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1 | LES_int_01 | 0.3593 | We're back on. Okay, so I mean | 1.9468 |
3 | | 2.1851 | so, there's a couple like f- | 3.3817 |
5 | | 4.0155 | s- forces going on right? I mean this- there's some stuff- | 6.7673 |
7 | | 6.8648 | still some tough stuff happening in your community, but at the same time, now, back this gentrification. | 12.0957 |
8 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 12.2907 | [Yeah.] | 12.7427 |
9 | LES_int_01 | 12.4016 | [That's coming] in. | 13.2487 |
10 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 13.2709 | And then. [Okay.] | 13.8192 |
11 | LES_int_01 | 13.6508 | [So, how do things] interact? Like [/inaudible/] | 16.0041 |
12 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 13.9079 | [This is.] | 14.4219 |
14 | | 15.4545 | [Alright. I got] friends from w- from [college.] | 17.9452 |
15 | LES_int_01 | 17.8964 | [Yeah.] | 18.2465 |
16 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 18.2465 | And they come down here and they're pissed off | 19.9395 |
17 | | 20.5327 | about what the change has been. | 21.8578 |
18 | LES_int_01 | 21.9908 | [Yeah.] | 22.2966 |
19 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 22.1459 | [Because] | 22.6289 |
20 | | 22.9392 | they w- g- they remember when this place when nobody really wanted to be here. | 26.2920 |
21 | LES_int_01 | 26.3718 | Right. | 26.7219 |
22 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 26.8637 | And, so when the first, when like- when the | 28.4865 |
24 | | 28.6727 | bars started first, like tha- remember I told you that close | 31.1899 |
26 | | 31.5710 | the up close? [Like the beautiful.] | 32.9094 |
27 | LES_int_01 | 32.1923 | [Yeah.] | 32.7197 |
28 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 33.1487 | So, you see bars and | 34.2347 |
30 | | 34.4784 | I'm twenty-one, and I'm like, yeah, I can drink [and] | 37.0178 |
31 | LES_int_01 | 36.9070 | [Yeah.] | 37.3591 |
32 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 37.3591 | I'm identifying with my community in a different way. [I'm older.] | 40.1643 |
33 | LES_int_01 | 39.4242 | [Right.] | 39.8497 |
34 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 40.4923 | I'm a- | 40.7493 |
36 | | 40.8699 | coming home from college and | 42.4018 |
38 | | 42.8023 | wow. This is, you know. | 44.0034 |
40 | | 44.1408 | This- I- cause I went away to school, but um. | 46.1484 |
42 | | 46.5694 | It was very close. So, [I w- sometimes] I came home on the weekends. | 49.1304 |
43 | LES_int_01 | 47.5615 | [Yeah.] | 47.8518 |
44 | | 49.1304 | Okay. | 49.5207 |
45 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 49.6311 | Um. Especially when I stopped playing basketball and | 52.1129 |
47 | | 52.2858 | I used to work here. So I- since I- you know I said- | 54.1536 |
49 | | 54.6019 | you [know, st-] | 55.3509 |
50 | LES_int_01 | 54.9609 | [/Yet/] you stayed kind of connected. | 56.6709 |
51 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 56.6228 | Yeah. Very | 57.0704 |
52 | | 57.1723 | yeah. So I stayed /conne-/ connected. | 58.7279 |
54 | | 59.1939 | And um. | 59.6282 |
56 | | 60.5999 | Yeah, we'd come down. We'd come down here | 62.2307 |
58 | | 62.4612 | And we'd frolic these little- we'd frequent these little bars and stuff like [that.] | 65.8110 |
59 | LES_int_01 | 65.4564 | [Yeah.] Yeah. | 66.1788 |
60 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 66.2541 | And um, people from the neighborhood was in the bars. | 68.5492 |
61 | LES_int_01 | 68.7619 | Yeah. | 69.1120 |
62 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 69.2273 | And I would go in there and be like | 70.0161 |
64 | | 70.1180 | oh, oh yeah, we're all grown up, we can drink, uh. | 72.7925 |
65 | LES_int_01 | 72.8723 | <laugh> [Right.] | 73.7365 |
66 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 73.5194 | [And I] thought, aye this is nice. | 75.4693 |
67 | | 75.7264 | [Oh. I'm seeing] some trees and some nice good things happening. | 78.3336 |
68 | LES_int_01 | 75.7264 | [Yeah.] | 76.0955 |
69 | | 78.3336 | Yeah. | 78.8388 |
70 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 78.8388 | Hm. | 79.1740 |
71 | | 79.6083 | This is good. | 80.6276 |
72 | LES_int_01 | 80.8536 | Right. | 81.1949 |
73 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 81.7400 | I'm seeing a patch of grass. | 83.3443 |
74 | LES_int_01 | 83.3620 | [Yeah.] | 83.8938 |
75 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 83.7165 | [You don't] see a patch of grass, now you put it next to a church. | 86.2349 |
76 | | 86.5495 | Now, we seeing a patch of grass | 87.8303 |
78 | | 88.0918 | in a place where I used to s- play with glass. | 90.1714 |
80 | | 90.4329 | [Like I just told you, now it's] grass here. | 92.4183 |
81 | LES_int_01 | 90.4329 | [Yeah.] | 91.0622 |
83 | | 91.2262 | [Yeah.] | 91.6963 |
84 | | 93.0432 | [And is that what other] people thought? | 94.5791 |
85 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 93.2318 | [This is good.] | 93.9099 |
86 | | 94.6544 | Yeah. [This is.] | 95.3192 |
87 | LES_int_01 | 95.0141 | [initially, they were like-] | 96.0599 |
88 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 95.6028 | [Yeah.] | 95.9618 |
89 | | 96.1833 | This is good. | 96.7550 |
90 | LES_int_01 | 96.7550 | you're like alright. | 97.6015 |
91 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 97.6015 | Yeah. | 97.8674 |
92 | | 98.0004 | The waterfront. | 98.6996 |
94 | | 99.0098 | It was, you know, homeless people who always relegated on the waterfront. [It was] nothing to walk | 103.0674 |
95 | LES_int_01 | 101.7923 | [Yeah.] | 102.2233 |
96 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 103.5301 | you know, walk by. [And] | 104.6912 |
97 | LES_int_01 | 104.4430 | [Yeah.] | 104.9084 |
98 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 105.4047 | I was just bike riding over there on the waterfront. I'm like, it is fucking bike lanes and shit like that. | 109.6385 |
100 | | 109.8646 | Why am I resenting these things? | 111.4600 |
101 | LES_int_01 | 111.4600 | Yeah. | 111.8367 |
102 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 111.8367 | And I'm thinking, you know why I resent this shit? Cause it should have been here ten years ago. | 115.0665 |
103 | | 115.3723 | It's so- | 116.1523 |
105 | | 116.8441 | it's so | 117.6374 |
107 | | 117.9166 | late | 118.3420 |
109 | | 119.1362 | you know. | 119.5838 |
110 | LES_int_01 | 119.5838 | Uh-huh. | 120.0624 |
111 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 120.0624 | And so | 121.0152 |
112 | | 121.5559 | you know y- uh. Uh. I never- it didn't til then like people would come into the bars, and then now, | 126.1316 |
114 | | 126.6900 | more and more, I'm coming to these bars | 128.4818 |
116 | | 128.7965 | and there's new people coming in. | 129.9982 |
118 | | 130.2110 | And they're not even from the neighborhood. | 131.6203 |
119 | LES_int_01 | 131.6601 | Yeah. | 132.1710 |
120 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 132.2407 | And now, the bar | 133.5028 |
122 | | 133.6934 | the- the- the guys at the bouncers are telling us that we can't come in. | 136.9272 |
124 | | 137.6186 | And that we don't have the right dress codes. | 139.5891 |
125 | LES_int_01 | 140.1796 | What? | 140.5164 |
126 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 141.4338 | And [it's l-] | 142.0454 |
127 | LES_int_01 | 141.8238 | [Really?] | 142.1783 |
128 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 142.2891 | Yeah. | 142.6924 |
130 | | 143.0744 | And then I'm no- s- only s- I'm seeing this as this patterning. | 145.8974 |
131 | LES_int_01 | 146.1323 | [Yeah.] | 146.5533 |
132 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 146.2165 | [Where] old money | 147.3453 |
133 | | 148.3779 | is now old. | 149.2421 |
134 | LES_int_01 | 149.7651 | [Yeah.] | 150.1994 |
135 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 149.9290 | [Now, people] want new money. | 151.1254 |
136 | | 151.6971 | And I've seen this spill into | 152.9867 |
138 | | 153.1374 | businesses, | 153.9174 |
140 | | 154.3871 | into where the land is used, | 155.9666 |
141 | LES_int_01 | 155.9666 | Mm-hm. | 156.4718 |
142 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 156.6845 | the way businesses run. Yeah, there- | 158.1672 |
144 | | 158.3253 | this stuff, and the way landlords are- | 159.8942 |
146 | | 160.0797 | harass residents. | 161.0813 |
147 | LES_int_01 | 161.1832 | [Yeah.] | 161.6043 |
148 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 161.3162 | [We don't] want you old residents anymore. | 163.3415 |
149 | LES_int_01 | 163.4354 | [Right.] | 163.9530 |
150 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 163.7944 | [Your money] was good to sustain us. | 165.4863 |
151 | LES_int_01 | 165.5484 | Yeah. | 165.8985 |
152 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 165.9251 | But now we got new people coming in. | 167.2683 |
153 | LES_int_01 | 167.3392 | Yeah. | 167.7558 |
154 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 167.7691 | And that's what I was feeling, like this money that I've invested in this community for ye- I'm twenty-nine years old. | 172.2882 |
155 | LES_int_01 | 172.4256 | [Yeah.] | 172.7668 |
156 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 172.5984 | [How much] money did I put in this neighborhood? | 174.3674 |
157 | | 174.5713 | [With my] little checks. | 175.6571 |
158 | LES_int_01 | 174.5713 | [Yeah.] | 174.9200 |
159 | | 175.8817 | Yeah. | 176.3116 |
160 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 176.6396 | Now, w- it's not for me anymore? | 178.3458 |
161 | LES_int_01 | 178.5009 | Yeah. | 178.8998 |
162 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 179.2233 | My first little dollar, I went right across the street to some bakery and bought something. | 182.3914 |
164 | | 182.6795 | This is my neighborhood. I've invested in it. | 184.3591 |
165 | LES_int_01 | 184.5408 | Yeah. | 184.9396 |
166 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 184.9396 | And m- when- when the parks weren't safe, | 187.3244 |
167 | | 187.7853 | that was a- that was | 188.7469 |
169 | | 189.1015 | my mother and- and | 190.4774 |
