get to wherever they needed to go.1629.1273 
1071 1629.5081Cause they tore up they own stuff.1631.0375 
1073 1632.0400Everybody had free liquor. Everybody had free everything.1634.9205 
1075 1635.2749My husband said, y'all better not bring none of that stuff in here.1638.1193 
1077 1638.5063You know, we got boys in here. We gotta teach them right from wrong.1641.6246 
1079 1642.6831It was terrible.1643.7556 
1081 1645.7548I mean people was bragging about,1647.5920 
1083 1648.2122I got all new living room furniture. I got all the liquor you need.1652.4263 
1085 1652.7946They was selling liquor on the corner.1654.8976 
1087 1655.2427They was selling liquor on Sundays.1657.2850 
1089 1657.8434All of this from1658.8599 
1091 1659.6806King getting killed.1660.9582 
1093 1661.6064It was crazy.1662.6197 
1095 1663.5357You couldn't come out the house after five o'clock1665.9697 
1097 1666.4919unless you had a pass that you on your way to work1669.0099 
1099 1669.5730or you went to jail.1670.7060 
1101 1671.9510They had all the military men staying in our gyms.1675.0845 
1103 1675.5123You know, we j- we- we couldn't even take gym for months and months and months because1679.5458 
1105 1680.3618that's where the military men slept.1682.4076 
1107 1683.4661They're monitor the streets after five o'clock1685.5970 
1109 1685.7696w- we not supposed to be out there.1687.5030 
1111 1688.9532It was-1689.3868 
1113 1689.5314It was a process.1690.9116 
1115 1691.2940You know (laughing).1691.9981 
1117 1692.7103And then you look around, you be like,1694.0812 
1119 1694.5102damn.1694.8366 
1121 1695.5393/Some/ good looking men up in there, and we can't go in there and play with 'em? <laugh>1699.9040 
1124DCB_se2_ag4_f_051701.9557[<laugh>] With benefits.1704.6415
1125DCB_int_011704.6788[<laugh> Benefits.]1706.9578
1128 1706.7760[Yes.]1708.0350 
1129DCB_int_011707.1444[Yes. Thank] you.1708.4640
1132 1709.5318what about,1710.1379
1134DCB_int_011710.9306do you remember the Civil like-1711.9740
1136 1712.2910the Civil Rights, like,1713.4066 
1138 1713.6934you lived that time.1715.0736 
1140 1715.3627That ain't something you1716.0056 
1142 1716.3950read in a history book. That wa- you were alive in that whole-1719.7400 
1144 1720.7845You [were younger.]1721.4939 
1146 1721.5586<clears throat>1721.6332
1148 1721.8518Yeah, but1722.5652 
1150 1722.6748the only thing that I- that really stands out in my mind as far as, um,1726.3975 
1152 1726.5094prejudice,1727.2228 
1154 1728.9079my dad took me,1730.4327 
1156 1731.2901my mom, my sister, and all of us to the beach.1734.3105 
1158 1735.0659And they said everybody could come in there- no.1737.5267 
1160 1738.0583Nobody's coming in there but my mom.1740.0260 
1162 1742.9485My mom is1744.5013 
1164 1746.4364part Sicilian so she looks white.1748.6607 
1166 1750.8463So1751.6623 
1168 1752.5763when they said that,1753.7688 
1170 1754.5335my daddy got mad and spit on the man.1757.5038 
1172 1759.2932The man hit my daddy,1760.9578 
1174 1761.7459and my daddy commenced to try to kill him.1764.0260 
1176 1766.2677They locked my dad up.1767.6480 
1178 1768.2821We had to call my grandmother come get us from the beach.1770.8887 
1180 1773.2796I don't remember,1774.5013 
1182 1775.3173um,1775.8302 
1184 1776.2732white and black water fountains. I don't remember having to sit in the back of the bus.1780.8758 
1186 1781.9188That was before my time.1783.4995 
1188 1784.4030Even being born nineteen fifty four, it sound like a lot of stuff was going on, but I was never1788.6462 
1190 1789.0985around it.1789.7932 
1192 1791.8158Because all my m-1792.7018 
1194 1793.0188all the women in my family look white, and they had the blackest men you ever seen in your life.1797.4460 
1196 1798.1329All of 'em.1798.7997 
1198 1799.2613I'm like,1799.6297 
1200 1799.8115all my aunts got jet black men.1801.9087 
1202 1803.7179And then they stand there just as fuzzy white looking as they could be.1806.7395 
1204 1807.7268And people thought1808.9951 
1206 1809.2982that, um,1810.4267 
1208 1811.5691my mom was white and she was dating a bunch of black men.1813.8108 
1210 1815.6060So therefore, a lot of kids in the neighborhood, we were not allowed to play with.1820.4496 
1211DCB_int_011821.5547[Because they thought y'all] were biracial.1823.1261
1212DCB_se2_ag4_f_051821.5594[You know what I'm saying?]1822.4406
1213 1823.2940Yeah.1823.7136
1215 1824.3851That woman down there got them niggas hanging all up in there.1827.2190 
1217 1827.8065I don't want my kids playing with them half1830.1659 
1219 1830.6788breed kids. I said, we weren't half breed though.1833.1817 
1221 1834.3287My brother is your complexion.1836.4877 
1223 1837.5170My older brother- my younger brother is1840.2075 
1225 1840.6738darker than me,1841.7789 
1227 1842.2872and my sister was darker than me.1843.8947 
1229 1845.0698So how we biracial? You know?1846.9629 
1231 1847.2706It was crazy.1848.1892 
1233 1848.4224But that was Virginia.1849.5664 
1235 1850.0206The common wealth.1850.9886 
1236DCB_int_011851.7319What part of- do you- this was- you were still in Roanoke at this [point?]1854.1613
1239DCB_se2_ag4_f_051855.2139It was crazy.1856.2817
1241 1856.8319People just didn't want us to play with their children1859.3266 
1243 1859.6017or the white people would let us play with their children. We ain't wanna play with them.1863.5733 
1245 1864.7391It was just1865.7090 
1247 1865.8442crazy. So1867.0052 
1249 1867.2804it just g- I remember a point in time when we only1869.7505 
1251 1870.2308hung out with family.1871.4012 
1253 1872.9773On Saturdays, everybody went to Grandma's to get their hair done. She was a hairdresser.1877.6733 
1255 1878.4399So all the little girls in the family would go up1880.8739 
1257 1881.2516my grandmother's house and get their hair done.1883.6250 
1259 1884.1286And we played all day long.1885.6767 
1261 1886.6361Sunday, you had to go to church.1888.4640 
1263 1889.4711So during the week, you did nothing but go to school and study.1892.0486 
1265 1894.6225That was it.1895.2333 
1267 1896.1100And then Mama not having a man in the house, well-1898.5941 
1269 1899.6340except the ones that she was dating,1901.8768 
1271 1902.4504um,1903.0414 
1273 1903.7455it was really nothing to do but1905.5687 
1275 1906.0536for a single mom,1907.8069 
1277 1908.8782we had everything we needed or wanted,1910.9672 
1279 1911.2003you know.1911.6992 
1281 1914.1892That's why1914.9959 
1283 1915.4284I just- you know, me and my mom didn't always have a good relationship,1919.2240 
1285 1919.9234but for her to be a single mom,1921.6429 
1287 1921.7781I1922.0952 
1289 1922.5428think that now at this age that I am, I respect the fact that she was able to do what she did by herself.1929.1117 
1291 1930.1935Because me and my husband /scuffled/ to raise our children.1933.8248 
1293 1934.2864She raised three kids by herself.1936.3427 
1295 1936.8929I mean, yeah, granted she had a lot of men coming and going.1939.9180 
1297 1940.2771Uh,1940.5801 
1299 1941.7086but she did what she had to do for her children,1943.8022 
1301 1943.9561you know.1944.3804 
1303 1944.7068So,1945.0659 
1305 1945.5636mm.1945.8574 
1307 1946.9812Til she married that idiot that brought us up here.1949.7578 
1309 1952.0812Mm.1952.5492 
1310DCB_int_011954.2308So you left-1955.1028
1312 1955.5318I wanna go back to Florida Avenue cause I wanna1957.8947 
1314 1958.3750talk about how you transitioned.1959.7785 
1316 1960.0863So when you left Florida Avenue, that was, you said, the early two thousands.1963.1580 
1318DCB_int_011963.8714And then you moved to Hillcrest.1965.4661
1320DCB_int_011967.8255And why did you decide [to move to that-]1969.1895
1321DCB_se2_ag2_f_011968.5331[No I think it was] ninety five.1970.4962
1322DCB_se2_ag4_f_051972.1003When, uh, we moved [over there.]1973.5224
1323DCB_se2_ag2_f_011972.7950[Ninety six], cause remember, my eighth birthday party, when I had the moon bounce, the clown, the pony.1977.3122
1324DCB_se2_ag4_f_051978.3147What year was that?1979.3219
1325DCB_se2_ag2_f_011979.4711I was- that was ninety eight.1980.3757
1327 1982.8692But that's when I had1983.5967 
1329 1983.7226the whole carnival.1984.6971 
1330DCB_se2_ag4_f_051984.6971That's all that was.1986.1659
1331DCB_se2_ag2_f_011986.2545That was my eighth.1986.9252
1333 1987.7035But- And I was /there/- we was at /RD-ADDRESS-8/. That was my Disney World party.1991.5271 
1335 1991.9468We was living1992.6462 
