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1 | DTA_int_01 | 0.2998 | Alright. | 0.5787 |
3 | | 0.6885 | Um. | 1.0443 |
5 | | 1.1511 | What kind of | 1.6454 |
7 | | 2.2769 | games do the kids in this neighborhood play | 4.4093 |
9 | | 4.5222 | when they get together | 5.5448 |
11 | | 5.9930 | do things together? | 6.7479 |
12 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 8.6214 | Uh. Usually, the girls, they're | 10.4145 |
14 | | 10.8714 | skipping rope, | 11.7257 |
16 | | 12.8653 | uh, | 13.3626 |
18 | | 13.6412 | occasionally they will | 14.7596 |
20 | | 15.4583 | get some chalk and make little | 17.0357 |
22 | | 18.2646 | markings on the sidewalk, or, I forget what the uh | 21.1877 |
24 | | 21.3555 | na- ga- name of the games i- | 22.8511 |
26 | | 23.3954 | are. | 23.7798 |
28 | | 24.7151 | And uh, | 25.5633 |
30 | | 25.6945 | they play | 26.3789 |
32 | | 27.8526 | a little | 28.3942 |
34 | | 29.3614 | handball between the sidewalks. | 31.3067 |
36 | | 32.5087 | And occasionally, I take the boys down to | 34.9511 |
38 | | 35.4667 | the um, | 36.0953 |
40 | | 36.4265 | <ts> | 36.5302 |
42 | | 36.6692 | field, at MacKay Field. | 37.9110 |
44 | | 38.7196 | And uh, we have some | 40.0066 |
46 | | 40.6900 | baseball | 41.3360 |
48 | | 41.9686 | and so forth. | 42.8412 |
50 | | 43.5838 | And that is just about the extent of it. Like, yesterday, we went out | 46.5622 |
52 | | 46.6781 | to Belle Isle and um, | 47.7734 |
54 | | 48.3165 | <ts> | 48.4629 |
56 | | 48.8267 | we had a | 49.3576 |
58 | | 49.5513 | little baseball game out there. | 50.9795 |
60 | | 51.1224 | Um, | 51.3055 |
62 | | 51.4768 | girls and the boys, so forth. | 53.1916 |
64 | | 54.4730 | And, | 54.8938 |
66 | | 55.8977 | that's just it. They'll have a little, | 57.3489 |
68 | | 58.4154 | like now, they're playing checkers on the porch, often. | 60.9608 |
69 | DTA_int_01 | 61.3113 | Oh. | 61.5309 |
70 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 61.9348 | Once in a while. | 62.6365 |
72 | | 63.4206 | And uh, | 64.1190 |
74 | | 65.5914 | well, that's about all I can think of right now. | 67.6899 |
75 | DTA_int_01 | 67.8917 | Uh-huh. | 68.1114 |
77 | | 68.5965 | When you were a kid, do you remember some of the games that you used to play? | 71.0520 |
78 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 71.3449 | Yeah. | 71.6049 |
80 | | 71.8459 | Mm. | 72.0198 |
82 | | 72.3188 | Yeah, well baseball, one of my favorites. | 74.2273 |
83 | DTA_int_01 | 74.4098 | Uh-huh. | 74.7385 |
84 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 74.9412 | And uh, | 75.5758 |
86 | | 76.6744 | uh, | 77.2755 |
88 | | 79.2791 | handball | 79.9778 |
90 | | 80.2554 | was | 80.6643 |
92 | | 81.4103 | one we played everyday, just about during the summer. | 83.6640 |
93 | DTA_int_01 | 84.0314 | Mm-hm. | 84.2481 |
94 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 84.5013 | I would look forward to it every day. And a game called pum-pum pete away | 88.7499 |
96 | | 89.3765 | come and find my hideaway. | 90.9203 |
97 | DTA_int_01 | 91.4050 | [Uh-huh.] | 91.7417 |
98 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 91.5484 | [That] was one of 'em. | 92.5186 |
99 | DTA_int_01 | 92.8256 | Uh. What were the rules for that? | 93.9466 |
100 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 94.6789 | Well, uh, if I can remember | 96.4082 |
101 | DTA_int_01 | 96.7354 | Huh. | 96.9788 |
102 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 97.6701 | closely, we'd- | 98.5976 |
104 | | 99.3726 | I think | 99.7898 |
106 | | 99.8965 | we'd have uh, someone in the s- | 101.4464 |
108 | | 101.6783 | center | 102.3983 |
110 | | 102.4784 | in a little ring, | 103.4023 |
112 | | 104.6472 | and, uh, | 105.2818 |
114 | | 106.2780 | the group would be around 'em. | 107.5632 |
116 | | 108.5548 | And uh, | 109.2429 |
118 | | 109.9721 | uh, he would say | 110.8714 |
120 | | 112.3237 | goal. | 112.7845 |
122 | | 113.2365 | And then | 113.7551 |
124 | | 114.4782 | the guy would still be in the | 115.8129 |
126 | | 116.1852 | center, he would say, pum pum pete away, come and find my hideaway. | 119.4069 |
128 | | 119.7425 | And you would try to seek out | 120.9520 |
130 | | 122.1508 | someone. If you found one, he had to get in the center. | 124.5989 |
131 | DTA_int_01 | 124.7484 | Oh, I see. | 125.2621 |
132 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 125.3952 | See. | 125.6698 |
134 | | 126.8600 | And marbles, | 127.9688 |
136 | | 128.1183 | I enjoyed marbles. | 129.2534 |
138 | | 129.8269 | And we had another game, uh. | 131.3265 |
140 | | 134.0596 | We had about | 134.6362 |
142 | | 134.9482 | t- | 135.0764 |
144 | | 135.2281 | a da- a triangle I think it was, about | 137.2792 |
146 | | 138.2281 | nine holes. | 139.1615 |
148 | | 139.2347 | We would pitch a little ball | 140.6221 |
150 | | 141.8734 | everyone had a designated uh, | 143.6062 |
152 | | 143.8696 | hole. | 144.2876 |
154 | | 145.8331 | And we'd pitch the little ball | 147.1725 |
156 | | 147.3594 | through these holes | 148.2222 |
158 | | 148.7012 | if it- | 149.0581 |
160 | | 149.3432 | ball fell in your hole, you had to get it and | 151.1920 |
162 | | 151.2957 | pick it up, and | 151.7168 |
164 | | 151.8815 | if you threw it, hit somebody | 153.0429 |
166 | | 153.3396 | then he would be | 154.2572 |
168 | | 155.1335 | it. | 155.3441 |
170 | | 156.0244 | Far as I can think of he would be | 158.0025 |
172 | | 158.7356 | uh, | 159.4190 |
174 | | 161.7719 | Well somehow I forget some of the rules of that one. | 163.9803 |
175 | DTA_int_01 | 164.1586 | Did you had a special name for [that] kind of game or? | 165.9621 |
176 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 165.4831 | [<ts>] | 165.5441 |
177 | | 166.1634 | No, there was no- | 167.2486 |
179 | | 167.3981 | oof, no name for that one. | 168.9445 |
181 | | 170.4856 | And uh, | 171.4533 |
183 | | 173.0221 | ping pong. I played quite a bit of ping pong. I was pretty good. My brothers and I, both of us. At least my brother, he won the- | 178.8685 |
185 | | 179.9897 | out in Hamtramck, he won a City Champ- | 182.1774 |
187 | | 182.7560 | He- well he was a runner up in the City Championship out in Hamtramck. | 186.0012 |
189 | | 186.7029 | We were both good. | 187.5786 |
191 | | 188.3260 | And uh, I was older than he was and uh. | 190.8456 |
193 | | 191.7127 | I kind of regretted | 192.8721 |
195 | | 193.4439 | he was better than I because, [you know, me] being older. | 195.4325 |
196 | DTA_int_01 | 194.5202 | [<laugh>] | 195.0999 |
197 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 195.7498 | And he'd beat me sometimes and I'd come home and- | 198.1640 |
199 | | 198.7467 | now, but this was something that we did | 200.2158 |
201 | | 200.5850 | during the winter months | 201.5367 |
203 | | 201.6832 | after school. We'd go up to the pa- or the recreation center. | 204.9074 |
205 | | 205.9158 | And they had | 206.3063 |
207 | | 206.5687 | checkers and um | 207.5929 |
209 | | 207.7699 | chess, | 208.1971 |
211 | | 208.6425 | and ping pong, that's the /??/ the extent of the | 211.1349 |
213 | | 211.4036 | recreation up there. | 212.3859 |
215 | | 213.0205 | And uh, | 213.7218 |
217 | | 214.0269 | he would | 214.3625 |
219 | | 215.3298 | beat me and /he/ would do so much to me. [I never will forget it.] | 218.4149 |
220 | DTA_int_01 | 217.4203 | [<laugh>] | 218.0183 |
221 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 218.8543 | And I'd come home. I would- and my mother would know when- just when he would beat me. | 222.3111 |
223 | | 222.6528 | But he was real good. | 223.6251 |
225 | | 224.3757 | And we both were pretty equally good. | 226.3991 |
227 | | 227.5825 | And ping pong, so. | 229.0137 |
229 | | 229.4451 | /But/. | 229.7000 |
230 | DTA_int_01 | 229.7976 | How do you play, uh, what were the rules for handball? | 231.8546 |
231 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 232.6054 | Handball? | 233.2706 |
232 | DTA_int_01 | 233.4725 | Uh-huh. | 233.7960 |
233 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 233.7960 | Well, | 234.2844 |
234 | | 235.1753 | we uh, | 235.7977 |
236 | | 235.9564 | well, uh, like we had down at the um, | 237.5185 |
238 | | 239.8017 | uh, Hamtramck | 240.4808 |
240 | | 240.6272 | Hamtramck High School uh, court there, they had, um, | 243.2773 |
242 | | 243.9364 | it was right in back of the gymnasium. And, um, | 246.2155 |
244 | | 247.1064 | there was a- | 247.6922 |
246 | | 248.5648 | they had it all arranged for | 250.1538 |
248 | | 250.6481 | tennis, you know, so forth, and so there was a big wall there. | 253.3667 |
250 | | 253.7573 | And it had lines drawn | 255.3072 |
252 | | 255.5879 | from | 256.0395 |
254 | | 256.9060 | one end of the | 257.6388 |
256 | | 258.4992 | uh, to, uh, let you know what | 260.1650 |
258 | | 260.6021 | start and finished of a | 261.7493 |
260 | | 262.1399 | handball court. | 263.0125 |
262 | | 263.8363 | And, um, | 264.4770 |
264 | | 264.7150 | you served | 265.3862 |
266 | | 266.3585 | one man would serve. | 267.4508 |
268 | | 268.3023 | And, um, | 269.1017 |
270 | | 271.4431 | I forget now- I can't think too much. | 273.7321 |
272 | | 274.4033 | You would serve and um, | 275.9531 |
274 | | 277.8997 | the fellow you were playing against | 279.4436 |
276 | | 280.3378 | he was supposed to hit the ball, and you're- you- your uh, uh, objective was to | 284.6415 |
278 | | 284.9380 | make it more difficult for him to | 286.7808 |
280 | | 287.3056 | get the next ball that you hit. | 288.6542 |
281 | DTA_int_01 | 288.8038 | Oh. | 289.0784 |
282 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 289.2676 | And if it | 289.8351 |
284 | | 290.0853 | if he- if he hit a ball, and it went out of bounds of what he | 292.7795 |
286 | | 293.0236 | that was your point. | 293.7742 |
288 | | 294.4515 | And if | 294.8421 |
290 | | 295.0434 | you hit a ball and he didn't | 296.8017 |
292 | | 297.5156 | return it to the wall, and then he- and it went to the floor, | 300.2799 |
293 | DTA_int_01 | 300.5036 | [Uh-huh.] | 300.7904 |
294 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 300.6378 | [uh,] to the ground, well that was a point | 302.4013 |
295 | | 302.7127 | [for you too.] | 303.3655 |
296 | DTA_int_01 | 302.8416 | [/inaudible/] | 303.1413 |
297 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 304.1138 | See, I think the game wa- it- the- the uh, limit was eleven I think. Eleven points. | 308.7258 |
299 | | 309.6533 | I don't think we ha- was [/inaudible/.] | 310.7827 |
300 | DTA_int_01 | 310.5569 | [Do you have] a si- any side walls at all? | 312.3449 |
301 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 312.6927 | No, this was no side wall- were- when I was playing, [but they] do have side walls, I know. | 316.9417 |
302 | DTA_int_01 | 315.3208 | [Right.] | 315.5588 |
303 | | 317.1980 | Yeah. | 317.3718 |
304 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 317.3718 | Well, now, they can ricochet off the s- you can play off the [sides.] | 320.4493 |
305 | DTA_int_01 | 320.4005 | [Yeah.] | 320.6141 |
306 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 321.1388 | Yeah, I know, I noticed out the Belle Isle, they have a court out there. | 323.8941 |
308 | | 324.3090 | But, we just had some lines drawn. | 326.1641 |
310 | | 326.8500 | And if it went out of the line, then you lost that point. | 329.0040 |
311 | DTA_int_01 | 329.2481 | [Oh yeah?] | 329.5044 |
312 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 329.3884 | [If you] went on this line, you lost a point. | 331.1171 |
313 | | 331.5809 | And if you didn't- | 332.3925 |
315 | | 332.8555 | if I hit the ball and | 334.3444 |
317 | | 334.5824 | uh, his return shot | 335.8334 |
319 | | 336.2422 | didn't hit the wall again, it was /typical/, well, I got a point that way too. | 339.4384 |
320 | DTA_int_01 | 339.4384 | Yeah. | 339.6458 |
321 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 340.1035 | Yeah. | 340.3903 |
323 | | 341.5742 | That was, uh, | 342.4285 |
325 | | 343.0631 | handball. | 343.7160 |
327 | | 344.5349 | And | 344.9031 |
328 | DTA_int_01 | 344.9031 | Kept quite busy then, with [sports.] | 346.5629 |
329 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 346.0605 | [Oh yeah.] | 346.9223 |
330 | DTA_int_01 | 347.0749 | <laugh> | 347.6302 |
331 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 347.6302 | Yeah. | 347.9475 |
332 | | 349.1054 | So, I broke this finger, I was still active at forty-three years old. | 352.2721 |
333 | DTA_int_01 | 352.2721 | <laugh> | 352.9372 |
334 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 353.2911 | [Mm-hm.] | 353.7061 |
335 | DTA_int_01 | 353.6390 | [Well] that's good. | 354.7983 |
336 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 355.9259 | But we were playing /an inter church/. We got a parish, uh, Saint Theresa and, uh, | 359.7330 |
338 | | 359.9466 | Saint Cecilia's and | 361.2647 |
340 | | 361.5832 | quite a few other | 362.5656 |
342 | | 363.0111 | parishes. Um, this is the first year they got into | 365.7875 |
344 | | 366.2931 | a- | 366.6715 |
346 | | 366.9400 | that I knew about that they have a inter parish league. | 369.6896 |
347 | DTA_int_01 | 369.9038 | Uh-huh. | 370.1427 |
348 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 370.2085 | And uh | 370.7881 |
350 | | 371.6978 | I think next year, our parish will. We've combined forces with Saint Cecilia because they didn't have enough | 376.5037 |
351 | DTA_int_01 | 376.7366 | Oh, I [see.] | 377.2371 |
352 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 377.2064 | [to] make up a team from one parish, so we combined with them. | 380.3527 |
353 | | 381.0478 | Mm-hm. | 381.4386 |
354 | DTA_int_01 | 381.9906 | I'll have to get a- | 382.8144 |
356 | | 383.0890 | get some more [players /??/.] | 384.3120 |
357 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 383.9155 | [Yeah.] So, I'm- I'm l- I'm been out of commission there, about three weeks now. I gotta go back next week for | 388.9465 |
358 | | 389.3188 | another x-ray of it. It's not too bad, but. | 391.6012 |
