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1DTA_int_091.4696What kinds of games did you play around here when you were younger?4.1693
2DTA_se1_ag3_m_024.7402I- now, I was born in Mississippi.6.2257
3DTA_int_096.5690Uh-huh. What kinds of games did you play when you were young?8.8085
4DTA_se1_ag3_m_029.1534When I was young?9.8793
6DTA_se1_ag3_m_0210.1044[Marbles,] Spinning Tops.12.0665
7DTA_int_0912.4171Uh-huh. How do you play that?13.5931
8DTA_se1_ag3_m_0214.0433Well, then I15.5963
10 16.4929wants to try to build a pile of them neat airplanes.19.4130 
12DTA_se1_ag3_m_0220.6059And then, um,21.3656
14 24.1356went swimming.25.0883 
17 27.1676Where'd you go swimming?27.9403 
18DTA_se1_ag3_m_0228.5139Well, that was in a river.29.9891
20 30.1998Wolf River,30.8847 
22 31.0383Mississippi.31.7480 
24DTA_se1_ag3_m_0234.2593And, uh,34.9310
26 36.4808else, I37.1261 
28 37.4422went to- didn't go to school much. Um,39.7823 
30 42.4502moved to Mississippi, and then I was a farmer.44.4568 
32DTA_se1_ag3_m_0244.9977[I farm mostly.]46.0028
33DTA_int_0946.4067Is that right?46.9863
34DTA_se1_ag3_m_0248.1409[I had cotton.]48.9882
35DTA_int_0948.1409[What kind of farming?]48.9557
36DTA_se1_ag3_m_0250.4634broke up ground,51.5653
38 52.1082broke up new ground, cut down trees, haul logs,55.2297 
40DTA_se1_ag3_m_0256.3931cut wood.57.2492
43 59.7396Uh.60.2445 
44DTA_se1_ag3_m_0260.3948[And I-]60.8157
45DTA_int_0960.3948[What kind of] games did you-61.4216
46 61.6631uh, do some of your kids play around here now?64.1288
47DTA_se1_ag3_m_0264.8532Well, this kind of game these kids playing here is- I don't understand it much, they play a different kind of ball,71.0643
49 71.4510batting balls with their hand across a [line], and playing hopscotch.75.0730 
51DTA_se1_ag3_m_0276.6037And then they'll-77.3851
53 77.6881Some of 'em call theirself playing baseball80.0341 
55 80.1975and-80.6356 
56DTA_int_0980.6839How they play hopscotch?82.0141
57DTA_se1_ag3_m_0282.6200Well, they box chalk on there.84.4112
59 84.8564Concrete got /??/ in blocks and with numbers on it and throwing, and hop,88.7703 
61 89.2313hopping on foot up and down.91.0138 
64 93.7054Uh, how about that game where uh,95.2600 
66 95.7913somebody96.7527 
68 97.8415hides and the person, the other people go to try to find them, [what's that called?]101.6156 
69DTA_se1_ag3_m_02101.3279[Well, the children, they play hide and seek out here at night sometime when they be out there.106.2088
72 107.1642How [do they] play that?108.1257 
73DTA_se1_ag3_m_02107.3526[And they.]107.5769
74 108.6833Well, now, I see 'em running across the street, hiding behind cars, and the other of 'em hollering one, two, three, /in and/ out running back to the base to115.6347
76DTA_se1_ag3_m_02116.1588[/unintelligible/] what nobody was calling that.118.0658
79 119.5087Is there any way they find out who's gonna be it? Like uh.122.4590 
80DTA_se1_ag3_m_02122.6346Well, the last man that come in,124.8912
82 125.3434and he didn't out run him,126.7116 
84 127.1419or she didn't out run him, well, he's the man got to do the counting.130.0702 
85DTA_int_09130.7770Uh-huh. How about when they start the game, who's it?133.0541
87 133.1593At the beginning.133.8324 
88DTA_se1_ag3_m_02137.1749[/When I play as much not to-/]138.4744
89DTA_int_09137.7412[Are there any lines] or anything that they say?140.1806
90 140.4045Like we used to say, one potato, two potato, three potato, four, they ever say that? or [anything?]144.5265
91DTA_se1_ag3_m_02144.4841[Well,] I see 'em sitting down on the floor,146.1497
92 146.2814out there in the yard, they's147.4778
94 148.1912counting one another's toes, now what they be doing that for, I don't know.151.7944 
96DTA_se1_ag3_m_02153.9661And they be doing that kind of game, and when they get through, somebody got to do some running, or I don't know what it'll be, what it-160.2096
98 160.4291what they be call theyself doing.162.0009 
100DTA_se1_ag3_m_02162.4970[Yeah, like] I foretold you,163.6463
101 163.6463Y163.7188
102 163.7188since I come to the city, I just come here in Fifty-Four,166.4043
104 166.8170I've only been here167.8454 
106 168.0956here since Fifty-Four. Then,169.6350 
108 170.7018and /as you said/, school up here is a whole lot different than the school I sees was down south.174.7299 
111 176.4289[Uh.]176.8108 
112DTA_se1_ag3_m_02176.4420[Cause] they even have gyms here to play in,179.1948
113 179.3265swimming pool,180.2133
115 180.6216Well, the children down there, they- where I was, they didn't have that.183.4489 
117DTA_se1_ag3_m_02184.5948Said even when they played, they played outdoor, they didn't have no gym to play basketball, that was outdoors.189.6397
120 192.1862Uh, good.193.1301 
122 193.5911Uh-huh. Do you watch a lot of TV?195.0311 
123DTA_se1_ag3_m_02196.0337Well, I used to watch TV, but since I198.3079
125 198.6986call myself as199.7172 
127 200.1562practicing going on, fixing cars,202.4644 
129 202.6740/unintelligible/ and thing like that.204.6134 
131 204.9866I don't pay much attention to TV. That's where I was downtown, a friend house a while ago.208.6294 
132DTA_int_09208.7304Uh-huh. [Do you] have any uh, programs that you especially like?211.7037
133DTA_se1_ag3_m_02209.2484[We'll do.]209.5887
134 212.2334Oh, well, I'm kind of like kids, I almost look at214.8061
136 214.9993cartoons and things like that when it's on.217.5632 
138 218.3036Or look at some of the western features, something like that.220.9619 
139DTA_int_09221.0234Uh-huh. Any particular westerns that you like? Any programs like [Gunsmoke] or anything?225.2249
141 226.1525Well Gunsmoke and, uh, the picture come on at six o-clock, I mostly look at them.230.3243
143 230.5395and, uh,231.0970 
145 232.3351The Bewitched, whenever it is.233.8772 
148 235.0186Could you tell me one time when you saw Bewitched when it was real good? What happened?238.5671 
149DTA_se1_ag3_m_02238.7383Well, no, not exactly, cause240.9916
151 241.5535I don't keep that on my mind all the time, when I see it, I'm just through with it just then when it's gone.245.8192 
153DTA_se1_ag3_m_02249.0395[It goes from-]249.5795
155 250.1063Uh. How about The Fugitive or any of those programs? Is that something you watch?254.0114
156DTA_se1_ag3_m_02254.5075Any what?254.9553
157DTA_int_09255.1617The Fugitive or any of those?256.7537
158DTA_se1_ag3_m_02258.1191No, well, just like I foretell you, I don't know very much about261.5127
160 262.0089that kind of262.8430 
162 263.3112junk cause I don't pay no attention and then never read, I can't read.266.5952 
164 266.8454If I could read, I could understand a whole lot, you [see.]269.2217 
166DTA_se1_ag3_m_02270.1875But, uh, I can't read, I can't even figure things out to understand /nothing on-/274.0998
168 274.4071see nothing on my own by eyesight and hear.276.5468 
170 277.3546[See.]277.8463 
172DTA_se1_ag3_m_02278.7755That's they only way I learn most everything I do.281.1024
174 281.6556I watch a person, what they doing and283.6268 
176 284.8698from that day /is that/, and I can tell them the same thing or I can do the same thing he do.288.7842 
178 289.4296But just getting down to reading,291.1199 
180 291.9260like the children do these days, they can read and do things. Well, I can't do it. I can't read cause I never had to do it, I do- /it/ just like fixing cars, and298.8846 
182 299.0778peoples ask me, how did you fix car?301.0150 
184 301.7037Nobody fix cars and you don't know how to read the directions. Then I say well,305.5671 
186 306.3310when I'd /?/ out here, I watch the main worksman I was in the garage what he's doing.310.8299 
188 311.0714What I see,311.6509 
190DTA_se1_ag3_m_02312.1859[The] same thing he do is come in contact with anything else.315.1362
191 316.3424And I say, but the quickest way,318.0722
