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1PRV_int_010.6917In terms of what we're doing, you feel2.1614
3 2.3491pretty comfortable- familiar- familiar with what we're doing?4.6736 
4PRV_se0_ag3_f_016.0178If you got to talk about Princeville.7.5315
6 7.6712[<laugh>]8.3981 
7PRV_int_017.6752[Yeah.]7.9388
8 8.6178I [think we] uh,9.9038
9PRV_se0_ag3_f_018.9173[Yeah.]9.1889
10PRV_int_0110.0339you know, we-10.3974
12 11.1602we- we're just preserving12.4702 
14 12.9734for the- for the oral history project at least. It, um-15.2898 
16 15.9072just preserving the- the people of the town from this time and, uh,19.6454 
18 20.3763talking about Princeville21.5008 
20 22.1039but also22.5552 
22 22.8787talking about23.4858 
24 23.7853just kind of getting to know people from Princeville at this time so we can kind of put together, um,28.3047 
26 28.4764<ts>28.6441 
28 29.0914kind of like a time capsule30.1977 
30 30.4653um, through31.1186 
32 31.3982the stories32.1011 
34 32.2329of [people]32.7361 
35PRV_se0_ag3_f_0132.3487[Mm-hm.]32.7521
36PRV_int_0133.4510who are from here.34.1539
38 34.8608Um,35.1404 
40 35.7298<ts> I hear that little clicking I don't like.37.5149 
42 41.0160/?/41.2037 
44 42.6255It might be a battery.43.8125 
46 44.1912There.44.4610 
48 44.6598/Unintelligible/45.3746 
49PRV_se0_ag3_f_0146.9792I have, uh,47.8833
51 50.3237fifty units over there that I manage.52.3118 
52PRV_int_0152.7141Oh right, the uh-53.8407
53PRV_se0_ag3_f_0153.9448Apartments.54.5892
54PRV_int_0154.5866/RD-WORK-4/?55.7131
55PRV_se0_ag3_f_0155.7983Yes /RD-WORK-3/.56.7829
56PRV_int_0156.8208Okay.57.3320
57PRV_se0_ag3_f_0157.2941Mm-hm.57.6633
58PRV_int_0158.1082And how long have you been doing that?59.7129
59PRV_se0_ag3_f_0160.9294Well, if I live to see October63.0432
60PRV_int_0163.0527<laugh>63.6491
61PRV_se0_ag3_f_0163.5592fifth of this y- of this year,65.4052
62PRV_int_0165.4620Uh-huh.65.8502
63PRV_se0_ag3_f_0166.1957I will have been there twenty two years.68.8160
64PRV_int_0168.7640Wow.69.2562
65PRV_se0_ag3_f_0169.5260Mm-hm.69.9189
66PRV_int_0170.1461And you've always- so you-71.2585
68 71.5093you own those properties?72.9199 
69PRV_se0_ag3_f_0172.9652No I wish I [did.]74.7166
70PRV_int_0174.0871[<laugh>]75.1758
71PRV_se0_ag3_f_0175.1000Uh, no,75.9426
72 76.5295uh, they are privately owned78.8327
73PRV_int_0178.9037Okay.79.2587
74PRV_se0_ag3_f_0179.1688uh, by share holders out of Johnson City,81.5639
75PRV_int_0181.7485Mm-hm.82.0514
76PRV_se0_ag3_f_0182.0798Tennessee and they have been here since nineteen eighty85.4575
78 86.5746one.87.1190 
79PRV_int_0187.3982Okay.87.8195
80PRV_se0_ag3_f_0188.2313And they were of course,89.9401
82 90.7475in the disaster of the flood and they were rebuilt,93.7769 
84 94.2739and we rented up in March96.2383 
86 96.9037uh, two thousand98.1675 
88 98.7403two.99.0148 
89PRV_int_0199.6112Okay.100.0183
90PRV_se0_ag3_f_01100.7993Yes.101.2727
92 102.0754[No I take] that back. Two thousand one we rented up.105.0811 
93PRV_int_01102.0754[/Uh-huh./]102.5298
94 105.4266Okay.105.8810
95PRV_se0_ag3_f_01106.0325Mm-hm.106.4254
96PRV_int_01106.3875I apol-106.9792
97 113.2585Turn this back on.114.2762
99 114.5298Okay.114.9913 
100PRV_se0_ag3_f_01115.9025But this here is, yeah, I don't know why I wanna think this is two thousand119.4194
102 120.2742five.121.0220 
103PRV_int_01121.3913You getting a little ahead of yourself.122.8350
104PRV_se0_ag3_f_01122.8160[Yeah, yeah.]124.1414
105PRV_int_01123.0101[<laugh>]124.0041
106PRV_se0_ag3_f_01124.5911But we did, we actually rented up-126.1389
108 126.5203I was correct, two thousand two- March129.1237 
110 129.4740two thousand two.130.6195 
111PRV_int_01131.0123Okay.131.4478
112PRV_se0_ag3_f_01131.4667We rented up,132.2336
114 132.7144sure did.133.3439 
115PRV_int_01133.9640You rented up,134.7024
117 134.9438you [mean-]135.3367 
118PRV_se0_ag3_f_01135.1284[Uh] all the units.136.2929
119PRV_int_01136.3355Oh okay.136.8234
120PRV_se0_ag3_f_01137.2727We had rented up all those units139.0808
122 139.4007in less than forty five days.141.1758 
123PRV_int_01141.9236Okay.142.3781
124PRV_se0_ag3_f_01142.9887Yes.143.5803
125PRV_int_01144.1748So you kind of- you brought them out?145.7037
127 145.8362Or you-146.2811 
129 146.5841what did-146.9154 
131 147.1000how did that [work?]147.9852 
132PRV_se0_ag3_f_01147.7674[Uh] we rented the pe- rented to the people149.8906
133PRV_int_01150.0206Oh, [okay.]150.4939
134PRV_se0_ag3_f_01150.3262[to] come back to live here.151.6800
135PRV_int_01151.7699Okay. [Once they were] rebuilt.153.5781
136PRV_se0_ag3_f_01152.2953[Mm-hm.]152.8397
137 153.6396Once they were [rebuilt.]154.9603
138PRV_int_01154.3449[Okay.]154.9413
139 155.0928[Okay.]155.4478
140PRV_se0_ag3_f_01155.1212[See],155.4478
141 155.8738all the construction started on 'em in the year two thousand159.4219
143 159.6444one.160.1650 
144PRV_int_01160.3686Mm-hm.160.8041
145PRV_se0_ag3_f_01161.0739And, uh,161.7460
147 162.3168we were kind of amazed that164.1297 
149 164.3900they were completed165.3225 
150PRV_int_01165.6586Mm-hm.166.0088
151PRV_se0_ag3_f_01165.9378by March two thousand two.167.9827
152PRV_int_01168.0963Okay.168.5034
153PRV_se0_ag3_f_01168.7096And we were able to get 'em all rented up170.7261
155 170.9864in less than forty five days.172.6479 
156PRV_int_01172.9035Wow.173.2821
158 174.2146Now it- th- those apartments had been here before the flood too and were rebuilt or?178.9319 
159PRV_se0_ag3_f_01178.9224Right.179.5330
160PRV_int_01179.4857[Okay.]179.8819
161PRV_se0_ag3_f_01179.6655[Right.]180.0158
162 180.1436Mm-hm.180.5034
163PRV_int_01180.5440Okay. And now how did you get into the-182.6551
165 183.1616the-183.3888 
166PRV_se0_ag3_f_01183.3414Housing [business?]184.3023
167PRV_int_01184.1177[Housing] business. <laugh>185.6608
168PRV_se0_ag3_f_01185.8738<sigh> Well, I- I was187.8504
170 188.4799in school and, um,189.9994 
172 191.4052I had taken, uh,192.3803 
174 193.1356management course,194.4089 
175PRV_int_01194.5178Uh-huh.194.7971
176PRV_se0_ag3_f_01194.7971and one of my instructors196.0988
177 196.8230uh, looked at me and said,197.9306
179 199.3345you just have that pizazz to be a leader202.4301 
180PRV_int_01202.7331Uh-huh.203.0502
181PRV_se0_ag3_f_01203.2774and not a follower.204.6548
182PRV_int_01204.8138Uh-huh.205.1925
183PRV_se0_ag3_f_01205.9356So I thought about it one day I was on the job working <laugh>209.2821
185 209.5283and uh, everybody was telling me to do this, do that.212.1013 
187 212.4894I was a sup-213.1805 
189 213.4030one of the support people in a group of engineers at /RD-WORK-1/.216.7858 
190PRV_int_01216.8753Okay.217.2871
191PRV_se0_ag3_f_01217.8741And, uh,218.5651
193 219.9378I just decided well,221.3579 
195 222.5392this isn't for me.223.6327 
196PRV_int_01223.7557Mm-hm.224.1155
197PRV_se0_ag3_f_01224.7261It- it's no sense in growing old /into to it/ you know and don't like it.228.3850
198PRV_int_01228.4493Mm-hm.228.9179
199PRV_se0_ag3_f_01229.0078So I left and, uh,230.5651
201 231.7864came home232.5579 
203 232.9129and233.4099 
205 234.1768so someone told me235.3771 
207 235.8457about the apartments being built237.7958 
209 238.1414and they suggested that I go over240.0584 
211 240.4655and apply for it.241.2724 
212PRV_int_01241.4386Mm.241.8457
213PRV_se0_ag3_f_01241.9214So242.4231
215 243.8290I never completed an application. /RD-NAME-4/ and I just-247.7037 
217 248.1581we just hit it off.249.4030 
218PRV_int_01249.3888Yeah.249.6776
219PRV_se0_ag3_f_01250.1603And, uh, today I call him my white brother.252.5375
220PRV_int_01252.5318[<laugh>]253.9167
221PRV_se0_ag3_f_01253.0362[And- <laugh>]253.9403
222 254.5367and, uh,255.1048
224 255.3320I guess it was embarrassment of it all, I ask him today, uh- Well I ask him sometime as a joke- /RD-NAME-2/ did you hire me in this business because263.3342 
226 263.9874I slipped and fell in that mud with my pretty white pleated skirt on or just what [was it that made you] hire me that day?270.6028 
227PRV_int_01268.5721[<laugh>]269.3200
228 270.6434[<laugh>]271.4954
229PRV_se0_ag3_f_01271.0126[It was] nasty and muddy and they hadn't pulled- you know, pulled the /curving/ in and the s- paving.276.2856
230PRV_int_01276.4371Uh-huh.276.7927
231PRV_se0_ag3_f_01276.9605And I slid from one side of that curve all the way across to the other, [and he] came out and scooped me up- [<laugh>] I was- I was half my [size then.]286.0656
232PRV_int_01280.9271[Ugh!]281.3058
234 282.6102[<laugh>]283.5759 
236 285.5450[Wow.]286.0372 
237 286.2739Wow.286.6763
238PRV_se0_ag3_f_01286.7993And, uh,287.3910
239PRV_int_01287.5945<laugh>287.9638
240PRV_se0_ag3_f_01288.0774too- he took me inside where he was289.9261
242 290.6503holding one the units as his office. [He was] occupying one of the older units as his office space.295.8478 
243PRV_int_01292.8042[Mm.]293.0456
244 295.9472[Mm-hm.]296.4868
245PRV_se0_ag3_f_01296.1034[<ts>]296.2454
246 296.5294He brushed me up and down trying to get the mud [off (laughing).]300.2148
247PRV_int_01299.7225[<laugh>]301.0636
248PRV_se0_ag3_f_01300.5745[And (laughing)]301.0810
249 301.4360he said, you aren't gonna cry are you? I says, no I'm not gonna cry.304.7190
251 305.2350I said- he said, well did you hurt yourself? I says, no I'm not hurting. It's just- I'm [embarrassed.]310.1131 
252PRV_int_01309.9191[<laugh>]311.1781
253PRV_se0_ag3_f_01311.1876That's all (laughing). <laugh>312.6739
254PRV_int_01312.9485/?/313.1757
255PRV_se0_ag3_f_01313.1567So he start just smiling. He says, embarrassed about what?316.5675
256 317.5805He says, come on, tell me your name.318.8159
258 319.5543I say /RD-NAME-5/320.8276 
260 321.2658/RD-NAME-1/.321.9664 
262 322.2930He says, uh,323.1876 
264 324.0207and why are you here? I said, I'm here to apply for your manager's job.327.7392 
265PRV_int_01328.0611<laugh>328.4161
266PRV_se0_ag3_f_01328.3687And he just fell out laughing.330.1012
267 330.6408He says, well you know what, if you aren't hurt,332.7566
269 333.1144I think you'll make a dern good [manager. <laugh>]336.9816 
270PRV_int_01335.2065[<laugh>]337.3839
271 337.6395Wow.338.0845
273 338.5058<laugh>338.9176 
274PRV_se0_ag3_f_01338.9081And I- he- he was looking at me hard, and I was so embarrassed. Believe me, the tears were here.344.1744
275PRV_int_01344.1981Mm-hm.344.8040
277 344.9487Mm-hm.345.2848 
278PRV_se0_ag3_f_01345.3416I- I thought I was looking real neat347.9450
