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1PRV_int_010.7666So1.3282
3 1.9263like I said, it's nothing3.3010 
5 3.5309real formal at all.4.6176 
7 4.8022It's just another-5.5690 
9 5.7157It's6.0282 
11 6.2554recording a conversation7.3866 
12PRV_se0_ag1_m_017.6470[Okay.]8.0825
13PRV_int_017.6470[um-]8.0872
14 8.8919But you were born in Princeville?9.9474
15PRV_se0_ag1_m_0110.4993Yes.10.7833
16PRV_int_0110.8732Oh okay. Cool. And12.1276
18 12.3737uh,12.7429 
20 12.9512where did you stay in Princeville [growing up?]14.8526 
21PRV_se0_ag1_m_0114.3665[I stayed] on uh, Church Street [with my] grandmother.16.9606
22PRV_int_0115.9880[Oh.]16.3099
24 16.8969Okay.17.3513 
25 18.1796And your grandmother is?19.4008
27 19.8032What was her name?20.4753 
28PRV_se0_ag1_m_0121.0149/RD-NAME-3/.21.8859
29PRV_int_0121.8318/RD-NAME-2/? Okay.22.6223
30 23.7299And you still stay in Princeville or?25.5179
31PRV_se0_ag1_m_0125.8363No, after the flood in ninety nine, uh,28.3809
33 28.9679Grandma didn't wanna go30.1228 
35 30.3595back to Princeville. Said she needed a change. She felt that33.1096 
37 33.6066by her being34.2740 
39 35.0389that old that she didn't want to start over again in the same place [where she] was raised, [so we] moved39.7534 
40PRV_int_0138.0635[Yeah.]38.3854
42 39.1049[Yeah.]39.4599 
43PRV_se0_ag1_m_0140.0212to Rocky Mount, which is about fifteen miles away.42.5299
44PRV_int_0142.6530Okay.43.0742
45PRV_se0_ag1_m_0143.0222The neighborhood over there around the corner from my uncle's house.45.6208
46PRV_int_0145.6398Okay.45.9853
48 46.7691Uh,47.0531 
50 47.2045/inaudible/.49.6612 
52 50.8114Uh,51.2043 
54 52.3762okay. So you- she moved to Rocky Mount after the flood,55.4387 
55PRV_se0_ag1_m_0155.3677Mm-hm.55.7369
56PRV_int_0155.7038and you stayed with her your whole life?57.5788
57PRV_se0_ag1_m_0157.6114Yes.57.9948
58PRV_int_0157.9427Okay. Okay.58.8527
59 59.4507Um,59.8672
61 60.2554and you went to school in Princeville?62.2907 
62PRV_se0_ag1_m_0162.2907Mm-hm.62.7925
63PRV_int_0163.7561All of your friends are from Princeville?65.5745
64PRV_se0_ag1_m_0165.5027Most of 'em, [yes.]66.4400
65PRV_int_0166.0897[<laugh>]66.7571
66 66.9512What- uh, what was life67.9547
68 68.2055like growing up in Princeville?69.6208 
69PRV_se0_ag1_m_0169.9833Princeville was basically like,71.9524
71 73.2967your last name74.3286 
73 74.4943didn't matter because everybody76.6507 
75 76.8637was family. Like if78.0518 
77 78.3169you did something in the streets and somebody else's family saw it,81.8433 
79 82.1490it's like they had permission83.6305 
81 83.9571to punish you, [and then] you would get punished again86.4517 
82PRV_int_0184.7950[Yeah.]85.1452
83 86.5700[<laugh>]86.9913
84PRV_se0_ag1_m_0186.8256[when you] got home. So it's basically like everybody knew each other.89.5217
85PRV_int_0189.5785Uh-huh.89.9856
86PRV_se0_ag1_m_0189.9051If-90.1796
87 90.5583if we ate anything, they ate, so it's like basically we did everything93.8480
89 93.9758[together.]94.4663 
90PRV_int_0193.9853[Mm-hm.]94.2599
91 94.6318[Mkay.]95.0957
92PRV_se0_ag1_m_0194.7501[And] nothing was separated.96.2648
93PRV_int_0196.3169Mkay.96.6956
94PRV_se0_ag1_m_0196.9985And it's a whole lot different now because98.6694
96 98.8540you don't see99.6256 
98 100.6176those people anymore. Everybody102.4163 
100 102.7618moved away. It's a lot of people came back, but it's twice as many that106.3782 
102 106.5513didn't come back and [didn't wanna] come back.108.4845 
103PRV_int_01107.4081[Yeah.]107.6873
105 108.4731Okay.108.8852 
106 109.9547Where did they go?110.7688
108 111.0197/inaudible/111.3558 
109PRV_se0_ag1_m_01111.6520Um,112.1916
111 112.7975most people113.6968 
113 113.9477just came across the bridge to115.4340 
115 115.8979Tarboro. A lot of 'em moved to Rocky Mount and118.7217 
117 119.4175Greenville, Raleigh,120.7997 
119 121.0506Greensboro.121.7701 
120PRV_int_01121.8742Okay.122.2576
121PRV_se0_ag1_m_01122.1913Just moved anywhere but there because they didn't-124.7342
122 125.2377I mean after the flood and everything,126.8376
124 127.2304it- it still doesn't feel the same. My mother moved back it doesn't feel the same. Cause you don't see those same people anymore.132.9370 
126 133.3914It's a whole bunch of new people.134.7860 
127PRV_int_01134.9487Really?135.3652
129 136.2578It's m- your mother's- And what was her name?138.5914 
130PRV_se0_ag1_m_01138.6104/RD-NAME-2/.139.1216
131PRV_int_01139.2399/RD-NAME-2/, [okay.]139.9215
132PRV_se0_ag1_m_01139.6281[Mm-hm.]139.9357
133PRV_int_01140.1345Is she-140.5700
135 140.8824she decided to move back right away or?142.5000 
136PRV_se0_ag1_m_01143.0578She-143.5927
138 145.0032Yeah, she did. She was really pressed that- And was just like, can we just please move somewhere else? And149.4459 
140 149.6873the land that she has my151.3204 
142 151.5760grandfather152.2339 
144 152.6789willed to her, and so she wasn't gonna give her land up that easily. She didn't care what kind of land they called it or157.8127 
146 158.1109what people thought of Princeville. That was her home and that she wanted to go back, [so]162.0092 
147PRV_int_01161.6305[Mm.]161.9571
148PRV_se0_ag1_m_01162.3500she did.162.8612
149PRV_int_01163.1452Mkay.163.5523
151 163.8411Mkay.164.2245 
153 164.9013Um,165.3226 
155 165.6425who- your grandfather-166.7075 
157 166.9253do you know who your grandfather is?168.0755 
159 168.2222/?/168.6056 
160PRV_se0_ag1_m_01168.7571/RD-NAME-3/?169.3156
161PRV_int_01169.5050Oh, /RD-NAME-3/. [Okay.]170.8256
162PRV_se0_ag1_m_01170.3759[Mm-hm.]170.6457
163PRV_int_01171.3652Now the /RD-NAME-1/ family, I've heard some things173.4046
165 174.1465about them. Do you know anything about your grandfather?176.4943 
166PRV_se0_ag1_m_01176.6363I know a lot about my grandfather, but I178.7833
168 179.1998do not know180.0234 
170 180.5914a lot about his family. There- they are a lot of /RD-NAME-1/ [and I'm] not sure if we are related.185.9145 
171PRV_int_01183.4883[Mm-hm.]183.9285
172 186.0660[Okay.]186.4826
173PRV_se0_ag1_m_01186.1749[I know] some of his family, but.187.9405
174PRV_int_01188.6410Yeah.188.9487
176 189.4031Okay.189.8744 
177PRV_se0_ag1_m_01190.1016So yeah, this may not be the same /RD-NAME-1/.192.2175
178PRV_int_01192.2175Okay.192.6814
180 193.1831You know, I'm tryna kind of piece together like,195.0019 
182 195.1854the different families /and the trees in ??/.197.7583 
184 198.3311So th- so it was important for your mother to move back from Rocky Mount.201.2706 
186 201.4863/??/201.7940 
187PRV_se0_ag1_m_01201.7372It was like she was almost hysterical. Anytime we said anything about not going back, it was like getting your head chopped off.207.8478
188PRV_int_01207.8291Mm.208.1510
189PRV_se0_ag1_m_01208.1253She was like, you don't wanna do what?209.5264
190PRV_int_01209.8672<laugh>210.3476
191PRV_se0_ag1_m_01210.2648But she was- she was pressed on211.9689
192PRV_int_01212.0399Yeah.212.4564
193PRV_se0_ag1_m_01212.6599getting back.213.2043
194PRV_int_01213.3274Yeah.213.7060
195PRV_se0_ag1_m_01213.6804And she did all she could. I mean we didn't have216.5015
196 217.5807our hand in the cookie jar or anything [about] that house. And neither did my father because she just222.3406
197PRV_int_01219.6378[Mm-hm.]220.0780
198PRV_se0_ag1_m_01223.1642hustled basically. Did- she did everything as far as the furnishings and227.3181
199PRV_int_01227.2945Yeah.227.6873
200PRV_se0_ag1_m_01227.9666um,228.5299
202 228.7050picking out229.2399 
204 229.4624what house she wanted and230.9392 
206 231.2990we had232.0989 
208 232.3762[nothing to] do with that. She didn't want us to have anything to do with it. It's like, this is-235.7464 
209PRV_int_01232.4377[Hm.]232.7643
210PRV_se0_ag1_m_01235.9405I want my house-236.9865
211PRV_int_01237.1617Yeah.237.3794
212PRV_se0_ag1_m_01237.3416my new house to be as close as possible to my last house so I will feel comfortable in it.241.5444
213PRV_int_01242.1109Yeah.242.4943
215 242.7830Okay.243.2753 
217 243.6445So sh- so she tried to pretty much replicate the original house.247.0553 
218PRV_se0_ag1_m_01247.7985And she did. To a T. [<laugh>]250.7785
219PRV_int_01248.9818[<laugh>]250.1888
220 250.8022So today it looks like stepping in the same [house.]253.0790
221PRV_se0_ag1_m_01252.8707[If] it took her ordering254.5889
222 255.5167something from Timbuktu to get it to look like the last house, she did it.259.2446
223PRV_int_01260.5558Right.260.9534
225 261.1901/Okay/.261.5877 
227 261.8413So262.2058 
229 262.7501so you have um,263.7441 
231 265.3772family there.266.2765 
233 267.0717Your- your mother,268.0090 
235 268.4519um, and do you have like aunts and uncles?270.3690 
236PRV_se0_ag1_m_01270.2554Just one more271.3251
237 271.5429aunt,271.9925
238PRV_int_01272.0777Okay.272.4706
239PRV_se0_ag1_m_01272.9061just one more aunt that's there. And I have a few cousins275.4128
241 275.8956that went back. But as far276.9654 
243 277.6139as the maternal family, it's just my mother and my aunt.280.0374 
244PRV_int_01280.0874Okay.280.4993
246 281.8293And then uh,282.7760 
248 283.6849cause you were talking about growing up there, so you went to286.0658 
250 286.3004the-286.6271 
252 286.9489the elementary school?288.0708 
253PRV_se0_ag1_m_01288.0992Mm-hm, which is totally different now.290.1014
254PRV_int_01290.1298Yeah?290.4138
255PRV_se0_ag1_m_01290.3286But, yeah.290.9771
256PRV_int_01291.1238What was it like back then?292.0874
257PRV_se0_ag1_m_01293.7489It was-294.3784
259 295.1973You didn't see too many white kids. I didn't meet297.6682 
261 298.7407my first white person until I was in the third grade301.9499 
262PRV_int_01301.9783[Really?]302.2434
263PRV_se0_ag1_m_01302.1203[because] from kindergarten to second, I went to Princeville. It was like,305.6873
264 307.5760you saw white teachers,308.6931
265PRV_int_01308.7688Yeah.308.9960
266PRV_se0_ag1_m_01308.9108but no white students.310.3742
267PRV_int_01310.2531Yeah.310.4661
268PRV_se0_ag1_m_01310.7265And I-311.1051
270 311.6021the first white student was third grade when I went to this school called /RD-NAME-2/.315.2942 
272 315.4315[/RD-NAME-2/] [Elementary] and that's when317.2992 
273PRV_int_01315.4674[Oh.]315.7514
275 316.3194[Uh-huh.]316.6129 
276PRV_se0_ag1_m_01318.0424um, the kids from Princeville320.0020
278 320.4185and the kids from Stocks321.9096 
279PRV_int_01321.9616Mm-hm.322.3214
280PRV_se0_ag1_m_01322.3241Elementary School-323.2992
281PRV_int_01323.2897Mm-hm.323.6069
282PRV_se0_ag1_m_01323.6542that school only had the third grade. [So it's just] basically taking these two schools and mixing them together.328.3829
283PRV_int_01325.5002[Oh.]325.8269
284 328.3904Okay.328.7880
285PRV_se0_ag1_m_01328.7785And it's just like two schools meeting each other for the first time, [so.]331.8505
286PRV_int_01331.5760[And] one was all black and was all white?333.8878
287PRV_se0_ag1_m_01333.9218One was mostly white. That- Stocks had a few [blacks]336.8944
288PRV_int_01336.6246[Okay.]337.1121
289PRV_se0_ag1_m_01337.1547because of East Tarboro338.4895
290PRV_int_01338.5085[Okay.]338.9534
291PRV_se0_ag1_m_01338.7167[and] East Tarboro students went there and then all the Princeville341.2187
292 341.3891[students] uh, went to Princeville.343.4576
293PRV_int_01341.4175[Yeah.]341.8009
294 343.7180Okay.344.1440
296 345.3558So but up until then,346.4950 
298 347.3891you live in Princeville, and348.5423 
300 348.6861never seen a white person.349.8695 
301PRV_se0_ag1_m_01350.1156I mean I see- you would see them, [but I- just like], I never352.9063