193 319.1961is to fix it with the direction go to book and read it, then you know where to go, but I'll fix it from the straight way the way I know it.325.3908 
195DTA_se1_ag3_m_02326.8456And it act just as good as the way the person if you go to the book and read it.331.0965
196DTA_int_09332.7066Yeah, that's true.333.5495
198 334.5505Uh, do you have any pets around the house?336.1442 
199DTA_se1_ag3_m_02336.3666Well, we is not allowed to keep pets here in the projects here. Well I asked and all, I did have some, but we had to get rid of 'em.341.8632
201 342.8241[And i-]343.2939 
202DTA_int_09342.8241[Uh.] What kind of pets did you have?344.5643
203DTA_se1_ag3_m_02344.5643I had t- one dog and one cat. You know, I had a cat here, one, I had to get rid of him, I had a348.8492
204 349.3672a dog here and I had to get rid of it.350.9653
206DTA_se1_ag3_m_02351.7775[So] they don't allow352.8926
207 353.3876us to have pets here in the project.354.8496
208DTA_int_09354.9944Uh-huh. Who's they? You mean the356.4871
209DTA_se1_ag3_m_02357.0002What [you say?]357.4129
210DTA_int_09357.2198[people] that rent them [out?]358.6100
211DTA_se1_ag3_m_02358.3700[Oh] no, the house commission where we pay rent.360.3083
213DTA_se1_ag3_m_02361.5551Say they don't allow no pets, and then they say363.6504
215 364.1728no pets allowed in the projects.366.1704 
217DTA_se1_ag3_m_02367.7432I guess it's368.4325
219 368.5510about people who raise dogs up or something, not afraid to bite each other's kid and it's caused a lot of trouble.373.0862 
221DTA_se1_ag3_m_02374.3620And so I guess that's the reason they don't376.2411
223 377.6065want no pets around or allow them around, I reckon.380.0149 
226 380.8717How about down in Mississippi? How many [pets did you have?]383.0668 
227DTA_se1_ag3_m_02382.6498[Oh, well] yeah, we raised384.6386
228 384.9722dog down there, hunting dogs, running rabbits,387.3019
230 387.5522coon, things at night like that.389.3873 
232DTA_se1_ag3_m_02391.1083And actually it wasn't no problem down there cause see we had open fields.394.8561
235 397.1435Then you.397.7083 
236DTA_se1_ag3_m_02398.1978Uh, we'd-398.5490
238 399.0100mm, we'd do /like a warning/ down there,401.1525 
240 401.7879about pets and things like that, so people like to hunt.404.4440 
242DTA_se1_ag3_m_02405.3298Go through the woods hunting [at night.]407.0112
243DTA_int_09406.6600[Did you go] hunting with the dogs?407.9376
244DTA_se1_ag3_m_02408.4381Well, sometime we run. Yeah, I like to hunt [with rabbits.]411.1287
245DTA_int_09410.5887[Tell me about that.]411.5800
246DTA_se1_ag3_m_02412.2088Oh, well, we'd goes hunting. Hunting rabbits to bring in414.8078
248 415.4707eight, nine, ten rabbits a day.417.0918 
250 418.2509Going out hunting.419.0669 
252 419.9817Cause I tried to shoot shotgun, it's too much for me,422.4111 
254 422.5353everybody keep me down I guess cause I was so small.425.0640 
256 425.4986[I shoot] a rifle and I shoot a rifle good than I can a shotgun.428.3084 
258 429.3577[Is there.]429.8538
259DTA_se1_ag3_m_02429.5816[I carry] a twenty-two rifle all the time.431.2998
260DTA_int_09431.6378Is that what you have now?432.5247
261DTA_se1_ag3_m_02432.6476I don't have no kind of gun here, I ain't bring that into the city cause I ain't know you allowed to have one or no.437.0752
263 437.6854Cause I never438.3484 
265 438.7698stayed in a city before. The first time I stayed in the city. Course, I was born and raised in Memphis.442.5643 
267 443.2245But, I wasn't /nothing/ large enough, my mother died when I was six years old.446.6038 
268DTA_int_09446.9243Is that right? What did you do then?448.1756
269DTA_se1_ag3_m_02448.8561Well, I was orphan kid, I was put in an orphan home.451.1171
271DTA_se1_ag3_m_02452.3975And see they raised me up until I got about sixteen, seventeen years old, and I've been hitting it for myself ever since.457.2800
273 457.9825And see, I'm forty-eight years old, this last past thirteenth of July, I was forty-eight years old.462.3189 
275DTA_se1_ag3_m_02463.9258And see, else I'm married, got six kids, and a wife.466.8069
277 466.9518And467.3996 
279 467.6114she died468.2787 
281 468.4939about eight months ago.469.4081 
282DTA_int_09469.4081Your wife died about eight [months ago?]470.7885
283DTA_se1_ag3_m_02470.5294[Eight] months ago. Thirtieth of November.472.4436
285DTA_se1_ag3_m_02473.3173It's just about eight months [by now.]475.0871
286DTA_int_09474.5822[Who takes] care of your kids now?476.1408
287DTA_se1_ag3_m_02476.7012Nobody but me.477.3817
288DTA_int_09477.7900Is that right?478.3300
289DTA_se1_ag3_m_02478.3300You see, I'm on ADC.479.6954
291DTA_se1_ag3_m_02480.3671[And] they help me.481.1113
292DTA_int_09483.1666What's [ADC?]483.6945
293DTA_se1_ag3_m_02483.4212[I just] works here for the city. But when I first got out, I quit work, uh, least I didn't quit work, I got out of work in Fifty-Seven.489.3157
294 489.4677And got on the Welfare in Fifty-Seven.491.2589
296 491.9323[They] tryna- and I've been on that, and I just work with the city.494.3464 
298 495.7425Yeah.496.1332
299DTA_se1_ag3_m_02496.5766Park Recreation.497.5337
301 499.4555And so then well- that's when my wife got in bad health.501.8702 
303DTA_se1_ag3_m_02502.8126They had to stop me, and I stayed here with the children to send them to school.506.3468
305DTA_se1_ag3_m_02507.3258Until she passed, after she passed, they just509.2142
307 509.7015put me on ADC then.511.0076 
309 511.6661And so, that's where I513.0754 
311 513.3476make my living now.514.2322 
313DTA_se1_ag3_m_02514.8381I'm back515.3166
314 515.5976then515.9312
316 516.1376taking care of the kids and staying with them.517.8662 
317DTA_int_09520.5399Yeah, how old is your oldest child?522.1484
319 523.3425Yeah, one twelve, one eleven,525.0855
321 525.7232nine,526.3773 
323 527.3530eight,527.6604 
325 528.3086seven and529.2403 
327 531.1714f- one is four.532.1238 
330 534.1213Uh, is there any way you can get a wish? Say by eating chicken or something?537.5618 
332DTA_int_09538.4750Yeah, with a bone in there or something. You break it apart.541.4889
333DTA_se1_ag3_m_02541.5108Well, now.542.5118
335 544.6806/How we had to say that they tell me it's a- where's/ the breast bone.547.8401 
337 548.3282I think it's the breast bone of the chicken, yeah, is it the wishbone?550.7816 
338DTA_int_09551.1884Uh-huh and how's that work?552.4396
339DTA_se1_ag3_m_02553.2430Mm. Well, now, I don't how they work that, they say you take it and557.0143
341 557.7416throw it over your left shoulder and walk559.3967 
343 559.7172ten feet or560.6435 
345 560.8104to561.0211 
347 561.3679ten, five feet or ten feet and wish for what you want.563.9725 
349 564.5959That's the way we all heard it down south when I was in the country.566.9651 
351DTA_se1_ag3_m_02567.8400But see, but the peoples in the city, they don't570.5739
352 570.8637throw it that way. They goes to wishing for it now they tells me.573.4173
354DTA_se1_ag3_m_02574.6202And see, they go to wishing pond and576.4861
356 577.1813throw their penny or quarter or whatever it is over the wishing pond and turn around and580.7607 
358 580.9056wish for what they want.581.8100 
360 582.8267Well, it ain't for one thing, I always wished for my life since I've been in Michigan.586.2612 
362 586.6475And have a driver license.587.8450 
363DTA_int_09588.2357Is that right?588.7625
364DTA_se1_ag3_m_02589.4562I done tried hard all I knowed how.592.2204
366 593.4936I done paid out money,594.8195 
368 596.2622I done went places597.5617 
370 598.0490now, I'm going to school.599.6120 
372 600.0448Trying to get 'em now.601.1158 
374 602.1769But, they tell me that603.4677 
376 603.7574it would cost me a hundred and ninety dollar.606.0711 
378 606.2950Hundred ninety-five dollar607.4980 
