Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DCB_int_01	0.3310	And where were you born?	1.4254
2	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2.3292	Uh, what was the name of that hospital?	4.8503
4		7.4688	<ts>	7.5528
6		7.6809	Washington Hospital Center.	8.7968
7	DCB_int_01	13.0354	And	13.7009
9		13.9250	what neighborhood did you grow up in or that you claim is your neighborhood?	16.7223
10	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	18.0869	Mm.	18.8313
12		19.6769	Well I don't know, only cause	21.2736
14		21.9819	ti-	22.2501
16		22.4502	there's like a bunch. But I- I would say	24.5271
18		24.6284	mostly Northeast Washington at this point but that's not where I grew up.	29.9268
19	DCB_int_01	30.1950	Okay [so let's] talk about that part.	31.7576
20	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	30.5751	[I-]	30.8793
21		32.3772	Well like,	33.0135
23		33.4057	until I was ten I grew up in Adelphi, Maryland, sorry [I kicked you.] And then uh,	37.7244
24	DCB_int_01	36.3390	[Mm-hm.]	36.7872
25	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	38.8134	after that Hyattsville, which is really close, so	41.7377
27		42.5684	primarily Prince George's County	44.5373
29		44.6013	until high school.	45.9704
30	DCB_int_01	48.9245	And then did you come into the District at that point?	50.9255
31	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	51.0815	Yeah uh,	52.4342
33		52.7743	s- what is the name of that-	54.0189
35		54.2110	I don't know what the name of that neighborhood is.	55.5796
37		56.3012	It was basically sixteenth street Northwest and Underwood, it was my grandma's house, so.	63.3766
39		64.5382	It's kind of near Gold Coast, near um <ts> where Walter Reed	67.9570
41		68.3212	was.	69.1135
42	DCB_int_01	73.1394	And where did you go to school?	73.9530
43	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	74.7054	Uh, for middle, high, elementary, all of the [above?]	79.8570
44	DCB_int_01	79.5768	[Whatever] you'd like to tell [me.]	80.7254
45	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	80.6373	[Oh], okay.	81.2536
46		81.7138	Elementary school, well, /RD-SCHOOL-7/,	85.3035
48		86.0290	which was PG County.	88.7423
50		89.3666	Then /RD-SCHOOL-7/,	91.1314
52		92.0290	these are all small and private, FYI.	94.3141
54		94.7983	Um, also in PG County.	97.0514
56		98.2171	Then /RD-SCHOOL-3/,	100.3756
58		101.2145	just DC.	102.3075
60		102.5877	<ts>	102.6997
62		103.3800	And undergrad, /RD-SCHOOL-3/,	107.2067
64		108.2755	law school, /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	109.7266
65	DCB_int_01	112.8416	And what's your current occupation?	114.1376
66	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	115.1719	<ts>	115.2560
68		115.7162	Team lead	116.9295
70		117.6531	um,	118.6734
72		118.8108	on a document review project.	121.6201
73	DCB_int_01	126.9478	And is that under like,	128.1724
75		128.5086	law?	129.0848
77		129.2449	I'm assuming [since you went to law school.]	130.9657
78	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	129.7691	[<laugh> Yeah] yeah it's- [it's- it's] a l- it's a law [job.]	133.1479
79	DCB_int_01	131.4111	[<laugh>]	131.8245
81		132.9358	[Okay.]	133.4372
82		134.7767	Um, what about your parents, where were they born?	136.6015
83	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	137.2898	My dad was born in Rochester, New York but	140.9539
85		141.8892	he lived- he moved- his family moved here	145.7285
87		147.0448	when he was maybe ten I think, so he spent most	149.8661
89		150.0754	of his	151.1639
91		151.8843	youth in DC.	153.2809
93		154.2294	My mom was born in	156.1925
95		156.3556	Baltimore, Maryland.	157.8236
97		158.5366	Then	159.4410
99		160.2454	in high school moved to Parkersburg, West Virginia where part of her family's from until undergrad.	166.7192
101		167.9354	Well,	168.2075
103		168.2795	through undergrad and then she moved into the area as an adult and has been in DC	171.9475
105		172.4174	since then.	173.0241
106	DCB_int_01	174.0354	And what did your parents do? Or what do they do?	175.6442
107	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	176.7567	They- my dad,	179.4935
109		180.3235	he	181.3400
111		181.8923	origin- he started as a teacher, he went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ too for grad school.	185.0697
113		185.5272	So he was- he taught	187.5081
115		187.5801	then he was	190.0813
117		190.2534	in DC on the radio for some years	193.1559
119		193.3280	on /RD-WORK-3/.	194.3045
121		195.1128	And then he went back to teaching and is now a high school administrator.	198.9132
123		199.8963	And my mom	201.8412
125		203.0470	she's always been administration,	205.6322
127		205.7522	and /RD-SCHOOL-5/ for like	208.0333
129		208.1053	thirty years and now she's	209.6773
131		209.8713	at-	210.6037
133		212.2124	well,	212.6538
135		212.8247	yeah,	213.2409
137		213.3810	so.	213.7143
139		213.9252	No, she's still at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, so.	215.1228
140	DCB_int_01	215.4070	[Still at] /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	216.0536
141	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	215.4430	[Yeah.]	215.7030
142	DCB_int_01	218.4576	So I'm gonna put all my papers away.	221.2149
143	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	221.2069	Does that part have to be on the website or whatever you guys are doing?	224.8218
144	DCB_int_01	224.8978	No no no no no no [no.]	226.0765
145	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	225.8662	[Okay great.] Okay.	227.0596
146	DCB_int_01	226.4025	[No no no no no] no.	227.2349
147	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	227.7671	Or like,	228.1873
149		228.4087	might be easy to	229.1370
150	DCB_int_01	229.2811	[No, so anything] that- like I said, [anything that /idi-/]	231.9901
151	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	229.3091	[whittle me down.]	229.9053
153		231.0739	[Identifying information?]	232.5539
154	DCB_int_01	232.2344	[Yup.]	232.6186
155		232.9788	So like, let's say if you give a name,	234.7388
157		235.0009	[um],	235.5609
158	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	235.0129	[Mm-hm.]	235.3463
159	DCB_int_01	235.6252	we can	236.0225
161		236.2295	redact all that out or we just won't use that story.	238.4757
162	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	238.7146	Gotcha.	239.1268
163	DCB_int_01	239.1468	Yup.	239.3950
165		239.5430	So- and if at any point there's anything- at the end we'll also go back if you said something that you wanted taken out,	244.6466
167		244.9668	we'll do that as well.	245.6951
168	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	245.7191	<ts> I don't s- really foresee this I just wanna make sure especially since I was talking about my parents, I was like, [oh.]	250.9438
169	DCB_int_01	250.5666	[Oh no] no no no.	251.4190
170		251.4990	M- [totally understand] that.	252.9497
171	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	251.8152	[Yeah.]	252.2218
172	DCB_int_01	253.4171	Um, so let's kind of start at the beginning.	255.6407
174		256.0263	Um,	256.5866
176		256.7026	I know you said you started out in PG. [So you were born] in DC,	259.7093
177	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	258.4487	[Mm-hm.]	258.8929
178		259.8253	[Mm-hm.]	260.1815
179	DCB_int_01	259.9654	[and] then,	260.6617
180		260.8578	um,	261.5181
182		262.1424	how were you-	263.1108
184		263.1949	how did you guys get back to PG? So were your parents [living in P-]	265.9315
185	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	265.3980	[Oh th- they were] living in [PG County] in Adelphi.	268.6007
186	DCB_int_01	267.1280	[Okay.]	267.5534
187	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	268.7488	I just-	269.4651
189		269.5372	that was the hospital.	270.3638
190	DCB_int_01	270.5536	Oh okay, okay.	271.3323
192		271.6354	So tell me about your neighborhood growing up, what you remember.	274.5514
194		274.7328	In Adelphi.	275.4101
195	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	275.5932	Uh, we lived	277.1572
197		277.2992	t- in Adelphi until I was nine, I mighta said ten before, but nine.	281.9453
199		282.5536	And it was a really busy street, it's- it's on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Road, the house.	288.1643
201		288.8378	So,	289.6193
203		290.2877	I don't really remember th- I mean I remember the house.	292.5727
205		293.0009	There wasn't much neighborhood wise like,	295.4806
207		296.4637	I'm-	297.3802
209		298.0245	have a brother but he's so much older than me, I was raised as an only child.	301.4930
211		301.7674	So	302.6678
213		303.5602	I wasn't- and I was- you know, until I was nine so I wasn't- it was busy so I wasn't	308.0115
215		308.1396	running the neighborhood and like hanging out with neighbors or other kids it was- if I'm home I was in the house.	314.6638
217		315.2521	Um, <ts>	316.1405
219		317.1810	so in term- so there's really	318.8030
221		318.8830	unfortunately not that much neighborhood I can give you. Now when	322.5167
223		322.9929	my parents separated and my mom and I moved to uh, Hyattsville,	328.3072
225		328.6888	that was a quiet neighborhood, there were lots of kids, bike riding,	333.4882
227		334.2966	tag, that kind of stuff, so.	336.1935
229		336.7857	Um,	337.3712
231		337.4513	but that was Hyattsville and that was when I was in like fourth grade,	341.0769
233		341.2530	[so.]	341.6904
234	DCB_int_01	341.2530	[Okay so] let's Hyattsville then, [we don't have] to-	343.5541
235	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	342.7337	[Okay.]	343.2444
236	DCB_int_01	343.6554	there's no [need-]	344.4877
237	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	344.3837	[There] wa- yeah I was like, there's not really much to give you there.	346.4767
238		346.6407	Um, <ts>	347.5372
240		348.2455	uh, Hyattsville what I remember was mostly-	351.5282
242		352.1325	it was all- it was a black neighborhood, black kids,	355.9675
244		356.1316	um, <ts>	357.0440
246		358.1445	I'm	358.4447
248		358.7488	trying to figure out what	359.4651
250		359.7933	you guys are looking for for me to talk about, um, I primarily- I was closest to-	365.3531
252		366.2455	My main friend was	368.3344
254		368.4105	a girl across the street and her family we were always at each other's houses.	372.7724
256		373.4500	Um,	374.4100
258		375.4469	you know, I could eat dinner at her house she could eat dinner at mine, sleepovers, normal	380.2731
260		381.7031	friend, you know, stuff, neighborhood stuff. Rode bikes,	385.7985
262		386.1143	so a lot of bike riding.	387.5270
264		389.4171	[There was-]	389.7904
265	DCB_int_01	389.4171	[Was that because] it was off the beaten path [or just-]	392.0193
266	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	391.3460	[<ts> Yeah it was] off of uh, Queen's Chapel.	393.9153
267	DCB_int_01	393.9592	Mm, mm-hm.	394.3885
268	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	394.6435	And so the neighborhood was fairly low traffic, enough where my mom felt comfortable	400.7275
270		401.3090	with uh, me, you know, being able to ride my bike	404.3864
272		405.0788	with at least one other person.	406.8276
274		407.0329	So, yeah.	408.0173
276		408.3055	Maybe within like-	409.5461
278		410.1984	we could kind of g- /well,/	411.3464
280		412.7916	yeah I'm trying to remember, I don't remember really having much of a curfew but	416.3504
282		416.7066	I've never been one of those ch- children- push boundaries, so.	420.0882
284		420.7777	She never really had to worry about it.	422.5345
286		423.8031	Um,	425.1277
288		425.3250	yeah, we didn't go too far.	427.7437
289	DCB_int_01	427.7081	Mm.	427.9641
290	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	427.9262	There was a park nearby so we could go to the playground over there, ride our bikes to that.	432.3135
291		432.8817	But that's	433.3099
293		433.6421	pretty much what I remember from that.	435.7831
294	DCB_int_01	436.2873	So you stayed there until you were fourteen?	438.5025
295	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	438.6977	Yeah.	439.1057
296	DCB_int_01	439.3460	And so before we move on to	441.2228
298		441.3829	when you came into DC,	443.3394
299	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	443.3090	Uh-huh.	443.6132
300	DCB_int_01	443.9693	tell me about	444.7760
302		445.4060	um, elementary s- cause you were elementary and middle school in PG?	448.4674
303	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	448.7355	Yeah.	449.2718
304	DCB_int_01	449.7052	Were they	450.3305
306		450.4896	like,	450.8177
308		451.2499	memorable years? Were they kind of just	453.2873
310		453.4389	run of the mill?	454.3033
311	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	455.7892	Uh,	457.1739
313		457.5140	what I remember about	459.0948
315		459.2308	school at least in elementary at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ bef-	461.6880
317		461.8052	that was	462.2133
319		462.7497	through third grade	463.9262
321		464.5785	was that it was-	466.4114
323		466.7956	I don't know too much about Montessori, what I remember being told was that it's like, a very hands-on	471.4289
325		471.6470	uh,	472.2724
327		472.4674	type of program so I remember not having homework.	474.8417
329		475.6901	Um, <ts> that was more integrated it was-	479.0037
331		479.6132	I remember there being mostly white kids.	481.7598
333		482.0263	I mean that's pretty much my entire educational experience, except for /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	485.0731
335		485.4519	Um,	486.1414
337		486.3415	<ts>	486.4535
339		488.1223	and yeah, that- so that's really what I remember from New City.	490.9648
341		491.0849	I liked my	491.9133
343		492.3135	third grade teacher,	493.4668
345		493.7101	or first through third grade teacher.	495.1028
347		496.0272	Uh, small class, I feel like in third grade it was only two of us.	499.9342
349		500.2104	But we were in a classroom with other grades,	502.7316
350	DCB_int_01	502.7595	Oh, [okay.]	503.4639
351	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	503.2238	[So we] would do- they could	504.3375
352		504.5856	kind of individualize what we're doing	506.8186
354		507.5190	within a classroom of	508.9123
356		509.3570	not that many	510.2334
358		510.4295	people.	510.9629
360		511.6701	Um, so fourth grade was a sh- s- kind of a weird transition cause that was a much more traditional,	517.2059
362		517.9462	uh,	518.5585
364		519.3749	school	520.1149
366		520.2713	setting.	520.9596
368		521.0557	Still really small, m- uh, I feel like in fourth grade maybe there were	524.2504
370		526.1192	twenty,	526.8806
372		526.9956	somewhere between twenty and thirty kids in the class.	529.4300
374		530.0943	Um, it was religious,	532.3954
376		533.5371	but that was the first time I'd had homework and like traditional	536.8518
378		537.6110	lecture and textbook type of learning.	540.9858
380		542.0103	Mixed,	543.1009
382		543.3349	so it was maybe fifty-ish, fifty-ish.	547.3780
384		547.8582	So that was good.	549.4389
