Line | Speaker | St Time | Content | En Time |
1 | DTA_int_02 | 0.7322 | Um, | 1.0533 |
3 | | 1.1910 | what kind of games do the kids play around here? | 3.0471 |
4 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 4.2307 | Uh, horseshoe, | 5.5267 |
6 | | 5.6835 | baseball, | 6.6985 |
8 | | 9.8453 | and I guess just regular games. | 11.7552 |
9 | DTA_int_02 | 13.5855 | How do they play horseshoes? | 14.3706 |
10 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 15.1209 | In the backyard, | 16.2368 |
11 | DTA_int_02 | 16.3408 | Mm-hm. | 16.5733 |
12 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 16.9495 | with horseshoes. | 17.9037 |
13 | DTA_int_02 | 18.3564 | Regular, um. | 19.0992 |
14 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 19.2154 | Regular horseshoes. They get them from the recreation center. | 22.1451 |
15 | DTA_int_02 | 22.3408 | Mm-hm. | 22.5488 |
16 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 22.8608 | They loan them to, uh, | 24.1851 |
18 | | 24.6194 | the boys and- for a couple of days and they have to return them. | 27.1697 |
19 | DTA_int_02 | 27.3136 | Mm-hm. | 27.5414 |
21 | | 28.0961 | How do you, uh- | 28.7935 |
23 | | 28.9158 | how do you keep score in it? | 29.8242 |
24 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 30.7536 | Oh, I'm not sure. I never play with ['em.] | 32.7673 |
25 | DTA_int_02 | 32.6162 | [Mm-hm.] | 32.8383 |
26 | | 34.2338 | What did you play when you were a- | 35.3257 |
28 | | 35.8609 | a girl? | 36.1759 |
29 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 39.2153 | It's been so long [ago.] | 40.6286 |
30 | DTA_int_02 | 40.5335 | [<laugh>] | 40.9311 |
31 | | 41.0994 | [/Wonder what/ /inaudible/.] | 41.7477 |
32 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 41.4021 | [At /unintelligible/] fourteen or fifteen I can't [remember] | 44.4847 |
33 | DTA_int_02 | 44.2247 | [Yeah.] | 44.4205 |
34 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 44.6774 | [too much] of it. | 45.4481 |
35 | DTA_int_02 | 44.7080 | Mm-hm. | 44.8823 |
36 | | 45.6098 | Mm-hm. | 45.8178 |
37 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 46.2246 | Swimming. Uh, yeah, we- I was raised in Highland Park High, so | 49.7928 |
39 | | 50.5612 | swimming and | 51.4377 |
41 | | 52.8118 | the usual. | 53.5061 |
42 | DTA_int_02 | 53.7477 | Mm-hm. | 53.9985 |
43 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 54.1392 | I imagine. | 55.1756 |
44 | DTA_int_02 | 55.3255 | Mm-hm. | 55.5885 |
46 | | 57.1281 | Do you- uh, | 57.6832 |
48 | | 58.2429 | do you watch television at all? | 59.1911 |
49 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 59.6651 | [Yes.] | 60.1300 |
50 | DTA_int_02 | 60.1117 | [What are] your favorite programs? | 61.0942 |
51 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 62.0443 | Mm, | 63.0505 |
53 | | 63.7107 | I watch the serials in the morning. | 65.8395 |
54 | DTA_int_02 | 66.0658 | Mm-hm. | 66.3472 |
55 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 66.4940 | FBI, or | 67.9586 |
57 | | 68.3929 | the movies. [Most of-] mostly the movies. | 70.8546 |
58 | DTA_int_02 | 69.3009 | [Mm-hm.] | 69.4925 |
59 | | 70.9464 | Hm. | 71.1655 |
61 | | 71.5856 | Have you seen any good movies lately that you can, uh, remember? | 74.1115 |
63 | | 76.3806 | You can tell me about. | 77.0810 |
64 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 79.6834 | Um, | 80.2400 |
66 | | 81.5028 | no I can't. | 82.6252 |
68 | | 82.9953 | Right through here, I can't even remember. | 84.9248 |
69 | DTA_int_02 | 85.1298 | Yeah. | 85.4050 |
71 | | 86.6437 | Uh, | 86.9618 |
73 | | 87.5154 | yeah, uh, what I'm- what I'm trying to do on this is, uh, | 90.0046 |
75 | | 90.7536 | just get you to describe something and talk about | 93.4294 |
77 | | 93.5731 | um, [/you know, explain/] about anything, about | 95.6376 |
78 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 93.8606 | [About it.] | 94.5212 |
79 | DTA_int_02 | 95.7538 | something. Describe a story or | 97.3033 |
81 | | 97.6711 | a book you've read or | 98.7924 |
83 | | 99.1239 | a movie you've seen or a TV | 100.7032 |
85 | | 101.2645 | series. What- what, uh? | 102.8545 |
86 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 103.6986 | Well it was a interesting one on Perry Mason. | 106.2980 |
87 | DTA_int_02 | 106.5121 | What happened? | 106.9923 |
88 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 108.7230 | Uh, | 109.3744 |
90 | | 110.6682 | the nurse was keeping, | 111.9982 |
92 | | 112.1603 | uh, | 112.6925 |
94 | | 112.8240 | an ill woman and the husband fell in love with her. | 115.9892 |
96 | | 117.0750 | And then she | 117.9615 |
98 | | 118.3133 | died, suddenly, and they found out that | 120.6985 |
100 | | 121.5212 | the wife was poisoned. | 123.0536 |
102 | | 123.2738 | And they thought the husband had did it | 125.1459 |
103 | DTA_int_02 | 125.3379 | Mm-hm. | 125.6101 |
104 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 125.9190 | to get to the nurse. | 127.0205 |
106 | | 127.6711 | But then they found out that the nurse was ill herself. | 130.9959 |
108 | | 131.7383 | That she started nursing at an early age because her sister who raised her | 136.0772 |
110 | | 136.8730 | was sick. And she was ill for about five years and she died. | 141.0046 |
111 | DTA_int_02 | 141.0046 | Mm-hm. | 141.3013 |
112 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 141.9829 | And, um, | 142.8210 |
114 | | 143.0748 | <ts> she made up her mind then she was gonna help the ones that were sick. | 146.3684 |
115 | DTA_int_02 | 146.5489 | Mm-hm. | 146.7936 |
116 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 147.3345 | And they checked back and the last three- three cases she had nursed, she had poisoned 'em. When they become so ill, she would, uh, | 153.7383 |
118 | | 155.3807 | like a mercy killing. | 156.6989 |
119 | DTA_int_02 | 156.8239 | Hm. | 156.9768 |
120 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 157.7224 | Then they had the husband in jail | 159.5643 |
122 | | 160.4325 | and the- | 160.9219 |
124 | | 161.1024 | the poison that she had used was just | 163.0528 |
126 | | 163.9678 | <ts> | 164.1146 |
128 | | 164.4296 | a regular, uh, | 165.4175 |
130 | | 165.9952 | f- garden | 167.0473 |
132 | | 167.1758 | poison forms. | 168.4420 |
134 | | 169.4784 | And things. | 170.2277 |
136 | | 170.3776 | And, uh, | 170.8517 |
138 | | 171.7077 | they found out that she had did this. | 173.4877 |
139 | DTA_int_02 | 173.6590 | Mm-hm. | 173.8884 |
140 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 174.8025 | And that was rather interesting. | 176.1176 |
141 | DTA_int_02 | 176.6376 | U- uh, | 176.9569 |
142 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 177.1575 | [In this-] | 177.6591 |
143 | DTA_int_02 | 177.2860 | [I wonder-] | 177.5371 |
144 | | 177.7658 | I wonder if this is real- | 178.6069 |
146 | | 178.7690 | true life, I wonder if this kind of thing [really happens.] | 180.5091 |
147 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 180.1270 | [this-] might. | 181.0497 |
148 | | 181.1970 | But I don't know, because she was like an upright [citizen. A nurse] and | 185.1176 |
149 | DTA_int_02 | 184.1132 | [Mm-hm.] | 184.3729 |
150 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 185.3868 | highly respected. | 186.5735 |
151 | DTA_int_02 | 186.6954 | And yet she [really.] | 187.3387 |
152 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 187.2888 | [And] they had her on the [stand.] | 189.1392 |
153 | DTA_int_02 | 189.0474 | [Mm-hm.] | 189.2615 |
154 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 189.5460 | And how they detected it | 190.9341 |
156 | | 191.5244 | is the lawyer was on the case, he had sprung- uh, hurt his leg or back or something, but he was on crutches. | 197.0289 |
158 | | 197.7599 | And they went to court. | 198.9095 |
160 | | 199.6130 | And, uh, he | 200.5249 |
162 | | 201.4664 | drove her home, and she doctored on him. | 203.9404 |
163 | DTA_int_02 | 203.9771 | Mm-hm. | 204.2368 |
164 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 204.4787 | And left some eggnog for him. | 206.6651 |
165 | DTA_int_02 | 206.6926 | Mm-hm. | 206.9373 |
166 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 206.9434 | And in this eggnog, she had some | 208.8087 |
168 | | 209.1023 | [poisoning.] | 209.7722 |
169 | DTA_int_02 | 209.7324 | [Mm-hm.] | 209.9281 |
170 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 210.3961 | When she was talking to him, rubbing his back, and he was just paying attention to what she was saying. | 214.6466 |
171 | DTA_int_02 | 214.8454 | Mm-hm. | 215.1085 |
172 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 215.8303 | Uh, about uh, | 217.1481 |
174 | | 218.0870 | her work | 218.7385 |
176 | | 219.1698 | and how they- usually her patient like- | 221.2644 |
178 | | 221.3776 | patients liked her because she would give 'em little | 223.5243 |
180 | | 223.7934 | special treats and [things. Do] little extras for 'em. | 226.9494 |
181 | DTA_int_02 | 225.5119 | [Mm-hm.] | 225.7586 |
182 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 227.7416 | And they | 228.2279 |
184 | | 228.3716 | traced back and she had been feeding this woman | 230.6529 |
186 | | 231.0780 | this poisoning in this eggnog she'd give 'em every- | 233.6946 |
188 | | 233.9006 | her every evening. | 234.7208 |
190 | | 235.7292 | You see, | 236.1971 |
192 | | 236.5428 | and he was ill and she was so far gone, I suppose, | 239.6039 |
194 | | 239.9709 | that she had fixed him some eggnog the way | 241.9647 |
196 | | 242.2553 | that she fixed it for the other two- [three patients] | 244.5059 |
197 | DTA_int_02 | 243.7168 | [Hm.] | 243.8422 |
199 | | 244.0533 | [Mm-hm.] | 244.3580 |
200 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 244.7047 | with pois- poison. | 246.0138 |
202 | | 246.4328 | Mm-hm. | 246.8636 |
204 | | 247.4570 | <ts> And on the stand, she trapped herself. | 249.5528 |
205 | DTA_int_02 | 250.1052 | And that was it. | 250.6422 |
206 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 251.0228 | Mm-hm. | 251.4479 |
207 | DTA_int_02 | 252.0841 | Um, | 252.4909 |
209 | | 254.3990 | what do you think about mercy killings? Do you think there should be a place for this in our- | 257.8150 |
211 | | 258.6098 | in our | 258.9958 |
213 | | 259.1328 | country? | 259.5181 |
214 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 260.0075 | <ts> I don't think so because, uh, | 261.9126 |
216 | | 263.0320 | I think before I | 264.3135 |
218 | | 264.6403 | felt like | 265.1786 |
220 | | 265.7628 | rather than see someone suffer, | 267.5826 |
221 | DTA_int_02 | 267.7688 | Mm-hm. | 268.0196 |
222 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 268.6925 | that | 268.9341 |
224 | | 269.2002 | maybe it would be better. | 270.3747 |
226 | | 271.0012 | But, uh, | 271.6160 |
228 | | 271.9157 | nothing's for sure. You never know. [And there was] a letter- | 275.0259 |
229 | DTA_int_02 | 273.9370 | [/unintelligible/] | 274.5616 |
230 | | 275.1665 | [Mm-hm.] | 275.3915 |
231 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 275.3439 | [there] was a lady that was ill for | 277.2796 |
232 | | 277.7965 | a period of time, and she had cancer. | 279.6709 |
233 | DTA_int_02 | 279.7382 | Mm-hm. | 279.9707 |
234 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 280.3224 | And, uh, | 281.0136 |
236 | | 281.4418 | her family had been sitting up with her for two or three nights, expecting her to live- to die. | 286.2867 |
237 | DTA_int_02 | 286.2857 | Mm-hm. | 286.5672 |
238 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 286.9586 | And all of sudden she got better. And she lived three years after that. | 290.2124 |
239 | DTA_int_02 | 291.0627 | And she was so close to going. | 292.2399 |
240 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 292.4784 | Mm-hm. And the- and then these- | 293.6838 |
242 | | 293.7966 | those- these three years, she was out in the street working and doing anything anyone else was doing. She was a little thin, | 298.9983 |
243 | DTA_int_02 | 299.1023 | Mm-hm. | 299.3623 |
244 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 300.2493 | and she finally died from a heart attack. | 302.3500 |
246 | | 303.1544 | So you see, you can't | 304.2367 |
248 | | 304.4019 | say for sure. That's. | 306.1164 |
249 | DTA_int_02 | 307.5609 | Uh-huh, yeah and even- | 308.4479 |
251 | | 308.6406 | even, | 309.0749 |
253 | | 309.5333 | some people are suffering so much they wanna- | 311.1604 |
255 | | 311.3259 | they wanna- | 311.8027 |
256 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 311.8608 | Die. You hate to see them suffer, [though.] It's harder, I think, on the family | 316.2031 |
257 | DTA_int_02 | 313.8729 | [mm-hm.] | 314.1665 |
258 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 317.0014 | than on the person that's going through these changes, because I imagine that they're so doped they don't really feel it. | 322.2367 |