379DTA_int_09608.0496[How come?]608.5940
380DTA_se1_ag3_m_02608.3525[to get ] the license.609.2877
381DTA_int_09610.5565How come so much?611.3774
382DTA_se1_ag3_m_02611.3555But, course, I can't read.612.9140
383 613.4877Now, I know there's a law of Michigan615.1911
385 615.7750I can read signs and things, but when it come down to paper like you got there,619.3794 
387DTA_se1_ag3_m_02619.7965I can not read that.620.7213
389 621.0945I can spell the words to you, but I can't pronounce 'em.623.2896 
391DTA_se1_ag3_m_02624.3170See, that's my hard /proposition/625.7394
392 627.4633[I] can spell anything you put before me, I can write just as good as you can.630.9140
394DTA_se1_ag3_m_02632.7916If I look at the paper and them letters on that and read on that paper, I'd write that whole piece of paper you got there, just like [you got it.]638.2794
396DTA_se1_ag3_m_02638.8179But now, me coming down and reading it to you, I couldn't read.641.3379
398 641.5838Cause I can't pronounce the642.9755 
400 644.2208the words as I write 'em.645.9115 
402DTA_se1_ag3_m_02647.1316As I spell 'em, I can't pronounce it.648.8219
404 649.5155/Nunciation/ is my problem, and I /nounce/ it. I can spell anything you put before me.653.4389 
406 654.3126But I can't pronounce it.655.2345 
409 657.6364Alright, good. How about when one of your kid's tooths come out.660.3413 
411 660.8418What do you do then?661.5936 
413 662.0715When one of your kid's lose a tooth, what do you do?664.1513 
416 666.2930he lose a tooth, he pull it out and throw it out, or <laugh> no.670.1857 
417DTA_int_09670.5808You ever put it under a- under pillow?672.7584
421 675.5447Oh.675.9223 
423 676.4583Okay.677.0374 
424DTA_se1_ag3_m_02677.0813Just like I- when I was operated on in679.2326
426 680.2408sixty-one, I think it was, a gall stone, kidney stone.682.9760 
428 683.7645Well that doctor give me, cause he say he'd give me that for a-686.7150 
430 687.0047say, what'd he call it?687.9355 
432 688.4228It's a688.8267 
434 689.9466talking about, big as a marble.691.5311 
436 692.3326[He] put it in the jar.693.3336 
438DTA_se1_ag3_m_02693.9263And hand it to me. He told me, I forget what he told me. Either he say, he give me- give me that- told me to keep it. I kept it there on the TV for long til the children throw it away, I been had that for about three or four years.702.7317
440 703.7195And I'd see them throw the jar and everything away since their mother passed.706.9273 
441DTA_int_09708.0951Uh-huh. Good.709.2146
443 709.4034Uh.709.9390 
445 710.1585Did you go to school at all?711.2765 
446DTA_se1_ag3_m_02712.3258Go to school, I went to school, I went- got far as the third grade and now716.4922
448 717.2780I just tell you the fact that's true.718.7824 
450 719.2697If I'da went on to school,721.2673 
452 722.1990Instead of being like boys would be, running around with other class of boys,726.1964 
454 726.3310them wouldn't go to school you see.728.0047 
456DTA_se1_ag3_m_02728.6281Maybe I woulda learned more than I did.730.5978
457 731.5549But,731.9369
459 732.6349I was going to- uh, school there in Memphis,735.2735 
461 735.9622they call Booker T. Washington.737.1417 
463 737.7519That's where I was going to school at.738.9680 
465 740.2544I was is third grade741.5451 
467 741.8832when we and other boys went down on the river,744.6029 
469 745.3449and we went down that river, a truant officer caught us.747.7025 
471DTA_se1_ag3_m_02748.6814Well, I did /kill the/ /unintelligible/750.3231
473 750.8707put me in the751.8673 
475 752.0868farm school.752.9429 
477 755.0415When they had my trial, they said I was too little to be there and too little to send anywhere else, so they put me in the orphan home.760.3215 
479DTA_se1_ag3_m_02760.9361[Well,] I was small761.9371
480 763.2280so, I stayed in the orphan home til I got twelve years old.765.8709
482 766.7193After I got twelve, some peoples in Arkansas769.3360 
484 770.1981had a farm that they [owned]771.7083 
486DTA_se1_ag3_m_02772.1781and they took me773.1966
488 774.1658and some more boy, another two boys out there on the farm.777.0063 
490 777.9622So, I farmed out there with them til I got about sixteen, seventeen years old, and then I782.1725 
492 782.5153started a program /???/ by myself.784.7105 
494 786.1033So, I don't have no mother and father at all, I have a father too /living in Mem-/, but I ain't sees him since nineteen twenty-eight and that's been a long time ago and [I don't know is he still] living or no.794.4525 
495DTA_int_09793.0573[Is that right?]793.6061
496 795.0671Huh.795.4973
497DTA_se1_ag3_m_02796.4407He says, oh.797.3007
498DTA_int_09797.9575How about uh,798.8707
500 799.1736when you were in school, can you tell me what the teacher wrote on in front of the room?802.4230 
502 803.1869That big black thing?804.2829 
503DTA_se1_ag3_m_02804.8449Oh, well the blackboard, I- yeah. I remember the blackboard alright, but not what she wrote when I was going to school. It's been a long time cause these books I see are different. They're not, they don't have these /baby rays and/814.5254
505 814.9381the ducks and things in the books like here like the children did then and when they read. Our books was all different.819.9200 
506DTA_int_09820.2317Yeah. That's [true.]821.0839
507DTA_se1_ag3_m_02820.7942[It's a] lot of change in 'em.822.3000
508 822.9702Ask me and I tell my children, they always talking about they be great at school, I say, y'all better go on and learn cause828.0674
510 828.4497your daddy /get their/ chance to learn something, I want y'all to try to learn something.831.4484 
512DTA_se1_ag3_m_02832.5679I say, maybe y'all might can make your living better than I did.835.4684
514 836.6450I think you learn, get your s-838.1684 
516 838.6645I don't wanna say I could be able to college you, but you go on and finish the school, this part.842.9713 
518 843.5157You may be learn enough to get you a job845.6510 
520 846.2305to help your ownself, and then you might can college your ownself, goin- end up [going] to college.850.2301 
522DTA_se1_ag3_m_02851.4281But, you take these kids these days, these, some of 'em will go to school and some don't wanna go.855.6334
524DTA_se1_ag3_m_02857.5953[I wished] I had the chance to go.859.1494
526DTA_se1_ag3_m_02859.8651And I could go now, they tell me, but862.0026
528 863.0234I just said to myself, I said, as old as I is now, I don't see a way in the world that I could learn anymore. <laugh>868.9086 
529DTA_int_09869.1928Oh, I bet you could.870.2888
530DTA_se1_ag3_m_02870.6416I might could.871.5285
532 872.0290But, it's just /call/ depending873.7192 
534 875.1880what you wanna do.875.9738 
536DTA_se1_ag3_m_02876.6455That's in your mind.877.5895
537 877.9231If you put your mind on something you wanna do,879.9865
539 880.2851you'll do that.880.8075 
541 882.0968If you ain't got your mind on it,883.2821 
543 883.8090you ain't make no good at it.885.1436 
544DTA_int_09887.2933How about uh, what did you sit in?889.0275
546 890.5465In the class room.891.2314 
547DTA_se1_ag3_m_02891.2358Well, we had benches.892.2368
549 892.5266Never did.892.9831 
550DTA_int_09893.3479What do kids sit in now?894.6079
551DTA_se1_ag3_m_02895.1874And so,895.6732
553 895.7874um, well, down in um,897.2669 
555 898.4172in these here church schools, uh well, I see /?/ getting out of school. I went in Memphis,903.0423 
557DTA_se1_ag3_m_02903.7755[Here,] they would have desks just like, I see,905.9723
558 906.0689you know, childrens have here.907.1852
560DTA_se1_ag3_m_02908.9369But, out there in the country where I stayed in Mississippi,911.6512
562 912.2687we- they sat on benches.913.5770 
564 914.0380See, I never [did go to] school down in Mississippi915.6317 
566 915.9100[Yeah.]916.2085