359 | DTA_int_01 | 392.1232 | What position did you play? | 393.0583 |
360 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 393.2416 | Short stop. | 393.9312 |
361 | DTA_int_01 | 394.0898 | Oh. | 394.2788 |
362 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 394.3815 | Yeah. | 394.7328 |
364 | | 395.6886 | That was a hot ball I caught | 397.0127 |
366 | | 398.1056 | and, uh, | 398.8622 |
368 | | 399.2222 | I shoulda let it go on, but uh, | 400.8292 |
370 | | 401.1849 | I /feel I didn't/ | 402.0008 |
372 | | 402.7844 | And I felt the uh | 403.9499 |
374 | | 404.3161 | little tingle in my hand, it broke the nail. | 406.1777 |
375 | DTA_int_01 | 406.5561 | Uh-huh. | 406.8490 |
376 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 407.0870 | Broke the nail, and | 408.0679 |
378 | | 408.1907 | cracked it, ended up bleeding, so. | 409.8549 |
380 | | 410.3797 | I just tied it up with a handkerchief and kept on playing. | 412.4696 |
382 | | 413.0038 | But the swelling never went down. It was three weeks | 415.5667 |
384 | | 415.9694 | before I went to the doctor. | 417.0585 |
385 | DTA_int_01 | 417.2523 | Is that right? | 417.7297 |
386 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 418.1690 | And [he found.] | 418.6999 |
387 | DTA_int_01 | 418.2972 | [Well, did they.] | 419.1637 |
388 | | 419.9602 | They still fixed it okay, huh? | 421.1074 |
389 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 421.5285 | Well, he says, it's not too bad of a fracture. It's a hairline fracture right across through here, what doctor said, so I gotta go back next week | 429.0928 |
391 | | 429.6542 | and let him | 430.2217 |
393 | | 430.6672 | check it. | 431.0577 |
395 | | 431.8815 | So, I guess that's why he didn't put it in a cast. | 434.0294 |
396 | DTA_int_01 | 434.3143 | Uh. | 434.5250 |
397 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 434.7621 | Mm-hm. | 435.1572 |
399 | | 435.9418 | It's something new in splints. | 437.2843 |
400 | DTA_int_01 | 437.8518 | Yeah. | 438.1480 |
402 | | 438.3311 | I- I /feel as/ | 439.4091 |
404 | | 439.5408 | g- lots of [breathable ones.] | 440.9635 |
405 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 440.4753 | [Yeah.] And uh. | 441.6592 |
406 | | 442.0314 | It keeps me from bending that | 443.2697 |
408 | | 443.4771 | part where it was broken. I can bend it from the bottom part down, but not | 446.7351 |
410 | | 447.2782 | you know, at the knuckle. | 448.3423 |
411 | DTA_int_01 | 448.4521 | Uh-huh. | 448.7021 |
412 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 448.7636 | Mm-hm. | 449.2465 |
413 | DTA_int_01 | 449.6359 | Yeah, that's nice. | 450.2766 |
415 | | 450.7038 | Oh, it's a | 451.2103 |
417 | | 451.6130 | finger- | 452.0096 |
419 | | 452.1402 | you know, end of the finger that got blocked /down, but/, | 454.0040 |
421 | | 454.5166 | you know, they- | 454.8888 |
422 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 455.2428 | [Mm-hm.] | 455.6272 |
423 | DTA_int_01 | 455.5174 | [they] r- rigged it up like [that.] | 456.9492 |
424 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 456.7234 | [Yeah.] | 457.2238 |
425 | | 457.6632 | See, I can open it up and | 459.1216 |
427 | | 459.5304 | wash my hands and so forth. | 460.8269 |
428 | DTA_int_01 | 461.3761 | Hm. | 461.5675 |
429 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 461.7694 | Mm-hm. | 462.2260 |
430 | DTA_int_01 | 462.5747 | Uh. | 462.9530 |
432 | | 463.8745 | Uh. What are your favorite TV programs? | 465.7598 |
433 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 466.3700 | Mine, uh, s- well. My mostly, uh, things I watch now is, uh, | 470.8926 |
435 | | 471.1985 | if I see a | 472.1087 |
437 | | 472.4739 | adventure program. Something like a- | 474.4632 |
439 | | 475.6364 | uh, | 476.2771 |
441 | | 478.0895 | what's his name? Um. | 479.1313 |
443 | | 479.7354 | Um, | 480.4676 |
445 | | 481.8454 | Gerald Durrell. | 482.5893 |
447 | | 482.8400 | His adventure programs like Wildlife. | 484.8001 |
449 | | 485.0686 | [That's what] I like. | 485.8741 |
450 | DTA_int_01 | 485.0686 | [Oh, yeah.] | 485.4383 |
451 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 487.0307 | [Uh.] And if I see uh, a movie on that's got wildlife in it, uh | 490.8078 |
452 | DTA_int_01 | 490.7578 | Hm. | 491.0669 |
453 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 490.9979 | I enjoy that. | 491.7973 |
454 | | 492.6742 | Like, uh, this s- s- | 493.7360 |
456 | | 493.8519 | sportsman's one that was on. I don't know if it's still on or not. | 496.2135 |
458 | | 496.9946 | But it used to come on Sundays you just have elephant hunts, uh. | 499.7608 |
459 | DTA_int_01 | 499.7608 | Oh. | 500.1025 |
460 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 500.1025 | Buffalo hunt, or tiger hunt or something like that. | 502.3636 |
461 | | 503.4202 | That | 503.6289 |
463 | | 504.0853 | brings out the best in me. | 505.1593 |
465 | | 505.7145 | And uh, | 506.3461 |
467 | | 507.0257 | uh, | 507.5169 |
469 | | 510.3472 | any real good, uh, | 511.5382 |
471 | | 511.7773 | uh, mystery I would like, but these- uh | 513.8471 |
473 | | 515.9022 | these comedies, they don't- | 516.9075 |
475 | | 517.1180 | don't faze me at all. | 518.3105 |
476 | DTA_int_01 | 518.4722 | Uh-huh. | 518.6858 |
477 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 518.7194 | I don't | 519.2076 |
479 | | 519.4426 | get carried away with 'em. | 520.4149 |
480 | DTA_int_01 | 521.2594 | Do you hunt yourself? | 522.2079 |
481 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 522.8548 | No, I haven't done any hunting. I like to fish. | 525.1761 |
482 | DTA_int_01 | 525.3378 | Uh-huh. | 525.5850 |
484 | | 526.1110 | Where do you fish around here? | 526.9837 |
485 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 527.3804 | Well, I just bought me some Canadian fishing license this summer, [and uh,] | 531.6143 |
486 | DTA_int_01 | 531.0255 | [Oh.] | 531.3504 |
487 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 532.8043 | we went over | 533.4547 |
489 | | 533.7895 | first part of my vacation, I had a week off. I | 536.1547 |
491 | | 536.7780 | took | 536.9214 |
493 | | 537.0953 | the two kids and I | 538.3091 |
495 | | 538.6478 | and uh, his- one of his pals | 540.1150 |
497 | | 540.6891 | and we went over, bought my license and we went down to a spot there. | 544.2313 |
499 | | 544.8675 | Not too far from the ridge. | 546.1245 |
501 | | 547.1729 | And, uh, | 547.8288 |
503 | | 548.7751 | my daughter caught the only fish. | 550.1795 |
504 | DTA_int_01 | 550.2710 | [Oh. (laughing) ] | 551.1320 |
505 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 550.6973 | [Little- She's] seven years old. | 552.2755 |
506 | DTA_int_01 | 552.4686 | [<laugh>] | 554.8965 |
507 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 552.6486 | [The only fish we caught that day.] | 554.0579 |
509 | | 554.6242 | [And /they/] brought 'em back, | 555.5426 |
510 | | 556.1727 | I had a little basin there, I was prepared to catch a boat load of fish. I say, I heard so much about Canada f- | 561.3392 |
512 | | 561.4978 | Canadian fishing, | 562.3765 |
514 | | 563.1989 | that you | 563.7786 |
516 | | 563.9922 | guaranteed to fishing, but we didn't go too far. But anyway, we had a ba- I had the basin there. | 567.9465 |
518 | | 568.3939 | And they put this little- it was about this long, | 570.3252 |
520 | | 571.3090 | fish and it looks like a sun fish, | 572.9962 |
522 | | 573.5066 | and I | 573.7903 |
524 | | 573.9063 | put it in the | 574.4555 |
526 | | 574.7758 | basin there and | 575.4877 |
528 | | 575.5976 | fill it up with water. | 576.4458 |
530 | | 576.5800 | It stayed alive | 577.5258 |
531 | DTA_int_01 | 577.7129 | [Huh.] | 577.9939 |
532 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 577.8554 | [brought] him back here | 578.6548 |
533 | | 578.7738 | put him on the back porch. | 579.7440 |
535 | | 580.0719 | And they made a pet out of him. | 581.1001 |
536 | DTA_int_01 | 581.7064 | [Oh no. (laughing)] | 582.3656 |
537 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 581.9654 | [But.] | 582.3656 |
538 | | 582.6036 | I didn't realize after a while, I just said, well I didn't f- | 584.7977 |
540 | | 585.2279 | have the feelings to kill him to eat him. | 587.1315 |
542 | | 587.2047 | After they were just | 588.1169 |
544 | | 588.3324 | every morning, they'd go right- | 589.4473 |
546 | | 589.6987 | they wake up out of the bed, | 590.7330 |
548 | | 591.0809 | they would head right for the | 591.9939 |
550 | | 592.1557 | back porch to see what he was doing. He's swimming around /in his space/.] | 594.7642 |
552 | | 595.2044 | But he was out of his own elements. See, I mean the water didn't have the nutrients or whatever you [call] | 599.8469 |
553 | DTA_int_01 | 599.6625 | [Uh-huh.] | 599.8469 |
554 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 600.1498 | that kept him alive and he | 601.3678 |
556 | | 602.1276 | kind of fight and he died. | 603.4006 |
557 | DTA_int_01 | 603.6355 | Huh. | 603.8338 |
558 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 603.9894 | Yeah, we were p- | 604.5736 |
560 | | 604.6591 | sad, we were so sad. | 605.9924 |
561 | DTA_int_01 | 606.2471 | <laugh> A funeral bell and everything? | 607.8900 |
562 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 607.9205 | Yeah, I told her I- | 609.0643 |
564 | | 609.3115 | I said I buried your little fish. | 611.1147 |
566 | | 611.4198 | She said where'd you bury it? I say, I won't tell you because every time you see that spot, you | 615.2504 |
568 | | 615.3601 | probably wouldn't feel too good. | 616.8770 |
569 | DTA_int_01 | 617.0479 | Huh. | 617.2706 |
570 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 618.0351 | Told her | 618.5935 |
572 | | 619.3529 | So I, | 619.8520 |
574 | | 620.0460 | you know, fold him up, put him in the garbage, you know. | 622.1833 |
575 | DTA_int_01 | 622.4612 | Oh yeah. | 622.7980 |
577 | | 623.8003 | Um. | 624.1340 |
579 | | 624.6330 | Do you have a pet around the house here? | 626.1099 |
580 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 626.2153 | No. | 626.5709 |
581 | DTA_int_01 | 626.6564 | Uh-huh. | 626.9772 |
582 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 627.6098 | [B-] | 627.8042 |
583 | DTA_int_01 | 627.6327 | [Do you] remember a pet that you had, maybe when you were a [boy]? | 630.0991 |
584 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 630.0420 | [I] had a pet bra- rabbit once | 631.8050 |
585 | | 631.9462 | when I was real young. | 633.4764 |
587 | | 634.2157 | And uh. | 634.9242 |
589 | | 635.9845 | Never | 636.4849 |
591 | | 637.7261 | forget it because, | 638.7940 |
593 | | 638.9160 | I ha- we were living in- | 640.0091 |
595 | | 640.2258 | out in Hamtramck, | 641.2235 |
597 | | 641.7060 | we were living in this multiple dwelling, we lived on the back | 644.2011 |
599 | | 644.7203 | part of the dwelling. | 645.5990 |
601 | | 646.5418 | And, uh, | 647.1917 |
603 | | 648.2457 | I had a pet rabbit. It was given to me | 650.3223 |
605 | | 650.7412 | by a store man, I think it was. I can't remember. | 653.3465 |
607 | | 653.6638 | But, anyway, | 654.2588 |
609 | | 654.6768 | I had him on the back porch. | 656.0406 |
611 | | 656.6683 | And I was trying to throw a uh, s- | 658.2494 |
613 | | 658.8321 | dust pan or something, a little shovel or something | 660.8838 |
615 | | 661.4849 | up on the back porch. And I threw it up there. | 663.7955 |
617 | | 664.2776 | It hit the little rabbit and killed him. | 665.8882 |
619 | | 666.0682 | [Just] like that. | 666.7729 |
620 | DTA_int_01 | 666.0682 | [Oh.] | 666.2975 |
621 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 667.7248 | I never /will/ forget it. | 668.9068 |
623 | | 669.3797 | And from then on, I never did have too much for eating rabbits, but a lot of people like | 673.0191 |
625 | | 673.8443 | wild rabbit, right. Today I don't have a | 676.2234 |
627 | | 677.1936 | uh, you know a yearn- a /yin/ for | 679.2946 |
629 | | 679.4991 | rabbit. | 679.9874 |
630 | DTA_int_01 | 680.3107 | Huh. | 680.4907 |
631 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 680.7379 | Um, because of that. | 681.7348 |
633 | | 682.8613 | Yeah. | 683.2305 |
635 | | 683.4776 | That's the only pet. I had a little /dog/- | 685.5076 |
637 | | 686.3276 | dogs, you know, but uh, never did have a | 688.3857 |
639 | | 688.4894 | great attachment for dogs. I don't know why. | 690.4791 |
641 | | 691.0589 | Even today, I don't- | 692.0134 |
643 | | 692.7688 | my wife had a | 693.7568 |
644 | DTA_int_01 | 695.0237 | Mm. | 695.2007 |
645 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 695.5088 | Least the neighbor a couple doors down gave us one of their puppies and uh, | 699.1093 |
647 | | 700.0651 | and um, | 700.9133 |
649 | | 701.4433 | kept him down. We're trying to train him and everything, of course I was all out by all four trying to train him. | 706.1166 |
651 | | 706.7580 | But my wife, she lost patience with his little | 708.8571 |
653 | | 709.2396 | things he would do, you know. | 710.4570 |
654 | DTA_int_01 | 710.6065 | Yeah. | 710.8850 |
655 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 711.0214 | She couldn't get accustomed to it, and so | 713.2610 |
657 | | 714.0380 | we had to give him away. | 715.0997 |
658 | DTA_int_01 | 715.5311 | Hm. | 715.7051 |
659 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 716.0346 | The kids were uh, they liked it, but she just didn't have the patience. | 719.2200 |
660 | DTA_int_01 | 719.6167 | Yeah. | 719.8181 |
661 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 719.8728 | Right then. | 720.3642 |
662 | DTA_int_01 | 721.0952 | Cleaning up after [/inaudible/] | 722.0208 |
663 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 721.7969 | [Yeah.] | 722.1975 |
664 | DTA_int_01 | 722.2853 | [<laugh>] | 722.8604 |
665 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 722.3731 | [Yeah.] | 722.8986 |
666 | | 723.0207 | Yeah, but it's a- it's a- | 724.5401 |
