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1DCB_int_010.4168How does it feel to be a- uh, Halloween baby?2.4876
2DCB_se3_ag2_f_013.1264Um, it's fun.4.2916
4 4.5162Like,5.0216 
6 5.1971it's really festive.6.4449 
8 6.6836Um, I usually dress up as a princess8.8947 
10 9.5826since it's my birthday10.7478 
12 11.2252and Halloween.12.0464 
14 12.7889Um,13.3013 
16 14.3402<ts>14.5297 
18 14.7192and I get a lot of candy and cake.16.5583 
20 17.8008Yeah.18.1026 
21DCB_int_0119.8348Um, where were you born?21.0983
22DCB_se3_ag2_f_0121.2176<ts> In Washington, DC.22.6847
23DCB_int_0123.7289And what neighborhoods did you have- what neighborhoods do you claim?26.8947
24DCB_se3_ag2_f_0127.1685Um, <ts>28.1512
26 28.7128so29.6955 
28 31.4698for like,32.2208 
30 32.4104the first33.2036 
32 34.9374eleven years of my life,36.4676 
34 37.2100um,37.8137 
36 38.1717I lived at, uh, /RD-ADDRESS-8/41.0497 
38 41.1971Northwest Washington, DC,42.7500 
40 43.0345um, which I guess is like,44.4384 
42 44.7122Brightwood area?45.7721 
44 46.2424Or like Fort Stevens?47.6393 
46 48.3537And then49.0767 
48 49.4978<ts> we moved to-51.3018 
50 52.4320I think the technical term for my neighborhood I live in now is like,55.6593 
52 56.2700East Colonial Village but I've never heard anyone refer to it that way.60.3342 
54 60.5081But it's like,61.4347 
56 61.8699on the other side of Sixteenth Street opposite of Shepherd Park64.7759 
58 65.3936and my address there is, uh,67.0907 
60 67.4136/RD-ADDRESS-6/ Northwest Washington, DC.70.2043 
61DCB_int_0172.7818And have you lived in DC all your life?74.4244
62DCB_se3_ag2_f_0174.5227Yeah.74.9228
63DCB_int_0178.6064So no other places and you go to college in DC.81.0070
65 81.1474Where'd you go to high- or where'd you go to school?82.6215 
66DCB_se3_ag2_f_0182.9514<ts> Well, um, um, my elementary school-85.3294
68 85.8628I went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Elementary School,87.4563 
70 87.8564and then for middle school I went to /RD-SCHOOL-7/.90.9784 
72 91.6803Then for high school I went to the /RD-SCHOOL-3/ School.94.1863 
74 95.3866And now I'm at college at Georgetown.97.1760 
75DCB_int_01100.8602And you're a student obviously.102.6501
76DCB_se3_ag2_f_01102.8029Yeah.103.1749
77DCB_int_01103.1609What year are you?103.7856
78DCB_se3_ag2_f_01104.0243I'm a junior.104.7473
79DCB_int_01105.5826What's your major?106.2214
80DCB_se3_ag2_f_01106.6847Um, I'm a Psychology major108.2149
82 108.4379with a Cognitive Science minor.110.0804 
83DCB_int_01117.4492Where were you- where was your father born?118.7408
84DCB_se3_ag2_f_01119.4638Uh, my father was born in Anacostia.121.4276
85DCB_int_01124.3407What about mom?124.9584
86DCB_se3_ag2_f_01125.3796<ts>125.6393
88 125.9271She was born in DC, uh,128.2559 
90 128.6209like in Northeast, like Michigan Avenue area.131.4709 
92 132.4730I don't know what-133.1188 
94 133.4838She- sh- sh- she grew up on Delafield Place.136.3618 
96 137.4638But I don't know what that neighborhood is called.138.9470 
97DCB_int_01140.6841What does your father do?141.6809
98DCB_se3_ag2_f_01141.9897<ts> Uh, my dad's an architect. He actually works here at Georgetown145.2943
99DCB_int_01145.7786Hm!146.0594
100DCB_se3_ag2_f_01146.1647in the basement of the building I currently live in. [<laugh>]149.6042
101DCB_int_01149.3094[What building?]149.8008
102DCB_se3_ag2_f_01149.9552[New South.]150.6976
103DCB_int_01150.1150[New South? Are] you an RA?151.2171
104DCB_se3_ag2_f_01151.4557Yeah.151.8207
105DCB_int_01152.4384Huh.152.7403
106DCB_se3_ag2_f_01153.2808Yeah.153.5686
107DCB_int_01155.1971We'll talk about that.155.9552
108DCB_se3_ag2_f_01155.9482We will.156.3764
109DCB_int_01156.4098We will!156.8450
110DCB_se3_ag2_f_01156.8380Yeah, [no. <laugh>]157.9260
111DCB_int_01157.1679[Yes.]157.7154
112DCB_se3_ag2_f_01158.0734Yeah.158.3121
113DCB_int_01158.7894<laugh>159.2246
114DCB_se3_ag2_f_01159.2667[<laugh>]159.8002
115DCB_int_01159.5405[I love] it.160.3548
116 160.7268Was your dad- I think I know your dad. Has he- how long has he been working at Georgetown?163.6944
118 164.8105For several [years.]165.6598 
119DCB_se3_ag2_f_01165.4703[Like,]166.1301
120 166.3197probably166.9584
122 167.2322thirteen years.168.3062 
123DCB_int_01168.4730<ts>168.6836
125 169.0065Because I used to work in New South.171.0070 
126DCB_se3_ag2_f_01171.1334[Okay.]171.6318
127DCB_int_01171.3510[I used to] work in the office with /RD-NAME-3/-173.9833
128DCB_se3_ag2_f_01173.9746The Office of Planning?174.8029
129DCB_int_01174.8310Mm-hm.175.2751
130DCB_se3_ag2_f_01175.3574Oh.175.7576
131DCB_int_01175.9541[/?/]176.3682
132DCB_se3_ag2_f_01175.9752[My dad's] /RD-NAME-4/?177.3229
133DCB_int_01177.4492I think I know your dad.178.8180
134DCB_se3_ag2_f_01178.7829Okay.179.1058
135DCB_int_01179.0427Oh this is crazy!180.0675
136DCB_se3_ag2_f_01180.1501[<ts> It's really crazy.]181.1500
137DCB_int_01180.2273[This is- this is crazy.]181.2662
138DCB_se3_ag2_f_01181.3294<laugh> Yeah.182.8105
139DCB_int_01182.8877Okay.183.2246
141 183.6598I'm sorry.183.9827 
143 184.0950That was really crazy. And what does your mom do?185.5691 
144DCB_se3_ag2_f_01185.7095<ts> My mom's also an architect. She's-187.6523
145DCB_int_01187.5400[<laugh>]188.5297
146DCB_se3_ag2_f_01187.8909[<laugh>]188.2700
147 188.5859She's with the Smithsonian. Um, she used to work at the zoo, and now she's like downtown194.0664
149 194.6771with like,195.1895 
151 195.3720the museums on the mall.196.5724 
153 197.1129I don't know which specific museum.198.5561 
155 198.6766Cause she works with all of them so I don't know where she is200.6350 
157 200.8035right now.201.3229 
159 201.7651But she just moved downtown.202.9444 
160DCB_int_01203.3585And what does she- like what is her function?205.1131
161DCB_se3_ag2_f_01205.3785<ts> Um,206.0173
163 206.1928well at the zoo she designed like, the exhibits, and then one of the research facilities for the animals in Front Royal, Virginia,211.8277 
165 212.3191which she still does work on. And then now,214.4109 
167 215.0497um,215.6253 
169 216.1150I don't really know cause the job is really new. Like, she just moved down there.219.4212 
171 219.7230Um, but I think she's just /involved/ in like, exhibit design and like,223.2106 
173 224.1857um, inter- like more of the interior stuff so like choosing paint colors and stuff.228.1026 
174DCB_int_01228.9573Hm.229.2311
176 234.0394Alright.234.4957 
178 235.4066So235.8558 
180 236.4525th- Wow.237.0842 
182 237.3089This is a s- It's like a really small world. Okay.239.4287 
183DCB_se3_ag2_f_01239.4358Mm-hm.239.8078
184DCB_int_01239.8148So before we get to- to college and dad and- and all of that,243.0140
186 243.5756kind of tell me a little bit about growing up.245.2392 
188 246.0675Like your neighborhood, your house248.0313 
189DCB_se3_ag2_f_01248.9438[Um,]249.3440
190DCB_int_01249.0632[that you li-] and then how'd you get to your new house?251.1129
191DCB_se3_ag2_f_01251.1760<ts> Yeah so252.1425
193 252.9152growing up I really liked,254.3682 
195 254.7543um,255.4212 
197 255.7300the first house we lived in,257.1269 
199 257.4358um, on Fourteenth Street.259.1047 
201 259.7786Um, I liked the neighborhood because261.4563 
203 261.7651there were a few kids in my neighborhood and like,263.8390 
205 264.2219especially my next door neighbors, uh,266.2630 
207 266.8386their grandkids were always over there.268.7970 
209 269.4919And,270.1096 
211 270.5713um, I was really close with them.272.0804 
213 272.4665All their names began with Ds.274.1231 
215 274.4530So there was Diamond,276.0675 
217 276.5993Dougie,277.1328 
219 277.3434which was a nickname, and then, uh,279.0842 
221 279.2106Demani.279.7792 
223 280.3126Um,280.7478 
225 281.0988and then the grandfather's name was Douglas.282.8450 
227 283.6874Um, and then there was284.9860 
229 285.8283Douglas's- the grandfather's son,288.2149 
231 288.4519his name was- his nickname was Toot.290.0594 
233 290.6069I never knew his real name.291.6598 
235 292.1933But, uh,292.9795 
237 293.3164I was really close with them.294.4034 
239 294.6064<ts> And then on295.5680 
241 295.7646the other side of our house,297.1123 
243 297.4914our other neighbor298.2495 
245 298.5934was this old lady. Her name was Miss /RD-NAME-1/.300.4676 
247 300.6976Um,301.1749 
249 301.7505she's302.5578 
251 303.2878I guess like my grandma in a sense.305.5340 
253 306.0815Um,306.6695 
255 306.9293her and my mom are really good friends and actually when we moved,309.9725 
257 310.3126she started crying, and it was like-311.8990 
259 312.0799it was like a very dramatic sob.313.7856 
261 314.3823Um, [just because we were so] close. Like, our house had,317.4919 
262DCB_int_01314.6350[<laugh>]315.8283
263DCB_se3_ag2_f_01318.3747um, cause my parents are architects they were always like updating the house and we added a balcony322.5162
265 322.6987to our house.323.5130 
267 323.7236And like, my mom would pass food to325.9822 
269 326.1577Miss /RD-NAME-1/326.7613 
271 326.8877through her window327.7511 
273 327.9476from our balcony.328.8110 
275 329.6042So we were very close.330.6535 
277 331.2592Um,331.7997 
279 331.9752but yeah I really liked. the neighborhood333.3720 
281 333.9617Um,334.7478 
283 335.0848<ts>335.2954 
285 335.6955like a few blocks away some girls that I went to elementary school with339.5265 
287 339.8564lived there.340.5443 
289 341.0497Um, so they would come over to my house a lot.343.2662 
291 343.9330And, uh,344.8456 
293 345.4984we l- we were really close to346.9233 
295 347.1971a playground, a tennis court, and a Safeway.350.2068 
297 350.8386Um (laughing),351.3159 
299 351.7090and so we would352.4741 
301 352.7408walk there a lot. Um, and then one of my really good-355.0837 
303 355.2592like my best friend from elementary school, she lived on the other side of the Safeway.358.7549 
305 359.2883Um, so my sister and I would ride bikes to her house a lot.362.7543 
307 363.6668Um,364.2705 
309 364.4390but then,364.9655 
311 365.6885<ts> one day,366.3747 
313 367.1258uh, so like they were two main events that369.4633 
315 370.2775were why my parents thought we should move. The first one373.1820 
317 374.0243was that, um,375.3720 
319 375.6668<ts> so our neighbor376.7970 
321 377.4498whose family all378.6571 
323 378.9152had let- uh,380.2208 
325 380.4244their names began with the letter D,381.7090 
327 382.3688um,382.9304 
329 383.4709the one who didn't384.3817 
331 384.5291have a name that began with a D,385.7505 
333 385.9611Toot,386.4244 
335 386.7473he was like wrapped up in like, drugs.388.9304 
337 389.1901And like,389.7867 
339 390.2905we think there was like a drug deal that went down that involved our house393.2597 
341 393.7932because we saw someone run through395.4849 
343 396.1290our-396.5151 
345 396.7117They ran up the stairs onto our patio399.4773 
347 399.6247near our front door and then there was a side door,401.8800 
349 402.2781they ran down there.403.1328 
351 403.3153And then our gate was unlocked so they went to our backyard406.2003 
353 406.6145and we think they hid drugs under my dad's car and then came back and got them later.409.9892 
355 410.5508So that was one instance where my parents were like, mm, maybe we should move.413.7095 
357 414.2921And the second time,415.3785 
359 416.0594<ts> this homeless man came up on to our porch418.5583 
361 419.1760and was sleeping there.420.6766 
363 421.1679And we didn't know he was sleeping there cause like,422.6560 
365 422.8386nighttime everyone else was asleep.424.2424 
367 425.0848And one night my sister was going down the stairs,427.7295 
369 427.9190and my sister's just really funny. Like she doesn't really think anything's a big deal.431.3445 
371 431.8499So she came into the kitchen and-433.5119 
373 433.6523and434.1155 
375 434.3051my dad and my mom were sitting there and she was like,436.6075 
377 437.0918hey I think someone's just like, on our porch. <laugh>439.8870 
379 440.2169And it was a homeless man.441.1434 
381 441.6191And so442.3491 
383 443.0862that was a problem just because my mom's office445.4798 
385 446.0274was like,446.6100 
387 446.9539an extension so like,448.4895 
389 450.0268our living room-450.9183 
391 451.2482It was like the stairs where my sister was walking down and saw the homeless person. Then there was a living room and then my mom's office,456.4129 
393 456.8340which was like an extension of the house.458.7504 
395 459.3383And that- and there was a door to my mom's office on the outside462.6866 
397 463.0727that you could get to it from the patio464.8767 
399 465.2347near our front door.466.1650 
