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1 | LES_int_01 | 0.3366 | Alright. | 0.7088 |
3 | | 1.0506 | So, it is September tenth, | 2.8446 |
5 | | 3.8575 | Okay. | 4.0467 |
7 | | 4.6813 | We're talking to /RD-NAME-4/. Did I say your last name right? | 7.6918 |
9 | | 8.5766 | So, I would ask you to like start at the beginning and tell me about kind of | 12.2282 |
11 | | 13.4359 | where you began. So, maybe you can start by just telling me when and where you were born. | 18.0193 |
12 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 18.8782 | Okay, | 19.2871 |
14 | | 19.8302 | I was | 20.2146 |
16 | | 20.3428 | born on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. | 23.3511 |
17 | LES_int_01 | 23.5220 | Alright. | 23.7722 |
18 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 24.4434 | And on | 25.9316 |
20 | | 26.1207 | um | 26.6533 |
22 | | 28.0917 | At /RD-ADDRESS-6/ | 29.4092 |
23 | LES_int_01 | 29.6899 | Okay. | 30.0621 |
24 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 30.1293 | right there on Fourteenth Street. | 31.2495 |
25 | LES_int_01 | 31.2495 | Okay. | 31.5267 |
26 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 32.2347 | And um. | 33.0524 |
27 | LES_int_01 | 35.0066 | I asked when. | 35.5784 |
28 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 35.6351 | When. Oh, [when. I was-] eh- February twenty-seventh. | 38.1305 |
29 | LES_int_01 | 36.1548 | [Yeah.] | 36.5046 |
30 | | 38.3624 | Uh-huh. | 38.6675 |
31 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 38.6675 | Nineteen Seventy-nine. | 39.5645 |
32 | LES_int_01 | 39.7171 | [Seventy-nine.] | 40.2352 |
33 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 40.0527 | [That] makes me twenty-nine years [old.] | 41.2243 |
34 | LES_int_01 | 41.1144 | [Twenty-nine.] | 41.7125 |
35 | | 41.8710 | Okay. | 42.1945 |
37 | | 42.3592 | I'm almost twenty-eight. | 43.2013 |
39 | | 43.3050 | So. | 43.5491 |
40 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 43.9946 | Mm-hm. | 44.4095 |
41 | LES_int_01 | 44.6522 | You're close. | 45.1525 |
42 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 45.3123 | Mm-hm. | 45.6651 |
43 | LES_int_01 | 45.9641 | Uh, so tell me about your family's history, like how did they end up living on the Lower East Side? | 50.7872 |
45 | | 51.6476 | What do your parents do? | 52.6850 |
46 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 52.8864 | Um. | 53.4283 |
48 | | 53.7822 | It's funny, both of my parents, um, not migrated, but yeah, kind of, from Harlem. | 57.7547 |
50 | | 58.1074 | [They came from.] | 58.9571 |
51 | LES_int_01 | 58.3590 | [Oh yeah.] | 59.0242 |
52 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 59.7869 | They came from Harlem. | 60.6261 |
53 | LES_int_01 | 60.6261 | Okay. | 60.9618 |
54 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 61.1692 | They were uh, one of those uh | 62.6765 |
56 | | 63.0121 | a lot of the families that were | 64.1351 |
58 | | 65.0687 | um | 65.5508 |
60 | | 65.9657 | looking to. | 66.9707 |
62 | | 68.3192 | Well- I what I understood it was that both my grandmothers were single mothers and they | 71.7059 |
63 | LES_int_01 | 71.8463 | Yeah. | 72.1941 |
64 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 72.3594 | trying to | 73.0611 |
66 | | 73.2320 | find more opportunities | 74.5317 |
68 | | 75.1993 | and uh, | 75.9377 |
70 | | 77.9209 | there was housing opportunities over here. | 79.7284 |
71 | LES_int_01 | 79.9298 | Yeah. | 80.2715 |
72 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 80.8390 | And so a lot of people. | 82.2104 |
74 | | 82.4072 | That's- I think- I can see like the history of it was like | 84.7346 |
76 | | 86.5775 | the more Jewish, the Jewish | 87.9505 |
78 | | 88.5058 | population was actually flocking to Queens and to the [suburbs.] | 91.6131 |
79 | LES_int_01 | 91.1798 | [Right,] they were leaving. | 92.2355 |
80 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 92.3209 | And then | 92.8274 |
82 | | 93.2546 | the Hispanic and la- and | 95.0334 |
84 | | 95.5948 | and Black | 96.4003 |
86 | | 97.0166 | um | 97.4620 |
88 | | 98.3590 | population started moving | 99.6440 |
90 | | 100.1749 | ma- like further down and spreading out [more.] | 102.0876 |
91 | LES_int_01 | 101.8835 | [Yeah.] | 102.2550 |
92 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 102.2496 | Because there was a- for housing opportunities and. | 104.2178 |
93 | LES_int_01 | 104.2178 | Right. | 104.6511 |
94 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 105.1259 | <ts> So I- both of my grandmothers | 106.5111 |
96 | | 106.6087 | simultaneously came | 107.6400 |
98 | | 108.1221 | to n- the Lower East Side. | 110.0442 |
99 | LES_int_01 | 110.2212 | Uh-huh. | 110.5710 |
100 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 110.7979 | Uh. | 111.3715 |
102 | | 113.1777 | And | 113.4767 |
104 | | 113.5866 | came | 113.9954 |
106 | | 114.3737 | to Loui- | 114.8009 |
108 | | 114.9168 | to Lower East Side from | 116.0719 |
110 | | 116.2062 | from the same neighborhoods in Harlem. | 117.5303 |
112 | | 118.4484 | [And so.] | 118.9427 |
113 | LES_int_01 | 118.5948 | [Did they] know each other? | 119.6063 |
114 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 119.7542 | No. | 120.1082 |
116 | | 120.3645 | And then it was funny because- or they knew of each other. | 122.5170 |
117 | LES_int_01 | 122.5170 | Okay. | 122.9198 |
118 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 122.9686 | And it's funny, then their children later on | 124.6406 |
120 | | 124.7809 | get together and have me. | 125.7390 |
122 | | 125.9159 | Right. | 126.1966 |
124 | | 126.3065 | But | 126.4651 |
125 | LES_int_01 | 126.4651 | Right. | 126.9838 |
126 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 127.2279 | they, um, | 127.8785 |
127 | LES_int_01 | 128.3605 | that's hilarious | 129.0989 |
128 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 129.2820 | So they knew each other for years, and them my mother and my father met | 131.8082 |
130 | | 132.4307 | just | 132.8273 |
132 | | 133.1629 | happenstance like lately | 134.3911 |
134 | | 134.4887 | you know, years later on. | 135.6542 |
135 | LES_int_01 | 135.8068 | Yeah. | 136.1973 |
136 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 136.6001 | [Um.] | 136.9540 |
137 | LES_int_01 | 136.6550 | [Did they] meet on the Lower East [Side?] | 138.0278 |
138 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 137.8997 | [Yeah.] | 138.1316 |
139 | | 138.3574 | They met on the Lower East Side. | 139.5595 |
140 | LES_int_01 | 139.6205 | Wow. | 140.0565 |
141 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 140.0565 | And actually, | 140.8193 |
142 | | 141.5271 | you can | 141.9125 |
144 | | 142.1261 | uh, | 142.5289 |
146 | | 142.8462 | on J- in Jackson Park, | 144.1032 |
147 | LES_int_01 | 144.3229 | Yeah. | 144.6585 |
148 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 144.7806 | there's a tree | 145.5738 |
150 | | 145.7142 | with their- their initials in it | 147.0501 |
152 | | 147.4345 | from when they were little kids. | 148.5623 |
153 | LES_int_01 | 148.7759 | Oh no. [That's so cute.] | 151.7049 |
154 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 149.7339 | [Yeah, they were high school sweethearts.] | 151.3693 |
155 | | 152.2480 | They were high school sweet hearts. | 153.0474 |
157 | | 153.2976 | And they not together now. | 154.3601 |
158 | LES_int_01 | 154.3601 | <laugh> | 155.0374 |
159 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 155.0984 | [But the tree,] | 156.0321 |
160 | LES_int_01 | 155.3306 | [But it was cute] at the [time.] | 156.8619 |
161 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 156.4897 | [And] the- the initials are still in there. | 158.3571 |
162 | LES_int_01 | 158.5035 | Oh. [That's amazing.] | 160.1084 |
163 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 159.0945 | [It's crazy.] | 159.8277 |
165 | | 160.1023 | Yeah. | 160.4562 |
166 | LES_int_01 | 160.6942 | That's really funny. | 161.5546 |
167 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 161.5546 | You can still go back there and look at that. | 163.0923 |
168 | LES_int_01 | 163.3669 | [Yeah.] | 163.7269 |
169 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 163.5744 | [The tree.] | 163.9894 |
170 | LES_int_01 | 164.1237 | So, what's your like ancestry? Are your um, do you have like Caribbean roots? Or ju- African [American?] | 169.4839 |
171 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 169.2886 | [Just, I Af- I- I hate to s- use [those boxes and squares.] | 172.5179 |
172 | LES_int_01 | 171.7185 | [Yeah.] | 172.0145 |
174 | | 172.1212 | [I know, I know, I know.] | 173.1891 |
175 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 172.6460 | [If we have to.] | 173.4759 |
176 | LES_int_01 | 173.4759 | I know. | 173.9152 |
177 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 174.1105 | [Um.] | 174.6542 |
178 | LES_int_01 | 174.3491 | [I'm just-] I'm just [curious] because um, | 176.3079 |
179 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 175.3494 | [Yeah.] | 175.6488 |
180 | LES_int_01 | 176.4604 | I did another project in the Bronx | 178.4432 |
182 | | 178.7487 | and it was really interesting because everybody was really mixed. And you know, there was like | 182.0744 |
184 | | 182.3428 | one grandmother was from, you know, | 184.5024 |
186 | | 185.6069 | Jamaica, then the other grandmother was from you know, Atlanta, and [so everybody] had these really interesting histories, so | 192.3459 |
187 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 189.4532 | [Oh.] | 190.0390 |
188 | | 192.5289 | [<laugh>] | 193.2368 |
189 | LES_int_01 | 192.5289 | [just curious.] | 193.4015 |
190 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 193.7738 | Nope. Um. | 194.7911 |
192 | | 195.7248 | Both of my parents, both of my parents were | 197.9370 |
194 | | 199.1513 | they're just | 199.6639 |
196 | | 199.8470 | we are- I hate to say that we're African American. [It's] so s- | 202.3237 |
197 | LES_int_01 | 201.6037 | [Right.] | 201.8844 |
199 | | 202.2139 | [Do you] not like that word? | 203.1353 |
200 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 203.3550 | I mean, you think about it. It's like um, | 205.3285 |
202 | | 205.6549 | It's | 205.8578 |
204 | | 205.9394 | a- fundamentally st- | 207.0643 |
206 | | 207.2834 | um, stupid and | 208.2207 |
208 | | 208.8304 | It's hi- it's covering a truth. A- a history. | 211.3064 |
209 | LES_int_01 | 211.4136 | Yeah. | 211.7587 |
210 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 211.7493 | It's not acknowledging it at all. | 213.1902 |
211 | LES_int_01 | 213.3720 | [Yeah.] | 213.6938 |