668 | | 725.6157 | you know, it's something you gotta keep after, you know, just like children. | 728.5659 |
669 | DTA_int_01 | 728.8039 | Yeah. | 728.9426 |
670 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 728.9426 | You gotta train 'em, but she just didn't. | 730.8790 |
671 | | 731.6820 | She would | 732.0115 |
673 | | 732.4513 | make her so mad. [<laugh>] | 734.2523 |
674 | DTA_int_01 | 733.7398 | [Yeah.] | 734.1912 |
675 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 734.8863 | Yeah. | 735.2463 |
676 | DTA_int_01 | 736.4478 | Um. Is- | 737.1435 |
678 | | 737.3265 | uh, | 737.7354 |
680 | | 737.9002 | when you were a kid, do you remember any ways that- well. | 740.1802 |
682 | | 740.7843 | after you got older, I suppose you didn't believe it, but. | 743.0037 |
684 | | 743.6017 | Uh. Some ways that you used to be able to get a wish? | 745.5544 |
686 | | 747.0629 | Uh, | 747.3699 |
688 | | 747.5520 | well, some kind of magical ways that. | 749.3561 |
690 | | 751.2110 | Probably your | 751.8794 |
691 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 751.9453 | From the [parents-] parents you mean? | 753.7530 |
692 | DTA_int_01 | 752.3585 | [/inaudible/] | 752.8195 |
693 | | 753.9238 | Yeah. Or any things that you used to do like | 755.9739 |
694 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 755.9739 | Yeah, well n- | 756.8590 |
695 | | 757.2251 | [Well I] used to have a lot of faith in God, uh, like I still do. | 760.6221 |
696 | DTA_int_01 | 757.2251 | [Mm-hm.] | 757.5761 |
697 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 761.0553 | And uh, | 761.6228 |
699 | | 762.3429 | they had a | 763.0324 |
701 | | 763.3374 | stadium down there, they called it Roseink Stadium out in Hamtramck. That's where I was | 766.9316 |
703 | | 767.1696 | rai- I was born in Georgia, but I was raised up in Hamtramck. | 770.1696 |
704 | DTA_int_01 | 770.3344 | Hm. | 770.6334 |
705 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 771.3769 | So, they had a stadium down there. The Roseink Stadium used to sell pop and hot dog and everything and they had | 776.1526 |
707 | | 776.4516 | different teams | 777.3960 |
709 | | 778.0429 | play. | 778.4822 |
711 | | 778.9826 | That was way back in | 780.2883 |
713 | | 781.1121 | early | 781.8261 |
715 | | 782.9713 | thirties, I guess. | 783.7158 |
717 | | 784.4197 | Uh. | 785.0034 |
719 | | 785.8149 | So, I went there, I was real young, so | 787.9418 |
721 | | 788.4178 | I was always trying to get a job selling pop. | 790.3625 |
723 | | 791.1308 | So, um. | 791.9166 |
725 | | 792.4040 | Speaking about the magic wish, | 793.6427 |
726 | DTA_int_01 | 793.9845 | <laugh> | 794.2479 |
727 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 794.2479 | uh, | 794.8054 |
728 | | 796.0567 | the guy said, um | 797.3381 |
730 | | 798.8517 | so, we were about four or five of us wanted a job. | 801.2041 |
732 | | 801.7044 | So, the guy that took care of the s- | 803.6754 |
734 | | 803.9439 | the uh, concessioner, | 805.3047 |
736 | | 805.8858 | he said, well, uh. | 806.8378 |
738 | | 807.2911 | I'm'a flip a coin, | 808.3590 |
740 | | 808.9485 | and see which one of you guys | 810.6963 |
742 | | 812.1630 | uh, | 812.7403 |
744 | | 812.8432 | will be able to sell the pop. | 814.1492 |
746 | | 816.4714 | I wasn't- | 817.3074 |
748 | | 817.8283 | I had God's name in there somewhere. | 819.7077 |
750 | | 822.8935 | I forgot how it was, but anyways, I said, God's name had three letters in it. | 826.3746 |
752 | | 827.4540 | And I cho- I can't remember now, but I knew this | 830.0840 |
754 | | 831.2711 | m- what it was. | 832.1865 |
756 | | 835.5408 | I can't remember that one at all. | 837.2409 |
758 | | 837.7307 | It was something about um, I knew the guy- that's the way I- uh, this one that came true to me. | 842.2070 |
760 | | 842.6341 | I can't think how it went, but | 844.0992 |
762 | | 844.3066 | I just thought about God's name having | 847.0744 |
764 | | 847.4650 | three letters. | 848.2338 |
766 | | 849.3098 | And I used this to get the /?/ and I got the job. | 852.2201 |
767 | DTA_int_01 | 852.4459 | Hm. | 852.6916 |
768 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 853.2962 | But I can't think of what the question is right now, right off hand. | 856.3985 |
770 | | 856.9431 | Well, | 857.3875 |
772 | | 857.5639 | how it went. | 858.2382 |
774 | | 858.3909 | You know, I don't think it was just for heads or tails, but something else. | 861.5018 |
775 | DTA_int_01 | 863.0456 | Two out of three or something like that? | 864.4538 |
776 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 864.6192 | Something in that order. | 865.7742 |
777 | DTA_int_01 | 865.9336 | Had something to do with three. | 867.0028 |
778 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 867.0626 | Yeah. | 867.4920 |
780 | | 867.7533 | This s- ca- this was uh, | 869.2555 |
782 | | 869.4691 | wish that I got. | 870.3417 |
784 | | 870.8550 | I never forget, it'll come to me. | 872.5911 |
786 | | 875.3493 | Can't think of it right off hand. | 876.8199 |
787 | DTA_int_01 | 877.3979 | Well, we can go back to that if you remember, [I guess.] | 880.0446 |
788 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 879.4434 | [Yeah.] | 880.0446 |
789 | DTA_int_01 | 880.6037 | Uh, | 880.9241 |
791 | | 881.9385 | can you tell me, uh can you remember what your school, some of the things that you studied and | 886.7470 |
792 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 887.7860 | Mm-hm. | 888.2314 |
793 | DTA_int_01 | 888.3047 | some of the cour- classes you had in school? | 890.6939 |
794 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 890.9441 | [Mm-hm.] | 891.3439 |
795 | DTA_int_01 | 890.9990 | [Let's say,] probably in grade school- elementary school? | 893.5388 |
796 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 896.3391 | Uh, let's see. Elementary school, uh, | 898.8288 |
798 | | 900.0660 | let me think back to | 901.2691 |
800 | | 901.5492 | /good/ that uh. | 902.4706 |
802 | | 907.1953 | Mm. I can't think too much in the | 909.0734 |
804 | | 909.7935 | elementary and um. | 911.5631 |
806 | | 914.6462 | Arithmetic was a | 915.7263 |
808 | | 915.8544 | problem with me. | 916.7436 |
810 | | 917.7261 | I know that. | 918.5194 |
812 | | 920.5424 | Uh, | 921.0690 |
814 | | 922.5844 | art classes, I enjoyed | 924.3907 |
816 | | 925.7490 | very well. | 926.4446 |
817 | DTA_int_01 | 926.8774 | Hm. | 927.1082 |
818 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 927.7749 | Science. | 928.5072 |
820 | | 929.0726 | /unintelligible/ | 929.9377 |
822 | | 931.0849 | Um. | 931.7134 |
823 | DTA_int_01 | 935.8656 | Did you study about other- other countries and. | 938.3919 |
824 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 939.0753 | Oh yeah, in, uh, | 940.2375 |
826 | | 940.6158 | geography and so forth. Um. | 942.3915 |
828 | | 944.3322 | Mind's a little blank, for going back this far. | 946.8027 |
829 | DTA_int_01 | 946.8576 | Yeah. (laughing) | 947.4556 |
831 | | 947.9797 | Been a [little] | 948.3038 |
832 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 948.2428 | [Uh.] | 948.8530 |
833 | | 949.1680 | Yeah, well we had | 950.1478 |
835 | | 950.2626 | [study] geography and | 952.1459 |
836 | DTA_int_01 | 950.3616 | [/so long/.] | 950.7729 |
837 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 953.4760 | the l- atlas. | 954.9161 |
839 | | 956.0260 | Map showing and so forth. | 957.5333 |
840 | DTA_int_01 | 957.9116 | Did you study about early America and | 959.6751 |
842 | | 959.8556 | anything like [this.] | 960.7920 |
843 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 960.5756 | [Oh yeah.] | 961.1492 |
844 | | 961.4421 | Yeah. | 961.9594 |
845 | DTA_int_01 | 962.0998 | Mm-hm. | 962.4002 |
847 | | 962.6382 | What class was that in? | 963.5352 |
848 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 964.2977 | Well. | 964.7370 |
850 | | 966.3755 | Well, let's see. | 967.2052 |
852 | | 972.5542 | <ts> I don't know whether that was in junior high school or in e- you're speaking of a- a- all. | 976.2676 |
853 | DTA_int_01 | 976.1140 | [Well] I'm- I'm thinking mo- I'm [thinking more or less,] | 978.4101 |
854 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 977.3389 | [More than elementary?] | 978.3047 |
855 | DTA_int_01 | 978.7701 | like in the- like you mentioned geography and- and arithmetic and things like this. | 982.8576 |
856 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 983.0285 | Mm-hm. | 983.5362 |
857 | DTA_int_01 | 983.5362 | Uh. And I'm interested in more terms like this, you know, some specific classes. | 987.9325 |
858 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 988.5568 | Mm-hm. | 989.1096 |
860 | | 993.8404 | Well, I remember. Well, I don't really know if this was in junior high or what, but I remember uh, it was in history. I read, um, the Dred- | 999.6937 |
862 | | 999.8283 | Dred Scott Case. Uh. | 1001.4593 |
864 | | 1002.1985 | But, uh. | 1002.8358 |
866 | | 1004.5296 | Well, they had played a bi- Dred Scott played a big part in- um, | 1008.1723 |
868 | | 1009.4090 | in the slavery | 1010.6056 |
870 | | 1011.0088 | uh, abol- abolition. What now, what it was about. | 1013.4747 |
871 | DTA_int_01 | 1013.1663 | [Mm-hm.] Yeah. That's right. | 1014.0339 |
872 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1014.7363 | Something /there um/, | 1015.8736 |
874 | | 1016.6215 | he was instrumental in um, | 1018.0197 |
876 | | 1020.5263 | e- adding to this | 1021.5993 |
878 | | 1021.9050 | the slaves | 1022.6139 |
880 | | 1022.8805 | freedom. | 1023.3813 |
881 | DTA_int_01 | 1023.5699 | Mm-hm. | 1023.8625 |
882 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1023.8625 | And so forth. | 1024.6646 |
883 | | 1026.3815 | /And then/. | 1026.9018 |
884 | DTA_int_01 | 1027.7082 | From your | 1028.1784 |
886 | | 1028.2972 | uh, from you seat in the- in the- in the classroom, | 1030.6234 |
888 | | 1031.0786 | what are some of the things you could see | 1032.5325 |
890 | | 1032.7226 | in the room | 1033.4003 |
892 | | 1033.5694 | that were- that you can remember? | 1035.0064 |
893 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1035.4421 | Some- from where I was sitting? | 1036.9308 |
894 | DTA_int_01 | 1036.9967 | Yeah. | 1037.2645 |
895 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1040.5561 | Windows for one. (laughing) | 1042.0873 |
897 | | 1042.5231 | I always be looking out a window for [the most-] I think it was in a science class because it was | 1047.1024 |
898 | DTA_int_01 | 1044.2856 | [<laugh>] | 1044.9178 |
899 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1047.5771 | science class were located right by the handball. We had handball courts in /RD-SCHOOL-4/. This was my elementary school. | 1053.7661 |
901 | | 1054.5027 | And there always be some activity down there, I remember looking out | 1057.5528 |
903 | | 1058.1121 | the windows and we had a flag up in there | 1060.6834 |
905 | | 1061.3223 | in the center of the room, I remember that. | 1063.2798 |
906 | DTA_int_01 | 1063.7933 | Uh-huh. | 1064.1198 |
907 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1064.5285 | Uh. | 1064.8731 |
909 | | 1065.4439 | And arts- | 1066.0648 |
911 | | 1066.5536 | art class there. | 1067.6421 |
913 | | 1068.3363 | Uh. | 1069.0192 |
915 | | 1069.9362 | We did a lot of engraving. We used to have a | 1072.5581 |
917 | | 1073.4946 | little piece of linoleum | 1074.8826 |
919 | | 1075.6809 | of | 1076.2584 |
921 | | 1076.7462 | squares cut out and we would | 1078.0778 |
923 | | 1078.6436 | engrave | 1079.2680 |
925 | | 1079.6322 | you know, from a picture. | 1080.6426 |
927 | | 1081.3904 | We would engrave, uh, | 1082.5220 |
929 | | 1082.7757 | pictures out of this linoleum with little special tools | 1085.4567 |
930 | DTA_int_01 | 1085.6713 | Oh, yeah. | 1086.0290 |
931 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1086.2696 | uh, from | 1086.9785 |
933 | | 1087.2480 | one design, you know. | 1088.2560 |
935 | | 1089.5177 | And we had a guy there, his name was /RD-NAME-2/, he was a Polish fella, | 1092.6845 |
937 | | 1093.4695 | and um, | 1094.1133 |
939 | | 1094.7831 | that guy could. | 1095.6221 |
941 | | 1096.2074 | I guess I was around eleven I guess. | 1097.8571 |
943 | | 1098.3968 | He was around the same- | 1099.1968 |
945 | | 1099.5239 | He could really draw. He could take like Maggie and Jiggs in the comic /scripts/, | 1103.5684 |
946 | DTA_int_01 | 1103.6167 | Yeah. | 1103.8757 |
947 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1104.1779 | he could draw the exact image of any | 1107.1044 |
949 | | 1107.6962 | cartoon in the paper. | 1108.8538 |
951 | | 1109.6802 | But was something wrong with him, he had um, | 1111.4427 |
953 | | 1112.7553 | epileptic | 1113.4186 |
954 | DTA_int_01 | 1113.9909 | Oh. | 1114.3941 |
955 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1114.4201 | seizures or something. It would- he would | 1115.9094 |
957 | | 1116.3386 | go off into a trance or something like that, I'll never forget it. | 1118.9346 |
959 | | 1119.7592 | But talk about a gift. | 1121.1296 |
961 | | 1122.2407 | He had it. | 1122.8195 |
962 | DTA_int_01 | 1123.0152 | Hm. | 1123.2883 |
963 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1123.6005 | I never would hap- wonder happened to /RD-NAME-2/. He- | 1125.8120 |
965 | | 1127.1210 | Just the exact, you thought he was a | 1129.0238 |
967 | | 1129.6889 | what his name? Al Capp? Who draws Popeye, /to who'll/ | 1132.1542 |
968 | DTA_int_01 | 1132.1542 | Yeah. Yeah. | 1132.6973 |
969 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1133.1305 | /The/ exactness. | 1134.2365 |
970 | DTA_int_01 | 1134.5486 | Hm. | 1134.7811 |
971 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1134.7811 | Mickey Mouse. | 1135.6112 |
972 | | 1136.1160 | did a l- his hand was so sure | 1138.2478 |
974 | | 1138.8787 | you couldn't tell it . | 1139.6225 |
976 | | 1140.3101 | Usually, I thought maybe when you saw him drawing he'd say, well this is the rough draft for the | 1143.8763 |