171 | | 191.0048 | <ts> and parents, they s- | 192.3064 |
173 | | 192.4394 | they went and made complaints about that. | 194.1855 |
174 | LES_int_01 | 194.7410 | Right. | 195.0290 |
175 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 195.0246 | You know, [they did.] | 195.8578 |
176 | LES_int_01 | 195.4279 | [Right.] | 195.7204 |
177 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 196.1148 | They did community clean ups. | 197.7097 |
179 | | 198.1351 | It was us when the city wouldn't even do it. | 199.8369 |
180 | LES_int_01 | 200.0452 | Yeah. | 200.4308 |
181 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 201.2684 | So, | 202.0350 |
183 | | 202.5175 | it's like, wow. | 203.4836 |
185 | | 203.6875 | And now I can't even go to no bar here. | 205.4469 |
187 | | 205.9743 | Then I was looking for waitressing. This is when it was really hitting me. I'm [looking for] waitressing jobs in the middle. | 210.0856 |
188 | LES_int_01 | 208.5212 | [Yeah.] | 208.8625 |
189 | | 210.0856 | Yeah. | 210.3405 |
190 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 210.3405 | And I th- my school let us out early, you'd get out in May. | 213.0616 |
191 | LES_int_01 | 213.2610 | Yeah. | 213.5325 |
192 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 213.4737 | S- I thought this was a benefit man, I'm like yo, [this] is a benefit. | 216.3095 |
193 | LES_int_01 | 215.3605 | [Yeah.] | 215.6319 |
194 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 216.5311 | We get out in May, I could definitely get me a little job. | 218.8843 |
195 | LES_int_01 | 218.8843 | Yeah, [yeah.] | 219.3284 |
196 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 219.2211 | [I-] I'm ahead of everybody. | 220.1784 |
197 | LES_int_01 | 220.1784 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 221.0337 |
198 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 221.6010 | No. | 221.9068 |
200 | | 222.7763 | Could not find a job. | 223.7006 |
202 | | 223.7892 | And I- | 224.0551 |
204 | | 224.1659 | And I'd say | 224.9503 |
206 | | 225.2472 | that I really- it was discrimination. | 227.2238 |
208 | | 227.4542 | I really feel it, because | 228.5943 |
210 | | 229.7769 | I- I know how to look for a job. | 231.0932 |
212 | | 231.3990 | Kay. I'm [I know how to look for a job. Trust me.] | 233.6946 |
213 | LES_int_01 | 231.8268 | [Yeah.] | 232.1725 |
215 | | 232.3675 | [<laugh>] | 232.7390 |
217 | | 233.1120 | [Yeah.] | 233.3292 |
218 | | 233.6946 | <laugh> | 234.0802 |
219 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 234.0802 | And when the job openings were there, I came, I was there, | 237.0127 |
220 | | 237.3451 | <ts> and um. | 238.1146 |
222 | | 238.8724 | <ts> All I did was leave resumes in every places and stuff like [that.] | 241.6467 |
223 | LES_int_01 | 241.5929 | [Yeah.] | 241.8810 |
224 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 242.1779 | And it really hit me when I was leaving one guy | 244.2741 |
226 | | 244.3982 | he- fo- one guy he had a- he was doing interviews. | 246.4440 |
227 | LES_int_01 | 246.4440 | Yeah. | 246.7232 |
228 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 247.0112 | And he's like | 247.5568 |
230 | | 247.9459 | he's just | 248.4195 |
232 | | 248.5034 | finished this lady, and I said, oh. I'm here for an interview. | 250.5224 |
233 | LES_int_01 | 250.6761 | Yeah. | 251.0141 |
234 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 251.0668 | He- he wasn't even acknowledging me either. He's like | 253.0936 |
236 | | 253.5897 | after he just interviewed her, he walked and started cutting lemons, and I was like | 256.6777 |
238 | | 257.0098 | Oh, I'm- I'm here for a interview, it says that you're doing interviews, so I'm here for that. | 259.8240 |
239 | LES_int_01 | 259.8832 | Yeah. | 260.2069 |
240 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 260.2411 | He's like, oh yeah. Okay. | 261.3914 |
242 | | 261.9094 | I said | 262.2694 |
244 | | 262.5021 | so, | 262.8841 |
246 | | 263.0553 | are you | 263.4636 |
248 | | 263.6436 | you know. | 263.9679 |
250 | | 264.0294 | he says, no. We're not doing it anymore. | 265.2762 |
252 | | 265.5089 | I said | 265.7767 |
254 | | 265.9216 | oh, okay. | 266.7382 |
256 | | 267.1904 | Is there a time where I can come back? He's like | 268.5937 |
258 | | 268.9098 | Nah. Just leave your resume. | 269.9723 |
260 | | 270.0601 | Just leave it. | 270.4991 |
262 | | 270.7362 | And I said, okay. Thank you. | 271.7811 |
264 | | 272.2289 | So then, | 272.6811 |
266 | | 273.1465 | I | 273.6338 |
268 | | 273.8489 | walked out, and I said, I- let me just go back in and ask him when is a good time to call. | 277.2938 |
270 | | 277.4957 | So, I went back. | 278.1060 |
272 | | 278.4144 | This motherfucker was throwing my resume in the garbage. | 280.8274 |
274 | | 282.9978 | Throwing my resume in the fucking [garbage.] | 284.8772 |
275 | LES_int_01 | 284.3111 | [Yeah.] | 284.7237 |
276 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 285.4787 | I got my k- I got my way back with them | 287.2921 |
278 | | 287.5160 | they used to keep this um, | 288.7174 |
280 | | 288.8754 | freaking sign in front of the | 290.0213 |
282 | | 290.1223 | the store all the time. | 291.1803 |
283 | LES_int_01 | 291.1803 | Yeah. | 291.6369 |
284 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 291.6852 | Man. I called, make so many complaints. And m- I don't know how [many fines] they got. | 294.5202 |
285 | LES_int_01 | 293.7915 | [<laugh>] | 294.1251 |
286 | | 294.6783 | [<laugh>] | 295.4625 |
287 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 294.9532 | [And uh- and you] can follow up. It's real. | 296.6303 |
288 | | 296.7708 | It's- happens. All you gotta- people [don't even know.] | 298.7245 |
289 | LES_int_01 | 298.1524 | [<laugh>] | 299.3510 |
290 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 298.9133 | [All you got to do] is call three-one-one. | 300.5903 |
291 | LES_int_01 | 300.5903 | Yeah. | 300.8813 |
292 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 300.8274 | Make the complaint, they'll give you a ticket number, a reference, you'll follow up | 304.1723 |
293 | | 304.4488 | It's so [easy. It's so easy.] And I got- they got at least | 307.4046 |
294 | LES_int_01 | 305.0934 | [<laugh>] | 306.2623 |
295 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 307.8524 | two fines from me. | 308.6646 |
297 | | 308.9280 | Cause I never [kept track.] | 310.0563 |
298 | LES_int_01 | 309.3666 | [Good for you. Good for you. (laughing)] | 311.8076 |
299 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 310.2139 | [Yeah. Fuck that.] | 311.0612 |
301 | | 311.5968 | [Fuck that.] | 312.0490 |
302 | | 312.4382 | But, I'm like wow. All these people that work in the n- | 314.7607 |
304 | | 314.9012 | work in | 315.5641 |
306 | | 315.7222 | in these stores, they're not even from the neighborhood. | 317.8207 |
307 | LES_int_01 | 317.9437 | [Yeah.] | 318.2264 |
308 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 318.0139 | [I thought] it must be a benefit. | 319.3822 |
309 | | 319.6280 | But he- that was what he used to work against me. | 321.9900 |
310 | LES_int_01 | 322.1963 | Yeah. | 322.7151 |
311 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 322.7825 | He probably thought | 323.6517 |
313 | | 323.9371 | um man, and this is what um, | 325.4327 |
315 | | 326.2756 | another guy told me | 327.2634 |
316 | LES_int_01 | 327.3512 | Yeah. | 327.6717 |
317 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 327.7859 | He was like, um | 328.6903 |
319 | | 329.7483 | we usually don't | 330.5325 |
321 | | 331.0140 | we- we had somebody here local. I said, I worked here | 333.3182 |
323 | | 333.7791 | <ts> I said, I'm local. | 334.4772 |
325 | | 334.8240 | And um. | 335.2938 |
327 | | 335.5352 | <ts> I'm flexible, I'm saying all things they wanna hear. | 337.0850 |
328 | LES_int_01 | 337.1245 | Yeah. | 337.4494 |
329 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 337.4757 | I'm like, I'm right here, so | 338.4240 |
331 | | 338.8411 | whenever you need me, I'm on call. | 340.0880 |
332 | LES_int_01 | 340.1977 | Yeah. | 340.5182 |
333 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 340.8211 | That's a- that seems like a benefit for a restaurant. | 342.6420 |
334 | LES_int_01 | 342.8483 | Sure. | 343.2610 |
335 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 343.2610 | Mm. Like, yeah. | 344.1391 |
336 | | 344.4157 | But, | 344.7581 |
338 | | 345.1532 | we had some guy here | 346.0845 |
340 | | 346.3435 | and he was hooking up his friends. | 347.8011 |
342 | | 348.9821 | So, I was like, well that's that guy. | 350.2465 |
343 | LES_int_01 | 350.5450 | Yeah. | 350.9709 |
344 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 350.9797 | You know what I'm saying? [Uh.] | 351.9516 |
345 | LES_int_01 | 351.7013 | [Yeah.] | 352.0920 |
346 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 352.5838 | And um. | 353.3038 |
348 | | 353.5496 | He did. They hired me. | 354.6955 |
350 | | 354.9545 | They hired me to work, but then that made me realize, | 357.5184 |
352 | | 358.1814 | like, um. | 359.1165 |
354 | | 360.8589 | <ts> Just why people were not- | 362.1759 |
356 | | 362.2945 | it made me | 362.7544 |
358 | | 362.9334 | k- put things in perspective [for me.] | 364.2289 |
359 | LES_int_01 | 364.0485 | [Right.] Right. [Right. Right.] | 365.8968 |
360 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 365.1066 | [So, now I'm seeing the] neighborhood change a lot. | 366.8627 |
361 | | 367.1876 | The streets are getting more crowded. | 368.5090 |
363 | | 368.6978 | Our neighborhood is no longer a neighborhood, it is a destination. | 371.2709 |
364 | LES_int_01 | 371.5400 | [Yeah.] | 371.9175 |
365 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 371.7902 | [I] look on the internet. There's flashy beautiful colors. | 374.3366 |
366 | | 374.6922 | [And it's describing] the Lower East Side like some real hipster place. | 377.8356 |
367 | LES_int_01 | 374.6922 | [Yeah.] | 375.0654 |
368 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 378.1254 | to go and have fun, and party at. | 380.2601 |
370 | | 380.5762 | And it's not talking about the churches, | 382.3455 |
372 | | 382.5826 | it's not talking about the schools, | 384.1543 |