212 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 213.4933 | [It's just] perpetuating a social s- | 214.9845 |
213 | | 215.0871 | uh- | 215.2596 |
215 | | 215.3715 | social construct. | 216.4393 |
216 | LES_int_01 | 216.5372 | Yeah. | 216.8963 |
217 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 217.1201 | It's | 217.3999 |
219 | | 217.6703 | like, African American, so Africa, | 219.9367 |
221 | | 220.1035 | Africa's a whole continent. | 221.5106 |
222 | LES_int_01 | 221.6862 | Yeah. | 222.0725 |
223 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 222.2613 | Plethora of | 222.8760 |
225 | | 223.5169 | you know, | 224.1371 |
226 | LES_int_01 | 224.2732 | [Right.] | 224.6068 |
227 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 224.3214 | [beliefs] and cultures and dialects. | 226.6483 |
228 | | 226.8371 | And to- | 227.7437 |
230 | | 228.6129 | to- | 228.9905 |
232 | | 229.1222 | to just give it back to me in my- some measly name, like oh, well you know what? | 232.6399 |
233 | LES_int_01 | 232.8682 | Yeah. | 233.2633 |
234 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 233.2633 | /Up/ in the past, you know, we've- | 234.8263 |
235 | | 235.1599 | your predecessors were pulled from your country, and brought here and enslaved, | 238.8494 |
237 | | 239.4509 | and you know, we'll give you back Africa in their name. You know, like | 242.4736 |
239 | | 242.6404 | not- not specific, like | 243.8373 |
240 | LES_int_01 | 243.8373 | [Right.] | 244.5705 |
241 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 244.3158 | [e-] I don't have any regions that I'm, | 245.8497 |
242 | | 246.0209 | you know, [just Africa.] | 246.9209 |
243 | LES_int_01 | 246.4775 | [Right, right.] | 247.5674 |
244 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 247.2024 | [Just] | 247.6327 |
245 | | 247.8686 | African. | 248.6775 |
246 | LES_int_01 | 248.6775 | Yeah. | 249.0639 |
247 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 249.2088 | [So.] | 249.8443 |
248 | LES_int_01 | 249.2088 | [S- It seems] like uh, not enough. | 251.3457 |
249 | | 251.6223 | It's like. | 252.0976 |
250 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 252.5190 | Mm. I'd rather, I'd like to call everybody brown. | 254.6527 |
252 | | 254.9227 | [Or different shades] of brown. | 256.1739 |
253 | LES_int_01 | 254.9227 | [<laugh>] | 255.7173 |
254 | | 256.3100 | I like [that.] | 257.0432 |
255 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 256.8636 | [I] think that we would [get to a better direction that way.] | 259.4623 |
256 | LES_int_01 | 258.1057 | [That's- that's very] inclusive. | 260.2168 |
257 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 260.2168 | Hey man, everybody's brown. [Everybody's] got some different color | 263.2170 |
258 | LES_int_01 | 261.4258 | [Yeah. (laughing)] | 262.0712 |
259 | | 263.2170 | Yeah. | 263.6906 |
260 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 263.6906 | but it's brown. | 264.4018 |
261 | LES_int_01 | 264.5171 | [Tinted.] | 265.2725 |
262 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 264.5656 | [It's some brown] and, some white. [It's tinted.] | 266.6335 |
263 | LES_int_01 | 266.0671 | [<laugh>] | 267.2700 |
264 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 267.4413 | You know. | 267.9549 |
266 | | 268.2831 | I'd like that way better. | 269.6574 |
267 | LES_int_01 | 269.7033 | Yeah. [Yeah.] | 270.3312 |
268 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 270.0414 | [Because] | 270.3882 |
269 | | 270.6077 | just- | 271.0819 |
271 | | 271.9424 | just | 272.4648 |
273 | | 272.9832 | /breries/ too [much.] | 274.3510 |
274 | LES_int_01 | 274.1479 | [Yeah.] Yeah. [Right.] | 275.1609 |
275 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 274.7805 | [So, I'm just] saying just for like | 276.0449 |
276 | LES_int_01 | 276.5761 | Yeah. | 276.8263 |
277 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 276.9361 | for the purpose of the interview, but | 278.1610 |
279 | | 278.4727 | man, | 278.9117 |
281 | | 279.0961 | I- I us- I usually say I'm brown. | 280.6459 |
283 | | 280.9532 | [I'm a] brown person, but | 282.1941 |
284 | LES_int_01 | 280.9532 | [Okay.] | 281.3293 |
285 | | 282.2688 | That's [good.] | 282.7429 |
286 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 282.6156 | [I] did- | 283.2259 |
287 | | 283.6649 | I don't | 284.0820 |
289 | | 284.1742 | like, I don't- most of my family's from the South. | 286.1761 |
291 | | 286.5741 | [Yeah.] And (laughing) then [uh.] | 287.7068 |
292 | LES_int_01 | 286.5741 | [Yeah.] | 286.8441 |
294 | | 287.4829 | [Do you] still have family down [there?] | 288.8406 |
295 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 288.6288 | [Yeah.] | 288.8351 |
296 | | 289.0942 | Have family down [there in the South.] | 290.5210 |
297 | LES_int_01 | 289.6594 | [Do you go like, visit?] | 290.7745 |
298 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 291.0599 | Yeah, we have family reunions. | 292.5087 |
299 | LES_int_01 | 293.0558 | Oh, you do? | 293.7480 |
300 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 293.7480 | Mm-hm. [I just didn't make] the last one that we had. | 295.9435 |
301 | LES_int_01 | 294.0908 | [That's fun.] | 294.8942 |
302 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 296.3298 | But, we have family reunions and | 298.1562 |
304 | | 298.5893 | every year, we go different | 299.7132 |
306 | | 299.9679 | places, but a lot of the family's from the South. | 302.0006 |
308 | | 302.6064 | And uh. | 303.5372 |
310 | | 304.3318 | Uh. | 304.6815 |
312 | | 305.3664 | My f- | 305.6913 |
314 | | 305.8142 | my father | 306.6791 |
316 | | 307.1523 | my /??/ my last name, a lot of people have my last name in Panama. | 309.9059 |
317 | LES_int_01 | 310.5937 | Huh. | 310.9405 |
318 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 311.2478 | Yeah. | 311.6298 |
319 | LES_int_01 | 311.7571 | That's [interesting.] | 312.4376 |
320 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 312.2576 | [Yeah,] I went there, and | 313.5396 |
321 | | 314.2684 | a phonebook had my last name [when I-] | 316.5630 |
322 | LES_int_01 | 316.0684 | [<laugh>] Did you call? Were you [like okay.<laugh>] | 319.2674 |
323 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 317.9064 | [I- I wanted to.] | 319.0391 |
325 | | 319.2546 | But, it was so weird because, um, | 321.4058 |
326 | | 321.8668 | u- I- f- In America, I've never- I've never hea- rarely hear people with my last name, /RD-NAME-2/. | 326.1308 |
327 | LES_int_01 | 326.1308 | I've never heard it before I [think.] | 327.6279 |
328 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 327.1274 | [/RD-NAME-2/]. | 327.6192 |
329 | | 328.0231 | And my father | 329.0021 |
331 | | 329.1821 | put | 329.4352 |
333 | | 329.5845 | two S's at the end. | 330.5942 |
335 | | 330.6952 | He put | 331.1518 |
337 | | 331.2835 | the other S at the end. | 332.2055 |
338 | LES_int_01 | 332.2055 | Okay. | 332.6621 |
339 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 332.9606 | It's like /RD-NAME-9/. | 335.3775 |
340 | LES_int_01 | 335.3775 | Okay. [Okay.] | 336.4267 |
341 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 335.8736 | [Double, double.] | 336.3521 |
342 | LES_int_01 | 336.7560 | [Yeah.] | 337.2082 |
343 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 336.9184 | [And, um. Then.] | 337.9395 |
344 | LES_int_01 | 337.6234 | [That is] rare I think. | 338.7386 |
345 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 339.2435 | Even if you try to Google my name, | 340.7434 |
347 | | 341.0990 | a lot of people who do have /RD-NAME-2/, they have one S. | 343.7595 |
348 | LES_int_01 | 344.4664 | Yeah. | 344.7595 |
349 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 344.7518 | And then, | 345.1996 |
350 | | 345.6254 | When I go to Panama, | 346.9893 |
351 | LES_int_01 | 347.0902 | Yeah. | 347.3712 |
352 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 347.6478 | There's, uh, some that had two S's, it was weird. It was very crazy, but, | 351.5991 |
354 | | 352.0952 | it was cool. And the- it was cool to see that, and then | 354.1571 |
356 | | 354.4293 | just being there, I looked like the- | 355.9000 |
358 | | 356.0844 | like the people there, uh, nobody knew, | 357.4674 |
360 | | 357.5991 | people was asking me what island I was- I was from. | 359.6346 |
361 | LES_int_01 | 359.9447 | [Oh, really?] | 360.3530 |
362 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 360.1307 | [And I'm] like | 360.5698 |
363 | | 360.8947 | a really crazy small [island] | 362.8483 |
364 | LES_int_01 | 362.6026 | [<laugh>] | 362.8483 |
365 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 363.0722 | far | 363.6079 |
367 | | 363.8186 | far [away.] | 364.7270 |
368 | LES_int_01 | 364.1927 | [You're like,] well, [it's an island.] | 366.1931 |
369 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 365.4004 | [It's an island.] | 366.2350 |
370 | | 366.3749 | It's far, and it's [crazy.] | 367.8024 |
371 | LES_int_01 | 367.4336 | [It's a] little [different.] | 368.6717 |
372 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 368.4961 | [<laugh>] | 368.8297 |
373 | | 369.0054 | It's crazy. | 369.5761 |
374 | LES_int_01 | 369.8615 | <laugh> | 370.5399 |
375 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 370.6693 | But, they look like me. | 371.6643 |
377 | | 371.8882 | So, I lo- I feel like | 372.8234 |
379 | | 373.0078 | my father could be from Panama. I did ask him and he doesn't know much about his father, and I don't know much about him. | 377.1692 |
380 | LES_int_01 | 377.3696 | Right. | 377.7648 |
381 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 377.7648 | [So.] | 378.0150 |
382 | LES_int_01 | 378.0150 | Right. | 378.4804 |
384 | | 378.8667 | So you grew up with your mom? | 379.9555 |
385 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 380.2804 | I grew with my mom. I grew up with her | 382.1770 |
387 | | 382.3175 | and | 382.7434 |
389 | | 382.8882 | she raised uh four of us. | 384.0940 |
390 | LES_int_01 | 384.2960 | Oh, so you- okay, you have siblings. | 385.3233 |
391 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 385.4945 | I have siblings. I have [two] older brothers and a younger sister, she's twenty-eight. | 388.5677 |
392 | LES_int_01 | 386.1970 | [Yeah.] | 386.4234 |
393 | | 389.0375 | Cool. | 389.3257 |
394 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 389.3257 | And we | 389.8833 |
395 | | 390.0018 | w- and my older brothers are thirty-two | 392.0697 |
397 | | 392.4955 | thirty-si- | 393.2111 |
399 | | 393.8143 | thirty-f- s- five and thirty six. Yeah. | 396.0006 |
400 | LES_int_01 | 395.8733 | Okay. | 396.2948 |
