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1DTA_int_051.4582Well,1.8975
3 2.8861let's talk about, uh, the days when you were a lot younger than you are now.5.5222 
5 6.3476<laugh>7.0066 
6DTA_se1_ag3_m_017.2263[Okay.]7.7389
7DTA_int_057.3622[/inaudible/]7.5269
8 7.8478<laugh>8.3899
10 8.7890What kinds of- kind of games did you play when you were a kid?10.8527 
11DTA_se1_ag3_m_0112.1896Oh, I played softball.13.5199
12DTA_int_0513.6664Uh-huh.14.0437
13DTA_se1_ag3_m_0115.4349Mm. Shoot aggies.16.6981
14DTA_int_0517.5219Uh. [What?]18.0406
15DTA_se1_ag3_m_0117.8819[Uh], shoot18.3091
16 18.7301agates.19.3098
17DTA_int_0519.6660Shoot agates?20.4288
18DTA_se1_ag3_m_0120.4776Yeah. Marbles, I [guess it's called.]21.8445
19DTA_int_0521.1915[Oh yeah. Yeah.] Yeah. It's marbles. Yeah.23.1015
20DTA_se1_ag3_m_0123.4127and then let's see.24.3830
21DTA_int_0525.5526The aggie is the name of the shooter is it?26.9683
22DTA_se1_ag3_m_0128.1827Yeah. [It is.]28.9637
23DTA_int_0528.7502[Was- uh.] Was the aggie bigger than the other ones you were shooting in?31.5244
24DTA_se1_ag3_m_0132.0675Yes.32.5007
26 33.4954Some are. Yeah.34.5327 
28 34.8683Some are small, some are larger but some of 'em call- I think they call the aggies the largest one I think [though.]38.6675 
29DTA_int_0538.4234[Right.]38.7651
30DTA_se1_ag3_m_0139.0153Yeah.39.4180
31DTA_int_0539.6316Do they- were they all one color? Or different [colors?]41.3951
32DTA_se1_ag3_m_0141.1937[No, they're] different [colors.]42.2557
33DTA_int_0542.1518[Uh-huh.]42.5088
34 43.9397You say you used to play softball huh?45.1621
35DTA_se1_ag3_m_0145.2048Yeah, a little.45.6686
36DTA_int_0545.6826They don't play much softball now do they?46.9256
37DTA_se1_ag3_m_0147.7616Mm. Some places they do, they-50.2110
39 50.6747they have teams.51.6938 
40DTA_int_0551.8219Uh-huh.52.1659
41DTA_se1_ag3_m_0152.9734I don't hear of 'em too much now, you know.55.3899
42DTA_int_0556.9691You had regular leagues running, did you?58.6039
43DTA_se1_ag3_m_0158.8541No. We just-59.9342
45 60.5422we all were from a little neighborhood community like we all have- had a team, we all used to just played each other you know.65.1154 
46DTA_int_0565.8598Was that, uh, softball is underhand pitch, huh?68.3652
47DTA_se1_ag3_m_0168.3007Underhand pitch [yeah.]69.2484
48DTA_int_0569.1272[Uh-huh.]69.4538
49 69.8668/And then the/ diamond's same size as baseball is it?71.9842
50DTA_se1_ag3_m_0172.0330No. It's smaller.73.0521
51DTA_int_0573.1009Uh-huh.73.4318
53 73.7625But positions are the same huh?75.0012 
54DTA_se1_ag3_m_0175.1477Yes. Positions the same.76.3693
55DTA_int_0576.3780Mm-hm.76.7136
56DTA_se1_ag3_m_0178.1633[And]78.9729
58 79.1499later on I got a little bit older, well I used to box quite a bit.81.8264 
59DTA_int_0582.1181Oh yeah?82.5343
60DTA_se1_ag3_m_0182.7722Yeah.83.1075
61DTA_int_0583.9866Did you go into Golden Gloves and things like that?85.4755
62DTA_se1_ag3_m_0185.7594No. I never entered in the tournament, but87.3348
64 87.4874I fought in a tournament in the army.89.3669 
65DTA_int_0589.4706Oh yeah?89.9038
66DTA_se1_ag3_m_0190.0015Yeah.90.3371
67DTA_int_0593.9212Did you have to- uh, that's pretty, uh, rough sport isn't it?97.0516
68DTA_se1_ag3_m_0197.0760Yes it is.97.6801
70 98.3819You have to like it though.99.4799 
72 99.8399I used to like it.100.5844 
74 101.1458So I still- I still do.102.4516 
75DTA_int_05104.9761Have to be in good condition for it huh?106.2575
76DTA_se1_ag3_m_01106.6115At all times. [<laugh>]107.7645
77DTA_int_05107.5998[<laugh>]108.3015
78DTA_se1_ag3_m_01108.2465And I said your, uh, condition tells on you.110.1566
79DTA_int_05110.3091Yeah.110.5674
80DTA_se1_ag3_m_01110.5532It really does.111.1817
81DTA_int_05113.0814Did you ever get your nose broken or anything like that?114.8938
82DTA_se1_ag3_m_01114.9609I had it broken once.115.9755
83DTA_int_05116.0304<laugh>117.3345
85 118.9755No teeth knocked out though huh?120.2150 
86DTA_se1_ag3_m_01120.1930No teeth, no.120.9316
87 121.3893And I was working with a light heavyweight we were j- we was in the gym.124.1718
88DTA_int_05124.3039Yeah?124.6518
90 125.8661[And you.]126.1468 
91DTA_se1_ag3_m_01125.9464[Just] pushed over.126.9472
92DTA_int_05127.0509It wasn't actually during a match, uh, [you were just] working out. [<laugh>]129.2566
93DTA_se1_ag3_m_01128.3018[No.]128.7290
95 129.1012[This was] just working out. Yeah.130.2240 
96 130.7783Working with him for f- for speed.132.4625
97DTA_int_05132.6577[Yeah?]133.1454
98DTA_se1_ag3_m_01132.8110[<laugh>]133.1344
99 134.2682I guess he got carried away and135.7733
101 136.8229hit too hard. Well he was- he was heavy at that time, I was only weighing139.3076 
103 139.6738hundred and forty-five.140.6623 
104DTA_int_05140.8576Yeah.141.0712
106 141.5660[For the light] heavys, it would start at what- what weight?143.6953 
107DTA_se1_ag3_m_01141.6326[He.]141.9133
108 144.4153Uh.145.0683
110 145.7212Anything over a hundred and sixty.147.0565 
111DTA_int_05147.3189Oh yeah? (laughing)148.3441
113 149.6744Was he also taller than you with a longer reach? And all the rest [of it?]151.9915 
114DTA_se1_ag3_m_01151.8857[Yeah he] was taller.152.7583
115 154.3182Longer reach.155.0688
117 155.4959[/But see-/]155.9475 
118DTA_int_05155.5509[But you're] not so very short yourself are you?157.2473
119DTA_se1_ag3_m_01157.3144I'm five nine.158.2419
120DTA_int_05160.2374That's pretty good height though isn't it?161.4570
121DTA_se1_ag3_m_01162.3052Well they claim it's the heighth of the average man.164.4293
122DTA_int_05164.4525[<laugh> So you're listed average huh?]166.3380
123DTA_se1_ag3_m_01164.7334[<laugh>]165.5205
125 166.1000[Pretty] average yeah.166.9177 
126DTA_int_05166.9177[<laugh>]169.0653
127DTA_se1_ag3_m_01168.6491[<laugh>]169.1006
128DTA_int_05169.2105Good.169.4851
130 170.4421Yeah, you boxed in the army.171.6261 
132 171.7793How many years were you in there?173.0843 
133DTA_se1_ag3_m_01173.4626Uh. About three years.174.5816
134DTA_int_05174.9782And that was during the [War?]176.1134
135DTA_se1_ag3_m_01175.9180[During] the- during World War Two.177.2502
136DTA_int_05177.3031Uh-huh. [See any] overseas duty?178.7931
137DTA_se1_ag3_m_01177.8483[Mm-hm.]178.1603
138 179.0871Yes. I was in England,180.1793
139DTA_int_05180.4051Uh-huh.180.6675
140DTA_se1_ag3_m_01180.6370France and Germany.181.5586
141DTA_int_05181.7905See any hot shooting?182.7424
143 184.2597See some hot shooting? Were you on the front [lines?]186.3528 
144DTA_se1_ag3_m_01186.2063[No.]186.8104
145 187.1766Well we- we- we- we was right behind the line, we wasn't too cl-189.5858
147 189.7148I was in quartermaster.190.8651 
148DTA_int_05190.9441Oh yeah.191.4139
149DTA_se1_ag3_m_01191.5543Mm-hm.191.9448
150DTA_int_05192.6343Support personnel huh?193.6851
151DTA_se1_ag3_m_01193.7816Mm-hm.194.1660
152DTA_int_05195.2095That's a- that's a- that's a responsible position though, isn't it, huh? [Quartermaster?]197.9348
153DTA_se1_ag3_m_01197.5105[Oh yeah.]197.9865
154 199.3700They handle all the supplies, taking 'em up and all.201.6949
156 203.0857Handle all the supply.204.0829 
157DTA_int_05205.9593I suppose that was a major problem too during that uh.208.1378
158DTA_se1_ag3_m_01209.2056Yeah.209.5779
159DTA_int_05210.0477You went-210.4788
161 210.6817you went over after Normandy huh and then [/inaudible/]212.9822 
162DTA_se1_ag3_m_01212.5001[Mm-hm.]213.0005
163 214.2636So we landed I think the sixth215.7717
165 216.6382of June217.1813 
167 217.3460and I think the invasion was the fourth.218.8899 
168DTA_int_05219.1613Uh-huh.219.4819
170 221.8800Isn't that uh when they coined the name the Red Ball express was [it?]224.9391 
171DTA_se1_ag3_m_01224.8110[Yeah] they had that r- Red Ball express.226.5333
172 226.7792Yeah.226.9758
174 228.4769That was in France.229.3251 
175DTA_int_05232.4166I suppose you saw all the- all the effects of the war though huh?234.7476
