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1LES_int_010.3593We're back on. Okay, so I mean1.9468
3 2.1851so, there's a couple like f-3.3817 
5 4.0155s- forces going on right? I mean this- there's some stuff-6.7673 
7 6.8648still some tough stuff happening in your community, but at the same time, now, back this gentrification.12.0957 
8LES_se0_ag2_f_0112.2907[Yeah.]12.7427
9LES_int_0112.4016[That's coming] in.13.2487
10LES_se0_ag2_f_0113.2709And then. [Okay.]13.8192
11LES_int_0113.6508[So, how do things] interact? Like [/inaudible/]16.0041
12LES_se0_ag2_f_0113.9079[This is.]14.4219
14 15.4545[Alright. I got] friends from w- from [college.]17.9452 
15LES_int_0117.8964[Yeah.]18.2465
16LES_se0_ag2_f_0118.2465And they come down here and they're pissed off19.9395
17 20.5327about what the change has been.21.8578
18LES_int_0121.9908[Yeah.]22.2966
19LES_se0_ag2_f_0122.1459[Because]22.6289
20 22.9392they w- g- they remember when this place when nobody really wanted to be here.26.2920
21LES_int_0126.3718Right.26.7219
22LES_se0_ag2_f_0126.8637And, so when the first, when like- when the28.4865
24 28.6727bars started first, like tha- remember I told you that close31.1899 
26 31.5710the up close? [Like the beautiful.]32.9094 
27LES_int_0132.1923[Yeah.]32.7197
28LES_se0_ag2_f_0133.1487So, you see bars and34.2347
30 34.4784I'm twenty-one, and I'm like, yeah, I can drink [and]37.0178 
31LES_int_0136.9070[Yeah.]37.3591
32LES_se0_ag2_f_0137.3591I'm identifying with my community in a different way. [I'm older.]40.1643
33LES_int_0139.4242[Right.]39.8497
34LES_se0_ag2_f_0140.4923I'm a-40.7493
36 40.8699coming home from college and42.4018 
38 42.8023wow. This is, you know.44.0034 
40 44.1408This- I- cause I went away to school, but um.46.1484 
42 46.5694It was very close. So, [I w- sometimes] I came home on the weekends.49.1304 
43LES_int_0147.5615[Yeah.]47.8518
44 49.1304Okay.49.5207
45LES_se0_ag2_f_0149.6311Um. Especially when I stopped playing basketball and52.1129
47 52.2858I used to work here. So I- since I- you know I said-54.1536 
49 54.6019you [know, st-]55.3509 
50LES_int_0154.9609[/Yet/] you stayed kind of connected.56.6709
51LES_se0_ag2_f_0156.6228Yeah. Very57.0704
52 57.1723yeah. So I stayed /conne-/ connected.58.7279
54 59.1939And um.59.6282 
56 60.5999Yeah, we'd come down. We'd come down here62.2307 
58 62.4612And we'd frolic these little- we'd frequent these little bars and stuff like [that.]65.8110 
59LES_int_0165.4564[Yeah.] Yeah.66.1788
60LES_se0_ag2_f_0166.2541And um, people from the neighborhood was in the bars.68.5492
61LES_int_0168.7619Yeah.69.1120
62LES_se0_ag2_f_0169.2273And I would go in there and be like70.0161
64 70.1180oh, oh yeah, we're all grown up, we can drink, uh.72.7925 
65LES_int_0172.8723<laugh> [Right.]73.7365
66LES_se0_ag2_f_0173.5194[And I] thought, aye this is nice.75.4693
67 75.7264[Oh. I'm seeing] some trees and some nice good things happening. 78.3336
68LES_int_0175.7264[Yeah.]76.0955
69 78.3336Yeah.78.8388
70LES_se0_ag2_f_0178.8388Hm.79.1740
71 79.6083This is good.80.6276
72LES_int_0180.8536Right.81.1949
73LES_se0_ag2_f_0181.7400I'm seeing a patch of grass.83.3443
74LES_int_0183.3620[Yeah.]83.8938
75LES_se0_ag2_f_0183.7165[You don't] see a patch of grass, now you put it next to a church.86.2349
76 86.5495Now, we seeing a patch of grass87.8303
78 88.0918in a place where I used to s- play with glass.90.1714 
80 90.4329[Like I just told you, now it's] grass here.92.4183 
81LES_int_0190.4329[Yeah.]91.0622
83 91.2262[Yeah.]91.6963 
84 93.0432[And is that what other] people thought?94.5791
85LES_se0_ag2_f_0193.2318[This is good.]93.9099
86 94.6544Yeah. [This is.]95.3192
87LES_int_0195.0141[initially, they were like-]96.0599
88LES_se0_ag2_f_0195.6028[Yeah.]95.9618
89 96.1833This is good.96.7550
90LES_int_0196.7550you're like alright.97.6015
91LES_se0_ag2_f_0197.6015Yeah.97.8674
92 98.0004The waterfront.98.6996
94 99.0098It was, you know, homeless people who always relegated on the waterfront. [It was] nothing to walk103.0674 
95LES_int_01101.7923[Yeah.]102.2233
96LES_se0_ag2_f_01103.5301you know, walk by. [And]104.6912
97LES_int_01104.4430[Yeah.]104.9084
98LES_se0_ag2_f_01105.4047I was just bike riding over there on the waterfront. I'm like, it is fucking bike lanes and shit like that.109.6385
100 109.8646Why am I resenting these things?111.4600 
101LES_int_01111.4600Yeah.111.8367
102LES_se0_ag2_f_01111.8367And I'm thinking, you know why I resent this shit? Cause it should have been here ten years ago.115.0665
103 115.3723It's so-116.1523
105 116.8441it's so117.6374 
107 117.9166late118.3420 
109 119.1362you know.119.5838 
110LES_int_01119.5838Uh-huh.120.0624
111LES_se0_ag2_f_01120.0624And so121.0152
112 121.5559you know y- uh. Uh. I never- it didn't til then like people would come into the bars, and then now,126.1316
114 126.6900more and more, I'm coming to these bars128.4818 
116 128.7965and there's new people coming in.129.9982 
118 130.2110And they're not even from the neighborhood.131.6203 
119LES_int_01131.6601Yeah.132.1710
120LES_se0_ag2_f_01132.2407And now, the bar133.5028
122 133.6934the- the- the guys at the bouncers are telling us that we can't come in.136.9272 
124 137.6186And that we don't have the right dress codes.139.5891 
125LES_int_01140.1796What?140.5164
126LES_se0_ag2_f_01141.4338And [it's l-]142.0454
127LES_int_01141.8238[Really?]142.1783
128LES_se0_ag2_f_01142.2891Yeah.142.6924
130 143.0744And then I'm no- s- only s- I'm seeing this as this patterning.145.8974 
131LES_int_01146.1323[Yeah.]146.5533
132LES_se0_ag2_f_01146.2165[Where] old money147.3453
133 148.3779is now old.149.2421
134LES_int_01149.7651[Yeah.]150.1994
135LES_se0_ag2_f_01149.9290[Now, people] want new money.151.1254
136 151.6971And I've seen this spill into152.9867
138 153.1374businesses,153.9174 
140 154.3871into where the land is used,155.9666 
141LES_int_01155.9666Mm-hm.156.4718
142LES_se0_ag2_f_01156.6845the way businesses run. Yeah, there-158.1672
144 158.3253this stuff, and the way landlords are-159.8942 
146 160.0797harass residents.161.0813 
147LES_int_01161.1832[Yeah.]161.6043
148LES_se0_ag2_f_01161.3162[We don't] want you old residents anymore.163.3415
149LES_int_01163.4354[Right.]163.9530
150LES_se0_ag2_f_01163.7944[Your money] was good to sustain us.165.4863
151LES_int_01165.5484Yeah.165.8985
152LES_se0_ag2_f_01165.9251But now we got new people coming in.167.2683
153LES_int_01167.3392Yeah.167.7558
154LES_se0_ag2_f_01167.7691And that's what I was feeling, like this money that I've invested in this community for ye- I'm twenty-nine years old.172.2882
155LES_int_01172.4256[Yeah.]172.7668
156LES_se0_ag2_f_01172.5984[How much] money did I put in this neighborhood?174.3674
157 174.5713[With my] little checks.175.6571
158LES_int_01174.5713[Yeah.]174.9200
159 175.8817Yeah.176.3116
160LES_se0_ag2_f_01176.6396Now, w- it's not for me anymore?178.3458
161LES_int_01178.5009Yeah.178.8998
162LES_se0_ag2_f_01179.2233My first little dollar, I went right across the street to some bakery and bought something.182.3914
164 182.6795This is my neighborhood. I've invested in it.184.3591 
165LES_int_01184.5408Yeah.184.9396
166LES_se0_ag2_f_01184.9396And m- when- when the parks weren't safe,187.3244
167 187.7853that was a- that was188.7469
169 189.1015my mother and- and190.4774 
171 191.0048<ts> and parents, they s-192.3064 
173 192.4394they went and made complaints about that.194.1855 
174LES_int_01194.7410Right.195.0290
175LES_se0_ag2_f_01195.0246You know, [they did.]195.8578
176LES_int_01195.4279[Right.]195.7204
177LES_se0_ag2_f_01196.1148They did community clean ups.197.7097
