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1 | DTA_int_03 | 0.9101 | Okay. | 1.4355 |
3 | | 2.0078 | Let's check and make sure this thing's going. | 3.9163 |
5 | | 4.8704 | Alright. | 5.1940 |
7 | | 5.6826 | Uh, | 6.0429 |
9 | | 7.3804 | would you like to | 8.0108 |
11 | | 8.1269 | talk to me about games you used to play when you were a kid? | 11.0811 |
12 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 11.9941 | Well I played, uh, | 13.4001 |
14 | | 14.8170 | a little bit of basketball. | 17.0237 |
15 | DTA_int_03 | 17.0719 | [Uh-huh.] | 17.2734 |
16 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 17.2211 | [And] then I played- uh, I played quite a bit of softball. | 20.2521 |
17 | DTA_int_03 | 20.4902 | Uh-huh. | 20.8110 |
18 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 21.0185 | I played on a | 21.8552 |
20 | | 22.2252 | team, which I was the only | 23.7895 |
22 | | 24.9804 | colored | 25.4628 |
24 | | 25.8856 | on the team. | 26.8261 |
25 | DTA_int_03 | 27.0704 | [Mm-hm.] | 27.3513 |
26 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 27.3208 | [And] | 28.0750 |
27 | | 29.1085 | this team was sponsored by the man which I worked for, for over twenty years. I worked for that man out of /RD-WORK-7/. | 34.9956 |
29 | | 35.1635 | [I worked] there for [twenty year.] | 36.3513 |
30 | DTA_int_03 | 35.1635 | [Mm-hm.] | 35.4784 |
32 | | 35.9238 | [Were you at] /RD-WORK-2/? | 36.5928 |
33 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 37.3071 | I wasn't going to /RD-WORK-2/, [I was] working | 39.5739 |
34 | DTA_int_03 | 38.5372 | [Oh.] | 38.6794 |
35 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 39.7422 | p- at the store there. [And,] | 41.4936 |
36 | DTA_int_03 | 41.1147 | [Mm-hm.] | 41.3559 |
37 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 42.1467 | I worked for that man for twenty years and | 44.3337 |
39 | | 44.5849 | saw I played quite a good, uh, | 45.8491 |
41 | | 46.2216 | baseball there with them. | 47.6063 |
42 | DTA_int_03 | 47.9757 | Mm-hm. | 48.2702 |
43 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 48.8185 | And, uh, that's about all the games- other than, | 51.9071 |
45 | | 52.2521 | like kid games. Hide and go seek and that kind of [stuff,] and those kind of things [/I played/.] | 57.4307 |
46 | DTA_int_03 | 55.1575 | [Mm-hm.] | 55.3984 |
48 | | 57.1192 | [Did you] play hide and go seek? | 58.2765 |
49 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 58.5514 | Oh, yes. Hide and go seek and, | 60.5323 |
51 | | 61.2155 | uh, | 61.9345 |
53 | | 62.1971 | post office, and all of those. Don't you- uh, do you know anything about those kind of games? [<laugh>] | 67.4459 |
54 | DTA_int_03 | 67.1522 | [Oh,] yeah. [<laugh>] | 69.2536 |
55 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 67.8490 | [<laugh> And all of 'em.] | 69.2261 |
56 | DTA_int_03 | 69.6383 | How did you play hide and go seek? | 70.9894 |
58 | | 71.1024 | What did you say? | 71.8200 |
59 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 71.9177 | Uh, well we'd say, | 73.7818 |
61 | | 74.7742 | uh, wa- | 75.9590 |
63 | | 77.1513 | one, two, three, | 78.4093 |
65 | | 79.9864 | All everybody hid? | 81.0027 |
67 | | 82.2155 | Here I come, both eyes open, [and, uh. <laugh>] | 86.3436 |
68 | DTA_int_03 | 84.4429 | [/inaudible/] | 85.4602 |
69 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 86.7956 | Then we'd started looking for one, and, of course naturally when | 90.0137 |
71 | | 90.3941 | you saw one, you say, one two three, and so and so. | 92.7742 |
73 | | 93.1223 | And then you got to go back and touch the | 94.8215 |
75 | | 95.0077 | place where you was, | 96.1864 |
77 | | 96.5651 | uh, | 97.1666 |
78 | DTA_int_03 | 97.8856 | Place where you were? | 98.4788 |
79 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 98.4139 | where you there hiding at, you know where he was counting from, see. | 101.1390 |
80 | DTA_int_03 | 101.5726 | Yeah. [Now, what's] that called, that place? | 103.7787 |
81 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 101.8169 | [And.] | 102.0734 |
82 | DTA_int_03 | 104.7009 | Any [special name?] | 105.5499 |
83 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 104.9818 | [You know, now I've] forgot that- th- uh, n- we didn't- I don't believe we gave it any name, we just, like- we'd pick out a tree like that tree setting out there, and we didn't call it nothing. But that's | 113.8414 |
84 | | 114.1880 | where you'd have to run back to, to touch that, uh, | 116.3222 |
86 | | 116.8810 | when you found one. And | 118.4170 |
88 | | 118.9009 | to keep him from getting home on you- oh, they call that [home.] | 121.9340 |
89 | DTA_int_03 | 121.7515 | [They call] it home? | 122.4077 |
90 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 122.5146 | [That's] right. | 123.0520 |
91 | DTA_int_03 | 122.7131 | [/?/] | 122.8688 |
92 | | 123.0673 | What did they call it when he beat you back there? | 125.2978 |
93 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 125.7223 | [Uh, yeah-] uh, well he went free. | 128.0199 |
94 | DTA_int_03 | 125.8627 | [And he got away?] | 126.7024 |
95 | | 128.2428 | He [got free?] | 128.6013 |
96 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 128.3314 | [He's] home free. [I'm home] free. Yeah, he's home free. (laughing) | 131.2795 |
97 | DTA_int_03 | 129.2780 | [Uh-huh.] | 129.5070 |
98 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 131.6429 | So he didn't have to- | 132.9589 |
100 | | 133.2002 | he d- he didn't- he was home free. | 135.0050 |
102 | | 135.0948 | He was [out of it.] | 135.8918 |
103 | DTA_int_03 | 135.5465 | [Mm-hm.] | 135.7879 |
104 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 136.2154 | Mm-hm. | 136.5391 |
105 | DTA_int_03 | 137.1635 | [Uh,] how did you- | 138.2566 |
106 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 137.2154 | [Yeah.] | 137.3925 |
107 | DTA_int_03 | 138.6127 | let's see. | 139.0353 |
109 | | 139.2399 | Did you ever play marbles? | 140.2789 |
110 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 140.7161 | Oh, yeah. That's the one game I forgot. Why yes, I played marbles [/actually/.] | 144.7897 |
111 | DTA_int_03 | 144.2322 | [You good at marbles?] | 145.0101 |
112 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 145.3193 | W- yeah- well, I was pretty good at marbles. We played, uh, | 147.9559 |
114 | | 148.6277 | of course we'd slip and do let's play for keeps, so you see, yeah that's- see, our parents thought we'd play for fun, but we'd get around and hide and | 155.7955 |
116 | | 156.4795 | we'd play for keeps. We had agates, onyx, and agate was the top marble- uh, marble. [It was] the best, see. And | 163.1727 |
117 | DTA_int_03 | 161.6948 | [Uh-huh.] | 161.9635 |
118 | | 163.1727 | Did you have a s- | 163.6291 |
120 | | 163.7451 | a nickname for those? The [agates?] | 165.1937 |
121 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 164.9848 | [No,] no nickname. It was just- I had a- just an agate and, uh, a onyx. | 168.8103 |
122 | | 169.0292 | And then the others | 170.3092 |
124 | | 171.2291 | which was made of, uh, crock. The- it was called | 174.2871 |
126 | | 174.3971 | /marble/ | 174.9587 |
128 | | 175.1727 | [and,] the agates and onyx /was/ look like glass there. | 177.8589 |
129 | DTA_int_03 | 175.1971 | [Mm-hm.] | 175.4685 |
130 | | 178.1527 | [Yeah.] | 178.3054 |
131 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 178.1574 | [The agate] though, it was very hard. I don't know what it was made out of, but it was almost like a pearl. It was very hard, ju- you could- you couldn't hardly find one. | 186.2291 |
132 | DTA_int_03 | 186.7116 | [Yeah.] | 186.9956 |
133 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 186.9620 | [And] when you got one, oh, boy it is worth something to you. It's /weight/ in marbles, you'd get a whole hand full of marble if you | 192.7095 |
134 | | 192.8387 | found one, see. | 193.4658 |
135 | DTA_int_03 | 193.6871 | Yeah. | 193.9788 |
136 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 194.1573 | And, uh, we [had-] | 194.9573 |
137 | DTA_int_03 | 194.8199 | [Did] you ever play with your agates when you were playing for keeps? | 197.4138 |
138 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 197.7314 | Yeah. Oh, yeah. | 198.7452 |
140 | | 199.2044 | But you'd have to have an agate to put against mine, see, and [a good] one. And, yeah, oh. And, uh, th- [play] with the agates for keep and- (laughing) | 206.9665 |
141 | DTA_int_03 | 202.1069 | [Ah.] | 202.3957 |
143 | | 205.1574 | [<laugh>] | 205.6016 |
144 | | 207.5650 | Yeah. | 207.9902 |
145 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 208.0414 | Oh, we'd get broke | 209.4627 |
147 | | 209.5848 | sometimes though you'd wanna fight, but, uh, it wasn't in the game back there then, of course | 214.1116 |
149 | | 214.5024 | the- | 215.0291 |
151 | | 215.5909 | back there then, | 216.5009 |
153 | | 217.5971 | I think they're- | 218.6703 |
155 | | 219.3909 | they played more sociable than they do now. They- they- | 223.4444 |
157 | | 223.9558 | in other words, you was more of a sport. You either win or lost, you just lost. That's all. And | 228.1445 |
159 | | 228.5375 | you take kids playing now, I- the way I see it now they get out here and if I lose then I'm ready to fight, cause I ain't gonna let you have it. [<laugh>] And [that's it.] | 234.8032 |
160 | DTA_int_03 | 234.4612 | [Yeah.] | 234.7543 |
161 | | 235.7603 | No [sporting.] | 236.5845 |
162 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 236.5023 | [Mm-hm.] No sport to it. There's no [joy.] | 238.6351 |
163 | DTA_int_03 | 238.5008 | [How] did you play? | 239.2703 |
164 | | 239.6398 | Did you have a- | 240.2783 |
166 | | 240.5925 | a [line?] | 241.1611 |
167 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 241.1146 | [Well] you have a s- you have a circle. | 243.7054 |
168 | | 243.8917 | You make a circle that you put the marble in. | 246.2291 |
169 | DTA_int_03 | 246.3543 | Mm-hm. | 246.6902 |
170 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 246.9772 | The marbles in where how many of youse playing and, | 249.8459 |
172 | | 250.0505 | uh, whatever the stakes was. So [you could be] one, two, three, or what. | 254.3069 |
173 | DTA_int_03 | 252.1314 | [Mm-hm.] | 252.4231 |
174 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 255.3207 | And then you draw a line back here, the- | 257.5512 |
176 | | 258.1100 | what would they call that line? We call that line- | 260.1420 |
178 | | 261.6841 | now there was space /??/ so forth. That's where you had to shoot from. | 264.6993 |
179 | DTA_int_03 | 264.8734 | What did you shoot with? [Your?] | 266.1107 |
180 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 266.0168 | [I] use- I u- usually I had a | 268.3406 |
181 | | 268.5787 | good, | 268.9496 |
183 | | 269.3191 | uh, onyx I'd shoot. I didn't use the agate, [see.] | 271.8916 |
184 | DTA_int_03 | 271.2931 | [/You said/ what?] | 271.8198 |
185 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 272.0351 | The onyx | 272.6000 |
186 | DTA_int_03 | 272.8871 | [Uh-huh.] | 273.0554 |
187 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 272.8993 | [marble. That's what it's called, I- good onyx. Good sized one. | 275.3510 |
188 | | 275.9939 | And you see, you would have to what- | 277.3929 |
190 | | 277.5006 | whatchu knocked out of there, that's what you won. What you knocked out of that ring when you shot | 281.2423 |
192 | | 281.3787 | in there, that's what- that's what you got. That's [whatchu won.] | 284.2153 |
193 | DTA_int_03 | 283.8092 | [Did you have] a special name for a big marble? | 285.7339 |
