Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	0.8963	Yeah, my autistic retarded son	2.9173
3		4.3821	has a teacher that's dying of cancer.	6.6036
5		7.0067	<ts> And the man is younger than me.	8.7058
6	LES_int_01	9.3906	Oh. I'm so [sorry.]	10.4660
7	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	10.2885	[The] man is around	11.1402
8		11.8777	I would say	12.5056
10		15.8954	maybe,	16.5100
12		16.7515	thirties	17.3398
13	LES_int_01	17.6032	Oh.	18.3539
14	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	19.1442	I got a picture of him over there,	20.4437
15	LES_int_01	20.9913	That's awful.	21.7160
16	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	21.9144	and he worked with these kids.	23.3835
18		23.5898	He was their head teacher,	24.6611
20		25.2845	my son's group.	26.0484
22		27.0585	And he's the only one that could do anything with him.	28.7153
24		29.9138	In some of the cases.	31.0773
25	LES_int_01	31.1782	Oh, that's terrible.	32.2216
26	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	32.8626	Three k- and he wasn't sick.	34.5046
28		36.3353	No, he wasn't [sick.]	37.3714
29	LES_int_01	37.2485	[And] then all of a sudden,	38.2743
30	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	41.4221	No symptoms.	42.1377
32		42.5856	No pain,	43.5119
34		43.8851	no loss of appetite, no loss of weight,	46.5221
36		47.1982	no loss of anything.	48.3177
38		50.4455	He had a blood clot in his foot and his foot swolled up, so that's what got them to looking.	54.4319
40		55.2880	And then, and then, he started passing blood through his stool.	58.0787
42		58.4650	And they started looking at that.	59.7075
44		59.9929	And the colon was clean.	61.1519
46		62.0431	Then they looked a little further in.	63.2050
47	LES_int_01	65.2948	What kind of cancer was it?	66.5856
48	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	66.7536	Pancreatic [cancer.]	68.1953
49	LES_int_01	67.6700	[Ah.] That's one of the worst kinds.	69.7829
50	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	70.3317	And it spread to his spleen and his liver.	72.0571
52		74.1864	How long has he got?	75.0014
54		76.6917	Not long.	77.3590
55	LES_int_01	77.9693	That's a- it's a	78.5663
57		78.9351	a nasty can- cancer I think.	80.7549
58	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	81.0666	Why is it nasty?	82.2388
59	LES_int_01	82.2388	I just think there's some that are	83.7563
61		84.1383	harder to fight than others.	85.5871
62	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	86.2105	Are they all so sneaky?	87.5451
63	LES_int_01	88.9895	No, I think this one is particularly sneaky.	91.2885
64	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	92.1490	[You kn-]	92.3685
65	LES_int_01	92.1490	[I don't] that much about it.	93.1281
66	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	93.2466	But,	93.4749
68		93.6066	he- [you think he has a.]	94.7744
69	LES_int_01	93.8086	[I know someone else that] passed away from it, and they- I just	96.4685
70		96.7381	[/inaudible/]	97.6293
71	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	96.9225	[How long did] they last?	98.1781
72	LES_int_01	100.4288	I think a ye- at least a year.	102.1366
73	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	102.5186	With stage four?	103.4976
74	LES_int_01	105.2845	<ts> I don't remember.	106.2284
75	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	106.6806	[Well he's.]	107.1181
76	LES_int_01	106.7888	[Might have] progressed. They might have caught it earlier, and then it progressed to stage four.	110.3054
77	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	111.0211	Well, he got his first chemo treatment the other day.	113.2277
78	LES_int_01	113.3799	Okay.	113.7750
80		114.5652	That's good.	115.1140
81	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	115.8033	But,	116.0755
83		116.1677	it's stage four	116.8965
85		117.2214	already and it's m- m- metastasized	119.4911
87		120.1350	to his spleen [and to his liver.]	121.7989
88	LES_int_01	121.0848	[That's terrible.]	122.0535
89		122.2467	Especially for someone so young.	123.8843
90	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	124.2004	He is young.	124.8282
92		125.0653	I'm'a show you his picture before you leave. He's young, he's not a old man.	127.9613
93	LES_int_01	128.0623	Oh.	128.6067
94	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	129.4497	Eh.	129.7394
95	LES_int_01	131.0521	<ts> I'm sorry.	131.8101
96	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	132.4291	Oh, I'm worried about my son now.	133.8604
97	LES_int_01	134.0931	Yeah.	134.7472
98	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	135.1511	Cause, /RD-NAME-1/ was with him all these years.	137.0609
99	LES_int_01	137.0609	[Yeah.]	137.3243
100	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	137.2145	[The] whole group was.	138.2634
101		138.3951	It's a group of them.	139.1985
102	LES_int_01	139.2600	What does your- yeah. What does-	140.2347
104		140.3664	kind of program does your son do?	141.9545
105	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	141.9545	Y-A-I, Young Adult Institute. Have you ever heard of it?	144.5960
106	LES_int_01	144.6750	I have, yeah.	145.4126
107	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	145.5135	Mm-hm.	145.9174
109		146.0228	He's in their day, uh, day rehab.	147.9984
110	LES_int_01	148.3760	Oh, that's great.	149.1614
111	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	149.2141	On Thirteenth Street.	150.0834
112	LES_int_01	150.2590	Oh. [Yeah.]	150.5971
113	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	150.4829	[He] goes out to work	151.4751
114	LES_int_01	152.0107	Yeah.	152.2566
115	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	152.9810	And [uh.]	153.8415
116	LES_int_01	153.6834	[That's] wonderful.	154.4458
117	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	154.6083	You know.	154.9507
119		155.2018	Volunteer sites.	156.2897
120	LES_int_01	156.3863	Yeah.	156.7902
121	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	157.3522	And um,	157.9273
123		158.9590	/RD-NAME-1/ was the head teacher of his unit.	160.9244
124	LES_int_01	161.2800	Okay.	161.5917
125	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	161.9166	And	162.3424
127		162.5049	it was fourteen of them in the class, and they held him down.	164.9722
129		165.4200	Him and two other teachers. It's	166.9200
131		167.6619	three of them in there. <laugh>	169.1459
133		170.3268	Yeah they st- k- they got the, they kept the group.	172.3449
135		173.8815	Mm-hm.	174.2530
136	LES_int_01	174.3337	Yeah,	174.7332
138		174.9878	I'm sorry, that's really sad.	176.4059
139	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	177.1566	Now,	177.7976
141		178.4941	the- one teacher	179.5522
143		180.7200	that was in there,	181.8571
145		182.2786	/RD-NAME-3/ she made head teacher, so they moved her to her own room.	185.2975
147		186.0966	And now this happened, and he's not coming back, so there's only one teacher left.	188.9371
149		189.6132	And she's a Brazilian.	190.6346
151		192.6673	Cause they got a	193.5981
153		193.9932	Hungarian.	194.9415
155		195.2620	Are you ready for this?	195.8415
157		196.3492	A Hungarian volunteer, that doesn't speak too good English in there.	199.3566
158	LES_int_01	199.8088	Oh.	200.4234
159	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	200.6868	And they said my son loves her.	202.0259
160	LES_int_01	202.7575	Oh. [<laugh>]	203.7854
161	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	203.6005	[He] was holding her hand, and then he grabbed a chair and pulled her next to him. Oh [ lord Jesus, I wouldn't wanna.]	208.3469
162	LES_int_01	207.6401	[Oh, that's]	208.9703
163	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	208.8606	[Oh] see, now, but that- that- that behavior has to be addressed though.	211.6118
164	LES_int_01	211.6557	Oh, really?	212.4459
165	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	212.7357	Yeah, because, what happens when she doesn't find it amusing anymore?	216.0811
166	LES_int_01	218.5293	Yeah.	219.0035
167	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	220.1256	<ts>	220.2674
168	LES_int_01	220.5796	Or, she can't pay attention to him, and then he	222.4455
169	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	222.7133	[Yeah.]	223.3455
170	LES_int_01	223.0601	[gets] upset or [something.]	224.2197
171	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	223.9914	[Mm.]	224.6411
172	LES_int_01	224.5078	[Yeah.]	225.0114
173		225.4619	[And now] how old is he now?	226.8712
174	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	225.4663	[Mm.]	225.8176
175		226.9854	Thirty-eight.	227.3938
176	LES_int_01	227.0837	[/??/] thirty-eight. Wow.	228.6379
177	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	228.9743	I got a picture of him too.	229.9105
178	LES_int_01	230.2936	Wow.	230.8726
179	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	231.4593	Yeah.	232.1091
180	LES_int_01	232.4998	Well, so get back to your story. You were- I was asking you what vertical policing was.	236.9911
181	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	237.1535	Oh, vertical patrol.	238.1706
182	LES_int_01	238.2628	Patrol.	238.7808
184		239.0125	[Yeah, what is that?]	239.7214
185	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	239.1419	[Okay, re- ve- ve- reger- vertical patrol is done when the crime is inside, not outside and not visible to the, uh,	245.5210
186	LES_int_01	245.7537	Not on the [street.]	246.6097
187	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	246.3507	[street.]	246.6536
188		246.8161	And.	247.3078
190		247.4044	The police have to go into a building or another area, and what they will do	251.2810
192		251.7317	they will	252.1312
194		252.2717	patrol	252.8776
196		253.2156	check	253.5273
198		253.6239	every d- staircases, of [the co-]	255.7268
199	LES_int_01	255.4151	[They] go up and down.	256.4073
200	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	256.4073	Down, [right the] hallways	258.3775
201	LES_int_01	257.0209	[/inaudible/]	257.6355
202	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	258.5004	the doors, any doors that are open that may-	260.5669
204		261.6294	And the reason why they're doing that is to catch anybody using drugs,	265.3973
206		265.7617	or drug sale,	266.9597
208		267.2451	or anyone trespassing in your building.	269.0231
209	LES_int_01	269.3700	Right.	269.7563
211		270.1427	Right.	270.4324
212	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	270.6871	See?	270.9329
213	LES_int_01	271.2271	Yeah.	271.6378
214	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	271.9606	A lot of the stuff that the DA's office now uses like the Trespass affidavit program	276.5688
216		277.0298	that they rely on,	278.2283
218		278.5839	came from this case.	279.7912
219	LES_int_01	280.2478	[Yeah.]	280.5552
220	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	280.3005	[The-] the strategy that that man, that I showed you	283.1685
221		283.6272	developed.	284.1541
223		284.6897	He developed	285.1375
225		285.2429	alright,	285.5326
227		285.6511	the vertical patrol was always	287.3590
229		287.5917	a given.	288.0658
231		288.4000	But, it wasn't used very widely cause it's dangerous.	290.8673
233		291.3371	And the captain had to okay it.	292.7687
235		293.6643	And he said to the captain,	295.1314
237		295.2411	I wanna do some other creative stuff,	297.1092
239		297.9258	in /RD-ADDRESS-5/ and I really would like to work with the tenants there. Uh-	302.0548
241		302.7660	Cause there are some tenants that don't want this.	304.6319
243		305.0621	fine.	305.3256
245		306.0176	So, the captain gave him a free hand.	307.3039
247		307.6595	He developed	308.1995
249		308.3269	a little strategy called, um,	310.2371
251		311.2820	Inquiry plus escort.	312.7747
253		314.4942	This became	315.5523
255		316.1098	this is what the DA's office use right now.	318.4411
257		320.4635	When	320.9771
259		321.8771	they want to	322.7903
261		322.9132	slow down	323.6815
263		323.8264	or interrupt as they say, the marketplace.	325.7961
265		326.7181	This guy here, /RD-NAME-5/, standing in the front of the door	329.8615
267		330.3489	in the front of the lobby.	331.1771
269		331.6205	by	331.9147
271		332.0596	where-	332.5688
273		332.6610	where the bells are	333.5040
275		334.2240	and as people come in, he would say, hello, how are you?	336.6474
277		337.9542	And how can I help you? And where are you going?	339.9474
279		341.3874	And if they would tell him they were going to the drug floor to see the drug dealer,	344.8235
281		345.2230	he said, just one minute.	346.0571
283		347.5191	Are you going the same place?	348.7572
285		349.1244	He said, well you see,	349.9542
287		350.1166	these two gentlemen here, they're gonna escort you to the door because you see, uh, this building is not safe, and we don't want anything to happen to you.	356.3168
288	LES_int_01	356.5451	[<laugh>]	357.7568
289	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	357.4539	[And] they're gonna make sure the drug dea- they'll make sure the man lets you in, and make sure he's home and he'll let you in. You don't mind do you?	363.0273
290	LES_int_01	363.2117	<laugh>	364.2083
292		364.9530	[Then they turn] tail and (laughing)	366.4501
293	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	365.0803	[No.]	365.6950
294	LES_int_01	367.3501	went somewhere else?	368.3225
295	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	368.5025	Well,	368.8977
297		369.1962	some of them.	369.8855
299		371.2728	You know.	371.6439
301		371.9424	He just didn't open the door th- when they got up there, but	374.4405
303		374.6951	after a while, they would see him standing in the front	377.3375
305		377.4648	and not even come in the building.	378.8560
306	LES_int_01	379.0316	Right.	379.3784
308		380.2257	Incredible. [That's really smart.]	381.6043
309	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	380.9018	[So that shut-] that shut down the tra-	383.1257
310		383.2222	that shut	383.7599
312		383.8565	down the um,	385.1198
314		386.6871	traffic.	387.1042
315	LES_int_01	387.2579	Yeah.	387.6672
316	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	388.0009	Immediately.	388.7434
318		389.6832	[So.]	390.0679
319	LES_int_01	389.7518	[I-]	389.9845
320		390.1425	but now, I'm wondering how, I mean.	391.9996
321	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	392.0611	[Wait a minute.]	392.5572
322	LES_int_01	392.0781	[Is.]	392.3371
323		392.5786	[Yeah.]	393.0314
324	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	392.7284	[This is] some	393.8523
325		395.2441	Let me connect it.	396.0322
327		396.6557	That was	397.4503
329		398.4425	a police- this was a program reaching out to the community.	401.0196
330	LES_int_01	401.2259	Yeah.	401.5596
331	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	401.8757	Because, the woman that trained me also trained them and suggested that we meet.	405.7909
333		407.0245	See, the Lower East Side was right for that because of the fact, it was a-	410.5001
