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1 | DCB_int_01 | 0.7052 | So let me- Before we go back- Cause I- I wanna | 3.0460 |
3 | | 3.2301 | kind of ask you a little bit about that. | 5.2830 |
5 | | 5.9130 | But | 6.1537 |
7 | | 6.3065 | before you went off to college | 7.7789 |
9 | | 8.0196 | <clears throat> | 8.5930 |
11 | | 9.3433 | there's a lot | 10.3202 |
13 | | 10.9007 | of attention | 11.6723 |
15 | | 11.9808 | in DC | 12.7312 |
17 | | 13.1630 | nationally because of the riots and- [and things] like that. | 16.2282 |
18 | DCB_se3_ag4_m_02 | 15.3716 | [Right.] | 15.6831 |
19 | | 16.3344 | Right. | 16.6317 |
20 | DCB_int_01 | 17.5449 | And- and you- | 18.5642 |
22 | | 18.7666 | you were | 19.3329 |
24 | | 19.5453 | front and center. | 20.2691 |
25 | DCB_se3_ag4_m_02 | 20.2390 | I was. | 20.8620 |
26 | DCB_int_01 | 22.1857 | Talk to me. | 22.8299 |
28 | | 23.0069 | Can you tell me about that experience, like | 25.4603 |
30 | | 25.7718 | what did it mean to be | 27.0460 |
32 | | 27.2796 | a- Not even just a black male at that time, but | 29.9059 |
34 | | 30.1537 | just to witness all of that? Like | 31.7718 |
36 | | 32.0125 | this something that I read in my history books or | 34.6246 |
38 | | 34.9219 | if I- if I'm privileged to read it in my history books | 36.9790 |
40 | | 37.3329 | or I can hear about I d- But you got to live it. | 39.5717 |
41 | DCB_se3_ag4_m_02 | 40.6600 | Yes. And, | 41.8709 |
43 | | 42.3135 | you know, sometimes as you're going through things | 44.9540 |
45 | | 45.3433 | you don't appreciate | 46.6175 |
47 | | 46.9149 | the historical significance of it until- until much later. | 50.3027 |
49 | | 50.8195 | Um, | 51.3716 |
51 | | 51.6760 | <ts> what I remember, | 53.0989 |
53 | | 53.5307 | uh, | 54.0616 |
55 | | 54.2457 | about the- the riots when Doctor King was killed was | 57.6760 |
57 | | 58.1645 | that, uh, I was at school. | 59.5944 |
59 | | 60.5401 | And they | 61.7364 |
61 | | 62.2319 | c- | 62.3240 |
63 | | 62.6496 | I got called to the principal's office. | 64.3485 |
65 | | 65.0281 | And I thought (whispering) | 65.6794 |
67 | | 66.4905 | what have I done? | 67.3966 |
69 | | 68.7983 | Um, I said I haven't done anything. Why are they calling me to the principal's office? | 72.2315 |
71 | | 72.7595 | And, so, they- they- they called me into the principal's office, and they- | 76.1857 |
73 | | 76.8582 | they- they said, um, | 78.2457 |
75 | | 78.6958 | <ts> /RD-NAME-1/, we've- | 79.5736 |
77 | | 80.4514 | th- they're having riots downtown and- and, um, they've called out the National Guard, and | 84.8161 |
79 | | 85.4037 | it's- | 85.8638 |
81 | | 86.0054 | they're burning buildings and | 87.3716 |
83 | | 87.9450 | all kinds of things are going on. | 89.1343 |
85 | | 89.5844 | And, of course, we didn't have | 90.9648 |
87 | | 91.1630 | ready access | 92.5293 |
89 | | 92.7558 | to the media and the TVs and all that kind of information like we do now, | 97.0498 |
91 | | 97.3754 | so I didn't know. | 98.1753 |
93 | | 98.8620 | And, um, they- | 100.1503 |
95 | | 100.2990 | they | 100.5798 |
97 | | 100.7084 | told me that they had arranged for | 103.3541 |
99 | | 103.8921 | all of the | 104.7770 |
101 | | 105.0035 | black students to go home with either | 107.2617 |
103 | | 107.6015 | faculty members or other students, | 109.5878 |
105 | | 109.9346 | so that you wouldn't have to go down | 111.3292 |
107 | | 111.8035 | and be in- | 112.4972 |
109 | | 112.7804 | in the city and be | 113.8988 |
111 | | 115.4179 | near the- | 115.9025 |
113 | | 116.6496 | the riots and | 117.3858 |
115 | | 117.7893 | that sort of thing. I said, well, | 118.8865 |
117 | | 119.8564 | that's not- | 120.3944 |
119 | | 120.8020 | Thank you, but that's not necessary. | 122.6779 |
121 | | 123.2938 | There were only | 123.9734 |
123 | | 126.4622 | I think two students who lived | 128.0337 |
125 | | 128.9965 | anywhere near where the- the- | 130.3556 |
