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1 | PRV_int_01 | 0.5579 | What you have to tell me, you know, about Princeville, | 2.8915 |
3 | | 3.2635 | um, | 3.6705 |
5 | | 4.5415 | but uh, | 5.0906 |
7 | | 5.8290 | I guess | 6.3497 |
9 | | 6.7946 | we can start. W- You said you weren't- | 8.7380 |
11 | | 9.0315 | you uh- | 9.6800 |
13 | | 10.0681 | you weren't born in- in- in Princeville? | 11.5828 |
14 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 11.6065 | No not e- exactly in Princeville. | 13.4573 |
15 | PRV_int_01 | 13.4573 | Okay you were born over [in Tarboro?] | 14.9625 |
16 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 14.3499 | [/Inaudible/] | 15.1877 |
17 | PRV_int_01 | 15.3534 | Okay. | 15.7699 |
19 | | 16.1297 | And when did you move to uh, Princeville? | 18.3355 |
20 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 18.8656 | Um, | 19.5330 |
22 | | 20.1294 | about | 20.7211 |
24 | | 21.1404 | twenty five to thirty years ago. | 22.7214 |
25 | PRV_int_01 | 23.0054 | Okay. | 23.4503 |
27 | | 24.3213 | And how old were you then? | 25.4147 |
28 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 25.4336 | Forty two. | 26.0868 |
29 | PRV_int_01 | 26.2620 | What? | 26.5318 |
30 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 26.7238 | So I was | 27.2398 |
32 | | 27.5049 | born here out- | 28.2953 |
34 | | 28.6352 | moved here at a young age | 29.9331 |
35 | PRV_int_01 | 30.1319 | [Okay.] | 30.6005 |
36 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 30.3565 | [Yeah] but I was you know, raised in Edgecombe County, [went to] all the city schools. | 34.5957 |
37 | PRV_int_01 | 32.9390 | [Okay.] | 33.4928 |
38 | | 35.0595 | So, I'm sorry. You- you- you moved here when you were how [old?] | 37.5399 |
39 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 37.3363 | [Uh-huh], probably about | 38.3972 |
40 | | 38.6144 | ten or twelve, was that old. | 39.7484 |
41 | PRV_int_01 | 39.8336 | Okay. | 40.2738 |
42 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 40.2785 | Yeah. <laugh> | 41.0217 |
43 | PRV_int_01 | 40.9033 | Alright. | 41.2015 |
44 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 41.1826 | So I grew up around here in this area | 42.6973 |
45 | PRV_int_01 | 42.7068 | Oh okay. | 43.5267 |
46 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 43.9043 | all my life. | 44.5954 |
47 | PRV_int_01 | 44.8510 | What- what part of uh, Princeville? | 46.9175 |
48 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 47.1021 | Uh, right outside of Princeville. About a mile outside of Princeville, /unintelligible/ highway. | 51.0025 |
49 | PRV_int_01 | 51.2088 | Okay. | 51.6300 |
51 | | 52.0324 | Alright. | 52.4915 |
53 | | 52.8087 | Did you go to school [around-] | 53.9636 |
54 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 53.6749 | [I went] to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 54.8346 |
55 | PRV_int_01 | 54.8156 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 55.6675 |
56 | | 55.8333 | Okay. | 56.2167 |
57 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 56.0795 | /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 56.8558 |
58 | PRV_int_01 | 57.0972 | And uh, where'd you go to school before that? | 58.8371 |
59 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 59.3151 | Um- | 60.2950 |
61 | | 60.9292 | <laugh> | 61.2748 |
63 | | 62.0227 | <laugh> Never fails, /does it/? | 63.2581 |
65 | | 63.6415 | Um, /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 64.8087 |
66 | PRV_int_01 | 65.0453 | Okay. | 65.4240 |
67 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 65.4998 | Mm. | 65.8264 |
68 | PRV_int_01 | 65.9731 | [Okay.] | 66.3092 |
69 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 66.1198 | [/RD-SCHOOL-5/.] | 66.9671 |
70 | PRV_int_01 | 67.1091 | Alright. | 67.4594 |
72 | | 67.9327 | What was that like? | 68.6286 |
74 | | 68.7990 | Do your remember? Uh, yeah /?/- | 69.8572 |
76 | | 70.5010 | /?/ | 70.8134 |
78 | | 71.0785 | You go way back there? [<laugh>] | 72.6689 |
79 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 72.4038 | [Aw] that was the day where you had to walk to school. [<laugh>] | 75.1540 |
80 | PRV_int_01 | 74.6475 | [Okay.] | 75.1871 |
81 | | 75.3528 | [Uh-] | 75.6652 |
82 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 75.5401 | [Uh], <laugh> we had to walk to school based on the | 77.9873 |
83 | | 78.4464 | distance you stay from the school? | 79.7008 |
84 | PRV_int_01 | 79.6771 | Mm-hm. | 80.0179 |
85 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 80.0132 | So we was in walking distance, so we had to walk to school during that time. But it was | 83.0406 |
86 | | 83.8832 | uh- it was the old high school. | 85.2369 |
87 | PRV_int_01 | 85.4594 | Oh [okay.] | 86.0463 |
88 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 85.8286 | [And then] uh, so it was- it was um, | 87.8714 |
89 | | 88.0466 | so fun. They- I don't remember a whole lot about those days, but um, | 90.8914 |
91 | | 91.4073 | those /couple of/ days. [<laugh>] | 93.2155 |
92 | PRV_int_01 | 92.4534 | [Okay.] | 92.8321 |
93 | | 93.3981 | Alright. | 93.7436 |
95 | | 94.3590 | Do you- do you have a lot of | 95.3909 |
97 | | 95.8737 | friends that | 96.4370 |
99 | | 96.7446 | are from this | 97.4594 |
100 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 97.8002 | [Oh yeah.] | 98.1647 |
101 | PRV_int_01 | 97.8097 | [area] that you went to [school with] at that [time?] | 99.7275 |
102 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 98.6854 | [Yeah.] | 99.0640 |
104 | | 99.4265 | [Yep.] Basically um, | 100.7235 |
105 | | 101.6560 | many of- | 102.1719 |
107 | | 102.5411 | probably ninety eight percent of my friends are from right here in this area. | 105.0451 |
108 | PRV_int_01 | 105.2628 | [Okay.] | 105.6936 |
109 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 105.2731 | [You know, /??/] so close to Tarboro so you all go to the same school. | 108.5254 |
110 | PRV_int_01 | 108.6074 | Right. | 108.8866 |
111 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 109.1849 | So you- you either see 'em in school or see 'em after school. | 112.0000 |
112 | PRV_int_01 | 112.2407 | Yeah. | 112.4584 |
113 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 112.5199 | You know, cause it's not like you're miles away your just feets away. | 115.1091 |
115 | | 115.2653 | [You know? <laugh>] | 117.0593 |
116 | PRV_int_01 | 115.2653 | [Okay. <laugh>] | 116.2877 |
118 | | 116.8510 | [Wow.] | 117.0735 |
119 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 117.5496 | So. | 117.9756 |
121 | | 118.5152 | So we rode the s- rode the same busses and everything. | 120.5744 |
122 | PRV_int_01 | 120.6500 | Okay. | 121.0571 |
123 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 121.2795 | Yeah. | 121.5257 |
124 | PRV_int_01 | 121.4499 | So you said you started walk- you- when you- | 123.2439 |
125 | | 123.5070 | m- | 123.6774 |
127 | | 124.1318 | middle [school you just walked?] | 125.2205 |
128 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 124.4395 | [Yeah, middle school we had] to walk to school, but high school | 126.6424 |
129 | | 126.8014 | cause of the distance we rode the bus. | 128.3303 |
130 | PRV_int_01 | 128.4818 | Okay. | 128.8794 |
131 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 128.7564 | You know, | 129.1303 |
132 | | 129.4123 | cause that was like three miles. | 130.9507 |
133 | PRV_int_01 | 131.2678 | Okay. | 131.6702 |
134 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 131.5471 | You know. | 131.8926 |
135 | PRV_int_01 | 132.5316 | How- | 132.7967 |
137 | | 132.9813 | how long did you have to walk? How far did you have to walk to school? | 135.5272 |
138 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 135.5374 | Um, probably | 137.0690 |
140 | | 137.8500 | almost | 138.3754 |
142 | | 138.6405 | not quite a mile, but | 140.0179 |
144 | | 141.7484 | probably half a mile. | 142.5625 |
145 | PRV_int_01 | 142.7282 | Mkay. | 143.0548 |
146 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 143.1211 | You know. | 143.4335 |
147 | PRV_int_01 | 144.3518 | Do- Is there anything that you remember the most about | 146.6901 |
149 | | 147.2628 | Princeville? How it used to be back then or? | 149.3909 |
150 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 150.2287 | Um, | 150.7352 |
152 | | 151.1423 | mem- remember the- | 152.1505 |
154 | | 152.5339 | this- the- the tales | 153.8450 |
155 | PRV_int_01 | 154.0419 | Okay. | 154.4726 |
156 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 154.5436 | uh, when | 155.6844 |
158 | | 155.7838 | before they built the dyke | 156.8393 |
159 | PRV_int_01 | 156.9292 | [Mm-hm.] | 157.2606 |
160 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 157.1801 | [um] | 157.5919 |
161 | | 157.7434 | back when they released it to um, | 159.9614 |
163 | | 160.1413 | slaves, | 160.7471 |
164 | PRV_int_01 | 160.8465 | Mm-hm. | 161.2110 |
165 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 161.2962 | um, where they got the name Freedom Hill. | 163.2511 |
166 | PRV_int_01 | 163.3174 | Mkay. | 163.7292 |
167 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 163.8523 | And uh, they used to talk /over here/ | 165.6794 |
169 | | 165.8856 | many stories about how the town used to have like a hard rain, it used to flood | 169.5162 |
170 | PRV_int_01 | 169.6393 | [Mkay.] | 169.9963 |
171 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 169.8428 | [all] the time, [so] it's been flooded, it's nothing new | 172.4111 |
172 | PRV_int_01 | 170.4913 | [Mm-hm.] | 170.7496 |
173 | | 172.5341 | Right. | 172.8229 |
174 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 172.8702 | except for I think there was- there was never | 175.0334 |
176 | | 175.4026 | to this /mass/. | 176.4518 |
178 | | 176.6333 | [You know?] But um, | 177.4190 |
179 | PRV_int_01 | 176.6428 | [Yeah.] | 176.9315 |
180 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 177.7957 | they- it's nothing new to see them with water up this way | 180.7683 |
181 | PRV_int_01 | 180.9056 | Yeah. | 181.1659 |
182 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 181.1517 | back in those days. I've heard many many tales about that. That's why you don't see a lot of houses back towards the river anymore [now because] of that. | 187.1423 |
183 | PRV_int_01 | 186.3707 | [Okay.] | 186.7210 |
184 | | 187.4215 | [Okay.] | 187.8049 |
185 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 187.6440 | [You know.] | 187.9938 |
186 | | 188.6191 | So those- some of those tales that they used to hear- they used to tell us about [/inaudible/.] | 192.1950 |
187 | PRV_int_01 | 191.5944 | [Yeah.] | 191.9920 |
188 | | 192.6642 | You- you remember specific stories that your parents told you or? | 196.1981 |
189 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 197.5329 | Uh, | 198.2192 |
191 | | 200.1741 | that- other than that used to be | 201.8119 |
193 | | 202.3022 | the grocery store here at- | 203.4382 |
195 | | 203.6891 | right here at- right beside the fire station [sort of?] | 205.8949 |
196 | PRV_int_01 | 205.4689 | [Okay.] | 205.8854 |
197 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 206.4203 | And it used to be a dance club <laugh> on what- on two fifty eight. | 209.6560 |
198 | PRV_int_01 | 209.7824 | /?/. | 209.9800 |
199 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 209.9826 | So it wasn't | 210.4606 |
201 | | 210.7683 | that many people probably in town. [At that] time, you probably were talking about | 214.2454 |
202 | PRV_int_01 | 212.5386 | [Yeah.] | 212.8226 |
203 | | 214.2596 | Okay. | 214.5152 |
204 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 214.5247 | five hundred people. | 215.4240 |
206 | | 215.9873 | Uh, | 216.4938 |
208 | | 216.8251 | little- little more than that? | 217.9138 |
210 | | 218.0937 | About a thousand or so. | 219.0688 |
212 | | 219.7389 | There was really nothing over here. | 221.3672 |
213 | PRV_int_01 | 221.5944 | [Right.] | 221.9400 |
214 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 221.6181 | [Everything] was | 222.2524 |
215 | | 222.4512 | across town. | 223.1470 |
216 | PRV_int_01 | 223.2985 | [Oh okay.] | 223.8665 |
217 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 223.4121 | [So] uh, anything you really wanted to do you had to go across to town of Tarboro cause it was a small- small- just a small community | 228.7872 |
218 | PRV_int_01 | 228.9482 | Yeah. | 229.2322 |
219 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 229.2322 | at that time, | 229.9469 |
220 | PRV_int_01 | 229.9801 | [Oh okay.] | 230.3919 |
221 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 230.1741 | [you know.] | 230.5291 |
222 | | 230.6096 | So that- that's all we had. | 231.7456 |
224 | | 232.1602 | It's just now is starting to expand. | 233.8500 |
225 | PRV_int_01 | 233.9684 | Mm-hm. | 234.4038 |
226 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 234.5364 | You know, | 234.9624 |
228 | | 235.1659 | so it's on the rise now, but back in those days it was /different/. | 238.2549 |
230 | | 239.0311 | Probably just | 240.4748 |
232 | | 240.9198 | like I say, a thousand people in the cemetery, | 242.5954 |
233 | PRV_int_01 | 242.8179 | [Okay.] | 243.3102 |
234 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 242.8558 | [you know], which is uh, | 243.9539 |
235 | | 244.1555 | old- old cemetery [down the] street. And then so, that all was here. | 247.2653 |
236 | PRV_int_01 | 245.1116 | [Mm-hm.] | 245.4802 |
237 | | 247.5493 | There wasn't even the uh- the stores that we [see now?] | 250.2123 |
238 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 249.6821 | [No.] | 249.9377 |
240 | | 250.1886 | There were no stores on that street during- during that [time.] | 253.2322 |
241 | PRV_int_01 | 253.0760 | [Oh okay.] | 253.6014 |
242 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 253.6582 | Th- the only store I remember was | 255.2676 |
244 | | 255.4312 | this one right here called | 256.5673 |
246 | | 257.1400 | /unintelligible/. | 257.8027 |
248 | | 258.3660 | Y- yeah, people called it /Benny's Store/. | 260.0227 |
249 | PRV_int_01 | 260.2404 | [Okay.] | 260.5859 |
250 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 260.4439 | [/It was a/] real real old store. [After] the flood, he didn't- he didn't reopen after the flood. | 264.4086 |
251 | PRV_int_01 | 261.9851 | [Oh.] | 262.2407 |
252 | | 264.4985 | After the ninety nine? | 265.7150 |
253 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 265.6819 | Yeah, he didn't reopen, but it's the building right here beside. | 268.1413 |
254 | | 269.0453 | That was the only store you had to go to. | 270.6831 |
255 | PRV_int_01 | 270.7588 | Yeah. | 271.0239 |
256 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 271.0760 | <laugh> | 271.8475 |
258 | | 272.3777 | You know? | 272.8037 |
259 | PRV_int_01 | 272.6522 | Uh, even for- so how'd you get around? Basically you had to go to Tarboro or? | 276.4938 |
260 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 276.5032 | Oh yeah, you uh, | 277.7671 |
262 | | 278.2120 | walked. | 278.6712 |
263 | PRV_int_01 | 279.2182 | Yeah. | 279.4454 |
264 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 279.9188 | Many- /tenant/ people call it walked for a time. <laugh> | 282.5695 |
265 | PRV_int_01 | 281.7554 | [/Hella chill/.] | 282.4180 |
266 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 282.8393 | Rode bikes, | 283.5446 |
268 | | 283.8144 | um, | 284.3824 |
270 | | 284.9694 | very few people had a lot of car- [you] know, had car, you know, so you basically walked | 288.8251 |
271 | PRV_int_01 | 287.2583 | [Yeah.] | 287.5471 |
272 | | 288.9624 | Okay. | 289.2985 |
273 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 289.5635 | Yeah. | 289.9375 |
274 | PRV_int_01 | 290.0416 | I remember at the town hall meeting someone mentioned a- | 292.4016 |
276 | | 293.1542 | Let me make sure my levels are here. | 294.6689 |
278 | | 295.2511 | Um, | 295.7434 |
280 | | 297.6726 | so uh- | 297.9993 |
282 | | 298.2170 | uh- | 298.6051 |
284 | | 298.8844 | somebody was saying there isn't a whole lot to do for- for young people. | 302.2830 |
286 | | 302.6806 | Uh, like on playgrounds and stuff like that. | 305.0643 |
287 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 305.1021 | No, there's uh- | 306.5080 |
288 | PRV_int_01 | 306.8251 | [Was there-] | 307.4073 |
289 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 306.8772 | [there's not a-] | 307.4121 |
290 | PRV_int_01 | 308.1457 | Was there a lot to do back- | 309.1445 |
292 | | 309.3460 | back | 309.5705 |
294 | | 309.9141 | [when you were growing] [up?] | 310.7755 |
295 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 309.9614 | [Nothing.] | 310.4679 |
297 | | 310.5767 | [Well] you know, /that's then/. [You know.] <laugh> | 312.6405 |
298 | PRV_int_01 | 311.5944 | [Okay.] | 312.0914 |
299 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 312.7872 | So we do have a tennis court | 314.1363 |
300 | PRV_int_01 | 314.3635 | Right. | 314.6333 |
301 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 314.6617 | uh, and basketball court now that we didn't have then. | 317.2583 |
302 | PRV_int_01 | 317.3246 | Uh-huh. | 317.6938 |
303 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 317.9163 | So there's a little bit more to do but um, | 320.0889 |
305 | | 320.7280 | yeah, it was- there was nothing to do. | 322.0987 |
306 | PRV_int_01 | 322.1791 | Oh. | 322.3921 |
307 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 322.4537 | You know, there was absolutely nothing to do. You either had to go to the town of Tarboro | 325.5257 |
308 | PRV_int_01 | 325.6535 | Mm-hm. | 325.9943 |
309 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 325.9564 | or pretty much stayed at home | 327.3717 |
310 | PRV_int_01 | 327.5705 | [Mkay.] | 327.9304 |
311 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 327.7720 | [and] mind your own business. | 328.6051 |
312 | PRV_int_01 | 328.7187 | [Okay (laughing).] | 329.4003 |
313 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 329.1116 | [And uh-] <laugh> um- | 330.5364 |
314 | | 330.6452 | but | 330.8914 |
316 | | 331.3221 | sad to say, but back in those days, you could | 333.1046 |
318 | | 334.0513 | leave your door open. | 334.7945 |
319 | PRV_int_01 | 334.9507 | Okay. | 335.3199 |
320 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 335.7696 | And trust your neighbors [and-] and you sleep with your door open. We actually done that. | 339.4596 |
321 | PRV_int_01 | 336.7683 | [Yeah.] | 336.9908 |
322 | | 339.5232 | Oh okay. | 340.0000 |
323 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 340.0087 | But you can't do that now. | 341.4429 |
324 | PRV_int_01 | 341.6228 | You- oh okay. | 342.0157 |
325 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 341.9873 | But [<laugh>] | 343.0381 |
326 | PRV_int_01 | 342.4796 | [<laugh>] | 343.9611 |
327 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 343.3695 | [<laugh> you could] do- actually could- you know, could do that. | 346.0000 |
328 | PRV_int_01 | 346.0040 | Yeah. | 346.2454 |
329 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 346.6477 | So uh, | 347.2205 |
331 | | 347.4382 | we do have a few little more hang out spots now. You got the grocery store on Main Street for a little bit more activity wise [than] we do in- | 353.6181 |