335		410.6055	a- a-	410.9567
337		411.1806	a lesson	411.7250
339		412.0806	that this is a place	413.1080
341		413.5206	that	413.7913
343		414.5245	nurtures	415.3543
345		415.6660	advocacy,	416.3948
347		416.7943	nurtures	417.5450
349		417.6899	organization	418.7128
350	LES_int_01	418.7128	Yeah.	419.0641
351	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	419.2353	nurtures	420.0855
353		420.2216	people changing their situation	422.3289
354	LES_int_01	422.5309	[Yeah.]	422.8074
355	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	422.6626	[for] the better.	423.2289
356		424.3089	As a result,	424.9323
358		425.2002	the building was cleaned up,	426.2435
360		426.7001	the people learned a	428.1182
362		428.6318	new	429.1235
364		429.4353	respect for the police department, they don't have the attitudes they had when they first moved in this building.	433.9513
366		435.1674	And, we haven't had that	436.4670
368		436.6162	kind of drug dealing	437.5338
370		438.1206	ever again.	438.7572
371	LES_int_01	438.7572	Incredible.	439.5343
372	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	440.8206	So, I went on to tell my story to all over New York and then	444.3927
374		444.6122	all over the si- states	446.3288
376		446.8804	and then all. Then people from all over the world came in to talk about it.	450.3751
377	LES_int_01	450.8536	Incredible.	451.5429
378	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	451.7405	I did	452.1663
380		452.5775	England three times, Paris three times, /even in/ South Africa.	456.2609
382		457.0336	Uh.	457.4068
383	LES_int_01	457.6307	Wow.	458.3946
384	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	458.6609	Australia, Melbourne	460.0642
385	LES_int_01	460.4549	Wonderful.	461.3198
387		461.5832	That's [wonderful.]	462.3954
388	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	461.7676	[Hm.]	461.9476
389		462.4393	All these different police.	463.6817
390	LES_int_01	464.9315	They wanted to learn from the model that you guys had created.	468.0661
391	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	468.0661	That's correct.	468.5710
392		469.1900	<ts> So,	469.7300
394		470.1647	I will say to you.	471.1202
396		473.0651	The first lesson	473.8817
398		474.1715	we learned,	474.8256
400		475.1154	thank God I learned it,	476.1252
402		477.0961	is how do you live in a nei- in a building	479.6293
404		479.8532	in a city	480.6786
406		480.8674	in a neighborhood with people different races, creeds, and color?	483.6524
408		484.7281	Without killing each other.	485.7729
410		486.1637	Why is that important? It's important because when tragedy hits,	489.0535
412		490.3136	if this bond had not	491.3436
414		491.5807	been	491.8397
416		491.9758	m- been	492.4719
418		492.8539	been created, when tragedy hit as of Nine Eleven,	495.3958
420		495.7011	and we saw what real hate was.	497.1718
421	LES_int_01	497.2947	Mm.	497.7865
422	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	498.5855	Or, when the lights went out	499.7884
424		500.3416	and we saw how much we really needed one another, we were all there in the backyard with the barbecue going, and everybody took	505.6571
426		505.8492	food out of their refrigerator because they didn't want it to spoil, and that's how we ate.	508.8901
428		509.2501	Cause lights didn't come on here til almost three days.	511.5067
430		513.6755	Or, it could be something as simple as your landlord writing you a letter telling you that in less than a year,	518.2267
432		519.4780	you are not going to be subsidized anymore, the contract is up.	522.4004
434		523.9282	Tra-	524.2618
436		524.9019	That happened in two thousand and four, and there's a good chance the person you reach out to	529.0287
438		531.2048	and person that you	533.0004
440		534.1024	or extend a helping hand to will look very different than you.	536.6428
442		536.8843	They will either be a different race,	538.2804
444		538.3989	a different religion, or a different sexual orientation.	541.0814
445	LES_int_01	541.2000	Yeah.	541.6214
446	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	541.6961	Or a combination of both.	542.8739
447	LES_int_01	543.0319	Yeah.	543.4271
448	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	543.7958	And unfortunately,	544.7090
450		544.9724	you're gonna have to work very closely with them, a bond will have to be created	548.2909
452		548.9567	if you're gonna be successful	550.3836
453	LES_int_01	550.7085	Mm-hm.	551.1343
454	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	551.3977	in keeping a roof over your head	552.9124
456		553.3821	or getting food in your belly.	554.7811
458		556.8050	Or relocating all together, because	558.7499
460		558.9870	your place was damaged by the by- m- the terrorists.	562.1246
461	LES_int_01	563.4197	Mm-hm.	563.7709
462	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	563.9202	See.	564.1660
464		564.3197	These are lessons	565.2636
466		565.3865	that were so important	566.7153
467	LES_int_01	566.7548	Mm-hm.	567.1850
468	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	568.0938	that.	568.4363
470		570.6841	And you can't do this with hate in your heart.	572.4387
471	LES_int_01	573.3562	Yeah.	573.7777
472	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	573.8392	You can't hate white people, you can't hate Jewish people, you can't hate	577.1934
474		577.6543	hispanic people, and you can't hate gay people.	579.5802
475	LES_int_01	579.8172	[Yeah.]	580.1816
476	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	580.0455	[Because] they will probably be the ones that will come to your rescue.	582.5875
477	LES_int_01	582.7938	Uh-huh.	583.2812
478	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	584.1987	That's the first lesson. The second lesson is	586.1509
480		586.4933	you must be willing to do something about it.	588.6270
482		590.3129	And stick to it.	590.9875
483	LES_int_01	591.2158	Yeah.	591.6241
484	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	592.2211	Because at the time I moved in here, I didn't know anything about anything.	595.5973
486		597.2641	But, by the time my contract was up in this building in two thousand and four, I was able to put a plan together	602.6098
488		603.1190	in which to save it.	603.9736
490		604.8736	And we got fifteen more years, so our contract is now up in two thousand nineteen.	609.5098
491	LES_int_01	610.3863	Wonderful.	610.9175
492	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	611.3697	And we were the only ones on the Lower East Side that got	613.3893
494		613.6439	fifteen years	614.5571
496		614.7195	at that point.	615.3407
498		617.8461	I was able to do that because I was able to get	620.0632
500		620.1729	all my elected officials	621.6568
502		622.7017	and	623.0925
504		623.4086	the people in this building, they finally woke up.	625.4002
506		626.6690	And	627.2925
508		627.9993	Anyone that I could talk to, I used any vendor,	630.5573
510		631.3212	any opportunity, whether it was a rally, a press conference,	634.5525
512		635.0574	to	635.3691
514		635.5754	air my cause.	636.6232
516		636.7285	To give it some publicity.	637.8920
517	LES_int_01	638.0544	Right.	638.4583
518	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	638.6207	The New York Times came here and did a article	640.7588
520		641.3252	on the building.	641.9602
522		642.7373	I was gonna make the cover, but	644.1817
523	LES_int_01	645.2112	[<laugh>]	645.8434
524	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	645.5251	[I was.] But,	646.7632
525		646.8861	something else	647.9359
527		648.1686	took [the cover that day.] I was in the Metro [section. Front the.]	651.3605
528	LES_int_01	648.6868	[Something else.]	649.5473
530		650.6668	[Oh.]	651.4746
531	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	652.1025	Huge	652.5283
533		653.2176	[Yeah.]	653.7676
534	LES_int_01	653.2176	[That's still] pretty good.	654.3707
535	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	654.5288	Uh.	655.2049
537		655.5122	Yeah,	655.8371
539		655.9556	the cover would have been even better.	656.9215
541		657.4527	[And. (laughing)]	658.2605
542	LES_int_01	657.4571	[<laugh>]	658.8312
543	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	658.9015	And um,	659.8630
545		660.9722	then I learned	661.9907
547		663.5186	how to get a bill passed, because right after that,	665.8630
549		666.0649	Alan Gerson wrote Local Law Seventy Nine.	668.0741
550	LES_int_01	668.9873	Which one was that?	669.6459
551	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	669.9971	That is the one that gave tenants the right	672.2039
553		672.4102	to buy their building.	673.3849
554	LES_int_01	674.3683	[Oh.]	674.9785
555	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	674.6624	[Oh.]	675.6634
556	LES_int_01	675.9268	Mm-hm	676.3351
557	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	676.5810	And for once, black	677.7752
559		677.9639	people, hispanic	679.0380
561		679.1961	people, white people, poor people, all came together, and stayed together for the two years to make sure that bill passed the city council.	686.7979
562	LES_int_01	686.9910	Mm-hm.	687.6293
563	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	687.7083	And we passed a bill	689.0385
565		690.6671	by forty-eight to three.	692.0807
566	LES_int_01	693.1153	Wow.	693.6773
567	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	694.1383	That's right.	694.7353
568	LES_int_01	694.7255	That's pretty good.	695.5651
569	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	695.9866	And the mayor was smoking.	697.2554
571		698.3925	He overrid, but nobody was concerned about his little exercise of penmanship.	701.7967
573		702.6659	So that's why- no, because we had the override automatically.	705.4318
575		707.2610	We overrid it forty-five to three.	708.8811
577		709.0435	Five people went on vacation, it was August.	711.0850
579		713.0898	That's right. And the mayor went to court.	715.2498
581		715.4781	That's the reason why he went into court, to make sure that	718.2259
583		718.5244	he get the power to select what bills he can affor- w- enforce.	721.9558
585		722.7197	And why the city council let him get away with that, I don't know.	725.0553
587		726.3373	But, this man has too much power. But, back to the Lower East Side,	729.3830
589		730.1337	[I've] seen changes.	731.6176
590	LES_int_01	730.1337	[Yeah.]	730.5552
591	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	731.8240	[From] the time I moved here,	733.2157
592	LES_int_01	731.8240	[Yeah.]	732.0654
593	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	733.5933	where the organizing was rich,	735.6683
595		736.1557	and there were small businesses and ma and pop businesses,	738.7591
597		739.0708	and you could go knock on. You could go into a store with your	742.1407
599		742.2680	flyers	743.0714
601		743.6026	and your	744.4763
603		745.3983	material	746.2983
605		746.5338	will-	746.8455
607		747.1704	will you post this? Will you join this?	749.0275
608	LES_int_01	749.3787	Yeah.	749.6246
609	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	749.7826	And we all worked together here.	751.4158
610	LES_int_01	751.6265	Uh-huh.	751.9251
611	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	752.1797	That's the way we survived.	753.5260
613		754.5094	That doesn't exist anymore.	755.7958
614	LES_int_01	757.2402	What happened?	757.8548
615	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	758.3158	Well,	758.7050
617		758.8016	they brought in a lot of	760.2548
619		760.4655	high end businesses, a lot of bars,	763.2709
621		764.0041	a lot of people	765.1221
623		765.9607	paying	766.5182
625		766.6631	two thousand five hundred dollars. The rent-	768.6519
627		768.9724	rent-	769.2182
629		769.3675	r- um,	770.0173
631		770.3114	vacancy decontrol killed us.	771.8359
633		773.3900	Literally. [The landlords] have taken advantage of this	776.5318
634	LES_int_01	773.9355	[Yeah.]	774.2429
635	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	777.0850	to make this money and they have	778.6875
637		778.8555	thrown out a lot of the people that were here.	781.2175
638	LES_int_01	782.2536	Yeah.	782.6400
640		782.9604	So, you're talking about kind of	784.3192
642		784.4861	gentrification	785.3658
643	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	785.6292	[Wholesale.]	786.5906
644	LES_int_01	785.6292	[in the neighborhood.]	786.3667
645	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	786.9052	Wholesale.	787.6647
646	LES_int_01	787.8403	Yeah.	788.1828
647	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	788.7008	Every- now.	789.5833
649		789.8731	[Ever-]	790.2418
650	LES_int_01	789.8731	[What do you] think about that?	791.0101
651	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	791.9058	I think it's the destruction of the Lower East Side. It takes away from its power.	795.4823
653		795.9872	See, what made the Lower East Side special	798.2658
655		798.3931	and different and powerful	799.9868
657		800.3277	is that everyone who came from a different place learned from someone else.	803.9233
658	LES_int_01	804.1077	Mm-hm.	804.7706
659	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	806.0175	And,	806.5691
661		807.1574	this buil- this area was conducive to organizing, to uh,	811.8814
663		812.2882	advocacy.	813.0784
665		813.5613	And it took the average person and turned them into someone that cared about it's community	817.9648
667		818.3321	that was	818.7404
669		818.8413	educated about it's community and the different issues and that was able to	822.7136
671		822.8804	put all of that action into a-	824.8106
673		825.5043	a	825.7457
675		825.9126	act	826.4218
677		827.5853	with other people	828.4282
679		828.6433	to make	829.0297
681		829.1482	things to change things to make a difference.	831.2672
682	LES_int_01	831.2672	Right.	831.7018
683	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	832.3033	That	832.5360
685		832.8214	is going by the wayside, because when you bring in white rich people. Excuse the front, but	837.1969
687		837.4033	[yuppies.]	837.9389
688	LES_int_01	837.8449	[No,] it's fine.	838.6044
689	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	839.0672	Oh, who will argue with the captain of your precinct	842.0580
691		842.6814	because he asked them	843.7658
693		844.1829	on Ludlow Street	845.1137
695		845.2542	uh,	845.5703
697		845.8907	could you keep down the noise and not smoke?	847.9263
699		848.3478	Because the smoke is going around.	849.4497
701		849.6210	He told 'em, look bitch,	850.6615
703		851.5044	I pay two thousand five hundred dollars in this bitch, I will make as much noise as I want to here, and I will smoke as many cigarettes	857.2190
705		857.3200	I want to. I'm outside. Get the fuck out of my face.	859.9476
707		861.4176	You see,	861.7996
709		862.0893	I feel on one hand,	863.4488
711		864.1029	sorry for the captain, on the other hand, no, because see this is what they wanted.	867.3322
713		868.1903	They weren't happy	869.0464
715		869.3434	when it was Hispanics and Blacks.	870.9064
717		871.4376	E- No.	872.1269
