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1 | DTA_int_09 | 0.6531 | Uh, | 0.8882 |
3 | | 0.9898 | what kinds of games did you play when you were younger? | 3.2484 |
4 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 5.2234 | Oh, things like | 6.1051 |
6 | | 7.0204 | tag and, uh, | 8.0887 |
8 | | 8.2785 | baseball, | 9.0592 |
10 | | 9.2857 | [football.] | 9.9469 |
11 | DTA_int_09 | 9.2857 | [Uh-huh.] | 9.5890 |
12 | | 10.7183 | How did you- how did you play tag, for example? Could you explain that to me? | 14.0186 |
13 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 16.4642 | Well we | 17.1754 |
15 | | 17.4744 | chose a spot, say a tree, | 19.3571 |
16 | DTA_int_09 | 19.7091 | [Mm-hm.] | 20.0560 |
17 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 19.8438 | [and] | 20.3887 |
18 | | 21.5367 | we would, uh, | 22.3724 |
20 | | 22.5683 | form some sort of a | 23.9276 |
22 | | 24.6592 | circle, | 25.3384 |
24 | | 25.6112 | and choose who was supposed to be it. | 27.4572 |
26 | | 27.5735 | And then [the rest] would go hide and | 29.3091 |
27 | DTA_int_09 | 27.8777 | [Mm-hm.] | 28.2173 |
28 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 30.7296 | the person that was it would stand at the tree, | 33.0850 |
30 | | 33.4969 | count to ten, and then | 34.7367 |
32 | | 35.5631 | go looking for the rest of 'em. | 36.8910 |
33 | DTA_int_09 | 37.3081 | Uh-huh. | 37.7029 |
35 | | 37.8009 | Uh, are there any rhymes that you used or anything to find out who was going to be it? | 41.5907 |
37 | | 43.0847 | Like, I know we used to use one potato, two potato. | 45.5111 |
38 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 48.2092 | I can't remember any of 'em, to [tell you the truth.] | 50.2714 |
39 | DTA_int_09 | 49.6999 | [Uh-huh.] | 50.0550 |
40 | | 50.8664 | Uh, how about baseball. Where'd you play baseball? | 53.4206 |
41 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 55.2224 | We used to pay- play baseball at, uh, Brady Field or | 58.5254 |
43 | | 59.0887 | Northwestern Field. | 60.4051 |
45 | | 60.6653 | Or Atkinson's Field. | 61.9496 |
46 | DTA_int_09 | 62.0764 | Uh-huh. | 62.4842 |
48 | | 63.0011 | What position did you play? | 64.3448 |
49 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 65.2356 | Usually second base. | 66.4204 |
50 | DTA_int_09 | 66.4694 | Uh-huh. Did you play on any team or anything? | 68.4590 |
51 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 69.0623 | <ts> I played for the Falcons and the Flaming Arrows. | 72.1755 |
52 | DTA_int_09 | 72.4112 | Uh-huh. | 72.7407 |
54 | | 72.9347 | Could you tell me about the- the most interesting game you ever played in? | 75.8306 |
55 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 77.5019 | Well actually they were all pretty interesting. Uh, | 80.0121 |
57 | | 81.2184 | I guess the fun of playing made everything interesting then. | 84.2857 |
58 | DTA_int_09 | 84.7877 | [Uh-huh.] | 85.0928 |
59 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 84.8704 | [There-] there isn't any particular game that | 87.0879 |
60 | | 87.6530 | stands out in my mind, except | 89.5447 |
62 | | 90.0684 | for perhaps the game we played about my best friend's team | 93.5520 |
63 | DTA_int_09 | 93.6622 | [Mm-hm.] | 93.9775 |
64 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 93.7755 | [that we] won. | 94.5316 |
65 | | 95.6582 | Uh, but outside of that. | 96.9338 |
66 | DTA_int_09 | 98.5266 | Mm-hm. | 98.9286 |
68 | | 99.4112 | Okay, good. Uh, | 100.3292 |
70 | | 100.4612 | how about, uh any other games when- | 102.3041 |
72 | | 102.4507 | you played when you were, uh, | 103.6877 |
74 | | 104.3580 | younger, such as, uh, | 105.7755 |
76 | | 106.3234 | the little girls might play now? | 107.9851 |
77 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 111.9040 | Well actually | 112.5745 |
79 | | 113.4560 | this neighborhood was, uh, like a big family when I was younger. | 116.9735 |
81 | | 117.0929 | [So] | 117.5796 |
82 | DTA_int_09 | 117.1480 | [Uh-huh.] | 117.5132 |
83 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 118.0265 | tag and- | 118.8774 |
85 | | 119.4529 | and just sitting around on the porch talking, and bicycle riding, | 122.7286 |
86 | DTA_int_09 | 123.6959 | [Mm-hm.] | 124.0785 |
87 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 124.0265 | [so] forth, were about the | 125.7898 |
88 | | 126.3439 | essence of it. | 127.2285 |
90 | | 127.5224 | And this baseball, it was mainly for the fellas. I [don't know what] the girls did while we were playing baseball. | 132.6975 |
91 | DTA_int_09 | 130.1489 | [Yeah.] | 130.5059 |
92 | | 133.2744 | Did you ever play any games, uh, like where one person would go hide and the other would try- try to find them? | 138.7510 |
94 | | 139.8871 | What would you call that? | 140.7372 |
95 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 142.5958 | <ts> Hide and seek. | 143.4442 |
96 | DTA_int_09 | 143.5049 | Uh-huh. [And how] did you play that? | 144.9071 |
97 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 143.8970 | [Yeah.] | 144.1683 |
98 | | 146.2172 | Uh, it was the same principle as tag, really. Uh, | 148.9441 |
100 | | 149.2203 | the person that was | 150.5826 |
102 | | 150.7265 | supposed to hide would be chosen by some rhyme or some form of a lot- | 155.0458 |
104 | | 155.4162 | lottery. | 155.9520 |
106 | | 156.7020 | And, uh, | 157.3938 |
108 | | 157.8835 | he would count to | 158.8283 |
110 | | 159.1296 | some given number and then go | 160.9378 |
112 | | 161.6427 | try and find the rest of us. | 163.1887 |
113 | DTA_int_09 | 163.7550 | Mm-hm. | 164.1860 |
115 | | 165.5061 | Did you have to run back to the goal, or? | 167.5313 |
116 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 171.5000 | <ts> Well if you were spotted, | 172.7959 |
118 | | 173.2876 | and you could back to the goal before the person | 175.8713 |
120 | | 176.1590 | that was it | 176.8755 |
122 | | 176.9704 | got back to the goal, | 178.0362 |
123 | DTA_int_09 | 178.1856 | [Mm-hm.] | 178.5078 |
124 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 178.4489 | [then] you were free. | 179.3396 |
125 | | 180.3224 | Otherwise, | 181.4581 |
127 | | 181.7733 | if you could keep from being seen and sneak back to the goal, you didn't have to run. | 185.9092 |
128 | DTA_int_09 | 186.8061 | Mm-hm. | 187.2071 |
130 | | 188.8571 | Um, | 189.2826 |
132 | | 192.7142 | how about | 193.1948 |
134 | | 193.4183 | t- uh, you ever hear of tackle tackle pom-pom? | 195.8274 |
135 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 197.4529 | No, I never have. | 198.4357 |
136 | DTA_int_09 | 198.8367 | Uh-huh. | 199.2067 |
138 | | 199.7152 | How about marbles, do you ever play that? | 201.2704 |
139 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 202.9754 | Uh, we played with marbles rather infrequently. It [wasn't any-] ever any big | 207.1173 |
140 | DTA_int_09 | 205.7607 | [Uh-huh.] | 206.0917 |
141 | | 207.4816 | [How did you] play marbles? | 208.5621 |
142 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 207.5275 | [thing.] | 207.8152 |
143 | | 210.2275 | In a circle, the- | 211.2499 |
145 | | 211.5958 | everyone would put a certain amount of marbles in the circle and, uh, | 214.9148 |
147 | | 215.4774 | we'd just take turns shooting at 'em. We didn't have any elaborate rules or | 218.7286 |
148 | DTA_int_09 | 219.0194 | [Mm-hm.] | 219.3227 |
149 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 219.2061 | [anything] for marbles. | 220.4324 |
150 | DTA_int_09 | 221.2111 | Good. | 221.5447 |
152 | | 222.1173 | Uh- uh, do you watch TV /not in the/ summer, when you're not in school much? | 225.8967 |
153 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 226.2989 | Not very often. | 227.1284 |
154 | DTA_int_09 | 227.4314 | Uh-huh. | 227.8847 |
156 | | 228.2765 | How about the movies? Have you seen any of the | 230.4590 |
158 | | 231.8887 | [/recent movies/?] | 232.4932 |
159 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 232.1213 | [Oh,] not too many. | 233.5349 |
160 | | 234.1816 | [Maybe] four or five. | 235.3745 |
161 | DTA_int_09 | 234.2183 | [Uh-huh.] | 234.5030 |
162 | | 235.6509 | What are some of the ones that you've seen [recently?] | 237.7981 |
163 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 237.6254 | [<ts> I've] seen, uh, A Patch of Blue. | 239.9153 |
164 | DTA_int_09 | 240.2244 | What did you think of A Patch of Blue? | 241.7689 |
165 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 243.1693 | Well I thought that for once it was a picture that was, uh, exactly what it was- | 247.2532 |
167 | | 247.4978 | was claimed to be in the advertisement. | 249.3734 |
169 | | 249.9989 | [I thought] it was pretty good, as- as far as a human interest story. | 253.5927 |
170 | DTA_int_09 | 250.0387 | [Oh.] | 250.2744 |
171 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 254.0886 | That's what it was. | 255.3622 |
172 | DTA_int_09 | 255.5458 | Mm-hm. | 255.9713 |
173 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 256.6264 | And, uh, | 257.2110 |
175 | | 257.3396 | as such, I f- | 258.2030 |
177 | | 258.3836 | I feel like it re- uh, | 259.8284 |
179 | | 260.0029 | realized its goal. | 261.0826 |
180 | DTA_int_09 | 261.3071 | Yeah. I liked it too. | 262.5162 |
182 | | 263.0672 | How about s- uh, Sidney Poitier? Did you | 265.3050 |
184 | | 265.7182 | think he did a pretty good job? | 266.9113 |
185 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 269.1468 | <ts> | 269.2814 |
187 | | 269.4590 | Well | 269.8326 |
189 | | 270.0530 | not being a, uh, | 271.1948 |
191 | | 273.0714 | a critic or anything, it'd be kind of- | 275.2967 |
193 | | 275.9704 | but I- I thought he did a good job. He was convincing enough. | 278.8602 |
194 | DTA_int_09 | 279.2275 | Mm-hm. | 279.6315 |
196 | | 281.5143 | Uh, | 281.8540 |
198 | | 282.0806 | how about any- any other movies you've seen recently? | 284.6086 |
199 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 285.0469 | Oh, let's see. | 286.2805 |
201 | | 290.6151 | I saw- | 291.4307 |
203 | | 291.7295 | I can't remember the name of that picture. | 293.7989 |
205 | | 297.4326 | The Silencers, that what it [was.] | 299.2828 |
206 | DTA_int_09 | 299.1651 | [What] was that about? | 300.0285 |
207 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 300.3897 | Oh, it was a take off on James Bond. | 302.7110 |
209 | | 303.2765 | [Had] Dean Martin in it. | 304.4580 |
210 | DTA_int_09 | 303.2765 | [Mm-hm.] | 303.5489 |
211 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 304.6080 | It- it was, uh, | 305.8265 |
213 | | 307.0631 | sort of- | 307.5774 |
215 | | 308.2631 | it was- it was half comedy | 309.7782 |
217 | | 310.5192 | and, uh, | 311.1650 |
219 | | 311.3813 | I don't know. It's | 312.2549 |
221 | | 313.4182 | [mediocre.] | 314.1835 |
222 | DTA_int_09 | 313.4182 | [Mm-hm.] | 313.6765 |
223 | | 315.9438 | How about A Patch of Blue? Could you describe it for me? Say | 318.9989 |
225 | | 319.2180 | that I hadn't seen it. | 320.3396 |
227 | | 320.6428 | Could you tell me what it was about? | 322.1029 |
229 | | 323.0182 | After your /unintelligible/ about? (laughing) | 325.3509 |
231 | | 325.6570 | <laugh> | 325.9578 |
232 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 326.6304 | Well I feel | 327.4648 |
234 | | 328.3141 | that the, uh, | 329.2386 |
236 | | 331.3815 | the underlying theme of the picture was just | 333.5979 |
238 | | 334.3539 | the- | 334.7825 |
240 | | 334.9171 | the | 335.2875 |
242 | | 335.4528 | cruelty that this blind girl | 337.3539 |
244 | | 338.0763 | whose name I can't remember [but] | 339.9376 |
245 | DTA_int_09 | 339.9162 | [Mm-hm.] | 340.2921 |
246 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 341.3151 | it was a blind girl who | 342.8534 |
248 | | 343.3723 | had lost | 344.2202 |
250 | | 344.4681 | or had been separated from her father somehow. | 347.1413 |
251 | DTA_int_09 | 347.4834 | Mm-hm. | 347.8479 |
252 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 348.2366 | Her mother was a prostitute, | 350.0365 |
254 | | 350.5691 | and, uh, her grandfather was a drunk. | 352.7243 |