176DTA_se1_ag3_m_01234.9002Oh yeah.235.4860
177DTA_int_05238.0779Pretty sad, huh?238.7873
178DTA_se1_ag3_m_01238.8529Rough. Rough.239.7865
180 241.5439Horrible at time.242.6362 
182 244.6378Cause I know, we- we went right through246.4501 
184 249.0928St. /?/ I believe it was. All you could see, women, children all hanging on /one's/-253.6547 
186 254.1010bombing, you know, and all255.1750 
188 255.8157buildings all torn out, just a hole, you know.258.2688 
190 260.7014Really shakes you up.261.4153 
191DTA_int_05261.9666Yeah it does. You think it'll ever happen over here?263.7057
192DTA_se1_ag3_m_01264.2244I doubt it.264.9628
193DTA_int_05266.2194Sure hope not [anyhow.]267.2019
194DTA_se1_ag3_m_01266.9612[/In time/.]267.5863
195DTA_int_05267.5863It's bad enough the way it is [/?/ <laugh>]268.7762
196DTA_se1_ag3_m_01268.4528[Really.]268.8677
197DTA_int_05269.2371[<laugh>]269.4446
198DTA_se1_ag3_m_01269.3775[But] I don't think this country could stand it though.270.9425
199DTA_int_05271.2311Yeah.271.5423
200DTA_se1_ag3_m_01271.9084I really don't.272.5431
201DTA_int_05272.5919Think it would really go to pieces huh?273.8977
202DTA_se1_ag3_m_01276.5350Yeah, I think we live a little too soft over here.278.4122
204 278.7600You know.279.0834 
206 279.4007Especially women. Now- Now- (coughing) the mens have it kind of rough, but282.1162 
208 282.6708I don't think the American women could go through a lot of stuff the peoples over seas go through.286.1124 
210 287.3694Maybe they- they might can, after you're under pressure, you can't hardly say though, but that just is- just the way I see it, you know.292.2274 
211DTA_int_05292.5212Uh-huh.292.9300
213 296.1337Tell me, do you watch TV much?297.4029 
214DTA_se1_ag3_m_01298.8011Yeah. Sometime. I used to. I don't watch too much now.301.5105
215DTA_int_05301.7135Yeah.302.2084
217 303.5990When was used to?304.4411 
218DTA_se1_ag3_m_01305.8242Oh about306.3625
220 306.9633three or four months ago.307.8825 
221DTA_int_05308.4945Three or four months.309.3244
222DTA_se1_ag3_m_01310.0383Yes [but.]310.5898
223misc310.1302[Excuse me,] where are your cigarettes?311.4190
224DTA_int_05317.7836All you got left huh?318.6579
225DTA_se1_ag3_m_01318.8836[<laugh>]319.2925
226DTA_int_05318.8881[<laugh>]320.8022
227 321.1274Gee I'm sorry I [don't smoke,] otherwise I'd be glad to [contribute some. <laugh>]324.1973
228misc321.9102[It's /inaudible/.]322.5212
229DTA_se1_ag3_m_01321.9529[Mm.]322.2946
230 323.3442[<laugh>]323.7752
231misc324.2578There's two.324.9718
232DTA_int_05325.3323<laugh>325.5885
234 326.1560[It's.]326.4085 
235misc326.1560[I'd like] to stop smoking myself.327.8124
236DTA_int_05330.3464Why? Why do you wanna stop smoking?331.6001
238 332.4666You enjoy it don't you?333.3087 
239misc333.7968Mm-hm.334.2484
241 337.2975Uh. Actually, it's a release of339.3967 
243 339.9154nervous tension. I get nervous and I smoke. Um.342.1034 
245 342.7810<ts>342.8847 
247 343.9036Say, six, seven cigarettes in about an hour and a half.346.6636 
249 347.4577But if I'm calm and everything, I smoke349.2518 
251 349.8962once in a while, you know, about350.8925 
253 351.3502a package a day.352.0315 
254DTA_int_05352.3388[<laugh>]353.1761
255misc352.4608[<laugh>]352.8330
256DTA_se1_ag3_m_01352.4852[<laugh>]352.8147
257DTA_int_05356.6911Yeah.357.0844
259 358.1556Well, anyhow, going back to TV, you- you don't watch it much huh? You ever watch specials or anything like that?362.2178 
260DTA_se1_ag3_m_01362.4907Watch what? [Specials?]363.5952
261DTA_int_05363.0887[Specials.] Mm-hm.363.8647
262DTA_se1_ag3_m_01363.8576Not too much.364.5726
263DTA_int_05364.9499News?365.8052
265 366.0345Election [coverage?]366.9912 
266DTA_se1_ag3_m_01366.5579[Well, I-] I'll watch news quite a bit. Yeah, I used to. But now I369.7188
267 370.1399ever since it's warm, you know.371.4599
268DTA_int_05371.8060Yeah.372.0073
269DTA_se1_ag3_m_01372.5197I- I- I don't stay in the house too much.374.2059
270DTA_int_05374.2120It's cooler out here huh?375.0856
271DTA_se1_ag3_m_01375.1161Oh yeah.375.4456
272DTA_int_05377.3847Gee, looks like you keep your uh patio379.3503
274 379.8301w- washed down pretty thoroughly [all the time. ]381.7318 
275DTA_se1_ag3_m_01381.1725[Y-] Well, we just- yeah- we just made this one, just put it in.384.3564
276DTA_int_05384.5334Oh yeah?384.8751
277DTA_se1_ag3_m_01384.9239Mm.385.3694
278DTA_int_05385.7376It's one way to keep the dust down huh?386.7912
279DTA_se1_ag3_m_01386.8072Yeah. This my first job,388.2046
281 388.3877trying [to finish] the cement. Yeah.390.0658 
282DTA_int_05388.6014[/Oh yeah?/]389.0643
283 390.6693Looks like you had some artists at work too huh? [<laugh>.]393.0064
284DTA_se1_ag3_m_01392.5671[It so- yeah. Some] of the kids, they wanted to394.3308
285DTA_int_05394.4847<laugh>.395.2780
286DTA_se1_ag3_m_01395.2780inscribe the names of 'em, go ahead.396.7303
287DTA_int_05400.1194Well, that's alright.400.7480
288DTA_se1_ag3_m_01401.6694Now this side's a little bit better than that one over there. This was first one I put in.405.1176
290 406.4413All d- I done it all last week, I finish up Saturday.409.1340 
291DTA_int_05410.6253That's one thing about concrete, you don't have to mow it, no fertilizer for it. [<laugh>.]414.1481
292DTA_se1_ag3_m_01413.0215[Yeah. That's right.]414.0617
293DTA_int_05414.8490<laugh>.415.1955
294DTA_se1_ag3_m_01415.2273I put this one in thicker416.4783
296 417.4761I didn't mi- mix it as /much/ as I did this side.419.8145 
297DTA_int_05420.1562[Oh yeah?]420.3332
298DTA_se1_ag3_m_01420.2380[See,] I saw my mistakes over there and I tried to correct it over here.422.8351
299 424.2621So I did a little bit better job here.425.7328
300DTA_int_05426.2734Mm-hm.426.7262
302 428.4113I take it cement work's not your normal occupation [is it?]430.9249 
303DTA_se1_ag3_m_01430.6081[No, it isn't. <laugh>.]431.8286
304DTA_int_05431.1024[<laugh>.]432.9402
305 434.6474Yeah.434.8792
306DTA_se1_ag3_m_01437.9264My occupation in fact is a tractor driver, high-lift operator.440.7713
307DTA_int_05441.0182Oh yeah? High-lift?441.9378
308DTA_se1_ag3_m_01442.0843[Mm-hm.]442.4134
309DTA_int_05442.0904[Operate] in a factory?442.9688
310DTA_se1_ag3_m_01442.9935Mm-hm.443.3718
311DTA_int_05443.6891Which factory is this?444.5150
312DTA_se1_ag3_m_01444.7652/RD-WORK-3/.445.4242
313DTA_int_05445.6598Mm-hm446.0028
314DTA_se1_ag3_m_01446.3639But I've been off now since last August ninth.448.9777
315DTA_int_05449.1120Oh yeah?449.5624
317 450.5643Production slowed down [/is it?/]451.7757 
318DTA_se1_ag3_m_01451.5682[No.] They say I got a kidney infection or [something.]453.7833
319DTA_int_05453.6247[Oh] the kidney. [Those things are] bad huh?455.2358
320DTA_se1_ag3_m_01454.3586[Mm.]454.7064
321 457.2297Taken almost a year to get it cleared up.459.0356
322DTA_int_05460.2744It's better now though huh?461.3834
323DTA_se1_ag3_m_01461.5177It's better. I went to doctor. I went to hospital here463.5849
325 464.7077Sunday night actually.466.1514 
327 466.9001Yeah. Sunday night.467.6278 
329 467.9064<ts> I had a bad headache, I couldn't get rid of it, and I called my doctor.470.5049 
331 471.2799Well, the onliest one-472.1281 
333 472.4576one of the doctors at th- in the office, it wasn't nobody in the office that's doing the- we called the calling service and he476.3006 
334DTA_int_05476.4612Yeah.476.6809
335DTA_se1_ag3_m_01476.7053told me to meet him at the /Ziegler/ Hospital over there.478.4383
337 479.1838And we went over there. He didn't show up, but another doctor gave me a shot for headache,482.0617 
339 482.9611finally stopped.483.9131 
340DTA_int_05484.2609Yeah.484.4623
341DTA_se1_ag3_m_01484.9321So he checked my urine. It wasn't no /albumin/ it was showing487.8861
343 488.1607all before.488.9845 
344DTA_int_05489.1248Uh-huh.489.4177
