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1 | DTA_int_01 | 1.1048 | Okay, the first ques- | 1.9271 |
3 | | 2.3492 | question is, uh, what kind of k- uh, games do the kids play around here in this neighborhood? | 6.3481 |
4 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 7.5422 | Oh, for the neighborhood, | 8.9655 |
6 | | 10.0161 | majority of the youngsters play | 12.0221 |
8 | | 13.4137 | almost anything, really. Some of the sidewalk games and, | 16.7161 |
10 | | 17.7132 | uh, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-1/ are interested in- mainly in b- ri- bike riding. | 22.1612 |
12 | | 22.6890 | They play things over at the school. | 24.3554 |
13 | DTA_int_01 | 24.6429 | [Mm-hm.] | 24.9947 |
14 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 24.8448 | [They're] mostly juvenile games to them. | 26.7009 |
15 | | 27.4023 | Such as little Sally Walker, and | 29.3767 |
17 | | 29.9242 | things like that the school actually has them playing. | 32.4363 |
19 | | 33.1413 | But, uh, in the home now, | 34.8292 |
21 | | 35.1963 | uh, the youngsters have their own games here at home. They play | 37.9363 |
23 | | 38.7070 | things like The Game of Life, | 40.2791 |
25 | | 40.5636 | they play, um, | 41.7468 |
27 | | 43.9883 | uh, they have a Scrabble game. They have a- oh, practically all the games that youngsters play with. | 49.1659 |
29 | | 49.3556 | Is that enough? I [mean.] | 50.7804 |
30 | DTA_int_01 | 50.6166 | [But] what was that little Sally Walker? | 52.3158 |
31 | | 52.4259 | Is it? | 52.7165 |
32 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 52.7868 | Uh, this an old-fashioned game, it's way before your time. | 55.9489 |
34 | | 56.4776 | Little /Satty-/ Sally Walker, this is the one that I hear them talk about mainly. | 60.2239 |
36 | | 60.7836 | And they go around the circle, it's sort of a circle game. It's one of those things where | 64.3158 |
38 | | 64.5850 | a group of youngsters play together. | 66.2239 |
39 | DTA_int_01 | 66.3065 | Oh, w- what- what's the, uh, | 67.6184 |
41 | | 68.0341 | i- is there some rhyme that they | 69.3310 |
43 | | 69.4532 | say with it? | 69.9536 |
44 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 69.9885 | Yeah. | 70.5391 |
46 | | 70.7440 | Little Sally Walker sitting in the saucer, | 73.1721 |
48 | | 73.6431 | crying and weeping for someone to come. | 75.9593 |
50 | | 76.8419 | Let's see, rise Sally, rise, and wipe your weeping eyes. | 80.5449 |
52 | | 81.5848 | Point to the east, point to the west, point to the one that you like the best. I think that's about the way it goes. | 86.8761 |
54 | | 87.9365 | But now, they play that at school. | 89.5510 |
55 | DTA_int_01 | 89.8416 | Uh-huh. | 90.0832 |
56 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 90.5236 | Uh, on the playground over here in the summertime. Course, | 93.2942 |
58 | | 93.8203 | we live in Detroit, | 94.9424 |
59 | DTA_int_01 | 95.4929 | Mm-hm. | 95.7407 |
60 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 95.8905 | and that is Highland Park. | 97.8113 |
61 | DTA_int_01 | 97.9558 | Oh, I see. | 98.4883 |
62 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 98.5021 | Uh, but Highland Park does have a program. | 100.7871 |
64 | | 101.2482 | And the youngsters go over there and play | 102.9346 |
65 | DTA_int_01 | 103.3189 | Mm. | 103.5574 |
66 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 103.6002 | different games over there. And there they get a little | 105.7591 |
68 | | 106.0038 | more varied | 106.7593 |
70 | | 107.1137 | amount of games. | 108.0251 |
72 | | 108.7102 | They do a lot of the roller skating, | 110.4195 |
74 | | 110.5266 | swinging, and | 111.3768 |
76 | | 112.1231 | bike riding. | 112.9485 |
77 | DTA_int_01 | 113.3675 | It's a lot of [the /same thing there/.] | 114.7071 |
78 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 113.9456 | [Occasionally we go] swimming there, something like that. The h- family | 117.2637 |
79 | | 117.7469 | together does this, but that's about the way we spend our recreation. | 120.7775 |
80 | DTA_int_01 | 121.2118 | Mm-hm. | 121.5035 |
81 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 122.4623 | [Fishing.] | 122.9609 |
82 | DTA_int_01 | 122.4623 | [/?/] | 122.7437 |
83 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 123.1168 | [<laugh>] | 123.8686 |
84 | DTA_int_01 | 123.4572 | [And have- they play] a lot of the same games that you played when you were younger, or? | 126.0893 |
85 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 126.7939 | No, not so much. | 128.8630 |
87 | | 129.0281 | Not this group. You see, I- I- we're the fam- we're- have two different groups of children. | 133.3402 |
88 | DTA_int_01 | 133.6272 | Uh-huh. | 133.8816 |
89 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 133.9577 | And this happens to be the | 135.0679 |
91 | | 135.2361 | group of our old age, the group of our younger age s- | 137.8440 |
92 | DTA_int_01 | 138.5695 | [Oh.] | 138.9309 |
93 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 138.7271 | [benefitted] by | 139.6033 |
94 | | 140.2574 | the things that we did. Th- the boy has just started playing baseball, | 143.8492 |
96 | | 144.7408 | a little | 145.2332 |
98 | | 145.5543 | football, | 146.3888 |
99 | DTA_int_01 | 146.6733 | Uh-huh. | 146.9425 |
100 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 147.2881 | and, uh, basketball. | 148.7164 |
102 | | 149.2727 | But /RD-NAME-1/ hasn't gotten into any organized game like that. | 152.3276 |
103 | DTA_int_01 | 152.6581 | Uh-huh. | 152.9884 |
105 | | 153.4166 | What are some of the game- let's say one- | 155.0678 |
107 | | 155.3203 | one | 155.6764 |
109 | | 156.1902 | game that you used to play when you were- | 157.8432 |
111 | | 158.3736 | when you were a- | 158.9889 |
113 | | 159.2025 | in school or [something?] | 160.4404 |
114 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 160.2301 | [Me?] | 160.6423 |
115 | DTA_int_01 | 160.7191 | Yeah, [h-] | 161.1727 |
116 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 161.0096 | [Everything] you name it, I did it. | 162.5848 |
117 | DTA_int_01 | 162.7989 | <laugh>. | 163.1995 |
119 | | 163.8510 | Can you name some of them? | 164.6550 |
120 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 164.8263 | Oh, I- | 165.8111 |
122 | | 166.2813 | we had, uh, | 167.1381 |
124 | | 168.0067 | the bowling that's at- bowling on the green. | 170.3331 |
125 | DTA_int_01 | 170.4164 | Uh-huh. | 170.6893 |
126 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 170.9914 | Uh, I did a great deal of swimming. | 172.8755 |
128 | | 173.8752 | Uh, tennis. | 175.0347 |
130 | | 176.3889 | I played hockey, | 177.5325 |
132 | | 178.0313 | basketball, went into riflery. | 179.8232 |
133 | DTA_int_01 | 181.8169 | Hm. | 182.0249 |
134 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 182.2023 | Mm, | 182.9241 |
136 | | 183.8692 | that's why I say, you name it, I did it. | 185.4501 |
137 | DTA_int_01 | 185.4501 | <laugh> | 185.8966 |
139 | | 186.4016 | What about in, uh- in grade school? | 187.8510 |
141 | | 188.3858 | What [are those?] | 188.8637 |
142 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 188.7100 | [In] grade school it was soccer | 190.6763 |
143 | | 191.6427 | with the boys. | 192.3340 |
144 | DTA_int_01 | 192.3340 | <laugh> | 192.8998 |
145 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 192.9579 | Basketball, l- we called it fly ball out | 195.7285 |
147 | | 196.2209 | because you didn't really have a team. | 197.9272 |
148 | DTA_int_01 | 198.1596 | Uh-huh. | 198.4227 |
149 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 198.4563 | But, uh, there would be a | 199.6705 |
151 | | 200.1106 | number of youngsters lined up on one side, and then you'd hit a ball and | 203.3491 |
153 | | 203.8080 | we played that summer, winter. | 205.6094 |
155 | | 205.8540 | Where we'd find five people to get together to | 208.4626 |
157 | | 208.5910 | play, we'd get a basket- get a, um, baseball and we'd start after it. | 212.0096 |
159 | | 212.4642 | Why yes, I did have a- | 213.5236 |
161 | | 214.2332 | I did do a lot of basketball playing too. | 216.1566 |
162 | DTA_int_01 | 216.3278 | Hm. | 216.5725 |
164 | | 216.8141 | You call it | 217.1781 |
166 | | 217.3494 | fly ball out with a | 218.4190 |
168 | | 219.0587 | regular- | 219.4410 |
169 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 219.4716 | With a- with the- the, um, | 221.4439 |
171 | | 221.7284 | regulation softball | 223.2148 |
172 | DTA_int_01 | 223.4778 | Oh yeah. | 223.8540 |
173 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 223.8877 | and bat. | 224.4225 |
175 | | 224.8629 | [Mm-hm.] | 225.2850 |
176 | DTA_int_01 | 224.9842 | [Hm.] | 225.2484 |
177 | | 225.8784 | And w- what- | 226.6722 |
179 | | 226.8479 | yeah. | 227.1625 |
181 | | 227.4164 | What did you have to do to get points, or? | 229.1934 |
182 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 229.5626 | You just hit a b- hit a ball and run as many bases as you could. | 232.4167 |
183 | DTA_int_01 | 232.6491 | Uh-huh. | 232.9274 |
184 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 233.0647 | The next person come up and hit a ball and then you'd, uh- | 236.1136 |
186 | | 236.8691 | uh, come in if you couldn't. And every- | 238.8475 |
188 | | 238.9576 | every point you brought in was your own individual point. | 241.5543 |
189 | DTA_int_01 | 241.8418 | Oh, I see. | 242.4470 |
190 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 242.6611 | That was the way you'd | 243.3003 |
192 | | 243.5325 | determine who won the game. | 244.6675 |
193 | DTA_int_01 | 244.9091 | Hm. | 245.1687 |
195 | | 246.2758 | Um, | 246.6256 |
197 | | 248.7161 | uh, what're your favorite TV programs? | 250.4044 |
199 | | 250.5788 | See. | 250.9026 |
200 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 251.9333 | Um, | 252.7407 |
202 | | 253.8357 | well Twelve O'clock High, | 255.1984 |
204 | | 256.0435 | Perry Mason whenever I have a chance. I don't get a chance to watch the TV as much as p- as much I'd like to. | 260.8599 |
205 | DTA_int_01 | 260.9761 | Mm-hm. | 261.2881 |
206 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 261.4563 | So it's usually | 262.3524 |
208 | | 263.0861 | uh, they've- and then they changed all the Saturday programs that I liked. | 266.9946 |
210 | | 267.7163 | Um, | 268.3677 |
212 | | 270.1749 | what's this one, um. | 271.4350 |
214 | | 272.5143 | <ts> | 272.7039 |
216 | | 273.8948 | That Jason McCord plays in. | 275.7651 |
218 | | 276.8998 | Um, | 277.6369 |
220 | | 280.9729 | <ts> Branded. | 281.7917 |
221 | DTA_int_01 | 282.1902 | Hm. | 282.4226 |
222 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 282.7560 | And, um, | 283.8724 |
224 | | 285.1443 | there's, uh, | 286.1720 |
226 | | 287.9726 | I mentioned Twelve O'Clock High, Branded. | 290.0249 |
228 | | 290.8752 | And, um, | 291.8373 |
230 | | 293.0279 | oh, once in a while we, | 293.9424 |
232 | | 294.4241 | with nothing else to do, we watch, um, | 296.5754 |
234 | | 298.8173 | that's the funny thing, I can't remember the name of those programs because it- | 301.3494 |
236 | | 301.5879 | it's just something to do on a Saturday evening, that's all. | 303.8906 |
237 | DTA_int_01 | 303.9609 | /Well/ | 304.2087 |
239 | | 304.3371 | can you remember one- one episode of | 306.0678 |
241 | | 306.1871 | Twelve- | 306.5266 |
243 | | 306.6918 | was it Twelve O'Clock? | 307.5940 |
244 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 308.0713 | Twelve O'Clock High. | 308.9210 |
245 | DTA_int_01 | 309.0403 | Uh-huh. | 309.2728 |
247 | | 309.6490 | Can you remember one episode of that | 311.0276 |
248 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 311.1717 | [Oh, a couple weeks] or so ago, I think it was a very interesting one where they, uh, | 315.4575 |
249 | DTA_int_01 | 311.4012 | [that you can tell me?] | 312.2488 |
250 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 316.5849 | were very really badly beaten. This is all war, do you know the- | 319.6644 |
251 | DTA_int_01 | 319.7561 | Oh. | 320.0246 |
253 | | 320.2213 | [Oh, I don't watch that.] | 321.0434 |
254 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 320.2237 | [it's all war.] | 320.8684 |
255 | | 321.3462 | And they were very beat- | 322.3769 |
257 | | 322.5084 | badly beaten. They were- had been pushed into really a corner there. | 325.9580 |
259 | | 326.5418 | There were very men and they were trying to get a plane off the field, and the Germans were- | 330.0556 |
261 | | 330.3859 | were, um, | 331.1383 |
263 | | 331.6888 | coming in after them. | 332.8079 |
265 | | 333.4501 | And, uh, | 334.3555 |
267 | | 334.6399 | they said /pat/ | 335.4531 |
