Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	DTA_int_08	1.1118	Okay.	1.4511
2	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2.1326	/RD-NAME-5/.	3.5251
3	DTA_int_08	3.6779	Mm-hm. Count to ten out loud.	5.0287
4	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	5.8161	/RD-NAME-4/.	6.9298
5	DTA_int_08	7.2860	Count to ten.	8.0348
6	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	8.6449	One.	9.3354
8		9.6696	Two.	10.0966
10		10.6528	Three.	11.1112
12		11.7733	Four.	12.2439
14		12.9076	Five.	13.6314
16		14.2579	Six.	14.9353
18		15.4884	Seven.	16.1455
20		16.9706	Eight.	17.4718
22		18.0453	Nine.	18.6840
24		19.1699	Ten.	19.6986
25	DTA_int_08	20.6480	To start with Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/, can I have you reminisce a little bit	23.8252
27		24.0850	back when [you were-]	24.6013
28	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	24.4059	[Now,] you have to speak a little louder to me cause I [can't hear] too [well.]	27.8857
29	DTA_int_08	26.9078	[Okay.]	27.2011
31		27.6748	[Fine.]	28.0841
32		28.3105	Okay.	28.6589
34		29.1692	Uh,	29.4229
36		29.6358	to start with can I have you think back when you were a little girl.	33.2256
38		34.0049	What kind of games did you play?	35.6633
39	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	38.0745	Hide and s-	39.2623
41		39.7482	see.	40.2463
42	DTA_int_08	40.7016	[Mm-hm.]	41.0714
43	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	40.7872	[S-]	41.0073
44	DTA_int_08	42.1920	What else?	42.7768
45	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	44.4443	We would run around the house and play in there.	47.0225
47		48.3784	Uh, moonlight at night,	50.1173
49		50.7141	it's at first night when the moon shine.	53.1264
50	DTA_int_08	53.2670	Mm-hm.	53.7300
51	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	56.5421	And, uh,	57.0728
53		57.5617	we didn't have games to play like they do here. We didn't know nothing about many games some are	62.7947
55		63.3814	playing.	64.2793
57		64.3921	See, Sally Walker, like	66.3814
59		66.5251	things [like] that going around.	68.2853
60	DTA_int_08	66.8581	[Mm-hm.]	67.1084
61		68.7122	Mm-hm.	68.9545
63		69.3417	How do you play hide and seek?	70.8728
65		72.1278	How- how do you [play?]	73.1729
66	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	73.1149	[We'd] play, uh-	74.2976
67		75.1278	we run around the trees and around the corner of the house, and-	79.2188
69		79.8514	and count	80.5757
71		81.0972	one, two, three, four, all here.	83.7886
73		85.4388	And, um,	86.0745
75		86.3617	let's see.	86.9750
77		87.5954	Yeah, and they'd r- run.	89.0439
79		89.4504	I almost done forgot just how to [do, but,] uh, we would run around the house, you know, and be at the corner house, one that count.	95.9994
80	DTA_int_08	91.5366	[<laugh>]	92.0317
81		96.4639	Uh-huh.	96.6993
82	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	96.7115	And run, find the other one, you know, like they found where you at.	99.9739
83	DTA_int_08	100.4266	Mm-hm.	100.8184
85		101.4167	How do you play Sally Walker?	103.1791
86	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	103.9522	<ts> We would go around and-	105.4731
88		105.6504	and say	106.0996
90		106.3086	see Sally Walker, sitting in the saucer, flies-	109.4734
92		109.8605	s- s- fly, Sally fly. Ride, Sally, ride.	113.0164
94		113.3251	Wipe your weeping eye.	114.5342
96		115.2218	And, um,	115.7230
98		115.8514	things like that, and we got a whooping by playing it one time.	118.9645
99	DTA_int_08	119.0103	Mm-hm.	119.3006
100	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	119.5634	<laugh>	120.1033
101	DTA_int_08	121.4144	<laugh>	122.0921
102	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	123.2164	[<laugh>]	123.6438
103	DTA_int_08	123.5251	[Okay.]	124.0274
104		124.3960	Uh, did you ever play marbles?	126.2650
105	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	127.2921	Play what?	127.7597
107		127.9461	[Mar-]	128.5451
108	DTA_int_08	128.0714	[Marbles?]	128.7230
109	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	129.3264	marble?	129.9498
110	DTA_int_08	130.0354	Yeah, you know.	130.6130
111	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	130.6130	Yeah.	131.1355
112	DTA_int_08	131.3617	Uh-huh.	131.5757
113	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	131.7733	We would try to play marble, shoot marble, knock one out of the ring. You know,	135.8582
115		136.0018	[like] that.	136.5519
116	DTA_int_08	136.0018	[Mm-hm.]	136.2616
117		136.7352	Mm-hm.	136.9522
119		137.4554	Did you have different names for the different marbles?	140.4840
120	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	141.1644	Do what with the marble?	142.0813
121	DTA_int_08	142.1913	Did you have different names for them?	144.1706
122	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	144.5923	No.	145.0874
123	DTA_int_08	145.0874	No? [Okay.]	145.6405
124	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	145.4999	[You] didn't do nothing but	146.6755
125		147.0697	just b-	147.6228
127		147.7298	put 'em in the ring and shoot them, you know,	150.0361
128	DTA_int_08	150.1430	Mm-hm.	150.4242
129	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	150.4914	knock one out.	151.3317
130	DTA_int_08	151.6436	Mm-hm.	151.8932
132		152.4748	Did you ever play jacks?	154.1118
133	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	154.8483	No, I never could learn.	156.3234
135		156.4303	[I never] did learn how.	157.6680
136	DTA_int_08	156.4639	[Huh?]	156.7063
137		157.9431	Okay.	158.4504
138	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	158.8374	[Mm-hm.]	159.2531
139	DTA_int_08	159.2072	[And, um,]	159.8459
140		161.9536	uh.	162.3722
142		163.2249	When you w- do you watch television?	165.0850
143	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	166.4908	When I was a little [girl?]	167.5543
144	DTA_int_08	167.4992	[Now.]	167.9658
145	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	168.3172	Oh, yeah.	169.1087
146	DTA_int_08	169.1882	Uh-huh.	169.4113
148		169.6558	What is your favorite program?	171.2133
149	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	172.5488	Uh, Search for Tomorrow, and	174.6442
151		174.8093	Love of Life,	176.1234
153		177.2653	and Another World,	178.7291
154	DTA_int_08	179.1264	Uh-huh.	179.4602
155	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	179.6582	and As the World Turns.	181.2218
156	DTA_int_08	181.4296	Mm-hm	181.6444
158		182.1600	Can you tell me what's happening now on Search for Tomorrow?	185.7823
159	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	186.3997	Say what?	186.7817
160	DTA_int_08	187.0140	What's happening	187.9058
162		188.2517	on Search for Tomorrow?	189.5881
163	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	191.3587	Well, um, Search for Tomorrow is	193.9033
165		195.0544	Joanne's daughter getting married, you know, that's what I'm real interested in.	199.6160
166	DTA_int_08	199.7841	Mm-hm.	200.1386
167	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	200.1784	And, um,	200.8344
169		201.3447	she's getting married to-	202.9643
171		203.1845	she was getting married to, uh, I done forgot the man name she was getting married to, now. But	208.3013
173		209.2441	he had a /rake/ with him and they caught him, so he done disappeared out of the picture. And, uh- and my television got broken and I didn't, um, quite	216.5342
175		217.1118	keep up with all,	218.6062
177		218.8099	you know, the program. But, uh-	221.0093
179		221.6429	uh, now she's	222.9559
181		223.0721	fixing to get married to a-	224.6732
183		225.1650	another a doctor,	226.3593
185		226.6038	each one was a doctor [so] this doctor she's gonna get	229.6008
186	DTA_int_08	227.9566	[Mm-hm.]	228.2469
187	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	230.2486	married to. Now she's falling out with him, saying he's- you know, too much of a mother child, you know.	236.3036
189		236.8283	And that's why she never wanted to	238.2004
191		238.5580	marry him.	239.3984
193		239.8435	So something coming up,	240.9009
195		241.0750	being not on television, without it fixed then I can't (laughing)	243.8581
197		244.3624	keep up with how it's going. I'm	246.1247
199		246.2622	very sorry.	247.2524
201		247.7566	And I likes to see, um,	249.2714
203		250.0262	<ts>	250.1790
205		250.6497	Another World.	251.7244
206	DTA_int_08	252.0055	[Mm-hm.]	252.2580
207	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	252.1491	[And] here some	253.0537
208		253.2218	interest to me.	254.2342
209	DTA_int_08	254.4748	Mm-hm.	254.8594
210	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	254.9383	Um, this girl, uh,	256.5366
212		256.7035	she was gonna marry the woman's daughter, you know,	259.9430
214		260.3953	and, uh, sh-	261.0544
216		261.4181	she didn't want him to marry 'em because, uh,	263.7366
218		264.3539	she had a will give to her this g-	266.5502
220		266.7519	m-	266.8710
222		266.9902	girl was gonna marry her son.	268.7230
224		269.2395	She had a will, um,	271.0293
226		271.2554	m- uh, the woman	272.2452
228		272.6663	made a will to her when she-	274.7199
230		275.1447	and told- and, um,	276.3783
232		276.5617	had her-	277.2554
234		277.6955	told her and the boy	279.3692
236		279.8551	that that they would um	281.1539
238		281.8283	<ts> uh, she wanted them to get married right away.	284.7488
