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1LES_se0_ag3_m_010.5120That's my wife. <laugh>1.3945
2LES_int_011.8818Awesome.2.1672
3LES_se0_ag3_m_013.3802<ts> [But.]3.9246
4LES_int_013.5646[/RD-NAME-3/'s ] mom.4.5831
5LES_se0_ag3_m_014.6226Yeah. /RD-NAME-3/ moms.6.0346
6LES_int_016.0346She's so cute.6.8249
7LES_se0_ag3_m_017.2595Thank you. <laugh>7.8961
8LES_int_018.3922Um.9.2396
10 10.7483Okay. So, we were talking about the community. So, we've got these new folks moving into the neighborhood, right?15.4239 
11LES_se0_ag3_m_0115.6303Uh-huh.15.9157
12LES_int_0115.9332That um,17.0644
14 17.5210have more money,18.5922 
16 19.0927here for the night life,20.6556 
18 20.9015you know,21.2659 
19LES_se0_ag3_m_0121.4239[Exactly.]22.1264
20LES_int_0121.4415[Some people] talk about gentrification.23.2810
21 24.3724So,24.8553
23 25.4348uh, are those folks part of the Lower East Side community?28.4367 
24LES_se0_ag3_m_0129.2620Um.29.6337
26 29.8093Anybody who's willing-30.9200 
28 31.0781who's willing to represent32.8957 
30 33.6289the Lower East Side,34.4235 
31LES_int_0134.5552[Yeah.]34.8537
32LES_se0_ag3_m_0134.7440[is] a part of it. We don't discriminate.36.3656
33LES_int_0136.7739Yeah.37.1619
34LES_se0_ag3_m_0137.1619We motivate.37.7809
35 38.6853[And]39.0558
36LES_int_0138.6853[So, if] you make an effort.39.7670
37LES_se0_ag3_m_0140.2631Oh, definitely.41.1192
38LES_int_0141.1192Then it's all good.41.9577
39LES_se0_ag3_m_0141.9577It's all good. But, don't come in here and act like you44.3943
40 44.9168like I said earlier. Don't come in here, look at me like I'm the outsider.48.0048
41LES_int_0148.1014Right.48.4087
42LES_se0_ag3_m_0148.8570And like- like I was telling 'em- another example, when I was telling them detectives who's53.0585
44 53.2023who pulled me over for no [apparently reason.]55.2394 
45LES_int_0154.6028[I can't believe that.]55.7882
46LES_se0_ag3_m_0156.2931I was telling them, like57.3248
48 58.8586Okay. I understand you said I fit the prescription.61.1679 
50 61.5630Okay. I heard it for thirty-nine years.63.2313 
51LES_int_0163.2313Yeah .63.6396
52LES_se0_ag3_m_0163.8723But,64.0918
54 64.6625this black man here,65.6985 
56 66.9937it's not the average black man. I'm tryna do something with myself. I tryna70.4532 
58 70.7298do something for the community.71.8888 
60 72.1303As we speak now, I'm trying to set this interview up as74.7930 
62 75.0827like, I had to use you and [everything] else. Like, she's right there, coming across the street.78.8042 
63LES_int_0176.4334[Yeah.]76.6529
64 79.2564[I wish I] had known those were the cops. I would have come over and81.6916
65LES_se0_ag3_m_0179.2827[That's why-]79.7481
66 81.8277[Like.]82.0692
67LES_int_0181.9331[given] them some shit. [I mean.]83.3160
68LES_se0_ag3_m_0183.0131[Like] that's why they was looking and84.8482
69 85.1540when I passed you the book, I had to let them know, listen. I have my-87.5687
71 87.8014my book in my- my /thay/.89.3292 
72LES_int_0188.7892[Yeah.]89.4609
73LES_se0_ag3_m_0190.0448I wanna know, can I pass it to her. And91.8652
75 92.8048like, you got the wrong Black man. This Black man here tryna put out a book96.1194 
76LES_int_0196.2907[Yeah.]96.7472
77LES_se0_ag3_m_0196.4619[speaking] about the community.97.8126
78 97.9530Tryna do murals to give back to the community.100.3589
79LES_int_01100.5170[Yeah.]101.0350
80LES_se0_ag3_m_01100.7628[I used] to say, I dream, I plan, I can.103.0370
81 103.7526And104.1390
83 105.0422that's what I've been doing all my life.106.6490 
84LES_int_01106.6490I like [that.]107.2286
85LES_se0_ag3_m_01107.0793[And]107.4744
86 108.0188everything I do, this is me from nineteen ninety-three. That's-110.9087
88 111.0426That's my old school jacket I had since nineteen ninety-three.113.8205 
89LES_int_01113.9874This one?114.4571
90LES_se0_ag3_m_01114.7118That one right there.115.6644
91LES_int_01115.8313That's amazing.116.5557
93 116.9947Did you do that?117.6664 
94LES_se0_ag3_m_01117.7630Uh. I design. I'm a visual designer.120.0064
95LES_int_01120.0064Okay.120.4674