718	LES_int_01	872.5132	Mm-hm.	873.0417
719	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	873.0417	They thought that when	874.1552
720		874.3176	they brought in the whites,	875.5541
722		876.0459	they were gonna have	876.8627
724		877.0002	you know,	877.3278
726		877.6703	less crime and	878.9171
728		880.1727	uh, they were gonna have less issues, and	882.5940
730		883.3494	people that they could work with and be quiet whe-	885.6050
732		885.8195	n-	886.0014
733	LES_int_01	886.4677	Yeah.	886.8081
734	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	887.1531	mm- no.	887.6940
736		888.4028	No.	888.8131
738		889.6186	Different crime.	890.5885
740		890.6958	Yes.	891.3020
742		891.7776	Different issues, yes.	892.9619
744		893.0972	But not in-	893.6101
746		894.1183	in severity.	894.8318
748		895.1302	And I've actually heard white people	897.0875
750		897.3999	now	897.8195
752		898.1320	o- at these meetings	899.4469
754		899.6008	they had that bar thing,	900.6592
756		901.3435	well, what do you want? The drugs or the alcohol?	903.8755
758		905.9846	Like, knowing with the alcohol comes ecstasy	908.3906
760		908.5631	and um,	909.2755
762		909.6019	methamphetamine.	910.5158
764		911.6223	Mm-hm.	911.9613
765	LES_int_01	912.1165	Mm-hm.	912.5735
766	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	912.6574	Yeah, they don't know that.	913.7392
767	LES_int_01	913.8045	Yeah.	914.2242
768	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	914.3641	Mm-hm.	914.7371
770		914.8070	ecstasy, designer drugs and meth.	916.6066
771	LES_int_01	917.9728	Yeah.	918.3552
772	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	918.4298	Mm-hm.	918.8634
773	LES_int_01	919.8613	What else have you seen change since you've been here?	921.9692
774	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	922.8411	A lot of luxury housing.	924.0861
775	LES_int_01	924.4825	Mm-hm.	924.8835
776	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	925.6302	Putting you in odds	927.0018
778		927.1417	in your neighborhood for people that	928.5955
780		928.7727	have millions of dollars, I mean really rich people.	931.4802
782		932.6821	They had literally had	934.2302
784		934.9483	around the corner on New York Finds	937.5921
786		937.7087	on Sunday morning at eight thirty	939.5867
788		939.6940	where they	940.0623
790		940.4447	showcase all those rich.	942.3378
792		943.2984	Yes.	944.0118
794		944.1610	All those rich	945.1671
796		945.8758	<ts> condos.	946.7524
797	LES_int_01	946.9390	Yeah.	947.2374
798	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	948.1700	Fif- they were talking about	949.1645
800		949.3044	Attorney Street.	950.0864
802		950.8700	Around the corner from here.	952.0730
804		953.3787	[That building.]	954.1014
805	LES_int_01	953.3787	[The r- the] red [building?]	955.0200
806	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	954.6656	[Yes.]	955.5003
807	LES_int_01	955.5003	I just walked by it, I hadn't seen it [before <laugh>.]	957.6997
808	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	957.2664	[Yes.]	958.4461
809	LES_int_01	958.0637	[Yeah.]	958.4461
810	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	959.0289	One point five million.	960.3066
811	LES_int_01	960.4698	Oh God.	961.4909
812	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	963.7420	Then we had the building on Avenue B.	965.4160
813	LES_int_01	966.8148	Mm-hm.	967.1739
814	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	967.1739	That's another one.	967.8500
815	LES_int_01	968.2790	Go for it.	968.6427
816	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	975.4561	That's telemarketing.	976.5006
817	LES_int_01	978.6036	Yeah, that does look like	979.3170
819		979.4755	a	979.6774
821		980.1484	a hundred and fourteen HD channels. <laugh>	982.4705
822	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	983.4569	See, what [the don't understand this is]	984.8985
823	LES_int_01	984.3949	[Don't] do that.	985.3928
824	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	985.3928	This is not a private home.	986.8989
825	LES_int_01	987.5237	Yeah.	987.8677
826	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	987.9563	And um.	988.8329
828		990.2053	See,	990.4990
830		991.6927	n-	991.8373
832		992.1124	you know,	992.4668
834		994.6020	telemarketing this [is not] a private home man.	996.8753
835	LES_int_01	995.4904	[Yeah.]	995.6816
836	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	998.6217	[When.]	999.3958
837	LES_int_01	998.6217	[Do you work] out of your home?	999.7921
838	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1000.4578	No, but this is not a private home.	1002.0338
839	LES_int_01	1002.3322	Yeah.	1002.6820
840	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1002.9711	You can't put	1003.6379
842		1003.7498	any kind of cable system in this building.	1005.6802
844		1005.8621	Unless, you get the landlord's [approval.]	1007.7624
845	LES_int_01	1006.9365	[Oh.] I see. [Alright.]	1008.6530
846	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1008.5922	[Cause] I don't own this apartment I just rent this [apartment.]	1011.7112
847	LES_int_01	1011.4315	[Right,] right [right, right.]	1012.6811
848	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1012.1589	[So, you] calling the wrong person.	1013.5505
849	LES_int_01	1013.5971	Right. (laughing)	1014.1007
850	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1016.1804	Yeah. So.	1016.9964
851	LES_int_01	1017.1969	So, what do you do with your time now /RD-NAME-2/?	1018.9292
853		1019.2090	Are you retired?	1020.0064
854	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1020.1463	No, uh.	1021.2187
856		1023.5175	We still have a lot of issues.	1025.0272
858		1025.2417	One,	1025.6147
860		1026.1369	that contract that I fought so hard to get here,	1028.6642
861	LES_int_01	1028.9860	Yeah.	1029.2844
862	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1029.2844	It's not secure.	1030.2776
863		1031.0971	It's subject to appropriation.	1032.5892
865		1033.1395	What that means is	1034.0860
867		1034.4078	if they don't appropriate /enouch/ enough money,	1036.5423
869		1036.9946	to cover the contract, then there is no contract.	1039.4835
871		1040.5932	And these people	1041.4092
873		1041.5864	can be thrown out.	1042.6682
874	LES_int_01	1043.2791	Okay.	1043.6521
875	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1043.7267	O-	1043.8852
877		1044.1126	into the street.	1044.8866
879		1045.0778	And within [thirty days.]	1046.3181
880	LES_int_01	1045.9264	[Everybody?]	1046.6119
881	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1046.7378	Everybody.	1047.2693
883		1047.3859	[If]	1047.6890
884	LES_int_01	1047.4699	[The] entire building?	1048.5656
885	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1048.7848	If	1049.2697
887		1049.5309	the landlord gets really nasty	1051.3342
889		1051.6560	and decides	1052.5279
891		1052.9056	he wants to change the use of the building.	1055.2977
892	LES_int_01	1057.9964	And they vacate, and then	1059.5631
894		1059.8336	this apartment is	1060.9946
895	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1061.1951	[Sold.]	1061.8701
896	LES_int_01	1061.4889	[/inaudible/ dollars.]	1062.4110
897	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1062.4576	No, it's sold.	1063.8612
898	LES_int_01	1064.3414	Oh, [become.]	1065.1994
899	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1065.0129	[Use]	1065.6610
900		1065.7496	of the building, instead of from a rental, [he goes to a condo.]	1069.0498
901	LES_int_01	1067.5064	[<ts> Ah, he goes to] condo. Okay.	1070.0477
902	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1070.2249	Or a co-op.	1071.1434
904		1072.4817	You will not get a voucher to stay here.	1074.3597
905	LES_int_01	1075.3715	Mm-hm.	1075.7492
906	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1075.9404	You will have to leave.	1076.8823
908		1077.6097	And then we have a little thing going on called equity	1080.3037
910		1081.0172	predatorial	1081.9218
912		1082.2202	predatorial equity.	1083.3813
913	LES_int_01	1083.6004	Yeah.	1083.9315
914	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1085.0506	My good friend, /RD-NAME-4/,	1086.5807
916		1087.1170	who was the president of the tenant association,	1089.3806
918		1089.9355	at /RD-ADDRESS-8/	1091.9547
919	LES_int_01	1092.2671	[Mm-hm.]	1092.5820
920	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1092.3790	[building] was just bought in the month of October for a hundred and seventy million.	1095.9525
921		1098.7210	Now, the building's only four hundred and ninety units.	1101.3423
923		1102.8146	Okay.	1103.2949
925		1104.7264	And the contract is up on that in two thousand ten.	1107.0998
927		1109.4301	So, you know what the landlord plans to do there.	1111.2720
928	LES_int_01	1111.4025	Sure.	1111.7756
929	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1112.9087	If he changes the building into a condo,	1115.3462
931		1117.0062	if you can't afford to buy your apartment,	1118.9040
933		1119.0112	you will have to leave.	1120.1432
934	LES_int_01	1120.3903	Yeah.	1120.6141
935	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1121.1690	And there's a lot of seniors in there.	1122.6938
936	LES_int_01	1122.9922	Yeah.	1123.4305
937	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1123.9621	Where are they going?	1124.9600
939		1127.6446	And he can inflict this within thirty days	1130.0507
941		1130.6335	after the contract expires.	1132.2318
942	LES_int_01	1135.3800	Incredible.	1135.9769
943	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1135.9489	Because, you [see, that's wha-]	1137.0480
944	LES_int_01	1136.5538	[So, you spend] your time organizing?	1138.1625
945	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1138.5821	Yeah, so lo- local law seventy-nine was-	1140.8856
947		1141.0721	was put	1141.5710
949		1141.7762	t- was passed to-	1142.7123
951		1143.2998	to offset that.	1144.2930
952	LES_int_01	1144.6787	Yeah.	1144.9551
953	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1144.9551	But the st- state shut it down because they said the city did not have a right	1148.4010
954		1148.5549	to	1148.9031
956		1149.5326	to restrict sales.	1150.7962
958		1152.9270	And now we got this predatory lending.	1154.6522
960		1155.3796	And it's.	1156.0651
962		1156.1677	E- my building could be sold for the same amount.	1158.3861
964		1158.6705	They don't care about	1159.4166
966		1159.5891	a-	1159.8036
968		1160.6382	a fifteen year old HAP contract.	1162.4008
970		1162.9744	They'll find some creative way to get out of it.	1164.6490
971	LES_int_01	1165.3904	So, you gotta continue to fight for your building.	1167.2928
972	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1167.5586	No, you have to stay vig- vigilant.	1169.1766
974		1169.4051	And make sure that your building doesn't fall under that	1172.2390
976		1172.4815	and make sure if they try to sell it, their HUD	1174.6590
978		1175.1253	at least	1175.9507
980		1176.8122	is aware of it and is willing to do something about it because HUD can nix a sale.	1180.5938
981	LES_int_01	1181.5547	Okay.	1181.9790
982	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1182.4500	As they did in Starrett City in Brooklyn.	1184.4457
983	LES_int_01	1184.8887	Hm.	1185.2512
984	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1185.2512	Remember?	1185.6895
985	LES_int_01	1185.8061	Uh, no. I'm not familiar.	1187.0091
986	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1187.0091	Yeah.	1187.6200
987		1187.8438	In Brooklyn, you know were Starrett City is in Brooklyn?	1189.6763
988	LES_int_01	1189.6763	Yeah. [Yeah.]	1190.3478
989	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1190.1146	[Oh, yeah.]	1190.3524
990		1190.6275	They were- that wa- tha- that was	1191.9419
992		1192.1144	uh, supposed to be bought and the city had said no.	1194.7210
993	LES_int_01	1194.8236	Oh, okay.	1195.4904
995		1196.1478	Okay.	1196.4230
996	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1196.4230	But, it didn't help	1197.3917
997		1198.4735	Independence Plaza.	1199.5833
999		1199.7371	That was bought for a hundred and fifty million.	1201.4484
1001		1203.0058	You know, Independence, [uh-huh.]	1204.5574
1002	LES_int_01	1203.8999	[Mm-hm.]	1204.5574
1003	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1205.1543	And the rents are going up. They're sky high and they have them in court and they're still having that issue.	1208.9825
1005		1209.2940	That's a /???/ when that came out.	1210.7906
1006	LES_int_01	1211.0937	Yeah.	1211.5086
1008		1211.8397	Yeah.	1212.1335
1009	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1212.3013	See.	1212.5811
1011		1212.7863	And.	1213.1966
1013		1213.6769	Times is hard, you can't be just	1215.5596
1015		1215.7029	/disaplay-/ di-	1216.7446
1017		1217.0523	you know,	1217.4673
1019		1217.8171	displacing people on a whole sale.	1219.5703
1021		1219.8681	And these developments are large.	1221.5474
1022	LES_int_01	1222.1116	Oh, yeah.	1222.8501
1024		1223.1812	You know, I-	1223.6428
1026		1223.8806	I made a mistake.	1224.8552
1028		1225.1956	Because it's /RD-ADDRESS-5/,	1226.8789
1030		1227.3218	when I came in the building,	1228.5016
1032		1229.1486	like a crazy person, I went to two ten,	1231.3867
1034		1231.9463	the ap- apartment.	1232.8602
1036		1233.2472	I was amazed at how huge and long the [hallway was.]	1236.3283
1037	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1235.5123	[Uh-huh.]	1236.2117
1038	LES_int_01	1236.4682	Well it's a massive building. Yeah. [Yeah.]	1238.5245
1039	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1237.8437	[That's a long.]	1238.6877
1040	LES_int_01	1239.1213	And then I g- I got there and I thought, oh.	1240.8066
1042		1240.9745	[Idiot. /inaudible/]	1241.5527
1043	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1241.1797	[You seeing that long hallway?]	1242.5972
1044	LES_int_01	1241.7159	[Came back to /RD-ADDRESS-3/.] Yeah. So long.	1243.6850
1045	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1243.8342	Kay, the drug dealer lived on fir- in a th- in apartment Three-o-one. Hi- his	1248.8966
1046	LES_int_01	1248.8966	Third floor, that long hallway.	1250.4954
1047	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1250.4954	Three-o-one.	1251.2881
1048	LES_int_01	1251.2881	It's kind of	1251.6891
1050		1251.7870	I could see how it would [be.]	1252.7802
1051	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1252.5984	[No.] Three-o-two. The-	1253.7641
1052	LES_int_01	1253.8807	Okay.	1254.2444
1053	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1254.2444	the second apartment.	1255.1863
1054	LES_int_01	1255.5267	Mm-hm.	1256.0862
1055	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1256.2867	His line was from his apartment all the way to Houston Street.	1259.2698
1057		1259.8807	How many people is that?	1260.7993
1058	LES_int_01	1261.0790	Incredible.	1261.9184
1059	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1262.1282	How many people can stand on a line to buy drugs?	1264.4631