240		285.2836	And he was wondering why that she hadn't been liking him, you know, and then all at once she saying she want him to get married to her.	292.5602
242		293.0918	And he was wondering why, but still he was in love with her and he was getting-	297.2989
244		297.7603	ready to get married. But, uh, his mother didn't want her to marry	301.2126
245	DTA_int_08	301.4479	Mm-hm.	301.7788
246	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	301.8177	him, and so	302.6541
248		302.7885	she brought up something	304.4602
250		304.9889	and, uh,	305.4534
252		305.5848	she claimed this woman who had made the will was the girl's own mother.	310.2829
254		311.0286	She believed that it was her real mother.	313.6649
256		314.2364	But, uh, this girl didn't know where her father and mother were.	317.5634
258		318.0177	And she felt very bad, oh, with you know,	320.4931
260		320.9383	being raised up in the world and didn't have-	323.1080
262		323.2583	didn't know where her mother-	324.3447
264		324.6075	parents were that gave her away.	326.0867
266		326.6153	And she wanted to say that her mother	328.5673
268		329.1386	was dead.	329.8344
270		330.0024	She didn't want her	330.9804
272		331.1148	to be alive, had done gave her away.	333.4005
274		333.7787	You know, [would] live in the world and she be in the world and not come	337.1240
275	DTA_int_08	334.3776	[Mm-hm.]	334.6548
276	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	337.5702	where she was. She just	338.9138
278		339.2744	would pick up pictures or get pictures out there,	341.7824
280		342.4272	um,	342.9437
282		343.4663	you know, pictures you go to the	345.2194
284		345.7573	store and buy pictures. And	347.3586
286		347.6153	tell people that was her mother.	349.1515
288		349.6282	That she was dead, you know, well she didn't w- felt so bad though, she didn't wanna be living.	354.3875
290		354.9620	And, uh, her mother be l- uh, alive in the world and didn't come where she was. So this woman made her aware, you know.	361.3685
292		362.0011	And	362.4748
294		362.6479	<ts> her mother	363.5361
296		364.1790	a- she was adopted. She thought she was, you know, this h- m- uh- s- she said, um,	368.9933
298		369.1247	she thought she was a-	370.3929
300		370.9688	<ts>	371.0244
302		371.1417	adopted.	371.8771
304		372.7206	And this woman knows she was adopted, which made her aware. But the girl,	376.9736
306		377.5848	uh, she always wanted to say she was dead. She didn't want	380.8466
308		381.0208	folks to think that she was adopted [when she was] a baby.	383.8649
309	DTA_int_08	382.8456	[Mm-hm.]	383.2996
310	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	384.7909	And so	385.4204
312		385.7046	her mother	386.5159
314		387.6961	n- living- was her- the man what was gonna marry her mother.	391.5304
316		392.0688	Didn't want her	392.8496
318		393.4180	to h- h- her son to marry her.	395.6617
320		396.0819	That she wasn't a	396.9926
322		397.1026	type of- good enough girl for him, you know.	399.5861
324		400.2187	And she brought- got her	401.5532
326		401.6693	papers and thing, went to a lawyer, and got it all fixed up	405.1349
328		405.5983	to	406.0292
330		406.1943	break the m- wedding up, you know. And so, just- she would get her in a room	410.5878
332		411.2347	and talk mean to her, you know, and then when the boy	414.3355
334		414.8489	would come in, she would	415.9766
336		416.3617	get all the papers away. Then he didn't know, this was all undercover to him.	420.7848
338		421.6893	And so one day she talked to her so mean and told her	424.4510
340		424.9766	the wedding day was the next day.	426.6564
342		426.9926	<ts> And told her she wasn't- he wasn't gonna marry her cause he had done found out that she was a-	431.1997
344		431.6673	uh,	432.0544
346		432.8062	wasn't adopted, she was just- uh, this was her real mother.	436.5824
348		437.4534	And she said Missy- McKa- Corning was the lady's name.	441.1094
350		441.8275	And she said, uh, Ms. /McCorning/, uh,	443.9596
352		444.4394	uh, made me the will and, uh,	446.0744
354		446.3189	she was real nice to me as a real mother.	448.8238
356		449.8435	And, uh,	450.2977
358		451.3532	she told her	452.3158
360		452.7182	then that, uh,	453.4883
362		454.1912	<ts> he's not gonna marry you. And she just got	456.4547
364		456.6533	hm- m- uh- oh- so upset that she just tore up her gown and tore up her	461.0866
366		461.5084	veil and just run out. Ran out, you know, ran out the house.	465.0819
368		465.6411	And ran away, and after she run away, uh,	468.6381
370		469.4813	her son was all upset, you know, they gonna get married the n- next day. And so	474.5464
372		475.1056	they was looking her- and in the picture now they're still, uh,	478.0868
374		478.4326	they haven't found her, last time I looked at t- uh, [television.]	481.7821
375	DTA_int_08	481.7016	[Mm-hm.]	482.0591
376	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	482.1569	A man that found her while she was, uh,	484.5518
378		485.1600	had went on a /plan/- she had a lot of money.	487.6404
380		489.3019	And she had a- um,	490.4418
382		490.7627	a ring worth a lot of money.	492.6747
384		493.1943	And this man what found her and taken to- taken her to a room, he, uh,	496.9827
386		497.6214	um,	498.0612
388		498.3386	she gave him that ring, and he pawn it.	500.7121
390		501.4486	And, uh- so, um,	502.8269
392		503.4503	he still got her in the room k-	505.4112
394		505.8758	and found one that nobody,	507.3905
396		507.8214	you know, know where she at.	509.0530
398		509.6367	And this, u-	510.2561
400		510.3752	uh, boy is still looking for her.	512.7304
402		513.2194	Uh, last time that, uh,	514.6282
404		514.7994	I- I saw it in the picture.	516.4523
405	DTA_int_08	517.0415	Mm-hm.	517.4463
406	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	517.7107	And so, I- I'd just love to see that it's so- so good. I want to find out	522.5695
408		523.1026	what's a- um,	523.8574
410		524.3219	gonna be done about it, you know, if he find-	526.9797
411	DTA_int_08	527.5226	[Yeah.]	527.9474
412	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	527.5318	[if he] finds this girl.	529.2493
413		530.2608	And, um,	530.8649
415		531.5953	the way this man	532.7602
417		532.9399	talk, he wants to get her money. He done found out he got a lot of money for that ring he pawned.	537.9681
419		538.6496	And he telling her- now he already got a girlfriend.	541.6832
421		542.2944	And he's	542.9382
423		543.4883	telling this girl that he's gonna marry her and they gonna live loving together, but he don't mean that.	548.4992
425		548.6937	Sh- you know, he just	549.6075
427		550.1301	telling her that	550.9216
428	DTA_int_08	551.1202	Mm-hm.	551.4717
429	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	551.5206	thinking she'd gave her-	552.9650
431		553.3012	him his- her money, you know.	555.0238
433		555.8886	And so, um,	557.0713
435		557.5175	after	558.1246
437		559.2095	this all happened and sh- he still got her	561.9223
439		562.2001	/?/ find, and she said	563.4992
441		564.0452	she didn't- don't- l- any- n- she's not in love with him.	567.2102
443		568.4326	And, uh,	568.9841
445		569.6168	she say she don't see why he want to marry her. He said, well I wants to marry you so we can live happy /todeth/- together.	576.2503
447		577.2340	You know, but he don't even mean it, you know, he just	579.9681
449		580.2982	telling her all of this.	581.5328
451		582.0732	That's a real interesting picture, too.	583.9369
453		585.1002	And, uh,	585.6197
455		585.7481	As, um,	586.7364
457		589.2981	uh, As the World Turns	591.3599
459		591.5464	that's real good	592.8330
461		593.6846	too. Um,	594.6840
463		596.0774	this	596.5236
465		597.1277	Ellen	597.6411
467		598.2554	she done went to prison in there and then she got a	601.7199
469		602.7212	<ts> out of prison. And she's gonna marry	605.4167
471		605.5878	a doctor, too. And she had already done married him.	608.7182
473		609.2560	But her son, she killed a-	611.2027
475		611.4472	a woman cause she was gonna tell	613.2737
477		613.6618	that her son was adopted to him- uh,	615.9533
479		616.5671	to him, you know, when	617.9504
481		618.3141	he was a baby.	619.2920
483		619.8666	Well the woman what she killed was, uh,	622.7688
485		623.2333	just raising him up there as a doctor's maid, you know, there in the house was	627.7297
487		628.0506	raise him up.	628.9949
489		629.5878	And so she, uh-	630.8703
491		631.8605	um,	632.3873
493		633.7022	after th- she raised him up, and this woman she told her one day, she wanted her to-	638.8985
495		639.0727	to leave there. Ellen Cole	641.0683
497		641.5970	told her	642.3080
499		642.4272	this maid- I just remember her name now,	644.8649
501		645.3049	that, uh,	645.8275
503		645.9956	she wanted her to leave the house.	647.7610
505		648.5800	And she said she wasn't gonna leave. And she said, yeah you gonna leave today.	652.9185
507		653.8190	Told her	654.3019
509		654.7969	uh,	655.2584
511		655.5304	the maid. And she said, no.	657.0513
513		657.6625	Said, um,	658.4364
515		658.6679	she was gonna stay there and, uh, she was gonna	661.4859
517		661.9155	call her son	663.2377
519		663.7480	and tell her that she was his real mother. That's why she wanted to marry that doctor so she would be there with her son. And-	670.4998
521		671.1508	and she said, no you's not gonna	673.2584
523		673.6710	call and tell him that I'm his real mother.	676.5059
525		677.3188	And she said, yes I am.	679.0842