269 | | 335.6091 | until they could | 336.2850 |
271 | | 336.6092 | so- so to speak, see the whites of their eyes before they went out, and then they let 'em have it. | 340.7072 |
273 | | 341.2910 | Course I'm a- | 341.7956 |
275 | | 343.2239 | quite a patriotic person, [<laugh> so.] | 345.5174 |
276 | DTA_int_01 | 344.7926 | [<laugh>] | 345.1412 |
277 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 345.6428 | But | 345.8508 |
279 | | 346.2821 | in their beating them, this is [for me.] (laughing) | 348.4593 |
280 | DTA_int_01 | 348.0250 | [<laugh>] | 348.8845 |
281 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 350.6536 | Now, | 351.4314 |
283 | | 353.3001 | I used to love Perry Mason. | 355.1016 |
285 | | 356.2328 | And, um, | 357.2575 |
287 | | 358.8968 | I don't- | 359.3215 |
289 | | 359.7803 | I like music | 360.8539 |
291 | | 361.3891 | but the type of music I like and the type of music the younger people of the day like, | 365.3888 |
293 | | 366.3339 | it's all together different, you see. I come from a different area. | 368.9485 |
295 | | 370.0374 | I have a | 370.6430 |
297 | | 371.0249 | passion for records /on now/ that, | 372.9332 |
299 | | 373.0771 | uh, | 373.5573 |
301 | | 373.6858 | they're called, um, | 374.6479 |
303 | | 376.0098 | a collector's item. | 377.0860 |
304 | DTA_int_01 | 377.2971 | Oh, yeah. | 377.7130 |
305 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 377.7895 | From Reader's Digest that, uh, | 379.7378 |
307 | | 380.1258 | brings in all the old songs that I love. | 382.2209 |
308 | DTA_int_01 | 382.5114 | Hm. | 382.7286 |
309 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 383.0130 | And of course, | 383.6274 |
311 | | 383.9271 | that made me like Perry Mason. | 385.6154 |
312 | DTA_int_01 | 385.9811 | Mm-hm. | 386.2438 |
313 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 386.8292 | And like- m- made me like, uh, | 388.5267 |
315 | | 388.7372 | Perry Como. | 389.5417 |
316 | DTA_int_01 | 389.8476 | Mm-hm. | 390.1988 |
317 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 390.2789 | Perry Como I can- | 391.3891 |
319 | | 391.9090 | I can be sitting in a chair, | 393.4134 |
321 | | 393.8508 | half dead and the folks thinking any minute now I've got to call a doctor for her, and you turn on Perry Mason and I'm up across the floor dancing. (laughing) | 400.5145 |
322 | DTA_int_01 | 400.7102 | [Yeah.] | 400.9976 |
323 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 400.8597 | [<laugh>] | 401.7161 |
324 | DTA_int_01 | 401.4255 | [Yeah.] | 401.7467 |
325 | | 401.8965 | I like him too. | 402.6904 |
327 | | 403.6674 | Um, what about | 404.4351 |
329 | | 404.6090 | you- | 404.8499 |
331 | | 405.0539 | y- you have a dog. | 405.9487 |
333 | | 406.0649 | Could you [tell me about your dog] or? | 407.3276 |
334 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 406.3187 | [Yes.] | 406.9025 |
335 | | 407.9424 | All that. | 408.5144 |
337 | | 410.9241 | Um, the dog was given to us to raise for Seeing Eye. | 415.3860 |
338 | DTA_int_01 | 415.9121 | Oh. | 416.2114 |
339 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 417.1534 | And, uh, we really intended to give him to Seeing Eye. | 420.4562 |
340 | DTA_int_01 | 420.6948 | Mm-hm. | 420.9270 |
341 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 421.1169 | But the dog became temperamental. | 422.8170 |
343 | | 423.7315 | In other words, he bit two or three people. | 425.7554 |
344 | DTA_int_01 | 425.9118 | Mm-hm. | 426.1779 |
345 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 426.3431 | And Seeing Eye wouldn't take him. | 427.7194 |
347 | | 428.2512 | So he isn't in- | 429.3675 |
349 | | 429.9395 | he's a loveable beast, | 431.4806 |
351 | | 432.0127 | but, | 432.2483 |
353 | | 433.3921 | he just isn't what we want. We have a- | 435.1534 |
355 | | 435.2850 | a Siamese cat. | 436.2973 |
356 | DTA_int_01 | 436.5171 | Mm-hm. | 436.8001 |
357 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 437.0952 | We love cats, if you notice the collection up there. | 439.5206 |
358 | DTA_int_01 | 439.8566 | Oh. | 440.2267 |
359 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 440.8262 | But I don't like Siamese cats, so I'm hooked in with a cat I don't particularly care for. | 444.6244 |
361 | | 445.0802 | Although I love cats. | 446.3399 |
362 | DTA_int_01 | 446.3857 | Uh-huh. | 446.6383 |
363 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 446.8139 | And cats love me. | 447.8569 |
364 | DTA_int_01 | 448.3034 | Do you have a name for your cat? | 449.2308 |
365 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 449.9485 | Yes, his- my mother named him Felix. He comes from a long line of | 453.8294 |
367 | | 454.4533 | Ting Lee's and Foo Young's and | 456.6244 |
369 | | 457.0893 | all that type of thing. But he ended up Felix when he hit this [house. <laugh>] | 461.5073 |
370 | DTA_int_01 | 460.2790 | [<laugh>] | 461.0371 |
371 | | 462.8110 | Um, | 463.1536 |
373 | | 463.8260 | is there some- uh, | 465.0494 |
375 | | 465.5541 | well, whether you believe it or not, but | 466.8693 |
377 | | 467.1380 | uh, superstitious ways that you get a wish or- | 469.3554 |
379 | | 470.0585 | I mean, whether they actually believe it or not. | 471.4623 |
380 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 472.6093 | No. | 473.3949 |
382 | | 473.6549 | I- I- course, you got us from the school over here so you know that we're Catholic. | 477.3430 |
383 | DTA_int_01 | 477.3430 | Mm-hm. | 477.5755 |
384 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 478.0802 | And, um, | 478.8662 |
386 | | 480.5021 | u- you wouldn't call 'em a superstition because, uh, actually I believe in prayer. | 484.6860 |
387 | DTA_int_01 | 484.7985 | Mm-hm. | 485.1227 |
388 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 485.4714 | And, uh, | 486.2605 |
390 | | 486.8599 | that's the | 487.5450 |
392 | | 487.7530 | way things come along that I want, | 489.4103 |
393 | DTA_int_01 | 489.8171 | Mm-hm. | 490.1132 |
394 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 490.2423 | you don't always get 'em all answered. Most the [time] the answer's, no, you might [say.] (laughing) | 493.8107 |
395 | DTA_int_01 | 491.8017 | [Oh.] | 492.0687 |
397 | | 493.7618 | [Yeah.] | 494.0676 |
398 | | 494.1808 | Well what about things like the chicken bone? Like, we used | 496.2606 |
400 | | 496.4135 | pulling [the chicken bone. We didn't actually believe it.] | 498.0647 |
401 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 496.6150 | [No. No.] | 498.3767 |
402 | | 499.0404 | No, I don't fool with anything like that. | 500.7680 |
403 | DTA_int_01 | 501.0433 | Uh-huh. | 501.3125 |
404 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 501.3155 | Never did even b- I'm a convert to the faith, and [even before] I became a, | 504.7468 |
405 | DTA_int_01 | 503.7711 | [Oh.] | 504.0338 |
406 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 505.4196 | uh, | 506.0585 |
408 | | 507.2299 | I just | 507.6917 |
410 | | 508.0190 | didn't buy that. | 508.6307 |
411 | DTA_int_01 | 508.9789 | Hm. | 509.2848 |
412 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 510.3828 | If anything, uh, you might say I'm superstitious about those [superstitions.] | 513.9143 |
413 | DTA_int_01 | 513.6917 | [<laugh>] | 513.8934 |
414 | | 514.6394 | Yeah. | 514.9116 |
415 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 515.2328 | I [believe you fool around] with something that- I was Baptist. | 517.8994 |
416 | DTA_int_01 | 515.5693 | [What were you before?] | 516.2757 |
417 | | 517.9300 | Uh-huh. | 518.2144 |
418 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 518.5968 | And I feel if you fool around with something like that you'll do yourself more harm in God's eye than you would if you went ahead and- | 523.3921 |
420 | | 523.8570 | depended on him. | 524.6436 |
421 | DTA_int_01 | 524.8476 | Mm-hm. | 525.1014 |
423 | | 525.5602 | Yeah, that's good. | 526.2147 |
425 | | 526.8662 | Um, | 527.1624 |
427 | | 527.4928 | tell me about, | 527.9882 |
429 | | 528.1198 | uh, well let's see, your school when you went to school. What were some of the things you studied | 531.8905 |
431 | | 532.4257 | in grade school and in high school? | 533.8624 |
432 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 534.0739 | Well in grade school it was regular grade school, | 536.3204 |
434 | | 537.0280 | uh, set up, you know. | 538.5878 |
436 | | 539.2603 | Reading, writing, and arithmetic. | 540.8905 |
438 | | 541.9361 | And then in high school, | 543.2390 |
440 | | 544.4380 | college prep course. | 545.6824 |
441 | DTA_int_01 | 545.9362 | Mm-hm. | 546.2360 |
442 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 546.5510 | I added to it, debating. | 548.0065 |
444 | | 549.7039 | And, um, | 550.6735 |
445 | DTA_int_01 | 552.8110 | Did you have literature or? | 553.8559 |
446 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 554.1502 | oh, yes. | 554.8613 |
447 | DTA_int_01 | 555.0127 | Hm. | 555.2207 |
448 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 555.3491 | That was apart of the course, you [see. I didn't do anything special] with literature. | 558.7896 |
449 | DTA_int_01 | 556.8527 | [All] | 557.1415 |
451 | | 557.2481 | [kinds of literature?] | 558.0304 |
452 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 559.6307 | Um, | 560.2787 |
454 | | 562.2392 | didn't do anything special with it. | 563.6212 |
455 | DTA_int_01 | 563.8567 | Uh-huh. | 564.1350 |
456 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 564.8507 | It was just plain literature. | 566.1380 |
457 | DTA_int_01 | 566.3918 | Mm-hm. | 566.6922 |
459 | | 567.1106 | But I mean, | 567.6305 |
461 | | 567.9759 | didn't have any like, | 568.9728 |
463 | | 569.3735 | American and? | 570.2941 |
464 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 570.5785 | Well yes, i- th- this was it. You had English and- and you had the- you had the English literature, | 575.6059 |
465 | DTA_int_01 | 575.9607 | [Mm-hm.] | 576.2543 |
466 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 576.0402 | [then you] had the American literature. | 577.6949 |
467 | DTA_int_01 | 577.9697 | Mm-hm. | 578.2450 |
468 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 578.6243 | Uh, | 579.3644 |
470 | | 580.3507 | that was all. | 580.9453 |
472 | | 581.5990 | Just a regular high school course. Public high school. | 584.2648 |
473 | DTA_int_01 | 584.5325 | In grade school did you, uh, study about different countries and | 587.4866 |
475 | | 587.7925 | maps and that, and so [forth?] | 589.2300 |
476 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 588.9547 | [Y- yes, uh-huh.] | 590.2297 |
477 | DTA_int_01 | 589.8896 | [What do you call] that? | 590.5814 |
478 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 590.7466 | Uh-huh, g- geography. | 592.0556 |
479 | DTA_int_01 | 592.2361 | Uh-huh. | 592.5191 |
481 | | 592.9911 | And, uh, | 593.5447 |
483 | | 593.8475 | study about, | 594.4990 |
485 | | 594.8018 | well George Washington, | 596.0064 |
487 | | 596.5447 | Lincoln. | 596.9177 |
488 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 597.0280 | Yes. | 597.6642 |
489 | DTA_int_01 | 597.6642 | [Call this] | 598.2229 |
490 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 597.8354 | [Mm-hm.] | 598.2229 |
491 | DTA_int_01 | 598.5114 | [course?] | 598.8447 |
492 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 598.6704 | [Mm-hm.] | 598.9946 |
493 | | 599.6518 | That all was, uh- oh, you- you want [the name of it?] | 602.1961 |
494 | DTA_int_01 | 601.5297 | [Yeah, I want the course.] Yeah. | 602.4414 |
495 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 603.0739 | I believe that came along with our, um, | 605.4621 |
497 | | 606.1717 | I [don't believe] they call it history. | 607.7224 |
498 | DTA_int_01 | 606.3155 | [Yeah.] | 606.5626 |
499 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 608.0523 | They could've called it history. | 609.4439 |
500 | DTA_int_01 | 609.6305 | Uh-huh. | 609.9149 |
501 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 610.1229 | I'm not sure. | 610.8019 |
502 | DTA_int_01 | 611.7129 | And, uh, | 612.1962 |
504 | | 612.7498 | well when you're starting out, at least, | 614.1746 |
506 | | 614.4438 | would- | 614.6212 |
508 | | 614.8475 | could begin to work with numbers. You, uh, | 616.5583 |
510 | | 617.2511 | call this what? | 617.8403 |
512 | | 617.9882 | What [is it called?] | 618.6794 |
513 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 618.2604 | [Oh, you're] getting the- | 619.3401 |
514 | | 619.8141 | I see. | 620.4287 |
516 | | 620.7435 | Arithmetic. | 621.5082 |
517 | DTA_int_01 | 621.5846 | Yeah, I just [want the name.] | 622.5756 |