332 | PRV_int_01 | 352.9554 | [Mm.] | 353.2489 |
333 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 353.9968 | heck, now you got a carwash you didn't have before. | 355.9414 |
334 | PRV_int_01 | 356.0085 | Mkay. | 356.3871 |
335 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 356.4581 | You know, so we do have that. And we're gonna get a park | 358.9412 |
336 | PRV_int_01 | 359.0737 | Oh okay. | 359.7459 |
337 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 359.6938 | you know, down here on um, | 361.2322 |
338 | | 361.6866 | /??/ riverside, the old trailer park back there, that's where the dyke first burst? | 365.0027 |
339 | PRV_int_01 | 365.0359 | Uh-huh. | 365.3909 |
340 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 365.4145 | They- | 365.7175 |
342 | | 365.8500 | They didn't bring that back but we're gonna get a park out there [sponsored] by Lowe's. | 369.2297 |
343 | PRV_int_01 | 368.2309 | [Oh.] | 368.4865 |
344 | | 369.3650 | Oh wow, [okay.] | 370.3543 |
345 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 370.0182 | [Yep.] | 370.3637 |
346 | PRV_int_01 | 370.8797 | So [that's-] | 371.3483 |
347 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 370.9849 | [From the old] A and T University. | 372.7283 |
348 | PRV_int_01 | 373.0286 | Oh wow. | 373.4973 |
350 | | 374.4061 | Well it sh- should be uh- | 375.8498 |
352 | | 376.1413 | should be a lot to do. | 377.0690 |
354 | | 380.0700 | Do you- so wait, | 381.0735 |
356 | | 381.4360 | so uh, | 382.0087 |
358 | | 382.4631 | when you were growing up, | 383.3104 |
360 | | 383.7128 | it- | 384.2003 |
362 | | 384.4038 | they uh- | 385.0429 |
364 | | 385.8239 | there wasn't a whole | 386.6664 |
366 | | 386.8747 | lot to do so what did- did- do you remember anything you guys used to do, get creative and to have fun around here? | 392.5244 |
367 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 392.6712 | Um, | 393.3717 |
369 | | 394.5247 | we just played with- well, | 395.8690 |
371 | | 396.3092 | Tarboro had its own park. We would go over there to uh, | 398.7564 |
373 | | 398.9788 | place called East Side Home. | 400.1223 |
374 | PRV_int_01 | 400.2407 | Mkay. | 400.6193 |
375 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 400.6525 | And cause that was the closest p- place you could go to in walking distance. [And uh], we used to go there. | 404.7090 |
376 | PRV_int_01 | 403.5162 | [Mm-hm.] | 403.9138 |
377 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 405.0289 | Most of us | 405.6774 |
379 | | 406.0655 | been ove- uh, | 406.9915 |
381 | | 407.2394 | used to go to the | 407.9163 |
383 | | 408.6452 | black clinic cause it's right across the bridge [cause it's] closest, | 411.1776 |
384 | PRV_int_01 | 410.4392 | [Mm.] | 410.6475 |
385 | | 411.4190 | [Okay.] | 411.6490 |
386 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 411.4218 | [and there was a] | 411.8856 |
387 | | 412.1744 | uh, black doctor at the time and he | 413.8074 |
389 | | 414.3328 | was very very cheap | 415.1659 |
390 | PRV_int_01 | 415.5115 | Okay. | 415.8286 |
391 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 415.8097 | you know, so he- | 416.7185 |
392 | | 416.9836 | he looked out for us. | 417.7673 |
393 | PRV_int_01 | 417.8478 | Oh right. | 418.1933 |
394 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 418.2028 | You know, so we- we just go to the park, uh, play on the monkey bars and | 421.9801 |
396 | | 422.5102 | um, | 423.0735 |
398 | | 423.2818 | just meet new friends. That's- play in the sand, in the dirt. Go to the pool, did a lot of swimming then. [/inaudible/] we did a lot of swimming. That's probably why we | 429.5374 |
399 | PRV_int_01 | 427.2559 | [Okay.] | 427.8097 |
400 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 429.9735 | some good [swimmers] now. [/inaudible/ used to] do a lot of swimming. | 432.5532 |
401 | PRV_int_01 | 430.3427 | [Yeah.] | 430.5462 |
403 | | 431.0290 | [Mkay (laughing).] | 431.7438 |
404 | | 432.6289 | Ah. | 432.9745 |
405 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 433.1780 | Uh, | 433.6608 |
407 | | 433.9401 | played street basketball, | 434.9814 |
408 | PRV_int_01 | 435.0788 | Oh. | 435.4007 |
409 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 435.4007 | go in people's backyard and just create our own basketball court. [You know], we just played uh, what we called sandlot football at the time, but you just | 442.0161 |
410 | PRV_int_01 | 437.8242 | [Okay.] | 438.1698 |
411 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 442.3285 | get together and just | 443.0101 |
413 | | 443.5450 | throw the football and whoever get it get it. [And] sort of, throw things like that, so we really kind of enjoyed going to school. | 448.7876 |
414 | PRV_int_01 | 445.4289 | [Uh.] | 445.7791 |
415 | | 448.8302 | Yeah. | 449.2326 |
416 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 449.2941 | You know, cause it was | 450.0514 |
418 | | 450.2124 | a time where you got to uh, see new people [and]- and different people you don't see during the day cause it's like, | 455.1111 |
419 | PRV_int_01 | 452.3499 | [Uh.] | 452.6386 |
420 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 455.6633 | you over here and they over there. | 457.0739 |
421 | PRV_int_01 | 457.0833 | Right. | 457.3673 |
422 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 457.4194 | You know, so that's how- that's how it actually was at the time. | 460.0539 |
424 | | 460.4184 | I don't know remember anything about um- | 461.9000 |
426 | | 462.8940 | about the bussing situation, but I heard tales about it. But uh, | 465.4044 |
428 | | 466.1770 | yeah, I wasn't riding the bus at the time so I really wouldn't know anything about that [/?/.] | 469.6703 |
429 | PRV_int_01 | 469.3531 | [Mm.] | 469.6466 |
430 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 469.9638 | [/But you know/] | 470.4844 |
431 | PRV_int_01 | 469.9780 | [But you heard] tales [of-] | 471.2500 |
432 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 470.8942 | [Ooh yeah,] | 471.3960 |
433 | | 471.5522 | uh, how you, | 472.4941 |
435 | | 472.7450 | you know, you couldn't ride the bus, | 473.8770 |
436 | PRV_int_01 | 474.0088 | Mm. | 474.3260 |
437 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 474.3639 | you know, and- and whatnot, so I don't- but I /just/- weren't born at that time. [When I was born] you could ride the bus. | 479.0054 |
438 | PRV_int_01 | 477.8267 | [/So-/] | 478.1723 |
439 | | 479.3840 | [Your just talking about] the public bus- | 480.5911 |
440 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 479.4077 | [/Inaudible/] | 479.8053 |
442 | | 480.4964 | Right, [right, the public busses.] | 481.7507 |
443 | PRV_int_01 | 480.7851 | [Right, not the-] | 481.6040 |
444 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 481.9827 | The s- | 482.2099 |
445 | PRV_int_01 | 482.1626 | school [bus?] | 482.8300 |
446 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 482.5744 | [school] busses | 483.2500 |
447 | PRV_int_01 | 483.4386 | [Oh really?] | 484.0066 |
448 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 483.6374 | [for the integrated] schools. | 484.6645 |
449 | PRV_int_01 | 484.6409 | Oh so you had to [walk-] | 485.7907 |
450 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 485.3793 | [Yeah.] | 485.6349 |
451 | | 485.8668 | [Yeah, mm-hm.] | 486.5106 |
452 | PRV_int_01 | 485.9378 | [You could- Oh okay.] | 486.7425 |
453 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 486.8419 | [Matter] of fact, we had our own schools. | 488.4229 |
454 | PRV_int_01 | 486.9271 | [Wow.] | 487.1638 |
455 | | 488.5744 | Okay. | 488.9246 |
456 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 489.1593 | [You know], we had | 489.7889 |
457 | PRV_int_01 | 489.1877 | [Yeah.] | 489.4433 |
458 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 490.0161 | uh, schools- /or/ /RD-SCHOOL-3/ then was at the all black school. | 493.1827 |
459 | PRV_int_01 | 493.1827 | Okay. | 493.5093 |
461 | | 493.7129 | Now [you went] to a all black school? | 495.0004 |
462 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 493.8312 | [/Yeah./] | 494.0774 |
463 | | 495.0220 | No I didn't. [When I] went it was integrated. | 496.7356 |
464 | PRV_int_01 | 495.6705 | [Oh.] | 495.9403 |
466 | | 496.7214 | Okay. [So by the] time you went to [school-] | 498.3686 |
467 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 497.0148 | [/Back then/.] | 497.5118 |
469 | | 498.2076 | [Mm-hm.] It was [already integrated.] | 499.4620 |
470 | PRV_int_01 | 498.8609 | [uh-] | 499.3200 |
471 | | 499.6561 | Okay. | 500.0016 |
473 | | 500.9984 | Do you remember any um- | 502.2101 |
475 | | 502.5273 | <ts> | 502.6456 |
477 | | 503.0716 | anything about going to school? Uh, the- was there any like tension or any- any s- | 507.9214 |
479 | | 508.2291 | anything- | 508.8965 |
480 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 509.1000 | I couldn't tell. | 510.0467 |
482 | | 510.2455 | Um, | 510.7141 |
484 | | 510.9319 | my first school that I went to was the uh, af- elementary- /was/ /RD-SCHOOL-3/ which I walked to school there which was only probably a hundred yards | 516.8561 |
485 | PRV_int_01 | 516.7993 | Mm-hm. | 517.2443 |
486 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 517.2490 | from my house. | 517.8786 |
488 | | 517.9969 | So, uh, I don't remember- | 519.7699 |
490 | | 520.3285 | I can't remember any- treated any different | 522.3707 |
492 | | 522.8609 | you know, cause we all played | 523.9969 |
494 | | 524.3878 | together, so I [don't remember] anything. And at that age I probably wouldn't have cared. | 527.6870 |
495 | PRV_int_01 | 525.2256 | [Okay.] | 525.5901 |
496 | | 527.8574 | Right? | 528.1934 |
497 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 528.1272 | You know, [<laugh>] I probably wouldn't have noticed it, [so] | 530.2241 |
498 | PRV_int_01 | 528.3544 | [<laugh>] | 528.8088 |
500 | | 530.0064 | [Sure.] | 530.3708 |
501 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 530.6832 | um, | 531.1404 |
503 | | 531.3913 | but as I got older I started to realize that | 533.6586 |
505 | | 534.3639 | you know, we were different. | 535.3815 |
506 | PRV_int_01 | 535.5661 | Yeah. | 535.8738 |
507 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 535.8359 | And, you know, and we were treated different. | 537.8358 |
508 | PRV_int_01 | 537.7936 | Really. | 538.1533 |
509 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 538.2291 | You know? But uh, you know, that's | 539.9142 |
511 | | 540.2597 | how they would deal with it. | 541.2253 |
513 | | 541.4809 | [You know what I] mean, /I mean/ we still treated different though. | 543.5948 |
514 | PRV_int_01 | 541.5661 | [Yeah.] | 541.8833 |
515 | | 543.7179 | Sure. | 544.0871 |
517 | | 545.0480 | Do you have any experiences you remember from- | 547.2537 |
518 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 547.6229 | Um, | 548.1484 |
520 | | 549.0031 | not directly | 550.0539 |
522 | | 550.4137 | but | 550.7640 |
524 | | 551.8621 | I felt- that's my own personal feelings | 553.7933 |
525 | PRV_int_01 | 553.9117 | Mm-hm. | 554.2762 |
526 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 554.2572 | of what I could see what would just be | 555.7699 |
527 | | 556.3758 | here say | 556.9202 |
528 | PRV_int_01 | 557.0811 | [Yeah.] | 557.3982 |
529 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 557.1142 | [because] it could have been my thoughts. | 558.9109 |
530 | PRV_int_01 | 558.9745 | Right. | 559.2679 |
531 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 559.3626 | But I have never been | 560.5629 |
533 | | 560.9984 | I never been | 561.8788 |
535 | | 562.0350 | called a name | 562.6172 |
536 | PRV_int_01 | 562.8302 | Oh really? | 563.3120 |
537 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 563.2420 | that I can remember. Never had a name called. I've heard it, | 565.4620 |
538 | PRV_int_01 | 565.6466 | Yeah. | 565.8880 |
539 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 566.1010 | you know, and- and everything, but I never actually been called a name. I guess cause I was sort of a friendly guy. | 570.3875 |
540 | PRV_int_01 | 570.4633 | Mkay. | 570.8135 |
541 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 570.8183 | You know, so (laughing) | 571.5377 |
543 | | 571.8691 | I sort of stayed- | 572.7542 |
545 | | 573.5995 | treated everybody the same, mind my own business. | 575.2610 |
546 | PRV_int_01 | 575.4077 | Yeah. | 575.6964 |
547 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 575.8242 | You know, so I got along with everybody so I followed by example- /?/ a lot of name calling. | 579.9640 |
548 | PRV_int_01 | 580.2054 | [Sure.] | 580.4941 |
549 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 580.2953 | [But I] do- I did hear of some being called a n- | 582.7141 |
550 | | 583.1780 | whatnot, and I did participate in uh, | 585.2871 |
552 | | 586.0871 | some of the school- We did have one incident when I was in that- at high school where we done felt that black students was being | 591.8315 |
554 | | 592.3332 | treated different because it seemed like there was more blacks being suspended | 595.8549 |
555 | PRV_int_01 | 596.3472 | Mm. | 596.5649 |
556 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 596.6170 | than there were | 597.2777 |
558 | | 597.5143 | whites, | 597.9212 |
560 | | 598.0681 | so um, | 598.6693 |
562 | | 598.8728 | we had a protest about that. | 600.6053 |
563 | PRV_int_01 | 600.6147 | Oh wow. | 601.0455 |
564 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 601.1117 | And got some results | 602.3661 |
566 | | 602.6386 | behind that. | 603.2682 |
568 | | 603.5096 | Uh, so that said, that's- | 604.9296 |
570 | | 605.2562 | that one event I just can't seem to get out of my head. [<laugh>] | 608.1105 |
571 | PRV_int_01 | 607.1259 | [Yeah, okay.] | 608.1436 |
572 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 608.2383 | <laugh> You know, | 608.6312 |
574 | | 608.8611 | [So,] | 609.3013 |
575 | PRV_int_01 | 608.8753 | [Totally.] | 609.3865 |
576 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 609.5759 | I didn't really know what I was participating in but I knew when I [got there what] the rally was all [about. You know], so I didn't- I weren't | 615.2635 |
577 | PRV_int_01 | 612.1414 | [<laugh>] | 612.6337 |
579 | | 613.5283 | [Mkay.] | 614.0632 |
580 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 615.4717 | the ring leader or [anything, but uh], the ring leader is- is- has passed on now, but | 619.2490 |
581 | PRV_int_01 | 616.4089 | [Y- yeah.] | 617.0338 |
582 | | 619.3153 | Yeah. | 619.5567 |
583 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 619.6845 | uh, things changed after that [though.] | 621.3155 |
584 | PRV_int_01 | 621.1025 | [Okay.] | 621.5617 |
585 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 622.1486 | Yeah, things changes after that. | 623.5118 |
587 | | 624.0514 | Uh, | 624.6479 |
589 | | 625.0691 | I don't re- I do remember | 626.7948 |
591 | | 627.5333 | that main street store, so I can't remember that a little bit [there-] | 630.4112 |
592 | PRV_int_01 | 630.1698 | [Mm.] | 630.4349 |
593 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 630.8230 | there was | 631.3863 |
595 | | 632.0300 | stores that was black only, a store that was white only. | 634.5131 |
596 | PRV_int_01 | 634.4989 | Mkay. | 635.0148 |
597 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 635.0669 | And I do remember that. | 636.1272 |
599 | | 636.6999 | Just enough to know that I can remember you know, what corner it was on but I don't remember going in | 640.5036 |
601 | | 641.0764 | uh, | 641.6728 |
603 | | 642.1130 | certain kind of doors because of that. [/I don't/] remember [seeing any] signs that said Blacks and White. They were there, I don't remember seeing 'em. | 647.7769 |
604 | PRV_int_01 | 643.6939 | [Mm-hm.] | 644.1453 |
606 | | 644.4304 | [Right.] | 644.6623 |
608 | | 647.7248 | Sure. | 648.1508 |
609 | | 648.2739 | [Sure.] | 648.7331 |
610 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 648.3023 | [You know.] | 648.7236 |
611 | PRV_int_01 | 649.0265 | Okay. | 649.4387 |
613 | | 650.3708 | Now uh, so do you- now did you- have you- once- you moved- /said/ you moved here when you were about ten or twelve? [You been here] ever since? [And lived in Princeville?] | 656.9294 |
614 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 654.9035 | [Mm-hm.] | 655.3437 |
616 | | 656.0111 | [Yes sir.] | 656.6122 |
617 | | 657.2966 | I've been here ever since then and um, | 658.9154 |
619 | | 660.0041 | first joined | 660.6100 |
621 | | 661.1449 | the fire department, got entered in them in like, around nineteen eighty one. | 664.0918 |
622 | PRV_int_01 | 664.4042 | Okay. | 664.7545 |
623 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 664.8444 | So I've been here since eighty one. | 666.2550 |
624 | PRV_int_01 | 666.3781 | Oh [okay.] | 667.0029 |
625 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 666.8372 | [You know] so but my /entry/ was in the town long before that. [Uh], because like I said, we played sports together. | 672.1177 |
626 | PRV_int_01 | 669.7037 | [Yeah.] | 670.0539 |
627 | | 672.2313 | Oh okay. | 672.7804 |
628 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 672.6999 | Because when the school was integrated, we came | 674.5554 |
629 | | 674.9152 | to the same school. [Whether you] stayed in Tarboro or Princeville, you [all] connected | 678.1650 |
630 | PRV_int_01 | 675.6279 | [Mm-hm.] | 675.9214 |
632 | | 677.2704 | [Yeah.] | 677.4929 |
633 | | 678.2502 | [Sure.] | 678.6100 |
634 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 678.4065 | [be at] the same school. | 679.2679 |
635 | PRV_int_01 | 679.3531 | Yeah. | 679.6703 |
636 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 679.7413 | So um, | 680.4939 |
638 | | 681.1877 | I used to walk from | 682.2575 |
640 | | 682.6267 | my house to Princeville | 684.1840 |
641 | PRV_int_01 | 684.3497 | Oh [okay.] | 684.7804 |
642 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 684.6526 | [to] play sports with some of the guys I knew | 686.5771 |
643 | PRV_int_01 | 686.6623 | Yeah. | 686.9747 |
644 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 687.0315 | that went to school- went in- here in Princeville and played uh, sandlot football at the [school and everything], so. | 691.8644 |
645 | PRV_int_01 | 690.6810 | [Sure.] | 691.3200 |
646 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 692.3424 | I do remember those things. Just- | 693.6895 |
648 | | 694.0066 | Only thing I can positively remember | 695.6302 |
650 | | 695.8100 | uh, is that we- I played. | 697.8170 |
651 | PRV_int_01 | 698.2052 | Yeah. | 698.4418 |
652 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 698.4777 | You know? <laugh> I mean, I was a playing type guy so it- it- it didn't really- it didn't really matter to me. | 702.6621 |
653 | PRV_int_01 | 702.8277 | Yeah. | 703.0975 |
654 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 703.1780 | You know. | 703.5093 |
655 | PRV_int_01 | 703.9685 | And when did you uh, | 704.8773 |
657 | | 705.5049 | you start- you- | 706.1675 |
659 | | 706.3711 | you graduated from high school and then | 708.1130 |
661 | | 708.5674 | when did you decide to uh, | 710.0300 |
663 | | 710.2667 | become a firefighter? | 711.1316 |