527		679.5426	And when she said yes,	680.8343
529		681.3712	she was gonna tell him, you know, call him and tell him,	683.9871
531		684.5463	Ellen Cole picked up a-	686.1263
533		686.6343	a stack of something on the,	688.2798
535		689.1080	um, table or something, and threw it at her. And-	692.1080
537		692.3739	and that killed her.	693.3141
539		693.6655	You know, and so	694.5273
541		695.0866	after then she went to prison. And this boy w- never could forgive Ellen for that. He hated her for that, but he didn't know that she was his real mother.	702.7480
543		703.1823	And she was, but Ellen didn't want her to know	705.7205
545		706.6496	that she was.	707.8195
547		708.2652	And so she killed this woman, so she went to the pen. And so she got	712.0384
549		713.0621	pardoned, she d- you know, she didn't stay her time out, but	716.1019
551		716.8740	she got pardoned out the pen.	718.8482
553		719.0469	And another girl was in there	720.7633
555		721.5685	was gonna	722.1202
557		722.4686	have a baby	723.6572
559		723.9070	in, uh-	724.6465
561		725.5633	in there.	726.3586
563		727.8635	Uh,	728.3769
565		728.8221	<ts>	728.9810
567		729.5922	/pentin/-	730.0078
569		730.5701	in the pen where she was.	732.0421
571		732.6991	And so she got in /there/ and they got to be real friends.	736.3042
573		736.9246	And, uh, when this girl baby was born	739.2064
575		739.8665	she was his,	740.5501
577		741.0146	uh, got her to let her be the baby's Godmother. And they met and had a,	744.9161
579		745.4601	uh, they- uh, a priest, you know, and everything and made her	748.6740
581		748.7932	the baby's	749.4502
583		749.7334	Godmother, you know.	750.8436
585		752.6000	And, uh, <exhale> that's real interesting too. I like it	755.5266
586	DTA_int_08	756.7575	[Mm-hm.]	757.0200
587	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	756.8489	[too.]	757.1728
588		758.7395	<ts> Yeah it's really	759.6258
590		759.7755	good.	760.2064
592		762.4027	I r- really love	763.6465
594		763.8032	television.	764.7059
595	DTA_int_08	764.8618	Mm-hm.	765.3966
596	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	765.5372	Hm.	765.6991
597	DTA_int_08	766.4265	Mm-hm.	766.6404
598	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	767.3158	[I was] raised in the country, I didn't know-	769.2828
599	DTA_int_08	767.3158	[Do you.]	767.5219
600	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	769.7198	know too much about different things was going on.	772.6037
602		773.5816	I g- I tell my daughter I was so dumb. <laugh>	776.7334
604		777.1277	The coming up here, you know, and not, uh, know, um,	780.1613
606		781.7779	/closer/ I- I lived in-	783.6227
608		784.1453	in the city,	785.0886
610		785.7823	uh,	786.1949
612		786.2896	in- in Birmingham, Alabama.	788.2088
613	DTA_int_08	788.2913	Mm-hm.	788.5006
614	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	788.5083	You know, not in Birmingham but in Bessemer, Alabama. All my children	792.4180
616		793.2339	except	793.8913
618		794.2516	two was born in Bessemer, Alabama.	796.4662
620		796.6862	But I married	797.8771
622		798.4577	and went to Laurel, Mississippi and stayed there two year.	801.4944
624		801.7755	And I came-	802.4489
626		803.2394	came back, um,	804.6006
628		806.0652	to Bessemer, Alabama.	807.3813
630		807.8183	And that's where all my children was born, except	810.2407
632		810.6044	the two that was in-	811.5884
634		812.2720	the old and the oldest, they was born in Laurel, Mississippi.	815.3922
635	DTA_int_08	815.4981	Mm-hm.	815.8391
636	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	815.9229	Mm-hm.	816.3996
638		817.3684	And so	818.0743
640		819.6472	<ts> I married and I had never	821.2760
642		821.7976	been	822.3049
644		822.4363	nowhere but with my mother and father.	824.7640
646		825.5341	They didn't let me go,	826.6190
648		827.5175	I didn't know no kind of-	829.1209
650		830.0254	of	830.6376
652		831.3599	dance, or party, or nothing about nothing like that.	834.4210
654		835.2828	And I was twenty-two years old	837.2071
656		837.5616	when my daughter	838.4478
658		839.3494	that I- was here.	840.4210
660		841.0921	/Come save me and I/ was born.	842.6061
662		843.8135	And so, you know, <laugh>	845.5637
664		845.9871	<laugh> I was kind of dumb. Not	847.8696
666		848.8801	know nothing, you know, know about, th- like	851.5256
668		851.6876	parties and-	852.6808
670		852.8794	like girls	853.8023
672		854.3524	do now. They go out,	855.7175
674		855.9833	I couldn't go out with my	857.0094
676		857.4105	boyfriend, if I got to	858.8122
678		859.5395	have a boyfriend. About- I was about, uh,	862.0200
680		862.6923	fifteen years old.	863.9779
682		864.8061	Well	865.1422
684		865.4685	he couldn't take me to church or nowhere.	867.4509
686		867.9769	Unless mama went.	868.9957
688		869.7388	<laugh> Or pops.	871.3739
690		871.9388	I didn't have no brothers, that's why	873.9464
692		874.0868	they said that they wouldn't let me go, because I didn't have no brothers to go with.	877.7067
694		877.8380	Just	878.1006
696		878.8335	the four girls raised up.	880.5082
698		882.5541	And so I was born in	884.1159
700		885.1663	year nineteen o	886.4716
702		887.4793	three.	887.8856
704		889.6823	And I'm a old lady now.	891.3007
705	DTA_int_08	892.4319	[No.]	892.7889
706	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	892.7342	[And] I can't get no proof of my age or something. I don't know how I'm n-	896.8854
707		897.0655	I, uh, I don't know.	898.0929
709		898.5571	Try, /you guess about/, uh-	899.8121
711		899.9159	it was to go, um,	901.2548
713		902.3205	to Livingston, Alabama where I got my marriage certificate.	905.4334
715		906.4258	And, uh,	906.9983
717		907.3078	I could get my school record there.	909.3222
718	DTA_int_08	910.0838	Yeah.	910.4685
719	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	910.8922	But I reckon if I write there it would help me.	913.2884
720	DTA_int_08	914.0517	I think so.	914.8732
721	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	915.7357	Well.	916.0380
723		916.6731	Well I'm'a try that to- when my daughter come to see me and might get her to write, because she know how to ten- go by it.	922.8358
724	DTA_int_08	923.2105	Mm-hm.	923.5250
725	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	923.9525	To find this, you know,	925.3769
727		925.6853	and what to write to.	926.9648
729		927.5938	And see, cause I get my school record from the Board of Education, that would not even help me.	932.2105
731		932.5495	I don't know how come that, uh,	934.5204
733		935.6472	I didn't-	936.2365
735		937.2303	can't find- they say they can't find my place of birth. Mm, I was sent to /Central/	941.4731
737		942.3709	um, /Pittsboro Council/ and they said they couldn't find my place of birth.	946.0441
738	DTA_int_08	946.2334	Hm.	946.4227
739	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	946.7617	And I don't know why my daddy-	948.6563
741		949.2151	we were raised on the farm.	950.8797
743		951.7754	And he never ever did let us have a birthday party. Nothing about no birthday	956.3601
745		957.0075	parties or,	958.0582
747		958.7800	you know.	959.2624
749		959.6855	Sometime mama'd bake us a cake and say it's your birthday.	962.4850
751		963.0899	But that's all we knowed about, n- but then	965.4945
753		965.7541	place like I- I can't even get it correct, uh,	968.5143
755		969.4961	address, where they was getting their mail. If I could, I said, if I was able to go home	974.3724
757		975.1724	down- down in Alabama- Cuba, Alabama,	977.9464
759		978.6029	those white people who are popping r- uh, raised us on this-	981.9784
761		982.2502	the place, you know.	983.4634
763		984.2625	Um,	984.6822
765		985.3815	<ts>	985.4792
767		985.7265	Mr. /RD-NAME-2/,	987.0090
769		987.5082	uh,	987.8776
771		988.3265	/RD-NAME-2/	989.0930
773		989.8380	Brown.	990.4074
775		990.6211	/RD-NAME-2/ he was the	992.2304
777		993.3785	um, in Livingston.	994.9366
779		995.0533	And he was in Livingston, he was the probate judge.	998.1113
781		998.5205	But he's dead.	999.4776
783		1000.1586	And his sister was in there offering, you n- you know, uh, a hospital	1004.4075
785		1004.7647	when I was at home last.	1006.5830
787		1007.1723	And she told me that she would help me	1009.3479
789		1009.8823	get my, uh,	1010.9999
791		1012.1372	/cerstifi/- you know, getting a birth right cause she know when I was born.	1016.2823
793		1017.3555	I can't get back down there, and I just told her I was gonna write to Central and they haven't- they said they can't find it.	1023.0121
794	DTA_int_08	1023.3066	Hm.	1023.4593
795	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1024.0883	And she would help me but, uh,	1025.6212
797		1027.7387	<exhale> oh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ is dead and	1030.3540
799		1030.6960	Ms. /RD-NAME-4/ is dead, all those	1033.2013
801		1033.8548	people who'd know, probably lived on the place, you know.	1036.5006
802	DTA_int_08	1036.7021	Mm-hm.	1037.0777
803	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1037.3494	But, uh,	1038.0273
805		1038.5143	Mr. McGowan-	1039.7235
807		1040.6640	that was a white man the probably lived on this place	1043.6564
808	DTA_int_08	1044.3646	[Mm-hm.	1044.7303
809	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1044.5662	[too.]	1044.9509
810		1045.6319	And so	1046.5052
812		1047.0670	he was a-	1047.7830
814		1049.9296	help me, I know some of them, but	1051.8609
