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1DCB_int_010.2364Okay, and what's your birthday?1.7530
2DCB_se3_ag1_m_012.1316Eleven twenty-five, two thousand.4.1256
3DCB_int_014.7041Oh.5.4924
5 5.6425Happy birthday, [happy belated birthday.]8.9924 
6DCB_se3_ag1_m_017.2641[Thank you.]7.8823
8 8.6888[Thank you.]9.1634 
9DCB_int_0110.0134And where were you born?10.9644
10DCB_se3_ag1_m_0111.5791Washington DC.12.6268
11DCB_int_0113.1707And what neighborhood do you claim?15.7190
12DCB_se3_ag1_m_0116.4438Petworth.17.0152
13DCB_int_0117.9828Have you always lived in Petworth?19.1073
14DCB_se3_ag1_m_0119.6011Mm, yes.20.5120
16 20.8623Majority of my life, yes.22.0535 
17DCB_int_0122.0668Where else have you lived?22.9196
18DCB_se3_ag1_m_0123.0653I've lived in PG County24.4440
20 24.7503also.25.2674 
21DCB_int_0127.0492What part?27.4395
22DCB_se3_ag1_m_0128.7041Um,29.4448
24 31.5277Capitol Heights.32.3718 
25DCB_int_0132.5220Capitol Heights.33.3394
27 33.4429How long did you live there?34.3137 
28DCB_se3_ag1_m_0134.5139For about35.0686
30 36.2564I wanna say ten years.37.3709 
32 39.6548<clears throat>40.2696 
33DCB_int_0147.0586Mkay.47.4635
35 47.6358Are you in high school now?48.6535 
36DCB_se3_ag1_m_0148.7803Yes.49.3208
37DCB_int_0149.5444You're a high school senior?50.8780
38DCB_se3_ag1_m_0150.9324Yes.51.3779
39DCB_int_0151.3728Oh my goodness.52.6749
40 53.4690My little Torch Club president.54.9805
41DCB_se3_ag1_m_0155.0339<sigh>55.2641
42DCB_int_0155.2207So where are you going to school56.2584
43 56.4686next year?56.9910
44DCB_se3_ag1_m_0157.0258I'm looking at Hampton, Howard,58.9502
46 59.2947Bowie,60.0435 
48 61.2808Norfolk State.62.0148 
49DCB_int_0163.0625Look at you. What do you wanna go to school for?64.9410
50DCB_se3_ag1_m_0164.9852I wanna major in political science66.8103
51DCB_int_0167.0839[Aw.]67.4776
52DCB_se3_ag1_m_0167.1807[with a minor] in psychology.68.4766
53DCB_int_0168.6821Cause you're the little Torch Club president.70.4265
55 70.6674You're never gonna live that down, you know you're gonna be like fifty I'm'a be [like, oh my little] Torch Club, you know that right? Okay, long as you know.75.8571 
56DCB_se3_ag1_m_0172.6668[I know.]73.1646
57DCB_int_0176.7308As long as you know, so.78.1930
59 78.5768Where else did you go, like where did you- um, where do you go to high school?81.0391 
60DCB_se3_ag1_m_0181.7198<ts> /RD-SCHOOL-3/.82.7241
61DCB_int_0182.8184/RD-SCHOOL-3/.83.6025
63 84.6802Where'd you go to middle school?86.1090 
64DCB_se3_ag1_m_0186.2584/RD-SCHOOL-3/.87.0348
65DCB_int_0187.0225Okay.87.6431
66 88.1903And elementary school?89.6183
67DCB_se3_ag1_m_0189.6225/RD-SCHOOL-3/.90.5234
68DCB_int_0191.0472<laugh>92.3548
70 92.8656Where was your dad born?93.8409 
71DCB_se3_ag1_m_0194.1536Washington DC.94.9300
72DCB_int_0197.1740And your mom?97.9344
73DCB_se3_ag1_m_0198.0682Washington [DC.]98.9657
74DCB_int_0198.8890[Oh], oh okay.99.6030
75 100.1102Okay.100.4861
77 100.6482And your little dog?101.6597 
78DCB_se3_ag1_m_01101.8827[Washington DC.] (laughing)103.1106
79DCB_int_01101.8928[Washington DC.]103.0319
80 103.3475<laugh>104.4853
82 106.5873What does your dad do?107.3122 
84 107.4824What does he /do/ [for work?]108.4600 
85DCB_se3_ag1_m_01107.9862[He has-]108.3432
86 108.5300He has his own cleaning business.109.8980
87DCB_int_01112.2437Is he successful?113.0375
88DCB_se3_ag1_m_01113.1821Very successful.114.2264
89DCB_int_01117.0825What kind of cleaning business?118.1469
90DCB_se3_ag1_m_01118.5373What do you call 'em?119.5140
92 120.1263Like-120.3905 
94 121.2074like, commercial buildings, companies.123.9334 
95DCB_int_01123.9567Like, pressure washing?124.9844
97 125.0978Or [like,]125.8423 
98DCB_se3_ag1_m_01125.4723[Mm-mm.]125.8279
99DCB_int_01126.0329going inside like,126.9571
101 127.8747h- like,128.4185 
102DCB_se3_ag1_m_01128.6755[Emptying-]129.1926
103DCB_int_01128.7589[house] like129.4952
104DCB_se3_ag1_m_01129.5697[House cleaning, yeah.]130.5740
105DCB_int_01129.7599[house cleaning kind of] thing.130.8033
106DCB_se3_ag1_m_01130.8309[Basically] yes.131.6750
107DCB_int_01130.9377[Oh.]131.3339
108 132.3032Okay.132.7458
110 133.4643What's the name of his business?134.3818 
111DCB_se3_ag1_m_01134.7422Um,135.3967
113 136.7341/RD-NAME-1/137.2696 
115 137.7226/RD-NAME-1/138.1530 
117 138.3632/RD-NAME-2/138.7565 
119 138.9338Cleaning.139.3108 
121 139.4943So it's139.8547 
123 140.5687/RD-NAME-2/, cause his last name is /RD-NAME-2/ and his first name is /RD-NAME-2/.143.1812 
125 143.6992/RD-NAME-3/144.4133 
126DCB_int_01144.6835[/RD-NAME-3/]145.2582
127DCB_se3_ag1_m_01144.7035[Cleaning.]145.1302
128DCB_int_01145.3775/RD-NAME-3/.145.9514
130 146.0315Okay, and what does your mom do?147.2883 
131DCB_se3_ag1_m_01147.4329She works for the Boys and Girls Club of greater Washington.149.6550
132DCB_int_01154.3304Alrighty.155.2055
134 156.7069So,157.3295 
136 157.7512tell me a little bit about-159.2431 
138 159.4229<clears throat>159.8700 
140 160.2904tell me a little bit about gro- So did you grow up in Capitol Heights or did you grow up in DC?164.0012 
141DCB_se3_ag1_m_01164.7689I grew up- I grew up in Capitol Heights.166.6345
143 166.9944But I- everything I did was in the city.168.7243 
144DCB_int_01169.3208Okay so tell me how'd that work?170.6021
145DCB_se3_ag1_m_01171.8700So,172.2821
147 172.5106I grew up in Capitol Heights and I always had family so I always came in the city175.9559 
149 176.6121t- for like, different reason like to go see family or to hang out with friends and stuff.181.2241 
151 181.5143But Capitol Heights is just like where182.8089 
153 183.3361I lived at. And184.2437 
155 184.3304I had also had friends and stuff out there but186.3599 
157 186.5934this is where187.2241 
159 187.4509I consider my188.2217 
161 188.5587home base is DC.189.9000 
162DCB_int_01190.1569Mm-hm.190.5690
164 191.3189Like, when you say family, who- who lived in the city?193.7308 
165DCB_se3_ag1_m_01194.0315Oh my m- my mom's side of the family, and my dad's side,197.2750
167 197.5357like my grandmother.198.5269 
169 199.3275Um, my cousins.200.7022 
171 201.4295My aunt and uncles, everybody lived in the city.203.7685 
172DCB_int_01204.1497So how did y'all end up in- h- how'd you end up in Capitol [Heights?]206.8323
173DCB_se3_ag1_m_01206.7389[When] my mother bought a house she moved out there.209.0536
174DCB_int_01209.7459Okay.210.0420
175DCB_se3_ag1_m_01210.1263She bought a house out in Maryland.211.7312
177 213.0158And then when I was born, that's where215.0995 
179 215.2688she215.6447 
181 215.7493/already/ her residence /where/.216.9037 
183 217.4843So that's where I lived.218.5787 
184DCB_int_01219.0725Okay but then you move221.0059
186 221.4623[back into DC.]222.9586 
187DCB_se3_ag1_m_01221.7726[Back]222.0963
189 222.2298[to city],222.8403 
190 222.9738[yes.]223.4455
191DCB_int_01223.2040[Okay] why'd y'all move back to DC?224.8890
192DCB_se3_ag1_m_01224.9591Because we were noticing that226.5573
194 228.4333we were getting- my parents were getting older.230.4969 
196 231.1059And my grandparents-232.2370 
198 233.0211my grandfather passed away234.4800 
200 235.2007on July third two thousand fourteen.237.3428 
202 238.2804And /?/238.8276 
204 239.3789my grandmother didn't wanna sell the house so she wanted to keep it inside of the family.242.4819 
206 242.7722And at that time we wanted to come back into the city.245.0711 
208 245.5758So,246.0296 
210 246.5534we moved in there and, um,248.6288 
212 248.8690every since then we've been there.250.1235 
213DCB_int_01250.5773So do you live with your grandmother now?251.9676
214DCB_se3_ag1_m_01252.0429Mm-mm, no she ha- she has her own- um,254.0572
216 254.4319she has- she wanted to be like on one level.256.7466 
218 257.0353So it's like a senior citizen living.258.5334 
219DCB_int_01258.8036Mm-hm.259.1406
220DCB_se3_ag1_m_01259.1206And easy access and all that.260.7242
221DCB_int_01261.3394So you- your- you and your family263.4448
222DCB_se3_ag1_m_01263.6458Mm-hm.263.9328
223DCB_int_01263.9194live264.3565
224 264.6001in your grandmother- in your family home266.4619
225DCB_se3_ag1_m_01266.4486[Yes.]266.8923
226DCB_int_01266.7989[But] your grandmother has moved to like an assisted living home.269.3447
227DCB_se3_ag1_m_01269.3456Yes,269.7760
229 269.9128like a condo /and stuff./271.0622 
230DCB_int_01270.9204Oh okay, okay.271.8841
231 272.5253So,273.4629
233 275.2455talk about276.1263 
235 276.8036the ch- like, talk about278.2350 
237 279.2026where you played the most, like whichever neighborhood you remember.282.0464 
239 282.4833Like, w- if you played [outside, if you] were in the house most. Talk about- tell me about that.286.0305 
240DCB_se3_ag1_m_01283.8780[Mm-hm.]284.1915
241 286.1069I played outside mostly like, growing up and stuff. /I-/288.9204
243 289.3008I had like different friends. So I'm very a outgoing person like,291.8099 
245 292.2437I'm not the type of person that sit back. I'm not shy at all.295.0105 
247 296.3051And296.6955 
249 297.4762always I'll- wherever I went I will always make friends or be a sociable person, so it wasn't easy for me-303.1493 
251 303.7131it wasn't hard, I'm sorry. It wasn't hard for me to go out306.1291 
253 306.5300and like play with kids, I al- always had fun. We'd like, play309.4929 
255 309.9200like games like Manhunt,311.4390 
257 311.5591tag.312.2364 
259 313.3108We did sack races cause wherever I live-315.2894 
261 315.4229where I lived, it was in the woods.316.9151 
263 317.3122And it was like a community,318.4166 
265 318.8137like houses built in the woods. So we always had like,321.1593 
267 321.5096landfills, tennis court, basketball courts.324.3332 
269 325.4276Yeah.325.6990 
270DCB_int_01326.0649What's Manhunt? I have no clue. [Ex-] explain to me how to play it.329.1512
271DCB_se3_ag1_m_01327.6864[So-]328.0507
273 329.1445so it's like-330.0229 
274 330.1730Cause we lived in the woods so our houses were in the back of like, woods.334.2437
276 334.6474So we would335.2054 
278 335.6525run, we would start in like one /pecific/ place,338.0194 
280 339.1059and one team had- well, one person341.3547 
282 341.6525had to look for everybody on that team.343.9046 