179 198.1351It was us when the city wouldn't even do it.199.8369 
180LES_int_01200.0452Yeah.200.4308
181LES_se0_ag2_f_01201.2684So,202.0350
183 202.5175it's like, wow.203.4836 
185 203.6875And now I can't even go to no bar here.205.4469 
187 205.9743Then I was looking for waitressing. This is when it was really hitting me. I'm [looking for] waitressing jobs in the middle.210.0856 
188LES_int_01208.5212[Yeah.]208.8625
189 210.0856Yeah.210.3405
190LES_se0_ag2_f_01210.3405And I th- my school let us out early, you'd get out in May.213.0616
191LES_int_01213.2610Yeah.213.5325
192LES_se0_ag2_f_01213.4737S- I thought this was a benefit man, I'm like yo, [this] is a benefit.216.3095
193LES_int_01215.3605[Yeah.]215.6319
194LES_se0_ag2_f_01216.5311We get out in May, I could definitely get me a little job.218.8843
195LES_int_01218.8843Yeah, [yeah.]219.3284
196LES_se0_ag2_f_01219.2211[I-] I'm ahead of everybody.220.1784
197LES_int_01220.1784Yeah, yeah, yeah.221.0337
198LES_se0_ag2_f_01221.6010No.221.9068
200 222.7763Could not find a job.223.7006 
202 223.7892And I-224.0551 
204 224.1659And I'd say224.9503 
206 225.2472that I really- it was discrimination.227.2238 
208 227.4542I really feel it, because228.5943 
210 229.7769I- I know how to look for a job.231.0932 
212 231.3990Kay. I'm [I know how to look for a job. Trust me.]233.6946 
213LES_int_01231.8268[Yeah.]232.1725
215 232.3675[<laugh>]232.7390 
217 233.1120[Yeah.]233.3292 
218 233.6946<laugh>234.0802
219LES_se0_ag2_f_01234.0802And when the job openings were there, I came, I was there,237.0127
220 237.3451<ts> and um.238.1146
222 238.8724<ts> All I did was leave resumes in every places and stuff like [that.]241.6467 
223LES_int_01241.5929[Yeah.]241.8810
224LES_se0_ag2_f_01242.1779And it really hit me when I was leaving one guy244.2741
226 244.3982he- fo- one guy he had a- he was doing interviews.246.4440 
227LES_int_01246.4440Yeah.246.7232
228LES_se0_ag2_f_01247.0112And he's like247.5568
230 247.9459he's just248.4195 
232 248.5034finished this lady, and I said, oh. I'm here for an interview.250.5224 
233LES_int_01250.6761Yeah.251.0141
234LES_se0_ag2_f_01251.0668He- he wasn't even acknowledging me either. He's like253.0936
236 253.5897after he just interviewed her, he walked and started cutting lemons, and I was like256.6777 
238 257.0098Oh, I'm- I'm here for a interview, it says that you're doing interviews, so I'm here for that. 259.8240 
239LES_int_01259.8832Yeah.260.2069
240LES_se0_ag2_f_01260.2411He's like, oh yeah. Okay.261.3914
242 261.9094I said262.2694 
244 262.5021so,262.8841 
246 263.0553are you263.4636 
248 263.6436you know.263.9679 
250 264.0294he says, no. We're not doing it anymore.265.2762 
252 265.5089I said265.7767 
254 265.9216oh, okay.266.7382 
256 267.1904Is there a time where I can come back? He's like268.5937 
258 268.9098Nah. Just leave your resume.269.9723 
260 270.0601Just leave it.270.4991 
262 270.7362And I said, okay. Thank you.271.7811 
264 272.2289So then,272.6811 
266 273.1465I273.6338 
268 273.8489walked out, and I said, I- let me just go back in and ask him when is a good time to call.277.2938 
270 277.4957So, I went back.278.1060 
272 278.4144This motherfucker was throwing my resume in the garbage.280.8274 
274 282.9978Throwing my resume in the fucking [garbage.]284.8772 
275LES_int_01284.3111[Yeah.]284.7237
276LES_se0_ag2_f_01285.4787I got my k- I got my way back with them287.2921
278 287.5160they used to keep this um,288.7174 
280 288.8754freaking sign in front of the290.0213 
282 290.1223the store all the time.291.1803 
283LES_int_01291.1803Yeah.291.6369
284LES_se0_ag2_f_01291.6852Man. I called, make so many complaints. And m- I don't know how [many fines] they got.294.5202
285LES_int_01293.7915[<laugh>]294.1251
286 294.6783[<laugh>]295.4625
287LES_se0_ag2_f_01294.9532[And uh- and you] can follow up. It's real.296.6303
288 296.7708It's- happens. All you gotta- people [don't even know.]298.7245
289LES_int_01298.1524[<laugh>]299.3510
290LES_se0_ag2_f_01298.9133[All you got to do] is call three-one-one.300.5903
291LES_int_01300.5903Yeah.300.8813
292LES_se0_ag2_f_01300.8274Make the complaint, they'll give you a ticket number, a reference, you'll follow up304.1723
293 304.4488It's so [easy. It's so easy.] And I got- they got at least307.4046
294LES_int_01305.0934[<laugh>]306.2623
295LES_se0_ag2_f_01307.8524two fines from me.308.6646
297 308.9280Cause I never [kept track.]310.0563 
298LES_int_01309.3666[Good for you. Good for you. (laughing)]311.8076
299LES_se0_ag2_f_01310.2139[Yeah. Fuck that.]311.0612
301 311.5968[Fuck that.]312.0490 
302 312.4382But, I'm like wow. All these people that work in the n-314.7607
304 314.9012work in315.5641 
306 315.7222in these stores, they're not even from the neighborhood.317.8207 
307LES_int_01317.9437[Yeah.]318.2264
308LES_se0_ag2_f_01318.0139[I thought] it must be a benefit.319.3822
309 319.6280But he- that was what he used to work against me.321.9900
310LES_int_01322.1963Yeah.322.7151
311LES_se0_ag2_f_01322.7825He probably thought323.6517
313 323.9371um man, and this is what um,325.4327 
315 326.2756another guy told me327.2634 
316LES_int_01327.3512Yeah.327.6717
317LES_se0_ag2_f_01327.7859He was like, um328.6903
319 329.7483we usually don't330.5325 
321 331.0140we- we had somebody here local. I said, I worked here333.3182 
323 333.7791<ts> I said, I'm local.334.4772 
325 334.8240And um.335.2938 
327 335.5352<ts> I'm flexible, I'm saying all things they wanna hear.337.0850 
328LES_int_01337.1245Yeah.337.4494
329LES_se0_ag2_f_01337.4757I'm like, I'm right here, so338.4240
331 338.8411whenever you need me, I'm on call.340.0880 
332LES_int_01340.1977Yeah.340.5182
333LES_se0_ag2_f_01340.8211That's a- that seems like a benefit for a restaurant.342.6420
334LES_int_01342.8483Sure.343.2610
335LES_se0_ag2_f_01343.2610Mm. Like, yeah.344.1391
336 344.4157But,344.7581
338 345.1532we had some guy here346.0845 
340 346.3435and he was hooking up his friends.347.8011 
342 348.9821So, I was like, well that's that guy.350.2465 
343LES_int_01350.5450Yeah.350.9709
344LES_se0_ag2_f_01350.9797You know what I'm saying? [Uh.]351.9516
345LES_int_01351.7013[Yeah.]352.0920
346LES_se0_ag2_f_01352.5838And um.353.3038
348 353.5496He did. They hired me.354.6955 
350 354.9545They hired me to work, but then that made me realize,357.5184 
352 358.1814like, um.359.1165 
354 360.8589<ts> Just why people were not-362.1759 
356 362.2945it made me362.7544 
358 362.9334k- put things in perspective [for me.]364.2289 
359LES_int_01364.0485[Right.] Right. [Right. Right.]365.8968
360LES_se0_ag2_f_01365.1066[So, now I'm seeing the] neighborhood change a lot.366.8627
361 367.1876The streets are getting more crowded.368.5090
363 368.6978Our neighborhood is no longer a neighborhood, it is a destination.371.2709 
364LES_int_01371.5400[Yeah.]371.9175
365LES_se0_ag2_f_01371.7902[I] look on the internet. There's flashy beautiful colors.374.3366
366 374.6922[And it's describing] the Lower East Side like some real hipster place.377.8356
367LES_int_01374.6922[Yeah.]375.0654
368LES_se0_ag2_f_01378.1254to go and have fun, and party at.380.2601
370 380.5762And it's not talking about the churches,382.3455 
372 382.5826it's not talking about the schools,384.1543 
373LES_int_01384.3474[Yeah.]384.7784
374LES_se0_ag2_f_01384.3650[it's not talking] about the families and hospitals. Like387.1363
375 387.3910things that constitute communities like389.3798
377 389.7354they're not talking about390.7452 
379 391.0261those things in these392.0121 
381 392.1263flashy little [websites.]393.7964 
382LES_int_01393.6779[Yeah.]394.0291