373 | LES_int_01 | 384.3474 | [Yeah.] | 384.7784 |
374 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 384.3650 | [it's not talking] about the families and hospitals. Like | 387.1363 |
375 | | 387.3910 | things that constitute communities like | 389.3798 |
377 | | 389.7354 | they're not talking about | 390.7452 |
379 | | 391.0261 | those things in these | 392.0121 |
381 | | 392.1263 | flashy little [websites.] | 393.7964 |
382 | LES_int_01 | 393.6779 | [Yeah.] | 394.0291 |
383 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 394.6613 | They're talking about | 395.4427 |
385 | | 396.6852 | destination. | 397.4711 |
386 | LES_int_01 | 397.5676 | [Yeah.] | 398.0030 |
387 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 397.7169 | [Then they're] not punching gentrification | 399.4637 |
388 | | 399.7745 | on Google, that shit. | 400.7105 |
389 | LES_int_01 | 401.9222 | [Like what comes up? (laughing) <laugh>] | 404.5981 |
390 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 402.2976 | [My neighborhood comes up.] | 403.5796 |
392 | | 404.0976 | [That's fucked up.] | 404.9054 |
393 | | 405.1179 | That does- that d- that is really- that f- like imagine like just growing up here and seeing that shit. That will fuck you're head up. | 411.4097 |
394 | LES_int_01 | 411.4800 | Yeah. | 411.9346 |
395 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 411.8707 | Like wow. Places where | 412.9156 |
396 | | 413.0122 | it was crack vials | 414.0269 |
398 | | 414.3649 | everywhere. Now people wanna live here? | 416.0332 |
399 | LES_int_01 | 416.3406 | Yeah. | 416.6040 |
400 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 416.6567 | Or, when they saw a beautiful, | 417.8678 |
402 | | 418.3332 | at the end of the day, I can't enjoy that? | 419.8873 |
403 | LES_int_01 | 420.0322 | Yeah. | 420.4581 |
404 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 421.1413 | It's something seriously wrong- | 423.0851 |
406 | | 423.6759 | wrong with that. | 424.3363 |
407 | LES_int_01 | 424.7710 | Yeah. So, you talked about community. Um. | 427.5709 |
409 | | 427.7640 | I mean, first of all, like, what- what does that word mean to you? How do you define | 431.3739 |
411 | | 431.6374 | community? | 432.2680 |
412 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 433.5149 | <ts> Alright, well | 434.3402 |
414 | | 435.1612 | you could break it up. | 435.9076 |
415 | LES_int_01 | 436.4476 | Yeah. | 436.8295 |
416 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 437.9758 | Um. | 438.4894 |
418 | | 441.2231 | <ts> And | 441.8992 |
420 | | 443.1723 | When you put the- when you break up the word, | 445.0455 |
422 | | 445.7918 | you know, like come- k- k- like | 447.5392 |
424 | | 448.9177 | unity. | 449.5499 |
425 | LES_int_01 | 449.7478 | Yeah. | 449.9981 |
426 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 449.9981 | You know. Come and unify. | 451.1606 |
427 | LES_int_01 | 451.3186 | Yeah. | 451.7357 |
428 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 451.8586 | Come and unite. | 452.6840 |
429 | LES_int_01 | 452.9951 | Right. | 453.3683 |
430 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 453.7546 | Come-unity. | 454.5756 |
431 | LES_int_01 | 454.7995 | Right. | 455.1990 |
432 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 455.2956 | I- you know. | 455.9893 |
434 | | 456.9222 | And what I think about is like, um. | 458.9813 |
436 | | 459.2579 | Well, people actually tell me that | 461.0359 |
438 | | 461.8613 | a lot- they don't have um. | 463.0950 |
440 | | 463.3765 | <ts> People tell me that wow, you know what, your neighborhood is really like a village. | 466.1983 |
442 | | 466.7251 | Like, you know, like | 467.4759 |
444 | | 467.9939 | you really | 468.5647 |
446 | | 468.7995 | people that come from outside, they [be like.] | 470.1474 |
447 | LES_int_01 | 469.8777 | [Like] a urban [village] | 471.3020 |
448 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 471.1948 | [Yeah.] They're [like] | 471.8973 |
449 | LES_int_01 | 471.9043 | thing. | 472.4241 |
450 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 472.4856 | Well, they're no- not like a vill- more like a- | 474.6836 |
452 | | 474.7802 | a k- like a real sense of community, like | 476.6021 |
453 | LES_int_01 | 476.7734 | [Yeah.] | 477.1860 |
454 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 476.9270 | [I went] to school with people | 478.3626 |
455 | | 478.8133 | that I still s- I- I went to | 480.3367 |
457 | | 480.6265 | p- I went to elementary school, and I still see these people. | 482.7311 |
458 | LES_int_01 | 482.7311 | Yeah [yeah.] | 483.4625 |
459 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 483.3150 | [And] my f- my sister's woman. | 484.5443 |
460 | | 484.8984 | She was telling me, that, you know, she goes back to her neighborhood in Staton I- Long Island or Staton Island. One of those. | 489.4467 |
462 | | 489.5696 | No, Long Island. | 490.2150 |
463 | LES_int_01 | 490.3072 | Yeah. | 490.6859 |
464 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 490.9142 | And | 491.4410 |
466 | | 491.9766 | The block isn't the same, you know, everybody's not, you know. She doesn't know everybody walking down the street, and then [she- you know,] if she does she just met them. | 499.1668 |
467 | LES_int_01 | 497.0582 | [Yeah.] | 497.4616 |
468 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 499.5312 | Where, when I'm walking down the street, I've known these people | 501.7142 |
470 | | 501.8717 | since I was five. | 502.6664 |
471 | LES_int_01 | 502.6752 | [Right.] | 503.0521 |
472 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 502.8639 | [Or] | 503.2195 |
473 | | 503.8424 | you know, I've seen or we | 505.0673 |
475 | | 505.1814 | it's very- it's deep how it's very like villagey over here. | 508.3848 |
477 | | 508.9204 | Like everybody's been in each other's lives and then | 510.6897 |
479 | | 511.1990 | a- for- for many [years.] | 512.6550 |
480 | LES_int_01 | 512.5804 | [Right.] | 512.9931 |
481 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 512.9931 | For many years. It's deep. | 514.3936 |
482 | LES_int_01 | 514.7536 | [Okay.] | 515.0214 |
483 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 514.8941 | [And I'm] like wow. I don't wanna take | 516.0399 |
484 | | 516.4043 | I- I don't I wouldn't- I don't take that for granted. | 518.4689 |
486 | | 518.7323 | Like- [like] my friend | 519.7552 |
487 | LES_int_01 | 518.9055 | [Okay.] | 519.1909 |
488 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 520.0318 | she- before I came here, I came here, I said, I have to go, I have a interview. I have to leave, I have to go. You know. | 523.3573 |
490 | | 523.9543 | Um. Do this interview. | 524.9187 |
492 | | 525.1997 | Um. | 525.5597 |
494 | | 526.4904 | <ts> But I went to- I went to preschool with her. | 528.9841 |
496 | | 529.5373 | And | 529.9327 |
497 | LES_int_01 | 529.9327 | [Yeah.] | 530.4025 |
498 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 530.1566 | [We were] ketchup sisters. | 531.3270 |
499 | | 531.4894 | [Cause our mothers] would whoop our asses if we cut out, did [some blood sister shit.] | 535.3002 |
500 | LES_int_01 | 531.4894 | [<laugh>] | 532.0165 |
502 | | 534.3199 | [<laugh>] | 535.1365 |
503 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 535.6734 | So, that was my ketchup sister. | 537.0135 |
504 | LES_int_01 | 537.0135 | [<laugh>] | 537.7402 |
505 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 537.4218 | [We-] you know, I still see her. | 539.0248 |
506 | | 539.1697 | You know, like [we-] | 539.9687 |
507 | LES_int_01 | 539.8241 | [Yeah.] | 540.3334 |
508 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 540.4384 | people know, like I can't put anything on anybody | 543.2880 |
510 | | 543.5032 | [In this] neighborhood. Cause everybody knows who I was when I was little? | 545.7978 |
511 | LES_int_01 | 543.5401 | [Yeah.] | 543.8870 |
512 | | 546.1709 | Now, like | 547.0095 |
514 | | 547.1588 | so those are the people that | 548.7612 |
516 | | 549.2134 | you grew up with that have lived here for a while. Like what about the new folks that are moving in? Are they | 554.1464 |
518 | | 554.2342 | do they become a part of the Lower East Side | 556.3855 |
520 | | 556.4777 | community? | 557.0264 |
521 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 558.7518 | Oh. | 558.9274 |
523 | | 559.2172 | When I was little, I used to hope for this. | 560.9612 |
525 | | 561.1851 | Right. | 561.4768 |
526 | LES_int_01 | 561.4768 | Yeah. | 561.9289 |
527 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 561.8612 | I wasn't- I used to work at Goldman Sachs. This big time | 564.2660 |
528 | | 564.7149 | uh- a trading company [on the Lower East Side.] | 566.9484 |
529 | LES_int_01 | 565.8344 | [Yeah. Yeah.] | 566.9045 |
530 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 567.2338 | And um. | 567.8616 |
532 | | 569.0470 | I used to g- I was wondering, like why | 570.9480 |
534 | | 571.2465 | well, people I worked with don't live over here. | 572.6148 |
536 | | 573.3523 | And I used to tell my co-workers. Cause I was young, I was a intern, and they put me on | 576.6011 |
538 | | 576.8163 | full time. | 577.3591 |
539 | LES_int_01 | 577.5038 | [Yeah.] | 577.9434 |
540 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 577.6313 | [Like,] so I'm just like, they just liked the way I w- you know, work, so I'm working in this corporates s- | 581.1523 |
541 | | 581.4158 | place | 581.7275 |
542 | LES_int_01 | 581.9065 | [Yeah.] | 582.3851 |
543 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 582.1172 | [full time.] And I used to say to my co-workers, like | 584.0572 |
544 | | 584.6630 | you co- you travel hours to get here. | 586.5201 |
545 | LES_int_01 | 586.8582 | [Right.] | 587.3060 |
546 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 587.1084 | [You know] I takes me thirty minutes. | 588.7767 |
547 | LES_int_01 | 588.9172 | Yeah. | 589.3743 |
548 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 589.3222 | I was like, I don't get why people don't live over here. It's not as bad as people think. | 592.8212 |
549 | | 592.9398 | I used to say that all the [time.] | 593.9759 |