259 | DTA_int_02 | 323.6987 | Yeah. | 323.9220 |
260 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 324.4052 | But, we don't have that right. | 325.9310 |
261 | DTA_int_02 | 326.1788 | No, I- I | 326.9250 |
262 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 327.0657 | I don't think we have [that right.] | 328.4111 |
263 | DTA_int_02 | 327.8300 | [don't think so.] | 328.3190 |
264 | | 329.3347 | I guess the laws are pretty- | 330.5673 |
266 | | 330.7718 | pretty strong on that too. | 331.7506 |
267 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 332.2583 | They should be. | 333.0504 |
269 | | 334.1725 | Because our- can you imagine if they didn't- if they weren't strict. | 337.3744 |
271 | | 338.5855 | How, uh, | 339.2187 |
273 | | 339.9510 | even with what's going on and everything, I imagine there would one or [two or three like] that, so. | 345.2431 |
274 | DTA_int_02 | 343.6162 | [/unintelligible/] | 344.6486 |
275 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 345.8422 | We | 346.0930 |
277 | | 346.2245 | couldn't allow that | 347.0793 |
278 | DTA_int_02 | 347.3623 | Right. | 347.6375 |
280 | | 350.4968 | Do you have any, uh, | 351.3960 |
282 | | 351.8208 | animals here? Any pets? | 352.8821 |
283 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 353.2522 | Oh, yes. We have a dog. | 354.7867 |
284 | DTA_int_02 | 354.9156 | What kind of a dog? What's it like? | 356.1145 |
285 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 356.5060 | German Shepherd. | 357.5520 |
287 | | 358.1633 | <ts> | 358.3040 |
289 | | 358.8393 | And, uh, | 359.6070 |
291 | | 360.0076 | most people say he vicious, | 361.6863 |
293 | | 362.3072 | but I feed him out of my hand. | 364.0585 |
295 | | 365.3439 | And | 365.9893 |
297 | | 366.2187 | he's a wonderful dog. | 367.3315 |
298 | DTA_int_02 | 367.4753 | Mm-hm. | 367.7169 |
299 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 368.1665 | He's a wonderful watch dog. | 369.6587 |
300 | DTA_int_02 | 369.6709 | Mm-hm. | 369.9217 |
301 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 370.8484 | And there's no men here, my brother stay here sometime. | 374.1084 |
303 | | 374.7507 | And | 375.2095 |
305 | | 375.7994 | without him in the backyard, I think I would be afraid. But at night, | 379.5197 |
307 | | 380.0625 | if anyone's around the house, you know it. | 381.9920 |
308 | DTA_int_02 | 382.8668 | And he- he, uh- he watches out for you? | 384.7443 |
309 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 385.0685 | Mm-hm. Yes he [does.] | 386.3531 |
310 | DTA_int_02 | 386.1753 | [<ts> Well] it's good to have a dog that's, uh, | 387.7504 |
311 | | 388.5456 | vicious like that. | 389.3133 |
312 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 389.5005 | Mm-hm. <ts> And, uh, | 390.8942 |
314 | | 391.5701 | people, you know, I guess | 392.8822 |
316 | | 393.3410 | they have different opinions about the dog, but he's really- | 396.2401 |
318 | | 397.5181 | he really comes in handy. | 398.9373 |
319 | DTA_int_02 | 399.0107 | [Mm-hm.] | 399.2762 |
320 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 399.2217 | [You] know, because I feel /safeter/ myself with [him] out there in the back. | 402.7015 |
321 | DTA_int_02 | 401.3775 | [Mm-hm.] | 401.6895 |
322 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 402.8361 | With- especially in the summer | 404.2216 |
324 | | 404.5702 | with the screen and the windows open. | 406.4845 |
325 | DTA_int_02 | 406.5823 | Mm-hm. | 406.8912 |
326 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 407.2185 | [You know,] you never know. | 408.3471 |
327 | DTA_int_02 | 407.2674 | [Yeah.] | 407.4234 |
328 | | 410.6773 | Anything can happen these days. | 411.9064 |
329 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 412.1480 | Mm-hm. | 412.6139 |
330 | DTA_int_02 | 415.5212 | How do people talk about getting a wish? | 417.4817 |
332 | | 418.0196 | Um, | 418.3988 |
334 | | 420.0015 | I'm thinking along the lines of, uh, | 421.5487 |
336 | | 421.8025 | this is one of the silly questions, along the lines of a wishbone of a chicken. How does that work? | 425.6314 |
338 | | 427.1572 | What do children do on- | 428.0442 |
340 | | 428.1910 | with the wishbone of a chicken? | 429.3433 |
341 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 430.0379 | Oh, usually what do they do- close their eyes and make a wish, and the [one] with the longest end of the bone wish is supposed to come true. | 437.5060 |
342 | DTA_int_02 | 433.5762 | [Mm-hm.] | 433.8345 |
343 | | 437.6497 | Mm-hm. | 437.8914 |
344 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 438.3471 | I don't believe in that, but this is what they [do.] (laughing) | 440.6926 |
345 | DTA_int_02 | 440.1470 | [/unintelligible/-] | 440.6167 |
346 | | 440.8638 | r- /are there u/- are there any other things that the | 442.7720 |
348 | | 443.0595 | children talk about how you can get a wish? | 444.5789 |
350 | | 445.8025 | You know. | 446.1451 |
352 | | 446.3133 | uh, | 446.5458 |
353 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 447.7718 | [No, not] at our [house.] | 449.6283 |
354 | DTA_int_02 | 447.8250 | [/??/] | 448.2826 |
356 | | 449.3531 | [Mm-hm.] | 449.5794 |
357 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 453.0198 | We were taught- my mother's very religious, so we were always taught to pray for something. | 456.6344 |
358 | DTA_int_02 | 456.7320 | Mm-hm. | 456.9676 |
359 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 457.2826 | If you really wanted it. | 458.4265 |
361 | | 459.4052 | And whether you got it or not, | 460.8209 |
363 | | 462.5306 | this is the way you would- | 463.5456 |
365 | | 463.7169 | that your chances were better if you would pray. | 465.9186 |
366 | DTA_int_02 | 466.1419 | Mm-hm. | 466.3927 |
367 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 467.0319 | So I think | 467.9214 |
369 | | 468.7504 | with my children when they want something that I can't, say you better pray for it. | 472.8973 |
370 | DTA_int_02 | 472.9096 | Mm-hm. | 473.1665 |
371 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 473.6620 | You know, | 473.9464 |
373 | | 474.2247 | and usually maybe a little job or something. | 476.3011 |
375 | | 477.2584 | It comes about in strange ways, but this is usually what happen. | 480.4480 |
376 | DTA_int_02 | 481.1174 | What church does your mother belong to? | 482.5610 |
377 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 482.5610 | <ts> | 482.6711 |
378 | | 482.8852 | Uh, | 483.1666 |
380 | | 483.5489 | Church of God in Christ, | 484.7722 |
382 | | 484.8963 | Caniff and Dequindre. | 485.9250 |
383 | DTA_int_02 | 486.1330 | Mm-hm. | 486.3777 |
385 | | 489.1758 | Um, | 489.5705 |
387 | | 490.6771 | do you remember back in school what subjects you studied and, | 493.0193 |
389 | | 493.5823 | uh, | 493.8464 |
391 | | 495.3501 | the courses you took? | 496.1663 |
392 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 497.2307 | No, I can't. | 498.2951 |
394 | | 501.3004 | It would be such a job for me to try and figure that far back. | 504.4592 |
395 | DTA_int_02 | 505.0929 | Well how about the kids, what are they studying in school? | 506.9529 |
396 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 510.2156 | Oh, well I imagine t- to a point they have to su- study certain subjects. | 514.2245 |
397 | DTA_int_02 | 514.7169 | Mm-hm. | 514.9955 |
398 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 515.1328 | When the older ones, let's see- | 516.6831 |
400 | | 517.2092 | I've got three to graduate, three out of four. | 519.8697 |
401 | DTA_int_02 | 519.9981 | Mm-hm. | 520.2703 |
402 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 520.9585 | And so they would take typing, | 522.8666 |
404 | | 523.9738 | short hand, | 524.9171 |
406 | | 527.6375 | and, oh I suppose general math. | 530.2510 |
408 | | 531.1636 | That's about it I guess. | 532.0528 |
409 | DTA_int_02 | 532.3223 | Mm-hm. | 532.5356 |
411 | | 533.8638 | What types of things are in a classroom? The furniture and | 536.5151 |
413 | | 536.7476 | things on the walls. What- what would be in the classroom? | 538.6496 |
414 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 539.8577 | I imagine would, uh, | 541.2459 |
416 | | 542.1389 | well different classes would have different things, like, uh, | 545.0932 |
417 | DTA_int_02 | 545.5060 | How [about just /?/-] | 546.1572 |
418 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 545.7048 | [science] would have a- | 547.2795 |
419 | | 547.6710 | a globe, or | 548.8149 |
421 | | 549.7687 | desk | 550.3129 |
423 | | 551.0625 | for the teacher. | 551.8057 |
424 | DTA_int_02 | 553.0990 | How about just a regular classroom where you have | 554.9158 |
426 | | 555.2645 | rows of- | 555.8054 |
428 | | 555.9216 | uh, | 556.1541 |
430 | | 556.4018 | uh, all the kids sit in rows and what- what's in here? | 558.7616 |
431 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 559.9116 | Well dictionary, books. | 561.7075 |
432 | DTA_int_02 | 563.4478 | Mm-hm. | 563.8004 |
433 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 565.3284 | Mm, someone else is in the house. | 566.8341 |
434 | DTA_int_02 | 568.9921 | What do the kids sit at? | 569.8164 |
435 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 571.2520 | At the desks. | 572.2307 |
436 | DTA_int_02 | 573.8391 | And what do they write, uh, | 575.3133 |
438 | | 575.4601 | on the- | 575.7965 |
440 | | 576.1631 | /when they w/- | 576.5760 |
442 | | 576.7778 | what's on the wall that they can write on? | 578.1481 |
443 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 578.9861 | A blackboard. | 579.9889 |
444 | DTA_int_02 | 586.6373 | You tell me if you want me to shut this [whenever.] | 588.0654 |
445 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 587.7904 | [Mm-hm.] | 588.0647 |
446 | DTA_int_02 | 589.9585 | You can talk, that's [okay. /inaudible/.] | 591.2671 |
447 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 590.7122 | [Yeah, they're going] to- uh, my daughter's friend, they probably have a record. | 593.9433 |
448 | | 594.4510 | She's got a bag, she's got a record. She's going to basement to play it. | 597.3746 |
449 | DTA_int_02 | 597.5489 | [Oh, that's nice.] | 598.1875 |
450 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 597.6219 | [<laugh>] | 597.9920 |
451 | | 598.8784 | It's what they're doing. | 599.7078 |
452 | DTA_int_02 | 599.9892 | Now you can- you can talk, y- I mean, [just- just] feel free it won't hurt [to-] | 602.6583 |
453 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 601.1266 | [Mm-hm.] | 601.4313 |
455 | | 602.5029 | [<ts> Oh, I understand then.] | 603.4816 |
456 | DTA_int_02 | 602.9006 | [to get any kind of talking.] | 603.8500 |
457 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 603.6892 | [Yes,] but that is one of my daughter's friends. | 605.9444 |
458 | | 606.5561 | She | 606.8176 |
460 | | 608.0869 | just have a record and she's going to the basement to play it. With he record she- | 611.4608 |
462 | | 611.9036 | excuse- /RD-NAME-2/ just walked out. | 613.5884 |
464 | | 615.4113 | /RD-NAME-2/, she just walked out a few minutes ago. | 617.5852 |
466 | | 622.0011 | She might be down at your house. | 623.5793 |
468 | | 623.8301 | She just walked out. | 624.7656 |
470 | | 626.4172 | [Um.] | 626.7781 |
471 | DTA_int_02 | 628.4660 | /You never/. | 628.8075 |
473 | | 629.6680 | Um, | 629.9158 |
475 | | 630.3236 | you walk outside the classroom and what's- what's- | 632.4351 |
477 | | 632.6589 | you walk into a? | 633.5340 |
478 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 633.7289 | <ts> Hall. | 634.4385 |
479 | DTA_int_02 | 634.5639 | What would be in the hall? | 635.4071 |
481 | | 635.8454 | [/?/.] | 636.2199 |
482 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 636.0809 | [Well] | 636.5764 |
483 | | 637.4905 | pupils going up and down the hall. <laugh> | 639.8543 |
484 | DTA_int_02 | 640.1449 | Would there be some place they'd hang their coats, [or?] | 642.5077 |
485 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 642.2522 | [Oh] there would be lockers | 643.7597 |
486 | | 644.0196 | for that. | 644.7641 |
488 | | 645.6464 | Wouldn't be just in the hall, they would have lockers. | 648.1390 |
489 | DTA_int_02 | 649.1112 | Some place to get something to drink? | 650.6481 |
490 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 651.2675 | Uh, there's a fountain. | 653.1149 |
492 | | 653.4845 | Water. | 654.0656 |
493 | DTA_int_02 | 655.5150 | And [how about if they're going upstairs] or downstairs, what would they? | 658.1021 |
494 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 655.7413 | [In the hall.] | 656.4364 |
495 | | 658.5517 | It would be a stairway for upstairs and other classroom. | 662.0930 |
496 | DTA_int_02 | 664.0868 | What's outside the- uh, | 665.2765 |