302PRV_int_01351.6836[/Yeah, you ne-/]352.2715
303 352.9205[/Unintelligible/]353.7394
304PRV_se0_ag1_m_01353.3655[had 'em] in my [class. It was like,]354.9322
305PRV_int_01354.2145[Yeah.]354.7577
306PRV_se0_ag1_m_01356.0493a classroom with two teachers.357.6161
308 357.7987The teachers,358.6034 
310 359.4317most of 'em was like they had a black and a white teacher and then it's like, thirty black students.363.3179 
311PRV_int_01363.2185Mm.363.5167
312PRV_se0_ag1_m_01363.4362So that's all I was used to seeing [was black] kids so when I saw this white kid, I'm like, well what is he?368.3144
313PRV_int_01364.8921[Yeah.]365.2093
314 368.4375<laugh>369.1475
316 369.4836What was that like from going to that new school?371.5643 
317PRV_se0_ag1_m_01371.5453It was strange, and then I remember seeing movies374.5700
318PRV_int_01375.2591[/Really./]375.6567
319PRV_se0_ag1_m_01375.2658[about the] segregation and all that stuff was just running through my head. But it- it was nothing like that. Ac- my best friend for381.3037
320 381.6587the longest time was a white kid.383.2093
321PRV_int_01383.1714Oh okay.383.8530
322 384.2885Growing up in a school [like that.]385.7606
323PRV_se0_ag1_m_01385.1973[Mm-hm.]385.5713
324PRV_int_01386.1913So there wasn't-386.9013
326 387.2374so you got- so the transition when- [when you got] to school was /??/390.9938 
327PRV_se0_ag1_m_01389.6116[Mm-hm.]389.9098
328PRV_int_01391.6091/inaudible/392.3901
330 392.6079And then uh,393.3558 
332 394.4756wait- you- when- so you go over the school there, and then397.4624 
334 397.7985uh,398.2765 
336 398.6079after that399.2990 
338 399.4410third grade is where you- where'd you go to school.401.2471 
339PRV_se0_ag1_m_01401.2519It was /RD-SCHOOL-3/.402.1891
340PRV_int_01402.4778Mkay.402.9086
341PRV_se0_ag1_m_01403.7653And404.0020
343 404.2576that was fourth405.9806 
345 406.2200and fifth.407.1477 
346PRV_int_01407.0436What was that?407.6589
347PRV_se0_ag1_m_01407.6021Fourth and fifth grade before we went to middle school.409.7133
348PRV_int_01409.8079Okay.410.3086
350 410.6173And middle school is412.0827 
351PRV_se0_ag1_m_01412.5229/RD-SCHOOL-4/.413.1745
352PRV_int_01413.1572/RD-SCHOOL-2/.413.5311
353PRV_se0_ag1_m_01413.7015Mm-hm.414.0237
354PRV_int_01414.3974/RD-SCHOOL-2/ Middle School, /??/.415.9073
356 416.2339And then, from there you went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/?418.3072 
357PRV_se0_ag1_m_01418.0780Mm-hm.418.4567
358PRV_int_01418.4425Okay.418.8894
359 419.4270And then what year are you? Are you- did you go421.6517
361 421.9215to a422.3239 
363 422.4185/RD-NAME-3/ and you were in the same grade or?424.3545 
364PRV_se0_ag1_m_01424.4235No, [actually that's the only-] that's the only time that we were ever428.6126
365PRV_int_01425.3513[/inaudible/]426.6104
366PRV_se0_ag1_m_01428.8114in school together because when she got430.6318
368 430.8685there- when she was a [freshman, I was a] senior.432.6435 
369PRV_int_01431.5737[/inaudible/]432.1749
371 432.5441Okay. Okay.433.4434 
372 433.9073And then where- did you- are you done with school or did you go to [college?]437.7015
373PRV_se0_ag1_m_01437.1667[I went to] college at um,438.9370
374 439.2541North Carolina A and T440.4469
375PRV_int_01440.4233[Okay.]440.8493
376PRV_se0_ag1_m_01440.6315[in] Greensboro.441.5025
377PRV_int_01441.4457Okay.441.8054
378PRV_se0_ag1_m_01442.0448I got homesick,442.9489
380 443.1525missed my grandmother and my mother so444.9417 
382 445.0695I came back home446.0872 
384 446.2481[and did] the lazy thing for awhile.448.0184 
385PRV_int_01446.2576[Uh-huh.]446.5511
386PRV_se0_ag1_m_01448.2200And then I went to449.0531
388 449.6684ECU450.4400 
390 450.6861and I got bored with that.451.9831 
391PRV_int_01452.0635[Uh-huh.]452.4280
392PRV_se0_ag1_m_01452.2529[It]452.5321
393 452.7830takes a lot453.5025
395 453.7818to please me, [and that school] didn't please me. So now I have applied to the Art Institute in Charlotte.458.4138 
396PRV_int_01454.6034[<laugh>]455.0862
397 458.4943Okay.458.8067
398PRV_se0_ag1_m_01459.2564And just waiting to hear from them so I can go on and461.6163
400 462.1181finish462.6340 
401PRV_int_01462.8518Oh, okay.463.3961
403 463.5144[/?/]463.9215 
404PRV_se0_ag1_m_01463.5334[and leave] North Carolina.464.6978
405PRV_int_01464.8682<laugh>465.9833
407 466.3478You were doing art at the other schools or?468.6577 
408PRV_se0_ag1_m_01468.7334Yes.469.0648
410 469.4576Fashion Design.470.1180 
411PRV_int_01470.1156Fashion Design?470.7759
412PRV_se0_ag1_m_01470.6221Mm-hm.470.9534
413PRV_int_01470.9203That's cool.471.3794
414 471.8792When did you get into that?472.9253
415PRV_se0_ag1_m_01473.7867I've been drawing474.7855
417 475.1689basically all my life, but476.6599 
419 476.9676when I went off to A and T is when I started majoring in it.479.9382 
420PRV_int_01480.0613Mm-hm.480.4589
421PRV_se0_ag1_m_01480.5962They had a good program in it, but482.0446
423 482.8445I thought at that point two and a half hours was485.1809 
425 485.3749too far away from home.486.5772 
426PRV_int_01486.5962Mm.487.0127
427PRV_se0_ag1_m_01487.5050I had the chance to go to489.1901
429 489.6330The North Carolina School of Science and Math, and I think that would have-492.7334 
431 492.9796If I had gone, that would have prepared me494.9297 
432PRV_int_01495.2232Mm.495.5877
433PRV_se0_ag1_m_01495.8271um,496.3904
435 496.6081for being on my own,497.6779 
436PRV_int_01497.7725[Mm.]498.1228
437PRV_se0_ag1_m_01497.8909[but I] wasn't used to being on my own499.5665
438PRV_int_01499.5760Yeah.499.9121
439PRV_se0_ag1_m_01499.8505and500.2576
440 500.5605that kind of freaked me out. [So I wasn't] ready502.6697
441PRV_int_01501.7279[Yeah.]502.2389
442 502.8069Scared.503.3087
443PRV_se0_ag1_m_01503.2613when I left, and I was home every single weekend [for two and] a half years.507.0082
444PRV_int_01505.6186[<laugh>]506.0493
446 506.9914Yeah.507.3440 
447 508.2673So there's- there's another transition510.2459
449 510.6056of510.8944 
451 511.5618actually moving out of [Princeville.]513.5340 
452PRV_se0_ag1_m_01512.7641[Mm-hm.]513.1806
453PRV_int_01514.0212And that's rough I'm hearing from some [people that's a big] transition.517.6139
454PRV_se0_ag1_m_01515.9714[Yeah.]516.6624
455PRV_int_01517.9831What's- what's so hard about that? Is that519.8717
457 520.1395there's something about Princeville that's-521.6826 
458PRV_se0_ag1_m_01521.5974That's nothing522.5204
459 522.8849there, but I guess it's just like,524.6978
461 525.2327the same way anybody else feels about home,527.6374 
463 527.7631no matter what's there or what goes on there530.3381 
464PRV_int_01530.3665[Mm-hm.]530.7120
465PRV_se0_ag1_m_01530.5227[when] you can't run away from it, it's still gonna be your home.533.0199
466PRV_int_01533.0010Yeah.533.3465
467PRV_se0_ag1_m_01534.0329And it was only-534.7476
469 535.6612Princeville to me now536.9771 
471 537.9522is- is not the same Princeville because you see all these people that you don't know doing things that you really don't approve of, and you're like, I can't believe this is the place546.3027 
473 547.2872that I grew547.9215 
475 548.7735up in. And the- the street that I grew up on was basically like,552.0376 
477 553.1689middle class.554.2150 
478PRV_int_01554.0067Mm-hm.554.5369
479PRV_se0_ag1_m_01554.5747And now, if you go down that street, a lot of those people are gone and you see a lot of558.6956
481 559.1831drug addicts [and] prostitutes and just a whole bunch of carrying on that you didn't see564.1228 
482PRV_int_01560.1393[Mm-hm.]560.5795
483PRV_se0_ag1_m_01564.3500[before] the flood.565.6186
484PRV_int_01564.3642[Wow.]564.6719
485 565.6281Hm.565.8600
486PRV_se0_ag1_m_01566.2103Especially on that street. You just didn't see that-568.4235
488 568.6081that568.8590 
490 569.1193type of carrying on on that street.570.7429 
491PRV_int_01570.5867Hm.570.9038
492 571.4008What do you think that's about? What- that transition?574.0117
493PRV_se0_ag1_m_01575.3986I575.5643
495 575.7867think576.1702 
497 576.4163that with-577.2683 
499 577.5476with the flood it really messed a lot of people up, not giving them an excuse to be on drugs because it was582.6056 
501 582.8281probably there, [and I just] didn't see it. [But now] it's just like th- everybody's open with it.587.3560 
502PRV_int_01583.7606[Mm.]584.0351
504 584.7546[Mm-hm.]585.1664 
505 587.6495Mm.587.9571
506PRV_se0_ag1_m_01588.4731Just going through Princeville now you gonna-590.4564
508 590.6978Nine times out of ten, you gonna see more drug addicts than you do just regular people594.5937 
509PRV_int_01594.6530[Hm.]595.0174
510PRV_se0_ag1_m_01594.7113[I mean] cause they just roam the street.596.4058
511PRV_int_01596.5889Hm.596.9487
513 597.9664And- and you say that's from- partly from the flood?600.7334 
514PRV_se0_ag1_m_01601.3961A lot of people- it- it really messed a lot of people up.603.9332
515PRV_int_01604.0448Yeah.604.3904
516PRV_se0_ag1_m_01604.3714It really did.605.1335
517PRV_int_01605.2045Mm.605.5406
518PRV_se0_ag1_m_01605.6779And it's just like, people know-607.2920
520 609.5120It's just so many drugs going through that area. It's611.9573 
522 612.1228people coming from-613.2352 
524 613.3866seems like they're migrating from north, just to come here. You see all these new people, and it's like,617.9051 
526 618.1465you get to talk to 'em and like where are you from? I'm from New York or621.1475 
528 621.5877New Jersey and I'm622.6413 
530 622.8353just tryna figure out well why are they here? Why did they come here?625.7559 
531PRV_int_01625.7464Yeah.626.1440
532PRV_se0_ag1_m_01626.6694It's strange.627.4173
533PRV_int_01627.3842Yeah.627.7486
534 628.6744Yeah th- that's what uh, some other people were saying that630.9464
536 631.5381I guess632.1393 
538 632.4185having new homes and-633.6932 
539PRV_se0_ag1_m_01633.7060Mm-hm.633.9995
540PRV_int_01634.0022kind of opportunities, and635.1154
542 635.6447kind of maybe like,636.4258 
544 636.8234more affordable homes [/or something/.]638.3144 
545PRV_se0_ag1_m_01637.8079[Mm-hm.]638.2150
546 638.4422Mm-hm.638.7925
547PRV_int_01638.8351You get a lot [/inaudible/.]640.1084
548PRV_se0_ag1_m_01639.4173[The cost of living is lower, but [still.]641.4980
549PRV_int_01641.0010[Yeah.]641.3749
550 642.0897So lot of outside people came [in.]643.8695
551PRV_se0_ag1_m_01643.5997[A lot] of outside people.645.0812
552PRV_int_01644.8919Yeah.645.2232
553 645.9786Everyone says that. I- I wondered-647.7469
554PRV_se0_ag1_m_01647.6258If you- if you would go through Princeville right now and just650.1582
555 650.4043pick a random person just walking [in the street] and like, did you grow up here?653.9335
556PRV_int_01652.1726[Mm-hm.]652.4644
557 654.0140Mm-hm.654.3926
558PRV_se0_ag1_m_01654.3879You're gonna get the answer no.655.7464
559PRV_int_01655.9594Really?656.3286
561 656.9960[/Inaudible/]657.6918 
562PRV_se0_ag1_m_01657.1475[Cause it's not] that many people left.658.7975
563PRV_int_01659.0909Where did they all go? Just- just over to Tarboro or just [out?]662.2167
564PRV_se0_ag1_m_01661.9973[Tarboro], Greenville, Greensboro, Raleigh,664.5000
565PRV_int_01664.7123Yeah.665.0436
566PRV_se0_ag1_m_01665.0815Rocky Mount.665.7489
567PRV_int_01666.0234/?/666.2932
569 666.8849What do you think about that? Like,668.3854 
571 668.8777how it's kind of been-669.9569 
573 670.6933I mean it's such a historical place, right?672.6624 
575 672.8896And then it just kind of scattered.674.7830 
577 675.1475I mean, what do you think happened?676.5000 
578PRV_se0_ag1_m_01676.5561I'm gonna be677.1856