550 | LES_int_01 | 593.8354 | [<laugh>] You're like it's [okay.] | 595.3998 |
551 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 595.2227 | [It's] not as bad as people think. | 596.4964 |
552 | LES_int_01 | 596.4745 | Yeah. | 596.8784 |
553 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 596.9311 | And then I saw, I remember this white couple coming in the neighborhood. | 599.4687 |
555 | | 599.7233 | Because you had | 600.4982 |
557 | | 600.8055 | white- when you saw white people in this neighborhood, | 602.6362 |
558 | LES_int_01 | 602.6362 | Yeah. | 603.0972 |
559 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 603.7294 | They were on drugs, | 604.8753 |
561 | | 605.5997 | they were a undercover cop, | 606.8070 |
562 | LES_int_01 | 606.8070 | <laugh> | 607.8299 |
563 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 607.8299 | or maybe some artist that did not give a fuck. [Like, they] was just like, fuck it, I'm a artist. | 611.9579 |
564 | LES_int_01 | 610.0305 | [Right.] | 610.3115 |
565 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 612.3618 | And, I'm not scared of none of y'all. | 613.7979 |
566 | LES_int_01 | 613.9335 | [<laugh>] | 614.9608 |
567 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 614.1135 | [That's- that's what you had.] Those are the three types of white people. [That's it.] | 617.3936 |
568 | LES_int_01 | 616.8221 | [Right.] | 617.1603 |
569 | | 617.7471 | Right. | 618.0632 |
570 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 618.3705 | And um. | 619.1300 |
572 | | 619.3978 | Just be honest, right? | 620.4515 |
573 | LES_int_01 | 620.4036 | [Yeah, yeah.] | 620.9463 |
574 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 620.7899 | [So,] I saw these two, I saw this white couple come, and I remem- I remember this day. And they said | 625.0474 |
575 | | 625.2054 | we're looking for housing. And I'm like | 626.5066 |
577 | | 626.5944 | I'm telling them to- li- they should go to my projects, and I'm like, you know what, | 629.5666 |
579 | | 630.3475 | my- | 630.6022 |
581 | | 630.9007 | where I live at, my building's [nice.] | 632.5838 |
582 | LES_int_01 | 632.3555 | [It's really nice.] | 633.2599 |
583 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 632.9482 | [It's nice.] It's beautiful. | 634.0678 |
584 | LES_int_01 | 634.1687 | [Yeah.] | 634.4541 |
585 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 634.3882 | [Y'all] should move in there. [And then what I was] thinking of, was like wow. | 636.9478 |
586 | LES_int_01 | 635.2399 | [It is. (laughing)] | 635.8414 |
587 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 637.2156 | My neighborhood would get more mixed. | 639.0815 |
588 | LES_int_01 | 639.3899 | [Right.] | 639.7543 |
589 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 639.5742 | [And] everybody would be mixed. Like, I always, [always] | 642.2315 |
590 | LES_int_01 | 641.7452 | [You like] that. You would- [yeah.] | 643.0257 |
591 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 642.8720 | [I've] always liked that. My [mothers] raised us like that. | 644.9618 |
592 | LES_int_01 | 643.8842 | [Yeah.] | 644.1037 |
593 | | 645.1330 | Mm-hm. | 645.3745 |
594 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 645.4096 | The first time I said something bad about a white person, | 647.5257 |
595 | LES_int_01 | 647.7540 | Mm-hm. | 648.0262 |
596 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 648.0262 | I didn't even know what that meant. | 649.4832 |
597 | | 649.7159 | [Because my] mother's- one of my mother's best friends are white. | 651.5994 |
598 | LES_int_01 | 649.8178 | [Mm-hm.] | 650.1295 |
599 | | 651.8847 | Mm-hm. | 652.3062 |
600 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 652.3062 | But I never | 652.8242 |
601 | | 652.9598 | looked- I never | 653.8719 |
603 | | 654.0036 | put that connection. I never thought of color or- I just really do- didn't. | 657.3934 |
605 | | 657.5163 | [Like I was] that's how innocent it is. | 659.0172 |
606 | LES_int_01 | 657.5163 | [Yeah.] | 658.0079 |
607 | | 659.1007 | Yeah. | 659.4958 |
608 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 659.5397 | And I'm just like | 660.2817 |
610 | | 660.4397 | and I forgot so- oh. Something happened with these- we got followed in the store | 662.7227 |
612 | | 662.8500 | by these white people. [And I remember] I came home /??/ | 664.7093 |
613 | LES_int_01 | 663.5703 | [Uh.] | 663.8733 |
614 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 665.0504 | These white people. They- I just came home crying about it and I was like | 667.3544 |
616 | | 667.6705 | white people, they- I'm'a fuck them up. They made me /this-/ You know, I was so [angry.] | 671.3188 |
617 | LES_int_01 | 670.8494 | [Uh-huh.] | 671.3188 |
618 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 671.6376 | And my mother said, oh. Oh. | 673.2533 |
620 | | 673.4420 | You got all that about white people? | 675.1191 |
622 | | 675.3255 | Oh. | 675.5713 |
624 | | 675.9050 | Really? | 676.2079 |
626 | | 676.4669 | I'm like yeah. Fuck that. | 677.5277 |
628 | | 677.9316 | I don't like them, /you know what they make me say/. | 679.4068 |
630 | | 679.6834 | She go, oh. Why don't you tell /RD-NAME-2/ all of that? | 681.3604 |
632 | | 681.6985 | I'm'a p- I'm'a call her right now. | 682.9335 |
634 | | 683.3975 | And I- I was like, tell /RD-NAME-2/? | 684.9786 |
636 | | 685.0795 | And then, it li- it slowly dawned on me. And I was like, no. I remember, begging my mother and crying, like please don't call [her.] | 692.1067 |
637 | LES_int_01 | 687.1763 | [Right.] | 687.5407 |
639 | | 691.8634 | [Don't call /RD-NAME-2/] | 693.3402 |
640 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 692.5414 | [Please don't tell] her I said that. | 694.5346 |
641 | | 694.6531 | Please. But she goes, no, but she is white. | 696.5277 |
643 | | 697.0425 | And you real right? Go tell everything you told me, tell her. | 700.2957 |
644 | LES_int_01 | 700.6030 | Yeah. | 700.8840 |
645 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 700.8840 | And that's when I had to literally put things in perspective. | 702.8736 |
646 | | 703.0440 | [I've always] wanted things mixed up. | 704.4363 |
647 | LES_int_01 | 703.0883 | [Yeah.] | 703.4438 |
648 | | 704.4363 | Yeah. | 704.8194 |
649 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 704.7699 | Cause then I was like, wow. You know what? Then | 706.1397 |
650 | | 706.4470 | what it is, is what things that- like what society's teaching me | 709.1838 |
652 | | 709.5614 | to make- you know, make these- | 710.4965 |
654 | | 710.6019 | these differences. It's not like | 712.0786 |
655 | LES_int_01 | 712.2147 | [Yeah.] | 712.7152 |
656 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 712.6099 | [I-] I- I really should just take people for who they are. I've always like mixing and whatever. | 716.1775 |
657 | LES_int_01 | 716.4760 | Yeah. | 716.8080 |
658 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 716.8080 | And | 717.2207 |
659 | LES_int_01 | 717.5500 | But- but maybe there's not mixing. | 719.3895 |
660 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 719.8900 | But. [This is the thing.] | 720.7853 |
661 | LES_int_01 | 720.2497 | [That's the- yeah.] So, the mixing's not actually [happening?] | 722.5634 |
662 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 722.3087 | [No.] The mix- [the mixing's not happening this time.] | 724.1351 |
663 | LES_int_01 | 722.8498 | [Yeah.] | 723.1528 |
665 | | 723.5391 | [So, what's- I mean- yeah.] | 724.7223 |
666 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 724.3546 | [Because what I] feel like, if you aks me, it's like a distain type of | 727.8054 |
667 | | 728.5912 | disposition I feel | 729.7832 |
668 | LES_int_01 | 729.7832 | [Yeah.] | 730.1256 |
669 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 729.9763 | [with n-] the new folk | 731.2759 |
670 | LES_int_01 | 731.2759 | [Yeah.] | 731.7112 |
671 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 731.4954 | [coming] in the hood. | 732.2373 |
672 | LES_int_01 | 732.2373 | Yeah. | 732.5783 |
673 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 732.8739 | Um. | 733.2910 |
675 | | 733.4139 | Yeah. You could just stand in the middle of the sidewalk. Nobody fucking lives here. Nobody gotta walk through. | 737.7549 |
676 | LES_int_01 | 737.9789 | Yeah. | 738.2203 |
677 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 738.2203 | And then | 738.7208 |
678 | | 739.2564 | um, it's- | 740.0950 |
680 | | 740.2136 | it's more like um, | 741.1349 |
682 | | 741.2227 | the people look- uh, loo- ask me for directions and don't look at me in my eye. | 744.2696 |
683 | LES_int_01 | 745.0554 | Mm-hm. | 745.2969 |
685 | | 745.8237 | [Mm-hm.] | 746.3418 |
686 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 746.0129 | [Mm.] Don't fucking ask me shit if you scared. | 748.0851 |
687 | | 748.5461 | You know. | 748.9500 |
689 | | 749.0233 | [Don't do] it. | 749.5866 |
690 | LES_int_01 | 749.0641 | [Yeah.] | 749.3558 |
691 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 749.9070 | [The other] day I was um | 751.2982 |
692 | LES_int_01 | 749.9070 | [Yeah.] | 750.2147 |
693 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 752.2202 | <ts> | 752.3387 |
695 | | 752.7777 | this lady, you could tell, she's illegally- | 754.3901 |
697 | | 754.8949 | she's illegally uh | 756.0496 |
699 | | 756.1418 | I don't know what she was doing over here, whatever, in m- in the projects over there. But [she was over] there. | 759.7407 |
700 | LES_int_01 | 759.0655 | [Yeah.] | 759.4914 |
701 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 760.0524 | And you know, | 761.0666 |
703 | | 763.5685 | I- cause I've seen her a couple of times. I think she just knows somebody over here. [Or she's] | 766.7778 |
704 | LES_int_01 | 766.1719 | [Yeah.] | 766.6724 |
705 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 767.1553 | but the whole thing was, like she got a little nervous when we was walking out. Like, I feel like she got a little nervous cause she looked and then | 772.0406 |
707 | | 772.4050 | she started speeding up a little bit. | 773.8055 |