386		551.0037	<ts>	551.1157
387	DCB_int_01	551.5011	And at the Montessori school was it- it- was it mixed or was it-	554.2504
388	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	554.3464	Montessori I feel like was mostly white, I mean that's going back to third grade so I'm like, uh, I don't remember , I don't- I remem- I mean I feel like there were some black kids there but-	562.5371
390		564.3575	there were s- there were some.	565.6741
392		565.7902	But I feel like it was fifty, fifty.	568.2713
394		568.6755	Didn't feel like much of a transition going from	570.7222
396		570.8898	elementary to middle.	573.1628
397	DCB_int_01	573.4269	Right.	573.7216
398	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	573.9672	There was a bigger transition going from middle to high school when I went into DC,	580.1272
400		580.7795	cause	581.6319
402		582.1814	that was a	583.1099
404		583.7702	fancier,	584.7266
406		585.0107	much more co- expensive school, and it was s- six out of sixty, I was	590.6946
408		590.9907	one of six out of sixty.	592.1673
409	DCB_int_01	593.0237	Gotcha.	593.3970
410	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	593.4919	Um,	594.2374
412		596.3304	well you're talking about language, okay so one thing I guess I can think of was	600.2815
414		601.0658	you asked about living in Hyattsville before moving to DC,	606.1494
416		606.6576	where it was a bunch of kids.	607.9983
417	DCB_int_01	608.0063	Mm-hm.	608.3463
418	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	608.8827	That one I felt like	610.0712
420		610.3674	there was a little bit of teasing about	612.7497
422		613.0378	how I talk.	614.0503
424		615.0347	Um,	615.7748
426		616.7435	I mean nothing I- I mean I was okay.	618.6369
428		618.9738	I feel like I- a- I did write my uh,	621.0868
430		621.6790	/RD-SCHOOL-2/-	622.1473
432		622.3033	/RD-SCHOOL-3/ uh- well my college	624.3135
434		625.4460	essays on that and to be honest it was kind of playing the	629.0557
436		629.2810	race card a little bit but whatever it worked out, so.	631.7690
438		631.9422	<ts>	632.0943
440		632.6226	Uh- [<laugh>]	633.6950
441	DCB_int_01	633.3949	[What?] <laugh> So I wanna ask you about that,	635.4519
442		635.5611	but I wanna go back	636.4776
444		636.9578	before I ask you about	638.2365
446		639.1108	about the [teasing]	640.3153
447	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	639.9672	[I'm gonna] own that. [Huh?]	641.4799
448	DCB_int_01	641.2810	[<laugh>]	645.1588
449	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	642.0574	[It's anonymous. Huh? <laugh>]	645.6030
450	DCB_int_01	646.2113	How was-	647.1637
452		647.3570	you said your third grade teacher was your favorite,	649.6501
453	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	649.7261	Mm-hm.	650.1448
454	DCB_int_01	650.3504	like,	650.6344
456		650.9387	what-	651.2694
457	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	651.4149	[Why?]	651.8991
458	DCB_int_01	651.5510	[who was] it or-	652.6035
459	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	653.0157	She was just very- she was stern but in a way that was-	659.0730
461		659.4091	that I respected I feel like	661.9291
463		662.8707	as much as I can remember feeling that way as someone who's you know, how old are you in third grade like, nine? Eight? I feel like she	669.7311
465		670.1072	demanded the most and out of me, it was	671.6640
467		671.8012	hard on me but	672.7097
469		672.9418	if I did well she rewarded that.	674.7500
470	DCB_int_01	675.0588	Mm.	675.3014
471	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	675.4269	Um, I feel like I went to	678.0241
473		678.9258	fourth grade prepared even though I had had a	681.3789
475		681.6070	totally different	682.6995
477		684.0494	kind of	685.2539
479		685.3940	exper- feel like ev- a lot of the kids	687.0307
481		687.3109	at my middle school had gone to	689.2749
483		689.8933	that same school for third grade or	691.6770
485		691.9622	prior [so they] were used to homework and things like that.	694.0112
486	DCB_int_01	692.5588	[Mm-hm.]	692.7882
487	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	694.3834	So I feel like I was still prepared, it wasn't a difficult transition	699.1668
489		699.6950	having homework and writing papers and	702.1054
491		702.5696	having real projects which I just never had	705.3469
493		705.5870	before that, so.	706.9836
495		707.8613	Mm.	708.6839
497		709.4900	<ts>	709.5741
499		709.9302	That's what I remember, I remember my parents also really liked her too.	712.6436
501		713.4639	Um,	714.0572
503		715.1819	I don't know I guess it was two third graders she really worked with me, and uh, she's the person who taught me to read so I think it was like, you spend three years with someone [especially] at that age	723.7711
504	DCB_int_01	722.6029	[Mm.]	722.7981
505	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	724.1993	and they really work with you	725.4819
507		726.1054	um,	727.0307
509		727.3059	<ts>	727.5020
511		727.8262	I feel like that's probably why she was my [favorite.]	729.5870
512	DCB_int_01	729.1468	[So you had] her all first, kindergarten, first, second- or [first, sec-]	732.1915
513	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	731.5691	[First grade], second grade, and third grade, [yeah. Mm-hm.]	734.8186
514	DCB_int_01	733.8862	[Gotcha, okay. So] they kind of followed you along the pa- I mean [well it's a small school.]	737.9395
515	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	736.8636	[Yeah cause I think you stayed] in your s- in that s- I feel like I stayed in that same room.	740.9129
516		741.3669	Cause by the time we got to third grade it was only two of us.	744.2014
518		744.4856	And I don't know if they were- I don't know if they were phasing out	746.4825
520		746.8387	that	747.1893
522		747.3069	I have no idea but I know it was only two of us	750.4736
524		751.0698	by the time we got to third grade and I just remember that y-	754.5915
526		754.9048	they still s- had you separate by like what	757.1819
528		757.4540	I'm doing	758.3504
530		759.0267	mathematically is different /from/ what these kids- group of kids is- is doing.	763.1545
532		763.6621	So that's how they did it from what I remember.	765.5750
533	DCB_int_01	765.7831	And now [going back t-]	766.9276
534	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	766.1513	[That's taking a-] a dive	768.1374
535		768.3495	<laugh> in the memory bank, but that's what I remember.	770.6706
536	DCB_int_01	771.3669	Now going back to	772.9956
538		773.1329	the whole being teased, cause I thought it was really cute how you were describing it.	777.4729
540		778.1312	Why were you teased? Or what do you feel like-	780.7857
542		781.1659	when you- like, what [did you write about, yeah.]	783.3749
543	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	781.9502	[What do I remember? Being taught] uh,	783.9272
544		784.0072	that	784.2205
546		784.3834	I talk	784.8036
548		785.0449	white.	785.4022
550		785.6492	And	786.8265
552		788.4105	I mean I'd grown up-	789.7711
554		790.0672	so like my mom, I wouldn't say my parents,	792.3625
556		792.6256	I love my dad very much but he was not the activity person, like figure out the activities for me, so.	797.7720
558		798.3375	Um,	799.0295
560		799.3420	my mom always made sure to	801.2068
562		801.3869	try to keep me balanced between,	803.8149
564		804.8457	even though I-	805.4420
566		805.9422	growing up I was in these white schools that I was always involved in a black activity so growing up it was very busy like,	812.0571
568		813.4469	ballet class, tap class, they were at the same dance school and it was this-	817.8942
570		818.1263	it was a black uh, dance school.	820.4874
572		821.0877	<ts>	821.1877
574		821.3891	Uh, and uh,	823.4264
576		824.1143	church was black.	825.9031
578		826.3994	So I always had friends, some of 'em I still keep in touch with from way back then	831.7951
580		832.3954	that were	833.0740
582		833.4051	outside of school and then	835.7491
584		836.0703	I'd come to school but	837.1676
586		837.5910	educationally I'd grown up	839.0917
588		839.6012	around these white kids, so.	841.8837
590		843.7271	The English was proper, I'm not saying that	845.8841
592		846.1454	blacks don't-	847.1227
594		847.3740	not saying blacks can't speak properly, I'm just saying that, you know when you're young you know you're in middle school, so of course you know.	853.9838
596		854.8947	And I'm a little nerdy, I'm an only child, I'm a little weird, you know like all that stuff, so it makes it	859.7622
598		860.1183	pretty easy	861.2909
600		861.8151	to be	862.5231
602		863.3610	you know the	864.2037
604		864.8697	the one to be teased, especially for how I talk, so I used that. I was like, okay well,	868.8916
606		869.0449	<ts>	869.1409
608		869.4971	what can I use for this uh-	871.2899
610		873.4950	uh, essay?	874.9350
612		875.2850	You know, cause they say you have to stand out.	877.2663
614		877.3660	You know, using race I'd- you know, you- you- you're the minority in	881.6439
616		882.0053	a white environment, especially by the time I was in high school, diversity, diversity, diversity, that was like all they talked about. Not all they talked about, that was a big part of it.	889.5020
618		890.0583	And I was like, well I'm going to use that, and <laugh>	893.7240
620		893.8653	I did.	894.3015
621	DCB_int_01	894.7537	And you got in.	895.4380
622	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	895.4620	<ts>	895.5501
624		896.2664	There we go.	897.0424
626		897.3429	So,	897.8991
628		898.3073	that is it.	899.0340
629	DCB_int_01	899.1449	How- how big is the gap between you and your brother?	901.4660
630	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	902.6346	Oh, so random story there so he's fif-	906.9658
632		908.3264	fifty two.	909.1028
634		909.9232	And I'm	910.3298
636		910.8476	thirty two.	911.4171
638		912.1814	Um, my mom	913.6701
640		914.3704	had him when she was in high school, and she gave him up for adoption and then we found him.	917.6968
642		918.4856	Which is like a random s- random aside uh, found him in two thousand when I was in-	922.7075
644		922.8676	when I was eighteen so that's what I mean by like,	925.0658
646		925.3700	I have a brother	926.2820
647	DCB_int_01	926.6546	Mm.	926.9106
648	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	927.1388	that	927.3948
650		928.0992	I claim and	929.2130
652		929.6012	our families are pretty close now but	931.7141
654		932.2904	growing up	933.2789
656		933.4029	you know, I didn't even- I knew he existed, my mother told me he existed but I didn't know him, none of us did,	938.4903
658		938.6786	so.	939.0307
660		939.4589	That's why I say raised as an only child like, very [much-]	941.7383
661	DCB_int_01	941.6252	[/??/]	941.9453
662	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	941.9813	yeah, not even like, oh I have this brother, no, like-	945.1068
663	DCB_int_01	945.1028	Cause I have a older brother, we're seven- I mean uh, yeah, we're seven years apart.	948.1694
664	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	948.2695	[Okay.]	948.7855
665	DCB_int_01	948.3215	[But]	948.5816
666		948.9858	it was enough	949.6701
668		949.8462	of a gap that he did his own things	952.1152
670		952.4794	and then	952.9276
672		953.1209	he left the house and I was still in school so	955.3500
674		955.7301	[it felt- but you] are like, [really only child yeah, like-]	959.7608
675	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	955.7341	[Oh yeah, no, yeah.]	956.9787
677		957.3949	[Totally separate lives, yeah.]	959.7795
678	DCB_int_01	960.3815	[So] let's talk about family a little bit, and not necessarily	963.3349
679	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	960.3935	[<ts>]	960.7469
680	DCB_int_01	963.7791	just your brother but like you said your families are close knit, is your f- your-	966.9698
682		967.2979	your core unit of family, are you close knit? Do you guys have traditions?	970.8036
683	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	970.9476	<ts>	971.0477
685		971.3958	Well the only family that	975.2268
687		976.5194	I'm really close with-	978.9858
689		979.5060	so my mom's family I'm not that close with.	983.3598
691		983.7572	There's not too many people on that side, most of them are old, like my-	987.7671
693		987.8951	like my mom- like my g- like, grandparent generation so they've pretty much died at this point.	992.2824
695		992.9947	And she has a sister, half sister	995.6560
697		997.7982	um,	998.6835
699		998.8627	<ts>	999.1148
701		999.9071	who	1000.4511
703		1000.7195	I know but I'm not that close with,	1003.4900
705		1003.5901	not for any real reasons just their	1005.4709
707		1005.5910	lives are very different.	1006.6595
709		1006.8156	Um,	1007.4102
711		1007.6119	<ts>	1007.6840
713		1008.3055	but the family that I'm closer to is my dad's side, and he has	1012.5955
715		1013.2290	a brother,	1014.0876
717		1014.5016	a wife- well,	1015.4540
719		1015.6221	my	1015.8462
721		1016.3944	<ts>	1016.4985
723		1017.3549	my h- my- his br- my dad's brother is married.	1020.2105
725		1020.6696	And they have two kids, two sons, my cousins.	1023.9352
727		1024.3153	So I'm closer to them.	1025.4233
729		1026.1214	<ts>	1026.1894
731		1026.4736	That's like the only like blood family, I would say my m-	1029.2148
733		1029.4149	my mom	1030.3353
735		1030.4114	has done a very good job of kind of	1032.1374
737		1032.6937	making fr- like, people from Parkersburg, West Virginia like,	1035.1668
739		1035.2588	where she off and on grew up,	1036.8516
741		1037.3050	she's still like super close to t-	1039.5020
743		1039.8462	several of those women.	1041.1828
745		1041.6390	So they're	1042.1152
747		1042.2793	like, my aunts I would say in terms of like	1045.5220
749		1046.3104	second family, I'm probably	1047.6750
751		1048.8796	<ts> as close to them	1050.4876
753		1050.8497	as	1051.7111
755		1052.5265	my	1052.8066
757		1053.1148	dad's people.	1054.0268
759		1054.6235	Put it that way, yeah.	1055.5839
760	DCB_int_01	1056.1534	I understand that, I'm very much like the adopted family cause I don't-	1060.1513
762		1060.3393	I don't have anybody here, I moved here.	1062.1225
764		1062.7417	Um, but I have a lot of adopted family that I'm very close- so I'm closer here than I	1066.8950
765	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1067.0329	Yeah.	1067.4782
766	DCB_int_01	1067.5411	you know to real family who I see like	1069.4820
768		1070.0263	once every couple [years.]	1071.8311
769	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1071.6870	[Right.]	1072.4394
770		1072.5795	So I get to see them pretty often, my f-	1074.8377
772		1075.1299	brother's	1075.5581
774		1075.9382	family.	1076.5385
776		1076.9907	They live in Maryland.	1078.7334
778		1079.2530	Uh, in terms of like the people that I'm referring to like my aunts like,	1082.3570
780		1082.6946	growing up we would all take vacations together.	1085.4158