194 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 286.7603 | Uh, no I don't believe. I don't ever recall having a special name for a larger [one. No.] | 292.0780 |
195 | DTA_int_03 | 291.7437 | [What about] | 292.0841 |
196 | | 292.2690 | for the one you shot with? | 293.5212 |
197 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 293.9817 | And the one- that one- we'd just hit it and that was one that I used it as my shooting | 298.3070 |
198 | DTA_int_03 | 298.5014 | [Yeah.] | 298.6840 |
199 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 298.6473 | [uh,] | 299.1634 |
200 | DTA_int_03 | 299.0870 | [It's] your shooting [marble.] | 300.1602 |
201 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 299.6275 | [shooting m-] marble. Yes. W- one I shoot with, that's the only /unintelligible/. | 303.1680 |
202 | DTA_int_03 | 303.6840 | [What do] call the line that you shot from? | 305.7344 |
203 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 303.8428 | [/?/] | 303.9863 |
204 | | 305.7802 | That's what I was trying to think of a while ago, what we called that line. And that's where we got back to. And I can't think of any name we called it, we'd just | 312.2779 |
206 | | 312.4245 | space it off and draw | 313.5740 |
208 | | 313.8427 | one on each side of the- | 315.1313 |
210 | | 316.2276 | the ring. And | 317.2916 |
211 | DTA_int_03 | 317.5389 | Mm-hm. | 317.7619 |
212 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 317.8016 | you was in | 318.6099 |
214 | | 318.9375 | /?/- | 319.0291 |
216 | | 320.3221 | if- a- and that's where you | 321.5039 |
218 | | 321.7787 | started to shoot from. But if you happened to shoot and and your marble rolled beyond the other line on the other side, that's where you shot from. | 328.0169 |
219 | DTA_int_03 | 328.2031 | Mm-hm. | 328.5166 |
220 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 328.6031 | And I can't think of what we called this line. I don't know whether we had a name for it, now [or not.] | 332.4915 |
221 | DTA_int_03 | 332.0609 | [I called] it a tall line. | 333.5339 |
222 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 334.0627 | It could be, maybe [it w-] but I [don't r- y- yeah.] I don't remember whether we called it that or not. Mm-hm. | 340.4291 |
223 | DTA_int_03 | 335.3185 | [Oh.] | 335.5507 |
225 | | 336.3329 | [But you'd remember it if that /was it/.] | 337.7324 |
226 | | 341.2916 | Uh, | 341.5818 |
228 | | 341.7405 | did you ever- | 342.4458 |
230 | | 343.1359 | let's see. | 343.5465 |
232 | | 343.9832 | The girls would, but did you guys ever jump rope? | 346.3603 |
233 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 346.8183 | Oh, yeah. I jumped with the girls. I played with the girls, just like I did with the boys. I was a, | 351.2077 |
235 | | 351.8000 | uh, in fact, uh, | 353.2000 |
237 | | 353.3191 | yeah we'd jump rope and- of all kind, and- by ourself and then | 357.0550 |
239 | | 357.2840 | three or four of us | 358.1751 |
241 | | 358.6045 | takes the rope. | 359.0595 |
243 | | 359.2946 | One get a long rope /and I spent time here/ and I jump [rope. Uh.] | 361.9007 |
244 | DTA_int_03 | 361.6442 | [Did you ever] use two ropes? | 362.7649 |
245 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 363.1405 | No, never did. | 364.1665 |
247 | | 364.6595 | [Nah.] | 365.0290 |
248 | DTA_int_03 | 364.9007 | [Uh.] | 365.1572 |
249 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 365.2977 | What you mean? Two ropes that t- | 366.9741 |
251 | | 367.4962 | that- | 367.8280 |
252 | DTA_int_03 | 367.8488 | Jump [together.] | 368.5175 |
253 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 368.2916 | [n- no.] Never did. No, never did use two ropes. We never did use th- use two rope like that. | 372.7115 |
254 | DTA_int_03 | 373.2581 | [What did you] say when you jumped rope? | 374.7192 |
255 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 373.3633 | [What-] | 373.5190 |
256 | DTA_int_03 | 375.1741 | [With the long rope.] | 375.9995 |
257 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 375.2565 | [Mm-hm. There- with the long rope?] | 376.8946 |
258 | DTA_int_03 | 377.2885 | Did you say [anything special?] | 378.6107 |
259 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 377.9145 | [Uh, yes. We sang] this- we had little somethings. Well I can't think of that now, it's been so long. | 382.6137 |
260 | DTA_int_03 | 378.8245 | [Yeah.] | 379.0901 |
261 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 382.9465 | You know, I'm sixty-three years old and [going back] down there. [Y- <laugh>] You- you- you're really pulling me down. [<laugh>] (laughing) | 390.3580 |
262 | DTA_int_03 | 384.5756 | [/inaudible/.] | 385.0046 |
264 | | 385.9801 | [/Now that's/ /unintelligible/.] | 386.7374 |
266 | | 389.7160 | [Right.] | 390.2290 |
267 | | 390.3908 | I'm sorry. | 390.8608 |
268 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 390.9588 | Yeah, you- I- I can't think of what we did | 393.3603 |
270 | | 393.7451 | sing. But when they had a little | 395.4015 |
272 | | 395.7007 | song that we sang as they jump. Well a lot time they sang a little- some kind of little something, but [I can't] think of it. Uh, what it was when we jumped rope. | 401.9542 |
273 | DTA_int_03 | 399.5863 | [Mm-hm.] | 399.8327 |
274 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 402.5282 | Mm-hm. | 403.0901 |
276 | | 403.7114 | That- [uh, we] had the b- | 404.8229 |
277 | DTA_int_03 | 403.8641 | [Yeah.] | 404.1862 |
278 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 404.9969 | we had a lot of fun jumping rope. We | 406.6747 |
280 | | 406.9831 | played the b- | 407.8748 |
282 | | 408.1435 | that- | 408.6076 |
284 | | 409.4321 | that from /where from/- that from one to the other. And then we p- we had another /one/ | 412.4579 |
286 | | 413.0045 | /?/ | 413.1816 |
288 | | 413.3587 | uh, called leap frog. That's what the [boys played] too. [We-] | 416.4412 |
289 | DTA_int_03 | 415.5221 | [Mm-hm.] | 415.7858 |
291 | | 416.1603 | [Leap frog?] | 416.5877 |
292 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 416.9127 | And leap frog. Mm-hm, yeah. | 418.2133 |
293 | DTA_int_03 | 418.2550 | Now did you- | 418.9251 |
295 | | 419.0891 | did you kneel down or did you jump over people's [shoulders?] | 422.1114 |
296 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 421.9587 | [You] jumped right over- well, see the one with the- he wouldn't kneel down, he would stand and bow over, put his hands on his knees. And then you had to j- | 428.5175 |
297 | | 428.7984 | jump- | 429.0519 |
299 | | 429.7023 | hit his shoulders and jump | 430.9221 |
301 | | 431.2549 | over, see. And, | 432.3939 |
302 | DTA_int_03 | 432.4733 | Mm-hm. | 432.7211 |
303 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 432.8763 | leap frog and, uh, | 434.1938 |
305 | | 434.3435 | /one when/ called- we- we- we called- whatchu call, uh, | 437.3679 |
307 | | 437.8565 | he would set the goal, | 438.9130 |
309 | | 439.3344 | see. | 439.7509 |
311 | | 439.9557 | And this one would get down here and | 441.5374 |
313 | | 441.9221 | he'd get back here to start and jump. And | 444.2870 |
315 | | 445.0809 | he'd call that- | 445.6717 |
317 | | 445.8821 | that's over. | 446.8137 |
318 | DTA_int_03 | 447.1984 | [Mm-hm.] | 447.4336 |
319 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 447.3908 | [That] one jump, that's over. Now you'd have to jump, and this guy would walk up- | 450.8030 |
320 | | 451.1145 | well he wouldn't walk up there. | 452.0686 |
322 | | 453.1313 | And then all are made to jump, and when they over jump | 456.1339 |
324 | | 456.9893 | the guy that | 457.4687 |
326 | | 457.7052 | was the setter, | 458.5847 |
328 | | 458.7221 | [see.] | 459.1282 |
329 | DTA_int_03 | 459.0458 | [Mm-hm.] | 459.2900 |
330 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 460.2122 | He called them /?/ over. Well if all of 'em made it over | 463.0717 |
332 | | 463.9984 | this jump | 464.7022 |
334 | | 465.0458 | they was alright. | 465.9049 |
336 | | 466.1572 | But the guy that didn't make it over, | 467.6427 |
338 | | 467.8381 | then he was the guy that was down. He got down and let the other guy up, [see?] | 471.4916 |
339 | DTA_int_03 | 471.1771 | [Oh.] | 471.4484 |
340 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 472.1420 | Then this guy then proceeded after the jump, put this guy to- went down. He'd get out where the- | 476.9664 |
342 | | 477.6504 | he'd jumped to. | 478.3832 |
344 | | 478.9037 | So then | 479.4564 |
346 | | 479.5663 | he'd have to make it all the way and | 481.2542 |
348 | | 481.3655 | out further, and then he'd call that | 483.3847 |
350 | | 483.8183 | one and over. That's make- ma- mean making one step | 486.5496 |
351 | DTA_int_03 | 487.2794 | Mm-hm. | 487.5861 |
352 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 487.6686 | and then the jump | 488.6335 |
354 | | 488.8198 | over. Hit the guy and jump over, again so on until he got out /so far/. | 492.2784 |
356 | | 492.6687 | And the- when this set- when this setter- | 494.5266 |
358 | | 494.9267 | if somebody out-jumped the setter, | 496.6319 |
360 | | 497.3190 | then the setter was the guy that went down, [see.] | 499.3230 |
361 | DTA_int_03 | 499.1603 | [Uh-huh.] | 499.5478 |
362 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 499.5526 | [<laugh>] So he was- | 501.6809 |
363 | DTA_int_03 | 500.1083 | [Uh-huh.] | 500.4737 |
364 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 502.1725 | uh, he was the one that had to be the- | 503.9541 |
365 | DTA_int_03 | 504.2656 | How [did you decide] who was the setter? | 506.2762 |
366 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 504.5190 | [/the other guy/.] | 504.9649 |
367 | | 507.0030 | Well, uh, | 507.7481 |
369 | | 508.0473 | we just, uh, | 509.0839 |
371 | | 509.2769 | come out and they- | 510.6503 |
373 | | 511.1084 | we'd mostly | 511.8625 |
375 | | 511.9558 | choose that between ourself. I don't think we had any particular way to decide. Just somebody say, | 515.6549 |
377 | | 516.0641 | well I'll- I'll be the- uh, | 518.1052 |
379 | | 518.4991 | I'll be the setter. | 519.3981 |
381 | | 519.5596 | Well okay. | 520.1969 |
383 | | 520.4107 | He'd be the setter, well | 521.4019 |
385 | | 521.9816 | I say to the guy, if I'm a better jumper than you would be | 524.8259 |
387 | | 525.3541 | I'd be glad to let you be the setter, see. | 527.3098 |
388 | DTA_int_03 | 527.7159 | [Mm-hm.] | 528.0526 |
389 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 527.9785 | [S-] cause I wouldn't have to be the chance to- m- him getting down, but I could out jump you anytime. Whenever you set. | 532.8946 |
390 | | 533.0489 | And | 533.2427 |
391 | DTA_int_03 | 533.2945 | Mm-hm. | 533.5602 |
392 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 533.5602 | I'd be glad. But the guy that was down | 535.6397 |
393 | | 536.5236 | he'd be the guy, well, he'd take his- oh, yeah I'd go- I'll be the first down guy. And, [uh,] | 540.9282 |
394 | DTA_int_03 | 540.8671 | [Mm-hm.] | 541.1298 |
395 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 541.2000 | at that, we didn't say, we didn't have a | 542.6762 |
397 | | 542.8259 | way of | 543.2917 |
399 | | 543.4457 | choosing one /the more in that way/. | 544.8609 |
401 | | 545.8656 | But the guy that, uh, did the setting, uh, | 548.3129 |
403 | | 549.2595 | and- p- and a lot of the b- guys- the best jumpers, they's try to stay out of being the setter, because he would | 553.4565 |
405 | | 553.9037 | <laugh> you know, they could beat this guy at jumping. And that's happening. Uh, mm-hm. | 557.6976 |
406 | DTA_int_03 | 558.1892 | But, | 558.4885 |
407 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 558.5862 | [Yeah.] | 558.8366 |
408 | DTA_int_03 | 558.7643 | [setting for, /inaudible/.] | 560.3373 |