345DTA_se1_ag3_m_01489.5705But he said it was negative, it wasn't nothing.491.0525
347 491.7177That was Sunday night.492.5842 
348DTA_int_05492.9732Those kidney infections can really be dynamite can't they? huh?495.2371
349DTA_se1_ag3_m_01495.2859Uh-huh.495.7314
350DTA_int_05497.3163This one just about killed you did it?498.4635
351DTA_se1_ag3_m_01498.7808No, it didn't bother me too much.500.2508
352DTA_int_05501.2832Just hard to get rid of huh?502.1192
353DTA_se1_ag3_m_01502.1993Mm-hm.502.5533
355 503.2306It was discovered at the plant.504.2558 
356DTA_int_05505.1154Oh yeah?505.4213
358 506.2573You had headaches or something like that?507.3729 
359DTA_se1_ag3_m_01507.9587No. I didn't have n-509.0937
361 509.5270I- my back used to pain510.9475 
363 511.0926some, so, by driving those tractors, there's a rough ride anyway you know.514.8451 
365 515.4920So whenever it started hurting, I just put on my- I had a wide safety belt to give you.518.8358 
367 519.2995I put the belt on and worked two or three days, I'd take it off, it didn't bother me so much.523.2419 
369 524.2915So I went to get my license renewed.525.9146 
370DTA_int_05526.2456Yeah?526.5004
371DTA_se1_ag3_m_01526.4943And they gave me a physical and they discover I had /albumin/ in my urine.529.4261
372 530.0180So I went to the hospital and they531.4398
374 531.7144checked me to try to see where it was coming from, they checked my bladder and all checked.534.6401 
376 535.1587Third examination, they said only place that they could see where it was coming from538.3350 
378 538.9880was my kidneys.539.9216 
379DTA_int_05539.9445Yeah?540.2736
380DTA_se1_ag3_m_01541.3205So they've been treating it ever since, but542.8033
382 544.1458it go up and down, up and down.545.6703 
384 546.5077Well Sunday I went over to the hospital, they give me another test and they said it was all cleared away.550.4663 
386 551.9064Sometime ago, it wasn't /coming/ though, you know.553.6028 
387DTA_int_05553.8559Hm.554.0896
388DTA_se1_ag3_m_01554.4112And I can't go back to work until it's555.7018
390 556.7861just about clear. Now, they told me they will uh, accept me back if it's showing just a little.561.1605 
392 562.2378But now when I- I was out there last Monday evening,564.6286 
394 565.0907a week ago.565.7653 
396 566.7538And they said it was just about as high as it could go.569.2139 
398 569.5191[But]569.8242 
399DTA_int_05569.5191[Oh yeah?]569.9955
400DTA_se1_ag3_m_01570.0185Yeah.570.3175
402 571.2082After almost a year.572.3371 
404 573.8199Now, I was surprised Sunday I went over there and he say it was575.7933 
406 576.2327all cleared away,577.0015 
408 578.7786So I'm waiting on my doctor now to write me a letter580.9692 
410 582.6534to go back to work.583.4157 
412 584.7251He wrote me one i- well he didn't write a letter they give me a little587.2718 
414 587.8987something on a prescription. I carried- they wouldn't accept it, they wanted the full detail, you know.591.6271 
415DTA_int_05591.8295Yeah.592.1407
416DTA_se1_ag3_m_01592.5923So592.9462
418 593.7312I- I went back Monday evening595.2140 
420 596.2514and I told 'em about it.597.2700 
422 598.0915They say he'll try to have it ready by Wednesday. So, Wednesday, didn't have that ready, so we called in602.0274 
424 602.5522Friday.603.1868 
426 603.7793It wasn't ready. We called in Saturday, he was gone on a long vacation. So we gotta wait two weeks til he come back.607.7501 
428 608.0186I'm going back up there today. Maybe I can get some uh other doctor-610.5266 
430 610.6799I-610.7990 
432 611.1590doctor to wait on me.612.0673 
434 612.9352Something- see I've- it's about four or five doctors615.2662 
436 616.2120in the office I've been at. All of 'em wait on me but except one.618.8020 
437DTA_int_05619.0262Mm.619.2238
439 619.4484[Yeah.]619.8023 
440DTA_se1_ag3_m_01619.5765[But all] the rest of 'em, when- when we call, they claim they didn't know anything about the case, you know. [So I got]623.0817
441DTA_int_05622.7341[Uh-huh.]623.0817
442DTA_se1_ag3_m_01624.2350/can't/ wait until this uh, doctor come back from his vacation.627.0984
443DTA_int_05627.6965Makes it sort of hard to make a living that way [doesn't it?]629.2769
444DTA_se1_ag3_m_01629.1060[Really.]629.5881
445DTA_int_05631.6935You think this driving the tractor actually contributes to your kidney problems?634.5596
446DTA_se1_ag3_m_01636.1855I don't know. It could have.637.5767
448 637.9400So I was aksing the doctor did he think so, he said well,640.0987 
450 640.3916he didn't think so. He say it coulda happen a million different ways he said.642.9153 
452 643.5682Maybe my- uh, I- I coulda been jarred some way the kidney tilted and wasn't thrown off a ways, and build up,649.2076 
454 649.3419like that, you know. Mm-hm.650.5806 
455DTA_int_05650.5623Hm.650.8186
456DTA_se1_ag3_m_01651.1969He said ca- a lot of things could've caused it, but he didn't say- he- he- didn't think the tractor had anything to do with it.656.0169
457DTA_int_05657.7573Don't uh, truck drivers /?/ problems with their kidneys as well?660.3387
458DTA_se1_ag3_m_01660.3693Boy, they have trouble with their back, I don't know about their kidneys, a lot of 'em though.662.8901
460 663.2440I drove a truck for a short while once, as a part time job.665.9722 
462 666.4632My back used to bother me then, you know, shaking up and down, there's a lot of669.6054 
464 670.4658rough riding.671.2652 
465DTA_int_05672.5560Yeah.672.9222
467 674.5019Yeah, that's too bad.675.2431 
469 677.5192Those forklift trucks- trucks all burn propane nowadays do they?680.3860 
471 680.5508Is an [inside factory?]681.8652 
472DTA_se1_ag3_m_01681.0232[Mm.]681.9324
473 682.6758It's inside, but we drive in and out,684.2457
475 684.3505you know, it's-684.7739 
477 684.9553large place. /Yeah./ Some-686.2578 
479 686.4591we used to have the propane.687.7144 
481 688.8127At first it started with gasoline,690.2873 
483 690.6784so then they got the idea that propane probably was better so they went to the propane.694.7727 
485 695.0757<ts> And during the winters, they had trouble with it freezing up.697.2481 
486DTA_int_05697.4799Oh yeah?697.8827
487DTA_se1_ag3_m_01697.8949And I'd shut the tank off and the carburetor would699.8247
489 700.1361moist up, so you'd have to take701.4785 
491 701.9423hot brick or something to heat 'em to thaw 'em out, you see.704.3586 
493 705.0985So they got away from the propane and went to a diesel.707.0573 
495 707.7878That's wa-708.2332 
497 708.6482it was better.709.5147 
499 710.0700But even uh710.8388 
501 711.0585cold weather, leave 'em sitting outside, you have trouble starting 'em then. You had to have the /?/ diesel to start it.715.0650 
502DTA_int_05715.9315Well, if you're in a building with all those fumes, that's pretty rough isn't it?718.8932
503DTA_se1_ag3_m_01719.1800Well,719.7690
505 720.0501it's not too bad.720.8983 
506DTA_int_05721.1668Not too bad huh?721.8686
507DTA_se1_ag3_m_01721.8686/But/ of course, the building's all large, you know.724.1093
508DTA_int_05724.1765Yeah.724.5663
509DTA_se1_ag3_m_01725.3774Mm. Draft comes in and out.727.0049
510DTA_int_05728.4091Mm-hm.728.7447
512 730.1796You know, I had a friend that had a real problem with that working in one of those factories.734.0849 
513DTA_se1_ag3_m_01735.3710The only problem we have, sometime we ha- we work with the738.1170
515 738.7300the one with the bucket on the front.740.1396 
517 740.9695Unload this741.7018 
519 743.3719manganese had to put it into the steel, well i- w-745.7762 
521 746.0360they unload that of a box car747.4578 
523 747.7507well, you get quite a bit of fumes there inside the car, you know.749.9211 
525 750.2340Both those be open with steel, they-751.4667 
526DTA_int_05751.6619[Yeah.]752.0280
527DTA_se1_ag3_m_01751.8877[small] area, you- you get some fumes, you know.753.8160