498 | | 665.7078 | the school building? | 666.5917 |
500 | | 667.2275 | For the kids? | 667.7229 |
501 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 668.9678 | Usually in the back there's a playground. | 670.9952 |
503 | | 671.6191 | [Or] to the side. | 672.8299 |
504 | DTA_int_02 | 671.6374 | [What-] | 671.8210 |
505 | | 673.5639 | what types of things do they have on the playground for the kids to- uh, | 675.9553 |
507 | | 676.2580 | to use? | 676.7021 |
508 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 677.8271 | Well in the | 678.8054 |
510 | | 679.6740 | intermediate, it would be swings | 681.7931 |
512 | | 683.1205 | and a slide. | 684.3164 |
514 | | 684.5428 | More than likely. | 685.3590 |
516 | | 686.0349 | And high school would just have a- | 688.1541 |
518 | | 688.9584 | the playground /cause you/ and, uh- | 691.0042 |
520 | | 691.3676 | for the boys. | 692.2154 |
522 | | 695.0135 | Something to put the basketball. | 696.7626 |
523 | DTA_int_02 | 696.8237 | [Mm-hm.] | 697.1418 |
524 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 697.1235 | [You] know. | 697.5333 |
525 | | 698.5182 | Like that, cause they usually play ball or basketball | 701.2092 |
527 | | 701.7598 | in high school. | 702.6192 |
528 | DTA_int_02 | 703.6801 | What would you call one of these things that goes like this, uh? | 705.8390 |
529 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 706.5914 | Seesaw. | 707.2582 |
531 | | 707.6925 | Teeter totter or seesaw. [/And uh/.] | 709.5027 |
532 | DTA_int_02 | 709.1326 | [Yeah.] | 709.3532 |
533 | | 709.7841 | You know. | 710.0869 |
535 | | 710.5640 | And how about, um, | 711.5275 |
537 | | 712.1540 | these bars that the kids climb on, what do you call that? | 714.2522 |
538 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 714.7626 | Well I think they call 'em monkey [bars, didn't they?] | 717.2522 |
539 | DTA_int_02 | 716.6374 | [Yes, that's what everybody] calls them. | 717.7901 |
540 | | 718.6159 | What do the kids do after school when- when school is out during the year? | 721.2775 |
542 | | 721.9008 | When they come home? | 722.5199 |
543 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 723.5856 | Well y- | 723.9614 |
545 | | 724.3895 | my children when they come home change clothes, and | 727.2274 |
547 | | 728.0013 | empty the garbage or trash, | 730.0042 |
549 | | 730.9493 | check their beds, | 732.2797 |
551 | | 734.2673 | and then they go to the park and play. | 736.6159 |
553 | | 736.7994 | Or take their bikes out and ride. | 738.7289 |
555 | | 738.9216 | One son rides a bike, the other | 741.0870 |
557 | | 741.8818 | goes and play ball. | 743.1067 |
559 | | 744.1513 | Or whatever they're playing at the playground. | 746.0869 |
561 | | 746.9157 | And the one that rides the bike like to swim, | 749.0716 |
563 | | 749.2001 | [he don't] play ball. | 750.2000 |
564 | DTA_int_02 | 749.2001 | [Mm-hm.] | 749.4555 |
565 | | 750.3684 | Mm-hm. | 750.5886 |
567 | | 752.8454 | Where does he swim? | 753.4041 |
568 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 754.0286 | At Pershing High. | 754.8855 |
569 | DTA_int_02 | 756.9032 | Did you ever have a teacher, | 758.2245 |
571 | | 758.4692 | uh, | 758.8607 |
573 | | 759.0566 | who hollered a lot? | 759.7136 |
574 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 761.7445 | Yes. | 762.3917 |
575 | DTA_int_02 | 763.0806 | What about? | 763.5883 |
576 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 765.2338 | Oh most anything. If you were late, if you wasn't paying attention. | 769.1029 |
578 | | 771.7018 | Any number of things. Anything she was displeased with she'd holler. | 775.1938 |
579 | DTA_int_02 | 776.3163 | Were you ever yelled at? | 777.0992 |
580 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 779.2887 | <ts> Sometime, yes. | 780.4510 |
581 | DTA_int_02 | 781.8605 | Was it your fault? | 782.5824 |
582 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 784.3987 | More than likely. | 785.3530 |
583 | DTA_int_02 | 785.3836 | [<laugh>] | 786.3109 |
584 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 785.7659 | [<laugh>] | 786.2828 |
585 | DTA_int_02 | 786.6280 | [/unintelligible/. | 787.4923 |
586 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 786.7289 | [When I look up on it] now, more than [likely.] | 788.6649 |
587 | DTA_int_02 | 788.6313 | [Yeah.] | 788.8156 |
588 | | 793.4782 | Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had? | 795.0931 |
589 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 797.2520 | No, I can't remember any. | 798.9929 |
590 | DTA_int_02 | 800.4417 | Alright, | 800.8364 |
592 | | 801.0656 | do you | 801.4047 |
594 | | 801.5607 | remember having a teacher you just couldn't stand at all? | 803.5854 |
595 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 805.8483 | Yes, I can remember a teacher that seemed that we clashed all the [time.] | 809.8967 |
596 | DTA_int_02 | 809.7781 | [Mm-hm.] | 810.0350 |
597 | | 810.3684 | What was there- about? I mean, what would happen? | 812.2276 |
598 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 813.0595 | Um, | 813.6952 |
600 | | 814.7229 | <ts> then shortly after this I think I would start skipping her class. | 818.6710 |
601 | DTA_int_02 | 818.6710 | Mm-hm. | 818.9341 |
602 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 819.8390 | Cause, uh, it was hard for me to get math. I can remember this. | 823.5792 |
604 | | 824.8056 | And it seemed to me that | 826.6281 |
606 | | 827.2123 | her patience was more or less short with me. | 829.4782 |
608 | | 829.9737 | And this was embarrassing. | 831.4597 |
609 | DTA_int_02 | 831.5087 | Mm-hm. | 831.7771 |
610 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 832.4813 | So rather than to go and ask her, | 834.4938 |
612 | | 835.8850 | I would find some excuse to get sick. | 837.7411 |
614 | | 838.1305 | This is before I got, uh. | 839.5915 |
615 | DTA_int_02 | 841.6734 | Mm-hm. | 841.8955 |
617 | | 842.0838 | That took care of that. | 843.0075 |
618 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 843.4964 | Mm-hm. | 844.1173 |
620 | | 844.2488 | <ts> I realize now it was my mistake, I was hurting myself. But as a child | 847.9859 |
622 | | 848.5793 | all you know that if, uh, | 849.9246 |
624 | | 851.7444 | rather than to them to be embarrassed, | 853.8024 |
626 | | 854.1908 | you know, if she didn't have patience so, uh, | 856.1968 |
628 | | 857.1022 | /or not/. Then that was just that. | 858.5397 |
629 | DTA_int_02 | 859.6036 | Did the kids ever play tricks on the teachers? | 861.3625 |
630 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 863.5487 | I can r- | 864.0778 |
632 | | 864.2124 | can't remember, uh, playing tricks, but I | 866.6221 |
634 | | 867.1084 | recall when she would go out the room that she- they would do mostly all the things that she said don't do. Like making noise or playing, horsing around. | 874.7229 |
635 | DTA_int_02 | 878.7903 | Do you remember, uh, | 879.9766 |
637 | | 881.0318 | who the smarter kids were in the class? | 882.5745 |
638 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 883.1754 | Hm, <ts> /RD-NAME-3/ was one. | 885.0258 |
639 | DTA_int_02 | 885.9888 | [What did he] do that was- uh, was so good? | 887.9830 |
640 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 886.0378 | [<ts> /?/] | 886.4537 |
641 | | 888.8481 | Oh, math | 889.6831 |
643 | | 890.3071 | and | 891.1065 |
645 | | 892.0194 | I was poor in math. | 893.1603 |
646 | DTA_int_02 | 893.2765 | [Mm-hm.] | 893.5395 |
647 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 893.5120 | [That's] why I think math sticks out. | 895.0194 |
648 | DTA_int_02 | 895.1815 | Mm-hm. | 895.4660 |
649 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 896.0287 | And, uh, | 896.7383 |
651 | | 897.3042 | if we had a test he was real, you know, [quick.] | 900.0533 |
652 | DTA_int_02 | 899.8821 | [Mkay.] | 900.3257 |
653 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 900.5331 | Mm-hm. | 900.9124 |
655 | | 902.0257 | And, uh, | 902.6160 |
657 | | 902.7505 | I can remember that. | 904.0439 |
658 | DTA_int_02 | 905.2887 | Did the smarter kids have any special rewards or favors, or anything like that? | 908.3508 |
659 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 908.7200 | Not that I can recall. | 910.1265 |
660 | DTA_int_02 | 911.9983 | [Mm-hm.] | 912.1951 |
661 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 912.0350 | [I don't] remember | 913.0317 |
662 | | 913.3100 | that. | 913.8440 |
663 | DTA_int_02 | 914.8454 | How about the dumber kids, uh, | 916.2519 |
665 | | 916.4629 | did the teachers treat them any differently from the smarter ones? | 918.9093 |
666 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 920.3223 | It might have been because I was slow and I felt they did. | 923.0930 |
667 | DTA_int_02 | 923.2214 | Mm-hm. | 923.4967 |
668 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 924.0656 | [They wanted to] treat you s- | 925.1968 |
669 | DTA_int_02 | 924.0656 | [What would they do?] | 924.5937 |
670 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 926.3132 | uh, as I said | 927.4754 |
672 | | 927.8237 | felt as if they didn't wanna be bothered. | 929.7781 |
674 | | 929.9188 | [It might] have been my imagination. | 931.7768 |
675 | DTA_int_02 | 929.9555 | [Mm-hm.] | 930.2521 |
676 | | 931.8146 | [Mm-hm.] | 932.0729 |
677 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 931.9553 | [You] know, I'm not saying this was the case. | 933.8420 |
678 | DTA_int_02 | 933.8940 | Mm-hm. | 934.1295 |
679 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 934.6036 | But to me, uh, | 935.8943 |
681 | | 936.6192 | I didn't feel warm, I didn't feel like I could come and ask her. There were certain things she felt like you should know. | 941.8576 |
682 | DTA_int_02 | 942.0013 | Mm-hm. | 942.2888 |
683 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 942.5182 | And if you didn't, | 943.4615 |
684 | DTA_int_02 | 943.7443 | Mm-hm. | 943.9997 |
685 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 944.0501 | it was like, uh, oh, if you know this, then I don't wanna be so bothered. | 947.5854 |
686 | DTA_int_02 | 947.6313 | Mm-hm. | 947.8954 |
687 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 948.2277 | And then I would draw back. | 949.6923 |
688 | DTA_int_02 | 950.0593 | Mm-hm. | 950.2979 |
689 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 950.4967 | As a child, and just wouldn't say anything. | 952.4782 |
691 | | 952.9156 | And I can recall this /RD-NAME-3/, a lot of times I would come to him and asked him to explain different things. | 958.8789 |
693 | | 959.2612 | Cause he was an A student. | 960.8359 |
694 | DTA_int_02 | 961.1662 | Mm-hm. | 961.3987 |
695 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 961.5210 | And he would | 962.1908 |
696 | DTA_int_02 | 962.3040 | [He helped out.] | 962.8668 |
697 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 962.3866 | [sometime,] he w- | 963.1634 |
698 | | 963.4418 | help me out sometime, and I knew that I wouldn't hear anything else about it, asking him. | 968.2245 |
700 | | 968.8239 | And there were tests or something that I really wanted to get a try and felt like I should have | 973.2763 |
702 | | 974.0991 | known the answers, and I didn't. | 975.6589 |
704 | | 975.9307 | And I would maybe come to him, and he'd help. | 978.1879 |
705 | DTA_int_02 | 984.4265 | What | 984.7074 |
707 | | 984.8481 | time would you say it was the, um, | 986.5395 |
709 | | 986.8912 | the- | 987.1279 |
711 | | 987.3334 | the long hand | 988.3297 |
713 | | 988.7351 | was | 989.2634 |
715 | | 989.6037 | in the nine over here. | 990.5335 |
717 | | 994.8636 | Quarter? | 995.3070 |
718 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 997.3925 | It's a /?/. | 997.8905 |
719 | DTA_int_02 | 998.0532 | If the- | 998.5451 |
721 | | 998.8882 | if the s- the long one, | 1000.1410 |
723 | | 1000.3528 | the minute hand were | 1001.1572 |
725 | | 1001.4783 | over here at, uh- | 1002.3775 |
726 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1003.1570 | Nine. | 1003.7782 |
727 | DTA_int_02 | 1004.5120 | at /the/ | 1004.9249 |
729 | | 1005.1909 | nine, and- | 1006.0592 |
730 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1006.7198 | Where would the small one be? | 1007.8423 |
731 | DTA_int_02 | 1008.1053 | the small one. Well | 1009.0664 |
733 | | 1009.4873 | almost on the three. | 1010.5497 |
735 | | 1011.0778 | Say it was? | 1011.6883 |
736 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1011.7380 | Quarter to three. | 1012.6647 |
737 | DTA_int_02 | 1012.8268 | Okay. | 1013.1358 |
739 | | 1013.3835 | Fine, that's what I wanted | 1014.2276 |
740 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1014.6830 | [Mm-hm.] | 1015.0777 |
741 | DTA_int_02 | 1014.7751 | [to know if-] | 1015.3057 |
742 | | 1015.4900 | uh. | 1015.7443 |