409 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 559.4656 | [Set- yeah. And-] yeah. And then | 561.2717 |
410 | | 561.6373 | /??/ folk, you put him down there, see. Get [him down.] (laughing) | 564.4213 |
411 | DTA_int_03 | 564.1373 | [Yeah.] | 564.3652 |
412 | | 565.5349 | Uh, let's see, | 566.4381 |
414 | | 566.7342 | did you ever play any games with chalk on the sidewalk? | 569.3953 |
415 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 570.4335 | Mm, no. [I] never played- I- we never played that when I was a kid. | 574.7685 |
416 | DTA_int_03 | 571.2895 | [/inaudible/.] | 571.6784 |
417 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 574.8654 | And, uh, I played that | 576.2399 |
419 | | 577.3526 | with my kid. | 578.5005 |
420 | DTA_int_03 | 578.6312 | Yeah. | 578.8197 |
422 | | 579.0396 | Yeah. | 579.2320 |
423 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 579.5648 | I played that with my kids. I never played that when I was a kid. I played- | 583.4759 |
425 | | 583.9678 | we called it hopscotch, and played it then. | 586.0686 |
427 | | 586.4290 | We- but I play- I did play that with my kids. Not too much, I'd just get out sometimes when they was playing, and I'd say, let me show you how to do it, and | 593.6701 |
428 | DTA_int_03 | 593.9846 | /Mm-hm/. | 594.2564 |
429 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 594.3144 | try to do it, and of course I could do about as good as they could at the time, cause I played with 'em | 598.5755 |
431 | | 598.8976 | often, up til they was all grown. I- when I came up with my children, I played with all of 'em. We'd get out and run- | 604.3717 |
433 | | 605.9052 | I have three | 607.2999 |
435 | | 607.8151 | girls and two boys. And | 609.9905 |
437 | | 610.1816 | they would try to whip me, but they couldn't handle me. | 613.1450 |
439 | | 613.3831 | /So/. <laugh> | 614.7705 |
441 | | 615.4396 | That was the way that went. And I played with them all along. | 618.0576 |
443 | | 618.9251 | Mm-hm. | 619.4595 |
444 | DTA_int_03 | 619.6410 | Did you ever play any running games? Where one person would chase everybody else? | 623.1968 |
445 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 625.1480 | N- no, I don't recall that one, where that one- | 628.5840 |
447 | | 629.4594 | I've saw kids play, but I don't remember us playing any running games. Except for the- back when I was a kid, I've saw other kids play it, but I didn't | 637.3284 |
449 | | 637.4540 | play. I- I didn't play that /any/. | 639.0271 |
451 | | 639.8030 | I played, uh, | 640.7754 |
453 | | 641.1724 | uh, | 641.6368 |
455 | | 643.3801 | what was that game? When you said running games, I- | 645.6075 |
457 | | 648.2045 | this was a game which I- p- and you- | 650.2834 |
459 | | 651.2167 | probably never heard of. We played this one was uh, | 654.2472 |
461 | | 656.4136 | we call it, uh, | 658.0045 |
463 | | 658.9006 | herding sheep. | 659.8105 |
464 | DTA_int_03 | 660.4396 | Mm-hm. | 660.7724 |
465 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 661.8487 | And we'd get a- it'd be a bunch of us and we'd get- find all the tin cups we could find. | 666.4216 |
466 | DTA_int_03 | 666.9984 | Tin cups? | 667.5847 |
467 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 667.6777 | Mm-hm. | 668.1998 |
469 | | 668.3922 | [Tin cans.] | 669.1434 |
470 | DTA_int_03 | 668.4594 | [/And what would you do/?] | 669.1995 |
471 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 669.5892 | We had a stick and we'd knock 'em along in a bunch. And all of us would go out along ahead and we'd knock 'em along /at some point/. And | 676.1113 |
473 | | 676.8334 | oh, we'd | 677.3220 |
475 | | 677.6059 | take 'em, | 678.2346 |
477 | | 678.3853 | uh, then, uh, we'd hit- | 679.8853 |
479 | | 680.1235 | wouldn't be- | 680.8808 |
481 | | 681.3327 | what I mean- it wasn't a road, it would be the- | 683.5923 |
483 | | 684.8060 | take 'em down through the | 686.0258 |
485 | | 686.4105 | pasture here, and we'd drive 'em, push 'em here to /Puritan around there./ | 690.2899 |
487 | | 690.4731 | And then- | 690.7846 |
488 | DTA_int_03 | 690.7846 | /?/ | 690.9094 |
489 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 690.9587 | turn around and bring 'em back. We'd have 'em tin cups, all the tin cups. We kept- we called it herding sheep. (laughing) | 695.6701 |
491 | | 695.8441 | [<laugh>] /We would/. | 697.9534 |
492 | DTA_int_03 | 696.2197 | [/inaudible/] | 697.0455 |
493 | | 697.9965 | We used to do that with tires, some people do /inaudible/ and then rolling 'em like [/inaudible/] | 701.9515 |
494 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 701.7708 | [I mean-] well- uh, not automobile tires, I did that with a, | 704.7372 |
495 | | 704.8624 | uh, | 705.6548 |
497 | | 706.6335 | well what we would call it, | 707.7922 |
499 | | 707.9968 | uh, | 708.4273 |
501 | | 708.5281 | w- | 708.7646 |
503 | | 709.3249 | wagon wheel bands. | 710.9754 |
504 | DTA_int_03 | 711.0395 | [Uh-huh.] | 711.2991 |
505 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 711.2747 | [See,] this was a big | 712.2090 |
506 | | 712.5402 | band, about this high. | 713.8464 |
507 | DTA_int_03 | 714.0823 | Yeah. | 714.2960 |
509 | | 714.7785 | [Would you roll it with] your hand [or] | 716.0593 |
510 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 714.8548 | [Goes all the way.] | 715.4686 |
512 | | 715.8609 | [Yeah- yeah. Rolled] with a hand. | 717.5106 |
513 | DTA_int_03 | 716.2615 | [a stick.] | 716.4774 |
514 | | 717.7052 | Uh-huh. | 717.9281 |
515 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 718.0197 | We didn't do- we- we would roll with our hands. And see who could beat the other in rolling the with- w- with their hands. Roll- | 723.7724 |
517 | | 724.3373 | course, we'd just run races. And I'd beat you, and that'd be it. And we'd turn around and b- yeah, we rolled them for | 730.1419 |
518 | DTA_int_03 | 730.4381 | [<laugh>] | 730.9323 |
519 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 730.8153 | [miles.] This wasn't the | 732.6197 |
520 | | 733.0533 | tire, it was a | 734.1051 |
522 | | 734.8930 | wagon wheel band, which is stood about that high, you [see /yeah/.] | 737.4044 |
523 | DTA_int_03 | 737.1906 | [Bet it rolled better than a tire.] | 738.6834 |
524 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 737.8227 | [And it roll- and it had] roll- | 739.1327 |
525 | | 739.3800 | and it wouldn't be anything. Wouldn't be any spokes in it. | 741.3021 |
527 | | 741.5434 | /Fact it was/ just the band that goes around- went around the [whole thing] see. | 744.6691 |
528 | DTA_int_03 | 743.9846 | [Mm.] | 744.2414 |
529 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 745.1022 | Then we'd roll that. | 745.8425 |
531 | | 745.9677 | And we had- (laughing) we didn't roll no tires. | 748.1602 |
533 | | 748.5663 | My kid rolled out a big old tire (laughing). | 750.3937 |
535 | | 750.7510 | Back then, when I was playing, wasn't any | 752.6914 |
537 | | 752.9296 | tires to roll. | 753.9617 |
539 | | 754.7662 | Probably the parent caught you rolling the tire, <laugh> you would roll out another cause (laughing) he want it for his car. | 760.1357 |
541 | | 761.0807 | [Mm.] | 761.4044 |
542 | DTA_int_03 | 761.0990 | [Oh these] were generally junk things. | 762.9313 |
543 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 762.9342 | Uh-huh. [Yeah, I know] | 764.0776 |
544 | DTA_int_03 | 763.2830 | [Mm.] | 763.5456 |
545 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 764.5051 | Well, I- you know, you see some kids now, you see some kids now with practically a brand new tire, out and rolling it out in the street right now. I have saw 'em with it and | 771.7052 |
547 | | 772.4380 | [Uh.] | 772.6440 |
548 | DTA_int_03 | 772.4380 | [With] Papa [chasing 'em.] | 773.5632 |
549 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 773.3433 | [<laugh>] Well, I don't know. (laughing) | 775.2701 |
550 | DTA_int_03 | 776.1509 | Let's see, what are your favorite TV programs? Do you watch TV? | 779.1912 |
551 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 779.7525 | Yeah, I watch TV. I've got uh, some right now I watch | 784.3342 |
553 | | 784.8120 | is, uh, | 785.5662 |
555 | | 786.8365 | I like- which I like, | 788.1675 |
557 | | 788.3074 | Western plays, but [I] watch uh, Bonanza. | 791.3097 |
558 | DTA_int_03 | 789.5494 | [Hm.] | 789.7337 |
559 | | 791.5784 | Mm. | 791.8672 |
560 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 792.2410 | I watch, uh, | 793.7779 |
562 | | 796.0423 | Branded. | 796.8059 |
564 | | 797.5143 | I wanna see that | 798.3632 |
566 | | 798.8914 | uh, McCord- get- McCord | 801.1968 |
567 | DTA_int_03 | 801.7662 | [Mm-hm.] | 802.0197 |
568 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 801.8578 | [get] out of the scrape that he's in. And I saw him last night, he was good. But he had a good one last night. | 807.1189 |
569 | | 807.8212 | Then I [wa-] | 808.3739 |
570 | DTA_int_03 | 808.1163 | [What's it about?] | 808.7857 |
571 | | 808.9036 | Can you [tell me?] | 809.3984 |
572 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 809.1906 | [This- what] it was about last night, it was about a, uh, | 811.9555 |
573 | | 813.1433 | Well, this one he had a- | 814.5724 |
575 | | 816.8945 | he was- had gone out and run into a shack here. | 820.1225 |
577 | | 820.5602 | And it was four men had this uh, I forget the name, but I didn't when- in fact I'd n- | 825.3051 |
579 | | 825.6013 | I didn't see the name of it when it started. | 827.4807 |
581 | | 827.9601 | Because I was putting my wife to bed, [see- she] my wife's an invalid. | 831.2706 |
582 | DTA_int_03 | 829.9997 | [Mm-hm. | 830.2939 |
583 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 831.9586 | And, uh, | 832.5601 |
585 | | 834.3815 | these guys, when he rode out to the- up out in this uh, | 837.5922 |
587 | | 838.1113 | desert you might call that out here, by- he rode up to this here shack and he heard voices and he s- | 843.5128 |
589 | | 843.6258 | got off his horse and went n- | 845.0349 |
591 | | 846.3601 | knocked on the door, and one came to the door and | 848.8325 |
593 | | 850.7753 | there then asked him what was that? They said, ain't nothing up here that I can't take care of. | 854.3005 |
595 | | 855.0792 | He asked him- says- he asked | 856.1510 |
597 | | 856.2914 | McCord, what are you doing here? | 857.8715 |
599 | | 858.4334 | Said he was hunting job | 859.6440 |
601 | | 859.7631 | as a miner. | 860.7066 |
602 | DTA_int_03 | 861.2154 | Mm-hm. | 861.4792 |
603 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 861.6899 | Cause they did have a sign up, mining. | 863.5083 |
605 | | 864.9250 | Said they didn't need no hands, no harm. Says uh, best thing you can do is get on that horse and get out of here. | 870.3686 |
606 | DTA_int_03 | 870.6960 | [Mm-hm.] | 871.0123 |
607 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 870.8425 | [And] then this guy drawed his gun and | 872.6871 |
608 | | 873.2257 | McCord looked at him and turned around, he went back and got on his uh, | 876.3906 |
610 | | 878.0593 | to get on his horse. Well, this guy turned around, went on back in his house and McCord plays to getting on his horse, stood and listened. | 883.4258 |
612 | | 885.5280 | And they had a man tied up in there see. | 888.0456 |
614 | | 888.6196 | And this man went there to | 890.1967 |
616 | | 890.5845 | kill the man. | 891.3448 |
618 | | 892.9738 | And they had this man tied up in there tell him that they was going to, uh, | 896.0077 |
620 | | 896.3005 | kill him and so McCord heard him say that I didn't kill the man. | 899.7891 |
622 | | 901.1998 | I- uh, the man did something else. So McCord went back and | 904.6181 |