401 | | 397.3687 | <laugh> | 398.2380 |
402 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 398.2336 | They're old, I tease them. | 399.1907 |
403 | | 399.4788 | But um. | 400.0364 |
405 | | 400.7695 | It was four of us, and my father kind of left when I was three. | 403.3247 |
406 | LES_int_01 | 403.4871 | Okay. | 403.8120 |
407 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 404.3213 | And he go ji- addicted to drugs. | 406.2947 |
408 | LES_int_01 | 406.2947 | Oh. | 406.7293 |
409 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 406.8654 | Yeah. To uh, | 408.1167 |
411 | | 409.3567 | uh, tar heroin, and crack. | 410.8167 |
413 | | 411.9565 | [But.] | 412.3297 |
414 | LES_int_01 | 412.1321 | [So this] was at the end of th- the [eighties?] | 413.9892 |
415 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 413.7258 | [He's] around the right time. | 414.8673 |
416 | | 415.1175 | Right. | 415.3765 |
418 | | 415.9762 | But, he [uh.] | 417.0079 |
419 | LES_int_01 | 416.8383 | [That's so-] that's so brutal. | 418.0764 |
420 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 418.0764 | Me and him, I haven't talked to him, it's funny cause I haven't talked to him for six years. | 421.0310 |
421 | LES_int_01 | 421.1041 | Wow. | 421.5388 |
422 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 421.9163 | And I just started talking to him. | 423.2422 |
424 | | 423.8525 | [Um.] | 424.1035 |
425 | LES_int_01 | 423.8525 | [You] did? | 424.4583 |
426 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 424.6427 | Yeah, about like four- | 425.8281 |
428 | | 425.9422 | four months ago. | 426.5876 |
429 | LES_int_01 | 427.4089 | What made you decide that you wanted to do that? | 429.2880 |
430 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 430.1265 | It's funny, /RD-NAME-3/ | 431.3218 |
432 | | 431.5545 | we- we'r- we're doing, um. | 432.9725 |
434 | | 433.9735 | <ts> We're taking classes, uh, | 435.5227 |
436 | | 436.2076 | where we're tryna | 436.9627 |
438 | | 437.6174 | uh, | 438.0652 |
440 | | 438.2584 | combine martia- like | 439.4559 |
442 | | 439.6534 | um. | 440.3207 |
444 | | 441.6598 | The martial arts trainings | 443.0421 |
445 | LES_int_01 | 443.1651 | Yeah. | 443.4197 |
446 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 443.7753 | with um, community organizing. | 445.5007 |
448 | | 445.7422 | [The aspects] of it. | 446.6641 |
449 | LES_int_01 | 445.7422 | [Oh.] | 446.0802 |
450 | | 447.0637 | Huh. | 447.3622 |
451 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 447.3622 | And | 448.0057 |
452 | | 448.3130 | One of the things that we're doing is [um.] | 449.9656 |
453 | LES_int_01 | 449.6001 | [That's cool.] | 450.1972 |
454 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 450.2807 | Yeah, /RD-NAME-3/ has us in this. | 451.4572 |
455 | LES_int_01 | 451.8436 | [Yeah.] | 452.1465 |
456 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 451.9928 | [And] uh. | 452.6470 |
457 | | 452.7611 | Uh. [Wha- you-] | 453.3714 |
458 | LES_int_01 | 453.0201 | [Are you actually] learning | 453.9860 |
459 | | 454.0826 | martial arts? | 454.6802 |
460 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 454.5659 | Yeah. | 454.8161 |
461 | | 454.9522 | We're learning how to use that though | 456.6688 |
462 | LES_int_01 | 456.9059 | [That's cool.] | 457.4503 |
463 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 456.9937 | [to center] ourselves in our work. | 458.5654 |
464 | LES_int_01 | 459.0073 | [Wow.] | 459.5737 |
465 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 459.2488 | [And whatever] we're learning | 460.5703 |
466 | | 461.0883 | it's actually spilling into our personal lives. [And that's-] | 463.7225 |
467 | LES_int_01 | 463.2714 | [Yeah.] | 463.7225 |
468 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 463.8191 | that's one of the corollaries of it. | 465.2031 |
469 | LES_int_01 | 465.6070 | [Wow.] | 466.3402 |
470 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 465.7475 | [I am] | 466.5641 |
471 | | 466.8582 | <ts> | 466.9680 |
473 | | 467.0674 | I am | 467.6777 |
475 | | 467.9367 | talking to my father now, because | 469.2406 |
477 | | 469.5348 | I'm thinking more about my energy | 470.9309 |
479 | | 471.2909 | and how it's used. | 472.3270 |
480 | LES_int_01 | 472.4499 | Right. | 472.8846 |
481 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 472.9796 | And there was way more negative energy used to- | 475.5699 |
483 | | 475.7148 | to- to hate him | 476.7377 |
484 | LES_int_01 | 477.0187 | [Yeah.] | 477.5016 |
485 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 477.1899 | [than it] was to love him. | 478.2173 |
486 | LES_int_01 | 478.3885 | Yeah. | 478.8099 |
487 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 478.8670 | So. It's like a less | 480.0245 |
489 | | 480.4153 | I even feel like less energy being | 482.0836 |
491 | | 482.3865 | used | 483.0099 |
492 | LES_int_01 | 483.1504 | Yeah. | 483.6685 |
493 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 483.7036 | with um | 484.2875 |
495 | | 485.0762 | [less hate] | 485.5432 |
496 | LES_int_01 | 485.0762 | [Like just] sort of letting it- | 486.1754 |
497 | | 486.3993 | it out. | 486.7769 |
498 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 486.7769 | Letting it go. [And I mean, I've] | 488.0150 |
499 | LES_int_01 | 487.4398 | [Yeah.] | 488.0150 |
500 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 488.1599 | w- I have this understanding with everybody else. | 489.9248 |
502 | | 490.2233 | I'm so aware of all of these socioeconomic conditions | 492.6145 |
504 | | 492.9481 | but when it's right in front, | 494.2872 |
506 | | 495.0072 | you know, of me and it's- it's directly affecting me, I've | 498.0123 |
508 | | 498.4996 | I was like not consistent with that. | 500.1937 |
510 | | 500.3386 | Like, I was [not consistent] with that in my life, so. | 503.0650 |
511 | LES_int_01 | 500.8962 | [Yeah.] | 501.3264 |
512 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 503.5219 | That's when I start talking with him [again.] | 504.8697 |
513 | LES_int_01 | 504.6886 | [Yeah. Yeah.] | 505.8663 |
514 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 505.5063 | [And.] | 505.8488 |
515 | LES_int_01 | 505.9805 | Where- where is he? is he still in the city? | 507.5429 |
516 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 507.2663 | [He's still] in the neighborhood. | 508.2497 |
517 | | 508.4253 | He's still in the neighborhood to his will. | 509.7512 |
518 | LES_int_01 | 509.8741 | Wow. | 510.3834 |
519 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 510.4844 | And uh, it's funny because the way we found him. I found him in nineteen ninety | 514.1426 |
521 | | 514.6562 | like, we got s- we started talking back in nineteen ninety-seven. | 517.1411 |
522 | LES_int_01 | 517.4093 | Yeah. | 517.7342 |
523 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 518.3576 | Right before I went to college. | 519.5913 |
524 | LES_int_01 | 519.6966 | Yeah. | 520.1049 |
525 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 520.6844 | And he um. | 521.6371 |
527 | | 521.7205 | We found him because we lost my cat. | 523.1239 |
529 | | 524.2478 | And it was [my senior year of high school.] | 526.2454 |
530 | LES_int_01 | 525.2532 | [Boy George.] | 526.1796 |
531 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 526.4737 | Yep. Boy George. | 527.2782 |
532 | LES_int_01 | 527.2782 | <laugh> | 527.5943 |
533 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 527.5943 | We lost Boy [George.] | 528.7007 |
534 | LES_int_01 | 528.5470 | [No. | 528.9904 |
535 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 529.2099 | My senior year in high school, | 530.6615 |
537 | | 531.0390 | and I'm worried about my cat. I got midterms and everything, and my cat is missing, and I'm going crazy. | 535.4946 |
538 | LES_int_01 | 535.5385 | Yeah. | 535.9863 |
539 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 535.9863 | And he- he was one of those cats, this is a city, he would go out. | 539.1385 |
540 | | 539.5604 | He [would um.] | 540.0345 |
541 | LES_int_01 | 539.8018 | [Did you] let him out? | 540.6009 |
542 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 540.6931 | Yeah, he would go out to the windows and | 542.5985 |
544 | | 542.8092 | He would do some crazy stuff, and sometimes go all throughout the building, but he would come back. | 546.4911 |
545 | LES_int_01 | 546.5306 | [Yeah.] | 546.9697 |
546 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 546.6228 | [And he would] start crying and | 547.9180 |
547 | | 548.0541 | back at the door, like he always came back. | 550.1903 |
548 | LES_int_01 | 550.2781 | Yeah. | 550.6557 |
549 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 550.6337 | But somebody, uh, one of the dagone maintenance men took him. | 552.7767 |
550 | LES_int_01 | 552.9183 | [<laugh> He did?] | 554.4066 |
551 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 553.3167 | [But we found-] | 554.1124 |
553 | | 554.4066 | Yeah. He took him. | 555.1398 |
554 | LES_int_01 | 555.3221 | He did? | 555.8928 |
555 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 555.8928 | Maintenance man took him and put him in the basement. | 557.4382 |
556 | | 557.7631 | Good for rats. | 558.6324 |
558 | | 558.9865 | [They took my] cat, and put him down there for rats. [My cat.] | 561.9148 |
559 | LES_int_01 | 558.9865 | [What?] | 559.8689 |
561 | | 561.4275 | [No.] No. | 562.8261 |
562 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 563.5304 | But, um. | 564.4436 |
563 | LES_int_01 | 563.8754 | [Come on.] | 564.4505 |
564 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 564.7553 | When we were in the court, when I was- my sister and I were door knocking. | 567.7373 |
566 | | 567.8691 | looking for [my cat.] | 568.6549 |
567 | LES_int_01 | 568.4047 | [Oh.] | 568.9798 |
568 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 569.1861 | And that's how I found my father. | 570.3496 |
570 | | 570.7080 | Like [acro-] | 571.2700 |
571 | LES_int_01 | 570.9715 | [No.] | 571.7310 |
572 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 571.7924 | He lives right across the street from me. | 573.5310 |
574 | | 573.9964 | [I'm like] | 574.3476 |
575 | LES_int_01 | 574.1369 | [He] just answered the door? | 575.3925 |
576 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 575.5110 | No, actually, when. It was like- It's like a | 577.2452 |
578 | | 577.3835 | it's like one of them houses where all the people | 579.2406 |
580 | | 579.3503 | do their drugs at and everything. [Like a little] crack spot. | 581.4823 |
581 | LES_int_01 | 580.6174 | [Yeah.] | 581.0345 |