782		1086.0013	They still- my mom and my aunts and they still take vacations together.	1089.4731
784		1090.0432	Uh, one of their daughters like, I lived with for a whi- so it's, yeah.	1095.1548
786		1095.7391	Like growing up- like even now we'll	1097.5599
788		1097.8493	just out of habit say, oh my cousin, even though we're not cousins cause that's how we were like	1102.7395
790		1102.8608	taught to refer to each other, so.	1104.6937
792		1105.8342	Uh, yeah.	1106.6266
794		1106.7946	[That's basic] background there.	1108.3040
795	DCB_int_01	1106.7986	[So l-]	1107.1068
796		1108.8888	So let's talk about	1110.0294
798		1110.1614	this	1110.5696
800		1110.7577	move that you said was	1112.2584
802		1112.4185	drastically different.	1113.4331
804		1113.5350	<clears throat>	1113.9096
806		1113.9872	Went from I guess it was	1115.2838
808		1115.5491	middle school-ish when you moved to DC	1117.7782
810		1118.1103	proper, when [you moved to the city.]	1119.7863
811	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1118.7266	[Okay.]	1119.6373
813		1119.7791	Yeah.	1120.1924
814	DCB_int_01	1120.2233	So	1120.6275
816		1120.7715	what happened- what caused y'all to move to the city, and then how was that like, the first couple years what you remember maybe school or the neighborhood.	1127.9649
817	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1128.5896	Uh, moving to DC, I think my mom's h- I think the house that she was renting-	1134.6611
819		1135.1059	So we moved into a house after my parents separated and I'm pretty sure the house that we were in	1139.0285
821		1139.2690	uh, the owner put up for sale.	1140.5256
823		1141.1219	So we moved in with my grandmom, and she lived on Sixteenth Street, she'd had that house forever, I'm pretty sure it's the house my parents grew up in.	1148.2104
825		1148.6946	My dad grew up in.	1149.7399
827		1149.9952	That was the house my dad grew up in.	1151.0197
829		1151.5571	Um,	1152.1625
831		1152.4335	so that's why we moved to DC	1153.6541
833		1154.1623	in another really busy street.	1156.4994
835		1157.1997	Like, [Sixteenth, yeah.]	1158.6416
836	DCB_int_01	1157.6212	[Sixteenth Street?]	1158.3598
837	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1158.7137	So,	1159.3563
839		1160.0263	it's like, right near Sixteenth and Military, to give you like a r- yeah, if you n- so,	1164.0561
841		1165.0498	there again wasn't much	1166.8387
843		1166.9467	neighborhood activity at that point at fourteen like if I was home, I was home. There was one of my friends from	1172.9025
845		1174.1833	high school	1175.1259
847		1175.6852	uh, lived right at	1178.2624
849		1178.5785	Sixteenth and Military so I was over her house a lot.	1181.9533
851		1182.3775	And then	1183.6013
853		1184.4345	another one of my best friends- I'm still friends with these people,	1187.3185
855		1189.1579	her fam- /h-/ her	1190.8146
857		1191.1388	family lives in the Gold Coast area like a few blocks the other way,	1194.6536
859		1195.1459	on Fourteenth, so there were at least two	1198.0952
861		1199.2770	good girlfriends that I had,	1201.6996
863		1202.2454	um,	1202.8227
865		1202.9267	in that neighborhood but it wasn't like,	1205.7520
867		1205.8480	oh, let's go meet at the- like before where it's like, oh yeah let's ride our- it's,	1210.1353
869		1210.8596	I'm coming to your house and we're gonna hang out your house or we are going somewhere, like it was, you know-	1216.0826
870	DCB_int_01	1216.3634	It wasn't just hanging on the stoop.	1217.6074
871	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1217.7412	<ts>	1217.9093
873		1218.3055	No.	1218.7188
875		1218.9418	Absolutely not and it wasn't even like I'm walking- well, did I-	1222.3874
877		1222.7555	I might've walked- did I walk to /RD-NAME-2/ house?	1225.0095
879		1226.6866	I don't think so, like I remember driving those few blo- I feel like ev-	1230.9898
881		1231.4660	either one of those houses involved a car.	1233.3109
883		1233.5750	So,	1234.5074
885		1234.5955	<laugh> whether necessary or not.	1235.7760
887		1236.1214	I think I went to one	1237.9226
889		1238.6226	hou- the house in the Gold Coast I think I went there once like walked because I didn't have a choice and the air conditioning in my house was broken.	1245.1889
891		1246.0032	So yeah, it wasn't like a neighborhood-y	1248.4518
893		1249.4300	hangout type situation.	1251.3749
895		1251.7151	Which is probably not helpful for you.	1253.2537
896	DCB_int_01	1253.7320	No, [it- it-]	1254.7537
897	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1254.1574	[Oh okay.]	1254.7334
898	DCB_int_01	1254.9378	n-	1255.1791
900		1255.7421	Don't feel like you- I'm looking for one particular thing, it [really is about]	1259.3358
901	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1258.3850	<ts>	1258.4290
903		1258.6835	[Okay good.]	1259.3542
904	DCB_int_01	1259.5905	the [stories.]	1260.4412
905	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1260.2348	[Okay.]	1260.7471
906	DCB_int_01	1260.8271	Um,	1261.3433
908		1261.4194	so tell me a little bit about	1263.3118
910		1263.6416	high school.	1264.4350
912		1264.6261	Cause you were in high school-	1265.4985
914		1265.7906	wait,	1266.0347
916		1266.2789	we missed middle school.	1267.2153
917	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1268.1169	Middle school was when I was	1269.6056
919		1269.7617	in Hyattsville	1270.8822
921		1270.9983	and that was a lot of bike [riding]	1272.7031
922	DCB_int_01	1272.4309	[That's] the- okay.	1273.2122
923	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1273.2033	with a bunch of k- there were a bunch of kids in the neighborhood around my age.	1276.9382
924		1277.5745	And like a typical	1278.9752
926		1279.5154	quiet	1280.1757
928		1280.2838	neighborhood-y,	1281.6825
930		1282.3940	it was black,	1283.1593
932		1284.4469	being teased a little for	1286.2077
934		1286.3878	the way I speak which is fine.	1287.8692
936		1288.4340	And then high school when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I also	1292.8380
938		1293.1094	moved to Sixteenth Street	1294.7662
940		1295.4865	and-	1296.6611
942		1297.0472	so it wasn't bike riding and	1299.1854
944		1300.0498	hanging out really in the neighborhood or anything like [that.]	1302.9151
945	DCB_int_01	1302.6870	[And how] big was /RD-SCHOOL-2/? Like-	1304.3598
946	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1305.2014	<yawn> So /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is K through twelfth	1308.5534
948		1309.4354	and	1310.7834
950		1311.3375	my class, which I believe was typical at least for upper school which is like high school	1316.6535
952		1317.3615	sixty [kids.]	1319.1322
953	DCB_int_01	1318.0178	[Mm-hm.]	1318.6245
954	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1319.2744	I'm not sure if the middle and l-	1321.8236
956		1321.9396	lower school class sizes were bigger or smaller.	1324.7301
958		1325.2944	Um,	1325.8851
960		1326.2749	<ts>	1326.3349
962		1326.5270	and that was a school where not	1328.2998
964		1328.4811	all of the kids, but I remember a large chunk and I don't remember if it was the majority or half	1332.4664
966		1333.2833	or- or	1333.7996
968		1334.1757	slightly less than, a lot of them had gone from at least the middle to the upper if not the lower to the middle to the upper but at least the middle.	1341.6451
970		1342.1018	So there were a lot of kids who	1344.3349
972		1345.7435	already knew each other by the time I got there.	1347.7977
974		1348.3460	Um,	1348.9060
976		1350.7711	so that was probably a big shift for me, it was a big shift for me.	1355.7825
978		1356.2749	Because I was used to growing up at least at school with it being [mixed.]	1360.9342
979	DCB_int_01	1360.8182	[Mm-hm.]	1361.2624
980	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1361.3824	And in a different	1362.3069
982		1362.9872	socio-economi- being surrounded by kids who were middle class like	1366.8718
984		1367.7146	closer to what my parents were	1370.1679
986		1370.3330	or on the same page, and then a lot of the kids there, it was mostly white and a lot of them had a lot of money.	1376.4450
988		1377.1814	My parents are educated but	1378.6301
990		1379.6185	they're, you know, are not writing checks for fifteen thousand dollars a year to go to anybody's high school, so.	1385.3424
992		1386.3709	It was a little different. <laugh>	1387.8396
994		1388.2330	And it was only six of us	1389.4896
996		1389.6136	versus like, half.	1390.8656
997	DCB_int_01	1392.2548	Did you [feel like]	1393.7755
998	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1392.6030	[If that makes sense. Ooh], sorry.	1394.1390
999		1394.4879	Salad in my teeth.	1395.3145
1000	DCB_int_01	1395.3735	Uh-huh.	1395.7762
1002		1395.9898	Do you feel like	1397.2904
1004		1397.8787	you had a good experience though? Did you enjoy your high school experience?	1401.9098
1006		1402.0138	Or not.	1402.6101
1008		1403.0863	The little side eye kind of [made me-]	1404.5790
1009	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1404.3029	[Uh],	1405.6315
1010		1405.8328	I appreciated	1406.7235
1012		1407.1214	it more after I left.	1409.2664
1013	DCB_int_01	1409.3624	Mm.	1409.6346
1014	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1409.7666	I feel like I was-	1411.7559
1016		1412.3690	I liked-	1413.3335
1018		1413.4375	when I was t-	1414.2659
1020		1414.3900	that was my first choice so when I was looking at schools	1417.9208
1022		1418.5251	and went to a bunch of different schools-	1421.4382
1024		1422.9031	I had been at private school my whole life with the exception- I forgot there was	1426.4700
1026		1426.9743	a month maybe that I was at public school, Hyattsville Middle,	1430.4078
1028		1430.4971	cause that's- I was begging my mom to put me in public school and she had done some volunteer work with	1434.8471
1030		1435.4874	Hyattsville Middle, so I really wanted to go, and then I got there and I was totally overwhelmed like,	1440.7511
1032		1441.2113	getting lost in the- I mean this sounds terrible but it's true. Getting lost like trying to find my class.	1446.1371
1034		1446.6710	Because my mom had done volunteer work they had put me in these higher level math class and I'm sitting there like I have no clue what's going on.	1452.9371
1036		1453.3353	It was- I'm used to s- you know,	1455.4936
1038		1456.0818	if you're stuck, like I'm used to small class sizes, people being able to work with you, I didn't have access to any of that.	1460.6132
1040		1461.1654	And it was just like, okay well thank you so much for letting my have my way, can I go back? So I went right back to /RD-SCHOOL-4/.	1466.2330
1042		1466.6612	That was seventh grade.	1467.6136
1044		1468.0698	So at that point	1469.0645
1046		1469.6946	when I went to high school I was	1471.3879
1048		1472.8173	pretty much all private school and I'd had enough of my- a public school experience to know that	1477.2873
1050		1477.6795	I- I-	1478.2035
1052		1478.4171	I got lost, so I just said, you know let's	1480.9502
1054		1481.3144	keep it to what I know.	1482.1828
1056		1482.7991	And uh, I feel like I might've looked at one public school and I can't remember which one it is.	1487.7198
1058		1488.3229	But it was mostly privates but	1489.7315
1060		1490.0849	t- uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was my top choice, I was on the waitlist.	1494.0101
1062		1494.9392	I got in	1496.6892
1064		1496.8012	and I l- I really was excited.	1498.9022
1066		1499.6746	I liked how open the school looked, there's like bright	1503.9018
1068		1504.1059	sun roof atriums, small classes, things that I had known from that	1509.0574
1070		1509.2294	one	1509.7457
1072		1510.2619	quick public school experience that	1512.2188
1074		1513.0152	I know I like to have	1514.6432
1076		1514.7372	just to be able to learn.	1515.8817
1078		1516.0098	So um,	1517.2824
1080		1517.6466	<ts>	1517.8266
1082		1520.0409	I was excited about that, the teachers seemed nice	1523.7226
1084		1524.2108	and when I started	1525.9036
1086		1526.0797	I can't say they weren't nice, I just-	1528.7261
1088		1529.1223	I don't think I was prepared for	1531.9862
1090		1532.9493	what it was like to shift from being	1535.9667
1092		1536.1788	such a minority,	1537.7488
1094		1538.3330	like going from like fifty fifty,	1540.5060
1095	DCB_int_01	1540.4700	Mm.	1540.7181
1096	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1540.9462	being around kids who you'd kind of grown up with from like	1543.5634
1098		1543.6915	being ten years old to like fourteen.	1546.0978
1100		1547.8707	You know where	1548.5133
1102		1548.7031	everyone's kind of in the same page to like	1551.4375
1104		1553.8747	white, wealthier children.	1556.0160
1106		1556.5932	And it wasn't that anyone was mean.	1558.8102
1108		1559.2704	And then I just remember you know I'm still	1561.8850
1110		1562.4251	in these activities I'm still	1564.0024
1112		1564.4540	going to my church, I'm- <ts>	1566.6687
1114		1567.4834	I wasn't doing dance anymore but	1570.4780
1116		1570.6941	I had switched to a black swim team I feel like was like my main	1574.9761
1118		1575.7697	activity	1576.5821
1120		1576.7662	that point, I was terrible at that.	1578.3509
1122		1578.8671	[Um, oh yeah I was t-]	1580.3118
1123	DCB_int_01	1579.3914	[<laugh>]	1580.3300
1124	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1580.5639	that's a story. Um,	1582.2899
1126		1582.7301	an embarrassing one.	1583.4305
1128		1583.8827	And- but I mean I still had all these friends so I was little like-	1588.1171
1130		1589.1623	a little jealous I guess of	1590.9472
1132		1591.4194	you know them kind of going to school and	1594.5781
1134		1595.9347	being part of an experience of, you know, community and	1600.7531
1136		1601.6946	you didn't really have that at /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	1603.4435
1138		1603.6075	But it wasn't that it was an unpleasant atmosphere or anything like that	1606.6518
1140		1606.7702	and	1607.1475
1142		1607.3704	I know I got a good education, I recognized that when I was there but it was just kind of a-	1611.0614
1144		1611.4976	in that sense it was kind of a drag.	1613.2024
1145	DCB_int_01	1613.4505	Hm.	1613.8066
1146	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1614.4149	So like,	1615.3469
1148		1616.9133	I made friends with this one black girl,	1619.0079
1150		1621.0792	and then um, that didn't really work out.	1624.2139
1152		1624.4580	Um,	1625.2180
1154		1625.7466	<ts>	1625.8186
1156		1625.8867	she had some issues, I made friends with another one who I'm still friends with to this day so that was nice.	1629.9978
1158		1630.6141	And there were a couple like, non-black kids that I am actually still friends with	1635.0143
1160		1635.6416	but I just missed- I just missed being around a mixed environment.	1640.0549
1162		1640.9733	Um,	1641.5560
1164		1642.1819	so it wasn't anything wrong with the school, it was nothing they did it was just like	1645.5594
1166		1645.9997	I'm not used to feeling	1647.9796
1168		1648.9382	kind of	1649.4705
1170		1649.7626	outsider-ish.	1651.1232
