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1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.4877 | So, | 0.8560 |
2 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1.2559 | <clears throat> | 2.4496 |
3 | DCB_int_01 | 3.0278 | Miss /RD-NAME-2/, | 3.7645 |
5 | | 4.6272 | if could you tell me | 5.4711 |
7 | | 6.1519 | <clears throat> | 6.4923 |
9 | | 8.4123 | your birthday? | 9.0791 |
10 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 9.8811 | March twelfth, nineteen fifty four. | 11.9561 |
11 | DCB_int_01 | 14.7140 | Pisces. | 15.6106 |
12 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 15.6060 | Mm-hm. | 16.5339 |
13 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 16.9909 | <laugh> | 17.6204 |
14 | DCB_int_01 | 18.4550 | Where were you born? | 19.1078 |
15 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 19.8481 | Indianapolis, Indiana. Mm. | 21.5780 |
16 | DCB_int_01 | 26.0766 | And | 26.9299 |
18 | | 27.8065 | what neighborhood do you- | 28.8183 |
20 | | 29.2147 | do you claim as your neighborhood or the /leighborhood/ you live in? | 31.8527 |
21 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 33.9091 | Um, | 34.2774 |
23 | | 34.5619 | Trinidad. | 35.2473 |
25 | | 36.0400 | <clears throat> | 36.9202 |
27 | | 40.4919 | [North-] | 40.9396 |
28 | DCB_int_01 | 40.4919 | [/And how/-] | 40.8277 |
29 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 41.0981 | That- | 41.2520 |
31 | | 41.3779 | In Northeast Washington. | 42.8327 |
32 | DCB_int_01 | 45.9063 | And how long have you been in DC? | 47.4064 |
33 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 48.6602 | Since nineteen sixty six. | 50.4869 |
34 | DCB_int_01 | 53.3452 | Um, and besides Indianapolis | 55.1871 |
36 | | 55.3445 | and | 55.9273 |
38 | | 56.0952 | Trinidad neighborhood, what other neighborhoods or other places have you lived? | 59.3511 |
39 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 59.6495 | Um, Parkland. | 60.5582 |
41 | | 62.4000 | Southeast DC. | 63.7051 |
43 | | 67.2390 | And Hillcrest. | 68.1459 |
45 | | 71.2427 | S- | 71.4199 |
47 | | 71.8488 | Southeast DC. | 73.7082 |
49 | | 74.6827 | That was it. | 75.3076 |
50 | DCB_int_01 | 77.3313 | What about [school?] | 78.0960 |
51 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 77.5551 | [<clears throat>] | 77.8955 |
52 | | 79.2932 | Um, | 79.8807 |
54 | | 81.0464 | which one? | 81.7226 |
56 | | 82.8370 | Elementary was /RD-SCHOOL-4/. | 84.9306 |
58 | | 90.8502 | Junior High was /RD-SCHOOL-4/. | 92.5242 |
60 | | 97.4797 | High School was /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 99.8858 |
61 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 100.3054 | I knew you was gonna be [/inaudible/.] | 102.4037 |
62 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 101.7602 | [Yes.] | 102.7534 |
63 | DCB_int_01 | 110.8832 | And what about- | 112.5945 |
65 | | 112.8510 | what do you- what do you- what is your occupation? | 114.6449 |
66 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 116.1885 | <ts> | 116.2957 |
68 | | 116.3657 | I'm a, um, program coordinator | 118.6971 |
70 | | 119.2240 | <clears throat> | 119.5597 |
72 | | 120.2872 | for a third party inspection company. | 122.8226 |
73 | DCB_int_01 | 129.9417 | And where were your parents born? | 131.1914 |
74 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 133.3958 | Um, both of 'em were born in Roanoke, Virginia. R-O- | 136.4173 |
76 | | 136.5665 | A- | 136.9722 |
78 | | 137.0841 | N- | 137.4292 |
80 | | 137.5458 | O-K- | 138.2452 |
82 | | 138.4224 | E. Virginia. | 139.7082 |
83 | DCB_int_01 | 140.8786 | And what did your parents do? | 142.0023 |
84 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 143.3219 | Um, | 143.7696 |
86 | | 143.9468 | my dad was, um, | 145.9880 |
88 | | 147.7878 | He coached, um, | 149.0888 |
90 | | 149.2193 | basketball in high school | 151.1171 |
92 | | 151.2559 | in, uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/- | 152.3237 |
94 | | 152.7527 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/ High School in Roanoke. | 155.4758 |
96 | | 156.9353 | And my mother, | 159.5547 |
98 | | 162.2872 | she used to work at a hotel. I don't remember what she did. I don't know if she was cleaning up or something. [She wasn't] doing much. | 168.2125 |
99 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 167.0701 | [<laugh>] | 167.4385 |
100 | | 168.2918 | <laugh> | 169.2305 |
101 | DCB_int_01 | 169.3963 | Okay. | 169.8176 |
103 | | 171.6806 | So | 172.3754 |
104 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 175.0181 | Mm. | 175.4611 |
106 | | 175.9087 | <clears throat> | 176.4449 |
107 | DCB_int_01 | 176.4636 | you moved here in nineteen sixty six. So you were | 179.4432 |
109 | | 179.8675 | what? | 180.1146 |
111 | | 180.5203 | Twelve | 181.0321 |
113 | | 181.2466 | [ish?] | 181.7875 |
114 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 181.3165 | [Mm-hm.] | 181.8760 |
115 | DCB_int_01 | 182.9345 | So | 183.4428 |
117 | | 184.0956 | when you first moved here- tell me about | 185.7556 |
119 | | 185.9141 | moving here and how- and what- | 187.2932 |
121 | | 187.4704 | what you remember about being like, when you | 189.2842 |
123 | | 189.4859 | first got to DC. | 190.5561 |
124 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 191.3138 | It was scary. | 192.3111 |
125 | DCB_int_01 | 192.9032 | Why? | 193.1107 |
126 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 194.0177 | Because I came from Virginia where people spoke to everybody. Everybody knew everybody. I didn't know nobody and nobody spoke | 200.9607 |
128 | | 201.2732 | when I got here. | 202.1918 |
130 | | 203.1418 | Um, | 204.0418 |
132 | | 207.3384 | The- the girls my age, | 209.4729 |
134 | | 209.6128 | um, didn't like me because I was light skinned. | 212.6157 |
136 | | 213.5156 | Um, | 214.2011 |
138 | | 214.6569 | it was crazy. | 215.7387 |
140 | | 217.7391 | It was real crazy. I grew up in- in the n- | 219.9866 |
142 | | 220.5030 | in the building across from me, everybody in there was real dark but pretty. | 223.7484 |
144 | | 224.4292 | But they- I mean I can't help my skin color. It was just crazy. | 228.1444 |
145 | DCB_int_01 | 229.1842 | [So when you-] | 229.6272 |
146 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 229.2588 | [/Daw/.] | 229.5432 |
147 | DCB_int_01 | 229.8603 | when you moved here- where'd you- where'd you move to? Where was your first house? | 232.8154 |
148 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 233.7247 | In Parkland. | 234.4941 |
149 | DCB_int_01 | 234.6759 | In Parkland? | 235.3940 |
150 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 235.4873 | Mm-hm. | 236.0981 |
151 | DCB_int_01 | 236.8209 | And what do you remember about it? Do you remember the neighborhood? Do you remember, like, some of the other people? I know you said people across from you were really, like, they were dark and pretty, but do you remember, like, | 244.7327 |
153 | | 246.1817 | was it a lot of kids? Did you play [outside a lot?] | 248.3546 |
154 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 247.6225 | [It was a bunch] of kids around there. | 249.8700 |
155 | | 250.4750 | It was a bunch of kids. | 251.8086 |
157 | | 252.4428 | Um, we didn't jump double dutch in Roanoke. | 255.1659 |
159 | | 255.7208 | So when I got here, that was the first thing I had to learn how to do. And then I was better than they were so, | 261.0141 |
161 | | 261.4131 | that was, you know, that [wasn't good.] | 263.5770 |
162 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 262.6755 | [<laugh>] | 263.1605 |
163 | | 263.8319 | <laugh> | 264.1304 |
164 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 264.1677 | <laugh> | 264.6153 |
165 | DCB_int_01 | 265.7437 | So they let- you couldn't play no more with them? | 267.2312 |
166 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 267.3711 | No they wouldn't let me play with them no more. Say I took too long. | 270.0977 |
167 | DCB_int_01 | 270.8485 | So, <laugh> [cause you wouldn't get out.] | 273.0307 |
168 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 271.8696 | [They wouldn't-] | 272.9934 |
169 | DCB_int_01 | 274.0554 | [So- <laugh>] | 275.0019 |
170 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 274.0600 | [<laugh>] | 276.2003 |
171 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 276.1210 | Jump all day. | 277.0863 |
172 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 277.3707 | <laugh> | 278.2986 |
173 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 278.5504 | [<laugh>] | 279.0424 |
174 | DCB_int_01 | 278.5737 | [So when you couldn't] play double dutch anymore | 280.2710 |
175 | | 280.4611 | what did you do? | 281.2631 |
176 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 281.8226 | Played basketball and baseball. | 283.6551 |
177 | DCB_int_01 | 284.6250 | With the boys? | 285.3897 |
178 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 285.5203 | Mm-hm. | 285.8420 |
180 | | 286.6476 | I was a tomboy. | 287.6967 |
181 | DCB_int_01 | 289.1609 | Really? | 289.7391 |
182 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 289.8183 | Mm-hm. | 290.3079 |
183 | DCB_int_01 | 291.1006 | So tell me about your favorite | 292.6820 |
185 | | 292.9460 | basketball game as- growing up, as a kid. | 295.4702 |
186 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 295.7437 | Oh, that was in school. | 297.0820 |
188 | | 298.2326 | We used to beat everybody. | 299.5755 |
190 | | 301.0303 | And | 301.7297 |
192 | | 302.2240 | my thing was- at the time, | 303.9679 |
194 | | 305.0299 | most of the girls on the team were much taller than I am, | 308.2520 |
196 | | 308.9981 | so I could get to the basket better cause I could go under them | 312.0558 |
198 | | 312.5034 | and get to the basket. | 313.6598 |
200 | | 314.5224 | It [was good.] | 315.6555 |
201 | DCB_int_01 | 314.6670 | [So you played basketball] for- oh, cause your dad coached. | 317.4496 |
202 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 317.5428 | Mm-hm. | 317.9019 |
203 | DCB_int_01 | 317.8972 | So when you all moved to DC, did he continue [to coach?] | 320.2753 |
204 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 319.7950 | [No, my dad,] he rolled out when I was about three. He was gone. | 323.0228 |
205 | DCB_int_01 | 323.0206 | Oh, he was go- okay. [Alright.] | 324.3215 |
206 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 324.1490 | [Yeah] my mother remarried | 325.6505 |
207 | | 325.7624 | in, um, | 326.5504 |
209 | | 327.8013 | sixty five I guess. | 329.6459 |
211 | | 330.6666 | And | 331.8044 |
213 | | 333.8409 | my stepfather lived in Roanoke, but he moved to DC, | 337.4860 |
215 | | 338.1634 | and | 338.9421 |
217 | | 339.4912 | I saw him one day and told him where my mother was. Big mistake. | 343.1376 |
219 | | 343.6971 | They got back together, and then we moved up here. | 346.1871 |
220 | DCB_int_01 | 347.8319 | Gotcha, so that's how you got to DC. | 349.5992 |
221 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 349.6085 | Mm-hm. | 350.1354 |
222 | DCB_int_01 | 350.5504 | Okay. | 350.9794 |
223 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 351.1986 | It was Stepfather. | 352.3130 |
224 | DCB_int_01 | 352.5170 | Okay. | 352.9786 |
226 | | 353.5149 | And so, | 354.0837 |
228 | | 354.2096 | how long did you stay in Parkland? | 355.6696 |
229 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 357.1426 | Let me see. I got there in the sixth grade. I left there when I was | 360.5733 |
231 | | 360.7226 | eighteen. | 361.4033 |
233 | | 361.5619 | Seventeen. | 362.3313 |
235 | | 363.0354 | Eighteen. | 363.6042 |
237 | | 363.8968 | [Yeah, about eighteen.] | 365.0195 |
238 | DCB_int_01 | 364.0367 | [So your whole childhood] in- | 365.6408 |
239 | | 365.8972 | your whole childhood life in DC was in Parklands? | 368.4432 |
240 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 368.4898 | Mm-hm. | 368.9281 |
241 | DCB_int_01 | 370.1078 | Um, | 370.7500 |
243 | | 371.2910 | and that area right now is notoriously known for drugs and violence. Is it- was it like that then? | 376.5834 |
244 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 377.7527 | No. | 378.4941 |
246 | | 379.2821 | I didn't even know | 380.2846 |
248 | | 380.4105 | anything about marijuana til I was, like, eighteen. | 383.4589 |
250 | | 384.7832 | I think I smoked my first joint when I was eighteen. | 387.4746 |
251 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 387.8502 | <laugh> | 388.3725 |
252 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 388.4517 | Didn't even know what it was. Didn't even know what I was doing. | 390.7832 |
253 | DCB_int_01 | 391.8967 | So why'd you do it? | 392.5224 |
254 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 392.5224 | On the basketball court. Cause the fellas was doing it. | 395.1512 |
255 | DCB_int_01 | 396.0371 | And you wanted to be just one of the [guys?] | 397.5199 |
256 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 397.3567 | [Ju-] I was one of the guys. | 399.1846 |
257 | DCB_int_01 | 399.7814 | So let's talk about- | 400.7500 |
259 | | 401.0672 | let's talk about school because I think school- | 403.6178 |
261 | | 404.6110 | let's think about middle school cause that's when you were- you moved here right? | 407.3423 |
263 | | 407.5617 | [/Is at your/ middle] school? | 408.4661 |
264 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 407.6687 | [Mm-hm.] | 408.2096 |
265 | | 408.8997 | Mm-hm. | 409.2868 |
267 | | 409.5572 | Um, /RD-SCHOOL-1/. | 410.2753 |
268 | DCB_int_01 | 410.9794 | Mm-hm. | 411.2685 |
269 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 411.2452 | Mm-hm. | 411.6788 |
270 | DCB_int_01 | 412.1766 | So tell me about middle school a little bit. | 413.7247 |
271 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 416.0999 | Middle school was difficult for me because I was, I guess | 419.9188 |
273 | | 421.1684 | in a way, | 421.8900 |
275 | | 422.1325 | um, | 422.8553 |
277 | | 423.1537 | more mature than the kids my age. I wanted to dress nice. They were wearing jeans and all of that stuff, and I liked to wear skirts and stockings. | 431.0049 |
279 | | 433.2745 | And the boys liked | 434.2258 |
281 | | 434.8646 | girls with | 435.4754 |
283 | | 435.7319 | dresses on versus pants at the time. | 438.1286 |
285 | | 438.9213 | And then you had the- the little boys that always wanted give you a jacket if you had his name on it. | 444.3198 |
287 | | 444.7943 | Your name on it, that mean you go together. Now if you pull the stitching out and his name is gone, he see you- | 449.8442 |
289 | | 450.2032 | it's no conversation. We broke up. We don't need talk about it. | 453.0045 |
291 | | 454.7764 | You know? | 455.4758 |
293 | | 455.8815 | Or we put his name on our tennis shoes. | 457.8248 |
295 | | 458.1791 | You get tired of him, you take it off. | 460.4826 |
297 | | 460.5945 | We broke up. | 461.5084 |
298 | DCB_int_01 | 463.4471 | Did you have a lot of jackets? | 464.7737 |
299 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 465.1024 | [Mm-hm.] | 465.4381 |
300 | DCB_int_01 | 465.3495 | [And] a lot of tennis shoes? | 466.3800 |
301 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 466.3614 | [Mm-hm.] | 466.8603 |
302 | DCB_int_01 | 466.5665 | [Mm-hm.] | 467.0795 |
303 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 466.9059 | [<ts>] | 467.0820 |
304 | | 467.2861 | /Ch-/ | 467.5224 |
305 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 468.0633 | Mm-hm. | 468.6042 |
306 | DCB_int_01 | 469.1160 | So you were a tomboy, but you were also a girly girl if you wearing the skirts [and dresses.] | 473.0282 |
307 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 472.2914 | [Yeah.] Yeah. | 473.4245 |
308 | | 473.7789 | But see, when you see me with the girls with the dresses and the- and the stockings on- see we wore nineteens then. | 479.2287 |
310 | | 480.1566 | You wanna see a pair? | 480.9166 |
312 | | 481.3212 | I'm just kidding. | 482.0206 |
314 | | 482.6501 | We wore Nineteens and /Miller ?/. That was the style then. | 485.5551 |
316 | | 486.0120 | So | 486.4457 |
318 | | 486.6136 | they look better with a skirt on. | 488.3619 |
320 | | 488.9578 | And see everybody | 490.2774 |
322 | | 490.7670 | wore 'em, | 491.4618 |
324 | | 491.7369 | you know? | 492.3991 |
326 | | 493.7641 | But they look better with a skirt on. See when you bow legged and you got the fish nets on, | 497.8628 |
328 | | 498.7395 | they got the pretty legs, see? | 500.2071 |
329 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 501.0231 | <laugh> | 502.1049 |
330 | DCB_int_01 | 502.2448 | That's what worked for you. [That's what got all the boys?] | 504.5250 |
331 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 503.1634 | [That- it worked.] | 504.1100 |
333 | | 504.5203 | And then when you see me on the basketball court, it's like, that's not the same little girl with the long hair | 510.2452 |
334 | | 511.3305 | that we saw earlier looking prim and proper. Now she done change [into something] else. | 516.3947 |
335 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 514.9815 | [<laugh>] | 515.5224 |
336 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 517.9087 | You know? | 518.6175 |
338 | | 519.6526 | Go out, fight with the boys. We did everything. | 521.8955 |
339 | DCB_int_01 | 522.6462 | Were you good? | 523.2524 |
340 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 523.6429 | I w- I was damn good. | 525.1863 |
341 | DCB_int_01 | 526.4080 | At basketball and fighting? | 527.6903 |
342 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 527.9794 | Basketball, fighting and basketball- uh, baseball. | 530.9252 |
343 | DCB_int_01 | 531.6619 | Tell me about your best fight. | 532.9219 |
344 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 534.1986 | Oh, Lord. | 535.3689 |
345 | DCB_int_01 | 535.4844 | Mm-hm. | 536.1698 |
346 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 536.7853 | This girl, /RD-NAME-4/, | 538.5199 |
348 | | 540.6882 | she went to g- | 541.9320 |
350 | | 542.0859 | her and her family was | 543.5221 |
352 | | 543.7692 | in the military, and she left. | 545.6810 |
354 | | 546.5984 | And she had this boyfriend that would carry her books everyday, so I said, sure he can carry mine, too. | 551.2520 |
356 | | 552.1799 | So she left and | 553.4855 |
358 | | 553.7455 | /RD-NAME-2/ w- his name was /RD-NAME-2/. | 555.6013 |