744 | | 1019.6832 | Was there a bunch of kids that you- you always used to hang around with? | 1022.2932 |
746 | | 1022.4557 | When we were in- uh, | 1023.4876 |
748 | | 1024.6831 | in school? | 1025.1518 |
749 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1026.8787 | Three or four. | 1027.7993 |
750 | DTA_int_02 | 1028.8606 | Were- | 1029.3286 |
752 | | 1029.5029 | were they, uh, | 1030.3895 |
754 | | 1031.0318 | all about your age? | 1031.8932 |
756 | | 1032.7166 | All about the same age? | 1033.5046 |
757 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1034.0042 | Some older. | 1034.7872 |
758 | DTA_int_02 | 1035.0808 | Mm-hm. | 1035.3592 |
760 | | 1037.5089 | Do you still have anything to do with any of | 1038.9001 |
762 | | 1039.6311 | these? | 1039.9002 |
763 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1040.0990 | No. | 1040.6505 |
765 | | 1041.7839 | Oh. | 1042.0074 |
766 | DTA_int_02 | 1043.4171 | Did any of the kids speak any other language besides, uh, | 1046.3762 |
768 | | 1047.0166 | English? Would they speak s- Polish or Spanish or anything like that? | 1049.6724 |
769 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1050.7992 | <ts> Oh yes, you would have friends that would speak, uh, | 1053.2671 |
770 | DTA_int_02 | 1053.2919 | In their [home, I mean.] | 1054.1448 |
771 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1053.4903 | [Polish.] | 1054.1234 |
772 | | 1054.2763 | Yeah, at home and sometime at school. You'd ask, how would you say this, and they would say. | 1058.5395 |
773 | DTA_int_02 | 1058.8300 | In Polish? | 1059.3880 |
774 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1059.4478 | Yeah, in Polish or | 1060.7289 |
775 | DTA_int_02 | 1061.3804 | What else [did they-] | 1061.9554 |
776 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1061.6801 | [Jewish or-] um, | 1063.2641 |
777 | DTA_int_02 | 1062.2744 | [Jewish.] | 1062.7533 |
778 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1063.4047 | cause in Highland Park it was mixed. | 1065.1573 |
779 | DTA_int_02 | 1065.2460 | Mm-hm. | 1065.5174 |
780 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1066.0163 | You see, so, uh, | 1066.9675 |
782 | | 1067.6985 | it wasn't- wasn't anything unusual for, uh, | 1070.2759 |
784 | | 1070.5456 | half of the group to be, | 1071.7166 |
786 | | 1071.9276 | you know, colored or white or [whatever. If] you were just | 1074.1328 |
787 | DTA_int_02 | 1073.3774 | [Mm-hm.] | 1073.6587 |
788 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1074.3024 | friends, you were friends. And so [a lot of times-] | 1076.3770 |
789 | DTA_int_02 | 1075.6800 | [Just didn't make any] difference [then.] | 1076.8360 |
790 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1076.7291 | [no.] I was never raised where it made any [difference.] | 1079.2428 |
791 | DTA_int_02 | 1078.7473 | [Yeah.] | 1079.0226 |
792 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1079.3773 | And | 1079.6985 |
794 | | 1080.1175 | if something, uh, | 1081.4659 |
796 | | 1082.9034 | you'd want to know how would you say this | 1084.9021 |
798 | | 1085.4049 | in, uh, | 1086.0594 |
800 | | 1086.4539 | [you know.] | 1086.9062 |
801 | DTA_int_02 | 1086.4566 | [Hm.] | 1086.6932 |
802 | | 1087.0744 | In Polish. | 1087.5363 |
803 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1087.5730 | Polish or whatever. | 1088.5731 |
805 | | 1088.8147 | They would tell [us.] | 1089.7167 |
806 | DTA_int_02 | 1089.6126 | [Mm-hm.] | 1089.8767 |
807 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1090.5301 | They try and, uh, teach it to you. And never- we never said it right, but [you would try. <laugh>] | 1095.3224 |
808 | DTA_int_02 | 1093.8972 | [Yeah.] | 1094.1149 |
810 | | 1094.2519 | [/inaudible/.] | 1094.9279 |
812 | | 1095.2179 | [Yeah.] | 1095.4570 |
813 | | 1096.5668 | Um, | 1096.8972 |
815 | | 1097.4538 | how about now? Do you- do you have | 1099.1947 |
817 | | 1099.3589 | white friends and, uh, has this continued, or- | 1101.7655 |
819 | | 1101.9612 | or? | 1102.4256 |
820 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1102.8574 | Mm, <ts> yes. | 1103.6373 |
821 | DTA_int_02 | 1104.1267 | [Yeah.] | 1104.4505 |
822 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1104.2884 | [Yeah s-] | 1105.1968 |
823 | DTA_int_02 | 1104.6860 | [Split up] after school? | 1105.7595 |
824 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1106.4324 | no. I- | 1107.6099 |
826 | | 1108.7534 | my closest neighbors is a mixed couple. | 1111.2946 |
828 | | 1111.5577 | [And I feel] more relaxed around them. He's white and she's colored. | 1114.8115 |
829 | DTA_int_02 | 1111.5974 | [Mm-hm.] | 1111.8849 |
830 | | 1114.9614 | Mm-hm. | 1115.2152 |
831 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1115.8086 | And, um, | 1116.8144 |
833 | | 1117.2732 | we go for rides and I think | 1119.1003 |
835 | | 1119.6890 | they appreciate it cause I never pay any attention to them. | 1122.5090 |
836 | DTA_int_02 | 1122.5916 | [Mm-hm.] | 1122.8909 |
837 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1122.7166 | [They're] just | 1123.3833 |
838 | | 1123.6035 | people. | 1124.1571 |
839 | DTA_int_02 | 1124.5180 | Do they have trouble because of this? | 1126.1417 |
840 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1126.2365 | Yes, they do. | 1127.1624 |
842 | | 1127.7352 | And, uh, | 1128.4570 |
844 | | 1129.1876 | I think they like to talk to me, cause he'll laugh | 1131.6939 |
846 | | 1131.8083 | and [she will] also about how s- still people will turn around and look, you know, and [stare. And this] uh, | 1138.1998 |
847 | DTA_int_02 | 1131.9979 | [Mm-hm.] | 1132.1982 |
849 | | 1136.4844 | [Yeah.] | 1136.8341 |
851 | | 1137.1022 | [Uh-huh.] | 1137.3469 |
852 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1139.0531 | it | 1139.2611 |
854 | | 1139.5829 | kind of bugs them a little [bit.] | 1140.9826 |
855 | DTA_int_02 | 1140.8817 | [I] imagine it would. | 1141.7289 |
856 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1141.7289 | Mm-hm. And they've adopted a l- mixed girl. | 1144.1906 |
857 | DTA_int_02 | 1144.1906 | Mm-hm. | 1144.5085 |
858 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1145.0317 | And even this is a case where it's still, uh, | 1147.4904 |
860 | | 1147.6310 | when she go to the store with him | 1149.3530 |
862 | | 1150.2579 | or- and a lot of times, he'll take me shopping. | 1153.0071 |
863 | DTA_int_02 | 1153.1050 | Mm-hm. | 1153.3590 |
864 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1153.3590 | And since I don't have a car, well, | 1154.6557 |
865 | | 1155.2276 | I- he's just like a- | 1156.6127 |
867 | | 1156.9491 | anyone else to me. | 1158.1573 |
868 | DTA_int_02 | 1158.3408 | Mm-hm. | 1158.5701 |
869 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1158.7288 | Where still you see people turn around and look. | 1160.5608 |
871 | | 1160.9646 | And we'll make a joke out of it. | 1162.3007 |
873 | | 1162.8237 | And it doesn't have anything to do but watch other people, huh? | 1165.1294 |
874 | DTA_int_02 | 1165.1600 | Yeah. | 1165.3130 |
875 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1165.9858 | So, | 1166.4060 |
877 | | 1166.7321 | hm. | 1166.9248 |
878 | DTA_int_02 | 1167.0716 | They must be pretty brave people or- | 1168.6525 |
880 | | 1168.8268 | or something to- to- uh, | 1170.2674 |
882 | | 1170.3805 | to go ahead and do this and not- uh, | 1171.8727 |
884 | | 1172.2152 | not be afraid to, huh. | 1173.1785 |
885 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1174.0866 | Well I [don't see] why they should be, because- uh, afraid. | 1177.3772 |
886 | DTA_int_02 | 1174.3252 | [/inaudible/.] | 1174.6567 |
887 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1177.8696 | [it's what they want] | 1178.7260 |
888 | DTA_int_02 | 1177.8696 | [Well because of- because of the, uh,] | 1179.8052 |
889 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1179.0670 | [to.] | 1179.5213 |
890 | DTA_int_02 | 1179.9692 | because of this- the | 1181.5150 |
892 | | 1181.8300 | social, this aspect of that, [I mean.] | 1183.8801 |
893 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1183.5301 | [This is] true. All the- uh, | 1185.4753 |
894 | | 1186.3894 | their friends are limited. | 1187.5272 |
895 | DTA_int_02 | 1187.7352 | Mm-hm. | 1187.9523 |
896 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1187.9523 | Uh- uh- I understand- I'll tell you this, because his people, | 1190.9401 |
897 | | 1191.7838 | his mother, still haven't | 1193.2764 |
899 | | 1193.4201 | really accepted her. | 1194.6340 |
900 | DTA_int_02 | 1194.7563 | [Mm-hm.] | 1194.9582 |
901 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1194.8506 | [And] they've been married seven years. | 1196.9231 |
902 | DTA_int_02 | 1196.9982 | That's too bad. | 1197.5579 |
903 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1197.8664 | And, uh, | 1198.7106 |
905 | | 1198.8329 | for her- | 1199.5788 |
907 | | 1199.8881 | for his birthday which was two months ago, she brought over a birthday card | 1204.4731 |
909 | | 1205.4263 | in Polish. He wrote- | 1206.6768 |
911 | | 1206.8297 | she wrote what she had to say | 1208.7474 |
913 | | 1209.6680 | to her son, so this meant it was strictly for her son, [you know,] so she couldn't read it. | 1214.1785 |
914 | DTA_int_02 | 1212.7777 | [Mm-hm.] | 1213.0694 |
915 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1214.7780 | And before that | 1215.7165 |
917 | | 1216.5056 | they would always send any, um, letter or something to him on his job. | 1220.6618 |
918 | DTA_int_02 | 1220.6862 | Mm-hm. | 1220.9370 |
919 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1221.6768 | But they bought the home across the street | 1223.4782 |
921 | | 1223.7872 | two years ago and adopted the little girl a year ago. | 1226.8483 |
923 | | 1227.1843 | So they're easing up a little [bit now.] They see that isn't just something for overnight. | 1231.5515 |
924 | DTA_int_02 | 1228.5699 | [Mm-hm.] | 1228.8238 |
925 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1231.7320 | It's really for [keeps, after] seven years. | 1233.9245 |
926 | DTA_int_02 | 1232.4507 | [Mm-hm.] | 1232.7380 |
927 | | 1233.9245 | Mm-hm. | 1234.1508 |
928 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1234.4567 | And they're really fond of one another. I enjoy being around them. | 1237.8205 |
929 | DTA_int_02 | 1237.8268 | Mm-hm. | 1238.0745 |
930 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1238.4140 | Cause they really and truly, | 1240.0786 |
932 | | 1240.6249 | you know, | 1241.1020 |
933 | DTA_int_02 | 1241.1724 | Mm-hm. | 1241.3773 |
934 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1241.6250 | um, | 1242.0594 |
936 | | 1243.0835 | touch- really care for one another. | 1244.8820 |
937 | DTA_int_02 | 1249.1570 | What do you think is gonna happen? | 1250.3039 |
939 | | 1250.4844 | I mean, um, | 1251.0982 |
941 | | 1253.8391 | we feel that- that- t- | 1255.4077 |
943 | | 1255.5882 | I mean, you and I feel that- that- uh, | 1257.5330 |
945 | | 1258.9063 | that, uh, we should all be | 1260.3438 |
946 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1260.8358 | [Yeah.] | 1261.2765 |
947 | DTA_int_02 | 1260.9429 | [/close/ and] friends and [/wanna/-] | 1262.0038 |
948 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1261.8237 | [Mm-hm. | 1262.1938 |
949 | DTA_int_02 | 1262.3957 | but it's not that way. And- | 1263.5233 |
950 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1263.8450 | [No.] | 1264.2557 |
951 | DTA_int_02 | 1264.0744 | [and,] uh, | 1264.8023 |
952 | | 1265.0133 | there's- | 1265.2963 |
954 | | 1265.5430 | there's unhappiness on- | 1267.3374 |
956 | | 1267.8268 | on every side. I wonder what's gonna happen in this regard. | 1269.9000 |
957 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1271.0959 | In their case? | 1271.9676 |
958 | DTA_int_02 | 1272.3652 | Y- what's gonna happen in, uh, | 1274.0776 |
960 | | 1275.3346 | I mean, uh, | 1275.9612 |
962 | | 1277.6189 | is there gonna be | 1278.3866 |
964 | | 1278.6492 | fighting and | 1279.3496 |
965 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1280.4018 | [Oh, it will take] a little time, but it'll work [out.] | 1282.6371 |
966 | DTA_int_02 | 1280.4018 | [/and uh/] | 1281.0165 |
968 | | 1282.4811 | [You] think- you think everybody's gonna- | 1283.9431 |
969 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1284.0716 | I think it will take- [it will take] a little, but this is a new thing for a lot of people. | 1288.4230 |
970 | DTA_int_02 | 1285.0254 | [mm-hm.] | 1285.3221 |
971 | | 1288.5882 | Mm-hm. | 1288.8712 |
972 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1289.1081 | And it will take time, but it'll work out. | 1291.6065 |
974 | | 1293.0073 | I mean, it, uh, it can't stay like this and I don't think it's gonna go back like it was [before.] So only thing- only way it can | 1299.5487 |