582 | | 581.7633 | Oh my [God.] | 582.8214 |
583 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 582.4131 | [And-] but we didn't know that. Anyway, we was knocking on the door. | 585.0805 |
584 | | 585.4669 | And somebody said | 586.2791 |
586 | | 586.3844 | /RD-NAME-1/. | 586.7313 |
588 | | 587.4190 | I think those are your kids outside. | 588.8547 |
589 | LES_int_01 | 589.0039 | Oh my [God.] | 589.8995 |
590 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 589.7722 | [And] my sister and I looked at each other | 591.1859 |
591 | | 591.4186 | we was like | 592.0903 |
593 | | 592.6990 | daddy (whispering) | 593.1512 |
595 | | 593.7878 | daddy? | 594.2576 |
597 | | 595.2673 | And we [found-] | 596.1586 |
598 | LES_int_01 | 595.7064 | [You were like] holy [shit. <laugh>] | 598.9848 |
599 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 596.6486 | [Holy shit. Like, wow. This is dad's house?] | 599.4260 |
600 | | 599.8299 | And we just stood there still. | 601.0905 |
602 | | 601.1783 | And then it was- was sure enough, it was him. | 602.5086 |
604 | | 602.6622 | So, we found him again. | 603.9003 |
606 | | 604.3318 | And it was like, oh, you live right across the street? | 606.2460 |
608 | | 606.3733 | What? | 606.9704 |
609 | LES_int_01 | 607.5324 | That's crazy. | 608.4368 |
610 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 608.4368 | That's how we started. | 609.3484 |
611 | | 609.7743 | So he still lives in the neighborhood. | 611.1704 |
613 | | 611.6665 | And um. | 612.4348 |
615 | | 613.1954 | <ts> But- and lives right across the street from my mom. | 614.9120 |
617 | | 615.3115 | Like literally. Th- well, now she moved further | 617.7152 |
619 | | 618.0269 | she moved to another smaller apartment | 619.3791 |
621 | | 619.6206 | [So they] live in the same development. | 620.9217 |
622 | LES_int_01 | 619.6206 | [Yeah.] | 619.9722 |
623 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 621.1281 | They live literally in the same | 622.6471 |
625 | | 623.1388 | [development.] | 623.6525 |
626 | LES_int_01 | 623.1388 | [Is this-] do you live in Brooch? | 624.5946 |
627 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 624.9344 | No, I live in /RD-ADDRESS-2/ | 626.4955 |
629 | | 626.7913 | [I'm from /RD-ADDRESS-2/ | 627.5860 |
630 | LES_int_01 | 626.9362 | [Oh. /RD-ADDRESS-2] Okay. I knew you- you- d- okay. I think /RD-NAME-8/ [from like- yeah.] I was like /RD-NAME-2/'s from /RD-ADDRESS-3/. Right.] | 633.6528 |
631 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 630.9813 | [It was from /RD-ADDRESS-2/.] | 632.0391 |
633 | | 633.3781 | [Yeah.] | 633.9050 |
634 | LES_int_01 | 633.9821 | [But, I-] I forgot, I thought it was [pretty chill.] | 635.8748 |
635 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 633.9842 | [He's from /RD-ADDRESS-2/] | 634.6553 |
636 | | 636.0153 | Yeah. | 636.4017 |
637 | LES_int_01 | 636.4017 | <ts> Okay. | 636.8970 |
639 | | 637.2048 | So, is that where you still live? | 638.1373 |
640 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 638.4637 | He still lives there. | 639.3683 |
642 | | 639.7600 | And, uh, yeah. My mother still lives there. My mother is | 642.7163 |
644 | | 643.1173 | He- my father's not doing anything with himself right now. | 644.9356 |
645 | LES_int_01 | 645.0242 | Yeah. | 645.2853 |
646 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 645.2853 | He actually volunteered yesterday for the elections. | 647.6401 |
647 | | 647.8917 | Yup, you know, I got him to help them. | 649.5656 |
648 | LES_int_01 | 649.8035 | That's [cool.] | 650.4333 |
649 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 650.0972 | [Well,] he could not volunteer. He got money. He got money to [do it. But.] | 652.7668 |
650 | LES_int_01 | 652.5197 | [Yeah,] yeah. | 653.1259 |
651 | | 653.2098 | [But, you got] him involved. | 654.4734 |
652 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 653.2331 | [You know.] | 653.7087 |
653 | | 654.6276 | <ts> I got him involved, he got to see a little of what I do. | 657.2109 |
654 | LES_int_01 | 657.3834 | Yeah. | 657.6865 |
655 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 657.8451 | And uh. | 658.6657 |
657 | | 661.5754 | My mother, she's | 662.7831 |
659 | | 662.9323 | she's uh, a social worker. | 664.5457 |
661 | | 664.9700 | In d- in um, the Lower East Side. | 666.6127 |
662 | LES_int_01 | 666.6593 | Very cool. | 667.2375 |
663 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 667.2375 | She's been a social worker for o- she could t- she's | 669.7504 |
664 | | 670.2447 | I don't know. She's close to retiring. | 671.4223 |
666 | | 671.7953 | [She's her-] close to hitting that thirty year mark point. | 673.8796 |
667 | LES_int_01 | 671.7953 | [Yeah.] | 672.1073 |
668 | | 674.0428 | Yeah. | 674.3991 |
669 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 674.7022 | [So,] she's um. | 676.0685 |
670 | LES_int_01 | 674.7022 | [Yeah.] | 675.1453 |
671 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 676.4042 | She's been helping with parents at a head start program. | 678.4513 |
673 | | 678.8336 | [On the Lower East Side.] | 679.8981 |
674 | LES_int_01 | 678.8336 | [Oh, that's cool.] | 679.7163 |
675 | | 680.1266 | That's great. | 680.7514 |
676 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 680.8447 | So, she's still here and she works in the neighborhood. | 682.8809 |
677 | LES_int_01 | 682.8809 | Yeah. | 683.2586 |
678 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 683.2586 | And I'm here, and I work in the [neighborhood.] | 684.8303 |
679 | LES_int_01 | 684.5875 | [Yeah.] Yeah. | 685.3056 |
680 | | 685.6381 | Do you still live with her? Or do you live on your [own?] | 687.2235 |
681 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 687.1116 | [I] live on my own. I'm living with- I live, um. | 689.2239 |
682 | | 689.5469 | On /RD-ADDRESS-4/. | 690.4608 |
683 | LES_int_01 | 690.6800 | Uh-huh. | 691.0064 |
684 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 691.3514 | Now. | 691.6871 |
685 | LES_int_01 | 692.1068 | Yeah. | 692.3306 |
686 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 692.3819 | And I used to live with my sister, but she just moved out. | 694.3357 |
687 | LES_int_01 | 694.5677 | U- Oh. | 695.5515 |
688 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 695.9246 | And uh. | 696.8805 |
689 | LES_int_01 | 697.3607 | So, you live by yourself? | 698.2793 |
690 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 698.4845 | Yeah. | 698.8342 |
691 | LES_int_01 | 698.9928 | How's that? | 699.4637 |
692 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 699.9953 | Uh, it's good. | 700.8288 |
694 | | 700.9500 | [I mean.] | 701.5562 |
695 | LES_int_01 | 700.9500 | [Yeah.] | 701.4396 |
696 | | 701.7008 | It's probably kind of cool right? | 702.7639 |
697 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 702.8478 | Yeah. It's cool. | 703.5846 |
699 | | 703.7991 | [Cause, you know.] | 704.2514 |
700 | LES_int_01 | 703.9016 | [Like,] when you leave in the morning, and then you come back, and like | 706.5035 |
701 | | 706.6559 | everything's | 707.2761 |
702 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 707.3880 | Back where you left it. | 708.2243 |
703 | LES_int_01 | 708.2253 | Exactly [where you left it.] | 709.4458 |
704 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 708.6580 | [But that's-] that's what's making me- it's making you more account- like I'll | 711.4919 |
705 | | 712.0607 | now I can't blame things on my sister, [like oh.] | 714.0224 |
706 | LES_int_01 | 713.4668 | [<laugh> Right. (laughing) <laugh> Right.] | 714.9236 |
707 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 714.5120 | [She didn't] throw out the garbage? [It's all me.] | 716.8295 |
708 | LES_int_01 | 715.9960 | [You're like-] | 716.4810 |
709 | | 716.8621 | you're like, nope. | 717.5093 |
711 | | 717.6206 | That was my [fault. <laugh>] | 719.3132 |
712 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 718.0542 | [It's all me.] | 718.5485 |
714 | | 719.3132 | I can't even like, yeah. So. | 720.7626 |
715 | LES_int_01 | 720.7626 | <laugh> | 721.3781 |
716 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 721.3781 | It's putting me- [It's putting things] into perspective. Like ah shit man. I gotta- | 724.8078 |
717 | LES_int_01 | 722.3504 | [That's funny.] | 723.0601 |
718 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 725.1015 | when people come over, I gotta make sure my | 726.8445 |
720 | | 727.8657 | My [stuff is] on point. | 728.8692 |
721 | LES_int_01 | 728.0523 | [Right.] | 728.4207 |
722 | | 728.8697 | Right. | 729.2833 |
724 | | 729.4046 | [That's pretty funny.] | 730.3278 |
725 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 729.4652 | [But.] | 729.9501 |
726 | | 730.4211 | Yeah, that's about it actually. | 731.5497 |
728 | | 731.7922 | It's cool living without. | 732.6688 |
729 | LES_int_01 | 732.7994 | Tell me like, um. | 734.1052 |
731 | | 734.2169 | <ts> | 734.3101 |
733 | | 734.5013 | What you remember about being a kid | 736.2312 |
735 | | 736.7302 | growing up. | 737.1638 |
736 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 738.0078 | I've g- I- You know, it's so funny. It's- this is a memory that's good. It's so funny that you just said this. | 742.4457 |
737 | LES_int_01 | 742.5716 | Yeah. | 742.8048 |
738 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 742.9074 | This is a memory | 743.7980 |
740 | | 744.1512 | that's good and bad in itself. | 745.5361 |
741 | LES_int_01 | 745.6293 | Okay. | 746.0723 |
742 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 746.5806 | When we were little, we played this game called colors. | 748.7815 |
743 | LES_int_01 | 749.1452 | Okay, what is it? | 749.9472 |
744 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 750.1943 | Kay. | 750.4601 |
746 | | 750.6746 | Before you left a- if we was living toge- if we was friends [and we was] growing up [together,] | 754.5341 |
747 | LES_int_01 | 753.3078 | [Yeah.] | 753.5782 |
749 | | 754.4175 | [Yeah.] | 754.7999 |
750 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 754.9724 | Before we left this house, we had to pick a color. | 756.5719 |
752 | | 756.7118 | What's your color? Purple? | 757.6257 |
753 | LES_int_01 | 759.2854 | Sure. | 759.6538 |
754 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 759.7284 | Alright. I'm red. | 760.5444 |
755 | LES_int_01 | 760.6610 | Okay. | 761.1552 |
756 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 761.5763 | We'd walk out, | 762.2758 |
758 | | 762.7094 | and we'd count | 763.4648 |
760 | | 763.5720 | how many crack vials we see with that color [top.] | 765.7017 |