1171	DCB_int_01	1651.2193	Right.	1651.5206
1172	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1651.6355	But it was cool.	1652.3461
1173	DCB_int_01	1652.7732	So let me ask you two questions based on what you were just saying.	1656.0824
1175		1656.5270	One- the second one,	1657.6555
1177		1658.2530	which I'll ask, but we can put it on the back burner.	1660.4420
1178	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1660.9102	[Mm-hm.]	1661.2064
1179	DCB_int_01	1661.0343	[Swimming], I wanna hear about that.	1662.6510
1180		1663.0952	[Um-]	1663.6219
1181	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1663.2553	[Oh yeah] cause you want stories.	1664.2846
1182		1664.6332	Well-	1665.0654
1183	DCB_int_01	1665.1854	But just because you said it was funny.	1666.7221
1184	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1666.8262	well,	1667.4195
1186		1667.5465	it wa- mm <ts> go ahead, alright.	1669.8476
1188		1670.0157	We can put that [one on the back burner.]	1671.5056
1189	DCB_int_01	1670.5011	[<laugh>]	1671.2415
1190		1671.6296	And then the other one is church, cause I know that's a big part.	1675.1393
1191	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1675.1513	Yeah.	1675.5074
1192	DCB_int_01	1675.5474	And like you just- you've	1676.6480
1194		1676.8733	said over and over that that's been a big part of your	1678.9863
1196		1679.3464	activities, so [what like-] what did your church mean to you	1682.5199
1197	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1680.4669	[Yeah.]	1680.8271
1198	DCB_int_01	1682.9213	um, to your family?	1684.5140
1199	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1684.5340	Sure.	1684.9022
1201		1685.8627	So I went to- well there was w-	1690.8782
1203		1691.3424	When I was a kid,	1692.2797
1205		1692.7071	my parents were together, it was like my grandma wanted to go to- my dad's mom	1696.6101
1207		1696.9022	was a member of	1698.0102
1209		1698.3229	a church	1699.0469
1211		1699.6835	All Souls,	1700.4319
1213		1700.7892	and I feel like that was mixed.	1702.9142
1215		1703.4665	And then	1704.4469
1217		1705.2673	<ts> my best girlfriend now that's how we became friends, we went to dance school together.	1711.6345
1219		1712.3290	The black dance school.	1713.5976
1221		1714.1339	And sleepover on a Saturday had me with her family on Sunday	1719.9498
1223		1720.5981	to- at this black church, People's	1723.2487
1225		1723.4994	Congregational.	1724.4994
1227		1725.4375	Um,	1726.0175
1229		1726.2019	and uh,	1727.3824
1231		1727.5705	I just fell in love with it mainly because I feel like at	1730.9572
1233		1731.2334	All Souls there weren't as many-	1733.2944
1235		1733.7786	like the- the kid program it existed but it wasn't	1736.5946
1237		1738.0578	that	1738.3325
1239		1738.5901	big a deal.	1739.2744
1241		1739.5905	And then when I went to Sunday school with my friend	1743.0614
1243		1743.4936	it was just	1745.1343
1245		1747.0392	a bunch of kids my age, they were engaged in what was going on so it was nice to like-	1752.8385
1247		1753.3754	It felt like they had a bigger sense of- a stronger sense of community as much as I could feel that, I c- I'm sure I couldn't articulate that when I was in like third grade or whatever but I felt that.	1763.1263
1249		1763.6426	And I liked it and I	1765.1553
1251		1765.5154	like	1765.8288
1253		1766.1730	told my mom how much I liked it and	1767.9223
1255		1768.4220	she was like, alright, I'll give it a shot, and she still goes there to this day, yeah.	1773.2625
1257		1774.0418	And-	1774.8325
1259		1775.2944	So I'm really good friends still with	1777.5034
1261		1778.1557	my friend who introduced me to the church who I went to dance school with and now m- her mother and my mother are really close now too so our families have become very close.	1785.6611
1263		1786.3300	Um,	1786.9823
1265		1787.7586	but I would say that that-	1788.5510
1267		1788.7831	that bond was between dance and mainly church.	1792.7822
1269		1793.3784	Cause all- both our families continue to attend that church	1796.0797
1271		1796.4771	beyond our time at the dance school.	1798.9462
1273		1799.6986	[If that makes sense.]	1800.6746
1274	DCB_int_01	1799.7826	[Are you actively] involved in church now like-	1802.6678
1275	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1802.6892	No.	1802.9945
1277		1803.5936	but growing up- so to	1804.9262
1279		1805.0543	t- I guess	1805.5065
1281		1806.2829	talk more about that like,	1807.5074
1283		1807.9596	so I liked the k- the- the youth aspect of it.	1811.8106
1285		1812.6310	<ts>	1812.6990
1287		1812.8751	Cause they had class every Sunday, they had a youth usher program,	1817.7226
1289		1818.0948	I could tell the kids were pretty close.	1820.3788
1291		1820.9293	Um,	1821.5853
1293		1821.7577	<ts> I got confirmed there, I'm still friends with those people who I was confirmed with in like sixth grade.	1827.9618
1295		1828.6741	It was just very	1830.3909
1297		1830.4910	close knit,	1831.4594
1299		1831.5554	the people there. Um,	1833.3255
1301		1835.5985	it was a lot of people-	1837.3594
1303		1838.2158	How do I do this? There were-	1839.9298
1305		1840.8022	I hate how I sound sometimes but I'm trying to give you the real.	1843.6004
1307		1844.0449	Uh, it was a lot of	1845.7817
1309		1846.5861	professional	1847.9027
1311		1848.2789	um, black families there.	1850.4719
1313		1851.1254	So it was just very rela- it mean it was just very relatable to my life it was like a bunch of kids who were kind of in the s- a lot of them were	1856.7985
1315		1857.0814	at places like Maret or uh,	1859.6546
1317		1860.0668	<ts>	1860.9352
1319		1861.2113	what do you call it?	1861.8556
1321		1862.0557	Uh, NCS things like that, and there were also kids who were in public school so I mean you had all of that.	1866.4029
1322	DCB_int_01	1866.3509	Mm-hm.	1866.6589
1323	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1867.0232	Just a bunch of middle class black families so that was nice.	1870.4340
1325		1870.9342	Um, they'd have	1872.6150
1327		1873.6847	plays and you know the typical church stuff.	1876.8607
1329		1877.5625	Um,	1878.1468
1331		1880.1877	there was a Christmas program that	1882.3731
1333		1882.9462	you know we still go to on- you know up	1885.1593
1335		1885.2713	to now like, it was just that very close thing, like you knew you were gonna get the same formula every Sunday. Our family sat in the balcony, you knew what you were gonna g- like, you just always knew what you were gonna get.	1896.2869
1337		1896.9312	Um, and it was- I liked that.	1898.9898
1339		1899.6616	And so like, my mom became involved, I was involved up until the point where I was like, listen I'm not doing these	1906.5340
1341		1906.6621	plays anymore like, I'm old.	1908.0548
1343		1908.1668	Like,	1908.3281
1345		1909.1393	I'm doing this.	1909.9099
1347		1910.5171	I'm too old for thi- yeah I'm like,	1911.7611
1349		1912.4660	fourteen and she's-	1913.6420
1351		1913.7986	no I'm not do- Mom, no.	1915.5280
1353		1915.8836	<laugh>	1916.2276
1355		1916.6732	Like I'll still go to whatever but	1918.0698
1357		1918.5901	this part of-	1919.2224
1359		1919.2864	this part of the	1919.8867
1361		1920.0708	chapter is-	1920.7191
1363		1920.8431	is closed.	1921.3954
1365		1921.9556	Um,	1922.6892
1367		1922.7652	so it was like that.	1923.7092
1369		1924.0098	Yeah.	1924.3525
1371		1925.4385	And like so,	1926.0588
1373		1926.6830	/though/ g- so, when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I still have all these [relationships] like,	1931.8907
1374	DCB_int_01	1930.9022	[Right.]	1931.2595
1375	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1932.5270	most of- so there were two black kids who were at my middle school	1937.3691
1377		1938.0387	who also went to People's with me.	1940.0587
1379		1940.2850	It was a guy and a girl.	1941.4135
1381		1941.8377	So I maintained that friendship but most of the other kids I feel like from middle school I didn't really keep in touch with past middle school except for them who were still at my church.	1950.1948
1383		1950.7711	And	1951.9076
1385		1952.6292	those relationships were just really close so a lot of my	1955.6932
1387		1956.6590	social weekend time throughout high school was hanging out with those people versus	1963.0891
1389		1963.3994	the people that I had met at /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	1965.2465
1390	DCB_int_01	1965.4095	Right.	1965.7495
1391	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	1966.1339	Outside of like-	1967.7066
1393		1969.5594	yeah, kind of outside of like	1971.8217
1395		1972.1379	the	1972.6261
1397		1972.7782	three	1973.6906
1399		1974.0988	maybe n- that's probably a lie, th- outside maybe like the f-	1976.3468
1401		1976.4971	the six or seven	1978.2979
1403		1979.2064	pretty much black kids	1980.7591
1405		1981.3714	um,	1982.0100
1407		1982.8893	not the only black kids at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ but there were about six or seven black kids at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ that I would consistently would hang out with like	1989.4856
1409		1989.9738	on weekends after school.	1992.1788
1411		1993.1312	And also alternatively	1995.7118
1413		1996.6501	kids that I had grown up with at church.	1998.6514
1415		1999.2153	[So I] always	2000.4359
1416	DCB_int_01	1999.2433	[Mm.]	1999.4980
1417	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2000.5199	was kind of drawn to that which is w- another reason why I always felt like a little	2004.7111
1419		2005.6755	isolated at	2006.5211
1421		2006.6892	/RD-SCHOOL-2/, which I'm sure is as much my- it's-	2008.6461
1423		2008.8662	it's	2009.1583
1425		2009.7266	in large part my fault.	2010.9272
1427		2012.2850	I mean I could've made more of an effort but	2014.0061
1429		2014.5300	you know.	2014.8954
1431		2016.1548	<ts> I like what I like.	2017.0335
1432	DCB_int_01	2018.1117	So tell [me about the-]	2018.9853
1433	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2018.4731	[I sound] racist.	2019.7417
1434	DCB_int_01	2021.2304	No you don't.	2022.1901
1435	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2022.3309	[A little bit. I sound a] little racist.	2023.6675
1436	DCB_int_01	2022.3309	[You really don't.]	2023.0752
1437	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2023.9756	And I don't even- I don't even mean like- cause I said I'm- I-	2026.5661
1439		2026.6621	there are other people and even in college that kind of shifted a little bit.	2029.6635
1441		2030.0997	But	2030.5651
1443		2031.2254	I just missed that a lot, that's what I'm used to like, that was my life. I go to a black church, I had gone to like a mixed elementary and middle	2039.0345
1445		2040.5790	I ended up at this high school where it was just affluent and white and it was just- it was different, it was even different from like	2047.7145
1447		2049.7617	the socio and ec- economic	2051.0823
1449		2051.5985	level-	2052.4199
1451		2052.6950	class level of	2054.0557
1453		2054.5611	white people that I had been exposed to up in that point so it was just a little foreign to me I didn't really- yeah, it took a while for me to kind of like, adjust to that.	2062.4220
1455		2064.5550	That's the best way I can explain it.	2065.9316
1457		2066.2758	Hm.	2066.5199
1458	DCB_int_01	2067.4495	So-	2068.2775
1459	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2068.2539	Hope I don't come off racist.	2069.6746
1460	DCB_int_01	2070.0027	uh-	2070.2829
1462		2074.3139	Um,	2074.9622
1464		2075.6706	so I'm gonna talk about going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ in a moment but [let me- let's] go back to the swim te- cause I told you I was gonna [come back to it, mm-hm.]	2081.9027
1465	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2078.5331	[Okay.]	2079.0931
1467		2080.7542	[Oh yeah.]	2081.9027
1468		2081.9587	No that I was just terrible at it like-	2084.3440
1470		2084.8533	so when I tried out for the team-	2087.2506
1472		2088.6310	I've always been like an overweight child and adult.	2092.8171
1474		2093.1463	So,	2094.1077
1476		2095.4234	I don't really enjoy activities that make me out of breath, I never enjoyed exercise. Dance even was like, obnoxious except for tap, I liked tap I actually did well in that.	2105.1743
1478		2105.2904	I got a scholarship that was exciting.	2107.0912
1480		2107.2673	<ts>	2107.3794
1482		2107.8076	For one	2108.3558
1484		2108.4691	year.	2108.7732
1486		2109.2054	Um,	2109.8857
1488		2110.7181	Swimming was not like that,	2111.9439
1490		2112.1388	swimming was awful.	2113.1673
1492		2113.4434	So swimming was-	2114.9407
1494		2116.0458	another one of my friends, I'm not really friends with her anymore but	2119.2433
1496		2119.4754	um, another one of my friends who I had grown up with,	2121.9451
1498		2122.5340	she was on the swim team, it was an all black team, PG County.	2126.6560
1500		2127.2294	And I'm at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ at this point and	2130.1948
1502		2130.5150	there's no more dance, I'm looking for something and she went from like, no lie-	2135.4345
1504		2135.6706	Well how old were we? We were like fourteen, so	2137.5434
1506		2137.7475	she's tall.	2138.2798
1508		2138.7052	She went from over two hundred pounds to like	2142.0267
1510		2142.9151	one fifty, like she had	2144.5359
1512		2144.8933	went cr- she	2145.8017
1514		2146.2659	metamorphosized	2147.5105
1516		2147.9587	and I'm looking like,	2148.8911
1518		2149.4194	that's what I'm gonna do, so, and it's a black activity, so I did that.	2153.8234
1520		2154.2749	And um,	2155.6995
1522		2155.9328	<ts>	2156.0289
1524		2157.2455	I did lose weight but not like her.	2159.1355
1526		2159.7306	And	2160.8671
1528		2161.5274	I remember when I tried out	2162.9238
1530		2163.4696	or they went- they wanted- not try out, they assessed me to see where I was.	2167.5970
1532		2168.0197	And I got out of the pool after doing like	2170.1099
1534		2170.5260	four laps or something like I almost vomited.	2173.3112
1536		2173.6755	I didn't even know that s- I didn't- I had swam my whole life like, for fun, recreationally, but I didn't even know that swimming could make you out of breath until	2180.5359
1538		2180.8293	that one- for that first time.	2182.9892
1540		2183.4385	And I was so slow that for	2186.8000
1542		2187.3215	a very long time	2188.8542
1544		2188.9783	on that team I was swimming with the little kids in practice.	2193.1691
1546		2194.8142	until they just said, /RD-NAME-3/ that's enough.	2197.1913
1548		2197.7315	And I was like, well I don't know what you want me to do.	2199.0534
1550		2199.7577	And then they gave me fins	2201.9067
1552		2202.0347	which, for those who don't know, propels you.	2204.8001
1554		2205.2334	And everyone else would you know, do practice without fins and	2208.9151
1556		2209.1953	when I was with my age group and I would practice with fins so that I could keep up.	2213.8865
1558		2214.4549	<ts>	2214.5230
1560		2215.1553	And then, there would- we'd also like	2217.4495
1562		2218.3540	<ts>	2218.4460