975 | DTA_int_02 | 1297.5545 | [Mm-hm.] | 1297.8042 |
976 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1300.1233 | we just get some kind of understanding. | 1302.0930 |
977 | DTA_int_02 | 1302.2643 | Mm-hm. | 1302.4936 |
978 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1303.3955 | And, uh, | 1303.9827 |
980 | | 1304.2947 | <ts> I can understand both sides. | 1306.0346 |
981 | DTA_int_02 | 1306.0805 | Mm-hm. | 1306.3282 |
982 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1306.8726 | I really do. It's- uh, | 1308.0960 |
984 | | 1308.5548 | and then you find | 1309.5240 |
986 | | 1309.8084 | Southern or white, | 1311.2337 |
988 | | 1311.5732 | they were taught this. | 1312.8940 |
989 | DTA_int_02 | 1313.0592 | Mm-hm. | 1313.3283 |
990 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1314.2031 | It's not really their fault. | 1315.5397 |
991 | DTA_int_02 | 1315.6891 | They were- it's just the way they grew [up.] | 1317.0318 |
992 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1316.9951 | [This] is the way they grew up. Now, our fore-parents were taught | 1320.0661 |
993 | | 1320.4626 | to /jeff/ and, uh, | 1321.8573 |
995 | | 1322.2427 | whatnot | 1322.7168 |
996 | DTA_int_02 | 1322.8728 | [Mm-hm.] | 1323.1717 |
997 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1322.9982 | [To them,] | 1323.4661 |
998 | | 1323.8113 | this is the way they were taught. | 1325.1334 |
999 | DTA_int_02 | 1325.3283 | [Mm-hm.] | 1325.5639 |
1000 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1325.5149 | [So] this is- uh, | 1326.0838 |
1001 | | 1326.7318 | most of 'em, it's not really [their fault.] | 1328.8024 |
1002 | DTA_int_02 | 1327.9993 | [Mm-hm.] | 1328.2489 |
1003 | | 1329.2306 | Guess another generation [will have to come and /change/-] | 1331.3724 |
1004 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1330.1722 | [It-] | 1330.4169 |
1006 | | 1330.5576 | [this is right, this is] what will happen, | 1332.2398 |
1007 | DTA_int_02 | 1332.2581 | yeah. | 1332.4569 |
1008 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1332.8411 | is you will find | 1333.7839 |
1010 | | 1334.1907 | a little girl and a little boy, they don't care what color they are. If there's a game to be played and you can play, they'll play. | 1339.4658 |
1011 | DTA_int_02 | 1339.5790 | Mm-hm. | 1339.8696 |
1012 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1340.7321 | See, and- and when they're a certain age, when they get a little older, and perhaps their parents | 1345.2364 |
1014 | | 1345.4720 | tell them different things, they may try and change. But now | 1348.0438 |
1016 | | 1348.5209 | children are more forward and they think for the- they'll try it for theyself. | 1352.2549 |
1017 | DTA_int_02 | 1352.3161 | Mm-hm. | 1352.5608 |
1018 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1352.8789 | And when they find out it's not so much different in either one, everybody's trying to make it, | 1357.0315 |
1020 | | 1357.4781 | you know, this is where I think this barrier will | 1360.0621 |
1022 | | 1361.1540 | disappear. | 1361.9217 |
1024 | | 1362.2337 | And it'll take a little time. | 1363.2989 |
1025 | DTA_int_02 | 1363.4903 | Isn't that funny the way kids can get along | 1365.1687 |
1027 | | 1365.5697 | [that they grow up and] | 1366.5943 |
1028 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1365.6431 | [This is true.] | 1366.3160 |
1029 | | 1366.8910 | [This is right,] uh- uh-huh. And this is something that, | 1369.0593 |
1030 | DTA_int_02 | 1366.9551 | [/inaudible/?] | 1367.4427 |
1031 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1369.9674 | uh, that our parents and everyone have to put in them, [because as] children | 1374.2459 |
1032 | DTA_int_02 | 1373.3039 | [Mm-hm.] | 1373.5822 |
1033 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1374.5120 | they do not care. They can be from a child in a clinic, | 1377.7838 |
1035 | | 1378.2364 | like if | 1378.8206 |
1037 | | 1379.6709 | two women are in the clinic and they're | 1381.7594 |
1039 | | 1381.9797 | taking their children. They're sitting there, | 1383.7746 |
1041 | | 1384.0743 | if one have something to play with | 1385.7836 |
1043 | | 1385.9676 | they will reach over and get it, and then have a little game out of nothing but books and paper, they'll play. | 1390.5790 |
1044 | DTA_int_02 | 1390.6952 | [Mm-hm.] | 1390.9260 |
1045 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1390.8084 | [And] have fun. When they get older, | 1392.4141 |
1046 | | 1393.0682 | at, uh, kindergarten stage they'll play. | 1395.6527 |
1048 | | 1396.7625 | You know, they don't [care.] | 1398.1198 |
1049 | DTA_int_02 | 1397.9645 | [Mm-hm.] | 1398.2856 |
1050 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1398.6741 | When they get older, | 1399.9093 |
1052 | | 1400.1632 | this is when they | 1401.0960 |
1054 | | 1401.4749 | s- | 1401.6492 |
1055 | DTA_int_02 | 1401.7838 | Cruelty starts [/in/.] | 1402.6891 |
1056 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1402.4842 | [this is] right. And they don't get it by theirself, they're [marking] either their parents or what they hear their parents say this isn't right, and then they try and do it. | 1409.7963 |
1057 | DTA_int_02 | 1404.6872 | [Mm-hm.] | 1404.9765 |
1058 | | 1410.0654 | Mm-hm. | 1410.3063 |
1059 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1410.3071 | So, uh, | 1410.8205 |
1061 | | 1411.0315 | but this can't keep going on. [Cause children] nowadays are so different. | 1413.9856 |
1062 | DTA_int_02 | 1412.4667 | [Mm-hm.] | 1412.7541 |
1063 | | 1414.0009 | Mm-hm. | 1414.2364 |
1064 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1414.7216 | See they'll find out for theyself. | 1416.3703 |
1065 | DTA_int_02 | 1416.3703 | Mm-hm. | 1416.5967 |
1067 | | 1416.7838 | They're thinking. | 1417.2945 |
1068 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1417.4903 | They're thinking. This is true before when we were small, if your parents said this, this the way it was. But it's not done that way any longer. | 1423.4927 |
1070 | | 1423.9858 | See, so I think it'll take a little time but they will work out. It'll work out. | 1426.9552 |
1071 | DTA_int_02 | 1428.3223 | So I'm excited to see what's coming. | 1429.5239 |
1072 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1430.0745 | <ts> Oh, yes. | 1430.6800 |
1074 | | 1431.3560 | Did you see /RD-NAME-2/? | 1432.3159 |
1076 | | 1433.9464 | Yes, she came down. | 1435.0291 |
1078 | | 1435.2769 | What've you got good? | 1436.0446 |
1080 | | 1437.5612 | what've you got good? | 1438.3637 |
1082 | | 1440.9741 | Oh, you did. | 1441.8764 |
1084 | | 1442.3810 | Alright. | 1442.7389 |
1085 | DTA_int_02 | 1447.0047 | Do you remember what you wanted to be when you were in school? | 1448.8975 |
1086 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1449.0198 | A nurse. | 1449.5643 |
1087 | DTA_int_02 | 1450.6684 | Uh-huh. | 1450.9926 |
1089 | | 1452.3073 | How long- | 1452.8823 |
1091 | | 1453.5858 | how long would it take to become a nurse? | 1455.2400 |
1092 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1456.1698 | Mm, | 1456.6531 |
1094 | | 1456.8549 | about six, seven years I imagine. | 1459.0347 |
1095 | DTA_int_02 | 1460.5278 | Did you, uh, | 1461.1513 |
1097 | | 1461.3471 | do it? | 1461.6744 |
1098 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1462.4910 | No. | 1463.1730 |
1100 | | 1464.0657 | I had to get married | 1465.1362 |
1101 | DTA_int_02 | 1465.3350 | Mm-hm. | 1465.6256 |
1102 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1466.5890 | at fifteen. I was married twice at seventeen. I had six children at twenty-five. I had two marriages and no husband, so my plans were all turned around. | 1476.4052 |
1103 | DTA_int_02 | 1476.4603 | Goodness, what a life. How, uh- [how did this] all come about? I mean, if you can | 1479.7523 |
1104 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1477.7479 | [Yeah.] | 1478.1731 |
1105 | DTA_int_02 | 1480.1087 | express it. I mean, uh. | 1481.2525 |
1106 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1482.0107 | <ts> | 1482.1177 |
1108 | | 1482.3043 | Well my mother was very religious, remember my telling [you that.] | 1485.2584 |
1109 | DTA_int_02 | 1484.9128 | [Yeah.] | 1485.1218 |
1110 | | 1485.3746 | Right. | 1485.5880 |
1111 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1486.0658 | So, uh, | 1486.9528 |
1113 | | 1487.2434 | during the war she worked in the factory. | 1489.6990 |
1115 | | 1490.3382 | And I started going with my first husband, not for love. He had a car, he was a graduate of school and he would pick me up from | 1497.2767 |
1117 | | 1497.7111 | /RD-SCHOOL-4/, and I felt like a- | 1499.9403 |
1119 | | 1500.4358 | give me a nice feeling of picking me up. | 1501.9742 |
1121 | | 1502.6991 | And, uh, | 1503.5582 |
1123 | | 1504.7785 | <ts> going out two or three times he ended up him and me up in the corner, and taking what he wanted to. And naturally, here I was pregnant and I had to get married to keep me from going to the detention home. | 1514.2709 |
1124 | DTA_int_02 | 1514.3657 | Mm-hm. | 1514.6023 |
1125 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1514.8551 | And him getting in trouble. | 1516.0132 |
1127 | | 1516.4634 | So after the first child- | 1518.0382 |
1129 | | 1518.7172 | let me tell you s- how foolish I was, I didn't move from home. I stayed home with my mother. | 1523.1424 |
1130 | DTA_int_02 | 1523.2311 | Mm-hm. | 1523.5003 |
1131 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1523.7786 | And he went home. | 1524.7783 |
1133 | | 1525.3125 | He lived on the the East Side | 1526.7908 |
1135 | | 1527.3348 | an all colored neighborhood. | 1528.8213 |
1136 | DTA_int_02 | 1528.9436 | Mm-hm. | 1529.2128 |
1137 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1529.3718 | And as I said before, | 1530.6438 |
1139 | | 1530.8915 | I've never lived around | 1531.9467 |
1141 | | 1532.0507 | all completely colored. | 1533.4511 |
1142 | DTA_int_02 | 1533.5122 | Mm-hm. | 1533.7783 |
1143 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1534.0689 | And even | 1534.7051 |
1145 | | 1535.2158 | in our race, | 1536.1605 |
1147 | | 1537.0016 | I'm a little afraid around just | 1538.6868 |
1148 | DTA_int_02 | 1539.7019 | Anybody. | 1540.1423 |
1149 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1540.4787 | uh-huh. Blocks and blocks and blocks of 'em. | 1543.0047 |
1151 | | 1543.4634 | Uh, | 1543.8001 |
1153 | | 1544.4727 | as a child, I was raised in Port Huron and [Marine] City. Do you know where [these at?] | 1548.1216 |
1154 | DTA_int_02 | 1546.7479 | [Mm-hm.] | 1547.0690 |
1156 | | 1547.8149 | [Mm-hm.] | 1548.0779 |
1157 | | 1548.1941 | Yeah, over in | 1548.8765 |
1158 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1549.0444 | [My stepfather,] uh, was a immigrant patrol. | 1551.8686 |
1159 | DTA_int_02 | 1549.1943 | [by the Lake /?/.] | 1550.0016 |
1160 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1552.3686 | And, uh, | 1553.0079 |
1162 | | 1553.2464 | he worked there and there was only two colored families there in Marine City. [I don't] think they even live there now. | 1558.1423 |
1163 | DTA_int_02 | 1556.6681 | [Mm-hm.] | 1556.9032 |
1164 | | 1558.3442 | Mm-hm. | 1558.5980 |
1165 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1558.8641 | So as a child, being raised around you really get used to them. | 1562.0323 |
1166 | DTA_int_02 | 1562.1608 | [Mm-hm.] | 1562.4496 |
1167 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1562.3045 | [You know.] | 1562.7113 |
1168 | | 1563.1513 | So then after | 1564.2876 |
1170 | | 1564.4512 | mother and daddy separated, | 1566.0657 |
1172 | | 1566.7019 | we moved to Highland Park. | 1568.0323 |
1174 | | 1568.6043 | And then, uh, | 1569.6499 |
1176 | | 1569.9863 | in the ever- every area we have ever lived, it's always been mixed. [So I've] never really | 1574.0231 |
1177 | DTA_int_02 | 1573.0291 | [Mm-hm.] | 1573.2983 |
1178 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1574.9800 | come in contact with so many of them. | 1576.8971 |
1180 | | 1577.6592 | He lived on the East Side and in a neighborhood that I really would've been afraid to even live /over/. | 1582.2340 |
1182 | | 1582.4604 | <ts> So I wouldn't move with him, and he wouldn't move with me. | 1585.2065 |
1184 | | 1585.8916 | But I messed around and had two children by him then finally divorced. | 1589.2311 |
1185 | DTA_int_02 | 1589.4116 | [Mm-hm.] | 1589.6481 |
1186 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1589.5089 | [Still] staying at home with my mother. | 1590.9985 |
1187 | DTA_int_02 | 1591.1667 | [Mm-hm.] | 1591.3686 |
1188 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1591.1698 | [And] | 1591.4604 |
1189 | | 1592.6226 | that | 1592.9342 |
1191 | | 1593.6529 | second marriage was for convenience to feed the other children. | 1596.6682 |