664 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 711.5711 | Um, | 712.1723 |
666 | | 712.5888 | I actually became a firefighter | 713.9615 |
668 | | 714.6289 | uh, | 715.2490 |
670 | | 716.2146 | in nineteen eighty one | 717.4197 |
672 | | 717.8835 | uh, | 718.5083 |
674 | | 718.9438 | actually the- | 719.6964 |
676 | | 719.8668 | June of nineteen eighty one | 721.0502 |
677 | PRV_int_01 | 721.1259 | Mkay. | 721.4431 |
678 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 721.6371 | and been here ever since. | 722.7779 |
680 | | 723.4907 | So uh, always had a interest in | 725.4692 |
682 | | 726.0088 | helping people. | 726.6289 |
683 | PRV_int_01 | 726.7757 | Yeah. | 727.0313 |
684 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 727.1117 | You know, I said one day I either wanna be a fireman or a police officer. | 729.9261 |
685 | PRV_int_01 | 730.1723 | [Oh yeah.] | 730.5424 |
686 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 730.3143 | [So] uh, | 730.8539 |
687 | | 731.2894 | uh, | 731.6254 |
689 | | 731.8053 | became a volunteer fireman | 733.0691 |
691 | | 733.2916 | um, | 733.8028 |
693 | | 734.6481 | and I know uh- I do remember that night I became that | 737.6964 |
695 | | 737.8479 | and it was a | 738.2834 |
697 | | 738.6005 | enjoyable night and I just | 740.3519 |
699 | | 740.5345 | seeing if I could come by and saw what they did | 742.9012 |
700 | PRV_int_01 | 743.0480 | [Okay.] | 743.3414 |
701 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 743.2089 | [and] said, well I would like to do that cause /I'm/ out there tryna help people. | 746.0882 |
702 | PRV_int_01 | 746.2099 | Yeah. | 746.4418 |
703 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 746.3546 | So I said that's- that sort of caught my interest. | 748.4705 |
704 | PRV_int_01 | 748.4752 | Oh. | 748.7024 |
705 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 748.8255 | And then, see and hear tales about how this | 751.1827 |
707 | | 751.3721 | fire department was struggling | 752.5119 |
708 | PRV_int_01 | 752.6434 | Mm-hm. | 752.9889 |
709 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 753.1262 | uh, | 753.5759 |
711 | | 754.1344 | but at the mean time, you had to put | 755.6065 |
713 | | 756.1887 | money | 756.6857 |
715 | | 757.2963 | out of our pocket into the truck just to put fuel into the truck. | 760.0665 |
716 | PRV_int_01 | 760.1723 | Wow. Okay. | 760.7261 |
717 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 760.6598 | You know, so | 761.4929 |
718 | | 761.7674 | I said well, | 762.4065 |
720 | | 762.7993 | uh, I could be a part of that, [you know (laughing).] | 764.8489 |
721 | PRV_int_01 | 764.2884 | [Yeah.] | 764.8469 |
722 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 765.2871 | So that's- that's | 766.0871 |
724 | | 766.3095 | when I first became interested was in nineteen eighty one. | 768.5153 |
725 | PRV_int_01 | 768.7662 | You said you saw- you saw a house burn down or? | 771.0788 |
726 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 771.1641 | Well I saw /a/ | 772.5367 |
728 | | 772.8539 | they came- | 773.4456 |
730 | | 773.7248 | had a fire- | 774.5579 |
732 | | 774.6905 | uh, small fire at my house, at my residence. | 776.8138 |
733 | PRV_int_01 | 776.8942 | Oh. | 777.1972 |
734 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 777.2966 | [And um,] | 777.9451 |
735 | PRV_int_01 | 777.3227 | [Okay.] | 777.6971 |
736 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 778.2196 | uh, it was nothing to it, it was a small fire and it [kind of]- | 780.8041 |
737 | PRV_int_01 | 780.4065 | [Mm-hm.] | 780.6763 |
738 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 781.6182 | the response time was pretty | 782.8043 |
740 | | 783.0268 | poor. | 783.2777 |
741 | PRV_int_01 | 783.5427 | Yeah. | 783.8125 |
742 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 784.1770 | And that | 784.6030 |
744 | | 784.9722 | made me a little upset and wanted to know what- why. | 787.2963 |
746 | | 787.4194 | And uh, uh, luckily we was able to put it out ourselves but that | 790.1817 |
748 | | 790.8965 | made me start looking into it more. [And-] and that's when I really start realizing | 794.6406 |
749 | PRV_int_01 | 792.7520 | [Yeah.] | 793.0265 |
750 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 795.5191 | the word volunteer fireman | 796.7782 |
752 | | 797.2184 | meant [volunteer.] | 798.1603 |
753 | PRV_int_01 | 797.6491 | [Volunteer.] | 798.3260 |
754 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 798.3923 | You know? [<laugh>] You know, | 799.9969 |
755 | PRV_int_01 | 798.7378 | [Right. <laugh>] | 799.7507 |
756 | | 800.2336 | [Yeah.] | 800.4702 |
757 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 800.2714 | [so] sitting there waiting on- you could hear the fire whistle from here from my house. | 803.5592 |
758 | PRV_int_01 | 803.6207 | Yeah. | 803.9568 |
759 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 803.9378 | And I could hear the fire whistle constantly blowing, | 805.8786 |
760 | PRV_int_01 | 805.8644 | Yeah. | 806.1484 |
761 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 806.1815 | and I wanted to know well where's the fire truck? | 807.7822 |
763 | | 808.0492 | You know, so um, uh, luckily it was nothing major and I- I- I appreciate that but | 813.1518 |
765 | | 813.4339 | if it- | 813.8220 |
767 | | 813.9971 | Those were the days were really you | 815.5402 |
769 | | 815.9047 | you either heard the fire whistle or you didn't hear it. | 817.4799 |
770 | PRV_int_01 | 817.5851 | Mm. | 817.7933 |
771 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 817.8786 | And if you didn't hear it as a fireman, you probably | 820.1077 |
773 | | 820.2669 | didn't respond. | 820.9438 |
774 | PRV_int_01 | 821.0669 | Yeah. | 821.3651 |
775 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 821.6964 | You know, so our response time back in those days was extremely poor. | 824.3898 |
776 | PRV_int_01 | 824.5866 | Mm. | 824.9605 |
778 | | 825.2209 | Mm. | 825.3960 |
779 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 825.4291 | You know. | 825.7179 |
780 | PRV_int_01 | 826.0350 | Hm. | 826.2669 |
782 | | 826.5083 | But it made you wanna kind of turn [that] around? | 828.3071 |
783 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 827.8195 | [Yeah.] | 828.0846 |
784 | | 828.3118 | You know, try to see if I could help. | 829.9638 |
785 | PRV_int_01 | 830.0726 | Yeah. | 830.3945 |
786 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 830.5412 | You know, and- and whatnot. So that really caught my interest then. | 833.4929 |
787 | PRV_int_01 | 833.6112 | [Okay.] | 834.1887 |
788 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 833.7154 | [And I think] was only | 834.6763 |
789 | | 835.6892 | a couple years later, | 836.8489 |
791 | | 837.4575 | maybe two to three years later, that's when I joined. | 839.2941 |
792 | PRV_int_01 | 839.4361 | Mkay. | 839.9047 |
793 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 839.9852 | You know, so that's when I- I | 841.5330 |
795 | | 841.7555 | kind of joined, say well maybe I can offer them some kind of assistant /which/ volunteer. | 845.2799 |
796 | PRV_int_01 | 845.3556 | Yeah. | 845.5876 |
797 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 845.7390 | You know, so I knew coming in that we weren't gonna get paid. | 847.9874 |
798 | PRV_int_01 | 848.1152 | Mm-hm. | 848.4892 |
799 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 848.5838 | And the word volunteer | 849.7889 |
801 | | 849.9593 | firemen | 850.3900 |
803 | | 850.8870 | does not- did not sit real good with people. [You can say] no pay, | 853.9002 |
804 | PRV_int_01 | 852.9035 | [Right.] | 853.2963 |
805 | | 854.0706 | Right. | 854.3830 |
806 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 854.4824 | but that don't sit real good [with people.] | 855.9214 |
807 | PRV_int_01 | 855.4007 | [Sure.] So everyone here is a volunteer? | 857.3367 |
808 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 857.4787 | Oh yeah, everyone here is [volunteer.] | 859.2632 |
809 | PRV_int_01 | 858.9934 | [And] so they all have day jobs and- | 860.6609 |
810 | | 861.5285 | and then they uh- | 862.2622 |
811 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 862.5557 | Uh, well if you're volunteer you never have a day off. | 865.1354 |
812 | PRV_int_01 | 865.3200 | Well, | 865.6939 |
814 | | 865.8502 | you never have a day off? | 866.6880 |
815 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 866.6643 | No. | 866.9152 |
816 | PRV_int_01 | 866.8990 | Oh okay. | 867.4577 |
817 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 867.4149 | It's all volunteer. So that means that if you're busy, you're just busy. | 870.7283 |
818 | PRV_int_01 | 870.9129 | Mm. | 871.3058 |
819 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 871.3058 | But if you can come, when it- | 872.9578 |
820 | | 873.3676 | when the tone go off, uh, you can come, you come, if you can't, you can't. | 876.4785 |
822 | | 876.6086 | It doesn't mean I can't go | 878.0081 |
824 | | 878.1353 | out of town because I'm a volunteer fireman, just that you have to | 881.0196 |
826 | | 881.4408 | put trust that | 882.2550 |
828 | | 882.5721 | you have enough of 'em | 883.6182 |
830 | | 883.8502 | to respond in case of an emergency. | 885.3534 |
831 | PRV_int_01 | 885.4623 | Oh really? [Okay.] | 886.3190 |
832 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 885.8599 | [Yeah and the] whole county's like that. | 887.3225 |
833 | PRV_int_01 | 887.4740 | Really? | 887.8810 |
834 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 887.9047 | Yep. | 888.2029 |
835 | PRV_int_01 | 888.2266 | Wow. | 888.5816 |
836 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 888.5863 | Yep. | 888.9224 |
837 | PRV_int_01 | 889.5330 | So you- so | 890.3708 |
839 | | 890.5534 | you try and make sure somebody's here at all times or at least people are- | 894.3828 |
840 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 894.4822 | We try to keep enough on the roster to make sure that- | 896.8205 |
842 | | 897.0504 | Well the dedication that you have- It's all about dedication. | 899.2894 |
843 | PRV_int_01 | 899.2799 | Yeah. | 899.5970 |
844 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 899.6302 | You know, you can have fifty | 900.5816 |
846 | | 900.8325 | but they're not dedicated, /I could have a one/. | 902.3472 |
847 | PRV_int_01 | 902.4777 | Right. | 902.8942 |
848 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 903.0552 | You know, so if you have | 904.4610 |
850 | | 904.6882 | uh, dedicated people, | 905.8384 |
852 | | 906.3639 | somebody's usually around. You know, we- I communicate good with my assistant | 909.7605 |
854 | | 910.1486 | uh, chief and captain to make sure they know if I'm out of town and they let me know if they're out of town so | 914.7353 |
855 | PRV_int_01 | 914.7854 | [Mm-hm.] | 915.1248 |
856 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 914.9700 | [communication] is very important. | 916.2054 |
857 | PRV_int_01 | 916.5320 | Yeah. | 916.8634 |
858 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 916.9249 | Let people know where you are. | 917.9520 |
859 | PRV_int_01 | 919.2537 | Yeah, when- how many fires have you had? | 921.2114 |
861 | | 921.4339 | Did you have a lot- have you had a lot of fires? | 922.9722 |
862 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 923.4976 | Uh, | 924.0230 |
864 | | 924.3165 | we get | 924.9177 |
866 | | 925.5377 | a lot- we get more fire calls than any fire department in the county. | 928.2101 |
867 | PRV_int_01 | 928.2480 | Oh wow. | 928.7166 |
868 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 928.9391 | And uh, we get | 929.9899 |
870 | | 930.3165 | probably EMS calls, which we, uh, /??/ respond | 933.6753 |
872 | | 934.0066 | toll free and first responder now- we go on first responder [level,] | 936.8609 |
873 | PRV_int_01 | 936.7864 | [Mm-hm.] | 937.1827 |
874 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 937.4289 | so we probably get | 938.4418 |
876 | | 938.9605 | three times as many | 939.7936 |
878 | | 940.0208 | those call ins, as we do fire calls. | 941.6680 |
879 | PRV_int_01 | 941.6538 | Oh wow (laughing). | 942.1035 |
880 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 942.2597 | [<laugh>] | 943.1070 |
881 | PRV_int_01 | 942.4775 | [Okay.] | 942.9035 |
882 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 943.3058 | <laugh> | 943.5377 |
884 | | 943.9212 | So the fire calls is- | 945.0694 |
886 | | 945.6232 | we have our months | 946.6125 |
888 | | 946.7640 | where we're extremely busy | 947.8195 |
889 | PRV_int_01 | 947.8384 | Yeah. | 948.0893 |
890 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 948.0751 | and we have our months when we | 949.3673 |
891 | | 949.6892 | pretty quiet. | 950.3614 |
892 | PRV_int_01 | 950.7049 | So you do like EMS type stuff? | 952.3048 |
893 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 952.2953 | Mm-hm, we do EMS. We just don't transport. We just do first responder, things [like that.] | 956.0064 |
894 | PRV_int_01 | 955.4762 | [Oh okay.] | 955.8454 |
895 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 956.3708 | Help get down there | 957.3629 |
896 | PRV_int_01 | 957.4717 | [Someone's got-] | 958.2104 |
897 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 957.7321 | [bring the aid] for 'em. [Exactly.] | 959.1994 |
898 | PRV_int_01 | 958.6314 | [Yeah.] | 958.9770 |
899 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 959.8905 | And uh, | 960.4254 |
901 | | 960.8609 | we have a outstanding response time now | 963.3392 |
903 | | 963.6043 | /when/ we [used] to have a response time has uh, increased tremendously. | 966.3781 |
904 | PRV_int_01 | 963.7652 | [Really?] | 964.0019 |
905 | | 966.7520 | Okay. | 967.1496 |
906 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 967.1733 | We have guys now that spend the night down here. | 969.3043 |
907 | PRV_int_01 | 969.5901 | Yeah. | 969.8599 |
908 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 969.9214 | You know, it- but it's not mandatory. It's just- | 971.4550 |
909 | PRV_int_01 | 971.4361 | Sure. | 971.7485 |
910 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 971.8100 | i- they have nothing else to do. | 973.0265 |
912 | | 973.3342 | Those are the ones don't have a wife /in their house/ (laughing). [<laugh>] Those are the | 977.1410 |
913 | PRV_int_01 | 975.3865 | [Right. <laugh>] | 976.2764 |
914 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 977.4882 | eighteen and nineteen year old ones that can do [that. <laugh>] Married men don't do that. <laugh> | 981.7321 |
915 | PRV_int_01 | 979.3247 | [Okay.] | 979.9874 |
916 | | 982.0208 | So it's uh- it- there's a age limit? Is there- | 983.9378 |
917 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 983.9615 | Yeah you have to be at least eighteen years of age to be a fireman but you can join at | 987.9593 |
919 | | 988.6125 | sixteen if you're a junior firefighter. [But you] can't participate in firefighting | 992.0998 |
920 | PRV_int_01 | 990.2124 | [Oh wow.] | 990.5816 |
921 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 992.4134 | unless your department /???/ allows it, ours don't allow it. | 995.3036 |
922 | PRV_int_01 | 996.2029 | So you have uh- | 997.1591 |
924 | | 997.6939 | do you- so most of your calls are for what? Things like | 1000.3143 |
926 | | 1000.6882 | uh, | 1001.0953 |
928 | | 1001.4456 | health related things? Somebody having a heart attack or something like that [or?] | 1004.5462 |
929 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1004.2762 | [/?/] most of 'em are uh, | 1005.8626 |
930 | | 1006.0445 | heart attacks, um, | 1007.7248 |
932 | | 1007.9378 | /??/ calls, [uh], difficulty breathing, get a lot of difficulty breathing | 1011.6516 |
933 | PRV_int_01 | 1009.0313 | [Mm-hm.] | 1009.3910 |
934 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1012.1202 | uh calls now. So most of 'em are EMS calls. | 1014.9934 |
935 | PRV_int_01 | 1016.0821 | So get like a- a lot of uh, elderly uh, | 1018.9675 |
936 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1018.9770 | Yeah. | 1019.2610 |
937 | PRV_int_01 | 1019.2042 | /??/ [community-] | 1019.9568 |
938 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1019.7012 | [Middle age] to elderly people uh, | 1021.6797 |
939 | | 1022.5270 | sometime not taking their medication or can't afford to get their medication or | 1025.9568 |
940 | PRV_int_01 | 1025.9284 | Yeah. | 1026.2834 |
941 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1026.2124 | get a lot of calls | 1027.0265 |
942 | | 1027.4999 | uh, | 1027.9732 |
944 | | 1028.1436 | routinely to the same resident | 1029.5569 |
946 | | 1029.8125 | a lot of times. So you almost- when you hear the address on the radio you already know who [it is roughly.] | 1034.3377 |
947 | PRV_int_01 | 1033.5709 | [Who it is.] | 1034.1626 |
948 | | 1034.4493 | Yeah. | 1034.8374 |
949 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1034.8516 | So | 1035.2303 |
951 | | 1035.4197 | uh, | 1035.8220 |
953 | | 1036.2622 | /we do do all that/. See we're in a- we're in a neutral location, which allow us to run mutual aid for every fire department in the county except for | 1043.3320 |
955 | | 1044.0183 | section thirteen, I believe is /unintelligible/. | 1046.0916 |
956 | PRV_int_01 | 1046.2383 | Oh. | 1046.5223 |
957 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1046.6481 | So that's one of the reason why we get more calls than any fire department cause we always assisting [somebody else.] | 1050.5579 |
958 | PRV_int_01 | 1050.1934 | [Oh okay], so you helping other | 1051.5756 |
959 | | 1051.7318 | [people out] in Tarboro and other [surrounding] places. | 1054.1912 |
960 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1051.8955 | [Right.] | 1052.2126 |
962 | | 1053.5001 | [Mm-hm.] | 1053.8504 |
964 | | 1054.1486 | We help everybody but one other fire department in the [whole county.] | 1056.2692 |
965 | PRV_int_01 | 1055.7864 | [Okay.] Oh wow. | 1056.6715 |
966 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1056.7567 | [Yeah.] | 1057.1165 |
967 | PRV_int_01 | 1056.9224 | [Okay], so yeah, that'll keep you busy. | 1058.5128 |
968 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1058.5176 | Oh [yeah. It keep us-] | 1059.4670 |
969 | PRV_int_01 | 1058.7759 | [<laugh>] | 1059.4197 |
970 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1059.7889 | /?/ on our toes. | 1060.7326 |
971 | PRV_int_01 | 1060.7261 | Okay. | 1061.2468 |
972 | | 1062.1366 | /??/ | 1062.7047 |
974 | | 1064.0016 | Do you um- | 1064.6738 |
976 | | 1065.6705 | do you remember- now I know it's- i- | 1067.6728 |
978 | | 1068.0656 | Princeville is on a- a- like a- on a flood plain, [is that?] | 1071.7037 |
979 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1071.2966 | [Mm-hm.] | 1071.7699 |
980 | PRV_int_01 | 1071.9545 | And that- until | 1072.7829 |
982 | | 1073.0196 | there was a levy built in uh, or the- | 1075.1165 |
984 | | 1075.9259 | in the like, sixties? | 1077.3278 |
986 | | 1077.5522 | That's what I heard? | 1078.2338 |
987 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1078.5746 | Uh, | 1079.0811 |
988 | PRV_int_01 | 1079.0196 | The- | 1079.3840 |
989 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1079.7722 | the dyke. | 1080.2029 |