96LES_se0_ag3_m_01120.7099A visual everything. I [have]122.2904
97LES_int_01121.8514[You come] up with the [concept .]123.1685
98LES_se0_ag3_m_01122.9885[I come] up with123.5329
99 123.6295everything and I bring I my own team to bring it to life.126.8876
100LES_int_01127.0193That's great.127.7475
101LES_se0_ag3_m_01128.4148[And]128.7353
102LES_int_01128.6036[Now,] what's- what's uh, the significance of Third D?131.0227
103LES_se0_ag3_m_01131.6968That's the heart132.3450
105 132.6425of the Lower East Side.133.4911 
106LES_int_01133.7010Okay.134.1206
107LES_se0_ag3_m_01134.5009Third Street and Avenue D is the heart136.3185
109 136.9068that's where.137.7146 
110LES_int_01137.8420Why that corner in particular?139.1020
111LES_se0_ag3_m_01139.1020That corner right there was the corner that141.0560
112 142.0598oh my God. It's just crazy.143.3945
113LES_int_01143.5350Why?143.9740
114LES_se0_ag3_m_01144.0223Um.144.4087
116 145.0057The biggest drug dealers, the biggest gun fights, um.147.9501 
118 149.4472D stand for dead.150.5096 
120 151.5809And152.0155 
121LES_int_01152.0759[Yeah.]152.5324
122LES_se0_ag3_m_01152.3261[i- it was] just like153.3929
123 155.2456the heart of the whole Lower East Side from Brooklyn Bridge to Third Avenue, or Fourteenth Street, from East to s-160.3043
125 160.4272from south to um, e- um, north.162.6344 
126LES_int_01163.3939Yeah.163.7803
127LES_se0_ag3_m_01163.9488Third Street is the heart.164.7944
129 165.1963[That's where um.]165.9821 
130LES_int_01165.3895[Right.]165.7450
131LES_se0_ag3_m_01166.7856That's where, [um,]167.4737
132LES_int_01167.1840[/inaudible/]168.3035
133LES_se0_ag3_m_01167.5791[everybody]168.2684
134 168.4528that's where everybody169.5767
136 170.5469who was doing171.7044 
138 171.8800the drugs in the172.9952 
140 173.1576early seventies, late seventies, eighties, and all that175.6294 
141LES_int_01175.8313[Yeah.]176.2001
142LES_se0_ag3_m_01176.0640[they] had to come from.177.1967
143 177.9657Where ever they was coming from,179.1554
145 179.2520they had to make it from B180.4989 
147 181.3506A, B, C [to get] to D.183.2296 
148LES_int_01182.3077[Yeah.]182.6632
149 183.9525[Okay.]184.3125
150LES_se0_ag3_m_01184.2335[Now,] once you get to D to make it back out,186.1740
151 186.6569it was serious187.4867
152LES_int_01187.6974Really?188.0706
153LES_se0_ag3_m_01188.0706in the eighties and all that, like wow.189.9569
154 190.2203You gotta go back through like f- three more a- [a- a- avenues to get out of it.]193.7457
155LES_int_01192.8589[<laugh>]193.8599
156LES_se0_ag3_m_01194.2111And you [just made it.]195.0540
157LES_int_01194.6501[Yeah.]195.0540
158LES_se0_ag3_m_01195.3043Like wow, we- we on Avenue D, it was something to talk about. Smashing Pumpkins,199.2549
160 199.9354he made it to Avenue D,201.1219 
162 201.2536and got murdered by um, a overdose.203.5168 
163LES_int_01203.5738Really?203.9602
164LES_se0_ag3_m_01204.0875One of the guys from [Smashing Pumpkins.]206.1992
165LES_int_01205.5670[I didn't know that.]206.2651
166LES_se0_ag3_m_01206.3968Yeah, it's in my book.207.4504
167LES_int_01207.7534Crazy.208.3768
168LES_se0_ag3_m_01208.3768Yeah. Um.209.3064
169LES_int_01209.6676Now, uh. I-210.8249
171 211.2156uh. At any point in your life, or- or- I mean.213.4168 
173 213.5441I know that there are214.4748 
175 214.5539gangs operating in the neighborhood. And were you involved with them? Or were they are strong presence? Is that.219.3469 
176LES_se0_ag3_m_01219.3865Of course it was gangs all- all my life. It was, um.222.3471
177LES_int_01222.3471Yeah.222.7554
178LES_se0_ag3_m_01223.0715A bunch of gangs. Um.224.3184
180 224.5115DDT.225.5175 
182 225.7897Um.226.2314 
184 226.4114Doing Damage Together.227.8427 
186 228.4633[Um.]228.9287 
187LES_int_01228.8277[Okay.]229.2525
188LES_se0_ag3_m_01230.1580Um.230.5224
190 231.0009HP. What it for? Um.232.5331 
192 232.6253Putting out heads.233.7086 
194 234.3583Um.234.8808 
196 234.9818Third Street Boys.236.0793 
198 236.8652Killer Hill.237.5808 
200 237.8662That's up by the Brooklyn [Bridge, Killer] Hill, and240.5711 
201LES_int_01239.4439[Yeah.]239.8215