580 677.4791brutally honest.678.5110 
581PRV_int_01678.4920That's what I love.679.1831
582 679.3582<laugh>679.7322
584 680.1156[<laugh>]680.4848 
585PRV_se0_ag1_m_01680.1251[We] have681.3842
586 681.7865the dumbest bunch of people683.7805
587PRV_int_01683.9714Really?684.4920
588PRV_se0_ag1_m_01684.5252running Princeville.685.6328
589PRV_int_01685.6281Yeah.686.0020
590PRV_se0_ag1_m_01686.1203We always get the wrong people in there. They [get in] there and do all this talking about, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that and they never do it.692.4564
591PRV_int_01688.2910[Yeah.]688.5608
592 692.5558Mm.692.9345
593PRV_se0_ag1_m_01692.9581And we can find the most uneducated people to try to run this town.696.5962
594PRV_int_01696.6388Mm.696.9464
595PRV_se0_ag1_m_01697.6801It's-697.9783
597 698.1109it's sad.698.7404 
598PRV_int_01699.0197So it's just poorly run?700.3640
599PRV_se0_ag1_m_01700.5608And anytime they have a town meeting, it's-702.7902
601 703.1736These are supposed to be grown, educated, civilized people, and they're in the town meeting fighting, [and they have] it on the front page of the newspaper.710.2671 
602PRV_int_01708.4210[/?/]708.6861
603PRV_se0_ag1_m_01710.6994I'm not used to that kind of stuff.712.2233
604PRV_int_01712.1983Mm-hm.712.6460
605 713.2971So wait, so it wasn't like that before?715.1154
606PRV_se0_ag1_m_01715.5597No.715.8058
607PRV_int_01716.0851Really?716.3644
609 716.8310Hm.717.0818 
610PRV_se0_ag1_m_01717.3090We've had dumb mayors, but [<laugh>]719.6947
611PRV_int_01718.5729[<laugh>]719.6994
612PRV_se0_ag1_m_01719.9503it hasn't-720.5656
613PRV_int_01720.6272[Everybody has dumb mayors. <laugh>]722.2223
614PRV_se0_ag1_m_01720.7455[it hasn't been like that before.]722.4354
615PRV_int_01722.5490Yeah.722.8898
616PRV_se0_ag1_m_01722.9986[We've had] the dumbest bunch of mayors. I think we need to be in the Guinness [Book of World Records.]727.3183
617PRV_int_01723.0203[/inaudible/]723.3706
619 726.2438[<laugh>]727.8058 
620 728.5158So you think people moved out because of that730.2794
622 730.6107or?730.8853 
623PRV_se0_ag1_m_01731.5006Probably part of the reason.732.7644
624PRV_int_01732.8118Yeah.733.1905
626 733.9052Any other reasons you- I mean-735.3529 
627PRV_se0_ag1_m_01735.8345[Uh],736.5113
628PRV_int_01736.1043[I mean] you don't know it-737.1787
629PRV_se0_ag1_m_01737.3776[misusage] of funds, I mean any kind of money that came through was always a big scandal about that, and742.7007
630PRV_int_01737.6095[/inaudible/]738.1302
631PRV_se0_ag1_m_01744.1870it's basically I just don't think that- It's- there's one woman747.4956
632PRV_int_01747.7635Mm.748.1043
633PRV_se0_ag1_m_01748.7385that's on the town council that really pushes751.4697
635 751.8721and drives for Princeville753.4862 
637 754.0238to be good but they don't give her her credit. And that's756.4710 
639 756.6035Ann Howell757.3183 
641 757.5265Brown.757.9099 
642PRV_int_01758.1087Mm-hm.758.4827
643PRV_se0_ag1_m_01759.1907/RD-NAME-4/. I know some call her /RD-NAME-2/.761.4154
644PRV_int_01761.5290Mm-hm.761.8509
645PRV_se0_ag1_m_01761.8556Um,762.2627
647 763.2236she-763.7253 
649 764.1466she's a go-getter,765.1454 
650PRV_int_01765.2522Uh-huh.765.6214
651PRV_se0_ag1_m_01765.8676and she766.2557
653 767.2071gets a lot of stuff going for Princeville. She'll get the ball rolling but they won't continue to push it. It's like they'll772.1043 
655 772.3173work on it a little while, and then they just774.2580 
657 774.4142leave her ideas alone.775.5786 
659 776.3644And she's like,776.9134 
661 777.3800the most civilized and most educated person that they have in there. [And I] really think she should be mayor, but782.5206 
662PRV_int_01780.6130[Mm-hm.]780.8970
663 782.9702Yeah.783.4152
664PRV_se0_ag1_m_01784.4782I don't know why they don't see that. You know, she's a good person.786.9491
665PRV_int_01787.3325Do you vote?787.9052
666PRV_se0_ag1_m_01788.4212Yes.788.8046
667PRV_int_01789.3469Do a lot of people vote in Princeville?791.0509
668PRV_se0_ag1_m_01791.5858I don't think so.792.4236
669PRV_int_01792.4426Really?792.8923
670PRV_se0_ag1_m_01793.1526They- they're the ones that complain about everything, but when you go through the polls, the polls are like bare.797.9740
671PRV_int_01798.2248Mm.798.5372
672PRV_se0_ag1_m_01798.6319It's like, okay. You were complaining but where are you now?800.6957
673PRV_int_01800.7742Mm-hm.801.2212
674PRV_se0_ag1_m_01801.7871[So]802.1658
675PRV_int_01801.7919[/??/]802.1469
676 802.3977[Do young] people vote in Princeville?804.1018
677PRV_se0_ag1_m_01802.4025[no they don't.]802.9231
678PRV_int_01804.3242Do you hear them /pressing/ that they do?805.7253
679PRV_se0_ag1_m_01806.2555I don't think they do.807.3726
680PRV_int_01807.3611Yeah.807.6688
681 808.0901People you know, but they say that they won't.810.1207
682PRV_se0_ag1_m_01810.5278People say it just to812.0093
684 812.3691[say it, but they] don't do it because they- r-815.3586 
685PRV_int_01812.7316[<laugh> They just-]813.5410
686PRV_se0_ag1_m_01815.5243fail to realize that816.6792
688 817.0437when the voting goes on and they have it on the news, they let you know the percentage of people that showed up and the percentage is usually low.823.9147 
689PRV_int_01823.9525Mm-hm.824.4256
691 824.7856Yeah.825.0791 
692PRV_se0_ag1_m_01825.2286And you know like, if- if Princeville has seventeen hundred828.2911
694 829.0863people, why did only six hundred people,831.6735 
695PRV_int_01831.9670Mm-hm.832.3599
696PRV_se0_ag1_m_01832.4593and sometimes not even that many,834.0592
697PRV_int_01834.2343Mm-hm.834.7739
698PRV_se0_ag1_m_01834.9680why did only six hundred people show up to vote?837.0582
699PRV_int_01837.2570Yeah.837.6404
701 838.2936Hm.838.6202 
702PRV_se0_ag1_m_01839.6852It can't be six hundred grown people and eleven hundred [children. That doesn't make sense.]843.7500
703PRV_int_01842.4996[<laugh>] Right. Right. Right.844.5681
704 845.2498Hm.845.5432
706 846.3290That seems crazy.847.2520 
708 848.0661So it's changed a lot.849.4010 
710 850.1185It's changed a lot.850.9468 
712 851.5196What are some of the things that you remember- the positive things that you remember from-855.8155 
714 856.0995from when- when you were growing up /inaudible/?859.2662 
716 859.5549I know she's the /unintelligible/. Did you grow up uh-862.2841 
718 863.1693Did you guys all grow up together?864.6792 
719PRV_se0_ag1_m_01864.6840Everybody was together.865.9431
720PRV_int_01865.9857Okay.866.4164
721PRV_se0_ag1_m_01866.4448Everybody was together.867.5202
722PRV_int_01867.5031What was that like?868.2889
723PRV_se0_ag1_m_01869.2403We had a869.8793
725 870.4662stubborn grandmother.871.7912 
726PRV_int_01871.7869<laugh> Yeah.872.6957
727PRV_se0_ag1_m_01873.1055Very stubborn but she made sure that all of us stayed together.876.8733
728PRV_int_01877.0863Mm-hm.877.4112
729PRV_se0_ag1_m_01877.6543Um,878.2176
731 879.0223she never-879.6783 
733 880.3125even though I was her favorite-881.4959 
735 881.6947[/Unintelligible/.]883.0201 
736PRV_int_01881.7326[Yeah? <laugh>]883.0343
737PRV_se0_ag1_m_01883.5360It was- it was a- it was a bunch of us and885.5761
739 886.0333she just took care887.0557 
741 887.2498of everybody. She didn't do for one unless she did for the890.4117 
743 890.8945other forty eight of [us cause]892.4640 
744PRV_int_01891.9291[Mm-hm.]892.3457
745PRV_se0_ag1_m_01893.1267think it was fifteen894.2296
747 895.0863grands, fifteen great grands and then897.2164 
749 897.4463seven?897.9102 
751 898.0617She had seven kids [and then] they all had spouses.900.6745 
752PRV_int_01899.0604[Mm-hm.]899.4296
753PRV_se0_ag1_m_01901.3135So we all met up every Sunday903.5788
754PRV_int_01903.8250Mm.904.0920
755PRV_se0_ag1_m_01904.5445at her house.905.4533
756PRV_int_01905.6474So how did she have room for all those people?907.5688
757PRV_se0_ag1_m_01907.9289She had a fairly large house.909.6802
758PRV_int_01909.4842Yeah.909.8297
759PRV_se0_ag1_m_01910.2983It wasn't big enough.911.3302
760PRV_int_01911.2308[<laugh>]911.9314
761PRV_se0_ag1_m_01911.5764[But it-] it was large enough.913.0958
762PRV_int_01913.0106Uh-huh.913.4508
763 914.2081So every Sunday you'd get together.915.6850
764PRV_se0_ag1_m_01915.6735Every Sunday, and we still do it now but we just do it at my aunt Sabrina's house.919.5360
765PRV_int_01919.4555Mm-hm.919.9147
766PRV_se0_ag1_m_01920.1845Um,920.6484
768 921.4510cause the house that we moved into after the flood was923.9929 
770 925.2851smaller.925.8579 
771PRV_int_01926.4022Mm-hm.926.7004
772PRV_se0_ag1_m_01927.0980Not that much smaller, but it just couldn't928.8521
774 928.9752house all of us.929.9172 
775PRV_int_01930.0781Mm.930.3337
776PRV_se0_ag1_m_01930.3337And during the flood,931.3561
777 932.5490Thank God for my aunt Gail, she934.4640
779 935.0036has a room935.8746 
781 936.1728on the end of her house that's about937.8721 
783 939.0156twenty by forty feet?940.2557 
784PRV_int_01940.4309Mm-hm.940.8427
785PRV_se0_ag1_m_01940.8048So during the flood942.1112
786 942.9017all of us stayed in Princeville except for her944.9702
787PRV_int_01945.1244Mm-hm.945.5078
788PRV_se0_ag1_m_01945.5031and two of my uncles946.5729
789PRV_int_01946.7906Mm-hm.947.1360
790PRV_se0_ag1_m_01947.1787and so it was forty one people in her house for nine months.950.7383
792 951.2806So that Sunday tradition basically turned into an everyday thing for nine months.956.0945 
793PRV_int_01954.9633[<laugh>] I guess so.957.0507
794PRV_se0_ag1_m_01957.0980And it-957.5836
796 957.8250it really wore me out, but I'm just glad that we did have somewhere to go,960.9775 
797PRV_int_01961.0769Yeah.961.4035
798PRV_se0_ag1_m_01961.3893and to humble us, she would962.7809
799 963.3800um, let us go to964.6723
801 965.7894Tarboro High School to really see how blessed we were968.4448 
802PRV_int_01968.4543Mm.968.6815
803PRV_se0_ag1_m_01968.6436by968.9382
804 969.2049being a close knit family, and then seeing how some of these families had to live at the school for-973.5691
805PRV_int_01973.7679Mm-hm.974.4070
806PRV_se0_ag1_m_01974.4638for so long and975.3422
808 975.8487some of 'em not even having anywhere to go.977.9219 
809PRV_int_01978.1444Mm-hm.978.5751
811 979.4603So she took you down there980.7478 
813 981.3374to981.5031 
815 982.0238see that?982.5492 
816PRV_se0_ag1_m_01982.8853We really couldn't drive anywhere [w-]984.7597
817PRV_int_01984.5940[Mm-hm.]985.0153
818PRV_se0_ag1_m_01985.0532but we walked.985.8673
819PRV_int_01986.0472Mm-hm.986.4259
820PRV_se0_ag1_m_01986.6152Um, they had like this987.9954
822 988.3788block and we had-989.8130 
824 991.0674had a curfew too.992.2271 
825PRV_int_01992.2791Mkay.992.7572
826PRV_se0_ag1_m_01992.8803But993.1643
828 993.3990like this part down here you couldn't go-995.4438 
830 996.0970you couldn't go to- we had to go through McMillan Drive and take the back way [because it-] if you were in a certain neighborhood, you had to stay within that neighborhood and couldn't go any further.1004.1419 
831PRV_int_01999.6641[Hm.]999.9102
832 1004.1892Hm.1004.4401
834 1005.4889Mkay.1005.9533 
835PRV_se0_ag1_m_011006.3504So we would go up there maybe once or twice a week.1008.7739
836PRV_int_011009.1715To like help out or?1010.4022
837PRV_se0_ag1_m_011010.6862Yes.1011.0554
838PRV_int_011011.1170Wow. Okay.1011.9102
840 1013.7988So your- your grandmother was-1015.3656 
842 1015.6259was a strong influence for your family?1017.9055 
843PRV_se0_ag1_m_011018.8805I don't think it would-1019.6426
845 1020.3952A lot of her rubbed off on us1022.2129 
846PRV_int_011022.5821Mm.1022.8140