1060	LES_int_01	1264.9248	Incredible.	1265.5309
1061	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1265.8014	That's ho- that's how it was in here.	1267.0557
1062	LES_int_01	1267.0557	That's incredible.	1267.8717
1063	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1268.2821	But,	1268.5187
1065		1268.6773	no, this place have change. It's lost its charm, it's lost its power.	1272.6407
1067		1273.0650	[Its lost.] See,	1273.7831
1068	LES_int_01	1273.0650	[Mm-hm.]	1273.3914
1069	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1273.8904	When you take people that were willing to fight	1276.1461
1071		1276.3559	together to make things better,	1278.0345
1072	LES_int_01	1278.3050	Yeah.	1278.6734
1073	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1278.7993	You lose the momentum, you lose the power. These rich people that come in here, they don't care about anybody. They want you gone. They're not gonna live next to you.	1285.7565
1074	LES_int_01	1286.0409	Yeah.	1286.3999
1075	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1286.9875	They don't wanna see your kids hanging out, they don't want to see you doing anything.	1290.5029
1077		1290.7081	That is not	1291.5225
1079		1291.9655	what their standards should be.	1293.6021
1080	LES_int_01	1293.7770	Right.	1294.2257
1081	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1294.1687	And they believe because they're paying rent, they're supposed to have special privileges.	1297.5295
1082	LES_int_01	1297.7393	Right.	1298.1729
1084		1298.4760	Right.	1298.7511
1085	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1299.0822	And that's a	1299.6184
1087		1299.7210	luxury building around the corner from me, there's gonna be one	1302.2856
1089		1302.9886	here up on Stanton Street.	1304.5366
1091		1306.5464	Mm-hm. You saw i- the- mm-hm.	1308.1877
1093		1308.3835	And the one next to that,	1309.2963
1095		1309.9771	those both [are gonna be luxury.]	1311.2407
1096	LES_int_01	1310.6252	[Yeah] I see 'em all, yeah, I do. They- they're [/inaudible/]	1313.6281
1097	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1312.7888	[Now, the only] thing	1313.7494
1098		1313.9033	the only thing that's saving my building is that Common Ground is going to build next to me.	1318.1289
1099	LES_int_01	1318.5159	Oh, they are?	1319.2993
1100	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1319.4241	Yes. Common Ground is going to be a two hundred and sixty unit.	1322.1425
1101	LES_int_01	1322.7301	That's great.	1323.2896
1102	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1323.4248	Yeah, that's the only thing, but.	1324.7677
1104		1326.2193	I don't know.	1326.7788
1105	LES_int_01	1326.7788	Let me ask you. In your opinion,	1328.2185
1107		1328.5869	uh,	1329.2537
1109		1329.5941	what do you think the boundaries are of the Lower East Side as a neighborhood?	1332.8068
1111		1333.1892	In terms of the streets,	1334.4283
1113		1334.6848	people have different opinions about that.	1336.3635
1115		1336.6899	What's the Lower East Side to you?	1337.9955
1117		1338.4291	Like the	1338.7882
1119		1338.9793	the geographic	1339.9481
1120	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1340.2232	Okay.	1340.6382
1121	LES_int_01	1340.6801	area.	1341.0345
1122	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1342.8531	Okay.	1343.8602
1124		1344.0841	I used to think that	1345.1239
1126		1347.0299	North of Houston was the East Village,	1349.0163
1128		1349.7390	but it's really not.	1350.6436
1130		1351.1565	It's still part of the Lower East Side.	1352.7921
1131	LES_int_01	1352.8387	Yeah.	1353.4262
1132	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1353.4262	But [it's.]	1354.1117
1133	LES_int_01	1354.0137	[Historically] it was.	1355.2494
1134	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1355.2494	Historically it was, [but]	1356.5084
1135	LES_int_01	1356.2752	[Yeah.]	1356.5084
1136	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1356.6902	it's	1356.8348
1138		1356.9514	that's changing rapidly.	1358.2465
1139	LES_int_01	1359.1651	Yeah.	1359.4775
1140	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1360.2282	Because, um.	1361.3007
1142		1361.7110	They have a lot of expensive shops and a lot of expensive buildings and they killing it.	1365.0951
1143	LES_int_01	1365.3330	Yeah.	1365.5661
1144	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1365.8925	Now, the Lower East Side really is	1368.4198
1146		1368.7415	It's hard to say because it's-	1370.2978
1148		1370.4330	it's	1370.8107
1150		1371.5148	slowly, but surely,	1372.9743
1152		1373.6970	losing	1374.3685
1154		1374.5737	the Lower East Side.	1375.6275
1155	LES_int_01	1375.8420	Mm-hm.	1376.2931
1157		1376.5636	Mm-hm.	1376.9040
1158	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1377.3982	Now, we have from Houston Street	1379.7996
1160		1379.9675	to	1380.5923
1162		1381.4725	Henry Street. It still reminds you of the Lower East Side,	1384.1909
1164		1384.8158	And Madison Street.	1386.0188
1165	LES_int_01	1386.0188	Yeah.	1386.3918
1166	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1387.9807	For now.	1388.3631
1167	LES_int_01	1388.6149	Yeah.	1388.9739
1168	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1390.4940	They still	1391.1655
1170		1391.3846	have a littl- Lower East Side flavor.	1393.4643
1171	LES_int_01	1393.7207	Yeah.	1394.0367
1172	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1394.3258	Chinatown	1395.1138
1174		1396.7551	has the	1397.2261
1176		1397.4919	flavor.	1397.9302
1177	LES_int_01	1397.9861	Yeah.	1398.3498
1178	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1399.7207	But, maybe not for long. Barbey Street	1401.4822
1180		1403.4033	has the flavor.	1404.3405
1182		1405.1402	So, let's say Houston from Bowery to	1407.9704
1184		1408.6838	the East River.	1409.5324
1185	LES_int_01	1409.5791	Yeah.	1409.8915
1186	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1410.0687	And from Houston to	1412.2376
1188		1414.9527	<ts>	1415.1019
1190		1416.6966	uh, East Broadway.	1417.9649
1191	LES_int_01	1418.7720	Okay.	1419.1684
1193		1420.1243	Yeah.	1420.3901
1194	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1420.7398	[It's the Lower East Side.]	1421.9418
1195	LES_int_01	1420.8880	[How abov- above] Houston?	1422.7718
1196	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1423.2941	[Going west?]	1424.1800
1197	LES_int_01	1423.4992	[You're not sure.]	1424.2499
1198		1424.4505	You're not sure.	1425.0431
1199	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1425.0431	Houston going west?	1426.1529
1200		1426.7124	No.	1427.1740
1201	LES_int_01	1426.7124	[No.]	1427.0945
1202		1427.2972	Houston going north. Like n-	1428.4934
1204		1428.6473	wa- you know, Houston to Fourteenth	1430.0508
1205	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1431.0601	He-	1431.2233
1207		1431.4518	It used to be.	1432.0906
1209		1432.5663	But that's going. It's slowly it's-	1434.1292
1211		1434.2784	it's dissolving. [Why woul-]	1435.3322
1212	LES_int_01	1435.1801	[It] feels different to you?	1436.0410
1213	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1436.3301	Yeah.	1436.7404
1215		1436.8850	<laugh> It's dissolving.	1438.0414
1216	LES_int_01	1438.2185	Mm-hm.	1438.6942
1217	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1438.8993	It's becoming more and more white.	1440.3081
1218	LES_int_01	1440.5833	Yeah.	1440.8257
1219	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1441.3573	You don't see too many Blacks anymore.	1442.9054
1221		1443.7074	In fact, they're trying to [get Blacks] out [of.]	1445.7579
1222	LES_int_01	1444.6422	[Getting-]	1444.9883
1224		1445.5061	[Getting] pushed	1446.3921
1225		1446.5226	east.	1447.0216
1226	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1447.4226	No, they're trying to get Blacks out or rent stabilize	1450.2296
1228		1450.3509	in	1450.7053
1230		1451.3630	little tiny /??/ apartments.	1452.8933
1231	LES_int_01	1453.0239	Yeah.	1453.3223
1232	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1453.3549	You're not gonna see any Blacks or Hispanics.	1455.0382
1234		1455.3643	I notice in all the bars that they created,	1457.5087
1236		1457.7045	and you know how many bars [we have.]	1459.0381
1237	LES_int_01	1458.6371	[Oh] yeah.	1459.5603
1238	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1459.6396	Have you ever noticed this? How many blacks do you see in there?	1461.6278
1240		1463.2027	Go to the [bars?]	1464.0747
1241	LES_int_01	1463.8462	[I don't] go. <laugh>	1465.0306
1242	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1465.0912	No, but if you ever look in there.	1466.4248
1243	LES_int_01	1466.7232	Yeah.	1467.0916
1245		1467.3294	Not a lot.	1467.8843
1246	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1468.7318	Uh-huh.	1469.1095
1248		1469.7157	Why is that?	1470.2193
1250		1471.1565	<ts> Black people don't like to drink?	1472.3922
1251	LES_int_01	1472.5694	<laugh>	1473.3061
1253		1474.7644	Uh. So.	1475.6271
1254	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1476.3685	Mm?	1476.6949
1255	LES_int_01	1476.6949	Different clientele.	1477.5948
1256	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1478.4528	No. I mean, can you believe that?	1480.0605
1258		1480.2284	[They're] not	1480.7599
1259	LES_int_01	1480.2284	[Yeah.]	1480.4996
1260	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1481.3614	I noticed when we had our little party at	1483.9548
1262		1484.2253	the um	1484.6915
1264		1486.0520	<ts> bar on Allen Street.	1487.3995
1265	LES_int_01	1488.0057	Which one?	1488.5233
1266	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1489.2787	Uh, Allen and Stanton.	1490.9014
1267	LES_int_01	1492.2804	Uh-huh.	1493.1338
1268	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1493.5254	Yeah.	1493.8845
1270		1494.1782	He's named after um,	1495.5212
1272		1496.2299	<ts>	1496.3838
1274		1496.9480	one of the uh, actors that played	1499.1757
1276		1499.2690	on that series of	1500.2575
1278		1500.5793	Come Back Mr.Carter or Go ba-	1501.9175
1280		1503.2837	Uh.	1503.7256
1282		1505.8798	You remember that?	1506.4207
1284		1506.6352	At- that- as- [a-]	1507.4978
1285	LES_int_01	1507.3626	[Yeah.]	1508.1413
1286	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1508.1413	Uh, it's called uh,	1509.4604
1287		1510.1887	Benny.	1510.6689
1289		1511.2238	Barba- no.	1511.9746
1291		1512.5108	It's called	1513.1263
1293		1513.3175	Epstein's Bar.	1514.1479
1294	LES_int_01	1514.3577	Oh. Epstein's B- I	1515.7053
1295	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1515.7393	It [was named after.]	1517.0029
1296	LES_int_01	1516.0347	[I- /inaudible/ I walked by. It's a funny joke. [Yeah. I heard about it. /inaudible/]	1519.5209
1297	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1518.3505	[Yeah.]	1518.7608
1299		1518.8541	[It was named] because of the character Epstein.	1521.1555
1300		1521.5892	Mr. Kotter.	1522.6476
1301	LES_int_01	1522.8202	Oh, [okay. (laughing)]	1524.4571
1302	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1523.9535	[<laugh>]	1525.2265
1303	LES_int_01	1525.5669	You had a party there?	1526.4202
1304	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1526.5414	Yeah, we did. When Local Law Seventy-Nine was passed.	1529.6691
1305	LES_int_01	1529.9349	Oh. [Okay.]	1530.8951
1306	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1530.5783	[And I]	1531.1845
1307		1531.2871	went talked to the guy	1532.5414
1309		1532.8398	the owner, and I said, look, I'd like to bring in fifty organizers and what not. We-	1537.1248
1311		1537.8149	we a fun bunch and-	1538.7894
1313		1538.9526	and he said, okay.	1539.6917
1315		1540.4763	I'll give you a special rate. Drinks are one dollars, two dollars and three dollars.	1543.7400
1317		1544.6399	[Yeah.]	1544.8684
1318	LES_int_01	1544.6399	[Pretty] good.	1545.1062
1319	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1545.1314	Yeah. We- honey, you- oh yes it- [they-]	1546.8608
1320	LES_int_01	1546.6790	[<laugh>]	1547.6349
1321	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1547.4204	[It was] so good, they had a t-	1548.5587
1322		1548.6519	Tequila drinking contest.	1550.0818
1323	LES_int_01	1550.2916	<laugh>	1551.7697
1324	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1551.9935	Boy, they can drink too.	1552.8981
1326		1552.9728	But, I noticed the people in the community were looking at us.	1555.4161
1328		1557.7091	<ts> We got some looks that didn't make me k- very	1559.5789
1330		1559.6955	feel [very.]	1560.2551
1331	LES_int_01	1559.8706	[The other] people	1560.9452
1332		1561.1736	Yeah, there's.	1561.8066
1334		1562.1890	Talk about community, what- what uh,	1564.3386
1336		1564.5205	what community do you feel a part of?	1566.4929
1338		1567.0617	I wanna know if	1567.9344
1340		1568.0976	everybody that lives in	1569.4160
1342		1569.5139	these	1569.8776
1344		1570.0548	boundaries that we just talked about, are they all part of the Lower East Side [community?]	1573.2116
1345	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1572.6847	[Yes. They are.]	1573.3095
1346		1573.4774	They are.	1573.9204
1347	LES_int_01	1574.4379	And what does it take to be [a]	1575.9476
1348	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1575.8963	[But.]	1576.1714
1349	LES_int_01	1576.2320	community member?	1577.1086
1350	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1578.1671	Well, you have to be willing to	1580.1582
1352		1580.5627	work with other people, you have to be willing to	1583.2439
1354		1583.7568	lend your services to make a difference.	1585.7338
1355	LES_int_01	1585.8411	Yeah.	1586.1442
1356	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1587.1595	Yes, they all part of the community, but they g- they're getting- numbers are getting smaller and smaller as the rich developments are move in.	1593.9035
1357	LES_int_01	1594.1553	So, the new, uh, the yuppies that are moving in	1596.5452
1358	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1596.7224	[Are not.]	1597.1328
1359	LES_int_01	1596.8716	[they're] not for you.	1598.0280
1360	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1598.1073	[No.]	1598.3778
1361	LES_int_01	1598.2006	[And] what would it take for them to	1599.5656
1362		1599.6729	could they ever become part of the community?	1601.7199
1363	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1601.7665	Oh. [If they're willing to] uh,	1603.6270
1364	LES_int_01	1602.0696	[/inaudible/]	1602.8250
1365	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1604.0001	uh, not be so selfish.	1605.3278
1367		1606.6568	And actually participate and lend themselves to making a condition different.	1610.6342
1368	LES_int_01	1611.3082	[So, participation.]	1612.9775
1369	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1611.3875	[And not one that's]	1612.2828
1371		1612.8190	[Not] one that doesn't only serve their cause.	1615.2764
1372	LES_int_01	1616.6647	Right.	1617.0191
1374		1617.7699	Right.	1618.0263
1376		1619.4345	Yeah.	1619.6677
1377	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1619.6677	<ts> And I don't see that.	1620.6049