990 | PRV_int_01 | 1080.1840 | The dyke [there.] | 1080.9129 |
991 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1080.6621 | [Mm-hm.] | 1081.1117 |
992 | PRV_int_01 | 1081.2537 | [Yeah.] | 1081.5377 |
993 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1081.3342 | [In the early] sixties wont it? | 1082.3850 |
994 | | 1083.4291 | Cause they extend it since the flood. They raised it another so many feet since the flood. [Cause you have] uh- it was there, uh, put there in the sixties. | 1090.2243 |
995 | PRV_int_01 | 1087.3768 | [Right.] | 1087.6845 |
997 | | 1090.1391 | Mm-hm. | 1090.4941 |
998 | misc | 1091.0243 | /Inaudible/. | 1091.3840 |
999 | PRV_int_01 | 1091.5402 | And do you remember any other floods before that? | 1093.6466 |
1000 | misc | 1093.7223 | Andrew, | 1094.0726 |
1002 | | 1094.2951 | think it was in the seventies. | 1095.2500 |
1003 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1095.5711 | The dyke was built in the seventies? | 1096.6929 |
1005 | | 1096.8965 | Okay. | 1097.3414 |
1007 | | 1098.3260 | I don't remember any other flood other than just | 1100.2809 |
1009 | | 1100.7069 | low level floods, | 1101.6843 |
1010 | PRV_int_01 | 1101.6753 | Okay. | 1101.9423 |
1011 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1101.8315 | you know, where you | 1102.4752 |
1012 | | 1102.6219 | could walk in it, | 1103.4124 |
1014 | | 1103.6112 | [where] it would be sometime like almost knee high, | 1105.9042 |
1015 | PRV_int_01 | 1103.6112 | [Mm.] | 1103.8668 |
1016 | | 1106.0206 | Mm-hm. | 1106.3850 |
1017 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1106.4040 | but | 1106.6501 |
1019 | | 1106.9037 | as far as | 1107.4055 |
1021 | | 1107.5711 | evacuating the whole town, I don't know more- I don't think we had a lot of those type floods. | 1111.1638 |
1022 | PRV_int_01 | 1111.2159 | Did that happen a lot? Just where you [had like-] | 1113.1708 |
1023 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1112.6576 | [Oh yeah], that happened every time it rain [hard.] | 1114.4705 |
1024 | PRV_int_01 | 1114.3664 | [Really?] | 1114.7498 |
1025 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1114.7640 | Yeah. [<laugh>] | 1116.3828 |
1026 | PRV_int_01 | 1115.1663 | [Okay (laughing).] | 1115.9568 |
1027 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1116.6195 | Every time you had a hard rain, you can look forward to water /cordoning/ across the highway. | 1119.9687 |
1028 | PRV_int_01 | 1120.0161 | [Oh /yeah/, really?] | 1120.9012 |
1029 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1120.2054 | [You know, that- that wasn't] too- | 1121.2326 |
1030 | | 1121.4787 | that was normal. | 1122.0420 |
1031 | PRV_int_01 | 1122.3544 | And [not high?] | 1122.9224 |
1032 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1122.4964 | [And I think] that's why a lot of people took the flood | 1124.2052 |
1033 | | 1124.5128 | less seriously because | 1125.4818 |
1034 | PRV_int_01 | 1125.3913 | /??/. | 1125.6847 |
1035 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1125.7983 | their | 1126.0303 |
1037 | | 1126.2054 | memory from the old days. | 1127.3462 |
1038 | PRV_int_01 | 1127.3509 | Okay. | 1127.7390 |
1039 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1127.8526 | Yeah. | 1128.1840 |
1040 | PRV_int_01 | 1128.1224 | So it's just like, oh [it's just another rain.] | 1130.1673 |
1041 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1129.0123 | [Yeah, yeah, just you] know, a little knee high water [that] go away [but that] didn't go away. | 1133.4077 |
1042 | PRV_int_01 | 1131.3723 | [Mm.] | 1131.6800 |
1044 | | 1132.2575 | [Okay.] | 1132.7640 |
1045 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1133.9804 | And uh, that kept coming. | 1135.1685 |
1046 | PRV_int_01 | 1135.6797 | How- uh- w- did you have a lot of trouble when that happened? I mean how do you get out of town? Or how do you- | 1139.5402 |
1048 | | 1140.0278 | people just kind of stay in when it rains like that or? | 1142.3898 |
1049 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1143.0836 | Pretty much so they stay in. | 1144.2243 |
1050 | PRV_int_01 | 1144.2622 | Yeah? | 1144.5273 |
1051 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1144.4894 | You know, um, | 1145.6680 |
1052 | | 1145.8384 | m- | 1146.0893 |
1054 | | 1146.2929 | they wont a lot of houses back this- it was like [more] | 1148.7116 |
1055 | PRV_int_01 | 1148.2856 | [Hm.] | 1148.4844 |
1056 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1148.9510 | away from the river. | 1149.8031 |
1057 | PRV_int_01 | 1150.1155 | Mkay. | 1150.4326 |
1058 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1150.4515 | You know, but the one that was up this way usually was the one that got the water in their yard. But yeah, they just pretty much stayed home. | 1155.5644 |
1059 | PRV_int_01 | 1155.7557 | Okay. | 1156.2007 |
1060 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1156.2717 | Yeah. | 1156.5888 |
1061 | PRV_int_01 | 1158.2834 | And you said uh, | 1159.1827 |
1063 | | 1159.3105 | so when the- when- | 1160.0916 |
1065 | | 1160.4229 | in ninety nine when it started | 1161.8599 |
1067 | | 1162.2764 | raining, people just kind of- | 1163.3651 |
1068 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1163.3840 | Yeah [just] | 1164.0940 |
1069 | PRV_int_01 | 1163.7059 | [/the water/-] | 1164.1130 |
1070 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1164.3923 | thought it was gonna pass over, [/??/] gonna rain a little bit of water | 1167.1025 |
1071 | PRV_int_01 | 1165.5756 | [Yeah.] | 1165.7460 |
1072 | | 1167.1714 | [Yeah.] | 1167.4718 |
1073 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1167.2398 | [you know], /let's see-/ | 1168.1581 |
1074 | | 1168.4279 | Plus even with the dyke now, | 1169.8621 |
1076 | | 1170.1177 | there's low level area in people yard [where the] water still stands, | 1173.2500 |
1077 | PRV_int_01 | 1172.0280 | [Hm.] | 1172.2268 |
1078 | | 1173.2682 | Oh [okay.] | 1173.7747 |
1079 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1173.5759 | [so a lot] of people just see that as just | 1175.2136 |
1080 | | 1176.0751 | hard rain with water in their [yard.] | 1177.5425 |
1081 | PRV_int_01 | 1177.2774 | [Sure.] | 1177.5567 |
1082 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1177.8265 | And didn't take the- didn't take the leaving seriously. | 1179.8930 |
1083 | PRV_int_01 | 1179.9451 | <ts> Oh wow. | 1180.4468 |
1084 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1180.4799 | You know. | 1180.8350 |
1085 | PRV_int_01 | 1181.3036 | So now what- how- | 1182.3307 |
1087 | | 1182.6100 | what- you were here at that time, right? | 1184.3837 |
1088 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1184.2998 | Mm-hm, [I was] here at that [time.] | 1185.5522 |
1089 | PRV_int_01 | 1184.4986 | [So-] | 1184.8678 |
1091 | | 1185.3487 | [What do you] remember about- about the flood or like | 1187.7154 |
1092 | | 1188.0041 | when- | 1188.3828 |
1094 | | 1188.6810 | when it first started raining? | 1190.1862 |
1095 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1191.3345 | Um, | 1191.9593 |
1097 | | 1192.2210 | well he was chief and I was assistant chief, | 1193.9520 |
1099 | | 1194.3402 | and um, | 1194.9697 |
1101 | | 1195.6750 | when we first start hearing it on the news, of course, you know, it was coming this way, | 1198.4894 |
1103 | | 1198.8066 | I think we was here at the station just | 1200.3639 |
1105 | | 1200.7141 | on call | 1201.5093 |
1107 | | 1201.6229 | and uh, | 1202.2525 |
1109 | | 1203.1877 | we got a | 1203.8267 |
1111 | | 1204.6172 | guy from- that was checking on the dyke, | 1206.4708 |
1113 | | 1206.6263 | went to town and that was his job, [to] keep us in- posted with the dyke. And [he saw] that the dyke was rate was still rising at uh, think he said was four inches | 1213.8928 |
1114 | PRV_int_01 | 1208.0632 | [Oh.] | 1208.3188 |
1116 | | 1210.1155 | [Hm.] | 1210.3001 |
1117 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1214.2762 | an hour. | 1214.6643 |
1118 | PRV_int_01 | 1214.9463 | Oh wow. | 1215.3297 |
1119 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1215.5948 | And that- and he said we need to either | 1217.4787 |
1121 | | 1218.3023 | try to help sand bag it, or we need to look at evacuating the town. | 1221.4244 |
1122 | PRV_int_01 | 1221.5096 | Mm-hm. | 1221.8409 |
1123 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1222.2622 | So we had already started to evacuate | 1224.1414 |
1125 | | 1224.4869 | people- the- the elderly to the town hall | 1226.5176 |
1126 | PRV_int_01 | 1226.6150 | Oh okay. | 1227.1451 |
1127 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1227.1404 | at the time. | 1227.7652 |
1128 | PRV_int_01 | 1227.8693 | Alright. | 1228.1770 |
1129 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1228.3947 | Uh- I- I advised them to open up the town hall to at least get 'em somewhere. | 1232.5081 |
1131 | | 1233.0268 | And once we got 'em there we got the word that they can't stay there cause it- it was still rising so [we had] to try to locate somewhere else [and we end] up locating 'em to Tarboro High School. | 1240.5209 |
1132 | PRV_int_01 | 1237.0313 | [Mm.] | 1237.2821 |
1134 | | 1238.6150 | [Okay.] | 1239.0721 |
1135 | | 1240.7450 | Oh okay. | 1241.2846 |
1136 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1241.5308 | Yeah, and we actually | 1242.4112 |
1138 | | 1242.6905 | uh, evacuated them with the fire trucks. | 1244.3472 |
1139 | PRV_int_01 | 1244.4040 | Oh okay. | 1244.8726 |
1141 | | 1245.2303 | [Okay.] | 1245.5806 |
1142 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1245.4197 | [You] know, | 1245.8315 |
1143 | | 1246.1628 | uh- | 1246.5983 |
1144 | PRV_int_01 | 1246.5841 | Now what- how- when did you make that decision when- when people decided to [s-] | 1250.3046 |
1145 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1249.9638 | [The decision] was made when we was- when he was at the dyke | 1252.4326 |
1146 | | 1252.6077 | and uh, they was uh, sand bagging the dyke, saw that it wa- it was gonna go over it based on the | 1257.1593 |
1148 | | 1257.6090 | whatever report they was getting. | 1258.7403 |
1149 | PRV_int_01 | 1258.7450 | Yeah. | 1259.0290 |
1150 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1258.9864 | So we decide to just stop sand bagging, and just say, | 1261.0024 |
1151 | | 1261.1780 | evacuate the town. | 1261.9070 |
1152 | PRV_int_01 | 1261.9922 | Mm-hm. | 1262.4418 |
1153 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1262.2931 | The mayor made the decision and we just | 1263.8883 |
1154 | | 1264.1464 | of course just went from there. | 1265.3551 |
1155 | PRV_int_01 | 1265.5071 | Okay. | 1265.9284 |
1156 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1266.1035 | You know, | 1266.5795 |
1158 | | 1266.8609 | and that's- and that decision was made somewhere around what? | 1269.2500 |
1160 | | 1269.5191 | Uh, eleven? | 1270.5793 |
1161 | misc | 1271.1852 | No it was /maybe the uh/- | 1272.7473 |
1163 | | 1273.4999 | Ten past one. | 1274.3140 |
1164 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1274.4635 | Ten past one at night. | 1275.5569 |
1166 | | 1275.7699 | Yeah. | 1276.0820 |
1167 | misc | 1276.1107 | /Inaudible/ | 1276.9344 |
1168 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1276.8681 | /Inaudible/ | 1277.6917 |
1169 | | 1278.5343 | So we was- | 1279.1165 |
1171 | | 1279.2774 | we stayed up | 1280.3330 |
1173 | | 1280.6244 | probably all night just evacuating people. | 1282.7166 |
1174 | PRV_int_01 | 1282.7308 | Okay. | 1283.1521 |
1175 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1283.2988 | Yep. | 1283.5734 |
1176 | PRV_int_01 | 1283.7106 | Okay. | 1284.0846 |
1177 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1284.1082 | Sure did. | 1284.6195 |
1179 | | 1285.3105 | Once the decision was made we just went on and- | 1287.1214 |
1181 | | 1287.4244 | course the phone was ringing off the hook | 1288.6077 |
1182 | PRV_int_01 | 1288.7971 | Mm-hm. | 1289.0527 |
1183 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1289.1805 | cause there was rumors we was gonna have to evacuate, | 1291.2727 |
1185 | | 1291.5377 | people had to leave. There was some that at the time | 1293.5427 |
1187 | | 1293.8788 | was told not yet, | 1295.0006 |
1188 | PRV_int_01 | 1295.0527 | [Mm.] | 1295.3036 |
1189 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1295.1521 | [so it] was | 1295.5497 |
1190 | | 1296.1177 | crossing up the communication lines so when we finally got the okay we started telling people then, yes. | 1300.5415 |
1192 | | 1300.9486 | We went out on the truck and got on the- the um, microphone or horn | 1303.9780 |
1193 | PRV_int_01 | 1304.0584 | Mm-hm. | 1304.3992 |
1194 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1304.3878 | and just let 'em know that you need to evacuate. | 1306.3474 |
1195 | PRV_int_01 | 1306.5604 | Mm-hm. | 1306.9154 |
1196 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1307.0811 | Um, | 1307.4314 |
1198 | | 1308.1082 | not realizing that in some area it was already too high for them to even get out. | 1311.5995 |
1199 | PRV_int_01 | 1311.6705 | [Mm.] | 1311.9608 |
1200 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1311.8078 | [We didn't] know that. | 1312.5334 |
1201 | PRV_int_01 | 1312.6598 | Okay. | 1313.0716 |
1202 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1312.9817 | You know, we didn't know that. | 1314.0704 |
1203 | | 1315.5141 | So we drove in and uh, couple friends | 1317.5380 |
1205 | | 1318.0208 | help | 1318.4468 |
1207 | | 1318.6125 | themselves and couple guys had their own boat, | 1320.7425 |
1209 | | 1321.1685 | and we were using their boats [to go into] the area that was- water was high enough to get the | 1324.3995 |
1210 | PRV_int_01 | 1322.3026 | [Oh.] | 1322.6197 |
1211 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1324.6693 | boat in and put 'em on the boats and | 1326.3828 |
1213 | | 1326.9271 | bring 'em out. And we [was-] | 1327.7555 |
1214 | PRV_int_01 | 1327.5425 | [Okay.] | 1327.9827 |
1215 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1328.1673 | I remember bringing people out in a chair | 1329.7983 |
1216 | PRV_int_01 | 1330.1581 | Wow. | 1330.5367 |
1217 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1330.6456 | because they couldn't walk so we let 'em sit in the chair and brought 'em out | 1333.0739 |
1219 | | 1333.2727 | in the wa- in the [water you know], to- to the boat. | 1335.3297 |
1220 | PRV_int_01 | 1334.1389 | [Okay.] | 1334.6264 |
1221 | | 1335.5001 | Oh wow. | 1335.9877 |
1222 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1336.0161 | Especially in this uh, elderly /department/ it was called Prince Court. | 1338.8798 |
1223 | PRV_int_01 | 1339.1922 | [Mm-hm.] | 1339.5129 |
1224 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1339.3011 | [Prince]- Prince Court. | 1340.2667 |
1225 | | 1340.5460 | And uh, that was our biggest problem. | 1342.1202 |
1226 | PRV_int_01 | 1342.5225 | Mm. | 1342.7734 |
1227 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1342.9770 | You know, it was our biggest problem. Um, but I do remember | 1344.9887 |
1229 | | 1345.3389 | going in /downstown/ | 1346.5412 |
1231 | | 1347.1735 | and the water was probably | 1348.5793 |
1233 | | 1349.0243 | several feet already, that was- /??/ near where the river runs? | 1351.9590 |
1234 | PRV_int_01 | 1351.9448 | Mm-hm. | 1352.3850 |
1235 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1352.3424 | That there was already flooded and we didn't even know it. | 1354.4279 |
1236 | PRV_int_01 | 1354.6977 | Hm. | 1354.9391 |
1237 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1354.9959 | So it s- sort of like closing in on us. | 1356.7047 |
1238 | PRV_int_01 | 1356.9366 | [Oh wow.] | 1357.3957 |
1239 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1356.9508 | [Surrounding] us, and [we didn't even] realize [that.] | 1358.6028 |
1240 | PRV_int_01 | 1357.5472 | [Oh wow.] | 1358.0016 |
1242 | | 1358.4209 | [Oh] wow, so you were in some danger. | 1359.9025 |
1243 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1359.9167 | Oh yeah we was in much more danger that what we was told. | 1362.1698 |
1244 | PRV_int_01 | 1362.1792 | Oh really. | 1362.6479 |
1245 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1362.9603 | Yeah, it- so uh, | 1364.2478 |
1247 | | 1364.6122 | I drove across the highway to go in that | 1367.3982 |
1249 | | 1367.7201 | area | 1368.1982 |
1251 | | 1368.7094 | two hours later, | 1369.4620 |
1253 | | 1369.8170 | there was the water too deep to drive the truck through. | 1371.7983 |
1254 | PRV_int_01 | 1372.1202 | Mm. | 1372.3332 |
1255 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1372.5604 | So we found another car back there so me and /RD-NAME-1/ went out there checked it out and you couldn't drive- drive the truck through there, it was that- that quick. | 1378.1060 |
1256 | PRV_int_01 | 1378.5273 | Wow. | 1378.8350 |
1257 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1379.0764 | You know, so | 1379.8810 |
1259 | | 1380.1650 | and I'm wondering well, I stay back there. | 1382.0916 |
1260 | PRV_int_01 | 1382.2762 | Mm-hm. | 1382.5696 |
1261 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1382.8138 | So I'm looking | 1383.7415 |
1263 | | 1383.9261 | well, where is the water coming from? | 1385.3698 |
1264 | PRV_int_01 | 1385.4834 | Right. | 1385.7580 |
1265 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1385.7816 | You know, but it had passed through and that area is low. There is no dyke in that area. | 1389.6294 |
1266 | PRV_int_01 | 1389.7273 | Okay. | 1390.0066 |
1267 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1390.1959 | So the water just- was /happen/ surrounding the town of Princeville /pity say/ nobody even realized. | 1394.0537 |
1268 | PRV_int_01 | 1394.0300 | Hm. | 1394.3093 |
1269 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1394.8090 | Yeah. | 1395.1025 |
1270 | PRV_int_01 | 1395.2493 | [And then now] where was your house at? /?/. | 1397.3651 |
1271 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1395.2587 | [But they realize-] | 1395.8031 |
1272 | | 1397.8716 | On uh, Ridgewood Road on [/??/] [Highway.] | 1399.9212 |
1273 | PRV_int_01 | 1399.0786 | [Oh.] | 1399.4336 |
1275 | | 1399.7460 | [Okay.] | 1400.1815 |
1276 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1400.3330 | That's where the- /after/ the first starting to- | 1402.3521 |
1278 | | 1402.6787 | you could tell you was in trouble. | 1403.9863 |
1279 | PRV_int_01 | 1404.0656 | Okay. | 1404.3686 |
1280 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1404.5106 | /?/ through that area right there. | 1405.8880 |
1281 | PRV_int_01 | 1406.0395 | So you- so you | 1407.1192 |
1283 | | 1407.4954 | got your family out? | 1408.3900 |
1284 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1408.4421 | Oh yeah. | 1408.7119 |
1286 | | 1408.8681 | I called 'em and told 'em that- | 1410.4112 |
1288 | | 1410.8183 | I actually- I went home and changed clothes probably two or three times just to get out of the wet clothes? | 1414.6409 |
1289 | PRV_int_01 | 1414.6409 | Mm-hm. | 1415.0480 |
1290 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1414.9580 | And I told 'em they could go ahead on and leave, | 1417.3579 |
1291 | | 1417.7602 | thinking that we was gonna be back in a couple of hours. | 1419.6895 |