360 | | 555.9883 | He would carry my books to school. Now I lived at Twenty First and Mississippi. I was going to | 560.2164 |
362 | | 560.6361 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ at Fourth and Mississippi. We had to walk. | 563.5877 |
364 | | 565.4237 | She came back. | 566.4263 |
366 | | 567.8485 | I heard you was messing with my boyfriend, and pushed me. | 570.9633 |
368 | | 571.3118 | Me and this girl fought every day for four days. | 573.8065 |
370 | | 575.1681 | From Twenty First and Mississippi to Fourth and Mississippi, every day. | 578.5289 |
372 | | 579.7645 | And every time I would see her, because she had pushed me, I would go push her again and we would start fighting. | 584.5475 |
374 | | 585.9837 | And we would fight almost twenty blocks. | 588.1473 |
376 | | 590.6548 | [<laugh>] | 591.7832 |
377 | DCB_int_01 | 591.0371 | [<laugh>] | 592.5805 |
378 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 592.1515 | [<laugh>] | 593.0981 |
379 | DCB_int_01 | 593.1354 | So who won? | 593.9514 |
380 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 594.6882 | Who you think? | 595.6989 |
381 | DCB_int_01 | 596.2724 | [<laugh>] | 600.0167 |
382 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 596.2771 | [Me. <laugh>] | 600.0260 |
383 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 598.5618 | [<laugh>] | 599.9769 |
384 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 600.6357 | That's why I kept- I could intimidate her, you know? | 603.7475 |
386 | | 604.7158 | Which /now/ was wrong but, | 606.4410 |
388 | | 607.0938 | I knew she couldn't beat me. | 608.3610 |
389 | DCB_int_01 | 610.7904 | Did he continue carrying your books? | 612.6462 |
390 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 612.6882 | Mm-hm. | 613.0612 |
391 | DCB_int_01 | 613.3258 | Mm. | 613.5187 |
392 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 614.6629 | And actually, | 615.5559 |
394 | | 616.0968 | from then- one of- | 617.3254 |
396 | | 617.6093 | That had to be n- | 618.2877 |
398 | | 618.5675 | thirty years ago, forty years ago. | 620.8080 |
400 | | 621.4836 | I got a, um, text from him | 623.3995 |
402 | | 624.0476 | couple months ago, | 625.1550 |
404 | | 625.7542 | and he said, | 626.5959 |
406 | | 627.5419 | um, | 628.2413 |
408 | | 629.4607 | he said something | 630.5815 |
410 | | 631.1084 | about the fight. I said- | 632.3324 |
412 | | 632.4723 | N- | 632.6285 |
414 | | 632.7632 | yeah, you was fighting on my ex-girlfriend, /RD-NAME-2/. I said, no I was whooping her ass every day. | 637.6097 |
416 | | 637.9349 | He said, that's what I remember. | 639.2778 |
417 | DCB_int_01 | 639.4410 | [<laugh>] | 640.7500 |
418 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 639.7803 | [<laugh>] | 645.1193 |
419 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 640.3911 | [<laugh>] | 642.1304 |
420 | DCB_int_01 | 641.1278 | [<laugh>] | 642.9044 |
421 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 645.2638 | Yeah. | 645.9213 |
422 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 645.8887 | <laugh> | 646.4436 |
423 | | 646.7362 | [<laugh>] | 648.9417 |
424 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 647.9858 | [Mm-hm.] | 648.8251 |
425 | | 648.9977 | [<laugh>] | 649.4453 |
426 | DCB_int_01 | 649.0070 | [Okay.] | 649.4546 |
427 | | 649.7717 | You know, I'm'a come- I wanna come back to it. | 651.4783 |
429 | | 651.6509 | But I wanna ask you- cause I totally forgot about | 653.7014 |
431 | | 653.8692 | asking you, kind of, about your family. | 655.2868 |
433 | | 655.9815 | So, | 656.3855 |
435 | | 656.5831 | <clears throat> | 657.1100 |
437 | | 657.4737 | when you were explaining your mom- so tell me a little bit about | 660.4101 |
439 | | 661.6831 | growing up. | 662.2800 |
441 | | 662.8349 | Your mom- | 663.6042 |
443 | | 663.8549 | was anybody in the house with you all? | 665.3097 |
444 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 665.9625 | My mom, my sister, and my brother. Then my mom had another baby, so I had two brothers and a sister. | 671.1660 |
445 | DCB_int_01 | 673.3754 | Were you the oldest? | 674.1156 |
446 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 674.9100 | No, I was next to the youngest. | 676.7123 |
447 | DCB_int_01 | 676.9897 | Okay. | 677.3557 |
448 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 677.7795 | See after me, I was the baby for- | 679.5537 |
450 | | 679.8778 | forever. | 680.6262 |
452 | | 680.7608 | I had a older sister, older brother, then me. | 683.2065 |
454 | | 683.6536 | Then she had my little brother | 685.0828 |
456 | | 685.5794 | when I was about thirteen. | 686.9770 |
457 | DCB_int_01 | 688.4162 | Oh, so similar to /RD-NAME-3/ and /RD-NAME-2/. | 690.7214 |
459 | | 691.4500 | So he understands the str- you understand his struggle. | 693.8735 |
460 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 694.1766 | Oh yeah, that's my [buddy.] | 695.4123 |
461 | DCB_int_01 | 695.1791 | [Mm-hm.] But you also understand her struggle. She was- | 697.1329 |
462 | | 697.3707 | She was the baby. She was the only one, | 699.3478 |
464 | | 699.5389 | then twelve years later, he come and pop up. | 701.4356 |
466 | | 703.0256 | So how did it feel to be dethroned? | 704.6810 |
467 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 705.9446 | Not too good. | 706.8900 |
469 | | 709.1142 | But I had a messed up stepfather. | 711.1892 |
471 | | 712.3305 | You know, he wanted to play his little games at night with me, and | 715.5106 |
473 | | 716.0235 | I just told- I had a girlfriend that was being, | 718.2244 |
475 | | 718.7875 | um, | 719.3563 |
477 | | 720.1770 | sexually abused by her father. | 722.2940 |
479 | | 723.1379 | And I wasn't going through that. I just told him, I will cut your | 725.8086 |
481 | | 726.0931 | heart out and have it laying on the table when my mom get home from work at midnight. | 729.6882 |
483 | | 729.8654 | I ain't going through this with you. | 731.2537 |
485 | | 732.9184 | So I called and told my dad, and my dad called him and told him, | 735.9819 |
487 | | 736.8014 | if you touch my daughter again, | 738.5640 |
489 | | 738.8951 | I'm coming down there just to kill you. I'll be back in Milwaukee before your last breath. | 743.9929 |
490 | DCB_int_01 | 745.9116 | And he didn't bother you [anymore?] | 747.0354 |
491 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 746.9374 | [Mm-mm.] | 747.6788 |
492 | DCB_int_01 | 748.2512 | And did your mom and | 749.0859 |
494 | | 749.1885 | stepfather stay together for a- | 750.5034 |
496 | | 751.1236 | a long time? | 751.9629 |
497 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 752.9374 | Not really. I'd say maybe ten years. | 755.8646 |
499 | | 757.4220 | Yeah, maybe about ten years. | 759.3254 |
501 | | 760.5077 | Because he was- | 761.6734 |
503 | | 761.9065 | he was messing with the lady that used to bring him home every day. | 765.1286 |
505 | | 766.1580 | And me and my brother- and they'd be | 767.5848 |
507 | | 767.7667 | drunk when they get there and me and- sometime me and my brother used to rob him and give my mother the money, | 772.6989 |
509 | | 773.2724 | his paycheck. | 774.0371 |
511 | | 777.8689 | That's what we did. | 778.7500 |
512 | DCB_int_01 | 780.8531 | Tell me about your siblings. Your older- your- | 782.7183 |
514 | | 783.0493 | your older brother. | 783.7440 |
515 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 784.6755 | My older brother, | 785.8506 |
517 | | 787.0918 | he got married young | 788.5318 |
519 | | 789.0167 | and left. | 789.8094 |
521 | | 791.0019 | And that marriage didn't last too long, and then he ended up out there on the streets on crack. | 796.4156 |
523 | | 796.6149 | Still on crack. | 797.7620 |
525 | | 797.9392 | He's sixty three years old. | 799.3147 |
527 | | 800.6716 | And, um, | 801.7523 |
529 | | 803.8180 | we still talk but we had some differences | 806.1074 |
531 | | 806.3825 | after my sister passed away last year | 808.6627 |
533 | | 810.5500 | because that meant that I had to be out in Bowie every day. | 814.9600 |
535 | | 815.4496 | Cause my mom and my sister lived together, so I had to come out there and take care of my mom while my sister was going through what she was going through. | 822.0837 |
537 | | 823.2028 | And my brother wasn't doing his part. | 825.2918 |
538 | DCB_int_01 | 825.7989 | Mm-hm. | 826.1393 |
539 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 827.2537 | So we had some altercations. | 829.1236 |
540 | DCB_int_01 | 831.0120 | [What about your younger sibling?] | 832.2384 |
541 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 831.1706 | [<laugh>] | 832.2244 |
542 | | 833.6035 | Uh, | 833.7107 |
544 | | 834.2516 | Love him to death. | 835.3287 |
546 | | 836.1121 | That's my best friend, man. We were never close | 838.6680 |
548 | | 839.2771 | becau- Uh, the age difference. | 840.9650 |
549 | DCB_int_01 | 840.9510 | Mm-hm. | 841.2122 |
550 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 841.1888 | Um, | 841.6272 |
551 | | 842.1354 | he's a boy. I'm a girl. | 843.6695 |
553 | | 844.1125 | And I met my husband when I was seventeen. I was with him from seventeen til he died when I was fifty four. | 850.3282 |
554 | DCB_int_01 | 852.0464 | So we'll talk about that in a second. | 853.6738 |
555 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 853.9722 | [Mm-hm.] | 854.5131 |
556 | DCB_int_01 | 854.2007 | [Um,] | 854.7229 |
557 | | 855.1193 | and so, | 855.7907 |
559 | | 856.1673 | but you're still very close with your youngest brother? | 858.2283 |
560 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 858.3355 | Mm-hm. | 858.7505 |
561 | DCB_int_01 | 859.6411 | Okay, and then you said your mom. So your mom is still living. | 862.0239 |
562 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 862.3725 | Yeah, she's living with my younger brother. | 864.4055 |
563 | DCB_int_01 | 865.0396 | In Bowie. | 865.5479 |
564 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 865.9536 | N- No, he lives in Beltsville. | 867.5256 |
565 | DCB_int_01 | 867.5891 | Oh, in Beltsville. | 868.4851 |
566 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 868.6103 | Mm-hm. | 868.9880 |
567 | DCB_int_01 | 869.1512 | Did you have a really close relationship with your mom? | 871.0350 |
568 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 871.7531 | No. | 872.1354 |
570 | | 874.7781 | Mm-mm. | 875.2258 |
571 | DCB_int_01 | 875.9812 | Mm-hm. | 876.2423 |
573 | | 876.8112 | Mkay. | 877.1376 |
574 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 877.6878 | <laugh> | 878.9561 |
575 | DCB_int_01 | 878.9934 | Alright, amen. | 879.8793 |
577 | | 880.3445 | So when you were se- um, so in high school, | 882.6853 |
579 | | 883.4966 | um, | 884.0282 |
581 | | 884.2333 | you went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. Tell me about /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 885.9913 |
582 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 886.4331 | Uh. | 886.8667 |
583 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 888.9277 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was a good school. | 890.4711 |
585 | | 890.9234 | We had good teachers except for, um, | 893.9439 |
587 | | 895.7624 | my history teacher. | 896.9794 |
589 | | 898.2244 | In my senior year, | 899.7480 |
591 | | 901.1329 | you know, um, | 902.5364 |
593 | | 903.2125 | anybody could teach you Black History then. | 905.3900 |
595 | | 905.5848 | I had a white | 906.1350 |
597 | | 906.4288 | teacher teaching me Black History, so I told her, you can't tell me nothing. | 909.7420 |
599 | | 910.9227 | You're white. You never lived in the black community. I really don't like [you,] | 914.8800 |
600 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 914.4012 | [<laugh>] | 915.1939 |
601 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 915.8374 | and I'm not coming in here anymore. So she failed me, and I needed | 919.2868 |
603 | | 919.8883 | that | 920.0981 |
605 | | 920.2846 | class to graduate. | 921.7441 |
607 | | 921.8549 | So I had to graduate from summer school | 923.8599 |
609 | | 923.9905 | because of her. | 924.7552 |
611 | | 925.4826 | When I told my | 926.4152 |
613 | | 926.6950 | summer school teacher why I was there because they were like, | 929.8646 |
615 | | 930.2982 | you got all these As and Bs and Cs. How you get a F in Black History? And I told 'em why. | 935.0019 |
617 | | 935.4403 | They said, we gonna give you a A. Don't come back here no more. | 937.6785 |
618 | DCB_int_01 | 939.0817 | Mm. | 939.3845 |
619 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 940.8947 | It was just like that. And see, the only white people that went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ came from Bolling Air Force Base. | 946.1218 |
621 | | 948.0651 | You know? | 948.5267 |
623 | | 949.0583 | And | 949.5013 |
625 | | 950.4199 | it wasn't a real violent school. We didn't have a lot of fights. It was no big problems there. | 955.8137 |
627 | | 956.3173 | School was good. | 957.5296 |
629 | | 957.8840 | It was fun, and you learned, you know. | 960.1583 |
631 | | 960.8764 | So | 961.4500 |
633 | | 961.5899 | I don't know. | 962.2706 |
635 | | 962.5877 | I don't know what happened to these kids now. | 964.4948 |
636 | DCB_int_01 | 964.6662 | Did you have a favorite subject or a favorite teacher? I know you didn't like this one, but did you have like- | 968.6996 |
637 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 968.9934 | I loved music. | 970.1349 |
638 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 970.7892 | Mm. | 970.9780 |
640 | | 971.4554 | <snap> | 971.6000 |
641 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 971.6443 | [Because] we had a good choir, | 973.3812 |
642 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 971.8354 | [<snap>] | 971.9660 |
643 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 974.0200 | and we used to sing at different schools and go to different places and | 977.6005 |
645 | | 977.7865 | got breaks from school, you know. | 979.5141 |
647 | | 979.8312 | See, I can't sing, girl, but I was on the choir. | 982.0361 |
649 | | 982.6237 | Hanging out with everybody else. | 984.0453 |
651 | | 985.1620 | Did it for three years, yes I did. | 988.0874 |
653 | | 989.8972 | You got breaks. [<laugh>] | 993.2125 |
654 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 992.2800 | [<laugh>] | 994.3876 |
655 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 995.8226 | Music and lunch. | 997.1888 |
656 | DCB_int_01 | 997.7297 | [<laugh>] | 1001.2621 |
657 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 998.1774 | [<laugh>] | 1000.7500 |
658 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 998.6250 | [<laugh>] | 1000.8248 |
659 | | 1001.7340 | <laugh> | 1002.3822 |
660 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1003.2122 | Yes. | 1004.1168 |
662 | | 1006.0472 | I- I- I can't say I didn't like English, math, and all of that. I was good at that too. I hated history. | 1011.7616 |
664 | | 1014.1910 | I mean, what's your point? | 1015.1003 |
666 | | 1016.6297 | They dead. It's over. | 1018.4424 |
668 | | 1019.3423 | Why you gonna tell me about it? | 1020.6143 |
670 | | 1021.3894 | Put that drama in my life? | 1022.7509 |
672 | | 1023.0866 | I don't care. | 1023.8840 |
674 | | 1025.0999 | That's the way I felt. | 1026.1585 |
675 | DCB_int_01 | 1026.4682 | Mm-hm. | 1026.8942 |
676 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1026.9697 | I really felt that way. | 1028.1587 |
678 | | 1028.8861 | I mean now I understand why we need history. | 1031.7247 |
680 | | 1032.3822 | But then I didn't. And, uh, my mother wasn't- | 1034.8535 |
682 | | 1035.0773 | my mother I think she grad- | 1036.4424 |
684 | | 1036.6196 | dropped out in like the ninth grade, so what was she gonna tell me? | 1039.3660 |
686 | | 1040.8302 | My stepfather was crazy. | 1042.7140 |
688 | | 1043.6687 | He told me, I don't care how good you are in school. I'm not sending you to college. | 1047.4066 |
690 | | 1049.4542 | So I basically had to fend for myself, um, | 1052.8535 |
692 | | 1053.7768 | from the first day in DC on. | 1056.0884 |
694 | | 1057.6971 | Because he lied and told us, we gonna move to DC. Y'all going to private schools. | 1061.8879 |
696 | | 1062.5081 | /RD-NAME-2/, you- I know you gonna need a car, so you gonna have your own car, and this that and /all/- we ready to go to DC. | 1067.4076 |
698 | | 1068.7226 | That nigga worked out in, um, | 1070.9374 |
700 | | 1073.8879 | They called it Children's Center at the time, in Laurel, where bad kids went when they had problems. That's where they stored bad kids. | 1081.5479 |
702 | | 1082.1681 | And his thing to get me to straighten up was, | 1084.3643 |
704 | | 1084.7362 | you gonna end up out here where I work. And I'm like, shit. (breathy) | 1087.3847 |
706 | | 1089.3431 | And that's where- and, you know, n- | 1090.6178 |
708 | | 1091.0066 | all the government would supply all the k- uh, bad kids with their clothes out there. | 1094.9048 |
710 | | 1095.2452 | That nigga thought I was gonna wear that. | 1096.8994 |
712 | | 1098.4335 | From the- m- from the- | 1099.7344 |
714 | | 1099.9256 | <laugh> | 1100.1960 |
716 | | 1101.3618 | the plaid shirts and plaid pants and /?/ (laughing) <laugh> | 1106.9048 |
718 | | 1108.5123 | So I had to keep a connection with my dad to get money to wear nice clothes. And then when my sister graduated from high school | 1115.1791 |
720 | | 1115.7573 | and got a job, she bought my clothes. | 1117.9722 |
721 | DCB_int_01 | 1118.1494 | Mm. | 1118.5271 |
722 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1118.9887 | You know, cause my mother wasn't making that much. | 1121.1325 |
724 | | 1121.8739 | So, | 1122.3215 |
726 | | 1123.7484 | it was crazy. | 1124.7836 |
727 | DCB_int_01 | 1125.5809 | So once you left high school, what did you do? | 1127.3750 |
728 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1129.1562 | <ts> | 1129.2681 |
730 | | 1129.4220 | Moved in with my boy- my husband. | 1131.4317 |
731 | DCB_int_01 | 1132.2839 | Oh, cause that's- okay. So before we- Okay. So now you are married at this p- So how did you | 1135.8603 |
733 | | 1135.9909 | meet him and how did y'all get mar- and like- | 1137.9400 |
735 | | 1138.9180 | how did you [decide to get married?] | 1140.3076 |
736 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1139.2584 | [I met him,] | 1140.2609 |