518 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 622.0917 | [Mm-hm. <laugh>] | 623.2615 |
519 | DTA_int_01 | 623.7313 | And, uh, | 624.1564 |
521 | | 624.7161 | from your seat in- | 625.5266 |
523 | | 625.7040 | in the classroom, can you remember some of the things you used to see around the room? | 628.6765 |
524 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 630.9669 | Not particularly. | 632.1257 |
526 | | 632.6151 | I, uh, saw practically everything that was to be seen, I [guess. I was] a- | 636.2268 |
527 | DTA_int_01 | 635.7215 | [<laugh>] | 636.0799 |
528 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 636.3277 | quite a nosy person. | 637.4961 |
530 | | 638.0706 | You mean, you want me to say blackboard, maps? | 641.0253 |
531 | DTA_int_01 | 641.2327 | Yeah. | 641.5172 |
533 | | 641.6273 | [Uh-huh.] | 641.8822 |
534 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 641.8414 | [<laugh>] | 642.1595 |
535 | DTA_int_01 | 642.2023 | [Mm-hm.] | 642.6134 |
536 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 642.3277 | [Well,] these were always in evident. | 644.0890 |
537 | DTA_int_01 | 644.3918 | Uh-huh. And [the teacher sat at a?] | 645.9578 |
538 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 644.8444 | [/You'd hear/ /?/.] | 645.8048 |
539 | | 646.7958 | A desk. | 647.3429 |
540 | DTA_int_01 | 648.8201 | And could it be one desk, | 649.9147 |
542 | | 650.0186 | two? | 650.3643 |
543 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 651.7589 | To a classroom. | 652.5878 |
544 | DTA_int_01 | 653.1624 | Yeah, uh, but | 653.7221 |
545 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 653.8536 | Usually. | 654.3491 |
546 | DTA_int_01 | 654.3491 | if it was two of these. | 655.4318 |
548 | | 657.2665 | One desk, and if there were two of the same thing, | 659.2736 |
550 | | 659.7527 | you'd have two? | 660.2329 |
551 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 660.3736 | Two desks? | 661.1780 |
552 | DTA_int_01 | 661.3921 | Uh-huh. | 661.6562 |
553 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 661.7740 | <laugh> | 662.0401 |
554 | DTA_int_01 | 662.0676 | We just wanted the | 662.5886 |
556 | | 662.7466 | plural | 663.1399 |
558 | | 663.3675 | [form.] | 663.6207 |
559 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 663.5296 | [Mm-hm.] | 663.7834 |
560 | DTA_int_01 | 665.8536 | Um, | 666.2696 |
562 | | 667.6000 | now if you walk- | 668.1104 |
564 | | 668.2419 | if you walk outside the classroom you're in a? | 670.4930 |
565 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 671.2508 | Hall. | 671.7680 |
566 | DTA_int_01 | 671.8597 | Uh-huh. | 672.1319 |
568 | | 672.3063 | And can you also- the things that were in the hall? | 674.0095 |
569 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 675.3797 | Usually lockers. | 676.7101 |
570 | DTA_int_01 | 677.1899 | Mm-hm. | 677.4682 |
571 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 678.3858 | Oh, there was a water fountain. | 679.8141 |
572 | DTA_int_01 | 681.1472 | Anything else? | 681.7147 |
573 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 681.7742 | And I don't say water (atypical pronunciation) like my son does that's coming in in the morning. He's from the east- he's coming in from New York. | 687.1034 |
574 | DTA_int_01 | 687.3154 | [Uh-huh.] | 687.5302 |
575 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 687.4225 | [And] he's changed his whole | 688.8607 |
576 | | 689.4346 | method of speaking. (laughing) | 690.6641 |
577 | DTA_int_01 | 690.9455 | [Oh.] | 691.1657 |
578 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 691.0587 | [Now] it's water (atypical pronunciation) instead of water. | 692.9025 |
579 | DTA_int_01 | 693.2726 | Oh, <laugh>. | 693.7719 |
581 | | 694.7438 | And then | 695.1012 |
583 | | 695.6579 | were there anything- | 696.4473 |
585 | | 697.0220 | were there, uh, any, uh, | 698.0431 |
587 | | 698.2450 | was there any equipment outside the school the kids played on? | 700.5641 |
588 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 700.9518 | The playground and- of course on our playground we had- um, | 704.2755 |
590 | | 704.8414 | there were no swings there. | 706.1229 |
592 | | 706.9273 | We did have some bars. | 708.4561 |
594 | | 710.2174 | And it was all gravel. | 711.5509 |
596 | | 712.1871 | Fence. | 712.8590 |
598 | | 714.7926 | And that was all. | 715.3339 |
599 | DTA_int_01 | 715.3462 | Do you have any special names of [the bars?] | 716.7815 |
600 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 716.3306 | [Oh, now] that's in grade school. In high school | 718.6935 |
601 | | 719.2725 | we had a tennis court. | 720.8446 |
602 | DTA_int_01 | 721.0556 | Hm. | 721.2965 |
603 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 721.6031 | And we had the- um, | 723.0703 |
605 | | 724.3615 | the- um, | 725.4285 |
607 | | 725.9331 | the bowling | 726.7436 |
609 | | 727.0923 | court was there. | 727.9579 |
610 | DTA_int_01 | 728.2419 | Uh-huh. | 728.4927 |
611 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 728.8414 | And we had, uh, hockey | 730.4838 |
613 | | 731.9515 | court. | 732.5436 |
615 | | 732.6855 | Yeah. | 732.9180 |
617 | | 733.3829 | Baseball diamond. | 734.2235 |
618 | DTA_int_01 | 734.7859 | Oh yeah. | 735.0558 |
620 | | 737.1501 | [/?/.] | 737.3184 |
621 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 737.2327 | [/Glovel-/] a lovely lawn and a cannon. [<laugh>] | 740.9086 |
622 | DTA_int_01 | 739.8443 | [<laugh>] | 740.2052 |
624 | | 740.5073 | [A cannon?] | 740.8713 |
625 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 741.0340 | [Mm-hm.] | 741.4622 |
626 | DTA_int_01 | 741.4225 | [Oh.] | 741.7192 |
627 | | 742.8600 | Um, | 743.1624 |
629 | | 743.5294 | what do- uh, what do the kids do after school was out? | 745.8528 |
631 | | 746.1777 | What- what did they used to do when- | 747.6366 |
632 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 748.0311 | Play. | 748.5083 |
633 | DTA_int_01 | 748.7281 | Uh-huh. | 749.0033 |
634 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 749.6793 | Oh, these here? | 750.6335 |
635 | DTA_int_01 | 750.9149 | Well, yeah. These here too. | 752.3489 |
636 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 752.7098 | Well they- they play after their chores are done. | 755.2379 |
637 | DTA_int_01 | 755.4529 | Uh-huh. | 755.7007 |
638 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 755.9117 | Sometimes they don't get them done, they play. | 757.7770 |
640 | | 758.0431 | [<laugh>] | 758.9882 |
641 | DTA_int_01 | 758.1593 | [<laugh>] | 758.7404 |
642 | | 759.8537 | Um, | 760.1535 |
644 | | 760.4807 | did you ever have a teacher who hollered a lot? | 761.8957 |
646 | | 762.4194 | Or an- | 762.7688 |
647 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 763.5230 | We did once, in grade school I had a | 765.9883 |
649 | | 766.0984 | teacher named Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/. | 767.6092 |
650 | DTA_int_01 | 767.9148 | Mm-hm. | 768.2145 |
651 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 768.5326 | And, uh, she had far too many youngsters in her room. | 771.7620 |
652 | DTA_int_01 | 772.0801 | Oh. | 772.3003 |
653 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 772.5113 | And about all she | 773.4621 |
655 | | 773.7496 | was able to teach us was to pick up the litter | 775.8386 |
657 | | 776.8995 | and shut up the fuss. [<laugh>] | 779.0675 |
658 | DTA_int_01 | 778.2880 | [Yeah.] | 778.5725 |
659 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 779.5997 | I'll remember her for that. | 780.8384 |
660 | DTA_int_01 | 780.9730 | [<laugh>] | 781.3981 |
662 | | 782.4315 | Well someone's got a real job on her hand. | 784.1963 |
663 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 784.2911 | Mm-hm. | 785.0247 |
664 | DTA_int_01 | 785.4590 | Uh, | 785.7741 |
666 | | 786.8078 | uh, | 787.1184 |
668 | | 787.3400 | tell me about the best teacher you think you ever had. | 789.1441 |
669 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 789.6824 | Uh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. | 790.7927 |
671 | | 791.2296 | He was, um, | 792.2571 |
673 | | 793.6795 | a shell-shock | 794.9239 |
675 | | 795.1992 | veteran of World War One. | 797.5080 |
677 | | 798.8170 | And, um, | 799.5949 |
679 | | 799.7682 | because of this | 800.8903 |
681 | | 802.6240 | accident you might say, to a g- | 804.0891 |
683 | | 804.1931 | that he'd come into or the wound that he had received, | 807.0860 |
685 | | 807.9363 | he had decided to go back and study | 809.9759 |
686 | DTA_int_01 | 810.4255 | Hm. | 810.5977 |
687 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 810.7161 | the cause of the war. | 812.1440 |
689 | | 813.0310 | And | 813.4622 |
691 | | 814.3584 | n- this is what we were discussing in here this morning. | 816.7038 |
693 | | 816.9393 | My husband has come in contact with someone that was | 819.0296 |
695 | | 819.6977 | on- um, | 820.6889 |
697 | | 821.2602 | I guess he said the Mohawk during the, uh, World- | 823.9150 |
699 | | 824.0798 | during the, um, | 824.9940 |
701 | | 825.8714 | this last battle- Pearl Harbor. | 827.4034 |
703 | | 828.1074 | And we're quite interested in things like this. | 830.1899 |
705 | | 830.7373 | And, uh, so he, um, | 832.7162 |
707 | | 832.8967 | was telling us about that and Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, | 834.5876 |
709 | | 835.2972 | uh, gave us a break down on | 837.0646 |
711 | | 837.2420 | a lot of the history and back | 839.0343 |
713 | | 839.9851 | of World War One. | 841.2849 |
714 | DTA_int_01 | 841.6244 | Mm-hm. | 841.8595 |
715 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 841.8600 | And then he brought us right up | 843.0616 |
717 | | 843.2175 | to and through it. | 844.0709 |
719 | | 844.6336 | And this was | 845.1684 |
721 | | 845.3122 | extremely interesting. | 846.5478 |
722 | DTA_int_01 | 846.7619 | Was this in high school or was it in [college?] | 848.2449 |
723 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 847.9544 | [This was] in high school. | 848.9881 |
724 | DTA_int_01 | 848.9973 | Hm. | 849.1931 |
726 | | 851.1837 | Hm, it sounds good. | 851.9361 |
728 | | 852.5718 | Um, | 852.8635 |
730 | | 853.2666 | w- | 853.4409 |
732 | | 853.8154 | is there a- | 854.1654 |
734 | | 854.2816 | ever a teacher you just couldn't get along with? | 856.1259 |
736 | | 856.2207 | Had a hard time, | 856.7193 |
738 | | 857.8474 | just couldn't stand? | 858.5324 |
739 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 859.6030 | No. | 860.2847 |
741 | | 860.9147 | I, uh, | 861.6505 |
743 | | 862.2574 | didn't have that unpleasant experience. | 864.3219 |
744 | DTA_int_01 | 864.4469 | Mm-hm. | 864.7191 |
745 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 865.3767 | There were teachers that I didn't like, | 867.2212 |
746 | DTA_int_01 | 867.4836 | Mm-hm. | 867.7803 |
747 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 868.0341 | but, uh, I could get along with them. | 869.9687 |
748 | DTA_int_01 | 870.2236 | Mm-hm. | 870.4989 |
750 | | 871.6673 | Um, what about was there | 872.8780 |
752 | | 872.9942 | any- | 873.2756 |
754 | | 873.5356 | ever a time when the kids tricked the teacher? | 875.4367 |
756 | | 875.9025 | Pull a trick on a teacher? | 877.0097 |
757 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 877.3798 | No, I think I was the only one guilty of that. | 879.3418 |
758 | DTA_int_01 | 879.6121 | [<laugh>] | 880.1381 |
759 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 879.9240 | [In] biology we were going to dis- | 881.9178 |
760 | | 882.1594 | dissect a frog. | 883.7267 |
762 | | 884.9881 | And, uh, | 885.9821 |
764 | | 886.4042 | I didn't think I wanted to be on hand when this frog was cut open. | 890.1731 |
765 | DTA_int_01 | 890.5936 | Uh-huh. | 890.8658 |
766 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 891.2481 | So | 891.7772 |
768 | | 891.9546 | I was sick that day. | 893.0430 |
770 | | 894.3704 | That was about the only thing. I got my lesson from somebody else. | 897.2750 |
771 | DTA_int_01 | 897.5570 | [<laugh>] | 898.2725 |
772 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 897.8476 | [<laugh>] | 898.2394 |
773 | DTA_int_01 | 899.8964 | Um, | 900.2603 |
775 | | 900.8047 | who was the smartest- | 901.6152 |
777 | | 901.8110 | who was the smartest kid in your class when you | 903.5601 |
779 | | 903.7986 | were in school? | 904.5816 |
780 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 906.1563 | Well it wasn't me. | 907.1901 |
782 | | 907.5265 | [<laugh>] | 908.2082 |
783 | DTA_int_01 | 908.1042 | [<laugh>] | 908.4873 |