383LES_se0_ag2_f_01394.6613They're talking about395.4427
385 396.6852destination.397.4711 
386LES_int_01397.5676[Yeah.]398.0030
387LES_se0_ag2_f_01397.7169[Then they're] not punching gentrification399.4637
388 399.7745on Google, that shit.400.7105
389LES_int_01401.9222[Like what comes up? (laughing) <laugh>]404.5981
390LES_se0_ag2_f_01402.2976[My neighborhood comes up.]403.5796
392 404.0976[That's fucked up.]404.9054 
393 405.1179That does- that d- that is really- that f- like imagine like just growing up here and seeing that shit. That will fuck you're head up.411.4097
394LES_int_01411.4800Yeah.411.9346
395LES_se0_ag2_f_01411.8707Like wow. Places where412.9156
396 413.0122it was crack vials414.0269
398 414.3649everywhere. Now people wanna live here?416.0332 
399LES_int_01416.3406Yeah.416.6040
400LES_se0_ag2_f_01416.6567Or, when they saw a beautiful,417.8678
402 418.3332at the end of the day, I can't enjoy that?419.8873 
403LES_int_01420.0322Yeah.420.4581
404LES_se0_ag2_f_01421.1413It's something seriously wrong-423.0851
406 423.6759wrong with that.424.3363 
407LES_int_01424.7710Yeah. So, you talked about community. Um.427.5709
409 427.7640I mean, first of all, like, what- what does that word mean to you? How do you define431.3739 
411 431.6374community?432.2680 
412LES_se0_ag2_f_01433.5149<ts> Alright, well434.3402
414 435.1612you could break it up.435.9076 
415LES_int_01436.4476Yeah.436.8295
416LES_se0_ag2_f_01437.9758Um.438.4894
418 441.2231<ts> And441.8992 
420 443.1723When you put the- when you break up the word,445.0455 
422 445.7918you know, like come- k- k- like447.5392 
424 448.9177unity.449.5499 
425LES_int_01449.7478Yeah.449.9981
426LES_se0_ag2_f_01449.9981You know. Come and unify.451.1606
427LES_int_01451.3186Yeah.451.7357
428LES_se0_ag2_f_01451.8586Come and unite.452.6840
429LES_int_01452.9951Right.453.3683
430LES_se0_ag2_f_01453.7546Come-unity.454.5756
431LES_int_01454.7995Right.455.1990
432LES_se0_ag2_f_01455.2956I- you know.455.9893
434 456.9222And what I think about is like, um.458.9813 
436 459.2579Well, people actually tell me that461.0359 
438 461.8613a lot- they don't have um.463.0950 
440 463.3765<ts> People tell me that wow, you know what, your neighborhood is really like a village.466.1983 
442 466.7251Like, you know, like467.4759 
444 467.9939you really468.5647 
446 468.7995people that come from outside, they [be like.]470.1474 
447LES_int_01469.8777[Like] a urban [village]471.3020
448LES_se0_ag2_f_01471.1948[Yeah.] They're [like]471.8973
449LES_int_01471.9043thing.472.4241
450LES_se0_ag2_f_01472.4856Well, they're no- not like a vill- more like a-474.6836
452 474.7802a k- like a real sense of community, like476.6021 
453LES_int_01476.7734[Yeah.]477.1860
454LES_se0_ag2_f_01476.9270[I went] to school with people478.3626
455 478.8133that I still s- I- I went to480.3367
457 480.6265p- I went to elementary school, and I still see these people.482.7311 
458LES_int_01482.7311Yeah [yeah.]483.4625
459LES_se0_ag2_f_01483.3150[And] my f- my sister's woman.484.5443
460 484.8984She was telling me, that, you know, she goes back to her neighborhood in Staton I- Long Island or Staton Island. One of those.489.4467
462 489.5696No, Long Island.490.2150 
463LES_int_01490.3072Yeah.490.6859
464LES_se0_ag2_f_01490.9142And491.4410
466 491.9766The block isn't the same, you know, everybody's not, you know. She doesn't know everybody walking down the street, and then [she- you know,] if she does she just met them.499.1668 
467LES_int_01497.0582[Yeah.]497.4616
468LES_se0_ag2_f_01499.5312Where, when I'm walking down the street, I've known these people501.7142
470 501.8717since I was five.502.6664 
471LES_int_01502.6752[Right.]503.0521
472LES_se0_ag2_f_01502.8639[Or]503.2195
473 503.8424you know, I've seen or we505.0673
475 505.1814it's very- it's deep how it's very like villagey over here.508.3848 
477 508.9204Like everybody's been in each other's lives and then510.6897 
479 511.1990a- for- for many [years.]512.6550 
480LES_int_01512.5804[Right.]512.9931
481LES_se0_ag2_f_01512.9931For many years. It's deep.514.3936
482LES_int_01514.7536[Okay.]515.0214
483LES_se0_ag2_f_01514.8941[And I'm] like wow. I don't wanna take516.0399
484 516.4043I- I don't I wouldn't- I don't take that for granted.518.4689
486 518.7323Like- [like] my friend519.7552 
487LES_int_01518.9055[Okay.]519.1909
488LES_se0_ag2_f_01520.0318she- before I came here, I came here, I said, I have to go, I have a interview. I have to leave, I have to go. You know.523.3573
490 523.9543Um. Do this interview.524.9187 
492 525.1997Um.525.5597 
494 526.4904<ts> But I went to- I went to preschool with her.528.9841 
496 529.5373And529.9327 
497LES_int_01529.9327[Yeah.]530.4025
498LES_se0_ag2_f_01530.1566[We were] ketchup sisters.531.3270
499 531.4894[Cause our mothers] would whoop our asses if we cut out, did [some blood sister shit.]535.3002
500LES_int_01531.4894[<laugh>]532.0165
502 534.3199[<laugh>]535.1365 
503LES_se0_ag2_f_01535.6734So, that was my ketchup sister. 537.0135
504LES_int_01537.0135[<laugh>]537.7402
505LES_se0_ag2_f_01537.4218[We-] you know, I still see her.539.0248
506 539.1697You know, like [we-]539.9687
507LES_int_01539.8241[Yeah.]540.3334
508LES_se0_ag2_f_01540.4384people know, like I can't put anything on anybody543.2880
510 543.5032[In this] neighborhood. Cause everybody knows who I was when I was little?545.7978 
511LES_int_01543.5401[Yeah.]543.8870
512 546.1709Now, like547.0095
514 547.1588so those are the people that548.7612 
516 549.2134you grew up with that have lived here for a while. Like what about the new folks that are moving in? Are they554.1464 
518 554.2342do they become a part of the Lower East Side556.3855 
520 556.4777community?557.0264 
521LES_se0_ag2_f_01558.7518Oh.558.9274
523 559.2172When I was little, I used to hope for this.560.9612 
525 561.1851Right.561.4768 
526LES_int_01561.4768Yeah.561.9289
527LES_se0_ag2_f_01561.8612I wasn't- I used to work at Goldman Sachs. This big time564.2660
528 564.7149uh- a trading company [on the Lower East Side.]566.9484
529LES_int_01565.8344[Yeah. Yeah.]566.9045
530LES_se0_ag2_f_01567.2338And um.567.8616
532 569.0470I used to g- I was wondering, like why570.9480 
534 571.2465well, people I worked with don't live over here.572.6148 
536 573.3523And I used to tell my co-workers. Cause I was young, I was a intern, and they put me on576.6011 
538 576.8163full time.577.3591 
539LES_int_01577.5038[Yeah.]577.9434
540LES_se0_ag2_f_01577.6313[Like,] so I'm just like, they just liked the way I w- you know, work, so I'm working in this corporates s- 581.1523
541 581.4158place581.7275
542LES_int_01581.9065[Yeah.]582.3851
543LES_se0_ag2_f_01582.1172[full time.] And I used to say to my co-workers, like584.0572
544 584.6630you co- you travel hours to get here.586.5201
545LES_int_01586.8582[Right.]587.3060
546LES_se0_ag2_f_01587.1084[You know] I takes me thirty minutes.588.7767
547LES_int_01588.9172Yeah.589.3743
548LES_se0_ag2_f_01589.3222I was like, I don't get why people don't live over here. It's not as bad as people think.592.8212
549 592.9398I used to say that all the [time.]593.9759
550LES_int_01593.8354[<laugh>] You're like it's [okay.]595.3998
551LES_se0_ag2_f_01595.2227[It's] not as bad as people think.596.4964
552LES_int_01596.4745Yeah.596.8784
553LES_se0_ag2_f_01596.9311And then I saw, I remember this white couple coming in the neighborhood.599.4687
555 599.7233Because you had600.4982 
557 600.8055white- when you saw white people in this neighborhood,602.6362 
558LES_int_01602.6362Yeah.603.0972
559LES_se0_ag2_f_01603.7294They were on drugs,604.8753
561 605.5997they were a undercover cop,606.8070 