1292 | PRV_int_01 | 1419.7936 | Yeah. | 1419.9735 |
1293 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1419.8977 | You know so we didn't take anything. | 1421.2468 |
1294 | PRV_int_01 | 1421.3320 | Sure. | 1421.6254 |
1295 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1421.6396 | You know, so we realized then that we was | 1423.8265 |
1297 | | 1424.0348 | um, | 1424.3330 |
1299 | | 1424.5602 | not gonna be coming back, | 1425.5901 |
1300 | PRV_int_01 | 1425.5238 | Yeah. | 1425.7368 |
1301 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1425.9829 | you know, for awhile. | 1426.9202 |
1303 | | 1427.4929 | But yeah, I- I warned my family and the neighbors- and the people in the [neighborhood, and] the- | 1431.2729 |
1304 | PRV_int_01 | 1430.7002 | [Mm.] | 1431.0362 |
1305 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1431.4386 | try to comfort some families, let 'em know, well yeah, | 1433.4787 |
1307 | | 1433.7769 | you- you need to evacuate, but I can't promise you when you will come back [/here/.] | 1437.0930 |
1308 | PRV_int_01 | 1436.8232 | [Yeah.] | 1437.1593 |
1309 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1437.3865 | You know. | 1437.7699 |
1311 | | 1438.3538 | I mean, people were just | 1439.3036 |
1313 | | 1439.7923 | hesitant about leaving. | 1440.7615 |
1314 | PRV_int_01 | 1440.7993 | [Yeah.] | 1441.0502 |
1315 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1440.8987 | [Cause] they didn't actually see the water in their yard. | 1443.1925 |
1316 | PRV_int_01 | 1443.2824 | Mm-hm. | 1443.6043 |
1317 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1443.9451 | You know, so if they see the water, | 1445.6207 |
1318 | PRV_int_01 | 1445.8479 | [Right.] | 1446.1272 |
1319 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1445.8526 | [Gonna] be /??/ in danger. | 1447.0123 |
1320 | PRV_int_01 | 1446.9934 | Yeah. | 1447.2963 |
1321 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1447.5614 | And you know, it's not like a tornado you can see it coming, [you know] this was the flood. | 1450.8597 |
1322 | PRV_int_01 | 1449.6611 | [Mm-hm.] | 1450.0539 |
1323 | | 1451.0764 | Yeah. | 1451.3604 |
1324 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1451.4834 | You know. | 1451.8574 |
1326 | | 1452.6053 | So if that dyke had burst | 1453.9401 |
1328 | | 1454.2004 | a little bit sooner- which I have pictures of that- | 1456.1439 |
1330 | | 1456.4563 | if it had a burst a little bit soon we woulda been in really | 1458.6573 |
1332 | | 1458.8798 | serious trouble. | 1459.5898 |
1333 | PRV_int_01 | 1459.5898 | Yeah. | 1459.8928 |
1334 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1460.1768 | And um, | 1460.6643 |
1336 | | 1461.1925 | so that was the very first area that we was asked to evacuate, [and most] of the people was already gone. | 1465.3579 |
1337 | PRV_int_01 | 1464.1461 | [Mm-hm.] | 1464.5011 |
1338 | | 1465.6419 | Yeah. [Really?] | 1466.3614 |
1339 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1466.0768 | [No] /??/ was already gone. I think we only had like, fifteen families that /actually/ still there. | 1470.1792 |
1340 | PRV_int_01 | 1470.2266 | Okay. | 1470.5437 |
1341 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1470.8135 | So they didn't take any chances cause they was right there on the river. | 1473.0856 |
1342 | PRV_int_01 | 1473.1972 | And they could see it? | 1473.7510 |
1343 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1473.7652 | And they could see [it.] | 1474.3900 |
1344 | PRV_int_01 | 1474.2385 | [Yeah.] | 1474.5178 |
1345 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1474.6219 | So they left. | 1475.0290 |
1346 | PRV_int_01 | 1475.0764 | Yeah. | 1475.3651 |
1347 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1475.4314 | You know. | 1475.7532 |
1348 | PRV_int_01 | 1476.1792 | Yeah. | 1476.4396 |
1350 | | 1476.8987 | Did you have any people that | 1478.0016 |
1352 | | 1478.4797 | stayed a little too long or? | 1479.8078 |
1353 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1479.8220 | Oh yeah. | 1480.2007 |
1355 | | 1480.6693 | We had quite a few | 1481.4740 |
1356 | PRV_int_01 | 1481.6728 | <laugh> | 1481.9946 |
1357 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1481.8716 | stay a little too long and /they/ had to be rescued by uh, Army [helicopter.] | 1485.7415 |
1358 | PRV_int_01 | 1485.6327 | [Oh] really? | 1486.2007 |
1359 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1486.4089 | /inaudible/ | 1486.8350 |
1361 | | 1487.0243 | So we had some that just stayed and stayed and stayed, while- | 1489.4478 |
1363 | | 1489.9685 | I know one lady | 1490.9294 |
1365 | | 1491.2729 | that's friends with uh, | 1492.4705 |
1367 | | 1492.7119 | family who | 1493.4314 |
1369 | | 1493.8810 | didn't know | 1494.6053 |
1371 | | 1494.8893 | that the flood was that bad. | 1496.0348 |
1372 | PRV_int_01 | 1496.0632 | Mm. | 1496.3424 |
1373 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1496.4608 | And when she woke up the next morning, looked out the window and saw water. | 1499.3793 |
1374 | PRV_int_01 | 1499.3840 | Mm. | 1499.6586 |
1375 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1499.8952 | And it lucky that she was able to drive her car through. | 1501.9780 |
1377 | | 1502.7854 | Just guessing between the house and the mailbox, using the mailbox as a guide | 1506.1130 |
1378 | PRV_int_01 | 1506.1130 | Aw. | 1506.5532 |
1379 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1506.5248 | and knowing where the road sposta be. | 1507.9212 |
1380 | PRV_int_01 | 1507.8786 | Oh man. | 1508.5034 |
1381 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1508.4892 | And just drove out with she and her mother. | 1509.9403 |
1382 | PRV_int_01 | 1510.2338 | And she- did she make it? | 1511.2231 |
1383 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1511.1994 | She made it. [She made it.] | 1512.1934 |
1384 | PRV_int_01 | 1511.6396 | [Oh wow.] | 1512.1603 |
1385 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1512.4301 | She made [it.] | 1512.8845 |
1386 | PRV_int_01 | 1512.6668 | [Just] kind of guessing where [the road-] | 1513.9969 |
1387 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1513.6466 | [Yeah] guessing where the road should be. | 1515.0410 |
1388 | PRV_int_01 | 1515.1025 | <laugh> | 1515.4859 |
1389 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1515.5759 | You know, and she was probably but one of the few that stayed in our whole community. | 1518.9177 |
1390 | PRV_int_01 | 1518.9508 | Yeah. | 1519.3200 |
1391 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1519.5330 | You know, cause she say, where everybody at? | 1521.3297 |
1393 | | 1521.6800 | Everybody was gone, when she looked out her door and all she saw was water /???/ probably this high. | 1525.1827 |
1394 | PRV_int_01 | 1525.3768 | Oh wow. | 1525.8833 |
1395 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1526.0632 | And she knew it was time to go. | 1527.1835 |
1396 | PRV_int_01 | 1527.5948 | [Man.] | 1527.9119 |
1397 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1527.7936 | [You] know, but we went out there in our own neighborhood to warn our own people- [let them] know that, you know, you might wanna go. | 1533.1063 |
1398 | PRV_int_01 | 1531.0644 | [Yeah.] | 1531.3957 |
1399 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1533.4291 | And at that, we used boat out there in that area | 1535.2988 |
1401 | | 1535.5260 | to get out people. | 1536.4065 |
1402 | PRV_int_01 | 1536.7804 | Oh [okay.] | 1537.1827 |
1403 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1537.0076 | [You] know. | 1537.4431 |
1404 | | 1537.6939 | And it was amazing though because in one section you could use a boat | 1540.6370 |
1406 | | 1540.7924 | and another section you couldn't. | 1542.0230 |
1408 | | 1542.1792 | There was absolutely zero amount of water. | 1543.9164 |
1409 | PRV_int_01 | 1544.4986 | Really? | 1544.8110 |
1410 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1545.0315 | [Yeah.] | 1545.3581 |
1411 | PRV_int_01 | 1545.0978 | [So you had] | 1545.4670 |
1412 | | 1545.6847 | be careful [where you could] go and [everything.] [And wow.] | 1548.2171 |
1413 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1546.3190 | [Yeah.] | 1546.6702 |
1415 | | 1547.1237 | [Yeah.] | 1547.4030 |
1417 | | 1547.5402 | [Exactly.] | 1548.1236 |
1418 | PRV_int_01 | 1548.9603 | Wow. | 1549.2253 |
1420 | | 1550.5081 | So | 1551.0288 |
1422 | | 1552.0776 | the fire department at that time | 1553.7201 |
1424 | | 1554.3307 | had- had enough people to deal with- | 1556.1578 |
1426 | | 1556.7002 | with everything that was going on or they just basically did what you [could?] | 1560.2502 |
1427 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1559.9899 | [You know], we did what we could. | 1561.2667 |
1428 | PRV_int_01 | 1561.2443 | Yeah. | 1561.5046 |
1429 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1561.5377 | You know, there's never enough man power to /help/ on a situation like that on [such short] notice. After | 1566.0940 |
1430 | PRV_int_01 | 1564.8823 | [Yeah.] | 1565.2231 |
1431 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1566.4207 | uh, notifying the fire marshal, uh, he said that | 1569.1025 |
1433 | | 1569.5617 | help was coming but it was gonna be several hours getting [here with] the um, National Guard, I guess. | 1573.8265 |
1434 | PRV_int_01 | 1572.1414 | [Hm.] | 1572.4207 |
1435 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1574.3472 | But um, that would- that woulda been too- | 1576.0208 |
1437 | | 1576.5083 | too long. | 1576.8397 |
1438 | PRV_int_01 | 1576.9628 | Too long? | 1577.3556 |
1439 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1577.3272 | You know, so when people who really needed to get out, two more hours woulda been too long for them to stay in- | 1581.5380 |
1440 | | 1581.7841 | in a area like that. | 1582.6882 |
1441 | PRV_int_01 | 1583.0480 | Mm. | 1583.2799 |
1443 | | 1583.8148 | So you- you really the | 1585.0739 |
1445 | | 1585.7413 | front [line?] | 1586.3102 |
1446 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1586.1105 | [It] was actually the front line. It was very front line. [<laugh>] | 1589.5402 |
1447 | PRV_int_01 | 1588.4326 | [<laugh>] | 1589.4503 |
1448 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1589.6633 | First attack. [<laugh>] | 1591.5803 |
1449 | PRV_int_01 | 1590.5343 | [<laugh>] | 1591.1259 |
1450 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1592.1294 | Yeah, so we actually | 1593.1329 |
1452 | | 1593.4623 | probably played a major major role in helping rescue | 1596.5390 |
1453 | PRV_int_01 | 1596.7378 | [Hm.] | 1596.9697 |
1454 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1596.7615 | [cause that] was actually their job. | 1598.2288 |
1455 | PRV_int_01 | 1598.5602 | Okay. | 1598.9246 |
1456 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1599.0741 | Uh, but we was assisting them cause they had heavy duty equipment, at times /unintelligible/. | 1604.0916 |
1457 | PRV_int_01 | 1604.4040 | [Mm.] | 1604.6548 |
1458 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1604.4513 | [You know] but as time- | 1605.5759 |
1459 | | 1605.8173 | if the truck could go, we took the truck. | 1607.4266 |
1460 | PRV_int_01 | 1607.4645 | Yeah. | 1607.7296 |
1461 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1608.0751 | You know, and like I said, we just | 1609.4951 |
1463 | | 1609.7697 | uh, put people that couldn't walk | 1611.2871 |
1465 | | 1611.4670 | and put 'em inside the truck and rescue vans and things, and just | 1614.9035 |
1467 | | 1615.3721 | uh, throw 'em out there with- and even our trucks. | 1617.6847 |
1469 | | 1618.2953 | We would help them anyway we could, | 1620.0988 |
1470 | PRV_int_01 | 1620.1414 | [Mm-hm.] | 1620.5106 |
1471 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1620.2881 | [to get 'em] out of that area. | 1621.2348 |
1472 | | 1621.5993 | [And there was-] | 1622.0206 |
1473 | PRV_int_01 | 1621.6087 | [Okay.] | 1622.0016 |
1474 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1622.3262 | and there was some that was very very glad to see us, | 1624.1675 |
1475 | PRV_int_01 | 1624.4231 | Yeah. | 1624.6551 |
1476 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1624.8397 | you know. | 1625.2752 |
1477 | PRV_int_01 | 1626.4065 | I bet. | 1626.8230 |
1479 | | 1627.3247 | I bet. | 1627.7460 |
1481 | | 1628.9842 | Do you have any particular | 1630.5509 |
1483 | | 1631.0101 | rescues that you remember or that- | 1632.7567 |
1484 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1633.5330 | The one that- the one that- that | 1635.0619 |
1486 | | 1635.3771 | the most was the one out here in uh, Prince Court when we had to actually bring- When we pulled up there was people standing in the door sweeping water out of their house. | 1643.0037 |
1487 | PRV_int_01 | 1643.0101 | Mm. | 1643.3178 |
1488 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1643.6065 | You know, so we saw that and we asked them- I asked them, I said why didn't y'all call us? They said the phones weren't working. | 1648.3517 |
1489 | PRV_int_01 | 1648.3711 | Mm. <ts> Okay. | 1649.1663 |
1490 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1649.1284 | So the water was rising, | 1650.3497 |
1491 | | 1650.6715 | nobody knew it, | 1651.5661 |
1493 | | 1651.9543 | so uh, we /had 'em going back there just out of a guess/, | 1654.3237 |
1494 | PRV_int_01 | 1654.3900 | Mm-hm. | 1654.7024 |
1495 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1654.7071 | they probably woulda been in trouble. | 1655.9568 |
1496 | PRV_int_01 | 1655.9520 | Okay. | 1656.4301 |
1497 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1656.4443 | And you know, but some of 'em couldn't walk, | 1657.6135 |
1498 | PRV_int_01 | 1657.8786 | Right. | 1658.1626 |
1499 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1658.3424 | so they was still sitting in the chair when we got there with water in the house. | 1661.0054 |
1500 | PRV_int_01 | 1661.1758 | Right. | 1661.4834 |
1501 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1661.6491 | So uh, those- that area right there, incident, I remember the most. | 1665.2500 |
1502 | PRV_int_01 | 1665.3439 | Okay. | 1665.7510 |
1503 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1665.8267 | You know, people could not come out on their own and | 1667.7911 |
1505 | | 1668.1035 | carrying 'em out | 1668.7331 |
1507 | | 1668.8940 | uh, | 1669.4289 |
1509 | | 1669.7791 | you know, in chairs and put them in boats, | 1671.5049 |
1510 | PRV_int_01 | 1671.6895 | Yeah. | 1672.0019 |
1511 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1672.0019 | uh, that would have been | 1673.1994 |
1512 | | 1673.7580 | uh, enough for a movie. | 1674.6857 |
1513 | PRV_int_01 | 1674.8656 | [Yeah. Okay.] | 1676.0158 |
1514 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1675.2017 | [You know (laughing)], that was a movie in the making [if we] coulda caught that on tape. | 1678.4089 |
1515 | PRV_int_01 | 1677.2587 | [Righ-] | 1677.4717 |
1516 | | 1678.5793 | Oh. | 1678.8586 |
1517 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1678.8444 | Yeah. | 1679.1568 |
1518 | PRV_int_01 | 1679.4976 | Pretty- pretty scary stuff. | 1680.7520 |
1519 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1680.7331 | Oh yeah [that was-] and it- | 1681.8312 |
1520 | PRV_int_01 | 1681.1307 | [Yeah.] | 1681.3815 |
1521 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1681.9922 | but we didn't realize it was water up here to our waist and chest everywhere- | 1685.1994 |
1523 | | 1685.4172 | walk- | 1685.7580 |
1525 | | 1685.8716 | didn't think twice. We just wanted rescue those people. [Didn't] think /??/ how- | 1689.3061 |
1526 | PRV_int_01 | 1688.0158 | [Sure.] | 1688.3566 |
1527 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1689.4907 | whether we were gonna step in a hole or not, we just think of the people in- [in that] area. | 1692.7899 |
1528 | PRV_int_01 | 1692.1082 | [Sure.] | 1692.5030 |
1529 | | 1692.9697 | Yeah. | 1693.2537 |
1531 | | 1693.7176 | And there were- I'm sure there were like, down | 1695.2966 |
1533 | | 1695.8930 | power lines and stuff [like that or?] | 1697.6822 |
1534 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1696.9202 | [Uh, we had] mostly down trees | 1699.5377 |
1535 | PRV_int_01 | 1699.4431 | Really? | 1699.7933 |
1536 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1699.8596 | than power lines. I'm glad of that. | 1701.2587 |
1537 | PRV_int_01 | 1701.4007 | Yeah. | 1701.7037 |
1538 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1701.6658 | Uh, we had mostly you know, debris | 1703.4361 |
1539 | PRV_int_01 | 1703.5876 | [Yeah.] | 1703.8337 |
1540 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1703.6680 | [to work with.] | 1704.2502 |
1541 | PRV_int_01 | 1704.4159 | To- to deal with. | 1705.2679 |
1543 | | 1705.5141 | Yeah. | 1705.9022 |
1545 | | 1707.3439 | So, | 1707.7652 |
1547 | | 1708.0019 | it was a- | 1708.7403 |
1548 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1709.5775 | [Yeah, I'm] glad of the power line, they stayed up. | 1711.2348 |
1549 | PRV_int_01 | 1709.5970 | [uh-] | 1709.8148 |
1550 | | 1711.8644 | [Yeah. <laugh>] | 1712.8631 |
1551 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1711.8880 | [You know? <laugh>] I don't think we woulda got in the water had been in a- in a- /popping sound/ [/or a-/] <laugh> | 1716.8135 |
1552 | PRV_int_01 | 1716.1414 | [Yeah.] | 1716.4680 |
1553 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1716.9224 | probably wouldn't have been able to get in there. | 1718.2146 |
1554 | PRV_int_01 | 1718.2714 | Right. | 1718.6690 |
1556 | | 1718.7570 | Right. | 1719.0031 |
1557 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1718.9794 | But we had people, we had firemans spread out in all different areas. [You know, we'd] just go- We was on the radio just saying, will you go check this area? We'll go check this area and | 1726.3900 |
1558 | PRV_int_01 | 1722.3639 | [Okay.] | 1722.7236 |
1559 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1726.9012 | uh, | 1727.3746 |
1561 | | 1727.6822 | you know, it was just amazing how some area had several feet of water and just right beside their house was no water | 1732.5273 |
1562 | PRV_int_01 | 1732.6503 | Mm. | 1732.9154 |
1563 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1733.2184 | And [uh, fact] that's the way this area is designed. | 1735.5614 |
1564 | PRV_int_01 | 1733.4172 | [Mm.] | 1733.7722 |
1565 | | 1735.6608 | Yeah. | 1735.9259 |
1566 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1735.9070 | You know, just- it's had some | 1737.3624 |
1567 | | 1737.8078 | strange design. | 1738.6548 |
1568 | PRV_int_01 | 1739.0622 | Yeah. | 1739.3840 |
1569 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1739.3746 | we have | 1739.7788 |
1570 | | 1739.9732 | everybody- the house is almost submerged, and some people, the houses never /?/ it never touched it [in the] same community. | 1745.2089 |
1571 | PRV_int_01 | 1744.2243 | [Hm.] | 1744.4989 |
1572 | | 1745.4077 | Okay. | 1745.8574 |
1573 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1745.8526 | You know. | 1746.2029 |
1574 | PRV_int_01 | 1746.1224 | So there were some houses that made it? | 1747.8454 |