709 | | 774.2709 | And that happens to me a lot. | 775.1988 |
711 | | 775.2910 | So, it's like almost where I know, it's like, ah man. | 777.4467 |
713 | | 777.5740 | Fuck that bitch. | 778.4037 |
714 | LES_int_01 | 778.4037 | [Yeah.] | 779.2141 |
715 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 778.9262 | [And then] um. | 779.7999 |
716 | | 780.2110 | The other day, | 781.1110 |
718 | | 781.2164 | uh. | 781.6993 |
720 | | 783.5828 | I forgot somebody- I was loo- | 784.8603 |
721 | LES_int_01 | 784.9902 | Sorry. | 785.3897 |
722 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 785.4969 | uh. I was look- oh. I'm sorry. | 786.7289 |
723 | LES_int_01 | 786.6836 | /Sorry ?/. | 787.1502 |
724 | | 787.3522 | [Touch.] | 787.5673 |
725 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 787.4224 | [I w-] | 787.5673 |
726 | | 787.8265 | I was looking for something | 789.0031 |
728 | | 789.0821 | and um | 789.7538 |
730 | | 791.4413 | now, I forgot what happened. I just bumped in- | 793.1184 |
732 | | 793.5092 | I bumped into this guy. | 794.5145 |
734 | | 794.7648 | [By accident] I wasn't looking. | 795.8958 |
735 | LES_int_01 | 794.7648 | [Yeah.] | 795.0615 |
736 | | 796.0054 | Yeah. | 796.3083 |
737 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 796.6861 | And this guy's like | 797.4807 |
739 | | 798.4773 | He's like um, | 799.2571 |
741 | | 801.3249 | Yo. | 801.7332 |
743 | | 802.1108 | Fucking watch where you going. | 803.7352 |
745 | | 804.0864 | And I'm looking at this white mother fucker | 805.6894 |
747 | | 805.7728 | your ass is ballsy. | 807.2002 |
748 | LES_int_01 | 807.3381 | [<laugh>] | 809.6166 |
749 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 807.4505 | [Cause] | 807.7095 |
751 | | 808.1793 | [ten years ago,] | 809.1715 |
752 | | 809.9266 | you wouldn't have even p- | 811.0988 |
754 | | 811.2349 | curled your lip up, talk to me that way. | 812.7658 |
755 | LES_int_01 | 812.6517 | [Yeah.] | 813.3585 |
756 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 812.9634 | [I know you] wouldn't have. | 814.1143 |
757 | LES_int_01 | 814.2190 | Yeah. | 814.6099 |
758 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 814.6099 | And so just getting this. | 815.7645 |
759 | | 816.0236 | Even when I go to bars, it's like | 817.5294 |
761 | | 817.6655 | everybody don't get carded. Then I come in, and I get carded, and it's [like] | 820.6498 |
762 | LES_int_01 | 820.3573 | Yeah.] | 820.6690 |
763 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 820.9220 | I- I o- I mean, I know I look young, but it's just like | 823.1369 |
765 | | 823.2247 | all these little different things that | 824.5111 |
767 | | 824.9764 | I noticed | 825.8501 |
769 | | 826.5043 | that um. | 827.5448 |
771 | | 828.3087 | I mean, one day, this lady. <laugh> | 829.6592 |
773 | | 830.3221 | We'd just- we was- | 831.0202 |
775 | | 831.1387 | we was celebrating | 831.9817 |
777 | | 832.3856 | um, winning a victory for affordable housing. | 834.7432 |
779 | | 835.0170 | [Just a-] | 835.4297 |
780 | LES_int_01 | 835.0170 | [Yeah.] | 835.4297 |
781 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 835.7589 | And this white woman. She comes, she sits there, and she's like um. | 838.7756 |
783 | | 840.0444 | She comes in and she's like um. | 841.2034 |
785 | | 842.4766 | Oh, can I sit with y'all? Cause it's so noisy in there. | 844.6816 |
787 | | 845.3314 | So, I was like, ah. I'm thinking she's a old school white person they're like | 848.1647 |
788 | LES_int_01 | 848.1647 | Yeah. | 848.5467 |
789 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 848.5467 | the- the white people that's been here for years. One of the white people that's been here [for years.] And they don't | 851.8745 |
790 | LES_int_01 | 851.1436 | [Yeah.] | 851.4933 |
791 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 852.0106 | They tired of the bar too, | 853.2819 |
792 | LES_int_01 | 853.3588 | [Yeah.] | 853.6969 |
793 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 853.4550 | [so I] thought she was one of us. I was like, | 855.1980 |
794 | | 855.4833 | hell yeah. Come and sit down man. Yeah. We talking, we drinking. | 858.9813 |
795 | LES_int_01 | 859.1205 | Yeah. | 859.4774 |
796 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 859.4774 | And then she | 860.4564 |
797 | | 860.7198 | had a whole different idea of her existence in our community. | 863.6525 |
799 | | 864.2189 | She was- when I told her about the- the af- affordable housing opportunities, she- she was like completely against that. She was like | 869.8313 |
801 | | 870.1606 | h- oh, I don't get it. I mean. | 871.2230 |
803 | | 871.5435 | You just should work | 872.3074 |
805 | | 872.5796 | for what you get. Like I worked | 874.5377 |
807 | | 874.9679 | s- see where I am today? | 876.2104 |
809 | | 876.4035 | I worked for that. | 877.3205 |
810 | LES_int_01 | 877.4566 | [Oh /?/.] | 877.9981 |
811 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 877.6805 | [I earned] this. | 878.7210 |
812 | | 879.3620 | And this- if you ask me, we're making the neighborhood better. | 882.1751 |
814 | | 882.4166 | This what she's telling me. | 883.3034 |
816 | | 883.5361 | The neighborhood was shit | 884.5886 |
818 | | 884.9223 | when people lived here before and als- and all this other stuff and | 887.0472 |
820 | | 887.5784 | this lady's like going on about how my nei- Like how she's this benefit to my neighborhood. | 891.7135 |
822 | | 892.6398 | And I couldn't believe it. | 893.5882 |
823 | LES_int_01 | 893.6408 | Oh, you're like. (laughing) | 894.4662 |
825 | | 894.5847 | [Like, I mean, I don't] disagree [with you or uh.] | 896.7799 |
826 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 894.6550 | [And I was like] | 895.4013 |
828 | | 896.0555 | [I said miss,] you looking at what we do. We moving from | 898.5711 |
829 | | 898.9135 | things that are public | 899.8575 |
831 | | 899.9628 | to now private. | 900.6784 |
833 | | 901.2097 | You're looking at a town where nobody had control over | 903.4761 |
835 | | 903.9854 | what repairs happened in their building. Let alone in their apartments. | 906.5010 |
837 | | 906.6020 | You have slum landlords who care less about the residents. | 909.7795 |
838 | LES_int_01 | 909.7795 | Yeah. | 910.2668 |
839 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 911.3512 | Then, | 911.8648 |
841 | | 912.1286 | you- you- now we're moving to a more private | 914.4730 |
843 | | 914.8462 | uh, sector, with everything | 916.4032 |
845 | | 916.7369 | and now people wanna give a fuck about shit. | 918.3218 |
847 | | 918.7213 | And now, landlords, wanna make sure things are correct | 920.4950 |
849 | | 920.6179 | cause they gonna make more money off of that. | 922.0652 |
850 | LES_int_01 | 922.0652 | Yeah. | 922.5437 |
851 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 923.0706 | And I said, but | 923.8125 |
853 | | 924.4052 | uh. My mother fought for the change. | 926.6223 |
855 | | 926.9384 | [And the] reason why we lived here, was not because of choice. We was forced to. There was no where else to live. | 931.4062 |
856 | LES_int_01 | 926.9384 | [Yeah.] | 927.2047 |
857 | | 931.4062 | Yeah. | 931.8189 |
858 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 931.8584 | In this- in but this piece of shit hole. | 933.7594 |
860 | | 933.8735 | And when we make the change, we should enjoy it. | 935.5726 |
862 | | 935.8740 | [You came] here | 936.8311 |
863 | LES_int_01 | 935.8740 | [Yeah.] | 936.2049 |
864 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 937.0681 | not | 937.5335 |
866 | | 938.3369 | cause you didn't have a choice. Because you wanted to. | 940.8526 |
867 | LES_int_01 | 941.0677 | Yeah. | 941.5067 |
868 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 942.0013 | Know what I'm saying? [It wasn't for] | 943.0593 |
869 | LES_int_01 | 942.4949 | [You want to] appreciate [what you] fought for [right? Yeah.] | 945.7360 |
870 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 943.5994 | [Yeah.] | 944.0677 |
872 | | 944.6881 | [Yeah.] | 945.1960 |
874 | | 945.5047 | [It wasn-] y- and she was just like | 947.2916 |
875 | | 947.3750 | I find myself like | 948.5457 |
877 | | 950.8638 | she's just- she's just like, no. I'm no. I'm | 952.9096 |
879 | | 953.1028 | we make the neighborhood better. The people didn't appreciate it. | 955.1208 |
881 | | 955.5511 | I'm like, well, you wasn't there when somebody called five or six times for their landlord to fix their house. | 959.1862 |
883 | | 959.4452 | That's why these buil- that's how these buildings got decrepit | 961.5159 |
885 | | 961.6784 | over a period of time. | 962.9472 |
886 | LES_int_01 | 963.0309 | Yeah. | 963.3730 |
887 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 963.3730 | You know. | 963.8604 |
888 | LES_int_01 | 964.0495 | [Yeah.] | 964.4402 |
889 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 964.1062 | [You weren't] here when the sanitation wasn't picking things up regularly. This is the whole city. | 967.4589 |
890 | | 967.7091 | Why didn't they pick up garbage as regularly as they did | 969.9921 |
892 | | 970.2247 | in other parts of th- of the city? | 971.7043 |
893 | LES_int_01 | 971.7529 | Yeah.] | 972.1700 |
894 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 972.3681 | You wasn't here when- for that. | 973.5642 |
895 | LES_int_01 | 973.6941 | [Yeah.] | 974.1112 |
896 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 974.0208 | [So,] you can't sit here and say that people didn't care about where they lived at, cause my mother did. | 977.4409 |
897 | | 977.6516 | My mother cared about where we lived at. | 979.0813 |
898 | LES_int_01 | 979.3976 | [Yeah.] | 979.7437 |
899 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 979.5511 | [And I'm] happy and I'm fine. | 980.8242 |
900 | | 981.3467 | And then, even the bars. The new bar owners they have the same /iadea/. | 984.3701 |
902 | | 984.6730 | Well, | 985.0637 |
904 | | 985.3535 | nobody wanted to be here, and now we have these businesses | 987.5662 |
906 | | 987.8560 | and I'm like man. | 988.5189 |
908 | | 988.6726 | Y'all still disruptive, y'all still don't give back to the community. | 991.6289 |
909 | LES_int_01 | 991.6289 | Yeah. | 992.1776 |