624 | | 905.2700 | busted in on 'em, see. | 906.6153 |
626 | | 907.9280 | And | 908.3554 |
628 | | 909.3845 | cutting it a little short, he- uh, | 910.9951 |
630 | | 911.7005 | and immediately | 912.4792 |
632 | | 912.7876 | he got the best of 'em and got the man loose. Made 'em /?/ | 915.1707 |
634 | | 915.6624 | loosened the man, and took the man away | 917.5539 |
636 | | 918.6043 | and then he ran into a lieutenant that had saw him at this, uh, | 922.7694 |
638 | | 924.1280 | place where he's supposed to | 925.9768 |
640 | | 926.3096 | run away and left this man. | 927.7937 |
642 | | 928.0823 | I forget- can't call the name of that as much as I look at it. | 930.5250 |
644 | | 931.2639 | You know, when you're doing something on a | 932.3951 |
646 | | 933.2898 | ye- if- it leaves you. <laugh> | 934.7692 |
648 | | 935.0867 | I- | 935.2333 |
650 | | 935.5631 | So, anyhow, he met a man had- had | 937.1906 |
652 | | 937.3494 | saw him there. | 938.3463 |
654 | | 939.6196 | Uh, Lieutenant. And this lieutenant spo- they had spoke to him, he hadn't saw him in so long. | 944.4562 |
656 | | 945.0578 | Wanted to know what he was doing out there | 947.4262 |
658 | | 947.9264 | in this | 948.3997 |
660 | | 948.6165 | place where he was. And he told him he was | 950.7554 |
662 | | 951.0577 | out looking for this work and | 952.7050 |
663 | DTA_int_03 | 953.1142 | Mm. | 953.3096 |
664 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 953.4898 | he run into this man. | 954.9616 |
666 | | 957.2715 | And this man had told him that he saw him at this | 960.4623 |
668 | | 960.5952 | uh, place | 961.8964 |
670 | | 962.3585 | and he did not run off and leave his man. | 964.6775 |
672 | | 966.7265 | And, uh, | 967.8468 |
674 | | 969.0089 | so, | 969.5738 |
676 | | 970.3769 | this guy told this lieutenant then, of this army | 973.4036 |
678 | | 974.1905 | that, uh, he- uh, | 975.2043 |
680 | | 977.2882 | he thought if he | 978.2074 |
682 | | 978.5158 | told him what had happened, they could send that | 981.0333 |
684 | | 981.9127 | to the government and McCord would get another trial. | 984.5865 |
685 | DTA_int_03 | 985.1676 | Mm-hm. | 985.7089 |
686 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 986.8837 | And so | 987.9315 |
688 | | 988.2059 | they tooked him then to this here, | 990.1887 |
690 | | 990.2820 | uh, camp where these- uh, | 991.6653 |
692 | | 991.8791 | this lieutenant was | 992.8806 |
694 | | 993.5097 | there for something. I forget what they were really there for because they didn't tell that particular- | 997.9128 |
696 | | 998.2821 | But this /happened/ and he gave him a written statement and sign when he was there. | 1001.5600 |
698 | | 1002.3661 | Then him and McCord left. | 1003.7386 |
700 | | 1005.4761 | So, when he left and got away- | 1007.1447 |
702 | | 1007.6577 | uh, | 1008.3417 |
704 | | 1010.1386 | and then he told McCord that he- he- he did not see him. Well, now, in other words, McCord they caught him- it was all a lie, and he'd made up. | 1016.6943 |
706 | | 1018.4959 | And McCord and him got into it, and McCord knocked him out and then | 1022.8562 |
708 | | 1023.2806 | put him on his horse and to- told him he was taking him back to this camp. | 1026.4516 |
710 | | 1028.2058 | And, uh, | 1029.1554 |
712 | | 1030.5143 | so, he told McCord i- why- well, what difference does it make that you- uh, you would be a free man. Uh. He says he didn't | 1037.1844 |
714 | | 1037.3462 | wanna go free, not like that. | 1038.9890 |
716 | | 1039.1845 | It- | 1039.3982 |
718 | | 1039.7294 | so, he took him back to this lieutenant, | 1041.3600 |
720 | | 1042.0348 | got the- | 1042.7508 |
722 | | 1043.9142 | Saw the lieutenant, and told him that he wanted to see that ledger that he had and then /lib-/ kind of got it and took the | 1048.6593 |
724 | | 1048.7670 | ledger, and then tore the sheet out and tore it out. | 1050.6104 |
726 | | 1051.8485 | And the- | 1052.7065 |
728 | | 1053.9035 | told the lieutenant what had happened. | 1055.6607 |
730 | | 1055.8653 | And- uh, and so. | 1056.9371 |
732 | | 1058.4775 | Then uh, he uh. | 1059.7790 |
734 | | 1059.9889 | This guy says, well what difference does it make? And he told the lieutenant, he di- well didn't want it that way | 1064.8104 |
736 | | 1065.4883 | at all. | 1065.9298 |
738 | | 1066.3813 | So, he took the guy and left | 1068.0333 |
740 | | 1068.4150 | and the lieutenant went off and this- /inaudible/. | 1071.0241 |
742 | | 1071.3356 | But was hi- he was good, that one. | 1072.8028 |
744 | | 1073.1355 | Then [Bona-] | 1073.7035 |
745 | DTA_int_03 | 1073.6485 | [Mm-hm.] | 1073.8579 |
746 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1074.1462 | Bonanza ha- they was. | 1075.6775 |
748 | | 1076.7249 | It was a | 1077.1432 |
750 | | 1077.2501 | good one. And it was a good play, I'd like- like it. And there was another one. Oh, I was going to say it's this bowling. | 1082.7249 |
751 | DTA_int_03 | 1083.1615 | Mm-hm. | 1083.4424 |
752 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1083.4424 | I like to see it's- | 1084.5814 |
753 | | 1085.1386 | it's only on Sunday night. It comes on at eleven thirty, and the rest of the week, it comes on at one | 1090.5217 |
755 | | 1090.8149 | o'clock. And I don't stay up to see it. /?/ | 1092.7386 |
757 | | 1093.0536 | But it's a | 1093.5309 |
759 | | 1093.6683 | match game on, uh, bowling on [TV.] | 1096.0234 |
760 | DTA_int_03 | 1095.5832 | [Mm-hm.] | 1095.8009 |
761 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1096.9187 | Amateur and a pro. | 1098.2898 |
763 | | 1098.4913 | I don't know what he is. Maybe it [started] in ni- | 1100.2027 |
764 | DTA_int_03 | 1099.7569 | [I-] | 1099.8851 |
765 | | 1100.3370 | I | 1100.5783 |
767 | | 1100.7096 | I've watched it once, I [think.] | 1101.9914 |
768 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1101.9188 | [And] now but I watch it every Sunday night, because that's the onliest night I get to see it. I ain't gonna stay up til one [o'clock] to see it. | 1107.3814 |
769 | DTA_int_03 | 1106.7248 | [Mm-hm.] | 1106.9661 |
770 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1107.9676 | And uh, I watch that one quite often. Then there's Bonanza. | 1111.0094 |
772 | | 1111.2058 | I [watch it too.] | 1111.9523 |
773 | DTA_int_03 | 1111.5227 | [Do you bowl?] | 1111.9370 |
774 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1113.0210 | I did until my uh, | 1115.3187 |
776 | | 1115.9539 | condition, in which it. I'm- see, I'm retired. | 1118.7493 |
777 | DTA_int_03 | 1118.8775 | Mm-hm. | 1119.1310 |
778 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1119.3753 | Cause I've been retired since sixty-one. I have a | 1121.5202 |
780 | | 1122.6378 | heart [condition.] | 1123.7905 |
781 | DTA_int_03 | 1123.5034 | [Mm-hm.] | 1123.7905 |
782 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1124.4836 | And /unintelligible/, | 1126.0592 |
784 | | 1126.3005 | ulcers. | 1127.2973 |
785 | DTA_int_03 | 1127.7218 | Alright. | 1128.1890 |
786 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1128.6959 | <laugh> | 1129.0256 |
787 | DTA_int_03 | 1128.9401 | [Um.] | 1129.2821 |
788 | | 1129.4318 | Real g- [/unintelligible/ (laughing)] | 1131.2623 |
789 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1129.9126 | [<laugh>] So, | 1131.7753 |
790 | | 1132.3385 | so, uh, but up until then, | 1134.0681 |
792 | | 1134.1823 | I, uh, | 1135.1234 |
794 | | 1135.7202 | I gone to Chicago and that's when Joe Louis, | 1138.0104 |
796 | | 1138.1539 | he had a | 1138.8149 |
798 | | 1139.4500 | bowling team at that time. That's when he was in his prime | 1141.9593 |
800 | | 1142.1509 | boxing. | 1142.6180 |
802 | | 1144.3005 | And I- I've lived | 1145.6851 |
804 | | 1145.8531 | in Indiana, I was at /RD-WORK-7/, as I was talking about, then I was in Indiana | 1149.5432 |
806 | | 1149.8363 | and I lived there | 1150.9004 |
808 | | 1152.2103 | but we would go up to Chicago quite often. See, I went up to Chicago and happened to | 1155.6989 |
810 | | 1157.2118 | go in the bowling alley there. I didn't know Joe Louis's team was there and was bowling. | 1161.4546 |
812 | | 1163.1141 | And uh, | 1163.8622 |
814 | | 1164.8852 | one of the guy come over, he says, how'd you like to join our team? | 1167.2764 |
816 | | 1169.1843 | And I says, well, I don't know. He says, well, this is, uh, this is Joe Louis's team. He says | 1173.4388 |
818 | | 1173.5393 | I see what you bowling and your score, you see, well I'd like to get you on our team. I says, | 1177.6042 |
820 | | 1178.6271 | I said, well I don't live here in, uh, Chicago. | 1180.9187 |
822 | | 1181.5202 | I says, I live in Indiana. He says, oh, you see, but- | 1183.6835 |
824 | | 1184.0897 | I was- At that time, I was- I'd bowl, my average was around | 1187.9569 |
826 | | 1188.2225 | a | 1188.5523 |
828 | | 1189.4501 | hundred and eighty, two hundred. | 1190.7330 |
830 | | 1191.1859 | I was [a-] | 1191.5496 |
831 | DTA_int_03 | 1191.4760 | [Pretty] good. | 1191.8485 |
832 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1191.8350 | And I hadn't been bowling too long at that time, | 1194.2164 |
833 | | 1194.8913 | And then I bowled /clean up/ until I came here. | 1197.4577 |
834 | DTA_int_03 | 1197.9035 | Mm-hm. | 1198.2546 |
835 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1199.3859 | I left /RD-WORK-2/. That's where I bowled at, see, at /RD-WORK-7/, and I came here. | 1203.5101 |
837 | | 1204.9828 | And after I got here, I went to work in a factory and that was all new to me. I hadn't worked in a factory. When I went to work in a factory and I got in the factory and that cut all the bowling time out cause I wasn't a man to | 1215.1370 |
839 | | 1216.3768 | um, go out without my wife. | 1218.0424 |
841 | | 1218.1523 | [And.] | 1218.5034 |
842 | DTA_int_03 | 1218.2439 | [Mm-hm.] | 1218.6154 |
843 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1218.8058 | So, | 1219.2049 |
845 | | 1219.5814 | I worked | 1220.2912 |
847 | | 1220.6210 | afternoons. | 1221.8729 |
849 | | 1223.5782 | I come home, | 1224.4515 |
851 | | 1225.0897 | at about, uh, | 1226.3156 |
853 | | 1227.2134 | twelve thirty at night, well- | 1228.8057 |
855 | | 1228.9889 | then the next morning, I'd get- I was late when I got up, /??/ so I helped the wife. I got no time to [bowl.] I had enough. | 1235.1751 |
856 | DTA_int_03 | 1234.4057 | [Mm.] | 1234.5454 |
857 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1235.4072 | M- s- | 1235.6637 |
859 | | 1236.2561 | At like- | 1236.6195 |
861 | | 1236.8729 | would not take off of work time. | 1238.1092 |
863 | | 1238.3388 | /I'm not that way-/ Work | 1239.6378 |
865 | | 1239.9157 | and | 1240.2790 |
867 | | 1240.7629 | me, with me, work | 1242.1767 |
869 | | 1244.3461 | comes first. | 1245.6225 |
871 | | 1246.0867 | And everything, and taking care of the home and- course, all at that has to be taken care of at home. After I had taken care of home, then if I- we had time to- | 1252.0348 |
873 | | 1252.8484 | I mean for myself. | 1254.0689 |
874 | DTA_int_03 | 1254.9034 | [Mm.] | 1255.1080 |
875 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1254.9920 | [But] I sure well- I feel like I might have a- | 1256.9410 |
876 | | 1257.7569 | But I tried to take care of the kids, the home and everything and she does /then/ that was- we | 1261.8087 |
878 | | 1262.0530 | Course all of 'em is grown now, but I still got my grandchildren around to- | 1265.4097 |
880 | | 1266.0881 | It's, um, just [li-] | 1267.3324 |
881 | DTA_int_03 | 1267.0286 | [/inaudible/] you're busy. | 1267.7242 |
882 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1267.8545 | Just like this morning. I was | 1269.1599 |