567DTA_se1_ag3_m_02916.0856[at alls.] Cause, I was too large, more as than I thought I was, I [wasn't too large.]919.8754
568DTA_int_09919.1330[Well, I guess.]919.6609
569 920.1915[I gue-]920.4725
570DTA_se1_ag3_m_02920.3891[But] I /unintelligible/ went to farming.921.9816
571DTA_int_09924.1828That was a little tough to925.1399
573 926.6084/?/ care so much about the education now.929.1921 
574DTA_se1_ag3_m_02929.4819Well, I reckon they did.931.2753
576 932.1665They about care too then they wouldn't catch up with the boys playing hookie, when going to swimming thing, /??/, you know, staying out of school.938.9028 
578 939.6140If I'd'a went on to school, put my mind in school and went on in school, maybe I woulda944.0641 
580 945.1880learnt myself something more than I is now.947.3568 
582DTA_se1_ag3_m_02948.5334Let's see, /after/ I just didn't go back to school no more, went on calling myself farming,953.0477
584 953.8758well, the thing about school, I didn't learn no more.955.8404 
586DTA_se1_ag3_m_02956.4858[No] more about reading, most I learned is about farming, fixing tractors, and960.4129
587 960.7685cutting hay,961.6187
589 962.1192milk cows, and feeding hog, killing hog, and all this and /?/ [that] you see.966.1937 
591DTA_se1_ag3_m_02967.2646Well, see, that's because I went through learning, but on, on mostly all I know.971.1529
593DTA_se1_ag3_m_02972.6430Well, see, I never thought I was gonna live in no city, and so I come to this after I married976.8104
595 977.8948in fifty-two,978.6807 
597 979.6026with the girl I have now, that I did have.981.9324 
599 982.9904Well, she stayed down there and farmed with me two year and she told me come on, let's go to Michigan.986.8730 
601 987.6733I told her, I ain't never lived in no city, she say, you can do better than you is here.991.2426 
603 991.5792And I said, well,992.4880 
605 994.2441if you think we can make it better there, I'll go.996.2474 
607 996.3290And so, I come one up here with her.997.9297 
609 999.6632[/unintelligible/]1000.5316 
611DTA_se1_ag3_m_021000.7511She was already staying up here cause she had people staying up here. She [had mother] and father, and sister and brother, and all, they was already staying.1006.3575
612DTA_int_091003.3590[Oh yeah.]1003.8463
613DTA_se1_ag3_m_021006.7395She was down there on a vacation.1008.1736
615DTA_se1_ag3_m_021009.4468And so I- I was down there, and she seen me and she said, I went round about two weeks when we had married down there.1015.1821
616DTA_int_091015.3665Is that right?1016.0338
618 1018.0493That's pretty good.1018.9625 
620 1019.4366Uh. If you walk outside the classroom, where would you be?1022.0825 
621DTA_se1_ag3_m_021024.3166When you come out1025.1244
623 1025.3395down there?1025.8516 
624DTA_int_091025.8516Yeah, well yeah. If you walk outside the classroom,1028.2268
626 1028.7405where would you be? In the what?1030.1278 
627DTA_se1_ag3_m_021031.6732Well, you'll be in the1033.2092
629 1034.0389hallway, I would [call it.]1035.4351 
630DTA_int_091034.9170[Yeah. Right.] Good. Yeah that's right. That's what I call it too. And what [/inaudible/]1038.5362
631DTA_se1_ag3_m_021037.8173[There in the hallway,] well,1039.2518
632 1040.4460now, when I was going to school, they had a hall, went hallway and lockers, for the, you know, put your clothes and chaps and thing like that in.1047.2318
634 1048.5445And then outdoor,1049.8864 
636 1050.2464we had ground to play on.1051.7017 
638 1053.0020But,1053.3855 
640 1053.8509didn't- in this gym business, I ain't never did know nothing much about it.1057.4278 
642 1057.7088[Until I] come here.1058.7087 
644DTA_se1_ag3_m_021060.4807That's the first time I ever see it. And just like1062.4431
646 1063.4441a social security card.1064.5812 
648 1065.0861I ain't never had nary one of them til I come here to Michigan, the whole time I was in the South.1068.9261 
649DTA_int_091069.0446Is that right?1069.7295
650DTA_se1_ag3_m_021070.1949They said I couldn't get /one of them/.1071.3057
652 1072.4499I didn't know why, cause I didn't know. I didn't know how to go1075.0779 
654 1075.2069told get nary one, cause the man I stayed with1077.4417 
656 1077.9685on the farm, we farming. He always think, oh you don't need this, you don't need that,1081.9938 
658 1082.4592long as you got the truck. That- I drove transport truck1084.9869 
659DTA_int_091085.4698You drove [a truck?]1086.1810
660DTA_se1_ag3_m_021085.6893[trailer trucks,] all kind of truck, hauling stuff.1088.3498
661 1089.2615But they had the license on the steering wheel.1091.2339
663 1091.3414He said, if the man stop me, call him.1093.3206 
665DTA_se1_ag3_m_021094.3367Well, see, he told me I never did need no license, so I s- I just had that in my mind, I didn't try to get none.1099.7954
667 1100.9500Well, I didn't figure, no, come to stay in no city no way, I farmed most of my life, I figured I'd be right there until everything come up until I went to Army in fif-1108.9266 
669 1109.3065fifty-two.1109.7868 
671 1110.6874Yeah. No. Forty-two. I went to the army in forty-two.1113.4011 
673DTA_se1_ag3_m_021115.0109And, I just1115.8055
675 1116.2797I didn't stay there very long. I stayed there about five or six months.1119.5592 
678 1121.1162[How about] outside this school here, what do they have?1123.9392 
680DTA_int_091124.9446Where [the kids can play.]1126.0242
681DTA_se1_ag3_m_021125.1553[Well, I see they] have1126.6568
682 1127.8362mostly a lot of things out the school here, they play a lot, they might have just as much as the gym outside as they do [on the inside.]1134.3806
683DTA_int_091133.6255[Yeah, well, what- what's] that called [outside?]1135.4562
684DTA_se1_ag3_m_021135.3333[Well,] they call that a playground.1136.6322
685DTA_int_091136.7668Yeah. What are some of the things they find in the playground?1139.1990
687 1140.4926What are some of the things that you might find in a playground?1143.0960 
690DTA_se1_ag3_m_021144.9531Um. I don't know about find, but.1148.1876
691DTA_int_091149.2954I mean, what are some of the things that they play on?1151.1290
692DTA_se1_ag3_m_021152.3759Well, I see they have these here.1154.2549
694 1154.4349I don't know what them thing they got, jumping up and down there, big balls.1157.9093 
696DTA_se1_ag3_m_021158.7522[And they] haves uh,1159.8371
697 1160.3815jumping racks.1161.3079
699 1161.6152Racks you jump over like race racks here, running racks [you jump.]1164.5665 
700DTA_int_091164.3163[How about] those bars you can climb all over?1166.3358
701DTA_se1_ag3_m_021166.7705The monkey bars?1167.7023
702DTA_int_091168.4881Yeah, what are they?1169.2872
703DTA_se1_ag3_m_021173.4590Well, I don't know if that's what you call 'em. I help build 'em since I work with the, you know, city.1178.6110
705 1179.1257I help put them down cause uh,1181.0531 
707 1181.5636I work park recreation, now, just like all your Brewster /son/.1184.5762 
709 1185.4104But he made all kind of trains and1187.5594 
712 1189.8819sand pits.1190.7819
714DTA_se1_ag3_m_021192.4836We put out swings for 'em.1193.9983
716 1195.6578And then make a1197.0133 
718 1197.3295turtle backs.1198.1681 
720 1198.5588Shells at least.1199.5598 
722DTA_se1_ag3_m_021200.5037[We] put that out in the park ground.1202.0344
723 1203.4568So, I learned a lot a since I've been here in Michigan, you know, by working, going around with the city,1207.8895
725 1207.9970with park recreation.1208.9227 
727DTA_se1_ag3_m_021209.7393I learned most of that since I've been here.1211.8862
728DTA_int_091212.6354Do you like that job?1213.5530
729DTA_se1_ag3_m_021214.0052Well, I liked pretty well, that's the las-1215.8754
731 1216.2535last job I done since I've been here.1218.0316 
733DTA_se1_ag3_m_021220.1215Let's see, little job I had, I can just work at the laundry, but it didn't last over two years, before they had tore it down. And the building the Chrysler expressway on it.1227.1448