978 | | 1144.0489 | real thing. | 1144.6223 |
979 | DTA_int_01 | 1144.6662 | Huh. | 1144.9077 |
980 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1145.4784 | Yeah. | 1145.8222 |
982 | | 1146.3402 | I never will forget that. This was in art class. | 1148.6556 |
983 | DTA_int_01 | 1148.7220 | [/inaudible/] | 1149.1544 |
984 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1148.9412 | [And] we used to have, um, | 1150.2298 |
985 | | 1151.0268 | uh, demonstrations, in the gymnasium. Every year we would have demonstrations where we'd | 1155.2126 |
987 | | 1155.5845 | have us | 1156.0361 |
989 | | 1156.1986 | well, it'd be rela- it's a relation to | 1157.9621 |
991 | | 1158.2156 | modern day circuses, you might say. | 1160.2035 |
992 | DTA_int_01 | 1160.2527 | Uh-huh. | 1160.5381 |
993 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1160.5688 | Everybody, every class would have a little something to contribute | 1163.5661 |
995 | | 1163.9977 | to the demonstration. We have music, and we have candy and peanuts | 1167.3848 |
997 | | 1167.8298 | and dancing and [so forth and.] | 1169.4849 |
998 | DTA_int_01 | 1168.9185 | [Kind of a fair huh?] | 1169.6692 |
999 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1169.8258 | Yeah. This was uh, | 1171.0831 |
1001 | | 1171.1939 | at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 1172.0348 |
1003 | | 1172.9483 | Uh. I can't think of too much about the- the | 1176.0181 |
1005 | | 1178.5621 | school work. I can't think too far about | 1180.9768 |
1006 | DTA_int_01 | 1181.6373 | Hm. | 1181.8515 |
1007 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1181.9261 | arithmetic and | 1183.0834 |
1009 | | 1184.0076 | spelling and so forth | 1185.3257 |
1011 | | 1185.7040 | back in grade school. | 1186.9671 |
1012 | DTA_int_01 | 1187.9966 | Um. Well, you see, the tea- what would the teacher write on? | 1190.6571 |
1013 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1193.2202 | Well, uh. | 1193.9696 |
1014 | DTA_int_01 | 1194.3174 | Uh. She would- might put some work on the. | 1196.6620 |
1015 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1197.1656 | On the board. | 1197.8735 |
1016 | DTA_int_01 | 1198.0687 | Yeah. | 1198.3555 |
1017 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1199.5699 | The [um.] | 1200.5645 |
1018 | DTA_int_01 | 1200.0641 | [And, uh,] | 1200.4974 |
1019 | | 1200.7595 | uh, let's say l- when you uh | 1202.4471 |
1021 | | 1202.6085 | got out of the class | 1203.5543 |
1023 | | 1203.9387 | and before you left the building, you would- | 1205.6997 |
1025 | | 1205.9193 | you would go from the class out into the what? | 1207.5730 |
1026 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1207.9025 | The hallway, yeah. | 1208.8689 |
1027 | DTA_int_01 | 1208.8872 | Uh-huh. | 1209.1008 |
1029 | | 1209.3906 | Can you remember some of the things that were in the hallway? | 1211.2328 |
1030 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1212.3312 | Yeah, we have lockers. We had lockers in the- | 1214.5487 |
1032 | | 1214.7318 | in the hallway. | 1215.4274 |
1034 | | 1215.6471 | [Yeah.] | 1215.8546 |
1035 | DTA_int_01 | 1215.6471 | [Uh-huh.] | 1215.8857 |
1036 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1216.1048 | No we didn't. No we didn't. | 1217.4089 |
1038 | | 1217.6286 | We had our lockers, were in the back of each home room. | 1220.1981 |
1039 | DTA_int_01 | 1220.4727 | Oh? | 1220.7107 |
1040 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1221.0951 | Yeah. | 1221.4674 |
1042 | | 1221.8823 | Uh. Not a locker, but just hangers. | 1223.5808 |
1043 | DTA_int_01 | 1223.7212 | [Yeah.] | 1223.8920 |
1044 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1223.8615 | [We] would hang out clothes and | 1225.1330 |
1045 | | 1225.6394 | see, we would have these different classes, we would always have to come back to our | 1228.9264 |
1047 | | 1229.4756 | home room to get our | 1230.4437 |
1049 | | 1231.3407 | coats and hats. | 1232.1584 |
1051 | | 1233.3191 | In the hallways, we had clock. We had a | 1235.3300 |
1053 | | 1235.6656 | clock up in the wall. | 1236.9043 |
1055 | | 1237.8721 | And the floors were | 1239.4745 |
1057 | | 1241.0367 | immaculate. | 1241.7018 |
1059 | | 1241.9154 | Mm-hm. [Real] clean and polished. | 1243.3103 |
1060 | DTA_int_01 | 1242.1873 | [Uh-huh.] | 1242.5170 |
1061 | | 1243.9211 | What about outside on the playground? Did you have any uh, equipment to play on for the | 1247.7898 |
1062 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1247.9607 | Yeah, we had a | 1248.7295 |
1064 | | 1249.0410 | gravel field that we played on. It was all fenced in, we played soccer. | 1252.7108 |
1065 | DTA_int_01 | 1252.9548 | Mm. | 1253.2111 |
1066 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1253.2111 | I remember that. | 1253.7359 |
1067 | | 1253.9007 | We played soccer. Mm-hm. | 1255.0723 |
1069 | | 1255.7463 | That's the one of our main sports there. | 1257.6867 |
1071 | | 1257.8698 | Uh, there in gym class we'd have | 1259.3282 |
1073 | | 1259.7277 | soccer games. | 1260.7102 |
1074 | DTA_int_01 | 1261.3204 | What about kids nowadays? They play on | 1262.9826 |
1076 | | 1263.1839 | a lot of uh | 1263.8064 |
1078 | | 1264.1176 | equipment, | 1264.5997 |
1080 | | 1264.7343 | you know, the things built, | 1265.8138 |
1082 | | 1266.3813 | uh, being- what are some of the things that they play on? | 1268.5827 |
1083 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1269.5408 | You mean um, what we played on [there?] | 1271.2672 |
1084 | DTA_int_01 | 1271.2141 | [Well] no, now, uh, the kids [now.] The playground equipment that they have now. | 1274.1988 |
1085 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1272.3637 | [Y-] | 1272.5612 |
1086 | | 1275.6017 | /Oh I don't know/. | 1276.3340 |
1088 | | 1280.7085 | I don't see where they have any- uh, now I know they have the. | 1283.2273 |
1090 | | 1283.5995 | I know some schools have a little | 1285.5156 |
1092 | | 1285.9319 | for smalls | 1287.0486 |
1094 | | 1287.2743 | tots, they have a | 1288.1225 |
1096 | | 1288.8060 | different type of designs of a- a some for | 1291.4609 |
1098 | | 1291.8271 | well, swings that have these | 1293.1380 |
1100 | | 1294.3279 | things they climb on, whatever you call 'em, they're [made out] of metal. | 1296.8677 |
1101 | DTA_int_01 | 1296.0378 | [Uh-huh.] | 1296.3429 |
1102 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1297.2705 | That they can exercise on, I've seen those. | 1299.6935 |
1104 | | 1300.3831 | And uh, swings | 1301.7342 |
1106 | | 1302.4151 | and slides. | 1303.4336 |
1108 | | 1304.5564 | We had slides too over- yeah. At the /RD-SCHOOL-4/. [/Now/ I remember.] We did. | 1309.3981 |
1109 | DTA_int_01 | 1308.2021 | [/inaudible/] | 1308.7940 |
1110 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1309.8985 | We had slides over there. | 1311.0500 |
1112 | | 1312.0873 | Mm-hm. | 1312.4962 |
1113 | DTA_int_01 | 1314.0461 | What about- what would the kids do after school, uh, was out? | 1316.6743 |
1115 | | 1317.2296 | After the bell was rung and [they.] | 1318.7020 |
1116 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1318.4627 | [/?/] the bell rung and everybody would | 1320.1116 |
1117 | | 1320.4099 | go, there would be a | 1321.6608 |
1119 | | 1322.3016 | fight now [and then.] | 1323.6440 |
1120 | DTA_int_01 | 1323.0505 | [<laugh>] | 1323.6440 |
1121 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1324.3194 | Um. We'd make a beeline to the /l-/ nearest candy store there and buy some candy. | 1329.6144 |
1123 | | 1330.3847 | And we'd have a little | 1331.5403 |
1125 | | 1332.4697 | certain little groups would w- walk home together, every day. | 1335.4034 |
1127 | | 1336.5427 | Uh. | 1336.9810 |
1128 | DTA_int_01 | 1338.8605 | Did you ever have a teacher that would yell at the kids a lot? | 1341.6831 |
1129 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1342.2144 | Yeah. | 1342.5730 |
1130 | DTA_int_01 | 1343.0578 | Can you tell me about ['em?] | 1343.8851 |
1131 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1343.6128 | [Our] principal, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/. I never will forget her. | 1346.4097 |
1132 | DTA_int_01 | 1346.6422 | What did she used to yell about? | 1348.0034 |
1133 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1348.1031 | She was like a Rock of Gibraltar. She was um, more- | 1351.7592 |
1135 | | 1353.0277 | she had more masculine features than the average [woman, but she was] feared by everybody. This was- yeah. | 1357.8083 |
1136 | DTA_int_01 | 1355.1325 | [<laugh>] | 1355.9381 |
1137 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1358.5853 | To hear her, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ walking down the hall, | 1360.9943 |
1139 | | 1361.3197 | you could hear a pin drop. This true. | 1362.8696 |
1140 | DTA_int_01 | 1362.9891 | Hm. | 1363.2548 |
1141 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1363.8459 | Yeah. | 1364.2178 |
1143 | | 1364.5348 | Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ | 1365.2919 |
1145 | | 1365.8099 | was the | 1366.4475 |
1147 | | 1366.9371 | principal | 1367.5680 |
1149 | | 1367.9733 | but Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ was assistant principal, but she led the whole show. | 1371.6074 |
1150 | DTA_int_01 | 1371.7336 | Yeah. | 1371.9262 |
1151 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1372.5173 | Yes sir. When she walked into a room, | 1374.3694 |
1153 | | 1375.0142 | and to, you know, | 1375.9639 |
1155 | | 1376.4021 | see wha- how the teacher was coming along. | 1378.0890 |
1157 | | 1378.7199 | You hear a pin drop. | 1379.8356 |
1158 | DTA_int_01 | 1380.0465 | Huh. | 1380.2717 |
1159 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1380.2790 | And she would take you by the neck or the arm there if you got out of line and | 1383.6391 |
1161 | | 1384.2700 | it- word just got along that Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ is- is- is- | 1387.0670 |
1163 | | 1387.5386 | is not to be, uh | 1388.6266 |
1165 | | 1388.8324 | fooled with. | 1389.3837 |
1166 | DTA_int_01 | 1389.5630 | Hm. | 1389.7954 |
1167 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1390.1740 | Yeah, but she was the one I can remember that | 1392.3833 |
1169 | | 1392.8416 | really. | 1393.3034 |
1171 | | 1393.4301 | Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ | 1394.4092 |
1173 | | 1394.9604 | another one. | 1395.5647 |
1174 | DTA_int_01 | 1395.8274 | Yeah. | 1395.9964 |
1175 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1395.9964 | But she was | 1396.5935 |
1176 | | 1397.2894 | gentle | 1397.7745 |
1178 | | 1397.8928 | and rough. | 1398.4152 |
1180 | | 1398.8743 | She's kind | 1399.7545 |
1182 | | 1400.2457 | but she know how to get rough. | 1401.3279 |
1184 | | 1401.5628 | I seen her hit a guy with his | 1402.8283 |
1186 | | 1403.1951 | /with her ha-/ | 1403.6495 |
1188 | | 1404.1042 | fist. | 1404.3895 |
1190 | | 1405.1557 | It was a big guy though. | 1406.0241 |
1192 | | 1406.4376 | [In] gym class. She hit him with her fist. | 1408.3693 |
1193 | DTA_int_01 | 1406.4376 | [Huh.] | 1406.6239 |
1194 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1409.1423 | Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/, she res- she um | 1410.7843 |
1196 | | 1411.2277 | you probably read about her. | 1412.2830 |
1198 | | 1413.5101 | She manage all the tennis, uh, | 1415.3471 |
1200 | | 1415.8959 | out in Hamtramck. | 1416.6752 |
1201 | DTA_int_01 | 1417.0689 | Oh. | 1417.4465 |
1202 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1417.5000 | You might re- /RD-NAME-3/ is her name. | 1419.1807 |
1203 | DTA_int_01 | 1419.4377 | I'm not- | 1419.8238 |
1205 | | 1419.9786 | not familiar with [her.] | 1420.7058 |
1206 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1420.6613 | [Yeah] she's gotten one might be going to the Olympic games or something like. Yeah. | 1423.8788 |
1207 | | 1424.3661 | Yeah. | 1424.7370 |
1209 | | 1424.8425 | /RD-NAME-3/, uh-huh, [she's] | 1426.3804 |
1210 | DTA_int_01 | 1425.9136 | [Hm.] | 1426.2165 |
1211 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1427.3136 | still out there. | 1428.1346 |
1213 | | 1428.3655 | But she was our gym teacher. | 1429.6734 |
1214 | DTA_int_01 | 1429.8450 | Is that [right?] | 1430.3016 |
1215 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1430.1640 | [But um.] Yeah. Well, she would- | 1431.6855 |
1216 | | 1432.0631 | she was ju- she was firm but uh, | 1434.4533 |
1218 | | 1435.0825 | she was kind and gentle, you know. If you got outta line, you were gonna get it. | 1437.7559 |
1219 | DTA_int_01 | 1437.9974 | Hm. | 1438.2078 |
1221 | | 1438.6823 | What about the best teacher that you ever had? | 1440.2540 |
1222 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1441.9478 | Best teacher I- | 1442.6269 |
1224 | | 1443.0440 | over in the elementary school I can remember. | 1445.2809 |
1225 | DTA_int_01 | 1445.4191 | Or in high school or any. | 1446.5387 |
1226 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1448.2262 | Oh, the best | 1448.9634 |
1228 | | 1449.2392 | teacher I remember is a Mr.- | 1450.8258 |
1230 | | 1452.3064 | well, this was in music there when I was in- Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. | 1454.8780 |
1231 | DTA_int_01 | 1455.0865 | Hm. | 1455.3323 |
1232 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1456.0523 | Yeah. [He was] | 1456.8352 |
1233 | DTA_int_01 | 1456.4519 | [What did you like] about him? | 1457.4704 |
1234 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1457.3445 | [Well] of course, he was in junior high. Oh he was just, take so much patience with you. | 1460.9327 |
1235 | | 1461.5803 | You know. | 1461.9776 |
1237 | | 1462.4516 | He encouraged me. I- | 1463.4171 |
1239 | | 1463.7754 | I'm a- | 1464.3132 |
1241 | | 1464.8299 | I took up drums, you know. | 1466.1857 |
1242 | DTA_int_01 | 1466.4231 | Oh yeah. | 1466.7787 |