284 344.2584And normally it'll be like, fifteen of us.346.1269 
286 346.5740And it would be like, two people that they would-348.7469 
288 349.0405they would go out and look for us. And we had this350.7188 
290 351.0558whole development that was like about352.9110 
292 353.1420I wanna say like,353.6692 
294 354.7903a acre and355.7712 
296 356.1750some-356.4419 
298 356.6021some change.357.3595 
300 358.0301So, you know, and they would have to look for us throughout the whole acre.360.5108 
301DCB_int_01361.6678So it's like hide and go seek but different.363.4800
302DCB_se3_ag1_m_01363.4829Right.363.8933
304 364.6040We would hide- we would hide in the- we would hide in trees, on the playground.368.5186 
306 370.4639Yeah.370.7808 
307DCB_int_01370.7975So how many people could play at one time?372.5267
308DCB_se3_ag1_m_01372.5367It-372.6235
310 372.8237it doesn't matter. Cause everywhere I lived374.6621 
312 375.0091families would always come376.8242 
314 377.1620into town, so378.0496 
316 378.3265it would range. Like one time it was like,380.4325 
318 381.1793ten of us.381.9067 
320 382.4372It was like, twenty.383.4123 
322 383.5624Most of us it's been thirty.384.8270 
323DCB_int_01385.9614Wow.386.2317
325 386.3552So do you have a- you have a big family, clearly.388.1344 
326DCB_se3_ag1_m_01388.1302Yes.388.6073
327DCB_int_01389.0144So how many sisters and brothers do you have?390.5300
328DCB_se3_ag1_m_01390.5334I have two.391.1373
329DCB_int_01391.5911Two sisters or a brother [and sister?]393.2150
330DCB_se3_ag1_m_01392.7555[I have a brother] and a sister.394.0535
331DCB_int_01394.3971Are you the baby?395.1402
332DCB_se3_ag1_m_01395.2713Yes.395.7604
333DCB_int_01396.3899Are you spoiled?397.1139
335 398.4686Yes.398.9190 
336DCB_se3_ag1_m_01399.5330[<laugh>]400.4806
337DCB_int_01399.8967[Yes.]400.4191
338 400.8309Yes, that's a yes. Okay.402.6034
339DCB_se3_ag1_m_01402.6201[<laugh>]403.1073
340DCB_int_01402.8537[I'm glad] we got that cleared up.403.9153
341DCB_se3_ag1_m_01403.8980<laugh>404.2884
342DCB_int_01404.6821Um, <clears throat> so you [have a lot of] cousins and stuff?406.8976
343DCB_se3_ag1_m_01405.6698[<clears throat>]406.1135
345 406.8876Yes.407.4086 
346DCB_int_01408.1897And so when you played these games409.8847
348 410.3618did you- did you like, ride your bikes and stuff?412.0496 
349DCB_se3_ag1_m_01412.0868Mm-hm, [we would] do that.412.9919
350DCB_int_01412.2870[/?/]412.5306
351DCB_se3_ag1_m_01413.3389I alway- I had a bike and I had a scooter, an el- little electric scooter. So I would be417.8099
353 418.1736in the neighborhood with that419.0544 
355 419.2955mostly.419.8027 
356DCB_int_01420.6435Okay.421.1406
358 421.2774So- okay so you played games with your little [friends and your] cousins.425.7218 
359DCB_se3_ag1_m_01424.4739[Mm-hm.]424.8947
360DCB_int_01426.1363Um, were you all like, the same age or were some of them older?429.3294
361DCB_se3_ag1_m_01430.6807We were mostly the same age but it was always older-432.7575
363 432.8904s- a few older people.433.9781 
364DCB_int_01434.3752And they still played too?435.1559
365DCB_se3_ag1_m_01435.1359Mm-hm, they were like, twelve, we were like,436.7174
366 436.9410I wanna say eight.437.6592
367DCB_int_01437.9795Oh.438.1430
368DCB_se3_ag1_m_01438.1297Like, four years difference.439.4590
369DCB_int_01440.2584So-441.0014
371 441.3027okay, so let's talk about /RD-SCHOOL-3/ cause clearly443.9680 
373 444.1063you went to that school.445.5210 
374DCB_se3_ag1_m_01445.9014Since first grade.447.1326
375DCB_int_01447.1793Y- so you've447.9852
377 448.4372always known that school, you haven't known anything else. So tell [me a little] bit about the school.451.6384 
378DCB_se3_ag1_m_01450.5701[Right.]450.9132
379 452.0749So it- it's a school453.3561
381 453.8466that just was found I wanna say in two thousand four.456.8437 
383 457.5110It hasn't been around that long.458.6232 
385 459.4162Our- my class will be like, the fourth-462.3332 
387 462.5701yeah, the fourth class to graduate from the /RD-SCHOOL-3/ high school part.465.5016 
389 467.5724And it's a- it's a charter school.469.2140 
391 469.7145It was originally found by /RD-NAME-3/.471.7031 
393 471.8499I think she- she works for the mayor now.473.6158 
395 473.7493I forgot what she does for the mayor.475.0728 
397 475.8480And476.3518 
399 476.6021yeah.476.9657 
400DCB_int_01477.5763Do you like school?478.2979
401DCB_se3_ag1_m_01478.7475I do.479.1756
402DCB_int_01480.8137What's your favorite subject?481.8905
403DCB_se3_ag1_m_01482.4686<clears throat>482.9791
405 483.9534I would have to say sociology.486.3232 
406DCB_int_01486.8971Why?487.2134
407DCB_se3_ag1_m_01487.7712Because it- it-488.5587
409 488.9524it ha-489.3617 
411 489.7999You think about-490.7208 
413 490.9151when you think about sociology,492.0763 
415 492.8537it492.9771 
417 493.4042it has a lot to do with the mind and what you believe. And I like how it's no right or wrong answer. It's indifferent499.0405 
419 499.5610but it's no right or wrong answers.501.0141 
421 501.5096You ha- may have a person that think one way while you have another person that thinks another way.505.2074 
423 506.0749And506.4419 
425 507.5730like the different topics from-509.5216 
427 510.2431from poverty to red lining to513.1526 
429 513.8599segregation in classroom, segregation in education.516.7903 
431 517.1640You have different topics that you can518.6054 
433 518.9924get519.1793 
435 519.9801people different opinions from different walks522.6168 
437 523.0806of life.523.7879 
438DCB_int_01523.9114Mm-hm.524.2984
439DCB_se3_ag1_m_01524.6988And to come together and hear about it and share personal stories, I like that.528.5467
440DCB_int_01529.3675So, let me ask you this then. [Do you] think-532.0735
441DCB_se3_ag1_m_01531.1025[Mm-hm.]531.4755
442DCB_int_01533.2279um,533.8160
444 535.1540do you think-536.1641 
446 537.8333When you hear these stories, how do-540.2197 
448 540.4066how do you- how do they make you feel? Like when you hear people's543.0558 
450 543.3995different opinions,544.4972 
452 545.3489what do you do with that?546.1930 
453DCB_se3_ag1_m_01547.0369I internalize it.548.1449
455 548.3985And I could-548.9591 
457 549.2060my thing is I can agree with you or I can disagree but you would never know552.1230 
459 552.6301that-552.9371 
461 553.7679you would never know that I don't- I don't-555.5080 
463 556.6007I don't like your opinion because I would do it very respectfully.559.5444 
465 560.1816And it's different when you-561.3695 
467 561.5930you have to-562.1235 
469 562.5306you have to say,563.2112 
471 563.3989well I see what you're saying but then again,565.2274 
473 565.5644it- it doesn't make sense but I'll-567.2460 
475 567.4162I'll follow along with you.568.6908 
476DCB_int_01569.6559So when people don't- Oh. So wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. So when people say something that doesn't make sense,574.0234
477DCB_se3_ag1_m_01574.1135Mm-hm.574.4734
478DCB_int_01574.7450do you try to576.1367
480 576.9972not necessarily correct them but do you try to like,578.9632 
482 580.2270give them a different view point [or just] go with it?582.1263 
483DCB_se3_ag1_m_01581.3456[Right.]581.6725
484 582.2131No, I give them a like different view point mostly.585.0759
485DCB_int_01585.6231<ts> So,586.0401
487 586.2270let's think about the last conversation you had with somebody [that] it just was like,589.9940 
488DCB_se3_ag1_m_01588.7936[Mm-hm.]589.1056
489DCB_int_01590.3018you- what you saying doesn't-591.4963
491 591.7999you- this is crazy. [Tell me about] that.593.3353 
492DCB_se3_ag1_m_01592.6641[Right.]592.9543
493 595.6745I wanna say596.5754
495 597.8833the last con- I have had599.2649 
497 603.6664with one of my peers605.3189 
499 605.8794it was about our606.6708 
501 606.8737current president now607.8751 
502DCB_int_01608.2484Mm-hm.608.6460
503DCB_se3_ag1_m_01608.8623which is Donald Trump.609.8599
504DCB_int_01610.0902Mm-hm.610.3704
505DCB_se3_ag1_m_01611.6458<clears throat>611.8229
507 612.5567And he's612.9471 
509 613.1807thinks that Donald Trump is very illiterate, he thinks he doesn't know nothing.616.6941 
511 617.6959And I told him, I was like,619.0572 
513 620.0282you620.2017 
515 620.5287can't-620.9481 
517 621.3928you can't get mad at him.622.6274 
519 622.7016First of all you have to think,623.7760 
521 623.9862he's a business man.625.0598 
523 626.3418I agree that some of the stuff that- majority,628.4338 
525 628.5506let's say majority, not some but majority630.7275 
527 631.0372of the stuff that he's doing is wrong632.8790 
529 633.6631and it's gonna affect people lives,635.3114 
531 636.1597people's household and people638.0682 
533 638.3652work ability.639.2054 
535 640.6207But also we have to think about- we have to hear him out, we have to come to like, a common ground.645.1587 
537 645.4262Cause he's gonna be our president for the next four years.647.5916 
539 647.9094Or might648.4366 
541 648.6802be even eight.649.5077 
543 650.4386So let's-650.8990 
545 651.3895let's stop652.0034 
547 652.2203pointing the finger where653.5925 
549 654.0396we all should sit down and have a conversation656.4119 
551 657.0425on what this side- this is what you believe and this is what I believe.660.2431 
553 660.6268And let's try to have both our ideas coexist663.4506 
555 663.7599so we can coexist.664.9810 
557 665.7560That make sense?666.5934 
558DCB_int_01666.6068Mm-hm.667.0117
559DCB_se3_ag1_m_01667.8113[So-]668.1516
560DCB_int_01667.9381[And what] did your friend say?668.9525
561DCB_se3_ag1_m_01669.4429He was like, I never thought of that. He was like, /RD-NAME-3/ you make-672.0930
563 672.8770you make good points.674.0715 
565 674.4386I said, yeah you have to-675.3661 
567 675.6664you have to just go above and beyond. You also have to think about your point about-679.5277 
569 679.9915while the person over there is thinking about the same point if not different than you.683.7818 
571 683.9261You have to-684.4356 
573 684.7273you have to learn how to coexist.686.0816 
574DCB_int_01686.4119Mm-hm.686.8153