256 | | 354.1754 | And she was, uh, terribly mistreated in the home, made to do all the work, and | 358.1641 |
258 | | 358.8222 | exist off of | 360.0469 |
260 | | 360.1601 | the money she made selling beads. | 362.3225 |
262 | | 362.8969 | Not allowed to go out or have friends or [anything of this] nature. | 366.4938 |
263 | DTA_int_09 | 365.5969 | [Mm-hm.] | 365.9452 |
264 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 367.4029 | And the story | 368.6150 |
266 | | 369.1111 | develops around the- the friendship | 371.5997 |
268 | | 372.1999 | that she acquires | 373.4672 |
270 | | 374.5293 | with, uh, Sidney Poitier. | 376.3325 |
272 | | 376.5927 | As she sits in the park, | 377.9061 |
274 | | 378.2887 | making these, uh, | 379.3355 |
275 | DTA_int_09 | 379.4488 | Mm-hm. | 379.8058 |
276 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 379.8743 | necklaces one day. | 381.0897 |
278 | | 381.9376 | And it- it's just the story of how | 383.9367 |
280 | | 384.6866 | a person comes to realize that they're a person. | 387.5991 |
282 | | 388.6263 | And | 389.1436 |
284 | | 389.5661 | what it- | 389.9611 |
286 | | 390.0989 | what it does to them | 391.2774 |
288 | | 391.4059 | inside. | 392.1987 |
289 | DTA_int_09 | 392.7438 | Mm-hm. | 393.0558 |
290 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 393.4907 | What it does to the person that helps them to realize this. | 396.6774 |
292 | | 397.9294 | And, uh, in a lesser extent | 399.7570 |
294 | | 400.2406 | the, uh, | 400.8804 |
296 | | 401.8234 | feelings of this- | 402.9713 |
298 | | 403.2468 | of the mother and the grandfather who had treated this girl so shabbily. | 406.9539 |
299 | DTA_int_09 | 407.8479 | Mm-hm. | 408.2703 |
300 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 409.6508 | And then it- it goes on, she | 411.6027 |
302 | | 412.2743 | is able to get into a school for the blind | 414.7385 |
304 | | 415.5406 | so that her life might be a little better. | 417.3256 |
305 | DTA_int_09 | 417.8733 | Mm-hm. | 418.2682 |
306 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 418.3172 | But it- there aren't any | 419.4528 |
308 | | 419.9122 | other overtones. | 420.9100 |
309 | DTA_int_09 | 420.9284 | Very good. | 421.5176 |
311 | | 421.8345 | Um, | 422.1957 |
313 | | 422.6550 | how about any particular | 424.2271 |
315 | | 424.4702 | TV programs that you like? | 425.9734 |
317 | | 427.2314 | That you watch [sometimes.] | 428.5739 |
318 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 428.3671 | [None] in particular that- that I think are- | 430.7824 |
319 | | 431.1651 | that I look at above any other. | 432.8674 |
320 | DTA_int_09 | 433.0631 | Uh-huh. | 433.5057 |
321 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 434.1865 | I might look at a late movie | 435.7478 |
323 | | 436.2192 | if there's something on that I | 437.7719 |
325 | | 437.8999 | haven't seen and wanted to see. | 439.6500 |
327 | | 440.2780 | But this is pretty seldom too. | 441.9988 |
328 | DTA_int_09 | 442.4273 | Mm-hm. | 442.8804 |
330 | | 443.7805 | Uh, do you have a pet around the house at all? | 446.2636 |
331 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 446.7805 | No we don't, not now. | 447.9125 |
332 | DTA_int_09 | 448.2835 | Well did you have one when you were younger? | 449.8601 |
333 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 450.6590 | Yes, I had a dog. | 452.0120 |
335 | | 452.7775 | [When I was] about | 453.5060 |
336 | DTA_int_09 | 452.7775 | [Mm-hm.] | 453.1620 |
337 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 454.3478 | ten, I think. | 455.2661 |
338 | DTA_int_09 | 456.8917 | Can you tell me about your dog then? | 458.4910 |
340 | | 458.7805 | [/unintelligible/.] | 459.7637 |
341 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 459.0897 | [If I can remember.] | 460.3906 |
342 | | 460.8161 | See, he was black and white, I d- | 462.3646 |
344 | | 462.7907 | really don't know what kind of dog he was. I don't think I ever did. | 465.9070 |
345 | DTA_int_09 | 466.1855 | Mm-hm. | 466.5957 |
346 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 467.5999 | And is- let's see, his name was Reddy. | 470.2934 |
348 | | 471.5550 | And he was s- sort of stupid. | 472.9477 |
350 | | 473.3548 | [<laugh>] | 473.7419 |
351 | DTA_int_09 | 473.5724 | [<laugh>] | 474.1572 |
352 | | 474.5519 | <laugh> | 474.8552 |
353 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 475.6202 | [Uh,] we used to have a lot of fun though. | 477.4509 |
354 | DTA_int_09 | 475.6202 | [Yeah.] | 475.8858 |
355 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 478.0876 | Outside of the times that he would get caught in the rope and half choke himself, or run out | 482.1803 |
357 | | 482.2995 | in front of cars. | 483.3408 |
358 | DTA_int_09 | 483.4417 | Uh-huh. | 483.7537 |
360 | | 484.6906 | Think a dog's good with kids around the house /or not/? | 487.3040 |
361 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 489.3652 | Yeah, well it- | 489.9253 |
363 | | 490.1335 | I think it depends on the kid. If- if the kid is, uh, a responsible sort of kid, | 495.2621 |
365 | | 495.7723 | then I think a pet | 496.7977 |
367 | | 497.0181 | helps him. | 497.6395 |
369 | | 497.8448 | If not, I- | 498.7649 |
371 | | 499.4396 | I don't because they, | 500.8517 |
373 | | 501.0866 | in the first place, | 502.1663 |
375 | | 503.2385 | a lot of kids just want a dog to have one. | 506.2411 |
377 | | 506.4436 | [And they] | 506.8815 |
378 | DTA_int_09 | 506.4436 | [Uh-huh.] | 506.7672 |
379 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 507.1509 | don't play with 'em | 508.2896 |
381 | | 508.5130 | and they | 509.0059 |
383 | | 509.1375 | forget to feed 'em, | 510.2622 |
384 | DTA_int_09 | 510.6988 | [Mm-hm.] | 511.0500 |
385 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 511.0080 | [and] things like this. And | 512.6232 |
386 | | 513.1601 | a little puppy is the same as a little kid, it likes to played with, | 516.3035 |
388 | | 517.0906 | so on, and so forth. | 518.2416 |
390 | | 518.9917 | So | 519.5427 |
392 | | 520.2253 | if- if the kid isn't a sort of a- | 522.2243 |
394 | | 522.7692 | of a person that | 523.7487 |
396 | | 523.9691 | enjoys doing this and having a pet, I- | 526.2008 |
398 | | 527.1528 | I don't think that, uh, | 528.4110 |
400 | | 529.6324 | it's especially helpful. | 530.9335 |
401 | DTA_int_09 | 531.1601 | Mm-hm. | 531.5882 |
403 | | 531.7539 | Good. | 532.0263 |
405 | | 532.6814 | Uh, | 533.1211 |
407 | | 533.6303 | how about when you were younger, was there any way to get a wish? Say if you were eating chicken or turkey or something. | 538.9171 |
409 | | 540.1815 | How did that tradition work? | 541.5712 |
410 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 542.8937 | Well we did have the- that wishbone tradition with | 545.7652 |
411 | DTA_int_09 | 545.7652 | [Uh-huh.] | 546.0612 |
412 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 545.9366 | [turkey.] | 546.4111 |
413 | | 546.5641 | But it- | 547.0722 |
415 | | 547.9048 | we only did it two or three times. I mean, it [wasn't.] | 550.4093 |
416 | DTA_int_09 | 550.3202 | [What] did you when you | 551.3946 |
417 | | 551.7835 | did that? | 552.1899 |
418 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 552.8702 | You made a wish and then broke the bone. | 555.1662 |
419 | DTA_int_09 | 555.5274 | [Mm-hm.] | 555.8539 |
420 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 555.6008 | [And if] you got the large half, you were supposed to get your wish. But you never [did.] | 559.7830 |
421 | DTA_int_09 | 559.7089 | [<laugh>] | 560.2722 |
422 | | 561.1019 | How about when your tooth came out when you were younger? | 563.6706 |
424 | | 564.5886 | What happened [/inaudible/?] | 565.3569 |
425 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 564.9590 | [A good] fairy used to | 566.3827 |
426 | | 567.2855 | come in and slip a dime in there. | 569.2170 |
428 | | 569.5599 | [Or a] nickel or a quarter. | 571.1028 |
429 | DTA_int_09 | 569.5662 | [Mm-hm.] | 569.8434 |
430 | | 571.4120 | Uh-huh. [Do you still do that with your little brother?] | 573.6919 |
431 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 571.8681 | [Depends on how much money-] | 573.3073 |
432 | | 575.3242 | uh, | 575.8386 |
434 | | 578.5631 | I guess they do. | 579.4424 |
435 | DTA_int_09 | 579.8304 | Mm-hm. | 580.2039 |
437 | | 580.4181 | Good. | 580.6706 |
439 | | 581.4278 | Uh, tell me about your- your school. Tell me about college first. | 584.3734 |
441 | | 584.5417 | Uh, what | 585.1054 |
443 | | 585.2733 | courses do you study, or what your major is, or what you'd like to do? | 588.4109 |
444 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 590.3334 | Well let's see, I've had | 591.5243 |
446 | | 592.8375 | <ts> eight hours of history, and- | 594.6876 |
448 | | 595.0079 | <ts> | 595.1365 |
450 | | 596.1191 | No, | 596.4987 |
452 | | 599.9121 | fourteen hours of history. | 601.5069 |
453 | DTA_int_09 | 601.8803 | Mm-hm. | 602.2751 |
454 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 603.2182 | Six hours of sociology. | 605.1991 |
456 | | 605.5478 | Four hours of anthropology. Three hours of psych. | 608.7560 |
457 | DTA_int_09 | 609.0376 | Mm-hm. | 609.4570 |
458 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 609.9161 | Four hours of management. | 611.4803 |
460 | | 614.0395 | Uh, f- eight hours of science. | 616.2773 |
462 | | 617.4497 | Eight hours of English. | 618.9865 |
463 | DTA_int_09 | 619.3324 | Mm-hm. | 619.7489 |
465 | | 621.5427 | Well what [course do you like, uh] best? What are your? | 624.2610 |
466 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 622.2161 | [Mostly basics.] | 623.3456 |
467 | | 624.4478 | I find that the English and the sociology and the psychology are about the [most interesting.] | 629.9702 |
468 | DTA_int_09 | 629.0426 | [Uh-huh.] | 629.3850 |
469 | | 630.2978 | Any particular reasons why you think these are so interesting? | 633.2902 |
470 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 633.8885 | Well mainly because they deal with people. | 636.1293 |
471 | DTA_int_09 | 636.6192 | [Mm-hm.] | 636.9987 |
472 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 636.7263 | [I-] I don't feel that | 637.9691 |
473 | | 638.4772 | dealing with, uh, f- | 639.9192 |
475 | | 640.0661 | numbers | 640.8589 |
477 | | 640.9936 | and, uh, things like this are especially interesting. Not to me, | 644.1527 |
479 | | 644.2905 | personally. | 644.8478 |
480 | DTA_int_09 | 645.0835 | Mm-hm. | 645.4722 |
481 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 645.6773 | But when you- when you start | 647.2017 |
483 | | 647.9029 | getting into behavior | 649.2293 |
485 | | 649.9323 | and things like this, I find this pretty interesting. | 652.5373 |
486 | DTA_int_09 | 652.8130 | Uh-huh. | 653.2415 |
488 | | 653.5937 | And you're pretty interested in psychology and, uh, | 656.3366 |
490 | | 657.6253 | [/inaudible/.] | 658.3630 |
491 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 657.7416 | [Sociology] more than- than psychology, now that I've | 660.9804 |
492 | | 661.5191 | been able to see both of 'em. | 662.9917 |
493 | DTA_int_09 | 663.3620 | Mm-hm. | 663.7722 |
494 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 664.3048 | And | 664.7344 |
496 | | 664.8681 | even history | 665.8294 |
498 | | 665.9855 | because, uh, you find in history classes | 668.3517 |
500 | | 668.8233 | on a higher level give you an insight into why people did what they did at the time, whereas | 674.1558 |
502 | | 674.6672 | in high school you just | 676.2824 |
504 | | 676.6079 | are given the facts. This happened [at] | 678.6180 |
505 | DTA_int_09 | 678.5304 | [Yeah.] | 678.7600 |
506 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 678.8226 | this time | 679.6813 |
508 | | 680.0578 | and this was the result, but | 681.5365 |
510 | | 681.7753 | you- | 682.2252 |
512 | | 682.6721 | and you don't even question | 684.2420 |
514 | | 684.5794 | why in high school | 685.8361 |
516 | | 685.9721 | for some odd reason, whereas when you get in college, | 688.7272 |
518 | | 689.2996 | a simple question like | 690.9650 |