401 466.7984And so my mom was afraid that like if we left469.2903 
403 469.7255that door unlocked470.6731 
405 470.9118that the homeless man would come into the house472.9318 
407 473.2968because everything was connected.474.7358 
409 475.4798So that's when we decided we should move.477.2854 
411 477.5630So then we moved to, uh, /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street,480.2374 
413 480.8481and481.5459 
415 482.2099when we- my parents first showed us the house, I was really impressed just because I never thought we'd be able to live487.3535 
417 488.0624in that type of neighborhood.489.2636 
419 489.9771<ts> It's just like, really nice. And the houses were so big.492.9113 
421 493.3394And our house on Fourteenth Street was494.8627 
423 495.1645pretty small.495.8297 
425 496.4544Um, so I thought that was cool.498.0128 
427 498.7077<ts> But I don't really like change so I still didn't [really wanna move]502.1035 
428DCB_int_01501.2401[<laugh>]502.0122
429DCB_se3_ag2_f_01502.6018but, um, I glad we did cause like the neighborhood we live in now,505.7817
431 506.3924there's like no507.3400 
433 507.9701like you would never find it on purpose whereas like,510.7077 
435 510.9674Fourteenth Street there was like a512.2590 
437 512.6942bus stop and- right out in front of our house and like apartments and stuff.516.4269 
439 516.7498So there was always people there and there was never any parking.519.2838 
441 519.7946But now520.4895 
443 520.8265there's all the parking in the world.522.2584 
445 522.6796Um,523.2833 
447 523.5009and like I feel safer up there just because like,526.1245 
449 526.3421it's mostly old people527.6899 
451 527.9005so528.2371 
452DCB_int_01528.1953<laugh>528.6375
453DCB_se3_ag2_f_01528.6726I don't view them as a threat.529.8448
455 529.9712And like,530.5187 
457 531.1364I walk my dog at like,532.5457 
459 533.0160anytime, even at night, and I feel535.0516 
461 535.3886pretty safe,536.0695 
463 536.2450so.536.5608 
465 536.9329<ts>537.1294 
467 537.4998Yeah, I appreciate our house now.539.6688 
468DCB_int_01541.0376So how many siblings do you have?542.3011
469DCB_se3_ag2_f_01542.4345I have a little sister and a older brother.544.0403
470DCB_int_01544.6510Okay, so you're in the middle. How old is your little sister?547.1181
471DCB_se3_ag2_f_01547.2903My little sister's seventeen.548.7644
473 549.2698And my older brother is thirty four.551.0651 
474DCB_int_01551.6337Oh! Okay, [there's] a-552.8621
475DCB_se3_ag2_f_01552.3426[/Yeah/.]552.5743
476 553.2833[Yeah, he- he's] from my dad's second marriage.555.8648
477DCB_int_01553.3043[there's some space.]554.2309
478 556.5246[Huh.]556.8475
479DCB_se3_ag2_f_01556.5387[So like] my half brother, but558.0970
480 558.9042that doesn't matter.559.7396
481DCB_int_01559.7887Are you guys really close?560.7504
482DCB_se3_ag2_f_01561.4242Yeah,561.9912
484 562.1596I'm closer to my little sister just because we've lived together the longest,565.8238 
486 566.5047and also we're closer in age but568.6650 
488 569.1494now that we're all getting older,570.6656 
490 571.0236um,571.4096 
492 571.5781our relationship with our brother has improved a lot.573.7768 
493DCB_int_01574.3000Okay. Did he live in the same house with you all?576.2725
494DCB_se3_ag2_f_01576.6235Yeah but then he went to college.578.1607
496 578.4555And then [uh,]579.2347 
497DCB_int_01578.7714[<laugh>]579.2979
498DCB_se3_ag2_f_01580.0754/?/ plus he wasn't interested in us when we were y- younger just because like,583.6553
500 584.2028we were little kids.585.3049 
502 585.9771Like my- and my brother was a teen.587.5425 
504 587.8162He did not care that these589.1710 
506 589.5290two babies were in the house.591.0522 
508 591.6612So yeah.592.5246 
509DCB_int_01593.5705Okay, so how did you- okay so going back to-596.9539
511 597.1699Let's go back to elementary school.598.4825 
512DCB_se3_ag2_f_01598.5387Mm-hm.598.8616
513DCB_int_01599.0792Talk about- you talked about your best friend lived over601.3043
514DCB_se3_ag2_f_01602.1888On [the-]602.4500
515DCB_int_01602.3254[More] behind the Safeway.603.4874
516DCB_se3_ag2_f_01603.4944Yeah.603.7768
517DCB_int_01604.1035So how604.9528
519 606.4620how did you guys become friends? Was it from school or was it because she lived behind the Safeway in the same neighborhood?610.9318 
520DCB_se3_ag2_f_01611.0230It was from school.612.2163
522 612.6937We both went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/613.9010 
524 614.9118but we didn't become friends until the second grade.616.9809 
526 617.3108Um, and we both entered in the first grade.619.2552 
528 619.7255But that's just because we weren't in the same class, like the same homeroom622.8785 
530 623.1002uh, in the first grade.624.2725 
532 624.9744Um,625.5430 
534 625.6413<ts>625.8027 
536 626.1537I don't really know how we became friends.628.0192 
538 628.6931I just remember like,630.0198 
540 630.5041I thought our moms looked alike632.1116 
542 632.2450because they're both like the same skin tone and they have the exact same haircut.635.8758 
544 636.3567And I always thought that was really cool.637.6764 
546 637.8729Um,638.2309 
548 638.4977so I guess I just started talking to her about that.640.4755 
550 641.0932And then we became friends that way.642.7568 
552 644.2379Yeah I really can't remember how we became friends.646.3070 
553DCB_int_01647.2547Did you have a favorite subject in school?648.8340
554DCB_se3_ag2_f_01649.3675Mm, <ts>650.1397
556 651.1575<ts>651.3681 
558 652.1315I guess like,652.9669 
560 653.8022uh, English.655.1920 
562 655.4026I'm not really good at math.656.4345 
564 657.2347/math/657.6418 
566 657.9701I hate math because of that. <laugh>660.1412 
568 660.5954And661.2061 
570 661.4518science was just okay.662.7153 
572 663.4787And I really liked reading.664.6122 
574 664.7844So yeah I guess like English and666.2093 
576 666.5673reading.667.0938 
578 667.6413Those were my favorites.668.6240 
579DCB_int_01669.0382But you're doing669.7104
581 669.8718cognitive [science?]671.8445 
582DCB_se3_ag2_f_01671.4933[Right?] Yeah, so,672.5884
583 673.1991um,673.5500
585 674.2590should I tell you why?675.1926 
586DCB_int_01675.8086Okay! We're gonna- yeah let's skip over and then we'll come back to [high school cause I know that's] a big deal in DC.680.1046
587DCB_se3_ag2_f_01678.2093[Sure yeah.]679.0446
588 680.2590Well no like high school is when I681.7768
590 682.0754figured out what I wanted to major in683.6680 
591DCB_int_01683.7601Huh.684.0549
592DCB_se3_ag2_f_01684.1742in the tenth grade685.0797
594 685.2482in my health class.686.1888 
596 686.7082Because we all had to choose a sub- like a mind altering substance and research it and I chose alcohol.692.0133 
598 692.7504And I just thought like,693.7768 
600 694.5036the way the brain works was so cool.696.9674 
602 697.7396Um,698.3292 
604 698.5257and also like,699.3330 
606 699.9420I was fascinated with drug addiction701.9355 
608 702.6866when I was in the tenth grade.704.0414 
610 704.5398No particular [reason.]705.8227 
611DCB_int_01705.5138[Okay.]706.0263
612DCB_se3_ag2_f_01706.2228I just (laughing)-706.9247
614 707.5354I just thought it was like,708.5392 
616 708.8621really interesting709.7325 
618 710.1326and like,710.6100 
620 710.8065the way people paint addicts712.3842 
622 712.8546is like it's solely on them,714.3637 
624 714.8411and they don't really look at like,716.2379 
626 716.7012just the fact that it's-717.9139 
628 718.3070I mean sure they started taking the drugs but after awhile720.9393 
630 721.6483it's something that they can't control and they feel like they need the drug.724.3913 
632 725.2196Um,725.6267 
634 725.8583that was interesting to me.726.9674 
636 727.4939Plus like,728.3643 
638 728.6942with the whole psychology thing, my730.1526 
640 730.3141grandfather h- has Alzheimer's732.3848 
641DCB_int_01732.6164[Mm.]732.9042
642DCB_se3_ag2_f_01732.7007[and my] grandmother is bipolar.734.1326
643 734.5749And my,734.9820
645 735.1909uh, uncle736.2860 
647 736.5106is schizophrenic.737.4723 
649 737.9285So like,738.6515 
651 739.4167mental illness was also really interesting to me.741.5960 
653 743.5214That's why I chose psychology and cognitive science.745.8870 
654DCB_int_01747.3534So-747.9203
656 748.2775so when you got to Georgetown did you-750.1714 
658 750.6197is it-750.9226 
660 751.4352is it something that you want to-752.9806 
662 753.4077What do you want to do with that? Is it some- because you want to study mental illnesses [in- in mental] health or is it757.9710 
663DCB_se3_ag2_f_01756.4722[Yeah.]757.1267
664DCB_int_01758.5690kind of trying to understand these conditions more? What i-761.6676
665DCB_se3_ag2_f_01762.0559Yeah I wanna762.7816
667 763.2721do clinical research about these765.1437 
669 765.4543different765.8504 
671 765.9824mental illnesses.766.9842 
673 767.7220Um,768.2733 
675 768.7737and like I want to conduct clinical trials.771.2301 
677 771.7468But recently773.0777 
679 773.2334I've been having a change of heart because774.9648 
681 775.2975I listened to this podcast, um,777.2442 
683 777.4212I think it's called like Codeswitch? NPR.779.7006 
685 780.2528<ts> Yeah.780.7500 
687 780.9153And they did one about like,782.0266 
689 782.5293cognitive behavioral therapy with this group of boys in Chicago786.1395 
691 786.5825and like,787.0002 
693 787.2763how787.8582 
695 788.7204it was like789.4424 
697 789.5699going to these therapy sessions was like helping them deal with their aggression792.7500 
699 793.2763and it was like decreasing the number of fights and like gang violence in Chicago.797.2334 
701 797.9413Um, and I just think that799.1205 
703 799.2763would also be really interesting to do.801.0531 
705 801.6336Just because it's all like about impulse control and like why people do the things they do805.7364 
707 806.4655and also showing807.4000 
709 807.8813people that there's, uh, healthier outlets810.3448 
711 810.5259to express themselves812.1541 
713 812.6284instead of just immediately jumping to like814.5680 
715 814.7308being aggressive.815.6227 
717 816.0687So I'm thinking about that817.0144 
719 817.5099right now.818.0408 
721 818.4726But818.8478 
723 819.4849currently820.0725 
725 820.3556I work in a lab821.4104 
727 822.0121that specializes in like aphasia.824.4655 
728DCB_int_01824.7558Mm.825.0743
729DCB_se3_ag2_f_01825.0672Um,825.6619
730 825.9450<ts>826.0937
732 826.8157and I'm also really interested in Linguistics so like with that829.7364 
734 830.4018I like831.0035 
736 832.1220that like832.7591 
738 833.9059combines the psychology and linguistics.836.3914 
740 837.0319Um,837.5345 
742 838.1928but I'm seeing that I think I wanna work with like,840.5430 
744 840.7595actually841.3117 
746 841.5948physically work with patients because like working in the lab is844.2211 
748 844.4760really boring.845.1980 
750 845.9413Cause all I do is transcribe things.847.7742 
752 848.4726And I'm like really good with people so I feel like I'd be better working with actual patients and like,853.2621 
754 853.6019people who have suffered from strokes.855.5486 
756 856.1857So we'll see.856.8228 
758 857.4104<ts>857.6723 
759DCB_int_01857.8917I'm sorry, and you have a transcription homework due tomorrow.860.2319
760DCB_se3_ag2_f_01860.4726No it's so funny. I thought that was due on Friday.862.7096
762 862.8582So you sent out that email and I was [like] wow, I got to do this865.7116 
763DCB_int_01864.2994[<laugh>]864.5471
765 865.7081[<laugh>]866.1895 
766DCB_se3_ag2_f_01866.2161tonight (laughing). [<laugh>]868.4972
767DCB_int_01867.5840[<laugh>]868.8016
768 869.6086Good good.870.2315
769DCB_se3_ag2_f_01870.1932Yeah. [<laugh>]871.0639
770DCB_int_01870.7100[Hm.]871.0214
771 871.2904Glad we sent that email out.872.4372
773 872.8620Um,873.4707 
775 873.5911so let's go back to high school for a minute because I know in DC h- like your high school is a really big part of-879.6973 
777 879.9521for most people, high school is a big part of882.0616 
779 882.4622your identity or like it's a big part.884.6708 
781 885.0319So how'd you end up going to, um,887.5449 
783 888.0162/RD-SCHOOL-3/.888.6321 
784DCB_se3_ag2_f_01889.0285Well my high s- or my middle school asked me to leave,891.7114
786 891.8955so.892.5538 
788 893.2617[Um-]893.7572 
789DCB_int_01893.2759[I'm sorry.] What?894.0546
790DCB_se3_ag2_f_01894.4410Yeah so,895.3188
792 896.5859um,897.2017 
794 897.3716when I was in the eighth-898.1786 
796 898.4901so like like I said I'm bad at math.900.3306 