761 | LES_int_01 | 765.2870 | [<laugh>] | 765.7017 |
762 | | 765.9725 | No. (laughing) | 766.4947 |
763 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 767.6041 | Okay. | 768.1311 |
765 | | 768.4202 | [So, if you had] | 769.4227 |
766 | LES_int_01 | 768.7381 | [Oh my God.] | 769.8385 |
767 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 769.5856 | [so, we would] get ready to go to this post [office] | 771.7445 |
768 | LES_int_01 | 771.5860 | [Yeah.] | 772.0057 |
769 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 772.7844 | By the time we got to the post office and back, | 775.0089 |
771 | | 775.8762 | you was letting me know every time you saw | 777.4569 |
773 | | 777.7460 | a purple one. | 778.3804 |
774 | LES_int_01 | 778.3804 | Yeah. | 778.7535 |
775 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 778.7535 | And I was letting you know every time I saw a red one. And we got points. | 781.8030 |
776 | | 782.2367 | And upon the end of the day, | 783.6934 |
778 | | 784.5925 | we always would forget sometimes or whatever. | 786.4017 |
780 | | 786.4950 | But, | 786.9147 |
782 | | 787.5115 | either way, | 788.1923 |
784 | | 788.4534 | that's how much drugs was in this neighborhood. | 789.9668 |
785 | LES_int_01 | 789.9702 | Shit. | 790.4916 |
786 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 790.4521 | Where | 790.9697 |
787 | | 791.2681 | there were crack vials | 792.0981 |
789 | | 792.2939 | everywhere. | 792.8955 |
791 | | 793.0260 | Drug needles. | 793.8980 |
793 | | 794.1404 | That was- that was a common thing in grass, so you didn't play in grass. | 797.3052 |
795 | | 797.6223 | [You kept off grass] | 798.5408 |
796 | LES_int_01 | 797.7668 | [Yeah.] | 798.1585 |
797 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 798.7926 | cause it's a place where dogs | 799.9469 |
799 | | 800.3106 | t- crapped at | 800.9914 |
800 | LES_int_01 | 801.0241 | Yeah. | 801.5603 |
801 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 801.8587 | you had drug needles in it, | 803.0781 |
802 | LES_int_01 | 803.2739 | Yeah. | 803.6143 |
803 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 803.6143 | and- | 803.8661 |
804 | | 804.2904 | and crack vials. They looked like little perfume- | 806.4167 |
806 | | 806.8644 | [it looks like little perfume crack vials.] | 808.2770 |
807 | LES_int_01 | 806.8644 | [Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.] And were there all different [colors?] | 809.9044 |
808 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 809.6945 | [All] in different colors. | 810.6131 |
809 | | 810.8882 | So, every w- depending what color you pick, I w- my color was always purple. I gave you purple today. | 814.5799 |
810 | LES_int_01 | 814.6358 | Oh. Thanks. | 815.3840 |
812 | | 815.7270 | Was it a good color? | 816.4357 |
813 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 816.4357 | But purple, I'd be like purple. And I'd be like, there go purp- there goes five purple! | 819.4704 |
814 | | 819.7409 | I used to f- I'd have like, I had like this uh | 821.7179 |
816 | | 822.2495 | this- this science to it [like nah man. Purple is] the color. | 825.0388 |
817 | LES_int_01 | 823.6113 | [<laugh>] | 824.3760 |
818 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 825.1694 | Everybody gets the purp- I [really did.] | 827.0539 |
819 | LES_int_01 | 826.5690 | [<laugh>] | 827.9725 |
820 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 827.8140 | [But.] So. Yeah. It was purple. And i- this was in school yards | 830.6851 |
821 | | 830.8204 | and | 831.2573 |
823 | | 831.8914 | and churches. [And any type] of grass over here, there was drug needles [and] crack vials and | 836.6957 |
824 | LES_int_01 | 833.0805 | [Yeah.] | 833.4442 |
826 | | 835.5533 | [Yeah.] | 835.9310 |
827 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 836.8356 | all of that in there. | 837.5164 |
829 | | 838.2111 | Um. | 838.6028 |
830 | LES_int_01 | 838.5702 | [So, where-] where did you play as a kid? Like [where did you go?] | 841.6858 |
831 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 838.7847 | [But.] | 839.1484 |
833 | | 840.6226 | [That's the funny] | 841.2148 |
835 | | 841.3780 | [so, we] played in parks still. We [still played] in these parks. | 843.7323 |
836 | LES_int_01 | 842.6918 | [Okay.] | 843.0835 |
837 | | 843.7323 | Okay. | 844.0727 |
838 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 844.0727 | We still | 844.6949 |
839 | | 845.3571 | played in these parks. [So, yeah,] we still- that's what I'm saying, like | 847.7118 |
840 | LES_int_01 | 846.1171 | [Yeah.] | 846.5321 |
841 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 847.8332 | it was- this is a negative part of it, but | 849.3673 |
843 | | 849.6937 | I r- I remember that | 850.5311 |
845 | | 850.7876 | That was fun [for me as a little kid. That was a] fun game. | 853.3344 |
846 | LES_int_01 | 851.3993 | [You were like (laughing), that was a fun game] | 852.7095 |
847 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 853.4090 | [You know.] | 853.9126 |
848 | LES_int_01 | 853.5271 | [Yeah.] | 853.9973 |
849 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 854.0524 | Not knowing the real implications of it. | 855.9179 |
851 | | 856.4682 | Even, um, | 857.3728 |
853 | | 857.9883 | where we played uh, | 859.0001 |
855 | | 859.6436 | I remember one time this boy chased us with a freaking drug needle. | 862.1564 |
857 | | 862.6952 | He picked it up and we- that was when AIDS was around. We was like, you didn't know about AIDS much, but it [was like you knew that] | 867.0829 |
858 | LES_int_01 | 866.2669 | [Yeah.] | 866.8684 |
859 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 867.4420 | you associated it with drugs too and drug needles, and we was like | 869.7894 |
861 | | 870.2230 | he's gonna give us AIDS! And [we used to tell everybody] he's had AIDS cause he picked up the drug needle! | 875.0728 |
862 | LES_int_01 | 872.0966 | [Yeah.] | 872.7214 |
863 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 875.3805 | But there was drug needles. | 876.5844 |
864 | LES_int_01 | 876.7522 | [Jeez.] | 877.6475 |
865 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 876.9667 | [When I got, um] | 878.1324 |
866 | | 879.2645 | <ts> When I got older, I played basketball. | 880.8035 |
867 | LES_int_01 | 881.0879 | Yeah. | 881.4516 |
868 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 881.8573 | And, uh. The way we played, uh, we has to- we used to steal | 885.3218 |
870 | | 885.6342 | brooms from the maintenance men | 886.9818 |
871 | LES_int_01 | 887.2769 | Yeah. | 887.6313 |
872 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 887.8132 | and clean our parks | 889.1188 |
874 | | 889.5058 | before we played on them. | 890.3311 |
876 | | 890.8767 | We had to clean the gra- we had to clean the [glass off of them.] | 893.2303 |
877 | LES_int_01 | 892.5975 | [Yeah.] | 893.0780 |
878 | | 893.5381 | Yeah. | 893.9204 |
879 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 893.9204 | And, uh. | 894.7085 |
880 | | 894.8763 | We would beg the junkies | 896.0327 |
882 | | 896.1913 | like, we would make like, agreements with them. Like, man | 897.9478 |
884 | | 898.3908 | please don't pee in this corner man. | 899.6264 |
886 | | 899.8922 | Cause it's gonna get on the court. | 900.8808 |
888 | | 901.1419 | It's gonna get on the court man. | 902.3263 |
890 | | 902.5501 | Please. | 903.1600 |
892 | | 903.3045 | pee in the other [corner.] | 904.1795 |
893 | LES_int_01 | 903.9277 | [<laugh> Just over there. Just over there.] | 906.5985 |
894 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 904.4862 | [And we used to beg them. Yeah. Just pee] | 906.8783 |
895 | | 907.5171 | over | 908.0487 |
897 | | 908.2026 | [there.] | 908.8998 |
898 | LES_int_01 | 908.7460 | [<laugh>] | 910.5179 |
899 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 909.9956 | [And these were] all men | 911.4142 |
900 | | 911.5074 | that | 911.9178 |
902 | | 912.6872 | were attached to families. | 914.1466 |
903 | LES_int_01 | 914.1466 | Oh. | 914.8741 |
904 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 915.2424 | But, they were like these serious public drug [users.] | 917.4806 |
905 | LES_int_01 | 917.2568 | [Wow.] | 917.8789 |
906 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 917.9903 | And they- some of them were- had alcohol problems, some of them were | 921.0153 |
908 | | 921.4630 | addicted to other types of drugs, | 922.7080 |
910 | | 923.0344 | but, it was still a community. | 924.6384 |
912 | | 924.7317 | Which is oddly enough. | 925.8123 |
913 | LES_int_01 | 925.8123 | Yeah. | 926.2413 |
914 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 926.2506 | They still like | 927.0713 |
916 | | 927.3650 | I still could walk- if we walked by this basketball court right now, | 930.4053 |
917 | LES_int_01 | 930.4286 | Yeah. | 930.8949 |
918 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 930.9928 | And these- those guys are still there. | 932.5211 |
919 | LES_int_01 | 932.6609 | [Yeah.] | 932.9221 |
920 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 932.7682 | [They're] still there, sitting there. Everything's changing around them but they're still there. | 935.5006 |
921 | | 935.8026 | And they call me Sheryl Swoops. They joke around. So, they be like | 937.8170 |
922 | LES_int_01 | 937.9004 | [<laugh>] | 939.1310 |
923 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 938.1506 | [they're all drunk, and they're like] Aye, Sheryl Swoops. | 940.6180 |
924 | LES_int_01 | 940.8770 | [<laugh>] | 941.4785 |
925 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 941.1580 | [But.] | 941.4741 |
926 | | 941.6102 | That- they would look at y- they were looking at me and watching me grow up and. | 945.0108 |
927 | LES_int_01 | 945.1732 | Yeah. | 945.6430 |
928 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 945.7592 | They still even /and/ make dumb conversation, ask me if I'm- what happened to basketball? | 948.9104 |
929 | LES_int_01 | 949.0509 | [Right.] | 949.4224 |
930 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 949.1852 | [But.] | 949.5496 |
931 | | 949.6831 | These are the people that- this was my neighborhood. This is where we played at | 952.3074 |
932 | LES_int_01 | 952.4786 | [Yeah.] | 952.9140 |
933 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 952.7289 | [Those] are the things that I remember. | 954.3445 |
934 | LES_int_01 | 954.7110 | So, I mean, you- It sounds like you didn't necessarily feel unsafe | 957.9203 |
936 | | 958.2101 | even being in this kind of | 959.8669 |
938 | | 960.4552 | unsafe environment. | 961.6142 |