202 241.3789Did you ever join one when you were young? [I mean, it's- just want protection] or something right?245.4317
203LES_se0_ag3_m_01242.7009[Um.]243.0653
205 243.2936[Again, um,]244.2419 
206 245.4844I di- I didn't have to join a gang, cause one,247.7146
208 248.0351when you popular,248.9395 
210 249.4005and you know half the world,250.6155 
212 251.0984you don't need to join a gang.252.2706 
213LES_int_01252.2706Okay.252.5999
214LES_se0_ag3_m_01252.7228And,253.2014
216 253.7910that's what made me.254.7722 
218 255.3224That's what separated me from256.6140 
220 256.7073/RD-NAME-2/,257.2985 
222 257.3964and got the industry name258.7346 
224 258.9025Big Shot.259.4621 
226 260.1226Cause all my life, I had the- I had the revenue.262.6500 
228 263.1582And all my life, I was giving back-264.9427 
230 265.1153[giving back. And]266.2483 
231LES_int_01265.1262[Got it.]265.6204
233 265.8069[Got it.]266.2483 
234LES_se0_ag3_m_01267.3721to investing and to268.7515
236 269.9871tryna put my own record out,271.4046 
238 271.6751to coming out with my own clothes,273.4396 
240 273.7660and just giving back to the community275.4517 
242 275.5123[all my life, and]276.7248 
243LES_int_01275.5123[Yeah.]275.8528
245 276.2539[Yeah.]276.7248 
246LES_se0_ag3_m_01277.9386eventually, something's gonna come out of it.279.5193
247LES_int_01279.5706Yeah, I'm sure it will.280.6104
248LES_se0_ag3_m_01280.6104It definitely is.281.5010
249LES_int_01281.5010So, uh282.7740
251 283.1645I always ask people, um285.0344 
253 285.2628to tell me a couple of places in the neighborhood,288.0279 
255 288.3031that are really meaningful to them.289.6924 
257 289.8416like places where you used to spend time. And you- think, maybe just- you t- you just told me one which was the294.2154 
258LES_se0_ag3_m_01294.4631[Third Street.]294.9770
259LES_int_01294.4631[Avenue D.]295.2428
260LES_se0_ag3_m_01295.2428That's- you see it right there. That's where297.2571
261 297.9379when I wanna go get a piece of mind and299.8473
263 300.5094just to reminisce, you can find me on Third Street and Avenue D, sitting down.303.9366 
265 304.9438Every- [any day.]305.9251 
266LES_int_01305.3422[Just- s-]305.9251
267LES_se0_ag3_m_01306.1303Any [day] of the week.306.9696
268LES_int_01306.2888[e-]306.4800
269LES_se0_ag3_m_01307.0908I don't care how many kids there now.308.8348
271 309.2311Like, it's a new generation coming up, call theyself Money Boys.312.0191 
273 312.6030[And.]313.1485 
274LES_int_01312.9061[What's] that?313.4889
275LES_se0_ag3_m_01314.1091Money Boys is315.0930
277 315.8017these kids316.6410 
279 316.8695mine- my- my godson,318.2684 
281 318.8756this kid right here in this picture.320.3771 
282LES_int_01320.3771Yeah.320.7361
283LES_se0_ag3_m_01321.9251His father322.7551
285 322.8764got murdered in nineteen ninety-three.324.6390 
287 325.3088Named /RD-NAME-2/.326.0921 
288LES_int_01326.4409Mm-hm.326.8186
289LES_se0_ag3_m_01326.9678/RD-NAME-2/ is in that picture with me up there.328.6838
291 328.8050That's the father.329.6443 
293 330.1803That's my godson. [That's his] son.331.6911 
294LES_int_01330.9124[/inaudible/]331.3896
295 331.7728He's your godson. Okay.332.8708
296LES_se0_ag3_m_01333.0760Now,333.5469
298 334.5410his son is coming up,335.7347 
300 335.9772at sixteen years old,337.1289 
301LES_int_01337.2921Yeah.337.6558
302LES_se0_ag3_m_01337.8983a- and it's called Money Boys and they be out there now. Money Boys341.1418
304 341.7107they wearing342.4241 
306 343.3520them kids wearing three hundred dollar jeans,345.3720 
307LES_int_01346.1181Jesus.346.7131
308LES_se0_ag3_m_01346.7196two hundred, three hundred sh- um, sneakers.348.8645
309LES_int_01348.9531Yeah.349.3868
310LES_se0_ag3_m_01349.6199They got the Ed Hardy and ef-351.4008
312 351.6060That name brand probably is too less for them, but [they got all kind of.]355.0439 
313LES_int_01353.8642[<laugh>]354.6709
314LES_se0_ag3_m_01355.7247And they call theyself Money Boys [cause]357.3876
315LES_int_01357.0568[Ho-] how do they g- do it?358.9686
316LES_se0_ag3_m_01359.5328They- they out there doing what they gotta do.361.3366