784 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 908.8872 | I couldn't tell you exactly who. | 910.7498 |
786 | | 915.8353 | Possibly, um- | 917.4896 |
788 | | 919.6519 | I really couldn't say. | 920.6678 |
790 | | 921.0707 | I really don't remember who you would- you might say was the smartest in school. | 924.4928 |
791 | DTA_int_01 | 924.6426 | /Oh/. | 924.8445 |
793 | | 925.0710 | [/?/.] | 925.3763 |
794 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 925.1167 | [These] things didn't really mean too much to me. | 926.8780 |
795 | DTA_int_01 | 927.2573 | Uh-huh. | 927.5325 |
797 | | 928.0035 | What about some of the kids that- | 928.9971 |
799 | | 929.6027 | well, would do a little a bit | 930.6090 |
801 | | 930.8934 | better than- what would the teacher- how would the teacher reward them? | 933.3001 |
803 | | 933.7497 | In any special way, or? | 934.8110 |
804 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 935.8474 | I never noticed any extra | 937.7253 |
806 | | 939.5417 | <laugh> rewards being given to anyone. | 941.6027 |
807 | DTA_int_01 | 941.7801 | Mm-hm. | 941.9789 |
809 | | 942.2511 | What about some people who had trouble | 943.9757 |
811 | | 944.1684 | with school and so forth? | 945.5413 |
812 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 945.6518 | Usually they were given extra help. | 947.5507 |
813 | DTA_int_01 | 947.6547 | Uh-huh. | 947.9188 |
815 | | 948.8170 | There were some, | 949.4654 |
817 | | 949.6764 | uh, like that around? | 950.6914 |
818 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 951.8445 | Oh yes. I imagine there are some of those in every class. Of course in high school, you didn't have the same | 957.0126 |
820 | | 957.6029 | class all the time and in grade school- I mean, you didn't have the same people in your class all the time. | 962.0369 |
822 | | 962.5752 | In grade school, | 963.6796 |
824 | | 963.8384 | uh, this wasn't as evident as it was possibly in high school that someone was getting extra help. | 968.3550 |
825 | DTA_int_01 | 968.5538 | Mm-hm. | 968.8199 |
827 | | 970.4439 | What time did you used to get out of school? | 971.8505 |
829 | | 972.3918 | Remember that? | 972.8842 |
830 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 972.8934 | In grade school? | 973.7100 |
831 | DTA_int_01 | 973.9451 | Yeah. | 974.1042 |
832 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 974.3030 | Three thirty. | 974.9392 |
833 | DTA_int_01 | 975.0890 | Uh-huh. And then fifteen minutes after that would be? | 976.8320 |
834 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 979.4195 | Three forty-five. | 980.5263 |
835 | DTA_int_01 | 980.5263 | Uh-huh. | 980.7373 |
837 | | 980.8382 | A quarter of an hour later? | 981.6451 |
839 | | 982.2176 | Er- after- | 982.6917 |
840 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 982.7314 | Be four o'clock. | 983.7648 |
841 | DTA_int_01 | 983.9483 | uh-huh. | 984.2236 |
843 | | 984.9943 | Um, | 985.2513 |
845 | | 985.3675 | I'm trying to get- uh, | 986.4345 |
847 | | 987.1594 | well, see- | 987.7558 |
849 | | 987.9343 | okay, three thirty and then a quarter of an hour later would be? | 990.0981 |
850 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 990.7649 | Three forty-five. | 991.6733 |
851 | DTA_int_01 | 992.1164 | Uh-huh. | 992.3856 |
853 | | 992.6088 | You wouldn't call it, uh, | 993.4680 |
855 | | 994.0096 | anything by quarters? | 994.8325 |
856 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 996.1227 | No. I don't | 997.5112 |
858 | | 997.6366 | think, uh, well you want me to say a quarter to four? | 1000.4391 |
859 | DTA_int_01 | 1000.6375 | Yeah. | 1000.9262 |
861 | | 1001.0791 | Well see, we're interested- some people say quarter of. | 1002.6611 |
863 | | 1002.9388 | Pretty [interesting /??/.] | 1004.0501 |
864 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1003.5764 | [No.] I would say a quarter to four. | 1005.4009 |
865 | DTA_int_01 | 1006.3995 | Okay. | 1006.7579 |
867 | | 1007.4987 | Um, | 1007.8312 |
869 | | 1008.1333 | now, | 1008.4231 |
871 | | 1009.0974 | uh, | 1009.4117 |
873 | | 1010.1561 | is there a group of p- people that you, | 1011.9998 |
875 | | 1012.1218 | um, do things with | 1013.2480 |
877 | | 1014.0356 | now and, | 1014.5635 |
879 | | 1014.7557 | well you probably go places together? | 1016.2546 |
880 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1017.8564 | Uh, we only have one, | 1019.9594 |
882 | | 1020.6123 | uh, you might say personal friend, and | 1023.4231 |
884 | | 1023.6275 | we don't do too much together. We more or less | 1026.0204 |
886 | | 1026.1394 | sit and talk. | 1027.3381 |
887 | DTA_int_01 | 1027.4544 | Mm-hm. | 1027.6680 |
888 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1028.5047 | We're quite conversationalists, we love to <laugh> run our mouths. | 1032.3163 |
889 | DTA_int_01 | 1032.3163 | Mm-hm. | 1032.6062 |
890 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1033.3049 | Uh, I do work with the National Council of Catholic Women. That is the DACCW of Detroit, our staffs and council. | 1040.1897 |
892 | | 1041.1607 | And, um, | 1042.0699 |
894 | | 1042.4574 | [in that] I've held several, | 1044.0570 |
895 | DTA_int_01 | 1042.4574 | [<cough>] | 1042.8827 |
896 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1044.4262 | [um,] | 1044.8989 |
897 | DTA_int_01 | 1044.4262 | [<clears throat>] | 1044.9906 |
898 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1046.2782 | posts, you might say. I've been a | 1048.2835 |
900 | | 1048.9517 | chairman of several committees. | 1050.4689 |
902 | | 1051.4788 | And have held | 1052.1592 |
904 | | 1052.6787 | three elective offices. | 1054.4376 |
906 | | 1055.9624 | And this is a extent of the things that I do. My main hobby is photography. | 1059.8655 |
907 | DTA_int_01 | 1060.0760 | Hm. | 1060.3503 |
908 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1061.0249 | But, uh, I don't get a chance to do very much of [this.] | 1063.5348 |
909 | DTA_int_01 | 1063.3323 | [Do you do] a photography club or anything like this? | 1065.1546 |
910 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1065.2339 | No. | 1065.8106 |
912 | | 1065.9021 | No, I do this all alone. My | 1067.6390 |
914 | | 1067.7549 | dark room is upstairs in the hallway. | 1069.4879 |
915 | DTA_int_01 | 1069.5093 | Oh. | 1069.9334 |
916 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1070.8312 | And I | 1071.4552 |
918 | | 1072.0608 | [spot] | 1072.3695 |
919 | DTA_int_01 | 1072.1023 | [That's my father's] | 1072.7871 |
920 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1072.5469 | [anything.] | 1073.0341 |
921 | DTA_int_01 | 1073.0768 | passion too. | 1073.8750 |
922 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1074.2004 | [I didn't know that.] | 1074.7770 |
923 | DTA_int_01 | 1074.2553 | [/?/] | 1074.6153 |
924 | | 1077.3926 | Um, | 1077.7160 |
926 | | 1080.7551 | let's see. | 1081.2686 |
928 | | 1081.4971 | I- | 1081.7259 |
930 | | 1081.9067 | bout- are- are the people that | 1083.4078 |
932 | | 1083.5482 | you | 1083.9052 |
934 | | 1084.0486 | are with most the time, | 1084.9914 |
936 | | 1085.2080 | are they- | 1085.4346 |
938 | | 1085.5474 | they're about- | 1085.9990 |
940 | | 1086.1659 | they're | 1086.4536 |
942 | | 1086.5909 | your- | 1086.8100 |
944 | | 1087.0913 | same age as you are, and | 1088.2412 |
945 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1088.6664 | [No, they vary] in ages and now this | 1090.8703 |
946 | DTA_int_01 | 1088.7183 | [/I guess older than you are/?] | 1089.7454 |
947 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1091.1622 | couple that I said that are our best friends, they're younger than | 1093.7686 |
948 | DTA_int_01 | 1094.1744 | Hm. | 1094.4559 |
949 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1094.8922 | we are. | 1095.4933 |
951 | | 1095.7648 | For the most if our friends are either older- | 1098.2950 |
953 | | 1099.1432 | in our younger | 1100.0280 |
955 | | 1100.1348 | years our friends were all much older. | 1102.1706 |
956 | DTA_int_01 | 1102.3720 | Mm. | 1102.5734 |
957 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1102.7015 | And now our friends are much younger. | 1104.5146 |
958 | DTA_int_01 | 1104.8289 | Hm. | 1105.0821 |
960 | | 1107.7953 | Um, | 1108.1462 |
962 | | 1108.8693 | now | 1109.1624 |
964 | | 1109.6024 | in, uh, | 1110.2075 |
966 | | 1110.3512 | in your- | 1110.8228 |
968 | | 1111.0242 | the people that you | 1111.7900 |
970 | | 1111.9852 | are with, | 1112.3829 |
972 | | 1112.6908 | do they speak, | 1113.2748 |
974 | | 1113.3834 | uh, | 1113.6824 |
976 | | 1113.8624 | other languages like Hungarian, Polish, Spanish, and so [forth?] | 1116.6672 |
977 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1116.6092 | [Uh,] I have one Polish friend. | 1118.7183 |
978 | | 1119.2004 | And she tried to teach me to speak Polish. | 1121.4834 |
980 | | 1122.3102 | I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood, | 1124.1195 |
982 | | 1124.3308 | and my mother was afraid I'd sp- | 1125.7496 |
984 | | 1125.8411 | learn to speak | 1126.5154 |
986 | | 1127.2232 | the Jewish language before I learned to speak English. | 1129.5104 |
988 | | 1130.4559 | Um, | 1131.0753 |
990 | | 1132.1157 | then this one | 1133.0096 |
992 | | 1133.1866 | couple that I was talking about, they speak Fren- uh, Spanish. | 1136.4284 |
994 | | 1137.1119 | But we don't. | 1137.7496 |
996 | | 1137.9174 | I don't. | 1138.5306 |
997 | DTA_int_01 | 1139.0218 | Uh-huh. | 1139.2576 |
999 | | 1139.6573 | [But- but you-] | 1140.3474 |
1000 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1139.8617 | [I don't even] attempt it. | 1140.9235 |
1001 | DTA_int_01 | 1141.1798 | yeah. | 1141.3689 |
1003 | | 1141.9761 | But- | 1142.0837 |
1005 | | 1142.4925 | yeah. | 1142.6573 |
1006 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1142.8251 | [I hate] languages and I hate foreign languages and. [<laugh>] | 1147.2316 |
1007 | DTA_int_01 | 1142.9263 | [Okay.] | 1143.1985 |
1009 | | 1146.5238 | [<laugh>] | 1147.1736 |
1010 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1147.4971 | Simply because I'm too stupid to learn them. [<laugh>] | 1150.0669 |
1011 | DTA_int_01 | 1149.5695 | [<laugh>] | 1149.8736 |
1012 | | 1150.1340 | Well I doubt that. | 1150.9242 |
1014 | | 1151.7030 | Um, | 1152.0173 |
1016 | | 1152.2431 | are there any, uh, | 1153.0363 |
1018 | | 1153.3781 | Jewish people or, uh, | 1154.7763 |
1020 | | 1155.0020 | white people that you | 1155.9143 |
1022 | | 1156.0577 | are | 1156.3944 |
1024 | | 1156.8266 | a- | 1156.9547 |
1026 | | 1157.4132 | acquainted with or associated with in your group? | 1159.4940 |
1028 | | 1160.0249 | Have you- [/inaudible/?] | 1161.1322 |
1029 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1160.2942 | [Yeah, it's mainly-] mainly white. We've, uh, lived more or less in that type of neighborhood- mixed neighborhood most of our lives. | 1166.6176 |
1030 | | 1167.8746 | Of course, the DACCW the majority are white. | 1170.6985 |
1031 | DTA_int_01 | 1170.9906 | Oh. | 1171.2896 |
1033 | | 1172.0371 | I suppose then you- mentioned in a Jewish neighborhood [when you were young.] | 1174.9235 |
1034 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1174.4025 | [Yes.] | 1174.9554 |
1035 | | 1175.0829 | I live- lived in a Jewish neighborhood until I was | 1177.5306 |
1037 | | 1178.9074 | oh, I guess I was eighteen before | 1180.9232 |
1038 | DTA_int_01 | 1181.3857 | Oh. | 1181.6756 |
1039 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1181.9349 | I moved out of a | 1182.7495 |
1041 | | 1183.2224 | almost completely all Jewish neighborhood. | 1185.2675 |
1042 | DTA_int_01 | 1185.4292 | Was that- was that here in Detroit? | 1186.4482 |
1043 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1186.7411 | Yes. | 1187.2812 |
1045 | | 1187.7823 | Mm-hm. | 1188.0264 |
1046 | DTA_int_01 | 1189.0119 | [Um-] | 1189.2499 |
1047 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1189.1004 | [And] I can mimic them and I can give you a whole [/unintelligible/.] (laughing) | 1193.0951 |
1048 | DTA_int_01 | 1192.4177 | [<laugh>] | 1192.9561 |
1049 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1193.8958 | Ways of handling themselves, you know. | 1195.8998 |
1051 | | 1196.3003 | My- i- if you noticed, I talk with my hands. | 1198.2713 |
1052 | DTA_int_01 | 1199.1496 | [/unintelligible/] | 1200.2095 |
1053 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1199.4223 | [<laugh>] | 1200.3712 |
1054 | DTA_int_01 | 1200.7038 | gesture or something? | 1201.5733 |
1056 | | 1202.2262 | Um, is- | 1202.7671 |
1058 | | 1203.0966 | now in- in your group is there someone who, uh, | 1205.2964 |