847PRV_se0_ag1_m_011022.7525also because we just1024.1232
848 1024.7338stubborn just like her, just determined to do1027.1668
850 1027.6922a lot of things cause she had1028.9134 
852 1029.1150all the odds against her and she overcame1031.5243 
853PRV_int_011031.8367Mm.1032.1396
854PRV_se0_ag1_m_011032.8071everything. And I- I feel that we all can do the same thing too.1036.3551
855PRV_int_011036.5208Mm.1036.8143
856PRV_se0_ag1_m_011036.9089She was just that type of person.1038.5940
857PRV_int_011038.7360Yeah.1039.0958
859 1039.9289Hm.1040.1892 
861 1041.0676Yeah I guess there's a few people like that in Princeville. <laugh>1044.2958 
862PRV_se0_ag1_m_011044.6035There's only a few.1045.6165
863PRV_int_011045.7632<laugh>1046.3644
864PRV_se0_ag1_m_011047.3800There was only a few.1048.4072
865PRV_int_011048.4356Yeah.1048.7953
867 1049.3634Yeah.1049.7278 
869 1050.6130So uh,1051.3987 
871 1052.8688so what-1053.3611 
873 1053.5173how-1053.8818 
875 1054.2084back on the uh, what- what you're doing1056.2911 
877 1056.7029now, um,1057.5691 
879 1058.4685you're doing Fashion Design.1059.5240 
880PRV_se0_ag1_m_011059.5173Mm-hm.1059.8439
881PRV_int_011060.0617And1060.4214
883 1060.6202um, and you said that you were1062.1680 
885 1062.9917applying to a certain school?1064.3312 
886PRV_se0_ag1_m_011064.2886Mm-hm.1064.5963
887PRV_int_011064.6815Which school?1065.3158
888PRV_se0_ag1_m_011065.3800The Art Institute in Charlotte.1066.6581
889PRV_int_011066.6628Oh, okay.1067.1722
891 1068.1491Is that a good school?1068.8260 
892PRV_se0_ag1_m_011068.9065It's a good school.1069.6307
893PRV_int_011069.6165Okay.1070.0661
894PRV_se0_ag1_m_011070.0567Main reason why I hadn't gone1071.4578
895 1072.0049back to school I was doing1073.1219
897 1073.2545like local schools. And I considered ECU local because I was really dead set on not leaving my grandmother.1079.1503 
898PRV_int_011079.1787Mm-hm.1079.5764
899PRV_se0_ag1_m_011079.9314And every time I would say that I was going back to school, she would get sick. She would get physically [sick.]1084.8805
900PRV_int_011084.6628[Mm-hm.]1085.1456
901PRV_se0_ag1_m_011085.3018Just like I want you to do this-1086.6982
903 1086.9727Basically it's what she was saying, I want you to do this,1088.8898 
905 1089.9386but deep down inside she still didn't want1091.9172 
906PRV_int_011092.4047Yeah.1092.7597
907PRV_se0_ag1_m_011092.8023me to leave. And the day that she died, I was supposed to been going to1095.9765
909 1096.4640orientation, so that bothers me but then again it pushes me because I know that she really wanted me to finish, [but] I also wanted her to know that she was not1103.5764 
910PRV_int_011101.3516[Yeah.]1101.6593
911PRV_se0_ag1_m_011104.3432what was holding me back. I didn't want to leave her, [and she] knew that.1107.5146
912PRV_int_011106.6531[Mm.]1106.9702
913 1107.5504Yeah.1107.9149
914PRV_se0_ag1_m_011108.1611But now that she's gone, I kn- know that she would really want me to move away and1112.3833
915PRV_int_011112.3833Mm.1112.6578
916PRV_se0_ag1_m_011112.6484go on and finish because I've been doing it for seven years and I'm not finished yet, [so.]1116.8733
917PRV_int_011116.5183[Yeah.]1116.8402
918 1118.1655Mm, yeah.1118.4685
920 1118.9777So it's important.1119.7729 
921PRV_se0_ag1_m_011119.7540It's time- it's basically time1121.4060
922 1121.5906for me to grow up1122.6556
923PRV_int_011122.8544Mkay.1123.3419
924PRV_se0_ag1_m_011123.5833because1124.0993
926 1124.7126anything I needed or anything that needed to be done,1127.5243 
927PRV_int_011127.6616Mm-hm.1127.9881
928PRV_se0_ag1_m_011127.9929she did for me.1128.8875
929PRV_int_011129.0816Yeah.1129.4035
931 1130.7809So you kind of1131.5950 
933 1132.7196out on your own now.1133.7420 
934PRV_se0_ag1_m_011133.9882Yeah I'm on my own now.1135.2709
935PRV_int_011135.1715Okay.1135.5928
936 1135.8768Okay.1136.2649
938 1136.8898And uh,1137.4369 
940 1137.7256so1138.3282 
942 1138.5066uh,1138.8995 
944 1139.1882what do you- w- what types of things1141.2851 
946 1142.4638do you do with fashion design? What kind of things do you wanna do with- with that?1146.1018 
947PRV_se0_ag1_m_011147.5833My first love is um-1150.2131
949 1151.3255I really wanna be a wardrobe stylist for like a television show or1155.0602 
950PRV_int_011155.2522[Mm-hm.]1155.5788
951PRV_se0_ag1_m_011155.4368[music] videos1156.4214
952 1156.7385or like magazine spreads is something I've always been interested in, but1160.4401
954 1160.9939when you get that degree you can basically do anything from imaging to1164.8355 
956 1165.4224designing. I don't want my own line. There's too much1168.0285 
957PRV_int_011167.9481Mkay.1168.3031
958PRV_se0_ag1_m_011168.3031that comes with that. And then, I don't know how to sew.1170.9491
959PRV_int_011171.0532Okay. <laugh>1171.9809
960PRV_se0_ag1_m_011172.1513Anything that I have designed there's a woman in Princeville1174.9941
961PRV_int_011175.2403Okay.1175.5764
962PRV_se0_ag1_m_011175.8462that does1176.4946
964 1176.7076all the sewing because I refuse [<laugh>] to get behind a sewing machine1180.7953 
965PRV_int_011178.7620[Yeah.]1179.1927
966 1180.9657Who's [that?]1181.4391
967PRV_se0_ag1_m_011181.1645and learn how to do anything.1182.3290
968PRV_int_011182.3432Who's that? That- that /inaudible/?1183.7679
969PRV_se0_ag1_m_011184.4164Uh, her name is /RD-NAME-4/.1186.1792
970PRV_int_011186.2226Oh, okay. /?/1187.2971
971PRV_se0_ag1_m_011187.2450Her- that was her sister that I was just talking about that's on the town council? Miss Ann? That's her sister.1191.7682
972PRV_int_011191.2696[Huh.] Oh, okay. /Cool/.1192.7311
973 1193.8651That's good that she- so- she- so you don't sew much but you [/inaudible/ <laugh>.]1198.1847
974PRV_se0_ag1_m_011196.4117[No sewing for me period.]1197.5327
975PRV_int_011198.9941But you like to do some like,1200.3757
977 1200.5704different like /stuff/,1201.5975 
979 1201.8105wardrobe design [/inaudible/.] Okay.1203.9812 
980PRV_se0_ag1_m_011202.7951[Yes, yes.]1203.7398
981PRV_int_011204.1563Have you- have you had a chance to like,1206.0686
983 1206.7929um,1207.1905 
985 1208.1561/unintelligible/ yeah, something, you-1209.7322 
986PRV_se0_ag1_m_011210.2037[Mm-hm.]1210.6817
987PRV_int_011210.3031[/inaudible/]1211.1219
988PRV_se0_ag1_m_011211.0746And also my aunt helped me with that. Um,1213.4366
989 1214.2981the year1214.9371
991 1215.5220of the flood-1216.3599 
993 1217.3586uh, my aunt has her wholesale license, [and] she wanted1220.5490 
994PRV_int_011219.4839[Mm-hm.]1219.8910
995PRV_se0_ag1_m_011221.1548all the girls,1221.9995
997 1222.7101like anybody that came to her,1224.0828 
998PRV_int_011224.1065Yeah.1224.4852
999PRV_se0_ag1_m_011224.7976um,1225.3041
1001 1226.2744she had me to design prom gowns for them.1228.8758 
1002PRV_int_011228.8805Oh wow.1229.2971
1003PRV_se0_ag1_m_011229.9408And they cost a little or nothing. They just paid1232.2555
1005 1233.1244for the dress. She didn't make any money or anything [off of it], but it's this company that she dealt with out of New Jersey,1238.5868 
1006PRV_int_011235.3634[Mm-hm.]1235.7468
1007 1238.7194Mm-hm.1239.0886
1008PRV_se0_ag1_m_011239.1596that I uh, sent all of my designs to,1241.4770
1009PRV_int_011241.4722[Mm-hm.]1241.9503
1010PRV_se0_ag1_m_011241.7184[and] swatches of fabric so they can know um, what kind of fabric to use1245.6262
1011 1246.3930on the gowns and what kind of beading and what color [and]1249.3845
1012PRV_int_011249.0721[Mm-hm.]1249.4319
1013PRV_se0_ag1_m_011249.5691that year1250.1797
1015 1250.6247think I did eighteen gowns?1252.3741 
1016PRV_int_011252.5634Okay, wow.1253.2640
1017PRV_se0_ag1_m_011253.2734And they had 'em all shipped here.1254.9159
1018PRV_int_011255.1479Oh wow.1255.6875
1019PRV_se0_ag1_m_011256.1040I think I did two tuxedos also that they did.1259.3018
1020PRV_int_011259.3681Oh wow.1259.9219
1021PRV_se0_ag1_m_011260.2532So I've actually seen quite a few of my1262.5348
1023 1263.3564designs come to life.1264.9421 
1024PRV_int_011264.7433Oh nice.1265.4770
1025 1265.8651Yeah.1266.2201
1027 1266.6603So- so you sent all that to them and they- they made it happen?1269.6830 
1028PRV_se0_ag1_m_011269.5504Mm-hm. They- they make 'em there in New Jersey and then they send them to India1273.9147
1029PRV_int_011274.3217Mm-hm.1274.7099
1030PRV_se0_ag1_m_011274.8850to be beaded. And then they s-1276.2889
1032 1276.4971the people in India sent them back to us.1278.7834 
1033PRV_int_011278.8355Wow.1279.1905
1035 1280.1324And who paid for that?1281.0412 
1037 1281.2049<laugh>1281.7824 
1039 1282.2463<laugh>1282.6249 
1040PRV_se0_ag1_m_011282.8332She [did.]1283.3469
1041PRV_int_011283.0793[Okay. <laugh> That's pretty nice.]1285.2378
1042PRV_se0_ag1_m_011283.8840[<laugh>]1284.9964
1043PRV_int_011285.7395Wow.1286.0993
1044PRV_se0_ag1_m_011286.4070That's the kind of person- that's why I- I-1287.9575
1046 1288.3315I'll be glad when you-1289.5574 
1048 1289.9787if you get a chance to interview her because she's a-1292.3265 
1050 1293.1643she's a good person.1294.1753 
1052 1294.6439She'll give you the-1295.4249 
1054 1296.0923she'll give you the shirt off her back.1297.4792 
1055PRV_int_011297.6401Yeah.1297.9762
1057 1298.5679Yeah, she seems really nice.1300.0859 
1059 1300.2179She does.1300.6817 
1061 1301.5243Yeah, I wanna get a chance to interview her definitely. I'm-1304.5584 
1063 1304.9371I'm sure I'll be back if she- if she lets me.1307.4107 
1065 1308.8165Seems like a good place to just kind of hang out.1310.9797 
1066PRV_se0_ag1_m_011312.2179I try not to stay too long.1313.4202
1067PRV_int_011313.5054<laugh>1314.3242
1068PRV_se0_ag1_m_011314.7313Women and gossiping, <laugh>1316.4685
1069PRV_int_011316.4760<laugh>1317.4558
1070PRV_se0_ag1_m_011317.6072not too good.1318.3362
1071PRV_int_011319.4249No?1319.8083
1073 1320.0639/unintelligible/1320.8639 
1074PRV_se0_ag1_m_011320.8733<laugh>1321.4177
1075PRV_int_011321.4271<laugh>1321.9620
1077 1323.1197<cough>1324.2273 
1079 1326.1349Hm.1326.4994 
1081 1327.9478Um,1328.2933 
1083 1331.9976what was I gonna ask?1332.9585 
1085 1333.3656Oh uh,1334.0377 
1087 1334.2697so1334.6200 
1089 1341.3584so then1341.9386 
1091 1343.5527uh,1343.9408 
1093 1344.8307so in terms of Princeville, again, well I think you were telling me about this like,1347.7019 
1095 1348.8947you know,1349.3160 
1097 1349.5290what it's like today?1350.7029 
1099 1351.1857You know, what-1351.8295 
1101 1352.7146what is- you- what is-1353.7398 
1103 1355.1077what are some of the positive things that are happening in Princeville in terms of1358.3975 
1105 1359.2258you know, just1359.7500 
1107 1360.0522different activities or1361.3728 
1109 1361.5480people who aren't1362.3337 
1111 1363.0579still you know kind of /unintelligible/.1364.5632 
1112PRV_se0_ag1_m_011364.7336Think the best thing that Princeville has going for them now is the Boys and Girls Club.1369.6212
1113PRV_int_011369.6401Really?1369.9809
1114PRV_se0_ag1_m_011370.1987<ts> That's about all I can think of.1372.2368
1116 1372.4403Um,1372.7859 
1118 1373.2829the church that my grandmother was a member of, they have1375.7301 
1120 1376.0472I think it's Monday night, but they have the nights for the kids.1379.0462 
1121PRV_int_011379.1787Mm-hm.1379.5953
1122PRV_se0_ag1_m_011379.8604But other than that, just them and- and the Boys and Girls Club. It-1382.8945
1124 1383.2495basically keep1384.1279 
1126 1384.9563the children1385.6284 
1128 1385.9598off the streets and out of trouble.1387.5502 
1129PRV_int_011387.6969[Mm-hm.]1388.0803