1192 | DTA_int_02 | 1596.7661 | Mm-hm. | 1597.0070 |
1193 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1597.5735 | And it didn't last, but naturally you be pregnant before you /get/ [/her home/] so this is what happened. | 1602.3899 |
1194 | DTA_int_02 | 1600.9620 | [Mm-hm.] | 1601.2556 |
1195 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1603.9925 | <ts> So it's been | 1604.7358 |
1197 | | 1605.3501 | three marriages. | 1606.2659 |
1198 | DTA_int_02 | 1607.6772 | If you could do it all over again, what would you- | 1609.3044 |
1200 | | 1609.5888 | what would you wanna do or wouldn't [do?] | 1611.0835 |
1201 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1610.9800 | [I would] | 1611.3012 |
1202 | | 1611.4816 | go back to jumping rope. | 1612.8519 |
1204 | | 1613.0140 | [<laugh> And stay in school. That's right.] I would really, | 1616.5828 |
1205 | DTA_int_02 | 1613.7598 | [And start from there.] | 1614.7171 |
1207 | | 1615.4206 | [Mm-hm.] | 1615.7021 |
1208 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1617.4358 | really would- uh, it would really be different [if I] had my way. All together different. | 1622.6012 |
1209 | DTA_int_02 | 1620.1788 | [Mm-hm.] | 1620.4488 |
1210 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1625.0659 | That's wishful thinking though. | 1626.5125 |
1211 | DTA_int_02 | 1628.0384 | What would you do if you had all the money you could ever | 1629.8242 |
1213 | | 1629.9618 | want? | 1630.3564 |
1214 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1632.4602 | Mm, I would buy a nice home. | 1634.2892 |
1216 | | 1636.6653 | And just live comfortable. | 1638.2002 |
1217 | DTA_int_02 | 1638.4113 | Mm-hm. | 1638.6623 |
1218 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1639.7509 | And perhaps would've had about twelve children. I love children. | 1643.1889 |
1219 | DTA_int_02 | 1643.4238 | Mm-hm. | 1643.7169 |
1220 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1644.0198 | If I could really take care of them the way they should, it wouldn't matter. | 1646.7969 |
1222 | | 1647.6774 | You know. | 1648.1270 |
1224 | | 1648.7356 | And just stay at home and just | 1650.1635 |
1226 | | 1651.6775 | nothing elaborate, just live comfortable. | 1653.8731 |
1227 | DTA_int_02 | 1653.9465 | Mm-hm. | 1654.1851 |
1228 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1654.9008 | So I think that's- (whispering) | 1655.8557 |
1230 | | 1657.2768 | I wouldn't break any records or anything. Nothing sensational. | 1660.4695 |
1232 | | 1660.6133 | [Just-] | 1661.0690 |
1233 | DTA_int_02 | 1661.0231 | [Just] live. | 1661.5035 |
1234 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1661.7143 | just live. [Mm-hm.] | 1663.0658 |
1235 | DTA_int_02 | 1662.4755 | [Yeah.] | 1662.6529 |
1236 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1663.3900 | And spend my time teaching them the things that I felt, | 1666.0933 |
1238 | | 1666.7448 | you know, and then perhaps you- with all the money, | 1669.2034 |
1240 | | 1669.6194 | you would have help. So you wouldn't have to be nervous and you wouldn't holler, and you [could really] understand them. | 1674.4419 |
1241 | DTA_int_02 | 1673.0568 | [Mm-hm.] | 1673.3320 |
1242 | | 1674.5673 | Mm-hm. | 1674.8333 |
1243 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1674.9312 | Cause children are r- really interesting. | 1676.6445 |
1244 | DTA_int_02 | 1676.7908 | Mm-hm. | 1677.0595 |
1245 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1677.4082 | <ts> They really- but, | 1678.1208 |
1247 | | 1678.2829 | we don't have the time, a lot of time to sit down and really- | 1681.2340 |
1248 | DTA_int_02 | 1681.7173 | Enjoy it. | 1682.1302 |
1249 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1682.4360 | that's just true, huh? | 1683.1972 |
1251 | | 1683.5637 | Until it's too late. | 1684.6928 |
1252 | DTA_int_02 | 1688.0506 | Do you work? | 1688.5920 |
1253 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1689.8089 | Um, <ts> part-time. I used to domestic work and I stopped, the last three weeks. | 1694.4299 |
1254 | DTA_int_02 | 1696.2157 | Uh, was that, uh- | 1697.2036 |
1256 | | 1697.4085 | was that hard work, or [is?] | 1698.6162 |
1257 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1698.4266 | [Yes,] and it's something I've never been used to. | 1700.4627 |
1258 | DTA_int_02 | 1700.5981 | Uh-huh. | 1700.8376 |
1259 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1701.0565 | But not having too much of an education, | 1703.1546 |
1261 | | 1703.8487 | the field is limited | 1705.0230 |
1262 | DTA_int_02 | 1705.1575 | Mm-hm. | 1705.3900 |
1263 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1705.4909 | for me. | 1705.9283 |
1265 | | 1707.0871 | And, um, | 1707.8333 |
1267 | | 1709.0629 | I think they would- knew that I wasn't used to working, cause every job I'd have and I'd come home and tell my mother all the things I did, she'd say, you did what. [<laugh>] | 1717.0801 |
1268 | DTA_int_02 | 1716.7446 | [<laugh>] | 1717.5573 |
1269 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1717.5980 | And here- (laughing) | 1718.6436 |
1271 | | 1719.2644 | they would have me scrubbing on my knees from end to the other, and walls, and [ironing,] and [every litt- well they-] | 1725.7355 |
1272 | DTA_int_02 | 1724.1239 | [Oh, really?] | 1724.6894 |
1274 | | 1725.1390 | [They really took advantage] of you. | 1726.2095 |
1275 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1726.3013 | Oh, they can [tell.] | 1727.5308 |
1276 | DTA_int_02 | 1727.3534 | [Uh-huh.] | 1727.7384 |
1277 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1728.6529 | Who is it? | 1728.9985 |
1278 | DTA_int_02 | 1734.9037 | Uh, | 1735.3349 |
1280 | | 1735.5766 | is there any special | 1736.4307 |
1282 | | 1736.8577 | word for this part of town? Any special name for this part of town? | 1739.3014 |
1283 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1740.3776 | Uh, some call it Krainz Woods. | 1742.5273 |
1285 | | 1742.6803 | Some say on the other side of Conant Gardens. | 1744.7968 |
1286 | DTA_int_02 | 1745.4543 | What- uh, | 1746.1819 |
1288 | | 1746.5061 | what are the boundaries of it? | 1747.4305 |
1289 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1748.4972 | Uh, | 1749.1207 |
1291 | | 1749.7446 | Conant Gardens I think is at Six Mile, isn't [it?] | 1752.0246 |
1292 | DTA_int_02 | 1751.9066 | [Mm-hm.] | 1752.1939 |
1293 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1752.3929 | And this is Seven. | 1753.2982 |
1294 | DTA_int_02 | 1753.5643 | Mm-hm. | 1753.7834 |
1296 | | 1758.2767 | Is this city all surrounded by, uh, | 1760.2344 |
1298 | | 1760.9525 | <ts> uh, | 1761.8261 |
1300 | | 1762.8335 | Detroit? | 1763.2543 |
1301 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1765.7509 | No, well y- but you mean there's Highland Park or l- you mean? | 1769.0061 |
1302 | DTA_int_02 | 1770.3440 | Where am I? | 1771.0057 |
1304 | | 1771.6255 | We are in Detroit. | 1772.3476 |
1305 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1772.5063 | We're in Detroit, [yes.] | 1774.1785 |
1306 | DTA_int_02 | 1773.6175 | [<laugh> I was thinking I was in Highland Park.] | 1775.8030 |
1307 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1774.5765 | [We're in Detroit.] | 1775.5859 |
1308 | DTA_int_02 | 1776.1727 | [Outside.] | 1776.6937 |
1309 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1776.3103 | [No.] | 1776.7446 |
1310 | DTA_int_02 | 1776.9868 | [Oh okay.] | 1777.4440 |
1311 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1776.9899 | [We're in Detroit.] | 1777.7295 |
1312 | DTA_int_02 | 1779.1023 | Um, | 1779.4245 |
1314 | | 1780.0260 | can you name some of the streets around where you've lived and | 1782.2920 |
1316 | | 1782.8547 | around this area? | 1783.4297 |
1317 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1785.0901 | In this area? | 1785.9373 |
1318 | DTA_int_02 | 1786.0780 | Mm-hm. | 1786.3668 |
1320 | | 1787.3014 | Just n- some- some of the streets. | 1788.8639 |
1322 | | 1789.5123 | [Some more] streets. | 1790.2892 |
1323 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1789.5521 | [Hm.] | 1789.7325 |
1324 | | 1790.8148 | Justine, Sunset, | 1792.6530 |
1326 | | 1795.2799 | uh, | 1795.9590 |
1328 | | 1796.6011 | there's Ryan. | 1797.5183 |
1330 | | 1800.3929 | Eureka, | 1801.2646 |
1332 | | 1803.4724 | That's down. | 1804.3930 |
1333 | DTA_int_02 | 1807.8610 | How about some of the bigger streets in | 1809.0962 |
1335 | | 1809.3501 | Detroit? Can you name some of them? | 1810.5154 |
1336 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1812.0993 | <ts> Like Woodward, Linwood. | 1813.4707 |
1337 | DTA_int_02 | 1816.4848 | What's this | 1816.9753 |
1339 | | 1817.0904 | one that goes up | 1817.8515 |
1341 | | 1818.0649 | from, uh, | 1818.8863 |
1343 | | 1819.7662 | Jefferson, and goes up towards East Detroit? | 1821.7268 |
1345 | | 1822.8977 | And the name? /unintelligible/? | 1824.7492 |
1346 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1825.8182 | I'm not too familiar with that [t-] | 1827.5574 |
1347 | DTA_int_02 | 1827.5091 | [Gratiot?] | 1827.8914 |
1348 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1828.7019 | Gratiot. | 1829.2316 |
1350 | | 1829.5675 | Yes, Gratiot. | 1830.4999 |
1351 | DTA_int_02 | 1831.2493 | And, uh, | 1831.8304 |
1353 | | 1832.6011 | what's the one by the University of Detroit that goes north and south? | 1835.4263 |
1355 | | 1837.1912 | Liver- | 1837.5551 |
1357 | | 1838.1022 | uh? | 1838.3910 |
1358 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1838.5614 | Livernois? | 1839.3317 |
1359 | DTA_int_02 | 1839.5183 | Yeah. | 1839.6804 |
1360 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1840.2217 | Livernois. | 1840.8806 |
1361 | DTA_int_02 | 1841.1845 | And, uh, | 1841.9219 |
1363 | | 1843.3410 | what do they call these big, high-speed roads that | 1845.3195 |
1365 | | 1845.6161 | go through | 1846.1269 |
1367 | | 1846.2768 | town, uh? | 1846.9374 |
1368 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1850.2983 | [The expressway?] | 1851.2094 |
1369 | DTA_int_02 | 1850.2983 | [You know, the.] | 1850.7526 |
1370 | | 1851.2247 | Yeah, right. | 1851.7966 |
1372 | | 1852.2003 | [What would y- what are] the names of some of these? | 1853.7112 |
1373 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1852.2064 | [Expressway.] | 1852.8181 |
1374 | | 1854.4846 | John C. Lodge, | 1855.7845 |
1376 | | 1855.9588 | uh, | 1856.5334 |
1378 | | 1861.0229 | the Chrysler. | 1862.0812 |
1380 | | 1864.8197 | Uh. | 1865.8209 |
1381 | DTA_int_02 | 1868.7567 | Okay. | 1869.3140 |
1383 | | 1869.5947 | Um, | 1869.9082 |
1385 | | 1870.5888 | where did you say you were born? | 1871.6011 |
1386 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1872.0870 | In Detroit. | 1872.8029 |
1387 | DTA_int_02 | 1874.1179 | How long, | 1874.8423 |
1389 | | 1875.0167 | um, | 1875.4265 |
1391 | | 1877.7908 | or where- where else in Detroit, here, have you lived? | 1879.9099 |
1393 | | 1880.2402 | Besides here? | 1880.8852 |
1394 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1881.1512 | Oh, on Kendall in Highland Park, | 1883.5473 |
1396 | | 1884.2430 | on Linwood, | 1885.4083 |
1398 | | 1888.1422 | and, um, | 1888.8732 |
1400 | | 1890.5733 | <ts> Justine. | 1891.5765 |
1402 | | 1892.4543 | Two blocks over. | 1893.5340 |
1404 | | 1895.0261 | And Shields. | 1896.0696 |
1405 | DTA_int_02 | 1897.8640 | How long have you lived here? | 1898.6680 |
1406 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1899.2432 | About seven years. | 1900.3882 |
1407 | DTA_int_02 | 1902.1665 | Have you ever lived outside of this area? | 1903.7017 |
1408 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1905.0778 | No, other [than] | 1905.9403 |
1409 | DTA_int_02 | 1905.2221 | [You grew up in the Detroit area?] | 1906.4022 |
1410 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1906.7111 | what, Marine City as a child. | 1908.4479 |
1411 | DTA_int_02 | 1909.0627 | Oh, in- uh, | 1910.0353 |
1412 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1910.2066 | Marine City. | 1911.0904 |
1413 | DTA_int_02 | 1911.3623 | that's near Port Huron? | 1912.6958 |
1414 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1912.7814 | Mm-hm. We lived in Port Huron and we lived in Marine City. | 1915.8762 |
1415 | DTA_int_02 | 1916.0445 | How long did you live over there? | 1917.0636 |
1416 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1917.6528 | Oh, I was | 1918.3349 |
1418 | | 1918.5123 | about two or three. | 1919.4696 |
1420 | | 1919.8489 | You know, so I guess about two years. | 1921.9502 |
1422 | | 1922.1087 | Two or three [years.] | 1923.0999 |
1423 | DTA_int_02 | 1922.5609 | [And then you came-] | 1923.2583 |
1424 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1923.7538 | To- back to Detroit, [yes.] Uh-huh. | 1925.4604 |