1060 | | 1205.5291 | probably you look to more for leadership | 1207.5031 |
1062 | | 1207.8113 | or, | 1208.1306 |
1064 | | 1209.2339 | um, | 1209.5314 |
1066 | | 1209.7160 | someone who'd probably comes up with some | 1211.2209 |
1068 | | 1212.0569 | good ideas and so forth? | 1213.0241 |
1069 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1213.2316 | Well we did have one leader that we felt was [quite a] leader. She's just left the office, that was /RD-NAME-1/, um, /RD-NAME-2/. | 1219.7350 |
1070 | DTA_int_01 | 1215.8288 | [Mm-hm.] | 1216.1859 |
1071 | | 1220.0981 | Mm-hm. | 1220.3840 |
1072 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1220.7244 | Uh, | 1221.3285 |
1074 | | 1222.6099 | quite a gal. | 1223.2659 |
1075 | DTA_int_01 | 1223.4742 | Uh-huh. What- what were so- p- so much that made her a leader? | 1225.8948 |
1076 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1226.7884 | Well she was elected the president | 1228.3658 |
1078 | | 1228.6862 | because of her | 1229.7420 |
1080 | | 1229.9227 | extreme know-how. | 1231.1969 |
1081 | DTA_int_01 | 1231.4543 | Mm-hm. | 1231.7359 |
1082 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1231.9730 | And, uh, | 1232.8525 |
1084 | | 1234.0668 | of course we all feel now that we've lost a real good leader. | 1237.5550 |
1085 | DTA_int_01 | 1237.8937 | Mm. | 1238.1225 |
1086 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1238.6359 | But, uh, | 1239.3276 |
1088 | | 1242.5878 | there wouldn't be anything other than just | 1244.3338 |
1090 | | 1244.9715 | the ideas that she put across, that you might say that we- | 1248.2461 |
1092 | | 1249.4329 | that I would pick up from her. | 1250.8479 |
1093 | DTA_int_01 | 1251.0234 | Mm-hm. | 1251.3107 |
1095 | | 1251.9173 | Hm. | 1252.1584 |
1096 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1253.3147 | My pronunciation and diction and all come more or less from my- | 1256.9349 |
1098 | | 1258.3658 | possibly from my mother. | 1260.0478 |
1100 | | 1261.3902 | And possibly because I always wanted to make sure | 1264.2175 |
1102 | | 1264.9882 | I did everything correctly. | 1266.3407 |
1103 | DTA_int_01 | 1266.6610 | Mm-hm. | 1266.8593 |
1104 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1267.5092 | Missed the boat a lot of times, but most of the [things] I. (laughing) | 1270.5226 |
1105 | DTA_int_01 | 1269.9753 | [Yeah.] | 1270.2285 |
1106 | | 1271.5657 | And then, uh, | 1272.0998 |
1108 | | 1272.3071 | what about like, in- in your, | 1274.0036 |
1110 | | 1274.8433 | um, | 1275.0539 |
1112 | | 1276.0241 | the- your main circle of friends is then with the ACCW? Is that? | 1278.6929 |
1113 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1279.1828 | Well that's- w- that's- I work with this group of women. | 1282.0503 |
1115 | | 1282.1644 | [Course I] work in the post office with a- a hodge podge of almost- | 1286.0157 |
1116 | DTA_int_01 | 1282.2248 | [Uh.] | 1282.4420 |
1117 | | 1286.3552 | Oh. | 1286.5870 |
1118 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1286.8098 | and I've | 1287.1667 |
1120 | | 1287.3132 | been there with them for twenty-five years. | 1289.6908 |
1121 | DTA_int_01 | 1289.7182 | Oh, I [/??/.] | 1290.4621 |
1122 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1290.3101 | [Some] of [the people that I'm] working with right now, I've worked with for at least eighteen years. | 1294.5894 |
1123 | DTA_int_01 | 1290.6814 | [/inaudible/] | 1291.3435 |
1124 | | 1294.7777 | Hm. | 1294.9821 |
1125 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1295.1957 | And this is across the board. You- | 1297.1614 |
1127 | | 1298.3613 | you'll catch almost anything there. | 1300.1065 |
1128 | DTA_int_01 | 1300.3567 | Hm. | 1300.5656 |
1130 | | 1301.1347 | Um, | 1301.4680 |
1132 | | 1301.9165 | now, | 1302.1606 |
1134 | | 1302.5329 | when you, uh, were in school, | 1303.9882 |
1136 | | 1304.5352 | do you remember what did you want to be when you, uh, | 1306.6160 |
1138 | | 1306.8906 | when you | 1307.3338 |
1139 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1307.6786 | [A lawyer.] | 1308.3911 |
1140 | DTA_int_01 | 1307.7274 | [/grew up/?] | 1308.0809 |
1141 | | 1309.1736 | A lawyer? | 1309.5245 |
1142 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1309.6496 | [Mm-hm.] | 1310.0584 |
1143 | DTA_int_01 | 1309.9791 | [H-] | 1310.1164 |
1144 | | 1310.6847 | uh, and then h- how long would it have taken to be | 1313.0386 |
1146 | | 1313.5321 | a lawyer? | 1313.9074 |
1147 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1313.9616 | [Uh, at that time] six years. | 1316.0645 |
1148 | DTA_int_01 | 1314.1525 | [/inaudible/] | 1315.0167 |
1149 | | 1316.2445 | Mm-hm. | 1316.5230 |
1151 | | 1317.2369 | Is that after high school, or? | 1318.4864 |
1152 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1318.9028 | That would have been including, uh, | 1320.8563 |
1154 | | 1321.4726 | uh, high- | 1322.0126 |
1156 | | 1322.1316 | uh, | 1322.5870 |
1158 | | 1324.3139 | I believe that was the college, uh, | 1325.9043 |
1160 | | 1326.3803 | four years of college and then two years of, uh, | 1328.6877 |
1162 | | 1329.1515 | law. | 1329.5603 |
1163 | DTA_int_01 | 1329.6793 | Hm. | 1329.9142 |
1165 | | 1331.1385 | Mm-hm. | 1331.4505 |
1167 | | 1332.0721 | And, uh, | 1332.4901 |
1169 | | 1332.8868 | here's a interesting question. If you- if you could | 1335.1210 |
1171 | | 1335.9844 | go back and do everything over again, | 1337.4680 |
1173 | | 1337.5840 | what would you | 1338.3546 |
1175 | | 1338.6549 | change, uh, | 1339.0820 |
1177 | | 1339.2712 | any, uh, [decisions?] | 1340.2415 |
1178 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1339.7502 | [Mm-hm.] | 1340.1900 |
1179 | | 1340.4101 | Mm-hm. | 1340.7823 |
1181 | | 1341.5237 | I'd be a nun. | 1342.2346 |
1182 | DTA_int_01 | 1342.6587 | Uh-huh. | 1342.9344 |
1184 | | 1344.3895 | Were- th- then you weren't- | 1345.5122 |
1186 | | 1345.6282 | you weren't a Catholic [then.] | 1346.4232 |
1187 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1346.3002 | [No,] I wasn't a Catholic then. | 1347.7530 |
1188 | | 1348.0241 | [Mm-hm.] | 1348.2712 |
1189 | DTA_int_01 | 1348.1949 | [Why-] why would you be a nun? | 1349.1513 |
1190 | | 1349.3460 | Can you | 1349.5443 |
1192 | | 1350.3406 | talk about [that?] | 1350.8761 |
1193 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1350.7098 | [I] sort of like the secluded life they live. | 1353.4535 |
1194 | DTA_int_01 | 1353.6122 | [<laugh>] | 1353.9478 |
1195 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1353.7861 | [<laugh>] | 1354.1095 |
1196 | DTA_int_01 | 1357.3688 | Any- | 1357.6373 |
1197 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1357.7624 | That's it. | 1358.2201 |
1198 | DTA_int_01 | 1358.3124 | uh-huh. Okay. | 1359.0172 |
1200 | | 1359.8288 | Um, | 1360.1510 |
1202 | | 1361.0980 | if you had all- | 1361.7457 |
1204 | | 1361.8586 | if you had | 1362.4347 |
1206 | | 1362.7708 | all the money that you could ever want, | 1364.3116 |
1208 | | 1364.5229 | what- what would you do with it? | 1365.5940 |
1209 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1368.2338 | Well, um, when I buy a sweepstake ticket and I dream of getting fifty-four thousand dollars, | 1374.4169 |
1211 | | 1375.6282 | uh, | 1376.2475 |
1213 | | 1377.3162 | I try to think of | 1378.5469 |
1215 | | 1378.9882 | some of the people I- I know aren't- | 1380.4627 |
1217 | | 1381.8448 | who've wanted things all their lives and never had it. | 1384.2498 |
1219 | | 1384.5092 | Along with me. | 1385.3741 |
1221 | | 1386.4535 | And, um, | 1387.2010 |
1223 | | 1387.4054 | once or twice I have set up a trust fund, you know. | 1390.0627 |
1224 | DTA_int_01 | 1390.2224 | Mm-hm. | 1390.5000 |
1225 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1390.9363 | Uh, | 1391.4985 |
1227 | | 1391.8677 | so that they could get five thousand dollars a piece. | 1394.7457 |
1229 | | 1395.5237 | And then | 1396.1064 |
1231 | | 1396.9272 | if they were ever able to pay it back- put it back, and that would go to someone else. That five thousand dollars would | 1402.2559 |
1233 | | 1402.7350 | just give them | 1403.4344 |
1235 | | 1403.6785 | the | 1404.0447 |
1237 | | 1404.7098 | needed start | 1405.8600 |
1238 | DTA_int_01 | 1405.8845 | Hm. | 1406.1285 |
1239 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1406.4955 | that they needed. Now that's the way I look at it from that angle. | 1409.0431 |
1241 | | 1409.9653 | Um, | 1410.5725 |
1243 | | 1411.0607 | I imagine I'd like to travel. | 1412.7823 |
1245 | | 1414.4726 | There's so much of | 1415.3704 |
1247 | | 1415.4619 | [upper Michigan] | 1416.5694 |
1248 | DTA_int_01 | 1415.5351 | [<cough>] | 1416.2462 |
1249 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1417.6831 | and, uh, just above us here in Canada that I'd love to see. | 1420.9638 |
1250 | DTA_int_01 | 1421.1133 | Mm-hm. | 1421.3909 |
1251 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1421.7548 | I'd like to go to California. | 1423.2285 |
1253 | | 1423.8326 | Not to stay, | 1424.7518 |
1254 | DTA_int_01 | 1425.1209 | Mm-hm. | 1425.3528 |
1255 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1425.4494 | just to go out there. | 1426.4207 |
1257 | | 1427.7640 | I've been as far as Nevada. | 1429.2376 |
1259 | | 1431.0172 | But, um, | 1431.9460 |
1261 | | 1434.1148 | there no r- real great ambitions that I have for that. | 1437.0050 |
1263 | | 1437.9996 | I know I'll never get it so there's no necessity in dreaming the dream. (laughing) | 1441.4817 |
1264 | DTA_int_01 | 1441.4817 | Yeah. | 1441.7442 |
1266 | | 1441.9150 | /Well/ | 1442.1629 |
1268 | | 1442.3154 | /sure it does/. | 1442.9196 |
1270 | | 1445.4590 | Now, can you describe what you do in a day's work? | 1447.7166 |
1272 | | 1448.2178 | /Just/ | 1448.4485 |
1273 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1449.0416 | Oh, I'm [not an] organized person. That isn't fair. | 1452.0874 |
1274 | DTA_int_01 | 1449.5654 | [/?/.] | 1449.7629 |
1275 | | 1452.3040 | [<laugh>] | 1452.8569 |
1276 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1453.7746 | Um, | 1454.2788 |
1277 | DTA_int_01 | 1454.7334 | Say what you did yesterday. | 1455.7986 |
1278 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1456.1613 | Yesterday? | 1457.0184 |
1279 | DTA_int_01 | 1457.0184 | [Mm-hm.] | 1457.3207 |
1280 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1457.2811 | [Oh,] you don't want to know that. | 1458.4443 |
1281 | DTA_int_01 | 1458.7464 | [<laugh>] | 1459.1092 |
1282 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1459.3444 | I watered the lawn in the back. I | 1462.1430 |
1284 | | 1462.8478 | watered my, | 1463.7426 |
1286 | | 1464.8135 | um, | 1465.4024 |
1288 | | 1465.7685 | roses. I have a rose garden out back. | 1467.6793 |
1290 | | 1469.8738 | Uh, I ran the vacuum and hung- | 1472.4482 |
1292 | | 1472.9592 | I | 1473.1057 |
1294 | | 1473.2399 | took down curtains and changed a | 1475.2544 |
1296 | | 1475.3673 | curtain rod. | 1476.2247 |
1298 | | 1477.3596 | And, um, | 1478.3246 |
1300 | | 1478.6541 | rehung them. | 1479.4504 |
1302 | | 1481.5565 | Moved some furniture around. | 1483.2289 |
1304 | | 1483.3474 | Got it out in the center of the floor, | 1484.8158 |
1306 | | 1484.9134 | somebody else can move ['em.] (laughing) | 1486.6495 |
1307 | DTA_int_01 | 1486.2285 | [<laugh>] | 1486.8905 |
1308 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1488.7616 | I didn't prepare dinner yesterday, I think | 1490.6419 |
1310 | | 1490.7639 | dinner yesterday was only hot dogs. | 1492.5336 |
1312 | | 1493.2506 | Usually I do | 1493.9928 |
1314 | | 1494.3040 | cook, uh, | 1494.7067 |
1316 | | 1495.1957 | breakfast and dinner. I did start | 1496.8250 |
1318 | | 1496.9918 | giving my husband toast and coffee and jam. | 1499.0492 |
1320 | | 1501.7105 | And that was about it. | 1502.6999 |
1322 | | 1503.5603 | Fooled around | 1504.4634 |
1324 | | 1504.9027 | so much of the times, it's so many little foolish things that I couldn't even mention 'em. | 1508.6480 |
1325 | DTA_int_01 | 1508.9470 | Yeah. | 1509.1911 |
1327 | | 1509.9142 | Um, | 1510.1768 |
1329 | | 1510.5335 | did- | 1510.7410 |
1331 | | 1511.0095 | is there a special, uh, name you have for your neighborhood? | 1513.1796 |
1333 | | 1513.3962 | Do you have a s- | 1513.9607 |
1335 | | 1514.1499 | a, uh. | 1514.5961 |
1336 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1515.2551 | Yes, I call this down in the corner. | 1517.4649 |
1337 | DTA_int_01 | 1517.9409 | Mm-hm. | 1518.2355 |
1339 | | 1518.4687 | What- why do you call it that? | 1519.4451 |
1340 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1520.0919 | Well we're right in the corner | 1521.8174 |