884 | | 1269.2855 | saying I ain't gonna get up too early. I didn't have to get up. Uh. I s- I'm not gonna get up too early. | 1273.2332 |
886 | | 1274.1049 | I was laying bed. Then, here come one and knocks on the door. | 1277.4133 |
888 | | 1277.6026 | Grandpa. | 1278.2408 |
890 | | 1279.5044 | That's my | 1280.1263 |
892 | | 1280.8988 | daughter's | 1281.7233 |
894 | | 1282.2821 | she lives upstairs, see. | 1283.7217 |
896 | | 1284.9676 | I say, yeah. What is it? | 1285.9864 |
898 | | 1287.1370 | Will you drive us to school? | 1288.6485 |
900 | | 1288.7904 | Then he goes (laughing). <laugh> I says well (laughing). | 1291.4972 |
902 | | 1292.5782 | I says, alright. Give me | 1294.5736 |
904 | | 1294.9614 | Give me time. Yeah. I'll get up. And I got up (laughing) [<laugh> /unintelligible/] | 1298.6240 |
905 | DTA_int_03 | 1297.2255 | [/inaudible/] | 1297.8453 |
907 | | 1298.2087 | [/unintelligible/] | 1299.2101 |
908 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1298.9019 | [/S- took 'em/] to school. I says my, yeah. I planned on taking me a good rest this morning. And I'd get up. | 1304.1978 |
909 | DTA_int_03 | 1304.6148 | Uh-huh. | 1304.9965 |
910 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1304.9965 | So, I got up. And after I got up and taken them to school, and then it's been /RD-NAME-2/ | 1308.5523 |
911 | | 1308.7721 | so and so, grandpa, so and so. | 1310.9171 |
913 | | 1312.1172 | Then that it- uh. | 1313.1624 |
915 | | 1313.2987 | Do this for hisself and that's my busiest. I stay busy all day from t- t- By the time I get up, go ahead, /?/ I got something to do. | 1320.4881 |
917 | | 1321.6774 | Even though | 1322.2545 |
919 | | 1322.6026 | fellow right up here, | 1323.5309 |
921 | | 1325.5018 | live right up the street here, he says to me | 1327.5827 |
923 | | 1328.0560 | about two weeks ago, says, uh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, he says, uh, | 1331.4896 |
925 | | 1333.4500 | we were just talking about you, we know you're retired. Course, um, | 1337.2363 |
927 | | 1337.4835 | the retirement it's /yours/, says but, m- you don't just take it easy now or nothing. | 1341.8973 |
929 | | 1343.0988 | I says, well I don't know what you call, take it easy or not. My- one of my son has a filling station and I | 1348.4469 |
931 | | 1348.6896 | run that for him at uh, | 1350.0637 |
932 | DTA_int_03 | 1350.8973 | Oh do [you?] | 1351.2659 |
933 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1351.1233 | [po-] even from four to ten at night, see. | 1353.2316 |
934 | | 1353.6713 | <laugh> | 1353.9935 |
936 | | 1354.6210 | And so, he says, uh, | 1356.1858 |
938 | | 1356.6561 | I- I- I says, well, I don't know whether I take it easy or not. I says, now I get up in the morning. I says | 1361.8141 |
940 | | 1361.9629 | get my wife up. | 1362.7660 |
942 | | 1363.0194 | Wash and | 1363.7629 |
944 | | 1363.9858 | bathe her. | 1364.7339 |
946 | | 1365.9706 | Fix some breakfast and help clean the house, and I says I'll wash. | 1369.6651 |
948 | | 1371.2255 | I said, of course, I don't do much ironing. I says and | 1374.2569 |
950 | | 1375.0377 | then I says, I do the running from here to the store, the shopping. I says, and then at four o'clock, I says I take off, and go to the filling station and | 1383.0457 |
952 | | 1383.7385 | there til ten. And we- | 1385.0987 |
954 | | 1385.6087 | He says, you mean you work at night | 1387.4046 |
956 | | 1387.5482 | do you? <laugh> I says yeah. | 1388.9598 |
958 | | 1389.5125 | He says, well, oh he says well, uh, we didn't know, uh, I says, /actually-/ exactly, I says yeah, I run the station. No- nobody but me from | 1396.4591 |
960 | | 1396.7659 | four o'clock til ten at night, I says. | 1398.8781 |
962 | | 1399.2423 | And then, but. | 1399.8214 |
964 | | 1400.6453 | He said well, I don't guess you do take it easy. He [said, we] got you wrong. We thought (laughing) you weren't busy. | 1405.5369 |
965 | DTA_int_03 | 1402.8614 | [<laugh>] | 1403.1994 |
966 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1406.3858 | So, I do. | 1407.1033 |
968 | | 1407.7965 | But, | 1408.3584 |
970 | | 1408.5355 | that's my living. I- | 1409.7858 |
972 | | 1410.4118 | well, I mean I- | 1411.5049 |
974 | | 1412.7491 | always gonna | 1413.7293 |
976 | | 1414.9796 | joy out of doing things for other people. | 1417.2733 |
978 | | 1417.6271 | I- I- I do that more then | 1419.6408 |
980 | | 1419.9309 | have all my life, and [that's] uh. | 1422.2133 |
981 | DTA_int_03 | 1421.6087 | [Mm-hm.] | 1421.8682 |
982 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1424.1873 | If I do something for you, I don't expect for you to do something for me. Most people lives that way, you [know.] | 1429.9338 |
983 | DTA_int_03 | 1429.8636 | [Mm.] | 1430.1384 |
984 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1431.0789 | Uh. I- Well, they don't do so and so for me and. | 1434.0392 |
985 | DTA_int_03 | 1434.3843 | Why should I? | 1434.9828 |
986 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1435.0805 | Why should I do it for. Well, I- I don't do nothing for you to do nothing for me, because I- | 1439.7369 |
988 | | 1440.5888 | I feel which it always proved to me, that I get it | 1443.2926 |
990 | | 1443.4942 | to- | 1443.8972 |
992 | | 1444.2545 | maybe two fold the other way, aro- other way around. | 1446.9431 |
994 | | 1447.5996 | I [know.] | 1448.0010 |
995 | DTA_int_03 | 1447.9277 | [Bread] on the water. | 1448.8855 |
996 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1449.1033 | Well that's right. I- uh, | 1450.2515 |
998 | | 1451.4064 | At this filling station, I- | 1453.0347 |
1000 | | 1453.3339 | man wrote- he wrote me a letter. I got that out at the filling station. I put that in a frame. | 1457.3399 |
1002 | | 1459.3125 | He was a white fella. He drove in the station one night in- | 1461.7904 |
1004 | | 1462.7750 | just a little before I was getting ready to close. | 1464.5980 |
1006 | | 1466.6697 | And I went out and says, yeah sir, what can I do for you? He says, well, he says, uh | 1470.9400 |
1008 | | 1471.3156 | you know, he says, I just ran out of gas, so it just rolled in. | 1474.1507 |
1010 | | 1474.6590 | I didn't drive in, it rolled in. | 1476.2010 |
1012 | | 1477.7515 | As I find, I haven't got my billfold with me. | 1480.4621 |
1014 | | 1481.5384 | And | 1482.0667 |
1016 | | 1482.5186 | I haven't got no money. | 1483.5629 |
1018 | | 1484.6422 | And he says, you don't know me. | 1486.1810 |
1020 | | 1486.2779 | I says, no. | 1487.1139 |
1022 | | 1488.5797 | And he just wondered if I could leave something uh, to get fifty cents worth of gas. Says, uh. I says, well how far do you live? Where do you live? But and- he told me, I says, oh, well. And I | 1497.7384 |
1024 | | 1498.1568 | put a dollar's worth in, and | 1499.5201 |
1026 | | 1501.0621 | he said, well uh, uh, | 1502.4743 |
1028 | | 1502.6788 | Uh. Can I leave something? I says, well. I says | 1505.6666 |
1030 | | 1505.8193 | you'll be back one day. | 1506.7598 |
1032 | | 1509.0056 | So, | 1509.3262 |
1034 | | 1509.5552 | he- uh, | 1510.0385 |
1036 | | 1511.1170 | I /put it in/ | 1512.1338 |
1038 | | 1512.4147 | uh. | 1512.9155 |
1040 | | 1514.3124 | He thanked me and drove on. | 1515.7018 |
1042 | | 1516.7597 | And uh, | 1517.6422 |
1044 | | 1517.9628 | I guess about | 1518.7628 |
1046 | | 1520.0987 | oh, it was maybe | 1521.8667 |
1048 | | 1522.1171 | two months. | 1522.9154 |
1049 | DTA_int_03 | 1523.0529 | Mm-hm. | 1523.3124 |
1050 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1523.5292 | I wasn't at the station when he- he stopped in | 1525.8773 |
1052 | | 1527.8575 | one day, and he asked for me. | 1529.4712 |
1054 | | 1529.8590 | And my son, he told him I didn't come to work til four. | 1533.6834 |
1056 | | 1535.2697 | Til four o'clock. | 1536.2804 |
1058 | | 1537.2148 | So, he wanted my address. And my son he wouldn't give it to him, because he didn't know him and he just really didn't know just really | 1544.1414 |
1060 | | 1544.2513 | given my address to a stranger. And right then he says, well, if | 1546.8853 |
1062 | | 1547.5842 | any message or anything. He says, you can uh | 1550.4926 |
1064 | | 1550.6025 | come here to see him, you see. | 1552.1140 |
1066 | | 1553.7826 | So, then he told him w- | 1554.9521 |
1068 | | 1555.1995 | uh | 1555.7536 |
1070 | | 1556.7277 | what I did. | 1557.4544 |
1072 | | 1558.1964 | No I didn't either. I got /unintelligible/ I'm just a little ahead of it. | 1560.6346 |
1074 | | 1561.5171 | He told- after he told him, he could send me a message /there whatever/ it was. And so, he asked him the address of the p- station and everything and so | 1567.9276 |
1076 | | 1568.2086 | he give it to him. | 1568.9750 |
1078 | | 1570.1995 | And so, about uh | 1571.7277 |
1080 | | 1572.6437 | three or four days after that, when I went to work, and had seed- saw a letter. | 1575.8666 |
1081 | DTA_int_03 | 1576.5643 | Mm-hm. | 1576.8879 |
1082 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1579.1384 | And /the s-/ | 1579.6192 |
1084 | | 1579.7780 | he went on to | 1580.7643 |
1086 | | 1582.2880 | tell | 1582.7811 |
1088 | | 1583.1383 | uh | 1583.6605 |
1090 | | 1584.0544 | how he appreciated the, uh, | 1586.3979 |
1092 | | 1586.7979 | what I did | 1587.4697 |
1094 | | 1589.2177 | and he uh. | 1590.0208 |
1096 | | 1593.2620 | Well, | 1593.6727 |
1098 | | 1594.6711 | he sent a check for two dollars, place of a dollar, see. | 1598.1689 |
1100 | | 1599.8911 | And uh. He thanked me and, | 1601.7612 |
1102 | | 1603.4682 | S- told sh- course he in- in this letter, | 1606.0101 |
1104 | | 1606.5887 | uh I couldn't read it mys- | 1608.0666 |
1106 | | 1609.6986 | excuse me. | 1610.3531 |
1108 | | 1638.7384 | And so, | 1639.2361 |
1110 | | 1639.5201 | uh. | 1640.1230 |
1112 | | 1642.0071 | I read the letter, | 1642.9581 |
1114 | | 1643.0406 | well, I didn't read it. I gave it to my son. He read it. | 1645.8574 |
1116 | | 1646.4070 | And, um, | 1646.8803 |
1118 | | 1648.8146 | the- he uh. | 1649.8773 |
1120 | | 1651.1398 | The, uh, salesman, had comes from the company. | 1653.6895 |
1122 | | 1655.8070 | He happened to be at the s- station. | 1657.6558 |
1124 | | 1658.8803 | So, | 1659.3383 |
1126 | | 1660.9093 | he invited me to | 1662.2681 |
1128 | | 1662.8691 | frame it, see. | 1663.7189 |
1130 | | 1663.8848 | Well, that's so, | 1664.6177 |
1132 | | 1665.6864 | I got- | 1666.2055 |
1134 | | 1667.1078 | I got a frame | 1667.9045 |
1136 | | 1668.8758 | and. | 1669.1811 |
1138 | | 1671.6376 | So, | 1671.9796 |
1140 | | 1683.3536 | You know, those | 1684.2300 |
1142 | | 1685.0009 | that's where I get my living | 1686.1643 |
1144 | | 1687.2666 | is through | 1687.8177 |
1146 | | 1689.1460 | doing | 1689.7628 |
1148 | | 1690.4132 | things for people. | 1691.4253 |
1150 | | 1693.1628 | That's the s- | 1693.5475 |
1152 | | 1705.4407 | Maybe it'll pass /reckon when I get home/ | 1707.3752 |
1153 | DTA_int_03 | 1710.4330 | Do you belong to a church? | 1711.5367 |
1154 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1711.7841 | Oh, yeah. | 1712.2360 |
1155 | DTA_int_03 | 1712.6146 | What church? | 1713.1414 |
1156 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1714.4529 | Uh. | 1714.8451 |
1158 | | 1715.5597 | Saint Paul Methodist church. Out on, uh, | 1718.1239 |
1160 | | 1718.4772 | it's out on | 1719.2711 |
1162 | | 1719.5124 | Ohio, near Eight Mile | 1720.8909 |
1164 | | 1721.3368 | Road. | 1721.8273 |
1165 | DTA_int_03 | 1722.2956 | Mm-hm. | 1722.5918 |
1166 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1723.1139 | Oh yes ma'am. | 1724.7551 |
1168 | | 1725.4666 | Church. | 1726.1383 |
1170 | | 1727.8070 | Yeah. | 1728.3139 |
1172 | | 1728.6070 | I couldn't get along without | 1729.8848 |
1174 | | 1730.5108 | [church.] | 1731.0739 |