528DTA_int_05755.1070I th- I had thought- I was talking to a guy here who worked here for a propane company, uh759.6432
530 760.0276he said that- the unions required it if you were operating forklifts inside a building, it had to be propane, isn't that right?766.2874 
531DTA_se1_ag3_m_01767.0075No.767.3431
532DTA_int_05768.0983Doesn't have to be huh?768.8000
533DTA_se1_ag3_m_01768.8366Don't have to be, no.769.5628
534DTA_int_05769.8313But you're a union member, aren't you?771.1118
535DTA_se1_ag3_m_01771.1972[Yes.]771.6477
536DTA_int_05771.5024[Mm-hm.]771.8990
537 772.5153I thought that's what the case was?773.9554
538DTA_se1_ag3_m_01775.9943Maybe a small building.777.1598
539DTA_int_05777.2818[Yeah.]777.6296
540DTA_se1_ag3_m_01777.5930[You] know, maybe if it's /oversee-/778.8012
541 779.3504in a steel mill, it's all large and all the buildings are real large [you know.]782.5424
542DTA_int_05782.2739[Yeah.]782.6217
543DTA_se1_ag3_m_01782.8414And so it's got plenty of draft784.4029
545 785.0620ventilation [in there.]785.8553 
546DTA_int_05785.5440[<laugh>] /inaudible/786.3251
547DTA_se1_ag3_m_01786.4045Just hot around the furnaces788.0677
549 788.5010where they melting steel, you know.789.6787 
550DTA_int_05789.7458Yeah.790.0701
551DTA_se1_ag3_m_01792.3100I imagine in something like a warehouse, maybe, you know, something small794.8962
552DTA_int_05795.2257Yeah.795.5613
553DTA_se1_ag3_m_01795.9641might require797.4042
555 797.8435propane.798.4537 
556DTA_int_05799.9329Yeah, maybe.800.5714
557DTA_se1_ag3_m_01800.8850Hm.801.1840
559 801.7269<ts>801.8184 
561 802.2395But all large areas, you803.3802 
563 803.5455wa- you- you use most anything. Propane, gasoline, you know.806.8581 
565 807.2974Cause we had 'em all.808.1203 
567 811.8844And they got away from the gasoline it's claimed because the engine in the propane lasts longer.815.8996 
569 816.5281Now well, they run twenty-four hours a day, those machines and the- engines burn out pretty quick, [you know.]820.4929 
570DTA_int_05820.1085[Yeah.]820.4337
571DTA_se1_ag3_m_01821.6689Of course it's three turns.823.1778
573 823.9711Days, afternoons, and midnights, and each turn we use the same machines, it continues going, you see.828.1114 
575 828.8132Well they said the uh, propane830.2957 
577 830.4971engine held up longer831.7419 
579 832.4742than the gasoline.833.3163 
581 833.8077They had so much trouble out of propane then they went back to- went to diesel.837.1455 
582DTA_int_05838.8348[Mm-hm.]839.0966
583DTA_se1_ag3_m_01838.8714[They said] they was probably get 'em all diesel. Then they- well then they went back to some with gasoline. Some of the new ones they bought, one or two was gasoline.845.0128
584DTA_int_05845.1409Right.845.4172
585DTA_se1_ag3_m_01846.6481I don't know whether they847.7336
587 849.0273having that much trouble, or maybe they get a better deal from different companies buying different machines I guess, I [don't know.]854.0178 
588DTA_int_05853.6997[Yeah.]853.9599
589 854.7378Uh-huh.855.1101
591 856.9126Well,857.3581 
593 859.1399tell me, when you were a kid, did you have a pet?860.7361 
594DTA_se1_ag3_m_01861.8222I had a dog, yeah.862.7924
596 863.7026/Well had a/ <laugh>864.7443 
597DTA_int_05864.9833Mm-hm.865.3057
599 866.9899Did you uh867.6067 
601 867.9985you grew up here in Detroit did you?869.1623 
602DTA_se1_ag3_m_01869.1745No.869.5435
603DTA_int_05869.6903Yeah?869.8608
604DTA_se1_ag3_m_01869.9096I grew up in- in Virginia.871.0141
605DTA_int_05871.2704Uh-huh.871.6003
607 872.7399Out in the country?873.3649 
608DTA_se1_ag3_m_01873.6711No, this was a small town.874.7391
609DTA_int_05876.3013Mm-hm. /Dog/ out there. You really like this dog?878.1046
610DTA_se1_ag3_m_01878.8735W- Oh yeah.879.5142
612 881.1393Well, I was small though when I had this idea when I went- now see now.884.1782 
614 885.1012I got about f-886.2606 
616 887.2431fourteen, I had a d-888.5734 
618 889.1151German police.890.0304 
620 891.1654We kept him for a good while, I- I rather I was real attached to him, then he got killed. He got- He got killed by-895.3149 
622 895.9252We had him about two years after and then he finally got killed [once.]898.7170 
623DTA_int_05898.6316[Yeah?]898.9184
624DTA_se1_ag3_m_01899.7080And after that, we couldn't afford any more dogs, til here recently.902.6004
625DTA_int_05903.9001Kids have a dog do they?904.6747
626DTA_se1_ag3_m_01904.7785Yeah, we got two, German Shepherds out there now.906.5725
628 906.7800[pen out there now.]907.5061 
629DTA_int_05906.9785[Oh yeah.]907.3079
630 907.9577That's a major proposition, feeding 'em isn't it?909.6523
631DTA_se1_ag3_m_01909.8292Oh it is, they each quite a bit.911.0314
633 911.4463[<laugh>]911.8002 
634DTA_int_05911.6936[<laugh>]912.3311
635 915.5601Yeah, I guess you don't- you're not bothered with anybody coming around and918.2145
637 918.7149looking in the windows at night [though huh?]920.2160 
638DTA_se1_ag3_m_01919.8255[Mm. Not] too much, [no.]921.0302
639DTA_int_05920.9768[<laugh>]921.7883
640DTA_se1_ag3_m_01921.9104Plus that one is a922.8501
642 923.0515pretty good sized dog. See that- that's a puppy there, she's [about]925.3205 
643DTA_int_05925.1069[Oh yeah.]925.6195
644DTA_se1_ag3_m_01926.7362about eight months old now, that one. The other one's two years old. That- the other big one is the mother.930.3349
645DTA_int_05930.7560Yeah?930.9899
647 932.6505You raise 'em, do you?933.3522 
648DTA_se1_ag3_m_01933.5170/?/933.7550
649DTA_int_05934.4689You- you try to raise uh, pups from [her?]936.0747
650DTA_se1_ag3_m_01935.9770[Mm.] No. She just-937.6795
651 938.3874she got in heat, some dog got to her and she had puppy. I did- I wouldn't intend for her to941.7856
653 942.0601have any, no.942.7741 
655 943.4392Cause one's enough.944.4446 
656DTA_int_05944.5422[<laugh>]945.5308
657DTA_se1_ag3_m_01945.3111[And] she had eight946.0861
658 946.2874in the litter and all the kids tw-947.7625
660 948.0044each one wanted to keep one, said [no.]950.0907 
661DTA_int_05949.9687[<laugh>]951.7017
662DTA_se1_ag3_m_01951.4397[It's] pick one who maybe we'll keep953.1972
663 953.5539the mother and one other one, besides that's too much.955.8930
664DTA_int_05956.3324<laugh>956.6985
666 957.6321<laugh>958.3400 
668 959.7894So you had to give the rest away, huh?960.8955 
669DTA_se1_ag3_m_01961.2661Mm-hm.961.7338
670DTA_int_05964.6341<ts> Yeah.965.5372
672 968.4070Yeah.969.1027 
674 969.8777Tell me uh, when you were a kid was there any way you could get a wish?972.3368 
676 973.7008Make a wish come true?974.5917 
677DTA_se1_ag3_m_01976.3674Mm. I never did try, I don't think too much.978.2982
678DTA_int_05979.0000You had this business though about uh, for instance, the uh, chicken bone, huh?982.0737
679DTA_se1_ag3_m_01983.3024Well yeah. We- we used to984.4069
681 985.0122tries a lot of time, pull on it, would catch the wishbone.987.8008 
682DTA_int_05989.1677Didn't help though?989.8025
683DTA_se1_ag3_m_01990.1912Mm. I don't think so. I didn't pay too much attention to it anyway, uh you know.992.9267
684DTA_int_05992.9755Huh.993.1464
686 996.1472Yeah.996.4630 
688 999.2466You went to school in Virginia did you?1000.7675 
689DTA_se1_ag3_m_011000.7761Yes.1001.1544
690DTA_int_051001.5023Uh. What was your school like down there?1002.7873
691DTA_se1_ag3_m_011005.5143Oh.1006.0086
693 1008.4494Wasn't too bad.1009.2030 
695 1009.7126They- they had pretty nice schools there.1011.1970 
697 1011.7218<ts>1011.7828 
698DTA_int_051012.6310<ts> When I was a kid I went to one of these uh1014.6861
700 1015.6014I guess it was1016.1567 
702 1017.4703three grades in one room I guess it was.1019.2033 
704 1019.8684Three grades at once. Or maybe it was even more, four grades.1022.3617 
705DTA_se1_ag3_m_011022.8926We only had one grade1023.9477
706DTA_int_051024.2894You only [had.]1024.6942
