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1DTA_int_021.2969Uh.1.6086
3 1.8106What kind of games do the kids play around here?3.4350 
4DTA_se2_ag3_f_033.9575Well, they play baseball and6.2409
6 6.4780um,7.2917 
8 8.0497volleyball. We have a volleyball that we got this year and11.2730 
10 12.1959we play that and13.5086 
12 13.7106they throw the balls out in the street,15.8794 
14 17.5345and football.18.7171 
16 19.5161What they call football,20.7498 
18 20.9957you know.21.4259 
19DTA_int_0221.7771How do they play their football?22.7369
20DTA_se2_ag3_f_0323.8038Was not- I don't, uh, know really.26.0165
22 26.3062I just see 'em out there on the yard and they'll be throwing it and they'll29.6061 
24 29.9441run and tackle somebody, you know. And-32.0465 
26 32.6035and they'll throw it back, I guess it's just their version of35.4370 
28 36.5126getting the practice of throwing the ball, football and [catching] it.39.4091 
29DTA_int_0238.8737[Mm.]39.0976
30 40.2773What the- what would they play at schools here?41.8666
31DTA_se2_ag3_f_0342.2617At school, they have basketball,44.3970
33 45.0248and uh,45.8683 
35 45.9957I think46.4714 
37 46.6426uh,47.0801 
39 47.3435volleyball, I think that's mostly all that they play at49.8437 
41 50.0939uh,50.4583 
43 50.6822the school that my sons go to.52.8477 
45 54.1670And, uh. Oh. Kickball.55.4906 
46DTA_int_0255.6286[Kickball.]56.1183
47DTA_se2_ag3_f_0355.6378[They play] kickball.56.7441
48 57.3192And, uh.58.4497
49DTA_int_0258.8245Do you know how to play kickball?59.7156
50DTA_se2_ag3_f_0359.9074Yeah, I played it when I was in grade school.62.0367
51DTA_int_0262.0718How do you play kickball?62.9103
52DTA_se2_ag3_f_0363.3230Oh, dear. Let's see if I can remember.65.1362
54 65.3305I know- I forget how many is on a team, but anyways, they68.4959 
56 69.0798roll the ball. It's something like uh, baseball, except that the ball is72.9042 
58 73.3872a big basketball.74.7179 
59DTA_int_0274.7706Mm-hm.75.0165
60DTA_se2_ag3_f_0375.0077And75.2492
61 75.4731they roll it and the person kicks it.77.5102
63 78.2258And you run around to the bases and80.6849 
64DTA_int_0280.3030[Mm-hm.]80.6849
65DTA_se2_ag3_f_0381.4883uh82.0107
67 83.2707I guess it's a84.1087 
69 84.2492on the ground baseball, [sort of.]86.0712 
70DTA_int_0285.7331[Mm-hm.]86.0404
71 87.2873What kind of-87.7262
73 88.1540what other kind of games did you used to play?89.6399 
74DTA_se2_ag3_f_0389.7540<ts> Well, I played tennis,91.3093
76 91.8789uh, when I was in high school.93.5194 
78 94.2745And uh, I've forgotten how to count, but97.4794 
80 97.7297a girlfriend of mine, she and I, we99.7009 
82 100.2441been trying to practice101.5832 
84 101.7011this102.0793 
86 102.2637summer's last, past two summers anyway.105.0937 
88 105.9828Uh. I won't get any practice this summer because she's gone to California.110.0906 
90 110.3935And my husband, he's uh,112.0135 
92 112.8608I don't think he's-113.7411 
94 113.8947he likes baseball and he likes football,116.0180 
96 116.2155but I think he likes to watch it more or less.118.9093 
97DTA_int_02118.9093[Mm-hm.]119.2342
98DTA_se2_ag3_f_03119.6030Uh, he did play, uh120.9643
100 121.2453baseball with, uh, some of the men around here in the neighborhood a couple of years ago.125.3264 
102 125.9850But, they stopped.127.0345 
104 127.5263And, uh,128.1058 
106 128.5404I think because he has one kidney,130.3960 
108 130.8175I think that has a lot131.8097 
110 132.1697to do with him not, you know, taking it up himself.134.7994 
112 135.5880But he said he did like baseball.137.4100 
114 137.9280And he likes, uh, bowling, we bowl.139.9299 
116 141.0085Uh. We did.142.5275 
118 143.1158Uh. We don't go too much now.144.8456 
120 146.2885And, uh,147.2456 
122 147.4607I like swimming.148.5802 
124 149.6339Uh.150.2178 
126 150.5822I can't swim though, [but I like] it, you know.152.8171 
127DTA_int_02151.7704[Mm-hm.]152.1352
129 152.4904[Mm.]152.7539 
130DTA_se2_ag3_f_03153.1885I took- I went to the154.2290
132 154.6417Y.155.1158 
134 155.3485on Y's day out on Thursday.157.6144 
136 158.1863And uh, I was trying to learn how to swim.160.5614 
138 160.8907<ts> and I got as far as the162.2956 
140 163.1633I think the back stroke.164.4014 
141DTA_int_02164.4014Mm-hm.164.6868
142DTA_se2_ag3_f_03165.2663That's as far as I got.166.4648
143DTA_int_02166.8998Are you afraid of the water or?167.9356
144DTA_se2_ag3_f_03168.1331No, I'm not afraid of the water,169.7926
146 170.1219but I mean, with four children, it's sort of [hard to]173.1468 
147DTA_int_02172.3642[Yeah. Right.]173.1468
148DTA_se2_ag3_f_03173.3663you know.173.8273
149DTA_int_02173.9426/?/174.1385
150DTA_se2_ag3_f_03174.0556Uh.174.5758
151 175.3837Get out. I only had176.2727
153 176.4307two and the baby when I was going. Now I've got four and180.0554 
155 180.9878I mean,181.4488 
157 182.2654uh, it costs money, you know, to go Y and every time, you185.4308 
159 185.5877think you're gonna do something for yourself, well a-187.7697 
161 188.1037something for them, [you know.]189.6092 
162DTA_int_02189.0651[/inaudible./]189.6092
163DTA_se2_ag3_f_03190.3994And I'm tryna give them191.8394
165 192.3926a better break193.7466 
167 194.7581than I had.196.0651 
169 197.5192Cause, I mean, you have to have an [education now,]199.5756 
170DTA_int_02199.1727[Mm-hm.]199.5942
171DTA_se2_ag3_f_03199.8240make it.200.2902
172DTA_int_02200.4834Mm-hm.200.8164
173DTA_se2_ag3_f_03202.4982<ts>202.5672
175 202.7727so.203.2836 
176DTA_int_02204.0547Um.204.3840
178 205.5634Could you explain how to play tennis to somebody who doesn't know how to play tennis?208.3030 
179DTA_se2_ag3_f_03208.7947Hm. <ts>209.6684
181 210.6195I don't know whether I could or not, uh.213.2361 
183 214.4479It's been about fifteen years since217.0414 
185 217.5331I had it in high school, but.219.2146 
187 219.9917Well,220.4790 
189 221.0804uh,221.7390 
191 222.9621you can have,223.6575 
193 223.8990uh, singles, or you can have225.8122 
195 225.9615doubles.226.7868 
197 227.5859That's, uh,228.4112 
199 228.9337two people on one team playing against two other people on another team, or you can have uh,233.6488 
201 234.3293uh, singles, as235.6036 
203 236.0594one against one.237.1333 
204DTA_int_02237.2977Mm-hm.237.6197
205DTA_se2_ag3_f_03237.8254And uh,238.7342
207 239.5683uh, the court is made like a-241.7795 
209 242.9254a square.244.0537 
211 244.6727And245.1381 
213 245.5069it has a line246.7493 
215 248.5713where you have to stand, and you serve the ball251.2718 
217 251.7767to the other252.3826 
219 252.6529person253.2606 
221 253.5855and you throw the ball up. And it's a certain way you have to serve the ball. Hit the ball when you serve it.258.2941 
223 258.8297You can't, uh,259.8965 
225 260.2741say, side swipe it or, you know, like you're gonna262.8182 
227 263.1255swing like you're playing baseball, but you hafta sort of throw the ball up and then you267.0609 
229 267.5262hit at it.268.4185 
231 268.9366with the racket straight up.270.4337 
233 271.3908And271.7508 
235 272.1195you have to get it in273.1787 
237 274.3058side the line, if it goes outside of the line, then,277.0043 
239 277.4784uh, the other person gets the point.279.4836 
240DTA_int_02279.4925Mm-hm.279.7856
241DTA_se2_ag3_f_03280.8139Or I think that's the way it goes. I done forgot how to score.284.2910
243 285.7030But, uh,286.4406 
245 287.7170I mean, I was pretty good at it [in high] school, my teacher told me I shoulda been on the team.292.0327 
246DTA_int_02289.0115[Mm-hm.]289.2793
247DTA_se2_ag3_f_03292.4761But, I mean, to tell you now, you wouldn't think I would- shoulda been.295.4148
248DTA_int_02295.5729Yeah.295.8451
249DTA_se2_ag3_f_03296.9251But.297.2400
250DTA_int_02298.0347Do you watch television?298.7684
251DTA_se2_ag3_f_03299.3167Yeah. I'll watch television,300.6677
253 300.9882just about, uh,301.9980 
255 302.3009not too much in the summertime. There's reruns, but,304.7770 
257 305.2078in the winter time, I'd say that's about307.0386 
259 307.5083half of my day308.4654 
260DTA_int_02308.7222Mm-hm.308.9418
261DTA_se2_ag3_f_03309.1042we'll watch the309.9164
263 310.0887you know, the morning series.311.8283 
264DTA_int_02311.9074What's your favorite program?312.8732
265DTA_se2_ag3_f_03313.4676<ts>313.5378
267 313.6871Well, I like uh.315.3180 
269 315.5156Peyton Place.316.5473 
271 317.1751And I like, uh,318.3429 
273 318.9971the soap operas during the morning.321.0391 
274DTA_int_02321.1094Mm-hm.321.3552
275DTA_se2_ag3_f_03321.4913And, uh,322.2377
277 322.6372Love of Life and Search for Tomorrow, and325.3707 
279 326.1521As the World Turns.327.4747 
281 327.6196Those are my favorite daytime329.4025 
283 329.5299soap operas. And then330.8513 
285 331.3694I like Uncle.332.8050 
287 333.1826And, uh,334.0771 
289 334.9771I like, uh,336.0878 
291 336.7727Ed Sullivan.337.8779 
293 339.1819And, um,340.1828 
295 340.7316Bewitched.341.5405 
297 341.7732I like that.342.4230 
299 342.9586The children, they like Batman.344.7805 
300DTA_int_02344.7805Mm-hm.345.0747
301DTA_se2_ag3_f_03345.3946Lost in Space, that's one of our favorites.348.0919
303 348.3904And, um,349.2246 
305 351.0070uh,351.7370 
307 352.4794Jackie Gleason, I watch him354.0467 
309 354.5955once in a while.355.4516 
311 356.9959And uh.357.7730 
312DTA_int_02358.6526Can you tell me about one of the, uh,360.1102
314 360.2990uh.360.7249 
316 361.5371stories or episodes on, uh, one of those soap operas?364.6135 
317DTA_se2_ag3_f_03364.8367[One those soap] operas?365.9921
318DTA_int_02364.8374[/inaudible/]365.4301
319DTA_se2_ag3_f_03366.6210Well, now, for367.4815
321 367.6741just of Peyton Place now, um,369.7183 
323 370.7040<ts> I think one of the characters is getting ready to go out, Mia373.4991 