798 900.6604When I was in the eighth grade I w- like I wasn't failing math.903.6052 
800 904.0725I was getting like C minuses.905.6369 
802 906.2032But I guess like,907.0972 
804 907.5878/RD-SCHOOL-7/ is all about test scores and I'm not very good at standardized tests.911.8210 
806 912.1607So they framed it as a-913.3825 
808 913.5524like,913.8355 
810 913.9771they were asking me to leave because of my test scores916.3910 
812 916.6883but like,917.1201 
814 917.2759out of all the girls918.2245 
816 918.4693I know I wasn't the only one failing.919.7364 
818 920.2319And I know wasn't921.0177 
820 921.8247like the worst one.922.8582 
822 923.4175So I think it's because I was black.924.4651 
823DCB_int_01926.8478You didn't f- there weren't- How many black students were in your class?929.0281
824DCB_se3_ag2_f_01929.3608<ts> Like five.930.4014
825DCB_int_01930.8799Mm.931.1630
826DCB_se3_ag2_f_01931.1489And it was like931.9842
827 933.3646they wanted like a certain type of934.8441
829 935.0918black girl.936.1466 
830DCB_int_01937.3188What do you mean?937.8143
831DCB_se3_ag2_f_01938.3806I think like939.1947
833 940.0583cause when I- I got there in the sixth grade and, um,942.7666 
835 942.9577I was having like a hard time just because I-944.6284 
837 944.9823I was used to public school.946.2353 
839 946.7945So this private school was a lot harder948.3802 
841 948.7170and949.0922 
843 949.3329I had never been to a predominantly white school before.951.3433 
845 951.8389So I was struggling, but eventually I figured it out and I955.3258 
847 955.6798became pretty popular I guess and957.5274 
849 957.9521had a lot of friends959.0494 
851 959.6157and so960.4864 
853 961.3966I guess they just wanted like a963.0743 
855 963.4495black girl that was like,964.6317 
857 966.2669I don't know, that would just like, be silent and like follow all the rules and stuff.971.3537 
859 972.4268I don't really know how to explain it.973.7293 
861 974.0266But974.7275 
863 976.6175that's the best that I can [do.]977.7843 
864DCB_int_01977.5874[You weren't] that girl.978.3702
865DCB_se3_ag2_f_01978.3985No.978.9153
866DCB_int_01979.1135You were not that girl.980.1895
867DCB_se3_ag2_f_01980.2956No.980.6213
868DCB_int_01981.0885So981.4849
870 981.7893I didn't- Okay.982.5043 
872 983.0494So tell me about- Okay, going back to public school, what do you mean- what was different from public school to private school?988.7308 
873DCB_se3_ag2_f_01988.8795[I just-]989.2334
874DCB_int_01988.9644[Kind of for] your- personal experience.990.4947
875DCB_se3_ag2_f_01990.4126I just-990.9365
876 991.2975I really was unprepared when I got to that private school. Like I realized995.3821
878 996.4581I just997.0427 
880 997.2055was not997.6090 
882 998.1187ready998.5434 
884 998.7204in terms of-999.3362 
886 999.6548Academically. [And] also socially, I just wasn't prepared1002.3802 
887DCB_int_011000.4618[Mm.]1000.6742
888DCB_se3_ag2_f_011002.8869for that change. Like I was really behind in my math class1005.5345
890 1006.0512because my1006.8087 
892 1006.9715math teacher specifically-1008.9577 
894 1009.0851Cause I left after the-1009.9559 
896 1010.0762I left public school after the fifth grade.1011.5345 
898 1012.1786That year my math teacher had got engaged1015.1276 
900 1015.2550so she wasn't really interested in like1016.6779 
902 1017.0035teaching. <laugh> She was more so interested in planning her wedding.1019.7077 
904 1020.2174So I didn't really learn a lot1021.4674 
906 1021.7364and like,1022.3381 
908 1024.1503I just wasn't being challenged in public school.1026.6038 
910 1027.4816And then when I got to private school, I was just really behind1030.3769 
912 1030.5397and I had to get1031.5803 
914 1031.8493a tutor1032.4651 
916 1033.1559for math specifically. Everything else I could figure out.1035.7468 
918 1036.0512Um,1036.4193 
920 1036.5892but math was just1037.7572 
922 1037.9767not good for me.1039.4745 
923DCB_int_011040.0904So what happened- how did you- so what happened when you got to high school?1042.5680
924DCB_se3_ag2_f_011043.1909<ts> Well I had been used to p-1044.4156
926 1044.5896private school so1045.7506 
928 1045.9629high school was fine and like,1047.2230 
930 1047.7539/RD-SCHOOL-4/'s pretty like, uh,1049.3821 
932 1049.6015progressive.1050.4197 
934 1050.7241They call themselves progressive.1052.2292 
936 1052.7558Um,1053.1664 
938 1053.3433so it was like a nice change from /RD-SCHOOL-7/ which was all girls,1056.8161 
940 1057.3471and they required us to wear uniforms.1059.4283 
942 1060.0795Um,1060.5892 
944 1060.9715or like there was a strict dress code.1062.6280 
946 1063.0073There was uniforms for the sixth grade and then there was a strict dress code1065.6690 
948 1066.0300for seventh and eighth grade.1067.4458 
950 1068.0262Um,1068.5430 
952 1068.9011and I just-1069.5453 
954 1070.4868I was-1071.2128 
956 1072.1503I was in like a better environment- academic environment when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/,1076.4868 
958 1077.2867<ts> um, because the classes sizes were smaller1080.4483 
960 1081.0144and the teachers were actually helpful and1083.9450 
962 1084.6459they1085.0918 
964 1085.4812weren't1085.9767 
966 1086.4410discriminating against me.1087.7081 
967DCB_int_011087.8143What was the racial makeup?1089.0319
968DCB_se3_ag2_f_011089.4070It was pretty diverse1090.7166
970 1090.9573[I'd say.]1091.6440 
971DCB_int_011091.1555[Mm.]1091.4529
972DCB_se3_ag2_f_011091.9059Like my friend group,1093.1418
974 1094.3948um,1095.0389 
976 1095.3292was maybe like,1096.0583 
978 1096.6742three black girls,1097.8351 
980 1098.0799two black boys,1099.2196 
982 1099.8214and like,1100.1258 
984 1100.3310three white girls1101.4495 
986 1101.8389and then one Asian girl.1103.2122 
988 1103.6794Or one Asian boy1104.6958 
990 1105.3400and then, uh,1106.0479 
992 1106.5788like one1107.1593 
994 1107.3787white boy.1107.8742 
995DCB_int_011108.8370What happened to your best friend in the neighborhood? Did she-1110.8515
997 1111.2480was she still in public school or did she also go to private school?1113.7456 
998DCB_se3_ag2_f_011113.7964She stayed in1114.5060
1000 1114.6742public school1115.6652 
1002 1116.6038cause /RD-SCHOOL-1/ only goes up to the sixth grade so she stayed there and then she went to,1120.2777 
1004 1120.8795um, Carroll,1121.9130 
1005DCB_int_011122.3065Mm-hm.1122.6635
1006DCB_se3_ag2_f_011123.9559which, is that a private school?1125.4354
1007DCB_int_011127.3042Mm, the middle school?1128.5642
1008DCB_se3_ag2_f_011128.8445Yeah.1129.2126
1009DCB_int_011130.6638I think I was thinking the high school1132.0212
1010DCB_se3_ag2_f_011131.9902[Oh.]1132.2231
1011DCB_int_011132.1610[but] I- [we did miss-] we did miss some grades in there. Wait a minute, [I- I think] I made her like,1135.7458
1012DCB_se3_ag2_f_011132.7124[Sorry.]1133.1395
1014 1134.5654[Yeah yeah.]1135.0779 
1015DCB_int_011136.1186fifteen.1136.6699
1016DCB_se3_ag2_f_011136.6389[No.]1137.1437
1017DCB_int_011136.7942[/Tell me./]1137.1126
1018DCB_se3_ag2_f_011137.2990Yeah I don't know. I just know she w- ended up going to Carroll1139.6676
1020 1140.9436and yeah.1141.9842 
1022 1142.2319But most people- If you got to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ you're sposta to go to1144.5397 
1024 1145.0989Deal and then Wilson1146.4368 
1025DCB_int_011146.6675Mm-hm.1147.0002
1026DCB_se3_ag2_f_011147.1205just cause they're all1147.9842
1027DCB_int_011148.1470[In the same neighborhood.]1149.3504
1028DCB_se3_ag2_f_011148.1541[in that same neighborhood.]1149.3646
1029 1149.8813Um,1150.3273
1031 1151.3254but1151.8564 
1033 1152.6675the pu-1152.9294 
1035 1153.1418public schools weren't really1154.1895 
1037 1154.3452teaching1155.0177 
1039 1156.2282enough1156.8157 
1041 1157.7997in my parents' opinion.1158.7500 
1043 1159.3471And my opinion I guess.1160.5222 
1044DCB_int_011162.3981So how did you end up at Georgetown?1164.2811
1045DCB_se3_ag2_f_011164.9436<exhale>1165.4320
1047 1166.0762Uh,1166.5930 
1049 1168.7166the money.1169.3608 
1051 1170.1041Cause my dad works here they pay for two thirds of my tuition.1172.9965 
1053 1174.2353Um,1174.6954 
1055 1176.0758and I- I mean1177.0427 
1057 1177.2621I always thought I would go to college in New York1179.0956 
1059 1179.2442cause I really love New York City1180.7166 
1061 1181.4953but, um,1182.0162 
1063 1182.1790my mom didn't want me to go there1183.2480 
1065 1183.5948and then I didn't get in <laugh> to NYU <laugh> so that was definitely off the table.1188.0050 
1067 1188.4197Um, and out of all the s-1189.3541 
1069 1189.5028the schools I got into1190.7204 
1071 1191.2655Georgetown just made the most sense in terms of like,1193.6227 
1073 1194.1720the name1194.8869 
1075 1195.3966and the1196.3594 
1077 1196.5293academics here1197.4849 
1079 1197.8318and the money,1198.4442 
1081 1199.3042so.1199.6086 
1082DCB_int_011199.9271When you came in did you know- you knew that you wanted to study psychology,1203.4991
1084 1203.7681cognitive science because of1205.1131 
1086 1205.4529the high school [experience?]1206.6604 
1087DCB_se3_ag2_f_011206.5471[Yeah] I still knew that even though I came in undecided.1209.1054
1088DCB_int_011211.0352And so1211.9696
1090 1212.1891<clears throat>1212.7500 
1092 1213.3754okay so now you're studying- You're- you're declared- Well obviously cause you're a junior [now.]1217.0717 
1093DCB_se3_ag2_f_011216.9078[Mm-hm.]1217.1980
1094DCB_int_011217.5561So how'd you end up in linguistics?1219.3188
1095DCB_se3_ag2_f_011219.5807<ts>1219.7010
1097 1220.2178Yeah so one of my friends,1221.9450 
1099 1222.3131um,1222.7733 
1101 1223.0140from my freshman /door/- dorm, she lived on my floor1225.4037 
1103 1225.8980and she's a linguistics major.1227.3765 
1105 1227.7397And one night we were in an Uber1229.2830 
1107 1229.8351and the driver was asking us about our majors,1231.9243 
1109 1232.0904and so he started talking to her about linguistics, and I didn't realize how much you could do with linguistics.1236.7578 
1111 1237.2763Cause I didn't really know what it was like coming into1240.1149 
1113 1240.5397Georgetown,1241.2405 
1115 1241.7431and so hearing her talk about it I was like, oh like,1244.0904 
1117 1244.6638maybe I can get into this. And plus with the cognitive science minor,1248.0829 
1119 1248.6179you have to take two classes in like these different areas, and I hate-1251.7751 
1121 1251.9521Like I don't really like math.1253.1697 
1123 1253.7077I don't really like science-1255.0356 
1125 1255.4603Like-1255.7364 
1127 1255.9559like actual science. Psychology is like a social science so I'm okay there.1259.5661 
1129 1260.0829So I decided to do- do my two c- requirements in philosophy and linguistics.1264.3118 
1131 1264.8653And so I took the Intro to Linguistics class, and I was like, I'm doing really well here. Like I can really do this.1269.3504 
1133 1269.9096So1270.3769 
1135 1271.1768I plan on to keep taking linguistics until I graduate.1274.0683 
1137 1274.3169I just think it's really interesting.1275.7044 
1138DCB_int_011276.5255Warms my heart.1277.6440
1139DCB_se3_ag2_f_011277.6227Yeah. [<laugh>]1278.6634
1140DCB_int_011277.8210[I'm melting] over here.1279.3258
1141DCB_se3_ag2_f_011279.4179Yeah. [<laugh>]1280.6567
1142DCB_int_011279.7576[I'm melting.]1280.6921
1143 1281.7539Um, what has been your experience- And this is not on my little sheet, but what has been your experience with1286.6071
1145 1286.9257AAE this semester, kind of thinking about the class and thinking about1290.5684 
1147 1290.9506kind of your own experiences and some of these kind of educational experiences that you've had?1295.4670 
1148DCB_se3_ag2_f_011296.0404Um,1296.5784
1150 1297.0922I'd say that1297.9417 
1152 1298.6638I definitely code switch, I guess, between Standard English and AAE1303.1135 
1154 1303.5807depending on who I'm around.1304.8336 
1156 1305.8318Um,1306.4406 
1158 1306.6812especially since I'm1308.0333 
1160 1308.6816like I'm black and so1310.3523 
1162 1310.9115in these professional spaces AAE is like, looked down upon.1314.4227 
1164 1315.0922But it isn't fair but1316.1965 
1166 1316.3948that's just the way it is so-1318.5184 
1168 1319.4104And because I do work in a lab1321.1984 
1170 1321.6090I'm the only black person in that lab.1323.6697 
1172 1324.1291And,1324.5751 
1174 1325.1839um,1325.6157 
1176 1326.1295<ts>1326.2640 
1178 1326.6321so just1327.3895 
1180 1327.6161I'm more mindful1328.7345 
1182 1328.9540of my language I guess because of your class.1331.7827 
1183DCB_int_011332.7949Hm.1333.0922
1184DCB_se3_ag2_f_011333.3754Yeah.1333.7789