1564		2218.7381	always kind of feel bad for people at a swim meet	2221.6755
1566		2222.1197	where they were so slow that like, everyone else would be done and they'd get like the pity clap.	2227.4450
1568		2228.7652	See I just feel like the whole set up was wrong like maybe I just shouldn't have done it because	2233.0491
1570		2234.3438	the fact that I had to swim with these children	2237.1558
1572		2237.5465	and then they put me in fins to keep up with my age group.	2240.4399
1574		2240.9413	So then they put me in these competitions where you know I'm clearly not gonna-	2244.5430
1576		2246.4919	So I remember I went to this one meet like went all the way to Atlanta	2250.4109
1578		2251.1312	and one of these chicks that I was in the m-	2253.4015
1580		2253.5496	in the	2254.3179
1582		2254.4140	heat with	2255.3864
1584		2255.7106	her brother- these were black people too,	2257.4274
1586		2257.6595	her brother was	2259.1894
1588		2259.5376	in the Olympics, I had no business.	2262.8231
1590		2264.0517	And so like,	2265.7417
1592		2266.0818	the team had like split up cause there was some kind of coup, I don't even remember all this drama but there was some kind of drama.	2271.9298
1594		2272.3620	And the team had split in half and I remember	2274.2628
1596		2274.6430	the one coach	2275.7715
1598		2276.0529	who used to be with the team that I had stayed with, he wasn't even	2279.4105
1600		2279.4985	part of my team anymore, I didn't have any beef with him,	2281.2313
1602		2281.5114	like he was on the sideline like encouraging me during this	2285.0943
1604		2285.7106	heat that I- that I- this competition cause it was so bad and he felt so bad for me. I mean he mighta done it anyway but	2291.0758
1606		2291.3384	he was trying to get me just up and down, cause I was like about to quit while I was swimming and	2295.7771
1608		2296.1339	I remember like- so you go up and back and up and back.	2299.0657
1610		2299.6875	Like my last up and back	2301.6857
1612		2302.1179	like I still had one more lap to go up and back and people were already finished and standing	2307.7337
1614		2308.4380	in the water, waiting for me to go up	2312.1517
1616		2312.7092	and back.	2313.5839
1618		2314.7021	Humiliated.	2315.5968
1620		2315.8947	Jumped out of the water, all kinds of pity clap, I just jumped out of the water, like ran to the bathroom, my mom's like, oh you're f-	2321.9223
1622		2322.2628	Don't do this. Like I'm always been a realistic, don't- don't do this. It was terrible.	2326.9582
1624		2328.3229	It was terr- what are you talking about?	2330.2117
1626		2331.0254	I was so pissed. I feel like	2332.5340
1628		2332.9102	I was also pissed because	2333.9987
1630		2334.5350	you know I had had enough experiences swimming that I was like,	2337.8398
1632		2338.9542	I could at least kind of keep up but at that point I knew at that meet that I was way out of my league and I feel like	2345.3424
1634		2345.6946	part of y'all's job as	2347.7412
1636		2348.1717	adults	2349.1214
1638		2350.0498	let alone coaches or whatever is to like	2352.7271
1640		2353.2233	recognize when people just don't need to, you know.	2356.3331
1642		2357.0983	Cause I would've been fine with that.	2358.3076
1644		2359.2673	<ts>	2359.3193
1646		2359.3754	I was not an over-achiever when it came to swimming, that was just supposed to be something social	2363.4985
1648		2364.2348	and exercise.	2366.2174
1650		2366.4931	Not	2367.2214
1652		2368.1419	scar me and humiliate w-	2370.1788
1654		2370.3309	humiliate me and have people literally stand there waiting for me to f- it was- it was awful. That was it, that- that was my swimming story.	2376.6750
1656		2378.1877	Yeah.	2378.4757
1657	DCB_int_01	2378.4771	I'm sorry that it was embarrassing but it was a great story.	2381.3646
1658	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2381.3184	Yeah.	2381.9571
1659		2382.0467	It was-	2382.6550
1661		2382.7911	<ts> it w- it is- it's a great story now, at the time it was	2385.2054
1663		2386.0218	awful.	2386.3005
1665		2387.0583	And I did get to lose some weight so that was- that was nice. I didn't	2389.7435
1667		2390.0277	get as slim as she did.	2391.1534
1669		2392.1899	So, that's okay though.	2393.3539
1671		2393.6386	Yeah.	2393.8827
1673		2393.9547	It served it's purpose.	2395.2793
1674	DCB_int_01	2397.6416	Thank you for that.	2398.2099
1675	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2398.1779	<ts> No [problem.]	2399.3045
1676	DCB_int_01	2398.6181	[That was-] no, that was-	2399.9847
1677	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2400.2148	<ts> I'm glad I'm h- I can always entertain.	2402.3428
1678	DCB_int_01	2404.7822	So,	2405.1728
1680		2406.1548	<exhales> now let's go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/.	2408.4104
1682		2409.2054	Uh,	2409.8988
1684		2410.9302	now that we've graduated from high school, got over the swimming thing.	2414.2622
1685	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2414.4571	[Mm-hm.]	2414.9424
1686	DCB_int_01	2414.4571	[So I don't] think you went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ with a swimming scholarship	2417.3184
1687	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2417.4406	<ts> [Absolutely not.] No no no, that was literally just for-	2421.1581
1688	DCB_int_01	2417.4579	[from the sounds of it.]	2418.5382
1689	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2422.5121	that was the purpose it served like, social,	2425.1295
1691		2426.4815	black	2427.5526
1693		2427.8770	exercise.	2429.2853
1694	DCB_int_01	2430.3173	So how do we end up at /RD-SCHOOL-3/?	2431.9752
1695	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2432.1512	<ts>	2432.2202
1697		2432.6586	Because I'd wanted to go there since I knew what New York- I'd always wanted to live in New York.	2436.4746
1699		2437.2493	And	2438.2503
1701		2438.4032	I remember in seventh grade I like went to visit the school, so not like on an official like,	2442.4832
1703		2442.8765	that sounds crazy but	2444.1985
1705		2444.5954	my godsister, who I'm still close with to this day, she lived in New Jersey	2448.4088
1707		2449.0733	and	2450.0062
1709		2450.0994	I would visit her and on one of those trips when I was in like, middle school	2453.7007
1711		2454.5935	I went to	2455.6668
1713		2455.8440	New Jersey and she	2457.1556
1715		2457.6043	took me to /RD-SCHOOL-3/'s campus and I was just like,	2460.7453
1717		2461.7843	this is it.	2462.7300
1719		2463.2937	Um,	2463.9391
1721		2464.2256	but I always knew I wanted to move to New York, I just /didn't/-	2466.6102
1723		2466.8558	like growing up-	2467.9051
1725		2470.4500	I didn't travel a whole lot	2472.1655
1727		2472.4692	like growing up but I	2473.6600
1729		2474.0614	traveled enough like	2476.0908
1731		2476.6951	parents kept me	2477.3854
1733		2477.8410	pretty exposed like not much internat- not-	2479.8095
1735		2480.1477	huh.	2480.5516
1737		2480.9278	I guess Aruba was the only international traveling I had done	2483.2680
1739		2483.3819	to that point but enough around the country to kn-	2486.5264
1741		2486.9830	know that I really liked New York, I felt like there was nothing else like it,	2490.2138
1743		2490.3553	and I had wanted do that since I was- I remember my first trip to New York with my parents	2494.5604
1745		2494.8607	in like f-	2495.3819
1747		2495.5683	second grade maybe at like Christmas time and I was just like, this is it.	2498.7404
1749		2499.6734	And so in seventh grade	2501.5925
1751		2502.5417	I knew for sure like, okay /RD-SCHOOL-3/ is it.	2504.5704
1753		2505.3972	And I went to other schools in that area	2508.3795
1755		2508.4761	and always liked NYU, I didn't like Columbia, not that I would've gotten in.	2511.8653
1757		2512.5363	I didn't like Barnard, not that I would've gotten in.	2514.5210
1759		2515.3943	And I really liked /RD-SCHOOL-3/.	2517.4110
1761		2517.5249	Fordham was cool,	2518.3361
1763		2518.4845	but I really liked /RD-SCHOOL-3/.	2519.5994
1765		2519.8652	So, that's how I ended up there.	2521.3080
1767		2522.2192	Um,	2522.7552
1769		2523.6734	I didn't get into my first choice program though.	2525.8827
1771		2526.2725	But that's okay, I eventually got there.	2528.0777
1772	DCB_int_01	2528.6724	What was your first choice?	2529.5940
1773	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2530.2153	<ts>	2530.3085
1775		2530.5673	Well,	2530.9874
1777		2532.0895	I	2532.3642
1779		2532.5521	applied for the communications program.	2535.2105
1781		2537.2715	Oh I forgot in terms of my education, hm,	2539.4503
1783		2539.8154	I- I also did	2541.0176
1785		2541.2523	a summer between	2542.7986
1787		2544.5451	<ts>	2544.6073
1789		2545.5047	eleve-	2546.1709
1791		2546.3514	yeah.	2546.6896
1793		2546.9244	So my summer between eleventh and twelfth grade I went to Syracuse.	2550.0861
1794	DCB_int_01	2550.1240	Mm.	2550.3814
1795	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2550.4589	I knew in high school that I wanted to major in communications so	2554.0291
1797		2554.7848	they had a communications high school- communications program where you could earn college credit so I did that for that summer going into my twelfth grade and I wanted it to-	2562.3355
1799		2562.5866	I wanted something to put on my like, application to college.	2565.9219
1801		2566.4500	So I did that	2567.3509
1803		2567.4924	and-	2568.4485
1805		2568.8006	so I knew I either wanted to go to Syracuse or NYU, I really wanted to go to NYU,	2573.3185
1807		2574.1344	that w- I- I did early decision.	2575.9011
1809		2577.2626	And Syracuse was my second choice cause Syracuse had the number one communications school I remember that.	2581.3080
1811		2581.7946	Um,	2582.2986
1813		2582.4953	so I like applied for that but	2584.2084
1815		2585.2094	they put me in general studies program which was dubbed generally stupid people because it was the program that they put you in for two years	2594.4263
1817		2595.0762	um,	2595.6362
1819		2595.9875	<ts> when you've applied for	2597.6753
1821		2598.9870	anything else	2600.2227
1823		2600.3272	in the university	2601.5871
1825		2601.8805	but they think you need a little	2603.2845
1827		2603.5200	extra something.	2604.6452
1829		2605.1285	Which I always thought was	2607.0269
1831		2607.2212	stupid because	2608.9919
1833		2609.3750	my friends who got into like college of arts and sciences, what they applied for, did not have as much homework as I did so they always kind of laughed at me about how like	2617.5634
1835		2618.3376	I was in this kind of	2619.5322
1837		2619.7010	almost secondary	2621.2023
1839		2621.8134	situation	2622.8241
1841		2623.3080	even though I had a lot more work.	2625.3731
1843		2625.7113	And it didn't matter because you did	2627.5166
1845		2628.6660	two years	2630.0673
1847		2630.1823	um,	2630.7596
1849		2631.5595	<ts>	2631.6527
1851		2632.2118	in uh-	2633.0195
1853		2634.5797	like taking	2635.3250
1855		2635.5220	the basic like	2636.7266
1857		2636.8001	col- uh,	2637.7389
1859		2637.8874	what do you call that?	2638.5190
1861		2640.5037	Like arts and sciences courses that	2642.7508
1863		2642.8864	you would take	2644.1946
1865		2644.3292	in other programs and then you	2646.3563
1867		2646.8247	have to reapply for your major so I reapplied for communications and did that.	2650.2145
1869		2651.4026	Um,	2651.7582
1871		2652.5210	<ts> so that's it.	2653.0767
1872	DCB_int_01	2653.1872	Did you graduate	2653.8645
1873	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2654.1339	[Mm-hm.]	2654.4101
1874	DCB_int_01	2654.2064	[as a] communications major?	2655.2799
1875	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2655.3040	Mm-hm.	2655.5698
1876	DCB_int_01	2655.8080	Oh okay.	2656.3493
1877	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2656.4776	Yeah.	2656.7883
1878	DCB_int_01	2657.2232	Um,	2657.9005
1880		2658.2863	were you involved in anything in college like	2660.3272
1882		2660.4618	majorly?	2661.1246
1884		2661.6250	Besides your academics.	2662.6184
1885	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2663.1990	Yeah.	2663.7375
1887		2663.8168	Well I did	2664.6383
1889		2664.8593	sort of. N-	2665.5737
1891		2665.6497	uh- uh not majorly, I'd- I was part of the gospel choir,	2668.7998
1893		2669.7720	I really missed singing.	2671.3390
1895		2672.2651	<ts>	2672.3169
1897		2672.4032	I'd done singing in the	2674.0485
1899		2674.7261	high school choir- well I guess that wasn't choir, what do you call that? Maybe chorus? I feel like choir has somewhat of a religious thing, maybe not.	2680.8159
1901		2681.1507	I don't- I'm not really sure but whatever the singing thing was in high school I did that, I wanted to keep doing it so I did it	2686.2774
1903		2687.1852	for the gospel choir	2688.4140
1905		2689.2907	um, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/.	2690.6241
1907		2691.1349	And I feel like there was some kind of diversity	2693.6721
1909		2694.2621	similar to like	2695.7713
1911		2696.3272	black student something, that I went to meetings to	2699.3440
1913		2699.4751	very occasionally.	2700.6314
1915		2701.4771	I was not very involved.	2702.7473
1917		2703.3834	Um,	2703.9701
1919		2705.1231	<ts>	2705.1921
1921		2705.2749	and I did some internships	2707.3229
1923		2708.5033	and I flirted with the idea of going to film school when I was there.	2713.1959
1925		2713.3735	When I had to redeclare my major again-	2715.1418
1927		2715.8252	not redeclare but when I had to apply for my major after	2718.8247
1929		2718.9904	general studies I	2719.8119
1931		2720.3652	kind of flip flopped between do I wanna	2722.1566
1933		2722.4569	do communications, stick with that or do I wanna go to film school cause they have a really good film school.	2726.0328
1935		2726.9830	But I was a little too intimidated so I went- I stayed with communications.	2730.5337
1936	DCB_int_01	2731.1043	And so then how did you get to law school? Did you go to law school right after?	2734.4949
1937	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2734.8228	No, law school was a disaster. So I went to-	2738.0397
1939		2738.1684	I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/	2739.8287
1941		2740.4224	and moved back home	2741.5235
1943		2741.9411	and	2743.1998
1945		2743.8751	worked for-	2745.1867
1947		2746.2325	<ts>	2746.3154
1949		2746.9160	so I graduated in two thousand- I worked at Howard for a second.	2749.6320
1951		2751.3524	And then-	2752.5432
1953		2753.1921	maybe like six months.	2754.1588
1955		2756.1425	Is that right? (whispered)	2756.5574
1957		2756.9313	And then from there I	2758.9661
1959		2759.3474	star- I did	2760.0247
1961		2760.2034	like	2760.4416
1963		2760.6660	temp work, one of the temp	2762.0949
1965		2762.2054	to- to hire jobs was at American Institute of Architects,	2765.0187
1967		2765.5476	so I worked there as an admin assistant. That was kind of just by	2768.9803
1969		2769.1315	chance.	2770.1566
1971		2771.0195	And	2772.2483
1973		2773.4046	it's not-	2773.7766
1975		2774.5688	not her fault, I was grown up I made my own decisions but you know,	2777.7685