127 | | 130.7662 | the rioting was taking place. Most of us lived | 132.9648 |
129 | | 133.4108 | towards the outer edge of the city, | 134.7629 |
131 | | 135.0672 | and most of us lived fairly close together. | 136.6459 |
133 | | 137.2971 | So | 138.0829 |
135 | | 138.4976 | I | 138.8869 |
137 | | 139.5453 | just told 'em, I said I- I can take everybody home. | 141.8601 |
139 | | 142.1220 | I- That's fine. I was driving at the time. | 143.9767 |
141 | | 144.4510 | So (laughing) I piled everybody in my car, | 146.4726 |
143 | | 146.8903 | and, um, | 147.9167 |
145 | | 148.2777 | one young lady- one student- female student who lived | 150.3306 |
147 | | 150.7170 | sort of close to the area, | 152.0550 |
149 | | 152.3664 | she went home with an- another one of the black female students. | 155.2263 |
151 | | 155.6298 | And, um, | 156.7949 |
153 | | 157.0214 | I was able to drop everybody else off, and | 158.8478 |
155 | | 159.1734 | we all went home, got home safely. | 160.7662 |
157 | | 161.2546 | Um, it was a time when there was a- | 162.7500 |
159 | | 163.1973 | Thereafter was a curfew in the city so | 165.1380 |
161 | | 165.5132 | you couldn't be out after a certain hour and | 167.5874 |
163 | | 167.8917 | that sort of thing and that was a little | 169.2904 |
165 | | 169.4603 | hair-raising. | 170.2245 |
167 | | 170.7770 | Um, | 171.5132 |
169 | | 172.3415 | <ts> | 172.4406 |
171 | | 172.9007 | <exhale> | 173.2192 |
173 | | 173.8493 | I- I- I didn't truly appreciate | 175.8709 |
175 | | 176.1470 | all of the rest of what was going on | 177.9450 |
177 | | 178.3698 | at- immediately. | 179.2971 |
179 | | 179.6794 | Certainly | 180.6775 |
181 | | 181.7200 | when everything died down, | 183.1543 |
183 | | 183.8530 | and the curfews were lifted and people were trying to return | 187.3471 |
185 | | 187.7576 | to something of a normal life, | 189.4212 |
187 | | 190.4052 | coming back in town and being close to the areas | 193.2904 |
189 | | 193.8001 | that had been hardest hit | 195.4707 |
191 | | 195.8530 | by the riots | 196.7733 |
193 | | 197.4316 | was very very sobering. | 199.1114 |
195 | | 199.4957 | So, | 200.1895 |
197 | | 200.6425 | um, | 201.1593 |
199 | | 202.0371 | my family attended church | 203.8847 |
201 | | 204.4905 | at Sixth and M Street, right up- | 206.0408 |
203 | | 206.1895 | right up the street. | 207.1026 |
205 | | 207.7256 | And, | 208.7662 |
207 | | 209.4104 | uh, right around the corner was Seventh Street | 211.6939 |
209 | | 212.1116 | and parts of Seventh Street that were | 214.2494 |
211 | | 215.4033 | devastated by the- | 216.5755 |
213 | | 216.8374 | by the riots and what went on. | 218.6213 |
215 | | 219.2442 | And so, | 220.2282 |
217 | | 220.5963 | um, some of the places- | 222.4581 |
219 | | 223.0781 | many of the places that we were familiar with, | 225.3350 |
221 | | 225.6831 | and particularly the kids were familiar with because | 228.0900 |
223 | | 228.5047 | when church was- Sunday School was over with, we'd go around the corner and- | 231.2230 |
225 | | 231.7610 | and go to the store or something like that, | 233.6298 |
227 | | 234.1537 | those places were gone. | 235.2480 |
229 | | 236.2603 | Um, | 237.0956 |
231 | | 237.9875 | U Street was | 239.2900 |
233 | | 239.4458 | decimated. | 240.1447 |
235 | | 240.6463 | And, um, | 242.2249 |
237 | | 242.7983 | it was a- a place where | 244.9502 |
239 | | 245.9696 | on the weekends | 247.0285 |
241 | | 247.2267 | I'd take a date and go to the movies. | 249.2159 |
243 | | 249.6619 | Um, | 250.4830 |
245 | | 251.1555 | and you'd have your sort of pick of- | 253.6373 |
247 | | 253.7860 | There were several movies all along U Street, | 255.5415 |
249 | | 255.9026 | and you had your pick of where you could go. | 257.5024 |
251 | | 257.9838 | And all that was gone. | 259.1630 |
253 | | 259.5878 | Um, | 260.1328 |
255 | | 260.4655 | the places to eat, | 261.4070 |