1425 | DTA_int_02 | 1925.0266 | [mm-hm.] | 1925.2747 |
1426 | | 1926.7109 | Have you ever gone on any trips anywhere | 1928.1821 |
1428 | | 1928.3564 | for extended time? | 1929.2127 |
1429 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1929.7935 | No, I've been to Chicago and | 1932.0656 |
1431 | | 1933.4572 | that's about it I think. | 1934.9494 |
1432 | DTA_int_02 | 1935.0411 | Mm-hm. | 1935.2907 |
1433 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1935.8486 | Cleveland. | 1936.4789 |
1435 | | 1936.7140 | I didn't like that. | 1937.5430 |
1436 | DTA_int_02 | 1937.6898 | Mm-hm. | 1937.9738 |
1438 | | 1939.7386 | How does you family celebrate the holidays? | 1941.2705 |
1439 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1942.7998 | Well if the money's not too short <laugh> | 1944.7810 |
1441 | | 1945.3112 | we barbecue in the backyard. [<laugh>] | 1947.5622 |
1442 | DTA_int_02 | 1947.1875 | [Mm-hm.] | 1947.4646 |
1443 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1948.2379 | If it's- uh, | 1949.4241 |
1445 | | 1952.2120 | um, | 1952.9187 |
1447 | | 1953.2058 | this is usually we do around the [house.] | 1955.5859 |
1448 | DTA_int_02 | 1955.4485 | [Mm-hm.] | 1955.7325 |
1449 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1956.4989 | Since I'm the one with | 1957.5280 |
1451 | | 1957.6257 | the large amount of children, and if I have any transportation | 1961.2852 |
1453 | | 1963.3356 | I don't usually take 'em to- /?/ or to a park anyways. Too m- | 1966.9563 |
1455 | | 1967.5985 | you know, it's too nerve-wracking with too many people [there.] | 1970.2256 |
1456 | DTA_int_02 | 1970.0215 | [Yeah.] | 1970.1997 |
1457 | | 1970.4851 | Right. | 1970.7264 |
1458 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1970.7508 | So usually we barbecue over a friend or | 1973.6225 |
1460 | | 1973.7935 | our yard or something like that. | 1975.4761 |
1462 | | 1976.6317 | And then go for a long ride. | 1978.1982 |
1463 | DTA_int_02 | 1981.8486 | What do you do at Christmas time? | 1982.7752 |
1464 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1983.5264 | <ts> Celebrate here at home. | 1985.0135 |
1465 | DTA_int_02 | 1985.0898 | Mm-hm. | 1985.3066 |
1466 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1986.0928 | [We're always here.] Oh, [yes.] Christmas tree, presents, I usually give the children | 1990.5005 |
1467 | DTA_int_02 | 1986.1416 | [With presents and | 1987.0272 |
1469 | | 1987.2501 | [Christmas dinner?] | 1987.6434 |
1470 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1991.1509 | all one large gift and then a small. I usually try and give them gifts. | 1994.9645 |
1472 | | 1995.4317 | And a tree. | 1996.2470 |
1474 | | 1996.9219 | Oh and baking and cooking. | 1998.4501 |
1475 | DTA_int_02 | 1998.4653 | Mm-hm. | 1998.7062 |
1476 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 1999.1402 | I like that. | 1999.8944 |
1477 | DTA_int_02 | 2001.6088 | Anything special you cook | 2003.1326 |
1479 | | 2003.4607 | for Christmas? | 2004.2473 |
1480 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2004.6149 | Oh, there's always a | 2005.8058 |
1482 | | 2006.1326 | couple of cakes, and | 2007.4775 |
1484 | | 2007.6913 | sweet potato pie, and turkey, | 2009.5645 |
1486 | | 2010.5691 | and | 2010.9386 |
1488 | | 2011.8272 | the trimmings. | 2012.6559 |
1490 | | 2013.8317 | A lot of fruit. | 2014.7227 |
1491 | DTA_int_02 | 2015.2011 | Mm-hm. | 2015.4576 |
1492 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2018.2791 | Nuts, you know, the a- I guess the usual. It's [usually] plenty to eat | 2022.3412 |
1493 | DTA_int_02 | 2021.1939 | [Yeah.] | 2021.3915 |
1494 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2022.7493 | [on] that day. | 2023.5156 |
1495 | DTA_int_02 | 2022.7585 | [Yeah.] | 2022.9457 |
1496 | | 2023.6440 | Hm. | 2023.7875 |
1498 | | 2024.4973 | What kind of presents do the kids like for Christmas? I mean, what do- what do you typically try and get 'em? | 2027.9767 |
1499 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2028.0867 | Well, | 2028.9683 |
1501 | | 2029.4913 | from year to year it [varies.] | 2031.3371 |
1502 | DTA_int_02 | 2031.2302 | [Mm-hm.] | 2031.4836 |
1503 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2032.2653 | Like this year, uh, | 2033.6683 |
1505 | | 2033.8149 | money was short. | 2034.7371 |
1507 | | 2034.9834 | I bought | 2035.4028 |
1509 | | 2036.2181 | the son, twelve, and the one fourteen, a pool table together. | 2039.8375 |
1510 | DTA_int_02 | 2040.1019 | Mm-hm. | 2040.3187 |
1511 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2041.2134 | And, uh, the one fourteen, a watch. | 2043.7188 |
1513 | | 2044.5982 | And a heavy knit sweater. | 2046.0928 |
1515 | | 2047.3661 | And the one twelve, | 2048.6938 |
1517 | | 2049.4623 | a /couple gum/- | 2050.4575 |
1519 | | 2050.6655 | guns. | 2051.3524 |
1521 | | 2051.7599 | And three games. | 2052.9703 |
1523 | | 2054.8668 | And a shirt and pants. | 2056.6898 |
1524 | DTA_int_02 | 2056.7264 | Mm-hm. | 2057.0022 |
1525 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2057.9309 | [And s-] | 2058.4037 |
1526 | DTA_int_02 | 2058.3432 | [They] get excited, do they? | 2059.2158 |
1527 | | 2059.3827 | For Christmas? | 2059.9052 |
1528 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2060.1967 | No, cause they always want more. | 2061.8806 |
1530 | | 2062.1340 | [<laugh>] | 2063.1095 |
1531 | DTA_int_02 | 2062.2470 | [<laugh>] | 2062.8393 |
1532 | | 2063.2072 | Well it's [not /inaudible/.] | 2064.1302 |
1533 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2063.5859 | [My children] are something else. (laughing) | 2066.0318 |
1534 | DTA_int_02 | 2064.8568 | [Yeah.] | 2065.1340 |
1536 | | 2065.5707 | [Yeah, just] like people. | 2066.6083 |
1537 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2067.0958 | Well they wanted a bike, a /?/, a racer. Sixty | 2070.3768 |
1539 | | 2070.6668 | four dollars. [And for two,] I says no. | 2073.3951 |
1540 | DTA_int_02 | 2071.6348 | [Oh my goodness.] | 2072.4363 |
1541 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2074.0546 | So I waited until after, in the spring, I caught one on sale. And i was able to get the younger one. But for around Christmas, if I had gotten the bike, which I didn't have the money to get the bike, if I had gotten it then it would've been a treat. It wouldn't been anything else. | 2085.9600 |
1542 | DTA_int_02 | 2086.0424 | Mm-hm. | 2086.3138 |
1543 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2086.9371 | And it just didn't make [sense.] | 2088.4803 |
1544 | DTA_int_02 | 2088.3951 | [Mm-hm.] | 2088.6607 |
1545 | | 2088.9294 | [Right.] | 2089.1486 |
1546 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2089.1004 | [Since] they don't believe in Santa Claus anyway. | 2091.2222 |
1547 | DTA_int_02 | 2091.4042 | Hm. | 2091.5595 |
1549 | | 2093.7019 | What- uh, what do the kids do on October thirty first? What's this, uh, | 2096.9544 |
1551 | | 2097.0592 | day [called?] | 2097.7370 |
1552 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2097.4225 | [<ts> Halloween.] | 2098.2614 |
1553 | DTA_int_02 | 2098.2104 | [Yeah.] | 2098.4948 |
1554 | | 2098.6623 | What do the kids do on Halloween? | 2099.8912 |
1555 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2099.9676 | <ts> Uh, trick or treat. They dress and go begging | 2102.7220 |
1557 | | 2103.4439 | in the neighborhood. The younger ones. And the older ones, go to- | 2106.5600 |
1559 | | 2106.8470 | to usually a party. | 2107.9096 |
1560 | DTA_int_02 | 2107.9676 | Mm-hm. | 2108.2089 |
1562 | | 2109.9813 | What do the kids say when they come to the door? | 2111.4287 |
1563 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2112.0073 | Mm, trick or treat. | 2112.8623 |
1564 | DTA_int_02 | 2113.4943 | Do they go out, uh, | 2114.6378 |
1566 | | 2114.7905 | dressed up? | 2115.2839 |
1567 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2116.3661 | <ts> The younger ones. | 2117.4057 |
1568 | DTA_int_02 | 2117.4393 | What kind of costumes do they wear? | 2118.6180 |
1569 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2118.8684 | Oh they vary. | 2119.6470 |
1571 | | 2119.8547 | Each year if, uh, | 2121.1141 |
1573 | | 2122.5493 | <ts> | 2122.6592 |
1575 | | 2123.4332 | I have some extra money, I'll buy a costume. If not, they'll make one. | 2126.8151 |
1576 | DTA_int_02 | 2127.0897 | Mm-hm. | 2127.3451 |
1577 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2127.7401 | So it's- | 2128.5548 |
1579 | | 2130.9844 | it change from year to year. Whatever- | 2133.1598 |
1581 | | 2133.8042 | however things are that year. [Just make] the best of it, /unintelligible/. | 2137.9524 |
1582 | DTA_int_02 | 2135.7721 | [/And do/-] | 2136.1625 |
1583 | | 2138.8301 | do they ever dress up like- uh, oh, what's this old lady that flies on a broom through the [sky?] | 2142.5409 |
1584 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2142.2485 | [<ts> The] witch. | 2143.1279 |
1585 | DTA_int_02 | 2143.1432 | Yeah. | 2143.3875 |
1586 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2144.2821 | Mm, | 2145.1783 |
1588 | | 2146.2409 | uh, the girls. See, the- my daughters are older | 2149.0882 |
1590 | | 2149.3386 | than the boys. All I have now at home, well the young ones are boys. | 2152.8474 |
1591 | DTA_int_02 | 2152.9737 | [Mm-hm.] | 2153.2088 |
1592 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2153.1783 | [They] don't | 2154.0042 |
1593 | | 2154.8134 | dress like that. | 2155.8088 |
1595 | | 2155.9127 | The girls I can recall dressing as a witch. | 2158.3661 |
1596 | DTA_int_02 | 2160.6515 | What do you make a | 2161.4577 |
1598 | | 2162.3904 | jack-o-lantern out of? | 2163.1901 |
1599 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2164.3691 | A pumpkin. | 2165.2241 |
1600 | DTA_int_02 | 2165.4607 | Mm-hm. | 2165.7364 |
1601 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2165.9920 | A candle. | 2166.5951 |
1602 | DTA_int_02 | 2168.7019 | What kind of things do- uh, | 2170.2226 |
1604 | | 2170.7753 | do fights usually start about around here? | 2172.3187 |
1605 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2173.6928 | <ts> | 2173.8027 |
1607 | | 2173.9004 | Oh, one taking something from the other one. | 2176.3264 |
1608 | DTA_int_02 | 2176.8546 | I guess I'm thinking more out, not in the house, but, uh, | 2179.7818 |
1609 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2180.3921 | Out in the [street?] | 2181.0571 |
1610 | DTA_int_02 | 2180.6897 | [out- out] where the kids are /about ? here/. | 2182.4668 |
1611 | | 2183.6622 | Where they run around /and stuff/. | 2184.6882 |
1612 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2186.1264 | Well I really couldn't say, cause when by the time it get to me, they would given me their version anyway. [So they] wouldn't be fair, for me to say what it really start | 2194.2333 |
1613 | DTA_int_02 | 2191.1061 | [Yeah.] | 2191.3661 |
1614 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2194.3881 | from. By the time that they | 2195.6988 |
1616 | | 2196.6057 | really get into a fight. | 2197.9768 |
1618 | | 2198.3218 | And the parent or someone come to meet you s- | 2200.8027 |
1620 | | 2201.7996 | you know, it's all together different. | 2203.3168 |
1621 | DTA_int_02 | 2203.3294 | Yeah. | 2203.5065 |
1623 | | 2204.5003 | Uh, | 2204.7790 |
1625 | | 2204.9675 | how about, um, | 2205.8256 |
1627 | | 2206.2287 | is there any kind of, uh, | 2207.5740 |
1629 | | 2208.4103 | street fighting or anything like this around | 2210.0923 |
1631 | | 2210.5065 | in this area? | 2211.0783 |
1632 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2211.8897 | [No.] | 2212.3752 |
1633 | DTA_int_02 | 2212.3447 | [When] you read in the paper [about s-.] | 2213.6290 |
1634 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2213.2211 | [No cause] usually here, like, if you one of my sons- I have more trouble with my younger son, | 2218.8187 |
1635 | DTA_int_02 | 2219.7324 | [Mm-hm.] | 2219.9748 |
1636 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2219.7446 | [Any-] the one that's twelve. If he do something | 2222.2180 |
1637 | | 2223.0011 | fight | 2223.4775 |
1639 | | 2223.8347 | both | 2224.2585 |
1641 | | 2224.5371 | the child will- whoever he's fighting will tell his parent. And it's understood they come to me and tell me, then I | 2230.7752 |
1643 | | 2231.3737 | punish him. Whoop him. | 2232.4042 |
1644 | DTA_int_02 | 2232.7309 | Mm-hm. | 2232.9922 |
1645 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2233.4210 | This is the way we do this. | 2234.9553 |
1647 | | 2235.1294 | Um, | 2235.6332 |
1649 | | 2235.8073 | here it's usually | 2237.0592 |
1651 | | 2237.6164 | not, uh, a group fight. Whoever start it | 2240.4240 |
1653 | | 2240.5492 | that they come | 2241.2332 |
1655 | | 2241.7615 | and they k- | 2242.3508 |
1657 | | 2242.6775 | call or either they'll come. And when they tell me | 2244.9935 |