734DTA_int_091228.1738Uh-huh. And you worked on that?1229.4119
735DTA_se1_ag3_m_021230.1871No, I didn't work on the Expressway. I worked at the laundry.1232.6637
737 1232.8788They said that the- that the building was on a place where they was gonna tear down.1236.2857 
738DTA_int_091236.2155[Oh.] I see. Yeah.1237.1638
739 1237.9848Uh.1238.4721
741 1239.7789What's do the kids do after school's out?1241.5042 
743 1242.9267Your kids.1243.5326 
744DTA_se1_ag3_m_021244.0069Well, just the first year, they got here, going to school out there, going to Catholic School and down to YMCA downtown here.1250.7490
746 1251.7500The lady come here and asked me, did uh, did yo- you want them in a program?1255.4142 
748 1256.6029I told 'em, yeah, any kind of program doing to keep 'em out of there /man/, I rather seen 'em go and tryna learn something to be running around this house be fighting all the time or be into something.1264.7210 
750DTA_se1_ag3_m_021265.3576Well, that be better on them, going swimming, learning how to make things,1269.3901
752 1269.6096dresses,1270.1221 
754 1270.7192the girls.1271.5007 
756 1272.6992And I said, the boys, they get up some /side/, I reckon they gonna have something to learn, but the girl, I wanted her to1277.5455 
758 1278.1915go around and learn about the city anyway. I'm glad the lady did come, you know,1282.0506 
760DTA_se1_ag3_m_021283.2695and asked me ge- did she- if they wanted to join the program. I told her, I'll be glad for 'em to go, they didn't wanna go, but I told 'em they're going anyhow.1289.3764
761DTA_int_091289.7716Uh-huh. What [program did /inaudible/]1291.3624
762DTA_se1_ag3_m_021290.6584[But after,] they1291.8278
763 1292.1790learned- after they went and joined the program, learned how to1294.9625
765 1295.1557you know,1295.6386 
767 1296.2060go- it's some kind of Catholic school down here.1298.3836 
769 1299.0377Let's see here, just- I reckon you might know the lady cause, uh,1302.5582 
771DTA_se1_ag3_m_021303.7024it's downtown here where this place is. And I got her name in my pocket book here, she told me any time-1309.2528
773 1309.7489any time that they uh1311.0116 
775 1313.4263want something done or want something for the children, told me to call 'em.1316.2213 
776DTA_int_091316.6253Oh, that's nice.1317.3500
777DTA_se1_ag3_m_021318.1180And so that's-1318.9872
779 1320.1115See, this is her name here.1321.6195 
782 1323.9639That's where /RD-NAME-4/.1325.5181 
783DTA_se1_ag3_m_021325.6487That's down- that's- see she works downtown [there somewhere.]1328.8229
784DTA_int_091327.9009[Huh. Very good.]1328.8229
785DTA_se1_ag3_m_021329.6043And I say, oh that's why they go to s-1331.1689
787 1331.4482school every morning. In the evening, they go to the YMCA or whatever it is.1335.1728 
789DTA_se1_ag3_m_021335.5504[So, that's] swimming lessons and they're taking, I told 'em thats's good.1338.7278
790 1339.0922You can't never tell when you allowed to jump in a flood and have to swim.1341.9502
792 1342.2649Told her that's something I didn't hardly learn good.1344.4104 
794DTA_se1_ag3_m_021346.3500I say, all of the enjoyment to you.1348.4173
796 1349.0978I said, ask me when you have these schools and things built more organized more people and more kids, here1354.0983 
798 1354.5335round here and they having more school built so the kids can have a chance to learn something [bef-]1358.6927 
800DTA_se1_ag3_m_021359.4105While before they get grown.1360.7715
802 1361.0393And then they get up something /?/ grown, they know how to take care of they own self.1364.0287 
804DTA_se1_ag3_m_021364.6146[I] said they won't be like1365.8395
805 1366.0985the peoples come back before town. They didn't have that chance to learn nothing.1370.0130
806DTA_int_091370.4415Yeah. That's true.1371.3196
808 1371.9167Uh. How about the- when you were in school, did you ever have a teacher hollered a lot?1375.5194 
809DTA_se1_ag3_m_021376.2032Oh, well, I wouldn't say I was the goodest one in te- in school, but I was-1380.7105
811 1381.3427I had my potion, a part of badness in me though.1384.0495 
812DTA_int_091384.1872Yeah, what [/inaudible/]1384.9905
813DTA_se1_ag3_m_021384.6175[If I] was always doing them, man if I didn't have a piece of rubber shooting somebody in the back of the head with it, I was painting 'em or sticking 'em.1390.6881
814 1391.3642And so.1392.0798
816 1392.7735I won't say I was the goodest in school.1394.7228 
818DTA_se1_ag3_m_021395.5041I had my potion of badness in there alright.1397.7343
819DTA_int_091398.7441Yeah, we all do.1399.5607
823 1401.3636Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had?1403.5236 
824DTA_se1_ag3_m_021407.7472Well, I couldn't remember them teachers's name now, it's been so long.1410.7529
826 1411.5080[I couldn't remember] that now, and I- ooh, good gracious /?/.1414.5621 
828DTA_se1_ag3_m_021416.8577Yeah, when I was in Memphis, going to school that was in nineteen and1420.0958
830 1420.6158twenty-six.1421.4357 
832DTA_se1_ag3_m_021422.9236[That's] pretty good far back, that's a long time for me to remember back [about everything.]1426.9743
833DTA_int_091426.2411[Oh, yeah.]1426.8557
834DTA_se1_ag3_m_021427.5362Cause I wasn't over1428.5284
836 1428.6953five or six years old then myself.1430.8582 
837DTA_int_091433.5406Did you ever have teachers you couldn't stand?1435.2698
840 1436.3674What'd you say?1436.8635 
841DTA_int_091436.9425Ye- did you ever have [teachers you couldn't stand?]1438.9869
842DTA_se1_ag3_m_021437.9332[Oh, well], no, but I said1440.9230
843 1441.7264they made me stand one foot too much in the corner, well, if I wasn't standing on one foot, they had my head down in the corner1447.2801
845 1447.7938cause I done a lot of /dumb there/.1449.2777 
847DTA_se1_ag3_m_021450.8280I wasn't doing things right in school. And I know I was asking for- getting my punishment for it.1455.3060
850 1457.1572How did they punish the kids down there?1458.8080 
851DTA_se1_ag3_m_021459.5631Oh, well, some of 'em they whoop 'em, then some of 'em, they make 'em stand up in the corner and some of 'em1464.0704
853 1465.8704they gonna go and turn them1467.1129 
855 1467.2885face to the wall,1468.5661 
857 1468.8455stand up on [one foot.]1470.1011 
859 1473.0673Pretty good.1473.6995
861 1473.9981Uh.1474.5146 
863 1475.1248Do you remember the smartest kid in your class?1476.7493 
864DTA_se1_ag3_m_021477.4517What do you say?1477.9259
865DTA_int_091478.0488Do you remember who was the smartest [kid in the-]1479.7961
866DTA_se1_ag3_m_021479.6644[Well,] no, I couldn't remember that, cause, just like I foretold you, that's been so lon- far back when I was going to school and1486.1868
867 1489.3376I /nary/ couldn't remember all of them and who was the smartest, cause I don't s-1492.7488
869 1493.2741I wouldn't know none- none of them children now if I was to meet some of 'em.1496.7381 
871DTA_se1_ag3_m_021497.4196Cause I ain't been around, cause after I left from down there and went over in the1500.3216
872 1501.2787Arkansas, I stayed around over there, different people I know there from there to Mississippi.1505.2815
874 1506.0498After I left M-1506.8971 
876 1507.2220drive from Mississippi will come up here.1508.8186 
878DTA_se1_ag3_m_021509.3421[I stayed] mostly in Mississippi in my life down there.1511.7540
880DTA_se1_ag3_m_021512.9225Farming and going on til I come to Michigan here in fifty-two.1515.8200
882 1516.4208I'm-1516.7837 
884 1516.9418I meant to say fifty-four.1518.0202 
885DTA_int_091518.9772Uh. Is there people, or a group of people you go around with around here?1522.4001
887 1522.5977Have a group of friends here in the projects or where- [anywhere?]1525.5260 