1185DCB_int_011334.2815What spaces do you feel like you have the liberty t- to-1336.6812
1187 1337.0989to-1337.7997 
1189 1337.9979to speak AAE?1339.0472 
1190DCB_se3_ag2_f_011339.8143When I'm at home. I go home a lot. I go home- I've gone home every weekend.1343.4316
1192 1343.6086Especially this year.1344.4410 
1194 1345.0781And, um,1345.9134 
1196 1346.1187I'm on the board for the Black Student Alliance1348.7308 
1197DCB_int_011348.9715Mm.1349.3042
1198DCB_se3_ag2_f_011349.2900so when I'm with them1350.4156
1199 1351.1489it's definitely okay.1352.5576
1201 1352.7629It's definitely what's expected of me.1354.6529 
1203 1355.4245Um, and I just feel really comfortable there.1357.2834 
1204DCB_int_011359.1239So let's talk about what you do on campus, [um,]1362.3306
1205DCB_se3_ag2_f_011361.5278[Mm.]1362.0021
1206DCB_int_011362.9790like cause this is a really- Georgetown's a very interesting1365.3433
1208 1365.5769place [and space]1366.9219 
1209DCB_se3_ag2_f_011366.0866[Yeah.]1366.7166
1210DCB_int_011367.2476for so many reasons, right?1368.5126
1211DCB_se3_ag2_f_011368.5118Everyone's always doing something.1369.9629
1212DCB_int_011370.0054Everyone's doing something but I think1371.7114
1214 1372.4052the level of diversity [and how people] are, you know,1375.1265 
1215DCB_se3_ag2_f_011373.5944[I'm sorry (whispered).]1374.1678
1216 1375.4603[Yeah.]1375.9509
1217DCB_int_011375.4816[socioeconomic] status,1377.2159
1218 1377.6406race, so many things make this place very interesting.1380.3138
1219DCB_se3_ag2_f_011380.3731Mm-hm.1380.7500
1220DCB_int_011380.8303So1381.4249
1222 1381.5807let's talk about your experience as an RA. Is this your first year as an RA?1384.3202 
1223DCB_se3_ag2_f_011384.5751This is my second year.1385.5944
1224DCB_int_011385.8139What [dorm-] what residence hall were you in last year?1387.8780
1225DCB_se3_ag2_f_011386.1578[I-]1386.3560
1226 1388.0974I was in New South.1389.0672
1227DCB_int_011389.5840Oh do you- did you request first year students?1391.8705
1228DCB_se3_ag2_f_011391.9909No.1392.2882
1229DCB_int_011392.6250No?1392.8586
1230DCB_se3_ag2_f_011393.4745But1393.7223
1232 1393.9842that's where I was placed and1395.2938 
1234 1395.5982I needed the money,1396.3485 
1236 1396.5255so. <laugh>1398.0262 
1237DCB_int_011398.0941So talk about that.1399.0639
1238DCB_se3_ag2_f_011399.5240Um,1400.1399
1240 1401.2371uh, well first of all,1402.5326 
1242 1403.5378um,1404.2245 
1244 1404.4056when I was a freshman1405.5594 
1246 1405.7435like I was getting-1406.6991 
1248 1406.8903In addition to my dad- like the tuition1409.4104 
1250 1409.8988from Georgetown because of my dad,1411.3329 
1252 1411.9417I was also getting some other financial assistance but then Georgetown took that away and then made my parents pay back what Georgetown had given me which really sucked.1419.2513 
1254 1419.8742Um,1420.3273 
1256 1420.8582and I've actu- they've actually done this to like other girls1423.3683 
1258 1423.6798who have coincidentally been black.1425.1380 
1260 1425.3575But we don't need to get into that.1426.3556 
1262 1426.8370Um,1427.3325 
1264 1427.5236<ts> so when that happened, my parents were like well,1430.2673 
1266 1430.6567we can't afford to pay for housing so you either need to become an RA or live at home.1434.5692 
1268 1434.9860And at the time I didn't know how to drive so like,1437.4070 
1270 1437.6194I didn't-1438.0937 
1272 1438.4618I couldn't live at home because1439.8422 
1274 1440.4905I didn't wanna rely on my dad getting me1442.4585 
1276 1442.7275to and from campus every day.1444.3344 
1278 1444.9007So I applied to become an RA1446.1466 
1280 1446.3135and like,1446.7241 
1282 1446.9153I knew I'd be good with it- good at it1448.8690 
1284 1449.4000cause I'm good with people and like interacting and like1451.7219 
1286 1452.1607I'm a big sister,1453.3508 
1288 1453.5594and I love being a big sister so like,1455.2725 
1290 1455.6052I'm good at helping people and I'm comfortable doing that.1458.0121 
1292 1458.7029Um,1459.1489 
1294 1459.5665and I didn't mind being placed with freshmen.1461.5345 
1296 1462.2636Um,1462.6883 
1298 1463.0494and plus I-1463.6935 
1300 1464.1749I wanted to live alone, <laugh>1465.6656 
1301DCB_int_011465.9771<laugh> [That's a-] that's a [great reason.]1467.9167
1302DCB_se3_ag2_f_011466.1399[so. <laugh>]1466.9257
1304 1467.3433[It's been] so exciting living alone. I love living alone.1470.2952 
1305 1470.7878Um, so I don't mind living with freshmen.1472.6567
1307 1473.1805They are loud1473.9592 
1309 1474.4830but1474.9644 
1311 1475.8634that's fine.1476.4581 
1313 1476.7524I'm good at tuning them out.1477.7718 
1315 1478.3381Um,1478.8478 
1317 1479.0956and like,1479.6619 
1319 1480.4547I find that they really do appreciate the stuff I do for them even when1483.6869 
1321 1483.8638I don't think it's a big deal.1485.0248 
1323 1485.4424Like every Sunday I bake cookies for them1487.0423 
1325 1487.6440and they think it's the greatest thing in the world but1489.5170 
1327 1489.9629I don't really see1490.7416 
1329 1491.1593the value in it just because it's like the same cookie dough1493.6511 
1331 1493.8746every (laughing) Sunday.1494.7170 
1333 1495.1559It's like pre-made.1496.1541 
1335 1496.4231I just put it in the oven but they really like it.1498.2837 
1337 1498.9502Um,1499.3821 
1339 1499.6581and this year specifically1501.0356 
1341 1501.7860I'm like- I think I'm a way better RA just because1504.2282 
1343 1504.5680I'm more comfortable interacting1506.0516 
1345 1506.4905with all these residents and like,1508.1541 
1347 1508.7204I've been actively putting myself out there1510.7308 
1349 1511.0989to connect with my residents cause like last year1513.2834 
1351 1513.7930I didn't really like1514.4301 
1353 1515.0672m-1515.2230 
1355 1515.7185It's not that I didn't wanna talk to them- my residents,1517.7502 
1357 1518.0870but I didn't think they needed me as much as1519.8568 
1359 1520.2744I now see that they do.1521.5415 
1361 1522.3061Um, but next year I'm gonna be in /RD-WORK-3/ with, uh, upperclassmen1525.8284 
1363 1526.4868which is great.1527.0743 
1365 1527.7397<ts> I am nervous about having roommates again though1529.8776 
1367 1530.1395cause my first experience with roommates1532.0620 
1369 1532.2249wasn't very good.1533.0106 
1370DCB_int_011533.0389Oh you're not gonna be an RA next year.1534.2636
1371DCB_se3_ag2_f_011534.3344No I am.1534.9573
1373 1535.1697I'm gonna just be in like1536.3907 
1375 1536.5613a suite.1537.1418 
1377 1537.4179So I'll be living with other people.1538.6567 
1378DCB_int_011539.1026As an RA? You [don't get your] own room?1540.8653
1379DCB_se3_ag2_f_011539.9096[Yeah.]1540.2140
1380 1540.9149I get my own room but then I1542.2386
1382 1542.4339share a [bathroom]1543.3188 
1383DCB_int_011543.1418[Oh so it's Copley] style.1544.9469
1384DCB_se3_ag2_f_011543.6515[with two-]1544.2390
1386 1544.9044Yeah yeah.1545.4141 
1387DCB_int_011545.4637I have- I haven't been in the new-1546.7096
1388DCB_se3_ag2_f_011546.7662<ts> Okay [yeah.]1547.4741
1389DCB_int_011547.1485[in-] in the buil- in the1548.5642
1390DCB_se3_ag2_f_011548.8374[Mm-hm.]1549.2126
1391DCB_int_011548.8445[like living] part.1549.8568
1392DCB_se3_ag2_f_011549.9063Yeah.1550.2744
1393DCB_int_011550.7983Oh.1551.9804
1395 1552.5114Mm.1552.9149 
1397 1553.5590Mkay.1554.1466 
1398DCB_se3_ag2_f_011554.3277Yeah.1554.6816
1399DCB_int_011555.5665I think residence life is really good. Make sure you put that on your resume.1559.6432
1400DCB_se3_ag2_f_011559.7360[Yeah.]1560.0546
1401DCB_int_011559.7926[Um], those are a lot of transferable skills [and I] think, um, it's really interesting1564.1432
1402DCB_se3_ag2_f_011561.8355[Mm-hm.]1562.2815
1403DCB_int_011565.2122people don't think1566.2144
1405 1566.7170that you learn- you learn how to manage a budget right? [You have] your floor funds?1570.3344 
1406DCB_se3_ag2_f_011568.9115[Yup.]1569.1310
1407 1570.4406[Yup.]1570.6954
1408DCB_int_011570.5326[You guys] still have to do that?1571.2508
1409DCB_se3_ag2_f_011571.2971[Yup. <laugh>]1573.9205
1410DCB_int_011571.5236[Yup.]1571.8280
1412 1572.4622[<laugh>]1574.4797 
1413 1574.9115To buy your cookie dough.1575.8519
1414DCB_se3_ag2_f_011575.9804[Yeah.]1576.4406
1415DCB_int_011576.2140[Um,]1576.9007
1416 1577.1839and- and all those things that you learn and- and1579.9417
1418 1580.3877the students reply- repl- rely on you.1582.6812 
1419DCB_se3_ag2_f_011582.6600Mm-hm.1583.0494
1420DCB_int_011583.2546Like they rely on you for the answers when they know the answer.1586.2178
1421DCB_se3_ag2_f_011586.4939Yup.1586.8903
1422DCB_int_011587.4495Like they just want you to say it to s-1589.0140
1423DCB_se3_ag2_f_011589.0352They want [reassurance.]1589.9979
1424DCB_int_011589.8634[They] do. And validation.1591.0922
1425DCB_se3_ag2_f_011591.1064Yup.1591.4391
1426DCB_int_011592.2319Even though it's the same thing1593.7114
1428 1593.9380they1594.1928 
1430 1594.4406just said five minutes ago.1596.0758 
1431DCB_se3_ag2_f_011596.2215Mm-hm.1596.6250
1432DCB_int_011596.9294Um,1597.5311
1434 1597.8851do you- how do you think it'll be with upperclassmen?1599.9238 
1435DCB_se3_ag2_f_011600.8016Um,1601.4245
1437 1601.9596<ts>1602.1861 
1439 1602.7524I guess like I'll have to like1604.1824 
1441 1604.3594be more intentional with my interactions1606.5255 
1443 1607.0281just because like1607.8493 
1445 1608.2569maybe they won't be as actively in like seeking me out.1611.0389 
1447 1611.8813Um,1612.3273 
1449 1612.7945but I think that's like-1613.7431 
1451 1615.0002I think it'll be better in some ways just because I'll be more-1617.8389 
1453 1619.3042I don't know. I feel like now with freshman1621.1064 
1455 1622.0125I-1622.6284 
1457 1623.1310I d- I can do the bare minimum <laugh> and they appreciate it.1626.0062 
1459 1626.5887But with the upperclassmen I'll have to like put in more effort1629.2291 
1461 1629.6619in the interactions that I do have with them just to make sure that they're getting the most out of it1633.6939 
1463 1634.6284and that I'm being like,1635.6902 
1465 1636.3202as helpful as I can be for them.1637.7289 
1467 1638.4410So1638.8869 
1469 1639.4745in this case I'm excited for the change.1641.2867 
1471 1642.0017Plus I'm trying to become more comfortable with change since I'm about to graduate1645.2409 
1473 1645.6231in a year.1646.0974 
1474DCB_int_011647.1664Why does change make you so uncomfortable?1648.7166
1475DCB_se3_ag2_f_011649.6723I just-1650.3236
1477 1650.8728Why? I don't see the point in changing1652.6496 
1479 1652.8336things that work1653.7185 
1481 1654.2211that are like,1654.7379 
1483 1654.9149I'm-1655.1909 
1485 1655.5095I like routines1656.5430 
1487 1657.0002so1657.4462 
1489 1658.9257change is r-1659.5486 
1491 1659.7751messes up the routine.1660.8438 
1492DCB_int_011661.7926Does the beginning of semesters like1663.1630
1494 1663.4957unnerve you sometime- like,1664.7416 
1496 1665.0885bother you when it's the new semester?1666.7520 
1497DCB_se3_ag2_f_011667.2334Um,1667.8068
1499 1669.5028y- uh,1670.3664 
1501 1670.8195no, just because like,1672.2707 
1503 1672.4335with preregistration I'm able to like1674.3590 
1505 1674.5330mentally [prepare]1675.8568 
1506DCB_int_011675.5878[<laugh>]1677.9238
1507DCB_se3_ag2_f_011676.0479[for what my schedule's gonna be]1677.4424
1508 1677.9450and I've been lucky1678.7591
1510 1679.1626I've been able to get all the classes I sign up for.1681.3966 
1512 1681.8992[So like]1682.4868 
1513DCB_int_011682.0479[Hm.]1682.2603
1514DCB_se3_ag2_f_011683.0672with preregistration I'm able to like know1685.0281
1516 1685.3750what's gonna happen (laughing) <laugh>1686.4339 
1517DCB_int_011686.8303[<laugh>]1688.3452
1518DCB_se3_ag2_f_011686.8515[so like]1687.5453
1520 1687.6869[I'm okay]1688.3452 
1521 1688.5646cause I- I'm able to like1689.8742
1523 1690.3344assess everything1691.2900 
1525 1691.8280and mentally prepare before the semester starts.1693.8638 
1526DCB_int_011694.4443<ts> Okay I'm gonna give you a tip.1695.7681
1528 1696.0795Working with upperclassmen is different. It's so funny our paths our very similar. [I] worked with freshmen for two years1701.7327 
1529DCB_se3_ag2_f_011699.7718[Mm-hm.]1700.1187
1530 1701.7751Mm-hm.1702.1432
1531DCB_int_011702.1716and then my third year I wasn't a1703.8351
1533 1703.9596senior. I was a grad student at that point.1705.5665 
1534DCB_se3_ag2_f_011705.6656Oh okay.1706.0620
1535DCB_int_011706.1187Um,1706.5363
1537 1706.7204but I also had upperclassmen, and you do have to be more intentional. [And they'll] need you1710.7058 