280 348.4751that white pleated skirt and that red sh-350.8892 
282 351.2138uh, gingham blouse on.352.6433 
283PRV_int_01352.6717<laugh>353.1734
284PRV_se0_ag3_f_01353.2776And got over there and I slid all the way across from one side of the s- curve to the other. I says, oh my God. This man'll never hire me,362.4681
285PRV_int_01362.6241[<laugh>]363.3707
286PRV_se0_ag3_f_01362.9250[looking like] a little mud [dog (laughing).]365.2208
287PRV_int_01364.6334[Mm.] <laugh>366.2810
288PRV_se0_ag3_f_01366.2763But he did.367.1236
289PRV_int_01367.1709Uh-huh.367.5922
290PRV_se0_ag3_f_01367.5117So I been there every since.369.0297
291PRV_int_01369.1759Okay.369.6682
292PRV_se0_ag3_f_01370.0137And, uh,370.7616
294 371.4764when he finished these new units,373.6565 
296 374.0797he wanted me back. He told the owner, he says, uh,377.5095 
298 378.0822I don't want anybody to manage them but /RD-NAME-1/.380.6004 
299PRV_int_01380.6383Mm.381.0359
301 381.7723Now when was this that you382.9604 
303 383.6562slipped in the mud?384.4183 
305 384.7733[/inaudible/]385.6725 
306PRV_se0_ag3_f_01384.9721[Oh this- this] was back in nineteen eighty [one.]387.8291
307PRV_int_01387.6587[Okay.]388.1415
308PRV_se0_ag3_f_01388.1179/Alright/ I slipped in the mud.389.6468
309PRV_int_01389.7509<laugh>390.0538
310PRV_se0_ag3_f_01390.0302I'll never forget it.391.0763
311 391.1946<laugh>392.3022
312PRV_int_01393.3463[/??/]393.6208
313PRV_se0_ag3_f_01393.3747[It w-]393.5830
314PRV_int_01394.0516<laugh>394.8941
315PRV_se0_ag3_f_01394.8989<laugh> [Oh.]396.0491
316PRV_int_01395.6250[<laugh>]395.8001
317 397.2486And you been managing uh, the apartments ever [since?]399.8851
318PRV_se0_ag3_f_01399.6484[Every] since.400.8629
319 401.1724<ts> Every since.402.2120
320PRV_int_01402.9504So403.4474
322 403.8261now404.2710 
324 404.4225you- you were living somewhere else when you worked at /RD-WORK-1/ or?407.5540 
325PRV_se0_ag3_f_01407.6913Uh, yes.408.6664
327 409.0403I was still at home with my mother410.8721 
329 411.3266and411.9088 
331 412.3253my brother413.1895 
333 413.9090and my two sisters415.4426 
335 416.4225and, uh, I had two sons,418.2070 
337 418.5647young sons.419.4120 
339 419.7149And we were all with my mother.421.0498 
340PRV_int_01421.8355Mkay. And where was-422.7917
342 423.0993where was this at?423.9372 
343PRV_se0_ag3_f_01424.2807Uh, we were at /RD-ADDRESS-3/426.0037
344PRV_int_01426.6285[Okay.]426.9172
345PRV_se0_ag3_f_01426.7658[/RD-ADDRESS-4/], [which was] then /RD-ADDRESS-6/429.6626
346PRV_int_01427.7977[Oh.]428.0012
347 429.7715Mm.430.0176
348PRV_se0_ag3_f_01430.0176because they hadn't,431.2463
349 431.7481uh, finished cutting the roads and what have you all through Princeville435.1372
351 435.4449as they are today.436.6898 
352PRV_int_01436.8961Okay.437.2842
353PRV_se0_ag3_f_01437.5777Mm-hm.437.9847
354PRV_int_01438.1646Now you- you were born in Princeville?440.1148
355PRV_se0_ag3_f_01440.7443I was born-441.7810
357 442.0014<ts> this is kind of443.3126 
359 444.1078special to me.445.0003 
360PRV_int_01445.0498Okay.445.4758
361PRV_se0_ag3_f_01446.3041I was born down beside the area where the dyke is today450.5670
363 450.7232on451.0356 
365 451.2296this side452.0893 
366PRV_int_01452.2994Wow.452.5787
367PRV_se0_ag3_f_01452.7822above Powell Park.454.4105
368PRV_int_01454.3754Okay. Wow.455.4769
369 455.9421Okay so,456.6900
371 456.9125let's see.457.2154 
373 457.7693Powell Park.458.4461 
374PRV_se0_ag3_f_01458.6875My front yard probably460.6188
376 460.7872would have rested462.2309 
378 462.7800somewhat463.9018 
380 464.9384right across in front of the dyke467.3126 
381PRV_int_01467.4262Wow.467.7812
383 468.5433Okay.469.0024 
384PRV_se0_ag3_f_01469.1728on this side of the river.470.7961
385PRV_int_01470.7964Mm.471.1419
387 471.4307Mm.471.7999 
389 472.7635And how-473.2227 
391 473.5587yeah, how- now how, uh,475.5657 
393 475.8687long did you live there, in the place you were born?478.1387 
394PRV_se0_ag3_f_01478.3848Mm,479.5966
396 481.0261I can remember my mother and my grandmother moving when I was485.2321 
398 486.2262maybe about487.1350 
400 487.8071six years old.488.7633 
401PRV_int_01488.7585Mm-hm.489.1751
402PRV_se0_ag3_f_01489.2508Mm-hm.489.6153
403PRV_int_01489.7005Mkay.490.0934
405 490.5032And then you moved over to /RD-ADDRESS-5/?492.3540 
406PRV_se0_ag3_f_01492.6711Uh, no over here in Princeville.494.7493
407PRV_int_01494.7822Okay.495.1419
408PRV_se0_ag3_f_01495.1325I used to live on Main Street.497.1753
409PRV_int_01497.3836Okay.497.7623
410PRV_se0_ag3_f_01498.7326When it comes to Princeville, I'm a pioneer. [<laugh>]501.1846
411PRV_int_01500.5408[Yeah (laughing).]501.6106
412PRV_se0_ag3_f_01501.6058I used to live on Main Street across from /RD-NAME-3/.504.5433
413PRV_int_01504.5244Okay.505.0782
414PRV_se0_ag3_f_01505.5704And so506.4651
416 506.9763we weren't financially ready to509.7197 
418 509.9705<ts>510.1646 
420 510.7326renovate the house511.8450 
422 512.3562and- at the time- so513.8993 
424 514.2590my mother decides she was going to516.4960 
426 517.0072rent at another location. So we did move down520.0697 
428 520.7635to the /RD-NAME-2/'s home house.522.6332 
430 523.1681You know where the CDC building sat today- occupy that space? Right across from town [hall?]528.0131 
431PRV_int_01527.6960[Yeah] yeah yeah.528.4865
432PRV_se0_ag3_f_01528.6238That's where I was living at- at- at another time.531.1514
433PRV_int_01531.0804Okay.531.5027
434PRV_se0_ag3_f_01531.5064But by then I was, like,532.8203
436 533.1091nineteen.534.0084 
437PRV_int_01533.9516Mm-hm.534.4770
438 534.6900Mm-hm.535.0119
439PRV_se0_ag3_f_01536.4840I was nineteen [then.]537.7952
440PRV_int_01537.6532[Okay.]538.1076
441PRV_se0_ag3_f_01538.1691Mm-hm.538.5762
442PRV_int_01538.7777So you've lived539.6203
444 539.8901in a few different places.541.1728 
445PRV_se0_ag3_f_01541.1918Yes and then my mother decided that she wanted to become a home owner,545.0239
447 545.6297so546.0842 
449 546.4250we went over547.4190 
451 547.5610to /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue and corner of /RD-ADDRESS-2/ and we bought a quarter of an acre land over there.552.3208 
452PRV_int_01552.4534Okay.552.8746
453PRV_se0_ag3_f_01552.9362My mother and I.553.6841
454PRV_int_01553.9444Oh wow.554.4414
455PRV_se0_ag3_f_01554.6544[Mm-hm.]555.0567
456PRV_int_01554.8248[Okay.]555.1703
457 555.9040So you grew up with your mother and558.3303
459 558.5764did you have [a lot of sib-?]559.9491 
460PRV_se0_ag3_f_01559.0166[My grandmother]560.1763
461PRV_int_01560.1527Okay.560.5834
462PRV_se0_ag3_f_01560.7254and, uh,561.4875
464 561.9494my one brother563.2037 
466 563.4262and my two sisters.564.7042 
467PRV_int_01564.8131Okay.565.2912
469 565.8450Okay.566.2034 
470PRV_se0_ag3_f_01566.4177And566.8816
472 567.3502you may have seen my sister, met her.569.1138 
474 569.3978She is the- my sister next to me571.2580 
475PRV_int_01571.3101Mm-hm.571.6367
476PRV_se0_ag3_f_01572.1101is the director of the day care center up here on Beasley Street. /RD-WORK-1/576.3208
478 576.7847/RD-WORK-5/ [up here.]578.1195 
479PRV_int_01577.6888[Okay.] I don't think-578.6828
480PRV_se0_ag3_f_01578.5550Right down the street [here.]579.8094
481PRV_int_01579.4922[Okay.]579.8141
482 579.9987I think I've seen that580.7954
484 581.0286[but I haven't met] her.581.9516 
485PRV_se0_ag3_f_01581.0333[Yes.]581.5493
487 581.9137Uh-huh, that's my sister.583.2196 
488PRV_int_01583.3006Okay, what's her name?584.3136
489PRV_se0_ag3_f_01584.3988Her name is /RD-NAME-3/.585.7857
490PRV_int_01585.9636Okay.586.4085
491PRV_se0_ag3_f_01586.7446But587.1659
493 587.7859would you believe588.7705 
495 589.6273another young590.4509 
497 590.6497lady and I-591.6532 
499 592.4653uh, well no, I organized the day care center595.2202 
501 595.4000in Princeville.596.4225 
502PRV_int_01596.5692Mm-hm.596.8911
504 597.6910Okay.598.1170 
505PRV_se0_ag3_f_01598.6594I was the original organizer of that under /RD-WORK-6/.602.1621
506PRV_int_01602.2710Okay.602.8080
507PRV_se0_ag3_f_01603.1088I paint floors. I mop floors. That- that was in the old town hall. Would [you believe] it?608.4887
508PRV_int_01607.7977[Oh.]608.0580
509 608.4935Really? [Okay.]609.2887
510PRV_se0_ag3_f_01609.0520[Mm-hm.] The old flooded town hall.611.1473
511PRV_int_01611.4499This was a /RD-WORK-2/?612.6948
512PRV_se0_ag3_f_01612.7326Yes this was /RD-WORK-2/.614.1763
513PRV_int_01614.2284I've heard614.7585
515 615.0804a little bit about that.616.0886 
516PRV_se0_ag3_f_01616.0934And of course, uh, before that,618.2593
518 618.8888I was the first secretary and acting librarian621.7431 
519PRV_int_01622.0981[Mm-hm.]622.4152
520PRV_se0_ag3_f_01622.2969[at] the school here.623.3315
521PRV_int_01623.5067Okay.623.8901
522PRV_se0_ag3_f_01624.4534When they624.8936
524 625.0734f- completed the school,626.3041 
525PRV_int_01626.4319Okay.626.9100
526PRV_se0_ag3_f_01626.9526mm-hm.627.4023
528 627.5964[I was the] first secretary and librarian there.629.9232 
529PRV_int_01627.6058[Wow.]628.0034
530 629.9279Wow.630.5575
531PRV_se0_ag3_f_01630.8415Mm-hm.631.1728
533 632.4083/?/632.7207 
534PRV_int_01632.9289So you've had a few different hats.634.7919
536 634.9835Yeah.635.2369 
537PRV_se0_ag3_f_01635.2369Oh [yes. Oh] [yes. I'm] a pioneer when it come- come to Princeville.638.7065
538PRV_int_01635.6297[<laugh>]636.0984
540 636.3587[<laugh>]636.6569 
541 638.8579[Yeah.]639.1325
542PRV_se0_ag3_f_01638.9857[When] they removed the post office from Princeville,641.3363
543PRV_int_01641.3931Uh-huh.641.7765
544PRV_se0_ag3_f_01641.8664I was the thirteen and a half girl644.3373
546 644.8627that they used to go around and647.4451 
548 647.9374put the addresses on the649.6367 
550 649.9728m- individual mail [boxes.]651.5648 
551PRV_int_01651.2887[Oh] wow.652.0508
552PRV_se0_ag3_f_01652.2922[Mm-hm.]652.6424
553PRV_int_01652.3186[<laugh>]652.8819
554PRV_se0_ag3_f_01653.3505<ts> Yes.653.8711
555PRV_int_01654.0368So you've been a part of a lot of the town's history?656.8106
556PRV_se0_ag3_f_01656.9053Oh honey, you have to fight me about being a [pioneer when it comes to Princeville.]660.8380
557PRV_int_01659.3741[<laugh>]661.5042
558PRV_se0_ag3_f_01661.6746You don't talk about Princeville if you never lived here. [<laugh>]664.9103
559PRV_int_01664.1150[That's right.]664.9529
560 665.1422That's right.665.7102
561PRV_se0_ag3_f_01665.6865Mm-hm-hm.666.2451