737 | | 1140.8671 | um, this guy, /RD-NAME-4/ and his brother /RD-NAME-2/, | 1144.2197 |
739 | | 1144.6849 | they used to hang over my girlfriend's house. | 1146.9371 |
741 | | 1147.4220 | They used to always say, you so pretty. Why you don't have no boyfriend? I told 'em, I don't even like men. They ain't right. | 1152.3682 |
743 | | 1153.3147 | So one of 'em said, if I introduce you to a guy that make good money, | 1156.6709 |
745 | | 1157.0719 | got his own house, got his own car, | 1159.5199 |
747 | | 1160.0235 | that just | 1160.6250 |
749 | | 1161.2825 | looking for somebody, | 1162.3876 |
751 | | 1162.9227 | you wanna meet him? I'm like, okay. | 1164.6200 |
753 | | 1165.6691 | So that's how I met him. | 1166.7882 |
755 | | 1168.0181 | And when I first met him, I was scared of him cause he was drunk all the time. | 1171.1236 |
757 | | 1172.5411 | My husband's smoking weed and | 1174.1171 |
759 | | 1174.5357 | drinking wine. And they- when they go to the liquor store, they do- they go- It was three of 'em. | 1178.7602 |
761 | | 1179.0354 | /RD-NAME-2/, /RD-NAME-2/, | 1180.0286 |
763 | | 1180.4844 | and /RD-NAME-2/. | 1181.1745 |
765 | | 1181.7340 | You would think they'd go in there and get | 1182.7552 |
767 | | 1182.9557 | three bottles of wine. They go in there and get nine of 'em. Three for /RD-NAME-2/. Three for /RD-NAME-2/. Three for /RD-NAME-2/. | 1187.6128 |
769 | | 1191.2778 | And all three of 'em on a Friday probably made a lot of money. | 1194.3169 |
771 | | 1194.9790 | And that's who I hung out with. | 1196.7136 |
773 | | 1197.9866 | And I stayed with him- | 1199.9905 |
775 | | 1200.3402 | Let me see. I had my daughter when I was twenty two. | 1203.0540 |
777 | | 1203.8793 | We got married when I was twenty six. | 1206.0651 |
779 | | 1207.3520 | Been together ever since. | 1208.8022 |
780 | DCB_int_01 | 1209.8316 | So | 1210.1766 |
782 | | 1210.4004 | when you left, and y'all were married, where'd you move to? | 1212.9277 |
783 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1213.6785 | <clears throat> When I left where? | 1214.8878 |
784 | DCB_int_01 | 1215.5809 | When y'all got married, where was your first house toget- or- | 1217.6687 |
785 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1217.8692 | Oh, we [lived on Florida Avenue.] | 1220.0655 |
786 | DCB_int_01 | 1217.9189 | [or when y'all met, when you left/.] | 1219.7251 |
787 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1220.3934 | Florida Avenue Northeast. | 1221.8202 |
789 | | 1222.1968 | /RD-ADDRESS-5/- | 1222.9568 |
791 | | 1223.1853 | What was that? | 1223.8661 |
793 | | 1224.5609 | /RD-ADDRESS-10/, wasn't it? | 1226.3747 |
794 | DCB_int_01 | 1227.7130 | Tell me about that house. | 1228.7570 |
795 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1230.0293 | When I moved there, the house didn't have a shower. | 1232.9529 |
797 | | 1234.5885 | The house was old, | 1236.2125 |
799 | | 1236.8922 | and he used to always say, well why you always gotta go out with your friends? I said, fix this house up like you want me to be here then. | 1243.1125 |
801 | | 1244.1372 | Girl, what I say that for? I looked up, they was tearing the house down. We was moving out. | 1248.8980 |
803 | | 1249.4202 | He had gutted. | 1250.5941 |
805 | | 1251.6853 | E- | 1251.8205 |
807 | | 1252.0303 | Plumbing, electrical, everything was just | 1254.2685 |
809 | | 1254.5389 | taken out of the house and all new stuff put in. All new furniture, everything. | 1258.0758 |
811 | | 1259.3557 | Now you gonna stay in the house. I said, a little bit. <laugh> | 1261.8755 |
813 | | 1262.0760 | [<laugh>] | 1262.8750 |
814 | DCB_int_01 | 1262.4321 | [<laugh>] | 1263.2225 |
815 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1262.4910 | [<laugh>] | 1264.1563 |
816 | DCB_int_01 | 1263.4976 | [<laugh>] | 1264.9944 |
817 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1266.7937 | Always had a nice car, | 1268.3604 |
819 | | 1268.5883 | you know. | 1269.1688 |
821 | | 1270.0781 | He was a good guy. | 1271.0060 |
822 | DCB_int_01 | 1272.4066 | Do you feel like y'all were like- | 1273.9174 |
824 | | 1274.9777 | That y'all had made it? | 1276.0198 |
825 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1276.6796 | Mm-hm. | 1277.1576 |
827 | | 1278.8753 | He was the best. He was the best for me anyway. | 1281.6165 |
829 | | 1282.3229 | I mean, he wasn't perfect. He was perfect for me. | 1284.3763 |
830 | DCB_int_01 | 1284.6720 | Mm-hm. | 1285.1191 |
831 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1285.2436 | I mean, I never- | 1286.5306 |
833 | | 1287.3787 | You know he was one of the type, when we were just dating, he'd call me, say, okay it's payday. Come on, what- what do you need? Are your bills paid? What do you need to do? | 1294.7093 |
835 | | 1295.4064 | And I'm'a- you know, I was working too. I'm good. | 1297.9629 |
837 | | 1299.0540 | I think he liked the fact that | 1300.5447 |
839 | | 1300.9833 | he h- | 1301.3050 |
841 | | 1301.5382 | he already had, | 1302.5687 |
843 | | 1302.7412 | um, | 1303.3474 |
845 | | 1305.4958 | kids, and | 1306.3678 |
847 | | 1306.5217 | I didn't have any. | 1307.4729 |
848 | DCB_int_01 | 1308.8338 | Mm. | 1309.2456 |
849 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1310.3406 | Mm-hm. | 1311.0074 |
850 | DCB_int_01 | 1313.0206 | And so then, | 1314.0558 |
852 | | 1314.9184 | that's when y'all got together. | 1316.0795 |
854 | | 1316.2019 | So then how'd you have your daughter? | 1317.5162 |
856 | | 1318.3229 | I mean I know you- how you had her, | 1319.5073 |
858 | | 1319.8121 | but I mean- | 1320.3810 |
859 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1320.5046 | Are you kidding me? I didn't do nothing. I was raped. [<laugh>] | 1325.5959 |
860 | DCB_int_01 | 1323.4136 | [<laugh>] | 1326.4463 |
861 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1323.9673 | [<laugh>] | 1326.3892 |
862 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1327.9268 | Let me tell you, that was the most scariest thing to tell somebody because I felt like if you | 1332.6136 |
864 | | 1333.1113 | have a baby, we should plan this together. | 1335.6480 |
865 | DCB_int_01 | 1336.0676 | Mm. | 1336.5036 |
866 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1336.7111 | You know? | 1337.2427 |
868 | | 1337.9701 | And, when I found out that I was pregnant- Now I was on birth control. I don't know what happened. | 1342.8367 |
870 | | 1343.6903 | But anyway, I went for a physical, and they told me I was pregnant. | 1347.1164 |
872 | | 1348.3287 | So I left the doctors, went to the liquor store, got me a half a pint of Hennessy, | 1353.3954 |
874 | | 1354.4080 | put it in a cup, | 1355.4152 |
876 | | 1355.7090 | and all then- | 1356.3291 |
878 | | 1357.1467 | bout that much chaser, and I drunk it, so I could t- have the- t- | 1360.7764 |
880 | | 1361.7929 | just tell him, you know. | 1363.0099 |
882 | | 1364.3097 | You pregnant? | 1365.1723 |
884 | | 1365.5407 | Oh my God, I got to go call and tell the boys. | 1367.8302 |
886 | | 1368.5844 | With my baby? Y- rea- are you kidding me? I mean he was so happy. | 1372.4919 |
888 | | 1372.9862 | And I'm sitting here, like why am I drunk then? | 1374.8409 |
890 | | 1376.8040 | You know? | 1377.4661 |
892 | | 1378.1609 | It was just- | 1379.7043 |
894 | | 1379.9701 | that man loved me. | 1381.0146 |
896 | | 1383.2190 | I mean anything I did was fine, long as it was beneficial to the family. Me having his baby was just the ultimate. | 1389.7878 |
898 | | 1390.7764 | Only thing he said, | 1391.7882 |
900 | | 1391.8955 | just make sure it's not a girl. | 1393.4331 |
901 | DCB_int_01 | 1394.3657 | <laugh> | 1394.8879 |
902 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1395.0651 | <laugh> | 1395.8158 |
904 | | 1397.4432 | I couldn't help it. | 1398.3804 |
906 | | 1398.4923 | It was a girl. | 1399.4176 |
908 | | 1400.3144 | And sh- her mother. | 1401.9137 |
910 | | 1402.7158 | And it's just been crazy ever since. | 1404.9073 |
912 | | 1406.7853 | I mean he just- | 1407.9744 |
914 | | 1408.3008 | I don't care. | 1408.9256 |
916 | | 1409.2100 | I could be on the phone, like, I was talking to my mom one day, and I said, mom, | 1412.6921 |
918 | | 1413.2236 | you know they got white Christmas trees out now? I n- I need to get me one of these, but they so expensive. He say something like, | 1418.9019 |
920 | | 1419.3775 | get off the phone, I'm'a buy you one. | 1420.9282 |
922 | | 1423.2978 | Ma, I got to go. [<laugh> You know. (laughing)] | 1426.8929 |
923 | DCB_int_01 | 1425.1956 | [<laugh>] | 1427.4758 |
924 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1428.1286 | Or I come home, /RD-NAME-2/, there's a new car- when the Cougar first came out? | 1431.6500 |
926 | | 1432.7484 | I was like, it's a new car out, and I sure could use one. | 1436.3423 |
928 | | 1437.0744 | He said, well wait til the kids come home. We'll go get one. | 1439.8488 |
930 | | 1440.9388 | He didn't even know what it looked like. | 1442.2211 |
932 | | 1444.0536 | I went got me a black on black | 1445.4012 |
934 | | 1445.6996 | Cougar. | 1446.1333 |
936 | | 1447.0414 | He was just good. We were good together. | 1449.4241 |
937 | DCB_int_01 | 1449.5127 | What year was that? | 1450.3334 |
938 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1451.1960 | Um, nineteen seventy | 1453.4098 |
940 | | 1454.8273 | four was when the Cougar came out. | 1456.8101 |
941 | DCB_int_01 | 1458.2032 | So what was going on in the city? | 1459.7921 |
943 | | 1460.0159 | Like, so you had- In your world, in your home, | 1462.8603 |
945 | | 1463.2100 | you had the good l- like l- you were living the good life. Y'all were comfortable, but [what was going] on around you? | 1467.7785 |
946 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1466.2677 | [Mm-hm.] | 1466.7573 |
947 | | 1470.0633 | Um, that's when we s- | 1471.1311 |
949 | | 1471.3911 | It started going into the drug selling. | 1473.7878 |
951 | | 1475.1401 | Um, | 1475.9421 |
953 | | 1477.8108 | but my kids weren't allowed to go | 1479.5360 |
955 | | 1480.5712 | away from hollering distance. | 1482.2965 |
957 | | 1483.8201 | You know? | 1484.3517 |
959 | | 1484.9205 | Um, like I said, he had the two kids and, | 1487.1867 |
961 | | 1487.9328 | um, | 1488.5949 |
963 | | 1489.4237 | they- | 1489.7362 |
965 | | 1489.8900 | I w- | 1490.1512 |
967 | | 1490.9951 | I was with him like four years before my daughter was born. | 1494.2058 |
969 | | 1494.6462 | So I'm tryna mould them into what they needed to be cause they was bad as I don't know what. | 1499.4665 |
971 | | 1500.6648 | But | 1500.9062 |
973 | | 1501.9833 | <clears throat> | 1502.2491 |
975 | | 1503.8811 | it was just a lot going on. Everybody partied out in front of they house, and | 1508.1698 |
977 | | 1508.8273 | all the k- | 1509.4055 |
979 | | 1509.5827 | That was the village raising the kid? | 1511.8535 |
981 | | 1513.0146 | I r- I grew up in that- | 1514.0439 |
983 | | 1514.2957 | that | 1514.5848 |
985 | | 1515.1024 | neighborhood. | 1515.8391 |
987 | | 1517.4432 | I see my neighbor's kids doing something wrong, beat they ass, call they mama. | 1521.4754 |
989 | | 1522.2774 | She'd get 'em, | 1523.0935 |
991 | | 1523.7369 | and to this day, they still call me and say, thank you for being who you were. | 1527.4008 |
993 | | 1527.9324 | You know? | 1528.4826 |
995 | | 1529.9260 | /I tell her, you telling-/ | 1531.1265 |
997 | | 1531.9833 | <clears throat> if your kid come in my house and they do something wrong with my kids, I'm gonna beat them altogether. | 1537.6243 |
999 | | 1538.3843 | If I can't touch your kid, keep 'em out my house. | 1540.7857 |
1001 | | 1541.7043 | That's the way we did, | 1542.7534 |
1003 | | 1542.9528 | you know? | 1543.3818 |
1005 | | 1543.9040 | And it worked for us | 1545.0884 |
1006 | DCB_int_01 | 1545.4288 | Mm-hm. | 1545.8158 |
1007 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1546.0023 | because, | 1546.6691 |
1009 | | 1546.8556 | um, as the years went on on Florida Avenue, | 1549.5974 |
1011 | | 1550.2071 | uh, the drugs got worse, | 1552.0117 |
1013 | | 1552.4546 | the kids- every time you turn the TV on, everything on the news- that's when they were killing five hundred kids a year in the city. | 1559.1960 |
1015 | | 1559.7882 | Just right here in DC. | 1561.1451 |
1017 | | 1562.0159 | Every kid looked like my children, | 1563.8485 |
1019 | | 1564.3287 | my boys. | 1565.2380 |
1021 | | 1565.8209 | And I'm like, | 1566.4037 |
1023 | | 1566.5425 | oh Lord, now I got to move. | 1568.4916 |
1025 | | 1568.8739 | I mean I remember nights, | 1569.9464 |
1027 | | 1570.4080 | I'd be- We'd be up in the, um, | 1572.3757 |
1029 | | 1572.9435 | arch | 1573.3864 |
1031 | | 1573.5543 | of the bedroom, | 1574.5475 |
1033 | | 1575.0698 | and the gunshots were so close, me and my husband both would hit the floor. | 1578.8001 |
1035 | | 1580.6501 | It was terrible. | 1581.5733 |
1037 | | 1582.3008 | And, um, | 1583.5877 |
1039 | | 1584.3524 | what was that night? | 1585.1731 |
1041 | | 1585.8527 | Two thousand | 1587.2391 |
1043 | | 1589.2846 | three or four I think, | 1590.3711 |
1045 | | 1590.7255 | that's when we moved to Southeast. | 1592.4921 |
1047 | | 1593.2330 | They ain't no ambulances, no nothing. | 1595.4152 |
1049 | | 1596.1053 | But, | 1596.6182 |
1051 | | 1598.1232 | um, the city was in an uproar. I even still remember like it was yesterday when King got killed, when everybody went up | 1604.5988 |
1053 | | 1604.7200 | Eighth Street and, | 1605.4428 |
1055 | | 1606.0816 | um, | 1606.6598 |
1057 | | 1606.7717 | broke into everything, and | 1608.1333 |
1059 | | 1608.5576 | I mean, just tore up the black neighborhoods. They did not go up Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue and | 1613.6483 |
1061 | | 1613.9374 | do- | 1614.3011 |
1063 | | 1614.7068 | taking nothing from them white people | 1616.0999 |
1065 | | 1616.8926 | that they say killed King. | 1618.5153 |
1067 | | 1618.9396 | Why are you tearing up your own neighborhood? Then they can't even get to the store. They got to go across town. They ain't go no car. | 1624.1702 |
1069 | | 1624.6785 | Tryna get to the grocery store, tryna get to the cleaners, tryna get to wherever they needed to go. | 1629.1273 |
1071 | | 1629.5081 | Cause they tore up they own stuff. | 1631.0375 |
1073 | | 1632.0400 | Everybody had free liquor. Everybody had free everything. | 1634.9205 |
1075 | | 1635.2749 | My husband said, y'all better not bring none of that stuff in here. | 1638.1193 |
1077 | | 1638.5063 | You know, we got boys in here. We gotta teach them right from wrong. | 1641.6246 |
1079 | | 1642.6831 | It was terrible. | 1643.7556 |
1081 | | 1645.7548 | I mean people was bragging about, | 1647.5920 |
1083 | | 1648.2122 | I got all new living room furniture. I got all the liquor you need. | 1652.4263 |
1085 | | 1652.7946 | They was selling liquor on the corner. | 1654.8976 |
1087 | | 1655.2427 | They was selling liquor on Sundays. | 1657.2850 |
1089 | | 1657.8434 | All of this from | 1658.8599 |
1091 | | 1659.6806 | King getting killed. | 1660.9582 |
1093 | | 1661.6064 | It was crazy. | 1662.6197 |
1095 | | 1663.5357 | You couldn't come out the house after five o'clock | 1665.9697 |
1097 | | 1666.4919 | unless you had a pass that you on your way to work | 1669.0099 |
1099 | | 1669.5730 | or you went to jail. | 1670.7060 |
1101 | | 1671.9510 | They had all the military men staying in our gyms. | 1675.0845 |
1103 | | 1675.5123 | You know, we j- we- we couldn't even take gym for months and months and months because | 1679.5458 |
1105 | | 1680.3618 | that's where the military men slept. | 1682.4076 |
1107 | | 1683.4661 | They're monitor the streets after five o'clock | 1685.5970 |
1109 | | 1685.7696 | w- we not supposed to be out there. | 1687.5030 |
1111 | | 1688.9532 | It was- | 1689.3868 |
1113 | | 1689.5314 | It was a process. | 1690.9116 |
1115 | | 1691.2940 | You know (laughing). | 1691.9981 |
1117 | | 1692.7103 | And then you look around, you be like, | 1694.0812 |
1119 | | 1694.5102 | damn. | 1694.8366 |
1121 | | 1695.5393 | /Some/ good looking men up in there, and we can't go in there and play with 'em? <laugh> | 1699.9040 |
1122 | DCB_int_01 | 1699.8832 | [<laugh>] | 1703.5831 |
1123 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1700.3373 | [<laugh>] | 1703.1418 |
1124 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1701.9557 | [<laugh>] With benefits. | 1704.6415 |
1125 | DCB_int_01 | 1704.6788 | [<laugh> Benefits.] | 1706.9578 |
1126 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1705.1533 | [<laugh>] | 1706.1885 |
1128 | | 1706.7760 | [Yes.] | 1708.0350 |
1129 | DCB_int_01 | 1707.1444 | [Yes. Thank] you. | 1708.4640 |
1130 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1708.8277 | [Mm.] | 1709.3639 |
1131 | DCB_int_01 | 1708.8277 | [Um], | 1709.3639 |
1132 | | 1709.5318 | what about, | 1710.1379 |
1133 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1710.2545 | <laugh> | 1710.8607 |
1134 | DCB_int_01 | 1710.9306 | do you remember the Civil like- | 1711.9740 |
1136 | | 1712.2910 | the Civil Rights, like, | 1713.4066 |
1138 | | 1713.6934 | you lived that time. | 1715.0736 |
1140 | | 1715.3627 | That ain't something you | 1716.0056 |
1142 | | 1716.3950 | read in a history book. That wa- you were alive in that whole- | 1719.7400 |
1144 | | 1720.7845 | You [were younger.] | 1721.4939 |
1145 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1720.9011 | [Yeah.] | 1721.2695 |
1146 | | 1721.5586 | <clears throat> | 1721.6332 |
1148 | | 1721.8518 | Yeah, but | 1722.5652 |
1150 | | 1722.6748 | the only thing that I- that really stands out in my mind as far as, um, | 1726.3975 |
1152 | | 1726.5094 | prejudice, | 1727.2228 |
1154 | | 1728.9079 | my dad took me, | 1730.4327 |
1156 | | 1731.2901 | my mom, my sister, and all of us to the beach. | 1734.3105 |
1158 | | 1735.0659 | And they said everybody could come in there- no. | 1737.5267 |
1160 | | 1738.0583 | Nobody's coming in there but my mom. | 1740.0260 |
1162 | | 1742.9485 | My mom is | 1744.5013 |
1164 | | 1746.4364 | part Sicilian so she looks white. | 1748.6607 |
1166 | | 1750.8463 | So | 1751.6623 |
1168 | | 1752.5763 | when they said that, | 1753.7688 |
1170 | | 1754.5335 | my daddy got mad and spit on the man. | 1757.5038 |
1172 | | 1759.2932 | The man hit my daddy, | 1760.9578 |
1174 | | 1761.7459 | and my daddy commenced to try to kill him. | 1764.0260 |