317LES_int_01361.3366They're [hustling.]362.1153
318LES_se0_ag3_m_01361.8728[Like.]362.1153
319 362.9872Sleeping in the rat hole, again.364.4188
321 364.9037You- e- this is my rat hole when you366.6437 
323 366.8443when somebody in the next room making whoopy,368.7001 
324LES_int_01369.0710[Yeah.]369.3694
325LES_se0_ag3_m_01369.2016[or] making love and you take the glass and put it in the wall,371.7289
326LES_int_01371.8965Yeah.372.3069
327LES_se0_ag3_m_01372.3069or when somebody outside that window hustling and you acting naive.376.4429
328LES_int_01376.6993Yeah.377.1096
329LES_se0_ag3_m_01377.6335That's sleeping in the rathole.378.7759
331 379.0044[Like.]379.3447 
332LES_int_01379.0044[Okay.]379.3447
333LES_se0_ag3_m_01379.5406However they getting it, they getting it. I don't know.381.7788
334LES_int_01381.9700[Okay.]382.3570
335LES_se0_ag3_m_01382.2031[I don't] be out there with them, and383.7455
336 384.3424the only thing I give to them is my advice.386.5278
338 387.0780All the time.387.8194 
340 388.1120[Like] all the time. The best I can give you is my advice, my advice, my advice, I can't do nothing else for [you but.]392.9216 
341LES_int_01388.1301[Right.]388.4565
343 392.7118[And] what's your advice for a kid coming up now who's sixteen.395.8366 
344LES_se0_ag3_m_01396.1832[Sixteen years old.]397.1764
345LES_int_01396.5982[On Avenue D.]397.4515
346LES_se0_ag3_m_01398.5240The advice I give to my sixteen year old godson, [/RD-NAME-4/]401.8020
347LES_int_01400.8461[Yeah.]401.1259
348LES_se0_ag3_m_01402.6553/RD-NAME-2/, you skreet smart,403.9224
350 404.6732and you're school smart.405.5545 
352 406.7575You sixteen.407.6434 
353LES_int_01407.7367Yeah.408.1051
354LES_se0_ag3_m_01408.4175You got three more years, to either make it past your father's due date of death,412.6769
356 413.5815or you ain't gonna make it.414.4441 
358 415.2849The only thing I can give you now, is my love.417.4578 
360 417.5557And,417.9567 
362 418.2738any time you wanna come uptown and talk to me and stay over,421.1656 
364 421.4920the door's always open for you.422.9090 
365LES_int_01423.0765Yeah.423.4355
366LES_se0_ag3_m_01423.5102Now423.9764
368 424.3215the financial part, like I used to give you money to all the kids and all that,427.8086 
370 428.7878I don't- ain't out there going backwards in life no more and everything else, like I'm struggling myself433.3228 
371LES_int_01433.4347[Sure, yeah.] Everybody [is.]435.1413
372LES_se0_ag3_m_01433.4906[to maintain.]434.2367
374 434.8196[So, it's like]435.4395 
375 435.5374the most I can give you is this, from somebody who-437.8549
377 438.0274who been through it all,439.1838 
379 439.5055and this and that,440.1369 
381 440.4540and never got more than three days in prison,442.5107 
383 443.1075f- no jail record at thirty-eight.444.8887 
384LES_int_01444.9913Yeah.445.3317
385LES_se0_ag3_m_01445.6488A- a- n- and that's kind of awkward for a Black man who was raised in Manhattan, in Lower East Side, Brooklyn, whatever.450.6923
386LES_int_01450.6923Yeah.451.0700
387LES_se0_ag3_m_01451.1259To be thirty-eight,451.9652
389 452.9668and the cops still tryna put him in, for no reason.455.3029 
391 455.4582Like, come on. I told them today,456.9363 
393 457.5658all you're doing is practicing.458.8341 
395 459.0906I'm thirty-eight and a half with no jail record,461.2250 
397 461.5934you can put my ID through the system all you want,463.9482 
399 464.0927[and] it's gonna come back up negative.465.6175 
400LES_int_01464.0927[Yeah.]464.4704
401LES_se0_ag3_m_01465.6921[I don't] have no record at all. I can go to sleep, and wake up in the morning468.8459
402LES_int_01465.6921[Yeah.]466.0901
403LES_se0_ag3_m_01469.1583and still be at peace.470.2215
404LES_int_01470.4127Right.470.7064
405LES_se0_ag3_m_01471.3021Now,471.6845
407 471.8710again, if they woulda pat me down, or- and went through my pockets, they would have definitely found like forty dollars and some good ass weed.477.5413 
408LES_int_01477.5413Yeah. [<laugh>]479.0707
409LES_se0_ag3_m_01478.4319[But,]478.7117