1337 1992.8502on /RD-ADDRESS-4/.1993.6755 
1339 1995.5221I think we left1996.2914 
1341 1997.2333after my mom [/graduated high-/.]1998.7115 
1342DCB_se2_ag4_f_051997.6204[/RD-NAME-2/ I got married] in nineteen eighty,1999.7500
1343 2000.7340okay?2001.1863
1345 2001.7039You was born in what?2002.7906 
1348 2004.1986My mom graduated high school in ninety four.2006.1512 
1350 2006.7433I think we-2007.4708 
1352 2007.6837I think you moved Thirtieth Street in ninety five,2009.5458 
1354 2009.8349ninety six.2010.4737 
1355DCB_se2_ag4_f_052010.8280No, I moved on Thirtieth Street like two thousand three,2013.4734
1357 2013.7878two thousand two.2014.8790 
1361 2017.5823Is that good?2018.1418 
1362DCB_se2_ag2_f_012018.4916No! My eighth birthday party2020.2262
1364 2020.4826was the2021.1774 
1366 2021.3546carnival.2022.0307 
1368 2023.3864In the back yard. You remember that?2024.8926 
1369DCB_se2_ag4_f_052024.8879And what year was that?2025.9137
1370DCB_se2_ag2_f_012025.9324Ninety eight.2026.7531
1371DCB_se2_ag4_f_052027.7090Oh damn.2028.7290
1373 2030.0626Well maybe I moved over there in ninety.2031.9091 
1375 2032.3008No, ninety two or ninety three [then.]2034.3757 
1379DCB_se2_ag4_f_052035.7828That's [that.]2036.2584
1380DCB_int_012035.9600[So early] nineties.2037.2423
1382DCB_int_012037.8065So what made you move?2039.0172
1384 2039.4245Cause you went [from-]2040.2265 
1385DCB_se2_ag4_f_052039.9328[It was] so bad. I mean,2041.8108
1386 2042.7620um,2043.5873
1388 2044.7111my youngest son was selling- both my boys were selling drugs. My daughter was around there with her camera taking pictures of the drugs to show to me and my husb-2052.5856 
1390 2052.9633husband. [Um],2054.3377 
1391DCB_se2_ag2_f_012053.6710[/Hiding drugs/ in my] stroller.2055.0013
1392DCB_se2_ag4_f_052056.4873On hiding drugs in /RD-NAME-2/'s stroller, taking her down to the corner.2060.4433
1394 2061.1304It was terrible over there.2063.1074 
1396 2063.6157I remember one night, my son- my youngest son came in the house, and I heard him screaming.2068.1189 
1398 2068.7764And my husband saying,2069.8675 
1400 2070.3571come back here. I want my mama. I want my mama.2073.1257 
1402 2073.8086So he came in the bedroom, my husband was behind him.2076.3208 
1404 2076.8104He had a big bag,2078.4144 
1406 2079.5382and it had money, drugs, and a beeper in there.2082.0830 
1408 2082.1995Cause when I took the bag and dumped it on my bed, and I'm like, what is this thing?2086.0697 
1410 2087.0583And he said, it's a beeper. And I said, what is a beeper?2089.1741 
1412 2089.2860I didn't know.2089.9575 
1414 2090.7128And, um, that's when I found out that's how you2092.7832 
1416 2092.9137contacted drug dealers, and2095.0529 
1418 2095.5238he said, mom, /finally/,2096.5780 
1420 2096.7175if I stop selling drugs,2098.1537 
1422 2098.2329the guy gonna kill me.2099.3241 
1424 2100.8850What guy? So,2101.8968 
1426 2102.2699we went around, me and my son,2104.1070 
1428 2104.4381and my husband went around the guy's house, nobody opened the door.2107.1508 
1430 2107.5611So I took the drugs and the money and the beeper down to the, um,2111.1562 
1432 2111.9629narcotics unit with the police department,2114.4098 
1434 2115.0952telling them to please save my son. They're gonna kill him if he stops selling drugs.2119.4445 
1436 2119.8689This is what he gave me,2121.4169 
1438 2121.9112and it was like,2122.5314 
1440 2122.9930eighteen hundred dollars in there. And you know back in the day, that was a lot of m-2126.3818 
1441DCB_int_012126.1175[Lot of m-]2126.5435
1442DCB_se2_ag4_f_052126.5683I had five dollars in my pocket,2128.5873
1444 2129.0163but I refused to s-2130.0981 
1446 2130.2415spend drug money2131.3559 
1448 2131.7430from my kids.2132.6242 
1450 2133.6641That wasn't a good2134.6200 
1452 2136.1074thing for them to see.2137.2114 
1454 2137.3793Well it's alright if she's spending the money too. No, hell no, n- n- Mama ain't spend nothing. Mama gave that to the police. I want you to see this.2144.6809 
1456 2144.7828You know?2145.3004 
1458 2145.7713It was just2146.6153 
1460 2146.8718too much.2147.5199 
1462 2149.1321It was too much, so we decided that we wanted to move.2152.4381 
1464 2153.3287So one day I told my husband- I said, let me show you this house I2156.4937 
1466 2156.6429always wanted to live in.2158.1210 
1468 2159.0490They got a maid and a butler.2160.8069 
1470 2161.5145These were white people,2162.8807 
1472 2163.3004and2163.5708 
1474 2163.7107I-2163.7946 
1476 2163.8832let's just go. I wanna sh- you to see the house. Well girl, we rode around there, and it was a for sale sign in the yard.2169.5988 
1478 2170.9790And that's where I moved to.2172.0795 
1480 2173.0995Up here on Thirtieth Street.2174.4098 
1482 2175.3190And2175.6781 
1484 2176.6573it was something about that house. Every time I rode past it, they had the-2180.2139 
1486 2180.5357the curtains open, it was beautiful in there.2183.1049 
1488 2183.7344And that was my dream house.2185.6677 
1490 2186.2745When I took my mom around there to sho- I didn't tell her where I was moving. I said,2189.7904 
1492 2189.8929I want you to see the house I'm buying.2191.4678 
1494 2191.9948She just started crying. She said, you always wanted that house.2194.8811 
1496 2196.4886Who does that?2197.4678 
1498 2198.7548You know, as a kid, you want this house.2201.1795 
1500 2201.6924As an adult, you go show it to somebody /s-/2203.7756 
1502 2204.2792So,2204.8434 
1504 2205.0299when we2205.5801 
1506 2205.8879parked the car, he went that way. I went that way. We met in the backyard and rolled in the grass say, we claiming this.2211.8832 
1508 2213.6505And I lived there for twenty two years til he passed away.2216.6849 
1510 2218.8438<ts>2218.9650 
1512 2219.1329Yep.2219.3567 
1513DCB_int_012220.0876So how did you feel when you found out you were having a granddaughter?2222.6242
1515 2222.8376Well,2223.0451 
1517 2223.2596you didn't know she was a granddaughter at that point, but.2225.0542 
1518DCB_se2_ag4_f_052225.5718When I found out her mother was pregnant at thirteen?2227.8706
1520DCB_se2_ag4_f_052228.9845I was hurt.2229.6396
1522 2231.1766She had just gradu- her mother had just graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ school,2235.1261 
1524 2236.4772and2237.2186 
1526 2237.9507the school called me.2239.2936 
1528 2240.6458So I told my coworker. I said,2242.3046 
1530 2242.5145<sigh>2242.9201 
1532 2243.1719/RD-NAME-2/ pregnant.2244.0812 
1534 2245.0837She said, you know, /RD-NAME-2/ ain't doing nothing like that. I said, this is the worst thing that can happen, so I gotta get- digest this,2250.1651 
1536 2250.7294and whatever else2251.5454 
1538 2251.7599behind it I can handle. Well soon as I get there, /RD-NAME-2/ pregnant.2255.5496 
1540 2258.1982I mean what could I do? I had to deal with it.2260.2067 
1542 2260.4072How pregnant are you?2261.7455 
1544 2262.2164She was about2262.9159 
1546 2264.0816seven months.2265.0919 
1548 2267.2092And2267.8061 
1550 2268.0486I'm like, I just saw you naked this morning.2270.4593 
1552 2272.4632Still wasn't show- that baby was in her back.2274.8273 
1554 2275.0185Looked like the day after I found out she was pregnant, everything popped out this away.2278.5891 
1556 2279.6616But2280.0299 
1558 2280.6734the day that I found out she was pregnant, I got five speeding tickets.2284.3839 
1560 2284.9854I was just aimlessly running through DC trying to find a doctor to take care of my grandbaby.2289.9922 
1562 2292.4263What was I gonna hit her for?2293.5220 
1564 2293.6573Baby wasn't gonna go away.2294.8650 
1566 2295.6565I ain't gonna hit her.2296.2580 
1568 2296.9062You go to jail for that. I'm no- uh-uh.2298.9812 
1570 2299.6200We going to get you s- straight.2301.2706 
1572 2301.9736And then when the-2302.6823 
1574 2303.0740I remember the day that it hit me I had to raise another baby.2306.1982 
1576 2308.1088I was boohooing at my desk. My coworker said, what in the world just happened? I said, girl I'm getting ready to raise a baby.2313.3266 
1578 2314.2953And2314.8875 
1580 2316.2270the night she was born,2318.0756 
1582 2320.0622it was m- my daughter and I had our2321.7874 
1584 2321.9507first real serious conversation because I told her,2325.6297 
1586 2326.1787you know, black people don't give no baby away.2328.1092 
1588 2328.9438And I always wanted another kid, but I wasn't willing to give birth to it.2332.4725 
1590 2333.9740So2334.5848 
1592 2335.2469I said,2335.9837 