707DTA_se1_ag3_m_011024.5884[one room.]1025.2414
708DTA_int_051025.5970I was way out in the country. [I was] raised in British Columbia, Canada.1028.8707
709DTA_se1_ag3_m_011026.9424[Oh huh.]1027.2841
710 1030.2253This little small town.1031.5134
711DTA_int_051031.7880Yeah.1032.1325
713 1033.9362We used to have grade one would sit in one row and grade [two in another row] and grade three in another row and so on and so forth.1039.0038 
714DTA_se1_ag3_m_011036.3860[<ts> Oh yeah.]1036.9779
715 1039.0953So they built a new school, it's pretty good sized.1041.2391
716DTA_int_051041.3185Yeah.1041.6236
718 1047.7767What are some of the items of furniture you could see from your desk in the classroom when you were a kid?1051.2000 
719DTA_se1_ag3_m_011053.2291What is what?1053.7782
720DTA_int_051054.2847What are some of the pieces of furniture that you could see1056.7297
722 1057.0897from your desk1057.6688 
724 1058.2729as a kid1058.7649 
726 1059.2548in the classroom?1059.8672 
727DTA_se1_ag3_m_011062.5108Uh. Couldn't see anything but the1063.6946
729 1064.3962teacher's desk up [front.]1065.4824 
730DTA_int_051065.2187[Uh-huh.]1065.4824
731 1066.0926Did she have something to sit on?1066.9652
732DTA_se1_ag3_m_011067.5027Yeah, she had a chair.1068.3816
733DTA_int_051068.3882Mm-hm.1068.6581
735 1069.2181She had something at the front though /uh/ write on did she?1071.6711 
736DTA_se1_ag3_m_011072.8366To write on?1073.4596
737DTA_int_051073.4596Yeah1073.9327
738DTA_se1_ag3_m_011074.3078Was it a blackboard on the wall?1075.7135
739DTA_int_051075.7074Mm-hm.1076.0369
740DTA_se1_ag3_m_011076.1162Yes.1076.4790
741DTA_int_051077.3882Well, i- you understand we're just interested in the [way you say] these words. That's [/why/ we're] after 'em, you know.1081.2816
742DTA_se1_ag3_m_011078.9992[Mm-hm.]1079.4141
744 1080.0367[Mm-hm.]1080.3720 
745DTA_int_051081.9048If I pronounce 'em for you, you know, it's sort of- might influence your [pronunciation], so uh we don't do it that way.1086.3893
746DTA_se1_ag3_m_011084.5121[Oh yeah.]1085.0674
747DTA_int_051088.3166And i- if you step outside the classroom, you're in what part of the building?1091.3557
748DTA_se1_ag3_m_011091.8996Hallway.1092.5526
749DTA_int_051092.6075Mm-hm.1093.0346
751 1093.6021And if you were thirsty, you would go to the?1095.5609 
752DTA_se1_ag3_m_011095.6646Fountain.1096.0976
753DTA_int_051096.0976Mm-hm.1096.5301
755 1096.9641And uh.1097.8978 
757 1098.4104Did you have uh, things out in the hallway to keep your stuff in?1101.0112 
758DTA_se1_ag3_m_011103.4605No. We left our things in the desk. I don't think there was no lockers, no.1106.7784
759DTA_int_051107.0400No.1107.2940
761 1108.2649Nowadays, most of the- at least, the high schools have [lockers.]1110.1138 
762DTA_se1_ag3_m_011109.6684[Have lockers] yeah.1110.5778
763DTA_int_051110.5778Mm-hm.1110.8290
765 1111.4321Yeah.1111.6396 
767 1112.5174Uh. I-1113.1032 
769 1114.2870In the playground, uh, they used to have what kinds of equipment at your school?1117.2001 
771 1118.5670Or what do you see, what kinds of equipment do you see in playgrounds, sinc- for instance in the city of Detroit?1122.2284 
773 1122.6069/inaudible/1123.2929 
774DTA_se1_ag3_m_011126.5226Hm.1127.1636
776 1127.6112I never paid too much [attention.]1128.9879 
777DTA_int_051128.7438[<laugh>]1129.7324
778DTA_se1_ag3_m_011129.5737[<laugh>]1129.7446
779DTA_int_051130.5215They have these things you- you go back and forth on like this.1132.9074
781 1133.6612They are the-1134.3414 
783 1136.1717[The kids always] want you to push 'em on 'em.1137.4104 
784DTA_se1_ag3_m_011136.2547[Mm.]1136.6368
785 1139.0304Well, we used to live off1140.1349
787 1140.6230<ts>1140.7338 
789 1140.9840behind the playground here on Elmwood.1142.8120 
790DTA_int_051142.9768Yeah.1143.3246
791DTA_se1_ag3_m_011144.1667They had one thing they called a swinging gate.1145.8952
792DTA_int_051146.2552Uh-huh.1146.6641
793DTA_se1_ag3_m_011148.3788And they had swings.1149.3596
794DTA_int_051149.5060Uh-huh.1149.9026
795DTA_se1_ag3_m_011151.1749Uh. And a slide [I think.] Yeah. [I think they] had a slide board and the swing.1154.2017
796DTA_int_051151.9471[/inaudible/]1152.1545
798 1152.5573[/inaudible/]1152.9234 
799 1155.7492How about the things that go up and down like this?1157.4868
801 1157.9139One kid on each end. Call that [a?]1159.6322 
802DTA_se1_ag3_m_011159.4889[A] teeter-tot or what1160.5033
803DTA_int_051160.5445Uh-huh.1160.8679
804DTA_se1_ag3_m_011161.4317No they- I don't think they had any.1162.9817
805DTA_int_051164.3822Do they have this, uh, you notice, nowadays, they- they put all these pipes together1167.9728
806DTA_se1_ag3_m_011168.3939[Oh. Yeah.]1169.1872
807DTA_int_051168.3939[and they.]1168.7654
808 1169.3709What do you call those?1170.1010
809DTA_se1_ag3_m_011170.7316Hm.1171.7324
811 1176.0216Hm. I [don't know. (laughing)]1176.8537 
812DTA_int_051176.4998[The one that] scares you [completely. I get it-] <laugh>1179.5165
813DTA_se1_ag3_m_011177.6552[Really.]1178.2023
814 1179.7424I know what you're talking about, the ones the, uh,1181.0661
816 1181.2010cause I used to go and climb through 'em myself. Climb up [and over] in different ones.1185.0748 
817DTA_int_051183.7639[Mm-hm.]1184.2093
818 1186.8868Mm-hm. You ever heard of the names like jungle gym?1188.6688
820 1189.4499[Monkey bars?]1190.2127 
821DTA_se1_ag3_m_011189.5415[Yeah.]1189.8738
823 1190.1578[I] ha- I've heard that.1191.1585 
824DTA_int_051191.5497Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Very good.1192.6236
826 1194.4728What do- what do the kids do around here after school's out?1197.0608 
827DTA_se1_ag3_m_011198.8243Around here?1199.3310
828DTA_int_051199.5507Yeah.1199.9044
829DTA_se1_ag3_m_011200.6672Well, most of 'em go up to the recreation center here. They ha- they have skating up there.1204.3911
831 1205.1758They have square dancing.1206.3352 
832DTA_int_051206.3574Mm-hm.1206.7444
834 1208.3565[How about when] you were a kid? What'd you used to do?1209.9297 
835DTA_se1_ag3_m_011208.4114[Yeah.]1208.8019
836 1211.5422Oh I used to fish a lot.1212.6894
837DTA_int_051213.0267Uh-huh.1213.4218
839 1215.6532I bet you miss that.1216.3367 
840DTA_se1_ag3_m_011216.8861/Well, you know./1217.3986
841DTA_int_051217.6000[<laugh>]1218.2224
842DTA_se1_ag3_m_011217.7465[I still go] once in a while now. (laughing)1219.4673
843DTA_int_051219.8334You have to go miles though here before you [can get anything to fish.]1222.6301
844DTA_se1_ag3_m_011221.6416[Well, not too far] /i-/ right down the river here.1224.2502
845DTA_int_051224.3448Yeah.1224.6773
846DTA_se1_ag3_m_011224.7140Down at the foot of Mount Elliott and /Lights/ Street there.1227.5702
847DTA_int_051227.7654And you fish in there /??/? (laughing)1229.1326
848DTA_se1_ag3_m_011229.2973Well, it's pretty good fishing. Well, for the last two or three weeks, I- I went a couple times, they wasn't biting too well.1233.8580
849DTA_int_051233.9330Yeah.1234.3523
851 1236.1018[I see.]1236.6510 
852DTA_se1_ag3_m_011236.1097[But]1236.3459
854 1236.6510it used to, uh, used to be good fishing down there though.1238.9901 
855DTA_int_051239.8736Something about fishing isn't there?1240.9853
856DTA_se1_ag3_m_011241.3880Well, i- it relax you for one thing. (laughing)1243.9257
857DTA_int_051243.9257<laugh>1244.3406
858DTA_se1_ag3_m_011244.3406You have to have patience for it though.1245.6270
859DTA_int_051245.6270<laugh>1246.5925
861 1250.4940Uh. When you were a kid, did you ever have a teacher that hollered at you a lot at you?1253.4492 
862DTA_se1_ag3_m_011253.5896No.1253.9862
864 1256.4636I was fortunate that the ones we had didn't. They didn't holler, it's pretty quiet.1259.9750 
865DTA_int_051260.1793/<laugh>/1260.5892
867 1261.4424You remember any teacher you could describe as the best teacher you ever had?1264.4121 
868DTA_se1_ag3_m_011269.4802Well, let's see.1270.4199