816		1052.6701	I told my daughter and I'm'a try to get up some money and go down there and get his	1056.2472
818		1057.1555	get them write and n- down and I'll bring it backs to send it to Cen-	1061.3311
820		1061.9785	see what they say.	1062.8929
822		1063.7868	Get the truth, you know, somebody true that- um, that I get the correct,	1067.8725
824		1068.7555	um,	1069.2678
826		1069.9250	<ts> place, and they can find properly. It wouldn't take 'em no Centrals, but still th-	1074.2319
828		1074.7372	they could give the name- or, you know, date of my birth.	1077.2730
829	DTA_int_08	1077.8685	Yeah.	1078.1964
830	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1078.2593	And they know [cause I] lived /long/.	1080.2998
831	DTA_int_08	1079.2334	[/Uh/.]	1079.4991
832		1080.8288	[Mm-hm.]	1081.2221
833	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1081.1250	[Mkay.]	1081.6074
834		1081.9952	Oh, this is still talking ain't it? Is this talking what I'm saying?	1085.7036
836		1086.6700	Oh. <laugh>	1088.8502
838		1090.5761	Well it's still recording what I say.	1093.1861
839	DTA_int_08	1093.3815	Uh-huh.	1093.7509
840	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1093.7509	Well.	1094.2059
841	DTA_int_08	1095.4349	I can't remember everything you say,	1097.5082
842	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1097.8166	[<laugh>]	1098.5509
843	DTA_int_08	1097.8716	[so we have to have] that get it all down, right?	1100.1571
844	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1100.4868	Yeah.	1101.0395
845	DTA_int_08	1102.4395	Mm-hm.	1102.6349
846	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1102.7448	<laugh> [/How was it/?]	1103.6243
847	DTA_int_08	1103.0532	[And you didn't] know?	1104.0762
848	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1104.3982	Uh-huh	1105.0005
849	DTA_int_08	1105.1677	[<laugh>]	1105.6410
850	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1105.5466	[Well] I d-	1106.1448
851		1107.9753	mm-hm.	1108.5761
852	DTA_int_08	1108.9922	Mm-hm. (laughing)	1109.3753
853	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1109.4166	Well okay.	1110.3418
854	DTA_int_08	1111.8486	<laugh>	1112.3311
855	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1112.3433	Well they sure l- know I was dumb, won't they?	1114.5921
857		1114.8151	<laugh>	1115.2120
858	DTA_int_08	1115.4716	No, they'll know where you were born. <laugh>	1117.8639
859	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1118.3311	I said dumb.	1119.4008
861		1119.9784	Dumb, you know I was t- s-	1121.1235
863		1121.5387	I was telling you how dumb I was when I,	1123.6166
865		1123.8639	you know, didn't know nothing about nothing.	1125.5448
867		1125.8257	I couldn't even talk on	1127.0746
869		1127.9754	telephone things when I was a married woman and come to Bessemer.	1131.9356
871		1132.4578	I had never talked on a telephone.	1134.3815
873		1134.5600	You know.	1134.9723
874	DTA_int_08	1135.1066	Uh-huh.	1135.3868
876		1136.7281	Where were you born?	1137.5746
877	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1138.4456	I was born in Cuba, Alabama.	1140.1433
878	DTA_int_08	1140.7402	Uh-huh.	1141.0791
879	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1141.1646	/Cubie/-	1141.6563
881		1143.0273	and, um,	1143.5478
883		1145.5052	um,	1146.0487
885		1147.5158	I'm- I remember papa lived in, um,	1150.2471
887		1150.5830	at Cuba and that's all the address that I knowed, was route one box ninety-seven. All I ever remember,	1156.6158
889		1157.1479	you know.	1157.5265
891		1158.9967	Uh, at Cuba. And, uh,	1160.3586
893		1160.8502	my sister's here and she real sick, and she said we-	1164.0120
895		1164.4318	say we used to live in Lauderdale before we're, um,	1167.2869
897		1167.7921	you know,	1168.3112
899		1169.2487	too. Lauderdale, Mississippi.	1170.7280
901		1171.9005	But I wasn't born in Lauderdale. I-	1174.3814
902	DTA_int_08	1174.3967	[Mm-hm.]	1174.7174
903	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1174.5036	[I] was born in, um,	1175.6823
904		1176.3768	Cuba, Alabama. All I know.	1177.9494
906		1178.5021	And I know that	1179.2899
908		1180.4761	the, um,	1181.0135
910		1181.1204	date was,	1181.9708
912		1184.0929	um, nineteen-o-three.	1185.8379
914		1186.4883	I know they'd always- they always would tell when it was we born, you know.	1190.3341
915	DTA_int_08	1190.7097	[Mm-hm.]	1190.9676
916	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1190.8703	[But] I can't	1191.5261
917		1191.7280	remember the address	1193.5387
919		1195.1249	of what we had.	1196.2181
921		1196.5646	No more, Cuba, Alabama. I guess they got their-	1199.4624
922	DTA_int_08	1198.0547	[Oh.]	1198.6135
923	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1199.9571	they didn't have no	1200.8654
925		1201.3814	house number something [like that.]	1203.5020
926	DTA_int_08	1203.0837	[Mm.]	1203.4842
927		1203.7097	Mm-hm.	1203.9796
929		1204.6868	Where else have you lived?	1205.9204
930	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1207.2227	Hm?	1207.4944
931	DTA_int_08	1207.6105	Where else have you lived?	1208.9326
932	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1209.5509	Where else have I lived beside, uh?	1211.5112
934		1212.3921	Well I lived in-	1213.7295
936		1215.0731	from Cuba to Laurel, Mississippi, and came back to Bessemer, Alabama, and came	1219.2898
938		1219.8120	from there here.	1220.6029
939	DTA_int_08	1221.3235	How many years have you been here?	1222.9005
940	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1224.1433	<ts> Well I came here in- in nineteen,	1227.2716
942		1227.4623	um,	1227.9234
944		1229.3464	s- nineteen sixty-two.	1232.0441
945	DTA_int_08	1233.7921	You've been in Detroit three years?	1235.3769
946	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1235.7464	Mm-hm.	1236.3240
947	DTA_int_08	1236.6150	Uh-huh.	1237.0794
948	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1238.4357	Yeah.	1238.8135
950		1240.9005	I married again, my second husband, and we came up here on a visit.	1245.4867
952		1246.2532	And he'd taken sick.	1247.3128
954		1247.8471	And died th- the- there.	1249.4883
956		1250.1460	We came in sixty-two and he died in sixty-three, in first day of April.	1254.0487
957	DTA_int_08	1254.5051	Oh, I'm sorry.	1255.3326
959		1255.6257	Well [what was-]	1256.2557
960	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1255.9097	[Sure] did.	1256.6846
961	DTA_int_08	1258.9433	Mm-hm.	1259.1915
963		1259.4048	What happened to him?	1260.3937
964	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1261.1707	What?	1261.4364
965	DTA_int_08	1261.6439	What happened to him?	1262.9109
966	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1263.3968	Well, um,	1264.3173
968		1265.2364	he had a heart- a heart attack or something and he'd taken down sick.	1269.2716
970		1269.7982	And all a sudden he have a stroke.	1271.5418
972		1271.9051	And they carried him to the Columbia Hospital, and then he died.	1275.0242
974		1276.6715	Mm-hm.	1277.1815
976		1280.2273	Mm-hm.	1280.7352
977	DTA_int_08	1280.7952	Is it very different up here from down south?	1283.3871
978	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1284.5753	Yeah.	1285.0608
979	DTA_int_08	1285.2623	Everything?	1285.7572
980	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1285.9188	Lots are different.	1286.9693
981	DTA_int_08	1287.4348	Like what?	1287.8837
982	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1287.9051	Uh- um,	1288.6562
984		1290.3449	it look like to me t-	1291.3723
986		1292.3036	that this the best place to live or something, you know.	1295.4838
988		1295.9279	When I was down there at the time th- um,	1298.4227
990		1299.2532	I- when I first came	1300.8190
992		1302.5905	to- to Bessemer,	1303.7417
994		1304.7494	uh, we given, uh- I w-	1306.7112
996		1306.8791	never did his work,	1308.3014
998		1308.4989	no more than house work, you know, house cleaning.	1311.2795
1000		1311.8135	And then when I go to the people's house, I would have to go around to the back door, you know,	1316.0227
1002		1316.7250	to go in. Well	1318.0730
1004		1318.5463	now it's done changed down there,	1320.6455
1006		1320.9722	cause you can go in the front door.	1322.7525
1008		1323.4134	And then you would have to wait til after	1325.7830
1010		1326.5875	everybody eat,	1327.5921
1012		1327.9891	after you fix	1328.9967
1014		1329.2319	food, you know, you have to wait til everybody eat.	1331.7036
1016		1332.7860	So you could eat, you know, like that. And that seem a lots a different	1337.1265
1017	DTA_int_08	1337.6486	[Mm-hm.]	1337.9041
1018	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1337.7341	[too.]	1338.0120
1019		1339.1616	And, um,	1339.6532
1021		1340.9601	<ts>	1341.0639
1023		1342.0547	here	1342.5494
1025		1342.6985	you don't, here's not that way.	1344.3143
1027		1344.9906	And my daughter,	1345.8397
1029		1347.0761	uh, she's on /RD-WORK-3/ and she work	1349.4692
1031		1349.8441	two days a week over here.	1351.3936
1033		1352.0227	And, uh,	1352.5356
1035		1352.7494	she go,	1353.3340
1037		1353.6699	the people treat her just like she was in the family. They don't even make a difference.	1358.3982
1039		1359.9994	Oh, the children so crazy about her, they just,	1362.8715
1041		1363.2593	you know.	1363.7265
1043		1364.3044	And then, uh, the children down there would call you,	1367.1875
1045		1367.3250	uh- I used to work for,	1368.9170