1538DCB_se3_ag2_f_011709.8534[Yeah.]1710.1649
1539DCB_int_011711.0002but in different [ways.]1712.1753
1540DCB_se3_ag2_f_011711.8072[Yeah.]1712.2319
1541DCB_int_011712.3098And, um,1713.4424
1543 1713.8389but that's the really good- They don't- They're not as needy.1716.2669 
1544DCB_se3_ag2_f_011716.3560Yeah that's the thing. I'm-1717.3117
1546 1717.4533Like it's really draining1718.5434 
1547DCB_int_011718.7487[<laugh>]1719.6973
1548DCB_se3_ag2_f_011718.7629[to have to be like,]1719.7044
1549 1719.9592excited to see my freshmen all the time1722.1820
1551 1722.8374when I really just wanna go lay down.1724.5009 
1553 1725.1451So1725.4991 
1555 1725.6760<ts> yeah.1726.2565 
1556DCB_int_011726.7874Yup.1727.0635
1558 1727.2971Where- where did you live as a first year student?1729.3102 
1559DCB_se3_ag2_f_011729.6302I lived in VCW1730.9752
1561 1731.3221with three other girls1732.5963 
1562DCB_int_011732.9715Mm.1733.3537
1563DCB_se3_ag2_f_011733.8917which was interesting.1734.7500
1564DCB_int_011735.2126So what's after college?1736.3832
1565DCB_se3_ag2_f_011737.7893<laugh> You sound like my mom.1739.2617
1567 1740.3660My mom wants me to go to grad school1741.8992 
1569 1742.5222which I agree I should go to grad school. I don't necessarily know if it should be right after1746.2457 
1571 1746.3773college but1747.2338 
1573 1747.7364my mom thinks I should go because Trump is president so I might not find a job.1751.1201 
1575 1751.8210But like that's her being afraid that1753.4320 
1577 1753.7223I won't have a job.1754.6213 
1579 1755.1522But I'm not necessarily too afraid cause my parents told me I can live at home for free1758.8572 
1581 1759.2480as long as I'm trying to get a degree.1760.6142 
1583 1761.0460So I might take them up on that. But I also feel like I need to leave DC at some point in my life.1764.7878 
1585 1765.5665[S-]1765.8638 
1586DCB_int_011765.5807[Why?]1765.8709
1587DCB_se3_ag2_f_011766.3877I've been here1767.1168
1589 1767.2796for so long (laughing)1768.3981 
1591 1768.8936and like I didn't go abroad1770.4793 
1593 1770.8161while I was here cause like,1772.1045 
1595 1772.6071I didn't want to.1773.4707 
1597 1773.6123Like I love-1774.3061 
1599 1774.6105I don't like change.1775.4245 
1601 1775.8634And I- I love my house. I love my mom.1777.9700 
1603 1778.4868I love my sister.1779.3292 
1605 1779.4920I love my dog. I did not wanna leave them.1781.4316 
1607 1782.0546S- but1782.7500 
1609 1783.0356at some point1783.8992 
1611 1784.1328I should go experience something else.1786.1928 
1612DCB_int_011787.4387What else do you do on campus?1788.6280
1613DCB_se3_ag2_f_011789.0639Um, I'm the vice president of programming for the Black Student Alliance.1792.6034
1614DCB_int_011793.9555So what does that entail?1794.9092
1615DCB_se3_ag2_f_011795.2834Right now I'm planning our1796.6921
1617 1796.8407big event1797.4849 
1619 1797.7964[on-]1798.0725 
1620DCB_int_011797.7964[Visions?]1798.5043
1621DCB_se3_ag2_f_011798.5892Yeah.1799.1485
1623 1799.7572I'm not particularly excited (laughing). <laugh>1801.9027 
1624DCB_int_011801.8568Why not?1802.2956
1625DCB_se3_ag2_f_011803.0885Planning it as been hell. <laugh> [Like my committee members] aren't really helpful.1807.6112
1626DCB_int_011805.1272[<laugh]>1806.1436
1627DCB_se3_ag2_f_011808.0833Everything is on me.1809.1664
1629 1809.5628People say they're gonna help you and then don't.1811.2830 
1631 1811.9201Um,1812.4730 
1633 1813.6019<ts>1813.8426 
1635 1814.1258it's all on me.1814.8124 
1637 1815.0389And I'm tired.1815.7397 
1638DCB_int_011817.0281It's only a couple more weeks right?1818.1749
1639DCB_se3_ag2_f_011818.8940<ts> Yeah.1819.5807
1640DCB_int_011821.2017Where is it?1821.6619
1641DCB_se3_ag2_f_011822.0300It's at the Washington Court Hotel on New Jersey Avenue.1824.4227
1642DCB_int_011824.5825Mm.1824.9082
1643DCB_se3_ag2_f_011826.2461You should come.1826.9398
1644DCB_int_011827.5061Okay.1827.9026
1646 1828.1645I'll come.1828.6812 
1648 1829.0140Let me know.1829.4812 
1650 1829.6369Give me the information.1830.5132 
1651DCB_se3_ag2_f_011831.0498[Yeah.]1831.3683
1652DCB_int_011831.1772[Our-] Visions was like1832.3310
1653 1832.6425one of the most memorable1833.9663
1655 1834.9078things.1835.9979 
1656DCB_se3_ag2_f_011836.0333Yeah?1836.5572
1657DCB_int_011837.2480Um,1838.0620
1659 1838.8974<ts>1839.0531 
1661 1839.2301but it is a lot. [It-]1840.4335 
1662DCB_se3_ag2_f_011840.2848[It is.]1840.8157
1663DCB_int_011840.6034[I wasn't] on the committee [but-]1841.8564
1664DCB_se3_ag2_f_011841.6652[Yeah.]1842.1254
1665 1842.3065It's a lot.1842.8374
1666DCB_int_011844.5151But just a couple more weeks then [it's over.]1845.9946
1667DCB_se3_ag2_f_011845.6123[Fundraising] is a lot.1846.8865
1668DCB_int_011847.2334Yeah.1847.5520
1669DCB_se3_ag2_f_011847.7502Mm-hm.1848.2599
1670DCB_int_011850.0691And people are not doing what they say they will do.1852.2494
1671DCB_se3_ag2_f_011852.6671And then giving me an attitude when I ask them to do the bare minimum.1855.4391
1673 1855.7293That gets on my nerves.1856.6921 
1675 1856.9752<ts>1857.2017 
1677 1858.1432But,1858.4122 
1679 1858.6388you know,1859.0210 
1681 1859.4033I'll make it through.1860.1820 
1682DCB_int_011861.4886<laugh>1862.1116
1684 1862.3948Okay.1862.7204 
1686 1863.1734When is it? [April-]1864.4264 
1687DCB_se3_ag2_f_011864.2424[It's] May first.1865.1909
1688DCB_int_011865.5944Oh last day of classes?1866.4156
1689DCB_se3_ag2_f_011866.5047Yup.1866.8728
1691 1868.2603From seven thirty to one AM.1869.8247 
1692DCB_int_011871.2192Are y'all taking busses again?1872.3023
1694 1872.6038Or do they have busses?1873.6019 
1695DCB_se3_ag2_f_011873.8497<clears throat> No.1874.6496
1697 1875.0460Cause we can't afford it.1875.8475 
1699 1876.3202But the Law Center shuttle1877.5612 
1701 1877.6652drops you off right in front of the hotel.1879.3895 
1702DCB_int_011880.3735Mm.1880.6425
1703DCB_se3_ag2_f_011880.8690Mm-hm.1881.2017
1704DCB_int_011882.6246Okay. Well I have my own car so1883.8988
1705DCB_se3_ag2_f_011883.9555[<laugh>]1884.5713
1706DCB_int_011884.2781[but]1884.5613
1707 1884.8657I'm just asking for the students. [Okay.]1886.5575
1708DCB_se3_ag2_f_011886.2107[Yeah.]1886.5222
1709DCB_int_011887.7964Um,1888.6405
1711 1888.9261then my other question for you- So we're gonna move kind of off of that. We're gonna1892.1257 
1713 1892.4372move on from that.1893.3716 
1715 1893.8318So tell me about-1895.7897 
1717 1897.1418Have you- Do you travel around DC a lot or do you seem to stay in Northwest?1900.6405 
1718DCB_se3_ag2_f_011901.1667Um,1901.8109
1720 1901.9950I typically stay in Northwest1903.7360 
1722 1904.3735because1904.9610 
1724 1905.2230I don't like driving.1906.4122 
1726 1907.6623And now that I can drive1909.0780 
1728 1909.8780I'd just rather go to places where I for sure know1912.7703 
1730 1912.9614that I'm guaranteed parking1914.2427 
1732 1914.8586because I don't know how to parallel park cause for DC tests you don't have to know that.1917.7326 
1734 1918.3810So I can just like pull in to spaces1920.1578 
1736 1920.4480but I-1920.7807 
1738 1920.9577like1921.1064 
1740 1921.5028I don't know how to- Like backing in to f- spaces is very hard for me.1924.5249 
1742 1925.3225Um, so like I like going places where I know there's gonna be parking and just like1929.1876 
1744 1929.5840I know how to get there. Cause like trying to drive somewhere1932.0516 
1746 1932.5330and like having my phone talk to me1934.1399 
1748 1934.5222is very confusing for me (laughing).1936.1999 
1750 1936.9756Um,1937.4357 
1752 1938.0091but I'm pretty good with directions like I-1939.6231 
1754 1940.2602I pay attention where my1941.1239 
1756 1941.2442parents drive me places- have driven me places so1943.6481 
1758 1944.2569I'm pretty good with directions but I'd rather for sure know where I'm going.1947.4212 
1760 1948.3556So I don't really like-1949.1726 
1762 1949.4924and I've really only stayed in Northwest1951.5169 
1764 1952.1611and like some parts of Northeast,1953.6477 
1766 1953.9167so.1954.3273 
1767DCB_int_011955.8746When did you- when did you learn how to drive?1957.2267
1768DCB_se3_ag2_f_011957.9063Actually April sixth will be a full year1960.3060
1770 1960.4376since I got my license.1961.4853 
1771DCB_int_011961.8251Oh like1962.3843
1773 1962.7524like you're new.1963.4745 
1774DCB_se3_ag2_f_011963.6585Yes!1964.1399
1776 1964.3310<laugh> [Cause I-]1965.9167 
1777DCB_int_011965.5982[Oh.]1965.9025
1778DCB_se3_ag2_f_011966.1999I learned how to drive on a stick shift1967.8746
1780 1968.4551cause all my parents drive is stick shifts.1970.1611 
1782 1970.3310And then the car that my parents were gonna give me is a stick shift.1972.5863 
1784 1973.3154So that was like,1973.9667 
1786 1974.1507the first hurdle, <laugh> learning how to drive that (laughing).1977.3433 
1788 1978.0300And it's funny cause, um,1979.3579 
1790 1979.6481I actually took the test once before and failed.1981.6373 
1792 1982.3593Um,1982.7416 
1794 1983.2017and that was in a manual car.1984.8482 
1795DCB_int_011986.5542Oh well congratulations.1988.3806
1796DCB_se3_ag2_f_011988.3381Thank you (whispered).1988.8478
1797DCB_int_011988.9044It's almost your one year anniversary.1990.8128
1798DCB_se3_ag2_f_011990.9331Yeah.1991.2658
1799DCB_int_011992.2710So thinking about DC, um,1994.8407
1801 1995.9096wow.1996.3344 
1803 1999.0780This feels like the city is kind of your- you're still- even in the city you are-2002.8836 
1805 2003.5348have only explored like2004.5896 
1807 2005.1134half of it.2005.7254 
1808DCB_se3_ag2_f_012005.8213Yeah I know.2006.4938
1809DCB_int_012006.8690So do you feel like a stranger in your own city?2008.6405
1810DCB_se3_ag2_f_012009.1880Um,2009.6693
1812 2010.0162not really.2010.8303 
1814 2012.1187I don't-2012.5151 
1816 2012.8124I don't feel that way.2013.8671 
1818 2014.1332Cause like I know-2015.0535 
1820 2015.2163I know a lot of stuff about different parts of DC2017.6373 
1822 2018.2319because of my dad.2019.1451 
1824 2019.8459He's- he's old,2020.6783 
1826 2020.9048and he's been [out here for] a long time.2022.6179 
1827DCB_int_012021.4003[<laugh>]2021.8322
1828DCB_se3_ag2_f_012023.3754Well my dad's like sixty seven.2024.9610
1830 2025.7043So2026.1857 
1832 2027.0464I just like listen to him talk about the city2028.9506 
1834 2029.6231but I don't necessar- and like,2030.9044 
1836 2031.3150I'm not a very adventurous person.2032.9827 
1838 2033.6481I like to stay at home.2034.9577 
1840 2035.6585So I don't really go out a lot.2036.9894 
1842 2037.9592[I don't-] I don't feel the need to.2039.3292 
1843DCB_int_012037.9846[Where d-]2038.2536
1844 2039.8109What has been your dad's most-2041.4603
1846 2042.7204<ts>2042.9540 
1848 2043.9733What's been your dad's best story about the city?2046.2498 
1849DCB_se3_ag2_f_012046.9082Um,2047.6373
1851 2048.2390I guess just like,2049.3221 
1853 2050.6004<ts> when-2051.3862 
1855 2052.4409when my brother was first born,2054.6283 
1857 2055.4566he went to this night club called Faces a lot.2058.5188 
1859 2058.8809Do you know where that is?2059.8638 
1861 2060.5292I think it's on Georgia Avenue,2061.9379 
1863 2062.7562um,2063.1951 
1865 2063.7897which isn't very helpful.2064.9223 
1867 2065.8992I can't- uh- yeah. <laugh>2067.6589 
1868DCB_int_012067.5628It is a long street.2068.3839
1869DCB_se3_ag2_f_012068.4518It is (laughing).2069.0110
1871 2069.3012Um,2069.6410 
1872DCB_int_012069.6906Mm-hm.2070.0445
1873DCB_se3_ag2_f_012070.1012but he used to go to that night club a lot, and my mom th- and like2072.9186
1875 2073.5911my brother was seven when2074.9473 
1877 2075.1526my dad met my mom.2076.1861 
1879 2077.0780And so2077.8213 
1881 2078.1682my mom would take care of my brother2079.9846 
1883 2080.1544when my dad would go out to this night club2081.9808 
1885 2082.1436and like,2082.6038 
1887 2083.2621my mom would tell me like,2084.3806 
1889 2084.6496you know, you're dad like,2085.8076 
1891 2086.2040he didn't really like,2086.9261 
1893 2087.1667check to see if /RD-NAME-2/, my brother-2089.0143 
1895 2089.4674He didn't check to see if /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was doing his homework, and he was like, failing school when I met2093.5065 
1897 2094.0091your father, and all this stuff.2095.4037 
1899 2095.9063And I just think it's weird to think about my dad as like this social person,2099.1473 
1901 2099.4287who was going out to night clubs and stuff.2101.1418 
1903 2101.8355Because who he is now I guess is like completely different.2104.5043 
1905 2104.9968Um, he doesn't have very many friends2106.8869 