520 | | 691.8497 | why did the Battle of- | 693.5192 |
522 | | 693.6375 | of Lexington start, | 695.2281 |
524 | | 695.7223 | for instance. | 696.4580 |
525 | DTA_int_09 | 696.6865 | Mm-hm. | 697.0722 |
526 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 698.0395 | Uh, you might know that it started because of political [reasons,] | 701.6855 |
527 | DTA_int_09 | 701.6672 | [Yeah.] | 701.9182 |
528 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 702.0927 | but you don't | 702.6369 |
530 | | 702.8242 | know | 703.2959 |
532 | | 703.5099 | really why it started, as far as the people were concerned. And | 706.8374 |
534 | | 707.9794 | in this connection that I find, uh, sociology | 711.1539 |
536 | | 711.7202 | important because it deals with | 713.2047 |
538 | | 713.3394 | people. | 713.8447 |
539 | DTA_int_09 | 714.2304 | [Mm-hm. | 714.5549 |
540 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 714.4906 | [And] | 714.9085 |
541 | | 715.5589 | then history ties in there too. | 717.2120 |
543 | | 717.9926 | And all the rest- most of the rest of the subjects that I've taken. | 720.8249 |
544 | DTA_int_09 | 721.5987 | Good. | 721.9384 |
546 | | 722.2109 | Uh, do you have any Mickey Mouse courses? Do you know what a Mickey Mouse course is? | 725.9043 |
547 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 727.0722 | I thought I did, | 728.2415 |
549 | | 729.5242 | well | 729.9335 |
551 | | 730.1541 | one course I had, but | 731.5264 |
553 | | 731.6549 | that was just because I'm pretty good in English. | 733.8710 |
554 | DTA_int_09 | 734.1435 | Mm-hm. | 734.5179 |
555 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 734.8325 | Course called Freshmen Reading, | 736.3476 |
557 | | 737.1252 | in which you were | 737.9763 |
559 | | 738.3161 | completely on your own. You were only required to see your instructor one time | 741.9239 |
561 | | 742.7670 | and take | 743.2170 |
563 | | 743.3670 | the tests. | 744.1171 |
565 | | 744.3926 | And you were given eight books to read. | 746.1619 |
567 | | 746.7590 | You were tested in essay form and, uh, objectively. | 750.1294 |
569 | | 751.0079 | And I found that pretty easy as | 752.6513 |
570 | DTA_int_09 | 752.9794 | Mm-hm. | 753.5512 |
571 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 753.9691 | course, I had, uh, no great problem. | 755.3700 |
572 | DTA_int_09 | 756.7232 | What is, uh, | 757.3568 |
574 | | 757.5864 | particularly that's of interest in the area of English to you? | 760.5068 |
575 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 761.9886 | Writing. | 762.4297 |
576 | DTA_int_09 | 762.9252 | [Uh-huh.] | 763.2344 |
577 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 762.9803 | [Just-] | 763.3354 |
578 | | 763.9201 | just [plain write-] | 764.6121 |
579 | DTA_int_09 | 764.1137 | [Creative writing?] | 764.8753 |
580 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 766.5466 | Are you speaking of poetry and, like- | 768.0651 |
581 | DTA_int_09 | 768.1477 | Well yeah, I'm thinking of [short stories] or, uh. | 770.5449 |
582 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 769.0783 | [no I don't-] | 769.5711 |
583 | | 771.8548 | essays. | 772.6721 |
585 | | 772.9354 | [I'd say,] | 773.6118 |
586 | DTA_int_09 | 773.0364 | [Uh-huh.] | 773.3455 |
587 | | 774.0039 | [Mm-hm.] | 774.3246 |
588 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 774.0773 | [Rather] than short stories. | 775.5823 |
589 | DTA_int_09 | 776.2200 | Good. | 776.4588 |
591 | | 777.6956 | Uh, how about when you were | 778.8894 |
593 | | 779.3700 | younger, when you were in elementary school and, uh, high school? | 782.5454 |
595 | | 782.8967 | Any particular subjects that you liked then? | 785.0126 |
596 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 786.9834 | I used to enjoy history | 788.4012 |
597 | DTA_int_09 | 789.0743 | Mm-hm. | 789.4293 |
598 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 789.4293 | and English. | 790.1946 |
599 | | 791.7896 | Um, | 792.4209 |
601 | | 792.9589 | <ts> | 793.1150 |
603 | | 794.4404 | I took an art class in high school that I found pretty enjoying. | 797.4771 |
604 | DTA_int_09 | 797.9304 | Uh-huh. | 798.3280 |
606 | | 799.5956 | What did it just deal with painting, or? | 801.2487 |
607 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 801.8058 | No, it was drawing. | 802.7639 |
608 | DTA_int_09 | 803.0241 | [Uh-huh.] | 803.3942 |
609 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 803.2139 | [S-] | 803.5231 |
610 | | 804.4538 | and, uh, | 805.1181 |
612 | | 805.7119 | sometimes I wish I had, uh, | 807.1263 |
614 | | 807.7997 | continued in that line, but | 809.3914 |
616 | | 809.6271 | I didn't. I just took the one course that | 811.6843 |
618 | | 811.8251 | year. | 812.2170 |
619 | DTA_int_09 | 812.6916 | [Mm-hm.] | 813.0222 |
620 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 812.9916 | [And] didn't take it, | 813.7722 |
621 | | 814.0538 | art, | 814.3201 |
623 | | 814.4793 | any further. | 815.2513 |
624 | DTA_int_09 | 816.0742 | Uh, and tell me, from your class- | 817.5282 |
626 | | 817.6109 | from your f- | 818.1006 |
628 | | 818.2182 | seat in the classroom, what are some of the common objects you could see when you were in elementary school? | 823.0936 |
630 | | 824.2721 | Or- or any school, as a matter of fact. | 826.1701 |
631 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 826.7853 | Well through grade and high school, | 828.6313 |
633 | | 829.2068 | the only thing that- that you could really pay attention to was a nun because most of them were overpowering. | 835.9262 |
634 | DTA_int_09 | 836.1105 | <laugh> | 836.8143 |
635 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 837.1722 | And they held your attention pretty well. You- | 839.3118 |
637 | | 839.8171 | you weren't too prone to gaze around for fear that the yardstick would come | 843.5579 |
639 | | 843.6742 | crashing down on your hand at any minute. | 845.6669 |
640 | DTA_int_09 | 845.7590 | Uh-huh. | 846.1538 |
642 | | 846.5426 | They- they hit you with a yardstick? | 848.2108 |
643 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 848.7436 | They used to, uh, | 850.2660 |
645 | | 851.5047 | do that when they felt that- | 852.8303 |
647 | | 852.9834 | that you needed it. | 853.9760 |
648 | DTA_int_09 | 854.2353 | Uh-huh. | 854.7098 |
650 | | 855.9650 | Huh, very interesting. | 857.0394 |
652 | | 857.6579 | Does- does your sister go to /RD-SCHOOL-4/? | 859.5068 |
653 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 859.9384 | Yeah, all three of us went there. | 861.2640 |
654 | DTA_int_09 | 861.5334 | Uh, what grade's your sister in? | 862.8598 |
655 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 863.1496 | She's a junior. | 864.4332 |
656 | DTA_int_09 | 864.8334 | Oh, is that right? I interviewed somebody from the other day- other week, uh, /RD-NAME-2/ | 868.6008 |
658 | | 869.2629 | /RD-NAME-2/, I guess it was. | 870.4415 |
659 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 871.7884 | Uh, I don't know too many of the people [there anymore.] | 874.4670 |
660 | DTA_int_09 | 873.7377 | [Yeah.] | 874.0415 |
661 | | 874.5343 | Yeah, I'll- I'll have to ask her later. | 876.2365 |
663 | | 876.8058 | Uh, what did the teacher write on? | 878.4373 |
664 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 880.6139 | Pardon? | 880.9782 |
665 | DTA_int_09 | 881.1037 | What did the teacher write on in the front of the room? | 883.2312 |
666 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 884.1037 | A blackboard. | 884.7651 |
668 | | 884.9579 | Just a plain old- | 885.8779 |
669 | DTA_int_09 | 886.4456 | Yeah. | 886.7547 |
670 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 887.7038 | one of the old style blackboards, that's- | 889.6537 |
672 | | 889.7915 | that gets chalk dusty and hard to read in the sun, [and so forth.] | 893.7792 |
673 | DTA_int_09 | 893.2882 | [How about the] green ones? | 894.3839 |
674 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 894.4232 | No. | 894.7691 |
675 | DTA_int_09 | 895.7976 | And what did you sit in? | 896.8722 |
677 | | 897.1171 | Any | 897.3742 |
679 | | 897.6191 | special types of chairs? | 898.9720 |
680 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 900.7538 | They were the | 901.5313 |
682 | | 902.0853 | desks that opened, uh, | 903.6686 |
684 | | 903.9589 | from the back, | 904.7700 |
686 | | 905.0271 | hinged at the front. | 905.9793 |
687 | DTA_int_09 | 906.2854 | Uh-huh. | 906.6772 |
689 | | 908.8446 | If you walked outside the classroom, where would you be? | 911.1190 |
690 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 912.3099 | In a hall with a wooden floor. | 914.0935 |
692 | | 914.3792 | Lockers on each side, the | 915.9252 |
693 | DTA_int_09 | 916.0782 | [Uh-huh.] | 916.4323 |
694 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 916.3966 | [Catholic] schools are usually, | 917.8599 |
695 | | 919.3139 | uh, older. You'll find, they're- | 921.0099 |
697 | | 921.1722 | they're not | 921.6627 |
699 | | 921.8150 | nearly as modern as the | 923.4496 |
701 | | 924.1446 | public schools. | 925.1915 |
702 | DTA_int_09 | 925.3598 | [/unintelligible/.] | 925.7793 |
703 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 925.5527 | [We] had wooden lockers | 927.0402 |
704 | | 927.2946 | instead of metal ones, and they didn't lock. | 929.4189 |
706 | | 929.5230 | There were | 930.0846 |
708 | | 930.5915 | nothing to lock them with. | 931.9812 |
710 | | 933.0497 | The floors in the- | 934.3047 |
712 | | 934.5680 | on the bottom floor were wooden. | 936.4170 |
714 | | 937.8557 | And, uh, | 938.5138 |
716 | | 939.3436 | it was just an older school. | 940.5699 |
717 | DTA_int_09 | 940.7700 | Uh-huh. | 941.2257 |
719 | | 942.5578 | Uh, | 943.0996 |
721 | | 943.7027 | any place to get a drink out in the hall? | 945.3926 |
722 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 947.9120 | Just on the second and third floors, there was, uh, | 951.3885 |
724 | | 952.8404 | two fountains- | 953.7467 |
726 | | 953.8691 | were [two fountains] on each floor. | 955.2986 |
727 | DTA_int_09 | 954.1018 | [Mm-hm.] | 954.4293 |
728 | | 955.7302 | Mm-hm. | 956.0547 |
730 | | 956.5108 | Good. | 956.7497 |
732 | | 957.7446 | Uh, | 958.2741 |
734 | | 958.6598 | how about when you were in elementary school, | 960.5058 |
736 | | 961.8129 | was there any | 962.4559 |
738 | | 962.5477 | place outside that you could | 964.1027 |
740 | | 964.3813 | play with- | 965.0149 |
742 | | 965.3700 | play in? Like. | 966.2181 |
743 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 967.4792 | Well in elementary school they used to block off the street | 970.2343 |
745 | | 970.9139 | [parallel] to the school at noon hour. | 972.8889 |
746 | DTA_int_09 | 970.9139 | [Mm-hm.] | 971.0982 |
747 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 972.9803 | That was the only place we could play that- | 974.7742 |
749 | | 975.2854 | [most] Catholic schools don't have playgrounds attached [to them.] | 978.2708 |
750 | DTA_int_09 | 975.2854 | [Huh.] | 975.5568 |
752 | | 977.8416 | [Okay.] Okay, y- you mentioned playground. What were some of the things you might find in the playground to play on? | 983.1168 |
753 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 985.5190 | Well when I was a kid, | 986.6393 |
755 | | 987.1262 | the playgrounds around here anyway | 989.0695 |
757 | | 989.7956 | if you found a swing or something | 991.9077 |
759 | | 992.0730 | or slide, you were pretty lucky. | 993.8218 |
761 | | 994.2710 | Most of 'em were just | 995.5138 |
763 | | 995.8140 | the- | 996.1874 |
765 | | 996.7782 | some sort of grass or dirt or something. | 999.0099 |
766 | DTA_int_09 | 999.3068 | Anything that, | 1000.1731 |
768 | | 1000.3506 | uh, | 1000.7091 |
770 | | 1000.9996 | you sat on a long board and one went up and the other down? | 1003.8618 |
771 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1004.2261 | No. | 1004.6026 |
773 | | 1004.8660 | They didn't have any | 1005.6037 |
775 | | 1005.7231 | [teeter] totters. | 1006.7143 |
776 | DTA_int_09 | 1005.7445 | [What-] | 1005.9840 |