1378		1621.9012	They really don't want us around.	1623.3502
1380		1624.8703	[Trust me.]	1625.3226
1381	LES_int_01	1624.8703	[And you feel] that.	1625.7189
1382	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1625.9801	Oh, no, they make it crystal clear.	1627.4302
1383	LES_int_01	1627.7007	Mm-hm.	1628.0457
1384	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1628.3104	The building on Houston Street,	1629.8538
1386		1629.9704	next to Barrier Free Living.	1631.3925
1387	LES_int_01	1631.8448	Yeah.	1632.2552
1388	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1632.4650	That tall building.	1633.2157
1389	LES_int_01	1633.4815	Which one? The.	1634.3535
1390	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1634.7906	One right next to Barrier Free Living, like Barrier Free Living is here, and the building is there.	1638.7355
1391	LES_int_01	1638.8054	Yeah.	1639.2111
1392	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1640.2183	I tried, I went in there when they first opened up to see if I can	1643.4362
1394		1644.2569	get an apartment.	1645.0402
1396		1645.1661	<ts>	1645.2501
1398		1645.7676	And she said	1646.2619
1400		1646.6023	Oh, we don't-	1647.2458
1402		1647.3250	we don't do	1647.9621
1404		1648.0973	u- applications. That's passe.	1649.9485
1406		1651.0023	What we do is docume-	1652.1820
1408		1652.5691	mm.	1652.8209
1410		1653.5110	What we do is documentation.	1654.9862
1412		1656.0074	And the be- most doc- the one documentation you must have is the one that says you make seventy-seven thousand dollars.	1662.5776
1414		1663.4346	Then we go further.	1664.3028
1416		1664.7458	If you don't make seventy-seven thousand dollars, you're not even considered for that building.	1667.9586
1417	LES_int_01	1670.0277	Mm.	1670.8204
1418	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1671.0816	<ts> And the um, studio apartments start at fifteen hundred.	1673.9865
1419	LES_int_01	1675.2323	Oh dear.	1675.9410
1420	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1679.8334	<ts> And that was years ago.	1680.7986
1421	LES_int_01	1680.8779	Yeah.	1681.3582
1422	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1682.5425	<ts> Okay.	1682.8596
1424		1683.8563	Alright?	1684.1314
1425	LES_int_01	1684.4998	Yeah.	1684.9101
1426	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1686.1505	It's right off of the FDR Drive, you come right up and [then.]	1688.3653
1427	LES_int_01	1688.1695	[I-] I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah.	1689.9123
1428	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1689.9123	Yeah.	1690.3040
1429		1691.1433	And she gave me the tape.	1692.5328
1431		1694.6684	You think those people wanna be bothered?	1696.1920
1432	LES_int_01	1696.4252	Mm-hm.	1696.8588
1433	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1696.8588	No.	1697.1573
1434	LES_int_01	1697.5070	[Yeah,]	1697.8380
1435	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1697.7168	[You] think the people that gonna move into Avenue B	1699.6053
1436		1700.7151	and um,	1701.4320
1438		1702.0055	se-	1702.4578
1440		1702.5791	And uh Houston, are gonna wanna be bothered?	1704.6354
1441	LES_int_01	1704.8266	Yeah.	1705.1250
1442	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1706.4026	You think the people around the corner o- on- on	1708.6723
1444		1708.8309	Attorney Street	1709.4977
1446		1709.6375	are gonna wa- one point five million dollars are gonna wanna be bothered?	1712.3607
1447	LES_int_01	1712.7477	Mm-hm.	1713.1767
1448	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1713.6138	No.	1713.7864
1449	LES_int_01	1714.0615	Yeah.	1714.3413
1450	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1714.6547	They're not gonna be interested in no community.	1716.3976
1451	LES_int_01	1716.5561	Yeah.	1716.8079
1453		1718.0389	What are some places in the community that are important to you?	1720.8807
1455		1721.4403	Where you spend time, or	1722.8765
1457		1723.0910	in the time that you've lived here that matter to you?	1725.2441
1458	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1726.1487	Clinton Street.	1726.9320
1459	LES_int_01	1727.3890	Clinton Street.	1728.0045
1460	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1728.9884	Uh.	1729.3008
1462		1730.1250	Delancey.	1731.0529
1464		1731.9995	Orchard.	1732.7035
1465	LES_int_01	1733.1279	Yeah.	1733.4263
1466	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1733.6128	Yeah.	1734.1910
1467	LES_int_01	1734.2003	Places where you walk? Or [where you shop?]	1736.4607
1468	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1735.4582	[Where the- where. Yeah] where you shop.	1737.3700
1469	LES_int_01	1737.4213	Yeah.	1737.7710
1471		1738.8294	Yeah.	1739.0859
1472	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1739.1565	Packmark	1739.9286
1473	LES_int_01	1739.9199	Orchard.	1740.3882
1474		1740.6185	Yeah. Packmark?	1741.3209
1475	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1741.4702	[Uh-huh.]	1742.2824
1476	LES_int_01	1741.9268	[Oh. Is- that where you do your shopping? At Packmark?	1744.0402
1477	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1744.4534	E- p- and Key Food.	1745.7816
1478	LES_int_01	1745.7948	Yeah. [/inaudible/]	1746.9977
1479	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1745.9309	[And Fine Fare.]	1747.1468
1480		1747.7615	And Fine [Fare.]	1748.6537
1481	LES_int_01	1748.3640	[Mm-hm.]	1748.9172
1482	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1750.3177	Whoever got what on sale.	1751.6891
1483	LES_int_01	1751.8631	<laugh> Right.	1753.6279
1484	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1754.6222	Yeah, and um.	1755.7406
1486		1755.8986	Lemme see where else.	1756.5967
1488		1757.3123	The	1757.8281
1490		1757.9555	nail places,	1759.2901
1491	LES_int_01	1759.2901	Uh-huh.	1759.9135
1492	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1761.0374	and the hair places.	1762.4232
1493	LES_int_01	1762.4891	Okay.	1762.8667
1494	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1764.2408	Yeah. I mean, this is the area where I can get whatever I need whenever I need it.	1767.6126
1495	LES_int_01	1768.0062	Yeah.	1768.3662
1496	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1768.6120	So, there's a l- I like that.	1770.3725
1497	LES_int_01	1770.4647	Yeah.	1770.7852
1498	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1770.7852	I like being able to walk out my door and go around the corner and get my nails done,	1774.4429
1499		1775.0092	if I wanna get my hair done, wanna get colored da da da da da da.	1779.2431
1500	LES_int_01	1779.5447	Yeah.	1779.9486
1501	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1780.0540	By the way, in this building, they got	1781.2865
1503		1781.4577	people that do that too.	1782.3445
1504	LES_int_01	1782.8450	In this-	1783.0909
1506		1783.2050	in the building?	1783.7538
1507	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1783.7538	Yes lor-	1784.4897
1508	LES_int_01	1784.6214	[Well, that's] convenient.	1785.4644
1509	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1784.6478	[i-]	1784.8190
1510		1786.6526	Yeah. If you wanna pay 'em.	1787.5965
1511	LES_int_01	1787.9565	<laugh>	1788.7775
1512	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1789.5546	No, I mean they have hairdressers in the building, they have everything. Nails. You can get your nails.	1793.2216
1513	LES_int_01	1793.3094	Cool.	1793.8099
1514	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1793.8099	But	1794.0498
1515		1794.1815	and the I can't- you can't beat the Chinese for doing your toenails and your	1797.4830
1516	LES_int_01	1797.6762	Mm.	1798.3084
1517	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1798.6201	your nails. They are- [they are] very good at that.	1801.0671
1518	LES_int_01	1799.4691	[Yeah.]	1799.7840
1519		1801.0671	Yeah.	1801.7169
1521		1802.0181	[That's] good, I like- I like to get-	1803.5464
1522	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1802.0271	[Yeah.]	1802.3476
1523		1803.7305	And they ha- but I noticed something else that they have	1806.4964
1525		1806.6149	these massage. They have these high end now.	1809.8797
1526	LES_int_01	1810.0553	Oh, yeah.	1810.6743
1527	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1810.6743	Nail places on Houston,	1812.7186
1528	LES_int_01	1812.8723	Yeah.	1813.2982
1529	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1814.4177	and on Avenue B.	1815.6206
1530	LES_int_01	1815.6206	They have massage there?	1816.7727
1531	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1817.1314	Yeah. High end, where they offer you wine with it.	1819.9741
1532	LES_int_01	1820.4243	What?	1820.9204
1533	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1820.9204	Mm-hm.	1821.4955
1534		1821.8072	On Avenue [B.]	1822.5828
1535	LES_int_01	1822.3369	[I haven't] been to a place like that. I got to the cheap [ones.]	1824.6330
1536	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1824.4794	[Uh] no. On Avenue B.	1825.6252
1537	LES_int_01	1826.1784	Really?	1826.5735
1538	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1826.5735	Yeah, if you walk straight up Avenue [B.]	1828.2798
1539	LES_int_01	1828.0225	[Oh, funny.]	1829.1113
1540	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1828.8462	[you'll] see it.	1829.5311
1541	LES_int_01	1829.6688	[Funny.]	1830.0332
1542	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1829.6760	[It's a i-] not too far in, it's not	1831.2433
1543		1831.7394	I mean, I'm serious. Between s- first and second.]	1833.9038
1544	LES_int_01	1833.4736	[I believe] you. I believe [you.]	1834.9093
1545	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1834.6854	[I looked] at this, I said oh.	1835.9103
1546		1836.2176	Excuse me, is right next to the chiropractor.	1838.0073
1547	LES_int_01	1838.0951	And the pedicure is- was sixty-five dollars [or something like that? <laugh>]	1842.0244
1548	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1840.5625	[Yeah, something- yeah, yeah.]	1842.0332
1549	LES_int_01	1842.2835	[Right.]	1842.7313
1550	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1842.3142	[Yeah.]	1842.6962
1551	LES_int_01	1842.8762	[Right.]	1843.2625
1552	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1842.8849	[Yeah.] And, um.	1844.0220
1553		1846.6108	And then um,	1847.6425
1555		1848.7137	Those buildings are expensive.	1850.1961
1556	LES_int_01	1850.4990	[Yeah.]	1850.7361
1557	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1850.6351	[You] see, it changes the whole.	1851.9391
1558		1852.5713	They have a organic cleaner.	1854.0113
1560		1857.3508	Organic cleaner, nail place,	1859.4449
1561	LES_int_01	1859.4449	Yeah.	1859.8137
1562	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1859.8137	pizza place	1860.7225
1563		1861.0606	chiropractor.	1861.9455
1565		1863.2099	There's a vet.	1863.7674
1567		1864.0440	The vet is on uh, Sixth Street.	1865.9889
1568	LES_int_01	1866.5421	And B.	1867.0075
1569	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1867.2050	Yeah, [the- uh- s- wa-]	1868.3908
1570	LES_int_01	1867.6587	[Yeah, I take my cats there.]	1868.7036
1571	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1868.9308	Oh. [Yo-]	1869.4093
1572	LES_int_01	1869.1854	[They] moved. I think.	1870.2171
1573	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1870.2171	They moved?	1870.8054
1574	LES_int_01	1871.5470	Yeah.	1871.9992
1576		1873.0748	I think they just moved. We used to, we- we did. We took our cats there.	1875.8977
1577	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1875.8977	On Avenue B?	1876.6353
1578	LES_int_01	1876.6353	Yeah. Yeah.	1877.3202
1579	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1877.6714	[How was it?]	1878.3592
1580	LES_int_01	1877.7489	[I think it's] on like Fourth Street.	1879.3119
1581	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1879.5665	It's on Fourth Street?	1880.3041
1582	LES_int_01	1880.4533	Yeah, they were good. I took, we took our [cats.]	1882.9163
1583	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1882.4641	[Are they] expensive though?	1883.4475
1584	LES_int_01	1883.4739	No.	1883.8778
1586		1884.1221	They were fine. We took our cats to another place on Christie.	1887.2392
1587	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1887.2392	Yeah.	1887.5377
1588	LES_int_01	1888.0514	Just south of Houston.	1889.2104
1589	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1889.2104	Yeah.	1889.5397
1590	LES_int_01	1889.5397	And I didn't like that vet. He wasn't-	1891.1055
1592		1891.7026	he wasn't very nice.	1892.8441
1593	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1893.5860	How expensive was the one	1895.2061
1595		1895.3729	on Fourth [Street?]	1896.0852
1596	LES_int_01	1895.8657	[ I think] it was, they were similar. It was like, you know like a sixty dollars for a visit or something like that. [/inaudible/]	1901.7788
1597	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1900.2208	[Yeah, how much is the bloodwork?]	1901.9105
1598	LES_int_01	1902.1871	Ah, we've never done that with our cats. Our cats haven't had- knew that we- ta- have taken them for like a check up or	1907.3704
1600		1907.6162	like a cold, where it would	1908.6172
1602		1908.9597	give 'em a-	1909.4382
1604		1909.6138	you know.	1909.9255
1605	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1909.9255	Mm-hm. How many cats you have?	1911.2979
1606	LES_int_01	1911.2979	Two.	1911.5438
1607	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1912.5301	Eh.	1912.8506
1608	LES_int_01	1912.8506	But, they're young. So, they haven't gotten really sick.	1914.4750
1609	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1914.8921	[Oh.] You don't know [if you don't change] their diet, they will be getting [sick.]	1919.2626
1610	LES_int_01	1915.2104	[Yeah.]	1915.6007
1612		1916.7777	[I know.]	1917.1753
1614		1919.1133	[I] know.	1919.6402
1615		1919.8951	I [know.]	1920.3262
1616	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1920.1937	[Cat] balls and	1921.1815
1617		1921.3439	They get- they	1922.0969
1619		1922.2461	You have to vaccinate them. I mean, she told me ninety-two dollars [for]	1925.5904
1620	LES_int_01	1925.2348	[Oh.]	1925.9197
1621	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1926.0909	for the whole thing.	1926.8812
1622	LES_int_01	1926.9339	Oh.	1927.5222
1623	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1928.1240	E-	1928.2601
1625		1928.4884	[I mean, i-]	1928.9625
1626	LES_int_01	1928.4884	[Yeah.]	1928.9625
1627	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1930.0382	[Animals] are- that's why I don't have a cat now.	1932.0518
1628	LES_int_01	1930.0382	[/inaudible/]	1930.4082
1629	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1932.3108	[I had] a cat, Sarah Anne, for seventeen [years.]	1934.5806
1630	LES_int_01	1932.3108	[Yeah.]	1932.7279
1632		1934.4489	[Oh.]	1935.6650
1633	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1935.8055	And Miss Thing is	1937.3669
1635		1937.5601	she took	1938.1220