1907 2107.3824cause either they've died2108.6354 
1909 2109.1380or he- Yeah I know.2110.0654 
1911 2110.4376He has really old friends2112.0374 
1913 2112.3418cause he's really old (laughing).2113.5240 
1915 2114.0337But like, um,2114.9610 
1917 2115.8884yeah, he doesn't really like a lot of people.2117.7543 
1919 2118.2710So just thinking about him being social2119.9488 
1921 2120.3239is very funny.2120.9823 
1923 2121.4212And he took a gap year2122.6004 
1925 2123.0818between,2123.7260 
1927 2124.0870uh,2124.6250 
1929 2125.0497starting a- Cause he- he went to Howard2127.4778 
1931 2127.6265and then eventually Georgia Tech.2128.8199 
1933 2129.2942He took a gap year between graduating from high school and going to Howard,2132.4584 
1935 2133.0531and he just tells me he has interesting stories but he won't tell me what they are.2136.3064 
1936DCB_int_012139.5982So you-2140.0579
1938 2140.1898your dad's just this mystery man?2141.5986 
1939DCB_se3_ag2_f_012142.2498I mean yeah cause2143.6373
1941 2144.2602I don't really think he likes talking about how he grew up.2147.0322 
1943 2147.8675Cause he was poor.2148.7241 
1945 2149.4532<ts> And then his mom died when he was like, in his twenties and2152.5155 
1947 2152.7774him and his brother don't have a good relationship.2154.9931 
1949 2155.9842I guess he just likes how his life is now.2158.0229 
1951 2158.1757Like for him, he's made it in life cause he never thought2160.5684 
1953 2161.0214he'd be a- doing the things he does2163.2513 
1955 2163.9025and like living where he live- where we live now.2166.0941 
1957 2166.6179Um,2167.0356 
1959 2167.5169so I think he just likes life now2169.3150 
1961 2169.5628compared to how it was.2170.6034 
1962DCB_int_012170.7208How do you th-2171.0464
1964 2171.3225How do you think your dad defines success and then how do you define success?2174.5043 
1965DCB_se3_ag2_f_012175.7651I think for my dad just2176.8482
1967 2177.1172being able to2178.1719 
1969 2179.4815pay for things2180.6071 
1971 2181.2513cause like money was such a big issue for him growing up,2183.5419 
1973 2184.1365the fact that like,2185.0214 
1975 2185.3612he really wants my sister and I to graduate debt free from college and like,2188.9614 
1977 2189.3862the way it's going now I am gonna graduate debt free.2191.5028 
1979 2191.9629I'm really grateful about that, um, so I guess for him just2194.6405 
1981 2195.3437the fact that he's like,2196.5754 
1983 2197.4603present2198.1282 
1985 2198.3239cause like he didn't know his dad.2199.5698 
1987 2200.2606Um,2200.7491 
1989 2201.0393so2201.6269 
1991 2202.4055he just thinks2203.3966 
1993 2203.8850the fact that he's around2205.0955 
1995 2205.8530and paying for stuff,2207.2163 
1997 2207.5278he's like,2208.2427 
1999 2208.9011made it.2209.3258 
2001 2210.1470But I think like,2210.9327 
2003 2211.7539as a father and a husband it's way deeper than that.2214.3631 
2005 2215.2409Um,2215.7435 
2007 2216.9327you actually have to be like emotionally present and like,2219.3154 
2009 2219.7401more involved.2220.7453 
2011 2221.2409It's not just about like,2222.1611 
2013 2222.7133dropping us off places and picking us up. It's like,2225.4216 
2015 2226.4622actually2227.2125 
2017 2227.4886talking to us about our days and like,2229.7439 
2019 2230.6287my dad's like-2231.5065 
2021 2232.8232<ts>2233.0285 
2023 2233.9063He's a gemini2234.8507 
2025 2235.1239so like he can be nice but he can also be very mean. <laugh> And like,2239.0106 
2027 2240.0691he yells a lot2241.0531 
2029 2241.3504[and so] like,2241.9875 
2030DCB_int_012241.3645[Mm.]2241.7680
2031DCB_se3_ag2_f_012242.3456my sister and I don't like interacting with him a lot.2244.8090
2033 2245.2055Like we're more- we're closer with our mom2247.0177 
2035 2247.3221just cause like,2247.9278 
2037 2248.6571our mom's a scorpio.2249.8322 
2039 2250.0374She's nicer.2250.9648 
2041 2251.3824I'm also a scorpio, so we al- We're always on the same page.2254.5226 
2043 2255.1030Um,2255.6693 
2045 2256.1932and like,2256.8869 
2047 2257.1134she's more like a2258.1682 
2049 2258.4443calm person.2259.4920 
2051 2259.9733My dad's-2260.6641 
2053 2261.1455has a temper.2261.8605 
2055 2264.3806That has nothing to do with2265.4306 
2057 2265.6335success2266.4195 
2059 2266.6358but-2267.0039 
2061 2267.4711Sorry.2267.8746 
2063 2268.0445Um,2268.4055 
2065 2269.0427I don't know what success is for me.2270.5009 
2067 2270.9610I'll figure that out.2271.7539 
2069 2273.1243I don't think I'm-2273.7401 
2071 2273.9596I mean-2274.3914 
2073 2274.6604I don't know.2275.1488 
2075 2275.9771I don't know.2276.6283 
2076DCB_int_012276.8053How do you think your mom defines success?2278.4335
2077DCB_se3_ag2_f_012279.3649Mm,2279.7189
2079 2281.6302uh,2282.5009 
2081 2282.9186I don't really know2283.8884 
2083 2284.5579because like,2285.4499 
2085 2286.9577I don't think my mom would consider2288.3593 
2087 2288.6000where she is in life right now successful just because2291.4428 
2089 2291.9950she's still struggling.2293.3966 
2091 2293.8638Like,2294.1045 
2093 2294.6637um,2295.0672 
2095 2295.9238so2296.3981 
2097 2296.6783with architecture you can practice being an architect without being a registered architect2300.4797 
2099 2301.0035but if you're a registered architect you can get higher paying jobs.2303.9029 
2101 2304.3772And my mom's been trying to get registered2305.8426 
2103 2306.0549for like ever but because she had my sister and I2308.6405 
2105 2309.1951it's been harder for her cause you have to take like2310.9648 
2107 2311.6160a total of like ten tests.2312.8478 
2109 2313.3221You have to actually pass those tests but like she doesn't have time to study because she was taking care of us2317.2338 
2111 2317.7576or she was taking care of her parents.2319.5344 
2113 2319.7822And she's been taking care of her parents since she was twelve.2321.9596 
2115 2322.5400And she's like,2323.0993 
2117 2323.3541fifty two now2324.1682 
2119 2324.7062so she's just tired.2325.7893 
2121 2325.9775And so I don't think she's like2327.2729 
2123 2327.6198very happy2328.3914 
2125 2328.9435with2329.2267 
2127 2329.8921where she's at right now.2330.8407 
2128DCB_int_012332.3951So how do you think your mom like- If you think about-2334.5400
2130 2335.3541Okay l- so this is a-2336.5505 
2132 2337.7114it's kind of like a personal question. You don't have to answer if you don't want, but like thinking about2340.7241 
2134 2341.1488middle class because when I- when I think about your parents are architects like, that's very middle class [maybe] even upper class America.2347.7576 
2135DCB_se3_ag2_f_012346.3489[Mm-hm.]2346.6604
2136DCB_int_012348.3098How do you feel like- do your parents feel like they're a part of the middle class?2351.4570
2137DCB_se3_ag2_f_012351.8038Oh.2352.2427
2139 2352.6462Yeah.2353.0285 
2140DCB_int_012353.8072But they- but your mom doesn't feel like she's made it.2355.8388
2141DCB_se3_ag2_f_012356.8694I mean2357.4853
2143 2358.9860I- my mom2360.0762 
2145 2360.4160doesn't really care about like, m-2362.1332 
2147 2362.4234[material stuff.] My dad's more into material things like2365.2055 
2148DCB_int_012362.4376[Money.]2363.0676
2150 2363.3296[Hm.]2363.5874 
2151DCB_se3_ag2_f_012365.6939he likes looking good. He gets like two thousand dollar custom made suits2369.0889
2153 2369.7260and, um, that's like looking good is really important to him but like my mom couldn't care less about how she looks.2374.4081 
2155 2375.0959Um,2375.6339 
2157 2376.6958yeah.2377.2621 
2158DCB_int_012378.3947Does your dad buy like really nice things for your mom?2380.4689
2159DCB_se3_ag2_f_012381.1667No. [<laugh>]2382.5259
2160DCB_int_012382.2498[No?]2382.5542
2161DCB_se3_ag2_f_012383.1630He's very selfish. [<laugh>]2385.7114
2162DCB_int_012385.2088[Mm.]2385.6251
2163DCB_se3_ag2_f_012386.2536[Mm-hm.]2386.6783
2164DCB_int_012386.2606[Is it reci-] does she buy nice things for him?2388.2215
2165DCB_se3_ag2_f_012388.6108No.2388.9789
2166DCB_int_012390.4655[/?/]2390.7628
2167DCB_se3_ag2_f_012390.4797[I mean] well2391.2442
2168 2392.1149they just- Like my parents don't [care-]2393.8180
2169DCB_int_012393.4853[They just] have a-2394.2215
2170DCB_se3_ag2_f_012394.3843They don't care about p- like my dad doesn't care about Christmas.2396.8124
2172 2397.1734Like literally, he said to me, I don't give a shit about Christmas <laugh>2399.8606 
2174 2400.3985cause [like]2400.9789 
2175DCB_int_012400.6675[/inaudible/]2401.0639
2176DCB_se3_ag2_f_012401.3258presents and stuff,2402.5434
2178 2402.7628that just wasn't2403.4920 
2180 2403.8713the concern when he was growing up and like,2405.9454 
2182 2406.4268my mom,2407.1276 
2184 2407.7810her family2408.6283 
2186 2409.2938is kind of crazy.2410.1432 
2188 2410.3527So like2410.7986 
2190 2411.0959growing up2411.7543 
2192 2412.6958her main concern was taking care of everything because her mother2415.4212 
2194 2416.2394became bipolar when she was twelve so [she's had to] take care of everything and like,2419.9558 
2195DCB_int_012418.1295[/Mm./]2418.6179
2196DCB_se3_ag2_f_012420.5505because my m-2421.2991
2198 2421.4495my grandma became bipolar,2422.7845 
2200 2422.9473my grandfather started drinking.2424.2852 
2202 2424.7170So he was addicted to alcohol for awhile and then we think that's what like,2427.5486 
2204 2428.4022made him become-2429.4428 
2206 2429.5915Like2429.8888 
2208 2430.1224it2430.2923 
2210 2430.5613messed with him so much that2431.7505 
2212 2432.3523he started getting dementia and now Alzheimer's.2434.8269 
2214 2435.1030And then like,2435.6269 
2216 2435.8038her brother is no help2436.8515 
2218 2437.1347because like2437.7010 
2220 2437.9842it's not his fault he's schizophrenic but like2439.7680 
2222 2440.2960he's just no help2441.1738 
2224 2441.5278because of that.2442.1153 
2226 2442.6108So it's all been on her so she doesn't really care about like,2444.9186 
2228 2445.7114[presents] and stuff.2446.4447 
2229DCB_int_012445.8642[Hm.]2446.0766
2230DCB_se3_ag2_f_012446.7208She wants to make- she likes to make sure that like2448.3843
2232 2448.5967my sister and I when we were little we had2450.0620 
2234 2450.2885like good Christmases.2451.5840 
2236 2452.0583Just that we were like happy but like,2453.9313 
2238 2455.3329my sister and I don't really care about l-2456.9044 
2240 2457.1593I guess because of that we don't-2458.3314 
2242 2458.4872my sister and I don't care about like,2459.6481 
2244 2460.1365getting the most presents and stuff on Christmas and like, on our birthdays.2463.2584 
2245DCB_int_012464.8553Do you have a lot of family- do you have like family traditions?2467.3895
2246DCB_se3_ag2_f_012467.7647<ts>2467.9134
2248 2469.6477Mm,2470.0016 
2250 2472.9082um,2473.3824 
2252 2474.7770I guess. Like2475.7751 
2254 2475.8996we go to dinner on people's birthdays but I feel like everybody does that (laughing).2480.0549 
2256 2480.5505Um-2481.0035 
2257DCB_int_012481.1309No not everybody doesn't do that.2482.3458
2258DCB_se3_ag2_f_012482.3456Okay.2482.8269
2259 2482.9614So yeah we go to dinner for everyone's birthday.2485.2763
2261 2485.8284Um-2486.2815 
2262DCB_int_012487.2867Thankfully.2487.8813
2263DCB_se3_ag2_f_012488.0766Yeah.2488.5438
2265 2488.7632I specifically like2490.0162 
2267 2490.1365my birthday and my mom's birthday cause we're three days apa- or two days apart.2494.2636 
2269 2495.2800It's a fun time.2496.1224 
2271 2496.6321And we're both scorpios.2497.7718 
2273 2498.5151<ts> [I like it.]2499.1734 
2274DCB_int_012498.7487[Is she two] days early or two days after?2500.3839
2275DCB_se3_ag2_f_012500.3668<ts> Two days after.2501.1880
2276 2501.9242Yeah.2502.1861
2277DCB_int_012502.6108Where- Do you always go to the same place? Since [you don't like] change.2505.6902
2278DCB_se3_ag2_f_012504.7770[So-]2505.2159
2279 2505.7822Well so my mom- We always go to Cactus Cantina.2508.2994
2280DCB_int_012508.3702Mm-hm.2508.6745
2281DCB_se3_ag2_f_012508.9152Um,2509.2267
2283 2509.7435that's like,2510.3523 
2285 2510.6708our favorite restaurant.2511.8601 
2287 2512.0341It is so good.2513.2021 
2289 2513.5702And my brother used to work there, like right when he got-2515.8921 
2291 2516.1257right when he got out of college and didn't have a job, that was like, his job.2519.4711 
2293 2520.0516It's so good.2520.8232 
2295 2521.2338Um,2521.7293 
2297 2522.0125<ts>2522.2532 
2299 2522.8336my- my mom and my sister make fun of me cause like,2525.1313 
2301 2525.8463out of my sister and I, I guess I'm like-2527.9490 
2303 2528.8053They call me high maintenance, which I resent.2530.5013 