888DTA_se1_ag3_m_021525.2319[Oh] well yeah, yeah.1526.9194
889 1527.3672It's a friend out, down /?/ down out a while ago.1529.3960
891 1529.8746Me and him looking on the TV /??/.1531.6351 
893 1531.8502I don't know if we was fixing it or messing it up, but we were looking it over <laugh>1536.0774 
895 1538.5696And so, his wife, just a while ago told me say some white people that- so I was kind of wondering, who was it.1543.7545 
897 1544.5536And then they come to me about the lady who had come here on last Tuesday, I believe it was. Say somebody be here Wednesday, but I had forgot all about it.1551.0381 
898DTA_int_091551.2928Oh, is that right?1551.9513
900 1553.7280Well, that's okay.1554.5219 
902 1555.1196Uh.1555.5630 
904 1555.8966How about are there any of them, of your friends that you know now, if there's anybody that speaks any other languages like Spanish or anything?1562.0485 
905DTA_se1_ag3_m_021562.4876Well, not-1563.3782
907 1565.5338not as I know. Though, I know the lady that's name is /RD-NAME-2/, she said she had been1571.1726 
909 1571.7685around1572.6407 
911 1572.7966she had been a while- she'd been over on Germany and all them different place, she can talk1576.7339 
913 1577.2695this kind of language there.1578.3891 
915DTA_se1_ag3_m_021580.5300And I never could talk none like that. Now,1582.6286
917 1583.4583I got a1584.3276 
919 1585.4208step-son now, he can talk that kind of stuff.1587.6331 
921DTA_se1_ag3_m_021589.2119I notice him talking that kind of junk. Uh, sometime I asked him what it is he saying?1592.9366
923 1593.3274I be wanting to know is he cussing me out. [<laugh>]1596.3457 
924DTA_int_091595.3815[Is that right?]1595.8233
925 1596.7304How about there any white friends?1598.1388
927 1598.3624White people that get around?1599.6720 
928DTA_se1_ag3_m_021600.3349Oh, well.1601.2174
930 1601.4325No more than the man I trade over to the store with now.1603.8516 
932 1604.2188[I think] that he can talk- they talks that kind of language too.1607.1252 
934DTA_se1_ag3_m_021607.2866And then they can talk plain language like me, and then they-1609.6145
936 1609.9745they talk with one another, and you can not understand 'em1612.2278 
937DTA_int_091612.3463[Is that right?]1613.0043
938DTA_se1_ag3_m_021612.5653[I just stand] up and look at 'em.1613.7638
939 1615.0941I'm wondering what they saying. I know they- I understand, well ya- when y'all get through talking, y'all can wait on.<laugh>.1620.7341
940DTA_int_091622.6224Uh-huh. What did you want to do when you finished school when you were younger?1625.6649
942 1625.8888Did you have any idea?1626.8092 
943DTA_se1_ag3_m_021626.8092Oh well, none that I did. I said I always wanted to be a mechanic.1630.4532
946 1632.1215[What's-]1632.4141 
947DTA_se1_ag3_m_021632.3087[And] if I ever went to1633.5907
948 1634.0297you know, ch- uh, go- went to school to finish, I wanted to be a mechanic.1637.1820
950 1637.4454A car mechanic.1638.2912 
952 1638.8901Fix cars.1639.5662 
954DTA_se1_ag3_m_021641.5784Learn how to work on cars.1642.8165
956 1642.9526And that's the biggest of /hard work/ I do now.1644.7871 
958 1646.4560Most of what I do right now is1648.1594 
960 1650.0369messing around with old pieces of cars if I ain't fooling with1652.4692 
962 1653.6019radios or television.1655.5050 
964DTA_se1_ag3_m_021656.4518/?/ like this here /unintelligible/ I1658.1377
966 1658.5284played my record player now1660.0518 
968 1660.6094I got music all in here.1661.9748 
970 1662.7657I can hook it up and hear music all over the house.1665.0991 
973 1668.1680How about if you could do it all over? What would be-1670.5871 
975 1670.9529what would you wanna be?1671.7665 
976DTA_se1_ag3_m_021672.7675What's that?1673.2153
977DTA_int_091673.4216If you could do it all over,1674.7591
979 1675.0840you know, if- if you could start anew, what would you wanna be now? Same thing?1678.3056 
980DTA_se1_ag3_m_021679.0309Well, that's my biggest /??/ I wants1680.8002
982 1682.2035was, was mechanic1683.4592 
984 1683.6081it's two1684.0167 
986 1684.4382two things that I said I wanted, since I've been in Michigan, mechanic and driver's license.1688.1860 
988 1688.9104That's my whole wish. Now I said I-1690.9079 
990 1691.7553Else I1692.3480 
992 1692.5631feel like like I did and didn't get no job, I1694.5460 
994 1695.2352wanna try to work, and get- oh, somebody told me if I get a lawyer, I could get a driver's license.1699.3456 
996 1699.9120Well, the school tell me1701.1961 
998 1702.0127said, the /times/ now, they can't get them.1704.2266 
1000 1704.3305Said you have to school.1705.5710 
1002DTA_se1_ag3_m_021706.5105And so, now, made up my mind to try to go to school, I don't know how I'm'a come out with it.1711.6592
1004 1712.6470They carried me through all /tests/, I think that's what it is.1715.0704 
1006 1715.2570And, but I asked him,1716.2887 
1008 1717.2151I wonder how come it costed so much,1719.3033 
1010 1719.5272a hundred and ninety-five dollars for1721.4590 
1012 1722.6092get the las- your license, and she said, well, we guarantee your money1726.3217 
1014 1726.7125or your license, either one you want.1728.1865 
1016 1729.2972I said, well,1730.3202 
1018 1730.9172so, that sounds alright, if I can get the license, I don't care, I just told 'em, I don't care if I pay a thousand dollars for license, I would like to have one, /I wanted just that day./1738.8665 
1020DTA_se1_ag3_m_021740.4082Cause I want to, you know, get something to carry my kids around.1743.5319
1022DTA_se1_ag3_m_021744.3748Poor thing.1745.6584
1024 1745.8516Do not be scared to drive, only cause I didn't have a license.1748.7695 
1026 1749.1031I done owned1749.8495 
1028 1750.1480two cars since I've been here in Michigan.1751.6041 
1030 1752.0036Got put up once and so1753.8080 
1032 1754.3919I wouldn't risk it no more.1756.1129 
1035 1757.5119Um.1757.9509 
1037 1758.8948Can you tell me what you do? And uh, what you do in your work in a daily, uh, regular day?1763.6270 
1039 1763.8026Do you work around the house here [a lot?]1765.7617 
1040DTA_se1_ag3_m_021765.0933[Oh, big. My] job is here is cooking and cleaning up this house and washing.1768.4837
1041 1768.7691<laugh> [In here.]1770.2634
1042DTA_int_091769.3502[Is that right?]1769.8770
1043 1771.4279Uh-huh.1771.8625
1044DTA_se1_ag3_m_021771.8625And that's the biggest doing around here, and trying to keep them /little ?/. That's one of my daughters there.1776.1644
1046misc1777.4092Come on, let's play. Let's play some [picking /?/.]1779.4912
1047DTA_se1_ag3_m_021779.0088[Now, she] go down town to the Catholic School.1781.7468
1049DTA_se1_ag3_m_021783.6697Alright, here.1784.8859
1050DTA_int_091788.3799Okay, uh. Good. Uh. Do you know what they call this part of town here?1791.4970
1051DTA_se1_ag3_m_021792.8055What'd you say?1793.3542
1052DTA_int_091793.5650Uh, yeah, do you know what they call this part of town here? Any name for this part of town?1797.4767
1053DTA_se1_ag3_m_021798.8728No, all I know is Detroit, Michigan here /??/ one.1802.5811
1055 1802.8533This here is the1803.7753 
1056DTA_int_091805.4860Say, could you girls possibly play some [place else?]1807.7426
1057DTA_se1_ag3_m_021807.5406[Go] outdoors, uh, will you?1808.8445
1058 1809.2440I told y'all go outdoors.1810.6358
1060 1811.8547I think I tell go on, go outdoor.1813.1817 
1063 1815.1090How about this city. What's this city called?1817.0464 
1065 1819.1740City of what?1820.0651 
1066DTA_se1_ag3_m_021820.4604City of Detroit.1821.3121
1069 1822.5530Uh. Can you think of some of the big streets in Detroit?1825.2399 
1070DTA_se1_ag3_m_021827.9384Well. N-1829.1150
1072 1832.0170I can't really tell you1833.2693 
1074 1833.4449about the longest name I sees in uh, Detroit with a street- just a street name.1838.1177 