1243 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1466.8091 | When I was in junior high school, | 1468.2755 |
1245 | | 1469.0386 | he encouraged me so much. | 1470.3705 |
1247 | | 1471.0049 | Um, | 1471.4044 |
1249 | | 1472.1120 | just y- I mean, just had some- | 1473.5345 |
1251 | | 1474.0512 | something about him that you- uh, you, | 1475.9264 |
1253 | | 1476.1722 | I don't know he just- | 1476.9397 |
1255 | | 1477.3941 | you learn everything. Just the way he approached you. | 1479.6095 |
1257 | | 1479.7368 | You know. | 1480.0507 |
1258 | DTA_int_01 | 1480.2571 | Mm-hm. | 1480.4415 |
1259 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1480.4415 | He learned me how to- the rudiments of | 1482.3134 |
1260 | | 1482.4275 | drums and everything | 1483.4738 |
1262 | | 1483.9282 | in junior high school. | 1485.1114 |
1264 | | 1485.7941 | And when I graduated from junior high and went to uh, high school, | 1488.8585 |
1266 | | 1490.1273 | he | 1490.5443 |
1268 | | 1491.0295 | in my last two years of high school, he came over there | 1493.7575 |
1270 | | 1494.0341 | and [he was] our | 1494.9088 |
1271 | DTA_int_01 | 1494.1425 | [Uh-huh.] | 1494.4542 |
1272 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1495.3456 | instructor over there. | 1496.6561 |
1274 | | 1497.3243 | And um, | 1497.9762 |
1276 | | 1498.9811 | oh he just a kind and considerate person. | 1501.3296 |
1277 | DTA_int_01 | 1501.7115 | Mm-hm. | 1502.0057 |
1278 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1502.0057 | Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, I never will forget him. He just so gentle with everybody, you know. | 1505.8823 |
1279 | | 1506.6448 | If you got- | 1507.3198 |
1281 | | 1508.1093 | if you did something wrong, if you got, uh, off on the wrong beat, he wouldn't throw a baton at you like I've seen | 1513.3581 |
1282 | DTA_int_01 | 1513.5337 | Yeah. | 1513.7752 |
1283 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1513.7884 | Miss [/RD-NAME-1/], | 1514.2683 |
1284 | DTA_int_01 | 1514.0108 | [/?/] | 1514.2049 |
1285 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1514.6656 | one of our instructors, did. | 1515.9495 |
1287 | | 1516.9014 | He would just, you know, | 1517.8184 |
1289 | | 1518.4592 | talk to you, you might have to stay after | 1520.0431 |
1291 | | 1520.7201 | uh, come after school a- and- and brush up on this, [but.] | 1523.4570 |
1292 | DTA_int_01 | 1523.3340 | [Mm-hm.] | 1523.6150 |
1293 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1524.9677 | That's the only one that I can remember was a- that I can. | 1527.3947 |
1295 | | 1528.8971 | This back in nineteen | 1530.0294 |
1297 | | 1531.0501 | thirty-nine, nineteen forty. | 1532.4169 |
1298 | DTA_int_01 | 1532.5925 | Who was the- did you ever have a teacher that you just | 1534.5991 |
1300 | | 1534.8765 | really couldn't get along with at all? | 1536.5470 |
1302 | | 1537.3570 | Had a hard time getting along with? | 1538.7533 |
1303 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1541.0534 | No, I think I got along with- | 1542.2020 |
1305 | | 1542.6717 | pretty well. | 1543.2227 |
1307 | | 1543.6568 | I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not the one these people /unintelligible/, | 1546.1617 |
1309 | | 1546.5763 | I'm- I'm like this today, I can't, uh, well. | 1548.7506 |
1311 | | 1549.1370 | I'm- I usually take things as they come. | 1550.8118 |
1313 | | 1551.1310 | You know, I- | 1551.6754 |
1315 | | 1552.3559 | she's hard, she's hard. Well, I just | 1553.8653 |
1317 | | 1554.7653 | stay to myself. I was always that type of individual, you know. | 1557.5471 |
1318 | DTA_int_01 | 1557.6668 | Mm-hm. | 1557.9076 |
1319 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1558.3467 | But, uh, there's | 1559.1462 |
1321 | | 1559.2889 | several that I d- you know, just didn't care- | 1561.6569 |
1323 | | 1561.9497 | particularly care for. | 1563.0165 |
1324 | DTA_int_01 | 1563.2525 | Mm-hm. | 1563.5082 |
1325 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1563.8924 | But I j- I just got along pretty good generally with | 1566.2412 |
1327 | | 1566.3202 | most of the | 1566.9349 |
1329 | | 1567.1280 | teachers. | 1567.5399 |
1330 | DTA_int_01 | 1568.2533 | What about- wa- was there any time that the kids in the class pulled a trick on the teacher or- | 1571.9527 |
1332 | | 1572.6902 | You remember? | 1573.2412 |
1333 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1576.5918 | No. | 1576.8574 |
1335 | | 1577.6872 | No, I don't think we had an- had any- I- I don't think remember any time we had any monkeyshines and- | 1582.1000 |
1336 | DTA_int_01 | 1582.3834 | Hm. | 1582.5656 |
1337 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1584.1044 | [No.] | 1584.4271 |
1338 | DTA_int_01 | 1584.1856 | [/inaudible/] With Mrs. /RD-NAME-3/, if I- [/inaudible/] | 1586.4326 |
1339 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1586.0866 | [Not- not] in that element. [No.] | 1588.0562 |
1340 | DTA_int_01 | 1587.9612 | [<laugh>] | 1588.5852 |
1341 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1589.1394 | Mm-hm. | 1589.5741 |
1342 | DTA_int_01 | 1589.6092 | Um. | 1590.0011 |
1344 | | 1590.4736 | Who wa- can you remember who was the smartest kid in the class? | 1593.3034 |
1345 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1595.7474 | Yeah. I can't think of his name. | 1597.3329 |
1347 | | 1598.2117 | He was a r- brainy | 1599.6035 |
1349 | | 1599.6869 | type | 1599.9475 |
1351 | | 1600.4471 | fella, he was | 1601.1219 |
1353 | | 1601.2295 | Polish fella too. | 1602.1998 |
1355 | | 1602.4215 | This was in high school. | 1603.7119 |
1357 | | 1604.6652 | He was a- | 1605.1832 |
1359 | | 1606.0262 | I wouldn't say he was /brainy/ but he was real smart. | 1607.9378 |
1361 | | 1609.1117 | Uh, I can't think [of his-] | 1610.2795 |
1362 | DTA_int_01 | 1610.0337 | [What did he-] what did he do that was so, uh, | 1611.7129 |
1363 | | 1611.8858 | what did- was he uh. | 1612.7024 |
1365 | | 1612.8923 | Mm. | 1613.0152 |
1366 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1613.1733 | Well, he was very studious. | 1614.2780 |
1368 | | 1614.5019 | He always-, uh, he did his homework, | 1616.3521 |
1370 | | 1617.0084 | and when he came- when he came back to class, um, | 1619.6662 |
1372 | | 1620.4784 | he's be prepared. | 1621.3858 |
1374 | | 1621.6185 | All the time. And any question that the teacher would | 1623.7637 |
1376 | | 1623.9442 | a- would ask, | 1624.8596 |
1378 | | 1624.9628 | he would be the first to raise his hand | 1626.5990 |
1380 | | 1626.9392 | and give an- an accurate answer. | 1628.9434 |
1381 | DTA_int_01 | 1629.2880 | Hm. | 1629.4639 |
1382 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1629.7295 | Uh. | 1630.1708 |
1383 | DTA_int_01 | 1631.8264 | Was he very popular among the other kids [too?] | 1634.3300 |
1384 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1634.2927 | [He] wasn't popular. | 1635.3038 |
1385 | DTA_int_01 | 1635.6045 | Uh-huh. | 1635.8241 |
1386 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1636.2850 | He was just, uh, | 1637.1291 |
1388 | | 1637.4144 | smart. | 1637.9676 |
1390 | | 1638.1698 | He wasn't a good looking guy or nothing like that, he | 1640.3219 |
1392 | | 1640.7675 | in some way, you might say, he act a little silly once in a while among the kids, but | 1644.3212 |
1394 | | 1644.9863 | they would- | 1645.2980 |
1396 | | 1645.9788 | they would, uh, | 1646.7756 |
1398 | | 1646.9133 | rib him once in a while and all that, but it never fazed him. Never bothered him. He | 1650.7622 |
1399 | DTA_int_01 | 1650.9447 | Hm. | 1651.1598 |
1400 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1651.2257 | kept with his books. | 1652.1103 |
1402 | | 1652.8424 | Yeah, but he was al- he was always attentive to | 1655.3007 |
1404 | | 1655.6804 | class, whatever the homework is supposed to be. | 1657.5683 |
1406 | | 1658.0778 | And | 1658.4071 |
1408 | | 1659.1842 | well, he was really a- | 1660.3558 |
1409 | DTA_int_01 | 1663.3256 | Hm. | 1663.4683 |
1410 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1663.4880 | I would just call a bookworm | 1664.9074 |
1411 | DTA_int_01 | 1665.0843 | Yeah. | 1665.3345 |
1412 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1665.5298 | [Yeah.] | 1665.9203 |
1413 | DTA_int_01 | 1665.5353 | [Who was the] uh, some | 1666.6910 |
1414 | | 1666.9215 | who was the dumbest kid in the class? Or the kid who had the most trouble with, uh, | 1669.8276 |
1416 | | 1671.8142 | ki- getting [along with the /inaudible/] | 1673.5313 |
1417 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1672.5114 | [Well one of 'em was this one that's just] | 1673.7865 |
1418 | | 1674.0057 | the kid I told you that Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ socked. | 1676.3002 |
1419 | DTA_int_01 | 1676.5592 | Oh. | 1676.8578 |
1420 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1677.6340 | He was a big guy, he was bigger for his age. He was the biggest guy in the class. | 1681.2472 |
1421 | DTA_int_01 | 1681.6006 | Hm. | 1681.7812 |
1422 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1681.8383 | But he would never- | 1682.7449 |
1424 | | 1683.6819 | his name was Eddie, I forget his last name was. | 1685.7259 |
1426 | | 1686.3976 | But he would never, uh, | 1687.5561 |
1428 | | 1688.2607 | He'd never do anything right, he would never have his homework, or nothing like that. And he- | 1691.5829 |
1430 | | 1692.2076 | He was a tough guy, you know, he was real tough and he didn't- | 1695.1802 |
1432 | | 1695.9143 | he just went to school because maybe his parents- | 1697.8875 |
1434 | | 1697.9884 | parents | 1698.3232 |
1436 | | 1698.4527 | said you got to get out of the house and go. Well, that's one of those things. | 1701.0136 |
1437 | DTA_int_01 | 1701.3962 | Hm. | 1701.5838 |
1438 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1702.0645 | Mm-hm. | 1702.5036 |
1440 | | 1703.4562 | [Uh.] | 1704.1126 |
1441 | DTA_int_01 | 1703.7089 | [And, uh,] | 1704.1447 |
1442 | | 1704.2729 | was the teacher- how'd the teacher react to him? M- or the teachers in general, were they- | 1708.2598 |
1443 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1708.9109 | Well, um, | 1709.8482 |
1445 | | 1710.4651 | they would more or less- to me, they would more or less, uh | 1712.5990 |
1447 | | 1713.4389 | take him for granted, cause he was- he stood out. You know, it's like, you're big and /then/ | 1716.3305 |
1449 | | 1716.8381 | out of all the little kids and, uh, | 1718.5788 |
1451 | | 1719.4835 | he would- they would ask sh- I remember the teacher would ask him something and he would uh, | 1722.8665 |
1453 | | 1724.0071 | uh, you know, the- the heck with you attitude. [And uh.] /It's them-/ something like that. | 1728.0413 |
1454 | DTA_int_01 | 1726.4302 | [Yeah.] | 1726.7536 |
1455 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1728.5293 | And they'd just- teacher would come to a point where they would | 1730.9265 |
1457 | | 1731.5195 | just ignore him, [see.] | 1732.8807 |
1458 | DTA_int_01 | 1732.5626 | [Hm.] | 1732.8311 |
1459 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1733.7766 | And they'd fail him in different- | 1735.8395 |
1461 | | 1736.0458 | every time the semester end. | 1737.5956 |
1463 | | 1738.0942 | Sometimes he would pass, I guess it was | 1739.8456 |
1465 | | 1740.3439 | pass him just to get rid of him [sometime.] | 1742.3124 |
1466 | DTA_int_01 | 1741.9416 | [Uh-huh.] | 1742.4115 |
1467 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1742.6181 | Or something like that. But he was- | 1744.1393 |
1469 | | 1745.3431 | he was a good athlete though, he could play baseball | 1747.5223 |
1471 | | 1748.0370 | real good. | 1748.5112 |
1472 | DTA_int_01 | 1748.8951 | [Hm.] | 1749.0842 |
1473 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1748.9063 | [Soccer.] | 1749.4773 |
1474 | | 1750.2544 | Yeah. | 1750.5464 |
1476 | | 1750.7856 | Baseball, yeah, he was real good. | 1752.4067 |
1478 | | 1753.3726 | But uh, | 1753.9667 |
1480 | | 1754.1203 | s- t- | 1754.5089 |
1482 | | 1754.7306 | books | 1755.1776 |
1484 | | 1755.3537 | wasn't for him. | 1756.0710 |
1485 | DTA_int_01 | 1756.3218 | Huh. | 1756.4886 |
1486 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1756.9150 | Mm-hm. | 1757.3411 |
1487 | DTA_int_01 | 1757.9360 | Um. | 1758.3158 |
1489 | | 1759.3966 | What, uh, about what time do- | 1761.2685 |
1491 | | 1761.4814 | did uh, | 1762.0983 |
1493 | | 1762.3469 | do the kids get out of school now? | 1763.7693 |
1494 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1764.7934 | Uh, my kids they- um, the um, | 1767.3142 |
1496 | | 1768.7364 | ones in the | 1769.6825 |
1498 | | 1770.1413 | they're all in /RD-SCHOOL-3/, they get out around three. | 1772.2848 |
1499 | DTA_int_01 | 1772.6756 | Uh-huh. | 1772.9060 |
1500 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1773.2990 | Uh. | 1774.1134 |
1502 | | 1774.4132 | Of course and my son just graduated. | 1776.2435 |
1504 | | 1776.9503 | They get out, | 1777.5693 |
1506 | | 1777.7318 | well, | 1778.2520 |
1508 | | 1778.8469 | sometimes a little, about a half hour early, about two thirty something like that. | 1782.1986 |
1509 | DTA_int_01 | 1782.4543 | I see. | 1782.9302 |
1510 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1783.0157 | Uh-huh. | 1783.4733 |
1511 | DTA_int_01 | 1783.6628 | Uh, we're interested in finding out specific terms you would use for | 1786.3321 |
1513 | | 1786.7041 | um | 1786.8973 |
1515 | | 1787.0839 | between | 1787.5032 |
1517 | | 1787.7732 | it would be fifteen minutes after three thirty. | 1789.8821 |
1519 | | 1790.0885 | What would you use for this? | 1791.1575 |
1520 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1792.1195 | Oh you mean wha- when they get out? | 1793.4668 |
1521 | DTA_int_01 | 1793.8685 | Uh, for- fifteen minutes after three thirty, what time would it be? | 1796.5137 |
1522 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1798.2958 | Fifteen minutes after three thirty? | 1799.5947 |
1523 | DTA_int_01 | 1799.5947 | Yeah. | 1799.8265 |