1176 | | 1766.2677 | They locked my dad up. | 1767.6480 |
1178 | | 1768.2821 | We had to call my grandmother come get us from the beach. | 1770.8887 |
1180 | | 1773.2796 | I don't remember, | 1774.5013 |
1182 | | 1775.3173 | um, | 1775.8302 |
1184 | | 1776.2732 | white and black water fountains. I don't remember having to sit in the back of the bus. | 1780.8758 |
1186 | | 1781.9188 | That was before my time. | 1783.4995 |
1188 | | 1784.4030 | Even being born nineteen fifty four, it sound like a lot of stuff was going on, but I was never | 1788.6462 |
1190 | | 1789.0985 | around it. | 1789.7932 |
1192 | | 1791.8158 | Because all my m- | 1792.7018 |
1194 | | 1793.0188 | all the women in my family look white, and they had the blackest men you ever seen in your life. | 1797.4460 |
1196 | | 1798.1329 | All of 'em. | 1798.7997 |
1198 | | 1799.2613 | I'm like, | 1799.6297 |
1200 | | 1799.8115 | all my aunts got jet black men. | 1801.9087 |
1202 | | 1803.7179 | And then they stand there just as fuzzy white looking as they could be. | 1806.7395 |
1204 | | 1807.7268 | And people thought | 1808.9951 |
1206 | | 1809.2982 | that, um, | 1810.4267 |
1208 | | 1811.5691 | my mom was white and she was dating a bunch of black men. | 1813.8108 |
1210 | | 1815.6060 | So therefore, a lot of kids in the neighborhood, we were not allowed to play with. | 1820.4496 |
1211 | DCB_int_01 | 1821.5547 | [Because they thought y'all] were biracial. | 1823.1261 |
1212 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1821.5594 | [You know what I'm saying?] | 1822.4406 |
1213 | | 1823.2940 | Yeah. | 1823.7136 |
1215 | | 1824.3851 | That woman down there got them niggas hanging all up in there. | 1827.2190 |
1217 | | 1827.8065 | I don't want my kids playing with them half | 1830.1659 |
1219 | | 1830.6788 | breed kids. I said, we weren't half breed though. | 1833.1817 |
1221 | | 1834.3287 | My brother is your complexion. | 1836.4877 |
1223 | | 1837.5170 | My older brother- my younger brother is | 1840.2075 |
1225 | | 1840.6738 | darker than me, | 1841.7789 |
1227 | | 1842.2872 | and my sister was darker than me. | 1843.8947 |
1229 | | 1845.0698 | So how we biracial? You know? | 1846.9629 |
1231 | | 1847.2706 | It was crazy. | 1848.1892 |
1233 | | 1848.4224 | But that was Virginia. | 1849.5664 |
1235 | | 1850.0206 | The common wealth. | 1850.9886 |
1236 | DCB_int_01 | 1851.7319 | What part of- do you- this was- you were still in Roanoke at this [point?] | 1854.1613 |
1237 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1853.9048 | [Mm-hm.] | 1854.3105 |
1238 | DCB_int_01 | 1854.5191 | Mm-hm. | 1854.9295 |
1239 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1855.2139 | It was crazy. | 1856.2817 |
1241 | | 1856.8319 | People just didn't want us to play with their children | 1859.3266 |
1243 | | 1859.6017 | or the white people would let us play with their children. We ain't wanna play with them. | 1863.5733 |
1245 | | 1864.7391 | It was just | 1865.7090 |
1247 | | 1865.8442 | crazy. So | 1867.0052 |
1249 | | 1867.2804 | it just g- I remember a point in time when we only | 1869.7505 |
1251 | | 1870.2308 | hung out with family. | 1871.4012 |
1253 | | 1872.9773 | On Saturdays, everybody went to Grandma's to get their hair done. She was a hairdresser. | 1877.6733 |
1255 | | 1878.4399 | So all the little girls in the family would go up | 1880.8739 |
1257 | | 1881.2516 | my grandmother's house and get their hair done. | 1883.6250 |
1259 | | 1884.1286 | And we played all day long. | 1885.6767 |
1261 | | 1886.6361 | Sunday, you had to go to church. | 1888.4640 |
1263 | | 1889.4711 | So during the week, you did nothing but go to school and study. | 1892.0486 |
1265 | | 1894.6225 | That was it. | 1895.2333 |
1267 | | 1896.1100 | And then Mama not having a man in the house, well- | 1898.5941 |
1269 | | 1899.6340 | except the ones that she was dating, | 1901.8768 |
1271 | | 1902.4504 | um, | 1903.0414 |
1273 | | 1903.7455 | it was really nothing to do but | 1905.5687 |
1275 | | 1906.0536 | for a single mom, | 1907.8069 |
1277 | | 1908.8782 | we had everything we needed or wanted, | 1910.9672 |
1279 | | 1911.2003 | you know. | 1911.6992 |
1281 | | 1914.1892 | That's why | 1914.9959 |
1283 | | 1915.4284 | I just- you know, me and my mom didn't always have a good relationship, | 1919.2240 |
1285 | | 1919.9234 | but for her to be a single mom, | 1921.6429 |
1287 | | 1921.7781 | I | 1922.0952 |
1289 | | 1922.5428 | think that now at this age that I am, I respect the fact that she was able to do what she did by herself. | 1929.1117 |
1291 | | 1930.1935 | Because me and my husband /scuffled/ to raise our children. | 1933.8248 |
1293 | | 1934.2864 | She raised three kids by herself. | 1936.3427 |
1295 | | 1936.8929 | I mean, yeah, granted she had a lot of men coming and going. | 1939.9180 |
1297 | | 1940.2771 | Uh, | 1940.5801 |
1299 | | 1941.7086 | but she did what she had to do for her children, | 1943.8022 |
1301 | | 1943.9561 | you know. | 1944.3804 |
1303 | | 1944.7068 | So, | 1945.0659 |
1305 | | 1945.5636 | mm. | 1945.8574 |
1307 | | 1946.9812 | Til she married that idiot that brought us up here. | 1949.7578 |
1309 | | 1952.0812 | Mm. | 1952.5492 |
1310 | DCB_int_01 | 1954.2308 | So you left- | 1955.1028 |
1312 | | 1955.5318 | I wanna go back to Florida Avenue cause I wanna | 1957.8947 |
1314 | | 1958.3750 | talk about how you transitioned. | 1959.7785 |
1316 | | 1960.0863 | So when you left Florida Avenue, that was, you said, the early two thousands. | 1963.1580 |
1317 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1963.4331 | Mm-hm. | 1963.8434 |
1318 | DCB_int_01 | 1963.8714 | And then you moved to Hillcrest. | 1965.4661 |
1319 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1966.6132 | Yeah. | 1966.9862 |
1320 | DCB_int_01 | 1967.8255 | And why did you decide [to move to that-] | 1969.1895 |
1321 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1968.5331 | [No I think it was] ninety five. | 1970.4962 |
1322 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1972.1003 | When, uh, we moved [over there.] | 1973.5224 |
1323 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1972.7950 | [Ninety six], cause remember, my eighth birthday party, when I had the moon bounce, the clown, the pony. | 1977.3122 |
1324 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1978.3147 | What year was that? | 1979.3219 |
1325 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1979.4711 | I was- that was ninety eight. | 1980.3757 |
1327 | | 1982.8692 | But that's when I had | 1983.5967 |
1329 | | 1983.7226 | the whole carnival. | 1984.6971 |
1330 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1984.6971 | That's all that was. | 1986.1659 |
1331 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 1986.2545 | That was my eighth. | 1986.9252 |
1333 | | 1987.7035 | But- And I was /there/- we was at /RD-ADDRESS-8/. That was my Disney World party. | 1991.5271 |
1335 | | 1991.9468 | We was living | 1992.6462 |
1337 | | 1992.8502 | on /RD-ADDRESS-4/. | 1993.6755 |
1339 | | 1995.5221 | I think we left | 1996.2914 |
1341 | | 1997.2333 | after my mom [/graduated high-/.] | 1998.7115 |
1342 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 1997.6204 | [/RD-NAME-2/ I got married] in nineteen eighty, | 1999.7500 |
1343 | | 2000.7340 | okay? | 2001.1863 |
1345 | | 2001.7039 | You was born in what? | 2002.7906 |
1346 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2003.1634 | Ninety. | 2003.6474 |
1348 | | 2004.1986 | My mom graduated high school in ninety four. | 2006.1512 |
1350 | | 2006.7433 | I think we- | 2007.4708 |
1352 | | 2007.6837 | I think you moved Thirtieth Street in ninety five, | 2009.5458 |
1354 | | 2009.8349 | ninety six. | 2010.4737 |
1355 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2010.8280 | No, I moved on Thirtieth Street like two thousand three, | 2013.4734 |
1357 | | 2013.7878 | two thousand two. | 2014.8790 |
1358 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2015.8255 | Mkay. | 2016.2778 |
1359 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2016.3897 | Mkay. | 2016.7301 |
1361 | | 2017.5823 | Is that good? | 2018.1418 |
1362 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2018.4916 | No! My eighth birthday party | 2020.2262 |
1364 | | 2020.4826 | was the | 2021.1774 |
1366 | | 2021.3546 | carnival. | 2022.0307 |
1368 | | 2023.3864 | In the back yard. You remember that? | 2024.8926 |
1369 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2024.8879 | And what year was that? | 2025.9137 |
1370 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2025.9324 | Ninety eight. | 2026.7531 |
1371 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2027.7090 | Oh damn. | 2028.7290 |
1373 | | 2030.0626 | Well maybe I moved over there in ninety. | 2031.9091 |
1375 | | 2032.3008 | No, ninety two or ninety three [then.] | 2034.3757 |
1376 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2033.9421 | [Mm-hm.] | 2034.4131 |
1377 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2034.5902 | Okay. | 2034.9539 |
1378 | DCB_int_01 | 2035.1999 | Okay. | 2035.6196 |
1379 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2035.7828 | That's [that.] | 2036.2584 |
1380 | DCB_int_01 | 2035.9600 | [So early] nineties. | 2037.2423 |
1381 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2037.3495 | Yeah. | 2037.7832 |
1382 | DCB_int_01 | 2037.8065 | So what made you move? | 2039.0172 |
1384 | | 2039.4245 | Cause you went [from-] | 2040.2265 |
1385 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2039.9328 | [It was] so bad. I mean, | 2041.8108 |
1386 | | 2042.7620 | um, | 2043.5873 |
1388 | | 2044.7111 | my youngest son was selling- both my boys were selling drugs. My daughter was around there with her camera taking pictures of the drugs to show to me and my husb- | 2052.5856 |
1390 | | 2052.9633 | husband. [Um], | 2054.3377 |
1391 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2053.6710 | [/Hiding drugs/ in my] stroller. | 2055.0013 |
1392 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2056.4873 | On hiding drugs in /RD-NAME-2/'s stroller, taking her down to the corner. | 2060.4433 |
1394 | | 2061.1304 | It was terrible over there. | 2063.1074 |
1396 | | 2063.6157 | I remember one night, my son- my youngest son came in the house, and I heard him screaming. | 2068.1189 |
1398 | | 2068.7764 | And my husband saying, | 2069.8675 |
1400 | | 2070.3571 | come back here. I want my mama. I want my mama. | 2073.1257 |
1402 | | 2073.8086 | So he came in the bedroom, my husband was behind him. | 2076.3208 |
1404 | | 2076.8104 | He had a big bag, | 2078.4144 |
1406 | | 2079.5382 | and it had money, drugs, and a beeper in there. | 2082.0830 |
1408 | | 2082.1995 | Cause when I took the bag and dumped it on my bed, and I'm like, what is this thing? | 2086.0697 |
1410 | | 2087.0583 | And he said, it's a beeper. And I said, what is a beeper? | 2089.1741 |
1412 | | 2089.2860 | I didn't know. | 2089.9575 |
1414 | | 2090.7128 | And, um, that's when I found out that's how you | 2092.7832 |
1416 | | 2092.9137 | contacted drug dealers, and | 2095.0529 |
1418 | | 2095.5238 | he said, mom, /finally/, | 2096.5780 |
1420 | | 2096.7175 | if I stop selling drugs, | 2098.1537 |
1422 | | 2098.2329 | the guy gonna kill me. | 2099.3241 |
1424 | | 2100.8850 | What guy? So, | 2101.8968 |
1426 | | 2102.2699 | we went around, me and my son, | 2104.1070 |
1428 | | 2104.4381 | and my husband went around the guy's house, nobody opened the door. | 2107.1508 |
1430 | | 2107.5611 | So I took the drugs and the money and the beeper down to the, um, | 2111.1562 |
1432 | | 2111.9629 | narcotics unit with the police department, | 2114.4098 |
1434 | | 2115.0952 | telling them to please save my son. They're gonna kill him if he stops selling drugs. | 2119.4445 |
1436 | | 2119.8689 | This is what he gave me, | 2121.4169 |
1438 | | 2121.9112 | and it was like, | 2122.5314 |
1440 | | 2122.9930 | eighteen hundred dollars in there. And you know back in the day, that was a lot of m- | 2126.3818 |
1441 | DCB_int_01 | 2126.1175 | [Lot of m-] | 2126.5435 |
1442 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2126.5683 | I had five dollars in my pocket, | 2128.5873 |
1444 | | 2129.0163 | but I refused to s- | 2130.0981 |
1446 | | 2130.2415 | spend drug money | 2131.3559 |
1448 | | 2131.7430 | from my kids. | 2132.6242 |
1450 | | 2133.6641 | That wasn't a good | 2134.6200 |
1452 | | 2136.1074 | thing for them to see. | 2137.2114 |
1454 | | 2137.3793 | Well it's alright if she's spending the money too. No, hell no, n- n- Mama ain't spend nothing. Mama gave that to the police. I want you to see this. | 2144.6809 |
1456 | | 2144.7828 | You know? | 2145.3004 |
1458 | | 2145.7713 | It was just | 2146.6153 |
1460 | | 2146.8718 | too much. | 2147.5199 |
1462 | | 2149.1321 | It was too much, so we decided that we wanted to move. | 2152.4381 |
1464 | | 2153.3287 | So one day I told my husband- I said, let me show you this house I | 2156.4937 |
1466 | | 2156.6429 | always wanted to live in. | 2158.1210 |
1468 | | 2159.0490 | They got a maid and a butler. | 2160.8069 |
1470 | | 2161.5145 | These were white people, | 2162.8807 |
1472 | | 2163.3004 | and | 2163.5708 |
1474 | | 2163.7107 | I- | 2163.7946 |
1476 | | 2163.8832 | let's just go. I wanna sh- you to see the house. Well girl, we rode around there, and it was a for sale sign in the yard. | 2169.5988 |
1478 | | 2170.9790 | And that's where I moved to. | 2172.0795 |
1480 | | 2173.0995 | Up here on Thirtieth Street. | 2174.4098 |
1482 | | 2175.3190 | And | 2175.6781 |
1484 | | 2176.6573 | it was something about that house. Every time I rode past it, they had the- | 2180.2139 |
1486 | | 2180.5357 | the curtains open, it was beautiful in there. | 2183.1049 |
1488 | | 2183.7344 | And that was my dream house. | 2185.6677 |
1490 | | 2186.2745 | When I took my mom around there to sho- I didn't tell her where I was moving. I said, | 2189.7904 |
1492 | | 2189.8929 | I want you to see the house I'm buying. | 2191.4678 |
1494 | | 2191.9948 | She just started crying. She said, you always wanted that house. | 2194.8811 |
1496 | | 2196.4886 | Who does that? | 2197.4678 |
1498 | | 2198.7548 | You know, as a kid, you want this house. | 2201.1795 |
1500 | | 2201.6924 | As an adult, you go show it to somebody /s-/ | 2203.7756 |
1502 | | 2204.2792 | So, | 2204.8434 |
1504 | | 2205.0299 | when we | 2205.5801 |
1506 | | 2205.8879 | parked the car, he went that way. I went that way. We met in the backyard and rolled in the grass say, we claiming this. | 2211.8832 |
1508 | | 2213.6505 | And I lived there for twenty two years til he passed away. | 2216.6849 |
1510 | | 2218.8438 | <ts> | 2218.9650 |
1512 | | 2219.1329 | Yep. | 2219.3567 |
1513 | DCB_int_01 | 2220.0876 | So how did you feel when you found out you were having a granddaughter? | 2222.6242 |
1515 | | 2222.8376 | Well, | 2223.0451 |
1517 | | 2223.2596 | you didn't know she was a granddaughter at that point, but. | 2225.0542 |
1518 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2225.5718 | When I found out her mother was pregnant at thirteen? | 2227.8706 |
1519 | DCB_int_01 | 2227.9190 | Mm-hm. | 2228.3666 |
1520 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2228.9845 | I was hurt. | 2229.6396 |
1522 | | 2231.1766 | She had just gradu- her mother had just graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ school, | 2235.1261 |
1524 | | 2236.4772 | and | 2237.2186 |
1526 | | 2237.9507 | the school called me. | 2239.2936 |
1528 | | 2240.6458 | So I told my coworker. I said, | 2242.3046 |
1530 | | 2242.5145 | <sigh> | 2242.9201 |
1532 | | 2243.1719 | /RD-NAME-2/ pregnant. | 2244.0812 |
1534 | | 2245.0837 | She said, you know, /RD-NAME-2/ ain't doing nothing like that. I said, this is the worst thing that can happen, so I gotta get- digest this, | 2250.1651 |
1536 | | 2250.7294 | and whatever else | 2251.5454 |
1538 | | 2251.7599 | behind it I can handle. Well soon as I get there, /RD-NAME-2/ pregnant. | 2255.5496 |
1540 | | 2258.1982 | I mean what could I do? I had to deal with it. | 2260.2067 |
1542 | | 2260.4072 | How pregnant are you? | 2261.7455 |
1544 | | 2262.2164 | She was about | 2262.9159 |
1546 | | 2264.0816 | seven months. | 2265.0919 |
1548 | | 2267.2092 | And | 2267.8061 |
1550 | | 2268.0486 | I'm like, I just saw you naked this morning. | 2270.4593 |
1552 | | 2272.4632 | Still wasn't show- that baby was in her back. | 2274.8273 |
1554 | | 2275.0185 | Looked like the day after I found out she was pregnant, everything popped out this away. | 2278.5891 |
1556 | | 2279.6616 | But | 2280.0299 |
1558 | | 2280.6734 | the day that I found out she was pregnant, I got five speeding tickets. | 2284.3839 |
1560 | | 2284.9854 | I was just aimlessly running through DC trying to find a doctor to take care of my grandbaby. | 2289.9922 |
1562 | | 2292.4263 | What was I gonna hit her for? | 2293.5220 |
1564 | | 2293.6573 | Baby wasn't gonna go away. | 2294.8650 |
1566 | | 2295.6565 | I ain't gonna hit her. | 2296.2580 |
1568 | | 2296.9062 | You go to jail for that. I'm no- uh-uh. | 2298.9812 |
1570 | | 2299.6200 | We going to get you s- straight. | 2301.2706 |
1572 | | 2301.9736 | And then when the- | 2302.6823 |
1574 | | 2303.0740 | I remember the day that it hit me I had to raise another baby. | 2306.1982 |
1576 | | 2308.1088 | I was boohooing at my desk. My coworker said, what in the world just happened? I said, girl I'm getting ready to raise a baby. | 2313.3266 |
1578 | | 2314.2953 | And | 2314.8875 |
1580 | | 2316.2270 | the night she was born, | 2318.0756 |
1582 | | 2320.0622 | it was m- my daughter and I had our | 2321.7874 |
1584 | | 2321.9507 | first real serious conversation because I told her, | 2325.6297 |
1586 | | 2326.1787 | you know, black people don't give no baby away. | 2328.1092 |
1588 | | 2328.9438 | And I always wanted another kid, but I wasn't willing to give birth to it. | 2332.4725 |
1590 | | 2333.9740 | So | 2334.5848 |
1592 | | 2335.2469 | I said, | 2335.9837 |
1594 | | 2336.8079 | are you gonna keep this baby or we giving it up for adoption? You know that baby coming here and you need to make a decision. | 2342.9209 |
1596 | | 2343.7777 | And she said, Ma, don't make me give my baby away. We started crying. Okay, we having a baby. We gonna keep the baby. We w- we went through our thing. | 2350.3513 |
1598 | | 2352.3843 | So of course, soon as the baby born, | 2354.4406 |
1600 | | 2354.5945 | the doctor that delivered her w- | 2356.7709 |