1175 | DTA_int_03 | 1730.7429 | [Uh-huh.] | 1730.9108 |
1176 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1731.5673 | Mm-mm. | 1731.9765 |
1178 | | 1732.2391 | I don't see- | 1732.9245 |
1180 | | 1733.2818 | I don't really see how | 1735.0284 |
1182 | | 1736.7337 | people, which, my children, my | 1738.7505 |
1184 | | 1740.4116 | now, mi- not all of them | 1741.8966 |
1186 | | 1742.1718 | this daughter that lives upstairs is about the only one | 1744.6405 |
1188 | | 1745.3459 | that do attend church pretty regularly. The rest of 'em goes oncet in a while. And I stay after them, I don't know how you can stay out of church even | 1753.0559 |
1190 | | 1754.4772 | if you're not a church member. If you're just a person that existing | 1758.3383 |
1192 | | 1759.5200 | once in a while, you oughta | 1760.8650 |
1194 | | 1762.5719 | look | 1762.9459 |
1196 | | 1763.1321 | to the almighty for | 1764.8055 |
1198 | | 1765.1872 | how good he's been to you, because | 1767.1215 |
1200 | | 1769.4680 | you know, when you | 1770.9093 |
1202 | | 1772.7825 | meet someone and say good morning, | 1774.8537 |
1204 | | 1775.3947 | and that person says, what's good about it? | 1777.1597 |
1205 | DTA_int_03 | 1777.5642 | Mm-hm. | 1777.8787 |
1206 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1779.5917 | Then, I look at 'em and say, | 1782.2847 |
1208 | | 1784.1963 | how many people would like to be in your | 1786.5170 |
1210 | | 1788.1276 | place, up walking around who can't get out of bed this morning? | 1791.6428 |
1212 | | 1793.0222 | I says, if you had swapped places with them, | 1795.2360 |
1214 | | 1795.6588 | then you would s- | 1796.4833 |
1216 | | 1796.9016 | see what was good about it. | 1798.3154 |
1218 | | 1798.9550 | I happened to be in a bank the other morning and uh, | 1801.0438 |
1220 | | 1801.9489 | I said, to a young lady, | 1803.2406 |
1222 | | 1803.4849 | I says, good morning. | 1804.4284 |
1224 | | 1805.6512 | She says, well, good morning, but I don't know what's good about it. | 1807.9581 |
1226 | | 1808.5505 | And the- I answered her with- with the same things that I just said. | 1811.9077 |
1228 | | 1813.5017 | And she says, you know what, | 1814.4833 |
1230 | | 1814.5932 | I had never thought about it like that. | 1816.4314 |
1231 | DTA_int_03 | 1817.3550 | [Uh-huh.] | 1817.6787 |
1232 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1817.4253 | [I says,] well, if we all would turn around and think /of/ and things and that every morning, when we get up, | 1822.2028 |
1233 | | 1823.4985 | we don't get up on our own, we think we do | 1826.1077 |
1235 | | 1826.6848 | but, uh | 1827.5236 |
1237 | | 1827.7780 | we don't get up on our own. | 1829.1504 |
1238 | DTA_int_03 | 1829.6085 | Mm-hm. | 1829.9771 |
1239 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1830.1734 | It's- we get up | 1831.3344 |
1241 | | 1832.6573 | because the good Lord wants us to get up. | 1834.6894 |
1242 | DTA_int_03 | 1834.9520 | Mm-hm. | 1835.3153 |
1243 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1835.4314 | Because he gives us the strength. | 1836.9624 |
1244 | DTA_int_03 | 1837.3185 | Mm-hm. | 1837.6015 |
1245 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1837.6015 | He gives us the mind, the willpower | 1839.9245 |
1246 | | 1840.8023 | to do | 1841.3733 |
1248 | | 1842.0390 | and to get out of bed. | 1843.0803 |
1250 | | 1843.9520 | But, if he says, no | 1845.2039 |
1252 | | 1845.3169 | you not gonna get up this morning, | 1847.6723 |
1254 | | 1847.8344 | you don't get up. | 1848.7632 |
1256 | | 1848.9856 | Because | 1849.7351 |
1258 | | 1850.7489 | he has all power to | 1852.9123 |
1260 | | 1853.7184 | say whether you- | 1854.6538 |
1262 | | 1854.8476 | me and uh, you sit here, or you move your fingers, or you keep 'em still. | 1858.4406 |
1264 | | 1860.9337 | I think that- that bi- our world would be in much better shape | 1863.9032 |
1266 | | 1864.1536 | if | 1864.8298 |
1268 | | 1866.9459 | our- even our ministers | 1868.7184 |
1270 | | 1869.7138 | and our churches would be a little more stricter | 1872.2466 |
1272 | | 1872.6741 | talking to the members and they do. | 1875.0940 |
1273 | DTA_int_03 | 1875.4390 | Yeah. | 1875.7383 |
1274 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1876.6618 | Because | 1877.4194 |
1276 | | 1877.6390 | they | 1878.2863 |
1278 | | 1879.1932 | give them a leeway of | 1880.8772 |
1280 | | 1881.7383 | well, | 1882.3368 |
1282 | | 1882.6710 | it's alright to do this. | 1884.8177 |
1284 | | 1886.0619 | Uh, it's a- | 1886.6023 |
1286 | | 1887.2008 | the Bible has | 1888.2370 |
1288 | | 1888.5139 | a way, just like the Lord | 1890.4237 |
1290 | | 1891.1566 | intended for us to do. And it's- the- it is | 1894.0039 |
1292 | | 1894.3795 | just like it was | 1895.7703 |
1294 | | 1896.8360 | today like it was | 1898.4771 |
1296 | | 1899.3321 | a thousand years ago. | 1901.1968 |
1297 | DTA_int_03 | 1901.6207 | People haven't changed. | 1902.7871 |
1298 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1902.9093 | I- no, the thing hasn't change- as far as uh | 1906.1783 |
1300 | | 1906.4839 | you- as we call ourself Christian and living for | 1910.0615 |
1302 | | 1911.2228 | our master | 1912.1110 |
1304 | | 1912.3769 | we can live the same today as we did | 1914.8941 |
1306 | | 1915.6122 | a thousand years ago. | 1917.1402 |
1307 | DTA_int_03 | 1917.4448 | Mm-hm. | 1917.7565 |
1308 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1917.7902 | He hasn't changed. | 1919.1318 |
1310 | | 1920.0516 | His way hasn't changed. | 1921.6061 |
1312 | | 1922.0554 | We- it- As he says, if you have the faith | 1924.8598 |
1314 | | 1925.7735 | to do. | 1926.4324 |
1316 | | 1928.2570 | I mean, real faith and belief | 1930.6275 |
1318 | | 1930.8048 | now, how strong is that faith? | 1933.3396 |
1320 | | 1935.0700 | Alright, Jesus | 1936.1416 |
1322 | | 1936.3494 | had the faith, he walked on the water. | 1938.4145 |
1324 | | 1938.9613 | Now, we got to have that faith. | 1940.5596 |
1326 | | 1943.0615 | You [would] | 1943.6941 |
1327 | DTA_int_03 | 1943.3125 | [Have you been] in an accident? | 1944.6693 |
1328 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1944.7382 | [Yes.] | 1945.3622 |
1329 | DTA_int_03 | 1945.2577 | [Serious accident?] | 1946.2057 |
1330 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1945.8506 | [Mm-hm.] | 1946.3310 |
1331 | | 1946.8835 | Never been hurt. | 1947.6323 |
1332 | DTA_int_03 | 1948.5878 | Really? | 1948.8506 |
1333 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1949.1990 | That's right. | 1949.8866 |
1335 | | 1950.5314 | I've had my- I had a m- | 1952.0156 |
1337 | | 1952.5840 | wasn't I just got /?/ in a car and was talking about this morning and I- | 1955.7154 |
1339 | | 1956.1066 | and I- I- and there is things that I give to | 1959.6781 |
1341 | | 1960.4686 | the direction of the good Lord. | 1961.7888 |
1343 | | 1963.2730 | And being s- you asked me, I'll tell you, I've suffered a little incidents, after I tell you | 1967.0767 |
1345 | | 1967.3457 | this accident has caused, uh, | 1969.2577 |
1347 | | 1969.4411 | was ju- on my side. | 1970.9823 |
1349 | | 1971.8482 | Was just | 1972.4624 |
1351 | | 1972.6203 | the driver side. But- uh, ju- was just completely demolished. | 1976.5901 |
1353 | | 1979.7246 | But, uh, I didn't get one scratch. | 1981.6244 |
1355 | | 1983.5192 | [But.] | 1983.7657 |
1356 | DTA_int_03 | 1983.5670 | [Did you] think you were gonna be killed? | 1985.1573 |
1357 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 1985.7124 | No. | 1986.2869 |
1359 | | 1987.1844 | I never have that- I never have that thought on leaving and going no place, and I go quite a bit. | 1991.5787 |
1361 | | 1991.9446 | And my family /stay often/, but I's tell him this, that's what was I just finna say | 1995.1830 |
1363 | | 1995.9979 | I accept the Lord, might I say, uh, /leaving/. I says now, | 1999.7283 |
1365 | | 1999.8506 | um, | 2000.5993 |
1367 | | 2001.7056 | father, you | 2002.6397 |
1369 | | 2003.0462 | open the way. | 2003.7485 |
1371 | | 2007.9551 | You | 2008.6519 |
1373 | | 2009.0431 | guide me through all the stumbling blocks. | 2011.3433 |
1375 | | 2011.7956 | And that's the way I go | 2012.9568 |
1376 | DTA_int_03 | 2013.5792 | And if he [wants /inaudible/] | 2015.0089 |
1377 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2014.0684 | [And I feel-] I feel as I'm taken care of. | 2016.9337 |
1378 | | 2017.7650 | I have my dad and my mother | 2019.8910 |
1380 | | 2020.8231 | which, they are passed. | 2022.4030 |
1382 | | 2022.7137 | And they- | 2023.0774 |
1384 | | 2023.4074 | and- but I have my. | 2024.6329 |
1386 | | 2025.2135 | And my dad, my mother, | 2026.2516 |
1388 | | 2026.6580 | wife, | 2027.2027 |
1390 | | 2027.3976 | in this | 2028.2686 |
1392 | | 2028.7168 | n- | 2028.8604 |
1394 | | 2029.2149 | daughter here was a baby. | 2030.7674 |
1395 | DTA_int_03 | 2030.9049 | Mm-hm. | 2031.2135 |
1396 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2032.3188 | And we was coming | 2033.8193 |
1398 | | 2034.0577 | from down in Tennessee back to Indiana. | 2036.8315 |
1400 | | 2037.3541 | That's where I lived at that time. | 2038.4380 |
1402 | | 2038.8964 | <ts> I was driving and | 2040.1708 |
1404 | | 2040.4886 | these roads, uh, | 2041.9147 |
1406 | | 2042.2937 | you don't see many of 'em now, but it's up and down | 2044.8139 |
1408 | | 2045.2081 | and only the | 2045.7429 |
1410 | | 2046.3113 | two | 2046.9215 |
1412 | | 2047.9361 | uh | 2048.5809 |
1414 | | 2049.2196 | wasn't hardly two | 2050.2445 |
1416 | | 2050.3235 | car wides length. You'd have to | 2051.9813 |
1418 | | 2052.2410 | get off of the roads and | 2053.5786 |
1420 | | 2053.7711 | let the cars go by, | 2055.1495 |
1422 | | 2055.2441 | see. | 2055.4916 |
1424 | | 2056.3463 | Well, I was going up a hill. | 2057.5809 |
1426 | | 2057.9446 | And you couldn't see no further than the top of the hill, but there's a space over here for | 2061.5945 |
1428 | | 2062.2791 | me to- where- where I could pull off, | 2063.9721 |
1430 | | 2064.3480 | you know. | 2064.6801 |
1432 | | 2066.1195 | And I just pulled over and stopped. | 2068.3707 |
1434 | | 2068.6456 | And | 2069.0094 |
1436 | | 2069.2692 | My dad says to me, whatchu stopping for? And | 2071.9667 |
1438 | | 2072.1317 | just about the time I got ready to tell him, | 2073.9032 |
1440 | | 2074.7100 | here come a truck and a car. | 2076.4488 |
1442 | | 2077.2607 | And this car was passing the truck. | 2079.0699 |
1443 | DTA_int_03 | 2079.7229 | Mm-hm. | 2080.1262 |
1444 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2082.8247 | And I f- if I hadn't've stopped, | 2084.8437 |
1446 | | 2085.4488 | we'd've met that car head on. | 2086.8689 |
1447 | DTA_int_03 | 2089.5663 | My grandfather was killed in an accident like that. | 2092.1446 |
1448 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2092.6580 | Well, | 2093.0125 |
1450 | | 2093.4801 | what do you think stopped me? | 2095.0560 |
1452 | | 2096.3823 | What stopped me? | 2097.0803 |
1454 | | 2097.6536 | What caused me to do it? | 2098.6702 |
1456 | | 2101.5052 | That's why I got- | 2102.0644 |
1458 | | 2103.7055 | /?/ | 2103.9093 |
1460 | | 2104.9177 | Because uh, | 2105.8193 |
1462 | | 2106.5130 | That, as I say, that's my | 2108.5595 |
1464 | | 2108.9293 | when I leave, | 2109.9031 |
1466 | | 2111.1958 | take care of 'em, and guide me, | 2112.5175 |
1468 | | 2112.5893 | sh- so he | 2113.5724 |
1470 | | 2114.4556 | pulled me over and stopped me. | 2115.5436 |
1471 | DTA_int_03 | 2116.1717 | Mm-hm. | 2116.4721 |
1472 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2119.9697 | So, uh, those, uh, those kind of things, as I say, that's one of the incidents that I feel that I was taken care of. It's | 2127.5252 |