325 374.0040Farrow.374.5572 
327 375.1674I believe she's getting out, sh- I don't think she wants to stay. But right now,378.4689 
329 379.3513they're trying to find out380.6772 
331 381.1821uh,381.6914 
333 382.0909there's a382.5014 
335 382.6594character in there by the name of Steven Cord.385.1399 
337 385.6624He's a lawyer.386.7226 
339 387.4411And he's married to, uh,389.4211 
341 390.3036uh, Rodney's Harrington ex-wife.392.8554 
343 393.3164And, uh,393.9690 
345 395.5495they're trying to find out whether Peyton-397.6590 
347 398.1881uh, Mr. Peyton who's the400.0517 
349 400.7674big shot of the thing. He owns Peyton place, sort of,403.2116 
351 403.8307the town was named after him.405.2795 
353 405.9029And they're trying to406.5380 
355 406.8497uh, Steven Cord thought-408.3292 
357 408.5838thought that, uh,409.7956 
359 410.3399Mr. Peyton was his father, that's the way they had you believing for a while, then414.6497 
361 415.1853I guess they changed the version of it. And now they've gotten,417.9804 
363 418.2219uh,418.5862 
365 418.7926Steven Cord with a sister,420.8571 
367 421.2611that just came in the story.422.8097 
369 423.5385And uh, she wants to425.0472 
371 425.3370prove- uh,426.3380 
373 426.8385find out whether she was428.2038 
375 428.6692at fault of pushing a boy over a cliff, seventeen years ago and causing him to go blind.434.4102 
377 434.9107So, she's obtained436.1077 
379 436.3711Steven Cord,437.3765 
381 437.8507her brother, who she doesn't know is her brother yet,440.0809 
383 440.2960uh,440.7307 
385 440.8975to be her lawyer, and find out whether she really pushed the boy over or not.444.7199 
387 445.4224And, uh,446.1951 
389 446.4936her father,447.4419 
391 447.8239uh,448.3316 
393 449.4599he's a-450.4565 
395 450.6497he knows that Steven Cord was his son.453.0995 
397 453.8794And454.1886 
399 454.5248it's really, um,455.4072 
401 456.6233it's all confusing right now458.4014 
403 458.9502cause his father459.7850 
405 459.9828died last week.461.5477 
407 462.0263He and uh, his sister went to see his father.464.2434 
408DTA_int_02464.3751Mm-hm.464.6692
409DTA_se2_ag3_f_03464.8781But he didn't know it was his father. They went to see him.467.1172
411 467.6487And, um,468.4565 
413 468.6848he was dead when they got there. He was in the hospital and he had already died.472.6828 
415 473.3502And his mother, she knows that, um,475.9624 
417 476.4102Steven476.9809 
419 477.4770Cord and this here, Ann479.0780 
421 479.5214Howard are sisters and brothers.481.5804 
423 482.4164But,482.6754 
425 483.1452the way I think it is,484.3832 
427 484.4798I think Peyton place, I mean Peyton's daughter,487.2062 
429 488.0535who is dead, I think she had these two out of, uh,491.4193 
431 492.6574un-wedlock.493.7158 
432DTA_int_02493.7553[Mm-hm.]494.0143
433DTA_se2_ag3_f_03493.9178[And]494.3549
434 495.5227they gave the496.3638
436 496.6316daughter to the father, and498.4774 
438 498.7979Steven Cord was given to Peyton's uh,501.3164 
440 501.6764housekeeper, or502.8837 
442 503.1208secretary, private secretary.505.0584 
444 505.7696And, uh,506.5057 
446 507.5447she's trying to keep, uh, Steven Cord from finding out510.2623 
448 511.4608that Ann Colby is his sister.513.1408 
449DTA_int_02513.3837Mm-hm.513.5856
450DTA_se2_ag3_f_03515.1032And, uh,515.8540
452 516.2974that's what's going on it right now.517.8911 
453DTA_int_02519.4174Very good.519.8739
455 520.8574Do you have any- uh,521.6646 
457 521.8754do you have any pets or animals around here?523.2819 
458DTA_se2_ag3_f_03524.0634Not uh, in our household, no. But526.3887
460 526.7970little boy next door has a dog and there's a dog upstairs and530.6041 
462 531.6621uh, couple of dogs back over there.533.8529 
464 534.3139Uh. We can't have any because my little four year old, he has, uh,537.9124 
466 538.8311uh,539.3348 
468 539.6114slight case of [asthma.]541.1346 
469DTA_int_02541.0029[Oh.] That's too bad.541.6878
470DTA_se2_ag3_f_03542.1490Well, he's growing out- he's out growing it though.544.2504
472 544.6587He was real bad with it546.1953 
474 546.9592when he was a year old, he was in and out of the hospital. Uh,549.9826 
476 550.8870he'd go in,551.8265 
478 552.1821come home for four days, and then he'd be back in for two weeks, and then he'd come home, and stay a week, and then he'd be back.557.4336 
480 558.0145This here went on for about a year.560.0651 
482 560.9743And then561.4639 
484 561.6551um,562.2007 
486 563.1193<ts> the last563.8117 
488 564.0472bad attack he had565.3039 
490 566.0769he went into convulsions and stopped breathing.568.6195 
491DTA_int_02568.7221Oh my god.569.2144
492DTA_se2_ag3_f_03569.2583And um,569.9950
494 570.6682a police officer, who had just gotten back from, uh,573.8687 
496 574.4351Germany, I believe it was,575.9211 
498 576.7026and he- it was his first day back on,578.5685 
500 578.9065uh,579.3412 
502 579.9223the police force and581.1384 
504 582.3135some policemen in a station wagon were gonna drop him off on his beat,585.9135 
506 586.0760which was up on Livernois and Six Mile.588.3286 
508 588.4734And, um,589.2530 
510 589.6525When they got the call to come here to the house, you know,592.2296 
512 592.7565he- well they had him in the car.594.4628 
514 594.6823And595.0467 
516 595.2223/RD-NAME-2/ was twenty months old I believe then.597.9355 
518 599.2131And I had put him in water because601.1828 
520 601.3452the ten year old w- were there he had went into convulsions.604.5677 
522 604.8399And so605.4969 
524 605.6155I know that cold water or ice would, you know, sort of shock him out of it.608.9784 
526 609.6809And I610.0672 
528 610.4931kept610.7082 
530 611.0023putting him in the water, but then612.8535 
532 613.3145every time I'd take him out, he would go right back into the convulsions.616.2779 
534 616.8048And by the time the policemen got here, he was turning real yellow,619.8589 
536 620.1882and uh,620.8687 
538 621.3209they handed to the baby to uh,623.0232 
540 623.1505the policeman in the back.624.3202 
542 625.0866Uh. Halfway to Mount Carmel,627.3311 
544 627.4892he stopped breathing.628.5736 
546 629.2102And I seen this policeman throw off his hat631.2110 
548 631.3559in the back of the car,632.6861 
550 633.2552and started giving him mouth to mouth, uh635.7445 
552 635.9816<ts>636.0474 
554 636.2055/respirtation/. Is that it?637.4435 
555DTA_int_02638.2981Resuscitation. Yeah.639.0664
556DTA_se2_ag3_f_03639.3342And uh,640.1684
558 640.5723 I was641.2265 
560 641.4855about seven months pregnant with the last baby, and I was screaming. I remember screaming and645.7118 
562 646.2342 I remember the policeman telling me it was bad enough driving,649.5928 
564 649.9660uh, in the traffic cause it was, uh,652.2430 
566 652.8664four o'clock653.7752 
568 653.9552in the evening, afternoon.655.3557 
570 656.4298So, uh,657.1937 
572 657.4220I told my father658.6030 
574 658.9147that uh,659.6288 
576 661.6441from somewhere I heard a voice.663.3869 
578 663.6898And it-663.9972 
580 664.2738voice said, if you665.1474 
582 665.4065trust in me,666.2011 
584 667.1011you s- you'll settle down, you know, be quiet and have faith, and the baby will be alright.671.1912 
585DTA_int_02671.2337Mm-hm.671.5602
586DTA_se2_ag3_f_03671.7250And I really did hear the voice, [you know.]673.5604
587DTA_int_02673.1697[Yeah.] I didn't say you didn't.674.4546
588DTA_se2_ag3_f_03674.5087And I s- I stopped, and then s- after that, I heard uh, /RD-NAME-2/ make a little sound.679.2475
590 680.4855<ts>680.5487 
591DTA_int_02680.5970[Hm.]680.7595
592DTA_se2_ag3_f_03680.6760[So,] uh.681.5655
593 682.6115That aged me about ten years.684.4949
595 684.7627<laugh> That.685.3686 
597 686.1485But, uh, that was the last bad attack that he had. Ever since then, uh,689.8496 
599 690.1437he's been able to hold his own.691.5601 
601 692.3196I used to have to give him medicine every four hours a day,695.3039 
603 695.9976and now I give it to him697.1917 
605 697.8547say if, uh,698.9622 
607 699.2300the- the change of the weather, like dampness if it rains, and702.2110 
609 702.9574the beginning of the spring704.7822 
611 705.1334he has a little wheezing, and the beginning of the winter, he has a little bit wheezing.709.0759 
612DTA_int_02709.3437[Mm-hm.]709.7125
613DTA_se2_ag3_f_03709.5325[That's] about all. Used to have to run a dehumidifier,712.4197
614 712.9684uh, during the summer. Every day, all day long, and all night.716.0789
616 716.3555Don't even run it now no more.717.5541 
618 719.2827So, uh,720.0905 
620 720.8890I'm glad of that.722.0453 
621DTA_int_02724.3443Do you- uh, do you like animals?725.6175
622DTA_se2_ag3_f_03726.6887<ts>726.7546
624 726.9302Well, I had728.2106 
626 728.4740uh728.9745 
628 729.5409I had dogs as pets for my own731.9775 
630 732.2277when I was younger, but,733.6151 
632 735.2467I don't know. With four kids, I just uh,737.6570 
634 738.0916I-738.6053 
636 739.2682I don't think I'd like to have one.740.7753 
637DTA_int_02740.7753Mm-hm.741.0690
638DTA_se2_ag3_f_03741.3348Unless I lived out742.4586
640 743.1300where it could stay out744.3890 
642 744.6035of the house.745.4288 
644 745.6806You know.746.0956 
646 746.5044Unless I had one of those little poodles.748.2473 
648 749.1078And then I might749.7181 
650 749.8585not mind it750.5610 
652 751.1756being in the house.752.2600 
654 753.1849But, uh,753.8522 
656 754.6995<ts> with four boys, they- uh,756.5478 
658 757.3600I don't know. They have me feeling like I'm going out to /??/ somewhere sometime, you know.761.5719 
660 762.0665But i-762.4441 
662 762.6504There was still, you know, constantly going all the time, and the more you talk to 'em, and tell 'em to stop, don't768.2173 
664 768.7222you're saying it769.2973 