1130PRV_se0_ag1_m_011387.7253[I wish they] had something like for that adults but the adults really should know better.1392.1328
1131PRV_int_011392.1633<laugh>1392.8402
1132PRV_se0_ag1_m_011392.8686And- they're old enough to know better1394.2839
1133PRV_int_011394.2886[Mm-hm.]1394.7856
1134PRV_se0_ag1_m_011394.5726[and to] do the things that they're doing.1396.0427
1135PRV_int_011396.2936Mm-hm.1396.7101
1137 1397.7136So you- you /?/- <cough> what kinds of things does the Boys and Girls Club do?1401.5856 
1138PRV_se0_ag1_m_011402.4971I haven't really1403.2403
1139PRV_int_011403.3681[<cough>]1404.0024
1140PRV_se0_ag1_m_011403.5006[been in there] but once or twice, [but]1405.5549
1141PRV_int_011405.2520[Mm-hm.]1405.6070
1142 1406.8452Mm-hm.1407.2002
1143PRV_se0_ag1_m_011407.1860they do a lot of activities within the building.1409.3255
1144PRV_int_011409.4060[Mm-hm.]1409.8604
1145PRV_se0_ag1_m_011409.5716[And then] they may take 'em out maybe once or twice a week.1412.3972
1146PRV_int_011412.4590Yeah.1412.7710
1148 1414.0427Okay.1414.4498 
1150 1414.8048And just different activities [/or/?]1416.4568 
1151PRV_se0_ag1_m_011416.0450[Yes sir.]1416.5041
1152PRV_int_011416.9680What was around- what was around when- when you were a kid? Was there uh, a lot of stuff to do?1421.3918
1153PRV_se0_ag1_m_011421.8320Mm.1422.3668
1154PRV_int_011422.5893<clears throat>1423.1952
1156 1424.0851What kinds of things did you like to do when you were-1425.8818 
1157PRV_se0_ag1_m_011425.8155There were tons of playgrounds in Princeville, I do remember that.1429.2425
1158PRV_int_011429.3561Really?1429.7159
1159PRV_se0_ag1_m_011429.9762There was tons of playgrounds and basically just going to-1433.2687
1161 1434.2296can't say friends,1435.3673 
1163 1435.7348basically everybody was your family members, [but just] going to somebody's house1439.4012 
1164PRV_int_011437.6025[Mm-hm.]1437.9765
1166 1439.3492Yeah.1439.8036 
1167PRV_se0_ag1_m_011439.9219even if it meant them coming back to my house because my back yard was just like a jungle gym so most of the time and that's where all of the kids were.1446.1538
1168PRV_int_011446.2248Okay.1446.6130
1169PRV_se0_ag1_m_011446.7171At my house.1447.3940
1170PRV_int_011447.4366Mm-hm.1447.8673
1172 1448.6322Okay.1449.0676 
1174 1450.0380And so you use to-1451.0983 
1176 1451.5385so-1451.8793 
1178 1452.8165what types of things- do you remember any games you used to play or like [what games-]1456.8379 
1179PRV_se0_ag1_m_011456.5161[Let's see], Hide and Seek,1457.8604
1180 1458.1728hopscotch,1459.2520
1182 1460.4543um, basketball.1461.9765 
1183PRV_int_011462.1516Yeah.1462.4687
1184PRV_se0_ag1_m_011463.1030Uh,1463.4296
1186 1463.5811/RD-NAME-2/ got me started1465.1100 
1187PRV_int_011465.3656[Yeah.]1465.6212
1188PRV_se0_ag1_m_011465.4461[in] tennis.1466.1087
1189 1466.3454He was-1466.5821
1190PRV_int_011466.5064Oh [really?]1466.9371
1191PRV_se0_ag1_m_011466.6910[They] used to tease me and call me white boy, [wanted play] tennis.1469.6426
1192PRV_int_011468.4687[<laugh>]1469.2356
1193PRV_se0_ag1_m_011470.8260Um-1471.3845
1194PRV_int_011472.0851So not too many people played tennis with you?1474.0806
1196 1474.4025Was it you and [/RD-NAME-2/?]1475.5006 
1197PRV_se0_ag1_m_011475.1409[It was] just me and Uncle /RD-NAME-2/.1476.7615
1198PRV_int_011476.6366<laugh>1477.6496
1199PRV_se0_ag1_m_011477.7064Um,1478.2129
1201 1478.6152badminton,1479.6593 
1202PRV_int_011479.8581Uh-huh.1480.3393
1203PRV_se0_ag1_m_011483.0011think the best one though was playing in the mud. I think I played in the mud [til I was about] ten.1486.8158
1204PRV_int_011485.6925[<laugh>]1486.2273
1205 1486.9657[Really?]1487.6994
1206PRV_se0_ag1_m_011486.9752[<laugh>]1488.3905
1207PRV_int_011488.5041So you had the creativity in you- [in you?]1490.6484
1208PRV_se0_ag1_m_011490.3265[Yeah I was] building1491.1596
1209 1491.4605cause at one point I wanted to be an architect, so I would1493.6521
1211 1494.3952just1494.6414 
1213 1494.8213wet the whole backyard up,1496.3839 
1214PRV_int_011496.3786[<laugh>]1496.8519
1215PRV_se0_ag1_m_011496.5639[and just]1496.9513
1216 1497.1028dig up all the mud and make like my own little communities with the- the [river and streets] and-1502.2744
1217PRV_int_011500.9680[<laugh>]1501.5786
1218 1503.0507Yeah.1503.3489
1219PRV_se0_ag1_m_011503.4652I was real creative1504.4971
1220PRV_int_011504.6249Yeah.1504.9089
1221PRV_se0_ag1_m_011504.8332with- with that.1505.6237
1222 1505.8320[And then] my grandma would just drive up in the driveway and just run over all over it. [It's like, I] told you about building this stuff in my driveway.1511.5243
1223PRV_int_011505.8320[Uh-]1506.0734
1225 1508.9777[Aw!]1509.3280 
1226 1511.5811<laugh>1512.9680
1228 1513.2141Aw, that's hilarious.1514.1797 
1230 1514.6862<laugh>1515.1548 
1232 1515.3138Yeah.1515.7587 
1234 1515.9528I used to do something like [/that too/.]1517.6924 
1235PRV_se0_ag1_m_011517.2356[<laugh>]1518.0355
1236PRV_int_011519.0201<cough>1519.9809
1238 1520.8898<ts> Okay and uh,1522.4214 
1240 1523.3634you- uh-1523.9361 
1242 1525.5739/?/1525.9147 
1244 1526.0046you keep- were talking about1526.9276 
1246 1527.2806riding bikes around town [and stuff like] that?1529.6237 
1247PRV_se0_ag1_m_011528.6959Mm-hm.1529.1645
1248 1530.2627Now see we were- we were special kids. We always had like,1533.3706
1250 1534.0191one step above what everybody else had because other people would ride bikes. We had scooters and then1539.3868 
1252 1539.8865Uncle /RD-NAME-2/ had1540.8663 
1254 1541.3255the scooter that he used to take us1543.0816 
1256 1543.2283riding on while everybody else was riding bikes, he was on his scooter and he had at least one or two of us on the back of it.1548.9917 
1257PRV_int_011548.9585Uh-huh.1549.2757
1258PRV_se0_ag1_m_011549.6449So everything-1550.3786
1260 1551.7919that was /RD-NAME-1/'s fault. [Everything that the other] kids did we did but two times better.1556.7620 
1261PRV_int_011553.0273[<laugh>]1554.0118
1263 1556.7052<laugh>1557.3300 
1264PRV_se0_ag1_m_011557.4132<laugh>1558.0853
1265PRV_int_011557.9623Okay.1558.3693
1266 1558.5634Okay.1558.9231
1267PRV_se0_ag1_m_011559.3492She's like, okay, they have this? I'm gonna get this for [you. I'm gonna-] this that and the other.1563.1643
1268PRV_int_011561.5455[/Unintelligible/]1562.3880
1269PRV_se0_ag1_m_011563.3895That's just1564.0948
1271 1564.4261the way she is.1565.2592 
1272PRV_int_011565.4202You had a good-1566.1349
1274 1566.4331good life1567.1496 
1276 1567.3561as a child.1567.9525 
1278 1568.2460<laugh>1568.6957 
1280 1568.8188That's good.1569.3868 
1282 1571.7657Um,1572.1633 
1284 1573.9904so what-1574.5632 
1286 1575.1481is there anything else like a- about1577.1645 
1288 1577.9882Princeville that1578.9321 
1290 1579.1905you know, is-1579.7332 
1292 1580.5679is good to know or understand?1582.4499 
1294 1582.7338I mean it sounds like, from talking to other people, and-1585.0106 
1296 1586.8140there's a relationship with Tarboro1588.4924 
1297PRV_se0_ag1_m_011588.4719[Mm-hm.]1588.8583
1298PRV_int_011588.6912[You got] all these /??/ shops here and-1590.8781
1299PRV_se0_ag1_m_011590.8071They have the same1592.3123
1300 1592.4780zip code,1593.4388
1301PRV_int_011593.6877Mm-hm.1594.2084
1302PRV_se0_ag1_m_011594.3551but it's still like Princeville is basically1597.1195
1304 1597.3798a neighborhood.1598.2318 
1305PRV_int_011598.3312Mm-hm.1598.8424
1307 1599.6593Mkay.1600.0096 
1308PRV_se0_ag1_m_011600.0096It's basically a neighborhood. But you still have a lot of people, older people, that are over there when they address their mail, they will put Princeville,1606.2063
1309PRV_int_011606.4498Mm-hm.1606.9279
1310PRV_se0_ag1_m_011606.9515North Carolina two seven eight eight six.1609.1147
1311PRV_int_011609.0674Mm-hm.1609.4319
1312PRV_se0_ag1_m_011609.4271And that's the same as Tarboro, [so]1611.3300
1313PRV_int_011611.0629[Yeah.]1611.3280
1314PRV_se0_ag1_m_011612.5113I don't know why they did it like that, but1614.4710
1315PRV_int_011614.6508Okay.1615.1195
1316PRV_se0_ag1_m_011615.3372that's how a lot of people do it.1616.9276
1317PRV_int_011617.0250Okay.1617.4700
1318PRV_se0_ag1_m_011617.5599The only thing that separates them is a bridge.1619.5906
1319PRV_int_011619.8840Okay.1620.3100
1320PRV_se0_ag1_m_011620.3195That's it.1620.7218
1321PRV_int_011620.9775Yeah.1621.3112
1322PRV_se0_ag1_m_011621.8721Only way in, only way out.1623.3043
1323PRV_int_011623.6546Yeah.1624.0191
1325 1625.0083And is- what's that relationship like? Between people in Tarboro and Princeville?1628.5442 
1326PRV_se0_ag1_m_011629.5694Well with the younger people,1631.0415
1328 1632.3858they fight a lot, and I don't understand why.1634.6342 
1329PRV_int_011634.8708[Yeah.]1635.2258
1330PRV_se0_ag1_m_011635.0176[Because] you're separated by a bridge and under that bridge is the Tar river and you're all drinking the same water. [So I don't] understand.1641.0507
1331PRV_int_011640.0472[Mm.]1640.3691
1332PRV_se0_ag1_m_011641.8676Really if you go in parts of East Tarboro you can look over and see Princeville.1646.4417
1333PRV_int_011646.5300Mm-hm.1646.8850
1334PRV_se0_ag1_m_011646.8803Even though1647.6566
1335 1647.9481looking at it from the bridge's point, it's like a mile apart.1650.8923
1336PRV_int_011650.9869Mm-hm.1651.3372
1337PRV_se0_ag1_m_011651.5076But it's like actually a part where it's nothing but fields where East Tarboro meets1655.2876
1339 1655.7089Princeville. So I don't understand why1657.3183 
1340PRV_int_011657.7443Mm-hm.1658.0945
1341PRV_se0_ag1_m_011658.2933there's so much1658.9304
1343 1659.2428animosity but my grandmother said it's- that was going on even when she was1663.1147 
1345 1663.3609a kid and she was born in thirty eight.1665.1075 
1346PRV_int_011665.2759Really? [Wow.]1665.9339
1347PRV_se0_ag1_m_011665.6356[So she said] it's been going on that long.1667.3302
1348PRV_int_011667.3728Hm.1667.7373
1350 1668.3479Did she tell you anything else about that?1669.9194 
1351PRV_se0_ag1_m_011671.6214She always told me that Princeville won.1673.5006
1352PRV_int_011673.7420[<laugh>]1675.4839
1353PRV_se0_ag1_m_011673.7610[<laugh> Anytime they would /fall/ (laughing)]1675.4271
1354PRV_int_011676.3123[/Inaudible/]1676.8708
1355PRV_se0_ag1_m_011676.4306[She said] that1677.0507
1356 1677.2049tougher people1678.0143
1358 1678.1942come from Princeville1679.2119 
1359PRV_int_011679.2592Okay.1679.7231
1360PRV_se0_ag1_m_011680.0828because the-1680.8071
1362 1681.3041the means of living there was rougher than what Tarboro- because we had to go to Tarboro for everything.1685.8367 
1363PRV_int_011685.8414Yeah.1686.2012
1364PRV_se0_ag1_m_011686.4757It's nothing.1687.1573
1365PRV_int_011687.2757Mm-hm.1687.7348
1366PRV_se0_ag1_m_011688.1324The- the most your gonna find in Princeville is probably a mechanic1690.8190
1368 1691.3018and a1691.5338 
1370 1691.7515store.1692.2012 
1371PRV_int_011692.4284Hm.1692.7644
1372PRV_se0_ag1_m_011693.5313That's about it.1694.1277
1373PRV_int_011694.3596Mm-hm.1694.7667
1374PRV_se0_ag1_m_011694.7052A couple of beauty salons.1695.9007
1375PRV_int_011695.9812Mkay.1696.4072
1376PRV_se0_ag1_m_011697.1125That's about it.1697.7846
1377PRV_int_011697.8651Yeah.1698.1822
1379 1700.4117<cough>1701.0412 
1381 1701.2570/unintelligible/ Princeville /???/.1702.9881 
1382PRV_se0_ag1_m_011703.2214That's what she said.1704.0686
1383PRV_int_011704.0308<laugh>1704.4568
1384PRV_se0_ag1_m_011704.3952I don't know how to sing that part [yet.]1705.8153
1385PRV_int_011705.6401[<laugh>]1706.0093