2305 2530.6429I feel like that is2531.3968 
2307 2531.5561incorrect.2532.1578 
2309 2532.3985But like,2532.7524 
2310DCB_int_012532.7666Hm.2533.0710
2311DCB_se3_ag2_f_012533.2975I guess I'm like,2534.0195
2313 2534.6920bougier.2535.4637 
2315 2535.6548Like2535.9238 
2317 2536.2040I'm- I'm just like my dad. Like we like really fancy restaurants (laughing).2539.4603 
2319 2539.9134And like, we either go big2541.2230 
2321 2541.3504or we go home. Like,2542.4193 
2323 2543.1313<ts> for our birthdays,2544.0658 
2325 2544.3631you know the Capitol Grille?2545.5311 
2326DCB_int_012545.7859Mm-hm.2546.1682
2327DCB_se3_ag2_f_012546.5009Yeah we like to go there and it's like,2548.0229
2329 2548.3385not very2549.3154 
2331 2549.4782affordable.2550.1578 
2333 2550.9435But2551.4957 
2335 2552.1045it's our birthday so we do it anyway.2553.9238 
2336DCB_int_012557.6868Mkay.2558.1753
2338 2559.1734And mom is cool with Cactus Cantina?2560.9261 
2339DCB_se3_ag2_f_012561.0606Yeah.2561.4994
2340DCB_int_012561.8180And your sister's probably cool with-2563.1630
2341DCB_se3_ag2_f_012563.2550My sister just s-2564.3452
2343 2564.9257any- Like2565.6689 
2345 2566.6429one year, we went to, um, Chipotle2569.2338 
2347 2569.4462for my sister.2570.1187 
2348DCB_int_012570.2319<laugh> Capitol Grille,2572.8694
2350 2573.0535[Chipotle.]2573.9879 
2351DCB_se3_ag2_f_012573.4641[Yeah.]2573.9667
2352DCB_int_012574.2003Okay.2574.6533
2354 2576.4584And how did Dad feel about that? He was like, mm?2578.7986 
2355DCB_se3_ag2_f_012579.6056Yeah my [dad, he's so fake. He's like, I wanna go with the house. Like whatever you all want to eat]2584.8482
2356DCB_int_012580.3418[<laugh>]2584.5113
2357DCB_se3_ag2_f_012585.3083but then when we would tell him like-2586.6958
2359 2586.8657Cause there's sometimes where I like-2588.1753 
2361 2588.5080Cause like2588.9327 
2363 2589.2442I resent that they call me high maintenance cause like, sure I'd love to go to the Capitol Grille all the time but I also2593.8992 
2365 2594.2461could eat at McDonald's and like, get a fish fillet and be content with life.2597.4428 
2367 2597.8605Or like Red Lobster.2598.9223 
2369 2599.2409But Red Lobster is like a big issue in our house just because like2602.1220 
2371 2602.5933my mom, my sister and I love it, but like,2604.5400 
2373 2604.7170my dad,2605.3470 
2375 2606.0479first of all, like, he's allergic to shellfish so2608.0441 
2377 2608.4588he doesn't like going there. But they have options for him2610.3489 
2379 2610.6392but even that, like, he does not wanna eat [there.]2612.4230 
2380DCB_int_012612.1257[<laugh>]2612.7770
2381DCB_se3_ag2_f_012612.8761So he'll be like, oh yeah, like I'll go wherever you guys wanna go. And then when we tell him,2616.2427
2383 2616.6179he's like, no I don't really wanna do that,2618.5859 
2385 2619.1876[so.]2619.7893 
2386DCB_int_012619.3575[<exhale>]2619.8318
2387DCB_se3_ag2_f_012620.0129<ts>2620.2323
2389 2620.9544Yeah.2621.4782 
2391 2621.6127He'd rather like,2622.6108 
2393 2622.9648r- invest in like,2624.2461 
2395 2625.1663high quality things.2626.3768 
2397 2626.7986And that applies to like,2627.8534 
2399 2628.2852material things also2629.5736 
2401 2630.2036like,2630.6000 
2403 2631.3858<ts> my mom will have like,2632.6995 
2405 2633.2517shoes like2634.2427 
2407 2634.6533sh- worn out shoes2635.8850 
2409 2636.0691that she probably shouldn't be wearing anymore but she just wears them because they're there.2639.1384 
2411 2639.6339And like, she doesn't care2640.8303 
2413 2641.2196but my dad is like,2642.4372 
2415 2642.6496if like2643.3504 
2417 2643.8713his dress shoes get like, the smallest like2646.4409 
2419 2647.2055mark on them or like scuff,2648.7770 
2421 2649.2938he takes them to his shoe guy2650.7986 
2423 2651.0181and gets them shined and stuff.2652.6321 
2425 2653.0143And he's like,2653.6656 
2427 2654.0337really into that.2654.8903 
2429 2655.8601Um,2656.3556 
2431 2656.9685and like he doesn't like shopping at like stores like, uh,2659.6656 
2433 2660.4938uh, you know, like TJ Maxx and stuff2662.4405 
2435 2663.5561<ts> but my mom loves TJ Maxx.2665.2763 
2436DCB_int_012665.7010So how do you feel- th- has that like, you know, cause thinking about Georgetown right and thinking about the socioeconomic climate [here right?]2671.2550
2437DCB_se3_ag2_f_012670.7029[Yeah.]2671.2763
2438DCB_int_012671.6727Th-2671.9700
2440 2672.1540that we have so many students in the top one percent [and we have] more students in the top one percent than we do in the-2677.0568 
2441DCB_se3_ag2_f_012674.6641[Mm-hm.]2675.0338
2442DCB_int_012677.4957the bottom half right? How does-2679.1947
2444 2680.6287where do you- Not necessarily where do you see yourself but how does that feel like on this kind of campus and-2685.0318 
2445DCB_se3_ag2_f_012685.7185Um,2686.1715
2447 2687.2588it's just been weird for me like trying to make friends because2690.1328 
2449 2690.8619a lot of the,2691.3433 
2451 2691.8034uh, the m- a lot of the black students here that I've encountered2694.9648 
2453 2695.5736they're in the Georgetown Scholarship Program2697.8388 
2455 2698.5650and so like,2699.5773 
2457 2700.1295and- and I'm not2701.1488 
2459 2701.2904but I still get some type of assistance from the school.2704.1503 
2461 2704.6287So like when I was a freshman,2705.9596 
2463 2706.4339I noticed that it was like,2707.5311 
2465 2707.7152harder for me to like,2709.1593 
2467 2709.5061become friends with people in the pro- the Scholarship Program,2712.4197 
2469 2713.4108um,2713.9842 
2471 2714.6354just because I guess they made assumptions about me because I wasn't in the p-2717.5561 
2473 2717.8463program with them2718.7666 
2475 2719.0993that like I had all this money2720.6425 
2477 2721.2725when that's not necessarily true.2723.0614 
2479 2723.8605Um,2724.3206 
2481 2725.3258but in terms of being in school with like a bunch of rich people,2728.2990 
2483 2728.7137I've been used to that since2729.8180 
2485 2729.9879middle school cause /RD-SCHOOL-3/2731.6939 
2487 2732.0125was just a bunch of rich people.2733.3504 
2488DCB_int_012734.9968So2735.5632
2490 2735.7755thinking about-2736.4339 
2492 2736.6958Let's look at DC for a minute.2738.2036 
2494 2738.3664Um,2738.8903 
2496 2739.5415talking about rich people2740.6712 
2498 2740.8128and talking about kind of the city and looking at the landscape of the city-2743.9346 
2500 2744.6354I mean you're2745.2371 
2502 2745.9987like twelve2746.8765 
2503DCB_se3_ag2_f_012747.1667[<laugh>]2748.4339
2504DCB_int_012747.2588[but um,]2748.3631
2505 2748.9223[<laugh>]2750.7062
2506DCB_se3_ag2_f_012749.2409[<laugh>]2750.6575
2507DCB_int_012751.7751have you noticed the city changing?2753.6623
2508DCB_se3_ag2_f_012754.3489Um,2755.0639
2510 2755.3187yeah.2755.9346 
2511DCB_int_012756.6213What do you- how- what have you noticed?2758.1361
2512DCB_se3_ag2_f_012758.6854I notice2759.4216
2514 2759.7684way more white people in like, Petworth- the Petworth area.2763.2867 
2515DCB_int_012763.4920[Hm.]2763.8176
2516DCB_se3_ag2_f_012763.6689[Cause] I went to- to like kindergarten over there,2765.6906
2517 2766.3489um,2766.8515
2519 2767.1347and it was-2767.7010 
2521 2767.9842it's just way different now2769.3292 
2523 2769.6689and like the types of stores that they're building in Petworth2772.5400 
2525 2774.1328like it's a complete2775.2938 
2527 2775.5840like mismatch to how I remember Petworth,2777.8038 
2529 2778.1507um, when I was in kindergarten.2779.7364 
2530DCB_int_012780.7982What about your neighborhood now? Who- what's the demographic makeup of your current neighborhood?2784.7878
2531DCB_se3_ag2_f_012785.0427Um,2785.5311
2533 2785.7859it's just like old black people.2787.4990 
2535 2787.8784There's like some young white families but it's not a lot.2791.0568 
2536DCB_int_012791.6019Oh and has it always been like-2793.5274
2537DCB_se3_ag2_f_012793.8318I think2794.3810
2539 2794.5226like the people have2795.4428 
2541 2796.0941the black families that live there, they've just been passing down their houses2799.7964 
2542DCB_int_012799.7751Mm.2800.1503
2543DCB_se3_ag2_f_012800.2111and like saving them for their kids, which is why it's been able to stay mostly black.2804.5151
2545 2805.0602Um,2805.4353 
2547 2805.9775cause like even the house we bought2807.4357 
2549 2807.8463that was2808.2710 
2551 2808.5188a family's house and the siblings just didn't want it anymore.2811.2159 
2553 2811.9025It- cause it was their parents' house but their parents had died so they didn't feel like they needed it anymore.2815.7576 
2555 2816.5292Um,2816.9327 
2557 2817.3292but yeah. My neighborhood's2818.9190 
2559 2819.3296s- mostly2820.2781 
2561 2820.6958black people.2821.3187 
2562DCB_int_012822.5222Do you see that changing in a few years? Like [as-]2824.9614
2563DCB_se3_ag2_f_012824.7420[<ts>]2824.9827
2564 2826.1295Honestly, no.2827.0497
2566 2827.9912I mean2828.4868 
2568 2829.8034just because2830.7208 
2570 2830.9756the houses will probably s- remain s- with the family.2834.4868 
2572 2834.7699Like even my brother has said like,2836.2777 
2574 2836.8199when our parents pass,2837.9525 
2576 2838.2144we're keeping this house.2839.3487 
2578 2840.2744I'm like, okay yeah, sounds good.2841.8671 
2580 2842.3951Um,2842.8694 
2582 2843.1101I don't really see my neighborhood changing too much.2845.2833 
2583DCB_int_012846.6213So let's talk about a couple of DC cultural things, [um,]2850.1507
2584DCB_se3_ag2_f_012849.5773[Mm-hm.]2850.1153
2585DCB_int_012850.4763and interesting we talked about kind of music today in class but let's talk about2853.8034
2587 2853.9633go go music.2854.6358 
2588DCB_se3_ag2_f_012854.6641<laugh>2855.0606
2589DCB_int_012855.0464Were you a big-2855.6906
2590 2856.4905I don't-2856.7949
2592 2856.9152I don't know if I see you as a- a go goer.2858.9823 
2593DCB_se3_ag2_f_012859.3433So I went to a go go once (laughing). [<laugh>]2862.6321
2594DCB_int_012861.0818[<laugh>]2862.2215
2595 2863.1418Oh.2863.4249
2597 2863.5594Tell me about that.2864.3877 
2598DCB_se3_ag2_f_012865.2371I don't know if it was like an authentic go go because it was- You know Sidwell?2868.9152
2599DCB_int_012869.0780Mm.2869.3258
2600DCB_se3_ag2_f_012869.3400It was the- Yeah.2870.3027
2602 2870.4514<laugh>2870.9327 
2604 2871.9733All my-2872.5438 
2606 2872.7845all my black friends were like, you have to go.2874.7949 
2608 2875.0073So I went,2875.6302 
2610 2876.4514and I was like, I'm not having fun.2877.9167 
2612 2878.1969But I don't like parties or crowds2880.0728 
2614 2881.1064so2881.6939 
2616 2882.1116I just shouldn't have been there in the first place.2883.7468 
2618 2884.2182But it was just like,2885.2021 
2620 2885.7897it was so-2886.3985 
2622 2886.6179it was just really noisy to me.2888.2885 
2624 2888.9894And it was hot. [I just did not- I wasn't having] fun.2891.1526 
2625DCB_int_012889.6943[<laugh>]2890.6924
2626DCB_se3_ag2_f_012891.8817Um,2892.3489
2628 2892.6533but like i- it was fine. Like I'm glad I did it,2894.9752 
2630 2895.2513um,2895.6619 
2632 2896.2323<ts>2896.3881 
2634 2896.7066but2897.4853 
2636 2899.0851yeah.2899.7435 
2638 2899.9063I- like I like Chuck Brown.2901.1805 
2640 2901.6406<laugh>2902.3485 
2642 2902.8269That's about the only go go (laughing)2904.4409 
2644 2904.9577I like.2905.5665 
2646 2906.4514And that's just because of my parents.2908.0441 
2647DCB_int_012908.8765I feel like you're an old soul in this little2911.4957
2649 2911.9063young body [here.]2913.1380 
2650DCB_se3_ag2_f_012912.7558[I- I feel] that way too.2913.8955
2651DCB_int_012914.2211Yeah.2914.6075
2652DCB_se3_ag2_f_012914.5792Yeah.2914.9048
2653DCB_int_012914.9898I feel like you're maybe like,2916.2640
2655 2917.1347Lisa May and you're about eighty seven [years old.]2920.2494 
2656DCB_se3_ag2_f_012919.4141[<laugh>]2920.5043
2657DCB_int_012920.9331With the little bun.2922.0445
2658DCB_se3_ag2_f_012922.1861Yeah.2922.5400
2659DCB_int_012922.5754I just want you to have a string of [pearls,]2924.3947
2660DCB_se3_ag2_f_012923.8567[<laugh>]2924.4089
2661DCB_int_012924.5717and maybe like your little church hat.2926.1049
2662DCB_se3_ag2_f_012926.3597Yeah,2926.8482
2664 2927.3508I feel like I'm2928.4055 
2666 2929.0356really mature I [guess. Like] I'm2931.2231 
2667DCB_int_012930.3239[Mm-hm.]2930.7487
2668DCB_se3_ag2_f_012931.5698I'm really ready to graduate.2933.0181
2670 2933.1809Like I don't wanna be here anymore.2934.6604 
2671DCB_int_012934.7878Really?2935.3754
2672DCB_se3_ag2_f_012935.6231I'm not really having fun here. [<laugh>] Yeah.2939.0393
2673DCB_int_012937.9946[Really?]2938.6405