1575 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1747.8028 | Oh yeah, there were- | 1748.3661 |
1576 | | 1748.6197 | uh, in Southern Terrace, I know. | 1749.7652 |
1577 | PRV_int_01 | 1750.2196 | Okay. | 1750.5557 |
1578 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1750.5557 | No houses made it in Princeville. | 1752.2124 |
1579 | PRV_int_01 | 1752.3071 | Right. | 1752.5863 |
1580 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1752.7851 | And those- there were no houses that made it in Princeville but in the- in the area down the highway there about | 1756.9959 |
1582 | | 1757.2326 | half a mile, | 1757.8526 |
1584 | | 1758.4207 | there were some that- | 1759.4478 |
1586 | | 1759.6371 | that would /fate/ a lot better than others. | 1761.2587 |
1587 | PRV_int_01 | 1761.2540 | Okay. | 1761.5664 |
1588 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1761.5995 | You know. | 1762.0445 |
1589 | misc | 1762.1155 | It was /inaudible/. | 1763.3651 |
1590 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1763.5071 | Because they sit up- one of 'em sit up on a hill. | 1765.1969 |
1591 | PRV_int_01 | 1765.4194 | Right. | 1765.7791 |
1592 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1765.7649 | /Unintelligible/ on a hill. | 1767.5238 |
1593 | | 1767.7936 | So obviously that would save a lot better. | 1769.7248 |
1594 | PRV_int_01 | 1769.8100 | Now I noticed that a lot of the new houses are a little | 1772.4276 |
1595 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1772.3708 | Mm-hm. | 1772.7495 |
1596 | PRV_int_01 | 1773.1972 | built up- up a little bit higher. | 1775.1048 |
1597 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1775.2231 | Uh, | 1775.7154 |
1599 | | 1775.8432 | well, | 1776.2218 |
1601 | | 1776.4869 | they had to. | 1777.0549 |
1602 | PRV_int_01 | 1777.1496 | Yeah. | 1777.4999 |
1603 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1777.7649 | You know, they had to build 'em up, you know, to build 'em back. | 1779.9309 |
1604 | PRV_int_01 | 1780.0303 | Yeah. | 1780.3319 |
1605 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1780.3991 | So that's- that's good in a sense but | 1782.5485 |
1607 | | 1783.0076 | course you /?/- there's- nothing's gonna | 1784.5696 |
1609 | | 1785.3581 | out level that if it- if that happens, so. If that [water] comes over the dyke now | 1789.1827 |
1610 | PRV_int_01 | 1787.5734 | [Yeah.] | 1787.8148 |
1611 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1789.6797 | you got a problem. | 1790.3140 |
1612 | PRV_int_01 | 1790.3499 | Yeah. | 1790.6339 |
1613 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1790.7996 | You know, [you got a serious] problem. | 1792.0492 |
1614 | PRV_int_01 | 1791.1262 | [You still got a problem.] | 1791.8865 |
1616 | | 1792.0019 | Yeah. | 1792.2527 |
1617 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1792.2007 | But that dyke has been raised if I'm not mistaken quite a few feet | 1795.5567 |
1618 | PRV_int_01 | 1795.6939 | Yeah. | 1795.9401 |
1619 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1796.0348 | from the- from the previous height so if it comes over that dyke now, | 1799.4740 |
1621 | | 1799.7816 | and I've seen /???/ make you think. | 1801.6087 |
1622 | PRV_int_01 | 1801.8407 | Yeah. | 1802.2146 |
1623 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1802.6264 | And uh, [went out there] one day, and I- it was | 1804.8681 |
1624 | PRV_int_01 | 1802.9179 | [/Right./] | 1803.1877 |
1625 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1805.7154 | enough to make you wonder. | 1806.7473 |
1626 | PRV_int_01 | 1806.9508 | Really? | 1807.2490 |
1627 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1807.3200 | You know, it was only probably a good fifteen feet away from the top | 1811.1474 |
1629 | | 1811.3225 | highest point of the dyke. | 1812.4254 |
1630 | PRV_int_01 | 1812.4065 | Hm. | 1812.6810 |
1631 | | 1813.1023 | [This was a-] another s- rain storm [you had?] | 1815.2682 |
1632 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1813.1117 | [You know.] | 1813.5330 |
1634 | | 1814.8942 | [Mm-hm.] Another rain storm we had. It had rained for like a week. | 1817.7374 |
1635 | PRV_int_01 | 1817.9662 | Hm. | 1818.1934 |
1636 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1818.3449 | And water had um- had | 1820.1010 |
1638 | | 1820.3424 | rose quite a bit. | 1821.1943 |
1639 | PRV_int_01 | 1821.3818 | Wow. | 1821.7131 |
1640 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1822.1533 | And that's when the town started seeing a lot of phone calls | 1824.1650 |
1641 | PRV_int_01 | 1824.3828 | Yeah. | 1824.6526 |
1642 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1824.6857 | cause you could see going /up the river/ | 1826.2904 |
1644 | | 1826.4702 | that highway /jutted/ from the uh, | 1827.9356 |
1646 | | 1828.1675 | railroad track [how] high it's getting and [it was] pretty high. | 1830.5863 |
1647 | PRV_int_01 | 1828.8160 | [Yeah.] | 1829.1284 |
1649 | | 1829.8384 | [Mm.] | 1830.0562 |
1650 | | 1830.6431 | Mm. | 1830.9177 |
1651 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1831.1259 | You know? And uh, | 1831.9022 |
1653 | | 1832.2525 | and even now when the river just rise | 1833.7794 |
1655 | | 1833.9593 | period now we get phone calls. | 1835.1758 |
1656 | PRV_int_01 | 1835.2231 | Really? | 1835.4834 |
1657 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1835.6728 | You know, is it gonna [flood? Or is everything] alright? [Really, you know], it's just, you know, people just now panic when it- when it rain now period. | 1841.8195 |
1658 | PRV_int_01 | 1836.8325 | [<laugh>] | 1837.4762 |
1660 | | 1838.0868 | [<laugh>] | 1838.6359 |
1661 | | 1841.8195 | I bet. | 1842.1840 |
1662 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1842.4159 | [You know.] | 1842.9082 |
1663 | PRV_int_01 | 1842.4207 | [I bet.] | 1842.9508 |
1664 | | 1843.2443 | I bet. | 1843.6277 |
1665 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1843.6182 | I don't think some people will mentally ever get over that. | 1846.1013 |
1666 | PRV_int_01 | 1846.2859 | Really? Sure [sure.] | 1847.3225 |
1667 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1847.0196 | [You know], I don't think they will. | 1848.2834 |
1668 | | 1848.6479 | Yeah. | 1849.0455 |
1669 | PRV_int_01 | 1849.7791 | How has the town been recovering since- since then? | 1852.5983 |
1670 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1853.2657 | It's been recovering | 1854.3923 |
1672 | | 1854.5627 | actually faster than I thought. | 1856.0016 |
1673 | PRV_int_01 | 1856.0111 | Really? | 1856.3188 |
1674 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1856.8205 | Cause I'm sort of surprised to see that many people come back | 1859.6538 |
1676 | | 1859.8479 | [so soon.] | 1860.4633 |
1677 | PRV_int_01 | 1859.8905 | [Yeah.] | 1860.1698 |
1678 | | 1860.6810 | Yeah. | 1860.9413 |
1679 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1861.1165 | I rode through there after the flood when they allowed the public to come through? | 1864.2575 |
1680 | PRV_int_01 | 1864.3095 | Mm. | 1864.5699 |
1681 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1864.7734 | And um, | 1865.4598 |
1683 | | 1865.8100 | and it's- it look- | 1866.8419 |
1685 | | 1866.9697 | it just look like a ghost town. | 1868.2809 |
1686 | PRV_int_01 | 1868.3708 | Mm. | 1868.7022 |
1687 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1868.9889 | You know, I mean when you see houses sitting in the highway, | 1871.3922 |
1689 | | 1871.9284 | you know, that water pushed in the highway [and everything], the houses just tore all to pieces, just | 1875.7463 |
1690 | PRV_int_01 | 1873.5709 | [Mm.] | 1873.7839 |
1691 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1876.1912 | yesterday, just didn't look like that and today it's just like, | 1878.7899 |
1693 | | 1878.9508 | you know, a- a- something out of a horror movie. | 1880.6150 |
1694 | PRV_int_01 | 1880.7712 | Mm-hm. [Yeah.] | 1881.6705 |
1695 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1881.5191 | [You] know, when it- when everything like that, so you could ride through here on a boat and practically touch the stop- the stop light with your hand, that's [how high] it [was.] | 1888.3812 |
1696 | PRV_int_01 | 1887.3392 | [Mm.] | 1887.7557 |
1698 | | 1887.9924 | [Wow.] | 1888.3427 |
1699 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1888.6787 | And now I think it got probably | 1890.3686 |
1701 | | 1890.9555 | a foot from being completely to the ceiling inside the fire station. | 1893.7652 |
1702 | PRV_int_01 | 1893.7699 | Mm. | 1894.1391 |
1703 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1894.4373 | You know. | 1894.9012 |
1704 | misc | 1895.0423 | /inaudible/ (whispered) | 1896.4224 |
1705 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1896.6905 | Pretty much, wont it? | 1897.4667 |
1706 | misc | 1897.6655 | /inaudible/ | 1897.9969 |
1708 | | 1898.3357 | /inaudible/ | 1899.3534 |
1710 | | 1899.6895 | /inaudible/ | 1900.1439 |
1711 | PRV_int_01 | 1900.5651 | Hm, this [building here was submerged?] | 1902.2266 |
1712 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1901.2894 | [We just about- Yeah.] As a matter of fact, cause I saw the pictures and it was | 1904.1957 |
1713 | | 1904.3898 | probably about that much from being from the roof. | 1906.0208 |
1714 | PRV_int_01 | 1906.2291 | [So they were able to-] | 1907.2894 |
1715 | misc | 1906.3332 | [/Inaudible/] | 1907.6586 |
1716 | | 1907.9520 | Yeah /eighty one/ outside. | 1909.4762 |
1717 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1909.6040 | Yeah. | 1909.8691 |
1718 | PRV_int_01 | 1910.2762 | So they restored this building [here?] | 1911.8457 |
1719 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1911.6611 | [Oh yeah] it's been [redone.] | 1912.3001 |
1720 | PRV_int_01 | 1912.0871 | [Oh] o- okay. | 1912.9202 |
1721 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1913.1474 | [Uh-] | 1913.5213 |
1722 | PRV_int_01 | 1913.1474 | [Okay.] | 1913.5308 |
1723 | | 1914.2692 | Cause I know a lot of the places look- | 1915.6892 |
1725 | | 1915.9401 | look new. | 1916.4844 |
1726 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1916.7286 | [Oh yeah. <laugh>] | 1917.7226 |
1727 | PRV_int_01 | 1916.7286 | [Like they had to replace it.] | 1917.7841 |
1728 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1918.0918 | Yeah, I think uh- there was no house to save in Princeville, so whatever you see is either been remodeled or been replaced. [I mean], it's not- | 1924.4515 |
1729 | PRV_int_01 | 1923.7368 | [Mm-hm.] | 1924.1107 |
1730 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1924.6077 | there was nothing livable- | 1925.7438 |
1732 | | 1926.0609 | [in livable] condition in this town after the flood washed away, oh it was nasty. | 1929.0430 |
1733 | PRV_int_01 | 1926.0751 | [Yeah.] | 1926.3639 |
1734 | | 1929.3913 | Yeah. | 1929.7368 |
1735 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1929.9214 | Yeah. | 1930.2243 |
1736 | PRV_int_01 | 1930.5699 | Alright. | 1930.9060 |
1737 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1931.2231 | /Let me open it for you./ | 1932.2029 |
1738 | PRV_int_01 | 1933.5567 | So there was a- I'm sure there was like a water line at some- | 1936.5746 |
1740 | | 1936.8444 | kind of mark where you could see | 1938.1054 |
1741 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1938.1130 | Yeah. | 1938.4822 |
1742 | PRV_int_01 | 1938.4396 | after [the flood?] | 1939.4809 |
1743 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1938.8609 | [Oh yeah.] You can see it- you can still see it on the old town hall now. | 1942.0492 |
1744 | PRV_int_01 | 1942.0303 | Yeah. | 1942.3474 |
1745 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1942.3616 | You know, so it was- it was just | 1943.7627 |
1747 | | 1944.4443 | amazing. You can see it pretty high, no doubt about that. | 1947.0416 |
1748 | PRV_int_01 | 1947.3865 | Okay. | 1947.7415 |
1749 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1948.0066 | So. | 1948.3379 |
1750 | PRV_int_01 | 1948.8397 | But you say it's been- | 1949.8195 |
1752 | | 1950.3307 | been doing pretty well in terms of [rebuilding?] | 1952.1815 |
1753 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1951.4573 | [Oh yeah, they on] the rise now. /??/ looking forward now to even bringing in more businesses now | 1956.5295 |
1754 | PRV_int_01 | 1956.5011 | [Okay.] | 1957.0171 |
1755 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1956.7425 | [so] you know it's- it's on the rise. | 1958.3898 |
1756 | | 1958.6264 | So we just | 1959.2500 |
1758 | | 1959.4907 | hope there's only one way and that's up for the town of Princeville. | 1962.3591 |
1759 | PRV_int_01 | 1962.5059 | [Okay.] | 1962.9792 |
1760 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1962.6715 | [We just] have to hope that. | 1963.7744 |
1761 | | 1964.3614 | You know. | 1964.7353 |
1763 | | 1965.2540 | We hope that it be true. | 1966.3143 |
1764 | PRV_int_01 | 1966.4610 | Yeah. | 1966.8586 |
1765 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1966.8728 | Yeah. | 1967.3225 |
1766 | PRV_int_01 | 1968.0467 | What are some of the- some of the ways that | 1969.7791 |
1768 | | 1970.5886 | you can kind of see it's | 1971.5664 |
1770 | | 1971.8031 | kind of coming back? | 1972.8018 |
1771 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1973.1379 | Um, | 1973.7106 |
1773 | | 1974.6289 | well with the | 1975.7271 |
1775 | | 1976.0300 | neighborhood that was flooded | 1977.4007 |
1777 | | 1977.9072 | uh, think most of all those residents | 1980.2218 |
1779 | | 1981.6371 | are back- | 1982.1768 |
1781 | | 1982.3093 | are /new/. | 1982.9625 |
1782 | PRV_int_01 | 1983.1593 | Sure. | 1983.4481 |
1783 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1983.5995 | You know, cause I don't think we- they didn't enter into the buyout program [to decide] to come back. So either | 1987.8359 |
1784 | PRV_int_01 | 1986.2076 | [Mm.] | 1986.4538 |
1785 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1988.2762 | it's either your house or someone bought the house | 1990.3805 |
1787 | | 1990.7829 | and someone- and something else /you did/ on the- on the lot in ninety days, so | 1993.8888 |
1788 | PRV_int_01 | 1993.8786 | Hm. | 1994.2052 |
1789 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1994.3188 | um, | 1994.6264 |
1791 | | 1995.1120 | actually look like the flood | 1996.4894 |
1793 | | 1996.7024 | basically never happened. | 1997.6302 |
1794 | PRV_int_01 | 1997.7154 | Really? | 1998.0372 |
1795 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 1998.3875 | And [you know when you look] around, look like a new town. | 2000.2884 |
1796 | PRV_int_01 | 1998.6242 | [Yeah.] | 1998.9224 |
1797 | | 2000.2904 | Yeah. | 2000.5879 |
1798 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2000.8611 | You know, so you ain't look like the flood just never happened. | 2003.5734 |
1799 | PRV_int_01 | 2003.7627 | Mm-hm. | 2004.1357 |
1800 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2004.2029 | You know, so. But you know it did. | 2005.8644 |
1801 | PRV_int_01 | 2006.0584 | [Yeah.] | 2006.3756 |
1802 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2006.1389 | [But] after so much new stuff around here like just a new | 2008.9959 |
1803 | | 2009.2894 | settlement. | 2009.6633 |
1805 | | 2009.8479 | Like a new development. | 2010.7993 |
1806 | PRV_int_01 | 2010.7615 | [Mm.] | 2011.0739 |
1807 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2010.9319 | [/??/] the new apartment building looks | 2012.4560 |
1808 | | 2012.7617 | beautiful. | 2013.2256 |
1809 | PRV_int_01 | 2013.5475 | [Yeah.] | 2013.8835 |
1810 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2013.5806 | [You know] so it's just like, | 2014.9344 |
1811 | | 2016.0088 | everything you need. | 2016.6857 |
1812 | PRV_int_01 | 2016.8656 | Yeah. | 2017.1922 |
1813 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2017.1591 | Someone now growing up would not even think of being- | 2019.7273 |
1814 | | 2019.9309 | uh, seeing /it/ this town actually like it looked. | 2022.2171 |
1815 | PRV_int_01 | 2022.3875 | Mm-hm-hm. | 2022.7899 |
1816 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2022.7236 | You know, cause so everything is just so new. | 2024.4869 |
1817 | | 2024.7164 | And some of the businesses that wanted to come | 2026.3379 |
1819 | | 2026.6645 | that was here before the flood, | 2027.9615 |
1821 | | 2028.3970 | uh, either they came back or someone now taking their place | 2031.3297 |
1822 | PRV_int_01 | 2031.5143 | [Okay.] | 2031.8551 |
1823 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2031.5569 | [in those] buildings, [so] | 2032.7166 |
1824 | PRV_int_01 | 2032.3332 | [Okay.] | 2032.8492 |
1825 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2032.8728 | everything is back operation. | 2034.1556 |
1826 | PRV_int_01 | 2034.1982 | Wow. | 2034.4585 |
1828 | | 2034.9177 | [Okay.] | 2035.2916 |
1829 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2035.0549 | [Yeah.] | 2035.2632 |
1830 | | 2035.5283 | Everything is back to normal. | 2036.6454 |
1831 | PRV_int_01 | 2038.2811 | And why- why do you think that is? How- | 2039.8242 |
1833 | | 2040.0751 | why do you [think it-] | 2040.7615 |
1834 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2040.4538 | [That's a] good question. [<laugh>] | 2042.2809 |
1835 | PRV_int_01 | 2041.4857 | [<laugh>] | 2042.1484 |
1836 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2042.6974 | I think | 2043.2500 |
1838 | | 2043.4149 | one of the things that | 2044.4326 |
1840 | | 2044.5888 | you know, is if- | 2045.3888 |
1842 | | 2046.0420 | uh, | 2046.6005 |
1844 | | 2047.1780 | when people had to- sometime hate to drive all the way across town | 2049.7844 |
1845 | PRV_int_01 | 2049.7463 | Mm. | 2050.0445 |
1846 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2050.1770 | just to get a soda. | 2051.1568 |
1847 | PRV_int_01 | 2051.5402 | Right. | 2051.8242 |
1848 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2051.7864 | Uh, if they put a business over here, | 2053.5283 |
1849 | | 2053.7697 | you know, maybe we can drive there | 2055.2500 |
1850 | PRV_int_01 | 2055.3960 | [Mm.] | 2055.6611 |
1851 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2055.4197 | [and get] that soda. | 2056.1533 |
1852 | PRV_int_01 | 2056.3048 | [Mm-hm.] | 2056.7024 |
1853 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2056.5178 | [You] know, so uh, that have a lot to do with it. [You know], if you- if you're closer, | 2059.9874 |
1854 | PRV_int_01 | 2058.4964 | [Sure.] | 2058.8467 |
1855 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2060.1862 | I'm just gonna stop here. | 2060.9909 |
1856 | PRV_int_01 | 2061.1498 | Yeah. | 2061.4954 |
1857 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2061.5711 | You know, so that has helped a lot. | 2062.9864 |
1858 | PRV_int_01 | 2063.1568 | [Mm-hm.] | 2063.5166 |
1859 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2063.1663 | [You know] and then people just | 2064.2311 |
1860 | | 2064.4538 | got used to going to this location and those same people are still returning | 2068.4941 |
1861 | PRV_int_01 | 2068.6267 | Mm-hm. | 2069.0101 |
1862 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2069.0669 | to those same stores. | 2070.0609 |