410 479.3553everybody [know,] since I was thirteen, that's my MO.482.9084
411LES_int_01480.2505[But.]480.4837
412 483.0262Yeah.483.6276
413LES_se0_ag3_m_01483.8032And it's not a downfall. It mo- i- it make me motivate.486.8633
415 487.2584I use it to my advantage.488.6370 
416LES_int_01490.2774Hi.491.0062
417LES_se0_ag3_m_01491.7218[That's my.]492.0994
418LES_int_01491.7218[It's a little] kitten.492.5331
419LES_se0_ag3_m_01492.5331Yeah, that's my kitten. It's called Midnight.494.2682
420LES_int_01494.4526So sweet. [I have a black] cat [too.]496.4617
421LES_se0_ag3_m_01495.0085[<laugh>]495.7197
423 496.0578[Yeah.] Midnight.496.9841 
424LES_int_01497.9461Really cute. Sorry, I'm distracted. I really like cats.500.2554
425LES_se0_ag3_m_01500.2115[Kay.]500.5144
426LES_int_01500.8612Um.501.3561
428 502.1592I wanna ask you your opinion about uh, housing in the neighborhood. I think I told you that some of the groups I'm working with are interested in508.9488 
430 509.5020you know, housing and,510.9497 
432 511.0858and what gets built in the neighborhood.512.7370 
434 513.0136And you obviously seen514.2429 
436 514.3746some of these514.8854 
438 515.9858big tall buildings going up, luxury.518.2073 
439LES_se0_ag3_m_01518.5673Again,519.1292
441 519.2785if you can afford it,520.2575 
443 520.6527I'm not mad at you.521.6624 
444LES_int_01521.7327Yeah.522.1366
445LES_se0_ag3_m_01522.3433Know what I'm saying, but just don't come down here524.3678
447 525.4006and look at the-526.0152 
449 526.4235the projects527.4201 
450LES_int_01527.6747Yeah.528.1192
451LES_se0_ag3_m_01528.8700and the mixed community530.1909
453 531.8768like we shit.532.6275 
454LES_int_01532.7565Yeah.533.1955
455LES_se0_ag3_m_01534.0428Know what I'm saying, cause everything is time for change.536.1666
456LES_int_01536.2061Right.536.6539
457LES_se0_ag3_m_01537.2898And537.8788
459 538.3047[Like,]538.6301 
460LES_int_01538.3582[/?/]538.6418
461LES_se0_ag3_m_01538.7794Now, big buildings is going up all over the world. It's just not just down here.542.1944
462LES_int_01543.1208Yeah.543.5554
463LES_se0_ag3_m_01543.7091Now, if you can afford it,545.1052
465 545.2307you gotta get in where you fit in.546.6048 
466LES_int_01546.9253Right.547.2634
468 548.0038So you said you were,548.8555 
470 548.9784uh, when I talked to you on the phone earlier, you said you were down by Delancey Street. So, have you seen553.4549 
471LES_se0_ag3_m_01553.8764[Yes.]554.3812
472LES_int_01553.8764[right]554.3812
473LES_se0_ag3_m_01554.7544[The- the blue one?]555.6341
474LES_int_01554.7544[right by the Williamsburg] bridge. No- No, not the blue building. Um.557.9083
475 558.5844<ts> You're right by the bridge on Delancey.560.3426
477 560.6148There's all these parking lots.561.8748 
478LES_se0_ag3_m_01562.3314[Uh-huh.]562.6519
479LES_int_01562.4456[They're] surrounded by fences. [Do you know what I'm talking about?]564.3290
480LES_se0_ag3_m_01563.6441[Yes.]563.9540
482 564.0989[Yes.] Across the street from- [on.]565.4007 
483LES_int_01565.2905[So,] that's a566.3431
484 566.4660lot that's owned by the city,567.7348
486 568.4460that people have been trying to develop for570.7245 
488 571.1284as long as you've lived here.572.3007 
490 572.3972Longer.572.8977 
492 573.3060The city bought it in like the sixties.574.9760 
494 575.3272And they haven't been able to build anything there because the community has been kind of divided579.9935 
496 580.3930over581.2711 
498 581.5872what to build there.582.5618 
500 582.9789and it's sort of about584.9046 
502 585.0670uh,585.6597 
504 585.9758some people wanna put up affordable housing,587.9415 
505LES_se0_ag3_m_01588.5254[That'd be nice.]589.2718
506LES_int_01588.6527[low income housing.]589.7441
507 589.8908Some people wanna put up591.0674
509 591.4757something different.592.1814 
511 592.2824Maybe like the blue building, [or maybe you know,] something for like the middle class, or whatever.597.2681 
512LES_se0_ag3_m_01593.7646[Exactly.]594.6910
513LES_int_01597.5491People597.9881
515 598.1637are598.4798 
517 599.1076conflicted about that.600.1349 