870 1272.9325Ms. /RD-NAME-1/ I think, the- the last one I had was about the best one, I think.1276.2033 
871DTA_int_051276.5389Why'd you like her?1277.2284
872DTA_se1_ag3_m_011278.0440Uh. She was easy to get along with. She take a lot of patience with you. Cause I was seen to be hardly learn [anyway. <laugh>]1283.3171
873DTA_int_051282.2797[<laugh> ]1283.3964
874 1285.7509/Yeah/.1286.0560
875DTA_se1_ag3_m_011286.4527I didn't buckle down like I should anyways, you know. Well.1289.2735
877 1289.8654Play a lot, I used to talk a lot [and]1291.7865 
878DTA_int_051291.5485[/inaudible/]1291.8231
879DTA_se1_ag3_m_011292.3418mess with the1292.9350
881 1293.9284childrens n- near me, like the desk right in front of me. I was always1297.1892 
883 1298.0984doing something, you know.1299.1419 
885 1299.6545make them holler or something.1301.1395 
886DTA_int_051302.9603I suppose nowadays, you really keep your kids at it though huh?1305.2950
887DTA_se1_ag3_m_011305.3011Oh yeah.1305.8686
888DTA_int_051306.0395[<laugh>]1307.0470
889DTA_se1_ag3_m_011306.4516[<laugh>]1306.6468
890DTA_int_051308.6680You encourage them to go [uh /inaudible/?]1310.1297
891DTA_se1_ag3_m_011309.6354[I stay] right with 'em all the time, yeah.1311.3806
892DTA_int_051311.3928Mm.1311.6079
894 1312.6548You got some pretty good students in the family have [you?]1314.2198 
895DTA_se1_ag3_m_011314.1742[Oh] yeah.1314.5892
896 1316.3189Very good.1316.9047
897DTA_int_051318.3382You get a pretty good education down here too at /RD-SCHOOL-6/ [/inaudible/.]1320.8834
898DTA_se1_ag3_m_011320.6515[Oh yeah.]1321.1031
899 1321.3655Real good.1322.0041
900DTA_int_051327.0016You never did have a teacher that you just couldn't stand huh?1328.9945
901DTA_se1_ag3_m_011329.6293No.1330.0382
902DTA_int_051330.4531They- did /they/1331.6003
904 1331.8688in those days, did they have any uh th- uh, thing they used to do special for kids that were really smart in the class?1336.2038 
905DTA_se1_ag3_m_011340.2588Mm. I don't remember, no.1341.7722
906DTA_int_051344.9985Nowadays, they have things like honor rolls [and /that don't they?]1347.6272
907DTA_se1_ag3_m_011346.8461[Yes.]1347.3343
909 1347.6089Mm-hm.1348.1276 
910DTA_int_051348.1520But you can't remember what they had [back then.]1349.6384
911DTA_se1_ag3_m_011349.2357[No.]1349.6323
912 1349.9618I don- when I was growing-1351.1701
914 1351.6033well, schools I was going, they didn't have any honor roll.1353.6809 
916 1355.7573Because if they did, I don't remember now.1357.6978 
917DTA_int_051357.9540Hm.1358.3751
919 1360.5673They have anything they used to do with especially dumb kids?1362.4833 
920DTA_se1_ag3_m_011364.1741Mm. Not too much.1365.1810
921DTA_int_051365.6997That was past the time when you used to stand in the corner [wearing a] dunce [cap? (laughing)]1368.7527
922DTA_se1_ag3_m_011367.6604[<laugh>]1367.9960
924 1368.6063[Well] they had that too, I mean but that's mostly for if you be talking or1371.7184 
925DTA_int_051371.8892[<laugh>]1372.5116
926DTA_se1_ag3_m_011371.9502[chewing gum] in class, you know, to make you stand in the corner, you know.1374.5495
927 1374.8607Stand on one leg or something like that for a while.1377.0980
928DTA_int_051380.5887Yeah?1380.9528
929DTA_se1_ag3_m_011381.1359Or th-1381.5447
931 1382.2587throwing spit balls. You know, those- mos- some kids, well, they'll throw spitballs too in class.1386.5631 
933 1386.9902/Kids/.1387.3624 
935 1387.6928teacher's not looking, they wad up some papers and they wet it, and1390.2069 
936DTA_int_051390.9208[<laugh>]1391.4395
937DTA_se1_ag3_m_011391.1161[maybe] a rubber band, you know. And look all innocent afterwards, you know.1394.1551
938DTA_int_051394.3198[<laugh>]1395.1314
939DTA_se1_ag3_m_011394.8629[Until] you get caught. <laugh>1396.1709
940DTA_int_051401.4041What- uh, what time did you used to go to school in the morning?1403.5642
941DTA_se1_ag3_m_011407.7170I think I w- I think it was ten or nine. We had to be there at nine I think.1410.6582
942DTA_int_051410.6582Mm-hm, and you'd get off at uh.1412.5062
943DTA_se1_ag3_m_011412.6771Three o'clock I think it was.1413.8731
944DTA_int_051414.9500If- if the minute hand is fifteen minutes after the hour, you say it's quarter.1418.9593
945DTA_se1_ag3_m_011419.8142Quarter after.1420.7784
946DTA_int_051420.9258Mm-hm. And if it's fifteen minutes to the hour, you say it's.1424.2434
947DTA_se1_ag3_m_011424.2867It's a quarter to.1425.0495
948DTA_int_051425.0495Mm-hm.1425.5046
950 1425.9770And how about if it's straight up and down?1427.5318 
951DTA_se1_ag3_m_011428.9852Well, I would say-1429.9088
953 1431.0700whatever, it's three thirty or four thirty.1432.7543 
954DTA_int_051434.1151Don't generally say it's half past?1435.4514
955DTA_se1_ag3_m_011435.9091Not too much, no.1437.0667
956DTA_int_051439.0716I don't think you find half past very much in Detroit. We- most people in Detroit use uh1443.0259
958 1444.3991three thirty or [so.]1445.1854 
959DTA_se1_ag3_m_011444.9359[Mm-hm.]1445.3691
960DTA_int_051449.3275Oh. Oh ho ho.1450.9551
962 1453.4728Did- uh,1454.0830 
964 1454.8824when you were a kid, did they used to have gangs like they have nowadays? They have gangs quite often [/inaudible/]1459.6725 
965DTA_se1_ag3_m_011458.3056[Yeah.]1458.6656
967 1459.5321[They] have.1460.0874 
968 1461.1980I n- I never did fool with 'em too much myself.1463.5616
969DTA_int_051463.7213Uh-huh.1464.0935
970DTA_se1_ag3_m_011464.6366I'd never go for gangs.1465.8814
971DTA_int_051468.8466Were you what maybe what they'd call a loner, huh? <laugh>1471.2333
972DTA_se1_ag3_m_011471.3973Yeah, well,1472.0042
974 1472.1816I- I s-1472.8008 
976 1474.3662well, and my father he was pretty strict [anyway, you know.] Yeah.1477.0822 
977DTA_int_051476.2584[Yeah.]1476.6611
978DTA_se1_ag3_m_011478.2050That's one thing he was strictly against,1480.0484
980 1480.3840being with a gang, cause around my neighborhood, it was pretty rough. Use- They used to fight a lot.1484.1597 
982 1484.8493Cause a lot of 'em used to1485.4229 
984 1485.8266pick on me because I wouldn't run with them, see.1488.1881 
985DTA_int_051488.3224Mm.1488.6275
986DTA_se1_ag3_m_011489.0035/They tend to fight a lot that's coming around./1490.6745
987DTA_int_051493.9309You used to have a couple of friends though didn't you?1495.4504
988DTA_se1_ag3_m_011495.5053Oh yeah.1496.0827
989DTA_int_051496.1420Mm-hm.1496.5569
991 1501.3333Did these gra- gangs very often have leaders formally? Sort of have somebody they appointed as a [leader?]1505.3485 
992DTA_se1_ag3_m_011505.1838[I think] so. Most of 'em do.1506.7167
993DTA_int_051506.7472Mm-hm.1507.1133
995 1510.8030Uh-huh.1511.1935 
997 1514.0767What's- uh, in Virginia, was there, uh, much uh, mixing with the- the whites and the1518.3484 
998DTA_se1_ag3_m_011518.3911No. Not- not- Not too much. [No.]1520.0082
999DTA_int_051519.7031[Black] people. [Not so] much [yeah?]1521.3384
1000DTA_se1_ag3_m_011520.4752[Mm.]1520.7742
1002 1521.0732[Not so] much, no.1521.8798 
1003DTA_int_051523.0657Do you find that's a problem here in Detroit too?1524.9757
1004DTA_se1_ag3_m_011525.7446Mm. No, I don't think so.1527.0632
1005DTA_int_051527.7649There are s-1528.1498
1007 1528.4976I noticed in some of these neighborhoods around here, there are some white uh, people aren't there?1531.5427 
1008DTA_se1_ag3_m_011531.5427Oh yeah.1531.9730
1009DTA_int_051533.5616I suppose /RD-SCHOOL-6/ too, what is that about fifty-fifty is it?1536.5163
1010DTA_se1_ag3_m_011538.5605Well.1539.4050
1012 1542.7906Uh, it's- it's more colored children I think than there is white children now.1545.3903 
1013DTA_int_051545.4086Hm.1545.7808
1014DTA_se1_ag3_m_011546.0615I think so.1546.7632
1015DTA_int_051547.0439Mm-hm. There are a considerable amount of whites there [too.]1548.8382
1016DTA_se1_ag3_m_011548.6549[Yeah.]1548.9539