777 | | 1007.1955 | Anything else you can call that? | 1008.4507 |
778 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1009.3629 | Seesaws. | 1010.2659 |
779 | DTA_int_09 | 1010.3118 | Uh-huh. | 1010.6730 |
781 | | 1011.3497 | How about these bars that the kids- kids climb all over? | 1014.3494 |
782 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1014.9894 | Monkey bars. | 1016.0118 |
783 | DTA_int_09 | 1016.0822 | Uh-huh. What are they like? | 1017.2258 |
784 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1021.5680 | They're just a- | 1022.5077 |
786 | | 1024.9536 | a mass of intertwined bars so that it's- it's possible for a person to get | 1029.5670 |
788 | | 1030.0108 | entangled in there hopelessly. | 1031.7340 |
789 | DTA_int_09 | 1032.0405 | [<laugh>] | 1032.5364 |
790 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1032.2670 | [<laugh>] | 1032.5027 |
791 | | 1033.2986 | Made in sort of a- | 1034.3577 |
793 | | 1036.0231 | an open end, uh, | 1037.5512 |
795 | | 1039.0415 | what would you call it. | 1039.7975 |
797 | | 1043.5781 | I don't wanna say it's pear shaped because it's a little flatter on the sides and top [than that,] but | 1048.2084 |
798 | DTA_int_09 | 1047.7220 | [Mm-hm.] | 1048.0587 |
799 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1048.6904 | that give you the general idea. Open at one end | 1051.1853 |
801 | | 1051.4884 | so it'll fit on the ground | 1053.0436 |
802 | DTA_int_09 | 1053.6925 | Good. | 1053.9557 |
804 | | 1054.4363 | Uh, what did the kids do, or w- | 1055.9823 |
806 | | 1056.0925 | d- you- did you do when you were in elementary school after | 1059.2731 |
808 | | 1059.6864 | school was out? | 1060.4608 |
809 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1061.9211 | Well most of us came straight home. | 1063.6537 |
811 | | 1063.9720 | [Uh,] | 1064.4311 |
812 | DTA_int_09 | 1064.0026 | [Mm-hm.] | 1064.3240 |
813 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1065.4629 | in elementary school, most kids are | 1067.6852 |
815 | | 1068.7568 | urged by their folks to come straight home and- | 1071.4599 |
817 | | 1071.7506 | and not | 1072.2542 |
819 | | 1072.8006 | /terry/ along the way. | 1073.9357 |
821 | | 1074.6374 | But as it- | 1075.1914 |
823 | | 1075.3659 | as I | 1076.0485 |
825 | | 1076.4740 | got, uh, | 1077.2214 |
827 | | 1077.5792 | more advanced, say sixth and seventh grade, there were- | 1080.2364 |
829 | | 1080.5976 | were times when I'd go over to a friend's house | 1082.9334 |
831 | | 1083.0589 | after school. | 1083.8280 |
832 | DTA_int_09 | 1084.0690 | Is there any particular term that they use | 1086.1599 |
834 | | 1086.2701 | for, um, | 1086.8578 |
836 | | 1087.8989 | kind of fooling around, messing around after school and running all over the place? | 1091.5624 |
837 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1093.2649 | Just fooling around and [messing] around. | 1095.1212 |
838 | DTA_int_09 | 1094.3165 | [Uh-huh.] | 1094.5893 |
839 | | 1095.1212 | Ever heard of ripping and running? | 1096.4563 |
840 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1097.7650 | From the parents, the kids didn't use that expression. | 1100.2291 |
841 | DTA_int_09 | 1100.4250 | Uh-huh. | 1100.8328 |
843 | | 1102.7761 | Did you ever have a teacher that you can recall who hollered a lot? | 1105.6904 |
844 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1106.7619 | Quite a few, [yes.] | 1108.0292 |
845 | DTA_int_09 | 1107.9159 | [<laugh>] About what? (laughing) | 1108.8985 |
846 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1110.5241 | Well like I say, | 1111.9383 |
848 | | 1112.2842 | the nuns tended to be overpowering and, uh, | 1115.2413 |
850 | | 1117.2037 | I guess it's- it's part of their training | 1119.4299 |
852 | | 1119.7017 | when they're | 1120.2159 |
854 | | 1121.3607 | going through their period | 1122.5841 |
856 | | 1123.2435 | of, uh, becoming a nun. But | 1125.0405 |
858 | | 1125.5547 | when they get through | 1126.7179 |
860 | | 1127.6087 | most of them feel like | 1128.8976 |
862 | | 1129.8373 | you owe them | 1131.1476 |
864 | | 1132.3445 | first respect for being a nun, then for being a teacher. | 1135.6720 |
865 | DTA_int_09 | 1135.9322 | Mm-hm. | 1136.3332 |
866 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1136.7405 | And a lot of- it's hard for a lot of kids to | 1139.2995 |
868 | | 1139.8293 | realize what exactly- what it is that they want | 1142.9731 |
870 | | 1143.1966 | from you. | 1143.7553 |
872 | | 1143.8731 | Which is absolute | 1144.9873 |
874 | | 1145.2536 | obedience. | 1146.1813 |
875 | DTA_int_09 | 1146.1996 | Mm-hm. | 1146.5333 |
876 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1147.2771 | So there were | 1148.3026 |
878 | | 1148.3974 | quite a few times when the nuns would get | 1150.6720 |
880 | | 1151.1648 | quite upset. | 1152.0527 |
882 | | 1153.1026 | And | 1153.5075 |
884 | | 1153.6291 | in my opinion, a- a lot of it was uncalled for. | 1156.4580 |
885 | DTA_int_09 | 1157.3546 | Yeah. I- are they pretty good teachers, generally? Or how [did they?] | 1160.5321 |
886 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1160.0026 | [They're excellent] teachers. | 1161.3189 |
887 | DTA_int_09 | 1161.8333 | Uh-huh. | 1162.2128 |
888 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1162.4547 | In my opinion. | 1163.4923 |
889 | DTA_int_09 | 1164.0711 | Yeah. | 1164.3313 |
891 | | 1166.3332 | Can you, uh, recall any | 1167.7965 |
893 | | 1167.9649 | particular incident when you got | 1169.3454 |
895 | | 1169.5123 | yelled at? | 1170.1029 |
896 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1171.7577 | There was one time, we- | 1173.2670 |
898 | | 1174.4883 | we had a boy that, | 1175.6731 |
900 | | 1176.1262 | uh, | 1176.7169 |
902 | | 1177.3291 | laughed a lot, | 1178.2597 |
904 | | 1178.3576 | I'll say. | 1178.9609 |
905 | DTA_int_09 | 1179.1904 | Mm-hm. | 1179.5170 |
906 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1179.8088 | And he would get spells where he just couldn't stop laughing. | 1183.1133 |
907 | DTA_int_09 | 1183.2894 | <laugh> | 1183.7900 |
908 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1184.5291 | And there was, uh, | 1185.7060 |
910 | | 1186.0506 | one time where we were in reading | 1187.5811 |
912 | | 1187.8537 | or something, | 1188.5576 |
914 | | 1189.3369 | and he started laughing and I got blamed for it. | 1191.8717 |
916 | | 1192.0169 | And | 1192.3478 |
918 | | 1192.4638 | promptly got hit with the yardstick. | 1194.4595 |
919 | DTA_int_09 | 1194.5486 | They really hit you, huh? | 1195.5694 |
920 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1195.6199 | Yeah. | 1195.9160 |
921 | DTA_int_09 | 1195.9160 | Did- do they ever get in any- any trouble from your- | 1198.1455 |
923 | | 1198.8709 | from the parents, like, you know, what's the deal? | 1200.7843 |
924 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1200.9312 | Occasionally. | 1201.9077 |
926 | | 1202.1311 | Uh, | 1202.5168 |
928 | | 1202.7099 | I can remember once | 1203.9985 |
930 | | 1204.4546 | a nun hit an eighth grader with a dictionary on top of the head and- | 1207.8128 |
931 | DTA_int_09 | 1207.9322 | [<laugh>] | 1208.3254 |
932 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1207.9597 | [and] | 1208.4525 |
933 | | 1208.5688 | just about knocked him out. | 1209.7647 |
935 | | 1210.5924 | And she was in trouble, in fact, she wasn't back the next year. | 1213.6934 |
937 | | 1213.8311 | They must've transferred her or [something.] | 1215.5884 |
938 | DTA_int_09 | 1215.5027 | [Uh-huh.] | 1215.8031 |
939 | | 1216.7730 | Like, do they have a lot of- | 1218.1588 |
941 | | 1218.6833 | I guess in the public schools you can't do anything like that. | 1221.3680 |
943 | | 1222.3873 | You know, don't they get in a lot of trouble in public schools? | 1225.2172 |
945 | | 1225.6077 | I suppose because it's a private school. | 1227.5030 |
946 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1227.6771 | Yeah in a public school it- | 1229.0638 |
948 | | 1229.1587 | the teacher would be more likely to get hit back. | 1231.6567 |
950 | | 1232.7894 | Uh, this only happens rarely in a Catholic school. | 1235.5413 |
951 | DTA_int_09 | 1235.6823 | Uh-huh. | 1236.0553 |
953 | | 1236.2210 | Hm. | 1236.5118 |
955 | | 1237.3750 | Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had? | 1239.4812 |
957 | | 1239.7169 | What was she like? | 1240.3874 |
958 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1242.3802 | Uh, I'd say the best teacher I had was Sister | 1244.8139 |
960 | | 1245.1965 | /RD-NAME-4/. | 1246.1424 |
962 | | 1246.2312 | My- she was my senior nun. | 1247.9119 |
964 | | 1248.9465 | She's just an excellent teacher, I mean, like she was born to teach or something. | 1252.9658 |
965 | DTA_int_09 | 1253.1632 | Mm-hm. Any particularly- | 1254.7016 |
967 | | 1255.0628 | particular qualities about her that you | 1257.0374 |
969 | | 1257.3771 | appreciated? | 1257.9128 |
970 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1259.0913 | She knew her material for one thing, and- | 1261.3437 |
972 | | 1261.4944 | and she didn't have any hesitancy | 1263.9679 |
974 | | 1264.4087 | about letting you know | 1265.6945 |
976 | | 1265.8047 | that she knew it. | 1266.6434 |
978 | | 1266.8791 | And letting you know that she could | 1268.4586 |
980 | | 1269.0618 | teach it to you if you wanted to learn it. | 1271.0581 |
982 | | 1271.7955 | And she was the kind of person that would | 1273.6597 |
984 | | 1273.9536 | go out of her way | 1274.9907 |
986 | | 1275.5914 | but was still not the kind of the person that you could walk over. You had to respect her | 1279.7393 |
987 | DTA_int_09 | 1279.8036 | [Mm-hm.] | 1280.1228 |
988 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1279.9872 | [for] what she was. | 1281.0618 |
989 | DTA_int_09 | 1282.9168 | Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand? | 1285.1292 |
990 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1289.0054 | No, not really. | 1290.0765 |
992 | | 1290.6679 | Not- | 1291.0444 |
994 | | 1291.2036 | not one that I couldn't stand. I've had some that | 1293.5516 |
996 | | 1294.4485 | if I could change them, I would've | 1296.2248 |
998 | | 1296.4843 | quite a bit, | 1297.2220 |
1000 | | 1297.3995 | but | 1297.6477 |
1002 | | 1298.1127 | not to the point of not being able to stand 'em. | 1300.2342 |
1003 | DTA_int_09 | 1300.4148 | Uh-huh. | 1300.8036 |
1005 | | 1301.6547 | Uh, can you recall any | 1303.2874 |
1007 | | 1303.5399 | particular trick that you pulled on the teacher? Most of us can | 1306.6474 |
1009 | | 1306.8066 | think of one big trick we pulled on, uh, | 1308.9158 |
1011 | | 1309.9780 | uh, like on April Fool's Day or something. | 1312.2556 |
1012 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1313.3392 | Uh, nothing | 1314.3190 |
1014 | | 1314.6802 | as specific as that. | 1316.3454 |
1016 | | 1316.4341 | We used to | 1317.1445 |
1018 | | 1317.3067 | in- in | 1318.2529 |
1020 | | 1318.4056 | the eighth grade, | 1319.3270 |
1022 | | 1321.0505 | we used to bring transistors to school when they first came out. | 1324.2250 |
1024 | | 1324.5525 | [Remember,] you had to | 1325.5757 |
1025 | DTA_int_09 | 1324.5525 | [Mm-hm.] | 1324.8733 |
1026 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1325.9486 | ground 'em to a radiator or something. | 1328.2502 |
1028 | | 1329.1475 | And we used to have the wires or antennas strung all over the room, | 1333.0536 |
1030 | | 1333.6995 | and yet keep them down so low that you could just barely hear it if you weren't sitting in a [desk.] | 1338.9381 |
1031 | DTA_int_09 | 1338.5577 | [<laugh>] | 1339.3806 |
1032 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1339.8188 | And the nun would hear it | 1341.0435 |
1034 | | 1341.5087 | but | 1341.8890 |
1036 | | 1342.1485 | she couldn't tell where it was coming from and | 1344.2516 |
1038 | | 1344.7322 | it used to drive her insane. | 1346.3910 |
1040 | | 1347.1690 | She used to get quite upset about that. | 1349.0715 |
1041 | DTA_int_09 | 1349.9241 | <laugh> What happened when she found out? | 1351.7338 |