562PRV_int_01666.0936Wow. Wow.667.0450
563 667.6793So back to-668.7254
565 669.0331you were born right next to the dyke there.671.0428 
566PRV_se0_ag3_f_01671.3410Right [across from] that dyke.672.6806
567PRV_int_01671.6818[Wow.]671.9942
569 672.6569Right across from the dyke.673.8355 
570 674.2947What um,675.1135
572 675.7952now676.3442 
574 677.1327what year were you born?678.0605 
575PRV_se0_ag3_f_01679.0971Uh, in forty680.0817
577 680.6970two.681.0567 
578PRV_int_01681.2698Okay.681.6910
579PRV_se0_ag3_f_01681.8094In forty two.682.8014
580PRV_int_01682.8961And your birthday?683.7907
581PRV_se0_ag3_f_01684.3634Twelve twenty four.685.4379
582PRV_int_01685.5704Twelve twenty four. Oh okay. Right- right before Christmas.688.6140
584 688.8014[<laugh>]689.6203 
585PRV_se0_ag3_f_01688.9907[Yes.]689.7149
586 689.8522Yes.690.6096
587PRV_int_01690.6616Okay.691.2060
589 691.5799Now you, uh,692.6213 
591 693.4165you694.0224 
593 694.3186um-694.9576 
595 695.6108do you remember being next to the dyke?697.6178 
597 698.0059Any,698.3136 
599 698.6544uh-699.1041 
601 699.2508I heard that there were700.1459 
603 700.3280floods-700.9718 
604PRV_se0_ag3_f_01701.2795The dyke was not there.702.5338
605PRV_int_01702.8652Okay.703.3432
606PRV_se0_ag3_f_01703.3622That's what I'm saying.704.3136
607PRV_int_01704.2994Yeah.704.7028
608PRV_se0_ag3_f_01705.0141It was not there.705.8946
610 706.6689Our-707.1564 
612 708.1741th- there were like two sets of houses down there.711.5869 
613PRV_int_01711.6721Yeah.711.9277
614PRV_se0_ag3_f_01711.8851There was the- there were the houses713.7339
615 714.0463that was714.6096
617 715.8403next to the river,717.1188 
618PRV_int_01717.1372Mm-hm.717.6721
619PRV_se0_ag3_f_01717.6674and then we lived across the street720.0037
620PRV_int_01720.3066Yeah.720.6190
621PRV_se0_ag3_f_01720.8888from those [houses.]722.6639
622PRV_int_01722.5455[Okay.]722.9573
623PRV_se0_ag3_f_01723.7052So724.0744
625 724.4795it was in- now if my- my-726.0179 
627 726.3161my mind serve me correctly,728.1862 
629 728.6213it was like back in nineteen- somewhere back in nineteen sixty f-732.6096 
631 733.6841five or seventy.734.5929 
633 734.9479It was somewhere back there that-736.3111 
635 736.7919Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ worked with another y-738.4202 
637 738.6096lady739.1350 
639 739.4521out of Tarboro and they got the dyke in [here.]741.6011 
640PRV_int_01741.3282[/inaudible/]741.7948
641PRV_se0_ag3_f_01741.7999But it was really later later on.743.8569
642PRV_int_01743.8806Yeah.744.2688
644 744.4676[Yeah.]744.8273 
645PRV_se0_ag3_f_01744.5622[Yeah.]744.9314
646 745.1018It was a many years later.746.2568
647PRV_int_01746.3041So yeah that's what I was saying that747.6910
649 747.8425you748.2306 
651 748.8961experienced some flooding down there?750.6001 
652PRV_se0_ag3_f_01751.1302Yes, [because]752.2710
653PRV_int_01751.6083[<laugh>]752.4935
654PRV_se0_ag3_f_01752.7443you let it fl- let the water come up,754.6215
656 754.9860my grandma spanked my hiney for g- opening the back door [looking] out at the water standing out in the [backyard.]760.8637 
657PRV_int_01758.0249[Oh.]758.3089
659 760.7446[<laugh>] Wow.761.9658 
660PRV_se0_ag3_f_01762.4439Girl, you'll fall out there and [drown. <laugh>]765.3360
661PRV_int_01764.1243[<laugh>]765.4070
662PRV_se0_ag3_f_01765.6011Because see, the houses down there set up real high768.9172
663PRV_int_01768.8983Mm-hm.769.4521
664PRV_se0_ag3_f_01769.4758for that [protection]770.7538
665PRV_int_01770.5692[Okay.]770.9526
666PRV_se0_ag3_f_01770.9857up from the water.771.9182
667PRV_int_01772.1955Okay [now were they up] on like stilts [or-]774.3776
668PRV_se0_ag3_f_01772.5742[Mm-hm.]773.1706
670 774.2262[Yes.]774.8226 
671PRV_int_01774.9267Okay.775.3811
672PRV_se0_ag3_f_01775.3574Yes.775.9491
673PRV_int_01776.0438Okay.776.4982
674PRV_se0_ag3_f_01776.5219So she didn't allow it- when sh- when the water came up,779.1138
676 779.6581we were not allowed to go out the back because see in the back it was lower.783.1940 
677PRV_int_01783.3550Mm-hm.783.7147
678PRV_se0_ag3_f_01783.6626And, uh, we couldn't go out there.785.3363
679PRV_int_01785.4073Okay.785.7812
680PRV_se0_ag3_f_01786.0084It was unsafe.787.1728
681PRV_int_01787.3480How often would the water run up?789.0615
682PRV_se0_ag3_f_01789.6390Well, as a little girl,791.6581
684 791.9989I can remember the water coming up794.1195 
686 794.8153just enough to aggravate us so that we couldn't797.4025 
688 797.8995get to the pump.799.0545 
689PRV_int_01799.0166Mm.799.5610
690PRV_se0_ag3_f_01800.5361Uh, you know.801.5538
691PRV_int_01801.9778Yeah.802.2996
692PRV_se0_ag3_f_01802.2949And then finally, like I said, one day, our-804.7326
693 805.7314my uncle came back home from the military and he purchased property down here809.3503
694PRV_int_01809.3599[Mm-hm.]809.8853
695PRV_se0_ag3_f_01809.7433on Main Street in Princeville. So we left from that area.812.7396
696PRV_int_01813.0425Okay.813.4638
697PRV_se0_ag3_f_01813.7620And814.5762
699 815.5067then the- the next really817.6225 
701 818.0911huge flood that I can remember820.1360 
703 820.3821is a year of nineteen fifty eight.822.2546 
704PRV_int_01822.2451Okay.822.7184
705 822.9220I think I heard a little bit-823.9018
706PRV_se0_ag3_f_01823.8687And again, I was825.3266
707 825.4828very young.826.3253
708PRV_int_01826.6310/?/826.8061
709PRV_se0_ag3_f_01826.8535I- I-827.5777
710PRV_int_01827.9563How- you woulda been-829.1018
711PRV_se0_ag3_f_01829.7219I- I think I was something maybe like about832.7351
713 833.5635I guess eleven years old, something like that.835.8876 
714PRV_int_01835.8923Mm-hm.836.2947
715PRV_se0_ag3_f_01836.7396And we had to leave Princeville.838.6046
717 839.1659We went out. Some people owned, uh,841.0592 
719 841.4900row boats and the motor boats843.3076 
720PRV_int_01843.4970Yeah.843.7762
721PRV_se0_ag3_f_01843.8898and, uh,844.6945
723 845.9753my uncle took us out in a car847.8497 
725 848.0107early so we went to my aunt's house over in Tarboro.851.1564 
727 851.8001And, uh,852.5244 
729 852.8699I boohooed and cried because I was ready to come back home and the water wouldn't recede. [<laugh>]857.9516 
730PRV_int_01857.1233[<laugh>]858.2167
731PRV_se0_ag3_f_01858.2404And we had to stay with my aunt for like about a week.861.4970
732PRV_int_01861.7857Uh-huh.862.2212
733PRV_se0_ag3_f_01863.2700<ts> And then the next864.4297
735 866.1621humongous flood867.5822 
737 867.7810I'll say it was ninety nine that I remember.870.0463 
738PRV_int_01870.1126Yeah.870.4960
739PRV_se0_ag3_f_01870.4723And I'll never forget that one.871.9444
740PRV_int_01871.8781<laugh>872.7964
741 873.7573Yeah, it s- so I- um- I'm sure you have quite a story876.6616
743 877.2107about that time, um,878.7017 
745 879.4260before we get to that story though,881.5966 
747 882.1410uh,882.5859 
749 882.9788is-883.2675 
751 884.4840uh- I kind of wanted885.5396 
753 885.7952to-886.0271 
755 886.3186to know a little bit more about your- your childhood in terms of-889.3148 
757 889.9207especially living down right next to the water-892.1549 
759 892.5316what-892.9220 
761 893.2605what was893.9516 
763 894.2782life like as a-895.5988 
765 895.8592a child in Princeville? What did it-897.4023 
767 897.9750what are your memories of the town?899.5161 
769 899.7149Your early memories of- of the town?901.8024 
770PRV_se0_ag3_f_01903.2319Well, uh,904.2164
772 904.8819as you can see today,906.3256 
774 906.6190Princeville has never had908.4319 
776 909.0899recreation for the k- children here.911.2037 
777PRV_int_01911.3173Okay.911.7528
778PRV_se0_ag3_f_01912.5065And that- that's one of my big dreams because I915.6200
780 915.8094have known all of my life never to have918.0675 
781PRV_int_01918.4960[Hm.]918.7942
782PRV_se0_ag3_f_01918.5149[access] to any recreation here.920.5929
783PRV_int_01920.7207Okay.921.1230
784PRV_se0_ag3_f_01921.4828And of course, I attended school923.7061
786 924.0510the-924.2356 
788 925.1918the /RD-SCHOOL-2/925.9207 
790 926.1337/RD-SCHOOL-2/-926.9431 
791PRV_int_01927.0047Right.927.2887
792PRV_se0_ag3_f_01927.3171building [over there], [the old] town hall.929.3410
793PRV_int_01927.8400[/?/]928.1860
795 928.4653[Yeah.]928.7162 
796PRV_se0_ag3_f_01929.6439I went through fourth grade there. Then, uh, we had to932.2805
798 932.6544catch the bus right in front of there934.5174 
799PRV_int_01934.5411Mm.934.8109
800PRV_se0_ag3_f_01934.8393and commute to the /RD-SCHOOL-7/936.7468
802 937.5777colored school /?/938.4225 
804 938.5787over in Tarboro939.7526 
805PRV_int_01939.8046Okay.940.2401
806PRV_se0_ag3_f_01940.3186from fifth grade through high school.942.1268
807PRV_int_01942.1173Mm-hm.942.4912
808PRV_se0_ag3_f_01943.0450And, uh, like I said, there never been recreation over here.946.1123
810 946.4464There used to be a ball park948.7137 
812 949.6130across from950.8011 
814 951.2508the old town hall,952.4294 
815PRV_int_01952.5837Mm.952.7919
816PRV_se0_ag3_f_01952.7493back over in the wooded area.954.4628
817PRV_int_01954.5717Mm, yeah.954.9409
818PRV_se0_ag3_f_01954.9314And on Sunday e-956.2899
819 956.5455evenings, uh,957.7715
821 958.1218they would gather back there and play ball960.0461 
823 960.6096and961.1492 
825 961.4663the kids would962.2473 
827 962.5597sneak back there and play around while they were playing ball.965.7339 
828PRV_int_01965.7244Mm-hm.966.2451
829PRV_se0_ag3_f_01966.3634And of course our- our967.8213
831 969.2319most entertainment970.6614 
833 971.0807was to go to each other's972.8320 
835 973.3006yards973.9775 
837 974.2379and play games.975.3360 
838PRV_int_01975.3834Okay.975.7762
840 976.3564What kind of games would you play?977.6203 
841PRV_se0_ag3_f_01977.8948Oh,978.6758
843 978.8888we played hop scotch. We played Ring Around the Roses, all that little stuff they taught us at school.983.6440 
844PRV_int_01983.5163Uh-huh.984.0415
845PRV_se0_ag3_f_01984.2924And984.7894
847 985.9917in the- in these recent years,987.8567 
849 988.1738some of the kids have been a little bit more fortunate because, uh,991.2486 
851 991.9160/RD-NAME-4/ came into the area and, uh,994.6282 
853 995.5019implemented some summer activities for the kids.998.3751 
854PRV_int_01998.4177Mm-hm.998.7112
855PRV_se0_ag3_f_01998.6544But998.9147
856 999.1852in my- at my time1000.7662
858 1001.2916of1001.5093 
860 1001.9638say in recreation and entertainment,1004.0113 