576 687.9967So what happens when-689.2188 
578 693.9667What happens when people don't see it your way?695.7210 
580 696.2531Or don't even wanna listen to you?697.6945 
582 698.5854Like they don't feel like you have something valid to say.700.5006 
583DCB_se3_ag1_m_01700.4806Right.700.7842
584DCB_int_01700.8776What do you do?701.4102
585DCB_se3_ag1_m_01702.2298I still state my reason, and if you don't like it, that's- that's-705.5763
587 705.7098that's your prerogative, that's your decision.707.6461 
589 709.2040I don't-709.6568 
591 709.8780I don't710.3818 
593 710.7288shy them down or dumb them down, be like, oh,713.3647 
595 713.7660you- you're not listening to me, you're not right anyway I just-716.1865 
597 716.4452I state my thing,717.2794 
599 717.5063state my reason,718.4801 
601 719.0745and719.5749 
603 720.3532if you don't like it,721.4276 
605 722.3184or if you don't agree with it723.6698 
607 724.5106I continue on.725.5716 
609 728.4819Cause whatever- what-729.6064 
611 729.9233mm, what you might find731.3981 
613 732.0796and you may think that what I think is734.1249 
615 734.6521um, dumb.735.4128 
617 735.7932Another person might find737.0369 
619 737.2822clarity in a question that they might have.739.4032 
620DCB_int_01739.8513Hm.740.0615
621DCB_se3_ag1_m_01740.0148And look at it like,740.7879
622 741.2660oh I didn't think of it like that.742.8232
624 744.0095While you over here, you judging me because you didn't like my-746.5453 
626 747.1526you didn't like my opinion that I gave you749.2713 
628 749.7459on something that may-751.1206 
630 751.7846I may be wrong or you may be wrong.753.4996 
632 754.7441You know what I'm saying?755.2813 
633DCB_int_01755.3981Mm-hm, I do.756.1030
635 756.8337So let me ask you this.757.8880 
636DCB_se3_ag1_m_01757.8346Mm-hm.758.1249
637DCB_int_01758.3418Because you seem to be like a very760.3404
639 760.9910wise seventeen year old, like you763.1907 
641 763.2808sound like you're like an old-764.9624 
642DCB_se3_ag1_m_01765.0725Old [man.]765.7332
643DCB_int_01765.5230[an] old man, y- you've probably gotten this before.767.4296
644DCB_se3_ag1_m_01767.4390/I've have./768.0562
645DCB_int_01768.3693Yup.768.7786
647 769.4194Um,770.1839 
649 771.0978<ts> So let's take a step back cause [I'm'a ask] you some more questions kind of about [politics] and- and- and life and stuff, but I [wanna]777.3864 
650DCB_se3_ag1_m_01772.1930[Mm-hm.]772.4948
652 773.9241[Mm-hm.]774.2013 
654 777.0612[Mm-hm.]777.3181 
655DCB_int_01777.6060take a step back.778.3362
657 778.5375What was your favorite memory in elementary school?781.9262 
659 782.9104Like your favorite moment, whether it was a silly moment or you got a special prize, or788.2326 
661 788.6365you did something fun. What was your- that790.3808 
663 790.5565favorite moment? Maybe at school, or even at- at home.793.5331 
664DCB_se3_ag1_m_01796.5024I wanna say-797.5393
666 806.9781I wanna say when I was in fifth grade,808.6785 
668 810.1284I r-810.7128 
670 810.9852um,811.6398 
672 813.1392we had a little speech814.4705 
674 815.1208and I talked.816.2148 
676 816.6366It's on YouTube.817.3967 
678 818.7148And it was about Abraham Lincoln.821.0644 
680 821.8706And I822.3364 
682 822.6132went up there with my suit823.5798 
684 824.0367and I said, da da da da da da.825.4823 
686 826.1677And then once827.2233 
688 827.7242I heard the applause829.0071 
690 830.2769I was- I was out blown because as me I was like really shy. I didn't wanna go up there first of all.835.2858 
692 835.9064I didn't wanna talk.836.9521 
694 837.8177My mom and dad, they was like, you should,839.7261 
696 840.8274you'll- you'll blow it out the park. And842.6826 
698 842.8232all of my friends, they had bigger lines than me and my little four sentence846.9314 
700 847.3356on a flip card848.4296 
702 849.0887that I had to study.850.2091 
704 850.8121They came up to me while they had like, paragraphs and I had like a853.8526 
706 854.1470four sentences.854.9263 
708 855.8429And they said, I think you did a good job, you did very well.858.6888 
710 859.3854That was a big moment for me.860.5805 
712 861.9206Cause after that I spoke in front of864.3020 
714 864.6051hundreds of people.865.6849 
715DCB_int_01867.8532So you think that was kind of the moment that helped you get over your [fears of /???/?]871.6532
716DCB_se3_ag1_m_01870.9332[Mm-hm, and my] mom and dad was there.872.8884
717DCB_int_01875.2709Was that important to you?876.2771
718DCB_se3_ag1_m_01876.2814Yes.876.8526
719DCB_int_01876.9757Why?877.3486
720DCB_se3_ag1_m_01877.8720It's important to have somebody in your corner especially if somebody that cares about you and they know you.882.8545
722 884.2000And they know the kind of character that you have and they see886.6561 
724 887.7853where you gonna go in life.889.2203 
726 890.2941that's monumental.891.3497 
727DCB_int_01894.9614Did you like middle school?896.1050
728DCB_se3_ag1_m_01904.3255Yes.904.9002
729DCB_int_01905.1394Yes, but you gave me a face [so.]907.1145
730DCB_se3_ag1_m_01906.6685[I know.]907.0990
731 907.2001Yes.907.6790
732DCB_int_01907.6614So tell me what the face is about [and then] the yes.910.0297
733DCB_se3_ag1_m_01909.1509[But it-]909.4629
734 910.1131it-910.4034
736 910.5833it- it had its ups and [downs.]912.5959 
737DCB_int_01912.3408[Mm.]913.0306
738 913.1844Yup.913.5718
739DCB_se3_ag1_m_01914.0115It has its ups and downs because915.4658
741 916.4851you're at a point where917.6432 
743 919.1697you're-919.5695 
745 919.7936you're- you're still a child but you're put into a category922.7165 
747 922.9714of pre-teens.924.1972 
749 925.6999And926.1129 
751 927.8133you-928.3405 
753 928.6261you get- you /graph/ more.930.5297 
755 931.0965Within- between- between six, seven, and- and eighth grade you-935.0640 
757 936.2020you start to realize in- internal things differently as939.8189 
759 939.9109you were- than you- than you were a little kid.942.3408 
761 943.1100And you start to think about944.4897 
763 945.0301and interact with people differently or947.1182 
765 947.4961watch different things or listen to different music950.6727 
767 951.1033and stuff. I think that's when you really become953.0893 
769 953.7352the person that you later become in life.955.6058 
771 956.3066In sixth grade, and seven and eighth, between them years those our most959.3295 
773 959.6107crucial.960.1291 
774DCB_int_01962.4765So what happened in middle school that you feel like shaped who you are now?965.6707
775DCB_se3_ag1_m_01970.9091Um,971.4627
777 974.9426I lost- well,976.1333 
779 977.3547I lost-977.9622 
781 978.4499I lost a-979.2144 
783 979.5175he was a administrator, he was the guy981.1432 
785 981.7408at the school.982.5141 
787 982.9271He actually committed suicide.984.2803 
789 986.3245And986.9001 
791 988.1172thinking about that989.0355 
793 989.8088and stuff, and also when I lost my cousin991.8606 
795 992.9766that was- that was very-994.1552 
797 994.6078that was very monumental for me.996.2598 
799 996.6157Both of those events they happened back to back.998.5929 
801 999.0630He died999.7221 
803 1000.1966on a weekday, and then my cousin died the following weekend.1003.1035 
805 1004.5695I was very sad because1006.0590 
807 1009.0873when y- when you're y- when you're young1011.1524 
809 1011.3018and stuff you don't-1012.0399 
811 1012.7385you- you think that you have all the time in the world. And to see somebody that's not that much older than you1017.6079 
813 1018.2801by like four years pass in front of you,1020.1211 
815 1020.4198you start to think about stuff and1022.0455 
817 1022.3663you start to-1023.0385 
819 1023.3988you start to act out a little bit.1025.1958 
821 1026.1460You start to say, oh, I'm gonna go in the classroom but I'm not gonna do no work today cause I don't feel like it.1030.2102 
823 1030.6583Or, today is not my day. Or,1032.1917 
825 1032.7366he keeps messing with me. Or,1034.6621 
827 1035.2113different- different little knick knacks and stuff.1037.3115 
829 1039.6182And you just- it starts to-1041.0868 
831 1041.3592it starts to play a role because1042.9937 
833 1044.3294when you s- when the teachers hand y- hands out that paper, they don't say,1048.0992 
835 1048.7945good morning, how you doing, they don't say none of that. They just hand you1051.7911 
837 1052.1250the paper and then they expect you to do your work.1054.0116 
839 1054.4493But while you're sitting there thinking and stuff and you have a lot of stuff that's going on and happening around you.1059.0813 
841 1060.0919You-1060.3292 
843 1061.3090like your friends or1062.5875 
845 1062.9127your grades are not where you want them to be. You-1065.1765 
847 1065.4841you think- while you have that test and you have that1067.8875 
849 1068.2038twenty minutes to be quiet,1069.4912 
851 1069.9877you think about1070.8049 
853 1071.0026what's going on.1071.7602 
855 1072.5240And you internalize it.1073.7542 
857 1077.0802And then you /?/1077.6075 
859 1078.3808you- you may get mad, or you may storm out the classroom or you may just sit there and shut down.1082.4065 
861 1084.4716Yeah.1084.8010 
862DCB_int_011085.0032Hm.1085.2456
864 1085.4514Did you do those things?1086.6298 
865DCB_se3_ag1_m_011087.3934I- I shut down, yes.1088.9367
867 1090.8128Storm out the classroom, no I've n- I've never did that.1093.3700 
869 1095.7778No.1095.9911 
870DCB_int_011097.7912So how do you think you came out of that-1099.7288
872 1100.1155that moment, or that y- kind of that dark period?1102.6682 
874 1102.8835What helped you come out of that period?1104.4291 
875DCB_se3_ag1_m_011106.9532I-1107.2432
877 1107.4277I was talking1108.6888 
879 1108.8952to somebody.1109.6246 
881 1110.1694I would talk to my mom, or I would talk to people.1112.4421 
883 1112.7013Because when you're around people,1114.1117 
885 1114.4500or you know it's people that care about you,1116.4135 
887 1118.3033you go to them for advice and they tell you that you can do it.1121.1577 
889 1121.8062And when-1122.3818 
891 1122.7552all you need is confidence, and when you have confidence that's the key to everything1126.3405 
893 1126.6569in life.1127.0973 