1017 1549.1858It is.1549.6923
1018DTA_int_051551.7973And are most of these kids you think uh1553.8720
1020 1554.2869say, Polish or Spanish or Hungarian or /??/?1557.2462 
1021DTA_se1_ag3_m_011557.4232Mm.1558.1371
1023 1559.1158Well, I haven't paid too much attention.1560.3963 
1024DTA_int_051560.4024Mm-hm.1560.6474
1026 1564.6496You think uh, Catholic schools are better than this- uh, on this point than a lot of the public schools here in Detroit?1569.5801 
1027DTA_se1_ag3_m_011569.6045I d- I- I think they're better, yeah.1571.6615
1028DTA_int_051571.7021Hm.1572.2045
1029DTA_se1_ag3_m_011572.4913More, is it- it's more they are1574.0819
1031 1574.2101more strict, I think t- disciplined more, you know.1576.6455 
1033 1577.9904And it's- the children seem to learn more.1579.8268 
1034DTA_int_051580.1123Yeah.1580.4540
1035DTA_se1_ag3_m_011581.9527Cause one public school, they don't seem, I don't know.1583.7833
1037 1584.4699It might be they had d- the rooms could be over filled. You know they don't have the1588.3512 
1039 1588.4480time to put with the students like they should maybe.1590.7811 
1040DTA_int_051590.7811Hm.1591.1777
1041DTA_se1_ag3_m_011592.1113 I think that's one of the problems I think too.1594.0016
1042DTA_int_051595.4325Course, maybe too, one of the problem here is dedication of teachers. No- in your Catholic schools, your teachers are generally pretty dedicated to their tasks [/inaudible/.]1601.7239
1043DTA_se1_ag3_m_011601.2506[Yes they] are yeah.1602.1171
1044DTA_int_051602.6257Whereas, in the public school, it's just another [job to them.]1604.8148
1045DTA_se1_ag3_m_011604.4451[Just a] job. [Yeah.]1605.2683
1046DTA_int_051605.2012[Mm-hm.]1605.5063
1047DTA_se1_ag3_m_011605.9401Cause I know once we had1606.9281
1049 1607.3186went to school and watched one teacher said1608.9063 
1051 1609.4432the ones that wanna learn she a /better/ teacher, and you know. And the ones that's not, they don't care, they just1613.4509 
1053 1613.7621don't force as much, [you know.]1614.9930 
1054DTA_int_051614.6557[/inaudible/]1615.1029
1055DTA_se1_ag3_m_011615.1883Yeah.1615.5300
1056DTA_int_051619.0720How old's your oldest- oldest kid now? They about to turn-1621.4579
1057DTA_se1_ag3_m_011624.2517Well, ms- my wife has /some/ children from when I married her..1626.4912
1058DTA_int_051626.4912Hm.1626.7658
1059DTA_se1_ag3_m_011626.7658The oldest one's twenty-eight.1627.9680
1060DTA_int_051628.1327Mm.1628.4012
1061DTA_se1_ag3_m_011628.9626My oldest one is thirteen.1630.7810
1062DTA_int_051632.6024Yeah.1632.7976
1064 1633.0417Trying to get him into college, are you?1634.1574 
1065DTA_se1_ag3_m_011635.0030Mm. [No.]1636.1819
1066DTA_int_051635.7755[Is /inaudible/]1636.3833
1067DTA_se1_ag3_m_011636.4260No. She's a girl. She's married, have a family of [her own,] she's been working for- at the post office.1640.1239
1068DTA_int_051638.2001[Uh-huh.]1638.6334
1069DTA_se1_ag3_m_011644.3421And most of the grown ups, they went to high school.1646.6439
1070DTA_int_051646.7232Mm-hm.1647.1737
1071DTA_se1_ag3_m_011649.4151I think only one finished.1651.1603
1073 1652.5858He f- after he finished after he1654.0991 
1075 1654.3262went in the service.1655.2354 
1076DTA_int_051655.3269Mm-hm.1655.6931
1078 1663.1108What do they call this part of town here?1664.5753 
1080 1666.0388Is there a special name for it? Is- is this the West Side?1668.2233 
1081DTA_se1_ag3_m_011668.2233No, this is the East Side.1669.1477
1082DTA_int_051669.2149Oh really.1669.6187
1084 1670.6811Uh-huh.1671.0534 
1086 1672.1151Are there any sort of boundaries for the East Side? How far do you go either way before you're, uh, out of the East Side?1676.4542 
1087DTA_se1_ag3_m_011679.0858Uh. Let's see.1680.0011
1089 1681.5511Well, the East Side starts on this side of Woodward.1683.4250 
1090DTA_int_051683.6995Mm-hm.1684.1084
1091DTA_se1_ag3_m_011684.1694You can go1684.6393
1093 1686.6646oh, I don't know how far.1687.5555 
1095 1687.8484Uh. I guess even1688.9401 
1097 1691.2362I- I don't know whether it extends, whether it- they call it- at Grosse Pointe whether they call it East Side or not.1695.8876 
1098DTA_int_051696.1927Yeah.1696.4246
1100 1697.6633Goes as far as Grosse Pointe, huh?1698.8239 
1101DTA_se1_ag3_m_011699.2440I think so.1700.0678
1102DTA_int_051700.2631Hm.1700.5255
1103DTA_se1_ag3_m_011701.5846I mean that's ks-1702.1216
1105 1702.5549about far as east you can go and that's Grosse Pointe. /Yeah./1704.7700 
1106DTA_int_051705.6293What is some of the main streets in Detroit?1707.3790
1107DTA_se1_ag3_m_011711.7918Well, Woodward.1712.5118
1109 1714.4181Grand River.1715.1565 
1111 1718.1162Uh. Let's see.1719.2878 
1113 1720.4983Well, this Mount Elliott here is.1721.9933 
1114DTA_int_051721.9811Mm-hm.1722.4266
1115DTA_se1_ag3_m_011722.9209Main Street.1723.6775
1117 1725.2092And then1725.7950 
1119 1726.2433Kercheval.1726.8352 
1120DTA_int_051727.1529Mm-hm.1727.5063
1121DTA_se1_ag3_m_011728.9708Charlevoix.1730.0631
1122DTA_int_051730.1068Uh-huh.1730.7048
1123DTA_se1_ag3_m_011730.9428One way going1731.8947
1125 1733.0242west.1733.7015 
1127 1734.8731Vernor.1735.4650 
1128DTA_int_051736.2034Uh-huh.1736.4780
1129DTA_se1_ag3_m_011736.9868Vernor Highway is what they call it. It's going1739.3595
1131 1739.6708east one way.1740.8729 
1132DTA_int_051742.3556What's the one that goes by University of Detroit?1744.3632
1133DTA_se1_ag3_m_011747.8086/Cass/.1748.4677
1134DTA_int_051748.4982It's call- it's called the street of fashion. You know that street?1750.8353
1135DTA_se1_ag3_m_011751.5374Street of fashion.1752.6358
1136DTA_int_051753.2704Starts with Liver.1754.2285
1137DTA_se1_ag3_m_011755.9981Livernois?1756.6580
1138DTA_int_051756.6580Uh-huh.1757.0424
1140 1757.7503How do you pronounce that again?1758.7937 
1141DTA_se1_ag3_m_011759.1904Livernois.1759.9613
1142DTA_int_051760.8598You ever hear two different pronunciations of this in Detroit?1762.8783
1143DTA_se1_ag3_m_011763.0688Well, I haven't paid too much attention.1764.3429
1144DTA_int_051764.4222<laugh>1765.9971
1146 1766.4303Some people say Livernois and some people say Livernois.1769.0191 
1147DTA_se1_ag3_m_011769.0984Mm-hm.1769.5927
1148DTA_int_051769.8720It's i- it's quite odd.1770.8750
1150 1771.5950How do you pronounce the name of the- um, this city?1773.7613 
1151DTA_se1_ag3_m_011774.5332Detroit.1775.0397
1152DTA_int_051775.2655Mm-hm.1775.5775
1154 1775.9308/It's/1776.3640 
1156 1776.5962Sounds good.1777.1022 
1158 1778.5850What are the expressways here in Detroit?1779.9372 
1159DTA_se1_ag3_m_011781.7618Well, we got the John C. Lodge.1783.4833
1161 1785.8423And the Edsel Ford.1786.7935 
1162DTA_int_051792.3855And those are the main ones [yeah?]1793.3801
1163DTA_se1_ag3_m_011793.3618[Mm-hm.]1793.8073
1164 1794.5031I think so. It's- I never paid too much attention. I- I don't travel them too much.1797.9341
1165DTA_int_051799.2464You do enough driving on the job. [And that's the whole] weekend. [<laugh>]1802.5446
1166DTA_se1_ag3_m_011800.7506[Mm-hm.]1801.2570
1168 1801.8612[Really.]1802.4502 
1169DTA_int_051802.9781<laugh>1804.1680
1171 1806.2228You were born in West Virginia huh? or [Virginia?]1808.1831 
1172DTA_se1_ag3_m_011807.9052[No.] I was born in Alabama, [but I was raised] in Virginia mostly. Yeah.1810.8174
1173DTA_int_051809.3219[/Oh yeah/.]1809.6337
1174 1810.8448Alright.1811.1621
1176 1815.2079Uh. Where- I- you've uh. So you were born in Alabama, you lived in Virg- Virginia. You lived in other towns besides Detroit and- in Virginia?1821.4990 
1177DTA_se1_ag3_m_011823.1344No.1824.1046
1179 1824.6240[Well, when I-]1824.9580 
1180DTA_int_051824.6362[/inaudible/]1824.9474
1181DTA_se1_ag3_m_011825.0861When I first came here, we lived out in Ferndale.1827.2784
1182DTA_int_051827.4127Oh yeah?1827.7465
1184 1827.8933[Ferndale, Michigan.]1828.5050 
1185DTA_se1_ag3_m_011827.9741[Yeah.]1828.2991