1602 | | 2356.9295 | lived in my neighborhood. | 2358.1838 |
1604 | | 2359.1350 | That's the only doctor I could get that- | 2360.8277 |
1606 | | 2361.3488 | by her being so far gone and being so young that would even | 2364.3330 |
1608 | | 2364.6268 | look at my daughter. | 2365.6013 |
1610 | | 2366.3381 | So, um, | 2367.2566 |
1612 | | 2368.5005 | as soon as the baby was born, | 2370.3144 |
1614 | | 2371.1210 | came out of my daughter into my arms. | 2373.3254 |
1616 | | 2373.4607 | Why you do that? | 2374.2394 |
1618 | | 2375.3911 | I fell in love. | 2376.9535 |
1619 | DCB_int_01 | 2377.1013 | Yeah. | 2377.4956 |
1620 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2379.6518 | I told her, I don't care what you do. This mine, right here. | 2382.0859 |
1622 | | 2383.0931 | You know? | 2383.7226 |
1624 | | 2384.1515 | That was the prettiest baby in the world | 2386.5145 |
1626 | | 2386.7150 | til /RD-NAME-2/ came. | 2387.6802 |
1628 | | 2388.1092 | I'm just kidding. [<laugh>] | 2391.9234 |
1629 | DCB_int_01 | 2388.9812 | [<laugh> (clapping)] | 2392.3186 |
1630 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2391.4616 | [<laugh>] | 2392.4696 |
1631 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2393.1372 | But I always wanted another little girl. | 2395.3682 |
1633 | | 2395.7645 | Sometimes you got to be careful what you ask for. | 2398.0249 |
1634 | DCB_int_01 | 2398.1927 | Cause you might get it. | 2399.0274 |
1635 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2399.0321 | Cause you might get it, | 2399.9087 |
1637 | | 2400.1558 | you know. | 2400.7014 |
1639 | | 2401.4288 | And | 2401.9650 |
1641 | | 2403.0981 | my daughter'll tell you, the first day /RD-NAME-2/ told me she loved me, I had to take off of work. | 2407.0697 |
1643 | | 2408.8172 | I got weak in the knees, girl. | 2410.3186 |
1645 | | 2411.8667 | I said, say it again. | 2413.1024 |
1647 | | 2413.5267 | I said, you ain't going to babysitter, I ain't going to work. We just gonna love each other all day. | 2418.2584 |
1649 | | 2418.4915 | That's what we did. | 2419.2936 |
1651 | | 2420.3660 | We been in love ever since. | 2421.7742 |
1653 | | 2422.7756 | Right? | 2423.0321 |
1654 | DCB_int_01 | 2425.3262 | So that's your other daughter? | 2426.4369 |
1655 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2426.8603 | Mm-hm. | 2427.3301 |
1657 | | 2428.8922 | Mm-hm. | 2429.2605 |
1659 | | 2429.3445 | Yeah I took everybody to court, and then she was on this side and me and my husband on this side. We adopted. | 2433.7089 |
1661 | | 2435.9227 | Mm-hm. Because, | 2437.1583 |
1663 | | 2437.7832 | first off, my daughter is- | 2439.6250 |
1665 | | 2440.7989 | She can be kind of | 2441.8387 |
1667 | | 2443.7738 | mean or | 2444.9442 |
1669 | | 2445.3861 | I don't know what the word to describe that thing. | 2447.4564 |
1671 | | 2448.1791 | But | 2448.4729 |
1673 | | 2448.7946 | I said she'll never get mad at me and take this baby. | 2452.0715 |
1675 | | 2452.9528 | Cause if she do I'm'a have her ass locked up. | 2454.8226 |
1677 | | 2456.6458 | Sh- | 2456.8743 |
1679 | | 2457.1716 | She too young to even have her /shot/- | 2459.1999 |
1681 | | 2459.3818 | M- /I signed/ for her to get the /shot/. What she gonna do with her? | 2461.7319 |
1683 | | 2462.6738 | So I need to protect this baby, | 2464.5551 |
1685 | | 2465.2699 | adopt her, | 2466.4076 |
1687 | | 2466.9205 | and let /RD-NAME-2/ know, | 2468.0490 |
1689 | | 2468.8043 | if you get mad at me and take this baby, you going to jail. | 2471.9180 |
1691 | | 2474.4360 | What else was I supposed to do? | 2475.6099 |
1693 | | 2477.2605 | Til you get twenty one, graduate from college, get married, whatever, | 2480.6085 |
1695 | | 2480.9862 | give her the lifestyle she accustomed to- | 2482.9528 |
1697 | | 2483.3118 | But I knew she couldn't touch the lifestyle this thing was accustomed to this, I remember going in Hecht's, | 2487.7463 |
1699 | | 2488.5145 | and Hecht's ain't have nothing in there she ain't already have. | 2491.5267 |
1701 | | 2492.3966 | I remember going in Lord and Taylor's. L- L- | 2494.3084 |
1703 | | 2495.0731 | /RD-NAME-2/ wore the best of everything. And then at first- | 2498.3780 |
1705 | | 2498.9608 | And then once /RD-NAME-2/ got a little older, | 2500.8586 |
1707 | | 2501.6315 | I would buy their clothes at- I forgot that store. I'd dress 'em alike. | 2504.8722 |
1709 | | 2506.4716 | Both 'em had the same Reeboks. | 2508.0430 |
1711 | | 2508.6061 | Both of 'em had on their- their designer clothes. | 2511.4513 |
1713 | | 2511.9400 | But if I couldn't afford for one, I ain't buying for nobody. | 2514.8066 |
1714 | DCB_int_01 | 2515.3611 | Mm-hm. | 2515.9651 |
1715 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2516.2095 | /Cause they ain't about two of them/. | 2518.0613 |
1717 | | 2518.6954 | My girls. | 2519.6268 |
1719 | | 2521.6552 | Mm-hm. | 2522.4479 |
1720 | DCB_int_01 | 2524.0426 | And so then you moved over here. | 2525.7341 |
1722 | | 2525.9859 | Has it been different, | 2527.0257 |
1724 | | 2527.4361 | um, | 2527.7625 |
1726 | | 2527.9117 | this- cause this is not- | 2529.1054 |
1728 | | 2529.5250 | this is a very different neighborhood. | 2531.2410 |
1729 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2531.4182 | Mm-hm. | 2532.0710 |
1731 | | 2532.6434 | Very small. | 2534.1355 |
1733 | | 2535.2505 | Well actually, | 2536.5462 |
1735 | | 2537.1944 | um, they started | 2538.4114 |
1737 | | 2538.5827 | doing all of this renovation and tearing down over there where I was living. I had a beautiful home over there, | 2544.4067 |
1739 | | 2545.3148 | but, | 2545.5988 |
1741 | | 2545.9769 | you know, when they tearing down and rebuilding, you get mice. | 2548.6674 |
1742 | DCB_int_01 | 2549.3902 | [Mm-hm.] | 2549.8751 |
1743 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2549.5114 | [And I'm] scared to death of 'em. I let them be homeowners. | 2552.1402 |
1744 | | 2553.0914 | I said, I got to go (laughing). | 2554.2338 |
1746 | | 2554.8493 | It was too many of 'em. | 2556.0010 |
1748 | | 2556.7366 | This boy would come over there and kill mice or get 'em out the house for me every day. | 2561.3941 |
1750 | | 2561.8658 | Every day that trap had mice in it. I had to leave. | 2564.9142 |
1752 | | 2565.6556 | I'm scared of mice. | 2566.7001 |
1754 | | 2567.3109 | /If m-/ too many of y'all, and it's just one of me, y'all got it. | 2570.5925 |
1756 | | 2571.1660 | So when I found this place, I was like, okay. | 2574.2703 |
1758 | | 2575.2542 | <ts> | 2575.3241 |
1760 | | 2575.3661 | I got underground parking. | 2576.8629 |
1762 | | 2578.9519 | I'm right here at the elevator. | 2580.4848 |
1764 | | 2581.2076 | When I get off the elevator down in the garage, my car is right there. | 2585.0498 |
1766 | | 2587.3801 | Two bedrooms, two bathrooms. | 2589.1800 |
1768 | | 2589.7022 | Um, when /RD-NAME-2/ come home, she'll have a home that she ain't got to be afraid in as- | 2594.3500 |
1770 | | 2594.5645 | as I was. | 2595.6556 |
1772 | | 2596.4529 | And it was more building for her to come home from college | 2600.2894 |
1774 | | 2601.1194 | and have a decent home | 2602.8213 |
1776 | | 2603.4601 | to come home to, | 2604.4020 |
1778 | | 2604.6807 | you know. | 2605.1190 |
1780 | | 2605.7205 | Because I'm'a tell you I was scared to death in that house. Them damn mice, man. | 2609.7539 |
1782 | | 2610.8858 | I mean, it was just like- and my son was paying a hundred and fifty dollars a week- | 2614.4529 |
1784 | | 2614.8913 | No, every two weeks, | 2615.9666 |
1786 | | 2616.4335 | for exterminator, | 2617.5853 |
1788 | | 2618.1821 | and it wasn't killing nothing. | 2619.6648 |
1789 | DCB_int_01 | 2620.1825 | Mm-hm. | 2620.5506 |
1790 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2621.0311 | I said, oh no, I can't do this no more. I was living in the bedroom and | 2624.5412 |
1792 | | 2625.1333 | came home one day and the daggone mouse was climbing up the curtain. That was it for me. | 2629.5235 |
1794 | | 2630.3966 | I had to go. | 2631.1707 |
1795 | DCB_int_01 | 2632.2664 | So when, | 2632.8679 |
1797 | | 2633.4741 | um, | 2634.0104 |
1799 | | 2634.4335 | for /RD-NAME-3/ you- you made sure she went to college. | 2636.9795 |
1801 | | 2637.3059 | Was that really important to you? | 2638.7187 |
1802 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2639.9637 | Hm. | 2640.4102 |
1804 | | 2640.9977 | I ain't care. | 2641.8744 |
1806 | | 2643.6369 | I said, I went through two winters with no heat. | 2646.3134 |
1808 | | 2647.8977 | Make sure she had what she needed. | 2649.7395 |
1810 | | 2651.2456 | <sigh> | 2651.6886 |
1812 | | 2655.0075 | I didn't pay my car notes. I didn't pay my insurance. | 2658.1642 |
1814 | | 2658.7273 | Yeah, I paid my car notes. I didn't have no insurance on my car. | 2661.5390 |
1816 | | 2662.9099 | I just wanted her- | 2663.9404 |
1818 | | 2664.4708 | I wanted to make sure that she had the lifestyle that she had if her granddaddy was here. | 2668.6581 |
1820 | | 2669.6373 | You know? | 2670.1129 |
1822 | | 2670.7972 | If she called and said, Grandma, I need a suit. | 2673.2359 |
1824 | | 2674.6348 | What I pay for that suit? | 2675.7213 |
1826 | | 2677.0257 | They got you in trouble. | 2678.1728 |
1828 | | 2678.8256 | Something like four hundred dollars for a suit, | 2680.9239 |
1830 | | 2681.8751 | and everybody got mad at hers cause theirs was eighty dollars, and, | 2685.3665 |
1832 | | 2685.8421 | you know, | 2686.3923 |
1834 | | 2686.8726 | I- | 2687.3762 |
1836 | | 2687.6700 | /RD-NAME-2/ always had the best of everything. | 2689.8286 |
1838 | | 2690.8023 | She still get the best- | 2691.8421 |
1840 | | 2693.0078 | You can't give /RD-NAME-2/ just anything. | 2695.3759 |
1842 | | 2696.8396 | She ain't gonna take it | 2697.6636 |
1844 | | 2697.9633 | cause /RD-NAME-2/ is used to /part time/ quality stuff. | 2700.2563 |
1846 | | 2700.6014 | This thing too. | 2701.4780 |
1848 | | 2704.8400 | And I remember she came home, brought her little boyfriend with her one time. He got scared cause the mice ran him out of there too. | 2711.0311 |
1850 | | 2711.9544 | And I did not want her to finish school and come into that envi- | 2715.1567 |
1852 | | 2715.2779 | I wasn't gonna stay there no way, so | 2716.8913 |
1854 | | 2717.3529 | that didn't make no difference. I [was done with it.] | 2719.5340 |
1855 | DCB_int_01 | 2718.7853 | [<laugh>] | 2719.9892 |
1856 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2719.7625 | [Me and] /RD-NAME-2/ were tired of chasing mice, wasn't we? | 2722.1265 |
1857 | | 2724.0243 | And | 2724.4114 |
1859 | | 2724.8718 | you know, all my grandchildren say I love him more | 2727.7349 |
1861 | | 2727.9307 | than anybody else. | 2729.3482 |
1863 | | 2730.1444 | But /RD-NAME-2/ was there. | 2731.6972 |
1865 | | 2731.9117 | /RD-NAME-2/ would spend the night with me and say, | 2733.8468 |
1867 | | 2734.5602 | Ma, I'm'a stay with Grandma cause I don't want her in here with them mice by herself. | 2737.9909 |
1869 | | 2738.0935 | And he would spend the night with me every night. | 2739.7535 |
1871 | | 2741.3762 | And I still appreciate that because for him to be so young | 2744.9235 |
1873 | | 2745.5157 | and to | 2746.1032 |
1875 | | 2746.2245 | think like he was thinking, I needed that. | 2748.2936 |
1877 | | 2748.7180 | Nobody else was doing it. | 2750.0189 |
1879 | | 2750.1635 | /RD-NAME-2/ was doing it. | 2751.2779 |
1881 | | 2751.6463 | That's why /RD-NAME-2/ w- | 2752.7514 |
1883 | | 2753.1710 | I don't say no to /RD-NAME-2/. | 2754.4708 |
1885 | | 2756.5178 | Very s- if I don't have it, I don't have it. | 2758.7327 |
1887 | | 2759.3389 | But if it's something that he wants or he needs- | 2762.0314 |
1889 | | 2762.6391 | Me and /RD-NAME-2/ got it going on. /RD-NAME-3/ call me and tell me she getting ready beat /RD-NAME-2/. | 2766.3636 |
1891 | | 2766.6667 | I go around there and get him. | 2767.6505 |
1892 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 2768.7696 | <laugh> | 2769.5623 |
1893 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2770.2245 | How many times I done- don't I come around your house? | 2772.2330 |
1894 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 2772.3356 | I remember that night she done beat me for some, uh, alcohol. | 2774.8769 |
1896 | | 2775.1800 | <ts> | 2775.3292 |
1898 | | 2775.6043 | Man. | 2776.1452 |
1899 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2776.5415 | Mm-hm. | 2776.9799 |
1900 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 2777.1885 | Grandma bought the bottle of alcohol and took me with her. | 2778.8998 |
1901 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2779.1982 | I wanted cigarettes and alcohol and took /RD-NAME-2/. | 2781.3105 |
1903 | | 2782.6488 | You remember that night? | 2783.6746 |
1904 | DCB_int_01 | 2786.8629 | So- | 2787.2453 |
1905 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2787.3152 | This one right here is- | 2788.7607 |
1907 | | 2789.2037 | that's my heart. | 2789.9358 |
1908 | DCB_int_01 | 2791.0537 | It sounds like both of 'em. | 2792.2474 |
1909 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2792.7976 | But she [has ten grandkids.] | 2794.7933 |
1910 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2793.2080 | [<groan>] | 2794.5835 |
1911 | DCB_int_01 | 2796.3309 | Oh, see, I didn't know that part. | 2797.6366 |
1913 | | 2798.0655 | [<laugh>] | 2798.9002 |
1914 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2798.2194 | [The other ones] don't come around. | 2800.0333 |
1915 | | 2800.8679 | Um, | 2801.3715 |
1917 | | 2801.8274 | that's the- you know, they denying themselves, you know. | 2804.7463 |
1919 | | 2805.3292 | Um, | 2806.0006 |
1921 | | 2806.9565 | every year for your birthday for the last couple years, all you wanted was a hundred one dollar bills. | 2811.4411 |
1923 | | 2812.3923 | /RD-NAME-2/ get that /dollar too/. Last week, I went to David little birthday thing, they got fifty. | 2816.9795 |
1925 | | 2817.1660 | I don't know you. | 2818.1405 |
1927 | | 2819.8378 | I know them /too/. | 2820.7180 |
1928 | DCB_int_01 | 2822.5645 | Well I know you. I can be your grandchild. I don't- I'll let- [You can have] me. | 2825.8332 |
1929 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2825.2596 | [Okay.] | 2825.7026 |
1930 | DCB_int_01 | 2825.9486 | [Okay.] | 2826.2750 |
1931 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2826.1176 | [Okay.] | 2826.4953 |
1932 | | 2826.9045 | I was [gonna-] | 2827.4081 |
1933 | DCB_int_01 | 2827.1096 | My birthday already passed, but [we can-] | 2828.8955 |
1934 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2828.2474 | [I was gonna-] | 2829.0121 |
1935 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2828.3500 | [But a lot of that] partly comes from, we lived with you. Like the other [grandkids] | 2832.4114 |
1936 | DCB_int_01 | 2831.2118 | [That makes a difference.] | 2832.3776 |
1937 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2832.3729 | [Yeah.] | 2832.8672 |
1938 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2832.6387 | [live-] So- [/We- we was around her/.] | 2834.6997 |
1939 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2833.4221 | [But that's true too.] | 2834.5621 |
1940 | DCB_int_01 | 2833.4431 | [Mm-hm.] | 2833.8511 |
1941 | | 2836.3109 | [That makes a big difference.] | 2837.4092 |
1942 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2836.3224 | [And you know-] | 2837.5161 |
1943 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2836.9657 | [But even still], it's still a open house. We had a lot of space, so if they wanted to come and spend the night, they could, but it seemed like | 2841.4598 |
1944 | | 2841.5670 | they only come around- Cause like I said, my grandfather, he had a lot of money and so, | 2844.7926 |
1946 | | 2845.1423 | if our cousins and their friends would come over when they wanted something. | 2848.0753 |
1947 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 2848.0659 | Like Christmas. | 2848.7700 |
1948 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2849.2596 | Like, you know? | 2850.0616 |
1950 | | 2850.2004 | So they had plenty of opportunity to come around, but it's like only when they needed something was when they would come around. | 2854.5649 |
1951 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2854.6814 | And then they got mad at me when my husband passed. Okay. | 2857.7112 |
1953 | | 2857.9070 | We all here together. | 2859.1567 |
1955 | | 2859.7349 | /RD-NAME-3/'s in Ohio. | 2861.2037 |
1957 | | 2861.9777 | Every weekend for two months wasn't it? And you came home. | 2865.0821 |
1959 | | 2865.9214 | What was airfare round trip? Fifty dollars? | 2868.2109 |
1960 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2868.2330 | /Something just-/ it was seventy five. | 2869.8277 |
1961 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2869.8790 | Something like that. | 2870.8442 |
1963 | | 2871.4924 | So if I talked to her and she was upset, I'd tell her, okay, get you a flight home Friday night, whenever your last class this week, | 2877.8779 |
1965 | | 2878.2478 | after that, get you a flight, and come down here. | 2880.3507 |
1967 | | 2880.9604 | Then they got good to me. | 2882.4712 |
1969 | | 2883.1287 | I would get on the plane and go to her. <laugh> | 2886.8066 |
1970 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2887.7357 | /inaudible/. | 2888.2101 |
1971 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2888.4339 | I would go to her. | 2889.5996 |
1973 | | 2890.5089 | And we just- | 2891.1384 |
1975 | | 2891.3389 | I mean, | 2891.8285 |
1977 | | 2891.9859 | me and /RD-NAME-3/ done some stuff- we went to Disney by ourself. | 2895.4877 |
1979 | | 2896.6768 | Had a, uh, five star room. | 2898.9185 |
1981 | | 2899.8650 | Had us a, | 2900.4759 |
1983 | | 2900.5971 | uh, | 2901.0774 |
1985 | | 2901.1893 | nice truck w- that we rented. | 2903.0638 |
1987 | | 2903.7399 | And then here come my son and his kids and their friends, and all them w- | 2907.5064 |
1989 | | 2907.9494 | The girls wanna s- | 2908.6814 |
1991 | | 2908.8866 | nah, y'all ain't messing up me and /RD-NAME-2/ party. | 2911.0071 |
1992 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 2912.0655 | <laugh> | 2913.1800 |
1993 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2913.4131 | Me and /RD-NAME-2/ got dressed alike one night, and we was going out (laughing). <laugh> | 2916.7226 |