1047		1369.6776	um,	1370.1448
1049		1370.3005	some people.	1371.1433
1051		1371.6119	And they would,	1372.3845
1053		1373.4043	uh, tell me-	1374.3951
1055		1375.6776	the children said	1376.7769
1057		1378.9966	your skin black, you's old nigger.	1381.0241
1059		1382.0623	That's what they would tell me when s-	1383.5905
1061		1383.8715	they mother would	1384.5005
1063		1384.7875	go off, you know.	1385.6120
1065		1386.2960	And when she'd come I would tell 'em what she said-	1388.6364
1067		1388.8990	what the ch-	1389.3829
1069		1389.8226	kids say.	1390.5371
1071		1391.3921	And, uh,	1391.8105
1073		1391.9998	she would, uh,	1392.7066
1075		1393.5738	you know, scold 'em about it.	1394.8593
1077		1395.9356	She would scold 'em.	1396.8333
1079		1397.4715	Tell them that was	1398.4837
1081		1399.4089	not to be calling me a nigger, not to be calling me black like that.	1402.9188
1083		1403.4257	And one of their little girl- they would have, uh,	1405.3457
1085		1405.6929	these things, like you turn around on your /finger/ like they march with.	1409.3044
1086	DTA_int_08	1409.4135	Mm-hm.	1409.6617
1087	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1409.9509	Hit me in the back when I'd be trying to hang up clothes, just come out there and lay on me in the back with that big s-	1415.2578
1089		1415.8227	thing on the end.	1416.9661
1090	DTA_int_08	1417.1738	Oh.	1417.3692
1091	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1418.0257	And I'll say, I'm'a tell your mama when you come. They be all running and they would have the /company/ playing with it, and run around the house, and just laugh.	1424.8074
1093		1426.0915	Said, we hit that nigger, didn't we.	1427.9343
1095		1428.1937	<laugh> And like that, you know.	1429.6685
1097		1430.0007	And I was just so nice to 'em, well you know, and do everything for 'em.	1433.6018
1099		1434.3906	And I'd have the baby in my arm,	1436.1288
1101		1437.4835	you gotta have a baby- look at your black hands on our baby.	1440.8130
1103		1441.8695	Mm.	1442.3339
1105		1442.8062	And I would- I would	1443.5659
1107		1443.7154	tell her every time, so	1445.1044
1109		1445.9740	last when they-	1446.9786
1111		1447.7261	go back.	1448.1960
1113		1451.5285	The last when they, uh-	1452.8985
1115		1453.3050	she came	1453.9450
1117		1455.1394	to the house and, uh,	1456.5674
1119		1456.7444	I mean she was there and she had me, I put the bread on and I was helping her after I got	1461.4315
1121		1461.9229	her dinner on, she likes so much the way I iron, you know, she l- l- liked my work.	1466.7163
1123		1467.4438	And so she asked me,	1468.9473
1125		1469.2082	where was the glass that I drinking out of, and I told her.	1472.2143
1127		1472.6424	It was sitting on the /sink/.	1473.8466
1129		1474.8847	And she	1475.3882
1131		1475.5942	taking that glass and sat it outside the door, on the-	1478.4828
1133		1478.8397	on the floor.	1479.6727
1135		1480.3172	And I seen her when she done that, and so she said, um-	1483.7719
1137		1485.6849	uh, hm.	1486.3966
1139		1486.8786	She put on some water, you know,	1488.6025
1141		1489.4606	and took my m-	1490.4400
1143		1490.6719	dishes aw- they all had done ate, she came back in there and got the dish what I ate of and	1495.6407
1145		1496.1258	things. And poured the boiling water over it	1498.3081
1147		1500.1143	and, uh,	1500.5659
1149		1502.0709	then she put 'em in the sink with them other things.	1504.7397
1151		1505.8306	I washed 'em, I didn't say nothing about	1507.7444
1153		1508.0281	what she did, but I just didn't go back the next day.	1510.8085
1155		1511.0281	She might have been doing it the whole time, but I didn't know it.	1513.8160
1157		1515.5403	So I was working for another lady, and she would	1518.0411
1159		1518.4634	done the same thing. And so I didn't think that was right and I-	1521.7276
1161		1522.3233	I just stopped working for 'em.	1523.7055
1163		1525.4271	/Have to/ wait the whole time, you know.	1527.2211
1165		1528.6232	Talk to you so bad, she would have the-	1530.6739
1167		1531.2867	her guests would come in and look at how nice the house was cleaned up, and tell them that, uh,	1536.3574
1169		1537.1891	/RD-NAME-3/ did this. That,	1538.8346
1171		1539.2730	look how beautiful she cleans up. She can clean up, she really know what to dos. They be sh- sh- b- talking	1544.7756
1173		1545.1692	but they would never speak or saying nothing to me, you know.	1548.1647
1175		1548.8008	They would come on by me like I was a /knot/ standing up there in the floorboards. (laughing)	1553.0326
1177		1555.7718	So that was all-	1556.9938
1179		1557.5109	it's much, uh, different from the-	1559.1319
1181		1559.9068	my daughter	1560.4865
1183		1560.7306	takes me with her, you know, where she work. And they treat me, have a seat.	1564.2440
1185		1564.7444	Oh, this your mother? And she said, meet your mother, you know and they would	1567.8115
1187		1568.9099	tell me their names, shake hands with me and everything. It just seemed real different.	1573.2959
1189		1575.2089	I likes here m- much better.	1576.8420
1190	DTA_int_08	1579.2623	Mm-hm.	1579.5468
1192		1579.9122	What does your daughter do?	1581.1296
1193	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1582.7810	My daughter, where she at?	1583.8916
1195		1585.2837	Well, she works at this Catholic school.	1588.1403
1197		1588.8054	Um,	1589.3332
1199		1589.5102	some kind of	1590.3330
1201		1591.5796	job like that.	1592.5529
1203		1592.7329	Uh, it's a government job.	1594.7322
1204	DTA_int_08	1595.0068	[Uh-huh.]	1595.3362
1205	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1595.0861	[She works] at a Catholic school.	1596.7245
1206		1598.0037	Takes	1598.5000
1208		1598.6597	children out of- sightseeing, different thing like that. This time of years, uh, they goes out, you know, they not	1605.4133
1210		1605.6421	teaching s-	1606.2592
1212		1607.0312	but they, uh,	1607.6871
1214		1608.8130	has a-	1609.5918
1216		1610.3698	takes 'em out to different games, uh, s-	1612.3996
1218		1612.8939	to the farm, and, uh,	1614.7947
1220		1615.6132	take 'em to r-	1616.1929
1222		1616.3973	playground, just play /a surrogate/.	1618.3449
1224		1619.4980	On, they have a bus to take 'em out there. The government pays for all of that.	1623.2913
1226		1623.9267	She'll take 'em to, uh-	1625.6170
1228		1625.8916	go back baby.	1626.8557
1230		1628.8122	Takes 'em to, uh,	1630.0975
1232		1632.7886	uh.	1633.4667
1234		1633.9335	Niagara Falls, not long ago.	1636.1677
1236		1636.6955	And they have a bus load to take their mothers.	1639.9305
1238		1640.6017	That's kind of job she got, the one where stay here.	1643.3668
1239	DTA_int_08	1644.2333	Mm-hm.	1644.6635
1241		1645.2440	Is that your daughter?	1646.3698
1243		1647.4347	Your daughter?	1648.0304
1244	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1648.4942	Mm-hm. That's my oldest daughter.	1650.3880
1245	DTA_int_08	1650.7642	How [many ch-]	1651.3264
1246	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1650.9877	[The one of 'em,]	1651.5033
1247		1651.9976	um, uh, born in Laurel, Mississippi.	1654.9152
1248	DTA_int_08	1655.2356	how many children do you have?	1656.7611
1249	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1657.8267	I have, um,	1658.7329
1251		1659.9511	four children living.	1661.1624
1253		1662.1784	My- my oldest son got drowned.	1664.7137
1254	DTA_int_08	1665.2211	Oh.	1665.5433
1255	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1665.9259	And my	1666.5717
1257		1666.8115	little girl of about four got burned up.	1669.2226
1258	DTA_int_08	1670.0769	What [happened?]	1670.7967
1259	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1670.4583	[And all] of that just makes me real forgetful. Sometime I forget what I'm	1674.6726
1260		1675.4606	tryna s- um,	1676.9099
1262		1678.1799	just- just forgetting I'm putting anything up and can't find it. I just	1682.5834
1264		1683.0044	been that way ever since that happened.	1684.6894
1265	DTA_int_08	1685.1318	What happened to your daughter?	1686.2100
1266	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1687.3264	D- uh, s-	1688.0744
1268		1688.3363	sh- sh-	1688.8488
1270		1689.0807	I went,	1689.5872
1272		1689.8404	um, to-	1690.9274
1274		1691.0800	to school.	1691.9221
1276		1692.4407	And the school wasn't no-	1693.4057
1278		1693.5857	hm, wasn't a half a block and, uh, d-	1695.8618
1280		1696.5547	my oldest girl had just been came here.	1698.7428
1282		1699.5857	Came to the house and told me the teachers had stepped out a minute. It wasn't far and I just took the baby up in my arm and went up to see what she want.	1706.8641
1284		1707.6168	And that's when my little	1708.8267
1286		1709.7817	child like that, she was about,	1711.2775
1288		1712.0678	uh, three going on four.	1713.6970
1290		1714.3660	And the little boy was five going on six.	1717.5159
1292		1718.6078	And so	1719.3675
1294		1719.7459	when I got back, she was burned to death.	1721.7878
1296		1722.1600	The little boy came over there and	1723.8328
1298		1724.5224	unstuck a paper sack	1725.9716
1300		1726.5094	to her,	1727.0464
1302		1727.7481	you know, to her dress.	1728.9045
1304		1729.5196	While she have on her new outing clothes, and just	1732.3108
1306		1733.3637	burning her.	1733.9326
1308		1736.2234	And so my oldest son was twenty-two	1738.5582
1310		1739.4247	and he got drowned	1740.5994
1312		1740.9228	[in] Bessemer, Alabama.	1742.1745