1342 | | 1522.6678 | of Highland Park | 1523.8616 |
1344 | | 1524.5053 | and Detroit. | 1525.2040 |
1345 | DTA_int_01 | 1525.3993 | Uh-huh. | 1525.6924 |
1346 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1525.9267 | Did you notice, Highland Park is right across the street [over there?] | 1528.3566 |
1347 | DTA_int_01 | 1527.8530 | [/I just assumed/] | 1528.5946 |
1348 | | 1528.7043 | private residence. | 1529.3917 |
1349 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1529.5137 | Uh, well that's- | 1530.4046 |
1351 | | 1530.7189 | we call it- [I call] it down the corner. Now I- | 1532.8158 |
1352 | DTA_int_01 | 1531.2156 | [This.] | 1531.4878 |
1353 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1533.3375 | I got this term from a- | 1535.1010 |
1355 | | 1535.2689 | from some people that live in the south. | 1536.9386 |
1356 | DTA_int_01 | 1537.3169 | Mm-hm. | 1537.5488 |
1357 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1537.6617 | And they had a little section there that they called down in the corner. | 1541.2078 |
1358 | DTA_int_01 | 1541.5229 | Oh. | 1541.7623 |
1359 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1542.1758 | So I call this down in the [corner.] | 1544.2505 |
1360 | DTA_int_01 | 1543.8600 | [Do a lot of-] | 1544.2330 |
1361 | | 1544.3917 | quite a few other people call it the same thing? | 1546.1593 |
1362 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1546.8844 | No. I don't think, uh, | 1549.1150 |
1364 | | 1549.9546 | I've heard anybody else call it | 1551.5755 |
1366 | | 1551.6792 | by any name. | 1552.5335 |
1368 | | 1552.7593 | That I paid any attention to. | 1554.1331 |
1369 | DTA_int_01 | 1554.2704 | Hm. | 1554.4840 |
1370 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1555.5976 | My next door neighbors are original | 1557.6772 |
1372 | | 1558.2803 | people here. They | 1559.3787 |
1374 | | 1559.9195 | moved in here when the neighborhood started up. | 1562.0156 |
1376 | | 1563.3101 | And, uh, she's determined to die over there. She won't move. | 1566.4473 |
1377 | DTA_int_01 | 1566.7860 | /Yeah/. | 1567.0423 |
1378 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1567.8112 | So. | 1568.3581 |
1379 | DTA_int_01 | 1568.3764 | What are the boundaries of, | 1569.2476 |
1381 | | 1569.5694 | well, down in the corner? | 1570.5579 |
1383 | | 1570.7685 | <laugh> | 1570.9790 |
1384 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1571.7639 | Well to me it starts right here with this corner and works up, because at this point here | 1576.6098 |
1386 | | 1577.1010 | we're the closest to Highland Park, but then it cuts right across all the way up to where you're at Six Mile Road and Log Cabin, the next street over. | 1583.7029 |
1387 | DTA_int_01 | 1583.8493 | Oh. | 1584.1117 |
1388 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1584.5419 | You're still in Highland Park. | 1585.8295 |
1389 | DTA_int_01 | 1586.1071 | Oh. | 1586.4527 |
1390 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1586.8280 | So this is really | 1587.7128 |
1392 | | 1587.8104 | to me the corner, although it | 1589.0278 |
1394 | | 1589.2566 | does go widen out a little further. | 1591.3413 |
1396 | | 1591.4756 | But I'm only thinking from this street, up. | 1593.2399 |
1397 | DTA_int_01 | 1593.9020 | I see. | 1594.3243 |
1399 | | 1595.3184 | Um, | 1595.6876 |
1401 | | 1595.8829 | and | 1596.1514 |
1403 | | 1596.2704 | how- y- you say the name of | 1597.6342 |
1405 | | 1597.8356 | the city you live in? | 1598.7486 |
1406 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1599.6548 | Detroit. | 1600.3035 |
1407 | DTA_int_01 | 1601.5351 | /Heard ?/ tell us, | 1602.1890 |
1409 | | 1602.2826 | from Pennsylvania says Detroit. | 1603.9058 |
1411 | | 1604.3360 | <laugh> | 1604.5900 |
1412 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1604.7486 | Oh, a lot of people call it, | 1605.9233 |
1414 | | 1606.1857 | let's see. | 1606.6495 |
1416 | | 1606.9576 | Detroit like they say /Dias Sonara/ | 1609.4420 |
1418 | | 1609.5457 | [<laugh>] | 1611.1674 |
1419 | DTA_int_01 | 1610.0003 | [Yeah.] | 1610.2544 |
1421 | | 1610.3856 | [<laugh>] | 1610.8249 |
1422 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1612.4298 | [This always] amuses us. We | 1614.1453 |
1423 | DTA_int_01 | 1612.5823 | [Um.] | 1612.9350 |
1424 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1615.2742 | get the habit of | 1616.2102 |
1426 | | 1617.3680 | mimicking people and- | 1618.5701 |
1428 | | 1619.0095 | there goes that /Dias Sonara/ bus. | 1621.1765 |
1430 | | 1621.3840 | [<laugh>] | 1622.3739 |
1431 | DTA_int_01 | 1621.4725 | [<laugh>] | 1622.2871 |
1432 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1622.5229 | We know it's D, S and R. | 1624.1003 |
1433 | DTA_int_01 | 1624.2925 | [Uh-huh.] | 1624.6945 |
1434 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1624.4237 | [<laugh>] | 1624.7357 |
1435 | DTA_int_01 | 1626.0202 | Um, what are some of the- | 1626.9080 |
1437 | | 1627.0749 | the main streets in Detroit? | 1628.4527 |
1438 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1629.1453 | Oh, Woodward Avenue is the main street. | 1631.0980 |
1440 | | 1631.2292 | And of course you have0 um, | 1632.7433 |
1442 | | 1634.1376 | you could consider Jefferson in as much as it runs all the way to Port Huron, but I'd say Gratiot. | 1638.9660 |
1444 | | 1639.1887 | And, um, | 1640.2261 |
1446 | | 1642.3352 | Michigan Avenue. | 1643.4222 |
1447 | DTA_int_01 | 1645.2925 | The one down by Cobo Hall is? | 1646.7486 |
1448 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1647.5358 | That's Jefferson. | 1648.4694 |
1449 | DTA_int_01 | 1648.7562 | Uh-huh. | 1648.9942 |
1450 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1649.6144 | At Washington Boulevard. | 1650.9080 |
1451 | DTA_int_01 | 1653.0568 | An- any others | 1654.0392 |
1453 | | 1654.9179 | that you know? | 1655.2940 |
1454 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1657.9118 | [Well if you wanna count] Grand Boulevard that runs all the away the city. Or Eight Mile Road and Outer Drive. | 1664.0003 |
1455 | DTA_int_01 | 1658.0613 | [/There's one that up-/.] | 1659.2643 |
1456 | | 1664.2011 | Oh, | 1664.5537 |
1458 | | 1664.7395 | and Grand Boulevard runs all the way around? | 1666.0636 |
1459 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1666.2772 | Yeah, well in- in- | 1667.5778 |
1461 | | 1667.8920 | on the inside, you see. It, uh, runs around from, um, | 1671.2551 |
1463 | | 1672.2589 | about half way up. At one time that was the end of the city. | 1675.6220 |
1464 | DTA_int_01 | 1675.7959 | Oh. | 1676.1651 |
1465 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1676.2849 | And, uh, it | 1677.0141 |
1467 | | 1677.2429 | just sort of makes a- | 1679.0339 |
1469 | | 1680.6883 | a circle around in- | 1681.8386 |
1471 | | 1682.4496 | inside the three mile r- | 1683.8440 |
1473 | | 1683.9904 | uh, limit. | 1684.7837 |
1474 | DTA_int_01 | 1685.2177 | Hm. | 1685.4466 |
1475 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1686.3436 | But that's | 1686.9433 |
1477 | | 1687.2406 | a good three miles from here. (laughing) | 1688.7761 |
1478 | DTA_int_01 | 1688.8585 | Oh, I see. | 1689.5266 |
1480 | | 1690.5548 | Hm. | 1690.7715 |
1482 | | 1690.8630 | That's interesting [to know.] | 1691.7625 |
1483 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1691.5869 | [Mm-hm.] | 1691.9347 |
1484 | DTA_int_01 | 1692.1605 | I'm not that familiar with Detroit, [so I'll keep these things in mind.] | 1694.6650 |
1485 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1693.3779 | [You're not?] | 1693.8844 |
1487 | | 1693.9637 | [Mm-hm.] | 1694.4313 |
1488 | | 1694.6998 | <laugh> | 1695.1514 |
1489 | DTA_int_01 | 1695.5327 | What about the big- | 1696.2009 |
1491 | | 1696.5391 | the big, uh, | 1697.2352 |
1492 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1697.7700 | The main arteries? | 1698.6853 |
1493 | DTA_int_01 | 1698.6853 | Mm-hm. | 1698.9843 |
1494 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1699.2162 | That's what I mean m- | 1700.1132 |
1496 | | 1700.2657 | uh, Woodward Avenue would be your main north and south. | 1702.7837 |
1497 | DTA_int_01 | 1703.0217 | Mm-hm. | 1703.3032 |
1498 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1703.6601 | And then, [uh,] | 1704.5297 |
1499 | DTA_int_01 | 1704.1697 | [Well what about] there are some, | 1705.0392 |
1500 | | 1705.4236 | uh, | 1705.7318 |
1502 | | 1705.8477 | four- four and five lane. | 1707.0385 |
1504 | | 1707.8287 | You know, | 1708.0819 |
1506 | | 1708.5823 | [the-] | 1708.8261 |
1507 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1708.7013 | [Oh,] mean [the expressways?] | 1710.1086 |
1508 | DTA_int_01 | 1709.0987 | [limited access-] | 1709.7742 |
1509 | | 1710.1086 | Uh-huh. | 1710.3466 |
1510 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1710.7982 | Oh, we have, uh, John C Lodge. | 1713.1239 |
1512 | | 1713.8867 | We have the Edsel Ford. | 1715.2230 |
1514 | | 1715.9561 | Of course, the John C Lodge goes into, um, | 1718.9515 |
1516 | | 1719.9995 | James Couzens. | 1721.2017 |
1517 | DTA_int_01 | 1721.4740 | Mm-hm. | 1721.7211 |
1518 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1722.7097 | Uh, the Chrysler. Those are the only ones that we have right in the city of Detroit. | 1726.2802 |
1519 | DTA_int_01 | 1726.4877 | Mm-hm. | 1726.7349 |
1520 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1727.2688 | They're all apart of that I-ninety-four. | 1728.9740 |
1521 | DTA_int_01 | 1729.2497 | Oh. | 1729.4573 |
1523 | | 1730.4343 | Um, | 1730.7115 |
1525 | | 1730.9622 | see, uh- where were you born? | 1731.9599 |
1527 | | 1732.0484 | Mm. | 1732.2802 |
1528 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1732.6769 | In South Carolina. | 1733.8218 |
1529 | DTA_int_01 | 1733.8798 | Mm-hm. | 1734.1265 |
1531 | | 1734.5297 | And, | 1734.7982 |
1533 | | 1735.1918 | uh, where else have you lived in Detroit, here? | 1737.0523 |
1534 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1739.0766 | Oh, I've lived- lived on | 1740.3985 |
1536 | | 1740.7494 | <laugh> | 1741.2894 |
1538 | | 1741.7318 | North Side. | 1742.7639 |
1540 | | 1743.5815 | This is the north | 1744.3980 |
1542 | | 1744.7409 | west side, I've l- lived in, um, | 1746.6304 |
1544 | | 1747.1277 | Ferndale which is much further out. | 1749.0187 |
1545 | DTA_int_01 | 1749.4229 | Mm-hm. | 1749.6841 |
1546 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1749.9355 | I've lived, um, | 1751.0735 |
1548 | | 1751.4893 | almost directly across | 1753.3565 |
1550 | | 1754.0369 | on the East Side. | 1755.2051 |
1552 | | 1755.3283 | Um, | 1756.1979 |
1554 | | 1758.5663 | then I've lived | 1759.2467 |
1556 | | 1759.8233 | further south on the East Side, almost downtown. | 1762.9454 |
1558 | | 1763.7455 | I've lived on the West Side further south. | 1765.7196 |
1560 | | 1766.5198 | But it wouldn't be almost downtown, it would still be within that three mile circle. Um, | 1770.9355 |
1561 | DTA_int_01 | 1772.4069 | Hm. | 1772.5825 |
1563 | | 1773.1727 | So you've | 1773.4557 |
1565 | | 1774.1307 | moved around? | 1774.6494 |
1566 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1775.0979 | [Mm-hm.] | 1775.3359 |
1567 | DTA_int_01 | 1775.2291 | [Um,] | 1775.4570 |
1568 | | 1775.6204 | where else have you lived about? Let's say outside of Detroit. | 1777.9332 |
1570 | | 1778.5076 | [/inaudible/.] | 1778.9652 |
1571 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1778.7364 | [Brighton,] Michigan. | 1779.7158 |
1572 | DTA_int_01 | 1779.9141 | Mm-hm. | 1780.1768 |
1573 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1781.3519 | For, um, | 1782.4622 |
1575 | | 1784.2940 | I guess about three years we lived in Brighton, Michigan. | 1786.6525 |
1577 | | 1787.4008 | Course we were in, now Detroit, so much until you couldn't say that we lived in Brighton, Michigan. | 1791.4521 |
1578 | DTA_int_01 | 1791.6975 | <laugh> | 1792.0483 |
1580 | | 1792.9179 | Is that right on the edge of East Detroit? | 1794.3773 |
1581 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1794.3863 | No, it's twenty-seven miles out. | 1796.0643 |
1582 | DTA_int_01 | 1796.2352 | Oh. | 1796.4282 |
1583 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1797.5429 | We were on a lake out there. We had a cottage out there. We | 1800.5934 |
1585 | | 1801.1795 | moved out there with the idea of staying out there. | 1803.8295 |
1587 | | 1804.2558 | And, uh, | 1805.1406 |
1589 | | 1806.8622 | the war came along. (laughing) | 1808.0827 |
1590 | DTA_int_01 | 1808.3702 | Hm. | 1808.6723 |
1591 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1808.8920 | So we had to come back. | 1809.7554 |