895 1127.9937Like you have to have confidence.1129.3337 
897 1129.7292You have to have confidence to talk to the person and tell 'em what you1132.0535 
899 1132.2512about to talk about or what you just did.1134.2855 
901 1134.7029That's- that takes confidence.1136.3152 
902DCB_int_011136.5493Mm.1136.9093
903DCB_se3_ag1_m_011138.0520And when somebody buil- helps build up that confidence that's in you,1141.3824
905 1142.9246you brush all of that under the rug and you keep going.1145.2060 
906DCB_int_011147.9170What do you think helped build your confidence the most?1150.0926
907DCB_se3_ag1_m_011150.7290My family1151.5385
909 1152.1009and my friends.1152.9797 
911 1154.2758And the Boys and Girls Club.1155.5632 
912DCB_int_011156.6572Mm. Tell me- tell me about-1158.3840
914 1158.6432tell me about your fam-1159.6241 
916 1159.7427tell me about each of those things actually,1161.2396 
918 1161.5046like how you think they helped contribute to that.1163.8245 
919DCB_se3_ag1_m_011163.8816Cause they're always there.1165.1094
920DCB_int_011165.4677Mm.1165.7537
921DCB_se3_ag1_m_011167.3757It's- it goes above and beyond of the call of duty.1170.3063
923 1170.8248Even though that doesn't make sense, but1172.2615 
925 1172.7141family can go above and beyond.1174.2799 
927 1175.2756It's not one person in my family that I have gotten none advice from1178.5808 
929 1179.1784on how to1179.7364 
931 1180.5492do better1181.1775 
933 1181.9113or what to do.1183.0976 
935 1185.2911They- they teach me everything.1187.2332 
937 1187.5100From our cousins1188.6480 
939 1189.3290to my-1189.9265 
941 1190.5504to my aunt and my uncles to my mom and my dad to my sister1194.0944 
943 1194.4356to my,1195.0068 
945 1195.8943um,1196.3732 
947 1196.7818grandparents.1197.8282 
949 1200.1705My friends, I'm around positive people, I don't like negative energy. If I feel like1204.5818 
951 1205.0651you1205.3595 
953 1205.6143giving me negative energy I'm'a go the opposite way, cause I got a future ahead of me.1208.9290 
955 1209.4511And I can't let none of that,1210.9714 
957 1211.5733none of the outsiders or the negative energy distract me from getting to where I need to be.1215.7792 
959 1216.4163And also the Boys and Girls Club because1218.1430 
961 1220.2037to surround1221.2846 
963 1222.1117adults1222.9992 
965 1223.3068and to be around kids that have the same dream1225.7321 
967 1226.0045as1226.3209 
969 1226.6328you, to be great in life1228.0652 
971 1228.4738or to be successful or-1229.6759 
973 1229.9264or whatever you wanna do.1231.1726 
975 1231.4626And to have1231.9502 
977 1232.1700adults1232.7016 
979 1232.8159behind you1233.6068 
981 1233.9451that supports you, and1235.1577 
983 1235.6191on Saturdays while you at home doing nothing they have activities planned for you to1239.6360 
985 1240.0578go to like a1240.8136 
987 1241.2705event, or learn how to be leaders.1243.4234 
989 1243.7398Or take you on field trips or-1245.2117 
991 1245.6291or go to events.1246.8824 
993 1248.3235So it's different stuff that the Boys and Girls Club do.1251.2454 
995 1251.7067And at the end of the day,1252.7261 
997 1254.5769these people have lives and they sacrifice1256.4970 
999 1256.8397their time1257.5119 
1001 1257.9821to make1258.4258 
1003 1258.7026sure that these kids have smile on their faces.1260.9346 
1005 1261.8057And I like that. That's-1262.9964 
1007 1263.3347that's-1263.6774 
1009 1263.7697I don't think you can get- you can't get that at any1265.6722 
1011 1265.8172other school,1266.6520 
1013 1267.7812any1268.1766 
1015 1268.3787other-1268.7851 
1017 1269.3937any other place where kids1270.8447 
1019 1271.5125could be.1271.9827 
1021 1272.7472But you get that here at the Boys and Girls Club.1274.5881 
1022DCB_int_011275.8887What do you think about-1277.0223
1024 1278.7809<ts> What do you- Mm, let me ask you, I have two questions [actually.]1281.1974 
1025DCB_se3_ag1_m_011280.8459[Mm-hm.]1281.1855
1026DCB_int_011281.5357What's been your most fun memory1283.1922
1028 1283.5568at the club?1284.2534 
1029DCB_se3_ag1_m_011286.2249Becoming Torch Club president.1287.5914
1030DCB_int_011288.0527Oh yay, so tell me- tell me how that happened. Like, tell me1291.6160
1032 1291.8533how'd you get in-1292.5412 
1034 1292.7452First of all tell me what is Torch Club, and like tell me how you got involved,1296.3580 
1035DCB_se3_ag1_m_011294.1962Mm-hm.1294.5609
1036DCB_int_011296.8105why'd you wanna run for president? Tell me that whole kind of- l- what led up to all that.1300.3650
1037DCB_se3_ag1_m_011300.4749Well Torch Club is like a leadership program1302.5366
1039 1302.7212for ages I wanna say twelve1304.5885 
1041 1304.9971to fourteen.1305.7836 
1043 1307.0841It's a leadership program for kids1308.9295 
1045 1309.7566and to-1310.3542 
1047 1310.7892to become a better leader within the community.1313.3275 
1049 1314.1240And you do different like- different like, community activities and stuff like that.1318.2623 
1051 1320.8519And, um, what made me wanna do it1323.0241 
1053 1324.0242because I feel-1324.9776 
1055 1325.5455I was always that type of kid if somebody was doing something1328.0499 
1057 1328.7485different,1329.3065 
1059 1329.5394I would-1329.9832 
1061 1330.8004I would-1331.1255 
1063 1331.9779I would try to think outside the box.1333.5168 
1065 1333.9035I would wanna be different, I don't wanna do the same thing that you're doing, or-1337.0186 
1067 1337.4799Let me- let me-1338.6135 
1069 1338.7981let me just think about it differently than you.1341.6858 
1071 1344.7043And at that time it wasn't nobody that wanted to do that,1347.4284 
1073 1347.8063to become a president.1349.1719 
1075 1349.9252They didn't wanna run. But after I ran, everybody else wanted to start [running.]1353.6335 
1076DCB_int_011353.4621[<laugh>]1354.1959
1077DCB_se3_ag1_m_011354.1827But that's okay.1354.9165
1078 1355.5843They wanted to, um-1356.6520
1080 1357.2814I was-1357.6856 
1082 1358.2919I was like, I think I'm a good leader, even though I haven't been here for a while.1361.6751 
1084 1362.7076I'm new,1363.4458 
1086 1364.8309Everybody1365.4680 
1088 1365.7624likes me.1366.4654 
1090 1367.6648So I think I should run for president.1369.3301 
1092 1369.6640I have- I'll- I can talk.1371.2501 
1094 1371.6104I can advocate for people.1373.0120 
1096 1373.7732I can- I can plan events.1375.5483 
1097DCB_int_011377.3849Did you win?1377.9648
1098DCB_se3_ag1_m_011378.2592Yes.1378.7733
1100 1379.1995Two times.1379.9201 
1101DCB_int_011381.0591<laugh>1381.4633
1103 1382.3597And so,1383.5328 
1105 1384.9080um,1385.7165 
1107 1388.4582how do you think-1389.4522 
1109 1389.6016When you talk about your friends, you also say that your friends were-1392.3624 
1111 1392.5366they helped build your confidence. How do you think your friends helped build your confidence?1396.1395 
1112DCB_se3_ag1_m_011396.3910We help build each other.1397.4719
1114 1397.5949Because I have a small group of friends.1399.5809 
1116 1401.1450I don't have-1401.8832 
1118 1402.0633I'm-1402.4203 
1120 1403.0256I wouldn't-1403.4929 
1122 1404.0713I'm known,1404.9072 
1124 1405.5750but I'm not like the star on the football team known.1408.0755 
1126 1408.5012I- I'm known, like if you asked a kid like there, oh that's /RD-NAME-3/, tha- oh yeah, you don't know /RD-NAME-3/?1412.8785 
1128 1413.4233But1413.7836 
1130 1414.7239when you're-1415.2335 
1132 1415.6509when you're around people,1417.0042 
1134 1417.1756you get to know who they are.1418.4761 
1136 1419.6932And you get to put 'em in a category of1421.7813 
1138 1423.1477okay,1423.6354 
1140 1423.8551I don't-1424.2005 
1142 1424.4834you okay,1425.2482 
1144 1426.2980I need to stay away from you, and1427.8238 
1146 1428.1489me and you, we good. We gonna be like this.1430.3150 
1148 1431.6902And you- you select 'em out,1433.5339 
1150 1435.0602and you choose,1436.1597 
1152 1437.4779and1437.9172 
1154 1438.0622you guys talk about life and1439.7978 
1156 1440.1756you-1440.5403 
1158 1440.7776you build each other up. You tell1442.5350 
1160 1442.8602each other what your problems is at home, or-1445.1067 
1162 1445.9545or1446.4773 
1164 1446.8288can you help me? And then it's like-1448.3051 
1166 1448.9466it's like a team1449.8429 
1168 1450.1856basically.1450.7579 
1170 1450.8853My friendship is like a team, like we-1452.5374 
1172 1452.8142we build on each other, we-1454.2597 
1174 1454.5761we help each other out.1455.5646 
1176 1456.1666Like today,1456.8095 
1178 1458.3063I didn't understand1459.4020 
1180 1459.7574something.1460.4351 
1182 1461.2864And we have a test1462.3013 
1184 1462.5518next1463.0043 
1186 1463.1537week. And so my friend sat down,1465.0345 
1188 1466.6775during her lunch period where she could be1468.3746 
1190 1468.5371eat lunch and socializing with other people1470.1672 
1192 1470.4396to sit down and explain1471.7690 
1194 1472.9133on how1473.6822 
1196 1473.9150the study guide is and how1475.6043 
1198 1476.0471certain questions that may be on the test and what I need to look for and1479.5462 
1200 1479.8213stuff like that.1480.5774 
1202 1483.6493Yeah like, you- you're there for each other.1485.6836 
1203DCB_int_011487.8454Do you think that, um-1489.6613
1205 1490.3849So, mm, let me ask you this before I ask you that one,1492.1875 
1206DCB_se3_ag1_m_011492.3456Mm-hm.1492.6268
1207DCB_int_011492.6180What has been your most favorite high school memory?1494.9291
1208DCB_se3_ag1_m_011496.9722Senior pictures.1497.8641
1209DCB_int_011498.4441Tell me about it.1499.0885
1210DCB_se3_ag1_m_011499.2756I just took1500.1851
1212 1500.4532all my senior pictures last week.1502.6544 
1214 1503.3969And that's a- that's a big accomplishment because believe it or not,1505.9321 
1216 1506.3232nowadays you don't-1507.1887 
1218 1508.4684you don't1508.8858 
1220 1509.1582see that many kids graduating from high school. I mean, it's common but it's not-1512.7435 
1222 1513.1345Like anything happen. I told my- I was telling my parents, I was like,1515.8861 
1224 1517.6480every year somebody in high school when they're about to graduate somebody gets-1521.0795 