1042 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1352.0913 | She never did | 1352.9424 |
1044 | | 1353.0863 | catch anyone. | 1353.8134 |
1045 | DTA_int_09 | 1354.1022 | Mm-hm. | 1354.4821 |
1046 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1354.7086 | No. | 1355.0117 |
1047 | DTA_int_09 | 1355.7802 | Uh, can you remember who the smartest kid in your class was? | 1358.6900 |
1048 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1361.2045 | For a while it was me. | 1362.4077 |
1049 | DTA_int_09 | 1362.7517 | Uh-huh. | 1363.1275 |
1050 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1363.4974 | <laugh> | 1363.9045 |
1052 | | 1364.2688 | No, uh. | 1365.1047 |
1053 | DTA_int_09 | 1365.2700 | Oh no, it's probably true. I- I don't doubt you were. | 1368.0832 |
1054 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1370.1525 | All through grade school | 1371.4016 |
1056 | | 1372.5250 | there was a kid named, uh, | 1374.4781 |
1058 | | 1376.1770 | /RD-NAME-3/ who was pretty smart. | 1378.4003 |
1059 | DTA_int_09 | 1378.7301 | But what's it about him that, uh, | 1380.4506 |
1061 | | 1381.1668 | made him so smart to [you?] | 1382.3576 |
1062 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1382.2872 | [Well] I- | 1382.6178 |
1063 | | 1382.7526 | in grade school, there's nothing to being smart but doing your work. | 1385.7833 |
1064 | DTA_int_09 | 1386.2547 | Yeah. | 1386.5231 |
1065 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1387.0505 | So he did his work. | 1388.4127 |
1067 | | 1388.8659 | And because he did his work, | 1390.3995 |
1069 | | 1390.9964 | he was smart. | 1391.6945 |
1071 | | 1391.8506 | A- [and] the only dumb kids that I can think of were the ones that never did their work. | 1396.1270 |
1072 | DTA_int_09 | 1391.9885 | [Yeah.] | 1392.2758 |
1073 | | 1396.6658 | Mm-hm. | 1397.0331 |
1074 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1397.1525 | And they probably weren't dumb, they just weren't working, so. | 1399.8213 |
1076 | | 1400.8598 | When the work got a little harder though, | 1402.6361 |
1078 | | 1403.5780 | I can think of, oh, maybe five people. | 1406.0729 |
1080 | | 1406.4678 | This was in high school though. | 1407.6128 |
1081 | DTA_int_09 | 1407.8883 | Uh-huh. | 1408.2403 |
1083 | | 1409.1066 | Any particular qualities in these smart kids that | 1411.8525 |
1085 | | 1412.2841 | stood out? | 1412.8751 |
1086 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1413.1842 | Uh, they- they knew what they were after. | 1415.1770 |
1088 | | 1415.5565 | And, uh, they studied. | 1416.8206 |
1090 | | 1417.9596 | They come to class and- and be ready. | 1419.9862 |
1091 | DTA_int_09 | 1420.9902 | Mm-hm. | 1421.4358 |
1092 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1421.9026 | It's just, uh, | 1422.8760 |
1094 | | 1424.2229 | the qualities of a student I guess. | 1425.9208 |
1095 | DTA_int_09 | 1426.2464 | Mm-hm. | 1426.6780 |
1097 | | 1427.3025 | Uh, how about the difference between college and high school? | 1430.3241 |
1099 | | 1430.4159 | Could you | 1430.7128 |
1101 | | 1431.3159 | contrast, compare these for me? | 1433.1892 |
1103 | | 1433.9638 | What do you think the difference is? | 1435.3280 |
1104 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1436.2412 | Well from my own personal experience, | 1438.3352 |
1106 | | 1438.4576 | the- the difference is freedom. | 1439.9853 |
1108 | | 1440.3618 | Because like I said, | 1441.6955 |
1110 | | 1442.2259 | going to a parochial school is- is highly | 1444.8977 |
1112 | | 1445.2627 | confining. | 1446.1322 |
1114 | | 1446.4658 | [It's, uh,] | 1447.1974 |
1115 | DTA_int_09 | 1446.5148 | [Mm-hm.] | 1446.8921 |
1116 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1447.8279 | very restricted, they- | 1449.3832 |
1118 | | 1449.5148 | they wanna be in on your social life as well as your academic life, and | 1453.6474 |
1120 | | 1454.6606 | everything is well ordered and | 1456.6137 |
1122 | | 1457.1647 | there are penalties that you face | 1459.3780 |
1123 | DTA_int_09 | 1459.7205 | [Mm-hm.] | 1460.1046 |
1124 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1459.8051 | [for the] slightest little infraction. Whereas in college you're | 1462.7576 |
1125 | | 1463.3698 | really only responsible to yourself. | 1465.5191 |
1127 | | 1465.7882 | And if you should happen to stray then | 1468.1913 |
1129 | | 1469.0790 | it's your fault. | 1469.9332 |
1130 | DTA_int_09 | 1470.3648 | Mm-hm. [How about the] studies as such? | 1472.4838 |
1131 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1470.8144 | [Cause.] | 1471.2077 |
1132 | DTA_int_09 | 1476.6311 | [/inaudible/.] | 1476.9315 |
1133 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1476.8117 | [Well.] | 1477.2326 |
1134 | | 1479.7474 | College has more depth- | 1481.0221 |
1136 | | 1481.3545 | depth to it, but I- | 1482.7302 |
1138 | | 1484.1341 | I would think that, in as far as in having to study, it's the same difference. | 1488.8419 |
1139 | DTA_int_09 | 1489.0015 | Mm-hm. | 1489.3474 |
1141 | | 1489.5402 | Good. | 1489.7971 |
1143 | | 1490.2631 | What time, um, | 1491.4836 |
1145 | | 1491.8668 | when you were in elementary school did you get out of school? | 1494.0451 |
1146 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1495.6657 | <ts> Three in the afternoon. | 1497.0863 |
1147 | DTA_int_09 | 1497.3924 | Okay, say you got out fifteen minutes early, what time would you get out? | 1500.6170 |
1148 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1502.0116 | Quarter to three. | 1502.7315 |
1149 | DTA_int_09 | 1502.9914 | Mm-hm. That's what I'm after, I guess some people say quarter 'til, | 1506.1565 |
1151 | | 1506.3342 | some people say quart of, | 1507.5280 |
1153 | | 1507.6321 | some say quarter to. | 1508.6900 |
1155 | | 1510.4300 | Uh, is there a bunch of guys that you associate with in college now, and you go around with? | 1515.1283 |
1156 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1516.5157 | Well I'm in a fraternity. | 1517.7526 |
1157 | DTA_int_09 | 1518.0709 | [Uh-huh.] | 1518.3409 |
1158 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1518.1842 | [And,] uh | 1518.7719 |
1159 | | 1519.6719 | I would | 1520.1043 |
1161 | | 1521.7107 | be around with those fellas if I was around with anyone at all. | 1524.7627 |
1162 | DTA_int_09 | 1525.2892 | [Mm-hm.] | 1525.5923 |
1163 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1525.3596 | [But not] exclusively, | 1526.7325 |
1164 | | 1526.8842 | I mean this is, uh, | 1528.1637 |
1166 | | 1529.5259 | be the most frequent bunch of people. | 1531.3515 |
1167 | DTA_int_09 | 1531.7392 | Uh-huh. How do you get into the fraternity? | 1533.7898 |
1168 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1534.9351 | Oh you have to go through rush and | 1537.0137 |
1170 | | 1537.5647 | initiation and hell week and all | 1540.4484 |
1172 | | 1541.1432 | other sorts of things like that. | 1542.8270 |
1174 | | 1544.0667 | Mainly, uh, they're all | 1545.3757 |
1176 | | 1545.7107 | adjustment periods to living with a group and | 1548.4964 |
1178 | | 1549.0658 | this give and take factor, | 1550.4863 |
1180 | | 1550.6148 | so on, and so forth. | 1551.7831 |
1181 | DTA_int_09 | 1551.9372 | Uh-huh. | 1552.3203 |
1183 | | 1552.7513 | Do they have to ask you to join the fraternity or do you ask them or what? | 1556.0667 |
1184 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1556.6728 | Well at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 1557.6893 |
1186 | | 1558.3168 | uh, the freshmen men that want to | 1560.4505 |
1188 | | 1561.1025 | be considered, | 1562.1187 |
1190 | | 1562.5320 | have to sign bid cards. | 1564.2488 |
1191 | DTA_int_09 | 1564.6106 | [Mm-hm.] | 1564.9705 |
1192 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1564.6994 | [And] | 1565.1710 |
1193 | | 1566.2730 | then the fraternities will- all the fraternities get these cards and if they feel that they want you, they'll | 1572.2461 |
1195 | | 1572.9739 | send you a- | 1573.8258 |
1197 | | 1574.7526 | an invitation to a smoke or a something | 1576.9932 |
1198 | DTA_int_09 | 1576.9932 | Mm-hm. | 1577.3198 |
1199 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1577.3789 | where they'll tell you more about the organization. | 1579.4729 |
1201 | | 1580.0728 | But | 1580.4340 |
1203 | | 1580.6883 | t- uh, | 1581.0495 |
1205 | | 1581.1628 | it's- | 1581.6892 |
1207 | | 1582.1576 | it's just, uh, a front really, because | 1584.7321 |
1209 | | 1585.2280 | all the fraternities will send you something | 1587.4768 |
1211 | | 1587.6862 | anyway | 1588.3443 |
1213 | | 1588.5188 | just so they can look you over. | 1589.8903 |
1214 | DTA_int_09 | 1590.1383 | Mm-hm. | 1590.5620 |
1215 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1590.6709 | And after this, there are very few people who just get excluded. | 1594.9902 |
1217 | | 1595.7097 | And | 1596.1566 |
1219 | | 1596.4382 | you find that | 1597.0964 |
1221 | | 1597.5218 | it's up to the person themself if they go to the | 1600.1698 |
1223 | | 1600.2647 | smoke or to the house or whatever. | 1602.2362 |
1225 | | 1602.6586 | And they find that they like the group of guys there, | 1605.0720 |
1227 | | 1605.5760 | usually the guys will like them too and | 1607.6332 |
1229 | | 1607.7342 | there's no problem. | 1608.6647 |
1230 | DTA_int_09 | 1609.5861 | Mm-hm. | 1609.9687 |
1232 | | 1611.3648 | How about, uh, | 1612.2647 |
1234 | | 1612.4606 | people you associate with. Do they speak any other languages? | 1615.4331 |
1236 | | 1615.7364 | Like Spanish or anything? | 1617.1111 |
1237 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1620.7198 | Well are you- are you talking about i- | 1622.5689 |
1239 | | 1622.6760 | uh, the- uh, native languages | 1624.2710 |
1241 | | 1624.4514 | or do they- [have they acquired] these in school? | 1627.0933 |
1242 | DTA_int_09 | 1625.4764 | [/Uh, both/.] | 1625.9988 |
1243 | | 1627.1392 | Both. | 1627.4147 |
1244 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1627.4943 | Both? | 1627.8673 |
1246 | | 1628.6332 | Well quite a few of them have taken French, German, Spanish, Latin. | 1632.4964 |
1248 | | 1632.7443 | [Something like this.] | 1633.6035 |
1249 | DTA_int_09 | 1632.9861 | [Mm-hm.] | 1633.4422 |
1250 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1634.1340 | Nobody that- that has a | 1635.9464 |
1252 | | 1637.1279 | s- | 1637.2901 |
1254 | | 1637.4983 | any foreign language at home. In their | 1639.6185 |
1256 | | 1640.5473 | home background. Which is- which is spoken in the home, that's what I'm trying [to say.] | 1644.1995 |
1257 | DTA_int_09 | 1643.8015 | [Uh-huh.] | 1644.1600 |
1258 | | 1646.2167 | How about, uh, | 1647.0954 |
1260 | | 1647.4137 | are there any white fellas in this group? | 1649.1310 |
1261 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1650.4137 | <ts> | 1650.6066 |
1263 | | 1650.8515 | Well there was one, | 1652.0212 |
1265 | | 1652.6944 | uh, first year of college. | 1654.2555 |
1266 | DTA_int_09 | 1654.3841 | Uh-huh. | 1654.7411 |
1267 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1654.9014 | But he- | 1655.4707 |
1269 | | 1656.9800 | well he was | 1657.6840 |
1271 | | 1657.8738 | accident prone. | 1659.0280 |
1273 | | 1659.2239 | And he was- he a- he left school | 1661.4707 |
1274 | DTA_int_09 | 1661.9117 | [Mm-hm.] | 1662.3494 |
1275 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1662.2821 | [about] mid way through second semester. | 1664.2094 |
1276 | DTA_int_09 | 1665.8025 | Which do you prefer to be called, Negro or colored? Is there any preferences to use. | 1669.9858 |
1277 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1673.8995 | <ts> It all depends on the tone of voice. | 1675.8238 |
1278 | DTA_int_09 | 1676.1187 | Uh-huh. | 1676.4815 |
1279 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1677.1321 | [/Although/] t- they're both equally | 1678.9565 |
1280 | DTA_int_09 | 1677.1321 | [/Uh/.] | 1677.4209 |
1281 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1679.3605 | acceptable as long as they're- | 1681.0657 |
1283 | | 1681.1943 | they're said | 1681.9534 |