1594 2336.8079are you gonna keep this baby or we giving it up for adoption? You know that baby coming here and you need to make a decision.2342.9209 
1596 2343.7777And she said, Ma, don't make me give my baby away. We started crying. Okay, we having a baby. We gonna keep the baby. We w- we went through our thing.2350.3513 
1598 2352.3843So of course, soon as the baby born,2354.4406 
1600 2354.5945the doctor that delivered her w-2356.7709 
1602 2356.9295lived in my neighborhood.2358.1838 
1604 2359.1350That's the only doctor I could get that-2360.8277 
1606 2361.3488by her being so far gone and being so young that would even2364.3330 
1608 2364.6268look at my daughter.2365.6013 
1610 2366.3381So, um,2367.2566 
1612 2368.5005as soon as the baby was born,2370.3144 
1614 2371.1210came out of my daughter into my arms.2373.3254 
1616 2373.4607Why you do that?2374.2394 
1618 2375.3911I fell in love.2376.9535 
1620DCB_se2_ag4_f_052379.6518I told her, I don't care what you do. This mine, right here.2382.0859
1622 2383.0931You know?2383.7226 
1624 2384.1515That was the prettiest baby in the world2386.5145 
1626 2386.7150til /RD-NAME-2/ came.2387.6802 
1628 2388.1092I'm just kidding. [<laugh>]2391.9234 
1629DCB_int_012388.9812[<laugh> (clapping)]2392.3186
1631DCB_se2_ag4_f_052393.1372But I always wanted another little girl.2395.3682
1633 2395.7645Sometimes you got to be careful what you ask for.2398.0249 
1634DCB_int_012398.1927Cause you might get it.2399.0274
1635DCB_se2_ag4_f_052399.0321Cause you might get it,2399.9087
1637 2400.1558you know.2400.7014 
1639 2401.4288And2401.9650 
1641 2403.0981my daughter'll tell you, the first day /RD-NAME-2/ told me she loved me, I had to take off of work.2407.0697 
1643 2408.8172I got weak in the knees, girl.2410.3186 
1645 2411.8667I said, say it again.2413.1024 
1647 2413.5267I said, you ain't going to babysitter, I ain't going to work. We just gonna love each other all day.2418.2584 
1649 2418.4915That's what we did.2419.2936 
1651 2420.3660We been in love ever since.2421.7742 
1653 2422.7756Right?2423.0321 
1654DCB_int_012425.3262So that's your other daughter?2426.4369
1657 2428.8922Mm-hm.2429.2605 
1659 2429.3445Yeah I took everybody to court, and then she was on this side and me and my husband on this side. We adopted.2433.7089 
1661 2435.9227Mm-hm. Because,2437.1583 
1663 2437.7832first off, my daughter is-2439.6250 
1665 2440.7989She can be kind of2441.8387 
1667 2443.7738mean or2444.9442 
1669 2445.3861I don't know what the word to describe that thing.2447.4564 
1671 2448.1791But2448.4729 
1673 2448.7946I said she'll never get mad at me and take this baby.2452.0715 
1675 2452.9528Cause if she do I'm'a have her ass locked up.2454.8226 
1677 2456.6458Sh-2456.8743 
1679 2457.1716She too young to even have her /shot/-2459.1999 
1681 2459.3818M- /I signed/ for her to get the /shot/. What she gonna do with her?2461.7319 
1683 2462.6738So I need to protect this baby,2464.5551 
1685 2465.2699adopt her,2466.4076 
1687 2466.9205and let /RD-NAME-2/ know,2468.0490 
1689 2468.8043if you get mad at me and take this baby, you going to jail.2471.9180 
1691 2474.4360What else was I supposed to do?2475.6099 
1693 2477.2605Til you get twenty one, graduate from college, get married, whatever,2480.6085 
1695 2480.9862give her the lifestyle she accustomed to-2482.9528 
1697 2483.3118But I knew she couldn't touch the lifestyle this thing was accustomed to this, I remember going in Hecht's,2487.7463 
1699 2488.5145and Hecht's ain't have nothing in there she ain't already have.2491.5267 
1701 2492.3966I remember going in Lord and Taylor's. L- L-2494.3084 
1703 2495.0731/RD-NAME-2/ wore the best of everything. And then at first-2498.3780 
1705 2498.9608And then once /RD-NAME-2/ got a little older,2500.8586 
1707 2501.6315I would buy their clothes at- I forgot that store. I'd dress 'em alike.2504.8722 
1709 2506.4716Both 'em had the same Reeboks.2508.0430 
1711 2508.6061Both of 'em had on their- their designer clothes.2511.4513 
1713 2511.9400But if I couldn't afford for one, I ain't buying for nobody.2514.8066 
1715DCB_se2_ag4_f_052516.2095/Cause they ain't about two of them/.2518.0613
1717 2518.6954My girls.2519.6268 
1719 2521.6552Mm-hm.2522.4479 
1720DCB_int_012524.0426And so then you moved over here.2525.7341
1722 2525.9859Has it been different,2527.0257 
1724 2527.4361um,2527.7625 
1726 2527.9117this- cause this is not-2529.1054 
1728 2529.5250this is a very different neighborhood.2531.2410 
1731 2532.6434Very small.2534.1355 
1733 2535.2505Well actually,2536.5462 
1735 2537.1944um, they started2538.4114 
1737 2538.5827doing all of this renovation and tearing down over there where I was living. I had a beautiful home over there,2544.4067 
1739 2545.3148but,2545.5988 
1741 2545.9769you know, when they tearing down and rebuilding, you get mice.2548.6674 
1743DCB_se2_ag4_f_052549.5114[And I'm] scared to death of 'em. I let them be homeowners.2552.1402
1744 2553.0914I said, I got to go (laughing).2554.2338
1746 2554.8493It was too many of 'em.2556.0010 
1748 2556.7366This boy would come over there and kill mice or get 'em out the house for me every day.2561.3941 
1750 2561.8658Every day that trap had mice in it. I had to leave.2564.9142 
1752 2565.6556I'm scared of mice.2566.7001 
1754 2567.3109/If m-/ too many of y'all, and it's just one of me, y'all got it.2570.5925 
1756 2571.1660So when I found this place, I was like, okay.2574.2703 
1758 2575.2542<ts>2575.3241 
1760 2575.3661I got underground parking.2576.8629 
1762 2578.9519I'm right here at the elevator.2580.4848 
1764 2581.2076When I get off the elevator down in the garage, my car is right there.2585.0498 
1766 2587.3801Two bedrooms, two bathrooms.2589.1800 
1768 2589.7022Um, when /RD-NAME-2/ come home, she'll have a home that she ain't got to be afraid in as-2594.3500 
1770 2594.5645as I was.2595.6556 
1772 2596.4529And it was more building for her to come home from college2600.2894 
1774 2601.1194and have a decent home2602.8213 
1776 2603.4601to come home to,2604.4020 
1778 2604.6807you know.2605.1190 
1780 2605.7205Because I'm'a tell you I was scared to death in that house. Them damn mice, man.2609.7539 
1782 2610.8858I mean, it was just like- and my son was paying a hundred and fifty dollars a week-2614.4529 
1784 2614.8913No, every two weeks,2615.9666 
1786 2616.4335for exterminator,2617.5853 
1788 2618.1821and it wasn't killing nothing.2619.6648 
1790DCB_se2_ag4_f_052621.0311I said, oh no, I can't do this no more. I was living in the bedroom and2624.5412
1792 2625.1333came home one day and the daggone mouse was climbing up the curtain. That was it for me.2629.5235 
1794 2630.3966I had to go.2631.1707 
1795DCB_int_012632.2664So when,2632.8679
1797 2633.4741um,2634.0104 
1799 2634.4335for /RD-NAME-3/ you- you made sure she went to college.2636.9795 
1801 2637.3059Was that really important to you?2638.7187 
1804 2640.9977I ain't care.2641.8744 
1806 2643.6369I said, I went through two winters with no heat.2646.3134 
1808 2647.8977Make sure she had what she needed.2649.7395 
1810 2651.2456<sigh>2651.6886 
1812 2655.0075I didn't pay my car notes. I didn't pay my insurance.2658.1642 
1814 2658.7273Yeah, I paid my car notes. I didn't have no insurance on my car.2661.5390 
1816 2662.9099I just wanted her-2663.9404 
1818 2664.4708I wanted to make sure that she had the lifestyle that she had if her granddaddy was here.2668.6581 
1820 2669.6373You know?2670.1129 
1822 2670.7972If she called and said, Grandma, I need a suit.2673.2359 
1824 2674.6348What I pay for that suit?2675.7213 
1826 2677.0257They got you in trouble.2678.1728 
1828 2678.8256Something like four hundred dollars for a suit,2680.9239 
1830 2681.8751and everybody got mad at hers cause theirs was eighty dollars, and,2685.3665 
1832 2685.8421you know,2686.3923 
1834 2686.8726I-2687.3762 
1836 2687.6700/RD-NAME-2/ always had the best of everything.2689.8286 
1838 2690.8023She still get the best-2691.8421 
1840 2693.0078You can't give /RD-NAME-2/ just anything.2695.3759 
1842 2696.8396She ain't gonna take it2697.6636 
1844 2697.9633cause /RD-NAME-2/ is used to /part time/ quality stuff.2700.2563 
1846 2700.6014This thing too.2701.4780 
1848 2704.8400And I remember she came home, brought her little boyfriend with her one time. He got scared cause the mice ran him out of there too.2711.0311 
1850 2711.9544And I did not want her to finish school and come into that envi-2715.1567 