1226 1521.2684somebody dies,1522.2930 
1228 1522.4470or they drop out.1523.2335 
1229DCB_int_011525.0569Mm.1525.3573
1230DCB_se3_ag1_m_011527.4779And in my family,1528.5895
1232 1529.6747I will be the first male to graduate from high school and1532.4395 
1234 1533.2567continue1534.0520 
1236 1534.4035to college.1535.1900 
1238 1535.6118No male has ever done that.1536.9706 
1240 1537.4439I will be the only male to do that.1538.8247 
1242 1539.4574And for me to have them pictures,1540.9996 
1244 1541.5268and1541.8212 
1246 1542.2869as a reminder say, oh this is where you were f-1544.4852 
1248 1544.6639eight years ago,1545.5187 
1250 1545.9996you did something.1546.9778 
1252 1547.1475You about to-1547.7055 
1254 1548.1624you about to be-1548.9896 
1256 1549.2740you about to be somebody's lawyer.1550.7108 
1258 1552.3716You gon- you gonna be something in life.1554.0511 
1260 1554.5564That's- that's a big accomplishment that1556.1821 
1262 1556.7533have that photo that showed you that you mastered one part of your life, you about to go on to the next.1561.3711 
1263DCB_int_011562.7518Hm, your dad didn't go to college?1564.3654
1264DCB_se3_ag1_m_011564.3116No.1564.6671
1265DCB_int_011565.8142No.1566.1553
1267 1566.8028But your dad's very [successful?]1568.1147 
1268DCB_se3_ag1_m_011567.9320[Very] successful.1568.9740
1269DCB_int_011570.0465So,1570.5181
1271 1570.8945do you think-1571.5707 
1273 1572.6212This not even the question I wanted to [ask you but] it kind of came up. [Do you] think that1575.6705 
1274DCB_se3_ag1_m_011573.6406[Mm-hm.]1573.9598
1276 1574.7038[/Right./]1575.0114 
1277DCB_int_011576.5712it takes going to college to be successful?1578.2227
1278DCB_se3_ag1_m_011578.4132No.1578.7955
1280 1580.0126No.1580.2868 
1282 1582.5302I don't- I don't think so.1583.8087 
1284 1584.5601It's plenty people out here that have government jobs and1586.8723 
1286 1587.1842that's doing stuff and this and that1589.1043 
1288 1589.8951that don't have a college degree.1591.3539 
1290 1592.2853I think1592.7862 
1292 1593.0454to go1593.5606 
1294 1594.0176now1594.5975 
1296 1596.2671and1596.7768 
1298 1597.1415to think-1597.7434 
1300 1598.1565to go to school now I think that's the right thing to do.1600.8893 
1302 1601.3199But you can- you can come out-1602.4898 
1304 1602.6611you can come out with something.1603.8381 
1306 1604.9283You don't have to go to school to be successful.1607.1382 
1308 1608.1577That's me personally, but I-1609.8185 
1310 1610.2765I- me personally I would go to school to be successful1612.6843 
1312 1612.9611cause that's what I wanna do.1614.0031 
1314 1616.0455But you don't have to go out, it's plenty of-1617.6229 
1316 1617.8173it's plenty of things you can- it's plenty of programs you can start, it's plenty1621.2488 
1318 1621.4685of gadgets you can mess with.1623.3530 
1319DCB_int_011624.3903Mm.1624.6155
1320DCB_se3_ag1_m_011624.5540It's plenty things that you can do1626.2171
1321 1626.5795to make you money.1627.6559
1322DCB_int_011630.1032So one thing you just said to me [just] /resonated/ because, um,1633.2799
1323DCB_se3_ag1_m_011631.5356[Mm-hm.]1631.8475
1324DCB_int_011633.4436DC1634.0299
1326 1634.5068has one of the lowest graduation rates [in the country.]1636.7409 
1327DCB_se3_ag1_m_011636.0051[Exactly] and I don't1637.0772
1328 1637.2485I don't like that.1637.9823
1329DCB_int_011638.1624Um, especially if you're a black or brown boy, [right?]1640.5746
1330DCB_se3_ag1_m_011640.1001[Right.]1640.5587
1331DCB_int_011641.0414<ts>1641.1820
1333 1641.4149Um, and you said that right before someone1644.1302 
1335 1644.3631graduates they either die or drop out.1646.2128 
1336DCB_se3_ag1_m_011646.3271Mm-hm.1646.7668
1337DCB_int_011646.7489Has there ever been a time you felt like you were gonna die?1648.5687
1338 1649.6630Like something's gonna happen to you, or some- you1652.4091
1340 1652.7826just felt like,1653.6393 
1342 1654.2808oh my god, this is it, my life is about to be over right now.1656.7262 
1343DCB_se3_ag1_m_011658.3637Yes.1658.9744
1344DCB_int_011659.3347Mm. Tell me.1659.9907
1345DCB_se3_ag1_m_011661.1229I was walking down the street1662.9551
1347 1665.8561and, um,1666.6953 
1349 1670.7902there were, um-1671.8801 
1351 1675.9759there was1676.5956 
1353 1676.9645these two police officers.1678.5331 
1355 1680.7926They both were Caucasian men.1682.4754 
1357 1684.6766And, um,1685.5598 
1359 1688.6310they-1688.8869 
1361 1689.7349they both came up to me, they was like, where are you going?1691.8131 
1363 1693.0522And I said,1693.6761 
1365 1694.3966I'm going-1695.1128 
1367 1695.3325I was getting on the train. I forgot where I was going, I was going somewhere.1698.2027 
1369 1698.6728I was getting on the train.1699.7669 
1371 1700.9971And he was like, um-1702.3196 
1373 1705.4051he said- he said, why do you look-1706.8507 
1375 1707.0132why do you look paranoid?1708.0545 
1377 1710.0713And right around the time, um-1711.5256 
1379 1713.0777right around the time this is where1714.6946 
1381 1715.5865Black Lives Matter was starting and it was starting to increase and stuff like that.1719.3156 
1383 1720.2361And, uh,1720.8644 
1385 1721.0138I had a hoodie on my head.1722.3715 
1387 1724.6518And he was like, you look real paranoid, w- did you do something?1727.3232 
1389 1728.1459And I said, no.1729.0335 
1391 1729.3894And then-1730.0177 
1393 1730.8305I've never told nobody this story. He1732.3815 
1395 1732.8077end up checking me1733.8511 
1397 1735.6373to see if I had anything on me and stuff.1737.7111 
1399 1739.3642And at that moment,1740.3177 
1401 1740.8932even though I was clear free,1742.2817 
1403 1742.6420I was scared, I was shaking.1744.4137 
1405 1745.4858Cause I didn't wanna be another Trayvon Martin, or another Michael Brown, or another-1749.8004 
1407 1751.0878or1751.5319 
1409 1752.1082or another statistic on1753.8410 
1411 1755.1487being killed.1755.8868 
1413 1756.0714Another black boy1756.9765 
1415 1757.2269innocently being killed.1758.5563 
1417 1759.0415I didn't want that to be my reality.1760.5936 
1419 1762.3907So at that moment I was- I was scared. I didn't-1764.5919 
1421 1764.9786I didn't know what was gonna happen to me.1766.4373 
1423 1767.8004And I had my hoodie on so1769.1537 
1425 1769.4569of course I was gonna be a suspect. This little black brown skin boy1772.8121 
1427 1773.2135has a hoodie on,1774.1088 
1429 1774.6590he has his hands in his pocket.1776.0900 
1431 1778.9616And he's walking.1779.8755 
1432DCB_int_011781.7165Were you in this neighborhood?1782.8061
1433DCB_se3_ag1_m_011784.4065No.1785.0304
1435 1785.7510I don't think so, no.1786.7308 
1436DCB_int_011787.7150Mm.1787.8820
1437DCB_se3_ag1_m_011788.7256No.1788.9980
1438DCB_int_011793.1511Do you think-1793.9947
1440 1796.3498Are you afraid?1797.1626 
1441DCB_se3_ag1_m_011798.4895No.1798.8893
1443 1800.7710Not at all.1801.3861 
1445 1802.4581At that moment I was afraid.1803.9916 
1447 1804.5452But now, growing up1805.9732 
1449 1807.0067and seeing all the stuff that's happening in the world,1809.0824 
1451 1810.8205I'm not afraid.1811.6070 
1453 1812.4638I wanna say that was about three years ago, cause I was in-1814.6299 
1455 1814.8507yeah three years ago cause I was in ninth grade.1816.6946 
1457 1817.6143Mm-hm.1817.9046 
1459 1818.5326I'm not afraid.1819.3119 
1460DCB_int_011820.6548Why? What makes you1821.8520
1462 1822.0652so confident that you don't have to be afraid?1823.9995 
1463DCB_se3_ag1_m_011826.5786W-1826.8247
1465 1827.0751well, one,1828.2187 
1467 1829.3203if they aks me to do something, I'll do it1830.8669 
1469 1831.2854and give them no problem.1832.6176 
1471 1833.4339I'm not gonna be disrespectful, I'm not looking for a problem.1836.0921 
1473 1838.3900And also is.1839.3578 
1475 1840.9219Tomorrow is not promised to nobody.1842.8244 
1477 1843.7339I think1844.3490 
1479 1845.6023if that incident went the wrong way,1847.7597 
1481 1848.3221of course I would- of course my family and stuff would be sad.1851.2175 
1483 1852.3116I don't think-1853.0893 
1485 1856.0825I don't think I would have been sad.1857.9235 
1487 1859.0966Because it's common in black males to1861.1660 
1489 1861.6274be stopped by the police1862.7785 
1491 1863.0520or even to be locked up or1864.8315 
1493 1865.0687killed.1865.4940 
1495 1866.0266That's- unfortunately that's the reality.1868.0473 
1497 1869.7085But1870.0512 
1499 1870.3731my dad told me, you fear no man.1872.4817 
1501 1874.2044Cause he's a man at the end of the day, just like you. He may have a gun on his shoulder,1878.1242 
1503 1879.1616or he may has the authority to put you behind bars.1881.6819 
1505 1882.2372But you fear no man.1883.3357 
1507 1886.7331And after he told me that-1887.8491 
1509 1889.0398He's a wise person,1890.4019 
1511 1890.8544wise man.1891.5409 
1513 1893.0513And after that I- I've never feared anybody.1895.5788 
1515 1896.0621I don't look for trouble and trouble don't look for me.1898.1008 
1516DCB_int_011901.8673Do you think having money,1903.5062
1518 1905.4702for people,1906.2610 
1519DCB_se3_ag1_m_011906.2215Mm-hm.1906.5292
1520DCB_int_011906.7312do you think that changes1908.0537
1522 1908.8445people's situation?1909.8011 
1524 1913.1383Like people who have money,1914.2983 
1525DCB_se3_ag1_m_011914.2807Mm-hm.1914.5956
1526DCB_int_011915.1946have less troubles and people who1916.7675
1528 1917.1201don't have money have more troubles?1918.4119 
1529DCB_se3_ag1_m_011918.3855Unfortunately-1919.1588
1530 1919.7212uh, unfortunately, that is the reality.1921.9532
1532 1923.0561that is the reality.1924.2767 
1534 1926.1899I think if you have- uh,1927.6398 
1536 1930.1398if you have money,1931.0845 
1538 1931.2822well you- course you can go out here and get you a nice1933.9942 
1540 1934.3062Rob Kardashian, or a nice Johnny Cochran.1936.8721 
1542 1937.2720But that's not everybody's reality, everybody can't go out there1939.9082 
1544 1940.1894and get a lawyer like that.1941.3663 
1546 1942.1193So if you have money, that-1943.5252 
1548 1943.6734that do1944.3118 
1550 1944.7731better shape your1945.7925 
1552 1946.1923chances.1946.8773 