939 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 961.6866 | You knew what to do. | 962.9291 |
941 | | 963.3725 | When my mother- when I walked in the building as a little girl, we had to ring the bell before we walked in the building | 968.1497 |
943 | | 968.3906 | so my mother knew that we was in the building. | 970.1818 |
944 | LES_int_01 | 970.3355 | Okay. | 970.7218 |
945 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 971.0291 | Um. When we was leaving the building, we had to ring the bell when we left the building, so [my mother] knew that we made it out of the building. | 976.6904 |
946 | LES_int_01 | 974.6396 | [Okay.] | 974.9705 |
947 | | 976.8939 | Okay. | 977.2452 |
949 | | 977.4383 | Cause the building was not | 978.7861 |
950 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 978.7861 | The building wasn't safe. [Yeah.] | 979.9057 |
951 | LES_int_01 | 979.4315 | [necessarily.] | 980.5071 |
952 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 980.1384 | [Yeah.] | 980.5071 |
953 | | 980.6476 | This is what she nee- you know. | 981.7320 |
954 | LES_int_01 | 981.7320 | Yeah. | 982.1754 |
955 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 982.2281 | W- we had tight codes when | 983.8071 |
957 | | 984.0881 | when we- you w- we were at home, we answered the door for no one, not even family members. | 988.0262 |
958 | LES_int_01 | 987.9515 | [Oh.] | 988.2940 |
959 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 988.1535 | [Not] even- I got in huge trouble when I let my cousin in one day. | 990.7262 |
960 | | 991.1465 | And I was like, but he's my family. My mother told me, you do not | 994.0090 |
962 | | 994.1715 | open the door | 995.2207 |
964 | | 995.3876 | for anyone. | 996.3512 |
966 | | 996.5664 | [Anybody.] | 997.3171 |
967 | LES_int_01 | 996.5664 | [Yeah.] | 996.7815 |
969 | | 997.1634 | [Nobody.] | 997.7561 |
970 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 997.7561 | Nobody. | 998.6517 |
971 | | 998.8668 | Nobody. | 999.5078 |
973 | | 999.9117 | So, I got in trouble for that once. | 1001.1986 |
975 | | 1001.6618 | Um. | 1002.0876 |
977 | | 1002.6628 | <ts> Always travel in pairs. Like when my sister and I, we used to always | 1005.3452 |
979 | | 1005.7184 | t- um walk with each other. | 1006.7051 |
980 | LES_int_01 | 1006.7710 | Yeah. | 1007.1002 |
981 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1007.1002 | Um. When we had Walkmans, right, you couldn't- | 1009.1725 |
982 | | 1009.4534 | You couldn't- um | 1010.1910 |
984 | | 1010.2832 | hold it out like now, and you had to not have it loud | 1013.1351 |
986 | | 1013.3677 | because somebody might come up and run up on you. | 1014.9751 |
987 | LES_int_01 | 1015.1068 | Right. | 1015.4976 |
988 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1015.6732 | When you, um, | 1016.8673 |
990 | | 1017.3151 | you kept a quarter. My mother made sure we kept quarters tight on our little bras. | 1020.6803 |
991 | LES_int_01 | 1020.8164 | [Yeah.] | 1021.1500 |
992 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1020.9305 | [So we] could call at a pay phone in case of emergency. | 1023.2102 |
993 | LES_int_01 | 1023.3638 | Yeah. | 1023.6931 |
994 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1023.9126 | And | 1024.4702 |
996 | | 1024.9443 | uh. You know. | 1026.0243 |
998 | | 1026.5292 | Put the f- I don't know. We- I just never- | 1028.6294 |
1000 | | 1029.4065 | I never felt | 1030.6270 |
1002 | | 1030.9738 | uns- I felt like they- I would have those fears, but I knew that like | 1033.9301 |
1004 | | 1034.1760 | there was these things that I had t- [to do.] | 1036.0106 |
1005 | LES_int_01 | 1035.7252 | [You sort] of knew- [You had like] a set of [rules.] | 1038.6301 |
1006 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1036.6940 | [To keep.] | 1037.0804 |
1008 | | 1038.3184 | [Rules.] Yeah. When you got down the block, you- you didn't go down the whole block without looking down at least [once.] | 1042.4672 |
1009 | LES_int_01 | 1042.3838 | [Yeah.] | 1042.9267 |
1010 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1042.6501 | [Never did] that. It didn't [make sense] to me. | 1044.3561 |
1011 | LES_int_01 | 1043.8091 | [Yeah.] | 1044.0067 |
1012 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1044.7355 | You know, you was taught that. You walk down the block, | 1046.3687 |
1013 | LES_int_01 | 1046.5223 | [Right.] | 1046.8867 |
1014 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1046.5838 | [You look,] you check yourself. Check your surroundings every once in a while. | 1049.1549 |
1015 | LES_int_01 | 1049.1549 | Yeah. | 1049.5719 |
1016 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1049.6510 | These the things that w- | 1050.5510 |
1018 | | 1050.6739 | we were just raised up with. | 1051.8060 |
1019 | LES_int_01 | 1051.9509 | [Right.] | 1052.4251 |
1020 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1052.0738 | [I remember] throwing out the garbage. | 1053.4744 |
1021 | | 1053.9651 | There was this | 1054.4349 |
1023 | | 1054.7246 | um, junkie guy, | 1055.9495 |
1025 | | 1056.2305 | um, he was running away form people shooting at him. | 1058.0202 |
1027 | | 1059.1485 | And we had just finished thro- we had just been- we had literally just throw- we would throw out the garbage | 1063.1513 |
1029 | | 1063.3840 | while he had just ran away from somebody shooting at him. | 1065.1050 |
1031 | | 1065.6187 | And I remember like, | 1066.4001 |
1033 | | 1066.9116 | him breathing so hard | 1068.8302 |
1035 | | 1068.9267 | and | 1069.5370 |
1037 | | 1070.0858 | and- and um | 1070.8656 |
1039 | | 1071.0192 | sweating and he was- it was | 1072.7490 |
1041 | | 1072.8588 | we heard the gunshots, and then I figured we- we- we they was probably, like that was the guy that was | 1076.2832 |
1043 | | 1076.7167 | but I remember us throwing out the garbage | 1077.9767 |
1045 | | 1078.2621 | and I remember being like this little girl. | 1079.8627 |
1047 | | 1079.9812 | When my- cause my sister and I threw out the garbage together, like come on. What kind- | 1082.6129 |
1049 | | 1082.7753 | kind of- neighborhood you have [to throw out the garbage together.] | 1084.9073 |
1050 | LES_int_01 | 1084.1606 | [You throw together.] | 1085.2865 |
1051 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1085.4254 | It's just- but. | 1086.0488 |
1053 | | 1086.6898 | Um. | 1087.3878 |
1055 | | 1087.9558 | We- I remember us like, just knowing what to do. | 1089.9237 |
1057 | | 1090.0730 | I remember just knowing like | 1091.1618 |
1059 | | 1091.5437 | Don't pay him no mind. | 1092.6435 |
1061 | | 1092.9421 | Act calm. | 1093.6840 |
1063 | | 1093.8201 | Act like he's not even here. | 1095.1109 |
1065 | | 1095.6448 | And throw out the garbage. And I was fucking terrified. | 1098.1604 |
1066 | LES_int_01 | 1098.3931 | [Yeah.] | 1098.8278 |
1067 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1098.5512 | [But I remember] like, just being like | 1100.0537 |
1068 | | 1100.3479 | no. We gonna throw out- and her and I literally talked like he wasn't s- | 1102.9454 |
1070 | | 1103.2001 | <imitates breathing> like breathing all hard, out of breath. | 1106.3611 |
1072 | | 1106.5981 | We were talking, like, yeah the food was good. And we both knew. We didn't even- | 1109.8502 |
1074 | | 1110.1180 | We never looked at each other once | 1111.6195 |
1076 | | 1111.8346 | to know like, man, we just keep it moving. Don't act like we don't see him, throw the garbage out, act like we don't even know he's there. | 1117.0519 |
1077 | LES_int_01 | 1117.1161 | You knew [exactly.] | 1118.1522 |
1078 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1117.5551 | [They-] | 1117.7922 |
1080 | | 1118.1434 | We knew exactly wha- they were drug dealers, they- | 1119.7415 |
1081 | | 1119.9302 | they sold drugs in the buildings. | 1121.4048 |
1083 | | 1121.7648 | Um. | 1122.3537 |
1085 | | 1122.5293 | All the time. They was drugs- dru- drug dealer- I'm talking about huge operations. | 1125.8873 |
1086 | LES_int_01 | 1125.8873 | Yeah. | 1126.3527 |
1087 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1126.4097 | On every floor. You- | 1127.5490 |
1089 | | 1127.7773 | we used [to hang] | 1128.3480 |
1090 | LES_int_01 | 1128.0783 | [/RD-ADDRESS-2/] | 1128.8310 |
1091 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1128.8617 | Yeah. /RD-ADDRESS-2/ [too.] | 1129.8830 |
1092 | LES_int_01 | 1129.6043 | [Yeah.] | 1130.0454 |
1093 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1130.1771 | We used to be in the um, hallway. We used to play a lot in the hallway too. [That was another] safe place. | 1133.7596 |
1094 | LES_int_01 | 1132.8420 | [Yeah.] | 1133.2196 |
1095 | | 1133.8694 | [Okay.] | 1134.2118 |
1096 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1134.0977 | [Play] out in the hallway | 1134.9142 |
1097 | | 1135.2460 | and when | 1135.9002 |
1099 | | 1136.1884 | we would go by the- some people were coming by to get the drugs, you would see like | 1139.9879 |
1101 | | 1140.1206 | tons of money on the | 1141.0173 |
1103 | | 1141.5845 | table and | 1142.3211 |
1105 | | 1142.7993 | it was just c- we couldn't [even think about it.] | 1144.6338 |
1106 | LES_int_01 | 1143.8743 | [That's crazy.] | 1144.8945 |
1107 | | 1145.3429 | Did you ever have any like, experiences | 1147.4565 |
1109 | | 1147.6394 | that affected you personally with | 1149.2523 |
1111 | | 1149.4033 | any of this s- stuff? Like vi- li- violence, | 1152.3125 |
1113 | | 1152.5778 | <ts> | 1152.7059 |
1115 | | 1152.9667 | fights, | 1153.8405 |
1117 | | 1154.8012 | Did it ever like touch you? You know, you saw it. But [did it touch you?] | 1157.9918 |
1118 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1157.0403 | [<ts> I saw it.] No I saw it but | 1159.0486 |
1119 | | 1159.7120 | I never touched it. Even when I was older, my mother was like | 1161.7341 |
1121 | | 1162.1570 | nine o'clock. You gotta be home. | 1163.6255 |
1123 | | 1163.8222 | I don't care what none of your friends are doing. | 1165.7254 |
1124 | LES_int_01 | 1165.7948 | [Yeah.] | 1166.2709 |
1125 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1165.8742 | [Nine-o'clock. You gotta.] | 1166.4524 |
1126 | | 1166.5443 | no- not- no- no- not nine-o- | 1168.0358 |
1128 | | 1168.4061 | one. | 1168.8498 |
1130 | | 1169.0879 | [Nine o'clock.] | 1169.7579 |
1131 | LES_int_01 | 1169.0879 | [Yeah.] | 1169.4053 |
1132 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1170.2138 | And if I came in at nine-o-one, | 1171.7787 |
1134 | | 1172.0256 | one day without the phone. | 1172.9910 |
1136 | | 1173.3437 | [Nine fifteen] | 1174.1328 |
1137 | LES_int_01 | 1173.7043 | [Oh, shit.] | 1174.3303 |