1852 2715.2779I wasn't gonna stay there no way, so2716.8913 
1854 2717.3529that didn't make no difference. I [was done with it.]2719.5340 
1856DCB_se2_ag4_f_052719.7625[Me and] /RD-NAME-2/ were tired of chasing mice, wasn't we?2722.1265
1857 2724.0243And2724.4114
1859 2724.8718you know, all my grandchildren say I love him more2727.7349 
1861 2727.9307than anybody else.2729.3482 
1863 2730.1444But /RD-NAME-2/ was there.2731.6972 
1865 2731.9117/RD-NAME-2/ would spend the night with me and say,2733.8468 
1867 2734.5602Ma, I'm'a stay with Grandma cause I don't want her in here with them mice by herself.2737.9909 
1869 2738.0935And he would spend the night with me every night.2739.7535 
1871 2741.3762And I still appreciate that because for him to be so young2744.9235 
1873 2745.5157and to2746.1032 
1875 2746.2245think like he was thinking, I needed that.2748.2936 
1877 2748.7180Nobody else was doing it.2750.0189 
1879 2750.1635/RD-NAME-2/ was doing it.2751.2779 
1881 2751.6463That's why /RD-NAME-2/ w-2752.7514 
1883 2753.1710I don't say no to /RD-NAME-2/.2754.4708 
1885 2756.5178Very s- if I don't have it, I don't have it.2758.7327 
1887 2759.3389But if it's something that he wants or he needs-2762.0314 
1889 2762.6391Me and /RD-NAME-2/ got it going on. /RD-NAME-3/ call me and tell me she getting ready beat /RD-NAME-2/.2766.3636 
1891 2766.6667I go around there and get him.2767.6505 
1893DCB_se2_ag4_f_052770.2245How many times I done- don't I come around your house?2772.2330
1894DCB_se1_ag1_m_032772.3356I remember that night she done beat me for some, uh, alcohol.2774.8769
1896 2775.1800<ts>2775.3292 
1898 2775.6043Man.2776.1452 
1900DCB_se1_ag1_m_032777.1885Grandma bought the bottle of alcohol and took me with her.2778.8998
1901DCB_se2_ag4_f_052779.1982I wanted cigarettes and alcohol and took /RD-NAME-2/.2781.3105
1903 2782.6488You remember that night?2783.6746 
1905DCB_se2_ag4_f_052787.3152This one right here is-2788.7607
1907 2789.2037that's my heart.2789.9358 
1908DCB_int_012791.0537It sounds like both of 'em.2792.2474
1909DCB_se2_ag2_f_012792.7976But she [has ten grandkids.]2794.7933
1911DCB_int_012796.3309Oh, see, I didn't know that part.2797.6366
1913 2798.0655[<laugh>]2798.9002 
1914DCB_se2_ag4_f_052798.2194[The other ones] don't come around.2800.0333
1915 2800.8679Um,2801.3715
1917 2801.8274that's the- you know, they denying themselves, you know.2804.7463 
1919 2805.3292Um,2806.0006 
1921 2806.9565every year for your birthday for the last couple years, all you wanted was a hundred one dollar bills.2811.4411 
1923 2812.3923/RD-NAME-2/ get that /dollar too/. Last week, I went to David little birthday thing, they got fifty.2816.9795 
1925 2817.1660I don't know you.2818.1405 
1927 2819.8378I know them /too/.2820.7180 
1928DCB_int_012822.5645Well I know you. I can be your grandchild. I don't- I'll let- [You can have] me.2825.8332
1932 2826.9045I was [gonna-]2827.4081
1933DCB_int_012827.1096My birthday already passed, but [we can-]2828.8955
1934DCB_se2_ag4_f_052828.2474[I was gonna-]2829.0121
1935DCB_se2_ag2_f_012828.3500[But a lot of that] partly comes from, we lived with you. Like the other [grandkids]2832.4114
1936DCB_int_012831.2118[That makes a difference.]2832.3776
1938DCB_se2_ag2_f_012832.6387[live-] So- [/We- we was around her/.]2834.6997
1939DCB_se2_ag4_f_052833.4221[But that's true too.]2834.5621
1941 2836.3109[That makes a big difference.]2837.4092
1942DCB_se2_ag4_f_052836.3224[And you know-]2837.5161
1943DCB_se2_ag2_f_012836.9657[But even still], it's still a open house. We had a lot of space, so if they wanted to come and spend the night, they could, but it seemed like2841.4598
1944 2841.5670they only come around- Cause like I said, my grandfather, he had a lot of money and so,2844.7926
1946 2845.1423if our cousins and their friends would come over when they wanted something.2848.0753 
1947DCB_se1_ag1_m_032848.0659Like Christmas.2848.7700
1948DCB_se2_ag2_f_012849.2596Like, you know?2850.0616
1950 2850.2004So they had plenty of opportunity to come around, but it's like only when they needed something was when they would come around.2854.5649 
1951DCB_se2_ag4_f_052854.6814And then they got mad at me when my husband passed. Okay.2857.7112
1953 2857.9070We all here together.2859.1567 
1955 2859.7349/RD-NAME-3/'s in Ohio.2861.2037 
1957 2861.9777Every weekend for two months wasn't it? And you came home.2865.0821 
1959 2865.9214What was airfare round trip? Fifty dollars?2868.2109 
1960DCB_se2_ag2_f_012868.2330/Something just-/ it was seventy five.2869.8277
1961DCB_se2_ag4_f_052869.8790Something like that.2870.8442
1963 2871.4924So if I talked to her and she was upset, I'd tell her, okay, get you a flight home Friday night, whenever your last class this week,2877.8779 
1965 2878.2478after that, get you a flight, and come down here.2880.3507 
1967 2880.9604Then they got good to me.2882.4712 
1969 2883.1287I would get on the plane and go to her. <laugh>2886.8066 
1971DCB_se2_ag4_f_052888.4339I would go to her.2889.5996
1973 2890.5089And we just-2891.1384 
1975 2891.3389I mean,2891.8285 
1977 2891.9859me and /RD-NAME-3/ done some stuff- we went to Disney by ourself.2895.4877 
1979 2896.6768Had a, uh, five star room.2898.9185 
1981 2899.8650Had us a,2900.4759 
1983 2900.5971uh,2901.0774 
1985 2901.1893nice truck w- that we rented.2903.0638 
1987 2903.7399And then here come my son and his kids and their friends, and all them w-2907.5064 
1989 2907.9494The girls wanna s-2908.6814 
1991 2908.8866nah, y'all ain't messing up me and /RD-NAME-2/ party.2911.0071 
1993DCB_se2_ag4_f_052913.4131Me and /RD-NAME-2/ got dressed alike one night, and we was going out (laughing). <laugh>2916.7226
1995 2917.3381We was out eating seafood every night. We had a ball, didn't we?2920.4716 
1996DCB_int_012923.3848So tell me about-2924.5878
1998 2924.9375<clears throat>2925.4038 
2000 2926.5882Obviously DC has changed. You've been here for a long time.2929.1982 
2002DCB_int_012931.6230How have you seen it change?2933.0910
2004 2933.2736What changes have you seen?2934.4195 
2005DCB_se2_ag4_f_052935.7298Let me tell you, since Marion Barry been gone,2937.6929
2007 2939.4974out of office,2940.4429 
2009 2940.6014and passing,2941.5433 
2011 2942.3640you know,2942.8256 
2013 2943.3572when you2943.8421 
2015 2944.2991think about getting old when Marion Barry was dead.2947.2122 
2017 2947.3801Everything gonna be alright?2948.5645 
2019 2949.7022You know.2950.2198 
2021 2951.0311Marion Barry, if you was a teenager,2952.9185 
2023 2953.2868you applied for a job, you knew your kid had a job.2955.9960 
2025 2956.5229You don't know anymore.2957.5347 
2027 2958.0698He-2958.5594 
2029 2959.7391he made your dreams real.2961.3339 
2031 2962.1638You know, a lot of people wait2963.4508 
2033 2963.9917til they kids get to be about thirteen, fourteen. Be like, I'll be glad when they get a little job so they can2968.5276 
2035 2969.0871understand the value of a dollar.2970.8299 
2037 2972.6764Nowadays, what are these kids doing all summer?2975.3132 
2039 2976.0838All these kids around here I know is out there.2978.4246 
2041 2979.1100They ain't have no jobs.2980.4110 
2043 2981.3762You ain't see kids on the street. Everybody had a job.2984.2287 
2045 2984.8862They even made it where they even gave us2986.6768 
2047 2987.1944little,2987.5907 
2049 2987.7294um,2988.0791 
2051 2988.1817tokens to get back and forth to work2990.2194 
2053 2990.5925when Marion Barry was in there.2992.2105 
2055 2993.4928Old people get old. They ain't worrying about whether they w- had Social Security money,2998.0240 
2057 2998.3970or whether or not they had Medicaid or whether they had what they needed to survive3002.9468 
2059 3003.2499until they died.3004.3177 
2061 3004.7980Marion Barry made it happen.3006.2528 
2063 3008.3453That's why the man came back to life /the day of the month/. Everybody old in here gonna vote for him.3013.1096 
2065 3013.7904You didn't worry,3014.8163 
2067 3014.9795you know?3015.5717 
2069 3016.0846He took care of the young. He took care of the old. Ever- middle section. You- if you3020.1681 
2071 3020.9981did what you had to do.3022.1872 
2073 3023.3016It's changed a lot.3024.4382 
2075 3025.2029And3025.7438 
2077 3026.6344half of the-3027.1893 
2079 3027.3991the people that work down there in the damn district building in jail.3030.6340 
2081 3032.9655Uh, what's his name, Kwame?3034.8633 
2083 3035.0405He in jail.3035.8891 