1977		2778.3864	you need to go get a graduate degree, you need to get a graduate degree before you get married and have a family which I still don't have, so whatever. The point is	2785.4046
1979		2786.1063	I was told this is what I was supposed to do.	2788.3680
1981		2789.9135	It was	2790.2000
1983		2790.3691	beat over my head. So, you don't wanna be like me you know, I was	2794.8745
1985		2795.7409	trying to finish, I started and then I stopped and then	2798.2158
1987		2798.5861	you know, I had you and yeah I was	2800.9712
1989		2801.5476	trying to finish that and with you, you don't wanna do th- ugh.	2804.4072
1991		2804.9761	And then my boss,	2806.2935
1993		2806.8814	she said the same thing	2808.2759
1995		2808.8144	So I was like, fine.	2809.5930
1997		2810.3548	It was a little bitter because- this sounds terrible. (whispered)	2813.1024
1999		2813.2680	I'll- I'll be quiet. Karma's awful so let me just be quiet.	2816.0880
2001		2816.5861	Um,	2817.3558
2003		2817.9668	<ts>	2818.0496
2005		2819.5787	uh, well I was gonna say that they had some- they had- they did some downsizing,	2823.6527
2007		2824.3499	but you'd get some kind of severance, and it was right when I was about to go to law school and I would never wish to be like,	2830.2878
2009		2830.4155	laid off, cause unemployment sucks, been there, but I'm just saying that like you know would've been really nice. But they knew I was going to law school so they wouldn't give it to me. The point is	2837.8203
2011		2838.7557	I went from- /it went to-/	2840.1157
2013		2840.3686	from AIA, American Institute of Architects, I'm an assistant,	2843.1300
2015		2843.9169	<ts>	2843.9894
2017		2844.6038	from two thousand six maybe to two thousand nine, when I went to law school which was-	2851.1147
2019		2851.8889	I don't know how I feel about that decision, so.	2854.2910
2021		2855.2991	<ts>	2855.3647
2023		2856.2725	Mm I didn't	2858.9924
2025		2859.0969	ever think that I could do law school	2861.5200
2027		2861.6201	but	2862.0205
2029		2862.1240	I- after graduating and moving back home I- all these	2865.7320
2031		2866.4431	kids went to law school.	2867.8307
2033		2868.4381	And then I talked to some who were at Howard	2871.4625
2035		2872.4362	My um- <ts>	2873.9273
2037		2873.9998	and- and- and they kept telling me like,	2876.3971
2039		2876.9899	/RD-NAME-3/ they are s- I- I swear there are some incredibly	2880.2966
2041		2880.4968	not bright people who	2881.8085
2043		2882.0708	we have gone to law school with, you'll be fine.	2884.2084
2045		2884.3637	And I was like, are you sure? And they were like, yeah.	2886.3967
2047		2886.6729	And at the time the economy was different cause I was	2888.6368
2049		2888.9692	applying like,	2890.1393
2051		2890.8573	started taking the test and all that stuff so that had to be two thousand-	2894.6313
2053		2896.3050	wait a minute, I f- got my acceptance letters March two thousand nine.	2901.7631
2055		2902.3085	So I had been preparing two thousand eight before the economy went to, you know-	2905.5910
2057		2906.2261	So,	2906.8408
2059		2907.5802	when I was applying,	2908.7606
2061		2909.2232	you graduate,	2910.0992
2063		2910.4589	get this good job,	2911.8188
2065		2912.2375	and life is grand	2913.7175
2067		2913.8080	except	2914.6778
2069		2914.7675	you know once I got in it, the economy tanked and-	2917.1449
2071		2918.5343	So our-	2919.2943
2073		2919.5353	<ts>	2919.5905
2075		2919.9115	a lot of our experiences for those who graduated in two thousand twelve when I did,	2923.6995
2077		2924.2823	it wasn't as-	2925.5944
2078	DCB_int_01	2925.7804	Mm.	2926.0254
2079	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2926.2705	yeah, wasn't as carefree as other people I had	2928.9317
2081		2929.1388	talked to who had graduated several years	2931.0062
2083		2931.3075	in front of me.	2932.1195
2085		2932.5363	<ts>	2932.6433
2087		2933.1438	But I did enjoy Howard,	2934.7661
2089		2935.7705	and	2936.6798
2091		2936.7621	[um-]	2937.3903
2092	DCB_int_01	2937.2419	[Think] there were black people there.	2938.4983
2093	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	2938.6433	<ts>	2938.7675
2095		2939.1093	There were quite a few.	2940.3986
2097		2940.9973	And um,	2942.8972
2099		2943.4318	<ts>	2943.4939
2101		2943.5595	lifelong friends who I will have	2946.9421
2103		2947.4736	forever I believe.	2949.2039
2105		2949.9460	Um,	2950.5220
2107		2950.8331	<ts>	2950.9850
2109		2951.1403	who I was just hanging out with yesterday, one of which you know.	2954.5110
2111		2955.4283	So yeah I mean that part of it was good, and everyone kept telling me you can do anything with a law degree.	2960.9579
2113		2962.7365	But it- my heart's never been in law, like I never wanted to practice.	2965.8844
2115		2966.9382	And I mean maybe this is partly my fault too, I graduated and	2970.0888
2117		2970.3173	that	2970.5728
2119		2970.8869	exam has not worked out for me and	2973.3903
2121		2973.7079	I don't- I don't really wanna practice so I- then I started feeling like, why do I keep taking it if this isn't what you wanna d- and it was- so it was like a whole bunch of	2979.9978
2123		2980.4224	things tied up into it like- probably should've taken these off.	2983.3839
2125		2983.7912	I- I	2984.3179
2127		2984.4411	I w-	2984.7665
2129		2986.2187	glad I got the terminal degree and	2989.4150
2131		2990.5171	<ts>	2990.5654
2133		2990.6310	I'm glad that it was Howard	2992.4776
2135		2992.6088	and	2993.7271
2137		2993.7961	it's just my heart was not	2996.0960
2139		2996.2789	in law and I-	2997.6922
2141		2997.9771	it's-	2998.5777
2143		2998.8642	still not, so	3001.2113
2145		3001.8154	that's why I made the face about law school.	3003.9501
2146	DCB_int_01	3004.0047	So [how'd /you end up-/]	3005.0154
2147	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3004.1255	[I should've] probably gotten an MBA but you know hindsight's always twenty-twenty as they say, so here I am.	3010.1145
2148		3010.3050	<ts>	3010.4224
2150		3011.1714	Hm?	3011.4199
2151	DCB_int_01	3011.4786	How'd you end up in your job?	3012.8351
2152	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3013.9776	<ts>	3014.0742
2154		3015.0486	Because this is a very typical path that you take	3018.1420
2156		3018.2794	if you're looking for a job after law school. Well the- okay so document review is basically the discovery process of-	3024.0891
2158		3024.4209	I don't know how familiar	3025.0636
2160		3025.6048	you or the other	3026.2468
2162		3026.4722	people who'd be listening to this are with document review but	3028.6916
2164		3029.0955	basically discovery process, so when two parties are	3031.9048
2166		3033.0417	litigating, there are all these documents that have to be reviewed whether it's privileged, confidential, things like that.	3039.5825
2168		3040.3672	<ts>	3040.4258
2170		3040.4949	Basically categorize for discovery so	3043.0836
2172		3043.2631	they need people generally	3045.2005
2174		3045.9771	lawyers or at least JDs like me to review it.	3049.4150
2176		3049.5876	So,	3050.0089
2178		3050.3238	that's how I ended up doing that. I actually	3052.9781
2180		3053.8410	clerked for a year	3054.9110
2182		3055.6290	afterwards	3056.6903
2184		3056.8622	um,	3057.3702
2186		3057.6216	<ts>	3057.7148
2188		3059.2232	and that was an enjoyable exper- I mean you get a really	3062.9616
2190		3063.4594	up close look at how the court system works	3066.2897
2192		3066.4554	and- so that was good.	3067.7498
2194		3069.1349	It did show me again that I really don't wanna practice, so	3071.9515
2196		3072.0792	it eliminated that for good and then after that I worked for	3076.0151
2198		3076.2394	DC government.	3077.3821
2200		3078.3967	And that was fun.	3080.1421
2202		3081.1763	Um, <ts>	3082.3395
2204		3082.4776	and then my contract ended.	3084.6576
2206		3085.2942	So,	3086.1328
2208		3086.9002	I	3087.9455
2210		3088.5881	jumped on doc review projects	3090.3657
2212		3090.4934	while I was-	3091.2355
2214		3091.4184	after I studied for the bar that time and I've kind of been bouncing around on projects while I look for	3096.7626
2216		3097.4288	something else that	3098.5678
2218		3099.2419	maybe could allow me to use my law degree but not	3102.4130
2220		3103.4150	a practice.	3104.4884
2221	DCB_int_01	3104.4722	Mm-hm.	3104.8795
2222	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3105.0555	Yeah.	3105.3558
2223	DCB_int_01	3105.9253	So let's switch gears totally.	3107.7547
2224	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3107.9204	[Okay.]	3108.4589
2225	DCB_int_01	3108.2725	[Um,]	3108.8050
2226		3109.5013	[So these questions] are not gonna be chronologi- they're just gonna be kind of random.	3112.7409
2227	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3109.5082	[Good.]	3110.1376
2228		3112.7606	Sure.	3113.4096
2229	DCB_int_01	3114.0861	One of the things is	3115.9461
2231		3116.4411	people come from all over the country to come tour DC and see all the monuments and all of these museums and things.	3123.0305
2233		3123.4007	Have you been a tourist in your own back yard?	3125.5317
2234	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3127.3977	<ts>	3127.4736
2236		3127.5910	Yeah.	3127.9910
2238		3128.6862	Um,	3129.6630
2240		3131.9549	<ts>	3131.9929
2242		3132.0654	Not as much as I	3132.9455
2244		3133.0698	as I should be, I mean growing up there was always a trip to a museum.	3137.4648
2246		3138.0032	But if you ask me anything about that now I'd be like, Mm-mm-mm. (I don't know intonation)	3140.6230
2248		3141.0245	Um,	3141.8018
2250		3142.6601	if that makes s-	3143.3405
2252		3143.5959	you know like I remember going to see the big dinosaur, so that was Natural History, I remember seeing the-	3148.1911
2254		3148.6985	the diamond which was-	3150.9386
2256		3151.1216	that's Natural too, isn't it?	3152.3228
2258		3153.0555	I feel like I've seen a lot of these Smithsonian museums, I actually worked for the Smithsonian	3157.2217
2260		3157.8854	every summer like in high school	3160.0547
2262		3160.3879	at their, uh,	3161.5856
2264		3162.3035	their big festival for some reason I can't remember it right now, the name of it.	3165.2281
2266		3165.3938	But I worked for a festival every summer.	3166.9367
2268		3168.0239	Not that that really involved touristy things so I would say that I've- I've done a lot of touristy things.	3173.4855
2270		3174.0861	Uh,	3174.6567
2272		3174.9041	/even/ the last few years like made it a point to go see Martin Luther King and	3178.8607
2274		3179.2715	a couple weeks ago I went	3181.6462
2276		3181.7256	down to the Lincoln Memorial.	3184.2602
2278		3185.4717	FDR, I've s- I've seen all of them, the World War Two, the Korean.	3190.2187
2280		3191.0333	So yeah I'd say I've been a t- I'd- I'd say so, I haven't seen everything.	3193.6640
2282		3193.9051	But	3194.1226
2284		3194.4159	I've- I've spent time doing that.	3196.0786
2285	DCB_int_01	3196.8711	Do you have a favorite?	3197.7478
2286	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3202.1221	Hm.	3202.4261
2288		3204.2310	I feel like	3205.8790
2290		3206.0891	I like any one that involves water, and I feel like the FDR one involves water but I- mm.	3211.3425
2292		3212.0787	I know World War Two involves water.	3213.6895
2294		3214.8987	<ts>	3215.0057
2296		3215.0747	This is terrible.	3215.7892
2298		3215.9929	But that's how I feel, I really like the water ones.	3218.0708
2300		3219.2454	I would say one of my favorites	3221.2335
2302		3222.5279	is also the Korean one cause it's those statues of the men,	3225.9322
2304		3226.0807	but it	3226.5535
2306		3227.3371	at night kind of creeps me out a little bit, it's a little eerie.	3230.3011
2308		3230.9968	It's probably not the right reason to like or dislike a memorial but I- I do like that one a lot too.	3236.1191
2309	DCB_int_01	3236.1132	Kind of Thriller-esque.	3237.3800
2310	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3237.4248	Yeah, it's different, I like that.	3239.3371
2312		3239.5614	<ts>	3239.6857
2314		3240.2034	So those are probably my favorites.	3242.7554
2316		3243.3696	I don't remember why I lied FDR that much, but I've been there a couple times I remember I really liked it.	3247.3770
2317	DCB_int_01	3247.6048	It's one of my [favorites.]	3248.7835
2318	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3248.0338	[I'm not very good] with history, so.	3250.2058
2319		3250.8573	It's like aesthetic purposes as to why I would like	3253.8775
2321		3254.1063	all of these, [yeah.]	3255.3006
2322	DCB_int_01	3254.9451	[Mm-hm.]	3255.3051
2323		3255.6630	[Exactly.]	3256.2878
2324	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3255.6665	[<ts>]	3255.8011
2326		3256.2705	Yeah.	3256.5604
2327	DCB_int_01	3257.0299	Um,	3257.6419
2329		3258.1482	so-	3258.7242
2330	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3258.7108	Oh and Martin Luther King	3259.8464
2331		3260.1364	too.	3260.5817
2333		3261.5871	Because-	3262.1044
2335		3262.1670	well actually no I-	3262.8331
2337		3263.0575	in- in seriousness I do like that one cause it's like	3265.1175
2339		3265.3666	huge and in his likeness.	3267.3278
2341		3267.9978	I can't	3268.5058
2343		3268.7848	say I- that one's not on the list.	3270.6968
2345		3271.6600	I just- my first one I j- jumped to is the water,	3274.3016
2347		3274.3913	so.	3274.6846
2349		3274.8745	Yeah.	3275.1399
2350	DCB_int_01	3275.8479	Understandable.	3276.4899
2351	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3276.5555	Yeah.	3276.8475
2352	DCB_int_01	3277.3563	Um,	3278.2003
2354		3279.9737	have you noticed	3281.0299
2356		3281.2094	the changing in DC? Have you seen the neighborhoods change?	3285.1585
2357	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3285.6216	Yeah.	3286.0669
2358	DCB_int_01	3286.2671	And what are your-	3286.8711
2360		3287.4372	well some people are like,	3288.2587
2361	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3288.7661	[Don't?]	3289.0897
2362	DCB_int_01	3288.8938	[Don't] feel like it's changed.	3290.1709
2363		3290.7932	So, tha- I- it's always I	3292.1372
2364	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3292.3016	<ts>	3292.3637
2365	DCB_int_01	3292.4086	don't wanna presume that you	3293.5712
2367		3293.6719	[/do./]	3294.0212
2368	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3293.7409	[Do] know? Yeah, no it definitely has changed. I'm probably not-	3296.7828
2369		3297.4145	one, I'm not very observant but	3300.0343
2371		3300.6418	I mean	3301.3390
2373		3301.6359	I have noticed that change.	3303.2278
2375		3303.7528	Just like growing-first, kindergarten, first, second- or [f	3304.6985
2377		3305.6201	/just honest/ and if- any of my friends will tell you the same thing.	3308.1554
2379		3308.5368	Um,	3309.2474
2381		3309.3800	<ts> my neighbor last week was like, you're not very observant, and I was like,	3312.6591
2383		3312.7833	Mm. Mm-hm I tried to tell you.	3314.0017
2385		3314.4825	Uh, <ts>	3315.5388
2387		3315.8149	yeah so I notice that neighborhoods like where I live now Fort Totten,	3319.6042