1076 1838.3837Oh, the bigger the street name is Woodward Avenue.1840.8661 
1078DTA_se1_ag3_m_021841.4324That's the mains /?/ street.1843.1929
1080DTA_se1_ag3_m_021844.5050And that divided1845.5148
1082 1845.8924I reckon cause they said this here's the East Side,1848.7142 
1084 1849.1357and cross Woodward is the West Side.1850.8347 
1086DTA_se1_ag3_m_021852.7977Well, that must be the biggest street1854.4923
1088 1855.0016[dividing]1855.8577 
1090DTA_se1_ag3_m_021856.6571of the city.1857.3806
1091DTA_int_091860.1069Good. Uh. Any other streets you can think of? Any that begin with a Liver- Livermore?1864.4962
1092DTA_se1_ag3_m_021865.5850Well, don't know it, uh.1867.6002
1094 1868.0787[See.]1868.7674 
1095DTA_int_091868.4080[How about] these, uh, you mentioned Expressway before.1871.0548
1096 1871.6112Anything else you can call an expressway?1873.8678
1097DTA_se1_ag3_m_021875.0301What do you mean by call an expressway?1876.6765
1098DTA_int_091876.8126Yeah. Remember, you mentioned [Expressway.]1878.4737
1099DTA_se1_ag3_m_021878.2850[What] are you talking about? Chrysler?1879.1147
1101DTA_se1_ag3_m_021880.0016Well, that's just lately pull up through here.1882.0051
1103DTA_se1_ag3_m_021883.2888Well, the Ford Expressway, that's been up a good while I reckon.1886.7105
1105DTA_se1_ag3_m_021887.1258[Cause that's] when I come here.1888.3597
1107DTA_se1_ag3_m_021890.0632[And the-]1890.4407
1108DTA_int_091890.0632[Any other] expressways?1891.4419
1109DTA_se1_ag3_m_021895.1149I hear tell of some more, but I don't know exactly the name of 'em.1898.0651
1112 1899.6002Okay, good though.1900.5266 
1114 1900.9963Uh.1901.4880 
1116 1901.8656Where were you born?1902.7217 
1117DTA_se1_ag3_m_021903.8851Where was I born at?1904.7895
1119 1904.9256Memphis Tennessee .1905.7730 
1121DTA_se1_ag3_m_021906.9919I was born nineteen eighteen July the thirteenth.1909.0905
1123 1909.5164Is that right.1910.0564
1125 1910.7281Uh. Where else have you lived in Detroit? Any place else?1913.3124 
1126DTA_se1_ag3_m_021913.4310Well, I used to live on /RD-ADDRESS-6/.1915.5032
1128 1915.7095[/RD-ADDRESS-4/]1916.6710 
1130 1917.0134[Yeah.]1917.3954
1131DTA_se1_ag3_m_021917.2110[After] I moved from there, I moved over here in the projects over here on Hastings, used to be Hastings, but it's Chrysler now.1921.8720
1134DTA_int_091924.6583Have you ever lived any place else outside of Detroit?1927.2610
1135DTA_se1_ag3_m_021927.3583No, i-1927.7798
1137 1928.0432not di- not since I've been here in Detroit.1930.2332 
1139 1930.3788That's the only two places I've been.1931.9568 
1140DTA_int_091932.6565How about, where have you gone on trips?1934.0376
1141DTA_se1_ag3_m_021935.2286Well, I ain't never been on no trips since I've been here in Michigan.1937.6514
1143 1937.8841No more- went over to Canada with uh,1939.8246 
1145DTA_se1_ag3_m_021940.7290saw my friend- boys fishing.1942.2865
1146 1943.7221Going over there with them fishing.1945.1198
1148 1945.4579Talking about, that's as far as I've been since I've been here in Michigan.1948.3071 
1150 1950.5632Yeah, the years I've been out /Ionia/.1952.2074 
1152 1952.7863/Ionia/.1953.3922 
1154 1954.4237Yeah, went out to /Ionia/ with my mother-in-law1956.2573 
1156 1956.4242to see her husband.1957.2671 
1159 1958.5403Uh. How about uh,1959.9803 
1161 1960.1588holidays, do you have any holidays around here?1962.1125 
1162DTA_se1_ag3_m_021963.0871Well, [yeah. The Fourth] of July and the, uh.1966.6575
1163DTA_int_091963.4691[What holidays?]1964.4997
1164DTA_se1_ag3_m_021970.5440Thirtieth of May.1971.5318
1167 1973.3274How about that holiday around the thirty-first of October, do you know what they celebrate then?1977.3737 
1168DTA_se1_ag3_m_021977.8610That's /unintelligible/ Day ain't it?1978.9762
1169DTA_int_091979.4915This is when the-1980.3212
1171 1980.8925when the ladies fly on the brooms.1982.5608 
1172DTA_se1_ag3_m_021984.0915Lady fly on a broom?1985.3954
1174DTA_se1_ag3_m_021985.7071[I] don't know about that.1987.2613
1175DTA_int_091987.2613When the kids dress up and go around to the different houses and knock on the doors.1991.1176
1177 1991.7119What do you call that?1992.4802 
1179 1993.4861And they ask for food.1994.6803 
1180DTA_se1_ag3_m_021994.9174Oh, you're talking about Halloween Night.1996.4129
1182DTA_se1_ag3_m_021997.0276Oh. [<laugh>]1998.2086
1183DTA_int_091997.7871[What are] those ladies who fly on the brooms?1999.6927
1185DTA_int_092000.5749What are those ladies called that fly on the brooms?2002.5227
1187DTA_int_092003.8916[How about] those things they put in the window? They carve them out with faces, you know.2007.6209
1189 2008.2706Talking about the pumpkins?2009.1794
1191DTA_se1_ag3_m_022009.8336Yeah, well I raised a-many of them all I know is that-2012.3448
1192DTA_int_092012.9463[Is that right?]2013.4204
1193DTA_se1_ag3_m_022013.3150[Now] I plowed the ground planting many pumpkin seeds,2015.8614
1194 2016.4761watermelon,2017.1506
1196 2017.5150cantaloupe,2018.0638 
1199DTA_int_092021.8043Is that right?2022.2949
1202 2023.6126I planted all that stuff like that when I was in the South.2026.3499 
1203DTA_int_092026.8421Oh, what's that /?/?2027.8388
1204DTA_se1_ag3_m_022027.7987I had to break up ground and plant all that every year.2030.4400
1206DTA_se1_ag3_m_022031.4058Fall the year, we uh,2032.7405
1208 2033.3487plant turnips, for the winter.2034.8068 
1211 2037.0151What do they uh,2037.9678 
1213 2039.0741what do they say when they go around to the2041.0175 
1215 2041.2107doors on Halloween? They say anything when they knock on the door?2043.8712 
1216DTA_se1_ag3_m_022045.8453Trick or treat.2046.4468
1219DTA_int_092048.0317Anything else they say?2049.1600
1220DTA_se1_ag3_m_022051.7136Well, I never did follow my kids around most, because I stayed at home all the time.2055.3575
1222DTA_se1_ag3_m_022056.1346And so I didn't-2056.8447
1223 2058.5739the biggest, I don't know how-2060.0666
1225 2061.0237how them kids aks me, I just see them, they go come here, I tell 'em I ain't got nothing, they leave the door.2065.2149 
1227 2065.8735I don't know how mine do it, they leaves here and they come back, they have a bag of candy and [different stuff.]2070.4432 
1229 2070.9085How about that night before Halloween when they turn over garbage pails and they2074.4778
1231 2075.0251ring doorbells [/inaudible/]2076.7329 
1232DTA_se1_ag3_m_022075.6178[Oh, we- we]2076.7329
1233 2077.1149never- we have no trouble with that around here alright. [<laugh>]2080.1090
1234DTA_int_092079.6173[Is that right?]2080.1969
1235 2081.6880What kinds of things do fights start about around here?2084.3617
1236DTA_se1_ag3_m_022085.2398What'd you say?2085.6525
1237DTA_int_092085.7710What kinds of things to fights start about around here?2088.0595
1238DTA_se1_ag3_m_022090.6021Well, the- these kids is interested mostly about ball and playing.2094.3514
1240 2095.1460Throwing2095.9917 
1242 2096.3923water maybe, or2097.9010 
1244 2098.4191taking one another's toys or something.2100.4737 
1247 2101.4616And I didn't growed up around here, what they said, teenagers, they2104.7312
1249 2106.5619you can't hardly tell what they're talking about, half of the time and when you see them, they done started. Now what it about, I don't know.2111.9817 
1252 2112.9707Are there any rules for fair fights?2114.7719 
1254 2115.9216Like, you know, no kicking or anything?2117.9148 
1255DTA_se1_ag3_m_022119.1045Mm. Well.2120.0863
1256DTA_int_092120.6833Or does anything go?2121.8292
1257DTA_se1_ag3_m_022122.6897I guess they gets anything they get they hand on, I reckon, when they starts.2125.9238
1259DTA_se1_ag3_m_022126.5077Cause I- that's one thing I never did.2128.7248
1260 2129.9193Some of 'em /wet/. I never was a gambler and neither a whiskey drinker either.2133.4077
1262 2134.0004Them two things I never done.2135.3263 