1863 | PRV_int_01 | 2070.1366 | Mm-hm. | 2070.6431 |
1864 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2070.7094 | You know, so that's- that's the main thing. Just | 2073.0288 |
1866 | | 2073.3629 | closer, just quick access. | 2074.8255 |
1867 | PRV_int_01 | 2074.9154 | Mm-hm. | 2075.3746 |
1868 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2075.6538 | You know, I think that would be the key. | 2077.0975 |
1869 | PRV_int_01 | 2077.2916 | Sure. | 2077.6834 |
1870 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2077.6608 | You know just quick access. | 2078.9909 |
1871 | PRV_int_01 | 2080.1439 | Why- i- do- why- | 2081.0432 |
1873 | | 2081.2752 | d- I mean, | 2082.0846 |
1875 | | 2082.5721 | obviously | 2083.1591 |
1877 | | 2084.2052 | people could have chosen to just kind of | 2086.0871 |
1878 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2086.6314 | [Yeah.] | 2087.0101 |
1879 | PRV_int_01 | 2086.7261 | [not] move back. | 2087.7580 |
1880 | | 2088.1319 | But uh- you say everyb- you know, a lot of people decided- | 2090.9388 |
1882 | | 2091.2161 | almost, what? | 2091.9403 |
1884 | | 2092.1013 | How many people- Is it close to where it was? The [population?] | 2095.3626 |
1885 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2094.5343 | [It is] back to close to where it [was.] I think we've had uh, think last night found out it was | 2099.1095 |
1886 | PRV_int_01 | 2096.2221 | [Yeah.] | 2096.5061 |
1887 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2099.8100 | little over two thousand now, [about twenty] two hundred /??/ and it had like twenty five or twenty eight. | 2105.0101 |
1888 | PRV_int_01 | 2101.4667 | [Wow.] | 2101.8880 |
1889 | | 2105.3036 | Oh wow. | 2105.7485 |
1890 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2105.7248 | You know, so it's not far away | 2107.1212 |
1891 | PRV_int_01 | 2107.2111 | Sure. | 2107.5046 |
1892 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2107.4241 | you know, from after being /a hundred since/. | 2109.7699 |
1893 | | 2110.3237 | And so that's- that's great. | 2111.6775 |
1894 | PRV_int_01 | 2111.7722 | Yeah. | 2112.0514 |
1895 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2112.0467 | You know, that's great. I mean that's- that's shocking though. | 2114.3140 |
1896 | PRV_int_01 | 2114.3472 | Yeah. | 2114.6454 |
1897 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2114.7380 | In- in | 2115.4386 |
1899 | | 2117.0054 | two years. | 2117.5970 |
1900 | PRV_int_01 | 2118.0420 | Yeah. | 2118.3544 |
1901 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2118.3402 | You know, [that's] shocking. I- I think a lot of 'em- | 2120.6359 |
1902 | PRV_int_01 | 2118.6763 | [Yeah.] | 2118.9508 |
1903 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2120.9842 | well for one thing so many people own their own property over here. | 2123.3144 |
1904 | PRV_int_01 | 2123.3320 | Mm-hm. | 2123.6538 |
1905 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2123.6207 | And they- and they just rather rebuild on their own property help cut down cost. | 2127.1850 |
1906 | PRV_int_01 | 2127.2919 | Mm-hm. | 2127.6847 |
1907 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2127.6469 | Uh, Tarboro don't have it so much land [for you to go] to and a lot just 'em didn't wanna leave. | 2131.3957 |
1908 | PRV_int_01 | 2129.5118 | [Yeah.] | 2129.8716 |
1909 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2131.7318 | I hear a lot of people say well call the job, you know, closer to their job, they didn't wanna go to another town, [so] | 2136.6147 |
1910 | PRV_int_01 | 2136.0846 | [Mm-hm.] | 2136.5958 |
1911 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2136.9650 | you know, it was just convenient. It's just convenient | 2138.8489 |
1912 | PRV_int_01 | 2138.9512 | [Really?] | 2139.3013 |
1913 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2139.1498 | [for] a lot of people right now. Somebody been on their job for ten years | 2141.6775 |
1914 | | 2142.0609 | won't move in- into another town, and drive back | 2143.9922 |
1916 | | 2144.1768 | here Tarboro to their job. | 2145.4528 |
1917 | PRV_int_01 | 2145.4433 | Okay. | 2145.7747 |
1918 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2145.7699 | You know, they just wont gonna do that. | 2146.8018 |
1919 | PRV_int_01 | 2146.9912 | Okay. | 2147.3982 |
1920 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2147.4976 | Uh. | 2147.9094 |
1921 | PRV_int_01 | 2149.1969 | Even if | 2149.7602 |
1923 | | 2149.8880 | they weren't sure they was gonna be- | 2151.2114 |
1924 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2151.3960 | Yeah, | 2151.7747 |
1926 | | 2151.9735 | you know, the risk will still be [there], but it just | 2154.2834 |
1927 | PRV_int_01 | 2153.3509 | [Yeah.] | 2153.5970 |
1928 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2155.2585 | old /conveniency/. [You know, that's] all it was. You know, just more convenient for me to come back home. | 2159.2941 |
1929 | PRV_int_01 | 2156.2458 | [Yeah.] | 2156.5960 |
1930 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2159.5213 | [<laugh> You know-] Yeah, it- yeah. | 2161.6703 |
1931 | PRV_int_01 | 2160.0704 | [Yeah, roots.] | 2160.9319 |
1933 | | 2161.4667 | [Root- | 2161.7697 |
1934 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2161.8786 | [Just come back-] Yep, your roots is here and what then, | 2164.3001 |
1935 | PRV_int_01 | 2161.9685 | [your roots.] | 2162.5412 |
1936 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2164.8776 | I don't think a lot of people r- that's in this town realize the roots that this town really | 2169.0288 |
1938 | | 2169.3061 | has. | 2169.6847 |
1939 | PRV_int_01 | 2169.6185 | Yeah. | 2169.9687 |
1940 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2170.4894 | You know, [I mean] to be a part of town of this age, | 2173.2774 |
1941 | PRV_int_01 | 2170.8397 | [Yeah.] | 2171.1758 |
1942 | | 2173.2916 | Mm-hm. | 2173.7176 |
1943 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2173.8123 | you know, [and-] and it's- it's really, | 2176.1107 |
1944 | PRV_int_01 | 2174.4493 | [Yeah.] | 2174.7380 |
1945 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2176.3616 | to me, an honor | 2177.1900 |
1946 | PRV_int_01 | 2177.4124 | Sure. | 2177.8574 |
1947 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2177.9615 | you know, [to] be a part of that. And I- and I would guarantee you most people- Now these guys, their age know that, [but] | 2183.4976 |
1948 | PRV_int_01 | 2178.4349 | [Yeah.] | 2178.6857 |
1950 | | 2183.1805 | [Yeah.] | 2183.5071 |
1951 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2183.8763 | I guarantee you younger guys, the teenagers, | 2185.9306 |
1952 | PRV_int_01 | 2186.1673 | Yeah. | 2186.4134 |
1953 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2186.4134 | don't real appreciate the roots and the history that the town has /?/ left behind, | 2190.4775 |
1954 | PRV_int_01 | 2190.4964 | Yeah. | 2190.7425 |
1955 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2190.7236 | for them to have this piece of land, to know that slaves wanted to live here. | 2193.8125 |
1956 | PRV_int_01 | 2193.9119 | You're right. | 2194.3190 |
1957 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2194.4847 | You know, and [they don't-] they don't know that. | 2195.9331 |
1958 | PRV_int_01 | 2194.8870 | [Yeah.] | 2195.2266 |
1959 | | 2195.9568 | Yeah. | 2196.2881 |
1960 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2196.4254 | You know, or the know it and don't appreciate it | 2198.2856 |
1962 | | 2198.6122 | mentally like we do. | 2199.6279 |
1963 | PRV_int_01 | 2199.8220 | Sure. | 2200.1439 |
1964 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2200.2385 | You know, they don't- they don't do that. All they /looking at/ is | 2202.1272 |
1966 | | 2202.5485 | football game Friday night, [you know (laughing). <laugh>] You know, I got a- uh, a date but they don't- | 2207.8100 |
1967 | PRV_int_01 | 2203.7365 | [Right right right.] | 2204.9578 |
1968 | | 2207.8621 | Yeah. | 2208.1508 |
1969 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2208.1556 | they don't know that. | 2208.7615 |
1970 | PRV_int_01 | 2208.9839 | And maybe uh, they- they- | 2210.4182 |
1972 | | 2210.9747 | as they get a little bit older, they [/?/-] | 2212.3379 |
1973 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2211.9687 | [Then they'll] probably look back on it same as we do cause nowadays you know, younger people have that | 2216.1152 |
1974 | | 2216.6312 | uh, different type mind than- | 2217.9261 |
1976 | | 2218.0918 | than- than- | 2218.8255 |
1978 | | 2219.1474 | the older [generation at that] time, you know, /unintelligible/. | 2221.7697 |
1979 | PRV_int_01 | 2219.9189 | [Sure.] | 2220.4112 |
1980 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2222.2931 | But um, | 2222.7901 |
1982 | | 2223.0362 | you know, that just- | 2223.7605 |
1984 | | 2223.9119 | that's true. | 2224.4089 |
1986 | | 2224.6219 | And I'm beginning to now | 2225.7343 |
1988 | | 2226.5106 | soak in the fact that | 2227.8833 |
1990 | | 2228.2383 | you know, the oldest black town chartered by American is- | 2230.9912 |
1991 | PRV_int_01 | 2231.1190 | Mm. | 2231.3651 |
1992 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2231.4787 | it's- it- | 2231.9994 |
1994 | | 2232.3591 | when you have the /faith/ that's- that's amazing. | 2234.0158 |
1995 | PRV_int_01 | 2234.0632 | [Mm-hm.] | 2234.4466 |
1996 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2234.2762 | [You know] to- to be here and be a part of that is actually amazing. | 2237.5970 |
1997 | PRV_int_01 | 2237.6160 | Yeah. | 2237.8810 |
1998 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2238.1224 | You know? | 2238.5343 |
2000 | | 2239.1543 | Uh, so maybe someone will wanna come through here as a tour site. | 2241.9573 |
2002 | | 2242.1155 | And that's what they're working on is you know, make it so that people wanna come see this town. | 2245.4951 |
2003 | PRV_int_01 | 2245.5661 | Yeah. | 2245.9259 |
2004 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2246.0111 | You know, to know that so, I think | 2247.9013 |
2006 | | 2248.3663 | uh, | 2248.7782 |
2008 | | 2249.1190 | it's possible | 2249.9047 |
2010 | | 2250.1272 | you know, /as many/ | 2250.8277 |
2012 | | 2251.1543 | you know, | 2251.6371 |
2014 | | 2252.7069 | Black Americans /ought to- should/ at least ride [through at some] point in time one day to just say they- they've been here. | 2258.0300 |
2015 | PRV_int_01 | 2255.1710 | [Sure.] | 2255.5355 |
2016 | | 2258.0442 | Yeah. | 2258.2856 |
2017 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2258.5203 | You know, cause there's a lot a lot of roots here. | 2260.2764 |
2018 | PRV_int_01 | 2260.3427 | Mm-hm. | 2260.7119 |
2019 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2260.8539 | You know. | 2261.3509 |
2021 | | 2261.8384 | /I say/ | 2262.4301 |
2023 | | 2262.9745 | hope that they'll- they'll do that. | 2264.1200 |
2024 | PRV_int_01 | 2264.4134 | Yeah. | 2264.6785 |
2026 | | 2265.5948 | When did you | 2266.3143 |
2028 | | 2266.4326 | become aware- you said, you know, being younger probably didn't | 2269.2064 |
2030 | | 2269.6750 | really appreciate it. When did you | 2271.1735 |
2032 | | 2271.5995 | start to appreciate the- | 2272.8302 |
2033 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2273.5260 | <laugh> | 2273.9331 |
2035 | | 2274.5721 | Actually probably when I was- | 2276.1673 |
2037 | | 2277.0220 | I would say thirty. | 2277.8788 |
2038 | PRV_int_01 | 2278.1107 | Okay. | 2278.4989 |
2039 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2278.4326 | I started to- | 2279.0764 |
2040 | | 2279.4503 | to realize then that at- | 2280.9719 |
2042 | | 2281.3957 | when you're on your own you start looking back into | 2283.3723 |
2044 | | 2283.5001 | the- the days now saying, you know, well, uh, yeah, I start hearing this about what the town is | 2287.7933 |
2046 | | 2288.2951 | this and town is oldest this and that and [started] saying, what do you mean the oldest? Cause I didn't know that. [You know], so if you're the oldest | 2293.8028 |
2047 | PRV_int_01 | 2290.3805 | [Yeah.] | 2290.6267 |
2049 | | 2292.5627 | [Mm-hm.] | 2292.8893 |
2050 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2294.2572 | town, this and that, you [know, you gotta] think about everything you do | 2297.2700 |
2051 | PRV_int_01 | 2295.5001 | [Mm.] | 2295.7605 |
2052 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2297.7864 | uh, is pretty much the first. | 2299.1543 |
2053 | PRV_int_01 | 2299.3579 | Right. | 2299.7933 |
2054 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2299.8359 | You know, so the first | 2300.7522 |
2056 | | 2301.2114 | fire chief or the first police chief is the very first one of the oldest town in the- [<laugh> you know (laughing) so] you just, you know, I won't be the first anything, but /you're asked/ to be a part of [that-] | 2309.9804 |
2057 | PRV_int_01 | 2304.8561 | [Right. Right. Right.] | 2306.2430 |
2059 | | 2309.8952 | [Oh] yeah. | 2310.2644 |
2060 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2310.2692 | that history will be- | 2311.1733 |
2062 | | 2311.4951 | is- is- is an honor. | 2312.5081 |
2063 | PRV_int_01 | 2312.6102 | Yeah. | 2312.9368 |
2064 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2313.0126 | You know, to me, it- it- it's great. | 2314.6108 |
2066 | | 2314.9959 | You know, and I think it should be | 2316.0562 |
2068 | | 2316.3260 | an honor to anyone | 2317.3247 |
2070 | | 2317.5188 | to be a part of a town with that kind of history behind it, whether it was | 2320.5462 |
2072 | | 2320.9770 | black or white or whatever, it should be- it's- it's good to be a part of | 2323.8738 |
2073 | PRV_int_01 | 2323.9117 | Mm-hm. [Yeah.] | 2324.4655 |
2074 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2324.2856 | [something] to that- [to that] level. | 2325.7747 |
2075 | PRV_int_01 | 2324.9794 | [Mm.] | 2325.2871 |
2077 | | 2325.7557 | Yeah. | 2326.1013 |
2078 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2326.4705 | You know. | 2326.8160 |
2079 | PRV_int_01 | 2328.2786 | You said ev- everything you do has some- | 2330.5507 |
2080 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2330.8469 | Oh yeah. [Yeah, it's some- some sort of] | 2332.9438 |
2081 | PRV_int_01 | 2331.2114 | [some- something a little more special to it.] [Yeah.] | 2333.4172 |
2082 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2333.1474 | [specialty] to it because it's the oldest [and the] first. | 2335.8833 |
2083 | PRV_int_01 | 2335.2443 | [Yeah.] | 2335.5141 |
2084 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2336.3756 | You know, just like | 2337.3155 |
2086 | | 2337.5569 | you can take a movie star /that's/ from Princeville and you won't look at 'em the same when they come back to Princeville as you would if you take somebody from another state. | 2344.6975 |
2087 | PRV_int_01 | 2344.6409 | Yeah. | 2344.9438 |
2088 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2344.9864 | And I don't know if that's mental or [what] but | 2346.9366 |
2089 | PRV_int_01 | 2346.3307 | [Right.] | 2346.6195 |
2090 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2347.3721 | um, if I weren't from Princeville and visit here I'll be | 2350.2101 |
2092 | | 2350.5415 | more appreciative that fact that | 2352.1934 |
2094 | | 2352.6203 | I'm here in the- in the oldest town in America- | 2354.7590 |
2095 | PRV_int_01 | 2354.8063 | Y- [Right.] | 2355.2500 |
2096 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2354.9700 | [black] town and so you know but | 2356.3521 |
2097 | | 2356.5225 | to know that now I grew up in this area and [I'm part] of this area now I appreciate it even more. | 2360.3850 |
2098 | PRV_int_01 | 2358.4396 | [Hm.] | 2358.6715 |
2099 | | 2360.5365 | Sure. | 2360.8726 |
2100 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2361.0646 | You know, I appreciate it more. | 2362.1486 |
2101 | PRV_int_01 | 2362.3853 | Yeah. | 2362.6787 |
2102 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2362.6030 | And that's why I kind of wanted you to speak to some of the older guys | 2365.2443 |
2103 | PRV_int_01 | 2365.3673 | Sure. | 2365.7507 |
2104 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2365.6703 | while they were still young. | 2366.5980 |
2105 | PRV_int_01 | 2366.6244 | [<laugh>] | 2368.3427 |
2106 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2366.9889 | [You know? <laugh>] | 2368.6361 |
2107 | misc | 2368.7498 | [/inaudible/] | 2369.7390 |
2108 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2368.8539 | [<laugh> While /Milton's/ still young.] | 2370.1556 |
2109 | PRV_int_01 | 2369.6917 | [Yeah.] | 2370.0940 |
2110 | misc | 2370.4585 | How you gonna do that? | 2371.1354 |
2111 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2371.1827 | [<laugh>] | 2372.9104 |
2112 | PRV_int_01 | 2371.1875 | [<laugh>] | 2372.9483 |
2113 | misc | 2372.1484 | [/inaudible/] | 2373.7226 |
2114 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2373.5238 | [<laugh>] | 2374.4894 |
2115 | PRV_int_01 | 2373.7164 | [<laugh>] | 2374.6318 |
2116 | misc | 2374.8988 | [/inaudible/] | 2375.9662 |
2117 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2374.9675 | [Oh man.] | 2375.7296 |
2118 | PRV_int_01 | 2376.2218 | [Oh] right right. | 2377.1212 |
2119 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2376.3260 | [<laugh>] | 2376.5958 |
2120 | PRV_int_01 | 2377.8359 | Well yeah yeah. So uh, | 2379.6989 |
2121 | misc | 2379.6942 | Okay. | 2379.9829 |
2122 | PRV_int_01 | 2380.7498 | yeah definitely. We wanna talk to everybody and- and- and record the- | 2384.4134 |
2124 | | 2384.8895 | as much as we can | 2385.9829 |
2126 | | 2386.1533 | of the history. | 2386.9486 |
2127 | misc | 2386.9533 | /?/ | 2387.3414 |
2128 | PRV_int_01 | 2387.9426 | Um, | 2388.2929 |
2130 | | 2389.1070 | but you- now you say uh, | 2390.5933 |
2132 | | 2391.2729 | you been here for- | 2392.1817 |
2134 | | 2392.7261 | for | 2393.1237 |
2136 | | 2393.4361 | about- let's say | 2394.5201 |
2138 | | 2394.8325 | thirty years? | 2395.4194 |
2139 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2395.3011 | About thirty [years.] | 2396.0584 |
2140 | PRV_int_01 | 2395.8407 | [About] thirty years? | 2396.6501 |
2141 | | 2397.1925 | Um, | 2397.6185 |
2143 | | 2398.0681 | and uh, you seen the flood and uh, | 2400.7288 |
2145 | | 2401.3531 | a lot of different things happening in Princeville? | 2403.3723 |
2146 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2403.7652 | Uh, | 2404.1249 |
2148 | | 2404.2669 | yeah. | 2404.6503 |
2150 | | 2404.7971 | [<laugh>] | 2405.1095 |
2151 | PRV_int_01 | 2404.8302 | [<laugh>] | 2405.1379 |
2152 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2405.3982 | Government wise. <laugh> | 2407.0549 |
2154 | | 2407.4147 | I seen some good days and some- [and some] tough days. [I won't-] I won't use the word bad, I just say | 2411.7911 |
2155 | PRV_int_01 | 2408.9984 | [Yeah.] | 2409.2871 |
2157 | | 2409.8551 | [Yeah.] | 2410.1912 |
2158 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2411.9946 | tough days. | 2412.6668 |
2159 | PRV_int_01 | 2412.6479 | Okay. | 2413.0975 |
2160 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2413.0975 | Uh, so uh, seen 'em come through | 2415.1897 |
2161 | | 2415.5617 | some- some dark cloud. | 2416.9154 |