2389		3322.6433	you didn't see	3324.0585
2391		3324.4623	white	3324.8583
2393		3325.8751	people walking through the neighborhood the way you do now.	3328.9415
2395		3329.4510	Especially- well, no.	3330.7488
2397		3330.8489	Period.	3331.2076
2399		3331.4736	Boom.	3331.7015
2401		3332.3203	Um, and you just	3333.2868
2403		3333.4110	neighborhoods that have historically f- in my experience been black,	3336.8457
2405		3337.6946	you suddenly see	3339.2385
2407		3339.7976	white people moving into them,	3341.1162
2409		3341.8376	<ts>	3341.8893
2411		3342.2172	um, like from a residential perspective like my neighborhood where I live now.	3346.1704
2413		3347.0126	Uh,	3347.8233
2415		3349.6152	I know down by Howard,	3351.0085
2417		3351.4559	U Street in general, pretty much kind of	3353.7892
2419		3354.0826	anywhere, Capitol Hill,	3355.4150
2421		3355.7532	like places where you just-	3356.6852
2423		3357.9081	growing up when I'm a kid you just didn't see	3360.7039
2425		3362.1477	them.	3362.7584
2427		3362.9761	You see them kind of like, everywhere.	3365.8099
2429		3365.8962	And	3366.4934
2431		3367.4875	<ts>	3367.5323
2433		3367.6083	I don't mean that to be racist I just mean that like	3370.4189
2435		3370.5950	you just-	3371.3681
2437		3372.4036	you see f-	3372.8810
2439		3373.2596	it's a different-	3374.2796
2441		3374.7725	it's a different group of people. You see neighborhoods changing, you see a lot more restaurants and businesses popping up	3381.3627
2443		3381.4766	where	3381.8980
2445		3382.3499	they weren't before.	3383.3939
2447		3384.2656	Neighborhoods where people- you know, you can walk around	3386.8509
2449		3387.7217	not	3387.9944
2451		3388.3050	being in fear in the night- in the darkness, um, all those things that come with gentrification so it's really different.	3394.7883
2452	DCB_int_01	3395.3647	Is that [a good-]	3395.9239
2453	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3395.5925	[And it's also] hard not- huh?	3396.8552
2454	DCB_int_01	3397.0905	Mm go ahead.	3397.5519
2455	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3398.0131	No I was gonna say it's also like- it's interesting y- for y- for you to hear people that don't notice that. One, just	3402.0550
2457		3402.3519	from someone who's	3402.9524
2459		3404.0718	like	3404.2685
2461		3404.7242	self-admittedly not observant to also like	3407.9515
2463		3409.7153	growing up here, you talk to anyone who grows up here you know that. I mean even	3413.3095
2465		3414.8765	the w-	3415.2578
2467		3415.3356	w- woman who I would claim is my cousin	3417.6716
2469		3418.7814	who's not, uh, I- she lives in Fort Totten too,	3422.3077
2471		3422.9313	and I used to live with her. She's now married, she married a white guy.	3425.8962
2473		3426.4312	They have a baby.	3427.1821
2475		3427.7256	And I mean she even talks about it, she's like, yeah the neighborhood's filling with a lot of-	3431.6788
2477		3431.7823	the- DC is filling with a lot of families like mine, like a lot of blended families and white families, and	3436.9401
2479		3437.5373	she grew up on Columbia and she's like, I	3439.2631
2481		3439.3943	don't remember DC being like- it's just weird, people who grew up in this area	3442.1331
2483		3442.8987	they talk about it so it's	3444.4520
2485		3444.6280	interesting that people wouldn't notice at least like someone would	3447.7148
2487		3448.6467	point it out to you.	3449.6995
2488	DCB_int_01	3450.1413	I think when- when they said that to me it was more so	3453.6216
2490		3454.1462	I guess maybe how they felt about it, not that they didn't notice [but]	3457.0837
2491	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3456.9110	[Oh.]	3457.6773
2492	DCB_int_01	3457.2873	[they didn't] feel- like it wasn't something that affected them.	3460.7158
2493	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3461.0678	[Okay.]	3461.6201
2494	DCB_int_01	3461.3026	[Personally.]	3462.0274
2495	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3462.4761	It feels like it doesn't affect me	3464.5402
2497		3464.7518	personally but in my	3465.8529
2499		3466.0392	pocket book because things are more expensive, so.	3470.1157
2501		3470.6068	<ts>	3470.6965
2503		3470.9244	I feel like that's how it affects me.	3472.5156
2505		3472.6502	Um,	3473.4289
2507		3473.9549	it's also like	3474.9628
2509		3475.4012	I like- and maybe this is like the t- I don't know if this is the typical gentrification conversation but	3479.8652
2511		3481.6359	I like	3482.7473
2513		3483.9840	what-	3484.9677
2515		3485.3405	I like to see some of the changes that I see in DC I like seeing new businesses, I like that	3490.4189
2517		3490.9298	I feel if I go out	3492.5624
2519		3492.7695	there's so many new	3493.9327
2521		3494.1640	restaurants, bars, whatever that I can	3496.7537
2523		3497.3095	choose to-	3499.1285
2525		3499.2734	you know cause it's so much new	3501.5998
2527		3501.7148	coming into DC.	3502.9746
2529		3503.4889	But it's sad, I mean you grow- like,	3504.9248
2531		3505.0871	okay so growing up for me I thought all cities were like DC.	3508.8987
2533		3509.2266	So I thought	3510.0213
2535		3510.8040	it would be-	3511.9948
2537		3512.5205	I thought other cities were mostly black, I thought	3515.6270
2539		3515.8859	other cities	3516.8696
2541		3517.2458	were mostly black	3518.3686
2543		3518.5067	professionals.	3519.8977
2545		3520.5190	And not to say that doesn't exist other places but I always thought it was in- it was t- highly cult-	3524.2502
2547		3524.4411	uh, concentrated like it is here and then	3526.7211
2549		3527.0540	the older	3527.8583
2551		3528.0343	I get and the more I travel and	3530.5543
2553		3530.9244	kind of pay attention as much as I'm capable of paying attention to things	3533.6563
2555		3534.2449	outside of myself, um,	3535.7394
2557		3535.9224	<ts>	3535.9845
2559		3537.4766	I'm like, oh it's not like this everywhere, DC is a little unique.	3541.1078
2561		3541.7843	It's very unique, so	3543.4790
2563		3545.7340	it's bittersweet in the fact that	3547.5634
2565		3547.9810	unfortunately	3549.1250
2567		3549.3455	as	3549.9470
2569		3550.3982	the city changes	3551.8962
2571		3552.8454	it's bringing in a lot of stuff that's good,	3555.0407
2573		3556.7641	but	3557.8401
2575		3557.9515	it's-	3558.7768
2577		3559.2286	I- it's- it's- it's sad to think about	3561.7424
2579		3561.8736	i-	3562.0358
2581		3562.2394	if it continues at this rate,	3563.8721
2583		3564.9179	if all the black people move out,	3566.0777
2585		3566.5826	that's obviously sad that	3568.6051
2587		3568.9608	we won't be here at all	3570.0382
2589		3570.5348	if things continue.	3571.5116
2591		3571.5945	So.	3571.9569
2593		3572.8036	I would say that part is sad.	3574.2822
2595		3575.2508	And you're just- it's just- it's- it's a unique experience, now that I'm older and I'm an adult and I understand it, it's a unique experience to walk around a neighborhood and	3582.0378
2597		3582.4312	you see a bunch of black people who are like-	3584.1131
2599		3584.4308	I don't say black people don't do well, but just so many	3587.4308
2601		3588.3001	uh,	3588.7315
2603		3588.8351	families that have been there for generations or	3592.0841
2605		3592.1704	you know.	3592.7304
2607		3592.9815	Even if they haven't been there for generations like	3594.8075
2609		3595.7532	professional, it's just	3597.5146
2611		3597.9633	to think of that culture leaving the city is	3600.2483
2613		3601.2389	sad.	3601.6669
2614	DCB_int_01	3603.7320	That was the question I was gonna ask you was your thoughts on that.	3605.8347
2615	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3605.8272	Yeah,	3606.3001
2616		3606.4243	but	3606.7563
2618		3608.0052	<ts>	3608.0673
2620		3608.6689	I'm- I d- I do like what-	3610.9712
2622		3612.6211	I do- I d- I d- I d- in some sense like it cause it is new and the neighborhoods are changing like, I don't remember there being much to do in- in Brookland.	3620.2478
2624		3620.9244	Like cause I lived in Brookland too.	3622.7814
2626		3622.9746	At some um,	3623.9653
2628		3624.1033	<ts>	3624.2587
2630		3624.3622	like w- well my mom did when I was in college so that's where I would come home to and	3628.7814
2632		3629.2266	there wasn't much happening then and now like, one of my friends just moved kind of to that area and there's all kinds of stuff to do over there now.	3635.6345
2634		3636.4451	So I mean in-	3636.9593
2636		3637.6359	that's nice.	3638.7335
2638		3640.6157	But	3641.1886
2640		3643.5082	you know.	3643.8668
2641	DCB_int_01	3645.6112	So the other question I have that's totally- this is not related to anything actually,	3650.6164
2643		3651.0762	how did you meet /RD-NAME-3/?	3652.2816
2644	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3653.2542	<ts>	3653.3474
2646		3653.4372	Law school.	3653.8790
2648		3654.2207	We were [in the same] section.	3655.0140
2649	DCB_int_01	3654.3967	[Mm.]	3654.6487
2650	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3656.4204	Section three, that's where	3657.8045
2652		3658.4983	I feel like	3659.2090
2654		3659.3543	at least	3659.9963
2656		3660.2897	at Howard	3661.0397
2658		3661.4633	for my class, I can't speak for other classes,	3663.3972
2660		3663.9184	you-	3664.5190
2662		3665.2128	I uh, most-	3665.9825
2664		3666.3173	most people seem to kind of- you make that foundation	3668.8819
2666		3669.3006	with the people cause l-	3670.2187
2668		3670.8366	law school can take a lot of your spirit and soul and	3674.1046
2670		3674.7276	you really come to rely heavily	3677.2526
2672		3677.8790	on	3678.7710
2674		3679.9948	the-	3680.1157
2676		3680.3824	the friends that you make especially early on cause it's just- it demands so much of you.	3684.2276
2677	DCB_int_01	3684.2587	Right.	3684.5451
2678	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3685.4115	And	3686.8992
2680		3687.5077	so you-	3688.2864
2682		3688.4431	the- lot of people I noticed in our class	3690.9214
2684		3691.1595	y- the people that they made friends with early on are the people that they remain closest to	3695.7375
2686		3696.0516	throughout the three years so he was in that group of people	3698.8888
2688		3699.5111	in my section	3700.4605
2690		3700.8055	that	3701.1149
2692		3701.8341	we've just all been really close	3703.2700
2694		3703.7291	since then.	3704.3051
2695	DCB_int_01	3707.3716	What's your favorite book or movie and why?	3709.6518
2696	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3712.7399	<ts>	3712.8504
2698		3713.4510	So I'm a	3714.2069
2700		3714.6176	little- I would call my- I guess I would say I'm a film buff so this is hard.	3718.1931
2702		3721.8844	<ts>	3721.9638
2704		3722.2133	I don't know.	3723.0373
2706		3724.4258	I hate that question actually, that's like my least favorite question.	3726.8489
2708		3727.2355	Um,	3727.9569
2710		3728.0787	cause I really don't, I mean-	3729.3188
2711	DCB_int_01	3731.9169	Maybe your last one then, let's say what's the last one you watched and	3735.0831
2712	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3735.0866	<ts>	3735.1901
2713	DCB_int_01	3735.7631	tell me a [little bit about it.]	3736.7744
2714	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3736.1670	[Okay there let's-] that's a lot easier to [do, so] I r- <laugh>	3739.5560
2715	DCB_int_01	3737.8893	[Mm-hm.]	3738.2200
2716	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3740.3824	<laugh> I would say uh,	3742.3552
2718		3743.0057	I really like Birdman which won the last	3745.5220
2720		3746.0545	Oscars, I just thought it was different and	3749.5959
2722		3750.5451	unique	3751.7498
2724		3751.8129	in telling a story, I also liked that it was kind of a parody on the people who were in it too.	3755.8209
2726		3755.9204	<ts>	3756.0205
2728		3756.4347	Like I feel like Michael Keaton kind of played himself, I feel like what's his face who's name is escaping me kind of played himself, the other main guy in it, he's from Colu- he's from here, he's from Columbia.	3764.5747
2730		3765.4973	What is your name?	3766.3360
2732		3767.1990	Dude who was in-	3768.4174
2734		3769.4840	oh my god.	3770.2907
2736		3771.6527	For some reason his name isn't here, it has left, but I- th- he- I felt like he was kind of playing himself so I'd say that was the last movie that I really liked that I've seen.	3779.4505
2738		3780.4347	I mean I really liked Straight Outta Compton too and	3782.3307
2740		3782.5412	it's not a favorite.	3783.2506
2742		3783.6803	It's not a favorite but that was one of the- I'm thinking of /one of-/ some of the last movies I saw.	3787.0699
2743	DCB_int_01	3787.2148	Is it good?	3787.6635
2744	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3787.3080	[I like] that one. I liked it.	3788.3928
2745		3788.6172	I thought it was good.	3789.1785
2747		3789.4041	It was b-	3789.7615
2749		3790.2049	It exceeded my expectations.	3792.4589
2750	DCB_int_01	3792.6452	I've been wanting to see it.	3793.5468
2751	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3793.6980	Yeah it's- I thought it was worth it.	3795.3040
2753		3795.5940	Felt like, you know.	3796.3900
2755		3796.9746	T- it gave me- I feel like that was a-	3798.7005
2757		3800.1260	that w- w- I feel like N.W.A. was	3803.1093
2759		3803.4234	the generation before me, I didn't grow up on them.	3806.1460
2760	DCB_int_01	3806.1857	Mm-hm.	3806.7310
2761	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3807.0037	So it was interesti- but you know who they are.	3809.6357
2762	DCB_int_01	3809.9722	Yup.	3810.2138
2763	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3810.6349	So it was interesting seeing that story cause I didn't know it.	3813.9625
2764	DCB_int_01	3814.3464	Mm.	3814.6998
2766		3815.1196	Have you seen War Room?	3816.0349
2767	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3817.7015	No, which one is that?	3818.7370
2768	DCB_int_01	3819.0624	That's like the-	3820.0013
2770		3820.6916	think it's like a Christian movie like	3822.9317
2772		3823.5427	they-	3823.8064
2774		3824.4894	something about prayer	3825.6321
2776		3825.8874	and like testimony like they have this whole	3828.2986
2778		3828.9283	situation like	3830.0190
2780		3830.1650	their marriage is on the rocks or something, I haven't seen it.	3832.1966
2781	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3832.2809	Who's they?	3832.8469
2782	DCB_int_01	3833.6926	Some couple in the mo- I don't know- I don't- it's not [like a well] known-	3836.7621
2783	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3835.6393	[Oh.]	3836.1513
2785		3836.6724	[Okay] yeah [no I have not seen] that one.	3838.5671
2786	DCB_int_01	3837.2764	[They're like- they're kind of-]	3837.9806
2787	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3838.7641	I've gotten away from going to the movies the way I used to and I told myself I was gonna get back into it.	3843.5457
2789		3844.4776	Um,	3845.0376
2791		3845.3233	<ts>	3845.4026
2793		3845.5304	but yeah.	3845.9917
2794	DCB_int_01	3846.7074	So,	3847.2182
2796		3847.5082	<clears throat>	3847.8495
2798		3848.0373	last two couple of things before-	3850.2049