1474 | | 2127.8940 | well, uh, | 2128.3615 |
1476 | | 2129.1836 | kept me from being hurt, uh, the- | 2130.7809 |
1478 | | 2131.1965 | and that was the whole family. | 2132.4648 |
1480 | | 2134.5602 | I had another incident when my | 2136.5710 |
1482 | | 2137.5999 | uh, mother passed. | 2139.0729 |
1484 | | 2141.3639 | Uh. | 2141.8559 |
1486 | | 2142.9795 | We hadn't- | 2143.7344 |
1488 | | 2144.1775 | My wife- uh taking care of my mother, thought as much my mother was her mother. | 2148.1890 |
1490 | | 2149.7099 | And uh, my mother was- | 2151.4152 |
1492 | | 2151.8603 | we had- | 2152.2179 |
1494 | | 2152.3737 | had her staying with us. She was sick at the time and | 2155.0559 |
1496 | | 2155.6060 | we'd gone and got her. She had never been here. We brought her here, she hadn't ever been here, but she wanted to come here to see our home. | 2160.9074 |
1498 | | 2162.1286 | And I went and got her, she was sick and I brought her here, and | 2164.7038 |
1500 | | 2164.8474 | uh, | 2165.2844 |
1502 | | 2165.6206 | we brought her here, and she stayed and of course, she got up, was much better while she was here. | 2169.2165 |
1504 | | 2170.8627 | /And but I-/ she had stayed her time out, she might say she wanted, say she wanted to go home and uh. | 2176.1415 |
1506 | | 2177.8223 | We /taken/ her home. | 2178.7925 |
1508 | | 2179.1262 | Well, I taken her home and about two- | 2181.3265 |
1510 | | 2182.5510 | Was it two month or one month? | 2183.9415 |
1512 | | 2184.8613 | About a month after I had taken her home, she went into a coma. | 2187.6768 |
1514 | | 2189.5136 | Then, uh, | 2190.0362 |
1516 | | 2191.5785 | they | 2192.1347 |
1518 | | 2192.4861 | uh, | 2193.0148 |
1520 | | 2193.7350 | my brother | 2194.3798 |
1522 | | 2194.6152 | called me and told me what had happened and | 2196.7147 |
1524 | | 2198.0124 | I talked to the white and the | 2199.3669 |
1526 | | 2199.7093 | wife said well, | 2200.6243 |
1528 | | 2200.8291 | said she's in a coma, said she wouldn't know nothing about us going. | 2203.8994 |
1530 | | 2205.7605 | Uh. | 2206.1598 |
1532 | | 2206.2698 | Coming? I says, no. | 2207.5778 |
1534 | | 2207.8284 | So, | 2208.2501 |
1536 | | 2208.3754 | I just, then I told my brother that uh, | 2210.7275 |
1538 | | 2211.8002 | we wouldn't come. Uh, | 2213.3226 |
1540 | | 2213.5258 | say if sh- anything happened, if she passed, well, just let us know. Course, she passed and | 2217.9459 |
1542 | | 2219.3914 | they | 2219.9659 |
1544 | | 2220.1584 | called me and told me she'd passed and | 2222.0155 |
1546 | | 2223.0820 | then uh, | 2223.7167 |
1548 | | 2224.4226 | I pictured in my mind they hadn't set when the funeral was gonna be | 2227.6977 |
1550 | | 2228.3761 | and actually working and I had to pick time to get off from the job. And not be off too long. They was kind of hard on you s- being off. | 2236.5632 |
1552 | | 2236.8443 | didn't make any difference what. | 2238.3082 |
1553 | DTA_int_03 | 2238.7686 | Mm-hm. | 2239.0620 |
1554 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2239.4593 | And uh, | 2240.2313 |
1556 | | 2241.2043 | if you went to a funeral, you had to | 2243.2569 |
1558 | | 2243.6083 | bring some kind of proof back or something if /?/ you'd gone to the funeral. That's what it was at that time | 2248.1017 |
1560 | | 2248.8199 | in the factory. | 2249.5228 |
1562 | | 2250.2532 | So, uh, | 2250.9642 |
1564 | | 2251.3676 | I told my brother, well uh, | 2253.1645 |
1566 | | 2255.2813 | when- when you get the arrangements made, let me know when they | 2258.7367 |
1568 | | 2259.1981 | w- we gonna bury her. | 2260.4501 |
1570 | | 2261.1652 | And I pictured in my mind, then what | 2263.4012 |
1572 | | 2264.0796 | n- before I said anything, what day they was gonna bury her, when I come home from work, | 2267.5167 |
1574 | | 2269.5020 | the wife says to me, she- they'll bury my mother tomorrow, see. | 2272.7618 |
1576 | | 2273.3394 | And I had they was gonna bury her the next day. That's what I'd pictured it in my mind. | 2277.0484 |
1578 | | 2278.0742 | After they was gonna bury her to- | 2280.0117 |
1580 | | 2280.7625 | back tomorrow, when I come in the- | 2282.4402 |
1582 | | 2282.6358 | that time, I was working days. Come in at four o'clock in the afternoon. | 2285.4341 |
1584 | | 2286.4640 | And she told me, well, | 2287.7587 |
1586 | | 2287.9574 | from here to Indianapolis, Indiana is almost three hundred miles. I says, well, we get ready | 2292.5587 |
1588 | | 2293.8993 | go. | 2294.2722 |
1590 | | 2295.6443 | So, it was the end of February. So, we got ready, and started and about- when I got out here, Coldwater | 2300.6022 |
1592 | | 2301.4121 | you could just see fog. | 2302.6360 |
1594 | | 2303.2263 | Just like a wall. | 2304.4701 |
1596 | | 2304.7513 | That's- just fact, just rolling, | 2306.4372 |
1598 | | 2306.8864 | coming, we had never got into it, we just. | 2308.7893 |
1600 | | 2310.1615 | So, I said to the wife, I says, know what, boy, says, the way that fog looks, say this gonna get bad. | 2314.4623 |
1602 | | 2315.5303 | And sure enough, when we got into it, you. | 2318.1377 |
1604 | | 2320.3370 | Well, I k- | 2321.5533 |
1606 | | 2321.9078 | you- uh, I couldn't see fence posts just looking off of the highway | 2325.9428 |
1608 | | 2326.2881 | to the side. | 2326.9635 |
1610 | | 2328.2348 | But down the highway, my lights is surely | 2330.9689 |
1612 | | 2331.9703 | just as bright as any night. | 2333.8161 |
1614 | | 2335.4867 | Uh. I had ever drove. | 2336.6664 |
1616 | | 2338.9972 | /Well/ | 2339.4188 |
1618 | | 2340.8694 | I drove along and | 2342.0368 |
1620 | | 2342.2966 | and hadn't said nothing to the wife about it. And I noticed people I were passing, they was just creeping. Well, I was driving about | 2348.2966 |
1622 | | 2348.6022 | forty-five, fifty | 2349.7716 |
1624 | | 2350.2881 | that time and uh, | 2351.8069 |
1626 | | 2352.1339 | fifty-five, that was | 2353.3327 |
1628 | | 2353.5570 | good speed. | 2354.3546 |
1630 | | 2354.9017 | And I could see just as far down to- the | 2356.6548 |
1632 | | 2356.8565 | road as ever, I saw with my light. | 2358.7533 |
1634 | | 2362.1597 | So, finally, I said the wife, I says, say, I says, can you see | 2365.5815 |
1636 | | 2367.8001 | uh, the fence posts and telephone posts? She says no. I says, but I can | 2371.6059 |
1638 | | 2373.1034 | uh, | 2373.8032 |
1640 | | 2374.4867 | see down the highway. | 2375.7489 |
1642 | | 2376.2042 | And she said, but these people we passing, they must can't see, uh, it must be foggy. | 2380.4925 |
1644 | | 2382.5282 | So, I drove on to Indianapolis. | 2385.0636 |
1646 | | 2386.1475 | And I got into Indianapolis, and the streetlights /you been in-/ to look like a match. | 2390.2196 |
1648 | | 2391.2776 | And. | 2391.6718 |
1650 | | 2393.9933 | So. | 2394.2225 |
1652 | | 2394.7380 | Um. My- my brother | 2396.1743 |
1654 | | 2396.8253 | they know | 2397.5068 |
1656 | | 2398.5509 | how far it was, you know, where I came from. | 2400.3686 |
1658 | | 2400.8480 | So he's a- | 2401.5937 |
1660 | | 2401.8198 | I got there | 2402.5808 |
1662 | | 2403.4273 | to Indiana | 2404.0619 |
1664 | | 2404.9665 | h- and he says uh, | 2405.9750 |
1666 | | 2408.1957 | what time did you start? | 2409.4854 |
1668 | | 2411.5074 | Uh. I says (laughing). [<laugh>] | 2412.5607 |
1669 | DTA_int_03 | 2412.1522 | [And you] told him | 2413.2667 |
1670 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2413.3859 | [<laugh>] | 2413.9298 |
1671 | DTA_int_03 | 2413.3859 | [<laugh>] | 2414.3882 |
1672 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2415.0361 | [Uh.] | 2415.3478 |
1673 | DTA_int_03 | 2415.0728 | [And he said.] | 2415.8938 |
1674 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2415.9641 | Yeah. I says uh. | 2417.1774 |
1676 | | 2417.7672 | Well, I says, I worked. | 2418.9519 |
1678 | | 2420.0551 | You worked? | 2420.7183 |
1680 | | 2421.1431 | You could le- I said yup. | 2422.3064 |
1682 | | 2424.7451 | Wasn't awfully foggy? I says, well I says, uh, | 2427.7129 |
1684 | | 2428.7954 | I guess it was, I says, but | 2430.2317 |
1686 | | 2431.2025 | I says, I could see. | 2432.6408 |
1688 | | 2434.1780 | I says, uh. | 2435.1346 |
1690 | | 2436.2561 | Course, I said the street lights out there look like matches, I said, but I could see down the road. | 2440.3797 |
1691 | DTA_int_03 | 2442.9580 | That's true. | 2443.6028 |
1692 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2445.2134 | To- | 2445.6229 |
1694 | | 2446.8809 | they | 2447.2996 |
1696 | | 2448.3998 | wondered, I says, well I says I guess it's | 2451.0077 |
1698 | | 2452.9654 | one of those things. | 2454.1920 |
1699 | DTA_int_03 | 2456.2996 | If someone /looks out for you/ | 2457.7117 |
1701 | | 2458.8565 | /inaudible/ | 2459.5618 |
1702 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2463.1736 | So, I. | 2463.7777 |
1704 | | 2465.4952 | Mm. | 2465.6419 |
1706 | | 2465.8527 | Go on living. | 2466.9855 |
1707 | DTA_int_03 | 2467.5234 | Mm-hm. | 2467.9413 |
1708 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2469.0300 | No wonder- | 2469.6768 |
1710 | | 2471.2079 | There's somebody. | 2472.1828 |
1711 | DTA_int_03 | 2477.4768 | /inaudible/ | 2479.5356 |
1713 | | 2483.8069 | Do you pray | 2484.4364 |
1715 | | 2484.7899 | i- | 2484.9121 |
1717 | | 2485.1383 | do you ever pray | 2486.0093 |
1719 | | 2486.2354 | for things? | 2487.1747 |
1720 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2487.4853 | Yes. | 2488.2330 |
1721 | DTA_int_03 | 2488.8534 | You know. | 2489.2507 |
1722 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2489.9505 | I pray | 2490.7410 |
1724 | | 2491.5020 | uh. | 2492.0123 |
1726 | | 2494.2819 | And I feel my prayers answered. The ones that- You see, and that's another thing that people, | 2499.8541 |
1728 | | 2500.6211 | in praying | 2501.3821 |
1730 | | 2502.8510 | prayer | 2503.3094 |
1732 | | 2506.0680 | they pray, but uh, you pray, you /ge- I-/ you pray for things and then you turn around and wonder, is I gonna get it? | 2511.5373 |
1733 | DTA_int_03 | 2512.0160 | Mm-hm. | 2512.3614 |
1734 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2513.4537 | Or wonder, is it gonna happen? | 2515.5294 |
1735 | DTA_int_03 | 2515.9940 | Mm-hm. | 2516.2873 |
1736 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2518.3308 | Then, you're not praying. | 2519.6052 |
1737 | DTA_int_03 | 2521.1413 | Yeah. | 2521.4347 |
1739 | | 2521.7800 | Yeah, you- | 2522.2648 |
1741 | | 2522.5563 | you /inaudible/. | 2523.0366 |
1742 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2522.6535 | [You're ask that- you're] asking. | 2524.6840 |
1743 | DTA_int_03 | 2523.3980 | /inaudible/. | 2523.6289 |
1744 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2526.3967 | Yeah. | 2526.6982 |
1746 | | 2527.4561 | If you pray for something, you forget it. | 2529.4293 |
1748 | | 2529.5729 | Because you know | 2530.7678 |
1750 | | 2531.0856 | if you feel that you- | 2532.5281 |
1752 | | 2533.6150 | uh, | 2534.1682 |
1754 | | 2534.6174 | we say a child of God and a Christian person | 2537.1743 |
1756 | | 2538.6748 | one of His children, and you pray, then you | 2541.1492 |
1758 | | 2541.8367 | a- asked Him for something, you forget it. | 2544.0483 |
1759 | DTA_int_03 | 2545.7637 | [/inaudible/] | 2547.5532 |
1760 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2546.0123 | You don't [start and wond-] | 2547.2225 |
1762 | | 2547.4415 | [That's] right. | 2548.1230 |
1763 | | 2549.3485 | He- he's never late. Um,, you may have- well the other way I saw it, | 2552.8894 |
1765 | | 2553.5087 | sh- | 2553.6951 |
1767 | | 2554.0649 | they quote it, but I can't quote it just like it- I says, he's never late, he's always on time. | 2558.0031 |