562LES_int_01606.8070<laugh>607.8299
563LES_se0_ag2_f_01607.8299or maybe some artist that did not give a fuck. [Like, they] was just like, fuck it, I'm a artist.611.9579
564LES_int_01610.0305[Right.]610.3115
565LES_se0_ag2_f_01612.3618And, I'm not scared of none of y'all.613.7979
566LES_int_01613.9335[<laugh>]614.9608
567LES_se0_ag2_f_01614.1135[That's- that's what you had.] Those are the three types of white people. [That's it.]617.3936
568LES_int_01616.8221[Right.]617.1603
569 617.7471Right.618.0632
570LES_se0_ag2_f_01618.3705And um.619.1300
572 619.3978Just be honest, right?620.4515 
573LES_int_01620.4036[Yeah, yeah.]620.9463
574LES_se0_ag2_f_01620.7899[So,] I saw these two, I saw this white couple come, and I remem- I remember this day. And they said625.0474
575 625.2054we're looking for housing. And I'm like626.5066
577 626.5944I'm telling them to- li- they should go to my projects, and I'm like, you know what,629.5666 
579 630.3475my-630.6022 
581 630.9007where I live at, my building's [nice.]632.5838 
582LES_int_01632.3555[It's really nice.]633.2599
583LES_se0_ag2_f_01632.9482[It's nice.] It's beautiful.634.0678
584LES_int_01634.1687[Yeah.]634.4541
585LES_se0_ag2_f_01634.3882[Y'all] should move in there. [And then what I was] thinking of, was like wow.636.9478
586LES_int_01635.2399[It is. (laughing)]635.8414
587LES_se0_ag2_f_01637.2156My neighborhood would get more mixed.639.0815
588LES_int_01639.3899[Right.]639.7543
589LES_se0_ag2_f_01639.5742[And] everybody would be mixed. Like, I always, [always]642.2315
590LES_int_01641.7452[You like] that. You would- [yeah.]643.0257
591LES_se0_ag2_f_01642.8720[I've] always liked that. My [mothers] raised us like that.644.9618
592LES_int_01643.8842[Yeah.]644.1037
593 645.1330Mm-hm.645.3745
594LES_se0_ag2_f_01645.4096The first time I said something bad about a white person,647.5257
595LES_int_01647.7540Mm-hm.648.0262
596LES_se0_ag2_f_01648.0262I didn't even know what that meant.649.4832
597 649.7159[Because my] mother's- one of my mother's best friends are white.651.5994
598LES_int_01649.8178[Mm-hm.]650.1295
599 651.8847Mm-hm.652.3062
600LES_se0_ag2_f_01652.3062But I never652.8242
601 652.9598looked- I never653.8719
603 654.0036put that connection. I never thought of color or- I just really do- didn't.657.3934 
605 657.5163[Like I was] that's how innocent it is.659.0172 
606LES_int_01657.5163[Yeah.]658.0079
607 659.1007Yeah.659.4958
608LES_se0_ag2_f_01659.5397And I'm just like660.2817
610 660.4397and I forgot so- oh. Something happened with these- we got followed in the store662.7227 
612 662.8500by these white people. [And I remember] I came home /??/664.7093 
613LES_int_01663.5703[Uh.]663.8733
614LES_se0_ag2_f_01665.0504These white people. They- I just came home crying about it and I was like667.3544
616 667.6705white people, they- I'm'a fuck them up. They made me /this-/ You know, I was so [angry.]671.3188 
617LES_int_01670.8494[Uh-huh.]671.3188
618LES_se0_ag2_f_01671.6376And my mother said, oh. Oh.673.2533
620 673.4420You got all that about white people?675.1191 
622 675.3255Oh.675.5713 
624 675.9050Really?676.2079 
626 676.4669I'm like yeah. Fuck that.677.5277 
628 677.9316I don't like them, /you know what they make me say/.679.4068 
630 679.6834She go, oh. Why don't you tell /RD-NAME-2/ all of that?681.3604 
632 681.6985I'm'a p- I'm'a call her right now.682.9335 
634 683.3975And I- I was like, tell /RD-NAME-2/?684.9786 
636 685.0795And then, it li- it slowly dawned on me. And I was like, no. I remember, begging my mother and crying, like please don't call [her.]692.1067 
637LES_int_01687.1763[Right.]687.5407
639 691.8634[Don't call /RD-NAME-2/]693.3402 
640LES_se0_ag2_f_01692.5414[Please don't tell] her I said that.694.5346
641 694.6531Please. But she goes, no, but she is white.696.5277
643 697.0425And you real right? Go tell everything you told me, tell her.700.2957 
644LES_int_01700.6030Yeah.700.8840
645LES_se0_ag2_f_01700.8840And that's when I had to literally put things in perspective.702.8736
646 703.0440[I've always] wanted things mixed up.704.4363
647LES_int_01703.0883[Yeah.]703.4438
648 704.4363Yeah.704.8194
649LES_se0_ag2_f_01704.7699Cause then I was like, wow. You know what? Then706.1397
650 706.4470what it is, is what things that- like what society's teaching me709.1838
652 709.5614to make- you know, make these-710.4965 
654 710.6019these differences. It's not like712.0786 
655LES_int_01712.2147[Yeah.]712.7152
656LES_se0_ag2_f_01712.6099[I-] I- I really should just take people for who they are. I've always like mixing and whatever.716.1775
657LES_int_01716.4760Yeah.716.8080
658LES_se0_ag2_f_01716.8080And717.2207
659LES_int_01717.5500But- but maybe there's not mixing.719.3895
660LES_se0_ag2_f_01719.8900But. [This is the thing.]720.7853
661LES_int_01720.2497[That's the- yeah.] So, the mixing's not actually [happening?]722.5634
662LES_se0_ag2_f_01722.3087[No.] The mix- [the mixing's not happening this time.]724.1351
663LES_int_01722.8498[Yeah.]723.1528
665 723.5391[So, what's- I mean- yeah.]724.7223 
666LES_se0_ag2_f_01724.3546[Because what I] feel like, if you aks me, it's like a distain type of727.8054
667 728.5912disposition I feel729.7832
668LES_int_01729.7832[Yeah.]730.1256
669LES_se0_ag2_f_01729.9763[with n-] the new folk731.2759
670LES_int_01731.2759[Yeah.]731.7112
671LES_se0_ag2_f_01731.4954[coming] in the hood.732.2373
672LES_int_01732.2373Yeah.732.5783
673LES_se0_ag2_f_01732.8739Um.733.2910
675 733.4139Yeah. You could just stand in the middle of the sidewalk. Nobody fucking lives here. Nobody gotta walk through.737.7549 
676LES_int_01737.9789Yeah.738.2203
677LES_se0_ag2_f_01738.2203And then738.7208
678 739.2564um, it's-740.0950
680 740.2136it's more like um,741.1349 
682 741.2227the people look- uh, loo- ask me for directions and don't look at me in my eye.744.2696 
683LES_int_01745.0554Mm-hm.745.2969
685 745.8237[Mm-hm.]746.3418 
686LES_se0_ag2_f_01746.0129[Mm.] Don't fucking ask me shit if you scared.748.0851
687 748.5461You know.748.9500
689 749.0233[Don't do] it.749.5866 
690LES_int_01749.0641[Yeah.]749.3558
691LES_se0_ag2_f_01749.9070[The other] day I was um751.2982
692LES_int_01749.9070[Yeah.]750.2147
693LES_se0_ag2_f_01752.2202<ts>752.3387
695 752.7777this lady, you could tell, she's illegally-754.3901 
697 754.8949she's illegally uh756.0496 
699 756.1418I don't know what she was doing over here, whatever, in m- in the projects over there. But [she was over] there.759.7407 
700LES_int_01759.0655[Yeah.]759.4914
701LES_se0_ag2_f_01760.0524And you know,761.0666
703 763.5685I- cause I've seen her a couple of times. I think she just knows somebody over here. [Or she's]766.7778 
704LES_int_01766.1719[Yeah.]766.6724
705LES_se0_ag2_f_01767.1553but the whole thing was, like she got a little nervous when we was walking out. Like, I feel like she got a little nervous cause she looked and then772.0406
707 772.4050she started speeding up a little bit.773.8055 
709 774.2709And that happens to me a lot.775.1988 
711 775.2910So, it's like almost where I know, it's like, ah man.777.4467 
713 777.5740Fuck that bitch.778.4037 
714LES_int_01778.4037[Yeah.]779.2141
715LES_se0_ag2_f_01778.9262[And then] um.779.7999
716 780.2110The other day,781.1110
718 781.2164uh.781.6993 
720 783.5828I forgot somebody- I was loo-784.8603 
721LES_int_01784.9902Sorry.785.3897
722LES_se0_ag2_f_01785.4969uh. I was look- oh. I'm sorry.786.7289
723LES_int_01786.6836/Sorry ?/.787.1502
724 787.3522[Touch.]787.5673
725LES_se0_ag2_f_01787.4224[I w-]787.5673
726 787.8265I was looking for something789.0031
728 789.0821and um789.7538 