1264DTA_se1_ag3_m_022136.3355I never did like it, and so I didn't take up with it.2138.2145
1266 2139.9180And so, that told me to be out there /tryna do it/ when I get round such crowd like that, I keep moving [cause I know] what it's gonna cause.2146.9155 
1268DTA_se1_ag3_m_022148.7359And so I haven't been locked up but once in my life. And that was2151.5729
1270 2151.6999since I've been here in Michigan. That was driving without a license. /Ask me and I wish I had some/.2155.7543 
1272 2156.2460And then I was carrying my wife to the hospital then.2158.4499 
1274 2158.9592When he stopped me, he just said it was a routine check.2161.0221 
1276 2162.0977He just pulled me over and asked me2163.7704 
1278 2164.1436about my driver license I told him I didn't have none, I said, just carrying my wife down here to Receiving Hospital.2168.4296 
1280DTA_se1_ag3_m_022169.4283And so he had pulled the car aside and carried me on to jail and carried her to the hospital.2173.1924
1281DTA_int_092173.6666[Is that r-]2174.1978
1282DTA_se1_ag3_m_022173.8334[I s-]2174.1715
1283 2174.6291so, I went on out there on house arrest and stayed five days. The judge tell me2178.2906
1285 2179.0106twenty-five dollar fine or2180.7433 
1287 2181.0067five days in house /incarceration,/ well I couldn't pay cause I was on the welfare.2184.8306 
1289DTA_se1_ag3_m_022185.4086[Wasn't working.]2186.1418
1290 2186.8662So, I just put up the five days.2188.5177
1291DTA_int_092189.3423How was that?2189.9262
1292DTA_se1_ag3_m_022190.2862Out there at /Jehovah's/.2191.3624
1294 2191.9682[House arrest.]2192.6959 
1295DTA_int_092192.1691[Well, what] was that like for five days there?2193.9691
1296DTA_se1_ag3_m_022193.9691Oh, well, I went out there and stayed out there and2196.7042
1297 2197.3891it just like it was down south, they do the same thing like that.2200.2483
1299 2200.4738Long day, farming, chopping2201.9577 
1301 2202.6602vegetables and2203.7182 
1303 2204.2670milking cows2205.2740 
1305 2206.4023push one thing or another out there, cooking.2208.4438 
1308 2210.1532Uh.2210.6230 
1310 2210.8030Did you ever see anybody get beat up real bad?2212.7523 
1311DTA_se1_ag3_m_022214.0854Uh, no. I never, I ain't2215.7888
1313 2216.7942never be lucky enough to get around nothing like that.2219.1459 
1315DTA_se1_ag3_m_022220.1469Never have.2221.0381
1317 2221.2883I hear- hear tell folks, uh, you know, see people get shot and2224.7742 
1319 2224.9279cut.2225.2381 
1321 2226.2083I just happen to be lucky enough to see none of it. When I see it, it'd be all over with.2229.9576 
1323DTA_se1_ag3_m_022231.2204I never did chance to be in nothing like that to see it.2233.8407
1325 2235.4175Every time I look up and see a crowd or something, I know that it'd be over when I get there.2238.9501 
1327 2239.5656Well, I never did heard nothing like that.2241.1936 
1329 2241.9707I tried always did start a bad company in with, ever since I was small, I-2245.9175 
1333 2248.7009I got up to know what the world was,2251.1671 
1335 2253.0719I tried to steer myself in the right way.2254.8851 
1337 2256.3229So,2257.0737 
1339 2257.3810people here in the state of Michigan, anyway I- he can help my record,2260.3137 
1341 2260.8817can't give 'em nothing. No kind of badness of me.2263.2568 
1343DTA_se1_ag3_m_022264.0997Cause, when I had my wife, they know that I treated her just like a man could treat a woman.2268.8434
1344 2269.3922we never fi-2270.1298
1346 2270.4107we never fight, I never cussed her, never hit her, never slapped her, nothing. The whole time, thirteen years we were together.2275.4732 
1347DTA_int_092277.0076That's a pretty good record.2278.1711
1350 2279.5227That's something I never did believe in.2280.9671 
1352DTA_se1_ag3_m_022282.0707I figured like this, you cannot raise a woman.2284.5468
1354 2285.7761If you marry a woman, she's supposed to do just like you say, y'all supposed to get on the same base of agreement.2290.2132 
1356DTA_se1_ag3_m_022290.9419If y'all can't do that other /??/.2292.7843
1357DTA_int_092293.3463Oh, yeah.2294.0970
1358DTA_se1_ag3_m_022294.0970Alright, you youngsters, y'all- you talking about how you wanted to do your talk, they want to talk with you. So, y'all done made get back here.2299.9547
1360DTA_int_092301.3333Too late, we got some substitutes instead.2303.6744
1362 2304.9591So, that's okay.2305.8986 
1364DTA_se1_ag3_m_022307.4034Oh, /?/ these are the people y'all was supposed to talk with, you know, the lady left that card. No, you wasn't here. /RD-NAME-3/'s the one was here.2313.3939
1365misc2315.9353Whatchu doing with the recorder?2317.1612
1366DTA_se1_ag3_m_022317.8297Uh, so you know what it is, don't you?2320.1098
1367DTA_int_092323.0107You can stay here and watch, if you can do it.2325.3173
1369 2326.1295Uh. Ha- have [you ever] been in a hospital?2328.4007 
1371 2328.9025Well, yeah, I was uh, s-2330.3073
1373 2330.9308in sixty-one or2331.8249 
1375 2332.0312was it sixty-one? Sixty-one or sixty-two, [for a] month.2335.8576 
1377DTA_se1_ag3_m_022337.4796Just about a month for operation.2338.9184
1378DTA_int_092339.4304Is that right? What for?2340.2909
1379DTA_se1_ag3_m_022340.5280Gall stone, what I was [telling you about.]2342.1524
1380DTA_int_092341.7617[Oh yeah.]2342.2929
1381 2345.5188Uh-huh.2345.9271
1383 2346.2256Good.2346.5637 
1385 2347.1257Uh. Have you ever been in an automobile accident?2349.1474 
1386DTA_se1_ag3_m_022350.2932Yeah, down south I have.2351.3562
1387DTA_int_092351.6503Oh, when was that?2352.1289
1389 2353.9421we was driving a car down there and a boy made a curve2356.8777
1391 2357.9840and he turned too short and about six of 'em, car turned over in a ditch with us, just lucky it didn't kill all- If it hadn't been for the fence, it would have killed us all. But the fence helped us-2365.2528 
1393 2365.7621the poles helped the- the car on top and that's what2368.3420 
1395 2368.9240saved us.2369.5582 
1397DTA_se1_ag3_m_022370.7391That's first accident.2371.7357
1399 2372.0299And other than that, that's the accident I've been in that, but I have been in tractor accidents.2376.4011 
1401DTA_se1_ag3_m_022376.8884A tractor had blowed up with me.2378.3767
1402DTA_int_092378.7406Is that right?2379.3289
1405DTA_se1_ag3_m_022380.4029[I s-] it caught a fire and blowed up by me pouring gas in it.2383.6518
1406 2384.9469You know, and it was running and all around the manifold, and hit the manifold, and that made it explode.2389.0020
1408 2389.7044See and after it explode, it made me burnt this whole leg on this side.2392.8947 
1409DTA_int_092393.1932Mm, boy.2393.8649
1411 2394.6771Uh. Were you ever in a situation where you ever thought you might be killed or die?2398.1317 
1412DTA_se1_ag3_m_022399.0677Well, never, I had never got that2400.8985
1414 2401.0945thought.2401.3447 
1416 2401.4956I ain't never had that thought in mind about dying. I had been so I couldn't move.2405.1292 
1418DTA_se1_ag3_m_022405.9107But I had never get that up in mind about dying.2408.8374
1420DTA_se1_ag3_m_022409.9570That's the last thing I think about.2411.1775
1423 2412.9253Good. Okay.2413.6278 
1424DTA_se1_ag3_m_022413.6278Last problem I think about, dying.2416.1313
1425DTA_int_092416.5264How about, sometimes people say whatever's going to happen is going to happen. What do you think about that?2421.2092
1428 2422.6053They say, uh.2423.5960 
1430 2424.2173Uh. Like I say myself.2425.8234 
1432 2426.7427I look what to come, not what's behind.2429.1458 
1434 2429.7297Cause what's gonna happen, it's gonna happen to that anyhow.2431.7844 
1436DTA_se1_ag3_m_022432.9347Whatever's gonna happen it's gonna come too, you can't stop it and ain't no need you trying.2436.8624
1438 2436.9898If it's intended for it to happen, it's gonna be that.2439.0205