1525 | | 1800.2865 | Quarter. | 1800.7453 |
1526 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1801.0263 | Quarter to four? | 1801.7787 |
1527 | DTA_int_01 | 1801.9850 | Yeah. | 1802.1628 |
1528 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1802.3494 | Mm-hm. | 1802.6721 |
1530 | | 1803.6476 | Huh. | 1803.8605 |
1531 | DTA_int_01 | 1803.9069 | /unintelligible/ | 1804.2364 |
1532 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1804.2496 | /unintelligible/ Uh-huh. | 1805.1447 |
1533 | DTA_int_01 | 1805.9267 | Um. | 1806.2999 |
1535 | | 1806.8228 | Is there a | 1807.4002 |
1537 | | 1807.7424 | well, in high school, | 1808.7329 |
1539 | | 1808.9941 | were there a bunch of guys that you used to hang around with and | 1811.3767 |
1541 | | 1811.9189 | do things together and have common interests and so forth and? | 1814.4391 |
1542 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1815.6553 | Mm-hm. | 1816.0685 |
1544 | | 1816.1585 | [Yeah.] | 1816.4617 |
1545 | DTA_int_01 | 1816.1967 | [Can you tell] me about these? Uh. | 1817.1968 |
1546 | | 1818.0301 | [Kind.] | 1818.2812 |
1547 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1818.0913 | [Well] um. One was | 1819.4386 |
1548 | | 1819.8249 | fella named | 1820.3611 |
1550 | | 1822.0258 | um, | 1822.3331 |
1552 | | 1822.7414 | /RD-NAME-3/, he was a | 1824.0832 |
1554 | | 1825.0945 | very good baritonist, | 1826.2526 |
1556 | | 1826.3437 | he played baritone very good, he and I used to pal around. | 1829.3905 |
1558 | | 1830.1563 | And uh | 1830.8961 |
1560 | | 1831.4913 | fellow named /RD-NAME-4/. He | 1833.4296 |
1562 | | 1833.9054 | played drums along with me | 1835.4200 |
1564 | | 1835.8612 | we'd become | 1836.4904 |
1566 | | 1836.7160 | attached. | 1837.3268 |
1568 | | 1838.8765 | Uh. | 1839.5993 |
1570 | | 1840.8373 | In fact, well I mean, I didn't- I didn't- uh, | 1842.8794 |
1572 | | 1843.5373 | I didn't, um, | 1844.2069 |
1574 | | 1845.3953 | go out very much until | 1846.6816 |
1576 | | 1847.2370 | after I graduated. I didn't do too much going around. | 1849.5548 |
1578 | | 1849.9960 | But we would- the- these, another fella named /RD-NAME-3/- | 1852.8115 |
1580 | | 1853.5450 | /RD-NAME-4/, I- we would | 1854.8415 |
1582 | | 1855.2827 | go around together, we would go to | 1856.7746 |
1584 | | 1857.3102 | circus, once in a while | 1858.7165 |
1586 | | 1859.2949 | the three of us. | 1860.0769 |
1588 | | 1860.6690 | And had a lot of fun | 1861.6986 |
1590 | | 1862.3911 | together. | 1862.9092 |
1592 | | 1863.9897 | Uh. | 1864.6175 |
1594 | | 1865.8570 | I wasn't even interested in dancing. When I was eighteen, I wasn't | 1868.7716 |
1595 | DTA_int_01 | 1869.1821 | Hm. | 1869.3577 |
1596 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1869.5838 | interested in that. I didn't start getting interested in girls until um, | 1872.5041 |
1598 | | 1873.1363 | after I come out of the service. | 1874.3900 |
1599 | DTA_int_01 | 1874.6175 | Hm. | 1874.7813 |
1600 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1876.1316 | Uh. | 1876.7682 |
1602 | | 1879.0684 | But uh, you mean during school? | 1880.6088 |
1603 | DTA_int_01 | 1880.8933 | Yeah. | 1881.1679 |
1604 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1881.1984 | During [school.] During high school. | 1882.9357 |
1605 | DTA_int_01 | 1881.6832 | [That's fine.] | 1882.1836 |
1606 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1883.3972 | [/Well, we would- we/ | 1883.9021 |
1607 | DTA_int_01 | 1883.3972 | [/inaudible/] | 1883.7518 |
1608 | | 1884.0799 | You did some things together and maybe had some interests, you know, common | 1887.0785 |
1610 | | 1887.1973 | interests. | 1887.6037 |
1611 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1890.4751 | Well, this- about the extent of it, we. | 1892.4244 |
1612 | DTA_int_01 | 1892.9688 | Were- were these guys mostly your age, or? | 1894.7749 |
1613 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1894.9439 | Yeah. Well, they were- | 1895.8469 |
1614 | DTA_int_01 | 1895.8964 | Hm. | 1896.1312 |
1615 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1896.1587 | Well yeah, | 1896.7577 |
1617 | | 1896.9122 | Both of them were. Maybe I was a year older than /RD-NAME-2/. | 1899.7247 |
1619 | | 1900.7169 | Uh-huh. | 1901.1383 |
1621 | | 1901.6728 | And /RD-NAME-3/, he and I were the same age. | 1903.6767 |
1623 | | 1904.7178 | Uh, we- | 1905.3105 |
1625 | | 1906.9456 | we would- every time we had football, was in the band, you know, we- | 1909.5855 |
1627 | | 1910.1222 | we had uniforms and every thing. We'd | 1911.6522 |
1629 | | 1911.9025 | every week there was football game, so the band had | 1914.1409 |
1631 | | 1914.2529 | to | 1914.5354 |
1633 | | 1915.0673 | you know how the band plays [before the-] | 1916.5762 |
1634 | DTA_int_01 | 1916.3050 | [Yeah.] | 1916.5762 |
1635 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1917.3137 | and so forth. | 1918.0733 |
1637 | | 1918.6445 | And we went all over city. | 1920.0363 |
1639 | | 1921.2109 | Playing, | 1921.6637 |
1641 | | 1922.0083 | following our team, you know, and so forth. | 1923.7878 |
1643 | | 1924.6332 | And, um, | 1925.2654 |
1645 | | 1925.7749 | after a football game, we, mm, | 1927.5925 |
1647 | | 1927.8883 | probably go to | 1928.9134 |
1649 | | 1929.1981 | White Tower, get a hamburger, something like that. | 1931.3174 |
1651 | | 1932.5672 | Uh. | 1933.0210 |
1653 | | 1934.2909 | We played baseball together, the three of us too, during the summer months too. | 1937.8114 |
1654 | DTA_int_01 | 1940.6933 | Um. What about | 1941.5327 |
1656 | | 1941.7149 | uh, | 1942.0294 |
1658 | | 1942.1281 | now? | 1942.6374 |
1660 | | 1942.8196 | Do you still see a lot of the same guys | 1944.9665 |
1662 | | 1945.1004 | around or? | 1945.9359 |
1664 | | 1946.1312 | Are you pretty much spread out? | 1947.6692 |
1665 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1948.1552 | Oh, well one fellow I see. /RD-NAME-5/. I forgot to mention him. | 1951.8625 |
1667 | | 1952.3937 | He and I graduated s- | 1953.6027 |
1669 | | 1953.9034 | together. | 1954.4555 |
1671 | | 1955.1832 | In the same class. | 1956.1403 |
1673 | | 1956.9217 | And, uh, | 1957.7669 |
1675 | | 1959.0974 | I see him | 1959.8086 |
1677 | | 1960.1796 | quite a bit and he's married now and | 1961.7236 |
1679 | | 1962.0784 | he comes over once in a while. | 1963.4306 |
1681 | | 1964.0960 | He and I were r- very close together. | 1966.1106 |
1683 | | 1966.3214 | In fact, we're very close today. He was only | 1968.5782 |
1685 | | 1968.8345 | one I would say is, uh, | 1969.8621 |
1687 | | 1970.2222 | from there, my high school days, that we're | 1972.1587 |
1689 | | 1972.8617 | uh, still in contact with one another. | 1974.6755 |
1690 | DTA_int_01 | 1975.0002 | [Hm.] | 1975.2514 |
1691 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1975.0055 | [He and] I we | 1975.6992 |
1692 | | 1976.5819 | have little parties- uh, not parties but a little | 1978.9658 |
1694 | | 1979.0954 | get togethers | 1979.8996 |
1696 | | 1980.0752 | he and his wife and | 1981.4143 |
1698 | | 1981.9951 | my family | 1982.8205 |
1700 | | 1983.8295 | And, uh, | 1984.5582 |
1702 | | 1985.6264 | he was about a year older than I, but he | 1987.3082 |
1704 | | 1987.5197 | graduated the same time that I did and we had a lot of | 1989.9125 |
1706 | | 1990.6404 | fun together, we- | 1991.6768 |
1708 | | 1991.7997 | when I did start to | 1993.0795 |
1710 | | 1993.9318 | go out, he and I went together | 1995.6689 |
1712 | | 1996.0114 | when you see him, you would see me. | 1997.4923 |
1713 | DTA_int_01 | 1997.6262 | Hm. | 1997.8281 |
1714 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 1998.2296 | And uh, I thought it'd- | 1999.6279 |
1716 | | 1999.8367 | I thought the world of him, you know, and I still do. | 2001.8452 |
1718 | | 2002.4500 | And his character, he's very popular. | 2004.3548 |
1720 | | 2005.2277 | Got a nice personality, but he was- | 2006.9448 |
1722 | | 2007.4054 | he was never pretty dumb | 2008.6455 |
1724 | | 2008.8979 | in school. | 2009.5038 |
1726 | | 2010.2304 | But uh | 2010.7199 |
1728 | | 2010.9507 | popularity, he could dance | 2012.3314 |
1730 | | 2012.8997 | better than anybody in the school. | 2014.3089 |
1731 | DTA_int_01 | 2014.4626 | Hm. | 2014.6580 |
1732 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2015.0202 | I mean the white girls and the- | 2016.4786 |
1734 | | 2016.9286 | I mean, the white and colored they- | 2018.1288 |
1736 | | 2018.5115 | he was just popular | 2019.3611 |
1737 | DTA_int_01 | 2019.6574 | Hm. | 2019.8176 |
1738 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2019.8176 | with everybody, just type of popularity he had. | 2021.9895 |
1739 | | 2022.8360 | Yeah. | 2023.0533 |
1741 | | 2023.5947 | And uh. | 2024.2914 |
1742 | DTA_int_01 | 2026.8997 | What about with the guys that you used to do things with in high school? | 2029.9046 |
1744 | | 2030.2514 | Were- did some of them speak other languages like | 2032.0352 |
1746 | | 2032.1845 | Polish or Hungarian or German? | 2034.3445 |
1748 | | 2034.4674 | /inaudible/ | 2035.0890 |
1749 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2035.0055 | You mean in school? | 2035.8682 |
1750 | DTA_int_01 | 2036.3207 | Well, I mean that- that- that they could- | 2037.7489 |
1752 | | 2038.0035 | they could speak other languages. | 2039.2106 |
1754 | | 2039.8121 | Th- | 2039.9650 |
1756 | | 2040.8418 | N-not necessarily in school, but | 2042.2698 |
1758 | | 2042.6627 | uh | 2042.9810 |
1760 | | 2043.4263 | you know, | 2043.8346 |
1762 | | 2044.5964 | Did they come from like Polish families or Hungarian families where they spoke these languages? | 2049.1011 |
1763 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2050.5186 | You mean just uh, socializing? Or just being in the cla- you know what I mean the- being in the class? | 2054.8708 |
1764 | DTA_int_01 | 2054.8708 | Well that too. | 2055.5260 |
1766 | | 2055.7279 | I mean, but [/inaudible/.] | 2057.0267 |
1767 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2056.5579 | [Well the-] generally, uh | 2058.1780 |
1768 | | 2058.2663 | like I know a lot of Polish myself. | 2059.9848 |
1769 | DTA_int_01 | 2060.1418 | [Mm.] | 2060.5140 |
1770 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2060.1692 | [And I] | 2060.8256 |
1771 | | 2060.9968 | picked it up from just being in a Polish town. That is- it is a Polish town out there in [Hamtramck.] | 2065.2065 |
1772 | DTA_int_01 | 2064.8430 | [Mm-hm.] | 2065.2761 |
1773 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2066.0226 | Yeah, they'd speak it f- | 2067.1017 |
1775 | | 2067.3081 | frequently you know, and we would | 2068.7346 |
1777 | | 2068.8378 | talk or- | 2069.2478 |
1779 | | 2069.3487 | like he would talk to me and | 2070.7207 |
1781 | | 2071.0324 | you know, | 2071.4207 |
1783 | | 2071.7744 | Like he said /dzien dobry panu/ (Polish language) | 2073.4232 |
1785 | | 2073.8578 | [I said-] uh, | 2074.8489 |
1786 | DTA_int_01 | 2073.8578 | [Mm-hm.] | 2074.1649 |
1787 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2075.8455 | He said /dzien dobry/ (Polish language). I said, | 2077.3459 |
1789 | | 2078.0563 | /dobry/, (Polish language) | 2078.5524 |
1791 | | 2078.8444 | /dobry/, (Polish language) | 2079.3997 |
1793 | | 2080.3381 | And he said /jak sie masz/ (Polish language), and I said /dobry/. (Polish language) | 2082.2444 |
1794 | DTA_int_01 | 2082.7429 | Uh-huh. | 2083.0753 |
1795 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2083.0753 | I say, /czesc ? panie/ (Polish language) | 2084.3410 |
1796 | | 2084.5078 | You know, how are you. | 2085.4899 |
1797 | DTA_int_01 | 2085.7643 | Uh-huh. | 2085.9969 |
1798 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2086.2296 | And I said /dobry/. (Polish language) | 2087.0418 |
1800 | | 2087.1988 | You know. | 2087.4734 |
1802 | | 2088.1026 | Then we'd say uh, | 2089.0978 |
1804 | | 2089.3415 | /Idz do domu/ /?/ (Polish language) | 2090.9001 |
1806 | | 2091.0493 | That means | 2091.5531 |
1807 | DTA_int_01 | 2091.6431 | Hm. | 2091.7441 |
1808 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2091.7770 | go home. | 2092.3192 |
1809 | DTA_int_01 | 2092.5456 | <laugh> | 2093.1369 |
1810 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2093.4574 | Yeah. | 2093.8218 |
1812 | | 2093.9288 | /unintelligible/ | 2094.8551 |
1814 | | 2095.7812 | Curse words that he was saying to me. | 2097.6408 |
1816 | | 2098.5518 | But um. | 2099.1781 |
1817 | DTA_int_01 | 2099.5224 | That sounds like you | 2100.3106 |
1819 | | 2100.6991 | did alright. | 2101.0943 |
1821 | | 2101.2062 | <laugh> | 2101.6760 |
1822 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2101.6760 | Yeah, I know quite a bit of 'em, uh | 2103.4716 |
1823 | | 2103.9427 | like he'd say- call you /tis swinia/. (Polish language) | 2106.4043 |
1825 | | 2106.8115 | Say you dirty pig. | 2107.9398 |
1826 | DTA_int_01 | 2108.0913 | <laugh> | 2108.5808 |
1827 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2110.4420 | Know a couple of 'em I think about it | 2112.1340 |
1828 | DTA_int_01 | 2112.4322 | Huh. | 2112.5858 |
1829 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2113.0841 | Well, uh, yeah. There's the Polish- um, I don't remember | 2116.0385 |
1831 | | 2116.3996 | any other | 2117.3457 |
1833 | | 2117.9340 | uh | 2118.4633 |
1835 | | 2119.3875 | descent | 2119.9428 |
1837 | | 2120.1201 | that would speak | 2121.3319 |
1839 | | 2121.7878 | the lang- but the Polish, because that was a | 2123.7091 |
1841 | | 2123.8123 | Polish | 2124.2255 |
1842 | DTA_int_01 | 2124.3880 | Oh, yeah. | 2124.7304 |
1843 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2124.9100 | town | 2125.3550 |
1845 | | 2125.5087 | out there. | 2126.0080 |
1846 | DTA_int_01 | 2126.9667 | What about whe- in your group, was there one guy they would kind of consider the ruler- or the | 2131.0500 |
1848 | | 2131.1641 | not the ruler. The leader. | 2132.3353 |
1850 | | 2132.9403 | And they kind of looked up to him or | 2134.6999 |