1995 | | 2917.3381 | We was out eating seafood every night. We had a ball, didn't we? | 2920.4716 |
1996 | DCB_int_01 | 2923.3848 | So tell me about- | 2924.5878 |
1998 | | 2924.9375 | <clears throat> | 2925.4038 |
2000 | | 2926.5882 | Obviously DC has changed. You've been here for a long time. | 2929.1982 |
2001 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2929.4873 | Mm-hm. | 2930.3919 |
2002 | DCB_int_01 | 2931.6230 | How have you seen it change? | 2933.0910 |
2004 | | 2933.2736 | What changes have you seen? | 2934.4195 |
2005 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 2935.7298 | Let me tell you, since Marion Barry been gone, | 2937.6929 |
2007 | | 2939.4974 | out of office, | 2940.4429 |
2009 | | 2940.6014 | and passing, | 2941.5433 |
2011 | | 2942.3640 | you know, | 2942.8256 |
2013 | | 2943.3572 | when you | 2943.8421 |
2015 | | 2944.2991 | think about getting old when Marion Barry was dead. | 2947.2122 |
2017 | | 2947.3801 | Everything gonna be alright? | 2948.5645 |
2019 | | 2949.7022 | You know. | 2950.2198 |
2021 | | 2951.0311 | Marion Barry, if you was a teenager, | 2952.9185 |
2023 | | 2953.2868 | you applied for a job, you knew your kid had a job. | 2955.9960 |
2025 | | 2956.5229 | You don't know anymore. | 2957.5347 |
2027 | | 2958.0698 | He- | 2958.5594 |
2029 | | 2959.7391 | he made your dreams real. | 2961.3339 |
2031 | | 2962.1638 | You know, a lot of people wait | 2963.4508 |
2033 | | 2963.9917 | til they kids get to be about thirteen, fourteen. Be like, I'll be glad when they get a little job so they can | 2968.5276 |
2035 | | 2969.0871 | understand the value of a dollar. | 2970.8299 |
2037 | | 2972.6764 | Nowadays, what are these kids doing all summer? | 2975.3132 |
2039 | | 2976.0838 | All these kids around here I know is out there. | 2978.4246 |
2041 | | 2979.1100 | They ain't have no jobs. | 2980.4110 |
2043 | | 2981.3762 | You ain't see kids on the street. Everybody had a job. | 2984.2287 |
2045 | | 2984.8862 | They even made it where they even gave us | 2986.6768 |
2047 | | 2987.1944 | little, | 2987.5907 |
2049 | | 2987.7294 | um, | 2988.0791 |
2051 | | 2988.1817 | tokens to get back and forth to work | 2990.2194 |
2053 | | 2990.5925 | when Marion Barry was in there. | 2992.2105 |
2055 | | 2993.4928 | Old people get old. They ain't worrying about whether they w- had Social Security money, | 2998.0240 |
2057 | | 2998.3970 | or whether or not they had Medicaid or whether they had what they needed to survive | 3002.9468 |
2059 | | 3003.2499 | until they died. | 3004.3177 |
2061 | | 3004.7980 | Marion Barry made it happen. | 3006.2528 |
2063 | | 3008.3453 | That's why the man came back to life /the day of the month/. Everybody old in here gonna vote for him. | 3013.1096 |
2065 | | 3013.7904 | You didn't worry, | 3014.8163 |
2067 | | 3014.9795 | you know? | 3015.5717 |
2069 | | 3016.0846 | He took care of the young. He took care of the old. Ever- middle section. You- if you | 3020.1681 |
2071 | | 3020.9981 | did what you had to do. | 3022.1872 |
2073 | | 3023.3016 | It's changed a lot. | 3024.4382 |
2075 | | 3025.2029 | And | 3025.7438 |
2077 | | 3026.6344 | half of the- | 3027.1893 |
2079 | | 3027.3991 | the people that work down there in the damn district building in jail. | 3030.6340 |
2081 | | 3032.9655 | Uh, what's his name, Kwame? | 3034.8633 |
2083 | | 3035.0405 | He in jail. | 3035.8891 |
2085 | | 3036.2190 | He was my neighbor over there on Thirtieth Street. I used to love that man. When I worked in the district building, | 3040.9705 |
2087 | | 3041.4042 | he was about the best. | 3042.8858 |
2089 | | 3043.4081 | He was swindling money. Everybody's stealing money now from the government. | 3046.7980 |
2091 | | 3047.9124 | But at the end of the day, they don't realize how many people they're really hurting from stealing | 3052.5089 |
2093 | | 3053.2410 | from the government. | 3054.3647 |
2095 | | 3054.8112 | You stealing money from the schools. You stealing money from the retirem- | 3058.3597 |
2097 | | 3058.8120 | ment plans. You stealing money from people's Medicaid. You stealing money that people are gonna need. | 3063.9820 |
2099 | | 3065.1664 | They don't care. | 3066.2284 |
2101 | | 3067.5480 | I mean, they really a- | 3068.9841 |
2103 | | 3069.3758 | I had picked Marion Barry up out the street when I was working d- <laugh> | 3072.4895 |
2105 | | 3073.0630 | district building, I know at least four or five times. | 3075.6090 |
2107 | | 3076.2618 | I'd be like, Mayor, why do you keep doing this shit? You know that's what these whities wanna see. | 3081.2626 |
2109 | | 3082.9799 | /RD-NAME-2/, call my assistant. | 3084.4393 |
2111 | | 3084.9791 | Tell him to get down here right away. His assistant was /Gabe/. | 3087.7209 |
2113 | | 3088.6488 | I would call him, | 3089.5720 |
2115 | | 3090.0652 | and he'd be like, oh Lord, | 3091.5200 |
2117 | | 3091.6412 | and he would run down the steps to get Marion Barry off the street. I mean he'd be so drunk in the morning, | 3096.9791 |
2119 | | 3097.9070 | open the door and fall out the damn car. | 3099.9633 |
2121 | | 3104.0236 | I don't know. | 3104.7510 |
2122 | DCB_int_01 | 3105.5017 | But that's your mayor for life? | 3106.6954 |
2123 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3107.2270 | He shoulda been my mayor for life. | 3109.1609 |
2124 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3109.2729 | <laugh> | 3109.4174 |
2126 | | 3109.9630 | <laugh> | 3110.1402 |
2127 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3110.3360 | Well, at that- that was after, | 3112.4110 |
2129 | | 3113.0125 | um, | 3113.6233 |
2131 | | 3114.1165 | he went through that thing with the crack. | 3115.9303 |
2133 | | 3116.7603 | I'd'a been on crack too the way people treated him. | 3119.0824 |
2134 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3120.7553 | <laugh> | 3121.2216 |
2135 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3121.7438 | I mean, | 3122.3360 |
2137 | | 3122.9049 | you know, he did all he could do | 3125.1197 |
2139 | | 3125.8134 | with what he had to | 3126.8112 |
2141 | | 3126.9231 | do it with. | 3127.9210 |
2143 | | 3128.8349 | But people were accusing him of things that he wasn't even doing, so if you gonna accuse me, I might as well do it. | 3134.9142 |
2144 | DCB_int_01 | 3135.1406 | Right. | 3135.5067 |
2145 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3137.3762 | Marion Barry was the mayor | 3138.9278 |
2147 | | 3139.3708 | for life. | 3140.2381 |
2149 | | 3141.9214 | And then people like my father in Milwaukee, | 3143.8891 |
2151 | | 3144.2657 | but damn if he won again, well who was he running against? | 3147.6509 |
2153 | | 3148.6022 | [<laugh>] | 3152.5878 |
2154 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3151.0584 | [<laugh>] | 3152.6298 |
2155 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3153.3059 | You voted for him? M- Sure did. | 3155.1337 |
2157 | | 3155.3202 | Mm-hm. | 3156.1429 |
2159 | | 3157.5853 | But people thought Marion Barry was gonna be around forever. | 3160.6535 |
2161 | | 3161.5767 | You know, | 3162.0663 |
2162 | DCB_int_01 | 3162.3192 | Mm-hm. | 3162.6853 |
2163 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3162.9464 | that he would be in office forever. | 3164.7557 |
2165 | | 3165.1613 | Look at that pool he put up there in Parkland. | 3167.3436 |
2167 | | 3167.8145 | I mean | 3168.4067 |
2169 | | 3168.8952 | it's just stuff, so much that he did. | 3171.0541 |
2171 | | 3171.5530 | All the little, | 3172.3877 |
2173 | | 3172.9192 | um, | 3173.5021 |
2175 | | 3174.8998 | uh, how would I say that? All the little places for senior citizens to go. | 3179.3156 |
2177 | | 3179.6979 | Like that place up there where we lived? | 3181.6272 |
2179 | | 3182.2521 | Right on the corner, the- | 3183.4877 |
2180 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3183.4737 | /I don't [remember/.] | 3184.1265 |
2181 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3183.8001 | [The Wellness] Center. | 3185.1151 |
2182 | | 3186.0269 | They go up there and play Bingo, have busses take 'em to Atlantic City from there. I mean it was just a lot going on. | 3191.5720 |
2184 | | 3192.0045 | You don't see any of that anymore. | 3193.4640 |
2186 | | 3196.3037 | So now I'm old, ain't got no Marion Barry. | 3198.9138 |
2188 | | 3199.0910 | Guess /RD-NAME-2/ have to take care of me now. | 3201.2219 |
2189 | DCB_int_01 | 3203.6844 | [What about-] | 3204.2517 |
2190 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3203.7166 | [An-] | 3204.0383 |
2191 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3204.6200 | <laugh> | 3205.1376 |
2192 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3205.1796 | I ain't moving up on the third floor though. You gotta come down. | 3207.9260 |
2193 | DCB_int_01 | 3209.1431 | [<laugh>] | 3211.3178 |
2194 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3209.4124 | I ain't coming [home.] | 3210.2797 |
2195 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3209.9299 | [<laugh>] | 3210.6040 |
2196 | DCB_int_01 | 3212.2707 | What about the, um, | 3213.5344 |
2198 | | 3214.9799 | like the neighborhoods? | 3216.0710 |
2200 | | 3217.0957 | Have they changed a lot | 3217.9583 |
2202 | | 3218.1728 | that you can tell? | 3218.9515 |
2203 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3221.7213 | Only neighborhood I knew about was my own because I was in the house raising children. | 3225.8934 |
2204 | DCB_int_01 | 3226.1545 | Mm. | 3226.4576 |
2205 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3227.3249 | /I'm'a-/ | 3227.6373 |
2207 | | 3228.0092 | Let me tell you something. It's | 3228.9371 |
2209 | | 3229.0863 | kids out here with grownups now- | 3231.3851 |
2211 | | 3232.1872 | You don't remember me? | 3233.2270 |
2213 | | 3233.9812 | I grew up with your children. | 3235.3055 |
2215 | | 3238.3410 | I remember when the police came in and raided my house looking for my youngest son. | 3242.2287 |
2217 | | 3242.3873 | Thought well we m- | 3243.0960 |
2219 | | 3243.6183 | we know everybody around here. Why we never seen- I'm in the house raising children. | 3247.1843 |
2221 | | 3247.5806 | I go to work. | 3248.2334 |
2223 | | 3248.3873 | I come home. I'm raising my children. | 3250.1126 |
2225 | | 3250.4296 | I don't play outside. | 3251.4695 |
2227 | | 3252.1677 | You know? | 3252.6480 |
2229 | | 3252.8392 | And I didn't. | 3253.5632 |
2231 | | 3254.0189 | Everything I needed, believe me, boyfriend had it in the house. | 3257.5954 |
2233 | | 3258.4195 | But no need to hang outside. I go to the neighbor's house where everybody was drinking and stuff, but I wasn't a drinker. | 3263.3715 |
2235 | | 3264.0185 | So I'd just go over there and sit and watch them | 3266.1262 |
2237 | | 3266.2660 | acting- make a fool of themselves. Come on back in the house. | 3269.1197 |
2239 | | 3269.5068 | At least get to know who my kids | 3271.3428 |
2241 | | 3271.6039 | are hanging out with, | 3272.8023 |
2242 | DCB_int_01 | 3272.7848 | Right. | 3273.0133 |
2243 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3272.9841 | you know? | 3273.4038 |
2244 | | 3274.1067 | I- I don't know people in the neighborhood. | 3276.1269 |
2246 | | 3276.6387 | I- | 3276.7786 |
2248 | | 3276.9931 | you can't even get me to name nobody in this building. | 3279.0727 |
2249 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3280.1219 | <laugh> | 3280.5695 |
2250 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3281.5534 | Am I lying, /RD-NAME-2/? | 3282.6254 |
2251 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3282.6107 | Mm-mm. | 3283.1843 |
2252 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3283.9303 | The little young guy that was on the elevator with us, if he see a box at my door he'll keep it and | 3288.9185 |
2254 | | 3289.6599 | knock on my door and say, here's your box, or whate- I don't ev- I don't know- I don't know that lady right over there. I forgot her name. | 3295.5412 |
2255 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3296.2008 | [<laugh>] | 3296.9701 |
2256 | DCB_int_01 | 3296.5831 | [Like to] keep to yourself. | 3297.8188 |
2257 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3298.1032 | Yeah I had bad neighbors on Florida Avenue. | 3300.7226 |
2259 | | 3301.2868 | If I wanted to cook out for my kids, I had to cook enough for the | 3304.2291 |
2261 | | 3304.5276 | six kids next door because they hanging over the banister all day. | 3307.9117 |
2263 | | 3308.4059 | You can't feed my kids, and I can't feed them. They're hungry. I know they are. | 3312.6340 |
2265 | | 3313.6319 | Because | 3314.3360 |
2267 | | 3315.0448 | their mother was | 3315.9167 |
2269 | | 3316.0380 | old. | 3316.7933 |
2271 | | 3318.1943 | They was on crack, and these are their kids. | 3321.0058 |
2273 | | 3321.3012 | The crackhead's kids. So I had to feed everybody. | 3324.9007 |
2275 | | 3325.5899 | So I said, why don't we get away from here? When I was on Thirtieth Street, I didn't deal with the neighbors. | 3329.7492 |
2276 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3329.7341 | But do you feel like it's better now? Like all the neighborhoods, like as far as how they look and stuff? | 3333.5577 |
2277 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3335.9264 | They look alright. | 3336.8579 |
2278 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3337.7485 | <laugh> | 3338.0935 |
2279 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3338.8147 | I guess. | 3339.7300 |
2280 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3340.0846 | <laugh> | 3341.1384 |
2281 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3341.6560 | <laugh> | 3342.0430 |
2282 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3342.0605 | <laugh> | 3342.8579 |
2283 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3343.6552 | I wasn't a /roll through/ the neighborhood type of girl. | 3346.6348 |
2284 | DCB_int_01 | 3347.4170 | What's | 3347.5895 |
2285 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3347.5021 | I had so much goodies at- going on at home, I ain't need to run the street. | 3351.0914 |
2286 | DCB_int_01 | 3352.3037 | Mm. | 3352.7607 |
2287 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3352.8773 | Well we [talking about] even right now, Grandma. Like know how they fixing up like, even by Thirtieth Street, like how they about to add the Walmart right there. Like the /fix of it/ [/inaudible/.] | 3359.4695 |
2288 | DCB_int_01 | 3353.0623 | [Mm.] | 3353.2735 |
2289 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3358.9286 | Oh, yes. We got a (claps) Walmart in DC. Yes. | 3362.5622 |
2290 | DCB_int_01 | 3362.6764 | [<laugh>] | 3363.7862 |
2291 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3363.1893 | [That's what we talking about.] Like | 3364.2385 |
2292 | | 3364.5835 | the new [DC.] | 3365.3995 |
2293 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3364.9565 | [And the] sad part- Okay. I can tell you a difference | 3367.7951 |
2294 | | 3368.4992 | is how long | 3369.9680 |
2296 | | 3370.1872 | H Street had so many closed down buildings | 3373.4640 |
2298 | | 3374.2381 | versus now, when you go down H Street, everything is a restaurant, a bar or | 3379.0677 |
2300 | | 3379.8837 | whatever. | 3380.6950 |
2302 | | 3380.8816 | You know what I'm saying? | 3381.9447 |
2304 | | 3382.3644 | Cause when I was, | 3383.3622 |
2306 | | 3383.6606 | um, | 3384.2843 |
2308 | | 3385.5946 | last twenty years, everything down there was | 3388.0146 |
2310 | | 3388.8120 | closed down. | 3389.5720 |
2312 | | 3389.8845 | I mean still burnt up. | 3391.3801 |
2314 | | 3392.0982 | People didn't have money to, um, | 3394.1265 |
2316 | | 3394.4763 | rehabilitate their buildings | 3396.3228 |
2318 | | 3396.8532 | back to where it was before | 3398.4059 |
2320 | | 3398.8116 | these idiots decided to tear up their neighborhood cause King died. | 3402.1782 |
2322 | | 3404.3966 | We even got a trolley car going now- <laugh> | 3407.3063 |
2324 | | 3407.8378 | Then white people say, okay, the black folks found cheap houses in Maryland. | 3411.5344 |
2326 | | 3412.0473 | We gonna move in here and change things, and they did. | 3414.5175 |
2328 | | 3414.9791 | They really did. | 3416.0030 |
2330 | | 3416.6810 | Because | 3417.5625 |
2332 | | 3418.8493 | <sigh> | 3419.4322 |
2334 | | 3419.7574 | a lot of those | 3420.5641 |
2336 | | 3420.7273 | places on H Street- see, | 3422.4153 |
2338 | | 3423.1147 | where I work, we do inspections. Say like, if you were, | 3425.5860 |
2340 | | 3426.2144 | um, renovating a house, | 3427.7794 |
2342 | | 3428.2194 | in phases, it has to be inspected. | 3430.4856 |
2343 | DCB_int_01 | 3430.9191 | Mm-hm. | 3431.2385 |
2344 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3432.3203 | So | 3432.8868 |
2346 | | 3433.1823 | that's my job. | 3434.2361 |
2348 | | 3434.8621 | Put the program together, | 3436.1061 |
2350 | | 3436.1677 | tell them this is what's going on. Y'all need to go over there and inspect. | 3439.2767 |
2352 | | 3439.7384 | And s- and c- | 3440.4844 |
2354 | | 3440.7362 | you know, talk to the owners and the | 3442.5315 |
2356 | | 3442.9884 | contractors and make sure | 3444.5726 |
2358 | | 3444.9643 | that they're getting their work done on time. | 3447.0673 |
2360 | | 3447.7434 | You don't call me and tell me, okay, I'm'a get my, | 3450.0176 |
2362 | | 3450.5680 | um, | 3451.0669 |
2364 | | 3451.3933 | first inspections now and then six months later, we gonna f- get the fin- no. | 3455.2589 |
2366 | | 3456.1297 | You need to get this done. | 3457.4353 |
2368 | | 3458.1907 | I don't have time to dwell with you so. | 3459.9253 |
2370 | | 3460.4335 | They like to use our company because they say it's a w- | 3463.4726 |
2372 | | 3463.6684 | crazy woman over there who will come over there and shut you down | 3466.7646 |
2374 | | 3467.4536 | cause you taking too long. | 3468.8198 |
2376 | | 3469.8176 | It don't take all day to do nothing. | 3471.5096 |
2378 | | 3473.1330 | If y'all gonna be /on it/, and we gonna do the inspections, | 3475.7337 |
2380 | | 3476.1207 | you can't think that | 3477.0720 |
2382 | | 3477.3937 | we don't have nothing to do but sit here and wait for you. | 3479.4955 |
2384 | | 3480.1017 | You know. | 3480.5680 |
2386 | | 3481.5705 | Next week, if I get me a new client, then that mean I'm- I'm on you to finish so I can work with my new people. I don't wanna keep working with you. | 3488.3772 |
2388 | | 3490.2517 | I wanna keep it moving. | 3491.4769 |