1313	DTA_int_08	1740.9999	[What-]	1741.2383
1314		1742.5620	What happened to him?	1743.4620
1315	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1743.9602	<ts> What happened to him?	1744.9823
1317		1745.5041	He just, uh, w- was swimming one Sunday in, uh,	1748.2935
1319		1749.1051	the reservoir in Bessemer.	1750.5948
1321		1750.8786	And he was swimming,	1751.7298
1323		1752.2790	him and some /old/ boys. And they say he collapsed and just went down, and didn't come back.	1756.6534
1325		1757.9190	The polices	1758.9022
1327		1759.2623	told me that they gave 'em and	1761.0125
1329		1761.6330	me the same story. They was, uh,	1763.4247
1331		1764.4896	/hounding him/, but, um, they gave me the address but that they never woulda let me see him. I never did get up with him.	1770.4072
1333		1772.8793	Every time I	1773.6787
1335		1774.1524	go and /??/ for example, it'd be to the house that the police told me to get,	1778.1837
1337		1779.0899	um,	1779.5719
1339		1781.4430	you know. U- u-	1782.4133
1341		1782.5658	uh, whatever they said, give me the same statement	1785.5475
1343		1785.9259	that them gave them.	1786.8511
1345		1787.5376	But they never- I never could catch up with 'em.	1789.5918
1347		1790.2356	And the police didn't seem to be interested to go pick 'em up.	1793.4461
1349		1794.1448	And this- he had married.	1795.6345
1351		1795.9243	And his wife said that she was his wife, and-	1798.2409
1353		1798.9793	and the coroner want me to have a autopsy, and she said wasn't no autopsy gonna be performed on, cause that was her husband.	1805.1526
1355		1805.8305	And those boys what went with him was	1807.8572
1357		1808.4766	their friend that would come play cards with them, you know, at	1811.8522
1358	DTA_int_08	1812.1631	Mm-hm.	1812.3797
1359	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1812.4316	night. And said that she didn't want 'em arrested.	1814.7819
1361		1816.9549	And so wasn't nothing I could do, cause I was just almost collapsed. I couldn't even stand up.	1821.6543
1363		1822.5095	I- it just shocked me so that I just	1824.8770
1365		1825.3203	sink. I sent for her to come to the house	1827.7123
1367		1828.7047	th- the- the coroner sent me word for to have a	1831.5033
1369		1831.8206	autopsy.	1832.4796
1371		1832.7603	Cause	1833.0441
1373		1833.3583	he couldn't see if he was strangled.	1835.4949
1375		1836.0654	And he couldn't- he wanted to find the-	1837.9463
1377		1838.1684	they wanted to find the-	1839.2821
1379		1839.6634	the cause of him	1840.7840
1381		1841.6841	to drown.	1842.4896
1383		1843.7626	And so she d- she w-	1845.1234
1385		1845.3095	came a told me wasn't no autopsy gonna be performed on him.	1848.0807
1386	DTA_int_08	1848.5719	Mm-hm.	1848.8191
1387	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1849.1829	She came to the bed where I was.	1851.1112
1388	DTA_int_08	1851.5910	Mm-hm.	1851.8137
1390		1852.5521	Have you ever been in the hospital?	1854.2516
1391	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1854.6970	Me?	1855.0334
1393		1855.4880	Yes.	1855.9884
1394	DTA_int_08	1856.2630	What for?	1856.8827
1395	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1857.8709	Well I had the appendix	1859.2630
1397		1860.1509	in, um,	1860.6695
1399		1862.7847	in Birmingham.	1863.7893
1401		1864.5124	They gave me a operation. It burst and they	1866.9533
1403		1867.1494	gave me a operation. [And that's]	1868.5934
1404	DTA_int_08	1868.0311	[Mm-hm.]	1868.3637
1405	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1869.5513	[I just-]	1869.9999
1407		1870.3233	that was, uh, I think about-	1871.8793
1409		1873.3782	<ts>	1873.5063
1411		1873.7443	about fifty-four, I believe.	1875.4800
1413		1876.8114	That was about fifty-four.	1878.0532
1415		1879.2897	Go back.	1879.7992
1417		1882.8572	He's real bad.	1883.8992
1418	DTA_int_08	1885.0273	[Why?]	1885.5889
1419	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1885.3477	[Hm,] do nothing with- why he so bad?	1887.3065
1420		1887.6573	I don't know. I believe he just spoiled, my daughter just spoiled him /?? up/.	1892.0311
1421	DTA_int_08	1892.8671	He's just beautiful.	1894.2195
1422	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1894.6314	You think [so?]	1895.4705
1423	DTA_int_08	1895.4552	[Oh, yes.]	1896.7093
1424	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1896.4499	[Oh.]	1896.8465
1425		1897.0395	Hm.	1897.3782
1427		1898.4064	Thank you.	1898.9830
1429		1899.9441	If he wasn't so damn hard headed.	1902.1112
1430	DTA_int_08	1902.6116	<laugh>	1902.9236
1431	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1903.0517	<laugh>	1903.4667
1432	DTA_int_08	1907.2386	How old is he?	1908.1921
1433	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1909.5948	He two- was two in April.	1911.5963
1434	DTA_int_08	1911.8953	Uh-huh.	1912.2714
1435	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1916.2477	He's adopted.	1917.2027
1437		1917.5261	She e- she wanted a child so bad	1919.9190
1439		1920.9228	to	1921.5948
1441		1921.7657	sh- n- she got this baby, uh,	1923.9838
1443		1924.2958	adopted.	1925.0433
1444	DTA_int_08	1927.6070	Is he the only [one?]	1928.5213
1445	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1928.3240	[He was] just-	1929.2383
1446		1931.1043	lemme see, he was just I think about-	1933.0944
1448		1933.5765	he wasn't five weeks old.	1935.0074
1449	DTA_int_08	1935.6268	When she [got him?]	1936.3113
1450	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1935.9053	[When she] got.	1936.6558
1451	DTA_int_08	1937.7817	Oh.	1938.1097
1453		1939.3355	Is this her only child? The only one?	1941.3960
1454	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1942.0395	Yeah.	1942.3602
1456		1943.2630	Only one.	1944.0837
1457	DTA_int_08	1947.9998	Uh-huh.	1948.2988
1459		1949.0097	Have, uh-	1949.5803
1461		1949.7634	can you tell me about the time, uh, th- the worst time you were ever sick?	1953.6154
1462	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1955.4216	Worst time	1956.3095
1464		1957.2134	that I had?	1957.9579
1466		1958.2081	You mean?	1958.5803
1467	DTA_int_08	1958.7512	That you were ever sick.	1959.9807
1468	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1962.4346	That [I h-]	1962.9541
1469	DTA_int_08	1962.6551	[When you-] when you were sick.	1964.2233
1470	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1964.6840	when I was sick?	1965.5383
1472		1966.3507	That was the worst time. I had- when I had the appendix. [I was] so [sick.]	1970.4084
1473	DTA_int_08	1969.4797	[Uh-huh.]	1969.7499
1475		1970.0464	[Yeah.]	1970.2873
1476		1970.7786	[Uh-huh.]	1971.0660
1477	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	1970.9556	[I] didn't want nobody to call my name, I was so sick.	1974.2209
1478		1974.9563	I, uh,	1975.4666
1480		1975.7779	when I went to-	1977.1691
1482		1977.3248	to the doctor's hospital	1978.8267
1484		1979.2935	in Bessemer,	1980.1142
1486		1980.6970	and, uh, it take a lot of money there. And he told me it would take two hundred and fifty dollars. I needed a operation, I had appendicitis.	1987.8633
1488		1988.6962	Well they sent me there to the- the government hospital in Birmingham that was s-	1993.0822
1490		1993.5368	called, um,	1994.4277
1492		1996.5155	<ts> um.	1997.5376
1494		1997.9281	Let me see what hospital- Hillman Hospital.	2000.0463
1496		2000.8823	And they take me there and they operated. The man examined me that night, the doctor examined me and told me	2006.1653
1498		2006.6474	th- that I had appendix and it had burst, and they had to operate on me that night.	2010.5139
1500		2011.3507	And they started putting blood in the one arm and	2014.1310
1502		2014.5795	they had s- something	2015.8518
1504		2016.0990	in a	2016.5993
1506		2016.8823	white-looking, like /water/.	2018.3484
1508		2019.6939	It was going in the other and I was just so sickly like I was	2022.9655
1510		2023.0761	sa- I was going off somewhere, looking like I was	2025.5069
1512		2026.0792	just floating or something I was so sick.	2028.1081
1514		2028.8587	That's the worst time. And then when they went to putting that tube in my nose, you know,	2032.8297
1516		2033.4338	I had to swallow the tube	2034.9411
1518		2035.1158	that night.	2035.7504
1520		2036.5986	And they got me on the operation table, I reckon about eight o'clock that morning.	2040.6909
1522		2041.8267	And they didn't put, um-	2043.2668
1524		2043.5048	get down baby.	2044.3385
1526		2045.4887	Get down.	2046.0074
1528		2048.1592	I didn't put a- uh, they didn't-	2049.8739
1530		2050.1097	nurses didn't fix everything right.	2052.4407
1531	DTA_int_08	2053.8053	<laugh>	2054.1684
1532	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2057.1470	Didn't fix	2057.7420
1534		2058.0623	thing right in that, uh,	2059.5063
1536		2060.0524	was gonna have, um,	2061.2027
1538		2061.3278	bottom up on the bed, you know,	2063.4399
1540		2064.1661	for that tube what was in my nose to go in. And she didn't have it fixed right, and it had just come boiling out my mouth. And it- whew.	2072.1074
1542		2072.3301	Look like I was gonna die.	2073.4864
1544		2074.8572	I just knowed I was going.	2076.4163
1546		2076.6787	Phase the way I was feeling, you know.	2078.6596
1548		2079.2637	I thought I couldn't be that sick and, you know, get, uh,	2082.0074
1550		2082.8709	up again.	2083.6527
1552		2084.3331	[I just] knowed I was /down/.	2085.7732
1553	DTA_int_08	2084.3331	[Mm-hm.]	2084.6688