519 600.5893And so, I ask everybody that I interview,602.7186 
521 603.1181if you, you've seen those lots. It's a really big [space.]605.5663 
522LES_se0_ag3_m_01604.7557[Definitely.]605.0630
524 605.2957[The-] it is.606.0025 
525LES_int_01606.6259What do you think should be608.0116
527 608.2355built there? And it doesn't have to be housing. It could be housing plus, you know, other things. Some people maybe want a613.3518 
529 613.6855Home Depot, some people want615.6106 
531 615.7467you know, [a movie] theater.616.9760 
532LES_se0_ag3_m_01616.1049[I-]616.2936
533 617.0682I [think]617.8014
534LES_int_01617.3623[If it were] up to you, what would you build on a lot on the Lower East Side?620.8701
535 622.5033What does [the community need?]623.4692
536LES_se0_ag3_m_01622.9292[I- I'd build]623.8336
537 625.6665a big r- a recreation627.5412
539 627.7019community center628.8215 
541 629.1579for the youth.630.0535 
542LES_int_01630.2949Yeah.630.6110
543LES_se0_ag3_m_01631.3398Like, I think that's what they need to invest they money in. Something to keep the kids off the streets.635.6983
544LES_int_01635.8300[Right.]636.2910
545LES_se0_ag3_m_01636.0275[And that] space it so s-637.1734
546 637.5378it's spacious. [I mean, and.]638.7402
547LES_int_01638.3714[Yeah.]638.7402
548LES_se0_ag3_m_01639.8948And put computers in there.641.1548
550 641.5060Put something642.0082 
552 642.2365you gotta have- you gotta trick the kids these days. [You gotta.]644.7565 
553LES_int_01644.4053[<laugh>]644.7565
554LES_se0_ag3_m_01645.3759Like, y- y- [you.]646.5378
555LES_int_01646.2041[Get 'em] playing a game [or. <laugh>]647.7056
556LES_se0_ag3_m_01647.2314[Yeah.] You gotta get 'em in there. By all means necessary, you just can't build a building, and be like okay, this is for the youth.652.6491
557LES_int_01652.7906Right.653.1418
558LES_se0_ag3_m_01653.6292You gotta target them.654.5511
560 654.6740Know what I'm saying, you gotta655.4423 
562 655.9253it's-656.1404 
564 656.5048it gotta be open at a certain time.658.4008 
566 658.7965[If] not,659.2531 
567LES_int_01658.7965[Right.]659.0476
568LES_se0_ag3_m_01659.6702they gonna be back on the corners.660.9302
570 661.1804You gotta have computers in there I think they should have a663.3168 
572 663.5890a video room in there.664.8710 
573LES_int_01665.1739Okay.665.5734
574LES_se0_ag3_m_01665.6217I think they should have something would hold, at least667.4964
576 667.6105twenty to thirty kids.669.0796 
578 669.1586Another, uh, another big space in there,671.1694 
580 672.0474with a- with a, uh, a big movie theater. Not a- not even a movie theater. Just a projector, we got a wall, and we could show uh- a- all movies.679.3122 
581LES_int_01679.3912Yeah.679.6766
582LES_se0_ag3_m_01679.7293Or rent movies, and show movies. Somewhere they can be there from-682.6576
584 683.0439from six to eight.684.2776 
585LES_int_01684.6727Right.685.0679
586LES_se0_ag3_m_01685.3181Know what I'm saying, and686.1786
588 687.2608I think j- that's one good way to give back to the community [because]689.9345 
589LES_int_01689.5569[Yeah.]689.9345
590LES_se0_ag3_m_01690.0486No lie,690.6100
592 691.7882we got a lot of, lot of people693.6278 
594 693.9131down here694.5453 
596 695.2434who's struggling, trying to make ends meet, by going to work698.0060 
598 698.6865and everything else, but699.6479 
600 699.8356by the time, the end of the forty hours,701.9210 
602 702.6893you don't got nothing.703.4427 
604 703.7325[Cause the]704.1320 
605LES_int_01703.7325[Yeah.]704.1320
606LES_se0_ag3_m_01704.3120I think it should be a free place.705.9276
608 706.3667Government ran.707.4818 
610 708.1299But have enough people, uh, staff in there710.3426 
612 710.9265to take on the babysitting jobs and all that, cause that's-713.9081 
614 714.2637that's- that's crucial right now. That's a lot of money coming out from one check717.8082 
616 718.2429the rent,718.7390 
617LES_int_01719.0902Right.719.4502
618LES_se0_ag3_m_01719.6829the food.720.2800
620 720.7804And then you gotta work again next week, like, I'm really, really broke.723.8010 