666 769.7670all day long, every day of the week. And I asked my husband, I didn't have any brothers. [You know,] y- my oldest brother was eleven years older than me.776.5802 
667DTA_int_02773.6080[Mm-hm.]773.9021
668DTA_se2_ag3_f_03777.5489And. uh,778.3611
670 778.7826I told my husband,779.6255 
672 779.9636I know when I was nine and ten, I didn't act like that.782.8951 
674 783.6514<ts>783.7434 
676 783.9002And I wanted to know if I had normal children or abnormal.786.5387 
678 786.7012Know, so.787.3355 
680 787.6890I asked him, did he act like that? And he said he was worse, so I feel like I'm in good shape, you know.792.0075 
682 792.3675[<laugh>]793.9480 
683DTA_int_02793.2060[<laugh>]793.7153
684DTA_se2_ag3_f_03794.6927Ye- Yeah.795.1729
685DTA_int_02796.6997Um,797.0246
687 798.0300how do people say that you can get a wish. I'm thinking of something like, uh,800.6642 
689 801.2378the, uh, breast bone of a chicken. What's that?802.9939 
690DTA_se2_ag3_f_03803.3319<ts>803.3978
692 803.8412Oh, uh,804.7632 
694 805.0178the wing, uh.806.0188 
696 806.6451Well, they807.2422 
698 807.8217take the wing and two people809.5295 
700 810.4207put their baby fingers around it.812.3744 
701DTA_int_02812.3744Mm-hm.812.6378
702DTA_se2_ag3_f_03812.9787Uh. Around each little814.1378
704 814.5153bone part.815.1958 
705DTA_int_02815.2661Mm-hm.815.5339
706DTA_se2_ag3_f_03815.9378And uh, you make your wish, and then817.9617
708 818.2295the one person says scissors.820.8271 
710 821.6085Uh. No. I- I don't know whether they say your name first, like824.6729 
712 825.5012uh, if I was doing it with my husband, I would say /RD-NAME-1/ and he would say /RD-NAME-2/, and I would say scissors, and he would say cut, and the you would break, uh, the bone.833.3998 
713DTA_int_02833.4657Mm-hm.833.7291
714DTA_se2_ag3_f_03833.9003And whoever had the largest part of the bone, their wish would come true.837.2530
715DTA_int_02837.6882Hm.837.8462
716DTA_se2_ag3_f_03837.8984That's the way I was always told.839.2511
717DTA_int_02839.2862Mm.839.4311
719 839.6419Very good.840.0414 
720DTA_se2_ag3_f_03840.2170I've tried it, but841.1330
722 841.2823I ne- I never did get my wish. [<laugh>]843.7584 
723DTA_int_02842.8628[<laugh>]844.0965
724 846.4189Can you tell me about your school. What you studied, what subjects you848.9146
726 849.1263had.849.2887 
727DTA_se2_ag3_f_03849.5960Well, I had- uh,851.1194
729 851.8570uh, in, um,853.1681 
731 853.6686<ts> intermediate school, I had, um,855.6979 
733 856.0833Spanish one and857.7253 
735 858.3487two.859.0787 
737 859.8338And I had, uh, algebra one and two.862.9773 
739 863.7280And I had history an- and I had civics.867.6426 
741 867.7524And uh,868.6480 
743 869.6139uh,870.4641 
745 871.3421home economics.872.9226 
747 873.8007And um,874.7753 
749 875.2451<ts>875.3153 
751 875.5261gym.876.1787 
753 877.4782And I had art, and I had music.879.8797 
755 880.8192And um.881.6841 
757 882.1655Hi- in high school, I had uh,884.0314 
759 884.8750uh, biology one and two.886.8280 
761 887.9344And I had uh,889.4431 
763 889.6670physics890.5670 
765 890.9841one and two.892.1193 
767 892.5997I didn't have any chemistry.894.0988 
769 894.9953And, uh,895.9392 
771 896.4046I had sewing.897.4363 
773 898.5207And,899.0479 
775 899.7851uh,900.3298 
777 901.2894let's see.901.8909 
779 902.5143I think I had office practice.904.4329 
781 906.0206And906.5255 
783 907.4036I think that was about.908.3519 
785 909.9017Oh. Well, English and American history and um,913.0884 
787 914.3792<ts>914.4758 
789 914.5906uh,915.1328 
791 915.9318I had one year of917.0206 
793 917.2621college.918.1797 
795 919.0035Then I had business.920.2519 
797 920.6163Sh.920.9016 
799 921.4094I had business, uh, math.923.4904 
801 923.6396Then I had, uh, business English.925.6767 
803 926.6426Then I had uh,927.9055 
805 928.2479short hand929.1260 
807 929.9338one930.4738 
809 931.6504and I think I dropped two and I had type933.2864 
811 933.8923one and two.934.7879 
813 935.5035And I had filing.936.8426 
815 938.2167And uh,939.1064 
817 939.4665<ts> I wasn't good at shorthand at all.941.1743 
818DTA_int_02941.3104Mm-hm.941.5387
819DTA_se2_ag3_f_03941.9294But I fooled my professor.943.2816
821 943.9665He-944.2036 
823 944.6338wa-944.8694 
825 945.3786Our, uh, lessons were always translated in the back of the [book.]948.8470 
826DTA_int_02948.6845[Mm-hm.]948.9567
827DTA_se2_ag3_f_03949.1104You know.949.4660
829 950.5285And, uh,951.3479 
831 952.3489say he was gonna give us tests on954.2148 
833 954.6889you knew it had to be one of the three letters.956.9967 
835 957.3918But957.6904 
837 957.8616I would take and memorize all three of them.960.1840 
838DTA_int_02960.4167Mm-hm.960.6231
839DTA_se2_ag3_f_03961.2070And then when he would give the tests, then I just scribble anything, you know.964.6343
840DTA_int_02964.7177Mm-hm.965.0909
841DTA_se2_ag3_f_03965.3938And one day, he came by and967.0884
843 967.4836he says, uh, /RD-NAME-3/, he sa- I mean, /RD-NAME-2/ was my name then.970.3773 
845 970.8163He says971.1368 
847 971.2949/RD-NAME-2/, he says- um,972.5661 
849 972.9017<ts>972.9763 
851 973.4549he says, how can you translate this? Cause I was translating, you know.976.2763 
853 976.7680He says, how can you translate this here? He says this here's nothing but chicken scratches, you [know.]980.8658 
854DTA_int_02980.6594[Mm-hm.]981.1599
855DTA_se2_ag3_f_03981.5199I says, well, this is my version of short hand, you know.984.4687
857 984.7628But it wasn't anything but just this, that. All (laughing) this here and there.987.8629 
859 988.6214And I got a B, you know.990.0169 
860DTA_int_02990.0169Mm-hm.990.2145
861DTA_se2_ag3_f_03990.4471But, shorthand two you- They didn't have a translation in the back, so I had to drop it.994.8884
863 995.0421[Cause] I was flunking.996.3241 
864DTA_int_02995.0421[Mm-hm.]995.2836
865 996.3241Mm-hm.996.6182
866DTA_se2_ag3_f_03997.1363But, uh,997.6110
868 998.2854<ts> I had a pretty good memory when I was in high school.1000.9591 
870 1001.5342Uh,1002.0859 
872 1002.5468well, in fact, from grade school on up, I had a1004.6366 
874 1005.4241pretty good memory.1006.4849 
876 1007.2049I could1007.6527 
878 1008.2571take and read something and1009.7190 
880 1010.5356study it for about an hour1012.0503 
882 1012.3400and I would know it.1013.2269 
884 1013.3762You know.1013.7478 
886 1013.9893And-1014.3712 
888 1015.0492and when I was in grade school, I got1016.7683 
890 1017.1064at the time,1017.9274 
892 1018.0986E's were1018.7747 
894 1019.0557for excellent.1020.0106 
896 1020.6574And like, I have report cards from1022.5708 
898 1022.8386grades1023.4269 
900 1023.6815three on up to1025.0337 
902 1025.2444when I finished, uh, the one year at college.1027.9078 
903DTA_int_021027.9473Mm-hm.1028.3117
904DTA_se2_ag3_f_031028.4350And I was showing it to, uh, my boys, trying to1031.5346
906 1031.9589influence them to get better marks.1033.7238 
908 1034.5448Uh,1035.0672 
910 1035.3701that-1035.5765 
912 1036.1121that-1036.3755 
914 1036.6038my grades from1037.6136 
916 1038.0921the third grade1039.2584 
918 1040.1057up until the seventh,1041.2604 
920 1041.4755they were all, you know,1042.4721 
922 1042.7575the excellent marks. And like in1044.2941 
924 1044.8062uh, intermediate, then they got to be A's I think.1047.6906 
926 1048.1077And I had A's and B's, but1049.9282 
928 1050.1389it doesn't phase them, you know.1051.7414 
929DTA_int_021051.8511Yeah.1052.1145
930DTA_se2_ag3_f_031053.5765They do just the opposite.1054.9999
931DTA_int_021055.1241[/??/]1055.4553
932DTA_se2_ag3_f_031055.2805[<laugh>]1055.8024
933DTA_int_021057.2048Um,1057.6142
935 1060.2482what-1060.4798 
937 1060.7388what are in-1061.2393 
939 1061.4676what furniture is in the classroom? What things are in a classroom?1063.7940 
940DTA_se2_ag3_f_031064.3165Well, there's uh,1065.4141
942 1066.8716Desks, and uh, chair.1069.6096 
944 1070.8433And I think some of the schools have the desks and chairs combined. They're connected.1075.4131 
946 1075.7418And then there's the teacher's desk, and there's the blackboards, and1079.1076 
948 1079.7090chalk1080.4993 
950 1080.9032and uh,1081.8735 
952 1082.2642there's, um,1083.0852 
954 1083.5637cork board,1084.6174 
956 1084.9978for putting up papers.1086.7408 
958 1087.4827And then, uh,1088.3213 
960 1088.8218I believe there's a flag in some rooms.1091.5959 
962 1091.8506And, uh,1092.4465 
964 1093.6845there's a window1094.8611 
966 1095.3880stick, you know. For say, if you have windows that are high up,1098.5056 
968 1098.9798I know1099.5329 
970 1099.8446one class I had, the windows were high up.1101.9903 
972 1102.6276I think that must have been in the gym.1104.0455 
974 1104.3441<ts> And they had the long stick that would- you know, you could reach up there and pull the1107.6705 
976 1108.0173window open with.1109.0877 
977DTA_int_021109.2985Mm-hm.1109.5663
978DTA_se2_ag3_f_031110.2687And erasers and pencils and books, and um,1114.3649
980 1116.1765uh,1116.7912 
982 1117.4497depends on the classroom. Some cla-1119.6781 
984 1119.8186if it would be a1120.6502 
986 1121.3157biology room, well then there1122.6635 
988 1122.8435might be some1123.7195 
990 1124.4659test tubes or microscopes.1127.2669 
992 1128.2520Or1128.9983 
994 1129.2913say a1129.8796 
996 1130.4679tank with fishes in it, or1132.2317 
998 1133.1273uh,1133.7683 
1000 1135.0986I know a1136.0139 
1002 1136.4968or1136.7738 
1004 1136.9494a little tank with some,1138.1300 
1006 1138.5559uh,1138.9730 
1008 1139.5162turtles or frogs.1140.5172 
1010 1140.8816Must have been a frog.1141.8728 
1012 1142.5236I don't think it was a turtle.1143.4148 
1014 1143.9202Yeah. A frog. That's what it was.1145.4788 
1016 1146.1637And, uh,1147.0944 