2674 2940.5471Why?2940.9577
2675DCB_se3_ag2_f_012941.5169It's-2941.8355
2677 2942.0408I've had like a really hard time making friends and like keeping friendships,2945.3862 
2679 2945.5207and it's really- been really weird for me because2947.3754 
2681 2947.7930in high school and middle school I had like all the friends in the world,2950.4164 
2683 2950.8623and I was really popular,2951.8251 
2685 2952.4055but here,2953.1347 
2687 2953.2833I've just had a harder time2954.4301 
2689 2955.0885making like meaningful connections2957.3649 
2691 2958.0870and like,2958.5825 
2693 2958.8161I don't have a best friend here2959.9912 
2695 2960.5859which is why I go home so often.2961.8247 
2697 2962.9048<ts> Cause my best friend's at my house, my sister.2964.9054 
2698DCB_int_012966.1399Why do you th-2966.6000
2700 2967.0248I mean well it-2967.6265 
2702 2967.8147I mean and I don't know if you know the answer cause if you knew the answer then you'd have a best friend,2971.4532 
2703DCB_se3_ag2_f_012971.7718<laugh>2972.5009
2704DCB_int_012972.7062but2973.1380
2706 2973.7680can you think- can you point to maybe one or two factors that-2976.9294 
2708 2977.4674Is it2977.8143 
2710 2978.3664just2978.6920 
2712 2978.9044you can't find the right group, you can't find- or is it-2981.7189 
2714 2981.8746Do you feel like it's you? Is it them?2983.3258 
2715DCB_se3_ag2_f_012983.5169Um,2984.0125
2717 2984.2673I feel like-2985.0106 
2719 2985.3575So the first mistake I made was when I was a freshman. I applied to the Living Well Community2990.0813 
2721 2990.7628in VCW so that I could have a bathroom in my room.2992.9827 
2723 2993.2234<ts>2993.4287 
2725 2993.8180But like that cut me off from like,2995.8709 
2726DCB_int_012996.0691Mm-hm.2996.4089
2727DCB_se3_ag2_f_012996.6142everyone else2997.2938
2729 2997.5769cause I was like the only black girl on my floor2999.5207 
2731 3000.0091and like a lot of people3001.3046 
2733 3001.5453especially in my building, you made friends with the people that were on your floor.3004.6405 
2735 3005.1951And so I wasn't really connecting with the other people on my floor except for like the one Indian girl I lived with and we're still friends today.3010.4830 
2737 3011.2304But like,3012.0020 
2739 3012.9931so that was3013.7152 
2741 3014.3735mistake never one.3015.0814 
2743 3015.7043And then I guess just like3017.0606 
2745 3017.5915I've always struggled3019.2338 
2747 3019.4957with like-3020.0762 
2749 3021.1451Well not- not even always, but like,3022.8553 
2751 3024.2144being like, black enough.3025.7010 
2753 3026.2602Some people3026.9186 
2755 3027.2796tell me that I'm not.3028.3556 
2757 3028.8411So like,3029.4924 
2759 3030.1082I don't really wanna like,3031.0639 
2761 3031.2692encounter that cause if I try to become friends with someone and they tell- and they reject me cause I'm black- not black enough to them3036.0091 
2763 3036.6816I just don't wanna deal with that. So like,3038.2319 
2765 3038.6142that's also3039.2513 
2767 3039.3787been what's stopping me in putting myself out there.3041.3791 
2769 3041.8251But like even3042.5047 
2771 3042.7029I'm in BSA and like,3043.8497 
2773 3044.8478I guess I'd- I'd say I'm friends with the board members but like3047.6977 
2775 3048.2144none of them are like my best friends.3049.9417 
2776DCB_int_013050.3593What does it mean to be black enough?3051.7539
2777DCB_se3_ag2_f_013051.8884<ts>3052.1369
2779 3052.3031I don't know! Like,3053.5278 
2781 3053.8605just I- I don't know. Like people3055.6231 
2783 3056.0762tell me I talk white and stuff and that like I'm an Oreo.3059.1809 
2785 3060.2710And3060.9719 
2787 3062.2107<ts>3062.3806 
2789 3062.5575I don't know.3063.1168 
2791 3063.5132Like3063.8601 
2793 3064.1049cause there's no one way of being black3065.9383 
2795 3067.3824in my opinion.3068.2461 
2797 3068.4938So I don't see like,3069.5061 
2799 3069.7043why people are saying that to me.3071.1054 
2801 3072.9648I don't know.3073.5736 
2802DCB_int_013076.8830I think this is just absolute3078.3352
2804 3078.5731fascinating [actually.]3079.6604 
2805DCB_se3_ag2_f_013079.3187[<laugh>]3080.0953
2806DCB_int_013080.1399No, and I- and I say that in- in all honesty, no jesting,3083.4953
2808 3083.9555because I-3084.5642 
2810 3085.4816The concept of not being3087.2159 
2812 3087.5274black enough, [right?]3088.8370 
2813DCB_se3_ag2_f_013088.2848[Mm-hm.]3088.7237
2814DCB_int_013089.0140We- we've talked about kind of what it means to talk white and we're gonna talk more about that kind of this idea of like speaking while black and-3095.0494
2816 3095.5095and what does that mean and- and these concepts of,3098.2603 
2818 3098.4089<clears throat>3098.9257 
2820 3099.9167um,3100.6246 
2822 3101.9979all the consequences of being a black person and3104.5859 
2824 3104.9115some of the social [consequences, um,]3107.0918 
2825DCB_se3_ag2_f_013106.3344[Mm-hm.]3106.7025
2826DCB_int_013107.5236and thinking about like, the Trayvon Martin case and- and Rachel Jeantel. Like, she was- she was too black.3112.3344
2827DCB_se3_ag2_f_013112.4689[Yeah.]3112.9219
2828DCB_int_013112.5680[Right?]3112.9856
2829 3113.3608And so-3113.9555
2831 3115.4674and so the social consequences of not being black enough3118.6246 
2833 3118.8157in a place where3120.0333 
2835 3121.7647embracing blackness3123.4920 
2837 3125.9625when the black community is small, right? [So]3128.4018 
2838DCB_se3_ag2_f_013127.9842[Mm-hm.]3128.3594
2839DCB_int_013128.5859when you embrace some bit of blackness,3130.6644
2841 3130.8795why is that not accepted?3132.4793 
2842DCB_se3_ag2_f_013133.4603I don't know (whispered).3133.9346
2843DCB_int_013136.5326<ts>3136.7308
2845 3137.0918Mm, that would be interesting for you to write about this in one of your reflections3140.7345 
2847 3141.0389if it fits with one of the readings in- [in kind of] this idea of-3144.0262 
2848DCB_se3_ag2_f_013142.7237[Yeah.]3143.0281
2849DCB_int_013145.2975this notion of3146.2532
2850DCB_se3_ag2_f_013147.7539<clears throat>3148.0441
2851DCB_int_013148.0371does not being black enough mean being3150.0262
2852 3150.3236white though?3150.9790
2853DCB_se3_ag2_f_013152.1116Well no cause3153.1876
2855 3155.0069I-3155.3113 
2857 3155.7360[/?/]3155.9555 
2858DCB_int_013155.7502[Or acting] white?3156.5713
2859DCB_se3_ag2_f_013156.9577Well3157.3895
2861 3159.1239I don't know. <laugh>3160.8653 
2862DCB_int_013162.7241So how you feel like BS- do you feel like your au- your interactions with BSA are authentic?3167.1272
2864 3167.4175Like with the [people with] BSA is it a- like are they authentic interactions?3171.1168 
2865DCB_se3_ag2_f_013167.8068[<ts>]3168.0516
2866 3171.2796Yeah.3171.7610
2868 3173.9130I j- Yeah.3174.7500 
2870 3175.4674I just think I'm like-3176.2319 
2872 3176.8549I just feel like,3177.5415 
2874 3178.3627I'm not like a partier,3179.4812 
2876 3180.0333and that's how like the black community connects here.3182.0788 
2878 3183.0531And I j- I would rather not go to a party ever.3185.5449 
2880 3186.4197Um,3187.0781 
2882 3187.5240so like I don't- they don't see me out and stuff3189.5911 
2884 3190.2777so like-3190.8936 
2886 3192.9436Sorry, what was your question?3194.0915 
2887DCB_int_013194.1399No keep going.3194.9599
2888DCB_se3_ag2_f_013194.9965Oh.3195.4141
2890 3196.1574Like yeah it's authentic3197.3962 
2892 3197.5307with- when I'm with BSA3199.1135 
2894 3199.5240just because like those are the people I know well3201.4920 
2896 3201.6760and they know me well3202.5892 
2898 3203.1343but like3203.6157 
2900 3203.7856people have /already/ came in with like established friend- friend groups.3207.3646 
2902 3207.9096So it's kind of hard to like,3209.2546 
2904 3209.4458enter those3210.3165 
2906 3210.6604late into the game.3211.6302 
2907DCB_int_013212.5859Are there other students from D-3213.6973
2909 3213.9380DC3214.3769 
2911 3214.6388that you know coming into Georgetown?3216.4864 
2912DCB_se3_ag2_f_013217.1276Um, yeah.3218.2744
2913DCB_int_013219.2159Were you not close at- I mean not because y'all are just from DC y'all should be automatic [friends.]3223.2550
2914DCB_se3_ag2_f_013222.6604[No so] like3223.7860
2915 3224.0054one girl I know here, we went to elementary school together.3226.5821
2917 3227.9130And like,3228.5147 
2919 3228.8657I don't think she remembers who I am.3230.3594 
2921 3230.5505But like I know her.3231.4566 
2923 3232.5184<laugh>3233.4529 
2925 3233.5874And then3234.2315 
2927 3234.4126three other girls, we went to middle school together.3236.6708 
2929 3237.2725<ts> Two of them I-3238.1362 
2931 3238.6671like we see each other and we pretend like we don't know each other,3240.7500 
2933 3241.2126um, cause like,3242.2390 
2935 3242.6213<ts>3242.8690 
2937 3243.7114just3244.3344 
2939 3244.9078/RD-SCHOOL-3/ culture.3246.4651 
2941 3247.5736I'd rather not hang out with them.3248.6850 
2943 3249.0672But one of them3249.7681 
2945 3250.0300we were best friends in middle school3251.6865 
2947 3252.0729and like I hang out with her but, um,3254.3806 
2949 3254.7983she's like3255.5203 
2951 3256.0725in Blue and Gray,3257.0210 
2953 3257.2546a group that gives [tours] and then3258.6321 
2954DCB_int_013257.9242[Mm-hm.]3258.3702
2955DCB_se3_ag2_f_013258.8940she's also in3259.7647
2957 3260.0408Gr- the Grace Notes,3261.1310 
2959 3261.5769which is one of the a capella groups.3262.9361 
2961 3263.1343So she's always with them.3264.1537 
2962DCB_int_013264.4622So she's a-3264.9648
2964 3265.0922she's displaying a very different kind of identity as well.3268.0441 
2965DCB_se3_ag2_f_013268.1928Yeah.3268.6034
2967 3269.7643Well3270.1749 
2969 3271.0851also3271.6302 
2971 3271.8214all of the people I've been talking about are white.3273.5345 
2972DCB_int_013273.6760Mm-hm.3274.1291
2973DCB_se3_ag2_f_013274.1786Yeah.3274.5538
2975 3275.4175Um,3275.8988 
2977 3276.9223yeah.3277.3754 
2979 3277.8355Plus I like,3278.4443 
2981 3280.2353cause, um,3280.9432 
2983 3281.6298<ts>3281.7785 
2985 3282.1607all-3282.6675 
2987 3282.8940like my mom, my dad, my brother and my3285.3150 
2989 3285.6973sister in law all went to Howard.3287.1980 
2991 3287.7856So I feel like this pressure to have black friends.3289.9346 
2993 3290.9398<ts> So and like,3292.1503 
2995 3292.6529I don't actively seek out white friends but like3294.5054 
2997 3295.6302that's also3296.2461 
2999 3297.0389cause like I feel like I can't really connect to them3299.5307 
3001 3300.1790as well as I can to like3301.7576 
3003 3301.9629black girls on campus.3303.1863 
3004DCB_int_013304.2707Mm.3304.5255
3006 3305.1343Are you involved in like any other social groups like sororities or?3308.6071 
3007DCB_se3_ag2_f_013308.9186No.3309.2230
3008DCB_int_013309.4495Besides Res Life, BSA?3311.2688
3009DCB_se3_ag2_f_013311.4670<ts> Yeah that's all I do.3312.5583
3010DCB_int_013313.3117I mean that's a lot actually.3314.3014
3011DCB_se3_ag2_f_013314.2956It is a lot.3314.9469
3012DCB_int_013314.9823Residence Life takes a lot of time.3316.2353
3013DCB_se3_ag2_f_013316.2777I'm tired.3316.8511
3014DCB_int_013318.0333And you're tryna graduate.3318.9999
3015DCB_se3_ag2_f_013319.6019Yeah I can't wait (whispered).3320.3169
3016DCB_int_013320.7983How are your grades? Pretty good?3321.9804
3017DCB_se3_ag2_f_013322.8653Yeah.3323.2617
3019 3323.4458They're fine.3323.9413 
3021 3324.0799[<laugh>] Yeah. <laugh>3325.9230 
3022DCB_int_013324.2428[They're fine.]3324.5825
3023 3326.1965Well you're doing well in my class so that's really all that matters for me.3328.8157
3024DCB_se3_ag2_f_013328.8370Yeah. <laugh>3329.9059
3025DCB_int_013330.2994I'm selfish.3330.9719
3027 3331.4249Um,3331.9559 
3029 3332.1611so what about thinking about,3333.6831 
3031 3334.2424um,3334.7237 
3033 3335.2192so you like Chuck Brown3336.6675 
3034DCB_se3_ag2_f_013336.8020[<laugh>]3337.4478
3035DCB_int_013336.9011[and you're like a] eighty two- eighty seven year old woman inside deep down.3340.0654
3036DCB_se3_ag2_f_013340.1503Yeah.3340.6388
3037DCB_int_013340.6459Um, mumbo sauce?3342.0404
3038DCB_se3_ag2_f_013342.7312Okay.3343.1630
3040 3343.5665[I've never had] it,3344.4797 
3041DCB_int_013343.5878[/??/]3344.1218
3042DCB_se3_ag2_f_013345.4566but I don't like sauces. [<laugh> But my sister's had it and she said it was great.]3350.6567
3043DCB_int_013346.8795[<laugh>]3350.6638
3044 3351.4212So we just gonna take her word for it.3352.5467
3045DCB_se3_ag2_f_013352.6812Yeah I mean like I- I wanna try it3354.7312
3047 3356.0833because she said it was good so like I trust her.3358.3273 
3049 3359.8776So one day I'll try it.3361.0568