2085 3036.2190He was my neighbor over there on Thirtieth Street. I used to love that man. When I worked in the district building,3040.9705 
2087 3041.4042he was about the best.3042.8858 
2089 3043.4081He was swindling money. Everybody's stealing money now from the government.3046.7980 
2091 3047.9124But at the end of the day, they don't realize how many people they're really hurting from stealing3052.5089 
2093 3053.2410from the government.3054.3647 
2095 3054.8112You stealing money from the schools. You stealing money from the retirem-3058.3597 
2097 3058.8120ment plans. You stealing money from people's Medicaid. You stealing money that people are gonna need.3063.9820 
2099 3065.1664They don't care.3066.2284 
2101 3067.5480I mean, they really a-3068.9841 
2103 3069.3758I had picked Marion Barry up out the street when I was working d- <laugh>3072.4895 
2105 3073.0630district building, I know at least four or five times.3075.6090 
2107 3076.2618I'd be like, Mayor, why do you keep doing this shit? You know that's what these whities wanna see.3081.2626 
2109 3082.9799/RD-NAME-2/, call my assistant.3084.4393 
2111 3084.9791Tell him to get down here right away. His assistant was /Gabe/.3087.7209 
2113 3088.6488I would call him,3089.5720 
2115 3090.0652and he'd be like, oh Lord,3091.5200 
2117 3091.6412and he would run down the steps to get Marion Barry off the street. I mean he'd be so drunk in the morning,3096.9791 
2119 3097.9070open the door and fall out the damn car.3099.9633 
2121 3104.0236I don't know.3104.7510 
2122DCB_int_013105.5017But that's your mayor for life?3106.6954
2123DCB_se2_ag4_f_053107.2270He shoulda been my mayor for life.3109.1609
2126 3109.9630<laugh>3110.1402 
2127DCB_se2_ag4_f_053110.3360Well, at that- that was after,3112.4110
2129 3113.0125um,3113.6233 
2131 3114.1165he went through that thing with the crack.3115.9303 
2133 3116.7603I'd'a been on crack too the way people treated him.3119.0824 
2135DCB_se2_ag4_f_053121.7438I mean,3122.3360
2137 3122.9049you know, he did all he could do3125.1197 
2139 3125.8134with what he had to3126.8112 
2141 3126.9231do it with.3127.9210 
2143 3128.8349But people were accusing him of things that he wasn't even doing, so if you gonna accuse me, I might as well do it.3134.9142 
2145DCB_se2_ag4_f_053137.3762Marion Barry was the mayor3138.9278
2147 3139.3708for life.3140.2381 
2149 3141.9214And then people like my father in Milwaukee,3143.8891 
2151 3144.2657but damn if he won again, well who was he running against?3147.6509 
2153 3148.6022[<laugh>]3152.5878 
2155DCB_se2_ag4_f_053153.3059You voted for him? M- Sure did.3155.1337
2157 3155.3202Mm-hm.3156.1429 
2159 3157.5853But people thought Marion Barry was gonna be around forever.3160.6535 
2161 3161.5767You know,3162.0663 
2163DCB_se2_ag4_f_053162.9464that he would be in office forever.3164.7557
2165 3165.1613Look at that pool he put up there in Parkland.3167.3436 
2167 3167.8145I mean3168.4067 
2169 3168.8952it's just stuff, so much that he did.3171.0541 
2171 3171.5530All the little,3172.3877 
2173 3172.9192um,3173.5021 
2175 3174.8998uh, how would I say that? All the little places for senior citizens to go.3179.3156 
2177 3179.6979Like that place up there where we lived?3181.6272 
2179 3182.2521Right on the corner, the-3183.4877 
2180DCB_se2_ag2_f_013183.4737/I don't [remember/.]3184.1265
2181DCB_se2_ag4_f_053183.8001[The Wellness] Center.3185.1151
2182 3186.0269They go up there and play Bingo, have busses take 'em to Atlantic City from there. I mean it was just a lot going on.3191.5720
2184 3192.0045You don't see any of that anymore.3193.4640 
2186 3196.3037So now I'm old, ain't got no Marion Barry.3198.9138 
2188 3199.0910Guess /RD-NAME-2/ have to take care of me now.3201.2219 
2189DCB_int_013203.6844[What about-]3204.2517
2192DCB_se2_ag4_f_053205.1796I ain't moving up on the third floor though. You gotta come down.3207.9260
2194DCB_se2_ag4_f_053209.4124I ain't coming [home.]3210.2797
2196DCB_int_013212.2707What about the, um,3213.5344
2198 3214.9799like the neighborhoods?3216.0710 
2200 3217.0957Have they changed a lot3217.9583 
2202 3218.1728that you can tell?3218.9515 
2203DCB_se2_ag4_f_053221.7213Only neighborhood I knew about was my own because I was in the house raising children.3225.8934
2207 3228.0092Let me tell you something. It's3228.9371 
2209 3229.0863kids out here with grownups now-3231.3851 
2211 3232.1872You don't remember me?3233.2270 
2213 3233.9812I grew up with your children.3235.3055 
2215 3238.3410I remember when the police came in and raided my house looking for my youngest son.3242.2287 
2217 3242.3873Thought well we m-3243.0960 
2219 3243.6183we know everybody around here. Why we never seen- I'm in the house raising children.3247.1843 
2221 3247.5806I go to work.3248.2334 
2223 3248.3873I come home. I'm raising my children.3250.1126 
2225 3250.4296I don't play outside.3251.4695 
2227 3252.1677You know?3252.6480 
2229 3252.8392And I didn't.3253.5632 
2231 3254.0189Everything I needed, believe me, boyfriend had it in the house.3257.5954 
2233 3258.4195But no need to hang outside. I go to the neighbor's house where everybody was drinking and stuff, but I wasn't a drinker.3263.3715 
2235 3264.0185So I'd just go over there and sit and watch them3266.1262 
2237 3266.2660acting- make a fool of themselves. Come on back in the house.3269.1197 
2239 3269.5068At least get to know who my kids3271.3428 
2241 3271.6039are hanging out with,3272.8023 
2243DCB_se2_ag4_f_053272.9841you know?3273.4038
2244 3274.1067I- I don't know people in the neighborhood.3276.1269
2246 3276.6387I-3276.7786 
2248 3276.9931you can't even get me to name nobody in this building.3279.0727 
2250DCB_se2_ag4_f_053281.5534Am I lying, /RD-NAME-2/?3282.6254
2252DCB_se2_ag4_f_053283.9303The little young guy that was on the elevator with us, if he see a box at my door he'll keep it and3288.9185
2254 3289.6599knock on my door and say, here's your box, or whate- I don't ev- I don't know- I don't know that lady right over there. I forgot her name.3295.5412 
2256DCB_int_013296.5831[Like to] keep to yourself.3297.8188
2257DCB_se2_ag4_f_053298.1032Yeah I had bad neighbors on Florida Avenue.3300.7226
2259 3301.2868If I wanted to cook out for my kids, I had to cook enough for the3304.2291 
2261 3304.5276six kids next door because they hanging over the banister all day.3307.9117 
2263 3308.4059You can't feed my kids, and I can't feed them. They're hungry. I know they are.3312.6340 
2265 3313.6319Because3314.3360 
2267 3315.0448their mother was3315.9167 
2269 3316.0380old.3316.7933 
2271 3318.1943They was on crack, and these are their kids.3321.0058 
2273 3321.3012The crackhead's kids. So I had to feed everybody.3324.9007 
2275 3325.5899So I said, why don't we get away from here? When I was on Thirtieth Street, I didn't deal with the neighbors.3329.7492 
2276DCB_se2_ag2_f_013329.7341But do you feel like it's better now? Like all the neighborhoods, like as far as how they look and stuff?3333.5577
2277DCB_se2_ag4_f_053335.9264They look alright.3336.8579
2279DCB_se2_ag4_f_053338.8147I guess.3339.7300
2283DCB_se2_ag4_f_053343.6552I wasn't a /roll through/ the neighborhood type of girl.3346.6348
2285DCB_se2_ag4_f_053347.5021I had so much goodies at- going on at home, I ain't need to run the street.3351.0914
2287DCB_se2_ag2_f_013352.8773Well we [talking about] even right now, Grandma. Like know how they fixing up like, even by Thirtieth Street, like how they about to add the Walmart right there. Like the /fix of it/ [/inaudible/.]3359.4695
2289DCB_se2_ag4_f_053358.9286Oh, yes. We got a (claps) Walmart in DC. Yes.3362.5622
2291DCB_se2_ag2_f_013363.1893[That's what we talking about.] Like3364.2385
2292 3364.5835the new [DC.]3365.3995
2293DCB_se2_ag4_f_053364.9565[And the] sad part- Okay. I can tell you a difference3367.7951
2294 3368.4992is how long3369.9680
2296 3370.1872H Street had so many closed down buildings3373.4640 
2298 3374.2381versus now, when you go down H Street, everything is a restaurant, a bar or3379.0677 
2300 3379.8837whatever.3380.6950 
2302 3380.8816You know what I'm saying?3381.9447 
2304 3382.3644Cause when I was,3383.3622 
2306 3383.6606um,3384.2843 
2308 3385.5946last twenty years, everything down there was3388.0146 
2310 3388.8120closed down.3389.5720 
2312 3389.8845I mean still burnt up.3391.3801 
2314 3392.0982People didn't have money to, um,3394.1265 
2316 3394.4763rehabilitate their buildings3396.3228 
2318 3396.8532back to where it was before3398.4059 