1138 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1174.4105 | fifteen days without the phone. Nine thirty, thirty days without the phone. | 1178.1555 |
1140 | | 1178.6139 | And, if you wanna knock out some days, you have to clean out the cabinets, | 1181.9796 |
1142 | | 1182.2353 | and rearrange the linen closet | 1183.8576 |
1144 | | 1184.0295 | to knock off some days, but. | 1185.4269 |
1146 | | 1185.8434 | But, that's [what.] | 1186.3504 |
1147 | LES_int_01 | 1186.2225 | [She was] tough. | 1187.0645 |
1148 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1187.0572 | Yeah, she was tough. But, so, other than that, we really, I mean, I have to if- | 1190.0834 |
1149 | | 1190.2201 | I have to really think about | 1191.6175 |
1151 | | 1192.3537 | well, my brother | 1193.1708 |
1152 | LES_int_01 | 1193.7527 | [Mm-hm.] | 1194.0613 |
1153 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1193.9203 | [was] attacked a lot. My brother's also homosexual. | 1196.3493 |
1154 | | 1197.0943 | And [um.] | 1197.7864 |
1155 | LES_int_01 | 1197.5395 | [Oh] no. So, [I'm sh- yeah. I mean.] | 1201.1378 |
1156 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1198.8960 | [That made- that was like, that just made it-] | 1200.7542 |
1157 | | 1201.1497 | That just added- that just added fuel to it. | 1202.7131 |
1159 | | 1203.1054 | And um. | 1203.8593 |
1161 | | 1205.0410 | <ts> I watched my mother struggle with that, you know, struggle with tryna um, | 1207.9505 |
1163 | | 1208.9291 | worry about her son who wasn't accepted in the [community and] | 1211.6579 |
1164 | LES_int_01 | 1211.1818 | [Yeah.] | 1211.8298 |
1165 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1212.4307 | um, | 1212.9663 |
1166 | LES_int_01 | 1212.9663 | Sucks. | 1213.6336 |
1167 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1213.6336 | it wasn't safe for him. | 1214.7657 |
1168 | | 1215.1126 | So, like, he came home, he came home a couple of times beat up. | 1218.1073 |
1170 | | 1219.0336 | Um. Jumped. | 1219.8272 |
1172 | | 1219.9764 | And then at one point, his husband, who he's still with today, | 1221.8774 |
1173 | LES_int_01 | 1221.9784 | [Yeah.] | 1222.2418 |
1174 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1221.9916 | [they still] together, it was | 1222.8872 |
1175 | LES_int_01 | 1223.1791 | Yeah. | 1223.4206 |
1176 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1223.4206 | they're- they're going on like sixteen- seventeen years. I don't know. [Eighteen years. I'm doing a discredit.] | 1227.2851 |
1177 | LES_int_01 | 1225.4506 | [Oh, that's cool.] | 1226.8423 |
1178 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1227.3949 | [They've been together] for a long time. | 1228.8091 |
1179 | LES_int_01 | 1227.3949 | [Yeah.] | 1227.7373 |
1180 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1229.4918 | And at the time, he was actually staying with us too. And I remember them coming home one day | 1232.8767 |
1182 | | 1233.5709 | and he's a- he was a foster kid and | 1235.3446 |
1184 | | 1235.9632 | displaced out of his community, and my [mother-] My mother used to also take everybody in too. | 1239.6197 |
1185 | LES_int_01 | 1237.5728 | [Yeah.] | 1237.8267 |
1186 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1239.7997 | [I hated that.] | 1240.4627 |
1187 | LES_int_01 | 1239.7997 | [Yeah. <laugh>] | 1241.5207 |
1188 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1240.7349 | [I hated that.] | 1241.5207 |
1189 | | 1241.9191 | I- I learned, like I have to share spaces with people | 1244.4684 |
1191 | | 1244.7625 | I would be on my- I would come in the morning and all these different people woul- are on the floor, living in my house. My cousins. | 1249.7307 |
1192 | LES_int_01 | 1249.7263 | [<laugh>] | 1250.6439 |
1193 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1250.0731 | [Next door] neighbors. | 1251.1839 |
1194 | LES_int_01 | 1251.2673 | [<laugh>] | 1252.0999 |
1195 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1251.7662 | [You know.] So, that's how it touched me too. | 1253.5794 |
1196 | LES_int_01 | 1253.6585 | Yeah. | 1253.9746 |
1197 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1253.9746 | So, like, my brother, he came home beat up a couple of times. | 1256.3936 |
1198 | | 1256.7843 | Uh, | 1257.5862 |
1200 | | 1257.7926 | my cousins | 1258.6926 |
1202 | | 1258.8682 | got into some stuff. | 1259.9943 |
1204 | | 1260.0997 | My father, | 1260.6836 |
1206 | | 1260.8987 | he's addicted to [drugs.] | 1262.0446 |
1207 | LES_int_01 | 1261.8514 | [Yeah.] | 1262.4309 |
1208 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1262.4309 | So, what does that mean? Like | 1263.7919 |
1209 | | 1264.3231 | um, the people that are, um, | 1265.9991 |
1211 | | 1266.7894 | that were around me sometimes weren't- | 1268.4752 |
1213 | | 1269.4537 | could do some foul behavior, you know, [like, nasty] people, like | 1272.1054 |
1214 | LES_int_01 | 1270.9335 | [Yeah.] | 1271.5394 |
1215 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1272.2986 | My mother, one day, | 1273.0449 |
1217 | | 1273.2996 | I remember, this junkie lady kissed me, | 1275.0513 |
1219 | | 1275.4277 | and my mother makes a big deal out of it. She's like, oh your daughters are so cute. | 1278.4438 |
1221 | | 1278.5887 | Come here! | 1279.1419 |
1223 | | 1279.3526 | And my mother used to tell me, never let anybody kiss us, like she was strict with everything. | 1282.2908 |
1224 | LES_int_01 | 1282.2908 | Yeah. | 1282.7722 |
1225 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1282.7722 | And this lady was like | 1283.5376 |
1226 | | 1283.9871 | and she kissed me, and my mother, she literally went crazy. | 1287.1349 |
1228 | | 1288.0173 | Oh my gosh! [You never kiss my daughter!] | 1290.7366 |
1229 | LES_int_01 | 1289.1857 | [<laugh>] | 1291.6267 |
1230 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1291.2722 | [We don't know where] her lips were, my mother washed [my face, she would check me- took] me to the doctor to get my skin checked, it was a big thing. | 1297.8098 |
1231 | LES_int_01 | 1293.2873 | [Oh.] | 1294.8327 |
1232 | | 1297.8098 | Yeah. | 1298.1391 |
1233 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1298.1391 | But, it was like, no. No. Don't touch my children. I don't want none of the- [these things] | 1301.2392 |
1234 | LES_int_01 | 1300.7217 | [Okay.] | 1301.2392 |
1235 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1301.7046 | touching them. My brother got beat up. | 1303.0848 |
1237 | | 1303.3646 | My other brother- | 1304.3298 |
1239 | | 1304.6142 | <ts> I- I once had a gun pulled out on me. | 1306.3756 |
1241 | | 1306.6694 | But, it was like | 1307.5647 |
1243 | | 1308.5113 | if I think about it, it was this guy, his name is /RD-NAME-1/. | 1310.7075 |
1245 | | 1311.0012 | And I was ta- he was tryna talk to one of my little friends. | 1313.3942 |
1247 | | 1313.4828 | And he's my brother's age. | 1314.6205 |
1248 | LES_int_01 | 1314.6951 | Yeah. | 1315.1101 |
1249 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1315.3869 | He's tryna talk to my little friend. | 1316.7019 |
1250 | LES_int_01 | 1316.8184 | Yeah. | 1317.1355 |
1251 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1317.1355 | And I was like, I'm- was almost a little- like really like | 1319.4907 |
1252 | | 1319.7454 | outspoken. I still am, but you know. | 1321.6612 |
1253 | LES_int_01 | 1321.6612 | [No. <laugh>] | 1324.0451 |
1254 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1322.0607 | [I know, right.] | 1322.6095 |
1256 | | 1323.0222 | [I was more like, what?] | 1323.9617 |
1257 | | 1324.2075 | And I said to him, but t- should've minded my business, I said | 1326.3193 |
1259 | | 1326.9734 | That's a little girl you're messing with. You don't got enough girls your age? What you doing with that little girl? That's nasty. | 1332.2752 |
1261 | | 1332.8366 | And | 1333.4600 |
1263 | | 1333.5742 | we were still young. He was probably was sixteen, or | 1336.0772 |
1265 | | 1336.4196 | fifteen at the time. He was still a young kid, we were all still little kids, but [he had a] gun. | 1340.3034 |
1266 | LES_int_01 | 1339.4824 | [Yeah.] | 1339.8931 |
1267 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1341.0717 | He had a gun. | 1341.6731 |
1268 | LES_int_01 | 1341.8092 | Yeah. | 1342.1253 |
1269 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1342.1253 | And he [came up to me,] | 1343.0484 |
1270 | LES_int_01 | 1342.6174 | [And he-] he pulled it? | 1343.9879 |
1271 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1343.9879 | He pulled it out on me. He was like you need to open u- you need to shut your mouth up | 1347.0435 |
1272 | | 1347.4365 | or I'll take care of you- | 1348.6696 |
1274 | | 1348.7749 | I'll take care of you and your- and go- and he said, I'll take care of you, he says, and get your brother. | 1352.4057 |
1276 | | 1353.0203 | And that's when I realize, like | 1354.3462 |
1278 | | 1355.3955 | that's just like | 1356.1067 |
1280 | | 1356.5589 | that's a condition in my community | 1358.1482 |
1281 | LES_int_01 | 1358.2711 | [Yeah.] | 1358.8375 |
1282 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1358.5038 | [and my brother] | 1359.4609 |
1283 | | 1359.7945 | I realize I need to never do that again. Never open my mouth and put my family at risk, cause here it is, my brother | 1364.8647 |
1284 | LES_int_01 | 1365.0340 | [Right]. | 1365.4816 |
1285 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1365.1552 | [He wasn't] a drug dealer. | 1366.2697 |
1286 | | 1366.4981 | My brother was a basketball player. And that's what made him cool. He could dunk, | 1369.4056 |
1287 | LES_int_01 | 1369.6713 | [Yeah.] | 1369.9138 |
1288 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1369.7086 | [he was] fast, and that's why everybody respected him. That's where he got his respect. [Not from selling] drugs or anything like that, | 1374.7778 |
1289 | LES_int_01 | 1373.0672 | [Yeah.] | 1373.5335 |
1290 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1375.0343 | and that's what his- that's what his thing was, like | 1376.7922 |
1291 | LES_int_01 | 1376.9027 | [Yeah.] | 1377.3337 |
1292 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1377.0626 | [Man] and I'll shoot your punk ass brother too. And what | 1379.3790 |
1293 | | 1379.9246 | And it made me realize, man the community I was in, there's fifteen year-olds with guns. | 1383.5236 |
1295 | | 1383.9665 | And | 1384.4375 |
1296 | LES_int_01 | 1384.4375 | Yeah. | 1384.9504 |
1297 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1385.0483 | you know, my brother could- | 1386.2866 |
1299 | | 1386.4218 | could a- could potentially be | 1387.9279 |
1301 | | 1388.3511 | you know, could have gotten killed because of that. | 1390.0825 |