910 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 992.2830 | <ts> And you still have people that- | 993.4493 |
912 | | 993.7391 | that um | 994.4942 |
914 | | 994.8498 | they're like yeah, lining up and- and causing ruckus in our- in our [neighborhood. Please.] | 998.4919 |
915 | LES_int_01 | 997.8581 | [Yeah. And] not serving [the community. /inaudible/.] | 1000.7672 |
916 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 999.4797 | [Not serve the neighborhood. You ask] even anybody else too, | 1002.1095 |
917 | | 1002.4739 | like the long standing white people that lived in the [neighborhood,] | 1004.9582 |
918 | LES_int_01 | 1004.8441 | [Yeah.] | 1005.2480 |
919 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1005.5158 | those, they will fucking tell | 1007.3312 |
921 | | 1007.4102 | they will say the drug dealers saved them. | 1008.8535 |
923 | | 1009.9291 | I've s- I swear to [God, they will say] the drug dealers protected them | 1012.6555 |
924 | LES_int_01 | 1010.7501 | [Yeah.] | 1011.3691 |
925 | | 1012.6730 | [Okay.] | 1013.2680 |
926 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1013.0023 | [from] other drug dealers. | 1014.3809 |
927 | LES_int_01 | 1014.3809 | Yeah. | 1014.7189 |
928 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1014.7496 | Like, that's what- | 1015.7620 |
930 | | 1016.1747 | that's what it was. I even [heard this one] time I was getting my taxes done and this guy, | 1019.1540 |
931 | LES_int_01 | 1017.1686 | [Yeah.] | 1017.5807 |
932 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1019.4920 | he was t- he was an old police officer in the area. | 1021.5247 |
934 | | 1022.2843 | And he was like | 1022.8857 |
936 | | 1023.3731 | yeah, this neighborhood was bad. That's why I do this now. | 1025.5259 |
938 | | 1025.8771 | And he was bragging about how | 1027.3084 |
940 | | 1027.7167 | the- the cops would get called and they would wait for three | 1030.2220 |
942 | | 1031.2757 | cop cars | 1032.0308 |
944 | | 1032.1230 | to come to respond before they would get out the car do anything. | 1035.1069 |
946 | | 1035.3000 | There had to be three on site. | 1036.5776 |
948 | | 1037.9123 | And how none of them ever wanted to get there. Of course. | 1040.2903 |
950 | | 1040.5537 | Now, I've watched people die, | 1042.0420 |
952 | | 1042.3537 | I've watched people die | 1043.5435 |
954 | | 1043.8771 | in the street | 1044.4698 |
956 | | 1045.4884 | cause no cops came. | 1046.4703 |
958 | | 1047.0498 | I've watched that s- | 1047.8451 |
960 | | 1048.3186 | that's my reality. | 1049.2493 |
962 | | 1049.8025 | It's happened twice in my life. [Twice too many.] | 1051.9977 |
963 | LES_int_01 | 1051.2252 | [Yeah.] | 1051.7409 |
964 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1052.7030 | And I remember one time on Grand Street, | 1054.2571 |
966 | | 1054.6127 | I'm looking outside and everybody's w- | 1056.9264 |
968 | | 1057.4181 | out | 1057.7606 |
970 | | 1058.2944 | o- there's no cell phones at the time. | 1059.6789 |
971 | LES_int_01 | 1059.7404 | [Yeah.] | 1060.1882 |
972 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1060.0828 | [People] were out their windows | 1061.5316 |
973 | | 1062.0394 | like I saw every window with a phone. | 1063.8965 |
974 | LES_int_01 | 1064.1423 | [Yeah.] | 1064.4145 |
975 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1064.3048 | [And] the ambulance took | 1065.3804 |
976 | | 1065.9248 | forty-five minutes to get there. | 1067.4438 |
978 | | 1068.2896 | Those are the longest forty-five minutes I've ever seen. | 1070.3575 |
980 | | 1070.8053 | And this kid died. | 1071.7887 |
981 | LES_int_01 | 1072.4824 | Was it a shooting? | 1073.3736 |
982 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1073.3736 | Uh-huh. Yeah. It was a shooting. | 1074.3116 |
983 | | 1074.9262 | And | 1075.5189 |
985 | | 1075.7121 | cops used to shoot kids. Cops used to beat up | 1078.0960 |
987 | | 1078.2453 | kids in my neighborhood. | 1079.1629 |
989 | | 1079.4219 | Y- people used to come back fucked up from cops. | 1081.7955 |
991 | | 1083.5867 | This was it. | 1084.1481 |
993 | | 1084.2447 | This was us. [This was it.] | 1085.4768 |
994 | LES_int_01 | 1085.1184 | [Yeah.] | 1085.5882 |
995 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1085.9422 | And. | 1086.4998 |
997 | | 1086.6886 | So, yeah. We deserve it and | 1088.4140 |
999 | | 1088.6774 | you know w- why can't we- | 1089.7530 |
1001 | | 1089.9023 | we live with each other collectively? | 1091.3523 |
1003 | | 1091.6716 | I- I mean, why can't we | 1092.6623 |
1005 | | 1092.9871 | why can't there be an /inclusin/ | 1094.5501 |
1007 | | 1094.8179 | uh- uh- a c- an um. | 1095.7179 |
1009 | | 1096.4028 | <ts> An inc- like an all inclusive community? | 1098.5086 |
1010 | LES_int_01 | 1098.5788 | [Yeah.] | 1098.9915 |
1011 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1098.7984 | [I'm] down for that. | 1099.6237 |
1012 | LES_int_01 | 1099.6589 | Yeah. | 1100.0540 |
1013 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1100.2559 | But, | 1100.7169 |
1015 | | 1101.2130 | you know, when they start | 1102.2096 |
1017 | | 1102.5301 | chartering all the schools up, | 1103.9466 |
1019 | | 1104.1135 | chopping them up, | 1105.1452 |
1020 | LES_int_01 | 1105.7818 | [Mm-hm.] | 1106.2384 |
1021 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1105.9223 | [And you have] PTAs that can actually | 1108.1833 |
1022 | | 1108.4774 | support a commu- a computer lab, and do all this other stuff, and but they want it on their e- | 1112.4930 |
1024 | | 1112.9233 | they want it on their terms, and kids gotta take specialized tests in these public schools. | 1116.8071 |
1025 | LES_int_01 | 1117.1452 | Yeah. | 1117.5008 |
1026 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1117.5008 | Man. | 1117.9618 |
1027 | | 1118.5764 | There's something wrong with that. | 1119.5555 |
1028 | LES_int_01 | 1119.8408 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 1121.0262 |
1029 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1121.4740 | You know, so. | 1122.3448 |
1031 | | 1123.5403 | I remember wanting to g- I went, when after that lady, after I saw that lady, man. | 1126.2316 |
1033 | | 1126.6442 | I went home and cried. | 1127.7462 |
1035 | | 1128.3725 | I went home and cried. | 1129.1540 |
1037 | | 1129.8169 | And I wanted to like | 1131.1911 |
1039 | | 1132.1789 | Yeah. I felt [helpless.] | 1133.3423 |
1040 | LES_int_01 | 1133.2501 | [Yeah.] | 1133.7418 |
1041 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1133.9771 | And I was like, you know what miss, | 1134.9210 |
1043 | | 1136.0537 | I remember me telling her, like tryna hold back my tears, cause I'm very sensitive. | 1138.8256 |
1044 | LES_int_01 | 1138.9502 | [Yeah.] | 1139.4595 |
1045 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1139.2571 | [You know] miss, | 1139.9463 |
1046 | | 1140.2975 | you enjoy your food, and you have a nice | 1142.6288 |
1048 | | 1143.0239 | beautiful | 1143.6678 |
1050 | | 1143.9356 | night. | 1144.1595 |
1052 | | 1144.9102 | And I got [up] | 1145.5822 |
1053 | LES_int_01 | 1145.3825 | [Get] out of there. | 1146.1552 |
1054 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1146.4029 | And I fucking | 1147.2283 |
1056 | | 1147.6102 | m- | 1147.7946 |
1058 | | 1148.0493 | literally was crying. Somebody- | 1149.5712 |
1060 | | 1150.1814 | It was so funny too. People have seen me cry in the street | 1152.5731 |
1062 | | 1152.6493 | about- and it's always about my neighborhood. [And they] think it's about a guy, they be like | 1155.9405 |
1063 | LES_int_01 | 1154.3225 | [<laugh>] | 1154.6345 |
1064 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1156.3005 | wait, stop. | 1157.0900 |
1066 | | 1157.6352 | What's [wrong?] | 1158.3903 |
1067 | LES_int_01 | 1158.0938 | [What did they do to you? <laugh>] | 1160.2829 |
1068 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1158.5440 | [What did he do to you?] | 1159.7074 |
1070 | | 1160.0235 | [And I'm like] | 1160.5240 |
1071 | | 1160.6337 | man, | 1161.0186 |
1073 | | 1162.2303 | look at that building! | 1163.2488 |
1074 | LES_int_01 | 1163.2488 | <laugh> | 1164.4258 |
1075 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1164.5132 | Man, we getting displaced! | 1165.9050 |
1077 | | 1166.1157 | And I'm really, I'm joking, but | 1167.5278 |
1079 | | 1167.8922 | [literally, just the other] day I was crying on the corner. | 1170.2103 |
1080 | LES_int_01 | 1167.8922 | [<laugh>] | 1168.9676 |
1082 | | 1170.1721 | Yeah. | 1170.5538 |
1083 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1170.5220 | Because I saw, like on Avenue D, | 1172.5635 |
1084 | | 1173.3303 | it's all torn dow- Avenue D | 1175.4815 |
1086 | | 1175.7669 | is like the p- the- the- was the base- like it was like the- the Mecca of violence for the Lower East Side. Okay? | 1181.1917 |
1087 | LES_int_01 | 1180.4333 | [Yeah. Yeah.] | 1181.4036 |
1088 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1181.5386 | It's the last avenue | 1183.0752 |
1090 | | 1183.6942 | in Manhattan, | 1184.5811 |
1091 | LES_int_01 | 1184.6106 | Yeah. | 1185.1155 |
1092 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1185.5281 | Kay. | 1185.9101 |
1094 | | 1186.4106 | And this is fucking a- it's not Avenue D, it's D Ave. | 1189.9372 |
1095 | LES_int_01 | 1190.0382 | <laugh> | 1190.9338 |
1096 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1190.9338 | You know? | 1191.5792 |
1097 | | 1191.7153 | That's what it is. Like | 1192.7953 |
1099 | | 1193.0440 | you a /??/? I'm on the Ave. | 1194.4884 |
1101 | | 1194.6070 | [There's thousands] of Ave's in city | 1196.1163 |
1102 | LES_int_01 | 1194.6070 | [Yeah.] | 1195.0583 |
1103 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1196.3762 | but you on The [Ave.] | 1197.8294 |
1104 | LES_int_01 | 1197.6275 | [Yeah.] Yeah. | 1198.5231 |
1105 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1198.8852 | And that- that place was violent and now when you [see] | 1201.7286 |
1106 | LES_int_01 | 1201.3952 | [Right.] | 1201.7286 |
1107 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1201.9832 | development like a cuchifrito place that | 1203.9720 |