1637		1938.4074	I'm spoiled to a new art form.	1940.1898
1638	LES_int_01	1940.3435	<laugh>	1941.6565
1639	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1941.4499	But now, everyone is talking about.	1942.9947
1640		1943.1615	See here.	1943.6488
1642		1944.0851	This is /RD-NAME-1/	1945.3407
1644		1945.7446	Oh God, this man is always sending me something. Him.	1948.1110
1646		1949.9203	[I get all this-]	1950.5042
1647	LES_int_01	1950.1706	[/RD-NAME-4/] I recognize that name.	1952.5413
1648	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1952.7499	I know you do.	1953.4655
1649	LES_int_01	1956.0233	Yeah, this is about the-	1957.1730
1651		1957.5550	the Chinatown rezoning.	1958.9774
1652	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1958.9774	Mm-hm.	1959.6667
1653		1960.4394	It's not the Chinatown rezoning. It's the Lower East Side [rezoning.]	1963.8166
1654	LES_int_01	1962.9151	[No, but now they're] t- they're thinking of reze-	1965.0371
1655		1965.4197	working on Chinatown rezoning, right?	1967.3866
1657		1967.5051	[That was.]	1967.9661
1658	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1967.7071	[Well] no. Chinatown was not included.	1969.9665
1659	LES_int_01	1970.0104	I know.	1970.3353
1660	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1970.6295	And now, they're gonna expand it [because,]	1972.3636
1661	LES_int_01	1972.0005	[Right.]	1972.2244
1662	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1972.8993	um.	1973.3734
1664		1973.7246	It was originally from	1975.0254
1666		1975.7147	Thirteenth Street.	1976.6366
1668		1977.8249	To uh	1979.0761
1670		1979.9981	Thirteenth Street	1980.7839
1672		1981.0034	to, uh	1981.9254
1674		1985.4014	Thirteenth Street	1986.1170
1676		1986.3848	from Third Avenue to the river,	1987.8248
1678		1988.6267	all the way to Grant Street. I think	1990.2380
1680		1993.0653	And we- and we had	1994.3259
1682		1994.7825	and I had to learn about zoning.	1996.6505
1684		1996.8173	And about	1997.3749
1686		1998.5910	Oh god.	1999.2759
1687	LES_int_01	1999.5158	[Wow.]	2000.0022
1688	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	1999.7924	I- I had to learn about that, and I got very annoyed.	2002.2466
1689	LES_int_01	2002.3739	Yeah.	2002.9007
1691		2003.9061	Now, /RD-NAME-2/ from goals, I think is	2006.1052
1693		2006.2501	the one who gave me your contact info. She said that you were also knowledgeable about	2010.2557
1695		2010.6816	one of the issues that I've been involved with, which is the Seward Park Urban Renewal Site.	2015.0844
1696	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2015.2644	<ts> Originally,	2015.9932
1698		2017.0337	that land was cleared	2017.9732
1700		2018.2103	because they	2018.8867
1702		2019.3521	promised that we're gonna have low income.	2020.8261
1703	LES_int_01	2021.3134	Yeah.	2021.5768
1704	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2022.0773	Sheldon Silver don't wanna put nothing- low income there.	2024.2066
1705	LES_int_01	2025.5671	Is that how you see it?	2026.3880
1706	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2026.3880	No, that's how it is.	2027.4198
1707	LES_int_01	2027.4198	Yeah.	2027.8580
1708	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2028.0761	It's been baking for thirty five years. Sheldon Silver does not wanna put anything low income there.	2032.2439
1710		2032.6434	Because, it's been my	2033.8726
1712		2034.0131	I mean, I heard that	2034.9746
1714		2036.1852	developers	2037.0238
1716		2037.2784	who do low income and	2038.5428
1718		2039.4746	high end income	2040.4493
1720		2041.1034	offered to do a fifty-fifty.	2042.5171
1722		2042.9517	He didn't want it.	2043.5751
1723	LES_int_01	2044.0898	/??/	2044.6806
1724	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2044.9776	When they went to um.	2046.7123
1725	LES_int_01	2046.6728	And do you think he's representing	2048.4168
1726		2048.8032	some constituents in the neighborhood [that.]	2050.7964
1727	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2050.5417	[Yeah.] The Co-ops.	2051.6788
1728		2052.4851	Those are the ones, I mean, they were ugly.	2054.5749
1730		2054.7549	The- we- we had our special, uh,	2056.4013
1732		2056.8139	public hearing about it.	2058.0404
1734		2058.4444	They hired	2059.1863
1736		2059.3356	[every private] c- this was the-	2061.6932
1737	LES_int_01	2059.7075	[This was in.]	2060.3265
1739		2061.2278	[two thousand] three?	2062.4000
1740	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2062.5098	Yeah.	2062.8829
1741	LES_int_01	2062.8845	I [read about] it. Yeah.	2064.1720
1742	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2062.9954	[They hi-]	2063.4081
1743		2064.2159	They hired	2064.8613
1745		2065.0062	every	2065.5550
1747		2065.6472	private	2066.0949
1749		2066.1828	cab company and they came in droves. There had to be about	2068.6325
1751		2068.9794	thousands of them	2070.0243
1753		2070.3641	in that community room.	2071.4660
1755		2071.7334	In that- ar- auditorium, PS Twenty.	2073.9373
1756	LES_int_01	2074.0164	You were there?	2074.5871
1757	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2074.6969	Yeah, the only reason I got in, I grabbed hold of Alan Gerson's	2077.6384
1759		2078.0949	um,	2078.4418
1761		2078.5456	one of his-	2079.5115
1763		2080.0076	his aids,	2080.9691
1765		2081.3554	by the back of this	2082.0710
1767		2082.2071	man's pants.	2083.1071
1769		2083.4847	And when	2084.2003
1771		2084.7739	we went- when- when he moved,	2086.3237
1773		2086.7013	we all moved together.	2087.8735
1775		2088.3432	Like, you know,	2088.9535
1777		2089.9588	Like a [caterpillar.]	2090.7915
1778	LES_int_01	2090.6642	[Because] it was so crowded?	2091.8583
1779	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2092.7452	And I had to end up sitting on the floor.	2094.1325
1780	LES_int_01	2095.4188	What do you remember about that meeting?	2096.7163
1781	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2096.7163	It was ugly.	2097.2827
1782		2098.2573	Alan didn't show u p.	2099.1251
1784		2101.0699	<ts> It was ugly.	2101.6100
1786		2101.8865	<ts> And they gonna tell us what for.	2103.3266
1788		2104.0422	<ts>	2104.1475
1790		2104.5383	If you have low income people in a certain area, it's a ghetto.	2107.3948
1792		2108.3300	We don't want those people there.	2109.4451
1793	LES_int_01	2112.3631	Yeah.	2112.7143
1794	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2112.9646	Mm-hm.	2113.3158
1795	LES_int_01	2114.5539	And what do you think about, uh, the situation now with that site?	2118.3060
1796	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2120.2026	Same problem.	2120.8744
1797	LES_int_01	2122.3846	Has anything changed?	2123.4822
1799		2123.8729	I mean the- has the fact that the	2125.5368
1801		2125.7256	composition of the neighborhood in terms of the people	2128.0546
1802	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2128.1512	[Probably,]	2128.6254
1803	LES_int_01	2128.2774	[I mean.]	2128.5671
1804	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2128.9546	probably [give you.]	2129.6922
1805	LES_int_01	2129.2433	[Co-ops]	2129.9688
1806		2130.0961	are now	2130.7151
1808		2130.9434	market rate, so there's new people moving in there,	2133.3219
1810		2133.8706	Do you think that could [change?]	2135.2430
1811	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2134.9199	[Yeah.] Of course, I mean,	2136.1448
1812		2136.4210	they're gonna push who keep they market value	2138.6932
1814		2139.1893	They're selfish people. We call them the Klan of the Lower East Side.	2141.6961
1815	LES_int_01	2141.9557	The Klan?	2142.5220
1816	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2142.5264	Mm-hm.	2143.0269
1817	LES_int_01	2143.2289	<laugh>	2143.6986
1818	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2143.9401	The only thing that they don't wear sheets.	2145.3625
1820		2145.7884	I'm [serious,] these people are [outrageous.]	2147.8090
1821	LES_int_01	2146.0300	[Yeah.]	2146.3238
1823		2147.6773	[Oh.]	2148.2656
1824		2149.3149	And so, if it were up to [you.]	2150.5721
1825	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2150.2253	[They] wanna protect their investment at all costs.	2152.8419
1826	LES_int_01	2153.0131	[Yeah.]	2153.3292
1827	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2153.1229	[They] don't want any low income	2154.6814
1828		2155.5536	or	2155.9268
1830		2157.0990	low-middle income.	2158.4117
1832		2159.0395	See, the low-middle income people are	2161.2419
1834		2161.3648	not on anybody's radar.	2162.8136
1835	LES_int_01	2163.3273	The moderate kind of.	2164.4819
1836	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2164.5741	Yeah, [because] they make more money.	2166.6551
1837	LES_int_01	2165.1917	[Right.]	2165.5320
1838	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2167.4298	<ts> If you single and you making over twenty-nine thousand,	2170.0690
1840		2171.4388	Then you don't fit in any category.	2172.9729
1842		2174.4184	[You m-] You're not. You make too much money for the [land program.]	2177.1264
1843	LES_int_01	2174.4184	[Yeah.]	2174.7217
1845		2176.2250	[Too much,] but not [enough.]	2178.2968
1846	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2177.5702	[Enough.]	2177.9936
1847		2178.4087	Yeah.	2178.7024
1849		2178.9216	Mm-hm.	2179.4485
1850	LES_int_01	2180.1013	So, if it were up to you, what would you build on that site? What would i- what would you like to see?	2184.0796
1851	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2185.3526	Some	2185.8419
1853		2185.9491	buildings, some co-ops	2187.2920
1855		2187.6184	and condos for people	2189.1478
1857		2190.5089	in that specific category.	2191.8705
1858	LES_int_01	2192.5361	That moderate.	2193.2169
1859	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2193.3288	Yeah, because they don't have anything.	2194.9375
1860	LES_int_01	2196.3317	Mm-hm.	2196.7094
1862		2197.4089	What do you think of mixed models of like low, moderate, and middle	2200.4013
1864		2201.5390	all together?	2202.1592
1865	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2202.1592	If it's done right.	2202.9379
1866		2203.1244	But very rarely is it done right.	2204.5268
1867	LES_int_01	2204.6201	Mm-hm.	2204.8998
1868	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2204.8998	And I seen it done right	2206.0842
1869		2206.2754	in only one place.	2207.2453
1870	LES_int_01	2207.4225	Where?	2207.7442
1871	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2208.3224	In Denmark.	2209.1664
1872	LES_int_01	2209.5021	Ah.	2209.8378
1873	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2210.6154	In Copenhagen.	2211.3102
1875		2213.0914	<ts> And the bui- and the name of the- of the place was Christiania.	2216.1975
1877		2217.9263	<ts> That's right. Where they sell the- the drugs.	2220.2298
1879		2220.9899	They [actually] had a	2222.4307
1880	LES_int_01	2221.2929	[Oh.]	2221.6240
1881	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2222.7478	example	2223.3994
1883		2223.5393	of	2223.8517
1885		2224.6957	residents who took over a barracks	2226.5888
1887		2227.1344	who actually developed the barracks.	2229.0742
1889		2229.3062	And was there thirty-five, maybe forty years. I think- I heard they kicked 'em out though.	2232.4769
1891		2233.2836	I don't know	2233.6903
1893		2233.8255	what happened to them, but.	2234.9285
1895		2235.5533	They had actually had	2236.5978
1897		2237.3019	private houses on one side	2239.0738
1899		2239.5914	and they had uh, middle income here, low income there.	2242.8955
1901		2244.1842	But, the [apartments] weren't- and then everybody lives	2246.0260
1902	LES_int_01	2244.4640	[So,]	2244.7577
1904		2245.6250	[It could] be done.	2246.3758
1905	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2246.3758	Yeah.	2246.7208
1906	LES_int_01	2246.9027	But, it's hard.	2247.5275
1907	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2248.2363	If it's done right.	2248.9497
1908	LES_int_01	2249.1269	Yeah.	2249.4719
1910		2250.6843	What about any commercial things? Would you- would you wanna see a commercial space?	2254.0879
1911	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2254.1811	Mm-hm.	2254.5530
1912	LES_int_01	2254.5922	On that site?	2255.1825
1913	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2255.2291	Mm-hm.	2255.5742
1914	LES_int_01	2256.1850	What kind?	2256.6700
1915	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2260.1937	Well.	2260.5668
1916	LES_int_01	2261.2662	Home Depot, Mom and Pop, you know, something in between?	2264.3997
1917	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2264.6841	I would like to see a combination	2265.9186
1919		2266.2170	of Home Depot and Mom and Pop.	2267.9843
1920	LES_int_01	2269.5464	Mm-hm.	2269.8401
1921	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2270.5162	See.	2270.7401
1923		2270.8939	Yeah.	2271.1504
1925		2271.2576	Um.	2271.6109
1927		2272.4875	But, different types of mom and pops.	2274.1288
1928	LES_int_01	2274.3387	Uh-huh.	2274.6884
1929	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2275.5464	Like a um.	2277.2203
1931		2278.6030	If you're gonna do a Home Depot,	2279.8902
1933		2280.2679	then we need a extensive	2281.9186
1935		2282.1004	um	2282.4281
1937		2284.6185	discount	2285.1967
1939		2286.4511	medical	2287.0806
1941		2288.0178	supply and	2289.3234
1943		2290.1476	beauty.	2290.5952
1944	LES_int_01	2291.3693	Right.	2291.6770
1945	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2291.9148	Yeah. So we can get our nail polish [and makeup and]	2295.2301
1946	LES_int_01	2293.5160	[<laugh>]	2294.3349
1948		2294.7732	[That's right.]	2295.4633
1949	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2295.7384	and our hair products and our	2297.4719
1951		2297.9708	and our- by- and have a Body Works. A Body Shop there.	2300.5074
1953		2300.6939	[Our] Body Works.	2301.7011
1954	LES_int_01	2300.6939	[Hm.]	2300.9970
1955		2301.7011	Mm-hm.	2302.0228
1956	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2302.3807	Yes.	2303.0522
1958		2303.6910	And a Whole Foods.	2304.6982
1959	LES_int_01	2305.7112	You'd like that?	2306.3023
1960	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2306.7140	Well, yeah, I would like	2307.5375
1962		2307.6903	that and	2308.8990
1964		2310.1203	Whole Food and uh, maybe uh	2312.3232
1966		2312.4392	Farmer's Market.	2313.4155
1967	LES_int_01	2314.0093	Mm-hm.	2314.4347
1968	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2315.0753	So we can come there and get our vegetables that's reasonable.	2317.3909
1969	LES_int_01	2317.5007	Yeah.	2317.8180
1970	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2318.1414	<ts>	2318.2757
1972		2318.5259	I've been trying to get /RD-NAME-3/ who's husband	2320.7017
1974		2320.8909	is a farmer	2321.5194
1976		2321.8795	bring down some of her vegetables, sell it outside of University Place, and she [tell me no.]	2326.7572
1977	LES_int_01	2326.0432	[Oh.]	2326.4826
1978	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2326.8670	University sell, but she told me no. It wouldn't	2328.8243