1852 | | 2135.1135 | and uh. | 2135.6008 |
1854 | | 2136.1718 | Uh. | 2136.3847 |
1856 | | 2136.9291 | Relied on him for decisions and stuff like this? | 2139.1833 |
1857 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2140.6995 | Well, in high school, I- I guess you would say, I well, you know had a | 2144.0518 |
1859 | | 2144.3152 | guy named /RD-NAME-4/. | 2145.6899 |
1861 | | 2146.7589 | When he was a- | 2147.5829 |
1863 | | 2149.3651 | pretty popular. He was pre- pretty good in football. | 2151.8804 |
1865 | | 2153.0104 | And | 2153.5723 |
1867 | | 2155.1838 | every time they would have a | 2156.5056 |
1869 | | 2156.7910 | m- uh, | 2157.3419 |
1871 | | 2158.5913 | I forget what kind of meetings they called 'em. When you have a general meeting | 2161.5528 |
1873 | | 2162.2187 | he would be- | 2162.8224 |
1875 | | 2163.5424 | uh, | 2163.9397 |
1877 | | 2165.2634 | he would be about, uh, what I would say my uh, estimation, a leader because he would | 2169.3170 |
1879 | | 2169.8328 | suggest something, everybody would follow him. | 2171.9404 |
1880 | DTA_int_01 | 2172.1805 | Hm. | 2172.3210 |
1881 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2172.6876 | But I think it was | 2173.4822 |
1883 | | 2174.0332 | well not because he had a | 2175.2790 |
1885 | | 2176.7593 | uh, good decisive power, uh, know | 2179.1471 |
1887 | | 2179.5598 | what- | 2179.7112 |
1889 | | 2180.9431 | forthcoming and so forth, but because he was | 2182.9647 |
1891 | | 2183.0437 | popular, | 2183.4915 |
1892 | DTA_int_01 | 2183.7442 | Hm. | 2183.9638 |
1893 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2184.0274 | you know, and everybody likes the hero, he always | 2186.8819 |
1895 | | 2187.2046 | make a touchdown. | 2188.0058 |
1897 | | 2188.7124 | Something like that. | 2189.4148 |
1898 | DTA_int_01 | 2189.9263 | Hm. | 2190.1477 |
1899 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2190.2772 | He's the only one I can think of right now. | 2192.0317 |
1901 | | 2193.7744 | Mm-hm. | 2194.0679 |
1902 | DTA_int_01 | 2194.3912 | Um. | 2194.6941 |
1904 | | 2195.0805 | Now, whe- when you were in, uh, well, let's say in high school, you were- | 2198.5935 |
1906 | | 2199.1706 | what did you, uh, want to be when you finished | 2201.1731 |
1908 | | 2201.2872 | your education? | 2202.2660 |
1910 | | 2202.4403 | /to/ | 2202.6463 |
1911 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2202.6523 | I wanted to be a musician. | 2203.7782 |
1912 | DTA_int_01 | 2204.1513 | Uh-huh. | 2204.3862 |
1913 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2204.5377 | Mm-hm. | 2204.8867 |
1915 | | 2205.4575 | But I was- | 2206.3042 |
1917 | | 2207.1537 | I went far with drum- fact, I got a set of drums up in the attic right [now.] | 2210.8775 |
1918 | DTA_int_01 | 2210.7545 | [Hm.] | 2211.0048 |
1919 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2211.0334 | When I bought- | 2211.7032 |
1921 | | 2211.8766 | with my | 2212.5508 |
1923 | | 2212.7906 | first job I had | 2213.7167 |
1925 | | 2214.5179 | I paid for it, eleven dollars a week. | 2216.1738 |
1926 | DTA_int_01 | 2216.5382 | Huh. | 2216.7380 |
1927 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2216.7781 | Paid f- | 2217.0453 |
1929 | | 2217.5038 | Mm-hm. | 2217.8002 |
1930 | DTA_int_01 | 2217.8968 | How long would it have taken to become a | 2219.5530 |
1932 | | 2219.8389 | become a professional musician? | 2221.3733 |
1933 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2221.6499 | Pardon? | 2221.9509 |
1934 | DTA_int_01 | 2222.3833 | How long would have taken to become a [professional musician?] | 2225.1881 |
1935 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2224.4975 | [Wouldn't've long] if I had pursued it. | 2226.3340 |
1936 | | 2226.9715 | Uh. | 2227.4763 |
1938 | | 2228.4886 | I lost interest in it when I went in the service. [I- um,] | 2231.1214 |
1939 | DTA_int_01 | 2230.7053 | [Oh.] | 2231.0785 |
1940 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2231.9937 | um, | 2232.4239 |
1942 | | 2232.7466 | I got pretty good with it, you know, I- we had a little | 2235.3121 |
1944 | | 2235.9309 | temporary band. A little | 2237.0768 |
1946 | | 2237.2063 | make up band we had | 2238.3744 |
1948 | | 2238.4668 | from the fellows that were in the- in the um | 2240.7912 |
1950 | | 2241.6029 | band and orchestra with me. | 2242.9200 |
1951 | DTA_int_01 | 2243.1423 | [Uh-huh.] | 2243.3934 |
1952 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2243.3091 | [we] would meet on | 2244.1292 |
1953 | | 2244.4607 | we met at the /RD-SCHOOL-4/ Junior High School. | 2247.0317 |
1954 | DTA_int_01 | 2247.2351 | Huh. | 2247.4093 |
1955 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2247.4817 | And they were nice enough to give us a room for- | 2249.6675 |
1957 | | 2250.3305 | for practice. | 2251.1808 |
1959 | | 2251.8937 | And we | 2252.2712 |
1961 | | 2252.8288 | played maybe one or two little parties and that when I got called from some other groups | 2257.3357 |
1963 | | 2258.0996 | to sit in with 'em, you know, and [play with] 'em, /some/ nights. | 2260.8712 |
1964 | DTA_int_01 | 2259.7068 | [Hm.] | 2259.9702 |
1965 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2261.5243 | But when I went in the service, | 2262.7250 |
1967 | | 2263.7444 | um, | 2264.1768 |
1969 | | 2264.3700 | went up in Fort Sheridan. | 2265.4895 |
1971 | | 2266.6277 | Fort Sheridan, Illinois. | 2267.9777 |
1973 | | 2268.0853 | That's where the in- uh, the um | 2269.7415 |
1975 | | 2270.2376 | reception center at that time was. | 2271.9221 |
1977 | | 2272.5947 | Uh, | 2273.1061 |
1979 | | 2273.2507 | I had the chance to sit in an orchestra and play. | 2275.7071 |
1981 | | 2276.3722 | And at the same time, I had taken a | 2277.9782 |
1983 | | 2278.1451 | uh | 2278.5388 |
1985 | | 2278.8132 | musical test before, | 2280.0842 |
1987 | | 2280.5759 | to get in the special services. | 2281.8683 |
1989 | | 2282.4873 | And this was | 2283.1481 |
1991 | | 2283.2534 | what I had in my mind | 2284.2604 |
1993 | | 2284.4009 | banked on, you know. | 2285.2395 |
1995 | | 2286.0627 | And I passed the test and everything, and the- this- | 2288.7761 |
1997 | | 2288.9166 | the guys that gave me the test, they told me they were- | 2291.1864 |
1999 | | 2291.7332 | I would be hearing from 'em. This was in- | 2293.7223 |
2001 | | 2294.3589 | in uh, | 2295.0504 |
2003 | | 2295.8724 | um, | 2296.5332 |
2005 | | 2297.1829 | January of nineteen forty-four. | 2299.2285 |
2006 | DTA_int_01 | 2299.6232 | Hm. | 2299.9612 |
2007 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2300.4825 | And uh, so I had my hopes high. Wrote my mother and told 'em about- about it, you know, that I'm- | 2305.2635 |
2009 | | 2305.3974 | I might be able to get into special service into- | 2307.7723 |
2011 | | 2308.9407 | uh, in the uh | 2309.9329 |
2013 | | 2310.1554 | band or orchestra with the | 2311.6623 |
2015 | | 2311.7677 | Army. | 2312.1826 |
2017 | | 2313.6407 | When I w- uh | 2314.5435 |
2019 | | 2315.2745 | uh, about | 2315.9895 |
2021 | | 2316.4746 | I'd say two weeks later | 2317.8524 |
2023 | | 2317.9424 | we | 2318.2914 |
2025 | | 2318.3858 | got shipped out down in Camp Lee Virginia. | 2320.3858 |
2027 | | 2320.9434 | So, uh, | 2321.6925 |
2029 | | 2323.0108 | we were in the process of learning us how to march | 2324.9215 |
2031 | | 2325.6020 | you know | 2325.9568 |
2033 | | 2326.0732 | and so forth. | 2326.6768 |
2035 | | 2327.3397 | And | 2327.7876 |
2037 | | 2328.1454 | through our conversation, they- the uh, | 2330.1188 |
2039 | | 2330.6794 | uh, | 2331.3072 |
2041 | | 2332.0865 | commander heard that I had | 2333.2545 |
2043 | | 2333.5948 | little musical | 2334.2380 |
2045 | | 2334.3214 | training, that I was a drummer. | 2335.3819 |
2046 | DTA_int_01 | 2335.5444 | Mm-hm | 2335.7889 |
2047 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2336.1502 | So he purchased a drum, a ba- field drum. | 2338.4546 |
2049 | | 2338.6587 | [The field drum's] a deep one. | 2339.8518 |
2050 | DTA_int_01 | 2338.7897 | [Oh.] | 2339.1497 |
2051 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2340.5765 | And uh, to learn this | 2342.0400 |
2053 | | 2342.5559 | our company had a march, I would | 2343.8702 |
2055 | | 2344.1183 | play the- | 2344.6144 |
2057 | | 2344.8646 | I played the drums. | 2345.7520 |
2059 | | 2346.4240 | And so forth, but I f- feeling pretty good. I'm uh | 2348.7520 |
2061 | | 2348.9276 | still got my mind on this | 2350.4241 |
2063 | | 2350.7361 | special service. | 2351.5636 |
2065 | | 2352.0729 | And they never- | 2352.7951 |
2067 | | 2352.9115 | I never heard from 'em. | 2353.8795 |
2068 | DTA_int_01 | 2353.9827 | You didn't hear anything at all? | 2354.9206 |
2069 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2355.2389 | Never heard a thing. | 2356.2478 |
2071 | | 2356.5924 | In fact, this was in nineteen forty-four, January when I went to Camp Lee. | 2360.2139 |
2073 | | 2360.7358 | Um. | 2361.2823 |
2075 | | 2362.7086 | July- | 2363.6262 |
2077 | | 2363.7733 | on July the fourth, we were on a train going to Seattle, Washington, be shipped out to Hawaii. | 2368.6223 |
2078 | DTA_int_01 | 2368.9780 | Hm. | 2369.1799 |
2079 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2369.4850 | In six months. | 2370.2599 |
2081 | | 2371.2255 | So I, uh, | 2371.9414 |
2083 | | 2372.1689 | forgot all about it. | 2373.0590 |
2084 | DTA_int_01 | 2373.5150 | Hm. | 2373.6972 |
2086 | | 2375.6317 | Um. | 2375.9961 |
2088 | | 2376.7087 | If yo- if you could do- uh, if you could do it all over again, what would you want to be? | 2380.3993 |
2090 | | 2380.7001 | /inaudible/ | 2381.2006 |
2091 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2381.6557 | What uh, my life all over [again?] | 2383.2208 |
2092 | DTA_int_01 | 2382.9523 | [Yeah.] | 2383.1938 |
2093 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2385.4708 | Well, I know one thing, I would | 2386.6277 |
2095 | | 2387.2399 | try to further my education. | 2388.5965 |
2096 | DTA_int_01 | 2388.8522 | Uh-huh. | 2389.0495 |
2097 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2389.3897 | I would. | 2389.7563 |
2098 | DTA_int_01 | 2390.0702 | You completed high school [then?] | 2391.4147 |
2099 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2391.3642 | [I] did complete high school, but I would try to | 2393.3193 |
2100 | | 2393.8022 | go to college like my mother wanted me to go. I did- never did go, she wanted me to. | 2397.1545 |
2101 | DTA_int_01 | 2397.3411 | Hm. | 2397.6023 |
2102 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2398.0589 | At the time, I- | 2398.9852 |
2104 | | 2399.7030 | I could have gotten a scholarship for- | 2401.5560 |
2106 | | 2401.7777 | I don't know what I- what it was about but | 2403.2468 |
2108 | | 2403.5783 | my father died when I was twelve. | 2405.1349 |
2110 | | 2406.0215 | But it's something | 2406.9302 |
2112 | | 2407.2024 | they had worked out down there with the welfare and everything when we were on welfare. | 2411.1339 |
2114 | | 2411.8822 | That they were | 2412.4815 |
2116 | | 2412.7734 | gonna send me to college if I wanted to. | 2414.8127 |
2117 | DTA_int_01 | 2415.0388 | Hm. | 2415.2495 |
2118 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2415.4405 | She asked me, I remember when she asked me did I want to go, I told her no, and when I got out of high school, I was | 2419.8750 |
2120 | | 2420.3895 | I said, that's it for me. | 2421.4750 |
2121 | DTA_int_01 | 2421.5452 | Hm. | 2421.7318 |
2122 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2422.4013 | I thought that it was sissies that- that went to college, but I know differently now. | 2426.3468 |
2124 | | 2426.6851 | That you can have your cake and eat it too. | 2428.3880 |
2126 | | 2429.1492 | See. | 2429.4856 |
2127 | DTA_int_01 | 2429.8693 | Hm. | 2430.0462 |
2128 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2430.0986 | But I would | 2430.6298 |
2130 | | 2430.9283 | definitely | 2431.6546 |
2132 | | 2432.5308 | further my education. | 2433.7579 |
2134 | | 2434.2496 | I would go on to college and, uh, | 2435.9892 |
2136 | | 2436.7696 | and I would- | 2437.2745 |
2138 | | 2438.8616 | would like to be a musician. | 2440.1180 |
2139 | DTA_int_01 | 2440.4719 | Hm. | 2440.7099 |
2140 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2440.9906 | Mm-hm. | 2441.3567 |
2141 | DTA_int_01 | 2441.6923 | Um. | 2442.0674 |
2143 | | 2442.2688 | If you had all the money you could ever want, uh, what would you do with it? | 2445.0908 |
2144 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2445.8874 | Right now? | 2446.3831 |
2145 | DTA_int_01 | 2446.5113 | Yeah. | 2446.7249 |
2146 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2446.8591 | Just a blank statement? | 2448.1039 |
2147 | DTA_int_01 | 2448.2504 | Yeah. | 2448.4762 |
2148 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2449.4782 | Well, I would | 2450.1250 |
2150 | | 2450.8694 | send my wife to a doctor, she's got an illness right now that- | 2453.6383 |
2152 | | 2454.1786 | that's what I would do first. | 2455.6187 |
2154 | | 2456.3387 | She went to several doctors, she's got something called neurodermatitis. | 2460.3073 |
2156 | | 2460.5819 | It's itching. | 2461.2776 |
2157 | DTA_int_01 | 2461.4668 | Hm. | 2461.7414 |
2158 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2462.3333 | And, uh, she's- gets carried away, and she's very strong person to | 2465.6088 |
2160 | | 2465.8650 | endure it. | 2466.3471 |
2162 | | 2466.7743 | But if I had all the money in the world, that's I would try to find a good specialist | 2469.9612 |
2164 | | 2470.3823 | for her. | 2470.7972 |
2166 | | 2471.4963 | We've been to doctors all over, here and there, | 2473.5288 |
2168 | | 2474.2794 | you know, with the money we've- well, we- we're in this uh, | 2476.7888 |
2170 | | 2476.9791 | community health association plan out of CHC Metropolitan | 2480.3693 |
2171 | DTA_int_01 | 2480.5585 | Oh. | 2480.7782 |
2172 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2480.7965 | Hospital over here now and | 2482.2566 |