1386 1706.9777Do you remember any of the stories your grandma used to tell you?1709.3870
1387PRV_se0_ag1_m_011710.9491My grandmother1711.8863
1389 1712.8803knew everyone,1714.1374 
1391 1714.3741and she1714.8237 
1393 1715.4154only knew them by their nicknames is what used to trip me out.1718.6578 
1394PRV_int_011718.6531Mm-hm.1718.9892
1395PRV_se0_ag1_m_011718.9229She never knew 'em by their real names. She1720.7953
1396 1721.1929would tell us stories1722.2154
1398 1722.9964of people, and1724.0283 
1400 1724.3644we're just sitting back snickering, like where do they get these names from?1728.0544 
1401PRV_int_011728.0781Mm-hm.1728.5183
1402PRV_se0_ag1_m_011728.6508And she's like, I don't know. That's the only name I know them by.1731.1880
1403PRV_int_011731.5836Yeah.1731.9433
1405 1736.6578So1737.0696 
1407 1737.9954what she would tell you1738.8357 
1409 1739.2971by1739.5953 
1411 1739.8462different names, she would [like-]1741.1302 
1412PRV_se0_ag1_m_011740.9065[Different-]1741.5313
1413 1741.7537ch-1741.9809
1415 1742.4164people that she knew,1743.4862 
1416PRV_int_011743.8345Mm.1744.1137
1417PRV_se0_ag1_m_011744.5587or that her mother knew.1745.7988
1418PRV_int_011746.2012Yeah.1746.5041
1419PRV_se0_ag1_m_011746.6982It was basically if her mother knew 'em she knew 'em.1748.6531
1420PRV_int_011748.8357Mm-hm.1749.2333
1422 1750.4119Okay.1750.8332 
1423PRV_se0_ag1_m_011751.1361She just knew everything about everybody.1752.8449
1425 1752.9964[<laugh>]1754.0898 
1426PRV_int_011753.0532[Yeah. <laugh>]1754.4874
1427 1755.2191Do you remember any advice she used to give you or anything like that?1758.0686
1428PRV_se0_ag1_m_011759.0958One thing that sticks in my mind is that because I didn't grow up in the house with1763.8604
1430 1764.7076my sister,1765.5123 
1431PRV_int_011765.8200Mm-hm.1766.1466
1432PRV_se0_ag1_m_011766.9750her daughter and I1768.2037
1434 1768.5729were1768.8758 
1436 1769.6048really close because all of us stayed in the house together and my sister stayed with my mother and my father.1774.3457 
1437PRV_int_011774.5066Mm-hm.1774.8900
1438PRV_se0_ag1_m_011774.9184And1775.2498
1440 1775.5196I used to mistreat1776.6792 
1442 1777.5833my sister,1778.3312 
1443PRV_int_011778.6200Oh okay.1779.2306
1444PRV_se0_ag1_m_011779.2996and I treated her daughter more she was my sister because I saw her every day.1783.0532
1445PRV_int_011783.0485Okay.1783.5597
1446PRV_se0_ag1_m_011783.7206And1784.0709
1448 1784.6815my grandmother1785.4104 
1450 1785.9007told me, she-1786.5681 
1452 1786.7480she made us um,1788.1538 
1454 1788.7029get along with each other because we used to fight like cats and dogs.1791.6688 
1455PRV_int_011791.7587Mm-hm.1792.2179
1456PRV_se0_ag1_m_011792.3977And so you would never know who would1794.1349
1458 1794.4473have to be the last person to do something for you,1797.0980 
1460 1797.3185and if your sister is the last person that has to do something for you, she's gonna remember1801.3088 
1462 1801.8815all the times that you mistreated her, and she may just pass you by.1805.0178 
1463PRV_int_011805.1219Mm-hm.1805.6284
1464PRV_se0_ag1_m_011806.0118So ever since then, my sister and I1808.2981
1466 1808.6342are just like this.1809.6703 
1467PRV_int_011809.6877Wow.1810.0380
1468PRV_se0_ag1_m_011810.1753And when she's not in school, when you see me,1812.5514
1470 1812.9727she's two steps behind me.1814.5821 
1471PRV_int_011814.6200Mkay.1815.0838
1472PRV_se0_ag1_m_011815.0440She's not too far behind me.1816.3125
1473PRV_int_011816.4403How old is your sister?1817.3492
1474PRV_se0_ag1_m_011817.3539She's twenty one now.1818.3526
1475PRV_int_011818.3479Okay. Okay.1819.2993
1476 1819.6259Do you kind of look out for your sister?1820.8803
1477PRV_se0_ag1_m_011820.7478Mm-hm.1821.0791
1478PRV_int_011821.6404And what does she- what does she /inaudible/?1824.2012
1479PRV_se0_ag1_m_011824.4804She's a junior1825.8863
1481 1826.0093at North Carolina State majoring in Criminology.1828.5303 
1482PRV_int_011828.7811Oh wow.1829.2545
1484 1830.1065And why did she- how did she get into that?1831.6685 
1485PRV_se0_ag1_m_011833.4530I think she really wants to do forensic science. She's always had an infatuation with dead people.1838.4448
1486PRV_int_011838.4922Mkay.1839.0460
1487PRV_se0_ag1_m_011839.3564I don't know why. She's really scary, but she loves dead [people.]1842.6934
1488PRV_int_011842.4899[Okay.]1843.1668
1489 1843.9052Hm.1844.2129
1491 1844.5659[/What does that] mean?1845.3516 
1492PRV_se0_ag1_m_011844.6058[<laugh>]1845.0365
1493PRV_int_011846.3173So she likes it there, [at N.] C. State?1848.3167
1494PRV_se0_ag1_m_011847.5054[Mm-hm.]1847.8130
1495 1848.3337Mm-hm.1848.6130
1496PRV_int_011848.4899Okay. She commutes or1849.8200
1497 1850.0425staying up there?1850.5442
1498PRV_se0_ag1_m_011850.3786She stays up there,1851.4341
1499PRV_int_011851.4037Okay.1851.7303
1500PRV_se0_ag1_m_011851.7209and she sh-1852.3551
1501 1852.5729might as well commute because if I'm not up there, my mother's up there, so we see her at least two or three times a week.1858.0475
1502PRV_int_011857.9528Oh really?1858.4782
1503 1858.6439Uh-huh.1859.0367
1505 1859.7373And you go up there and1860.8118 
1507 1861.0627just1861.4177 
1509 1861.7679cause you're- you're still in1862.9986 
1511 1863.3895school /inaudible/?1864.2037 
1512PRV_se0_ag1_m_011864.2037I'm not back in [school yet.]1865.5480
1513PRV_int_011865.0131[Oh you- Oh, okay,] that's right. Cause you going to Charlotte. [So you just] go up to visit a lot?1867.9431
1514PRV_se0_ag1_m_011866.7644[Mm-hm.]1867.0532
1516 1867.8484Mm-hm.1868.1892 
1517PRV_int_011868.3217Oh nice.1868.8188
1519 1869.3658Everybody says they either c- everyone who's out there says they come home every weekend and-1873.4981 
1520PRV_se0_ag1_m_011873.5502I love her school.1874.5774
1521PRV_int_011874.6673Yeah.1875.0034
1522PRV_se0_ag1_m_011874.9966I was accepted and I didn't go. I wish I had gone. [<laugh>]1878.4757
1523PRV_int_011877.6710[Really?]1878.0686
1524 1878.5798Okay.1879.0343
1526 1879.4413What do you like about State?1880.4638 
1527PRV_se0_ag1_m_011881.8629It's just1882.3457
1529 1882.7811the campus- the campus is beautiful.1884.8639 
1530PRV_int_011885.1763Uh-huh.1885.4461
1531PRV_se0_ag1_m_011885.3987Um,1885.9147
1532 1886.0993the academics are good. The people are nice.1888.5397
1534 1888.8048I mean, I haven't seen anything at that school out of place.1892.1324 
1535PRV_int_011892.1845Hm.1892.4543
1536PRV_se0_ag1_m_011892.8235Don't see anybody mistreating it- If it goes on, I don't see it.1895.8225
1537PRV_int_011895.8462Mm-hm.1896.3716
1538PRV_se0_ag1_m_011896.8923/??/ everybody's happy go lucky, and it's like every time I go there the sun is always out. It [never] rains, [so.]1902.0936
1539PRV_int_011900.8285[<laugh>]1901.0983
1541 1901.5622[<laugh>]1901.9124 
1542 1902.6366I'll- I can attest to the [fact that it does] rain. [<laugh>]1905.9197
1543PRV_se0_ag1_m_011903.8389[<laugh>]1904.5158
1545 1904.8472[<laugh>]1905.7500 
1546PRV_int_011906.4687<laugh> That's funny.1907.6900
1548 1908.2390Speaking of uh, /RD-NAME-3/, I was gonna ask you about- were- were you- were you here during the flood1912.9192 
1549PRV_se0_ag1_m_011913.0793[Mm-hm.]1913.3586
1550PRV_int_011913.1835[in] ninety nine?1913.7231
1551PRV_se0_ag1_m_011913.8130[Mm-hm.]1914.0592
1552PRV_int_011913.9077[Were you-] uh- what- what do you remember from the flood?1916.4924
1553PRV_se0_ag1_m_011916.4780I had just gotten home from school.1918.7906
1554PRV_int_011918.9279Uh-huh.1919.2403
1555PRV_se0_ag1_m_011919.5290I left school that1920.6982
1557 1921.3135January of ninety nine.1922.8850 
1558PRV_int_011923.1170Uh-huh.1923.4010
1559PRV_se0_ag1_m_011923.3706So I only been home about nine months, and I often think that if I stayed at A and T I wouldn't have lost all my clothes.1929.2874
1560PRV_int_011929.2570Mm.1929.6474
1561PRV_se0_ag1_m_011930.1563But1930.3646
1563 1931.1172um,1931.6284 
1565 1931.8935I left for1932.8733 
1567 1934.0425work that morning. My grandmother and I left for work,1936.5539 
1569 1938.4757and she just told me to pack an outfit or two because1942.3474 
1571 1942.8379they're thinking about1943.8367 
1573 1944.9017that the dam might break and that it might flood a little. And from what she told me of the flood in fifty nine it was only about two feet of water, so that's all1952.4969 
1574PRV_int_011952.6010Mm yeah.1952.9229
1575PRV_se0_ag1_m_011953.1406that we1953.7493
1577 1954.4971were expecting.1955.3350 
1579 1955.5432On my way to work that morning1957.1715 
1581 1957.5928I was in a car accident. My car hydroplaned,1959.9433 
1582PRV_int_011960.1753Oh wow.1960.6324
1583PRV_se0_ag1_m_011960.8427so I came back home,1962.0497
1585 1963.5076and that's when1964.1229 
1587 1964.4070I heard of everything that was going on and that they were trying to get everybody1967.7988 
1589 1968.8165out of Princeville, so I didn't have time to-1971.0507 
1591 1971.4794to go back to get1972.5729 
1593 1973.4486any of my belongings.1974.8639 
1594PRV_int_011974.8449Mm-hm.1975.2899
1595PRV_se0_ag1_m_011975.6354Cause it was too late.1976.6673
1596PRV_int_011976.9466Yeah.1977.3536
1598 1978.2936So what did you guys do then?1979.5148 
1599PRV_se0_ag1_m_011980.9822For two weeks.1982.2886
1600PRV_int_011982.9324Well what did- once you came back home, you just grabbed some stuff?1985.8813
1601PRV_se0_ag1_m_011986.2958Oh well I grabbed some stuff before I left home that morning,1988.8235
1602PRV_int_011988.8140Okay.1989.2495
1603PRV_se0_ag1_m_011989.3374and then,1990.0617
1605 1990.2463because we couldn't go back1991.4107 
1607 1991.6616to Princeville, everybody went to my aunt /RD-NAME-1/'s house.1994.4900 
1608PRV_int_011994.3738Okay.1994.7241
1609PRV_se0_ag1_m_011994.7762That's where everyone1995.4341
1611 1995.6593met.1995.9812 
1612PRV_int_011996.1374Okay.1996.7243
1614 1997.6284And so1998.1160 
1616 1998.3479you just stayed there.1999.2757 
1617PRV_se0_ag1_m_011999.2946Just [stayed there.]2000.1703
1618PRV_int_011999.5928[Everyone kind of]2000.3170
1619PRV_se0_ag1_m_012000.8661[And then got] the notice2002.2368
1620PRV_int_012000.8661[/Unintelligible/]2001.4862
1621PRV_se0_ag1_m_012002.4971of the water.2003.5906
1623 2003.8225They were2004.0402 
1625 2004.2248sand bagging everything,2005.4413 
1626PRV_int_012005.5928Wow.2005.9620
1627PRV_se0_ag1_m_012006.1277and it didn't do any better and that the water was coming and it was coming fast.2009.8651
1628PRV_int_012009.9361Yeah.2010.2769
1630 2011.2709So, what-2011.8180 
1632 2011.9667what was your reaction then?2013.1643 
1634 2013.5078/inaudible/2013.9859 
1635PRV_se0_ag1_m_012014.2273At that point, I'm going to tell you the truth, I was selfish. The only thing I was thinking about was like, what am I gonna do? I'm losing all of my clothes. I have nothing to wear.2022.4378
1636PRV_int_012022.5562Yeah.2022.8875
1637PRV_se0_ag1_m_012023.0106Not thinking that2023.8437
1639 2024.1561all of my family had gotten out and we were all under the same roof and everybody was okay. I was worried about my [clothes.]2029.6443 
1640PRV_int_012029.2804[Mm-hm.]2029.8626
1641 2030.9513How old were you then?2031.7500
1642PRV_se0_ag1_m_012032.0049I was2032.6249
1644 2033.6994nineteen. I was gonna turn twenty that next week.2036.0851 
1645PRV_int_012036.0709Okay.2036.4732
1646 2036.6152Okay.2036.9892
1648 2037.9812So yeah- so- so you were2039.4486 
1650 2039.6568kind of worried about your [clothes?]2041.0674 
1651PRV_se0_ag1_m_012040.6224[I was-] that's the only thing I was worried about.2042.6531