1109 | | 1204.2442 | I used to go to. I rem- I have memories of going to the cuchifrito place | 1207.4185 |
1111 | | 1207.7258 | after h- after the hospital | 1208.9770 |
1113 | | 1209.3864 | for soup. They had nice little chicken soup. [And I] could go to the cuchifrito place and get that soup. | 1213.6922 |
1114 | LES_int_01 | 1211.2875 | [Yeah.] | 1211.5733 |
1115 | | 1213.7062 | Yeah. | 1213.9580 |
1116 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1214.0594 | It was minority only. Been there forever. | 1215.9714 |
1117 | LES_int_01 | 1216.0600 | [Yeah.] | 1216.4301 |
1118 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1216.1533 | [These are the] businesses that were serving us when nobody wanted to, [right.] | 1218.7630 |
1119 | LES_int_01 | 1218.4925 | [Right.] | 1219.0754 |
1120 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1219.3132 | Now, they're gone. | 1220.0686 |
1122 | | 1220.2085 | On the corner, gone. | 1221.1737 |
1124 | | 1221.7927 | We don't know what's gonna come of that. | 1223.0843 |
1126 | | 1223.7138 | I don't know what's gonna be built there. | 1225.0428 |
1128 | | 1225.2013 | [But,] I'll tell you this much. | 1226.3624 |
1129 | LES_int_01 | 1225.2013 | [Yeah.] | 1225.3598 |
1130 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1226.9545 | I know it's not gonna be for me. | 1228.3942 |
1131 | LES_int_01 | 1228.6927 | Yeah. | 1229.2149 |
1132 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1229.7232 | And that's why I got involved with | 1231.0451 |
1134 | | 1231.1430 | the organization. | 1231.9934 |
1135 | LES_int_01 | 1232.0476 | Right. | 1232.4672 |
1136 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1233.9023 | Um. Because, I wanted to be a more a part of the- | 1236.2710 |
1138 | | 1237.2083 | the solution, than a part of a problem. | 1239.0594 |
1139 | LES_int_01 | 1239.2040 | Yeah. | 1239.5339 |
1140 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1239.6738 | And I felt like I was alone. | 1241.1612 |
1142 | | 1242.1031 | And when I came back from college, | 1243.8657 |
1144 | | 1244.4346 | uh, | 1244.8309 |
1146 | | 1245.0081 | one of the things that | 1245.7904 |
1148 | | 1245.8743 | in p- I lived in p- I was raised in public housing. | 1247.8187 |
1150 | | 1248.1544 | One of the things is if you are under-employed, or unemployed, | 1250.4299 |
1151 | LES_int_01 | 1250.5745 | Yeah. | 1250.9848 |
1152 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1251.0734 | you have to do community service. | 1252.5084 |
1154 | | 1253.8700 | Mandatory community service. [If you do] not do it, the consequence is eviction. | 1257.2804 |
1155 | LES_int_01 | 1255.1709 | [Huh.] | 1255.4134 |
1156 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1257.8679 | This is a federal law. | 1259.0697 |
1157 | LES_int_01 | 1259.2981 | Huh. | 1259.5499 |
1158 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1259.5499 | That's only applicable, arbitrarily | 1261.4664 |
1159 | | 1261.8021 | to residents that live in public housing across the country. | 1264.1522 |
1160 | LES_int_01 | 1264.5241 | Huh. | 1264.7573 |
1161 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1264.9251 | But, where does that come from? Stigmatizations, right? | 1267.2146 |
1162 | LES_int_01 | 1267.4757 | [Yeah.] | 1267.7648 |
1163 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1267.6902 | [Stigmatizations] of | 1268.8699 |
1164 | | 1269.1497 | people that live in public housing. They ain't shit. Even subsidies, right? You have [those] stigmatizations for that. | 1273.4824 |
1165 | LES_int_01 | 1272.2966 | [Yeah.] | 1272.5624 |
1166 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1273.8694 | Subsidies. Oh. People are lazy. They're bums. And there's violence, and there's drugs and they living off the government. They taking my tax dollars, and all of these [things.] | 1280.4929 |
1167 | LES_int_01 | 1280.3949 | [Yeah.] | 1280.7213 |
1168 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1281.2622 | And | 1281.6819 |
1170 | | 1282.2341 | <ts> I really think that that's- those negative things are spill- they've- they spill into our everyday lives. | 1287.6151 |
1172 | | 1287.7969 | The way services are allocated and- | 1289.3615 |
1174 | | 1289.7065 | and in the way even | 1290.8738 |
1176 | | 1291.0603 | money's appropriated to them on our government levels. | 1293.4803 |
1178 | | 1293.7275 | The way police come into our community, the way policies are written, | 1296.5267 |
1180 | | 1296.7226 | these things spill, | 1297.8510 |
1182 | | 1298.0235 | these things stigmatizations spill into our realities. | 1300.2212 |
1184 | | 1300.6222 | And make it harder for us to live. | 1301.9605 |
1185 | LES_int_01 | 1302.2216 | Yeah. | 1302.6273 |
1186 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1302.7205 | And so, here we got a federal lawyer, says, oh. | 1304.7995 |
1188 | | 1305.1819 | You have to do mandatory community service. | 1306.9491 |
1190 | | 1307.4061 | And I just came out of college. | 1309.0148 |
1192 | | 1309.8401 | And I got six months to find a job. | 1311.6467 |
1193 | LES_int_01 | 1311.9674 | [Yeah.] | 1312.2332 |
1194 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1312.0933 | [And] that six months passed, and I didn't have a job. | 1314.2382 |
1195 | LES_int_01 | 1314.4014 | Yeah. | 1314.9097 |
1196 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1314.9097 | Okay, I didn't. | 1315.6884 |
1197 | LES_int_01 | 1315.8469 | You sh- sounds like you sure tried [though. <laugh>] | 1318.5409 |
1198 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1317.3519 | [Yeah.] | 1317.9347 |
1200 | | 1318.2052 | [And I was even] waitr- that- that was before in the middle | 1320.4154 |
1201 | | 1320.4993 | [forget about that.] When it was towards my career, | 1322.5838 |
1202 | LES_int_01 | 1320.4993 | [Yeah.] | 1321.0356 |
1203 | | 1322.7470 | [Yeah. Okay, okay.] | 1324.3977 |
1204 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1322.8496 | [I was looking for other stuff, like teaching] and stuff like [that.] | 1325.3135 |
1205 | LES_int_01 | 1325.1690 | [Yeah.] | 1325.6539 |
1206 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1325.7099 | And | 1326.1669 |
1208 | | 1326.2694 | come on. I couldn't. I couldn't find a job. | 1328.1042 |
1209 | LES_int_01 | 1328.1648 | Yeah. | 1328.5332 |
1210 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1328.7477 | And | 1329.1767 |
1212 | | 1329.4378 | so, that- that effected me. | 1330.5755 |
1213 | LES_int_01 | 1330.7061 | [Yeah.] | 1331.0838 |
1214 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1330.9439 | [You know.] And. | 1331.8438 |
1215 | | 1332.5153 | Um. | 1332.9723 |
1217 | | 1334.1601 | Then I see a fly- I was like totally against the community service requirement. I'm like so, I gotta do ninety-six hours cause I can't find a job yet? That's fucked up. | 1340.5934 |
1218 | LES_int_01 | 1340.7799 | [Yeah.] | 1341.0970 |
1219 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1340.8638 | [Or, my] mother and all of us get evicted? | 1342.7174 |
1220 | | 1343.9425 | See, a flyer in my building and this- | 1345.3134 |
1222 | | 1345.5186 | this flyer telling people to do the community service. | 1347.9946 |
1224 | | 1348.1951 | I'm like who the fuck | 1349.3690 |
1226 | | 1349.9052 | is telling people to do this [shit?] | 1351.2948 |
1227 | LES_int_01 | 1351.1316 | [Yeah.] | 1351.7657 |
1228 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1352.3066 | It was GOLES. | 1352.9688 |
1229 | LES_int_01 | 1354.2462 | <laugh> | 1355.3280 |
1231 | | 1355.4912 | It was? | 1356.0198 |
1232 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1356.0018 | It was GOLES. And there was a meeting, I said, oh. | 1358.3828 |
1233 | | 1358.5816 | Word. They're telling people to do this slave shit? | 1360.4279 |
1235 | | 1360.6565 | I'm coming. I'm on my way. | 1361.8998 |
1237 | | 1362.0673 | What date? Boom. | 1363.0499 |
1239 | | 1363.1865 | I brought six homegirls. My homegirls that I grew up. | 1365.5199 |
1241 | | 1365.6742 | I ain't seen them in years. | 1366.8514 |
1243 | | 1367.1687 | I just- I got, said, listen, yo. Y'all heard about this community service shit? | 1369.8238 |
1245 | | 1370.0045 | Damn. We need to go to [this meeting.] | 1371.2515 |
1246 | LES_int_01 | 1370.6875 | [<laugh>] | 1372.2218 |
1247 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1371.6842 | [Right, so,] we came in there hooded. | 1373.1075 |
1248 | | 1373.9095 | Who's presenting? | 1374.6998 |
1250 | | 1374.8673 | Damaris Reyes. | 1375.9072 |
1252 | | 1376.7488 | and another member that we have, Amanda Morales. | 1379.4148 |
1254 | | 1379.8598 | And I'm like, yeah. Let me sign y'all little sign in sheet. Let me hear what y'all gotta say about this bullshit | 1384.7337 |
1256 | | 1385.3382 | community service. | 1386.2416 |
1258 | | 1386.5324 | Damaris was educating people. | 1387.8588 |
1260 | | 1388.2201 | And telling them, listen. | 1389.0265 |
1262 | | 1389.1937 | You have to do this community service, | 1390.5994 |
1264 | | 1390.7624 | cause it's a federal law and you can get evicted. | 1392.6572 |
1266 | | 1392.8819 | But, you know what? | 1393.5764 |
1268 | | 1393.6557 | the same way it's a federal law, | 1394.9071 |
1270 | | 1395.0834 | you can fight it on a federal level. | 1396.4098 |
1272 | | 1396.6169 | And here's the ways that you can do it. | 1397.8727 |
1273 | LES_int_01 | 1398.1371 | [Mm-hm.] | 1398.5337 |
1274 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1398.3090 | [And that's] how I got involved with goo- Good Old Lower East Side. | 1400.4405 |
1275 | | 1400.9428 | It found me the work. | 1402.0841 |
1277 | | 1402.4719 | But, | 1402.9037 |
1279 | | 1403.7409 | that community service requirement shit was fucked up. | 1406.2245 |
1281 | | 1406.6388 | And I'm like damn. I just came out of school. | 1408.7627 |
1282 | LES_int_01 | 1408.8200 | Yeah. | 1409.2122 |
1283 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1409.2122 | Why is this only happening to me? | 1411.1642 |
1284 | | 1411.4154 | So, I'm seeing just a lot of | 1412.7267 |
1286 | | 1413.6521 | how- how my community's being singled out. | 1416.0272 |
1287 | LES_int_01 | 1416.2695 | Yeah. | 1416.6009 |