2389 | DCB_int_01 | 3493.0809 | So [H Street.] Cause you're from Trinidad so that's closer to H Street. What about U Street? | 3496.5221 |
2390 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3493.2488 | [That's /all/.] | 3493.8456 |
2391 | | 3498.2136 | We got- we have some prop- um, actually /RD-ADDRESS-3/ U Street is one of our properties. | 3502.6620 |
2393 | | 3502.7786 | Um, | 3503.1982 |
2395 | | 3503.9805 | yeah. | 3504.6100 |
2397 | | 3505.5146 | /RD-ADDRESS-7/ | 3506.9974 |
2398 | DCB_int_01 | 3508.0931 | That area has changed. | 3509.3568 |
2399 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3509.3568 | It's beautiful up there. | 3510.7621 |
2400 | | 3512.3958 | Um, | 3512.9227 |
2402 | | 3513.1699 | I never thought- | 3513.8413 |
2404 | | 3514.0791 | That's another neighborhood they tore up really bad. I mean they went on up Georgia Avenue. | 3518.2373 |
2406 | | 3518.8129 | Where none living there but black people. | 3520.4988 |
2408 | | 3521.1283 | Go up Wisconsin Avenue and hit those good stores, you know. | 3524.5824 |
2410 | | 3525.7854 | All y'all did was tore up at the dry cleaners and the little | 3528.6053 |
2412 | | 3529.1369 | stores where everybody bought their tennis shoes and stuff. | 3531.7761 |
2414 | | 3532.3123 | And that | 3532.9278 |
2416 | | 3533.3102 | neighb- | 3533.7427 |
2418 | | 3533.8639 | uh, H Street and U Street suffered f- | 3536.5171 |
2420 | | 3536.7409 | thirty, forty years. | 3538.1355 |
2422 | | 3539.7240 | We coulda been doing all of that stuff. | 3541.6416 |
2424 | | 3541.9296 | I feel good in the summer, riding down H Street, parking my car and run in, | 3545.4594 |
2426 | | 3545.9525 | and have me a little drink | 3547.1742 |
2428 | | 3549.2352 | with them white people. | 3550.2750 |
2430 | | 3551.7846 | Yeah. | 3552.1716 |
2431 | DCB_int_01 | 3552.3654 | [Mm-hm, cause that's who's] out there. | 3553.7337 |
2432 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3552.4001 | [/A little/ mix it up.] | 3553.2581 |
2433 | | 3554.0508 | That's who's out there. | 3555.1575 |
2434 | DCB_int_01 | 3555.2631 | So let me ask you a couple different questions, then we'll finish up cause I know you got to go get your nails done. | 3559.5285 |
2435 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3559.6684 | Yes I [do girl.] | 3561.1271 |
2436 | DCB_int_01 | 3560.1394 | [Yes ma'am.] | 3561.1233 |
2437 | | 3561.6781 | Um, | 3562.2190 |
2439 | | 3563.8033 | tell me about go go music. I know /RD-NAME-2/ was talking about it, but | 3566.5777 |
2441 | | 3566.9274 | tell me about your experience with go go music. | 3569.5573 |
2442 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3569.7473 | Girl, | 3570.2789 |
2444 | | 3571.0436 | let me tell you something, when Chuck Brown died people was calling me, are you okay? | 3574.4708 |
2446 | | 3575.0665 | I used to travel with Chuck. | 3576.2929 |
2448 | | 3577.0110 | I used to date the congo player, Lino Druitt. | 3579.5196 |
2450 | | 3580.1211 | He was the congo player with the- (laughing) | 3582.0038 |
2452 | | 3582.7871 | with (laughing) um, The Soul Searchers. | 3585.1858 |
2454 | | 3586.4708 | It was so bad that when my girlfriend that used to hang with me when we'd go see Chuck- | 3590.2979 |
2456 | | 3591.0673 | We had Chuck over at her funeral. They didn't even acknowledge she was dead. They was over there with Chuck. | 3596.0881 |
2458 | | 3598.2377 | If they went down- whenever they went to southern Maryland, northern Maryland, New York, New Jersey, wherever, | 3603.7900 |
2460 | | 3604.2470 | we was there. | 3605.3195 |
2462 | | 3607.8223 | Loved some Chuck Brown. Didn't even | 3609.6455 |
2464 | | 3609.7667 | care about nobody else. | 3611.1563 |
2466 | | 3611.4302 | Chuck Brown was it. He was DC, | 3613.4446 |
2468 | | 3614.1674 | um, guy. | 3615.1326 |
2470 | | 3615.3098 | Everybody loved Chuck Brown. | 3617.2729 |
2472 | | 3618.8431 | And, um, | 3619.4539 |
2474 | | 3619.8503 | I used to work in Sabin's Record Store, where my cousin worked, on [Pennsylvania Avenue,] | 3624.4094 |
2475 | DCB_int_01 | 3623.6609 | [Mm-hm.] | 3624.1748 |
2476 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3625.2441 | over there by your mother work. | 3626.4238 |
2478 | | 3627.4543 | Oh. | 3627.9299 |
2480 | | 3629.4069 | What's that sandwich, Subway? | 3630.9876 |
2482 | | 3631.2488 | Used to be Sabin's Record Store, | 3633.1745 |
2484 | | 3633.7947 | and I worked in there, you know how | 3635.5095 |
2486 | | 3635.9198 | singing groups and everybody come to the record store to promote their music and stuff, | 3639.8973 |
2488 | | 3640.4289 | and The Soul Searchers came in there that day. And Lino | 3643.5285 |
2490 | | 3643.9575 | kept on saying, give me your phone number. My cousin /RD-NAME-2/ gave him- | 3647.2216 |
2492 | | 3647.3883 | gave him my phone number. | 3648.4234 |
2494 | | 3648.7312 | I dated him like three years. Everywhere The Soul Searchers went | 3651.4730 |
2496 | | 3651.9159 | I went too. | 3652.7693 |
2497 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3654.4328 | And then you went to school with Sugar Bear. | 3655.8223 |
2498 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3656.0415 | Went to school with Sugar Bear, | 3657.6642 |
2500 | | 3658.1165 | an- | 3658.4802 |
2502 | | 3658.6480 | I ain't gonna talk about him, okay. | 3660.3209 |
2503 | DCB_int_01 | 3660.4561 | What group is he from? | 3661.3980 |
2504 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3661.9296 | EU. | 3662.4285 |
2505 | DCB_int_01 | 3662.4611 | Mm-hm. | 3663.0305 |
2506 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3663.5522 | Yup. | 3663.9672 |
2507 | DCB_int_01 | 3664.9593 | So do you have, besides Chuck, do you have another group that you like? | 3667.6006 |
2508 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3669.9906 | Back there in the day, I liked everything. I just like music. | 3673.0343 |
2510 | | 3674.0601 | I love music. | 3674.8808 |
2512 | | 3675.2585 | Long as it's not that bluegrass and that country western, | 3677.7391 |
2513 | DCB_int_01 | 3678.1624 | [Yeah.] | 3678.4384 |
2514 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3678.2323 | [I'm] there. | 3678.9177 |
2515 | DCB_int_01 | 3679.2666 | Mm-hm. | 3679.6398 |
2516 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3679.9482 | [I] love music. | 3681.1279 |
2517 | DCB_int_01 | 3680.0551 | [But-] | 3680.2125 |
2518 | | 3681.2398 | And go go is unique to DC. What made it so unique? | 3684.3022 |
2519 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3685.2348 | Because we had so many go go bands in DC. | 3687.9579 |
2521 | | 3688.7553 | That was a- | 3689.3148 |
2523 | | 3689.4442 | um, back in my daughter's days, now, that was the only thing going on. | 3693.7481 |
2525 | | 3694.3916 | They go up to the Black Hole and all these other places that she went. | 3698.2933 |
2527 | | 3698.9647 | Um- | 3699.6875 |
2528 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3700.0045 | Until Daddy wanted to shut 'em down. | 3701.6226 |
2529 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3701.6261 | Yeah, and my husband, he was a f- | 3703.3094 |
2531 | | 3703.3887 | uh, fire inspector. He wanted to shut down everywhere my kids liked to hang out at the go go. | 3708.1530 |
2533 | | 3709.3747 | It was just- | 3710.2882 |
2535 | | 3710.7456 | I don't know. | 3711.2118 |
2537 | | 3711.5289 | And then when you- you're young, and you have- | 3713.6121 |
2539 | | 3714.3255 | you're raising kids, and you listen to what they listen to, | 3717.8227 |
2541 | | 3719.0584 | you wanna know what you're kids listening to. | 3720.7957 |
2543 | | 3721.5379 | And I liked all their music. | 3722.9367 |
2545 | | 3723.3331 | Cause one of my sons liked go go. The other one liked the oldies but goodies. | 3726.6473 |
2546 | DCB_int_01 | 3727.1759 | <laugh> | 3727.8876 |
2547 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3727.8922 | And they rooms right there together. | 3729.5196 |
2548 | DCB_int_01 | 3729.6035 | [<laugh>] | 3732.0176 |
2549 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3729.6035 | [<laugh>] | 3731.7252 |
2550 | | 3732.6519 | [<laugh>] | 3733.3140 |
2551 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3733.0203 | [So] you know, and we h- I- | 3734.9740 |
2552 | | 3735.0626 | I liked the oldies but goodies, but then I started listening to his, I liked his too. | 3738.7732 |
2554 | | 3739.1415 | And, you know, y'all know I still like y'all music. | 3741.4683 |
2555 | DCB_int_01 | 3742.7646 | What's your favorite song? | 3743.6651 |
2556 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3744.9655 | [<sigh>] | 3746.1988 |
2557 | DCB_int_01 | 3745.5763 | From- from late | 3746.3550 |
2558 | | 3746.4926 | group, | 3746.7259 |
2560 | | 3746.8901 | from they generation. | 3747.8227 |
2561 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3748.4382 | From their [generation?] | 3749.8825 |
2562 | DCB_int_01 | 3749.1551 | [Yes, ma'am.] | 3749.8266 |
2563 | | 3750.0271 | Mm-hm. Not the oldies [but the goldies.] | 3751.3980 |
2564 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3750.8431 | [Oh what's that] one about cooking in the kitchen? | 3753.3284 |
2565 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3754.5128 | Yeah, the XIB In the Kitchen one. | 3756.3535 |
2566 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3756.3348 | Girl, we did a video on me on that one didn't we? | 3760.2750 |
2567 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3760.4475 | Yes. | 3761.1283 |
2569 | | 3762.8757 | [But she- But sometime she] be more hip than we are. Like she come home, like, | 3766.5128 |
2570 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3762.9364 | [Mm-hm.] | 3764.0042 |
2571 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3767.0397 | Y'all heard that Lil Wayne song? | 3768.4141 |
2573 | | 3768.5773 | We'll be like, [What? This was] when Lollipop first came out. We were like, what Grandma? | 3772.0745 |
2574 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3768.9690 | [<laugh>] | 3769.4726 |
2575 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3772.2750 | Oh you gotta listen to this. You gotta listen [to this.] | 3774.1856 |
2576 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3773.7706 | [<laugh>] | 3774.7685 |
2577 | DCB_int_01 | 3774.9037 | <laugh> | 3777.4077 |
2578 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3778.0791 | I used to listen to a Chicago station. That music was there [before it got here.] | 3782.7642 |
2579 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3781.7104 | [/Oh yeah/.] | 3782.7549 |
2580 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3784.3170 | And my God, | 3785.2680 |
2582 | | 3785.6261 | me and- we would turn that music on in the office. It would be funny. | 3789.1093 |
2584 | | 3790.3123 | You okay? | 3790.8858 |
2585 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3791.7007 | And what song was it that came out that you told me about? | 3793.7290 |
2587 | | 3794.9041 | From Chicago. | 3795.6708 |
2589 | | 3796.1538 | Jeremiah. | 3796.8019 |
2590 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3800.0834 | Oh I [forgot the name.] | 3801.1326 |
2591 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3800.4891 | [Birthday.] | 3801.1419 |
2592 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3801.2958 | Yeah. | 3802.1025 |
2593 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3802.2190 | What was it called? Birthday what? | 3803.4034 |
2594 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3805.8270 | Dang /RD-NAME-2/, that was a long [time ago.] | 3807.9533 |
2595 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3807.2725 | [/You remember it/], /unintelligible/. | 3808.8532 |
2596 | | 3809.6634 | /RD-NAME-2/, you know that song, Birthday Sex? | 3811.9249 |
2597 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3812.3679 | Yeah. | 3813.5429 |
2598 | DCB_int_01 | 3816.0784 | I like that song. | 3816.7842 |
2599 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3816.9585 | Me too. | 3817.5006 |
2600 | DCB_int_01 | 3817.6346 | Mm-hm. | 3818.0939 |
2601 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3818.5136 | Especially on my birthday. | 3819.6630 |
2602 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3819.7423 | But she like her oldies but [goodies], but she'll- don't laugh. | 3822.2118 |
2603 | DCB_int_01 | 3820.7162 | [<clap>] | 3820.8841 |
2604 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3822.5184 | Don't, Minnie. [<laugh>] | 3823.7325 |
2605 | DCB_int_01 | 3823.1054 | [<laugh>] | 3824.7257 |
2606 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3825.1046 | [But she'll listen] to our music. She like her oldies and good- but goodies, but she'll listen to our music every once [in awhile.] | 3829.3937 |
2607 | DCB_int_01 | 3825.1104 | [<laugh>] | 3825.5394 |
2608 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3828.7032 | [I'll listen to anything] long as it ain't that hard | 3830.7829 |
2609 | | 3831.0113 | stuff. Like [n- I can handle.] | 3832.4895 |
2610 | DCB_int_01 | 3831.6362 | [You don't like /it/-] | 3832.3170 |
2611 | | 3833.2775 | So let me ask you- what about mumbo sauce? Do you eat mumbo sauce? | 3835.7290 |
2612 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3836.1534 | Not really. | 3836.9134 |
2613 | DCB_int_01 | 3838.1631 | Have you- | 3838.4662 |
2614 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3838.4662 | I'll eat it. | 3839.1656 |
2615 | DCB_int_01 | 3839.3416 | [Mm-hm.] | 3839.7660 |
2616 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3839.6028 | [I don't] have anything against it it. | 3841.0296 |
2617 | | 3841.3560 | Um, | 3841.9482 |
2619 | | 3842.5637 | I like hot sauce. | 3843.6082 |
2620 | DCB_int_01 | 3843.8553 | You like- [<laugh>] | 3846.2081 |
2621 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3844.7040 | [<laugh>] | 3846.0176 |
2622 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3844.7133 | [<laugh>] | 3846.5633 |
2623 | | 3848.3539 | I eat mumbo sauce. | 3849.5056 |
2624 | DCB_int_01 | 3849.6315 | If you had to describe it, how would you describe it? | 3851.6035 |
2625 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3852.2183 | Different. | 3852.7592 |
2626 | DCB_int_01 | 3855.5989 | No other words? | 3856.5548 |
2627 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3856.9045 | I mean it's kind of sweet, kind of | 3858.7358 |
2629 | | 3858.8991 | tart, | 3859.2484 |
2631 | | 3859.3653 | kind of | 3859.9016 |
2633 | | 3860.8108 | different. | 3861.4636 |
2634 | DCB_int_01 | 3863.4069 | Can you tell me what's in it? | 3864.3069 |
2635 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3865.2488 | Hell no. | 3865.9855 |
2636 | DCB_int_01 | 3866.0088 | <laugh> <clap> | 3867.2725 |
2638 | | 3867.4497 | [<laugh>] | 3869.5899 |
2639 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3867.4497 | [<laugh>] | 3869.5899 |
2640 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3867.4543 | [<laugh>] | 3868.4615 |
2642 | | 3869.3195 | [I would] think ketchup [and] | 3871.0529 |
2643 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3870.4794 | [<laugh>] | 3872.3679 |
2644 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3871.3280 | [vinegar.] | 3872.0928 |
2645 | | 3872.4658 | I don't know. | 3873.2585 |
2646 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3873.2538 | <laugh> | 3874.4988 |
2647 | DCB_int_01 | 3874.6620 | Okay. | 3875.2443 |
2648 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3875.1784 | [Can I get back] to you on that [one?] | 3876.5400 |
2649 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3876.3768 | [<laugh>] | 3877.5612 |
2650 | DCB_int_01 | 3876.5120 | [Yes ma'am.] | 3877.1042 |
2651 | | 3877.2394 | [You-] | 3877.5192 |
2652 | | 3877.7057 | yup, [you can get back to me.] | 3878.9367 |
2653 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3878.0928 | [<laugh>] | 3878.8108 |
2654 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3879.0673 | [Mkay.] | 3879.5709 |
2655 | DCB_int_01 | 3879.0813 | [What do you-] <clap> | 3879.8926 |
2656 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3879.5942 | [<laugh>] | 3880.3030 |
2657 | DCB_int_01 | 3880.5641 | <clears throat> | 3880.9464 |
2658 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3881.6354 | <laugh> | 3882.2043 |
2659 | DCB_int_01 | 3884.2140 | <clears throat> So I forgot to ask Terrell this, but, | 3886.3976 |
2661 | | 3887.3883 | people come from all over the world to | 3889.6311 |
2663 | | 3889.9529 | see the monuments, go to the White House, all that. Have you been a tourist in your own back yard? | 3894.5353 |
2664 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3896.0508 | [Mm-mm.] | 3896.5841 |
2665 | DCB_int_01 | 3896.1021 | [Do you go to] the monuments? Do you- | 3897.8135 |
2666 | | 3898.5315 | museums? | 3899.4500 |
2667 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3900.4887 | I used to go | 3901.6311 |
2669 | | 3903.3377 | but my kids- | 3904.5688 |
2671 | | 3905.5561 | The school always took 'em before I got to take 'em. | 3908.0228 |
2673 | | 3908.9974 | When it came to my kids, we did more going out of town stuff. | 3912.7032 |
2675 | | 3913.5519 | You know, Myrtle Beach and, | 3915.2911 |
2677 | | 3916.2750 | um, | 3916.7553 |
2679 | | 3917.4273 | down to my home or | 3919.3496 |
2681 | | 3920.3521 | ride up to New York. | 3922.1229 |
2683 | | 3923.4798 | Where was that I took my kids that we was laughing about the other night? | 3926.6132 |
2685 | | 3927.5960 | O- | 3927.9270 |
2687 | | 3928.0669 | Uh, Ocean City, Atlantic City, all the beaches. | 3931.1118 |
2689 | | 3931.7693 | We used to, | 3932.2018 |
2691 | | 3932.3370 | uh, almost every summer go down to, um, | 3935.0601 |
2693 | | 3935.3306 | I forgot that beach down there. | 3936.8134 |
2695 | | 3937.4195 | But we used to go down there at least | 3938.5899 |
2697 | | 3939.3115 | three weekends out of the month. | 3940.9435 |
2699 | | 3941.5311 | You know, just let the kids run. | 3943.2237 |
2701 | | 3944.3381 | We were always doing something, | 3945.8244 |
2703 | | 3946.1742 | going somewhere. | 3947.0135 |
2704 | DCB_int_01 | 3947.7875 | What's your favorite book | 3948.7862 |
2706 | | 3949.0325 | or movie | 3949.5967 |
2708 | | 3949.7086 | or TV show? | 3950.6086 |
2709 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3952.6591 | <ts> | 3952.7664 |
2711 | | 3954.3797 | <sigh> | 3955.2050 |