2320 3398.8116these idiots decided to tear up their neighborhood cause King died.3402.1782 
2322 3404.3966We even got a trolley car going now- <laugh>3407.3063 
2324 3407.8378Then white people say, okay, the black folks found cheap houses in Maryland.3411.5344 
2326 3412.0473We gonna move in here and change things, and they did.3414.5175 
2328 3414.9791They really did.3416.0030 
2330 3416.6810Because3417.5625 
2332 3418.8493<sigh>3419.4322 
2334 3419.7574a lot of those3420.5641 
2336 3420.7273places on H Street- see,3422.4153 
2338 3423.1147where I work, we do inspections. Say like, if you were,3425.5860 
2340 3426.2144um, renovating a house,3427.7794 
2342 3428.2194in phases, it has to be inspected.3430.4856 
2346 3433.1823that's my job.3434.2361 
2348 3434.8621Put the program together,3436.1061 
2350 3436.1677tell them this is what's going on. Y'all need to go over there and inspect.3439.2767 
2352 3439.7384And s- and c-3440.4844 
2354 3440.7362you know, talk to the owners and the3442.5315 
2356 3442.9884contractors and make sure3444.5726 
2358 3444.9643that they're getting their work done on time.3447.0673 
2360 3447.7434You don't call me and tell me, okay, I'm'a get my,3450.0176 
2362 3450.5680um,3451.0669 
2364 3451.3933first inspections now and then six months later, we gonna f- get the fin- no.3455.2589 
2366 3456.1297You need to get this done.3457.4353 
2368 3458.1907I don't have time to dwell with you so.3459.9253 
2370 3460.4335They like to use our company because they say it's a w-3463.4726 
2372 3463.6684crazy woman over there who will come over there and shut you down3466.7646 
2374 3467.4536cause you taking too long.3468.8198 
2376 3469.8176It don't take all day to do nothing.3471.5096 
2378 3473.1330If y'all gonna be /on it/, and we gonna do the inspections,3475.7337 
2380 3476.1207you can't think that3477.0720 
2382 3477.3937we don't have nothing to do but sit here and wait for you.3479.4955 
2384 3480.1017You know.3480.5680 
2386 3481.5705Next week, if I get me a new client, then that mean I'm- I'm on you to finish so I can work with my new people. I don't wanna keep working with you.3488.3772 
2388 3490.2517I wanna keep it moving.3491.4769 
2389DCB_int_013493.0809So [H Street.] Cause you're from Trinidad so that's closer to H Street. What about U Street?3496.5221
2390DCB_se2_ag4_f_053493.2488[That's /all/.]3493.8456
2391 3498.2136We got- we have some prop- um, actually /RD-ADDRESS-3/ U Street is one of our properties.3502.6620
2393 3502.7786Um,3503.1982 
2395 3503.9805yeah.3504.6100 
2397 3505.5146/RD-ADDRESS-7/3506.9974 
2398DCB_int_013508.0931That area has changed.3509.3568
2399DCB_se2_ag4_f_053509.3568It's beautiful up there.3510.7621
2400 3512.3958Um,3512.9227
2402 3513.1699I never thought-3513.8413 
2404 3514.0791That's another neighborhood they tore up really bad. I mean they went on up Georgia Avenue.3518.2373 
2406 3518.8129Where none living there but black people.3520.4988 
2408 3521.1283Go up Wisconsin Avenue and hit those good stores, you know.3524.5824 
2410 3525.7854All y'all did was tore up at the dry cleaners and the little3528.6053 
2412 3529.1369stores where everybody bought their tennis shoes and stuff.3531.7761 
2414 3532.3123And that3532.9278 
2416 3533.3102neighb-3533.7427 
2418 3533.8639uh, H Street and U Street suffered f-3536.5171 
2420 3536.7409thirty, forty years.3538.1355 
2422 3539.7240We coulda been doing all of that stuff.3541.6416 
2424 3541.9296I feel good in the summer, riding down H Street, parking my car and run in,3545.4594 
2426 3545.9525and have me a little drink3547.1742 
2428 3549.2352with them white people.3550.2750 
2430 3551.7846Yeah.3552.1716 
2431DCB_int_013552.3654[Mm-hm, cause that's who's] out there.3553.7337
2432DCB_se2_ag4_f_053552.4001[/A little/ mix it up.]3553.2581
2433 3554.0508That's who's out there.3555.1575
2434DCB_int_013555.2631So let me ask you a couple different questions, then we'll finish up cause I know you got to go get your nails done.3559.5285
2435DCB_se2_ag4_f_053559.6684Yes I [do girl.]3561.1271
2436DCB_int_013560.1394[Yes ma'am.]3561.1233
2437 3561.6781Um,3562.2190
2439 3563.8033tell me about go go music. I know /RD-NAME-2/ was talking about it, but3566.5777 
2441 3566.9274tell me about your experience with go go music.3569.5573 
2444 3571.0436let me tell you something, when Chuck Brown died people was calling me, are you okay?3574.4708 
2446 3575.0665I used to travel with Chuck.3576.2929 
2448 3577.0110I used to date the congo player, Lino Druitt.3579.5196 
2450 3580.1211He was the congo player with the- (laughing)3582.0038 
2452 3582.7871with (laughing) um, The Soul Searchers.3585.1858 
2454 3586.4708It was so bad that when my girlfriend that used to hang with me when we'd go see Chuck-3590.2979 
2456 3591.0673We had Chuck over at her funeral. They didn't even acknowledge she was dead. They was over there with Chuck.3596.0881 
2458 3598.2377If they went down- whenever they went to southern Maryland, northern Maryland, New York, New Jersey, wherever,3603.7900 
2460 3604.2470we was there.3605.3195 
2462 3607.8223Loved some Chuck Brown. Didn't even3609.6455 
2464 3609.7667care about nobody else.3611.1563 
2466 3611.4302Chuck Brown was it. He was DC,3613.4446 
2468 3614.1674um, guy.3615.1326 
2470 3615.3098Everybody loved Chuck Brown.3617.2729 
2472 3618.8431And, um,3619.4539 
2474 3619.8503I used to work in Sabin's Record Store, where my cousin worked, on [Pennsylvania Avenue,]3624.4094 
2476DCB_se2_ag4_f_053625.2441over there by your mother work.3626.4238
2478 3627.4543Oh.3627.9299 
2480 3629.4069What's that sandwich, Subway?3630.9876 
2482 3631.2488Used to be Sabin's Record Store,3633.1745 
2484 3633.7947and I worked in there, you know how3635.5095 
2486 3635.9198singing groups and everybody come to the record store to promote their music and stuff,3639.8973 
2488 3640.4289and The Soul Searchers came in there that day. And Lino3643.5285 
2490 3643.9575kept on saying, give me your phone number. My cousin /RD-NAME-2/ gave him-3647.2216 
2492 3647.3883gave him my phone number.3648.4234 
2494 3648.7312I dated him like three years. Everywhere The Soul Searchers went3651.4730 
2496 3651.9159I went too.3652.7693 
2497DCB_se2_ag2_f_013654.4328And then you went to school with Sugar Bear.3655.8223
2498DCB_se2_ag4_f_053656.0415Went to school with Sugar Bear,3657.6642
2500 3658.1165an-3658.4802 
2502 3658.6480I ain't gonna talk about him, okay.3660.3209 
2503DCB_int_013660.4561What group is he from?3661.3980
2507DCB_int_013664.9593So do you have, besides Chuck, do you have another group that you like?3667.6006
2508DCB_se2_ag4_f_053669.9906Back there in the day, I liked everything. I just like music.3673.0343
2510 3674.0601I love music.3674.8808 
2512 3675.2585Long as it's not that bluegrass and that country western,3677.7391 
2514DCB_se2_ag4_f_053678.2323[I'm] there.3678.9177
2516DCB_se2_ag4_f_053679.9482[I] love music.3681.1279
2518 3681.2398And go go is unique to DC. What made it so unique?3684.3022
2519DCB_se2_ag4_f_053685.2348Because we had so many go go bands in DC.3687.9579
2521 3688.7553That was a-3689.3148 
2523 3689.4442um, back in my daughter's days, now, that was the only thing going on.3693.7481 
2525 3694.3916They go up to the Black Hole and all these other places that she went.3698.2933 
2527 3698.9647Um-3699.6875 
2528DCB_se2_ag2_f_013700.0045Until Daddy wanted to shut 'em down.3701.6226
2529DCB_se2_ag4_f_053701.6261Yeah, and my husband, he was a f-3703.3094
2531 3703.3887uh, fire inspector. He wanted to shut down everywhere my kids liked to hang out at the go go.3708.1530 
2533 3709.3747It was just-3710.2882 
2535 3710.7456I don't know.3711.2118 
2537 3711.5289And then when you- you're young, and you have-3713.6121 
2539 3714.3255you're raising kids, and you listen to what they listen to,3717.8227 
2541 3719.0584you wanna know what you're kids listening to.3720.7957 
2543 3721.5379And I liked all their music.3722.9367 
2545 3723.3331Cause one of my sons liked go go. The other one liked the oldies but goodies.3726.6473 
2547DCB_se2_ag4_f_053727.8922And they rooms right there together.3729.5196
2550 3732.6519[<laugh>]3733.3140
2551DCB_se2_ag4_f_053733.0203[So] you know, and we h- I-3734.9740
2552 3735.0626I liked the oldies but goodies, but then I started listening to his, I liked his too.3738.7732
2554 3739.1415And, you know, y'all know I still like y'all music.3741.4683 
2555DCB_int_013742.7646What's your favorite song?3743.6651