1980		2329.8129	they would't pay her to do that.	2331.3079
1981	LES_int_01	2331.4970	Oh, too bad.	2332.7699
1982	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2333.0445	Cause her husband is a farmer.	2334.5467
1983	LES_int_01	2335.0044	Oh, that's great.	2335.8099
1985		2336.8594	Well, you have the Essex Street Market not too far away.	2339.3491
1987		2340.1578	Right?	2340.4934
1988	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2340.6611	Yeah.	2341.0455
1989	LES_int_01	2341.3416	/That's good/.	2341.8542
1990	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2343.3614	Produce.	2343.8130
1991	LES_int_01	2343.8923	Yeah, you can get produce right?	2345.1472
1992	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2345.6964	It's not the same.	2346.3615
1993	LES_int_01	2346.4836	It's not.	2346.9901
1994	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2348.0454	Farmer's Market	2348.9058
1995	LES_int_01	2348.9790	Yeah.	2349.3146
1996	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2349.9248	place for someone who farms.	2351.0537
1997	LES_int_01	2351.0537	Right.	2351.3649
1999		2351.6883	They truck it in that morning or whatever.	2353.5083
2000	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2354.0148	Mm-hm.	2354.5396
2001	LES_int_01	2354.5396	Yeah.	2354.8203
2003		2356.4739	So, with this SPURA Site, I mean what do you think's gonna happen there? Do you	2359.8223
2005		2360.0664	do you feel.	2360.9451
2006	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2361.3309	You mean with that little [area?]	2362.4537
2007	LES_int_01	2362.2462	[Yeah.] Do you feel that there's any hope?	2363.9731
2008	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2364.0646	If [they don't.]	2364.8640
2009	LES_int_01	2364.3514	[For like hope] for [/inaudible/]	2366.4810
2010	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2365.5901	[There would be hope] if they wou- if it wasn't for Sheldon Silver, but because he is	2369.6847
2011		2370.3071	reigning over that, and his-	2371.5893
2013		2371.7540	and his	2372.4070
2015		2372.8646	constituents	2373.9325
2017		2374.3780	are the co-ops.	2375.3116
2018	LES_int_01	2375.3848	Yeah.	2375.8364
2019	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2376.6362	<ts> This man has a enormous-	2378.2689
2021		2379.1903	enormous amount of power.	2380.5145
2022	LES_int_01	2380.5145	Yeah.	2381.0035
2024		2381.4917	He really does.	2382.2788
2025	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2382.2788	A lot of power.	2383.3528
2026	LES_int_01	2383.5481	Yeah.	2383.9142
2027	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2384.2559	People don't realize how powerful he is.	2386.0009
2028	LES_int_01	2386.0194	That's true.	2386.6294
2029	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2387.9597	Excuse me.	2388.4110
2031		2388.7344	[I'm'a get my water.]	2389.4911
2032	LES_int_01	2388.9114	[/inaudible/]	2389.2470
2033	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2389.8938	Mayor Bloomberg- Oh. Can I offer you some water?	2391.7453
2034	LES_int_01	2392.0601	No, I'm fine, thank you.	2393.1571
2035	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2393.3585	Mayor Bloomberg is uh, pow-	2395.2807
2037		2395.6407	thought he was powerful until he ran up against Shel- Sheldon Silver and you saw what real power was.	2400.0039
2038	LES_int_01	2400.0832	Yeah.	2400.6290
2039	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2401.1171	But.	2401.2941
2041		2401.8555	Power	2402.4779
2043		2402.7098	corrupts. Absolutely.	2403.8963
2044	LES_int_01	2404.0671	Yeah.	2404.4760
2045	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2405.9140	He doesn't want any low income near us, which would put a further strain on the community.	2410.6210
2046	LES_int_01	2410.9688	Right.	2411.2434
2047	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2411.2434	It would further destroy the Lower East Side.	2413.0617
2048	LES_int_01	2415.2341	What do you- What's your opinion about	2416.6120
2050		2416.8073	about building height	2417.9484
2052		2418.4244	in developments in the community? Like- or on that site in particular.	2421.8688
2054		2422.6133	Do you have	2423.1198
2056		2423.3028	[parti-]	2423.5704
2057	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2423.3212	[No.] I don't want	2424.4492
2058		2424.5715	we don't- we don't w- need any twenty three story buildings. [No.]	2427.1263
2059	LES_int_01	2426.9860	[Okay.]	2427.2606
2060		2427.6023	Okay. So you'd think that something's too tall.	2429.5403
2061	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2429.5403	Yeah.	2429.8881
2062		2430.2316	Definitely.	2430.7747
2063	LES_int_01	2431.0554	Mm.	2431.3422
2064	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2432.0989	You know.	2432.3979
2065	LES_int_01	2433.1017	Yeah.	2433.3580
2066	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2434.0719	We need uh,	2435.0178
2068		2436.5507	six story,	2437.3806
2070		2437.5454	seven the most.	2438.6630
2072		2438.9682	[Eight] the most.	2439.6882
2073	LES_int_01	2438.9682	[Yeah.]	2439.1817
2074		2439.9323	Okay.	2440.1907
2075	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2440.9046	But,	2441.2256
2077		2441.4904	you can't have	2442.4912
2079		2442.8268	inclusion area zoning unless they're	2444.6645
2081		2445.0123	higher.	2445.4761
2082	LES_int_01	2446.2572	Yeah.	2446.6218
2084		2447.3541	So w- is that a tradeoff that you are willing to take [part in? Like] the- you can go a little higher if you get some more affordable [units?]	2453.5513
2085	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2449.8621	[Yeah.]	2450.4174
2087		2453.0346	[Mm-hm.]	2453.4624
2088	LES_int_01	2453.8586	Yeah.	2454.1337
2089	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2454.4754	Mm-hm.	2454.7622
2091		2455.3339	Especially for people like you and your husband.	2457.2560
2092	LES_int_01	2457.4696	Yeah.	2457.8968
2093	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2457.8968	Who are not making a lot a lot of money.	2460.1179
2094	LES_int_01	2460.9173	No.	2461.2041
2095	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2461.4665	But, y'all cannot	2462.6276
2097		2462.8106	find an apartment	2463.9029
2099		2464.0433	that you'd be happy with	2465.3491
2101		2465.7493	based- that you can afford.	2466.9846
2102	LES_int_01	2467.1981	[No.]	2467.5948
2103	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2467.3873	[Can] you?	2467.8572
2104	LES_int_01	2468.0158	No.	2468.3820
2105	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2468.9067	You stuck out there with nothing.	2470.0926
2107		2471.8501	And at you and your husband's salary, you should be able to buy your first little condo.	2476.3371
2108	LES_int_01	2477.3989	Not gonna happen.	2478.2257
2109	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2478.4027	Uh- yeah. You need to [tell Sheldon Silver]	2480.4530
2110	LES_int_01	2479.6475	[You'd think we would.]	2480.7093
2111	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2480.8314	You need to tell Sheldon [Silver. Write] him a letter.	2483.1554
2112	LES_int_01	2482.2401	[Yeah.]	2482.7465
2113	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2483.2896	[Dear sir,]	2484.0097
2114	LES_int_01	2483.2896	[Yeah.]	2483.6680
2115	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2484.3392	my name is so and so and so and so. I am an anthropologist, my husband is a da da da.	2488.7929
2117		2489.2567	We make da da da. We cannot afford to buy.	2491.9406
2119		2493.1855	There's nothing out there for us.	2494.7293
2120	LES_int_01	2494.7293	Yeah.	2495.1076
2121	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2495.2768	Would you consider allowing	2497.0647
2123		2497.2295	that land to be developed some um, condos that we could buy?	2500.7219
2124	LES_int_01	2500.9294	Yeah.	2501.2406
2125	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2501.4786	I'm serious.	2501.9789
2127		2502.7590	I would write him.	2503.3021
2128	LES_int_01	2504.1991	So you- so you think there's a possibility that-	2506.4330
2130		2507.9036	that the	2508.2087
2132		2508.3735	tide could change a little bit.	2509.8933
2134		2510.2595	That things could move down there?	2511.6690
2135	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2513.9879	Not as long as Sheldon Silver is there.	2515.5078
2137		2515.8434	<ts> As long as people in the co-ops are like they are. And those people are a /bull/ over there.	2519.1459
2138	LES_int_01	2519.3412	Yeah.	2519.7012
2139	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2520.1711	Not all of them, but a significant number of them.	2522.1176
2140	LES_int_01	2522.2641	Yeah.	2522.5631
2141	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2523.3238	<ts> And very selfish.	2524.5844
2142	LES_int_01	2525.2007	Mm-hm,	2525.4997
2143	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2526.2381	They think they're better than everybody else.	2527.7819
2144	LES_int_01	2528.7920	Right.	2529.2619
2145	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2530.6348	I see 'em.	2531.4952
2147		2533.3837	Unless the community really comes together, and I mean really comes together and really gets ugly and say look. Uh.	2538.5268
2149		2539.9447	Finds a law, a loophole, a something to strong arm	2543.3864
2151		2544.9630	Silver,	2545.6220
2153		2545.9760	into doing it,	2546.7448
2155		2548.5266	not gonna do it.	2549.3016
2156	LES_int_01	2549.4359	Yeah.	2549.7166
2157	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2550.3165	Cause those people over there.	2551.6407
2158	LES_int_01	2554.3401	Do you think it's important for people to know about the history of that site?	2557.4895
2159	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2558.0631	Yes it is.	2558.7710
2160	LES_int_01	2559.1920	And the history of the neighborhood kind of in general?	2561.2057
2161	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2561.3827	Mm-hm.	2561.8653
2162	LES_int_01	2562.6036	Like the new folks that are moving in.	2563.9949
2163	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2564.4282	Mm-hm.	2564.8962
2164	LES_int_01	2568.2219	It [has.]	2568.5636
2165	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2568.4416	[If] that will matter to them.	2569.9644
2166	LES_int_01	2570.1109	Yeah.	2570.5990
2167	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2571.0323	But you see, you have a lot of people that moving in that they don't care	2574.2420
2169		2574.4373	what the history of the place is. All they want is their immediate gratification.	2578.0670
2171		2578.4540	<ts> I'm here.	2579.2107
2173		2579.6928	This is my apartment.	2580.9434
2175		2581.5964	I live here.	2582.4507
2176	LES_int_01	2584.5750	Right.	2584.8536
2177	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2584.8536	In the summers, I'm at the Hamptons, I'm in Europe, blah blah, you know what I mean?	2588.2057
2178	LES_int_01	2588.4498	Yeah.	2588.7427
2179	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2589.2858	They're not interested in the history.	2591.0483
2180	LES_int_01	2591.4083	[Yeah.]	2591.6707
2181	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2591.5182	[Very] few people will be.	2593.0254
2182	LES_int_01	2594.1864	Mm-hm.	2594.5404
2183	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2595.0713	Until something bites them.	2596.7371
2184	LES_int_01	2597.1643	<laugh>	2597.8538
2185	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2598.1947	We have a hurricane and they're flooded out.	2600.1474
2186	LES_int_01	2601.3373	Mm-hm.	2601.7507
2187	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2602.0131	Cause you know, if we- if we get hit with a hurricane, what's gonna happen the- here.	2604.9740
2189		2605.1509	[Right?]	2605.3828
2190	LES_int_01	2605.1509	[Yeah.] We're low.	2606.0113
2191	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2607.3904	<ts> All of this is gonna be flooded.	2608.6946
2192	LES_int_01	2608.7983	Yeah.	2609.1095
2193	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2610.0432	Mm.	2610.2018
2194	LES_int_01	2611.4552	Um.	2611.9006
2196		2612.2714	Okay. I have-	2612.7795
2198		2613.0845	I think I have two more questions for you. The first is, uh	2616.8290
2200		2617.6623	if you	2618.4129
2202		2618.9499	plan to stay in the neighborhood?	2620.4022
2204		2623.5681	Do you wanna stay here you know? I-	2625.0692
2206		2625.3194	Do you wanna continue living here?	2626.6069
2207	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2628.5699	We have a contract	2629.5706
2209		2630.9802	that expires two thousand nineteen.	2633.0489
2210	LES_int_01	2633.2197	Yeah.	2633.5798
2212		2634.9478	And you'll stay here til then.	2636.1683
2213	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2636.3696	Mm-hm.	2636.7602
2214	LES_int_01	2636.8639	And then wha- and then what?	2637.9867
2215	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2639.4634	And then we'll have to leave.	2640.6239
2218		2640.9224	Because	2641.3679
2220		2642.8873	the federal government	2643.7477
2222		2644.9010	is	2645.2332
2224		2645.5505	does not	2646.1729
2226		2646.7677	make the landlords stay in the program. They can't.	2649.3123
2228		2649.8493	He can leave the program. And I know	2651.4211
2230		2651.7445	if things	2652.4950
2232		2653.1053	continue	2653.6850
2234		2654.0511	to go up in this neighborhood the way they've been going up,	2656.5055
2235	LES_int_01	2656.7801	Yeah.	2657.0730
2236	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2657.1280	<ts> more luxury than anything else.	2658.6108
2238		2659.1478	The landlord will be encouraged to,	2661.1310
2240		2662.3915	if not sooner,	2663.2634
2242		2663.8004	find some way to either end the contract, or when it ended, you know you going.	2667.3806
2244		2668.5798	And he's gonna change the use of the building so that you	2670.6790
2246		2671.0451	tha- you can't- you can't use the voucher here	2673.0140
2248		2673.7584	to stay here.	2674.3015
2249	LES_int_01	2676.9673	So, you'll be- you'd like to stay	2679.1420
2251		2679.2702	in the lo-	2679.6302
2253		2679.9719	long term, but you're gonna.	2681.0581
2254	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2681.3205	[Yeah.]	2681.5589
2255	LES_int_01	2681.3205	[Sounds] like you'll be forced to	2682.6939
2256	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2683.1455	Well.	2683.4933
2257	LES_int_01	2683.4933	[go somewhere else.]	2684.6100
2258	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2683.7191	[Unless the co-]	2684.6161
2259		2687.1360	Unless	2687.5693
2261		2687.7645	of course	2688.4236
2263		2688.5578	you come into a lot of money.	2689.9369
2264	LES_int_01	2690.3630	<laugh> [Yeah.]	2691.3699
2265	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2690.9893	[Cause] this area	2691.8519
2266		2691.9679	so far is very rich, unless something drastic happens.	2695.0197
2267	LES_int_01	2695.2882	Mm-hm.	2695.6665
2269		2695.9350	Mm-hm.	2696.1974
2270	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2697.6680	And then you may not wanna live here.	2699.1386
2271	LES_int_01	2699.4621	<laugh>	2700.3280