1018 1147.6768say if it was a- if it was a cooking1149.5295 
1020 1150.1353class, then it would be, um,1151.8080 
1022 1153.4193dishes and1154.5282 
1024 1154.6687pots and1155.6281 
1026 1156.9876silverware,1158.1335 
1028 1158.5505glasses,1159.4769 
1030 1160.4296cook books.1161.5447 
1032 1162.8091And if it was a gym room, then it'd be balls and,1165.9920 
1034 1166.3477uh,1167.0369 
1036 1167.6074<ts>1167.7063 
1038 1168.3269maybe some gym shoes and1170.4760 
1040 1171.2619gym suits.1172.3614 
1042 1173.2614And1173.7882 
1044 1174.7058baseball bats.1175.9120 
1045DTA_int_021176.1858Mm-hm.1176.4449
1047 1178.2082Uh,1178.4804 
1049 1178.5990when you step outside of the room, what do you go in?1180.3024 
1050DTA_se2_ag3_f_031180.9039The hallway.1181.8917
1051DTA_int_021182.3044What is in the hallway?1183.0946
1052DTA_se2_ag3_f_031184.6054Well, usually, um,1185.7996
1054 1186.6502There could be um,1188.0419 
1056 1188.7400say, um,1189.4468 
1058 1190.2288little cabinet like, or show case where1192.4898 
1060 1192.8410they might have uh1194.1653 
1062 1194.7278<ts>1194.7832 
1064 1194.8634statues, honors statues of1197.1859 
1066 1197.7829where your school has won certain awards in maybe baseball or basketball or swimming.1202.4465 
1068 1203.0655And sometimes there's a1204.4792 
1070 1204.9182desk or two out there where some students are sitting.1207.5842 
1072 1208.1363Uh,1208.6779 
1074 1209.3480so, that during the class, if children-1211.1639 
1076 1211.5502students are walking up and down, you have a1213.7542 
1078 1214.8678uh, pass1215.9478 
1080 1216.2814card or1217.0497 
1082 1217.3527saying that you are allowed out of your class to go from one room to another.1220.7041 
1084 1221.6787And, uh,1222.6446 
1086 1223.2066or you probably see other1224.4989 
1088 1224.7931students walking up and down the hall.1226.3951 
1090 1226.7907[Lockers.]1227.6321 
1091DTA_int_021226.9033[Is there a place to] get a drink there?1228.1944
1092DTA_se2_ag3_f_031228.4311Yeah, a w- a1229.6598
1094 1229.8492water fountain.1230.7975 
1095DTA_int_021231.3067[How many] desks do they usually have in a1233.0804
1096DTA_se2_ag3_f_031231.3111[<laugh >]1231.6448
1097DTA_int_021233.4053in the schoolroom?1234.1545
1098DTA_se2_ag3_f_031234.2072Well,1234.8921
1100 1235.6417when I was going, I think had maybe between, say1239.0409 
1102 1239.1990thirty and thirty-five.1240.9009 
1103DTA_int_021241.3004Desks?1241.6209
1104DTA_se2_ag3_f_031242.4989Yeah. Desks.1243.3331
1106 1243.6360Thirty and thirty-five.1244.8565 
1107DTA_int_021246.1880What's outside the school?1247.1500
1108DTA_se2_ag3_f_031247.6519<ts>1247.7548
1110 1247.9842A playground.1249.6305 
1112 1249.9686Um,1250.7281 
1114 1251.9777might be a tennis court,1253.4704 
1116 1254.0499a baseball field.1255.7577 
1118 1256.2128Uh.1256.8450 
1119DTA_int_021257.4772What do they have on the playground for the kids to play on? Do y- do you know?1259.8260
1121 1260.7699Just in any playground. [/inaudible/]1262.2111 
1122DTA_se2_ag3_f_031261.6743[Any pl-] uh. Swings, uh, sliding boards, uh, maybe a1266.0953
1123 1267.3597uh,1267.9420
1125 1268.3416box where they have sand in it, and children can play in it.1271.3314 
1127 1271.6343Uh,1272.3894 
1129 1273.6106maybe a volleyball net1275.3447 
1131 1275.8891set up somewhere.1277.0043 
1132DTA_int_021277.2311How about these, uh, bars that the kids1278.9872
1134 1279.2876climb on?1279.7407 
1135DTA_se2_ag3_f_031279.7407Oh those, uh, monkey [bars?]1281.4485
1136DTA_int_021281.1938[Yeah.]1281.4485
1137DTA_se2_ag3_f_031281.9111[That's] what I call 'em, monkey [bars.]1283.5086
1138DTA_int_021281.9111[Mm-hm.]1282.1868
1140 1283.3242[Right.]1283.5086 
1141DTA_se2_ag3_f_031284.0266Yeah.1284.4657
1143 1284.7247Those and1285.6344 
1145 1285.9320sometimes, they have what? The1287.0867 
1147 1287.5213teeters,1288.2486 
1149 1288.6964What are those? Seesaws?1289.8818 
1151 1290.1057[Teeter-totters. That's what] we called 'em as a kid. Teeter-totters.1293.1438 
1152DTA_int_021290.1057[Mm-hm.]1290.3553
1154 1290.9361[Mm.]1291.1425 
1155DTA_se2_ag3_f_031294.0130And, uh,1294.9422
1157 1297.1945that's- I- I guess that's about it.1298.7936 
1158DTA_int_021298.9341What do kids do after school these days?1300.5014
1159DTA_se2_ag3_f_031301.5332Well,1302.1990
1161 1302.6248uh,1303.1560 
1163 1303.9726the children that go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ now,1306.2644 
1165 1306.4005my boy's school, they1307.6736 
1167 1308.1375when they get out of school, they, um,1310.0692 
1169 1310.7234come1311.1756 
1171 1311.3995home, they might stop at a store and get candy and whatnot.1314.5985 
1173 1315.4941Or walk their friends home, or stand on the corner for a little while. Tha- which they can't stand1320.5111 
1175 1320.8535near the school, they have to1322.1223 
1177 1322.4911go cause when, uh, Catholic school1324.4301 
1179 1324.9525when you uh,1325.7559 
1181 1326.9106get out, you have to go home.1328.1618 
1182DTA_int_021328.2540Mm-hm.1328.4428
1183DTA_se2_ag3_f_031328.4340The sisters are standing there.1329.5476
1184 1330.1052The school down here now, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, they fight when they get out.1332.9589
1185DTA_int_021333.2486Oh really?1333.5808
1186DTA_se2_ag3_f_031333.6335Yeah. They fight every day.1335.3018
1188 1335.5037It's, uh,1336.2325 
1190 1337.0140uh,1337.4179 
1192 1337.6506I mean, when we moved out here ten years ago,1339.9291 
1194 1340.2497the- the kids weren't like that.1341.5652 
1196 1342.1710They di- they'd get out and they'd come home. Now, they on your grass and1345.7579 
1198 1346.4632they fight, and the principal has to ride around and make sure that they're going home or stop the fights or whatnot, you know.1352.3155 
1199DTA_int_021352.5087[Mm-hm.]1352.7925
1200DTA_se2_ag3_f_031352.6037[And] if you tell them to, uh,1354.1754
1201 1354.8296you know, move on, and go on, I mean, they- uh, they'll cuss you out.1357.7404
1202DTA_int_021358.8671What- uh,1359.5290
1204 1359.8439what do they fight about?1360.6847 
1205DTA_se2_ag3_f_031361.7076I don't know. They just, uh,1363.7447
1207 1364.2189I- I don't know whether1365.4467 
1209 1365.7584it's just that1366.4871 
1211 1367.8833they just got it in them.1368.9325 
1213 1369.1301Every day, they- they fight,1370.3682 
1215 1370.8232if it's lunchtime, they come home, they're fighting,1373.1150 
1217 1373.4794and after school is out for good that day, they are still fighting. It's-1377.3601 
1219 1377.6618and they don't fight- uh, they'll wait til they get about1379.8437 
1221 1380.2125a block1380.7789 
1223 1380.9896down the street there and they'll start doing1382.7398 
1225 1383.2008continue on up here, you know.1384.5969 
1227 1385.1357The people are chasing them away, then they'll move on down here, and start fighting and.1389.0076 
1229 1390.1754Uh, I don't mess with 'em.1391.2862 
1231 1391.6769Cause they-1392.2213 
1233 1392.7218uh, my kids1393.5077 
1235 1394.0608those there, they're sort of rough.1395.7452 
1237 1396.3993And, uh, who knows. They might be carrying knives or sticks, which some of 'em do have a stick. One boy came down the street and his head was bleeding like,1402.2713 
1239 1403.2225uh,1403.7230 
1241 1404.0040I don't what, but it was just streaming down his head where1406.5591 
1243 1406.7263a boy took and knocked him in the head.1408.4952 
1244DTA_int_021409.5580Are there any rules for a fair fight or a1411.8303
1246 1412.4011dirty fight?1412.9714 
1247DTA_se2_ag3_f_031413.5908I-1413.9644
1249 1414.1795anything goes I think with those kids up there.1416.4123 
1250DTA_int_021416.6450[Hm.]1416.8074
1251DTA_se2_ag3_f_031416.6713[Anything] goes with 'em, you know.1418.3747
1252 1419.1694That's why I prefer, uh,1420.6182
1254 1422.3640uh,1422.7986 
1256 1423.6942It- unless it's a- a good1425.1738 
1258 1425.6391public school,1426.7499 
1260 1427.0001[I would] prefer my children going to a Catholic school.1429.5713 
1261DTA_int_021427.0001[Mm-hm.]1427.2225
1262DTA_se2_ag3_f_031430.6338I mean, we are Catholic, and that's where I sent 'em.1432.6489
1263DTA_int_021432.8026Mm-hm.1433.0572
1264DTA_se2_ag3_f_031433.0572Uh.1433.3601
1265 1433.7142/RD-SCHOOL-2/.1434.5923
1266DTA_int_021434.7152Mm-hm.1434.9698
1267DTA_se2_ag3_f_031435.5450And, uh,1436.2913
1269 1436.8664I mean, the sisters, they don't put up with that, you know.1439.0118 
1270DTA_int_021440.2718What uh, in one of these fights, um,1442.0279
1272 1442.6777how do you know when it's over? What would a1443.9465 
1274 1444.1089kid say if he wanted to quit or?1445.5160 
1275DTA_se2_ag3_f_031446.4291Most of the time, it isn't over unless somebody breaks it up.1449.0837
1277 1449.3559[Some adult]1450.0496 
1278DTA_int_021449.3993[Right.]1449.6978
1279DTA_se2_ag3_f_031450.1901you know, the principal. They see the principal coming then they all scatter, you [know, they] run.1454.0125
1280DTA_int_021453.2969[Mm-hm.]1453.5603
1281DTA_se2_ag3_f_031454.5481Take off.1455.2945
1283 1455.7423Uh, because the block club is1457.3447 
1285 1457.4896you know,1457.8891 
1287 1458.7760uh, complains so much about it.1460.8291 
1289 1461.3472That now, the principal1462.5282 
1291 1462.8003<ts> he rides up and down1464.0560 
1292DTA_int_021464.3150Mm-hm.1464.5345
1293DTA_se2_ag3_f_031464.5345make sure that there aren't any fights.1466.2672
1294DTA_int_021468.2384Did you ever seen anyone get beat up-1469.3535
1296 1469.5994beat up real bad?1470.2755 
1297DTA_se2_ag3_f_031471.1009N- No. I haven't.1473.0750
1299 1475.0769Well, no. I take that back. I saw, when I was a-1477.8077 
1301 1479.2725a g-1479.5184 
1303 1479.6501a little girl,1480.4052 
1305 1481.1955I think I was about1482.1852 
1307 1482.4418eleven.1483.2671 