730 791.4413now, I forgot what happened. I just bumped in-793.1184 
732 793.5092I bumped into this guy.794.5145 
734 794.7648[By accident] I wasn't looking.795.8958 
735LES_int_01794.7648[Yeah.]795.0615
736 796.0054Yeah.796.3083
737LES_se0_ag2_f_01796.6861And this guy's like797.4807
739 798.4773He's like um,799.2571 
741 801.3249Yo.801.7332 
743 802.1108Fucking watch where you going.803.7352 
745 804.0864And I'm looking at this white mother fucker805.6894 
747 805.7728your ass is ballsy.807.2002 
748LES_int_01807.3381[<laugh>]809.6166
749LES_se0_ag2_f_01807.4505[Cause]807.7095
751 808.1793[ten years ago,]809.1715 
752 809.9266you wouldn't have even p-811.0988
754 811.2349curled your lip up, talk to me that way.812.7658 
755LES_int_01812.6517[Yeah.]813.3585
756LES_se0_ag2_f_01812.9634[I know you] wouldn't have.814.1143
757LES_int_01814.2190Yeah.814.6099
758LES_se0_ag2_f_01814.6099And so just getting this.815.7645
759 816.0236Even when I go to bars, it's like817.5294
761 817.6655everybody don't get carded. Then I come in, and I get carded, and it's [like]820.6498 
762LES_int_01820.3573Yeah.]820.6690
763LES_se0_ag2_f_01820.9220I- I o- I mean, I know I look young, but it's just like823.1369
765 823.2247all these little different things that824.5111 
767 824.9764I noticed825.8501 
769 826.5043that um.827.5448 
771 828.3087I mean, one day, this lady. <laugh>829.6592 
773 830.3221We'd just- we was-831.0202 
775 831.1387we was celebrating831.9817 
777 832.3856um, winning a victory for affordable housing.834.7432 
779 835.0170[Just a-]835.4297 
780LES_int_01835.0170[Yeah.]835.4297
781LES_se0_ag2_f_01835.7589And this white woman. She comes, she sits there, and she's like um.838.7756
783 840.0444She comes in and she's like um.841.2034 
785 842.4766Oh, can I sit with y'all? Cause it's so noisy in there.844.6816 
787 845.3314So, I was like, ah. I'm thinking she's a old school white person they're like848.1647 
788LES_int_01848.1647Yeah.848.5467
789LES_se0_ag2_f_01848.5467the- the white people that's been here for years. One of the white people that's been here [for years.] And they don't851.8745
790LES_int_01851.1436[Yeah.]851.4933
791LES_se0_ag2_f_01852.0106They tired of the bar too,853.2819
792LES_int_01853.3588[Yeah.]853.6969
793LES_se0_ag2_f_01853.4550[so I] thought she was one of us. I was like,855.1980
794 855.4833hell yeah. Come and sit down man. Yeah. We talking, we drinking.858.9813
795LES_int_01859.1205Yeah.859.4774
796LES_se0_ag2_f_01859.4774And then she860.4564
797 860.7198had a whole different idea of her existence in our community.863.6525
799 864.2189She was- when I told her about the- the af- affordable housing opportunities, she- she was like completely against that. She was like869.8313 
801 870.1606h- oh, I don't get it. I mean.871.2230 
803 871.5435You just should work872.3074 
805 872.5796for what you get. Like I worked874.5377 
807 874.9679s- see where I am today?876.2104 
809 876.4035I worked for that.877.3205 
810LES_int_01877.4566[Oh /?/.]877.9981
811LES_se0_ag2_f_01877.6805[I earned] this.878.7210
812 879.3620And this- if you ask me, we're making the neighborhood better.882.1751
814 882.4166This what she's telling me.883.3034 
816 883.5361The neighborhood was shit884.5886 
818 884.9223when people lived here before and als- and all this other stuff and887.0472 
820 887.5784this lady's like going on about how my nei- Like how she's this benefit to my neighborhood.891.7135 
822 892.6398And I couldn't believe it.893.5882 
823LES_int_01893.6408Oh, you're like. (laughing)894.4662
825 894.5847[Like, I mean, I don't] disagree [with you or uh.]896.7799 
826LES_se0_ag2_f_01894.6550[And I was like]895.4013
828 896.0555[I said miss,] you looking at what we do. We moving from898.5711 
829 898.9135things that are public899.8575
831 899.9628to now private.900.6784 
833 901.2097You're looking at a town where nobody had control over903.4761 
835 903.9854what repairs happened in their building. Let alone in their apartments.906.5010 
837 906.6020You have slum landlords who care less about the residents.909.7795 
838LES_int_01909.7795Yeah.910.2668
839LES_se0_ag2_f_01911.3512Then,911.8648
841 912.1286you- you- now we're moving to a more private914.4730 
843 914.8462uh, sector, with everything916.4032 
845 916.7369and now people wanna give a fuck about shit.918.3218 
847 918.7213And now, landlords, wanna make sure things are correct920.4950 
849 920.6179cause they gonna make more money off of that.922.0652 
850LES_int_01922.0652Yeah.922.5437
851LES_se0_ag2_f_01923.0706And I said, but923.8125
853 924.4052uh. My mother fought for the change.926.6223 
855 926.9384[And the] reason why we lived here, was not because of choice. We was forced to. There was no where else to live.931.4062 
856LES_int_01926.9384[Yeah.]927.2047
857 931.4062Yeah.931.8189
858LES_se0_ag2_f_01931.8584In this- in but this piece of shit hole.933.7594
860 933.8735And when we make the change, we should enjoy it.935.5726 
862 935.8740[You came] here936.8311 
863LES_int_01935.8740[Yeah.]936.2049
864LES_se0_ag2_f_01937.0681not937.5335
866 938.3369cause you didn't have a choice. Because you wanted to.940.8526 
867LES_int_01941.0677Yeah.941.5067
868LES_se0_ag2_f_01942.0013Know what I'm saying? [It wasn't for]943.0593
869LES_int_01942.4949[You want to] appreciate [what you] fought for [right? Yeah.]945.7360
870LES_se0_ag2_f_01943.5994[Yeah.]944.0677
872 944.6881[Yeah.]945.1960 
874 945.5047[It wasn-] y- and she was just like947.2916 
875 947.3750I find myself like948.5457
877 950.8638she's just- she's just like, no. I'm no. I'm952.9096 
879 953.1028we make the neighborhood better. The people didn't appreciate it.955.1208 
881 955.5511I'm like, well, you wasn't there when somebody called five or six times for their landlord to fix their house.959.1862 
883 959.4452That's why these buil- that's how these buildings got decrepit 961.5159 
885 961.6784over a period of time.962.9472 
886LES_int_01963.0309Yeah.963.3730
887LES_se0_ag2_f_01963.3730You know.963.8604
888LES_int_01964.0495[Yeah.]964.4402
889LES_se0_ag2_f_01964.1062[You weren't] here when the sanitation wasn't picking things up regularly. This is the whole city.967.4589
890 967.7091Why didn't they pick up garbage as regularly as they did969.9921
892 970.2247in other parts of th- of the city?971.7043 
893LES_int_01971.7529Yeah.]972.1700
894LES_se0_ag2_f_01972.3681You wasn't here when- for that.973.5642
895LES_int_01973.6941[Yeah.]974.1112
896LES_se0_ag2_f_01974.0208[So,] you can't sit here and say that people didn't care about where they lived at, cause my mother did.977.4409
897 977.6516My mother cared about where we lived at.979.0813
898LES_int_01979.3976[Yeah.]979.7437
899LES_se0_ag2_f_01979.5511[And I'm] happy and I'm fine.980.8242
900 981.3467And then, even the bars. The new bar owners they have the same /iadea/.984.3701
902 984.6730Well,985.0637 
904 985.3535nobody wanted to be here, and now we have these businesses987.5662 
906 987.8560and I'm like man.988.5189 
908 988.6726Y'all still disruptive, y'all still don't give back to the community.991.6289 
909LES_int_01991.6289Yeah.992.1776
910LES_se0_ag2_f_01992.2830<ts> And you still have people that-993.4493
912 993.7391that um994.4942 
914 994.8498they're like yeah, lining up and- and causing ruckus in our- in our [neighborhood. Please.]998.4919 
915LES_int_01997.8581[Yeah. And] not serving [the community. /inaudible/.]1000.7672
916LES_se0_ag2_f_01999.4797[Not serve the neighborhood. You ask] even anybody else too,1002.1095
917 1002.4739like the long standing white people that lived in the [neighborhood,]1004.9582
918LES_int_011004.8441[Yeah.]1005.2480