1652PRV_int_012042.7762And they wouldn't let anybody back into town [/would they/?]2044.9799
1653PRV_se0_ag1_m_012044.3788[No.]2044.8285
1654 2045.0036No.2045.2782
1655PRV_int_012045.9929So then what-2046.6745
1657 2046.8497so then-2047.3987 
1659 2047.5076so then you just kind of heard2048.8566 
1661 2049.4179[about it.]2050.0711 
1662PRV_se0_ag1_m_012049.6072[Heard about] what happened but2051.1977
1663 2051.6663because I hadn't seen it, I didn't know how bad- They said it was bad, but I hadn't seen it for myself so I'm still thinking2056.8711
1665 2057.4580maybe half of my house2059.0958 
1666PRV_int_012059.4697Mm-hm.2059.8531
1667PRV_se0_ag1_m_012059.9241is under water.2060.8330
1668PRV_int_012061.2475Yeah.2061.6214
1669PRV_se0_ag1_m_012061.5883And then when they showed it on TV where you couldn't see anything but water and power lines, that's when it really hit me that okay, everything is gone.2067.9765
1670PRV_int_012068.0711Yeah.2068.4025
1672 2069.4391And the-2069.7184 
1674 2070.1870so what-2070.7076 
1676 2070.9491so that was kind of some sort of like,2072.9560 
1678 2074.0995it hit hard.2074.8663 
1679PRV_se0_ag1_m_012074.9421I think I cried for three days.2076.6130
1680PRV_int_012076.6650Really?2077.0485
1682 2078.1845/??/ I'm sure everybody was upset.2080.0191 
1683PRV_se0_ag1_m_012080.2037Everybody was, yeah.2081.2876
1684PRV_int_012081.1929Yeah.2081.5148
1685 2082.1112But you /?/- you were all together.2083.7490
1686PRV_se0_ag1_m_012083.9478We were all [together.]2084.7789
1687PRV_int_012084.5943[You] and your family.2085.3706
1688PRV_se0_ag1_m_012085.3469Mm-hm.2085.6404
1689PRV_int_012085.9055How did you make it through that time, like with them?2087.7610
1691 2089.3467You remember those times?2090.4212 
1692PRV_se0_ag1_m_012091.2617<ts>2091.3706
1694 2092.7527Basically she set everything up like an assembly line2096.4685 
1695PRV_int_012096.5632[Okay.]2097.0223
1696PRV_se0_ag1_m_012096.7998[because it] was so many people in the house, like, x amount of people had um,2100.7929
1697 2102.1371cars. And it's like certain times that they would open up the grocery stores and you had to line up to go in the grocery stores, and the water was off.2108.7241
1698PRV_int_012108.9655Mm-hm.2109.3347
1699PRV_se0_ag1_m_012109.4132Um,2110.0191
1701 2111.0083people down the street had a well so we would take turns2114.2602 
1703 2114.6389getting the water.2115.5477 
1705 2116.0664Um,2116.6723 
1707 2117.1456we took our baths in shifts.2118.9680 
1708PRV_int_012119.2567Mm-hm.2119.6354
1709PRV_se0_ag1_m_012119.9809Um,2120.6247
1711 2122.6533everything was just like an assembly line. And my grandmother being the person that she was, she2126.9892 
1713 2127.2002had one of the bedrooms and all of the kids were in the den-2130.0734 
1714PRV_int_012130.1538[Okay.]2130.5704
1715PRV_se0_ag1_m_012130.1870[the- the] big room I was telling you about?2131.8484
1716PRV_int_012131.8153Uh-huh.2132.2129
1717PRV_se0_ag1_m_012132.2839And to keep us from disturbing2133.8108
1719 2134.4640my grandmother, she had a refrigerator2136.4568 
1720PRV_int_012136.9633[Okay.]2137.4224
1721PRV_se0_ag1_m_012137.2047[put] down there and there was a bathroom already attached to that den, so we had no reason to come past that area2142.7076
1722PRV_int_012143.0011Okay.2143.3656
1723PRV_se0_ag1_m_012143.6354messing with my grandmother. [Cause like], don't bother her. When she gets in her little mood, just leave her alone. Everything you need is right here in this room. You shouldn't have to leave for anything.2150.9635
1724PRV_int_012144.7978[Yeah.]2145.1434
1725 2150.9777Mm-hm.2151.3090
1726PRV_se0_ag1_m_012151.6167Cause she would complain about the2153.1172
1728 2154.8307smallest noise [that she] would hear.2156.9797 
1729PRV_int_012156.0756[Mm-hm.]2156.5158
1730 2157.1292Mm-hm.2157.5031
1732 2158.8285So you- so kind of like an assembly line.2161.1857 
1733PRV_se0_ag1_m_012161.3419Everything was an assembly line for nine months.2163.6072
1734PRV_int_012163.8771/Yeah, at the house./2164.6533
1736 2165.2971Uh, /someone/ was telling me2166.8402 
1738 2167.8389y'all got up at certain [times /and had-/]2169.8534 
1739PRV_se0_ag1_m_012169.1312[Mm-hm.]2169.5619
1740 2169.8581Cause you had to get up four o'clock in the morning just to stand in line for the grocery store because stuff was getting gone just that quick.2175.0886
1741PRV_int_012175.1623Wow.2175.4672
1743 2176.4782And so /inaudible/ we were saying2178.2958 
1745 2178.5893if you woke up late or something, kind of threw the whole thing off. [<laugh>]2182.0712 
1746PRV_se0_ag1_m_012181.6309[There was] no waking up late.2182.9515
1747PRV_int_012182.8805[<laugh>] Someone will wake you up. [<laugh>]2186.6105
1748PRV_se0_ag1_m_012183.1598[<laugh>]2184.0118
1750 2184.9349[There was no waking up late.]2186.2507 
1751PRV_int_012187.1548Yeah. Wow.2187.9244
1752PRV_se0_ag1_m_012187.8818And she would tell you the night before, okay, this is how who has to do this today, and I'm not playing. You will get up at this time,2193.7500
1753PRV_int_012194.6060<cough>2195.0178
1754PRV_se0_ag1_m_012195.4012to2195.6616
1756 2195.7846get everything done.2196.7360 
1757PRV_int_012196.7597Yeah.2197.1431
1759 2198.1040So then when you finally got a chance to go back into Princeville,2201.4344 
1760PRV_se0_ag1_m_012201.4296Mm-hm.2201.8036
1761PRV_int_012201.7468what was that like?2202.4710
1762PRV_se0_ag1_m_012203.2520Um, they had on the news that2204.8992
1764 2205.0980if2205.3915 
1766 2206.2226your clothes were still in your room that they could be washed2209.0343 
1768 2209.2615in ammonia,2209.9904 
1770 2211.0933and when I got back2212.3646 
1772 2212.4971to Princeville, the contractors that were supposed to have been tearing down the house,2216.1703 
1773PRV_int_012216.2602Mm-hm.2216.5726
1774PRV_se0_ag1_m_012217.9859tell him I'll call him back.2219.0462
1776 2219.2356Is it /RD-NAME-2/?2219.9834 
1777misc2221.2189/inaudible/2222.0898
1778PRV_int_012222.0945You can take that if you want to.2223.4104
1780 2223.7777Of course.2224.2321 
1781PRV_se0_ag1_m_012224.1658<laugh>2224.4924
1782misc2224.4829/inaudible/2225.6805
1783 2226.7644Um.2227.2094
1784PRV_se0_ag1_m_012228.5584Okay.2228.8803
1785PRV_int_012229.0460So your clothes2229.9339
1787 2230.1043/?/-2230.3315 
1788PRV_se0_ag1_m_012230.6912Yeah when I got back in the house, the contractors that were supposed to been condemning the house,2234.5442
1790 2234.7241they were in there stealing.2235.7966 
1791PRV_int_012235.8581Mm-hm.2236.3315
1792PRV_se0_ag1_m_012236.4687I'm not saying that they stole my stuff, but when I looked down the hall, they had armful of stuff.2240.4543
1793PRV_int_012240.3975Wow.2240.7241
1794PRV_se0_ag1_m_012241.1122Um,2241.6092
1796 2241.9670but when I went in my room the only thing that was left in my room was a bed.2245.1384 
1798 2245.2851I had a-2245.7490 
1800 2246.1324two trunks full of sweaters.2247.6120 
1802 2248.6675I had two closets and there was nothing in either one of [my] closets, so someone /vandal-/2253.2164 
1803PRV_int_012251.5691[Hm.]2251.8437
1804PRV_se0_ag1_m_012253.4700And I mean it was just that quick. It's the same day that they opened Princeville back up, we got up and we went over there. My stuff was gone just that quick.2259.7919
1805PRV_int_012259.8155Mm.2260.2084
1807 2260.4309Wow.2260.7101 
1809 2261.7610Okay.2262.2326 
1811 2262.6035So2262.9822 
1813 2263.2851so then2263.9573 
1815 2264.7099you kind of-2265.2744 
1817 2265.4889from that point just kind of had to start from scratch?2267.6905 
1818PRV_se0_ag1_m_012267.6710Had to start over. That's when FEMA2269.7253
1819 2270.5490came in2271.1927
1820PRV_int_012271.3090Mm-hm.2271.6830
1821PRV_se0_ag1_m_012272.2368and they would ask you questions about a-2274.5846
1823 2274.7976about how much money do you think you had spent on your clothes, and when I told 'em they didn't believe me but I kept receipts of [everything. So]2281.0911 
1824PRV_int_012280.7076[Mm-hm.]2281.1459
1825PRV_se0_ag1_m_012281.5644they didn't send me2282.3880
1827 2283.1718all of it2283.9055 
1829 2284.2368but they sent me enough to get my-2286.3574 
1831 2286.5846my wardrobe started again. And then my job2288.7525 
1833 2289.4889um,2289.9575 
1835 2290.7906gave me some money also.2292.4899 
1836PRV_int_012292.6887Uh-huh.2293.0863
1837PRV_se0_ag1_m_012293.5123So that was2294.1371
1839 2294.5348more than enough for me to2295.9528 
1841 2297.3870get my-2298.0308 
1843 2298.2580my2298.5514 
1845 2299.0816closet started back [up again.]2300.7288 
1846PRV_int_012300.2886[Okay.]2300.7809
1847 2301.9007/inaudible/2302.4735
1848PRV_se0_ag1_m_012302.4498Was buying plenty clothes and still didn't have anywhere to put 'em because [I was] still in her house.2306.6334
1849PRV_int_012305.3987[Yeah.]2305.7301
1851 2306.6105Okay.2307.1122 
1852 2307.7445Well that's true.2308.3267
1853PRV_se0_ag1_m_012308.5255<laugh>2309.4675
1854PRV_int_012309.7231But hey you're- you know, you're a fashion designer, you [got to have-]2312.3359
1855PRV_se0_ag1_m_012311.5218[<laugh>]2312.2176
1856PRV_int_012312.6200got to have your clothes, /right/? <laugh>2314.6344
1857PRV_se0_ag1_m_012314.5634Everybody used the same closet.2316.2343
1858PRV_int_012316.4426[Yeah.]2316.7692
1859PRV_se0_ag1_m_012316.5704[Also] in that room,2317.7395
1860 2318.2839the den, it- it had a bathroom and it had a walk in closet.2321.4533
1862 2322.1018H- how many people used that closet?2323.6875 
1863misc2325.4416About eighteen of them.2326.7243
1864PRV_int_012326.5634<laugh> Oh wow.2327.4628
1865misc2327.6947But we had stackables.2329.0816
1866PRV_se0_ag1_m_012329.1526They had stackables. Everybody had their own stackables [that-]2331.9575
1867PRV_int_012331.7019[Mm-hm.]2332.1279
1868PRV_se0_ag1_m_012332.2794with their name on it. You put2333.6000
1870 2333.9834anything that didn't fit in the- uh- that closet looked like a disaster area. [You just] take and throw stuff in there. There was stuff all over everywhere.2340.3621 
1871PRV_int_012337.3327[Mm.]2337.5788
1873 2340.2059Mm-hm-hm.2340.9585 
1874 2342.3738Wow.2342.7383
1875PRV_se0_ag1_m_012342.8546We had some cousins that were complaining about, you have on my outfit. It was like, okay, we only have two so we have to [switch up. We can't look] the same every day.2350.0143
1876PRV_int_012348.2535[<laugh>]2349.0724
1877 2350.0333Right.2350.4119
1878PRV_se0_ag1_m_012350.6297[<laugh>]2351.3397
1879PRV_int_012350.9989[<laugh>]2351.5622
1880 2352.0308<cough>2352.7360
1881PRV_se0_ag1_m_012352.8118It was a- it was a lot of sharing clothes. [And if] it didn't fit, we made it fit.2356.7291
1882PRV_int_012354.8262[Mm-hm.]2355.2333
1883 2356.8900Yeah.2357.0983
1884PRV_se0_ag1_m_012357.0225<laugh>2357.5858
1885PRV_int_012358.3479So you said FEMA came in and then2360.2113
1887 2360.8519that's when you-2361.4984 
1889 2362.3457you got some- some help to- to rebuild [houses?]2365.2047 
1890PRV_se0_ag1_m_012364.8686[Mm-hm.]2365.2378
1891PRV_int_012365.6922You know,2366.0898
1893 2366.3644how did that work?2367.1738 
1894PRV_se0_ag1_m_012367.6546<ts>2367.7635
1896 2368.1705It was a long drawn out process. It's a lot of stuff you had to go through. A lot of people2373.1643 
1898 2373.4936got grants.2374.4261 
1900 2375.1030I don't think it was fair the way they did it because a lot of the younger people that could get out and work,2379.3469 
1902 2379.4936they received grants and they gave a lot of these elderly people loans.2383.0248 
1903PRV_int_012383.1053Mm-hm.2383.4650
1904PRV_se0_ag1_m_012383.4271Thirty year loans.2384.4590
1905PRV_int_012384.7572Yeah.2385.0791