1554 1948.2662Depending on what your circumstances is.1950.3982 
1556 1951.3868And unfortunately that's how the justice system1953.7199 
1558 1954.0889and that's how1954.6601 
1560 1955.5565it is in life.1956.5406 
1562 1957.1437And it's- doesn't mean it's right, it's not right at all.1959.6261 
1564 1959.7667But unfortunately,1960.6850 
1566 1961.0365that is true.1961.7755 
1567DCB_int_011963.2554Do you think-1964.3230
1569 1967.2064do you think that's an issue in DC? That class and money is an issue in DC?1970.7346 
1570DCB_se3_ag1_m_011970.9191Oh yeah.1971.4024
1571DCB_int_011972.3350Why'd you s- you said it very quickly, why?1974.2361
1572DCB_se3_ag1_m_011975.1909Cause if you don't have on the nice-1976.7610
1574 1977.0670the nice Jordans or th-1978.4893 
1576 1978.8773or the nice, um,1980.0152 
1578 1980.6051Foamposites or1981.9759 
1580 1982.2132they have nice Helly Hansen or North Face or nothing,1984.5990 
1582 1985.5261they- they not checking for you.1987.1253 
1584 1988.6017It's sad to say.1989.5386 
1586 1990.8699You- it-1991.3532 
1588 1991.7882kids nowadays, if you don't have on s- designer stuff, your- y- you get picked upon.1996.3016 
1590 1997.3078They don't wanna- they don't understand that mom n- might not have the money or2000.7657 
1592 2001.0952daddy's in jail. He can't-2002.7956 
1594 2003.0680he can't do nothing for us or2004.5454 
1596 2004.8661the lights are cut off so we had to spend our last bit of money on that.2007.6166 
1598 2007.9681They don't- they don't understand that2009.2818 
1600 2011.4304unfortunately. And that's people's reality.2013.7777 
1602 2014.8322And2015.0519 
1604 2018.0616And when you have kids that-2019.7596 
1606 2020.3991that comes from2021.3844 
1608 2021.5953or2021.9422 
1610 2022.1489parents that have money and that does well for theirself,2024.8744 
1612 2025.0863they know how to humble-2026.2175 
1614 2026.9117they know how to humble themselves. They know-2028.6516 
1616 2029.8785I see he not doing good, so th-2031.6668 
1618 2031.9084this old jacket that I have let me give to him cause he-2034.3689 
1620 2034.9445it's2035.3015 
1622 2035.8189it's fifty degrees outside and then there's snow on the ground and he don't got no jacket he got on2040.0057 
1624 2040.3806just a plain t-shirt.2041.6021 
1625DCB_int_012044.0593Mm.2044.3655
1627 2047.8247How do you classify yourself?2049.1868 
1629 2049.7008Do you classify yourself2050.9882 
1631 2051.5737working class, middle class? Do you classify yourself as2054.5790 
1633 2055.0930having money, not having money? How do you classify your family?2058.4027 
1634DCB_se3_ag1_m_012059.0485A nice middle class family.2060.5863
1635DCB_int_012062.0845Do you feel like you've ever wanted for anything?2063.9431
1636DCB_se3_ag1_m_012064.0222No.2064.4895
1638 2066.4959Not at all.2067.0890 
1640 2071.1719Not at all.2071.7387 
1642 2073.7730And that's why I wanna be successful in life.2075.7633 
1644 2075.9358Cause I don't-2076.5553 
1646 2077.3681I've had everything2078.5291 
1648 2078.8928given to me.2079.6045 
1650 2080.2680And I wanna go out h-2081.0545 
1652 2081.3005I wanna go out here and I wanna know how it feels to work for something2084.1707 
1654 2084.6321that I want2085.2867 
1656 2085.8535for myself.2086.5697 
1658 2086.9915Everything has been given to me.2088.3843 
1660 2090.0407I've- I haven't worked-2091.3764 
1662 2091.7060I haven't worked2092.6473 
1664 2092.8758for anything2093.7194 
1666 2094.6201when it comes to money.2095.7303 
1668 2097.6737My parents always /gaven/ me money, they've always bought my clothes2100.6230 
1670 2100.9965the sh-2101.3901 
1672 2101.4872my shoes,2102.5343 
1674 2103.8700other gadgets and stuff that I wanted.2106.1144 
1676 2107.0346Stuff like that. If I wanted to do certain things2110.2771 
1678 2110.8879so I- I don't know how it feels2112.9573 
1680 2114.0426to not have.2114.9619 
1682 2117.5586So,2117.9760 
1684 2118.5648yeah, I would say we're a nice middle class family.2120.7792 
1685DCB_int_012124.4667So you said you've grown up in DC around the area,2127.6082
1686DCB_se3_ag1_m_012127.7312[Mm-hm.]2128.1003
1687DCB_int_012127.9421[um], have you noticed that it's changed?2129.8007
1688DCB_se3_ag1_m_012131.3440Oh,2131.6076
1690 2132.0689yes.2132.5347 
1692 2132.6928It has changed drastically.2134.1992 
1693DCB_int_012134.8370Like,2135.1006
1695 2136.1243what do you mean by that?2136.9240 
1696DCB_se3_ag1_m_012137.6094If you're paying2138.3783
1698 2139.1879nineteen hundred for a one bedroom and a den it's a problem.2142.3162 
1700 2143.5025Almost two thousand dollars for something that you don't own2145.9948 
1702 2146.5441that you're renting,2147.4228 
1704 2147.7611that any moment they can sell and they can2149.2989 
1706 2149.4922kick you out.2150.1909 
1708 2151.5925That's a problem.2152.3745 
1710 2154.5714It's not right.2155.3754 
1712 2157.4460It's not right at all.2158.4390 
1714 2160.6798Because at the end of the day,2161.9188 
1716 2163.8575people that used to live here,2165.1800 
1718 2165.4217they can't afford to come back into the city.2167.1616 
1720 2168.4841Cause things are too expensive.2169.8462 
1722 2171.7278Or because, um-2172.7252 
1724 2175.1813or because2175.9414 
1726 2176.1259it's not-2176.7542 
1728 2177.0794it's not people out here advocating.2178.6534 
1730 2179.1631They don't- they don't-2180.0716 
1732 2180.4548everybody don't have money.2181.9839 
1734 2182.5419Or /that/ comes from money.2183.6535 
1736 2184.5674So,2184.9320 
1738 2185.3978of course it's- it's-2186.5753 
1740 2186.8268it's2187.2399 
1742 2187.3321increased a lot.2188.3465 
1744 2189.5466From like,2190.2075 
1746 2190.3989there's-2190.8207 
1748 2190.9613like you can go on every corner now and you can find like a n- the neighborhood Starbucks or2195.6198 
1750 2195.8614the neighborhood bank, or2197.7727 
1752 2198.4977the neighborhood, um, grocery store.2200.7385 
1754 2204.0041So it- it's changing a lot.2205.4336 
1755DCB_int_012207.5147Is that good or bad?2208.3847
1756DCB_se3_ag1_m_012213.9087I think gentrification2215.4465
1758 2215.7716has its good and has its bad.2217.7148 
1760 2218.7429The good is kicking the people out2220.6014 
1762 2221.1375that can't afford it2222.2288 
1764 2223.4925while2223.9582 
1766 2224.7403you're bringing people in.2226.2001 
1768 2228.3047But also let's not forget the people that's being kicked out, they didn't have nowhere to go. And let's forget about the people that's coming in, they have money so they can go wherever.2235.2391 
1770 2238.0423So it has its pros and it has its cons.2240.2511 
1772 2241.9450It's good for2242.9128 
1774 2243.0406people that have houses.2244.5098 
1776 2247.5646And it may not be good for people that's renting an apartment.2250.2986 
1778 2251.4981Or that may- um,2252.3681 
1780 2253.4621or the apartment may-2254.3063 
1782 2254.4659or the apartment building may be sold or-2256.2474 
1784 2257.5757or bought by another person and now their2260.0849 
1786 2260.6997rent is increasing by2262.0237 
1788 2262.1310a thousand dollars,2263.3359 
1790 2264.2278five hundred,2265.0187 
1792 2266.1314two thousand.2266.8432 
1794 2268.3722It has its pros and cons.2269.7847 
1796 2270.3011However it brings up your community to a upper scale2273.0032 
1798 2273.7600while it2274.3488 
1800 2274.9727takes2275.3198 
1802 2275.4560some people out that can't afford it.2276.9203 
1803DCB_int_012280.1441Has your school changed because of-2282.0169
1805 2282.4255have you seen your school change2283.8755 
1807 2284.2885because of2284.8831 
1809 2285.0057gentrification?2285.8459 
1810DCB_se3_ag1_m_012286.2305No because w-2287.5311
1812 2287.9188the school I go to is very diverse. So you have-2290.1288 
1814 2290.9549you have2291.3459 
1816 2292.5366black people and you have Latinos, you have Mexicans,2295.5990 
1818 2295.9297you have Ethiopian people,2297.4850 
1820 2297.8190you have African people, you have Dominican people.2300.3234 
1822 2302.2478You have different-2302.8674 
1824 2303.4166different people from different races.2305.2791 
1826 2305.8298So the diversity2307.1919 
1828 2307.6313is very good in my school, I like2309.2306 
1830 2309.4019diversity.2310.0680 
1832 2311.5164But no, my school hasn't changed. It's been the same from the beginning.2314.3108 
1833DCB_int_012315.5718So how'd you end up going to that school?2316.9734
1834DCB_se3_ag1_m_012319.2142Mm,2320.6334
1836 2320.8234one of my mom's friends2322.5370 
1838 2323.9254her kids went to this school and she was telling my mom about it.2326.6361 
1840 2327.4942And2327.9292 
1842 2328.4564so happened that-2329.4538 
1844 2329.9239that Monday,2330.7587 
1846 2330.8993they had a walk through where you can go and tour the school and stuff and2334.0365 
1848 2334.3923she2334.9284 
1850 2335.0997was in the classrooms and2336.7106 
1852 2337.0604seeing how the school was functioning and how-2339.5385 
1854 2340.3645and how the kids learn and2342.1835 
1856 2342.5131all that different stuff. She did that for a whole day.2344.7407 
1858 2345.1416She took off from work2346.1741 
1860 2346.8771and she2347.5098 
1862 2348.1952toured the school.2349.0916 
1864 2349.9659And then2350.6074 
1866 2351.1215like2351.4132 
1868 2351.6663a week, I don't even think it was a week.2353.2052 
1870 2354.0620The next day I think I was at /RD-SCHOOL-3/.2355.8019 
1872 2356.7597I don't think it even was a week.2358.3898 
1873DCB_int_012359.6025So let me ask you a couple of other [questions.]2362.7934
1874DCB_se3_ag1_m_012362.5210[Mm-hm.]2362.8649
1875DCB_int_012363.3558Um, what do you do for fun?2364.8716
1877 2365.1836What's like your2366.1019 
1879 2367.1080hobby or2368.2866 
1881 2368.6206the thing that gets you really excited?2370.4375 
1882DCB_se3_ag1_m_012370.3956I like to read.2371.4238
1883 2372.0960And I like watching law2373.1241
1885 2373.2672TV shows.2374.0644 
1887 2374.6136And right now I'm in a law camp, so2376.2799 
1889 2376.6446that's- that has- that has a lot of my attention right now.2379.4346 
1890DCB_int_012380.4056Tell me about law camp.2381.4491
1891DCB_se3_ag1_m_012382.6596So it's for people that-2383.7815