621LES_int_01723.9590Yeah.724.4551
622LES_se0_ag3_m_01724.7712[So, I] think they should staff it726.1508
623LES_int_01724.7712[Yeah.]725.1631
624 726.5855Yeah.726.8796
625LES_se0_ag3_m_01726.9499and have it free727.9289
627 728.8816for nine to five people. Nine to six.731.1678 
628LES_int_01731.1678Right.731.5893
629LES_se0_ag3_m_01731.9729Yeah. I- it's- it's a good deed. I don't know how it's gonna lose, they gonna lose out, they gonna say they losing out cause they ain't making no income, they gotta pay these people.739.1362
630LES_int_01739.6147[Right.]739.9396
631LES_se0_ag3_m_01739.7332[But,] it's some way.740.9971
632 741.4405Like, even if we gotta pay ten dollars a child, or743.9490
634 744.2300something.744.7568 
636 746.1090It don't have to be free. Everything don't have to be free. But, long as we pay like a l-749.5718 
638 749.9741twenty dollars a child, and751.3252 
640 751.5666and if it's big enough, twenty dollars time whatever, whatever,754.3720 
642 754.8154should add up to something to pay756.6912 
644 757.1873somebody.757.8546 
646 757.9984Meaning, you [might get]758.7623 
647LES_int_01758.4637[Yeah.]758.7623
648LES_se0_ag3_m_01759.0433and it's a lot of people out there, believe me, who work761.3043
650 761.4535who wanna do those things like that free.763.2815 
651LES_int_01763.9313[Yeah.]764.2166
652LES_se0_ag3_m_01763.9708[Who would] help out, oh don't worry, and765.8586
653 766.9430it's called giving back.767.9176
655 768.0976[And that's-] that's why I look at that. So, the only thing that comes off the head is uh,771.6548 
656LES_int_01768.2601[Yeah.]768.6156
657LES_se0_ag3_m_01772.7129a big773.2139
659 773.3456big recreation center [like] for- for-775.8832 
660LES_int_01774.7110[Yeah.]775.0579
661LES_se0_ag3_m_01776.0325for all people. Not just777.5180
663 777.8254the people living in projects. For whoever got- whoever gotta go to work,781.0747 
665 781.5928[and don't-] can't afford a782.8396 
666LES_int_01781.6454[Yeah.]781.9966
667LES_se0_ag3_m_01782.9362a- you gotta fill out the form and all that, but whoever can't afford785.5709
668LES_int_01785.6938Yeah.786.0099
669LES_se0_ag3_m_01786.2426two hundred dollars a week a hundred and fifty dollars a week,788.6002
670LES_int_01788.8241Yeah.789.1973
671LES_se0_ag3_m_01789.6626if you paying one fifty a week, okay. Give me seventy-five dollars.792.3884
672LES_int_01792.5509Yeah.792.8450
673LES_se0_ag3_m_01793.1348Kay, okay, that's the best I can do for this family.795.1142
674LES_int_01795.1845Yeah.795.5840
675LES_se0_ag3_m_01795.8123We go through your paperwork. Everything going through the paperwork, and you paying two twenty-five,799.7267
677 800.1482give me one.800.7629 
679 800.9824One fifteen.801.7358 
680LES_int_01801.8061Right.802.1880
682 802.3417Right.802.7017 
684 803.3646And what about housing? Do you think that there's also a need for housing in the neighborhood?807.0920 
685LES_se0_ag3_m_01807.4827Um. It's always need for housing.809.0050
686LES_int_01809.0050Yeah.809.3870
687LES_se0_ag3_m_01809.7821Cause they came up with the Zillow811.2748
689 811.5053Zero812.1989 
691 812.3350Tolerance812.9541 
693 813.7180like,813.9814 
695 815.0800you can get kicked out of housing for anything.816.7747 
696LES_int_01817.2878[Mm-hm.]817.8234
697LES_se0_ag3_m_01817.3888[For anything.]818.0561
698 818.5390Right now, if I woulda got stopped,819.7376
700 819.8781for a back of trees or anything, they woulda made that into oh, he killed five people,823.9259 
702 824.2025[and this, and this] and that, he must go.825.9767 
703LES_int_01824.2025[<laugh>]825.1206
704 826.0381Right.826.5562
706 827.4869Right.827.7772 
707LES_se0_ag3_m_01827.7772That's cause this is prime ti- this is prime real estate right here.830.8949
708LES_int_01831.0793Yeah.831.4876
709LES_se0_ag3_m_01831.5402This property down on the Lower East Side,833.1471
711 833.6328it's ridiculous.834.6403 
712LES_int_01834.6625I know.835.1470
713LES_se0_ag3_m_01835.7960That's why, and they-836.5641
715 837.2259they been knew.837.9877 