919LES_se0_ag2_f_011005.5158those, they will fucking tell1007.3312
921 1007.4102they will say the drug dealers saved them.1008.8535 
923 1009.9291I've s- I swear to [God, they will say] the drug dealers protected them1012.6555 
924LES_int_011010.7501[Yeah.]1011.3691
925 1012.6730[Okay.]1013.2680
926LES_se0_ag2_f_011013.0023[from] other drug dealers.1014.3809
927LES_int_011014.3809Yeah.1014.7189
928LES_se0_ag2_f_011014.7496Like, that's what-1015.7620
930 1016.1747that's what it was. I even [heard this one] time I was getting my taxes done and this guy,1019.1540 
931LES_int_011017.1686[Yeah.]1017.5807
932LES_se0_ag2_f_011019.4920he was t- he was an old police officer in the area.1021.5247
934 1022.2843And he was like1022.8857 
936 1023.3731yeah, this neighborhood was bad. That's why I do this now.1025.5259 
938 1025.8771And he was bragging about how1027.3084 
940 1027.7167the- the cops would get called and they would wait for three1030.2220 
942 1031.2757cop cars1032.0308 
944 1032.1230to come to respond before they would get out the car do anything.1035.1069 
946 1035.3000There had to be three on site.1036.5776 
948 1037.9123And how none of them ever wanted to get there. Of course.1040.2903 
950 1040.5537Now, I've watched people die,1042.0420 
952 1042.3537I've watched people die1043.5435 
954 1043.8771in the street1044.4698 
956 1045.4884cause no cops came.1046.4703 
958 1047.0498I've watched that s-1047.8451 
960 1048.3186that's my reality.1049.2493 
962 1049.8025It's happened twice in my life. [Twice too many.]1051.9977 
963LES_int_011051.2252[Yeah.]1051.7409
964LES_se0_ag2_f_011052.7030And I remember one time on Grand Street,1054.2571
966 1054.6127I'm looking outside and everybody's w-1056.9264 
968 1057.4181out1057.7606 
970 1058.2944o- there's no cell phones at the time.1059.6789 
971LES_int_011059.7404[Yeah.]1060.1882
972LES_se0_ag2_f_011060.0828[People] were out their windows1061.5316
973 1062.0394like I saw every window with a phone.1063.8965
974LES_int_011064.1423[Yeah.]1064.4145
975LES_se0_ag2_f_011064.3048[And] the ambulance took1065.3804
976 1065.9248forty-five minutes to get there.1067.4438
978 1068.2896Those are the longest forty-five minutes I've ever seen.1070.3575 
980 1070.8053And this kid died.1071.7887 
981LES_int_011072.4824Was it a shooting?1073.3736
982LES_se0_ag2_f_011073.3736Uh-huh. Yeah. It was a shooting.1074.3116
983 1074.9262And1075.5189
985 1075.7121cops used to shoot kids. Cops used to beat up1078.0960 
987 1078.2453kids in my neighborhood.1079.1629 
989 1079.4219Y- people used to come back fucked up from cops.1081.7955 
991 1083.5867This was it.1084.1481 
993 1084.2447This was us. [This was it.]1085.4768 
994LES_int_011085.1184[Yeah.]1085.5882
995LES_se0_ag2_f_011085.9422And.1086.4998
997 1086.6886So, yeah. We deserve it and1088.4140 
999 1088.6774you know w- why can't we-1089.7530 
1001 1089.9023we live with each other collectively?1091.3523 
1003 1091.6716I- I mean, why can't we1092.6623 
1005 1092.9871why can't there be an /inclusin/1094.5501 
1007 1094.8179uh- uh- a c- an um.1095.7179 
1009 1096.4028<ts> An inc- like an all inclusive community?1098.5086 
1010LES_int_011098.5788[Yeah.]1098.9915
1011LES_se0_ag2_f_011098.7984[I'm] down for that.1099.6237
1012LES_int_011099.6589Yeah.1100.0540
1013LES_se0_ag2_f_011100.2559But,1100.7169
1015 1101.2130you know, when they start1102.2096 
1017 1102.5301chartering all the schools up,1103.9466 
1019 1104.1135chopping them up,1105.1452 
1020LES_int_011105.7818[Mm-hm.]1106.2384
1021LES_se0_ag2_f_011105.9223[And you have] PTAs that can actually1108.1833
1022 1108.4774support a commu- a computer lab, and do all this other stuff, and but they want it on their e-1112.4930
1024 1112.9233they want it on their terms, and kids gotta take specialized tests in these public schools.1116.8071 
1025LES_int_011117.1452Yeah.1117.5008
1026LES_se0_ag2_f_011117.5008Man.1117.9618
1027 1118.5764There's something wrong with that.1119.5555
1028LES_int_011119.8408Yeah, yeah, yeah.1121.0262
1029LES_se0_ag2_f_011121.4740You know, so.1122.3448
1031 1123.5403I remember wanting to g- I went, when after that lady, after I saw that lady, man.1126.2316 
1033 1126.6442I went home and cried.1127.7462 
1035 1128.3725I went home and cried.1129.1540 
1037 1129.8169And I wanted to like1131.1911 
1039 1132.1789Yeah. I felt [helpless.]1133.3423 
1040LES_int_011133.2501[Yeah.]1133.7418
1041LES_se0_ag2_f_011133.9771And I was like, you know what miss,1134.9210
1043 1136.0537I remember me telling her, like tryna hold back my tears, cause I'm very sensitive.1138.8256 
1044LES_int_011138.9502[Yeah.]1139.4595
1045LES_se0_ag2_f_011139.2571[You know] miss,1139.9463
1046 1140.2975you enjoy your food, and you have a nice1142.6288
1048 1143.0239beautiful1143.6678 
1050 1143.9356night.1144.1595 
1052 1144.9102And I got [up]1145.5822 
1053LES_int_011145.3825[Get] out of there.1146.1552
1054LES_se0_ag2_f_011146.4029And I fucking1147.2283
1056 1147.6102m-1147.7946 
1058 1148.0493literally was crying. Somebody-1149.5712 
1060 1150.1814It was so funny too. People have seen me cry in the street1152.5731 
1062 1152.6493about- and it's always about my neighborhood. [And they] think it's about a guy, they be like1155.9405 
1063LES_int_011154.3225[<laugh>]1154.6345
1064LES_se0_ag2_f_011156.3005wait, stop.1157.0900
1066 1157.6352What's [wrong?]1158.3903 
1067LES_int_011158.0938[What did they do to you? <laugh>]1160.2829
1068LES_se0_ag2_f_011158.5440[What did he do to you?]1159.7074
1070 1160.0235[And I'm like]1160.5240 
1071 1160.6337man,1161.0186
1073 1162.2303look at that building!1163.2488 
1074LES_int_011163.2488<laugh>1164.4258
1075LES_se0_ag2_f_011164.5132Man, we getting displaced!1165.9050
1077 1166.1157And I'm really, I'm joking, but1167.5278 
1079 1167.8922[literally, just the other] day I was crying on the corner.1170.2103 
1080LES_int_011167.8922[<laugh>]1168.9676
1082 1170.1721Yeah.1170.5538 
1083LES_se0_ag2_f_011170.5220Because I saw, like on Avenue D,1172.5635
1084 1173.3303it's all torn dow- Avenue D1175.4815
1086 1175.7669is like the p- the- the- was the base- like it was like the- the Mecca of violence for the Lower East Side. Okay?1181.1917 
1087LES_int_011180.4333[Yeah. Yeah.]1181.4036
1088LES_se0_ag2_f_011181.5386It's the last avenue1183.0752
1090 1183.6942in Manhattan,1184.5811 
1091LES_int_011184.6106Yeah.1185.1155
1092LES_se0_ag2_f_011185.5281Kay.1185.9101
1094 1186.4106And this is fucking a- it's not Avenue D, it's D Ave.1189.9372 
1095LES_int_011190.0382<laugh>1190.9338
1096LES_se0_ag2_f_011190.9338You know?1191.5792
1097 1191.7153That's what it is. Like1192.7953
1099 1193.0440you a /??/? I'm on the Ave.1194.4884 
1101 1194.6070[There's thousands] of Ave's in city1196.1163 
1102LES_int_011194.6070[Yeah.]1195.0583
1103LES_se0_ag2_f_011196.3762but you on The [Ave.]1197.8294
1104LES_int_011197.6275[Yeah.] Yeah.1198.5231
1105LES_se0_ag2_f_011198.8852And that- that place was violent and now when you [see]1201.7286
1106LES_int_011201.3952[Right.]1201.7286
1107LES_se0_ag2_f_011201.9832development like a cuchifrito place that1203.9720
1109 1204.2442I used to go to. I rem- I have memories of going to the cuchifrito place1207.4185 
1111 1207.7258after h- after the hospital1208.9770 
1113 1209.3864for soup. They had nice little chicken soup. [And I] could go to the cuchifrito place and get that soup.1213.6922 
1114LES_int_011211.2875[Yeah.]1211.5733
1115 1213.7062Yeah.1213.9580
1116LES_se0_ag2_f_011214.0594It was minority only. Been there forever.1215.9714
1117LES_int_011216.0600[Yeah.]1216.4301