1592 | DTA_int_01 | 1810.7409 | [/As you were/.] | 1811.3635 |
1593 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1810.9179 | [We could get-] we could get tires for one car and gas for another car. | 1814.8645 |
1594 | | 1815.1300 | But we couldn't get tires and gas for two cars, so | 1817.5777 |
1595 | DTA_int_01 | 1817.7974 | Mm. | 1818.0384 |
1596 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1819.2406 | we had to come back in. | 1820.2108 |
1597 | DTA_int_01 | 1820.7791 | What- where have you gone on trips? | 1822.2863 |
1598 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1822.7867 | [Oh.] | 1823.3733 |
1599 | DTA_int_01 | 1823.3458 | [To] see family, or. | 1824.2151 |
1600 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1825.2894 | I've been as far south as South Carolina. | 1828.0551 |
1602 | | 1829.3153 | I've been as far sout- | 1830.6364 |
1604 | | 1830.8012 | n- west | 1831.5090 |
1606 | | 1832.2810 | as Wyoming, I guess. | 1833.9568 |
1608 | | 1834.2222 | Denver, Colorado. | 1835.4274 |
1610 | | 1836.4076 | Uh, down to, um, | 1837.8996 |
1612 | | 1838.5167 | Las Vegas, Nevada. | 1839.7859 |
1614 | | 1841.3245 | U- um, | 1842.1110 |
1616 | | 1843.5060 | I've been to New York. | 1844.5596 |
1618 | | 1848.2001 | I guess that's it. | 1849.0880 |
1619 | DTA_int_01 | 1849.2924 | Mm-hm. | 1849.5426 |
1621 | | 1850.9316 | How does you family celebrate the- the holidays? Let's say for example, [Christmas.] | 1854.3530 |
1622 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1854.2886 | [Stay] at home. Oh, the Christmas holidays we- | 1857.0053 |
1623 | | 1857.2581 | conventional manner. | 1858.3931 |
1625 | | 1858.6402 | Christmas tree, Santa Claus, and all the trimmings. | 1861.5792 |
1627 | | 1862.7211 | Um, | 1863.3422 |
1629 | | 1863.6852 | the rest of the holidays we usually stay at home because the | 1866.4045 |
1631 | | 1867.0819 | traffic is a little more than we like to take. We very seldom go out on a holiday. | 1871.0857 |
1632 | DTA_int_01 | 1871.2626 | Mm-hm. | 1871.5197 |
1634 | | 1872.5083 | Are there any special, uh, | 1873.5914 |
1636 | | 1874.0529 | foods that you eat? | 1874.9011 |
1637 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1875.6425 | On a [holiday?] | 1876.3860 |
1638 | DTA_int_01 | 1876.1539 | [Uh, yeah,] or /??/. | 1877.2589 |
1639 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1877.3054 | Oh, at Easter | 1878.3557 |
1641 | | 1878.7219 | it's always ham. | 1879.8263 |
1642 | DTA_int_01 | 1880.0560 | Mm-hm. | 1880.3062 |
1643 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1881.5113 | At Christmas it's usually ham again. | 1883.9835 |
1644 | DTA_int_01 | 1884.1299 | Mm-hm. | 1884.4076 |
1645 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1885.1734 | But, uh, at Thanksgiving we give in to the turkey. Although- | 1888.4503 |
1647 | | 1888.9392 | well the youngsters like fowl, but I don't. | 1891.0422 |
1648 | DTA_int_01 | 1891.4358 | Mm-hm. | 1891.7134 |
1649 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1891.9484 | I can't stand chickens. | 1893.1971 |
1650 | DTA_int_01 | 1894.2619 | Hm. | 1894.5188 |
1652 | | 1895.7333 | Um, | 1896.0537 |
1654 | | 1896.7314 | uh- what- when do the children | 1897.8471 |
1656 | | 1898.1583 | open their gifts and so forth? | 1899.8073 |
1657 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1899.9537 | Uh, | 1900.5029 |
1659 | | 1900.6219 | that's always Christmas morning. | 1901.9798 |
1660 | DTA_int_01 | 1902.1574 | Christmas morning. | 1902.6003 |
1661 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1902.7768 | Mm-hm. | 1903.1551 |
1662 | DTA_int_01 | 1904.5563 | Um, | 1904.8279 |
1664 | | 1905.1879 | now I- | 1905.7554 |
1666 | | 1905.9751 | you became | 1906.5731 |
1668 | | 1906.7684 | a Catholic later. | 1907.5838 |
1670 | | 1907.8248 | Do you remember your first communion? | 1909.2093 |
1671 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1910.2779 | [Yes.] | 1910.7821 |
1672 | DTA_int_01 | 1910.2779 | [Can you tell me about] that? | 1911.0616 |
1673 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1911.1696 | Mm, well it wasn't a u- wasn't a very eventful thing. I- | 1914.6883 |
1675 | | 1915.4236 | it was on the eighth of December. | 1917.3679 |
1677 | | 1918.4114 | And I went to the cathedral | 1920.1360 |
1679 | | 1921.4022 | and | 1921.7653 |
1681 | | 1921.9789 | in with a bunch of people, I received my first communion. | 1924.4694 |
1683 | | 1924.7470 | My husband was with me. | 1925.7669 |
1684 | DTA_int_01 | 1926.0445 | Mm-hm. | 1926.3038 |
1685 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1926.8012 | But that was all. | 1927.3382 |
1686 | DTA_int_01 | 1927.8843 | Mm. | 1928.0216 |
1688 | | 1929.0170 | Um, | 1929.3282 |
1690 | | 1930.5121 | what- | 1930.7965 |
1692 | | 1931.2718 | oh, let's see that's more for children. | 1932.7981 |
1694 | | 1933.6996 | You remember at the end of October there's this | 1935.8678 |
1696 | | 1936.7684 | day that the | 1937.2545 |
1698 | | 1937.5319 | kids like [s-] | 1938.3382 |
1699 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1938.1238 | [Halloween?] | 1938.8828 |
1700 | DTA_int_01 | 1939.0391 | uh-huh. | 1939.3259 |
1701 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1939.8843 | [Mm-hm.] | 1940.2809 |
1702 | DTA_int_01 | 1940.0613 | [Um,] and- | 1940.6692 |
1703 | | 1941.2428 | uh, we used to make, um, | 1942.2892 |
1705 | | 1942.9880 | jack-o-lanterns out of | 1943.9438 |
1707 | | 1944.0567 | what? | 1944.3618 |
1708 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1945.2619 | Pumpkins. | 1945.9331 |
1709 | DTA_int_01 | 1946.1314 | Uh-huh. | 1946.4587 |
1711 | | 1946.8675 | And, uh, | 1947.3740 |
1713 | | 1947.6211 | the- | 1947.8866 |
1715 | | 1948.4999 | the woman who used to ride around on the broomstick would be a? | 1950.7340 |
1716 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1950.9598 | A witch. | 1951.5113 |
1717 | DTA_int_01 | 1951.6371 | Uh-huh. | 1951.9114 |
1719 | | 1952.6051 | Um, | 1952.8980 |
1721 | | 1953.2581 | now, | 1953.5662 |
1723 | | 1953.6852 | when you went from- | 1954.3168 |
1725 | | 1954.5517 | I don't know if- did you used to go, um, | 1956.0964 |
1727 | | 1956.3740 | from door to [door?] | 1957.0532 |
1728 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1956.8957 | [Trick] or treat? No, in my day you didn't go trick or treat. | 1959.8713 |
1729 | DTA_int_01 | 1960.1703 | Uh-huh. | 1960.4297 |
1731 | | 1961.0429 | [But did-] | 1961.2970 |
1732 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1961.0926 | [It was] all trick. [<laugh>] | 1962.7889 |
1733 | DTA_int_01 | 1962.2062 | [<laugh>] | 1962.8164 |
1734 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1963.1520 | [And so] I stood on the porch and watched the tricks. | 1965.7005 |
1735 | DTA_int_01 | 1963.1673 | [<laugh>.] | 1963.4662 |
1736 | | 1965.9720 | Uh-huh. | 1966.2588 |
1738 | | 1966.7989 | What- what are some of the things that you would do? | 1968.5205 |
1740 | | 1968.8866 | Was this? | 1969.2595 |
1741 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1969.7409 | That's all I would do was stand and watch. | 1971.9831 |
1742 | DTA_int_01 | 1972.1519 | Uh-huh. | 1972.4494 |
1744 | | 1973.0673 | Um, | 1973.3824 |
1746 | | 1974.2031 | now | 1974.5266 |
1748 | | 1974.9568 | did y- you never rang doorbells or [anything?] | 1976.8889 |
1749 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1976.2909 | [No, uh-uh.] I didn't. Uh, the youngsters here do. | 1979.2565 |
1750 | DTA_int_01 | 1979.4495 | Uh-huh. | 1979.7089 |
1752 | | 1980.0902 | [What do they] say here when they- | 1981.0971 |
1753 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1980.1086 | [But.] | 1980.3234 |
1754 | | 1981.1886 | They say trick or treat. | 1982.2321 |
1755 | DTA_int_01 | 1982.5105 | Uh-huh. | 1982.7638 |
1757 | | 1983.7859 | And, um, | 1984.2822 |
1759 | | 1985.5197 | did- | 1985.7577 |
1761 | | 1985.9865 | you didn't have a- a special night before | 1987.8995 |
1763 | | 1988.2290 | Halloween | 1988.7181 |
1765 | | 1989.1543 | [did you?] | 1989.4315 |
1766 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1989.2794 | [No.] | 1989.8347 |
1767 | | 1989.9537 | Uh-uh, I know that they do have but, uh, | 1992.5815 |
1768 | DTA_int_01 | 1992.7523 | Nothing like Devil's [Night, or?] | 1993.7866 |
1769 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1993.6371 | [I was] an only child and a rather | 1995.4137 |
1770 | | 1995.5510 | closely guarded one. | 1996.7584 |
1771 | DTA_int_01 | 1997.0155 | Uh-huh. | 1997.2622 |
1772 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 1997.6722 | And my mother didn't | 1998.9232 |
1774 | | 1999.1703 | let me feel that these were things that were necessary | 2001.7828 |
1776 | | 2002.3259 | to your happiness. And so consequently, I just watched the rest. | 2005.3473 |
1778 | | 2006.0978 | And that was all I wanted to do. I never wanted to get in the /middle/. | 2008.7823 |
1779 | DTA_int_01 | 2009.1650 | Hm. | 2009.4404 |
1781 | | 2011.1123 | Um, | 2011.4388 |
1783 | | 2012.0368 | now when- | 2012.5868 |
1785 | | 2013.0689 | when- | 2013.3099 |
1787 | | 2013.7188 | here's the- the next section is- has to do with fighting, illness, and accidents, and so forth. | 2017.9087 |
1789 | | 2018.3175 | Um, when fights | 2019.5326 |
1791 | | 2019.6913 | will start around here, what do they usually start about? | 2021.6294 |
1793 | | 2021.7154 | What- what do kids fight about? | 2022.8591 |
1794 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2023.3534 | In this house? | 2024.2321 |
1795 | DTA_int_01 | 2024.4526 | Well, in this house or in the neighborhood. | 2026.4419 |
1797 | | 2026.9788 | <laugh> | 2027.2504 |
1799 | | 2027.7333 | Probably in the neighborhood. | 2028.5998 |
1800 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2028.7676 | Oh, murder. | 2029.8705 |
1802 | | 2030.8339 | Anything. | 2031.4930 |
1803 | DTA_int_01 | 2031.9537 | Uh-huh. | 2032.2657 |
1804 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2033.0185 | Um, | 2033.6295 |
1806 | | 2037.3648 | what can be a /??/? | 2038.5564 |
1808 | | 2041.1856 | There's always a m- | 2042.0374 |
1810 | | 2042.2626 | um, background behind the thing that starts a fight. | 2045.4678 |
1811 | DTA_int_01 | 2045.7424 | Mm-hm. | 2046.0261 |
1812 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2046.5021 | And that usually is a matter of jealousy, so far as I have been able to see it. | 2050.6097 |
1814 | | 2051.7241 | Uh, /RD-NAME-1/ and /RD-NAME-2/ can fight over who's supposed to wash dishes. | 2055.5570 |
1815 | DTA_int_01 | 2055.7889 | Mm-hm. | 2056.0330 |
1816 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2056.9605 | Uh, | 2057.6051 |
1818 | | 2058.2123 | with the neighbors when they get into it, it's usually who said what. | 2061.1969 |
1819 | DTA_int_01 | 2061.8103 | Uh-huh. | 2062.1428 |
1820 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2065.6158 | It's usually nothing. | 2066.7943 |
1821 | DTA_int_01 | 2067.0017 | Uh-huh. | 2067.2977 |
1823 | | 2068.3320 | Um, | 2068.6280 |
1825 | | 2068.8965 | alright- | 2069.1417 |
1827 | | 2069.2473 | now when they- | 2069.8614 |
1829 | | 2070.0414 | when they fight at, do they have any- | 2071.4083 |
1831 | | 2072.0802 | let's say they really get mad at each other, they- do they have any rules for well- what they would call a fair fight? | 2076.6821 |
1832 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2076.8835 | Oh, no. No, no. All's fair in love and war. | 2079.4167 |
1833 | DTA_int_01 | 2079.6211 | [<laugh>] | 2080.3106 |
1834 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2080.2161 | [And] when they're fighting, that's war. | 2081.5441 |
1835 | DTA_int_01 | 2081.7271 | Uh-huh. | 2082.0217 |
1837 | | 2083.2649 | But d- they have some restrictions. I mean, they don't- | 2085.1726 |
1839 | | 2086.3038 | they don't use certain | 2087.2529 |
1841 | | 2088.2245 | uh, I mean, would- | 2089.1886 |
1843 | | 2089.7347 | they- they wouldn't use knives or anything like [this, /??/?] | 2091.7977 |
1844 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2091.5723 | [No,] no knives. No | 2092.9758 |
1845 | | 2093.2504 | nothing [like that. Just] their fist. | 2094.9079 |
1846 | DTA_int_01 | 2093.8278 | [<laugh>] | 2094.2516 |
1847 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2095.6707 | They better not. | 2096.4983 |
1848 | DTA_int_01 | 2097.0841 | Uh-huh. | 2097.3953 |
1850 | | 2098.2527 | Um, | 2098.5791 |
1851 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2099.0856 | This wasn't kosher when I was a child. [<laugh>] | 2101.8242 |
1852 | DTA_int_01 | 2101.5334 | [<laugh>] | 2101.8242 |
1853 | | 2102.3946 | Yeah? | 2102.6688 |
1855 | | 2104.4357 | Um, | 2104.7988 |