2174 | | 2482.7509 | so. | 2483.3292 |
2176 | | 2483.4361 | I just joined this plan. I work at a Post Office, | 2485.7115 |
2178 | | 2485.8579 | [so the] government pays a | 2487.1699 |
2179 | DTA_int_01 | 2485.8579 | [Mm-hm.] | 2486.2179 |
2180 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2487.6031 | portion of it. | 2488.1530 |
2182 | | 2489.1293 | And um | 2489.7517 |
2184 | | 2490.7403 | she- uh, before I was laid off from work, back in- we were living down in the- in the projects | 2495.2371 |
2186 | | 2496.0670 | in the- in the | 2496.8907 |
2188 | | 2497.3728 | when I laid off from work, she was able to get care down in Receiving Hospital, this out patient | 2501.0121 |
2190 | | 2501.4332 | and they did pretty good wi- with her you know. | 2503.6137 |
2192 | | 2504.0897 | But, uh, | 2504.6450 |
2194 | | 2504.9440 | wasn't a- is- told her wasn't any cure, you know, for definite. | 2509.0827 |
2196 | | 2509.2657 | They did more for her | 2510.1150 |
2198 | | 2510.4079 | then she's getting done for her now. | 2512.0738 |
2200 | | 2512.5497 | I was laid off from work | 2513.5720 |
2202 | | 2514.0479 | but it- just what I'm trying to say, now we are with this plan, | 2516.7573 |
2204 | | 2517.6351 | this hospital plan over here an- and she go to the dermat- dermatitis- | 2522.1180 |
2206 | | 2522.3476 | dermatitis specialist. | 2523.4942 |
2207 | DTA_int_01 | 2523.7567 | Mm-hm. | 2524.0374 |
2208 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2524.5743 | And sh- | 2525.3096 |
2210 | | 2525.4957 | he discourages and | 2526.6706 |
2212 | | 2527.0185 | well, you know there's no cure for you. | 2528.8176 |
2214 | | 2529.0006 | Point blank. There wa- no- nothing to go on y- | 2531.2889 |
2216 | | 2531.8407 | and she feels so bad. | 2533.2930 |
2218 | | 2533.8515 | Then her aunt- | 2534.6409 |
2220 | | 2534.8349 | her aunt | 2535.3410 |
2222 | | 2535.8109 | had something similar to her, but it wasn't- wasn't as serious. | 2538.9963 |
2224 | | 2539.7530 | And she recommended her doctor that's over there. She- she went to him | 2543.5784 |
2226 | | 2544.0910 | so she | 2544.4693 |
2228 | | 2544.6800 | he told her the same thing, you know. | 2546.3520 |
2230 | | 2547.5694 | So this is one of these things. It's a nervous condition that she's get a scratching mood she just you know, can't stop. | 2554.0193 |
2232 | | 2554.9184 | But this is what I would do | 2556.0595 |
2234 | | 2556.5050 | if I got | 2557.0542 |
2236 | | 2558.7580 | any money, i- to any- any extent, you know. | 2561.3413 |
2237 | DTA_int_01 | 2562.5339 | Uh. | 2562.8917 |
2239 | | 2563.1319 | Uh, can you describe | 2564.4154 |
2241 | | 2564.9219 | briefly, uh | 2565.6908 |
2243 | | 2566.1850 | what your | 2567.0721 |
2245 | | 2567.2305 | days activity is? | 2568.5451 |
2247 | | 2568.6718 | Like at your job? | 2569.7148 |
2248 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2571.1427 | At my job. At my [present job?] | 2572.5126 |
2249 | DTA_int_01 | 2572.1282 | [Yeah. at] your job. [Mm-hm.] | 2573.3181 |
2250 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2573.2191 | [Yeah.] Well, uh | 2574.1222 |
2251 | | 2574.8605 | I'm a postal clerk and, uh, I sort mail. | 2577.2329 |
2253 | | 2578.0611 | I work in the parcel postal section at the postal service, | 2580.7505 |
2255 | | 2581.4461 | and uh, I have one job and, uh, | 2583.3105 |
2257 | | 2584.0855 | the three fellas and I alternate on | 2585.8518 |
2259 | | 2585.9739 | each week. | 2586.4946 |
2261 | | 2586.9400 | There's a different fellow on this job. It's called a | 2588.9490 |
2263 | | 2589.3173 | exchange case where all the | 2591.0609 |
2265 | | 2591.9518 | uh, firm mail is handled. Like Kresge's, JL Hudson, | 2596.3262 |
2267 | | 2596.9243 | Chrysler, | 2597.4918 |
2269 | | 2597.7969 | uh, | 2598.3583 |
2271 | | 2598.5413 | Parke Davis, | 2599.3184 |
2273 | | 2599.5808 | Crowley Milner, | 2600.4839 |
2275 | | 2600.9886 | Burroughs- | 2601.6494 |
2277 | | 2602.3396 | Burroughs Adding Machine, | 2603.6150 |
2279 | | 2604.1765 | uh, American Motors. All these firms in the city, they have a lot of mail that they handle. | 2608.3126 |
2281 | | 2608.8008 | These people uh, uh re- | 2610.3569 |
2283 | | 2610.5582 | prefer to pick their mail up themselves. | 2612.7663 |
2284 | DTA_int_01 | 2612.8676 | Hm. | 2613.0812 |
2285 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2613.3745 | You know, without the post office deliver. Well I work in this section. | 2616.0241 |
2286 | DTA_int_01 | 2616.2011 | Oh, I see. | 2616.7921 |
2287 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2616.8601 | And um, | 2617.5373 |
2289 | | 2617.7509 | what I do is- uh, | 2618.8188 |
2291 | | 2619.4534 | when I have- my time to work on this exchange case, my week | 2622.5485 |
2293 | | 2622.9893 | well, I deliver | 2623.7887 |
2295 | | 2624.8973 | mail to these | 2625.8249 |
2297 | | 2626.0262 | callers when they come in. | 2627.2161 |
2299 | | 2627.9648 | And this is just the set up | 2629.7875 |
2301 | | 2629.9185 | where the- all their mail is | 2631.3669 |
2303 | | 2631.6110 | all processed and everything. So, when they come in, they might have | 2634.3010 |
2305 | | 2634.7038 | some insured mail they'll have to sign for to certify it, | 2637.3416 |
2307 | | 2637.6528 | uh, register it, | 2638.4095 |
2309 | | 2638.7024 | they will have to sign for it and I have to give it to 'em. | 2640.7231 |
2311 | | 2641.3575 | And this is one part of it and the other part of my | 2643.6104 |
2313 | | 2643.9765 | work starts off if I'm not down on this exchange case | 2646.9269 |
2315 | | 2647.4639 | starts off by, um, | 2648.6965 |
2317 | | 2649.4471 | well, we have to get our mail | 2651.0707 |
2319 | | 2652.5841 | uh, | 2653.2676 |
2321 | | 2654.4237 | we got | 2654.8143 |
2323 | | 2655.1804 | lay out on the floor and | 2656.6809 |
2325 | | 2657.4975 | say for one station we'll have | 2659.0902 |
2327 | | 2660.1831 | uh, maybe twenty sections | 2662.0817 |
2329 | | 2662.9055 | and we have some mail that | 2664.0161 |
2331 | | 2664.8892 | well, this is automatic s- | 2665.9510 |
2333 | | 2666.3843 | post office work now. It's a new one down there- | 2668.0907 |
2335 | | 2668.7010 | the mail comes down the chute, see that's- whatever the midnight shift has left, we have to work it up. | 2672.9984 |
2337 | | 2673.6635 | So we have to | 2674.5651 |
2339 | | 2674.7005 | pick up a package and it's got | 2676.1288 |
2341 | | 2677.0746 | ninety-three seventy-six Otsego. | 2678.8241 |
2343 | | 2679.3672 | So, we got to look on a board, see what section this goes into | 2682.4534 |
2344 | DTA_int_01 | 2682.5083 | Hm. | 2682.7707 |
2345 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2683.0833 | Ninety-three seventy-six, might be- go between ninety-three seventy-six and ninety | 2686.7122 |
2347 | | 2687.1821 | eight hundred would go into section four. | 2689.0041 |
2349 | | 2689.7729 | So, this package would go into section four. You'd throw it into that sack. | 2692.6349 |
2351 | | 2693.0071 | So when that sack gets full, | 2694.3740 |
2353 | | 2695.3071 | we got to count these pieces | 2696.7865 |
2355 | | 2696.9634 | each one. | 2697.5736 |
2357 | | 2697.7689 | Take 'em back out. And this is something I'm working out now, trying to get some money on how to eliminate this | 2701.7026 |
2359 | | 2701.9894 | cause it's a waste of time. | 2702.7951 |
2361 | | 2703.0514 | After we fill up a sack | 2704.3584 |
2363 | | 2705.0174 | we got to | 2705.4635 |
2365 | | 2705.5917 | s- count all these pieces, | 2707.1925 |
2367 | | 2707.7295 | one, two, then we got ten pieces, and then we got a label | 2710.1354 |
2369 | | 2710.7354 | and this is section four. | 2711.9904 |
2371 | | 2712.6190 | You put section four on a label | 2714.2308 |
2373 | | 2714.7189 | and we put the ten pieces right along side | 2717.2452 |
2375 | | 2717.6846 | on the label | 2718.4543 |
2377 | | 2718.7960 | designating this. | 2719.5856 |
2379 | | 2719.9761 | And we do this for the twenty section that we got. | 2722.0546 |
2381 | | 2722.8263 | So when we get through counting all- these are the parcels that go in the sack, then we have some | 2727.3115 |
2383 | | 2727.7020 | outside parcels too big to go in the | 2729.8753 |
2385 | | 2730.1941 | sack. | 2730.5686 |
2387 | | 2731.1484 | So we have a sheet, a worksheet | 2732.7879 |
2389 | | 2732.9832 | that we have to record all this on, /to/ record | 2735.4828 |
2391 | | 2735.8490 | all the outside pieces from one to twenty. | 2738.0178 |
2393 | | 2738.7501 | Section one has how many outside, we have four pieces, you mark four. | 2742.0880 |
2395 | | 2742.4724 | S- section two has section- ten, we mark ten. | 2745.4366 |
2397 | | 2745.8271 | And we go all the way around | 2746.9112 |
2399 | | 2747.8957 | And then | 2748.4404 |
2401 | | 2748.6479 | we get through the outside, let me get to the sacks that we were working with. | 2751.5769 |
2403 | | 2752.1933 | So we count | 2752.9232 |
2405 | | 2753.0936 | section one has | 2754.3596 |
2407 | | 2755.4458 | four pieces in this sack, | 2756.6522 |
2409 | | 2756.9361 | put these under the /work/ | 2758.0607 |
2411 | | 2758.2682 | sack pieces. | 2759.1286 |
2413 | | 2759.7913 | Two and so forth. | 2760.8775 |
2414 | DTA_int_01 | 2761.0239 | Hm. | 2761.2802 |
2415 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2761.4769 | Now this sheet is turned into, | 2763.4540 |
2417 | | 2763.7337 | uh, | 2764.1670 |
2419 | | 2764.6552 | special part in the post office | 2766.4469 |
2421 | | 2767.1731 | and now, for- this is for- | 2768.8024 |
2423 | | 2769.1868 | this process is for- is to | 2770.8771 |
2425 | | 2771.7533 | uh, say they got | 2772.6809 |
2427 | | 2773.0058 | four carriers is gonna deliver this mail in this one station. | 2776.4108 |
2428 | DTA_int_01 | 2776.6244 | Mm-hm. | 2776.8990 |
2429 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2777.1980 | So it's gonna be equally- say if we got | 2779.8096 |
2431 | | 2780.5418 | four hundred pieces. | 2781.5180 |
2433 | | 2782.2625 | So these pieces gotta be distributed among these four carriers. | 2785.2038 |
2435 | | 2785.9177 | So that's so they're not- | 2786.8194 |
2437 | | 2786.9373 | one won't get no more than the other, one won't get too much. | 2789.4470 |
2438 | DTA_int_01 | 2789.6240 | Mm-hm. | 2789.8132 |
2439 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2789.8132 | So this is what it is. | 2790.7039 |
2440 | | 2790.9310 | And each station is different. | 2792.3283 |
2442 | | 2792.5662 | Some has more pieces. | 2793.8294 |
2444 | | 2794.1772 | Some has less. | 2795.0071 |
2446 | | 2795.8039 | So after this phase is through | 2797.4027 |
2448 | | 2799.5661 | we get our | 2800.4192 |
2450 | | 2801.5079 | after this, uh, worksheet goes in, | 2803.6437 |
2452 | | 2804.3373 | <ts> | 2804.4203 |
2454 | | 2804.9050 | they give us some what we call a- cut | 2806.3812 |
2456 | | 2806.5733 | sheets. | 2807.1022 |
2458 | | 2808.3788 | some- this first cut will be sections one to five. | 2811.9607 |
2460 | | 2812.5913 | Mark that on the floor. | 2813.7629 |
2462 | | 2814.3240 | One to five. Have a steel truck | 2816.1544 |
2464 | | 2816.5345 | right there. | 2817.0064 |
2466 | | 2817.3603 | Other one will be six | 2818.4872 |
2468 | | 2818.9433 | to ten. | 2819.5795 |
2470 | | 2819.8741 | Other one will be | 2820.5773 |
2472 | | 2820.7738 | ten to eleven. | 2821.6681 |
2474 | | 2822.2809 | And twelve to twenty. | 2823.4403 |
2476 | | 2823.6661 | We have four trucks. | 2824.5361 |
2478 | | 2825.0426 | So everything | 2826.0677 |
2480 | | 2826.6047 | for section one to five | 2828.0955 |
2482 | | 2828.2847 | will go on that first truck. | 2829.4244 |
2484 | | 2829.7145 | Pull 'em off the rack | 2830.5533 |
2486 | | 2831.0537 | and go right on down on the line. | 2832.2073 |
2488 | | 2832.5097 | And all the outside pieces will do the same thing. | 2835.1278 |
2490 | | 2835.7500 | And so then | 2836.4794 |
2492 | | 2836.6506 | this is all set. So, the carrier is supposed to get one to five, he come there he sees his | 2840.2794 |
2494 | | 2840.7493 | his sacks, he sees his outside pieces | 2842.7205 |
2496 | | 2843.7395 | push them out on the dock, | 2844.6609 |
2498 | | 2845.4156 | and he goes on about his business. | 2846.5139 |
2499 | DTA_int_01 | 2846.7007 | [Hm.] | 2846.8808 |
2500 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2846.8442 | [So] that's the first phase of it. And then after that, uh, | 2849.3001 |
2501 | | 2849.6357 | what we do then, we have to sack these racks up all over the floor | 2852.6995 |
2503 | | 2853.7125 | all over, it takes about two hours, the whole crew. | 2856.4048 |
2504 | DTA_int_01 | 2856.8136 | [Hm.] | 2856.9922 |
2505 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2856.8155 | [And we] sack our racks back up, | 2858.2951 |
2506 | | 2858.7589 | then we have the sorting machines that uh, we work on. | 2861.6435 |
2508 | | 2862.1561 | These are automatic sorters that | 2863.8291 |
2510 | | 2864.7444 | oh, | 2865.0373 |
2512 | | 2865.6313 | one man will go up | 2866.4184 |
2514 | | 2866.6320 | for one hour | 2867.4558 |
2516 | | 2868.2327 | to sort | 2868.7453 |
2518 | | 2869.1176 | mail. | 2869.4715 |
2520 | | 2870.3807 | You know, | 2870.5699 |
2522 | | 2871.0275 | [the mail] comes up on a conveyer | 2872.6141 |
2523 | DTA_int_01 | 2871.0338 | [Hm.] | 2871.2962 |
2524 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2873.0261 | right /for/ to a keyboard and you- | 2874.7103 |
2526 | | 2875.6933 | you work the keyboard here, you hit a button | 2877.8900 |
2528 | | 2878.1891 | push it | 2878.5003 |
2530 | | 2878.7018 | five | 2879.2996 |
2532 | | 2879.8508 | thirty-nine | 2880.6746 |
2534 | | 2880.9065 | four | 2881.4923 |
2536 | | 2882.0415 | eight, | 2882.4808 |
2538 | | 2883.0605 | so forth [and this goes] right on the | 2884.4546 |
2539 | DTA_int_01 | 2883.5141 | [Uh.] | 2883.8498 |
2540 | DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 | 2884.7720 | and this you should see it sometime. | 2886.1327 |