1309 1484.0481And I saw a man beat a woman1485.5793 
1311 1486.0512to death.1486.5408 
1312DTA_int_021487.1071Really?1487.4144
1313DTA_se2_ag3_f_031488.2047She didn't die right then, but she died later.1490.2842
1315 1490.8242Uh,1491.3817 
1317 1491.8156when I was going to summer school,1493.3881 
1319 1493.9676and, uh,1494.8062 
1321 1495.8836was on the w- on my way to- I was going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/.1498.8569 
1323 1499.0676/RD-SCHOOL-6/.1500.3452 
1325 1500.7842And I was on my way to, uh,1502.4598 
1327 1502.9471school.1503.5573 
1329 1503.8515And w- a- I seen all the kids running and they were hollering, it's a fight up there, you know, man beating a woman.1508.4993 
1331 1509.2149So, I run, and, um,1511.0544 
1333 1511.5242The lady had run out the house they said. When I got there, he had her1514.9376 
1335 1515.3953down on the street1517.0153 
1337 1517.1865and he was beating her head up on the curb.1519.1183 
1339 1519.6901And blood was coming out.1521.0862 
1341 1521.7316And everybody was standing around, not doing a thing, just watching, you know, men were just standing around, they just looking.1527.1916 
1343 1527.6262And then finally, the policemen came1529.4772 
1345 1529.7670<ts> and uh, got him.1531.0533 
1347 1531.7646And they carried her off to the ambulance and I heard1533.8133 
1349 1534.2216you know, uh, later on that day that she had died.1536.7241 
1351 1537.3738And when they put him in the car, well1539.2265 
1353 1539.5295uh, he- he was looking like a wild man. I remember that.1542.8470 
1355 1543.5011Cause I was standing by the police car, and the policemen had took out their clubs and they were beating him with it.1548.6055 
1357 1549.1763Cause he was like a maniac, you know.1550.8885 
1359 1551.6436And then I saw, uh,1553.0162 
1361 1554.5967uh,1555.2816 
1363 1555.7865girl-1556.3441 
1365 1556.5259two girls fight one time.1558.2161 
1367 1558.7288<ts> And, well it wasn't a-1559.9563 
1369 1560.3031a bloody fight.1561.4885 
1371 1562.0768But, I mean I saw the girl, she got whipped.1564.0773 
1373 1564.4197Uh.1564.9246 
1375 1565.4822They girl tore off1566.3690 
1377 1566.6784all her clothes down, she had on a dress1568.9270 
1378DTA_int_021568.9665Mm-hm.1569.1992
1379DTA_se2_ag3_f_031569.5856And the girl1570.1607
1381 1570.5558tore off all her clothes down to her slip and her mother was standing out there with her and she told her, you go back in the house and get some more clothes on and come back out.1577.1441 
1383 1577.5041This girl had pulled her hair out and1579.4710 
1385 1579.8266they had fought in the alley.1580.8568 
1387 1581.4890And the- the alley was loaded with this here girl's uh, hair, which she had just pulled it out by handful.1586.7337 
1389 1586.8786And this other girl, she came prepared. She had on slacks and everything.1589.8102 
1390DTA_int_021590.3233Hm.1590.5340
1391DTA_se2_ag3_f_031590.9687And she- she welt the daylights out of her.1592.9340
1392DTA_int_021593.2194Hm.1593.3774
1394 1593.6891And then her mother1594.1721 
1396 1594.4750had her come back for more?1595.4891 
1397DTA_se2_ag3_f_031595.4891Yeah, told her to come- go get some clothes and come back out and fi- and fight and uh,1600.0052
1398 1600.2818she went in, but she came back out.1601.9940
1400 1602.5604This other girl, some other women around told her, you know,1605.3072 
1402 1605.7418that- you know, not- it wasn't lady like.1607.5287 
1404 1607.9106So, the girl left.1608.8896 
1406 1609.1838You know, of course she came on back out, but she came back out dressed again in1612.3740 
1408 1612.6155slacks [herself.]1613.6296 
1409DTA_int_021613.3159[Mm-hm.]1613.5374
1410DTA_se2_ag3_f_031614.6306After she done got all welt upside the head.1616.8638
1411DTA_int_021618.5496Have you ever been in a fight?1619.4628
1412DTA_se2_ag3_f_031620.1301Mm-mm.1621.0082
1414 1622.1525No, I always ran.1623.2808 
1415DTA_int_021623.6364Mm-hm.1623.8735
1416DTA_se2_ag3_f_031624.3652I- well it wasn't really girls.1625.9984
1418 1627.1779I wore three braids and my hair was1629.5003 
1420 1629.7023down here1630.4047 
1422 1630.5584and the boys used to pull it.1631.8755 
1423DTA_int_021630.5584[Mm-hm.]1630.8002
1424 1631.9549Mm-hm.1632.2007
1425DTA_se2_ag3_f_031632.7759And, uh,1633.5310
1427 1635.3661uh,1636.0642 
1429 1636.8065I don't know, for some reason, they didn't like me.1639.1202 
1431 1640.5339Uh. They thought I h-1641.9328 
1433 1642.3806thought I was1643.1358 
1435 1644.0753important or I thought I was smart, or better than them, I don't know why.1647.8520 
1437 1648.3920But, uh,1649.2437 
1439 1650.2296I never did have too many friends1652.5233 
1441 1652.8613when I was1653.6268 
1443 1653.7981younger, and I don't have too many now.1655.3259 
1445 1656.0591Uh.1656.7308 
1447 1657.1786I sort of-1657.9908 
1449 1658.2323I don't know, I- I don't like, uh, rowdiness.1660.4478 
1450DTA_int_021660.4478Mm-hm.1660.7025
1451DTA_se2_ag3_f_031660.9264And, uh,1661.6508
1453 1662.6210the school I went to1663.9058 
1455 1664.2439well, the kids were sort of rough.1665.8156 
1457 1666.5268And, I mean I would1667.4093 
1459 1667.9888do my work, and, cause I was a teacher's pet, that's what they said.1670.9815 
1460DTA_int_021670.9815Mm-hm.1671.2581
1461DTA_se2_ag3_f_031671.8683And, uh,1672.6322
1463 1673.9756after, they would sit there and pull on my hair, you know, and-1676.5776 
1465 1677.1351then when1677.6181 
1467 1677.8420they1678.1625 
1469 1678.6103I wouldn't talk to them, they say, okay, well I get you out after school. When school1681.9644 
1471 1682.5907bell rung, I'd1683.7849 
1473 1684.2064make it home, you know.1685.2469 
1475 1686.2566And then, uh,1687.2488 
1477 1687.5035we had a lady principal, and they had, at that time, the rubber hose, you know.1691.2908 
1478DTA_int_021691.3434Mm-hm.1691.5805
1479DTA_se2_ag3_f_031691.8750And my mother would go up there and1693.6659
1481 1694.4502uh, and tell the1695.3459 
1483 1695.7454uh, principal at1696.7755 
1485 1696.9203we-1697.3092 
1487 1697.7018think her name was /RD-NAME-2/. Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/.1700.5793 
1489 1701.2871And, uh.1702.1125 
1491 1702.3759she would line 'em up and you know, welt 'em all on their bottoms with this here rubber hose.1706.7867 
1493 1707.7701And eventually, they stopped bothering me.1709.8467 
1495 1710.3352It was only one girl that was gonna1712.0562 
1497 1712.3811fight me.1713.1055 
1499 1713.3382But, I happened to be a,1714.4255 
1501 1715.1894um,1716.0279 
1503 1717.2067<ts>1717.2977 
1505 1717.6084uh,1718.2187 
1507 1719.3953service girl.1720.2367 
1508DTA_int_021720.3596Mm-hm.1720.5616
1509DTA_se2_ag3_f_031721.1235And you know, the service girls get out about five, ten minutes before the classroom.1724.8377
1511 1725.2328And so, instead of me going on my post, I went on home, you know.1728.5460 
1513 1729.2353And, uh,1730.0606 
1515 1730.6533then, uh, my niece1732.1708 
1517 1732.8250she was more like a tomboy, she liked to fight1735.7071 
1519 1735.8692and she w- said she was gonna fight this girl for me.1738.4869 
1521 1739.0752And then1739.5450 
1523 1739.7338this girl came by the house and she told me1742.6928 
1525 1743.5123uh,1743.9030 
1527 1744.0918that she wasn't gonna fight, but she'd be my body guard. So, she and I became sort of like good friends, you know.1748.7148 
1529 1749.4699But, I never did um1750.8952 
1531 1751.2947I never did go in for fighting.1752.9235 
1533 1754.4031I wrestled with my niece once.1756.2850 
1535 1757.4589You know, I guess we called it a fight, we were sort of angry at each other.1760.6972 
1537 1761.2899But,1761.5621 
1539 1761.9908it was more or less a-1763.5494 
1541 1765.2792I think I was1765.7884 
1543 1766.1177ten and she was nine.1767.6850 
1545 1769.1367And that was about, that's the only-1770.5152 
1547 1770.9411only uh,1771.7577 
1549 1771.9948fight I would say I wa-1772.8904 
1551 1773.0660I ever had.1773.8826 
1553 1774.9391Now, I wrestle with my son over there.1776.5504 
1554DTA_int_021776.5504<laugh>1777.3626
1555DTA_se2_ag3_f_031777.8982He likes to1778.7982
1557 1779.2197cause he's almost as tall as I am, and1781.3562 
1559 1782.5328someday, he'll-1783.3055 
1561 1783.4504I've made him mad, you know.1785.1406 
1563 1785.3675<ts>1785.4189 
1565 1785.5006And a couple of days later, he says- um,1787.3562 
1567 1787.8040he's like come one ma, I wanna wrestle with you, I say, okay.1790.1792 
1569 1790.8202So, this is his way of saying, well now I- I can get the best of [you,] you know.1794.7260 
1570DTA_int_021794.0552[Hm.]1794.2791
1571DTA_se2_ag3_f_031795.1518As I take and show him, you know.1796.7894
1573 1797.5591Like I show him who's still boss, play or no play, you [know.]1800.6733 
1574DTA_int_021800.4231[Mm-hm.]1800.6733
1575DTA_se2_ag3_f_031802.3197But.1802.6138
1576DTA_int_021803.2328When- when the kids fight, do they generally fight one by one, or do they fight in gangs?1806.4845
1577DTA_se2_ag3_f_031807.2792No, it's usually, the kids that come down here, they're only1809.7553
1579 1810.0933the- they'll only be two of them fighting.1811.8699 
1580DTA_int_021811.9127Mm-hm.1812.2035
1581DTA_se2_ag3_f_031812.2035You know.1812.6327
1582 1813.1914Just the two of 'em, and it be about fifty kids standing around watching it, edging it on, you know.1818.4406
1583DTA_int_021818.5021Mm-hm.1818.7435
1584DTA_se2_ag3_f_031819.4855And, uh,1820.1792
1586 1820.9826I've never seen like a1822.3201 
1588 1822.6757gang fight.1823.6943 
1590 1824.6557I know my husband, uh,1826.1660 
1592 1826.4953he said he was chased by1828.0011 
1594 1828.8382a1829.2640 
1596 1829.8542gang once1830.7307 
1598 1831.0029they called themselves The Shakers.1832.9255 
1599DTA_int_021833.0089Mm.1833.2592