1857 | | 2105.8522 | did- did you ever see anyone get beat up real bad? | 2108.2192 |
1858 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2109.0475 | No. | 2109.5177 |
1860 | | 2109.9903 | I never saw. | 2110.8324 |
1862 | | 2111.3358 | I've seen the police arrest a man once, and | 2113.9788 |
1864 | | 2114.8827 | um, | 2115.4411 |
1866 | | 2115.5570 | I don't know why | 2116.8293 |
1868 | | 2117.0673 | they were after the man | 2118.2580 |
1870 | | 2118.9201 | but they shot him. | 2120.0032 |
1872 | | 2120.1283 | And I saw this | 2121.3709 |
1874 | | 2121.4716 | because- and I almost s- was hit by the shot. | 2124.3465 |
1875 | DTA_int_01 | 2124.5692 | Hm. | 2124.7883 |
1876 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2125.7134 | For which my father was quite angry. | 2127.8316 |
1878 | | 2128.1029 | Cause he'd a log- | 2128.9777 |
1880 | | 2129.1802 | I was out with my- | 2130.1909 |
1882 | | 2131.1794 | a younger cousin of mine and we were just walking. And all of a sudden here it was a policeman on this side of us and the man on that side, and the policeman had shot him. | 2138.6020 |
1884 | | 2139.4075 | I don't know how we walked into it. | 2140.6768 |
1885 | DTA_int_01 | 2140.9025 | Hm. | 2141.0883 |
1887 | | 2142.6119 | Yeah. | 2142.8835 |
1889 | | 2143.9941 | Uh, did you ever get | 2144.7851 |
1891 | | 2144.9224 | into a fight with someone bigger than you when you were, say, in school? | 2147.8898 |
1892 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2148.6211 | Oh, yes. | 2149.4628 |
1893 | DTA_int_01 | 2150.1627 | And what happened? | 2150.9608 |
1894 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2151.2672 | Um, | 2151.9628 |
1896 | | 2152.4022 | the youngsters would, uh, corner you, | 2154.6089 |
1898 | | 2155.5852 | and the habit at that particular time was to put a chip on your shoulder. | 2159.0246 |
1900 | | 2160.2671 | And you were supposed to knock it- | 2161.6188 |
1902 | | 2162.4067 | I mean, they put one on your shoulder or- | 2164.2832 |
1904 | | 2164.6767 | I don't know it. I really don't know the rules of that game. | 2167.0269 |
1906 | | 2167.5516 | Because whenever the chip time came, they always had to chase me down. I was a coward. | 2171.3510 |
1907 | DTA_int_01 | 2171.5349 | Mm-hm. | 2171.8063 |
1908 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2171.9102 | If I could go through the basement of the school and come up and get out and get away from it, I would. | 2175.6607 |
1909 | DTA_int_01 | 2175.9506 | Mm-hm. | 2176.2313 |
1910 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2176.2557 | But once or twice I got caught. | 2177.6813 |
1912 | | 2178.7492 | And, uh, | 2179.6096 |
1914 | | 2180.1069 | they were supposed to put a chip on my shoulder, and the other person was supposed to knock it off, | 2184.7401 |
1916 | | 2185.5486 | and we were supposed to start the fight. | 2187.1268 |
1918 | | 2188.3076 | But because I was frightened- | 2189.6691 |
1920 | | 2190.0780 | no, I wasn't frightened. I was scared. | 2192.2625 |
1921 | DTA_int_01 | 2192.5715 | <laugh> | 2192.8922 |
1922 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2193.7065 | And I wouldn't allow them to a sh- | 2195.1802 |
1924 | | 2195.3785 | chip on my shoulder. You had to put the chip on your shoulder. | 2198.1069 |
1926 | | 2198.6295 | And then instead of knocking that chip off, I'd hit the person. | 2201.4922 |
1927 | DTA_int_01 | 2201.9315 | Uh-huh. | 2202.2214 |
1928 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2202.3953 | And then I would do what my daddy always said | 2204.5672 |
1930 | | 2205.1054 | to do. | 2205.4685 |
1932 | | 2206.0543 | He said, he that fights and runs away shall live to fight another [day.] (laughing) | 2209.6676 |
1933 | DTA_int_01 | 2209.5120 | [<laugh>] | 2209.7561 |
1934 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2209.8873 | And I would say, feet | 2210.8339 |
1936 | | 2211.0200 | take care /of all might/. | 2212.2618 |
1938 | | 2212.5791 | [<laugh>] | 2213.2206 |
1939 | DTA_int_01 | 2212.5791 | [<laugh>] | 2213.3121 |
1940 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2213.6966 | And they would. [And I'd fly.] | 2215.8628 |
1941 | DTA_int_01 | 2214.5448 | [<laugh>] | 2215.0604 |
1942 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2216.6633 | Get out of there. I lived in a neighborhood once that was rather rough. | 2219.6874 |
1943 | DTA_int_01 | 2219.9010 | Mm-hm. | 2220.1725 |
1944 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2220.3465 | And the youngsters thought that, um, | 2222.2542 |
1946 | | 2223.9292 | you had to show who was | 2225.1679 |
1948 | | 2226.1908 | the master of the situation. | 2227.8506 |
1950 | | 2228.6691 | And this called for a fight. | 2229.8987 |
1951 | DTA_int_01 | 2230.1916 | Hm. | 2230.4326 |
1952 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2230.5608 | Whether you were a boy or girl, you had to | 2232.4288 |
1954 | | 2233.4113 | prove it. | 2233.7682 |
1955 | DTA_int_01 | 2234.0825 | Hm. | 2234.2473 |
1956 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2234.4799 | Because some of the languages they use and things that they did were things that I wasn't used to in the neighborhoods that I always lived in. | 2240.1405 |
1958 | | 2241.4654 | And for a brief spell I had to learn to take care of me. | 2244.8316 |
1959 | DTA_int_01 | 2245.2160 | Mm-hm. | 2245.5364 |
1960 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2246.6142 | And I would always do it that way, you know. | 2248.4899 |
1961 | DTA_int_01 | 2248.8537 | Hm. | 2249.0795 |
1962 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2249.4494 | Chips had to put some place, they'd put it on somebody else's shoulder, not on mine. | 2253.5812 |
1963 | DTA_int_01 | 2253.9963 | [<laugh>] | 2254.4601 |
1964 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2254.3289 | [And then] I'd just proceed to hit the other fella, and he'd- | 2256.9170 |
1965 | | 2257.3441 | while he was getting up off the ground, I would be getting out of the way. | 2260.1885 |
1966 | DTA_int_01 | 2260.3777 | <laugh> | 2261.1382 |
1968 | | 2262.8987 | I think you learned to handle yourself quite nicely. | 2264.6410 |
1969 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2264.6719 | [Mm-hm.] | 2265.2183 |
1970 | DTA_int_01 | 2265.1207 | [<laugh>] | 2265.5478 |
1971 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2266.4723 | I could run very fast. | 2268.0200 |
1973 | | 2269.3808 | Quite a runner. | 2270.1435 |
1974 | DTA_int_01 | 2271.1451 | Um, | 2271.4898 |
1976 | | 2272.1641 | uh, have you ever been in the hospital? | 2273.5410 |
1977 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2274.2122 | Oh, yes. | 2274.9780 |
1978 | DTA_int_01 | 2275.7042 | Can you tell- | 2276.2106 |
1980 | | 2276.5013 | well, say, | 2277.1085 |
1982 | | 2277.8163 | [uh,] | 2278.0787 |
1983 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2277.9750 | [You] don't wanna hear that. | 2278.8941 |
1984 | DTA_int_01 | 2278.9612 | [well,] | 2279.2529 |
1985 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2279.1443 | [<laugh>] | 2279.9528 |
1986 | DTA_int_01 | 2280.0444 | say it- | 2280.4540 |
1988 | | 2280.7705 | the first time you were ever in the hospital, what were your first impressions. | 2283.3247 |
1990 | | 2283.5612 | Do you remember that? | 2284.4069 |
1991 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2285.3449 | Oh, the first time was for ton- for a tonsillectomy. | 2288.1496 |
1993 | | 2289.3434 | And, um, | 2290.4265 |
1995 | | 2293.3350 | I wasn't frightened, I trusted everyone there. | 2296.2129 |
1997 | | 2297.2938 | So | 2297.7942 |
1999 | | 2298.8987 | impressions were a | 2300.2778 |
2001 | | 2300.4281 | bunch of other folks laying up in bed | 2302.1368 |
2003 | | 2302.9543 | that didn't seem to be ill, and I didn't feel that I was going to be ill. | 2306.3457 |
2005 | | 2306.7759 | And I really wasn't, because in | 2308.2923 |
2007 | | 2308.6492 | those days it- | 2309.1771 |
2009 | | 2310.4105 | you came in the morning and they | 2312.1649 |
2011 | | 2312.4212 | operated the next morning, and you went home the next. | 2314.8323 |
2012 | DTA_int_01 | 2314.9208 | Mm-hm. | 2315.2167 |
2013 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2315.5714 | So that was it was to it. | 2316.7522 |
2014 | DTA_int_01 | 2317.2129 | Hm. | 2317.5302 |
2015 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2317.9482 | But I have spent some- | 2319.0474 |
2017 | | 2319.5600 | as my oldest daughter, she's brought a new word home. | 2322.1008 |
2019 | | 2322.6027 | She calls it horrendous. | 2324.0276 |
2021 | | 2324.7423 | I have spent some horrendous times in the hospital since. [<laugh>] | 2328.2762 |
2022 | DTA_int_01 | 2327.3243 | [<laugh>] | 2328.0993 |
2023 | | 2329.0634 | Um, | 2329.3563 |
2025 | | 2329.8323 | when a- | 2330.1191 |
2027 | | 2330.2777 | when a person, | 2330.9132 |
2029 | | 2331.7217 | uh, is- | 2332.5882 |
2031 | | 2332.7926 | well, | 2333.0428 |
2033 | | 2333.7148 | sick. He has a- | 2334.6546 |
2035 | | 2334.9231 | he has a cold, | 2335.4875 |
2037 | | 2335.9696 | and | 2336.4341 |
2039 | | 2336.6630 | if that person comes around then you might be afraid of, | 2338.7408 |
2041 | | 2339.0703 | um, what? | 2339.5135 |
2042 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2340.3037 | Catching it? | 2340.7461 |
2043 | DTA_int_01 | 2341.2617 | Uh-huh. | 2341.6579 |
2044 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2341.7621 | Catching the cold. Is that what you mean? | 2343.2731 |
2045 | DTA_int_01 | 2343.3464 | Yeah. | 2343.5728 |
2047 | | 2343.7217 | Uh-huh. | 2343.9780 |
2049 | | 2344.7163 | Um, | 2345.1099 |
2051 | | 2347.0054 | let's see. Have you ever been in a- in a situation where you thought you might get killed or you might die? | 2350.7830 |
2052 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2353.8384 | Well I'm terribly afraid of flying and every time I get in an airplane, I- | 2358.3617 |
2054 | | 2359.7682 | take it for better or for worse. | 2361.1542 |
2056 | | 2363.0489 | But, I'm not panicked. | 2364.3769 |
2058 | | 2365.5333 | Uh, I don't think I've ever been anywhere where I was really panicked. | 2368.5882 |
2060 | | 2370.6027 | I was on the Boblo Boat once when the- | 2372.9009 |
2062 | | 2373.4929 | a storm blew up | 2374.4906 |
2064 | | 2375.3876 | and they had to pull the boat out from the shore. | 2377.2831 |
2066 | | 2379.1023 | But | 2379.2671 |
2068 | | 2380.0115 | I really wasn't frightened at that time. | 2381.8521 |
2069 | DTA_int_01 | 2382.1725 | Mm-hm. | 2382.4593 |
2070 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2384.0672 | But I am terribly afraid of fire. | 2385.6970 |
2071 | DTA_int_01 | 2385.9322 | Mm-hm. | 2386.1427 |
2072 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2387.0123 | And I've never been | 2387.9742 |
2074 | | 2388.9139 | in any place that was on fire, so. | 2390.9620 |
2076 | | 2391.9658 | I've | 2392.4539 |
2078 | | 2393.0855 | forgone that (laughing) | 2394.4806 |
2079 | DTA_int_01 | 2394.4806 | <laugh> | 2394.7985 |
2080 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2394.9536 | unpleasant experience. | 2396.4028 |
2081 | DTA_int_01 | 2396.6508 | Sometimes people say that- | 2397.6423 |
2083 | | 2397.8864 | uh, well when something happens to them they say, well | 2399.9803 |
2085 | | 2400.1572 | I could'nt've | 2400.7949 |
2087 | | 2401.0756 | prevented that. Whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen. | 2403.1938 |
2089 | | 2403.2915 | Uh, what do you say to this? | 2404.4417 |
2090 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2406.6484 | Well I sort of believe that | 2408.5287 |
2092 | | 2408.7057 | the will of God will be. | 2410.4356 |
2094 | | 2411.1462 | I just try to submit myself to his will. | 2414.0092 |
2095 | DTA_int_01 | 2414.2572 | Mm-hm. | 2414.5226 |
2096 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2415.4074 | That's all. | 2415.7491 |
2098 | | 2416.9085 | Now that's not just a Catholic philosophy, that's been my philosophy all along. | 2421.0260 |
2099 | DTA_int_01 | 2421.2610 | Mm-hm. | 2421.4379 |
2100 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2422.6767 | I'm not a fatalist, I don't think it's got to happen. | 2425.2922 |
2101 | DTA_int_01 | 2425.2922 | Mm-hm. | 2425.5897 |
2102 | DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 | 2426.2014 | But I do know that once you see the situation is set up, | 2429.2716 |
2104 | | 2430.3830 | then you- there's no necessity is trying to | 2432.4494 |
2106 | | 2433.3830 | do too much about it. | 2434.4204 |
2107 | DTA_int_01 | 2434.6950 | Mm-hm. | 2435.0060 |
2109 | | 2435.7758 | Okay. | 2436.1542 |