1118LES_se0_ag2_f_011216.1533[These are the] businesses that were serving us when nobody wanted to, [right.]1218.7630
1119LES_int_011218.4925[Right.]1219.0754
1120LES_se0_ag2_f_011219.3132Now, they're gone.1220.0686
1122 1220.2085On the corner, gone.1221.1737 
1124 1221.7927We don't know what's gonna come of that.1223.0843 
1126 1223.7138I don't know what's gonna be built there.1225.0428 
1128 1225.2013[But,] I'll tell you this much.1226.3624 
1129LES_int_011225.2013[Yeah.]1225.3598
1130LES_se0_ag2_f_011226.9545I know it's not gonna be for me.1228.3942
1131LES_int_011228.6927Yeah.1229.2149
1132LES_se0_ag2_f_011229.7232And that's why I got involved with1231.0451
1134 1231.1430the organization.1231.9934 
1135LES_int_011232.0476Right.1232.4672
1136LES_se0_ag2_f_011233.9023Um. Because, I wanted to be a more a part of the-1236.2710
1138 1237.2083the solution, than a part of a problem.1239.0594 
1139LES_int_011239.2040Yeah.1239.5339
1140LES_se0_ag2_f_011239.6738And I felt like I was alone.1241.1612
1142 1242.1031And when I came back from college,1243.8657 
1144 1244.4346uh,1244.8309 
1146 1245.0081one of the things that1245.7904 
1148 1245.8743in p- I lived in p- I was raised in public housing.1247.8187 
1150 1248.1544One of the things is if you are under-employed, or unemployed,1250.4299 
1151LES_int_011250.5745Yeah.1250.9848
1152LES_se0_ag2_f_011251.0734you have to do community service.1252.5084
1154 1253.8700Mandatory community service. [If you do] not do it, the consequence is eviction.1257.2804 
1155LES_int_011255.1709[Huh.]1255.4134
1156LES_se0_ag2_f_011257.8679This is a federal law.1259.0697
1157LES_int_011259.2981Huh.1259.5499
1158LES_se0_ag2_f_011259.5499That's only applicable, arbitrarily1261.4664
1159 1261.8021to residents that live in public housing across the country.1264.1522
1160LES_int_011264.5241Huh.1264.7573
1161LES_se0_ag2_f_011264.9251But, where does that come from? Stigmatizations, right?1267.2146
1162LES_int_011267.4757[Yeah.]1267.7648
1163LES_se0_ag2_f_011267.6902[Stigmatizations] of1268.8699
1164 1269.1497people that live in public housing. They ain't shit. Even subsidies, right? You have [those] stigmatizations for that.1273.4824
1165LES_int_011272.2966[Yeah.]1272.5624
1166LES_se0_ag2_f_011273.8694Subsidies. Oh. People are lazy. They're bums. And there's violence, and there's drugs and they living off the government. They taking my tax dollars, and all of these [things.]1280.4929
1167LES_int_011280.3949[Yeah.]1280.7213
1168LES_se0_ag2_f_011281.2622And1281.6819
1170 1282.2341<ts> I really think that that's- those negative things are spill- they've- they spill into our everyday lives.1287.6151 
1172 1287.7969The way services are allocated and-1289.3615 
1174 1289.7065and in the way even1290.8738 
1176 1291.0603money's appropriated to them on our government levels.1293.4803 
1178 1293.7275The way police come into our community, the way policies are written,1296.5267 
1180 1296.7226these things spill,1297.8510 
1182 1298.0235these things stigmatizations spill into our realities.1300.2212 
1184 1300.6222And make it harder for us to live.1301.9605 
1185LES_int_011302.2216Yeah.1302.6273
1186LES_se0_ag2_f_011302.7205And so, here we got a federal lawyer, says, oh.1304.7995
1188 1305.1819You have to do mandatory community service.1306.9491 
1190 1307.4061And I just came out of college.1309.0148 
1192 1309.8401And I got six months to find a job.1311.6467 
1193LES_int_011311.9674[Yeah.]1312.2332
1194LES_se0_ag2_f_011312.0933[And] that six months passed, and I didn't have a job.1314.2382
1195LES_int_011314.4014Yeah.1314.9097
1196LES_se0_ag2_f_011314.9097Okay, I didn't.1315.6884
1197LES_int_011315.8469You sh- sounds like you sure tried [though. <laugh>]1318.5409
1198LES_se0_ag2_f_011317.3519[Yeah.]1317.9347
1200 1318.2052[And I was even] waitr- that- that was before in the middle1320.4154 
1201 1320.4993[forget about that.] When it was towards my career,1322.5838
1202LES_int_011320.4993[Yeah.]1321.0356
1203 1322.7470[Yeah. Okay, okay.]1324.3977
1204LES_se0_ag2_f_011322.8496[I was looking for other stuff, like teaching] and stuff like [that.]1325.3135
1205LES_int_011325.1690[Yeah.]1325.6539
1206LES_se0_ag2_f_011325.7099And1326.1669
1208 1326.2694come on. I couldn't. I couldn't find a job.1328.1042 
1209LES_int_011328.1648Yeah.1328.5332
1210LES_se0_ag2_f_011328.7477And1329.1767
1212 1329.4378so, that- that effected me.1330.5755 
1213LES_int_011330.7061[Yeah.]1331.0838
1214LES_se0_ag2_f_011330.9439[You know.] And.1331.8438
1215 1332.5153Um.1332.9723
1217 1334.1601Then I see a fly- I was like totally against the community service requirement. I'm like so, I gotta do ninety-six hours cause I can't find a job yet? That's fucked up.1340.5934 
1218LES_int_011340.7799[Yeah.]1341.0970
1219LES_se0_ag2_f_011340.8638[Or, my] mother and all of us get evicted?1342.7174
1220 1343.9425See, a flyer in my building and this-1345.3134
1222 1345.5186this flyer telling people to do the community service.1347.9946 
1224 1348.1951I'm like who the fuck1349.3690 
1226 1349.9052is telling people to do this [shit?]1351.2948 
1227LES_int_011351.1316[Yeah.]1351.7657
1228LES_se0_ag2_f_011352.3066It was GOLES.1352.9688
1229LES_int_011354.2462<laugh>1355.3280
1231 1355.4912It was?1356.0198 
1232LES_se0_ag2_f_011356.0018It was GOLES. And there was a meeting, I said, oh.1358.3828
1233 1358.5816Word. They're telling people to do this slave shit?1360.4279
1235 1360.6565I'm coming. I'm on my way.1361.8998 
1237 1362.0673What date? Boom.1363.0499 
1239 1363.1865I brought six homegirls. My homegirls that I grew up.1365.5199 
1241 1365.6742I ain't seen them in years.1366.8514 
1243 1367.1687I just- I got, said, listen, yo. Y'all heard about this community service shit?1369.8238 
1245 1370.0045Damn. We need to go to [this meeting.]1371.2515 
1246LES_int_011370.6875[<laugh>]1372.2218
1247LES_se0_ag2_f_011371.6842[Right, so,] we came in there hooded.1373.1075
1248 1373.9095Who's presenting?1374.6998
1250 1374.8673Damaris Reyes.1375.9072 
1252 1376.7488and another member that we have, Amanda Morales.1379.4148 
1254 1379.8598And I'm like, yeah. Let me sign y'all little sign in sheet. Let me hear what y'all gotta say about this bullshit1384.7337 
1256 1385.3382community service.1386.2416 
1258 1386.5324Damaris was educating people.1387.8588 
1260 1388.2201And telling them, listen.1389.0265 
1262 1389.1937You have to do this community service,1390.5994 
1264 1390.7624cause it's a federal law and you can get evicted.1392.6572 
1266 1392.8819But, you know what?1393.5764 
1268 1393.6557the same way it's a federal law,1394.9071 
1270 1395.0834you can fight it on a federal level.1396.4098 
1272 1396.6169And here's the ways that you can do it.1397.8727 
1273LES_int_011398.1371[Mm-hm.]1398.5337
1274LES_se0_ag2_f_011398.3090[And that's] how I got involved with goo- Good Old Lower East Side.1400.4405
1275 1400.9428It found me the work.1402.0841
1277 1402.4719But, 1402.9037 
1279 1403.7409that community service requirement shit was fucked up.1406.2245 
1281 1406.6388And I'm like damn. I just came out of school.1408.7627 
1282LES_int_011408.8200Yeah.1409.2122
1283LES_se0_ag2_f_011409.2122Why is this only happening to me?1411.1642
1284 1411.4154So, I'm seeing just a lot of1412.7267
1286 1413.6521how- how my community's being singled out.1416.0272 
1287LES_int_011416.2695Yeah.1416.6009
1288LES_se0_ag2_f_011416.6009You know, and [people] t-1417.5774
1289LES_int_011417.1279[Yeah.]1417.4690
1290LES_se0_ag2_f_011417.6629People have these warped perceptions of like1419.4078
1292 1420.0870tax dollars. Like, the average- aver- the average ed- he average person like1423.3576 