1600DTA_se2_ag3_f_031833.9660And, uh,1834.7591
1602 1835.1411they carried knives and whatnot, and he said he was in a car,1838.2011 
1604 1839.0836and they were in a car, and they drove and,1841.6855 
1606 1842.5109uh,1843.1782 
1608 1844.1353you know,1844.5300 
1610 1845.0269s- edged him over to the curb and1846.7586 
1612 1847.2723had their car in front1848.8732 
1614 1849.3778of his.1850.0103 
1616 1850.4932He said m-1851.0201 
1618 1851.1649it was only1851.8454 
1620 1852.0210he and his brother and another boy in the car.1854.3654 
1622 1855.0064And so, these here boys got out the car, there was about six of 'em, and some of 'em had their knives in their hand. And he says he waited for 'em to start waking back towards the car.1863.0605 
1624 1863.6879And he- then he said, when they started walking, he just stepped on the gas and headed their way, you know.1867.7083 
1625DTA_int_021867.7083Mm-hm.1867.9234
1626DTA_se2_ag3_f_031868.0376He said they all w- all which a-way, you know.1870.0966
1628 1870.8985But, um,1871.6185 
1630 1871.9829I don't think he w- he's never1873.4273 
1632 1873.9805uh,1874.3712 
1634 1875.7674been in a fight1876.6502 
1636 1876.8653except one time I think.1878.1996 
1638 1878.7029He said he was in a fight1879.8137 
1640 1880.2615and he's the kind that1881.3634 
1642 1881.5698doesn't like to get mad.1882.7965 
1644 1883.3288And, you know, they1884.2244 
1646 1884.7079build this all up in him and then1886.4590 
1648 1887.5171if they do get on you,1888.8810 
1650 1889.2410they start back1890.1937 
1652 1890.5449from where they1891.2781 
1654 1891.4668got mad at you the first time, you know, and welt it all out him.1894.3469 
1656 1895.4780But he said that- that one time he-1897.0849 
1658 1897.2561he beat the boy real bad.1898.7708 
1660 1899.1132And that was the only time he ever said he was in a fight.1901.2893 
1662 1902.6502But, he doesn't like to argue and1904.5644 
1664 1905.5391uh, he doesn't care for a-1907.1400 
1666 1907.3463a lot of violence.1908.8390 
1667DTA_int_021912.2152Did you ever have a-1912.7932
1669 1913.3551ever had a teacher who hollered a lot?1914.7205 
1670DTA_se2_ag3_f_031915.5645<ts> Hollered a lot?1916.5776
1672 1918.1697No, I don't think I ever did.1920.3286 
1674 1920.7949Um.1921.3871 
1676 1923.3524I can't, uh,1924.4108 
1678 1924.6460remember1925.3341 
1680 1926.0102any teacher1926.8495 
1682 1927.3811I had that, uh,1928.5935 
1684 1928.8628hollered.1929.6648 
1685DTA_int_021929.6834Did you ever get yelled at?1930.3782
1686DTA_se2_ag3_f_031931.4040No.1932.1921
1688 1934.0899Never did.1934.6576 
1689DTA_int_021935.2405Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had?1936.8072
1690DTA_se2_ag3_f_031938.1734Uh, I think the best teacher I ever had was when I was in grade school and she was a social studies teacher. Name was /RD-NAME-3/.1946.3090
1692 1947.2125And, um,1948.0378 
1694 1949.5346uh,1950.0242 
1696 1950.6304she was-1951.4231 
1698 1952.4443I mean, she was uh, she was a real good teacher.1954.8678 
1700 1955.5793Uh. She didn't just say, well-1957.1598 
1702 1957.7122say, well now, uh,1958.6914 
1704 1959.0446this is, you know, uh,1960.0521 
1706 1960.8725read the book and give you a test and that was it. I mean, she1963.6935 
1708 1964.3445did more, you know,1965.3897 
1710 1965.8606outside for1966.9144 
1712 1967.2781the students.1968.5604 
1714 1969.2506Uh,1969.7262 
1716 1969.9313she had put on different1971.4127 
1718 1971.6147affairs at the schools, which we hadn't1973.5766 
1720 1973.7211been having before she came there.1975.5397 
1722 1976.2484And, uh,1977.1146 
1724 1978.2710uh,1978.7419 
1726 1979.3994like,1979.8864 
1728 1980.0130I remember. I don't know whether you remember this program or not, I forget what it was1983.3589 
1730 1983.5454you see,1983.9837 
1732 1984.2682um,1984.6179 
1734 1984.8965<ts>1984.9431 
1736 1985.0550it was on the r-1985.7078 
1738 1985.9876radio.1986.6917 
1740 1987.4051And they used to give away Eversharp pen and pencil sets.1990.7473 
1742 1991.5913Cause I was on it once.1992.8223 
1744 1993.2140And, um,1993.9740 
1746 1994.4450they asked you different questions from,1996.3101 
1748 1997.0457uh,1997.4840 
1750 1998.2767g- uh, I think1999.4145 
1752 1999.9340about history.2001.0185 
1754 2002.1236And, um,2002.8686 
1756 2004.1976she- she got our school to you know, get on this program.2007.1667 
1758 2008.6262And then2009.0924 
1760 2009.5820I liked her, cause- uh,2011.4016 
1762 2012.3693and which my mother wouldn't let me do. She wanted to take me to Brazil.2015.1624 
1763DTA_int_022015.4235Mm-hm.2015.6660
1764DTA_se2_ag3_f_032016.5275And, uh,2017.2735
1766 2018.0522she told my mother, and my mother told her, I didn't have you know, uh,2021.1251 
1768 2021.4748any summer clothes, not that many. She says not to worry about it, she would buy 'em all.2025.4791 
1770 2025.8941[You know] she would pay my2027.0318 
1771DTA_int_022025.9008[Hm.]2026.0638
1772DTA_se2_ag3_f_032027.4375way to Brazil.2028.3922
1774 2028.6580And my mother said, okay, she can go.2030.1641 
1776 2030.6911Then she says, well how are you going? And when she says, on a boat, you know, my mother said, oh no, /RD-NAME-2/ can't go, you know (laughing). <laugh>2036.5748 
1778 2037.6053There I was, we- you know, my one and only chance to2040.4347 
1780 2041.3860go out of the country.2042.3547 
1781DTA_int_022042.8026Mm-hm.2043.1187
1782DTA_se2_ag3_f_032043.3689You know.2043.7728
1784 2043.9045And my mother, after she found out it was on a boat, she says, nope.2047.3094 
1785DTA_int_022047.3729Hm.2047.5973
1786DTA_se2_ag3_f_032047.5929She can't go.2048.2904
1787 2048.9709And she was willing to buy my clothes and pay my2051.4280
1789 2051.7924transportation.2052.6529 
1790DTA_int_022052.7486/inaudible/2053.4335
1791DTA_se2_ag3_f_032054.1851<ts>2054.2551
1793 2054.5348But I says, that's, uh,2056.0714 
1795 2058.3368uh, because my mother didn't know.2059.8251 
1797 2060.2773She thought I would drown.2061.8167 
1798DTA_int_022061.9441Yeah, scary /inaudible/2063.0160
1799DTA_se2_ag3_f_032063.0504Yeah.2063.4675
1800DTA_int_022064.6441Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand at all?2066.3607
1801DTA_se2_ag3_f_032067.6938Uh.2068.5324
1803 2071.0085Not- uh,2072.1412 
1805 2072.5670I never did have any I couldn't stand.2075.0372 
1807 2075.4368Uh.2075.9724 
1809 2077.2236I got along with mostly all the teachers. But there was one teacher at /RD-SCHOOL-3/2081.4391 
1811 2081.5421that uh,2082.0997 
1813 2082.4421I didn't have her, but um,2084.4441 
1815 2085.3861I thought she shoulda been kicked out.2086.9319 
1816DTA_int_022087.1038[Mm.]2087.3412
1817DTA_se2_ag3_f_032087.1997[Her] name was Ms. /RD-NAME-2/.2089.5836
1818 2090.5056I think that was her name and2091.7509
1820 2092.5894uh, she wore2093.5904 
1822 2093.9768a lot of makeup2095.5353 
1824 2095.7900and2096.3475 
1826 2096.9314her dresses would be tight and2098.8616 
1828 2099.6607the kids would say she would, uh,2101.5046 
1830 2101.9612sit there and2103.2065 
1832 2103.8255you know,2104.3655 
1834 2104.8230plop her feet up on the desk and the boys could see and.2107.9414 
1835DTA_int_022108.0973Mm-hm.2108.3431
1836DTA_se2_ag3_f_032108.6944Uh. She would come to school and you could-2110.1372
1838 2110.3128when she passed you down the hall, sometimes, you could smell whiskey,2112.8987 
1839DTA_int_022113.0831[Mm-hm.]2113.3773
1840DTA_se2_ag3_f_032113.2939[liquor] on her breath, you know.2114.7163
1841 2115.5972And, uh,2116.3348
1843 2117.1225I thought she shoulda been,2118.0602 
1845 2118.2885you know, kicked out.2119.1621 
1846DTA_int_022121.8650Would the kids ever play tricks on the teachers?2123.5246
1847DTA_se2_ag3_f_032124.7714Uh.2125.5573
1849 2126.2070Well,2126.8480 
1851 2127.1158I can't remember.2128.2909 
1853 2129.0680I know, um, they got away with, uh, some things, like we had a English teacher2134.2419 
1855 2135.3307and2135.8212 
1857 2136.7187I can't remember his name now.2138.1521 
1859 2138.5517And I thought he should never been a teacher either.2140.1102 
1861 2140.7161Uh.2141.2649 
1863 2141.4214He taught English.2142.5453 
1865 2142.7955And um,2143.5287 
1867 2144.7624eh-2145.1312 
1869 2145.9653when he would give us a test,2147.2780 
1871 2148.1046he- he drank too.2149.1863 
1873 2149.5902And uh,2150.2663 
1875 2151.0609he'd tell us, he said well, I'm going2152.4483 
1877 2153.4361out the room for a few minutes. I know no one won't cheat, you know.2156.1390 
1878DTA_int_022156.3365Mm-hm.2156.5429
1879DTA_se2_ag3_f_032156.7712And he would leave the room, and2158.1453
1881 2158.7205before we'd get our books on out,2160.2072 
1883 2160.3477get the answers or whatnot, you know, he'd come back2162.6878 
1885 2163.2717uh, give me your word of honor, all those who didn't cheat, and everybody raised their hand, you know, nobody, I knew this class wouldn't cheat.I knew I could trust this class, you know.2171.2166 
1887 2172.0263And uh,2172.9185 
1889 2174.2619we'd get you know, B's, C, I don't think anybody ever flunked his class, then we had another teacher that2179.0765 
1891 2179.5375was too old to be a teacher.2181.1839 
1893 2181.7809And that was in physics two.2183.2517 
1895 2183.8604<ts> And uh.2184.8702 
1897 2186.1477Like they had these little cards that you fill out and they put your name, and they2189.3906 
1899 2189.6716you know, every day, they take the2191.0897 
1901 2191.6429<ts>2191.7131 
1903 2191.8229roll to see who's there and who's not.2193.6931 
1905 2194.2068And-2194.4878 
1907 2194.7336when you have a test, well then they would give that-2196.5892 
1909 2197.2082that grade on this card- mark it on this card.2199.4692 
1911 2200.2200And they-2200.6678 