1285 | | 1682.4432 | to m- mean just, uh, | 1683.7412 |
1287 | | 1684.4973 | spoken to mean just what they say. | 1686.0284 |
1288 | DTA_int_09 | 1686.2576 | Mm-hm. | 1686.5821 |
1290 | | 1686.8698 | I know some people prefer Negro, others | 1689.1841 |
1292 | | 1689.7076 | who likes colored. | 1690.5728 |
1294 | | 1691.8780 | Uh, | 1692.2484 |
1296 | | 1693.3688 | good. Uh, how about in the group of guys that you associate with, is there any one fella who seems to be the leader? | 1698.9647 |
1298 | | 1699.9963 | That, uh, | 1700.4868 |
1300 | | 1700.7219 | the other guys listen to? | 1701.9773 |
1301 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1706.1279 | Mm, <ts> well as far as the fraternity is concerned, you- I'd say no. | 1709.9209 |
1303 | | 1710.4474 | We have a pretty democratic group | 1712.2564 |
1304 | DTA_int_09 | 1712.4095 | Uh-huh. | 1712.7311 |
1305 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1712.7311 | up there anyway, and everybody's word- | 1714.9791 |
1306 | | 1715.9209 | well not everybody, but, uh, the majority of people | 1719.0617 |
1308 | | 1719.4351 | are listened to | 1720.4495 |
1310 | | 1720.7177 | just as well as the fella sitting next to him. | 1722.7104 |
1311 | DTA_int_09 | 1722.8851 | Mm-hm. | 1723.3074 |
1313 | | 1724.1340 | How about in your- | 1725.0700 |
1315 | | 1725.3617 | say your, uh, | 1726.1514 |
1317 | | 1726.2983 | association of close friends. In your- | 1728.3770 |
1318 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1730.4406 | Well | 1730.8995 |
1320 | | 1731.7780 | two or three years ago perhaps. | 1733.7770 |
1322 | | 1734.7014 | There were a couple of fellas who | 1736.4278 |
1324 | | 1737.3770 | might've had a certain amount of charisma, but | 1739.6238 |
1326 | | 1740.1651 | now | 1740.6599 |
1328 | | 1741.4973 | everyone's either in the service or | 1743.5270 |
1330 | | 1743.9348 | at some other school and, uh, | 1745.7893 |
1331 | DTA_int_09 | 1746.3800 | Mm-hm. | 1746.7240 |
1332 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1747.1453 | there's not as much cohesion as there was. People have learned to rely on | 1751.1738 |
1334 | | 1751.3421 | what they think rather than what | 1752.9494 |
1336 | | 1753.7789 | the so-called leader would think, [so,] uh. | 1756.1853 |
1337 | DTA_int_09 | 1755.6764 | [Yeah.] | 1755.9173 |
1338 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1757.1646 | I would say no. | 1757.9628 |
1339 | DTA_int_09 | 1758.9035 | Uh, | 1759.3940 |
1341 | | 1760.0483 | what would you like to do when you finish your study- | 1762.2861 |
1343 | | 1763.0393 | say, finish college? | 1764.2641 |
1344 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1765.9809 | I haven't decided what I'd like to do with it | 1768.1055 |
1346 | | 1768.4667 | yet. | 1768.9075 |
1348 | | 1769.0391 | Uh, | 1769.4982 |
1350 | | 1770.6678 | opportunities are opening up. | 1772.3238 |
1352 | | 1772.5564 | I probably won't decide until I'm really out there. | 1775.0544 |
1353 | DTA_int_09 | 1775.2136 | Uh-huh. What are some of the possibilities that you can think of? | 1778.0115 |
1354 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1778.3360 | Oh teaching, social work, | 1779.9769 |
1356 | | 1780.2953 | or | 1780.7238 |
1358 | | 1781.3727 | some sort of clinical sociologist. | 1783.7758 |
1359 | DTA_int_09 | 1784.1217 | Mm-hm. | 1784.5166 |
1361 | | 1785.0464 | Would you have to go into, uh, | 1786.3228 |
1363 | | 1786.5952 | graduate school for this? | 1787.8994 |
1364 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1787.9423 | Yeah, | 1788.2790 |
1366 | | 1788.5392 | for- | 1788.9371 |
1368 | | 1789.6075 | for clinical sociology I would. Uh, for social work, no. | 1793.2545 |
1369 | DTA_int_09 | 1793.6056 | Mm-hm. | 1793.9945 |
1371 | | 1795.4575 | Good. | 1795.7207 |
1373 | | 1796.6331 | Uh, say if you had all the money in the world. That is, | 1799.2962 |
1375 | | 1799.4248 | enough money to do what you wanted to do. | 1801.9615 |
1377 | | 1802.0544 | /??/ | 1802.5015 |
1379 | | 1802.9184 | That money would be no hindrance, what would you like to do? | 1805.3574 |
1380 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1809.6341 | <ts> | 1809.7749 |
1382 | | 1811.4186 | I don't know. I | 1812.4688 |
1384 | | 1813.1636 | haven't thought about that, really. | 1815.0111 |
1385 | DTA_int_09 | 1815.4780 | Kind of a remote possibility, yeah? | 1817.4248 |
1386 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1818.3096 | I'd probably, uh, | 1819.4177 |
1388 | | 1820.2166 | well first thing I'd do would be | 1821.6035 |
1390 | | 1822.2340 | to give my parents | 1823.4217 |
1392 | | 1823.5319 | enough so they wouldn't have to worry about [anything.] | 1825.8677 |
1393 | DTA_int_09 | 1825.4667 | [Mm-hm.] | 1825.8324 |
1394 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1826.5901 | Then I'd probably get married. | 1828.1300 |
1395 | DTA_int_09 | 1828.8370 | Get married? Huh. | 1829.6668 |
1397 | | 1830.8238 | Do [you have] prospects now? | 1832.1546 |
1398 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1831.0247 | [But-] | 1831.2613 |
1399 | | 1833.2576 | Yeah. | 1833.6647 |
1400 | DTA_int_09 | 1834.9503 | Pretty serious? | 1835.6882 |
1401 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1836.7596 | I like to think so. | 1837.8983 |
1402 | DTA_int_09 | 1838.1095 | <laugh> | 1838.6574 |
1404 | | 1838.8535 | Good. | 1839.1815 |
1406 | | 1840.2401 | You're like twenty years old now are you? | 1841.8872 |
1407 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1842.2147 | Twenty, [yes.] | 1842.9737 |
1408 | DTA_int_09 | 1842.6922 | [Ah, you're] young /?/. | 1843.7400 |
1409 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1845.8575 | Yeah, but it only last for a minute. | 1847.7402 |
1411 | | 1847.8321 | I- | 1848.1290 |
1413 | | 1849.2310 | sometimes I think I'm still eighteen or | 1851.3861 |
1415 | | 1851.8453 | seventeen or something like that. Doesn't seem like it was that long ago. | 1855.4177 |
1416 | DTA_int_09 | 1855.8493 | Yeah, I know. I'm twenty-five, sometimes it seems like I'm [sixteen.] | 1859.3018 |
1417 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1858.9197 | [<laugh>] | 1859.3986 |
1418 | DTA_int_09 | 1859.5780 | [<laugh>] | 1860.0830 |
1420 | | 1861.3381 | Uh, describe what you are doing for the summer no that school's out. | 1864.6958 |
1421 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1865.3727 | I's working down at /RD-WORK-7/ now. | 1867.8891 |
1422 | DTA_int_09 | 1868.0635 | Uh-huh. Describe what you do in a- | 1869.7289 |
1424 | | 1869.9728 | in a full day's work. | 1871.0880 |
1425 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1872.2514 | Well it's a, | 1873.1483 |
1427 | | 1874.1248 | <ts> file clerking job. | 1875.7014 |
1429 | | 1875.8208 | What we're doing now is | 1877.0727 |
1431 | | 1878.0218 | we're refiling | 1879.4820 |
1433 | | 1880.2809 | the folders with the records of the men that | 1882.7683 |
1435 | | 1883.2371 | have been discharged from the service. And, oh I couldn't say how many years | 1887.3209 |
1437 | | 1887.5124 | past, but | 1888.1684 |
1439 | | 1889.2625 | what we have to do is break them down into, | 1891.5493 |
1441 | | 1894.2646 | oh, | 1894.8768 |
1443 | | 1896.5698 | a hundred- say, | 1897.6408 |
1445 | | 1898.4462 | from unit of a thousand, we have to make ten hundreds and files them according to [this,] | 1903.3595 |
1446 | DTA_int_09 | 1903.2003 | [Mm-hm.] | 1903.5615 |
1447 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1903.7329 | instead of the old method. | 1905.0660 |
1449 | | 1905.8453 | And, uh, | 1906.6130 |
1451 | | 1907.6023 | it requires taking all the folders out of the file cabinets | 1911.2884 |
1453 | | 1912.4391 | then refiling them according to digits of | 1914.9952 |
1455 | | 1915.1054 | O-O | 1915.8921 |
1457 | | 1916.4462 | to O-nine. | 1917.6507 |
1459 | | 1918.0565 | And so on, up to ninety-nine- ninety to ninety-nine. | 1920.9769 |
1461 | | 1921.5462 | And then refiling them. | 1922.6115 |
1463 | | 1923.3341 | And then sequence checking to make sure that | 1925.4798 |
1465 | | 1925.6882 | everything is in the right place. | 1927.3962 |
1467 | | 1927.7972 | And then labeling. | 1928.6825 |
1468 | DTA_int_09 | 1929.1688 | Mm-hm. | 1929.5606 |
1470 | | 1930.0932 | Is it boring? | 1930.6258 |
1471 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1931.1982 | Quite. | 1931.5533 |
1472 | DTA_int_09 | 1931.9116 | [<laugh>] I could imagine. (laughing) | 1933.5583 |
1474 | | 1935.2269 | Uh, what do they call this part of town here? This particular neighborhood? | 1938.7796 |
1476 | | 1939.8431 | Mm-hm. | 1940.2196 |
1477 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1940.3666 | Just the West Side. | 1941.4013 |
1478 | DTA_int_09 | 1941.6065 | Uh-huh. | 1941.9620 |
1480 | | 1942.9044 | And then what are the boundaries for the West Side? | 1944.9646 |
1481 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1947.5606 | Well it- | 1948.2095 |
1483 | | 1949.8871 | <ts> | 1950.0647 |
1485 | | 1950.6738 | I'd say Woodward Avenue, | 1952.4951 |
1487 | | 1954.4421 | after you cross Wood- or | 1956.0095 |
1489 | | 1956.3861 | before you cross Woodward. | 1957.8033 |
1491 | | 1960.0687 | And, uh, | 1961.3329 |
1493 | | 1964.8443 | hm. | 1965.2085 |
1495 | | 1966.4360 | I guess before you cross Puritan. | 1968.8299 |
1496 | DTA_int_09 | 1969.8646 | Mm-hm. | 1970.3176 |
1497 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1972.9931 | It's hard to say, boundaries in Detroit fluctuate so much, [see.] | 1976.5043 |
1498 | DTA_int_09 | 1976.1064 | [Mm-hm.] | 1976.5043 |
1499 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1977.1657 | Two sections of town, they call it East Side | 1979.5457 |
1501 | | 1979.8596 | that | 1980.1381 |
1503 | | 1980.2545 | really | 1980.8605 |
1505 | | 1981.6258 | aren't parallel to each other or anything else. | 1983.5881 |
1506 | DTA_int_09 | 1983.7442 | Mm-hm. | 1984.1330 |
1508 | | 1985.0298 | Uh, what are some of the streets of Detroit? Some of the big ones. Any that you can think of? | 1989.3009 |
1509 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1990.2768 | Uh, Woodward, Michigan Avenue, | 1991.9759 |
1510 | DTA_int_09 | 1992.1045 | [Mm-hm.] | 1992.4259 |
1511 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 1992.3371 | [Grand] River, | 1993.0779 |
1512 | | 1994.6576 | [uh,] | 1995.0751 |
1513 | DTA_int_09 | 1994.7984 | [How about] the one that goes to East Detroit? | 1996.6901 |
1514 | | 1996.8615 | What's that? | 1997.3230 |
1516 | | 1998.1657 | Begins with G-R. | 1999.2263 |
1518 | | 2000.7341 | [Gra-] | 2000.9939 |
1519 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2000.8932 | [Gratiot.] | 2001.3896 |
1520 | DTA_int_09 | 2001.7595 | Uh-huh. | 2002.1281 |
1522 | | 2002.6472 | And, uh, how about the one that goes by the University of Detroit? | 2005.5912 |
1523 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2006.2870 | It's Livernois. | 2007.1412 |
1524 | DTA_int_09 | 2007.4779 | Uh-huh. | 2007.8881 |
1526 | | 2009.1064 | Uh, | 2009.3951 |
1528 | | 2009.7126 | any down by, uh, Cobo Hall you can think of? | 2012.3906 |
1529 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2013.5299 | Larned, Jefferson, | 2014.8462 |
1531 | | 2016.8085 | s- uh, | 2018.1951 |
1533 | | 2018.6882 | <ts> | 2018.8626 |
1535 | | 2019.5299 | Washington Boulevard leads up there. | 2021.5123 |
1536 | DTA_int_09 | 2021.5290 | Uh-huh. | 2021.8902 |
1538 | | 2022.4748 | How about these, uh, big streets that- | 2024.3818 |
1540 | | 2025.1657 | well, they're about three or four lanes and you can go fifty-five, sixty, no traffic lights [and.] | 2030.3367 |
1541 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2029.9043 | [Expressways.] | 2030.8443 |
1542 | DTA_int_09 | 2030.8259 | [Anything] else you can call them? | 2032.0667 |
1543 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2032.7788 | Throughways, freeways. | 2034.5218 |
1544 | DTA_int_09 | 2034.7381 | Mm-hm. | 2035.0748 |
1546 | | 2035.7482 | And, uh, what are some of the expressways you can think of? | 2037.9462 |