257 | | 261.7893 | um, | 262.4264 |
259 | | 262.7591 | places that were, | 263.7502 |
261 | | 263.9271 | you know, familiar. | 264.8515 |
263 | | 265.3895 | All- all of that- | 266.2107 |
265 | | 266.4797 | all of that changed, um, | 267.9450 |
267 | | 268.4476 | and so there was just | 269.6440 |
269 | | 270.3631 | i- | 270.7029 |
271 | | 270.9931 | a- a lot of- | 272.4726 |
273 | | 273.3221 | a lot of devastation. | 274.9573 |
275 | | 275.2830 | Um, | 275.7643 |
277 | | 276.1183 | and a lot of- | 276.8576 |
279 | | 277.6727 | a lot of- a lot of change. | 279.3575 |
281 | | 279.5982 | But then | 280.3273 |
283 | | 282.2740 | there was a lot of opportunity | 283.8638 |
285 | | 285.6052 | to- | 286.3896 |
287 | | 286.5231 | to do some things. And so, | 287.9838 |
289 | | 288.6109 | um, | 289.0781 |
291 | | 289.7081 | <ts> | 289.8355 |
293 | | 290.1753 | out of the rubble, | 291.2584 |
295 | | 291.7468 | you started to see things- other- so- some good things start to happen | 295.0344 |
296 | DCB_int_01 | 296.6779 | Like what? | 297.0787 |
297 | DCB_se3_ag4_m_02 | 297.6760 | Um, | 298.1362 |
299 | | 300.2668 | more local control. | 301.3541 |
301 | | 302.0196 | More- more f- | 302.9894 |
303 | | 303.1380 | more focus on, | 304.8157 |
305 | | 305.2688 | um, | 306.1395 |
307 | | 307.1276 | the need for jobs, job training, | 309.2725 |
309 | | 309.6194 | uh, the creation of other opportunities for- for- for people | 312.8657 |
311 | | 313.2904 | whose, um- | 314.3664 |
313 | | 315.1664 | for whom the- the- | 316.1645 |
315 | | 316.7591 | the- | 317.1131 |
317 | | 317.7219 | the riots in many respects were | 319.2409 |
319 | | 319.7081 | um, | 320.3027 |
321 | | 320.7629 | a venting of | 321.6902 |
323 | | 321.9238 | years and years of frustration. | 323.3891 |
325 | | 323.8888 | Um, | 324.3489 |
327 | | 324.5471 | and that's not an excuse, | 325.8497 |
329 | | 326.3806 | but | 326.8974 |
331 | | 327.5557 | it- it kind of puts it in context. | 329.8393 |
333 | | 330.4622 | Um, | 331.0781 |
335 | | 332.0337 | and so, | 332.8549 |
337 | | 333.2371 | um, | 333.6831 |
339 | | 334.0300 | the- the- the- | 334.7662 |
341 | | 335.3113 | you started to see | 336.3306 |
343 | | 337.0144 | certainly the Federal Government | 338.1187 |
345 | | 338.3877 | start to invest | 339.4566 |
347 | | 340.1008 | money in- in- in programs and services in the city, | 342.9790 |
349 | | 343.5382 | and some- some things start to- | 345.3858 |
351 | | 346.1574 | start to happen politically. Now I missed out on a lot of that | 348.7595 |
353 | | 349.0639 | because by that time when things started to really change, | 351.4920 |
355 | | 351.8035 | I've gone and I'm now away at college and in- I'm in New Jersey. | 355.9488 |
357 | | 356.4160 | And it's, um, | 357.5345 |
359 | | 357.8247 | a completely different world and | 359.0847 |
361 | | 359.6157 | my time here in DC, | 361.5382 |
363 | | 362.0479 | starts to become | 362.9469 |
365 | | 363.2442 | much more limited. | 364.1149 |
367 | | 364.4476 | I come home | 365.2971 |
369 | | 365.9555 | for the- | 366.5501 |
371 | | 366.9294 | o- occasionally on the weekend. | 368.1682 |
373 | | 368.6921 | Um, | 369.3150 |
375 | | 369.6902 | o- occasionally for the- | 371.2192 |
377 | | 371.8422 | the- I- | 372.2528 |
379 | | 372.5047 | Thanksgiving and- and Christmas but only | 374.6284 |
381 | | 374.9823 | for a brief period because | 376.3556 |
383 | | 376.8511 | that's basketball season. We're | 378.3731 |
385 | | 378.5542 | playing or in training, | 379.7718 |
387 | | 380.2815 | and so | 381.1947 |
389 | | 381.4212 | I'm not able to spend a lot of time. | 382.8724 |
391 | | 383.1414 | I'm going- | 383.7006 |
393 | | 384.2569 | I'm going back, and so | 385.6585 |
395 | | 386.2178 | I don't really get into, | 388.1503 |
397 | | 388.9715 | um, | 389.3962 |
399 | | 389.5307 | all that's going on here. | 390.8374 |