1554		2086.2775	Mm-hm.	2086.5551
1555	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2087.1074	But I had told my daughter	2088.6611
1557		2088.7862	what's,	2089.1157
1559		2089.5551	um,	2090.0280
1561		2090.7664	uh.	2091.2729
1563		2091.6176	Sixteenth Street, not to let these girls up here know about me being sick and my son.	2097.2912
1565		2098.1127	And, uh,	2098.5765
1567		2098.7992	when I n- when I knowed anything, they was all walking in the hospital.	2102.5772
1569		2103.6970	And the nurse I was- had done got up then was in the-	2106.4864
1571		2106.6243	could go to the bathroom. The nurse come in there,	2108.9464
1573		2109.3379	said don't get frightened now.	2110.6955
1575		2112.1630	/put the-/	2112.4460
1577		2115.4315	Told 'em not- me not to get frightened that my children had came, and they was all in the h- room. And I in the ward, and say when you walk in don't get frightened.	2125.4453
1579		2125.6558	Cause see I just had been operated,	2127.9061
1581		2128.7077	and so when I got in there I didn't get frightened, and my older daughter just fell out, went to crying.	2133.4590
1583		2133.7244	<laugh>	2134.0517
1585		2135.0585	And that kind of upset me a little bit, and I told her not to cry. I was alright, I feeling better.	2139.7446
1587		2141.2263	And that is the worst time I had, when,	2143.1279
1589		2143.4849	you know,	2143.8511
1590	DTA_int_08	2144.2446	Mm-hm.	2144.5059
1591	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2145.0318	of my /sickness/.	2145.9418
1592	DTA_int_08	2146.2042	Mm-hm.	2146.4553
1594		2146.8968	How about when people say	2148.4132
1596		2148.8373	if something's gonna happen to you,	2150.7481
1598		2151.3278	it's gonna happen anymore because God wants it.	2154.1551
1599	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2154.6054	[Mm-hm.]	2155.2819
1600	DTA_int_08	2154.8991	[What do you think] about that?	2156.0311
1601	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2158.2622	Well, um,	2159.2080
1603		2160.3491	I thinks- I thinks that's real true.	2162.8697
1605		2163.2912	Uh, but	2163.9571
1607		2164.2103	it look like to me	2165.5040
1609		2166.8525	just say whatever God do is for the	2169.1569
1611		2169.4803	best and things like that, you [know.]	2171.6108
1612	DTA_int_08	2171.3728	[Mm-hm.]	2171.7481
1613	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2173.5154	But just <sigh> looking back	2174.8945
1615		2175.0623	when my little girl got burnt,	2176.7137
1617		2178.2850	that didn't have to be. Looked like	2179.9731
1619		2180.5284	uh- i- that would just something- it had just seemed like it was on my account.	2184.7885
1621		2185.4300	I just fault myself for it.	2187.1294
1623		2187.8708	It just hurt me so bad and everything I said, now.	2190.6573
1625		2191.5276	They say, well if, uh,	2192.8030
1627		2193.1325	you had just stayed at home, for it wouldn't had happened.	2195.9159
1629		2196.9502	/But/ If I had just stayed at home, that what it seem, I didn't stay at home.	2200.8175
1631		2201.3178	And-	2201.6792
1633		2201.8365	and- and it happened just seemed like I was supposed to, it didn't seem like God was in there.	2206.7351
1635		2207.8091	But I know he was, but you know, just, you know, I fault myself so deeply	2212.2042
1637		2213.0280	about that.	2213.7816
1639		2214.7793	And then my son, he came up to the house	2217.2240
1641		2218.2500	and told me that, um,	2219.4338
1643		2220.2454	he had some greens	2221.7198
1645		2222.3178	planted, and he'd	2223.4559
1647		2223.7457	pull up a big,	2224.8358
1649		2225.7084	uh,	2226.2911
1651		2226.4376	enough greens for me. And brought 'em up to the house and told me to cook 'em for Sunday dinner.	2231.3728
1653		2231.8884	And remember him when I eat 'em. You know	2234.2721
1655		2234.4979	the green?	2235.1325
1656	DTA_int_08	2235.3949	Mm-hm.	2235.6329
1657	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2235.6939	And so, uh,	2236.7442
1659		2236.8785	that Sunday he was drowned. The same Sunday. Then when-	2240.0310
1661		2240.5436	I couldn't cook the green, I would look at them greens and just fall out	2243.9158
1663		2244.2026	crying.	2244.7367
1665		2245.7137	That idea he brought them that Saturday and I had them all fresh, sprinkled with water, you know, I'd cook 'em just like he told.	2251.9064
1667		2252.4917	He said, eat these green and tell mama I wasn't at the house when he came.	2255.9677
1669		2256.7335	Eat the greens and then remember me. Just like that. And you know when	2260.5429
1671		2261.2507	I went to go in there to pick the greens, and- and a girl come-	2264.9341
1673		2265.5596	his wife and said, uh,	2266.9914
1675		2268.7000	my son had got drowned.	2270.1653
1677		2270.7663	And I said, what you say just like that? She say, oh, nothing he- e- uh, /RD-NAME-2/ has just got drowned a while ago.	2276.6565
1679		2277.2484	Just like it wasn't nothing.	2278.5337
1681		2280.0531	And then I thought that was the awfulest thing in the world	2282.7145
1683		2283.3125	to happen.	2283.7000
1685		2286.0867	<ts> I sure-	2287.4088
1687		2289.1233	<ts>	2289.2728
1689		2289.6084	and see,	2290.7320
1691		2291.4429	now if he had stayed at home	2293.6924
1693		2294.0829	mm, he would-	2294.7053
1695		2295.2362	cause he went on a-swimming. He had done been swimming that morning.	2298.4925
1697		2300.2782	And came back	2301.0867
1699		2301.2820	and went back to swimming that evening. Some boys came, take him to swimming	2305.1432
1701		2305.7564	and he didn't wanna go, and said I done been in swimming. And she told him to go ahead,	2309.8273
1703		2310.4223	the boys came for you, now won't you go back.	2312.9286
1705		2313.6725	/That's it/.	2314.1889
1707		2314.5886	And he did never get back home.	2315.9982
1709		2317.9425	Uh,	2318.3239
1711		2320.0547	I believe in the Lord a- and everything like that, but you know, just look like	2324.5927
1713		2325.7366	things like that	2326.7656
1715		2327.4551	hm, I'm n- uh,	2328.3887
1717		2329.3079	just don't look like He-	2330.3056
1719		2331.2209	He would've suffered my little girl to get burned up like that. And- but they hasn't been any, I just	2336.2263
1721		2337.0470	it was the cause of that myself.	2338.7247
1723		2339.5924	Her leaving home.	2340.5560
1724	DTA_int_08	2342.3117	[Mm-hm.]	2342.5961
1725	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2342.4399	[I] shouldn't have went to see what the teacher say, unless I had taken her with.	2346.2301
1726	DTA_int_08	2348.8792	Mm-hm.	2349.2484
1728		2350.2865	Have you ever been in a car accident?	2352.2209
1729	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2352.4376	N-	2352.7030
1731		2352.9288	yeah.	2353.3750
1732	DTA_int_08	2353.7290	What happened?	2354.2703
1733	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2355.1233	<ts> I mean,	2355.9440
1735		2356.2591	this girl was	2357.2934
1737		2357.8334	taking me home from my younger son's house, and w- I was going home with her one night. And, uh,	2363.2324
1739		2364.2057	there	2364.7190
1741		2366.1836	a car, uh, sh- uh, was- it was raining,	2368.7930
1743		2369.3544	and they all stopped on the expressway. And, uh, the car hit	2372.7982
1745		2373.1355	on, uh- uh, the car in front of her stopped.	2376.1630
1747		2376.8342	And she went and couldn't stop by being slipping, and slipped onto that car. And it bucked my head, you know, and they had	2383.5306
1749		2383.9486	came into the hospital. And she want me to go with the police, and see, I was scared of the police cause I wasn't used to no police.	2390.4032
1750	DTA_int_08	2390.4032	Hm.	2390.5070
1751	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2391.2392	And I wouldn't get in the car with 'em.	2392.8371
1753		2393.1164	And she had to take me to the doctor the next day, cause I was scared to get in the car with the police to go to the,	2398.4543
1755		2399.6717	<ts> um,	2400.2392
1757		2402.5161	hospital. They wanted to take me to the receiving.	2405.4215
1759		2406.0928	They came to the car to get me out and I- I wouldn't go.	2409.2392
1761		2410.0852	And so	2410.7198
1763		2410.8876	she d- though- without hesitating she said, now I wouldn't have t-	2413.8754
1765		2414.3300	pay to take you to the doctor if you had just went on with the police. [<laugh>]	2418.7068
1766	DTA_int_08	2418.4467	[Why were] you afraid of the police?	2420.0157
1767	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2420.1744	Well I wasn't u- you know, I was always used to 'em, you know, they beat up so many people down in the south that I didn't, you know, I just didn't wanna go with 'em, I just really didn't.	2428.5794
1769		2428.7442	I just- I was	2429.7543
1771		2430.3911	afraid.	2431.2103
1773		2432.1256	N- now I know my boy	2434.0835
1775		2434.4330	got arrested.	2435.2873
1777		2436.6389	And	2437.0943
1779		2438.3971	<ts> they came in the house	2439.9745
1781		2440.7411	that night, I was so scared I didn't know what to do.	2443.1492
1783		2443.6862	And they taking him on out and put him in jail.	2446.0333
1785		2447.8456	And I got up the next morning, I didn't know there was the police was in there. I,	2452.5032
1787		2452.6740	uh- I heard 'em talking	2454.5026
1789		2455.0974	and my son was here now,	2457.2514
1791		2457.5534	he was is in the /small/.	2458.9245
1793		2459.8883	And after stopped talking I said, who is all that talking in there?	2463.9204