1547 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2038.4054 | S- there's the John Lodge, | 2040.6064 |
1549 | | 2041.0105 | Edsel Ford, | 2042.0023 |
1551 | | 2042.9636 | and Southfield Expressway. | 2044.9359 |
1552 | DTA_int_09 | 2046.7411 | Mm-hm. | 2047.0967 |
1553 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2047.4421 | And s- Davidson Expressway. | 2049.3401 |
1554 | DTA_int_09 | 2050.6074 | Good. | 2050.8186 |
1556 | | 2051.6053 | Where were you born? | 2052.3251 |
1557 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2052.9947 | Here in Detroit. | 2053.6992 |
1558 | DTA_int_09 | 2053.8951 | In Detroit. Where else have you lived in Detroit? Any place else? | 2056.7145 |
1559 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2057.7738 | Uh, we used to live on the East Side. | 2059.5431 |
1560 | DTA_int_09 | 2060.6790 | Uh, don't you live on the East Side now? (laughing) | 2062.6918 |
1561 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2062.8094 | No this is the West Side. | 2063.9574 |
1562 | DTA_int_09 | 2064.0983 | Oh, I see. | 2064.8360 |
1564 | | 2064.9738 | Okay. | 2065.4411 |
1566 | | 2066.4155 | Uh, | 2066.7647 |
1568 | | 2067.3156 | have you lived any place outside of Detroit? | 2069.2473 |
1569 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2069.5994 | No I haven't. | 2070.3511 |
1570 | DTA_int_09 | 2070.6952 | How about trips? Where have you gone on trips? | 2072.6152 |
1571 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2073.4871 | Well we've been to Buffalo, Rochester, New York, <sigh> Cleveland. | 2077.8033 |
1573 | | 2082.3799 | And, uh, | 2083.3166 |
1575 | | 2083.7727 | by myself, I've been | 2085.4317 |
1577 | | 2085.5391 | to | 2085.9064 |
1579 | | 2086.8615 | college campuses, if you could call those trips. | 2089.7053 |
1580 | DTA_int_09 | 2089.7038 | [Uh-huh.] | 2090.0665 |
1581 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2089.9410 | [I've] been every | 2090.7983 |
1582 | | 2090.9177 | major college in Michigan. | 2092.4635 |
1584 | | 2092.8523 | [Except] Northern [Michigan.] | 2094.2896 |
1585 | DTA_int_09 | 2092.9808 | [Mm-hm.] | 2093.2566 |
1587 | | 2094.1442 | [Which] college do you like the best? | 2095.9104 |
1588 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2096.9299 | I prefer Michigan State | 2098.3135 |
1590 | | 2098.6104 | to all of 'em. | 2099.3359 |
1591 | DTA_int_09 | 2099.4647 | Is that right. | 2100.0861 |
1592 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2100.4932 | Yeah, as far as- as visiting. I don't | 2103.1656 |
1594 | | 2103.7197 | really think that I'd enjoy going there. | 2105.8458 |
1595 | DTA_int_09 | 2106.0554 | Uh-huh. | 2106.4411 |
1596 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2106.5513 | To be going, | 2107.6137 |
1598 | | 2109.1932 | uh, | 2109.7074 |
1600 | | 2112.5054 | <ts> | 2112.5758 |
1602 | | 2112.6799 | I don't know. | 2113.2339 |
1604 | | 2114.7096 | Wayne maybe, or- | 2115.7350 |
1606 | | 2115.8452 | no not Wayne. | 2116.7638 |
1608 | | 2116.9165 | I didn't mean to say that. | 2118.1066 |
1610 | | 2118.6554 | Michigan | 2119.2829 |
1612 | | 2119.8523 | probably | 2120.4736 |
1614 | | 2120.9076 | [I'd enjoy] more. | 2121.8452 |
1615 | DTA_int_09 | 2120.9076 | [Hm.] | 2121.2428 |
1616 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2123.0941 | And [/?/.] | 2123.7800 |
1617 | DTA_int_09 | 2123.3177 | [Is, uh,] | 2123.9331 |
1618 | | 2124.5544 | Wayne a pretty good school when you stay here? | 2126.5473 |
1619 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2127.8176 | Yeah, it's a good school. | 2128.8088 |
1620 | DTA_int_09 | 2129.8381 | Mm-hm. | 2130.1473 |
1622 | | 2131.4145 | Uh, how about | 2132.0426 |
1624 | | 2132.2379 | some of the special holidays, the special occasions around here. Any that you | 2136.0309 |
1626 | | 2136.2544 | celebrate? | 2136.9104 |
1627 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2139.6010 | Well not extensively except Christmas and- and that's just for my little brother's benefit. | 2144.6024 |
1628 | DTA_int_09 | 2144.6024 | Uh-huh. What do you do on Christmas though? | 2146.6410 |
1629 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2147.5318 | Well there's the usual routine of getting a tree | 2149.8522 |
1631 | | 2150.6942 | and setting it up and | 2152.3013 |
1633 | | 2153.7769 | waiting for Santa Claus and all that sort of thing. | 2156.3267 |
1634 | DTA_int_09 | 2156.5900 | Mm-hm. | 2156.9452 |
1636 | | 2159.0084 | And, uh, | 2159.6730 |
1638 | | 2161.5523 | how about any special foods that you cook for | 2163.7237 |
1640 | | 2163.8972 | Christmas? | 2164.4429 |
1641 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2166.9003 | <ts> Ham or turkey I guess. Uh, | 2168.6695 |
1642 | DTA_int_09 | 2168.7708 | Uh-huh. | 2169.1089 |
1643 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2169.1687 | big lavish dinner with | 2170.5492 |
1645 | | 2171.1767 | everything under the sun. | 2172.5360 |
1646 | DTA_int_09 | 2175.4044 | Good. | 2175.6293 |
1648 | | 2176.3104 | How about that holiday around, um, | 2178.2054 |
1650 | | 2179.9961 | let's see, October thirty first I guess it is. | 2182.6563 |
1651 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2184.0738 | Labor Day? | 2184.7227 |
1652 | DTA_int_09 | 2185.4727 | This is October. | 2186.4859 |
1654 | | 2187.1044 | October thirty first. | 2188.2890 |
1656 | | 2189.0081 | We have ladies who ride on brooms. | 2191.0363 |
1657 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2192.5165 | Oh, Halloween? | 2193.4656 |
1658 | DTA_int_09 | 2193.6921 | Yeah. | 2194.1173 |
1659 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2194.5369 | [<laugh>] | 2195.4736 |
1660 | DTA_int_09 | 2194.5369 | [<laugh> Well what happens] on Halloween? | 2196.3615 |
1661 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2196.8237 | <laugh> | 2197.4246 |
1663 | | 2197.7849 | Oh, | 2198.2740 |
1665 | | 2198.9177 | nothing much anymore. | 2200.3563 |
1666 | DTA_int_09 | 2200.5461 | [It's all for your little brother?] | 2202.0441 |
1667 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2200.6885 | [<laugh>] | 2201.3079 |
1669 | | 2201.6024 | [A lot of] little kids come around | 2203.6457 |
1670 | | 2204.7187 | supposedly disguised and knock on your door. And | 2207.7524 |
1672 | | 2208.4901 | you hand 'em candy or cookies or | 2210.6297 |
1674 | | 2211.1319 | [give 'em a penny.] | 2212.1144 |
1675 | DTA_int_09 | 2211.1319 | [What do they say when they knock] on the door? | 2212.6978 |
1676 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2213.1124 | Trick or treat. | 2213.8830 |
1677 | DTA_int_09 | 2214.0717 | Anything else they would say? | 2215.2186 |
1678 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2216.0634 | Some of 'em don't even say that. | 2217.4442 |
1679 | DTA_int_09 | 2217.7717 | [<laugh>] | 2218.4757 |
1680 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2217.9829 | [<laugh>] | 2218.2553 |
1681 | | 2219.7714 | They might say hello, uh, | 2221.4114 |
1683 | | 2221.8622 | you know. | 2222.2655 |
1685 | | 2222.8809 | Hi /RD-NAME-2/ or something like that if they happen to know me. | 2225.8136 |
1686 | DTA_int_09 | 2226.6952 | Mm-hm. | 2227.0841 |
1688 | | 2227.3319 | How about those things you carve out? | 2229.0799 |
1690 | | 2229.1840 | Carve faces in 'em, put candles in 'em. What do you call that? | 2232.0023 |
1691 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2233.7298 | Pumpkins. | 2234.5318 |
1692 | DTA_int_09 | 2234.6726 | Mm-hm. Anything else you can call them? | 2236.0521 |
1693 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2237.0267 | You can call them jack-o-lanterns, but nobody around here does. | 2240.0542 |
1694 | DTA_int_09 | 2240.2961 | Mm-hm. | 2240.7218 |
1696 | | 2241.5880 | How about the ladies that ride on the brooms? | 2243.7902 |
1697 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2244.6033 | Witches. | 2245.3778 |
1698 | DTA_int_09 | 2245.5890 | Uh-huh. | 2245.9039 |
1700 | | 2246.0236 | Can you tell me about your little brother's costume last year? | 2248.6777 |
1702 | | 2248.8400 | Uh, didn't he even have a costume last year? | 2251.1298 |
1703 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2252.0879 | I don't even think he had- | 2253.0432 |
1705 | | 2253.4411 | yeah, he must've had one but I can't- I can't | 2255.8531 |
1707 | | 2256.0493 | even remember what it was. | 2257.6288 |
1708 | DTA_int_09 | 2257.7696 | How about the night before Halloween, any special name you call that? | 2261.1614 |
1710 | | 2261.9085 | Like when you ring doorbells, turn over | 2263.8645 |
1712 | | 2264.1155 | garbage cans. | 2265.0125 |
1713 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2265.1074 | What is that, All Saints' Night? | 2266.5216 |
1714 | DTA_int_09 | 2267.2195 | Uh-huh. | 2267.5548 |
1716 | | 2267.8197 | [I- uh,] is that Halloween, or? | 2269.1574 |
1717 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2267.8840 | [/?/] | 2268.1960 |
1718 | DTA_int_09 | 2269.5828 | This is kind of when they do mischief and stuff. | 2271.7655 |
1719 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2271.7747 | I guess that's the night. | 2272.8706 |
1720 | DTA_int_09 | 2273.3083 | Uh-huh. | 2273.6769 |
1722 | | 2276.3236 | Uh, | 2276.7309 |
1724 | | 2277.6860 | how about the kids in the neighborhoods, do they ever have fights? | 2280.4594 |
1726 | | 2281.5675 | What kinds of things would fights start about? | 2283.5586 |
1727 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2285.9452 | Well | 2286.3952 |
1729 | | 2286.9461 | right now around here, fights will start about anything. | 2289.9339 |
1730 | DTA_int_09 | 2290.2009 | Mm-hm. | 2290.5492 |
1731 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2291.1124 | Any little provocation could lead to a- | 2293.6477 |
1733 | | 2294.2348 | a full-blown fight | 2295.6440 |
1735 | | 2296.3961 | in a matter of minutes, so there's nothing specific that I could | 2300.0236 |
1737 | | 2300.6419 | tell you a fight would start about. | 2302.4589 |
1738 | DTA_int_09 | 2302.7389 | Uh-huh. Are there any rules for a fair fight? | 2304.8824 |
1739 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2305.2828 | No. | 2305.6716 |
1740 | DTA_int_09 | 2306.5440 | Hm, anything goes. | 2307.6492 |
1741 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2307.6645 | Just win. | 2308.3698 |
1742 | DTA_int_09 | 2308.8185 | <laugh> | 2309.2134 |
1744 | | 2310.0003 | Uh, how about if you're in a fight and you don't wanna fight | 2312.4064 |
1746 | | 2312.5289 | anymore, like you're losing. Is there anything you can say, like you could say, I wa- I don't wanna fight anymore? | 2316.9890 |
1747 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2318.3419 | Uh, | 2318.9021 |
1749 | | 2320.3196 | maybe if it's just a | 2321.9740 |
1751 | | 2323.4910 | one on one fight. | 2324.6725 |
1753 | | 2325.3064 | You might be able- if you're losing, to- | 2327.5411 |
1755 | | 2327.7891 | losing badly, I might add, | 2329.4542 |
1756 | DTA_int_09 | 2329.7910 | [Mm-hm.] | 2330.0507 |
1757 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2329.9807 | [to] say that you don't wanna fight anymore and- | 2332.2308 |
1758 | | 2332.4573 | and, uh, | 2333.0879 |
1760 | | 2333.2195 | be able to walk away. | 2334.4380 |
1762 | | 2335.1145 | But usually the | 2336.3542 |
1764 | | 2336.5256 | odds are | 2337.3094 |
1766 | | 2337.6614 | against you when you're losing | 2339.5195 |
1768 | | 2339.8197 | or | 2340.1717 |
1770 | | 2340.2727 | the odds are stacked one way or the other. | 2341.9286 |
1771 | DTA_int_09 | 2342.3144 | Uh-huh. | 2342.6695 |
1772 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2342.8380 | Usually anyway, so there's no way you can really beg out of a fight around here anymore. | 2347.5246 |
1774 | | 2348.1981 | You just fight until | 2349.3951 |
1776 | | 2350.6563 | worst comes to worst or you can get away. | 2353.1849 |
1777 | DTA_int_09 | 2354.0083 | How about, | 2354.4233 |
1779 | | 2354.6666 | uh, | 2354.9758 |
1781 | | 2355.4900 | fights ever started with the dozens. Have you ever heard of that? | 2357.9941 |