1288 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1416.6009 | You know, and [people] t- | 1417.5774 |
1289 | LES_int_01 | 1417.1279 | [Yeah.] | 1417.4690 |
1290 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1417.6629 | People have these warped perceptions of like | 1419.4078 |
1292 | | 1420.0870 | tax dollars. Like, the average- aver- the average ed- he average person like | 1423.3576 |
1294 | | 1423.7365 | my brothers, like | 1424.5385 |
1296 | | 1424.7809 | my brothers are even like | 1425.7328 |
1298 | | 1425.8121 | to- they're like some cons- they have these conservative views. I'm like you | 1428.4915 |
1300 | | 1428.5576 | you a black man. What are you fucking [f-] | 1430.8355 |
1301 | LES_int_01 | 1430.3992 | [Yeah.] | 1430.8355 |
1302 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1431.0117 | What do you mean? You know, [like they're even] conservative. Like | 1433.8407 |
1303 | LES_int_01 | 1432.3425 | [Yeah.] | 1432.9021 |
1304 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1434.0170 | No. | 1434.3126 |
1306 | | 1434.4844 | They believe that bootstrap shit too. | 1436.2955 |
1308 | | 1436.4630 | You know, like you gotta pull yourself [up at your boot] straps. | 1438.9306 |
1309 | LES_int_01 | 1437.7364 | [Right.] | 1438.3974 |
1310 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1439.1584 | you have to pull yourself up by your [bootstraps.] | 1441.3000 |
1311 | LES_int_01 | 1441.0303 | [Mm-hm.] | 1441.5371 |
1312 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1441.6129 | My- I'm working on a quote. | 1442.7806 |
1314 | | 1442.8643 | I haven't refin- I haven't- | 1443.8249 |
1316 | | 1444.2564 | bare with me. | 1444.8160 |
1318 | | 1444.9614 | [The quote] is though. | 1445.8912 |
1319 | LES_int_01 | 1444.9614 | [Alright.] | 1445.2372 |
1320 | | 1446.9600 | Try um. | 1447.7752 |
1321 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1448.3158 | It's like, you know, we talk about this idea of, you know. I believe in that | 1451.6515 |
1323 | | 1451.8145 | I- you know, I- I'm worried ab- here it is. I'm worried about the person who actually believes | 1455.6799 |
1325 | | 1456.1646 | that they can pull s- they can pull themselves up by their boot straps. | 1458.8733 |
1327 | | 1459.3888 | Because, they're not thinking about the person that | 1461.7483 |
1329 | | 1462.0876 | has to make | 1463.0879 |
1331 | | 1463.4140 | the boots. | 1464.0529 |
1332 | LES_int_01 | 1464.0529 | <laugh> | 1465.1766 |
1333 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1465.6304 | Clean the boots. | 1467.0029 |
1335 | | 1468.0429 | Sell the boot. | 1469.0475 |
1336 | LES_int_01 | 1469.2414 | Yeah. | 1469.5984 |
1337 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1470.3783 | You know what I'm saying? | 1471.0621 |
1338 | LES_int_01 | 1471.1590 | Yeah. | 1471.5071 |
1339 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1471.8024 | There's a whole other bigger picture around that fucking boot. | 1474.1327 |
1340 | LES_int_01 | 1474.1327 | Yeah. | 1474.5690 |
1341 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1474.8655 | Okay. Here we go, pull our selves [up] | 1476.5960 |
1342 | LES_int_01 | 1476.4726 | [A lot-] a lot goes into the boot. | 1477.9355 |
1343 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1477.9355 | A lot goes into [the boot.] | 1479.0926 |
1344 | LES_int_01 | 1478.5524 | [<laugh>] | 1479.8532 |
1345 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1479.9325 | You know, and we never think about those things. Like, [you know.] | 1482.6873 |
1346 | LES_int_01 | 1482.3908 | [Right.] | 1482.7389 |
1347 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1482.8636 | So, you gonna make- okay. If everybody's pulling they own selves up by their bootstraps, does that mean they're gonna start making their own boots? | 1487.1133 |
1348 | LES_int_01 | 1487.1133 | Yeah. | 1487.5496 |
1349 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1487.9241 | Is that what we | 1488.5700 |
1351 | | 1488.8344 | that's what that mean? You gonna make them shine their own boots? | 1491.0156 |
1353 | | 1491.3153 | If we're gonna pull ourselves up by our own boot straps, | 1493.3618 |
1355 | | 1493.6482 | because then everybody's living | 1495.0627 |
1357 | | 1495.2302 | equally, and nobody's doing the, you know, like come on. | 1497.7762 |
1358 | LES_int_01 | 1497.9965 | [Yeah.] | 1498.4812 |
1359 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1498.1596 | [We know this] is gonna always be | 1499.5137 |
1360 | | 1499.9059 | an unjust society. Everything- but does it have to be so hard? Does inequality have to be so hard? | 1504.7280 |
1361 | LES_int_01 | 1504.7676 | Yeah. | 1505.1378 |
1363 | | 1505.4903 | Yeah. | 1505.8825 |
1364 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1506.2130 | You know, I don't get- you know what I'm saying. I [just] | 1507.9512 |
1365 | LES_int_01 | 1507.8278 | [Yeah.] | 1508.2420 |
1366 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1508.3786 | I always think there's gonna be some type of /irocracy/ somewhere | 1511.2649 |
1368 | | 1511.7849 | but | 1512.1085 |
1370 | | 1513.9681 | I mean, hierera- hierarchy. Like, you know, like boom, boom, boom, but | 1516.5759 |
1372 | | 1518.0873 | the end of the day, | 1518.9333 |
1374 | | 1521.6139 | g- does it have to be so hard? | 1523.1870 |
1375 | LES_int_01 | 1523.5219 | [Yeah.] | 1523.9980 |
1376 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1523.8084 | [You know? | 1524.1344 |
1377 | | 1524.2641 | But | 1524.4932 |
1379 | | 1525.8901 | that's tha- the- when- when I came back from my neighborhood, | 1529.1277 |
1381 | | 1529.7182 | and I'm seeing like, damn. I gotta do community service, and this gentrification, | 1533.8126 |
1383 | | 1534.3502 | I wanna be up- I- I- I wanna fight this. And then [when I found-] when GOLES gave me the vehicle, | 1539.3977 |
1384 | LES_int_01 | 1537.2774 | [Yeah.] | 1537.6564 |
1385 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1539.6224 | I decided to be | 1540.6359 |
1387 | | 1540.9179 | a part of the solution. Not the problem, not the complainer. | 1543.5163 |
1388 | LES_int_01 | 1543.8318 | [Yeah.] | 1544.2346 |
1389 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1543.8865 | [And not] this person by myself. | 1546.0798 |
1390 | LES_int_01 | 1546.0710 | [Yeah.] | 1546.4588 |
1391 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1546.2913 | [You know.] | 1546.7672 |
1392 | LES_int_01 | 1546.7672 | Yeah. | 1547.0316 |
1393 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1547.1903 | I felt | 1547.7455 |
1395 | | 1548.0187 | I felt like people had my back. I felt like GOLES was- /Froze/ was my gang. | 1551.1394 |
1397 | | 1551.2231 | I did. | 1551.5316 |
1398 | LES_int_01 | 1551.6373 | Yeah. | 1552.0912 |
1399 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1552.1705 | And I used to do things off the strength of- | 1554.0565 |
1401 | | 1554.5441 | Before I even worked there. That's why I think /RD-NAME-3/ hired me. Because I just- I would love my organization right? | 1558.4380 |
1403 | | 1558.9183 | And | 1559.3199 |
1405 | | 1559.5226 | I w- I would be like um | 1560.9654 |
1407 | | 1561.3399 | I would tell the- I would tell business owners. | 1563.2074 |
1409 | | 1563.5379 | Like, the- like uh. This business owner. | 1565.1652 |
1411 | | 1565.3155 | There was a crowd. It was all crazy in the front, and I was like, listen. | 1567.5403 |
1413 | | 1568.4393 | Um. | 1568.9722 |
1415 | | 1569.2322 | I'm a member of Good Old Lower East Side. I'm a member of Froze. | 1571.6558 |
1417 | | 1573.0167 | And we don't like this shit. | 1574.3519 |
1419 | | 1575.1759 | And | 1575.6870 |
1421 | | 1576.1674 | if you want people protesting in front of your business, | 1578.6614 |
1423 | | 1579.2937 | then keep this going. | 1580.2852 |
1424 | LES_int_01 | 1580.6201 | Yeah. | 1581.0740 |
1425 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1581.2546 | And, actually, the guy's like, nah man. | 1582.8674 |
1427 | | 1582.9467 | I feel y'all. I'm from the neighborhood too. He was a guy from the neighborhood [too.] | 1585.5362 |
1428 | LES_int_01 | 1585.2541 | [<laugh>] | 1586.1986 |
1429 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1585.8545 | [And he was like] nah. I know they act all cra- | 1587.2910 |
1430 | | 1587.4673 | I said, man, control this shit. | 1588.9611 |
1432 | | 1589.3048 | Control this fucking | 1590.5637 |
1434 | | 1590.8281 | party on the block. Because I can't party on the block. | 1593.0534 |
1436 | | 1593.3839 | When I stand on the block, I- I deal with youth. | 1595.5487 |
1438 | | 1596.1625 | When we stand on the block and talk, | 1597.6828 |
1440 | | 1598.4098 | cops stop us and tell us to keep it moving. | 1600.4070 |
1442 | | 1601.3544 | Or, I seen kids get strip searched in front of fucking mad people. | 1604.8302 |
1444 | | 1605.1474 | Where cops pull down they pants. | 1606.7426 |
1446 | | 1609.8237 | Pulling they pants. | 1610.8857 |
1448 | | 1611.2778 | And you got six squad cars. | 1613.0105 |
1450 | | 1613.2484 | And I'm like what was that kid doing? Riding his bike on the sidewalk. | 1616.2140 |
1451 | LES_int_01 | 1617.3866 | /inaudible/ | 1618.3389 |
1452 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1618.6075 | You know. | 1619.0438 |
1454 | | 1619.2421 | I've been harassed. I've had a cop pull a gun | 1621.2856 |
1456 | | 1622.3299 | <ts> out on me once. | 1623.1540 |
1458 | | 1623.6343 | They had their guns drawn | 1624.7667 |
1459 | LES_int_01 | 1625.0532 | [Yeah.] | 1625.2294 |
1460 | LES_se0_ag2_f_01 | 1625.1193 | [Because] we was in the park playing basketball. We had beads of sweat coming down our heads. | 1628.5508 |
1461 | | 1628.8549 | This is when I was younger. | 1629.7362 |
1463 | | 1630.3751 | And we was like, yo. | 1631.6387 |
1465 | | 1632.4055 | But, and this is when they started enforcing all that shit. | 1634.6219 |
1467 | | 1634.8202 | All the parks gotta be closed. | 1636.3748 |
1469 | | 1636.6436 | That sign was always there, but nobody ever f- forced that shit. | 1639.5216 |
1471 | | 1639.7243 | Now, they enforcing it. No. The parks gotta be closed. | 1642.0862 |
1473 | | 1642.2844 | And now, I got a gun pointed at me. | 1644.0162 |
1475 | | 1646.3079 | Man. | 1646.7838 |