2713 | | 3956.5748 | Between The Real and Wendy Williams. | 3958.8876 |
2715 | | 3961.1864 | Now I watch them every day, faithfully. | 3963.5923 |
2717 | | 3964.9296 | I like The Real and Wendy Williams because it keeps me up on whatever young folks are doing out there in California or | 3970.5239 |
2719 | | 3971.3958 | what | 3971.7782 |
2721 | | 3972.3564 | rich people do that I am not doing. | 3974.4967 |
2723 | | 3975.4374 | I just wanna know what they doing, | 3976.6964 |
2725 | | 3977.4192 | cause I can't do it. | 3978.2958 |
2726 | DCB_se1_ag1_m_03 | 3978.8180 | [<laugh>] | 3979.2563 |
2727 | DCB_int_01 | 3978.8227 | [<laugh>] | 3979.5921 |
2728 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3979.9651 | <laugh> | 3981.0176 |
2730 | | 3981.4841 | [<laugh>] | 3982.4773 |
2731 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3982.4446 | Kim Kardashian and | 3983.9227 |
2732 | | 3984.1186 | Caitlyn and all them. | 3985.4382 |
2733 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3985.9500 | But Grandma. | 3987.1300 |
2734 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3987.4281 | [Mm-hm.] | 3988.2721 |
2735 | DCB_int_01 | 3987.6706 | [Grandma-] | 3988.1788 |
2736 | | 3988.4120 | [Grandma, you-] | 3989.0508 |
2737 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3988.4213 | [I think I-] I think I'm gonna be a man next month. | 3990.7807 |
2738 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 3991.8112 | [Grandma.] | 3992.7112 |
2739 | DCB_int_01 | 3992.4442 | [You're gonna] be a man next month. | 3993.8151 |
2740 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3993.9503 | Caitlyn can be a woman. | 3995.2233 |
2741 | DCB_int_01 | 3996.0207 | So you gonna change it up? | 3996.9393 |
2742 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3996.9253 | Yup. | 3997.3356 |
2743 | DCB_int_01 | 3998.8033 | Okay. | 3999.2726 |
2744 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 3999.2649 | [I'm just-] | 3999.7545 |
2745 | DCB_int_01 | 3999.4701 | [What's-] what's gonna be your new [name?] | 4000.9715 |
2746 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4000.5006 | [I'm just] kidding. I'm just kidding (laughing). [I'm just kidding.] | 4004.4221 |
2747 | DCB_int_01 | 4002.9719 | [<laugh>] | 4004.5293 |
2748 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4005.1763 | [But-] | 4005.5027 |
2749 | DCB_int_01 | 4005.1763 | [I was] going with you. I was gonna support you in it. | 4007.2187 |
2750 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4007.1907 | But if you got enough money to turn yourself from a man to a woman, | 4011.0318 |
2751 | | 4011.9876 | something went wrong somewhere. | 4013.6383 |
2752 | DCB_int_01 | 4013.6570 | <laugh> | 4014.5616 |
2753 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4016.0723 | With his money, he could have been anything but a woman. | 4018.4959 |
2755 | | 4020.6315 | Okay, I'm done. | 4021.5781 |
2756 | DCB_int_01 | 4022.1458 | <laugh> | 4022.6168 |
2757 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4022.8359 | What? | 4023.1950 |
2759 | | 4023.4281 | Grandma (laughing). | 4024.6405 |
2760 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4025.6663 | All that money a man has, | 4027.1584 |
2762 | | 4027.9838 | all he could wanna be is a woman? | 4029.5726 |
2763 | DCB_int_01 | 4029.6612 | <laugh> | 4030.6451 |
2764 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4031.5917 | /Shit./ | 4032.4263 |
2766 | | 4034.2076 | I like these boots. | 4035.3395 |
2767 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4035.5214 | [<laugh>] | 4036.2534 |
2768 | DCB_int_01 | 4035.7358 | [Thank you.] | 4036.3887 |
2769 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4037.0881 | Mm-hm. Mm. You got it going on. | 4038.6828 |
2770 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4038.9393 | <laugh> | 4039.7739 |
2771 | DCB_int_01 | 4040.6401 | I can't keep up with /RD-NAME-3/ though. | 4042.1975 |
2772 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4042.7057 | No you can't. | 4043.4238 |
2773 | DCB_int_01 | 4043.4844 | [Mm-mm.] | 4043.8761 |
2774 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4043.7689 | [Me] either. | 4044.5709 |
2775 | DCB_int_01 | 4045.5594 | Mm-mm. | 4045.9977 |
2777 | | 4046.1645 | I'm tryna get on her level. | 4047.3442 |
2778 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4048.6778 | That's my baby. | 4049.6476 |
2779 | DCB_int_01 | 4049.7782 | I know but you adopted me so I might be able to get on her level. | 4052.3335 |
2780 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4052.3370 | Yeah, you adopted now, | 4053.6659 |
2782 | | 4053.7732 | but see l- | 4054.3001 |
2784 | | 4054.5052 | /RD-NAME-2/ thinks that | 4055.8575 |
2786 | | 4056.3238 | I want her out my house because | 4058.3008 |
2788 | | 4058.4862 | I- it's something I may wanna do here. | 4060.7011 |
2790 | | 4061.7316 | It feel good to know I can lay down and die (snaps), | 4063.9779 |
2792 | | 4064.2076 | and she can take care of herself. | 4065.8679 |
2794 | | 4066.6498 | You know what I'm saying? | 4067.3632 |
2795 | DCB_int_01 | 4067.2233 | Mm-hm. | 4067.5917 |
2796 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4067.9985 | Ain't nobody gonna do for her like I did it- | 4069.7040 |
2798 | | 4069.9278 | Like I do, did, or will. | 4071.3768 |
2800 | | 4072.4166 | You know, | 4072.9342 |
2802 | | 4073.3166 | all I want her to do is prove to me you got | 4075.7926 |
2804 | | 4075.9698 | this. | 4076.4687 |
2806 | | 4077.6053 | You don't need no nigga. | 4078.7104 |
2808 | | 4079.6150 | You don't need nothing but you. | 4081.0279 |
2810 | | 4081.6107 | And the money I spent to send you to college and do it f- for myself, | 4085.3585 |
2812 | | 4086.0673 | to do for you. That's all I want her to do. | 4088.8324 |
2814 | | 4089.8617 | Be able to take care of yourself. | 4091.2793 |
2816 | | 4092.8833 | And | 4093.0418 |
2818 | | 4094.0490 | it came the hard love- | 4095.4887 |
2820 | | 4095.8384 | I didn't | 4096.5658 |
2822 | | 4096.8689 | approach her like I did her mother. | 4098.6921 |
2824 | | 4099.1118 | I never would, | 4099.9884 |
2826 | | 4100.5608 | but | 4101.3658 |
2828 | | 4101.9037 | this my last baby. I got to worry about her and /RD-NAME-2/. | 4104.7341 |
2830 | | 4105.2983 | All I wanted to do- | 4106.5853 |
2832 | | 4107.1297 | And I didn't want her to live where she living. I ain't like it. | 4109.5870 |
2834 | | 4109.8108 | It's too little. | 4110.6129 |
2836 | | 4111.3403 | /RD-NAME-2/ got seven thousand outfits in there, | 4113.7871 |
2838 | | 4115.1067 | and she got a closet this big. | 4116.6875 |
2840 | | 4117.7832 | /RD-NAME-2/ need a closet this- | 4119.6146 |
2842 | | 4120.6451 | size of this room, | 4122.0440 |
2844 | | 4122.5802 | and then the shoes can go back there. | 4124.5433 |
2846 | | 4126.0902 | You know what I'm saying? | 4127.0135 |
2848 | | 4128.2025 | And I just wanna know that she can take- | 4130.1971 |
2850 | | 4130.5748 | Because | 4130.9105 |
2852 | | 4131.3955 | once /RD-NAME-2/ taking care of- And | 4132.8876 |
2854 | | 4133.1114 | I wasn't gonna say this, but I'm'a tell you this, too. | 4135.1724 |
2856 | | 4136.0246 | If anything was to happen to me, | 4138.0529 |
2858 | | 4138.8783 | I ain't got to worry about /RD-NAME-2/ because she gonna take care of /RD-NAME-2/ | 4141.6888 |
2860 | | 4142.5841 | if /RD-NAME-2/ falls short, aren't you? | 4144.2814 |
2862 | | 4146.2025 | So, | 4146.7994 |
2864 | | 4147.3811 | I never w- | 4148.0152 |
2866 | | 4148.8965 | wanted to tell you why I do what I do, | 4151.1394 |
2868 | | 4151.8108 | but | 4152.0626 |
2870 | | 4152.1932 | I just wanted you to | 4153.3578 |
2872 | | 4153.4604 | go out here | 4154.3370 |
2874 | | 4155.0504 | and learn that you can take care of yourself. | 4157.4064 |
2876 | | 4157.6057 | And you know how to do that, | 4158.9579 |
2878 | | 4160.1178 | but I needed to see it. | 4161.3115 |
2880 | | 4163.0228 | And to know that you and /RD-NAME-2/- | 4164.5662 |
2882 | | 4164.8787 | If I drop dead today or tomorrow, you know my health is not that good- | 4168.1415 |
2884 | | 4168.6125 | As long as you're doing well, he's okay. | 4170.6035 |
2886 | | 4173.5540 | And who been with you all weekend? | 4175.0228 |
2887 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4176.5336 | <laugh> | 4176.8087 |
2888 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4176.9474 | See what I'm saying? | 4177.9779 |
2890 | | 4178.6727 | You know, | 4179.0597 |
2892 | | 4179.5074 | people don't think about stuff like that, but I do. | 4182.3284 |
2894 | | 4184.3510 | If something happened to me, | 4185.5820 |
2896 | | 4186.0063 | I ain't got to worry about /RD-NAME-2/. She thirty nine. | 4188.2865 |
2898 | | 4189.3158 | You're oldest uncle forty five. The next one forty four. They gonna be alright. | 4193.2000 |
2900 | | 4193.9741 | You are my | 4195.0034 |
2902 | | 4195.0967 | priority now | 4196.1132 |
2904 | | 4197.1437 | cause I know if you alright, he alright. | 4198.6871 |
2905 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4200.8728 | Yeah. | 4201.1526 |
2906 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4201.4790 | And you been doing good, but I just want you to get your shit out my house. | 4204.4400 |
2907 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4205.9927 | /RD-NAME-2/. [<laugh>] | 4208.5888 |
2908 | DCB_int_01 | 4207.5909 | [Yup.] | 4207.8987 |
2909 | | 4209.1856 | I got it on tape. | 4209.9597 |
2910 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4210.1229 | You understand what I'm saying though? | 4212.0440 |
2912 | | 4213.3345 | This girl, | 4214.2437 |
2914 | | 4216.3700 | she w- | 4216.8316 |
2916 | | 4217.0974 | I- | 4217.3212 |
2918 | | 4217.4798 | mm, | 4217.7642 |
2920 | | 4217.9787 | <sigh> | 4218.5336 |
2922 | | 4219.7075 | I don't love her more than my daughter. | 4222.0809 |
2924 | | 4222.3094 | I love her different. | 4223.1534 |
2925 | DCB_int_01 | 4223.6197 | [Mm-hm.] | 4223.9694 |
2926 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4223.7596 | [<laugh>] | 4223.9787 |
2927 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4224.6781 | You know what I'm saying? | 4225.4883 |
2928 | DCB_int_01 | 4225.5023 | I've said that. No, that's true. | 4226.8313 |
2929 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4226.8079 | But, | 4227.3768 |
2930 | | 4227.8757 | in the same token, | 4229.1347 |
2932 | | 4229.7129 | she is really the last one I have to worry about. | 4232.2810 |
2934 | | 4233.4654 | Cause long as she | 4234.6171 |
2936 | | 4235.0928 | got things under control, that one right there okay. | 4238.0852 |
2938 | | 4238.5422 | After that, I don't care. | 4239.6939 |
2940 | | 4241.8855 | What else do I have to care- | 4243.1246 |
2942 | | 4243.2412 | care about? | 4243.8194 |
2944 | | 4245.1530 | You understand what I'm saying? | 4246.3747 |
2945 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4246.5099 | Mm-hm. | 4246.9109 |
2946 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4247.8295 | Now if I can get her into- | 4249.2563 |
2948 | | 4249.7122 | stop being afraid to drive and start working on buying [herself a] [car.] | 4253.4518 |
2949 | DCB_int_01 | 4252.4120 | [Yes.] | 4253.0182 |
2951 | | 4253.2653 | [Mm-hm.] Yes ma'am. | 4254.4403 |
2952 | | 4254.6921 | Yes, [I've told her that.] | 4256.0572 |
2953 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4255.0547 | [Really /RD-NAME-2/.] | 4255.9138 |
2954 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4256.7427 | Okay. | 4257.4328 |
2955 | DCB_int_01 | 4257.7359 | See? | 4258.0576 |
2957 | | 4258.3514 | I've- | 4258.6311 |
2959 | | 4258.8410 | I have tried to t- | 4259.6756 |
2961 | | 4260.1746 | Have I not? | 4260.7155 |
2962 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4260.8262 | [Mm-hm.] | 4261.7774 |
2963 | DCB_int_01 | 4261.1386 | [I have tried] to really tell her that | 4262.8919 |
2964 | | 4263.2229 | you can't be afraid. That's what he talked about, that they have a fear, but a fear- not a | 4267.2610 |
2966 | | 4267.4324 | scary fear, but have a- | 4269.0178 |
2968 | | 4269.4747 | a reverent fear for the Lord, but not to [drive.] | 4272.0912 |
2969 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4271.9414 | [Mm-hm.] | 4272.7621 |
2970 | DCB_int_01 | 4273.2738 | Life is gonna happen. | 4274.1831 |
2971 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4274.4536 | That's right, and if it ain't your time to die, you ain't going nowhere. | 4277.2746 |
2972 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4278.2352 | Remember I told you not in /unintelligible/- I'm not gonna say it's hard, but | 4281.4765 |
2974 | | 4281.8338 | I grew up in a time when I- when I really wanted to drive, my grandfather wouldn't let me. | 4285.3904 |
2976 | | 4286.2857 | He was the type like- | 4287.4421 |
2977 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4287.7778 | [I'll take you. <laugh>] | 4288.9855 |
2978 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4287.7872 | [I'll take you everywhere you go.] You're gonna have [a chauffeur for the rest of your life.] | 4291.0652 |
2979 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4289.7502 | [<laugh>] | 4290.8740 |
2980 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4291.5210 | And I will make sure that you have a driver | 4293.8198 |
2982 | | 4294.0110 | to take you everywhere you wanna go. | 4295.3073 |
2983 | DCB_int_01 | 4295.3399 | And that's why Grandma said you need to be independent. | 4297.4837 |
2984 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4297.3485 | [Yeah, now but-] | 4298.8639 |
2985 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4297.4930 | [That's right.] | 4298.2917 |
2987 | | 4298.5142 | [Mm-hm.] | 4298.9618 |
2988 | DCB_int_01 | 4298.9292 | And so | 4299.2882 |
2989 | | 4299.3908 | driving is part of that independence. | 4301.2373 |
2990 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4301.2373 | But now that I've been in those three car accidents, I'm never gonna be /inaudible/. | 4303.5490 |
2991 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4305.2696 | That's behind you. | 4306.5099 |
2993 | | 4306.8363 | Do you know you coulda died in any one of those three car accidents? W- | 4310.3137 |
2995 | | 4310.5375 | but look wh- | 4311.0877 |
2997 | | 4311.2369 | look where you are. | 4312.1602 |
2999 | | 4313.7409 | [God got] too much stuff for you to do. He ain't gonna take you nowhere no time soon. [Trust] me. | 4318.3374 |
3000 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4313.8062 | [/?/] | 4314.1326 |
3001 | DCB_int_01 | 4317.6566 | [Mm.] | 4318.0809 |
3002 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4320.3972 | Cause you are an anointed | 4321.7868 |
3004 | | 4321.9546 | baby. | 4322.5422 |
3006 | | 4322.7380 | Really. | 4323.3162 |
3008 | | 4325.5357 | And you know it. | 4326.2958 |
3010 | | 4327.1433 | So we ain't even gonna go there today, right? | 4329.5587 |
3011 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4329.8198 | Mm-hm. | 4330.3465 |
3012 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4330.5052 | But you know what I was- I just said to you right? | 4332.4812 |
3014 | | 4333.3578 | /Skur/. | 4334.0945 |
3015 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4334.4116 | [<laugh>] | 4336.0483 |
3016 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4335.0318 | [<laugh>] | 4336.3094 |
3017 | DCB_int_01 | 4336.0856 | [And I] got it on recorder, so if we need- if you need me to play it again for her- [it's right. Mm-hm.] | 4340.3455 |
3018 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4339.1200 | [Yes.] | 4340.0246 |
3019 | | 4343.8202 | [You got- I w- You got other] things to be scared of than driving. | 4347.4155 |
3020 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4344.1093 | [/You make me feel special/.] | 4345.3951 |
3021 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4348.0343 | Hm. | 4348.4446 |
3022 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4351.5676 | <laugh> | 4353.3162 |
3023 | DCB_int_01 | 4353.7405 | Oh Grandma [do you-] | 4354.4446 |
3024 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4354.2721 | [I w-] | 4354.5332 |
3025 | | 4354.6498 | I wish that's all I had to be scared of. You- | 4356.7341 |
3026 | DCB_int_01 | 4357.4650 | Hm. | 4357.7728 |
3027 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4358.4069 | Hm. | 4358.6727 |
3028 | DCB_int_01 | 4361.2653 | I drive. | 4361.8668 |
3029 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4362.5558 | I drive. | 4363.5146 |
3030 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4364.5841 | <laugh> | 4365.3348 |
3031 | DCB_int_01 | 4366.0809 | I've been- I was trying to tell her- | 4367.6243 |
3033 | | 4367.8575 | you can tell- ask her. | 4369.0652 |
3035 | | 4369.3018 | One of the jobs that she really wanted to apply for, | 4371.9270 |
3037 | | 4372.2721 | she couldn't apply for it because she doesn't drive. | 4374.9066 |
3038 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4374.8507 | See? | 4375.2610 |
3039 | | 4378.8316 | One day it's gonna hit you that /everybody/ should drive cause | 4381.6236 |
3041 | | 4381.7401 | I can drive a stick shift. | 4383.2742 |
3043 | | 4383.8618 | I can drive a eighteen wheeler if I have to. | 4385.7549 |
3045 | | 4386.7108 | You never put yourself in predicament to be, | 4389.1530 |
3047 | | 4389.9084 | um, what's the word I wanna use? | 4391.8715 |
3049 | | 4392.7050 | Left behind | 4393.8940 |
3051 | | 4395.1064 | or whatever. Have your own stuff. | 4397.6476 |
3053 | | 4397.8062 | You know, have your own car, | 4399.0745 |
3055 | | 4399.9733 | learn how to drive /and leave the/ car parked outside! | 4402.3607 |
3057 | | 4403.6197 | Just leave it sitting. You'll get tired of catching the bus. You'll drive it. | 4406.8499 |
3059 | | 4407.4934 | Just go buy you a car. | 4408.7134 |
3060 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4408.7011 | <laugh> | 4409.1767 |
3061 | DCB_se2_ag4_f_05 | 4411.7821 | You'll get tired of w- depending on black folks to do stuff for you. | 4415.3936 |
3063 | | 4418.5853 | Trust me. | 4419.1716 |
3065 | | 4419.9690 | You need to start thinking about that for real. That's serious stuff. | 4423.3303 |
3067 | | 4423.5443 | Driving is very important. | 4425.6193 |
3069 | | 4428.8553 | You know? | 4429.2750 |
3070 | DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 | 4429.9640 | Okay. | 4430.3603 |