2162 | PRV_int_01 | 2417.0527 | Yeah. | 2417.3462 |
2163 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2417.3651 | You know, I- I seen some times when you think the town is really going | 2420.5696 |
2165 | | 2420.9558 | under, | 2421.4670 |
2166 | PRV_int_01 | 2421.7273 | Yeah. | 2421.9829 |
2167 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2422.1107 | you know, came out. | 2423.0196 |
2168 | PRV_int_01 | 2423.1852 | Yeah. | 2423.4645 |
2169 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2423.4882 | You know, and- and with flying colors. | 2424.9934 |
2170 | PRV_int_01 | 2425.0786 | Okay. | 2425.5283 |
2171 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2425.4904 | And I wanna continue to see that | 2426.8158 |
2172 | | 2426.9558 | [you know], um- | 2427.8930 |
2173 | PRV_int_01 | 2426.9889 | [Yeah.] | 2427.2966 |
2174 | | 2428.2527 | Like [uh-] | 2428.7592 |
2175 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2428.3853 | [/?/] | 2428.7071 |
2176 | PRV_int_01 | 2429.0811 | like- like what- what times are you [referring to?] | 2431.5669 |
2177 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2431.2301 | [Uh], I remember probably | 2433.2019 |
2178 | | 2433.8031 | about | 2434.5131 |
2180 | | 2437.1259 | eight to nine years ago when- How long it been since /RD-NAME-2/ | 2439.7226 |
2182 | | 2440.1060 | been gone? | 2440.5367 |
2183 | misc | 2441.4284 | It hasn't been that long. | 2442.3733 |
2185 | | 2442.8041 | Five- | 2443.2064 |
2186 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2443.1733 | Five years? | 2443.7460 |
2187 | misc | 2443.3957 | [/Round/ about five years. | 2444.4844 |
2188 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2444.4304 | About five years the town was really really | 2446.5699 |
2189 | | 2447.0764 | in a financial bind | 2448.1887 |
2190 | PRV_int_01 | 2448.2550 | Really? | 2448.5201 |
2191 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2448.5343 | and uh, | 2449.1354 |
2193 | | 2449.7129 | in my opinion it was sort of under some | 2451.7557 |
2195 | | 2452.4326 | very very poor management. | 2454.0230 |
2196 | PRV_int_01 | 2454.2786 | Mm-hm. | 2454.6763 |
2197 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2454.8041 | And uh, | 2455.4383 |
2199 | | 2455.6939 | sort of | 2456.2383 |
2201 | | 2457.4102 | had everybody concerned, | 2458.3970 |
2202 | PRV_int_01 | 2458.5320 | Yeah. | 2458.7924 |
2203 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2459.0243 | you know, and luckily the state did even- have to come in and step in to help with get the town back on track but | 2464.2859 |
2205 | | 2464.7876 | um, | 2465.2941 |
2207 | | 2465.4976 | you know, we don't wanna see that. | 2466.5674 |
2208 | PRV_int_01 | 2466.8325 | [Mkay.] | 2467.1969 |
2209 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2467.0265 | [You know], we wanna be able to run our own [town and] handle our own business like [that.] | 2470.4279 |
2210 | PRV_int_01 | 2468.7096 | [Sure.] | 2469.0504 |
2212 | | 2470.1060 | [Mm-hm.] | 2470.4326 |
2213 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2470.6551 | Accept the money from the state, | 2471.9520 |
2214 | PRV_int_01 | 2472.2408 | Right. | 2472.5248 |
2215 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2472.4254 | you know, but let us | 2473.1875 |
2216 | | 2473.3910 | spend our own money (laughing). | 2474.5128 |
2218 | | 2474.8753 | So we wanna- we wanna see that and | 2476.8870 |
2220 | | 2477.1048 | uh, | 2477.5355 |
2222 | | 2477.7485 | we- so we- we're there now. | 2479.4099 |
2223 | PRV_int_01 | 2479.6087 | [Yeah.] | 2479.9212 |
2224 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2479.7744 | [You know] we- we still got some- | 2481.2493 |
2225 | | 2481.8267 | some I guess they say rocky roads or tough bridges to try to cross over now, but it's- it's gonna get there. | 2487.1635 |
2227 | | 2487.3865 | [It- it's] gonna get there. | 2488.5557 |
2228 | PRV_int_01 | 2487.4007 | [Yeah.] | 2487.7605 |
2229 | | 2489.1095 | What uh, what do you remember about that time- those times and- | 2492.1673 |
2230 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2492.2241 | Um, | 2492.7637 |
2232 | | 2493.1025 | well I remember the employees | 2494.3758 |
2234 | | 2494.6219 | quitting, | 2495.0764 |
2236 | | 2495.4456 | um, going on strike because they were- | 2497.0502 |
2238 | | 2497.2064 | they felt they was being treated unfairly [at- on] his administration. | 2500.3474 |
2239 | PRV_int_01 | 2498.8706 | [Really?] | 2499.2635 |
2240 | | 2500.5178 | Okay. | 2500.9082 |
2241 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2500.8776 | Uh, | 2501.3320 |
2242 | | 2501.4834 | I think everyone quit on his administration except for one person. | 2504.7779 |
2243 | PRV_int_01 | 2504.9700 | Really? | 2505.3250 |
2244 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2505.3439 | And that was one of his police officers. [His] fire chief | 2507.4834 |
2245 | PRV_int_01 | 2506.5699 | [Oh.] | 2506.8539 |
2246 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2507.6822 | quit. | 2507.9757 |
2248 | | 2508.4775 | People under him quit. | 2509.5567 |
2249 | PRV_int_01 | 2509.7744 | Oh [really?] | 2510.2146 |
2250 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2510.0348 | [Um], | 2510.5602 |
2251 | | 2511.0836 | the police chief | 2511.6611 |
2253 | | 2512.3521 | quit | 2512.6503 |
2255 | | 2512.8586 | [and all] his staff quit, [except for] one, so. | 2515.2963 |
2256 | PRV_int_01 | 2512.8870 | [Yeah.] | 2513.1237 |
2258 | | 2514.2786 | [Wow.] | 2514.5769 |
2259 | | 2515.3105 | Wow. | 2515.6608 |
2260 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2515.6466 | Um, | 2516.0774 |
2261 | | 2516.3140 | all the- I think every /? one of/ the town employees um, are new | 2519.5402 |
2262 | PRV_int_01 | 2519.9804 | Oh [okay.] | 2520.5769 |
2263 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2520.2171 | [from his administration] though, so. | 2521.8217 |
2264 | | 2522.2667 | Uh, it was just in uh, turmoil. | 2523.7949 |
2265 | PRV_int_01 | 2523.9735 | [Yeah.] | 2524.2149 |
2266 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2523.9971 | [You] know, just people felt like he weren't | 2526.0325 |
2267 | | 2526.4538 | really concerned about the town | 2527.7081 |
2268 | PRV_int_01 | 2527.8075 | Mm-hm. | 2528.2525 |
2269 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2528.2572 | and uh, | 2529.3487 |
2271 | | 2529.5806 | the way that it was being handled and it was- it was sad because the newspaper spoke about it | 2533.4383 |
2272 | PRV_int_01 | 2533.8491 | [Mm.] | 2534.1524 |
2273 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2533.8541 | [and] it seem like Princeville is- is sometime in my opinion, seem like we sort of- | 2537.7845 |
2274 | | 2538.4619 | if there's an inch of negativity, people take it and make /another/ mountain. | 2541.8991 |
2275 | PRV_int_01 | 2541.9243 | Right. | 2542.3186 |
2276 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2542.3034 | You know, so uh, they- they fail to sometime report the positive things that goes on in the town. | 2547.2145 |
2277 | PRV_int_01 | 2547.2903 | Yeah. | 2547.5791 |
2278 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2547.6644 | And I wanna see more positive things reported | 2549.7397 |
2280 | | 2549.9773 | than negative things about Princeville. [Cause there are] some | 2552.3506 |
2281 | PRV_int_01 | 2551.6251 | [Yeah.] | 2552.0194 |
2282 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2553.0151 | positive things in people over here. | 2554.6023 |
2283 | PRV_int_01 | 2554.8652 | Right. | 2555.1432 |
2284 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2555.3504 | You know, [and don't] forget those people. | 2556.9304 |
2285 | PRV_int_01 | 2555.7527 | [Sure.] | 2556.0762 |
2286 | | 2557.0113 | [Okay.] | 2557.3991 |
2287 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2557.2236 | [You know], everybody's not out to | 2558.6591 |
2288 | | 2559.3466 | uh, | 2559.8065 |
2290 | | 2560.3777 | bring the town down or- or- or we out to make sure that whatever bad we can | 2564.5558 |
2292 | | 2564.7422 | /help do/ this, you know, make it better. | 2566.4014 |
2293 | PRV_int_01 | 2566.4261 | Mm-hm. | 2566.8102 |
2294 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2566.8456 | You know, but um, you either wanna be a part of the team, | 2569.3203 |
2296 | | 2569.4669 | or you just wait for the team. | 2570.8721 |
2297 | PRV_int_01 | 2570.8316 | Right. | 2571.2057 |
2298 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2571.1096 | You know, but don't make it worse. | 2572.0498 |
2299 | PRV_int_01 | 2572.1913 | Right. | 2572.5351 |
2300 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2572.5553 | You know, [so that's-] that's my philosophy, you [know], just try to | 2575.5982 |
2301 | PRV_int_01 | 2573.0607 | [Yeah.] | 2573.3185 |
2303 | | 2574.6176 | [Sure.] | 2574.9259 |
2304 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2575.9802 | come in, do whatever I can do to help. | 2577.5421 |
2306 | | 2577.7443 | [Help the] town | 2578.4166 |
2307 | PRV_int_01 | 2577.7544 | [Yeah.] | 2577.9970 |
2308 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2578.5884 | uh, grow. | 2579.0790 |
2309 | PRV_int_01 | 2579.1849 | Yeah. | 2579.5286 |
2310 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2579.6550 | You know, | 2580.0897 |
2312 | | 2580.5800 | so that was a sad day to remember, but um, he was a tough- | 2583.9140 |
2314 | | 2584.2981 | tough character. | 2584.8895 |
2315 | PRV_int_01 | 2585.0311 | Yeah. | 2585.4253 |
2316 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2585.4809 | You know, and eventually they had to come in and uh, remove him | 2588.3802 |
2318 | | 2588.9716 | through uh- through the state | 2590.2100 |
2319 | PRV_int_01 | 2590.2959 | [Yeah.] | 2590.6801 |
2320 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2590.5689 | [and] charge him. | 2591.2664 |
2321 | PRV_int_01 | 2591.7315 | [Wow.] | 2592.2571 |
2322 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2591.7618 | [You know] | 2592.2268 |
2323 | | 2592.4442 | so that's- that's that. | 2593.6734 |
2325 | | 2594.3144 | They say but we- you know, that- that had to happen. | 2596.3645 |
2326 | PRV_int_01 | 2596.5313 | Yeah. | 2596.8902 |
2327 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2596.9862 | You know, but uh, they eventually charged him with some, uh, things that | 2600.1707 |
2329 | | 2600.4082 | he shouldn't have been doing. | 2601.3383 |
2330 | PRV_int_01 | 2601.3817 | Yeah. | 2601.7102 |
2331 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2601.9680 | You know, so we don't wanna cross those bridges. | 2604.0114 |
2332 | PRV_int_01 | 2604.0303 | Right. | 2604.3235 |
2333 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2604.4903 | You know. | 2604.9958 |
2334 | PRV_int_01 | 2605.8905 | What uh- | 2606.6739 |
2336 | | 2607.2278 | what- | 2607.4704 |
2338 | | 2608.0265 | so that was back in the eighties? | 2609.4216 |
2340 | | 2609.6895 | [Say-] | 2610.0635 |
2341 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2609.8512 | [That was] back in- | 2611.2867 |
2342 | | 2611.8377 | was it the eighties? Or late- [had to] have been the [late eighties?] Nineties yeah. | 2614.9139 |
2343 | misc | 2612.9093 | [/Ninety/.] | 2613.2480 |
2345 | | 2613.5108 | [/Or the/ nineties. | 2614.2770 |
2346 | PRV_int_01 | 2615.0150 | [Earl-] | 2615.2829 |
2347 | misc | 2615.0453 | [/Inaudible/] | 2616.4050 |
2348 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2615.7378 | [We're only talking about five] years ago. [That's- that's, uh, ninety-five, ninety-six.] | 2618.6004 |
2349 | PRV_int_01 | 2616.7589 | [Oh wow, okay. That was five-] | 2618.1893 |
2350 | misc | 2617.7627 | [ninety-six, ninety] seven. | 2618.9678 |
2351 | PRV_int_01 | 2619.3266 | Oh okay. | 2619.8018 |
2352 | misc | 2619.6956 | [Ninety-eight.] | 2620.1101 |
2353 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2619.8624 | [So] that's- | 2620.4315 |
2354 | | 2620.7145 | That's not a [long time ago. <laugh>] | 2622.8072 |
2355 | misc | 2621.2554 | [Ninety-seven- ninety-six.] It was ninety-six isn't it? | 2623.3683 |
2356 | PRV_int_01 | 2622.0136 | [Right right.] | 2622.7718 |
2357 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2624.7836 | Ninety-six, okay. Yeah so that's not a long long time ago. | 2627.7081 |
2358 | PRV_int_01 | 2627.8092 | Right. | 2628.1074 |
2359 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2628.1630 | But we hope he's long gone. | 2629.2094 |
2360 | PRV_int_01 | 2629.5632 | Yeah. | 2629.8867 |
2361 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2630.0586 | You know. | 2630.5944 |
2362 | PRV_int_01 | 2631.1049 | What was the- | 2631.6609 |
2364 | | 2631.9389 | was the quality of life was a little bit harder back then or there was a lot of- | 2635.9856 |
2366 | | 2636.6023 | the economy wasn't that good or? | 2638.3107 |
2367 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2638.3360 | Uh, | 2638.9072 |
2369 | | 2639.3419 | I don't know who was president back during that time. | 2641.2858 |
2371 | | 2641.9733 | But it was good [though.] | 2642.9033 |
2372 | PRV_int_01 | 2642.6001 | [It was] pretty [good?] | 2643.4897 |
2373 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2643.2673 | [It was /??/.] | 2643.8587 |
2374 | misc | 2643.2976 | [/inaudible/] | 2645.0617 |
2375 | PRV_int_01 | 2644.2782 | [That was-] | 2644.6775 |
2376 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2645.1072 | [They say the] economy was good but the morale was coming down. | 2647.5667 |
2377 | PRV_int_01 | 2645.1122 | [Oh yeah.] | 2645.6025 |
2379 | | 2647.5465 | Really? | 2647.8245 |
2380 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2647.8295 | With all the administration problem that [was going on, but the morale] was certainly coming down, but /and/ [but.] | 2652.3571 |
2381 | PRV_int_01 | 2649.4976 | [Ah, okay.] | 2650.3417 |
2383 | | 2651.9773 | [Yeah.] | 2652.4171 |
2384 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2652.7557 | Uh, people attacked. | 2653.7970 |
2385 | PRV_int_01 | 2653.9234 | Yeah. | 2654.3075 |
2386 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2654.4187 | You know, that was happening back then. | 2655.9705 |
2387 | PRV_int_01 | 2656.1474 | [Uh-huh.] | 2656.4869 |
2388 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2656.1575 | [and so] but now | 2657.2797 |
2389 | | 2657.8357 | it's gonna hit the administration. I think the town started- I think more people started coming to the meeting | 2661.5437 |
2391 | | 2662.0593 | than they ever have in a long time. | 2663.5185 |
2392 | PRV_int_01 | 2663.5151 | Yeah. | 2663.7577 |
2393 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2663.7425 | And you done had a- | 2664.6271 |
2394 | | 2665.0293 | some kind of meeting with four or five people, and then so when this happened, a hundred. | 2668.0065 |
2395 | PRV_int_01 | 2668.1279 | Mm. | 2668.5019 |
2396 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2668.7294 | You know, everybody was- was /??/ more people than what the building could hold. | 2671.4791 |
2397 | PRV_int_01 | 2671.6842 | [Wow.] | 2672.2099 |
2398 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2671.8359 | [That's how] concerned that people were | 2673.4584 |
2399 | PRV_int_01 | 2673.5241 | [Yeah.] | 2673.9285 |
2400 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2673.6101 | [/to/] what's going on with- with the town at the time. | 2675.5511 |
2401 | PRV_int_01 | 2675.5460 | [Okay.] | 2676.0566 |
2402 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2675.7937 | [And so] when /RD-NAME-4/ | 2677.0675 |
2403 | | 2677.4719 | a /negative/ | 2678.1593 |
2405 | | 2678.4200 | strike against the town I can say that we'll rally together. | 2680.9120 |
2406 | PRV_int_01 | 2681.1546 | Really? | 2681.4882 |
2407 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2681.6651 | Yeah they would come together, try to- | 2683.1057 |
2409 | | 2683.6011 | it's something about their problem. | 2684.5716 |
2410 | PRV_int_01 | 2684.7363 | Yeah. | 2685.0042 |
2411 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2684.9839 | [<laugh>] The problem must be removed. | 2687.1069 |
2412 | PRV_int_01 | 2685.2367 | [/Okay./] | 2685.6411 |
2413 | | 2687.2535 | [Yeah.] | 2687.6427 |
2414 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2687.2586 | [You know] they will do that. | 2688.3504 |
2415 | | 2688.6688 | [/Yeah/], they will do that. | 2689.4321 |
2416 | PRV_int_01 | 2688.6840 | [Yeah.] | 2688.9317 |
2417 | | 2690.0690 | And it's- it's a s- a smaller town so | 2692.4577 |
2418 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2692.3667 | Oh yeah. | 2692.8014 |
2419 | PRV_int_01 | 2692.9227 | people kind of | 2693.6405 |
2420 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2694.1915 | [A town] this size should not have this kind of problem. | 2696.3144 |
2421 | PRV_int_01 | 2694.2167 | [know what-] | 2694.5857 |
2422 | | 2696.4610 | Yeah. | 2696.7289 |
2423 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2697.6366 | You know, that should be /??/ problem such as | 2699.8102 |
2425 | | 2700.4622 | um, | 2700.9273 |
2427 | | 2701.2255 | <laugh> | 2701.8320 |
2429 | | 2702.0949 | well I crashed my car so [<laugh>] | 2704.0649 |
2430 | PRV_int_01 | 2703.2958 | [<laugh>] | 2704.1399 |
2431 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2704.3320 | it shouldn't be management management [constantly.] You know it just | 2707.7490 |
2432 | PRV_int_01 | 2706.2780 | [Right.] | 2706.7178 |
2433 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2708.0169 | people sometimes- | 2708.9874 |
2435 | | 2709.3311 | uh, | 2709.8062 |
2437 | | 2709.9810 | I would like to see the town give people more of a | 2711.8664 |
2439 | | 2712.3231 | expansion time frame to | 2713.9759 |
2441 | | 2714.2135 | see what they can and cannot do than to judge 'em on the first month or so and- | 2717.7670 |
2443 | | 2718.1056 | [and go that] route. I would like to see people give people more time to | 2720.7168 |
2444 | PRV_int_01 | 2718.1187 | [Mm-hm.] | 2718.4858 |
2445 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2721.1060 | you know, to see what they can do. | 2722.3798 |
2446 | PRV_int_01 | 2722.5567 | Yeah. | 2722.8650 |
2447 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2723.1077 | You know we- we have short tempers. | 2724.7555 |
2448 | PRV_int_01 | 2725.1274 | Sure. | 2725.4884 |
2449 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2725.6278 | You know we don't have a- you don't show, | 2727.3464 |
2451 | | 2727.6598 | you got to go. | 2728.1906 |
2452 | PRV_int_01 | 2728.3169 | [Okay. <laugh>] | 2729.4138 |
2453 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2728.5090 | [You know? <laugh>] So- | 2730.3590 |
2454 | | 2730.7764 | so we need to kind of | 2732.3434 |
2456 | | 2732.7225 | ease off of that some. Give people more- more time to get themselves together. | 2736.1293 |
2457 | PRV_int_01 | 2736.2153 | Yeah. | 2736.6601 |
2458 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2736.7359 | You know, cause if you come in on a bad ship, | 2738.5838 |
2460 | | 2738.7910 | ship not gonna | 2739.6150 |
2462 | | 2739.9385 | become a good ship over night. | 2741.4347 |
2463 | PRV_int_01 | 2741.4347 | Right. | 2741.8340 |
2464 | PRV_se0_ag2_m_02 | 2742.0715 | You know and we- | 2742.8399 |