2272	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2701.4388	So it's rough. (sighing)	2702.7813
2273	LES_int_01	2702.7813	Do you still wanna live here given the- the things that you've talked about in terms of the changes, the	2707.7763
2275		2707.9838	changing character of the neighborhood?	2709.8611
2277		2710.2456	Is it still a place where you-	2711.7345
2279		2712.2776	That you consider home? And that you	2713.7433
2280	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2714.0423	[Well]	2714.4940
2281	LES_int_01	2714.0423	[like?]	2714.5183
2282	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2714.6220	Yeah, I mean, I'm here.	2716.0438
2284		2716.5686	I understand it.	2717.4473
2286		2717.7829	I know how to get things done.	2719.0949
2287	LES_int_01	2719.7418	Mm-hm.	2720.0286
2288	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2720.7974	So far.	2721.3466
2290		2721.9691	Um.	2722.4687
2292		2723.0301	When that changes completely,	2724.7326
2294		2725.0072	then I'll be ready to leave.	2726.1056
2295	LES_int_01	2726.4135	Okay.	2726.7308
2297		2727.7925	Okay.	2728.0793
2298	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2728.2319	Yeah.	2728.4943
2299	LES_int_01	2728.9764	Um. Okay. So my last question then is um,	2731.8022
2301		2732.0463	<ts>	2732.2049
2303		2732.8762	If you could	2733.3643
2305		2733.6850	think ahead ten years or twenty years.	2735.6391
2307		2735.8405	I- I'm interested in where you think the neighborhood's going.	2738.0046
2309		2738.3036	What do you think it's gonna be like in ten years?	2740.0976
2310	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2741.6223	If i-	2742.0068
2312		2742.2875	nothing changes, and it goes in the same	2744.4964
2314		2745.0456	direction it's going now.	2746.2356
2316		2747.0166	Then it'll be predominantly white	2748.4037
2318		2748.8369	and predominantly rich.	2749.9658
2319	LES_int_01	2750.0756	Mm-hm.	2750.5272
2321		2752.1626	And you th- do you think that's gonna happen?	2753.6332
2322	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2753.7735	Mm-hm.	2754.1255
2324		2754.4429	Very easily happen. Yeah, sure.	2755.8158
2325	LES_int_01	2756.1637	Yeah.	2756.4688
2326	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2758.4886	You see, if you offer people enough money,	2760.9120
2328		2761.2415	everybody has their price as they say.	2762.9383
2330		2763.9330	Like Common Ground.	2764.8056
2331	LES_int_01	2765.3181	Yeah.	2765.5500
2332	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2765.5500	Common Ground is determined to get rid of housing.	2767.9728
2333		2768.3753	I mean, get rid of	2769.1745
2335		2769.2904	homelessness.	2769.9677
2336	LES_int_01	2770.4010	Mm.	2770.6390
2337	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2771.1760	Okay.	2771.5482
2339		2772.4459	Let's say	2773.1748
2341		2774.6271	they wanted to	2775.6888
2343		2776.2319	buy this building and that one.	2777.6720
2344	LES_int_01	2780.3408	Mm-hm.	2780.6215
2345	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2782.1349	Now, if they bought Ricky's building for a hundred and seventy million,	2785.4544
2347		2787.0350	uh-huh. You get the point?	2788.2127
2349		2789.8847	How much are they willing to pay	2791.4502
2351		2792.4327	for these two?	2793.0734
2352	LES_int_01	2793.3114	Yeah.	2793.5799
2353	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2794.4464	Two hundred million?	2795.1298
2355		2795.9353	Do you think Common Ground would sell?	2797.3270
2357		2799.0173	Huh?	2799.1882
2358	LES_int_01	2799.4872	Yeah.	2799.8106
2359	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2800.0425	Uh-huh.	2800.5550
2361		2802.5127	[A hundred million.]	2803.5981
2362	LES_int_01	2802.6950	[So]	2803.0550
2364		2803.2564	[So you] s- so you see the- the gentrification continuing?	2806.4234
2365	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2807.8597	As long as there's a marketplace for it.	2810.2883
2366	LES_int_01	2810.3982	Yeah.	2810.7094
2367	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2811.2219	The market doesn't change? No.	2812.6743
2369		2812.9183	Cause these markets m-	2813.7951
2371		2814.0087	change every place else but New York.	2815.4671
2372	LES_int_01	2815.7173	I know.	2816.4068
2374		2818.1215	It's true.	2818.7135
2375	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2818.7745	See, what annoys me is the roommates. These white people come in with they- with they goddamn roommates.	2823.3498
2376	LES_int_01	2823.7465	Right.	2824.0516
2377	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2824.1553	And they ruin it. They- they- they	2825.8639
2379		2826.1080	move into these a- buildings	2827.6964
2381		2828.0686	with they goddamn roommates. Everybody pays a thousand dollars or fifteen hundred dollars	2831.9069
2383		2832.4866	and nobody is holding anybody accountable.	2835.2113
2384	LES_int_01	2835.5347	Mm-hm.	2835.9375
2385	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2836.1022	And we have to suffer because	2838.0691
2387		2838.3803	they	2838.9539
2389		2839.4787	ha- must have some place to live	2841.0591
2391		2841.3314	cause they wanna live on the Lower East Side and they're willing to pay anything to do so.	2844.8462
2392	LES_int_01	2845.0537	Right.	2845.4625
2393	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2845.9995	And um, they don't.	2847.4274
2395		2847.5677	And then once they get in there, the landlord screws 'em royally.	2850.7672
2397		2851.1368	He goes from a yearly lease to month to month	2853.4676
2399		2854.6819	because you complained about something.	2856.5306
2400	LES_int_01	2857.1591	Right.	2857.4886
2401	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2858.5443	I've seen that scenarios play out in the GOAL's office so many times. They come in there crying.	2862.6359
2402	LES_int_01	2864.0617	Do they?	2864.4645
2403	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2864.7844	Yeah. And they w- actually wanna have the nerve to use somebody else	2868.3009
2405		2868.6426	use	2869.0210
2407		2869.4542	low income people to help them fight their cause.	2871.4697
2409		2871.7565	Because they know they rich bitch people ain't gonna help them.	2873.9370
2410	LES_int_01	2874.2055	Mm.	2874.8096
2411	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2875.1514	So, they're selfish. They are ve- i- these kids, young people coming in the build- are selfish.	2879.6330
2412	LES_int_01	2879.6330	Mm-hm. Mm-hm.	2880.6276
2413	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2880.7435	I mean very selfish. All they wanna do is go to work, and hang out at the bars, and come home.	2884.5540
2415		2885.5060	Or go to dinner. They don't cook.	2886.9491
2417		2889.0278	They wanna go to the bars after work,	2891.1994
2418	LES_int_01	2891.3947	Yeah.	2891.7242
2419	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2891.8279	or	2892.2063
2421		2892.6700	on the weekends.	2893.5365
2423		2895.5549	Right? And then on family days, to either going to their mother's or father who don't live here.	2899.6494
2424	LES_int_01	2900.2047	Mm-hm.	2900.7325
2425	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2901.2453	Mm-hm.	2901.5565
2427		2901.8372	Summer vacation, Europe.	2903.0515
2428	LES_int_01	2903.4124	<laugh>	2904.1338
2429	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2904.4999	Yeah.	2904.7562
2431		2906.3000	They're not interested in no community. They're not interested in building or changing anything.	2909.7782
2432	LES_int_01	2910.0223	Mm-hm.	2910.3946
2433	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2910.7851	No.	2911.0266
2435		2911.9968	They're interested in their own selfish needs in their own little world.	2914.8465
2436	LES_int_01	2915.1668	Yeah.	2915.5173
2438		2918.2152	Well, it will be interesting to see what happens here.	2920.4303
2439	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2921.3156	Sad to see what happens [here.]	2923.0399
2440	LES_int_01	2922.7592	[Yeah.]	2923.5341
2441	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2924.1200	But, like I said	2924.9498
2443		2925.2244	I would write that letter.	2926.1844
2445		2926.3614	Let everybody know, I exist and tha- there's nothing for me.	2929.2660
2446	LES_int_01	2929.5345	Yeah.	2929.9800
2448		2931.4790	If more people did that.	2932.5192
2449	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2932.6351	[Yes.]	2933.8344
2450	LES_int_01	2933.4805	[It'd be a] good thing.	2934.2522
2451	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2934.4048	Yes.	2935.1553
2453		2935.5032	Say, look. You need to develop some co-ops for me.	2937.9627
2454	LES_int_01	2938.5302	Yeah.	2938.8109
2455	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2938.8109	Cause I heard Brooklyn had developed some	2940.6538
2456		2940.7758	condos	2941.5936
2457	LES_int_01	2942.0940	I [I think]	2942.6981
2458	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2942.3136	[in Yak] in /Yatsee's/ [district.]	2944.7789
2459	LES_int_01	2944.2358	[Yeah.]	2944.7789
2460	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2944.9009	[Yeah.]	2945.2488
2461	LES_int_01	2944.9009	[If] we ever bought, we'd have to move to Brooklyn I think because	2947.7339
2462		2949.1801	we couldn't afford it.	2950.0832
2464		2950.5591	Couldn't afford it around here.	2951.6409
2465	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2955.0398	Are you living on Lower East Side now?	2956.5319
2466	LES_int_01	2956.5319	Yeah.	2956.8980
2468		2957.4960	Fifth Street.	2958.0330
2469	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2958.9676	Oh my [God.]	2960.1167
2470	LES_int_01	2959.8951	[Yeah.]	2960.1758
2471	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2960.7189	In what?	2961.2485
2472	LES_int_01	2961.8980	Ten-	2962.1787
2474		2962.3251	tenement.	2962.6729
2475	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2962.9475	No, but Fifth and what? Between [what and what?]	2964.8550
2476	LES_int_01	2964.5621	[Oh A] and B.]	2965.2761
2477	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2966.4050	Are you living in /RD-NAME-3/	2967.5884
2479		2967.7654	/RD-NAME-3/'s building?	2968.6685
2480	LES_int_01	2970.1513	No.	2970.4869
2482		2970.8470	I don't know.	2971.4389
2483	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2971.8111	[/RD-NAME-5/	2972.7368
2484	LES_int_01	2971.9191	[/inaudible/] people in my building, no.	2973.7559
2485		2973.9023	I don't [think so.]	2974.4515
2486	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2974.1586	[/RD-NAME-5/] lives in Fifth Street	2976.2677
2487		2976.3808	between [A and B.] Yeah.	2977.5553
2488	LES_int_01	2976.7654	[Really?]	2977.1926
2489	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2977.9092	She lives in the HFC.	2979.1453
2490	LES_int_01	2980.2925	Oh, yeah, yeah.	2981.1584
2492		2981.3049	Mm-hm.	2981.5550
2494		2981.6649	That's not my buildi- I live in, um, a little farther towards A.	2984.5414
2495	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2985.0540	[Okay.]	2985.6215
2496	LES_int_01	2985.0670	[Over on]	2985.6581
2497		2985.9083	in just a little tenement building.	2987.2935
2498	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2987.5620	How is it?	2988.1795
2499	LES_int_01	2988.8141	I- we love it actually, we've been there for five years and it's great but.	2992.0116
2500	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	2992.1032	How expensive is it?	2993.0809
2501	LES_int_01	2996.2100	But it helps being married	2997.2100
2503		2997.3697	to share a room and everything like that.	2999.0895
2505		3000.1330	But, it's crazy. You know, it's crazy.	3001.6951
2507		3003.2940	But, we moved here from Brooklyn	3004.6120
2509		3004.9354	because	3005.3445
2511		3005.4726	Brooklyn be- was becoming just as expensive.	3007.6400
2512	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3008.7628	[Where in Brooklyn?]	3009.6178
2513	LES_int_01	3009.1235	[We found a] good deal.	3009.9900
2514		3010.1548	Williamsburg.	3010.7284
2515	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3013.3157	You know where Freddy's is?	3014.5606
2516	LES_int_01	3015.2261	Yeah.	3015.4885
2517	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3015.4885	The bar?	3016.1475
2518	LES_int_01	3016.1475	Yeah.	3016.4587
2519	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3017.2215	You know the owner?	3017.9965
2520	LES_int_01	3018.5701	No.	3018.8325
2521	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3019.6257	/RD-NAME-4/	3020.3474
2522	LES_int_01	3020.7624	No.	3021.0797
2523	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3021.9706	She own Freddy's.	3022.7578
2524	LES_int_01	3022.8493	Oh.	3023.2826
2526		3023.5999	Cool.	3023.8928
2527	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3024.2223	She trained me.	3024.9581
2528	LES_int_01	3025.1533	Oh, really?	3026.0259
2530		3027.0084	That's great.	3027.5027
2531	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3027.8078	Remember in the story I told [you? They] called- that was- that- that was her boss.	3030.7436
2532	LES_int_01	3028.7727	[Yeah.]	3029.0839
2533		3031.0243	Oh. That's [funny.]	3031.9519
2534	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3031.8908	Freddy's.	3032.4677
2535	LES_int_01	3032.5743	That's terrific.	3033.3126
2536	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3033.8862	So,	3034.1641
2538		3034.3533	yeah, I used to go to Freddy's /and they did/ the whole Williamsburg.	3037.3702
2540		3037.6509	They got <ts> them people over there are racist.	3039.6524
2541	LES_int_01	3039.6524	Uh, there's a lot of [young-]	3041.2761
2542	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3040.9804	[No, they racist.]	3042.3046
2543	LES_int_01	3041.4927	[a lot of young] people over there in [Williamsburg.]7	3044.4708
2544	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3043.1406	[They're racist.]	3043.8301
2546		3044.1179	[They] are racist. I mean the older people- I used to [walk]	3047.3206
2547	LES_int_01	3046.5041	[Oh the older people?]	3047.5952
2548	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3047.9736	through Williamsburg, because I was giving a talk at the Ninetieth precinct	3051.1579
2550		3051.2982	and the Ninety-four.	3052.3905
2551	LES_int_01	3052.6285	Yeah.	3053.0434
2552	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3053.3809	And not so much when I went to the Ninetieth, but when I went to the Ninety-four,	3056.5235
2554		3056.9689	I had to walk past the park.	3058.2016
2556		3058.9277	I mean, the looks I got	3059.9693
2558		3061.4155	I used to have to tell them, look, I know /RD-NAME-2/, and I'm a organizer.	3064.4482
2560		3064.9364	And don't look at me that way.	3065.7938
2561	LES_int_01	3066.0135	Ah. (laughing) [seriously?]	3067.2888
2562	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3067.0752	[Yeah,] they don't want no [blacks running around,] new black people running around the neighborhood.	3070.3948
2563	LES_int_01	3067.8441	[Oh.]	3068.9242
2564		3070.3948	Oh, that's terrible.	3071.5462
2565	LES_se0_ag4_f_01	3071.5462	Mm-hm.	3072.0160
2566		3072.7666	Mm-hm.	3073.1754