1913 2200.8697he had a boy2201.7814 
1915 2202.2248to do this.2203.0765 
1917 2203.7219And say, if you flunked the test, you know, you could2205.9478 
1919 2206.3561go up there and tell the boy, I'll give you a dollar to change it to a eighty or a seventy, you know.2210.5209 
1921 2211.1619And he would do it.2212.0312 
1923 2212.3209And the teacher, he2213.1770 
1925 2213.7858he wouldn't even know it, you know. And you- (laughing)2215.6165 
1927 2215.9571I know I didn't2216.6307 
1929 2216.8063uh, pass uh,2217.9258 
1931 2218.0224physics two, but I got a C.2219.5189 
1933 2219.6989I didn't make it too big, you know.2221.1784 
1934DTA_int_022221.2487Mm-hm.2221.4814
1935DTA_se2_ag3_f_032221.7536But I didn't uh,2222.7194
1937 2223.6922uh, physics one was, uh,2225.3342 
1939 2225.8786interesting cause we had a good teacher, but uh,2228.8907 
1941 2229.0557this here teacher, I mean he-2230.4298 
1943 2230.8425he didn't know what he was doing.2232.1376 
1944DTA_int_022232.3966Mm-hm.2232.6381
1945DTA_se2_ag3_f_032232.9103And so2233.7137
1947 2233.9508all of us really should've failed.2235.3337 
1949 2236.1417But2236.3220 
1951 2236.6246I don't think any of us did.2237.8232 
1953 2238.4202A lot of 'em got A's, they should have been getting E's [and]2241.1642 
1954DTA_int_022240.9377[Mm.]2241.1642
1955DTA_se2_ag3_f_032241.8464I know I should have got a E, but I got a C, you [know.]2244.4806
1956DTA_int_022244.2084[Yeah.]2244.4806
1957DTA_se2_ag3_f_032245.9382So, uh.2246.7943
1958DTA_int_022246.9787Who was the smartest kid in your class?2248.3601
1959DTA_se2_ag3_f_032248.4611The smartest kid in our class?2249.9889
1961 2251.1874Uh,2252.1752 
1963 2252.5265there was a boy, what's his name? /RD-NAME-1/ um,2255.5367 
1965 2257.8987/RD-NAME-1/ somebody.2258.9304 
1967 2259.6592Can't remember his name.2260.7333 
1969 2261.3786He was, uh, I think in the top ten.2263.8723 
1970DTA_int_022264.0787Mm-hm.2264.3026
1971DTA_se2_ag3_f_032264.8250That was in high school.2265.9694
1973 2266.5824He was in the [top.]2267.3419 
1974DTA_int_022267.1794[What] did he do that was so great?2268.2199
1975DTA_se2_ag3_f_032269.1638Well, he was the all around student. He was- he played on the basketball team, he was the captain of the basketball team. He was the president of the graduating class.2278.7975
1977 2279.7414And uh,2280.7951 
1979 2282.2577uh, he was just a good student.2283.7129 
1981 2284.0623You could2284.3607 
1983 2284.5939tell he was gonna, you know,2285.9135 
1985 2286.4450go places.2287.2156 
1986DTA_int_022288.0759Who's the dumbest kid?2288.7800
1987DTA_se2_ag3_f_032289.4561Uh, I think there was several of them.2291.9088
1989 2292.8554Uh.2293.4557 
1991 2293.6609/RD-NAME-4/, and2295.2043 
1993 2295.9037there was a girl, /RD-NAME-4/,2297.8948 
1994DTA_int_022298.2632[What did] they do that was so dumb?2299.4802
1995DTA_se2_ag3_f_032298.3005[Mm.]2298.5663
1996 2300.0339Oh, they just didn't, um,2301.2882
1998 2301.7266I mean,2302.0623 
2000 2302.4120like we had uh,2303.6696 
2002 2304.7621um,2305.3691 
2004 2305.8505general math,2306.7691 
2005DTA_int_022307.0275[Mm-hm.]2307.2646
2006DTA_se2_ag3_f_032307.0675[you know,] that's just2308.2094
2007 2308.4289adding,2309.1313
2009 2309.4302subtracting, dividing, and multiplying.2311.4362 
2011 2312.1299And, I mean, she couldn't even do this. We went to summer school,2314.4805 
2012DTA_int_022314.5859[Mm-hm.]2314.8273
2013DTA_se2_ag3_f_032314.6429[and] she sat behind me, and uh,2316.9270
2014 2317.8226she said, /RD-NAME-2/, lean over a little bit, let me get this, let me see. If you have a test, you know, and [I'd lean over] let her see it. And when2323.2337
2015DTA_int_022321.8200[Mm-hm.]2322.1364
2016DTA_se2_ag3_f_032323.3829we graduated, on the back of her picture2325.4479
2018 2326.0406she wrote, she said she didn't know2327.7250 
2020 2328.4713how she would have passed2329.6742 
2022 2329.9245you know, math if it hadn't been for me, you know.2332.1065 
2024 2333.0261So.2333.5832 
2025DTA_int_022335.0101What time- uh,2335.7608
2027 2336.3535What time2336.8131 
2029 2337.0589do the kids get out of school?2338.0598 
2030DTA_se2_ag3_f_032338.6964Uh. They get out of school around three fifteen.2341.6467
2032 2342.4501Uh.2342.9111 
2034 2344.5930Yeah.2344.8744 
2036 2345.0193/RD-SCHOOL-2/ gets out at three ten, and /RD-SCHOOL-2/ gets out at three fifteen.2348.6848 
2037DTA_int_022349.8125What time does school start?2350.6335
2038DTA_se2_ag3_f_032351.7135Uh. His school starts at eight cause he has to go to [mass.]2354.3857
2039DTA_int_022354.2573[Uh-huh.]2354.5295
2040DTA_se2_ag3_f_032355.1057And the school really starts at,2356.9979
2042 2357.7926uh,2358.4013 
2044 2359.4593I believe it's, uh,2360.7369 
2046 2361.6759eight forty-five,2362.7954 
2047DTA_int_022363.1025Mm-hm.2363.3791
2048DTA_se2_ag3_f_032363.5933when it- when school starts.2365.3108
2049DTA_int_022365.3547What time do kids have to get up to go to school?2366.9150
2050DTA_se2_ag3_f_032367.6357We get up around seven.2368.9132
2051DTA_int_022370.9497Is there a noon, uh, recess?2372.5225
2052DTA_se2_ag3_f_032373.1976Yeah.2373.6244
2054 2373.7474Uh-huh. But they stay for lunch.2375.4508 
2055DTA_int_022375.4903What time is this?2376.3174
2056DTA_se2_ag3_f_032376.9836Uh. Ten minutes to twelve.2378.6163
2057DTA_int_022378.8210Mm-hm.2379.0712
2058DTA_se2_ag3_f_032379.1167They, uh,2379.6655
2059DTA_int_022380.2363Til twelve-thirty?2380.9124
2060DTA_se2_ag3_f_032381.3953uh, no, til quarter to one.2383.0917
2061DTA_int_022383.3248Mm-hm.2383.5926
2062DTA_se2_ag3_f_032384.1366They have, uh, lunch.2385.4186
2064 2386.3102But this year, I let 'em stay for lunch, they2388.4731 
2066 2389.7547wanted to.2390.5098 
2068 2391.8752[And so it gives me a break.]2393.2058 
2069DTA_int_022391.8752[What time would your school used to get out?]2393.1619
2070DTA_se2_ag3_f_032393.4776My school?2394.2415
2072 2395.1284Uh. Three thirty, they used to get out, when I was going. Three thirty, and2398.9273 
2074 2399.1488it'd start2399.8094 
2076 2400.2090twenty minutes to nine and2401.9782 
2078 2402.1890you would have lunch time.2403.4034 
2080 2404.1602Eh- which I think was about twenty-five minutes after eleven.2406.9367 
2082 2407.8178And, uh,2408.7661 
2084 2409.3100then you had to be back2410.4436 
2086 2410.6367I think at2411.5408 
2088 2412.5023twelve thirty or2413.8270 
2090 2414.0377twelve twenty-five.2415.3263 
2092 2415.8048And then we would get out at three thirty, but of course, when you get to high school, you know.2419.1255 
2094 2419.6856So-2419.9904 
2096 2420.2670some children got out2421.7553 
2098 2422.2162early, and some got out at four.2424.4087 
2100 2425.4195And I got out2426.2448 
2102 2426.4687I remember, I used to get out one time at one o'clock.2429.1891 
2104 2429.6890Or2430.0490 
2106 2430.6373one forty-five.2431.8391 
2108 2432.3967And I thought that was real swinging, you know.2434.0562 
2109DTA_int_022434.1265[Mm.]2434.4733
2110DTA_se2_ag3_f_032434.3416[<laugh>]2435.0309
2111DTA_int_022436.4167Um.2436.7152
2113 2437.0884Excuse me, could you put this2438.5196 
2115 2438.6513on the chair so it won't make any noise? [Your- right there.]2441.1818 
2116DTA_se2_ag3_f_032440.5145[Oh this here? Oh] yeah, [it's making noi-]2442.1147
2117DTA_int_022441.7481[Oh that's okay.] I-2442.5867
2118 2442.8325Yeah. That's okay.2443.4120
2119DTA_se2_ag3_f_032443.5481Yeah.2444.0047
2120DTA_int_022444.2813Um.2444.5403
2122 2445.5338Was there a group of people that you als-2446.9650 
2124 2447.2707that you always used to hang out with?2448.5819 
2125DTA_se2_ag3_f_032449.4292Yeah, we had a little,2450.5136
2127 2450.7814uh,2451.0009 
2129 2451.2926group.2451.6287 
2131 2451.7297I belong to the Delsprites Club.2453.8661 
2133 2454.3271And it was the girls, uh2455.4773 
2135 2456.3481club, uh.2457.2012 
2137 2458.4129[It was connec-]2459.1198 
2138DTA_int_022458.4129[Were- were they] all about the same2459.9320
2139 2460.7310age?2461.1612
2140DTA_se2_ag3_f_032461.5724Yeah. it was about the same age, uh.2464.5359
2142 2465.1198I guess maybe three years difference.2467.7320 
2144 2468.2689Or-2468.6436 
2146 2469.1529yeah, it was about three years difference, or four years difference in some of our ages.2472.8276 
2148 2473.6819Uh. It was, um,2474.9071 
2150 2475.0300connected with the s-2476.4030 
2152 2476.8081what2477.1900 
2154 2477.3166the Deltas.2478.5510 
2156 2479.6558You know, the2480.1168 
2158 2480.8500college group.2481.8554 
2159DTA_int_022482.0529Mm-hm.2482.3207
2160DTA_se2_ag3_f_032482.6763And it was sort of like, you know, getting girls, um,2485.1952
2162 2486.3934uh,2486.7534 
2164 2488.7773the material for college, I guess.2491.0164 
2165DTA_int_022491.0164Mm-hm.2491.2878
2166DTA_se2_ag3_f_032491.3369To join the Deltas,2492.5786
2168 2492.7454and they c- we called ourselves the Delsprites and2495.2734 
2170 2496.0329you had to be- you were picked.2497.8110 
2171DTA_int_022498.0215Mm-hm.2498.2972
2172DTA_se2_ag3_f_032498.4022And.2498.9641
2174 2499.3988Uh.2500.0090 
2176 2500.2241Say2500.6412 
2178 2501.2207the- it was two groups, the Dels- Delsprites and the Coeds. And the Coeds, they were,2506.6500 
2180 2507.8178their parents were more, uh,2509.9471 
2182 2510.6118professionals, doctors, [lawyers.]2513.2767 
2183DTA_int_022513.0484[Mm-hm.]2513.4216
2184DTA_se2_ag3_f_032513.6367Uh. That group.2514.4753
2186 2515.1997And it was one or two that had connections that, you know, their2518.3021 
2188 2518.6401fathers worked in factories, but2520.5938 
2190 2521.1777they were-2521.9884 
2192 2522.4477they had that personality that they got in there anyway, [you know.]2525.4260 
2193DTA_int_022525.1582[Mm-hm.]2525.4260
2194DTA_se2_ag3_f_032525.6060And the Delsprites, well there was doctors, lawyers, but2528.4142