1769 | | 2560.3583 | We- you see, but we think, well I didn't get this- | 2563.2574 |
1771 | | 2564.3973 | I says, I sa- I'm praying and wondering if I'm gonna get it. Now, | 2567.5593 |
1773 | | 2568.2622 | now I prayed and | 2569.4408 |
1775 | | 2569.6089 | I didn't get it. | 2570.4829 |
1777 | | 2571.1277 | See. | 2571.3844 |
1778 | DTA_int_03 | 2571.7074 | Yeah. | 2571.9221 |
1779 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2573.4035 | I pray today and I ask for something, uh tonight when I uh go to bed, and I ask for something and I | 2580.0727 |
1781 | | 2581.2513 | then I get up s- and go, well now, I- I know it's gonna happen and I don't- uh, | 2585.7763 |
1783 | | 2585.9871 | When? | 2586.5495 |
1785 | | 2586.9182 | I don't know. | 2587.4714 |
1787 | | 2589.2316 | But in time. | 2590.0343 |
1788 | DTA_int_03 | 2590.8961 | Are there anythings you can | 2592.2927 |
1790 | | 2592.5698 | I mean, | 2592.8688 |
1792 | | 2593.3980 | funny little things you can do | 2594.8038 |
1794 | | 2595.4364 | that you don't really believe in | 2596.7678 |
1796 | | 2597.3912 | to get a wish? | 2598.1691 |
1798 | | 2599.0527 | You know, if it's something you'r e not serious. | 2600.6265 |
1799 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2600.7641 | Something not serious, /in/ [uh.] | 2602.6058 |
1800 | DTA_int_03 | 2602.3430 | [A] chicken bone or [something.] | 2603.9596 |
1801 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2603.8221 | [N- uh.] | 2605.0985 |
1802 | DTA_int_03 | 2604.5423 | [Did you ever] | 2605.0618 |
1803 | | 2605.7800 | do that? | 2606.2633 |
1804 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2606.3222 | Well, uh, | 2607.6350 |
1806 | | 2607.7664 | Yeah, I | 2608.5905 |
1808 | | 2608.9481 | have | 2609.3393 |
1810 | | 2609.6846 | in other words, you mean do little things yourself [that d- d-] | 2612.3912 |
1811 | DTA_int_03 | 2611.6700 | [Yeah. That's right] to have a wish. When it's- when it's [not important enough to bother] the [deity.] | 2616.0436 |
1812 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2613.7257 | [Mm.] | 2613.8693 |
1814 | | 2614.2116 | [/?/] | 2614.6394 |
1816 | | 2614.8136 | [N-] | 2615.0245 |
1818 | | 2615.6815 | [And] oh. Uh. Well, now. | 2617.8350 |
1819 | | 2618.1162 | Those things, yeah. I used to. Well, we used to take a chicken bone and we'd break it and make a wish and see [if it comes] true. Yeah, I did that. | 2624.2415 |
1820 | DTA_int_03 | 2622.6309 | [Uh-huh] | 2622.8571 |
1822 | | 2623.9603 | [Yeah.] | 2624.2375 |
1823 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2625.1674 | I did that and I don't know if I ever know of one that I made a wish come true, really. [<laugh> Now (laughing)] I don't. | 2631.7040 |
1824 | DTA_int_03 | 2629.4038 | [<laugh>] | 2630.8734 |
1826 | | 2631.6854 | [<laugh>] | 2632.1413 |
1827 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2631.7722 | [Being f-] truthfully I don't know if I've ever m- made one and know that it come true. But I had did that quite often. Oh. I- | 2638.2207 |
1828 | | 2638.5905 | I get the- | 2639.3392 |
1830 | | 2640.2347 | wishbone, we call it, of the [chicken and] every- They break it and make a wish. And [I know] I have a. | 2645.7426 |
1831 | DTA_int_03 | 2641.5049 | [Yeah.] | 2641.7966 |
1833 | | 2644.7219 | [<laugh>] | 2645.1803 |
1834 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2646.2530 | And so, s- I have several of those little things that- those little | 2649.8795 |
1836 | | 2650.1015 | [funny things /unintelligible/.] | 2651.2659 |
1837 | DTA_int_03 | 2650.1037 | [Oh yeah?] | 2650.4977 |
1839 | | 2650.8840 | [Can you tell me about 'em?] | 2651.7507 |
1840 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2651.6021 | [Mm.] | 2651.7396 |
1841 | | 2652.5983 | Well, I say, but I don't know if never- [I did 'em and.] | 2655.4089 |
1842 | DTA_int_03 | 2654.8374 | [You don't believe] in them. But what are the ones you don't believe in? I know the one you do believe [in.] | 2658.9190 |
1843 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2658.7532 | [Well. That's actually a very-] | 2660.5959 |
1844 | DTA_int_03 | 2659.3858 | [<laugh>] | 2660.5073 |
1845 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2660.9963 | Well, well, when I was small, | 2662.8258 |
1847 | | 2663.6357 | I had- I believed in this little thing we talked about. But af- but after I grew up, I didn't believe in it. I found it just nothing to it, and we didn't. | 2670.4363 |
1849 | | 2671.1321 | Uh. It wasn't anything. Just something p- uh | 2674.2024 |
1851 | | 2674.3216 | pass time, uh, | 2675.4129 |
1853 | | 2675.8007 | something, but it wasn't anything [to it.] | 2677.2116 |
1854 | DTA_int_03 | 2677.1260 | [Things] that if they were there, you felt like you had to make a wish. | 2679.8183 |
1855 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2679.8234 | As if [i-] | 2680.5661 |
1856 | DTA_int_03 | 2680.3735 | [You know with] | 2680.8380 |
1857 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2680.8350 | N- uh. [I-] You go- make a- take a wishbone an- to get it, see. And | 2684.9657 |
1858 | DTA_int_03 | 2681.4129 | [a wishing well.] | 2681.7685 |
1859 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2685.1338 | I- b- but I found out- we- that di- no, no, any of [that's not true.] [I-] | 2688.2010 |
1860 | DTA_int_03 | 2687.0795 | [Mm-hm.] | 2687.6601 |
1862 | | 2687.9474 | [<laugh>] | 2688.3844 |
1863 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2688.7206 | And when you- you wo- and things that you're making a wish for with that wishbone, | 2692.4560 |
1865 | | 2692.9205 | /if it one/ way to get it. Now, if it's something that's to be purchased, uh, uh. Something like I did, you try to make a way to get it and then purchase it after, [<laugh>] | 2700.3279 |
1866 | DTA_int_03 | 2699.9474 | [Yeah.] | 2700.2102 |
1867 | | 2700.5127 | [Yeah.] | 2700.7406 |
1868 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2700.6975 | [that's] the only way that's coming true, see. | 2702.7334 |
1869 | DTA_int_03 | 2702.7334 | Yeah. | 2702.9535 |
1870 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2703.6350 | So, wait a mo- | 2704.6883 |
1872 | | 2705.5593 | but you get out here and | 2707.1626 |
1874 | | 2707.7463 | <ts> I was gonna say to you, I had a little | 2709.8509 |
1876 | | 2710.7922 | something that happened, that was here. | 2712.4529 |
1878 | | 2712.5462 | And that- this was another incident | 2714.1956 |
1880 | | 2716.0251 | that uh | 2716.9419 |
1882 | | 2717.0886 | you might say that i- | 2718.3722 |
1884 | | 2719.0893 | you know, my | 2719.7555 |
1886 | | 2720.4706 | uh, | 2721.0360 |
1888 | | 2721.5861 | heavenly father | 2722.4774 |
1890 | | 2723.0581 | provided for me. And this looks like a | 2725.3674 |
1892 | | 2725.5141 | you might see, one of those things that you speaking of now. | 2727.9457 |
1894 | | 2729.3086 | Because it was a- | 2730.5555 |
1896 | | 2730.7358 | I got a court summon. | 2731.7677 |
1897 | DTA_int_03 | 2732.1589 | Mm-hm. | 2732.4401 |
1898 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2732.9504 | And that was through this way, | 2734.2604 |
1900 | | 2734.4255 | man sold my home. | 2735.5929 |
1902 | | 2737.2054 | At that time and | 2738.2170 |
1903 | DTA_int_03 | 2738.6142 | Mm-hm. | 2738.9379 |
1904 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2739.3538 | I told him, don't sell my home now | 2741.4920 |
1906 | | 2741.8465 | unless you can get the money, | 2743.6516 |
1908 | | 2744.2384 | enough money to make the down payment on the home in which you want to sell us. He had a home that he wanted to sell us, see. | 2749.9223 |
1910 | | 2752.1565 | And uh, I- | 2753.5531 |
1912 | | 2754.0115 | I says because I know I won't have any cash money | 2756.7670 |
1914 | | 2756.9046 | pay it. So, | 2757.4883 |
1916 | | 2758.2421 | I left it up to him and so he come and, | 2760.3905 |
1918 | | 2761.8655 | well, I had sold the home. | 2763.1368 |
1920 | | 2763.9609 | He'd brought some people out and showed it to 'em | 2765.9321 |
1922 | | 2767.1443 | in here. So after he'd been /made a deal-/ Well, you'll sold the home? And I says, well, okay fine. | 2772.2377 |
1924 | | 2773.5385 | So, he says, uh, they'll be out and, uh, | 2775.9487 |
1926 | | 2776.6210 | you come over and- | 2777.7915 |
1928 | | 2777.9901 | to the- | 2778.3996 |
1930 | | 2778.6227 | meet him at the | 2779.5782 |
1932 | | 2780.6142 | real estate office, and meet at such and such a time and we'll | 2783.2689 |
1934 | | 2784.2010 | uh | 2784.7969 |
1936 | | 2784.9304 | just make out the- both contracts all the same time. | 2787.5005 |
1937 | DTA_int_03 | 2787.5025 | Mm-hm. | 2787.7840 |
1938 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2788.2482 | Alright. | 2788.8105 |
1940 | | 2789.0427 | So, we going over and | 2790.4638 |
1942 | | 2791.5293 | we may fill out that they'd sold our home, where we sold to them if they let out first and | 2795.9809 |
1944 | | 2797.9663 | only like five hundred dollars have nothing make the down payment on the home that we buying. I says, hey, I told him, I said I told you not to sa- sell it. Then walked away | 2805.6899 |
1946 | | 2806.5568 | cause we | 2807.1191 |
1948 | | 2807.4859 | you haven't been got enough money /hear me/. | 2808.9059 |
1950 | | 2809.1901 | He said, don't worry about that says, we can take care of that. Y- You just let us know, well. | 2813.6601 |
1952 | | 2814.4974 | I thought then to | 2815.9205 |
1954 | | 2817.2560 | back out of the deal. And see, I said to the wife, what do you think? She says, well, I don't know. | 2822.0916 |
1956 | | 2823.7358 | He says don't worry about the- enough fi- money was his- we- you- we'll take care of that. Alright. We can fix that. Alright. Well, I let the deal go through. | 2830.7524 |
1958 | | 2832.1429 | And, uh, | 2832.8448 |
1960 | | 2833.8838 | so, then to- for me to make the deal, had to make a side note | 2836.5843 |
1962 | | 2837.5653 | for five hundred dollars, I make my house loan and then pay on this five hundred dollars too. | 2841.9181 |
1964 | | 2843.7609 | And uh, | 2844.8366 |
1966 | | 2845.2909 | I went on and made if for a while, but my work, I was working in the factory and at that time, the factory was working | 2850.5402 |
1968 | | 2850.7021 | not the same as they do now. [And] | 2852.5959 |
1969 | DTA_int_03 | 2852.3892 | [Mm-hm.] | 2852.6692 |
1970 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2853.2162 | he was off three months and things, and I got behind on this statement, I told him | 2857.6919 |
1972 | | 2859.5927 | that uh, what had happened. And I couldn't pay on thi- making | 2862.6844 |
1974 | | 2862.8097 | my | 2863.2060 |
1976 | | 2863.5758 | house payment, but this side load, I [couldn't] pay it, so. | 2866.3496 |
1977 | DTA_int_03 | 2865.3961 | [Yeah.] | 2865.6039 |
1978 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2866.7683 | Then they | 2867.2664 |
1980 | | 2867.3826 | turned it over and said, /???/ asked what I /was in the/ | 2869.5116 |
1982 | | 2869.8569 | court | 2870.2420 |
1984 | | 2870.6118 | all at court about it, see. | 2871.9004 |
1986 | | 2872.8600 | Uh. | 2873.2848 |
1988 | | 2873.6790 | In this uh, recorder's court. | 2875.3282 |
1990 | | 2878.1418 | So, | 2878.6063 |
1992 | | 2879.7737 | I went down to court. | 2881.1846 |
1993 | DTA_int_03 | 2881.7469 | Mm-hm. | 2881.9973 |
1994 | DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 | 2881.9822 | And my brother-in-law went with me to court | 2883.9163 |
1995 | | 2884.0599 | Well, as I | 2884.8330 |
1997 | | 2885.2662 | said to you before, I | 2886.6422 |
1999 | | 2887.3695 | always asked the good Lord to go in front with me and my- | 2890.8646 |
2001 | | 2891.3199 | uh, whatever I've got to do. | 2893.4871 |