1186 1828.5538Yeah.1828.8345
1187DTA_int_051833.5682Do you go on trips sometimes?1834.7276
1188DTA_se1_ag3_m_011835.6727Yes. [Sometime.]1836.7817
1189DTA_int_051836.3135[Where do you generally] go?1837.2532
1190DTA_se1_ag3_m_011838.2296Well,1838.6750
1192 1839.4134one summer, we w- we went to Virginia. [Take my] wife and kid.1842.5743 
1193DTA_int_051841.5050[Uh-huh.]1841.7246
1194DTA_se1_ag3_m_011843.2624Last summer, we w- we went to Cleveland.1844.9948
1196 1846.0112Then we left Cleveland, and went to Chicago to visit my aunt.1847.9513 
1197DTA_int_051854.9577What do you celebrate on October thirty-first?1856.8067
1198DTA_se1_ag3_m_011857.9139Halloween.1858.6095
1199DTA_int_051858.7225Mm-hm.1859.1700
1201 1859.3845You used to celebrate this as a kid did [you?]1860.8734 
1202DTA_se1_ag3_m_011860.7209[Oh] yeah. (laughing)1861.3250
1203DTA_int_051862.9876What'd you used to, uh, do on Halloween?1865.0369
1204DTA_se1_ag3_m_011866.9103Well,1867.4656
1206 1867.9904we each wore a costume1869.1251 
1207DTA_int_051871.6196Go around and ring a [doorbell?]1872.6509
1208DTA_se1_ag3_m_011872.3702[R- Ring] the doorbells and put garbage can in people's doors and1875.5851
1209 1875.8230[<laugh>]1879.1994
1210DTA_int_051876.1784[<laugh>]1879.2868
1211DTA_se1_ag3_m_011880.5133Put something up against the door, ring the doorbell, it's open and fall in, you know. (laughing)1883.3011
1212DTA_int_051883.2970[Yeah (laughing)]1883.8279
1213DTA_se1_ag3_m_011883.4987[<laugh>]1884.3893
1214DTA_int_051886.7081Did you used to have any formula you used to say to- say to people when you rang that doorbell?1890.2582
1216 1890.9025Like nowadays, what [do they say when they're-]1892.3204 
1217DTA_se1_ag3_m_011891.7140[Trick or] treat.1892.6416
1218DTA_int_051892.6355Yeah.1893.1419
1219 1893.6789Did you used to say this down in Virginia too?1895.5143
1220DTA_se1_ag3_m_011895.5265No, not- not too much.1896.8812
1222 1898.7772Cause there1899.5704 
1224 1900.1278<ts>1900.2539 
1226 1901.5447um, when I was a kid they used to say1902.7835 
1228 1903.5751had a big truck I think, uh1905.0315 
1230 1905.8919downtown Main Street, used to1907.7680 
1232 1908.6284throw a lot of candy to most all the kids.1910.6787 
1234 1911.8123They wouldn't n- they didn't give too much like they do now. They give t- door to door, and you know, they go ring the doors and say trick or treat, and you give a kid something.1917.8768 
1236 1918.3955They didn't do that so much .1919.4954 
1237DTA_int_051919.7395Yeah.1919.9958
1238DTA_se1_ag3_m_011919.9958Mostly downtown, they had a1921.9118
1239 1923.4252big truck1923.9927
1241 1924.5701over used to come here, throw candy to all the kids standing around1927.1147 
1242DTA_int_051927.3159Yeah.1927.5113
1243DTA_se1_ag3_m_011928.4974Cause they had the street blocked off, you know for traffic.1930.3647
1244DTA_int_051930.6637Yeah.1930.9200
1246 1933.4174What's that vegetable that they make, uh, jack-o-lanterns out of?1936.0536 
1247DTA_se1_ag3_m_011937.2130Pumpkin.1937.7195
1248DTA_int_051937.8476Mm-hm.1938.2137
1250 1938.7080And the lady in black is a1940.0846 
1251DTA_se1_ag3_m_011940.5411Witch.1940.9804
1252DTA_int_051941.0536Mm-hm.1941.4808
1254 1942.0849Can you remember the way you used to celebrate Christmas as a kid?1944.2544 
1255DTA_se1_ag3_m_011949.2929Well, let's see.1950.3303
1256DTA_int_051955.0107You used to have a special meal did you on that day?1956.6075
1257DTA_se1_ag3_m_011956.9797<ts> Oh yeah.1957.5533
1258DTA_int_051958.3161What'd you used to have?1958.9202
1259DTA_se1_ag3_m_011959.2619Used to have- used to have turkey.1960.5434
1260DTA_int_051960.5861Right.1960.9522
1261DTA_se1_ag3_m_011961.5664Sometime1962.2132
1263 1962.4634turkey and ham.1963.4032 
1264DTA_int_051966.2479I have a [friend /?/-]1967.0949
1265DTA_se1_ag3_m_011966.7056[They used] to make1967.4684
1266 1968.4142bake cakes and pies,1969.8970
1268 1971.3372cookies, whatnot.1972.1793 
1269DTA_int_051974.7645I have a friend who came from1976.0777
1271 1976.1874the South, and he said that on Christmas, they used to have gumbo, is that right?1978.9307 
1272DTA_se1_ag3_m_011980.1268I- Well I never run into it myself.1982.0128
1273DTA_int_051982.0739You di- you never did?1982.7329
1274DTA_se1_ag3_m_011982.8061No.1983.1967
1275DTA_int_051985.1554Well that was a special Christmas dish I suppose. [/inaudible/]1987.2935
1276DTA_se1_ag3_m_011987.1531[I] imagine so.1987.9952
1277DTA_int_051989.2706You heard of it though?1989.9113
1278DTA_se1_ag3_m_011990.1005Yeah, I- I've heard of it yeah.1991.3409
1279DTA_int_051991.3593Yeah, well, it wasn't a custom of your family.1993.1821
1280DTA_se1_ag3_m_011993.2248No.1993.6886
1281DTA_int_051996.7230Kids used to fight much, uh, when you were younger?1998.6879
1282DTA_se1_ag3_m_012000.5525Well, quite a bit.2001.4373
1283DTA_int_052004.5439Nothing like the sort of fights you get in the town like Detroit though, huh?2006.8229
1284DTA_se1_ag3_m_012006.8347No.2007.1642
1285DTA_int_052009.5136It's really pretty bad some days [/inaudible/]2011.6005
1286DTA_se1_ag3_m_012010.6730[Around here, yeah.] It's pretty bad.2012.4609
1287 2014.1969Cause then uh, when we was coming up, we didn't use a lot like2016.6927
1289 2017.2868k- s- kids now use knives and gun. We didn't have to do that. /It/ was mostly all2021.1668 
1291 2021.6001fight with your fists, you know.2022.7344 
1292DTA_int_052025.3751You ever get in a fight with a guy that's bigger than you?2027.0714
1293DTA_se1_ag3_m_012027.6145Oh a lot of time.2028.3346
1295 2028.7008<laugh>2028.9937 
1296DTA_int_052029.2952What'd you do to him? (laughing) <laugh>2031.0135
1297DTA_se1_ag3_m_012031.2210I do the best I can. Sometime, when it get to tough, I [run. (laughing)]2034.7861
1298DTA_int_052034.2857[<laugh>]2034.8105
1299DTA_se1_ag3_m_012035.7326I've never had too much trouble, uh,2036.8859
1301 2037.5694fighting one2038.3748 
1303 2039.7145kid when I was coming up. L- Usually2041.2095 
1305 2041.6062they always2042.1371 
1307 2042.6314two or more used to- used to get after me, you know. [I'd fight] ti- you know,2045.7864 
1308DTA_int_052045.0175[Yeah.]2045.2738
1309DTA_se1_ag3_m_012046.8221much as I could, and I'd get too- too rough, and I'd just cut out and [run.]2049.8061
1310DTA_int_052049.6352[<laugh>]2051.4536
1311 2052.0535Was there anything you could say to make the other guy get off you? Would you say uncle or I give or [something like this?]2056.0369
1312DTA_se1_ag3_m_012055.4418[No.]2055.8783
1313DTA_int_052056.9828You just use those two legs and [clear out of there. <laugh>]2061.2274
1314DTA_se1_ag3_m_012058.1422[Mm-hm. Clear on out.]2059.5188
1315DTA_int_052062.0683Uh-huh.2062.4039
1317 2062.9344Yeah.2063.1846 
1319 2064.8204Did you ever get in a situation where you thought, this was it, uh, you might be killed or die?2068.5923 
1320DTA_se1_ag3_m_012069.1723N- no, I don't remember.2070.8260
1321DTA_int_052074.5529Quartermaster in the Army is a little safer /unintelligible/.2076.7741
1322DTA_se1_ag3_m_012076.8168Oh yeah.2077.2195
1323DTA_int_052077.4636<laugh>2078.2691
1324DTA_se1_ag3_m_012079.6954Well, once2080.4215
1326 2081.2148the night we went i- the evening we went on the beach,2083.3078 
1327DTA_int_052083.8424[Yeah.]2084.1353
1328DTA_se1_ag3_m_012083.8973[uh] I had a f- kind of a few doubts. I had a few doubts then, cause they was bombing2087.7416
1329 2089.0114on one end.2089.7838
1331 2091.2247They were shooting, /and they/ keep 'em up a high- at a high alti- altitude, you know, where they couldn't2094.9531 
1333 2095.9406do too much damage to, but it was bombing2097.8736 
1335 2098.0031pretty close to us though.2098.9734 
1336DTA_int_052099.4530Yeah.2099.8008
1338 2104.7932I suppose it effects everybody the same way, you know, in a situation like that.2107.8489 
1339DTA_se1_ag3_m_012107.8882Yeah, no, I think so.2109.1852