2196 2528.6692uh,2529.0860 
2198 2529.7489it was2530.1528 
2200 2530.6621the average2531.6402 
2202 2532.1987people, you know.2532.9933 
2203DTA_int_022532.9933Mm-hm.2533.2790
2204DTA_se2_ag3_f_032534.0119And uh.2534.6723
2205DTA_int_022536.0202Uh. Do you still have anything to do with these2537.5831
2206DTA_se2_ag3_f_032538.2164[Well, I have.] Yeah. Uh-huh.2539.8435
2207DTA_int_022538.3327[people?]2538.7323
2208DTA_se2_ag3_f_032540.1751Two of the girls that were in the2542.2693
2210 2542.8400uh, club with me, I still-2544.6840 
2212 2545.3118uh, they're2545.9136 
2214 2546.0936my friends now and2547.3298 
2216 2547.9708like I said, one of 'em's gone to California.2550.1352 
2218 2550.7586And the other one,2551.8917 
2220 2552.0190uh, /RD-NAME-2/, she's uh2553.7030 
2222 2554.0586taking up a2554.8839 
2224 2555.2483x-ray technician course.2556.9455 
2225DTA_int_022556.9148Mm-hm.2557.1694
2226DTA_se2_ag3_f_032557.7201And so, I don't get to see her cause she s- starts work at nine to five and then2562.6093
2228 2562.9913she has to go to school from seven to nine.2565.1604 
2229DTA_int_022565.2131Mm-hm.2565.4502
2230DTA_se2_ag3_f_032565.5468And this here's Monday through Friday.2567.2000
2231DTA_int_022569.0782Uh.2569.4843
2233 2569.6935Did any people in this group speak any other language besides English?2572.7096 
2234DTA_se2_ag3_f_032573.6228Uh. No. All of 'em spoke English.2576.1061
2235DTA_int_022578.0554Was there one person that stood out that everybody kind of listened to and looked up to as a leader?2581.6291
2236DTA_se2_ag3_f_032582.5160Um,2583.2476
2238 2583.6647yeah, I guess you would say2586.1320 
2240 2586.8916uh,2587.4930 
2242 2589.4320there was2590.2574 
2244 2590.7228one girl, name was /RD-NAME-4/.2593.0013 
2246 2594.1296And uh,2594.9403 
2248 2596.0423she was2597.0520 
2250 2598.0398mostly, you know,2598.9574 
2252 2599.3482she- and in fact, she was younger than the rest of us.2602.2003 
2254 2602.7842Yet, she was I think more mature,2604.8740 
2256 2605.2077you know,2605.5984 
2257DTA_int_022605.7828Uh-huh.2605.9847
2258DTA_se2_ag3_f_032606.1779than we were.2607.0413
2260 2607.4408/Ooh/2607.7086 
2262 2607.9237all,2608.3979 
2264 2609.6008sort of giddish and she always acted older.2612.1208 
2265DTA_int_022612.2394Mm-hm.2612.5599
2266DTA_se2_ag3_f_032612.6477You know.2613.0686
2267DTA_int_022614.6227Do you remember what you wanted to be when you finished school?2616.4579
2268DTA_se2_ag3_f_032617.3291I wanted to be a teacher.2618.8686
2269DTA_int_022619.1847Mm-hm.2619.3911
2270DTA_se2_ag3_f_032619.4657That's what I wanted to be. And then another time, I wanted to be a Spanish interpreter.2623.2984
2271DTA_int_022623.6145Mm-hm.2623.8808
2272DTA_se2_ag3_f_032624.4340Those, uh,2625.3033
2274 2625.4174well before I went- before I finished high school, when I was entering high school, I wanted to be a Spanish interpreter.2630.7940 
2276 2631.3472And when I graduated from, uh,2632.9760 
2278 2633.6433high school, I wanted to be a teacher.2635.3160 
2279DTA_int_022635.4915Mm-hm.2635.7803
2280DTA_se2_ag3_f_032636.3462But I didn't make it.2637.3911
2281DTA_int_022637.9135You speak Spanish?2638.6643
2282DTA_se2_ag3_f_032639.7618I used to a little bit.2641.5355
2284 2641.9862I can2642.5877 
2286 2643.1979say like, uh, how are you,2645.1253 
2287DTA_int_022645.2350Mm-hm.2645.4984
2288DTA_se2_ag3_f_032645.9726and, uh.2646.6706
2289DTA_int_022646.9253How about your husband, does he speak Spanish?2648.4964
2290DTA_se2_ag3_f_032648.7818<ts> No, he doesn't speak any.2650.1263
2291DTA_int_022650.3897Where does the name /RD-NAME-4/ come from2651.8210
2292DTA_se2_ag3_f_032652.0712His father is Spanish.2653.6473
2293DTA_int_022653.7073I see.2654.1199
2294DTA_se2_ag3_f_032654.7214And-2654.9804
2295DTA_int_022654.7697From what? From Spain or?2655.9858
2296DTA_se2_ag3_f_032656.2361No, no, uh, his father was, I guess, S- I don't know where his father was born.2661.0974
2298 2662.2667Because their- his mother and father are separated.2664.7193 
2299DTA_int_022664.7105[Mm-hm.]2664.9848
2300DTA_se2_ag3_f_032664.8730[But] his father lives here in Dearborn.2666.8398
2301 2668.0334Uh,2668.5866
2303 2670.3646I don't know where he was born [though.]2671.7944 
2304DTA_int_022671.6451[Uh-huh.]2671.8866
2305DTA_se2_ag3_f_032672.3827Detroit, I guess.2673.3222
2306DTA_int_022674.8456Um,2675.1575
2308 2676.2243what do you call this part of town?2677.3394 
2309DTA_se2_ag3_f_032678.1545Uh,2678.6199
2311 2678.8550this here part? I call it2680.0555 
2313 2681.0477uh, north.2681.9477 
2315 2684.4970I guess.2685.0370 
2317 2685.4014This here is north to me.2686.7009 
2319 2686.9380[North-]2687.3331 
2320DTA_int_022687.1415[Does it] have any2687.7341
2321 2687.9609boundaries or anything like that?2689.1111
2322DTA_se2_ag3_f_032690.0448Uh,2690.7077
2324 2691.1862well this here is known as- this area out here is known as2695.0833 
2326 2695.6540Martin-2696.5891 
2328 2699.3901uh, Martindale part.2701.1594 
2329DTA_int_022701.5047Mm-hm.2701.7199
2330DTA_se2_ag3_f_032703.5638Because when we have the block club,2705.6887
2332 2706.6546like, uh,2707.4521 
2334 2709.2609once a year or twice a year, they'll have, uh,2711.5111 
2336 2712.1442the Martindale- that means from s- from Inverness here,2715.3081 
2337DTA_int_022715.4046Uh-huh.2715.7690
2338DTA_se2_ag3_f_032715.8656to, uh,2716.6822
2340 2717.0290Livernois.2717.7536 
2341DTA_int_022717.9291Uh-huh.2718.2188
2342DTA_se2_ag3_f_032718.7149And from Puritan2719.9969
2344 2720.3130to Six Mile2721.4705 
2345DTA_int_022721.6637Mm-hm.2721.8481
2346DTA_se2_ag3_f_032721.9929at the bottom.2722.7217
2347DTA_int_022722.9105I see.2723.2881
2348DTA_se2_ag3_f_032723.8456/?/ that's called Martindale part.2725.9530
2349DTA_int_022727.6505Can you name some of the streets of the city here?2729.4988
2350DTA_se2_ag3_f_032730.5393<ts>2730.5964
2352 2730.7193Uh, in different sections?2732.1286 
2353DTA_int_022732.6495Lew- around where you've been.2733.8129
2354DTA_se2_ag3_f_032734.3529Well,2734.9369
2356 2735.7798uh, when I first came to Detroit, we lived on Ironwood and Tireman,2739.7634 
2358 2740.3693uh, for about three months til2742.0447 
2360 2742.4706the people got out of my mother's home.2744.1637 
2362 2744.6861And then I lived over on Eastern Place between Roosevelt and Chope.2748.6337 
2364 2749.4168And Grand River and2751.2668 
2366 2752.3369uh,2753.2149 
2368 2753.7769my brother lived on Wabash2755.8315 
2370 2756.1154and2756.5500 
2372 2756.7651I've been on2757.3622 
2374 2757.5774Forest and Gratiot and2759.7769 
2376 2760.7691uh,2761.5637 
2378 2763.9110my husband's2764.6793 
2380 2765.0305family lived on Tilman and Hudson.2767.4013 
2382 2768.7037And I have a girlfriend living on Greenlawn, and another one living on Indiana.2772.9184 
2384 2773.3311And2774.1110 
2386 2774.3086uh,2774.8573 
2388 2776.3018I've been, uh,2777.6803 
2390 2781.0330oh,2781.4852 
2392 2781.6344let's see.2782.0910 
2394 2782.9559[There's] /Westminister/.2784.4530 
2395DTA_int_022782.9647[/?/]2783.1842
2396 2786.0072What's this big street that Hudson is on?2787.5554
2398 2787.8863Hudsons is on?2788.5432 
2399DTA_se2_ag3_f_032788.8725Uh, Woodward.2789.5880
2400DTA_int_022789.5880/inaudible/2789.9515
2401DTA_se2_ag3_f_032790.0623Mm-hm.2790.4881
2402DTA_int_022790.7779What's that street down by Cobo Hall? Not Jefferson, but the corner of-2794.0120
2403DTA_se2_ag3_f_032794.5476On the corner?2795.3335
2404DTA_int_022795.4301Where2795.6759
2406 2796.0359Cobo Hall is.2796.6769 
2407DTA_se2_ag3_f_032797.1818Oh dear.2797.7218
2408DTA_int_022798.0276Fourth Street?2798.6598
2409DTA_se2_ag3_f_032799.0022Fort?2799.6081
2410DTA_int_022799.8232You know that one?2800.3137
2411DTA_se2_ag3_f_032801.1140I've been down there on Fourth, but I didn't know that's where it ran.2803.5773
2412DTA_int_022803.5456Uh.2803.7197
2413DTA_se2_ag3_f_032804.0291Uh-huh.2804.3612
2414DTA_int_022804.5939Um,2804.9144
2416 2805.6783what are these big roads, the big-2806.9355 
2417DTA_se2_ag3_f_032807.5705[Expressways?]2808.5715
2418DTA_int_022808.0667[Ex-]2808.3990
2420 2808.5414Expressway.2809.0237 
2421DTA_se2_ag3_f_032809.6735Well there's the Lodge expressway, and there's the Chrysler expressway, and there's, uh,2814.8964
2423 2816.2910uh,2817.1022 
2425 2817.4544let's see.2817.9856 
2427 2818.2096The Davison expressway, I think that was the first expressway in Detroit.2822.0232 
2429 2822.8749And, uh,2823.9154 
2431 2825.0525let's see,2825.6320 
2433 2827.2871I don't know, there's the Edsel Ford expressway.2829.9489 
2435 2831.4899And.2832.1177 
2436DTA_int_022832.7631Where- where were you born?2833.9045
2437DTA_se2_ag3_f_032834.4035Lafayette, Indiana.2835.5274
2438DTA_int_022835.5274Lafayette, Indiana.2836.2123
2439DTA_se2_ag3_f_032836.4757Mm-hm.2836.9060
2440DTA_int_022837.4504Where else have you lived here in Detroit?2838.6928
2441DTA_se2_ag3_f_032839.4216Um,2840.2147
2443 2841.0945Well I lived on Taylor and and Twelfth.2843.2704 
2445 2843.9377And, uh,2844.6665 
2447 2846.3991uh, Kentucky2847.7908 
2449 2848.4186Street.2849.0025 
2451 2849.6874And2850.3372 
2453 2850.6796Baylis here.2851.5577 
2455 2852.5176Those are about the only streets I've lived on.2854.3923 
2456DTA_int_022854.4318Where have you lived outside of Detroit?2855.6708
2457DTA_se2_ag3_f_032856.3101Outside of Detroit? Nowhere.2857.8247
2459 2858.0267Well, except on vacations. Well,2859.7872 
2461 2861.2179I've been to Chicago,2862.8554 
2463 2863.7082and I've been to San Antonio,2866.3292 
2465 2866.5883Texas. I've been to /??/, Texas.2868.9530 
2466DTA_int_022869.7549How long were you in Lafayette2871.0087
2468 2871.3047after you were born?2871.9369 
2469DTA_se2_ag3_f_032872.1546Til I was nine years old.2873.4804