2557DCB_int_013745.5763From- from late3746.3550
2558 3746.4926group,3746.7259
2560 3746.8901from they generation.3747.8227 
2561DCB_se2_ag4_f_053748.4382From their [generation?]3749.8825
2562DCB_int_013749.1551[Yes, ma'am.]3749.8266
2563 3750.0271Mm-hm. Not the oldies [but the goldies.]3751.3980
2564DCB_se2_ag4_f_053750.8431[Oh what's that] one about cooking in the kitchen?3753.3284
2565DCB_se2_ag2_f_013754.5128Yeah, the XIB In the Kitchen one.3756.3535
2566DCB_se2_ag4_f_053756.3348Girl, we did a video on me on that one didn't we?3760.2750
2569 3762.8757[But she- But sometime she] be more hip than we are. Like she come home, like,3766.5128 
2571DCB_se2_ag2_f_013767.0397Y'all heard that Lil Wayne song?3768.4141
2573 3768.5773We'll be like, [What? This was] when Lollipop first came out. We were like, what Grandma?3772.0745 
2575DCB_se2_ag2_f_013772.2750Oh you gotta listen to this. You gotta listen [to this.]3774.1856
2578DCB_se2_ag4_f_053778.0791I used to listen to a Chicago station. That music was there [before it got here.]3782.7642
2579DCB_se1_ag1_m_033781.7104[/Oh yeah/.]3782.7549
2580DCB_se2_ag4_f_053784.3170And my God,3785.2680
2582 3785.6261me and- we would turn that music on in the office. It would be funny.3789.1093 
2584 3790.3123You okay?3790.8858 
2585DCB_se2_ag2_f_013791.7007And what song was it that came out that you told me about?3793.7290
2587 3794.9041From Chicago.3795.6708 
2589 3796.1538Jeremiah.3796.8019 
2590DCB_se2_ag4_f_053800.0834Oh I [forgot the name.]3801.1326
2593DCB_se2_ag2_f_013802.2190What was it called? Birthday what?3803.4034
2594DCB_se2_ag4_f_053805.8270Dang /RD-NAME-2/, that was a long [time ago.]3807.9533
2595DCB_se2_ag2_f_013807.2725[/You remember it/], /unintelligible/.3808.8532
2596 3809.6634/RD-NAME-2/, you know that song, Birthday Sex?3811.9249
2598DCB_int_013816.0784I like that song.3816.7842
2599DCB_se2_ag4_f_053816.9585Me too.3817.5006
2601DCB_se2_ag4_f_053818.5136Especially on my birthday.3819.6630
2602DCB_se2_ag2_f_013819.7423But she like her oldies but [goodies], but she'll- don't laugh.3822.2118
2604DCB_se2_ag2_f_013822.5184Don't, Minnie. [<laugh>]3823.7325
2606DCB_se2_ag2_f_013825.1046[But she'll listen] to our music. She like her oldies and good- but goodies, but she'll listen to our music every once [in awhile.]3829.3937
2608DCB_se2_ag4_f_053828.7032[I'll listen to anything] long as it ain't that hard3830.7829
2609 3831.0113stuff. Like [n- I can handle.]3832.4895
2610DCB_int_013831.6362[You don't like /it/-]3832.3170
2611 3833.2775So let me ask you- what about mumbo sauce? Do you eat mumbo sauce?3835.7290
2612DCB_se2_ag4_f_053836.1534Not really.3836.9134
2613DCB_int_013838.1631Have you-3838.4662
2614DCB_se2_ag4_f_053838.4662I'll eat it.3839.1656
2616DCB_se2_ag4_f_053839.6028[I don't] have anything against it it.3841.0296
2617 3841.3560Um,3841.9482
2619 3842.5637I like hot sauce.3843.6082 
2620DCB_int_013843.8553You like- [<laugh>]3846.2081
2623 3848.3539I eat mumbo sauce.3849.5056
2624DCB_int_013849.6315If you had to describe it, how would you describe it?3851.6035
2626DCB_int_013855.5989No other words?3856.5548
2627DCB_se2_ag4_f_053856.9045I mean it's kind of sweet, kind of3858.7358
2629 3858.8991tart,3859.2484 
2631 3859.3653kind of3859.9016 
2633 3860.8108different.3861.4636 
2634DCB_int_013863.4069Can you tell me what's in it?3864.3069
2635DCB_se2_ag4_f_053865.2488Hell no.3865.9855
2636DCB_int_013866.0088<laugh> <clap>3867.2725
2638 3867.4497[<laugh>]3869.5899 
2642 3869.3195[I would] think ketchup [and]3871.0529 
2645 3872.4658I don't know.3873.2585
2648DCB_se2_ag4_f_053875.1784[Can I get back] to you on that [one?]3876.5400
2650DCB_int_013876.5120[Yes ma'am.]3877.1042
2651 3877.2394[You-]3877.5192
2652 3877.7057yup, [you can get back to me.]3878.9367
2655DCB_int_013879.0813[What do you-] <clap>3879.8926
2657DCB_int_013880.5641<clears throat>3880.9464
2659DCB_int_013884.2140<clears throat> So I forgot to ask Terrell this, but,3886.3976
2661 3887.3883people come from all over the world to3889.6311 
2663 3889.9529see the monuments, go to the White House, all that. Have you been a tourist in your own back yard?3894.5353 
2665DCB_int_013896.1021[Do you go to] the monuments? Do you-3897.8135
2666 3898.5315museums?3899.4500
2667DCB_se2_ag4_f_053900.4887I used to go3901.6311
2669 3903.3377but my kids-3904.5688 
2671 3905.5561The school always took 'em before I got to take 'em.3908.0228 
2673 3908.9974When it came to my kids, we did more going out of town stuff.3912.7032 
2675 3913.5519You know, Myrtle Beach and,3915.2911 
2677 3916.2750um,3916.7553 
2679 3917.4273down to my home or3919.3496 
2681 3920.3521ride up to New York.3922.1229 
2683 3923.4798Where was that I took my kids that we was laughing about the other night?3926.6132 
2685 3927.5960O-3927.9270 
2687 3928.0669Uh, Ocean City, Atlantic City, all the beaches.3931.1118 
2689 3931.7693We used to,3932.2018 
2691 3932.3370uh, almost every summer go down to, um,3935.0601 
2693 3935.3306I forgot that beach down there.3936.8134 
2695 3937.4195But we used to go down there at least3938.5899 
2697 3939.3115three weekends out of the month.3940.9435 
2699 3941.5311You know, just let the kids run.3943.2237 
2701 3944.3381We were always doing something,3945.8244 
2703 3946.1742going somewhere.3947.0135 
2704DCB_int_013947.7875What's your favorite book3948.7862
2706 3949.0325or movie3949.5967 
2708 3949.7086or TV show?3950.6086 
2711 3954.3797<sigh>3955.2050 
2713 3956.5748Between The Real and Wendy Williams.3958.8876 
2715 3961.1864Now I watch them every day, faithfully.3963.5923 
2717 3964.9296I like The Real and Wendy Williams because it keeps me up on whatever young folks are doing out there in California or3970.5239 
2719 3971.3958what3971.7782 
2721 3972.3564rich people do that I am not doing.3974.4967 
2723 3975.4374I just wanna know what they doing,3976.6964 
2725 3977.4192cause I can't do it.3978.2958 
2730 3981.4841[<laugh>]3982.4773 
2731DCB_se2_ag4_f_053982.4446Kim Kardashian and3983.9227
2732 3984.1186Caitlyn and all them.3985.4382
2733DCB_se2_ag2_f_013985.9500But Grandma.3987.1300
2736 3988.4120[Grandma, you-]3989.0508
2737DCB_se2_ag4_f_053988.4213[I think I-] I think I'm gonna be a man next month.3990.7807
2739DCB_int_013992.4442[You're gonna] be a man next month.3993.8151
2740DCB_se2_ag4_f_053993.9503Caitlyn can be a woman.3995.2233
2741DCB_int_013996.0207So you gonna change it up?3996.9393
2744DCB_se2_ag4_f_053999.2649[I'm just-]3999.7545
2745DCB_int_013999.4701[What's-] what's gonna be your new [name?]4000.9715
2746DCB_se2_ag4_f_054000.5006[I'm just] kidding. I'm just kidding (laughing). [I'm just kidding.]4004.4221
2749DCB_int_014005.1763[I was] going with you. I was gonna support you in it.4007.2187
2750DCB_se2_ag4_f_054007.1907But if you got enough money to turn yourself from a man to a woman,4011.0318
2751 4011.9876something went wrong somewhere.4013.6383
2753DCB_se2_ag4_f_054016.0723With his money, he could have been anything but a woman.4018.4959
2755 4020.6315Okay, I'm done.4021.5781 
2759 4023.4281Grandma (laughing).4024.6405 
2760DCB_se2_ag4_f_054025.6663All that money a man has,4027.1584
2762 4027.9838all he could wanna be is a woman?4029.5726 
2766 4034.2076I like these boots.4035.3395 
2768DCB_int_014035.7358[Thank you.]4036.3887
2769DCB_se2_ag4_f_054037.0881Mm-hm. Mm. You got it going on.4038.6828
2771DCB_int_014040.6401I can't keep up with /RD-NAME-3/ though.4042.1975
2772DCB_se2_ag4_f_054042.7057No you can't.4043.4238
2774DCB_se2_ag4_f_054043.7689[Me] either.4044.5709
2777 4046.1645I'm tryna get on her level.4047.3442 
2778DCB_se2_ag4_f_054048.6778That's my baby.4049.6476
2779DCB_int_014049.7782I know but you adopted me so I might be able to get on her level.4052.3335
2780DCB_se2_ag4_f_054052.3370Yeah, you adopted now,4053.6659
2782 4053.7732but see l-4054.3001 
2784 4054.5052/RD-NAME-2/ thinks that4055.8575 
2786 4056.3238I want her out my house because4058.3008 
2788 4058.4862I- it's something I may wanna do here.4060.7011 
2790 4061.7316It feel good to know I can lay down and die (snaps),4063.9779 
2792 4064.2076and she can take care of herself.4065.8679 
2794 4066.6498You know what I'm saying?4067.3632 
2796DCB_se2_ag4_f_054067.9985Ain't nobody gonna do for her like I did it-4069.7040
2798 4069.9278Like I do, did, or will.4071.3768 
2800 4072.4166You know,4072.9342 
2802 4073.3166all I want her to do is prove to me you got4075.7926 
2804 4075.9698this.4076.4687 