1893 2384.1810for anybody. You don't-2385.3717 
1895 2385.7978it c- it's for actors, it's for anybody.2387.7179 
1897 2388.1397But you don't have to be-2389.5325 
1899 2389.9939or you don't have to wanna be a lawyer.2391.4921 
1901 2392.6092And then2393.2156 
1903 2393.3957it's2393.7701 
1905 2394.1207ran2394.7621 
1907 2395.1312by, uh, DC Superior Court.2396.8448 
1909 2398.7780And it's like, uh, wanna say like,2400.5190 
1911 2402.9575mm,2404.8688 
1913 2405.1105six month program.2406.1738 
1915 2406.9558And they teach you about the law from-2408.6640 
1917 2409.1846from-2409.6723 
1919 2410.0985from right2411.2804 
1921 2411.9965to, um,2413.3411 
1923 2414.3472to-2414.9799 
1925 2416.5276to how to act in a courtroom, how to dress in a courtroom.2420.4380 
1927 2421.3343Leadership skills,2423.4257 
1929 2424.2704reading writing skills, stuff like that.2426.4855 
1931 2427.7502And they teach you that within that-2429.4814 
1933 2429.6308when- within2430.6873 
1935 2430.8830those six months.2432.4395 
1937 2433.4105And after that they have a mock trial2435.1592 
1939 2435.5546in which you're2436.2049 
1941 2437.2462the plaintiff,2438.0986 
1943 2438.3183defendant,2439.0213 
1945 2440.4591or in our case I think it is gonna be defendant and prosecution.2443.5699 
1947 2444.5672And then from there-2445.5119 
1949 2445.9732from what we learn in that six month2447.6988 
1951 2448.1185time period,2448.9485 
1953 2449.6958we have a mock trial with real actual judges.2452.4551 
1955 2452.6572And they decide2453.4349 
1957 2454.0061what side wins or what side loses.2455.9228 
1958DCB_int_012457.8473How'd you get- how'd you get involved?2459.5696
1959DCB_se3_ag1_m_012459.5828My godsister, she wants to be a lawyer also.2461.7577
1960DCB_int_012462.6903And so she's like, you should go to this camp?2464.2373
1961DCB_se3_ag1_m_012464.2193Right.2464.5664
1962DCB_int_012466.0646Um,2466.6842
1964 2469.6763so how're you gonna decide which college you're gonna go to?2471.9497 
1965DCB_se3_ag1_m_012473.9261Whichever college-2475.4727
1967 2476.7337I really wanna go to a school that has my major.2479.0020 
1969 2479.1821Or one of- or my major is one of the2481.1373 
1971 2481.4844most top2482.0257 
1973 2482.2753majors.2482.9850 
1975 2483.7252But I guess more I wanna sit down with my family, I wanna narrow it down by choices2487.0631 
1977 2487.6983with2487.9619 
1979 2488.1508what2488.5946 
1981 2488.7967I feel like2489.5217 
1983 2490.6904that I can do2491.7449 
1985 2492.1183and what they feel like they can do.2493.1618 
1986DCB_int_012493.8714What're your top- what're your top three schools?2496.2326
1987DCB_se3_ag1_m_012496.5923Hampton, Howard,2497.6821
1989 2500.5115and I wanna say-2501.7109 
1991 2503.8210I wanna say Bowie.2504.8140 
1992DCB_int_012506.7297Mkay, so Hampton is the farthest away.2509.1750
1993DCB_se3_ag1_m_012509.2341Right.2509.5559
1994DCB_int_012509.6175So you don't wanna go too far from [home?]2510.9708
1995DCB_se3_ag1_m_012510.7510[No], mm-mm.2511.5608
1996DCB_int_012512.3855Why?2512.6799
1997DCB_se3_ag1_m_012512.6447No.2512.9962
1998 2513.3126Because-2513.7871
2000 2514.5121it's not- it's not no reason why, I just-2516.9765 
2002 2517.6228I mean, that- that-2518.4631 
2004 2518.7004that never was me, never w- never was- I wasn't2521.0247 
2006 2521.3015the type of person like,2522.3363 
2008 2522.9228s-2523.3226 
2010 2523.4764um, a few of my other friends. I don't have to go2525.8984 
2012 2526.4037all the way2526.9661 
2014 2527.9283over2528.4072 
2016 2528.7236to2529.0762 
2018 2529.8528travel or to learn.2531.5623 
2020 2531.7113I can do all of that here.2532.8897 
2022 2533.7116And while later on in life where I have money of my own I can2536.9146 
2024 2537.2968go out and explore and travel and see new cities. I-2539.8364 
2026 2540.2582I've been to every city on the east coast.2542.3892 
2028 2542.7637Or I'm sorry, every state on the east coast.2544.8244 
2030 2546.5511/So/2546.8921 
2032 2547.3508it's nothing new.2548.3965 
2034 2548.8842I've traveled places.2550.0584 
2035DCB_int_012553.3142Let me ask you a couple of questions about- about the city and a few other questions.2557.7705
2037 2558.0253Have you been a tourist in your own backyard? Right, people come from all over the world to tour DC.2562.1705 
2038DCB_se3_ag1_m_012562.2638Right.2562.6211
2039DCB_int_012562.5651Have you- have you been a tourist in DC?2564.7931
2040DCB_se3_ag1_m_012564.9122No.2565.2808
2041DCB_int_012566.2499Why not?2566.6534
2042DCB_se3_ag1_m_012566.8104Because I've lived here for so long I've been to2569.2837
2044 2569.6543every museum that it is downtown.2571.4995 
2045DCB_int_012571.6256Mm-hm.2572.0040
2046DCB_se3_ag1_m_012572.6555I've been to2573.4963
2048 2574.2180the Capitol, I've been to the w-2575.7070 
2050 2576.2358White House.2576.9934 
2052 2578.1301I've been to everywhere in DC.2579.6434 
2054 2580.5473I've- I've-2581.2619 
2056 2581.6333I've ate at like, the most significant places that you eat at2584.5995 
2058 2584.7817Ben's Chili Bowl,2585.9447 
2060 2586.4632and stuff like that.2587.2962 
2062 2587.6263So,2587.9020 
2064 2588.1237I've n- I've never toured DC, I've always been in DC so,2591.9657 
2066 2592.7575oh,2593.0798 
2068 2593.2409this is a new building, or, I never seen that place before. I've never2596.4874 
2070 2596.7606actually sat down and2597.9898 
2072 2598.2110like,2598.4842 
2074 2598.8485or I wanna go here, I wanna see that, I wanna see that. I never did that.2601.8218 
2076 2602.1020It's always- like you say, it's always been in my backyard.2604.2180 
2078 2605.1498When,2605.4763 
2080 2606.1307um,2606.6772 
2082 2607.3033I go home, I have a driveway in my backyard.2609.9217 
2084 2610.4492And I have a fire-2611.4931 
2086 2611.9345a fire pit that's build in.2613.6676 
2088 2614.4383And if you stand on top of the fire pit you can see the Capitol, you can see the Monument2618.9505 
2090 2619.2332at night from my house.2620.1867 
2091DCB_int_012621.2861So it's- you always see it.2622.5153
2092DCB_se3_ag1_m_012622.6454Right.2622.9327
2093DCB_int_012623.3250What's your favorite-2624.5759
2095 2625.8638two things, what's your favorite museum or monument?2628.2163 
2096DCB_se3_ag1_m_012628.8135I like the news museum cause it gives us information on past histories,2632.4944
2098 2633.7836on past h-2634.6243 
2100 2634.8906history events that we2636.2760 
2102 2636.3885didn't know nothing about or2637.5555 
2104 2637.8778we can2638.2632 
2106 2638.4524draw more attention- that has- draw more attention to us.2641.2479 
2108 2641.8855And the African American History Museum2643.5415 
2110 2643.9059cause it's been a long time coming2645.2947 
2112 2646.1689I feel like. And I feel like2647.4301 
2114 2650.3473we shoulda-2650.9218 
2116 2651.6364we should've been got that2652.7645 
2118 2653.4721for all the things that we've been through in history.2655.7824 
2120 2656.8447And all the things that we will still and2658.6383 
2122 2658.9396currently2659.5422 
2124 2659.7804overcoming2660.5161 
2126 2660.9039in our present and future lives.2662.5154 
2127DCB_int_012663.5453How many times have you been?2664.5467
2128DCB_se3_ag1_m_012665.0938Four.2665.4812
2130 2666.4250[And I still] haven't toured everything.2667.9199 
2131DCB_int_012666.4250[What's your-]2666.8339
2132 2668.0670Really?2668.6695
2133DCB_se3_ag1_m_012668.6345No.2668.9901
2134DCB_int_012670.2110What's your favorite part of it?2671.3981
2135DCB_se3_ag1_m_012671.8810I like the fraternities part.2673.8498
2137 2675.3632And also, um,2676.5052 
2139 2678.9530I like2679.5415 
2141 2681.0619the entertainment part. But my favorite part is- it's this room.2683.8855 
2143 2684.2288And it's-2684.5957 
2145 2684.7218it has a circular pool.2686.2702 
2147 2686.5785Well, it's like a fountain.2687.5734 
2149 2687.9167And it has water dripping from the ceiling.2689.6823 
2151 2690.1192And it has like-2690.9880 
2153 2691.3243you can2691.7539 
2155 2692.0320fling a penny in there. It's like so soothing and calming and I think it has like quotes on the wall and stuff.2696.7543 
2157 2697.9129And I love how2698.5084 
2159 2699.9657it's no person in history that's African American2702.6702 
2161 2703.6186that's not in that museum.2704.6625 
2163 2704.9358From Oprah Winfrey to Magic Johnson to Martin Luther King to Malcolm X.2708.4950 
2165 2708.8899Everybody2709.4714 
2167 2710.0600is in that museum.2710.8495 
2169 2713.0657Jackie Robinson.2714.1587 
2170DCB_int_012715.5555Do you think that- Um, what's your favorite- So you say you've been to the restaurants. So we know about Ben's. What's your favorite restaurant in DC?2722.7166
2171DCB_se3_ag1_m_012723.7415Ted's Bulletin.2724.7139
2172DCB_int_012725.2899/Me/2725.6223
2174 2725.7944I love Ted's. It's not my favorite but I love [Ted's.]2728.2842 
2175DCB_se3_ag1_m_012728.1090[Yeah] I like [Ted's]2729.0596
2176DCB_int_012728.6695[Why do you] like Ted's?2729.6375
2177DCB_se3_ag1_m_012730.1899Um,2730.6033
2179 2731.0167I like-2731.3432 
2181 2731.5141it's like-2731.9836 
2183 2732.4039it's like a-2733.0338 
2185 2733.1912it reminds me of a old diner.2734.8978 
2186DCB_int_012735.3632Yup.2735.7753
2187DCB_se3_ag1_m_012736.1269It reminds me of a old diner and I l-2737.8995
2189 2738.2288and I like that. And when you walk in they-2740.3273 
2191 2740.8657they have like the donuts and stuff. It's- I like the r-2742.8906 
2193 2743.1078I like the set up and the food is so good.2744.9715 
2195 2746.0179It's real good.2746.7396 
2196DCB_int_012746.9148What's your favorite meal?2747.7637
2197DCB_se3_ag1_m_012748.3300I like the pancakes.2749.5071
2199 2749.7804Whenever I go to a restaurant I make up my own meal.2751.7167 
2201 2752.9638Even though they may charge you for extra, but I like to make up my own plates2756.9715 
2203 2757.5275when I go to restaurants. I don't-2758.6905 
2205 2759.6084/?/ this may come with it but I want this.2761.4658 
2206DCB_int_012762.5186Do you like their pop tarts?2763.7203
2207DCB_se3_ag1_m_012764.1511Yes I like the pop [tarts. Y-] you gotta eat 'em hot.2766.3990