1294 1423.7365my brothers, like1424.5385 
1296 1424.7809my brothers are even like1425.7328 
1298 1425.8121to- they're like some cons- they have these conservative views. I'm like you1428.4915 
1300 1428.5576you a black man. What are you fucking [f-]1430.8355 
1301LES_int_011430.3992[Yeah.]1430.8355
1302LES_se0_ag2_f_011431.0117What do you mean? You know, [like they're even] conservative. Like1433.8407
1303LES_int_011432.3425[Yeah.]1432.9021
1304LES_se0_ag2_f_011434.0170No.1434.3126
1306 1434.4844They believe that bootstrap shit too.1436.2955 
1308 1436.4630You know, like you gotta pull yourself [up at your boot] straps.1438.9306 
1309LES_int_011437.7364[Right.]1438.3974
1310LES_se0_ag2_f_011439.1584you have to pull yourself up by your [bootstraps.]1441.3000
1311LES_int_011441.0303[Mm-hm.]1441.5371
1312LES_se0_ag2_f_011441.6129My- I'm working on a quote.1442.7806
1314 1442.8643I haven't refin- I haven't-1443.8249 
1316 1444.2564bare with me.1444.8160 
1318 1444.9614[The quote] is though.1445.8912 
1319LES_int_011444.9614[Alright.]1445.2372
1320 1446.9600Try um.1447.7752
1321LES_se0_ag2_f_011448.3158It's like, you know, we talk about this idea of, you know. I believe in that1451.6515
1323 1451.8145I- you know, I- I'm worried ab- here it is. I'm worried about the person who actually believes1455.6799 
1325 1456.1646that they can pull s- they can pull themselves up by their boot straps.1458.8733 
1327 1459.3888Because, they're not thinking about the person that1461.7483 
1329 1462.0876has to make1463.0879 
1331 1463.4140the boots.1464.0529 
1332LES_int_011464.0529<laugh>1465.1766
1333LES_se0_ag2_f_011465.6304Clean the boots.1467.0029
1335 1468.0429Sell the boot.1469.0475 
1336LES_int_011469.2414Yeah.1469.5984
1337LES_se0_ag2_f_011470.3783You know what I'm saying?1471.0621
1338LES_int_011471.1590Yeah.1471.5071
1339LES_se0_ag2_f_011471.8024There's a whole other bigger picture around that fucking boot.1474.1327
1340LES_int_011474.1327Yeah.1474.5690
1341LES_se0_ag2_f_011474.8655Okay. Here we go, pull our selves [up]1476.5960
1342LES_int_011476.4726[A lot-] a lot goes into the boot.1477.9355
1343LES_se0_ag2_f_011477.9355A lot goes into [the boot.]1479.0926
1344LES_int_011478.5524[<laugh>]1479.8532
1345LES_se0_ag2_f_011479.9325You know, and we never think about those things. Like, [you know.]1482.6873
1346LES_int_011482.3908[Right.]1482.7389
1347LES_se0_ag2_f_011482.8636So, you gonna make- okay. If everybody's pulling they own selves up by their bootstraps, does that mean they're gonna start making their own boots?1487.1133
1348LES_int_011487.1133Yeah.1487.5496
1349LES_se0_ag2_f_011487.9241Is that what we1488.5700
1351 1488.8344that's what that mean? You gonna make them shine their own boots?1491.0156 
1353 1491.3153If we're gonna pull ourselves up by our own boot straps,1493.3618 
1355 1493.6482because then everybody's living1495.0627 
1357 1495.2302equally, and nobody's doing the, you know, like come on.1497.7762 
1358LES_int_011497.9965[Yeah.]1498.4812
1359LES_se0_ag2_f_011498.1596[We know this] is gonna always be1499.5137
1360 1499.9059an unjust society. Everything- but does it have to be so hard? Does inequality have to be so hard?1504.7280
1361LES_int_011504.7676Yeah.1505.1378
1363 1505.4903Yeah.1505.8825 
1364LES_se0_ag2_f_011506.2130You know, I don't get- you know what I'm saying. I [just]1507.9512
1365LES_int_011507.8278[Yeah.]1508.2420
1366LES_se0_ag2_f_011508.3786I always think there's gonna be some type of /irocracy/ somewhere1511.2649
1368 1511.7849but1512.1085 
1370 1513.9681I mean, hierera- hierarchy. Like, you know, like boom, boom, boom, but1516.5759 
1372 1518.0873the end of the day,1518.9333 
1374 1521.6139g- does it have to be so hard?1523.1870 
1375LES_int_011523.5219[Yeah.]1523.9980
1376LES_se0_ag2_f_011523.8084[You know?1524.1344
1377 1524.2641But1524.4932
1379 1525.8901that's tha- the- when- when I came back from my neighborhood,1529.1277 
1381 1529.7182and I'm seeing like, damn. I gotta do community service, and this gentrification,1533.8126 
1383 1534.3502I wanna be up- I- I- I wanna fight this. And then [when I found-] when GOLES gave me the vehicle,1539.3977 
1384LES_int_011537.2774[Yeah.]1537.6564
1385LES_se0_ag2_f_011539.6224 I decided to be1540.6359
1387 1540.9179a part of the solution. Not the problem, not the complainer.1543.5163 
1388LES_int_011543.8318[Yeah.]1544.2346
1389LES_se0_ag2_f_011543.8865[And not] this person by myself.1546.0798
1390LES_int_011546.0710[Yeah.]1546.4588
1391LES_se0_ag2_f_011546.2913[You know.]1546.7672
1392LES_int_011546.7672Yeah.1547.0316
1393LES_se0_ag2_f_011547.1903I felt1547.7455
1395 1548.0187I felt like people had my back. I felt like GOLES was- /Froze/ was my gang.1551.1394 
1397 1551.2231I did.1551.5316 
1398LES_int_011551.6373Yeah.1552.0912
1399LES_se0_ag2_f_011552.1705And I used to do things off the strength of-1554.0565
1401 1554.5441Before I even worked there. That's why I think /RD-NAME-3/ hired me. Because I just- I would love my organization right?1558.4380 
1403 1558.9183And1559.3199 
1405 1559.5226I w- I would be like um1560.9654 
1407 1561.3399I would tell the- I would tell business owners.1563.2074 
1409 1563.5379Like, the- like uh. This business owner.1565.1652 
1411 1565.3155There was a crowd. It was all crazy in the front, and I was like, listen.1567.5403 
1413 1568.4393Um.1568.9722 
1415 1569.2322I'm a member of Good Old Lower East Side. I'm a member of Froze.1571.6558 
1417 1573.0167And we don't like this shit.1574.3519 
1419 1575.1759And1575.6870 
1421 1576.1674if you want people protesting in front of your business,1578.6614 
1423 1579.2937then keep this going.1580.2852 
1424LES_int_011580.6201Yeah.1581.0740
1425LES_se0_ag2_f_011581.2546And, actually, the guy's like, nah man.1582.8674
1427 1582.9467I feel y'all. I'm from the neighborhood too. He was a guy from the neighborhood [too.]1585.5362 
1428LES_int_011585.2541[<laugh>]1586.1986
1429LES_se0_ag2_f_011585.8545[And he was like] nah. I know they act all cra-1587.2910
1430 1587.4673I said, man, control this shit.1588.9611
1432 1589.3048Control this fucking1590.5637 
1434 1590.8281party on the block. Because I can't party on the block.1593.0534 
1436 1593.3839When I stand on the block, I- I deal with youth.1595.5487 
1438 1596.1625When we stand on the block and talk,1597.6828 
1440 1598.4098cops stop us and tell us to keep it moving.1600.4070 
1442 1601.3544Or, I seen kids get strip searched in front of fucking mad people.1604.8302 
1444 1605.1474Where cops pull down they pants.1606.7426 
1446 1609.8237Pulling they pants.1610.8857 
1448 1611.2778And you got six squad cars.1613.0105 
1450 1613.2484And I'm like what was that kid doing? Riding his bike on the sidewalk.1616.2140 
1451LES_int_011617.3866/inaudible/1618.3389
1452LES_se0_ag2_f_011618.6075You know.1619.0438
1454 1619.2421I've been harassed. I've had a cop pull a gun1621.2856 
1456 1622.3299<ts> out on me once.1623.1540 
1458 1623.6343They had their guns drawn1624.7667 
1459LES_int_011625.0532[Yeah.]1625.2294
1460LES_se0_ag2_f_011625.1193[Because] we was in the park playing basketball. We had beads of sweat coming down our heads.1628.5508
1461 1628.8549This is when I was younger.1629.7362
1463 1630.3751And we was like, yo.1631.6387 
1465 1632.4055But, and this is when they started enforcing all that shit.1634.6219 
1467 1634.8202All the parks gotta be closed.1636.3748 
1469 1636.6436That sign was always there, but nobody ever f- forced that shit.1639.5216 
1471 1639.7243Now, they enforcing it. No. The parks gotta be closed.1642.0862 
1473 1642.2844And now, I got a gun pointed at me.1644.0162 
1475 1646.3079Man.1646.7838