1302 | LES_int_01 | 1390.4649 | Yeah. | 1390.8799 |
1303 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1390.9591 | You know, [so.] | 1391.7938 |
1304 | LES_int_01 | 1391.4954 | [Yeah.] | 1391.9104 |
1305 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1392.8243 | And then that's | 1393.2180 |
1307 | | 1393.3159 | I mean, not even counting all the little hood fights that happened [but] | 1395.8209 |
1308 | LES_int_01 | 1395.6627 | [<laugh>] | 1397.0942 |
1309 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1396.0401 | [nothing crazy. Nothing] like | 1397.7144 |
1310 | | 1398.2413 | really crazy actually | 1399.5787 |
1312 | | 1400.1289 | directly affected me until later on, when I came back to the neighborhood from college. | 1404.2249 |
1313 | LES_int_01 | 1404.4580 | Okay, so you went away? | 1405.6611 |
1314 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1405.7730 | Yeah, I went away. | 1406.4118 |
1315 | LES_int_01 | 1406.5800 | Okay. | 1406.9250 |
1317 | | 1407.8390 | Um. | 1408.8368 |
1319 | | 1409.1166 | <ts> | 1409.2378 |
1321 | | 1409.5836 | And then, I mean, what was different when you came back? | 1411.8374 |
1322 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1412.4914 | <ts> | 1412.6277 |
1324 | | 1413.4393 | Man. | 1414.1434 |
1326 | | 1415.1133 | Everything. | 1415.7848 |
1328 | | 1421.5749 | Everything. | 1422.2511 |
1329 | LES_int_01 | 1422.2697 | [What?] | 1422.7127 |
1330 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1422.4236 | [And] | 1422.7127 |
1331 | | 1422.8432 | I- it was more like, [you know how] | 1424.3074 |
1332 | LES_int_01 | 1423.5707 | [What was it?] | 1424.3074 |
1333 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1425.3461 | you know, if you look at this painting, right. | 1426.7962 |
1335 | | 1427.0574 | [This painting] that's sitting there and you're staring really close to it, you could admire all the detail of everything, [and all the] colors. | 1432.0153 |
1336 | LES_int_01 | 1427.0574 | [Mm-hm.] | 1427.5535 |
1338 | | 1431.0927 | [Yeah.] | 1431.4470 |
1339 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1432.6961 | And it just took a while for me to really step back and see what was happening in my neighborhood. | 1436.7993 |
1340 | LES_int_01 | 1436.9812 | Yeah. | 1437.3729 |
1341 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1437.3729 | You know, and then see the whole full picture. | 1439.1467 |
1342 | LES_int_01 | 1439.3006 | [Yeah.] | 1439.7342 |
1343 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1439.5104 | [So, it] looked very beautiful | 1440.7600 |
1344 | | 1441.1647 | at- | 1441.3652 |
1346 | | 1441.5564 | at the time. | 1442.1766 |
1347 | LES_int_01 | 1442.1766 | Yeah. | 1442.5776 |
1348 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1442.8853 | And when you say revitalize, like these- I ca- I put them in like- I've been doing these- when I do workshops, I'm like, let's put down some new | 1448.3990 |
1350 | | 1449.0199 | bad curse words, like revitalize. | 1451.4845 |
1352 | | 1451.8482 | Like | 1452.2632 |
1354 | | 1452.5243 | deconcentrate | 1453.6291 |
1355 | LES_int_01 | 1453.6823 | [<laugh>] | 1454.1252 |
1356 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1454.0301 | [like,] | 1454.7528 |
1357 | | 1455.0419 | these are these new | 1456.2962 |
1358 | LES_int_01 | 1456.4892 | [Yeah.] | 1456.9275 |
1359 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1456.5638 | [bad] words. | 1457.6529 |
1360 | | 1457.9653 | Tha- we didn't ne- we never knew what- | 1459.4201 |
1362 | | 1459.5880 | would hurt us. | 1460.4320 |
1363 | LES_int_01 | 1460.4973 | [Yeah.] | 1460.9496 |
1364 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1460.5299 | [Revitalize] our community? That [sounds great.] | 1462.7888 |
1365 | LES_int_01 | 1462.2496 | [Sound- sounds] pretty [good.] | 1463.6018 |
1366 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1463.3034 | [Sounds] pretty good. | 1464.3945 |
1367 | LES_int_01 | 1464.3945 | Yeah. | 1464.8468 |
1368 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1464.8468 | But, no. It's not gonna always be | 1466.7667 |
1369 | | 1467.4102 | you know, a- positive things that are coming out of that. | 1469.2987 |
1370 | LES_int_01 | 1469.4712 | [Right.] | 1469.7743 |
1371 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1469.6344 | [And] when- when I first- when I've | 1471.0100 |
1372 | | 1471.4145 | when I w- | 1472.0114 |
1374 | | 1473.7133 | I remember like | 1474.3055 |
1376 | | 1475.0236 | programs were thriving | 1476.3199 |
1377 | LES_int_01 | 1476.5064 | Yeah. | 1476.8654 |
1378 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1477.2793 | <ts> and I remember | 1478.2632 |
1380 | | 1478.5196 | uh. Kids were /very/ involved and- and- and- | 1481.6997 |
1382 | | 1482.1847 | and I noticed too, like this is um, | 1484.0618 |
1384 | | 1484.3509 | simultaneously, funding stopped- | 1485.5400 |
1386 | | 1485.7032 | started getting cut from um, programs | 1487.7455 |
1388 | | 1487.8714 | locally. | 1488.2930 |
1389 | LES_int_01 | 1488.3862 | Okay. | 1488.7360 |
1390 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1488.7919 | This is like maybe like. Yeah, like | 1490.4662 |
1392 | | 1491.3661 | almost like twenty years ago. | 1492.6624 |
1393 | LES_int_01 | 1492.8209 | Okay. | 1493.1007 |
1394 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1493.1007 | When Giuliani and /unintelligible/ and [Pataki] | 1495.9752 |
1395 | LES_int_01 | 1495.6721 | [Yeah.] | 1496.4181 |
1396 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1496.2596 | [They] started cutting [programs.] | 1497.6771 |
1397 | LES_int_01 | 1497.3507 | [Yeah.] Yeah. [Yeah.] | 1498.3066 |
1398 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1498.1061 | [Tremendously.] | 1498.9546 |
1399 | LES_int_01 | 1499.0665 | Yeah. | 1499.4256 |
1400 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1499.4256 | In the neighborhoods. | 1500.3581 |
1401 | LES_int_01 | 1500.3581 | Yeah. | 1500.7638 |
1402 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1500.8431 | And | 1501.2534 |
1404 | | 1502.1847 | that affected | 1503.0179 |
1406 | | 1503.2528 | a lot. I used to coach basketball. | 1504.8615 |
1407 | LES_int_01 | 1505.1584 | Okay. | 1505.5484 |
1408 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1505.7124 | I was one of those l- that's another thing that's a memory | 1507.5773 |
1410 | | 1507.9229 | when I was a little girl, I was this tomboy | 1509.5583 |
1412 | | 1509.8818 | and | 1510.4136 |
1414 | | 1510.6219 | they was like- I used to always come, and they was like, you know what, | 1512.6029 |
1416 | | 1512.8645 | if you want little girls- Cause I kept on saying, I want little girls, they say, you know what? You want little girls, | 1516.2592 |
1418 | | 1516.3877 | go get 'em. | 1516.9284 |
1420 | | 1517.9920 | And I said | 1518.4441 |
1422 | | 1518.6701 | oh. | 1519.0335 |
1424 | | 1519.2295 | And then if I get little girls, we could have a team? | 1521.0687 |
1426 | | 1521.4942 | He said, yeah. | 1522.0683 |
1427 | LES_int_01 | 1522.8129 | Oh. | 1523.1585 |
1428 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1523.1585 | So, I'm like, no problem. | 1524.1246 |
1429 | | 1524.5324 | Me and I could tell you right, my homegirl, /RD-NAME-2/, we still talk to this day, we still work together | 1528.3274 |
1431 | | 1528.4781 | actually. Like, she works | 1529.5064 |
1433 | | 1529.9850 | with youths, and I work here, but we actually bridged those gaps. She has her youth come and organize with us and do | 1534.7946 |
1434 | LES_int_01 | 1532.7496 | [Yeah.] | 1533.2194 |
1435 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1535.0693 | organize with public housing, but both of us went and we | 1537.6575 |
1437 | | 1538.1893 | did recruiting | 1538.9081 |
1439 | | 1539.2803 | for- for youth. For girls, and we came up with all of these little girls | 1542.0986 |
1440 | LES_int_01 | 1542.0986 | Yeah. | 1542.4842 |
1441 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1542.4975 | they were none of our- none of the- our age. | 1544.3943 |
1443 | | 1544.9092 | [So, we] wind up becoming junior coaches, and we started our own little program. | 1548.1513 |
1444 | LES_int_01 | 1544.9092 | [Yeah.] | 1545.1796 |
1445 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1548.3064 | This was- just is- very [true.] | 1549.7866 |
1446 | LES_int_01 | 1549.5248 | [How] old were you? | 1550.5799 |
1447 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1550.6153 | Literally, I was like probably like fourteen, fifteen. | 1553.1265 |
1448 | LES_int_01 | 1553.1886 | Oh. That's [so cool.] | 1554.7707 |
1449 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1554.1104 | [Fourteen, fifteen.] | 1555.1341 |
1450 | | 1555.3557 | And [we had a team.] | 1556.3611 |
1451 | LES_int_01 | 1555.4614 | [Yeah.] | 1555.8559 |
1452 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1556.7112 | And we had practices. [And we had] the gym on certain hours, for [certain hours] for certain days. [We did it.] | 1561.3220 |
1453 | LES_int_01 | 1557.8201 | [<laugh>] | 1558.1791 |
1455 | | 1559.6096 | [Yeah.] | 1560.0665 |
1457 | | 1560.8727 | [Yeah.] | 1561.1651 |
1458 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1561.7785 | We did it. | 1562.2749 |
1460 | | 1562.6161 | But, I used- so I used to coach basketball. | 1564.4462 |
1462 | | 1564.7640 | And one of the- a lot of little girls that we coached | 1566.8381 |
1464 | | 1567.1705 | they pregnant now. | 1567.9549 |
1466 | | 1568.4063 | They have babies and | 1569.4744 |
1468 | | 1570.2854 | And- and I- I mean, I'm not trying to say that that was the end all be all of the programs, but [they didn't] have no- anywhere to go. When we cut that program there was really nothing for those kids to do. | 1578.6939 |
1469 | LES_int_01 | 1574.4085 | [Yeah.] | 1574.8162 |
1470 | | 1578.8047 | Yeah. | 1579.2524 |
1471 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1579.6867 | And uh- [so I] came back and now a lot of them are | 1582.3336 |
1472 | LES_int_01 | 1580.7717 | [Yeah.] | 1581.0154 |
1473 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1582.4134 | pregnant and | 1583.2155 |
1475 | | 1583.5789 | addicted to [drugs and.] | 1584.8406 |
1476 | LES_int_01 | 1584.4411 | [Right.] | 1584.8229 |
1477 | | 1584.9159 | Right. [Go i- go for it. No, don't worry about it.] | 1586.6177 |
1478 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1585.3104 | [Oh sorry. Let me] | 1586.2410 |
1480 | | 1586.3696 | [turn this] off. | 1586.8792 |
1481 | LES_int_01 | 1586.8792 | Don't worry. I can pause it too. Don't worry about it. | 1588.4436 |