2208DCB_int_012765.2370[Me too.]2765.5854
2209 2766.9886Yes. I love the pop tarts.2768.9173
2211 2769.6816Um,2770.5154 
2213 2770.8026okay so let me ask you two more questions about DC and then I want you to do something for me.2774.8804 
2214DCB_se3_ag1_m_012774.9670Mkay.2775.3593
2215DCB_int_012777.1670<ts>2777.2791
2217 2777.9517Do you like go go music?2779.0167 
2218DCB_se3_ag1_m_012783.2581It's okay.2783.8536
2219DCB_int_012784.6243It's okay, tell me why is it okay.2786.2805
2220DCB_se3_ag1_m_012786.9950It's- it's vey loud.2788.1160
2222 2788.5224And that's one of the things /you're/ from DC, yeah everybody likes go go music.2791.3740 
2224 2791.9020It- I- I will listen to it but it's not my preference.2794.6695 
2225DCB_int_012794.8657Okay what's your [preference?]2796.0288
2226DCB_se3_ag1_m_012795.7765[I like] R and B.2796.6052
2227 2797.6472And rap, like the nineties rap music.2799.6536
2229 2800.5925Not today's rap music.2801.9097 
2230DCB_int_012802.0918Nineties like Tupac, Biggie?2803.6824
2231DCB_se3_ag1_m_012803.7173Right.2804.0396
2232DCB_int_012805.4294Who's your favorite artist?2806.5434
2233DCB_se3_ag1_m_012807.4682Tu-2807.7065
2235 2807.9377no, Biggie.2808.4703 
2237 2808.8835Biggie, then Tupac.2810.1727 
2238DCB_int_012810.5090Oh Biggie then Tupac.2811.4995
2239DCB_se3_ag1_m_012811.4644Uh-huh.2811.7727
2240DCB_int_012811.7377Oh okay.2812.1397
2241 2813.2721Favorite song?2813.8424
2242DCB_se3_ag1_m_012814.5402By?2814.8740
2243DCB_int_012816.3269I'm just gonna let you- Favorite song. I'm not even gonna say a by, you can tell me.2819.5803
2244DCB_se3_ag1_m_012819.7205By Biggie,2820.7224
2246 2821.2759Juicy.2821.8084 
2247DCB_int_012822.5676Yes, it was all a dream.2824.4815
2248DCB_se3_ag1_m_012824.5854Right.2824.9778
2249DCB_int_012824.9288Mm.2825.1950
2250DCB_se3_ag1_m_012825.8326That song my favorite.2826.7364
2251DCB_int_012826.7364You didn't know I knew that.2827.4446
2252DCB_se3_ag1_m_012827.6472Cause it talks about the struggle.2829.1676
2253DCB_int_012829.6886Mm.2830.0964
2254DCB_se3_ag1_m_012830.1651And actually l- he actually lived the struggle.2832.3942
2256 2832.9046Instead of-2833.4370 
2258 2834.2988he wasn't-2834.9678 
2260 2835.9969he wasn't proud about it but it was something that he talked about, he wasn't ashamed about it.2839.9442 
2262 2840.3899Nowadays people wanna live the struggle,2842.4103 
2264 2842.9848to think that it's cool or2844.6944 
2266 2845.1848that's- that's what's in.2846.2602 
2268 2846.5440No.2846.9127 
2270 2847.7867[It's not a-]2848.2322 
2271DCB_int_012847.8918[It's the struggle.]2848.6084
2272DCB_se3_ag1_m_012848.5644It's the struggle.2849.4472
2273 2849.8256It's not about that. People2851.3670
2275 2851.6823if they could avoid the struggle they- /??/ pretty sure they would have.2854.7256 
2276DCB_int_012854.8797That's right.2855.2090
2277DCB_se3_ag1_m_012855.1740But nowadays you rap about2856.5122
2278 2856.9045the struggle and having all these different girls and2859.1701
2280 2859.5205calling 'em out of their names which is wrong.2861.7555 
2282 2861.9517Cause they're women first of all.2863.3391 
2284 2865.9198Now,2866.4173 
2286 2870.5581it may be a meaning behind-2872.3682 
2288 2872.8236it may be a meaning behind your message.2875.0150 
2290 2876.5115But your message is not-2878.0810 
2292 2879.0408it's not accurate.2879.9377 
2294 2881.5491While you may-2882.2358 
2296 2883.3733while you may-2884.2631 
2298 2884.8657you claim that you may go home and the fridge might not be nothing2888.7122 
2300 2888.9179while you had sardines and-2890.3752 
2302 2891.1740sardines and rice and stuff,2892.9082 
2304 2893.4931and beans and stuff2894.4740 
2306 2894.7778was waiting for you at dinner.2895.8568 
2308 2895.9969You had a maid and a butler and stuff like that.2897.9633 
2310 2898.3810So,2898.6944 
2312 2899.4791it-2899.7033 
2314 2899.8504you don't-2900.2988 
2316 2900.6842you don't have to-2901.5134 
2318 2902.5784you don't have to talk about the struggle to be popular.2904.8264 
2319DCB_int_012905.5491Mm.2905.9003
2320DCB_se3_ag1_m_012906.1237If that's not your reality, that's not your reality.2908.5501
2322 2908.9778That was his reality.2910.2459 
2324 2910.7084That was Tupac's reality.2912.2365 
2326 2913.6115That was Lil' Kim,2914.8517 
2328 2915.4472and all the people that2916.5472 
2330 2916.7154grew up during the Bad Boy era and that was on-2918.4880 
2332 2919.1701that was on the label, that was their reality.2921.0338 
2334 2921.1880That may not be your reality.2922.7365 
2336 2923.1848So rap about what- rap about-2925.0337 
2338 2925.3103about you.2925.9969 
2340 2927.8956Rap about how you gonna go out here and be successful in life.2930.2778 
2342 2930.9084It's not all about, I got all the money in the world. It's not about that.2933.9306 
2344 2934.2670Cause money don't make you happy at night.2935.7593 
2346 2936.4529It-2936.6631 
2348 2936.9669it don't.2937.3523 
2350 2938.2491Having all the money it's-2939.2791 
2352 2939.8326it's not all that.2940.5963 
2354 2940.7854people have-2941.3319 
2356 2942.3829A lot of celebrities and stars have money and be miserable.2945.0268 
2358 2946.0007Just because you can go out here and buy2947.3670 
2360 2947.7243whatever you want, yeah that may be good for a few days2950.1657 
2362 2950.7956but after a while,2951.4332 
2364 2951.8255it's not gonna make you happy.2953.0697 
2365DCB_int_012953.5631Mm.2953.8761
2366DCB_se3_ag1_m_012955.2822Going out here and getting the latest Gucci and Prada2957.6714
2368 2958.0357and Fendi and Hermes and stuff, that's not gonna make you happy.2960.8943 
2370 2961.8638It's gonna make you happy for that quick second but it's not gonna t-2964.2669 
2372 2964.8765externally and internally really make you happy.2967.7797 
2374 2970.2459It's not.2970.7431 
2376 2973.0650Mm-mm.2973.4294 
2378 2974.2421Be yourself.2975.1107 
2380 2975.4542And then go out here and change the world.2977.0424 
2382 2979.4434That's w- that's what makes me happy, if I can take away from myself to give to somebody else that needs it,2983.8224 
2384 2984.0071that actually needs it2985.1491 
2386 2985.5905and is in need of it2986.8556 
2388 2987.6224I would do it.2988.2109 
2390 2990.9739I would.2991.4374 
2391DCB_int_012994.9396What about2995.6822
2393 2998.5504mumbo sauce?2999.6390 
2394DCB_se3_ag1_m_013000.5892Okay. That's one of my favorites.3002.0606
2395DCB_int_013002.3083Oh, okay let's talk about mumbo [sauce.]3003.7426
2396DCB_se3_ag1_m_013003.4294[They was-] they was- that w- they was telling the truth when they was like, what's mumbo sauce, that's3006.8905
2397 3007.1848that's one of3007.5947
2399 3007.7429people's3008.0941 
2401 3008.2234DC3008.7111 
2403 3009.1351favorite memories and moments,3010.6134 
2405 3011.1389when they go to carry out.3012.0848 
2407 3012.2319You don't even have to tell 'em.3013.3233 
2409 3014.2638It comes with it when you order carry out.3015.8523 
2411 3016.2771The mumbo sauce comes in the bag.3017.6644 
2413 3018.1548You don't even have to say mumbo sauce.3019.5211 
2415 3019.9345You say wings, mumbo sauce is in the bag.3021.7907 
2416DCB_int_013022.9638Now what's the right way, do you get it on your chicken or do you get it [in the bag?]3026.4064
2417DCB_se3_ag1_m_013025.8714[See,]3026.3203
2418 3026.8758I'm- I'm old school, I like to dip it I don't like to pour it all over the chicken.3030.7903
2419DCB_int_013032.3872It's okay, me too, I don't li- I like it3034.2071
2421 3034.4102on the side.3035.0164 
2422DCB_se3_ag1_m_013034.9563Right.3035.4262
2423 3035.5523To dip it.3036.2599
2424DCB_int_013036.4911Cause I can make my-3037.4370
2426 3037.5981I can decide how much I want.3038.8173 
2427DCB_se3_ag1_m_013038.8109Exactly.3039.5765
2428DCB_int_013039.6886I don't want my chicken all soggy.3041.0058
2429DCB_se3_ag1_m_013040.9848Right.3041.3540
2430 3041.7975And [say if you] don't eat it. You gonna-3043.0867
2431DCB_int_013041.9096[/?/]3042.1785
2432 3043.1147/?/ You wanna eat it late.3044.1239
2433DCB_se3_ag1_m_013044.1376[Right.] (laughing)3044.7710
2434DCB_int_013044.3574[/That's/] right.3045.1351
2435 3045.3873So describe mumbo sauce for me.3047.1175
2436DCB_se3_ag1_m_013047.3911It's- it's r- mostly it's red, if it's not red, it's- it's- mm, I wouldn't eat it.3051.4153
2438 3052.2211It's red,3052.9848 
2440 3054.5262and it's- it has like a sweet and a s- like, taste to it.3057.6746 
2442 3060.0497Mm, and then3061.3783 
2444 3063.0930it's like juicy also.3064.4663 
2446 3065.5243I've seen people eat mumbo3066.5822 
2448 3066.9045sauce3067.3731 
2450 3067.8434by itself.3068.4120 
2452 3070.9007You know, it's- it's- it's good.3072.2556 
2454 3073.0446It's red,3073.7733 
2456 3074.0395it's red and it's saucy and it has like- um,3076.7112 
2458 3077.2720it has like a sweet3078.4444 
2460 3078.8975taste to it.3079.6612 
2462 3082.2701Yeah.3082.5434 
2463DCB_int_013083.1809And where do you get it?3083.9516
2464DCB_se3_ag1_m_013084.4631You get it from the carry out.3085.5141
2465DCB_int_013085.5211Is that the only place you can get it?3086.7725
2466DCB_se3_ag1_m_013087.3453No you can get it from other people, like I know this lady she made her own mumbo sauce.3090.6560
2467DCB_int_013091.1217Was it good?3091.6703
2468DCB_se3_ag1_m_013091.6612It was good.3092.2217
2469DCB_int_013092.3338Okay.3092.8421
2470DCB_se3_ag1_m_013092.9179Yeah.3093.2480
2471DCB_int_013093.7306Sometimes, mm.3094.9077
2472DCB_se3_ag1_m_013095.4472Yeah she made her own [mumbo sauce,]3096.8005
2473DCB_int_013096.2509[/Suspect/.]3096.9577
2474DCB_se3_ag1_m_013097.0236with her picture on it and everything.3098.2918
2475DCB_int_013098.4414Oh, her little-3099.1070
2477 3100.4383Maggie's mumbo sauce.3101.7104 
2478DCB_se3_ag1_m_013101.7625Right.3102.1268
2479DCB_int_013102.4561How do you spell it?3103.2126
2480DCB_se3_ag1_m_013105.0370I don't know, people spell it- it's different ways you can spell it.3107.7832
2482 3108.6242But I w-3109.1922 
2484 3109.8153mumbo- I would spell it M-A3112.0109 
2486 3112.9567B-O,3113.4472 
2488 3113.9096and then sauce.3114.6593 
2490 3116.0465S-A-U-C-E.3117.8357 
2491DCB_int_013118.1650Okay.3118.5752