862 1004.5651Princeville had1005.3036 
864 1005.5166nothing to offer.1006.6715 
865PRV_int_011006.6952Really?1007.1070
866PRV_se0_ag3_f_011007.2111Mm-hm.1007.6324
867PRV_int_011008.5250So you pretty much1009.3913
869 1010.0823played in your1010.8870 
871 1011.0906own yard [or neighbors?]1012.3449 
872PRV_se0_ag3_f_011011.7911[Y- y- our-]1012.4917
873 1012.6337my best friend, uh,1014.3235
875 1014.9509we would go from my best friend to someone else house to play, uh,1019.3815 
877 1019.9022ride bicycle or1021.2500 
878PRV_int_011021.4481Mm-hm.1021.6989
879PRV_se0_ag3_f_011021.6327something like that.1022.5415
880PRV_int_011022.5841Mm-hm.1023.0764
881PRV_se0_ag3_f_011023.5024There were no recreation here.1025.4620
882PRV_int_011025.6987Okay.1026.1768
883PRV_se0_ag3_f_011026.3282Mm-hm.1026.7022
884PRV_int_011027.3439And uh,1028.1959
886 1029.0243so then1029.8006 
888 1030.1272as you1030.7804 
890 1031.3342w- grew older, eventually you went to school in- in Tarboro. Did you end up having to go over to Tarboro a lot to do-1037.1401 
891PRV_se0_ag3_f_011037.0786Yes, uh, see,1038.3046
892 1039.0031like I said, when we1040.0208
894 1040.1865fin- completed fourth grade here,1041.8763 
895PRV_int_011041.9426Mm-hm.1042.2881
896PRV_se0_ag3_f_011042.6715we had to commute by bus1044.6501
898 1044.9132[to] the /RD-SCHOOL-8/.1046.7071 
899PRV_int_011044.9179[Mm.]1045.1972
900 1046.7119Mm-hm.1047.1616
901PRV_se0_ag3_f_011047.7532And, uh, that's where I graduated from.1050.1105
902PRV_int_011050.2099Okay. [That went all] the way [from-]1051.8362
903PRV_se0_ag3_f_011050.6454[Mm-hm.]1051.0950
905 1051.5664[Yes] that went all the way1052.6787 
906 1052.9959from fifth grade to twelfth.1054.4775
908 1054.7946[Mm-hm.]1055.1780 
909PRV_int_011054.9839[And-] and you said that was1056.1436
910 1056.5176still segregated schools?1058.3569
911PRV_se0_ag3_f_011058.4941Yes that was segregated at that time. And of course, there- there were recreation through the school system there. Like, uh,1065.7390
913 1065.8763<ts>1066.0041 
915 1066.2597the football, the basketball and the baseball.1068.8252 
916PRV_int_011069.0836Mm-hm.1069.5523
917PRV_se0_ag3_f_011069.6800Mm-hm.1070.0823
918PRV_int_011070.2243Okay.1070.6219
920 1071.4503Now do you rem- do you remember, um,1073.5519 
922 1074.0774the time of- of desegregation in this area?1076.8350 
924 1077.5923Um, what that was like or1079.0597 
926 1079.6087I guess you woulda been out of school at that time so it wouldn't have been-1082.7356 
927PRV_se0_ag3_f_011084.4775Well,1085.1969
929 1087.2114I'm one of those people can adapt to almost anything,1089.7390 
930PRV_int_011089.6586Mm-hm.1090.0988
931PRV_se0_ag3_f_011090.5059and as far as segregation goes1092.7258
933 1093.6043with me,1094.3427 
935 1096.9697I guess I never realized it was there based on the fact1100.3663 
937 1100.9438that from the time I was fourteen1103.2679 
938PRV_int_011103.3863Mm-hm.1103.7649
939PRV_se0_ag3_f_011105.7226<ts> I was in a- in a Jewish household.1108.3733
940PRV_int_011108.6242Oh okay.1109.1401
941PRV_se0_ag3_f_011109.7933By that I mean, I was-1111.2114
943 1111.7747they were teaching me how to cook1113.2894 
945 1113.8337Jewish- Jewish meals,1115.8075 
946PRV_int_011115.7129Uh-huh.1116.1200
947PRV_se0_ag3_f_011116.7022uh, I was doing the marketing for them.1118.8018
948PRV_int_011119.1190Okay.1119.5592
949PRV_se0_ag3_f_011119.7343My cousin had got me a job1121.4431
951 1121.7507with one of the1122.5933 
953 1123.4386r- most wealthy Jewish families1125.6112 
955 1125.9047in Tarboro.1126.6715 
956PRV_int_011126.6337Oh, [okay.]1127.6087
957PRV_se0_ag3_f_011127.3295[So] see recreation- I mean uh, segregation was a thing,1130.7166
958 1131.3793uh,1131.8148
960 1132.6337set aside for me because I wasn't really, you know,1135.2500 
962 1135.5001concentrating on it because1136.8586 
963PRV_int_011136.7782Mm-hm.1137.0906
964PRV_se0_ag3_f_011137.1474I was involved with these people and1139.0644
966 1139.2774they didn't treat me that way.1140.7002 
967PRV_int_011140.7164Mm.1140.9862
968PRV_se0_ag3_f_011141.6611Uh, as a matter of fact, uh,1143.9804
970 1144.5201Mr. /RD-NAME-2/1145.2774 
972 1146.7022the gentleman I worked for and his wife and family,1149.4124 
974 1151.2490everyday was Christmas with me with- sharing that- their household because they1155.2752 
976 1155.6633never1155.9615 
978 1156.1650failed to come from the store and bring me a gift or1158.8868 
980 1159.4954he was always calling me1161.0906 
982 1161.4929my little girl,1162.3970 
984 1162.5248you know?1162.9981 
986 1163.1117And- and I just know- I- I never had any recognition1165.8599 
988 1166.2669for that thing of segregation.1167.5970 
989PRV_int_011167.7627So it didn't impact you at-1169.0360
990PRV_se0_ag3_f_011169.0313No, not- not at all.1170.1720
991PRV_int_011170.1626Okay.1170.4418
992PRV_se0_ag3_f_011170.6150Mm-mm.1171.1120
993PRV_int_011171.5569Um,1172.0634
995 1172.5036and then- and so when the- when the area changed, it- it kind of- you kind of were isolated from that in terms of any1177.9403 
997 1178.4279changes or tension or [anything like that?]1180.4112 
998PRV_se0_ag3_f_011179.7390[<ts> Right.]1180.3923
999 1180.8514Right.1181.2348
1000PRV_int_011181.1496/Okay/.1181.4857
1001 1182.3566So then you-1182.8442
1003 1183.4055after high school1184.5699 
1005 1185.3509you w-1185.9047 
1007 1186.2076what- what did you do after that?1187.6419 
1008PRV_se0_ag3_f_011187.6229Well after high school I accepted a job over here as secretary to Mrs. /RD-NAME-5/.1194.1673
1009PRV_int_011194.5554Oh [okay.]1195.2500
1010PRV_se0_ag3_f_011194.8422[She was a] principal of the school,1196.4042
1011 1197.0858and I stayed there for two years.1198.8893
1013 1199.5993And1200.0490 
1015 1200.2383then1200.8063 
1017 1200.9558they set up1201.6327 
1019 1202.0208the1202.4373 
1021 1202.7403community college1203.8905 
1022PRV_int_011203.9000Mm.1204.3307
1023PRV_se0_ag3_f_011204.4112and I start taking classes there.1206.3898
1024PRV_int_011206.5696Mm-hm.1206.9436
1025PRV_se0_ag3_f_011207.0220And from there I went to East Carolina University.1209.7248
1026PRV_int_011209.8858Okay.1210.3118
1027PRV_se0_ag3_f_011210.5343And I had two years1211.7154
1029 1211.8036there in1212.4134 
1031 1212.7996Early Childhood Education.1214.7166 
1032PRV_int_011214.7450Oh, [okay.]1215.3036
1033PRV_se0_ag3_f_011215.0858[And this] is when I came back, and I organized the daycare center [here]1218.5886
1034PRV_int_011218.3424[Okay.]1218.8726
1035PRV_se0_ag3_f_011218.9984under /RD-WORK-6/.1220.4373
1036PRV_int_011220.6219Okay.1220.9864
1037PRV_se0_ag3_f_011221.0432Mm-hm.1221.4030
1038PRV_int_011221.7485And then you- so you came back from that training,1224.3424
1040 1224.6907started the daycare [center.]1225.9829 
1041PRV_se0_ag3_f_011225.6705[Yes.]1226.1959
1042PRV_int_011226.5367And how long were you involved in that?1228.1887
1043PRV_se0_ag3_f_011229.5425Well, [<laugh>] you gonna make me embarrass myself [now.]1233.3414
1044PRV_int_011230.4824[<laugh>]1231.2493
1046 1232.7592[Oh. <laugh>]1234.0041 
1047PRV_se0_ag3_f_011234.3449Let me tell you.1235.2395
1048PRV_int_011235.2064<laugh>1235.8123
1049PRV_se0_ag3_f_011235.6939I realize1236.8110
1050 1239.1568kids were not about me and I was most certainly not about them1242.8036
1051PRV_int_011242.8138[Okay.]1243.1830
1052PRV_se0_ag3_f_011243.0504[I had] a little boy that kicked me one day,1245.0432
1053PRV_int_011244.9533Aw.1245.4503
1054PRV_se0_ag3_f_011246.0041and I cried. I cried. I told, uh, the lead teacher that was1250.9722
1056 1251.2089w- w-1251.5876 
1058 1252.2124the other lead teacher,1253.1969 
1060 1253.5519I says,1254.0632 
1062 1254.2194you know,1254.5507 
1064 1254.7191I gotta go home.1255.5569 
1065PRV_int_011255.7794[<laugh>]1256.6407
1066PRV_se0_ag3_f_011256.0113[There is no] way1256.9202
1067 1257.2846I can stay here with this kid and not punish him- [<laugh>]1260.1436
1068PRV_int_011259.7981[<laugh>]1261.3211
1069PRV_se0_ag3_f_011261.4339So I went home and after that I- I just realized /this, hey,/ this is not about me, you know? I had worked with kids1268.5359
1070PRV_int_011268.4677Mm-hm.1268.8581
1071PRV_se0_ag3_f_011269.0101in the- well I'll say in the1270.3923
1073 1270.6384surrounding of kids, but I was a secretary. I didn't have any direct contact with them.1275.6302 
1075 1276.2644And, um,1276.8751 
1077 1277.1070would you believe it, I have since then sub1280.0350 
1079 1280.6314after the flood,1281.7485 
1081 1282.3300we're right at a year1283.3105 
1083 1283.6419and was begged to come back because of the tremendous job I had done.1287.5686 
1084PRV_int_011287.7532Oh.1288.0798
1086 1288.5769<laugh>1289.4383 
1087PRV_se0_ag3_f_011289.6513Can you believe it? I-1291.0173
1089 1291.3061I sit down sometimes over in my bedroom in the dark and I-1294.1745 
1091 1295.0029I says I- I don't believe these people say I done an excellent job.1298.4326 
1092PRV_int_011298.3285<laugh>1298.9533
1093PRV_se0_ag3_f_011299.3178And then I wouldn't stay in that profession when I was in it.1301.8312
1094PRV_int_011301.9874Mm-hm.1302.5554
1095PRV_se0_ag3_f_011302.7617So1303.2445
1097 1303.4007yes,1304.1912 
1099 1304.6030and that was not for me.1305.7816 
1100PRV_int_011305.8858Mm.1306.1603
1102 1306.3970But it sounds like you started something that went on to have an impact in-1310.0255 
1103PRV_se0_ag3_f_011310.1013Oh yes, oh yes. And- and I feel good about that. [I] feel1313.7271
1104PRV_int_011313.0265[Mm-hm.]1313.3437
1105PRV_se0_ag3_f_011314.1389most good about that.1315.6327
1107 1316.0303[Mm-hm.]1316.5273 
1108PRV_int_011316.1297[Great.]1316.4421
1109 1316.6267You1316.8492
1111 1317.0669learned quickly that it wasn't your calling. [<laugh>]1319.8312 
1112PRV_se0_ag3_f_011319.3768[Yes.]1320.0537
1113PRV_int_011320.0963<laugh>1320.9341
1114PRV_se0_ag3_f_011320.9274You know what it's like when a kid kick you [right here?]1323.5923
1115PRV_int_011322.8444[<laugh>]1324.2786
1116PRV_se0_ag3_f_011324.0846[And] then you-1324.8135
1117 1324.9839you grab it and he spat right up [there?]1327.5711
1118PRV_int_011327.0598[Oh.]1327.7321
1119PRV_se0_ag3_f_011328.0965<laugh> And you- and- and the lead teacher see what's going on- on the other side of the classroom. She comes in,1333.9829
1121 1334.3379she says1334.7734 
1123 1335.0243don't touch him, don't touch him.1336.3923 