1783 | | 2358.1288 | The dozens? | 2358.7746 |
1784 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2358.8665 | No. | 2359.1879 |
1785 | DTA_int_09 | 2360.8839 | Uh, | 2361.5267 |
1787 | | 2362.8154 | how about | 2363.2697 |
1789 | | 2363.6421 | there's nothing you can say if you were just wrestling, | 2365.6501 |
1791 | | 2365.7971 | say in fun | 2366.6788 |
1793 | | 2366.9390 | or in jest? | 2367.7135 |
1795 | | 2368.2374 | And you didn't wanna fight anymore. | 2369.6176 |
1797 | | 2370.7992 | Okay, now do you still wanna fight? Do you? | 2372.8778 |
1798 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2374.6930 | Well if you're- | 2375.3511 |
1800 | | 2375.5286 | no. | 2376.0737 |
1802 | | 2376.3400 | You can say I quit. | 2377.2906 |
1803 | DTA_int_09 | 2377.4971 | Uh-huh. | 2377.8124 |
1804 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2378.2809 | But, uh, | 2378.9035 |
1806 | | 2379.4992 | we didn't use that | 2380.3838 |
1808 | | 2380.8124 | for instance, uh, | 2381.9574 |
1810 | | 2382.3278 | holler uncle. | 2383.1849 |
1812 | | 2383.3104 | We never used [that either.] | 2384.6711 |
1813 | DTA_int_09 | 2384.1799 | [Uh-huh.] | 2384.6022 |
1814 | | 2384.9084 | How about, I give? | 2385.7135 |
1815 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2386.5920 | Yeah. | 2386.9930 |
1817 | | 2387.4062 | I had forgotten about that, [I give.] | 2389.2308 |
1818 | DTA_int_09 | 2388.6042 | [Mm-hm.] | 2388.9438 |
1819 | | 2389.3348 | <laugh> | 2390.1338 |
1821 | | 2390.4738 | Okay, good. | 2391.1962 |
1823 | | 2391.7777 | Did you ever see anybody get beat up real badly? | 2394.1013 |
1824 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2395.4512 | Yes I have. | 2396.3603 |
1825 | DTA_int_09 | 2396.8839 | What happened to 'em? | 2397.8161 |
1826 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2398.7940 | Well it's whatever the fight started about, the- | 2401.9103 |
1828 | | 2403.0094 | the person- the people involved were- | 2405.2317 |
1830 | | 2405.5409 | had gotten to the point where they were | 2407.2461 |
1832 | | 2408.1276 | just fighting, I mean, there wasn't any reason behind it anymore. | 2411.4950 |
1833 | DTA_int_09 | 2411.8380 | Mm-hm. | 2412.2084 |
1834 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2412.2972 | And, uh, | 2412.9032 |
1836 | | 2413.9899 | the loser was just | 2415.3737 |
1838 | | 2415.6277 | taking a beating, getting kicked, and s- sliced, and | 2419.0563 |
1840 | | 2421.5941 | beaten, so on and so forth. | 2423.2761 |
1841 | DTA_int_09 | 2423.6941 | Uh-huh. | 2424.0064 |
1843 | | 2424.1104 | Good. | 2424.3818 |
1845 | | 2425.3593 | Uh, | 2425.7664 |
1847 | | 2426.1338 | did you ever get into a fight with a guy bigger than you? You're pretty big yourself. | 2429.6388 |
1848 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2430.5941 | Well I- | 2431.1665 |
1850 | | 2432.2746 | yeah, I've been in a couple of fights. | 2433.9812 |
1851 | DTA_int_09 | 2434.1603 | What happened? | 2435.0572 |
1852 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2436.1900 | Well nothing really, | 2437.2369 |
1854 | | 2437.4940 | uh, | 2437.9011 |
1856 | | 2438.8502 | the only | 2439.4288 |
1858 | | 2439.5328 | time that I can think of right now that- | 2441.4245 |
1860 | | 2441.6174 | that I actually fought in a situation like that | 2444.0497 |
1862 | | 2444.6419 | was when a fella tried to take my hat | 2446.6098 |
1864 | | 2446.9225 | in grade school. He | 2448.0553 |
1865 | DTA_int_09 | 2448.4012 | Mm-hm. | 2448.7655 |
1866 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2448.8175 | grabbed my hat and wasn't gonna give it back. | 2450.7094 |
1868 | | 2450.9097 | And we had a fight | 2451.9308 |
1870 | | 2453.0266 | that I guess you could call a draw, | 2455.0532 |
1872 | | 2455.6134 | because I was | 2456.6021 |
1874 | | 2457.0859 | trying to stay away from him more than I was trying to fight him. | 2460.2003 |
1876 | | 2461.0012 | But I wasn't running and- and at- | 2462.9972 |
1878 | | 2463.3308 | at this time I guess | 2464.8827 |
1880 | | 2465.4674 | it had made him and his friends see that I wasn't afraid, but I just really didn't wanna fight, so I never had any more trouble out of him. | 2471.8533 |
1881 | DTA_int_09 | 2471.9512 | Mm-hm. | 2472.3461 |
1883 | | 2473.3379 | Uh, do the guys around here ever fight | 2475.1992 |
1885 | | 2475.7991 | uh, | 2476.1267 |
1887 | | 2476.2767 | in gangs or usually one against one? | 2478.5175 |
1888 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2478.9889 | Most of the time it's gangs. | 2480.4888 |
1889 | DTA_int_09 | 2480.8625 | Uh-huh. | 2481.2267 |
1891 | | 2481.4288 | Any rules for a gang fights? | 2483.0193 |
1892 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2483.3572 | Nah. | 2483.7859 |
1893 | DTA_int_09 | 2484.6032 | Uh-huh. | 2484.9950 |
1895 | | 2485.2705 | Any names of gangs around here? | 2487.2206 |
1896 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2488.3960 | Uh, no not- | 2489.5500 |
1898 | | 2489.8625 | not names that they give themselves, uh, | 2492.7431 |
1900 | | 2493.9950 | they have names as to the location. | 2496.0021 |
1901 | DTA_int_09 | 2496.3400 | Uh-huh. | 2496.6970 |
1903 | | 2498.5502 | How big are these gangs? | 2499.7493 |
1904 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2500.4174 | <ts> | 2500.6287 |
1906 | | 2501.9237 | Oh anywhere from ten to f- | 2503.5123 |
1908 | | 2503.8552 | seventy, I guess. | 2505.1453 |
1909 | DTA_int_09 | 2505.4379 | Mm-hm. | 2505.8359 |
1911 | | 2506.8735 | Have you ever been in the hospital? | 2508.1532 |
1912 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2509.0042 | No I haven't. | 2509.5399 |
1913 | DTA_int_09 | 2510.3908 | Uh, what's the worst illness you ever had? | 2512.4284 |
1914 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2514.5451 | Three day flu. | 2515.3226 |
1915 | DTA_int_09 | 2516.9175 | <laugh> It sound like you got off pretty lucky. | 2519.5347 |
1917 | | 2520.0706 | What's a three day flu like? | 2521.5062 |
1918 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2523.1594 | Well I | 2523.9460 |
1920 | | 2525.3113 | can't- | 2525.6298 |
1922 | | 2525.7614 | it's uh, you're dizzy | 2527.2124 |
1924 | | 2527.3409 | you're stomach hurts, and y- you don't wanna get up and you can't move. | 2531.6480 |
1926 | | 2532.2451 | Your eyes hurt. | 2533.0839 |
1928 | | 2534.2562 | And you're just in general bad shape. | 2536.1079 |
1930 | | 2537.3266 | Feel terrible. | 2538.3124 |
1932 | | 2538.5634 | Head is stopped up. | 2539.5399 |
1933 | DTA_int_09 | 2539.8399 | Uh-huh. | 2540.1551 |
1935 | | 2541.6522 | Uh, when a person starts to sneeze or cough you might say, uh, get away from me I don't wanna | 2546.0419 |
1937 | | 2546.2531 | what | 2546.6329 |
1939 | | 2546.7829 | a cold? | 2547.0706 |
1940 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2548.5613 | Catch a cold. | 2549.2745 |
1941 | DTA_int_09 | 2549.4429 | Uh-huh. | 2549.7278 |
1943 | | 2549.8777 | Good. | 2550.1226 |
1945 | | 2550.7716 | Have you ever been in an automobile accident? | 2552.6696 |
1946 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2554.7756 | Yes, once. | 2556.0643 |
1948 | | 2556.2144 | Or, | 2556.6426 |
1949 | DTA_int_09 | 2556.7960 | What [happened?] | 2557.2842 |
1950 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2557.1297 | [yeah once.] | 2557.8031 |
1951 | DTA_int_09 | 2557.6439 | [Really?] | 2557.9415 |
1952 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2559.3828 | Well we were coming back from skating one night, | 2561.6788 |
1953 | DTA_int_09 | 2562.2451 | Mm-hm. | 2562.6552 |
1954 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2562.8083 | in Belleville is about thirty miles from Detroit. | 2565.5634 |
1956 | | 2566.1848 | And, uh, | 2567.0235 |
1958 | | 2567.1980 | the fellow behind us- the people behind us, | 2569.3531 |
1960 | | 2570.5041 | either had some | 2571.6027 |
1962 | | 2573.4429 | uh, complaint or | 2574.6858 |
1964 | | 2574.9981 | they were mad about something or had been drinking or something, but | 2578.2964 |
1966 | | 2579.0143 | they were driving pretty recklessly. | 2581.0127 |
1968 | | 2581.3164 | And there's a- | 2582.1191 |
1970 | | 2582.4918 | a ninety degree | 2583.5450 |
1972 | | 2583.9583 | turn | 2584.4603 |
1973 | DTA_int_09 | 2584.7603 | Mm-hm. | 2585.1506 |
1974 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2585.1674 | that brings you back to | 2586.3124 |
1976 | | 2586.7226 | the road back to Detroit. | 2588.1216 |
1978 | | 2588.7583 | And as we neared the turn, | 2590.4909 |
1980 | | 2590.8153 | we were forced off by these | 2592.5144 |
1982 | | 2592.6430 | people. | 2593.0776 |
1984 | | 2593.7113 | We ran into a ditch and | 2595.3644 |
1986 | | 2595.8052 | into a corn field and | 2597.2840 |
1988 | | 2598.1348 | tore up the car. | 2599.1480 |
1990 | | 2600.2286 | A few people got bumped heads. | 2601.9368 |
1992 | | 2602.7205 | But, uh, | 2603.2959 |
1994 | | 2603.5255 | we got the car started again and got it pushed out of the ditch. | 2606.9757 |
1996 | | 2607.8511 | And tied the muffler back up and | 2609.8318 |
1997 | DTA_int_09 | 2610.0644 | [<laugh>] | 2610.2665 |
1998 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2610.3797 | tied the seat back up. | 2611.6929 |
2000 | | 2612.9114 | And came home. | 2613.7593 |
2001 | DTA_int_09 | 2614.2674 | How about the car- the other car. What happened to that? | 2616.7195 |
2002 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2616.8603 | They kept going. | 2617.6317 |
2003 | DTA_int_09 | 2618.2225 | Is that right? | 2618.6971 |
2005 | | 2619.4593 | Hm. | 2619.6583 |
2007 | | 2620.7266 | Uh, | 2621.1000 |
2009 | | 2621.8349 | were you ever in a situation where thought that you, uh, might die or be killed. | 2626.0420 |
2010 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2632.5337 | Hm, | 2633.1398 |
2012 | | 2633.9604 | <ts> | 2634.1440 |
2014 | | 2635.3011 | not really. I- I don't- | 2636.7675 |
2016 | | 2636.9848 | I can't recall the | 2638.1603 |
2018 | | 2639.9267 | sensat- the- the feeling that I was gonna die | 2642.7308 |
2020 | | 2642.8440 | present, | 2643.3491 |
2022 | | 2643.7868 | but | 2644.0072 |
2024 | | 2644.5245 | I've been in some situations that looked pretty bleak, | 2647.2827 |
2025 | DTA_int_09 | 2647.7878 | Mm-hm. | 2648.1949 |
2026 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2648.3816 | as to getting hurt | 2649.4918 |
2028 | | 2650.4909 | but not- not | 2651.3051 |
2030 | | 2651.4792 | seriously enough to die. | 2652.9215 |
2031 | DTA_int_09 | 2653.1878 | Uh-huh. | 2653.5184 |
2032 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2653.5245 | I guess it's- it's more of a- | 2655.2603 |
2034 | | 2656.0195 | a survival thing. | 2657.3357 |
2035 | DTA_int_09 | 2657.7261 | [Uh-huh.] | 2658.1195 |
2036 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2657.7614 | [You-] you don't wanna | 2658.8890 |
2037 | | 2659.3960 | think that you'll get killed | 2660.8961 |
2039 | | 2661.6463 | until it's really really bad. And I guess a lot of people won't even admit it to themselves then. | 2666.6038 |
2040 | DTA_int_09 | 2667.1960 | Mm-hm. | 2667.5634 |
2042 | | 2668.2521 | How about, uh, | 2669.1417 |
2044 | | 2669.5104 | some people there's a saying, uh, whatever is going to happen, is going to happen. Uh, | 2673.0399 |
2046 | | 2673.5817 | what do you think that? It- | 2675.0101 |
2048 | | 2675.1428 | I guess it's kind of a philosophy, I don't know. | 2677.2171 |
2049 | DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 | 2677.9898 | <ts> | 2678.0939 |
2051 | | 2678.5071 | I used to- | 2679.3215 |
2053 | | 2679.5511 | to doubt it but, uh, | 2681.0937 |
2055 | | 2682.3368 | it seems like it's- it's quite possible that it would- | 2685.0032 |
2057 | | 2685.2020 | it would be true | 2685.9778 |
2059 | | 2686.0929 | after all. | 2686.7968 |
2061 | | 2687.8379 | But I really- | 2688.6071 |
2063 | | 2689.0929 | I haven't formed a | 2690.1857 |
2065 | | 2690.7185 | opinion about it one way or the other. | 2692.5857 |
2066 | DTA_int_09 | 2693.1153 | Mm-hm. | 2693.4581 |
2068 | | 2694.4570 | Okay, good. | 2695.0111 |