1906PRV_se0_ag1_m_012385.0629I mean tomorrow's not promised to anyone but I still thought it was unfair.2388.6745
1907PRV_int_012388.7218Yeah.2389.0769
1909 2390.9324So- so you family got2392.5871 
1911 2392.9752enough that- your- you said your mother2394.7929 
1913 2395.3041was-2395.6307 
1914PRV_se0_ag1_m_012395.8105My mother, she received2397.6214
1916 2400.5372/mixing/ a partial loan and a partial grant and my grandmother2403.7256 
1917PRV_int_012403.8818Mm-hm.2404.3186
1918PRV_se0_ag1_m_012404.9042had a loan.2405.5820
1919PRV_int_012405.7184Mm-hm.2406.1065
1920PRV_se0_ag1_m_012406.3006And I didn't think that was fair2407.8200
1921PRV_int_012407.8295Mm-hm.2408.2744
1922PRV_se0_ag1_m_012408.2223to her.2408.6152
1923PRV_int_012409.4321Now what street was- um- were these two houses on?2412.0781
1924PRV_se0_ag1_m_012412.0876Um, Church Street and Walston Street. [They're]2414.3359
1925PRV_int_012414.0614[Okay.]2414.5064
1926PRV_se0_ag1_m_012414.6673adjoining streets.2415.7500
1927PRV_int_012415.6593Okay.2415.9859
1928 2416.2936Yeah I think I know where Church Street is.2418.0970
1930 2418.4946Mkay.2418.9538 
1932 2419.8768And so that whole thing would have /??/ allowed the people of that neighborhood to move back in or?2424.2911 
1933PRV_se0_ag1_m_012424.4284I can name2425.4603
1935 2425.7442one, two, three,2427.3706 
1937 2428.1137four2428.5019 
1939 2428.8143on that street2429.4675 
1941 2429.6474[that did]2430.1491 
1942PRV_int_012429.6568[Mm.]2429.8840
1943PRV_se0_ag1_m_012430.3668out of about thirty houses.2431.9289
1944PRV_int_012432.0519Yeah.2432.3928
1946 2433.3753Okay.2433.8345 
1948 2434.4167So wow. So not a lot [at all.]2436.3976 
1949PRV_se0_ag1_m_012435.9371[Hm.]2436.2059
1950 2436.4000Mm-mm.2436.9680
1951PRV_int_012437.4792And- and what did-2438.2839
1953 2438.6342were you2439.0176 
1955 2439.4605trying to encourage people to move back in? Or what did you think about-2442.2106 
1957 2443.1289No?2443.5786 
1958PRV_se0_ag1_m_012444.6815I mean cause m- people really had their minds pretty much made up.2447.6284
1959PRV_int_012448.1822That they weren't gonna move [back?]2449.2946
1960PRV_se0_ag1_m_012449.0248[That they] weren't gonna move back. And my grandmother was one of 'em. She was dead set2452.8048
1961PRV_int_012452.7906Mm-hm.2453.1361
1962PRV_se0_ag1_m_012453.5480on-2453.8320
1964 2453.9976on not going back.2455.0437 
1965PRV_int_012455.1810Yeah.2455.4697
1966PRV_se0_ag1_m_012455.8153[Cause-]2456.1229
1967PRV_int_012455.8295[What about] the mother? Was she tryna encourage people to move back in or?2459.0036
1968PRV_se0_ag1_m_012458.8805She was more concerned about getting herself back. [She didn't] care less whether anybody else came or not.2463.7500
1969PRV_int_012461.0485[Yeah.]2461.4224
1970 2464.0238[Yeah.]2464.2794
1971PRV_se0_ag1_m_012464.1895[She] was like I'm moving back to Princeville if you all don't wanna go, that's fine with me. I'll move by myself.2468.0993
1972PRV_int_012468.0993Mm.2468.4070
1974 2468.6010Mkay.2468.9939 
1976 2469.2712Mkay.2469.7682 
1978 2471.1409So yeah.2472.0166 
1980 2472.3668What- did she say anything about- yeah, I guess she was concerned about her2476.0901 
1982 2476.3031house /?/.2477.0699 
1984 2477.3776Moving back in cause her grandfather2478.9775 
1986 2479.5455you said, left that land [for her?]2481.1102 
1987PRV_se0_ag1_m_012480.7525[Mm-hm.]2481.1738
1988PRV_int_012481.7919Mkay.2482.1563
1990 2483.3066So eventually-2484.4426 
1992 2485.1337so eventually th- that- she did get2487.4341 
1994 2488.0664kind of rebuilt right?2489.2403 
1995PRV_se0_ag1_m_012489.2356It did, but it's a whole bunch of new people.2491.4082
1996PRV_int_012491.4271A lot of new [people.]2492.2776
1997PRV_se0_ag1_m_012491.9951[A lot] of new [people.]2493.2495
1998PRV_int_012492.8990[/?/]2493.3141
1999PRV_se0_ag1_m_012493.5220People from2494.4214
2001 2495.5338Tarboro2496.1917 
2003 2497.8626taking up the opportunities that the Princeville people had.2501.0935 
2004PRV_int_012501.1456Mm-hm.2501.4296
2005PRV_se0_ag1_m_012501.3870But it was a lot of people in East Tarboro that flooded too, so a lot of them2504.6010
2006 2505.2806saw2505.6972
2008 2505.8676all the new houses [and things] that were coming up in Princeville and they just moved over here. It's like forget the East Tarboro and Princeville stuff, this is where2512.5918 
2009PRV_int_012506.9752[Yeah.]2507.3350
2010 2512.9326Yeah.2513.2119
2011PRV_se0_ag1_m_012513.1598we're moving to.2513.9598
2012 2514.6461Cause I can say that the houses that they build in Princeville are a lot nicer than the ones that they threw together2519.6048
2013PRV_int_012519.7894Mm-hm.2520.2485
2014PRV_se0_ag1_m_012520.2816in East Tarboro. It's like,2521.2567
2016 2522.4590like they put up four walls and a roof in two days.2525.1598 
2017PRV_int_012525.1645Mm-hm.2525.5432
2019 2527.2331What is there to do around here?2528.5206 
2021 2528.9446Like for2529.5410 
2023 2530.4309people your age?2531.3945 
2025 2532.7360I don't know, /inaudible/ kind of thing that- things people do around here?2535.9528 
2026PRV_se0_ag1_m_012535.9954A lot of people really look forward to Fridays because that's when the football or basketball games, but it's basically,2543.0557
2027PRV_int_012543.1882Mm.2543.4486
2028PRV_se0_ag1_m_012543.5811that's it. And you would really be shocked that people hang out at Walmart.2547.0270
2029PRV_int_012547.0696Really?2547.4246
2030PRV_se0_ag1_m_012547.4321You go to Walmart right now, you see so many people and they're not buying anything.2550.8733
2031PRV_int_012550.9680They're just kind of hanging out.2552.0519
2032PRV_se0_ag1_m_012551.9431But people that have licenses2553.6214
2033 2553.9812to Rocky Mount. It's just2555.3492
2035 2555.6947twenty minutes. /It's-/2556.7786 
2037 2557.0153go to the mall or the- or the movies there.2559.0866 
2038PRV_int_012559.1434[Okay.]2559.6451
2039PRV_se0_ag1_m_012559.2759[But for the] people that is just basically stuck here,2561.5148
2040 2562.5183Friday is their only outlet.2564.1419
2041PRV_int_012564.3028The football game and stuff. Okay.2566.5113
2043 2566.9279What kind of stuff do you2568.0592 
2045 2568.5798do socially?2569.5975 
2046PRV_se0_ag1_m_012570.8945I would2571.3110
2048 2572.3457go the games or2573.8935 
2050 2574.9112to the movies2576.0851 
2052 2576.8661or the mall.2577.4625 
2054 2577.6546This is all in2578.3457 
2055PRV_int_012578.5634In Rocky [Mount.]2579.1882
2056PRV_se0_ag1_m_012579.0415Rocky Mount or I would go to Raleigh2581.1147
2057 2581.9809to see my sister or either to Greensboro to see her daughter.2585.0225
2058PRV_int_012585.1598Okay.2585.5906
2059PRV_se0_ag1_m_012587.3609And I have-2587.7490
2061 2587.9857I have a cousin at UNC Chapel Hill so it's basically visiting them because there's really nothing to do here.2593.4035 
2062PRV_int_012593.4319Okay.2593.9099
2064 2594.8093There's a lot of people- young people- just kind of say that2597.1077 
2065PRV_se0_ag1_m_012597.2024Mm-hm.2597.5196
2066PRV_int_012597.6284/inaudible/.2598.4237
2067PRV_se0_ag1_m_012599.5218But they're not doing anything or trying to get out of here. They would rather stay here, not have anything to do than go somewhere and find something to do.2605.4177
2068PRV_int_012605.4082Okay.2605.7727
2069 2606.8377Okay.2607.4327
2071 2607.5788/??/2608.1989 
2073 2608.7859What do you think-2609.6805 
2075 2610.1728I know this is probably /inaudible/2613.0554 
2077 2613.6404/inaudible/ fair question but2615.9929 
2079 2616.6082if you-2617.1100 
2081 2617.2757can you2617.9005 
2083 2618.2933present the future to me? What do you think the future of Princeville is like? I mean where do you think-2622.4710 
2085 2623.3561five, ten years down the road, what- what's it gonna be like in Princeville?2627.0462 
2087 2627.3681Or just this-2628.1633 
2089 2628.3100this area, do you- do you have any-2629.8247 
2090PRV_se0_ag1_m_012630.0993If they don't get the right people2632.0191
2092 2632.4640in there to try to run it,2633.6426 
2094 2634.5088I honestly see Tarboro taking it over.2636.8472 
2095PRV_int_012637.0771Really?2637.5741
2097 2637.9765Yeah.2638.2841 
2098PRV_se0_ag1_m_012638.1942That's where they're headed.2639.2308
2099misc2640.1917Mm-hm.2640.7266
2100PRV_int_012641.1337<clears throat>2641.6496
2101PRV_se0_ag1_m_012641.6070That's exactly where they're headed.2642.9418
2102 2643.1670Because they can't-2644.3930
2104 2644.9989it's like we have to- well, Princeville has to pay2647.4603 
2106 2647.6307Tarboro for their water and when it's time to pay them they don't have all the money. With as much as they charge2653.2804 
2108 2653.5928for the water bill over there2654.7478 
2109PRV_int_012654.9730[Mm.]2655.2286
2110PRV_se0_ag1_m_012655.0534[they should] have the money.2656.1137
2111PRV_int_012656.2889[Mm-hm.]2656.6817
2112PRV_se0_ag1_m_012656.5019[And]2656.7575
2113 2656.9231they're always thousands and thousands of dollars short.2659.5313
2114PRV_int_012659.6969[Mm.]2660.0425
2115PRV_se0_ag1_m_012659.9383[With] anything they have to pay Tarboro for,2661.8629
2116 2662.1421they're always short.2663.0935
2117PRV_int_012663.1977Mm.2663.4580
2118PRV_se0_ag1_m_012663.4107And want-2663.8320
2119 2664.2485want an extension2665.3088
2121 2665.9809on paying them, but I honestly2667.7500 
2122PRV_int_012668.4261Yeah.2668.7669
2123PRV_se0_ag1_m_012668.6770see Tarboro taking Princeville over.2670.7436
2124PRV_int_012670.8639Hm.2671.2141
2126 2671.6543Wow.2671.9857 
2128 2672.7998What do you think about that in terms of2674.8095 
2130 2675.0225you know, /inaudible/?2677.2899 
2131PRV_se0_ag1_m_012677.5644There's really nothing I can-2678.8898
2133 2679.1812can do about it because I really see it happening.2681.7373 
2134PRV_int_012681.8272[Mm-hm.]2682.2958
2135PRV_se0_ag1_m_012681.9124[I mean if] that's the only way to get them to progress, then I don't see a problem with it because I don't live there [anymore.]2688.2958
2136PRV_int_012688.0166[Mm-hm.]2688.4946
2137PRV_se0_ag1_m_012689.1763But something needs to be done.2690.6302
2138PRV_int_012690.6890Mm-hm.2691.1008
2140 2691.7777What's-2692.2557 
2142 2692.5066the-2692.7764 
2144 2693.0131thinking about like the hist- historical significance of Princeville being the first2697.1075 
2146 2697.6877uh, town settled by African American and everything, what-2700.6603 
2148 2701.6496was that impressed upon you growing up [or?]2704.2179 
2149PRV_se0_ag1_m_012703.8581[Mm-hm.]2704.2605
2150PRV_int_012704.7527Was it im-2705.4770
2152 2705.6994was it /inaudible/ your grandmother, your parents, /inaudible/?2709.7587 
2153PRV_se0_ag1_m_012709.9812Mm-hm.2710.3457
2154PRV_int_012710.4309Do you think that's-2711.1882
2156 2711.6142I mean is that- do you think that's /?/?2713.7348 
2158 2714.2365Something that's important to people that live in the area?2716.6155 
2159PRV_se0_ag1_m_012716.6439I think they don't even think about it. They don't care.2718.6840
2160PRV_int_012718.9396Mm-hm.2719.4413
2161misc2719.9052Very true.2720.6010
2162PRV_int_012720.7998Why do you think that is?2722.0049
2163PRV_se0_ag1_m_012724.7834<sigh>2725.1952
2165 2725.6307Half of the people2726.6152 
2167 2726.9134in Princeville, to me,2728.5729 
2169 2729.1882not to sound uppity or anything,2731.0153 
2171 2731.5691but they're uneducated. They know about this stuff, but it's just like, I don't care. Wh- what is that doing for me? What does that have to do with me?2738.5442 
2172PRV_int_012738.5868Mm.2738.9324
2174 2740.8474So it's just kind of2741.9910 
2176 2742.4710apathy.2743.1429