1125 1336.8656<laugh>1337.7933 
1126PRV_int_011337.9590Wow.1338.5176
1127PRV_se0_ag3_f_011339.2445And tears were just running, and she says, go to the bathroom, go to the bathroom.1343.1023
1129 1343.4005Don't let him see you cry.1344.6596 
1130PRV_int_011344.6764<laugh>1345.3820
1131PRV_se0_ag3_f_011345.6516It was painful. I was little. I was skinny.1348.5343
1132PRV_int_011348.6810Mm.1349.2821
1133PRV_se0_ag3_f_011349.6939[So it-]1350.0253
1134PRV_int_011349.7129[You were?]1349.9827
1135PRV_se0_ag3_f_011350.2856it was hurting.1351.0930
1136PRV_int_011351.1404Yeah.1351.5664
1138 1352.1202Not too far out of school.1353.5402 
1140 1353.9284Yeah. That's- <laugh>1355.3769 
1142 1355.9164Wow. So then after that,1357.9167 
1144 1358.1959[you-]1358.5746 
1145PRV_se0_ag3_f_011358.4515[<ts>]1358.6267
1146 1359.1474Well,1360.1745
1148 1360.8893mm.1361.5141 
1150 1363.1498I did do some1364.5083 
1152 1364.7498special /tutoria/1366.3639 
1154 1367.2395reading1367.9117 
1155PRV_int_011368.6197[Mm.]1368.8185
1156PRV_se0_ag3_f_011368.6386[work] for the county.1370.0066
1157 1371.0006Then I decided I wanted me a job that would1374.0442
1159 1374.5365give me a year round income,1376.7640 
1160PRV_int_011376.7450Mm-hm.1377.2610
1161PRV_se0_ag3_f_011377.2373<ts>1377.3935
1162 1378.0467and, uh, I1379.3295
1164 1380.8043went with /RD-WORK-4/.1382.5083 
1165PRV_int_011382.8870Oh.1383.1000
1166PRV_se0_ag3_f_011383.5639And I managed nine departments for them for like about four years1387.6705
1167PRV_int_011387.6942Okay.1388.0776
1168PRV_se0_ag3_f_011388.5320cause1388.9486
1170 1390.0988I basically1391.1449 
1172 1391.7034just1392.0064 
1174 1392.2430you know,1392.6217 
1176 1393.4339looked into the stock being1395.5639 
1178 1396.1745plentiful and1397.1638 
1180 1399.0457help1399.3676 
1182 1400.1297with the register and all of that.1401.7864 
1183PRV_int_011401.8195Mm-hm.1402.1556
1184PRV_se0_ag3_f_011402.2929And so I stayed there.1403.3342
1185PRV_int_011403.7034This was a department store?1405.2161
1186PRV_se0_ag3_f_011405.2303[Yes.] /RD-WORK-4/.1406.8018
1187PRV_int_011405.5759[Okay.]1405.8930
1188PRV_se0_ag3_f_011407.5923Then I left there-1408.8561
1189PRV_int_011409.2727The- that was in Tarboro?1410.5176
1190PRV_se0_ag3_f_011410.5318Yes and I went to /RD-WORK-1/,1412.1439
1191PRV_int_011412.5083Okay.1412.9580
1192PRV_se0_ag3_f_011412.8586and then when I got to /RD-WORK-1/1414.4538
1193 1415.5093I left, and I been at the apartments every [since.]1418.3427
1194PRV_int_011418.2007[Okay.]1418.7119
1195PRV_se0_ag3_f_011419.5592That was truly my calling because1421.3626
1197 1421.8644in working with the apartments, I get to travel and train some other managers.1426.5153 
1198PRV_int_011426.4396Mm-hm.1427.0029
1199PRV_se0_ag3_f_011427.1638I also1428.4939
1201 1429.8078attend workshops and training sessions and1432.8041 
1203 1433.9590I- I thoroughly enjoy what I do now.1436.0198 
1204PRV_int_011436.1486Okay.1436.4847
1205PRV_se0_ag3_f_011436.5131I am flexible. I'm my own boss.1439.0833
1207 1439.6040And then at that time when I went to this job at the apartments I had a son,1444.3544 
1209 1445.3247uh, to leave home, and he went to /RD-SCHOOL-13/.1450.0609 
1210PRV_int_011449.9426Oh okay.1450.5521
1211PRV_se0_ag3_f_011450.6857So that- I- I really need the flexibility and [th-] all of this just1454.2461
1212PRV_int_011453.1563[Yeah.]1453.3768
1213PRV_se0_ag3_f_011454.3853fell right in place.1455.4124
1214PRV_int_011455.2894Mm.1455.6207
1215 1455.9710[Okay.]1456.3544
1216PRV_se0_ag3_f_011456.0846[Mm-hm.]1456.4633
1217PRV_int_011457.2348Now you said1457.7413
1219 1458.1748it was, uh,1458.7712 
1221 1459.1120after the first of the month that it got pretty busy?1461.7296 
1223 1462.5485<laugh>1463.5945 
1225 1463.8502What happens at that time? Do you just- you have- you have to collect all the rent and everything?1467.9804 
1226PRV_se0_ag3_f_011467.9899Well I collect rent.1469.5756
1228 1469.8123I rent apartments.1470.9889 
1230 1471.7510I do a lot of talking with people, interviews, and all that stuff.1475.1307 
1231PRV_int_011475.1969Aw.1475.6797
1232PRV_se0_ag3_f_011476.0490And1476.6075
1234 1476.9226believe me,1477.7037 
1236 1478.5415some people look at me1479.7438 
1238 1481.1638in action,1481.9164 
1240 1482.1436<laugh> put wheels in motion /is in/ my job.1484.4894 
1241PRV_int_011484.6551Mm-hm.1485.0385
1242PRV_se0_ag3_f_011485.2610And they says, how do you do it? (whispered)1486.7567
1244 1487.5425I couldn't remember half of the stuff you talk about to these people.1490.6627 
1245PRV_int_011490.6740Yeah.1491.0953
1246PRV_se0_ag3_f_011491.4740But,1491.8763
1248 1492.1698you know, I love people.1493.3247 
1249PRV_int_011493.3957Mm.1493.6939
1250PRV_se0_ag3_f_011493.8170I'm a- I'm a people person.1495.2256
1251PRV_int_011495.2398Mm-hm.1495.6516
1252PRV_se0_ag3_f_011496.4231I guess that's the reason I'm still a commissioner.1498.4964
1253PRV_int_011498.6242Yeah.1499.0786
1255 1499.5661Well that's what I was gonna ask you too is1501.2500 
1257 1501.8693how you-1502.2717 
1259 1502.5178when1502.9912 
1261 1503.2089uh,1503.5544 
1263 1504.0704you decided to get into politics?1506.2110 
1264PRV_se0_ag3_f_011506.5507Well back in nineteen eighty eight I had a young lady that was1510.1887
1266 1510.6621renting an apartment from me,1512.2525 
1268 1512.6765and she d- decided that she was going to leave the area.1516.0988 
1269PRV_int_011516.4680Mm-hm.1516.7378
1270PRV_se0_ag3_f_011517.6561Uh, she at the time was representing ward two of Princeville.1521.1000
1271PRV_int_011521.2089Mm-hm.1521.5686
1272PRV_se0_ag3_f_011521.6160<ts>1521.7864
1274 1522.0656And she moved I think down1523.6513 
1276 1524.1342Georgia or Florida somewhere,1525.9924 
1277PRV_int_011526.0397Mkay.1526.5557
1278PRV_se0_ag3_f_011526.6740and, uh,1527.4929
1280 1528.2929/RD-NAME-5/,1529.3626 
1282 1529.6987a dear friend and the mayor at that time,1532.3001 
1284 1533.1663uh,1533.5686 
1286 1534.0088called me and asked me would I1535.7176 
1288 1536.1058complete her term.1537.2958 
1289PRV_int_011537.7557Hm.1538.0066
1290PRV_se0_ag3_f_011538.1865And I said yes,1539.3225
1292 1540.5627without thinking.1541.4904 
1293PRV_int_011541.7260<laugh>1542.5791
1294PRV_se0_ag3_f_011542.5676And <laugh> from1543.7652
1295 1545.5734then1546.0467
1297 1546.2786through present, I been there.1547.8312 
1298PRV_int_011547.9590Okay.1548.4229
1299PRV_se0_ag3_f_011548.8138Mm-hm.1549.2493
1300PRV_int_011549.3913And-1549.6942
1302 1550.0634and what has that experience been like?1551.7296 
1303PRV_se0_ag3_f_011552.8088<sigh>1553.9780
1305 1554.9179It's been beautiful.1555.8362 
1306PRV_int_011556.0113Really?1556.3379
1307PRV_se0_ag3_f_011556.9959It has because, you know,1558.0798
1309 1558.7899uh, from ninety-1560.1484 
1311 1560.8848three, ninety four (whispering)1561.6043 
1313 1561.8267ninety four, ninety five, ninety six (whispering)-1563.4408 
1315 1564.0041Well1564.3307 
1317 1565.3768ninety two I believe it was, I left office.1568.2433 
1319 1568.9580I decided that when /RD-NAME-2/ was gonna leave1571.4809 
1321 1572.2004his mayorship1573.1735 
1323 1573.7983I no longer wanted to be there.1575.8290 
1324PRV_int_011575.8858Mm-hm.1576.3544
1325PRV_se0_ag3_f_011576.7993And then after1577.9070
1327 1578.7522uh, /RD-NAME-3/ came in and they1580.8444 
1329 1581.3225took our finance records and everything1583.5614 
1330PRV_int_011583.7365Mm.1584.1389
1331PRV_se0_ag3_f_011584.4844and we fell in the hand of1586.1344
1333 1586.6740total disaster and it wasn't a flood,1588.8703 
1335 1589.6371I decided I had to go back.1591.5848 
1336PRV_int_011591.7415<laugh>1592.4515
1337PRV_se0_ag3_f_011592.5036So that's when I learned how much I love Princeville.1595.3437
1338PRV_int_011595.4005Mm-hm.1595.8880
1339PRV_se0_ag3_f_011596.5460And1597.1045
1341 1597.3960I went back,1598.3947 
1343 1599.5544and I'm still there.1600.8419 
1344PRV_int_011601.0549Hm.1601.2679
1346 1603.6421And you were here1604.6077 
1348 1605.2231during the flood?1606.0372 
1349PRV_se0_ag3_f_011606.4112Yes.1607.0360
1350PRV_int_011607.0597So that kind of threw you into action as well?1609.7944
1351PRV_se0_ag3_f_011610.2575Oh yes.1611.0338
1352PRV_int_011611.6964And what was that time like? Both as a commissioner and a- as a1615.1376
1354 1615.6658citizen?1616.3001 
1355PRV_se0_ag3_f_011617.5876Well, uh,1618.8656
1357 1620.6008<ts>1620.7002 
1359 1621.4575when the flood came,1622.6361 
1361 1624.9461I was1625.6277 
1363 1625.9117feeling1626.5176 
1365 1626.9510very good about Princeville.1628.8965 
1366PRV_int_011629.3724Mm-hm.1629.7236
1367PRV_se0_ag3_f_011629.9378We had a million dollars1631.3437
1369 1632.8347in the1633.2682 
1371 1634.6456bank.1635.2752 
1373 1635.9662Our general funds were looking really good. I mean,1639.5853 
1375 1640.1013we were- Let me say like this, I felt like we were in power. [<laugh>]1644.9010 
1376PRV_int_011643.7120[Mm.]1643.9877
1378 1644.5582[<laugh>]1644.9416 
1379PRV_se0_ag3_f_011645.3913And1645.8173
1381 1646.0492we were going places, doing [things.]1648.4964 
1382PRV_int_011648.3923[Yeah.]1648.6147
1383PRV_se0_ag3_f_011648.6668Princeville was shining. It was glowing.1651.0883
1384PRV_int_011651.0646Mm-hm.1651.5427
1385PRV_se0_ag3_f_011652.1202And1652.6172
1387 1653.5923then one night,1654.8041 
1389 1656.3898I realized1657.1376 
1391 1657.8693it was raining. Then the next day it was still raining.1660.7662 
1392PRV_int_011660.9508Mm.1661.2490
1393PRV_se0_ag3_f_011661.5425Then by the evening it was still raining.1663.8930
1394PRV_int_011664.0019Mm.1664.3095
1395PRV_se0_ag3_f_011664.9060And1665.3320
1397 1666.2502I'm nervously just sitting there.1668.2288 
1399 1669.2729And I get a call from1670.6503 
1401 1671.2988the mayor,1671.9662 
1403 1672.4207and she's- she's telling me I need to get my people out.1675.1262 
1404PRV_int_011675.4197Mm.1675.8173
1405PRV_se0_ag3_f_011676.7734So-1677.3320
1406PRV_int_011678.1130This was like,1678.9887
1408 1679.5425Thursday?1680.0679 
1409PRV_se0_ag3_f_011680.0821This was on a Thursday.1681.3534
1410PRV_int_011681.2682Okay.1681.6137
1411PRV_se0_ag3_f_011682.1391So I sat there and I'm,1683.7769
1413 1684.1461well I don't-1684.8088 
1415 1685.6252where I'm gonna tell these people to go?1687.4197 
1416PRV_int_011687.7226Hm.1687.9451
1417PRV_se0_ag3_f_011688.4089So by this time, the phone was ringing again. It was my brother-in-law1691.7034