1795		2464.0516	And the boy was scared to come in, tell me the police, and the boy was getting his clothes on.	2468.8456
1797		2469.6359	And he told 'em, they know I was easily frightened after my children got,	2473.4177
1799		2473.8235	oh, you know, my	2474.8700
1801		2475.0806	little girl got burned up, I was easily frightened. And he told 'em, please don't wake mama up. But I heard 'em	2480.6137
1803		2480.9158	but I thought it was some boys come in to see him.	2483.4764
1805		2484.1141	And I opened the door where the boy slept and- and a-	2487.2148
1807		2487.7457	asked where /??/-	2488.8083
1809		2489.1988	where's the oldest?	2490.3826
1811		2491.6038	And one of the boys said, the police got him and gone.	2494.3811
1813		2495.3025	And I went out	2496.1477
1815		2497.0943	I said, what was I doing, it was night.	2499.2789
1817		2499.7213	I k- I was scared to go by myself, and I came back to daylight.	2503.2438
1819		2504.0127	And then, uh,	2504.7419
1821		2504.9799	I went to call in the different jailhouses then. And I called /Lipton/, they said they didn't have him there.	2510.9433
1823		2511.7609	I called down in Bessemer, and they said th- they didn't have him there.	2515.0483
1825		2516.0432	I didn't know what to say then.	2517.6389
1827		2518.8449	And so then I called Birmingham, they had him in Big Rock.	2522.6656
1829		2523.0897	In Birmingham.	2523.9593
1831		2525.6961	And	2526.1690
1833		2526.4101	ooh, I didn't know what to do, so	2528.2598
1835		2528.5649	before he had went to the Army	2530.3079
1837		2531.0645	they, uh, put him in jail.	2532.6816
1839		2533.6435	And, uh,	2534.1683
1841		2535.2758	when he went to go to the Army	2537.0188
1843		2537.8243	I had got a lawyer, and I went to the lawyer and I told him he had to go to the Army. Once he go, or what must he do, you know, and the lawyer told me let him go head home. Probably in two years, if you stay two year	2548.3719
1845		2548.8549	there was a- just a small case, they'd throw it out.	2552.0127
1847		2553.2697	And so, um,	2554.3475
1849		2555.4612	when- I didn't know nothing to do but to go back to that lawyer, when l- when I hear that- to find out the had him in Big Rock. And I went to the lawyer	2562.9165
1851		2563.7015	and I said, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/- Mr.	2566.1492
1853		2566.4391	/RD-NAME-3/-	2567.3910
1855		2567.6771	Mr. /RD-NAME-3/.	2568.3338
1857		2568.8158	I said,	2569.5825
1859		2570.2537	they got my son this morning. I said, they got him in Big Rock. I said, uh,	2574.4070
1861		2575.4116	<ts>	2575.4940
1863		2575.6099	what must I do? What- why they got him? What- what's wrong you reckon? And guess what,	2579.9798
1865		2580.3612	he said, I had him picked up.	2581.7259
1867		2582.1011	I had him picked up. I said, you had him picked up? He said,	2584.9303
1869		2585.3239	yes see I told you to bring me money the whole time he was in the Army.	2588.9615
1871		2589.6297	I was getting a little check, you know, from my	2591.7175
1873		2592.0439	husband's social security.	2593.5611
1875		2594.2842	And he said, I told you to bring me money every month, you know, when you take him to the Army and you didn't do it, so.	2599.7381
1877		2600.4246	Y-	2600.6168
1879		2600.7693	uh, you gotta-	2601.7823
1881		2602.0729	to pay me.	2602.9059
1883		2603.5100	I said, why do I have to pay you for the-	2605.3445
1885		2605.7442	um,	2606.2567
1887		2607.3246	lawyer /RD-NAME-3/.	2608.3201
1889		2608.5428	I said, what I have to pay you for?	2610.1599
1891		2610.7670	He said,	2611.3109
1893		2611.8418	because, uh, said, um,	2613.5962
1895		2613.9684	I didn't let that trial go through.	2615.7754
1897		2616.1812	And that's why you got to pay me.	2617.6557
1899		2619.7274	I said, well I ain't got no money now.	2621.7663
1901		2622.8982	He said- I said, what must I do?	2624.7456
1903		2625.1446	He said, go down there to Big Rock and bust your dern brains out.	2628.1873
1905		2628.5840	<laugh>	2628.9997
1906	DTA_int_08	2629.3445	[Mm-hm.]	2629.6478
1907	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2629.5519	[Against] the wall.	2630.3605
1908	DTA_int_08	2630.9432	Hm.	2631.1171
1909	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2631.3124	That's what you do.	2632.1614
1911		2633.5069	Ooh, I- it hurt me so bad I- I went to crying, and I turn around and started walking on down to-	2639.2049
1913		2639.8486	to the courthouse	2640.6236
1915		2641.3109	crying and praying.	2642.8639
1917		2643.4894	I just praying just like	2644.9821
1919		2645.5832	/unintelligible/. Lord help me, I don't know what to do. I ain't got no money, m- they got my son. I just praying all the way to-	2652.5931
1921		2653.4360	to Big Rock. And I didn't know just how the goes, it's a good ways from downtown, you know.	2658.2697
1923		2659.1309	And I asked a man, show me where- just where the jail was- uh,	2663.1774
1925		2663.8700	courthouse. And he	2664.8097
1927		2665.0302	showed me, and I went on up there, went up,	2666.9646
1929		2667.6175	when I got in the courthouse,	2669.4337
1931		2669.7998	my son was sitting off in the front, you know, in- o- on the bench.	2673.1293
1933		2674.6709	And they was having some more trials.	2676.9654
1935		2677.5885	And so	2678.1835
1937		2679.2682	I was sitting there just crying, still crying and praying. I see him, he never did see me.	2684.2110
1939		2684.5130	And I was just crying.	2685.6145
1941		2686.2133	And after a while they said /RD-NAME-5/ case. Just like that.	2689.8601
1943		2690.8120	And the jury said,	2691.9287
1945		2694.0500	this	2694.3978
1947		2694.5504	case is pronounced SES. Something like that, you know.	2697.9875
1949		2698.6923	That means, um, I didn't know what the word meant but they told me that meant they'd throw it out.	2703.6663
1951		2705.6442	See the Lord heard my prayer, I said.	2707.7045
1953		2707.9913	I didn't have no money.	2709.1537
1955		2709.4649	I didn't have nothing, I didn't know what to do. And that's what the lawyer told me, to do.	2713.3414
1957		2714.3757	To go down there and bust my brains out.	2716.2072
1959		2716.7228	And I didn't know what to do.	2718.0042
1961		2718.6877	And I just prayed, I just give up going down there. I said, Lord he in your hand, I'm in you hand, I ain't got nothing.	2724.3429
1963		2724.5412	I said, Lord please don't let 'em lock my boy up.	2727.0073
1965		2728.0546	I said,	2728.5458
1967		2729.1621	I ain't got no money to even bond and take him home with me. I said, I don't know what to do.	2733.4131
1969		2734.6557	I said, I'm in your hand now. Just l- just walking around, praying like that.	2738.4276
1971		2738.5649	To the Lord, just loud, nobody but me in the-	2740.7167
1973		2740.9852	in the- til I met the man s-	2742.4161
1975		2742.7914	showed me how to go.	2743.7258
1977		2744.2354	And when the judge said that	2745.9874
1979		2746.9699	he said, boy. Said, uh-	2748.5443
1981		2749.3200	called him boy, just like that, didn't call him his name. He said,	2752.0353
1983		2752.7746	/RD-NAME-5/ case. And then the jury got up and said the case was pronounced, SES, something like that.	2758.7716
1985		2759.4642	And stood up, said, there ain't nobody here against him or nothing. He said, he- he didn't have no- wasn't nobody there but him.	2766.1873
1987		2767.1553	And so	2767.7838
1989		2769.0927	<ts>	2769.1964
1991		2769.3887	uh, he said, uh,	2770.5672
1993		2771.2476	boy you got any money?	2772.6083
1995		2772.9409	To go back to Bessemer, you got your fair?	2774.5679
1997		2775.0256	And some of the-	2776.2712
1999		2776.4207	the, um,	2777.1682
2001		2778.1141	the mens was sitting up there on the	2779.6479
2003		2780.1438	/bench/, like that, uh,	2781.5675
2005		2784.0317	what the mans is? [s- /inaudible/.]	2785.5156
2006	DTA_int_08	2784.9966	[The jury?]	2785.5945
2007	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2785.7014	Mm-hm.	2786.2842
2009		2786.5038	Some of 'em had done gave him fifty cent.	2788.5641
2011		2789.5282	And he	2790.0805
2013		2790.2819	didn't never see me, he just went on out and run, you know, just as fast as he could go.	2794.3139
2015		2794.7106	And I run around to get the the elevator to catch him, you know.	2797.7655
2017		2798.6777	After	2799.1293
2019		2799.3185	some of 'em told me, your son case i- is thrown out, lady.	2802.8250
2021		2803.0515	The lady who was next to me.	2804.4520
2023		2804.9401	And I just got up to overtake him, he had done caught the first elevator and gone.	2809.1064
2025		2809.4909	And I met Mr. lawyer /RD-NAME-3/	2811.4741
2027		2812.4665	just as I s- went to step	2814.0927
2029		2814.5076	on the	2814.9867
2031		2815.5336	elevator, he stepped out.	2817.2239
2033		2818.0790	And he said,	2818.8936
2035		2819.0035	hey give me fifty dollar.	2820.3093
2037		2820.6419	Give me fifty dollar, that's what he told me.	2822.6490
2039		2823.2056	I said, fifty dollars?	2824.4995
2041		2825.7543	He said, yeah give me fifty dollars, see what I done? I done had your boy turned loose.	2829.6779
2043		2830.2031	Just like that.	2830.9064
2045		2832.9079	I said, no sir, you did not have my	2835.1848
2047		2835.5510	boy turned loose. I said, God had him turned loose.	2837.9560
2049		2838.8713	I said, that's what had him turned loose.	2840.6479
2051		2841.0201	And walked around him, got on that elevator. And I ain't seen him since.	2844.3679
2052	DTA_int_08	2844.5357	Yeah.	2844.8927
2053	DTA_se2_ag4_f_02	2845.6433	<laugh>	2846.3721
2054	DTA_int_08	2846.3805	Mm-hm.	2846.6998