1658 | DTA_int_02 | 2245.4180 | Mm-hm. | 2245.6500 |
1659 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2245.9737 | whatever i- and usually my son say, well I didn't do it. But I feel that | 2249.1752 |
1661 | | 2249.3279 | he knows something about it [and he] have to be punished or whooped [for.] | 2252.7568 |
1662 | DTA_int_02 | 2250.7737 | [Mm-hm.] | 2250.9813 |
1664 | | 2252.5248 | [Mm-hm.] | 2252.7613 |
1665 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2253.8439 | And they don't usually do that anymore. | 2255.6377 |
1666 | DTA_int_02 | 2255.8301 | Mm-hm. | 2256.0713 |
1667 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2256.7279 | It was understood they just tell me. | 2258.5003 |
1669 | | 2258.8423 | You know, then this keeps down a lot, uh, ill feelings and a lot of other things that they know that they will get. | 2264.0836 |
1671 | | 2264.4545 | And I don't like whooping | 2265.6179 |
1673 | | 2265.7401 | children too [much.] But this is one time I will whoop them. | 2268.1904 |
1674 | DTA_int_02 | 2266.3386 | [Mm-hm.] | 2266.5584 |
1675 | | 2268.3645 | Mm-hm. | 2268.5782 |
1676 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2269.4638 | Cause, uh, I mean I don't like that. | 2270.9187 |
1677 | DTA_int_02 | 2273.2149 | Are there any rules for- um, | 2274.5501 |
1679 | | 2274.8317 | for a fair fight? I mean, if the kids are gonna fight, | 2276.8026 |
1681 | | 2277.1110 | uh, | 2277.3828 |
1683 | | 2278.9071 | if they're fighting out there and you know- | 2280.1477 |
1685 | | 2280.7645 | when you grew up, were | 2281.6745 |
1687 | | 2282.4043 | did- did the kids fight? And would they- were there- | 2285.3157 |
1689 | | 2285.5156 | was there dirty fighting as against to clean fighting, or? | 2287.8393 |
1690 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2288.4454 | <ts> | 2288.5797 |
1692 | | 2288.6896 | Well I don't know. Um, | 2290.3722 |
1694 | | 2291.5248 | I can't remember being a girl, it wasn't too much fighting. | 2294.6041 |
1695 | DTA_int_02 | 2294.6499 | Mm-hm. | 2294.9248 |
1696 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2295.6179 | But like with boys, I have- uh, we have boxing gloves, and if they really must shoot, I have called | 2301.9385 |
1698 | | 2303.9981 | other boys from the street that really wanted to fight, and put 'em in the yard, and put boxing gloves on ['em.] | 2308.7914 |
1699 | DTA_int_02 | 2308.5615 | [Let them] go. | 2309.1142 |
1700 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2309.3340 | Just let them go if they really wanna fight. | 2311.2206 |
1702 | | 2311.7538 | Then I feel | 2312.6347 |
1704 | | 2312.9370 | better that way, cause then you don't have to worry about a stick, one getting poked in the eye | 2317.3861 |
1706 | | 2317.8668 | or really hurting one and- | 2319.2179 |
1708 | | 2319.3248 | cause they really don't mean to really hurt. | 2321.0806 |
1709 | DTA_int_02 | 2321.4881 | Mm-hm. | 2321.7293 |
1710 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2322.0011 | And usually, five out of ten, after they fight | 2324.3126 |
1712 | | 2324.5736 | like the devil one day, the next day they're out playing. | 2327.3584 |
1713 | DTA_int_02 | 2327.3812 | Mm-hm. | 2327.6225 |
1714 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2327.8698 | So there's no point in we parents getting too [alarmed.] | 2330.6896 |
1715 | DTA_int_02 | 2330.4515 | [Mm-hm.] | 2330.7018 |
1716 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2331.1843 | So when they really | 2332.6622 |
1718 | | 2332.8241 | be mauling off and feel that they must fight, | 2335.5096 |
1720 | | 2335.7111 | then I'll drag | 2336.8148 |
1722 | | 2337.1385 | mine and the other one in the yard. | 2338.7874 |
1723 | DTA_int_02 | 2338.8607 | Mm-hm. | 2339.1495 |
1724 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2339.4103 | And just let 'em get to it. | 2340.5904 |
1726 | | 2341.0118 | And then give 'em some Kool-Aid, and they'll be alright. And it isn't a terrible shame, we usually laugh. | 2344.9129 |
1727 | DTA_int_02 | 2345.1019 | Yeah. | 2345.3486 |
1729 | | 2346.8347 | Um, | 2347.1714 |
1731 | | 2349.1049 | have you ever seen anybody get beat up real bad or anything like that? | 2351.5492 |
1732 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2354.3615 | No. | 2354.9644 |
1734 | | 2355.9442 | No, not really bad. | 2357.1869 |
1735 | DTA_int_02 | 2359.8943 | Have you ever been in the hospital? | 2360.8973 |
1736 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2361.7950 | Yes. | 2362.3569 |
1737 | DTA_int_02 | 2364.0622 | [Um,] | 2364.4530 |
1738 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2364.1477 | [Mm.] | 2364.5019 |
1739 | DTA_int_02 | 2364.8958 | what was it? | 2365.3028 |
1740 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2366.5583 | Well I had, um, | 2367.5690 |
1742 | | 2368.8638 | major surgery, | 2369.9034 |
1744 | | 2370.7370 | female trouble, and I had surgery on my feet. | 2373.7556 |
1745 | DTA_int_02 | 2374.0607 | Mm-hm. | 2374.3466 |
1746 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2374.6439 | Twice, | 2375.2699 |
1748 | | 2376.2606 | so. | 2376.5904 |
1749 | DTA_int_02 | 2377.6103 | What's- what's the worst illness you've ever had? | 2379.4686 |
1750 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2382.6332 | Oh, I think when I had female trouble. That was- I had a tumor, you know, I was really sick then. | 2387.4698 |
1751 | DTA_int_02 | 2387.7507 | Mm-hm. | 2387.9945 |
1753 | | 2389.1706 | This took care of it, though? | 2389.9927 |
1754 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2390.4881 | Mm-hm. | 2390.9125 |
1755 | DTA_int_02 | 2393.8484 | What do you say in the winter time | 2395.1371 |
1757 | | 2395.5279 | when- uh, | 2396.1362 |
1759 | | 2396.9858 | when kids- it's real cold and kids come in and they start, | 2399.2072 |
1761 | | 2400.3217 | uh, coughing and sneezing. Th- you say | 2402.6377 |
1763 | | 2402.9583 | that they're starting to? | 2403.8103 |
1764 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2404.5309 | Catch a cold. | 2405.3370 |
1765 | DTA_int_02 | 2405.5339 | Okay. | 2405.8561 |
1767 | | 2407.3263 | Have you ever been in an automobile accident? | 2408.7537 |
1768 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2409.2179 | No. | 2409.6209 |
1769 | DTA_int_02 | 2410.2469 | What's the worst one you've ever seen? | 2411.4850 |
1770 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2414.8026 | Mm, on the expressway- I haven't ever really seen one. Like, you know, | 2419.2683 |
1772 | | 2419.8393 | directly like a car being hit | 2421.3980 |
1774 | | 2421.6973 | and people. I've seen the after. | 2423.4178 |
1775 | DTA_int_02 | 2423.8117 | What would happen- what would you see afterwards? I [mean,] | 2426.4209 |
1776 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2426.0394 | [U- uh.] | 2427.0173 |
1777 | DTA_int_02 | 2426.8423 | [what do] you figure happened? | 2427.6840 |
1778 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2428.1645 | Oh you see blood, glass, and a dented car. | 2430.9721 |
1779 | DTA_int_02 | 2431.1461 | Mm-hm. | 2431.4378 |
1780 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2431.8223 | Something like that. | 2432.7507 |
1781 | DTA_int_02 | 2435.4239 | Have you ever been in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die? | 2438.4911 |
1782 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2441.9186 | No. | 2442.3217 |
1784 | | 2443.9248 | Well I can't recall none. | 2445.2789 |
1785 | DTA_int_02 | 2448.2453 | Some people say whatever is gonna happen, is gonna happen. What do you think about that? | 2451.2301 |
1786 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2451.3461 | This is true. | 2452.0545 |
1788 | | 2453.2821 | I believe this. | 2454.2423 |
1789 | DTA_int_02 | 2454.2423 | Hm. | 2454.4368 |
1790 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2454.4805 | I, um, | 2455.0545 |
1792 | | 2455.6347 | getting back to the murder. | 2456.9888 |
1794 | | 2458.6530 | Uh, | 2459.0449 |
1796 | | 2459.1630 | I was supposed to- I- | 2460.5812 |
1798 | | 2462.0653 | if I had followed the plans, I would have been at his house when it happened. | 2465.9888 |
1799 | DTA_int_02 | 2465.9888 | So you would've got it, too? | 2467.1092 |
1800 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2467.5217 | I just | 2468.0225 |
1802 | | 2468.1874 | so happen that night | 2469.6698 |
1804 | | 2470.1431 | my second husband came by. And this is something he never do. | 2473.2927 |
1805 | DTA_int_02 | 2473.5920 | Mm-hm. | 2473.8515 |
1806 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2474.6957 | And he had some scotch. | 2476.1675 |
1808 | | 2476.8240 | And, uh, I had some scotch. | 2478.7492 |
1810 | | 2479.6897 | And he went to sleep sitting at the table. He had been | 2482.5034 |
1812 | | 2482.6317 | to work. | 2483.2088 |
1814 | | 2484.0988 | And I took his station wagon, which I don't even drive, but I got my daughter. | 2488.1100 |
1816 | | 2488.8210 | I took the keys from him while he was sitting there sleeping, and stripped all the beds and the- | 2493.1385 |
1818 | | 2493.2789 | and all the clothes and washed, cause our washer machine is broke. | 2497.1871 |
1819 | DTA_int_02 | 2497.4057 | Mm-hm. | 2497.6775 |
1820 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2497.7874 | But this was chance for me to get all the [clothes clean.] And this is- was, uh, | 2501.9919 |
1821 | DTA_int_02 | 2499.8866 | [And all that. Mm-hm.] | 2500.8207 |
1822 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2502.6647 | around nine in the evening, and usually you wash early. | 2505.4499 |
1823 | DTA_int_02 | 2505.4652 | Mm-hm. | 2505.7380 |
1824 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2505.8683 | But even, I was just so glad to have transportation | 2508.5171 |
1826 | | 2508.8438 | since he was sitting here, I | 2510.1599 |
1828 | | 2510.6499 | grabbed all my clothes and went there. And this threw me late. | 2513.4972 |
1829 | DTA_int_02 | 2513.7568 | Mm-hm. | 2514.0102 |
1830 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2514.7095 | <ts> | 2514.8102 |
1832 | | 2515.1186 | And then it was my brother's birthday, he came by. | 2518.0110 |
1834 | | 2519.1904 | And, uh, | 2519.9613 |
1836 | | 2520.4805 | since he had the scotch | 2521.5797 |
1838 | | 2521.7294 | I gave him a drink, you know. And I went to the store | 2524.6958 |
1840 | | 2525.1263 | and bought a bottle of champagne for him for his birthday. | 2527.9675 |
1842 | | 2528.9094 | And fooling around with him, | 2530.6042 |
1843 | DTA_int_02 | 2530.7141 | [Mm-hm.] | 2530.9622 |
1844 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2530.8210 | [time] flew by, cause this fella | 2532.8499 |
1845 | | 2533.7965 | that was killed, | 2534.6774 |
1847 | | 2535.1690 | he worked afternoon so he got home at ten thirty. | 2537.8575 |
1849 | | 2538.4835 | R- he got off at ten thirty, | 2539.7766 |
1851 | | 2540.0744 | eleven fifteen he was home. | 2541.8255 |
1853 | | 2542.1675 | Well this was always good for my plans, at that time my children would be in bed. | 2546.2485 |
1855 | | 2546.5919 | You know, and I would be able to go | 2548.4179 |
1857 | | 2548.9003 | over his house and maybe, uh, | 2551.0118 |
1859 | | 2551.1747 | we'd broil steaks or have dinner, or drink or whatever. | 2554.0545 |
1860 | DTA_int_02 | 2554.1913 | Mm-hm. | 2554.5149 |
1861 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2554.6988 | And I could be back home before the kids wake up, you know, seeing I'm not missed. | 2558.0911 |
1862 | DTA_int_02 | 2558.1935 | [Mm-hm.] | 2558.4117 |
1863 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2558.2041 | [And then,] you know, e- my- since my mother stays here, see everything was really in order and it's still like we're running the streets, but it's just a little outlet. | 2565.2178 |
1864 | | 2565.9263 | <ts> | 2566.0301 |
1866 | | 2566.3141 | And since this happened, uh, | 2568.3705 |
1868 | | 2568.9965 | Friday, my brother's birthday, like I said, I'm going washing t-. | 2571.6331 |
1870 | | 2572.2927 | I missed it. | 2572.9675 |
1872 | | 2573.8575 | And I've often wondered, I say well the Lord was with me. | 2576.3339 |
1874 | | 2576.7720 | Cause it wasn't like who- whoever did it, if they had seen me they might've had to have did this to me to keep me, | 2582.0239 |
1876 | | 2582.2082 | you know, quiet. And whoever did it meant | 2583.8408 |
1878 | | 2584.1125 | to do it. Cause he shoot him five times, that's- | 2586.3107 |
1879 | DTA_int_02 | 2587.1522 | He was mad. | 2587.6631 |
1880 | DTA_se1_ag3_f_01 | 2588.0072 | yeah. | 2588.4972 |
1882 | | 2588.7018 | Right through the door. | 2589.7510 |
1884 | | 2589.9995 | One went through the door and the other right there at the door, so. | 2593.0148 |
1886 | | 2594.2026 | I go along with it, if it's not meant for you. | 2596.4767 |