1419 1692.6008and a nephew.1693.5333 
1421 1693.7084They were calling me1694.7829 
1423 1695.8479to let me know that I really need to get serious and get my people out.1698.9862 
1424PRV_int_011699.1120Mm.1699.4124
1425PRV_se0_ag3_f_011699.3392But see1699.8125
1426 1700.4421the hang up came1701.5781
1428 1702.0088because I had been calling the sheriff department1704.4020 
1430 1704.6197inquiring about the water1706.1770 
1431PRV_int_011706.3805Mm-hm.1706.7119
1432PRV_se0_ag3_f_011706.9533and they couldn't tell me anything or they wouldn't tell me anything1709.8170
1434 1710.0490<ts>1710.1768 
1436 1710.4418but nevertheless,1711.2919 
1438 1711.9687I decided I had to do what had to be done, so1714.4585 
1440 1714.9981neglecting myself,1716.3519 
1442 1716.5270I leap from that chair in the office1719.0574 
1444 1719.3036cause I was living in the apartment1720.8277 
1446 1721.1543next to the office.1722.3424 
1447PRV_int_011722.4114Mm.1722.6055
1448PRV_se0_ag3_f_011722.6150I was a site manager at th- what they called me at that time.1725.3888
1450 1726.0136So, uh, my husband,1727.7318 
1452 1727.9969he was on-1728.5128 
1454 1729.0930he had just retired. He had just retired, bless his heart.1732.1603 
1455PRV_int_011732.2739Mm-hm.1732.6147
1456PRV_se0_ag3_f_011732.9082And we went out and we were1734.4229
1458 1735.7889banging on doors because my sister, being a nervous wreck as she can become,1739.7129 
1460 1740.0158we had gone to her house and gotten her and brought her over there.1742.5462 
1462 1742.8444So all of us got out and we went around and banged and beat on the windows and the doors to alert all the people1748.7071 
1464 1749.0006that they needed to get out.1750.2313 
1465PRV_int_011750.4301Mm-hm.1750.7757
1466PRV_se0_ag3_f_011751.4857And I went through a lot of insults but I can deal with that. I had par- I had mothers to come over there to see about their daughters after1758.3188
1468 1758.6217they got on the phone and called 'em and told 'em I said they needed to leave.1761.7485 
1469PRV_int_011761.9284Mm.1762.4680
1470PRV_se0_ag3_f_011762.5627And uh, they cursed me and they- [<laugh>]1765.2500
1471PRV_int_011764.4635[<laugh>]1765.2777
1472PRV_se0_ag3_f_011765.4007they verbally abused me but I got over it.1767.7154
1473PRV_int_011767.6680Okay.1768.0988
1474PRV_se0_ag3_f_011768.4207But I got 'em all out1769.9874
1476 1770.7901but one little lady,1771.8883 
1478 1772.0445one of my elderlies,1773.5828 
1480 1774.5485and she refused to leave. She said she was gonna wait for her son.1777.9687 
1481PRV_int_011778.2575Hm.1778.5225
1482PRV_se0_ag3_f_011779.2420So I guess1780.5390
1484 1781.1969she waited for her son and the next morning, I understand his1784.2149 
1486 1784.5604vehicle drowned in the water.1786.2692 
1487PRV_int_011786.3355Wow.1786.6337
1488PRV_se0_ag3_f_011786.7378Uh, the mo- the engine drowned in the water and he just did get her out of there in time but1791.3840
1490 1791.7343later I was told by the police that I'd done the best thing1795.2303 
1492 1795.6516not to1796.3616 
1494 1796.5131force her out1797.3698 
1496 1798.3270because she had her rights.1799.8833 
1497PRV_int_011799.9638[Mm-hm.]1800.4286
1498PRV_se0_ag3_f_011800.1010[And I] woulda been in the wrong. So today I'm happy I didn't touch her.1803.3556
1499PRV_int_011803.4456Mm-hm.1803.9804
1500PRV_se0_ag3_f_011804.4585And, uh, I'm very happy to say that she's still alive and well too.1808.5557
1502 1809.3509[But-]1809.7343 
1503PRV_int_011809.5781[Do you] remember her name?1810.5816
1504PRV_se0_ag3_f_011810.7804Uh, her name was, uh,1812.2951
1506 1812.6292<ts>1812.8043 
1508 1813.0220/RD-NAME-4/.1814.3332 
1509PRV_int_011814.3190Okay.1814.8539
1510PRV_se0_ag3_f_011814.9391Mm-hm.1815.4314
1512 1815.6444<ts>1815.8242 
1514 1816.1792So1816.6810 
1516 1817.0739I about-1817.5283 
1518 1817.6845I- I guess it played on my conscious that I didn't get her out and1821.2941 
1520 1821.7674things being as they were and the water staying in here so long,1824.9644 
1522 1825.0594I didn't get to see any of my people.1827.1284 
1524 1827.3036Any- as- as my husband say, any of your folks.1829.9117 
1525PRV_int_011830.0490Hm. [<laugh>]1830.8300
1526PRV_se0_ag3_f_011830.6434[So]1831.2209
1527 1831.6232one day I happen to go the clinic1833.8432
1529 1834.6005and when I turn around,1835.8359 
1531 1836.7049here this lady stands.1838.1865 
1533 1838.3900Oh I almost picked her up.1840.1082 
1534PRV_int_011840.1177Mm. <laugh>1841.2632
1535PRV_se0_ag3_f_011841.6892Cause really in the back of my heart, it had been troubling me just how she was getting along, you know.1847.4951
1537 1848.2241And so she's fine.1849.7131 
1538PRV_int_011849.8267Great.1850.2054
1539PRV_se0_ag3_f_011850.3237She is great. I'm doing just fine, I'm telling you, so1853.4099
1541 1853.8738that was a relief.1854.8347 
1543 1855.2824But1855.9214 
1545 1858.3213I suffered because1860.0963 
1547 1860.8374I couldn't1861.6043 
1549 1862.4989bring myself to focus on1864.3591 
1551 1865.2490the town,1866.0348 
1553 1866.2856[so]1866.8489 
1554PRV_int_011866.3188[Mm.]1866.5412
1555PRV_se0_ag3_f_011867.8693I was down with my sister and her1870.0278
1557 1870.2218fiance.1870.9934 
1559 1871.9590<ts> That's where all my family went1873.3581 
1561 1873.8599when we left the mall that night, we went there to his house.1877.5567 
1562PRV_int_011877.8644So you got- you got out in plenty of time [then?]1880.0681
1563PRV_se0_ag3_f_011879.8788[Yes.]1880.4042
1564 1880.8823Yes.1881.3888
1565PRV_int_011881.2704[/?/]1881.5828
1566PRV_se0_ag3_f_011881.5497We- we only lost all of our household furnishing.1884.6028
1567PRV_int_011884.7637Mm.1885.0903
1568PRV_se0_ag3_f_011885.3061And, um,1886.2622
1570 1887.5450I'm gonna make you laugh.1888.5769 
1571PRV_int_011888.7662Okay.1889.2585
1572PRV_se0_ag3_f_011889.3058And, um,1889.9306
1574 1890.0652<ts>1890.1737 
1576 1890.4635we even lost some money in the flood, but1892.4231 
1578 1892.5462we came back later and we recovered that.1894.6668 
1579PRV_int_011894.8987Really?1895.2537
1581 1896.0348How- [/inaudible/]1897.0240 
1582PRV_se0_ag3_f_011896.5365[My husband] had just gotten his income tax check,1899.2184
1583PRV_int_011899.2657Uh-huh.1899.6775
1584PRV_se0_ag3_f_011899.6728and, um, we had a-1900.7425
1585 1901.5709a bar that sat1902.7069
1587 1902.9037center of one of the [walls in] the dining area. And he had s- left the check up there1907.6797 
1588PRV_int_011904.3900[Uh.]1904.6456
1589PRV_se0_ag3_f_011907.9212and some more cash money from [rent.]1910.1060
1590PRV_int_011909.9640[Mm-hm.]1910.3379
1591PRV_se0_ag3_f_011910.4375<ts>1910.5393
1593 1911.0101And, um, we came back- you wouldn't believe it- we1913.6939 
1595 1913.9543got everything cleaned out of the apartment, and he was going in the bathroom.1917.8242 
1597 1919.1543And he had given up on the money,1921.0193 
1599 1921.5475so1922.0350 
1601 1922.5604he w- goes in the bathroom and he happened to look.1925.3105 
1603 1926.3472Here lay the Bible,1927.6279 
1605 1929.2278the envelope,1930.1792 
1607 1931.8549resting beside it1932.9862 
1609 1933.7557the money1934.3853 
1611 1934.5509scattered about1935.5166 
1613 1936.2834a foot around1937.1780 
1615 1937.7318in that same area.1938.9341 
1616PRV_int_011939.5380Crazy.1940.1912
1618 1941.1142Just laying there.1941.8716 
1619PRV_se0_ag3_f_011941.8858Just laying there, waiting for us to come and get it. [<laugh>]1944.8394
1620PRV_int_011944.1152[Wow. (laughing)]1945.3723
1621PRV_se0_ag3_f_011945.7415But you know when I came over here and went in that apartment,1949.1070
1622PRV_int_011949.6182Uh-huh.1950.0632
1623PRV_se0_ag3_f_011950.4560I told my husband,1951.5475
1625 1951.8646I said it looks just like the devil himself got up in here and made a stew.1955.8502 
1626PRV_int_011955.9401Mm.1956.2430
1627PRV_se0_ag3_f_011957.1641And1957.6800
1629 1957.8267my- I- I wouldn't have never believed that1960.1035 
1631 1960.6763furniture on top of furniture.1962.8232 
1633 1963.8835Our big nice console TV,1966.2550 
1635 1967.2111I think it was standing on its side, resting on the [side.]1970.3805 
1636PRV_int_011970.1817[Uh-huh.]1970.5888
1637PRV_se0_ag3_f_011971.2657Uh,1971.7154
1639 1972.4301but, you know,1973.1969 
1641 1973.4289I- like I say, the flood, it really never t-1976.0303 
1643 1976.2338dawned on me how1977.6160 
1645 1979.0265devastating our situation was [until,]1981.9072 
1646PRV_int_011981.0978[Mm.]1981.3581
1647PRV_se0_ag3_f_011983.3982uh,1983.8668
1649 1985.9780I realized one day they called me and said we got to meet, we gotta1989.1568 
1651 1989.3414decide what we gonna do about our town.1991.3295 
1652PRV_int_011991.3815Mm.1991.5993
1653PRV_se0_ag3_f_011992.8678And my husband say, you gotta go to the meeting /RD-NAME-1/.1995.9142
1655 1996.2692Cause I was going around in a daze you know.1998.6501 
1656PRV_int_011998.6406Mm.1998.9956
1657PRV_se0_ag3_f_011999.2919So I got dressed and I went to the meeting.2001.6018
1659 2001.7864All these2002.3733 
1661 2002.7662Corps of Engineers2003.7886 
1663 2003.9732people and everybody there to2005.6043 
1665 2006.2054talk with us and ask-2007.7958 
1667 2007.9426answer any questions that we had to ask.2010.0679 
1669 2011.2919And, uh,2011.9593 
1671 2014.2408I realized then,2015.4099 
1673 2015.8786hey,2016.5081 
1675 2018.8066you and the citizens of Princeville2020.6715 
1677 2021.0691have no town and you gotta make some decisions about your town.2024.5557 
1678PRV_int_012024.7829[Mm.]2025.0290
1679PRV_se0_ag3_f_012024.8444[So] you gotta stick with these other commissioners and the mayor.2027.7697
1680 2028.5128So after that I got involved2030.6787
1682 2031.5923but2032.0278 
1684 2032.1745then finally one day uh, they told us we could come back to Princeville,2035.7747 
1685PRV_int_012036.0255Mm-hm.2036.3711
1686PRV_se0_ag3_f_012036.8776and, uh, when I came over here,2038.7899
1688 2039.2017it's still like- it was just like I was dreaming, you know?2041.5853 
1689PRV_int_012041.6800Yeah. Mm-hm.2042.4301
1690PRV_se0_ag3_f_012042.5793And2043.0811
1692 2043.9284my husband said we gotta clean up. We got to start2046.3992 
1694 2047.8646doing things.2048.7687 
1695PRV_int_012048.8634Mm-hm.2049.2184
1696PRV_se0_ag3_f_012049.8148And I didn't realize it2051.0076
1698 2051.5377until the people came in2053.1187 
1700 2054.9864from up in Pennsylvania and2056.6952 