717 838.7985And that's what it is right now. They know how- they know what this is worth.842.0205 
719 842.4104They- they already changing a East River up to Battery Park City. They tryna make it look like Battery- give us sand. Now we getting sand across the street from the projects now. And.850.1514 
721 850.9874Meanwhile that was down at Battery Park City, /re/ since I was born.853.9663 
722LES_int_01854.0884Yeah.854.5729
723LES_se0_ag3_m_01854.6832Now they tryna expand it855.9436
725 856.1602more this way857.0354 
726LES_int_01857.0465Right.857.4679
727LES_se0_ag3_m_01857.5231cause they know already.858.4448
728LES_int_01858.7087Yeah.859.0744
729LES_se0_ag3_m_01859.0789They know.859.5437
731 859.7738Like damn, if we get rid of this /RD-NAME-1/ family862.1883 
733 862.6531and get another863.5196 
735 863.7954a working family in there,865.1700 
737 865.4497and they probably started paying whatever they paying now. They probably pay fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, two thousand dollars a month.871.2527 
739 871.4221[Easy.]871.7963 
740LES_int_01871.4851[Yeah.]871.8751
741 872.2171Yeah.872.6307
742LES_se0_ag3_m_01873.3830Now if it's two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a kitchen, and a li- No, if you f- forget about it. Thirty eight hundred, easy.877.4991
743LES_int_01877.7748<laugh>878.0978
745 878.9253Seriously.879.5319 
746LES_se0_ag3_m_01879.6737So that's what it is, [and]881.0900
747LES_int_01880.7372[Yeah.]881.1468
748LES_se0_ag3_m_01881.2847they know already, so they tryna get882.6948
750 883.1872everybody out.883.8213 
751LES_int_01884.0901Yeah.884.5431
752LES_se0_ag3_m_01884.7321And884.9921
754 885.3742they tryna buy these, hut, they's trying to buy these something called hut,888.0841 
756 888.9518tryna buy these projects, I heard [um,]890.8346 
757LES_int_01890.7006[I've] heard that.891.4136
758LES_se0_ag3_m_01891.7090also I heard, um, what's his name?893.6390
760 894.5244Mr. New York,895.3270 
762 895.4688um.895.8824 
764 900.1493Donald Trump.900.7519 
765LES_int_01900.9922Donald Trump.901.5988
766LES_se0_ag3_m_01901.6500He own-902.2408
768 902.5244that's why I call him Mr. New York, [he own everything.]904.6790 
769LES_int_01903.8006[<laugh>]905.0302
770LES_se0_ag3_m_01905.1094He got a- he tryna put a finger in these projects and things like that cause [this is] prime sapce.909.9188
771LES_int_01908.5402[Yeah.]908.9701
772LES_se0_ag3_m_01910.3875So when you get a Donald Trump looking at a Lillian Wald Projects913.8784
774 914.3511what's the outcome?915.2098 
776 915.9897Money.916.4899 
777LES_int_01916.7076Yeah.917.1252
778LES_se0_ag3_m_01917.3497Money.917.8460
779LES_int_01918.0319Yeah.918.3706
780LES_se0_ag3_m_01918.6621Or you can stay there if you can afford it.920.3361
781LES_int_01920.5252Yeah.920.9663
782LES_se0_ag3_m_01921.2657If not, we gonna give you twenty thousand dollars and923.4804
784 923.8073lot- honestly speaking924.9575 
786 925.4144you got people like sis- sister /RD-NAME-1/ and other- all the928.4670 
788 928.7606elderly ladies was looking at930.2889 
790 930.7339twenty thousand like it's a- it's a- it's a- it's w- it's money.933.9678 
791LES_int_01934.1450Yeah,934.5034
792LES_se0_ag3_m_01934.6019[Sorry.]935.0273
793LES_int_01934.6059[Yeah.]934.9912
794LES_se0_ag3_m_01935.5090But it's really not.936.4228
795LES_int_01936.5725Yeah.936.9230
796LES_se0_ag3_m_01937.1003How far twenty thousand938.2859
798 938.4513gonna take you?939.0978 
799LES_int_01939.2824Right.939.7196
800LES_se0_ag3_m_01940.4759So it's like, they tricking- they tricking the elderly people, all that, by coming through with a945.1367
802 945.9874I'm gonna give you all this money. This is twenty three thousand dollars.948.9703 
804 949.3878And we gonna help you find a place. [Meanwhile] the place they finding you is they952.6177 
805LES_int_01950.7152[Yeah.]951.2502
806LES_se0_ag3_m_01952.7555uncles.953.3908
808 953.9642And by the time they get they money over there, the rent and all that. It's a changed game. It's all about [who you know.]958.7274 
809LES_int_01958.0657[Yeah.]958.7038
810 958.9835Yeah.959.5822