2806 4077.6053You don't need no nigga.4078.7104 
2808 4079.6150You don't need nothing but you.4081.0279 
2810 4081.6107And the money I spent to send you to college and do it f- for myself,4085.3585 
2812 4086.0673to do for you. That's all I want her to do.4088.8324 
2814 4089.8617Be able to take care of yourself.4091.2793 
2816 4092.8833And4093.0418 
2818 4094.0490it came the hard love-4095.4887 
2820 4095.8384I didn't4096.5658 
2822 4096.8689approach her like I did her mother.4098.6921 
2824 4099.1118I never would,4099.9884 
2826 4100.5608but4101.3658 
2828 4101.9037this my last baby. I got to worry about her and /RD-NAME-2/.4104.7341 
2830 4105.2983All I wanted to do-4106.5853 
2832 4107.1297And I didn't want her to live where she living. I ain't like it.4109.5870 
2834 4109.8108It's too little.4110.6129 
2836 4111.3403/RD-NAME-2/ got seven thousand outfits in there,4113.7871 
2838 4115.1067and she got a closet this big.4116.6875 
2840 4117.7832/RD-NAME-2/ need a closet this-4119.6146 
2842 4120.6451size of this room,4122.0440 
2844 4122.5802and then the shoes can go back there.4124.5433 
2846 4126.0902You know what I'm saying?4127.0135 
2848 4128.2025And I just wanna know that she can take-4130.1971 
2850 4130.5748Because4130.9105 
2852 4131.3955once /RD-NAME-2/ taking care of- And4132.8876 
2854 4133.1114I wasn't gonna say this, but I'm'a tell you this, too.4135.1724 
2856 4136.0246If anything was to happen to me,4138.0529 
2858 4138.8783I ain't got to worry about /RD-NAME-2/ because she gonna take care of /RD-NAME-2/4141.6888 
2860 4142.5841if /RD-NAME-2/ falls short, aren't you?4144.2814 
2862 4146.2025So,4146.7994 
2864 4147.3811I never w-4148.0152 
2866 4148.8965wanted to tell you why I do what I do,4151.1394 
2868 4151.8108but4152.0626 
2870 4152.1932I just wanted you to4153.3578 
2872 4153.4604go out here4154.3370 
2874 4155.0504and learn that you can take care of yourself.4157.4064 
2876 4157.6057And you know how to do that,4158.9579 
2878 4160.1178but I needed to see it.4161.3115 
2880 4163.0228And to know that you and /RD-NAME-2/-4164.5662 
2882 4164.8787If I drop dead today or tomorrow, you know my health is not that good-4168.1415 
2884 4168.6125As long as you're doing well, he's okay.4170.6035 
2886 4173.5540And who been with you all weekend?4175.0228 
2888DCB_se2_ag4_f_054176.9474See what I'm saying?4177.9779
2890 4178.6727You know,4179.0597 
2892 4179.5074people don't think about stuff like that, but I do.4182.3284 
2894 4184.3510If something happened to me,4185.5820 
2896 4186.0063I ain't got to worry about /RD-NAME-2/. She thirty nine.4188.2865 
2898 4189.3158You're oldest uncle forty five. The next one forty four. They gonna be alright.4193.2000 
2900 4193.9741You are my4195.0034 
2902 4195.0967priority now4196.1132 
2904 4197.1437cause I know if you alright, he alright.4198.6871 
2906DCB_se2_ag4_f_054201.4790And you been doing good, but I just want you to get your shit out my house.4204.4400
2907DCB_se2_ag2_f_014205.9927/RD-NAME-2/. [<laugh>]4208.5888
2909 4209.1856I got it on tape.4209.9597
2910DCB_se2_ag4_f_054210.1229You understand what I'm saying though?4212.0440
2912 4213.3345This girl,4214.2437 
2914 4216.3700she w-4216.8316 
2916 4217.0974I-4217.3212 
2918 4217.4798mm,4217.7642 
2920 4217.9787<sigh>4218.5336 
2922 4219.7075I don't love her more than my daughter.4222.0809 
2924 4222.3094I love her different.4223.1534 
2927DCB_se2_ag4_f_054224.6781You know what I'm saying?4225.4883
2928DCB_int_014225.5023I've said that. No, that's true.4226.8313
2930 4227.8757in the same token,4229.1347
2932 4229.7129she is really the last one I have to worry about.4232.2810 
2934 4233.4654Cause long as she4234.6171 
2936 4235.0928got things under control, that one right there okay.4238.0852 
2938 4238.5422After that, I don't care.4239.6939 
2940 4241.8855What else do I have to care-4243.1246 
2942 4243.2412care about?4243.8194 
2944 4245.1530You understand what I'm saying?4246.3747 
2946DCB_se2_ag4_f_054247.8295Now if I can get her into-4249.2563
2948 4249.7122stop being afraid to drive and start working on buying [herself a] [car.]4253.4518 
2951 4253.2653[Mm-hm.] Yes ma'am.4254.4403 
2952 4254.6921Yes, [I've told her that.]4256.0572
2953DCB_se2_ag2_f_014255.0547[Really /RD-NAME-2/.]4255.9138
2957 4258.3514I've-4258.6311 
2959 4258.8410I have tried to t-4259.6756 
2961 4260.1746Have I not?4260.7155 
2963DCB_int_014261.1386[I have tried] to really tell her that4262.8919
2964 4263.2229you can't be afraid. That's what he talked about, that they have a fear, but a fear- not a4267.2610
2966 4267.4324scary fear, but have a-4269.0178 
2968 4269.4747a reverent fear for the Lord, but not to [drive.]4272.0912 
2970DCB_int_014273.2738Life is gonna happen.4274.1831
2971DCB_se2_ag4_f_054274.4536That's right, and if it ain't your time to die, you ain't going nowhere.4277.2746
2972DCB_se2_ag2_f_014278.2352Remember I told you not in /unintelligible/- I'm not gonna say it's hard, but4281.4765
2974 4281.8338I grew up in a time when I- when I really wanted to drive, my grandfather wouldn't let me.4285.3904 
2976 4286.2857He was the type like-4287.4421 
2977DCB_se2_ag4_f_054287.7778[I'll take you. <laugh>]4288.9855
2978DCB_se2_ag2_f_014287.7872[I'll take you everywhere you go.] You're gonna have [a chauffeur for the rest of your life.]4291.0652
2980DCB_se2_ag2_f_014291.5210And I will make sure that you have a driver4293.8198
2982 4294.0110to take you everywhere you wanna go.4295.3073 
2983DCB_int_014295.3399And that's why Grandma said you need to be independent.4297.4837
2984DCB_se2_ag2_f_014297.3485[Yeah, now but-]4298.8639
2985DCB_se2_ag4_f_054297.4930[That's right.]4298.2917
2987 4298.5142[Mm-hm.]4298.9618 
2988DCB_int_014298.9292And so4299.2882
2989 4299.3908driving is part of that independence.4301.2373
2990DCB_se2_ag2_f_014301.2373But now that I've been in those three car accidents, I'm never gonna be /inaudible/.4303.5490
2991DCB_se2_ag4_f_054305.2696That's behind you.4306.5099
2993 4306.8363Do you know you coulda died in any one of those three car accidents? W-4310.3137 
2995 4310.5375but look wh-4311.0877 
2997 4311.2369look where you are.4312.1602 
2999 4313.7409[God got] too much stuff for you to do. He ain't gonna take you nowhere no time soon. [Trust] me.4318.3374 
3002DCB_se2_ag4_f_054320.3972Cause you are an anointed4321.7868
3004 4321.9546baby.4322.5422 
3006 4322.7380Really.4323.3162 
3008 4325.5357And you know it.4326.2958 
3010 4327.1433So we ain't even gonna go there today, right?4329.5587 
3012DCB_se2_ag4_f_054330.5052But you know what I was- I just said to you right?4332.4812
3014 4333.3578/Skur/.4334.0945 
3017DCB_int_014336.0856[And I] got it on recorder, so if we need- if you need me to play it again for her- [it's right. Mm-hm.]4340.3455
3019 4343.8202[You got- I w- You got other] things to be scared of than driving.4347.4155
3020DCB_se2_ag2_f_014344.1093[/You make me feel special/.]4345.3951
3023DCB_int_014353.7405Oh Grandma [do you-]4354.4446
3024DCB_se2_ag4_f_054354.2721[I w-]4354.5332
3025 4354.6498I wish that's all I had to be scared of. You-4356.7341
3028DCB_int_014361.2653I drive.4361.8668
3029DCB_se2_ag4_f_054362.5558I drive.4363.5146
3031DCB_int_014366.0809I've been- I was trying to tell her-4367.6243
3033 4367.8575you can tell- ask her.4369.0652 
3035 4369.3018One of the jobs that she really wanted to apply for,4371.9270 
3037 4372.2721she couldn't apply for it because she doesn't drive.4374.9066 
3039 4378.8316One day it's gonna hit you that /everybody/ should drive cause4381.6236
3041 4381.7401I can drive a stick shift.4383.2742 
3043 4383.8618I can drive a eighteen wheeler if I have to.4385.7549 
3045 4386.7108You never put yourself in predicament to be,4389.1530 
3047 4389.9084um, what's the word I wanna use?4391.8715 
3049 4392.7050Left behind4393.8940 
3051 4395.1064or whatever. Have your own stuff.4397.6476 
3053 4397.8062You know, have your own car,4399.0745 
3055 4399.9733learn how to drive /and leave the/ car parked outside!4402.3607 
3057 4403.6197Just leave it sitting. You'll get tired of catching the bus. You'll drive it.4406.8499 
3059 4407.4934Just go buy you a car.4408.7134 
3061DCB_se2_ag4_f_054411.7821You'll get tired of w- depending on black folks to do stuff for you.4415.3936
3063 4418.5853Trust me.4419.1716 
3065 4419.9690You need to start thinking about that for real. That's serious stuff.4423.3303 
3067 4423.5443Driving is very important.4425.6193 
3069 4428.8553You know?4429.2750