2800		3850.5604	Um,	3851.1724
2802		3852.0032	unique to DC-	3853.0940
2804		3853.2873	there are a few things that are unique to DC.	3855.1349
2805	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3855.1315	Mm-hm.	3855.6261
2806	DCB_int_01	3856.6157	Go go music.	3857.5117
2808		3859.0353	Do you have any feeling? Can you talk about it? Do you have any experiences with it?	3863.0264
2809	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3863.2577	Yeah.	3863.6537
2811		3864.5244	Um,	3865.3671
2813		3865.6531	<ts>	3865.6980
2815		3866.3963	so,	3867.7942
2817		3868.7123	that was one good thing was /RD-SCHOOL-2/ had a go go for homecoming every year.	3873.0675
2819		3873.6527	And Junk Yard would come.	3874.9091
2821		3875.0161	So-	3875.6995
2823		3876.7108	You're not from DC, right?	3877.7532
2824	DCB_int_01	3877.6707	N- but I know Junk Yard.	3878.8150
2825	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	3878.9520	Okay.	3879.3351
2827		3879.6354	So,	3880.3326
2829		3880.6088	<creak> growing up in- /?/ going to high school in DC.	3883.5845
2831		3884.8760	I don't- I don't- still don't know why	3887.1507
2833		3887.3095	this ha- I like- I literally to this day I would love for someone to tell me why.	3891.2638
2835		3891.6768	But	3892.1601
2837		3893.2922	schools like /RD-SCHOOL-2/,	3894.5866
2839		3895.0698	there was one at I wanna say Sidwell,	3898.3958
2841		3899.2784	there might have been one at NCS, I know what-	3901.2389
2843		3901.3666	ugh, /give-/ <sigh>	3902.6106
2845		3903.4801	What did- Holton I feel like had one, if not Holton then maybe it's Brother's School but all of these	3908.1418
2847		3908.6541	mostly white affluent schools, at least when- you know,	3912.1827
2849		3913.2665	the late nineties,	3914.5506
2851		3915.2523	they would have- they would host go gos.	3917.7409
2853		3918.1551	So, yeah.	3919.3770
2855		3919.6669	So my school was one, so every year for homecoming we had Junk Yard.	3924.0109
2857		3924.7384	And then-	3925.7843
2859		3926.1477	yeah, so these bands, and like the major ones, would go to these white schools and I don't know why. I- I would love for somebody to tell me why, I don't know why.	3933.3131
2861		3933.9012	Um,	3934.4425
2863		3935.0609	<ts>	3935.1300
2865		3936.2587	and so it would-	3937.1975
2867		3938.8243	it would bring	3939.9633
2869		3940.2740	a	3940.7166
2871		3941.3405	different dynamic	3942.8392
2873		3943.4805	to the school at least for that evening which was interesting, so I would attend those.	3947.6236
2875		3947.9639	<ts>	3948.0786
2877		3948.9961	and one of my friends growing up	3951.1638
2879		3951.7429	um,	3952.4883
2881		3953.0880	<ts> who went to my middle school with me and my church,	3955.3041
2883		3955.8174	he was	3956.7837
2885		3957.0652	into it like, I feel like if I remember	3960.1079
2887		3960.6590	he	3961.5323
2889		3962.3145	would like carry drums for like Backyard or something, I mean maybe that's not true maybe I'm exaggerating, I feel like it was some band that he really kind of like knew them and	3970.8308
2891		3970.9733	maybe would like, kind of help out a little bit if I remember.	3974.1535
2893		3974.5160	But he was like into it so sometimes I would go with	3977.0011
2895		3977.6754	him and his friends or I feel like if you-	3979.4954
2897		3980.6332	feel like at that age in high school espe- like if you hear about one	3983.9152
2899		3984.1585	that's at one of those high schools that I mentioned or you just hear about one period,	3987.7945
2901		3988.2712	you'd go to it. I feel like the friend that I mentioned, the guy,	3991.5625
2903		3991.9391	I went with him and his friends to the Black Hole	3994.5180
2905		3994.7926	at least once.	3996.1689
2907		3997.8442	Which was like awful.	3999.2362
2909		3999.5379	But um,	4000.4624
2911		4001.4043	cause it was just like- it's one thing to go to like-	4004.8696
2913		4006.4415	I'm sure I sound racist and now I sound like something else but that's fine. Um, <ts> so it's different to go to the ones that were at like the schools,	4013.7136
2915		4014.1133	and then to go to that,	4015.5418
2917		4016.2682	where	4016.8095
2919		4018.4937	you know,	4019.1712
2921		4019.4425	I got separated from them at one point which was a mistake cause I was like, I wanna go to the front, and it was just- it was just bad, you know it was just- it was different. But it w- it was alright, it was fun.	4026.7285
2923		4027.5766	Yet bad.	4028.1392
2925		4028.8184	Um,	4029.4301
2927		4029.9237	so yeah I- I- I attended.	4031.4321
2929		4032.2211	And then in college when I would come home,	4034.0979
2931		4034.8845	um,	4035.5205
2933		4036.2469	<ts>	4036.3234
2935		4036.8273	my mostly non-high school friends would-	4040.7802
2937		4041.8959	I mean I guess the black kids who went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ would go too.	4044.7036
2939		4045.4653	Yeah, I feel like-	4046.2907
2941		4048.4346	yeah.	4048.7891
2943		4048.9386	I went.	4049.3174
2945		4049.7484	I was there.	4050.3550
2947		4050.5652	Wasn't as into it as my friend who was like, carrying equipment.	4053.9306
2949		4054.6501	And I wasn't into it like I wasn't going to the mall to buy the tapes.	4058.2474
2951		4058.8427	But I would enjoy it when it was on the radio,	4060.5736
2953		4060.8760	and I would attend them	4062.5825
2955		4063.5140	when I would hear about them.	4064.5719
2957		4065.4892	Um,	4066.1452
2959		4067.0150	and that was something that I feel like growing up I didn't even realize that was unique to DC until	4070.7281
2961		4071.0756	you meet kids who like	4072.0356
2963		4072.4763	didn't really grow up here and	4074.2286
2965		4074.3879	then they'd be like-	4075.0865
2967		4075.2047	oh especially when I went to college,	4076.5219
2969		4076.9053	I'd bring my f-	4077.3606
2971		4077.4718	like, one of my friends who from college bring her home and she would come home and visit with me and she'd be like, what is this?	4083.8478
2973		4084.4450	She didn't say, what is this she knew what it was cause she had family here but she would be like, every time I hear this I don't get it.	4088.6957
2975		4088.9853	And I'm like,	4089.9132
2977		4090.0523	what do you mean you don't get it?	4090.9136
2979		4091.1540	It's music.	4091.9034
2981		4092.5478	I didn't realize how unique it was until like I'm a little older.	4095.2057
2983		4096.1635	But yeah.	4096.5889
2985		4096.9212	It's still fun when it comes on the radio it's like nostalgic.	4099.6261
2986	DCB_int_01	4101.3467	What about mumbo sauce?	4102.5880
2987	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4104.4157	<ts>	4104.5026
2989		4105.2568	I mean I've eaten it.	4107.0061
2991		4108.5006	It's-	4109.2220
2993		4110.7528	I mean it's something that I feel like you get on your fried chicken when I would	4114.5423
2995		4114.8273	you know, uh-	4115.3244
2997		4115.4703	go to carry outs and whatnot growing up.	4117.6600
2999		4117.9033	Um,	4118.6401
3001		4119.6004	<ts> something else I didn't really realize was unique to DC until I got older.	4123.4896
3003		4124.2404	It's tasty.	4125.2018
3005		4126.4659	<ts>	4126.6223
3006	DCB_int_01	4127.9291	Describe it.	4128.5718
3007	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4129.3506	It's	4130.1709
3009		4131.6804	red in color,	4132.8065
3011		4134.3775	sweet in taste,	4135.6878
3013		4137.5657	usually some kind of uh,	4139.4084
3015		4140.4157	<ts>	4140.4783
3017		4140.7389	not	4141.0483
3019		4141.2603	jelly but	4142.6216
3021		4143.0687	almost like a sweet and sour sauce is probably the closest, uh, thing I can think of.	4147.4619
3023		4149.3259	But it's just something I feel like you just-	4151.1819
3025		4151.7171	it's just one of those cultural things to DC that you just grow up with that you don't even think about.	4156.3442
3026	DCB_int_01	4157.8492	It's very much unique to DC.	4159.3854
3027	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4159.4271	Yeah I didn't know that.	4160.3482
3028	DCB_int_01	4160.4778	I didn't- well I	4161.4823
3030		4161.6039	knew [because I didn't know what] it was.	4163.3383
3031	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4162.1183	[Yeah.]	4162.5770
3032	DCB_int_01	4164.5825	What about the carry out?	4165.7921
3033	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4167.9306	<ts>	4168.0140
3035		4169.0567	Um,	4170.4296
3037		4171.4341	<ts>	4171.5036
3039		4171.6530	I feel like	4173.8944
3041		4175.1297	that's someth- there was-	4176.9266
3043		4177.4723	they weren't really in my neighborhoods growing up,	4179.9798
3045		4180.7300	but there was one across the street from my dance class, which is why I've always been fat and-	4187.5781
3047		4188.2489	I shouldn't say that cause I didn't go that often but	4190.1275
3049		4190.4118	you know, that's one of the reasons.	4191.7985
3051		4192.1461	There was one near my church although my dance school and my church were kind of in the same neighborhood.	4195.8225
3053		4196.5404	Um,	4197.2844
3055		4198.3581	I remember one of my friends got robbed and I laughed at her,	4201.6904
3057		4202.5393	um-	4203.4046
3059		4203.8368	<ts>	4203.8993
3061		4204.7057	It's not funny I just didn't really like her, but she- she got robbed.	4208.2369
3063		4208.9713	Like, he didn't have a gun, he pretended to have a gun and robbed her and she was-	4213.1715
3065		4213.5244	and she should have been traumatized,	4216.0523
3067		4216.6153	but a bunch of us, you know, when you're young and you're mean,	4219.9500
3069		4220.7628	we chuckled, not to her face.	4222.3790
3071		4222.9629	Um,	4223.7310
3073		4224.0299	so that's just one of the memories that I have when I think of carry outs, but I mean	4227.9445
3075		4228.9664	<ts> I try not to go that often, they're not very healthy.	4231.4739
3077		4232.0527	I feel like when I got older and I moved back to DC there are things that are open	4235.3209
3079		4236.0195	very late at night	4237.2151
3081		4237.3924	after	4238.1952
3083		4238.3064	clubs and whatnot when you're inebriated.	4240.5180
3085		4241.0672	I hope that doesn't make it to the final cut of this uh, video but that's	4244.7548
3087		4245.1034	I feel like their	4245.9132
3089		4246.1009	purpose	4246.8263
3091		4246.9594	primarily in my life where	4248.9718
3093		4250.3318	I would attend randomly like growing up and	4254.1168
3095		4254.9718	very often	4256.3343
3097		4256.5786	at three AM after being at somebody's party.	4259.5690
3098	DCB_int_01	4260.9961	Okay.	4261.5081
3100		4261.7757	Can you describe a carry- like, do you go in? Do you order? Do you	4265.1984
3102		4266.4539	sit and eat there? Well not at three in the morning, I don't know.	4268.6714
3103	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4268.8567	No.	4269.2606
3105		4269.8611	N- no all of the above. Like I feel like	4272.2079
3107		4276.8412	<ts> I feel like I've probably eaten at them maybe when I was in high school but	4280.3968
3109		4281.5205	I feel like when I was older and I would go, you go, you order your meal,	4285.7152
3111		4286.8810	there are a bunch of	4287.9967
3113		4289.0776	graphics on the wall, pictures of the food.	4291.7538
3115		4292.8601	A lot of times you would l- say, I'd like number eleven,	4295.3313
3117		4298.0492	or you say, I would like the three wings,	4300.5959
3119		4301.5503	mumbo sauce,	4303.1129
3121		4303.6530	fries with ketchup,	4304.9018
3123		4305.0096	whichever is your- you know,	4306.7683
3125		4308.4991	tickles your fancy, and I would usually take it and go eat it at home.	4312.5354
3127		4314.3219	Uh,	4315.0472
3129		4316.8740	plus I feel like here a lot of the carry outs are also like Chinese food places	4320.3655
3131		4321.0587	too, so it's	4322.1049
3133		4322.5056	I feel like you can get Chinese food	4323.8507
3135		4324.2400	or wings,	4325.1333
3137		4325.4703	or pizza,	4326.3601
3139		4326.7146	or subs and I don't know if that's unique to DC,	4329.0466
3141		4329.3467	but that's kind of like how I envision it.	4331.8596
3142	DCB_int_01	4333.0761	[It is.]	4333.6505
3143	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4333.5731	[Yeah.]	4334.0144
3144	DCB_int_01	4333.9067	Mm-hm.	4334.1800
3145	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4334.2137	[Okay.]	4334.6590
3146	DCB_int_01	4334.6724	It's your one stop shop.	4335.7777
3147	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4335.7638	It is a one [stop shop.]	4337.2409
3148	DCB_int_01	4336.5180	[It's like Walmart of]	4337.4773
3149		4337.9673	food.	4338.3636
3150	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4338.7111	<ts> I've never ordered a pizza from one of those places though cause	4341.9723
3152		4342.3686	it's not some- yeah, I would think that's not their specialty.	4345.1510
3154		4345.4097	<ts>	4345.5140
3155	DCB_int_01	4345.5175	Um,	4346.0666
3157		4346.2832	if you could leave one piece of advice, what would it be?	4348.5859
3159		4349.9882	To-	4350.9495
3161		4352.5706	to anybody.	4353.1208
3163		4354.5006	Young people.	4355.1300
3164	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4357.7816	[Mm.]	4359.8576
3165	DCB_int_01	4357.8685	[Old people.]	4358.4179
3166	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4359.9862	I would	4360.4763
3168		4360.5945	think that I probably wouldn't have much advice for an old person.	4363.7191
3170		4363.9241	<ts>	4364.0284
3172		4364.5810	[But-]	4365.4098
3173	DCB_int_01	4365.1208	[You never] know.	4365.7915
3174	DCB_se3_ag3_f_01	4365.8889	Mm, it's true. I don't know.	4368.0383
3176		4369.0795	Uh,	4370.0979
3178		4372.9177	I don't know, maybe	4374.6526
3180		4377.5135	for me,	4378.6002
3182		4379.6650	I guess one piece of advice is-	4382.4303
3184		4383.0617	Okay.	4383.4545
3186		4383.7881	I guess from someone who	4385.1655
3188		4385.9187	has grown up with education being such a central part of	4390.1218
3190		4390.9073	my life with parents who were involved in education and	4395.1033
3192		4397.1262	have had a- have had a lot of it is, uh,	4400.0929
3194		4401.9758	you don't have to-	4403.1471
3196		4403.9152	especially in today's day in age, you don't have to think of that- you don't have to think of going that traditional	4408.9118
3198		4409.5781	path.	4410.3888
3200		4410.4539	Think about what you want,	4411.9113
3202		4412.6168	and if there's an alternative route to- maybe I shouldn't say that in a university study but	4416.9058
3204		4417.1769	listen, you guys take a lot of our money, okay?	4418.9008
3206		4419.5066	Um,	4420.2866
3208		4420.4381	<ts>	4420.5111
3210		4420.8412	if there's	4421.3869
3212		4421.5294	another	4422.4361
3214		4423.1595	way to get there,	4424.6928
3216		4425.1625	don't be afraid to think of that.	4427.2212
3218		4428.7911	Save you some coins.	4430.2335
3220		4431.1868	Um,	4431.7846
3222		4433.3800	So that- that probably'd be the advice I'd give, think about what you really wanna do,	4436.5671
3224		4437.2424	and go after that, and if it's not a traditional	4440.6659
3226		4440.9857	route,	4441.6964
3228		4442.2960	don't be	4443.1451
3230		4443.2529	afraid of that.	4444.3964