1702 2057.4667they start2058.1105 
1704 2058.6264helping me clean out2059.7841 
1706 2060.3521my furniture and2061.7012 
1708 2062.7189it still didn't dawn on me until they brought my piano out2065.4481 
1710 2066.8208and, you know, I- here I am,2068.9508 
1712 2069.1543I've watch one son2070.6264 
1714 2071.7557in college play that piano,2073.3698 
1716 2074.1082learned to play there in that living room on that piano.2076.5270 
1717PRV_int_012076.7211Mm.2076.9767
1718PRV_se0_ag3_f_012076.9842And here's2077.6327
1720 2077.7794his son now learning to use it,2079.6917 
1722 2080.3544and when they brought that piano out, it was something about that way that piano just-2084.4799 
1724 2085.1379the legs just folded up.2086.8230 
1726 2087.5993And oh, I just start boohooing.2089.6705 
1727PRV_int_012089.7841Hm.2090.0539
1728PRV_se0_ag3_f_012090.6030That was the first time I cried.2091.9615
1729PRV_int_012092.1362Really?2092.4727
1730PRV_se0_ag3_f_012093.2253The very first time.2094.6075
1731PRV_int_012094.6548Mm.2094.9436
1732PRV_se0_ag3_f_012095.8220And, uh, I realized then that everything was gone.2098.9555
1733PRV_int_012099.1780Yeah.2099.5235
1734PRV_se0_ag3_f_012101.0599And I cried and I got it over with and2103.7769
1736 2105.3484the little ladies from up there,2107.4055 
1738 2107.7463they brought out various things and asked me if I wanted to save them.2111.3768 
1740 2112.5223And I told /her/, I didn't know.2113.9640 
1742 2114.1675I just didn't know.2115.1000 
1743PRV_int_012115.3320Mm.2115.6586
1744PRV_se0_ag3_f_012116.4443And-2116.9224
1746 2118.1389[an-]2118.4087 
1747PRV_int_012118.1578[But up] until that point, you hadn't- it hadn't really hit [you yet.]2120.7687
1748PRV_se0_ag3_f_012120.4373[It- it] hadn't really hit me.2121.8195
1749 2121.9520I was attending the meetings concerning the town.2124.2951
1751 2125.1593but when they brought that piano out and, uh,2127.5970 
1753 2129.3342I realized2130.0774 
1755 2130.8138I was looking s- s- so forward to my little grandson playing that piano2135.6277 
1757 2135.9590because he had start stroking2137.6895 
1759 2138.3332the keyboard you know?2139.3414 
1760PRV_int_012139.4740Mm-hm.2139.9899
1761PRV_se0_ag3_f_012140.3260And= and when they brought that piano out,2142.6359
1763 2142.8658it was just like,2143.7321 
1765 2144.2480ooh.2144.7024 
1767 2145.9899The rain came back.2147.1638 
1768PRV_int_012147.1638Mm.2147.4478
1769PRV_se0_ag3_f_012149.4907And I'm saving this space hopefully I'll get one.2152.0988
1770PRV_int_012152.2266Okay.2152.7189
1771PRV_se0_ag3_f_012152.8419<laugh> Get another one anyway.2155.0950
1772PRV_int_012155.3155Mm.2155.6232
1773PRV_se0_ag3_f_012156.0255But, uh,2156.5793
1775 2157.5686it- that was2158.3733 
1777 2158.7047really2159.1922 
1779 2159.4241the most devastating point.2160.8962 
1780PRV_int_012161.3392Mm-hm.2161.7321
1781PRV_se0_ag3_f_012162.9344A realization2164.0230
1783 2164.4396of that flood right there and then for me.2166.8773 
1784PRV_int_012167.2019Mm.2167.4954
1785PRV_se0_ag3_f_012167.9451Out of all that, I realize2169.9852
1787 2170.3307that we're gone,2171.2963 
1789 2172.2998it was2172.7779 
1791 2173.0031not2173.4433 
1793 2174.2338real to me until that moment.2175.9331 
1794PRV_int_012176.1603Yeah.2176.4349
1795PRV_se0_ag3_f_012178.2383So2178.7116
1797 2179.2966I'm still-2179.9593 
1799 2181.1237sometimes I think about it. I go right to that2183.4999 
1801 2183.9685very /pont/- point to realize.2186.2480 
1803 2186.6929And, uh, believe me, we were dreaming about going to Hawaii, doing all those glamorous things with our savings2193.1758 
1804PRV_int_012193.3036Mm-hm.2193.7390
1805PRV_se0_ag3_f_012193.7106and now you see our savings.2195.6987
1806PRV_int_012195.8928Okay.2196.4114
1807PRV_se0_ag3_f_012198.3569This is it.2198.9770
1808PRV_int_012199.1237Okay.2199.6775
1810 2199.9899Well it's2200.6479 
1812 2201.5046gone to good use. It's a2202.9578 
1814 2203.2682[beautiful home.]2204.0539 
1815PRV_se0_ag3_f_012203.4386[Yes.]2203.9640
1816 2204.1959Thank you but2205.0006
1818 2205.8526I- I got busy and made up my mind that2208.6596 
1820 2208.9794I didn't know anything-2210.3237 
1822 2212.0609I didn't know any place else but Princeville.2214.8820 
1823PRV_int_012215.0883Mm-hm.2215.4575
1824PRV_se0_ag3_f_012215.9167And2216.3001
1826 2216.9912this was gonna still be my home.2218.5911 
1827PRV_int_012219.2395Yeah, I was gonna say that-2220.7901
1829 2220.9652that whole decision again as a commissioner2223.4172 
1831 2223.5639voting but also just as a citizen in [terms-]2225.8961 
1832PRV_se0_ag3_f_012225.8028[As] a citizen,2226.7258
1833PRV_int_012226.7854where you wanted to live-2228.0113
1834PRV_se0_ag3_f_012228.2101I realized then that2229.5828
1836 2233.7321God was trying to tell us something.2235.8952 
1837PRV_int_012236.2692Hm.2236.5348
1838PRV_se0_ag3_f_012237.6797And, uh,2238.3708
1840 2239.8362me,2240.3383 
1842 2240.6456I got the message.2241.9662 
1844 2242.9697I realized what the message was from dealing with2245.6185 
1846 2246.1439all those people2247.2231 
1848 2247.6822that I worked with2248.8419 
1850 2249.3247day to day2250.0395 
1852 2250.2884in that2250.6860 
1854 2250.8469one little complex.2252.4184 
1855PRV_int_012252.4137Mm.2252.6835
1856PRV_se0_ag3_f_012252.7450I got the message.2253.9047
1858 2254.8467And I know- I knew too also2257.5096 
1860 2257.8362that2258.2669 
1862 2258.4894Princeville could not be Princeville any place else2261.8170 
1864 2262.0206but here.2262.7542 
1866 2264.2291See you- they could tell us to move down the highway about eleven [miles,]2267.9117 
1867PRV_int_012267.7365[Mm-hm.]2268.0916
1868PRV_se0_ag3_f_012268.6670eight miles or2269.8788
1870 2270.2149six miles or five miles, that wouldn't be Princeville.2273.4241 
1871PRV_int_012273.6040Mm.2273.8075
1872PRV_se0_ag3_f_012273.7365This is Princeville.2275.3297
1873PRV_int_012275.4623Mm.2275.7747
1874PRV_se0_ag3_f_012277.6870And I knew that I would not vote for anything but to come back home because this was all I've known all of my life.2284.2502
1875PRV_int_012285.7271Mm.2285.9543
1877 2287.6090Yeah.2287.9735 
1879 2288.2007Ex- explain- tell me a little bit more about what you mean. Like,2291.2443 
1881 2291.9543the significance of this piece of land2294.3095 
1883 2294.6551here.2294.9628 
1884PRV_se0_ag3_f_012296.6763Uh, you know,2297.6229
1886 2298.5886you- you can't move history.2300.2385 
1887PRV_int_012300.3616Mm.2300.6361
1888PRV_se0_ag3_f_012303.5188You can't move history.2304.7637
1889PRV_int_012304.8848Mm-hm.2305.2895
1890PRV_se0_ag3_f_012305.2871And I- I've known all of my life that2307.3556
1891 2308.3260right across here,2309.5425
1893 2313.0196where the school is2314.3213 
1895 2314.7899and on back, I can remember when there were cotton fields over there.2318.2149 
1896PRV_int_012318.2433Okay.2318.6361
1897PRV_se0_ag3_f_012318.9249I can remember right down here at this corner,2321.2017
1899 2321.6087there used to be a lumber yard.2323.3771 
1900PRV_int_012323.5853Hm.2323.8646
1901PRV_se0_ag3_f_012324.3427And this was Princeville.2325.5544
1902PRV_int_012325.7438Mm-hm.2326.2408
1903PRV_se0_ag3_f_012328.3282See you can't take me to a new landmark2330.7734
1905 2331.0054and I stand there and look around and say well,2333.8549 
1907 2334.5412there used to be this here and there used to be that here,2337.0906 
1909 2337.3746but you know because2338.2834 
1911 2339.2017these things were never there. This is the original s- landmarking for these [things.]2344.0656 
1912PRV_int_012343.8716[Mm-hm.]2344.3165
1913PRV_se0_ag3_f_012344.5863So we have to preserve them.2346.1815
1914PRV_int_012346.2762Mm-hm.2346.6785
1916 2347.1877Mm-hm.2347.5427 
1917PRV_se0_ag3_f_012347.6658That school over there, that's where I went from one through fourth grade.2351.2159
1918PRV_int_012351.4431Right.2351.7413
1919PRV_se0_ag3_f_012352.1957And no one can take that building and carry it no place2354.7640
1921 2355.4550and change my memories.2356.7804 
1923 2357.4241I can remember stopping in /RD-NAME-2/ store every morning before I got on the school [bus.]2362.0798 
1924PRV_int_012361.9568[Uh-huh.]2362.4065
1925PRV_se0_ag3_f_012362.4159See those are things nobody can take away from you.2364.8110
1927 2365.4575They can't take you down the road and say we're gonna bring /RD-NAME-2/ store and place it right here.2369.3673 
1929 2371.9687It-2372.1700 
1931 2372.3159it will change2373.2042 
1933 2373.5071the whole concept2375.0029 
1935 2375.6229of the history.2376.4702 
1936PRV_int_012376.7712Yeah.2377.0646
1938 2378.5888Huh.2378.8681 
1939PRV_se0_ag3_f_012379.7674So this has to be Princeville.2381.1023
1940PRV_int_012381.3721Mm-hm.2381.7034
1942 2382.4466Mm-hm.2382.9104 
1944 2383.8220Wow.2384.1912 
1945PRV_se0_ag3_f_012384.2622The old people that I remember that used to live here,2386.8703
1947 2387.8028uh, in the little one room shacks,2389.7415 
1948PRV_int_012391.3556Okay.2391.7958
1949PRV_se0_ag3_f_012392.6479the old people that I- I can remember getting on the cotton trucks and my grandmother2397.1616
1950PRV_int_012397.5213Mm-hm.2398.0684
1951PRV_se0_ag3_f_012399.2253uh, the places that2400.4919
1953 2401.3960my church today used to sat2403.6822 
1954PRV_int_012404.2455Okay.2404.6668
1955PRV_se0_ag3_f_012405.1685before it was moved2406.5602
1957 2406.9558to where it's located now.2408.4941 
1958PRV_int_012408.8160Which-2409.1616
1960 2409.5450which church?2410.1934 
1961PRV_se0_ag3_f_012410.3875Macedonia [Baptist.]2411.7223
1962PRV_int_012411.5330[Okay.]2411.9423
1963PRV_se0_ag3_f_012412.1247Macedonia's the next oldest church in Princeville.2414.5462
1964PRV_int_012414.7450Okay.2415.1048
1965PRV_se0_ag3_f_012415.2184Mm-hm.2415.6018
1966PRV_int_012415.6349And it was a bit- it was moved-2417.0029
1967PRV_se0_ag3_f_012417.1165You know where it used to sat?2418.1673
1969 2418.6954Do you know where, uh,2419.9167 
1971 2420.4231the- the, uh,2421.6586 
1973 2422.5816I think it's the uh- it's uh-2424.0963 
1975 2425.6137what is it? Uh,2426.5699 
1977 2428.0230there's some kind of a shop right there at the stop light?2430.6548 
1978PRV_int_012431.2445Mm. Right [off of sixty four?]2432.6361
1979PRV_se0_ag3_f_012431.7084[Uh, Lynch's-] Yeah, that-2433.3935
1980 2434.0183right off sixty [four going back] out the bypass.2436.5464
1981PRV_int_012435.0123[Okay.]2435.4525
1982 2436.6244Uh-huh.2437.0599
1983PRV_se0_ag3_f_012437.1404You know, that, uh, dwelling in uh- what is it?2439.8290
1985 2440.4207/??/ Place right there on that corner?2442.4182 
1986PRV_int_012443.4386Think so, yeah.2444.1381
1987PRV_se0_ag3_f_012444.3758There used to be a big old2446.2408
1989 2446.4822gin house thing, like a building there [that used] to have a occupy-2449.7889 
1990PRV_int_012448.4919[Mm-hm.]2448.7996
1991PRV_se0_ag3_f_012450.1013a s- it used to2450.9154
1993 2451.1852well, house a store.2452.6431 
1995 2453.1401Our church used to sit back down in that2455.7321 
1997 2456.2859lower area behind there.2458.0893 
1998PRV_int_012458.0940Oh.2458.3023
1999PRV_se0_ag3_f_012458.2597See what I'm saying about history? You can't-2459.7460
2000 2460.7664and- <laugh> and they moved our church.2462.5935
2001PRV_int_012462.7024Okay.2463.1474
2002PRV_se0_ag3_f_012463.7769They brought it out and, uh, they put it over here on this corner where it is today.2468.2149
2003PRV_int_012468.2622Okay.2468.7214
2004PRV_se0_ag3_f_012468.9438And then when the flood came in and got it,2470.6905
2006 2471.0218we still put it right back there.2473.1214 
2007PRV_int_012473.1167[Mm-hm.]2473.6232
2008PRV_se0_ag3_f_012473.2729[See?]2473.6279
2009PRV_int_012474.0161Yeah.2474.3474
2011 2476.5390Exactly.2477.2537 
2013 2478.7211So they'll- so those2480.3332 
2015 2481.8479landmarks- those-2483.0171 
2017 2483.4667those physical locations for you, that's what2486.2291 
2019 2486.9675Princeville is.2487.8148 
2020PRV_se0_ag3_f_012487.7864That's what Princeville is.2488.9934
2021 2489.3011And I can remember the big church Saint Luke2491.4007
2022PRV_int_012491.5948[Mm-hm.]2492.0303
2023PRV_se0_ag3_f_012491.8930[Disciples,]2492.5699
2024 2493.0196it used to sat2494.0704
2026 2494.9177right down here2496.0300 
2028 2496.2809on uh, Mutual Boulevard,2497.6895 
2029PRV_int_012497.8125[Okay.]2498.1249
2030PRV_se0_ag3_f_012497.9924[right]2498.4231
2031 2499.1852off of the river.2500.1650
2032PRV_int_012500.6715Really?2500.9650
2033PRV_se0_ag3_f_012501.2537Really. And see these are things that I grew up2503.8315
2035 2504.3285knowing.2504.8255 
2036PRV_int_012504.9628Mm-hm.2505.3462
2038 2505.8905Mm-hm.2506.2597 
2039PRV_se0_ag3_f_012507.3721And hey,2508.2856
2041 2508.8232you can't take me too.2510.1249 
2043 2511.9804I think it's a little place down here called S- uh, Shiloh Farm Road [and]2515.9309 
2044PRV_int_012515.8267[Hm.]2516.0539
2045PRV_se0_ag3_f_012516.3001those places2517.2846
2046PRV_int_012517.5024Mm-hm.2517.7864
2047PRV_se0_ag3_f_012517.8621and it's gonna have the meaning2519.6513
2049 2520.0584to me2520.6170 
2051 2520.9037that these landmarks have when you come up into Princeville2523.8952 
2052PRV_int_012523.9094Yeah.2524.1792
2053PRV_se0_ag3_f_012524.3355and know what used to be here.2525.6797
2054PRV_int_012525.8596Mm-hm.2526.2268
2055PRV_se0_ag3_f_012526.1768Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, I can remember the little2528.2101
2056 2529.8290long2530.7615
2058 2531.2206one room building he had for a store,2533.5787 
2060 2533.7653Mr. /RD-NAME-3/, his father,2535.4645 
2061PRV_int_012535.4882Okay.2535.9284
2062PRV_se0_ag3_f_012535.9804and I was a little kid and used to go in there and buy candy out of the jars [and]2539.8125
2063PRV_int_012539.6327[Uh-huh.]2540.2054
2064PRV_se0_ag3_f_012540.3616little things like that. See people can't2541.9994
2066 2542.5911tell me about that.2543.5188 
2067PRV_int_012543.6371Yeah.2543.9448
2068PRV_se0_ag3_f_012544.1200Mm-hm.2544.4276
2070 2544.8706By taking me down the road further.2546.5746 
2071PRV_int_012546.6314Okay.2547.1176
2072PRV_se0_ag3_f_012547.3746Mm-mm.2547.7438
2073PRV_int_012548.2692Now you-2548.8893
2075 2549.0928you mentioned your grandmother,2550.7684 
2077 2551.1262do you remember a lot about your grandparents?2553.4550 
2078PRV_se0_ag3_f_012553.5686Oh yes, my grandmother raised me.2555.0029
2079PRV_int_012555.2064Okay.2555.6939
2080PRV_se0_ag3_f_012555.9780Mm-hm.2556.2572
2081PRV_int_012556.2809And2556.6812
2083 2557.2398um, what e- what did they do? What did, uh,2559.9331 
2085 2560.6999/your/ grandparents [/do/?]2561.5002 
2086PRV_se0_ag3_f_012561.3105[Well] my grandmother2562.5554
2087 2563.4055uh, she was just a common laborer out- she would do field work like,2567.3295
2089 2567.5472tobacco and cotton2568.9578 
2091 2569.7273because my mother,2570.8634 
2093 2571.1663uh, was a trained dietician2573.1875 
2094PRV_int_012573.2017Mm-hm.2573.4857
2095PRV_se0_ag3_f_012573.4620at the hospital2574.7353
2096 2575.2019and so my mother- my grandmother more or less babysat us.2578.1272
2097PRV_int_012578.1650Okay.2578.5816
2098PRV_se0_ag3_f_012578.9082And2579.3531
2100 2580.2478sometimes,2581.0903 
2102 2581.4433uh,2581.8693 
2104 2582.1249if my grandmother saw a need,2583.4598 
2106 2584.0183she would take us out of school for a day or two and take us to the cotton fields with her.2588.1107 
2107PRV_int_012588.1675Mm.2588.4279
2108PRV_se0_ag3_f_012589.8810And2590.3118
2110 2591.4715we knew all of her old friends and2594.2149 
2112 2595.3746we watch- well they watch us grow up as a matter of fact. My sister2598.9388 
2114 2599.4765and I'm- well my m- my sister, my brother, and I.2602.2076 
2115PRV_int_012602.4301Mm-hm.2602.7757
2116PRV_se0_ag3_f_012602.8798Cause my youngest sister she came along2605.0524
2118 2605.3297later2605.7841 
2120 2606.3663in the better years. [<laugh>]2608.1177 
2121PRV_int_012607.2562[Mkay.]2607.9615
2122PRV_se0_ag3_f_012608.6289But, um,2609.3058
2124 2610.9984I-2611.4386 
2126 2612.8018everything that I-2613.7398 
2128 2613.8449I really2614.6147 
2130 2615.6324can recall or2616.8442 
2132 2617.9403rules and things that I live by2619.9994 
2134 2620.3165are things that my grandmothers,2621.5614 
2136 2621.7886you know, taught me through the years.2623.5143 
2138 2623.9877Now my mother was there,2625.4787 
2140 2625.6680but she was that workaholic.2627.1827 
2141PRV_int_012627.4667Mm.2627.8312
2143 2628.8043What was your grandmother's name?2629.9167 
2144PRV_se0_ag3_f_012630.1486Her name was /RD-NAME-2/-2631.2846
2146 2631.5166/RD-NAME-2/.2632.3023 
2147PRV_int_012632.3875Okay.2632.7851
2148PRV_se0_ag3_f_012633.0265[Mm-hm.]2633.4762
2149PRV_int_012633.0786[And your mother's] name is?2634.3188
2150PRV_se0_ag3_f_012634.3803My mother's name is /RD-NAME-4/.2636.7356
2151PRV_int_012636.7450Okay.2637.2231
2152PRV_se0_ag3_f_012637.2231Mm-hm. And my name is /RD-NAME-1/.2638.9934
2153PRV_int_012639.1496Okay.2639.7365
2154PRV_se0_ag3_f_012639.7602Mm-hm.2640.1152
2155PRV_int_012640.8564Not /RD-NAME-3/?2641.5853
2156PRV_se0_ag3_f_012641.7415No, not [/RD-NAME-3/.]2642.7356
2157PRV_int_012642.3143[<laugh>]2642.7782
2158PRV_se0_ag3_f_012643.0480My name- I'll tell you who I'm named after.2645.0360
2160 2645.3579My name is /RD-NAME-8/2647.9309 
2162 2648.2575and I was named2649.3036 
2164 2649.5402after-2649.9757 
2166 2650.1650you can look this up- Senator /RD-NAME-4/'s daughter.2653.4386 
2167PRV_int_012653.5001Oh okay.2654.1439
2168PRV_se0_ag3_f_012654.5935<ts> Her name was /RD-NAME-7/.2656.5390
2169PRV_int_012656.6573Oh, okay.2657.2679
2170PRV_se0_ag3_f_012657.3531Mm-hm.2657.6655
2171PRV_int_012658.2694Wow.2658.5676
2172PRV_se0_ag3_f_012659.6043Yes and as I- <laugh>2660.5841
2173PRV_int_012660.9344Well I just- I remember you saying that2662.7899
2175 2663.0786the-2663.3746 
2177 2663.4594the trucks would come2664.6705 
2179 2664.8740and pick up2665.5001 
2181 2665.7131day laborers2666.5225 
2182PRV_se0_ag3_f_012666.4989Yes.2667.0101
2183PRV_int_012667.1521to go out,2668.0846
2185 2668.2692how did that work? Your grandmother used to do that?2670.3898 
2186PRV_se0_ag3_f_012670.3614<laugh> Yes, my grandmother used to do that.2672.3947
2187 2673.0196But, uh, her-2674.0041
2189 2674.3365well basically her duty was to2676.6075 
2191 2676.8942babysit us.2677.9687 
2192PRV_int_012677.9924Uh-huh.2678.2953
2194 2679.0811You can- Yeah.2679.7343 
2195PRV_se0_ag3_f_012679.7722Let me get this. This is probably my mother. (tape stops) I mean, he helped my grandmother and my mother raise me2684.1628
2196PRV_int_012684.1912Uh-huh.2684.5604
2197PRV_se0_ag3_f_012684.9249And my uncle, like I said, he had a2686.5106
2199 2686.8609short military career.2688.1389 
2201 2689.1404And2689.8078 
2203 2690.0397my- we-2690.5415 
2205 2691.4030my mother was a single parent.2693.0171 
2206PRV_int_012692.9508Mm-hm.2693.4336
2207PRV_se0_ag3_f_012693.5141But I'm proud to say she educated2695.6469
2209 2696.3474all four of her kids very well.2698.0704 
2210PRV_int_012698.4396Okay.2698.8325
2211PRV_se0_ag3_f_012698.9934Uh,2699.4715
2213 2699.8502my brother's an attorney in Greenville, North [Carolina.]2702.1628 
2214PRV_int_012702.0303[Okay.]2702.4847
2215PRV_se0_ag3_f_012703.0574And, uh, his wife is a dentist there.2705.0786
2216PRV_int_012705.3105Okay.2705.7413
2217PRV_se0_ag3_f_012705.8644And my sister up here,2707.2500
2219 2707.7179she's working on her,2708.9438 
2221 2710.0940uh,2710.5390 
2223 2711.2632degree now. [She doesn't] have but a few months.2713.4575 
2224PRV_int_012712.0186[Mm-hm.]2712.4067
2225 2713.6185[Okay.]2713.9261
2226PRV_se0_ag3_f_012713.7510[My] youngest sister has a degree from school, business school.2716.6005
2227PRV_int_012716.6668Okay.2717.0691
2228PRV_se0_ag3_f_012717.1875And she is working on, uh, her degree2719.6895
2230 2720.0161in computers now2721.1000 
2231PRV_int_012721.2184Okay.2721.6207
2232PRV_se0_ag3_f_012721.6349at the community college.2722.9555
2233PRV_int_012723.0455Okay.2723.5046
2234PRV_se0_ag3_f_012723.8265And I guess I'm2724.8252
2236 2725.5522b-2725.6658 
2238 2725.8409brain dead so I'm not doing anything right now.2728.4396 
2239PRV_int_012728.4633[<laugh>]2729.2632
2240PRV_se0_ag3_f_012729.0833[But] um,2729.6087
2241 2729.9306[nevertheless, I'm proud.] I have a son that has like,2732.7829
2242PRV_int_012729.9638[/inaudible/]2731.2500
2243PRV_se0_ag3_f_012733.3935uh, come September, eighteen years in the Air Force.2736.5933
2244PRV_int_012736.5696Uh-huh.2736.9341
2245PRV_se0_ag3_f_012737.2919I have a younger son that's, uh, pursuing2739.9662
2247 2740.6242a medical career,2742.1058 
2248PRV_int_012742.1294Wow.2742.4418
2249PRV_se0_ag3_f_012743.0788and, uh,2743.8362
2251 2744.4563my oldest son was killed, uh,2746.6242 
2253 2747.2916a few weeks after this- being discharged from the-2749.9240